Project M was one of the many sacrifices to Nintendo, but the passionate developers are undeterred. You can check out a continuation of the mod here: https://projectplusgame.com/

EDIT: Nevermind! They shut this one down too, lol
https://twitter.com/RiptideSSB/status/1431345822566912008

Project M was one of the many sacrifices to Nintendo, but the passionate developers are undeterred. You can check out a continuation of the mod here: https://projectplusgame.com/

EDIT: Nevermind! They shut this one down too, lol
https://twitter.com/RiptideSSB/status/1431345822566912008

Mario, Fox, Ness, Link , Samus, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Red, Captain Olimar...

None of them would want this.
All the fanworks, tracks, and experiences they've cut off are as important to me as the lives these heroes were fighting for.

They're as important as the Nintendo experiences that brought so much happiness to me, vitally important hapiness that I've shared with equally important people in my life who have unfortunately come and gone. The experiences that played an integral part in making the person I am today. The experiences I had the blessing of sharing with people who aren't with us anymore.

Ironically, the more I love Nintendo, the more I hate the evil they stand for. The indifference and mockery they have for us is unforgivable.

The only way for me to pay any respect to the experiences Nintendo made for me, is by confronting them.

We are Nintendo. It isn't the aloof army of businessmen that destroy everything we create for the sake of nickle and diming every last bit of profit they can make.
Much like their games' protagonists, we must stand as heroes facing down tyrants looking to enforce their false power.

Out of sheer respect I'll face them. For everything they've given me, I'll face them.
Even if it's Reggie, Satoru, Sakurai, or Shigeru himself.

Everything they stand for is what we are. If they're against us, it's our sworn duty to bring them to justice.
It's the only course of action strong enough to honor everything they've done for us.
You ever played Mother 3?

It feels as if Nintendo defenders view us as being too logical and lacking in emotion. I'm telling you, everything about this comes from a burning, screaming, crying place of raw emotion. Essentially, I want to live. I want to exist. I used to tune into to SM64's Staff Roll and OOT's opening all the time just to bawl and remember the days I've had with my deceased older sister. Now they're gone because Nintendo deleted them. Why? Because money. Haha, you stupid for not believing in ((((((THAT'S HOW THE LAW WORKS)))))), durr. The legacy, the years of comments from Nintendo fans sharing their intimate moments with those themes are all gone now, for nothing.
You have no idea what kind of mental state this puts me in.

In fact, it's all I see everytime I look at Nintendo. Especially given the rest of their unspoken track record as a company.

It's like the Gods and Titans in God of War. Because of their cold, carnivorous, ravenous indifference, all of reality is pretty much doomed unless the entire system is completely destroyed and remade from scratch. The only thing Fear did is reveal their sinful nature. It's pretty clear that most of the rage that Kratos expresses throughout his adventures comes from the fact that he's living in a reality where there's nothing for him but slavery and vapid pleasures. Essentially, something that isn't worth living for. So he goes on to destroy just about everything because none of the value derived from the reality he lives in will amount to anything significant.

If all the employees currently working in Nintendo were kicked out of the company, replaced by all the fan modders they rolled over, we wouldn't have to live in existential dread of getting next to no games on virtual console, having fan creations destroyed, having Nintendo constantly prey upon all competition in the worst way, having scarce releases (such as Luigi's Mansion fading into obscurity because of scarcity), and we wouldn't even have a brutally expensive secondhand market because all that stuff could get re-released officially.
Also, Nintendo is losing its edge.
If fanmodders were running Nintendo and had their budgets, they could listen to fan criticism to further improve their work. Something Nintendo doesn't actually do.
Look at BOTW. Most of that game is just the same assets repeated over and over in a repetitive way. Sure, the environments look amazing, but if you constantly found new assets instead of the same re-used enemies it would be a much better game experience.

If Toby Fox had Nintendo's budget, Deltarune could get released tomorrow, sharp. Then he could go on to make several hundred other fantastic projects.
Deltarune chapter 2 even has new quality of life features that might have been derived from really close criticism.

Just wanna make clear, no disrespect bro. You seem like a nice person but maybe take things a little easier. I have really bad anxiety about everything too but it's always important to acknowledge when things aren't as bad as they actually are. I feel Omori is a perfect representation of how to handle these situations.

As for your dream to work with Nintendo... I feel as though when the moment of truth comes, your bubble's gonna get bursted. I pay close attention to human behavior and the reasonings behind it and it's pretty clear that Nintendo doesn't respect you. I'm pretty confident that japanese companies are too xenophobic to even consider hiring a foreigner for their internal work. Foreigners only get hired for things like translation and localization. Judging from Nintendo's previous actions, they would definitely be at the forefront of this corporate xenophobia. All I can do is hope that you do get picked up, because as it stands, it's very unlikely. If that's something Nintendo did, we should've seen plenty of foreign names in their credit sequences by now, but instead, all we get are crowdfunded indiegames that are clearly inspired by Nintendo. Those people definitely would've been interested in being a part of Nintendo, but instead they take on the monumental task of making their game on their own.

Also, EmpLemon, thanks for making more green simpsons. It really helps with my depression.

Also, also, another thing of note... Remember when Viacom was making low-quality spam videos that blended in with the rest of the videos of their shows? I think the reason Nintendo refuses to put games on the eshop, and creates a sense of scarcity most of the time is because they could potentially be the ones behind most of the scalping and re-used game sales.

@Lukas Magnus switzerland a gangsta's paradise if so

@Lukas Magnus switzerland a gangsta's paradise if so

three hours ago, nintendo struck down riptide's project+ events

i guess some things never change

three hours ago, nintendo struck down riptide's project+ events

i guess some things never change

A project + tourney just got shut down LMFAO

A project + tourney just got shut down LMFAO

Btw here in switzerland downloading everything for free is legal, just uploading isnt

Btw here in switzerland downloading everything for free is legal, just uploading isnt

Are you ever going to get back to doing YouTube poops

Are you ever going to get back to doing YouTube poops

There’s a reason I go to your channel, for the stuff I don’t like talking about.

There’s a reason I go to your channel, for the stuff I don’t like talking about.

I would love it if you make a Never Ever for TF2

I would love it if you make a Never Ever for TF2

@Donkey Kong Fan It sucks that your definition of a fan is so devoted to the company that the pointlessly shitty things said company does can be ignored so easily. If that's not your definition I don't see how you could think he was talking about all of the company's fans. As to why he cares, I don't know about you but I think empathy towards the people Nintendo wronged might have something to do with it. His video is not without flaws, so you shouldn't have to create them. Despite the fact that I think you left a bad comment I don't think it makes you a bad person. Hope you have a good day/night

NIIIICE!! lets hope nintendont get their hands on this

NIIIICE!! lets hope nintendont get their hands on this

Emp, I think you would make a very good podcast

Emp, I think you would make a very good podcast

@Journey'sEnd Apology accepted. I appreciate your understanding, and I apologize for all the slanderous things I said about you. Honestly, I’ve been back and forth on this video because it’s such a mixed bag. On one hand, I’m glad EmpLemon acknowledged Nintendo’s ability to consistently make amazing games while treating they’re employees very good, and saying that he’s not asking people to hate Nintendo or the fans. But on the other hand, he called Switch owners pathetic and insinuated that the Nintendo fan base deserves to be called one of the worst. That stuff is very degrading, and it’s pretty hard to believe Emp said that with good intent in mind. I may be wrong, so let’s just agree to disagree there.

My frustrations in the earlier comments stem from a certain notion that I have. All I want to do is love Nintendo in peace. I do my part of allowing fans of other companies to do the same. I never insult fans of Sony, Microsoft, or any other company because I want to treat others the way I want to be treated. When I continue to get comments and videos like these, it leads me to be frustrated. It also causes me anxiety, because I love Nintendo and I worry about encountering people just as nasty as the ones in this comments section. I got accepted to my most wanted University. I was all excited until this video came up, and my anxiety from this video and its comments snowballed into me being anxious about the very university I’m excited for, because I’m afraid to encounter people like the ones in this comments section. Obviously, social media is not real life, so I’m probably worrying for nothing, but still. I’m not trying to blame EmpLemon for anything here, as my anxiety is a me problem, but I hope he at least understands where I’m coming from.

Last but not least, as for your comment about me having to stop tying myself to a company, I see where you’re coming from, but I’ll have to disagree. Loving a company is a wonderful thing for both the customer, and the company. The customer strives to help make the company the best it can possibly be, and the company improves because of that. Just my two cents.

Nice talking to you :)

This comment section is why you should raise your kids instead of letting them be raised by media companies

This comment section is why you should raise your kids instead of letting them be raised by media companies

@emplemon can you pls talk about ea fan the are crazy letting buy sport and don't care ever year thank you.

@emplemon can you pls talk about ea fan the are crazy letting buy sport and don't care ever year thank you.

@Donkey Kong Fan  There's a lot that I would like to say and there's a bunch more that I should say but I really think that it's more respectful of me to see why you made a decision that you made and to see the growth that you made through actually facing your own fears and to acknowledge that rather than to just spread hate or to be Uber defensive.

We all have battles that were fighting and we all sometimes step into a ring that we're not ready for.

The last thing I do want to tell you if anything is don't tie yourself to a company because their job is to present an image and Nintendo of America is not the same as the head honcho Nintendo of Japan The American culture and the Japanese culture of vastly different Just do realize that the behavior that this company has shown may not be in your best interest even if you are a fan of the products that they produce

@Donkey Kong Fan  I read through all the comments that you made and I want to personally apologize to you. Not because I think you're right or wrong but because you stated that you have Asperger's and that you initially didn't watch the video which I've also read how you did watch it and you came to a different conclusion.

@Donkey Kong Fan  I read through all the comments that you made and I want to personally apologize to you. Not because I think you're right or wrong but because you stated that you have Asperger's and that you initially didn't watch the video which I've also read how you did watch it and you came to a different conclusion.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto You're still not helping. Just because of one thing I said that only you are against doesn't make me a complete child. This conversation is something that I can easily to get over with, and I'm pretty sure Nintendo will realize they're doing something wrong anyway. And because you're not helping, I don't think I will remember you at all. Name-calling doesn't help the situation, and its annoying.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
No, I'm not a kid at all. I wasn't even a kid when I started YouTube years ago, and kids can't have YouTube accounts. I just can't find any easy method that'll get Nintendo to realize all of this.

Why are you making up information without proving it?

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
No, I'm not a kid at all. I wasn't even a kid when I started YouTube years ago, and kids can't have YouTube accounts. I just can't find any easy method that'll get Nintendo to realize all of this.

Why are you making up information without proving it?

@Romania<br>Most videos talking about Nintendo like this aren't taken down at all.

@Romania
Most videos talking about Nintendo like this aren't taken down at all.

@EmpLemon
Aren't there many other developers (even large movie studios) that don't mess with YouTube videos? If I'm right, then Nintendo is not like any other company.

@EmpLemon
Aren't there many other developers (even large movie studios) that don't mess with YouTube videos? If I'm right, then Nintendo is *not* like any other company.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto<br>It'll be too late by the time I'm able to do that. Honestly, the phone call solution is the only method that I proved would work if enough people did it. If the people behind the Sonic movie (Paramount is the company) took the backlash, why wouldn't Nintendo?

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
It'll be too late by the time I'm able to do that. Honestly, the phone call solution is the only method that I proved would work if enough people did it. If the people behind the Sonic movie (Paramount is the company) took the backlash, why wouldn't Nintendo?

@Carlo Nassar In other words, invest a couple million at Nintendo and become an investor. That way you can actually influence them.

@Carlo Nassar In other words, invest a couple million at Nintendo and become an investor. That way you can actually influence them.

@Carlo Nassar Dont buy their products, you mindless consumer.

If you cannot resist then pirate.

@Carlo Nassar Dont buy their products, you mindless consumer.

If you cannot resist then pirate.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
Dude, you're not helping by bringing up their stock. How am I bring a child? I'm trying to get lots of people to contact Nintendo only once, and there's no other way to fight back in a way that someone at Nintendo would actually listen. In fact, when you tell me something that you don't even try doing won't work, it's so dumb. Please give me another method that's not waiting for them to hit rock bottom or somehow realize what they're doing and eventually improve. We can't wait any longer.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
Dude, you're not helping by bringing up their stock. How am I bring a _child?_ I'm trying to get *lots of people* to contact Nintendo only once, and there's no other way to fight back in a way that someone at Nintendo would actually listen. In fact, when you tell me something that you don't even try doing won't work, it's so dumb. Please give me another method that's not waiting for them to hit rock bottom or somehow realize what they're doing and eventually improve. We can't wait any longer.

The stock swap deal valued Sega between $1.45 billion and $1.8 billion,Valve's value is $10 billion.

Nintendo is 37 billion.

Do you think your pathetic e-mail spam will get them to do anything?
Don't be a child.

The stock swap deal valued Sega between $1.45 billion and $1.8 billion,Valve's value is $10 billion.

Nintendo is 37 billion.

Do you think your pathetic e-mail spam will get them to do anything?
Don't be a child.

@Carlo Nassar The stock swap deal valued Sega between $1.45 billion and $1.8 billion,Valve's value is $10 billion.

Nintendo is 37 billion.

Do you think your pathetic e-mail spam will get them to do anything?
Don't be a child.

@Carlo Nassar The stock swap deal valued Sega between $1.45 billion and $1.8 billion,Valve's value is $10 billion.

Nintendo is 37 billion.

Do you think your pathetic e-mail spam will get them to do anything?
Don't be a child.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto<br>Oh yeah? You could say that with the first Sonic movie trailer, back when the VFX people did a lazy job. You'd think all the backlash about it would be taken as trolling, but no. How is this any different? Plus, another YouTuber named WAMO said the same thing with Valve on the TF2 bots. Try telling him it would be trolling.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto
Oh yeah? You could say that with the first Sonic movie trailer, back when the VFX people did a lazy job. You'd think all the backlash about it would be taken as trolling, but no. How is this any different? Plus, another YouTuber named WAMO said the same thing with Valve on the TF2 bots. Try telling him it would be trolling.

@Carlo Nassar Mass calling a phone out of protest will just get the entire "movement" dismissed as trolling.

@Carlo Nassar Mass calling a phone out of protest will just get the entire "movement" dismissed as trolling.

I should also mention that even the people that are NOT Nintendo-defending fanboys won't do anything to help the situation either. Yes, even people like us are not pushing enough. There's literally a way to contact Nintendo specialists in their own website. Do you need more proof for it? Well, it's below what I typed. Basically, you have to call the customer support phone number, then you have to press 0 every time they give you options on who you're trying to reach (just press 0 and no other key), and you'll actually get a specialist. I managed to do that twice, and I was allowed to give them my concern (mostly the YouTube copyright takedowns) both times. I was then told that my feedback would be routed to other workers at Nintendo. That said, I think it needs enough people doing the same thing. If I'm the only one doing it when it actually works, how are we going to see any improvements? I guarantee that if lots of people do what I already did, the people working at Nintendo of America would understand that it's affecting Nintendo as a whole and would easily start doing something about it. Speaking of Nintendo of America, maybe they need more control over what to do fan uploads and fan games like Sega of America does.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact

Nintendo of America

4600 150th Ave NE

Redmond, WA 98052

Source for Address: https://www.nintendo.com/about/

I should also mention that even the people that are *NOT* Nintendo-defending fanboys won't do anything to help the situation either. Yes, even people like us are not pushing enough. There's literally a way to contact Nintendo specialists *in their own website.* Do you need more proof for it? Well, it's below what I typed. Basically, you have to call the customer support phone number, then you have to press 0 every time they give you options on who you're trying to reach (just press 0 and no other key), and you'll actually get a specialist. I managed to do that twice, and I was allowed to give them my concern (mostly the YouTube copyright takedowns) both times. I was then told that my feedback would be routed to other workers at Nintendo. That said, I think it needs enough people doing the same thing. If I'm the only one doing it when it actually works, how are we going to see any improvements? I guarantee that if lots of people do what I already did, the people working at Nintendo of America would understand that it's affecting Nintendo as a whole and would easily start doing something about it. Speaking of Nintendo of America, maybe they need more control over what to do fan uploads and fan games like Sega of America does.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact

Nintendo of America
4600 150th Ave NE
Redmond, WA 98052
Source for Address: https://www.nintendo.com/about/

Everything you said on your video is wrong.

Everything you said on your video is wrong.

@Gene Takovic those are solar sands videos not emplemon

@Gene Takovic those are solar sands videos not emplemon

@Donkey Kong Fan that's not what he said at all

@Donkey Kong Fan that's not what he said at all

Ive got a copy of PM 5.somthing just chilling on a SD card waiting for its day

Ive got a copy of PM 5.somthing just chilling on a SD card waiting for its day

@Journey'sEnd Actually, no. I think <i>you’re</i> the problem if you think only one company is the cause of the entire gaming industry’s issues. Sony and Microsoft both have flaws, and you could make them look like horrible companies if you solely look at their flaws like EmpLemon did with this video. Not like I’m all for doing that, but considering EmpLemon did a hit piece on Nintendo, he should do one on the other companies too. Especially since he blindly insults all Nintendo fans throughout the entire video like an asshole. If he doesn’t do videos on at least one other company, that’ll just prove that he’s the fanboy/hater here.

@Journey'sEnd Actually, no. I think _you’re_ the problem if you think only one company is the cause of the entire gaming industry’s issues. Sony and Microsoft both have flaws, and you could make them look like horrible companies if you solely look at their flaws like EmpLemon did with this video. Not like I’m all for doing that, but considering EmpLemon did a hit piece on Nintendo, he should do one on the other companies too. Especially since he blindly insults all Nintendo fans throughout the entire video like an asshole. If he doesn’t do videos on at least one other company, that’ll just prove that he’s the fanboy/hater here.

@UB that was 20xxte imo, but Dan salvato may have worked on that too idk

@UB that was 20xxte imo, but Dan salvato may have worked on that too idk

I hope they keep it going.
Seeing dedicated well made mods in games is something I think is embraceable.
Yes we get alot of cringe inducing garbage...
But the stuff people make are also something amazing.

I hope they keep it going.
Seeing dedicated well made mods in games is something I think is embraceable.
Yes we get alot of cringe inducing garbage...
But the stuff people make are also something amazing.

Just want you to know that I love your channel, it’s unique, has a documentary style, and memes. Keep up the good work.

Just want you to know that I love your channel, it’s unique, has a documentary style, and memes. Keep up the good work.

@Donkey Kong Fan  You're the problem

Sony and Microsoft have issues but they don't attack US, their fans, nearly as much and nearly as often.

Wake up and see, do some personal research!

'It's not anyone's job to educate oneself than thy self"

He owes you nothing in this world and if you want it, you should be inspired and make it yourself.

I have so many good memories from project M. I even got to go and attend competitions back in middle school. Granted I lost the first round, then proceeded to lose again in the first round of the losers bracket. Regardless of how hard it was, that is where the fun lied. It was crazy to see how good some people where.

I have so many good memories from project M. I even got to go and attend competitions back in middle school. Granted I lost the first round, then proceeded to lose again in the first round of the losers bracket. Regardless of how hard it was, that is where the fun lied. It was crazy to see how good some people where.

well,
they stole mario 25
they stole many of the new mons in sword and shield
they stole metroid
they stole mario 3d all stars
and they prosecute people for playing games they rightfully and knowingly will NEVER remaster, remake, or release on current consoles.

well,
they stole mario 25
they stole many of the new mons in sword and shield
they stole metroid
they stole mario 3d all stars
and they prosecute people for playing games they rightfully and knowingly will NEVER remaster, remake, or release on current consoles.

Yep, imagine being stans of a corporation that doesn't care about them! That's truly sad!

Yep, imagine being stans of a corporation that doesn't care about them! That's truly sad!

Emp, now that you’ve made a video criticizing Nintendo, so you promise to do the same with Sony and Microsoft?

All companies have their flaws, so it would only be fair if you made videos dedicated to all three gaming companies.

Emp, now that you’ve made a video criticizing Nintendo, so you promise to do the same with Sony and Microsoft?

All companies have their flaws, so it would only be fair if you made videos dedicated to all three gaming companies.

You should see the Nintendo Switch OLED announcement trailer (it's getting Byleth'd)

You should see the Nintendo Switch OLED announcement trailer (it's getting Byleth'd)

@Masked Badass  church of apple is a church of elitism so just as bad

@Masked Badass  church of apple is a church of elitism so just as bad

The only thing worse than the church of Nintendo is the church of Apple... No wait, at least they're not actively working to destroy society, that would be the church of social justice.

The only thing worse than the church of Nintendo is the church of Apple... No wait, at least they're not actively working to destroy society, that would be the church of social justice.

Thanks for this emp. Bring the game we love back

Thanks for this emp. Bring the game we love back

@Monke Lounge dan salvato is one of the devs of ddlc, and he was in the project m's team. Apparently without him everything fell apart

@Monke Lounge dan salvato is one of the devs of ddlc, and he was in the project m's team. Apparently without him everything fell apart

@psychologyman I thought they were done with amiibo, then I saw they were locking fast travel in the definitely-worth-it Skyward Sword "HD" behind a 25 dollar figurine

fast travel.

locked behind a figure.

@psychologyman I thought they were done with amiibo, then I saw they were locking fast travel in the definitely-worth-it Skyward Sword "HD" behind a 25 dollar figurine

fast travel.

locked behind a figure.

Funny how Nintendo does this, yet it was Disney that allowed them to do it, due to something they did in the 70s

Funny how Nintendo does this, yet it was Disney that allowed them to do it, due to something they did in the 70s

@calypso  sorry about that I didn't get my message finished properly.... But you still do have a strong point. Streams Only help with multiplayer games

@calypso  sorry about that I didn't get my message finished properly.... But you still do have a strong point. Streams Only help with multiplayer games

@Donkey Kong Fan
It's really good that you pushed through and actually watched the video you previously commented on.
The context really adds to the ability to comment on it.

From the thumbnail it would seem to be a personal attack on you for liking these products, and your knee-jerk reaction was one of Emp's main concerns about consumer's relationship to Nintendo.

It's probably a good example to use for putting some boundaries on what you consume, and what defines you as a person.

The video a bit memey and bitter, but has some really good points.

Donkey Kong was my first console love, back in '94 - '96, but I'm not blind to the ways in which 'big N' has prevented me from enjoying their products, or fan made versions of things.

I hope you're doing ok. And I hope you can use this revelation about critique and personal attack for personal growth.
✌

@M64bros what does that have to do with my point??

@M64bros what does that have to do with my point??

I love how that stadia guy got thousands of replies by angry fanboys upset that their favorite streamer should pay but what the guy said its true.

Heavily story driven games get hurt by streamers because if you already saw the plot, the twists and everything a game has to offer the odds of you buying that game are slim to none and don't fucking lie saying you do it.

Streams only help multi-player games period

@BrickFighter 13 ooooh the anime dating game okay I get it. 👍

@BrickFighter 13 ooooh the anime dating game okay I get it. 👍

No....what I just said is actually in DDLC. DDLC has a lot of moments that happen at random

No....what I just said is actually in DDLC. DDLC has a lot of moments that happen at random

@BrickFighter 13 wait...... Is that one of those personalized copy memes jokes you're talking about. Cuz I've heard one of those on YouTube some of them were pretty hilarious but some of them were pretty horrifying.

@BrickFighter 13 wait...... Is that one of those personalized copy memes jokes you're talking about. Cuz I've heard one of those on YouTube some of them were pretty hilarious but some of them were pretty horrifying.

@M64bros years ago Nintendo killed one of Dan's passion projects in Project M. Nowadays his own game is now being sold officially by Nintendo themselves on their console. It's even apparent that there are easter eggs in the game alluding the Project M and Smash in general. Such as when booting up the game, there is a chance you'll get "PM Died for this" instead of the warning screen. Along with unused text from Monika near the end of the game where she brings up Super Smash Bros...before she cuts herself off and dusts it under the rug

At least one of the devs named "Dan Salvato" managed to still get some work as he created the ever so popular psychological horror game disguised as a dating sim "Doki Doki Literature Club". Now look at him, his game is now being sold on a Nintendo console in the Nintendo Switch.....how the tides have turned

At least one of the devs named "Dan Salvato" managed to still get some work as he created the ever so popular psychological horror game disguised as a dating sim "Doki Doki Literature Club". Now look at him, his game is now being sold on a Nintendo console in the Nintendo Switch.....how the tides have turned

At least Nintendo never listens to SJWS's or woke people. (That's a good sign at least)

At least Nintendo never listens to SJWS's or woke people. (That's a good sign at least)

If there is anything I can criticize this video on, is that you seem to think the Switch user base is mostly “die hard fans.” But this is not true at all. If it was, how would you explain the Wii U being such a flop? I think it’s safe to say that every die hard Nintendo fan brought that system, and that didn’t make it successful.

If there is anything I can criticize this video on, is that you seem to think the Switch user base is mostly “die hard fans.” But this is not true at all. If it was, how would you explain the Wii U being such a flop? I think it’s safe to say that every die hard Nintendo fan brought that system, and that didn’t make it successful.

@Jerry [???] But I am a fan of the company. So much so that it’s my goal to work for them. What do I do then?

@Jerry [???] But I am a fan of the company. So much so that it’s my goal to work for them. What do I do then?

@SilphBoss Well the great thing is, I wasn’t bitching to Nintendo when those things happened. I’m not one to insult companies, especially my favorite one. So by definition, I wasn’t being a hypocrite by buying their games. Before you accuse me of anything, I only buy their games that I’m interested in, I don’t buy all of their games without question.

There's SO MANY OTHERS put there! My personal favorite is PMEX Remix.

There's SO MANY OTHERS put there! My personal favorite is PMEX Remix.

@Donkey Kong Fan because so many of you (yes this is generalizing) will be very hypocritical when defending Nintendo:
Nintendo DMCAs slippi, everyone complained and fruitlessly bitched at Nintendo, then what do the fans do? Immediately go buy 3d all stars that came out right after.
Nintendo has dmca'd so many fan games, removed the virtual console while simultaneously cease and desisting emulation sites, it's like they don't want people to enjoy their old stuff.
If you have any dislike towards Nintendo, the most impactful thing you can do is vote with your wallet. Don't buy breath of the wild 2, or whatever comes next.

 I haven't watched the video yet, but I will now.

@Ethan Weegee Nintendo is not Facebook, and it’s foolish to compare them since the way those two companies work are completely different. Like I said, I visited Nintendo’s headquarters and they treated me so well that they granted me access to their employee-only store when they’re usually not supposed to. I’m pursuing my dream to work for them too and will consider them my friend. Considering them my friend will strive me to help make them better.

@Donkey Kong Fan It doesn't offend me. At the end of the day, I don't lose sleep.
But it's going to hit you like a truck sooner or later. In modern capitalist society, no companies are your 'friend'. They will do anything for money. *Anything.* (Like Facebook who regularly breaks laws because it's more profitable to gather tons of illegal data and pay the fine than not have that data)

@Donkey Kong Fan It doesn't offend me. At the end of the day, I don't lose sleep.
But it's going to hit you like a truck sooner or later. In modern capitalist society, no companies are your 'friend'. They will do anything for money. **Anything.** (Like Facebook who regularly breaks laws because it's more profitable to gather tons of illegal data and pay the fine than not have that data)

AM2R is also still alive too. Just check reddit

AM2R is also still alive too. Just check reddit

Does anybody know why some of his videos are deleted?

The thalasophobia one
The corporate artstyle one
A lot of them actualy

Does anybody know why some of his videos are deleted?

The thalasophobia one
The corporate artstyle one
A lot of them actualy

@Ethan Weegee Why does me considering Nintendo my friend affect you in any way? Why are so so offended by me being a Nintendo fan and wanting to work for them? I really don’t understand.

@Ethan Weegee Why does me considering Nintendo my friend affect you in any way? Why are so so offended by me being a Nintendo fan and wanting to work for them? I really don’t understand.

Strange, I had heard that the PM devs were actively inhibiting fans from finishing Project M and intentionally withheld a finished 4.0. Or did that stop once Icons died?

Strange, I had heard that the PM devs were actively inhibiting fans from finishing Project M and intentionally withheld a finished 4.0. Or did that stop once Icons died?

@Dank Memes do not suggestion order? Tf.

@Dank Memes do not suggestion order? Tf.

@Donkey Kong Fan I'm passionate about Nintendo and agree with all of his points. Is it legitimate yet?

E: You took back some of your more egregious claims (funnily enough you actually failed watched the video, which is literally proving the point of the video about blind fans). I still have a problem with you considering Nintendo your 'friend.' Nintendo is not a person, does not have feelings or morals or empathy. Nintendo is a company that wants to make money, just like any other company.

Well the etikon was then reveal to be a scam, bu that still doesn't forgive that action.

Well the etikon was then reveal to be a scam, bu that still doesn't forgive that action.

Great video really opening our eyes to nintendo greed and wrong doing in the past and now.

Great video really opening our eyes to nintendo greed and wrong doing in the past and now.

I guess we players gave Nintendo too many inches, and now they take not just a mile, but a light year.

I guess we players gave Nintendo too many inches, and now they take not just a mile, but a light year.

Nintendo fanboys be like:
Ahhh!... Nintendo, what you doin'
to me...uhhh.. take it off!... uhh...
take it all off!!.. 😂😆🤣

Nintendo fanboys be like:
Ahhh!... Nintendo, what you doin'
to me...uhhh.. take it off!... uhh...
take it all off!!.. 😂😆🤣

Also I think EmpLemon is too smart for his own good. I genuinely like every video made, however these corporate entities are fucking dickheads and are absolutely against the public, they just want to steal your time and your money, check out citizens united as proof...

Also I think EmpLemon is too smart for his own good. I genuinely like every video made, however these corporate entities are fucking dickheads and are absolutely against the public, they just want to steal your time and your money, check out citizens united as proof...

Notorious subcultures should include mk lol, I love MK not to a religious level though...also emplemon goated

Notorious subcultures should include mk lol, I love MK not to a religious level though...also emplemon goated

@Diamond Miner this was a joy to read!<br>Well said, mate!

@Diamond Miner this was a joy to read!
Well said, mate!

You seem to want us to assume that emulators and "E-sports organizers" are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts...
Just like the professional sports leagues do...
If someone controlled the rights to football and took a look at what the NFL has done to it (cheating, fixed games, GAMBLING, drugs, ALL ABOUT MONEY etc.), and said "NO WAY" or if the inventor of a new sport said "Sorry, you "organizers" (carpet-baggers), this is for ..." kids, Or physical fitness, you know, good things, you'd object.
Or even if said owner decided, "I don't want this...'cause I don't" Oh well, we'll just steal it, or put it on our website so others can steal it...
It's ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY. E-sports is another thing that will RUIN gaming. Just like the whole pay-to-win/lootboxes scam.

@Donkey Kong Fan I'm glad you gave the video a chance! I have a ton of nintendo consoles myself an snes an ultra hdmi n64 2 gamecubes a nintendo wii 3 wii u a new 3ds a old japanese 3ds with capture mod installed two switches I love nintendo ips and consoles. Some of what nintendo does is questionable and outrageous at times but they know how to do games to please a ton

emplemon, have you heard of the story of warchamp being the one who brought PM down? I've seen screenshots of warchamp admitting to the fact that he shut PM down so it wouldn't compete with his new game ICONS.

emplemon, have you heard of the story of warchamp being the one who brought PM down? I've seen screenshots of warchamp admitting to the fact that he shut PM down so it wouldn't compete with his new game ICONS.

@Robert Verdugo Updates are still happening! The next one will wait for a while though- they need post-covid tourneys to geta data from before making more balance changes.

@Robert Verdugo Updates are still happening! The next one will wait for a while though- they need post-covid tourneys to geta data from before making more balance changes.

@UB He was not the only dev for PM, there was a large team. But yes, otherwise correct

@UB He was not the only dev for PM, there was a large team. But yes, otherwise correct

I  bought a new copy of brawl just for this mod only to find that it was discontinued!! So this is great news!

I  bought a new copy of brawl just for this mod only to find that it was discontinued!! So this is great news!

I only retro game Nintendo stuff now. Here lately, been replaying the old Metroids like Super and Prime. <br>Sure, it came from the hype from Dread. But I’ll gladly observe the next generation, and keep enjoying the eras when they gave a fuck about the GAMES, and not just the money.

I only retro game Nintendo stuff now. Here lately, been replaying the old Metroids like Super and Prime.
Sure, it came from the hype from Dread. But I’ll gladly observe the next generation, and keep enjoying the eras when they gave a fuck about the GAMES, and not just the money.

My opinion:

Has Nintendo made some video games I enjoy playing?

Absolutely. They have some very talented developers (I’d argue Sakurai who you mentioned being one of them), and there are a lot of great memories I’ve had with some of the originals of the GameCube, Wii, and Switch, as well as on emulator, N64.

That being said, do they deserve criticism for their business practices and the way they react to what people do with their products on the internet?

Absolutely, and people should become more aware of all the things you mentioned. Free Melee, and the pricing practices are well known, but in particular, they should be criticized much more for exploiting flaws in copyright laws (which is not to defend them, but is an argument for reforming those laws).

Great video, and as I like to put it: It’s possible to hold two thoughts in your head about something simultaneously.

@Donkey Kong Fan That's why you need to watch the hole video before criticizing, bc otherwise you have no idea what are you talking about

@Donkey Kong Fan That's why you need to watch the hole video before criticizing, bc otherwise you have no idea what are you talking about

Project M didn't actually die for nothing. It died for DDLC

Project M didn't actually die for nothing. It died for DDLC

Cant agree with this video more, it's why im cautious to say I'm a fan of nintendo, I personally believe that u can still criticize and disagree with something ur a fan of.

Cant agree with this video more, it's why im cautious to say I'm a fan of nintendo, I personally believe that u can still criticize and disagree with something ur a fan of.

@Donkey Kong Fan You are allowed to like a game series but when the company does deplorable stuff like Nintendo does, you need to speak up. Don't let them get away with it.

@Donkey Kong Fan You are allowed to like a game series but when the company does deplorable stuff like Nintendo does, you need to speak up. Don't let them get away with it.

@buttbutt12 I have now watched the video and you were actually right. I still consider Nintendo to be my friend, but I now understand that this video wasn’t made to hate Nintendo and its fans. It’s made as a heartfelt plea to Nintendo so that they can be the best company they can possibly be. I didn’t know this before because I allowed my anxiety to prevent me from watching the video and making assumptions. But now I know, and I want to apologize to you for causing you trouble.

@Tyrese Johnson I have now watched the video and you were right. This video was not made to direct hate toward Nintendo and its fans. This video was made as a heartfelt plea for Nintendo to improve and be the best company they can possibly be. I previously didn’t know that because I allowed my anxiety prevent me from watching the video and making assumptions. I’m sorry for the trouble I have caused you.

Thanks Emp! I was already interested in Project Plus so it's nice to see other people learning about it.

Thanks Emp! I was already interested in Project Plus so it's nice to see other people learning about it.

I’m sorry Emp your criticism is valid and I truly do agree but Nintendo’s games are my favorite things an I can’t let them go

I’m sorry Emp your criticism is valid and I truly do agree but Nintendo’s games are my favorite things an I can’t let them go

Good shit my nigga keep that shit up bruh

Good shit my nigga keep that shit up bruh

@Polar Bear Interesting, yeah it sounds like not only is he a very talented developer and modder, but probably a massive fan of the smash bros series if he's made more than one mod for it's games.

@Polar Bear Interesting, yeah it sounds like not only is he a very talented developer and modder, but probably a massive fan of the smash bros series if he's made more than one mod for it's games.

Remember: Civvie 11 has a miniscule chance to use the John frame.

Remember: Civvie 11 has a miniscule chance to use the John frame.

I wouldn’t have a problem with this if it wasn’t for the fact Nintendo doesn’t even make it easy to get our hands on products so emulation is the only reasonable answer

I wouldn’t have a problem with this if it wasn’t for the fact Nintendo doesn’t even make it easy to get our hands on products so emulation is the only reasonable answer

@UB If you're talking about Dan Salvato,  he was part of the PMDT, though he also did make 20XX, which was a really awesome training pack for Melee. It had a ton of useful features and a very helpful debug mode, 20XX replaced Melee in a lot of places, including the locals I went to.

@UB If you're talking about Dan Salvato,  he was part of the PMDT, though he also did make 20XX, which was a really awesome training pack for Melee. It had a ton of useful features and a very helpful debug mode, 20XX replaced Melee in a lot of places, including the locals I went to.

Thanks you for telling PM's story, and even bigger thanks for sharing P+! PM died for nothing but P+ is still carrying the torch as the best smash game to boot. :)

Thanks you for telling PM's story, and even bigger thanks for sharing P+! PM died for nothing but P+ is still carrying the torch as the best smash game to boot. :)

@GZ The person who granted me access to their employee-only store was a front desk worker. So she had zero financial incentive to grant me access.<br>I get that you’re desperately trying to discourage me from being a Nintendo fan, but maybe next time, don’t automatically assume stuff because you’re just making a fool out of yourself.

@GZ The person who granted me access to their employee-only store was a front desk worker. So she had zero financial incentive to grant me access.
I get that you’re desperately trying to discourage me from being a Nintendo fan, but maybe next time, don’t automatically assume stuff because you’re just making a fool out of yourself.

No newer Super Mario Bros series to be continued

No newer Super Mario Bros series to be continued

Knowing Nintendo this will be at best claimed

Knowing Nintendo this will be at best claimed

@Donkey Kong Fan you are only their friend because you are good business. you are what we call a "sucker" in the business industry.  if you don't understand that your a lost cause sorry for being harsh but i seen your string of comments please stop posting and don't blindly believe things and do your own research and come to your own conclusions and don't blindly believe others or other companies just cause they acted nice one or a few times they only took you to the company store because they WANTED YOUR MONEY!

16:23 As someone who has done Nintendo Let's Plays on YouTube, all I can say is "yeah, right"

16:23 As someone who has done Nintendo Let's Plays on YouTube, all I can say is "yeah, right"

@Andrewgtv05 Is that why they don't use nintedo stuff anymore? Huh

@Andrewgtv05 Is that why they don't use nintedo stuff anymore? Huh

@buttbutt12 I’m getting really sick and tired of people like you making ignorant comments about Nintendo “not being my friend.” They are my friend, and way more of a friend to me than you are. I visited Nintendo’s American Headquarters and they treated me so nicely that they allowed me to visit their employee-only store.

My dream is to work for Nintendo in the future. And people like you and Emp want to actively discourage me from pursuing my dream. I agree that Nintendo should do better and we should let them know. I want them to be the very best they can. But there are way better ways than this. When I work for Nintendo, I will give them constructive criticism that comes from a place of love, not hate.

@Donkey Kong Fan he isn’t insulting Nintendo or Nintendo fans his points are valid. I love Nintendo but they’ve been treating they’re diehard fans like trash for years and and too many of us let it slide because  “Nintendo can’t do wrong”.Nintendo isn’t your friend it’s a company and we need to see them that way

@Donkey Kong Fan he isn’t insulting Nintendo or Nintendo fans his points are valid. I love Nintendo but they’ve been treating they’re diehard fans like trash for years and and too many of us let it slide because  “Nintendo can’t do wrong”.Nintendo isn’t your friend it’s a company and we need to see them that way

@buttbutt12 I’m not gonna be fooled by that clearly disingenuous statement. He only said that as a quick save so that he could say insulting things towards Nintendo and the fans for 99% of the video. There’s a reason he only said that in the end and absolutely nowhere else. It’s nothing more than a quick shield for his blatant over-generalizations and over-exaggerations.

@Donkey Kong Fan he literally says “I’m not asking you to hate Nintendo or the fans” at the end of the video.

@Donkey Kong Fan he literally says “I’m not asking you to hate Nintendo or the fans” at the end of the video.

If I were to be completely honest with you the whole dislike sephoroth video thing because of melee was kinda a bad take imo. Simply put because the sephoroth video is completely unrelated to melee besides being part of the same series. If anything you'd probably just send the wrong message to the out of touch higher ups. Lol (Not a Nintendo fanboy btw) just saying

Thank you for promoting this game. More people except the Nintendo stans need to know about this mod

Thank you for promoting this game. More people except the Nintendo stans need to know about this mod

I appreciate this as someone who was involved with Project M.

I agree with pretty much everything in this video.

I also think criticizing Masahiro Sakurai for not stepping in for the community is very important. I wouldn't condone say... harassing the guy, but he definitely could have smoothed things over and helped us out. He did no such thing, sadly.

Thanks for covering PM in this video, it's one of my favorite games of all time and it felt bad for development to be suddenly halted for essentially political reasons.

Thanks for covering PM in this video, it's one of my favorite games of all time and it felt bad for development to be suddenly halted for essentially political reasons.

@Tyrese Johnson Blindly saying that the “majority” of a group of people act a certain way is the very definition of generalizing. And like I said, he’s not even a Nintendo fan, so why does he care so much about this?

@Tyrese Johnson Blindly saying that the “majority” of a group of people act a certain way is the very definition of generalizing. And like I said, he’s not even a Nintendo fan, so why does he care so much about this?

What about when Nintendo took down the SML channel

What about when Nintendo took down the SML channel

@Donkey Kong Fan
1. Emp didn't generalize all Nintendo fans, he said that the majority of Nintendo fans blatantly ignore the "mistakes" that Nintendo makes just to protect their IP.

2. This video is not a one dimensional complaint, he actively compliments Nintendo with their accomplishments, however the purpose of the video is to point out (refer back to part 1)

3. Not only is it meaningless to point out that he may not have a Switch, but he doesn't need a Switch to explain what ever other popular Switch owner has already complained about

Thank you for reading my long ass comment

@Donkey Kong Fan
1. Emp didn't generalize all Nintendo fans, he said that the majority of Nintendo fans blatantly ignore the "mistakes" that Nintendo makes just to protect their IP.

2. This video is not a one dimensional complaint, he actively compliments Nintendo with their accomplishments, however the purpose of the video is to point out (refer back to part 1)

3. Not only is it meaningless to point out that he *may not* have a Switch, but he doesn't need a Switch to explain what ever other popular Switch owner has already complained about

Thank you for reading my long ass comment

Oh no the first signs of the comment wars are appearing soilder DO NOT underestimate the situation and bring your safety gear this is not an SUGGESTION this is an ORDER

Oh no the first signs of the comment wars are appearing soilder DO NOT underestimate the situation and bring your safety gear this is not an SUGGESTION this is an ORDER

I will never go back to Nintendo. Have not spent a dime on them in 10 years.

I will never go back to Nintendo. Have not spent a dime on them in 10 years.

Nintendo needs to take a page from sega when it comes to mods. I like Nintendo but I’ll call them out when they do stupid shit. I’m looking at you another Metroid 2 remake. It’s a company that needs to get its act together.

Nintendo needs to take a page from sega when it comes to mods. I like Nintendo but I’ll call them out when they do stupid shit. I’m looking at you another Metroid 2 remake. It’s a company that needs to get its act together.

Emp, I love your videos, but this is one I just cannot get behind. Your message that I should never love Nintendo or be a fan is just abhorrent.

You can criticize Nintendo’s mistakes, but the second you start telling people they don’t have the right to be a fan of something, this video becomes nothing more than a one-dimensional hit piece. It doesn’t help that you generalize all Nintendo fans throughout the entirety of the video.

Come to think of it, you’re not even a fan of Nintendo and you don’t own a Switch from the looks of it. So why would you even care about Nintendo and how their fans are?

You’re probably just going to insult me and shamelessly screenshot my comment to post it on Twitter like you always do with critical comments like these. But I felt like this was something I needed to say.

@BlazingRoman how do we get back up? It's like we beg them to hit us again

@BlazingRoman how do we get back up? It's like we beg them to hit us again

Project M has a sort-of remake now in the form of Project+ that (to my knowledge) is being actively updated

[Just wanted to notify]

Project M has a sort-of remake now in the form of Project+ that (to my knowledge) is being actively updated

[Just wanted to notify]

Sakurai is a God that taketh and he also giveth

Sakurai is a God that taketh and he also giveth

Didn't the developer of Project M go on to make Doki Doki Literature Club? And ironically, now that game is available on the switch?

Didn't the developer of Project M go on to make Doki Doki Literature Club? And ironically, now that game is available on the switch?

Just wait emp, probably a year from now there’ll be some huge controversy with Nintendo and no one will remember that you were one of the few people to really get on their case about it like this.

Just wait emp, probably a year from now there’ll be some huge controversy with Nintendo and no one will remember that you were one of the few people to really get on their case about it like this.

They knock us down, but we always get back up.

They knock us down, but we always get back up.

I'm sure this video won't convince anybody, but at least it made me feel a bit of validation. Thank you. My best friend belongs to the Nintendo cult, though he isn't so outspoken to jump down my throat whenever I point out something like the blatant removal of features in games to be resold as 15 dollar figurines that will likely be scalped. He does, however, deny that such acts are wrong.

Great video, Hopefully this will go further down the line and make a big impact.

Great video, Hopefully this will go further down the line and make a big impact.


Insultingly ruthless for an entity so influential to attempt to destruct fangames and modding


9:50 and this is why we're all happy to dish out hundreds of dollars for our Steam libraries. Gabe and Valve understand this problem and tackle it brilliantly.


Nintendo:
Pros:
Overall consistently good games
Good consoles with a little something special (2 screen, Motion controls, Switching)
Above average employee treatment (I would assume based off of having longer than average retention rates)

Cons:
Awful online "servers"
Usually bad treatment of the fanbases/fangames (i say usually because I don't know about every scenario)


Nintendo always has to ruin the greatest things that they themselves create


I think platforms like Twitter tend to distort perspectives on how influential these die hard fans actually are on Nintendo's bottom line. At the end of the day, diehards only represent a fraction of Nintendo's cash flow. I bet a lot more of the reason Nintendo couldn't give a shit about their fans is because of how broad and casual of a market they sell their games to. The average person who picks up the new Pokemon game is probably just completely apathetic to the cause of comparatively niche eSports scenes :((

Some YouTubers think everyone and their mom lives on the internet

@SpaghettiToaster whatever makes you sleep at night i guess, guess i have to be a obsessed melee smashfan from now jeeez and i thought the whole point of this video was disliking nintendo

Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group. Diehard fans have nothing to do with how companies turn out because not only do they have no direct sway over a company’s actions, but they can just receive unnecessary bailouts after minor reduced profits. What we need is communism and the death of private industry.

@AzafuseYugi that's a horribly gross comparison right there.... because at least Nintendo isn't actively hunting vulnerable addicts and children to exploit them with unregulated gambling to completely wipe out their family's bank accounts

@Fort it's a problem but there is no other likely solution.

@Mistake 119 which is a major problem, gaming companies are barely kept in check by fan backlash as it is and Nintendo basically doesn’t even need a PR team at this point since their army of spy boys will do it for them

@Lakanus heres a counter counter point. If the fans who do pay attention to the issues and bad things nintendo does don't say anything there is a 0% chance the 99% will even notice.

Here's the thing: While thats true, theres also only a fraction of people who actually hear about Nintendo controversies. 99% of people dont give a shit but those 1%, who are most invested in and often most affected by Nintendos decisions, should normally be the ones to lead the brigade against Nintendo but they turn into drooling soyboys when Nintendo after they drop a Smash trailer.

@DrunkMasochist even if nintendo spammed the n word for five years they wouldn't go bankrupt. They are a multibillion dollar company with major pull in the WORLD stage. They could lose the entire western world and still turn a profit if they had to.

@DrunkMasochist Nice strawman. Pretty sure companies who get bad PR nowadays aren't for things like blatant racism. It's for disrespecting the consumers that allow them to operate as a business.

@Danny Caracciolo it's not the scene's fault that you have a hard time with it.

@Kásum same, also idgaf about meelee stuff either, that doesnt make me a fanboy or a cultist, i just dont care

If official Nintendo accounts started posting shit like "kill all black people" and racial slurs on twitter then that shit would spread like wildfire and kill the company, even though it originated from twitter. Yes, it is harder to manipulate a casual consumer market, but you guys are serverly underestimating bad PR. The things they do piss off casual consumers too because they're not just making mistakes but being morally offensive, which anyone can pick up. Unfortunately the online fanbase is the only thing that can inform the casual fanbase of Nintendo's atrocities, and they immediately switch from protest to rejoicing the moment Nintendo does something above mediocre, with a default stance of suppressing any criticism. So again, it's the online fanbase's fault.

This is my counterpoint to Emp's take on the fandom

@Danny Caracciolo what about the people who make fangames or emulators? it doesn't matter what you think about the fandom itself, this is about nintendo doing terrible buisness choices, a game might have the most toxic fanbase, but that doesn't mean they can be forgiven for disrespecting a man's death AND shutting down a mod wich was made with passion towards the community.

@Kásum just because fans are a only one problem, doesn't mean it's not a problem, the people Nintendo is attacking is their fans, that's like saying EA should get away with everything just because their fans are casual kids and football fans buying fifa 2048.

the guy was clearly a nintendo fan, who doesn't care about nintendo treating people like him horribly, it just proves emp's points that Nintendo's fans will forgive nintendo for anything, and i bet that one day, Nintendo will straight up make lootboxes (wich they already kinda did with that animal crossing mobile game) and people woudn't mind because "nintendo is for casuals, they don't care"

and like he said, mistreatment of competitive esports are only one problem, what about the people who make fangames or emulators?

I have both Pokémon and Smash..... and I couldn't care less about about competitive cause I've always had a negative viewpoint towards PvP in general as a horribly toxic sweatlord wasteland where at any moment you can end up on the receiving end of a shit kicking by a pro league player.

I second this completely. This video should be named "Shitting on nintendo fanboys and blaming them for the company's mediocrity while not even touching the fact that they dominate the family-casual market". The last part when somebody answered to Emp saying that they don't give a crap about the freemelee shit really explains a lot of the situation. That person wasn't a nintendo fanboy for saying that, they were one person out of the majority of consumers that are ignorant to nintendo porblems as a company. I love Emp but this video really didn't hit the mark for me.

Pokemon's games are only a fraction of the earnings of the franchise. 70% of the revenue the franchise generates is merchandise,<br>The games are just excuses to pump out merchandise.

Pokemon's games are only a fraction of the earnings of the franchise. 70% of the revenue the franchise generates is merchandise,
The games are just excuses to pump out merchandise.


I just don’t understand why game designers make less competitive/simplified versions of fighting games all around<br>No one is going to be excited cuz the game is simpler. I just dont understand lowering the skill ceiling in order to “appease” the casual audience. Truth is most casuals probably don’t care at all

I just don’t understand why game designers make less competitive/simplified versions of fighting games all around
No one is going to be excited cuz the game is simpler. I just dont understand lowering the skill ceiling in order to “appease” the casual audience. Truth is most casuals probably don’t care at all

Lucie’s Guard [8th Apostle of the Twelve]

Oh casuals DO care. It's not the game itself but the reputation. Street Fighter II is still the best selling title in the genre because that was before fighting games earned their hardcore elite difficulty reputation. To this day the FGC is trying to figure out how to make the genre more appealing to new players.


I like to rewatch this after everytime some news get to me that Nintendo made something new.


the one part in the video that really made me sad and realize how stupid nintendo is was when you mentioned that if John Carmack acted like nintendo, the gaming industry would be set back by multiple years and we wouldn't have gotten to experience multiple gaming titles that's beloved by the industry these days.

who knows what we missed out on when nintendo started their crusade against modded versions of their games and fangames. such a shame man


I wouldnt be surprised if some of the superfans are actually nintendo employees paid to promote this monopoly tolerating culture.


This video is so good.  My initial instinct was to dislike it, as I'm admittedly a recovering fanboy, but I managed to watch the whole thing.  Can't argue with any of your points here, you explained all the points so well.  Glad to see this video isn't getting ratio'd with dislikes, hopefully it gets millions of views & starts to get the thinking wheels turning for many hardened folks.

@NutterInHerButter Or just delete the app entirely.

@Saza Plus, the tweet he showed has replies on it saying the same thing.

@oh darn, it’s me he literally called himself a "recovering fanboy" meaning he isn't a fanboy anymore. He's stopped drinking the kool-aid. Sure, I hate Nintendo myself, but even I managed to read this guy's comment correctly. Next time learn to read basic English before jumping to conclusions

@BiIvaMunner It was an obvious joke, nothing to gnaw on.

It's a good video, but I think being called pathetic for simply owning a Switch is a bit much.

Good luck on your road to recovery, David.

@oh darn, it’s me you gotta stop smoking twitter my dude, it's getting to your noggin a little too much

@oh darn, it’s me  yoo did you miss your meds this week?


It’s easy to fool people when they’re already fooling themselves.


Definitely on point about everything.

Just one correction though 23:46 Sakurai wa only involved with a few Kirby games (4 or 5 of them), not the entire series.

@Boo Destroyer Without Sakurai there wouldn't be any Kirby, same goes for Miyamoto and the others. Even if he didn't work on every title the series wouldn't exist without him. Like you said he's on point about everything in this video, most of the comments I've seen attempting to correct information in this video are just nitpicking.

@_heN Miyamoto created Mario and Zelda, but he isn’t involved with those games anymore. Sakurai also doesn’t make Kirby games anymore, and only had a hand in four games in the series early on. Since Kirby Super Star Ultra, it’s been Shinya Kumazaki on them.

He created Kirby, I would say he was involved with the entire series lmao.


4 months later, we have the release of the Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack.

...Fans still have not learned, and Nintendo continues to get away with trash products.

@Saza has Nintendo done literally anything to curb the negative response? No, because they know people will still buy their shit anyway.<br>They are too big to fall. They will and have done everything to make sure they never lose support from their most hardcore fans, of which there are plenty.

@Saza has Nintendo done literally anything to curb the negative response? No, because they know people will still buy their shit anyway.
They are too big to fall. They will and have done everything to make sure they never lose support from their most hardcore fans, of which there are plenty.

Nintendo got ratioed and people will keep shitting on them about it under every post, dude you literally don’t  know what your talking about.


"Consumers had lost faith in video games because the market had become flooded with low-quality cash-grabs of bootlegs"
sees POLYBIUS

Sir...

"Consumers had lost faith in video games because the market had become flooded with low-quality cash-grabs of bootlegs"
*sees POLYBIUS*

Sir...


Always remember, kids: piracy is a victimless crime.

What about small developers that try hard to make a living of their small games? I've heard the story of how a teenager made for Ubisoft in the 80s a game that, if it wasn't for the rampant piracy, would have made it a huge selling game that would have helped solidified a career.

@PlatinumDiamond! the source code to the original donky kong arcade system that nintendo reproduced and sold illegally.

@Nighttale233 what's Ikegami Source Code?

@Ta-Nuke-I I don't think you can pirate mortality.

Nintendo wouldn't be where they are today if they didn't pirate off Ikegami source code.

Except not with indie studios, they need that money


so many languages and this man decided to speak truths


This video is on my mind again.

It's probably the most simple and straightforward deep dive into Nintendo's actions and their fans be  blinded by funny wahoos. It's kinda crazy how people are becoming more and more aware about Nintendo's outdated and out of touch standpoints and protesting, especially the 50$ DLC

The only thing I kinda don't like about this video is the last part felt way to condescending, evey time I watch it, it makes me feel like I have to abandon the Nintendo franchises/products I love as it seems to be a sign of disillusion and fanboyism towards Nintendo.

But that might be just my fractured Psyche rather than an actual craque.

@sukal I don't think they had that mentality towards your grammar, I think they meant that the mistake looked like it could've been 2 different words with the potential to affect the context.

Ah yes, "you spelled something wrong therefore I win" mentality

Of course you're an apple fan LOL

@sukal I don't think Apple is a "sake" company. you misspelled either "shake" (as in "Apple is a milkshake company") or "same" (as in "apple doesn't allow you to repair your own phone when I am not intelligent enough to repair my own phone"). Remember, grammar is important.

@Papercut sometimes my friends can be harassed by The same toxic people and I have to like ditch my promise and help them out with the defense of Nintendo. I'm not talking about the bad business practices or the DMCA drama and the other stuff. (Even though all those are true) All I'm talking about is the Iwata part and The truth that Nintendo is not actually EA Activision or Disney. I've been basically defending Nintendo ever since 2020 and sadly The hate won't stop until there's like some change and until some powerful YouTuber steps up and says we need to end this hate now. All I can do now is just watch and wait.

@Papercut I already had a chat with One of the honest Nintendo fans and they told me a good point. They chatted with me on discord private so yeah. I will admit that they do have bad business practices but they still make good games.

@Papercut yeah I've heard about that. Also I did announce on my child I would take a break from defending Nintendo (For now.....) Sometimes It's really hard for me to ignore that and I can't do that (sometimes...) Not just me. There are other honest people out there who are my friends and friends of their friends. Truthfully they're telling other people the exact same thing as I'm telling them except for the CEO death as excuse part.

@UCiPPnd4JXzhPeL36m4gflYA A highly-toxic minority is using Iwata's death, Emplemon is not one of them. Just because a toxic critic exists it doesn't mean that Emplemon is toxic!

@M64bros Seriously, you've responded at every comment that critisizes Nintendo.

@M64bros Did you really have to make more than 10 comments?

@sukal  that's my feelings and response to you......

@sukal What I mean is there's a toxic side and a respectful side. That's when I meant by divided. I still respect your opinion I really do. All we want is to just move on from all the drama and that's about it.

@sukal True... I will agree with you. I'm just one of those respectful fans who respects the developers manners. (That also loves PC and Xbox) I understand I totally understand. (I think the fan base is totally divided in my opinion.)

Dude I am trying to not be rude

You actually need to realize Nintendo is so big, some internet jackasses aren't going to make Nintendo the new Supervillian. They're are other companies who are much worse, Nintendo just has the most loyal fanbase.

@M64bros you look like someone who is looking for any excuse to make nintendo look innocent because internet trolls are trolling you and they're winning.

@Tanooki racoony studios says the person who says Apple is and underrated company.

The same company who doesn't allow you to repare your own phones  and forces you to buy a new one

@Tanooki racoony studios yeah... Like yelling at the dude who wrote a letter to Nintendo telling them about people using the CEO's death as an excuse and surprisingly Nintendo responded to me. Do I look like a YouTuber that makes clickbank videos to you?

@sukal Well I did write a letter to them telling them about people using Iwata's death As an excuse and surprisingly they responded to me. I mean I'll send you a link if you're interested. I'm just absolutely sick of people calling them a bad company. Not just me however, there's other people out there that are sick of hearing the same facts over and over and over again. All we want is to move on from all that

@M64bros maybe you should get out of Neverland and accept Nintendo is just like any other video game company.

They did loot boxes like EA in Mario Kart Tour
They oversaturate game franchise like Ubisoft in Fire Emblem
Among other examples with I am too tired to list right now.

One of YouTube mobile only features is to see how many comments you made of a specific channel, and it said you made 117 comments, and you've been doing this 3 months ago.

Why are you obsessed with a company that doesn't care about you. You're essentially defending a brick wall.

@sukal  It's just that a lot of people are talking about the same facts over and over and over again about the company. Despite the bad stuff they've done the past I still think Nintendo's a good company not the best company but a good company. And I will agree with your opinion. I'm not a massive fan of the last part. Also I'm not a big fan of the toxic fan boys as well. So I'm very sorry if I confuse you I apologize.

@sukal So I apologize sorry about that. 😔

@sukal The realistic truth basically. Sorry that I've confused I'm just absolutely sick of it This video

@M64bros Jesse, what are you talking about?

But what the video didn't actually tell you is people are legit using Iwata's death as an excuse against the online membership in a disgusting and disturbing way That's humiliating a lot of innocent people online.😡


To think how much this video could be updated now I can still remember when Weegee Plays literally burned Nintendo when Breath of the Wild came out and I remember thinking wow he really is furious at this company not only that I feel kind of offended by what he's saying, but now man I wish they were 10 times the videos like his who could burn Nintendo within 10 seconds of the beginning of their videos I love the games but man they suck as a company


Zaibatsus and their Yakuza connections, the Lost Decade and a stagnant Japanese economy making said conglomerates paranoid of losing what sustains them basically explains all of this.


ive always wondered if its possible to sue nintendo for ethical misconduct


18:57 Weird that Star vs The Forces of Evil is inculded (and yes, that show is riddeled with shipping and toxic fans), but Steven Universe is missing, since that fandom litterally insulted a cancer kid who got to watch few episodes early, and harrased one person to nearly killing themselves because they drew fanart of one fat character skinny.


The last part of this video was fucking fire.


After binging this channel for 2 days, the Grand Turismo music tastefully added to these videos is fantastic


Nintendo is so afraid of the gaming market being saturated with low quality products that they cease and desist just about any fan projects that use their IPs, yet over two years since initial reports about the issue they have done little to nothing to address Joy-Con drift...

@Hyper i totally agree with you on that, every consol had the issues, i was disagreeing witht he point that nintendo has made no effort to fix it. I have also lost a set of them to drift.

@NessKwik 3 pairs of joycons, one at launch, one in 2018, and one in 2020, all suffered from drift. It is still a problem whether the sticks have been updated or not

@British F type gr3 At least you had backup or could buy a replacement for 40 bucks

@Todd Howard I suppose the reason why my ps4 Controller's L3 button always makes the arrow or your character go up(or forward)is due to how much I and my brother played rdr2 and gta v of course now I mostly play gt sport so it's not as big of an problem

@Skasaha Nintendo not omnipotent so of course they are not aware of every fangame. The problem is how they handle fan games that they are aware of. Nintendo probably just doesn’t care about Fire Emblem enough to take down gba hacks at this point. They would much rather go after people creating fan games for one of their more profitable franchises, they don’t have unlimited resources for lawyers to send cease and desists and risk going to court for everything. My big problem is the severity in which they punish those they do go after and how that behavior stands in contrasts to virtually every other gaming company.

@Todd Howard I find your comments here hilarious in the context of the top comment in this tree saying Nintendo shuts down all fangames. Fire Emblem doesn't have a single shut-down fangame that I'm aware of.

@V Games And because it's a necessity for most local co-op, and because if you lose one the Switch becomes a 300 dollar brick. Most (not all,) people buy more because they need to, not because they want to. Of course, there are the weird ones, like whoever the endless slight variations in color are marketed to, but I'm pretty sure those are the exception.

Atleast with ps4 joy con drift happens if it gets damaged during shipping or heavy usage

@Antimatter30 agree, the last decade of mario games have been hot garbage.

@ the Wii was nintendos last sucsess,that was over decade ago

@Antimatter30 “From 4 Copy Paste Mario Games” is this about the New Super Mario Bros names?

@ Nintendo pretty much has an iron grip over intelligent systems. Pokemon and Fire Emblem suffer from horrible deadline issues, its pretty obvious in the newer games with all their poor balancing issues, poor performance, and large amount of cut content. Nintendo fired the guy who came up with fire emblem after the 5th game in the series was made and when he tried to pretty much make fire emblem for the playstation once they locked him out of his own IP they copywriter the game into oblivion and he hasn’t really made a game since( he may have worked on an indie project at some point but I don’t remember). Imagine how much better pokemon and fire emblem could be if they had a better corporate manager who gave them more time and freedom to make their games. And they would probably look and play better.

@Todd Howard For your latest comment, I agree. Zelda should have been farther in its graphical evolution now than what it is currently. It's crazy to think the Zelda OOT and GTA 1 more or less released in the same time frame yet GTA has seen much more graphical progress. Zelda OOT was a revolutionary game for the time and broke boundaries, and then GTA 1 was just a generic 2D top down shooter, but Rockstar went to extreme efforts to perfect this formula. It'd definitely be interesting to see what Rockstar would do with the Zelda IP. Even if Nintendo released more powerful consoles though, I still think I'd be reluctant to buying it. There are so many other bad corporate decisions they make beyond console power that make them a very undesirable platform to game on. Online, hardware issues that don't get fixed, the way they treat fans with fangames, no mod support, expensive ports that don't drop in price, etc.

@Todd Howard Also I want to mention I'm not a Fire Emblem fan but I'm pretty sure the developer of those games is Intelligent Systems and not Nintendo after seeing your previous comment.

@ I would definitely argue they hold back a lot of their IP’s by putting it on severely underpowered systems compared to its competitors. Also they could improve the switches power in several ways but they give us stuff like the Oled switch which at this point from a technical perspective, is an embarrassing upgrade. Especially when valve stole its lunch with a portable PS4 level handheld computer. I don’t think portability is a problem, Nintendos laziness and refusal to buy even a little bit into trying out a more powerful system is what holds them back in the console department for me.

I think the problem is Nintendo has seen too much success with the Switch. Normally (though not always) they're tolerable when they have moderate levels of console success. But when they're the market leader, its just an absolute travesty. This why I ain't surprised that PlayStation and Xbox took over Nintendo's initial stronghold in the home console market. Since the SNES, Nintendo have never truly led home consoles. It's never been the same since.

@Antimatter30 As a fire emblem fan Nintendo has given up. They pushed out crap like fats but it sold well because they actually marketed it so they focused on it even more. Luckily the fans pointed out they hated it and they went barely on track for the next game which was a remake, a very good remake all things considered but it could’ve been much better, and then for the first main console release in a decade they gave us a half baked game in Three Houses. The game is not bad, in fact it has a lot of great stuff in it. But Nintendo cant write a story to save their life so the gameplay remains intact during its development but the story gets torn to shreds and barely makes sense even when you complete all routes.

Except Nintendo themselves are making low quality products( the fucking irony). From 4 copy and paste Mario game, to overpriced Wii U ports, a remaster of a decade old game that locks a qol feature behind a 13 dollar toy that will get scalped, and a shitty online service. Nintendo no longer has any right to talk about protecting the game industry

I am no nintendo stan but you do realize they changed the entire joycon stick mechanism in order to fix drift right? Have you opened up a controller?

Joycon drift is fake though! Nintendo said so themselves!!

and how someone compared nintendo to chipotle (with that whole e-coli thing a while back)
where nintendo doesnt fix the joy-con drift issue, but tells the public to just send it in for a fix.
and if it was chipotle it would have been like chipotle selling e-coli laced food, paying for the medical bills, but still serving the e-coli laced food.


copyright, trademarks, intellectual "property" its all a spook and shouldn't be treated seriously. If a company or individual whines and crys about "muh ideas muh intellectual property" they should be laughed at and resisted


Nintendo needs to be held accountable. Recent releases and announcements prove more than ever before that they can release anything and make BANK.

@SylograYT did you see the new Mario mart tracks? It’s all basic jpg textures 🥴

they could release a game thats nothing more than a jpg of mario and fans will still eat it up because mario is on it


Nintendo should just change their mascot to Wario because that's what they represent nowadays, especially after the NSO Expansion Pack fiasco.


As I always say, Nintendo is a terrible company with great developers

@Trouble in large numbers "In fact, I'd say that this great delusion is probably one of the greatest problems of our time." i super agree.

"Nintendo is a terrible company with great developers" so like most other companys then.

@TheNinjaCrash When was the last time that EA went out of their way to go after fan projects, emulation and their own competitive community?

No, business-wise, Nintendo is the worst. Its just that they pump out so much good shit that people tend to ignore how awful they are. It's no different than Disney.

No offense but I've seen this fucking sentiment a billion times idk man at a certain point it kinda sounds like excuses

@Rootbourne I'm with you through all of this except feeling guilty about playing a game. We live in a world where cruelty free has to be added to a package and then only describes treatment of the animals and not the workers, if I took time to feel guilty about everything I use that's based on nearly criminal actions I wouldn't have time to feel anything else. I do wish Nintendo didn't suck as a company though. Their PR is and has always been horrible

@Trikki Clips Sakurai has made two of the most profitable video games for Nintendo, but he has no say and is just a lowly developer? The man isn't uploading the video himself but he's apart of everything behind the scenes and has stood by while Nintendo has ruined a lot of fan projects, esports,etc.

@Stinkyremy it's silly to think it "ruins their image" imo. Other than when more straight laced or prudish folk happen to come across examples of rule 34, not many are stupid enough to think ill of Nintendo because of pornographic artwork someone not affiliated or associated with Nintendo has drawn. There's a particular kind of nefarious and malicious agenda behind attempting to spread this kind of narrative, as if it's a natural conclusion that anyone/everyone should arrive at... and that's only speaking on specifically pornographic fan content.

Aside from that, generalizing about all fan created content by only examining the portion of it you deem to be distasteful is at least disingenuous if not entirely absurd. This shouldn't need to be said, but there are plenty of fan created projects or works that do not include any pornographic material whatsoever.

Ultimately, any/all fan created content affects Nintendo's bottom line very little, if at all. Their own arguments (there are court documents you can examine) for why they feel they are justified in how aggressively they defend their IPs do not hold up under scrutiny, as they seem to believe that fighting against (rather than embracing) this era of content creation serves to benefit them more than it hurts them. It can easily be argued it does them more harm than good when they'd stand to benefit so much more by leaning in to/collaborating with many of these developers/artists/authors... or at the very least, their current litigious behavior results in them coming out financially unscathed but inevitably fosters an environment of hostility surrounding fans sharing any Nintendo related content in any way, shape, or form.

One of the things protecting this type of draconian behavior are copyright laws that arguably are not nearly as fleshed-out as they should be in order for them to accurately and intricately address the issues and concerns of this new era of connectivity and accessibility we are entering in to. Nintendo takes advantage of this and the fact that they have access to more money and influence than most people on this planet do. It becomes difficult to fight against them regardless of whether or not you'd have a case to be made in your defense.

TLDR
I think, in general, you'll gain a healthier perspective on this matter by reading and understanding the replies to your comment, as well as by watching videos similar to this one that EmpLemon has uploaded.

@Stinkyremy it's silly to think it "ruins their image" imo. Other than when more straight laced or prudish folk happen to come across examples of rule 34, not many are stupid enough to think ill of Nintendo because of pornographic artwork someone not affiliated or associated with Nintendo has drawn. There's a particular kind of nefarious and malicious agenda behind attempting to spread this kind of narrative, as if it's a natural conclusion that anyone/everyone *should* arrive at... and that's only speaking on specifically pornographic fan content.

Aside from that, generalizing about all fan created content by only examining the portion of it you deem to be distasteful is at least disingenuous if not entirely absurd. This shouldn't need to be said, but there are plenty of fan created projects or works that do not include any pornographic material whatsoever.

Ultimately, any/all fan created content affects Nintendo's bottom line very little, if at all. Their own arguments (there are court documents you can examine) for why they feel they are justified in how aggressively they defend their IPs do not hold up under scrutiny, as they seem to believe that fighting against (rather than embracing) this era of content creation serves to benefit them more than it hurts them. It can easily be argued it does them more harm than good when they'd stand to benefit so much more by leaning in to/collaborating with many of these developers/artists/authors... or at the very least, their current litigious behavior results in them coming out financially unscathed but inevitably fosters an environment of hostility surrounding fans sharing *any* Nintendo related content in *any* way, shape, or form.

One of the things protecting this type of draconian behavior are copyright laws that arguably are not nearly as fleshed-out as they should be in order for them to accurately and intricately address the issues and concerns of this new era of connectivity and accessibility we are entering in to. Nintendo takes advantage of this and the fact that they have access to more money and influence than most people on this planet do. It becomes difficult to fight against them regardless of whether or not you'd have a case to be made in your defense.

TLDR
I think, in general, you'll gain a healthier perspective on this matter by reading and understanding the replies to your comment, as well as by watching videos similar to this one that EmpLemon has uploaded.

@Rootbourne Let's not use the word "worst" when other companies are releasing unregulated gambling to kids and abusing their employees...

@darkpyro786 i am pretty sure he was talking about the games.. Which.. Yeah?<br>They are pretty chill

@darkpyro786 i am pretty sure he was talking about the games.. Which.. Yeah?
They are pretty chill

@Stinkyremy that's the problem tho.. They are over protective of their pride

@Rootbourne same
Especially as someone who just recently got into video games as a whole and is getting into video games structuring and coding
They are the best at it

@Stinkyremy You're exactly the problem emplemon talks about. But I assume you didn't watch the entire video

@Stinkyremy Calling the richest company in Japan "wholesome" shows how shallow your thinking is. I just hope you obtain more knowledge through your own means, and reach your own conclusions instead of thinking through a hivemind.

@Trikki Clips And that is why they employ a legal team to take all that shit down, same with smash autists ruining the image of their IP.

@Stinkyremy that rule 34 argument makes no sense it's going to happen whether you like it or not

But hearing him talk about Sakurai like hes close to the top of the Nintendo tree kind of had me confused, he doesnt upload the videos himself

The only bad games they made in recent memory are the mario spin-offs tbh

@Rootbourne you and me both dude. I love their games, especially the games on the switch. But I really wish that they would treat their fans who make fan creations better. And it’s not just fan game creators that they go after, they have been known to go after fan comic creators and fan artist as well.

@Rootbourne I feel you dude! I have a love-hate relationship with Nintendo because of how fucking draconian they are yet their games are so damn quality!

It seriously depresses the hell out of me, I adore Nintendo games so much. Every time a new story pops up about Nintendo being the worst with taking down another fan project it kills me. I just wish I could play their amazing games guilt free.

And they're still somehow not ever remotely close to the worst. ..

This industry is fucked


Nintendo getting rid of AM2R and then they proceed to not make another Metroid game for 5 years and then getting rid of Pokémon Uranium despite the creators working harder than the actual Pokémon devs now is just so confusing.


This only emphasizes how incredibly ironic it was when Nintendo added a theme in Smash that was originally from a ROM hack of one of their games...

Well they are pretty indifferent to mother fans. It is helped by mother's creators attitude towards his games


"If you want a picture of the future, imagine [Nintendo] stamping on [their fan's faces] - forever."


I wouldn’t be surprised if YouTube demonetized this masterpiece. All my favourite YouTubers are being taken down because of their views


No matter the context I don’t get the legal debate. With Nintendo it’s “Well they have the legal right to X”

Okay, so when the laws change do these peoples morals change?


hope nintendo fans and their executives <del>-have a nice day-</del> (im evil) (i hope the opposite happens) (i hope for worse actually)

hope nintendo fans and their executives --have a nice day-- (im evil) (i hope the opposite happens) (i hope for worse actually)


The fanboys are like the monks explaining to the peasants why the natural disaster was actually a gift from god


Trimping in tf2 is a perfect example of the skill ceiling being raised by bugs. Valve encouraged its evolution with maps like degroot keep.

@French spy lol i use a laptop too except mine is from 2011 and runs with lowest settings and 30 fps. Proves how great the game is

@_Callum_ _Wallum_ man i ve got 240 hours i only stop playing cause my mom needed the laptop

Even rocket jumping itself is based on some wonky code all the way back from Quake 1.

@_Callum_ _Wallum_ i dunno, valve has always been secretive, probably ever since the HL2 leak, you could argue thats suspicious, but that still circumstantial evidence, we need some more to conclude work conditions, but there is indeed enough to justify a good level of doubt

@Jose aca true but the contracts for alot of money employees can sign when the retiring or quit is suspicious

@_Callum_ _Wallum_ i did, i forgot about the refund thing, i never use it but other people sure do, ok, i guess in some instances it has acted either maliciously or unnecessarily greedy, but i still wouldnt call it scummy

that being said i do recognize some things that do not bother me might bother other people a great deal, refunds included

and regarding their employees, nobody actually knows how things work at valve, i do not think there is enough evidence to conclusively prove their employees are treated poorly, there are worrying signs, but no conclusive evidence, and if i remember correctly, act man pointed this out

@Jose aca again you should watch act mans video on valve it brings up points on how they have nroke laws in other contries and treat the employees awfully

@_Callum_ _Wallum_ i disagree, honestly i dont see them going out of their way to be scummy

granted im one of those weirdos that dont have a problem with lootboxes, thats my opinion

@buttbutt12 so true, i just wish valve would start making some games and fix tf2

Damn why can’t Nintendo be as cool as Valve

@_Callum_ _Wallum_ donkey said it best about modern valve for the younger audience out there valve is a company that used to make video games

@Yeah Toast Shy-Guy lol yup im literally just praying st this point for an update

@Yeah Toast Shy-Guy oh you should totally watch this act man video on valve it was uploaded recently im pretty sure. Also as a tf2 player with 400 hours lol yes valve has pretty much given up on tf2

@vezonf3nrak Hell, rocket jumping itself, arguably soldier's most powerful tool was also a bug carried over from Quake and we got the Rocket Jumper.

Remember how the Tide Turner was made because people were using XBOX controllers to make all of the demoman's shields give infinite turning abilities? They see bugs, say "oh isn't that neat?", then add them into the game for everyone to enjoy.

Bro valve is good with mods and I have a lot of respect for old valve but new valve is just a giant shithole of unreliability and scummy-ness.

Don't forget about rocket jumping, in which valve encouraged it by giving soldier weapons like the rocket jumper, market gardener, and gunboats.

Hell, even the concept of the Spy was a glitch, and somehow got turned into a class of its own


Fantastic video, very interesting and informative.

I kind of think all fandoms are sometimes toxic and cringy, but I try not to let a group's reputation cloud my judgement on an individual person's character. I've made many friends and acquaintances that way.

Also, a lot of companies are doing what Nintendo does. I don't really care if a company says if they share my opinion or not. As long as they have something that I need, want, or something that is useful for a good price; it doesn't matter much to me.

@Andrew Crow I did not say I was fine with human rights violations. Just that I don't care if a brand or company agrees with my opinions or not. I was insinuating that companies dont actually support your beliefs or opinions, they just go where the money is.

A company's purpose is to provide a service or product, not validate my beliefs and opinions or pander to my ego.


Nintendo has been harassing people making Pokemon fan comics on Furaffinity. Some of my favorite artists were forced to change designs....I wonder if they go after Japanese artists who  make Pokemon doujinshi comics for conventions like Comiket.