Over time my patience has worn thin with Nintendo.

1)	Joycons are awful. When they work when they’re nice, but I had to replace them three times. I don’t know if it’s Nintendo’s fault for continuing to make controllers with drift or mine for buying them three times. I did find a permanent fix for this: Using other controllers. Using a third-party peripheral I’m able to use the same Xbox 360 controller I’ve been using for a decade, and aside from lack of gyro controls, it works better than the joycons by far. But I guess this problem doesn’t exist because Nintendo says it doesn’t exist.
2)	Nintendo’s lack of sales or even price reduction on older games baffle me. Lots of other developers lower the prices of their games or put them in large sales. Nintendo is meanwhile content to sit on their mountain of games jealously guarding them like a dragon with their horde. Nintendo knows they have not only one of the largest vaults of games but cherished childhood games. I don’t mind if a company sells older games, hell I’ll pay some money for older SNES games. But selling them hiked prices when better alternatives exist (both in price and functionality) baffles me. Sega realized this and sold official ROMs of their games. This leads into the next point.
3)	If companies want to take down ROMs, then fine, but at the very minimum realize why the demand is there. There is always a subset of people who do this because it’s free, but a sizable portion also do it because there’s no option. Realizing Mario All-Stars then going “Tough shit, we’re not releasing these games for a long time after this” is appalling enough, but you have the gaul to release things that fans have improved a decade ago? Nintendo has one of the best development teams in the world, and you’re telling me they couldn’t add more functionality for their re-released games? When they have access to the bloody source code of the games AND their consoles?
4)	The treatment of fan remakes is completely unacceptable. Fans made the material as a labour of love but being told to fuck off with a C&D is unacceptable. Mods such as randomizers add a ton of replayability towards games. Sega realized how popular the Sonic modding scene is, and I sincerely believe that them releasing official sonic mods is a way of saying “Hey, you don’t need to go to those emulation sites. We got the ROMs for your right here for dirt cheap”. You’re not forced to play these games in a proprietary program, you can use them in whatever the hell you want. Hell, they get fans to make the best sonic game in years (Inspiring jealously in the team that used to make sonic).
5)	The switch itself is ageing. I love the Switch’s ability to play in portable mode, and after using it I would pay a decent amount to be able to do all these things on the go. The Switch cracks to let you run whatever you wanted were great, but sadly those were patched out so Halo on the go is no longer an option. A Switch Pro would’ve been great even if it just allowed me to play switch games at higher framerates. Sadly we didn’t get that, only an OLED model with a slighter bigger screen and bigger HD size. So when Valve decided to make their own Switch Pro, one with full compatibility with all my steam games and is capable of running every other game on Nintendo’s eshops (in addition to the entire NES/SNES/N64/GCN/WII/PS1/PS2/PS3/Xbox/Xbox360/Game Boy/Game Boy Advance/DS/3DS and possibly even Switch library) better than the switch can, then you better believe I’m getting that and only looking back for first-party titles such as Metroid Dread/Prime 4.

I’m also surprised that you didn’t talk about Nintendo’s controversy with rental law EmpLemon. Granted this happened in the era before Netflix, but Nintendo viciously attempted to go after Blockbuster’s throat for renting games. Nintendo even had as much impact on the laws regarding video game rentals in Japan as Disney had a hand in copyright law here.

Hey man what's the peripheral u use to get xbox controllers to work on switch?


There should be laws forcing companies to provide emulators for products they no longer support. Just like car manufacturers need to continue producing car parts or provide the plans to make them


Hey man, ive been watching your videos for around a year now, the first one i saw was your video on hungrybox.

I just wanted to say that i am always thrilled to see new content. Your videos are so well articulated, and i always feel entertained and informed watching them. The effort you must put in really shines through.

I could lavish you with more praise but that really sums up how impressed i am with your work.

Keep it up and thanks for the good times!


thank you for making this. someone needed to say it.


Only one month after this video released
Nintendo contacted the creators of project+ to shut it down
Once a downward spiral
Always a downward spiral

they contacted riptide to cancel p+ events


Pretty much. Hardcore Nintendo fanbois are so toxic and self defeating. They will NEVER question their god-like, sacred billion dollar corporation.

Speak with your money, don't feel compelled to support every product they pump out when they treat you like shit.


Gotta love how Nintendo fucks the Smash competitive scene raw while showering the Pokémon competitive scene with cash prizes, university scholarships, and all sorts of shit. Also I don't weep for Pokémon Uranium but the death of AM2R and ProjectM getting C&D'd was pure bullshit, they weren't for-profit, they were fan-projects fulfilling a niche that Nintendo refused to cater to.


As one wise rotten man once said.<br>"Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!"

As one wise rotten man once said.
"Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!"


great video. i love nintendo, but these practices are disgraceful


Possibly the bravest video to be released on Youtube. May the fans be merciful on your soul, heretic.


You make informative and entertaining content.


This video is a hard pill to swallow thanks for sharing it


Several years ago I made a point of removing myself from being too invested in any fandoms in general. Mostly because they lead to drama, both internally, and externally by people who make broad assumptions about otherwise unrelated people. The whole Smash v FGC crap is incredibly contrived and unrelated to reality.

I'm a fan of Fire Emblem, and a few other Nintendo made-series. I'm not a fan of the company's practices you talked about in the first half of the video, let alone Nintendo itself. The desire to label people as groups they vaguely identify and then superimpose the actions on otherwise unrelated people is unethical.

You made a pretty fatal flaw regarding the ratios topic. Nintendo does get ratio'd. Gamespot doesn't. Further, the events that were preceding the Seph reveal are all quite niche - the vast, vast majority of people who would have engaged with the reveal video would have Never Ever even been aware. This is in contrast to say, Blizzard, who's failings are much more widespread within their own audience. There is a much more narrow band of 'Blizzard' fans than 'Nintendo' fans.

Greetings fellow fe fan.

The part where emp showed his tweet regarding Byleth perfectly shows how I feel about the Nintendo fandom. Change "Byleth" to "fire emblem fates" and change "Nintendo sabotaging melee tournament and ect" to "Nintendo sabotaging Kaga after leaving IS" and you have exactly what I think of the fire emblem fandom.


Damn… I love Nintendo but I absolutely agree with you on this, great video dude


I’m kinda happy I never really liked Nintendo games that much to fall in this fan trap. Mario can be fun with friends but only like twice a year. And not worth it to buy a switch or any new games of them since the original on the wii is just fine. Honestly the content in their games is only worth one play through most of the time.


Giving stupid Twitter comments a voice is like the ultimate “one guy” scenario.


Me at the begging: how is Nintendo a church ?<br>Middle of the video: oh yeah, their die hard fans are basically a cult.

Me at the begging: how is Nintendo a church ?
Middle of the video: oh yeah, their die hard fans are basically a cult.


LEAVE THE MULTIMILLIONARE COMPANY ALONE!!! >:(


Im the biggest Nintendo fan on the planet and this video may have singlehandedly changed that fact.


Smash community when a tourney gets shut down:
"wtf I hate nintendo now"

Smash community a few days later:
 "OMG IS THAT A NEW ANIME SWORDSMAN FOR ULTIMATE? TAKE MY MONEY!"
"OMG IS THAT NEW DLC FOR POKEMON SNAP?  THANK YOU SO MUCH NINTENDO!"
"OMG IS THAT ANOTHER MARIO GOLF GAME?  I LOVE YOU DADDY NINTENDO!"


Wow this was so infuriating to watch, I can't imagine having to actually deal with it, let alone actually sitting down and making a very well edited video almost 30 minutes about it. Well done, Emp


Excellent video. Thanks for taking a stand. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


I feel like SEGA and Valve despite their flaws, have much more respect for their fans and their projects, for better or worse. If these companies acted like Nintendo, Sonic Mania and Black Mesa won't have existed.


I remember throughout the 2010s some videos with Nintendo content would just be muted whenever it played, which was a jarring way to initially find out about Nintendo's protectiveness.


As a former Nintendo fan I would like to say  it really breaks my heart after years of playing Nintendo games. Now there is no reason to stand behind anymore. We as the fans given so much joy to Nintendo, Nintendo should give back to us by owing us a huge debt. I vow to never play any upcoming Nintendo related games and buy into upcoming products. Everyone should do the same to get nintendo's world wide attention. If we care so much we must sacrifice our fondest. If the company could one day see us in our eyes, maybe they could have a change of heart.


If nintendo sold straight ROMs for their games with no gating, inbuilt emulators or changes and no drm, they would make billions overnight.

THIS! But to be honest, this doesn't happen ONLY with Nintendo. Every piece of old game media will have this growing problem. It just happens that Nintendo have a lot of legacy going on and games that people DO care to play yet.

The same can't be said for some old shovelware.

I'm pretty sure the legal trouble about some games is just to hard to solve. But at least for NINTENDO MADE GAMES. I don't get why they just don't sell ROMs legally.

But let be honest, no other company does that either. So this isn't an exclusive problem with Nintendo.


12:46 I got to play Pokemon Uranium before it got taken down, I even have a clip of me playing it on my channel. It was a good game, almost too good, if you didn't know it was fan-made you could've easily been tricked into thinking it was a official Pokemon game.


I love Nintendo dearly

But this earns my 👍


I understand we're all loser nerds here, but when I imagine a die hard Nintendo fan I don't usually think of a person who is very good at sticking up for themselves.<br>"If Papa Mario says no cake today I will rage, but tomorrow when I get the scraps I will be a happy dog again."

I understand we're all loser nerds here, but when I imagine a die hard Nintendo fan I don't usually think of a person who is very good at sticking up for themselves.
"If Papa Mario says no cake today I will rage, but tomorrow when I get the scraps I will be a happy dog again."


Now, I am what you can call a "fan." (Hell just look at my pfp.) I like their games and if they don't do a nose dive in quality I always will; but I always sort of was against the way they did PR. But this video was sort of a "greatest hits" of what they have always been doing. It has really recently come to light due to people calling it out. Despite loving their games and this and that; I have always supported emulation as preservation. It is how I've seen all of their games up to wii (except a few wii games and Wario World) through emulation.


So Im just sitting here listing to this video and I hear some soy voice ask "Am I pathetic for owning a Switch?" I say to myself "Yes", moments later so does the video. Good stuff.


Removed pretty much everything that made competitive melee great from brawl<br>Reason:too confusing for new players

Removed pretty much everything that made competitive melee great from brawl
Reason:too confusing for new players


I love Nintendo games. I hate Nintendo as a company.

That’s the attitude I’m seeing more and more Nintendo fans have. Myself included


Nintendo will do anything to earn a little extra money beside make another Mario kart game. Fans’ wallets are screaming for it.


Holy shit they got it real bad, great video.


Simply put, don’t be BOOTLICKERS y’all, stop making excuses for this company, every fan base of every Nintendo franchise has been affected by this. This isn’t right, stop cappin’ 🙄


After what happened to Riptide, I wouldn't be surprised after they reveal the final smash character, the same people do the same thing and the issue gets "resolved" in the fanboy's eyes


Reject the Church of Nintendo, Embrace the Church of Gaben<br>And if you prey hard enough the tf2 bots will die

Reject the Church of Nintendo, Embrace the Church of Gaben
And if you prey hard enough the tf2 bots will die


"A refuge from the abuse and torment of their reality"

I never realized how fucking true that is damn.


The way I see things, when it comes to businesses, there is a Disney for each category, Disney being for family friendly films and shows, McDonald's for the fast food industry, Nintendo for family friendly gaming, etc


I went to 2014 without ever knowing L-Canceling or Wavedashing existed.

A tremendously high skill ceiling has never ruined Smash's skill floor in the basement.


I researched about Nintendo and its history for my graduation paper. This is interesting lol


I can’t say I’m not a Nintendo fan, but I get tired of waiting for them to be a proactive company. If they didn’t make good games, I’d be disgusted.


When are we going to get the One Million subscriber mark? the edits and content throughout each video is perfection, 829k subs is insulting to a downward spiral as good as this one!


And they just cancelled Project + at Riptide because of Nintendo, man this company sucks

Because someone committed copyright infringement and paid the price for it?


18:57, you forgot to put the roblox fandom in the "worst fandom starter pack" literally made of up of hell most scapes of communities built off corporate greed, but still defended by the most die hard, and cringiest of fans.

As someone who does play Roblox and still does this is something that I can agree, the community is so fucking atrocious going as far as bypassing tshirts with semen on it and make a name that somehow roblox allows, roblox is so stupid with banning and filtering, doesn't make it any better that on the trading side it's cancer. trading is about to be 10 years old on Roblox next year and it will probably be more worse then it was already


This video is great and though I like nintendo games, this video has clearly pissed off 1.1K man children


Steam Deck to the rescue? idk<br>Also Doom Eternal far surpasses anything Nintendo ever made in terms of player engagement.

Steam Deck to the rescue? idk
Also Doom Eternal far surpasses anything Nintendo ever made in terms of player engagement.


My god, is this video a summary of why I hate Nintendo. Its ridiculous how devoted the fanbase is. This video made me SO HAPPY! Its like someone finally understands.


watched this vid while downloading melee emulator - 10/10

hopefully the emulator and rom isnt fucked up. i  have smash bros 64 on projet64 and it was bit fucked up graphically. its old tho.


I disliked this video just to prove you right. I still love you emp


I have mixed feelings towards Nintendo for a lot of years, but seeing how they can actually deliver good games consistently and sometimes groundbreaking games (like BOTW mostly recently), and knowing how their legacy shaped almost everything we have nowadays in gaming, I just can't "hate" then. Controversy from Nintendo isn't even new, even in the 80s and 90s there was a LOT of controversy and legal battles.

Honestly, the "rage" I see towards Nintendo seems to be a very "trendy" thing, like a lot of western bias nowadays. I see that the vast majority of people who LOVE to hate don't even know nothing about the company and their legacy.

And let's be honest, this bias against eastern world isn't even new. It doesn't even have nothing to do about games... NA people in general likes to think their "morals" are better then everyone else, about everything. Also, most of then really believes they can make the best products and technologies and sometimes hate everything from outside. Tell me, how is this different from Japan being xenophobic/racist?

For example, a lot of people mock Nintendo for the WiiU fiasco. But almost no one discuss how Nintendo executives cut their salaries so no one on the company loses their job.

Meanwhile, Activision CEO gets 200m bonus with selling records while hundreds of employees lose their jobs on the company.

So yea... Honestly, as mostly things from NA public in general. A lot of hypocrisy going on.


And then on August 27th, 2021, they shut down Project+ Tournaments for Riptide, an upcoming major Smash Bros. Tournament.

TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT WAS GOING TO START.


Well, another sacrifice to the church was made by the nintendrones, this time, Project +, a successor to Project M and Riptide. A fully legal mod, using the actual Brawl disk, meaning there are no excuses, just like the Slippi incident in November, and this shall be forgotten once the inevitable September Nintendo Direct comes by and distracts everyone away from this for a long while.

They also went and took down a 2D remake fangame of Metroid Prime also not too long ago.

They committed copyright infringement and paid the price for it. That isn't wrongdoing on Nintendo's part.


I learn more on this channel than I do school


Some things never change, don't they, Riptide?


i have been saying this stuff for years, great video.


Not even a Nintendo fan, but the Smash Community deserves everything they get because they are the fucking Smash Community. One of the worst fanbases ever.

The reason why the smash Community exists it's because the games are really good


As former Nintendo congregation, have been red pilled, based, and awaken.


The primary problem with Nintendo is the higher ups, the devs who make the games do the best they can with what they're told to do. When you look at the details in stuff like Breath of the Wild you can see the passion the devs put in, but the higher ups strangle a lot of passion from the players and limit certain things the devs want to do

@ergwertgesr5th ehwe5hwe5j5we what do those words mean in that order?

@Jaycron Parkola the sign is a subtle joke you see

@ergwertgesr5th ehwe5hwe5j5we what do devs and coders have to do with pirates and smelee players?

@Pixel_Quark Do you think the devs are somehow totally unaware of what's going on outside their offices?

@ergwertgesr5th ehwe5hwe5j5we no, I'm saying that the whole entirety of the higher ups are the problem with Nintendo, the actual people coding and making the games are fine and put passion into the game

Lmao did you even watch the video? He makes fun of that "uhh actually its just the evil 1% who do everything wrong!!!!" mentality.


So I'm not just an out of touch old fart for still thinking Melee was the best Smash? I've always wondered why the new smash games just don't grip me in the same way.


The smash thing doesn’t really bother me to be honest any company would see the smash community as off putting to parents buying their kids products however the anti modding and terrible retro release practices annoy me, mario galaxy 2 should be on SMAS3D


I’m surprised we went through this whole video without mentioning the shit show that was sword and shield


Excellent video, shame the people who need to see it won't


18:50
This list is incomplete, there's at least one toxic fanbase missing; Homestuck


Guess who decided to cancel Riptide's Project+ event.


You're factually wrong in that the Slippi Online client needs to use a <b>modded</b> copy of Super Smash Bros Melee, it works with a vanilla copy. This is misinformation spread by nintendo.

You're factually wrong in that the Slippi Online client needs to use a *modded* copy of Super Smash Bros Melee, it works with a vanilla copy. This is misinformation spread by nintendo.


Nintendo may make better games, but SEGA is definitely the better company


As a Nintendo fan, I agree with this. I’m usually nervous about engaging with other Nintendo fans because I never know if they’ll agree with my stance on the company. Nintendo’s been a part of my life since I was 6 and I would like it to stay that way. But the fact is I don’t support all of their releases and I don’t support most of their practices. It just feels like I’m watching my community burn sometimes lol


im 33 and i love nintendo ... and i agree with u bro .. these other guys should be making the company lission to the fans ... these big comanys have all this power they abuse. ( going to jail for moding a device u own!_)


NIntendo acts like this because Japanese copyright actually works the way Nintendo tries to force their international fans to behave. If anyone watches vtubers, you might remember hearing that the Japanese ones have to get permission from Nintendo, and for them, it isn't just a formality to make life easier but an actual requirement.

Don't you dare to explain the outside world for the NA public!


I don't think big Japanese corporations like capitulating to western fans and ideas, I think it's just a cultural thing.


I remember the Bylth outrage they were upset that another fire emblem character was been addee and not one for another game, but were they offering alternatives, mostly no and the few they were came form properties that nintendo didn't own and would have to make a deal with another company for.

On another note I been an admin of a pokemon group for a few years, but if you ever say anything bad about there new ideas they call you toxic. I hated  Dynamax/Gigantamax but you say that they would come for you. I am allow to think it was an unimaginative idea that was completely unblanced for the single format (which isn't their tournament format so they don't care).

I could go on but i think I ranted enough

I'm surprised you haven't given up on that group yet and left admin considering how toxic they are...


I just want to give Nintendo all my money, but they won't let me.


I think another issue is Nintendo tends to act like Japan is the only area that matters. They bullied Japanese law makers to make it so Rentals can’t be done with video games. They tried doing that in America too but failed shockingly. Granted it isn’t like game rentals are even a thing now so Nintendo basically shot themselves in the foot for no reason. Then again, people from the industry back then said they purposefully sabotaged games with cryptic/ super difficult shit to prevent people from being able to complete it within a rental period to entice the kids to buy the game.

At the end of the day all companies are garbage for several reasons. Nintendo doesn’t deserve any shielding from their garbage.

Besides there’s a ton of people who are infringing on their copyrights and sometimes even using footage from their games to sell shitty mobile apps and they seem to not care about stopping that.


The relationship that Nintendo fans have with Nintendo is the same as the one that my gay friend has with his evangelical church.


For the modded Nintendo games, I thought I saw that it has to do with how laws in Japan work and that's why Nintendo cracks down?


I think Emp is discounting just how many people that buy the console and the games have no idea that anything else is going on (i.e. the lawsuits, poor functionality, etc.). They see a cool piece of technology that's less expensive than the other ones, they've heard the name Nintendo, they hear the games are good, so they buy it. Most people aren't terminally online and only scratch the surface, it's not as much complacency as it is just ignorance.

@Chase Ingebritson That wasn’t who he was talking about. The other companies he described have about as much fans who don’t care regardless yet Nintendo isn’t given the same criticism as the others when they’re anti-consumer.

@Arna Arifin Sorry, I mean people that just aren’t in the pro/anti Nintendo conversation at all.

He mentioned those that will be in support of Nintendo, but failed to consider people like young kids or adults that don’t use things like Twitter or YouTube. Those people make up a significant share of profits. As long as Nintendo continues to appeal to that group, realistically they won’t even have to care what any of us say.

Those same fans take the time to research why Nintendo is “technically” right to defend them.

If they have the time to do that research then it’s not blissful ignorance.


>"video game companies are not entitled to a monopoly"
>yet he shows a picture of nintendo monopoly

curious.

@Icy Wings I regret every comment I made on most of emplemon's videos so I don't really care anymore but thanks

@Kattagory It's a literal board of Monopoly with Mario on it.

Which part was this? I can probably explain


as a huge nintendo fan, i agree completely. i hate this stanning

I feel like there’s a difference between being a “fan” and a “Stan”. As emp explained in his Rick & Morty video


a moment of silence for pokemon brick bronze


Don’t worship a corporation, they disappoint you sooner or later


The die-hard fans deserve whatever they get for propping up a dying company


"seal of quality" and shows a wata scam box, irony? 😂


I only bought a switch because my cousin had one.<br>I kinda regret it

I only bought a switch because my cousin had one.
I kinda regret it


I’m sorry, but I’m never going to get out of the rabbit hole. They just make good things I love. I’m a proud Nintendo fanboy!

@CMG The Person If my videos were jack s*** they would get a lot of dislikes and people would have not believed me. I wrote that letter as a proof that Nintendo still listens to their fans.

@M64bros If I learnt anything from YouTube, corporate letters mean jack shit


AMAZINGLY PUT TOGETHER VIDEO EMPBRO COMMENTING FOR THE ALGORITHM

I AM REPLYING TO SUPPORT MY HOMIE EMP IN THE ALGORITHM


I wholly agree with everything on this video, but maybe there was less backlash on the sephiroth video to the freemelee and splatoon thing maybe because of the fact that it was "Sephiroth" being revealed, he was a like a classic character beloved by many people outside even nintendo who probably didn't even know about what was going on in those communities. I know some people that didn't really care for smash that saw that video and went on to buy it after reveal, while byleth, and many on the smash community hating FE characters for no reason at all and also being another FE character was more of a nintendo/smash specific thing got a lot more hate. That was the only thing that seemed kind of weird to me on the video, but I totally agree that it's weird fro people to be so defensive of a company like nintendo I always feel like they are immune to criticism and basically can shut any project with minimal backlash, it really is sad that projects like mother 4 had to change their name because the possibility of getting a C&D from nintendo.


This isn’t said enough so I will say it: You successfully changed my mind


still mad that the joycons began to drift after just 3 days of use while my ps3 controllers with 10 years of use still going strong


>Mafioso tactics

I mean, their main ip are italian, sooooooo... maybe mario's not just stomping on goombas with those shoes.


<b>*Laughs in modded N64, GC, GBA, and Wii*</b>

**Laughs in modded N64, GC, GBA, and Wii**


I have a love&hate relationship with Nintendo. Early 2000s I had gameboy color and Pokemon Yellow, N64 with OoT (fav game of all-time) SM64, Banjo Kazooie and all that good shit. Nowadays I couldn't give a flying fuck bout them after seeing they sell those 20+ yo. games in full price in their retro  online stores. And don't get me even started on Pokemon. They put 0% effort into the new games because they can make the same amount of money for 2 plushies and Nintendo fandom sheep herd will happily buy every Pokemon merch available.


Here again because another takedown on Twitter happened regarding mods.


I haven't bought a Nintendo game outside Pokémon GO for years. I probably won't ever buy a system or, consequently, (outside of MAYBE a mobile) new game again.


14:30 i'm surprised I didn't see Titanfall in this list


byleth gets added, fans: OMG another swordsmen..... Sepiroth: EHHHmaaagurd dude with long bamboostick, best character!

I mean there's a few reasons why fans weren't as mad at sephiroth

1) he's from a series that only had 1 rep in smash before he was added
Instead of fire emblems 7

2) he's one of the biggest video game villians of all time (I think I've never played FF7)

3) his inclusion in smash meant that we got way more FF7 content such as music and spirits
Cloud only had TWO songs come with him for some reason

4) and his trailer was pretty awesome (this one is just my opinion lol)


Personally as a Nintendo Fan, the biggest obstacle to liking Nintendo isn’t exactly Nintendo itself, it’s literally everyone else screaming at you to stop liking Nintendo.
And I get there’s a difference between being a casual Nintendo fan and being a loyalist fanboy, but a lot of the time, folks just pin the two groups together.
Part of me believes that a large part of the hardcore mentality so many fanboys have is simply due to how anti-Nintendo people are and how these fanboys have given themselves the job of defending Nintendo.
I dunno, I just feel like if there wasn’t such a huge hatred for Nintendo (on the internet) there’d probably be no problems with Nintendo fanboys and such.

Exactly. It’s the same way with Rick & Morty. The anti-fans are just as bad as the fanboys


6:56 ok wtf is this. I saw this randomly for the first time today, and here it is again. I’ve never seen this meme before, is the algorithm testing me


I love Metroid series I will not ever buy them from Nintendo because Nintendo sucks not because  I don't have the money but because they are hunting  their fans with lawsuits ~shenpaikoneko


The Nintendo Ninjas will be suiciding you any day now.


Its twitter, i dont get why normal people would even use that cesspool of a platform anyways.


i think you shouldn't be friends with someone like that


3:11 does anyone know who's playing this tournament? Or where I can find the whole video?


Suprised you didn’t mention the Nintendo ninjas


12:15 just because you can't refute something doesn't mean that it's an invalid argument


25:29 oversimplified taught me who that guy was


Well, this is the first time I've heard elp in a youtube video!


I mean there is one "toxic" nintendo ip comunity

Pokemon


rewatching this makes me happy that the only nintendo hardware i currently own is over 40 years old


The video is currently at 666k views... how.. suitable for the topic


I imagine a large justification for the super fans are that in the end, Nintendo makes good games and thats all they care about. They don't care what the company does outside of that because unlike EA and others that do shitty things outside and inside the game, Nintendo seems to mostly* keep their shitty behavior outside the core game so people don't care. It'd be like that one coworker that you hate their personality and wouldn't want to hang out with outside of work, but if you have a hard project you want them on your team because they do great work and produce results

@Logan Roof: Pedo Exposer What, and what does that have to do with the comment above and the video?

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

I think that, and some probably think that if they couldn't do their Disney scarcity and overprotectiveness that they would turn into an EA.


Video still relevant sadly but still as always thanks for advertising P+ on the pinned comment, were struggling so much to come back into relevancy


Nintendo kids are called Kyle and grew up in steady, boring homes.<br>Sega kids, clap cheex and dad went to get some cigs, at some point

Nintendo kids are called Kyle and grew up in steady, boring homes.
Sega kids, clap cheex and dad went to get some cigs, at some point


Dude I'm proud of how far emp has come, from making YouTube poops to the highest quality videos in YouTube, such as the never ever series.

The level of editing a good YTP requires means that you can make amazing "normal" vids.

@Qwerty_Ops Are there more youtubers who changed like this? I only know EmpLemon & Pyrocynical.

What is it with funny meme edit youtubers becoming the best content creators?


I dunno how you can, with a serious voice, bring up Smash's extremely large scale sexual misconduct, years of bullying and destroying public properties, once publicly assaulting a player on stage, sent death threats to developers for certain character additions, and also complain about why Nintendo won't fully support them. Nintendo likes the Splatoon community because it's mostly Japanese, and they don't cause trouble. Really the only time they were shut down was when they put protests in their names.

Honestly, if people had complaints, they should make a game that rivals Smash. Obviously it's never gonna happen, and Smash fans don't even support the efforts there were, like a bunch of those smash clone indie games that don't have much traction. If you play those games, you don't have to deal with Nintendo, that simple. But these fans are so fucking greedy

A game to rival Smash? Nickelodeon Allstars Brawl is around the corner.

I get where you're going with this, but it lacks a lot of the causality for the bad people in the smash community. A lot of the clique-type problems caused in the smash community were birthed from a grass-roots atmosphere, where Nintendo was a distant advocate at best in only limited circumstances. Having a governing body would have made things much different, not to blame the company but there is quite a bit that could've been avoided if they invested into the community. They were (allegedly, but everyone with credibility has vouched for the story) in talks with making actual Nintendo sanctioned tours for damn near a decade, causing a Red Bull eSports sponsorship and other side events to be killed just for the prospect of Nintendo helping out. They eventually flaked on the deal sometime in 2019, well before the whole summer of 2020. Their consistent meddling in the smash community is what causes the anger, as they regularly interfere for no discernable benefit and cause problems that didn't need to be caused. I get being hesitant now, but the many years before is just woefully inept: paying the winner of EVO Japan only a pro controller, their half-hearted attempt at a circuit for Ultimate, basically anything they did was negligible or the community would've been better off if they did nothing at all.

I'm not here to justify any of the sexual misconduct, a lot of the stories that came out are deplorable and even were some people I personally knew. The only thing I'll say is every community has plenty of awful people that aren't exposed to the public yet. Look at professional wrestling in the summer of 2020, the whole Hollywood scandal, Bauer and Watson being recently exposed as (allegedly) awful people. Every community has shitty people because the world has a lot of bad actors that are good at specific talents. I don't like that the amount of cases existed in the first case, but I'd much rather have them in the public eye and handled accordingly than have it be hidden.


25:54- tries to read ad -- and it's gone... <downward spiral>

25:54- *tries to read ad* -- and it's gone... <downward spiral>


Okay I'm gonna be honest with you, I've stepped out of Neverland and saw Nintendo as another company. Don't get me wrong, I still love Nintendo games and have some of the Nintendo consoles but I've played other games from other consoles like PC and Playstation, hell I grew up as a Playstation gamer mostly than a Nintendo gamer, then I became a PC gamer recently since most of the PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3, and PS4 games are on Steam and Emulation.

Nintendo will always be remembered as a part of my childhood, and I'll never forget that.

@LittleMonzterGaming so when the Nintendo Switch Online announcement videos were bombarded with dislikes and got ratio'd, Nintendo wasn't being treated like "any other company"?

Of course Nintendo should listen to its consumers, very few people if no one are denying that. But this sort of opinionated blabbering with no real organizated solution in mind accomplishes nothing. I honestly found the video to be quite divisive and counter-productive.

But it is smart from EmpLemon's perspective because he can farm ad revenue off of Nintendo hate.

@za_beasto Emp, like many critics of Nintendo simply wants Nintendo to be treated like any other company and for criticisms to be heard rather than shunned by the TITLE of the video.

@Trikki Clips yeh, also, I don't understand the point of this video. Criticizing Nintendo for their decisions in the form of YouTube commentary is not controversial at all; I can say with absolute certainty that I watched this exact same video with all of the same talking points back in December from a different content creator. People have been calling out Nintendo for years. Certainly Mr. EmpLemon is presumably enjoying the favorable ratio and ad revenue. What this video lacks is any sort of definitive call for action to challenge Nintendo. What exactly is he suggesting? A boycott? Counter lawsuits? Some kind of name-and-shame campaign against Nintendo's top brass? Reaching out to gamers and media people in Japan that can actually get the ball rolling on generating controversy that dislodges bad influences on the industry? All of these ideas would be more respectable than the vague notion that "Nintendo fans need to wake up". All talk no action.

@George Liquor how? He just said Nintendo was a part of his childhood. Nothing can change that.

The only companies that make good decisions nowadays are a majority of Indie devs.


Wat's happening now is that more people is seeing Nintendoi's business philosophy.  They've always attempted to have an iron grip on every facet of their brand.  Anything that isn't part of the plan is treated as a flaw and removed, even if it's beneficial.

Even in the 80's, Nintendo treated their third-party developers like this.  Now that individual people can make content, they've taken the same approach to the public.

Exactly, this aren't even new. I honestly feels that most of the "rage" going on nowadays is just creators being mad because they can't use Nintendo properties at will.


what makes me sad about this video is that it is either going to be stuffed down by Nintendo and never get far past your subscribers or it's going to dislike mobed into oblivion by the more rampant part of the fanbase

Man, it sucks being a Nintendo fan.


This is a good video but like it's more structured like a boycott video to me

I don’t think he intends on discouraging people from buying from them, it more he wants to highlight the hypocrisy in  the community and no matter how loyal you are to a company they are not exempt from criticism or flaw.

it is, in a way. i mean, in the end of the video emp literally tells people to boycott nintendo (or maybe i misunderstood it?)


I mean look how blatantly bad the last Pokemon game and look how nostaglia driven and blind the fans still bought the game. Really won't surprise you that so many of them lick their cheesey feet.

Except that Pokémon game wasn't even that bad when reality is that the Pokémon games quality has been around the same since Gen 3 almost 20 years ago but people just pretend the quality was higher on the older games because of nostalgia, so naturally when a new game lacks that to the older fans they suddenly think it's bad and over exaggerate anything negative about it no matter how tiny of a nitpick that is...


I find it absolutely hilarious that the most recent addition to Smash, Kazuya Mishima, is a ruthless business executive who seeks to dominate the world through extreme capitalism. Nintendo really just put their self-insert into the game.

@Sam T yeah, but he's doing it for himself and doesnt care for the money lol

@Marco Kitty tbf tekken is weird and coinsdering it is a fighting game most people overlook the lore

@Marco Kitty I've played Tekken for like 15 minutes and I was surprised by the fact that Kazuya is apparently a business executive

Just admit it: you don't know much about the lore of tekken, huh

@Sam T kazuya just wants to kill heihachi and realize the true power of the devil gene.

Not only this but they made Shantee and dante one of the most requested characters to be added by Sakurai words himself a mii costumes

This is my first time hearing anything related to Tekken lore and I'm extremely confused

@DeliLizard Speedruns still out of the blue for jin tbh

@Marco Kitty It was more Heihachi's fault than Jin's fault imo

@Hanzum Autist the private military is their fanbase

@Hanzum Autist bruh that whole shit was Jin's fault lol. Kazuya just owned the company for a while lol

Well, more like through extreme capitalism and a private military, but yeah, the point still stand.


Coming from somebody who loves Nintendo & their games, Nintendo fanboys are some of my least favorite people out there

“Some of my least favorite people out there.” Do you know how fucked up that sounds? And this is coming from someone who thinks Nintendo is a bad company. This is such a farce that it’s making me so angry.

@Marco Kitty god I hate among us I didn’t mind it at first till the shit memes from it started popping up every where

@Marco Kitty I guarantee a lot of people who jumped on the Nintendo train aren’t even fans. This is why gatekeeping is important.

Most "fanboys" are just people that hopped on the train yelling about among us and jonesy in smash anyway. Sometimes I forget there are people who didn't get their prediction deduction skills from the early Sm4sh trailers.


On God, it's nice to hear someone finally speak up about the annoying Sakurai stans. He's cool, but so many people keep extolling him.

@Logan Roof: Pedo Exposer what? I think you're in the wrong place.


I have the strangest feeling that this video will get a sequel.

Oh it will. The horde shall come.

Put me int the video lmao

@Donkey Kong Fan  "Well excuuuse me for actually wanting my favorite company to get better instead of giving up like a pessimistic prick."

Ignoring the issues and saying "b-b-but nintendo will get better!' IS giving up like a "pessimistic prick". You don't like the truth, and think it's hopeless to change, so you stick your fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALALA". NO. The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging there is a problem. Realize nintendo is going down the gutter, and you need to take steps to help fix it. Stop buying their products, stop supporting their terrible business decisions, tell everyone you can to stop supporting them.

@Donkey Kong Fan  "Well excuuuse me for actually wanting my favorite company to get better instead of giving up like a pessimistic prick."

Ignoring the issues and saying "b-b-but nintendo will get better!' *IS* giving up like a "pessimistic prick". You don't like the truth, and think it's hopeless to change, so you stick your fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALALA". NO. The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging there is a problem. Realize nintendo is going down the gutter, and you need to take steps to help fix it. Stop buying their products, stop supporting their terrible business decisions, tell everyone you can to stop supporting them.

@LunaSalt Their CEO Furukawa, after Iwata's emergency replacement stepped down, said that fixing NSO would be "too expensive" and to wait for the next console (doubt it'll be much different). He also kept denying joycon drift in investor meetings until one of them asked why NoA was doing free repairs after they were threatened with a class action lawsuit.

@Donkey Kong Fan they literally just shitted out a brand new console today that changes barely anything and won't do anything to fix their horrible online service and dysfunctional controllers

@Donkey Kong Fan Nintendo makes absolutely fantastic games, don't get me wrong, but they're still killing off fan-games, have never helped the competitive scene of any of there games beyond surface level elements, and they most of the things you've mentioned are just basic things that every gaming company do. Allowing creators to make content on their games shouldn't be commended, it should be expected

@Kreatona Nintendo has redifined Zelda after the criticisms of Skyward Sword, brought 3D Mario back to its roots after fans clamored for it to happen, added highly-requested characters in Smash Ultimate, and they allowed Nintendo YouTubers creators to freely make content about their games, just to name a few.

Nintendo did all of this without any financial incentive. Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros would've sold millions regardless of if they listened to fan feedback. Nintendo doesn't need a financial incentive to listen to criticism, they've shown that they can and will improve themselves regardless of money. This will be no exception. Nintendo will not only improve themselves from the criticism, but will also redeem themselves in the long run.

@Donkey Kong Fan I'd love nothing more than for Nintendo to stop being an abysmal company, but it seems like there's no reason for them change as people will keep buying their shitty remakes for $60

@Donkey Kong Fan you gotta be the most naive person in this comment section or a good troll

@Donkey Kong Fan Doubt it, we're currently entering back into the N64 era of Nintendo internal politics.

Iwata was pretty much the best thing to ever happen to this company, and now that he's gone, its pretty much all downhill from here. And hell, a lot of the things Emp mentioned still happened under Iwata's time as CEO of Nintendo. These are just problems that are deeply ingrained into the company's DNA, and it's going to take a lot of push back to force them to change with the times and respect their fan base. The sooner that Nintendo starts acting more like Sega when it comes to their community, the better. Nintendo needs to understand that people are still going to come out and buy their games when they put out something new, regardless of the fan works that come out.

@Donkey Kong Fan highly doubt that'll happen

@Not Freeman Actually, no. This video’s sequel will be about looking back on this video and seeing how much Nintendo has improved since then.<br>Because Nintendo will solve all these problems as they have done so with many of their previous issues before.

@Not Freeman Actually, no. This video’s sequel will be about looking back on this video and seeing how much Nintendo has improved since then.
Because Nintendo will solve all these problems as they have done so with many of their previous issues before.


I may like the games Nintendo publishes, but as a company they suck bad. I switched over to Playstation after wii released and I've never felt better about it.


honestly the most painfully accurate part about this video is the tail end. I used to be one of those fans. but I've seen so many talented fans get their work shat on that I just can't anymore. nowadays I stick to Steam and only occasionally play my switch when a game I know I'll actually love comes out and can't be gotten on Steam since it's my one way around the EGS. and folks are quick to point out how draconian Sony is with crossplay, yet the moment anybody mentions how draconian Nintendo is, it gets brushed aside by the rabid fanbase.

I'm in a similar place right now except I don't play Switch anymore. Hardware issues (imagine paying for a second pair of joycons? Couldn't be me) and refusal to pay for online has made it basically a brick for me. A lot of very anti-consumer moves and intentional gutting of products has been a wake up call. I let them do too much for too long. I knew of a lot of these things prior to last year and let it slide as if there was nothing I could do about it. Not gonna let them abuse me anymore.


This video singlehandedly convinced me to never buy another Nintendo product. Fuck them.


I think what's missing from this analysis is the fact that Nintendo is a Japanese company and most of the other companies are American or European.  There's the issue of international law and the Japanese ideal of following the rules even if they don't make any apparent sense.  The idea of just letting people break the law doesn't fly there as readily as it does in the west.

Ok but capcom looked at people "breaking the laws" by remaking RE2, and instead of "doing what they're legally entitled to" or "following the rules" or any other bs lie told to excuse nintendo's malice, Capcom personally payed for them to be flown to capcoms studio in japan and showed them the Remake they were making before the rest of the world saw, and even discussed game development.

Capcom has infinitely less money than nintendo, so the fact they could essentially book an all expense paid vacation for multiple people to politely negotiate with them to take the project down is all the evidence you need to know this is completely false. If capcom of all people can come to a peaceful solution to this situation with their infamous track record with how they've interacted with their fans nintendo not only has no excuse but this makes them look even worse than they did previously.

This is true they are culturally different but Sqaure Enix is a Japanese company and have a very healthy relationship with thier fans

Ok, my defense for that is, Sega and Sony are also japanese companies

"Thats how the law works"<br>Yea tell that to sega

"Thats how the law works"
Yea tell that to sega

You do make a good point, but there are other companies based in Japan that don’t seem to have the same issues that Nintendo does. You rarely hear about how Sony, Capcom, or other companies copyrighted videos, shut down major fan projects or sued emulator sites. Hell, Sega even supported a fan project and the result was Sonic Mania. Nintendo is a Japanese company, but the issue is that they don’t seem to want to allow the foreign market the same freedoms other companies have given.


I appreciate this video so much. Even when I was entirely ignorant to the vast majority of these facts in the early 2000s, I could feel the way Nintendo and its relationship with the consumer. When a teenage video game player can feel the derision through the store shelves, there is a serious problem. Or maybe it was as simple as "If I choose Nintendo, I am making a commitment that will cost me more than the competition, and I will receive less in return, only compensated with imaginary fluff"


I've literally pirated every Nintendo game I've ever played since 2010. I will continue to pirate all their shit and not give them a single dollar. They don't deserve any money until they stop being a horrible influence on the gaming industry. Zero respect for them. I respect the developers that have made all their amazing games, but that's where the respect ends. Too bad I'm just a drop in the ocean and the average casual middle school consumer doesn't care a single bit, so the cycle continues...


At least A Koopa's Revenge 1 and 2 is still going to this day, they're one of the most well made and iconic fan games ever, and it's amazing to see they're still being updated.


When they released the Mario 3D All Stars collection as a limited time offer I made a YouTube comment saying it kind of sucked because though I really wanted to buy the game I didn't want to buy a switch because of the joycon issue.

Nintendo fans just replied to me to buy a pro controller or just deal with it, or buy a physical copy and wait that the controller issue may be fixed later on.

That's probably the dumbest experience I've ever had with the core Nintendo fanbase.

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That Twitter time line thing fucking resonates so hard. That was like a week of shit that Nintendo just did a bunch of bad things, ruined the week, killed everyone's moods, and then Sephiroth came out and we all just forgot.

Fans, you're at a cross road, either boycott, or stop complaining.

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 LOL LMAO


i saw this fascinating video about joycon drift and it talked about how they recalled every NES to fix a manufacturing defect. it contrasts so hard about how they treat consumers now its just baffling

@Digital Unity  a lawsuit actually happened for drift and you are able to send in your controllers to get it repaired but they have kept it under the radar. currently the best known way of fixing it is opening up the controller and sticking a piece of thick paper under the joystick which is much easier than sending it to nintendo and going weeks without a controller

@Digital Unity I'm pretty sure that was the N64 and the Mario Party games. Don't forget about Nintendo constantly denying that there was something wrong with DS Lite hinges until they got sued for it. The same thing happened with joycons. Nintendo kept denying the issue until a class action lawsuit was brought up against NoA. You could then get free repairs but only if your lived in North America. NCL would continue to deny joycon drift issues in investor meetings until someone brought up the lawsuit and the fact that free repairs were being offered in North America.

What's baffling to me is that the people actually think that joycons and ps5 controllers are actually good controllers. They drift within a year, and they don't solder the analog sticks on the boards anymore. Now they have these shitty little circuits that lose conductivity after x amount of hours.

They are making you all into mindless, buying, slaves. They want you to spend 80 dollars a year buying their bad controllers. WAKE UP EVERYONE, GAMING IS A SOULESS SHELL NOW

Wait they did WHAT?! This company pulled every NES but didn't tell anybody they were giving out anti-palm-blister gloves for GameCubes and won't even acknowledge drift?! How did we GET here?!


They once saved the industry we all love, and for that we are forever grateful, but we must not allow them (or anyone else) to now destroy that industry that they saved.


I don't even buy Nintendo games in my country anymore, they cost between 250 and 400 bucks (of course this is my country's currency, not to mention that the minimum wage here is 900, for the ones wondering, i live in the land that you need to come)  but yeah, before Nintendo wans't even here and we buyed imported games and even then was cheaper, so yeah i can't buy nintendo games anymore... that zelda pfp is just because it was the one since a created the account, because i fucking hate that company today


I feel like the argument that Business practices in Japan are more ruthless doesn’t really work because Bandai and Sega are both Japanese companies as well and they’re far kinder toward and more supportive of their fans than Nintendo has ever been. Harada, the director of the Tekken games, participates in tournaments for Tekken 7, hackers and modders of Sega games get jobs in their company as devs and programmers, Nintendo has never done anything like this. All 3 of these companies are Japanese born yet 2 of them stay loyal to their fans and give their fans more than just good games while the other has always felt contempt and intolerance towards its fans. It’s like what they’ve been saying since the 90’s, “Sega does what Nintendon’t”

@Blacktain Falcon so what Nintendo has done is okay? Say what you will about Sega but I doubt they’ve shut down a charity event. When you counter an argument with, “But they’ve done bad things too!” It ultimately undermines the entire point of the main argument. Nintendo is actively fighting against their most avid fans while Sega gives them opportunities. I don’t doubt that Sega did some similar things in the past, but Sega has at least grown since then while Nintendo is still stuck in the past.

@Zoober Wezee Sega has specifically copyright striked their music before and taken down fangames. Specifically Streets of Rage. Just because Sonic Team hired some modders doesn't exempt them from the cases of them sending DMCA's

TBF...I do think this is because SEGA and Bandai Namco were in the home console industry before and failed (SEGA more specifically just failed to sustain it) so they know the importance of cherishing the fans, because with no fans there is no money. So they do what they can to keep them happy. Nintendo have too many IPs and power now to care about their fans. If the Switch was a failure, they may have seen the light after two console fails in a row, but it seems like Nintendo are always able to pick themselves back up in the public in terms of relevance every other generation. Honestly I do like portable consoles but I wish the Switch failed if it meant Nintendo would become a third party developer and change their ways.

@Blacktain Falcon I never mentioned Square, and Sega HAS given jobs to modders and hackers so I don’t see what you’re getting at here.

Bullshit. Sega has taken down fan projects and music. Square Enix is super ruthless regarding their IP's. And yeah I don't agree with the practices, but they pretty much all do it. But let's bandwagon against Nintendo right?


I'm looking for mad Nintendo fans in the comments but theres not really any here

i found some in the "Newer comments" tab, but i think most of them are either kids who have been taught to love nintendo from their childhood or people that just came to dislike the video and left without actually watching it.


Why do you care though? Emulate and enjoy the fanboy cringe, all for free.

He convinced me, I’m glad he made this video even if it opened only one person’s eyes


So in other words, you're tell the followers of Nintendo to wake up and see Nintendo for who they truly are? Sounds reasonable, I'm in.


Nintendo fans when EmpLemon dislikes a video about Sephiroth in Smash over a Smash Melee tournament's shut down: "How fucking dare you! Those aren't even close to similar!"

Nintendo fans when Nintendo shuts down a Splatoon 2 tournament because competitors spoke out against a Smash Melee tournament's shut down:
"When you think about it, Smash Melee and Splatoon 2 are the same game!"

I doubt Nintendo fans even play Nintendo games anymore

@oh darn, it’s me He doesn't need so sympathize with anyone to know that you aren't thinking straight

@Gabe Davis Imagine admitting that you want to murder people because they like a video game company.

Nintendo makes good games, but not very good desisions. Because they are run by 80 YR olds.

@Pix Tron the etikkons sales went to JED foundation for mental health awareness. Nintendo shut it down because the shell had joycon Boyz on it.   That's incredibly slimy of Nintendo

@Todd Howard whatever Todd, still better than skyrim

we do, and we just don't give a shit about melee, much like this video points out.<br>I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo is intentionally attacking melee fans and sympathizers just to get rid of the fanbase surrounding that game. it hurts their image just as much as the rest of their fanboys.

we do, and we just don't give a shit about melee, much like this video points out.
I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo is intentionally attacking melee fans and sympathizers just to get rid of the fanbase surrounding that game. it hurts their image just as much as the rest of their fanboys.

The only thing to object, though, is that weren't the Etikons made for profit when they were advertised as charity? Not that Nintendo would care otherwise, but I heard that was a thing.


I was about to say Thomas fans are worse than Nintendo fans but… no, yeah Nintendo fans are worse, especially due to numbers.

Could you explain what’s wrong with the Thomas fandom? I’m not too familiar with them


I remember a long time ago I was told that by pirating and emulating Nintendo games I could potentially make them go bankrupt. I'm still patiently waiting for that day to arrive

Reminds me of that 4chan meme about becoming a bilionaire by pirating games and deleting them.

The whole fan base has to do so, I doubt that will ever come to fruition.


I remember about 5-6 years ago, blind Blizzard fanboys were called "blizzdrones" and were plentiful. Now the company has done tons of awful shit, and there's less and less of them.<br>Nintendo on the other hand does just as much if not more ridiculous crap, yet people seem to be fine with it. I don't get it.

I remember about 5-6 years ago, blind Blizzard fanboys were called "blizzdrones" and were plentiful. Now the company has done tons of awful shit, and there's less and less of them.
Nintendo on the other hand does just as much if not more ridiculous crap, yet people seem to be fine with it. I don't get it.

@Blacktain Falcon yea thats was only one comapared the billions of things  nintnedo has done wrong

@Blacktain Falcon That was one incident. Nintendo has an arse load of anti-consumer incidents

Nintendo has done more ridiculous crap than Blizzard? The company that tried to ban the Hong Kong protests? Yeah ok sure.

@Darkoofthedark My dad and brother are still regular WoW players (they run a raid group together), so I just try and keep my brother informed on the sort of controversies that Activision-Blizzard ends up getting themselves into so that he's aware of these sort of things. I'm not expecting my brother to quit WoW or anything (its a pass time that allows him and my dad to bond with each other), but at the very least, he should be aware of the shit going on at Blizzard if he really does care about the game and its company.

As for my dad, he's like in his early 50s. I don't expect my dad to really give a shit about drama like this, so i just don't bother talking with him about it. He doesnt even think that esports are actual sports anyways, so he wouldnt even really care about the Blitzchung situation regardless of if i explained it to him. Like, in my dad's case, its not even that he's emotionally attached to WoW or anything. Its just that he doesnt really even care about the ongoing corporate politics at Blizzard, nor does he care about the esports scene. WoW to him is just the game he plays with my brother and his buddies over Discord when he comes back home after spending all week repairing blood-gas analyzers and EKG machines. It's pretty much become an integral part of his life now, and its how he socializes with his online friends, which i don't really have a problem with personally given that i have my own online friends that I hang out with in my free time (same with my brother). Point being: he still makes time for me, my mom and my siblings, and its nothing more than just a simple pass time for him. Do i think it would be nice if he cared about the company politics at Blizzard? Sure, but he's an older guy with more important shit to worry about. I'm not gonna fault him if he doesnt have the time, care or energy to get riled up over shit like this. I'd rather he put his stock into bigger issues in this country.

blizzard fans are not emotionally attached like the nintendo-children


Oh shit, cool seeing SolarLight here 3:50

I don't really care for SolarLights content, but I can admit, he is probably one of the most technically skilled people I've seen in Tf2.


Nintendo has essentially become the Disney of the video games industry. Albeit not exactly similar, but scarily alike.

- They objectively have one of, if not, the best back catalog in video game history.
- They were one of the founding fathers of their eras.
- They have a legion of sheepish fans that will flock to defend them at any excuse.
- They actively drug and reward their fans for blind loyalty.
- Fan and community projects are willingly stricken down and stolen from for the sake of "legal rights".
- Most people would say they can do no wrong.

The main difference being Disney is far more authoritarian, while Nintendo is democratic.

Also, another point of reference missed I thought was intriguing: After AM2R was taken down, Metroid: Samus Returns was revealed not too long after. Hmmmmmmmm.......

It's honestly embarrassing. Nintendo talks all of this junk about preserving IPs and protecting their brand when they fail to provide adequate alternatives to the fan projects they took down. Literally hiring these people and getting their project greenlit for an Eshop release would be MORE profitable than whatever schemes their family brand gets up to. Super Mario 3D All-Stars was hot garbage. Go play Super Mario Sunburn and remastered Mario 64.

However, one counter-point I do want to make is your pessimistic interpretation of Sakurai. Personally, I feel he is an extremely passionate developer and he has shown evidence for this if you look into his Famitsu Columns. He is a fighting game fan at heart and I feel he is realizing his life's work as best as he can in such an unpredictable company. Remember Pyra & Mythra? It turns out he didn't add them because he wanted to piss people off intentionally. He was ordered to add them to promote Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Same instructions for Byleth and Min Min. These were essentially characters that would have made the cut for the game, but were shelved due to a lack of time, and were later finished and released for the fighter's passes. The point being, it's not up to Sakurai whether or not a character will make the cut. It's up to the corrupt faceless hire-ups he was employed by. Sure Sakurai can request ideas, but they have to be approved first before they can begin development. And this includes approval by his elites. This man has been breaking his back and being frequently hospitalized because of his dedication to this franchise he loves dearly. Although I applaud him for making things work with his orders, it's insulting he goes through all this effort for characters he remotely likes and then gets bombarded on the daily by clueless cynical Nintendo fanboys.
https://youtu.be/MRdb-YXxG10

PlayStation All-Stars did this in spades and we didn't hear the end of it. All of a sudden, Nintendo gets away with it because of a globally recognizable franchise? Hmmmmm.........

I can't blame you though Emp, it is a tricky situation as you and I know damn well we have no clue what goes on behind Nintendo's shiny Willy Wonka gates. But all I am trying to point out is I don't think Sakurai wants bad things to happen to Smash fans or Melee fans. This is his baby after all; his life's work (besides Kirby). Yes, Sakurai has constantly expressed his dislike towards competitive play. But the point is he's not against competitiveness. He's against people playing for fame and money. He just wants people to have fun with these games, he doesn't want people to succumb to insane methods and tactics that could potentially hurt themselves as a means towards victory. I'm not here to defend his line of thinking or whatever, it just is what it is.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/masahiro_sakurai_isnt_concerned_about_competitive_aspect_of_super_smash_bros

Also Emp, please do not use Twitter. Twitter is a cesspool of all things fanboy-ey and then some.

I'm not saying I hate everything Disney or everything Nintendo. It's just important we stop putting these corporations on a pedestal and start treating them like corporations.

I am open to counter-arguments!

Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group. The distinction between fans and “stans” doesn’t work because the word and its connotations aren’t going to shame people. Words depend on how they’re used. If people call themselves “stans” when they mean that they just like something a lot, there’s nothing wrong with that.

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 @Zadamanim  First off, I never wanted to glorify workaholism. Workaholism is still very very bad. However, workaholism in Japan is a much harder problem to solve than you might think. At least in the US, people have the choice to frown upon workaholism collectively. But Japan has a completely different social structure than the US. The United State's philosophy is individualism. We fight for our freedoms, we celebrate holidays of historical milestones, and we have individual houses with individual lots. Japan's philosophy is collective responsibility. People are socially expected to work and strive for the group rather than the individual. For example, when a Japanese person is feeling sick or is but absolutely needs to continue with the day, they wear a mask in public in order to prevent others from getting ill as well. Do I even need to explain masks in the States? Workaholism has been ingraned in Japan ever since World War II, where the country was faced with the unprecedented challenge to rebuild their economy from the brink of extinction. This made putting the population at work a mandatory errand and inevitably engrained productivity into Japanese ways of living. This dedication to the group not only meant loyalty to the company and expected overwork, but also getting to know your bosses and colleagues. It's not that it's required, it's the societal norm. So it should come as no surprise as to why workaholism and death by overwork are such blatant issues in Japan.

To quote this article by Japan Yugen: "Children were raised to believe that the ultimate goal is to become a Salaryman. This is a colloquial local term used in Japan. It refers to white-collar workers who show exemplary loyalty and dedication to the corporations they work for. The value proposition was very simple. The company offers you lifetime employment. And what they expect in return is loyalty and hard work."

https://japanyugen.com/work-hours-in-japan-the-dedicated-working-culture-in-japanese-society/

https://youtu.be/9Y-YJEtxHeo

It's like if someone from Japan learned about America and complained about how everyone over there is obese. Like, no fucking shit. But it comes as a surprise and shock to foreigners. You know how people in America hate that everyone else is obese and stupid? I will guarantee you there are people in Japan who hate how everyone is work-obssessed and their country is a marketer's wet dream.

With all of that being said, I don't want Sakurai to work till he's dead. No one would want that for him. But in the culture he's from, it's generally frowned upon to abandon or be put apart from your contributions or your "life's work" as some also put it. I'm sure you know who Hayao Miyazaki is? He is a legendary Japanese director who is 80 years old and still directs films. If he was from America, he would've retired a long time ago. I want as much as anyone for Sakurai and Miyazaki to have happy retirements. Like I said, no one would want him to work into the grave, but It's not like we have the powers to stop him. It's not up to us. It sucks, but that's the hard facts.

It's also not irresponsible to consider video game directors are and have been fulfilling their visions through the medium of video games for decades now. Sakurai's original idea for Super Smash Bros. was to be a fighting game anyone can play and master. He got his idea because he noticed a problem for casual gamers when it came to fighting games in the arcade. They felt intimidated to play them because of their competitive nature. He doesn't want Super Smash Bros. to be competitive because those were never his original intentions, and this is a bible enscription he has stuck by throughout the entirety of the Super Smash Bros. series.

Yes, Sakurai and his team carry the capacity of mistakes and poor decisions. I'm not here to redirect all the game's negative aspects to faceless higher-ups. I'm just pointing the facts out that he was deliberately tasked with adding some fighters for the sake of marketing and profit.

Obviously, all companies carry the ability to fire their employees. But just because the director is a part of a larger entity objectively does not take away from their impact on the project they are working on. Konami disposed of Hideo Kojima, but that led them to more slots machines and Metal Gear Survive, stuff that deliberately ignores Kojima's artistry. Kojima went on to direct Death Stranding, one of the most well received games of it's year. If Kojima never even directed the Silent Hill series in the first place, the horror game genre would've been set back dramatically. And I should elaborate Sakurai is not and should not be forced to continue with one or two series his entire career. The man is a creative and I personally would love to see him depart from what he's known for to pursue other fresh and enticing ideas.

Let's compare this to directing in films. A creative director can have an idea for a film, sure. But it will take a lot of people and a lot of resources to make it happen to the fullest extent. So then, would you consider the movie simply a product of the company it was made by? No, you shouldn't! You shouldn't consider Mulholland Drive simply a product of Universal because that's the company that the film is owned by. Regardless of who owns that film, the work is an expression by director David Lynch and should be renouned as such. The same applies to video games.

Considering video games to be simply products of a corporation is such an inconsiderate and cynical response.

I personally wouldn't buy something just because there is someone recognizable on it. It's marketing bullshit, you're right. But creative people are capable of making fuck ups. Sometimes, something comes out the wrong way and results in a disaster. It's happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future. We understand that Kojima is a fantastic creative, but we don't enjoy one of his projects simply because HE directed it. There's more to it than that. Silent Hill fans clearly do not like the Silent Hill movies, because the Silent Hill movies are blatant cash grabs. The same goes for Sakurai.

I think what you might be trying to say is Sakurai does not understand why people deliberately turn SSB into a competitive game, and you are right there. Like I said earlier, those were never his intentions in the first place. The problem arises where he has this fixed mindset that makes him think stopping these efforts will help anyone out. It doesn't and never has. I think the right decision is to just leave the Melee community alone. They were doing just fine on their own and they weren't even hurting Nintendo or anyone. People no matter what will want to make something competitive, and Smash is no different.

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 @Zadamanim  First off, I never wanted to glorify workaholism. Workaholism is still very very bad. However, workaholism in Japan is a much harder problem to solve than you might think. At least in the US, people have the choice to frown upon workaholism collectively. But Japan has a completely different social structure than the US. The United State's philosophy is individualism. We fight for our freedoms, we celebrate holidays of historical milestones, and we have individual houses with individual lots. Japan's philosophy is collective responsibility. People are socially expected to work and strive for the group rather than the individual. For example, when a Japanese person is feeling sick or is but absolutely needs to continue with the day, they wear a mask in public in order to prevent others from getting ill as well. Do I even need to explain masks in the States? Workaholism has been ingraned in Japan ever since World War II, where the country was faced with the unprecedented challenge to rebuild their economy from the brink of extinction. This made putting the population at work a mandatory errand and inevitably engrained productivity into Japanese ways of living. This dedication to the group not only meant loyalty to the company and expected overwork, but also getting to know your bosses and colleagues. It's not that it's required, it's the societal norm. So it should come as no surprise as to why workaholism and death by overwork are such blatant issues in Japan.

To quote this article by Japan Yugen: *"Children were raised to believe that the ultimate goal is to become a Salaryman. This is a colloquial local term used in Japan. It refers to white-collar workers who show exemplary loyalty and dedication to the corporations they work for. The value proposition was very simple. The company offers you lifetime employment. And what they expect in return is loyalty and hard work."*
https://japanyugen.com/work-hours-in-japan-the-dedicated-working-culture-in-japanese-society/
https://youtu.be/9Y-YJEtxHeo

It's like if someone from Japan learned about America and complained about how everyone over there is obese. Like, no fucking shit. But it comes as a surprise and shock to foreigners. You know how people in America hate that everyone else is obese and stupid? I will guarantee you there are people in Japan who hate how everyone is work-obssessed and their country is a marketer's wet dream.

With all of that being said, I don't want Sakurai to work till he's dead. No one would want that for him. But in the culture he's from, it's generally frowned upon to abandon or be put apart from your contributions or your "life's work" as some also put it. I'm sure you know who Hayao Miyazaki is? He is a legendary Japanese director who is 80 years old and still directs films. If he was from America, he would've retired a long time ago. I want as much as anyone for Sakurai and Miyazaki to have happy retirements. Like I said, no one would want him to work into the grave, but It's not like we have the powers to stop him. It's not up to us. It sucks, but that's the hard facts.

It's also not irresponsible to consider video game directors are and have been fulfilling their visions through the medium of video games for decades now. Sakurai's original idea for Super Smash Bros. was to be a fighting game anyone can play and master. He got his idea because he noticed a problem for casual gamers when it came to fighting games in the arcade. They felt intimidated to play them because of their competitive nature. He doesn't want Super Smash Bros. to be competitive because those were never his original intentions, and this is a bible enscription he has stuck by throughout the entirety of the Super Smash Bros. series.

Yes, Sakurai and his team carry the capacity of mistakes and poor decisions. I'm not here to redirect all the game's negative aspects to faceless higher-ups. I'm just pointing the facts out that he was deliberately tasked with adding some fighters for the sake of marketing and profit.

Obviously, all companies carry the ability to fire their employees. But just because the director is a part of a larger entity objectively does not take away from their impact on the project they are working on. Konami disposed of Hideo Kojima, but that led them to more slots machines and Metal Gear Survive, stuff that deliberately ignores Kojima's artistry. Kojima went on to direct Death Stranding, one of the most well received games of it's year. If Kojima never even directed the Silent Hill series in the first place, the horror game genre would've been set back dramatically. And I should elaborate Sakurai is not and should not be forced to continue with one or two series his entire career. The man is a creative and I personally would love to see him depart from what he's known for to pursue other fresh and enticing ideas.

Let's compare this to directing in films. A creative director can have an idea for a film, sure. But it will take a lot of people and a lot of resources to make it happen to the fullest extent. So then, would you consider the movie simply a product of the company it was made by? No, you shouldn't! You shouldn't consider Mulholland Drive simply a product of Universal because that's the company that the film is owned by. Regardless of who owns that film, the work is an expression by director David Lynch and should be renouned as such. The same applies to video games.

Considering video games to be simply products of a corporation is such an inconsiderate and cynical response.

I personally wouldn't buy something just because there is someone recognizable on it. It's marketing bullshit, you're right. But creative people are capable of making fuck ups. Sometimes, something comes out the wrong way and results in a disaster. It's happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future. We understand that Kojima is a fantastic creative, but we don't enjoy one of his projects simply because HE directed it. There's more to it than that. Silent Hill fans clearly do not like the Silent Hill movies, because the Silent Hill movies are blatant cash grabs. The same goes for Sakurai.

I think what you might be trying to say is Sakurai does not understand why people deliberately turn SSB into a competitive game, and you are right there. Like I said earlier, those were never his intentions in the first place. The problem arises where he has this fixed mindset that makes him think stopping these efforts will help anyone out. It doesn't and never has. I think the right decision is to just leave the Melee community alone. They were doing just fine on their own and they weren't even hurting Nintendo or anyone. People no matter what will want to make something competitive, and Smash is no different.

@Zadamanim, I had noticed your comment was somehow removed from the video. Fortunately, my computer's memory preserved your comment and I have taken the time to save both of our comments on a Google Doc just in case they are removed again. So for clarification as to what I am responding to, here is your original comment:

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You bring up valid points. The main thing I disagree with is that your posts glorifies workaholism as a virtue. It is not virtuous to work yourself into a hospital bed and no one should applaud Sakurai for this. Workaholism is something that is very prevalent in Japanese culture, since leaving your office is seen as abandoning your post, so many people choose to stay many hours after work in their office doing other things, even if it's not work related, and they will be complemented by their coworkers for it. The developers of Super Metroid recall sleeping in their offices and eating microwaved food for an extended period of time during its development. There is no evidence that these unhealthy working conditions lead to making better games, if anything there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary. If you look up crunch time, you will find many articles talking about how crunch is a failure of the management, not an achievement of the worker.

As for Smash being Sakurai's baby, I think this is also an irresponsible view point. There is nothing keeping Nintendo from firing Sakurai and handing over development of Smash to another developer. Smash is not his possession, it's a product that he works on. It is the product of MANY developers, testers, marketers, and so on. The idea that this is "Sakurai's" game is a "celebrity developer" issue. People will buy a Hideo Kojima game just because he worked on it, for example. This puts a disproportionate amount of blame for a game's success or failure on the shoulders of one person in the eyes of the world, when it's not the case at all. I think Nintendo has more celebrity developers than any other developer, except for maybe Square Enix. I just see it as a marketing gimmick. For example, a celebrity developer like Yoko Taro with his silly mask and eccentric gags really captures that. Point is, I don't think we should see Smash as a Sora Ltd or a Nintendo game since it's mainly developed by Bandai Namco. It's a Bandai Namco game with a celebrity developer from Nintendo advertising it. You can't even really say he's responsible for the direction of the game when people constantly say "oh Sakurai HAD to put X or Y in the game because the higher ups told him to." People attribute everything good about the game to Sakurai and everything bad about the game to faceless executives / lawyers when really that's just Nintendo's marketing working on you. Being a celebrity developer isn't even a good position for Sakurai to be in because he apparently gets a lot of death threats from mentally ill twitter users.

Sakurai has always skirted around the issue of Smash being a party game or a fighting game, and I think the reason he doesn't go all-in and just say it's a particular genre of game is because he doesn't want Smash to live up to the same expectations as other games. Fighting games get a lot of flack nowadays for not having rollback netcode, and yet Smash's netcode is probably the worst of any fighting game I've played. If you say "well it's not a fighting game so you can't compare them" then congratulations, Sakurai's trick has worked on you. You'd willingly accept the crappy netcode and lack of basic competitive features (like a standardized ruleset) and even the outright hostility aimed at the competitive scene just because the celebrity developer said he didn't feel they were important. From any other developer this would appear extremely pretentious.

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@ETHAN CHANG Do you have the sources for these claims?

I wrote a comment saying earlier workaholism is bad for people and we shouldnt celebrate Sakurai for working himself into a hospital bed. Crunch is a failure of the management, not the success of the worker. The other thing I said was that celebrity developers are a marketing gimmick because SSBU is made primarily by Bandai Namco, not Sakurai or Nintendo. You can hardly say Sakurai is even leading development when half the excuses I hear people make are that "nintendo executives" told him to put X or Y in the game. It's also not good for him when a bunch of mentally ill fanboys send him death threats on Twitter.

My original comment went into way more detail.

I'm starting to think making full essays in youtube comments is a waste of time. You might as well make a whole video essay and get a bunch of views. Because I know the feel when you're typing so much stuff, look up, and realize its the fuckin youtube comment section.

@ETHAN CHANG  Byleth, Min Min, and Pyra / Mythra were all originally going to appear in the standard roster, but were temporarily shelved due to time constraints. Among those, Byleth was ordered for development to promote FE Three Houses and Pyra / Mythra to promote XBC2, as I said.

Sakurai was personally asked to bring Minecraft and Tekken to the game, you are correct there. But he was asked by Mojang and Namco respectively. That is completely different from being ordered by Nintendo higher-ups. Fire Emblem and Arms are Nintendo IPs, and Xenoblade Chronicles has been and continues to be a Nintendo exclusive IP. What I am criticizing is orders for development because of mischevious marketing. I guess you could argue Kazuya was put in to advertise Tekken 7, but that game came out years ago. And the latest Tekken game was some mobile spinoff from 2018. And Tekken 8 repordetly won't launch until a very long time from now. And Steve? Sure, Minecraft has been ported numerous times before and had a Switch port rather recently and a resurgence in popularity thanks to YouTubers, so I guess he's more probable.

But the real facts are here: It's unlikely he was given explicit orders by Mojang and Namco to develop their fighters. Sakurai has probably gotten dozens upon hundreds of personal requests and collaborations, but he chooses fighters to the best of his ability and also based on their unique playstyles and the ideas Sakurai gets from them and their origin games. He undeniably has a passion for developing for the game, regardless of characters. This is an ever-present theme in his Famitsu Columns, his "presents" videos showcasing newcomers, and various other interviews and speaking roles.
https://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-minecraft-in-smash-bros-ultimate-making-steve-complex-breaking-twitter/

Where did my reply go? I wrote a fairly long one...

Honestly, I wouldn't mind Sakurai leaving smash to focus on different games, since I feel like smash is gradually losing it's charm, most likely due to corporate demands as essentially the game is essentially a system seller. I seem to recall that Nintendo would continue making smash Bros even if Sakurai left. With the exception of the characters, the rest of ultimate doesn't seem to have that Sakurai charm that some people get divided over, such as the UI, or additional features no one cares about other then a few like me.

Kid Icarus uprising was an amazing game and pulled all the stops to make it the best it could be, but I feel nowadays Nintendo would never greenlight these kinds of hardcore projects that are totally unknown in terms of planned reception and sales. It exhuded that Sakurai charm down to even the gameplay and some people were divided as a result.


Nintendo lived long enough to see itself become the villain.


Bro, you wanna talk ratio, talk about a fucking gear box


I have a love-hate relationship with Nintendo, hell I first watched this video on my switch for fucks sake. But the shit they have done absolutely baffles me! Like how the fuck do they keep thinking it’s a good idea. But in all honesty, I can’t really hate them because they do make good games, yet I hate the way they run their business. It’s honestly kinda confusing for me actually.


They suck so bad but they make bangers  of games


It's true as much as us Nintendo fans don't want to admit. Personally I found the line crossed when they took down some pretty well known videos of some very classic Donkey Kong Country music, that was seen to be a save spot for many to talk about their lives and unify together

...THEY TOOK DOWN THE CHECKPOINT VIDEOS????

@coatlessali with all their shitty decisions, AND joycon drift, AND the exuberant prices, I see no reason to buy from them for switch :/

@Caleb Productions ah yes, I remember the day I scrolled down to the channel and it said it had been taken down.

I think it's back now thou

dont tell me they took down THAT channel

I haven't legitimately purchased a switch game since the Slippi controversy. Fuck this company.

Remember BrawlBRSTM3 X or whatever his full channel name was? He also gotten his channel taken down because despite caring about the channel so much, his subs didn’t do shit to remind him to delete every single Nintendo song that was on his channel.

Holy crap, they took those videos down? What a complete scumbag thing to do.

@GodZpeed X7II stop being a fanboy dude.. Realize their mistakes

You talking about the checkpoint right?? I knew something was wrong because I was not able to find it..<br>What unfortunate

You talking about the checkpoint right?? I knew something was wrong because I was not able to find it..
What unfortunate

Here are the videos, unfortunately the comments are  lost but it's better than nothing: https://hobune.stream/channels/taia777   hope it's useful :)

I have seen that exact video with a Japanese title and all oh, I can't believe they would take something like that down

I didnt want to believe it was true, nintendo is soulless

I will never forgive Nintendo for taking down the channel that posted what was probably my favorite video of all time, which was a rip of Bowser's Road extended to play for 30 minutes


Lol jerma sus face is everywhere these days


"Nintendo ranks up there with Monsanto, coal companies, and the mob" <b>goddamn, now that's one hell of a phrase.</b>

"Nintendo ranks up there with Monsanto, coal companies, and the mob" *goddamn, now that's one hell of a phrase.*

The CEO who brought Nintendo to the forefront of toys and novelty games and moved them away from making playing cards was likely a Yakuza. Hell before Nintendo even switched to toys and games they owned gambling dens and love hotels.