"How do they keep getting away with it?"<br>The same reason why some people simp for Apple or why there are CDPR fanboys still defend the company after Cyberpunk. They have a cult-like following.

"How do they keep getting away with it?"
The same reason why some people simp for Apple or why there are CDPR fanboys still defend the company after Cyberpunk. They have a cult-like following.

@The_Dark_Jumper I hate how No Man's Sky became the go to excuse to buggy video game releases, since when it became acceptable to release an unfinished game and fix it over the years to come? Also most AAA studios does this yet somehow CDPR are the ones to be given a pass and praised for it?<br>It is true that people fell for the hype but that is irrlevant to what I or the video are saying, people are defending games and studios they like not because they see injustice towards these companies but because of emotional attachment and tribal thinking. Even the "people overhyped themselves" excuse is used to shift the blame on consumers rather on the company.

@The_Dark_Jumper I hate how No Man's Sky became the go to excuse to buggy video game releases, since when it became acceptable to release an unfinished game and fix it over the years to come? Also most AAA studios does this yet somehow CDPR are the ones to be given a pass and praised for it?
It is true that people fell for the hype but that is irrlevant to what I or the video are saying, people are defending games and studios they like not because they see injustice towards these companies but because of emotional attachment and tribal thinking. Even the "people overhyped themselves" excuse is used to shift the blame on consumers rather on the company.

@Martyr_Lightsilver Okay so I read out your whole argument, I agree with that completely honestly. You kind of educated me on something I was ignorant on beforehand, so thank you.

@The_Dark_Jumper i think the reason is that CDProjeckt was known for making pretty much perfect games prior to that, wich is why people jumped on the hype train to begin with, let alone CDPR taking their time, wich to many is a good sign.it didn't go well...

@Ford Miller The part that people don't get is that paying for their game, owning it, or praising it positively is, in essence, defending the company because you are supporting their business. If you pay for it, you are giving them money and that tells them yes, you want more product, thus they will continue to release shitty games and refuse to improve. Same with owning it. By having the game on your shelf you are saying that you like the company for that game specifically. For example, I own the Jack and Daxter games even though I hate The Last of Us Part 2. Lastly, speaking of it positively like you are now is basically free marketing to the corporation. They want you to say it is a good or even okay game because enough people saying that will convince fence-sitters to buy the game, perhaps when it's cheaper. But that doesn't matter to the company because a sale is a sale. Therefore, you are still supporting them and their practices. Yes, this means every video a YouTuber who uploads gameplay of the game and has fun with it is sponsoring the purchase of the shitty product. They are portraying the product in a positive light and thereby convincing others to purchase it. This is a case of corporate manipulation and a dirty psychological tactic that many are oblivious to, although it's hard to blame people because it is intended to work on a more subconscious level. It is actually why streamers and YouTuber's are used as marketing outlets and considered so vital for marketing a game.

How do I know this? Because it's my field of education. You cannot fight corporate using grey. Corporations will always spin the grey into a means of supporting them or simply accept that a balanced opinion is singing praise because a unit sold is a unit sold. Hell, even articles on game sales frame a sale as "a game sold = a game somebody liked" which is false and plays into the idea that the more popular something is, the better it is, (an idea that is believed by far more people than one would otherwise think). Therefore, the criticism will be ignored. As shitty as it is, negative publicity and low sales is the best way to hit a corporation where it hurts. Sadly, that means you have to deny the game in its entirety, but it is a necessary sacrifice to ensure a better quality product in the future. This is why I will vehemently bash any game that fails to meet consumer demands and never relent, be it Fallout 76 or Cyberpunk 2077. You can argue against this all you want, but it won't change the truth because having a balanced opinion simply fails to damage the corporate system behind gaming's biggest problem.

@GFMHD I was not defending it, that's the funny part. I think Emp even went through the whole: Specifying that it is your opinion makes the argument benine, which you failed to understand. I personally enjoyed Cyberpunk and that is all I said, not defending the companies for what they had put out and I: as someone with pretty low video game standards can ignore the buggy mess that it is, as I play Fallout New Vegas all the time.

The Apple comparison is rather apt, namely with Nintendo's history of selling underpowered plastic at premium prices. Or similar to how Apple's pricing scheme has been going on for decades (you can find news reports of the Apple products being criticized for being underpowered and overpriced in the 80s), Nintendo's scarcity problem has lasted far longer than some realize (again, you can find 30 year old reports of SMB3 being a tough find at retail in 1990).

I will admit I did buy cyberpunk specifically on ps4 because I heard it was a buggy mess and so while I wasn't excited for the game everyone was promised I had a lot of fun with the game we actually got (I got it used someone was trying to get rid of their copy)

I'm not involved enough in the Cyberpunk situation to judge how they handled it, but seeing that they didn't abandon the game yet and considering the development of No Man's Sky I'm ready to believe in anything.
I have no attachment to any of the CDPR games beyond seeing one Cyberpunk trailer and thinking "that looks cool", so I can well imagine that people just did the eternally repeated mistake of joining the hype train.

I'm not involved enough in the Cyberpunk situation to judge how they handled it, but seeing that they didn't abandon the game yet and considering the development of No Man's Sky I'm ready to believe in anything.
I have no attachment to any of the CDPR games beyond seeing *one* Cyberpunk trailer and thinking "that looks cool", so I can well imagine that people just did the eternally repeated mistake of joining the hype train.

Cyberpunk was overhyped, leading to a game most people thought was lazy. I really enjoyed it for it's positives. The best part is that this will push CDPR to make better games in the future and if I enjoyed Cyberpunk, I'm sure I will enjoy whatever new game that comes out much much more.


As much as i enjoyed nintendo sometimes its good to let a game company drown...the air going away bieng the money and just when theyre about to die pull them back up! Thats how they should be treated rn


I contribute to the problem sadly, I only play nintendo now a days, I've played other studio games but man, they have never hit as hard for me as a good old nintendo game. Also, I don't really get the melee thing, they never meant for it to be competitive, you say sakurai should've helped to make it competitive, why? It wasn't even part of their plans to make it as that, imagine if all games acknowledged competitive fan bases (incredibly small) and modified whole games based off that, faulty logic there.

Most all other AAA competitive games arent advertised towards a mixed audience between kids and adults, my 5 year old nephew plays smash, but he isnt playing any other competitive AAA. The image of being a casual fun game for the family allows nintendo to sell to even kids, while many parents will doubt doing that for other AAA. Trust me, nintendo isn't dumb, they know well the effect their image can have and protecting it means keeping on the legacy, which has worked for so long.

@Joshua Peters yeee, they definitely want gamers on their new release.

But its not so easy to give streaming rights, protecting your image is a huge thing, risking it ain't worth it in Nintendos eyes. They get very little from it

 I meant that the competitive scene is small compared to the total player base, which to nintendo at the end of the day is more important. Casuals are still way more common.

@Joshua Peters to be completely honest all of that's not Nintendo's problem all the time. And they have no one to blame but themselves still from the get-go.

Really what this all is is Nintendo saying: "please stop playing the old one and purchase the new one so we make more money".

Also you cannot compare melee to "incredibly small" competitive communities for obscure games. It's coming up on 20 years old and it's community is far from tiny.

Also this idea that melee players want Nintendo to mod the game is a strawman. Nintendo doesn't have to do anything other than just allow streaming rights, and they can't even do that sometimes.

@Joshua Peters Definitely! the Smash community is probably too stupid to even realize it

Every big AAA developer's wet dream is to have a loyal competitive following. Look at all of these games releasing that put forward the money to advertise competitive scenes before the game is even bloody out.

So understand how perplexing it is that Nintendo not only doesn't want to support melee competitively, but also actively intrude upon its success.

@M64bros you would think that, but the fanbase sees no problem, hence why nintendo can keep the status quo. Even for me, I see no problem with nintendo, if its the price for their quality games, then i dont care about the rest

To be completely honest the fan base has no one to blame but themselves


I considered myself a Nintendo fan in some aspects of the company, i also bashed Sakurai in the past a lot 😂.

The online in Ultimate did improved, sadly the Switch Online service is still dumb af, at this point, freaking Pokémon Unite that is free, has better online than Nintendo's expensive games 😂😂😂😂.

I mainly game on PC, i loved Zelda until Nintendo made that Ubisoft game (Breath of The Wild), Ultimate brought me back to Smash Bros after Brawl and Smash 4 killed it, seeing the return of Metroid being developed by a small (indie?) company is a huge breath of fresh air...

I still dislike the Switch overall to this day, but the OLED model itself is a miracle, they took 23 years for a LAN port on the console that the Dreamcast already had in 1998. SEGA does what Nintendon't lmao...


Is there a term for fandom Stockholm Syndrome?

@Abdullah GAri goes beyond parasocial, because at least with parasocial relationships, they grow from a fan relating to an individual creator. With Nintendrones, they think the company itself is an object to be worshipped and it’s bad acts to be excused

sakurai’s pity: the self-sustaining belief that you are indebted to a creator/company for deriving joy from their product, even if that product was paid for up-front


When he said people are put off from smash by the high skill ceiling, wasn't that taken out of context? It seems to me like he's speaking as a game designer justifying his changes to the game, not a lawyer or PR person justifying action against tournament organizations. He might be wrong, but he's only human.


We need to strike Nintendo fan's beloved watering hole; reddit.


This is the reason why new pokemon games are still sold


Nintendo: hates fan games

SEGA: you know what if you care so much do the damm game and we will release it as an official product...

and that´s how we got Sonic Mania

Megamix got ported to Mania, made an esque 6.0 version<br>and Sonic 2HD is continued by fans of the project and part of the og team

Megamix got ported to Mania, made an esque 6.0 version
and Sonic 2HD is continued by fans of the project and part of the og team

I like how that subsequently and indirectly shat down (or almost shat down) two of the major Fan projects
Sonic 2HD & Sonic Megamix

But it is an amazing trade off regardless

The thing is that Sega doesn't know how to make Sonic games anymore, second the dev team of Mania not only had already worked with Sega in the past but also are professionals developers

Mania was not made by fans, it was made by developer whose members were fans and they are even on record saying that they dislike when people claim Mania was made because Sega "gave fans a chance"

It's funny how Sega literally has ties to the yakuza, and yet they act so much less like gangsters than Big N

still, i think sega did a lot of changes in the game. like, i doubt that zones like green hill or chemical plant were going to appear originally.

Sadly that wasn't the case with Streets of Rage Remake back in the day... At least we got an oficcial sequel though...

I still consider it to be the greatest Sonic game of all time, not just because they got modders and fans to actually work on the game, it's a perfect mold of what Sonic actually is

@Bee oh yeah, BRB has been absolutely the perfect fall guy to mask how SEGA can absolutely crush devs (maybe even Sonic Team, too) with impossible deadlines. I feel sorry that, regardless of what else they will ever be involved with, they'll be known as "the guys who made Sonic Boom."

@UnBR0k3enAngel man, Sonic boom made me so mad at Sega when I found out that they basically fucked bigredbutton up, the game could have been good and we would have a whole new universe for Sonic

@Bee i do hope his new dev team gets contracted for a Mania sequel, but that doesn't seem too likely, given that the last time SEGA gave Sonic to a third party, we got Sonic Boom. <br>Of course, Evening Star already has Mania under their belt as the signal that they could make banger 2D sonic games, but I surely hope SEGA realizes the gold mine they have by making a new generation of 2D Sonic (Sonic 5??)

@Bee i do hope his new dev team gets contracted for a Mania sequel, but that doesn't seem too likely, given that the last time SEGA gave Sonic to a third party, we got Sonic Boom.
Of course, Evening Star already has Mania under their belt as the signal that they could make banger 2D sonic games, but I surely hope SEGA realizes the gold mine they have by making a new generation of 2D Sonic (Sonic 5??)

@UnBR0k3enAngel hopefully now that Sega saw the success of mania, they will give them a chance to make a sequel and let them do what they want

As much as I love Sonic Mania in of itself for just being allowed to exist...we really have to mention more how controlling SEGA was in developing that.
Whitehead and co told us that they have envisioned all kinds of new zones, but were bottlenecked into having original zones remaster to ensure that game wouldn't flop. And that's not cool, because the demo level (Studiopolis) literally showed them how great the devs could be if SEGA just let them do their shit.
I still like Mania, but I don't think its the shining beacon of trustworthy company-fan relationships that everyone seems to make it out to be.


Don't forget the SD cards with the star logo for triple the price


This is one of my favourite videos on youtube


Rewatching this video after the removal of the dislike button 👍


shit like this makes me embarrassed to be a nintendo fan (to be clear, the 'shit' I'm talking about is everything nintendo has done, not your video)

I'm a pretty big nintendo fan, but I'm not gonna act like the company is anywhere near flawless.  Companies aren't your friend, don't defend your captors.  You can enjoy games, but the creators aren't God.  I guess what i'm trying to say is enjoy games, but don't be a stupid fanbase about it.  Your video is really good, glad to see a more realistic approach to all of this stuff.  It's pretty ironic to say that I'll continue to buy their games, but you're 100% right.  I think people (and myself) see the games industry like sports.  Each company is a team, and if you aren't wearing your team's jersey and cheering obnoxiously loud, then you're not a true fan.  Anyways, keep being based!


@Logan Roof: Pedo Exposer You're late bro

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 LOL LMAO

Lol a while video spreading lies about Nintendo and their fans.


Nintendo doesn't want smash to be a competitive game, and yet Ultimate didn't have a social online game lobby?


This doesn't even touch on my main qualms with Nintendo. I couldn't care less about competitive gaming either but I still think they should be held accountable for all the shit they're pulling. All that shit about how you're paying for quality finished products and that is why the price never goes down? Then adding DLC!? All the Pokemon games and Zelda and Mario and the million rererereleases. It's the same game with a few bits and bobs and yet people only seem to complain about Skyrim and GTA V re-releases. Yet nobody seemed to mind when they made ultra sun and ultra moon and released it in the same console generation like a year after sun and moon.


21:03
and that's why youtube removed dislikes!


This is a very solid take on consoles as a whole, although the diehard fan base is most problematic for Nintendo, companies like Microsoft and Sony have their own fair share of people who downright promote and support anti consumer actions under the mislable of pro-consumer, such like saying that it helps all players that some games are exclusive to a piece of plastic.


guarantee that most of the hate will be "OH SO UR TELLING PEOPLE TO HATE NINTENDO" when you literally fucking said that's absolutely not your intention AT ALL

@ddd Emp is saying that people need to start standing up to Nintendo's practices and treating it like you would any other company, simple as that no emotional output needed

@Andy Blanton I like Nintendo, I admit these kinds of moves are stupid, and I don't feel <i>guilty</i> over it. I just think they shouldn't bother doing any of these moves. However, I do feel bad for the actual game devs that push hard with their actual games. Just like Sonic Team, they don't deserve to be with a company like Nintendo.

@Andy Blanton I like Nintendo, I admit these kinds of moves are stupid, and I don't feel _guilty_ over it. I just think they shouldn't bother doing any of these moves. However, I do feel bad for the actual game devs that push hard with their actual games. Just like Sonic Team, they don't deserve to be with a company like Nintendo.

@ddd There's only one problem with what what you said. Even when Nintendo actually improves their mistakes, which most companies don't do, would they actually win back the reception of the very few people that even know about this (a few million isn't enough for Nintendo to actually pay attention to, and that's how many people know about any of these issues)?

@Andy Blanton no, he is telling don't let Nintendo do shitty things like how we do with any other game companies. If you feel guilty for liking Nintendo after this video then that tells me you have done some of the fan boy stuff he mentioned and you don't like that he pointed it out

You're right. He isn't telling people to hate Nintendo. He's telling people to feel guilty if they like Nintendo.

@ddd He says absolutely nothing about wanting people to hate nintendo. He's merely pointing out how nintendo as a company does some really shitty things to its own fanbase and that the fanbase simply lets them. If anything emp wants more vocal constructive criticism about nintendo and to hold nintendo responsible. Hatred and malice have absolutely 0 to do with this

But he is saying people should hate Nintendo? They deserve to be hated for their bad decisions until they redeem themselves by taking them back. That is literally the point of the video.

@Timdeuces They're not my family. I know damn well that these companies don't care about people on an individual basis. Not me, not you, not even OP.

The point I'm making is that Nintendo games have had a big impact on my childhood and adolescence, so naturally I want to see them do good and succeed. Don't be so cynical, for fucks sake.

@Dr_Popcorn there you go again, treating the corporate entity as if it were a family member

I tbh hate them ,but for how they are and get away with what they do.

I already hate majority of the current industry in its current state

yeah but that's just standard for youtube videos nowadays, isn't even just a thing with nintendo

it's not that people hate nintendo, it's that nintendo keeps doing things to make it look like they hate us.
the fact that emplemon is making this video proves he's a fan. as being a fan doesnt mean turning a blind eye for the shit they pull on us.
as a nintendo fan with a spine and relative maturity (at least, i think i grew in the past decade) i understand they are a company first. even though they arent as bad as some other companies, that doesnt let them off the hook with the shit they pull on us.
you know, there is such a thing as critiquing something you love in hopes they do better. and that's what i see this video as.

Many people don't realize that you don't need to hate something in order to criticize it. In cases like this, the criticism comes from a place of LOVE, because Emp and so many of us want Nintendo to be better.


"Nintendo murdered the competitive scene but... but... EA has microtransactions in their game!1!! You can't blame nintendo when EA did so much worse!!1!"

@pika pi 692 I think Nomad is making fun of someone else who said that. Hence the quotation marks.

nintendo also has microtransactions in their mobile games like mario kart on mobile


I'm still super upset about what happened with emuparadise


4:29 there’s a GameCube in McDonald’s playing sonic riders…wow what a throwback


Nintendo games are incredible
The consoles are the best out there in uniqueness only
Nintendo video game music IS THE BEST
Reggie is fine

That's it
F the fans
F the company
F Nintendo


When corporate focus overtakes passion, artistic expression becomes impossible

@Youtubeeee Wait, so according to you only the BEST games count as having creativity and passion? I thought you were advocating for artistic liberty! Not to mention that having the same character does not mean the games are the same. A lot of Mario games are incredibly different from each other. You also forgot Kirby games, Metroid games, Wii sport-like games, Pokemon games (although the new ones are pretty stagnant, but that's because the logistical nightmare that is the Pokemon franchise), Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Star Fox, Donkey Kong games, Pikmin games, Wario Ware games, etc. They also make a lot of games that are less known because they weren't best sellers but were pretty good. Nintendogs was an amazing pet game, really one of the bests I have ever played.

Their creativity and experience is not being questioned here, their business practices are.

Define corporate focus please. Meybe instead of bitching about them all day you boycott them and get everybody you know to do the same. That's how you get them to change their policies

That's the frustrating thing with Nintendo. They always seem to have incredible games. Those games are like heroin to the Nintendo fanboys. If artistic integrity was compromised I assure you Nintendo would die in like a year.

@Youtubeeee I wouldn't go that far. They have very capable developers who know how to make games and have passionate and creative vision. Not even EmpLemon denies that, as he even says they can keep cranking out, and I quote: "masterpiece after masterpiece without a sweat". It's that their business practices are ancient, which is expected from a Japanese company incredibly proud on their roots. Times have changed, but they have difficulty changing themselves, just like almost every japanese company.

eh, i like their games, even though they have business practices i don't agree with.

Maybe cooperations goals are always to make money, <b>but hey that's just a Theory, A GAME THEORY.</b>

Maybe cooperations goals are always to make money, *but hey that's just a Theory, A GAME THEORY.*

what artistic expression? theyve been making the same games for 30+ years, nothing new just copy and paste the same crap that sold

You saying EA is just an more developed Nintendo?

@tHEChannel The entire state of connecticut was sacrificed to Nintendo back in 2007 during the housing crisis.

@Connecticut Ball of course Connecticut would say that


and now the dislike button doesn't exist anymore cool


I mean you gotta know a lot of those Nintendo stans on twitter are bots right?


Love Nintendo but damn are they bad at customer service and basic decent manners


@The TBH Resistance A. Didn't put words into your mouth, the dangling keys were your example, not mine. B. I actually agree with your second point, but it's a nigh impossible feat. As nice as a "revolution" against Nintendo would be, it's about as likely as it is with any other game company

@The TBH Resistance you can do it if you want but it's pretty improbable because of consumerism

@The TBH Resistance I mean, you said to stop getting excited "when they dangle new keys". What exactly do you define as key dangling? If it's releasing something or unveiling something new after doing something bad, then <b>every single Nintendo release</b> is that nowadays

@The TBH Resistance I mean, you said to stop getting excited "when they dangle new keys". What exactly do you define as key dangling? If it's releasing something or unveiling something new after doing something bad, then *every single Nintendo release* is that nowadays

@FreshTillDeath56 If that's the case, we're all doomed

Dude their games are fucking awful these days. All of them are the most blatently unfinished pieces of shit I've ever seen these days. If anyone else released them, they would get FLAMED.

their games honestly haven't been very good anymore either

Except for Pokémon Sword and Shield, those were deliberately bastardized (But that's a whole other story)

@Spacial Rend  Money is the only thing they're listening to.

@Sho i mean Luigi's Mansion and Smash were great, and metroid dread looks pretty good, but yeah otherwise I completly agree.

The games aren't even good now either, at best they're just fine but nothing that comes close to their older classics from GameCube and earlier. They knocked it out of the park in 2017 just to make sure that the Switch's popularity is cemented and once it was they stopped trying.

@Spacial Rend  the problem isn't that Nintendo fans are excited about new games, it's the fact that they have a complete disregard for most things bad the company does, take for example freemelees sudden disappearance once the sephiroth trailer was released.

Never getting excited for anything Nintendo ever again isn't the answer. You can still look at Nintendo and say "hey, I like x/y game" and still call them out on their practices

@Jake 0 ....then encourage those other two to see the truth, with social media it's now easier than ever to get a movement riled up, even if one of them still buys it, the other one didn't and that's a step forward.

@The TBH Resistance that'll never happen mate if you don't buy a game you can bet other two people will buy it

The solution is to stand up to their shitty policies, and not get excited when they show you new keys dangling. Step out of Neverland.


24:32 That's what I did with every Smash video involving the Sans mii costume.


Half of these dislikes are probably botted by Nintendo


The Nintendo Fandom need help and lots of it

You know what they say in the ffxiv community; You can't esuna stupid.


I love the games but not their buisness practices


Defending Nintendo's legal right is like saying CCP can do what is happending Xinjiang because it's their territory: it is not about legality but moral indecency.

<b>processing</b> Beep boop laws protecting large interests are more important than morality.

*processing* Beep boop laws protecting large interests are more important than morality.


I think matpat delibrately made Sakurai look like a dying puppy to justify calling him a crusader fighting back from Iwada "threatening melee's good name" by adding online capability.

thats just me though

MatPat definitely contributed to this stupid Daddy Sakurai mentality.


Holy hell, Seamus! SSoHPKC! Wow. Haven't seen any other YouTubers mention him since The Creatures ended. The first ever YouTuber I subscribed too.


I  Wonder how much dislikes this video had


I recall there being people saying things like "Iwata wouldn't have wanted this" to some of Nintendo's recent decisions, but... do we really even know that? Just because a lot of bad decisions were made after his death doesn't mean that Iwata wouldn't have agreed to any of them. Not to say that there weren't recent decisions that he most likely wouldn't have agreed with, since some did go against certain quotes that he has made and decisions like the EVO 2013 situation appeared to be more on Nintendo of America (thank you to BrawlZeroEight for informing me of this), but we don't truly know everything. Any person who is generally seen as nice can do mean things. Iwata did a lot of arguably good things, yes, but people are complex. We can agree to one thing a person does but disagree to another thing that they do.

Honestly people go a bit over the top praising the work of Iwata. I am not saying he doesn't deserve it, the man was amazing and his phrase of him being a gamer at heart perfectly captures his character, but at the same time he was the guy who was in charge of the company when the Wii U happened and you can't deny that the Wii U was a failure and in part it had to do with some of the decisions Iwata made.

Again, Iwata still did some amazing stuff, without him we wouldn't have Smash Bros, but at the end of the day he was a human being and he comitted mistakes

@iBenjamin1000 I find it more likely that many of these moves were proposed back when Iwata was around and came back to the table some time after his passing

thank you. I keep seeing comments on videos like this, about how all of this shit started after Iwata's death. It's awful that he passed away, but it feels like we have this case of post-mortem idol worship that is not entirely deserved or warranted. Somhow, I'm not convinced that all of this would be prevented just with Iwata being alive. And we can't rely on him anyway. We have to take action ourselves.

@BrawlZeroEight you can sell your own splatoon manga in japan and you will be fine

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That reminded me of the RWBY Conundrum of “Monty’s Vision “...

@Mario Adventure 2 I am sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to say that Iwata was the problem to anything, as we truly don't know everything. My intent was just that I think that it is important to view things from a distance due to people being so complex in their opinions and decisions. I think that I did not word my original comment well, and that is my fault. I think that your mention of Japanese culture is very noteworthy, so thank you for bringing that to my attention as well.

@BrawlZeroEight Thank you for informing me of this. I have made sure to edit my comment to incorporate those things and have mentioned you as well, as you had notified me of this.

People need to stop bring him into things and let him rest.

Iwata is not the problem, the Japanese culture is.

Decisions like that could be more on Nintendo of America. To my knowledge Nintendo never interfered with Smash tournaments in Japan so it's hard to say what they would or wouldn't do. Regardless there are a lot of things Nintendo does nowadays that directly contradict things Iwata said, like Nintendo never going into mobile games or doing paid online.


I knew that Nintendo fans were a circlejerk of bootlickers, but this was worse then I could have imagined


And now Dragalia Lost falls as well. Nintendo takes another one


This is all to true aswell with the Pokemon Company, the new games won't get better they just won't maybe everynow and then it will be fun but not going to hold my breath.


Ah yes. The conversation I been having for 25 years...


It’s a Japanese company they never work in conventional ways


this explains why there internet connection might be ass in smash ultimate


You missed the opportunity to point out how Nintendo started from the yakuza


ya
its literally a community of kids
and cant no one tell me different


Nintendo should've gone out of business in 2008 in my opinion


Your think the super fans would know that if you really care about something you'd criticize the missteps.


While i agree with gabe, pricing is a problem, games have been becoming more and more expensive with less and less content  and to make it worse content is often cut out and sold at insane prices for what little they add. Then there is the problem with region pricing where steam is at fault. EU people pay significantly more via steam then US users because the price number in dollars and euros is the same. But in actuality the price is higher in euro, this is worse in non euro countries where you are forced to pay in euro especially when those are poorer countries but still have the same stupid expensive prices. In our cases piracy becomes an obligation especially in cases of garbage "ports" which are just games slapped to a built in emulator and barely running like the souls games on steam and many others predominantly former console games that sadly suffered due to that.


Despite my love for Nintendo's games and music, I will agree with you that Nintendo is a very flawed company that needs to be put in line. The crap they're getting away with is unjustifiable. I see what you're saying, and even though we are fans of Nintendo's stuff, it doesn't mean you should turn a blind eye to their blatant flaws.

I mean I do you one better. Love the products but hate the company. If there is something you don't like like some product, don't buy it, even criticize it if you want.

It’s based to love a company for their quality games while also criticizing their shitty behavior. I never understood this notion that something should never be criticized for any reason (and I mean genuine criticism not harassment) because it shows your passion for something and you don’t want that thing you enjoy degrade in quality


Nintendo want to be the Disney of Video Games with the exact same kind of fans, but Nintendo is half as competent at being evil while being twice as petty.

Nintendo is not evil! The real evil one is Disney


I knew this would be mentioned one day or sooner. The Fans ( the extreme ones ) are toxic since the console wars.

My shift to Playstation was a good option from the start

Edit: Playstation got good games now


This is the whole industry unfortunately.


Sonic fanbase: I can’t believe that our games and fanbase is the worst

Nintendo: (Does something malicious)

Sonic fanbase: Oh, nevermind

Honestly Sonic fans have really mellowed out nowadays. There’s still plenty of obnoxious fuckers out there but most of them are super chill and passionate.

Even though there's alot of controversy with the fans and Sega in general....(especially after that new teaser trailer)
There is one thing that Sega does that Nintendont:
Actually let their fans express themselves without worrying about dumb copyright rules!
Heck Sonic Mania even had some fans working on the game!


"Now it's time for Nintendo's fans to save themselves" ....  the flaw with your thinking is that the archetype of "Nintendo fan" encompasses a wide variety of people. Most of which dont even know about competitive melee or splatoon, let alone the controversy that surrounds that with Nintendos practices. Anyone could find tweets from miss informed fans claiming sakuri is a innocent angel. And use them to paint all fans in this light. But if your into the gamer YouTube space you'll see alot of people share your sediment about Nintendo's way of handling its IP's. The way I see it.. more influence = more scrutiny and Nintendo has the largest influence.

That’s pretty much what I’m saying too.

EmpLemon here is talking about stuff in the Smash community as his main argument, and that would be fine if he was only criticizing Smash, but instead he generalizes the entire Nintendo community as “bootlickers and drones”.

That’s pretty much what I’m saying too.

EmpLemon here is talking about stuff in the Smash community as his main argument, and that would be fine if he was *only* criticizing Smash, but instead he generalizes the entire Nintendo community as “bootlickers and drones”.


25:15 LOOK GARY THERE I AM!

This is an excellent video showcasing just how awful Nintendo is. The biggest waste of money Nintendo spends is on PR. Their fans on Twitter do it for free.

I made an entire rant in November of last year about the whole Free Melee situation while also showcasing other issues such as the lack of a Virtual Console, Joy-Con drift, and overpriced Wii U ports. At this point I honestly could care less about the company. If they ever make Mario Kart 9, I'll be excited and will probably get it. But now? I don't get excited for Nintendo Directs, could care less about the rumors, and honestly feel zero attachment to the company.


Nintendo and Tesla mega fans should be considered cultists at this point.


18:24
Oh my god I've met that guy at my work LMAO


"omg hecking nintendo i love muh switch and my flippin marvels movies!" - people who defend nintendo probably


The Nintendo fan response to this video will be “He’s just mad we owned him on Twitter!” Calling it now

@The_Dark_Jumper goddamn. 10 years? That's impressive. I was like 12, didn't usually play games but was still interested in getting a DS. Thats really weird

@PON PON PATA PON I think there are positives and downsides to each platform. Reddit might be seen as a joke because of many of its obnoxious communities, but the smaller knit ones and other communities such as writingprompts slightly make up for that. 4Chan might be toxic in many corners, but it's hard to deny that it's an iconic corner of the web. I feel like Twitter is the Walmart of social media. It's everywhere, hard to get away from. Sure, your average Joe Schmoe can be found there, but it being as accessible and prevalent as it means there's ample room for unintended consequences. It's hard to say that it's a truly terrible platform because then you'd be calling Joe over there a bad person when all he's done is just stand there, but it's hard to be kind to it when the people standing next to Joe are unhygienic, weigh 600 pounds, and have their underwear sticking out of their pants.

I had my account in Twitter taken down for sharing a veggietales meme and I've been so much better ever since.

As someone who hasn't touched a Nintendo console in over 10 years, my first reaction to him bringing up his tweet was "it's a tweet from last year, are you seriously still salty about it?"
...
Then I read the replies it generated. I couldn't care less, yet I'm still fucking mad.

I’m a Nintendo fan and I agree with his points.

@PON PON PATA PON True. Can we all just agree that all social media platforms have their ups, but are mostly complete dogshit

He is just mad we owned him Twitter kek

Being sarcastic if you couldn't tell

“Wow look at this man baby cry! Cope harder manchild and go touch some grass!” ~ Inevitable Twitter Comment

GOD I FUCKING HATE TWITTER. everyone rags on 4chan and reddit but we forget the real monster, <b>twitter.</b>

GOD I FUCKING HATE TWITTER. everyone rags on 4chan and reddit but we forget the real monster, *twitter.*


“👉😝👈 lalalala I dont care nintendo is
best company praise lord sakurai”

This is how yall sound

Nintendo also destroyed Zelda for me, Breath of The Wild is a Ubisoft game, light years behind in passion from the Zelda that i know from the Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess years.

There's no Nintendo game that i hate more than Breath of The Wild, then i learned that it has DLC bullsh*t and that's when i stopped caring.

Never liked Mario, i was more of a Sonic fan. Pissed off with Miyamoto and bullsh*t excuses for the lack of a F-Zero sequel to GX....

I'm a Nintendo fan but mainly a PC gamer and i bashed Sakurai in the past 😂😂😂😂.

The online from Ultimate did improve, but at this point, Pokémon Unite which is free, has way better online lmao.


As a metroid fan, Am2r hurt me on the inside for a while (I still pirated it heheheha)


Honestly speaking, while there are indeed the fans who do defend Nintendo no matter what they do, it is the majority of the people who do treat Nintendo as "just another company" who don't care enough either way to do anything about it.

The general consumer which probably makes up 85% of sales don't care or know about Nintendo and their antics with the competitive side. You honestly can't do anything about that. They really don't care.


"Dont ask me for anything ever again"<br>~Nintendo, after excecuting someone making an fangame

"Dont ask me for anything ever again"
~Nintendo, after excecuting someone making an fangame

Im surprised nintendo hasnt massacred a smash tournament with nintendo trademarked gunmen

@AxxL <br>Im actually suprised you replied to one of my comments lol

@AxxL
Im actually suprised you replied to one of my comments lol

GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear run


To quote Jessie from breaking bad Nintendo can’t keep getting away with it they can’t keep getting away with it


Slightly off topic, but I love that you included Karn Evil 9, 1st Impression in the video's music. ELP ftw!


from now on, any time someone asks me why I refuse to buy a Switch or new Nintendo products, I'll link them this video

@M64bros >"What about the developers and Sakurai."<br>what about the people? what about yourself and your peers?

@M64bros >"What about the developers and Sakurai."
what about the people? what about yourself and your peers?

How about no. What about the developers and Sakurai. That's just a lazy excuse to get away with.  People are actually using Iwata's death as an excuse in a disturbing way. I wrote a letter to Nintendo telling them that Those people are doing it and surprisingly they responded to me. You know Sakurai mentioned that people don't like it when he sees people use his face as an excuse. So I'm guessing he doesn't like it when he sees people using Iwata's death as an excuse in a disturbing and disgusting way. We should respect the developers manners. Go to the hashtag and you'll see what I mean

#SaveNintendo

Yes I am serious and truthful. I never lie


Part of the problem I think is that fans associate Nintendo games and the fan community with the company itself. They are fans of the former two and confuse that with the company itself. I've been a fan of nintendo games my whole life and thats been my experience. I've since had to make the distinction of calling myself a fan of their games, rather than the company itself. They are in every respect the Disney of videogames, for all its good and bad. They are forgiven because they provide people with a lot of fun new experiences as well as nostalgia for a simpler time, they've supplied us with a lot of comfort and community from an early age, just like disney has for so many. But as a company they've been sketchy and scummy most of the time... and I think as fans we need to be more vocal about this stuff and stand up for ourselves, so that the things we actually do love, the games, can be in more deserving hands than the ones they are currently in.


All my friends just pretend like I didn't say anything when I bitch about things Nintendo has done with proof that they're actually not out of touch and do this stuff out of joy and that I have made an effort to stop giving them any of my money. It would make me sad and disappointed if it wasn't something I fully expect from people now. I was one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys, but I guess I have a shred of self respect where I can't bring myself to keep giving them money while they're in the process of shitting in my mouth and sometimes putting a Walmart brand cookie in it if I keep paying them.


This is why I literally only play Nintendo games when they're emulated. I don't wish to support the devil.

But Project + that's a different story.

They absolutely terrible, but devil? Nah


I think the issue is that Nintendo is just plain old fashioned. The execs still see the world through lenses that haven’t changed since the 1900s, and that probably won’t change until all the old executives are gone.

@daniloberserk  didnt really mean to do that. Just saying japan has had quite a problem with social stagnation in thier history is all. I live in hawaii, so I feel more closer to japan and south korea as democratic countries than america. Hawaii is like the least American state in my opinion, you get influence from everywhere,   being born and growing up in maui. I always thought everyone took thier shoes off before they went inside,to my surprise  whenever I visited the east and west coast that wasant the case I was surprised when I first realized how many little things in hawaii where influenced by japan and as an extension my morals and little mannerisms while growing up.

Yep. That's Japan, but let's give our NA sticker of superior morality to criticize how the outside world works.

Fun Fact:<br>Nintendo share networking hardware and netcode with the Samsung SF1700 FAX Machine from the 1990s.

Fun Fact:
Nintendo share networking hardware and netcode with the Samsung SF1700 FAX Machine from the 1990s.

That's less of Nintendos problem and more of Japan's work place policy and political stance that rooted itself into thier society  and has caused many other stemming problems for the structure of everyone's daily life over there. But  of course,it leads into politics and wouldn't ya know it everyone in this industry dosent want to touch policy with a ten foot pole because the topic of video games are partly founded in escapeisim and thus the subject is avoided. Also dosent help that Japan's youth are litteraly tought Jackshit about litteraly anything to do with politics,  which keeps local and government policy largely the same and stagnant. Thus leading all the way down to the problem you see before you.

By then they passed their views to the younger ceo, I don't think any of this is going to change tbh.


Alright, seriously guys, if you’re nientiendo-nigga you doesn’t deserve not even the basic human rights. It’s written in the Quran, the torah and the Bible


The ratio thing cracks me up. You so much as say the wrong thing on  Reddit you can get ratio'ed out of existence and they really think a company making a massive mistake won't impact their fanbase? Come on.


EmpLemon is an absolute prophet. Nintendo pulled another one with their upcharged side grade that's $50 more for a slightly bigger screen.

@The Plasmic Alchemist I bought a red MGS PS4 not long before the slim was announced. Happens to someone buying any console, and even video cards (albeit without the aesthetic aspect). Hell, I bought an NES copy of Fire Emblem Gaiden only three weeks before the remake was announced, over 25 years after its original release.

@Wanted Wario Im severely disappointed with the switch’s performance. This console has shaky frame rates for every major first party game it produces. Keep in mind these games are tailor made for the system. This isn’t a technology problem, they have all the resources and money to develop consoles with much better performance that are cheeper than other consoles. Look at Xbox, who is currently struggling to keep up with Sony, managed to miniaturize their console in a similar sized package as the switch yet it can pull off 1080/4k with modern games with good frame rates at the right settings for the same price. Nintendo just 3 years earlier failed at pulling off a console that performs well at 720. This is not a hardware issue. This is a corporate issue. They put the minimum amount of effort into everything then the public buys it because they have effectively held several talented game studios hostage for years and the only way to get the games from those studios is to buy Nintendos inferior product. The nintendoids will ignore this lack of effort as Nintendo throws in some worthless gimmick that just holds the system back and they will clap and cheer like its some great achievement and then they go and buy all 4 versions of the same pokemon game

@Wanted Wario yeah go tell that one to all the 3DS revisions

@The Plasmic Alchemist  Console revisions for the Switch are required unless they decide to ditch the switchable console idea in the future. Plus, there would ever only be one Switch Pro if there was going to be one. As it is the Switch drastically underperforms and has struggled with even first party games since it released. It desperately needs a worthwhile update.

I don't even like the idea of console revisions to begin with. I had been chasing the newest 3DS model during the family's entire lifespan. Just when I got my Cosmo Black, Pokémon XY have a limited edition XL. Once I got that, the New 3ds is already out. I finally get a new xl, <b>AND LITERALLY THE NEXT FUCKING DAY,</b> a Poké Ball 2ds xl is announced. There was not a single break that I could catch, and I was too stubborn of a brat to give up the chase. I'm so glad the OLED came out the way it did because it means I can skip it, and save up for a REAL improvement!

I don't even like the idea of console revisions to begin with. I had been chasing the newest 3DS model during the family's entire lifespan. Just when I got my Cosmo Black, Pokémon XY have a limited edition XL. Once I got that, the New 3ds is already out. I finally get a new xl, *AND LITERALLY THE NEXT FUCKING DAY,* a Poké Ball 2ds xl is announced. There was not a single break that I could catch, and I was too stubborn of a brat to give up the chase. I'm so glad the OLED came out the way it did because it means I can skip it, and save up for a REAL improvement!


Hey hey hey you leave hello games outta this Sean and the team went back at it and made it all better....more than you can say for Bethesda Nintendo or multiple other game authors....and Sean didnt charge for all the updates and expansions soooo theres that too

The poor guy was making an indie game with triple A marketing and expectations, unlike Nitendo or Bethesda, no man sky launch seemed like an honest mistake.


While it's true that John Carmack released the Quake engine as open source, that didn't happen until a year after HL's release. Valve licensed the Quake engine from id Software.


I actually made a video about how everyone was clamoring for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 to be in Smash (whether Rex or Pyra) and the Pokémon Gen 4 remake. How Nintendo finally listens to us on that and then made a joke about Nintendo ramming a GameCube controller up our ass if we don’t shut up about Melee


I don’t think it particularly that good, Emps other video are definitely better this one kinda fell apart after the second half where Emps disdain over his twitter dispute, I’m glad he called the bootlickers as a Nintendo fan who wants the company to improve it was reviting  but that section came across as a but it too hostile.


I'm sure I'm rather late on this, but to offer a discenenting opinion, I do think this video is rather cruel to Nintendo fans. I believe it unreasonable to say that fans make defending a company their life because they "owe" them. We support Nintendo because they still churn out incredible games. I don't remember Mario 3, I still play Botw and Mario Odyssey, that's why I bought a switch. I don't wish to condone what Nintendo does to competitive communities and modders, however saying the fans are making it their lives when modders and competitive players literally make it into their lives is a bit off putting to me personally. Not trying to step on any toes here, but calling it "The Church of Nintendo" implys that when considering your purchase of a console it should matter to me that I'm supporting the company that maliciously steps on the relatively small community that is melee. The supporters that keep Nintendo alive aren't the ones on twitter, it's those of us buying products because they're quality (Not saying all of them are, however I buy Mario cause I like it, not out of reverence).

@Thrasher146 I don't neccesarily disagree, I more aim to disagree with the idea that Nintendo lives off of past admiration from people who feel like they owe them something. I think Nintendo lives off of still making great products, honestly the defense of twitter is likely completely irrelevant to Nintendo's success.

i dont see how you find it justifiable to defend the company's bad actions. I can get if you just want to ignore them and play all their cool games, but trying to defend some corporation on something they did which was objectively immoral on the basis of the nice games they produce is just plain stupid. bill cosby was a pretty good actor, but that fact does not justify defending the things he did. criticism should be applied regardless of someone or somethings good deeds, no matter how good those deeds are.


this video could not be any more true then it is i have ben noticeing this happening since the dam wii u. and 3ds. its just udderly disgusting how there acting e.e nintendo allways will have a special place in my heart but i simply cant support the way they have ben acting as of late. its dishonrable. and shamefull.


Mainly because people were using Iwata's death as an excuse over the online membership. (Not even making this up) And you can blame Elijah Kaddu and Narwhale for starting the whole thing. It humiliated a lot of innocent people online. I told those people to please stop along with the others but sadly didn't believe me. So I told Nintendo about people using Iwata's death And surprisingly they responded to me. Let me show you if you're interested

Sadly you can't! It's already over. All it has sailed and forgotten.


I put down the Nintendo half a decade though, other companies both treat and cater to Adult fans .


That scene from Spongebob where Mr Krabs sucks that customers memories back out is basically just Nintendo<br>Don’t watch videos of our games, don’t listen to music from out games, don’t make your own games, hell don’t even play our games

That scene from Spongebob where Mr Krabs sucks that customers memories back out is basically just Nintendo
Don’t watch videos of our games, don’t listen to music from out games, don’t make your own games, hell don’t even play our games

@Luis Alfonso Pinto this is exactly what the video was talking about, we get it that it's in their legal right to do so. We get that you're a nintendo fanboy. We get that they could totally shut down everything they want to and they will still profit. We get that they can get away with it all even though it would benefit them and their consumers. Rewatch the video.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto are you seriously suggesting that there is no monetery incentive in actually selling a game or remaking some of the most popular nintendo games?<br>also what success does a free fan-game interrupt? it's literally free

@Luis Alfonso Pinto are you seriously suggesting that there is no monetery incentive in actually selling a game or remaking some of the most popular nintendo games?
also what success does a free fan-game interrupt? it's literally free

And also to conclude, Nintendo does have a reason to keep the melee community happy. If they want to keep them as consumers, they shouldn’t treat them like dirt.

Also to add onto you’re last point, people have every right to be angry as well at the super Mario 3D all stars game for switch. The issue isn’t that complicated though. People wanted something better,     not just rereleases. But the solution is simply not to buy it if you want something better.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto you’re right that Nintendo has the legal right to do whatever they want with their ip. However, is it wrong for people to play melee how they want to play if their legal consumers? Just because Nintendo doesn’t make profit off something, doesn’t mean it should be stopped, and even then they probably could make a deal with melee tournaments to make some cash off of it. If I bought a game 20 years ago, I should still be able to play it how I want as a consumer. Being mindless and eating up everything a company makes is dangerous thinking.

“But still buy all of our games and products you money cow.”


16:26 - Also I don't know if you've paid attention, but what you just said needs a giant asterisk on it. "In the Western World". In the Western World this is all normal. In East Asia, especially Japan, the way Nintendo acts is 100% the norm. Pretty much every Japanese company given the chance will act the same way Nintendo does in this regard. You just have to see the way they treat vtubers from Japan to see how.  They will ignore anyone small but anyone large or with a large enough MCN ends up having to get permission for the publisher for each and every game individually and it turns into a giant hassle.


26:46 I somewhat disagree with this point. I don’t think it’s pathetic to own a Switch, because it (unsurprisingly) has a lot of fun games on it, but I think it’s pathetic to act like it doesn’t have any problems, like the terrible online.

I the switch fucking sucks I bought one  to play BOTW and MH rise and the only reason I’m keeping it around is shin megami tensei 5 and if that game sucks the switch is heading into the trash (or sold on eBay).

@Wungle Kunkly Man its cool, I love the Switch too, but that shouldn’t make me tone deaf to any and all criticism of a company I have some affiliation with.I’m me and my identity shouldn’t be tied to the products I consume.

@Saza Which ironically is what I was saying, I’m sorry I didn’t see it.

@Wungle Kunkly I think him saying Switch owners are Pathetic was an obvious joke/jab at the Fanboys loyalty to a company.I don’t see a reason to get too offended, especially when the video isn’t meant to discourage you from buying their products, rather its too call out loyalist who ignore/dismiss any all criticism of a company.

@Joshua Graham Sorry took that wrong, but personally I still have fun with my Switch, it’s fine if you don’t.

@Joshua Graham Okay, that still doesn’t devalue other people’s opinions.


That CM Punk clip makes me wonder how good the Emp Punk documentary would be


I heard that speaking out against the company you work for in Japan is HIGHLY looked down upon.

That's not exclusive to Japan, every company is like that.

Yeah. Several guys at Konami tried that. Silent Hill and Metal Gear got axed in the process.


Damn, now I wanna go watch CM Punk's promos from 2011...


Too bad we can't ratio nintendo even if we wanted to... rip dislike button 😔


The official smash online "competitive" tournament (nentendoVS Challenge Cup) made me SO MAD! FS meter on! items ON!! and they give a prize pool WHAT THE HECK!!!! THEY HAVE NEVER EVEN GLANCED AT (the real) COMPETITVE SMASH


16:30 Shoutout for the earthbound fight music meme


So what you're saying is that many in the Nintendo community need a "Fallout 76" moment where they completely re-review their past and question just what they were thinking back then?

@CouchCog I can argue that during the Wii U period Nintendo gave fans some real good stuff, like the remakes they wanted and the games they waited. I reckon someone talked about Smash 4's additions as "Kiddening the fans" which in retrospect is very true, but at the same time they were doing the most basics of jobs by adding the most basic and recent characters there. Can it be said that they were "creating their army"? I don't believe that after the input of the Virtual Console, which was still half-baked with the distribution between the 3DS and the Wii U eShops people are still eating up the Nintendo Switch Online service. Either that or some people are just normals and casuals that want just to play with friends.

@Eternum IMO the first one is a big disappointment, did you ask for The elder scrolls: Hyrule? i didnt

The Wii U era was full of undercooked/plain bad games, and Pokémon Sword & Shield was a massive controversy, but nothing's changed. Nintendo's gonna need a combo of a crappy console with no soul, a year-long period of only bad games, and a massive crusade against fans in order for change to actually happen.

One bad game wouldn't do it, their back catalog is almost immaculate. That's the whole problem. They're not too big to fail, but they're definitely too Good... I don't want them to fail but they do need to learn a lesson here

They need to have a "Xbox one launch" moment, where the intentions of the company differ so much from the expectations of the consumers that they suffer a complete overhaul on management

@Trikki Clips except Iwata was also present and relatively high up in the corporate structure when Nintendo forced exclusivity contracts on third party developers and retailers...

He was also head of the company during the original Smash at Evo scandal. Like he was an overall good guy from what I've read but he, like me, like you, and like everybody else, had flaws. His flaws, unlike yours or really anyone elses in this comment thread, were merely magnified at the corporate scale.

@Eternum that’s more of a cultural thing. Japans a very image focused country. While it was an incredibly right thing for him to do, it’s likely iwata also did this because it made the company look better by not letting as many people off. It’s why no one gets fired in Japan, just bullied into leaving so they don’t have to say we have people quit in mass.

They did have that. It’s called the Wii U.

@Eternum I believe Iwatas passing may have resulted in Nintendos actions

@Eternum imagine if breath of the wild 2 came out bug years in cyberpunk 2077, I'd look at Nintendo in a whole new light

People knew Bethesda was bad when Fallout 4 came out a buggy mess oh, they have been re-evaluated and their status stands as mediocre.

@CouchCog You're right, if I remember correctly, Satoru Iwata cut his own paycheck in half so none of the lower workers would suffer from the financial failure.

It's gonna be hard to replicate this measure because of... well you know.

It doesn't just need to be a failure. It needs to be an ATOMIC failure.

@Eternum Honestly I think it needs another failed console like the Wii U. I don't think one shitty game will be enough.

@Rootbourne I actually think it's necessary for Nintendo to have an absolute failure. If you look at the history of other game companies, it is whenever they are losing when they begin to turn towards a more pro consumer side, and when they're winning, they start to do shit fans don't like. Unfortunately for Nintendo, it's fanbase is so zealously defensive of the company I'm afraid that it would just stagnate forever.

I’d prefer Nintendo just get their crap together so we don’t need to have a Fallout 76 moment.


Nintendo fans worship the people who work on games like celebrities and have a stan culture around these people.

I swear I could find out that Sakurai was abusing his wife or something and people were defending him saying she deserved it or some shit.

And the worst part is I wouldn’t be suprised.

Here it is whenever you're ready: https://youtu.be/2T2R3FfnO-Y

@M64bros damn I'll be sure to check it out!

Luckily for you I'm not one of them. I'm one of those people who respect Sakurai's manners. What Nintendo fans actually do besides the whole DMCA story and stuff. Is use Iwata's death as an excuse over the online membership. What if Sakurai saw people doing that? He would be sad and disappointed. He even mentioned he doesn't like it when people use his face as an excuse. So I'm assuming he doesn't like it when people use Iwata's death as an excuse as well. I did one thing no other Nintendo fan would ever have the balls to do. I legit wrote a letter to Nintendo telling them about people using the CEO's death as an excuse and surprisingly they responded to me. I've already made a couple videos about it on the hashtag if you're interested and if you want to check them them out. Don't worry they're not click-backs and on my YouTube channel I never lie. I'm always truthful and serious. New and young fans need a truthful and respectful YouTube who can tell them the truth and the reality and support them. I'm the only one who can do it. No one else will...


remember when the dislike button existed


Well, proyect M sacrifice gave us Doki Doki literally club.

What a weird sentence.

Wait, Project M being screwed over gave us that game?<br>Yeah, now I wish Nintendo didn't screw the PMDT over

Wait, Project M being screwed over gave us that game?
Yeah, now I wish Nintendo didn't screw the PMDT over


You should update this video with the release of the NSO N64 emulator


I just realized something about Metroid

They aren’t stealing Metroid’s they’re ILLEGALLY DUPLICATING THEM! METROID IS ANTI PIRACY PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED


the day i see official nintendo games release officially on steam will be the day i die cause hell has frozen over.

Why would they sell them on steam? This doesn't even feel relevant to the video


This video was shared on the nintendo reddit<br>basically the feedback was they took emp bringing up the etikons in passing and they made it seem like it was one of his big points while ignoring actual good points in the comments.

This video was shared on the nintendo reddit
basically the feedback was they took emp bringing up the etikons in passing and they made it seem like it was one of his big points while ignoring actual good points in the comments.

First mistake was expecting nintendo fans not to deflect criticism.
Second mistake was expecting Redditors not to gang up and hivemind this shit.
I mean you're confronting a hive mind within a hive mind, I'm not sure what was expected to happen here when the go to response of both is "consoom and defend the master"

@ayman aboufarise uhhh criticism is good?

@Golder06 honestly, It was an impulse comment and now I caused a storm.

@ct3000 hate to be this cheeky, but

Nothing has any real meaning, yes "nothing" has a meaning given by humans. Life has no meaning other than the meaning you yourself give it.

@ct3000 the idea that everything means nothing, while accurate, gets you nowhere.

@Jay Kelley what is life but not to cope, I mean really what's truly meaningful. Nothing, so just pretend you enjoy everything.

@oh darn, it’s me Its a good thing to come to terms with the fact that the vast majority of people aren't thinking beings. When you are driving a car, its considered vital to your survival to have the mindset that every other driver is a mindless animal. For some reason, we frown on having the same mindset for any other situation. When you finally accept the fact that gen-pop is incapable of even the most basic levels of thought, you can free yourself of having the same expectations of them that you would for those that can actually think. You will be a far happier person as a result.

WTF IS THE THREAD XD, "not human for liking nintendo" HAHAHAH HHAHAHHA HA HAHAHH HAH AHAHAHAHAHAH HAH HAHAHAHHA alright aright I'm sorry I just can't stop laughing. Even in the comment sections of masterpieces we get this unique "art" and God does it make me happy to be alive.

@Dan B. There certainly was a huge consumer mentality there with them finding insults that weren't there. Or perhaps the vitriol towards Nintendo's practices hit a little too close to home in their behavior.<br>A lot of arguments were surmising as the majority of people don't care and some agree. And as you've shown with the comments you saw, start tearing into anyone who dissents on that point with how it's such a rude thing to try and bring it up. I mean it's why videos like these are made; to hopefully raise awareness and change some people's opinions.

@Dan B. There certainly was a huge consumer mentality there with them finding insults that weren't there. Or perhaps the vitriol towards Nintendo's practices hit a little too close to home in their behavior.
A lot of arguments were surmising as the majority of people don't care and some agree. And as you've shown with the comments you saw, start tearing into anyone who dissents on that point with how it's such a rude thing to try and bring it up. I mean it's why videos like these are made; to hopefully raise awareness and change some people's opinions.

The logic in those comments seems fundamentally flawed. One person stated, "Why should I hold a company accountable for something I don't give a sh** about?" to which another responded with "You shouldn't. The people that do care are trying to gaslight others into joining the cause." That's basically like saying, "why should I hold a company accountable for polluting the environment when I don't give a sh** about the environment" and following up with "You shouldn't. People are just trying to gaslight you into joining their cause." It's funny too seeing the mod for that subreddit get his panties in a twist and cherry-picking certain parts out of the video

@CrispyWings that's not what he said<br>He said that he refuses to consider certain group of peoples as humans because their love for the company of all things is strong enough to make them delusional and ignore every criticism of company's wrongdoing or embrace it. If you don't think that you should buy everything Nintendo to support and defend them regardless of the quality of the product and Nintendo's shtty policies you are not considered nintendo fan by that person

@CrispyWings that's not what he said
He said that he refuses to consider certain group of peoples as humans because their love for the company of all things is strong enough to make them delusional and ignore every criticism of company's wrongdoing or embrace it. If you don't think that you should buy everything Nintendo to support and defend them regardless of the quality of the product and Nintendo's shtty policies you are not considered nintendo fan by that person

@FatalSyndrome I don’t really play with my switch anymore

@CrispyWings Then why do you continue to enable them?<br>Do you speak up about your broken Joy-cons? Or do you just buy another pair?

@CrispyWings Then why do you continue to enable them?
Do you speak up about your broken Joy-cons? Or do you just buy another pair?

@CrispyWings uh bad exemple, you being mad over your product not being perfect is a sign of you being a good consumer

@oh darn, it’s me uh yeah maybe a bit to streched

@GohoM that’s really not me at all, still pisses that my joycons still have drift 😤😤😤😤😤😤

@CrispyWings because you don’t see, you’re blinded by nostalgia and will defend Nintendo’s every action

@oh darn, it’s me so I’m not human because I like something that you don’t?

@nathin It's the same thing as trying to explain Scientologists how screwed up their church is.

Did anyone really expect Nintendo fans to accept criticism?


Karn Evil 9.. man, I respect your music choice!<br>Great video as always!

Karn Evil 9.. man, I respect your music choice!
Great video as always!


The only reason id buy a switch is because i kno that sega will have their own masterpieces released on it, like the new house of the dead


Talking about quake, if some of you guys are interested in algorithmic there's a pretty interesting piece of code in there called "fast inverse square root".


25:28 Santa Clause was known as Apocalypse Clause during the American Civil War. Before he got fat and cheerful.
He knows if you've been naughty and he's coming.


Dont forget how Nintendo downloaded ROMs and sold them back to the customer. Someone who ripped SMB 1 (pretty sure it was SMB 1) put something into the code, and when looked at in a hex editor, the official SMB game Nintendo was selling on the Wii had that same phrase inserted into the ROM.

@マルス Really?  Interesting. Thats still kinda strange that someone that worked for Nintendo was dumping ROMs.

Nah that was proven false. The main person to bring attention to this was Frank Cifaldi on his GDC Emulation presentations. He later found out it was false after finding out the person that made that Mario header was directly working for Nintendo and likely reused the header he made for them. So yeah this is a bad rumor gone astray.

This doesn't mean Nintendo hasn't done it before, but in this case it didn't.

yeah, nintendo got a taste of their own medicine


Nintendo is a textbook example of an L<br>Simple really

Nintendo is a textbook example of an L
Simple really


i keep coming back to this video just to wonder why is it not getting as many views as the other ones despite being both great and a somewhat controvertial topic. Is there some shady algorithm thing going on?


What's pathetic is that it's gotten so outta hand this video is a "hot topic"


When I saw mother 3 that hurt… that hurt man


The whole company could collectively commit homicide and somehow in some ways the fandom will try and spin it into a casual positive

@Carlo Nassar Have you seen just how defensive a Nintendrone is for their "perfect" messiah? I'd expect them to defend Nintendo easily.

@Carlo Nassar you're giving modern nintendo fans too much credit

@basiy
That's so unlikely. Homicide is still homicide and you don't need to expect anyone to defend it because most people (or even everyone) do not defend homicide. I'm talking about millions of people. Lots and lots of people are already mad at Disney for becoming woke and making racial swaps (example: Ariel in the remake of The Little Mermaid), and that's not even as bad as how people working at Activision Blizzard are getting sexually harassed (Yes, that's true). What makes you think a lot people will defend any company for homicide?

@basiy
That's so unlikely. Homicide is still homicide and you don't need to expect anyone to defend it because most people (or even everyone) do not defend homicide. I'm talking about millions of people. *Lots* and lots of people are already mad at Disney for becoming woke and making racial swaps (example: Ariel in the remake of The Little Mermaid), and that's not even as bad as how people working at Activision Blizzard are getting sexually harassed (Yes, that's true). What makes you think a lot people will defend any company for homicide?

@Carlo Nassar I expect a thosand at least

@Carlo Nassar Oh trust me dude, there will be at least one dude that will do that

@basiy<br>Also, I doubt anyone would defend that.

@basiy
Also, I doubt anyone would defend that.

oh no, i can already hear the agreements like, "don't blame everyone att the company for the homicide" or "but they still make good games" or "love the devs, hate the company"

If they did that, I bet Nintendo would be taken down by the law. In fact, I'd easily say Nintendo is the worst if there were sexual allegations, <i>let alone</i> homicide.

If they did that, I bet Nintendo would be taken down by the law. In fact, I'd easily say Nintendo is the worst if there were sexual allegations, _let alone_ homicide.

I'm imagining it instead as just Mario, and how it will actually happen in real life, then my mind wandered to the janitor guy Mario got his name from, and how that would explain why Mario is real.

.....

Sometimes, I wonder if I'm all here when these thoughts happen.


Just rewatched this, and I have to point out that although 60 is a bigger number than 50, the buying power of 60 dollars in 2021 is a few cents cheaper than the buying power of 50 dollars in 2011 due to inflation, so Skyward Sword """technically""" isn't more expensive. I'm not trying to defend Nintendo, they can go suck my hairy asshole, just thought I'd share what I find to be an interesting factoid.


14:00 man look at how much spawned from half life 1 and 2 damn


And the Wii U estore and 3DS are going down next year. Many games will be lost to time and well… pirating will be the only way to preserve them. Get your funds in before May friends.


At this point, we should all realize this. No company is a Saint, some might be worse then others and the best ones might be okay. They sometimes make dumb decisions (or more like keep doing them) but in the end, we shouldn't really view them as heroes or makers of our childhood, one could be petty or one could be a monster in disguise.

But something that bothers me is some aspects of the people here, some people  take this with so much frustration and anger that, it just sounds like mindless hate and not actual criticism (even thought it is, is just the wording sounds God awful and so rude that they will take it as a insult and not a way of bettering their decisions.)

And even then, it is in their right or rule that they can copyright it, for better or for worse.


Corporations are not your friend. All they care about is making a profit and they will do whatever it takes to ensure they succeed.

epicgames sued apple and forced gaystation and xbox to cross platform. Name one other company that did that.

Even I'll be one,but hoping be one not like this


Why do people do all this shit for a company who doesn't do shit for them and will never give a shit about their opinions or views?

The shills are obvious , but normal consumers realise they are just a company that makes products with money being in their best intrest, people buy nintendo to play nintendo, people buy playstation to play playstation they don’t think about the intricacies,.


12:00 loving the ELP! <3 Plus the Pink Floyd and Kansas album art- some prog love here ;)


When Nintendo announced Sethiroth for Smash I was genuinely confused why people forgot all the bad shit recently up to that. Glad that I'm not the only one still pissed at Nintendo.

@Husty06 Damn dude I hope everything is okay now

@Dædalus idk I just forgot about it bc I had a lot going on in my life. Surprised you came back to this too though

@Dædalus Why yes I agree with your statement and hell, we wouldnt have video games without Nintendo. But your downplaying how bad a company can use its services to hinder potentials and peoples livelyhoods.

Mostly is because of Nintendo ignoring the backlash, waited to an important event like Game Awards so people wouldn't be thinking about how Nintendo fucked Melee and then announce Sephiroth so our minds will be thinking about it and not the other stuff.

@EmblemBlade9 yeah it’s sad that a lot of Nintendo fans are that pathetic

I actully didn't heard all of this smash and splatoon drama before sephiroth reveal

That just means that the people who fed into the hashtag never really cared to begin with. It’s sad that you thought they did.

@buttbutt12 that's about what I said. They want things gone and we as a fanbase let it happen.

@the pasta progenitor I don’t think Nintendo is that good at sweeping things under the rug it’s mainly fans choosing to forget or not caring at all, like how casual ultimate fans didn’t care about #freemelee

As one of the forgetters, we litterally just forgot. Nintendo, if nothing else pr-wise, knows how to sweep bad shit under the rug and the general fanbase does well in helping by hyping up new product to consume.

Twitter likes to latch on issues and suck non-issues dry of their joy lol

Smash Bros gets a ton of attention from the casual audience and the casual audience could not give less of a shit about the competitive scene.

Im also glad I'm not alone. That part of the video scratched an itch.


One of the main points of this video is gone because YouTube is removing dislikes.


Liked because of Karn Evil 9 (And I agree with everything you say).


Die hard Nintendo fans have the tism they cannot be reasonable about the tendo.


If a given issue appears over, over, over and over again, its no longer "a few bad apples". Its a systemic issue that needs a bigger, broader solution.

@Blacktain Falcon and yet, they are still not as hated by the wider gaming community as a whole. Its almost like i said all gaming companies have shitty business practices and that nintendo has the most destructive and prevalent ones. Sega and sony arent perfect, but are sure leagues better than nintendo

@Mr. Onay ok well my use of the word "attacking" wasn't meant in a derogatory fashion. But by definition, they are attacking Nintendo. My problem isn't that they are attacking Nintendo. It's the fact that they are ONLY attacking Nintendo. And yes, Sega and Sony do similar practices all the time (they just aren't as vocal about it). Sony took down the Mother soundtrack last week (and if we're talking movies, they are the biggest culprit). I'd concede that Sega is one of the tamer companies but they also take down fan projects/music. And yeah I know they hired fan developers on 1 single occasion (which is a good thing) but that doesn't excuse the many other times they took something down. For example, check out the Streets of Rage fangame Sega took down.

@Blacktain Falcon For one, constructive criticism about bad business practice isn't "attacking". Second, their actions are not the norm in the industry. Not even the norm in the japanese industry. Sony and sega are not this balls deep into gate keeping their own content and stomping on their fanbase. Every company has shitty practices but nintendo has some of the worst and they get away with it because their fanbase has no spine with which to stand up against their cult leader of a company

@Mr. Onay well you've got a point. But as a Nintendo fan myself, it's really annoying how these Youtubers keep attacking Nintendo when their actions are the norm in the industry.

@Blacktain Falcon No clue why "yall" think its just an eastern problem. Many western companies do the same if they can

@DigitalZ I'm thinking about making a video about this but literally every Japanese corporate video game company does the exact same thing. Taking down music? Check. Taking down fangames? Check. Taking down fan tournaments? Cha-Ching!

I have no clue why yall give Sega a get out of jail free card when they do the exact same thing (Streets of Rage fangame for example).

@priest of Ronald alt they sued them once before (over Joy-con drift), we can sue them again when there's enough of us

Someone should sue Nintendo for anti consumer behaviour

This applies much more strongly when the issue in question has a single common factor. Nintendo.


Most of the games are allready not cobyright protected since cobyright law at first was not made to last for eternity.

The law that said this expired in 2010 and never renovated, why am i not surprised?


Nintendo fans sound a lot like Rockstar fans tbh and the companies are both similarly ruthless towards and uncarring of their fanbases


Nintendo has done a FANTASTIC job of completely seperating their "corporate side" and their "good ol' humbled indie" side.<br>Babyfaces like Sakurai, Miyamoto and Reggie shield the terrible legal and business practices from the "normies". Thats why theres such a fanbase of people wanting to defend them at all costs, because they dont even realise that the good guys they see in Nintendo's presentations are only a 2-3 people in a sea of employees who do not give a single crap about anything other than you buying your girlfriend the new animal crossing game.

Nintendo has done a FANTASTIC job of completely seperating their "corporate side" and their "good ol' humbled indie" side.
Babyfaces like Sakurai, Miyamoto and Reggie shield the terrible legal and business practices from the "normies". Thats why theres such a fanbase of people wanting to defend them at all costs, because they dont even realise that the good guys they see in Nintendo's presentations are only a 2-3 people in a sea of employees who do not give a single crap about anything other than you buying your girlfriend the new animal crossing game.

Sakurai mentioned he doesn't like it when people use his face as an excuse. So I'm guessing he doesn't like it when he sees people using Iwata's death as an excuse in a disturbing and disgusting way. Don't believe me? Check out the hashtag I made and yes it contained a bunch of videos that a lot of people agreed on. #SaveNintendo

How about we should move on. rather than bringing up the same hate over and over and over again.


"You know, back when I was a kid, I used to think you guys were cool."
-hotdiggedydemon, to Shigeru Miyamoto (representing Nintendo), 2021.

"You know, back when I was a kid, I used to think you guys were *cool."*
-hotdiggedydemon, to Shigeru Miyamoto (representing Nintendo), 2021.

Ouuhhhh, mamma mia...

*Mario Death Sound Plays*

Ouuhhhh, _mamma mia..._

**Mario Death Sound Plays**


I wanna add something. I like nintendo games a lot. I hate them as a company. Because of that I just don't even mess with anything else about them But the games because at this point I don't care enough. Thats why I imagine a Lot of their videos had a good like to dislike ratio. At this point I believe just as much people play and don't care as people who Stan in hardcore ways. The people who just watch the trailers and Say "cool, Sephiroth is in smash", drop a like and leave might me more than we think


Emplemon you are a very interesting young man


Emulation is a bliss.

I would know.

Since I Have DraStic.

Emulation is a bliss.

I would know.

*_Since I Have DraStic._*


Yeah you are right but I don’t think you understand how you really can’t group everyone into the “Nintendo fandom” given that it is so large people in it are usually not cognizant of the same things. Most of the people cheering for Sephiroths release despite Nintendo’s previous actions are not only disinterested in the modding scene but probably disinterested in the actions of Nintendo as a company, instead only focused on the things they release. They probably have no idea what is going on, because these are people caught up in other things in their day to day lives. They do not have the time to engage with media in the same way a YouTuber can. The average person (which is like 80% of the Nintendo fanbase) does not care about some mod games they never even knew existed beforehand getting shut down, or the competitive smash scene (because it’s made up of gross people). Unless you can make them actually care, you will be speaking to a wall.


Fuckin thank you, Emp. There needs to be more videos like this to remind people that some of the shit that Nintendo does is bafflingly meanspirited and detrimental to a lot of its longest, most diehard fans.


The only exception to the rule of competitive play is Pokémon, but that’s mainly bc game freak allows it, Nintendo just licenses the game, trust me, if Nintendo make Pokémon themselves, I bet they would try to ban competitive.


I feel like it's unfair to place responsibility on the consumer here
to tell people to, say, stop buying nintendo products (something which is harmful to people who want to play those games, and has very little real impact)
nintendo is just using our corrupt legal system to their advantage, and the only way to stop them and other companies would be to change THAT


WE FINALLY HAVE AN OFFICIAL NINTENDO SPONSORED MELEE AND ULTIMATE


Sephiroth is our one true God though. Through Jenova, he will deliver us to the Promised Land.


and that's why I never buy nintendo stuff, I can wait a couple years to play their so so games on my pc


i cant believe i never noticed max greenroom in the description omg


Defending powerful people is just projecting the deep seated feeling of imprisonment onto their abusers. Stockholme's syndrome. That thing people do when they're in an abusive relationship.


Jeez, no wonder Nintendo isnt popular in the Philippines. Being that greedy with money won't get you anywhere in countries where the median can't afford their bullshit, quite literally. Im so sad about the Etika tribute being shut down, and the fact that most didn't even knew about that even though Etika is a popular topic, goes to show just how effective the bootlicker Nintendo fans just disrupted the whole thing.


13:20 I like that polybius is also there


Somehow I only find out that there's a new video days after release this is the first time ever that I think I need to use the bell button


All I would like to say is that one, NDL's exist, and two, I don't think that he even did Ultimate for the money, he did it to honor a wish from his dead friend.


I remember earlier this year when people were finally realizing how terrible of a company Nintendo is, with the Free Melee stuff, the artificial scarcity, the shutting down of fan games...

And then all of that went away once Nintendo announced the newest Direct in over a year. EVERYONE worshipped it like it was the second coming of Christ. I don't think these people even understand that Directs are just commercials for products that consumers pay for. Because people acted like it was morally wrong to not be satisfied with that Direct. I literally seen someone say that it's DISRESPECTFUL to Nintendo if you're not happy or excited because of that Direct. People say the "toxic part" of the fandom are the people who complain, but that's not true at all. It's like you said, Nintendo gets away with anti-consumer practices, because whenever they get into any hot water, they just announce the new "thing" (whether it be direct or game or whatever), and all the fanboys rush to defend them. THAT is the worst side of Nintendo fans.

Yeah it's a  social phenomenon called "toxic positivity". It's pretty crazy


I like this video. Now do something similar but about Lego.


PREACH IT BROTHER!
 NINTENDO SU (KS!
#NINTENDOSUCKS


There's something hilarious about Emp mentioning people dislike bombing things from a company that does one misstep, because it's happening RIGHT NOW to miHoYo.

Genshin Impact's anniversary rewards are, lacking, and people are making sure they know that. They're dislike/review bombing Genshin, Honkai (another MHY game), and even games THEY DON'T OWN, like FE Heroes, Pokémon UNITE, Clash of Clans, Fate Grand Order, etc.

These "fans" aren't being constructive or critical, they're just destroying, bashing, and hating on things for no reason at all.

But the one thing that was a pain in the ass that other people were doing including the fans was using Iwata's death as an excuse over the online membership in a disgusting and disturbing way. It humiliated a lot of people and disturbed innocent people online. 😡


The Etika one fucking broke my heart dude. I love Etika, he was such a funny guy, Nintendo either had no idea what they were doing, or didn't realize it was for charity.<br>That, or they didn't know charity existed in the first place.

The Etika one fucking broke my heart dude. I love Etika, he was such a funny guy, Nintendo either had no idea what they were doing, or didn't realize it was for charity.
That, or they didn't know charity existed in the first place.

I don't care if the funds were going to charity or were going directly into their pockets. I hate Nintendo enough at this point where actively hurting them financially in any way is a good thing.


@Jad_ hey,
At least they embrace modding and creativity
They aren't the best,but they are better than Nintendo


Wavedashing and l cancelling were intentional


Ngl I only bought my switch for monster hunter. Which didn’t get ported to the west for 2 years.

I now have the two mhs, smash, kart, and the first zelda. I will probably get the next zelda maybe. And that’s probably it


amazing video liked and subbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nintendo has a very wide audience. If all the gamers get mad at them they will still sell to  the kids who want Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon. They don’t care if they make controversy as long as they keep selling games. Also, they are also a lot bolder now on their whole anti-consumer thing lately since the Switch is doing so well and they think they can get away with anything. The past couple of years have been downright ridiculous in the amount of things they’ve done. I won’t try to list them here but the way they’ve been “releasing” old games is a standout for me. The point is that during the Wii U era nobody was paying attention to their games, so they weren’t as awful about it. That was when their games went on sale for $20 and they actually released some of their retro stuff. They couldn’t charge for online or release games for 6 months before disappearing forever back then since nobody would buy them. This video touches on it, but Nintendo also doesn’t follow other game companies since they are older and arrogantly believe that they must be right rather than any of these “new” companies. Sometimes they are right like with the Wii. Other times they fail completely in their attempts to lead in innovation like with the Virtual Boy. The one thing they will not do is follow other companies even if it’s a good idea like providing a good online service. These are the reasons why Nintendo does awful things. <br>I think you give the fans too much credit. Maybe don’t follow video game controversies on Twitter. It’ll save you a lot of headache.

Nintendo has a very wide audience. If all the gamers get mad at them they will still sell to  the kids who want Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon. They don’t care if they make controversy as long as they keep selling games. Also, they are also a lot bolder now on their whole anti-consumer thing lately since the Switch is doing so well and they think they can get away with anything. The past couple of years have been downright ridiculous in the amount of things they’ve done. I won’t try to list them here but the way they’ve been “releasing” old games is a standout for me. The point is that during the Wii U era nobody was paying attention to their games, so they weren’t as awful about it. That was when their games went on sale for $20 and they actually released some of their retro stuff. They couldn’t charge for online or release games for 6 months before disappearing forever back then since nobody would buy them. This video touches on it, but Nintendo also doesn’t follow other game companies since they are older and arrogantly believe that they must be right rather than any of these “new” companies. Sometimes they are right like with the Wii. Other times they fail completely in their attempts to lead in innovation like with the Virtual Boy. The one thing they will not do is follow other companies even if it’s a good idea like providing a good online service. These are the reasons why Nintendo does awful things.
I think you give the fans too much credit. Maybe don’t follow video game controversies on Twitter. It’ll save you a lot of headache.


I agree with you people should not be in Neverland forever an escape should be only temporary to prevent people from becoming how should I put this disgusting because escape from reality should be temporary or else we'll take it too fall my name is Malcolm I'm signing out good night.


Can we even call it a sacrifice? When you sacrifice something you expect to get something, of equal or better quality, than what you gave, Nintendo is just straight up annihilating their fandom, but the hardcore fans are in denial

Not necessarily, as in you aren't always the one to receive the earnings of your sacrifice, but you posed a good question anyway


I believe the crash of video games may happen on 2025.


Hi, I'm the person presented at 21:52.
While I recognize that Sakurai is indeed in a higher position at Nintendo, I think it's unfair to slam him the way people have.
Yes, he's got sway power for sure but there's only so much he can do compared to the business team.

Lumping me together with the mindless Nintendo cultists is unfair since I often don't agree with Nintendo's ethics.
The recently released Expansion Pack for Nintendo Switch Online is a whole lotta nothing for what you're paying for example.
Bad emulation, incredibly lackluster extra content and DLC for a game not everyone owns that you don't even get to keep after the subscription runs out all for 30 dollars extra (20 in Europe which is still quite criminal).
It has actually driven me to emulate since the convenience of laying N64 games wherever I want to is not worth that steep a price.
(Hell I hacked my 3DS for funsies and pirate the games I want sooooo)

So, in short, I'm not a Nintendo cultist.
I enjoy the games I do which happen to be mostly Nintendo games, and if I disagree with a game or service's retail price I seek alternatives or look for better prices online.
I enjoy Smash Ultimate, I'm not a comp player by any means but shutting down a tournament because it uses a modded version of an old ass game that allows for matches online is downright terrible and something I don't think Sakurai would not be too keen on doing, especially given the state of the world at the time I posted the tweet with covid running rampant.


looks like 1.4K of fan boys saw this video


I still remember when Valve wanted to make paid mods a thing. It was awful. Thankfully they dropped it after the backlash. No company is free from sin.


Long story short: Nintendo is a great company, but their business practices are horrible


Nice inclusion of the Polybius cabinet :D