I've always see Nintendo like the Apple of videogames. They limit what you can do by getting behind the "law" and no matter what shitty practices they have, fans will still buy their products.

I've always see Nintendo like the Apple of videogames. They limit what you can do by getting behind the "law" and no matter what shitty practices they have, fans will still buy their products.

@V Games I believe it was just a factual correction on something you said regarding super metroid, though I'd disagree that all Nintendo games have shit stories

@V Games I believe it was just a factual correction on something you said regarding super metroid, though I'd disagree that all Nintendo games have shit stories

@TTTY 224 thanks for the info, oh tho i have no clue which of my comments your replying to because of how big this comment chain is "was it something about Nintendo games not having any story?"

@TTTY 224 thanks for the info, oh tho i have no clue which of my comments your replying to because of how big this comment chain is "was it something about Nintendo games not having any story?"

@V Games The baby metroid hatches in Metroid 2 and comes into play for Super Metroids story which takes place directly after 2

@V Games The baby metroid hatches in Metroid 2 and comes into play for Super Metroids story which takes place directly after 2

@Gats T my fella, i know you comment is old now, and you (probably) changed, but you are making the same mistakes like the ones before you, ya'know, like a <b>cult</b>

@Gats T my fella, i know you comment is old now, and you (probably) changed, but you are making the same mistakes like the ones before you, ya'know, like a *cult*

@copperCity17 Okay, that's more like it.

It's still subjective, but I'll let you voice your opinion on it.

@copperCity17 Okay, that's more like it.

It's still subjective, but I'll let you voice your opinion on it.

@BiIvaMunner The "this random thing tells me exactly what kind of person you are" shtick is kind of cringe.

I don't remember what I said about MO exactly (i don't think it's terrible now), but I do strongly think it's a severely overrated game. And I believe part of the praise MO got comes from people's over-infatuation with Nintendo.

@BiIvaMunner The "this random thing tells me exactly what kind of person *you* are" shtick is kind of cringe.

I don't remember what I said about MO exactly (i don't think it's terrible now), but I do strongly think it's a severely overrated game. And I believe part of the praise MO got comes from people's over-infatuation with Nintendo.

@copperCity17 Do you actually have an argument?

@copperCity17 Do you actually have an argument?

@copperCity17 The fact that you immediately jump to that overused RedLetterMedia quote tells me who you are.

Look, I'm sorry I shut down your criticism, but I wouldn't call Mario Odyssey an objectively terrible game.

@copperCity17 The fact that you immediately jump to that overused RedLetterMedia quote tells me who you are.

Look, I'm sorry I shut down your criticism, but I wouldn't call Mario Odyssey an objectively terrible game.

@copperCity17 I'm not saying that negative Odyssey discussion is bad. The way you went about it, your tone was "Odyssey is a bad game, and if you think otherwise you're a suck-up."

I'm sorry if I tried to downplay your Odyssey criticism, but you can't objectively say it's a bad game.

@copperCity17 I'm not saying that negative Odyssey discussion is bad. The way you went about it, your tone was "Odyssey is a bad game, and if you think otherwise you're a suck-up."

I'm sorry if I tried to downplay your Odyssey criticism, but you can't objectively say it's a bad game.

@copperCity17 I'm not a bootlicker.

But fine. Mario Odyssey can be criticized and disliked. Saying that it's objectively a bad game is where you are incorrect.

@copperCity17 I'm not a bootlicker.

But fine. Mario Odyssey can be criticized and disliked. Saying that it's objectively a bad game is where you are incorrect.

@BiIvaMunner You missed the point. Saying "that's just your opinion" is where any and all media discussion goes to die, and then corporations become eternally happy.

In the wise words of Jay Bauman from RedLetterMedia, "Don't ask questions. Just consume product, and then get excited for next product"

@BiIvaMunner You missed the point. Saying "that's just your opinion" is where any and all media discussion goes to die, and then corporations become eternally happy.

In the wise words of Jay Bauman from RedLetterMedia, "Don't ask questions. Just consume product, and then get excited for next product"

@copperCity17 That's a totally different story.

A quality of a game is not the same as an actual fact on the state of the Earth.

@copperCity17 That's a totally different story.

A quality of a game is not the same as an actual fact on the state of the Earth.

@BiIvaMunner Yes, it is just my opinion. You can use that defence for anything in life. It is just a bunch of scientists' opinions that the Earth is round. How do you know that the sky is actually blue?

Eventually, you're Rene Decartes. But what's the point in that?

@BiIvaMunner Yes, it is just my opinion. You can use that defence for anything in life. It is just a bunch of scientists' opinions that the Earth is round. How do you know that the sky is actually blue?

Eventually, you're Rene Decartes. But what's the point in that?

@copperCity17 Well, that's just your opinion.

@copperCity17 Well, that's just your opinion.

@BiIvaMunner Which game are you talking about?

A game like Mario Odyssey is definitely not good.

@BiIvaMunner Which game are you talking about?

A game like Mario Odyssey is definitely not good.

@copperCity17 It's a bit higher than Decent

@copperCity17 It's a bit higher than Decent

I personally see them as more like Disney. People love their content and they have a massive empire in their own spheres (Nintendo with games, and Disney with movies, TV and theme parks). Both are extremely belligerent about copyright, evoke feelings of nostalgia for many people, and spit on their fans despite relying on them. They even both have a "black sheep" that's absolutely amazing that they only pay lip service to occasionally enough to make the fans think "HOLY SHIT THEY'RE BRINGING IT BACK LET'S GOOOOO" but then give them nothing else (Nintendo with Mother and Disney with Atlantis. Nintendo put Lucas and Ness in Smash, and Disney just released a Kida doll. Besides that we get nothing.)

@Phanstalgia Bias towards liking video games that are traditionally very well liked? That's pretty silly, you have to admit.

@Phanstalgia Bias towards liking video games that are traditionally very well liked? That's pretty silly, you have to admit.

Tehc Studios well, Linux allows you to do it for 0 (since they acknowledge you as the legitimate owner of the OS and device and won't charge you for what's basically the software equivalent of opening the hood of your car) so it's not much of a comparison is it?

Tehc Studios well, Linux allows you to do it for 0 (since they acknowledge you as the legitimate owner of the OS and device and won't charge you for what's basically the software equivalent of opening the hood of your car) so it's not much of a comparison is it?

@Wandering the Wastes quite a late reply, but microsoft actually allows you to mess around with your xbox quite a lot with a 20 dollar dev account (even run nintendo emulators on it)

@Wandering the Wastes quite a late reply, but microsoft actually allows you to mess around with your xbox quite a lot with a 20 dollar dev account (even run nintendo emulators on it)

@Creepy Lobster That's a truly dogshit point.

@Creepy Lobster That's a truly dogshit point.

@Friendly Astronaut Yeah I always thought that Nintendo did really good on their portable consoles despite a few shortcomings (like things that you mentioned such as shovelware and bad ports). Regardless of that I think they left  a good reputation to portable consoles to the point that when people remember that era of video games people will have good memories on them, not just Nintendo portables but also PlayStation portables too cuz these were also good in my opinion. Anyway, it’s always good to have a friendly discussion.

@Friendly Astronaut Yeah I always thought that Nintendo did really good on their portable consoles despite a few shortcomings (like things that you mentioned such as shovelware and bad ports). Regardless of that I think they left  a good reputation to portable consoles to the point that when people remember that era of video games people will have good memories on them, not just Nintendo portables but also PlayStation portables too cuz these were also good in my opinion. Anyway, it’s always good to have a friendly discussion.

@TheJuado Thanks, It seems that we agree on most things then. It was actually kinda fun talking you. I could have worded the monopoly part better but it seems you understand the point lol, I'm a bit sick so my thoughts might have been jumbled a bit. The "overrated" thing may have been an over exaggeration on my part. It was mainly due to posts and articles I've seen comparing the Switch and the 3DS, seeing which is the better console. I still think the OG DS is a bit overrated, not too much, still a great console no less, getting past all the shovelware and bad ports, you find actual Diamonds and Gems, it's great. Nintendo's mobile era is something I didn't think I'd enjoy talking about.

@Friendly Astronaut I see, I agree that Nintendo released way too many “new versions” of the same console which could make things confusing for people who weren’t informed on these consoles.

I share the same opinion as you on the portable consoles, though I personally never saw them as overrated but I can understand what you are trying to say. Setting aside the shovelware these consoles still had good libraries, GameBoy, DS and 3DS, all of them were good with a few shortcomings.

Even though Nintendo did have some sort of monopoly in that market I think that they left a good reputation for portable consoles even if that market doesn’t exist anymore.

Anyway I don’t mind long replies as long as they are well structured like yours, it’s always good for me to see people who can appreciate portable consoles

@TheJuado Sorry for the Second comment lol. Just elaborating on some points

The GBA, personally, the best handheld and I, consider up there with the best consoles ever made.

I do think people give the DS more credited that it deserves, maybe due to nostalgia and its wild success. Like I said in my original comment, it had a shovelware problem and an issue with 3rd parties ports to the console. It's still a good console with excellent titles, if you can find them, especially with the DS Lite.

The 2DS consoles didn't need to exist at all. There was no point in them, a waste of development time/money and I think its funny how people just forget these guys even exist lol.
The problem with there handhelds is there are too many unnecessary revisions that released within a year of each other: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL to the 2DS, 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DSXL, 2DSXL. Way too many for average consumers to get or understand, plus most of these revisions where just bigger screens

@TheJuado Oh there portable handhelds department was pretty good, thought they went a bit over board with all the DS models, it was like a new DS every year lol.  Not many companies catered to that department which allowed Nintendo to basically have a monopoly. I think it was a good era. The GBA was great, the DS was decent, tons of shovelware and blatant garbage though it has alot of hidden Gems. I do think the 3ds is underrated and at the same time overrated, very similar to The PS Vita; Its a good console, almost worth picking up. Its got solid titles, decent ui, backwards compatibility, and customizable, but it's not worth $300+. It heavily lacked 3rd party support and as it went through its life span, 1st party as well; the 3d gimmick was, i think, useless and annoying, the circle pad should have been a joystick, and like the DS, Too many models. If you can get one for lower than $100- $200, its a steal. I agree that it was a good console to end on, was it perfect, no, but what it did, it did right.<br> I thinks its interesting to look back on these guys. I doubt we'll ever see them again too cause they were made obsolete by phone and appstores. Since phone now powerful to the point where we can emulate N64, Dreamcast, and gamecube plus Appstore titles and whatnot, I think it was good to end on the 3DS. Other than the shovelware problem and the many many almost confusing/useless models, I dont think there was a problem with there mobile department.

@TheJuado Oh there portable handhelds department was pretty good, thought they went a bit over board with all the DS models, it was like a new DS every year lol.  Not many companies catered to that department which allowed Nintendo to basically have a monopoly. I think it was a good era. The GBA was great, the DS was decent, tons of shovelware and blatant garbage though it has alot of hidden Gems. I do think the 3ds is underrated and at the same time overrated, very similar to The PS Vita; Its a good console, almost worth picking up. Its got solid titles, decent ui, backwards compatibility, and customizable, but it's not worth $300+. It heavily lacked 3rd party support and as it went through its life span, 1st party as well; the 3d gimmick was, i think, useless and annoying, the circle pad should have been a joystick, and like the DS, Too many models. If you can get one for lower than $100- $200, its a steal. I agree that it was a good console to end on, was it perfect, no, but what it did, it did right.
 I thinks its interesting to look back on these guys. I doubt we'll ever see them again too cause they were made obsolete by phone and appstores. Since phone now powerful to the point where we can emulate N64, Dreamcast, and gamecube plus Appstore titles and whatnot, I think it was good to end on the 3DS. Other than the shovelware problem and the many many almost confusing/useless models, I dont think there was a problem with there mobile department.

@Friendly Astronaut I agree with almost everything you said, though I’m wondering, what’s your opinion on Nintendo portable consoles like the DS and 3DS? You said that you think they haven’t been good at consoles since the GameCube but I’m curious what you have to say to the portables. Personally I feel that Nintendo never fell off in the portable consoles market though nowadays that market its pretty much dead so I think the 3DS was a good console to end the portable era, Switch doesn’t count cuz it’s an hybrid.

@Friendly Astronaut I agree with almost everything you said, though I’m wondering, what’s your opinion on Nintendo portable consoles like the DS and 3DS? You said that you think they haven’t been good at consoles since the GameCube but I’m curious what you have to say to the portables. Personally I feel that Nintendo never fell off in the portable consoles market though nowadays that market its pretty much dead so I think the 3DS was a good console to end the portable era, Switch doesn’t count cuz it’s an hybrid.

And the way they treat their fans would make EA blush. Constantly spitting in there face, shitting in there cereal and They just eat it up. What's with this braindead argument I see against fangames. Sure they have the right to take down anyone of them but is it morally right? If the fancreators aren't making any money off of them then why should it matter? "ThEy NeEd To PrOtEcT ThE Ip", well what about mods then, The modding community has been routinely beaten down into oblivion just as bad as the fangame community by Nintendo. And if it was for the sake of protecting the IP from "fan game creators" Then what about SEGA or Bethesda then? SEGA actively lets their communities use their IPs as long as they do not profit from them, and that community is flourishing to the point where there are active Conventions and Competitions held about fangames (Sonic Armature Games Expo AkA S.A.G.E) or how about Fallout or Skyrim fans building whole new worlds and Using the Bethesda creation engine which They've allowed them to do. Sure They have the Right to copyright and DMCA fangame creators, but it isn't morally right. How is a simple fan game made by 3 devs not even doing it for profit going to harm a Billion dollar corporation? It's going to harm the Nintendo Seal of Quality? It's not the fucking 90s anymore.

Just want to give my opinion on this, 4 months later lol. Nintendo is overhyped and their games are overpriced for their value at times. The anti-consumer practices they do and the absolute "bend-over backwards" mentality the fandom has is laughable. The Switch, it's an ok console, nothing too spectacular. The handheld feature is perhaps the main selling point of this console but the framerate is ass, the Joycons are terrible and too small, the screen sucks, if you drop it once or twice something ends up breaking and the lack of games it has.
The joycons are too small and barely functional at times. I have very tiny hands and they barely fit the things comfortably and even though you can get them fixed for free, that's still not an excuse. Did everyone forget how we had to pull Nintendo's teeth to get that to happen? The multiple class action lawsuits and them constantly denying there was a problem?

I get that the switch is mobile and it comes at the cost of power but come on. If it was the first "day one" model then I'd be fine, but they've been pushing the same base model for almost 5 years now. Each "model" is literally the same console with slight differences, like the OLED or the Lite. It just feels cheap when I hold the thing too, like I can easily split this thing in half. Every single game I play has some type of framerate stutter, freezes, or has input lag combined with the shitty U.I, the abysmal Eshop and the lack of basic features. And the Online, THE ONLINE!!!??? I don't think I need to talk about that mess or why it's bad but 18 year old infrastructure???? The damn thing's a legal adult. There is also a function in Splatoon 2 to check and see if it's running Windows 98, Like What???

Paying full price for decade old titles, making some of them timed exclusive or the just lazy 3D All-Stars port, The awful online experience that has nothing of value but games that are a decade older than me that I can emulate with and have a significantly better experience, on my phone no less.
Personally, this is my opinion. Nintendo hasn't been good since the Gamecube, when they actually had competition. The Wii does has amazing titles and gems but most of it was ass. Most of its library is just shovel titles and the motion controls barely worked for most games that had them. The Wii U suffered from a lack of support and retarded decisions on Nintendo. The Gamepad was a terrible gimmick and a huge turnoff.

@Phanstalgia so good products and crappy service<br>{insert GabeN quote here}

@Phanstalgia so good products and crappy service
{insert GabeN quote here}

@V Games After seeing the scenes in which Luigi appears in Paper Mario I realized that he barely got treated as a joke so I got it wrong, so yeah even in the latter Paper Mario games Luigi doesn’t seem to be treated as a joke other than the occasional “look at this funny situation Luigi got himself in” scene.
You have a point on the Mario and Luigi games, I should have realized that Mario also gets made fun of in these games.
You also have a point with Mario being seen as a bigger hero than Luigi cuz the former has more adventures.
Seeing this whole argument made me realize that the whole “Mario is a bad brother” statement barely has any evidence in not just the modern games but the old games too.

@TheJuado " In some of the earlier Mario games Luigi was occasionally used for a joke scene, I’m referring to the first Paper Mario game" when and where?
"and the first Mario and Luigi game too," funny you say that, since in the first Mario and Luigi game both of the brothers get made fun of pretty much the same amount times, it was not until bowser's inside story where luigi was treated as a total joke.
"Rather than a lack of gratitude is more of Luigi being seen as the “less important brother” i mean, Mario is the hero more times then Luigi is, so it makes sense.
"but I think that it’s no doubt that 3D Mario had an impact on 3D platformers," ture.

@V Games In some of the earlier Mario games Luigi was occasionally used for a joke scene, I’m referring to the first Paper Mario game and the first Mario and Luigi game too, though Luigi also had the role of the hero in the latter. Rather than a lack of gratitude is more of Luigi being seen as the “less important brother” but I suppose this isn’t exactly Mario fault, plus there are a lot of examples of Mario being a good brother in newer games so the whole argument of Mario being an awful brother is pretty much dead, and I prefer it that way.
There are people who definitely copy what the critics say and these are the type of people I ignore when trying to find out what is the general opinion on a game. I listen to people who don’t have a bias towards a game and actually know stuff about it.
There are games that have clear inspiration from Mario games, though I should say that the “there are a lot of them” statement was an exaggeration from me, but I think that it’s no doubt that 3D Mario had an impact on 3D platformers, and yeah, there are a few indie games inspired by Paper Mario.

@Gats T Pssssssssst. You can do just as much if not more for hundreds of dollars less with the Commodore 64 competitor. :)

@Gats T Pssssssssst. You can do just as much if not more for hundreds of dollars less with the Commodore 64 competitor. :)

@TheJuado "About Mario being an awful brother it was kinda true for the earlier games were Mario seemed to lack gratitude for Luigi" so mario not having gratitude for luigi equals him being an awful brother? also why should mario have gratitude for luigi when in canon mario's the hero for the earlier games and luigi was not until luigi's manson? also in which games did mario not show gratitude for luigi?
"but I was also talking about the reception the games get by the public as a whole. Even people who aren’t fans of the Mario series have a positive opinion of the games." i think thats because they copy what ever the critics think and they think that mario is the god of all platformers imo.
"but I don’t like how some just say that the games are trash cuz of the fanboys that act like Nintendo is some sort of flawless company." agree these people are trash for thinking that fans make games bad somehow.
"When it comes to the best Mario games I think that most of the 3D platformers and the early RPGs are the peak of Mario games," agree.
"to the point that there are non-Nintendo games inspired by them, a lot of 3D platformers games take inspiration from the 3D Mario games, there even are games that take inspiration form the early Paper Mario games." there are?
"Anyways that’s my take on it, sorry if the reply feels long," i don't mind long replys.

@V Games Late reply but I’ll answer some of your points.
The Paper Mario games were definitely developed by intelligent systems, saying that Nintendo developed them was my mistake, I kind of got carried on with that statement cuz intelligent systems only develops games exclusively for Nintendo.
About Mario being an awful brother it was kinda true for the earlier games were Mario seemed to lack gratitude for Luigi but this is not the case anymore cuz his relationship with his brother is much better in the newer games.
As for their personalities, I said they are simple so I didn’t feel the need to define them, Mario has an heroic personality and Luigi is a coward but is always willing to be heroic when it’s necessary, so yeah they have very simple personalities it’s not that most Mario characters were complex anyway.
The rest of your statements seem to be about your opinion on the Mario series as a whole, so I will give my take on it. The Mario series has its amount of good and bad games, whether you like them or not is another thing but in my replies I was not just talking about my opinion on the quality of the games but I was also talking about the reception the games get by the public as a whole. Even people who aren’t fans of the Mario series have a positive opinion of the games. However not everyone will like them and that’s fine but I don’t like how some just say that the games are trash cuz of the fanboys that act like Nintendo is some sort of flawless company. There are Mario fans that complain about the quality of some of the newer games like the case of the Paper Mario RPGs.
I also find a lot of Mario games to be disappointing, and seeing your replies we both agree that the New Super Mario Bros 2D games are bad, frankly I only liked the DS and the Wii games of that series. When it comes to the best Mario games I think that most of the 3D platformers and the early RPGs are the peak of Mario games, though I’m not saying that just because I like them but also cuz a lot of people consider them to be great games to the point that there are non-Nintendo games inspired by them, a lot of 3D platformers games take inspiration from the 3D Mario games, there even are games that take inspiration form the early Paper Mario games.
Anyways that’s my take on it, sorry if the reply feels long, but it’s fine if you don’t like the Mario franchise.

@Phanstalgia >60$ wii port that locks fast travel behind a 5$ figure

@Phanstalgia >60$ wii port that locks fast travel behind a 5$ figure

@Geeeee8 "They're extremely well made and designed." no, Mario games are way to easy and they love putting bottomless pits/instant death when ever they can.

@Geeeee8 "They're extremely well made and designed." no, Mario games are way to easy and they love putting bottomless pits/instant death when ever they can.

@V Games what am I gonna do convince you? They're extremely well made and designed. There you go. I don't care what games you like.

@V Games what am I gonna do convince you? They're extremely well made and designed. There you go. I don't care what games you like.

@Geeeee8 yes, most Mario games are lazy, how about you give me a actual counter argument for why mario don't suck?

@Geeeee8 yes, most Mario games are lazy, how about you give me a actual counter argument for why mario don't suck?

@Gats T what was my completely original and unique observation? i can't find it.

@Gats T what was my completely original and unique observation? i can't find it.

@Hereward so you admit then that Nintendo games are bad?

@Hereward so you admit then that Nintendo games are bad?

@Gats T "Nintendo makes great products" no again?

@Gats T "Nintendo makes great products" no again?

@GodZpeed X7II "Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does" so why did the will u fail then?

@GodZpeed X7II "Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does" so why did the will u fail then?

@DO-CTOR "I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company" Nintendo don't care what you think so long as you keep buying there stuff.

@DO-CTOR "I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company" Nintendo don't care what you think so long as you keep buying there stuff.

@GodZpeed X7II Nope, The NSMB games are hot garbage.

@GodZpeed X7II Nope, The NSMB games are hot garbage.

@TheJuado "Mario being an awful brother is sort of implied" where and when? "In terms of personality both of them are very simple" can list what both of there
personalities are?
"I was thinking of the “New super Mario bros” series in which the modern games are kind of bland," i agree.
"Anyway the 3D Mario platforming games are some of the best games ever made imo." i disagree, i think that Mario games have some of the worst gameplay design ever made, but if you what to know why i think that you can just ask me.

@TheJuado "Mario being an awful brother is sort of implied" where and when? "In terms of personality both of them are very simple" can list what both of there
personalities are?
"I was thinking of the “New super Mario bros” series in which the modern games are kind of bland," i agree.
"Anyway the 3D Mario platforming games are some of the best games ever made imo." i disagree, i think that Mario games have some of the worst gameplay design ever made, but if you what to know why i think that you can just ask me.

@TheJuado "I’m talking about the ones Nintendo did develop like the first three Paper Mario games" Nintendo did not develop the first three Paper Mario games, intelligent systems did.
"but saying that Nintendo has never tried to tell a story and that they “harm” the industry by not telling them is just a straight lie." i agree.
 but I think is an exaggeration to say that the Mario series as a whole is bad." no, most Mario games are trash.
"There is a reason why Mario is the most popular video game series" yea, the reason Mario is the most popular video game series is because his fanbase worship him and his games without checking if the games are trash or not, because the games are made by there god and saver Nintendo.

@Thatnoobcheezy " the vast majority of products are good" not really?

@Thatnoobcheezy " the vast majority of products are good" not really?

@4nt "is an awful brother to Luigi" not this bad agreement again.<br>"he gets kidnapped by a ghost every now and then so his objectively better younger brother (who actually has some sort of personality)" you mean luigi the guy who's only personality that his a coward and a crybaby?

@4nt "is an awful brother to Luigi" not this bad agreement again.
"he gets kidnapped by a ghost every now and then so his objectively better younger brother (who actually has some sort of personality)" you mean luigi the guy who's only personality that his a coward and a crybaby?

@Haruhiro Grimgar "Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the entirety of the majour story events told within the game." thats only ture on some level, samas did spare the Baby Metroid when it mistake samas as its mom, i have not played Super Metroid so please don't attack me.<br>also don't tloz skyward sword/tloz majora's mask and tloz twilight princess have good stories?

@Haruhiro Grimgar "Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the entirety of the majour story events told within the game." thats only ture on some level, samas did spare the Baby Metroid when it mistake samas as its mom, i have not played Super Metroid so please don't attack me.
also don't tloz skyward sword/tloz majora's mask and tloz twilight princess have good stories?

@V Games Wow, what a completely original and unique observation

@V Games Wow, what a completely original and unique observation

@Angry Pepe "What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out." so they are just like most other companys then.

@Angry Pepe "What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out." so they are just like most other companys then.

@Mario Adventure 2 so joycon dirft is good then?

@Mario Adventure 2 so joycon dirft is good then?

@coned "nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2." oh, please get your head check if you actually think like that.

@coned "nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2." oh, please get your head check if you actually think like that.

@Robert Harris " a games value still naturaly declines over time..." what? no, how?

@Robert Harris " a games value still naturaly declines over time..." what? no, how?

@Geeeee8 "That's because their games are incredible" games like

Mario kart 8,

all the new sups games,

mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,

paper mario sticker star,

paper mario color splash,

paper mario origami king

mario and luigi paper jam,

mario party 9,

mario party 10,

super mario party,

mario party the top 100,

mario tennis ultra smash,

mario tennis ace,

mario sports superstars,

yoshi new island,

luigi's mansion 3,

and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Geeeee8 "That's because their games are incredible" games like
Mario kart 8,
all the new sups games,
mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,
paper mario color splash,
paper mario origami king
mario and luigi paper jam,
mario party 9,
mario party 10,
super mario party,
mario party the top 100,
mario tennis ultra smash,
mario tennis ace,
mario sports superstars,
yoshi new island,
luigi's mansion 3,
and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Hereward so you like lazy mediocre games like,

Mario kart 8,

all the new sups games,

mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,

paper mario sticker star,

paper mario color splash,

paper mario origami king

mario and luigi paper jam,

mario party 9,

mario party 10,

super mario party,

mario party the top 100,

mario tennis ultra smash,

mario tennis ace,

mario sports superstars,

yoshi new island,

luigi's mansion 3,

and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Hereward so you like lazy mediocre games like,
Mario kart 8,
all the new sups games,
mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,
paper mario sticker star,
paper mario color splash,
paper mario origami king
mario and luigi paper jam,
mario party 9,
mario party 10,
super mario party,
mario party the top 100,
mario tennis ultra smash,
mario tennis ace,
mario sports superstars,
yoshi new island,
luigi's mansion 3,
and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Gronn "Only diference is that nintendo makes good games,"  yea right, that's why they keep releasing/making lazy mediocre games like

Mario kart 8,

all the new sups games,

mario kart tour the kids game with lootboxs,

paper mario sticker star,

paper mario color splash,

paper mario origami king

mario and luigi paper jam,

mario party 9,

mario party 10,

super mario party,

mario party the top 100,

mario tennis ultra smash,

mario tennis ace,

mario sports superstars,

yoshi new island,

luigi's mansion 3,

and all the lazy rehasense/remakes/ports, like remember mario 3d all stars trash?

@Caden Tannery "Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game." no?

@Caden Tannery "Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game." no?

@Gats T "Unlike Apple though, they make a good product." joycon drift anyone?

@Gats T "Unlike Apple though, they make a good product." joycon drift anyone?

@GodZpeed X7II

Look at you this is pathetic

If The Wii U was just as powerful as a ps4 or Xbox one then why were games that were ported to Wii U often a downgrade in graphics and framerate. Plus misinformation wasn't the actual crux as it was the confusing marketing.

If the exclusives saved the Wii U then why was the Wii U quickly abandoned for the switch the second it eclipsed the Wii U's sales. Nintendo wouldn't go tooth and nail just to port over most of the Wii U's exclusives to the switch if the Wii U wasn't a huge flop.

In terms of stories, Kirby stories always had stand out moments but at the end of the day Kirby stories are extremely simple.

And yes stories aren't everything but when you're going this far to defend these stories and say their amazing I have the right to criticize that notion.

Nintendo has backpedaled with stories before whether it's losing the full voice acting from sunshine, to not having an interesting story in Galaxy 2 up until Odyssey after the first one was kind of on to something.

I'm Terms of community you proved no point but my own with your "these aren't fans they are just haters wanting to bash Nintendo for no reason" Gatekeeping bullshit. wake up dude this video lists some of Nintendo's hostile actions against people and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

I was going to continue but you really aren't worth it especially since your examples are the equivalent of saying "no they're not" without saying why they aren't.

Go outside and stop it

@Dakota Andrews Im 14 Trying To Understand Things

@Dakota Andrews Im 14 Trying To Understand Things

@Eva Sackaton Good video overall. Nintendo makes great products, but because they're an old Japanese company, they're always gonna be behind other companies in terms of policy. I do really hope they get some new blood in to change things though...

@Eva Sackaton Good video overall. Nintendo makes great products, but because they're an old Japanese company, they're always gonna be behind other companies in terms of policy. I do really hope they get some new blood in to change things though...

@Gats T Aside From NIntendo Games What Did You Think About Emplemons Video.

@Gats T Aside From NIntendo Games What Did You Think About Emplemons Video.

@Αντώνης τ And those who will still buy regardless of how they're treated.<br>And why Nintendo and other companies will keep getting away with it.

@Αντώνης τ And those who will still buy regardless of how they're treated.
And why Nintendo and other companies will keep getting away with it.

@Gats T lmfao miyazaki hates making sequels. He was contracted to do 3 games for Namco within the DS series. Sekiro isn't getting a sequel and bloodborne too because of Miyazaki. Do some research first before making dumb assumptions

@Gats T lmfao miyazaki hates making sequels. He was contracted to do 3 games for Namco within the DS series. Sekiro isn't getting a sequel and bloodborne too because of Miyazaki. Do some research first before making dumb assumptions

@Darkzeroprojects I mean yeah, for example the online is shit and expensive so i dont buy it, or the mario 64 sunshine port that was super overpriced.<br>But for other more complete games i think its worth the price

@Darkzeroprojects I mean yeah, for example the online is shit and expensive so i dont buy it, or the mario 64 sunshine port that was super overpriced.
But for other more complete games i think its worth the price

@Gronn yes good games of quality..<br>However I don't think they're good to the point of enduring what they do .

@Gronn yes good games of quality..
However I don't think they're good to the point of enduring what they do .

@Gats T For me its mainly the overall things in it.
Not just hardware but the features and the "services" provided with exclusives if a console.
And tbh the big 3 kinda lacking in areas.

Sure Nintendo has alot of First party but its of the same overused Ips of Mario,Zelda,Pokemon,and previous gen games like Splatoon or animal crossing.

Sure they dont demand high money for paied online but its lackluster net code and locking peer2peer isnt worth it.
Also only allowing rent of re released roms.

Sure they're switch systems are more affordable but they're also cheap feeling imo and their joycondrifting nonsense isn't helping.

The prices of their games just is frustrating when others lower prices after a games been out for 4 years.

And their behavior to fans like to this video shows is what I kinda dont want to give money for.

@GodZpeed X7II That’s why I am saying that the whole “Mario is a bad brother” is mostly as you said, a head canon by other people, I don’t think he was bad so I pretty much agree with you.

Mario 2D games do have that “soul”, I just wish the newer ones took more risks and brought more new things like the way the 3D games have been doing.

@GodZpeed X7II That’s why I am saying that the whole “Mario is a bad brother” is mostly as you said, a head canon by other people, I don’t think he was bad so I pretty much agree with you.

Mario 2D games do have that “soul”, I just wish the newer ones took more risks and brought more new things like the way the 3D games have been doing.

@GodZpeed X7II I am glad you’re agreeing with me on this: the majority of players may indeed enjoy gameplay more than other aspects of any given game, but there’s always a large and active minority of people to whom graphics are key. Finally someone understands. Cheers! :D

@GodZpeed X7II I am glad you’re agreeing with me on this: the majority of players may indeed enjoy gameplay more than other aspects of any given game, but there’s always a large and active minority of people to whom graphics are key. Finally someone understands. Cheers! :D

@Andrei Rachko This is a fact like it or not: Graphics do not make a game, Gameplay does and it is the only thing that matters. Gameplay is the main point of the game. Graphics aren’t. If I want to look at pretty pictures then I can go see a movie or look at art. Gameplay is the most relevant thing since it’s called a VIDEO GAME. Graphics are only there to show the game. The gameplay is the main focus. This is a fact. Everything you said is false while everything me and Gats said are factual.

@Andrei Rachko This is a fact like it or not: Graphics do not make a game, Gameplay does and it is the only thing that matters. Gameplay is the main point of the game. Graphics aren’t. If I want to look at pretty pictures then I can go see a movie or look at art. Gameplay is the most relevant thing since it’s called a VIDEO GAME. Graphics are only there to show the game. The gameplay is the main focus. This is a fact. Everything you said is false while everything me and Gats said are factual.

@Andrei Rachko Nope. His point ring true to all

@Andrei Rachko Nope. His point ring true to all

@TheJuado Nah. 2D Mario games will always have the soul that is Mario

@TheJuado Nah. 2D Mario games will always have the soul that is Mario

@TheJuado Dude Mario wasn’t bad to begin with. That was only in people’s headcanons when in reality Mario is a great brother

@TheJuado Dude Mario wasn’t bad to begin with. That was only in people’s headcanons when in reality Mario is a great brother

@Darkzeroprojects Yes it will and it isn’t nonsense

@Darkzeroprojects Yes it will and it isn’t nonsense

@Andrei Rachko Nope all of that is false. Most people will pick up things from Nintendo and it is not denying. Graphics don’t matter when the main aspect that sells is GAMEPLAY

@Andrei Rachko Nope all of that is false. Most people will pick up things from Nintendo and it is not denying. Graphics don’t matter when the main aspect that sells is GAMEPLAY

@Andrei Rachko Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does

@Andrei Rachko Graphics don’t spark the interest. Gameplay does

@wackyclock No I didn’t, all I’m doing is stating facts

@wackyclock No I didn’t, all I’m doing is stating facts

@Eva Sackaton I watched the video and it’s complete garbage and wrong

@Eva Sackaton I watched the video and it’s complete garbage and wrong

@DO-CTOR Nintendo doesn’t have shitty practices

@DO-CTOR Nintendo doesn’t have shitty practices

@GodZpeed X7II Then I suppose we both can agree that Mario is a good brother to Luigi, I was just pointing out what some people say about him being a bad brother despite him not being bad anymore.

About the NSMB games I don’t think they are bad but it would be cool if they tried something more interesting with them, the 3D Mario games have done a very good job with this cuz games like 3D world and Odyssey have differences but maintains the soul that Mario games have.

@GodZpeed X7II Then I suppose we both can agree that Mario is a good brother to Luigi, I was just pointing out what some people say about him being a bad brother despite him not being bad anymore.

About the NSMB games I don’t think they are bad but it would be cool if they tried something more interesting with them, the 3D Mario games have done a very good job with this cuz games like 3D world and Odyssey have differences but maintains the soul that Mario games have.

@Gats T no amount of good games make me want to put up with this kind of nonsense

@Gats T no amount of good games make me want to put up with this kind of nonsense

@Gats T your point may ring true to a lot of people - and I respect that - but for some, graphics happens to be the main aspect of a game that sparks interest. I know several people, myself included, who preferred some obscure mobile games to serious titles on PC and consoles not because of price or availability (as some were quite wealthy), but solely for the appealing imagery and visual style of the games. To say that gameplay is the only important component of a game is to deny that games are aesthetic experiences too. I, for one, don’t think I’ll ever pick up anything from Nintendo since I do not like how any of their games look, and unfortunately, no amount of gameplay smoothness or story depth makes them more appealing to me. On the other hand, LIMBO and Monument Valley will firmly remain on my phone, even though I’ve completed them all ages ago.

@GodZpeed X7II man you went out tha ballpark with the trollin

@GodZpeed X7II man you went out tha ballpark with the trollin

@SoulfulCabbage <br>Bloodborne is a dead ip because Sony basically told the developers behind it to fuck off so they can focus on western games, and I've never really been a big fan of HZD. I like very few open world games, so it's just another to me tbh.

@SoulfulCabbage
Bloodborne is a dead ip because Sony basically told the developers behind it to fuck off so they can focus on western games, and I've never really been a big fan of HZD. I like very few open world games, so it's just another to me tbh.

@Gats T you forget bloodborne and HZD exists you Nintendog

@Gats T you forget bloodborne and HZD exists you Nintendog

@GodZpeed X7 Ask Me. Did You Watch The Whole Video

@GodZpeed X7 Ask Me. Did You Watch The Whole Video

With all due respect, I'm just overall more interested in what Nintendo offers than anyone else, but it is not an endorsement of their shitty practices. I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company, that I can assure you of.

With all due respect, I'm just overall more interested in what Nintendo offers than anyone else, but it is not an endorsement of their shitty practices. I'll keep buying their stuff but will ALWAYS be as critical of them as with any other company, that I can assure you of.

@TheJuado The 2D and 3D Mario games are the best

@TheJuado The 2D and 3D Mario games are the best

@TheJuado Nope. The NSMB games are better and the modern games aren’t bland

@TheJuado Nope. The NSMB games are better and the modern games aren’t bland

@TheJuado Just because Luigi talks doesn’t mean he shows more personality.

@TheJuado Just because Luigi talks doesn’t mean he shows more personality.

@TheJuado No it was never implied. In many Mario games he’s shown to be a great brother

@TheJuado No it was never implied. In many Mario games he’s shown to be a great brother

@GodZpeed X7II Mario being an awful brother is sort of implied but it’s mostly just hypothetical stuff, not that it matters cuz that’s in the past, in newer Mario games he has shown to be a good brother.

In terms of personality both of them are very simple but that is not a bad thing, though Luigi does talk in the Paper Mario games which show a little more of a defined personality.

I should have specified with the whole “Celeste is better than 2D Mario games”, I was thinking of the “New super Mario bros” series in which the modern games are kind of bland, at least there is Mario Maker which is pretty good.

The main point of my reply to the other user was how he was devaluing the Mario franchise as a whole and calling it “forgettable” which is far from the truth, it’s just that there definitely are some good indie games that can compare to AAA games, not just Nintendo. Anyway the 3D Mario platforming games are some of the best games ever made imo.

@Luis Alfonso Pinto THANK YOU! Finally someone said it!

@Luis Alfonso Pinto THANK YOU! Finally someone said it!

@Robert Harris Yeah no graphics fidelity IS noticeable. You never played a Nintendo game in your entire life

@Robert Harris Yeah no graphics fidelity IS noticeable. You never played a Nintendo game in your entire life

@Robert Harris The ezio games have some of the worst stories and no. BOTW has the best art style and the best graphics

@Robert Harris The ezio games have some of the worst stories and no. BOTW has the best art style and the best graphics

@BobaDaFett No I’m not a fanboy, I’m a dude who’s tired of the anti Nintendo bullshit

@BobaDaFett No I’m not a fanboy, I’m a dude who’s tired of the anti Nintendo bullshit

@BobaDaFett DS was never a shovel ware palace dude

@BobaDaFett DS was never a shovel ware palace dude

@Robert Harris All of that is false and neither of that was created by assassin’s creed

@Robert Harris All of that is false and neither of that was created by assassin’s creed

@Robert Harris its nothing like assassin's creed

@Robert Harris its nothing like assassin's creed

@BobaDaFett the ezio games have one of the best storys in a video game... and BOTW simply has a more styalized art style so graphic fidelity isnt as noticeable.

@BobaDaFett the ezio games have one of the best storys in a video game... and BOTW simply has a more styalized art style so graphic fidelity isnt as noticeable.

@GodZpeed X7 I'm not trying to be mean but you kinda do sound like a fanboy and this is coming from someone who has 3 Nintendo consoles and 1 Sony Console

@GodZpeed X7 I'm not trying to be mean but you kinda do sound like a fanboy and this is coming from someone who has 3 Nintendo consoles and 1 Sony Console

@GodZpeed X7 I mean the ds was a shovel ware palace but ok

@GodZpeed X7 I mean the ds was a shovel ware palace but ok

@Robert Harris botw is more cartoonish and the story is really good to be honest the Graphics are definitely better than AC2

@Robert Harris botw is more cartoonish and the story is really good to be honest the Graphics are definitely better than AC2

@Robotic Venom the ps vita is extremely underpowered if we compare it to the switch

@Robotic Venom the ps vita is extremely underpowered if we compare it to the switch

@Wandering the Wastes  xbox developer hub exists

@Wandering the Wastes  xbox developer hub exists

I care about their PRODUCTS, not "fan content".

I care about their PRODUCTS, not "fan content".

@UncannyEXP theyre literaly a money hungry that gives subpar products to a group of people that were raised onthem and thus have low standards. just like apple.

@UncannyEXP theyre literaly a money hungry that gives subpar products to a group of people that were raised onthem and thus have low standards. just like apple.

@GodZpeed X7II Didn't I type "one of the worst offenders"? Won't scroll through 303 replies to see if I did it or not but that was my intention at least.

@GodZpeed X7II Didn't I type "one of the worst offenders"? Won't scroll through 303 replies to see if I did it or not but that was my intention at least.

@Dakota Andrews no. It has climbing. Parachutes/gliding. Open world colectables. Dungeons you go into for a special reward at the end. A wide array of weapons which you can aquire from the enemies you kill. Crafting. And thats just what i can think of that assassins creed did first off the top of my head.

@Dakota Andrews no. It has climbing. Parachutes/gliding. Open world colectables. Dungeons you go into for a special reward at the end. A wide array of weapons which you can aquire from the enemies you kill. Crafting. And thats just what i can think of that assassins creed did first off the top of my head.

@Robotic Venom I remember being 14 once.

@Robotic Venom I remember being 14 once.

Nintendo to me is the souls Apple and Disney fused together into the body of a vicious oni

Nintendo to me is the souls Apple and Disney fused together into the body of a vicious oni

@GodZpeed X7II aww the soy boy is mad that his company can be criticized

@GodZpeed X7II aww the soy boy is mad that his company can be criticized

@TheJuado 2D platforming Mario games aren’t weak and I disagree with that

@TheJuado 2D platforming Mario games aren’t weak and I disagree with that

@TheJuado Mario wasn’t an awful brother to Luigi, that’s a false misconception. Also Mario has a less genetic personality.

@TheJuado Mario wasn’t an awful brother to Luigi, that’s a false misconception. Also Mario has a less genetic personality.

@4nt Mario being an awful brother is kind of a thing in the past, Luigi definitely has a less generic personality though.

@4nt Mario being an awful brother is kind of a thing in the past, Luigi definitely has a less generic personality though.

@Haruhiro Grimgar I highly disagree with your replies regarding Nintendo games stories, they do have tried to tell different stories a few times with some of their series while some of them actually try to tell a story in every installment. For example, the Mario series have actually tried to tell a story in the RPG games and I’m not talking about the one Square developed, I’m talking about the ones Nintendo did develop like the first three Paper Mario games that actually try to tell a story using Mario characters. As for Pokemon, yeah they never had a complex story to be exact, but I heard that generation 5 did have interested moral themes regarding the world of Pokemon (though technically Gamefreak are the developers of Pokemon). I’m not saying they have the most complex stories ever told in video games but saying that Nintendo has never tried to tell a story and that they “harm” the industry by not telling them is just a straight lie.

Some user above in the replies already gave more examples of Nintendo series that actually try to tell a story in each installment. They also mentioned why story isn’t always a priority when making a game and gave DOOM as a good example.

By the way, I’m curious why you would consider Celeste to be above the Mario platforming games, sure indie games like Hollow Knight, Cuphead and Celeste have been capable of outdoing AAA games but Mario? Nowadays the 2D platforming Mario games may be weak and I can agree that Celeste is better than those, but I think is an exaggeration to say that the Mario series as a whole is bad. There is a reason why Mario is the most popular video game series and in terms of quality the 3D platforming Mario games are definitely the peak of the franchise, Super Mario Galaxy is pretty much the Magnum Opus of the franchise.

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Nope

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Nope

@Thatnoobcheezy The fans aren’t oblivious because their business practices aren’t trashy

@Thatnoobcheezy The fans aren’t oblivious because their business practices aren’t trashy

@4nt Mario is NOT an awful brother to Luigi. He cares about his brother and it shows like in the Mario and Luigi games he shows a lot of care for his brother. No he is every gamer’s choice

@4nt Mario is NOT an awful brother to Luigi. He cares about his brother and it shows like in the Mario and Luigi games he shows a lot of care for his brother. No he is every gamer’s choice

@TricksterCJ Earthbound is the most meaningful Nintendo story

@TricksterCJ Earthbound is the most meaningful Nintendo story

@4nt Dude I ain’t shit posting. I’m stating facts

@4nt Dude I ain’t shit posting. I’m stating facts

@Haruhiro Grimgar They didn’t have any lobotomies about growing and his series wouldn’t be lost to time thanks to the majority of people who recognize Mario and still does to this day

@Haruhiro Grimgar They didn’t have any lobotomies about growing and his series wouldn’t be lost to time thanks to the majority of people who recognize Mario and still does to this day

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is NOT the most forgettable type of game and series because the MAJORITY of people will recognize Mario and nobody has ever forgotten him sense. This is proof that I know you’re lying because if he was the most forgotten then why do the majority of the world know who Mario is, know what his story is and know what his games are? Shows that you don’t know anything about Mario

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is NOT the most forgettable type of game and series because the MAJORITY of people will recognize Mario and nobody has ever forgotten him sense. This is proof that I know you’re lying because if he was the most forgotten then why do the majority of the world know who Mario is, know what his story is and know what his games are? Shows that you don’t know anything about Mario

@Haruhiro Grimgar Everyone who defends Mario with facts can debunk you many times and you found the wrong people. MANY are successful but you haven’t found the right people to talk about which is pretty biased to your argument

@Haruhiro Grimgar Everyone who defends Mario with facts can debunk you many times and you found the wrong people. MANY are successful but you haven’t found the right people to talk about which is pretty biased to your argument

@Haruhiro Grimgar There ARE major story elements and events. Dude look at Mario and Rabbids and then come back

@Haruhiro Grimgar There ARE major story elements and events. Dude look at Mario and Rabbids and then come back

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no, replace Mario with anything and you’ll see a change

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no, replace Mario with anything and you’ll see a change

@Nero Bernardino They aren’t the worst offenders regarding consumer respect dudd

@Nero Bernardino They aren’t the worst offenders regarding consumer respect dudd

@Flaming Cheeto puff They aren’t behind specs wise

@Flaming Cheeto puff They aren’t behind specs wise

@TricksterCJ  I’ve read your comment and I have to say: Everything you told me was factually wrong.

If you actually had a decent amount of comment sense then you would realize that all of my arguments on this comment section has amounted to actual facts because never made any claims and I DID back them up while you and your friends here are lying to the extent where you aren’t even that close to telling facts.

 Yeah no, majority of people here aren’t Nintendo fans and are mostly haters wanting to bash on a company that has done nothing wrong and if you're saying that I’m  ignoring them then you seriously don’t understand anything.

Wii U: Yeah no in terms of power, Nintendo has been matching Playstation and Xbox for many years. Also the Wii U sold poorly because the media spread misinformation about the product. Dude third parties finally had an HD console which has been stated by developers that it’s like developing for an Xbox 360 so I know your argument is false.

Exclusives DID save it and Nintendo didn’t dig up any holes. They are a billion dollar company and for you to say such bull is the reason why the community dislikes you today,

No the biggest thing that keeps Nintendo on the map are many of their games.  No what’s ludicrous is that how the Xbox and PlayStation gets a save even though their hardware are just watered down PCs and it’s no wonder why there are so many PCMR people out there mocking PlayStation and Xbox players.

Stories:
Again this is where you’re wrong, many nintendo games have memorable stories that  still being discussed of today. Kirby is a game with extensive lore AND thrilling stories.

They don’t cower with a thought of a story based game considering the fact that it isn’t always about story. It’s about PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME.

Fanbase: Dude I don’t know where you’re getting this from but it’s obvious that this isn’t true. The Nintendo fanbase is one of the most tamest fan bases to ever exist.

Both sides of the Pokemon community didn’t went rabid over each other. Gamefreak didn’t have many shady practices and Nintendo didn’t breed any cultures of complacency.

Yeah no, just because I’m here defend in Nintendo doesn’t show how they aren't "Chill". The majority of Nintendo fans are more chill than the minority of the rabid ones.

It was NEVER pre-fallout 76/4 Bethesda Fanboy and so what if Nintendo gets a lot of praise.

Dude Nintendo is not going to make a Fallout 76 or Mulan 2019 and for you to actually think that is completely false.

The Smash Community isnt much toxic no matter how much you want to try and say.

Dude those are SOME examples compared to the majority of people who don’t act like that at all.

Price: Nintendo has no problem with overpricing considering MANY COMPANIES like Sony and Microsoft did a lot of overpricing too.

Kirby Star Allies was NOT unfinished and it WAS worth $60 no matter what your mind tries to tell you.

Pokemon Sword and shield has more polished content than its predecessors has DLC has always been around like this so what is your problem? No it isn’t mediocre.

Skyward Sword HD will always have a much more quality life change than Sonic Colors ultimate and you are wrong on those levels.

Sonic Colors Ultimate doesn’t have more content, their songs aren’t remixed that much considering the fact that I doubt people are going to listen to their songs, also cosmetics and a keychain doesn’t make a product with value.

Dude Sega was never able to squeeze out something like that and Nintendo always did a better job than Sega did.

Most of the older games don’t always have their original prices so you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

Modding:
Modding doesn’t always help in ballooning a game’s popularity.

Minecraft and Skyrim are NOT a testament.

Also no dude, Minecraft was already doing fine as it was before YouTuber and modding came on the scene.

Skyrim and Oblivion kind of didn’t use a mod to and the games doesn’t have many breaking bugs.

Their mods are NOT highly anticipated and they will never be as big as a AAA game.

Mods are NOT why Skyrim is still being talked about, the game is popular enough to be talked to many people.

There’s been info on The Elder Scrolls 6 and no, modding is NOT the next best thing to keep people's mind off of the game's release date.

Yes SEGA was in a bad place after Boom so hired many indie developers to make an official game which proves they’re lazy.

Modding and games have no relationship and yes a game can survive without modding and can do extremely well without it and dude a modding community is NOT  free advertising and all mods don’t require a purchased copy of the game.

Publicity: Yeah no if you knew anything about the world we live then you should realize that publicity is NOT everything.

Nintendo already has good public relations and again, they’re a billion dollar company that isn’t going to go down any time soon.

No they WERE like this from the start.

Yeah no companies  did the stuff they do now back when they were new then they still wouldn’t have gone out nor shut down.

Publicity is NOT always important for Indie creators also dude you can blame the cancel culture for allegations, do you not realize what world we live in? Any type of stuff you do be it good or bad or a misunderstanding of a innocent could cause ANY image to bleed. Look at what they did to Projared.

I have provided way better examples than you ever did and how about a tip: The next time you decide that you’re going to attack Nintendo, how about you have a little thing called: Common Sense. You didn’t prove anything and everything you said was wrong while I said everything factual. Get out.

@internet traveler That isn’t the reason dude stop lying

@internet traveler That isn’t the reason dude stop lying

@internet traveler They don’t have hypocritical views on copyright and no, it isn’t because people liked them as kids. That could be said for every company

@internet traveler They don’t have hypocritical views on copyright and no, it isn’t because people liked them as kids. That could be said for every company

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Frighteningly accurate

@Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita Frighteningly accurate

It's just like my favorite pop culture mathematical equation: Disney + Apple = Nintendo.

It's just like my favorite pop culture mathematical equation: Disney + Apple = Nintendo.

Franklin Brooks stopped commenting on PS Vita

@copperCity17 That wasn't even the point of the video, the vast majority of products are good, it's just that the fans are oblivious to their trashy business practices.

@copperCity17 That wasn't even the point of the video, the vast majority of products are good, it's just that the fans are oblivious to their trashy business practices.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is the funny sounding italian stereotype who jumps on poop colored mushroom monsters and fights a giant dragon (who has a boston accent in the game about global warming) on a regular basis in the acid trip landscape that is the mushroom kingdom (where hills literally have eyes and mushroom people get turned into bricks on a constant basis) because they both have a crush on the blonde haired air head. He rides dinosaurs, is sometimes a furry, can shoot fire balls when he eats flowers, has gone into space twice, is good at basically every sport and has his own board game. He is "the" Mickey Mouse of the gaming industry, is an awful brother to Luigi and is a casual gamer's franchise of choice due to the accessible gameplay and difficulty of (nearly) every title in his franchise. Also, he races in go-karts sometimes with his friends, enemies and baby version of himself, and he gets kidnapped by a ghost every now and then so his objectively better younger brother (who actually has some sort of personality) can come and rescue him.

Where's my five dollars?

@GodZpeed X7 Jesus Christ, you're the real deal, huh? I thought you were just shitposting and trolling people.

@GodZpeed X7 Jesus Christ, you're the real deal, huh? I thought you were just shitposting and trolling people.

@Haruhiro Grimgar I find it funny that earthbound is mentioned when Mother 3 is clearly one of if the most meaningful Nintendo story

@Haruhiro Grimgar I find it funny that earthbound is mentioned when Mother 3 is clearly one of if the most meaningful Nintendo story

@Hellafraid God no. You can replace Mario with a red circle or the Dunkin Donuts logo and nothing changes. You can change Bowser for Ganondorf, Peach, or a twig and nothing changes. You can change Peach to be Daisy, Rosalina, a bra, a f"cking rock and nothing changes. There is no exploration of themes or philosophies, no characters to connect with, no majour story elements or events.

Every person who tries to defend Mario I meet in person I offer $5 if they can describe any level in detail. And none are successful because Mario is the most forgettable type of game and series. If it wasn't for the lobotomites that never grow up after playing his games his series would be lost to time out of the collective consciousness.

@Hellafraid God no. You can replace Mario with a red circle or the Dunkin Donuts logo and nothing changes. You can change Bowser for Ganondorf, Peach, or a twig and nothing changes. You can change Peach to be Daisy, Rosalina, a bra, a f"cking rock and nothing changes. There is no exploration of themes or philosophies, no characters to connect with, no majour story elements or events.

Every person who tries to defend Mario I meet in person I offer $5 if they can describe *any* level in detail. And none are successful because Mario is the most forgettable type of game and series. If it wasn't for the lobotomites that never grow up after playing his games his series would be lost to time out of the collective consciousness.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is a meaningful platformer

@Haruhiro Grimgar Mario is a meaningful platformer

I see Nintendo as the Disney of Japan, was part of some of the greatest things but is also one of the worst offenders regarding consumer respect.

I see Nintendo as the Disney of Japan, was part of some of the greatest things but is also one of the worst offenders regarding consumer respect.

@Gats T not to be bias but i swear some companies do better than apple in making phones, computers, tablets, and even earbuds. i like the macbook and others like thinkpads for example right, not everything apple does is "good". music related stuff on the other hand is why i stay with apple (not saying im a fanboy here btw) for my use.

Nintendo won the switch console than their DS line so they should try to support the switch as much to giving fun, i can tell they’re behind on specs wise than their games.

@Gats T not to be bias but i swear some companies do better than apple in making phones, computers, tablets, and even earbuds. i like the macbook and others like thinkpads for example right, not everything apple does is "good". music related stuff on the other hand is why i stay with apple (not saying im a fanboy here btw) for my use.

Nintendo won the switch console than their DS line so they should try to support the switch as much to giving fun, i can tell they’re behind on specs wise than their games.

@GodZpeed X7  Dude many of your arguments on this entire comment section has amounted to dead air as you make a bunch of claims without backing them up or doing the equivalent of "lalalalala I'm not listening" I am a fan of Nintendo and is able to realize its faults just like everyone else here and if you're going to ignore them at least listen to another fan.

Wii U:
Hate to break it to you but In terms of power, Nintendo has been behind Playstation and Xbox for YEARS now. If the Wii U was good then why did it sell poorly and it's exclusives couldn't save the hole Nintendo dug for themselves. The biggest thing that keeps Nintendo on the map at this point are they're damn good exclusives and those who worship Nintendo.  I know that power isn't everything but to pretend the Wii U is beyond criticism is ludicrous.

Stories:
Speaking of stories only a few nintendo games with memorable stories are thought of today. Even then besides Mother/Earthbound, and Zelda to a lesser extent (Kirby is more of a game with extensive lore instead of thrilling stories) they often immediately cower with the thought of a more story based game come the next installment.

Fanbase:
The Nintendo fanbase can be far from chill. Look at the Pokemon Community after Sword and Shield. Both sides of the argument went rabbid over each other. While Gamefreak pretty much went off scott free despite some of the shadier practices and how Nintendo has unintentionally bred a culture of complacency. Hell the fact that you're going into threads and doing what you are doing right now to defend Nintendo shows how they aren't "Chill". In fact it's gone past pre-fallout 76/4 Bethesda Fanboy in how much praise and defence Nintendo gets to the point where I can see them coming out with their own Fallout 76 or Mulan 2019 without a hitch. The Smash Community is still apart of the Nintendo community no matter how you slice it an there has been a list of sins they have done ranging from sexual misconduct, to harassing a fan who wanted a character to be in Unltimate to the point of suicide as if we are the Steven Universe fandom.

Price:
In terms of pricing Nintendo definitely has a problem with overpricing. Before all of the updates Kirby Star Allies was basically unfinished and thus wasn't worth $60. Pokemon Sword and shield base game costs more than its predecessors yet has less polished content that its predecessors boasted yet somehow is asking for more money for DLC one of which is mediocre at best while the other one is onto something.

On the other hand, Skyward Sword HD is starting to look like it's making minimal differences and a quality of life change behind a $20 piece of plastic which seemed ok...until Sonic Colors Ultimate was revealed being priced the same as the original but is having more content, apparently some remixed songs, a collector's edition that adds only cosmetics and a keychain How in the hell is Sonic Colors Ultimate a game being handled by SEGA a company that has been licking its death bed for years now able squeeze out something like that while Nintendo one of the richest companies in Japan of all places can't do a better job.

Outside of that you have their older games that still can be seen in retail stores for their original prices.

Modding:
Modding is rarely crucial to a game's success but they tend to help in ballooning its popularity. Minecraft and Skyrim are a testament to that statement. Minecraft wouldn't have put on the map if it weren't for YouTubers and the modding scene. Skyrim and Oblivion kind of necessitates a mod to fix many game breaking bugs while also having many anticipated mods that if they turn out to be what they are promised could be as big as a triple A game. Hell mods are why Skyrim is still being talked about (that and the many essays condemning the game for being shallow but whatever). There hasn't been much info on The Elder Scrolls 6 so modding is the next best thing to keep people's mind off of the game's unknown release date.

 SEGA was in a bad place after Boom so the fact that they hired many indie modders of their games to make an official game helped put SEGA on a slow recovery point. Modding and games have a symbiotic relationship maybe a game can survive without modding but a modding community is basically free advertising especially since all mods required a purchased copy of the game to use.

Publicity:
If you knew anything about the realm of media then you do know that publicity is everything. If you can't maintain good public relations ESPECIALLY if you're a new company then expect to go bankrupt in a matter of time. Sure many companies have reached a point where public relations aren't an end all be all but they weren't like this from the start. And I guarantee if they pulled the shit they do now back when they were new then they would have died out or in some cases be lawfully shut down. Publicity is especially important for Indie creators as even the smallest of allegations could cause your image to bleed to the point of little recovery.

If you're going to be this defensive about Nintendo, at least be coherent and provide better examples dude.

@Robert Harris bruh that's gotta be the stupidest take i've ever seen

@Robert Harris bruh that's gotta be the stupidest take i've ever seen

@Gats T the only reason they offer joycon repairs in a select few regions is because they had to dodge a lawsuit

@Gats T the only reason they offer joycon repairs in a select few regions is because they had to dodge a lawsuit

Nintendo is the Disney of videogames<br>They’re allowed to pump out a stream a shlock and have hypocritical views on copyright because people liked them as kids

Nintendo is the Disney of videogames
They’re allowed to pump out a stream a shlock and have hypocritical views on copyright because people liked them as kids

@Robert Harris actually zelda botw has nothing to do with assasins creed. It was made by the zelda team and the xenoblade team. They had a bigger inspiration on xenoblade chronicles x than assasins creed. The only thing they eventually take inspiration in assassin Creed is the towers that reveal the card system.

@Robert Harris actually zelda botw has nothing to do with assasins creed. It was made by the zelda team and the xenoblade team. They had a bigger inspiration on xenoblade chronicles x than assasins creed. The only thing they eventually take inspiration in assassin Creed is the towers that reveal the card system.

if you're talking about jailbreaking, they never managed to get around it and turn it into a law and it even turned into a special exception that says "yes, you can jailbreak your idevice"

if you're talking about jailbreaking, they never managed to get around it and turn it into a law and it even turned into a special exception that says "yes, you can jailbreak your idevice"

@GodZpeed X7II  And You couldn't even name 5 Nintendo games and multiple games you mentioned have the most minimalistic story possible.

Xenoblade & Super Mario RPG weren't made by Nintendo. Just published by them. Saying Nintendo games have good stories and then citing a game made by Square Enix is as disingenuous as you can get. If you want to say Nintendo consoles have games with good stories and writing on them, that is a very defensible position. There is a reason the 3DS is known as a JRPG machine and it is not because you can play dogsh"t Pokemon games on it. The GBA and DS also have incredible 3rd party libraries from studios who rely heavily on their writers (Xseed, Atlus, Square Enix, etc.)

Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the entirety of the majour story events told within the game. Everything else is just killing meaningless mute bosses and running around.

Earthbound was released a horrifically long time ago that Nintendo treats as an embarrasing mistake they don't like to mention outside of Smash. But it obviously resonates with many so I will give you it.

Star Fox 64 and Ocarina of Time has an incredibly weak story and set of characters/dialogue. There is no majour philosophy themes between or motivating characters. There is a reason Link is known as "Hyah boy" and the only lines of dialogue and story immortalized amongst Nintendo gamers from Star Fox is "Do a barrel roll" and "Slippy needs help." Otherwise the villains have no motivation beyond "I am evil" or "I want to rule the universe for no particular reason." The heroes don't have any strong motivators other than they want to "stop the bad guy." And neither game even has humour or drama to rely on. What is there to hold onto, what is their to gain, what is there to learn from in these games?

@GodZpeed X7II  And You couldn't even name 5 *Nintendo* games and multiple games you mentioned have the most minimalistic story possible.

Xenoblade & Super Mario RPG weren't made by Nintendo. Just published by them. Saying Nintendo games have good stories and then citing a game made by Square Enix is as disingenuous as you can get. If you want to say Nintendo consoles have games with good stories and writing on them, that is a very defensible position. There is a reason the 3DS is known as a JRPG machine and it is not because you can play dogsh"t Pokemon games on it. The GBA and DS also have incredible 3rd party libraries from studios who rely heavily on their writers (Xseed, Atlus, Square Enix, etc.)

Next, Super Metroid's peak of storytelling is the Baby Metroid from Metroid 2 saves you and then dies. That is the *entirety* of the majour story events told within the game. Everything else is just killing meaningless mute bosses and running around.

Earthbound was released a horrifically long time ago that Nintendo treats as an embarrasing mistake they don't like to mention outside of Smash. But it obviously resonates with many so I will give you it.

Star Fox 64 and Ocarina of Time has an incredibly weak story and set of characters/dialogue. There is no majour philosophy themes between or motivating characters. There is a reason Link is known as "Hyah boy" and the only lines of dialogue and story immortalized amongst Nintendo gamers from Star Fox is "Do a barrel roll" and "Slippy needs help." Otherwise the villains have no motivation beyond "I am evil" or "I want to rule the universe for no particular reason." The heroes don't have any strong motivators other than they want to "stop the bad guy." And neither game even has humour or drama to rely on. What is there to hold onto, what is their to gain, what is there to learn from in these games?

Except they don’t torture their employees

Except they don’t torture their employees

@Sagivaleon the guy seriously must be a basement dweller or some shit, i can smell the grease through my screen.

I hope he is baiting

@Sagivaleon the guy seriously must be a basement dweller or some shit, i can smell the grease through my screen.

I hope he is baiting

@Gats T "The GameCube was the most powerful console of its time". Nope, the Xbox was.

I'm not going to argue about it here, but emp should've touched on Nintendo fans and their awful revisionism when it comes to Nintendo's place in the history of video games, and how their "fans" have paraded a lot of BS about the company. Be it the actual hardware prowess compared to their past competition (which in some cases DID affect the libraries of the console), or how they "SAVED THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY FROM THE CRASH THAT KILLED ALL VIDEO GAMES" in the mid 80s. I think this revisionism has partially played into the undying sycophantism with the company in the present.

@Gats T Malfunctioning joycons are not worth 80 federal reserve notes, just as their busted online service (which ate ass even back to the Wii when it was free) isn't worth 2 Andrew Jacksons per year.

@Gats T Malfunctioning joycons are not worth 80 federal reserve notes, just as their busted online service (which ate ass even back to the Wii when it was free) isn't worth 2 Andrew Jacksons per year.

@Random Yeah no I’m actually the one who’s being factual while you’re over here spreading misinformation. No you can’t count any number of polygons in an average switch game.

@Random Yeah no I’m actually the one who’s being factual while you’re over here spreading misinformation. No you can’t count any number of polygons in an average switch game.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no it isn’t a sub par console and it CAN run properly. Everything you said is factually wrong

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no it isn’t a sub par console and it CAN run properly. Everything you said is factually wrong

@Haruhiro Grimgar NO ONE is saying they expect Witcher 3 to run on an IPad and that comparison doesn’t make any sense. And no Nintendo fans have a good reason to factually say it’s acceptable to play a game (that isn’t even considered a masterpiece by many) on a hybrid console that has great power

@Haruhiro Grimgar NO ONE is saying they expect Witcher 3 to run on an IPad and that comparison doesn’t make any sense. And no Nintendo fans have a good reason to factually say it’s acceptable to play a game (that isn’t even considered a masterpiece by many) on a hybrid console that has great power

@Haruhiro Grimgar It does NOT have worse looking textures compared to any other release of the game because the textures are actually better

@Haruhiro Grimgar It does NOT have worse looking textures compared to any other release of the game because the textures are actually better

@Haruhiro Grimgar It doesn’t cap out at 780p and both DO stay at that resolution most of the time

@Haruhiro Grimgar It doesn’t cap out at 780p and both DO stay at that resolution most of the time

@Haruhiro Grimgar No it CAN maintain 60fps in cities and the most common areas in the fake and no, old consoles DO have that issue

@Haruhiro Grimgar No it CAN maintain 60fps in cities and the most common areas in the fake and no, old consoles DO have that issue

@Haruhiro Grimgar It is NOT gross misinformation about Witcher 3. Yes it CAN maintain 20 to even 60fps

@Haruhiro Grimgar It is NOT gross misinformation about Witcher 3. Yes it CAN maintain 20 to even 60fps

@GodZpeed X7II Are you sure now, they have a section in Universal Studio's Japan based on one of their IPs?

@GodZpeed X7II Are you sure now, they have a section in Universal Studio's Japan based on one of their IPs?

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no. I’ll take New Leaf anyday compared to the bullshit you’re saying. They have a good list of features and character. Accept it

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no. I’ll take New Leaf anyday compared to the bullshit you’re saying. They have a good list of features and character. Accept it

@GodZpeed X7II Provide me 5 examples of excellent Nintendo games in terms of story. And it has to be <b>Nintendo</b> games.

@GodZpeed X7II Provide me 5 examples of excellent Nintendo games in terms of story. And it has to be *Nintendo* games.

@Haruhiro Grimgar  I will say that Pokémon is amazing, Mario is a meaningful Platformer, Samus Returns isn’t dogshit and BOTW is a more meaningful and lasting experience. This is fact no matter how much bullshit you try to spout

@Haruhiro Grimgar  I will say that Pokémon is amazing, Mario is a meaningful Platformer, Samus Returns isn’t dogshit and BOTW is a more meaningful and lasting experience. This is fact no matter how much bullshit you try to spout

@Haruhiro Grimgar Also no they are NOT anti consumer unlike Microsoft and Sony. And they are NOT the most anti consumer AAA company in the market as again Sony and Microsoft would like to say hi

@Haruhiro Grimgar Also no they are NOT anti consumer unlike Microsoft and Sony. And they are NOT the most anti consumer AAA company in the market as again Sony and Microsoft would like to say hi

@Haruhiro Grimgar Never have they ONCE tried to lock you out of any console changes and never stopped fans to interact with the product. That’s all in your head

@Haruhiro Grimgar Never have they ONCE tried to lock you out of any console changes and never stopped fans to interact with the product. That’s all in your head

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no you can play SMT and factually state that Nintendo has great stories

@Haruhiro Grimgar Yeah no you can play SMT and factually state that Nintendo has great stories

@Haruhiro Grimgar Pokémon does NOT have terrible stories and alien dialogue.

@Haruhiro Grimgar Pokémon does NOT have terrible stories and alien dialogue.

@Haruhiro Grimgar They have NEVER held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium and they never did it for decades as they excelled in that

@Haruhiro Grimgar They have NEVER held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium and they never did it for decades as they excelled in that

@Haruhiro Grimgar Nintendo has ALWAYS been competent when it comes to stories and you’re wrong for even thinking otherwise

@Haruhiro Grimgar Nintendo has ALWAYS been competent when it comes to stories and you’re wrong for even thinking otherwise

@Angry Pepe They don’t crank out any dogshit. Most of the time they crank out great games and good hardware

@Angry Pepe They don’t crank out any dogshit. Most of the time they crank out great games and good hardware

@Angry Pepe  They aren’t soulless dogshit dude. Modern paper Mario, Pokémon aren’t bad. And the switch hardware isn’t shitty and doesn’t constantly break

@Angry Pepe  They aren’t soulless dogshit dude. Modern paper Mario, Pokémon aren’t bad. And the switch hardware isn’t shitty and doesn’t constantly break

@Davethe3rd Nintendo doesn’t have an iron fisted grip

@Davethe3rd Nintendo doesn’t have an iron fisted grip

@GodZpeed X7 And that is gross misinformation about The Witcher 3. It can't even maintain 20fps in cities or some of the most common areas in the game while old consoles don't have that issue. It also caps out at 720p and both doesn't stay at that resolution most of the time and has worse looking textures compared to any other release of the game. The Switch is a glorified Ipad in terms of power and no one expects the Witcher 3 to even be playable on an Ipad. Yet for some reason Nintendo fans still think it is acceptable to play a masterpiece on a sub-par console that can't even run it properly.

@Gats T Play New Leaf then compare the list of features and characters.

@Gats T Play New Leaf then compare the list of features and characters.

@GodZpeed X7 Also, no Nintendo game is ever reviewed on for the basis of its story, its visuals, its refinement of gameplay ideas, and it is pretty much never compared against its competition because Nintendo fans play nothing else.

Play any other Monster Catcher JRPG and then tell me Pokemon is amazing. Play Celeste and tell me Mario is a meaningful platformer. Play Ori or Hollow Knight or Axiom Verge and tell me Samus Returns isn't dog sh"t. Play The Witcher 3 and then tell me BotW is a more meaningful and lasting experience.

@GodZpeed X7 Nintendo has the weakest hardware on the market. They never put their games on sale. They specifically try to lock you out of any console changes or letting fans interract with the product. And are the most anti-consumer AAA company in the market currently.

@GodZpeed X7 Nintendo has the weakest hardware on the market. They never put their games on sale. They specifically try to lock you out of any console changes or letting fans interract with the product. And are the most anti-consumer AAA company in the market currently.

@Gats T Nintendo has never once even been competent when it comes to stories. They have held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium for decades at this point.

When their flagship JRPG is POKEMON, the only JRPG known for having terrible stories and alien dialogue, there is an issue. You even mentioned SMT, you can't play that series and think Nintendo has decent stories. It is like comparing caviar to dog turds.

@Gats T Nintendo has never once even been competent when it comes to stories. They have held gaming back from being seen as an art form and storytelling medium for *decades* at this point.

When their flagship JRPG is POKEMON, the only JRPG known for having terrible stories and alien dialogue, there is an issue. You even mentioned SMT, you can't play that series and think Nintendo has decent stories. It is like comparing caviar to dog turds.

@GodZpeed X7II dude are you ok? You sound like someone who's being held hostage by Nintendo

@GodZpeed X7II dude are you ok? You sound like someone who's being held hostage by Nintendo

Or the Walt Disney Company of videogames, even way before WDC became a thing. Given Nintendo's ancient history.

Or the Walt Disney Company of videogames, even way before WDC became a thing. Given Nintendo's ancient history.

@Phanstalgia hey, they never said all of their products were good. I can think of numerous examples of soulless dogshit that they make. See: modern pokemon games, modern paper mario, """"remakes"""" that are really just ports with slightly updated graphics, and the shitty switch hardware that constantly breaks. <br>What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out.

@Phanstalgia hey, they never said all of their products were good. I can think of numerous examples of soulless dogshit that they make. See: modern pokemon games, modern paper mario, """"remakes"""" that are really just ports with slightly updated graphics, and the shitty switch hardware that constantly breaks.
What they mean is nintendo still knows how to crank out some really good games, amidst all of the dogshit they also crank out.

I think Nintendo is more like Disney with their family friendly image complete with a mascot that dresses in red and has a high squeaky voice. As well as their iron fisted grip on every single piece of their IP, no matter how obscure or forgotten.

I think Nintendo is more like Disney with their family friendly image complete with a mascot that dresses in red and has a high squeaky voice. As well as their iron fisted grip on every single piece of their IP, no matter how obscure or forgotten.

@GodZpeed X7II  and yet you are still doing it. You can't lie old man

@GodZpeed X7II  and yet you are still doing it. You can't lie old man

@Ardalido's foundation Yeah no the switch doesn’t turn anyone into slaves. If you actually think that, you need to go see someone

@Ardalido's foundation Yeah no the switch doesn’t turn anyone into slaves. If you actually think that, you need to go see someone

@Ardalido's foundation Switch isn’t unaccessible shit unlike Microsoft and Sony’s PlayStation and Xbox

@Ardalido's foundation Switch isn’t unaccessible shit unlike Microsoft and Sony’s PlayStation and Xbox

@Ardalido's foundation PS vita isn’t better than switch and PSP still isn’t a good choice and emulators doesn’t make it a better console

@Ardalido's foundation PS vita isn’t better than switch and PSP still isn’t a good choice and emulators doesn’t make it a better console

Unlike Apple, their products are actually good tho...

Unlike Apple, their products are actually good tho...

oi Matt! :) Jamais pensei que ia encontrar um Youtuber BR por aqui mas é uma ótima surpresa!

oi Matt! :) Jamais pensei que ia encontrar um Youtuber BR por aqui mas é uma ótima surpresa!

@GodZpeed X7 ignoring the fact that consoles are the reason why games are shit now, switch is still unaccessible shit that turns you into slave

@GodZpeed X7 ignoring the fact that consoles are the reason why games are shit now, switch is still unaccessible shit that turns you into slave

@Алена Макарова actually the switch is very good for the price.

@Алена Макарова actually the switch is very good for the price.

@Gats T even ps vita is better than switch
You know why psp still can be a good choice?
E M U L A T O R S
Better games, more games, same mobility
It can run even your nintendo 64 garbo tho

@Gats T even ps vita is better than switch
You know why psp still can be a good choice?
E M U L A T O R S
Better games, more games, same mobility
It can run even your nintendo 64 garbo tho

This is just gold saw one fanboy having pure meltdown and reply to almost everyone even if it's not even part of the argument.

And huh interesting liking your own multiple account...Ironic

This is just gold saw one fanboy having pure meltdown and reply to almost everyone even if it's not even part of the argument.

And huh interesting liking your own multiple account...Ironic

@Sho  They aren’t a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney and there ARE many good parts and there were and still are that many to begin with

@Sho  They aren’t a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney and there ARE many good parts and there were and still are that many to begin with

@Pedro Henrique Dos Santos Vales So does Microsoft and Sony and they don’t get crucified for it.

@Pedro Henrique Dos Santos Vales So does Microsoft and Sony and they don’t get crucified for it.

They're a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney without really taking anything good from them (which already wasn't a lot to begin with).

They're a combination of the worst parts of Apple and Disney without really taking anything good from them (which already wasn't a lot to begin with).

@David Singleton Also thank you at least you admit yourself being harsh that’s fine.

@David Singleton Also thank you at least you admit yourself being harsh that’s fine.

@David Singleton Yes it does change the fact as MANY COMPANIES SUCH AS MICROSOFT AND SONY MAKE BAD DECISIONS

@David Singleton Yes it does change the fact as MANY COMPANIES SUCH AS MICROSOFT AND SONY MAKE BAD DECISIONS

That's the thing,they will earn money doing whatever they want because at the end of the day,they are Nintendo,big fan also.

That's the thing,they will earn money doing whatever they want because at the end of the day,they are Nintendo,big fan also.

@GodZpeed X7 ok, I may have been a bit harsh on that comment. But doesn't change the fact they make bad decisions.

@GodZpeed X7 ok, I may have been a bit harsh on that comment. But doesn't change the fact they make bad decisions.

ooh thats random u beeing here love ur vids

ooh thats random u beeing here love ur vids

I’m going to say one thing and then I’m leaving out here.

 I don’t care what kind of bullshit you people always want to say or try to do, Nintendo is a great company that has great games, great hardware and has a respectable fanbase and they don’t always have the most loyal fans as there are many fans who are more loyal to their brands and they do some shady stuff too.

Nintendo is a gaming company through and through, they’re here to make great games, release good hardware and make a profit and there is nothing wrong with that. Every video gaming company is doing that and I don’t see any dislikes from them.

Only shows how biased people are because they really don’t want Nintendo to succeed.

You guys are hypocrites and nothing you say or do is going to change that fact.

If you really want Nintendo to stop their "business practices" then how about you first stop whining online because all of that whining is not going to do anything.

Stop acting like Nintendo is the one with bad practices when EVERY company like your precious Microsoft and Sony have bad practices that makes Nintendo’s look like an everyday jog.

Nintendo isn’t a bad company.

This is an objective fact. I’m out.

@Phanstalgia Nah you’ll take the bias as an insult because the shit you’re saying is factually false

And it’s funny how you keep mentioning Nintendo as if they are the only ones when Microsoft and Sony do the SAME THING you claim Nintendo allegedly is. Note I said ALLEGEDLY

@Phanstalgia Nah you’ll take the bias as an insult because the shit you’re saying is factually false

And it’s funny how you keep mentioning Nintendo as if they are the only ones when Microsoft and Sony do the SAME THING you claim Nintendo allegedly is. Note I said ALLEGEDLY

@melvin storbes Apple does copy strike videos on its product and they don’t pay any attention to details and they do make good prices to features ratio unlike Nintendo. Fact.

@melvin storbes Apple does copy strike videos on its product and they don’t pay any attention to details and they do make good prices to features ratio unlike Nintendo. Fact.

@GodZpeed X7 If bias means I think less lazy and low quality products are better, then I'll take my "bias" as a compliment

@GodZpeed X7 If bias means I think less lazy and low quality products are better, then I'll take my "bias" as a compliment

At least Apple doesn't copystrike videos on it's products and pay attention to details while also making a good price to features ratio that beats Samsung.

At least Apple doesn't copystrike videos on it's products and pay attention to details while also making a good price to features ratio that beats Samsung.

Unlike Nintendo though, Apple doesn't misuse their fandom to the same extent.

Unlike Nintendo though, Apple doesn't misuse their fandom to the same extent.

Oh shit we just saw fanatics having meltdown in this reply section.

Oh shit we just saw fanatics having meltdown in this reply section.

zelda and mario are amazing games. nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2.

zelda and mario are amazing games. nintendo could burn my house down and i'd still probably buy breath of the wild 2.

@GodZpeed X7 So you are saying that disallowing modding and other content creation (at the expense of the creator of the content not nitendo) isn't a shitty business practice? Your turning away free publicity and publicity matters. Id argue that's why ultimate has been so succesful. Mods boost games popularity to veteren gamers. it helps keep a title interesting until the next title is churned out. That's an objective fact.

@GodZpeed X7 So you are saying that disallowing modding and other content creation (at the expense of the creator of the content not nitendo) isn't a shitty business practice? Your turning away free publicity and publicity matters. Id argue that's why ultimate has been so succesful. Mods boost games popularity to veteren gamers. it helps keep a title interesting until the next title is churned out. That's an objective fact.

@Gats T they make a good product for the absolute dogshit hardware limitations they set on themselves because they don't want to go for other platforms.

@Gats T they make a good product for the absolute dogshit hardware limitations they set on themselves because they don't want to go for other platforms.

@Gats T I'm not here to argue anything but it's very ironic to see one of you here, in the comments of this video

@Gats T I'm not here to argue anything but it's very ironic to see one of you here, in the comments of this video

@GodZpeed X7 yes there is. Games like doom have visualy noticable lower LOD distances. There is literal video and photographic proof of this.

@GodZpeed X7 yes there is. Games like doom have visualy noticable lower LOD distances. There is literal video and photographic proof of this.

@Robotic Venom nah graphics are not that important. a good example of this is the total war franchise, where a 20 year old game (med 2)has a larger multiplayer playerbase then all but 1(TWW2) of their other games.

@Robotic Venom nah graphics are not that important. a good example of this is the total war franchise, where a 20 year old game (med 2)has a larger multiplayer playerbase then all but 1(TWW2) of their other games.

@Gats T a games value still naturaly declines over time...

@Gats T a games value still naturaly declines over time...

You can blame americans for buying Apple everywhere else in the world the consumers actually have a brain

You can blame americans for buying Apple everywhere else in the world the consumers actually have a brain

@GodZpeed X7 You seem to be a bit of a nitendo fanboy, but what are your thoughts of their objectively shitty business practices (like child labor to make the switch) or stupid public relations moves (discouraging modding and targeting content creators)?

@GodZpeed X7 You seem to be a bit of a nitendo fanboy, but what are your thoughts of their objectively shitty business practices (like child labor to make the switch) or stupid public relations moves (discouraging modding and targeting content creators)?

Sony is more like the apple of vidya in my opinion

Sony is more like the apple of vidya in my opinion

@Robotic Venom You mean that because the games are $60 they're inherently bad? I agree that the lack of sales is not good for Nintendo, but that's because they know that quality deserves a good price. When a game goes from $60 to $20 in a matter of months, that just makes me think it wasn't worth what I paid for it.

@Robotic Venom You mean that because the games are $60 they're inherently bad? I agree that the lack of sales is not good for Nintendo, but that's because they know that quality deserves a good price. When a game goes from $60 to $20 in a matter of months, that just makes me think it wasn't worth what I paid for it.

@Gats T you understand not being able to do raytracing or 4k isnt isnt peoples issue right? Its the lack of a decent frame rate. Which isnt a graphical issue but is a control issue. And other things like LOD distance.

@Gats T you understand not being able to do raytracing or 4k isnt isnt peoples issue right? Its the lack of a decent frame rate. Which isnt a graphical issue but is a control issue. And other things like LOD distance.

@Gats T never said it was worthless, but given the online capabilities and game prices the switch is more of a sad value that they'd inject such hardware into a console, it's insulting.

This isn't the 2000's anymore lmao. It's literally limiting their own ability to add games, because that shit is so slow. They barely got Witcher 3 to work after optimizing it to the galaxy and back, and it looks like shit vs a basic console edition from 2012

@Gats T never said it was worthless, but given the online capabilities and game prices the switch is more of a sad value that they'd inject such hardware into a console, it's insulting.

This isn't the 2000's anymore lmao. It's literally limiting their own ability to add games, because that shit is so slow. They barely got Witcher 3 to work after optimizing it to the galaxy and back, and it looks like shit vs a basic console edition from 2012

@GodZpeed X7 prove anything youre saying.

@GodZpeed X7 prove anything youre saying.

@GodZpeed X7  Here are a few overpraised Nintendo games or Nintendo games that have aged like milk:

Mario 64: boot-out system sucks. Imagine if in God of War 2018 every time you pick up an important loot-item your sent back to the bridge before you can finish exploring the entire level.

Ocarina of Time: Z-targeting combat is just really shitty Dark Souls lock-on combat. Puzzles are far more basic than they're hyped (*coughs water temple *coughs*).

Mario Odyssey: Very little meaningful content. The only game where Nintendo forgets their "4-step" rule to explore a gameplay concept, so it's basically a Ubisoft game reskinned as a Mario game, where the collectable feathers are moons.

Breath of the Wild: I actually really like this game, but it still has serious problems that are being overlooked. Too low enemy/gameplay variety. Armor is way too op (64 armor cancels out exactly 64 (weapon damage + goblin unarmed damage)). Dungeons (beasts / castle) don't scale with you. Weapon durability. Shrines are god awful, and they waste so unnecessary much time by NOT letting you make the choice for stamina/health right there in shrine.

@GodZpeed X7 About as chill as anybody else

@GodZpeed X7 About as chill as anybody else

@Creepy Lobster if you hue shift emplemon's avatar to green (famously the color of the sempsins) it will be green, just like a lemon that's yet to mature

@Creepy Lobster if you hue shift emplemon's avatar to green (famously the color of the sempsins) it will be green, just like a lemon that's yet to mature

@Robotic Venom Power isn't everything when it comes to consoles. The GameCube was the most powerful console of its time, yet it did the worst out of any of that generation, because it didn't have the games to back it up. The Playstation 2 was objectively weaker, but it's constant quality games and the fact that it could function as a DVD player made it sell more. Much like the PS2, the Switch has great games, and is portable, so you can enjoy those games anywhere, anytime. Just because it can't do raytracing or 4k doesn't make what it has worthless.

@GodZpeed X7 how is a completely new titles a PS4 game? Explain to me how the new god of war or uncharted, is a PS4 game? You're literally making zero sense

@GodZpeed X7 how is a completely new titles a PS4 game? Explain to me how the new god of war or uncharted, is a PS4 game? You're literally making zero sense

@GodZpeed X7 I didn't say you did, but it certainly hurts the game LMAO.

How are they not overpriced? Some games are literally RESKINS yet they sell at full MSRP, and even old titles and such will have ludicrous prices. Again, they almost NEVER have sales, unlike PS5 games and Xbox ganes

@GodZpeed X7 I didn't say you did, but it certainly hurts the game LMAO.

How are they not overpriced? Some games are literally RESKINS yet they sell at full MSRP, and even old titles and such will have ludicrous prices. Again, they almost NEVER have sales, unlike PS5 games and Xbox ganes

@GodZpeed X7 switch is better then what? 2014 smart phones?

God for war most definitely does, along with loads of other releases

@GodZpeed X7 switch is better then what? 2014 smart phones?

God for war most definitely does, along with loads of other releases

That's because their games are incredible. They have made more classics than anyone else and avoid the trends

That's because their games are incredible. They have made more classics than anyone else and avoid the trends

@GodZpeed X7 have you tried not being a fanboy and giving any objective proof to any statement?

@GodZpeed X7 have you tried not being a fanboy and giving any objective proof to any statement?

@GodZpeed X7 Come on man, I like Nintendo a lot, but its got problems, just like any other company.

@GodZpeed X7 Come on man, I like Nintendo a lot, but its got problems, just like any other company.

@Adin How is ACNH "borderline" unfinished?

@Adin How is ACNH "borderline" unfinished?

And for you that is brazillian knows that most of brazillians don't like Nintendo, to the point of despise it in comparison to PS and XBox. It is 10x more expensive to be a Nintendo costumer; harder, with less products available here.

You buy a Switch knowing all you are about to go through. Is unfortunate.

And for you that is brazillian knows that most of brazillians don't like Nintendo, to the point of despise it in comparison to PS and XBox. It is 10x more expensive to be a Nintendo costumer; harder, with less products available here.

You buy a Switch knowing all you are about to go through. Is unfortunate.

@Gats T Oh my lord, I can smell your unwashed neck beard through my phone

@Gats T Oh my lord, I can smell your unwashed neck beard through my phone

@Gats T iv never owned a playstation. Theres no games they habe i want to play.

@Gats T iv never owned a playstation. Theres no games they habe i want to play.

@Robotic Venom The way you word your opinions says to me you're pretty young. It may come as a shock to you, but graphics don't make the video game. In fact, I'd argue they're the least important aspect of the medium as a whole. Gameplay is what matters most, and when it comes to Sony AAA games especially, that's the last thing they care about. God of War 2018 is a poorly designed action game, especially on higher difficulties, with boring, middling combat that couldn't hold a candle to even the WORST character action games. Go try Devil May Cry 5, its gameplay will blow your mind. Switch games may not look the best, or have raytracing, but they have good gameplay, and much more variety than anything Sony has had in its past few years. The PS5 is a mess right now, and it only sells because of hype and scalping.

@Gats T 5 years from when they were released obviously... assassins creed 2 was made 12 years ago yet has better graphics(which i dont even say matter but still), gameplay, and story than BOTW.

@Gats T 5 years from when they were released obviously... assassins creed 2 was made 12 years ago yet has better graphics(which i dont even say matter but still), gameplay, and story than BOTW.

@Gats T not really though, every good game on the switch is either a port or is borderline unfinished like acnh besides a few outliers like botw.

@Gats T not really though, every good game on the switch is either a port or is borderline unfinished like acnh besides a few outliers like botw.

@Robert Harris Yeah, that's not even remotely close to accurate, and I'd say given that statement you probably treat Sony like the Nintendo fanboys treat Nintendo.

@Robert Harris Yeah, that's not even remotely close to accurate, and I'd say given that statement you probably treat Sony like the Nintendo fanboys treat Nintendo.

@GodZpeed X7 they're objectively shit hardware, look at the Wii It's hardware, or the original Wii, or the Nintendo switch being less powerful then a 2014 android smartphone. LMAO you're such a shill

@GodZpeed X7 they're objectively shit hardware, look at the Wii It's hardware, or the original Wii, or the Nintendo switch being less powerful then a 2014 android smartphone. LMAO you're such a shill

@gasai yuno Just like when youtube bans people for stupid reasons or no reason, just cause a company CAN do something legally doesn't mean they should and it doesn't mean people should stand for it just because "well umm they're a private company, they can do whatever they want".

Also lmao you're so contrarian and edgy, it's not like people might just buy their games because they actually LIKE their games, right?

@gasai yuno Just like when youtube bans people for stupid reasons or no reason, just cause a company CAN do something legally doesn't mean they should and it doesn't mean people should stand for it just because "well umm they're a private company, they can do whatever they want".

Also lmao you're so contrarian and edgy, it's not like people might just buy their games because they actually LIKE their games, right?

@gasai yuno thats literzly not even true. As long as you make no money off of it you can do basicaly anything you want. Unfortunatly in ajapan the laws are ass backwards and the people there have basicaly no rights when it comes to copywrites.

@gasai yuno thats literzly not even true. As long as you make no money off of it you can do basicaly anything you want. Unfortunatly in ajapan the laws are ass backwards and the people there have basicaly no rights when it comes to copywrites.

@Gats T yes. Not viewing a company and the products they make objectivly is literaly the problem with the casualization and reduction in qulity of the video game industry in the last decade+

@Gats T yes. Not viewing a company and the products they make objectivly is literaly the problem with the casualization and reduction in qulity of the video game industry in the last decade+

@Gats T lot less pretty then shit loads of upcoming PS5 releases. God of War destroys all, not even close. The releases are miles better then switch, especially since guess what, the games can have SALES, discounts, and worth while bundles. Switch games are horribly overpriced and pathetic, and look like SHIT vs raytraced PS5 games, lmao what a joke. Better off with a game streaming service from Xbox or Nvidia LMAO, talk about value and being able to play it on whatever, wherever(almost)

@Gats T lot less pretty then shit loads of upcoming PS5 releases. God of War destroys all, not even close. The releases are miles better then switch, especially since guess what, the games can have SALES, discounts, and worth while bundles. Switch games are horribly overpriced and pathetic, and look like SHIT vs raytraced PS5 games, lmao what a joke. Better off with a game streaming service from Xbox or Nvidia LMAO, talk about value and being able to play it on whatever, wherever(almost)

@Gats T BOTW is literaly just a watered down copy and paste of assassins creed but with a legwnd of zelda coat of paint over it and nintendo fans act like its a brand new state of the art experience thats never been done before.

@Gats T BOTW is literaly just a watered down copy and paste of assassins creed but with a legwnd of zelda coat of paint over it and nintendo fans act like its a brand new state of the art experience thats never been done before.

@Robert Harris <br>Yeah, and the switch came out... 4 years ago...

@Robert Harris
Yeah, and the switch came out... 4 years ago...

@nightmare4lol Eh, guess I am in that case

@nightmare4lol Eh, guess I am in that case

@Gats T they make a outdated product that moght of been impressive 5 years ago.

@Gats T they make a outdated product that moght of been impressive 5 years ago.

It isn't the " Law " it's the LAW. Plain and simple. You can't do what you want with a company product if they explicitly do not allow it or like it. That's why they've gotten or WOULD have successful lawsuits and have shut down their competition. So stop crying and get over it like the rest of the sheep that keep buying the shit they shovel.

It isn't the " Law " it's the LAW. Plain and simple. You can't do what you want with a company product if they explicitly do not allow it or like it. That's why they've gotten or WOULD have successful lawsuits and have shut down their competition. So stop crying and get over it like the rest of the sheep that keep buying the shit they shovel.

I also see them as the Disney of Japan. You dare make any fan work of Mario and just Mario, you're done goofed in their eyes...

I also see them as the Disney of Japan. You dare make any fan work of Mario and just Mario, you're done goofed in their eyes...

@copperCity17 <br>I'm a part of the problem for enjoying games I enjoy? It seems to me you're just hating the games that others like out of some need to stand out. I may not think Breath of The Wild is as amazing as it was on my first playthrough, but that doesn't mean I lack the capacity to make my own opinions on games.

@copperCity17
I'm a part of the problem for enjoying games I enjoy? It seems to me you're just hating the games that others like out of some need to stand out. I may not think Breath of The Wild is as amazing as it was on my first playthrough, but that doesn't mean I lack the capacity to make my own opinions on games.

A lot of people who work there like doing it not all of them are greedy also you don’t have to be a jerk about it, damn

A lot of people who work there like doing it not all of them are greedy also you don’t have to be a jerk about it, damn

@Spanky Pants <br>Aside from the drift, which has been addressed already where you can send them in to be fixed for free, there really isn't any problem with Joycons. Hell, after I sent them to be fixed, I've yet to have a problem with them again, which makes me think they replaced the stick with a less cheap part to prevent future problems. Of course, that's just my opinion, I don't actually know if they used a better part or I'm just lucky.

@Spanky Pants
Aside from the drift, which has been addressed already where you can send them in to be fixed for free, there really isn't any problem with Joycons. Hell, after I sent them to be fixed, I've yet to have a problem with them again, which makes me think they replaced the stick with a less cheap part to prevent future problems. Of course, that's just my opinion, I don't actually know if they used a better part or I'm just lucky.

@Ace 29 actually that’s perfect. Disney is revered for their IPs and yet as a company they’re pretty shitty, kinda like Nintendo.

@Ace 29 actually that’s perfect. Disney is revered for their IPs and yet as a company they’re pretty shitty, kinda like Nintendo.

@Gats T You're part of the problem then. Yes "Story" games do tend to get easy, but both Nintendo and "Story" get easy treatment for different. Except, as we saw with the Last of Us 2, easy treatment for "story" games isn't always guaranteed.

@Gats T You're part of the problem then. Yes "Story" games do tend to get easy, but both Nintendo and "Story" get easy treatment for different. Except, as we saw with the Last of Us 2, easy treatment for "story" games isn't always guaranteed.

@Gats T how are the switch joy cons a good product? How do you explain the wii u?

@Gats T how are the switch joy cons a good product? How do you explain the wii u?

I always thought of them as the Disney of the video game industry

I always thought of them as the Disney of the video game industry

I think they're more like Microsoft, their base product is good but they won't let you do anything to improve or customize it, you can only use it the way they want you to, hence why in Microsoft's case Linux is still widely used by professionals in the field.

I think they're more like Microsoft, their base product is good but they won't let you do anything to improve or customize it, you can only use it the way they want you to, hence why in Microsoft's case Linux is still widely used by professionals in the field.

Only diference is that nintendo makes good games, and that i cant just go to playstation and get the sameish product.<br>Fucking Nintendo

Only diference is that nintendo makes good games, and that i cant just go to playstation and get the sameish product.
Fucking Nintendo

@copperCity17 Eh, agree to disagree. I'd argue that more for Sony games in fact. Games like God of War 2018 and Last of Us get by on their stories and graphics, in terms of actual gameplay they're mediocre at best. Nintendo on the other hand, may lag behind in graphics and sometimes stories, but in terms of gameplay, they remain king, at least in my opinion.

@copperCity17 Eh, agree to disagree. I'd argue that more for Sony games in fact. Games like God of War 2018 and Last of Us get by on their stories and graphics, in terms of actual gameplay they're mediocre at best. Nintendo on the other hand, may lag behind in graphics and sometimes stories, but in terms of gameplay, they remain king, at least in my opinion.

@Алена Макарова <br>Maybe so, but it's the games that make a console, not the hardware itself. Why buy a PS5 when, 8 months after launch, it only JUST NOW got a game worth buying? I'd rather stick with my switch, which can play games I actually care about, and I can take around with me. I do wish that it was more powerful, but there's nothing I can do about it. Hopefully, they will make a more powerful version sometime soon, because Shin Megami Tensei 5 looks too beautiful for the system to run at a decent frame rate and I want that game to be the best it can be!

@Алена Макарова
Maybe so, but it's the games that make a console, not the hardware itself. Why buy a PS5 when, 8 months after launch, it only JUST NOW got a game worth buying? I'd rather stick with my switch, which can play games I actually care about, and I can take around with me. I do wish that it was more powerful, but there's nothing I can do about it. Hopefully, they will make a more powerful version sometime soon, because Shin Megami Tensei 5 looks too beautiful for the system to run at a decent frame rate and I want that game to be the best it can be!

@Phanstalgia > decent products <br>> 60$ wii port

@Phanstalgia > decent products
> 60$ wii port

@Gats T The overpraise nintendo games get is also the result of the same zealous fans Emplemon criticises. Nintendo games are rated on far lower standards than every other game. Like Donald Trump v. Biden.

@Gats T The overpraise nintendo games get is also the result of the same zealous fans Emplemon criticises. Nintendo games are rated on far lower standards than every other game. Like Donald Trump v. Biden.

Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game.

Nintendo sucks, but dammit they know how to make a game.

@Phanstalgia <br>Good for you, you made an observation people have been making for years now! You must feel so intelligent for thinking of that obvious thought! I'm so impressed!

@Phanstalgia
Good for you, you made an observation people have been making for years now! You must feel so intelligent for thinking of that obvious thought! I'm so impressed!

Nintendo, in my opinion, is also like the MLB in a sense: shitty dude running the business, but still making a shitton of money, and producing decent games

Nintendo, in my opinion, is also like the MLB in a sense: shitty dude running the business, but still making a shitton of money, and producing decent games

and emplemon's avatar has nothing to do with lemons

and emplemon's avatar has nothing to do with lemons

Unlike Apple though, they make a good product.

Unlike Apple though, they make a good product.