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[1.12] Getting the Barrier Block

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hacker mann 2020-12-24 18:19:20

Amazing work. Barrier wither cages will be the ultimate flex

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blue lemon 2020-12-24 22:09:52

People will no longer be able to say "bedrockless wither cages are never reliable"

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Adam Řežábek 2021-01-08 11:36:27

also cool player cage for player zoo

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SalC1 2020-12-24 16:01:25

This is nuts.

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herbs 2020-12-24 19:07:29

As always with earthcomputer lmao

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gam ing 2020-12-24 21:42:17

2b2t is 1.12, imagine if somebody managed to do it???

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-25 17:12:47

Hey sal!
Also, on 2b2t there's no need as they already got it the boring way (tricking an admin to install a plugin).

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JimTheScientist 2020-12-26 16:46:58

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Brandinski 2020-12-27 21:27:28

@gam ing I think they have it since 2b2t got backdoored a while ago

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Ferbook3000 2021-01-01 03:41:05

@gam ing They already have tons of bedrock. Someone just took it out of creative and players with dupping machines did the rest.

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molten _cheese10 2021-01-06 12:33:02

@gam ing They patched chunk savestates on 2b2t

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AidenKing 2021-01-20 03:29:15

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AidenKing 2021-01-20 04:45:01

@JimTheScientist hhhhh

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AidenKing 2021-01-20 04:45:30

@JimTheScientist I like ur vids but HHHHHH

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JimTheScientist 2021-01-20 04:47:18

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AidenKing 2021-01-20 04:49:49

@JimTheScientist can we talk in this comments section lmao cause were both on

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AidenKing 2021-01-20 06:21:08

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purpleguypog 2021-01-21 14:58:48

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Adam Řežábek 2021-04-07 13:56:09

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AidenKing 2021-04-07 17:02:48

@Adam Řežábek what

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Adam Řežábek 2021-04-07 17:17:59

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AidenKing 2021-04-07 18:28:01

@Adam Řežábek oh i see HHHH

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abmi 2021-05-01 17:59:53

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Lol Nicht 2021-05-04 19:03:08

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idkman 2021-06-01 15:12:11

No is barrier

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SpeedyBoy27 2021-07-28 04:11:03

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Green_Jab 2020-12-24 07:00:23

very well put and clear video, I hope everyone else feels the same way and is able to understand what is going on.
now to get it in item form and then we can say that we have accomplished one of the biggest achievements in vanilla survival minecraft

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hobrin 2020-12-24 10:03:57 (edited 2020-12-24 10:05:17 )

wait how did we get the item again? Ooh wait yes I think it was the piston pushing thing, but then you would need a tile entity that also breaks when a piston pushes it, a sign

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-25 17:11:15

@hobrin piston pushing wouldn't work, because the barrier block is coded not to drop an item

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hobrin 2020-12-26 05:54:53

@Earthcomputer oh epic, then the most logical option is the tile entity sand, right?

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Arnout 2020-12-30 15:33:55

@Earthcomputer so if i get it correct, the same technique used for getting bedrock item wouldn't work.

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-30 17:59:47

@Arnout correct. We need the falling block method.

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Knarli 2022-02-20 15:19:57

@Earthcomputer and now you got the everything falls method to work, is the barrier item now possible?

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Panchohamster 2021-11-15 19:31:10

I came here just because of the newest ElRichMC's video where he uses this feature to his SurvivalSinglePlayer World, but I think I'm gonna stay because of the great content of this channel. Take my sub! :D

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CheaterCodes 2020-12-24 10:45:32

Very well compiled video! I love that you also showed a non-instant-tile-tick version for those who are too lazy to build that.
Also btw, did you try to obtain the item using the bedrock method yet?

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Matthias Verlinden 2020-12-24 12:04:32

Yeah I thought also it's maybe possible to get the barrier item with the same method as with the bedrock item

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CheaterCodes 2020-12-24 13:33:39

@Matthias Verlinden (It's not possible with the same method, it's just a running gag on PT :P)

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javi 2020-12-24 12:54:00

That was a really clear explanation! It is impressing that this could be achieved

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Redz 2020-12-25 14:34:14

Wonderful explanation video! It actually refreshed my memory on so many cool mechanics! GG on getting that barrier block too! Now go get that in item form ;)

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blue lemon 2020-12-25 17:35:34 (edited 2020-12-25 20:38:17 )

1 thing isnt clear for me : when the update suppresion happend and you get the stack overflow and the game stop updating blocks, what the game do instead ? Skip to the next tick ? Return to the main game loop ? What happend ?

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-25 17:43:59

An exception is thrown and the JVM jumps to the catch block. All throwables are caught in player actions (so the rest of the player action will be skipped) and in world generation (the rest of the chunk population will be skipped). Many other cases crash the server as the exception is left unhandled.
If you're unfamiliar with Java exception handling, here's an article explaining the basics: https://stackify.com/specify-handle-exceptions-java/

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Сергей Быков 2020-12-24 12:09:36

Congratulations! Prototech never ceases to amaze.

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Ultimateo 2020-12-28 04:52:01 (edited 2020-12-28 04:53:57 )

Wow. I'm at a loss for words. This is amazing.

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Gasper34 2021-11-16 02:18:40

Son unos genios, el barrier de Rich quedó nashe

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kiran clarke 2022-02-20 21:44:26

How would this work with the falling block swaps? would be cool (if difficult) to try...

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molten _cheese10 2020-12-24 21:33:56

This is amazing. Next is a way to get the item!

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Harshaan Singh 8530 2020-12-24 11:42:39

Hats off , keep up the great work

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Tjeerd de Bondt 2020-12-24 08:47:27

Next how to get creative mode in survival mode

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ReadyIce 2020-12-24 14:41:57

In older version you was able to press B, also with cheats off, to go in creatuve mode

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Watsu 2020-12-24 15:12:00

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Watsu 2020-12-24 15:12:23

ask ilmango he found a way

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Jackson Percy 2020-12-24 16:55:00

@Watsu Did he really? When was that?

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gam ing 2020-12-24 21:43:10

I know, in bedrock only, you can use some sort of exploits to hack creative mode. I do not know if it works on servers,

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Proxima 2021-04-06 18:35:18

Back than you could backdoor mc and use commands in survival. Command usage was creative only so basically through this you had been able also to change ur game mode to creative lol

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PentaSteve 2021-01-06 19:27:17

24:10 or a week, in my case when trying to figure out instant fall

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Yuri_01_ 2020-12-24 20:39:57

Easy to understand, thank you earth <3

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Not Applicable 2020-12-24 09:08:20

wonderfully elegant solution!

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JAY 2020-12-24 16:03:29 (edited 2020-12-24 16:03:48 )

Love your work :D

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Tobias Beek 2021-01-24 18:35:15

@ Earthcomputer Can you now use the same method for getting the bedrock item so you can also get the barrier block item?

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MintyCodes 2020-12-24 18:11:32

Great work!

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Alireza Codes! 2021-03-05 13:44:00

Wow I thought I was the only Java modder who does these dirty patches, looks like Mojang does it as well LOL

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Epteon 2020-12-24 08:49:58

You guys are insane!!! GG!

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Quade 2021-04-10 21:16:35

So not only can we get bedrock items but now we can get barrier blocks. It gets crazier every time 😂

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Elvar the Turtle 2021-01-09 02:16:13

Awesome work!

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elEd0 2020-12-25 00:27:41

Is there anything you cant do with update supression?

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Loc-Loc 2020-12-26 07:45:53

Just a theory could you do the same thing you do with bedrock and how you got the item for it I was talking with people on wavetech and blockder had the idea to turn it into a falling block then get it that way

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Yqe 2020-12-28 13:38:34

No, the only reason bedrock was obtainable as an item is because there is special code to be able to mine it with silk touch, but this does not exist for barriers (that I know of)

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potato4dawin 2020-12-24 20:26:09

Oh man, it is just crazy to think about the level of technical wizardry that can go into this.
Using Instant Tile Tick to Update Suppress the removal of a Barrier Block placed during population reset by Chunk Save States so that in the future you can potentially use Falling Block Swap to make a Barrier FallingBlockEntity to get the Barrier Block Item in Vanilla Survival Minecraft.

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CheaterCodes 2021-06-10 01:54:18

I've only thought about this recently, but technically you can do this without instant tile tick and without save states. Would just be much more painful.
And falling block... We're getting there :)

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Yqe 2022-03-20 11:52:37

@CheaterCodes Without savestates and instant tile tick? How exactly? Do you plan on pearling during a lag spike to both place a shulker and a floating comparator pointing into an update suppressor?

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zGamerX 2020-12-24 12:12:00

Amazing work man

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attila 2020-12-24 17:54:28

very cool , congratulations , next goal is the falling block :D

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JJB 2020-12-24 18:32:04

Actually Ray sort of did that really early on in his Prototech series. Episode 3 maybe?

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attila 2020-12-25 02:43:40

@JJB
I meant the falling block of the bedrock and then the portal in 1.12.2 ..

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Embuer 2020-12-24 08:54:44

Thats so cool!

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KitsuneGB1001 2021-02-04 05:56:45

Ok so this is basically just magic, right?

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JJB 2020-12-24 18:05:57

1,614th view! also, what software are you using to view the raw Minecraft code? I'm getting into Java coding, and I want to create my own client mods, and I'm trying to learn the ins and outs of MC code viewing and/or editing.

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-25 06:59:26

Intellij is my far the best

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Abhijith S 2020-12-24 09:13:06

Now just waiting for your's/Xcom's/coolman's video on getting every item

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Johnny Sun 2020-12-25 03:17:02

they just need command block, structure block, structure void, spawner, spawner minecart, command block minecart, ......

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Yqe 2020-12-28 13:37:16

@Johnny Sun Inb4 they downgrade to Beta 1.9 pre release 3 to get spawners

And did you know? Spawner minecarts don't actually exist as an item, only as an entity

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ben3847 2022-04-13 20:55:47

1:56 you ever managed to get it as an item, like you mentioned?

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naz 2020-12-25 08:40:31

It blew my mind. Like this is awesome

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Qcom 2020-12-24 12:37:21

This video has update suppression and YouTube compression of rails

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Douglas Yellow 2021-01-07 08:40:49

i wonder if the scicraft guys will be interested in getting their own barrier block

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b_yoshi 2021-09-11 17:01:38

its not really useful to them unlike bedrock so prob not

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Yavor 2020-12-24 10:18:21

That's insane

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ben3847 2021-02-23 19:05:22

block updates: exist
earth computer: we don‘t do that here

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Imputh maximuth 2021-02-06 20:38:12

is there a way to do this in 1.16 ??

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PF247 2021-05-06 21:27:28 (edited 2021-05-07 18:15:44 )

theoretically using the method used to get bedrock, you could get that item has a held thing?
i apologize if that's a dumb idea because i have 0 understanding of that bedrock obtaining method


edit: yeah i thought so i'm dumb and this won't work


aside from that incredible video!!!!! you guys amaze me every time!!!

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Earthcomputer 2021-05-07 17:33:12

I addressed this question at the very start of the first bedrock video

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Jonas Paladin 2020-12-24 09:01:48

Are observers the only thing that react to (observer updates) in .12?

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SRAZKVT 2020-12-24 09:10:15

i think sand also react to state updates

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Jonas Paladin 2020-12-24 09:15:47

@SRAZKVT not in .12, and for the record lots of things react to (observer updates) in newer versions.

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Incog 0 2020-12-24 09:42:25

You mean what blocks work as buds?

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-24 10:51:32 (edited 2020-12-24 10:53:25 )

Only observers react to observer updates (in newer versions too), which is a distinct concept from block updates, which pistons, sand, etc react to. Most of the time you don't notice because both normal block updates and the observer updates happen, but you can get one without the other. An interesting example is that the block update order of redstone dust is very complicated, but the observer update order is simply closest-first (notwithstanding branches)

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Jonas Paladin 2020-12-24 12:38:49

Uhm, since 1.13, they are used for quite a few things other than just triggering observers. Myren made a video on it "block updates in 1.13"

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Incog 0 2020-12-24 20:38:09

@Megaminx I get it, I was confused by their question

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Nooticus 2020-12-26 13:18:36

This is insane and I really don’t get it but gg guys!!

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Gabriel 2021-01-04 00:13:17

Gg

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Gabriel 2021-03-09 13:10:22

wouldn’t it be possible to pair this with falling block swap?

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CheaterCodes 2021-06-10 01:54:42

Yes, we only need to get that working first lol

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Gabriel 2021-12-28 01:14:31

@CheaterCodes clock is ticking \o/

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Gabriel 2022-01-30 01:14:19

@CheaterCodes guess what

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MunifTheGreat 2020-12-25 19:53:07

gosh this is epic

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Watercraft 2021-11-26 14:41:08

Just saw youtuber elrichmc do this in his minecraft survival world, so awesome

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K O 2020-12-28 17:52:48

Impossible...

I actually understood all of that...

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Joey zucchini 2020-12-24 14:26:58

Amazing.

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Bengineer8 2020-12-24 09:15:47

Amazing.

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Myren Eario 2020-12-24 12:26:21

Nice!

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Llew Vallis 2020-12-26 07:49:51

Wow nice!

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TFirst 2020-12-24 16:46:15

Well I can’t say I’m surprised lmao

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sahgd uaidwbib 2021-04-23 06:31:32

wait what how do you get instant tile tick in survival vanilla?

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CheaterCodes 2021-06-10 01:52:20

You update suppress a waterfall. I think there's a video linked in the description.

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Woo Six 2020-12-25 19:46:29

what the heck, next video will be about getting creative mode in survival

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Mango31 2020-12-24 09:10:33

Its is an glith with an 1.16 snaphot that have a barier block in the bastion.

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hobrin 2020-12-24 09:39:28 (edited 2020-12-24 09:47:22 )

ye finally we got the real java code! Way more readable! Also, as a mc hacked client programmer I was able to follow every word you said very well, and it was easy to understand.

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blue lemon 2020-12-24 09:09:04

Where you can find minecart code ?

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Incog 0 2020-12-24 09:41:38

In your minecraft download file

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Decencies Dev 2020-12-24 23:36:36

That IntelliJ theme is hurting my eyes

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ElWinzz 2020-12-27 09:14:15

ain no way dude, AINT NO WAY

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Alexander Lea 2020-12-31 03:46:49

This isn't that impressive, I could do this with a texture pack.

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-31 04:36:42

True, should have just faked the video tbh would have been way easier

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Alexander Lea 2020-12-31 14:34:46

@Earthcomputer it really would have

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Hi I am EJ 2022-03-07 00:15:57

21:01

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Corster8 2020-12-24 16:36:14

Cool

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Doctor Sploosh 2020-12-24 06:47:38

can you use this method to get end portal frames???

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zay_dog 2020-12-24 09:05:53

No, as the method in its current state only places the blocks, not breaking them. Coolmann does have a potential method of getting them using beacon beam multithreading to change the type of a gravity block., though

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Incog 0 2020-12-24 09:43:07

We haven't been able to get them since 1.2 I think

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CheaterCodes 2020-12-24 09:59:33

Lmao Sploosh you're such a troll. But technically yes, if you really wanted to, you can get the end portal block that way. But... Why xD

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Doctor Sploosh 2020-12-24 17:06:12

@zay_dog I know it, the comment was a joke

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R6Scrubs 2021-01-21 19:35:04

One thing that confused me is when describing update suppression you say that the game "runs out of memory" just from it having to process a few hundred block updates (which would only be a few hundred KB like you said). Obviously that tiny amount of memory usage is not going to make modern machines run out of memory and if a process actually runs out of memory it usually means the whole process terminates so the game wouldn't just carry on running.

I guess what you actually mean is its more like a stack overflow? From it recursively calling the same function over and over again (the one that updates neighbours)

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Earthcomputer 2021-01-22 12:47:14

It's a stack overflow, correct. Explaining these things to an audience of majority non-programmers is hard. "Running out of memory on the stack" is more correct but then I'd have to explain what "the stack" is, so I went for something along the lines of "running out of memory for things like this".

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Oskar 2021-01-27 20:56:57

Take my subscribe and get a better microphone, please

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Seikm 2020-12-24 09:05:56

yeah, just a new video from earthcomputer

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rover 2020-12-24 10:16:10

Mad lads

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a 2020-12-24 08:40:47

Nice

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pie man pie 2021-01-10 12:57:06

These peoples brains are mega big

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Super Hase 2020-12-25 16:56:23

merry Christmas :D :D :D

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minneelyyyy 2020-12-29 05:25:46

Nerd! <3

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univent 9449 2020-12-24 10:07:15

Oh nice

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gizo 2020-12-24 11:16:05

Ur mic is a little louf5

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Earthcomputer 2020-12-25 17:16:02

If you want better quality videos, I suggest you subscribe to Myren Eario

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Adam Řežábek 2021-01-08 11:41:38

@Earthcomputer is Myren known more for his mc skills/knowledge, or for his mic?

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Earthcomputer 2021-01-08 18:26:23

@Adam Řežábek Both

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Daniel Renfro 2020-12-24 06:49:26

When are you going to get the barrier item???

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THE PHANTOM 2021-11-16 21:01:17

rich?

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roger sota 2021-11-15 21:46:45

Elrich

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Alex Ballbach 2020-12-24 08:41:51

DID YOU TRY THE BEDROCK METHOD YET!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!?????!

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Lukas Staar 2020-12-24 08:53:49

Obviously doesnt work as silk touch doesnt let the barrier item drop

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CheaterCodes 2020-12-24 10:44:02

Omg the proto invasion xD

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Alex Ballbach 2020-12-24 08:40:57

first

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Onscreenproton 2020-12-24 09:08:13

not quite lmao

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Daniel Renfro 2020-12-24 16:37:15

Nah I was mister ball

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