Sacrifices to the Church of Nintendo

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@Sakésaurus
Pretty sure the lawsuit thing was just a cover by the Project M devs because they didn't want it competing with Icons.... which then proceeded to crash and burn.

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How many times will this notion go on?

1.- Melee tournaments and the fanbase divide the attention towards Ultimate, which is their "latest" Smash that is still being sold. Nintendo literally has nothing to gain from Melee being around and do not want to remotely support them due to various reasons (using copied versions of the game), hacking the game with Slippy, their constant non-esports and immature actions (Smash tourneys being considered smelly, throwing crabs at people, etc.) and again, no profit incentive.
Nintendo literally has no reason to remotely care about Melee and its audience.

2.- Fangames literally take from the original source for free. They are not just going to hire every impressive game team because as a company, they have to discuss and approve every project, so just saying "Yeah, champ. Let's rerelease Super Mario 64 with mods together!" isn't going to happen if the board does not think SM64 or any other fan game project won't sell or if it interrupts the success of other products.

3.- Mother 3 will never be localized because of the touchy elements ( drug scene comes to mind) that are in there. Unless it is getting remade, the original GBA game will never, ever be localized.
If censored or altered significally, will it even be worth it anymore? Just use an Emulator.

4.- Mario 3D All-Stars IS the definitive versions of those games officially. It does not matter how good the Spyro or Crash remakes are since they are NOT Mario.
Mario's games are more valuable in the market than most of Sony's mascots combined. The Prime minister dressed up as Mario, the Kansai airport has Mario welcome you to Japan, Mario games STOMP most if not all of the mascots from other companies.
There is no reason for Nintendo to suddenly remake games that are already valuable and "good" as they are.


Also the video calling whoever they disagree in infantile manchildren is pity.
Anyone with basic study of marketing can recognize the reason behind what nintendo does.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto fanboy detected

@Luis Alfonso Pinto ...and yet Nintendo is the only major company who repeatedly does this.

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@Luis Alfonso Pinto Nobody is asking Nintendo to go out of their way to support Melee. We're asking that they quit trying to censor/delete it. Get the got damn boot out your mouth.

Yoooo it's the funny googly eyes modding man!

What does "Attention" do exactly? I'm curious

@Luis Alfonso Pinto Yup, everything you said here is correct.


Except for the fact that this is an absolutely shitty practice. Yes, it is legal and it's in their best economic interest but that just goes to show how much they look down upon their customers. It's true, they don't technically owe their consumers anything and they have all the rights to sue anyone that causes them trouble... except that sounds like an awful and toxic environment. Run that by any other company's fanbase and the internet probably explodes.
Additionally, this wouldn't even be a problem in the first place if they had embraced the idea of a competitive environment. League of Legends is probably the biggest game in the planet and a large part of it is due to the narratives spawned from their competitive scene. Plus, realistically speaking, not much of the public (proportionally speaking) actuallg cares about melee tournaments or fan creations. Most casuals dont even know much about Nintendo outside of "look, a new big franchise released a new game!". Matter of fact, even those invested in Melee still probably own a Switch and bought the newest release. It's really is just Nintendo being shitty and using outdated business practices.

@calypso wh

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
> 3das is definitive vers officially
SM64 is literally missing non-Shindou ver and it has inaccurate sound emulation and a shitty filter on top of it while galaxy feels like they couldn't find any way to replace the wiimote controls so they just slapped the most halfassed idea in and called it a day.

> mario games STOMP
lol

> fangames literally take from the original source for free
most of them are built on engines that have nothing to do with nintendo, what are you smoking

> mother 3
you're right here

also before you roll the ENTITLED card because people like you quite like doing it:
corporations only survive because people give them money. a corporation should respect it's customers, because otherwise it will die. nintendo does not respect me or my views at all, therefore, i will not give them any money. any questions?

@Marx 1.- Original version of Mario 64 doesnt have rumble. And saying its the bedt version because of speedrun glitches is a meme.

2.- Mario is a vastly more popular than most Videogame characters. Its value as an IP is above the likes of Crash, rayman, spyro, etc. Making the games in the collection have a high value even without remakes in the present day.

3.- They are taking from the IP. I fully support them making their own characters.

@Marx 4 - Mother 3 has sensitive content/topics such as a drug flipout segment and the gypsies. The real reason is unknown, but that might be enough for them to decide not to release the game.

5.- And i never said i buy everything nintendo. I am not some mindless consumer that feels the need to buy anything nintendo makes.
Do not buy it or pirate it if you want, no one is forcing you to buy the game.
the original video above you literally says that you shouldve ratio'd Sephiroth's trsiler because they didnt allow the Etika joyconboyz to be sold. And emotional drama aside, they literally have no obligation to support the sale of their patented controller be it for charity or not.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
1. speedrun glitches affect culture and one of the main reasons why SM64 got so exposed to the new generation are bloopers (done with emulators and hacks) and speedruns.

2. vastly more popular, too bad that most countries outside of america and japan don't really care about the games - just about the sheer existence of him. look at any post-soviet country - most russians don't give a shit even about mario odyssey, and only view mario as a cultural icon.

@Marx 1.- Okay. Do you think Nintendo will consider the glitchier version of their game the better version? Specially without rumble?

Also using YOUTUBE to justify the sale of a Nintendo 64 Game is beyond stupid.

2.- Dodging the question.
Do you agree Mario is more valuable as an IP than Spyro/Crash/Rayman yes or no.

@Marx Nice concession

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
it is so sad that steve jobs died of ligma.

legit question, why don't melee fans get together and make a legally distinct version of melee? the tech behind the game is 20 years old and thousands of people know the mechanics better than the original devs did. I realize there's a gap between overhauling Brawl to run like Melee and making a new game, but it's been six years since project m shut down and I kinda figured that would be the next step.

@asparagusoffice They want to see the nintendo characters in the games they play.

If they legit just cared about gameplay and nothing else, they'd all move to Eather.

@calypso "Smash is a game for pedos" sorry, but your sick in the head if you think like that.

@YBom06 YT yeah, you'd think other companies would start to join in on the whole being a business thing.

@Naxcco it isn't their job to care about the customers. It's their job to sell a product.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto rumble = complete technical overhaul, makes sense

@Assistant to the Regional Sith Lord And now Arlo is bitching about not having rumble on NSO.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto yes it’s nice to have, however it’s not enough to just throw in rumble and call it a remake, especially when rumble was already in the game.

@Assistant to the Regional Sith Lord What the hell are you talking about? Shindou already had rumble in the late 90s.
You got your stupid BLJ back in exchange of rumble on NSO. Go play that.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto ...so... why is Nintendo the only ones that actually do this? What about Gabe Newell's cutthroat tactics towards fans creating parodies of Valve games, or rather, his complete absence of them and indeed support of the fanbase in a complete 180 from the Nintendo tactic? You seem to have dodged the entire point, ranting about how successful Mario is as if that answers for why Portal and Half-Life are still suuuper successful despite Gabe Newell openly supporting hte fanbase and even creating engines like Garry's Mod and Source Filmmaker for developers.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto Man, just read the whole thread and you really can't go 2 replies without personally attacking someone that actually agreed with you.

@ratemisia! Because the Mario IP is worth more than almost if now all of Valve's.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto Doesn't mean Valve doesn't have so much money they have no idea what to do with it. Give a straight answer - why is Nintendo's strategy mandatory if Valve isn't bankrupt?

@ratemisia! A corporation's goal is to get money. Nintendo is the most porfitable corporation in Japan currently.

Again, Mario is worth more than all of Valve's IPs. Protecting their brand is necessary.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto Still haven't answered the question, just restated your previous points. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think you might not have a straight answer...

@ratemisia! I just did. You just want to get a green light on piracy.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto manchild

The law is there to serve the people, NOT FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE THE LAW

@Machiel de Groot Kendrick unmatched

The law should also protect fairness.

lobbying is why shid dont change.

@gustav champoski Exactly. I'm still in middle school and have to know about this. The reason so many people are depressed isn't because they think the world is a cruel place, but it's because it is a cruel place. The difference between living a sad life and a "normal" life though is the act of caring or not. The main reason people do things in life is to make it count, at least before life tries to fuck it up. A way of escapism, which is why people like to come together and make media, which companies like Nintendo happen to create. It's a cycle full of thousands of parts, which seems to only get worse and worse...





But screw that! Lets just go to stupid parties, get into stupid love, get stupid jobs, have stupid hobbies, and do stupid stuff. I'm a kid, and I got Iife to live until I die, and so do you! I dare you to eat some corndogs in a princess costume and a diaper, because why the fuck not!
If you want your life to be a good one, then go out and make it, whichever way you want to do it. Just like from a capitalist corporation, just do it.
Have fun everyone.

@gustav champoski Change is impossible with that mindset...

@gustav champoski Yes. I do agree that we should take matters into our own hands. I believe that the government, corporations, and the 1% should be beneath the people. But my question is how do we get there?

Fair is a concept for kids.

@David Davis That means we should make everything unfair!

@Machiel de Groot we only have two parties to vote for, representative democracy sucks.

@Supreme Calamitas Parties are not the reason representative systems suck, the representatives have a mind of their own, and those minds aim to the most primal thing of humanity: Having Power(tm) to live well, no matter the expense.

@JSSM-VCJR / Canal 2.1 it is at least a huge part of the problem, although I do agree representative democracy is inferior, and should only be used to make fast decisions, like in war ect.

What a ridiculous notion

@David Davis chad racism, sexism, classism, nationalism, and other unfair practices advocate

Its the law but not justice

Exactly

"The law is not to protect the people, people are to protect law" - Akane Tsunemori

@Machiel de Groot People who don’t already did and did not get anything. Activism in current times is almost useless with many companies (especially Nintendo and YouTube) because it’s a cycle of people complaining for a bit, then adapt and everything stays the same.
So I’d rather spend my days in projects that will at least go somewhere for me rather than political activism that will just get me in a worse mental state.
Tho It can be useful sometimes but I won’t let my life go into a downward spiral of politics, I just want to grill.

@David Davis why?

@Antoni Kudlickiyes it is that’s the whole reason why the law exists

@David Davis 🤡

‘Being Legal doesn’t make it right.’
Raiden

@draguO doT I worked in dog sled racing until about a year ago. And i had a full career working with animals before that. Working in racing made me see how bad it really is and that it needs to be illegal.

PETA makes alot more since to me now. What you say is true "because it’s a cycle of people complaining for a bit, then adapt and everything stays the same." But peta FORCES the issue. With the iditarod they are there EVERY YEAR. Since their views are a bit extreme in our current society, they don't fall victim to that trap you described. Since things are so far from the way they want them to be, they will always be complaining. That GOOD.

The HSUS used to be against the iditarod, but they are more focused on getting donations, if hey actually try to CHANGE anything they will ruffle to many feathers.

But yea, activism is pretty bad for your mental state lol. animal racing needs to be banned. Most people would agree if they knew what i knew. Its maddening we are letting people get away with that crap.

@Machiel de Groot it's not entirely their fault. We are groomed from children to learn that voting for your president is the only thing that matters. Most people can't even say who their governor or district rep is.

Modern American politics has been turned into this weird reality TV thing and I hate it

@Machiel de Groot lmao you actually think voting and protesting makes political change? What are you, 12?

@Flash Da Beest That was very well said for a middle schooler. Heck, that was very well said for an adult. I respect your pov and hope you are doing well in whatever endeavors you choose to take in life. Thank you

@Flash Da Beest dude if you're in middle school and you're this articulate you owe it to the world to go into writing.

That's how the law works

That movie has aged so well

That's the funny thing about Nintendo. You can understand the immoral behavior when it would generate profit for them. That at least makes logical sense and its understandable that a company might think it would better meet its obligation to shareholders by prioritizing short term profit vs long term customer goodwill. But in some cases its like they are trying to actively avoid making money. Other than the competitive scene, virtual console is a great example. People would gladly buy games through that at $5-a piece if Nintendo allowed it. I guess at the end of the day Nintendo doesn't respond to its customers or to what makes financial sense, but history has shown they respond to competition. Hopefully Steam Deck emulation will convince them to bring VC to Switch like they did with BT audio. If competition from Valve doesn't convince them, nothing will.

I get it. "Ultimately" failed.

@John Smith "Let's destroy our free advertisement and get most off our side"

The irony is they've admitted that. Nintendo has finally caved to at least sanction their own competitive support.

It’s a completely understandable perspective that a company that makes video games targeted toward children that are supposed to universally accessible and easy wouldn’t want a ring of toxic pedophiles to be the most famous part of it

@Ben S your hindsight is 20/20

Hah, did anyone else see the pun?

Hahahaha. Smash ultimate. Ultimately. I see what'cha did there. ;D

@Big Pimpin HEHEHEH YES SOMEONE WHO ALSO SAW IT

@i'm taking you to flavor town you literally proved emp’s point that the reputation of the community is beyond repair

@Staringcorgi6 Yeah, it’s true. It will never be the same

Sorry if I’m being dumb but how so?

Nintendo has a history of DMCAing fan based mods of older games that get big because Nintendo has neglected to update that individual IP, as well as actively deny the Smash Bros Melee competitive scene any real sponsorship or acknowledgement and even going as far as sabotaging those self made communities. (if youre still curious, look into the smash melee scene, Smash Project M, Metroid Fan made game)

The worst part is, Nintendo refuses to do anything with these communities, ensuring they die if they take down the more passionate communities.

@speedguy20 ah I see thanks.

@GameGator Super Smash Bros Limited, turly not ultimate and has none of all the modes, stages, items and the trophies of previous games.

Because of deadlines similar to Smash Bros Melee. Meaning it actually sucks.
All ya do in Ultimate offline is collect spirits in Ultimate and pay all the DLC. If ya not compeititve and love the Event mode in Brawl and Smash Bros 4 Wii U. You know why Smash Flash 2 is the best unofficial Smash game. Same for Smash Bros Crusade.

@IsaacInfernape2000 ok

@Ben S oh thats a cute opinion did you get it from a youtuber?

Iberoamerica is a good place to be a pirate.

based and caralhopilled

This is why I haven't bought a switch, they're not hackable so I can't slap pirated games onto them

It’s south america though

@Icetea 2000 and

@Juan Quintero Nothing :)

@金3 A.M. they are moddable but it takes too much work to where you can get an old ps4 and mod that thing very easily now

@Good and Fren As an argentine, I agree.

When you have to sell your ass and kidneys to buy just the consoles and still have to pay even more overprices I don't see why the alternative shouldn't be considered

the us more like
solar system

@金3 A.M. They are absolutely hackable, I have had mine hacked for 3 years now.

belo e moral

@金3 A.M. Switches that were made before july 2018 are moddable on any firmware.

@金3 A.M. some are, and most will be eventually.

You have smart friends

Games workshop hates us too

EA begs... Actually no but still, I think EA is worse.

Most other companies just don’t care at all, but Nintendo actively tries to piss them off their loyal followers

@Pickle Odessey either unintentionally or on purposes. (look man, were is my pikmin 4)

Them and apple lol, apple tries so damn hard to make their products as costly to customers as possible without actually programing a self destruct feature

@Mack Moyle what purpose would a self destruct button do?

@hellon okay make the consumer buy a new phone/computer, Making apple more money, I didn't say button, I said feature. A timed "your phone will cease to function after this much time" that the consumer doesn't know about

They're evil. Which is why I'm boycotting Sintendo even more

Yo wassup AsumSaus

you both have the same voice its a little offputting

I was literally watching your pika video

holy crap it's the melee facts guy

I agree with guys also I love your videos A.S

Emplemon has become based and joined the revolution

Ayy it’s my boy Asumsaus

Your voices are so similar

Yeah. I think you stop being a nintendo fan once you start playing/loving melee and by spreading the love of melee i think people will clear their hazy vision of Nintendo as God

I also think it's great this video has such a positive reception, looking at the like to dislike ratio, I would have imagined such a video would have a much higher percentage of dislikes, but I'm glad to be proven wrong. Could it be that the majority of gamers or maybe even nintendo fans oppose their scummy practices and the ardent, delusional fanboys are actually just a very loud minority and the rest of the consumers don't actually speak up to avoid being dogpiled by them?

@gs leo I like to think people are starting to Wise up to Nintendo’s BS.

Hey saus, nice to see you here!

@Flip-a-dip-dip there's only so many things a company can pull until even the most die-hard followers cry foul

Holy shit it’s the melee dude

@Diamond Miner bruh quit copy pasting your paragraph. No one bothers to read them.

I illegality downloaded every popular NES/SNES/N64/GBA game then jailbroke my Wii and put those games on that Wii to spite Nintendo... why because Nintendo can go N69 themselves

It wasn’t a fantastic video and it isn’t refreshing

What’s up asumsaus

I’m pretty sure you guys are the same person

@Leeroy nice Akira Toriyama profile pic dude

@Diamond Miner Nintendo fans are “normal” as normal for them means to accept anything a company does as long as they can do it, and to never complain or protest the company. One day they criticize Nintendo for abusing their legal rights, next day they worship Nintendo’s newest DLC character. I’m not interested in anything Nintendo does anymore.

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@Diamond Miner so then, if it's only a minority that does this and not the masses, why does Nintendo get away with it?

@Jonathan Joestar hell yea thanks man

I love how Emplemon is speaking with himself.

hey Asum!

stop commenting on your own video

@Paz YES EXACTLY

daddy

@V Games It's like masks are the new 'cross' where you used to have a cross to ward off vampires and despite any criticism it's better to be 'safe' then sorry or says the church dean.

@Paz he sounds more like Joshua tomar

Woah. Waddup. ASUMSAUS.

Sup asumsaus

yo AsumSaus?! sick

@IveBeenMemed thee retreat r the garage and rrrrr

I’ll never be convinced that you and Emp aren’t the same person

@Diamond Miner im not reading that holy shit

Y’all are the same people. You just pitch up your voice in the AsumSaus channel

I used to think you two were the same people lol

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@Paz HOLY SHIT THEY DO WTF

wait they’re actually not the same person?

2of my new favorite creators comment on each other

You guys are the same person

One of my favorite video editors on YouTube commenting on another one of my favorite editors on YouTube. Life is good

Judging by your pfp i think you could have very easily been one of them lol.

@Damsen Console wars are a meme, I've always been vocal about my dissatisfaction if anything.

@Hateocracy I meant what i said because your pfp was anime, which mirrors with the Nintendo fanboys on twitter who also use them. I don't even know who that character is.

@Damsen if I'm seeing it correctly, I believe it's Rider from Fate Zero

Edit: Stay Night, not Zero

@DragonHeart 12 Don't care, didn't ask. If it's anime, it's garbage.

@Damsen stay mad bozo

@Silver Hare k?...

@DragonHeart 12 *Fate stay night
Rider in fate zero was a 7 foot tall muscular Alexander the great

And you seem the type to be dissatisfied with everything. Hating everything without looking into things or experiencing them yourself is what the average "modern gamer who fancies themselves a critic"

@Mansi Facio I just love how you assumed this person is “dissatisfied with everything” without even knowing who the hell they are

@Damsen Says the guy with a MHA playlist. Hypocrite much?

@Dozens of Knives MHA playlist? Wat?...

@ImmaLittlePip that is correct. Fun fact, apparently, Stay Night's Rider is supposed to be Medusa.

@Damsen lmao stay mad

@Arbi No, i stay happy.

Analogy?

No, its Disney, they did it before them, and it was worse with the mickey mouse copyright laws.

I think Valve has done a pretty decent job of surviving and not becoming completely evil.

@Minebrandon 52 Doesn't matter. Nintendo is trying to become disney 2.0.

@Nighttale233 I know, i am just saying it shouldn't be Nintendo and should instead be Disney because it was before and they had a bigger impact so far with pushing back the public domain by 20 years

@Minebrandon 52 we’re talking about Nintendo, go on a Disney video

@Minebrandon 52 … dude, look at the video you’re on. We all know the shit Disney does, that’s not what we’re talking about. Like really.

@Nighttale233 uhhh, Microsoft exists, so no, Nintendo isn't trying to do that

@Minebrandon 52 The video isn't about Disney

@行屍走肉 Valve hasn't released compelling games available to all in a decade, and the way they treat their existing games is terrible. I'm a TF2 fan and the fact the bot crisis gets worse everyday while offering more and more cosmetics shows how much they care

Or Sherwood Forest Software

Yes

And its hbomberguy no less

@ankleblad thus why it is based

that should never be a statement concept but the fact that it is is worrying

@Aizu Naizu he's cringe tho. One mildly-funny tweet doesn't change that.

​@Rabbi Herschel Lieberman-Bergblattstein thanks for the correct opinion i used to like his content a lot but now thanks to your comment i realize he is actually cringe thank you Rabbi Herschel Lieberman-Bergblattstein

good to see you’re still around 🖤

The thing is, most people don't care about this shit

Nintendo is a blessed company with some flaws we just have to look over

It's slowly happening. It took until #FreeMelee for me. I love Nintendo's franchises, but I've come to hate the company itself like I hate every other corporation that does sketchy shit.

I don’t think that’s true. I feel like the rational people compared to people who accept anything from them are like 2:1 from what I’ve seen.

@HollowKnightfan 2.5 I said SLOWLY, meaning it's very gradual.

@Hero of Time sorry I meant the comment not the replies.

@HollowKnightfan 2.5 It's fine.

Nope

Dude stop. It’s not going to happen to Nintendo because they didn’t do anything wrong

I think it's because the entire video game industry is filled with shitty practices. Nintendo has their stupid draconic ways of dealing with emulation of their content, and their decisions are sometimes dumb in a "Do you hate money?" kind-of-way. But their developers are some of the most brilliant motherfuckers in this industry, and they're insane perfectionists, the bullshit you've seen in Cyberpunk would NEVER be pass by Nintendo, they simply don't allow this kind of crap job.

At the same time, you have other companies, like Capcom for example, who are so much more open with their fandom and have made a lot of their stuff available online, but they've had the HORRIBLE practice of just delivering incomplete games (how many fighting games by them you've seen with meager rosters, and day one DLC?). Or Sony, who pulls an anti-consumer card every now and then (with a recent one regarding the upgrade bullshit on games like Ghost of Tsushima).

I used to defend Nintendo. Nowadays I hate their executives, especially after #FreeMelee. But a reason that they don't get as much flack, I think, is because like it or not, apart from the blind loyalty from fans, they haven't jumped in a lot of the industry malpractices of today, like loot boxes, trailers that oversell a game and eventually don't deliver on the promise.

the thing is, Nintendo still makes actually good games

@PattypooSirGuy7 at the very least Nintendo isnt politically driven

@AyoTech83 It really is sad that people only look at others' examples for comparison instead of lumping Nintendo's malpractices in with the rest.

@Robert Wolff
And Disney is?

Well I guess some of the MCU’s military propaganda could be called into question, but something tells me those aren’t the politics you’re referring to.

I see them both,and I wish rest could as well and stop buying their high quality soulless products

@A Pinch of Bazel I think he's referring to how Disney keeps putting in surface-level female empowerment in their movies. I say surface-level because all they're saying is "female stronk, not need man" instead of giving them any actual characterization. For an example, look no further than 2020 Mulan. She was a dynamic character in the 1998 movie, but now she's just bland and super powerful.

And for the record, I'm not going into Disney's current history with China. That's a whole other can of worms.

@Hero of Time Because it doesn't really matter it people still participate in Nintendo malpractices: paying for their lackluster online, amiibos, buying 3D-All starts despite meming it's ridiculous business model, etc.
It's the exact same thing as lootboxes: complaining about them doesn't matter if people still buy them by the dozens.

@Xfusion That's why I said it's a shame.

See, I'm in the camp of thinking nintendo makes great games, and the actual devs that work on them are pretty good, while the entire upper management/corporate/executive side of the company is dogshit and behind the times, but really dumb comments like this are exactly why no one takes any criticism of nintendo as a business seriously.
The average person is not going to be swayed by you comparing a company boomering it up and being out of touch to going out of their way to thank a concentration camp. And this isn't just a one time occurrence, any dumb cosmetic dlc gets included in a nintendo game, I try to push back against, I'm drowned out by a dozen people saying it's as bad, if not worse than EA lootboxes, and everyone dismisses the reasonable criticism as being just as hyperbolic.

@Hero of Time
Female representation isn’t political. We can talk all the livelong day about Disney hiding behind ideologies to make up for shitty writing, but that’s hardly a political agenda.

Quite the opposite. Disregarding the fact that, again, the presence of another gender (or sexuality) isn’t inherently political, Disney straight-up clearly doesn’t believe in any of these ideas. It’s half-assed populism at best, with a few creators doing their best to deliver something genuine in the mess.

I think its about equal for both. I can hear a triggered rage from either end of the spectrum with their name close by, but at the same time its real hard for some to resist them and still be entertained in some culture spectrums. Especially Disney as they hold closer to a big monopoly. Nintendo oddly has much less solitary ground to stand on. They're historic, and invoke childhood nostalgia, but that's where that ends, and they've got the right competition that many children may have grown up divided more on favoring Sonic, Spyro, or Minecraft instead, and no amount of C&D orders have canned the fact you can now play better Metroid genre games that the inspiration itself. Still, their hooks are into some people far enough.

Disney is horrific with their relation to China, and just corporates mishaps and hollowed messaging. Even back with Walt around, there were some questionable practices, and odd decisions made, strangling either creators or fans. Still the way the industry evolved, you cannot properly know animation without going through Disney. Their influence dominates the medium across many years, and what you're left with is either dodging the genre, left to B-tier junk and indies, or seeking back older times where they had better competitors that in some way always failed (even Dreamworks is now rolled up into a crap studio, and seemingly may never be what they were). Boss Baby sequels don't quite compare to Raya, and finding a modern Spiderverse is a rare jar of lightning (Not to mention extra weird given the Sony-Disney tangle of that character). Don't care? They still have you covered with half the bigger hero market, Star Wars, and a large collection of Fox stuff - don't even have to like their new stuff, buying into the classics still sends that money to them anyhow. That's why people struggle to do more than fuss at Disney. They really need to be broken up... and of course, society itself tends to support some mass-appeal garbage, so of course we still have Boss Baby sequels while the Titan AEs of old are left to indies at best.

@SpinosaurusStudios Or how about actually improving before it happens. You have to be aware that people work there, and some of them may not have any choices for what other jobs they can take. They'd want their company to improve their mistakes too.

@bocodamondo
I think there's a good reason. The problems with Disney are most likely to kill Disney than Nintendo's issues will kill them, and you can see why. I mean most movies made by Disney (meaning no Star Wars or Marvel movies) had serious flaws. This is especially in the live-action department, even BEFORE a single remake, and it's been awful for decades. Nintendo did have years that were rough like this one, but most of Disney's years were worse than rough.

That's because Disney changed and became extremely far left and "woke". People are opening their eyes about current modern Disney because people are opening their eyes to how BS "WOKENESS" and leftist extremism is.

@A Pinch of Bazel Why do you think I said surface-level? I'm all for feminism, but Disney (as well as several other companies) have been doing it dirty for the past few years.

@PenZFGC Oh, the Nintendo fanbase defends that too. They were all like "yeah? Well, the mobile market works differently, so they're allowed to be scummy sometimes! At least they're not putting it in our beloved triple A releases!" Even though I'm pretty sure a good chunk of those mobile games still actually cost some money to play the full version (at least Super Mario Run does; don't know if it's pulling a Tour yet).

@Hero of Time ROFL

It's kind of tragic knowing for how scary of a company Nintendo has truly become. Their sins are literally worse than that of Disney's

Nintendo has always been pretty messed up in what they've done, and I won't disagree with you. This video goes into more into depth than I could ever. But Disney has been proven to be complicit with both the tyranny of the CCP and Xinjiang concentration camps. You cannot compare the two when Disney will support genocide for their bottom line.

@Christian Barker He was referring to how people are starting to realize that Disney, as a company, has finally been coming under scrutiny for everything they've been doing, including what you just described. Even Alex Hirsch called Disney out on their own hypocrisy.

at least there are countless well made videos explaining the problems with nintendo and how they spend more effort going after modders and roms instead of just re-releasing the classic games themselves.

The rational people don’t always act out a problem that isn’t especially how exclusive it is to the west for this to happen

Honestly Nintendo is a saint compared to Disney and if any game company is like Disney, it would be EA.

@Superior Nicholas I think EA just draws attention away from other companies. At this point, their main job is to go "look at the dancing monkey making business decisions that nobody asked for!" while everyone else lives with much less scrutiny. And I'm not just talking about how Nintendo avoids blame; Activision Blizzard as a whole have done far worse and continue to make billions, which all go to its overpaid CEO instead of underpaid workers. Yet because EA is the lightning rod so to speak, they get far less backlash. It's like every time something comes out about EA, the other companies are allowed to get away with anything they want.

But honestly, that's just my theory. I might just be spouting hot air. ^^;

Edit: This is before Activision Blizzard's recent scandal. I didn't even anticipate that at the time. Bonus points for hindsight, I guess?

@Hero of Time not just companies the vocal minority that has used feminism has a hand at this too.

@Hero of Time I take it back. EA, activision and blizzard are like Disney.

@much winters While they did kickstart everything that's been going on, it was the corporations that chose to cater to that bottom dollar even if they don't actually buy their stuff. Not saying those "extreme feminists" aren't guilty, though; this new mindset had to come from somewhere, after all. Honestly, it just makes me feel bad for the actual feminists. They worked so hard for us, and then extreme feminism came and ruined the concept.

@Hero of Time agreed

But We Also Cant Forget That Disney Was Never Perfect In The Past Eather.

@Superior Nicholas nah Activision would be the most similar to Disney for me. Like Disney, Activision still makes decent products for the most part, but they will bend over backwards for CCP

Activision Blizzard is horrible

​@Isauldron This Video Does Make Me Hate These People More Because If They Saw This Video And Were Like "Lol We Should Be The Ones For You To Throw Crap At Not Nintendo. How About We Mess Up Woman And Make Them Sucide So That They Would See Us As Worse HUHUHUHUHUHUHUH!!!!!" Dont Get Me Wrong Those Actions Are Worse But That Does Not Mean Im Looking Down On Nintendos Problems.

@Isauldron well hindsight 2020, but I wrote that before the allegations came out.

i like some disney movies

"but as for Nintendo...it doesnt look like this will happen anytime soon...." this is sadly ture.

@fungus meister "Nintendo is a blessed company with some flaws we just have to look over" that oddly sounds like something someone form a cult would say.

@Enclave Soldier "the thing is, Nintendo still makes actually good games" oh you mean games like,
Mario kart 8,


all the new sups games,

mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,

paper mario color splash,

paper mario origami king

mario and luigi paper jam,

mario party 9,

mario party 10,

super mario party,

mario party the top 100,

mario tennis ultra smash,

mario tennis ace,

mario sports superstars,

yoshi new island,

luigi's mansion 3,

and all the lazy other rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Lance Burns "See, I'm in the camp of thinking nintendo makes great games, and the actual devs that work on them are pretty good, while the entire upper management/corporate/executive side of the company is dogshit" so Nintendo is just like every other company then.

@Enclave Soldier oh sorry, my bad then.

​@AyoTech83 "I'm talking mostly about their mainline games" so the new supes games are not mainline games then? "if you consider games like Mario Kart 8 lazy and mediocre" sorry but Mario kart 8 was one of the laziest most garbage games i have ever played,
the bikes in the game sucks,
the gliders in Mario Kart 8 are awful and super janky to control,
the kart customization in the game is awful,
the level design is super lazy and boring,
200cc in the game is so broken that the ai keeps running in to walls/off the stage,
the antigravity mechanic is super bad and does basically nothing for the gameplay, and there are almost no shortcuts in the game.
"if you consider games like Luigi's Mansion 3 "lazy and mediocre" it's ture that i have never played Luigi's Mansion 3, but it just looks like every other lazy and mediocre mario game "not saying that all mario games are lazy and mediocre" i have already played, also your contradicted yourself since Luigi's Mansion 3 was not made by Nintendo.
"You just contradicted yourself so bad here. Pokemon S&S trailers never oversold the game, so much that people picked on the crappy graphics from the get-go." oopsie your right, but game freak still lied about the game.
"About the loot boxes: you gave me two examples on mediocre portable games developed, again, by a third party." but it was still published by Nintendo.
"You'll never see a loot box on a mainline 3D Mario or Zelda" not yet att least.
"Compare that to the rest of the industry, dumping these shitty practices on their BIG AAA GAMES." not every BIG AAA GAME thats not Nintendos has lootboxs in them.

That's because Nintendo is Japanese, & Disney is American.

@gamephreak5 Do tell, because I have no idea what this is about.

Disney makes great movies and Nintendo makes great games

@PersonaLover249 "Nintendo makes great games" not anymore since a lot of Nintendo games are garbage now.

Hey some Disney movies were made with love. In a sweatshop with slavedrivers in suits whipping their tenacious ties at the poor trembling animators with carpal tunnel. But made with love!

Horrible movies?? Are you saying Chicken Little is a bad movie?!?

@V Games Name 5 Nintendo games released within the past 3 years that have been garbage

​@PersonaLover249 New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe,
Super Mario 3D All-Stars,
Dr. Mario World,
Mario Kart Tour,
Mario Golf: Super Rush,
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey,
Super Mario Party,
Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu!,
just so you know i can list more garbage Nintendo games if you let me list all of the games Nintendo has released over the years.

@V Games All of those are really good games, you don't know what you're talking about

​@PersonaLover249 "All of those are really good games," lets see,
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe is a lazy 60 dollar port with almost no new content of an already lazy game.
Super Mario 3D All-Stars is a limited release 60 dollar game with no new content with a bootleg looking cover art that has a worse version of super mario 64 in it.
Mario Kart Tour is one of the worst games ever made with lootboxs and an subscription service for kids.
Mario Golf: Super Rush is mah att best i guess.
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey is such a lazy remake.
Super Mario Party is super mediocre and has to few board to play with.
Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu is lazy and way to easy to beat and the story is mah.

@V Games NSMBDU, MKT and SMP are the best games in their respective franchises
Sure 3D All Stars was limited release, but it's three classics brought to a new generation
Mario Golf Super Rush isn't the best Mario Golf game (I'd say Toadstool Tour and World Tour are better)
Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey took a legendary game, made it even better and added an awesome side mode
Let's Go Pikachu I'll agree with you is pretty bad, but Let's Go Eevee is where it's at.

Clearly you're just a diehard PlayStation or Xbox fan who just wants satisfaction from making fun of the "dumb baby company"

plus timed exclusivity and overall port badness

Marvel movies . . . Are good

@Rat ture, but i still dislike how some corporations get an unfair pass with this argument.

actually, ive been seeing a lot more social media outrage at them, more than i have for disney tbh so it could happen?

@Adam Zahavi not every director, animator or voice actor poor their heart and soul into the things they work on.

I’ll be glad when that day comes.

@GodZpeed X7II you are 100% wrong mister
nintendo has done a lot of things wrong

🙏 thank you

@Doodle_productions0 You're welcome 😉

@LittleGyro did you just.... add chapters to a video without one? And gave them fitting names? Wow

@Thanoid Well they already have chapter names but the last 2 I just made up.

Thanks for the timestamps. It's a lot easier to move around now.

The worst thing is that some people are conscious about it and don’t do anything because “haha it’s funny cuz Nintendo is abusing us but they give us Hype Games.”

Not defending Nintendo but the shut down was from a Nintendo imposter.

@Sponge Man That's bullshit. I've heard that theory thrown around before with so many things and I've never believed a second of it. It's like fanboys tried to blame some mysterious "troll" because they didn't want to consider the possibility that the oh-so-mighty Nintendo would do such a thing. It's the product of fanboys in denial, and I'm sick of hearing it. Not saying you're a fanboy, I just wanted to try and speak up about that claim.

Also, Youtube themselves confirmed on Twitter that it was the real Nintendo that filed those copyright claims.

As BlazingRoman said, YouTube confirmed it was Nintendo and not an impostor.

@Sponge Man I don't mean no hate, but it was Nintendo

@No Name Oh.

Nintendo be like: You have to pay for a game in order to listen to its’ songs, we will not tolerate reuploading them!

It wasn't Nintendo that took down Gilvasumner It was someone impersonating Nintendo. The last thing I don't want to see anymore is people use Iwata's death as a weapon against Nintendo in a disgusting and disturbing way that disturbed a bunch of innocent people online

@M64bros I didn't say anything about Iwata?

@Epic Typhlosion I know you didn't say anything about Iwata. I'm just telling you what's been happening outside of the hate. I'm not throwing shade at you or anything. I'm just telling you

@M64bros
Actually it was confirmed by YouTube that it WAS Nintendo that took down Gilvasunner

@EndLaiser They didn't mention Nintendo of America Co or Nintendo JP. On the Twitter tweet earlier on sol Nintendo JP does not exist. So it could be a YouTube bot defending the person that's impersonating Nintendo. Just an FYI YouTube can say the same message over and over again and what's worse is they said if there are something wrong you can always contact us. What's really makes me hate Susan wachowski even more....

M64bros will make a fine sacrifice to the church of Nintendo

@LENNY B pretty flashy for an NFL dude. Do you have a job?

@LENNY B Also I've already wrote a letter to Nintendo telling them about people using Iwata's death And surprisingly they responded to me. I wrote them a letter as proof that they still listen to their fans

@M64bros how does that boot taste

@inky how about you get an actual job since you were created in 2020 and listening to people spread out miscalculations that mean nothing to us whatsoever. Do you even have a job?

@M64bros lol what

@your vids Not even joking Look all the way up and I was specifically telling one person that I'm not throwing shade at him or anything. Just telling him some realistic facts then these children came out of nowhere and told me shade. I'm not even making this up I'm being 100% serious.

@your vids on my YouTube channel I'm always serious and truthful and I never even lie to my fans. I even care about them and even understand them and also help them out. What I also do is show them actual evidence and proof of a company being wrongly hated or bashed at. Not only am I defending Nintendo but I'm also defending Nickelodeon and RWBY. Their CEOs also died and people are using their deaths as excuses. People are using Steven's death as an excuse against the SpongeBob spin-offs, People using Monty death as an excuse against RWBY. Look man. I totally get it. Three of these companies had their dark sides but using their CEO's deaths as an excuse against them isn't going to bring them back or even make the companies better It's just making the situation worse. I won't defend Nintendo against the bad decisions they made but I will defend them against people using Iwata's death as a weapon against them. (along with the others) Also I don't think it's a person at Nintendo hawk watching people doing stuff with their IPs. It's probably a screwed up bot Nintendo needs to fix. That's one interesting fact rather than blame it all on Shuntaro Furukawa himself. Also he didn't make the decision for paid online It was planned along before he even became president. I'm just telling you all these truthful facts. I'm not throwing shade at you at all I'm just telling you.

@M64bros Jesus christ.

@your vids look man. I know. But at this point we have to move on. On the bright side everything's going back to normal Nintendo teamed up with Panda, fixed the online membership as promised and gave us mother on the NES online as fans wanted. But the thing is some of these hate videos could have false opinions sometimes. I'm sure you've heard similar stories like these on penguinz0 video and other Nintendo hate stories. We've already gotten all the information we need from them and it's something we'll never forget but we can move on

@your vids Also truthfully I'm not like Herman Smith. I don't say the Nintendo switch is better than everything else. I'm also PC and Xbox and I respect the developers manners. Had something a console fanboy would say. Luckily for you I'm one of those respectful ones. like I said This whole argument was 10 days ago and at this point we've all moved on. It's over

@M64brosproving emplemon right with each paragraph that nobody is gonna read.

@Lone Shark probably cuz they're little children that don't even have a job whatsoever and literary part of the problem. Do you have a job?

@Bob Snob didn't you say some similarity to byron mitchell?

@M64bros who?

@Bob Snob byron mitchell. The other person you're talking about in another comment section.

@Bob Snob  Did he say he was defending Nintendo? No! That's his problem not mine not mine. Also I don't know if you've been living underneath a rock or anything but this whole conversation started one month ago and newcomers are too dumb to even realize that we've already moved on. (I'm not saying you're dumb however I'm just saying it to the others)

Who's Gary Bower?

@Game Hero he's the guy who sold the hacked switches.

@Game Hero Here's more information about him if you're interested: https://youtu.be/LdOFeCcjK_0

this was a good read
nintendo did shut down glivasunner

@Ottocon Jump The person that was impersonating Nintendo. Frustrating that the YouTube bot Is defending the person that's impersonating Nintendo.

@M64bros You have an unhealthy obsession with other people's employment status. You know Nintendo are a company that produces products designed to be enjoyed as a hobby not devoutly followed and defended like a religion? Have you considered going outdoors or maybe even talking to a woman? The fact your this riled up over people's criticism of a video game company is kinda sad.

@MyNameJeff12 "Have you ever considered going outside and talking to a woman". Jesus Christ bro. Are you drunk or something? Cuz I'm not but I do go outside a lot and do other stuff besides all that. I don't know if you've been living underneath the rock or everything I've already moved on from this.

@MyNameJeff12 Well technically I have a creative mind but I can stick with that.

@M64bros you're saying that it was someone impersonating Nintendo just because "They didn't mention Nintendo of America Co or Nintendo JP."? Sounds like a pedantic excuse.

@Matei Stoian It wasn't an excuse it was a guess. Also this comment section has already expired ever since and I've already moved on. Are you seriously going to attack me for saying that opinion just like the others did? Cuz I don't want any more bloodshed

I just want to tell you all that attacking me for saying a specific opinion is very unnecessary and very uncalled for. Also truthfully Gilvasumner is already back and he has a channel called SilvaGunner. What were you guys even drinking or doing when attacking me? Do you attack other people for saying a guess or an fact or something else they probably say in their own opinion. Also do you guys even have jobs or are you all fully grown ass adults cuz I've seen most of you guys were made in 2021 or 2022 considering you don't even know anything accurately considering I'm assuming One of you are still young. I myself was specifically saying an interesting fact and I was being nice completely after the first two comments and then most of you guys started to attack me starting with the NFL dude. I was completely nice until you guys decided to attack me. Do you guys do this to other people as well? If so then you guys have a completely unhealthy addiction to the internet. I Not on the internet all the time I'm usually outside doing other stuff and I have a completely normal healthy life. It's very sad that you guys are actually listening to people spread out misinformation and even attacking other people for saying a fact or an opinion. It just makes you guys look very disrespectful or even predictable. I'm not attacking you guys for this I'm just telling you. Sometimes the internet is not real or even realistic. I'm sure you guys are smart enough to realize that as well

I'm not attacking you guys. I'm just telling you guys my honest response and the truth.

And nobody shut up.

@M64bros and I work for a Bank if you need to ask this pointless question again

@Archie Finally an actual real person that knows reality more than believing everything on a silver screen

That’s true yes

@Dank Cats Memes are you agreeing with him or to me?

The got rid of the dislike button because of the last election.

oof

Oh me meow OSW on a EmpLemon video!

I remember that NJPW incident, that was pure bollocks

Tbf Sega is a Japanese company too and they are much more lenient and fair when it comes to copyright and their fans

@LukeDuf Well, yeah....... You're not your race. But that doesn't mean you can't notice the differences in countries habits especially in business, where we have sony and nintendo dicking us down as hard as they can, and the american in the console race is just so inept and bad at everything they might as well be Google

Every gen is 3 steps forward 10 steps back

Didn’t Sony originate in Japan?

@LukeDuf The large majority of Sega's console sales didn't come from Japan, they came from the international sphere. Sonic is considerably more popular outside of Japan. Sega kind of has to play outside of typical Japanese company conventions as a result.

@LukeDuf Not exactly, there have been takedowns of games, such as a Persona fangame. SEGA of America is more lenient when it comes to fangames and usually has to constantly bicker with SEGA of Japan, same goes for many companies with multiple country subsidiaries.
Either way, although it's appreciated what some companies allow for the fans to do, always keep your guard up.

...what're the odds that the Yakuza run Nintendo?

@caberwikijack I'd say that it would explain why the Yakuza games aren't on the Switch, but the first 2 were on the Wii U, sooo...

Western companies are consumed by greed, but Japanese companies are consumed by wrath(looking at you konami)

"it was like a Mafia hit"
Yakuza was never left japan coorporative world

@LukeDuf Sega had to do that to survive after dreamcast died
Nintendo sadly dont need it

And then there's SEGA.

@LukeDuf yeah to hell they are. Sega takes down their soundtracks/fangames too. Just look at the fanmade Streets of Rage game.

Sega is pretty chill about emulation, fan games, and other Sega stuff especially with Sonic. Sega despite being a fully functioning Japanese company was actually a merger of two American companies. I wonder if that has anything to do with their relaxed attitude toward fans?

@caberwikijack It's more complex than that. The Yakuza are really the last vestige of actual samurai culture, as after the Meiji restoration, it was samurai loyalists who went underground that took over organized crime in Japan. However, Japanese corporations try to instill in their employees a similar value system to how samurai retainers used to believe in their Daimyo and local clans. A company is just a modern day samurai clan in some employees' eyes, and you must do everything for that clan, be absolutely loyal to it, and you must destroy its enemies . . . legally, in a business sense.

So the idea of Japanese businesses using absolutely ruthless tactics that are often exactly what you'd see crime families doing stems from this belief system for the most part. It's a belief system that the Yakuza also share, but it's not necessarily because they're actually connected to each other in a direct way.

That said, the above is more about the general business culture of Japan. In Nintendo's case, I'm about 95% sure that they've actually had a fair amount of direct Yakuza connections. Mostly in the 1980s though. Their company president at the time, Hiroshi Yamauchi, who had been with the business long before they got into video games, had all kinds of shady connections and made earlier business ventures in territories that the yakuza themselves often delved into, like love hotels in the 1970s and early 80s. There's also just the fact that Nintendo as a company, started out by selling Hanafuda cards, and Hanafuda gambling dens were the ORIGINAL front for basically all of the Yakuza. It's almost inconcievable that any major Hanafuda card company as long lived as Nintendo wouldn't have made a lot of Yakuza connections over the many years the company has existed.

Which gets to a subject no one ever wants to get into, but the company is literally over a century old, and they absolutely were selling products to the Imperial Japanese in the 1940s, and 100% this also means they were selling to the rest of the axis powers: i.e. the Nazis. People will give Coca Cola and Hugo Boss and other companies shit for being tied to Nazis, but they never Nintendo shit for it because they just think of them as a video game company and so couldn't have existed back then.

Oh, but they did.

i think the Language barrier and different Copyright Law makes pressuring them very hard you can also see it in the Anime industry the don't care about the international market that much

People tell me how amazing Japan is ,I tend to be very annoyed because of their business environments

Studio Ghibli is also infamously against you uploading any of their content online if I recall correctly.

Japanese business culture is brutal as hell. Its where all the pent up aggression from WW2 was funneled into.

@LukeDuf they actually more of an american company but i see where you are coming from

@Darkzeroprojects It's amazing to visit for vacation. Living there or working there is hell.

I think it's a cultural thing.

@Klammy Vagikarp I know ,It terrifies me how its people even live as they do in the working conditions.
If I recall isn't the suicide rate alot?

@Felipe Jaquez o_o;
That would ....Make alot more sense.
It's still terrifying to me.

I Feel Like Thats Because Japan Is A Poor Place Getting Flooded Overall And How They Got Bombed In World War 2 Or They Always HAve A History With It. Tell Me What You Think.

@Quantum Passport yeah but that's the thing, they're the exception.

Japanese companies really need to stop acting as if fan content is going to demolish their bottom line and just let it thrive already!

@caberwikijack Thing is, many believed that the Yamaguchi family who ran Nintendo, was Yakuza related. Ever since the Yamaguchi family stepped off from Nintendo, it has become more soft. If anything, Nintendo needs to be Yakuza owned again to make it strong as it was in the 80s and early 90s.

@LukeDuf no they aren't Sega is just as strict, it's just Sega America is chill and they usually make decisions on copyright and other issues

There's a chinese mobile game that got this little animated shorts series. Fans translated and subbed these shorts in English and uploaded them no problem. Then the company let a Japanese media company translate the shorts into Japanese and fans would translate and sub the Japanese shorts again. This time though the Japanese media company copyright stiked every single one of the Japanese dubbed episodes despite not owning them originally. There was 12 episodes so 12 strikes all at once would nuke any channel

Then why doesn’t Sony behave the same way Nintendo does?

@Gunn We did it to ourselves for 50 years now to make a very long story short. But I'll just get in trouble for what I have to say since it's not PC.

@Star maker 75 Do you want to be slapped or kicked?

Yeah people were talking about Mario party and metriod dread but I have seen more people than usual keep talking about the expansion pack heck it even got the title of the most dislike nintendo video am not saying that your wrong but am saying that the hate for this controversy seems bigger than most other ones this passed years

@Mass Attack yeah the hate is increasing but slower than it should be

@Dan 379 Yeah you do have a point

GilvaSunner is gone and they appeased the masses with a Nintendo Direct announcing Xenoblade 3. Once again, the cycle continues.

@BlazingRoman yep

@BlazingRoman wait

and whats worse is its not evan a new mario party game, just another medicore remake.

Rise of the Mario's? I thought Smash was a Fire Emblem game?

But the one thing that's definitely worse besides all that is people using Iwata's death As an excuse in a disgusting and disturbing way. Sakurai mentioned that He doesn't like it when people use his face as an excuse so I'm guessing he doesn't like it when he sees people use Iwata's death as an excuse just imagine how sad he would be when he sees people doing it. I wrote a letter to Nintendo telling them about it and surprisingly they responded to me. I already made a video about it on my YouTube channel. It's all my most popular if you scroll down. But you are right there are amazing developers They don't buy other companies and milk them until they go out of business like EA or Disney They never listen to SJWS's or woke people or never do politics. I mean people need to see the truth and the reality rather than the whole DMCA drama that keeps happening. They need to see the actual truth Also Nintendo's no Activision hell they never treat their developers like crap. Nintendo is still a good company not the best company but a good company. Along with the letter I wrote them I also included a Mario fan art I made and surprisingly Nintendo said in quote they admire my creativity. I wrote that letter as a proof that Nintendo still listens to their fans and still cares about their fans. I just want this whole DMCA story to finally end. Including the entire hate. All we want is to move on.

@Joey Ford curious video you sent me there. I thought Activision Blizzard was the only one. I'm going to check it out

@Joey Ford "Oh no! People are rightly pointing out the flaws in the company I like! Quick! Distract them with another company I don't like!"

not maybe....they are the best by a huge margin

@M64bros In a few ways, they’re better than other companies but that doesn’t mean we should spare them because “Ackhtually this other company is worse.”

@draguO doT true.

Maybe not worse then Microsoft, Microsoft is not that good. I mean, I hate Nintendo too, I just hate Microsoft more for what they did to ps4 minecraft

And that dichotomy is why I, and most people, sadly cannot separate themselves from Nintendo. Also the fact that I only own Nintendo consoles. That's a pretty big reason too,

@SuomiPerkele Definitely!

@M64bros I hope that's sarcasm.

@Kurt Well basically it's My personal opinion and truth but I've already moved on from it.

@M64bros "my personal opinion" is correct.

"My personal truth" is not something you should say on anything.

disagree, a lot of nintendos games are not that good, and as a corporate entity i would not call them horrible since they do what a company is possible to do, make lots of money.

@V Games facts. It really frustrates me when people just blame me entire company including its developers that aren't the one is that actually did the DMCA strike. I rather blame it on the DMCA bot they need to fix. Another frustrating fact is they even use Iwata's death against it all. It's really sad and disgusting and something that should be stopped....😞

I totally agree with this.

Oh god.

Can't wait for 2024 so skylines can finally be legal in the USA...

Unlike Apple though, they make a good product.

and emplemon's avatar has nothing to do with lemons

Nintendo, in my opinion, is also like the MLB in a sense: shitty dude running the business, but still making a shitton of money, and producing decent games

You can say that about the big 3.

they hate fangames

@Gats T >good products
>$60 wii port

@Phanstalgia
Good for you, you made an observation people have been making for years now! You must feel so intelligent for thinking of that obvious thought! I'm so impressed!

Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game.

@Gats T The overpraise nintendo games get is also the result of the same zealous fans Emplemon criticises. Nintendo games are rated on far lower standards than every other game. Like Donald Trump v. Biden.

@Phanstalgia > decent products
> 60$ wii port

@Алена Макарова
Maybe so, but it's the games that make a console, not the hardware itself. Why buy a PS5 when, 8 months after launch, it only JUST NOW got a game worth buying? I'd rather stick with my switch, which can play games I actually care about, and I can take around with me. I do wish that it was more powerful, but there's nothing I can do about it. Hopefully, they will make a more powerful version sometime soon, because Shin Megami Tensei 5 looks too beautiful for the system to run at a decent frame rate and I want that game to be the best it can be!

Also the "FANS"

@copperCity17 Eh, agree to disagree. I'd argue that more for Sony games in fact. Games like God of War 2018 and Last of Us get by on their stories and graphics, in terms of actual gameplay they're mediocre at best. Nintendo on the other hand, may lag behind in graphics and sometimes stories, but in terms of gameplay, they remain king, at least in my opinion.

Only diference is that nintendo makes good games, and that i cant just go to playstation and get the sameish product.
Fucking Nintendo

I think they're more like Microsoft, their base product is good but they won't let you do anything to improve or customize it, you can only use it the way they want you to, hence why in Microsoft's case Linux is still widely used by professionals in the field.

I always thought of them as the Disney of the video game industry

@copperCity17 lol here we go again.

@Gats T how are the switch joy cons a good product? How do you explain the wii u?

@Gats T You're part of the problem then. Yes "Story" games do tend to get easy, but both Nintendo and "Story" get easy treatment for different. Except, as we saw with the Last of Us 2, easy treatment for "story" games isn't always guaranteed.

@Ace 29 actually that’s perfect. Disney is revered for their IPs and yet as a company they’re pretty shitty, kinda like Nintendo.

@Spanky Pants
Aside from the drift, which has been addressed already where you can send them in to be fixed for free, there really isn't any problem with Joycons. Hell, after I sent them to be fixed, I've yet to have a problem with them again, which makes me think they replaced the stick with a less cheap part to prevent future problems. Of course, that's just my opinion, I don't actually know if they used a better part or I'm just lucky.

A lot of people who work there like doing it not all of them are greedy also you don’t have to be a jerk about it, damn

@copperCity17
I'm a part of the problem for enjoying games I enjoy? It seems to me you're just hating the games that others like out of some need to stand out. I may not think Breath of The Wild is as amazing as it was on my first playthrough, but that doesn't mean I lack the capacity to make my own opinions on games.

I also see them as the Disney of Japan. You dare make any fan work of Mario and just Mario, you're done goofed in their eyes...

No.. NOOO!!!!

@Gats T yes! 😏

És tu

It isn't the " Law " it's the LAW. Plain and simple. You can't do what you want with a company product if they explicitly do not allow it or like it. That's why they've gotten or WOULD have successful lawsuits and have shut down their competition. So stop crying and get over it like the rest of the sheep that keep buying the shit they shovel.

@Gats T they make a outdated product that moght of been impressive 5 years ago.

YOOO TU ASSISTE EMPLEMON

@nightmare4lol Eh, guess I am in that case

@Robert Harris
Yeah, and the switch came out... 4 years ago...

@Gats T BOTW is literaly just a watered down copy and paste of assassins creed but with a legwnd of zelda coat of paint over it and nintendo fans act like its a brand new state of the art experience thats never been done before.

@Gats T lot less pretty then shit loads of upcoming PS5 releases. God of War destroys all, not even close. The releases are miles better then switch, especially since guess what, the games can have SALES, discounts, and worth while bundles. Switch games are horribly overpriced and pathetic, and look like SHIT vs raytraced PS5 games, lmao what a joke. Better off with a game streaming service from Xbox or Nvidia LMAO, talk about value and being able to play it on whatever, wherever(almost)

@Gats T yes. Not viewing a company and the products they make objectivly is literaly the problem with the casualization and reduction in qulity of the video game industry in the last decade+

@gasai yuno thats literzly not even true. As long as you make no money off of it you can do basicaly anything you want. Unfortunatly in ajapan the laws are ass backwards and the people there have basicaly no rights when it comes to copywrites.

@gasai yuno Just like when youtube bans people for stupid reasons or no reason, just cause a company CAN do something legally doesn't mean they should and it doesn't mean people should stand for it just because "well umm they're a private company, they can do whatever they want".


Also lmao you're so contrarian and edgy, it's not like people might just buy their games because they actually LIKE their games, right?

@GodZpeed X7 they're objectively shit hardware, look at the Wii It's hardware, or the original Wii, or the Nintendo switch being less powerful then a 2014 android smartphone. LMAO you're such a shill

@Robert Harris Yeah, that's not even remotely close to accurate, and I'd say given that statement you probably treat Sony like the Nintendo fanboys treat Nintendo.

@Gats T not really though, every good game on the switch is either a port or is borderline unfinished like acnh besides a few outliers like botw.

@Gats T 5 years from when they were released obviously... assassins creed 2 was made 12 years ago yet has better graphics(which i dont even say matter but still), gameplay, and story than BOTW.

@Robotic Venom The way you word your opinions says to me you're pretty young. It may come as a shock to you, but graphics don't make the video game. In fact, I'd argue they're the least important aspect of the medium as a whole. Gameplay is what matters most, and when it comes to Sony AAA games especially, that's the last thing they care about. God of War 2018 is a poorly designed action game, especially on higher difficulties, with boring, middling combat that couldn't hold a candle to even the WORST character action games. Go try Devil May Cry 5, its gameplay will blow your mind. Switch games may not look the best, or have raytracing, but they have good gameplay, and much more variety than anything Sony has had in its past few years. The PS5 is a mess right now, and it only sells because of hype and scalping.

@Gats T iv never owned a playstation. Theres no games they habe i want to play.

@Gats T Oh my lord, I can smell your unwashed neck beard through my phone

And for you that is brazillian knows that most of brazillians don't like Nintendo, to the point of despise it in comparison to PS and XBox. It is 10x more expensive to be a Nintendo costumer; harder, with less products available here.

You buy a Switch knowing all you are about to go through. Is unfortunate.

@Adin How is ACNH "borderline" unfinished?

@GodZpeed X7 Come on man, I like Nintendo a lot, but its got problems, just like any other company.

@GodZpeed X7 have you tried not being a fanboy and giving any objective proof to any statement?

That's because their games are incredible. They have made more classics than anyone else and avoid the trends

@GodZpeed X7 switch is better then what? 2014 smart phones?

God for war most definitely does, along with loads of other releases

você aqui?

@GodZpeed X7 I didn't say you did, but it certainly hurts the game LMAO.

How are they not overpriced? Some games are literally RESKINS yet they sell at full MSRP, and even old titles and such will have ludicrous prices. Again, they almost NEVER have sales, unlike PS5 games and Xbox ganes

@GodZpeed X7 how is a completely new titles a PS4 game? Explain to me how the new god of war or uncharted, is a PS4 game? You're literally making zero sense

Ta loco matt fazendo o que aqui kkk

@Robotic Venom Power isn't everything when it comes to consoles. The GameCube was the most powerful console of its time, yet it did the worst out of any of that generation, because it didn't have the games to back it up. The Playstation 2 was objectively weaker, but it's constant quality games and the fact that it could function as a DVD player made it sell more. Much like the PS2, the Switch has great games, and is portable, so you can enjoy those games anywhere, anytime. Just because it can't do raytracing or 4k doesn't make what it has worthless.

@Creepy Lobster if you hue shift emplemon's avatar to green (famously the color of the sempsins) it will be green, just like a lemon that's yet to mature

@GodZpeed X7 About as chill as anybody else

​ @GodZpeed X7 Here are a few overpraised Nintendo games or Nintendo games that have aged like milk:

Mario 64: boot-out system sucks. Imagine if in God of War 2018 every time you pick up an important loot-item your sent back to the bridge before you can finish exploring the entire level.

Ocarina of Time: Z-targeting combat is just really shitty Dark Souls lock-on combat. Puzzles are far more basic than they're hyped (*coughs water temple *coughs*).

Mario Odyssey: Very little meaningful content. The only game where Nintendo forgets their "4-step" rule to explore a gameplay concept, so it's basically a Ubisoft game reskinned as a Mario game, where the collectable feathers are moons.

Breath of the Wild: I actually really like this game, but it still has serious problems that are being overlooked. Too low enemy/gameplay variety. Armor is way too op (64 armor cancels out exactly 64 (weapon damage + goblin unarmed damage)). Dungeons (beasts / castle) don't scale with you. Weapon durability. Shrines are god awful, and they waste so unnecessary much time by NOT letting you make the choice for stamina/health right there in shrine.

@GodZpeed X7 prove anything youre saying.

@Gats T never said it was worthless, but given the online capabilities and game prices the switch is more of a sad value that they'd inject such hardware into a console, it's insulting.

This isn't the 2000's anymore lmao. It's literally limiting their own ability to add games, because that shit is so slow. They barely got Witcher 3 to work after optimizing it to the galaxy and back, and it looks like shit vs a basic console edition from 2012

Carai br aqui???

@Gats T you understand not being able to do raytracing or 4k isnt isnt peoples issue right? Its the lack of a decent frame rate. Which isnt a graphical issue but is a control issue. And other things like LOD distance.

@Robotic Venom You mean that because the games are $60 they're inherently bad? I agree that the lack of sales is not good for Nintendo, but that's because they know that quality deserves a good price. When a game goes from $60 to $20 in a matter of months, that just makes me think it wasn't worth what I paid for it.

Sony is more like the apple of vidya in my opinion

@GodZpeed X7 You seem to be a bit of a nitendo fanboy, but what are your thoughts of their objectively shitty business practices (like child labor to make the switch) or stupid public relations moves (discouraging modding and targeting content creators)?

You can blame americans for buying Apple everywhere else in the world the consumers actually have a brain

@Gats T a games value still naturaly declines over time...

@Robotic Venom nah graphics are not that important. a good example of this is the total war franchise, where a 20 year old game (med 2)has a larger multiplayer playerbase then all but 1(TWW2) of their other games.

@GodZpeed X7 yes there is. Games like doom have visualy noticable lower LOD distances. There is literal video and photographic proof of this.

@Gats T I'm not here to argue anything but it's very ironic to see one of you here, in the comments of this video

@Gats T they make a good product for the absolute dogshit hardware limitations they set on themselves because they don't want to go for other platforms.

@GodZpeed X7 So you are saying that disallowing modding and other content creation (at the expense of the creator of the content not nitendo) isn't a shitty business practice? Your turning away free publicity and publicity matters. Id argue that's why ultimate has been so succesful. Mods boost games popularity to veteren gamers. it helps keep a title interesting until the next title is churned out. That's an objective fact.

zelda and mario are amazing games. nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2.

@Gats T Your bias is showing

Oh shit we just saw fanatics having meltdown in this reply section.

Unlike Nintendo though, Apple doesn't misuse their fandom to the same extent.

At least Apple doesn't copystrike videos on it's products and pay attention to details while also making a good price to features ratio that beats Samsung.

@GodZpeed X7 If bias means I think less lazy and low quality products are better, then I'll take my "bias" as a compliment

@melvin storbes Apple does copy strike videos on its product and they don’t pay any attention to details and they do make good prices to features ratio unlike Nintendo. Fact.

@Phanstalgia Nah you’ll take the bias as an insult because the shit you’re saying is factually false

And it’s funny how you keep mentioning Nintendo as if they are the only ones when Microsoft and Sony do the SAME THING you claim Nintendo allegedly is. Note I said ALLEGEDLY

I’m going to say one thing and then I’m leaving out here.

I don’t care what kind of bullshit you people always want to say or try to do, Nintendo is a great company that has great games, great hardware and has a respectable fanbase and they don’t always have the most loyal fans as there are many fans who are more loyal to their brands and they do some shady stuff too.

Nintendo is a gaming company through and through, they’re here to make great games, release good hardware and make a profit and there is nothing wrong with that. Every video gaming company is doing that and I don’t see any dislikes from them.

Only shows how biased people are because they really don’t want Nintendo to succeed.

You guys are hypocrites and nothing you say or do is going to change that fact.

If you really want Nintendo to stop their "business practices" then how about you first stop whining online because all of that whining is not going to do anything.

Stop acting like Nintendo is the one with bad practices when EVERY company like your precious Microsoft and Sony have bad practices that makes Nintendo’s look like an everyday jog.

Nintendo isn’t a bad company.

This is an objective fact. I’m out.

ooh thats random u beeing here love ur vids

@GodZpeed X7 ok, I may have been a bit harsh on that comment. But doesn't change the fact they make bad decisions.

That's the thing,they will earn money doing whatever they want because at the end of the day,they are Nintendo,big fan also.

@David Singleton Yes it does change the fact as MANY COMPANIES SUCH AS MICROSOFT AND SONY MAKE BAD DECISIONS

@David Singleton Also thank you at least you admit yourself being harsh that’s fine.

They're a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney without really taking anything good from them (which already wasn't a lot to begin with).

@Pedro Henrique Dos Santos Vales So does Microsoft and Sony and they don’t get crucified for it.

@Gats T You see. Your not wrong.

@Sho They aren’t a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney and there ARE many good parts and there were and still are that many to begin with

This is just gold saw one fanboy having pure meltdown and reply to almost everyone even if it's not even part of the argument.


And huh interesting liking your own multiple account...Ironic

@Gats T even ps vita is better than switch
You know why psp still can be a good choice?
E M U L A T O R S
Better games, more games, same mobility
It can run even your nintendo 64 garbo tho

@Алена Макарова actually the switch is very good for the price.

@GodZpeed X7 ignoring the fact that consoles are the reason why games are shit now, switch is still unaccessible shit that turns you into slave

@Gats T ...no

oi Matt! :) Jamais pensei que ia encontrar um Youtuber BR por aqui mas é uma ótima surpresa!

Unlike Apple, their products are actually good tho...

@Ardalido's foundation PS vita isn’t better than switch and PSP still isn’t a good choice and emulators doesn’t make it a better console

@Ardalido's foundation Switch isn’t unaccessible shit unlike Microsoft and Sony’s PlayStation and Xbox

@Ardalido's foundation Yeah no the switch doesn’t turn anyone into slaves. If you actually think that, you need to go see someone

@Tonysk830 Yes

@Loser LW No

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@GodZpeed X7II and yet you are still doing it. You can't lie old man

I think Nintendo is more like Disney with their family friendly image complete with a mascot that dresses in red and has a high squeaky voice. As well as their iron fisted grip on every single piece of their IP, no matter how obscure or forgotten.

@Phanstalgia hey, they never said all of their products were good. I can think of numerous examples of soulless dogshit that they make. See: modern pokemon games, modern paper mario, """"remakes"""" that are really just ports with slightly updated graphics, and the shitty switch hardware that constantly breaks.
What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out.

Or the Walt Disney Company of videogames, even way before WDC became a thing. Given Nintendo's ancient history.

@GodZpeed X7II dude are you ok? You sound like someone who's being held hostage by Nintendo

@Gats T Nintendo has never once even been competent when it comes to stories. They have held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium for decades at this point.

When their flagship JRPG is POKEMON, the only JRPG known for having terrible stories and alien dialogue, there is an issue. You even mentioned SMT, you can't play that series and think Nintendo has decent stories. It is like comparing caviar to dog turds.

@GodZpeed X7 Nintendo has the weakest hardware on the market. They never put their games on sale. They specifically try to lock you out of any console changes or letting fans interract with the product. And are the most anti-consumer AAA company in the market currently.

@GodZpeed X7 Also, no Nintendo game is ever reviewed on for the basis of its story, its visuals, its refinement of gameplay ideas, and it is pretty much never compared against its competition because Nintendo fans play nothing else.

Play any other Monster Catcher JRPG and then tell me Pokemon is amazing. Play Celeste and tell me Mario is a meaningful platformer. Play Ori or Hollow Knight or Axiom Verge and tell me Samus Returns isn't dog sh"t. Play The Witcher 3 and then tell me BotW is a more meaningful and lasting experience.

@Gats T Play New Leaf then compare the list of features and characters.

@GodZpeed X7 And that is gross misinformation about The Witcher 3. It can't even maintain 20fps in cities or some of the most common areas in the game while old consoles don't have that issue. It also caps out at 720p and both doesn't stay at that resolution most of the time and has worse looking textures compared to any other release of the game. The Switch is a glorified Ipad in terms of power and no one expects the Witcher 3 to even be playable on an Ipad. Yet for some reason Nintendo fans still think it is acceptable to play a masterpiece on a sub-par console that can't even run it properly.

@Davethe3rd Nintendo doesn’t have an iron fisted grip

@Angry Pepe They aren’t soulless dogshit dude. Modern paper Mario, Pokémon aren’t bad. And the switch hardware isn’t shitty and doesn’t constantly break

@Angry Pepe They don’t crank out any dogshit. Most of the time they crank out great games and good hardware

@Chad J. Roberts Nope

@DaddyPlsNo Nope

@Cyrus Stryker It isn’t accurate

@Haruhiro Grimgar Nintendo has ALWAYS been competent when it comes to stories and you’re wrong for even thinking otherwise

@Haruhiro Grimgar They have NEVER held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium and they never did it for decades as they excelled in that

@Haruhiro Grimgar Pokémon does NOT have terrible stories and alien dialogue.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no you can play SMT and factually state that Nintendo has great stories

@Haruhiro Grimgar Never have they ONCE tried to lock you out of any console changes and never stopped fans to interact with the product. That’s all in your head

@Haruhiro Grimgar Also no they are NOT anti consumer unlike Microsoft and Sony. And they are NOT the most anti consumer AAA company in the market as again Sony and Microsoft would like to say hi

@Haruhiro Grimgar I will say that Pokémon is amazing, Mario is a meaningful Platformer, Samus Returns isn’t dogshit and BOTW is a more meaningful and lasting experience. This is fact no matter how much bullshit you try to spout

@GodZpeed X7II Provide me 5 examples of excellent Nintendo games in terms of story. And it has to be Nintendo games.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no. I’ll take New Leaf anyday compared to the bullshit you’re saying. They have a good list of features and character. Accept it

@GodZpeed X7II Are you sure now, they have a section in Universal Studio's Japan based on one of their IPs?

@Haruhiro Grimgar It is NOT gross misinformation about Witcher 3. Yes it CAN maintain 20 to even 60fps

@Haruhiro Grimgar No it CAN maintain 60fps in cities and the most common areas in the fake and no, old consoles DO have that issue

@Haruhiro Grimgar It doesn’t cap out at 780p and both DO stay at that resolution most of the time

@Haruhiro Grimgar It does NOT have worse looking textures compared to any other release of the game because the textures are actually better

@Haruhiro Grimgar NO ONE is saying they expect Witcher 3 to run on an IPad and that comparison doesn’t make any sense. And no Nintendo fans have a good reason to factually say it’s acceptable to play a game (that isn’t even considered a masterpiece by many) on a hybrid console that has great power

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no it isn’t a sub par console and it CAN run properly. Everything you said is factually wrong

@Random Yeah no I’m actually the one who’s being factual while you’re over here spreading misinformation. No you can’t count any number of polygons in an average switch game.

@Chad J. Roberts Dude no false

@GodZpeed X7II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_World

@Gats T Malfunctioning joycons are not worth 80 federal reserve notes, just as their busted online service (which ate ass even back to the Wii when it was free) isn't worth 2 Andrew Jacksons per year.

@Gats T "The GameCube was the most powerful console of its time". Nope, the Xbox was.

I'm not going to argue about it here, but emp should've touched on Nintendo fans and their awful revisionism when it comes to Nintendo's place in the history of video games, and how their "fans" have paraded a lot of BS about the company. Be it the actual hardware prowess compared to their past competition (which in some cases DID affect the libraries of the console), or how they "SAVED THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY FROM THE CRASH THAT KILLED ALL VIDEO GAMES" in the mid 80s. I think this revisionism has partially played into the undying sycophantism with the company in the present.

@Sagivaleon the guy seriously must be a basement dweller or some shit, i can smell the grease through my screen.

I hope he is baiting

Except they don’t torture their employees

@GodZpeed X7II  And You couldn't even name 5 Nintendo games and multiple games you mentioned have the most minimalistic story possible.

Xenoblade & Super Mario RPG weren't made by Nintendo. Just published by them. Saying Nintendo games have good stories and then citing a game made by Square Enix is as disingenuous as you can get. If you want to say Nintendo consoles have games with good stories and writing on them, that is a very defensible position. There is a reason the 3DS is known as a JRPG machine and it is not because you can play dogsh"t Pokemon games on it. The GBA and DS also have incredible 3rd party libraries from studios who rely heavily on their writers (Xseed, Atlus, Square Enix, etc.)

Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the entirety of the majour story events told within the game. Everything else is just killing meaningless mute bosses and running around.

Earthbound was released a horrifically long time ago that Nintendo treats as an embarrasing mistake they don't like to mention outside of Smash. But it obviously resonates with many so I will give you it.

Star Fox 64 and Ocarina of Time has an incredibly weak story and set of characters/dialogue. There is no majour philosophy themes between or motivating characters. There is a reason Link is known as "Hyah boy" and the only lines of dialogue and story immortalized amongst Nintendo gamers from Star Fox is "Do a barrel roll" and "Slippy needs help." Otherwise the villains have no motivation beyond "I am evil" or "I want to rule the universe for no particular reason." The heroes don't have any strong motivators other than they want to "stop the bad guy." And neither game even has humour or drama to rely on. What is there to hold onto, what is their to gain, what is there to learn from in these games?

if you're talking about jailbreaking, they never managed to get around it and turn it into a law and it even turned into a special exception that says "yes, you can jailbreak your idevice"

@Robert Harris actually zelda botw has nothing to do with assasins creed. It was made by the zelda team and the xenoblade team. They had a bigger inspiration on xenoblade chronicles x than assasins creed. The only thing they eventually take inspiration in assassin Creed is the towers that reveal the card system.

Nintendo is the Disney of videogames
They’re allowed to pump out a stream a shlock and have hypocritical views on copyright because people liked them as kids

This comment section is weird man

@Gats T the only reason they offer joycon repairs in a select few regions is because they had to dodge a lawsuit

@Robert Harris bruh that's gotta be the stupidest take i've ever seen

@GodZpeed X7 Dude many of your arguments on this entire comment section has amounted to dead air as you make a bunch of claims without backing them up or doing the equivalent of "lalalalala I'm not listening" I am a fan of Nintendo and is able to realize its faults just like everyone else here and if you're going to ignore them at least listen to another fan.

Wii U:
Hate to break it to you but In terms of power, Nintendo has been behind Playstation and Xbox for YEARS now. If the Wii U was good then why did it sell poorly and it's exclusives couldn't save the hole Nintendo dug for themselves. The biggest thing that keeps Nintendo on the map at this point are they're damn good exclusives and those who worship Nintendo. I know that power isn't everything but to pretend the Wii U is beyond criticism is ludicrous.

Stories:
Speaking of stories only a few nintendo games with memorable stories are thought of today. Even then besides Mother/Earthbound, and Zelda to a lesser extent (Kirby is more of a game with extensive lore instead of thrilling stories) they often immediately cower with the thought of a more story based game come the next installment.

Fanbase:
The Nintendo fanbase can be far from chill. Look at the Pokemon Community after Sword and Shield. Both sides of the argument went rabbid over each other. While Gamefreak pretty much went off scott free despite some of the shadier practices and how Nintendo has unintentionally bred a culture of complacency. Hell the fact that you're going into threads and doing what you are doing right now to defend Nintendo shows how they aren't "Chill". In fact it's gone past pre-fallout 76/4 Bethesda Fanboy in how much praise and defence Nintendo gets to the point where I can see them coming out with their own Fallout 76 or Mulan 2019 without a hitch. The Smash Community is still apart of the Nintendo community no matter how you slice it an there has been a list of sins they have done ranging from sexual misconduct, to harassing a fan who wanted a character to be in Unltimate to the point of suicide as if we are the Steven Universe fandom.


Price:
In terms of pricing Nintendo definitely has a problem with overpricing. Before all of the updates Kirby Star Allies was basically unfinished and thus wasn't worth $60. Pokemon Sword and shield base game costs more than its predecessors yet has less polished content that its predecessors boasted yet somehow is asking for more money for DLC one of which is mediocre at best while the other one is onto something.

On the other hand, Skyward Sword HD is starting to look like it's making minimal differences and a quality of life change behind a $20 piece of plastic which seemed ok...until Sonic Colors Ultimate was revealed being priced the same as the original but is having more content, apparently some remixed songs, a collector's edition that adds only cosmetics and a keychain How in the hell is Sonic Colors Ultimate a game being handled by SEGA a company that has been licking its death bed for years now able squeeze out something like that while Nintendo one of the richest companies in Japan of all places can't do a better job.

Outside of that you have their older games that still can be seen in retail stores for their original prices.

Modding:
Modding is rarely crucial to a game's success but they tend to help in ballooning its popularity. Minecraft and Skyrim are a testament to that statement. Minecraft wouldn't have put on the map if it weren't for YouTubers and the modding scene. Skyrim and Oblivion kind of necessitates a mod to fix many game breaking bugs while also having many anticipated mods that if they turn out to be what they are promised could be as big as a triple A game. Hell mods are why Skyrim is still being talked about (that and the many essays condemning the game for being shallow but whatever). There hasn't been much info on The Elder Scrolls 6 so modding is the next best thing to keep people's mind off of the game's unknown release date.

SEGA was in a bad place after Boom so the fact that they hired many indie modders of their games to make an official game helped put SEGA on a slow recovery point. Modding and games have a symbiotic relationship maybe a game can survive without modding but a modding community is basically free advertising especially since all mods required a purchased copy of the game to use.

Publicity:
If you knew anything about the realm of media then you do know that publicity is everything. If you can't maintain good public relations ESPECIALLY if you're a new company then expect to go bankrupt in a matter of time. Sure many companies have reached a point where public relations aren't an end all be all but they weren't like this from the start. And I guarantee if they pulled the shit they do now back when they were new then they would have died out or in some cases be lawfully shut down. Publicity is especially important for Indie creators as even the smallest of allegations could cause your image to bleed to the point of little recovery.

If you're going to be this defensive about Nintendo, at least be coherent and provide better examples dude.

@Gats T not to be bias but i swear some companies do better than apple in making phones, computers, tablets, and even earbuds. i like the macbook and others like thinkpads for example right, not everything apple does is "good". music related stuff on the other hand is why i stay with apple (not saying im a fanboy here btw) for my use.

Nintendo won the switch console than their DS line so they should try to support the switch as much to giving fun, i can tell they’re behind on specs wise than their games.

I see Nintendo as the Disney of Japan, was part of some of the greatest things but is also one of the worst offenders regarding consumer respect.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is a meaningful platformer

@Hellafraid God no. You can replace Mario with a red circle or the Dunkin Donuts logo and nothing changes. You can change Bowser for Ganondorf, Peach, or a twig and nothing changes. You can change Peach to be Daisy, Rosalina, a bra, a f"cking rock and nothing changes. There is no exploration of themes or philosophies, no characters to connect with, no majour story elements or events.

Every person who tries to defend Mario I meet in person I offer $5 if they can describe any level in detail. And none are successful because Mario is the most forgettable type of game and series. If it wasn't for the lobotomites that never grow up after playing his games his series would be lost to time out of the collective consciousness.

@Haruhiro Grimgar I find it funny that earthbound is mentioned when Mother 3 is clearly one of if the most meaningful Nintendo story

@GodZpeed X7 Jesus Christ, you're the real deal, huh? I thought you were just shitposting and trolling people.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is the funny sounding italian stereotype who jumps on poop colored mushroom monsters and fights a giant dragon (who has a boston accent in the game about global warming) on a regular basis in the acid trip landscape that is the mushroom kingdom (where hills literally have eyes and mushroom people get turned into bricks on a constant basis) because they both have a crush on the blonde haired air head. He rides dinosaurs, is sometimes a furry, can shoot fire balls when he eats flowers, has gone into space twice, is good at basically every sport and has his own board game. He is "the" Mickey Mouse of the gaming industry, is an awful brother to Luigi and is a casual gamer's franchise of choice due to the accessible gameplay and difficulty of (nearly) every title in his franchise. Also, he races in go-karts sometimes with his friends, enemies and baby version of himself, and he gets kidnapped by a ghost every now and then so his objectively better younger brother (who actually has some sort of personality) can come and rescue him.

Where's my five dollars?

@copperCity17 That wasn't even the point of the video, the vast majority of products are good, it's just that the fans are oblivious to their trashy business practices.

Still better than Video Brinquedo

It's just like my favorite pop culture mathematical equation: Disney + Apple = Nintendo.

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Frighteningly accurate

@internet traveler They don’t have hypocritical views on copyright and no, it isn’t because people liked them as kids. That could be said for every company

@internet traveler That isn’t the reason dude stop lying

@TricksterCJ I’ve read your comment and I have to say: Everything you told me was factually wrong.

If you actually had a decent amount of comment sense then you would realize that all of my arguments on this comment section has amounted to actual facts because never made any claims and I DID back them up while you and your friends here are lying to the extent where you aren’t even that close to telling facts.

Yeah no, majority of people here aren’t Nintendo fans and are mostly haters wanting to bash on a company that has done nothing wrong and if you're saying that I’m ignoring them then you seriously don’t understand anything.

Wii U: Yeah no in terms of power, Nintendo has been matching Playstation and Xbox for many years. Also the Wii U sold poorly because the media spread misinformation about the product. Dude third parties finally had an HD console which has been stated by developers that it’s like developing for an Xbox 360 so I know your argument is false.

Exclusives DID save it and Nintendo didn’t dig up any holes. They are a billion dollar company and for you to say such bull is the reason why the community dislikes you today,

No the biggest thing that keeps Nintendo on the map are many of their games. No what’s ludicrous is that how the Xbox and PlayStation gets a save even though their hardware are just watered down PCs and it’s no wonder why there are so many PCMR people out there mocking PlayStation and Xbox players.

Stories:
Again this is where you’re wrong, many nintendo games have memorable stories that still being discussed of today. Kirby is a game with extensive lore AND thrilling stories.

They don’t cower with a thought of a story based game considering the fact that it isn’t always about story. It’s about PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME.


Fanbase: Dude I don’t know where you’re getting this from but it’s obvious that this isn’t true. The Nintendo fanbase is one of the most tamest fan bases to ever exist.

Both sides of the Pokemon community didn’t went rabid over each other. Gamefreak didn’t have many shady practices and Nintendo didn’t breed any cultures of complacency.

Yeah no, just because I’m here defend in Nintendo doesn’t show how they aren't "Chill". The majority of Nintendo fans are more chill than the minority of the rabid ones.

It was NEVER pre-fallout 76/4 Bethesda Fanboy and so what if Nintendo gets a lot of praise.

Dude Nintendo is not going to make a Fallout 76 or Mulan 2019 and for you to actually think that is completely false.

The Smash Community isnt much toxic no matter how much you want to try and say.

Dude those are SOME examples compared to the majority of people who don’t act like that at all.

Price: Nintendo has no problem with overpricing considering MANY COMPANIES like Sony and Microsoft did a lot of overpricing too.

Kirby Star Allies was NOT unfinished and it WAS worth $60 no matter what your mind tries to tell you.

Pokemon Sword and shield has more polished content than its predecessors has DLC has always been around like this so what is your problem? No it isn’t mediocre.

Skyward Sword HD will always have a much more quality life change than Sonic Colors ultimate and you are wrong on those levels.

Sonic Colors Ultimate doesn’t have more content, their songs aren’t remixed that much considering the fact that I doubt people are going to listen to their songs, also cosmetics and a keychain doesn’t make a product with value.

Dude Sega was never able to squeeze out something like that and Nintendo always did a better job than Sega did.

Most of the older games don’t always have their original prices so you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

Modding:
Modding doesn’t always help in ballooning a game’s popularity.

Minecraft and Skyrim are NOT a testament.

Also no dude, Minecraft was already doing fine as it was before YouTuber and modding came on the scene.

Skyrim and Oblivion kind of didn’t use a mod to and the games doesn’t have many breaking bugs.

Their mods are NOT highly anticipated and they will never be as big as a AAA game.

Mods are NOT why Skyrim is still being talked about, the game is popular enough to be talked to many people.

There’s been info on The Elder Scrolls 6 and no, modding is NOT the next best thing to keep people's mind off of the game's release date.

Yes SEGA was in a bad place after Boom so hired many indie developers to make an official game which proves they’re lazy.

Modding and games have no relationship and yes a game can survive without modding and can do extremely well without it and dude a modding community is NOT free advertising and all mods don’t require a purchased copy of the game.


Publicity: Yeah no if you knew anything about the world we live then you should realize that publicity is NOT everything.

Nintendo already has good public relations and again, they’re a billion dollar company that isn’t going to go down any time soon.

No they WERE like this from the start.

Yeah no companies did the stuff they do now back when they were new then they still wouldn’t have gone out nor shut down.

Publicity is NOT always important for Indie creators also dude you can blame the cancel culture for allegations, do you not realize what world we live in? Any type of stuff you do be it good or bad or a misunderstanding of a innocent could cause ANY image to bleed. Look at what they did to Projared.

I have provided way better examples than you ever did and how about a tip: The next time you decide that you’re going to attack Nintendo, how about you have a little thing called: Common Sense. You didn’t prove anything and everything you said was wrong while I said everything factual. Get out.

@Flaming Cheeto puff They aren’t behind specs wise

@Nero Bernardino They aren’t the worst offenders regarding consumer respect dudd

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no, replace Mario with anything and you’ll see a change

@Haruhiro Grimgar There ARE major story elements and events. Dude look at Mario and Rabbids and then come back

@Haruhiro Grimgar Everyone who defends Mario with facts can debunk you many times and you found the wrong people. MANY are successful but you haven’t found the right people to talk about which is pretty biased to your argument

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is NOT the most forgettable type of game and series because the MAJORITY of people will recognize Mario and nobody has ever forgotten him sense. This is proof that I know you’re lying because if he was the most forgotten then why do the majority of the world know who Mario is, know what his story is and know what his games are? Shows that you don’t know anything about Mario

@Haruhiro Grimgar They didn’t have any lobotomies about growing and his series wouldn’t be lost to time thanks to the majority of people who recognize Mario and still does to this day

@4nt Dude I ain’t shit posting. I’m stating facts

@TricksterCJ Earthbound is the most meaningful Nintendo story

@4nt Mario is NOT an awful brother to Luigi. He cares about his brother and it shows like in the Mario and Luigi games he shows a lot of care for his brother. No he is every gamer’s choice

@Thatnoobcheezy The fans aren’t oblivious because their business practices aren’t trashy

@Loopy Loon Not

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Nope

@AsianJackass No it isn’t ripping off

@Haruhiro Grimgar I highly disagree with your replies regarding Nintendo games stories, they do have tried to tell different stories a few times with some of their series while some of them actually try to tell a story in every installment. For example, the Mario series have actually tried to tell a story in the RPG games and I’m not talking about the one Square developed, I’m talking about the ones Nintendo did develop like the first three Paper Mario games that actually try to tell a story using Mario characters. As for Pokemon, yeah they never had a complex story to be exact, but I heard that generation 5 did have interested moral themes regarding the world of Pokemon (though technically Gamefreak are the developers of Pokemon). I’m not saying they have the most complex stories ever told in video games but saying that Nintendo has never tried to tell a story and that they “harm” the industry by not telling them is just a straight lie.

Some user above in the replies already gave more examples of Nintendo series that actually try to tell a story in each installment. They also mentioned why story isn’t always a priority when making a game and gave DOOM as a good example.

By the way, I’m curious why you would consider Celeste to be above the Mario platforming games, sure indie games like Hollow Knight, Cuphead and Celeste have been capable of outdoing AAA games but Mario? Nowadays the 2D platforming Mario games may be weak and I can agree that Celeste is better than those, but I think is an exaggeration to say that the Mario series as a whole is bad. There is a reason why Mario is the most popular video game series and in terms of quality the 3D platforming Mario games are definitely the peak of the franchise, Super Mario Galaxy is pretty much the Magnum Opus of the franchise.

@4nt Mario being an awful brother is kind of a thing in the past, Luigi definitely has a less generic personality though.

@TheJuado Mario wasn’t an awful brother to Luigi, that’s a false misconception. Also Mario has a less genetic personality.

@TheJuado 2D platforming Mario games aren’t weak and I disagree with that

@GodZpeed X7II aww the soy boy is mad that his company can be criticized

Nintendo to me is the souls Apple and Disney fused together into the body of a vicious oni

@Robotic Venom I remember being 14 once.

@Dakota Andrews no. It has climbing. Parachutes/gliding. Open world colectables. Dungeons you go into for a special reward at the end. A wide array of weapons which you can aquire from the enemies you kill. Crafting. And thats just what i can think of that assassins creed did first off the top of my head.

@GodZpeed X7II Didn't I type "one of the worst offenders"? Won't scroll through 303 replies to see if I did it or not but that was my intention at least.

@UncannyEXP theyre literaly a money hungry that gives subpar products to a group of people that were raised onthem and thus have low standards. just like apple.

I care about their PRODUCTS, not "fan content".

@Wandering the Wastes xbox developer hub exists

@Robert Harris horizon zero dawn

@Robotic Venom the ps vita is extremely underpowered if we compare it to the switch

@Robert Harris botw is more cartoonish and the story is really good to be honest the Graphics are definitely better than AC2

@GodZpeed X7 I mean the ds was a shovel ware palace but ok

@Robson Lana eBay

@GodZpeed X7 I'm not trying to be mean but you kinda do sound like a fanboy and this is coming from someone who has 3 Nintendo consoles and 1 Sony Console

@BobaDaFett the ezio games have one of the best storys in a video game... and BOTW simply has a more styalized art style so graphic fidelity isnt as noticeable.

@Robert Harris its nothing like assassin's creed

@Alexander Post No they aren’t

@Robert Harris All of that is false and neither of that was created by assassin’s creed

@Nero Bernardino Dude no

@BobaDaFett No

@BobaDaFett DS was never a shovel ware palace dude

@BobaDaFett No I’m not a fanboy, I’m a dude who’s tired of the anti Nintendo bullshit

@Robert Harris The ezio games have some of the worst stories and no. BOTW has the best art style and the best graphics

@Robert Harris Yeah no graphics fidelity IS noticeable. You never played a Nintendo game in your entire life

@Luis Alfonso Pinto THANK YOU! Finally someone said it!

@GodZpeed X7II Mario being an awful brother is sort of implied but it’s mostly just hypothetical stuff, not that it matters cuz that’s in the past, in newer Mario games he has shown to be a good brother.

In terms of personality both of them are very simple but that is not a bad thing, though Luigi does talk in the Paper Mario games which show a little more of a defined personality.

I should have specified with the whole “Celeste is better than 2D Mario games”, I was thinking of the “New super Mario bros” series in which the modern games are kind of bland, at least there is Mario Maker which is pretty good.

The main point of my reply to the other user was how he was devaluing the Mario franchise as a whole and calling it “forgettable” which is far from the truth, it’s just that there definitely are some good indie games that can compare to AAA games, not just Nintendo. Anyway the 3D Mario platforming games are some of the best games ever made imo.

@TheJuado No it was never implied. In many Mario games he’s shown to be a great brother

@TheJuado Just because Luigi talks doesn’t mean he shows more personality.

@TheJuado Nope. The NSMB games are better and the modern games aren’t bland

@TheJuado Not really Nintendo

@TheJuado The 2D and 3D Mario games are the best

With all due respect, I'm just overall more interested in what Nintendo offers than anyone else, but it is not an endorsement of their shitty practices. I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company, that I can assure you of.

@GodZpeed X7 Ask Me. Did You Watch The Whole Video

Most Of Them

@Gats T you forget bloodborne and HZD exists you Nintendog

@SoulfulCabbage
Bloodborne is a dead ip because Sony basically told the developers behind it to fuck off so they can focus on western games, and I've never really been a big fan of HZD. I like very few open world games, so it's just another to me tbh.

@GodZpeed X7II man you went out tha ballpark with the trollin

@Gats T your point may ring true to a lot of people - and I respect that - but for some, graphics happens to be the main aspect of a game that sparks interest. I know several people, myself included, who preferred some obscure mobile games to serious titles on PC and consoles not because of price or availability (as some were quite wealthy), but solely for the appealing imagery and visual style of the games. To say that gameplay is the only important component of a game is to deny that games are aesthetic experiences too. I, for one, don’t think I’ll ever pick up anything from Nintendo since I do not like how any of their games look, and unfortunately, no amount of gameplay smoothness or story depth makes them more appealing to me. On the other hand, LIMBO and Monument Valley will firmly remain on my phone, even though I’ve completed them all ages ago.

@Gats T no amount of good games make me want to put up with this kind of nonsense

@GodZpeed X7II Then I suppose we both can agree that Mario is a good brother to Luigi, I was just pointing out what some people say about him being a bad brother despite him not being bad anymore.

About the NSMB games I don’t think they are bad but it would be cool if they tried something more interesting with them, the 3D Mario games have done a very good job with this cuz games like 3D world and Odyssey have differences but maintains the soul that Mario games have.

@DO-CTOR Nintendo doesn’t have shitty practices

@Eva Sackaton I watched the video and it’s complete garbage and wrong

@Eva Sackaton SOME of them

@wackyclock No I didn’t, all I’m doing is stating facts

@Andrei Rachko Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does

@Andrei Rachko Nope all of that is false. Most people will pick up things from Nintendo and it is not denying. Graphics don’t matter when the main aspect that sells is GAMEPLAY

@Darkzeroprojects Yes it will and it isn’t nonsense

@TheJuado Dude Mario wasn’t bad to begin with. That was only in people’s headcanons when in reality Mario is a great brother

@TheJuado Nah. 2D Mario games will always have the soul that is Mario

@Andrei Rachko Nope. His point ring true to all

@Andrei Rachko This is a fact like it or not: Graphics do not make a game, Gameplay does and it is the only thing that matters. Gameplay is the main point of the game. Graphics aren’t. If I want to look at pretty pictures then I can go see a movie or look at art. Gameplay is the most relevant thing since it’s called a VIDEO GAME. Graphics are only there to show the game. The gameplay is the main focus. This is a fact. Everything you said is false while everything me and Gats said are factual.

@GodZpeed X7II I am glad you’re agreeing with me on this: the majority of players may indeed enjoy gameplay more than other aspects of any given game, but there’s always a large and active minority of people to whom graphics are key. Finally someone understands. Cheers! :D

@GodZpeed X7II That’s why I am saying that the whole “Mario is a bad brother” is mostly as you said, a head canon by other people, I don’t think he was bad so I pretty much agree with you.

Mario 2D games do have that “soul”, I just wish the newer ones took more risks and brought more new things like the way the 3D games have been doing.

@Gats T For me its mainly the overall things in it.
Not just hardware but the features and the "services" provided with exclusives if a console.
And tbh the big 3 kinda lacking in areas.

Sure Nintendo has alot of First party but its of the same overused Ips of Mario,Zelda,Pokemon,and previous gen games like Splatoon or animal crossing.

Sure they dont demand high money for paied online but its lackluster net code and locking peer2peer isnt worth it.
Also only allowing rent of re released roms.

Sure they're switch systems are more affordable but they're also cheap feeling imo and their joycondrifting nonsense isn't helping.

The prices of their games just is frustrating when others lower prices after a games been out for 4 years.

And their behavior to fans like to this video shows is what I kinda dont want to give money for.

@Gronn yes good games of quality..
However I don't think they're good to the point of enduring what they do .

@Darkzeroprojects I mean yeah, for example the online is shit and expensive so i dont buy it, or the mario 64 sunshine port that was super overpriced.
But for other more complete games i think its worth the price

@Gats T lmfao miyazaki hates making sequels. He was contracted to do 3 games for Namco within the DS series. Sekiro isn't getting a sequel and bloodborne too because of Miyazaki. Do some research first before making dumb assumptions

@Αντώνης τ And those who will still buy regardless of how they're treated.
And why Nintendo and other companies will keep getting away with it.

@Gats T Aside From NIntendo Games What Did You Think About Emplemons Video.

@GodZpeed X7 Its Both

@GodZpeed X7 Dependingly

@Eva Sackaton Good video overall. Nintendo makes great products, but because they're an old Japanese company, they're always gonna be behind other companies in terms of policy. I do really hope they get some new blood in to change things though...

@Dakota Andrews Im 14 Trying To Understand Things

@GodZpeed X7II

Look at you this is pathetic

If The Wii U was just as powerful as a ps4 or Xbox one then why were games that were ported to Wii U often a downgrade in graphics and framerate. Plus misinformation wasn't the actual crux as it was the confusing marketing.

If the exclusives saved the Wii U then why was the Wii U quickly abandoned for the switch the second it eclipsed the Wii U's sales. Nintendo wouldn't go tooth and nail just to port over most of the Wii U's exclusives to the switch if the Wii U wasn't a huge flop.

In terms of stories, Kirby stories always had stand out moments but at the end of the day Kirby stories are extremely simple.

And yes stories aren't everything but when you're going this far to defend these stories and say their amazing I have the right to criticize that notion.

Nintendo has backpedaled with stories before whether it's losing the full voice acting from sunshine, to not having an interesting story in Galaxy 2 up until Odyssey after the first one was kind of on to something.

I'm Terms of community you proved no point but my own with your "these aren't fans they are just haters wanting to bash Nintendo for no reason" Gatekeeping bullshit. wake up dude this video lists some of Nintendo's hostile actions against people and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

I was going to continue but you really aren't worth it especially since your examples are the equivalent of saying "no they're not" without saying why they aren't.

Go outside and stop it

@Gats T "Unlike Apple though, they make a good product." joycon drift anyone?

@Caden Tannery "Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game." no?

@Gronn "Only diference is that nintendo makes good games," yea right, that's why they keep releasing/making lazy mediocre games like
Mario kart 8,
all the new sups games,
mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,
paper mario color splash,
paper mario origami king
mario and luigi paper jam,
mario party 9,
mario party 10,
super mario party,
mario party the top 100,
mario tennis ultra smash,
mario tennis ace,
mario sports superstars,
yoshi new island,
luigi's mansion 3,
and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Hereward so you like lazy mediocre games like,
Mario kart 8,
all the new sups games,
mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,
paper mario color splash,
paper mario origami king
mario and luigi paper jam,
mario party 9,
mario party 10,
super mario party,
mario party the top 100,
mario tennis ultra smash,
mario tennis ace,
mario sports superstars,
yoshi new island,
luigi's mansion 3,
and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Geeeee8 "That's because their games are incredible" games like
Mario kart 8,
all the new sups games,
mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,
paper mario color splash,
paper mario origami king
mario and luigi paper jam,
mario party 9,
mario party 10,
super mario party,
mario party the top 100,
mario tennis ultra smash,
mario tennis ace,
mario sports superstars,
yoshi new island,
luigi's mansion 3,
and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Robert Harris " a games value still naturaly declines over time..." what? no, how?

@coned "nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2." oh, please get your head check if you actually think like that.

@Mario Adventure 2 so joycon dirft is good then?

@Angry Pepe "What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out." so they are just like most other companys then.

@V Games Wow, what a completely original and unique observation

​@Haruhiro Grimgar "Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the entirety of the majour story events told within the game." thats only ture on some level, samas did spare the Baby Metroid when it mistake samas as its mom, i have not played Super Metroid so please don't attack me.
also don't tloz skyward sword/tloz majora's mask and tloz twilight princess have good stories?

@4nt "is an awful brother to Luigi" not this bad agreement again.
"he gets kidnapped by a ghost every now and then so his objectively better younger brother (who actually has some sort of personality)" you mean luigi the guy who's only personality that his a coward and a crybaby?

@Thatnoobcheezy " the vast majority of products are good" not really?

​@TheJuado "I’m talking about the ones Nintendo did develop like the first three Paper Mario games" Nintendo did not develop the first three Paper Mario games, intelligent systems did.
"but saying that Nintendo has never tried to tell a story and that they “harm” the industry by not telling them is just a straight lie." i agree.
but I think is an exaggeration to say that the Mario series as a whole is bad." no, most Mario games are trash.
"There is a reason why Mario is the most popular video game series" yea, the reason Mario is the most popular video game series is because his fanbase worship him and his games without checking if the games are trash or not, because the games are made by there god and saver Nintendo.

​@TheJuado "Mario being an awful brother is sort of implied" where and when? "In terms of personality both of them are very simple" can list what both of there
personalities are?
"I was thinking of the “New super Mario bros” series in which the modern games are kind of bland," i agree.
"Anyway the 3D Mario platforming games are some of the best games ever made imo." i disagree, i think that Mario games have some of the worst gameplay design ever made, but if you what to know why i think that you can just ask me.

@GodZpeed X7II Nope, The NSMB games are hot garbage.

@DO-CTOR "I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company" Nintendo don't care what you think so long as you keep buying there stuff.

@V Games it's not lazy lol.

@GodZpeed X7II "Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does" so why did the will u fail then?

@Gats T "Nintendo makes great products" no again?

@copperCity17 🤣

@Hereward so you admit then that Nintendo games are bad?

@Gats T what was my completely original and unique observation? i can't find it.

@Geeeee8 yes, most Mario games are lazy, how about you give me a actual counter argument for why mario don't suck?

@V Games what am I gonna do convince you? They're extremely well made and designed. There you go. I don't care what games you like.

​@Geeeee8 "They're extremely well made and designed." no, Mario games are way to easy and they love putting bottomless pits/instant death when ever they can.

@Phanstalgia >60$ wii port that locks fast travel behind a 5$ figure

@V Games Late reply but I’ll answer some of your points.
The Paper Mario games were definitely developed by intelligent systems, saying that Nintendo developed them was my mistake, I kind of got carried on with that statement cuz intelligent systems only develops games exclusively for Nintendo.
About Mario being an awful brother it was kinda true for the earlier games were Mario seemed to lack gratitude for Luigi but this is not the case anymore cuz his relationship with his brother is much better in the newer games.
As for their personalities, I said they are simple so I didn’t feel the need to define them, Mario has an heroic personality and Luigi is a coward but is always willing to be heroic when it’s necessary, so yeah they have very simple personalities it’s not that most Mario characters were complex anyway.
The rest of your statements seem to be about your opinion on the Mario series as a whole, so I will give my take on it. The Mario series has its amount of good and bad games, whether you like them or not is another thing but in my replies I was not just talking about my opinion on the quality of the games but I was also talking about the reception the games get by the public as a whole. Even people who aren’t fans of the Mario series have a positive opinion of the games. However not everyone will like them and that’s fine but I don’t like how some just say that the games are trash cuz of the fanboys that act like Nintendo is some sort of flawless company. There are Mario fans that complain about the quality of some of the newer games like the case of the Paper Mario RPGs.
I also find a lot of Mario games to be disappointing, and seeing your replies we both agree that the New Super Mario Bros 2D games are bad, frankly I only liked the DS and the Wii games of that series. When it comes to the best Mario games I think that most of the 3D platformers and the early RPGs are the peak of Mario games, though I’m not saying that just because I like them but also cuz a lot of people consider them to be great games to the point that there are non-Nintendo games inspired by them, a lot of 3D platformers games take inspiration from the 3D Mario games, there even are games that take inspiration form the early Paper Mario games.
Anyways that’s my take on it, sorry if the reply feels long, but it’s fine if you don’t like the Mario franchise.

​@TheJuado "About Mario being an awful brother it was kinda true for the earlier games were Mario seemed to lack gratitude for Luigi" so mario not having gratitude for luigi equals him being an awful brother? also why should mario have gratitude for luigi when in canon mario's the hero for the earlier games and luigi was not until luigi's manson? also in which games did mario not show gratitude for luigi?
"but I was also talking about the reception the games get by the public as a whole. Even people who aren’t fans of the Mario series have a positive opinion of the games." i think thats because they copy what ever the critics think and they think that mario is the god of all platformers imo.
"but I don’t like how some just say that the games are trash cuz of the fanboys that act like Nintendo is some sort of flawless company." agree these people are trash for thinking that fans make games bad somehow.
"When it comes to the best Mario games I think that most of the 3D platformers and the early RPGs are the peak of Mario games," agree.
"to the point that there are non-Nintendo games inspired by them, a lot of 3D platformers games take inspiration from the 3D Mario games, there even are games that take inspiration form the early Paper Mario games." there are?
"Anyways that’s my take on it, sorry if the reply feels long," i don't mind long replys.

@Gats T Pssssssssst. You can do just as much if not more for hundreds of dollars less with the Commodore 64 competitor. :)

@V Games In some of the earlier Mario games Luigi was occasionally used for a joke scene, I’m referring to the first Paper Mario game and the first Mario and Luigi game too, though Luigi also had the role of the hero in the latter. Rather than a lack of gratitude is more of Luigi being seen as the “less important brother” but I suppose this isn’t exactly Mario fault, plus there are a lot of examples of Mario being a good brother in newer games so the whole argument of Mario being an awful brother is pretty much dead, and I prefer it that way.
There are people who definitely copy what the critics say and these are the type of people I ignore when trying to find out what is the general opinion on a game. I listen to people who don’t have a bias towards a game and actually know stuff about it.
There are games that have clear inspiration from Mario games, though I should say that the “there are a lot of them” statement was an exaggeration from me, but I think that it’s no doubt that 3D Mario had an impact on 3D platformers, and yeah, there are a few indie games inspired by Paper Mario.

​@TheJuado " In some of the earlier Mario games Luigi was occasionally used for a joke scene, I’m referring to the first Paper Mario game" when and where?
"and the first Mario and Luigi game too," funny you say that, since in the first Mario and Luigi game both of the brothers get made fun of pretty much the same amount times, it was not until bowser's inside story where luigi was treated as a total joke.
"Rather than a lack of gratitude is more of Luigi being seen as the “less important brother” i mean, Mario is the hero more times then Luigi is, so it makes sense.
"but I think that it’s no doubt that 3D Mario had an impact on 3D platformers," ture.

@V Games After seeing the scenes in which Luigi appears in Paper Mario I realized that he barely got treated as a joke so I got it wrong, so yeah even in the latter Paper Mario games Luigi doesn’t seem to be treated as a joke other than the occasional “look at this funny situation Luigi got himself in” scene.
You have a point on the Mario and Luigi games, I should have realized that Mario also gets made fun of in these games.
You also have a point with Mario being seen as a bigger hero than Luigi cuz the former has more adventures.
Seeing this whole argument made me realize that the whole “Mario is a bad brother” statement barely has any evidence in not just the modern games but the old games too.

@Phanstalgia so good products and crappy service
{insert GabeN quote here}

Just want to give my opinion on this, 4 months later lol. Nintendo is overhyped and their games are overpriced for their value at times. The anti-consumer practices they do and the absolute "bend-over backwards" mentality the fandom has is laughable. The Switch, it's an ok console, nothing too spectacular. The handheld feature is perhaps the main selling point of this console but the framerate is ass, the Joycons are terrible and too small, the screen sucks, if you drop it once or twice something ends up breaking and the lack of games it has.
The joycons are too small and barely functional at times. I have very tiny hands and they barely fit the things comfortably and even though you can get them fixed for free, that's still not an excuse. Did everyone forget how we had to pull Nintendo's teeth to get that to happen? The multiple class action lawsuits and them constantly denying there was a problem?

I get that the switch is mobile and it comes at the cost of power but come on. If it was the first "day one" model then I'd be fine, but they've been pushing the same base model for almost 5 years now. Each "model" is literally the same console with slight differences, like the OLED or the Lite. It just feels cheap when I hold the thing too, like I can easily split this thing in half. Every single game I play has some type of framerate stutter, freezes, or has input lag combined with the shitty U.I, the abysmal Eshop and the lack of basic features. And the Online, THE ONLINE!!!??? I don't think I need to talk about that mess or why it's bad but 18 year old infrastructure???? The damn thing's a legal adult. There is also a function in Splatoon 2 to check and see if it's running Windows 98, Like What???


Paying full price for decade old titles, making some of them timed exclusive or the just lazy 3D All-Stars port, The awful online experience that has nothing of value but games that are a decade older than me that I can emulate with and have a significantly better experience, on my phone no less.
Personally, this is my opinion. Nintendo hasn't been good since the Gamecube, when they actually had competition. The Wii does has amazing titles and gems but most of it was ass. Most of its library is just shovel titles and the motion controls barely worked for most games that had them. The Wii U suffered from a lack of support and retarded decisions on Nintendo. The Gamepad was a terrible gimmick and a huge turnoff.

And the way they treat their fans would make EA blush. Constantly spitting in there face, shitting in there cereal and They just eat it up. What's with this braindead argument I see against fangames. Sure they have the right to take down anyone of them but is it morally right? If the fancreators aren't making any money off of them then why should it matter? "ThEy NeEd To PrOtEcT ThE Ip", well what about mods then, The modding community has been routinely beaten down into oblivion just as bad as the fangame community by Nintendo. And if it was for the sake of protecting the IP from "fan game creators" Then what about SEGA or Bethesda then? SEGA actively lets their communities use their IPs as long as they do not profit from them, and that community is flourishing to the point where there are active Conventions and Competitions held about fangames (Sonic Armature Games Expo AkA S.A.G.E) or how about Fallout or Skyrim fans building whole new worlds and Using the Bethesda creation engine which They've allowed them to do. Sure They have the Right to copyright and DMCA fangame creators, but it isn't morally right. How is a simple fan game made by 3 devs not even doing it for profit going to harm a Billion dollar corporation? It's going to harm the Nintendo Seal of Quality? It's not the fucking 90s anymore.

@Friendly Astronaut I agree with almost everything you said, though I’m wondering, what’s your opinion on Nintendo portable consoles like the DS and 3DS? You said that you think they haven’t been good at consoles since the GameCube but I’m curious what you have to say to the portables. Personally I feel that Nintendo never fell off in the portable consoles market though nowadays that market its pretty much dead so I think the 3DS was a good console to end the portable era, Switch doesn’t count cuz it’s an hybrid.

@TheJuado Oh there portable handhelds department was pretty good, thought they went a bit over board with all the DS models, it was like a new DS every year lol. Not many companies catered to that department which allowed Nintendo to basically have a monopoly. I think it was a good era. The GBA was great, the DS was decent, tons of shovelware and blatant garbage though it has alot of hidden Gems. I do think the 3ds is underrated and at the same time overrated, very similar to The PS Vita; Its a good console, almost worth picking up. Its got solid titles, decent ui, backwards compatibility, and customizable, but it's not worth $300+. It heavily lacked 3rd party support and as it went through its life span, 1st party as well; the 3d gimmick was, i think, useless and annoying, the circle pad should have been a joystick, and like the DS, Too many models. If you can get one for lower than $100- $200, its a steal. I agree that it was a good console to end on, was it perfect, no, but what it did, it did right.
I thinks its interesting to look back on these guys. I doubt we'll ever see them again too cause they were made obsolete by phone and appstores. Since phone now powerful to the point where we can emulate N64, Dreamcast, and gamecube plus Appstore titles and whatnot, I think it was good to end on the 3DS. Other than the shovelware problem and the many many almost confusing/useless models, I dont think there was a problem with there mobile department.

@TheJuado Sorry for the Second comment lol. Just elaborating on some points
The GBA, personally, the best handheld and I, consider up there with the best consoles ever made.


I do think people give the DS more credited that it deserves, maybe due to nostalgia and its wild success. Like I said in my original comment, it had a shovelware problem and an issue with 3rd parties ports to the console. It's still a good console with excellent titles, if you can find them, especially with the DS Lite.

The 2DS consoles didn't need to exist at all. There was no point in them, a waste of development time/money and I think its funny how people just forget these guys even exist lol.
The problem with there handhelds is there are too many unnecessary revisions that released within a year of each other: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL to the 2DS, 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DSXL, 2DSXL. Way too many for average consumers to get or understand, plus most of these revisions where just bigger screens

@Friendly Astronaut I see, I agree that Nintendo released way too many “new versions” of the same console which could make things confusing for people who weren’t informed on these consoles.

I share the same opinion as you on the portable consoles, though I personally never saw them as overrated but I can understand what you are trying to say. Setting aside the shovelware these consoles still had good libraries, GameBoy, DS and 3DS, all of them were good with a few shortcomings.

Even though Nintendo did have some sort of monopoly in that market I think that they left a good reputation for portable consoles even if that market doesn’t exist anymore.

Anyway I don’t mind long replies as long as they are well structured like yours, it’s always good for me to see people who can appreciate portable consoles

@TheJuado Thanks, It seems that we agree on most things then. It was actually kinda fun talking you. I could have worded the monopoly part better but it seems you understand the point lol, I'm a bit sick so my thoughts might have been jumbled a bit. The "overrated" thing may have been an over exaggeration on my part. It was mainly due to posts and articles I've seen comparing the Switch and the 3DS, seeing which is the better console. I still think the OG DS is a bit overrated, not too much, still a great console no less, getting past all the shovelware and bad ports, you find actual Diamonds and Gems, it's great. Nintendo's mobile era is something I didn't think I'd enjoy talking about.

@Friendly Astronaut Yeah I always thought that Nintendo did really good on their portable consoles despite a few shortcomings (like things that you mentioned such as shovelware and bad ports). Regardless of that I think they left a good reputation to portable consoles to the point that when people remember that era of video games people will have good memories on them, not just Nintendo portables but also PlayStation portables too cuz these were also good in my opinion. Anyway, it’s always good to have a friendly discussion.

Or like the Disney of videogames.

@Creepy Lobster That's a truly dogshit point.

@Wandering the Wastes quite a late reply, but microsoft actually allows you to mess around with your xbox quite a lot with a 20 dollar dev account (even run nintendo emulators on it)

Tehc Studios well, Linux allows you to do it for 0 (since they acknowledge you as the legitimate owner of the OS and device and won't charge you for what's basically the software equivalent of opening the hood of your car) so it's not much of a comparison is it?

@Phanstalgia Bias towards liking video games that are traditionally very well liked? That's pretty silly, you have to admit.

I personally see them as more like Disney. People love their content and they have a massive empire in their own spheres (Nintendo with games, and Disney with movies, TV and theme parks). Both are extremely belligerent about copyright, evoke feelings of nostalgia for many people, and spit on their fans despite relying on them. They even both have a "black sheep" that's absolutely amazing that they only pay lip service to occasionally enough to make the fans think "HOLY SHIT THEY'RE BRINGING IT BACK LET'S GOOOOO" but then give them nothing else (Nintendo with Mother and Disney with Atlantis. Nintendo put Lucas and Ness in Smash, and Disney just released a Kida doll. Besides that we get nothing.)

@Gats T >good products
>$60 wii port

@Phanstalgia Alongside good games

@copperCity17 It's a bit higher than Decent

@BiIvaMunner Which game are you talking about?

A game like Mario Odyssey is definitely not good.

@copperCity17 Well, that's just your opinion.

@BiIvaMunner Yes, it is just my opinion. You can use that defence for anything in life. It is just a bunch of scientists' opinions that the Earth is round. How do you know that the sky is actually blue?

Eventually, you're Rene Decartes. But what's the point in that?

@copperCity17 That's a totally different story.

A quality of a game is not the same as an actual fact on the state of the Earth.

@BiIvaMunner You missed the point. Saying "that's just your opinion" is where any and all media discussion goes to die, and then corporations become eternally happy.

In the wise words of Jay Bauman from RedLetterMedia, "Don't ask questions. Just consume product, and then get excited for next product"

@copperCity17 I'm not a bootlicker.

But fine. Mario Odyssey can be criticized and disliked. Saying that it's objectively a bad game is where you are incorrect.

@copperCity17 I'm not saying that negative Odyssey discussion is bad. The way you went about it, your tone was "Odyssey is a bad game, and if you think otherwise you're a suck-up."

I'm sorry if I tried to downplay your Odyssey criticism, but you can't objectively say it's a bad game.

@copperCity17 The fact that you immediately jump to that overused RedLetterMedia quote tells me who you are.

Look, I'm sorry I shut down your criticism, but I wouldn't call Mario Odyssey an objectively terrible game.

@BiIvaMunner Sure thing, Dr. Freud.

@copperCity17 Do you actually have an argument?

@BiIvaMunner The "this random thing tells me exactly what kind of person you are" shtick is kind of cringe.

I don't remember what I said about MO exactly (i don't think it's terrible now), but I do strongly think it's a severely overrated game. And I believe part of the praise MO got comes from people's over-infatuation with Nintendo.

@copperCity17 Okay, that's more like it.

It's still subjective, but I'll let you voice your opinion on it.

@Gats T my fella, i know you comment is old now, and you (probably) changed, but you are making the same mistakes like the ones before you, ya'know, like a cult

@V Games The baby metroid hatches in Metroid 2 and comes into play for Super Metroids story which takes place directly after 2

@TTTY 224 thanks for the info, oh tho i have no clue which of my comments your replying to because of how big this comment chain is "was it something about Nintendo games not having any story?"

@V Games I believe it was just a factual correction on something you said regarding super metroid, though I'd disagree that all Nintendo games have shit stories

@TTTY 224 fair and thanks for the info.

Very apt comparison

Valve: Nice Quake mod! Would you like us to hire you to port it to GoldSrc? (QWTF -> Team Fortress Classic, anyone?)

i got a roblox place deleted for trying to make a robloxified version of mario 3D land

And what about a barely upgraded model of their console with a slightly better screen selling for almost the same price as a Steam Deck (a full fledged handheld PC)

The video got ratioed to all hell, its also lesser impact as it is completely optional

@Pax Mayne and the fanboys continue to compare it to the ps vita as if that's the highest bar the switch can ever set in 2021

@Nighttale233 The Vita still had more bluetooth features and backwards compatibility options at launch, so the switch loses on the launch as well lol

not to mention a nintendo 64 emulator that is the worst it's ever been, even when you compare it to other similarly bad ones like the Wii U

Yea that was egregious.

@Pax Mayne fun fact the nvidia chip that the switch uses is from 2015 and is supposed to be shut out of support in 2023 so Nintendo instead of thinking about finding a new chip to maybe use for the oled model they changed their mind and kept the old chip anyways but decided to order 30 mil switches which is just sad because that means the switch will probably die at 7 years old while the ps4 and ps5 will basically be outliving it

@Nighttale233 The vita was unironically underrated. It may have had no games, but is a very cool piece of technology. I just homebrewed my brother's and it makes for a cool little emulation device. Even plays PS2 games.

@Mrthenekin at least the wiiu one let you map buttons

Nintendo: "How bout another barley functioning online service fans"

@Bob Snob I still prefer the psp tho lol

Especially if it's Nintendo and you don't own them

At least with stuff like LoA, they're showing that they're listening and growing, and this is when you take into account that sword and shield made a lot of money, so they didn't just do it because of a financial deficit. Still dislike game freak, but Nintendo is worse.

And the nintendo community keeps aging like a carton of milk left outside.

Nintendo fans litteraly similiar with your average questionable mobile game companies fans like the notorius 3N and Mihoeyo litteraly have no backbone and tried to generalise and attack their own community as coping mechanism. This video will keep age like a fine wine and hell thr current BF2042 shit show still prove Emp's point.

@Imperion 02 namm man

You mean Viacom flashbacks?

Make another video bro

Munkey Jones

I'm starting to wonder if people don't realize you can have flashbacks without having Vietnam PTSD. The phrase "Vietnam flashbacks" is so weird.

@Pill Grimm I think they do realize it's possible, but it's just become a meme in the internet to visualize PTSD easily through the hell that was Vietnam

@A Possibly Heretical Alpha Legionnaire exactly. “Vietnam flashbacks” is just a phrase when used on the Internet (most of the time) meant to exaggerate your bad memories, nothing more

Bro same. That clip and the "Well that's not exactly true." clip are classics

How many times will this notion go on?

1.- Melee tournaments and the fanbase divide the attention towards Ultimate, which is their "latest" Smash that is still being sold. Nintendo literally has nothing to gain from Melee being around and do not want to remotely support them due to various reasons (using copied versions of the game), hacking the game with Slippy, their constant non-esports and immature actions (Smash tourneys being considered smelly, throwing crabs at people, etc.) and again, no profit incentive.
Nintendo literally has no reason to remotely care about Melee and its audience.

2.- Fangames literally take from the original source for free. They are not just going to hire every impressive game team because as a company, they have to discuss and approve every project, so just saying "Yeah, champ. Let's rerelease Super Mario 64 with mods together!" isn't going to happen if the board does not think SM64 or any other fan game project won't sell or if it interrupts the success of other products.

3.- Mother 3 will never be localized because of the touchy elements ( drug scene comes to mind) that are in there. Unless it is getting remade, the original GBA game will never, ever be localized.
If censored or altered significally, will it even be worth it anymore? Just use an Emulator.

4.- Mario 3D All-Stars IS the definitive versions of those games officially. It does not matter how good the Spyro or Crash remakes are since they are NOT Mario.
Mario's games are more valuable in the market than most of Sony's mascots combined. The Prime minister dressed up as Mario, the Kansai airport has Mario welcome you to Japan, Mario games STOMP most if not all of the mascots from other companies.
There is no reason for Nintendo to suddenly remake games that are already valuable and "good" as they are.

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

But it is how the laws work and, unless you change said laws, you can't do anything about it. They will be well within their rights to take action if that is what they so desire.

It is. Infringement upon a company's copyright policies, no matter how strict, is illegal.

It IS how the law works.

@Andy Blanton
I agree, Rosa Perks was at fault for disobeying the LAW.

@Actic correct

SOME FOLKS OF MINE

@Andy Blanton Hope you dont have any online account without your real name, as thats also against the law

@Vitorruy1 as a matter of fact, Andy is not my legal name.

Sword and shield were reused concepts from a full fledged Pokémon console release for the n64, that’s why the trees look like shit.

Also, so true

What were the Pokémon Go pandemic changes?

@Henry Nelson Being able to interact with Gyms/Pokestops from further away. More pokemon spawning in general. A box with free items that appears once a day in the shop, an field research task every day without having to grab one from a poke stop, and remote raid passes. I think remote raid passes were the only thing that was gonna stay because they could make money on those.

"Of course we'll try to keep the pressure on. We're at war here."

And it's also harder to wake up that giant, and also affect Nintendo. Firstly, imagine how much you'd lose out on if you did a total Nintendo boycott. That means no Mario, no Zelda, no Pokemon, no Fire Emblem, etc. And secondly, Nintendo is likely much bigger and much more ignorant to fan complain than Niantec, so you'd probably need, like, 50% of all nintendo owners to do a permanent boycott to make a difference,

Not yo defend SwShit. But Assfreak makes the pokemon games and TPC signs off on their yerrible games, nintendo just has a publishing deal. I hope the gen 9 games that were announed are going to be better and actually include all the pokemom, but I'm cautious

the only reason the fanbase is mad over smash having to many Fire Emblem charcters is because they look very anime and people love to get upset over that for some reason.

@V Games Fire Emblem has 8 characters, and the series is not big enough to warrant a character count like that. Mario, Pokemon, Zelda and Animal Crossing all have individual games that have outsold the entire FE series combined.

You'd find a lot more satisfaction playing with actual children. Like I do.

@EndLaiser I'm calling the cops

@EndLaiser what the fuck

@EndLaiser
I don’t think it’s a good idea to hang around kids my guy.

@EndLaiser HOLY SHIT MY GUY!

The cool part is the disliking worked for halo

ikr The only "legitimate" way to listen to Nintendo's music scores is through their very limited CD releases. Mind you, these releases are far from readily available, given that they are special edition runs through Nintendo Power/Club Nintendo catalogs. Used/new-old stock of Nintendo CD soundtracks are stupid expensive. On the other hand, music companies have plenty of movie soundtracks available to download digitally, and even at my local Sunrise Records they're practically giving them away because nobody buys them.

I mean if they released game soundtracks even as digital-only purchases, I’d wager that they’d make some profit off of that. I am no economist. But still, I mean come on, you’re missing out on a profit there, Nintendo. Not to mention how scummy their current practice is.

it's even worse with earthbound. sony owns the rights to the soundtracks of the first two mother games, and since sony is notoriously more stingy than nintendo when it comes to music, people lately have been getting videos or even entire channels taken down just for having earthbound music. if nintendo owned the rights to the soundtrack, it would still be crappy for sure, but at least it'd be merciful in comparison to sony's death sentences.

For real.

It’s only within their rights under the law.

@Robert Wyatt Yes and? Is there a fourth power we should be concerned about that also dictates rights?

@This dude comes in and he says yeah it's called morality

@tsundereCat [TC] I like how more people shit on Nintendo about copyright ownership enforcement when we have Sony over here keeping games from other companies existing because the music is theirs

@Beanoptodon"I'm gonna ignore what Nintendo does because I'm a baby and this company does the same thing as them" If a dog shits in 2 different rooms, does that make one shit more important than the other? no! theres still shit in either room. Open your eyes

@This dude comes in and he says Yeah. Me.

@Spanky Pants Oh yeah? Where can i look at these universal moral guidelines? I'd argue that it's immoral to waste your time with complaining about a toy manufacturer instead of caring about your loved ones or contributing to society.

Like Gilva_sunner.

I just never see anything about how bad Sony is about their copyright holding, is all. I hate anti-consumerism, and Nintendo is one of the poster children of that. I'm not blind, I didn't expect to have to explain that on THIS VIDEO

As such, I've turned to the side of high quality rips.

Same

Really wish I could more easily listen to the Splatoon OST. But for some reason Nintendo can't be bothered to put it along with the hundreds of other songs that are in their games onto Spotify

like this is such a good point

nintendo would make probably MILLIONS off of uploading their soundtracks to streaming platforms, valve literally did that for tf2 and dota songs and have made millions of listens off of it

@Spanky Pants Corporations like Nintendo are amoral and should be treated as such. They'd sell you if they could and there was profit in it.

Yeah, I really liked their FE tracks. Especially Three Houses. But Nintendo just fks itself and its fans at every turn.

whats the problem? all you have to do is own the game in question(may cost several hundred dollars, depending on rarity), have the working hardware to play it (owning an original console/crt or having the correct upscalers, or an increasingly rare nes/snes classic) and then listen to the tracks you want when you get to that point in the game (its not so hard if youre a pro gamer like myself)

Nintendo has existed since the 1800s. I really wanna see some Nintendo wwii propaganda

Just like Raiden from MGS said: "Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right."
I'll take this as a fucking mantra for the rest of my life.

Right. Just put the soundtrack on Spotify or something

I had a good few Mk Wii songs on my playlist just to find out that all of them were blocked :(

Square Enix and SEGA have most of their game soundtracks on Spotify. Nintendo doesn't outside of like two games.

It's honestly so hard to even like them, they're stuck in the stone age with all these oxymoron level choices that can't even keep many fans satisfied

I still have that CD Nintendo power gave out for free with the orchestrated melee soundtrack. Thank God Nintendo didn't send a swat team to my house when I saved the songs to my family PC.

This is what bugs me the most tbh

Namco literally uploads their soundtracks to their YouTube channel I think, I don’t see why Nintendo can’t do the same.

Music is very powerful. They probably know that you can convince a person to buy a product just so they can hear a track again.

It's within their rights but it shouldn't be. Copyright law is bullshit.

There is actually a channel for ripping music from videogames, the name is SiivaGunner

dont forget that mario 64 has the entire soundtrack on spotify

Literally as a electronic producer I want to sample more Nintendo ost so bad to pay respect but Ik the consequences to that can’t imagine how it is for a fan who made a game on there own I’m going to start looking at Nintendo more critically

Exactly! I don't give a rat's fuck if it's right legally, it's still wrong morally and from what i can tell almost every video game company on the planet agrees and doesn't do this shit.

@Alan Chavez 🙄

Take a drink every time gilvasunner was nearly erased

Nintendo really brings out the hardcore Lawful Neutral in people.

@Spanky Pants The law does not dictate morality. There are countries where murder is legal under certain conditions. Sometimes straight up human sacrifice for religious purposes. Are those things moral? Even though they're legal?

@This dude comes in and he says even laws get argued and interpreted in different ways, so yes your argument is invalid because you alone do not decide whats immoral, our society does, just like our legal system writes and interprets out laws, which are not universal.

Its legal but have some human decency

@tsundereCat [TC] who cares about sony stop shifting blame this video is about nintendo

Such great soundtracks too

It’s the same situation with the Dragon Quest music, why can’t Koichi Sugiyama just put the soundtracks from the series on ITunes?

Because many other companies are doing it.

They have the control. And you don’t even realize it.

The point I am trying to make here is that companies nowadays are collecting our data for targeted advertising and more nonsense, one day they will sell those to our governments and you won’t be safe anymore.

I was lucky enough to get a copy of the Majora's Mask soundtrack for dirt cheap, and that's the only official Nintendo soundtrack I've ever been able to obtain.

i heard people take copyright pretty seriously like even a lot of fans don't support piracy or reuploads

Idk why they’re not like Sega or Capcom where they have all of their soundtracks up on Spotify and other streaming services. But knowing Nintendo, they’d probably pull a Disney+ and have their OWN streaming service for music. Except it’s only Nintendo music, it plays at 128kps or lower, you can’t download for offline and oh, can’t forget a $15 a month price tag for that bad boy

@Earoist Well I looked up “Nintendo World War 2 propaganda” and unfortunately I didn’t get a cool history lesson but I DID find some really awesome fanart

@HeadLessToYall WARREN! There was a rapper named Young Gravy who had a song called “Mr.Clean” Now in the original version of the song there is a Super Mario World coin sound effect that’s only used ONCE throughout the entire song. Seemingly as I was listening to the song again a few years later it appears as if that coin sound effect is taken off the song. Replacing the sound effect that’s meant to act as an adlib with the instrumental. What I can assume from this is that Nintendo probably sent a cease and desist from that 1 sound effect they used and that’s why this new version of the song sounds a bit awkward around that part. So no, Nintendo won’t let you sample their library even it’s a 1 SECOND SOUND EFFECT

Yeah, Now I can't listen to the ocarina of time and black and white/black and white 2 OSTs

If I were to change anything about copyright law besides factory resetting it to the original timetable (hard capped at 28 years) it would be adding an availability clause where if it's too difficult or outright impossible to acquire something legitimately it becames fair game for piracy, and the rights holder has say a year or so to make it available legitimately before it becomes public domain regardless of how much time is left on the clock for the copyright.

AND THEY SOUND SO DAMN GOOD TOO! If I wanna jam to paper Mario music, I should be able to!

@Big Crunch people dont complain as much when any other company dose shit like this care to tel me why are is it only ok since Nintendo dose it thru American voted laws

@Viktor Gabriel Americans never voted for laws like this just FYI, our corrupt government was just told by the corporate overlords to implement them and what we actually want didn't factor into the decision at all. In fact those of us who were aware of what was going on spoke out against it and were ignored, most people are too ignorant or placated with bread and circuses to notice or care though, and controlled opposition, so called "bi-partisanship" means that no matter who we vote for the corporate overlords remain in power and their abusive power grab laws remain in place even when nigh unanimously despised!

@HeadLessToYall WARREN! is it paying respect if you know they don't want you to do it? this is some twisted logic man

@Quantris I meant more of I like the soundscapes of most Nintendo ost like the xenoblade ost

What you just expect Nintendo to not make a profit? You should be thankful that you’re even allowed to buy their games! They should be charging 2-3 times what they charge, because people will pay for it. They’re nice enough to make it affordable.

This sounds like Communism to me! You don’t want them to make any money, you just want everything for free! You’re just attacking a wonderful company who out of the kindness of their hearts, with no concern for profit, create jobs. You should be grateful for that! After all if you keep attacking them the may just completely shut down and then you wouldn’t have any games!





I hope everyone knows I’m being sarcastic...

@Spanky Pants Morals?!? Sounds like Communism to me! What you want them to not make any profit? You want them to shut down? They create jobs, and allow you to buy their games, and you want them to go bankrupt because you hate capitalism! We should be paying much more for games! People would still buy it, and they’d be able to create more jobs, and the games will be much better!

@present Exactly! Thank you! These communists just want everything for free. Corporations are so benevolent they create jobs, and allow you to buy their products, with no concern for profit.

This is what happens when you don’t teach kids that corporations are your friends and are here to help the country.

@KFC Jesus_ZRDR_DelRio That’s basically theft! I hope the authorities find you! You’re the reason Nintendo has to do things like this.

@John Clark you speak some mad facts John

never forget that where possible, companies will prioritize control over profit, out of some fancy that if nobody can have it, some day they can strike it rich having sole ownership of it when the time is right. they're banking on the day Mother 3 receives demand from every human on earth and they can make billions off its release - if that never happens they are happy to throw it in the garbage, as it is worthless to them otherwise. a product some people want isn't worth the sacrifice of making it easy to get and losing the ability to harness some magic one in a million chance to control something highly wanted.

@This dude comes in and he says And yet here you are complaining about some people complaining instead of caring about your loved ones or contributing to society

@tsundereCat [TC]
How the hell does Sony own Earthbound music?

@EspurrsEyes42 it's a very weird situation. nintendo does not fully own the rights to earthbound, as shigesato itoi also owns it himself. this means nintendo does not fully decide what can or cannot be done with the ip, and is the reason why things such as the hobonichi mother project exist (hobonichi is itoi's own company). when the soundtracks for mother and mother 2 were released, they were published under sony's label, which means legally sony owns the rights to both those soundtracks, or at least the rights to distribute it. either way, they've been claiming, striking, and deleting videos/channels for using those songs. mother 3 does not have this issue, as that soundtrack was published under itoi's own label.

i'm not the most well versed when it comes to legal issues such as this, but hopefully this cleared up some stuff.

With the odd exception of Kirby: Planet Robobot.

@Frostflame and mother 3

So don’t run ads on their music, same as any

@This dude comes in and he says You're wasting time complaining about someone wasting time complaining about a toy manufacturer. If his position was so pointless as to be immoral, what does that make you?

and when you consider most non-Nintendo game music is allowed on YT, really rubs salt onto the wound.

You're talking about a company that also refuses to archive older titles and make them available to an audience of dozens of thousands of fans worldwide, just because they don't really feel like it.

@BadJumpCuts You'd have a point if, unlike him, i claimed to be morally sound.

@Dru Nature My argument would be invalid, if the laws of the free market and copyright do change according to "society's morals", so remind me again in 5, 10, 20 years, if Nintendo was forced to prioritize "ethics" over profit, even though there will be absolutely no incentive to do so, if people continue to buy their products anyway.

Plus, most of the soundtracks are pretty mid. I mean, is the Majora’s Mask OST really that good? It’s hard to even look at it with a Far Side Virtual lens’s because they lack a lot of sonic depth most of the time anyways.

@Fries Soundtrack uploads are hardly 'free advertising', let's be fair.

@Ethan Weegee I could see that.

They do however perhaps act as a promotion of often older titles that the company made.

It's ironic when you know that several of the main theme melodies of Super Mario Bros. games are almost 1:1 copies of actual Japanese and Western songs.

Spoken like a true lunatic.

Sorry dude, but "within their rights to do that" kind of puts a lid on any complaints. Really they're screwing themselves with how much money they can make, and that's just odd. But that's their choice.

THIS IS WHAT FRUSTRATES ME MOST ABOUT JAPANESE STUDIOS/CORPORATES! They’ll be soooo stingy about their copyrights while never releasing their stuff outside Japan. Oh gee, I wonder why so much anime is pirated?

@KaBoom That profile pic is Boo from TTYD, correct?

@Luis Alfonso Pinto Dude. You are one sad individual

Inb4 “nice debunk”

Eyyy good to see you here. Love your mashups and music, Will!

Just upload them all to Spotify fr lmao

I mean I'll digitally purchase them if I have to

Poor gilvasunner

@Spanky Pants There's a difference between morality and generosity. You seem to think it's a moral dictate that someone allows something they made available to you for free. Why? Because you want it? That's very entitled of you.

@Prince Goat Cheese Like. I just want to hear Rito Village on Spotify IT COSTS LITERALLY NO MONEY.

@Big Crunch exactly, which is why it's so stupid nintendo is getting the spotlight. People keep saying their "done with nintendo" and that their going to playstation when they pull the exact same practices if not worse. It's fine to criticize them, but it's appalling to me their being prioritized over potentially worse offenders just because it's expected of then to be bad, which shows how terrible the whole industry has became.

@Yeah David i translate most comment here an it seem like people out side of my country just hate nintendo、i see no problem directed at us。must be western problem。

@Dawildehoers again、sound like western problem。

@KaBoom yes。

Yep, this is one that truly baffles me. They could make so much money by letting people buy subscriptions to listen to them or buy albums/songs individually to listen to. But they don't, and they make it incredibly hard for their fans to listen to their music. It's ridiculous.

Ummm, it isn't under their rights, it's against the law. They don't own the rights to the music, they can't share it online like that. This how copyright law works, I don't necessarily agree with it but thems the facts.

KHInsider: Allow us to introduce ourselves

@Batman's Pet Goldfish correct。

@Robert Wyatt It’s also within their rights to do nothing… Do you see where the problem lies Robert.

@jobelplayed minecraft Gilvasunner. Siivagunner makes edits.

@Pokémaniac Guquiz No? What are you talking about, they rip the music out of videogames without any edits, look, they even manage to find multiple versions of those tracks. Its all the real-deal.

@Batman's Pet Goldfish I think you might have misunderstood what he said. He said it's within Nintendo's rights to issue copyright strikes, but it sucks because Nintendo isn't making their soundtracks available in the first place.

@gmaster2647 I agree.

Nintendo would be in the top 10 of artists on Spotify if they uploaded it all there

@Paully yes. The problem lies in that they are not being good and are actually being evil, and thus they will taste the vengeance of me, god.

I've never had any trouble finding the soundtrack I was looking for.

@E F That's really not true. Companies have founders and human beings who run the company. It could be ruthless or not. That is human nature.

and especially when they don't even sell the game it's from anymore. it's annoying as fuck.

Yeah that's just plain awful. It makes no sense to me, people are just trying to appreciate the music which can draw in new fans. Taking those videos down is ruining people's fun and actively hurting your own business

@Yeah David people out side my country who complain about our companies

@Yeah David ｗｗｗ

This is why we pirate stuff

Call this a shit take, but personally, I think actively rejecting the notion of saying "it's within their rights..." when a company does this is a big step in stopping it. It's within their legal rights, but it's an abuse of said rights, because they aren't "defending" anything; redistributing things they aren't distributing period isn't an "attack".

@Big Crunch yeah but if you're gonna call out 1 company for doing something when another company does the exact same thing, it seems very biased.

Especially when nobody else copyright claims video game music.

I have zero patience to listen to the it's how the law works and its in their right excuse .
You need to provide if you are such a huge company,to me you have no excuse if as big as Nintendo

By no means are any Nintendo soundtracks difficult to hear if we're talking about here on Youtube. And even if this was true, Square Enix and Sony are way more aggressive regarding their soundtracks. And by no means am I trying to excuse Nintendo, but Japanese corporations in general do this extremely often.

Nintendo: Don't worry if you want 3D mario ost you have to pay 300 dollars plus 60 more maybe +tax as well and then you can listen to only 3 games of music. WHAT YOU CAN LISTEN TO THEM FOR FREE ON YOUTUBE?! COPYRIGHT STRIKES FOR EVERYONE!!! Why can't we just upload them on youtube? Too much work. Yawn we're lazy.

Me: Nintendo you are a multi BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY HOW IS UPLOADING GAME MUSIC TOO MUCH WORK!! PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME!!! And you put in more effort trying to remove and I quote "A Bowser Penis".

Nintendo: Not anymore once we get rid of all of it.

It's basically the "vault" mentality. Disney does it too and it sucks. They make these amazing things, make the supplementary material hard to find, and then release it whenever they want to make more money.

@Mister Sippi you had me in the first half, cuz I was about to pop off

@Lukebytes because no one is defending the rest of the companies like Nintendo! When Sony does somthing awful, the gaming community all mostly agree that Sony Did bad. But when Nintendo does bad, you have 100s of man children rushing over with their man tidd ies flapping in the wind to defend them! Also, no other company is as scummy and sharky as nintendo! Last time I checked, Sony allowed their games to be streamed and didn't sue random people for downloading roms

Ok heres my question: why dont you torrent them?

@Big Crunch The reason I decided to put that was because everything I’ve said I’ve had yelled at me with zero awareness.

Ya think they'd make a freaking Itunes setup or something instead of making it barely available aside limited cds or expecting you to use your switch as a mp3 player if got smash ultimate or something.

@Hero of Time Exactly.

Unless they are advance wars soundtracks for some reason

Legality does not equal morality, it being within their rights to do so doesn’t mean nothing.

Even when they DO release the soundtracks to listen to in the US, there would still not be an excuse to take them down. I mean people are going to want to use that kind of music for their videos like background music or to describe music in a review of a Nintendo game. Even Metallica is 100% OK with people uploading demo albums they don't release themselves.

Edit: I say they shouldn't have the rights at all.

That "it's within their rights" disclaimer is so stupid. It used to be within their rights to own slaves. It's currently not in our rights to grow certain plants. Whether or not it's their legal right has nothing to do with it being morally right

This. I couldn't find the deluxe edition Mario Galaxy soundtrack anywhere on the internet that wasn't a private tracker

Yeah. Especially if I listened to Mario Odyssey soundtracks and sadly deleted for no reason. Isn't that music supposed to be shareable?

If Nintendo just released each game as an album and collected streaming royalties they would be rolling in it. I am sure this idea has already been floated within HQ so the reason they have decided against it baffles and eludes me.

Not only that, the problem here is much simpler yet worse; the fact of being a very big Asian company enphasizes their discard from their sanity for the sake of their "morals" and beliefs, explaining why their fanbase is also a bit alienate from reality. Not much of a big deal about your point, but heh, it's easier to justify like this.

Exactly

@E F "They'd sell you if they could and there was profit in it." finally someone who gets it.

@present "whats the problem?" the problem is that Nintendo are taking down music channels that in no way effects if people buy there games or not.

@God of Yami " It’s counterintuitive and quite bizarre IMO." not if you understand that Nintendo whats control first, and money second.

@Mathematical Hypotenuse "It's within their legal rights, but it's an abuse of said rights" i so hecking agree.

this is very shitty but also uploaders who don't run ads seem to be unaffected. Because I have countless Nintendo soundtracks I listen to on Youtube via channels that don't run ads (presumably they don't monetize at all?).

I hate to side with Nintendo here because shutting down fangames, tourneys, and online content is dogshit. But I feel like uploading straight up music owned by someone else and trying to profit off ads should be shut down. The free uploads definitely should stay up though since Nintendo doesn't upload any at all. And frankly the music should be free, its standard in gaming.

@tsundereCat [TC] oh wow. I did not know that. 🌈The More you Know🌈

Dude I know, you often have to go to a scalper online to find a game at a ridiculous price for their rarity, combining the fact of often being no longer manufactured to be sold at most stores, just to be able to listen the music. If you can't pay for it, you're gonna have to find the OSTs elsewhere and that may or not be legal.

@GodOfOrphans Ah yes, but you see that would start to threaten the constructed legitimacy of private property ownership, particularly of intellectual, cultural, and media products, in the first place, which of course is a sacred cow the capitalist economy relies on to remain 'stable' (whatever that means lol)...

Meanwhile the official Valve Youtube channel has L4D, TF2, and HL soundtrack all for anyone to listen to and use.

"Within their rights" is an irrelevant clause.

"it's within their rights to do that but it's pretty crappy"

congratulations, you've just summarized all of nintendo's executive decisions regarding the rights they have to their intellectual properties

@Prince Goat Cheese Sunrise recrods went out of business a LONG time ago IE: Bush era buddy. Where have YOU been?

@Kyle Hill That's weird. The Sunrise Records I'm talking about is a Canadian chain, preceding HMV. As far as I know, their stores are still open in Canada.

@Sadnehs BrawlBRSTM3x never ran ads but Nintendo copyright striked pretty much everything anyway.

I have a super autistic friend that can only listen to Nintendo music tracks. He always becomes depressed when his favorite songs get struck down. It’s sad to watch how depressed he gets in the time it takes him to find another upload of it

@Robert Wyatt lol I get the joke

Thing is, most Japanese companies are like this when it comes to their own IP. They're so protective of their intellectual properties to the point that even if it absolutely means that they've shut down an opportunity to make money despite demands. It's not limited to just gaming companies, just basically almost every Japanese company. Its weird that companies are there to make money, but a Japanese company's like "I'll make as much money as possible... but I'll do it the way I want to, despite that I won't be earning as much", and its... quite annoying. You can, quite literally, bend over backwards, kneel and kiss their feet with ungodly amounts of money, but if you want them to sell you something they don't feel like selling... they just won't. Honestly, that's what annoys me. Its not even scummy, just ass backwards.

It doesn’t seem like their litigiousness has done them any good either.

@This dude comes in and he says you man you seem like a really fun person

@tsundereCat [TC] Tis correct.

Bet you’re not happy about what happened to Gilvasunner today

Bruh

this sure hits different now that Gilvasunner is gone, and it was confirmed by youtube that it was Nintendo who filed all the copyright claims...

This is more true now than ever

aged like wine or milk? hard to tell, when they're both this sour. rip gilva

They want you to buy the cassette

(Meanwhile on Square enix)

@This dude comes in and he says What was even your point with these pretentious ramblings, kid?

You have no right to take somebody's work and do whatever you want with it. That's just stupid what you there. I do agree they should lighten up on there fans doing things with their IPs and realize they do it out of love. Even Mario porn would be don't out of massive love and respect for Nintendo and Nintendo either doesn't get it or doesn't care.

Just because it’s within their right doesn’t mean it’s okay.

Based senator Armstrong

Nintendo was never your friend, you liked one of their games and that's it

@Salade you’re missing the point

Nintendo:"cease and desist!"
Fan:"FINE I'LL JUST MAKE MY OWN GAME"
Nintendo:

@KaBoom yeah

@KaBoom if you're implying that I should have to exist in a world without Waluigi's Taco Stand, I'm going to have to disagree

Distributing of IP is not as praicy.

i hate this. because it is true.
ill completely support the emulation scene, particularly when the games are region-locked.
they arent making money off of something they wont sell to us. what's the harm?

@supersmashbro596 a company's image is at harm. Look bootleg if you want, but it is morally wrong. There's nothing stopping you from bootlegging something from 30 years ago or somethinf from 30 days ago.

Fans: "Well, what the hell do you want us to do?"
Nintendo: "YOU WILL EAT OUR GARBAGE AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!"

@fungus j. yeah 2 wrongs don't make a right. I know we all gotta sail the 7 seas every once in a while, but don't blame the company you're stealing from when you do. Just because you think the product isn't easily accessable doesn't make it okay to steal it.

And yeah I think Nintendo should make their games more accessable and I personally don't care if you bootleg. But if you choose to do so, then it's on you, not the company.

Edited since I made some spelling errors.

Nope stop with that

@Blacktain Falcon yes cause we should allow games that Nintendo refuses to re-release in any form despite fans wanting to pay Nintendo for an official release to just fade into time. Legality isn't morality

@KaBoom Bug Fables (Paper Mario inspired)

@fungus j. Or option 3: Buy the games on their original consoles for less than $100, so it's not in a legal grey area, plus Nintendo isn't gonna see that money.

Feels like a meat canyon video intro.

@Baltico your last point is kinda why emulation is an option. Nintendo's not getting the money so why take them down?

@Blacktain Falcon not bootlegging, emulating

@Baltico the problem is the games and the consoles are starting to break down.

@Big Crunch bootlegging and emulating are the same thing in context of this video.

@young gamer Fans: "And I'll publish it on your console next to your games."
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@TheEpicGBX looking at you will of the wisps

@RedBananaBoomerang best way I've seen is very literal digital libraries, where you can just check out a rom and return it. There are already some services like this, and jt somehow works (I think the rom is stored in RAM or something like that?). Or, better yet, what companies like Sega have done, where they just sell you a bunch of roms and an emulator.

@fungus j. yeah but if the companies aren't doing it then what do you do? That's what I'm asking, because while Sega does collections for some of their games, it's not nearly even close to all of them. Nintendo only does it with very select few games, Sony doesn't even let you buy and play PS1 games anymore unless you still have a PS3, and again it's not all of them. Microsoft seems to be the only ones who care since most of their catalog you can still buy and play even on the newest Xbox. Are we supposed to just sit around and let these old games eventually become unplayable cause the company doesn't see any profit in archiving them for future generations?

@young gamer And don't forget Bug Fables. (you can even search the game on the eShop by typing in 'paper')

@Big Crunch when you got two dead NES cause the CPU part died and there is no replacement for that part

@Baltico Ok, sure, let's do a price breakdown of that. Just about any older console is going to set you back at least $100 in most cases. Then, if you're TV only has an HDMI port, you may have to buy a blank-to-HDMI converter, as a lot of older consoles have older types of video cables. Let's call that a potential $20-$30. Then, if the console is pre-PS2 or pre-GameCube, the video output can look kinda bad on modern TVs, meaning if you want the game to look it's best, you may want to invest in an upscaler to run the video connection through, or a CRT television where the picture quality looks the way it was intended to; either option sets you back at least another $100, if not $200.

And then you get to the part where you actually buy the game. Depending on the demand for the game, you might be able to find it relatively cheap, or it might cost you even more than you've already spent just getting the console set up. Pokemon games are currently hundreds of dollars due exclusively to demand, though they'll at least probably go back down eventually. But games like Earthbound are always going to cost hundreds of dollars because they are genuinely rare and hard to come by, and getting a physical copy is honestly kind of hard to do.

And so far all this ignores the fact that this isn't necessarily a one-time process - depending on what games you want to play, you would potentially have to have the space, knowhow, and money to acquire and set up multiple retro consoles to play even a relatively small number of games.

I don't mean to imply any of this is some impossibility, as plenty of people collect old consoles and games, and I love looking at people's collections. But in terms of game preservation, games need to be accessible, as in order to keep the experience of games alive, people have to actually play them. And the space, money, and effort involved in playing games on original hardware makes it about as far from accessable as one can get.

@fungus j. I honestly prefer playing on original hardware, but a sad truth is the hardware will only be around for so long. Each time a PS2 permanently dies, that's one less PS2 left in the entire world. One day playing on original hardware won't be even possible

My friend once found a copy of a rare game that we both wanted to play and I had a nintendo console which could actually run it. Once we put it in we realized that it ran like crap and looked awful. This as opposed to playing it in 1080/60fps on my computer with save states and adjustable visuals.

That's their decision, and we can't really do anything about unless the entirety of the U.S.(or about half of Japan) boycotts any company that is even on good terms with Nintendo.

@Blacktain Falcon boo-f**king-hoo, if Nintendo wants to protect their precious “image,” then they should make their games as readily available for purchase as possible. Maybe they should, idk, make their online service actually worth it.

@Slender Man 186 their main fanbase doesn't care about that stuff though

@Blacktain Falcon their main fanbase doesn’t care about wanting to play their older games? Since when? Most of Nintendo’s most hardcore fans grew up with them in the 80’s and 90’s, of course they still want to play those games.

@Slender Man 186 their main fanbase isn'f hardcore

@Blacktain Falcon even the casual fans are aware of the obscure games like Mother through Smash Bros. Eventually they look up “who is Ness/Lucas,” and suddenly they too want to play Earthbound and Mother 3 like everyone else.

I have an easy solution. Find a game you can play legally, and play that instead.

Or make your own IP.

@Andy Blanton shut

@Andy Blanton cope seethe and or plausibly mald

Are you telling me that Sega does what Nintendo? Ba Dum Tss🥁

Hilariously though, where Nintendo despises fangames and wants to gun down their creators, Sega hired a fangame creator that proceeded to net them their best sonic game, like, period. Along with a bunch of ports of their old games.

@Fusro Sandvich Yeah, that's one thing I'll give Sega (although I think it was more so Iizuka rather than Sega who made that happen).

A shame they're not continuing with that though, as it seems the Mania devs & Sega are on shakey terms.

Yeah im pretty sure "this is not how you're supposed to play the game" is a sakurai quote

It was fucking hilarious to me that they’re charging even more for it instead of offering to people for free as an apology for their godawful online service that should be free in the first place.

James Brincefield I’d be perfectly fine with paying for the online if it was actually good but it isn’t. Smash Ultimate having like 12 frames of input lag MINIMUM and usually much more with no rollback net code is absolutely atrocious. Mario Maker 2 has the same problem. And yet, you have fanboys getting on their knees and calling this a win for Nintendo. Hell no. These are 480p N64 ROMs. The Banjo Kazooie Xbox port from 2008 had widescreen, HD textures, and various changes to the parts of the game that didn’t age quite so well. The fact that the ROMs don’t have these changes is fucking embarrassing

While I'm stunned they even went back for them in the first place, N64 games should have been there on Day fucking UNO and we all know this. I really, REALLY, don't want to see someone unironically thanking them over these games. "Thank you Nintendo!" Thank you for something you should've done on the first day! Not to mention the complete lack of the handheld library and titles like Mach Rider, NES Golf & Pinball, and the Mother games, some of the most beloved RPGs of all time. (Fun fact, as it is, when the Wii U eShop shuts down, the first game will be LEGALLY INACCESSIBLE in English unless you buy a heavily scalped used Wii U thanks to it never being released on cartridge or 3DS, forcing you to pirate and play the game on an emulator unless you're willing to spend money on the scale of the "iPhone with FLAPPY BIRD INSTALLED" madness.)

@DeanStuff I’ve heard nothing but unanimous praise so far for Nintendo throwing a handful of games onto the Switch Online service people had already been overpaying for since 2018. It’s disgusting.

Really? Most people I've seen are ripping apart the NN64 and Genesis Online expansion. I barely see anybody defending it.

morally sure but depending on your country you could end up with huge fines or going to prison.

@KeinNiemand what police department would waste its time going after someone who pirated Zombies Ate My Neighbor for the Super Nintendo?

All nintendo games*

It is always morally justified to pirate*

@Punished TubNub and to those who think Piracy is "plain stealing" are just middle-high class adults or kids who never experienced how lower, poorer, or 3rd world country people play expensive games like they had, or how pricey it is to own a console and a game at the same time while providing food for your family

Mak Mak G I think you are missing the point here, this is a discussion about the morality of piracy not its pragmatic necessity for people with low income

@Wandering the Wastes its still a necessary part of the morality of piracy, albeit unpopular. There are still people out here thinking that no matter how poor they live, they still think piracy is stealing yet they don't know how different their country's currency and its average salary based onto their economy compared to the ones living in a 3rd world poor country.

Piracy is stealing. Just don't get caught.

Blacktain Falcon property is inherently physical, therefore piracy cannot be theft.

Mak Mak G there is nothing moral or immoral about being able or unable to buy a game, this is not food, healthcare or housing, it's a freaking game, if you can't afford it too bad. Now if you are talking about IPs and if piracy constitutes theft then there is morality to the discussion.

Mak Mak G and btw I LIVE in the third world. Had to pirate my way into having 5 games in my second hand PS2 back in the day.

@Wandering the Wastes property doesn’t have to be physical, it just has to be owned by someone.

Cool Dude McGee one cannot own an idea, for it is not tangible. If I buy lumber and build a wardrobe with it, the wardrobe is tangibly mine and I can do as I please with it, and the same applies to everyone. But if I have an idea, let's say a wardrobe design, it is not tangibly mine because anyone could also come up with said design (before or after me) without ever even knowing of my existence and/or design, and for me to claim ownership of the idea, and to prohibit that person (or any other by that matter) of building or commercializing their wardrobe is ridiculous, for just as in the first example, they did the exact. same. thing. I did.

@Punished TubNub Based.

It would be stealing if you were taking the source code from their hands. But you're just taking a copy out of literally unlimited copies

@Wandering the Wastes That is absolutely correct and the reason copyright is BULL SHIT.

Only if it's inaccessible normally like if it's discontinued

"It is morally justified to pirate a game if you can't buy it anymore.

I can't fully agree.... but I will say that copyright laws are broken.
I hate the idea of copyright extending 2 fucking lifetimes!!!! (70 years + life of author) before it enters into the public domain

AND I hate the entire idea of trademarks, a company shouldn't have a permanent non expiratory control on any product forever THAT'S bullshit

@Punished TubNub unless it's wario games.







Shame on you.

@KeinNiemand unless if you're kingpin, you'll be fine

I have trove of old NES SNES N64 GBA GB/C romsets, want to do DS but the problem is lack of storage

video games evolve. older games should cost way less than new ones. and yes, (in my opinion) NES games are old enough to be free.

The use of morally is not needed, there is literally no valid reason to not do it.

@Wandering the Wastes I mean, trademarks exist

@Wandering the Wastes So let me get this straight. If I paint a beautiful painting, it's mine. I made it and it's tangible, so I justly own it. Yeah? But if instead of painting that painting on canvas, I created the exact same image in a digital form, then it's suddenly not mine, because it's not tangible. Am I understanding this correctly? Because that seems really arbitrary and dumb. This idea might have worked 50 years ago, but it becomes harder and harder to justify in an increasingly digital world.

I mostly agree that you can't own an idea, but I think you should have rights to the products of your labor. And making videogames, just like creating art or writing a book, is definitely a labor.

Derrick Crowe that's where online licenses come in, there are many types of them that acknowledge you as the owner of your painting and the only one with rights to commercialize it, but don't prohibit users from downloading and sharing as they like. This is pretty much how the de facto status quo is for most images on the internet. If a company wants to legally use a copyrighted stock photo they have to buy or negotiate its use with the person or company who made them, but that doesn't stop internet users from downloading and using them for memes and stuff. This might be ilegal, but no one is saying they own any of those images of trying to sell them, and companies still manage to make a profit.

@YouAreProbablyAutistic someone who knows of Scotland? Yay.

@Punished TubNub good idea, I'm gonna go pirate a small indie game and then laugh as the dev can't afford rent........ you might wanna alter that original remark

@Danny Caracciolo Not at all. There are no indie devs who are that poor that they can't pay rent. Also why should I care about the wellbeing of some dev i've never met

It's always morally justified to pirate all Nintendo games

@Corey Gray or hard to get

Piracy is sharing, sharing is caring.

It is always morally justified to pirate

@matrix3509 dude you are saying this about pirating Nintendo games.

@Chips The Kiwi Oh, you got me. You are right. Clearly, the police making an example out of people who pirate games is just beyond the pale, even for the cops.

Thanks you , Mr. Police Understander for showing me the light.

Nintendo literally sued some kid over hand-made Nintendo copy. It should be morally awarded to pirate Nintendo's games

I just didn’t have money back then, but yeah!

@Mak Mak G it's okay to steal necessities out of sheer desperation. It's never okay to steal a luxury.

@rejvaik yeah, any random Joe should be allowed to use someone else's ip.

@Derrick Crowe yes! A digital file that has been sold at retail or online in exchange for currency is a product.

@Cynt Destroyer because they are protecting their IP from bootleggers, as they should?

@Andy Blanton reread my comment buddy and you'll see what I was talking about and I continually believe that copyright law needs to be reformed because as it currently stands in the United States it is completely broken and it leads to doing the exact opposite of what copyright was originally intended to do which was promote creativity among creators and artists instead copyright currently does the opposite it allows corporations and companies to hang on to IP for longer then a normal human can live thus in effect stifling creativity

The best example of this is Mickey mouse who was first conceived as a concept in the 1920s the copyright on Mickey mouse will not expire until 2024 over a God damn century! That is way too long to hold on to a monopoly of any intellectual property

Not being allowed to use someone else's ip doesn't stifle creativity.

@Andy Blanton It does when that IP is locked up from the public and by extension the public domain despite the fact the original creator is long since dead
And companies do their best to attempt to own it forever which they do by abusing both copyright law and trademarks (Tarzan is over 100 years old too! And it's still not even in the public domain despite the author having died back in the 1950s)

You can even see this first hand as one of their more well known tactics is to initiate massive false copyright claims even on parodic content which is infact a protected form of expression by the US 1976 copyright law but with so few resources to combat a massive corporation most content creators can't adequately fight back without breaking their wallets

Why waste ±5 grand of legal process in a court of law to defend your 3 minute youtube video?

Just look at the extremely huge wave of content on youtube that gets false copyright striked all the time, you better believe yes that is a stifling of creativity

why stop at old ones?

true

@Chips The Kiwi probably my police department

@Blacktain Falcon "It's not stealing if you're taking what they stole!"

Hello there thanks for watching the video!

THIS RIGHT HERE. Totally agree. Kinda miss the DS/Wii times. I feel, ever after the Wii U, the company started to have a lot of trouble already, with the direction they wanted to go. Make a new console? Or continue not checking the shovelware? I don't know WHAT they were doing back then already, but some agree, they're going too far, I agree.

nah pokemon isn't ruined

I remember i pirated Kenshi a while back to try it out. Turns out, I loved the shit out of it. I bought it later and even made a guide on steam. Who knew.

Nintendo can and should enforce the basic idea that an average joe cannot create material based on Nintendo's copyrighted franchises.

@Andy Blanton They can and SHOULDN'T*

You don't see so much backlash on SEGA to that front.

@Andy Blanton ain't most of it considered transformative enough and fair use provided that you are not making money from it, and if someone had money to fight with Nintendo in court, then after long and drown out battle would be able to win this case?

@GrayFoxHound9 no. Nintendo owns their franchises. Nobody else can make games based on those franchises without Nintendo's blessing. This is not up for debate and it never will be.

The modders and fangame makers knew the consequences going in.

@Andy Blanton what about fan art, fan animations and videos reviewing both games and company though?

@GrayFoxHound9 he might get a siest and desist from Nintendo with that pfp

Like i Said After

@Andy Blanton Blessing? Emp ain't lying when he calls it the Church of Nintendo

@Andy Blanton  @Andy Blanton  and so what...

OK they own there franchise but what happens if someone steals it, dose Nintendo suffer harm ?

Most of the time stealing something dose suffer harm as that person can no longer use that item but if someone steals nintendos franchise Nintendo can still use that franchise.

OK so maybe harm can be cause in other ways so let's look a these

1. Harm could be caused by taking away sale but for one that only encourages Nintendo to make better games so they can compete, addionally any lost sales would be minor as these would mostly be played by fans who would be buying all the games anyway.

2. Harm could be caused by harming there reputation by passing it off as nintendos work. However this can be easily avoided by just putting a signal in the title that it is a fan work.

So ultimately very little harm could be caused and in return for that harm we get free games, fanart and videos and better games from Nintendo due to competition. So overall its not a bad thing

SEGA also developed F-Zero GX, still my favorite racing game ever to this day.

Granted, Christian Whitehead had experience in the industry prior to Mania, but still.

@Dr Kreuzer okay, their approval.

@That One Guy I watched it a couple times.

@Doggie_guts first, Nintendo doesn't have a problem with fanart (which is kinda weird since their primary audience is children). Second, it isn't my fanart. Third, even if I did get a cease and desist, big deal. I'd change my pfp and get on with my day.

@Andy Blanton "Get on with my life."
Not something you're exactly doing right now even after one month that this video released.

@Seven Kravass I have gotten on with my life. These are just side conversations I continue to have while I do so.

@SquarD4RYC In option 1, people should just know better than to make fangames. With this, the biggest problem is that some degenerate gets his gay furry porn fanart options limited. In option 2, off you don't want to follow the company's fangame policies, just don't make fangames. It's as easy as that.

@Andy Blanton i see you have completely missed the point, exactly like i expected, lmao

@SquarD4RYC That guy is like talking to a wall.
He's already affected by the fanboyism of Nintendo and he will probably not realize anytime soon.
Better to just let him be, he'll never learn anyways.

@Seven Kravass i should probably say, my primary goal with that comment was more some mental exercise for myself, changing this guy's mind was kinda secondary

sometimes, it's good to take apart dumb arguments and see what exactly makes 'em dumb, cuz y'never know when you'll find yourself face to face with someone like that, it's more a matter of WHEN than IF

@SquarD4RYC Understandable. Have a good day, sir.

@Andy Blanton
Your mistake is believing copyright and trademarks are natural and good. They are neither

@Andy Blanton thats great, i dont care about nintendo games ill go enjoy a modded version of something i do and YOU the person who enjoys nintendo games can wait until the release another crappy pokemon game and proceed to not be able to play it because of joycon drift

@Brandofreak If you create an ip, you should be allowed to say "hey, this is mine. Don't make media or merchandise of it without my approval."

@Pawn so you're telling me that the games you enjoy aren't good enough, and that you need to mod those games to enjoy it?
Also, I couldn't care less about Pokemon and Joy-Con drift hasn't been a major issue in a couple years.

@SquarD4RYC ok, then what is the point? That a company should have no control over it's ip?

@Andy Blanton Clown🤡

@Andy Blanton ur paying 300 dollars for something that an iphone 4s can runner better than as well as not being able to play any games more than 30fps other than the 2d super mario game especially when you put it in dock mode and connected to a monitor/tv

@Andy Blanton mean, like, they can, but enforcing it is really dumb. As in, they will have a better reputation, community, and better games if they work with people willing to work on their stuff for free. Letting people mod your games is a good way to make them last forever, hiring people who make fangames is a good way to get loyal staff, distributing fangames on the behalf of creators is a good cheap way to make a small amount of money, or if done for free, a good amount of good will

Sega also can't make a good game to save their lives however. So they greatly rely on their fans to outdo them.

i love how people use sonic mania as an argument that sega are willing to work with fan developers when its common knowledge that Sonic Team were incredibly frustrated that consumers liked Mania much more than the simutaniously released Sonic Forces. And now you know why we haven't seen a new Mania game since. Also games like Street of Rage 4 and Alex Kidd Redux were also outsourced to toher developers because Sega couldn't be bothered to revive their own IPs themselves. So much for "supporting fan projects".

They also make ROMs readily available to purchase on PC which makes emulation and rom hacking/modding all the more easier

@Icy Wings that's also because Sega has nothing in terms of brands that can compete with anything Nintendo dishes out. Sonic? sure... some original Sega Sonic Games are worse than flash games with sonic in the past. Why would you stop them then.

@The Prophet That is just another reason to hate Nintendo, they DIsneyfy their stuff.

@Andy Blanton Nuclesr Throne: great game, mods make it a lot more fun and interesting.

Every single Bethesda game that has mods is better with them.

Let’s not forget the Valve games originally by modders.

Fuck it look at the MOBA genre which comes from a mod.

@Andy Blanton It is up for debate, because we say it is, whether you want it to be up to debate or not :^)

@Andy Blanton you seem to be showing up on this video alot to say dumb shit that literally does not advance the argument in any way, shape, or form, so I'm just gonna say this.


Nintendo has no business policing the internet. Everyone here will use their ip however the hell they want, and there is nothing you can do about it.


Have fun copypasting your comment again, because you literally have nothing else to offer.

Sega needs money lol

@Andy Blanton I get that this conversation has been about fan games and fan art, but how do u feel about the way Nintendo treated the competitive SSB community?

@Andy Blanton but why shouldnt we be able to make fangames? It doesnt hurt nintendo, it doesnt get them any less sales, it isnt affecting them at all

Sega shut down a Streets of Rage fangame tho.

Sadly Sega pulled a Sega, and cancelled a sequel to Sonic mania for a sequel for that shitshow that is forces.

Can't forget valve with some of their most successful IPs being adaptations of Half-Life 1 mods that they hired the modders to create with their full support

Nintendo: respects mario and makes good games for him to star on
Sega: [Too gross for YouTube]

And you see where that got Sega

@Andy Blanton "The modders and fangame makers knew the consequences going in"

"Did you see what that girl was wearing? She was practically asking for it"


And yeah it's not lost on me that you're just beefing for funsies, but it doesn't make the point any less ignorant

@Andy Blanton Sonic is better anyways lol

@Andy Blanton Why? And make your argument without saying "because I made it."

Sega? Isn't that the creator of Sonic? Damn i wonder how they're doing. It's been a century since we heard from them

@Andy Blanton "nintendo's blessing"
Definitely a diehard and stubborn nintendo fanboy

@SquarD4RYC warhammer 40k's current situation is basically this

@Amongusaur Nintendo's approval. You know what I mean

@Andy Blanton Hey dude, i get your "Nintendo can enforce their rights" point, but what do you mean by "Nintendo should enforce their rights"?

@Andy Blanton how do you get on with your life if you dont have a life??

I actually know a company that's done this recently. As of a few days ago, Videocult is now officially supporting the More Slugcats mod-expansion for Rain World.

@Icy Wings nice ratio

@Pyro Kujo (hiatus)ty mate

So does Tsuburaya does too what Toei don't.

@Andy Blanton you missed the point, fanboy

@Andy Blanton well then, i guess your donkey kong pfp is against the law, because you used their character without permission, i am now calling the police on you for having an image of a cartoon monke, because some big boi company that i'm supposed to feel bad for somehow, owns that cartoon monke. that's the same argument, you cannot make anything with nintendos characters because that will definitely effect nintendo somehow. your argument is worse than my posture.

@Cybersushi I didn't draw the picture. Nintendo never asked the artist to take it down, nor have they asked me to change my profile picture. If they did, I would change it. If the artist refused to take down the image, he would be in the wrong.

@Rion The magnificent There already wasn't any evidence of a sequel to Mania existing, but you've made it even more ridiculous by suggesting the sequel would've come out four months after the original.

@Russel Shacklefort evidence?

Sega was on their bullshit too, they shut down Streets of Rage Remake before they sold off the IP. The SOR4 developers don't seem to mind Remake exists, so it's back.

Sega is also a failing, stumbling company that needs to beg its fanbase not to just leave

@Andy Blanton How does that boot taste?

What are we supposed to do? Sega works for Nintendo now...

@byron mitchell what are you smoking

@byron mitchell Im sure the guy with the Mario pfp is going to have a nuanced and intelligent take.

@Bob Snob Woah oh no i have a realistic mario pfp from 3 years ago therefore i must be a nintendo fanboy waaaaahhhh. Sega good even though they still support nintendo and don't have any other consoles you can play their games on besides nintendo and playstation waaahhhhh. Waaahhhh I like to argue with people in youtube comment sections waaahhh.

@byron mitchell Bruh, do I even need to say anything? I'm cackling rn. I honestly feel embarrassed for you. What the hell was the point of posting that?

@Bob Snob What's wrong with it?

@byron mitchell Dude...

@Bob Snob What?

@Bob Snob Bro I literally didn't fucking defend nintendo. I realize they come out on all platforms ok? Just you saying "omg hahaha funny he has a mario pfp lolol fanboy" pissed me off. Sorry for not realizing something immediately, like you did.

@byron mitchell I get that. I just got second hand embarrassment from the "waah" post.

"Cause todays modders can be tomorrows developers"-Funke

sega keeps taking Ws

Despite that it's true. people forget that Sega is kinda passive aggressive abt that fact💀💀💀

Andy brandon i want to say something to you about the fangames. You said that why you will need more gemas that the original that you enjoy and boy thats some kind of joke or what? Bro the extra content. You csn actually complete all the pokemon games an then what? Wait a whole year or more for the next generation i dont know how people think about fangames so idk how you or other people feel about fangames but i see them as gsmes that can give you more things to do. Heck there is a fangame of pokemon that add 50 badges and re-invents the hole battle system snd thats fu*'*ing great.

Nintendon't let their quality drop to the point where their main character franchise is considered a fucking joke and they have to resort to having fans make their games for them, that's certainly true rofl.

I agree. If Blizzard, EA ir Ubisoft consistently made good games, they'd get more apologists. You'd have Blizzard fans defending the company over the Hong Kong issue if Diablo III was good or the latest WOW expansion were good or Warcraft 3 Reforged was good or they just outright insult their fans at their own presentations ("Don't you all have phones" "You think you want that (Vanilla WOW) but you don't") they'd have loyal fanboys defending them too.

It's a simple fact of any industry: The consumer only cares about how good the product is.

You say that, but people still buy Pokemon games, which have very much been declining in quality

@Lando Akechi Quality Standards for Pokémon fans practically do not exist.

I’d say Sony makes consistently good exclusive games as well. They just don’t have their hands on the eternal nostalgia machines called Mario and Zelda which always get a +1or2 on their ratings due solely to rose tinted glasses.

Anything not called Mario or Zelda almost always gets the shaft, especially rpgs. This is done by either having clear time and budget constraint’s which ruin parts of the game, se Fire Emblem Three Houses and Every Pokemon game made for the switch, or Nintendo just barely eking out a game for one of their secondary franchises every 4-5 years.

Even Mario and Zelda have their issues. The games a pretty good by Mario and Zelda standards but games like Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey do have their fair share of problems which are ignored as games journos and long time fans trip over themselves to shout “10 out of 10!!!!” The second a game comes out.

They’ve made like three good games in the past 5 years.

@Proletarichad I mean most of their games are really well made in comparison to other companies. I kinda hate everything about Nintendo apart from its games. The shitty hardware and bad business decisions. They make good games to most people but overall, as a companies it really sucks.

I agree

Emp is god

@Just A Pair of Legs Emp cult > Nintendo cult

Nintendo wouldn't criticize itself though. It must be pagan propaganda

There's no Halo. Therefore its terrible

But is that God's body ready?

I agree. It's really easy for me and others to say that Nintendo is anti consumer and that they need to get with the times and get their shit together, but actually doing things to change it is going to be way harder, and we need to be more proactive about it (including myself, which is gonna be agonizingly hard for me.)

omg it's the patrick show.

He really threw down with the Nintendo fans

better than any of your critiques of Nintendo, that's for sure

If only god would give us a new Donkey Kong game.

Not

didn't you make a video almost exactly like this

Oh cool uncle Al is here

@CalTonTheRobot Uncle Al is an egomaniac who constantly makes immature comments towards every Nintendo fan. He deserves the scrutiny.

​@Donkey Kong Fan
unless you're talking about his stance on Kirby, i have no idea what the hell you're talking about..
also this comment really reeks of soy god damn

Agreed! I now know the full story! Nintendo seriously needs to get with the times!

@CalTonTheRobot If you take a quick glance at his Twitter account, you’ll understand why I said that. If anything, you’re the one with soy if you actively insult anyone who is a fan of something.

You know if Uncle Al agrees with you then you are on the wrong side of history and need to Get therapy like a lot of it

Oh hey, it’s everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.

@Donkey Kong Fan the way you worded your response sounded soy and incel like, and to be fair I didn't do that well either, but as far as I know, Uncle Al has only mocked Kirby and Smash fans for toxicity for wanting characters, or the franchise being to bland to give a chance,
By far the most controversial tweet I know he made was about Nintendo's lineup being filled with Half Baked Sequels, Ports and Remakes, and finish it later games..
Which is true.. however what he tweeted next was definitely controversial, he cut several games for "not being must have games" leaving several beloved games behind..
And I guess he said Yoshi was a bad game..
He gives smash fans the most shit for their high expectations and being toxic about characters not getting.
He also quote retweets takes he doesn't agree with, the only example that comes to mind first was him responding to a tweet being toxic towards Arlo for saying Kazuya was not as hype as Banjo..
(Which, despite Tekken 3 outselling the entire Banjo Kazooie Franchise, is not 100% wrong).

I don't think Al is a bad guy, and I don't think I'm 100% wrong when I call out someone blatantly making snarky remarks over Twitter hot takes..

If you have any examples to show me to the contrary of my defense, I would be very happy to get a couple links .

(P.s if you say "go look it up yourself" you're admitting you have no evidence and that I win the argument)

Accurate, Mr. Al, but these days, he prefers the nickname, "EmpLemon."

Uncle Al, the nintendo fan who isn't really a nintendo fan

@nek snek🐍 Okay, I feel compelled to ask. What would it take to label him as one beyond the fact that he likes a couple of their games?

Lmao it’s the Nintendo Switch lineup guy

Not

@Halfmoon the definition of a fan is "a person who has a strong interest or admiration for a particular person or thing." He's a huge fan of donkey kong. He talks about Nintendo when he isn't doing spongebob parodies or something. I would consider that a fan but idk maybe I'm wrong

No. You missed the point. Content creators aren’t gods.

Yoooooooo, its the legend

Emp is the best YouTuber of all time. He says exactly what the world needs to hear imo.

You should make a video about this video maybe.

I hope Kong watch is still going strong

@FatalSyndrome * empcord vietnam-flashbacks *

@CalTonTheRobot If you think my response was soy-like, you should think the same about uncle al’s comments. I stole his “deserves the scrutiny” line from the comment he left on penguinz0’s awful anti-Nintendo video. So that al himself can witness how senseless he sounds.

@Donkey Kong Fan "Anti-Nintendo Video" I'm not sure calling out Nintendo for the Smash Slippi Takedown is "Anti.Nintendo"
I never saw Cr1tical's video on Nintendo, but I'm pretty damn sure he wasn't being "Anti Nintendo" since most negative Nintendo Videos call Nintendo out for their Shady actions..

If you want to say Nintendo's Criticism Videos are "Anti Nintendo" whatever..
But I'm still standing by my statement of you sounding like a Soy Boy..
And that "Anti Nintendo* statement is all I needed to know you don't have an actual argument in terms of Uncle Al being a bad person..

Feel free to give another response.i frankly don't give enough of a shit to respond to you after this unless you have an actual argument that isn't just "everyone calling out Nintendo is Anti-Nintendo"

@CalTonTheRobot Most people calling out nintendo have more effort put into their arguments than Al's, he tends to jump on bandwagons and start twitter wars over the smaller shit for nothing

@Surprised Lobsta fair enough, but the guy I was arguing with literally said Penguin0 was "Anti Nintendo" just because he made video calling out Nintendo..
If you think Al hasn't done a good of a job of criticizing Nintendo, that's fine.
I personally think his criticism of Nintendo of being lazy with their Switch lineup is a fair issue to talk about.. I mean, in 2018 alone, it was mostly ports and smaller games, and 2018 was effectively the "Just wait for Smash you stupid bastards" year.

TL;DR It's fine to say Al did a bad job calling out Nintendo, but Donkey Kong Fan was getting piss mad about not only Al but also Penguin0/Cr1tical

Thats the point calling out corporate shills/loyalist, the comments definitly ruined that message but what the expect on sudo twitter.