Hey i love this theory but one problem. If you look back at s2 e25 during twilughts flash back Twilight had NO CUTIE MARK during her flash back with Cadence

Hey i love this theory but one problem. If you look back at s2 e25 during twilughts flash back Twilight had NO CUTIE MARK during her flash back with Cadence

@Gabrielly Mattos interesting to say, but Twi would've still gotten early access most likely

@Gabrielly Mattos interesting to say, but Twi would've still gotten early access most likely

I know this is over 1 year old, but if you think aborto it, Twilight only could suspect of Chrysalis because she was invited BEFORE the wedding happened. But why was she invited before the wedding in the first place? Well, Twilight was invited to take care of the preparations ALONG with her friends, whose especial talents would help a lot on the preparations.<br>Without the Mane 6 together, Twilight would only be invited to the actual day of the wedding, just like her parents, not leaving her enough time to investigate “Cadance”’s odd behavior, leading to Chrysalis’ plan to succeed anyways.

I know this is over 1 year old, but if you think aborto it, Twilight only could suspect of Chrysalis because she was invited BEFORE the wedding happened. But why was she invited before the wedding in the first place? Well, Twilight was invited to take care of the preparations ALONG with her friends, whose especial talents would help a lot on the preparations.
Without the Mane 6 together, Twilight would only be invited to the actual day of the wedding, just like her parents, not leaving her enough time to investigate “Cadance”’s odd behavior, leading to Chrysalis’ plan to succeed anyways.

wait wouldn't she have a babysitter when she got her cutie mark after she got into the school so maybe its just an error?

wait wouldn't she have a babysitter when she got her cutie mark after she got into the school so maybe its just an error?

EXACTLY
That's why I was so confused about the Chrysalis takeover
But you actually broke Sawtooth and that's-

EXACTLY
That's why I was so confused about the Chrysalis takeover
But you actually broke Sawtooth and that's-

@Adam Wood Studios same it was a year ago

@Adam Wood Studios same it was a year ago

@Sawtooth Waves wait wait wait whatttttt

@Sawtooth Waves wait wait wait whatttttt

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ "You're laughing. He killed Sawtooth and you're laughing."

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ "You're laughing. He killed Sawtooth and you're laughing."

@Sawtooth Waves ‘sawtooth’s life force leaves the chat’ exactly sooo… shinie and cadie would still have interacted casually and cadie is celestia’s “niece” so twilie and cadie would have been forced to act professionally around the school

@Sawtooth Waves ‘sawtooth’s life force leaves the chat’ exactly sooo… shinie and cadie would still have interacted casually and cadie is celestia’s “niece” so twilie and cadie would have been forced to act professionally around the school

@Sawtooth Waves So this may be a bit late but (almost a year). I think you missed another key piece of info though (besides Twilight not having a cutie mark in the flashbacks), she ran with her friends to try and get the elements because of Celestia's instuctions, she may not have ran if she didn't have a reason to (elements), besides that in this timeline Twilight most likely isn't as close with Celestia. So she would have been captured when Cadance and Celestia were, because she stayed and fought. Or since she was in Canterlot when Crystalis impersonated Cadance, Crystalis put her under the same spell as Shining Armour since she also put the bridesmaids under her spell.

I think that Cadence used to foalsit Twilight before she got her cutie mark , she probably advised her parents to join her in princess celestia's school and after she got her cutie mark (twilight) cadence probably started going to her house more often to teach her how to make right use of her magic and maybe thats how Cadence and Shining armor met (this is my theory)😃

@Sawtooth Waves fop👭💖💗💓💜💞💟❤💙💙💚💛🐇🎁🎉🍧🍦🍩🍰🍫🍬🍭🍕🍝🍟🍔🍓🌷🌸🌼🌻

@Sawtooth Waves fop👭💖💗💓💜💞💟❤💙💙💚💛🐇🎁🎉🍧🍦🍩🍰🍫🍬🍭🍕🍝🍟🍔🍓🌷🌸🌼🌻

Don’t listen to him he’s lying to make you guys like him he needs to be reported!

Don’t listen to him he’s lying to make you guys like him he needs to be reported!

I’m just gonna guess cadence foal sitting was a day job for humility from celestia but was called from her job for a bit for princess stuff then when twilight became the protege she needed a proper sitter for when celestia was off in another kingdom or just generally busy and couldn’t take twilight so her old foalsitter would work just fine and then cadence meets shining boom!! Theory saved just a little shuffled

Actually, nevermind. Shining Armor wouldn't just say "my favorite uncle" if he knew that Cadence knew him. Still, I like the idea of Cadance foalsitting for Twilight's Canterlot friends as well, and that this is why they ended up her bridesmaids.

Actually, nevermind. Shining Armor wouldn't just say "my favorite uncle" if he knew that Cadence knew him. Still, I like the idea of Cadance foalsitting for Twilight's Canterlot friends as well, and that this is why they ended up her bridesmaids.

My idea for how Cadence became Twilight's foalsitter: Shining Armor's uncle/Twilight Velvet's brother was a royal guard that served around the time Cadance became a princess, possibly as her personal security detail.

He let it slip that his sister needed someone to foalsit for her filly, and Cadance, not being given many duties yet in her early years as a princess, volunteered to take care of the little Twilight.

She took a liking to foalsitting, so when Twilight Velvet mentioned that some of the other parents at Twilight's school also needed someone to sit in for their foals, she was eager to help them too.

That's also how Cadance met her bridesmaids/Twilight's old Canterlot friends – all of them were ponies that she was formerly foalsitting for.

yes but they would have not the same love for an example well everything would change twillight would be in a boring libary all the time so what did shining and cadence do in that time without the rainboom we dont know

yes but they would have not the same love for an example well everything would change twillight would be in a boring libary all the time so what did shining and cadence do in that time without the rainboom we dont know

@Sawtooth Waves bahwhahhahahahhahah YOUR NOT

@Sawtooth Waves bahwhahhahahahhahah YOUR NOT

Dang- my guy just ruined saetooth's career XD

Dang- my guy just ruined saetooth's career XD

Y'all just destroyed the theory with just a few words lol 🍵

Y'all just destroyed the theory with just a few words lol 🍵

@Sawtooth Waves There's also a MLP comic that throws a wrench in your theory.

@Sawtooth Waves There's also a MLP comic that throws a wrench in your theory.

@Sawtooth Waves <b>sad sawtooth noises</b>

@Sawtooth Waves there was a error too,  twilight was able to use magic before getting her cutiemark (when her memories about cadence and her childhood)  but in the Ep where she got her cutiemark, she wasn't even able to turn a page

@Sawtooth Waves there was a error too,  twilight was able to use magic before getting her cutiemark (when her memories about cadence and her childhood)  but in the Ep where she got her cutiemark, she wasn't even able to turn a page

Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking @Adam Wood Studios. Twilight had Cadence as a foalsitter before the entrance exam because she didn’t have her mark when she started being foalsat. That means that since she got her mark during the entrance exam, Cadence and Shining should’ve already known each other beforehand.

Late-

And there’s something else, if you look in the comics of MLP, Shining Amour actually tells the story of how they met, Shining and Cadence met in high school.

Late-

And there’s something else, if you look in the comics of MLP, Shining Amour actually tells the story of how they met, Shining and Cadence met in high school.

@Sawtooth Waves sawtooth <b>b r e a t h e</b>

@Sawtooth Waves sawtooth *b r e a t h e*

Yes, so the real prinses cadens is still traped in the dungen remember Twilight saved cadens can you  please make a video about the proper theatre please

Yes, so the real prinses cadens is still traped in the dungen remember Twilight saved cadens can you  please make a video about the proper theatre please

@Sawtooth Waves also in the comics it shows that Cadence and Shining meet in high school

@Sawtooth Waves also in the comics it shows that Cadence and Shining meet in high school

Hmm do you realize the sonic rainboom is important think about it ONE PONY HELP 5 PONIES THATS IMPOSIBLE right i think Rainbow dash ment to become an you know A Alicorn those questions in my mind never have an answer🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Hmm do you realize the sonic rainboom is important think about it ONE PONY HELP 5 PONIES THATS IMPOSIBLE right i think Rainbow dash ment to become an you know A Alicorn those questions in my mind never have an answer🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

@Sawtooth Waves yeah ill believe anything you say...

Until now- xD

@Sawtooth Waves yeah ill believe anything you say...

Until now- xD

Yes so the original prinses kadens should still be traped in the dungen because   <br>of Twilight's gut chrisalis sent  her into the dungen to so easily esceped

Yes so the original prinses kadens should still be traped in the dungen because
of Twilight's gut chrisalis sent  her into the dungen to so easily esceped

but it could be that they did just forgot the cutie mark

but it could be that they did just forgot the cutie mark

@Sawtooth Waves PLEASE DONT DELETE YOUR CHANNEL

@Sawtooth Waves PLEASE DONT DELETE YOUR CHANNEL

but starlight still did a effect of their relationship though like twilight said " not only your ruining our friendship your ruining others too " little guess cadence and shinning armor , celestia and luna friendship and many others even when she didnt have her cutie mark when cadence foal sit her the rainboom did brought everyone together

@Sawtooth Waves but remember? the wedding wasn’t chrysalis’s only attempt to rule. in to where and back again she was successful until starlight came and without the mane six starlight wouldn’t have been there  to stop chrysalis

@Sawtooth Waves but remember? the wedding wasn’t chrysalis’s only attempt to rule. in to where and back again she was successful until starlight came and without the mane six starlight wouldn’t have been there  to stop chrysalis

May someone please explain what’s going on here, because of the details being all over the place I’m having a hard time to understand of what’s going on

May someone please explain what’s going on here, because of the details being all over the place I’m having a hard time to understand of what’s going on

When one animation error messes up a whole theory 😭

When one animation error messes up a whole theory 😭

Probably just um a the creators forgetting it

Probably just um a the creators forgetting it

Your right but what if it was before the rain boom happend

Your right but what if it was before the rain boom happend

Maybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into ponies futures after thier birth

Maybe Celestia already looked into Twilight's future just like sawtooth suggested in 1 of his videos about pony's names Celestia looking into ponies futures after thier birth

@Sawtooth Waves in the alternet time line twilight wasnt there to save cadence from the crystal cave place in the beginning ..... yeah it was cadence overall but as you mentiond IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO twilight was able to free cadence and she was able to do the love thing

You destroyed this whole mans video with one comment

You destroyed this whole mans video with one comment

@Sawtooth Waves Reminds me of that one time I thought I got an A on a test but I got a B

@Sawtooth Waves Reminds me of that one time I thought I got an A on a test but I got a B

It's ok sawtooth you've made mistakes before remember when you thought discord was starswirl also omg I did not see twilight did not have a cutie mark !!! This changes everything

It's ok sawtooth you've made mistakes before remember when you thought discord was starswirl also omg I did not see twilight did not have a cutie mark !!! This changes everything

@Sawtooth Waves what does this mean? Why is this so ominous? What does egg on my face mean?

@Sawtooth Waves what does this mean? Why is this so ominous? What does egg on my face mean?

Eugene I'm not gonna tell you my last name

@Bright New Future oh..... right..... heheh... got mistaken😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@Bright New Future oh..... right..... heheh... got mistaken😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@RebeccX yeah I mean there's no in show evidence that cadance can see the future but celestia can. Remember the crystal empire episode part 1 in that celestia said that Twilight is ready and that this IS a test! I don't remember exact line but yeah

@RebeccX yeah I mean there's no in show evidence that cadance can see the future but celestia can. Remember the crystal empire episode part 1 in that celestia said that Twilight is ready and that this IS a test! I don't remember exact line but yeah

@Aarti Kumari Sure thing. That's why I said you can see her statement in 2 ways ;) Of course what you said is more likely, I was only trying to say that there could be a possibility that Cadence knew ;) Even if she didn't, what is very likely, Twilight was still special to her no matter what :)

@RebeccX Imagine you are wonderfully talented at something. Someone younger than you admires you and thinks that they are not good enough. So of course you'll compliment. That's what Cadance did.

@RebeccX Imagine you are wonderfully talented at something. Someone younger than you admires you and thinks that they are not good enough. So of course you'll compliment. That's what Cadance did.

Yes because she didn’t know she was going to be the element of magic super cutie mark couldn’t have happened then

Yes because she didn’t know she was going to be the element of magic super cutie mark couldn’t have happened then

@Đình Oánh Nguyễn they were joking, they’re not actually going to delete their channel 😂

@Đình Oánh Nguyễn they were joking, they’re not actually going to delete their channel 😂

This was my first thought and I was gonna look after finishing the video 😂

This was my first thought and I was gonna look after finishing the video 😂

@Sawtooth Waves the being a student of celestia gave the power to free  cadence

@Sawtooth Waves the being a student of celestia gave the power to free  cadence

OH SHOOT,hmmmmm,alright there's gotta be anotehr reason why they didn't fall in love,this is hard to think about,I wonder what made them fall in love with each other in the first place,maybe if we focus on maybe how they fell in love with each other we could figure it out

Edit:also to the person who pointed this out apparently Twilight is Twilughts now?(no offense I just wanna tell you there's a typo)

@Sawtooth Waves OK, maybe Celestia had her eye on Twilight and sent Cadance to "push her in the right direction" but when she failed the entrance exam Celestia gave up on her, pulling Cadance away and that left Shining Armor and Cadance as a "lost love" situation since I'm sure they're love took a while to grow. Idk 🤷♂

@Sawtooth Waves
Next week will be about how the first theory fell apart and the second theory (which you will need to develop) is better.
Is preventing the sonic rainboom connected to preventing the Royal Wedding, and if so, how? Did Twilight becoming Celestia's personal student bring Shining Armor to the Royal Guard rather than becoming a sentry in a distant outpost?
Would his friendship with the pony who became Celestia's adopted niece remain a fond memory if he never met her again?
Or was Chrysalis after something else entirely. Her big complaint wasn't that her army lost Canterlot in Season 2, but that her entire hive was taken from her when they were converted to Friendship.

That's a good point. Cadence was Twilight's foal sitter back home before she went to the school of magic.<br>That's why Twilight didn't recognize the name Cadence took on after connecting with Celestia.

That's a good point. Cadence was Twilight's foal sitter back home before she went to the school of magic.
That's why Twilight didn't recognize the name Cadence took on after connecting with Celestia.

Very true, sawtooth I can’t believe I forgot that but still good theory

Very true, sawtooth I can’t believe I forgot that but still good theory

Yeah that's what I was thinking about. But I do believe the cadence and shining armor started dating when Cadence was Twilights foalsitter.

Yeah that's what I was thinking about. But I do believe the cadence and shining armor started dating when Cadence was Twilights foalsitter.

@Sawtooth Waves hehehe I think that this video will be popular for not being flawless.

@Sawtooth Waves hehehe I think that this video will be popular for not being flawless.

@Sawtooth Waves please!!!! Don't delete your channel!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 mlp seasons are over already. I really want to watch your vids, at least  to make me less sad about mlp ending. Theories make me wonder and more things to see about you. I can't find anyone else with such a bond of MLP like you, I guess. All I'm saying is, everypony who are watching this or subscribing your channel, never want for you to go. There are alot of mysteries in the show that I don't notice of and need you to solve it, maybe. MLP gone, you tooooooo!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 and I'm 15 years old using my dad's phone, I wanted to subscribe you, but I can't( don't need to bother about this information)

I noticed that too! Pretty much immediately-

I noticed that too! Pretty much immediately-

Solution: Flashbacks are memories and memories are not perfect, so it is a case of “unreliable narrator”.

Solution: Flashbacks are memories and memories are not perfect, so it is a case of “unreliable narrator”.

eh it couldve been a error in the artists part.

eh it couldve been a error in the artists part.

Hmm think about this a different way. When Twilight said in the flashback that Cadence is a princess and she is just a "plain ol' unicorn" and Cadence said that Twilight is "anything BUT a plain old unicorn". You can see this in two ways. Either Cadence just means that Twilight is special to her personally OR she knew something! Think about it, isn't it a little bit fishy that Celestia let Cadence foalsit a random filly? If we learned something from the Rainboom story it is quite rare in mlp that anything happens just by mere chance. I think Celestia knew what would become of Twilight even though she didn't have her cutie mark yet and didn't know that it would look like the element of magic. Or maybe she did? I don't know, we shouldn't underestimate Celestia xD It's also quite interesting that the magic school even let Twilight take the test at all, because it's a school for gifted unicorns. Sure Twilight read a lot about magic, but the only thing we saw her doing was turning a page with her magic before she took the test and that's basic magic for young unicorns, no special talent there. Not until the test that is. So it was probably Celestia who inivited Twilight to take the test, because she knew something. When Twilight's cutie mark appeared she didn't seem surprised at all about how it looks. I mean she should be surprised that it looked so much like the element of magic, but she wasn't, because she always knew. Just my thinking ;)

@Sawtooth Waves It means Cadance was Twilight's foal sitter way back. I have a theory remember the bad to good changeling thing? well if the mane 6 didn't come together it means the future events that took place such as changeling reformation wouldn't had happened as Starlight was bad so she didn't help Trixie didn't become nice as Starlight wasn't there Discord was still spreading chaos and thorax may have been nice but it was Starlight that suggested to share love otherwise Thorax would have been weakened. JUST A THEORY

@Musical Crafts right yes I knew that. Still getting used to it

@Musical Crafts right yes I knew that. Still getting used to it

Yeah, that doesn't make much sense and her getting Cadance after her CM is much more logical.

Yeah, that doesn't make much sense and her getting Cadance after her CM is much more logical.

Exactly I was about the comment the same thing

Exactly I was about the comment the same thing

@Sawtooth Waves did you not think this all the way

@Sawtooth Waves did you not think this all the way

@Sawtooth Waves I was about to comment that but i saw the pinned comment lol but i think you Can figure it out if you can't figure it out NO ONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT

@Sawtooth Waves I was about to comment that but i saw the pinned comment lol but i think you Can figure it out if you can't figure it out NO ONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT

@Spritezz I didn’t think any one could do it

@Spritezz I didn’t think any one could do it

Celestia had a vision of the future where Twilight become a Princess, therefore she was VIP before she even met Celestia. With future changed, past Celestia wouldn't get a vision, therefore no Cadance foal-sitter.

Celestia had a vision of the future where Twilight become a Princess, therefore she was VIP before she even met Celestia. With future changed, past Celestia wouldn't get a vision, therefore no Cadance foal-sitter.

@Sawtooth Waves 🙋🏻♀ I am a big fan of you

@Sawtooth Waves 🙋🏻♀ I am a big fan of you

@Sawtooth Waves She is right. Before the exam she had no cutie mark in the flashback.... So the time line must be different.

@Sawtooth Waves She is right. Before the exam she had no cutie mark in the flashback.... So the time line must be different.

@Loki is best anti-hero they*<br>Sawtooth is non-binary

@Loki is best anti-hero they*
Sawtooth is non-binary

@Adam Wood Studios They're*<br>Sawtooth is non-binary

@Adam Wood Studios They're*
Sawtooth is non-binary

@Sawtooth Waves But wait. Who was staying where and in what time period? So Twilight was living with her parents before her cutie mark lead to her acceptance as Celestia's protege. Where was Shining Armor staying? Was he already away on military duties or maybe at training camp or something? If he were still at home, he wouldn't be in the royal guard, and would probably have plenty of free time to watch his little sister when his parents needed a babysitter. I think Shining had left for military training sometime before Twilights cutie mark appeared, hence why Cadence would be watching pre-cutie mark Twilight. Shining can't be around when he's away at boot camp or even stationed in the castle somewhere. He'd be sleeping where all the other guard ponies sleep. I'm thinking that Twilight would have had no business being anywhere near her brother until she was accepted to the magic school. And since the magic school is somewhere where the princess teaches, there are probably guards in charge of security, especially around the library. And since she was Celestia's direct pupil, I think she probably got to stay in the castle with Celestia so she could keep close eye on this new student of hers with amazing potential. Royal castle stay means you're bound to meet royalty, as well as guards. I also wonder if Celestia talked to Cadence about keeping a special eye on this new pupil around the castle. Shining would have been around as part of the guard and would have often dropped in on his sister from time to time when he could. Cadence is there when Shing drops by or vice versa and boom! They get to know each other personally through Twilight, though they probably don't start dating until Twilight gets her own place somewhere else in Canterlot, at least not openly.<br>Does my idea make sense? Did I successfully salvage your theory? Or do you not have a clue as to what I just said? Please let me know!

@Sawtooth Waves But wait. Who was staying where and in what time period? So Twilight was living with her parents before her cutie mark lead to her acceptance as Celestia's protege. Where was Shining Armor staying? Was he already away on military duties or maybe at training camp or something? If he were still at home, he wouldn't be in the royal guard, and would probably have plenty of free time to watch his little sister when his parents needed a babysitter. I think Shining had left for military training sometime before Twilights cutie mark appeared, hence why Cadence would be watching pre-cutie mark Twilight. Shining can't be around when he's away at boot camp or even stationed in the castle somewhere. He'd be sleeping where all the other guard ponies sleep. I'm thinking that Twilight would have had no business being anywhere near her brother until she was accepted to the magic school. And since the magic school is somewhere where the princess teaches, there are probably guards in charge of security, especially around the library. And since she was Celestia's direct pupil, I think she probably got to stay in the castle with Celestia so she could keep close eye on this new student of hers with amazing potential. Royal castle stay means you're bound to meet royalty, as well as guards. I also wonder if Celestia talked to Cadence about keeping a special eye on this new pupil around the castle. Shining would have been around as part of the guard and would have often dropped in on his sister from time to time when he could. Cadence is there when Shing drops by or vice versa and boom! They get to know each other personally through Twilight, though they probably don't start dating until Twilight gets her own place somewhere else in Canterlot, at least not openly.
Does my idea make sense? Did I successfully salvage your theory? Or do you not have a clue as to what I just said? Please let me know!

Which means, they would've still been together!

Which means, they would've still been together!

@Jean-Philippe Paradis (Hexstream) omg XD lmao

@Jean-Philippe Paradis (Hexstream) omg XD lmao

@Sawtooth Waves maybe without the main six a different villain got power, but The Queen was able to overpower that villain and take over. I mean what happened to the villains before and after each villain???

@Sawtooth Waves maybe without the main six a different villain got power, but The Queen was able to overpower that villain and take over. I mean what happened to the villains before and after each villain???

No way .. after all discord is star swirl ;)

Kiding yours the best

No way .. after all discord is star swirl ;)

Kiding yours the best

@Sawtooth Waves perhaps Shinning Armour got close to Celestia first. He tells her that they need a sitter when he is a royal guard and Celestia recommended Cadence. Perhaps after Twilight got her cutie mark, Cadence taught her some spells and Twilight started to like her. Then Twilight always told Shinning how good Cadence is. After some time they fall in love?

So without Twilight telling Shinning how good Cadence is, they may never meet. Cuz I think Shinning will be too busy in his duties and won’t meet the Cadence Twilight loves after getting her cutie mark. (Idk is this brought up yet)

@Sawtooth Waves

Your theory can still work just in a different way

The rainboom=destiny
Cadence and shining=related to Twilight witch density was related to the rainboom
No rainboom=no destiny
Candice and shinings wedding=there destiny
So no rainboom no wedding

This makes no sense ;v;

@Sawtooth Waves Alas, confirmation bias is one of the perils of making theory videos (trust me, I know). I think the best way of getting around it is bringing in fact-checkers to examine it before public release, though it kinda looks like you already had the equivalent of that and it evidently didn't help.   Ó.Ò

 Don't worry, you can impliment corrections into the part-2 at least.
brohoof and hugs

@Sawtooth Waves Alas, confirmation bias is one of the perils of making theory videos (trust me, I know). I think the best way of getting around it is bringing in fact-checkers to examine it before public release, though it kinda looks like you already had the equivalent of that and it evidently didn't help.   Ó.Ò

 Don't worry, you can impliment corrections into the part-2 at least.
*brohoof and hugs*

@Sawtooth Waves are you ever going to make a theory about zecora's home land,it's tree of harmony,the other three across the globe,and how the replacing of the equestrian one by the treehouse will affect the balence of the world?

@Sawtooth Waves are you ever going to make a theory about zecora's home land,it's tree of harmony,the other three across the globe,and how the replacing of the equestrian one by the treehouse will affect the balence of the world?

@Sawtooth Waves  noooo don't delete it!!!

@Sawtooth Waves  noooo don't delete it!!!

Also, this is making me want to make some artwork for the different versions of the Mane Six, from each of Starlight's alternate timelines, except for the last one.

Also, this is making me want to make some artwork for the different versions of the Mane Six, from each of Starlight's alternate timelines, except for the last one.

True, BUT, Something ELSE could have happened that caused Chrysalis's plan to work, like say maybe Twilight NEVER LEFT Canterlot and therefore Shining Armour would be able to tell Twilight face to face that he was getting married to her foalsitter. She then would have rushed over to wherever Cadence lives to congratulate her, and she might have gotten there before Chrysalis did which would have gotten rid of the suspicions she had in the normal timeline, causing her to not spy on Cadence, and to also not pay as much attention to her weird behavior, which would stop Chrysalis from banishing her to the caves beneath Canterlot, keeping Twilight from discovering the real Cadence, keeping Cadence from escaping, causing Chrysalis to get married to Shining Armour, and the rest is pretty straight forward from here. Chrysalis reveals herself, she defeats Celestia, Twilight probably flees to try to find the real Cadence, Chrysalis takes over, Zecora gathers some ponies from Ponyville, they flee into the Everfree Forest and Chrysalis starts trying to find their hideout. This also might explain why Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie acted the way they did towards Twilight and Spike. When they fled with Zecora, they may have run into their world's Twilight. Twilight must have joined them, and fled with them. They must have thought Twilight was a changeling because they knew Twilight, but the Twilight from their world was still a unicorn, and the Twilight from our world is an alicorn, so they didn't recognize her. They thought that Spike was a changeling because in their world, Spike didn't exist, so they didn't know who he was, and in their world, if you didn't know who somebody was, they were probably a Changeling, and Spike was with the Twilight from our world, and since they already thought that our Twilight was a changeling, from their perspective, I think it was pretty safe for them to say that he was a changeling too.

You're right she doesn't have her cutie mark I never realized that although I never really paid attention to it until now so if twilight had nothing to do with it then how did they meet it could have been that it was just destined to happen think about it if they never meant flurry heart would have never been born and even then if she was I don't think she would have been alicorn (because cadence is an alicorn because princess Celestia made her one and shining armor as an alicorn sister this explains flurry heart)

Whoo this will definitely be in his video I hope my comment is in your comment which is in his video that’s kind of greedy but whatever hope your comment is in the video

Whoo this will definitely be in his video I hope my comment is in your comment which is in his video that’s kind of greedy but whatever hope your comment is in the video

@Sawtooth Waves if Shining was part of the Royal Guard back then, then possibly. Celestia saw potential in Twilight because she saw the same potential in Shining. She could've also gotten word on Twilight's keen mind and magical aptitude from Cadence.

@Sawtooth Waves if Shining was part of the Royal Guard back then, then possibly. Celestia saw potential in Twilight because she saw the same potential in Shining. She could've also gotten word on Twilight's keen mind and magical aptitude from Cadence.

@Cupid Animations "foalsitter", not "foulsitter". ;)

@Cupid Animations "foalsitter", not "foulsitter". ;)

So I haven't read through the entire thread here but your theory could still hold some weight, even up to there was still a royal wedding- but twilight had more of a role in the change than anticipated. Maybe not passing her entrance exam led to celest not teaching her, leading to her remaining just like moon dancer, so caught up in her studies and her want to prove herself again that she totally misses shinings wedding. I guess there are kinda limitless little alterations that could've led to the change, but its fun to speculate!

Also hell yea nb represent!

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Aww, don't you just hate when you find out a theory you felt so proud of had a flawed premise? I hate that.<br>Now, in Sawtooth's honor, we must try to find a way to make his theory work!

Aww, don't you just hate when you find out a theory you felt so proud of had a flawed premise? I hate that.
Now, in Sawtooth's honor, we must try to find a way to make his theory work!

@Sawtooth Waves <br>Maybe like, Shining was in the guard training earlier and maybe was very promising as the leader so Cadence kinda saw that and decided to know the promising pony more, saw Twilight and decided to babysit them because maybe Cadence saw promising things from Twinkle Sprinkle over here-

@Sawtooth Waves
Maybe like, Shining was in the guard training earlier and maybe was very promising as the leader so Cadence kinda saw that and decided to know the promising pony more, saw Twilight and decided to babysit them because maybe Cadence saw promising things from Twinkle Sprinkle over here-

Other theory channels: oh no there's a flaw in my theory, better bury it for good<br>Chad Sawtooth: I'm pinning my shame for all the world to see

Other theory channels: oh no there's a flaw in my theory, better bury it for good
Chad Sawtooth: I'm pinning my shame for all the world to see

Maybe it was an oversight on the animator's part. In one of the flashbacks we see Twilight in a royal bedroom unpacking her things. It looked like she was moving in. She must have been Celestia's student at that time.

Maybe it was an oversight on the animator's part. In one of the flashbacks we see Twilight in a royal bedroom unpacking her things. It looked like she was moving in. She must have been Celestia's student at that time.

@Hiccy69  I agree i was trying to say this but didnt know how to describe this while making sense. Then i saw your comment

@Hiccy69  I agree i was trying to say this but didnt know how to describe this while making sense. Then i saw your comment

Possible solution: (IDK if this has been brought up yet, but) My assumption was always that Cadance did foalsitting for a bunch of families, Twilight's included; it was only after Twilight got her cutie mark that Cadance saw the family more often outside of this, which is when she encountered Shining Armor (who wouldn't have been around when Cadance was foalsitting Twilight anyway, since then he could've just looked after her himself). That would explain Cadance foalsitting Twilight before she got her cutie mark and why Shining Armor would only hang out with her after the Rainboom.

@Sawtooth Waves I agree because in the flashback twilight didnt have her cutie mark but what if  cadence and twilight met because someone else changed the timeline someone we havent considered?

@Sawtooth Waves I agree because in the flashback twilight didnt have her cutie mark but what if  cadence and twilight met because someone else changed the timeline someone we havent considered?

@Sawtooth Waves the theroy is still posible. Becuse what if after failing the exam Twilight falls into a sad state. So much show Shinning returns home not knowing what happend, yells at Cadence thinking she made Twilight sad. But after he finds out the truth, Cadence is heartbroken and doesn't give him the chance to make amends.

uhh- I guess we need a new plot for him changing into gen 5 right?

uhh- I guess we need a new plot for him changing into gen 5 right?

someone has noticed!!<br>I can't believe that I could see a day when sawtooth is wrong😶

someone has noticed!!
I can't believe that I could see a day when sawtooth is wrong😶

@Sawtooth Waves oh don’t sulk. Every one can make mistakes like how I am one hour late to see this lovely video. And I think that the video is great 😊

@Sawtooth Waves oh don’t sulk. Every one can make mistakes like how I am one hour late to see this lovely video. And I think that the video is great 😊

@Sawtooth Waves you needa be starting to think on theories and stuff, this is HARSH

@Sawtooth Waves you needa be starting to think on theories and stuff, this is HARSH

𝙋𝙖𝙩𝙩𝙮 𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙚𝙞𝙧𝙙𝙤 ★ !!

@Sawtooth Waves oh my god! I can’t believe that this whole theory was ruined by a simple mistake. And I can tell how disappointed you are after working so hard on this. But hey, we can still turn this around. There are other things that you are right about. I appreciate your work even though there are some mistakes. Please don’t delete the channel. DON’T YOU DARE DELETE THE CHANNEL. I love it too much to let it go just like that.

@Sawtooth Waves I have a theory that might help you and I'm going to bring up a question that has been bothering me for a while.

When Twilight recieves the letter from that Shining Armour and Cadence was getting married, it seemed like she didn't know that he was dating someone in the first place. If Twilight and Shining Armour were that close, how come Shining didn't tell Twilight that he was dating Cadence? Like did his parents even know he was dating? It brings up a question to as how LONG they've been together. If it was anything more than 1 year, wouldn't the family been told they were dating? It boggles my mind that the last memory of Cadence from Twilight was her as a foalsitter and nothing more "recent" if Shining did tell his family about her.

The only conclusions I can come up with are:
1. It was very confidential and they couldn't tell anyone and/or parents only (Cause Cadence is royalty and Shining is the Head of the Royal Guards which makes their positions very vulnerable and couldn't tell anyone until the Wedding (end of season 2 episodes) and this would mean they started dating in adulthood, not in their teenage years before their careers. Otherwise, surely the family would've known they were dating to some degree.
2. They met recently before the Wedding and suddenly got married.
And may I point out the wedding preparation took place in a matter of days to prepare, unlike Frankie's and Matilda's wedding which doesn't seemed rushed (except for the wrong dates on the invitations incident XD )

So if we're going by the standard of they met recently prior to the wedding episode, then it brings up the question to as why, where and when. It could be because since Twilight was going to Magic school during the day, there was no need for a foulsitter that much. Cadence most likely became out-of-touch with the family in general, not just Shining Armour or Twilight. It makes sense that Cadence and Shining would bump into each other on occasion for her foulsitting job and therefore making Twilight the mutual connection. But If it was strictly for her job and creating small talk whenever Cadence would run into Shining, it does make sense if she fell out-of-touch to do other things when Cadence left her job as Twilight's foalsitter. Probably to become a full fledged princess and had more intense training. Years go by and Cadence was called to Canterlot to be told about the Crystal Empire and thus be on official business (which probably took days or even months to discuss and prepare considering the Crystal Empire is a delicate and complicated matter). Somewhere along the way Shining and Cadence saw each other and rekindled their relationship, and spent time after duty hours. Thus the wedding happened and then the Crystal Empire events happened - a very quick outcome but romance love can happen in this way.

And now that I think about it, regardless of which "duration of dating" outcome, if we go back to alternative outcome where Twilight didn't get her cutie mark, theres 3 options I can think of that might've happened in that timeline:
1. Cadence still would've left her job as Twilights foalsitter to become a full fledged princess and therefore becoming out-of-touch. While Twilight looks for some other means to get her cutie mark somewhere, somehow.
2. Twilight perhaps gave up on magic. I'm not saying she never got her cutie mark, but what if she did, but at doing something different or even ended up somewhere else
3. If she never gave up on magic, could she have trained somewhere far away to awaken herself and if those abilities had awoken, she probably couldn't control them properly without specific training at the time. And I believe without Celestia, her magic would've been out of control and had a very tragic outcome (if you get what I mean).
We never get to see Twilight in any other timelines so there could be a double of Twilight somewhere (if not going for the tragic outcome) but she wouldn't have been in Canterlot or Ponyville at all, or even somewhere remotely near Canterlot that would've taken a few days to arrive for the Wedding to happen.

And now referring to Crystalis alternative outcome, is it safe to say that without Twilight's presence in Canterlot or Ponyville, she wouldn't have attended the wedding. And therefore Crystalis's plans succeeded and her invasion began.

@Sawtooth Waves you didn't think about that did you no part 2 now 😂

@Sawtooth Waves you didn't think about that did you no part 2 now 😂

Maybe it was before she got enrolled in magic school?

Maybe it was before she got enrolled in magic school?

@Sawtooth Waves could you do a video about the Storm King

@Sawtooth Waves could you do a video about the Storm King

@Sawtooth Waves Just update the description or delete the video.

@Sawtooth Waves Just update the description or delete the video.

@Sawtooth WavesWhat if Cadence, there Princess of Love and maybe daughter of a love potion bond, was foalsitting multiple foals to help her recover and Twilight was just one of them?

@Sawtooth WavesWhat if Cadence, there Princess of Love and maybe daughter of a love potion bond, was foalsitting multiple foals to help her recover and Twilight was just one of them?

Yeah, aside from Adam’s observation, even without the foalsitting, Shining had always had a crush on Cadance and made that known at their school. Cadance found it charming and through a series of events she ends up developing at the very least an interest in him if not feelings for him also. She would just need a way to work around the rest of the student body to get to him since she’s always in the spotlight as a princess. She wouldn’t have necessarily needed the Twilight connection (this background is from the comics and I am WAY oversimplifying it).

If this isn't featured in the next video, I'm done 😂

If this isn't featured in the next video, I'm done 😂

@Sawtooth Waves the legend is broken guys

Time to create a new Sawtooth.

@Sawtooth Waves the legend is broken guys

Time to create a new Sawtooth.

@Sawtooth Waves  What! U can’t delete ur channel. Anything but that!

@Sawtooth Waves  What! U can’t delete ur channel. Anything but that!

@OrkTv how I didn't notice such a glaring issue during the entire production of this, will forever evade me. if you need me I'll be off the grid, reclusing in the woods and living off the land

@OrkTv how I didn't notice such a glaring issue during the entire production of this, will forever evade me. if you need me I'll be off the grid, reclusing in the woods and living off the land

@Sawtooth Waves  Let’s fix the issue. Cadence foalsat Twilight before getting her cutie mark, yes. But after Twilight started attending Celestia’s school, she would have been away from home more often and Cadence would’ve foalsat her more. Princess Cadence and Shining Armor still would’ve known each other, but not well enough to fall in love and get married.

@Sawtooth Waves <b>pat's back</b> it's ok 😔

@Sawtooth Waves How could you miss this? The episode features numerous screenshots of filly Twilight with Cadance, without cutie mark.

@Sawtooth Waves How could you miss this? The episode features numerous screenshots of filly Twilight with Cadance, without cutie mark.

@Sawtooth Waves well, let's just say that Celestia wasn't even aware of a pony who can literally travel through time and change the whole history as she knows it. Because of Starlight's intervention, Celestia was forced to search for another filly that is capable enough to be the fourth princess. Just don't give up dude. You are the good side of the MLP community, and we couldn't bear to lose you, given how rotten and degenerate the community is right now.

None of the main six have their cutemarks also they all got them because of the sonic rain boom sorry if i spell wrong just had a test killed too much brain cells

None of the main six have their cutemarks also they all got them because of the sonic rain boom sorry if i spell wrong just had a test killed too much brain cells

@Adam Wood Studios They have a Discord, but you have to be a Patreon member to access it.

@Adam Wood Studios They have a Discord, but you have to be a Patreon member to access it.

@Hiccy69 thank you but this would mean twi was on celestia's radar before the rainboom. possible i suppose? heck i was so proud of this theory too

@Hiccy69 thank you but this would mean twi was on celestia's radar before the rainboom. possible i suppose? heck i was so proud of this theory too

@Sawtooth Waves Wait, think about it. Cadence didn't have royal duties and her taking the responsibility of watching a foal was pure chance of meeting Shining Armor. If she didn't baby sit Twilight, then Chrysalis would be able to take over because her and Shining Armor never met

Great Job @Adam Wood Studios , you pulled a flurry heart and broke Sawtooth.

Great Job @Adam Wood Studios , you pulled a flurry heart and broke Sawtooth.

Um well i think this theory is now broken. Sorry Sawtooth. =(

Um well i think this theory is now broken. Sorry Sawtooth. =(

Wow I didn’t notice that your right but still what happened to Cadence and shining armor when Chrysalis took over? What were they doing and where were they at?

Wow I didn’t notice that your right but still what happened to Cadence and shining armor when Chrysalis took over? What were they doing and where were they at?

@Sawtooth Waves yo, just to make you feel better, i have another theory for you. Because of the lack of cutie mark, Celestia eventually recalled her niece from being Twilight's foalsitter because she only seek those who deserve to be the fourth princess of Equestria and have tasked Cadance to foalsitted the destined child until their adultness. Because Twilight wasn't the destined child, Cadance and Shining never had a close relationship and thus, they never married. Hopefully this will help you😉

@GVD guys i dont think hes gonna actually do it

@GVD guys i dont think hes gonna actually do it

@Sawtooth Waves Pinkie Pie (eg)- What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Sawtooth Waves Pinkie Pie (eg)- What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Sawtooth Waves we seem similar

I say i- every 2 seconds
Also are you  o k a y 👀

@Sawtooth Waves we seem similar

*I say i- every 2 seconds*
Also *are you  o k a y* 👀

@Sawtooth Waves oh no guys i broke Sawtooth

@Sawtooth Waves oh no guys i broke Sawtooth

egg. on my face. the entire premise of the video- oh my god I'm reeling, how could this happen, the room is spinning-

egg. on my face. the entire premise of the video- oh my god I'm reeling, how could this happen, the room is spinning-

@Sawtooth Waves do you have discord i love to talk to you about that time line though

@Sawtooth Waves do you have discord i love to talk to you about that time line though


I’m so happy you feel comfortable to come out as non binary 💛🤍💜🖤 as a fellow lgbt+ person just know I am so proud of u <3<br>I

I’m so happy you feel comfortable to come out as non binary 💛🤍💜🖤 as a fellow lgbt+ person just know I am so proud of u <3
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I’m gay how did I miss this information being said 😂

@Remi Remi they change the name about two years ago

@Molasse I discovered their channel a couple hours ago, so I don’t know anything about what your talking about/when

@Remi Remi Very recently cuz brony  is a male my little pony fan

@giargue oh it must’ve been really recent because
Their old name was “the BRONY notion” and a brony  is a MALE fan of mlp

@giargue oh it must’ve been really recent because
Their old name was “the BRONY notion” and a brony  is a *MALE* fan of mlp

@Jillian Irwin that is what I ‘ve been asking


Sawtooth is nonbinary? Cool I used to be nonbinary, then I became fully trans lol. I’m glad you feel comfortable enough with your audience to tell us! Good look ❤

@Bug I was told the exact opposite<br>So I am now confused.

@Bug I was told the exact opposite
So I am now confused.

@Blaize Gottman no,they could have no gender

@Blaize Gottman no,they could have no gender

@~KittyCathXp~ so then nobody has a gender after all

@~KittyCathXp~ so then nobody has a gender after all

@Blaize Gottman because gender's not really a biological thing or like something physical(?)

@Blaize Gottman because gender's not really a biological thing or like something physical(?)

@Blaize Gottman being genderfluid means feeling like a woman one moment, a man the next, and in some cases neither. Most people identify as just one gender their entire life, while genderfluid people tend to shift around

@Julia Fulcher it's all Good I was trying to figure out why I said that then I forgot why I said it in the first place I hate that so much

@Julia Fulcher it's all Good I was trying to figure out why I said that then I forgot why I said it in the first place I hate that so much

@Blaize Gottman took you that long to realize?
lol i meant that in a jokeish tone btw

@Blaize Gottman took you that long to realize?
lol _i meant that in a jokeish tone btw_

@Julia Fulcher now I realized I don't why I said what is I'm so dumb

@Julia Fulcher now I realized I don't why I said what is I'm so dumb

@Blaize Gottman do i really have to type it out for you

@Blaize Gottman do i really have to type it out for you

@Blaize Gottman Well everyone’s different and also the way people dress doesn’t have to be the same as their gender it’s just what they feel comfortable wearing :)

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ when you said erase the anymore part

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ when you said erase the anymore part

@Blaize Gottman can you elaborate on what you mean?

@Blaize Gottman can you elaborate on what you mean?

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ uh what do you mean

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ uh what do you mean

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟  now it's More confusing of what to refer someone as

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟  now it's More confusing of what to refer someone as

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer if you say so

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer if you say so

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm 27 ok

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm 27 ok

@Blaize Gottman Correct, though it would be more respectful to erase the "anymore" when you talk to an genderless person. I understand why you said! I'm not mad btw! I just want to inform you.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer not a real word

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer not a real word

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer funny thing is that Donald Trump supported the veterans also lesbophobia isn't a real word

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer funny thing is that Donald Trump supported the veterans also lesbophobia isn't a real word

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer they did what

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer they did what

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ so you're not male or female anymore

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ so you're not male or female anymore

@Blaize Gottman well it's a lack of gender. Don't make the mistake of thinking it's the same as Non-binary binary! Non-binary is when you don't fit into the binary gender. It's an umbrella term and an identity in of it itself.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer or bing it

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer or bing it

@Blaize Gottman man town is an expression

@Blaize Gottman man town is an expression

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer so what do I refer sawtooth as

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer so what do I refer sawtooth as

@Blaize Gottman SHAKFBD you are not 27 buddy you are like a preteen

@Blaize Gottman SHAKFBD you are not 27 buddy you are like a preteen

@Amber Slahlize so why don't some people identify as male or female

@Amber Slahlize so why don't some people identify as male or female

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer also I'm 27 ok

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer also I'm 27 ok

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what the hell is man town

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what the hell is man town

@• Generosity • so why do non binary people cross dress just curious

@• Generosity • so why do non binary people cross dress just curious

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ what is agender I'm confused

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ what is agender I'm confused

@Blaize Gottman Maybe you’re thinking of sex vs gender? Sex is usually the body you’re born in, and the chromosomes you’re born with, making you male or female (and sometimes intersex). However, Gender, which has nothing to do with the sex you’re born as, is how you internally perceive yourself and want to be perceived. You can be born with female or male chromosomes, but sometimes that really has no affect on what gender you may decide you identify as.  (aka girl, boy, neither, and many other identities). As an example, you can be assigned female at birth, but realize during puberty that you’re a boy. Most people get surgeries and take hormones to change their body to physically match that of the other sex. To me, the most interesting part is that studies have shown the brains of trans people are physically identical to the brains of the gender they identify as rather than the brains of the sex they were assigned at birth. I hope that makes sense! if you’ve never heard of this stuff it can be admittedly pretty confusing in the beginning!

🌸-ᴍɪꜱᴛʏ ᴄʟᴏᴜᴅ-🌸

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Ohhh cool

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Ohhh cool

@Britt Sijm pride flag in their pfp in pride month

@Britt Sijm pride flag in their pfp in pride month

And being the princess of friendship makes it hard for twilight and her friends to spend some quality time with each other. Because she is princess there are many things that she has to do Wich she sometimes rather not to.

And being the leader of the changeling makes it hard for thorax to spend some quality time with anyone.

And being the leader of the changeling makes it hard for thorax to spend some quality time with anyone.

Because they are the rulers of the Chrystal empire there are many things they have to do wich they sometimes rather not to.

Because they are the rulers of the Chrystal empire there are many things they have to do wich they sometimes rather not to.

@Nova  before sawtooth told everyone they are non binary?

@Nova  before sawtooth told everyone they are non binary?

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer ohhhh that's fair :) they're one of my favourite youtubers and I've watched them for years. I just missed May-Now so I'm rewatching it all :)

@Nova their pfp was the nonbinary pride flag for pride month

@Nova their pfp was the nonbinary pride flag for pride month

Lol im not non binary or trans or agender or anything, im just female

Lol im not non binary or trans or agender or anything, im just female

@RoobzToonz yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that <3

@RoobzToonz yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that <3

@• Generosity • not fully male or female. Demigirl, demiboy, genderfluid, etc are also nonbinary

@• Generosity • not fully male or female. Demigirl, demiboy, genderfluid, etc are also nonbinary

@Joe Oldenburg oh also can I just say that you clearly have no idea what you are on about?<br>Nonbinary is literally a gender lol. Agender is when somebody has no gender.

@Joe Oldenburg oh also can I just say that you clearly have no idea what you are on about?
Nonbinary is literally a gender lol. Agender is when somebody has no gender.

@Joe Oldenburg you are either 6 or a trump supporter.

Look up bill nyes gender identity video where he explains it in a way you could understand.

@Joe Oldenburg you are either 6 or a trump supporter.

Look up bill nyes gender identity video where he explains it in a way you could understand.

@☆StarGem22☆ I subscribed to you because of your name

@☆StarGem22☆ I subscribed to you because of your name

Your trans! That’s so cool! I’m genderfluid!!

Your trans! That’s so cool! I’m genderfluid!!

@Jpxk._ they*

They had the nonbinary flag in their PFP for pride month.

Also the fact they always call themself a they in their videos.

@Jpxk._ they*

They had the nonbinary flag in their PFP for pride month.

Also the fact they always call themself a they in their videos.

@Blaize Gottman ur right. All these idiots think they dont have a gender- btw sawtooth just lost a subscriber :/

@Blaize Gottman ur right. All these idiots think they dont have a gender- btw sawtooth just lost a subscriber :/

@Vanessa you are born a sex. This sex is either male female or other (intersex) your gender is how you feel in your brain. Your gender can be what you want it to be and can change accordingly

@Vanessa im actually aro ace and agender now

@Vanessa im actually aro ace and agender now

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I have a question, so if your born a gender arent you technically just told that like your told a girl or boy doesnt mean you actually are?idk if I'm confusing I'm just a kid sorry

@Dani cool :D I'm just bisexual and fond you very cool 😁

@Dani cool :D I'm just bisexual and fond you very cool 😁

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ the person is trans your non binary? Cool I'm bisexual 😂 I find this funny

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ the person is trans your non binary? Cool I'm bisexual 😂 I find this funny

@Laser beast Yay and nice 1 subscriber lmao

@Laser beast Yay and nice 1 subscriber lmao

@Taku ew to you too. Nice like to dislike ratio on your channel too, hard man.

@Taku ew to you too. Nice like to dislike ratio on your channel too, hard man.

@Taku if you are going to be a transphobe why are you on a trans persons channel lol?

@Taku if you are going to be a transphobe why are you on a trans persons channel lol?

@Taku this is a problem I see often on LGBT channels. People watch their videos and shit but then when someone points out the fact they are LGBT the “hard man omega chads” in the comments are saying “ew”

If you have a problem then why are you staying here? Fuck off if you don’t like the person making the content.

@Margaret Bush then they need to do a really quick and easy google search.

@Margaret Bush then they need to do a really quick and easy google search.

@Rainbow Dragon non binary means you don’t identify as a girl or boy

@Rainbow Dragon non binary means you don’t identify as a girl or boy

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer yup, also thanks for correcting me for saying he instead of they, I also might have said this sentence wrong

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer yup, also thanks for correcting me for saying he instead of they, I also might have said this sentence wrong

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you replied to me soemthing about changelings not really having genders so tahdt why they choose a changeling

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you replied to me soemthing about changelings not really having genders so tahdt why they choose a changeling

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer mm yeah that's a good thought

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer mm yeah that's a good thought

@Nandhini KJ yes, it’s the nonbinary flag. Also they call themself they/them. Because they are nonbinary. So don’t call sawtooth a he

@Nandhini KJ yes, it’s the nonbinary flag. Also they call themself they/them. Because they are nonbinary. So don’t call sawtooth a he

@Nandhini KJ behind their character in their profile picture

@Nandhini KJ behind their character in their profile picture

@Nandhini KJ it is a flag that shows someone’s identity, gay, lesbian, transgender. You know you could really google it

@Nandhini KJ it is a flag that shows someone’s identity, gay, lesbian, transgender. You know you could really google it

@Lucy Wood they* also changelings don’t appear to have a gender, maybe that’s why they chose a changeling to be their oc?

@Lucy Wood they* also changelings don’t appear to have a gender, maybe that’s why they chose a changeling to be their oc?

@Nandhini KJ pride flag in their* profile picture.

@Nandhini KJ pride flag in their* profile picture.

@Moadot720 well technically he is a changeling so he could be a female

@Moadot720 well technically he is a changeling so he could be a female

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I’m non binary as well!

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I’m non binary as well!

@Lasse Grotkjær also their pride flag, in their profile picture...

@Lasse Grotkjær also their pride flag, in their profile picture...

Not saying i dont belive you or anything, but when did he say that?

Not saying i dont belive you or anything, but when did he say that?

@Jillian Irwin I know they* are because of their profile picture.

@Jillian Irwin I know they* are because of their profile picture.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Thanks

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Thanks

That explains why they choose a changling

That explains why they choose a changling

I'm just pansexual

(NO PANSEXUAL AND BISEXUAL IS NOT THE SAME I SWEAR)

I'm just pansexual

(NO PANSEXUAL AND BISEXUAL IS NOT THE SAME I SWEAR)

dang this is a long name but ok hey how are you ok

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you`re right, I have no experience with anyone who isn`t either male or female so I didn`t think of it

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer you`re right, I have no experience with anyone who isn`t either male or female so I didn`t think of it

@Jemimah Rajakumar it’s ok, we don’t actually know their pronouns yet but it’s just better to stay safe fufiebfkfjdb

@Jemimah Rajakumar it’s ok, we don’t actually know their pronouns yet but it’s just better to stay safe fufiebfkfjdb

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer oops, sorry

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer oops, sorry

took me so long to realise ur talking abt his profile pic and not the video

took me so long to realise ur talking abt his profile pic and not the video

OH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT,interesting fact to know that Sawtooth is non binary,for the whole time I've been referring them as he,his,him pronounces I am so sorry

@Iris Huisman I mix up gender and identity, because they are the same things.

If they were not, transgenders would not be saying "I identify as..."

Ergo, "gender is a social construct" is really "identity is a social construct".

As for the scientist, who is he to make such a claim? You are allowed to criticize scientists, (it's wouldn't be science if you didn't).

"young kids generally don't care what gender someone is"

You've never heard kids say "ew boys" or "ew girls"?
How young are these kids that you're describing?

"parents don't seem to realize..."

The reason children interact with each other the way they do, isn't because of the parents, like nobody told me to like girl toys, or boy toys. I liked both, but I generally enjoyed my girl toys a little more.
My brother was the exact opposite, nobody told him that he had to play separate from his little sister, he just developed this "ew girls" thing on his own.

He didn't like me playing with his toys, and my parents who never encouraged it let him do that.
In other words, I was behaving feminine without any involvement, and my brother was acting masculine, also without any involvement.
This is what people don't realize about gender, it's there, already being expressed through behavior.
Dare I say, I see the contradiction even from someone who passes, they and their friends don't even realize it.
Like there is a trans woman who thinks shes a guy, and I can still see her behaving feminine, even after all the hormones and surgery.

As for kids liking the same things, I don't see the point behind this.

But watch this video sometime, this is a woman who has dealt with real transgenders for a long time, she is also left-leaning so you'll feel more comfortable hearing what she has to say about transgenderism, she is very polite and kind, and she feels for the children who are suffering with their identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbxIFC0Q2o

This wont be confirmation bias, and yet it wont be differing from many things you already believe.

@Amber Slahlize I did put spaces, but apparently my tablet fucked that up. Look, if I had the energy to argue right now, I would, but I can already tell you're set in your beliefs and I am not in the mood to get worked up over this.
I would like to point out two things though.
One, you mixed up gender and identity, which are two different things. I said that gender is a social construct (which I literally heard from a scientist btw), not identity.
Two, of course kids are gonna realize that things are different eventually. They're gonna realize that some of them have different genitals. Maybe some of them will realize that one kid has a behavioral abnormality that will later be diagnosed as autism or adhd. Maybe they'll see eachother's birthmarks. Maybe one of them has some trouble with some toys because they're left-handed. What I meant is that young kids generally don't care what gender someone is, and the only reason they'll most likely eventually end up segregating is both because of the fact that parents don't seem to realize that two people of the opposite sex can also be just friends and thus they'll probably start feeling awkward and stop hanging out with the opposite sex, and the fact that people that are more similar to eachother are in most cases more likely to get along. An autistic kid will probably have less issues hanging out with other autistic kids than neurotypical ones. Kids that like the same football team are more likely to get along than kids who like opposing teams. Of course there is such a thing as opposites attract, but that tends to happen later on in life.

@Amber Slahlize I did put spaces, but apparently my tablet fucked that up. Look, if I had the energy to argue right now, I would, but I can already tell you're set in your beliefs and I am not in the mood to get worked up over this.
I would like to point out two things though.
One, you mixed up gender and identity, which are two different things. I said that _gender_ is a social construct (which I literally heard from a scientist btw), not identity.
Two, of course kids are gonna realize that things are different eventually. They're gonna realize that some of them have different genitals. Maybe some of them will realize that one kid has a behavioral abnormality that will later be diagnosed as autism or adhd. Maybe they'll see eachother's birthmarks. Maybe one of them has some trouble with some toys because they're left-handed. What I meant is that young kids generally don't care what gender someone is, and the only reason they'll most likely eventually end up segregating is both because of the fact that parents don't seem to realize that two people of the opposite sex can also be just friends and thus they'll probably start feeling awkward and stop hanging out with the opposite sex, and the fact that people that are more similar to eachother are in most cases more likely to get along. An autistic kid will probably have less issues hanging out with other autistic kids than neurotypical ones. Kids that like the same football team are more likely to get along than kids who like opposing teams. Of course there is such a thing as opposites attract, but that tends to happen later on in life.

@Iris Huisman Can you put spaces between your paragraphs?
Also, I'm reading a wall of nothing.

You don't know what anything is of anything, that's all I can say right now.

You've been lied to about what identity is, I strongly suggest you introduce more critical thinking on this subject - too much of it I see has relied on the word of others, rather than relying on the truth.

Like children not born with an identity? And identity is a social construct? Who told you that? You have no ground to assert such a notion.
Not knowing what it means to be a man or woman doesn't mean that they aren't a man or woman - they will behave as man and women even before their brains are fully developed (because gender isn't their brain), so I'm guessing you never babysat children, if you leave them to their own devices, some of them will start to discover that one kid has something different from the other, but more then that, but more then that, male babies will act like males, and female babies will act like females.
Gender isn't something they learned (it's who they are).
The fact of gender dysphoria should be what makes you question the notion of gender is a social construct, because of how nobody taught them what gender dysphoria is, much less what it means to be who you are.

So in short, yes, transgenderism is a real word, just like transgender is also a real word, they were to different things, but are ultimately referring to the same thing, only transgenderism is more specific to the ideology of how to solve gender dysphoria, and to differ from the definition of sex and gender, it does that so that it can oppose reality in every way possible, and that's why we've got trans men in female sports now, beating all the natural born women, while nobody lifts a finger to it.

You would be hard pressed to find someone who could admit that transitioning does not cure their dysphoria, it only allows them to cope with their dysphoria.
How do I know? Because if they reverted back, the dysphoria would come back, ergo, they are not really being cured.

This is transgenderism, and it's an ideology, a belief system, you don't even know that it's a belief system.

As for what is obvious, you're setting up a perfect example of what I mean by "noticing the obvious", people inherently know what men and women look like, so if your friend has to correct them, in reality, they are being contradicted, not corrected, because what they are being told, is that they can't trust their eyes.
And that's the heart of transgenderism, the belief that you can't trust your own eyes.
You might as well admit, this is an entirely emotionally based disfunction.
If they knew what it meant to be the gender they were assigned at birth, they might feel more comfortable in their own skin. And that's why I feel pity for the majority of them.

And I have been plenty educated on the matter sweety, that's why I'm here differing on so much from what you're saying.
I imagine it makes you feel very uncomfortable, but if that's what it takes to make people see the truth, (even the uncomfortable truth), I'm going to get dirty and fight for their souls, but you know that old saying, you can take a donkey to water, but you can't make them drink.

So to if nobody wants to help themselves, I'm not going to try and force them.

@Iris Huisman Can you put spaces between your paragraphs?
Also, I'm reading a wall of nothing.

You don't know what anything is of anything, that's all I can say right now.

You've been lied to about what identity is, I strongly suggest you introduce more critical thinking on this subject - too much of it I see has relied on the word of others, rather than relying on the truth.

Like children not born with an identity? And identity is a social construct? Who told you that? You have no ground to assert such a notion.
Not knowing what it means to be a man or woman doesn't mean that they aren't a man or woman - they will behave as man and women even before their brains are fully developed (because gender isn't their brain), so I'm guessing you never babysat children, if you leave them to their own devices, some of them will start to discover that one kid has something different from the other, but more then that, but more then that, male babies will act like males, and female babies will act like females.
Gender isn't something they learned (it's who they are).
The fact of gender dysphoria should be what makes you question the notion of gender is a social construct, because of how nobody taught them what gender dysphoria is, much less what it means to be who you are.

So in short, yes, transgenderism is a real word, just like transgender is also a real word, they were to different things, but are ultimately referring to the same thing, only transgenderism is more specific to the ideology of how to solve gender dysphoria, and to differ from the definition of sex and gender, it does that so that it can oppose reality in every way possible, and that's why we've got trans men in female sports now, beating all the natural born women, while nobody lifts a finger to it.

You would be hard pressed to find someone who could admit that transitioning does not cure their dysphoria, it only allows them to *cope* with their dysphoria.
How do I know? Because if they reverted back, the dysphoria would come back, ergo, they are not really being cured.

This is transgenderism, and it's an ideology, a belief system, you don't even know that it's a belief system.

As for what is obvious, you're setting up a perfect example of what I mean by "noticing the obvious", people inherently know what men and women look like, so if your friend has to correct them, in reality, they are being contradicted, not corrected, because what they are being told, is that they can't trust their eyes.
And that's the heart of transgenderism, the belief that you can't trust your own eyes.
You might as well admit, this is an entirely emotionally based disfunction.
If they knew what it meant to be the gender they were assigned at birth, they might feel more comfortable in their own skin. And that's why I feel pity for the majority of them.

And I have been plenty educated on the matter sweety, that's why I'm here differing on so much from what you're saying.
I imagine it makes you feel very uncomfortable, but if that's what it takes to make people see the truth, (even the uncomfortable truth), I'm going to get dirty and fight for their souls, but you know that old saying, you can take a donkey to water, but you can't make them drink.

So to if nobody wants to help themselves, I'm not going to try and force them.

@Amber Slahlize one, I didn't come up with that analogy, someone else (who I'm pretty sure was actually trans) did. It's just a simple analogy to explain to someone who doesn't quite understand what it means in terms that they'll more easily understand. I once heard the analogy 'straight people are standing on one leg, gay people are standing on the other leg, bisexual people are standing on both legs, pansexual people are lying on the floor, and asexual people are levitating.' Also an oversimplified analogy, but effective to explain to people what the difference is.
Two, of course the analogy doesn't touch on identity, it's an analogy. I'm loosely comparing it to something else that has a somewhat similar feeling in order to help an uninformed person understand. If I were to go deeper into the subject of identity, it would become more complicated and thus harder to understand.
Three, you're clearly uninformed about what being transgender really is. You said '-because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.' First off, 'transgenderism' isn't even a real word, or if it is it's never used by actual trans people, the correct term in this context is 'gender dysphoria', and secondly, your point holds no ground. Of course there's no evidence for gender dysphoria being present at birth, because babies that young don't have a concept of gender yet. Gender is literally a social construct, and is forced upon people from a very young age. Very young kids only really start to realize that kids of the opposite sex are different from them when they're told they are. If you were to put a bunch of androgynously dressed kids of both sexes with similar toys together and just told them to play nice and nothing about what sex/gender the other kids are, they won't treat any of the other kids differently purely based on what's in their pants. Gender dysphoria only starts to become present when kids realize that kids of the other sex are treated differently than kids of their own sex, and their brain starts telling them that they're supposed to be treated like the other sex. There was even a study done at some point that proved that trans people's brains are more similar to the general brains of the gender they identify as, rather than the gender they were assigned at birth. So yes, while technically gender dysphoria doesn't show up until later on in life, the only reason it shows up at all is because the child is treated as a different gender than their brain thinks they are.
Four, you saying that wanting to identify as something is just 'denying the obvious' clearly shows that you don't know how all of this works. Speaking as a friend of a trans person, I can tell you right now that being clear in what you want to identify as can be very helpful in calming dysphoria. My friend is a recently out trans girl, but still has a pretty masculine look because she lived 17 years of her life as a boy. If people (irl too, mind you) were to address her as a guy, obviously she'd want to correct them. Trans people obviously don't go around shouting 'I'M (insert gender identity here)!', because nobody does that. They only make it clear what their gender identity is when they're either just coming out or answering/correcting someone.

Honestly, I could go on, but I'm tired and my eyes are now unfocusing on their own, so I'm gonna stop it here. I feel like you need to do some more research before you start trying to correct people.
And one more time, it was a simplified analogy, not a 100% accurate explanation.

@Amber Slahlize one, I didn't come up with that analogy, someone else (who I'm pretty sure was actually trans) did. It's just a simple analogy to explain to someone who doesn't quite understand what it means in terms that they'll more easily understand. I once heard the analogy 'straight people are standing on one leg, gay people are standing on the other leg, bisexual people are standing on both legs, pansexual people are lying on the floor, and asexual people are levitating.' Also an oversimplified analogy, but effective to explain to people what the difference is.
Two, of course the analogy doesn't touch on identity, it's an _analogy._ I'm loosely comparing it to something else that has a somewhat similar feeling in order to help an uninformed person understand. If I were to go deeper into the subject of identity, it would become more complicated and thus harder to understand.
Three, you're clearly uninformed about what being transgender really is. You said '-because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.' First off, 'transgenderism' isn't even a real word, or if it is it's never used by actual trans people, the correct term in this context is 'gender dysphoria', and secondly, your point holds no ground. Of course there's no evidence for gender dysphoria being present at birth, because babies that young don't have a concept of gender yet. Gender is literally a social construct, and is forced upon people from a very young age. Very young kids only really start to realize that kids of the opposite sex are different from them when they're told they are. If you were to put a bunch of androgynously dressed kids of both sexes with similar toys together and just told them to play nice and nothing about what sex/gender the other kids are, they won't treat any of the other kids differently purely based on what's in their pants. Gender dysphoria only starts to become present when kids realize that kids of the other sex are treated differently than kids of their own sex, and their brain starts telling them that they're supposed to be treated like the other sex. There was even a study done at some point that proved that trans people's brains are more similar to the general brains of the gender they identify as, rather than the gender they were assigned at birth. So yes, while technically gender dysphoria doesn't show up until later on in life, the only reason it shows up at all is because the child is treated as a different gender than their brain thinks they are.
Four, you saying that wanting to identify as something is just 'denying the obvious' clearly shows that you don't know how all of this works. Speaking as a friend of a trans person, I can tell you right now that being clear in what you want to identify as can be very helpful in calming dysphoria. My friend is a recently out trans girl, but still has a pretty masculine look because she lived 17 years of her life as a boy. If people (irl too, mind you) were to address her as a guy, obviously she'd want to correct them. Trans people obviously don't go around shouting 'I'M (insert gender identity here)!', because nobody does that. They only make it clear what their gender identity is when they're either just coming out or answering/correcting someone.

Honestly, I could go on, but I'm tired and my eyes are now unfocusing on their own, so I'm gonna stop it here. I feel like you need to do some more research before you start trying to correct people.
And one more time, _it was a simplified analogy, not a 100% accurate explanation._

@Aarti Kumari can you please read the thread. They have a enby pride flag as their literal profile pic

@Aarti Kumari can you please read the thread. They have a enby pride flag as their literal profile pic

@Sakisasvictorianmask trans means not identifying with your birth gender, and non-binary folks also transition, not always, but some of them do get top sugery, or take hormones!
Quote from the definition of Oxford Languages:
Trans:
"denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
It can also either be short for Transgender, which is why we say "trans folk" or "trans people" because they are transgender, and saying "transitioning people" would be weird haha
Also quote from transequality.org
:
"Transgender people are people whose gender identity is different from the gender they were thought to be at birth. “Trans” is often used as shorthand for transgender. When we're born, a doctor usually says that we're male or female based on what our bodies look like."
Hope this helps ^^

@Amber Slahlize transgenderism isn’t a problem. If you think it is you should go back to the early 2000s and leave the channel. You should probably mix in with your own crowd of corrupt discord users and 60 percent of redditors

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Oh okay

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer Oh okay

@Hiccy69 Yes, that's correct. It's a different symptom of the same problem.

@Hiccy69 Yes, that's correct. It's a different symptom of the same problem.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm just going to share this for reference: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transgender

https://www.dictionary.com/e/nonbinary-meaning/

It's for whatchamacallit people, but the root problem is the same.

@Amber Slahlize if you have a problem with the trans spectrum watch bill nyes video on it on Netflix, he does a great job of explaining.

If not. Piss off and leave the channel, they clearly don’t want you here

@Amber Slahlize uh oh somebody is cisgender and needs to learn how to sympathise and use google

@Amber Slahlize uh oh somebody is cisgender and needs to learn how to sympathise and use google

@Rainbow Dragon don’t listen to amber she is not doing any research and basically invalidating trans people.

@Rainbow Dragon don’t listen to amber she is not doing any research and basically invalidating trans people.

@Hiccy69 the definition of transgender is someone who does not identify as their birth gender, sawtooth does not identify as their birth gender being nonbinary

@Sakisasvictorianmask Trans is short for transgender though, or transgenderism.

@Sakisasvictorianmask Trans is short for transgender though, or transgenderism.

@Iris Huisman Normal people don't identify, they merely don't refute who they are. Saying you identify as (insert blank) is just a form of denial of the obvious, otherwise, you wouldn't feel the need to announce your identity.
The exception to this rule is online because nobody can see your face, behavior, and body language.

Your analogy is only right in that people at one point thought they could correct left-handed behavior, but that analogy doesn't touch on identity at all, and it's always obvious when someone is left-handed, but not when someone is trans, (I get the point of your analogy though), you're trying to say that people opposing transgenderism is the same as people opposing left-handed people at one time because you believe that transgenderism is something you are born with, but there is no evidence to prove this.

Your analogy has holes in it, and it's my hope that you can understand that by having them pointed out to you that you can better understand how deep conversation like this goes, and thus form healthy dialogue.

The subject of identity is a very deep one in this day in age because so many people are suffering deeply because questions they asked were not answered for them (dare I say) that if people had such questions answered well, this identity crisis this generation is feeling would not be happening.
This is me expressing my belief in how much I believe how deep this issue goes.

@Blaize Gottman Correct, everyone has a gender, but some people don't think gender applies to them (no matter what people around them say) because it's an entirely emotionally based self-diagnosis, and you're right, it doesn't make much sense at all, but then it also deeply describes how lost our society is when it feels the need to question themselves. It's a deep rooted sign of disbelief in themselves.

@Rainbow Dragon It means you don't think you are either male or female.

@Rainbow Dragon It means you don't think you are either male or female.

@Jenkins Unless you don't get the surgery and other stuff. Then you just have genderdisphoria.

@Jenkins Unless you don't get the surgery and other stuff. Then you just have genderdisphoria.

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ Hi non-binary, I'm female.

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ Hi non-binary, I'm female.

No, the other character thinks he doesn't have gender, Sawtooth never corrected him on his own gender. Where do people get these ideas from?

No, the other character thinks he doesn't have gender, Sawtooth never corrected him on his own gender. Where do people get these ideas from?

@Sapphire Star then were are on the same page. Because I don’t know where he said it either.

@Sapphire Star then were are on the same page. Because I don’t know where he said it either.

@Moadot720 I also thought that he is a male but apparently he is not.

@Moadot720 I also thought that he is a male but apparently he is not.

@Sakisasvictorianmask its like cielnova said lol

@Sakisasvictorianmask its like cielnova said lol

@Sakisasvictorianmask  I had a pet cat who was born as a female but as she grew up she became a father cat

it's name was Sandy

@Sakisasvictorianmask  I had a pet cat who was born as a female but as she grew up she became a father cat

it's name was Sandy

I’m confused, when does sawtooth say he’s non binary? I seriously don’t see where

I’m confused, when does sawtooth say he’s non binary? I seriously don’t see where

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer how? I search for it online, and it says that non-binary is not the same with transgender. Since transgender means unsure of your birth gender and decided to change it completely while non-binary means a person doesn't have or doesn't want to be identified as one gender or another, no matter what gender they were born with.

@Hiccy69 it’s in the transgender spectrum.

@Hiccy69 it’s in the transgender spectrum.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i have another question for you. How exactly does non-binary be included into the LGBTQ? Isn't LGBTQ or sexual orientation referred to those who do it physically? Non-binary (the way i see it) is connected to the mind of the person and how they identified themselves. Therefore, it is psycological, not physical.

@Moadot720 and you are clearly very young, gender does not equal what you look or sound like. It’s what you feel like. They deserve respect and if you are not going to give them that you should probably leave the channel

But that doesn’t make sense! He’s clearly male!

But that doesn’t make sense! He’s clearly male!

@Sakisasvictorianmask according to merriam Webster

Definition of transgender

: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth

Also, many nonbinary people experience dysphoria. I personally tried socially transitioning to female and still felt dysphoric, when i started to go by nonbinary that feeling lessened to the point that i rarely feel dysphoric anymore.

@Cielnova No, trans is literally short for "transitioning". Trans is not an umbrella term, and it's incredibly disrespectful to use it as such. Trans people go through a LOT to achieve what they feel is their true gender identity. "Non-binary" is a term by people who think being female or male is linked to stereotypes and don't have dysphoria.<br>Also, intersex has NOTHING to do with trans and it's weird somebody here brought that up.

@Cielnova No, trans is literally short for "transitioning". Trans is not an umbrella term, and it's incredibly disrespectful to use it as such. Trans people go through a LOT to achieve what they feel is their true gender identity. "Non-binary" is a term by people who think being female or male is linked to stereotypes and don't have dysphoria.
Also, intersex has NOTHING to do with trans and it's weird somebody here brought that up.

@Sakisasvictorianmask being trans means not identifying as your biological sex. Therefore, nonbinary folk are trans

@Sakisasvictorianmask being trans means not identifying as your biological sex. Therefore, nonbinary folk are trans

@Jenkins Uh, no? Non-binary and trans mean pretty much two opposite things. Non-binary means outside of male or female, trans is "transitioning" from one to the other. Trans people identify as man or woman, so within the binary.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I can't take credit for this analogy, but I can't remember where I first saw it ˆˆ'

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I can't take credit for this analogy, but I can't remember where I first saw it ˆˆ'

I used to think I was non bi before finding out I was trans!

I used to think I was non bi before finding out I was trans!

@Iris Huisman that’s actually a really good way of putting it thank you

@Iris Huisman that’s actually a really good way of putting it thank you

@Blaize Gottman think of it this way. Most people are right-handed, but left-handed people also exist. Now replace right-handed with cis (identifying as the gender you were assigned at birth), and left-handed with any other gender identity. If someone is trans, they're basically being forced to grow up as a gender they don't identify as, similar to how only a couple decades ago left-handed children were still forced to do things with their right hand. Since most of the world population is right-handed, left-handed people tend to fly under the radar at first. <br>In this analogy, cis people would be right-handed, trans people would be left-handed, non-binary people wouldn't have a preference, and genderfluid (male one moment, female the next) people would be ambidextrous.

@Blaize Gottman think of it this way. Most people are right-handed, but left-handed people also exist. Now replace right-handed with cis (identifying as the gender you were assigned at birth), and left-handed with any other gender identity. If someone is trans, they're basically being forced to grow up as a gender they don't identify as, similar to how only a couple decades ago left-handed children were still forced to do things with their right hand. Since most of the world population is right-handed, left-handed people tend to fly under the radar at first.
In this analogy, cis people would be right-handed, trans people would be left-handed, non-binary people wouldn't have a preference, and genderfluid (male one moment, female the next) people would be ambidextrous.

@Blaize Gottman it was a joke, I take it you are quite young

@Blaize Gottman it was a joke, I take it you are quite young

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what's man town a place with only males

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer what's man town a place with only males

@Blaize Gottman basically do your own research

@Blaize Gottman basically do your own research

@Blaize Gottman because gender is a spectrum. The most common chromosomes are XX and XY however, some people have chromosomes in a different order or a different number, this leads to intersex people. People with different genitals.
Some nonbinary people have regular chromosomes and view them-self as a different gender, I was nonbinary as I was transitioning from female to male. But some people are nonbinary permanently.

It’s hard to explain to a cisgender person, but some people feel wrong in their birth body, making them transgender.

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer OK then and I'm Male that's it

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer OK then and I'm Male that's it

@• Generosity •  but how does that make sense

@• Generosity •  but how does that make sense

@Blaize Gottman Yeah non binary means that you don’t identify as female or male like I said-

@Blaize Gottman Yeah non binary means that you don’t identify as female or male like I said-

@Blaize Gottman I went from female to male

@Blaize Gottman I went from female to male

@Blaize Gottman some people would prefer to be called they them, and would prefer to dress androgynously

@Blaize Gottman some people would prefer to be called they them, and would prefer to dress androgynously

@• Generosity • but everyone has a gender

@• Generosity • but everyone has a gender

@Rainbow Dragon It means that you don’t identify as a female or male

@Rainbow Dragon It means that you don’t identify as a female or male

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i see! and same, actually. i just didn't want people to be misled

@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer i see! and same, actually. i just didn't want people to be misled

@Jenkins yeah I know that, I just personally used being nonbinary as a middle man to become a boy. I know that nonbinary is an umbrella term

@Jenkins yeah I know that, I just personally used being nonbinary as a middle man to become a boy. I know that nonbinary is an umbrella term

fully trans? you don't need to be binary to be trans. everyone under the non-binary spectrum is trans:]

fully trans? you don't need to be binary to be trans. everyone under the non-binary spectrum is trans:]

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I'm also Non-binary

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ I'm also Non-binary