A bit late to the whole train, but here is my (unimportant) two cents on it:
Before i start, i must reveal something: i do own a nintendo Switch, bought 3-4 years after its release. Yeah, yeah, bully me, whatever. i actually bought it only for SMT5 and monster hunter Rise. be assured, it doesn't affect what i think of nintendo, the console has a couple of problems i find unacceptable (microSD port not working, for one, flimsy controllers, for two...), i don't intend to buy another, and i don't intend to buy their next console either. Unfortunately, they have a monopoly, and i'm not willing having to pay an insane amount because i wish to emulate a game.

Yes, nintendo are greedy and paranoid. give an inch, they'll take your arm, and if you try to find alternatives, you're getting smacked on the face. Ain't nothing new, and sadly, in this industry, ain't nothing exceptional. At this point, i've lost hope in most of the gaming industry. I can only hope a change in management actually sends the company in the right direction, or some gigantic market crash reminiscent of the 1983 crash comes along and changes things.

HOWEVER, I feel that, at one point in this video, you forgot to draw the line between normal consumers and nintendo fanboys. You also explain that sakurai is still pretty close to CEO in the business, which is an excellent observation, but forget to consider that maybe the reason why fans like him and present him as someone not involved in nintendo is maybe simply because they truly believe it, and not because they are consciously whiteknighting (which they are, but probably only a small part of the community). Pointing out the fact that the SSBU Sephiroth trailer didn't get affected by the controversy happening in the background is forgetting that if someone is painted well enough as an independant, this fact might actually end up staying rent-free in people's mind, whether it's true or not. And if they believe this, what would bring them to reviewbomb something that they believe to be completely unrelated?

In the end however, i completely agree with the bottomline, and i only hope fanboys realise how toxic nintendo is. Unfortunately, it's probably never going to happen without a catalyst...


we dont want this anime swordman we want this anime sword man


I love your take Emp.... buttttt im still gonna buy nintendo switch sports.


13:20 Polybius, I still get headaches and lose time.


Always lovely to get a new upload from you, Emp. Nintendo is essentially stuck at a strange crossroads where their creative department is a lot more forward thinking, while their upper management is still stuck with a very Showa Era mindset. I think part of this is due to Nintendo’s longevity as a “Shinise” company, being more than 100 years old. Companies like that in Japan tend to be extremely preservationist. But on the flip side they can also adapt when capable and, when they want to be, can be very versatile and innovative - a testament to their longevity. Nintendo needs to rediscover that spirit which made them successful in the games industry in the first place.

@The TBH Resistance I never said it was the "evil lawyers" and I actually don't think it is. Giles Goddard, one of the first westerners to actually work at Nintendo RND has gone on record expressing displeasure at how the company is run now, with it essentially being commandeered by the traditional upper echelons of the company. Iwata died, and any resistance towards the whims of the board and shareholders went out the window. There are other past employees from Nintendo that have said similar things to Giles, but at the end of the day when you're working at a straight-laced old Japanese company, no one speaks out against what's happening because you will be forced out of your job for daring to be insubordinate to the established heirarchy.

The Nintendo community definitely needs to wake up and smell the coffee though... There are a lot of people out there that are so shallow as to base their entire identity around one thing which is incredibly unhealthy. But Nintendo itself has a part to play in all this. One of the things that Nintendo has neglected which has allowed many long-lived Japanese companies to thrive is having a good relationship with their customers and community - and I think that this is a two-way street that both sides need to work on to ensure it is healthy and happy for all.

@The TBH Resistance Dude, he never once mentioned lawyers in his original post. He said it’s a problem with the entirety of Nintendo’s upper management. Even if game devs are complicit in Nintendo’s shitty business decisions, that doesn’t make what he’s saying any less true, nor does it contradict Emp’s video.

@Kaihatsu again, you are playing the "well it's those few bad lawyers" narrative that emp mentions a couple of times in the video, this argument is wrong because it disregards how companies actually work, and that maybe, you can influence Nintendo, if you make yourself heard that is.

@The TBH Resistance I commented before I watched the video in its entirety, but I agree with what was said entirely. I don’t think what I said really contradicts the video’s points.

Their games have evolved and Nintendo, at least, once a year, releases an amazing game. It's strange to see a company that seems to understand more about game design than anyone else and continues to evolve in that department, but their policies and generally the way they view people making fan games or hosting emulator sites has not changed significantly... Ever.

@EmblemBlade9 the video isn't pessimistic, all it's asking of you is to step out of Neverland.

Wow, a thoughtful comment about them that actually goes past “corporation bad” and has an optimistic outlook?

Thanks

Again- you missed the point of the video, it's not just the "evil bad legal department" this is a company wide issue that can only be fixed by you, I suggest watching the video before commenting.


insert generic not ture copypasta comment about how nintendo has the best devs but is a bad company.


Well yknow what they said back then. "God is deaf nowadays"


Ugh..    Okay.     So its like Right to repair but...  For video games>?


The emulation segment is exactly on point. I've been saying for a while that all nintendo has to do is release an official emulator on PC and people would pay for it

GamingFunnyMomentsHD if my iPhone 5 on iOS 6 released in 2012 can run SNES games pretty well whats stopping a modern day PC

@GFMHD Thats why Pokémon Platinum is capped at 30fps right? Why the music in DS games sounds awfully compressed, even if you think games run the best on the hardware they were intended for what harm does it do you if I play Pokémon Platinum how I want? Is it Mods that allow for experiences that you won't ever receive on your platform therefore nobody else can have it?

They should make a steamlike thing but for roms with a workshop for romhacks

Nintendo makes THEIR games for THEIR hardware, end of story. Each of their games use the system’s capabilities to the fullest extend, releasing them on PC makes no sense, and doing so would only open Nintendo up for more verminous pirates stealing their games.


Wow, Nintendo fans sound a lot like Elon Musk fans.


love how everyone thinks Making fan games are fine yet don't realize that you SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COMPETE WITH YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN IP'S!  how about fans take games and make new ones based off nintendo games.  Being Inspired is significantly better anyway.


>Year is 2046
>Read about Nintendo having assassinated all the students, teachers, and staff at an elementary school because a kid drew Mario in class
>Decide that this is enough and go online to criticize the multibillion dollar corporation
>About to send a simple post saying "Nintendo needs to take responsibility for the deaths they caused and send apologizes to the families of the people who died"
>Suddenly hear circus music playing faintly before I can press post
>Circus music starts progressively getting louder
>A flock of twitter users with Rainbow BLM Trans flags knock down my walls and swarm me
>Have an army of harpies screech into my ear directly about how I'm entitled for thinking about making such a post and I might hurt the feelings of millionaires that approved of the murder of several children and adults

>Silence rings for a moment
>The new trailer for Smash just released
>It's yet another Sword Fighter, but not from Fire Emblem
>The mob gleefully storm out of my house to post reaction videos to the new trailer of a 60$ solo character

@Beam3178 Not necessarily, if the video was anything to go by.

Bold of you to assume whichever group (groups?) you're referring to by "users with Rainbow BLM Trans flags" isn't also mad at Nintendo


Nintendo's like a kid who answers all the complicated math problems correctly and fails at 2+2.

@GodZpeed X7II The bait is strong in this one

No they don’t fail at 2+2 and no they aren’t

Nintendo fans: Give us good games!
Nintendo: Fuck you we are gonna make some of the greatest games of all time
Nintendo fans: Wow thank you so much for making these games that we can play the way we want to!
Nintendo: EXCUSE ME HOW DARE YOU USE OUR PRODUCT THAT YOU BOUGHT AND SPEND THOUSANDS OF HOURS ON


that technicals inclusion aint aged well


Good thing I can't see the dislikes now lol


Nintendo fans really cry more about Kazuya and Byleth being put in Smash more than the degenerative shit the company they’ve worshipped have done for years.

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣


The United States has a wonderful little thing known as the Library of Congress - a sort of method of ensuring that certain landmark pieces of media are able to be seen and enjoyed by the people of the future, in order that this media be preserved - due in part to various points, from their place in the public consciousness all the way to their technological achievements.

Look at movies like The Terminator, with catchphrases like "I'll be back" that, 40 years after release, are still in common lexicon. Look at movies like the 1930s Invisible Man or Metropolis, works of art from the early days of the medium of film that were absolute juggernauts in technological advancement.

Now look at GoldenEye 007 for the N64, a game that can singlehandedly be placed alongside games like DOOM as a game that basically created an entire genre, in FPS games specifically - a genre that still exists in massive form today. But, well... you can't play the original game. Nintendo's going to dripfeed you content from the era, but you can be sure that GoldenEye 007 will never be a part of it for the simple reason of licensing. So, well, if Nintendo can't or won't sell you the game... why not burn the ROM from the cartridge you own, that as a physical piece of tech, eventually will rot and die - and play it on an emulator? Well, how dare you suggest such a thing - you should be sued for such a crime.

Now imagine if a film like Bram Stoker's Dracula, an absolutely key part in the development of cinematographic horror, was locked to a very specific type of projector that only existed in the 1920s - and you could be sued for showing it to others, because trying to save such an important piece of media is legally wrong. Imagine what that would mean for cinema. Horror, as a genre, would be set back decades - massive films like Alien, Friday the 13th and The Shining probably wouldn't exist. But, of course... you'd be in the wrong. It's only right that you'd be sued millions for broadcasting such an important piece of film, because of contrived responses and bizarre laws.

It is my belief that if Nintendo isn't willing to sell a game to you, then... what's wrong with pirating it? If Nintendo refuse to localise Mother 3 despite nearly 20 years of people literally begging for it, then are you really in the wrong for pirating it when Nintendo's entire business strategy boils down to "Hey, remember our games? You loved them! Well, you can't play them, so don't." Sure, Nintendo releasing EarthBound literally two years late on the Wii U and charging $2 more than any other SNES ROM that they could distribute far cheaper and you could get for free online and play on a far superior emulator could be seen as a "marketing strategy," but personally? I'd say it's more of a "fuck you" toward the consumer.

Imagine if you were fined thousands of dollars for watching an 80s slasher film, just because you're not watching it on an outdated, rare and ridiclously expensive form of cinema projector. That's the situation people are in when they want to play a game like Jack Bros. on the Virtual Boy, or GoldenEye 007 on the N64... and over time, they're going to get rarer, more outdated, and more expensive. TVs don't even support the wires you'd use for consoles like the N64 anymore.

It's genuinely shocking to me that people defend this, and I say this as a literally lifelong Nintendo fan.


I have struggled with whether to buy games on their online platform or not. Would boycotting Nintendo even matter? By asking such a question you are asking whether you should go along with the masses or not. We know that nothing popular is true and nothing true is popular. A somewhat true statement. We know that truth is no popular thing. Most within a given group don't like hearing the truth.

James the Apostle once said that anyone who knows what is right or good but fails to do it is guilty of hamartia which means falling short but in this case I am more in favor of translating it as guilty of wrong because that harsher tone makes the seriousness of what he said more apparent and I would also translate this as guilty of human error of which wrong, as well as wickedness, are. Krishna made clear that inaction or avoidance of duty is equally as bad as acting in an unrighteous way. So it seems that James the Apostle and Krishna agree. A willfully sinful man has no right to talk of God and love. What comes from the mouth of such a man is hypocrisy and lawlessness. Hypocrisy is what happens when there is conflict in the heart and what follows is lawlessness. If bad things happen because you failed to do what is right then it is your fault. This level of materialism turns people into unrighteous people. They so miss the mark.


Holy shit! I've been looking for this picture for like ever, at 7:49 you can see my friends big ass forehead. We used to make jokes about how his forehead was so big you could recognize it in a crowd and there he he is with his grey beanie in the middle with his pale ass massive forehead loooool


I saw this recommended at 3am and thought the thumbnail said "Gonde Mario"


1:25 SIX CONSOLES!? STREAM DECK? ANALYZER? MODERATOR STANDS? SOUNS FILTER?


I love the Gran Turismo 4 menu music at 24:57


First half: Nintendo does some pretty shit things imo

Second half: UGH TWITTER NINTENDO FANS ARE THE WORST THEY ARE RUINING MY LIFE THEY ARE SUCH MINDLESS CONSUMER BABIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

First half: Nintendo does some pretty shit things imo

Second half: UGH TWITTER NINTENDO FANS ARE THE WORST THEY ARE RUINING MY LIFE THEY ARE SUCH MINDLESS CONSUMER BABIES *REEEEEEEEEEEEEE*


Regee this can't be true<br>Regee why didn't you do anything

Regee this can't be true
Regee why didn't you do anything


As a Nintendo fan, I’m so glad someone finally put these thoughts in video form. Great video!

@Bruxtle So you’re defending someone who blatantly insults a group of people based on stereotypes. You don’t deserve any credibility after that. No use trying to have a discussion with you.

@Donkey Kong Fan he's not that wrong tho LMAO

@Donkey Kong Fan you can still like Nintendo's games and be critical of their actions

I don’t know why you as a Nintendo fan would like this video when it’s clearly an anti-Nintendo video filled with mindless generalizations towards the fans.

I absolutely love my ds and wii, but those are the last things I’m getting bc I can’t support Nintendo being greedy, and mob-like

You’re not a real Nintendo fan if you agree with anything this guy said.

Same here. I love Nintendo and their games, but I hate their business decisions.


Hehehehe, I just use a modded Wii. For everything. Nintendo can suck it. They can't prevent people from having fun. I've given them tens of thousands of dollars at least.. I'm done spending money on a company that mistreats people like this. HEY! DOWNLOAD SOME GAMECUBE ROM HACKS!

I've never bought a Nintendo product that wasn't a wii or a wii derivative.


Im not sure I agree about why Nintendo is able to get away with being a villain. Because the product doesn’t suffer. EA and Activision consistently release games that are incomplete and have incredibly crappy monetization models. For a very long time Nintendo has been releasing a consistent stream of groundbreaking masterpieces for decades, and they’re late to the party, but now that they’ve began using similar monetization practices they’ve started to receive more backlash. (If you can) Look at the ratio of likes to dislikes on the video unveiling the new Nintendo online service that revealed that in order to play their new N64 service on the switch it would cost $60 a month. L + Ratio’d + You’re maidenless + Mario’s evil


Your voice is perfect for this subject matter. It reminds me of "chills."


wait i just learned about etikon AND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE NINTENDO they dare shut down a charity for etika WOW as a sonic fan i take this as an attack against the entire fandom JUST DISGUSTING. if you dont know etika was a major sonic youtuber who killed himself and while i wasn't a huge fan of his content and wasn't very active in the sonic community when he died, i was a huge fan of cobi one of etikas best friends and after i returned to the sonic community and saw the aftermath of the etika incident I WAS SHOCKED not only did cobi leave youtube but he harassed a fan. AND NINTENDO DARE TAKE DOWN A CHARITY FOR THIS DISGUSTING :(

Sorry for rant but I’m truly disgusted at Nintendo’s actions

@b8conbear That was all back in 2020. People have already moved on from that point. However now that Twitter has officially tweeted That it wasn't Nintendo that took down Gilvasumner. It was the person I was impersonating Nintendo. I did actually email JoyConBoyz about it and I'm waiting for them to respond.

@M64bros Nintendo does not need religious dedication. The Etikon stuff is absolutely outrageous to me. All the horrible stuff they’ve been doing is driving me more and more till I’m at brinking point

You know I did tell JoyConBoyz about people using Iwata's death as an excuse in a disturbing and ungrateful way. And they agreed with me after I told them. Don't believe me go to the hashtag and find the video and you'll see what I mean #savenintendo


I keep telling everyone, but no-one gets it. Entertainment is literally the new religion. Except unlike previous religions, where utter devotion and following the rules would get you into "heaven", now ya'll are wasting your money on cheap plastic shit. Thanks EmperorLemon, you know whats up.

PS, please make another YTP or two, you know you were one of the best at the time.

@404_NowheresNotFound I'm honestly surprised how Emp got treated like shit by the YTP community. I come from the YTPHispano one and there are channels with 1M subs making these. And they have tons of collabs and tributes with each other

He says he have like PTSD from the community so it's probably not going to happen.


Welp, there is no public dislike button on YouTube anymore. I wonder who's idea that was?


You can disagree with modern copyright law, but for the time being thats how the law works

May be how it works, but the point of the whole argument is that the law is meant to be fair, and it is not currently fair. "That's how the law works" has nothing to do with the argument.


I'm talking 'bout the PSTriple. The PSTriple.


I hope one day, years in the future when the old guard retires, that the next generation allows fangames, allows emulation, etc.

What's the point of spending hundreds on old game collections, when you can just grab it during a steam sale or on an emulation site.


the amount of money nintendo just leaves on the table by not supporting melee, or supporting a modern alternative, is incomprehensible. just look at the street fighter community. they HATE street fighter 5 and it's widely considered to be one of one of if not the worst sf for competition. they would ideally play third strike, 2, or 4. but sega has a pro circuit for sf5 with millions of dollars in prize money, so they play the inferior game. i imagine that if nintendo supported ultimate like sega supports sf, smash could be the greatest esport in history.


Guess who downloaded Pokémon uranium even though Nintendo said no


A reminder that through it all Chuggaaconroy survived it all

Not exactly sure how he did it after this video honestly. Wasn't even aware Nintendo did that whole scummy creator program until I watched this. Don't watch him much anymore since I'm just not interested in the games he plays for the most part but I'm still subscribed.

@Coochie Kong i watched him in like 3rd or 4th. Im 22 now and i still watch him. He's a king amongst the peasants lmao


I can not describe how happy it makes me to see videos like yours or Nerrel's addressing Nintendo and calling out fans. Thank you so much.


They also despise VDM on YouTube. Every time a big channel pops up they just take it down, it’s so annoying as they don’t RELEASE WAYS TO LISTEN TO IT 😭 it’s impeccable how they care this much


As a Nintendo console owner, I agree with this. There are some things that should change, but are totally irrelevant when compared to get a buggy game like ciberpunk. I'm sorry, but when I buy a Legend of Zelda or a Mario, I know it is going to be a masterpiece. No bugs, perfectly smoooth controls, perfectly designed levels, story, everything. If I have to ignore the fact that I cant see their games on stream or esports or being able to download a rom of their game, I dont care that much. I care more about paying 60€ and recieving Ciberpunk instead of Legend of Zelda.


"If...Sony did just a fraction of the things Nintendo does, you'd never hear the end of it."  The irony is, right at the time Nintendo has started to wake up and dropped nearly all censorship on their platforms as well as letting letsplayers/vtubers market their games, Sony is going in the other direction.  It really does feel like we've entered the bizzaro world where everything is backwards.

Also, I disagree with the premise that Nintendo thinks they can get away with anything because of their fans.  From my perspective of reading tons of interviews and watching too many E3's, it's actually an internal issue.  Nintendo staff really do believe in innovation and change above all else.  Even to the point of doing the opposite of what their fans want (something Miyamoto openly says he does all the time).  And this creates a cycle where one generation, you'll have tons of new gimmicks and changes.  It angers players and sales go down.  Then the next generation they go back to making games like they used to, and everyone loves them again.  Sales go back up and the fans love is renewed.  It's not unlike New Coke.  Except in this case, Nintendo is doing it every 5-7 years.  I don't think this was planned.  But Nintendo has been able to take advantage of this at least three times.  Love 'em or hate 'em, they are the kings of bouncing back after a failure.  And by their own statements, they did it on the back of casual players, not their fans.  You don't see a 300% increase in sales between consoles just because your most fervorous fans came back.  They gained millions of new players on the DS, Wii and Switch.


You continue to outdo yourself on social commentary. This video was just too on point. I hope this video is shared more with the mob of Twitter Nintendo fans


Thank you for using so many 'Simpsons' clips.


Now do GGG, Tencent, and Path of exile :)


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Frankly, Nintendo is like the Disney of video games in my eyes; despite just happening to make some of the most whimsical pieces of fiction there are and putting up a facade of being this big family-friendly, people-first company that allegedly loves its fans, it's nothing more than a giant, soulless corporate machine. They don't aim to make art, they aim to make money, but just-so-happen to make art when they do it; that, and the fact that they practically revolutionized their industry of choice, are alibis they ride all the way down, letting the company get away with way more than they should. Sure, if people enjoying their products gets them money, that's fantastic, but more than that, they bank off the nostalgia bucks, the brand loyalty, the love and memories associated with their IP's, so just like Disney, they act like all their fictional works and properties are locked away in this vault nobody is allowed to touch, even when said works and properties aren't available in any way - after all, Nintendo may just decide to sell them again at any time, and that's reason enough to keep any chance of getting them without a price tag away for them.

Maybe it's just initial-viewing denial, and it's a little strange for me to say a variation of "hey that's too harsh :(" as someone who's been with your channel since your YTP days and thus knows your style and tone of content-making by now, but I feel like the part addressing Sakurai specifically is the only one I disagree with... slightly. Pointing out that he's logically behind a lot of the unsavory things Nintendo decides - or at least those concerning things he's worked on, Smash Bros especially - is something I feel people need to be reminded of more, just as with the entire message of this video saying that of Nintendo as a whole, but at the same time, I can't bring myself to dismiss him entirely. At least from what I know, he and his team have been victimized by those above him in the company by stripping him of creative freedom. To what degree, I'm not sure, and it doesn't absolve him/them from returning the favor to customers and players with their stingy view of how Smash Bros has to be played, but it just a thought I can't let go. Yet.

The topics you address in this video are ones I've been trying to bring up for years. The degree to which Nintendo "fans" will protect a company that's capable of being so genuinely vile has flabbergasted and disgusted me for the last decade-or-so of my life. People treat Nintendo and the faces that represent it, like Masahiro Sakurai and Shigeru Miyamoto, as this untouchable God-on-Earth, and it's given them so much leeway to exercise excessive greed and pride. If another publisher/developer makes a crappy and grindy mobile game, people shit on them. If another console manufacturer makes hardware rife with defects and failures, people shit on them. If another company hoards their IP's the way Nintendo does, people shit on them. But not Nintendo. I remember when the Switch was first coming out, in its first year or two of its life, I argued all over the internet against Nintendo Switch Online, and the level of fanboyism was horrifying, with people going as far as to say (paraphrased) "no, I WANT Nintendo to charge us $20 for the same thing we've had for free until now!" and my inability to convince these people otherwise just utterly broke me.

Thank you for making this video, Emp. I hope more people see this video, and moreover, I hope all those people actually take it to heart and we all see change, finally holding Nintendo responsible for their petty business practices.

Frankly, Nintendo is like the Disney of video games in my eyes; despite just *happening* to make some of the most whimsical pieces of fiction there are and putting up a facade of being this big family-friendly, people-first company that allegedly loves its fans, it's nothing more than a giant, soulless corporate machine. They don't aim to make art, they aim to make money, but just-so-happen to make art when they do it; that, and the fact that they practically revolutionized their industry of choice, are alibis they ride all the way down, letting the company get away with way more than they should. Sure, if people enjoying their products gets them money, that's fantastic, but more than that, they bank off the nostalgia bucks, the brand loyalty, the love and memories associated with their IP's, so just like Disney, they act like all their fictional works and properties are locked away in this vault nobody is allowed to touch, even when said works and properties aren't available in any way - after all, Nintendo may just decide to sell them again at any time, and that's reason enough to keep any chance of getting them without a price tag away for them.

Maybe it's just initial-viewing denial, and it's a little strange for me to say a variation of "hey that's too harsh :(" as someone who's been with your channel since your YTP days and thus knows your style and tone of content-making by now, but I feel like the part addressing Sakurai specifically is the only one I disagree with... slightly. Pointing out that he's logically behind a lot of the unsavory things Nintendo decides - or at least those concerning things he's worked on, Smash Bros especially - is something I feel people need to be reminded of more, just as with the entire message of this video saying that of Nintendo as a whole, but at the same time, I can't bring myself to dismiss him entirely. At least from what I know, he and his team *have* been victimized by those above him in the company by stripping him of creative freedom. To what degree, I'm not sure, and it doesn't absolve him/them from returning the favor to customers and players with their stingy view of how Smash Bros has to be played, but it just a thought I can't let go. Yet.

The topics you address in this video are ones I've been trying to bring up for years. The degree to which Nintendo "fans" will protect a company that's capable of being so genuinely *vile* has flabbergasted and disgusted me for the last decade-or-so of my life. People treat Nintendo and the faces that represent it, like Masahiro Sakurai and Shigeru Miyamoto, as this untouchable God-on-Earth, and it's given them so much leeway to exercise excessive greed and pride. If another publisher/developer makes a crappy and grindy mobile game, people shit on them. If another console manufacturer makes hardware rife with defects and failures, people shit on them. If another company hoards their IP's the way Nintendo does, people shit on them. But not Nintendo. I remember when the Switch was first coming out, in its first year or two of its life, I argued all over the internet against Nintendo Switch Online, and the level of fanboyism was horrifying, with people going as far as to say (paraphrased) "no, I WANT Nintendo to charge us $20 for the same thing we've had for free until now!" and my inability to convince these people otherwise just utterly *broke* me.

Thank you for making this video, Emp. I hope more people see this video, and moreover, I hope all those people actually take it to heart and we all see change, finally holding Nintendo responsible for their petty business practices.

@Carlo Nassar I mostly meant Disney back-when. Nowadays, I agree they've definitely dropped the facade - both on the side of "making quality products" and "looking good in public".

"The topics you address in this video are ones I've been trying to bring up for years. The degree to which Nintendo "fans" will protect a company that's capable of being so genuinely vile has flabbergasted and disgusted me for the last decade-or-so of my life." ah, am glad i have found someone else that thinks Nintendo is just a soulless corporate machine.

Disney is freaking worse in so many ways.<br>That's an exaggeration

Disney is freaking worse in so many ways.
That's an exaggeration

Nintendo is the Disney of video games: We grew up with it, it's greedy, and as much as I love Nintendo games/Disney movies, I feel bad for giving the big boys money when they do crap like this.

It sounds just as currently all fanboys are acting like cult zombies on Minecraft Steve being in Smash, they just cannot say it is a bad idea as it will ruin their happy world and if someone dares say it was a bad move from Nintendo, all hell breaks loose.

Except Disney doesn't make a lot of good movies, and they barely make anything original. In addition, they thanked a bunch of <b>terrorists</b> for one of their films, messed with how the public domain works, and they haven't even improved their film record that was horrible for decades. Nintendo, meanwhile, actually tried their best to make franchises as original as they could and they weren't on a buying fiasco like Disney. Remember the Disney-Fox merger?

Except Disney doesn't make a lot of good movies, and they barely make anything original. In addition, they thanked a bunch of *terrorists* for one of their films, messed with how the public domain works, and they haven't even improved their film record that was horrible for decades. Nintendo, meanwhile, actually tried their best to make franchises as original as they could and they weren't on a buying fiasco like Disney. Remember the Disney-Fox merger?


Nintendo have no idea what an 'internet' is. Which is why they are so backwards on fan creations.


I agree but I won’t do more than writing that I agree tho.


In the words of joshscorcher: "Nintendo, I know you don't think what you're doing is wrong, but just because you want to be like Disney doesn't mean you have to BE Disney!"

I don't think any higher ups at Nintendo even have the moral faculties to be able to discriminate between obviously evil actions and general ambivalence.


21:00 And now ratioing will soon be impossible to detect XD


@Papercut But still. You saw how Sonic 06, Sonic forces and Sonic colors ultimate had a little bit of a rough road right. In reality the real reason why Nintendo is better than Sega is because their games are better but they still have bad practices. Look I love Sonic the hedgehog in the very bond of my heart and I love its video games and the character itself. But it's fan base definitely needs to learn to shut their mouths. For example they were all excited for Sonic colors ultimate to come out and then a few days later the game had a lot of glitches and bugs in it. And there's a good lesson for it. "Never trust any Sonic fan boys".

@M64bros They atleast care about their fans.

Says the company that rushes Sonic games and Sonic forces and Sonic colors Ultimate was a massive failure. Which explains why Nintendo is better than Sega. That's the realistic truth


i always found nitedo games to childish and i hated mario as a child. Don't know why though...


Nintendo was kinda "humble" around the launch of the Switch because they had to win a lot of people over after the Wii U. <br>Now they own the world again and I feel like they will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Nintendo was kinda "humble" around the launch of the Switch because they had to win a lot of people over after the Wii U.
Now they own the world again and I feel like they will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.


WOW thats so ironic, i got an ad for pokemon just let that sink in.


Well I can't say you're wrong.

A few things though: This pattern of forgetting the next controversy when the next shiny drops is not exclusive to Nintendo, it is a problem with Gamers(TM) in general.

Second, I think the reason Nintendo doesn't get the flak that EA and Activision get is because they don't exploit people the way EA and Activision do.

That's not to say Nintendo isn't exploting people, as you demonstrated, but there is a difference between say, shutting down all derivative works and emulation, and putting lootbox mechanics in all your games.

Shutting down fan works, banning livestreams, killing tournaments, all of that doesn't impact the vast majority of its players. Aggressive monetization is detrimental to most games at best, and downright evil at worst.

Nintendo isn't good, it's just better by comparison.

Well, for now. It's been keeping the gacha squarely in mobile phone titles. If that changes, that might wreck them.


Nintendo Fans : "WE LOVE YOU !!!"
Nintendo : "And we hate you immensely for it"
Nintendo Fans : "WE STILL LOVE YOU !!!"

Nintendo Fans : _"WE LOVE YOU !!!"_
Nintendo : _"And we hate you immensely for it"_
Nintendo Fans : _"WE STILL LOVE YOU !!!"_


I think why Nintendo fans are so die hard is because of a FEW games, like Ocorina of Time, Metroid Prime, etc. And those games were so good, that it overshadows bad games they make (Breath of the Wild), making them think those games are good, and the company is good. <br>That's how good a few of their games are.

I think why Nintendo fans are so die hard is because of a FEW games, like Ocorina of Time, Metroid Prime, etc. And those games were so good, that it overshadows bad games they make (Breath of the Wild), making them think those games are good, and the company is good.
That's how good a few of their games are.


As a Nintendo fan that completely agrees with your arguments, thank you.

As an autistic Nintendo fan...as much as I hate to admit it, this video helped open my eyes a bit more to how despicable Nintendo is as both a company, and as a cult in bloom.
Corruption is everywhere I look these days, and Nintendo has been one of the few reprieves from that toxicity that I could rely on for the past few years; but ever since the Wii U and Switch releases, I've noticed that their greed and stranglehold on their IPs has become increasingly more and more difficult to ignore.
In short: The truth hurts. :*(


If there's one thing that Nintendo and Disney have in common, it's being able to attract a type of customer known as "consoomers."


My guy absolutely went off on idiot bootlicking fanboys and it was <b>chefs kiss</b> beautiful

My guy absolutely went off on idiot bootlicking fanboys and it was *chefs kiss* beautiful


May I say something?

I can say with all honesty that yeah, I do play Nintendo games all the time and...

Would you kindly put your anti-fandom shotgun down and let me speak?

The loyalty to Nintendo isn't so much as given to the company as it was earned by the one man who made his own view on the world the identity of its games and Nintendo itself, alongside other personalities who shared his vision. That man is gone now, and even though Nintendo wasn't a saint when he was still around, they've dropped a lot of that innocent pretense in the years following the loss of that man, and with that man, went the happiness and childlike wonder the company claims its own without shame. It is this, that people choose to follow and defend.

So I want to say, that I didn't so much as follow Nintendo, as I did follow Satoru Iwata, and the games that follow his identity, the good and the bad.

You can aim your anti-fandom shotgun again. I don't really care what you think of me. I've said my piece, and spoken the truth.


dislike count before youtube hid it all: 1411


all i can think is Ren and Stimpy whenever i hear 'Dance of the sugerplum fairy', the intro song xD


Nintendo's brilliance is rivaled only by their rampant stupidity.

@A. Mabud Their fans are anyway, but their business department is aswell. There are so many moronic choices they take that generate no value whatsoever

EXACTLY. They made the brilliant, innovative game that is Super Mario Odyssey while at the same time pulling this shit.

I've been getting the impression that it's more vehement, stubborn pride and gatekeeping than it is stupidity, generally speaking. Do they know they could easily improve fan relations and increase profits? Sure, but then they would have to lower their standards and allow their ideas to be shared and expounded on. <br>They would rather dig their bleeding heels harder into the ground and make sure that consumers will ONLY consume Nintendo's products the way Nintendo wants them to, full stop. That includes actively fighting to suppress groups of people who are legally playing an existing,  unmodified Nintendo product.

I've been getting the impression that it's more vehement, stubborn pride and gatekeeping than it is stupidity, generally speaking. Do they know they could easily improve fan relations and increase profits? Sure, but then they would have to lower their standards and allow their ideas to be shared and expounded on.
They would rather dig their bleeding heels harder into the ground and make sure that consumers will ONLY consume Nintendo's products the way Nintendo wants them to, full stop. That includes actively fighting to suppress groups of people who are legally playing an existing,  unmodified Nintendo product.


@Abdullah GAri Yes, it all starts at a company's bad decision. What fanboys do is act like that bad decision is actually good and defend that decision.

It’s also some of the company’s decisions


AAAA When ELP dropped <3 nice taste and video!


as the 90’s once said “genesis does what nintendon’t.”

But Sega still owes us the COUNTLESS arcade games they've made in recent years (especially Maimai でらくす Splash, and CHUNITHUM Super Star). Sure, there's places like Round1, which  imports Japanese arcade games, but not to many places outside the West Coast and Northeast United States have one of those. The only arcades I know around me that have a Maimai still have "FINALE" (which Aime support for that version have ended early last year).

@Some Bonehead To be fair, the moral panic was mostly a result of Sega and their mature games initially lacking a basic rating system. I agree though that it would've been in everyone's best interest if they had just put aside the petty rivalry.

Sega would be just as bad if they still had any sort of corporate power, in fact back in the day they used to take down fan games too, they only stopped because they realised that they couldn't get away with it like Nintendo could

@Mister Purple Which one? The sega collections or neglected franchises? NiGHTS? Crazy Taxi? Billy Hatcher?

Even after the First Console War, even after Nintendo and Sega shook hands and teamed up, inspite of everything Sega endured, they still garner more genuine respect compared to their old adversary.  Sega's games themselves may not have the guarantee of quality akin to Nintendo, but their legal and PR departments are something Nintendo really needs to take notes on.

@Ionclast valve recently simped for China which is pro censorship, and deleted several spicy games. Nintendo brought them on. Let that sink in.

But now the genesis is gone so I suppose in the most literal sense valve does what nintendont

@Mr Conroy46 bingo
Thats why they've been focusing on too much nostalgia they need to stop listening to journalists because to quote the emp himself
The journalists piss all over the water and forces us to go to cleaner water until they fill the pool up with so much piss that no one not even sonic fans wants to play the games.
BTW super monkey ball
Streets of rage and Alex kidd is back so they're getting better on that department they just need to stop listening to idiot journalists who don't know what they're talking about.

Looks at quote, ah yes. The company that neglected several of its franchises, and listened to the wrong people to improve sonic when in reality made it worse.

I hope sega tries with the next sonic game and if they do they'll be great.
Cause they're already bringing alot of franchises back,  they have atlus,
the sonic movie broke records for video game movies and a new sonic show is on the way.
So, what they need to do is put some effort in the next sonic game this time.

Friendly reminder that Nintendo threw Sega under the bus during the moral panic of the 90s when they should have put their differences aside for the good of gaming as a whole.


Fun fact: That one part that says "Switch owners are pathetic" exploded on my Twitter from the Shilltendrones :P


did the guy with the anime profile picture ask if he was pathetic


They did it to themselves sadly man. I've always bought a Nintendo and always will. Sad they're not the top anymore tho


Nintendo fanboys are why the "It's ok when Nintendo does it" meme will always be prevalent

You can literally say this to any company, not even videogames

@TheFreeSpeechZealot To be frank, from the little I've come to know about copyright law I'm not sure I want to defend it. Defending an antiquated set of laws that not only harbor these companies in their ability to suppress passionate creators, but also maliciously target wholly innocent ones through coercion is a tough pill to swallow. I acknowledge their existence is a protection for all creators, but as things sit now the balance of rights between creators and corporations is all but fair. Still, in acknowledgement of my lack of expertise I will yield to your position on the matter.

@Zadamanim Thank you for proving my suspicion that you actively want me to stop being a fan of something and loving it. All because of some twisted desire. Just like what Emp was trying to do.

@GodZpeed X7II Bro this isn't a console war, I don't care if you're a fan of Xbox, Sony, or Nintendo, all fans are cringe. Corporations do not need drones defending them. To be clear, you can like or even love a game without calling yourself a fan. Fans are the ones that stupidly defend a product because that product has become a part of their own identity. This means if you insult something I'm a fan of, I'll take it as a personal insult. This means if the product or the creator become harmful, I will defend the product at the expense of other people or even myself. It's a foolish mindset. Give up on being a fan of anything. It's not good for anyone.

@AzafuseYugi No there are not a lot of fanboys. The majority of the Nintendo fanbase is actually tame

@SC43 7 They aren’t proving the op right, they are proving the OP wrong

All of that is false. This happens with Xbox and Sony fanboys

@Donkey Kong Fan or maybe it's fanboys like you c:<br>not every Nintendo fan is a fanboy, but there's a lot of fanboys, were talking about the fanboys,

@Donkey Kong Fan or maybe it's fanboys like you c:
not every Nintendo fan is a fanboy, but there's a lot of fanboys, were talking about the fanboys,

@Donkey Kong Fan There is no point in being a Nintendo fan. Give it up. Being a defender of any corporation is cringe and makes you look like a tool.

@SC43 7 Proving him right how? How does going against his blatant ignorant stereotyping somehow prove his point?

@ImmaLittlePip How was I “nintendroning”? I didn’t say anything about Nintendo itself, I was solely talking about how you ignorantly generalize all Nintendo fans.

@Donkey Kong Fan right on time and proving op right as always i see.

@Fienderman  <br>Lmfao true I love Nintendo and I grew up with them but people like Donkey Kong fan nintendroning is why people hate the die hards

@Fienderman
Lmfao true I love Nintendo and I grew up with them but people like Donkey Kong fan nintendroning is why people hate the die hards

Not a fan. Its not only ok when they do it. Its just ok. Copyright isn't optional. You must defend it to keep it. Legal obligation.


Why don't people hate Nintendo more when they're so bitter and awful


12:04 did you just put Karn Evil 9? respect


Hey, EmpLemon. Ever heard of a game called M.U.G.E.N?

Now that's a game I've never heard about ever since I was little.....


You know very well if Sakurai spoke out against Nintendo's anti consumer actions they would have fired him in a heart beat but he'll never do that. He is apart of Nintendo as much as Nintendo is a part of him

Sakurai goes out of his way to make the characters he want "work" in smash by going to the parent companies and negotiating their rights to get them into smash and you're telling me he'd be fired for that? Yeah okay buddy. Guy already has lots of influence on his own.

Fired from what? From Sora? Even in your made up scenario that would never happen (as firing a person like Sakurai would piss off even the consoomers), he’ll be fine with his reputation letting him be anywhere else.

ah yes, swallow your morals and forfeit your soul over to the monopolistic game giant. Sakurai still should have drawn blood against Nintendo. Idk if you know this but there are HUNDREDS of other game giants that would hire Sakurai in a heartbeat if Nintendo fired him.

Yes, but he didn’t have to castrate brawl


In recent news Nintendo steals money from millennials who don't know about N64 emulation


AVGN could have made these guys millions on YouTube but…. Nope


AM2R was cool but PKMN Uranium fucking sucked & I’m glad Nintendo dusted it before the devs wasted any more of their time on it.


hey can we all take a moment of silence? my NES has finally died.....


<b>THERE IS PASSIVE AGRESSION IN THE AIR</b>


I understand most of the arguments people are making here, but the one I don't understand is why people are so mad about them shutting down the Wii U?  It was going to happen eventually, if you expected it not to, them sorry, but you're just stupid.

It's like if you have a house and you're keeping the lights on, yet nobody's living in it.  If nobody's living in the house, then it's just a waste of money keeping the lights on.  So turn them off.

Yeah, the way Nintendo handled everything could have gone better, but either way the system was going to die eventually.


Ehh EA is literally just as bad with the loot boxes in literally every single game they make. Honestly every single game company now a days completely sucks. No video games are good anymore


Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.


i dont believe you made simpsons green for some heady theological reason, I believe you did it so that a year later I can still remember "green simpsons" and type that in to find you.


Sakurai’s treatment as some sort of “poor innocent sacred child who has done no wrong” has always pissed me off.<br>I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Sakurai himself was the one to call many of the shots in terms of crippling the Competitive Smash community.

Sakurai’s treatment as some sort of “poor innocent sacred child who has done no wrong” has always pissed me off.
I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Sakurai himself was the one to call many of the shots in terms of crippling the Competitive Smash community.

@EGG FUCKER 69 Sakurai i believe very much played a hand in crippling the competitive scene before ultimate one story he talks about often as to why he wanted smash to be a more casual game was seeing the face of someone he crushed in kof and how sad they looked its not hard to believe a man who was "traumatized" by this would go out of his way to scrub away the competitive scene back then.

@Cathe True. Also at this point he probably is just glad when Nintendo isn’t forcing him to work to the point of exhaustion like Japanese companies are want to do. The idea that he actually gives a shit about a bunch of gross 30 year old men obsessed with a children’s fighting game is very wishful thinking. Even if on some level he did care it will never translate to the actual competitive scene because Nintendo hates it fans to much to for it actually mean anything. “But Sakurai built in more movement mechanics into this one. He clearly loves competitive smash and its community”. Lol the delusions of these fans.

Yeah, Sakurai cares so much about smash competitive he never speaks out against Nintendo shutting down tournaments and/or ignoring the competitive scene hoping it will rot. At this point, I don’t even really blame them for not supporting a bunch of whiny hyperactive man children who screech at the top of their lungs if they don’t like one character they add and then do a 180 into raucous celebration as another one they do like is added. These people act like Nintendo resurrected Christ himself when Nintendo adds any character who is marginally popular.

TL;DR- Nintendo and its fanbase are a trash fire and the fans delude themselves into believing Nintendo cares about them on any level so they feel justified in buying their shitty products. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk

@Zyborggian Seriously. “He bleed at the computer so we may enjoy Smash! Don’t say anything bad about him now.” Ah yes, I’m sure that the lead developer absolutely loves the fanbase of smash and literally suffered for them. I mean, look at all the times he called out nintendo for shutting down melee tournaments, destroying modded version of melee built for competitive play, and nintendo ignoring ultimate tournaments. Oh wait, that never happened.

Also Sakurai has essentially been worked like a dog by nintendo for decades now so best case scenario for smash competitive is Sakurai attempts to make the game more mechanically deep, something we can’t actually confirm he is trying to directly do and anyone claiming that is speculating on the fact that they add a few more feature is every game which every single game in existence for the most part tries to do, then this supposed pro competitive sentiment gets completely shut down by Nintendo the second the game actually ships because Nintendo couldn’t care less about online or competitive.

@Todd Howard I really hope that was sarcasm.

I personally always thought this was the case. I don't know if a lot of people know this but smash bros original inception came from when sakurai was at the arcade playing street fighter, and a young couple jumped on the machine with him. He didn't really think anything of it but he just absolutely destroyed them. He was horrified of himself afterwards Because he destroyed their potential interest in the game, and thus was born an idea of a fighter that took less skill to play and was more based around having fun. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he even said that smash melee was too complex and daunting to follow this philosophy so he made brawl.

@Menoly Brawl's fighting game side mode was made the way it was because Iwata made him make it that way.

@SpainCat the main proof would have to be his eventual burn out and departure from Kirby. Sakurai has been known to get tired of his franchises after a decade or two of working on them.

@cursed mailman Sakurai has never said that

@cursed mailman Sakurai has never said that

It might actually be true. Sakurai has said many times that he hated making Smash Bros, so there's a real chance he's purposefully trying to kill it.

I don't blame him, the competitive Smash scene is full of perverts and degenerates who won't touch a shower

@Todd Howard Smash Ultimate has the most viewed tournament in fighting game history, saying Ultimate is "anti-competitive" is a clown take

It's just Nintendo bro Sakurai got nothing to do with this so keep him out of this shit.

@Danny you're literally like the fans in the video

Also top lmao some of the people who think Sakurai is Jesus are in these replies :^) /s

@fenex gid Yeah I remember he did that in the Sephiroth trailer with the fair and bair attacks too

With Brawl that was the case. But then with U, onto Ultimate, Sakurai has brought competitive play more back to form, with a high skill ceiling.

Sakurai literally works himself to the point of near-death for the sake of pleasing fans (it's a horrible thing that he shouldn't do, but it's by his own volition). He wouldn't cripple the competitive scene. This is 100% the bigwigs' doing.

@Menoly Brawl was made during the peak of the pro-casual craze. There is no way that competitive smash being "alienating" was the only thing that had the higher-ups made Sakurai make brawl more casual-oriented. This was on the same console as the Wii series, for crying out loud.

The man sacrifices his mental and physical health to create a game that people around the world love.<br>Yes, the anti-competitive sentiment is there, but it's not fair to lump it on Sakurai when at least half of the decisions about the games themselves aren't his choices to make. They've also NEVER focused on the competitive side, which is a mistake on their part but there's nothing to suggest it's malicious on Masahiro Sakurai's part

The man sacrifices his mental and physical health to create a game that people around the world love.
Yes, the anti-competitive sentiment is there, but it's not fair to lump it on Sakurai when at least half of the decisions about the games themselves aren't his choices to make. They've also NEVER focused on the competitive side, which is a mistake on their part but there's nothing to suggest it's malicious on Masahiro Sakurai's part

@Neogears  i agree, but there are plenty of ludicrously precise options that are programmed into melee - to name a few:

• you can adjust the size of your shield and tilt it

• 3 different walk speeds (just walk, that doesn't include initial dash or running).

• DI and SDI, iirc SDI is even programmed so that the distance you tilt the stick changes how far you travel (which is too precise and niche to ever be practical even in top level competitive play)

• characters like Fox being genuinely precise to short hop with (granted, this may just be an oversight)

• dynamic grapple recoveries

you only get out what you put in, and they put in a very powerful, stable physics engine. doesn't mean they intended competitive play, but they did intend to make an incredible, deep, challenging game. melee wasn't an 'accident' exactly, is all I'm saying.

@Lou Nowell Ok and Miyamoto wanted mario to feel versatile to control with plenty options to traverse a level in mario 64, i don't think BLJ and speedrunning tech was what they had in mind. In fact we know thats the case because rerelease versions crackdown on that. Just because sakurai wanted some depth to the game in know way implies he wanted anything resembling a competitive scene for melee to the level it achieved. He more realistically wanted replay value that encouraged people to play the game longer which in return made more people willing to buy a copy  of their own instead of say just playing over a friends house.

@Todd Howard  todd keep quiet we havent forgot what you did.

@fenex gid you’re right. And Paul McCartney was dead the entire time.

@SpainCat in the pyra/mythra gameplay trailer he starts to trail off into frame data, but he looks off screen and starts to stop. Really tin foil hat stuff but he does similar stuff in other gameplay trailers

@PiousMoltar proof melee fans are toxic here

@PiousMoltar proof melee fans are toxic here

Samurai likes people playing his game competitively, he just has to follow orders he doesn't even want to keep making the games anymore because of this

@Lou Nowell  weird that he pulled a complete 180 from that mindset.

@kickitsmooth 'Made competitive on purpose' may be a stretch, but Sakurai says explicitly in old interviews that he hoped Smash 64 would have an extra layer of depth for people who wanted to master it. It's pretty clear Melee followed this philosophy as well

@Lou Nowell Melee was not made competitive on purpose. And yes Brawl is a good casual game.

@kickitsmooth sakurai/his team also went out of their way to make melee an incredible competitive game, just saying

brawl is a really fun casual smash bros game, the input lag (something that was surely not intentional/desired) would make it less fun/responsive than melee even if they kept in all the techniques, and it'd be kind of bizarre to intentionally gear a smash bros. game around competition. it's actually pretty impressive how they managed to keep so many of the basic techniques from Melee (a game that essentially assumed you'd played the N64 original) and make them more accessible to newcomers/casual players.

all that said, I don't think brawl should have gone out of its way to ignore or even intentionally sabotage competitive play - and it definitely did, but that's kind-of a nitpick.

He went out of his way to make Brawl less competitive so yes. He totally did.

How dare you insinuate that the leading developer of a series has anything to do with the series growing anti competitive nature! How could you even dare think such a thing, you should buy 3 copies of Smash Ultimate in order to atone for your sins! After all, not buying a Nintendo product is taking money out of the poor Nintendo businessman’s pockets! Do you want their families to starve because of your greed and hatred?!?!!?!

@Danny if you really want proof of that, look at Brawl as a game, and why it was made the way it was.


Nintendo: We've brought down 5 fan games that took years to complete respectively.
Fans: Calm...
Nintendo: Anyway, so Fire Embl-
Fans: A N G E R Y


At 16:32 you use earth bound music.
Nintendo game. But can you believe the music 🎶  owner in that game, I can't remember who are pulling all earthbound vids down from YouTube for the music lol. I can't remember who owns the music rights.


I'm not that big of a gamer but if I was to ever scratch the mario itch i'd just buy a cheap second hand DS and try to complete it. They have always had an elitist attitude I noticed even before I knew the terminology. To be a global empire and to region lock specific games and to cut off user experiences is a JOKE. So many companies do this shit now it's ridiculous. "Awww you happen to like a US show? Well now it's a HBO exclusive and region locked to the US". Idgi, it encourages piracy. I would have happily paid full DVD price to watch the season but no, not available. It's astounding how companies cuck their own cashflow.


Im honestly scared of talking about Nintendo to my friends as they are loyal fans. This video perfectly summarises everything! I love the vid!

@Coffee break with Benji <br>I recommend it anyway.

@Coffee break with Benji
I recommend it anyway.

@Carlo Nassar THATS SO RUDE HAHAHA but thx lolz

@Robert Wolff I highly doubt that. It does reuse the same map, but it's still a sequel.

@Robert Wolff Unfortunately, people will still buy it even if that happens, and no one will complain about it (apart from the 0.1% who still have their brain intact), and they'll bash you if you D A R E criticize the RESKIN MASTERPIECE because Nintendo NEVER publishes a bad game.

@Blacktain Falcon well I’m worried it will be the same game again with barely anything new no story no playable Zelda. No dungeons and I have to pay 60 bucks for it

@Robert Wolff but the quality of the games weren't the problem expressed in the video. Of course it's gonna be good, it's Zelda.

I am quite a loyal fan but this video made me see things in a new light I think botw2 will be my final straw if that game is bad I’m putting my foot down

They won't grow up if you don't keep exposing this sort of stuff to them, especially if they aren't discovering it on their own.

Like, it only annoys me as a Nintendo fan when someone sends this stuff to me because i already seek out videos like this on my own accord.


Nintendo and Apple
they are both just companies.

And i buy from neither.
on principle of course.


agreed with every part of this video and will still support nintendo because they've consistently made bangers my whole life


technicals? in my emplemon video? you love to see it


Your whole ordeal on Twitter is partially your fault for getting into Twitter in the first place lmfao. You should have expected people over-reacting there after your tweets.


There's two sides to every story on one side with Nintendo being viewed as the saviour of video games by many for their Introduction of the NES and other times it came to be viewed more as a corporate entity who lacks transparency with it's fanbase when it cancelled Project M without warning or punishing competitive gameplay in order to please their mainstream audience. Nintendo is an interesting case study because it shows a pattern which not only applies to Nintendo but most other video game game companies as well where once it reaches it's peak in mainstream success and becomes the dominant player in it's Industry is when it starts to become less transparent, implements dodgy practices and them valuing their interests but doing so without taking their audience into consideration.<br>Thankfully because of tools like the internet it will be hard for Nintendo to shut down all criticisms of their shady practices and there will come a point where even they will crumble if the company continues to push away it's fanbase, puts less emphasis in the quality of it's products and more on profit. I hope Nintendo changes because I love it's games as much as the next guy but it needs to improve.

There's two sides to every story on one side with Nintendo being viewed as the saviour of video games by many for their Introduction of the NES and other times it came to be viewed more as a corporate entity who lacks transparency with it's fanbase when it cancelled Project M without warning or punishing competitive gameplay in order to please their mainstream audience. Nintendo is an interesting case study because it shows a pattern which not only applies to Nintendo but most other video game game companies as well where once it reaches it's peak in mainstream success and becomes the dominant player in it's Industry is when it starts to become less transparent, implements dodgy practices and them valuing their interests but doing so without taking their audience into consideration.
Thankfully because of tools like the internet it will be hard for Nintendo to shut down all criticisms of their shady practices and there will come a point where even they will crumble if the company continues to push away it's fanbase, puts less emphasis in the quality of it's products and more on profit. I hope Nintendo changes because I love it's games as much as the next guy but it needs to improve.

The only factor where Nintendo won't fully become the corrupted beast that is Disney, they are still somewhat new and still have some principles. Some aren't so good but others like their games and how they treat employees are shockingly the best in the industry, or at least in the Triple A scene. But there is always chances where they go down that same road as Disney and people REALLY need to keep Nintendo's feet to the coals. Make sure they aren't complacent or get an ego. And the fans need to make that change happen soon.

I think you overestimate the size of the people who will actually take action, no matter how many video essays about them are made. Numbers aren’t how you’re gonna change things, I think. It’s best not to set up that false expectation


The dislikes are from nintendo soyjacks and wojacks


you used a spongebill ytp scene from BarneyIsPerverted from 15 years ago and i simply dont know what to say


"To claim in any way that Sakurai somehow exists in a vacuum completely free of Nintendo's influence demonstrates a complete ignorance towards the nature of business" Yes. The 16 year olds you're arguing with on Twitter don't understand business. They are superficial consumers who only care about looking good in the eyes of others, not doing good.

Absolutely,it's up there with "you can't pirate games or else devellopers will lose their jobs/don't get paid !" As if wages aren't a thing and they aren't already fired at the end, do they think devs earn royalties ? (also it's not my fault they're being exploited unfairly with a debt contract)
The only worse groups than "gamers" when it comes to being ignorant are Musk fanbois,that says a lot.
They act like vidya is an "artistic" field with flowers and rainbow where everybody is in an even playing field. (even anime fanbois aren't that delusional)

@Eva Sackaton You see the number one priority of businesses is to make money, no matter what, and that's all you need to know

I'm so glad he tackled this point, so many idiots on twitter parroted this idea over and over when it makes zero sense if you know even a little bit of how companies work.


hot diggity dog im boutta go pirate mario galaxy right now


i have no idea how this crept by me but damn all facts


Ooooo asbestos!! Know why people wear air filters for everything now?


As someone who was hit EXTREMELY hard by the fallout of pokemon and dexit in 2019, I 100% agree with this video. I was one of the few people sharing my genuine feelings and concerns about the future of the franchise, but everyone was spending all their energy creating excuses to prop up nintendo, or even just spewing toxic nonsense when that failed. All I wanted was for the series to meet it's full potential. Now I'd rather it ended outright then be spearheaded by a company that's so thoroughly lost in itself.

It took an insane amount of neglect to push me into this corner. I wish I could love nintendo. I grew up with them. And 3 years ago, I was a die hard fan and bought everything. I honestly regret buying my nintendo switch now...

Pokemon games are just vehicles to sell poke-merch, that is why it is always fundamentally the same game with like 60-100 new pokemon.  Gamefreak is not the ones calling the shots they are just an arm of the pokemon merchandising corperation.  Until people stop caring about pokemon all together, the games will just keep coming out.

Same tbh, the pokemon fiaso back then really pushed me away from the newer games since I frankly despise the direction...<br>And yea next console im emulating it and buying the games off ebay and dumping them so that I legally own the games wihtout giving nintendo a penny

Same tbh, the pokemon fiaso back then really pushed me away from the newer games since I frankly despise the direction...
And yea next console im emulating it and buying the games off ebay and dumping them so that I legally own the games wihtout giving nintendo a penny

@Skasaha I would've been able to accept that at the time if they'd stated that outright. It's was the countless blatant lies and attempts at misdirection that I'll never forgive them for.

It's never been clearer than ever that people can have very different motivations for playing Pokemon. It's impossible to please them all, and likewise impossible to explain to some people why full backwards compatibility forever more is a pipedream.


This video is more relevant then ever now


Well guess what! No more dislike button! No more dislikes! Susan wojinski wins


Can anyone tell me what the name of the classical music playing at the beginning is please?

@Abdullah GAri Found out the name btw.  It's called Dance of the Sugar Plum fairy from The Nutcracker


I totally agree how Nintendo is totally ass-backwards when it comes to PR, emulation, and fan creation. However, I think the diehard fans that you speak of are more of a minority than you think. Of course they will always exist, but with the examples that you showed (ie the Twitter screenshots), they were getting ratio'd because other Nintendo fans know that they are such drones. As far as I've seen, most Nintendo fans are very logical and disavow the malicious practices that Nintendo has done.


Isn't that what Ranked systems in games are for?? So pros can play with other pros, newbies can play with other newbies, and everyone in between....but I do kind of see their point that online fighting games in general have a higher skill curve, but again, all you have to do is do couch play or private lobbies for partied and such....it's not right to punish other people who want to competitively play the game, and destroys the point of the freedom of video games and the heights they can reach


I don't think I've ever seen a fanbase get so heated over optional nonegregious dlc characters that you don't have to buy solely out of preference, considering the 80+ roster Smash already has.


20:14 Who's here after Youtube neutered dislikes?


1 second of bitcoin thumbnail gave me stage 3 cancer. thx bro


Absolutely brilliant video. From my experience over the years, Nintendo fans are some of the biggest sheep known to mankind who will all collectively think one way and immediately change their worldview when Nintendo does something out of left field, good or bad. Criticizing the company in any way will get you hundreds of whiners and death threats unless it's about something the general public will allow you to criticize. Someone not liking a game or a business practice is not a personal attack on you, and the people that do think that way are the reason Nintendo is still allowed to get away with their stunts. If the big boy Nintendo YouTubers spent even half the time they spend covering nonsensical leaks that they know aren't true towards actually wanting a change, I guarantee Nintendo would be willing to listen more often. Instead, we had to wait a total of 14 years for Nintendo to give fans a Mario Party game without some huge catch and 6 years for them to chill out with their YouTube policies.

@Falen Demo5 i have no idea who foekoe is

@Bowl --- isn't he basically just Foekoe, but worse?

Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group.


Nintendo is the Disney of video games. For better and worse.


Co to jest nintendo? Jakieś że zrobili jakąś grę z pokemonów czy coś?


5:14 song? I think it's a battle theme from one of the older pokemon games but idk


Uncanny insight. Where you there during these events or did you just read the interwebs?


The fact that there’s almost a thousand dislikes to this is astonishing. Nothing but cold hard facts here, if you can’t take it, you can’t take it, I guess.

The ratio seems perfectly normal. The amount of dislikes by the nintendo zealots are negligible.


The saddest thing is that this is the only reference to address Nintendo fanboys, we have dozens of videos against Bethesda, EA or even microtransactions as a whole.<br>But Nintendo? Nha Just tiny little issues, always justifiable, never enough to not buy

The saddest thing is that this is the only reference to address Nintendo fanboys, we have dozens of videos against Bethesda, EA or even microtransactions as a whole.
But Nintendo? Nha Just tiny little issues, always justifiable, never enough to not buy

EA used to be really good, The old Need For Speeds were the best. Bethesda just released this one bad game (fo76) that wasn't even made by it's main team so now everyone hates them. Nintendo however is always a pain in the ass for me, I really want to buy Breath of the Wild but I refuse to pay $80 dollarydoos just for a game, not to mention I bought 3 pairs of Joycons and they all drift, my Xbox remote doesn't do that and it's used more. It'd be really nice if they just put their games on PC or something. Oh and the new Pokemon games are garbage, although I haven't seen Diamond and Pearl yet.


Dude your gonna convince the 80million playerbase of the switch to boycott gtfo, Nintendo never gonna have a full boycott, maybe nso at the very least byt thats it.


I always get food ready whenever a new EmpLemon video like this comes out.


In a perfect world, Nintendo makes some stupid shit, fucks it up so bad that the company is done  forever and because they pursued ROMs and emulation so hard with years physical copies and consoles die and many years later there is no Nintendo game available in the world.


23:49
Yeah, Sakurai didn't speak out against nintendo's predatory business practices. Or maybe he did and he was shut down with threats to lose his job.

@Andy Blanton So? It's still relevant to Nintendo. Look! I will agree with some people that Nintendo has done some bad stuff in the past and I admire their opinions I really do. But they're really starting to become a pain in the ass! All the videos that are saying Nintendo was a bad company is basically the same facts over and over and over again. But what those videos aren't actually telling you is people using Iwata's death In a disgusting and disturbing way probably to hide what's actually happening outside of the hate. People need to stop bringing up the same story over and over again. True! It's all real and all but people need to stop bringing it up rapidly It's the same thing over and over again. That is why I made this hashtag #SaveNintendo It already contained all the defense videos I can get. Here's the realistic honest truth The smash community never deserved Sakurai, Free melee was useless and pointless, they're all sacks of crap that never care about anything but just the game and they have no one to blame but themselves. Not just me! Other people on the outside want this whole s*** to End. (I'm not just some Nintendo fanboy who tells people the defense. I'm a respectful one who respects the developers manners and also loves PC and Xbox. People need a YouTuber who can tell them the truth and the reality and show them realistic proof. I'm the only one who can do it, No one else would ever do it)

@Andy Blanton Oh! So you haven't heard the actual truth haven't you. Despise the whole DMCA crap People were also guilt tripping Iwata's death as an excuse over the online membership in a disgusting and disturbing way. It humiliated a lot of innocent people online. I told people to stop politely but sadly none of them believe me. So I wrote a letter to Nintendo as a proof that they still listen to their fans and even told them about people using Iwata's death and surprisingly they responded to me.

Also, wdym people using Iwata's death as an excuse?

@M64bros yeah I used his face as an excuse for his actions because he's responsible for his actions'outcomes.

That is the most lamest excuse I've ever heard from a fan. In reality Sakurai doesn't like it when he sees people use his face as an excuse. So I'm assuming he doesn't like it when he sees people use Iwata's death as an excuse in a disgusting and disturbing way like imagine how sad he would be when he sees people doing it. I wrote a letter to Nintendo as a proof that they still listen to their fans and even I told them about people using Iwata's death As an excuse. Surprisingly and shockingly they literally responded to me. I've already made a video about it and it's already on my most popular just scroll down and you should find a video called Nintendo has officially responded to me.


I still remember when I found that ‘Super Mario Bros. Battle Royale’ game online and played the hell out of it a few times. Then, only a few weeks later, I went back to it to find out it got taken down by Nintendo. Then, when Nintendo showcased their ‘Super Mario 35th Anniversary’ Direct, they showed off a suspiciously similar concept of a Super Mario battle royale game with a much limited amount of available players in a server. Oh, and the icing on the cake, it was only available for a limited time before they took it down so no one will ever play it again. 🙄

@Da Nintendude The creator of Mario Battle Royale took out every reference to Mario and got C&D again. When he asked Nintendo's legal team what the problem was so he could fix it they refused to explain and threatened to take it down a 3rd time if he tried again.

Making it limited time absolutely sucks, but Mario 35 was actually in development before Mario Royale released.

A lot of the fangames Nintendo removes falls down to remakes, games making a profit, and games similar to games they are going to release.
The fact that AM2R was taken down was tragic. So much work went to waste. It was unfortunately the consequence of Nintendo randomly deciding to make a Metroid II remake. It's possible they even stole the idea from AM2R. But Super Mario Royale is one of the cases where it's just unfortunate coincidence.


12:21 what's the name of the song playing in the background?

@Matthew May i totally missed the Music List, thank you !

Karn Evil 9 (Midi Cover), I think, but I could be wrong, so check the music list in the description if I am.


I was once like this, I’m glad to have been cured, I like their games, old ones especially, but them as a company, they are the draconian tyrants of the industry. The very same shills go after EA and Blizzard yet don’t take the time to look at their own “lord and savior”.

@Diamond Miner I don't mind if you keep repeating this comment everywhere, but could you please separate some of it into paragraphs.


Does anyone know the name of the song playing at around 6:26?


Cana Some one share the video of the cringy guy dancing with a switch on his hands?


Do something on the sopranos. Da GABBAGOOL


Nintendo's Japanese Twitter asked for people to not stream their E3 Direct this year, they are constantly testing their power

They asked not to mirror it I'm pretty sure


22:21 that guy has a trans emoji in the name which explains it all


Thanks to Susan wachowski! 😡

I really wish YouTube isn't that pathetic.


It’s reasons like these that I’m ashamed to be a Nintendo fan. Like seriously I have a weird guilt for just liking Zelda because Nintendo treats their fans like crap.

Heck yeah is this the dogshit gang? Count me in

@Hurri cool! Now we can feel like dogshit together!

i feel like dogshit for liking nintendo games too lol


Add getting rid so many Project M videos.


On topic of their dislike for fan tributes:

SuperMarioLogan (a guy who made goofy videos with Nintendo toys) had to remove all Nintendo characters from his videos, rename them and replace them with lookalikes after Nintendo sent him a cease and desist order in February 2021. Since 2007, he used characters such as Mario, Rosalina, Bowser Jr, etc in his YouTube videos and Nintendo went thirteen years without having a single issue with him. He stated that "they love Game Theory, and he paints their characters and franchises in a negative light all the time" or something.

The Kirby: Right Back At Ya! Reanimated Collab was removed from YouTube in April 2020 due to copyright infringement, nevermind the fact that it used no footage from the original episode, only the original audio. As a result, it can be found elsewhere on Vimeo and Newgrounds.

@Nothing Really I still don't think I agree entirely, but... I'm starting to see your point, yeah. There's definitely a line to be drawn somewhere - back before big names started lobbying and abusing copyright laws, they were made for a reason - but I'm not sure if SML was on the wrong side of it, y'know?

I'll.. think on it.

@Mathematical Hypotenuse I get that Nintendo is a big company but SML had a lot of subscribers so its not like he was a small YouTuber. He has a large fanbase that he can influence and he unfortunately used Nintendo IPs. If you don't understand that he's a YouTuber with a huge following and Nintendo doesn't want to be associated with him is beyond me. Say SML had a small fan base then I wouldn't agree with Nintendo's actions either because why would they care about someone so small.

@Fredster I haven't watched his stuff in decades and I think talking over plush toys is stupid too, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo should slam him.

@Nothing Really Again, if SML's done something genuinely dismal, I understand this. If it's just "YouTuber 1/300th the size of overseas corporate juggernaut makes cringe I don't like that doesn't threaten said corporation in any tangible way", I don't. Just because that's how the law works doesn't mean it's, for a lack of a better word, bullshit.

@Mathematical Hypotenuse Yupp but if a company doesn't like the kind of content you are pushing out with their characters then by all means they have the right to. Its their IP and SML's jokes aren't even good they run along the line of misogyny, racism, sexism, making fun of the disabled etc. I guess Nintendo doesn't like their chars being portrayed with such a manner so no its not harmless since kids will venture to watch such stupidity because the characters used are well known household names nor would they want their IPs associated with stuff like that as they have explicitly told him countless times.

@wahooyahooyahoo Why? He do something especially bad lately I haven't heard of? Outed as pedo or something? Make jokes about rape? What? Because if he HAS, well, okay, I won't. If he hasn't, then no, stop.

To be fair, SML is and never will be a good YouTuber, and this is coming from an ex fan who has watched him since 2013. God I can't believe I unironically watched and enjoyed his videos.

@YeehawOutlaw But it's still a big company thousand of miles above this one guy who just bangs toys together and does voices over them to make jokes and mini-stories (with admittedly mixed results) abusing their power. SML isn't any kind of threat to Nintendo, their brand image, their profits or anything - he isn't trying to claim their characters are his, he isn't trying to pirate or steal their works - yet just because he was using them in a way THEY didn't like, however innocuous or harmless (if cringe), they threatened him with full-force legal action. While I can appreciate they cited exact reasons and you even brought this up, that doesn't change the fact that they would've done this even if they hadn't, because they do this to everyone. Just because people don't like his work doesn't mean he isn't about as much of a victim as anyone else, right?

@Nothing Really I'll give you it makes sense in context,  y'know, knowing they finally brought the axe down on him after years of holding it over his head is different from them just doing it suddenly, but that doesn't make me any more sympathetic to Nintendo or any less so to SML. The dude's been doing what he doing for almost twenty years, and his usage of Nintendo plushies/toys as characters in his videos is not any kind of threat to said characters' brand image or whatever in absolutely any humanly-fathomable way. It's harmless at worst, to say nothing of him at best. You can't tell me you REALLY support that, right?

@Nothing Really I'll give you it makes sense in *context,*  y'know, knowing they finally brought the axe down on him after years of holding it over his head is different from them just doing it suddenly, but that doesn't make me any more sympathetic to Nintendo or any less so to SML. The dude's been doing what he doing for almost twenty years, and his usage of Nintendo plushies/toys as characters in his videos is *not* any kind of threat to said characters' brand image or whatever in absolutely any humanly-fathomable way. It's harmless at worst, to say nothing of him at best. You can't tell me you REALLY support that, right?

@4nt Its amazing that those YouTubers inspired you to make videos as well but that Lego argument is terrible. Lego doesn't have the copyrights to IPs licensed by them nor do they have a reputation or personality to keep up with their own.

imagine a company having nothing better to do than to shit on YouTuber that make skits using toys that they bought from said company. That's like if Lego started taking down Lego stop-motion animation videos. If anything, it's free advertisement for your product, regardless of what money the YouTuber makes as a result. I can at least understand it in the context of Super Mario Logan (especially with characters like Black Yoshi), but if Nintendo did this to pretty much any other channel, I'd be pretty pissed.

Like, i bought a good few Mario and Sonic toys when i was a kid because of channels like MarioMario8989, SonicToast and SML. I was maybe 10 at the time, and it made me interested not only in wanting to buy Mario and Sonic products, but wanting to get into video making as a whole.

Hmm the SML issue makes sense since it paints their characters in a bad light and after many warnings(even before the cease and desist from February 2021) Logan still decided to go through with it. He brought it upon himself with his videos going downhill due to stupid unfunny jokes. As much as I liked SML its understandable. Also I don't think the videos are a fan tribute Imo they used nintendo plushies  because they are more recognizable and easier to use/obtain

The collab was removed?!? What the fuck?


Asked on r/nintendo why nintendo constantly goes against their fans. Got some ledditors telling me the same shit as always with “how it’s their legal right to fuck over their fanbase”.

Same thing happened when i asked on r/youtube if anyone had tried to send in a fake/stock id (akin to the mclovin’ one), to try and get around their draconian age-restriction. Got told how it was against their TOS 😢😢 and if i didn’t like it, i could just stop using YT and use one of the other sites, which offers nothing comparable to YT.

It honestly amazes me how people are just content with letting mega-corps fuck them in ass, and then act surprised when someone tries to protest their obvious anti-consumer practices.

@Super Luigi World 27 that’s just reddit in general

R/Nintendo is one of the worst subreddits to ever exist. The fanboys there are unbearable.


I don't like their what they're doing with Smash. I hate it, but I understand that sales need to be protected. I don't like their modding policies, but they are company policies that a company is entitled to have. Lastly, emulation is piracy, and in case you forgot, piracy is stealing. Stealing is against the law.

@CMG The Person it's fine. The selection of NES games is a bit weird, but this comes from licensing issues.

@Andy Blanton Dude, if your games keep getting pirated. Maybe your service is complete tosh (In the case of Nintendo, it's extreme tosh)

@TacoForce5 Yes, anyone who thinks that piracy is wrong is a spineless drone to Nintendo. Very sound logic.

Making copies of copyrighted media without the company's permission sounds an awful lot like using an emulator.


You should do there will never be another Brawlhalla player like sandstorm


Liked and subbed after the bit about Sakurai.... such remarkable introspection is rarely attained within our Era of mis truth.


Being a life long Nintendo fan, most of the Nintendo based products came from me being a child who didn't know about all of this. I appreciate the efforts and works they do for their games, what I don't appreciate is the many things they do to 1 make their brand only original content made by them and not their fans 2 not pay any sorts of attention to fan backlash unless it decreases their sales 3 them being so abusive with trying to sue people. I use to really enjoy their games, but as of recent I can't look at them the same anymore. I use to listen to this one Bowser theme compilation by this YouTuber "Tenpers" since nobody else has thought to make one and now that it's taken down it's a large hassle to even find most of themes anymore because people either don't upload them or they were taken down... Maybe I should just start being a Xbox fan like my brother.


"...gave that free mod for free, only for personal profit...

uh.. logic clearly failed to load for that one

@_*ZAPATOZ*_ spirtually, profit is many things. Legally, profit is just money

@dokwalk >>"Profit is strictly financial."<br>you lack soul & imagination.

@dokwalk >>"Profit is strictly financial."
you lack soul & imagination.

@Icy Wings lol no. Profit is strictly financial.

@dokwalk It's like how when you feel good when you give something to someone and they give a heartfelt "thanks"

Personal profit = Profit for one's soul/wellbeing


Nintendo fans real quiet in this comment section

@Sponge Man thats just as sad as the diehard nintendo fans

Not to mention the video says you don't have to hate Nintendo yet the newest comments are calling out the people who just want to enjoy their games, such as one comment saying any adult playing a Nintendo game is a "red flag".


14k fuckin comments, God damm, you hit something, and it hurts a lot


People are willing to make an entire fandom about complaining about every microscopic thing Disney does because of a single movie.

People are willing to shit on Blizzard after a bad PR to a game.

People are not willing to speak up about Nintendo.

@Andy Blanton but you think there's enough people to boycott Disney or blizzard... get real... double standard

Because we know that it's a waste of time. We will never get the entire US to boycott Nintendo and any company on good terms with them.


The thing that really helped put Melee's situation in context for me was how it compares to Age of Empires 2. Both games are rather old games which sold well in a similar time period, and were kept alive past that point primarily by competitive players who generally rejected the sequels. Melee-related modders (Fizzi, the Project M dev team, and so on) had their work thrown under the bus, while Nintendo did just about everything in their power to make people forget that Melee existed. Age of Empires modders, on the other hand, wound up being hired to make a certain mod into an official expansion, and then continue working with Microsoft for both further AoE2 updates as well as future games. Similarly, they added a bunch of features to improve the game's ranked mode, as well as helping support its esports scene.


The problem is, as a pretty big nintendo Fan, i want them to be good. I want them to finally engage in E-Sports, i want them to embrace modding, and i want them to drop insane games again. But it doesn't happen. And it makes me sad, but I just can't be blind to all of the stuff they do.


Amazing video!
And that's not even talking about the whole Pokémon fiasco and how people tried to excuse Nintendo for it, holy shit
There's also even stuff to talk about the Splatoon ladder horrible decisions as well. This rabbit hole never ends, and never will. As long as people are blind to nostalgia, Nintendo will keep being this horrible ass company, feeding on these people's nostalgia.

If baffles me how people tried to boycott Sword and Shield and that shit sold millions and millions of copies anyway. I never touched that thing in my life, and most likely never will. That's a mistreatment to any and all Pokémon fans, a spit on our face.