I don’t care for the Smash Community or FreeMelee, but I agree the corporate practices are very terrible. Unfortunately it is their intellectual property. 😑

I’m surprised Melee fans haven’t made their own characters and game with similar Melee mechanics in it. Nintendo has so many cool titles that are iconic and I enjoy Smash Ultimate! It’s through those shady practices Emp highlighted like poor quality joy cons, hammering down on content like Nintendo soundtracks, access to old titles, that I can’t fully back Nintendo.

Usually Nintendo’s content is so fun to me that it generally overshadows these practices to me. However, it is changing. Seeing the financial juggernaut of Pokémon release hollow shells of content in SwSh that their DLC should have been included in the first place has started to make resent the company and GameFreak. Only played SwSh as a gift from a friend and don’t plan on buying the next Gen either until full reviews come out.


Is it wrong to say Nintendo is basically a toxic significant other?


You emphasized that Nintendo is foreign a bit too much. Google is at least as abusive as Nintendo. It doesn't matter that the users share a nationality with the corporate chairmen. In fact, Nintendo not being US-based at least makes it slightly more difficult for the US government to seize Nintendo's data on us

name one time where emp talked about nintendo being strict because they are a japanese company because this makes absolutely no sense


Oh how you have forgotten the less than dismal sales of the Wii U, 13 million units sold. The fans voted with their wallets and castrated Nintendo.


18:00 God one of my favorite Ytp of all time. still makes me buss to this day. oh and vid was pretty good too 😎


Yup, the least Consumer Friendly and perhaps most Worshipped G'damned brand... At least per ratio....


Ik it's a short clip but thanks for showing TF2 some love.


This Video is Very Funny and Fun to Watch


An unstoppable force strikes an immovable object...


Oh god, the etikon situation? Really dude? That whole shit show was bad on captn Alex’s fault


I rember when I was like, 9, I made YouTube video about a level I made in super Mario flash 2. It had mario music. The video got copyright claimed.


EDIT: Do NOT pass this comment and say that it won't work. If you do, you're just proving to me that you're one of those people that do nothing to fix any of the situation.

I should also mention that even the people that are NOT hardcore Nintendo-defending fanboys won't do anything to help the situation either. There's literally a way to contact Nintendo specialists in their own website. Do you need more proof for it? Well, it's below what I typed. Basically, you have to call the customer support phone number, then you have to press 0 every time they give you options on who you're trying to reach (just press 0 and no other key), and you'll actually get a specialist. I managed to do that twice, and I was allowed to give them my concern (mostly the YouTube copyright takedowns) both times. I was then told that my feedback would be routed to other workers at Nintendo. That said, I think it needs enough people doing the same thing. If I'm the only one doing it when it actually works, how are we going to see any improvements? I guarantee that if lots of people do what I did twice, the people working at Nintendo of America would easily consider fixing it. Speaking of Nintendo of America, maybe they need more control over fan uploads and fan games like Sega of America does.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact

Nintendo of America

4600 150th Ave NE

Redmond, WA 98052
https://www.nintendo.com/about/

EDIT: Do *NOT* pass this comment and say that it won't work. If you do, you're just proving to me that you're one of those people that do nothing to fix any of the situation.

I should also mention that even the people that are *NOT* hardcore Nintendo-defending fanboys won't do anything to help the situation either. There's literally a way to contact Nintendo specialists in their own website. Do you need more proof for it? Well, it's below what I typed. Basically, you have to call the customer support phone number, then you have to press 0 every time they give you options on who you're trying to reach (just press 0 and no other key), and you'll actually get a specialist. I managed to do that twice, and I was allowed to give them my concern (mostly the YouTube copyright takedowns) both times. I was then told that my feedback would be routed to other workers at Nintendo. That said, I think it needs enough people doing the same thing. If I'm the only one doing it when it actually works, how are we going to see any improvements? I guarantee that if lots of people do what I did twice, the people working at Nintendo of America would easily consider fixing it. Speaking of Nintendo of America, maybe they need more control over fan uploads and fan games like Sega of America does.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact

Nintendo of America
4600 150th Ave NE
Redmond, WA 98052
https://www.nintendo.com/about/


here before nintendo copyright claims this video


There will never ever be another fallout new vegas


Live from Melee Hell, its Another EmpLemon video!


So anyways, xbox players trashed xbox one after that E3 where a playstation employee got in the public division and after that Xbox has been doing more progamer stuff, some time ago they tried to get a higher price in gold, and the backlash was so big they not only reeled, they took the ship back to the port and sold the goddam rod and bait. Maybe this happened cause tey dont want 2016 to happen again,but it shows what players can do to make Playstation or Nintendo to backtrack, at least a little. But because the show no change or consideration they are condemned to fail and continue eating the shit these companies throw at them. Now Xbox is trying its hardest to succed after the backlash they had been getting after the paid online, but also, some people are forgetting about the misses of xbox, Xbox players are getting their guard down,  and maybe Xbox will strile again one day, but for now? For now Xbox is trying its best to keep the fanbase they have


I mean I could throw away my switch right now and stay away from nintendo games but would I really be doing anyone a favor? Lol no, because they have a million others buying their products so the only one losing would me. I'll just play the games I like and carry on with my life.

@Wandering the Wastes you've reminded me of something, basically there was this fake story thing about some rich guy wanting milk in his pool (idk why but) and the fist guy goes "eh ill just put water into it no one will notice", then the second guy says that same thing, inevitably, the pool was filled with water

This type of mentality is actively harmful to positive change. If people acted like this, there wouldn't even be games in the first place (because we would still be in the Middle Ages)


And don't get me started on joycon drift!


Good thing I switched to Sony already lol.

sony isnt flawless either they very much try to copy popular trends and make lesser versions. They also a few years ago had huge issues with allowing crossplay and they still make you pay for online even though their system has compromised tens of thousands of PlayStation accounts


But hey, that’s just a theory…

Mmm Mac and Cheese


The fact you even had to explain the ratio part is disheartening. Like, yeah, obviously. But no, there are people out there who don’t understand that.

bro I didn't understand it, when you surround yourself with people who all say emp is wrong, even though it looks right to you, you assume he must be wrong. I'm glad I grew out of that.


9:36 sunset overdrive was released on Xbox game pass


You should do a video on how there will never be another "Prince".


I loved the BarneyIsPerverted footage at 18:00


the cultish fanboyism of nintendo enables their slacking off


When talking about Nintendo fans being forgetful about the past wrongdoing, I think it is important to remember that "Nintendo fans" are such a wide variety of people. When something bad happeneds to the smash bros community you still have a very large portion of other fan bases just excited for what's next. Nintendo has made so many games and genres that each section has its own diehard fan base.


wow this is way more fucked than i imagined. anyways, check out temtem for an infinitely better pokemon like game


You guys are still gonna buy their games, so.....


12:40 pokemon brick bronze, it was so good


Why the f*** didn't YouTube tell me about this immediately a week later thanks for keeping me up on events YouTube


Heard you gonna delete your ytps bad idea please make a archive on alternative sites like odysee so people can still watch your masterpieces

He indeed did back up his stuff on Odysee.


Mfw hazardous environments starts playing


Emuparadise. Taken from us too soon. You'll be always remembered as the site that didn't try to infect your computer when you wanted top quality ROMs unlike those Inglorious Bastards over at CoolROMs. Love Live Emulation For Preservation!

@Larry Laffer Yeah thanks for responding and agreeing with me.

@ZM256 Exactly. It was not only convenient it was safe. It had wall to wall roms with no fear of nasty viruses. Even someone who didn't know much about ROMs could tread lightly without fear.

Emuparadise was my go to site for ROMs. I liked it since it was a very reliable site and did not look as sketchy as other ones. I don’t remember if it was CoolROMs but I recall my sibling, who didn’t know as much about emulation, tried to download a ROM from one of those other sites and they verified with me if what they downloaded was safe. I immediately noticed that it was an exe file and deleted it. I told them next time to download ROMs on Emuparadise. It was such a shame to see it become another victim of Nintendo.


Hey emp if you see this I just wanted to say that I think this video was just ok it felt like you just said stuff a million people have already talked about but I am excited for the next upload

Ok I will say after thinking about it more yes  he did make a lot of good points but for me personally I had seen all of these points made but it was a good compilation of this and they were all contented and presented nicely and the fan base part was original but every thing was stuff I had seen before

Well nobody seems to give a shit and I’m glad he said it


I went back to the tweet and holy shit he wasn’t lying about the amount of brain dead fanboys that attacked Emp

@Pixel Dot he's less active there, citing the site's toxicity.

@Zavt Particles instas better for art imo

GAMP: Sicker than your average kigger nilller

lol its twitter what do you expect , emp should also stay away form using it , unless it was intentional to get the fabase's reaction


Sega does what Nintendon’t:<br>Accept the existence of fan games, rom hacks, and mods.

Sega does what Nintendon’t:
Accept the existence of fan games, rom hacks, and mods.

@UC1cAzq1GzEecMsnXWprSzeQ Again, I don't really care what companies do. Besides even if I did, what would I do? Type an angry YouTube comment, while millions of others are buying it? About SSHD I will be buying that game, because I haven't played. I didn't buy Mario 3D Allstars because I don't love any of the games enough to buy them again, even when they're all together.

@Sean Foo CH Companies aren't my friends. So I don't care what they do morally or whatever. What's important to me is the quality of the products they put out

@Sean Foo CH I didn't buy that game, but I have played all of the games in that collection. The only bad one is Mario Sunshine

@BitchChill <b>laugh in Mario 3d all stars</b>

@BitchChill *laugh in Mario 3d all stars*

@BitchChill Ok You Dont Have To Give Him Backlash Just Express How You Feel.

Okay, and? Am I supposed to like them more? They drop trash

I Heard That Someone Said That The Creaters Of Sonic Mainia Were Not Paid <br>But Nintendo And Most Japan Corperations Should Improve More With Most Of Their Acts

I Heard That Someone Said That The Creaters Of Sonic Mainia Were Not Paid
But Nintendo And Most Japan Corperations Should Improve More With Most Of Their Acts


“The past 20 years have shown us that Nintendo’s most passionate supporters become their most forsaken”

Bruh, why you have to call me out like that


I've sent several emails complaining to Nintendo in the past but always get the same lukewarm half response about noting my concern's. They are still the only company I've ever heard of where the execs and management took a pay cut to save jobs so they deserve some credit for that in the end All Corporations Are Bad


To say nothing of how the Overwatch fandom accepted Blizzard throwing out SJW-bait any time a controversy occurred, and immediately forgot about any wrongdoing every single time.


I wonder if Nintendo revealing Sephiroth was done on purpose to rid themselves of the backlash. If they announced Pyra/Mythra instead of Sephiroth then it would’ve continued I feel


You know, I stopped renewing my wifi license after it wore out, and refused to buy the dlc after Nintendo showed their poor treatment of their fans.  I had thought that other people would do the same, but when they didn't I wasn't sure if I was the one who was thinking the wrong way.  When I saw your tweet that shared my sentiments,  I realized it was the community that was the issue.  I remember Omni stating this same thing, that all of the people pissed about Nintendo's actions still lined up to get the Sephiroth dlc, so there was no way things would change.  It sucked realizing that I was in the minority for actually trying to fight back, but then accepted that's just the way it is going to be.


I guess it can't be chalked up to a cultural issue because other Japanese companies aren't as bad with this


Alternative to switch is the true answer, but it will take our life time to do it.

Valve is a solution that we got, not sure whether it's a good solution, though


Most of Dunkeys viewership base needs to see this.


This is legitimately such a good video, I love your work!


It's ironic how the company that rescued the video game industry from its first crash will be the one most likely responsible for its second.


That’s a great point about Sakurai. People like to forget what a dick he was back in the Brawl days. Sure, he’s mellowed out now and seems way more understanding to the fans. But it was a different story back then. <br>Great video.

That’s a great point about Sakurai. People like to forget what a dick he was back in the Brawl days. Sure, he’s mellowed out now and seems way more understanding to the fans. But it was a different story back then.
Great video.


EmpLemon must have learned Shock Wave because this video didn’t miss. I hope this can be the shock to remind people that a corporation is not infallible and to use our agency to improve conditions overall.

It only makes sense that when government and corporations fail us, the people and our emulations will always be there


Not even a week later, a switch with little improvements to its display and network connections releases as the company’s sacrifices were not enough


Emplemon I like your work, I have information for you. Sakurai himself taught people about wavedashing (not by that name) in the early melee boards. Much of the advanced tech in melee is supposed to be there, though some are surely exploits and bugs.


I feel like you don't see "the Nintendo fandom" brought up in discussions about toxic fandoms because of how different it can be depending on which franchise you latched onto as a child.

My childhood nintendo video games were Metroid. The majority of online discourse and approach I see from Metroid fans is extremely cautious and defensively postured. Even the recent announcement of Metroid Dread one of the bigger sentiments I see is "I'll only buy it if it's actually good."

Let alone how all the people that are still hanging onto the idea of another F-zero or proper Starfox game feel about Nintendo.

@Skasaha I don't some people arent fans of franchises, they're fans of the concept of nintendo. My father fits this to a tee. sure he'll name zelda as an option but he will tell you he loves their games yet refuses to buy 95% of their franchises. there's just people out there who refuse to have any nuances to them.

I think it's generally pretty disingenuous to call someone a Nintendo fan anyway. They've been around so long and have such a broad library (in terms of genre and demographic appeal) that's its basically impossible to find a 'Nintendo' fan rather than a fan of Nintendo properties. Comparatively Blizzard's identity is focused in on basically five tangentially related and (relatively) niche games, so they have incredible overlap.


I wish Nintendo fans would stop buying online. That service needs to crash and burn.


What amazes me is that this just the tip of the Nintendo BS iceberg. How about the fact that essentially, unless you have all compatible amiibo for a game, you might not have all features. While sometimes the amiibo content is just niche bonus-stuff that does not matter, other times it's surprisingly essential.


Very important video. It's come to the point where this overtly hubris attitude of Nintendo drives me to boykott their products - and I don't enjoy that prospect, some of my favorite games and franchises ever are theirs (evident from my picture I'd say), but it's gone too far and it's quite clear they will do nothing to change unless they will feel a monetary impact.


As a nintendo fan, I utterly hate nintendo.

LOL JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD IS ROTTING IN THE TRASH LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 LOL LMAO

@Ben Halverson I honestly wouldn't care if they just released the old ones, but that's the issue, they don't.

It's been nearly twenty years since the last real F-Zero game and Nintendo has torpedoed multiple opportunities to make follow ups.  Their excuse?  They don't know what to do with another F-Zero.  They made the same effing Zelda game for twenty years, but they have no idea how to make another F-Zero?  That's just amazing to me.


whats the movie title ftor the last clip again ?


Nintendo is terrific at making games, but is truly awful as a company, with few exceptions. (Reggie.) It’s remarkable how the two aspects coexist with one another.

@ModernMeta it's basic business, he's the head of the company, therefore he definitely knows about most of the shit Nintendo is doing, all of it, nothing I said here was "strong" at all

Hey, I’m pretty uninformed. Since you guys seem to have strong opinions, would you mind lending me a few links so I can start doing my own research on the matter?

Reggie was responsible for all of the shitty practices, step out of Neverland.

@ModernMeta Reggie definitely had more of a say than what you give him credit for and deserves more blame than you are awarding him.

@Spanky Pants True as that may be, Reggie was also responsible for many of the games and interactions that we love about Nintendo. Also, being that he was the president of Nintendo of America, he most likely didn’t have as much of a stake in major company decisions, as those are hosted in Japan. But I can’t deny flaws in the localization and port departments, a la Mother 3 and the cancellation of Virtual Console. Reggie has made plenty of mistakes, but I think the good outweighs the bad.

Reggie oversaw all the shit Nintendo did, he was the president of the American devision of the company. He was responsible for all their shitty business practices.

They're not even that great at making games.

Watch the video again, most of these things happened under Reggie.

I really hate Nintendo but I can't bring myself to not love Reggie, guy's a chad

Nintendo is the GM of video games: make great, cheap products, is a big name in the world of business, but very shitty as a company


Somehow, I gained an increase of positive mental health changes this past year when I restricted myself from any Nintendo media and anything that’s slightly related to the topic and switched to mainly PC, I wonder why.

Because you need a soapbox to get on. That's why

I think this is a relatively new thing. Getting so involved/invested in online "communities" that it hurts your mental health.

Glad you got out of it and feel better now!

I want to be like you so bad. I want to drop Nintendo, I want to be done and move on. I just can’t do it because I love some of their games. This is the worst fucking part, they get to you. They put on such an innocent demeanor to then shoot you in the foot later. Thank God I can just buy there games used.

@Freshly Memed Not sure about that...Smash? The Smash community is terrible. I mean, where do you even begin. The competitive community has so many problems with hating on each other for preferring different games in the series, the allegations in the competitive scene, the amount of divide there is when new fighters are announced...<br>Man, just...man. I wouldn't say the Smash community isn't in there with the other toxic communities.

@Freshly Memed Not sure about that...Smash? The Smash community is terrible. I mean, where do you even begin. The competitive community has so many problems with hating on each other for preferring different games in the series, the allegations in the competitive scene, the amount of divide there is when new fighters are announced...
Man, just...man. I wouldn't say the Smash community isn't in there with the other toxic communities.

@Freshly Memed Yeah, Smash can be pretty toxic as well but the Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda fanbases are something else. They act like their favorite games shit doesn’t stink and if you disagree with them on anything then they have a million word essay explaining why everyone who disagrees with them is an idiot as well as mental gymnastics as to why every flaw is actually just something that makes the game better and Nintendo was a genius for adding it. Although a lot of fanbases have grown to hate Nintendo because Nintendo treats franchises like a farmer treats a cow, milking whatever gives them the most product and putting down the rest(not a perfect analogy but you get the gist). I don’t think the fire emblem and Advance Wars hate anyone more than Nintendo at the end of the day. And Metroid and Star Fox fans probably want to strangle Miamoto at this point

I'm thankful the two Nintendo related communities I've ever gotten into was Smash and Monster Hunter. Smash is already a black sheep in the community and everyone in it has some form of hatred towards Nintendo. And Monster Hunter isn't even exclusive to just Nintendo consoles.

I thought trashy practices was just a Pokemon thing, but it was worse than I thought.

Probably because waiting on the hook for a company that openly despises its audience makes one feel, used? Even when the games I was waiting for are released they always have problems or are disappointing in some way, but Nintendo couldn’t care less as they slap $20 DLCs onto every game they can while not addressing/patching any of the issues in said games. They don’t even care about making decent hardware anymore and are clearly going cheap as possible. Last gen mobile chips, cheaper game production, and to top it all off they release localizations of old games and their classics at a snails pace and sell it to you again every console generation. They hold on by a thread, which is their beloved IP’s which in most cases is neglected or given rushed development to push it out as quickly as possible. Yet everything they do is endlessly praised by their Nintendroid army

PC gaming is quite varied in the communities there is, unlike console gaming communities. I know there are toxic PC gaming communities out there and I can avoid them since they're not shoehorned in my face. I have been playing mostly on Steam for 2 years now after selling my Wii U and have only really looked at guides in the client and I have had a toxic-free experience. Go to any gaming related subreddit or forum and you'll be asking for trouble. At the end of the day most people (and I hope this is the case) just want to play and enjoy games (sometimes with other people), not get into petty arguments with random people that end up being a waste of time with no gain. Nintendo consoles have become a polarising place to game on for me with its elitist or unsatisfied and depressing community, and I also don't think they have the consumer's best interest at heart anymore, which is why I switched to open source.

Same. Unironically It's almost like getting out of an abusive relationship.


I think that this is something important that needs to be brought to light. Nintendo treats most of its customers horribly.

However I disagree with your opinion on smash fans. They are the second only to the smt fandom as being the most toxic depraved fandom in existence and deserved everything that happened to them.

Tangent aside. Seriously big N. You should support fangames and stuff. And also improve your backwards compatibility stuff significantly instead of going after emulation sites. The backwards thinking is mind boggling. Honestly I think pirating Nintendo games is the most ethical way to play them given the companies current practices


What happened to your YouTube poops? I was watching them the other day and thought they were hilarious!


I think the reason Sakurai didn't speak out was because he was afraid of what the higher ups of Nintendo would do to him. Yes he is basically their cash cow creator. But it wouldn't be too far for the higher ups to kick him out

I think people forget that if you work for a company you can't go saying stuff to end your career when you probably have a family depending on you to maintain your job.


This video is even more relevant with the new oled Nintendo switch model that adds nothing but a shiny screen and basic features that should have been in the base model, while charging 350 dollars for it. There’s no real improvement after 4 years and there’s still going to be fanboys who try and justify this, Nintendo fanboys really will buy anything Nintendo related.

I wonder how well the Steam Deck will age.

@Cool Cool Ah, so an inferior cheaper alternative just to get extra money?

@Role Playing Garchomp I <i>still</i> don't understand the appeal of the 2DS

@Role Playing Garchomp I _still_ don't understand the appeal of the 2DS

I remember when the 2DS was announced and I didn’t get it. It’s just a 3DS without the 3D. However Nintendo fanboys kept trying to justify that it was a good idea when it really wasn’t. If my memory serves me correct, they were charging $250 for it at launch which is the same price as the 3DS when it launched.


Aaaand here we go.
Nintendo makes a Switch "revision" with a screen that's marginally larger and cleaner, a better kickstand, and Ethernet. Same joy-con drift, no 4K, no graphical upgrade.
Scalpers will scalp, manchildren will buy in, and Nintendo will continue this awful behavior. Excellent video.

@Wes maybe because people think it's a decent product. I did, it doesn't make me an bootlicker, but I like those games personally. Maybe if you think it's overpriced, don't buy it. But at the end of the day, it's my money and I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.

@Blacktain Falcon Welp the NSO expansion pack certainly doesn't hinder my point lol

@Wes It wasn't advertised terribly well, but it was actually more powerful too. Games ran with less lag on it.

@Blacktain Falcon and even then the New 3DS was pretty lackluster in terms of an upgrade. It had a little thumb stick, marginally better 3D, and like five exclusive games.

Even as a Nintendo fanboy, I think it was a bit underwhelming. However, I highly doubt that this is the Switch Pro. I am more inclined to believe this is more like a 3DS XL situation rather than a New 3DS.


Never knew about their crazy stance on emulators. I remember pokemon dark rising as one of my favorite games I played in highschool


@challengedcat64 • 15 years ago in this sentence  is "they are"

@Riccardo Florio Ya know when I was typing it I thought about changing it to their but I guess I didn't

@challengedcat64 • 15 years ago i said where as a joke, because you said "there" before.

@Riccardo Florio When he says that they don't need to try because they know they have control over their fan base no matter what they put out.


As long as they make games and consoles I like I'll continue to buy them for the entertainment they provide


I mean..  we are still going to buy Breath of the Wild 2.


To be honest, I just think most people weren't aware of the smash/splatoon tournaments and etika controversies.

Imagine you're someone who isn't very interested in esports and mostly stays away from mainstream e-celeb things. Would you be aware of either of these events?

I do think the Nintendo fanbase is unbelievably toxic but I think you could have picked a better example.

I also think it would have been interesting to look through history at Nintendo's bad practices (Such as when developers for the NES were contractually not allowed to develop for other consoles or them trying to appease concerned parents and quash the idea of mature games being allowed to exist (See Howard Lincoln on Night Trap in the 1993 video game violence senate hearings) or the many weird slapfights they've had with second and third party developers etc.)

@tevadotzip Why do people think ratios even matter?<br>It's social media, for reference on how small the amount of people using social media is, about 22% (~1/5th) of the US uses twitter. It's a complete joke. Most normal people won't ever see anything about this company. I mean, look at the views on the trailer to begin with., only 3.4 million people.  Even if it isn't nintendo getting "ratio"ed it doesn't matter, most consumers don't spend all their time on the internet.

@tevadotzip Why do people think ratios even matter?
It's social media, for reference on how small the amount of people using social media is, about 22% (~1/5th) of the US uses twitter. It's a complete joke. Most normal people won't ever see anything about this company. I mean, look at the views on the trailer to begin with., only 3.4 million people.  Even if it isn't nintendo getting "ratio"ed it doesn't matter, most consumers don't spend all their time on the internet.

yeah, I was a little confused on that first part too because out of the other companies used as comparison, Nintendo's audience is seemingly the most diverse and far-reaching... it's a lot easier to have a whole community ratio a companies tweets when that whole community is already connected and pretty similar, maybe looking forward to the same game or whatever. but I can't imagine people who like Nintendo for a more casual or niche part of their catalogue being concerned with (or even aware of) what's going on in something like the competitive Smash communities.


Anyone else find it extremely funny how a Nickelodeon Smash Bros game is going to have a better netcode than Smash Ultimate?


you either die a hero or live long enough to become a hero


Ha! That's why the Nintendo e shop is 95% junk game.

All other online game stores are like that. 90% shovelware


I completly understand why Nintendo wouldnt to be associated with esport. Nintendo is all about casual, family, kid-friendly gaming. There's no room for competition, as it might ruin the game ecosystem and Nintendo's legacy as a whole. Also, I think Nintendo simply did not like the "pro-players" representing them on stage. They also knew those guys were possible liabilities and PR nightmares (which they have proven to be true). Just my two cents.

@Patrick Lewis fr but that stigma doesn’t really come from the idea of esports, but rather from the people involved with them

I’ll agree on that one. Plus competitive gaming on an esports level is kinda sad lmao


Finally someone has the balls to say it.

We need more people. Sadly Jeff from WorldClassBullshitters chickened out.


ok good points but they make some of the greatest games of all time consistently so...I'm conflicted


I absolutely love Nintendo games but getting older and realizing that the fan base is kind of the video equivalent of the “Disney Adult” stereotype is disheartening. I think they make great products a lot of the time and I will probably be a Nintendo “fan” for the foreseeable future, but it’s hard to maintain the passion when the mentality is that if you like something it cannot be criticized.


you sound just like this guy called FUNKe thats very weird


The title and being an emplemon video, you know you're in for a good time


This video perfectly proves my point the call of duty is the best game on the earf.


It has only gotten worse since you released this video.<br>Soon enough you will have enough material for an hypothetical pt. 2.

It has only gotten worse since you released this video.
Soon enough you will have enough material for an hypothetical pt. 2.

Has it I feel its gotten better as people are shitting on the expansion and have been encouraging a boycott on nso.


was i the only one who got an ad for a christian church


I'd say about 4 years ago I was one of these blind Nintendo fans that put them on a pedestal over other companies. Once I built my PC and entered the world of emulation and learned of the outrageous prices Nintendo sells these older games for. then the Pokemon company screwed their hardcore fans over with the pokedex cut, then the smash drama. that's the straw that broke the camels back.

so Nintendo you can suck it. You make great games but terrible business practices and I'll have your entire retro library on my PC for free for all eternity that you charge a monthly fee for switch owners to play with barebone features.


Great video Emp, I’m very glad you stuck out here and really put this into light, please keep doing what you’re doing, you’re a real role-model for some people.


Honestly when I first read the title of this video I was like "Oh man, I'm going to hate this video" but no this video is a lot more subdued than the overbearing title makes it out to be, and agree, I feel fellow Nintendo fans should be less defensive and complain more to the company so actual change happens.

We're smart enough to know that unless 90% of a companies profit comes from 20% if their consumers, we can't do very much. If most of the FGC decides that KoF XV looks like dog shit and don't buy it, SNK takes a massive financial blow, and they'll realize that they made bad games for 10 years, but the fans won't do that. They'll go in knowing the game is bad and still buy it.

I liked it until he fell into usual trap of generalizing large groups of unrelated people, hilariously in the same video he decried the stereotype of competitive Smash players.


It's kinda scary to see Emp get so combative lol. Great video sir, thanks for the knowledge


Something I find sort of hilarious is that the mini snes and nes is just an emulator, to the point that you can straight up just load other ROMs in it no problem. The thing has so much space compared to what the pre-existing ROMs in it take too.


There was a saying going around the Nintendo mod and fangame communities for awhile.  "If you've heard of the project, it's probably been cancelled."  People are afraid for their fan projects to get too popular, this is ridiculous.  Thanks for letting more people know about this Emp :)


This video can be resumed to: “Big entertainment media Corporation Titan gets away with everything because it's entire fanbase are ungrown 40+ years old children”

Now where have I seen that before....

cought Star Wars cough Apple

This video can be resumed to: “Big entertainment media Corporation Titan gets away with everything because it's entire fanbase are ungrown 40+ years old children”

Now where have I seen that before....

*cought* Star Wars *cough* Apple

@oh darn, it’s me You want to kill people because they like something you don't. Who hurt you?

@oh darn, it’s me Jesus, you planning on cutting vegetables with that edge?<br>You can be a fan of something without being one of those bad kinds of fans.

@oh darn, it’s me Jesus, you planning on cutting vegetables with that edge?
You can be a fan of something without being one of those bad kinds of fans.

Apple used to give away computers back in the 80's to high schools, so the high school students would become addicted to them. Apple products are extremely over priced and limited compared to it's counter parts. However, I don't see a problem with Apple fans, as Apple products are alright, but overpriced.

@nutsack vlogz >android

I run Graphene my guy

@TheWaggishAmerican android users coping with their 2p cameras

I think apple is a different kind of consoomer. Nintendo is a great example of the 40 yo manchild, but apple seems more like the soy-infused mouths-agape millenial crowd.


3:34 I’d have to argue that the casual market was at the Wii’s core, and Nintendo internally understood that. Sakurai would have no means for his game to be neutered other than to offer a different experience. Competitive smash wasn’t as big back then. That’s like saying people in the 80’s were waiting for the future to arrive with rose-tinted glasses and all.


Punished EmpLemon, a man who can see all error, but can do little to stop it.


The problem with there fans is that they treat these characters as a extension of there being to fill a hole with something that does not fit


Amazing video, Emp. I love your editing, your style of making videos. I've been watching you for a while, and I've been waiting for this video for a bit. I completely and utterly agree with all of your points. I'm not a hug RPG guy so Sephiroth iclusion was rather lackluster for me, and I could see through the terrible lenses. I hate Nintendo. They made MKWii, and Smash. 2 of my favorite games, ruined over and over by themselves. (My last childhood game is GT4 so I love the music you use for the background ;) )


Glad to see more people speaking up about this. Frankly, I'm sick of the corporate bootlicking and "you just hate fun" mentality for daring to criticize or even question Nintendo's practices.

I don't like how Nintendo minimizes their DLC but I guess  'I hate fun'.


This video is a friendly reminder to stay the hell away from Twitter.

i think twitter is a reminder to stay the hell away from twitter


I wish these crazy Nintendo fans existed 8 years ago when the wii U came out. I wish the system had more love.

What? They did exist. The hardcore Nintendo fanbase just isn't big enough to carry an entire console's sales. A lot of Switch owners are either casual gamers or gamers who own PS/Xbox/PC and want a portable counterpart. The Wii U flopped because the third party support was garbage, meaning it didn't have enough games. The Wii U had no identity outside of machine made for hardcore Nintendo fans who only want to play their games.

They did exist. The massive flood of normies were elsewhere.


You KNOW all of the dislikes are the Nintendo fanboys Emp is talking about lol.


I realy REALY hope this video awakens the comunity to finaly stop the crap nintendo is doing to their comunity and the pokemon games ( you guys know how bad Sword and Shield was, even with the dlcs it was terrible).


Damn what a great video, really sums up a lot of my thoughts towards the company


Remember, pirating games will not stop the billion dollar Nintendo from receiving billions of dollars.

nintendo going bankrupt because i emulated the donkey kong arcade game

90% of emulated games are the kind that haven't ever been re-released, and the original copies are starting to head up into the triple digits price-wise.

I think it would with new games, but it would certainly not with old ones.


You would think "don't arrest your own customers" would be an easy concept for businesses to grasp


Honestly yeah. I didn't know about the etika charity thing, but that's pretty fucking spineless. The legal team doesn't act in isolation. The legal team tells the head of the company about legal issues, and likely offers methods to deal with it. The board of directors, CEO, and heads of staff, including Sakurai and Miyamoto, come to an agreement on what to do. Nintendo doesn't use the nuclear option on literally everything because of a spur of the moment. It is a calculated decision made by the executives and board of directors. The Nuclear option means it's less likely for similar issues to pop up. It worked in the past, but it's getting less feasible and the wider gaming audience is becoming more disillusioned with it. Nintendo fans need to realize that and actually push back against Nintendo's actions. They're doing the most extreme things for anything that poses even a slight legal inconvenience. While they are within their rights and sometimes even required to take action, the nuclear option every. single. time. is unacceptable...

However. We have been making an assumption. An assumption that Nintendo cares about the opinions of foreigners. For as spineless as Nintendo fans tend to be, Nintendo never responds to backlash that is actually major from the west. Sure, we got them to let us stream a tournament that one time. But they never localized Mother 3, which had the most extreme response from fans for years and is actively ongoing. The simple fact is, for most things, Nintendo does not give a damn about westerners. They care, like 90% of japanese companies, exclusively about their local marketshare in Japan. We can kick, whine, cry, scream, and boycott all we want. Nintendo will not give a single fuck if the Japanese market does not also do the same.


It's the usual "It's okay when Nintendo does it" bullshit, I really wish people would stop acting as if companies were their friends, you have all the right in the world to call out a company on their shit if they do something shady or anti-consumer, you won't make things better by constantly throwing money at them, things improve when people complain and criticize things in a fair manner. Nintoddlers are something else when it comes to letting companies walk all over them.


this video is so well put together, hot damn. all the graphics and clips are so good


I love nintendo. I steal most of their stuff but whenever they do put out something worthwhile, for a reasonable price, I am happy to pay for it.


My YouTube channel is centered around showing people how to modify Nintendo's games through emulation. I've been struck by takedown notices on YouTube because of the gameplay comparison between the original and the new modified in the tutorial videos. First, it was one video, and then it worked its way to two. These videos are some of my most popular videos here on the channel which everything that those videos have in it falls under fair use. I'm currently fighting both claims from Nintendo in an appeal process which luck has unblocked them from YouTube. Because there's still an appeal process on these videos, I cannot make a penny off them. . I am willing to fight this all the way to a counter notification because I will not be intimidated by a company that does not like emulation.


You are on the opposite of a downward spiral, friend. I always enjoy your content. You are the YouTube old guard. 👽


Why the hell shouldn't we hate the fans if they are the problem? Change rests in the consumer and if the consumer cannot change, the product doesn't. I'm at point of almost saying we need a scorch earth policy with toxicity in the world.


It's fucking crazy how much people will defend shit that exploits them. For like no reason? Like the leopards are literally eating your face and ur still gonna sit there and defend the leopards eat my face party.


Hey, interesting question. Could you explore the cultural reasons that Nintendo might not support competitive gaming? Nintendo has been around for a hundred years or something. They strike me as embedded in Japan’s traditional culture. So perhaps they make a point of being a game company for kids. Traditional societies generally don’t support making a career out of a game. Chess master Paul Morphy didn’t give himself the respect he deserved because he thought there was no honor in making a career out of chess. So I’m just guessing but could that dynamic be at play?

@Brian Dulli I think it's at least part of the reason, as most of their higher-ups are far older than the customers who partake in modern gaming culture.

From what I hear, a lot of businesses in Japan are stuck in the past in one way or another, whether it's using outdated technologies in the offices or having a corporate mindset that may have worked in the 70s but doesn't really apply today.

@Babar I get that but I think Nintendo itself seems to be more old fashioned than mainstream gaming culture.

Japan has plenty of competive gaming. They most certainly don't look down upon things like that they aren't ancient samurai people anymore.


Honestly Nintendo seems pretty up there with the slimiest of companies like EA or Activision


Nintendo makes good consoles, controllers, and some of the best games ever. But everything outside of that they make some of the most confusing and frustrating decisions.


As a Nintendo fan, Nintendo is starting to suck ass. Switch online is lacking, and most of the best switch games came out years ago at this point.


I'll admit that I only like Nintendo for the nostalgia.

That's why I still play my N64 and don't own a Switch.


While this video brings up some very interesting stuff regarding the company, I fear it will mostly attract the type of people it's thesis is about, only on the other side of the fence. It already has.


I've had too many friends admit they lied during #MeToo to not scoff at the "controversy from allegations"


I remember how Nintendo took down Alvin's Earthworm Patreon for the SMBZ reboot and was forced to start a Kofi page instead, it really pissed me off.


You can tell the type of fans that defend Nintendo, same group that gets scared and angry anytime a RPG gets announced.<br>Y'all remember the reaction to SMT 5 ?

You can tell the type of fans that defend Nintendo, same group that gets scared and angry anytime a RPG gets announced.
Y'all remember the reaction to SMT 5 ?


I love how Zun, creator of Touhou Project, is almost like an anti-nintendo. What he lets fans get away with is honestly astonishing...not only does he allow fan games, but some of the fan games are sold on popular stores like Steam for 15-20 dollars a piece!


Having the legal right does <b>NOT</b> inherently correlate with what is moral, justified, or logical. Especially when they are based on the lobbying of these very corporations rather than a directly democratic vote.

Having the legal right does *NOT* inherently correlate with what is moral, justified, or logical. Especially when they are based on the lobbying of these very corporations rather than a directly democratic vote.


One problem I constantly see from Nintendo fans is they will hate a game but still buy it just to show that they hate it. By buying it, that's telling Nintendo you want more of it (looking at you, Scott the Woz).


Just let them slip silently into the night. The fanbois can suffer the wrath of their overlord until they fall out of love. It would be good for the industry to get a real competitor anyway.


Gotta love that Nintendo fans do not shut up about a $60 game and how it is the return of the antichrist, and then proceed to dump all their life into it


THANK YOU!!!!!! That's what I was trying to say! I like them but the decisions they be making a very questionable at best! Oh well, we just have to see what the future holds!


Further note: videos made by Nintendo have been disliked bombed, like the parent restricting program advertised 3 years ago for switch, but of course they disabled comments and ratings.


Your channel is amazing. You are amazing.


the way this guy makes rants is so good. he can make anyone go to his side


For me being a Nintendo fan is torture. Cause I despise the company but I won’t just not buy the products due to the fact that I like them.


the fans have to act as Scott the Woz does with this topic. his opinion can be found and quoted from his dark age of nintendo series. "I love this company, but I'm more than willing to point out their shortcomings."


I’m fairly confident it was sakurai himself promoting the whole. You can’t make videos of Nintendo stuff. Like how the Wii U/3ds smash games didn’t have a big story mode because someone would just upload it, then people would watch it and refuse to buy the game for themselves. Because that’s how that works right? We’re so stupid that if we see a game on a video we’ll just watch it and never want to play it for ourselves. Especially in junction with gamefreak I have this sneaking suspicion that they true look down on newer generations like they’re stupid.
Take Pokémon blue. I’m fairly confident that as long as you tell them how a few of the shitty limits of the game boy worked. Zoomer would manage to out play in og genwunner. But no, the ceos of these places wanna act like the new generation has no attention span. Ultimately dancing around saying “you’re too stupid to level grind.” Those poor kids will never get a chance because there will probably always be a conga line of, the older the generation the better it is from everyone else. As long as the fans let them treat people like they don’t deserve to exist they will continue to think they are allowed to do that.

I enjoy most of the Main games. I do not enjoy fans letting them destroy other people and make simpler and simpler games. Acting like Nintendo is broke and not, what, the richest company in Japan now? Is disgusting naive. Acting like the game developers are having too hard of a time doing their fucking jobs? Ridiculous!

If you are going to refuse to be a good developer then let the fan games developers  that seem to for some goddamn reason develop better than you flourish. If it feels like these people are taking from you then step up. You can’t destroy everything and then be this disgustingly lazy.


From what I have heard from Trash taste podcast, it looks more like a japan thing than a Nintendo thing. Japanese companies are super conservative and will go out of their way to make life hell for content creators.


Eh, but blaming the devs for the executives decisions is still a stretch to me, sakurai has higher ups too and for all we know maybe he has put in good word. That’s kinda like blaming Dana Terrace for Disney’s homophobic behaviors, or the local Chick-fil-A manager for theirs. Still a good video though.

@Pedro Franck I think he cares about his fans, he wouldn’t have almost killed him self trying to make melee if he didn’t.

I dont think so, sakurai has more power then a lot of people in nintendo. Even if his position has hire ups he is the most endorsed person on the conpany, he woldnt be fired for standing his groud. And i know it hard to believe but i dont think he gives a fuck about the fans, he just is simpatetic couse its marketable


The way they are treating the Pokémon franchise is really starting to make me see the negatives of game freak, Nintendo, and how people keep making excuses for THE HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD. 100 billion dollars per year and you can use a fraction of that to invest in the video games as the movies, tv show, or cards.


To this day the GameCube era are the only games I continuously play... all emulated of course 😂 after the Wii/Wii U and how everything became forced motion controls, I just never saw Nintendo the same

@Andy Blanton I already own the games brah


You think a lot of this might have something to do with them being afraid of ending up like Sega? Like they’re too scared to take risks less they’ll make a fuck up so bad that they won’t be able to afford making consoles anymore?

uhhh if the Wii U era proved anything it's that they don't care about that considering they haven't changed their ways before, during, or after that


I don't have new Nintendo consoles or games, and just now saw the price for Amiibo.
15-16$?!?
Skylanders were 4$ and were better than Amiibo are now!

4$ is about as much as it costs to make the Amiibos each piece in the Chinese factory they are assembled from. Nintendo just gives the final approval so they can say 'We made the product!'.


im still so upset about what they did to multiple pokemon fangames. seriously messed up. they seem to hate the fans of their games deeply

No. They just don't want the fans making games of they're IPs without permission.


guys, lets shoutout some mad respect for valve🙌


Mario kart tour is just tool they use to get kids hooked on gambling.

It is the most sadistic mobile game I have ever seen.


The gaming industry was never dying outside of the US tho. All Nintendo did was save the US console market. Others were enjoying all the different PCs of the time... even though it was a tall order for the most part, lol. But not completely without its benefits.

@Isaiah Simmons Well, it's not only him. Everyone (in the US) seems to think that the "crash" was that apocalyptic thing that could've actually killed the whole industry, which is simply ludicrous. Worst case scenario, it would've re-shuffled the deck somewhat, it wouldn't burn everything to ashes. Nintendo capitalized on it and it was a good business decision, but that's it. It didn't save shit, nor could it if it really went down the way some think it did.


Really love your choice of music these last few videos.


First Lemon vid I tried, and I now I understand why he is fairly liked. Nothing boils my blood more than the "Saint Sakurai" schtick, and finally a louder and more cohesive voice calls it out. 10/10 video, Sephiroth was suffering to weather.


I haven't been all that impressed with Nintendo since 64....


If I bought your game in the past, I have the right to play it on an emulator in the future. I shouldn't have to keep holding onto my old hardware and compromising for it just to play an old game that I enjoy.


I feel this but towards videogames in general


It's amazing how one of the biggest offenders in the shitshow of doing the bare minimum that was Pokemon Sword and Shield was never brought up and yet the video is spot on about Nintendo's absolute lack of care about their customers. They'll do whatever they want because the people allow them to get away with it even if it isn't healthy or even good for business.

@TheAnomaly but it's not developed by them. Meanwhile shit like the lackluster super rush (which is ultra smash 2 pretty much), u deluxe and all stars are directly made by them.

At this point they actually are just like disney, making lackluster remakes that people still eat up anyway.

@Thatitalianlameguy Is it not always a flagship game exclusively on Nintendo products? I know full well a lot of the issues Pokemon has but the fact remains it's part of the Nintendo umbrella.

Well pokèmon wasn't made by nintendo, it's the pokèmon company forcing game freak to shit out a game every year with a full roster despite every other monster franchise not doing that to handle said mountain of work, while also keeping to themselves most of the money of "highest grossing franchise in the world" (the games do extremely little of that share, the merch is in the company's hands and gets all of the cash). Game freak is the least of the problems with pokèmon, no matter the time if they're forced to rush out something yearly at a low budget pokèmon will become the new ea sports.


The funniest part is people were angry about byleth being a wasted spot but that was the same video that they revealed 6 more fighters would be joining the roster, way more than anyone could've realistically hoped for.


It's weird. Nintendo is like video game Disney with the degree to which some people treat it as the avatar of their idealized childhood. They can do literally anything and very few people will stop buying their shit. Reminds me of the CoD Boycott Steam Group, so maybe it's just gamers in general.<br>A lot of people I know will superficially complain about Nintendo and then they go buy the Pokemon DLC pass and pre-order an OLED Switch and buy the new Smash character and play it once. I feel like an involuntary therapist for a battered wife.

It's weird. Nintendo is like video game Disney with the degree to which some people treat it as the avatar of their idealized childhood. They can do literally anything and very few people will stop buying their shit. Reminds me of the CoD Boycott Steam Group, so maybe it's just gamers in general.
A lot of people I know will superficially complain about Nintendo and then they go buy the Pokemon DLC pass and pre-order an OLED Switch and buy the new Smash character and play it once. I feel like an involuntary therapist for a battered wife.


So, there is a point to be made. Melee's competitive atmosphere and environment features a TON of elitism and gatekeeping. A lot of players, at least, back in the brawl days, were really like "If you're not playing at a competitive level, you shouldn't be playing the game at all." For a multiplayer party game, that is simply not acceptable. That culture hurts sales, and Nintendo simply did not, at the time, have any means of moderating that culture. They literally only had one other option, make the game intrinsically anti-competitive. With WiiU and Ultimate they've started warming back up to the competitive scene, but Melee, to this day, still has its elitists and gatekeepers that honestly turn me well away from a game I once loved. Why play it if I'm just going to be ostracized for not playing correctly or only ever play the cpu?


What do you except, Nintendo fans are children so once you give them something they like, they'll worship you and ask more.


Boy this video couldn’t have had better timing now with the Nintendo Switch OLED being announced


i think its fair to also point out how people say things werent like this when Iwata was around, but they still were???????????


the Nintendo Switch OLED announcement trailer brought me back here


Konami kept on copyright striking all of the online Yu-Gi-Oh card engines and only created a game when the community as a whole pointed out the fact that they hadn't done anything resembling it since 2006. And with the current iteration we don't even know if new cards will be updated into the game.  Some of the services accepted donations for server maintenance these are completely fan-funded and they constantly shut them down they have no direct substitute it doesn't harm their bottom line probably the only reason why people are still buying their products as much as they do. Just a little tidbit. I've heard one reason why that doesn't stink of complete BS, anti gambling laws like how people have to play with pachinko balls and they themselves are a form of currency to get  around Japanese anti-gambling laws.  But things like smash are completely skill-based at least from the way I see it they don't have that in their defense it's probably why they made the game far more casual so that it would be more luck based.


don't know if its anything you would be interested in but I'd like to see you make a video about Nvidia and the GPU crisis


2:05 20 years? Interesting, that also seems to coincide with the release of Super Smash Bros. Melee.
2:11 lo and behold


My favorite thing about this video is how absolutely polemic it is. lol


It sucks that Nintendo is such a stingy company, you’d think given the more fun casual nature of their games that they wouldn’t be THIS brutal to their fan base. It’s a shame, like many others Nintendo was basically a staple of my childhood, but as I’ve aged and the veil has lifted I really have come to resent the company as an adult seeing them as just the soulless corporation they are. Their actions are just outright petty and unnecessary.


this video aged really fucking fast<br>darn oled model

this video aged really fucking fast
darn oled model

@Isauldron Then why reply? You didn't say anything new lol

@Isauldron No company will say they are working on a hardware upgrade outright like that. It is supposed to be kept a secret before an official announcement.

@Star Nintendo said they weren't working on a switch pro<br>It's the false leaks that created the dissonance

@Star Nintendo said they weren't working on a switch pro
It's the false leaks that created the dissonance

I mean, is like a Xbox X s or the PS4 slim, is the same console with little upgraes. It's s not bad, just... meh

@Star thanks! Nintendo has probably shot  themselves in the leg now after the announcement of the steam deck. Which is pretty much the switch if nintendo would care about making a competetive console instead of just riding the high of gimmicks and mario games. The concept of having a full balls to the wall console in your pocket on the go has great potential which nintendo didin't seem to realize

@trains and stuff Nintendookie released some sort of mediocre remaster of the Switch

As a non nintendo pc peasant, please elaborate?


Honestly if you replace nintendo with Disney, it wouldn't be any different.


dont worry i custom load all my emulated fan projects into steam courtesy of lord gabe and disciple carmack


Switch remakes of Coliseum and XD gale of darkness are needed and I'm tired of pretending they're not


Waiting for WWIII to start when Nintendo sends the Japanese military to arrest American Switch modders.

I guess we know where the Nintendium went.


If you haven't seen these articles before, you're welcome. They're direct quotes from Nintendo executives saying that melee competitive tournaments won't appeal to their target demographic. Make of this what you will. Make sure to submit other statements, meetings, and scandals from articles as you find them.

Reggie
http://nintendotoday.com/evo-2014-reggie-speech/
https://kotaku.com/nintendo-responds-to-smash-bros-pros-callout-wants-to-1796177733
https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-on-nintendo-world-championships-2017-and-competitive-play/

Sakurai
https://www.nintendo-insider.com/sakurai-on-super-smash-bros-melee-tournaments-and-shortcomings/


A comment just made me realize that Nintendo is the Disney of gaming companies. Yikes


18:57 does Waluigi have his own toxic fanbase?


The issue with that whole Sakurai should have spoken out about melee, but he really can't. the work culture in Japan just isn't as lenient with that type if stuff. He can still be fired or punished for speaking out himself, he probably does care but just cant say anything about it. This is really a cultural difference, I hate that it is but facts are facts. You really can't compare a western gaming company/developer to a Japanese company/developer.


Nintendo is a boomer company; Japan is boomer country. I know this because I've visited for business and have a basic understanding of their work culture. Basically, take boomer memes/saying from America, but then actually enforce those ideals (keep your head down, work hard, don't complain, etc.). You get CEO's/workforce allergic to change, like it's still the 80/90's in terms of caring about employee wellbeing. It's no wonder that they are resistant to gaming industry trends. They want to keep their formula going, because they know it works. Their implementation of online play in AC:NH is a canary in the coal mine.


Great video!  Just a thought, you were talking about how the pro melee circuit is a lot smaller and a lot more niche and this is why it was anti-consumer for them to nerf the competitive aspect of Smash.  Later you mention that it was hypocritical for the fanbase to ratio the Byleth video but not the ones before it because of the free melee stuff.  I would imagine that the majority of self-ascribed Nintendo fans didn't know anything about shitty things Nintendo was doing with competitive gaming, and didn't see it as a big deal anyway, while the majority of the same self-ascribed Nintendo fans are heavily invested in the smash DLC.  I don't have any data to back this up tho.

Lots of fantastic points in the video!


"Project M Died for this" <br>                 -That Scary Anime Game, you know the one.

"Project M Died for this"
                 -That Scary Anime Game, you know the one.


Emulation Nintendo is really taking the wrong approach. They really need to offer better means of playing their classic games. The fact that Donkey Kong has a new game or they ported the arcade cabinet does not make up for the fact that I can't play DK64 if I don't have the cartridge anymore. They're doing this for the same reason they take down fan projects, in some jurisdictions including the US, you are required by law to protect an IP, or it falls into the public domain. Their IPs are worth several billion dollars. That's how the law works. Nintendo fan creations do have a history of development and full releases but, the problem is, they can only do so under the radar. The second they get enough traction that they're showing up on the front page of youtube, that kills it. They tend to be pretty blind to fanworks otherwise, but are ruthless once they do see the fanwork, or can't deny they haven't seen it. This is the same reason Bethesda had to sue Mojang over their card game, Scrolls. They had to throw a legal fuss or they lose the copyright to Elder Scrolls even though both of them knew it was stupid, and were quick to reconcile. The law regarding Intelligent Property is stupid. Nintendo could be more lenient, I will concede though.


I wonder how videogamedunkey would take this?


thank you for including green Chad Warden at the end


I feel like its irrelevant to talk about the nintendo fanbase in any meaningful way, seeing as the majority are children. They dont know what the fuck is going on lol


Aaaaand they're starting to take away dislikes for youtube overall, lovely


Can I just enjoy some fantastic Nintendo games guilt-free please


I left the church a long time ago and I have not looked back. It felt so reliving when I finally stepped into the realm of pc gaming were you have a united platform whith limitless options of quality and content.


Good video but the segment complaining about people being mean to you on twitter was too long, you could make the point in 1-2 mins but you took 10 lol

I would disagree since it shows and strengthens the points


If anything, Nintendo should take the fan games as a pointer towards what FANS ACTUALLY WANT!
I don't want the 300th repackaged Pokémon game, I want something original, or something that was unnecessarily previously unavailable, like Mother 3.
I want well made remakes, reboots or remasters, not a lackluster marketing ploy like All Stars.
I haven't bought ANYTHING directly from Nintendo in years (or any other game company except Steam for that matter), because I fucking HATE the shit they're doing.
I will never understand WTF they're doing.
They're beyond my understanding.

I fucking hate corporate capitalism with a passion, but I'll never bee rid of it in this damn era. I'll just have to live through it in misery... Oh well!

If anything, Nintendo should take the fan games as a pointer towards what FANS ACTUALLY WANT!
I don't want the 300th repackaged Pokémon game, I want something original, or something that was unnecessarily previously unavailable, like Mother 3.
I want well made remakes, reboots or remasters, not a lackluster marketing ploy like All Stars.
I haven't bought *ANYTHING* directly from Nintendo in years (or any other game company except Steam for that matter), because I fucking HATE the shit they're doing.
I will never understand WTF they're doing.
They're beyond my understanding.

I fucking hate corporate capitalism with a passion, but I'll never bee rid of it in this damn era. I'll just have to live through it in misery... *Oh well!*


I love the battle revolution music in the background


13:21 Polybius as a low-quality cash-grab XD


I LOVE Nintendo games, but the company ... The choices they make... Luckily cause of the broken American family I'm completely used to be fucked by the people I love.


That whole animal crossing thing is way worse than just if you want a second Island, have you ever had a five and six year old share Nintendo switch. I don't even live with my little siblings but the two hours I'm there I just wish they'd shut up to the point where I'm tempted to buy them a second switch. Because Nintendo makes you pick which account is primary on the save states and I'm not paying extra money so a kid can have a kid account on a kid's product I don't care that it's 50 cents. That's even more of a reason for them not to charge.


why the fuck does final fantasy 10 cost twice as much on the switch than on other platforms? Does anyone know actually why that is the case?


13:20 ah Polybius such a shitty poorly made knock off arcade game it doesn't even have the effort put in to exist in the first place, shame

in all seriousness i agree, the same can be said about apple who's fan base has the same problem (mainly because they spend way too much money on their products more than anything) that they are too blind to see the blatant scandals or exploits of the company, people will still camp out side apple stores over night even if the product their buying was made in a cheap labour factory, is actually a lesser improved version from the prior version sold at 3 times the price and is missing many liberties that users of other brands have, just like how Nintendo users will stay up late to see the smash reveal for a dlc character even if all the shenanigans you mentioned has occurred, but what do i know im just a poor boy that dont have an iphone and games on pc.


I still have a copy of ET for the Atari 2600 xD


"And many people remain adamantly unsympathetic over the plight of competitive Smash."

That's me! I'm J Jonah Jameson here.


almost 1000 downvotes? ppl have no respect smhhh

Like he said , they never left Neverland


3:58
I didn't know Athlean X played pro tetris lol
(Athlean X is a fitness youtuber who looks EXTREMELY similar to the guy on the left and his first name is also Jeff)

3:58
I didn't know Athlean X played pro tetris lol
(Athlean X is a fitness youtuber who looks *EXTREMELY* similar to the guy on the left and his first name is also Jeff)


13:18 Congorilla is still a great shitpost


Welcome back to this video after switch oled


Had to come back after Nintendo just ripped off thousands of people with a Switch with a slightly bigger screen and the same shitty joycons.

Sony or Microsoft would never be able to get away with shit like this.


12:40 uranium is luckily still alive and well


EmpLemon could you quit your job and become full-time YouTube


It’s because of Nintendo and their batshit crazy militia of millions of fans that there needs to be a law made to legalize the piracy of software not readily available on a digital storefront with the option to use the roms with no downsides on open source emulators. Because fuck them only putting EBB on Wii U, and never bringing the GBA games they promised us to the 3ds.<br>Also fuck their PR, seriously I love melee and ultimate but I don’t like being treated like filth for wanting to play them at a competitive level.

It’s because of Nintendo and their batshit crazy militia of millions of fans that there needs to be a law made to legalize the piracy of software not readily available on a digital storefront with the option to use the roms with no downsides on open source emulators. Because fuck them only putting EBB on Wii U, and never bringing the GBA games they promised us to the 3ds.
Also fuck their PR, seriously I love melee and ultimate but I don’t like being treated like filth for wanting to play them at a competitive level.


Exactly. It is a big waste of money that could go towards literally anything else.


The end segment about Sakurai was heavy af. It's so true


28:44 - Where do I find this scene with Nintendo wearing a thong?

@F0x Animation test. When the time is right...


This is good and all but why is mario golf super rush trash?


15:13
Ex Stadia creative director of montreal.


They don’t even make good games anymore lol

Breath of the Wild 2 is looking pretty hot


First time I haven't gotten someone's video in my subscription box.


Emp is by nature a controversial person, it was only a matter of time before he got back into the heat.


Hey Emp what happened to your discord server on June 24th, 2020?


I don't care cuz I don't pay for any of this


Absolutely fantastic video Emp. Covered so many aspects. Nintendo has been and will remain to be one of my favorite companies and has some great games and ips but Nintendo upsets me with a majority of its business practices and it bums me out because of how upset they make their fans who made such great things and just end up having their hard work taken away. Nintendo is great, but really need to start realizing what they are doing wrong.


Looks at my laptop filled with 100's of ROMs
Might replay Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons or Pokemon: Soul Silver.

*Looks at my laptop filled with 100's of ROMs*
Might replay Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons or Pokemon: Soul Silver.

@The best worst I believe that, the joke was the roms were so good all the viruses got yeeted

@Mr.Preston 16 I’ve been downloading roms for over half a decade now and I don’t think I’ve once encountered a virus

"Nooo! You need to pay scalpers hundreds of extra dollars!! Noooo ur breaking the lawwww!" -Nintendo Nuts

No you should definitely buy a real copy of soul silver for $100 that nintendo will never get instead because emulation bad /s

Mine's pumped with roms too, i'm gonna replay some warioware :D

theres also a Seasons and Ages randomizer if u ever want an alternative way to play the games

Hopefully you'll pick up Infinite Hyrule and Pokemon Crystal Clear for good measure~


18:43 what is the music in the background ?


1:30 minutes into this video and I already learned something new about the history  of the gaming industry. Nice work.


Me, an avid fan of Jim Sterling and Matt McMuscles' coverage of the video game industry: <b>I've seen worse</b>

Me, an avid fan of Jim Sterling and Matt McMuscles' coverage of the video game industry: *I've seen worse*


Day 1 of asking emp  to make a nascar video about bill elliott


"If there is hope, it lies in the proles." -George Orwell's 1984

@Felipe Jaquez not polish people...read the book

George Orwell was also a soldier in the Spanish Civil War. He fought on the fairly disorganized Left-wing side against the Fascist faction. He also idolized the largest Anarchist antion there, Catalonia, as "reafirming (his) faith in Socialism"


Say what you want about Sonic fans, but we actually have the GUTS to criticize the company, and aren’t bootlickers or drones!

We criticize because we care.

(most of us anyway)

EDIT:

I watched the video again and I have one criticism on Emp’s take.

In the video, he uses what happens in the Smash community as evidence to his point that Nintendo fans are drones.

There’s one thing that he doesn’t realize:

Smash fans are Nintendo fans, but not all Nintendo fans are Smash fans.

The overall Nintendo fandom doesn’t have to care about the events in the Smash community.

The other Nintendo communities (Kirby, Mario, etc) shouldn’t be punished or labeled as “drones” or “bootlickers” because of how the Smash community acts.

EmpLemon should research the happenings in the other Nintendo community before coming to a conclusion on the entire Nintendo fandom.

@marcossegon your forgeting about splatoon and animal crossing fans. Splatoon, while still in its infancy, they have a pretty good time going on with the dev team with little pressure. anamal crossing fans "well new leaf and bellow" are unnhapy because of the cardboard aniamals, but the other thing is the lack of features like the cafe.

@marcossegon

I agree with your points on Mario, Zelda, Kirby, and Fire emblem.

Not really METRIOD cause they were waiting for METRIOD Dread for years so 😐.

I just feel that EmpLemon should have used evidence from across every single Nintendo fandom before saying “ALL NINTENDO FANS ARE BOOTLICKERS AND DRONES AND IGNORE NINTENDO’S SCUMMINESS BECAUSE OF THAT!”

You got a point about him only using Smash as arguments but his point is still valid after doing research.

Mario fans?
A limited release 60$ port of 3 poorly adapted ROMs when other franchises are releasing unlimited release trilogy remakes too for 2/3rds of the price (Crash Bandicoot, Spyro).
This poorly made port has sold like crazy.

Zelda fans?

An "HD" port of a Wii game for 60$. This one is even more criminal than the previous one because at least the other one was 3 games. This one is a single game, and the upgrades are almost non-existent. Hell, there are fanmade projects that have done the same thing better than Nintendo itself, there is this 4k texture pack someone made for the game, and you can get that texture pack for free.
"But this port comes with an added fast travel feature that wasn't in the original" yeah, locked behind a 25$ amiibo, one that costs 66% more than a normal amiibo because it is two figures or something... Well, what about the Ice Climbers amiibos? are those 25$? No, they are 15%, just like the rest of amiibos. Also this kind of feature was already added in other remakes such as the HD Wind Waker remake.

Kirby fans?
Yeah these guys are chill I guess but that's because they get a game every 5 years and the last one was in 2018. Also I guess the Kirby franchise has still not messed up big time like the rest. We don't have enough info on them.

Pokémon fans?
Alright I heard something about Pokémon now being a 3rd party, but that does not matter. Their fanbase is pretty much entirely related to Nintendo, their practices are similar, their games are exclusive to Nintendo's consoles (mobile games like Shuffle don't count, Nintendo also released some), they are essentially part of Nintendo even as a 3rd party because they are still super duper heavily linked to them in other ways.

Do I really need to dig here? These guys got lied to their face, they got promised good graphics at the cost of half the pokédex and the game is one of the worst running, worst looking AAA games in the console. It is insulting that the switch's power is sometimes used to justify a game like Sw&Sh belonging on the same console as Breath of the Wild, which looks gorgeous.
Everyone got pissed and claimed they weren't buying the game. So how did that go?
Sword and Shield are one of the best selling games of the console.

Metroid fans?
Don't let the funny 2D Metroid Dread game distract you from the fact that Metroid Prime 4 is still in development hell. These guys should complain more about the radio silence Nintendo has going on but they are one of the least problematic groups I guess.

Fire Emblem Fans? (this one is related to Smash so I guess add this one to the Smash pile too)
Look I understand that you all like FE, but don't defend how your franchise is represented in smash. Not only is it overrepresented (it has more characters than Zelda, and FE has been on the verge of death and never reached the levels of Pokémon or Mario in sales), it is misrepresented. Bro they are all swordfighters and FE has more than just that, some are a bit more mixed like Byleth, Corrin or Robin (AKA the best representers of the franchise because they aren't Generic Swordsman #21) but then there is Marth, female Marth, red Marth but fast (because Roy is pretty fast in smash), and blue red Marth but fast. I would put Ike here too but his moveset actually differs. Just give him an axe and his swordfighter issue is fixed.
Yet I haven't seen anyone complain about how poorly represented FE is in Smash.
Other than that, I guess they are chill.

F-Zero, MOTHER, Star fox, and other franchises fans?
Neglected to death even if successful like Pikmin, I guess.

Also yes I wrote a bible just to answer to this. It do be like that. But this is all to prove that this isn't just smash, it is Nintendo's fanbase as a whole.

Exactly, thats why I still think even though SEGA may not be as popular as Nintendo is. SEGA is still a better company just in general business practice compared to Nintendo. Since they don't actual shut down fangames, projects, livestreams, events, and even actively support/fund them too. Personally I may always love Nintendo no matter what, just because of nostolgia and how good there games are. I can't support the fact of how brainless the company is making its fanbase either by taking advantage of us finically, or just shutting down events, projects, and etc. Thats why I won't always be a 100% Nintendo Supporter. Long Story short Nintendo is just like any other company, and deserves to be treated the same, not like some whole ass religion


You were going strong until the last minute. What are you even trying to say? Don't buy a console that has generation defining exclusive titles? This is your solution to heavy-handed copyright enforcement?

Apropos, Nintendo was right to sneer at the "competitive" Smash scene. Sakurai was visibly uncomfortable in the presence of those grease lords, with reasons to spare. I wasn't surprised in the least when half of them were outed as predators, although their elitist attitude still bothers me more.


So I guess the takeaway of this video is... Sega does what Nintendon't.


Emp, This is unrelated, but you're one of the only YouTubers that I am always excited to see their content


Could you do a video on the birth and death of GTA V


To this day I still baffled that Nintendo still stay afloat despite shooting it own foot many times.

It's pretty easy to figure out. They're too rich to care. During the Wii u days they could lose 750k a year as a company and they'd only hit the red in the 2070's. REMINDER; THIS WAS DURING THE WII U DAYS. The switch was so successful these stats are out of date primarily because it'd most likely be next century that they'd hit the red now. It's the same reason Disney can make 6 terrible movies back to back, during a pandemic that closed their amusement parks and still be one of the most powerful and rich conglomerates in the world; they just have so much capital they're the new humans of the capitalism food chain, so far above everything else they're not even in the chain anymore, they can just sit back and destroy anything they feel like it with zero true repercussions.


"Well... At least Nintendo still makes good games... right?..."<br>-A Despairing Paper Mario Fan

"Well... At least Nintendo still makes good games... right?..."
-A Despairing Paper Mario Fan

@Caleb Productions no Origami King is straight trash. they just throw stupid gimmicks into every new Paper Mario game and call it a day. while taking out all the good elements of the first 2 games.

@FoolishFool actually they have metroid, fire emblem and xenoblade for the hardcores.

I play Paper Mario TOK and it was fine, not the best Paper Mario game I’ve played but also not really bad, unfortunately TTYD fans are like melee fanboys, getting pissed off because they do something new or they change things that’s not like the original.

@manifestation of the laughing till crying emoji Nope, they're still releasing shitty paper mario games.

Paper Mario, Pokemon, Mario & Luigi, Rhythm Heaven, Pikmin. Nintendo doesn’t respect the fans of a lot of their best ips and only listens to praise of the casual nintendo fans that have taken over the community after the switch launched. normies ruin everything.

they... sometimes... make good games now but i think a lot of the games now are pretty bland by comparisson. back then nintendo crammed as much content as possible.

Two entire regions to traverse? got it, An entire Mission Mode with several activities and challenges + the ability to customize your very own emblem? got it, an ambicious storymode with full cutscenes and multiple platforming stages? got it. just to state a few.

They make pretty good games, just not all the games we'd like (rip mario & luigi rpg series)

Personally, the perception that they continually pump out the best games is probably also bloated by the same fandom. Most Nintendo games are technically solid but mediocre creatively.


No gaming company hates their customers as much as Nintendo.

@Arthur maybe your right but by their actions Nintendo seems to hate their fans while EA seems to just want to rob them blind

@GodZpeed X7II at least EA fans know how to criticise

@Jess Agpaoa EA is worst, but Nintendo has more fans

@Ultr4mix_64 yes, as long as you forget all their failures, they've been "crushing" the competition lmao.

@Ultr4mix_64 lmao what are you even on? Nintendo only reigned when they went for a completely different market like with the Wii or DS or when they had no competition like in the 80s
The moment Microsoft and Sony came in, Nintendo got crushed twice in just 7 years and then a third time during the Wii U era
Nintendo only thrives because it either has no competition or it targets different markets, otherwise they would have died like SEGA more than two decades ago

Nintendo loves their fans,  if they didn't, they wouldve been dead by now since they've been crushing the competition since the 80s

@GodZpeed X7II wow soo convincing<br>Show me a single time Nintendo changed its ways

@GodZpeed X7II wow soo convincing
Show me a single time Nintendo changed its ways

@GodZpeed X7II i know ea is the worst but EA doesn't seem to hate their fan they are just super greedy while nintendo is sooo oppressive to their most dedicated fans

@marcossegon Not true. Nintendo fans do and they forget about it because Nintendo actually learns from mistakes

@Jess Agpaoa EA is just greedy but people have the balls to get on their necks from time to time at the very least. Nintendo fans don't and when they do they forget about it in a week.

I think you're right some say EA is worst but i think EA are just greedy


Remember, kids. It's always ethical to pirate Nintendo games!


To be fair, people disliked byleths reveal trailer because they disliked the character, and they didn't dislike sephiroths reveal trailer because they liked the character, the other issues surrounding nintendo did not affect the trailers dislikes.

Yeah, this video is mostly facts but that was a really dumb thing to complain about

Ehh... I think Byleths situation goes a bit deeper than that. Let's just say that Byleths reveal would probably be alot less disliked if Corrin didn't get in.


My favorite game of all time, Terraria, began its life as a mod for one of the Mario games. Nintendo posed a C&D to Relogic, forcing them to remake said mod as a completely independent game. I do not for the life of me understand why Nintendo is so anti-modding when mods are demonstrably proven to assist the longevity of a game's lifespan.

bro Super Mario Bros X was the shit back then

At least terraria became what it is today because of it. Which I guess is a neat positive.


I still believe youtube dislikes is barking up the wrong tree. for any situation for any game company. have a problem with the legal team? sure throw hate at the marketing and dev teams???
its not about the "oh poor sakurai" but rather.. sakurai couldnt give two shits about youtube dislikes without context.
I think it'd be better to find and spread actual legal team emails, or companies themselves. hell you can always email gabe newell directly and he tends to reply when he can.


Not to defend Nintendo but to quote Nate the Lawyer "The law is not moral." The legality or illegality of something does not in and of itself make that thing moral or immoral.

@Roman Bukins I'm guessing you came to the comments after watching the whole video. Early on there's a point about Nintendo's actions and their legality being used by their fans as a defense for their actions.

That actually sounds like the opposite of defending Nintendo to me.


Am I the only one who noticed all the Instances of FUNKe in this video? Does anyone know why?


Nintendo fans scare me. I once met a guy who refused to play any video game unless it appeared in smash.

@Megasame yes, in fact I believe he once said something along the lines of "man I've wanted to play persona for ages but now I finally can because joker is in smash"


25:12 that video clip was so perfect. You're such a damn incredible video editor.

YouTube Poopers, retired or active, are some of the best editors out there. His background in YouTube Poop translates remarkably well into these videos, needless to say.


This was so personal to me, leaving the community since the mental health charity was shut down. Thank you for your passionate detailing and dedication, as always. You’ll always be a top inspiration for...well, whichever you want me to credit you for.

Sorry if I sounded obsessive there, my claims aren’t hyperbole.

@Carlinal I think the person running it was taking some of the funds or something like that. I’m not 100% sure though.

The JoyConBoyz charity was a scam? I dunno, could you link some proof to me?

You mean that Etika charity that ended up being a scam? Or the EVO tournament that actually did happen and was successful.


And now they are hiding likes / dislikes.


I remember watching a video about the shitty practices of Nintendo back in the late 80s early 90s in the UnitedStates to have most of the market share.

So i could say that they never changed, they just picked up a new punching bag.


salty luigi is salty? never suspected such a thing, off with his head guards!


24:11 I guess you could say.... "Sakurailage"


Even as a Nintendo fan, I can tell you straight up that this was an amazing video. At the end of the day, those psychotic Nintendrones have to remember that Nintendo, for as much as I love them, at the end of the day is a business. Always have been and always will be


i love nintendo to bits but the fact that they take "within legal rights" to its limits is the shittest thing i've ever seen any company do

they're getting into UMG levels of shit


The ratio of Nintendo's actual "universal good"/success to their fan support/profit is so fucking offset thanks to the ridiculous amount of bootlicking 12 year olds, and adults who want to go back to when they were 12.

It's not about you not being about to have fun with the games and show support. It's about knowing when to have actual discussion about the numerous times they've done slimy misdeeds like these, but ya'll wanna act on some Dream-type shit.

I want to like Nintendo again without feeling so hyper critical about ever decision they make. I want to be a confident consumer of their product because of my past enjoyment of their brand when I was young. However, as an adult nearing his mid-twenties, I feel like such a cranky fuck whenever Nintendo is talked about. It sucks


Truth: The only reason Nintendo games get such good reviews is because anyone that gives a game anything below a 9 gets mobbed. Jim Sterling got death threats for not giving BotW a 10.


A dude on some discord server once told me nintendo actually needed the pocket change revenue from nintendo online.<br>Like the actual money they get from game sales wasn’t already fucking fair enough on their end.

A dude on some discord server once told me nintendo actually needed the pocket change revenue from nintendo online.
Like the actual money they get from game sales wasn’t already fucking fair enough on their end.


It's the album cover from the best album ever made (in my humble opinion): Wish You Were Here


Oh, I haven’t seen such bravery before. Good luck EmpLemon, u gonna need it

Hasnt Jim Sterling beeen saying this for years now though?


the saddest thing is, its never gonna happen, they just have too much power.

I wouldn't say that. The absence of hope gives all tyranny power.

...A bit dramatic for a video game company, but uh, point is, I wouldn't say so. It can happen, it's just gonna be a long road to change.


Melee was one of my first GameCube games.  I loved it!

I also love those fan-made Pokémon games.

Don't let those trolls or haters
get to you man. 💪🏻

Loved the ending, LMAO 😆🤣
That was EPIC!
Great video Emp! 👍🏻


Personally I don't condone or condemn piracy and emulation. I do think Nintendo should definitely step up their emulation and availability of older games, especially when compared to Xbox or even Playstation consoles. As of fan games, I'm undecided on a stance. And as for their legal teams and legal actions, I don't support that.

Anyways change is partially up to us, and partially up to Nintendo.


I clapped at my screen after that final rant, can’t fucking wait till you get 1m subs. YOU DESERVE IT!!!


oop didnt notice this video on my notification :O


This is such an incredible video, my god. Fantastic stuff man


I agree with all of this, but you really start to sound condescending when you say that casual customers who don't care about competitive Smash (an extremely minuscule fraction of the customer base), are the problem because we don't go on Twitter to bitch or go out of our way to dislike a bunch of their videos.

Yeah I agree. While I do think the criticism against Nintendo is, overall, correct, I also feel that the people who are complaining aren't less emotionally driven and annoying than the ones who defend these business choices


Who is the video of the guy dancing at 26:24 of? It looks like the purest cringe, does anyone know?


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV,  Jesus Christ is the only way..........


Ok this one actually struck a chord with me. I didn't like all the unethical business practices Nintendo was doing, I especially remember being upset about the Etikons, but just like in the video I forgot all about that with the Sephiroth reveal. I'm not out there defending Nintendo, but I guess I'd be guilty by inaction because I condemned the behaviors of the company yet still purchase their products. Maybe it's time I become more critical of Nintendo


My issue with Nintendo is there complete inability to get with the times. Japan's hyper traditionalist culture hobbles innovation like improving the hardware, offering a functioning online service, or putting games that are 5 years+ old on a damn sale. They've been doing the same stuff for decades and refuse to change. <br>On top of that their IPs follow the same formula, look how long it took for Zelda to change or Metroid to go from side scroller to 1st person shooter. And don't even get me started with their worst offender.....POKEMON

My issue with Nintendo is there complete inability to get with the times. Japan's hyper traditionalist culture hobbles innovation like improving the hardware, offering a functioning online service, or putting games that are 5 years+ old on a damn sale. They've been doing the same stuff for decades and refuse to change.
On top of that their IPs follow the same formula, look how long it took for Zelda to change or Metroid to go from side scroller to 1st person shooter. And don't even get me started with their worst offender.....POKEMON