Hey i love this theory but one problem. If you look back at s2 e25 during twilughts flash back Twilight had NO CUTIE MARK during her flash back with Cadence
@Sawtooth Waves yo, just to make you feel better, i have another theory for you. Because of the lack of cutie mark, Celestia eventually recalled her niece from being Twilight's foalsitter because she only seek those who deserve to be the fourth princess of Equestria and have tasked Cadance to foalsitted the destined child until their adultness. Because Twilight wasn't the destined child, Cadance and Shining never had a close relationship and thus, they never married. Hopefully this will help you😉
AJ Plays2021-06-04 16:26:10 (edited 2021-06-04 16:27:51 )
Wow I didn’t notice that your right but still what happened to Cadence and shining armor when Chrysalis took over? What were they doing and where were they at?
@Sawtooth Waves Wait, think about it. Cadence didn't have royal duties and her taking the responsibility of watching a foal was pure chance of meeting Shining Armor. If she didn't baby sit Twilight, then Chrysalis would be able to take over because her and Shining Armor never met
None of the main six have their cutemarks also they all got them because of the sonic rain boom sorry if i spell wrong just had a test killed too much brain cells
@Sawtooth Waves well, let's just say that Celestia wasn't even aware of a pony who can literally travel through time and change the whole history as she knows it. Because of Starlight's intervention, Celestia was forced to search for another filly that is capable enough to be the fourth princess. Just don't give up dude. You are the good side of the MLP community, and we couldn't bear to lose you, given how rotten and degenerate the community is right now.
@Sawtooth Waves Let’s fix the issue. Cadence foalsat Twilight before getting her cutie mark, yes. But after Twilight started attending Celestia’s school, she would have been away from home more often and Cadence would’ve foalsat her more. Princess Cadence and Shining Armor still would’ve known each other, but not well enough to fall in love and get married.
@OrkTv how I didn't notice such a glaring issue during the entire production of this, will forever evade me. if you need me I'll be off the grid, reclusing in the woods and living off the land
If this isn't featured in the next video, I'm done 😂
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Jay Stabs2021-06-04 17:04:25 (edited 2021-06-04 17:05:45 )
Yeah, aside from Adam’s observation, even without the foalsitting, Shining had always had a crush on Cadance and made that known at their school. Cadance found it charming and through a series of events she ends up developing at the very least an interest in him if not feelings for him also. She would just need a way to work around the rest of the student body to get to him since she’s always in the spotlight as a princess. She wouldn’t have necessarily needed the Twilight connection (this background is from the comics and I am WAY oversimplifying it).
@Sawtooth WavesWhat if Cadence, there Princess of Love and maybe daughter of a love potion bond, was foalsitting multiple foals to help her recover and Twilight was just one of them?
@Sawtooth Waves I have a theory that might help you and I'm going to bring up a question that has been bothering me for a while.
When Twilight recieves the letter from that Shining Armour and Cadence was getting married, it seemed like she didn't know that he was dating someone in the first place. If Twilight and Shining Armour were that close, how come Shining didn't tell Twilight that he was dating Cadence? Like did his parents even know he was dating? It brings up a question to as how LONG they've been together. If it was anything more than 1 year, wouldn't the family been told they were dating? It boggles my mind that the last memory of Cadence from Twilight was her as a foalsitter and nothing more "recent" if Shining did tell his family about her.
The only conclusions I can come up with are: 1. It was very confidential and they couldn't tell anyone and/or parents only (Cause Cadence is royalty and Shining is the Head of the Royal Guards which makes their positions very vulnerable and couldn't tell anyone until the Wedding (end of season 2 episodes) and this would mean they started dating in adulthood, not in their teenage years before their careers. Otherwise, surely the family would've known they were dating to some degree. 2. They met recently before the Wedding and suddenly got married. And may I point out the wedding preparation took place in a matter of days to prepare, unlike Frankie's and Matilda's wedding which doesn't seemed rushed (except for the wrong dates on the invitations incident XD )
So if we're going by the standard of they met recently prior to the wedding episode, then it brings up the question to as why, where and when. It could be because since Twilight was going to Magic school during the day, there was no need for a foulsitter that much. Cadence most likely became out-of-touch with the family in general, not just Shining Armour or Twilight. It makes sense that Cadence and Shining would bump into each other on occasion for her foulsitting job and therefore making Twilight the mutual connection. But If it was strictly for her job and creating small talk whenever Cadence would run into Shining, it does make sense if she fell out-of-touch to do other things when Cadence left her job as Twilight's foalsitter. Probably to become a full fledged princess and had more intense training. Years go by and Cadence was called to Canterlot to be told about the Crystal Empire and thus be on official business (which probably took days or even months to discuss and prepare considering the Crystal Empire is a delicate and complicated matter). Somewhere along the way Shining and Cadence saw each other and rekindled their relationship, and spent time after duty hours. Thus the wedding happened and then the Crystal Empire events happened - a very quick outcome but romance love can happen in this way.
And now that I think about it, regardless of which "duration of dating" outcome, if we go back to alternative outcome where Twilight didn't get her cutie mark, theres 3 options I can think of that might've happened in that timeline: 1. Cadence still would've left her job as Twilights foalsitter to become a full fledged princess and therefore becoming out-of-touch. While Twilight looks for some other means to get her cutie mark somewhere, somehow. 2. Twilight perhaps gave up on magic. I'm not saying she never got her cutie mark, but what if she did, but at doing something different or even ended up somewhere else 3. If she never gave up on magic, could she have trained somewhere far away to awaken herself and if those abilities had awoken, she probably couldn't control them properly without specific training at the time. And I believe without Celestia, her magic would've been out of control and had a very tragic outcome (if you get what I mean). We never get to see Twilight in any other timelines so there could be a double of Twilight somewhere (if not going for the tragic outcome) but she wouldn't have been in Canterlot or Ponyville at all, or even somewhere remotely near Canterlot that would've taken a few days to arrive for the Wedding to happen.
And now referring to Crystalis alternative outcome, is it safe to say that without Twilight's presence in Canterlot or Ponyville, she wouldn't have attended the wedding. And therefore Crystalis's plans succeeded and her invasion began.
@Sawtooth Waves oh my god! I can’t believe that this whole theory was ruined by a simple mistake. And I can tell how disappointed you are after working so hard on this. But hey, we can still turn this around. There are other things that you are right about. I appreciate your work even though there are some mistakes. Please don’t delete the channel. DON’T YOU DARE DELETE THE CHANNEL. I love it too much to let it go just like that.
@Sawtooth Waves the theroy is still posible. Becuse what if after failing the exam Twilight falls into a sad state. So much show Shinning returns home not knowing what happend, yells at Cadence thinking she made Twilight sad. But after he finds out the truth, Cadence is heartbroken and doesn't give him the chance to make amends.
@Sawtooth Waves I agree because in the flashback twilight didnt have her cutie mark but what if cadence and twilight met because someone else changed the timeline someone we havent considered?
Possible solution: (IDK if this has been brought up yet, but) My assumption was always that Cadance did foalsitting for a bunch of families, Twilight's included; it was only after Twilight got her cutie mark that Cadance saw the family more often outside of this, which is when she encountered Shining Armor (who wouldn't have been around when Cadance was foalsitting Twilight anyway, since then he could've just looked after her himself). That would explain Cadance foalsitting Twilight before she got her cutie mark and why Shining Armor would only hang out with her after the Rainboom.
Maybe it was an oversight on the animator's part. In one of the flashbacks we see Twilight in a royal bedroom unpacking her things. It looked like she was moving in. She must have been Celestia's student at that time.
@Sawtooth Waves Maybe like, Shining was in the guard training earlier and maybe was very promising as the leader so Cadence kinda saw that and decided to know the promising pony more, saw Twilight and decided to babysit them because maybe Cadence saw promising things from Twinkle Sprinkle over here-
Aww, don't you just hate when you find out a theory you felt so proud of had a flawed premise? I hate that. Now, in Sawtooth's honor, we must try to find a way to make his theory work!
So I haven't read through the entire thread here but your theory could still hold some weight, even up to there was still a royal wedding- but twilight had more of a role in the change than anticipated. Maybe not passing her entrance exam led to celest not teaching her, leading to her remaining just like moon dancer, so caught up in her studies and her want to prove herself again that she totally misses shinings wedding. I guess there are kinda limitless little alterations that could've led to the change, but its fun to speculate!
@Sawtooth Waves if Shining was part of the Royal Guard back then, then possibly. Celestia saw potential in Twilight because she saw the same potential in Shining. She could've also gotten word on Twilight's keen mind and magical aptitude from Cadence.
Whoo this will definitely be in his video I hope my comment is in your comment which is in his video that’s kind of greedy but whatever hope your comment is in the video
You're right she doesn't have her cutie mark I never realized that although I never really paid attention to it until now so if twilight had nothing to do with it then how did they meet it could have been that it was just destined to happen think about it if they never meant flurry heart would have never been born and even then if she was I don't think she would have been alicorn (because cadence is an alicorn because princess Celestia made her one and shining armor as an alicorn sister this explains flurry heart)
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Night Star2021-06-04 23:37:08 (edited 2021-06-04 23:43:32 )
True, BUT, Something ELSE could have happened that caused Chrysalis's plan to work, like say maybe Twilight NEVER LEFT Canterlot and therefore Shining Armour would be able to tell Twilight face to face that he was getting married to her foalsitter. She then would have rushed over to wherever Cadence lives to congratulate her, and she might have gotten there before Chrysalis did which would have gotten rid of the suspicions she had in the normal timeline, causing her to not spy on Cadence, and to also not pay as much attention to her weird behavior, which would stop Chrysalis from banishing her to the caves beneath Canterlot, keeping Twilight from discovering the real Cadence, keeping Cadence from escaping, causing Chrysalis to get married to Shining Armour, and the rest is pretty straight forward from here. Chrysalis reveals herself, she defeats Celestia, Twilight probably flees to try to find the real Cadence, Chrysalis takes over, Zecora gathers some ponies from Ponyville, they flee into the Everfree Forest and Chrysalis starts trying to find their hideout. This also might explain why Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie acted the way they did towards Twilight and Spike. When they fled with Zecora, they may have run into their world's Twilight. Twilight must have joined them, and fled with them. They must have thought Twilight was a changeling because they knew Twilight, but the Twilight from their world was still a unicorn, and the Twilight from our world is an alicorn, so they didn't recognize her. They thought that Spike was a changeling because in their world, Spike didn't exist, so they didn't know who he was, and in their world, if you didn't know who somebody was, they were probably a Changeling, and Spike was with the Twilight from our world, and since they already thought that our Twilight was a changeling, from their perspective, I think it was pretty safe for them to say that he was a changeling too.
Also, this is making me want to make some artwork for the different versions of the Mane Six, from each of Starlight's alternate timelines, except for the last one.
@Sawtooth Waves are you ever going to make a theory about zecora's home land,it's tree of harmony,the other three across the globe,and how the replacing of the equestrian one by the treehouse will affect the balence of the world?
@Sawtooth Waves Alas, confirmation bias is one of the perils of making theory videos (trust me, I know). I think the best way of getting around it is bringing in fact-checkers to examine it before public release, though it kinda looks like you already had the equivalent of that and it evidently didn't help. Ó.Ò
Don't worry, you can impliment corrections into the part-2 at least. brohoof and hugs
Your theory can still work just in a different way
The rainboom=destiny Cadence and shining=related to Twilight witch density was related to the rainboom No rainboom=no destiny Candice and shinings wedding=there destiny So no rainboom no wedding
@Sawtooth Waves perhaps Shinning Armour got close to Celestia first. He tells her that they need a sitter when he is a royal guard and Celestia recommended Cadence. Perhaps after Twilight got her cutie mark, Cadence taught her some spells and Twilight started to like her. Then Twilight always told Shinning how good Cadence is. After some time they fall in love?
So without Twilight telling Shinning how good Cadence is, they may never meet. Cuz I think Shinning will be too busy in his duties and won’t meet the Cadence Twilight loves after getting her cutie mark. (Idk is this brought up yet)
@Sawtooth Waves maybe without the main six a different villain got power, but The Queen was able to overpower that villain and take over. I mean what happened to the villains before and after each villain???
@Sawtooth Waves But wait. Who was staying where and in what time period? So Twilight was living with her parents before her cutie mark lead to her acceptance as Celestia's protege. Where was Shining Armor staying? Was he already away on military duties or maybe at training camp or something? If he were still at home, he wouldn't be in the royal guard, and would probably have plenty of free time to watch his little sister when his parents needed a babysitter. I think Shining had left for military training sometime before Twilights cutie mark appeared, hence why Cadence would be watching pre-cutie mark Twilight. Shining can't be around when he's away at boot camp or even stationed in the castle somewhere. He'd be sleeping where all the other guard ponies sleep. I'm thinking that Twilight would have had no business being anywhere near her brother until she was accepted to the magic school. And since the magic school is somewhere where the princess teaches, there are probably guards in charge of security, especially around the library. And since she was Celestia's direct pupil, I think she probably got to stay in the castle with Celestia so she could keep close eye on this new student of hers with amazing potential. Royal castle stay means you're bound to meet royalty, as well as guards. I also wonder if Celestia talked to Cadence about keeping a special eye on this new pupil around the castle. Shining would have been around as part of the guard and would have often dropped in on his sister from time to time when he could. Cadence is there when Shing drops by or vice versa and boom! They get to know each other personally through Twilight, though they probably don't start dating until Twilight gets her own place somewhere else in Canterlot, at least not openly. Does my idea make sense? Did I successfully salvage your theory? Or do you not have a clue as to what I just said? Please let me know!
Celestia had a vision of the future where Twilight become a Princess, therefore she was VIP before she even met Celestia. With future changed, past Celestia wouldn't get a vision, therefore no Cadance foal-sitter.
@Sawtooth Waves I was about to comment that but i saw the pinned comment lol but i think you Can figure it out if you can't figure it out NO ONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT
@Sawtooth Waves It means Cadance was Twilight's foal sitter way back. I have a theory remember the bad to good changeling thing? well if the mane 6 didn't come together it means the future events that took place such as changeling reformation wouldn't had happened as Starlight was bad so she didn't help Trixie didn't become nice as Starlight wasn't there Discord was still spreading chaos and thorax may have been nice but it was Starlight that suggested to share love otherwise Thorax would have been weakened. JUST A THEORY
Hmm think about this a different way. When Twilight said in the flashback that Cadence is a princess and she is just a "plain ol' unicorn" and Cadence said that Twilight is "anything BUT a plain old unicorn". You can see this in two ways. Either Cadence just means that Twilight is special to her personally OR she knew something! Think about it, isn't it a little bit fishy that Celestia let Cadence foalsit a random filly? If we learned something from the Rainboom story it is quite rare in mlp that anything happens just by mere chance. I think Celestia knew what would become of Twilight even though she didn't have her cutie mark yet and didn't know that it would look like the element of magic. Or maybe she did? I don't know, we shouldn't underestimate Celestia xD It's also quite interesting that the magic school even let Twilight take the test at all, because it's a school for gifted unicorns. Sure Twilight read a lot about magic, but the only thing we saw her doing was turning a page with her magic before she took the test and that's basic magic for young unicorns, no special talent there. Not until the test that is. So it was probably Celestia who inivited Twilight to take the test, because she knew something. When Twilight's cutie mark appeared she didn't seem surprised at all about how it looks. I mean she should be surprised that it looked so much like the element of magic, but she wasn't, because she always knew. Just my thinking ;)
@Sawtooth Waves please!!!! Don't delete your channel!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 mlp seasons are over already. I really want to watch your vids, at least to make me less sad about mlp ending. Theories make me wonder and more things to see about you. I can't find anyone else with such a bond of MLP like you, I guess. All I'm saying is, everypony who are watching this or subscribing your channel, never want for you to go. There are alot of mysteries in the show that I don't notice of and need you to solve it, maybe. MLP gone, you tooooooo!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 and I'm 15 years old using my dad's phone, I wanted to subscribe you, but I can't( don't need to bother about this information)
That's a good point. Cadence was Twilight's foal sitter back home before she went to the school of magic. That's why Twilight didn't recognize the name Cadence took on after connecting with Celestia.
@Sawtooth Waves Next week will be about how the first theory fell apart and the second theory (which you will need to develop) is better. Is preventing the sonic rainboom connected to preventing the Royal Wedding, and if so, how? Did Twilight becoming Celestia's personal student bring Shining Armor to the Royal Guard rather than becoming a sentry in a distant outpost? Would his friendship with the pony who became Celestia's adopted niece remain a fond memory if he never met her again? Or was Chrysalis after something else entirely. Her big complaint wasn't that her army lost Canterlot in Season 2, but that her entire hive was taken from her when they were converted to Friendship.
@Sawtooth Waves OK, maybe Celestia had her eye on Twilight and sent Cadance to "push her in the right direction" but when she failed the entrance exam Celestia gave up on her, pulling Cadance away and that left Shining Armor and Cadance as a "lost love" situation since I'm sure they're love took a while to grow. Idk 🤷♂️
OH SHOOT,hmmmmm,alright there's gotta be anotehr reason why they didn't fall in love,this is hard to think about,I wonder what made them fall in love with each other in the first place,maybe if we focus on maybe how they fell in love with each other we could figure it out
Edit:also to the person who pointed this out apparently Twilight is Twilughts now?(no offense I just wanna tell you there's a typo)
@RebeccX Imagine you are wonderfully talented at something. Someone younger than you admires you and thinks that they are not good enough. So of course you'll compliment. That's what Cadance did.
@Aarti Kumari Sure thing. That's why I said you can see her statement in 2 ways ;) Of course what you said is more likely, I was only trying to say that there could be a possibility that Cadence knew ;) Even if she didn't, what is very likely, Twilight was still special to her no matter what :)
@RebeccX yeah I mean there's no in show evidence that cadance can see the future but celestia can. Remember the crystal empire episode part 1 in that celestia said that Twilight is ready and that this IS a test! I don't remember exact line but yeah
It's ok sawtooth you've made mistakes before remember when you thought discord was starswirl also omg I did not see twilight did not have a cutie mark !!! This changes everything
@Sawtooth Waves in the alternet time line twilight wasnt there to save cadence from the crystal cave place in the beginning ..... yeah it was cadence overall but as you mentiond IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO twilight was able to free cadence and she was able to do the love thing
Maybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into ponies futures after thier birth
May someone please explain what’s going on here, because of the details being all over the place I’m having a hard time to understand of what’s going on
@Sawtooth Waves but remember? the wedding wasn’t chrysalis’s only attempt to rule. in to where and back again she was successful until starlight came and without the mane six starlight wouldn’t have been there to stop chrysalis
but starlight still did a effect of their relationship though like twilight said " not only your ruining our friendship your ruining others too " little guess cadence and shinning armor , celestia and luna friendship and many others even when she didnt have her cutie mark when cadence foal sit her the rainboom did brought everyone together
Yes so the original prinses kadens should still be traped in the dungen because of Twilight's gut chrisalis sent her into the dungen to so easily esceped
Hmm do you realize the sonic rainboom is important think about it ONE PONY HELP 5 PONIES THATS IMPOSIBLE right i think Rainbow dash ment to become an you know A Alicorn those questions in my mind never have an answer🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes, so the real prinses cadens is still traped in the dungen remember Twilight saved cadens can you please make a video about the proper theatre please
And there’s something else, if you look in the comics of MLP, Shining Amour actually tells the story of how they met, Shining and Cadence met in high school.
Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking @Adam Wood Studios. Twilight had Cadence as a foalsitter before the entrance exam because she didn’t have her mark when she started being foalsat. That means that since she got her mark during the entrance exam, Cadence and Shining should’ve already known each other beforehand.
@Sawtooth Waves there was a error too, twilight was able to use magic before getting her cutiemark (when her memories about cadence and her childhood) but in the Ep where she got her cutiemark, she wasn't even able to turn a page
yes but they would have not the same love for an example well everything would change twillight would be in a boring libary all the time so what did shining and cadence do in that time without the rainboom we dont know
My idea for how Cadence became Twilight's foalsitter: Shining Armor's uncle/Twilight Velvet's brother was a royal guard that served around the time Cadance became a princess, possibly as her personal security detail.
He let it slip that his sister needed someone to foalsit for her filly, and Cadance, not being given many duties yet in her early years as a princess, volunteered to take care of the little Twilight.
She took a liking to foalsitting, so when Twilight Velvet mentioned that some of the other parents at Twilight's school also needed someone to sit in for their foals, she was eager to help them too.
That's also how Cadance met her bridesmaids/Twilight's old Canterlot friends – all of them were ponies that she was formerly foalsitting for.
Actually, nevermind. Shining Armor wouldn't just say "my favorite uncle" if he knew that Cadence knew him. Still, I like the idea of Cadance foalsitting for Twilight's Canterlot friends as well, and that this is why they ended up her bridesmaids.
I’m just gonna guess cadence foal sitting was a day job for humility from celestia but was called from her job for a bit for princess stuff then when twilight became the protege she needed a proper sitter for when celestia was off in another kingdom or just generally busy and couldn’t take twilight so her old foalsitter would work just fine and then cadence meets shining boom!! Theory saved just a little shuffled
I think that Cadence used to foalsit Twilight before she got her cutie mark , she probably advised her parents to join her in princess celestia's school and after she got her cutie mark (twilight) cadence probably started going to her house more often to teach her how to make right use of her magic and maybe thats how Cadence and Shining armor met (this is my theory)😃
@Sawtooth Waves So this may be a bit late but (almost a year). I think you missed another key piece of info though (besides Twilight not having a cutie mark in the flashbacks), she ran with her friends to try and get the elements because of Celestia's instuctions, she may not have ran if she didn't have a reason to (elements), besides that in this timeline Twilight most likely isn't as close with Celestia. So she would have been captured when Cadance and Celestia were, because she stayed and fought. Or since she was in Canterlot when Crystalis impersonated Cadance, Crystalis put her under the same spell as Shining Armour since she also put the bridesmaids under her spell.
@Sawtooth Waves ‘sawtooth’s life force leaves the chat’ exactly sooo… shinie and cadie would still have interacted casually and cadie is celestia’s “niece” so twilie and cadie would have been forced to act professionally around the school
I know this is over 1 year old, but if you think aborto it, Twilight only could suspect of Chrysalis because she was invited BEFORE the wedding happened. But why was she invited before the wedding in the first place? Well, Twilight was invited to take care of the preparations ALONG with her friends, whose especial talents would help a lot on the preparations. Without the Mane 6 together, Twilight would only be invited to the actual day of the wedding, just like her parents, not leaving her enough time to investigate “Cadance”’s odd behavior, leading to Chrysalis’ plan to succeed anyways.
Sawtooth is nonbinary? Cool I used to be nonbinary, then I became fully trans lol. I’m glad you feel comfortable enough with your audience to tell us! Good look ❤️
@Blaize Gottman because gender is a spectrum. The most common chromosomes are XX and XY however, some people have chromosomes in a different order or a different number, this leads to intersex people. People with different genitals. Some nonbinary people have regular chromosomes and view them-self as a different gender, I was nonbinary as I was transitioning from female to male. But some people are nonbinary permanently.
It’s hard to explain to a cisgender person, but some people feel wrong in their birth body, making them transgender.
@Blaize Gottman think of it this way. Most people are right-handed, but left-handed people also exist. Now replace right-handed with cis (identifying as the gender you were assigned at birth), and left-handed with any other gender identity. If someone is trans, they're basically being forced to grow up as a gender they don't identify as, similar to how only a couple decades ago left-handed children were still forced to do things with their right hand. Since most of the world population is right-handed, left-handed people tend to fly under the radar at first. In this analogy, cis people would be right-handed, trans people would be left-handed, non-binary people wouldn't have a preference, and genderfluid (male one moment, female the next) people would be ambidextrous.
@Jenkins Uh, no? Non-binary and trans mean pretty much two opposite things. Non-binary means outside of male or female, trans is "transitioning" from one to the other. Trans people identify as man or woman, so within the binary.
@Cielnova No, trans is literally short for "transitioning". Trans is not an umbrella term, and it's incredibly disrespectful to use it as such. Trans people go through a LOT to achieve what they feel is their true gender identity. "Non-binary" is a term by people who think being female or male is linked to stereotypes and don't have dysphoria. Also, intersex has NOTHING to do with trans and it's weird somebody here brought that up.
@Sakisasvictorianmask according to merriam Webster
Definition of transgender
: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth
Also, many nonbinary people experience dysphoria. I personally tried socially transitioning to female and still felt dysphoric, when i started to go by nonbinary that feeling lessened to the point that i rarely feel dysphoric anymore.
@Moadot720 and you are clearly very young, gender does not equal what you look or sound like. It’s what you feel like. They deserve respect and if you are not going to give them that you should probably leave the channel
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i have another question for you. How exactly does non-binary be included into the LGBTQ? Isn't LGBTQ or sexual orientation referred to those who do it physically? Non-binary (the way i see it) is connected to the mind of the person and how they identified themselves. Therefore, it is psycological, not physical.
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer how? I search for it online, and it says that non-binary is not the same with transgender. Since transgender means unsure of your birth gender and decided to change it completely while non-binary means a person doesn't have or doesn't want to be identified as one gender or another, no matter what gender they were born with.
@Blaize Gottman Correct, everyone has a gender, but some people don't think gender applies to them (no matter what people around them say) because it's an entirely emotionally based self-diagnosis, and you're right, it doesn't make much sense at all, but then it also deeply describes how lost our society is when it feels the need to question themselves. It's a deep rooted sign of disbelief in themselves.
@Iris Huisman Normal people don't identify, they merely don't refute who they are. Saying you identify as (insert blank) is just a form of denial of the obvious, otherwise, you wouldn't feel the need to announce your identity. The exception to this rule is online because nobody can see your face, behavior, and body language.
Your analogy is only right in that people at one point thought they could correct left-handed behavior, but that analogy doesn't touch on identity at all, and it's always obvious when someone is left-handed, but not when someone is trans, (I get the point of your analogy though), you're trying to say that people opposing transgenderism is the same as people opposing left-handed people at one time because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.
Your analogy has holes in it, and it's my hope that you can understand that by having them pointed out to you that you can better understand how deep conversation like this goes, and thus form healthy dialogue.
The subject of identity is a very deep one in this day in age because so many people are suffering deeply because questions they asked were not answered for them (dare I say) that if people had such questions answered well, this identity crisis this generation is feeling would not be happening. This is me expressing my belief in how much I believe how deep this issue goes.
@Hiccy69 the definition of transgender is someone who does not identify as their birth gender, sawtooth does not identify as their birth gender being nonbinary
@Amber Slahlize transgenderism isn’t a problem. If you think it is you should go back to the early 2000s and leave the channel. You should probably mix in with your own crowd of corrupt discord users and 60 percent of redditors
@Sakisasvictorianmask trans means not identifying with your birth gender, and non-binary folks also transition, not always, but some of them do get top sugery, or take hormones! Quote from the definition of Oxford Languages: Trans: "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex." It can also either be short for Transgender, which is why we say "trans folk" or "trans people" because they are transgender, and saying "transitioning people" would be weird haha Also quote from transequality.org : "Transgender people are people whose gender identity is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth. “Trans” is often used as shorthand for transgender. When we're born, a doctor usually says that we're male or female based on what our bodies look like." Hope this helps ^^
@Amber Slahlize one, I didn't come up with that analogy, someone else (who I'm pretty sure was actually trans) did. It's just a simple analogy to explain to someone who doesn't quite understand what it means in terms that they'll more easily understand. I once heard the analogy 'straight people are standing on one leg, gay people are standing on the other leg, bisexual people are standing on both legs, pansexual people are lying on the floor, and asexual people are levitating.' Also an oversimplified analogy, but effective to explain to people what the difference is. Two, of course the analogy doesn't touch on identity, it's an analogy. I'm loosely comparing it to something else that has a somewhat similar feeling in order to help an uninformed person understand. If I were to go deeper into the subject of identity, it would become more complicated and thus harder to understand. Three, you're clearly uninformed about what being transgender really is. You said '-because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.' First off, 'transgenderism' isn't even a real word, or if it is it's never used by actual trans people, the correct term in this context is 'gender dysphoria', and secondly, your point holds no ground. Of course there's no evidence for gender dysphoria being present at birth, because babies that young don't have a concept of gender yet. Gender is literally a social construct, and is forced upon people from a very young age. Very young kids only really start to realize that kids of the opposite sex are different from them when they're told they are. If you were to put a bunch of androgynously dressed kids of both sexes with similar toys together and just told them to play nice and nothing about what sex/gender the other kids are, they won't treat any of the other kids differently purely based on what's in their pants. Gender dysphoria only starts to become present when kids realize that kids of the other sex are treated differently than kids of their own sex, and their brain starts telling them that they're supposed to be treated like the other sex. There was even a study done at some point that proved that trans people's brains are more similar to the general brains of the gender they identify as, rather than the gender they were assigned at birth. So yes, while technically gender dysphoria doesn't show up until later on in life, the only reason it shows up at all is because the child is treated as a different gender than their brain thinks they are. Four, you saying that wanting to identify as something is just 'denying the obvious' clearly shows that you don't know how all of this works. Speaking as a friend of a trans person, I can tell you right now that being clear in what you want to identify as can be very helpful in calming dysphoria. My friend is a recently out trans girl, but still has a pretty masculine look because she lived 17 years of her life as a boy. If people (irl too, mind you) were to address her as a guy, obviously she'd want to correct them. Trans people obviously don't go around shouting 'I'M (insert gender identity here)!', because nobody does that. They only make it clear what their gender identity is when they're either just coming out or answering/correcting someone.
Honestly, I could go on, but I'm tired and my eyes are now unfocusing on their own, so I'm gonna stop it here. I feel like you need to do some more research before you start trying to correct people. And one more time, it was a simplified analogy, not a 100% accurate explanation.
@Iris Huisman Can you put spaces between your paragraphs? Also, I'm reading a wall of nothing.
You don't know what anything is of anything, that's all I can say right now.
You've been lied to about what identity is, I strongly suggest you introduce more critical thinking on this subject - too much of it I see has relied on the word of others, rather than relying on the truth.
Like children not born with an identity? And identity is a social construct? Who told you that? You have no ground to assert such a notion. Not knowing what it means to be a man or woman doesn't mean that they aren't a man or woman - they will behave as man and women even before their brains are fully developed (because gender isn't their brain), so I'm guessing you never babysat children, if you leave them to their own devices, some of them will start to discover that one kid has something different from the other, but more then that, but more then that, male babies will act like males, and female babies will act like females. Gender isn't something they learned (it's who they are). The fact of gender dysphoria should be what makes you question the notion of gender is a social construct, because of how nobody taught them what gender dysphoria is, much less what it means to be who you are.
So in short, yes, transgenderism is a real word, just like transgender is also a real word, they were to different things, but are ultimately referring to the same thing, only transgenderism is more specific to the ideology of how to solve gender dysphoria, and to differ from the definition of sex and gender, it does that so that it can oppose reality in every way possible, and that's why we've got trans men in female sports now, beating all the natural born women, while nobody lifts a finger to it.
You would be hard pressed to find someone who could admit that transitioning does not cure their dysphoria, it only allows them to cope with their dysphoria. How do I know? Because if they reverted back, the dysphoria would come back, ergo, they are not really being cured.
This is transgenderism, and it's an ideology, a belief system, you don't even know that it's a belief system.
As for what is obvious, you're setting up a perfect example of what I mean by "noticing the obvious", people inherently know what men and women look like, so if your friend has to correct them, in reality, they are being contradicted, not corrected, because what they are being told, is that they can't trust their eyes. And that's the heart of transgenderism, the belief that you can't trust your own eyes. You might as well admit, this is an entirely emotionally based disfunction. If they knew what it meant to be the gender they were assigned at birth, they might feel more comfortable in their own skin. And that's why I feel pity for the majority of them.
And I have been plenty educated on the matter sweety, that's why I'm here differing on so much from what you're saying. I imagine it makes you feel very uncomfortable, but if that's what it takes to make people see the truth, (even the uncomfortable truth), I'm going to get dirty and fight for their souls, but you know that old saying, you can take a donkey to water, but you can't make them drink.
So to if nobody wants to help themselves, I'm not going to try and force them.
@Amber Slahlize I did put spaces, but apparently my tablet fucked that up. Look, if I had the energy to argue right now, I would, but I can already tell you're set in your beliefs and I am not in the mood to get worked up over this. I would like to point out two things though. One, you mixed up gender and identity, which are two different things. I said that gender is a social construct (which I literally heard from a scientist btw), not identity. Two, of course kids are gonna realize that things are different eventually. They're gonna realize that some of them have different genitals. Maybe some of them will realize that one kid has a behavioral abnormality that will later be diagnosed as autism or adhd. Maybe they'll see eachother's birthmarks. Maybe one of them has some trouble with some toys because they're left-handed. What I meant is that young kids generally don't care what gender someone is, and the only reason they'll most likely eventually end up segregating is both because of the fact that parents don't seem to realize that two people of the opposite sex can also be just friends and thus they'll probably start feeling awkward and stop hanging out with the opposite sex, and the fact that people that are more similar to eachother are in most cases more likely to get along. An autistic kid will probably have less issues hanging out with other autistic kids than neurotypical ones. Kids that like the same football team are more likely to get along than kids who like opposing teams. Of course there is such a thing as opposites attract, but that tends to happen later on in life.
@Iris Huisman I mix up gender and identity, because they are the same things.
If they were not, transgenders would not be saying "I identify as..."
Ergo, "gender is a social construct" is really "identity is a social construct".
As for the scientist, who is he to make such a claim? You are allowed to criticize scientists, (it's wouldn't be science if you didn't).
"young kids generally don't care what gender someone is"
You've never heard kids say "ew boys" or "ew girls"? How young are these kids that you're describing?
"parents don't seem to realize..."
The reason children interact with each other the way they do, isn't because of the parents, like nobody told me to like girl toys, or boy toys. I liked both, but I generally enjoyed my girl toys a little more. My brother was the exact opposite, nobody told him that he had to play separate from his little sister, he just developed this "ew girls" thing on his own.
He didn't like me playing with his toys, and my parents who never encouraged it let him do that. In other words, I was behaving feminine without any involvement, and my brother was acting masculine, also without any involvement. This is what people don't realize about gender, it's there, already being expressed through behavior. Dare I say, I see the contradiction even from someone who passes, they and their friends don't even realize it. Like there is a trans woman who thinks shes a guy, and I can still see her behaving feminine, even after all the hormones and surgery.
As for kids liking the same things, I don't see the point behind this.
But watch this video sometime, this is a woman who has dealt with real transgenders for a long time, she is also left-leaning so you'll feel more comfortable hearing what she has to say about transgenderism, she is very polite and kind, and she feels for the children who are suffering with their identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbxIFC0Q2o
This wont be confirmation bias, and yet it wont be differing from many things you already believe.
OH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT,interesting fact to know that Sawtooth is non binary,for the whole time I've been referring them as he,his,him pronounces I am so sorry
@Taku this is a problem I see often on LGBT channels. People watch their videos and shit but then when someone points out the fact they are LGBT the “hard man omega chads” in the comments are saying “ew”
If you have a problem then why are you staying here? Fuck off if you don’t like the person making the content.
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I have a question, so if your born a gender arent you technically just told that like your told a girl or boy doesnt mean you actually are?idk if I'm confusing I'm just a kid sorry
@Vanessa you are born a sex. This sex is either male female or other (intersex) your gender is how you feel in your brain. Your gender can be what you want it to be and can change accordingly
@Joe Oldenburg oh also can I just say that you clearly have no idea what you are on about? Nonbinary is literally a gender lol. Agender is when somebody has no gender.
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer ohhhh that's fair :) they're one of my favourite youtubers and I've watched them for years. I just missed May-Now so I'm rewatching it all :)
And being the princess of friendship makes it hard for twilight and her friends to spend some quality time with each other. Because she is princess there are many things that she has to do Wich she sometimes rather not to.
@Blaize Gottman Maybe you’re thinking of sex vs gender? Sex is usually the body you’re born in, and the chromosomes you’re born with, making you male or female (and sometimes intersex). However, Gender, which has nothing to do with the sex you’re born as, is how you internally perceive yourself and want to be perceived. You can be born with female or male chromosomes, but sometimes that really has no affect on what gender you may decide you identify as. (aka girl, boy, neither, and many other identities). As an example, you can be assigned female at birth, but realize during puberty that you’re a boy. Most people get surgeries and take hormones to change their body to physically match that of the other sex. To me, the most interesting part is that studies have shown the brains of trans people are physically identical to the brains of the gender they identify as rather than the brains of the sex they were assigned at birth. I hope that makes sense! if you’ve never heard of this stuff it can be admittedly pretty confusing in the beginning!
@Blaize Gottman well it's a lack of gender. Don't make the mistake of thinking it's the same as Non-binary binary! Non-binary is when you don't fit into the binary gender. It's an umbrella term and an identity in of it itself.
@Blaize Gottman Correct, though it would be more respectful to erase the "anymore" when you talk to an genderless person. I understand why you said! I'm not mad btw! I just want to inform you.
@Blaize Gottman Well everyone’s different and also the way people dress doesn’t have to be the same as their gender it’s just what they feel comfortable wearing :)
@Blaize Gottman being genderfluid means feeling like a woman one moment, a man the next, and in some cases neither. Most people identify as just one gender their entire life, while genderfluid people tend to shift around
I wanna figure out why all the other villains were able to take over their timelines, and how other villains didnt interfere. For example, Sombra took over the first timeline, why didnt chrysalis take advantage of this and try to join in? Why didnt discord snap his fingers and zap away chrysalis in her timeline? How did all the other villains handle the others. Discord was bound to find a way out during all the chaos, sombra was bound to retake his empire in chrysalis's timeline, so many villains paths should've intertwined and Im sure thats what happened in the last destroyed timeline twilight ended up at where there was nothing there but what about the others?
@Sawtooth Waves Nice theory man! It`s also possible that as more and more alternate timelines were created, the multiverse and reality themselves started to weaken. Perhaps that last timeline had self destructed. Perhaps the reality bending alternated the timelines on its own. Still, this is all speculation, I will leave the theorizing to you.
@Sawtooth Waves wanna know what I think? It could be that if Twilight stayed a little longer in those time lines we could see two villains clash. But she was in a hurry. That’s why we didn’t get to see two of the villains fight. And the last time line could be when all the villains clashed together and the constant fighting destroyed Equestria. Or it could be the dragons which I find more likely since everything was covered in ashes for miles which could be caused by the fire breathe of the dragons.
I think that the last timeline, is where EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN, from the beginning of the show, to the episodes before Shadow Play parts 1&2, that the Mane Six, Shining Armour & Cadence, The Royal Sisters, or somepony else dealt with, banished, or otherwise got rid of, all came back at the same time and the resulting fight ended up either destroying Equestria and the villains ending up dead, or a HUGE magic blast that resulted in the destruction of both Equestria, AND the villains!
@Night Star or they all appeared at the same time and fought each other to rule Equestria. And the constant fighting destroyed Equestria. So there was no point fighting since Equestria was destroyed so they stopped fighting and went their separate ways.
I have a theory that specific villains winning due to different actions Starlight took wasn't random. Timeline 1 was the basic 'no rainboom'. Somehow, NMM got defeated (reforming spell?), Discord doesn't get freed during the field trip somehow as a result of the NMM events, and Chrys's alternative plan fails. But without Twilight and Spike being exactly where they are, Sombra reaches the Crystal Heart before Cadance and revves himself fully, leading to the war.
Timeline 2 is caused by Starlight giving a lecture about bullying/equality. These three ponies carrying these ideas could lead the wrong people to be too trusting at the wrong moment, letting Chrys's alternative plan succeed
Timeline 3: The ponies watch the Magic Fight instead of racing. Due to this exposure to magical might early on, RAINBOW DASH SWITCHES SIDES during Nightmare Moon's return. With a greater military might, Nightmare Moon's Equestria defeats Chrysalis AND Sombra
Timeline 4: Dash got tripped. Might still have performed the Rainboom but lost the race. This somehow results in a version of events where everything is the same as the show but Dash doesn't receive the Wonderbolt pin in rainbow falls. No key, no opening of the box, Tirek wins.
Timeline 5: Dash got hit with Twilight's spell. Dash now holds a grudge against Magic/Unicorns. In Canterlot for a Wonderbolt event of some sort (the Gala?) she gets heated and frees Discord early.
Timeline 6: Fluttershy wins the race. Fluttershy becomes a more confident flyer, lives a healthier lifestyle, Dash gets the last cup of cider in Season 2 instead of Fluttershy. Dash doesn't kick up a stink about there not being enough. No Cider-making competition. Flim and Flam get their hooves into the market with a much more legitimate-looking angle and actually get successful in Ponyville instead of Las Pegasus. Instead of turning to the hotel/scamming business, they stick to industry, and capitalism destroys Equestria
Timeline 7: Dash actually injured/dead. The Dragon in Dragonshy isn't moved and Equestria is covered in ash, just like Celestia warned.
@Claire Leibel But Tirek could've beaten Nightmare moon and Sombra could've beaten her as well. It took both sisters to defeat sombra so I imagine he could've beaten her relatively easily alone. That being said something had to happen
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Blaze The Cat2021-06-04 16:35:01 (edited 2021-06-04 16:38:41 )
Makes sense that Saw is NB. Their a changeling. Their species can be all the genders.
Edit: congrats on coming out as non binary! I looooooove your vids
@Amber Slahlize what they were probably trying to say is that changelings can literally change into anything and anyone. they can change into the form of a mare, stallion, neither or anything in between. hippogriffs can only turn into seaponies and vice versa (and that's only with a special artifact). as a changeling it's easier to "transition," or fit into a form you're most comfortable with. does that make sense? ^^'
@Bright New Future Changelings only disguise themselves in order to trick their prey into giving them love, otherwise the queen was truly Cadence in A Canterlot Wedding. There might be a different purpose to it now that they have reformed, but that doesn't change how their powers work.
It's ridiculous to assume changelings can do something without some kind of proof first.
@My An Nguyen Lol, I personally never had that confusion, I believe they're girly enough but also strong and have characteristics generally attributed to males. Rainbow Dash is my favourite character, I could go on and on about that, but not really relevant to your reply.
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My An Nguyen2022-07-17 09:28:03 (edited 2022-07-17 09:30:31 )
@Mahek Khan I think it's because their voice actress has kind of like a higher pitch masculine voice that's also raspy
Can you please make a theory about the color of the unicorn magic? Maybe siblings have the same color. Twighlight and Shining Armor for example have the same color. And Flim and Flam too. But why not Celestia and Luna? Maybe the color has something to do with the cutie marks. When Starlight switched Luna's and Celestia's cutie marks, the color of their magic got switched too...
I think its more just destiny-cutiemark magic sort of thing. Flim and Flam were destined together, Twilight and Shining had destinies regarding Equestria, and Celestia has a destiny to rule as the sun pony while luna is of the moon
I had a theory about this too. Examples: Cadance's color: Cyan. why? the crystal heart's color. Twi's: Mangenta. I'm pretty sure that before she met her friends, her magic was light purple, like her coat, but when she met the other 5, it turned the color of her element of harmony. Flurry Heart: Yellow. In the windows in the future episode, she has yellow magic. like sawtooth once said, if cadance is love, flurry is light. light is usually artistically shown as yellow. Rarity: Cyan. Her cutie mark is cyan.
@skylar sukitan ! ☆ Oh, it's just based on observation. I noticed that Rarity's magic is the same color as her eyes, Twilight's is the same as the magenta streaks in her mane, and Sunset's magic used to be the same as her eyes, but after Starlight was introduced, it was changed to match the red in her hair.
Yeah, except for some rare animation mistakes, the magic color has virtually always been a color in their cutiemark. Gives us a sneak peak into baby ponies's cutie mark colors!! So if Big Mac had magic, it would be green, and if AJ had magic, it would probably be red
Personally, I think the colour can be controlled by the unicorn itself. That’s why Twilight didn’t suspect Cadence clone’s magic colour change in the Season 2 finale. And why Sunset has her magic colour changed from turquoise to red.
And maybe some siblings have the same colour because they want to have the same colours
I think the that depends on their eye colour, u see twilight has pinkish eyes and so is her magic colour, same about rarity it is blue and Luna dark blue n so on
The color of one's magic is usually either their eye color or their cutie mark's color. On occasion we have a few ponies whose magic isn't either color, but it's uncommon.
I’m sure it has to do with their cutie marks, but then there’s the case of Sweetie Belle. Her cutie mark is red, purple, and pink but her magic is green.
@Autumn Rose Yes! I've been looking for you I love the cutiemark and matching their destiny theory but Sweetie Belle jus throws that theory out the window
@CozyFlurry Well uh- I need to re-watch it, but I think that Twi’s magic color was purple in the first few scenes in the pilot episode- Still need to check tho, lol-
My theory is if your cutie mark has something to do with your magic, your magic color will be the same as your cutie mark. Shining Armour has the same purple star as twilight does, that's why their magic colors are the same. They're both magically gifted. For the twins, I'm pretty sure their eyes are the same color as their magic. They seem to do anything an average unicorn does. I could be wrong but it's something I thought of. One of the ponies I could see this not working with is Luna, who is magically excellent, but her magic is the same color as her eyes.
As usual Sawtooth you came up with a good theory to a very good question, but of course lots of other things would've never happened had Cadence and Shining Armor had never met like they would've never defeated Sombra and saved the Crystal Empire and of course Flurry Heart would've never been born either.
This makes total sense because since I would imagine that Cadence was still living with Celestia at the time, if that was the case, then Celestia would have Cadence to look after Twilight when she wasn't studying for experiments or stuff for class, and then Cadence and Shining would meet, become friends and then fall in love!
sawtooth nonbinary? makes perfect sense, having a changeling oc is very Gender. you are awesome please continue to be awesome! (also the nb pride flag is so pretty woahg)
Crystal Bloom I think what they mean is that if the rainboom didn’t happen, twilight wouldn’t get her cutie mark then (later). It makes sense since when the rainboom happened, twilight got that magic and got her cutie mark the exact same time.
Ye! Also Im not sure if you know, but Sawtooth is non binary and goes by they/them pronouns, not he/him. In the future please use the correct pronouns when referring to them
@Charlotte Cherrington 1: the background of their pfp is the non binary flag 2: if you go to their channel and to the About tab you’ll see they say they are non binary with they/them pronouns
Congrats for coming out as enby! I’m glad that you’re that comfortable with your audience! I’m also non-binary, but considering demiboy. I love your videos by the way! Keep up the good work, you’re one of, if not my favorite youtuber!
Something to note, BTW: one of the earlier comic arcs was an origin story for Cadence and Shining's relationship, as they both attended the same high school. It even shows that Cadence was doing the whole foalsitting thing as a legit part-time job, Celestia not included.
Allie here, i want everyone reading this to know you are excepted and loved please dont feel pressured to change who you are for someone else, please always be true to yourself.
Hello, Mx. Waves! I had no idea you were non binary! Congrats! I'd wave a flag, but the emojis are limited in their pride flag selection. All they have is rainbow gay flag and pink blue and white trans flag. That bites. Ooh! I know! heres me showing support! Ally to all ->🟨⬜️🟪⬛️ including you!
I hope y'all non-binaries feel comfortable by coming out as who you are. I'm just a normal hetero girl, but I support u guys and all of the others. Happy Pride Month!
@Shivi Srivastava as a fellow hetero, i would like to ask you something (if you don't mind that is). Um, what do you think of the increased activity of the LGBT community? Like the parade activity on the streets, rainbow colors on almost every big companies logo there are (and the threatening of boycotting in case the companies didn't do it), spreading their ideology throughout every media there is (tv shows, games, comics), and many other things? I understand that they want their rights to be embraced and want to be free from discrimination and bullying, but i think that would have gone a lot smoother if they know their limits and not just over do everything. You know what i'm saying?
@Rosella it can be used both as a gender identity and an umbrella term for anyone who isn't strictly a guy or girl. Basically it means someone who doesn't identify with the gender binary, aka the "only two genders" mindset. Non Binary, as in, not part of the binary. I don't know if that's a good enough explanation so if anyone else wants to give it a go please do.
@Tom Sparrow so the kind of person who can’t be identified as a girl or a boy is a nonbinary?
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Tom Sparrow2021-06-04 19:03:19 (edited 2021-06-04 19:05:03 )
@Rosella yeah, although there are other more specific labels that can mean that in ways. Labels are kind of like clothes, imo, they come in all shapes and sizes and some of them can be very similar and only by trying them on and seeing how they fit you specifically, you can know for sure which ones you wanna keep. (i hope that metaphor makes as much sense written down as it does in my head). Honestly there are "official" definitions out there online if you look them up. Obviously there's no one stop shop authority on all the labels in the queer community (there's a wiki but that doesn't mean everything that's written there is 100% accurate all the time) but i think those sources are a little more reliable than the opinion of just one person, even if that person (me) is non binary themself. I also happen to have a second gender label in addition to non binary so i feel like my relationship to gender is different to someone who identifies only as non binary.
@Rosella yeah they just think there a normal human being thats just living life if that makes sense and they go by they/them but they dont claim themselfs of male , female gender
@Hiccy69 I'm Indian, so I dont know anything about all that. I just know that in India, the LGBTQ+ community is VERY looked down upon. They dont exactly have a good reputation in India
@Shivi Srivastava same here in Indonesia. I want to respect them and i also want my people to respect them. They don't have to support, just don't hate. But, it is kinda hard when the group that you want to respect keep shoving their ideology down other people's throat without the concern of those who don't like it. We don't need our source of entertainment filled with gay characters, we don't need our everyday products to have rainbow colors on it, we don't need a parade on the streets with naked people dancing with rainbow painted all over their body.
@Joy respect is earned, not demanded. You want respect? Respect other first. Stop shoving your ideology down people's throat like it is the most important thing in the world. Yes, there will be supporter, but there will also be haters. In fact, those who once respect you and consider you as fellow normal human, many of them now have rebel against you. You know why? Because they have had enough with how your campaign interfere with their personal lives. They want to watch cartoon or tv shows? Boom, lesbian and gay couple. They want to play a fantastic game? Boom, bisexual characters. They want to socialize with people? Boom, got raped by gay people. You see? The problem is not that we don't want to respect you, the problem is that YOU make it hard for US to respect YOU.
@Hiccy69 theres like a bajillion things wrong with this comment, like how does a gay couple being on tv interfere with ppls lives, it could educate ppl about lgbtq+ community and if u don't like it, TURN IT OFF like srsly just stop🖕
Seeing his pfp is why I changed mine on all platforms. I saw other people doing it, but specifically after his I'm like aight time to put the agender flag behind all my pfps
@ᚺᛖ᛫ᚹᚺᛟ᛫ᛒᚱᛁᛜᛊ᛫ᚦᛖ᛫ᚹᚨᛊᛏᛖ᛫ᛟᚠ᛫ᛏᛖᚱᚱᚨ THIS (btw what i mean is companies shouldnt be completely forced to change their branding BUT can use their public image-is that what its called?- to support thr community
If you actually listened to what @Hiccy69 said and wouldn't automatically call him homophobic you'd see he has a point. Not to mention you're kinda proving it calling him homophobic. The thing is, movie companies and whatever may feel forced to have lgbt couples even though it's not neccessary for the plot or downright ruining it. Look at feminism and the new doctor who or whatever. They forced the female doctor and now the movie is bad. It's not because the doctor is a woman, it's because her character was trash which corelated to the influence from the feminists. There are really cool lgbt+ people but some exploit the amount of power you guys have. For the better or for worse. I hope I made some sense atleast, sending love!
@Aviko thank you for supporting me. I have no problem with LGBT people, but only if they can learn to respect others and know their limits. Yes, they are allowed to protest whenever their rights being violated with no real reason and they are allowed to demand for equality. But must they do it so forcefully? Invading our privacy and our sources of entertainment? There are better ways you know, not just bad ways
I suggest watching "Everything wrong with woke culture" by Baggage Claim. It is about feminism but some of the stuff can be said about the lgbt comunity even out of the context of movie making.
@Hiccy69 It isn’t an “ideology” people are born that way they can’t help it hope I helped some way :) Also we are allowed representation too after years of feeling like there is something wrong with us... maybe not every single thing but there needs to be a balance so everyone is represented be it race, orientation, gender etc also I don’t think companies should turn everything rainbow for pride if they do nothing for lgbtq+ people... it’s mostly performative activism and for money and I don’t really agree with that
@Hiccy69 Oh, I'm sorry that we want to be represented as well. For ages, the media was filled with cishet people and characters. And even if someone was made canon as anything other than cishet, it was almost always by tweeting things into canon, the character getting killed off, etc etc. Even in media, anything other than cishet was treated as a second class human. Heck, even in real life, this mentality still exists. For a lot of people in the LGBT+ community, cishet culture was shoved down their throat and they were taught that anything other than that was "sinful". They have had to hide who they are for the sake of some bigots' comfort. And more importantly, for their own safety. People get raped, killed, beaten up, mistreated purely for their sexuality or gender identity.
And I certainly am not saying that cases of LGBT+ people raping other people don't exist. I believe that those cases unfortunately exist. But those people should not be lumped in with people who just want to have the right to exist without fear of abuse or getting killed for who they are.
Also, WE are shoving our beliefs down YOUR throat? Might I perhaps introduce you to various religions? Stuff that had entire wars centered around shoving their belief down other people's throat? But no, it's fine when a Jehovah witness keeps harassing some atheist. Yet the moment someone says "I'm gay" or "I'm not cis", everyone outrages over how we're shoving our beliefs down other people's throats and blablabla.
We want to be represented, have the same rights as cishet people, want to be protected against discrimination, not seen as the other or the outcast and be able to be our true self.
Let's take my little pony friendship is magic as an example. At the end of the series, a few ships were made canon. Pinky and cheese sandwich were portrayed as married with a kid. Discord and fluttershy were pretty clearly in a relationship. I don't remember who rarity ended up with. But rainbow dash and applejack were only vaguely hinted to be living together. No explicit language that they're in a relationship, like with pinky and cheese. So many shows are just too afraid of showcasing LGBT+ characters because bigots start whining about the one character not being cishet. These shows think that it's better to just not bother, because their LGBT+ fans won't raise a stink about it.
It's like portraying a person of color. You wouldn't whine about that, because it's discrimination. Yet it's okay to be so bigoted about one gay character or one asexual or any character from the LGBT+ community? Even if they are just the token character with no further characteristics than "they're a member of this community"? Which honestly isn't even acceptable representation. Because sexuality or gender identity isn't the only thing that makes someone who they are.
Take me for example. I'm bisexual. I feel attracted to male and female. Right now I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend. Most people assume I'm straight because I, a female, am dating a male. So when someone comments on how I'm straight and I explain that I'm bi, the correct response would be to apologize and correct yourself. I identity as bisexual and you'd be a bigot if you comment on how I "don't look bi". It's like walking up to a person with, say, autism. You might not notice they have it. So when the topic would come up, you'd be a bigot for saying that someone doesn't look autistic.
And you want to know why the LGBT+ community is rioting or protesting? It's because that's the only way we get those rights. A lot of the rights we have today are BECAUSE of those riots. Most notably, Stonewall. Those riots were by black lesbians fighting for rights. If you don't want us to riot, have a polite conversation with us about our necessities and rights. And then actually give us those necessities and rights. So many places in the world still have laws that makes it legal to discriminate against members of the LGBT+ community.
I encourage you to do some research before continuing to whine about our needs for the same rights that white cishets have enjoyed for ages. And think about why we behave the way we do.
And if you somehow still don't understand us or our actions and beliefs, just ask us.
And if you still have a "cishet first" mentality and a stubborn unwillingness to learn, you don't have the right to complain when you get called out on it.
Good places to start are Lilly Orchard/Lilly Peet and Powered By Rainbows. These channels are personally involved and part of the LGBT+ community and have multiple videos on topics related to the community. With Lilly, it's the videos about Orchard Blossom and a video called Slurred Speech in particular. With Powered By Rainbows, it's basically all their videos. I mostly recommend the video explaining all pride flags as a good place to start. And if you prefer learning through memes, you might want to check out One Topic At A Time. He himself isn't part of the community, but supports the community and tries to learn about it through memes. His videos tend to be more lighthearted and wholesome rather than direct and serious.
@Beep boop first, i appreciate that you want to spend your time in order to typing in all of these words just to prove your points. Second, i don't really mind if i ever met non-straight people, either that through social media or real life. I won't bully or discriminate them. I'll just let them live their lifes as they see fit. Third, the reason why i want you guys to know your limits in spreading your ideology, is because not only you have more supporters, you also have more haters each and every day. I live in Indonesia, so i know how high the rate of homophobic here. And you know what? Most of them, at first, didn't have any problem with you guys. But the more you act without caution, the more their hatred grows. Not to mention other homophobic countries. So yeah, if you just know your limits, there is a chance that they won't bother you. Sure, they maybe will never support you, but hey, at least thats better than being hated more and more. You have to realized that not everyone will accept or liked your ideology. I'm not typing this comment out of hatred, but rather, as a warning. I hope you get my point. Have a nice day mate
@Hiccy69 I appreciate that you're concerned about us. And I will admit that not everyone in the community is going about things the same way. A portion of us do need to chill out a bit and others (such as truscum. Hope I spelled it correctly) are outright trying to make it worse for the community.
But more characters from the community in media, better education on various sexualities and gender identities, less discrimination and more rights are very important.
More LGBT+ people in the media for representation because it helps people with coming out of the closet, learning that their existence isn't bad, knowing that they are not alone or weird and having someone to look up to.
Better education for normalizing relationships and identities other than cishet, preventing bullying and suicide, helping people know themselves better and preventing identity crisis.
Less discrimination and more rights because we are people too. No matter the skin color, gender identity, sexuality or anything else, we are all humans. And we all deserve the same rights. I don't believe that the LGBT community should have more rights than cishet people. Rather, I believe we deserve equal rights, even if they are expressed a bit different. For example, cishet couples are allowed to marry and adopt kids. A gay couple should have the same rights. People with vitamin deficiency or people wanting to loose weight can have pills and surgery for those things. A transgender person should have the same rights. I mean, cishet people are allowed to have surgery to make their boobs bigger, so why should a trans woman not be allowed to have a surgery to get boobs? And in a lot of countries, LGBT+ people do have a lot or all of the same rights as cishet people. But a lot of counties is not all countries. We still have a long way to go and we're not gonna get there by silently living in the closet. That would make pride Month a very boring month XD
Everyone has their own way of doing things. So when criticizing a group of people that uses too extreme methods, criticize the method. And if you do criticize LGBT+ people for going too far, criticize those that indeed go too far and try to keep an open mind to those who know the limits.
I don't mean to accuse you or come of as hateful to you. I intend to encourage you to learn about us, remind you to keep an open mind to those who mean no harm and not let the actions of a few color your view of the entire community.
@Beep boop that is literally what i have been trying to tell the homophobic in my country. Try to respect others, don't discriminate, accept them as equal. But, oh no, once they said "LGBTQ is bad, no matter what" they meant it. They may think that LGBT is bad, but that doesn't mean the people are bad as well. In fact, i have seen you guys done so many act of kindness that sometimes, even better than straight people. Hopefully, this world someday will be better, with homophobic starting to respect LGBT people, and LGBT people starting to not keep shoving their ideology through other people's throat and respecting privacy.
@Hiccy69 Yeah. I believe that future will come someday. Despite there always being a few bad apples in any community, I believe that someday in the future LGBT+ people will be seen as normal. That we have equal rights. Just like with how writing with your left hand is seen as normal.
I once saw a post that shows how it should be. A child asks their mom "why doesn't everyone in my class have two moms or two dads? ". And the mother explained it as followed. She said " You know how some people write with their left hand? " The child awnsered with a yes, to which the mom said "having two moms or two dads is like writing with your left hand. It's rarer, but not any better or worse"
It went like that. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but that's the gist of it. I know someday people will see the LGBT+ community in the same or a similar way. It's just a matter of time. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later
@lemonqvartz i think you misunderstand. What i meant by "ideology" is how a way of life being represented and shared. Either that through forming a community, online media, big company supports, etc.
@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno "oh, what a lovely conversation that we are having right now. Do you want some tea? Oh nevermind, there is probably some poison in there since i am a homophobic, so that means i am the bad guy." Just because i don't support the LGBT movement, that doesn't mean that i am a homophobic.
@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno and you don't get to tell people who to hate and who to love. I choose who i want to love and who i want to hate. Just the lucky thing that i don't hate gay people. But i might if you continue to act like an asshole and twisting my words every now and then.
@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno hah, what a coward. You didn't even have any solid argument and just twisting my words every now and then. Gay or not, you are a worthless being
@Hiccy69 It's not really "shoving ideology down people's throats", though. I don't think companies being forced to make their logos rainbow and stuff is good, but I disagree with most of your other points. Being heterosexual and cisgender is normalised, so most people don't mind seeing that in popular media and irl. However, LGBTQ+ people have been underepresented (or not represented at all) for a very long time, so now we're changing that. Cishet representation is hardly ever looked down upon because it seems so natural for it to be there, whereas LGBTQ+ representation isn't as widespread and is a relatively new thing. LGBTQ+ people are just normal people, though, so they should be treated as such, which is why seeing them represented should be just as natural as cishet people. :)
@andystellar two words: "opinion" and "facts". Heterosexual is normalized throughout the media because it is the natural and best way to express your needs of sexuality. Which of course, it is a fact. Like how humans need to drink, eat and breathe to survive. On the other hands, there are still so many debates about the good and bad of LGBTQ community. Each sides have their own opinion. Each sides have their own facts that they believe is right. Each sides have been on this debate war for many years now. Like how some people like to eat vegetables, while others like to eat meats.
@Hiccy69 okay, okay. Assigned female at birth trixic nonbinary person here, trying to understand both sides of the argument. I think I understand what you mean by shoving ideology down throats, and what you probably are getting at is all these companies making LGBTQ+ "merch" in June. This is because June is Pride Month, and large corporations want teenagers to consume their products. Trust me, queer folks don't like it either, because it's completely degrading the Stonewall riots to nothing but rainbows and loud screaming about pride (and doing nothing to actually help closeted gay kids in discriminating families) and the second June ends they're going to go back to doing nothing once again. You know why people dislike it? Because it's big corporations pretending to care. It's a big show and nobody likes it. I understand that. However, movies, books, and songs about LGBTQ+ people are NOT shoving ideology down people's throats. You should take a look at some content creators who are actually LGBTQ+! For example Jazmin Bean is a pansexual nonbinary teenager who makes very nice rock music and is also a makeup artist. And they're not shoving their sexuality down people's throats at all. The only people doing that are SJWs (who we ALSO dislike) on Twitter and big corporations like Target and Disney.
@Pink Addy's Tea Shoppe for the company part, i did hear some rumor about the threat of boycotting if the company didn't agree to be a part of LGBT celebration (which i think is very wrong). However, those company did exploit and used the LGBT campaign as a mean to gain more profit and never really cared about the rights or suffering of LGBT people. Now, i do think each sides had their own reasons to did all those things, and i will try to be as neutral as possible here. For the content creator part, i actually don't really cared about their connection with the LGBT community. As long as they followed the law and rules, have actual talents, and not stealing or cheating, i'm completely fine with that.
@Beep boop pride month is a bloody day in my country the day when March and parade commences but but 🏳️🌈 are not being hurt they are little bit hurting others in my country the one of the most suffering countries in worlds history from most of its origins cough* Georgia and in it the day of pride mounts is an almost civil war you need to give up in some countries because people in them don’t like your ideology mostly orthodox country’s they are rioting against all of you that are in my country not others about others they don’t care they well they want to be left alone without 🏳️🌈 trying to replace every other or convert all into it in my country that is happening you can exist but continued actions that go ever board in some countries if you don’t give up they will make you give up be careful and why did I say to you to be careful well expressing sure but over expressing in countries were people literally all most start a civil war you should give up its only hope of survival for you because if you continue other countries will take notice of that and do the same protests riots and then civil wars you need to keep I calm or your and they’re tights are being broken ave yourself and by that save others and so I must say
NOT AN HATE COMMEN!! A warning bye 👋 waves from destroyed country.
@Georgian countryball yeah, there are unfortunately countries where you get a death sentence for associating with the LGBT+ community. For example, my sister wants to visit Indonesia really badly. But I don't, because being part of the LGBT+ community is not really accepted and actually punishable. I'm bi and pretty sure I'm non binary. But if I decide to actually change my passport to fit my new gender identity, I'll get in trouble the moment people at the airport check it. My dad (who only knows I'm bi) told me to "just not appear bi" or something. But that misses the point entirely. I'd be stressing out a lot for fear of being caught. And there's no way I would enjoy myself that way.
It really sucks that still so many countries will punish you for not being cishet. I hope that will change soon.
Oh also, try to use commas and such. It makes it easier for other people to read
sees Sawtooth's new profile picture holy s*** that's the Non Binary flag!! That's awesome!! Good on you for coming out, Sawtooth!! Does anyone know what Sawtooth's specific pronouns are?
Actually Cadence was Twilight's foal-sitter before she got her cutie mark, so the sonic rainboom has nothing to do with Cadence and Shining's relationship
You know theres probably a simple explanation . It's possible when princess Celestia had cadence as her student/ pupil she wanted to teach her all the values of being a princess even out side of the castle so she signed her up for foal sitting and put posters all over canterlot and twilight's parents seeing the offer excepted and with that Cadence met twilight and got more closer with Shining armor.
I just love how so far i see so much people from the LGBTQ+ community in the comments, it’s so nice to see so many people coming out of the closet and become comfortable with openly saying it in the comments!
I myself is Genderfluid, was once NB myself. I hope to see more positivity from the community!
i also want to congratulate you Sawtooth! I’m so glad you’re comfortable openly telling us! i’m a huge fan aswell! <3
Great theory! And a cute one x3 I like that explanation. c: When you talked about Chrysalis at the beginning for a short moment, I remembered a scene with Chrysalis, that bothered me a long time. In the season finale, where Starlight changed the future, Chrysalis found Zecoras village. Can you find an answer why Chrysalis wanted to take Zecora to the mines of Canterlot, where she kept Cadance? I can't find an answer what Zecora could do for Chrysalis. Zecora can do kinda magic and knows a lot, but what does she know that could help Chrysalis? That question comes into my mind every now and then, but i can't put my hoof on it. Have you any ideas? You always come up with things I never imagined.
Love your theories and I already thought that Cadence and Shining met because of her babysitting Twilight, but you got a bit more in depth, and it just made me absolutely love this theory. Cant wait for part 2!
Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^ Your collabs with the Nameless One are fun to watch. They open up a lot of possibilities as well with the ability to travel between universes. If you two ever decide to collab on more videos exploring the other timelines, I'll certainly be happy to give them a watch. ^_^
I noticed the profile pic change a couple days ago and then I was like “Sawtooth is non-binary?!?!” And I got incredibly happy, but then I was like, or “or maybe just showing solidarity? It’s an oddly specific flag to choose for showing solidarity” so I went to the about section of their channel and sure enough, “non-binary changeling (they/them)” it was so incredible seeing this person who’s been making theories since my childhood has something so wonderful in common with me! And then I was like “has this been known for a while and have I just been getting it wrong this whole time??” So I have just one question for you, Sawtooth, how long has that sentence been in the about section?
Great! Now we might talk about other timelines. Starlight really likes theories.
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Amazing Mr. X2021-06-04 23:08:48 (edited 2021-06-04 23:10:07 )
Kinda a weird one, Sawtooth. I guess If we ignore the entire arc in the official comics that explicitly covers solely this, and we flip some events around so Twilight has her cutie mark in those scenes where Cadence is foal-sitting, then your fanfic kinda works.
Otherwise? Without her friends there to preform their different tasks at the wedding, Twilight just has less exposure to the strange activity that causes her to grow suspicious of Chrysalis. The confrontation doesn't happen, Twilight never helps Cadence escape the mines, and Chrysalis just outright wins. You don't even need to explain it that far, since Twilight's entire life would have been different in this timeline. It's possible she just doesn't have the confidence or personality to have that kind of confrontation with Chrysalis in the first place, perhaps she's even too focused on her own life to notice or care about Cadence's strange behavior at all.
I love the theory, but there's one thing off. Twilight didnt yet have her cutie mark when she was being babysat by Cadence (as is seen in the flashback that Twilight has in the S2 finale). Since rainboom caused Twilight to get her mark, and in the flashback she didnt have one, Cadence must have been the foalsitter before the timeline was altered
I wonder if Celestia already knew before Twilight and Rainboom that she was meant to become the next ruler of Equestria? After all, time spells do exist in Equestria, and so do ponies who can sense the future (cough Pinkie cough)
This has always been my theory as well. Yeah, the other guy's thing about Twilight's cutie mark is a thing, but I think that is simply someone in the creative team not thinking the timeline through properly. For Twilight to be the right age to be in high school for EQG but the rest of the Mane Six being the correct ages for the various things we learn about them, Twilight has to be considerably younger and thus have gotten her cutie mark at a very young age.
Hey Sawtooth, remember the video you made about the origin of the everfree forest? I think the mystery can be solved now with the pillars planting the tree of harmony and starswirl also saying that they kept the forest under control, meaning that the forest was always there even before the tree , can you please do a video about it
Hey Sawtooth! Big fan of your channel! I have a theory for you to consider. The Chrysalis timeline could still exist because Twilight never stopped Chrysalis from marrying Shining Armor and imprisoning Cadence forever. Ergo, the changelings would be able to feed off of that love forever.
Sawtooth Waves: Alright let's see what people thought of my latest theory. Checks and sees everyone pointing out the plot hole Sawtooth Waves: WhAt HaVe I dOnE!?
I’ve always wondered this but here’s my possible theory. What if the rainboom never existed during their timeline because it had been prevented by someone who didn’t want the two to get married in the first place who hated the idea that Shining and Cadence were in love?
You're NB!?!?!?! That's amazing! Im so happy you came out! I am in the LGBT community myself (ace lesbian, or you could call it bambi lesbian) and I LOVE seeing more love and more people in the community! You are a Pony (or more changling, lol) that I've admired for a long time! Congrats on coming out sawtooth!!!💛🤍💜🖤
Hey Sawtooth, This question has been keeping me up at night.....What if any other creature used the tiny fragment of the shell that turns seaponies into hippogriffs? Could the whole shell do something more powerful instead of a tiny piece? What if someone like tirek or Chrysalis got their hands on this? Would the mlp world be doomed? Or will it literally cause zero change? I need to know!!!
I see others have already brought up the cutie mark issue, so I'll just go straight to the other point that you probably can't assume that a Twilight who didn't meet her friends would still have facilitated the defeat of Chrysalis if presented with the same situation. The Twilight in that universe presumably doesn't know about the power of friendship, for one thing, so it's very plausible that she wouldn't bother freeing Cadance in the end due to not thinking it even matters. Beyond that, she failed her entrance exam, so she wouldn't have gone to the best school and learned from Celestia; she'd be less powerful and have a lower-quality education. That could hinder her enough that she doesn't find Cadance and get the two of them out of the mines before the invasion begins, and that might mean that she never even has a chance to bring Cadance and Shining Armor together.
I can’t believe that he’s still doing theroies! I’ve been watching this channel since 2016 and it’s one of my favorites of all time, I don’t know when but eventually this channel will no longer talk about mlp but until then keep on going with your theroies!
I'm not sure if you know this, but sawtooth is nonbinary, and uses they/them pronouns, not he/him. Just letting you know!! And yes their content is my FAVORITE!!🥰🥰
Your videos really have alot of info and detail put in them. I really appreciate how much time you put in them. Can you make a video on how the ponies look like lgbtq+ flags. And why they are in mlp as pony characters. Twilight the colours looks like the bisexual flag, rainbow dash colours look like the gay flag, pinkie pie looks like pansexual flag, rarity non binary i think. Also some other ponies that have the colours in them. There are a ton of lgbtq+ flags.
Also could you make a video on the actual story of the 6 girls thats based of mlp but in real life. I dont think it would actually be appropriate because the girls real life story is sad but its still good to know who the 6 girls from mlp are based off and how the real stpry goes. Alot of disney movies have real dark stories behind them for example cinderella. And also mlp has this aswell but the difference is how they change these movies and shows to make it entertaining for kids. But the actual real stories are disgusting. Its like the nursery rhymes they are so dark and have hidden meaning. Everything literally does.
Aw man, I thought you were going to tell us how Chrystal's plan in the Royal Wedding was actually well thought out (differing from main opinion about it), instead of discussing an alternative time-line.
I'm a little disappointed but of course I'll watch part two I think.
I do feel like it’s entirely possible that Cadence would’ve fullsat Twilight either way. It’s just a possibility, and honestly a very slim one But we already know that it’s possible to become an ailacorn and not just be born one. So it’s entirely possible she wasn’t always royalty, and was just casually babysitting some random kid. While it probably isn’t true Oh well
Okay so ignoring the video problem, (Cadence could had meet Twilight before the rainboom) we gotta talk about the real issue, how and why did Chrysalis did got on power? Made a take over on Celestia and Luna like season 7 I think? They made a full surprise attack? Did Shining Armor was still a royal guard? Candace made had meet him on Canterlot. So, much, possibilities.
First of all I'm so proud of you for pride month second of all don't you sometimes take some stuff out of the comics so why didn't you take the comic and to consideration this time the chemic literally has an entire story about how they met
My theory on how Cadence and Shining Armor met: Cadence and shining met in a school project. Cadence would always help shining armor and they both grew close. They started hanging out more and when shining mentioned his sister, cadence decided to foalsit her. Long after, they decided to marry each other and were so excited, Until someone named chrysalis came around… Then she destroyed the wedding and bla bla bla we know the rest!
I just read the comment of Adam Wood studio and i think he's right for the most part. Although, I actually think that there's another reason for Shining and Cadence not meeting each other in the Chrysalis timeline: what if Twilight, after passing the exam and becoming Celestia's pupil, got Cadance not only as a ponysitter, but also as an afterschool teacher/tutor? That would have allowed Cadence not only to get to know Shining Armor, but also to spend even more time with him since, as a ponysitter, she would spend time with Twilight only when her parents and older brother weren't around
I have a theory! It could be possible that she did go through with the plan of infiltrating the wedding but she also attempted to take over again by replacing the main six, the sisters, and Cadence.But guess who stopped her Starlight and who turned Starlight good? The main six. Which is how she succeeded. If it weren’t for the main six Starlight wouldn’t have stopped her. Btw I said this in another video of yours.
Holy crap! I haven’t watched you since I was a child, well, I still am technically a kid; but I was super young, I was invested in all of your content and it’s honestly a joy to see you again.
And I see you’re non-binary? Awesome! I’m absolutely going to be catching up and tuning in from now one, but seriously, thanks for basically raising 8 Y.O me. :)
One of us! One of us! Great theory and hooray for a fellow enby. 💛🤍💜🖤 I dont care if technically it doesn't work because Twilight seems to have known Cadence before getting her cutie mark, its still fun to theorize the what ifs!
I know you sort of debunked this in your latest video but I think twilight also still had Cadence as a foul sitter, it’s possible because shining armor possibly was a royal guard at the time. Because he was of such a high status he would be granted the ability to have Cadence as a foul sitter, I imagine it going a bit like this “Princess may I have a top tier sitter to look after my little sister Twilight? I really want her to be in good hooves!” Idk, then Princess Celestia would have possibly assigned Cadence because of her kind and loving nature. So it’s possible that the wedding still happened
There's still 2 problems with this theory. Twilight didn't have a cutie mark when Cadance was her foal sitter, but shining armor and Cadance also went to high school together, and there's a whole comic based around how they met and how they fell in love which does not involve Twilight.
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Best Buddy2021-06-04 16:10:02 (edited 2021-06-04 16:12:21 )
The new pfp makes me happy :00 love ur vids and happy pride month! <3
One problem is in the flash back twilight didn’t have her cutie mark but I have a different theory. I think that twilight would not see Cadence enough to realize her strange behavior. She might realize her brother’s but she also might just think that it is the stress of the wedding or protecting Canterlot. Once Chrysalis got enough love and gained she and her changling’s would take over but it would be to late.
I LOVE your vids, Sawtooth! I know a lot more things about mlp now than i did before i started watching your channel! I think your theory is plausible, but, like some people are saying, Twilight DIDN'T HAVE a cutie mark in her flashback of the times when cadence foal sitted her.
This was really interesting Also happy Pride Month! I see you are non-binary Did anyone notice, RD is the colors of the LGBTQ flag, Twi is bi, the spa ponies are trans, and the violin player is asexual?
In the ep. “To Where and Back Again” Starlight was the one who convinced the changlings reform and let everyone free. But erase the sonic rainboom and Twilight never became Celestia’s student, never made friends and became an alicorn Princess. If starlight never became Twilight’s student to learn friendship, she wouldn’t reform the changlings and let everyone free. And I think this is Chrysalis revenge because in that flash back with Twilight and Candence Twilight doesn’t have her Cutie Mark yet. And the canterlot wedding will be similar to the original timeline.
Believe it or not I actually thought of the theory he was gonna before he said it. Before Sawtooth said it I actually expected Cadence and Shining Armor to be together because of Twilight's status even as a kid.
I'm A Bagel2021-06-14 05:25:47 (edited 2021-06-14 05:31:29 )
This has nothing to do with the actual video, but like, bear with me
I have been watching you since I first managed to get on youtube. I was like ten or eleven. When I started, I though I was a cis girl. Over the past few months, I realized I was genderfluid. At this point, I have been watching your videos for like five years. At this point, I can officially say you are just as much a part of my childhood as this show itself is. And then, June 2021, you change your pfp to the enby flag . I check "about" your pronouns changed to they/them. It blew my fucking mind. You, this random person that I watch the theory videos of has also gone through the journey of self discovery I did, during relatively the same time frame. I just- Me too, friend, me too.
ok, i have a BIG question. exactly how the crystal ponies are explained, they are earthen ponys but possess a magic attributable to that of the alicorn (for the love that spreads) the point and that I do not understand them, for example when they were discovered by the ponies of equestria and because the guards are sometimes crystal poses sometimes normal, if you make a video about it I bet you will clarify everything for me
If there's a question the show hasn't answered or a character that hasn't been expanded upon, leave it to Hasbro to milk the IDW comics
Also could you make a video on Scootaloo and Spike's background? They both overlooked by their family and sometimes the show will contradict itself(Father Knows Beast vs Sparkle 7 and Parental Glideance vs The last Crusade)
I never thought that the rainboom was connected to Cadence and Shining Armor meeting each other. But Twilight would have needed the rest of the mane 6 to get angry that no one believed her about Cadence, and then go to Shining Armor and saw Cadence doing to spell on Shining Armor and then accused Cadence of being evil. Then the rest of the episode wouldn't have happened and Queen Chrysalis would have won and would have taken over Equestria.
This is actually explained in the comics. Granted, it's not exactly when they met per se. But it is the moment when they actually became a couple. I don't think I need to say much, because, for the most part, my theory matches yours. (After checking, that doesn't work because they fell in love before Twilight got her cutie mark.)
I could also argue that Celestia would've been weakened after defending Equestria from Nightmare Moon (because Twilight wouldn't have had access to the Elements of Harmony to defeat her). This could also mean that Chrysalis could've taken advantage of the situation earlier than in canon. After all, what happened to Nightmare Moon in all of the alternate timelines that show Celestia NOT seeled away on the moon? We know of at least 2 timelines, and Nightmare Moon's timeline is apparently the only one where Nightmare Moon is successful. In the Sombra timeline and the Discord timeline, Celestia wasn't sealed away. And in the Discord timeline, Nightmare Moon is back to being Luna (though that could've been Discord's doing). So it's likely reasonable that in a few timelines at least, Celestia was able to win against Nightmare Moon. So why not assume Chrysalis's timeline isn't one of them?
Maybe a fix to the whole 'Twilight doesn't have her cutie mark when Cadence started foalsitting' would be that, maybe, Celestia knew Twlight's potential before her cutie mark, and tasked the new young princess with foalsitting her, to give Cadence mare to foal experiences that she'd need as a princess, and to expose the young Twilight to powerful magic while she's still young.
Also, completely unrelated, but I think that you coming out as nb indirectly related to me finding out I'm agender and not a trans guy, so thanks for that~!
I complete agree with this theory but I have something to add. When starlight prevented the rainboom that connected the mane six equestria would be ruled by someone else before chrysalis, nightmare moon. Without the mane 6 nightmare moon would’ve ruled. And some might say “6 other ponies would form a new mane 6” but twilight is the only one that would’ve and could form the element of magic.
Hello! I have a suggestion for a video! What is the difference between Discord magic, that was taken from him directly by Tirek in "Twilight's Kingdom" and Discord magic, that was sealed in Grogar's Bell? In the second case no one could take his magic from the bell. I hope my video suggestion will be noticed!
since people comment that cadence knew twilight before her cutie mark, I believe her and shining were good friends during school OR that cadence's family were friends with twilights. Or just cadence being a baby sitter, meeting her brother, and so on.
For once, I have to disagree for now. My biggest issue with your theory is that Twilight didn't have her cutiemark during the flashback of her time being babysat by Cadance. You even showed a screencap of that flashback and she didn't have her cm. This puts that flashback to before the sonic rainboom.
There is another clue that links Cadance and Shining Armor's meeting to be related to the Sonic Rainboom. Cadance specifically requested one at her wedding, and while that could just be for fanciness, I found it interesting because Cadance would have never likely cared about it...unless she saw it and it was important to hers and Shining's relationship.
While I like this theory I think it's wrong, Twilight was the one who saved Cadence from the mines, putting Cadence in a position to reach Shining armor.
But... issues 11 and 12 of the comics already explain how Cadance and Shining met... that was years ago. Can't we just accept that sometimes the show writers didn't think things through when writing stories?
it took me a moment to cop the profile and i came to the comments to see i wasn’t mistaken, that’s so cool you can share that with us especially in this pride month, great video as always as well :)
happy pride month sawtooth and random comment readers
Dear Sawtooth, I am here to fix your debunked theory. I think your theory is correct! If we change it up a bit😉 the problem was that Twilight didn't have her cutie mark when cadence baby sitted her but what if it were that twilight knew candence from the start. Here me out, after seeing the sun celebration twilight got more into magic and mainly into celestia's magic. She wanted to learn more about her cause she was influenced by her, so she learned that Celestia had taken Cadence under her wing. Knowing that she begged her parents to ask the princess to allow cadence to baby sit her. Celestia ofc said yes, knowing that someone studied so much to even know about cadence, since the news didn't go viral.this also explains how she was enrolled in celestias school and how celestia new before the rainboom that twilight was special,Therefore cadence met shining and fell in love blah blah blah. I hope this fixed it.😰
What would you say about alternate theory connected to love-poison? What if I would say that princess in the book was nopony else but Chrysalis herself. After she was afected by the potion for to long so the spell was impossible to reverse (like happened to Big Mac and Cherile) someone tried to seperate them anyway. Who knows, mabe even Celestia herself had to interfere (that would explain why they looked like if they had known each other for so long and so on...). Magicaly induced thirst for love that Chrysalis lacked after losing connection to her prince could theoreticaly cause her to need that love for sustain more than food (aslo it explains how both her and prince lived despite ignoring everything around, including food, to look into each other's eyes). Hope you will like this theory :3
Was wondering if you were ever going to talk about the Male alicorn that appears in s8 ep5 at around 6 minutes in. Was watching it when I noticed something odd and so I rewound it just to make sure I saw it correctly and there is a male alicorn there. I know it's probably an animation error but I thought it was funny and worth a share.
I think that once twilight didn’t get into the magic school due to no sonic rain boom, that cadence had to foul sit more or had to leave due to royal duties. I would think she would be with twilight so much she felt part of the family that she wouldn’t have time to think of twilights brother in that way, like a missed chance rather than a whole relationship that they built in the main timeline, twilight had no clue about it that they probably dated when she wasn’t around ( when she was in school or studying which she did a lot/taking care of a baby dragon) so cadence probably focused more on twilight than she had time to even consider shining armor as an option in romance, especially since twilight was most like depressed from failing the test.
If shining armor and cadence started dated while canence was still foal sitting for twilight then twilight would have been aware of their relationship. We can see in part 1 of the Canterlot wedding that twilight was unaware. I dont think its likely that they would keep it a secret or if they did they certainly wouldn't into adulthood.
This theory is great but since Twilight didn’t have her cutie mark while Cadence foal sat her I have an idea about how she is. Shining and Cadence seem pretty much the same age so basing off of that, what if Shining was training to become apart of the royal guard at that age? Perhaps similarly to Twilight, he showed great potential and the current head of the royal guard took him in. Maybe during this time Shining ran into Cadence a few times. As they were most likely just kids/becoming teens they wouldn’t treat each other formally resulting in them becoming friends. Cadence could’ve then volunteered to be Twilights babysitter at one point and then from there it’s pretty much history :)
I think its simple. Instead of taking the place of Vadence. She simple replaced one of these three, Shinning Armor. Celestia or Luna. If shining then she can slowly replace every royal gaurd member then takeover. If Luna, she starts recreating the Circumstances that made Luna be nightmare moon. Celestia having lost the ability you use the elements gives up to what she thought was her sister but in reality was Chrysalis. Finaly Celestia herself. So this gonna be a longer one so here we go. Yet the key to defeating Celeste is finding someone that she loves and respects with all of her heart so sunset shimmer. As we know she never hated sunset for her betrayal so this is how she but replaces Celestia. I don't know how she would've learned about sunset probably in the Royal archives or the canterlot archives or maybe from celestious personal study I don't know how you'd get into either of these places but whatever that part doesn't exactly matter. So she waits for the next time the portal to the human world opens and then places some guards there to make sure the real sunset shimmer does not come through the portal which she won't because she doesn't know about the elements of harmony being there because they're not. She goes up to Celestia pretending to be sunset and pretending to be super remorseful this of course makes Celestia very happy her love is overflowing but this is when she lacks her plan to capture Celestia. She says that there's a threat from the other world that's going to be coming here and that we need the elements of harmony to stop them celestial support worried because she can't use the elements but maybe just maybe the 5 that she found in ponyville plus sunset might be able to do it so she goes along with sunset there with no guards because she thinks the real sunsets with her. Of course that was a mistake because now they're alone she knocks out Celestia has some of her gut yards take her back to the hive to be CO cooned up and she takes over and celestia's place doing again what I said with shining armour replacing the guard slowly with change lings until there's literally no one left that can stop them. Those are the 3 possible outcomes I think what happened I mean yeah 21 of them's longer than the other 2 but that's still very possible all these are very possible who knows we won't into that video happens.
I have a headcanon. It is that Twilight took the magic of Equestria when she accidently cast a powerful spell after singing about her friends not being alive anymore! Yeah it's sad!
Here's my theory. So if the headcanon is not true, then maybe Twilight have the mind of here friends inside of her own!!!
I actually thought the exact same thing! Shame that they don't think that far while making the show, and represent Twilight without a Cutie Mark when she was babysitted by Cadance... It hardly makes sense that royalty, an alicorn that was already Celestia's protege, babysitted a random unicorn. To make money? It's absurd on so many levels.
So we can only theorize. Maybe Celestia knew that Twilight was going to be special BEFORE her test, and sent Cadance watching over her, preparing her. Twilight was given a dragon egg to hatch on her first exam. At this age, it is shown with Sweetie Belle that unicorn struggle turning book pages, or lifting a broom. And no other unicorn attempting the Gifted unicorn school (Minuette, Moon Dancer...) though being the same age, is shown taking care of a baby dragon. So this could explain why Cadance was Twilight foalsitter.
Now, maybe by failing the exam, Twilight could have gone depressed, and retire herself from magic altogether. We never see an alternate universe Twilight. Sure she must have been in Canterlot, but maybe it was because she didn't do magic at all. We've seen characters going crazy over not being powerful enough (Tempest with her broken horn, Starlight not attempting the gifted unicorn school after Starbust got his cutie mark first, Sunset, when she didn't get what she desired as quickly as she wanted, turning cruel and dishonest, eventually abandoning her studies to pursue her own path...) So Twilight could have followed the same pattern? Or maybe became more like Moon Danser, burying herself in studies, to prove she was worth something...
This theory could have impacted the way Twilight acted in her brother's wedding if there was one. Maybe she was too nervous, closed on herself to burst accusations in front of Celestia, which will result in Chrysalis sending her where the real Cadance was. Or maybe she was still close enough to Shining Armor that Chrysalis has to take her into account by tricking her too, or casting a spell on her, providing her again to find the real Cadance.
For more clue we could analyze what Starlight precisely changes in the chrysalis timeline. She stop the bullying and makes fluttershy and her bullies practice together. She also pushed her equality ideology on them. Twilight tried to convince Rainbow Dash that she could do the Sonic Rainboom, end Rainbow Dash noticed she was an alicorn. The first part is more probable to have change something. All the mane six (exept for Twilight that we don't see) have the same cutie mark. Their destiny wasn't changed, just delayed. We can guess the same thing happened to Twilight so she wasn't Celestia's protege, but she still had a role to play with magic. With all that, we can assume the wedding still happened? And in other vers she was able to do something to stop Chrysalis, since we saw a Sombra and Tirek vers... I don't know, this is all I can gather, and I'm sure i've forgotten important things :/
"Cadance and Shining Armor never became a couple." Me: Oh, I get it, because Cadance only started babysitting Twilight after the young Twilight became Celestia's student and because of this she met Shining Armor. But in a world where the rainboom never happened, Twilight wouldn't become Celestia's student, Cadance wouldn't have to babysit her and because of that she wouln't met her love. Did I get it right? Edit: Yes
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I know I'm late but I think this theory might work with the S2 E25. If there was no mane 6 twilight will be helping planning therefor not noticing the diferences.
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Well this was definitely a different theory than what I was expecting from the Thumbnail and video name, but it definitely interesting to think about, oh, and some advice for Sawtooth, you might wanna change yourself into an unreformed changeling just so you don't stick out as a target
maybe if Twilight's friends hadn't encouraged her to go to the wedding she would've been too mad at Shining Armor to go and thus Crysalis would've succeeded because it was originally twilight who figured out what was off about Cadance.
I think your theory is right, but the it couldn’t have happened without the main six because they need the gang to defeat the changlings out front to get twilight to the throne room to save cadence to save shining armor to save equestria.
I personally think that Chrysalis simply impersonated Cadence like the original plan. After doing that, Chrysalis ruled the Crystal Empire and basically used the love and light from the city to feed the changelings, making them grow even more powerful. It would be easy since all Chrysalis needs to do is to have a group change into crystal ponies and switch out every moon or so, taking turns to drain the love and grow more powerful till they got enough power for the army of changelings to attack Canterlot and take over from there
This is a simple thing I thought of, feel free to take ideas qwq
Or it was literally all the things before that? Like Nightmare Moon and Discord. How can you have a wedding if your aunt managed to fail to save her sister? Under a new crazy dictator who is extremely jealous and violent how would there be another alicorn around who's also loved/is a pony of love? Also if Celestia did managed to tame/beat Nightmare Moon, that leaves Discord who is shown to warp folks minds and such.
Let's not forget time warping can actually even change the order of events too so... ye.
(I know this is late. Saw the videos in reversed order.)
Hello if you see this Sawtooth i was hoping someday you could do a video on the ponies' sizes. like how twilight became really tall as ruler while the other 5 didn't?
Sawtooth Waves. Watch the Last Problemm episode again. Pause right when you are in the hallway. There is a stained gleass at the very end of the screen. In it we see a tail. A bushy, curly, pink and purple tail. Sweetie Belle's tail. That's right. The CMC do something significant in thetime between thelast 2 episodes. Could you make a video on that
I think that the plan could have work the same way but Chrysalis would have known about Twilight and Cadence's relationship considering the fact that Twilight most likely never would have left Canterlot if she wasn't told to leave by Celestia. Mainly because Twilight was being full sets before she got her cutie mark.
1 I was full on board with their theory and thought the exact same thing until I saw the pinned comment... and 2 I love the enby flag in your profile picture!
firstly, love your new pfp for pride month secondly, in the comics, (#12 i think) they cover how shining and cadence met, they met through high school and cadence became twilight's foal sitter from there
I really don't understand why someone would waste their time on made-up theories and what-if scenarios based on a children's cartoon when they should prepare themselves for the trials and tribulations that come with being none-binary. Despite the more positive attitudes towards the LGBTQ+ community, there will always be people who have no qualms with using violence and shaming to express their hatred towards said community. I'd spend less time on projects in a dying shell of a fandom, and focus more on surviving the fallout that comes with being none-binary. I've made my disdain towards the Brony community clear, but let be said that I support the LGBTQ+ community. Love is pure and boundless, but it must endure the storm before it sees the rainbow.
I take it this is another point where the comics contradict the show canon? After all, in the comics, Shining and Cadence met in high school, which was around the time she began to foalsit Twilight. At the same time, though, without Twilight's high honor garnered from the Rainboom, would Cadence have taken any interest in foalsitting Twilight?
in the comics cadence and shining armor met in school, the reason she became twilight's foalsitter is because she wanted to get closer to shining armor
I love your thoughts about your theory of Candace how ever I'm still confusing 🤔 I want you make a video that time travel to the past to what happen I CAN'T WAIT 😊
Random thought. Why does Shining Armor's uniform have a saddle? Even as a decorative flourish, it implies knowledge of horses as transportation for other animals. It wouldn't have been invented purely as an ornament. Is this a memory from before Equestria? Were the worlds of Equestria and EG originally one world, dominated by humans, before a magical accident stripped magic from EG while transforming the people to ponies in the world that split off from the original? Enquiring minds want to know!
If starlight did stop the rain boom, she may have impersonated twilight. Because chrysalis would of sensed the anger in twi, they joined forces, then chrysalis would of sensed the power in twi, then helped her to get the power out and twi used it to get her revenge and chrysalis would be in twilights position and right when everyone is cornered, one of them is also the villain. Twilight would of used her power to take away personalities from other ponies as her own so others don’t judge her. This is also a sequel to when starlight tried to stop the rain-boom. Twilight saw this world with spike and it was the first they saw. The changelings took over equestria, then twilight sucked up all the ponies personalities but they still had the talents so their cutie marks were fine. This actually sounds accurate too.
Finally someone brought it up! They went to the same school and Shining had a crush on Cadence there. I feel like that puts this theory of them never meeting into question.
Does anyone else wonder why cadence was the only other alicorn ruling alongside Celestia until twilight freed Luna? Celestia must have been very lonely all that time, seeing all her friends grow old and die without her. And to think, of all the time there was NOT another alicorn/prodigy?
I think that Princess Celestia was too afraid to have another alicorn around, in case they would go sour like Luna did. Because if her own sister could turn against her, then why wouldn't anyone else?
BUT Nightmare Moon's banishment was coming to an end. And Celestia would have needed some help. Hence why she may have opened the school, to find someone who was strong enough to help her fight Nightmare Moon again. And in that time she found Cadence. And although Cadence isn't necessarily strong with magic, her ability to quell arguments with love gave Celestia hope, that she might be the key to bring Luna back. Hence imortalizing her as an alicorn so that she has a better footing against Nightmare Moon.
Although she had found her pony to help bring down Nightmare Moon, she kept the school open anyways, seeing how great it was for everyone, and well.. just in case.
And then Twilight showed up, baring the cutie mark of the Tree of Harmony. She would have known instantly that it would have been Twilight's job to bring harmony to Equestria. And seeing how Twilight needed a lesson in love and friendship, she was sent to Ponyville to throw her out of her normal and make new friends. (To also better value Nightmare Moon's life, and to also understand her at a better level.. of being alone.) Also note that Ponyville is right next to the Tree of Harmony and the old castle. Celestia literally set up Twilight to have the best fighting chance against Nightmare Moon. (Although Twilight was sent there a little too late for my comfort.)
It also always bothered me just how calm Celestia seemed about the entire thing. But realizing that Cadence could have handled Nightmare Moon with her Love magic, made me realize that Celestia had more than one plan at her ready. And it just so happens that plan A succeeded
hey, a few days late but I think I have something that could possible poke some holes in your theory, although it's from the comics so I don't know exactly how canon it is. Either way, in the comic "Neigh Anything", we get the backstory of how Shining and Cadence got together, and we see that Shining had a crush on Cadence LONG before she started babysitting Twilight, and how they got together hardly had anything to do with Twilight. Then again, this is all from the comics and should be taken with a grain of salt, but I think it's an important detail nonetheless
What If this is about Starlight defeating Chrysalis the second time? The mane 6 never meat, so Starlight was never reformed and never defeated Chrysalis.
Although that would not make sense because Starlight also would have never gone back in time to stop the rainboom. But when you think about it, then the whole episode doesn't make sense.
I wonder why in the one episode when starlight traveled back in time twilight still had wings when starlight sent her back to a different future she still had wings because she only became a princess when she had her friends It's like it's meant to be
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Adrian Gonzalez2021-06-08 18:35:38 (edited 2021-06-08 18:37:28 )
Also can you make a theory about how celestia could raise the moon with her sun magic. And also how Luna was freed even though celestia said she would be in the moon “permanently” but the prophecy said they would that the stars would aid in her escape.
I think you were right about there not being a wedding. Just the Way you got there is wrong. As mentioned by other comments, Twilight knew Cadence before becoming Celestia’s student, as shown by the lack of a cutie mark in the Flashback in Canterlot Wedding Part 1.
The reason they never married, is because of Nightmare Moon, she never would’ve allowed this, because that would’ve taken appreciation away from her, the sole reason she tried to kill Celestia.
The Nightmare Moon and Chrysalis timelines are probably separated by a War of some kind, in which given the Timeline, either side won said war. That doesn’t entirely explain the day and night cycle being back in the Chrysalis timeline, but I would assume Celestia would still be around in some way, and would’ve started moving the Sun and Moon again, even after Nightmare Moon had fallen.
Your Opinion’s? For anyone who comes back to old Episodes?
You should make a video about what would happen if they all ran out of names. Like would they make up new words and weird combinations of names or reuse old names?
I thought this would be about the MLP comic about them being in highschool / college together (although that might be an alternative history with some comics being 'cannon' vs not)
random thought. when starlight prevented the rainboom and twilight went to the differnet timelines she saw some of her friends in those timelines. why did her friends have the same cutie marks if the rainboom was prevented?
If you read the comics that hasbro made it actually has the story of how Cadence and shining met. Apparently they went to highschool together? It’s a weird story but interesting.
What about the comics?? Shining and Cadence met in "high school" and ended up dating, that's their origin. They've even done a themed event about it in the official MLP game.
I just found out that you're non-binary and that's so cool!!! Glad to know another non-binary person!! :3! Also I'm excited for the next ep of this hehe!!
What twilight said " not only your ruining our friendship your ruining every pony else " something similar to what she said that so without the rainboom they cant get together. There love and frienship is still on the timeline without them history is different
Didn't twilights friends convinced twilight to go to the wedding tho? And in the bad timeline, chrysalis probably would of done the same plan but wouldn't have twilight in her way. So all this time cadence would of been stuck in a prison forever because twilight was the one that found cadence and helped cadence escaped by that light they found.
Hey Sawtooth, I don't know if you have done this before but you should make a video on your human world self. Since we know what you look like as a pony and as a changling but we don't know what you look like as a human if you crossed through the portal... Don't mind my spellings...
Well the comics are not completely canon for the series 😅, and if they were canon maybe there would be another way they never got together or maybe it could be that they broke up or something 🤔
@✿GJG STUDIOS✿ yeah I'm not sure which comics are cannon and which are set in a alternate universe equestria. I know that in season 10 discord reference something from a earlier comic
@Renamon 565 Yes but discord is discord If you know what I mean😅, but it is unknown if the Shining and Cadence comic is canon (I think it's almost canon in some parts) I only know that the comic of season 10 is technically canon
@Ayati :The Rock star Incorrect. The comics have always been canon, except for maybe like, 2 arcs like Reflections and Siege of the Crystal Empire which have been retconned by the show - but even so, fans have come up with excellent theories to reconcile both versions. So in a way, these retconned comics are canon too if you choose to believe so.
@Daydream Sparkle well i think i think the sombra and radiant hope arc aren't canon seeing how we never see or mention reform king sombra ever again in the comics. I'm not sure if the nightmare rarity arc is cannon either nut we did see a cameo of her in the cosmos arc
@Jokerlyzer Media yeah but not in the show. Also sombra and hope went to bring back princess amore by trying to find all her statue pieces but i think that plot is forgotten seeing how that comic was like 50+ issues ago
@Daydream Sparkle in the legend of magic annual special you can see lots of mirrors made by starswirll that leads to alternate equestrias. I believe the mirrors lead to all the of comics that aren't cannon
HI!! I'm A New Subscriber! the video is amazing! and maybe Cadence And Shining met and had a chat and after a few days they told twilight that and chrisalis heard and she chose to take over.
Hey sawtooth this is what I'm thinking,what if cryslis changed to one of the mane 6?I saw the pinned comment so they would meet (shining and cadence) .but if shining and cadence try to get married.so chrysalis was twi?she made the two not get married.then she revealed herself but.. shining and cadence stopped the wedding already so chrysalis won,but here's what helps what about zecora maybe cryslis invaded ponyville too? Then there's where it ends.if you support this comment then thx!
I don’t think when Starlight changed the past and stopped the Sonic Rainboom I don’t think it affected Cadence and Shining Armor’s love for each other because if you look closely at Twilight and Cadence’s memories Twilight didn’t have her cutie mark so Shining and Cadence already knew each other
Maybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into pony's futures
Hey could you make a theory on why some ponys have flowing manes. It seems to be powerful unicorns/alicorns. But then why doesn't starswirl or starlight not have wavy hair? A list of wavy haired characters are. Celestia Luna Mistmane Older Twilight Sombra Nightmare moon Cadence in the S2 finale climax/resolution. Twilight in the S4 finale when she gets the magic at the beginning and when she raised the sun. There might be more but I don't know.
I think the comic might be cannon but I believe shining armor and Cadence went to the same school which was why they met. I still don't know though why Cadence then became twilights foal sitter. Other than celestia wanted her to get a job or something. But maybe the reason why twilight wouldn't have noticed is because she needed more to go off of and without her friends less mistakes would have been made as other ponies would have made the dresses, cakes and other stuff. So maybe Twilight would have realised too late and then Chrysalis could have succeeded.
speaking of butterflies, Fluttershy seems to have some power over some of the mane six having been the only one who Discord forcefully had to corrupt unlike the others, who were corrupted on their own.
That was all very interesting, but Twilight didn't have her cutie mark when she met Princess Cadence. This fact puts your theory under question. Go and check out in the episodes)
acutually, the mane 6 did make a difference..... they were queen chrilis's (cadence) new bridesmaids and her old bridesmaids were made to stop the real cadence and twilight
This came to my head but What if chrysalis took twilight and used her to lure in Cadence and Shining armor then capturing them and darning all threes magic this made Celestia worried and sent Royal guards to rescue them but they failed but she kept sending more after she saw they weren't able to rescue them she went and faced her but as unsuccessful too and her magic was drained and this is what have caused Chrysalis to rule over Equestria.
Although not 100% canon, the mlp comic series says that Shinning met Cadance at school and that he recommended her to be Twilight's babysitter so he could get closer to her since he had fallen in love.
First of all I think Twighlight was still a student in the school she just wasn't Celestia's personal protechae.
Now Celestia would probably be away from canterlot for this to work and I'm guessing this happened near S1 in dragon shy.
Celestia would deal with the smoke on her own and succeeded Until Chrysalis and her army attacked her and put her in that coucoun.
Then all she needed to do would be to take over canterlot. (Cadence would probably be in the caves an Luna would try fighting and Probably loose)
When Chrysalis attacked I think Celestia's school would hide in the castle. When Chrysalis attacks the castle and tries to hurt everyone I think Twighlight would face her and put up a decent fight. Then the rest of the school of Magic would help but ultimately Fail.
Maybe cadence and shining armor would still get married and have Chrysalis try to take over.During the wedding Luna isn't there so Chrysalis could have Kidnapped her and used her to capture Celestia and all the other powerful pony's.
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Ryan Lukkarinen2021-06-05 03:47:54 (edited 2021-06-18 14:58:16 )
Hate to break this to you man, but the comics revealed that shining armor and cadance met in high school and cadance took the foal sitting job to learn more about him from twilight. Twilight still would've been a student if she failed the test, just a less important one, status had nothing to do with it, so the family still would've stayed in the same place. Of course, if you don't believe the comics to be canon, (even though they totally are), that's your opinion. But to me, this theory is flat out false. I recommend you check out a video from 2016 by dragon trainer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0, he presents a much more likely theory. Edit: sorry if I sounded insulting, you’re a great theorizer
I haven’t watched MLP for the longest time, but I can’t let this channel go. These theories are still great, man, and they always leave me gobsmacked, or something like that. Also congrats to Sawtooth for coming out!!! I’m nb as well, so it’s really cool to see that a creator I’ve looked up to for so long shares that identity. Happy pride everyone!
@Sawtooth Waves what if that last time line in the Starlight episode was twilights doing. Because in that time line the rainboom wouldn't happen because of which twily's magic wouldn't go hay wire and celestia would never notice her raw abilities. She would still get her cutie mark but a dark version of it because celestia was the reason she would learn to control her abilities and with both celestia her magic would go hay wire.
I personally see only 2 outcomes to this:
Either she meets zecora and zecora helps her tame her abilities and gets her prober cutie mark
Or she practices magic her self like sunburst except he had a little guidance from celestia while she had none. Her magic would be every where and would probably hurt others even though she doesn't wanna do it that is when she gets the dark version of her cutie mark. From there she eventually gives up on resisting her destiny and gives in. Eventually she over throws everyone and ends up becoming a dark alicorn. Her battle with celestia was legendary but in the end. The magical imbalance caused destroys the world and everyone with it.
@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video about if 🦄s can use their magic to regrow their broken horns! Or what happens if a 🦄’s horn brakes, will it die? 🤔 about it.
Now I can guess that celestial was still a princess cause she and Luna ruled together. And stayed a princess in honor of lunas memory. But why isn’t twilight a queen. It looks like she rules alone. We know kings exist in canon cause king sombra
Problem with the Theory tho Twilight didn't had a cutie mark when Cadence was her foalsitter. Which means it was before her exams since she got it as a result of the exams.
But sawtooth I noticed in the pictures of twilight and cadence when twilight was a filly she never had her cutie mark ! Sooooo…. That means the royal wedding could’ve happened but chrysalis still would’ve been defeated but flurry heart wouldn’t have been born because twilight and her friends righted the changelings ,together and without twilight and her friends flurry wouldn’t have existed and yes the crystal would be back but twilight never became a princess
Please make a video on how age works because sunset went into the portal before twilight was going to celestial's school (twilight got in when she was just a filly) yet they were both in the same grade at canterlot high. im so confused help.
I agree with you on everything but when twilight was still little she didn’t have her cutie mark when cadence was foal sitting her you can even go to season two episode 25 for proof
the sonic raimboom gave the mane 6 their cutiemarks. twilight would of never gotten that spell correctly, meaning her magic probably wouldn't of been as good as it was, so twilight wouldn't be able to freeze or whatever she did to cadence
Twilight wouldn't be able to to stop queen Chrysalis,she would have just acted as the rest of the mane 6,Twilight was able to recognize her strange behaviour because Cadance use to be Twilight's foalsitter.
Actually Chrysalis would have won because if Twilight wasn't there then she wouldn't have been found and then Cadence wouldn't have gotten the idea to escape like that and she wouldn't be able to break free of the thingy that was holding her on the ground
Actually cadance foalsitted twilight before the Sonic rainboom as u can see during Twilight's flashback of cadance she didn't have her cutie mark and we can see that during their sunshine song or whatever she didn't have her cutie mark. Anyways very good theory also can you read my comments with ideas on the videos before this one.
Hm but if you notice, twilight was being foalsat before she got her cutie mark, meaning she and cadance met even before the rainboom happened and she got accepted into Celestia's school. So maybe cadance being her foalsitter may not be linked to the rainboom after all?
He is just trying to get rid of you Sawtooth Waves. Think of what a powerful Chrysalis could do on finding you, a changeling from a different universe...
look at cadances cutie mark when she holds the heart on the eposide crestaly empire ep 2 and close to the end when ses holding the crestal heart her mrak glows!
I just watched this video a few days ago I think I looked at your pfp I was like wait a minute I support your non binary and btw I'm bisexual happy pride month
Apart from the ruler of The crystal empire Twilight wasn’t the first Alicorn Remember that episode where in clouds well Rainbow Dash Need extra support But flatter shy was too quiet TwilightTurned Rarat In to an alicorn Before she was turned 😱😱😱😱😱
Hmm😐remember during the timeline,Twilight ended up in a world with zacora in a battle with chrysalis ,THINK HARD,it may lead to how chrysalis took over Equestria
I got you a really interesting video idea, sodor is ran by engines, with face and talk, thomas the tank engine descover the magic railroad, so, theoretically would thomas be able to go to equestria, if they could share the same universe, and would thomas become a pony if he himself went through
What if the Villain of the MLP G5 is Grogar, Because in the G4 Magic had stopped and there is a chance that Grogar was freed but if he wasn't then why not now because by the looks of it there's no magic so doesn't that mean there's nothing holding Grogar down or imprison?
I just thought of something idk if you've made a video talking about this but the egg twilight had to hatch (spike) where did the egg come from? At the time the dragons and ponies didn't get along so did they steal the egg? Was the egg artificially made by celestia? And did every pony have to hatch ab egg to get into celestia's school? And if they did where did all the baby dragons go?
If anyone knows any of these answers or if some of this was answered in the show and I missed it could you please leave a comment? XD I watched the series twice but watching this video just now made me wonder just how that all happened and what they do woth the unmatched and even hatched eggs because not every Pony who attended the school of magic had a dragon from what I recall only twilight did.
Hold up first of all twilight met the real cadence right yes well then she used her magic to break the rock to find her to try and stop the fake one but if she had her magic why not use her magic to escape than finding out a way
No. Even if they were a couple in alt timeline. No wedding cuz of nightmare moon. They might be trying to fight her back at the time, no wedding. Or she did something to cadence so there is only 1 princess
But in all the flashbacks of young cadence and twilight Sparkle together. Twilight Sparkle never has her Cutie Mark and Twilight only gets her cutie mark after she passes the test for magic school.
Adding on to all of the disproving in the comments I can disprove it with (drum roll...) THE MLP COMICS!!!!!!! One of the Three comics explains how they meet.
Isnt there a whole Comic About this entire Thing? Its A comic called Neigh Anything, Where Shining A DND Lover and Cadence meet and They both Figure out they are meant for each other and start dating at the Ball at the end of the comic
WHERE THE HECK IS THE NEXT VIDEO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ALL WEEK (great videos by the way I love them I’m surprised you have not reached 9000000000000000 already like that makes about as much sense as bees not dying when they sting you so no sense at all)
THIS WHOLE THEORY IS WRONG SAWTOOTH. WHen Twilight had the flashback Twilight had a blank flank I saw it with my own eyes so they could have met before and the wedding would have still happened
In the pictures you showed us of cadence and Twilight she had no cutie Mark but the But when the rainbow really happened Twilight had a cutie Mark because of it but that means kittens with her false it before her cutie Mark which means Christmas probably would have the same plan
But twilight had no cutie mack ( at least I think) but I think cadice could have been her full sitter when shining armor became a gard because he couldn't watch her. They could have still keeped in touch since twilight had Celestia. Nm moon would have won but the Cristal empire might try to take NM moon down, since their busy with that, queen crisles could attack the ce (Cristal empire) slowly getting love and power, then they attack the last princess.
Are you non binary. I'm asking because of your profile with the NB flag. I'm genderfluid between female non binary and agender. Today I was non binary also I love all your vids ❤️
Sawtooth I have a theory I know you said sunset shimmer might be sunburst sister but if you look at sunset shimmers cutie mark it looks like celestia’s but with half red is she related to celestia?
Here is a new theory what if there was a 3 sister of the stars because the sun is a star so what could it be in MLP so basically a video idea is looking on what stars are in mlp (and also you mentioned some people thought there was a system of the stars in your grogare releasing nightmare moon video but technically that’s not possible because the sun is a star but at the same time we would have to go in there to see with stars planets and other planetary objects are in MLP
Dude I have the comics so how Cadance and Shining Armor met they were in high school or college and they met each other and Shining Armor fell in love and sang a song about how he loved “pretty pink mares with colorful hair” and blah and blah and BOOM! Season 2 they got married
(Gasp) one hour? I can’t believe how late I am. I have been waiting for a video for ages and I am late? Oh, I look away for a moment and this happened.
Actually another Bronie made a Theory about how every Timeline could happen and in my Opinion it makes total sense. You shouöd check it out for you Theory: https://youtu.be/SfLM4gLikg0
If I hadn’t had to go to school I would have seen your video right as it came outAlso this is the first time I’ve commented on one of your videos I like your theories
Good theory but didn’t twilight get her cutie mark after the rainboom? That being said all the clips of twilight being foal sitted by cadence she doesn’t have her cutie mark
Wait a second, if the rainboom hadn't happened then SPIKE WOULDNT BE THERE EITHER. Spike's egg hatched because of the boost from the rainboom. Without it his egg wouldn't hatch
I liked your idea Sawtooth, but you are wrong. If you look closely, you will see that Twilight was a blank-flank when she had Cadanse as her foal-sitter. No Sonick-Rainbom required.😉😉😉
It's really, solid but the pinned comment does ruin it a bit. So maybe instead of how Cadance and Shining armor met, it's Cadance and Twilight? Or how the family met Cadence?
I think this theory is WRONG! I re-watch the series so many times and I noticed that twilight was a BLANK-FLANK DURING HERE TIME WITH CADENCE!!!!!! (Plz don't ask why I'm writing this comment now. I also re-watch Sawtooth's vids 100 times.)
I just realized that the flim flam alternate reality thing is because apple jack didn’t go back to the farm. So Granny Smith and Big Mac couldn’t keep the farm going by themselves
But, Twi don't have her cutie mark in flashbacks, and if mane six have never met, and have no cutie mark, that's mean chrysalis can take over easily, she just have to get rid of Celestia and Luna, wait...if there is no mane six it means there is no Luna so, what do you think, does all the villians United as one or did they have fight? For Equestria,? I mean Nightmare Moon wanted to rule Equestria alone, becuz she was jealous of Celestia, but Chrysalis wanted food for her subjects, tirek wanted all the magic, discord wait discord was never reformed!!! And he wanted to change equestria into a chaos, right?? So, maybe... don't think but maybe... If mane six aren't there,.. that means...there is no Equestria (don't forget storm king) Edit: that's mean there is no sombra?? But if there is no Cadance and Shining, that's mean there is no Crystal Empire and if there is no Crystal Empire that's mean there is no Sombra!!?
Hello I am starting my own mlp theories and celestial and luna were born alicorns you said that the shows creator said luna and celestia were born alicorns maybe their parents wanted them to have a normal childhood so they had star swirl hide their wings. also pls give the credit to Valkyrie
Ever heard of Twilight glimmer Pony that was pissed at Twilight for ruining her plans and she bailed Revenge what if this is her revenge setting the past backwards
Yooo, you're nb? I know you're probably getting a lot of comments but, that's rlly cool to me! I'm trans/genderqueer (also they/them). Idk, I used to watch your vids a while back and it's just cool to me :D
That means flurry heart never exists.... If crystalis was a royal before hand she would've met king sombra who was assumed to be the previous king of the unicorn tribe during star swirl and the pillars of light so I'm assuming she got sombras help and they ruled together and she did the dirty work for him as a mistress since woman or mares were probably given the same old "mares belong in the house" talk as fillies and she would've used sombras control helmets used as subtle things like jewelry and gemstones to control other ponies like the crystal ponies who would be depressed af when Crysalis takes over and where are the windigos?
Well this is a big step now let's see how you find out about this one like one of my members of team servant dancers in chrysalis part you may ask werecat
uh... maybe just maybe since twilight didn't become celestia's student shining armor didn't become a royal guard? Thus preventing the two spouses from ever meeting? Again just Maybe also someone comment if i missed something
I have a theory that all these bad things are happening becouse of twilight as if she was never there or anyone the queen's would have fought and then Twilight's baby sitter would become queen of equestria then things would be perfect
In my dream I was transported to the dimension where chrysalis took over equestria and I was badly injured by novamos and he died by me kicked novamos into the closing portal and his headless body in are world now and novamos head in that dimension and I was able to get up but can't walk or move entirely and nameless I fix the bit and both you and flurry heart have dimensional magic now and I was knocked out and woke up in a fortress and holy cow this things bigger than any castle and I was under repair by changlings and chrysalis was shocked and saw me wake up and was asking a question of what happened and I explained about novamos me and you sawtooth showed up body slaming some scathulding and you were surprised about what happened and found a gravestone of my name and chrysalis said she and in this dimension both of us was female anyways died by getting killed by novamos from my world and crushing her heart and ended by apex ( from are world) showed up and doing recon and died by my plasma caster to the chest and I was nearly done repaired a 1 problem my legs are all sorts of messed up and heres the thing this dimension goalius didn't die but swapped deaths with novamos friend the devil gundam and this dimension goalius named giyanus was the castle i was getting repaired and we trade resources and she my sister
I just finished season 8 of Mlp on Netflix but I cant seem to find the 9th season on Netflix but google said it would be on Netflix?😕 So anyways I was wondering if someone could tell me where I can watch the 9th season for free? Thanks I would appreciate it a lot! 😅
I mean we saw cadance being twilights babysitter before twilight had her cutie mark. And I think cadence wasn’t even a unicorn then. So maybe it was just coincidence that they both happen to become princesses
@Sawtooth Waves yeah idk I just remember one of her lines being “I’m not used to flying” or “I’m out of practice” or something. And everyone was like. Cadance you were born a Pegasus what do you mean
Did u all know that rainbow dash should be the new alicorn princess instead of twilight because if the rain boom didn’t happen twilight would have never met her friends or save the world from nightmare moon in the first place so it’s rainbow dash who saved the world and has to be crowned alicorn princess who is with me in this theory
Twilight found a way to stop Twilight Glimmer from causing a big mess so none of this even needs to be worried about just get on with this please I don't need you acting like Doctor Who
Sawtooth waves I have a question for you is princess amore cadences mother I have some evidence that might mean that amore is her mom. 1.every family has the same last name like princess amore and Me AMORE cadenza see the AMORE .2. Princess amore has pink and purple hair princess cadence had pink and purple hair to but I still dont know why she has some yellow streaks maybe she dyed her hair yellow to remember BLUE blood. Last evidence if princess amore is cadences mother then that can also lead to other possibilities for princess celestia and Luna so cadence has amore as her mom celestia and Luna have queen galaxia and Queen Novo the hippogriff has Queen Cora as her mom right?????I'll leave you to answer it.
I am christian and found out that sawtooth used to be too Im not here to argue or fight but just to say I really hope you come back to Christ bc he is amazing when yo get to know him. But if not enjoy your life to the fullest I guess. BTW I've been watching you for probably more than 2 years now
I know this video is old but I'll say this anyways. There is a comic that explains how they met so I don't know if this video is that relevant. The comic is from 2013 so it definitely didn't come out after this video. If anyone is wondering what I'm talking about it's issues 11 and 12 of the MLP Friendship is magic comic books
Video request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
Hey, I saw you on the “oh, f*** you, Luigi!” comment section. Been a while since I saw you anywhere. Was quite unexpected. Your profile picture was a wonderful surprise, especially as a fellow nb!
In my theory is that Chystalist only came to Canterlot to feed for babies, if she ever wanted to take over then why only Canterlot? She’ve could’ve came to a different place and take over from there, but she only came to Canterlot, one princess was captured, why not capture all? She only wanted Shining Armor’s love to feed her babies
I have a question, What abt unicorn's magic? why are they different colors? Does it really matters? what about StarLight's magic when she got mad? (I don't remember what season was this)
she had something like a red magic
is it just your oc thats nonbinary or are you nonbinary too? if so thats cool, and I hope this isn't personal but when did you realise? I realized at around 6ish years old :D
ok so in the pinned comment it is pointed out that twilight didnt have a cutie mark in the flashback and you were reeling from not noticing this and now i shall point out another thing you didnt notice: as you said int he beginnng Twilight freed cadence and she did the love boom thing AS YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING TWILIGHT FREED CADENCE AND SHE DID THE LOVE THING in this alternet timeline twilight was not a VIP student hence she wasnt sent to ponyvillie hence she was in canterlot and hence she probobly knew about cadences and shinning armors relaytionship so im theorysing that either twilight was sent to the chamber unable to escape because she wasnt tought about magic by celestia or she was tricked by crysalys pretending to be cadence and was killed this would also explain the absence of a alternet timeline twilight in this timeline and if you think about it.. twilight not getting professional lessons by celestia / not becomeing a element would also explain twilights absence in the other timelines she was in canterlot or... was saddly dead due to not being powerfull enuff to defend herself plese tell me what you think about my theory/me pointing out another inconsistency in your theory i spent a whie typeing this so i hope its actully seen XD
0:32 is when sawtooth says twilight frees cadence long enuff to fight crysalyss ... she even used magic witch supports the theory that twilight wasnt as strong or trained magic wise in the other timeline !
Maybe Twilight didn't want to go to the wedding because " her studies " their for chrysalis would because Twilight would not be able or be there to free.... cadence would be dead.......welp theirs the answer for you
your theory is good but is have a hole on it, Cadance do meet Twilight before she past her test, she meet Twilight and Shining before Twilight have her cutie magic, she baby sitting her and many other foal, She say her self, she love baby sitting her the most, how many foal she baby sitting is unknow, and really asking Chrysalis?
Can you make a video about twilight sparkle more specifically about twilight as a princess so she is going to be immortal and her friends aren’t going to be there and in the future we didn’t see Granny Smith so is it the Royal sisters didn’t think about it
It makes sense untill one comment ruin your whole video with a good proof and you miss it. It become more complicated now. I hope this time you can use 100% of your brain to find the true theory
My opinion, I think Cadance became Twilight's foalsitter since she still a unicorn and before she become a princess. Because of her love to Twilight so Celestia decided to make it as an Alicorn. I think Shining Armor and Cadance just school at the same place and known each other
What if everybody has said that shining has met well not a little bit but Coco the dragon loves that but what if we do another video about ponies and others too and why the princess was he lost her 🐴🦄🦓(◍•🐉❤ Crystal was manage because it was not
student 6 would not even exist if the Rainboom haven't happened it was because the man 6 thorax was reformed and the other changelings reformed because of the Mane 6 and because of the Mane 6 the yaks became friends with the ponies and because of two of the main six befriended Grandpa graph AKA Griffin none of of the student 6 would have met if it wasn't for the Mane 6 well now the main 7
"Remove the mane six and they aren't needed " TRIGGERED because you were removing the 5 not all six also that would be really sad if shining didn't invite her sister
if Twilight was not pass in her exam and shining armor never marry the princess so there alcron child will never boran so the villain would eat the Cristal heart easily and in one episode twilight had stop luna to be nightmare moon and if she never been a princess the place would be of nightmare moon that make clear sense wait but if she fail in her exam she didn't get her cut mark the main 5 never got there cut mark but twilight can study again and do her exam and pass and rainbow dash and fluttershy are friends so that rainbow dash and fluttershy can do agian and rainbow dash try again main 6 get there cut mark so every time line is same !
This has nothing to do with today's vid but I was watching mlp s8 e5, grannies gone wild, and 6 min and 21 sec in when the arrive at the hotel there is a male alicorn, pls explain
I know what happened the princess amore the first ruler of the crystal empire look at cadence name princess me amore ray cadenza AMORE the word amore is the name of the first ruler of the crystal empire i think cadence is related to princess amore it could be possible princess amore is cadence mom.😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯
Chrysalis took over are Questria because shining armour was holding a protection spell the protection spell Christmas easily took over a Questria ha ha ha ha hello lovely black
Wait how come does your old pfp on this video still show up but the comments you make,other video and main home page has your new one-? Is it a new update??
Hay question if you already did this don’t worry but If you were a unicorn and you only got Pegasus magic or if you were a Pegasus and you only get unicorn magic same thing with the earth ponies what do you be a pegacorn? Because you have unicorn and Pegasus magic and would that work with Earth ponies if you already did a video about this can somebody send me the link and if not can you make a video about that Sawtooth waves?
I put my theory on the website I didn’t make a YouTube video on it so it was this exact same thing besides the nameless one being in it did you copy my Theory it’s fine if you did nobody looks at my theories
Also I hope that all that is spelled right because I’m bad at typing and I don’t know how to spell almost any of these words so I used auto correct OK bye for real now
@Sawtooth Waves "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Romans 1: 21 kjv
neither were thankful
Being ungrateful is the root of the identity crisis in the world.
@Amber Slahlize i'm thankful for my identity. i know you're trying to help and i appreciate the thought but i've thought everything through and i'm comfortable. many christians recognize that gender identity isn't black and white, and god is capable of creating so much more
Hey i love this theory but one problem. If you look back at s2 e25 during twilughts flash back Twilight had NO CUTIE MARK during her flash back with Cadence
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141 likes@Sawtooth Waves :o
114 likes@Sawtooth Waves do you have discord i love to talk to you about that time line though
167 likesegg. on my face. the entire premise of the video- oh my god I'm reeling, how could this happen, the room is spinning-
946 likesYou just killed Sawtooth
662 likes@Spritezz pfff lol
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Sawtooth you messed up...
@Sawtooth Waves oh no guys i broke Sawtooth
377 likesin conclusion, im deleting my channel
631 likes@Adam Wood Studios what have you done-
128 likes@Sawtooth Waves I think u are broken 😐
72 likes@Sawtooth Waves we seem similar
69 likesI say i- every 2 seconds
Also are you o k a y 👀
thought the exact same thing
29 likes@Sawtooth Waves no dont ;3;
66 likes@Sawtooth Waves Pinkie Pie (eg)- What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
35 likeswow.
17 likes@GVD guys i dont think hes gonna actually do it
38 likes@Sawtooth Waves yo, just to make you feel better, i have another theory for you. Because of the lack of cutie mark, Celestia eventually recalled her niece from being Twilight's foalsitter because she only seek those who deserve to be the fourth princess of Equestria and have tasked Cadance to foalsitted the destined child until their adultness. Because Twilight wasn't the destined child, Cadance and Shining never had a close relationship and thus, they never married. Hopefully this will help you😉
239 likes@Naomi Dreamz delete the channel??
15 likesWow I didn’t notice that your right but still what happened to Cadence and shining armor when Chrysalis took over? What were they doing and where were they at?
78 likesUm well i think this theory is now broken. Sorry Sawtooth. =(
17 likesGreat Job @Adam Wood Studios , you pulled a flurry heart and broke Sawtooth.
29 likes@Sawtooth Waves Wait, think about it. Cadence didn't have royal duties and her taking the responsibility of watching a foal was pure chance of meeting Shining Armor. If she didn't baby sit Twilight, then Chrysalis would be able to take over because her and Shining Armor never met
37 likes@Hiccy69 thank you but this would mean twi was on celestia's radar before the rainboom. possible i suppose? heck i was so proud of this theory too
191 likes@Adam Wood Studios They have a Discord, but you have to be a Patreon member to access it.
15 likesNone of the main six have their cutemarks also they all got them because of the sonic rain boom sorry if i spell wrong just had a test killed too much brain cells
11 likes@Sawtooth Waves well, let's just say that Celestia wasn't even aware of a pony who can literally travel through time and change the whole history as she knows it. Because of Starlight's intervention, Celestia was forced to search for another filly that is capable enough to be the fourth princess. Just don't give up dude. You are the good side of the MLP community, and we couldn't bear to lose you, given how rotten and degenerate the community is right now.
32 likes@Sawtooth Waves How could you miss this? The episode features numerous screenshots of filly Twilight with Cadance, without cutie mark.
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves pat's back it's ok 😔
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves Let’s fix the issue. Cadence foalsat Twilight before getting her cutie mark, yes. But after Twilight started attending Celestia’s school, she would have been away from home more often and Cadence would’ve foalsat her more. Princess Cadence and Shining Armor still would’ve known each other, but not well enough to fall in love and get married.
47 likes@OrkTv how I didn't notice such a glaring issue during the entire production of this, will forever evade me. if you need me I'll be off the grid, reclusing in the woods and living off the land
119 likes@Sawtooth Waves What! U can’t delete ur channel. Anything but that!
13 likes@Sawtooth Waves the legend is broken guys
32 likesTime to create a new Sawtooth.
These comments are hilarious
24 likesIf this isn't featured in the next video, I'm done 😂
26 likesYeah, aside from Adam’s observation, even without the foalsitting, Shining had always had a crush on Cadance and made that known at their school. Cadance found it charming and through a series of events she ends up developing at the very least an interest in him if not feelings for him also. She would just need a way to work around the rest of the student body to get to him since she’s always in the spotlight as a princess. She wouldn’t have necessarily needed the Twilight connection (this background is from the comics and I am WAY oversimplifying it).
15 likes@Sawtooth WavesWhat if Cadence, there Princess of Love and maybe daughter of a love potion bond, was foalsitting multiple foals to help her recover and Twilight was just one of them?
14 likes@Sawtooth Waves Just update the description or delete the video.
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves could you do a video about the Storm King
3 likesMaybe it was before she got enrolled in magic school?
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2 likes@Sawtooth Waves you didn't think about that did you no part 2 now 😂
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves I have a theory that might help you and I'm going to bring up a question that has been bothering me for a while.
21 likesWhen Twilight recieves the letter from that Shining Armour and Cadence was getting married, it seemed like she didn't know that he was dating someone in the first place. If Twilight and Shining Armour were that close, how come Shining didn't tell Twilight that he was dating Cadence? Like did his parents even know he was dating? It brings up a question to as how LONG they've been together. If it was anything more than 1 year, wouldn't the family been told they were dating? It boggles my mind that the last memory of Cadence from Twilight was her as a foalsitter and nothing more "recent" if Shining did tell his family about her.
The only conclusions I can come up with are:
1. It was very confidential and they couldn't tell anyone and/or parents only (Cause Cadence is royalty and Shining is the Head of the Royal Guards which makes their positions very vulnerable and couldn't tell anyone until the Wedding (end of season 2 episodes) and this would mean they started dating in adulthood, not in their teenage years before their careers. Otherwise, surely the family would've known they were dating to some degree.
2. They met recently before the Wedding and suddenly got married.
And may I point out the wedding preparation took place in a matter of days to prepare, unlike Frankie's and Matilda's wedding which doesn't seemed rushed (except for the wrong dates on the invitations incident XD )
So if we're going by the standard of they met recently prior to the wedding episode, then it brings up the question to as why, where and when. It could be because since Twilight was going to Magic school during the day, there was no need for a foulsitter that much. Cadence most likely became out-of-touch with the family in general, not just Shining Armour or Twilight. It makes sense that Cadence and Shining would bump into each other on occasion for her foulsitting job and therefore making Twilight the mutual connection. But If it was strictly for her job and creating small talk whenever Cadence would run into Shining, it does make sense if she fell out-of-touch to do other things when Cadence left her job as Twilight's foalsitter. Probably to become a full fledged princess and had more intense training. Years go by and Cadence was called to Canterlot to be told about the Crystal Empire and thus be on official business (which probably took days or even months to discuss and prepare considering the Crystal Empire is a delicate and complicated matter). Somewhere along the way Shining and Cadence saw each other and rekindled their relationship, and spent time after duty hours. Thus the wedding happened and then the Crystal Empire events happened - a very quick outcome but romance love can happen in this way.
And now that I think about it, regardless of which "duration of dating" outcome, if we go back to alternative outcome where Twilight didn't get her cutie mark, theres 3 options I can think of that might've happened in that timeline:
1. Cadence still would've left her job as Twilights foalsitter to become a full fledged princess and therefore becoming out-of-touch. While Twilight looks for some other means to get her cutie mark somewhere, somehow.
2. Twilight perhaps gave up on magic. I'm not saying she never got her cutie mark, but what if she did, but at doing something different or even ended up somewhere else
3. If she never gave up on magic, could she have trained somewhere far away to awaken herself and if those abilities had awoken, she probably couldn't control them properly without specific training at the time. And I believe without Celestia, her magic would've been out of control and had a very tragic outcome (if you get what I mean).
We never get to see Twilight in any other timelines so there could be a double of Twilight somewhere (if not going for the tragic outcome) but she wouldn't have been in Canterlot or Ponyville at all, or even somewhere remotely near Canterlot that would've taken a few days to arrive for the Wedding to happen.
And now referring to Crystalis alternative outcome, is it safe to say that without Twilight's presence in Canterlot or Ponyville, she wouldn't have attended the wedding. And therefore Crystalis's plans succeeded and her invasion began.
I was just about to say that
2 likesTime to re-release this video. xD
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh my god! I can’t believe that this whole theory was ruined by a simple mistake. And I can tell how disappointed you are after working so hard on this. But hey, we can still turn this around. There are other things that you are right about. I appreciate your work even though there are some mistakes. Please don’t delete the channel. DON’T YOU DARE DELETE THE CHANNEL. I love it too much to let it go just like that.
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves you needa be starting to think on theories and stuff, this is HARSH
4 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh don’t sulk. Every one can make mistakes like how I am one hour late to see this lovely video. And I think that the video is great 😊
5 likessomeone has noticed!!
6 likesI can't believe that I could see a day when sawtooth is wrong😶
Well this fell apart fast.
3 likesJust ruined this mans whole career
9 likesuhh- I guess we need a new plot for him changing into gen 5 right?
3 likesAdam killed Sawtooth Ha!
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves the theroy is still posible. Becuse what if after failing the exam Twilight falls into a sad state. So much show Shinning returns home not knowing what happend, yells at Cadence thinking she made Twilight sad. But after he finds out the truth, Cadence is heartbroken and doesn't give him the chance to make amends.
7 likesOMG lol
2 likesHow did no one see that
@Sawtooth Waves I agree because in the flashback twilight didnt have her cutie mark but what if cadence and twilight met because someone else changed the timeline someone we havent considered?
4 likes@Optimus prime polska yeah
2 likesPossible solution: (IDK if this has been brought up yet, but) My assumption was always that Cadance did foalsitting for a bunch of families, Twilight's included; it was only after Twilight got her cutie mark that Cadance saw the family more often outside of this, which is when she encountered Shining Armor (who wouldn't have been around when Cadance was foalsitting Twilight anyway, since then he could've just looked after her himself). That would explain Cadance foalsitting Twilight before she got her cutie mark and why Shining Armor would only hang out with her after the Rainboom.
23 likes@Hiccy69 I agree i was trying to say this but didnt know how to describe this while making sense. Then i saw your comment
3 likesUR RIGHT!!
2 likesMaybe it was an oversight on the animator's part. In one of the flashbacks we see Twilight in a royal bedroom unpacking her things. It looked like she was moving in. She must have been Celestia's student at that time.
4 likesOther theory channels: oh no there's a flaw in my theory, better bury it for good
31 likesChad Sawtooth: I'm pinning my shame for all the world to see
You are so right! Hmm...🤔
1 like@Sawtooth Waves
2 likesSAWTOOTH NO-
@Sawtooth Waves
2 likesMaybe like, Shining was in the guard training earlier and maybe was very promising as the leader so Cadence kinda saw that and decided to know the promising pony more, saw Twilight and decided to babysit them because maybe Cadence saw promising things from Twinkle Sprinkle over here-
Aww, don't you just hate when you find out a theory you felt so proud of had a flawed premise? I hate that.
3 likesNow, in Sawtooth's honor, we must try to find a way to make his theory work!
Uhhh.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves it’s true LOL
1 likeSo I haven't read through the entire thread here but your theory could still hold some weight, even up to there was still a royal wedding- but twilight had more of a role in the change than anticipated. Maybe not passing her entrance exam led to celest not teaching her, leading to her remaining just like moon dancer, so caught up in her studies and her want to prove herself again that she totally misses shinings wedding. I guess there are kinda limitless little alterations that could've led to the change, but its fun to speculate!
1 likeAlso hell yea nb represent!
@Cupid Animations "foalsitter", not "foulsitter". ;)
2 likesah oh spaghettios!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves you good bro?
1 like@Sawtooth Waves if Shining was part of the Royal Guard back then, then possibly. Celestia saw potential in Twilight because she saw the same potential in Shining. She could've also gotten word on Twilight's keen mind and magical aptitude from Cadence.
0 likesWhoo this will definitely be in his video I hope my comment is in your comment which is in his video that’s kind of greedy but whatever hope your comment is in the video
0 likesYou're right she doesn't have her cutie mark I never realized that although I never really paid attention to it until now so if twilight had nothing to do with it then how did they meet it could have been that it was just destined to happen think about it if they never meant flurry heart would have never been born and even then if she was I don't think she would have been alicorn (because cadence is an alicorn because princess Celestia made her one and shining armor as an alicorn sister this explains flurry heart)
1 likeTrue, BUT, Something ELSE could have happened that caused Chrysalis's plan to work, like say maybe Twilight NEVER LEFT Canterlot and therefore Shining Armour would be able to tell Twilight face to face that he was getting married to her foalsitter. She then would have rushed over to wherever Cadence lives to congratulate her, and she might have gotten there before Chrysalis did which would have gotten rid of the suspicions she had in the normal timeline, causing her to not spy on Cadence, and to also not pay as much attention to her weird behavior, which would stop Chrysalis from banishing her to the caves beneath Canterlot, keeping Twilight from discovering the real Cadence, keeping Cadence from escaping, causing Chrysalis to get married to Shining Armour, and the rest is pretty straight forward from here. Chrysalis reveals herself, she defeats Celestia, Twilight probably flees to try to find the real Cadence, Chrysalis takes over, Zecora gathers some ponies from Ponyville, they flee into the Everfree Forest and Chrysalis starts trying to find their hideout. This also might explain why Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie acted the way they did towards Twilight and Spike. When they fled with Zecora, they may have run into their world's Twilight. Twilight must have joined them, and fled with them. They must have thought Twilight was a changeling because they knew Twilight, but the Twilight from their world was still a unicorn, and the Twilight from our world is an alicorn, so they didn't recognize her. They thought that Spike was a changeling because in their world, Spike didn't exist, so they didn't know who he was, and in their world, if you didn't know who somebody was, they were probably a Changeling, and Spike was with the Twilight from our world, and since they already thought that our Twilight was a changeling, from their perspective, I think it was pretty safe for them to say that he was a changeling too.
2 likesAlso, this is making me want to make some artwork for the different versions of the Mane Six, from each of Starlight's alternate timelines, except for the last one.
1 likeVery interesting....
0 likesWe've ruined Sawtooth.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves noooo don't delete it!!!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves are you ever going to make a theory about zecora's home land,it's tree of harmony,the other three across the globe,and how the replacing of the equestrian one by the treehouse will affect the balence of the world?
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Alas, confirmation bias is one of the perils of making theory videos (trust me, I know). I think the best way of getting around it is bringing in fact-checkers to examine it before public release, though it kinda looks like you already had the equivalent of that and it evidently didn't help. Ó.Ò
0 likesDon't worry, you can impliment corrections into the part-2 at least.
brohoof and hugs
@Sawtooth Waves
1 likeYour theory can still work just in a different way
The rainboom=destiny
Cadence and shining=related to Twilight witch density was related to the rainboom
No rainboom=no destiny
Candice and shinings wedding=there destiny
So no rainboom no wedding
This makes no sense ;v;
@Sawtooth Waves perhaps Shinning Armour got close to Celestia first. He tells her that they need a sitter when he is a royal guard and Celestia recommended Cadence. Perhaps after Twilight got her cutie mark, Cadence taught her some spells and Twilight started to like her. Then Twilight always told Shinning how good Cadence is. After some time they fall in love?
1 likeSo without Twilight telling Shinning how good Cadence is, they may never meet. Cuz I think Shinning will be too busy in his duties and won’t meet the Cadence Twilight loves after getting her cutie mark. (Idk is this brought up yet)
No way .. after all discord is star swirl ;)
0 likesKiding yours the best
@Sawtooth Waves maybe without the main six a different villain got power, but The Queen was able to overpower that villain and take over. I mean what happened to the villains before and after each villain???
0 likes@Jean-Philippe Paradis (Hexstream) omg XD lmao
1 likeWhich means, they would've still been together!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves But wait. Who was staying where and in what time period? So Twilight was living with her parents before her cutie mark lead to her acceptance as Celestia's protege. Where was Shining Armor staying? Was he already away on military duties or maybe at training camp or something? If he were still at home, he wouldn't be in the royal guard, and would probably have plenty of free time to watch his little sister when his parents needed a babysitter. I think Shining had left for military training sometime before Twilights cutie mark appeared, hence why Cadence would be watching pre-cutie mark Twilight. Shining can't be around when he's away at boot camp or even stationed in the castle somewhere. He'd be sleeping where all the other guard ponies sleep. I'm thinking that Twilight would have had no business being anywhere near her brother until she was accepted to the magic school. And since the magic school is somewhere where the princess teaches, there are probably guards in charge of security, especially around the library. And since she was Celestia's direct pupil, I think she probably got to stay in the castle with Celestia so she could keep close eye on this new student of hers with amazing potential. Royal castle stay means you're bound to meet royalty, as well as guards. I also wonder if Celestia talked to Cadence about keeping a special eye on this new pupil around the castle. Shining would have been around as part of the guard and would have often dropped in on his sister from time to time when he could. Cadence is there when Shing drops by or vice versa and boom! They get to know each other personally through Twilight, though they probably don't start dating until Twilight gets her own place somewhere else in Canterlot, at least not openly.
0 likesDoes my idea make sense? Did I successfully salvage your theory? Or do you not have a clue as to what I just said? Please let me know!
@Adam Wood Studios They're*
1 likeSawtooth is non-binary
@Loki is best anti-hero they*
1 likeSawtooth is non-binary
@Sawtooth Waves She is right. Before the exam she had no cutie mark in the flashback.... So the time line must be different.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves 🙋🏻♀️ I am a big fan of you
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves l love ❤️ you a lot
0 likesCelestia had a vision of the future where Twilight become a Princess, therefore she was VIP before she even met Celestia. With future changed, past Celestia wouldn't get a vision, therefore no Cadance foal-sitter.
0 likes@Spritezz I didn’t think any one could do it
0 likesThis just got jucy
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves I was about to comment that but i saw the pinned comment lol but i think you Can figure it out if you can't figure it out NO ONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves did you not think this all the way
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves of
0 likesExactly I was about the comment the same thing
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves no!
0 likesWell, that's anothertheory busted
0 likesYeah, that doesn't make much sense and her getting Cadance after her CM is much more logical.
0 likesHello im sidon
0 likes@Musical Crafts right yes I knew that. Still getting used to it
1 like@Sawtooth Waves It means Cadance was Twilight's foal sitter way back. I have a theory remember the bad to good changeling thing? well if the mane 6 didn't come together it means the future events that took place such as changeling reformation wouldn't had happened as Starlight was bad so she didn't help Trixie didn't become nice as Starlight wasn't there Discord was still spreading chaos and thorax may have been nice but it was Starlight that suggested to share love otherwise Thorax would have been weakened. JUST A THEORY
0 likesThat's true
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Dang that's rough
0 likesHmm think about this a different way. When Twilight said in the flashback that Cadence is a princess and she is just a "plain ol' unicorn" and Cadence said that Twilight is "anything BUT a plain old unicorn". You can see this in two ways. Either Cadence just means that Twilight is special to her personally OR she knew something! Think about it, isn't it a little bit fishy that Celestia let Cadence foalsit a random filly? If we learned something from the Rainboom story it is quite rare in mlp that anything happens just by mere chance. I think Celestia knew what would become of Twilight even though she didn't have her cutie mark yet and didn't know that it would look like the element of magic. Or maybe she did? I don't know, we shouldn't underestimate Celestia xD It's also quite interesting that the magic school even let Twilight take the test at all, because it's a school for gifted unicorns. Sure Twilight read a lot about magic, but the only thing we saw her doing was turning a page with her magic before she took the test and that's basic magic for young unicorns, no special talent there. Not until the test that is. So it was probably Celestia who inivited Twilight to take the test, because she knew something. When Twilight's cutie mark appeared she didn't seem surprised at all about how it looks. I mean she should be surprised that it looked so much like the element of magic, but she wasn't, because she always knew. Just my thinking ;)
1 likeNow w it become more complicated
0 likeseh it couldve been a error in the artists part.
0 likesSolution: Flashbacks are memories and memories are not perfect, so it is a case of “unreliable narrator”.
1 likeI noticed that too! Pretty much immediately-
0 likes@Feather Bloom agree 😅😅😅😅😅😅
1 like@Sawtooth Waves please!!!! Don't delete your channel!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 mlp seasons are over already. I really want to watch your vids, at least to make me less sad about mlp ending. Theories make me wonder and more things to see about you. I can't find anyone else with such a bond of MLP like you, I guess. All I'm saying is, everypony who are watching this or subscribing your channel, never want for you to go. There are alot of mysteries in the show that I don't notice of and need you to solve it, maybe. MLP gone, you tooooooo!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 and I'm 15 years old using my dad's phone, I wanted to subscribe you, but I can't( don't need to bother about this information)
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves hehehe I think that this video will be popular for not being flawless.
1 likeI think you broke Sawtooth xd
1 likeYeah that's what I was thinking about. But I do believe the cadence and shining armor started dating when Cadence was Twilights foalsitter.
1 likeVery true, sawtooth I can’t believe I forgot that but still good theory
0 likesThat's a good point. Cadence was Twilight's foal sitter back home before she went to the school of magic.
0 likesThat's why Twilight didn't recognize the name Cadence took on after connecting with Celestia.
@Sawtooth Waves
1 likeNext week will be about how the first theory fell apart and the second theory (which you will need to develop) is better.
Is preventing the sonic rainboom connected to preventing the Royal Wedding, and if so, how? Did Twilight becoming Celestia's personal student bring Shining Armor to the Royal Guard rather than becoming a sentry in a distant outpost?
Would his friendship with the pony who became Celestia's adopted niece remain a fond memory if he never met her again?
Or was Chrysalis after something else entirely. Her big complaint wasn't that her army lost Canterlot in Season 2, but that her entire hive was taken from her when they were converted to Friendship.
@Sawtooth Waves OK, maybe Celestia had her eye on Twilight and sent Cadance to "push her in the right direction" but when she failed the entrance exam Celestia gave up on her, pulling Cadance away and that left Shining Armor and Cadance as a "lost love" situation since I'm sure they're love took a while to grow. Idk 🤷♂️
1 likeOH SHOOT,hmmmmm,alright there's gotta be anotehr reason why they didn't fall in love,this is hard to think about,I wonder what made them fall in love with each other in the first place,maybe if we focus on maybe how they fell in love with each other we could figure it out
2 likesEdit:also to the person who pointed this out apparently Twilight is Twilughts now?(no offense I just wanna tell you there's a typo)
@Sawtooth Waves the being a student of celestia gave the power to free cadence
1 likeThis was my first thought and I was gonna look after finishing the video 😂
1 like@Đình Oánh Nguyễn they were joking, they’re not actually going to delete their channel 😂
1 likeHaha
1 likeYes because she didn’t know she was going to be the element of magic super cutie mark couldn’t have happened then
0 likes@RebeccX Imagine you are wonderfully talented at something. Someone younger than you admires you and thinks that they are not good enough. So of course you'll compliment. That's what Cadance did.
1 likeGive me a minute I'll debunk this
1 likeOOF
1 like@Aarti Kumari Sure thing. That's why I said you can see her statement in 2 ways ;) Of course what you said is more likely, I was only trying to say that there could be a possibility that Cadence knew ;) Even if she didn't, what is very likely, Twilight was still special to her no matter what :)
0 likes@RebeccX yeah I mean there's no in show evidence that cadance can see the future but celestia can. Remember the crystal empire episode part 1 in that celestia said that Twilight is ready and that this IS a test! I don't remember exact line but yeah
1 likewait what is that supposed to mean?
1 like@Bright New Future oh..... right..... heheh... got mistaken😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
1 like@devendra singh yeah haha 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oooooohhhh busted
0 likes@Loki is best anti-hero oh ok!
1 likedude you murdered sawtooth
0 likesWhat happend to Sawtooth Waves😓😓
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves what does this mean? Why is this so ominous? What does egg on my face mean?
0 likesIt's ok sawtooth you've made mistakes before remember when you thought discord was starswirl also omg I did not see twilight did not have a cutie mark !!! This changes everything
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Reminds me of that one time I thought I got an A on a test but I got a B
0 likesTHE PLOT THICKENS
0 likesOOP-
0 likesYou destroyed this whole mans video with one comment
0 likeswhoops
0 likesyou are right
0 likes😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹👅👅👅👅👅👅
0 likesMaybe it's just a animation error?
0 likesThat still means they could’ve met
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves in the alternet time line twilight wasnt there to save cadence from the crystal cave place in the beginning ..... yeah it was cadence overall but as you mentiond IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO twilight was able to free cadence and she was able to do the love thing
0 likesMaybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into ponies futures after thier birth
0 likesYour right but what if it was before the rain boom happend
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves sheesh 🕳👩🏻🦯
0 likesProbably just um a the creators forgetting it
0 likesoof
0 likesWhen one animation error messes up a whole theory 😭
0 likesMay someone please explain what’s going on here, because of the details being all over the place I’m having a hard time to understand of what’s going on
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves but remember? the wedding wasn’t chrysalis’s only attempt to rule. in to where and back again she was successful until starlight came and without the mane six starlight wouldn’t have been there to stop chrysalis
0 likesHey I just love you 😍 so much
0 likesbut starlight still did a effect of their relationship though like twilight said " not only your ruining our friendship your ruining others too " little guess cadence and shinning armor , celestia and luna friendship and many others even when she didnt have her cutie mark when cadence foal sit her the rainboom did brought everyone together
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oo
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves PLEASE DONT DELETE YOUR CHANNEL
2 likesYep, he broke the song-bug
1 likeOof
1 likebut it could be that they did just forgot the cutie mark
0 likesOMIGOODNESS
0 likesYes so the original prinses kadens should still be traped in the dungen because
0 likesof Twilight's gut chrisalis sent her into the dungen to so easily esceped
@Sawtooth Waves yes.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves yeah ill believe anything you say...
0 likesUntil now- xD
Hmm do you realize the sonic rainboom is important think about it ONE PONY HELP 5 PONIES THATS IMPOSIBLE right i think Rainbow dash ment to become an you know A Alicorn those questions in my mind never have an answer🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
0 likesWow, just wow.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves also in the comics it shows that Cadence and Shining meet in high school
0 likesdude you killed this amazing theory
0 likesYes, so the real prinses cadens is still traped in the dungen remember Twilight saved cadens can you please make a video about the proper theatre please
0 likesOhhhhhhh
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves sawtooth b r e a t h e
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves lol
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves DAMN
0 likesLate-
0 likesAnd there’s something else, if you look in the comics of MLP, Shining Amour actually tells the story of how they met, Shining and Cadence met in high school.
Oh no what have you done..
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves ooooooo
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves noooooooo
0 likesooooo
1 likeSawtooth: 😓
yeah thats right
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves IS THAT YOU
0 likesYes that’s exactly what I was thinking @Adam Wood Studios. Twilight had Cadence as a foalsitter before the entrance exam because she didn’t have her mark when she started being foalsat. That means that since she got her mark during the entrance exam, Cadence and Shining should’ve already known each other beforehand.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves there was a error too, twilight was able to use magic before getting her cutiemark (when her memories about cadence and her childhood) but in the Ep where she got her cutiemark, she wasn't even able to turn a page
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves sad sawtooth noises
0 likesw o w nice
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves There's also a MLP comic that throws a wrench in your theory.
0 likes:O
0 likesY'all just destroyed the theory with just a few words lol 🍵
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves is what you
0 likesThat’s what I thought!
0 likesDang- my guy just ruined saetooth's career XD
0 likesOMG 😳
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves bahwhahhahahahhahah YOUR NOT
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves you are super broken
0 likesyes but they would have not the same love for an example well everything would change twillight would be in a boring libary all the time so what did shining and cadence do in that time without the rainboom we dont know
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves lol
0 likesMy idea for how Cadence became Twilight's foalsitter: Shining Armor's uncle/Twilight Velvet's brother was a royal guard that served around the time Cadance became a princess, possibly as her personal security detail.
0 likesHe let it slip that his sister needed someone to foalsit for her filly, and Cadance, not being given many duties yet in her early years as a princess, volunteered to take care of the little Twilight.
She took a liking to foalsitting, so when Twilight Velvet mentioned that some of the other parents at Twilight's school also needed someone to sit in for their foals, she was eager to help them too.
That's also how Cadance met her bridesmaids/Twilight's old Canterlot friends – all of them were ponies that she was formerly foalsitting for.
Actually, nevermind. Shining Armor wouldn't just say "my favorite uncle" if he knew that Cadence knew him. Still, I like the idea of Cadance foalsitting for Twilight's Canterlot friends as well, and that this is why they ended up her bridesmaids.
0 likesUh ohhh
0 likesI want a cutie mark
0 likesI’m just gonna guess cadence foal sitting was a day job for humility from celestia but was called from her job for a bit for princess stuff then when twilight became the protege she needed a proper sitter for when celestia was off in another kingdom or just generally busy and couldn’t take twilight so her old foalsitter would work just fine and then cadence meets shining boom!! Theory saved just a little shuffled
0 likesDo the mane 6 know about him?
1 like@Sawtooth Waves ello
0 likesDon’t listen to him he’s lying to make you guys like him he needs to be reported!
0 likes@Rose playz me
0 likes@Rose playz ?????
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves HAHSHEJJE
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves fop👭💖💗💓💜💞💟❤💙💙💚💛🐇🎁🎉🍧🍦🍩🍰🍫🍬🍭🍕🍝🍟🍔🍓🌷🌸🌼🌻
0 likes@Adam Wood Studios lol
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves the ultimate confusion
0 likesYEEEEES EMBARRASS SAWTOOTH!
0 likesI think that Cadence used to foalsit Twilight before she got her cutie mark , she probably advised her parents to join her in princess celestia's school and after she got her cutie mark (twilight) cadence probably started going to her house more often to teach her how to make right use of her magic and maybe thats how Cadence and Shining armor met (this is my theory)😃
0 likesYour right
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves So this may be a bit late but (almost a year). I think you missed another key piece of info though (besides Twilight not having a cutie mark in the flashbacks), she ran with her friends to try and get the elements because of Celestia's instuctions, she may not have ran if she didn't have a reason to (elements), besides that in this timeline Twilight most likely isn't as close with Celestia. So she would have been captured when Cadance and Celestia were, because she stayed and fought. Or since she was in Canterlot when Crystalis impersonated Cadance, Crystalis put her under the same spell as Shining Armour since she also put the bridesmaids under her spell.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves ‘sawtooth’s life force leaves the chat’ exactly sooo… shinie and cadie would still have interacted casually and cadie is celestia’s “niece” so twilie and cadie would have been forced to act professionally around the school
0 likesYa
0 likesyou just ended this man's career 💀💀
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ "You're laughing. He killed Sawtooth and you're laughing."
1 like@JELLY Cherry The Cat y e s
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves ohno
0 likes@Spritezz u broke my funny bone
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves wait wait wait whatttttt
0 likes@Adam Wood Studios same it was a year ago
0 likesWatch his next vid
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves it’s ok
0 likesEXACTLY
0 likesThat's why I was so confused about the Chrysalis takeover
But you actually broke Sawtooth and that's-
wait wouldn't she have a babysitter when she got her cutie mark after she got into the school so maybe its just an error?
0 likesI know this is over 1 year old, but if you think aborto it, Twilight only could suspect of Chrysalis because she was invited BEFORE the wedding happened. But why was she invited before the wedding in the first place? Well, Twilight was invited to take care of the preparations ALONG with her friends, whose especial talents would help a lot on the preparations.
0 likesWithout the Mane 6 together, Twilight would only be invited to the actual day of the wedding, just like her parents, not leaving her enough time to investigate “Cadance”’s odd behavior, leading to Chrysalis’ plan to succeed anyways.
@Gabrielly Mattos interesting to say, but Twi would've still gotten early access most likely
0 likesWhat just happen
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves wah wah wah wahhhhhhhhh
0 likesWell yeah✳️
0 likesI’m so happy you feel comfortable to come out as non binary 💛🤍💜🖤 as a fellow lgbt+ person just know I am so proud of u <3
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thank you so muchhhhh
135 likes@Sawtooth Waves your awesome
14 likes@Sawtooth Waves Ur so cool
5 likes@Jillian Irwin that is what I ‘ve been asking
1 like@giargue oh it must’ve been really recent because
0 likesTheir old name was “the BRONY notion” and a brony is a MALE fan of mlp
When did they come out as non-binary?
5 likes@Remi Remi Very recently cuz brony is a male my little pony fan
0 likes@Molasse I discovered their channel a couple hours ago, so I don’t know anything about what your talking about/when
0 likes@Remi Remi they change the name about two years ago
0 likes@Molasse ah, kk
0 likesI’m gay how did I miss this information being said 😂
5 likesYea
0 likesSawtooth is nonbinary? Cool I used to be nonbinary, then I became fully trans lol. I’m glad you feel comfortable enough with your audience to tell us! Good look ❤️
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Ur trans? Cool. I'm agender :D
84 likesCongratulations 👉🏼👈🏼💖🏳️⚧️✨
61 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I'm also Non-binary
39 likes@☆StarGem22☆ ooo cool :D
22 likesfully trans? you don't need to be binary to be trans. everyone under the non-binary spectrum is trans:]
103 likes@Jenkins yeah I know that, I just personally used being nonbinary as a middle man to become a boy. I know that nonbinary is an umbrella term
46 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i see! and same, actually. i just didn't want people to be misled
23 likesWhat does non binary mean?
10 likes@Rainbow Dragon It means that you don’t identify as a female or male
24 likes@Rainbow Dragon neither male or female
11 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Ok
5 likes@• Generosity • Okay thanks
5 likesI am nonbinary and bisexual 😁
9 likesHow do you become fully trans
3 likes@• Generosity • but everyone has a gender
7 likes@Blaize Gottman some people would prefer to be called they them, and would prefer to dress androgynously
20 likes@Blaize Gottman I went from female to male
6 likes@Blaize Gottman Yeah non binary means that you don’t identify as female or male like I said-
9 likes@Dani cool
1 like@• Generosity • but how does that make sense
3 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer wow
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer OK then and I'm Male that's it
3 likes@Blaize Gottman 👌 cool, man town
5 likes@Blaize Gottman because gender is a spectrum. The most common chromosomes are XX and XY however, some people have chromosomes in a different order or a different number, this leads to intersex people. People with different genitals.
9 likesSome nonbinary people have regular chromosomes and view them-self as a different gender, I was nonbinary as I was transitioning from female to male. But some people are nonbinary permanently.
It’s hard to explain to a cisgender person, but some people feel wrong in their birth body, making them transgender.
@Blaize Gottman basically do your own research
1 like@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what's man town a place with only males
2 likes@Blaize Gottman it was a joke, I take it you are quite young
6 likes@Blaize Gottman think of it this way. Most people are right-handed, but left-handed people also exist. Now replace right-handed with cis (identifying as the gender you were assigned at birth), and left-handed with any other gender identity. If someone is trans, they're basically being forced to grow up as a gender they don't identify as, similar to how only a couple decades ago left-handed children were still forced to do things with their right hand. Since most of the world population is right-handed, left-handed people tend to fly under the radar at first.
15 likesIn this analogy, cis people would be right-handed, trans people would be left-handed, non-binary people wouldn't have a preference, and genderfluid (male one moment, female the next) people would be ambidextrous.
@Iris Huisman that’s actually a really good way of putting it thank you
6 likes@Rosella read the full thread
1 likeI used to think I was non bi before finding out I was trans!
2 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I can't take credit for this analogy, but I can't remember where I first saw it ˆˆ'
3 likesI’m a demigirl lol
1 like@Jenkins Uh, no? Non-binary and trans mean pretty much two opposite things. Non-binary means outside of male or female, trans is "transitioning" from one to the other. Trans people identify as man or woman, so within the binary.
2 likes@Sakisasvictorianmask being trans means not identifying as your biological sex. Therefore, nonbinary folk are trans
16 likes@Cielnova No, trans is literally short for "transitioning". Trans is not an umbrella term, and it's incredibly disrespectful to use it as such. Trans people go through a LOT to achieve what they feel is their true gender identity. "Non-binary" is a term by people who think being female or male is linked to stereotypes and don't have dysphoria.
6 likesAlso, intersex has NOTHING to do with trans and it's weird somebody here brought that up.
@Sakisasvictorianmask according to merriam Webster
15 likesDefinition of transgender
: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth
Also, many nonbinary people experience dysphoria. I personally tried socially transitioning to female and still felt dysphoric, when i started to go by nonbinary that feeling lessened to the point that i rarely feel dysphoric anymore.
I’m lesbian 👩❤️💋👩
3 likesI’m still questioning-_-
1 likeBut that doesn’t make sense! He’s clearly male!
2 likes@Moadot720 and you are clearly very young, gender does not equal what you look or sound like. It’s what you feel like. They deserve respect and if you are not going to give them that you should probably leave the channel
19 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i have another question for you. How exactly does non-binary be included into the LGBTQ? Isn't LGBTQ or sexual orientation referred to those who do it physically? Non-binary (the way i see it) is connected to the mind of the person and how they identified themselves. Therefore, it is psycological, not physical.
1 like@Hiccy69 it’s in the transgender spectrum.
5 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer how? I search for it online, and it says that non-binary is not the same with transgender. Since transgender means unsure of your birth gender and decided to change it completely while non-binary means a person doesn't have or doesn't want to be identified as one gender or another, no matter what gender they were born with.
3 likesI’m confused, when does sawtooth say he’s non binary? I seriously don’t see where
6 likes@Sakisasvictorianmask I had a pet cat who was born as a female but as she grew up she became a father cat
0 likesit's name was Sandy
@Sakisasvictorianmask its like cielnova said lol
0 likes@Moadot720 I also thought that he is a male but apparently he is not.
0 likes@Sapphire Star then were are on the same page. Because I don’t know where he said it either.
5 likesNo, the other character thinks he doesn't have gender, Sawtooth never corrected him on his own gender. Where do people get these ideas from?
2 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ Hi non-binary, I'm female.
0 likes@Jenkins Unless you don't get the surgery and other stuff. Then you just have genderdisphoria.
0 likes@Rainbow Dragon It means you don't think you are either male or female.
0 likes@Blaize Gottman Have genderdisphoria.
1 like@Blaize Gottman Correct, everyone has a gender, but some people don't think gender applies to them (no matter what people around them say) because it's an entirely emotionally based self-diagnosis, and you're right, it doesn't make much sense at all, but then it also deeply describes how lost our society is when it feels the need to question themselves. It's a deep rooted sign of disbelief in themselves.
2 likes@Iris Huisman Normal people don't identify, they merely don't refute who they are. Saying you identify as (insert blank) is just a form of denial of the obvious, otherwise, you wouldn't feel the need to announce your identity.
3 likesThe exception to this rule is online because nobody can see your face, behavior, and body language.
Your analogy is only right in that people at one point thought they could correct left-handed behavior, but that analogy doesn't touch on identity at all, and it's always obvious when someone is left-handed, but not when someone is trans, (I get the point of your analogy though), you're trying to say that people opposing transgenderism is the same as people opposing left-handed people at one time because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.
Your analogy has holes in it, and it's my hope that you can understand that by having them pointed out to you that you can better understand how deep conversation like this goes, and thus form healthy dialogue.
The subject of identity is a very deep one in this day in age because so many people are suffering deeply because questions they asked were not answered for them (dare I say) that if people had such questions answered well, this identity crisis this generation is feeling would not be happening.
This is me expressing my belief in how much I believe how deep this issue goes.
@Sakisasvictorianmask Trans is short for transgender though, or transgenderism.
2 likes@Amber Slahlize what
3 likes@Amber Slahlize Okay thanks
0 likes@Sapphire Star pride flag
0 likes@Hiccy69 the definition of transgender is someone who does not identify as their birth gender, sawtooth does not identify as their birth gender being nonbinary
3 likes@Rainbow Dragon don’t listen to amber she is not doing any research and basically invalidating trans people.
5 likes@Amber Slahlize uh oh somebody is cisgender and needs to learn how to sympathise and use google
5 likes@Amber Slahlize if you have a problem with the trans spectrum watch bill nyes video on it on Netflix, he does a great job of explaining.
5 likesIf not. Piss off and leave the channel, they clearly don’t want you here
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm just going to share this for reference: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transgender
1 likehttps://www.dictionary.com/e/nonbinary-meaning/
It's for whatchamacallit people, but the root problem is the same.
@Hiccy69 Yes, that's correct. It's a different symptom of the same problem.
2 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Oh okay
0 likes@Amber Slahlize transgenderism isn’t a problem. If you think it is you should go back to the early 2000s and leave the channel. You should probably mix in with your own crowd of corrupt discord users and 60 percent of redditors
6 likes@Sakisasvictorianmask trans means not identifying with your birth gender, and non-binary folks also transition, not always, but some of them do get top sugery, or take hormones!
4 likesQuote from the definition of Oxford Languages:
Trans:
"denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
It can also either be short for Transgender, which is why we say "trans folk" or "trans people" because they are transgender, and saying "transitioning people" would be weird haha
Also quote from transequality.org
:
"Transgender people are people whose gender identity is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth. “Trans” is often used as shorthand for transgender. When we're born, a doctor usually says that we're male or female based on what our bodies look like."
Hope this helps ^^
when did Sawtooth say that?!
2 likes@Aarti Kumari can you please read the thread. They have a enby pride flag as their literal profile pic
3 likes@Amber Slahlize uh OK
3 likes@Amber Slahlize one, I didn't come up with that analogy, someone else (who I'm pretty sure was actually trans) did. It's just a simple analogy to explain to someone who doesn't quite understand what it means in terms that they'll more easily understand. I once heard the analogy 'straight people are standing on one leg, gay people are standing on the other leg, bisexual people are standing on both legs, pansexual people are lying on the floor, and asexual people are levitating.' Also an oversimplified analogy, but effective to explain to people what the difference is.
3 likesTwo, of course the analogy doesn't touch on identity, it's an analogy. I'm loosely comparing it to something else that has a somewhat similar feeling in order to help an uninformed person understand. If I were to go deeper into the subject of identity, it would become more complicated and thus harder to understand.
Three, you're clearly uninformed about what being transgender really is. You said '-because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.' First off, 'transgenderism' isn't even a real word, or if it is it's never used by actual trans people, the correct term in this context is 'gender dysphoria', and secondly, your point holds no ground. Of course there's no evidence for gender dysphoria being present at birth, because babies that young don't have a concept of gender yet. Gender is literally a social construct, and is forced upon people from a very young age. Very young kids only really start to realize that kids of the opposite sex are different from them when they're told they are. If you were to put a bunch of androgynously dressed kids of both sexes with similar toys together and just told them to play nice and nothing about what sex/gender the other kids are, they won't treat any of the other kids differently purely based on what's in their pants. Gender dysphoria only starts to become present when kids realize that kids of the other sex are treated differently than kids of their own sex, and their brain starts telling them that they're supposed to be treated like the other sex. There was even a study done at some point that proved that trans people's brains are more similar to the general brains of the gender they identify as, rather than the gender they were assigned at birth. So yes, while technically gender dysphoria doesn't show up until later on in life, the only reason it shows up at all is because the child is treated as a different gender than their brain thinks they are.
Four, you saying that wanting to identify as something is just 'denying the obvious' clearly shows that you don't know how all of this works. Speaking as a friend of a trans person, I can tell you right now that being clear in what you want to identify as can be very helpful in calming dysphoria. My friend is a recently out trans girl, but still has a pretty masculine look because she lived 17 years of her life as a boy. If people (irl too, mind you) were to address her as a guy, obviously she'd want to correct them. Trans people obviously don't go around shouting 'I'M (insert gender identity here)!', because nobody does that. They only make it clear what their gender identity is when they're either just coming out or answering/correcting someone.
Honestly, I could go on, but I'm tired and my eyes are now unfocusing on their own, so I'm gonna stop it here. I feel like you need to do some more research before you start trying to correct people.
And one more time, it was a simplified analogy, not a 100% accurate explanation.
@Iris Huisman Can you put spaces between your paragraphs?
3 likesAlso, I'm reading a wall of nothing.
You don't know what anything is of anything, that's all I can say right now.
You've been lied to about what identity is, I strongly suggest you introduce more critical thinking on this subject - too much of it I see has relied on the word of others, rather than relying on the truth.
Like children not born with an identity? And identity is a social construct? Who told you that? You have no ground to assert such a notion.
Not knowing what it means to be a man or woman doesn't mean that they aren't a man or woman - they will behave as man and women even before their brains are fully developed (because gender isn't their brain), so I'm guessing you never babysat children, if you leave them to their own devices, some of them will start to discover that one kid has something different from the other, but more then that, but more then that, male babies will act like males, and female babies will act like females.
Gender isn't something they learned (it's who they are).
The fact of gender dysphoria should be what makes you question the notion of gender is a social construct, because of how nobody taught them what gender dysphoria is, much less what it means to be who you are.
So in short, yes, transgenderism is a real word, just like transgender is also a real word, they were to different things, but are ultimately referring to the same thing, only transgenderism is more specific to the ideology of how to solve gender dysphoria, and to differ from the definition of sex and gender, it does that so that it can oppose reality in every way possible, and that's why we've got trans men in female sports now, beating all the natural born women, while nobody lifts a finger to it.
You would be hard pressed to find someone who could admit that transitioning does not cure their dysphoria, it only allows them to cope with their dysphoria.
How do I know? Because if they reverted back, the dysphoria would come back, ergo, they are not really being cured.
This is transgenderism, and it's an ideology, a belief system, you don't even know that it's a belief system.
As for what is obvious, you're setting up a perfect example of what I mean by "noticing the obvious", people inherently know what men and women look like, so if your friend has to correct them, in reality, they are being contradicted, not corrected, because what they are being told, is that they can't trust their eyes.
And that's the heart of transgenderism, the belief that you can't trust your own eyes.
You might as well admit, this is an entirely emotionally based disfunction.
If they knew what it meant to be the gender they were assigned at birth, they might feel more comfortable in their own skin. And that's why I feel pity for the majority of them.
And I have been plenty educated on the matter sweety, that's why I'm here differing on so much from what you're saying.
I imagine it makes you feel very uncomfortable, but if that's what it takes to make people see the truth, (even the uncomfortable truth), I'm going to get dirty and fight for their souls, but you know that old saying, you can take a donkey to water, but you can't make them drink.
So to if nobody wants to help themselves, I'm not going to try and force them.
@Amber Slahlize I did put spaces, but apparently my tablet fucked that up. Look, if I had the energy to argue right now, I would, but I can already tell you're set in your beliefs and I am not in the mood to get worked up over this.
3 likesI would like to point out two things though.
One, you mixed up gender and identity, which are two different things. I said that gender is a social construct (which I literally heard from a scientist btw), not identity.
Two, of course kids are gonna realize that things are different eventually. They're gonna realize that some of them have different genitals. Maybe some of them will realize that one kid has a behavioral abnormality that will later be diagnosed as autism or adhd. Maybe they'll see eachother's birthmarks. Maybe one of them has some trouble with some toys because they're left-handed. What I meant is that young kids generally don't care what gender someone is, and the only reason they'll most likely eventually end up segregating is both because of the fact that parents don't seem to realize that two people of the opposite sex can also be just friends and thus they'll probably start feeling awkward and stop hanging out with the opposite sex, and the fact that people that are more similar to eachother are in most cases more likely to get along. An autistic kid will probably have less issues hanging out with other autistic kids than neurotypical ones. Kids that like the same football team are more likely to get along than kids who like opposing teams. Of course there is such a thing as opposites attract, but that tends to happen later on in life.
@Iris Huisman I mix up gender and identity, because they are the same things.
2 likesIf they were not, transgenders would not be saying "I identify as..."
Ergo, "gender is a social construct" is really "identity is a social construct".
As for the scientist, who is he to make such a claim? You are allowed to criticize scientists, (it's wouldn't be science if you didn't).
"young kids generally don't care what gender someone is"
You've never heard kids say "ew boys" or "ew girls"?
How young are these kids that you're describing?
"parents don't seem to realize..."
The reason children interact with each other the way they do, isn't because of the parents, like nobody told me to like girl toys, or boy toys. I liked both, but I generally enjoyed my girl toys a little more.
My brother was the exact opposite, nobody told him that he had to play separate from his little sister, he just developed this "ew girls" thing on his own.
He didn't like me playing with his toys, and my parents who never encouraged it let him do that.
In other words, I was behaving feminine without any involvement, and my brother was acting masculine, also without any involvement.
This is what people don't realize about gender, it's there, already being expressed through behavior.
Dare I say, I see the contradiction even from someone who passes, they and their friends don't even realize it.
Like there is a trans woman who thinks shes a guy, and I can still see her behaving feminine, even after all the hormones and surgery.
As for kids liking the same things, I don't see the point behind this.
But watch this video sometime, this is a woman who has dealt with real transgenders for a long time, she is also left-leaning so you'll feel more comfortable hearing what she has to say about transgenderism, she is very polite and kind, and she feels for the children who are suffering with their identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbxIFC0Q2o
This wont be confirmation bias, and yet it wont be differing from many things you already believe.
Cool! I'm demi girl !
1 likeOH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT,interesting fact to know that Sawtooth is non binary,for the whole time I've been referring them as he,his,him pronounces I am so sorry
3 likestook me so long to realise ur talking abt his profile pic and not the video
1 like@Jemimah Rajakumar their*
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer oops, sorry
1 like@Jemimah Rajakumar it’s ok, we don’t actually know their pronouns yet but it’s just better to stay safe fufiebfkfjdb
1 like@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you`re right, I have no experience with anyone who isn`t either male or female so I didn`t think of it
1 likeI'm just pansexual
2 likes(NO PANSEXUAL AND BISEXUAL IS NOT THE SAME I SWEAR)
That explains why they choose a changling
1 likewait when did sawtooth say that?
0 likes@Mr Nemo they*
1 like@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Thanks
0 likes@Jillian Irwin I know they* are because of their profile picture.
0 likes@Jillian Irwin They said it on twitter
1 likeHi! I'm Genderfluid!
2 likesNot saying i dont belive you or anything, but when did he say that?
0 likes@Lasse Grotkjær On twitter
2 likes@Lasse Grotkjær also their pride flag, in their profile picture...
0 likes@Lasse Grotkjær his PFP is the NB flag
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I’m non binary as well!
0 likesCool to everyone
0 likesWhat's non-binary?
0 likes@Moadot720 well technically he is a changeling so he could be a female
0 likes@Nandhini KJ pride flag in their* profile picture.
0 likes@Lucy Wood they* also changelings don’t appear to have a gender, maybe that’s why they chose a changeling to be their oc?
1 like@Nandhini KJ it is a flag that shows someone’s identity, gay, lesbian, transgender. You know you could really google it
0 likes@Nandhini KJ behind their character in their profile picture
1 like@Nandhini KJ yes, it’s the nonbinary flag. Also they call themself they/them. Because they are nonbinary. So don’t call sawtooth a he
1 like@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer mm yeah that's a good thought
0 likes@Lucy Wood what?
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you replied to me soemthing about changelings not really having genders so tahdt why they choose a changeling
1 like@Lucy Wood oh yeah, thanks
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer yup, also thanks for correcting me for saying he instead of they, I also might have said this sentence wrong
1 like@Rainbow Dragon non binary means you don’t identify as a girl or boy
0 likes@Gay Pumpkin ok
1 likeyup! his pfp is non binary flag also
0 likes@CozyFlurry their*
1 like@Margaret Bush then they need to do a really quick and easy google search.
0 likesEw
0 likes@Taku this is a problem I see often on LGBT channels. People watch their videos and shit but then when someone points out the fact they are LGBT the “hard man omega chads” in the comments are saying “ew”
3 likesIf you have a problem then why are you staying here? Fuck off if you don’t like the person making the content.
@Taku if you are going to be a transphobe why are you on a trans persons channel lol?
1 like@Taku ew to you too. Nice like to dislike ratio on your channel too, hard man.
1 likeI’m an ally x
2 likes@Laser beast Yay and nice 1 subscriber lmao
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ the person is trans your non binary? Cool I'm bisexual 😂 I find this funny
1 like@Dani cool :D I'm just bisexual and fond you very cool 😁
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I have a question, so if your born a gender arent you technically just told that like your told a girl or boy doesnt mean you actually are?idk if I'm confusing I'm just a kid sorry
0 likes@Vanessa im actually aro ace and agender now
0 likes@Vanessa you are born a sex. This sex is either male female or other (intersex) your gender is how you feel in your brain. Your gender can be what you want it to be and can change accordingly
1 like@Taku I thought you left
0 likes@Blaize Gottman ur right. All these idiots think they dont have a gender- btw sawtooth just lost a subscriber :/
0 likes@Joe Oldenburg what
1 likeI iz also non-binary :D
0 likesHow did u know he was non binary
0 likes@Jpxk._ they*
1 likeThey had the nonbinary flag in their PFP for pride month.
Also the fact they always call themself a they in their videos.
@Jpxk._ he said so
0 likesYour trans! That’s so cool! I’m genderfluid!!
0 likes@TheArcticFox :D what's gender fluid
1 like@☆StarGem22☆ I subscribed to you because of your name
1 likeI’m genderfluid
0 likes@Blaize Gottman lesbophobia pfp ew
0 likes@Blaize Gottman they* gods sake
2 likes@Joe Oldenburg you are either 6 or a trump supporter.
1 likeLook up bill nyes gender identity video where he explains it in a way you could understand.
@Joe Oldenburg oh also can I just say that you clearly have no idea what you are on about?
1 likeNonbinary is literally a gender lol. Agender is when somebody has no gender.
Ooh cool I’m Genderfluid ^^
0 likesI’m trans and bi
0 likes@• Generosity • not fully male or female. Demigirl, demiboy, genderfluid, etc are also nonbinary
1 like@RoobzToonz yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that <3
0 likesThat's not how it works.-.
1 likeCongratulations to you!!!!
1 likeLike him
0 likesLike her
0 likesLol im not non binary or trans or agender or anything, im just female
0 likes@Julia Fulcher that’s valid too
1 likeWhen did they say this???
0 likes@Nova their pfp was the nonbinary pride flag for pride month
2 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer ohhhh that's fair :) they're one of my favourite youtubers and I've watched them for years. I just missed May-Now so I'm rewatching it all :)
1 like@Nova non binary huh?
0 likes@Nova before sawtooth told everyone they are non binary?
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer =D
0 likesBecause they are the rulers of the Chrystal empire there are many things they have to do wich they sometimes rather not to.
0 likesAnd being the leader of the changeling makes it hard for thorax to spend some quality time with anyone.
0 likesAnd being the princess of friendship makes it hard for twilight and her friends to spend some quality time with each other. Because she is princess there are many things that she has to do Wich she sometimes rather not to.
0 likesSame!!
0 likesWait, when did they say that?
0 likes@Britt Sijm pride flag in their pfp in pride month
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Ohhh cool
0 likesLgbt support 💖🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
0 likes@Blaize Gottman Maybe you’re thinking of sex vs gender? Sex is usually the body you’re born in, and the chromosomes you’re born with, making you male or female (and sometimes intersex). However, Gender, which has nothing to do with the sex you’re born as, is how you internally perceive yourself and want to be perceived. You can be born with female or male chromosomes, but sometimes that really has no affect on what gender you may decide you identify as. (aka girl, boy, neither, and many other identities). As an example, you can be assigned female at birth, but realize during puberty that you’re a boy. Most people get surgeries and take hormones to change their body to physically match that of the other sex. To me, the most interesting part is that studies have shown the brains of trans people are physically identical to the brains of the gender they identify as rather than the brains of the sex they were assigned at birth. I hope that makes sense! if you’ve never heard of this stuff it can be admittedly pretty confusing in the beginning!
0 likes@Bug hmm interesting
0 likes@Julia Fulcher and I'm just male
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ what is agender I'm confused
1 like@Jenkins really
0 likes@• Generosity • so why do non binary people cross dress just curious
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer oh
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what the hell is man town
0 likes@Iris Huisman then what is gender fluid
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer also I'm 27 ok
0 likes@Iris Huisman ok
0 likes@Amber Slahlize so why don't some people identify as male or female
0 likes@Amber Slahlize aw
0 likes@Blaize Gottman SHAKFBD you are not 27 buddy you are like a preteen
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer so what do I refer sawtooth as
0 likes@Blaize Gottman man town is an expression
0 likes@Lucy Wood I'm more lost
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer or bing it
0 likes@Blaize Gottman well it's a lack of gender. Don't make the mistake of thinking it's the same as Non-binary binary! Non-binary is when you don't fit into the binary gender. It's an umbrella term and an identity in of it itself.
0 likes@Gay Pumpkin But why is that
0 likes@Vanessa what really
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ so you're not male or female anymore
1 like@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer they did what
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer funny thing is that Donald Trump supported the veterans also lesbophobia isn't a real word
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer not a real word
0 likes@Blaize Gottman Correct, though it would be more respectful to erase the "anymore" when you talk to an genderless person. I understand why you said! I'm not mad btw! I just want to inform you.
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm 27 ok
0 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer if you say so
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ now it's More confusing of what to refer someone as
1 like@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ uh what do you mean
0 likes@Blaize Gottman can you elaborate on what you mean?
0 likes@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ when you said erase the anymore part
0 likes@Blaize Gottman ok cool
0 likes@Blaize Gottman Well everyone’s different and also the way people dress doesn’t have to be the same as their gender it’s just what they feel comfortable wearing :)
0 likes@• Generosity • hmm ok it's all Good
0 likes@Julia Fulcher what is
0 likes@Blaize Gottman what is what?
0 likes@Julia Fulcher what do you mean
0 likes@Blaize Gottman do i really have to type it out for you
0 likes@Julia Fulcher idk why you do
0 likes@Blaize Gottman you make no sense
0 likes@Julia Fulcher cool
0 likes@Julia Fulcher I'm still confused
0 likes@Julia Fulcher now I realized I don't why I said what is I'm so dumb
0 likes@Blaize Gottman took you that long to realize?
0 likeslol i meant that in a jokeish tone btw
@Julia Fulcher it's all Good I was trying to figure out why I said that then I forgot why I said it in the first place I hate that so much
0 likes@Blaize Gottman lol
0 likes@Julia Fulcher what
0 likes@Blaize Gottman being genderfluid means feeling like a woman one moment, a man the next, and in some cases neither. Most people identify as just one gender their entire life, while genderfluid people tend to shift around
0 likes@Iris Huisman hmm ok
0 likes@Blaize Gottman because gender's not really a biological thing or like something physical(?)
0 likes@~KittyCathXp~ so then nobody has a gender after all
0 likes@Blaize Gottman no,they could have no gender
0 likes@~KittyCathXp~ but that makes no sense
0 likesYay 🏳️🌈
0 likes@Bug I was told the exact opposite
0 likesSo I am now confused.
I wanna figure out why all the other villains were able to take over their timelines, and how other villains didnt interfere. For example, Sombra took over the first timeline, why didnt chrysalis take advantage of this and try to join in? Why didnt discord snap his fingers and zap away chrysalis in her timeline? How did all the other villains handle the others. Discord was bound to find a way out during all the chaos, sombra was bound to retake his empire in chrysalis's timeline, so many villains paths should've intertwined and Im sure thats what happened in the last destroyed timeline twilight ended up at where there was nothing there but what about the others?
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perhaps this will be addressed in the next video 👀
107 likes@Sawtooth Waves Nice theory man! It`s also possible that as more and more alternate timelines were created, the multiverse and reality themselves started to weaken. Perhaps that last timeline had self destructed. Perhaps the reality bending alternated the timelines on its own. Still, this is all speculation, I will leave the theorizing to you.
20 likesI forgot who, but there's someone who made a pretty compelling theory on how each timeline came to be. I'm sure you can still find the video somewhere
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves wanna know what I think? It could be that if Twilight stayed a little longer in those time lines we could see two villains clash. But she was in a hurry. That’s why we didn’t get to see two of the villains fight. And the last time line could be when all the villains clashed together and the constant fighting destroyed Equestria. Or it could be the dragons which I find more likely since everything was covered in ashes for miles which could be caused by the fire breathe of the dragons.
8 likesI think that the last timeline, is where EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN, from the beginning of the show, to the episodes before Shadow Play parts 1&2, that the Mane Six, Shining Armour & Cadence, The Royal Sisters, or somepony else dealt with, banished, or otherwise got rid of, all came back at the same time and the resulting fight ended up either destroying Equestria and the villains ending up dead, or a HUGE magic blast that resulted in the destruction of both Equestria, AND the villains!
5 likes@Night Star or they all appeared at the same time and fought each other to rule Equestria. And the constant fighting destroyed Equestria. So there was no point fighting since Equestria was destroyed so they stopped fighting and went their separate ways.
1 likeI have a theory that specific villains winning due to different actions Starlight took wasn't random.
8 likesTimeline 1 was the basic 'no rainboom'. Somehow, NMM got defeated (reforming spell?), Discord doesn't get freed during the field trip somehow as a result of the NMM events, and Chrys's alternative plan fails. But without Twilight and Spike being exactly where they are, Sombra reaches the Crystal Heart before Cadance and revves himself fully, leading to the war.
Timeline 2 is caused by Starlight giving a lecture about bullying/equality. These three ponies carrying these ideas could lead the wrong people to be too trusting at the wrong moment, letting Chrys's alternative plan succeed
Timeline 3: The ponies watch the Magic Fight instead of racing. Due to this exposure to magical might early on, RAINBOW DASH SWITCHES SIDES during Nightmare Moon's return. With a greater military might, Nightmare Moon's Equestria defeats Chrysalis AND Sombra
Timeline 4: Dash got tripped. Might still have performed the Rainboom but lost the race. This somehow results in a version of events where everything is the same as the show but Dash doesn't receive the Wonderbolt pin in rainbow falls. No key, no opening of the box, Tirek wins.
Timeline 5: Dash got hit with Twilight's spell. Dash now holds a grudge against Magic/Unicorns. In Canterlot for a Wonderbolt event of some sort (the Gala?) she gets heated and frees Discord early.
Timeline 6: Fluttershy wins the race. Fluttershy becomes a more confident flyer, lives a healthier lifestyle, Dash gets the last cup of cider in Season 2 instead of Fluttershy. Dash doesn't kick up a stink about there not being enough. No Cider-making competition. Flim and Flam get their hooves into the market with a much more legitimate-looking angle and actually get successful in Ponyville instead of Las Pegasus. Instead of turning to the hotel/scamming business, they stick to industry, and capitalism destroys Equestria
Timeline 7: Dash actually injured/dead. The Dragon in Dragonshy isn't moved and Equestria is covered in ash, just like Celestia warned.
@Sawtooth Waves yay!!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves hi
1 like@Claire Leibel But Tirek could've beaten Nightmare moon and Sombra could've beaten her as well. It took both sisters to defeat sombra so I imagine he could've beaten her relatively easily alone. That being said something had to happen
1 likeMakes sense that Saw is NB. Their a changeling. Their species can be all the genders.
511 likesEdit: congrats on coming out as non binary! I looooooove your vids
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4 likesI see why they are a changeling. Because they are a nonbinary.
13 likesSo are hypogriphs, what kind of point were you trying to make here?
2 likes@Amber Slahlize what they were probably trying to say is that changelings can literally change into anything and anyone. they can change into the form of a mare, stallion, neither or anything in between. hippogriffs can only turn into seaponies and vice versa (and that's only with a special artifact). as a changeling it's easier to "transition," or fit into a form you're most comfortable with. does that make sense? ^^'
24 likespinkie gasp changelings are gender fluid-
12 likesWhich is exactly why my oc is also a changeling
2 likes@Amber Slahlize Stop being so offended. They just said that it's logical that changelings are nonbinary because they change into whoever they want...
2 likes@Emy Chara Not a logical argument.
0 likes@Bright New Future Changelings only disguise themselves in order to trick their prey into giving them love, otherwise the queen was truly Cadence in A Canterlot Wedding.
0 likesThere might be a different purpose to it now that they have reformed, but that doesn't change how their powers work.
It's ridiculous to assume changelings can do something without some kind of proof first.
@Tanisha Ahmed that's the gender they were assigned with at birth
0 likes@Tanisha Ahmed He is. Being a man just doesn't always suit his "mood".
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likes@weebstuckMinecraft it was their pfp for june
0 likesSo what I’m getting from this is...
154 likesRainbow Dash is the most important character in the entire show?
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Plot Twist!
5 likesno fluttershy is
0 likesbut I hate both of them
Pretty much, he caused celestia to like twilight so much and caused the mane 6 to get their cutie marks so
3 likes@Astrinomicall *she, Rainbow Dash is a girl.
8 likes@Mahek Khan sometimes I forget AppleJack and RainbowDash are mares
1 like@My An Nguyen Lol, I personally never had that confusion, I believe they're girly enough but also strong and have characteristics generally attributed to males. Rainbow Dash is my favourite character, I could go on and on about that, but not really relevant to your reply.
6 likes@Mahek Khan I think it's because their voice actress has kind of like a higher pitch masculine voice that's also raspy
0 likesSo basically the Rainboom is like The Big Bang of the MLP universe and caused everything to happen.
499 likesThat simple enough?
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pretty much
12 likesYup.
10 likesGod created Equestria
8 likesMhm
4 likesMeaning rainbow dash is the cause of everything
10 likes@ayn Yep
4 likes@Olle Selin only if god=lauren faust
0 likesBazinga
0 likesYup that’s simple enough…maybe toooo simple…🤔🤔🤔
0 likesCan you please make a theory about the color of the unicorn magic?
533 likesMaybe siblings have the same color. Twighlight and Shining Armor for example have the same color. And Flim and Flam too.
But why not Celestia and Luna?
Maybe the color has something to do with the cutie marks. When Starlight switched Luna's and Celestia's cutie marks, the color of their magic got switched too...
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Ooh I like that idea! :3
19 likes@just_ari._. same!
6 likesI think its more just destiny-cutiemark magic sort of thing. Flim and Flam were destined together, Twilight and Shining had destinies regarding Equestria, and Celestia has a destiny to rule as the sun pony while luna is of the moon
55 likesOoo cool idea!
2 likes@Starsoul Studios oooo cool theory
5 likesI had a theory about this too.
38 likesExamples:
Cadance's color: Cyan. why? the crystal heart's color.
Twi's: Mangenta. I'm pretty sure that before she met her friends, her magic was light purple, like her coat, but when she met the other 5, it turned the color of her element of harmony.
Flurry Heart: Yellow. In the windows in the future episode, she has yellow magic. like sawtooth once said, if cadance is love, flurry is light. light is usually artistically shown as yellow.
Rarity: Cyan. Her cutie mark is cyan.
but that's just a theory. a HORSE THEORY!
@skylar sukitan ! ☆ i actually REALLY like this theory
9 likes@Starsoul Studios aw thank you!
4 likesI thought it had something to do with eye and mane color.
9 likes@White Fire The Dragon can you expand on this theory?
3 likes@skylar sukitan ! ☆ Oh, it's just based on observation. I noticed that Rarity's magic is the same color as her eyes, Twilight's is the same as the magenta streaks in her mane, and Sunset's magic used to be the same as her eyes, but after Starlight was introduced, it was changed to match the red in her hair.
15 likesYeah, except for some rare animation mistakes, the magic color has virtually always been a color in their cutiemark. Gives us a sneak peak into baby ponies's cutie mark colors!! So if Big Mac had magic, it would be green, and if AJ had magic, it would probably be red
10 likesYesss
0 likes@Heather Toomey that's really cool!!
0 likesPersonally, I think the colour can be controlled by the unicorn itself. That’s why Twilight didn’t suspect Cadence clone’s magic colour change in the Season 2 finale. And why Sunset has her magic colour changed from turquoise to red.
10 likesAnd maybe some siblings have the same colour because they want to have the same colours
I think the that depends on their eye colour, u see twilight has pinkish eyes and so is her magic colour, same about rarity it is blue and Luna dark blue n so on
4 likes@Jackie Joestar how about sunset?
3 likes@Hello it is turquoise just like her eye colur
1 likeI think it sometimes is the color of their cutie marks and other times it is the color of their eyes from what I noticed
3 likesI think they can't see the horn magic color I think they are meant show us the viewer who is who.
3 likes@Jackie Joestar I mean like why it switched (the producers said it’s sth about reforming but we need to think about in the mlp universe 🤣🤣
2 likes@Hello in what colour it changed?
2 likesThe color of one's magic is usually either their eye color or their cutie mark's color. On occasion we have a few ponies whose magic isn't either color, but it's uncommon.
4 likesMaybe the destinded thing could be the answer but still celestia and luna were destined to rule rogether
3 likes@Jackie Joestar red (see mirror magic)
2 likesIt depends on there cutie mark colour.
2 likes@Maki it kinda varies from other ponies
0 likesI’m sure it has to do with their cutie marks, but then there’s the case of Sweetie Belle. Her cutie mark is red, purple, and pink but her magic is green.
4 likesOmg YES! THIS!
1 like@Autumn Rose Yes! I've been looking for you I love the cutiemark and matching their destiny theory but Sweetie Belle jus throws that theory out the window
3 likesI thought magic was related to eye color?
4 likesOo yess!
1 like@skylar sukitan ! ☆ oo I like it
0 likesby the way did u ever see twi’s magic light purple? just asking ^^
@CozyFlurry Well uh-
2 likesI need to re-watch it, but I think that Twi’s magic color was purple in the first few scenes in the pilot episode- Still need to check tho, lol-
Also Starlight did not only change their cutie marks she also changed their abilities so they got each others magic
3 likesbut, from what we've seen, sweetie bell's magic color is green, while rarity's is blue.
3 likesno shining armour has more of a pink color and twilight has more of a purpple color
2 likesMy theory is if your cutie mark has something to do with your magic, your magic color will be the same as your cutie mark. Shining Armour has the same purple star as twilight does, that's why their magic colors are the same. They're both magically gifted. For the twins, I'm pretty sure their eyes are the same color as their magic. They seem to do anything an average unicorn does. I could be wrong but it's something I thought of. One of the ponies I could see this not working with is Luna, who is magically excellent, but her magic is the same color as her eyes.
1 likeAs usual Sawtooth you came up with a good theory to a very good question, but of course lots of other things would've never happened had Cadence and Shining Armor had never met like they would've never defeated Sombra and saved the Crystal Empire and of course Flurry Heart would've never been born either.
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Very true
1 likeStill funny how this whole theory just fell apart
0 likesThis makes total sense because since I would imagine that Cadence was still living with Celestia at the time, if that was the case, then Celestia would have Cadence to look after Twilight when she wasn't studying for experiments or stuff for class, and then Cadence and Shining would meet, become friends and then fall in love!
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Except that-
0 likesAll of that just instantly fell apart
sawtooth nonbinary? makes perfect sense, having a changeling oc is very Gender. you are awesome please continue to be awesome! (also the nb pride flag is so pretty woahg)
58 likesSawtooth waves: makes a theory video
227 likesCadence: ah shit, here we go again
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Lol, cadence might be nervous while seeing this right?
8 likesCadance*
2 likes@Afshan Sabri Cadance*
0 likes@Sagrika Bali I spelled her name wrong?
0 likesCould you not curse please?-
1 like@ukiyo sorry, but it’s just a meme
1 like@Jua Cruz it's OK, I don't mind
1 likeGO SAWTOOTH
82 likesCOMING OUT AS NON BINARY
EXTREME RESPECT
So you're non-binary, Sawtooth?
14 likesTo be honest, I thought you were hinting at something like that from that flower in your hair, but I didn't want to assume anything.
I love it when a community figure turns out to be a representative of the LGBTQ+ community. A bit of rainbow pride is always nice to see.
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i would like to have a more fem appearance in the future but the flower is the easiest and cutest for now ^^ thank you so much for your support /)
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves No problem.
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves ur so cool
1 likeHappy Pride Month! I've been watchimg you since I was 5 and I'm so happy that there is another openly non-binary creator on this platform! 💕💛🤍💜🖤💖
3 likesThis theory makes a lot of sense but wouldn’t twilight had her cutie mark before shining met cadence or maybe twilight got it after
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nope nope nope
1 like@Christine Dawson what do you mean?
0 likesCrystal Bloom I think what they mean is that if the rainboom didn’t happen, twilight wouldn’t get her cutie mark then (later). It makes sense since when the rainboom happened, twilight got that magic and got her cutie mark the exact same time.
1 like@Gacha Dashing oh ok thx
0 likesON NO NO NO NO NO EEEEEEEEEEENOPE
0 likesExcept she didn't have her cutiemark when she was foalsat
1 likeI know this is a bit off topic but .
28 likesMeaning of the mane six’s names and how they describe the ponies themselves
Pinkie pie : a pink pony who makes pie and the colour pink which represents happiness
Fluttershy : a Pegasus who is shy
Rainbow dash : a rainbow coloured pony who did the sonic rainboom and can fly really fast
Rarity : Diamonds are rare and thats her cutie mark
Applejack : an earth pony whose job is to PICK up apples
Twilight : Balance between the sun and the moon
If anyone knows the meanings of other ponies names then pls reply and if you agree with the theory above pls like this comment .... Thank you 😊 !!!!!
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Lunna means moon
0 likesI love how subtle sawtooth is about being NB because that’s not the important thing about them ❤️
13 likesI'm non binary and knowing someone else in the My Little pony community is AWESOME
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Same
5 likesWhy?
4 likesHappy Pride Month Everyone! (I'm bi)
5 likesHe’s binary 😕?
3 likes@wild Dream I'm bisexual
2 likes@wild Dream they* they use they/them pronouns.
4 likes@Sakisasvictorianmask wdym why
0 likes@lazuli🫐 Why would it be great to know someone else is "non-binary" in such a huge community?
0 likes@wild Dream *they’re
0 likesWe never asked for the YouTube channel.
47 likesBut now that it’s there we wouldn’t imagine what we would do without them.
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Ye! Also Im not sure if you know, but Sawtooth is non binary and goes by they/them pronouns, not he/him. In the future please use the correct pronouns when referring to them
9 likesI'm my channel means that much to you!! :0
13 likes@Sawtooth Waves I think you missed a word.
4 likes@Sawtooth Waves Ty for hearting! And yes your channel is so addicting lol.
2 likes@Charlotte Cherrington 1: the background of their pfp is the non binary flag
3 likes2: if you go to their channel and to the About tab you’ll see they say they are non binary with they/them pronouns
@Sawtooth Waves oo
0 likes:)
0 likesCongrats for coming out as enby! I’m glad that you’re that comfortable with your audience! I’m also non-binary, but considering demiboy. I love your videos by the way! Keep up the good work, you’re one of, if not my favorite youtuber!
1 likeSomething to note, BTW: one of the earlier comic arcs was an origin story for Cadence and Shining's relationship, as they both attended the same high school. It even shows that Cadence was doing the whole foalsitting thing as a legit part-time job, Celestia not included.
4 likesCongrats on coming out as non-binary! I support you!
3 likesYour amazing Sawtooth, being brave enough to come out to us, a bunch of strangers on the internet 🥺🥺🥺
2 likesLove ya Sawtooth
These videos are always so interesting! I have no idea how you come up with such thought-provoking ideas.
2 likesAlso, I didn’t know you were nb! Sorry, if I misgendered you in the past! I’m asexual myself :D
We need to talk about the time travel loop Twilight said she was in during that one Equestria Girls movie.
12 likesAllie here, i want everyone reading this to know you are excepted and loved please dont feel pressured to change who you are for someone else, please always be true to yourself.
4 likesHello, Mx. Waves! I had no idea you were non binary! Congrats! I'd wave a flag, but the emojis are limited in their pride flag selection. All they have is rainbow gay flag and pink blue and white trans flag. That bites.
5 likesOoh! I know! heres me showing support!
Ally to all ->🟨⬜️🟪⬛️ including you!
AWSOME VIDEO! ALSO UR PFP MADE ME FEEL STRONGER ABOUT MYSELF Because I'm NB myself!
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Same!!!! :D
10 likesYESSS
6 likesI hope y'all non-binaries feel comfortable by coming out as who you are. I'm just a normal hetero girl, but I support u guys and all of the others. Happy Pride Month!
36 likes@Shivi Srivastava thank you! Happy pride month fellow ally!
8 likes@star jay 😊
2 likes@Shivi Srivastava as a fellow hetero, i would like to ask you something (if you don't mind that is). Um, what do you think of the increased activity of the LGBT community? Like the parade activity on the streets, rainbow colors on almost every big companies logo there are (and the threatening of boycotting in case the companies didn't do it), spreading their ideology throughout every media there is (tv shows, games, comics), and many other things? I understand that they want their rights to be embraced and want to be free from discrimination and bullying, but i think that would have gone a lot smoother if they know their limits and not just over do everything. You know what i'm saying?
5 likesSame!
1 likeYooooo i didn't even notice, that's neat!
1 likeI'm not but I love the pfp I sopport and I'm lgbtq to
1 likeME TOO I WAS LIKE IS HE NB TOO???!!!!
1 likeOkay would anyone mind telling me what a nonbinary is?
2 likes@Rosella oh it's pronouns they/them there not a boy or girl
4 likes@Rosella it can be used both as a gender identity and an umbrella term for anyone who isn't strictly a guy or girl. Basically it means someone who doesn't identify with the gender binary, aka the "only two genders" mindset. Non Binary, as in, not part of the binary. I don't know if that's a good enough explanation so if anyone else wants to give it a go please do.
11 likes@Tom Sparrow so the kind of person who can’t be identified as a girl or a boy is a nonbinary?
4 likes@Rosella yeah, although there are other more specific labels that can mean that in ways. Labels are kind of like clothes, imo, they come in all shapes and sizes and some of them can be very similar and only by trying them on and seeing how they fit you specifically, you can know for sure which ones you wanna keep. (i hope that metaphor makes as much sense written down as it does in my head). Honestly there are "official" definitions out there online if you look them up. Obviously there's no one stop shop authority on all the labels in the queer community (there's a wiki but that doesn't mean everything that's written there is 100% accurate all the time) but i think those sources are a little more reliable than the opinion of just one person, even if that person (me) is non binary themself. I also happen to have a second gender label in addition to non binary so i feel like my relationship to gender is different to someone who identifies only as non binary.
2 likes@Rosella yeah they just think there a normal human being thats just living life if that makes sense and they go by they/them but they dont claim themselfs of male , female gender
0 likes@Rosella if someone calls them " you look like a girl to me so ima call you " she/ her " thats misgendering them being transphobic
1 like@Tom Sparrow it’s much more clearer now, thanks 😊
1 likeYeah!
0 likes@Rosella no problem, always happy to help and have an excuse to go off about how weird gender is for like an hour 😅😂
4 likes@Tom SparrowI see😁😁😁😁😁😁
1 likeSAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LOL
0 likesSameee
0 likes@Hiccy69 it's like you're asking her if she's homophobic lmao
1 likeI also noticed his Profile Pic! When I saw it, I was like, "YES!", because I support LGBTQ+ and I know someone who is NB!
2 likes@CottonCandiez do you seriously think we're going overboard and need to slow down gay acceptance? That's what the comment said
2 likes@Hiccy69 I'm Indian, so I dont know anything about all that. I just know that in India, the LGBTQ+ community is VERY looked down upon. They dont exactly have a good reputation in India
2 likes@Shivi Srivastava same here in Indonesia. I want to respect them and i also want my people to respect them. They don't have to support, just don't hate. But, it is kinda hard when the group that you want to respect keep shoving their ideology down other people's throat without the concern of those who don't like it. We don't need our source of entertainment filled with gay characters, we don't need our everyday products to have rainbow colors on it, we don't need a parade on the streets with naked people dancing with rainbow painted all over their body.
0 likes@Hiccy69 limits? we shouldn’t have limits. we demand respect, and big companies are able to normalize it.
3 likes@Joy respect is earned, not demanded. You want respect? Respect other first. Stop shoving your ideology down people's throat like it is the most important thing in the world. Yes, there will be supporter, but there will also be haters. In fact, those who once respect you and consider you as fellow normal human, many of them now have rebel against you. You know why? Because they have had enough with how your campaign interfere with their personal lives. They want to watch cartoon or tv shows? Boom, lesbian and gay couple. They want to play a fantastic game? Boom, bisexual characters. They want to socialize with people? Boom, got raped by gay people. You see? The problem is not that we don't want to respect you, the problem is that YOU make it hard for US to respect YOU.
2 likesWhat’s NB?
0 likesAyyy Non-binary squad :3
0 likesIkr but I’m pan
0 likesSAMEE
0 likes@Shivi Srivastava yeee I'm indian but live in the uk so ok what its like, ppl in India just have a mentality that you shouldn't be lgbtq+
1 like@Amber non-binary, it means you didn't have a gender
0 likes@Hiccy69 theres like a bajillion things wrong with this comment, like how does a gay couple being on tv interfere with ppls lives, it could educate ppl about lgbtq+ community and if u don't like it, TURN IT OFF like srsly just stop🖕
4 likes@devi odedra basically, yeah. And those who are born trans or non binary are thrown out of society and forced to live in torment :(
3 likesSupporting lgbtq+ makes stronk person
0 likesbut,forcing companies to make your logo's rainbow? No
@devi odedra ohhhh ok ty for the explanation! 💜💜💜
0 likesSame!!
0 likesI'm nb too and this is the first comment I saw before I looked at the pfp and almost had a heart attack
0 likesI absolutely love this I can't believe I didn't watch this video sooner
@Shivi Srivastava awe thanks, it means a lot when I see support coming from all sides. I hope you have a great day, month, and year.
0 likesSeeing his pfp is why I changed mine on all platforms. I saw other people doing it, but specifically after his I'm like aight time to put the agender flag behind all my pfps
0 likes@ᚺᛖ᛫ᚹᚺᛟ᛫ᛒᚱᛁᛜᛊ᛫ᚦᛖ᛫ᚹᚨᛊᛏᛖ᛫ᛟᚠ᛫ᛏᛖᚱᚱᚨ THIS (btw what i mean is companies shouldnt be completely forced to change their branding BUT can use their public image-is that what its called?- to support thr community
0 likes@Zane Does Everything :)
0 likes@°müšĥròom° Not all Non binaries have they/them pronouns.
2 likes@Hiccy69 yikes, the homophobia. Imagine telling gay people it's their fault people are homophobic💀
6 likes@Toby oh yes diy don't one use he/them or she/them?
0 likesIf you actually listened to what @Hiccy69 said and wouldn't automatically call him homophobic you'd see he has a point. Not to mention you're kinda proving it calling him homophobic. The thing is, movie companies and whatever may feel forced to have lgbt couples even though it's not neccessary for the plot or downright ruining it. Look at feminism and the new doctor who or whatever. They forced the female doctor and now the movie is bad. It's not because the doctor is a woman, it's because her character was trash which corelated to the influence from the feminists. There are really cool lgbt+ people but some exploit the amount of power you guys have. For the better or for worse. I hope I made some sense atleast, sending love!
0 likes@Aviko thank you for supporting me. I have no problem with LGBT people, but only if they can learn to respect others and know their limits. Yes, they are allowed to protest whenever their rights being violated with no real reason and they are allowed to demand for equality. But must they do it so forcefully? Invading our privacy and our sources of entertainment? There are better ways you know, not just bad ways
1 likeI suggest watching "Everything wrong with woke culture" by Baggage Claim. It is about feminism but some of the stuff can be said about the lgbt comunity even out of the context of movie making.
0 likes@°müšĥròom° me too and subscribe to me ❤️
0 likesme tooooo!
0 likes@°müšĥròom° that's demigirl and demiboy, they're under the non-binary umbrella but it's a bit different from non-binary.
0 likes@cowboy Oh ok so he /them is demi boy ok
0 likesSAME!!!
0 likes@Hiccy69 It isn’t an “ideology” people are born that way they can’t help it hope I helped some way :)
2 likesAlso we are allowed representation too after years of feeling like there is something wrong with us... maybe not every single thing but there needs to be a balance so everyone is represented be it race, orientation, gender etc also I don’t think companies should turn everything rainbow for pride if they do nothing for lgbtq+ people... it’s mostly performative activism and for money and I don’t really agree with that
@Hiccy69 Oh, I'm sorry that we want to be represented as well. For ages, the media was filled with cishet people and characters. And even if someone was made canon as anything other than cishet, it was almost always by tweeting things into canon, the character getting killed off, etc etc. Even in media, anything other than cishet was treated as a second class human. Heck, even in real life, this mentality still exists. For a lot of people in the LGBT+ community, cishet culture was shoved down their throat and they were taught that anything other than that was "sinful". They have had to hide who they are for the sake of some bigots' comfort. And more importantly, for their own safety. People get raped, killed, beaten up, mistreated purely for their sexuality or gender identity.
4 likesAnd I certainly am not saying that cases of LGBT+ people raping other people don't exist. I believe that those cases unfortunately exist. But those people should not be lumped in with people who just want to have the right to exist without fear of abuse or getting killed for who they are.
Also, WE are shoving our beliefs down YOUR throat? Might I perhaps introduce you to various religions? Stuff that had entire wars centered around shoving their belief down other people's throat?
But no, it's fine when a Jehovah witness keeps harassing some atheist. Yet the moment someone says "I'm gay" or "I'm not cis", everyone outrages over how we're shoving our beliefs down other people's throats and blablabla.
We want to be represented, have the same rights as cishet people, want to be protected against discrimination, not seen as the other or the outcast and be able to be our true self.
Let's take my little pony friendship is magic as an example. At the end of the series, a few ships were made canon. Pinky and cheese sandwich were portrayed as married with a kid. Discord and fluttershy were pretty clearly in a relationship. I don't remember who rarity ended up with.
But rainbow dash and applejack were only vaguely hinted to be living together. No explicit language that they're in a relationship, like with pinky and cheese.
So many shows are just too afraid of showcasing LGBT+ characters because bigots start whining about the one character not being cishet. These shows think that it's better to just not bother, because their LGBT+ fans won't raise a stink about it.
It's like portraying a person of color. You wouldn't whine about that, because it's discrimination. Yet it's okay to be so bigoted about one gay character or one asexual or any character from the LGBT+ community? Even if they are just the token character with no further characteristics than "they're a member of this community"? Which honestly isn't even acceptable representation. Because sexuality or gender identity isn't the only thing that makes someone who they are.
Take me for example. I'm bisexual. I feel attracted to male and female. Right now I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend. Most people assume I'm straight because I, a female, am dating a male. So when someone comments on how I'm straight and I explain that I'm bi, the correct response would be to apologize and correct yourself. I identity as bisexual and you'd be a bigot if you comment on how I "don't look bi".
It's like walking up to a person with, say, autism. You might not notice they have it. So when the topic would come up, you'd be a bigot for saying that someone doesn't look autistic.
And you want to know why the LGBT+ community is rioting or protesting? It's because that's the only way we get those rights. A lot of the rights we have today are BECAUSE of those riots. Most notably, Stonewall. Those riots were by black lesbians fighting for rights.
If you don't want us to riot, have a polite conversation with us about our necessities and rights. And then actually give us those necessities and rights. So many places in the world still have laws that makes it legal to discriminate against members of the LGBT+ community.
I encourage you to do some research before continuing to whine about our needs for the same rights that white cishets have enjoyed for ages. And think about why we behave the way we do.
And if you somehow still don't understand us or our actions and beliefs, just ask us.
And if you still have a "cishet first" mentality and a stubborn unwillingness to learn, you don't have the right to complain when you get called out on it.
Good places to start are Lilly Orchard/Lilly Peet and Powered By Rainbows. These channels are personally involved and part of the LGBT+ community and have multiple videos on topics related to the community. With Lilly, it's the videos about Orchard Blossom and a video called Slurred Speech in particular. With Powered By Rainbows, it's basically all their videos. I mostly recommend the video explaining all pride flags as a good place to start. And if you prefer learning through memes, you might want to check out One Topic At A Time. He himself isn't part of the community, but supports the community and tries to learn about it through memes. His videos tend to be more lighthearted and wholesome rather than direct and serious.
Good luck with your learning experience!
@Beep boop first, i appreciate that you want to spend your time in order to typing in all of these words just to prove your points. Second, i don't really mind if i ever met non-straight people, either that through social media or real life. I won't bully or discriminate them. I'll just let them live their lifes as they see fit. Third, the reason why i want you guys to know your limits in spreading your ideology, is because not only you have more supporters, you also have more haters each and every day. I live in Indonesia, so i know how high the rate of homophobic here. And you know what? Most of them, at first, didn't have any problem with you guys. But the more you act without caution, the more their hatred grows. Not to mention other homophobic countries. So yeah, if you just know your limits, there is a chance that they won't bother you. Sure, they maybe will never support you, but hey, at least thats better than being hated more and more. You have to realized that not everyone will accept or liked your ideology. I'm not typing this comment out of hatred, but rather, as a warning. I hope you get my point. Have a nice day mate
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2 likesI appreciate that you're concerned about us. And I will admit that not everyone in the community is going about things the same way. A portion of us do need to chill out a bit and others (such as truscum. Hope I spelled it correctly) are outright trying to make it worse for the community.
But more characters from the community in media, better education on various sexualities and gender identities, less discrimination and more rights are very important.
More LGBT+ people in the media for representation because it helps people with coming out of the closet, learning that their existence isn't bad, knowing that they are not alone or weird and having someone to look up to.
Better education for normalizing relationships and identities other than cishet, preventing bullying and suicide, helping people know themselves better and preventing identity crisis.
Less discrimination and more rights because we are people too. No matter the skin color, gender identity, sexuality or anything else, we are all humans. And we all deserve the same rights. I don't believe that the LGBT community should have more rights than cishet people. Rather, I believe we deserve equal rights, even if they are expressed a bit different.
For example, cishet couples are allowed to marry and adopt kids. A gay couple should have the same rights.
People with vitamin deficiency or people wanting to loose weight can have pills and surgery for those things. A transgender person should have the same rights. I mean, cishet people are allowed to have surgery to make their boobs bigger, so why should a trans woman not be allowed to have a surgery to get boobs?
And in a lot of countries, LGBT+ people do have a lot or all of the same rights as cishet people. But a lot of counties is not all countries. We still have a long way to go and we're not gonna get there by silently living in the closet. That would make pride Month a very boring month XD
Everyone has their own way of doing things. So when criticizing a group of people that uses too extreme methods, criticize the method. And if you do criticize LGBT+ people for going too far, criticize those that indeed go too far and try to keep an open mind to those who know the limits.
I don't mean to accuse you or come of as hateful to you. I intend to encourage you to learn about us, remind you to keep an open mind to those who mean no harm and not let the actions of a few color your view of the entire community.
@Beep boop that is literally what i have been trying to tell the homophobic in my country. Try to respect others, don't discriminate, accept them as equal. But, oh no, once they said "LGBTQ is bad, no matter what" they meant it. They may think that LGBT is bad, but that doesn't mean the people are bad as well. In fact, i have seen you guys done so many act of kindness that sometimes, even better than straight people. Hopefully, this world someday will be better, with homophobic starting to respect LGBT people, and LGBT people starting to not keep shoving their ideology through other people's throat and respecting privacy.
1 like@Hiccy69
4 likesYeah. I believe that future will come someday. Despite there always being a few bad apples in any community, I believe that someday in the future LGBT+ people will be seen as normal. That we have equal rights. Just like with how writing with your left hand is seen as normal.
I once saw a post that shows how it should be. A child asks their mom "why doesn't everyone in my class have two moms or two dads? ". And the mother explained it as followed. She said " You know how some people write with their left hand? " The child awnsered with a yes, to which the mom said "having two moms or two dads is like writing with your left hand. It's rarer, but not any better or worse"
It went like that. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but that's the gist of it. I know someday people will see the LGBT+ community in the same or a similar way. It's just a matter of time. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later
@Hiccy69 oh wow.. so u think being queer is an ideology
4 likes@Aviko bestie i do not know how to tell you that having gay characters is not a bad thing
1 like@Hiccy69 i also don't know how to tell you that seeing gay characters on TV isn't invading your privacy and entertainment
1 like@lemonqvartz i think you misunderstand. What i meant by "ideology" is how a way of life being represented and shared. Either that through forming a community, online media, big company supports, etc.
0 likes@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno its okay, you don't have to. I'm the one who feel it, and i don't know how to explain it to other people either.
0 likes@Hiccy69 actually, i think what you're feeling is just called "homophobia"
1 like@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno "oh, what a lovely conversation that we are having right now. Do you want some tea? Oh nevermind, there is probably some poison in there since i am a homophobic, so that means i am the bad guy." Just because i don't support the LGBT movement, that doesn't mean that i am a homophobic.
0 likes@Hiccy69 i'm gay, it literally does. You don't get to tell a gay person what is and isn't homophobic
3 likes@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno and you don't get to tell people who to hate and who to love. I choose who i want to love and who i want to hate. Just the lucky thing that i don't hate gay people. But i might if you continue to act like an asshole and twisting my words every now and then.
0 likes@Hiccy69 i'm not sorry that I called out your homophobia. Bye
3 likes@Lautaro Roldan Pizzorno hah, what a coward. You didn't even have any solid argument and just twisting my words every now and then. Gay or not, you are a worthless being
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame
0 likes@Hiccy69 It's not really "shoving ideology down people's throats", though. I don't think companies being forced to make their logos rainbow and stuff is good, but I disagree with most of your other points. Being heterosexual and cisgender is normalised, so most people don't mind seeing that in popular media and irl. However, LGBTQ+ people have been underepresented (or not represented at all) for a very long time, so now we're changing that. Cishet representation is hardly ever looked down upon because it seems so natural for it to be there, whereas LGBTQ+ representation isn't as widespread and is a relatively new thing. LGBTQ+ people are just normal people, though, so they should be treated as such, which is why seeing them represented should be just as natural as cishet people. :)
2 likes@andystellar two words: "opinion" and "facts". Heterosexual is normalized throughout the media because it is the natural and best way to express your needs of sexuality. Which of course, it is a fact. Like how humans need to drink, eat and breathe to survive. On the other hands, there are still so many debates about the good and bad of LGBTQ community. Each sides have their own opinion. Each sides have their own facts that they believe is right. Each sides have been on this debate war for many years now. Like how some people like to eat vegetables, while others like to eat meats.
0 likesI'M LATE BUT SAME
1 like@Hiccy69 okay, okay. Assigned female at birth trixic nonbinary person here, trying to understand both sides of the argument. I think I understand what you mean by shoving ideology down throats, and what you probably are getting at is all these companies making LGBTQ+ "merch" in June. This is because June is Pride Month, and large corporations want teenagers to consume their products. Trust me, queer folks don't like it either, because it's completely degrading the Stonewall riots to nothing but rainbows and loud screaming about pride (and doing nothing to actually help closeted gay kids in discriminating families) and the second June ends they're going to go back to doing nothing once again. You know why people dislike it? Because it's big corporations pretending to care. It's a big show and nobody likes it. I understand that. However, movies, books, and songs about LGBTQ+ people are NOT shoving ideology down people's throats. You should take a look at some content creators who are actually LGBTQ+! For example Jazmin Bean is a pansexual nonbinary teenager who makes very nice rock music and is also a makeup artist. And they're not shoving their sexuality down people's throats at all. The only people doing that are SJWs (who we ALSO dislike) on Twitter and big corporations like Target and Disney.
0 likes@Pink Addy's Tea Shoppe for the company part, i did hear some rumor about the threat of boycotting if the company didn't agree to be a part of LGBT celebration (which i think is very wrong). However, those company did exploit and used the LGBT campaign as a mean to gain more profit and never really cared about the rights or suffering of LGBT people. Now, i do think each sides had their own reasons to did all those things, and i will try to be as neutral as possible here. For the content creator part, i actually don't really cared about their connection with the LGBT community. As long as they followed the law and rules, have actual talents, and not stealing or cheating, i'm completely fine with that.
1 like@Beep boop yes you’ll get respect but you must not force it you need to ease it if you don’t than all you are left with is protests against you
1 like@Beep boop pride month is a bloody day in my country the day when March and parade commences but but 🏳️🌈 are not being hurt they are little bit hurting others in my country the one of the most suffering countries in worlds history from most of its origins cough* Georgia and in it the day of pride mounts is an almost civil war you need to give up in some countries because people in them don’t like your ideology mostly orthodox country’s they are rioting against all of you that are in my country not others about others they don’t care they well they want to be left alone without 🏳️🌈 trying to replace every other or convert all into it in my country that is happening you can exist but continued actions that go ever board in some countries if you don’t give up they will make you give up be careful and why did I say to you to be careful well expressing sure but over expressing in countries were people literally all most start a civil war you should give up its only hope of survival for you because if you continue other countries will take notice of that and do the same protests riots and then civil wars you need to keep I calm or your and they’re tights are being broken ave yourself and by that save others and so I must say
1 likeNOT AN HATE COMMEN!! A warning bye 👋 waves from destroyed country.
@Georgian countryball yeah, there are unfortunately countries where you get a death sentence for associating with the LGBT+ community. For example, my sister wants to visit Indonesia really badly. But I don't, because being part of the LGBT+ community is not really accepted and actually punishable.
1 likeI'm bi and pretty sure I'm non binary. But if I decide to actually change my passport to fit my new gender identity, I'll get in trouble the moment people at the airport check it. My dad (who only knows I'm bi) told me to "just not appear bi" or something. But that misses the point entirely. I'd be stressing out a lot for fear of being caught. And there's no way I would enjoy myself that way.
It really sucks that still so many countries will punish you for not being cishet. I hope that will change soon.
Oh also, try to use commas and such. It makes it easier for other people to read
@Beep boop ok but I’m just warning everyone and thank you for your response and actually calm response your not like LGBTQ+ in my country
1 likeme too!
0 likesLove the new profile pic Sawtooth! Super proud of you! Happy Pride Month love!
2 likesA wonderful thing to open YouTube to.
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Yep
6 likesVery true :D
4 likesAgreed
4 likessees Sawtooth's new profile picture holy s*** that's the Non Binary flag!! That's awesome!! Good on you for coming out, Sawtooth!! Does anyone know what Sawtooth's specific pronouns are?
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thanks!!! and they them ^^
12 likes@Sawtooth Waves okay, thank you Sawtooth! Happy Pride!
4 likesIve literally been watching ur vids for YEARS, it brings me so much comfort knowing that we r both nonbinary
2 likesCongrats on coming out!!! ^u^
Actually Cadence was Twilight's foal-sitter before she got her cutie mark, so the sonic rainboom has nothing to do with Cadence and Shining's relationship
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This is where that part two will possibly come onto play which I'm hopeful for.
4 likesI like the Sawtooth and Nameless collabs they're really funny.
2 likesTHEY'RE BACK WITH ANOTHER VIDEO💖💖💖💖
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31 likes@Sawtooth Waves do you know how to yous this💜
0 likes@Isabelle Brush I know I don’t.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves ur videos are amazing
0 likesYou know theres probably a simple explanation . It's possible when princess Celestia had cadence as her student/ pupil she wanted to teach her all the values of being a princess even out side of the castle so she signed her up for foal sitting and put posters all over canterlot and twilight's parents seeing the offer excepted and with that Cadence met twilight and got more closer with Shining armor.
1 likePRIDE MOMENT !!! LOVE YOU SAWTOOTH WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY 😘❤🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
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Where did he say he was nb tho??
0 likes@Mazha Irfan Their profile picture included the non binary flag
0 likes@Mazha Irfan they*
0 likes@Charcoal oh
0 likeshappy pride month sawtooth! that’s so cool you’re non-binary. 🌈
4 likesI just love how so far i see so much people from the LGBTQ+ community in the comments, it’s so nice to see so many people coming out of the closet and become comfortable with openly saying it in the comments!
1 likeI myself is Genderfluid, was once NB myself. I hope to see more positivity from the community!
i also want to congratulate you Sawtooth! I’m so glad you’re comfortable openly telling us!
i’m a huge fan aswell! <3
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happy pride and thanks for the support!!! reading the comments has been (mostly) really wonderful <3
1 likeGreat theory! And a cute one x3 I like that explanation. c:
0 likesWhen you talked about Chrysalis at the beginning for a short moment, I remembered a scene with Chrysalis, that bothered me a long time. In the season finale, where Starlight changed the future, Chrysalis found Zecoras village. Can you find an answer why Chrysalis wanted to take Zecora to the mines of Canterlot, where she kept Cadance? I can't find an answer what Zecora could do for Chrysalis. Zecora can do kinda magic and knows a lot, but what does she know that could help Chrysalis? That question comes into my mind every now and then, but i can't put my hoof on it. Have you any ideas? You always come up with things I never imagined.
Love your theories and I already thought that Cadence and Shining met because of her babysitting Twilight, but you got a bit more in depth, and it just made me absolutely love this theory. Cant wait for part 2!
0 likesI love how the Nameless Dude reacts whenever Sawtooth says his name wrong(and yes, I said it wrong as well on purpose)
3 likesThanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^
0 likesYour collabs with the Nameless One are fun to watch. They open up a lot of possibilities as well with the ability to travel between universes. If you two ever decide to collab on more videos exploring the other timelines, I'll certainly be happy to give them a watch. ^_^
I noticed the profile pic change a couple days ago and then I was like “Sawtooth is non-binary?!?!” And I got incredibly happy, but then I was like, or “or maybe just showing solidarity? It’s an oddly specific flag to choose for showing solidarity” so I went to the about section of their channel and sure enough, “non-binary changeling (they/them)” it was so incredible seeing this person who’s been making theories since my childhood has something so wonderful in common with me! And then I was like “has this been known for a while and have I just been getting it wrong this whole time??” So I have just one question for you, Sawtooth, how long has that sentence been in the about section?
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just a few days! i just found out about this last year and came out last month. thanks for the support <3
5 likes@Sawtooth Waves lol it’s been about the same timeline for me, give it take a month or two
2 likesSimilar story here.
0 likesGuess the last few years have been revelation central then 😂
Great! Now we might talk about other timelines. Starlight really likes theories.
2 likesKinda a weird one, Sawtooth. I guess If we ignore the entire arc in the official comics that explicitly covers solely this, and we flip some events around so Twilight has her cutie mark in those scenes where Cadence is foal-sitting, then your fanfic kinda works.
4 likesOtherwise? Without her friends there to preform their different tasks at the wedding, Twilight just has less exposure to the strange activity that causes her to grow suspicious of Chrysalis. The confrontation doesn't happen, Twilight never helps Cadence escape the mines, and Chrysalis just outright wins. You don't even need to explain it that far, since Twilight's entire life would have been different in this timeline. It's possible she just doesn't have the confidence or personality to have that kind of confrontation with Chrysalis in the first place, perhaps she's even too focused on her own life to notice or care about Cadence's strange behavior at all.
THIS IS SO GOOD AGASDKLFMSKMFDSM!!! Top-tier theory and I always adore it when your OC gets into shenanigans. Can't wait for part two!
0 likesI love the theory, but there's one thing off. Twilight didnt yet have her cutie mark when she was being babysat by Cadence (as is seen in the flashback that Twilight has in the S2 finale). Since rainboom caused Twilight to get her mark, and in the flashback she didnt have one, Cadence must have been the foalsitter before the timeline was altered
3 likesI wonder if Celestia already knew before Twilight and Rainboom that she was meant to become the next ruler of Equestria? After all, time spells do exist in Equestria, and so do ponies who can sense the future (cough Pinkie cough)
This has always been my theory as well. Yeah, the other guy's thing about Twilight's cutie mark is a thing, but I think that is simply someone in the creative team not thinking the timeline through properly. For Twilight to be the right age to be in high school for EQG but the rest of the Mane Six being the correct ages for the various things we learn about them, Twilight has to be considerably younger and thus have gotten her cutie mark at a very young age.
0 likesWow, congrats on coming out!! That must take a lot of courage haha
1 likeThese theories manage to rock my world in less than 4 minutes.
1 likeHey Sawtooth, remember the video you made about the origin of the everfree forest? I think the mystery can be solved now with the pillars planting the tree of harmony and starswirl also saying that they kept the forest under control, meaning that the forest was always there even before the tree , can you please do a video about it
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definitely true! i don't have much else to say about the everfree forest besides that though. perhaps when i think of something ^^
0 likesHey Sawtooth! Big fan of your channel! I have a theory for you to consider. The Chrysalis timeline could still exist because Twilight never stopped Chrysalis from marrying Shining Armor and imprisoning Cadence forever. Ergo, the changelings would be able to feed off of that love forever.
0 likesSawtooth Waves: Alright let's see what people thought of my latest theory.
5 likesChecks and sees everyone pointing out the plot hole
Sawtooth Waves: WhAt HaVe I dOnE!?
I’ve always wondered this but here’s my possible theory. What if the rainboom never existed during their timeline because it had been prevented by someone who didn’t want the two to get married in the first place who hated the idea that Shining and Cadence were in love?
1 likeYou're NB!?!?!?! That's amazing! Im so happy you came out! I am in the LGBT community myself (ace lesbian, or you could call it bambi lesbian) and I LOVE seeing more love and more people in the community! You are a Pony (or more changling, lol) that I've admired for a long time! Congrats on coming out sawtooth!!!💛🤍💜🖤
8 likesI can’t wait for pt 2!! Your videos never fail to put a smile on my face
0 likesHey Sawtooth, This question has been keeping me up at night.....What if any other creature used the tiny fragment of the shell that turns seaponies into hippogriffs? Could the whole shell do something more powerful instead of a tiny piece? What if someone like tirek or Chrysalis got their hands on this? Would the mlp world be doomed? Or will it literally cause zero change? I need to know!!!
0 likesJust saw your new profile picture and it looks lovely and congrats on coming out and happy pride month sawtooth!!!
1 likeI see others have already brought up the cutie mark issue, so I'll just go straight to the other point that you probably can't assume that a Twilight who didn't meet her friends would still have facilitated the defeat of Chrysalis if presented with the same situation. The Twilight in that universe presumably doesn't know about the power of friendship, for one thing, so it's very plausible that she wouldn't bother freeing Cadance in the end due to not thinking it even matters. Beyond that, she failed her entrance exam, so she wouldn't have gone to the best school and learned from Celestia; she'd be less powerful and have a lower-quality education. That could hinder her enough that she doesn't find Cadance and get the two of them out of the mines before the invasion begins, and that might mean that she never even has a chance to bring Cadance and Shining Armor together.
0 likesI can’t believe that he’s still doing theroies! I’ve been watching this channel since 2016 and it’s one of my favorites of all time, I don’t know when but eventually this channel will no longer talk about mlp but until then keep on going with your theroies!
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I'm not sure if you know this, but sawtooth is nonbinary, and uses they/them pronouns, not he/him. Just letting you know!! And yes their content is my FAVORITE!!🥰🥰
1 like@May Huggins thx for letting me know
0 likesi support you :] and I really enjoy your content Sawtooth! I literally grew up with your videos and I’m glad you’re still doing what you love 🤍🧡🤍
3 likesYour videos really have alot of info and detail put in them. I really appreciate how much time you put in them. Can you make a video on how the ponies look like lgbtq+ flags. And why they are in mlp as pony characters. Twilight the colours looks like the bisexual flag, rainbow dash colours look like the gay flag, pinkie pie looks like pansexual flag, rarity non binary i think. Also some other ponies that have the colours in them. There are a ton of lgbtq+ flags.
0 likesAlso could you make a video on the actual story of the 6 girls thats based of mlp but in real life. I dont think it would actually be appropriate because the girls real life story is sad but its still good to know who the 6 girls from mlp are based off and how the real stpry goes. Alot of disney movies have real dark stories behind them for example cinderella. And also mlp has this aswell but the difference is how they change these movies and shows to make it entertaining for kids. But the actual real stories are disgusting. Its like the nursery rhymes they are so dark and have hidden meaning. Everything literally does.
Aw man, I thought you were going to tell us how Chrystal's plan in the Royal Wedding was actually well thought out (differing from main opinion about it), instead of discussing an alternative time-line.
0 likesI'm a little disappointed but of course I'll watch part two I think.
Well damn,as a fellow bi,congrats on coming out as both bi and enby. Also DAMN YOU HORSE THEORY PERSON FOR YOU HAVE LEFT US ON YET ANOTHER CLIFFHANGER
3 likesTwilight is one of the main reasons everything in MLP is the way it is
1 likeI do feel like it’s entirely possible that Cadence would’ve fullsat Twilight either way.
0 likesIt’s just a possibility, and honestly a very slim one
But we already know that it’s possible to become an ailacorn and not just be born one.
So it’s entirely possible she wasn’t always royalty, and was just casually babysitting some random kid.
While it probably isn’t true
Oh well
Okay so ignoring the video problem, (Cadence could had meet Twilight before the rainboom) we gotta talk about the real issue, how and why did Chrysalis did got on power? Made a take over on Celestia and Luna like season 7 I think? They made a full surprise attack? Did Shining Armor was still a royal guard? Candace made had meet him on Canterlot.
3 likesSo, much, possibilities.
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that's what the next video will address... >:3
2 likesFirst of all I'm so proud of you for pride month second of all don't you sometimes take some stuff out of the comics so why didn't you take the comic and to consideration this time the chemic literally has an entire story about how they met
1 likeMy theory on how Cadence and Shining Armor met:
1 likeCadence and shining met in a school project.
Cadence would always help shining armor and they both grew close.
They started hanging out more and when shining mentioned his sister, cadence decided to foalsit her.
Long after, they decided to marry each other and were so excited,
Until someone named chrysalis came around…
Then she destroyed the wedding and bla bla bla we know the rest!
I suggest everyone to read the comics, there's an arc about their meeting 💖
0 likesYour videos were my childhood, nice to see that you're still going strong :D
0 likesHappy pride month
I love the part where The Nameless One dragged the portal over Sawtooth.
0 likes"Bye, bye. Have fun."
Lol
Awesome video.😊
I just read the comment of Adam Wood studio and i think he's right for the most part. Although, I actually think that there's another reason for Shining and Cadence not meeting each other in the Chrysalis timeline: what if Twilight, after passing the exam and becoming Celestia's pupil, got Cadance not only as a ponysitter, but also as an afterschool teacher/tutor? That would have allowed Cadence not only to get to know Shining Armor, but also to spend even more time with him since, as a ponysitter, she would spend time with Twilight only when her parents and older brother weren't around
0 likesTHEY should be very proud!
2 likesI love these two so much together 🥰 and I love the video idea so a little pun here:
0 likesthis theory seems particularly✨shiny ✨
Ok I'll see myself out 🙂
Rainbow Dash is an icon she basically set them all up well for the future! The rainboom put everything into place!
0 likesI have a theory!
0 likesIt could be possible that she did go through with the plan of infiltrating the wedding but she also attempted to take over again by replacing the main six, the sisters, and Cadence.But guess who stopped her Starlight and who turned Starlight good? The main six. Which is how she succeeded. If it weren’t for the main six Starlight wouldn’t have stopped her.
Btw I said this in another video of yours.
I'm so glad to see that someone who I have followed for years is also non binary
0 likesIt made me feel so happy
Yay! Well done Sawtooth for coming out!
0 likesHoly crap! I haven’t watched you since I was a child, well, I still am technically a kid; but I was super young, I was invested in all of your content and it’s honestly a joy to see you again.
1 likeAnd I see you’re non-binary? Awesome! I’m absolutely going to be catching up and tuning in from now one, but seriously, thanks for basically raising 8 Y.O me. :)
I had figured Shining must've mostly met Cadance through foal-sitting Twilight
2 likesOne of us! One of us! Great theory and hooray for a fellow enby. 💛🤍💜🖤 I dont care if technically it doesn't work because Twilight seems to have known Cadence before getting her cutie mark, its still fun to theorize the what ifs!
0 likesI know you sort of debunked this in your latest video but I think twilight also still had Cadence as a foul sitter, it’s possible because shining armor possibly was a royal guard at the time. Because he was of such a high status he would be granted the ability to have Cadence as a foul sitter, I imagine it going a bit like this “Princess may I have a top tier sitter to look after my little sister Twilight? I really want her to be in good hooves!” Idk, then Princess Celestia would have possibly assigned Cadence because of her kind and loving nature. So it’s possible that the wedding still happened
1 likeNB sawtooth? It's more likely than you think!
5 likes(So glad you could come out to us!!! As a fellow nb it makes me super happy to see you feeling comfortable enough to make yourself visible 💞)
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How do you know tho? I watched the whole video and he didn’t mention it..
0 likesWhen does he say it
0 likesCongrats on coming out sawtooth! 🎉🎉🎉 Happy pride from this lesbian
2 likesI can’t wait to see part two. And I hope that I won’t be so late next time.
4 likesSo refreshing to see a new theory video
4 likessawtooths videos are my comfort
1 likethey just make my day
awesome to have another lgbtq+ friendo here, i’m glad you felt comfy enough to tell us :)
1 likeThere's still 2 problems with this theory. Twilight didn't have a cutie mark when Cadance was her foal sitter, but shining armor and Cadance also went to high school together, and there's a whole comic based around how they met and how they fell in love which does not involve Twilight.
0 likesThe new pfp makes me happy :00 love ur vids and happy pride month! <3
6 likesI love your theorys. I wish i could do things like this but people always do theorys on it before i even get it into writing.
0 likesGreat video, already makes my day
4 likesShinning and Cadenza's way of meeting each other could be a lot way more different from all of our fan theories...
0 likesOne problem is in the flash back twilight didn’t have her cutie mark but I have a different theory. I think that twilight would not see Cadence enough to realize her strange behavior. She might realize her brother’s but she also might just think that it is the stress of the wedding or protecting Canterlot. Once Chrysalis got enough love and gained she and her changling’s would take over but it would be to late.
1 likeI LOVE your vids, Sawtooth! I know a lot more things about mlp now than i did before i started watching your channel! I think your theory is plausible, but, like some people are saying, Twilight DIDN'T HAVE a cutie mark in her flashback of the times when cadence foal sitted her.
0 likesThis was really interesting
4 likesAlso happy Pride Month! I see you are non-binary
Did anyone notice, RD is the colors of the LGBTQ flag, Twi is bi, the spa ponies are trans, and the violin player is asexual?
you have NO idea how happy i was than when i came back to my favourite channel from 2016, they were non-binary <3 (i also identify as an enby)
1 likeThis theory should be for Twilight cause she was the one to ask in that episode
2 likesThis -
How did he even meet this Princess Mi Amore Cadenza?
In the ep. “To Where and Back Again” Starlight was the one who convinced the changlings reform and let everyone free. But erase the sonic rainboom and Twilight never became Celestia’s student, never made friends and became an alicorn Princess. If starlight never became Twilight’s student to learn friendship, she wouldn’t reform the changlings and let everyone free. And I think this is Chrysalis revenge because in that flash back with Twilight and Candence Twilight doesn’t have her Cutie Mark yet. And the canterlot wedding will be similar to the original timeline.
0 likesBelieve it or not I actually thought of the theory he was gonna before he said it. Before Sawtooth said it I actually expected Cadence and Shining Armor to be together because of Twilight's status even as a kid.
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make sure you check out the pinned comment
0 likesThis has nothing to do with the actual video, but like, bear with me
0 likesI have been watching you since I first managed to get on youtube. I was like ten or eleven. When I started, I though I was a cis girl. Over the past few months, I realized I was genderfluid. At this point, I have been watching your videos for like five years. At this point, I can officially say you are just as much a part of my childhood as this show itself is. And then, June 2021, you change your pfp to the enby flag . I check "about" your pronouns changed to they/them. It blew my fucking mind. You, this random person that I watch the theory videos of has also gone through the journey of self discovery I did, during relatively the same time frame. I just- Me too, friend, me too.
I watched this channel as a kid!♡
0 likesThe memories~
I would love a part 2 please
1 likeok, i have a BIG question. exactly how the crystal ponies are explained, they are earthen ponys but possess a magic attributable to that of the alicorn (for the love that spreads) the point and that I do not understand them, for example when they were discovered by the ponies of equestria and because the guards are sometimes crystal poses sometimes normal, if you make a video about it I bet you will clarify everything for me
0 likesIf there's a question the show hasn't answered or a character that hasn't been expanded upon, leave it to Hasbro to milk the IDW comics
0 likesAlso could you make a video on Scootaloo and Spike's background? They both overlooked by their family and sometimes the show will contradict itself(Father Knows Beast vs Sparkle 7 and Parental Glideance vs The last Crusade)
I never thought that the rainboom was connected to Cadence and Shining Armor meeting each other. But Twilight would have needed the rest of the mane 6 to get angry that no one believed her about Cadence, and then go to Shining Armor and saw Cadence doing to spell on Shining Armor and then accused Cadence of being evil. Then the rest of the episode wouldn't have happened and Queen Chrysalis would have won and would have taken over Equestria.
0 likeslove the theory, but if you go to the comics, you will see that shining armour and Cadence were also schoolmates, so it would just take longer
0 likesI always Love your Theories
15 likesThis is actually explained in the comics. Granted, it's not exactly when they met per se. But it is the moment when they actually became a couple. I don't think I need to say much, because, for the most part, my theory matches yours. (After checking, that doesn't work because they fell in love before Twilight got her cutie mark.)
0 likesI could also argue that Celestia would've been weakened after defending Equestria from Nightmare Moon (because Twilight wouldn't have had access to the Elements of Harmony to defeat her). This could also mean that Chrysalis could've taken advantage of the situation earlier than in canon. After all, what happened to Nightmare Moon in all of the alternate timelines that show Celestia NOT seeled away on the moon? We know of at least 2 timelines, and Nightmare Moon's timeline is apparently the only one where Nightmare Moon is successful. In the Sombra timeline and the Discord timeline, Celestia wasn't sealed away. And in the Discord timeline, Nightmare Moon is back to being Luna (though that could've been Discord's doing). So it's likely reasonable that in a few timelines at least, Celestia was able to win against Nightmare Moon. So why not assume Chrysalis's timeline isn't one of them?
As always! You're videos are amazing
0 likesI can’t wait for the next part I’m so excited!
0 likesMaybe a fix to the whole 'Twilight doesn't have her cutie mark when Cadence started foalsitting' would be that, maybe, Celestia knew Twlight's potential before her cutie mark, and tasked the new young princess with foalsitting her, to give Cadence mare to foal experiences that she'd need as a princess, and to expose the young Twilight to powerful magic while she's still young.
0 likesAlso, completely unrelated, but I think that you coming out as nb indirectly related to me finding out I'm agender and not a trans guy, so thanks for that~!
I am the only non binary person in my grade so to see one of my favorite youtubers being a fellow enby is empowering
1 likeI complete agree with this theory but I have something to add. When starlight prevented the rainboom that connected the mane six equestria would be ruled by someone else before chrysalis, nightmare moon. Without the mane 6 nightmare moon would’ve ruled. And some might say “6 other ponies would form a new mane 6” but twilight is the only one that would’ve and could form the element of magic.
0 likesHello!
0 likesI have a suggestion for a video!
What is the difference between Discord magic, that was taken from him directly by Tirek in "Twilight's Kingdom" and Discord magic, that was sealed in Grogar's Bell? In the second case no one could take his magic from the bell.
I hope my video suggestion will be noticed!
You know, the Sawtooth from the other time-line was right, when Cadence was Twilight's foalsitter, Twilight was a blank-flank.
0 likesHere's my theory:
0 likessince people comment that cadence knew twilight before her cutie mark, I believe her and shining were good friends during school OR that cadence's family were friends with twilights. Or just cadence being a baby sitter, meeting her brother, and so on.
For once, I have to disagree for now. My biggest issue with your theory is that Twilight didn't have her cutiemark during the flashback of her time being babysat by Cadance. You even showed a screencap of that flashback and she didn't have her cm. This puts that flashback to before the sonic rainboom.
0 likesCongratulations on being nb, sorry if I'm late! But keep up the good work! <3
2 likesI love their love story 😁❤️
0 likesi'm debating whether or not i'm non binary or not as a really feminine male and you encouraged me to look into it more, thank you !
0 likesI love it!❤
0 likesIt's adorable how you have a little flower
1 likeSmall details are the best
There is another clue that links Cadance and Shining Armor's meeting to be related to the Sonic Rainboom. Cadance specifically requested one at her wedding, and while that could just be for fanciness, I found it interesting because Cadance would have never likely cared about it...unless she saw it and it was important to hers and Shining's relationship.
0 likesWhile I like this theory I think it's wrong, Twilight was the one who saved Cadence from the mines, putting Cadence in a position to reach Shining armor.
0 likesYES OMG THE PFP !!!! Happy pride 🌈
4 likesWhoa! When you think about it, this one holds true! Why else would she succeed in an alternate timeline?
0 likesCongrats on coming out as nonbianary! <3 And great video as always
0 likesBut... issues 11 and 12 of the comics already explain how Cadance and Shining met... that was years ago.
0 likesCan't we just accept that sometimes the show writers didn't think things through when writing stories?
Awesome video!
17 likesit took me a moment to cop the profile and i came to the comments to see i wasn’t mistaken, that’s so cool you can share that with us especially in this pride month, great video as always as well :)
1 likehappy pride month sawtooth and random comment readers
Great video as always, happy pride month y'all 🌸🏳️🌈
1 likeDear Sawtooth, I am here to fix your debunked theory. I think your theory is correct! If we change it up a bit😉 the problem was that Twilight didn't have her cutie mark when cadence baby sitted her but what if it were that twilight knew candence from the start. Here me out, after seeing the sun celebration twilight got more into magic and mainly into celestia's magic. She wanted to learn more about her cause she was influenced by her, so she learned that Celestia had taken Cadence under her wing. Knowing that she begged her parents to ask the princess to allow cadence to baby sit her. Celestia ofc said yes, knowing that someone studied so much to even know about cadence, since the news didn't go viral.this also explains how she was enrolled in celestias school and how celestia new before the rainboom that twilight was special,Therefore cadence met shining and fell in love blah blah blah. I hope this fixed it.😰
1 likeWhat would you say about alternate theory connected to love-poison?
1 likeWhat if I would say that princess in the book was nopony else but Chrysalis herself. After she was afected by the potion for to long so the spell was impossible to reverse (like happened to Big Mac and Cherile) someone tried to seperate them anyway. Who knows, mabe even Celestia herself had to interfere (that would explain why they looked like if they had known each other for so long and so on...).
Magicaly induced thirst for love that Chrysalis lacked after losing connection to her prince could theoreticaly cause her to need that love for sustain more than food (aslo it explains how both her and prince lived despite ignoring everything around, including food, to look into each other's eyes).
Hope you will like this theory :3
There is literally a comic for this. Why is everyone disregarding that?
6 likesWas wondering if you were ever going to talk about the Male alicorn that appears in s8 ep5 at around 6 minutes in. Was watching it when I noticed something odd and so I rewound it just to make sure I saw it correctly and there is a male alicorn there. I know it's probably an animation error but I thought it was funny and worth a share.
0 likesProud of you for coming out!
0 likesI think that once twilight didn’t get into the magic school due to no sonic rain boom, that cadence had to foul sit more or had to leave due to royal duties. I would think she would be with twilight so much she felt part of the family that she wouldn’t have time to think of twilights brother in that way, like a missed chance rather than a whole relationship that they built in the main timeline, twilight had no clue about it that they probably dated when she wasn’t around ( when she was in school or studying which she did a lot/taking care of a baby dragon) so cadence probably focused more on twilight than she had time to even consider shining armor as an option in romance, especially since twilight was most like depressed from failing the test.
0 likesIf shining armor and cadence started dated while canence was still foal sitting for twilight then twilight would have been aware of their relationship. We can see in part 1 of the Canterlot wedding that twilight was unaware. I dont think its likely that they would keep it a secret or if they did they certainly wouldn't into adulthood.
0 likesThis theory is great but since Twilight didn’t have her cutie mark while Cadence foal sat her I have an idea about how she is. Shining and Cadence seem pretty much the same age so basing off of that, what if Shining was training to become apart of the royal guard at that age? Perhaps similarly to Twilight, he showed great potential and the current head of the royal guard took him in. Maybe during this time Shining ran into Cadence a few times. As they were most likely just kids/becoming teens they wouldn’t treat each other formally resulting in them becoming friends. Cadence could’ve then volunteered to be Twilights babysitter at one point and then from there it’s pretty much history :)
1 likeI think its simple. Instead of taking the place of Vadence. She simple replaced one of these three, Shinning Armor. Celestia or Luna. If shining then she can slowly replace every royal gaurd member then takeover. If Luna, she starts recreating the Circumstances that made Luna be nightmare moon. Celestia having lost the ability you use the elements gives up to what she thought was her sister but in reality was Chrysalis. Finaly Celestia herself. So this gonna be a longer one so here we go. Yet the key to defeating Celeste is finding someone that she loves and respects with all of her heart so sunset shimmer. As we know she never hated sunset for her betrayal so this is how she but replaces Celestia. I don't know how she would've learned about sunset probably in the Royal archives or the canterlot archives or maybe from celestious personal study I don't know how you'd get into either of these places but whatever that part doesn't exactly matter. So she waits for the next time the portal to the human world opens and then places some guards there to make sure the real sunset shimmer does not come through the portal which she won't because she doesn't know about the elements of harmony being there because they're not. She goes up to Celestia pretending to be sunset and pretending to be super remorseful this of course makes Celestia very happy her love is overflowing but this is when she lacks her plan to capture Celestia. She says that there's a threat from the other world that's going to be coming here and that we need the elements of harmony to stop them celestial support worried because she can't use the elements but maybe just maybe the 5 that she found in ponyville plus sunset might be able to do it so she goes along with sunset there with no guards because she thinks the real sunsets with her. Of course that was a mistake because now they're alone she knocks out Celestia has some of her gut yards take her back to the hive to be CO cooned up and she takes over and celestia's place doing again what I said with shining armour replacing the guard slowly with change lings until there's literally no one left that can stop them. Those are the 3 possible outcomes I think what happened I mean yeah 21 of them's longer than the other 2 but that's still very possible all these are very possible who knows we won't into that video happens.
0 likesTo the people that are misgendering them, it's not that hard to call someone by their preferred pronouns. Most of yall are probably very young tho.
2 likesI really love your theorys!!
1 likeI had no idea you were nb, and I'm glad you're comfortable enough to tell us! Interesting video as always!
0 likesEvery time the timelines are mentioned I feel a shiver go down my neck like somehow its real tho Ik it’s not
0 likesI have a headcanon. It is that Twilight took the magic of Equestria when she accidently cast a powerful spell after singing about her friends not being alive anymore! Yeah it's sad!
8 likesHere's my theory. So if the headcanon is not true, then maybe Twilight have the mind of here friends inside of her own!!!
I actually thought the exact same thing! Shame that they don't think that far while making the show, and represent Twilight without a Cutie Mark when she was babysitted by Cadance... It hardly makes sense that royalty, an alicorn that was already Celestia's protege, babysitted a random unicorn. To make money? It's absurd on so many levels.
0 likesSo we can only theorize. Maybe Celestia knew that Twilight was going to be special BEFORE her test, and sent Cadance watching over her, preparing her. Twilight was given a dragon egg to hatch on her first exam. At this age, it is shown with Sweetie Belle that unicorn struggle turning book pages, or lifting a broom. And no other unicorn attempting the Gifted unicorn school (Minuette, Moon Dancer...) though being the same age, is shown taking care of a baby dragon. So this could explain why Cadance was Twilight foalsitter.
Now, maybe by failing the exam, Twilight could have gone depressed, and retire herself from magic altogether. We never see an alternate universe Twilight. Sure she must have been in Canterlot, but maybe it was because she didn't do magic at all. We've seen characters going crazy over not being powerful enough (Tempest with her broken horn, Starlight not attempting the gifted unicorn school after Starbust got his cutie mark first, Sunset, when she didn't get what she desired as quickly as she wanted, turning cruel and dishonest, eventually abandoning her studies to pursue her own path...) So Twilight could have followed the same pattern? Or maybe became more like Moon Danser, burying herself in studies, to prove she was worth something...
This theory could have impacted the way Twilight acted in her brother's wedding if there was one. Maybe she was too nervous, closed on herself to burst accusations in front of Celestia, which will result in Chrysalis sending her where the real Cadance was. Or maybe she was still close enough to Shining Armor that Chrysalis has to take her into account by tricking her too, or casting a spell on her, providing her again to find the real Cadance.
For more clue we could analyze what Starlight precisely changes in the chrysalis timeline. She stop the bullying and makes fluttershy and her bullies practice together. She also pushed her equality ideology on them. Twilight tried to convince Rainbow Dash that she could do the Sonic Rainboom, end Rainbow Dash noticed she was an alicorn. The first part is more probable to have change something. All the mane six (exept for Twilight that we don't see) have the same cutie mark. Their destiny wasn't changed, just delayed. We can guess the same thing happened to Twilight so she wasn't Celestia's protege, but she still had a role to play with magic. With all that, we can assume the wedding still happened? And in other vers she was able to do something to stop Chrysalis, since we saw a Sombra and Tirek vers... I don't know, this is all I can gather, and I'm sure i've forgotten important things :/
I LOVE THE VIDEO AND THE PROFILE!! Happy pride month <3 🌈💗✨
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Happy pride month to u too
1 likeOut if all the MLP channels I subbed to back in High School you are the only one still making MLP content and I commend you for it.
0 likes"Cadance and Shining Armor never became a couple."
1 likeMe: Oh, I get it, because Cadance only started babysitting Twilight after the young Twilight became Celestia's student and because of this she met Shining Armor. But in a world where the rainboom never happened, Twilight wouldn't become Celestia's student, Cadance wouldn't have to babysit her and because of that she wouln't met her love. Did I get it right?
Edit: Yes
I was watching it when I was a kid. I’m 16 and I still watch it. I never regret
0 likesWait I looked it up. Sawtooth’s non-binary? That’s awesome! Non-binary rights! That’s cool how it’s the background of your profile picture on your channel. We love and accept you for who you are 💛🤍💜🖤
1 likeI know I'm late but I think this theory might work with the S2 E25. If there was no mane 6 twilight will be helping planning therefor not noticing the diferences.
1 likeCan u make a video on this too?
3 likesThe twilight in the human world has wings when she ponys up but when she went through the portal to equestria she was a unicorn with no wings
Happy pride month Sawtooth! Us Nonbinary ppl oughta stick together!
0 likesYayyyy happy pride month and I fully support you :)
2 likesPerhaps you can do a theory on how the changelings came to be and all of the other hives besides the main one we see
0 likesi never knew you were nonbinary !!!! i feel so happy knowing another one of my favourite YouTubers is nonbinary :) what are your preferred pronouns? i dont wanna refer to you wrong !!!!
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@Mars oh thank you so much !! i probably should've checked there first haha
0 likesCongratulations for putting the NB flag on your pfp. It shows you're proud to be yourself. Nice job dude.
1 likeI’ve really been wondering, “who are tempusis parents?” and I think her dad is king sambra
0 likesSawtooth should be fine... They're a changeling, after all, so they could just try to blend in as one of Chrysalis's minions
0 likesPRIDE🏳️🌈 WE LOVE YOU SAWTOOTH AND WE SUPPORT YOU
0 likesWell this was definitely a different theory than what I was expecting from the Thumbnail and video name, but it definitely interesting to think about, oh, and some advice for Sawtooth, you might wanna change yourself into an unreformed changeling just so you don't stick out as a target
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They made a video about un reformed changelings once about them and someone else and why they don't want to be reformed or something
0 likes@Hepoxni He's going into a different timeline dude
0 likes@Flare Brush oh yeah I forgot also Sawtooth goes by they/them
0 likesNice new profile pic Sawtooth! As a non-binary person, we're here for you my enby. Happy Pride Month!
2 likesNon-binary pride 💛🤍💜🖤
Omg I was so confused by all the non binary comments. Took me a hot second but then I actually used my eyeballs and saw Sawtooth’s pfp 😂
9 likesAmazing!, I didn't know this gives them a grip without the mane 6s help.....
0 likesThat day with the rain boom seriously was one of the most important days to Equestrias past
3 likesmaybe if Twilight's friends hadn't encouraged her to go to the wedding she would've been too mad at Shining Armor to go and thus Crysalis would've succeeded because it was originally twilight who figured out what was off about Cadance.
0 likesWhen I heard how Sawtooth thought Cadence and Shining armor met I imagined Rainbow Dash saying
0 likes“So basically I saved Eaquestria”😂
I think your theory is right, but the it couldn’t have happened without the main six because they need the gang to defeat the changlings out front to get twilight to the throne room to save cadence to save shining armor to save equestria.
0 likesA part TWO?! O. M. G! Everybody stay calm!
2 likesI JUST SAW THE PFP, BROOO, yall are valid, this is amazing. Wasn't expecting that tbh O_o
8 likesI can’t wait to see part 2
0 likesI personally think that Chrysalis simply impersonated Cadence like the original plan. After doing that, Chrysalis ruled the Crystal Empire and basically used the love and light from the city to feed the changelings, making them grow even more powerful. It would be easy since all Chrysalis needs to do is to have a group change into crystal ponies and switch out every moon or so, taking turns to drain the love and grow more powerful till they got enough power for the army of changelings to attack Canterlot and take over from there
0 likesThis is a simple thing I thought of, feel free to take ideas qwq
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Well, except Cadence only ruled the Crystal Empire because of the Mane Six.
0 likesOr it was literally all the things before that? Like Nightmare Moon and Discord. How can you have a wedding if your aunt managed to fail to save her sister? Under a new crazy dictator who is extremely jealous and violent how would there be another alicorn around who's also loved/is a pony of love? Also if Celestia did managed to tame/beat Nightmare Moon, that leaves Discord who is shown to warp folks minds and such.
0 likesLet's not forget time warping can actually even change the order of events too so... ye.
(I know this is late. Saw the videos in reversed order.)
Awesome video Sawtooth! Happy pride month!!
0 likesHello if you see this Sawtooth i was hoping someday you could do a video on the ponies' sizes. like how twilight became really tall as ruler while the other 5 didn't?
0 likesWell the encounter between Shining and Cadence was explained in the comic "Neigh Anything" but your theory is way more interesting and less cliché
0 likesI love your new profile picture!!! HAPPY PRIDE MONTH EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
2 likesSawtooth Waves. Watch the Last Problemm episode again. Pause right when you are in the hallway. There is a stained gleass at the very end of the screen. In it we see a tail. A bushy, curly, pink and purple tail. Sweetie Belle's tail. That's right. The CMC do something significant in thetime between thelast 2 episodes. Could you make a video on that
1 likeI think that the plan could have work the same way but Chrysalis would have known about Twilight and Cadence's relationship considering the fact that Twilight most likely never would have left Canterlot if she wasn't told to leave by Celestia. Mainly because Twilight was being full sets before she got her cutie mark.
0 likes1 I was full on board with their theory and thought the exact same thing until I saw the pinned comment... and 2 I love the enby flag in your profile picture!
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1 like@Hepoxni thank you very much I didn't realize I used that until you pointed it out, thank you!
2 likesI think shining armor and cadence met before twilight got her cutie mark by cadence being twilight's foalsitter
3 likesThis guy is honestly the smartest pony I’ve ever seen
0 likesI miss this show so much :((
0 likesfirstly, love your new pfp for pride month
2 likessecondly, in the comics, (#12 i think) they cover how shining and cadence met, they
met through high school and cadence became twilight's foal sitter from there
I really don't understand why someone would waste their time on made-up theories and what-if scenarios based on a children's cartoon when they should prepare themselves for the trials and tribulations that come with being none-binary.
0 likesDespite the more positive attitudes towards the LGBTQ+ community, there will always be people who have no qualms with using violence and shaming to express their hatred towards said community. I'd spend less time on projects in a dying shell of a fandom, and focus more on surviving the fallout that comes with being none-binary.
I've made my disdain towards the Brony community clear, but let be said that I support the LGBTQ+ community. Love is pure and boundless, but it must endure the storm before it sees the rainbow.
I take it this is another point where the comics contradict the show canon? After all, in the comics, Shining and Cadence met in high school, which was around the time she began to foalsit Twilight. At the same time, though, without Twilight's high honor garnered from the Rainboom, would Cadence have taken any interest in foalsitting Twilight?
0 likesin the comics cadence and shining armor met in school, the reason she became twilight's foalsitter is because she wanted to get closer to shining armor
0 likesIt was confirmed in the comics that yes, Cadence met Shining through Twilight because she was the foal sitter. So gj!
0 likesHere's a video idea!
0 likes'Could the Cutie Mark Crusaders possibly turn into alicorns?'
It is a pretty good theory. Scootaloo the pegasus, Sweetie Belle the unicorn, and Apple Bloom the earth pony! Think about it.
"Twilight's always been close to Shining"
0 likesTwilight: never mentions Shining Armor in season 1
I love your thoughts about your theory of Candace how ever I'm still confusing 🤔 I want you make a video that time travel to the past to what happen I CAN'T WAIT 😊
0 likesRandom thought.
0 likesWhy does Shining Armor's uniform have a saddle? Even as a decorative flourish, it implies knowledge of horses as transportation for other animals. It wouldn't have been invented purely as an ornament.
Is this a memory from before Equestria? Were the worlds of Equestria and EG originally one world, dominated by humans, before a magical accident stripped magic from EG while transforming the people to ponies in the world that split off from the original?
Enquiring minds want to know!
That ending was amazing! 😂😎🤩😋
0 likesI can sit here all day and listen to his theories
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0 likes@Hepoxni ok thanks
0 likesIf starlight did stop the rain boom, she may have impersonated twilight. Because chrysalis would of sensed the anger in twi, they joined forces, then chrysalis would of sensed the power in twi, then helped her to get the power out and twi used it to get her revenge and chrysalis would be in twilights position and right when everyone is cornered, one of them is also the villain. Twilight would of used her power to take away personalities from other ponies as her own so others don’t judge her. This is also a sequel to when starlight tried to stop the rain-boom. Twilight saw this world with spike and it was the first they saw. The changelings took over equestria, then twilight sucked up all the ponies personalities but they still had the talents so their cutie marks were fine. This actually sounds accurate too.
0 likesMe: sees the title
14 likesAlso me: So is no one gonna talk about the comics??? It shows on how they both meet
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Finally someone brought it up! They went to the same school and Shining had a crush on Cadence there. I feel like that puts this theory of them never meeting into question.
2 likesIkr
0 likesDoes anyone else wonder why cadence was the only other alicorn ruling alongside Celestia until twilight freed Luna? Celestia must have been very lonely all that time, seeing all her friends grow old and die without her. And to think, of all the time there was NOT another alicorn/prodigy?
0 likesI think that Princess Celestia was too afraid to have another alicorn around, in case they would go sour like Luna did. Because if her own sister could turn against her, then why wouldn't anyone else?
BUT Nightmare Moon's banishment was coming to an end. And Celestia would have needed some help. Hence why she may have opened the school, to find someone who was strong enough to help her fight Nightmare Moon again. And in that time she found Cadence. And although Cadence isn't necessarily strong with magic, her ability to quell arguments with love gave Celestia hope, that she might be the key to bring Luna back. Hence imortalizing her as an alicorn so that she has a better footing against Nightmare Moon.
Although she had found her pony to help bring down Nightmare Moon, she kept the school open anyways, seeing how great it was for everyone, and well.. just in case.
And then Twilight showed up, baring the cutie mark of the Tree of Harmony. She would have known instantly that it would have been Twilight's job to bring harmony to Equestria. And seeing how Twilight needed a lesson in love and friendship, she was sent to Ponyville to throw her out of her normal and make new friends. (To also better value Nightmare Moon's life, and to also understand her at a better level.. of being alone.) Also note that Ponyville is right next to the Tree of Harmony and the old castle. Celestia literally set up Twilight to have the best fighting chance against Nightmare Moon. (Although Twilight was sent there a little too late for my comfort.)
It also always bothered me just how calm Celestia seemed about the entire thing. But realizing that Cadence could have handled Nightmare Moon with her Love magic, made me realize that Celestia had more than one plan at her ready. And it just so happens that plan A succeeded
Ooo, another great video by Sawtooth! His videos are the best!
1 likehey, a few days late but I think I have something that could possible poke some holes in your theory, although it's from the comics so I don't know exactly how canon it is.
0 likesEither way, in the comic "Neigh Anything", we get the backstory of how Shining and Cadence got together, and we see that Shining had a crush on Cadence LONG before she started babysitting Twilight, and how they got together hardly had anything to do with Twilight.
Then again, this is all from the comics and should be taken with a grain of salt, but I think it's an important detail nonetheless
What If this is about Starlight defeating Chrysalis the second time? The mane 6 never meat, so Starlight was never reformed and never defeated Chrysalis.
0 likesAlthough that would not make sense because Starlight also would have never gone back in time to stop the rainboom.
But when you think about it, then the whole episode doesn't make sense.
Heyy!! So, I just had a question that popped up in my mind.
0 likesIf the Sunset Shimmer we know in the human world was thrown through the portal there, then why have we never seen the original human Sunset Shimmer?
We love a non bianary icon 💛💛
2 likesI wonder why in the one episode when starlight traveled back in time twilight still had wings when starlight sent her back to a different future she still had wings because she only became a princess when she had her friends It's like it's meant to be
0 likesAlso can you make a theory about how celestia could raise the moon with her sun magic. And also how Luna was freed even though celestia said she would be in the moon “permanently” but the prophecy said they would that the stars would aid in her escape.
0 likesThis is very good theory I must admit! But in the flashback with Cadence we see that twilight is a blank flank so IDK HOw this theory would play out
0 likesI think you were right about there not being a wedding. Just the Way you got there is wrong. As mentioned by other comments, Twilight knew Cadence before becoming Celestia’s student, as shown by the lack of a cutie mark in the Flashback in Canterlot Wedding Part 1.
0 likesThe reason they never married, is because of Nightmare Moon, she never would’ve allowed this, because that would’ve taken appreciation away from her, the sole reason she tried to kill Celestia.
The Nightmare Moon and Chrysalis timelines are probably separated by a War of some kind, in which given the Timeline, either side won said war. That doesn’t entirely explain the day and night cycle being back in the Chrysalis timeline, but I would assume Celestia would still be around in some way, and would’ve started moving the Sun and Moon again, even after Nightmare Moon had fallen.
Your Opinion’s? For anyone who comes back to old Episodes?
Wait this can not be true. In the flash back when twilight was remembering Cadance as her folsiter she did not have her CUTIE MARK!
3 likesYou should make a video about what would happen if they all ran out of names. Like would they make up new words and weird combinations of names or reuse old names?
0 likesI thought this would be about the MLP comic about them being in highschool / college together (although that might be an alternative history with some comics being 'cannon' vs not)
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video about Tempest shadow, and how was she able to control her magic!
0 likesrandom thought. when starlight prevented the rainboom and twilight went to the differnet timelines she saw some of her friends in those timelines. why did her friends have the same cutie marks if the rainboom was prevented?
0 likesAs a 10 year old this makes me feel comfortable watching mha
0 likesLove the new profile pic and good theory!!
2 likesIf you read the comics that hasbro made it actually has the story of how Cadence and shining met. Apparently they went to highschool together? It’s a weird story but interesting.
0 likesHe should be fine if he uses his powers to blend in with the old changelings
0 likesWhat about the comics?? Shining and Cadence met in "high school" and ended up dating, that's their origin. They've even done a themed event about it in the official MLP game.
0 likesCan't wait for part 2
0 likesEvery time they says Syannax it makes me laugh. The sigh 😂
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1 like@Hepoxni thank you for telling me!
0 likesBeen watching your vids for a few years. Happy that you are a fellow enby. Welcome to the club💛🤍💜🖤
0 likesi've been waiting for this one ! :)
2 likesI just found out that you're non-binary and that's so cool!!! Glad to know another non-binary person!! :3! Also I'm excited for the next ep of this hehe!!
1 likeWhat twilight said " not only your ruining our friendship your ruining every pony else " something similar to what she said that so without the rainboom they cant get together. There love and frienship is still on the timeline without them history is different
0 likesDidn't twilights friends convinced twilight to go to the wedding tho? And in the bad timeline, chrysalis probably would of done the same plan but wouldn't have twilight in her way. So all this time cadence would of been stuck in a prison forever because twilight was the one that found cadence and helped cadence escaped by that light they found.
0 likesI didn’t know that you were non-binary? Happy Pride month for you, pal! 😉🏳️🌈
0 likesI'm sure they would fall in love again in alter world
0 likesHey Sawtooth, I don't know if you have done this before but you should make a video on your human world self. Since we know what you look like as a pony and as a changling but we don't know what you look like as a human if you crossed through the portal... Don't mind my spellings...
2 likesWooo congrats on being nonbinary! I’m gender fluid so i get the feeling :]
1 likeDidn't shining armor and cadence go to the same school and that's how they started dating? I remember the idw comics having a two part arc on that
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Well the comics are not completely canon for the series 😅, and if they were canon maybe there would be another way they never got together or maybe it could be that they broke up or something 🤔
5 likes@✿GJG STUDIOS✿ yeah I'm not sure which comics are cannon and which are set in a alternate universe equestria. I know that in season 10 discord reference something from a earlier comic
4 likes@Renamon 565 Yes but discord is discord If you know what I mean😅, but it is unknown if the Shining and Cadence comic is canon (I think it's almost canon in some parts) I only know that the comic of season 10 is technically canon
2 likesComics ain't canon
1 like@Ayati :The Rock star i thought that they were now
1 like@Renamon 565 yup. The comics are full 100% canon.
1 like@Ayati :The Rock star Incorrect. The comics have always been canon, except for maybe like, 2 arcs like Reflections and Siege of the Crystal Empire which have been retconned by the show - but even so, fans have come up with excellent theories to reconcile both versions. So in a way, these retconned comics are canon too if you choose to believe so.
1 like@Daydream Sparkle well i think i think the sombra and radiant hope arc aren't canon seeing how we never see or mention reform king sombra ever again in the comics. I'm not sure if the nightmare rarity arc is cannon either nut we did see a cameo of her in the cosmos arc
0 likes@SCORPIO Yep, also the mayor and Mrs. Charalie(sorry I don't know how to write it well) were in the comic
1 like@SCORPIO yep there also appeared in that comic
1 like@Renamon 565 king sombra did get reformed in the comics. Thanks to Hope
1 like@Jokerlyzer Media yeah but not in the show. Also sombra and hope went to bring back princess amore by trying to find all her statue pieces but i think that plot is forgotten seeing how that comic was like 50+ issues ago
1 like@Renamon 565 still canon that he reformed
1 like@Daydream Sparkle in the legend of magic annual special you can see lots of mirrors made by starswirll that leads to alternate equestrias. I believe the mirrors lead to all the of comics that aren't cannon
1 like@SCORPIO and in the episode where spike pet sits the mane 6 pets
1 like@Jokerlyzer Media we are in season 10 episode 10 and so far reformed sombra and hope have not appeared or was mentioned or brought back cadence's mom
1 like@Renamon 565 fans have headcanoned that the non-canon issues are events that got wiped from the timeline as a result of Starlight's time travels.
1 like@Renamon 565 still canon. Maybe it was meant to send them away, not show more of them.
1 like@Jokerlyzer Media i hope cadence gets to reunite with her mom... I also wish we could more comics about her
0 likes@Renamon 565 same.
0 likesHI!! I'm A New Subscriber! the video is amazing! and maybe Cadence And Shining met and had a chat and after a few days they told twilight that and chrisalis heard and she chose to take over.
0 likesHey sawtooth this is what I'm thinking,what if cryslis changed to one of the mane 6?I saw the pinned comment so they would meet (shining and cadence) .but if shining and cadence try to get married.so chrysalis was twi?she made the two not get married.then she revealed herself but.. shining and cadence stopped the wedding already so chrysalis won,but here's what helps what about zecora maybe cryslis invaded ponyville too? Then there's where it ends.if you support this comment then thx!
1 likeI never realised how important the rainbow meant!
0 likesHalf the comments: *Sawtooth’s profile picture*
2 likesWhich may I add, is amazing
The other half: *The video*
Me: *This comment*
Can wait make a part 2 to this story of the timeline
0 likesI want to be Sawtooth Waves's friend 😭
1 likeHell yeah can’t wait for the next one
0 likescongrats for your coming out and i love your vids since i'm a kid keep going :)))
0 likesI'm so happy for you! I'm NB Aswell! <3
1 likeI don’t think when Starlight changed the past and stopped the Sonic Rainboom I don’t think it affected Cadence and Shining Armor’s love for each other because if you look closely at Twilight and Cadence’s memories Twilight didn’t have her cutie mark so Shining and Cadence already knew each other
0 likesI love your profile pic happy pride month Sawtooth
4 likesI love these timeline videos thx so much
0 likesMaybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into pony's futures
0 likesHeyyy nb pals! It's awesome to see one of my favorite pony content creators shares an identity with me!
2 likesI love your videos!
1 likeNot related to the video but I love your pfp! Happy Pride Month!
2 likesOkay but are we not gonna talk about how the fact Rainbowdash deserves a thank you
0 likesHey could you make a theory on why some ponys have flowing manes. It seems to be powerful unicorns/alicorns. But then why doesn't starswirl or starlight not have wavy hair? A list of wavy haired characters are.
0 likesCelestia
Luna
Mistmane
Older Twilight
Sombra
Nightmare moon
Cadence in the S2 finale climax/resolution.
Twilight in the S4 finale when she gets the magic at the beginning and when she raised the sun.
There might be more but I don't know.
I luv your vids Sawtooth waves. And i realize your a changeling, that means you can be anybody/anything. And anyways your cool and awsome. I agreed
3 likesI think the comic might be cannon but I believe shining armor and Cadence went to the same school which was why they met. I still don't know though why Cadence then became twilights foal sitter. Other than celestia wanted her to get a job or something.
0 likesBut maybe the reason why twilight wouldn't have noticed is because she needed more to go off of and without her friends less mistakes would have been made as other ponies would have made the dresses, cakes and other stuff. So maybe Twilight would have realised too late and then Chrysalis could have succeeded.
I CANT WAIT FOR PART 2
0 likesBro my name is Kaydence and is pronounced the same way as Cadence and She's my favorite pony but every time I hear her name it messes with me lol😂
2 likesThe Butterfly Effect.
0 likesthat's what Ink Rose said.
speaking of butterflies, Fluttershy seems to have some power over some of the mane six having been the only one who Discord forcefully had to corrupt
unlike the others, who were corrupted on their own.
Chrysalis looks lowkey attractive with pink hair tho-
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she’s a cartoon 🙁🙁
3 likes@jess and your point is?
5 likesWe want part 2
0 likesHappy pride month!
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Happy pride month to u too
1 likeok but why am i just now learning that sawtooth is non binary
2 likesI enjoy your videos but your theory falls apart considering in flashbacks we see Cadence babysitting Twilight before she got her cutiemark.
0 likesThat was all very interesting, but Twilight didn't have her cutie mark when she met Princess Cadence. This fact puts your theory under question. Go and check out in the episodes)
0 likesacutually, the mane 6 did make a difference..... they were queen chrilis's (cadence) new bridesmaids and her old bridesmaids were made to stop the real cadence and twilight
0 likesBRUH YOU'RE NON BINARY?!??
4 likesME TOO!!!
HAPPY PRIDE MONTH
oh god he unlocked the cliffhanger perk
1 likeI'm actually on time for this!
2 likesSawtooth, I have a question have you / will you join the Secret Rift bar ?
2 likesHappy Pride Month🏳️🌈
1 likeI knew your were going to make a video today! I was waiting the whole day!
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well I've been making it for two weeks but i just uploaded it ^^
3 likesOh nice 👌 just so you know I am the same person but I watch you vids on my parents devices.
2 likesWhat a connection
1 likeLove video ❤️
2 likesLoving the new profile pic ☺️
1 likeWait your non binary? Oh... ok, cool. Congratulations!
2 likesOh the rain boom theory is so true- why didn’t I thought of it!
7 likesThis came to my head but What if chrysalis took twilight and used her to lure in Cadence and Shining armor then capturing them and darning all threes magic this made Celestia worried and sent Royal guards to rescue them but they failed but she kept sending more after she saw they weren't able to rescue them she went and faced her but as unsuccessful too and her magic was drained and this is what have caused Chrysalis to rule over Equestria.
0 likesAlthough not 100% canon, the mlp comic series says that Shinning met Cadance at school and that he recommended her to be Twilight's babysitter so he could get closer to her since he had fallen in love.
0 likesLet's see this theory of how cadence and shining met
3 likesHere is My plan on how Chrysalis took over.
0 likesFirst of all I think Twighlight was still a student in the school she just wasn't Celestia's personal protechae.
Now Celestia would probably be away from canterlot for this to work and I'm guessing this happened near S1 in dragon shy.
Celestia would deal with the smoke on her own and succeeded Until Chrysalis and her army attacked her and put her in that coucoun.
Then all she needed to do would be to take over canterlot. (Cadence would probably be in the caves an Luna would try fighting and Probably loose)
When Chrysalis attacked I think Celestia's school would hide in the castle. When Chrysalis attacks the castle and tries to hurt everyone I think Twighlight would face her and put up a decent fight. Then the rest of the school of Magic would help but ultimately Fail.
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2 likesYour non binary!!!
Congrats on comming out, even if it's indirect-
Wow, i noticed your icon ! You're non binary, thats so cool,,, i am non binary as well! I love your videos !!
1 likeEdit: i now identify as a demigirl, but still under the non-binary umbrella
I LOVE THIS THEORY
1 likeCan someone PLEASE explain how "Prince BlueBlood" is Celestias NEPHEW?
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I think that he is not actually her nephew but simpler to cadence he was adopted as a nephew
0 likes@LyssaWissaThePumkinEater Fair point, So your suggesting cadence would be the mother?
0 likesOh wait, nvm. You meant "Similar" not "Simpler"
0 likes@Clxudywaves sorry I did
0 likes@LyssaWissaThePumkinEater no no, don't apologize. I have bad grammar too XD
0 likesMaybe cadence and shining armor would still get married and have Chrysalis try to take over.During the wedding Luna isn't there so Chrysalis could have Kidnapped her and used her to capture Celestia and all the other powerful pony's.
0 likesEqaustria would be doomed without the mane 6- 💀✨
2 likesive been watching you for years and I seem your pfp and screamed so much !! so cool
0 likesWAIT SAWTOOTH IS ENBY?! I TOTALLY JUST NOTICED THE PROFILE CHANGE-
1 likeIf so congrats on coming out to such a huge piece of the Internet 🥺i know the closet is a sucky place, myself and my friends have been there
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So on behalf of my school’s GSA, welcome😌
0 likesAmazing!
5 likesHate to break this to you man, but the comics revealed that shining armor and cadance met in high school and cadance took the foal sitting job to learn more about him from twilight. Twilight still would've been a student if she failed the test, just a less important one, status had nothing to do with it, so the family still would've stayed in the same place. Of course, if you don't believe the comics to be canon, (even though they totally are), that's your opinion. But to me, this theory is flat out false. I recommend you check out a video from 2016 by dragon trainer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0, he presents a much more likely theory.
0 likesEdit: sorry if I sounded insulting, you’re a great theorizer
Let's all leave applause for rainbow dash without her crazy boom the whole pony world would probably be dead
0 likesOne of the best videos you have ever made so far
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thanks but this is one of the worst! (read pinned comment) next video will be one of the best 👀
1 like@Sawtooth Waves that was before i saw the Pinned comment... im so sorry for you Sawtooth
1 likeLove your pfp! You’re NB? I should refer to you as they, right ? That’s awesome btw :D
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yes please ^^
1 likeWonderful theory as always there was no doubt. But why does it have to be two parts!!!!!!
0 likesWE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT WHAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN.
1 likeCongratulations! Your NB!
0 likesWhen is the next video? Plz! I wanna know what happens! The suspense is gnawing on me like crazy!
0 likesHey Dr. Wolf sawtooth needs another therapy appointment!
5 likes(I’m talking about the theory explosion not non-binary, that isn’t something to be ashamed of.)
Need to do part 2
0 likesYesssss
2 likesEdit: i like how the nameless one pushed him into the portal
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1 likeAm pretty sure Twilight had Cadence as a Foalsitter before the Rainboom, in flashbacks Twilight was still a Blank Flank
0 likesMy cousin says “i cant believe that a real life man is doing this type of stuff”, but i like you’re content, the reason im writing this, out of spite
0 likesI love just showing up at random in your videos
3 likesI love your mlp videos!
1 likeI haven’t watched MLP for the longest time, but I can’t let this channel go. These theories are still great, man, and they always leave me gobsmacked, or something like that. Also congrats to Sawtooth for coming out!!! I’m nb as well, so it’s really cool to see that a creator I’ve looked up to for so long shares that identity. Happy pride everyone!
0 likesYou should turn and on the reformedchanging to blend in so that nobody gets suspicious of you
0 likesAw cool you're nonbinary, I support!!!
3 likesWAIT SO
1 likeONE OF MY FAVOURITE "CHILDHOOD" YOUTUBERS IS A ENBY????? YESSSSSSS
Honestly her plan was probably a rendition of Plan B that was stopped by Starlight and Thorax
0 likesGreat video❤️
0 likesI just realized u have a non binary flag in ur pfp :D
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WAIT WHAT
2 likes@Genesis Torres yeah it true :D also I got a heart!!!!! Yay thank u!!!!!!!
3 likesGentle reminder for people that Sawtooth goes by They/Them pronouns!
0 likesThey're nonbinary!
Bit late for an April Fool's video, ain't it?
0 likesCadance was Twilight's foalsitter long before Midnight Twinkle got her Cutie Mark
Twilight is really powerfull, but without RD she whould not be. So what I'm saying, shouldn't RD be the most important one? 😂
0 likesAnother great video!
0 likesI read cadence as candice I-
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deez nuts jokes really are tearing society apart /j
3 likesPrincess Cadence: hey! My name is Cadence
1 like@jess yeah 😭
0 likes@Rosella I'M SORRY WODJFJF 😔🙏🙏
0 likes@• rιnтaro • you don’t have to be sorry okay, Cadence was complaining not me.
0 likesInsert Pokémon reference here
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves what if that last time line in the Starlight episode was twilights doing. Because in that time line the rainboom wouldn't happen because of which twily's magic wouldn't go hay wire and celestia would never notice her raw abilities.
0 likesShe would still get her cutie mark but a dark version of it because celestia was the reason she would learn to control her abilities and with both celestia her magic would go hay wire.
I personally see only 2 outcomes to this:
Either she meets zecora and zecora helps her tame her abilities and gets her prober cutie mark
Or she practices magic her self like sunburst except he had a little guidance from celestia while she had none. Her magic would be every where and would probably hurt others even though she doesn't wanna do it that is when she gets the dark version of her cutie mark. From there she eventually gives up on resisting her destiny and gives in. Eventually she over throws everyone and ends up becoming a dark alicorn.
Her battle with celestia was legendary but in the end. The magical imbalance caused destroys the world and everyone with it.
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Gasp I'm soooooooooo... late
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves
0 likesthe changeling's nonbinary, how fitting 🌸!
2 likesOmg!! Yesss! A part 2 😁😁😁😁
0 likesThis content this AMAZING!
0 likesRealization that in their pfp, behind them is a non binary flag
6 likeshappy pikachu face
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:D
2 likesImagine your sisters test being the thing that get you your marriage
0 likesDude I just noticed your pfp awsome job dude I'm a demigirl so it's nice to know there are YouTubers I can look too for lgbtq models
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video about if 🦄s can use their magic to regrow their broken horns! Or what happens if a 🦄’s horn brakes, will it die? 🤔 about it.
0 likesThe comic does explain how they met and Twilight did not have her cutie mark yet when being babysitted.
0 likesYAY MULTIVERSE
3 likesjust wanted to say awesome pfp and happy pride month!
1 likeHappy pride month sawtooth!
1 likeNow I can guess that celestial was still a princess cause she and Luna ruled together. And stayed a princess in honor of lunas memory. But why isn’t twilight a queen. It looks like she rules alone. We know kings exist in canon cause king sombra
0 likesPlease have a part 2
0 likesWooo I LOVE UR NEW PROFILE SAWTOOTH:D
5 likesMaybe you’ll get to see what happened before the princess asked shining armor to put up the force field
0 likesI love them so much lol. they were my first crush lol!!!!!!!
1 likemain 5 beacuse you had said main 6 twilight is needed beacuse otherwise cadence needed twilight for a bit of hope 😊
0 likesProblem with the Theory tho Twilight didn't had a cutie mark when Cadence was her foalsitter. Which means it was before her exams since she got it as a result of the exams.
0 likesI only just realised that their profile pic has the non-binary flag colours on the background
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sawtooth goes by they/them
0 likes@Hepoxni better? :)
1 like@abumaahil :D
0 likes@Hepoxni :D
0 likesDo you know cadence sounds a whole lot like Candace😱😱
0 likesBut sawtooth I noticed in the pictures of twilight and cadence when twilight was a filly she never had her cutie mark ! Sooooo…. That means the royal wedding could’ve happened but chrysalis still would’ve been defeated but flurry heart wouldn’t have been born because twilight and her friends righted the changelings ,together and without twilight and her friends flurry wouldn’t have existed and yes the crystal would be back but twilight never became a princess
0 likesSAWTOOTH IS A CHANGELING HE CAN CHANGE INTO WHAT CHANGELINGS USED TO LOOK LIKE AND not get attacked voila master olan to not die
0 likesAt this point I feel like Rainbow Dash shouldve become an Alicorn as she changed the destiny of EVERYONE thanks to her ONE rainboom like.. woow!
0 likesI STOPPED EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE A NB PROFILE PIC. HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING AND NEVER FORGET THAT YOU ARE VALID AND NOBODY CAN SAY OTHERWISE.
4 likesPlease make a video on how age works because sunset went into the portal before twilight was going to celestial's school (twilight got in when she was just a filly) yet they were both in the same grade at canterlot high. im so confused help.
1 likeWell done
0 likesAmazing theorie! As always!
0 likesAlso nice pfp I love the non binary falg! Happy price month :-)
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Happy pride month to u too :D
0 likes@stick mation ty!
0 likesYay new theory
3 likesI agree with you on everything but when twilight was still little she didn’t have her cutie mark when cadence was foal sitting her you can even go to season two episode 25 for proof
0 likesCan the nameless person come more often
1 likeWhen will part two come out
0 likesthe sonic raimboom gave the mane 6 their cutiemarks. twilight would of never gotten that spell correctly, meaning her magic probably wouldn't of been as good as it was, so twilight wouldn't be able to freeze or whatever she did to cadence
0 likesHey Dude Sup
4 likesAnd see this -
Rainbow Dash - Hello, Gilda!
Gilda - Dash!
Pinkie Pie - Pinkie!
Rainbow Dash - Lightning Dust!
Lightning dust - Rainbow Dash!
Scootaloo - Scootaloo, my name is scootaloo
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Lol
1 likeDidn’t Cadence babysit Twi when she was a blankflank, though? Also woooo, fellow enbyyy!
0 likesTwilight wouldn't be able to to stop queen Chrysalis,she would have just acted as the rest of the mane 6,Twilight was able to recognize her strange behaviour because Cadance use to be Twilight's foalsitter.
0 likesSawtooth I think Chrysalis did everything differently.
0 likesReally cool vid! FRIST!!!
7 likesI rewatched the Chrysalis part of the episode too many times after watching this...
0 likesActually Chrysalis would have won because if Twilight wasn't there then she wouldn't have been found and then Cadence wouldn't have gotten the idea to escape like that and she wouldn't be able to break free of the thingy that was holding her on the ground
0 likesEah, but there IDW comics that explain how love princess and shiny meet.
1 like3 views, 15 likes?
3 likesI did not know that rarity has abilities by using her horn to defend herself
0 likesActually cadance foalsitted twilight before the Sonic rainboom as u can see during Twilight's flashback of cadance she didn't have her cutie mark and we can see that during their sunshine song or whatever she didn't have her cutie mark. Anyways very good theory also can you read my comments with ideas on the videos before this one.
0 likesHm but if you notice, twilight was being foalsat before she got her cutie mark, meaning she and cadance met even before the rainboom happened and she got accepted into Celestia's school. So maybe cadance being her foalsitter may not be linked to the rainboom after all?
0 likesI know this doesn't relate to the video I think the reason some ponies had the flowy mane because they were very powerful
0 likesSecond
3 likesI've been wanting a video about why there isn't a human starlight glimmer
0 likesYeah, the only hole is that there is a scene with Twilight and Cadence where Twilight clearly doesn't have her cutie mark
0 likesBro could u make a video about how Aria (from the Dazzlings) and Starlight Glimmer could be the same person or maybe related??
1 likeHe is just trying to get rid of you Sawtooth Waves. Think of what a powerful Chrysalis could do on finding you, a changeling from a different universe...
0 likeslook at cadances cutie mark when she holds the heart on the eposide crestaly empire ep 2 and close to the end when ses holding the crestal heart her mrak glows!
0 likesOmg, you're nonbinary?? Omg!! I literally just discovered I was, too! Whoa!! Epic!! :D
1 like(I found out I was enby like a couple weeks ago uwu)
What if Cozy Glow is Queen Chrysalis from the Equestria Girls universe just in the form of a pegasus named Cozy Glow?
0 likesI just watched this video a few days ago I think I looked at your pfp I was like wait a minute I support your non binary and btw I'm bisexual happy pride month
0 likesGood theory how starlight change the time line it makes sense now. Part 2!
0 likesApart from the ruler of The crystal empire Twilight wasn’t the first Alicorn Remember that episode where in clouds well Rainbow Dash Need extra support But flatter shy was too quiet TwilightTurned Rarat In to an alicorn Before she was turned 😱😱😱😱😱
0 likesWhen are you gonna make part 2
1 likeWhen is the part two releasing
0 likesThe only flaw I see is that twilight didn’t have her cutie mark when cadence was her foal sitter
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too bad that's an enormous glaring flaw 😔
1 likeTwilight didn't have her cutie mark when cadence was her foalsitter, this means, cadence would have been her foalsitter with or without the rainboom
1 likeLove your videos
0 likesthere's actually a mlp comic about how they met tho but well you can't really tell if it's 100% canon,,,
0 likesHmm😐remember during the timeline,Twilight ended up in a world with zacora in a battle with chrysalis ,THINK HARD,it may lead to how chrysalis took over Equestria
1 likeThat makes Rainbow Dash the writer of destiny
1 likeSawtooth waves one question what if starlight stop the 3 pony tribe from coming together
1 likeI love your new profile pic! It surely made my non-binary heart beating! Are you non-binary too?
1 like💛🤍💜🖤
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i am! 💛🤍💜🖤
0 likesTheory a being( pony or something) could create go all dark multiverse while puppeteering everything
0 likesThis guy is like a master detective👍✨✨
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@mrlovermxn umm ok
0 likes@mrlovermxn umm ok
1 like@mrlovermxn never knew about that
1 likeEven without the rainbom Cadence was still twilights foulsitter
0 likesI got you a really interesting video idea, sodor is ran by engines, with face and talk, thomas the tank engine descover the magic railroad, so, theoretically would thomas be able to go to equestria, if they could share the same universe, and would thomas become a pony if he himself went through
0 likesThis is something I have always wondered
0 likesThanks
twi's flank being blank during the foulsitting
0 likesChrysalis was thorax's mom and grandma of sawtooth.
0 likes2:12 VIP, Very Important Pony. I see what you did there
2 likesI guess you’re kind of right will there be a part two of this or nt
0 likesYou’re non-binary!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the club!!!!!!🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
2 likesThis leads me to solving Tempest x Neighsay 🙂
0 likesThe weird thing is that Stygian looks like Star swoorl but younger
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OH FRICK
0 likesWhat if the Villain of the MLP G5 is Grogar, Because in the G4 Magic had stopped and there is a chance that Grogar was freed but if he wasn't then why not now because by the looks of it there's no magic so doesn't that mean there's nothing holding Grogar down or imprison?
0 likesHello! Just wanted to check with the pfp change, do you prefer they/them sawtooth? Just wanted to check :)
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yes please 😊
2 likes“nO maNe Six rEquiRed For thAt”
0 likesYou got the mane 6 punching the air in the coffins
Non-binary pride my friend B)
2 likesSawtooth it’s a good theory but what if Chrysalis DIDN’T win
0 likesnb moment ✨
2 likesI just thought of something idk if you've made a video talking about this but the egg twilight had to hatch (spike) where did the egg come from? At the time the dragons and ponies didn't get along so did they steal the egg? Was the egg artificially made by celestia? And did every pony have to hatch ab egg to get into celestia's school? And if they did where did all the baby dragons go?
0 likesIf anyone knows any of these answers or if some of this was answered in the show and I missed it could you please leave a comment? XD I watched the series twice but watching this video just now made me wonder just how that all happened and what they do woth the unmatched and even hatched eggs because not every Pony who attended the school of magic had a dragon from what I recall only twilight did.
The two of them already met and dated at highschool. See MLP IDW issues #9-#10.
0 likesAh, nice pfp I love it! 😌
1 likeI love ur profile pic! ☺️🏳️🌈
1 likeHold up first of all twilight met the real cadence right yes well then she used her magic to break the rock to find her to try and stop the fake one but if she had her magic why not use her magic to escape than finding out a way
0 likesAWSOME video!😊
0 likesMake a part two
0 likesI think it had something to do with thorax and how if twilight never passed spike wouldn't help thorax
0 likesI want to know how they met
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video to find out what happened to Gallus’s parents and family!
0 likesIf we remove the rest of the Mane 6 there would be only 1 bridesmaid (or 4)
0 likes2:42 you just say it how they did the wedding
0 likesin the comics there is a comic about their backstory-
0 likesNo. Even if they were a couple in alt timeline. No wedding cuz of nightmare moon. They might be trying to fight her back at the time, no wedding. Or she did something to cadence so there is only 1 princess
0 likesAnd the best youtuber goes to SAWTOOTH WAVES CONGRATS
1 likeI think your gonna find keep switching
2 likesFutures. Their won’t be just one solution.
They never met starlight and starlight couldn’t stop queen chrysalis the second time she was attacking them
0 likesBut in all the flashbacks of young cadence and twilight Sparkle together. Twilight Sparkle never has her Cutie Mark and Twilight only gets her cutie mark after she passes the test for magic school.
0 likesAdding on to all of the disproving in the comments I can disprove it with (drum roll...) THE MLP COMICS!!!!!!!
0 likesOne of the Three comics explains how they meet.
I can't wait till our changeling meets those changelings
0 likesthe answer is that the rainboom did not happen so she did not get the blast of magic she needed
0 likesThis is getting interesting...
2 likeslove this video!
2 likesP.S. YOUR PFP MAKES ME SO HAPPY! IM OMNISEXUAL AND AGENDER!!!
Honest mistake with the portal, you got whix confused with whax In the spell
0 likes4:13 made me laugh XD
0 likesIve always wondered about king sombra timeline
0 likesBut wasn't Cadence Twilight's foal sitter before the sonic rainboom, I'm pretty sure she's still a blank flank 🤔🤔🤔
0 likesNo cutiemark on twilights flank be like: im about to end this mans whole career
1 likeLuv your new profile picture!!!!
2 likesSaw tooth you are too young to comprehend and Chrissy is too old to comprehend.
0 likesCan’t wait!
0 likesLove = friendship on steroids
0 likesAwesome and cool!
0 likesIsnt there a whole Comic About this entire Thing? Its A comic called Neigh Anything, Where Shining A DND Lover and Cadence meet and They both Figure out they are meant for each other and start dating at the Ball at the end of the comic
0 likesWHERE THE HECK IS THE NEXT VIDEO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ALL WEEK (great videos by the way I love them I’m surprised you have not reached 9000000000000000 already like that makes about as much sense as bees not dying when they sting you so no sense at all)
0 likesTHIS WHOLE THEORY IS WRONG SAWTOOTH. WHen Twilight had the flashback Twilight had a blank flank I saw it with my own eyes so they could have met before and the wedding would have still happened
0 likesWhen twilight is on the swing and cadence is pushing her she has no cutie mark and I think that's a problem to this theory
0 likesIn the pictures you showed us of cadence and Twilight she had no cutie Mark but the But when the rainbow really happened Twilight had a cutie Mark because of it but that means kittens with her false it before her cutie Mark which means Christmas probably would have the same plan
0 likesBut twilight had no cutie mack ( at least I think) but I think cadice could have been her full sitter when shining armor became a gard because he couldn't watch her. They could have still keeped in touch since twilight had Celestia. Nm moon would have won but the Cristal empire might try to take NM moon down, since their busy with that, queen crisles could attack the ce (Cristal empire) slowly getting love and power, then they attack the last princess.
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Sorry I'm bad at speling
0 likesOhhhh YAY! I LOVE this! AMAZING
0 likesEdit: I have an idea!
Best main 6 parents?!
I dunno is it good?
2:19 but the flashbacks to cadence foulsitting twilight show twilight without her cutie mark
0 likesAre you non binary. I'm asking because of your profile with the NB flag. I'm genderfluid between female non binary and agender. Today I was non binary also I love all your vids ❤️
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i am enby!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves I'm enby again today and a pansexual everyday 😊
0 likesMany have been waiting for his video to come 😄
0 likesI am LGBTQ+ as well so know you have my support I actually know and NB girl to (she is my crush)
1 likeSawtooth I have a theory I know you said sunset shimmer might be sunburst sister but if you look at sunset shimmers cutie mark it looks like celestia’s but with half red is she related to celestia?
0 likesHere is a new theory what if there was a 3 sister of the stars because the sun is a star so what could it be in MLP so basically a video idea is looking on what stars are in mlp (and also you mentioned some people thought there was a system of the stars in your grogare releasing nightmare moon video but technically that’s not possible because the sun is a star but at the same time we would have to go in there to see with stars planets and other planetary objects are in MLP
1 likeCool theory, but in the comics it’s revealed that they met in high school
0 likesDude I have the comics so how Cadance and Shining Armor met they were in high school or college and they met each other and Shining Armor fell in love and sang a song about how he loved “pretty pink mares with colorful hair” and blah and blah and BOOM! Season 2 they got married
0 likesSo basically, no RD, no wedding.
0 likesHappy pride month!
1 likeYOU HAVE THE NON BINARY FLAG ON YOUR PFP OMG
2 likesHAPPY PRIDE MONTH
It's sad that my little pony ended 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
0 likesWhat if Day breaker helped her, it is an different timeline remember
1 like(Gasp) one hour? I can’t believe how late I am. I have been waiting for a video for ages and I am late? Oh, I look away for a moment and this happened.
2 likesHey could you put subtitles on your videos, because l'm from Brazil 😅😆
1 likeI believe Twilight had nothing to do with Shining and Cadance relationship
0 likesReally amazing teory!!
0 likesI have a question, can a earth pony turn into a unicorn if unicorns can turn into Alicorn then is a earth pony able to turn into a unicorn.
0 likesActually another Bronie made a Theory about how every Timeline could happen and in my Opinion it makes total sense. You shouöd check it out for you Theory: https://youtu.be/SfLM4gLikg0
0 likesMy little pony ends leaving cadence a mystery
0 likesSawtooth: so u plan to do that!!
I think u might find that crystals took cadence under her wing and she and shining are at war
0 likesKai Keebler isn't here, so I'll cover for him. Happy Pride Month!
0 likesAt the end:
2 likesMe: umm..... bye uh.... Sawtooth...
My voice in my head: man that is weird
I wish you posted more often 🙁
0 likesits nice to know my favourite youtuber is also nonbinary :))
0 likesIf I hadn’t had to go to school I would have seen your video right as it came outAlso this is the first time I’ve commented on one of your videos I like your theories
0 likesImagine if Dash was the main character in the show instead of Twilight
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It would be insufferable.
0 likesQuestion: how is there a pony and human of the ponies in equestria, but one Sunset Shimmer? Interesting... 🤔🤔
0 likesI do also remember idw making a comic where cadence and shining were in high school.
0 likesYou forgot the changeling guard attack thing
0 likesSee ya next universe, Sawtooth!
1 like"And that's how I met your mother."
0 likesGreat one
1 likeI still remember you being brony notion 7 years earlier
2 likesRic Flair I found a problem Twilight was a blank flank when she was her babysitter so they would still meet
0 likesCan we see a human sunset shimmer Please!
0 likesOmg im so desprate for a part two!
0 likesI mean u could also argue that she took over cause twilight couldn't free cadence cause she wasn't strong enough
0 likesI Love your videos
0 likesStarlight would never tried to prevent the sonic rainboom if there wasn't the mane 6
0 likesGood theory but didn’t twilight get her cutie mark after the rainboom? That being said all the clips of twilight being foal sitted by cadence she doesn’t have her cutie mark
0 likesHey sawtooth will you still make g4 videos after g5 comes out?
0 likesWhen cadence was twilight’s foalsitter twilight was a blank flank
0 likeswow i predicted the theory before it happened lol, good vid
0 likesWait a second, if the rainboom hadn't happened then SPIKE WOULDNT BE THERE EITHER. Spike's egg hatched because of the boost from the rainboom. Without it his egg wouldn't hatch
0 likesI liked your idea Sawtooth, but you are wrong. If you look closely, you will see that Twilight was a blank-flank when she had Cadanse as her foal-sitter. No Sonick-Rainbom required.😉😉😉
0 likesIt's really, solid but the pinned comment does ruin it a bit. So maybe instead of how Cadance and Shining armor met, it's Cadance and Twilight? Or how the family met Cadence?
0 likesHey what if a boy did something prince worthy like Twilight did to become a princess
1 likeYour pfp gives me life. Hi, I'm enby too 💛💜🖤
1 likeGOOOOOOOOD THEOOOORY yea yea we see your interested in shining and cadence yea we know
0 likesThe rainboom also helped the Mane 6 to get their cutie mark.
0 likesI wonder if the show forgot that the mane 6 didn't do anything during the Chrysalis takeover
0 likes4:35
0 likesMe:YOU WILL FIND OUT THE FACT THAT EVERYONE MUST HOVE DIED
I think this theory is WRONG! I re-watch the series so many times and I noticed that twilight was a BLANK-FLANK DURING HERE TIME WITH CADENCE!!!!!! (Plz don't ask why I'm writing this comment now. I also re-watch Sawtooth's vids 100 times.)
0 likesCan we maybe have a story of how your character got their cutiemark? 👉🏻👈🏻
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They're a changeling
2 likesI'm a changeling so i don't have a real cutiemark!! i designed a simple symbol to blend in better with the ponies
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves Better not tell that to Twilight!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh okay, sorry! <3
0 likesWhy was Chrysalis stopped with love, the very thing she was trying to devour....?
0 likesI just realized that the flim flam alternate reality thing is because apple jack didn’t go back to the farm. So Granny Smith and Big Mac couldn’t keep the farm going by themselves
0 likes2:50 how does them interacting with each other been different at all? WTF are you on about this is why the world still has problems.
1 likeBut, Twi don't have her cutie mark in flashbacks, and if mane six have never met, and have no cutie mark, that's mean chrysalis can take over easily, she just have to get rid of Celestia and Luna, wait...if there is no mane six it means there is no Luna so, what do you think, does all the villians United as one or did they have fight? For Equestria,?
0 likesI mean Nightmare Moon wanted to rule Equestria alone, becuz she was jealous of Celestia, but Chrysalis wanted food for her subjects, tirek wanted all the magic, discord wait discord was never reformed!!!
And he wanted to change equestria into a chaos, right??
So, maybe... don't think but maybe... If mane six aren't there,.. that means...there is no Equestria (don't forget storm king)
Edit: that's mean there is no sombra?? But if there is no Cadance and Shining, that's mean there is no Crystal Empire and if there is no Crystal Empire that's mean there is no Sombra!!?
Chrysalis tried to protect her son thorax from king sombra.
0 likesI can not wait for your next video. I wonder what is going to happen 🤔🤔
0 likesHappy 390k subscribers! 🤩
0 likesHAHA the bye bye it’s a doc strange reference
1 likePlease!!! Upload the next video already. It's been a week and z am dying of boredom here.
1 likeNameless is annoyed at this point 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeI knew it I knew it I knew you were part of the lgtbtqia+ community just like me
1 likeI love your theories but cadence foal sat twilight before she had gotten into magic school!
0 likesWhen I heard Nameless’s sigh for the first time, I thought it was a FNAF jumpscare loool. 😅
1 likeHi there, milka here again. So i agree with this theory you have. So i have a question here. Can you make a video without twilight's friend?
0 likes💜💜💜
1 likeSawtooth: is NB and has a Changeling Sona
1 likeMe: SAME HAT!!!
Anyway happy pride y'all! 😅😂💜
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On that note, idk the nameless one's gender identity, but i for one would love to identify as an interdimensional framing device 🥺
2 likesthanks! and he's a dude, he/him :3
1 likeCould you please make a video about the upcoming G5 movie?
1 likeWhat about the part where the mane 6 searched for the elements?
0 likesHello I am starting my own mlp theories and celestial and luna were born alicorns you said that the shows creator said luna and celestia were born alicorns maybe their parents wanted them to have a normal childhood so they had star swirl hide their wings. also pls give the credit to Valkyrie
0 likesWait I twilight had her magic she could've just teleported to the wedding
0 likesWhat this actually makes sense
1 likeI think like this Shining be a Royal Guard Candence falling in love And Chrichalis plan is perfect
0 likescadance wouldnt be seet free without twighlight
0 likesEver heard of Twilight glimmer Pony that was pissed at Twilight for ruining her plans and she bailed Revenge what if this is her revenge setting the past backwards
0 likesYooo, you're nb? I know you're probably getting a lot of comments but, that's rlly cool to me! I'm trans/genderqueer (also they/them). Idk, I used to watch your vids a while back and it's just cool to me :D
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Yes
0 likesYES, THANK YOU
0 likesWITHOUT RAINBOWDASH, EQUESTRIA WOULD HAVE BEEN DOOMEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves you might need a bounty hunter to help you
0 likesThe thing is... Twillght is the meaning of life...
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Yeeeeeeees
0 likesHowdy love you pfp! Happy pride month🏳️🌈❤️
0 likesDay 1 of trying to get sawtooth to come back
0 likesI think crisolis still inpersinats a princess but instead of candince she inpersinats princess celestia
0 likesWelcome to the enby side! We have cookies and cake! :D
0 likesWait because that nonbinary flag fits with your oc-
1 likewhat if discord went through the human portal
1 likeSAWTOOTH I am still waiting for part 2! XD jk take your time “but not toooo long”
1 likeThat means flurry heart never exists.... If crystalis was a royal before hand she would've met king sombra who was assumed to be the previous king of the unicorn tribe during star swirl and the pillars of light so I'm assuming she got sombras help and they ruled together and she did the dirty work for him as a mistress since woman or mares were probably given the same old "mares belong in the house" talk as fillies and she would've used sombras control helmets used as subtle things like jewelry and gemstones to control other ponies like the crystal ponies who would be depressed af when Crysalis takes over and where are the windigos?
0 likesMaybe I the rain boom never happened celesta wouldn’t know twilight so cadence would know shining arm .
0 likesNon-binary pog? That's vlaid mate!
2 likesThe sonic rainboom made the future...if dash didn't did it ....mlp wouldn't have been same as today...
0 likesWell this is a big step now let's see how you find out about this one like one of my members of team servant dancers in chrysalis part you may ask werecat
0 likesDid you know that a changeling is creature in European countries?
0 likesTwighlight was a blank flank when with cadence
0 likesBut twilight was still a blank flank when cadence was her foal sitter
0 likesuh... maybe just maybe since twilight didn't become celestia's student shining armor didn't become a royal guard? Thus preventing the two spouses from ever meeting? Again just Maybe also someone comment if i missed something
0 likesi love your vidios and good job on this one
0 likesI have a theory that all these bad things are happening becouse of twilight as if she was never there or anyone the queen's would have fought and then Twilight's baby sitter would become queen of equestria then things would be perfect
0 likesI think chrissy helped sombra and nightmare moon.
0 likesCan you do a theory on what happened to Applejack’s parents?
0 likesMaybe you could change into your changeling form so you know they won't try and you know get rid of you
0 likesPart 2 plss
0 likesAwesome video
0 likesIn my dream I was transported to the dimension where chrysalis took over equestria and I was badly injured by novamos and he died by me kicked novamos into the closing portal and his headless body in are world now and novamos head in that dimension and I was able to get up but can't walk or move entirely and nameless I fix the bit and both you and flurry heart have dimensional magic now and I was knocked out and woke up in a fortress and holy cow this things bigger than any castle and I was under repair by changlings and chrysalis was shocked and saw me wake up and was asking a question of what happened and I explained about novamos me and you sawtooth showed up body slaming some scathulding and you were surprised about what happened and found a gravestone of my name and chrysalis said she and in this dimension both of us was female anyways died by getting killed by novamos from my world and crushing her heart and ended by apex ( from are world) showed up and doing recon and died by my plasma caster to the chest and I was nearly done repaired a 1 problem my legs are all sorts of messed up and heres the thing this dimension goalius didn't die but swapped deaths with novamos friend the devil gundam and this dimension goalius named giyanus was the castle i was getting repaired and we trade resources and she my sister
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Dreams are weird.
1 like@n I know
1 likeHi new big fan here!!
0 likesWhy Cadance is an alicorn??
Did she tranform like Twiligth Sparkle did??
Is that an enby flag behind you?!
2 likes:)
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yep!!!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves how is it possible to love your channel more? Ahh! Happy pride, I love your videos so much, they always put a smile on my face.
1 likeYes that is. :D
0 likes@Slash_Dash happy pride month to u too
0 likesI just finished season 8 of Mlp on Netflix but I cant seem to find the 9th season on Netflix but google said it would be on Netflix?😕
0 likesSo anyways I was wondering if someone could tell me where I can watch the 9th season for free?
Thanks I would appreciate it a lot! 😅
I mean we saw cadance being twilights babysitter before twilight had her cutie mark. And I think cadence wasn’t even a unicorn then. So maybe it was just coincidence that they both happen to become princesses
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cadance was an alicorn back then. we've never seen her as anything else
1 like@Sawtooth Waves yeah idk I just remember one of her lines being “I’m not used to flying” or “I’m out of practice” or something. And everyone was like. Cadance you were born a Pegasus what do you mean
0 likesEver think about this, RAINBOW DASH SAVED ALL OF DAM EQUESTRIA
0 likesHappy queen chrysalis day
1 likeDid u all know that rainbow dash should be the new alicorn princess instead of twilight because if the rain boom didn’t happen twilight would have never met her friends or save the world from nightmare moon in the first place so it’s rainbow dash who saved the world and has to be crowned alicorn princess who is with me in this theory
0 likesI'm nonbinary too! I use they/he/it+ neopronouns myself
0 likesTwilight found a way to stop Twilight Glimmer from causing a big mess so none of this even needs to be worried about just get on with this please I don't need you acting like Doctor Who
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0 likesWrong twilight was still a blank flank when cadence was foalsitting and twilight got her cutie mark right after the rainboom
0 likeslets talk about cadence and shining armor are siblings
0 likesAyy sawtooth I see the non binary flag
1 likeOk quick question about Sunset, she was from Equestria so.. where is her dubbelganger?
0 likesSawtooth waves I have a question for you is princess amore cadences mother I have some evidence that might mean that amore is her mom. 1.every family has the same last name like princess amore and Me AMORE cadenza see the AMORE .2. Princess amore has pink and purple hair princess cadence had pink and purple hair to but I still dont know why she has some yellow streaks maybe she dyed her hair yellow to remember BLUE blood. Last evidence if princess amore is cadences mother then that can also lead to other possibilities for princess celestia and Luna so cadence has amore as her mom celestia and Luna have queen galaxia and Queen Novo the hippogriff has Queen Cora as her mom right?????I'll leave you to answer it.
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Sawtooth can you answer this
0 likesI am christian and found out that sawtooth used to be too Im not here to argue or fight but just to say I really hope you come back to Christ bc he is amazing when yo get to know him. But if not enjoy your life to the fullest I guess. BTW I've been watching you for probably more than 2 years now
0 likesI'm also non-binary!
0 likesBut wasn't Cadence Twilight's sitter before she got her mark?
1 likeWhat about the comics ? Cadance and Shining Armor are at school together .
0 likesI know this video is old but I'll say this anyways. There is a comic that explains how they met so I don't know if this video is that relevant. The comic is from 2013 so it definitely didn't come out after this video. If anyone is wondering what I'm talking about it's issues 11 and 12 of the MLP Friendship is magic comic books
0 likesVideo request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
1 likeWow I can’t wait
0 likesI love your videos I know shinning amor met cadence it twilight sparkle and cadence foal sitting that they met
1 likeI see Sawtooth Was disappear to the Portal Of Changeling Kingdom 5:18
0 likesToo cool😝👌💮
1 likeIt makes alot of sense now
0 likesBut Twilight is not allcorn during the wedding and when starlight time travel she was
0 likes😍🎂🥳
0 likesIf cadence and shining armor wasn"t been a couple then why do they have a baby?
0 likesIf cadence and shining armor wasn"t been a couple then why do they have a baby?
0 likesHey, I saw you on the “oh, f*** you, Luigi!” comment section. Been a while since I saw you anywhere. Was quite unexpected. Your profile picture was a wonderful surprise, especially as a fellow nb!
2 likesyou are wrong because twighlit did not have her cutie mark when she was a filly and cadence was her full-term.😂
0 likesWHERE IS PART 2
0 likesHi love your videos!!
0 likesIn my theory is that Chystalist only came to Canterlot to feed for babies, if she ever wanted to take over then why only Canterlot? She’ve could’ve came to a different place and take over from there, but she only came to Canterlot, one princess was captured, why not capture all? She only wanted Shining Armor’s love to feed her babies
0 likesWith out the six meeting she will win
0 likesTwilight sparkle with a blank flank in the episode of cadence babysitting Twilight
0 likesLove your pfp!
0 likesI have a question, What abt unicorn's magic? why are they different colors? Does it really matters? what about StarLight's magic when she got mad? (I don't remember what season was this)
0 likesshe had something like a red magic
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Unicorn magic are almost always the color of their eyes. There are exceptions though like Celestia
0 likesBecause of that pinned person, Sawtooth has to make new theory about this
0 likesDragons grow when they are greedy and spike is small cz he is not greedy..but in the future he is big..I kinda like this theory
0 likesis it just your oc thats nonbinary or are you nonbinary too? if so thats cool, and I hope this isn't personal but when did you realise? I realized at around 6ish years old :D
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I've known something was up for a while but i settled on enby last year
2 likesEarly! Also, am I the only one who thought the voice was his clone?😂
0 likesWait did I miss the part where they come out as nb
0 likesweird question but where's the other sunset? we see in the human world that there's a duplicate of everybody so where's the human sunset?
0 likesThe Nameless one guy is funny
0 likesYay a Sawthooth Video
2 likesok so in the pinned comment it is pointed out that twilight didnt have a cutie mark in the flashback and you were reeling from not noticing this and now i shall point out another thing you didnt notice:
0 likesas you said int he beginnng Twilight freed cadence and she did the love boom thing
AS YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING TWILIGHT FREED CADENCE AND SHE DID THE LOVE THING
in this alternet timeline twilight was not a VIP student hence she wasnt sent to ponyvillie hence she was in canterlot and hence she probobly knew about cadences and shinning armors relaytionship so im theorysing that either twilight was sent to the chamber unable to escape because she wasnt tought about magic by celestia or she was tricked by crysalys pretending to be cadence and was killed
this would also explain the absence of a alternet timeline twilight in this timeline and if you think about it.. twilight not getting professional lessons by celestia / not becomeing a element would also explain twilights absence in the other timelines she was in canterlot or... was saddly dead due to not being powerfull enuff to defend herself
plese tell me what you think about my theory/me pointing out another inconsistency in your theory i spent a whie typeing this so i hope its actully seen XD
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0:32 is when sawtooth says twilight frees cadence long enuff to fight crysalyss ... she even used magic witch supports the theory that twilight wasnt as strong or trained magic wise in the other timeline !
0 likes5:15- 5:18 BYE BYE lol. Someone pls make this into a meme
0 likesMaybe Twilight didn't want to go to the wedding because " her studies " their for chrysalis would because Twilight would not be able or be there to free.... cadence would be dead.......welp theirs the answer for you
0 likesyour theory is good but is have a hole on it, Cadance do meet Twilight before she past her test, she meet Twilight and Shining before Twilight have her cutie magic, she baby sitting her and many other foal, She say her self, she love baby sitting her the most, how many foal she baby sitting is unknow, and really asking Chrysalis?
0 likesCool new Profile Pic. Happy Pride month!
0 likes<3
0 likesI’m non binary toooooo :)
0 likesA little correct here, but the main 6 wouldn't be together if it weren't for the rainboom. So they wouldn't be the main 6.
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i didn't feel like saying "the ponies who would have been the mane six" every time lol
0 likesstill waiting for a sirens theory.
0 likesI am bi and a demigirl
1 likeCan you make a video about twilight sparkle more specifically about twilight as a princess so she is going to be immortal and her friends aren’t going to be there and in the future we didn’t see Granny Smith so is it the Royal sisters didn’t think about it
0 likesJust to confirm,Which Sawtooth waves is talking rn 👀
0 likesThere's already a mlp comic explaining how theyve met
0 likesThe nameless man 🤣🤣🤣🤣 make a part 2 ok the nameless one
1 likethis comment section passed the vibe check
1 liketheory aside,,, I see that enby flag in your pfp
0 likesenby buddies <3
Chrysalis only get blast and throw away but chrysalis still don't want to give up Soo she stand up lol?
1 likeIt makes sense untill one comment ruin your whole video with a good proof and you miss it. It become more complicated now. I hope this time you can use 100% of your brain to find the true theory
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My opinion, I think Cadance became Twilight's foalsitter since she still a unicorn and before she become a princess. Because of her love to Twilight so Celestia decided to make it as an Alicorn. I think Shining Armor and Cadance just school at the same place and known each other
0 likesI put my comment on the last video you posted and can you pls check that bec it’s a really good theory for the history of the crystal empire
0 likes4:50 LMAOOOO 😂😂😂😂
0 likesHow do ponies get magical flowy hair
0 likesBut Twilight was a blank flank when Cadence foal sitted Twilight
0 likeswhen the syannax but no farefallen :pensive:
0 likessame time friday after next
I think it is they fell in love
0 likesyou should read comics because shining met cadance in school and shining asked cadance to foalsit twilight
0 likesHi I love your videos
0 likesYou should more my little pony
0 likesI think twillight was a blank flank
0 likesOMG YOUR PFP!!! I'M ALSO NON-BINARY!!! AHHHH
1 likeIf the rainboom DIDNT happend then spike is probably unborn or in some pony's hooves
0 likeswait why not turn into a changeling?
0 likesWait... NB?! AAAAAAAAA!!
1 like(A good kind of screaming btw)
Did some hook king thorax up to a jumper cable?
0 likesSorry I’m late!! I can’t do patreon, I’ll mail my pocket money to you ^^
1 likeim so sorry-
Twilight didn't have a cutie mark when cadence babysat her just look at when they first did the sunshine dance
0 likesIf you look is season 7 ep 7 like 11 minutes in theres a pony with twilights cutie mark but witha yellow star😳😳😂😂
0 likesWhat if everybody has said that shining has met well not a little bit but Coco the dragon loves that but what if we do another video about ponies and others too and why the princess was he lost her 🐴🦄🦓(◍•🐉❤ Crystal was manage because it was not
0 likesYasss I love your. Videos and. Series
0 likesstudent 6 would not even exist if the Rainboom haven't happened it was because the man 6 thorax was reformed and the other changelings reformed because of the Mane 6 and because of the Mane 6 the yaks became friends with the ponies and because of two of the main six befriended Grandpa graph AKA Griffin none of of the student 6 would have met if it wasn't for the Mane 6 well now the main 7
0 likesWhat would I think the sawtooth in that world is in jail or dead
0 likesgasp THAT'S THORAX!
0 likesI think its a good theory 😊
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so did i, but pinned comment 😔
0 likesI never thought about that! 😨omg!! It make all sense!!! 😱😱
0 likesHope you will be crown equestria's new ruler.
0 likesYour Awesome 😁
0 likesSawtooth got doctor stranged loki style
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glad someone got the reference
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves what do you think of my alicorn oc even though i haven't thought of a backstory yet
0 likesNB SAWTOOTH???? WELCOME TO THE CLUB AYOOOOOOOOOO
1 likeDo why does sugar coat and silver spoon look like eachother
1 likeBut she was still a blank flank lol
0 likesI love the beep noise 😂😂👍😁😁😄
0 likesI figured out what sunset shimmers element is it’s hope
0 likesjust one thing looked over, and the whole theory is cancelled
2 likesi like it
0 likesWow He's nonbinary Even I thought he was Male or something
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yep! i prefer they/them c:
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves that's fine
0 likesAllcorns who will be Twilight successor star like Leicester or Sunset I have no idea please continue your Alacon theories
0 likesShe has a foal sitter before she go to magic school
0 likesI mean
1 likeHe is a changing as well
SPY MODE ACTIVATE
awesome
0 likesBut twilight was still a blank flank that time
0 likesOMG AS SOON AS SAW THIS I CLICKED ON IT AND THEN REALIZED IT WAS 6 MINS AGO IVE NEVER BEEN THIS EARLY
1 likeso sawtooth is king thorax going to find you
0 likes4:17
0 likesIs- is that Gaster??
What happened to the princess's hair, it was pink, it became colored???
1 likeShineing fell in love with chrisolis
0 likesThere gonna MARRY
0 likesFor your question: the things you wanna know
0 likesWOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD ON IS THAT THE NON BINARY FLAG I SEE (I'm nb too)
1 like"Remove the mane six and they aren't needed " TRIGGERED because you were removing the 5 not all six also that would be really sad if shining didn't invite her sister
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yeah i just didn't wanna keep saying "the mane six minus twilight" or "the other five ponies"
1 likeVid Idea: Why the color of horn auoras match cutie marks
0 likesHe's Doomed Doomed doooooooooooooopomed
0 likesI love love! love is so sweet get it:)?
0 likes3:16
1 likenah man i only know ✨lyrabon✨
Hey does anyone remember the "My little pony Friendship is magic IDW comic issue #11 Neigh Anything"?
0 likesI still can't understand the term non binary 😅
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completely fine! ^^ it just means i don't fit on the binary, as in I'm not totally guy or totally girl.
2 likesNon binary means someone who identifies outside of the binary (which is boy and girl)
0 likesTwilight had no cutie mark when she was being foulsiting by cadince
0 likesWhy are celestia and Luna known as princesses rule over equestria but aren't known as queens and there such thing as king and queen in equestria
0 likesWOAH Hey Ok i sEe thAt nOnbInArY pRoFiLe AmAzIng LOvE tO SeE iT👍💛💜☁️🖤
0 likesUh, somepony noticed that ursa miner or ursa major has Twi's cutie mark on his forehead??
0 likesThere is a comic book about it
0 likestwilight didnt have a cutie mark when kaidens was baby siting her
0 likesSawtooth uploaded! Yuhhh bout to watch this
0 likesHuh, didn't know you are nb, anyway, time to watch the video
1 likeI’m yuriana and that was cool
0 likesNot to sound like I’m stupid or anything but wouldn’t have Cadence met Shining through Twilight? Since she foalsitted Twilight when she was a filly?
1 likeWhe are you gonna upload part 2
1 likeI'm curious what do you call a NB mlp fan?
0 likesNon-binary twin
1 likeyou're nonbiney? like you don't have any biney? thats so poggers
0 likesWhat is meaning of VIP?
0 likesbronies: Very Important Pony?...
2:09 "THE princess of Equestria"
0 likesLuna: -_-
👏
0 likesin the flashback Twilight didN'T have her C.M.
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEHrA0v3AU
I Think your more or less right :)
0 likes💛🤍💜🖤 :3
0 likesyour black friend is so smart and so pretty i love is teeths
0 likesI have some thing to say cadence was Baby sing twilight Sparkle I think twilight did not have her cute mark win cadence was Baby sing twilight right?
1 likeWrong because when Cadence was babysitting twilight didn't have her cutie mark
0 likesif Twilight was not pass in her exam and shining armor never marry the princess
0 likesso there alcron child will never boran so the villain would eat the Cristal heart easily and in one episode twilight had stop luna to be nightmare moon and if she never been a princess the place would be of nightmare moon that make clear sense wait but if she fail in her exam she didn't get her cut mark the main 5 never got there cut mark but twilight can study again and do her exam and pass and rainbow dash and fluttershy are friends so that rainbow dash and fluttershy can do agian and rainbow dash try again main 6 get there cut mark so every time line is same !
Cool!
0 likesJust noticed the nb pfp, same bro (nonbinary)
2 likesIt’s just a cartoon it doesn’t matter if anything to you makes sense besides the cartoon is over
0 likesBRUH I FOUND THIS AGAIN
0 likesWell let’s find out what happened let’s find out
0 likesAWWW YOUR NON BINARY PFP IS SO CUTE
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tysmmmmm
1 likeTis true
0 likesSorry for calling you a he/him Sawtooth, I didn't know T_T
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not a problem ^^
1 like@Sawtooth Waves happy pride btw!!
0 likesPls continew pls more
1 likeBye bye sawtooth
1 likeWait,, How is Twilight's cutie mark related to a foalsitter??????
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Please reply
0 likesIf you watch a school wise old or something then close it cozy glow sell all this magical go to a different dimension so that means something
0 likesAnd love ur videos
0 likesThis has nothing to do with today's vid but I was watching mlp s8 e5, grannies gone wild, and 6 min and 21 sec in when the arrive at the hotel there is a male alicorn, pls explain
0 likesI hoped I would be first lol, but seriously so many lives were changed because of the Rainboom!!!
0 likescadence and shining do the love blast sounds very wrong but maybe thats just because im extremely dirty minded.
0 likesThat nameless fella
0 likesOk this is not how this works everything would have gone the same
0 likesMe: looking at his profile pic
0 likesAlso me: wait is he asexual
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it's the nonbinary flag ^^ means i don't fit on either end of the gender spectrum. my pronouns are they/them :3
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh real srry I got some colors mixed up
0 likesNice
2 likesi cant find part 2
0 likesWhat about rainbow dash she made the rainboom then twilight was a young vip then Candace took care of her
0 likesHow did that happen how did she do it.
0 likesOh my God a portal
0 likesBut cadance foalsit her before she even gets her cutie mark and she got his cutie mark during rainboom so this theory doesn't seems right no offense
0 likes4:51 growl or snarl
0 likesSee this -
2 likesRainbow Dash - Hello, Gilda!
Gilda - Dash!
Pinkie Pie - Pinkie!
Rainbow Dash - Lightning Dust!
Lightning dust - Rainbow Dash!
Scootaloo - Scootaloo, my name is scootaloo
Go gilded
0 likesCadance and shing amror is a mom and dad cadance and shing amror have a baby called flurry heart
0 likesI know what happened the princess amore the first ruler of the crystal empire look at cadence name princess me amore ray cadenza AMORE the word amore is the name of the first ruler of the crystal empire i think cadence is related to princess amore it could be possible princess amore is cadence mom.😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯
0 likesYeah finally new videooooo
0 likesAt the age of 14 why am I still looking at MLP $hit
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at the age of 23 im still making it soooo
0 likeshope you enjoy your stay
i- im nb too! thats so cool!
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Same✋
0 likes5:18
1 likeWelp he ded
What will happen next!!!
0 likesIf young six change to equestria ???
0 likesI think your right
0 likesYou never made a part 2 for this;-; at least that I have seen
0 likesFun fact Rainbow Dash is is a pony that created all of that cutie marks
0 likesWhat if it was after season 6
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For example starlight would never be redeemed so that would cancel her defeating chrisalyis
1 likeYeee NB happy pride
1 likeNo no no this is true
0 likesTwilight is cadence sister and shiny armour is Twilight brother??? Did they have a crush on SISTER AND BROTHER
The mines are just the mlp G U L A G
0 likesSW is super smart /)
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read the pinned comment and think again, but thanks! (\
0 likes💜Yeah!
1 likeCan you do a vid on g5...if you knew that will be in September
0 likestwilight had no cutie Mark when cadence babysat her the rainboom gave twilight her cutie mark
0 likesomg yay a new vid
0 likesCool another non-binary thx for supporting
1 likeKing sombre reforming
0 likesIs my favorite youtuber also non-binary!!!!!
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I'm your fav youtuber??? :0 wow thanks!! but yep, i am ^^
1 like@Sawtooth Waves U ARE ME AND MY SISTER'S FAV YOUTUBER TOO !!!!!
0 likesIf grogar is discord ,
0 likesIs discord grogar?
Ahhhhhhhhh what will happen?!!!!!
1 likeReally unrelated but your pfp is the best
0 likesI noticed you had a non-binary flag in the background of your photo..- Are you non-binary?
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yes they are
1 likeTwilight Sparkle maybe adopted because her parents look nothing like her it's red and blue not white and blue to make a purple Mare
0 likesbut twilight didn't have a cutie mark
0 likes5:17 nooo he will die😢
0 likesI so cool finally a NB YouTube that is popular
1 likeJust go in waves
0 likes1:45 Twi was a blank flank with cadence anyways
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In other words this entire video…
0 likesBut i see that you realized, someone commented, and u fixed it in the other video
0 likesChrysalis took over are Questria because shining armour was holding a protection spell the protection spell Christmas easily took over a Questria ha ha ha ha hello lovely black
0 likesI like your profile picture
1 likeI'm a big fan
0 likesWait how come does your old pfp on this video still show up but the comments you make,other video and main home page has your new one-? Is it a new update??
0 likesNice new pfp
1 likeI'm so happy I'm early! Been a fan since I was 6ish . Possibly less. I'm now 10!
0 likesare you a KelvinDaMinion fan? i love him
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no hes not hes too cool for him
0 likesok sorry
1 like@Mangu you literally replied to yourself💀
0 likesWhere are the other seasons?! On Netflix I watched mlp friendship is magic but there is only 1 SEASON!!!
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idk but some season are deleted in February 2022 idk cus my Netflix is now expired maybe a few months ago
0 likesHay question if you already did this don’t worry but If you were a unicorn and you only got Pegasus magic or if you were a Pegasus and you only get unicorn magic same thing with the earth ponies what do you be a pegacorn? Because you have unicorn and Pegasus magic and would that work with Earth ponies if you already did a video about this can somebody send me the link and if not can you make a video about that Sawtooth waves?
0 likesI completely did understand anything that did not make sense at all 🤔🤔🤔🤔🙍🏼♀️
1 likeCOOL
1 likeNameless is right.
0 likesIm NB tooooo thanks for being you
1 likeNON-BINARY!!!!
1 likeHow did that guy guest appear
1 likeMe gustaría saber que es lo que dice
1 likeWhere in the video do they say there non binary
0 likesENBY SAWTOOTH ME TOOO
1 likeWhy does he say syanax like that
0 likesWhy use the nonbinary flag?
0 likesI am a fan of you
0 likesI Twilight didn’t had A cutie mark
0 likesYOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NONBINARY ME TOO :))))
1 likeya she i right and Cadences loves to foallsite they would have met like they did something dose not add up........
0 likesHi love your vids keep it up and dare you to say my name
1 likeIt kinda doesn't make sense because Cadance was Twilight's babysitter before she got her cutie mark
0 likesI'm bi and poly
0 likesI AM NOT EARLY NOOOOOOOOOO BUT I LIV UR VIDS U MAKE ME HAPPY🤗🤗🤗🤗😭
1 likeBut cutie mark🙂
0 likesHey Sawtooth, how are you?
0 likesI would come with you, but I have other things to do. :b
0 likesnepotism at it's finest
0 likesIs sawtooth NB?
0 likesI put my theory on the website I didn’t make a YouTube video on it so it was this exact same thing besides the nameless one being in it did you copy my Theory it’s fine if you did nobody looks at my theories
0 likesYou're nonbinary too???? :0000000
1 likeMy futur of the My Little ponies under what do you feel like or like something is weird something's like I don't know 🤔🤔🤔
0 likesOMG
0 likesYOOO SAWTOOTH PROFILE!!!!! IS SAWTOOTH NONBINARY???
0 likesnad i am soo saddddd :'' '' '' '' '' '
0 likestwilight did not have a cutemark when cadence was her fulsitter soo what?????
0 likesOk good job
0 likesI know wen time trabul happens 1 time they see Zecora and Queen of chaingling's and chingles'es
0 likesYou are wrong princess Cadence and shining armor are a couple
0 likescool
0 likescool
0 likesMy cousin is watching with me and she just asked if you 2 are gay 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesHello fellow enby 😎
1 likeCool
0 likesAlso I hope that all that is spelled right because I’m bad at typing and I don’t know how to spell almost any of these words so I used auto correct OK bye for real now
0 likes#MEGA FAN
0 likesWhy did you created a theory video about a thing that is already explained on comics?
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the comics aren't necessarily canon. the glaring problem with this video lies elsewhere tho, see the pinned comment lol
0 likesCUTEI MARCK
0 likeshi
0 likesMy favorite is rainbow as 10🙃
For no reason
I think the shot with that word is dead
0 likesLuzzel is my mom S name
0 likesGo save the world I mean go see the timeline yeah I am I save the world world there is a maid six so
0 likesWe know of a lot of ponies in the human world, but where is the human version of Sanset Shimmer?
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S🅰️nset Shimmer
0 likes*Sunset
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1 likeOh ok!
Make longer vids or uplode every day
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no
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0 likesAre you a real pony or a changeling
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2 likesHi have a great day 🌈🍓🦄🍩🍉
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0 likesCAdnace and shining met in highschoo....the comic remember? Sonci rainboom had nothing to do with them being a couple..
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the comics may not be canon-
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0 likesCandace and Shining met in highschool, the comic, remember?
The Sonic Rainboom had nothing to do with them being a couple
Also, that's not canon
@•𝐃𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐦• Why not? it doesn't really conflict with anything.
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Mee too fwend
Imma die lmao
Twilight does not have a cutie mark
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0 likesSawtooth, did you leave behind your faith? :( Being ungrateful for who you are is how you came to this point. Turn back to Christ, I say this in love.
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what
1 like@Sawtooth Waves "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Romans 1: 21 kjv
0 likesneither were thankful
Being ungrateful is the root of the identity crisis in the world.
@Amber Slahlize i'm thankful for my identity. i know you're trying to help and i appreciate the thought but i've thought everything through and i'm comfortable. many christians recognize that gender identity isn't black and white, and god is capable of creating so much more
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Yes they are :)
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Become an alicorn Starlight glimmer
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THAT TIMEEEEEEEEEE
yo what's up with that nonbinary flag are you nonbinary what are your pronouns :)!!!
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they them!
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they're nonbinary :)
1 like@lemonqvartz Thankyiu for telling me I'm part of the lgbtq+ .yself I'm bi
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1 likeCan you not see the MLP of Cadence children Hood life I have seen that video delete your video right now
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Candice Di- nvm ill let someone do this 😳😳
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0 likesHello changeling boy toot.
0 likesO fell like if rainbow dach didn't exist twilight life would be bad
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me: 😵
Um fruy haert is in your room
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1 likeHi, guess I am early?
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What wdym💀
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0 likesI wonderd why he won't uplode
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YES HE LOVED IT!
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0 likesBruh this is not how they met. OMG I HAVE NEVER GOT A LIKE I AM SO HAPPY
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How did they meet then?
2 likesWell like idk i forgot ok
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Seriously?? Thats just shallow-
1 likeWhat’s wrong with being nonbinary?
0 likesEw a transphobic bigot
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