Sometimes I want to cry thinking about what happened to AM2R. Imagine spending literal years of your life passionately creating a game of one of your favorite game properties only for the original creator of the series to tear it to shreds and litigate you into oblivion. Sometimes I fucking despise this company.

@Mementos Ngddj Shin Shaman

I recognize that name

@b8conbear Nah, it was the reason I stopped liking Nintendo. I was 13 when I bought it. Over the years, I realised the console had very few games and felt left out compared to PS4, Xbox and PC gamers. I liked Splatoon and Mario Maker, Mario Kart 8 and Smash 4 died for me after I 100% those games. Bayonetta 2 was amazing and I loved Wind Waker HD. I also played Hyrule Warriors.
But what is that, 7 games? That isn't enough. I also paid full price for them. £45 each. I feel like I got scammed. Considering I could buy the Witcher 3 on PC for less than £10
I now own a PC and have played over 50 games in my library. The Wii U could only dream of having that many good games.
£250 for a console that I played less than 10 games on was a waste of money. To make it worse, the expensive digital games I bought for the Wii U are gone forever. I just emulate them on PC now.
No longer a Nintendo fan but I do appreciate their development expertise.

@ did you like the Wii U, I certainly did

@Doomkid Facts...I bought a Switch, but it was used. Only because I am a sucker for portable gaming and there was no other option than Nintendo at the time.<br>Wii U was the last time I bought a console directly from them brand new. Never again.

@Doomkid Facts...I bought a Switch, but it was used. Only because I am a sucker for portable gaming and there was no other option than Nintendo at the time.
Wii U was the last time I bought a console directly from them brand new. Never again.

@Doomkid Good.<br>We can't just keep letting them do us this way .

@Doomkid Good.
We can't just keep letting them do us this way .

@Hanskah Imo it was made right after Nintendo DMCAD it or knew and waited while making it .Imo that game seemed to been made in less than a year

I was a hardcore Nintendo fan for 20+ years. Once I saw all the awful crap they do to fans, I haven’t given them a dime since.. buying Wii U games was the last money they ever got outta me.

And it still would have been all for nothing if it hadn't been struck down because its release would have coincided with Samus Returns, no?

AM2R was a triumph though. The game was completed and is now permenantly embedded within the internet, something not even nintendo can remove from existance. I remember playing the demo every year until it came out, marvelling at the additions and updates in each subsequent demo. The final version is incredible and far superior to nintendos "official" version.

Nintendo should of not kept metroids fans waiting for 6 to 8 years

Silver lining is that the guy eventually went onto work on the next Ori game so that's a plus.

<b>Sweats in the Newer´s Teams fine line walking every since 2009</b> seriously how has Skawo and the Band been so safe for soo long? monkaS

*Sweats in the Newer´s Teams fine line walking every since 2009* seriously how has Skawo and the Band been so safe for soo long? monkaS


Nintendo officially sponsoring a Smash circuit is amazing, but the fact that them even just sponsoring a tournament series run by somebody else (Panda Global) has gone over so well says a lot. I can understand the mindset, but wanting to get behind a company so hard you start to put every good decision they make on a pedestal never ends well.


The annoying thing about Nintendo is that despite all of this, they make amazing games.  I mean what are my options here?  I either stand up to their horrible practices and miss out on their amazing games, or get all the enjoyment and fun from their games and implicitly support their horrible practices by doing so.  It's a catch-22.


RIP dislike button and the ever-shrinking consumer bastion


Nintendo has never cared for it's customers, at least not when talking about their video games


About Project M: Dan Salvato, the developer of Doki Doki Literature Club, was one of the people who worked on PM! In fact, after THAT part of DDLC, the opening splash will occasionally be replaced, and one of the possible splashes reads, "Project M died for this."

@António Rodrigo I mean, yeah. People generally wanna be compensated for the work they do, passionate or not. You could see it as not being petty, seeing as they chose not to withold the game from Nintendo platforms. But I don't think wanting to sell a product should be seen as malicious by itself and that individual isn't comparable to a corporation like Nintendo.

It takes a lot of effort and passion to develop a game and companies love to exploit that, offering vapid job security and cut pay for grueling hours, so to see someone succeed on their own terms is refreshing.

Oh I hope that can be displayed on a switch

Man I can never escape Monika no matter where I go can I lol 😂

@António Rodrigo Every comercially sold product is made to generate proffit, we don't live in a communist society yet for money to not play a major role as unfortunate as it may be

@Wolfboy414 I think he's talking about the game not being very good.

For what it's worth I personally thought it was okay, but I felt the storyline kinda fell apart after Sayuri's suicide. It felt like most of the scares after that were more shock value rather than giving you a vague sense of unease with a growing level of dread as time went on.

@onemanarmy2 electric boogaloo the game is rated M. no sane parent is gonna buy their kid an M rated game with an anime girl on the front. 99% of them will think its nfsw or something or something, which btw, ero games are also on the eshop, so your arguement falls completely flat.

@onemanarmy2 electric boogaloo why do you think that?

@azure moon it's wrong for existing because it sucks

@António Rodrigo dan strikes me as the guy least concerned with money. between ffz, ddlc, and smash, just about everything him and the many others involved have ever done has been given out for free to the entire internet

@António Rodrigo nah DDLC 1st version was and is still free in their website, DDLC+ is the pay version which has come out only recently, is just but a joke that splash text

@Meme The Master Monarch Nintendo didn't make ddlc. DDLC is not designed for children. and what's wrong with it being on switch?

@António Rodrigo Dan salvato doesn't do stuff for the money, have u seen 20xx te and ucf and shit

@Meme The Master MonarchTrauma = Maybe a few days of trouble falling asleep lmao

@Liam McNicholas How ironic if it still includes that hidden message

Thanks Nintendo! Now you caused the traumatization of several thousand children with the suicide scene. And now on the Switch!

@Liam McNicholas Despite ALL the events, the objective of these companies or of Dan Salvato will always remain the same. money..


Holy shit this video is just strait BRIMSTONE past the ~20 minute mark. Fuckin BRAVO!
It's just too bad that, just like with everything else, nobody will be willing to change as their ego matters more than the "greater good," no matter how insignificant it is baseline.
UPDATE: And now disney/ nintendo stans are shilling how sakurai is a demigod over sora... I wonder how many years that's going to last lmao
UPDATE2: And now youtube has removed dislikes entirely HAH!


Piracy is always morally right.<br>But when its Nintendo, then its a righteous duty.

Piracy is always morally right.
But when its Nintendo, then its a righteous duty.

@Game Hero They could sell the salt from their tears for all I care.

@Naoko What do you mean, "maybe", it is very hard to make a living in the video game industry when you're not on top of the game. The indie devs have to put their games on sale, else how are people going to finance their lives?

@Voidy Small Indie Devs maybe.<br>Pirating games on sale does not matter.

@Voidy Small Indie Devs maybe.
Pirating games on sale does not matter.

pirating games still on sale is kinda nasty tho, specially indie ones with small devs


Nintendo has destroyed more things that I have liked than they have created


It angers me that people justify this pseudo-criminal behavior with the usual "It's their legal right to..." not only because they show their shallowness for the world to see, but also because they indirectly justify outright criminal behavior (like charging random programmers with million dollar fines).


>they can charge 20 bucks a year for a online service that used to be free.

YEEEEAAAHHH ABOUT THAT?

>expansion pass now charging 50 for literally the exact same service.

@squiddy ft.insecurities It's the same online service.


I love how this video feels more personal in tone as it goes along. Although I absolutely love the content this channels has been putting out recently I do still miss the days of ytps and commentary about YouTube. Still, I love every video on this channel and I’m grateful for that sense of quality I feel


Looks like the whole company war thing is a double edge sword, with SEGA you get pretty bad games but embracement of fans, with Nintendo, you get good games but your life is ruined for even making one fan tribute.


I mean, honestly, I think the reason that Nintendo gets away with so much shit is the same reason Apple does:  they very rarely make a bad product.  I mean, it has happened but it's the exception, and not the rule (for both, outside the Apple dark ages).  I don't even like Apple, I think their over-tight software control and anti right to repair and anti consumer behavior is garbage level trash bastardry, but they make good stuff, they have a fantastic eye for design, they how to make shit feel very high quality, and their ecosystem is relatively seamless across platforms.  We only have to look back to the late 80's into the 90's to see that if Apple started making garbage products, they would lose everything.  And if Nintendo started making garbage games and hardware, then their shit would not be tolerated, either.  And honestly, Nintendo's hardware has almost always tended to range from "decent" to "fuck, bro."  There's the virtual boy, sure, but even they kinda knew that one was a crapshoot.  Even the GB micro, Wii U, and that weird discount rubberized-looking Wii we're all decently well built, and I actually used the fuck out of my Wii U, their problems were more of either targeting a market that wasn't there or trying a tech that wasn't fully developed (Wii U, though that wireless video shit that thing did is still kind of nuts.  That thing had a faster response time than my admittedly-crap TV.)

My point isn't to blow Apple and Nintendo, they both have major flaws, have had some pretty atrocious behavior over the years and both of them have had a fucking bizarre mix of being way ahead of the curve on parts of their designs and embarrassingly behind the times on others (Nintendo will have a good online service when Windows does...).  My point is more that both of them would fucking implode almost overnight the first time they produce something that sucks.  A truly bad game or a bad (as in cheaply made, broken, and scummy-feeling) piece of hardware and either company nosedives hard, then they'll learn why treating their customers well matters.  Basing your entire image off of prestige is fragile, and if you break that winning streak then it will be very hard for customers to come back.  Look at Blizzard.  Hell, look at Bethesda, who's games have always been a bit shoddy, but they do extremely impressive things, but almost 10 years between a main release, over 10 years between main entries in their primary series, and an underwhelming fallout 4 and disastrous game we don't talk about  and their love from the community just fucking evaporated (I think it's overblown, but that's the general feeling in the air).  Blizzard is actually a better example.  They could do no wrong and were almost Valve-levels of prestige for decades,  but years of Blizzard treating their customers like, well, Activision does, and it only takes one fucked up remaster, devs yelling at their audience about the Diablo mobile fiasco, and a Chinese PR kerfuffle and BAM, they're held up as primary examples of corrupted AAA greed in the video game industry.  Because they didn't treat their fans well.

Fuck, I think Bethesda actually seems better by comparison to the fans, because Bethesda treats their fans and their employees relatively well, which is probably why they were forgiven for their glitchy, buggy, messes of game releases for so long.  They're kind of the model for how a game studio can really lean into treating fans well to get through bad streaks, right?  I mean, horse armor and creation club blah blah blah.  How many other game studios these days release the full devkit with their games for modders and actively design their engines to be mod friendly?  And how many game studios have not only released their older titles for free, but also allowed their communities to completely rebuild their old engines with modern tech (Daggerfall AND OpenMW, for the engine at least) without shitting bricks and suing everyone involved (looking at you, KOTOR).  And how about The Forgotten City, or Enderal?  Blizzard has a modder become super successful with DOTA, and they react by shoving language into their EULA to make it so nobody can ever be inspired by their games and be successful for it, because Blizzard just doesn't have enough money (Bethesda seems either indifferent or maybe even proud of their modding community?  And Hell, id didn't have a seizure over Team Fortress, either.). And id, too.  Almost 15 years without a great game, but they created so much good will with their communities that I don't think that they ever dipped into "hated" territory.

Bethesda has done shitty things, but the fact that they honestly got away with quite a lot for a long time I think is largely because of how they've been good at fostering a community around their games with their design decisions and a fairly light touch when it comes to controlling their IP's.

Nintendo will likely not be so lucky when they eventually start to fuck up.

I mean, honestly, I think the reason that Nintendo gets away with so much shit is the same reason Apple does:  they very rarely make a bad product.  I mean, it _has_ happened but it's the exception, and not the rule (for both, outside the Apple dark ages).  I don't even _like_ Apple, I think their over-tight software control and anti right to repair and anti consumer behavior is garbage level trash bastardry, but they make good stuff, they have a fantastic eye for design, they how to make shit feel very high quality, and their ecosystem is relatively seamless across platforms.  We only have to look back to the late 80's into the 90's to see that if Apple started making garbage products, they would lose everything.  And if Nintendo started making garbage games and hardware, then their shit would not be tolerated, either.  And honestly, Nintendo's hardware has almost always tended to range from "decent" to "fuck, bro."  There's the virtual boy, sure, but even they kinda knew that one was a crapshoot.  Even the GB micro, Wii U, and that weird discount rubberized-looking Wii we're all decently well built, and I actually used the fuck out of my Wii U, their problems were more of either targeting a market that wasn't there or trying a tech that wasn't fully developed (Wii U, though that wireless video shit that thing did is still kind of nuts.  That thing had a faster response time than my admittedly-crap TV.)

My point isn't to blow Apple and Nintendo, they both have major flaws, have had some pretty atrocious behavior over the years and both of them have had a fucking bizarre mix of being way ahead of the curve on parts of their designs and embarrassingly behind the times on others (Nintendo will have a good online service when _Windows_ does...).  My point is more that both of them would fucking implode almost overnight the first time they produce something that sucks.  A _truly_ bad game or a bad (as in cheaply made, broken, and scummy-feeling) piece of hardware and either company nosedives hard, then they'll learn why treating their customers well _matters._  Basing your entire image off of prestige is fragile, and if you break that winning streak then it will be very hard for customers to come back.  Look at Blizzard.  Hell, look at Bethesda, who's games have always been a bit shoddy, but they do extremely impressive things, but almost 10 years between a main release, over 10 years between main entries in their primary series, and an underwhelming fallout 4 and disastrous game we don't talk about  and their love from the community just fucking evaporated (I think it's overblown, but that's the general feeling in the air).  Blizzard is actually a better example.  They could do no wrong and were almost Valve-levels of prestige for decades,  but years of Blizzard treating their customers like, well, Activision does, and it only takes one fucked up remaster, devs yelling at their audience about the Diablo mobile fiasco, and a Chinese PR kerfuffle and BAM, they're held up as primary examples of corrupted AAA greed in the video game industry.  Because they didn't treat their fans well.

Fuck, I think Bethesda actually seems better by comparison to the fans, because Bethesda treats their fans and their employees relatively well, which is probably why they were forgiven for their glitchy, buggy, messes of game releases for so long.  They're kind of the model for how a game studio can really lean into treating fans well to get through bad streaks, right?  I mean, horse armor and creation club blah blah blah.  How many other game studios these days release the full devkit with their games for modders and actively design their engines to be mod friendly?  And how many game studios have not only released their older titles for free, but also allowed their communities to completely rebuild their old engines with modern tech (Daggerfall AND OpenMW, for the engine at least) without shitting bricks and suing _everyone_ involved (looking at you, KOTOR).  And how about The Forgotten City, or Enderal?  Blizzard has a modder become super successful with DOTA, and they react by shoving language into their EULA to make it so nobody can ever be inspired by their games and be successful for it, because Blizzard just doesn't have enough money (Bethesda seems either indifferent or maybe even proud of their modding community?  And Hell, id didn't have a seizure over Team Fortress, either.). And id, too.  Almost 15 years without a great game, but they created so much good will with their communities that I don't think that they ever dipped into "hated" territory.

Bethesda has done shitty things, but the fact that they honestly got away with quite a lot for a long time I think is largely because of how they've been good at fostering a community around their games with their design decisions and a fairly light touch when it comes to controlling their IP's.

Nintendo will likely not be so lucky when they eventually start to fuck up.


I legitimately had someone tell me it was terrible that I emulate games because I need to support the developers. What an unbelievably asinine concept it is to think that downloading a file from the Internet is taking the food off the plate of a major shareholder of a company that has so much money it doesn't know what to do with it.

This is a very tricky subject.  Will Nintendo as a company die if you pirate Pokemon?  No.  But Nintendo is not always the developer of the game.  Sometimes they're just a publisher or distributor.  Like when they distributed the Dragon Quest games for SquareEnix.  Then SquareEnix turned around and blamed 'poor sales' for why they wouldn't release more Dragon Quest games in the west.  Then if you have even smaller games made by a small company like Vanillaware or Edelweiss.  They make the game, but Marvelous publishes them.  Will Marvelous die if you pirate this very niche game?  No.  But the company who actually made it could.  And people tend to pirate these lesser games more to 'try them out'.  Yet they rush out to buy the latest Pokemon or Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed on day one, without ever pirating it first, based on the name brand and hype.

But this has to do with games that are currently out.  I for one am not against emulation.  Heck, I often have to turn to it when the parent company won't release said game to my market (again, see Dragon Quest).  But when the company actually does release it, I do show my support by buying it.  Especially if it's a small to medium game.  It's not about 'taking food off their plate' but me wanting small developers to continue to make more games.  Especially in the current market where AAA bloat is the biggest problem we have (after bad localizations).

@Arthur Pietro Garcia this is really not worth arguing for so lets respectfully stop this argument right here right now Artbur

@Arthur Pietro Garcia imagine if that precius thing was like multiplied 100 thousand times and you take one of it while everyone buys it making the guy a billionaire.

@cinema lazare Its like stealing a really precious thing of somebody and they don't notice, sure they did not notice but you still did a bad thing.

@cinema lazare So what if they are rich? Its like killing a guy and saying:"nah he hated his life anyway."

@Arthur Pietro Garcia first of all pirating a switch game is incredibly difficult. second, youre wrong. nintendo has so much money that they dont even know what to do with it

Well it depends, if it is a old game like from the n64 you're right, if it is a switch new game you are the guily one.

@Fine Line Guy above you is a perfect example

@Bob Snob Copying roms is like right-clicking an NFT. Nobody is being hurt apart from the crybaby that thinks "intellectual property" exists.

@Bob Snob taking a digital item from an individual or business is still stealing.

@Andy Blanton Stealing is when you take a physical item from a individual or business. Piracy and emulation creates an unlicensed copy of the software. A copy that has no effect on the company that licences that software. It's literally a victimless crime

@_ frootshoot
>take over the bankrupt company
>delete all the downloads
>get rich

>download 50 dollar game on the internet
>SOMEHOW take 50 dollars away from this billion dollar company by doing so
>redownload game several hundred million times
>company goes bankrupt
>win

@Andy Blanton That's like saying it's stealing to take a picture of the Mona Lisa.

i generally try pay for indie games but pirate most of the time for the bigger companies that can rip me off shit for stuff i wont play once for the remaining year

Based is just the opposite of cringe, assuming you know what cringe is.

Based is like, cool and epic and good. A compliment. Cringe is like bad and unfunny, you probably know :)

@MR. CLAW! I can't tell if you're making a joke or legitimately don't know what based means

@Andy Blanton becuz it based. anyways how else did they get successful? steal from others.

@Isaiah Simmons how do they steal me and themselves? I don't follow.

It isn't taking food from their table, but it's still stealing.

Just copied and pirated Doom. Id Software are crying.

Especially if:

A: The series or company is defunct

Or B: The property is so old that it has no material commercial viability.


What fans should undesrtand in my opinion is the factg you can love Nintendo products, but when Nintendo do something wrong you need at least admited that they are making mistakes and stop defending them when they do something nasty like boycotting tournaments, destroy emulators and try to destroy fans projects


It’s weird how companies like Activision and EA always get the ire about shady business and anti-consumer practices when Nintendo has been doing that shit a lot longer than they have.

@Inferior_Aim This may be true, in our opinions. Millions of people would disagree though lol.

probably because Activision and EA release shit games unlike nintendo

It's because they're worse. Warcraft 3 reforged is worse than Nintendo shutting down fangames. The EULA practically states that any mods exclusively belong to Activision Blizzard (Because they don't want to miss out on the next DOTA)

EA releases shit games with the most predatory mictotransactions in the business.

Mainly because Nintendo's products are unique enough that the loyal fanbase has developed stockholm syndrome, and will keep supporting the company no matter what their mouth says.

It's weird but it sort of makes sense, companies like EA churn out shit products or shovelware with enough regularity that they attract very broad criticism whereas Nintendo has had enough in-built fanboys from decades of putting out good-to-decent products and well-remembered work that they can coast on customer goodwill.


As much as I love Nintendo, they make many horrible decisions, especially towards the community. It baffles me how GilvaSunner got thousands of Nintendo ost's got striked, when Nintendo is not even gaining or losing anything, and Nintendo doesn't even put their ost's on anything. Just because Nintendo can do something doesn't mean they have to. They're stuck in the past and somehow are able to make the same stupid mistakes time and time again.

@thanos asparagus monkey condom gamimg Same here. His other channel silvagunner is still alive at least. Also some people re-upload his music and surprisingly Nintendo themselves can't take down the reuploads. I'm still looking for more information and figuring some stuff out about it.

Agreed.<br>Gilvasunner striking down was downright terrible,and i Will never forgive Nintendo for that

Agreed.
Gilvasunner striking down was downright terrible,and i Will never forgive Nintendo for that

It wasn't Nintendo It was someone impersonating Nintendo. Hell the last thing I don't want to see any more see people use Iwata's death as a weapon against Nintendo in a disgusting and disturbing way that Disturbed a lot of innocent people online


This is something that has needed to be said for years now. I love Nintendo games, and lost out on who knows how many one night stands because I sacrificed many college weekends to go to smash tournaments, thank you for making a stand and holding their feet to the fire! WAKE UP PEOPLE🙏🏽


Even as a Nintendo fan myself, videos like these are really needed these days. It does make me hope that maybe someday, things might change for the better.

Nintendo are basically just like Disney. They have our childhoods by the balls and they know that they have countless fans who won't care about they rotten business practices they do.

It’s about separating the art from the artist.

@EmblemBlade9 It's way better than doing fucking nothing. While I believe that just always complaining about something that you have problems with is usually ineffective and which is why I don't practice it, it's important to give honest feedback and actually tell them about your disagreements instead of chewing up anything that gets put up on the table

@Surprised Lobsta yea, like how freemelee disappeared once seph got revealed.

Don't just hope for something to happen, you have the power to make something happen

@The TBH Resistance they sound like they already are

The only one that has a chance to change Nintendo is you, stand up, and step out of Neverland.

But don't pander and make something near a concentration camp like Disney.


this is my new favorite youtube video of all time. despite the fact that i've been saying a lot of this for years, there are things even i didn't know nintendo did, and you made me realize i was even participating in part of this cultish realization much closer to the present than i thought i was. in addition, i am no longer nearly as okay with sakurai upon finally realizing he absolutely could have made some statement regarding project m or freemelee, but chose not to even allude to it. amazing work. this is seriously the best info piece on the company and it doesn't even need the 30 minute mark


I re watched some of your old videos for fun, this is the most visibly heated and energetic you have ever been after putting out video essays of this nature. More power to you, as this is a personal favorite of mine because of it.


Don't forget how they've ruined Paper Mario!!


competitive stuff wasn't removed from smash to "appease casual players". they may have claimed that, but that wasn't the reason.
Japan has a very deontic view of the world in general. the issue was not that competitive players were overshadowing the casual ones. the issue was that the competitive players existed *at all*.
while it may be kinda hard to grok from a western perspective, many Japanese creatives, especially from previous generations, see "misusing" their creations as offensive. you are supposed to play "correctly".

this attitude is fading in the east do to western influence, but Nintendo is still very much an example of a group of people who think they only valud way to play in their sandbox is by their rules, and they believe that sticking to these rules is the reason they are successful.


Emulation doesn't hurt Nintendo

But I really wish it did

@yellow honestly I don't blame ya one bit

@tomasg851 We are never getting our game released :(

@tomasg851 oh shit i didnt notice that yea that explains a lot

@Voidy if it isnt funny im taking it seriously

@jknifgijdfui holy shit dude it's a joke--

this comment hits different<br>it's too right

this comment hits different
it's too right

Sold my switch during the 2020 covid pandemic shortage, I basically made a profit selling a used nintendo switch to someone that was too desperate to wait a month or two to play the new animal crossing.

@Ozzymandiarse That sounds like a waste of resources. But I do agree that something needs to be done about Nintendo

@Ashton Robaschi i said boston tea party as i thought it would be funny. throw crates of switches off a boat like they did with the tea seemed like a funny comparison and I need likes for my dopamine receptors to trigger correctly and humour is normally a method that works.

It can't hurt them,<br>We couldn't buy old games if we wanted to

It can't hurt them,
We couldn't buy old games if we wanted to

11/10 quote

don't mind if I yoink it for an essay in the future do you~

destroy the company within. on jon's comment, i doubt that would work. nintendo wastes ton of materials as it is anyways, like rest of japan, so i'll doubt they panicked and drop cash because of it. they'll just continue to make more. the company shouldnt in my opinion even drop sales, but instead be nonexistent. it shouldnt even exist, it's the exact problem with mankind.

@I am Rock time to make a Cod4 reference

@Ozzymandiarse fuckin Boston tea party part 2

@Ozzymandiarse The Nintendo Tea (Switch) Party

@pipebombmailer1978 Reggie is long gone.

@*not a real spy* hold them at gun point until they tell who their boss is

Boycott the switches then stash em away<br>Hold em hostage and you get more milage

Boycott the switches then stash em away
Hold em hostage and you get more milage

You know what would hurt them? Destroying switches before they make it to the store. Y'know, making the cargo container "accidentally" fall off the boat or something


i enjoy watching your videos and this one was no different. i dont exactly have much to say that hasn't been said already by other people, but man. it sure is a sad to see the shit nintendo pulls.


25:55 bro I felt that I bought a switch a few months after it came out and within a week the motion controls on my right joycon stopped working and the joystick drags in one direction perpetually. I never dropped or damaged it in any way and here in Canada a new pair of joycons are $99.99. Felt like I had been robbed for $100


i've never been a super avid nintendo consumer, but for stuff like this, i'm just shocked. how could it be so difficult for a company not to micromanage every aspect of their property in the hands of their fans? it costs more money to ruin people's fun, livelihoods and <i>lives</i> than it does to literally just get free advertising and let people just love your products.

i've never been a super avid nintendo consumer, but for stuff like this, i'm just shocked. how could it be so difficult for a company not to micromanage every aspect of their property in the hands of their fans? it costs more money to ruin people's fun, livelihoods and _lives_ than it does to literally just get free advertising and let people just love your products.


It honestly sucks how Nintendo has gotten so pushy and aggressive as time went on
And have some of the most aggressive reactions to stuff like Uploaded music on Youtube, fangames, and modders
It really shows a clear difference between Devs of a Game, and the people in charge of the company
Many of the developers at nintendo are great and have made amazing games
But it feels they can be overshadowed with how aggressive some of the Suits are
Makes me miss Iwata even more...


Nintendo's always had monopolistic tendencies like this. There was that time in the late 80s where Nintendo had 92% of the market and forced crushing regulations on license holders and third party developers. There was that time when they relentlessly sued and bullied Blockbuster video for allowing game rentals so they could make more money. There were the many times they coerced Tengen out of the market by refusing to supply any store with Nintendo products if they carried Tengen games. Let's also not forget the time Nintendo, for almost an entire decade, also hindered developers from publishing <b>their own games that they made</b> on NES for other systems by strictly enforcing mandatory waiting periods. This essentially allowed Nintendo to shove around other companies and to tell developers who they could or could not speak to.

Nintendo's always had monopolistic tendencies like this. There was that time in the late 80s where Nintendo had 92% of the market and forced crushing regulations on license holders and third party developers. There was that time when they relentlessly sued and bullied Blockbuster video for allowing game rentals so they could make more money. There were the many times they coerced Tengen out of the market by refusing to supply any store with Nintendo products if they carried Tengen games. Let's also not forget the time Nintendo, for almost an entire decade, also hindered developers from publishing *their own games that they made* on NES for other systems by strictly enforcing mandatory waiting periods. This essentially allowed Nintendo to shove around other companies and to tell developers who they could or could not speak to.

I remember seeing this one iceberg about sonic adventure 2 and on final sega's game it claims that apparently sega was in debt and at the time nintendo and sony were actually considering to purchase sega. i dont know if this is true tho.

@V Games well for starters the lovers lab has sims modding as well as F95zone. Some of the sims lovers lab mods have their own web page.

@TricksterCJ "here are modding websites dedicated to lewding the sims" hmm, where can i find these websites? 100% asking for s friend lol.

@GodZpeed X7II Do you get fat from all of this consooming?

@GodZpeed X7II And here we witness the fanboy in his natural habitat

@GodZpeed X7II nintendo isn’t your friend, it’s time to grow up

@Regulator2000  The fact that EA is nearing Bethesda levels where there are modding websites dedicated to lewding the sims kind of shows off how they are somehow less of an asshole then Nintendo is.

@GodZpeed X7 dude, Step out of Neverland! Nntendo and all video game publishers are corporation not your friend, console wars never mattered for you to be insisting that a corporate think-tank that's no different than a corporate think-tank is better. Something abstract as your identity shouldn't be defined by something superficial as brands which is the biggest offender to ever define yourself by.

@GodZpeed X7II you went fanboy on us billy

@GodZpeed X7II well there was a moment where the genesis pasted the snes in sales. Then sega starting doing the cd and all that

@Neogears Nintendo is not worse. Sony,Microsoft, Sega and EA are way worse

@Neogears Nintendo isn’t the job nor are they are the Yakuza. Also people don’t pretend Nintendo isn’t bad because they know they aren’t

@Neogears No they aren’t rigging a system and they aren’t screwing you out of your money. Stop with the brainwashing

@doxskew Even though the Snes beaten the genesis so no

@SuperLlama42 No those companies don’t answer for their shit

@SuperLlama42 Nintendo is NOT one of the worst video game companies out there. Microsoft and Sony can give Nintendo a run for its money

They didn’t bully blockbuster dude and they didn’t coerced Tengen out of the market. Tengen was created by Atari, the same company that started the video game crash of 83

@SuperLlama42 no. No that’s more heinous. I need you and everyone for all that is holy to recognize this is far worse. They’re not just scammers or con artists; they are literally rigging a system to fuck you out of your money forever. If EA are thieves, Nintendo’s the mob...or the Yakuza more appropriately. The only reason people will still pretend Nintendo’s not as bad is EA doesn’t elicit nostalgia with their ips. Nintendo is way worse.

Considering how they acted like this. Im honestly surprised we saw the sega genesis have a chance at breathing.

In my opinion Nintendo is one of the worst video game companies out there. They may not have done things nearly as heinous as EA and the like, but those companies at least have to answer for their shit on a regular basis and be constantly kept on the backfoot, while Nintendo's just like "Yeah? So what? You'll buy our shit anyway."


Emplemon is correct on everything. Change my mind.


I've always held Nintendo close to my heart, as an NES was the first console I played, but this video is very much true.  I've always blamed it on Japan's own crazy copyright laws but I'm not so sure that is it either.  For me, I never became a Nintendo diehard at the same time Apple and its Steve Jobs lead fandom was at its peak simply because I was a broke 20 year old who resorted to other sources of gaming entertainment and I've never gone back since.  So I missed out on the Wii, WiiU, 3DS, and the Switch.  My last console from Nintendo was a DS which sadly was broken way back in 2012.


Nintendo went from the cool friend that lets you have fun unlimitedly to Scrooge who just takes away all the fun and sucks up your bank accounts.


Another stellar video mate 💜 Love some of their games and it was a part of my childhood and escapism like many others as you pointed out Emp.. But man I couldn't agree more with many of their business/advert actions being so backwards and downright awful.


As a Nintendo fan, I completely agree. I remembered the Etika Joycons, but I honestly thought that it happened way earlier than it actually did. You are completely right Sephiroth made me completely forget the timeline of events. Nintendo’s practices are absolutely dog shit and we all know it. But no one wants to do anything. Well it’s time to do something.

@eric Spencer what if I never paid for a Nontendo game

@Lore I'm not sure what you're gunning at here. It seems that your argument is that because Nintendo puts out corporate surveys it means they actually listen. What you fail to comprehend is that those questions, of which you even admitted to be incentivized with rewards, are for the company's benefit alone. These questions are designed to increase their profits. It's what you might call selective listening.

Just as EmpLemon conveyed, Nintendo has no intention on actually confronting their errors, but instead dangle shiny new goodies to evade consumer wrath. Let me be clear, I have nothing against speaking out against Nintendo's malpractice. The point I was making before is that they are not willing to have a dialogue on this matter. For you to expect any less of them is a tremendous misplacement of goodwill.

Instead of writing to Nintendo, how about writing Santa Claus instead. Because either way your letters are going to the same place: straight into the garbage.

@icecontrol1
Proof please?
Like maybe some links to something that proves it?

The video is misrepresented the Etikons issue, framing it as if Nintendo was at fault when it was that the way the seller was using Etika name (without his family permission) to promote his store

Or that the Etikons were only one of the shells that Nintendo asked to stop selling as the guy was also profiting from Pokemon and Wii Fit merchandise and that he could still sell them as long as he removed the word "Joycon" and the logo

In this case Nintendo were in the right

See? Most Nintendo fans aren’t blind! Toxic fandoms aren’t real, it’s only a vocal minority.

STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS, STOP BUYING THEIR ONLINE

There's something you can do about the bullshit lately. Play old games, pirate their shit, and if you really want to play their games then buy their shit used.

I have zero sympathy for any of you if you don't step forward and start speaking with the cash you spend.

@GodZpeed X7 can you just not suppress other people’s opinions for once?

@Digital Unity if nations can win trophy of the highest caliber (in their continent) when they are in civil war, right after a dictatorship might I add, then we can put reality right through their heads, if not, then the only option is getting rid of them. (these Nintendo worshippers were useless anyway)

@Caleb Productions just go to playstation or xbox (playstation for quality and xbox for games for free)

@GodZpeed X7 you see that username on this reply?
That is a man who worships Nintendo more than his god.
Send him back down to reality.

@AzafuseYugi here's the problem, they have the biggest security for pirated games, if there's even a hint that you pirated their games, they'll treat you as if you're wanted dead or alive.

But what can one man do against a hoard? We tired to topple the giant with Sword and Shield, but people still bought an abysmal game from a trash company who no longer cares for their players... The war is lost, friend, and it hasn't even begun

Or the best thing to do is just to give up on video games because let’s face it, gaming is really dead at this point.

@AzafuseYugi I can't pirate switch games. Way too fucking difficult if it even is possible

@Lucas Loveland that's what I thought, Emp is saying to speak out but Nintendo never listens and never has

As much as I love my boy sephiroth I feel like they did etika Dirty

@Lore It's amusing that after watching this video you'd even consider Nintendo might listen to their peon consumers. The fanbase as a whole is so non-combative that a few dissenting comments end up like dust in the wind. Nintendo  isn't ignorant to their business tactics. They know well they have their leading supporters by the balls. Unless the fans come to acknowledge and reject Nintendo's domineering and dismissive behavior, we stand no chance at putting the company in check. Until then, however, continue shouting into the abyss. No one will answer to your plight.

For me Nintendo is dead to me until a new Starfox or F-Zero is released.  But we all know that shit ain't happening.

Chick-Fil-A's CEO said he hates gays.  But after that came out Chick-Fil-A's profits actually went up.  Sell a product people want and no one really cares what you do.

Give them feedback by calling them, people just point the problem and just tell people not buy stuff… that doesnt give enough feedback, calling them gives more feedback than anything. I honestly get tired because of how people dont know what to do… literally look at their website, find their number and CALL THEM AND TELL THEM

yeah the best we can do is just don't buy their products. and pirate them instead


I recommend a fantastic book on the war between sega and Nintendo back in the day it’s called “The Console Wars” it’s fantastically written and researched. It’s mainly the point of view from the CEO of the wearer branch of Nintendo during the console wars between them. You might even be able to write a video on the subject considering how interesting the topic is.


companies that see talented and passionate fans inspired by their work to make amazing mods and fan games and ruin everything for them with dumb legal bullshit absolutely fucking disgust me


remember hit title sonic mania, which was critically acclaimed, widely popular and served to "re-kickstart" the entire sonic series again? <br>Sega got some previously independent modders and got them to make the game.

remember hit title sonic mania, which was critically acclaimed, widely popular and served to "re-kickstart" the entire sonic series again?
Sega got some previously independent modders and got them to make the game.

@Smokey Mcb pretty good game gotta tell ya

I've never heard of that game until now.


Please make more video game vids!! You speak the truth and we need you!! You're right it's insane how so many people have become consumer zombies worshipping their corporate pigs like slaves and they attack you in defense of their masters if you criticize meanwhile there's people in third world countries who are starving and have never gotten the chance to play a fucking video game in their life. Then you have all these spoiled, worthless pieces of shit going on twitter talking shit to everybody. I think it's safe to say we're living in a dystopian nightmare


I will never, ever forgive Nintendo for not officially releasing any OST’s on any streaming services. The music for Mario Galaxy 1&2 is some of humanity’s greatest composition ever made, and Nintendo simply refuses to let anyone listen to it. Even though we have Gilvasunner, it’s more about the principal of the thing.

Let me listen to my god damn Mario music you animals.

and now Gilvasunner is gone. <b>sigh........</b>

and now Gilvasunner is gone. *sigh........*

Oh, you can listen to the Super Mario Galaxy OST... only on CD or in the Mario 3D All Stars collection, which has now been taken off of all store fronts, physical or digital. It baffles me how Nintendo thinks that limiting their product is more successful for them, but I guess it works.

The move here is to be a fan of games that Nintendo themselves seem to want nothing to do with. There are 30 minute extended versions of nearly every Metroid Prime 1-3 track ever made that have been up for years.

@Stella Hoenheim I really want more people to just outright stop giving Nintendo money but apparently that's too much to ask

Dude you to need to listen to more orchestra lmao

I umm... I really wouldn't go that far on the "humanity's greatest composition" thing but your point stands

in my opinion, humanity greatest composition is crash twinsanty, unfortunately I can't say that because I will get my ip leaked and some dude wearing a Luigi hat will come to my house and kill me( btw I know my school's IP, don't ask how I got it)

Ikr i want to listen to legend of Zelda music but Nintendo keeps taking down a yt video


This is what it comes down to: programming in general, and especially videogame programing, has always had a collaborative and performative community. They like making stuff and sharing it for free just for the notoriety.

These people weren't making retail quality fan-games to hurt market shares, they were doing it for kicks and praise.

If Nintendo supported their fanatical devotion (a social phenomenon especially celebrated in Japanese culture) they would have a community even more supportive than Bethesda or Valve. Just look at how supportive their community is when Nintendo treats them like garbage.


Not surprising that they use so many strong arm tactics, as it’s very likely that they have yakuza ties.


What an absolute banger of video. A true pub-stomping of the most toxic game company and their awful fanbase. Man, I wish it was easier to enjoy Nintendo’s games.


Honestly, stuff like this makes me hate the fact that I'm a Nintendo fan. They do some bullshit like this, get away with it, and dont figure out why people prefer emulation.


Tbh it sounds like Nintendo just straight up doesn't like most overseas fans. From an outsider's perspective it looks like they just tolerate the Western fanbase because they make a lot of money for them.

This is most likely the problem, second to only greed.

They also do the same shit in Japan, like they lobbied to ban game cartridge rentals in the 80s, but I guess the type of stuff used to be more accepted in Japanese culture, not sure but they are a business that does whatever it takes to have it their way, even if it would hurt their sales or give them bad press, they don't care.

it's my understanding that the nintendo culture is very similar to the culture prevalent in japan outside of major cities, that culture which was the only culture in the nation before recent times. by this i mean they think of non-japanese as dogs, and they think of non-japanese who have learned japanese as talking dogs. this is remarkably similar to the situation in china, that is, the idea that the people who are not us are dogs until they learn our language, at which point they are still dogs. it is very difficult to convince an entire nation to change such a viewpoint, but it is possible that the people of some cities in china have advanced beyond this opinion in the way that major cities in japan are doing.

@Bram Sortwell yep, japan is still pretty chauvinist

They are immensely Xenophobic, yes. Tons of Japanese corporations are the exact same way.

@Todd Howard Thanks dude! And I think we're gonna have to count it in a sense lol I'm pretty sure based on what I've heard (but haven't gotten the exact details spoiled thankfully) they added lore to Samus Returns that is gonna make it tie into Metroid 5 story wise. But I MASSIVELY prefer AM2R and wound up not feeling like completing SR playing it afterwards lol. But I guess I need to finish it now that it'll tie into Dread.

@Zyborggian Imagine how the advance wars fans feel. Also I don’t count the Metroid Two remake for the 3ds either

@Todd Howard Unfortunately for me my INTENSE love of Metroid supercedes all the bullshit about Nintendo I agree with EmpLemons video about and means I'm gonna have to get a Switch to play Metroid 5 lol. I'm just still sitting here flabbergasted that Nintendo gave enough of a damn for once to make a sequel to Metroid 4/Fusion after 19 fuckin years.

@Zyborggian I have good Wifi, I do run Bethesda after all

@Zyborggian The Nintendo comments I always try and follow up on for this video as its essentially the only way I can express my hatred of Nintendo. I feel gross for having bought a switch knowing how much I dislike them as a company but I love fire emblem and advance wars and they will literally never let any of their IP go because its how they peddle their inferior hardware

@Todd Howard JESUS you're fast I feel like I commented that like 2 seconds ago haha!

@Zyborggian It legit makes no sense. They are just throwing away money. Also pretty sure it went for 5-10 dollars. Which is ridiculous for an almost untouched translation(which they had several fan translations to borrow/use so its not like it was that hard) of a 30 year old NES game

@Todd Howard I was so mad about that because I didn't even know about the release of that having the same death day as the Mario shit until it was too late and passed

Nintendo likes their Japanese fans so much that after the SNES their consoles failed over there till the Switch. They loved doing things like limiting what content could be published on their consoles, strong arming 3rd parties, and lobbying to ban game rentals (which worked). Fire Emblem and Advance Wars took so long to come to the US because at the time it was believed that unless it was tied to a series (ex. Final Fantasy) JRPGs or strategy games didn't sell on the NES and SNES. If you go and look at the numbers as rough as they are Nintendo had a point. Of course their goal was to ensure that you bought their games more than the third-parties who they saw as competing with their sales. They eventually brought them to the GBA and kept making FE games including spinoffs. Not sure about Advance Wars these days but hey Nintendo won't make F-Zero, Detective Club, or Star Fox games either.

Whatever the individual views of the owners of these companies, at the end of the day their goal is to make profits and keep growing said profits. Microsoft doesn't do much for the Xbox line in Japan does that mean they hate the Japanese?

is only nintendo... other japanese company like Capcom like overseas fans...

@Super Saiyan Solid Snake That lack of faith and limited release also adds to the whole preservation problem. Why should a fan be content with waiting decades to get officially translated and released versions of older titles in one series. A good 1/2 of the fire emblem franchise is locked to a Japan only release. The newest translation was the very first game with only minor additions like being able to save your game during a battle. There are still about a dozen other games that have never been officially released and Nintendo expects you to wait otherwise they will ban or sue any translation or website that they get wind of that tries to provide fans with a translated version of these old games. Also to add insult to injury about the first game taking decades to be translated, it was released for Fire Emblems 30th anniversary, it was also a limited release that would stop being sold at the same time the super Mario 3d all stars collection would stop being sold. This is despite the fact that the translation was released about two months after the Mario collection making the window to get it even tighter

@Todd Howard they will quickly forget that the beloved jrpg is basically based on dnd.

The lack of faith in the abilities of western fans dates back to super Mario bros 2 as well. We didn't get the real smb 2 until it was released as the lost levels

@DrewPicklesTheDark It does make sense to focus on your at home fans as opposed to overseas pandering. But Nintendo doesn’t even try to be consumer friendly to anyone, not even Japanese Nintendo fans. I imagine there is a slew of Japanese based fan games, tourneys, and copyright protection madness that Nintendo abused or shut down we probably don’t know nearly as well about. One things for certain though, their consoles are definitely designed for the Japanese market, even if it hinders their product overall. Or it may just be Nintendo being notoriously cheap as usual.

@DrewPicklesTheDark The old Japanese business men sitting on the board of directors are a bunch of control freak traditionalists and unless you have a Japanese man there in a business suit with an important title explain to them in exurcateing detail why fan games and mods don't hurt their sales they will not give a shit about fan complaints

I can understand favoring Japanese fans, it's a Japanese company after all, but they don't have to antagonize non-Japanese fans. As far as I am aware, the majority of Japanese fans don't care what the Western fans do, unless it's SJWs trying to infiltrate (but they are hated by Western fans just as much), so it's not like being non-antagonistic to non-Japanese fans comes at the cost of their Japanese fans. There was no real reason to take down projects like AM2R or Pokemon Uranium, or the other ones, or shut down competitive communities, Smash or otherwise. It's not like the devs make money off them, or not give credit to the IP.

@Albert Norton Onymous Nintendo thought we were to stupid to like Advance Wars and Fire Emblem so I’d say you are on the money there. Ignoring the fact that things like DND( which is literally completely turn based and requires calculations for every action)existed long before those franchises and were popular to some degree in North America and European countries, assuming that people cant handle mildly difficult turn based combat games because they are to stupid to play or pay attention is really insulting and this sentiment was there until they actually released those games in Western countries in the early-mind 2000’s

Japan has a long history of racism against foreigners, so much so that the word for foreigner in Japanese is considered a slur and is censored on television. It wasn’t uncommon decades ago to see signs in front of restaurants that said “no foreigners allowed” and that was perfectly legal. <br>Kyoto is probably the most Japanese part of Japan, preserving Japan’s oldest traditions and culture, and Nintendo started in Kyoto—not only from the 1800s, but many of its top employees are from the Kyoto metro area. It makes perfect sense that they would want to shut down anything that a foreigner would try to do with their product that didn’t result in Nintendo making money.

Japan has a long history of racism against foreigners, so much so that the word for foreigner in Japanese is considered a slur and is censored on television. It wasn’t uncommon decades ago to see signs in front of restaurants that said “no foreigners allowed” and that was perfectly legal.
Kyoto is probably the most Japanese part of Japan, preserving Japan’s oldest traditions and culture, and Nintendo started in Kyoto—not only from the 1800s, but many of its top employees are from the Kyoto metro area. It makes perfect sense that they would want to shut down anything that a foreigner would try to do with their product that didn’t result in Nintendo making money.

Looking at the history of Sega, the same could be said of it. In general, I think Japan has been carrying a very big chip on its shoulder even before WW2, having been forced to open up to the world in the mid 1800s and jump hundreds of years in technology from feudal agrarians to a mechanized empire. They are a proud people that I think still have an isolationist attitude to culture and politics but love that sweet cash from abroad.  I am not saying it is a wrong attitude to have, but it is one that those who want to relate to them should understand.

They only like Japan, USA, first world European Nations and Canada. The rest, they hate.

Which is kinda one of the three reasons why, IMO, they still thrive on their strikes, even failed.
The other two are, of course, being a big company nowadays due to saving other big company in the past... AND the most ironic of them all: the majority of the hardcore haters are as much abnormal as many of the most hardcore fans.
At least, that's how I see all this fuss


Wow this video actually made me think. I was a Nintendo fan for years but then I got a PS4 because I got bored of being treated like shit.


Watching this video back again is funny after watching a video about encouraging the idea of disconnecting from reality if it makes you uncomfortable rather than obsessing over it. It's coping by pretending it doesn't exist instead of trying to make a change for the better & this video highlights what I thought as well. A lot of the kind of people that say things like this are full of shit & hypocrites themselves.


it's fine to be a fan of nintendo games but don't let that prevent you from criticizing them


Imagine paying $50 for two bad emulators and DLC for a game you don’t care about!


It's hard to watch this video without facepalming over Nintendo constantly

Stupid Rage Rant Roast of Takes by Jarmel Rudd

How many times will this notion go on?

1.- Melee tournaments and the fanbase divide the attention towards Ultimate, which is their "latest" Smash that is still being sold. Nintendo literally has nothing to gain from Melee being around and do not want to remotely support them due to various reasons (using copied versions of the game), hacking the game with Slippy, their constant non-esports and immature actions (Smash tourneys being considered smelly, throwing crabs at people, etc.) and again, no profit incentive.
Nintendo literally has no reason to remotely care about Melee and its audience.

2.- Fangames literally take from the original source for free. They are not just going to hire every impressive game team because as a company, they have to discuss and approve every project, so just saying "Yeah, champ. Let's rerelease Super Mario 64 with mods together!" isn't going to happen if the board does not think SM64 or any other fan game project won't sell or if it interrupts the success of other products.

3.- Mother 3 will never be localized because of the touchy elements ( drug scene comes to mind) that are in there. Unless it is getting remade, the original GBA game will never, ever be localized.
If censored or altered significally, will it even be worth it anymore? Just use an Emulator.

4.- Mario 3D All-Stars IS the definitive versions of those games officially. It does not matter how good the Spyro or Crash remakes are since they are NOT Mario.
Mario's games are more valuable in the market than most of Sony's mascots combined. The Prime minister dressed up as Mario, the Kansai airport has Mario welcome you to Japan, Mario games STOMP most if not all of the mascots from other companies.
There is no reason for Nintendo to suddenly remake games that are already valuable and "good" as they are.

Also the video calling whoever they disagree in infantile manchildren is pity.
Anyone with basic study of marketing can recognize the reason behind what nintendo does.

now they're here to order a cease and desist on this comment

@hellon okay Thank you for the correction 👍

@Stellvia Hoenheim woah woah bud, that is too far.

@Sunkist 01 I don’t care who defends what. If it’s over video games the sheer thought that they should be harassed or bullied is insane.

@Sunkist 01 On the topic of games specifically, can I ask what large company you would point to as an example of how it <b>should</b> be done?

@Sunkist 01 On the topic of games specifically, can I ask what large company you would point to as an example of how it *should* be done?

@Sunkist 01 I don't know about that, man, for sure it has more characters than the last entries and it's more fluid but matchmaking and online play are trash indeed. It's not like with 4 it wasn't the same thought. If anything just stay and play the stuff you really liked instead of reaching for the new if you think it's worse than it what demonstrated to be. Speaking of which, Nintendo limiting the use of Melee does not go in favor of who wants to go into that way, as for the limited retro library, which connects to the list of anti-consumer stuff they have done.

@Sunkist 01 Then let's tell 'em more, but moderately, because I think anyone here thinks the same, like by not being ridiculous about it and explain the points well.

We're all here for this and to account the fact that we don't want mediocrity anymore, bringing back cringe culture is not on the agenda of anyone.

@Sunkist 01 I love Nintendo’s games but really disagree with their business decisions. What does that make me? And most of their catalog is amazing!

@Sunkist 01 That's a really extremized take. Why would it be needed to bully people to change their opinion?

It's just the truth of it, in the end. It's a bitter pill to digest, but if you're in that precise demographic, it means you're exiting out of "fan hypnosis" or such and you're starting to consider alternatives, protest and reject a more sterile way of entertaining yourself.

At least that's how I see it for everyone, since recentely they have "woken up".


On the Byleth situation, fairly sure most people huffed the copium of "Nintendo mandated Byleth so Sakurai had nothing to do with it."


Nintendo makes the most baffling decisions out of any company I know of. I won't even go into how much they frustrate me, and I'm someone that could only afford one console recently and chose a switch. I love the switch, and I love nintendos games, but their focus on "family friendly" really fucks things up so much sometimes. Gamebuilder garage is a great example, it's so damn limited, and we have to sit through all sorts of speech from the logic blocks during the tutorials. Of course, nintendo FORCES you to experience it that way, they don't give you any options. Voice chat is another thing, I've heard many reasons for why they chose not to have system voice chat and friend request, but all of those issues could be solved by making it something parents could turn off. Instead, they just make it unavailable for all of us.


It's a shame that getting 'ratio'd' is now near impossible on this platform thanks to the removal of dislikes.


For years I disliked Nintendo as a company while still liking their games.  Now you made this video to articulate why that is, and for that I must thank you!

There's a saying as "blame the artist, not their art"

Well "Blame the company, not the individual artists and developers themselves"


I am still surprised that you have to pay yearly to use online games that you purchased, on a console you already bought and the only servers that they pay for are their own games (except Nintendo they use pier 2 pier like cavemen)


With the recent release of Nintendo's disastrous NSO Expansion Pack, I'm glad most of the Nintendo fans are stepping out of their bubble and rebel against a disastrous online product from Nintendo. I hope that continues with other Nintendo releases, but only time will tell.


Fandom : "You were like a father to me, Nintendo. And you still are !"
Nintendo : "I HATE YOU !!!"

Fandom : "You were like a father to me, Nintendo. And you still are !"
Nintendo : _"I HATE YOU !!!"_


the ending implies that this video was him talking to a nintendo fan, and his argument was so good the fan was brought to tears


"Perhaps if the company spent as much effort improving their own retro offerings as they do litigating the passionate fans who make better alternatives, there wouldn't be as much of an underground market to litigate"

I think that sums up this whole strategy perfectly.

@GodZpeed X7II <br>something your mother should have said before going ahead with giving birth to you

@GodZpeed X7II
something your mother should have said before going ahead with giving birth to you

When you're using a hammer every problem becomes a nail


As an ex-cult member, the church analogy is perfect. The dangers of my old religion weren’t the surface-level teachings, which were pretty positive. The dangers came from blind faith in everything you were told.

I absolutely love Nintendo’s games, and can’t help myself if I get hyped for a new announcement, but I am also one of the first to criticize their actions, which is what I think most fans are missing. You can enjoy something AND think it needs to improve.


I'd like to think we're progressing, even if it's just by a little bit. The new trailer for the N64 NSO addon is getting dislike bombed, which gives me hope that not all Nintendo fans are brain dead apes.


I don't think I've ever met a well adjusted Nintendo fan, its antithetical to be a well adjusted adult and be so enamored with memories of kids games you have an undying love for the person swinging the hammer and trying their hardest to smash those memories


I remember I got hooked when I came across Pokemon Diamond and bought every game after that. Now I've noticed they have gotten repetitive (They were always but not as bad as now) so I stopped buying them after Sun and Moon. I miss the old games.


Nintendo fans: try to support Nintendo and its games with free advertising
Nintendo: you’re not affiliated with me!
copyright strikes people for using their music

Nintendo fans: try to support Nintendo and its games with free advertising
Nintendo: you’re not affiliated with me!
*copyright strikes people for using their music*

@GFMHD do me a favour and get rid of your family guy pfp to protect Fox’s IP

@Lowfn You might want to read the OP comment again. The part where it says fans try to support nintendo by providing free advertising.

@massContinuity Nobody said the videos were made with the intent of providing free advertising you gonk. They're saying the videos ARE free advertising regardless of intent.

Also, can we just mention that SEGA don't do this hsit

@Imperion 02 Nintendo does not hate their fans.

@BeOneWithTheUnity Nintendo even takes down the unmonetized videos.

Ironically, if you think videos featuring Nintendo content are made with the primary objective of providing the company with free advertising, then you yourself need to leave neverland. People make let's play videos to earn ad revenue or to find validation through views and social interaction. There's nothing inherently wrong with those aims, but it sure isn't for muh altruism.

@BeOneWithTheUnity Wake up damnit. Nintendo isn't a perfect little magical land. It's another fucking company. Grow up.

Its fucking terrible. And people are so blind to this shir I'm just done at this point, I have been for the last 4 years. But it's never gonna happen because Nintendo's fans still live in The Land of Chocolate, and are to stubborn to wake up from their daydream to realise the issues that lie infront of them.

@BeOneWithTheUnity Reggie, this you bro?

@BeOneWithTheUnity uh... u know Nintendo isn't in the music industry right

@BeOneWithTheUnity you didn't watch the video did you?

Correction, <b>copystrikes for mass uploading all of their music completely monetized by the uploader</b>

Correction, *copystrikes for mass uploading all of their music completely monetized by the uploader*


When you foster your own PR team, you can do no wrong.


People act like if it's a law then it is somehow always correct, morally or otherwise, if it's legal to destroy sombodys chances of having stable life because they downloaded some songs then it must be okay. Remember when Jim crow laws were a thing? Am I to believe jim crow laws were perfectly okay because they were laws?


As a young teen I was never able to get past what Nintendo did with melee. Haven’t bought anything since


You know, I actually feel better for having my Switch sold and buying an Xbox series x. Say what you want about microsoft, but Game Pass is an overkilling service.


I am once again thanking god for not making me a Nintendo fan


Imagine something like Gmod, or Black Mesa being supported if Nintendo had made Half Life, its a literal joke that after all these fangames have prioven to show nothing but love and respect for their inspirations, AND led to more sales for their inspirations, nintendos boomer ass mindset thinks i.p and copyright is more important to their image.


This video is so frustrating because, as a Nintendo fan, whenever I try to speak up about their shittiness I’m immediately hushed up by some bootlicker. I’m just trying to advocate for better handling of something we share a love for, but it seems any criticism is labeled as toxicity


My favorite part of the video is how Emp proves his point on how Nintendo Fanboys are so bias on some dumb stuff. They all got Ratio'd hard during that part of the video


"Am I pathetic for owning a switch?"

"Yes"

Gotta be honest, did not see that coming

@Cynt Destroyer I was talking about stuff like Mario and Smash.

@BiIvaMunner Aside from Zelda, I don't remember anything near AAA-class projects(aside from ports). On my old console(don't even remeber a name) there was a game about Roadrunner and Coyote - technically, that is also exclusive for that console, since I can't play it on PC, Xbox, PS, Switch, etc., but I cannot fathom any sane individual, aside from those who played that game earlier(like me), who will prefer that game over anything, that was made in the last 17 years. Also, you know, if you live somewhere in countries, where nobody cares anout piracy emulation is , well, kind of a thing(plus for Nintendo it works hundred times better than for Xbox 360, for example)

@Cynt Destroyer What about the exclusives?

@Aster07 The facts won't change from existing of 1 trolling sentence, directed to fanbase. You can call me whatever you want, but because of pointing that one bait, the games library won't become any bigger, the prices won't become any better, and Switch won't become any "faster". "Sad but true"

@Shimlarian I'm not the biggest fan of GoW, or AC, but even AC Valhalla is a lot more better, than Mario Golf for 70$

@Cynt Destroyer NInTEND0 SwIwssh HaS No Games1!!1!1!1!1

@Cynt Destroyer tbh switch kinda poppin
i do regret havin the Wii U, THAT one to me sucked lol
i woulda got tha PS4 earlier than '17

@Cynt Destroyer you hit the nail, the soy nintendo meme exists for a reason

@Cynt Destroyer there hasn't been a good GoW or AC game since the PS3

@Cynt Destroyer well, if you're openly admitting to antagonizing anyone to everyone just to get a reaction, then what reason is there to give any of your words credit, validation or the benefit of the doubt? Enjoy the tiny hollow victory, I guess

@MangoRuby Read the comment in the context of what I was writing - "Leave "your pathetic attempts to cYbeRbUlLyInG me" ", which, basically, was a jab towards offtopic discussions about my self-esteem, my welfare, my family's health and my mother's modesty as a woman, etc. Only one thing was used here from this list, but I'm sure, that if I had a big amount of subscribers/audience/media influence, that would've been more interesting.

@Aster07 Lmao, I did literally ONE sentence of, to be fair, pretty mediocre bait, after which I even named all those people as a fanbase, without any pun, irony, or some crap like that, and even still, that was way more than enough. And how can that not be victorious, if from 3 comments I haven't seen a single one, that was direct answer to the STATEMENTS, not the one who made them, or because of how somebody made them, but to the topic itself?

@Cynt Destroyer calling someone pathetic isn’t exactly constructive mate.

@Cynt Destroyer constructive criticism is one thing, insulting someone  while proclaiming some arbitrary victory is another.

Jokes aside, Switch is literally the worst gaming console. You are allowed to either play crappy ports from PC (like that BREATHTAKING The Witcher 3 port) for higher prices,  or to play the games of 40-years old manchilds, who stuck in the 90's. There is no game on Switch, that is at leas barely comparable with Red Dead Redemption 2, Death Stranding, The Last Of Us, God Of War, or Assassin's Creed on Switch, besides Skyrim for 60 DOLLARS? TF!? XD And yeah, the prices are not regional, so, in my country, Skyrim, that costs in Steam around 30 dollars,here costs full 59.99$ . I wasn't even lazy enough to create account with my actual region, but prices remained the same, as they are for some citizen of New York. BUT WAIT A MINUTE, AT LEAST WE CAN PLAY IT ON SWITCH!!  With the horrible graphics, of course. What? In the times, when there are bootleg portative consoles on Windows 10 and RTX GPU you had really expected Switch to be decent?)) So naive of you) Even smartphone is a better option for gaming, because most of the games are free. What's the appeal besides the old fanbase? How good it is for somebody, who never played Mario or Zelda? Well, the answer is - it isn't. Waiting only for constructive criticism, you can leave your pathetic attempts to "cYbErRbUlLy" me for yourself, lol

Jokes aside, Switch is literally *the worst* gaming console. You are allowed to either play crappy ports from PC (like that *BREATHTAKING* The Witcher 3 port) for higher prices,  or to play the games of 40-years old manchilds, who stuck in the 90's. There is no game on Switch, that is at leas barely comparable with Red Dead Redemption 2, Death Stranding, The Last Of Us, God Of War, or Assassin's Creed on Switch, besides Skyrim for 60 DOLLARS? TF!? XD And yeah, the prices are not regional, so, in my country, Skyrim, that costs in Steam around 30 dollars,here costs full 59.99$ . I wasn't even lazy enough to create account with my actual region, but prices remained the same, as they are for some citizen of New York. BUT WAIT A MINUTE, AT LEAST WE CAN PLAY IT ON SWITCH!!  With the horrible graphics, of course. What? In the times, when there are bootleg portative consoles on Windows 10 and RTX GPU you had really expected Switch to be decent?)) So naive of you) Even smartphone is a better option for gaming, because most of the games are free. What's the appeal besides the old fanbase? How good it is for somebody, who never played Mario or Zelda? Well, the answer is - it isn't. Waiting only for constructive criticism, you can leave your pathetic attempts to "cYbErRbUlLy" me for yourself, lol

@The Medicated Artist Knowing the fanbase of Nintendo - sure thing it will

@Logan Roof: Pedo Exposer bro who are you

@Natetendo thanks man but i dont own a switch just found what he said funny


I realized this a good bit into Smash Ultimate. Before, I was a huge Nintendo fan, wanting to buy almost everything they released, but then I realized that over the 5 or so years before that they just kept increasing the prices, lowering quality and putting what would usually have been free content behind a paywall. Since then, I have barely touched a Nintendo console. I got Pokémon Sword and as soon as I saw there was DLC, I turned off the game, and I'm thinking about to sell all recent Nintendo games I have as well as my Switch. As soon as the fans start affecting Nintendo's revenue, Nintendo will start "caring" about the fans again. Until they start putting passion back into their games with the intent of giving fans the games they deserve, I will not purchase anything from Nintendo.


gotta love that classic emp energy in this one


The whole game industry gets away with so much right now because lawmakers don't have the literacy to even interact.

The ESRB is literally allowed to approve gambling at E for everyone.


i stopped supporting nintendo and purchasing their products when they released the wii: U. that was enough to make me jump ship, and i think it was a good move.

Wii U was pretty good despite what people say. I jumped ship on the switch even tho I have one and don’t regret it


I love EmpLemon good in depth narrative!


Everybody who was complaining  about the bad pricing of NSO online are now giving into nostalgia with Banjo and Kazooie being announced on Switch online expansion pack. It’s so easy for nintendo fans to flip-flop especially now during the switch era.


fighting the good fight, you are one of a kind emp lemon.


Definitely the best way I heard it described was "I love Nintendo as a game developer but I despise them as a company". They're so damn far behind on the times, and really anal about their properties. But you know who's just as bad? Anime companies like Toei and Studio Ghibli. Honestly though it kind of comes down to the copyright laws and cultural differences of Japan vs. America when it comes to these things. What makes sense to us is probably alien to the west, and the fact that the upper management and heads of these companies are probably overworked old business men is a big cause of these issues. Even worse, they never seem to offer any real good alternatives to playing their products. For me, it's actually really frustrating being a nintendo fan. They're kinda like youtube management in a way, now that I think about it.