since lots of people are commenting this, yes the sun is a star in our world but in the magical land of Equestria, things are mythological, and i doubt stars are vastly huge and far like ours are.
Go back and read my comment on your latest alicorn theory.After hearing yours I peiced some things together.I from what I noticed in the video.Also wouldnt cadence need magic to get her cutie Mark so she would have to start out as a unicorn 😉
Hey Notion! I would love to hear your thoughts and maybe a head cannon on whether Luster Dawn may be the daughter of Starlight and Sunburst. I have a theory myself that would take so long to explain but if you'd like to hear it I would be glad to share! This is such an interesting question and since I'm a big fan of the Starburst ship, tho it's second to Cheesepie which is best ship change my mind, I'd love to see a video about this! Please think about it, and let me know if you would like to hear my headcannon cause really would like to share it with you😊 thx!
The Brony Notion Maybe it is another sister in the stars I mean they never mentioned her but they never said she didn’t exist either there’s a good chance there is another sister one they haven’t mentioned yet
Maybe the spirit of harmony took form of Celestia and set Luna free? We have seen the spirit do that in season 8 with twilight's form... This also might prove Celestia seeing a vision of setting Luna free. Lauren Faust may have hinted towards someone that is like Celestia, but isn't based of the "controls the stars" statement.
If the tree of harmony played a part on simbolizing the elements to the young 6 then mabye, it helped on giving the main 6 thier cutie marks/destinys and sending them on thier way to the story we know today. Because after all the tree of harmony has been around for longer than a millenia 🤔
@Pika _Gurl her cutie mark symbolises the crystal heart and she gets her magic power from the crystal heart as she lives in the crystal empire so it makes sense that she get her magic back after she sees the source of power her cutie mark resides from
Watch the last problem again. As in the flashback twilight is reading a newspaper it will say Foal Free Press but if you look carefully it will actually be symbols forming the words. Just pause the episode there and you will see what I mean.
Here’s something that just occurred to me. In the first Equestria Girls movie, Twilight mentions the possibility of being given a kingdom to rule, and at the beginning of season 9, Celestia and Luna announce their upcoming retirement, stating that Twilight will rule Equestria in their stead. Could this have been foreshadowing?
I think that celestia is the only Known pony at that moment that can move celestial objects (think about her name I think that is implicit her abilityes in it) Iam agree with you that the tree of armony made celestia take the desitions to set the thinks in motion). These are my points 1.celestia doesnt seems worried about knightmare moon return because she had plans to deal with it ( she doesnt have plans for the other villians and her actitud is les confident in the other cases) 2.-she know a lot about armony and frienship— she must know that because of the tree ( celestia isnt perfect) 3-she free discord later in the show why not her own sister. Thanks for the vid i really like to follow you
Look up lunas cutie mark it might help also 1.What is flurry hearts cutie mark? How did she get it? 2.If cadence retired an flurry rules the empire where did cadence go? she might not know where celestia and Luna were born. 3.If twilight steps down who would rule would what's her name( I forgot her name but she was like twilight in the last episode saying friendship is useless)be an Alicorn because spike and the rest of the mane 6(not including twilight)would have to pass on eventually if so would starlight rule or maybe her student(I forgot her name)would she rule alone or not and would starlight rule alone or with sunburst 4.If twilight retires where would she go because like cadence she might not know where celestia and Luna were born and she might not be able to go back to ponyvillie because of being a princess or she announced it to everyone ahead of time unless somehow celestia and Luna wrote to twilight and cadence where they live and could move in with them then...yeah. 5.Did celestia and Luna go back to where they were born?They might've because of family and stuff but they probably didn't because of something terrible or normal that happened. When I say terrible I mean banishment for something they might've gotten blamed for or actually did. And when I say normal I mean like they reached a certain age where they can leave there home and start a family of their own. 6. The Book. Who wrote the book where did it come from what does the symbol on it mean? 7.The Flowing mane and tail. Like Celestia,Luna and Twilight cadence should have that flowing mane and tail but what does it look like and how come only the bigger Alicorns can have them? Flurry heart for instance she has been an Alicorn all her life but she doesn't get a flowing mane and tail do they have to earn it? 8.School for flurry heart. Where did flurry go to school? Was it the school of friendship or maybe a school in the crystal empire if so was she popular because of her parents or she is an Alicorn? did the students bow to her? 9.Traditions. Like Nightmare Night and the summer sun solstice did twilight get her own holiday? If so what would it be called???
Those are all my questions and theories sorry if it's long I always wondered these :p
@Pika _Gurl I thought there was literally evidence she was a pegasus and besides earth pony's get cutie Mark's and they ain't magical pegasi are magical they have the magical ability to fly
I believe that starsworld realise nightmare moon because there used to be a main six that raise the sun before Celestia maybe starsworld studied and made a spell to raise the stars
The Brony Notion in season nine the episode where angel and flutter shy switch bodies when angel is talking to the vet in fluttershys bodies he said he wanted to marry discord. Well it sounded like it at least
We're literally told they are the same size. We can't assume that because they live in a mythological world, things like stars and the sun are "close and small". Evidence must be provided to claim such a thing. Especially not when Twilight has astronomy books that describe objects like comets with the near same definition as our own.
@Evan Cahill The name of the country is Equestria, and it serves as the main setting for the show. It's only natural that we'd see ponies more than any creature.
@Edriane Pedraza Not all ponies have human counter parts and same for humans to ponies. She simply may not even have one. We know pony Sunset has been there a long time but that doesn't mean she will indefinatly have a human counterpart.
@Pika _Gurl Other ponies have been shown to have magic so why would she need to be a unicorn? Plus there is evidence of her being born a pegasus with what the show gave us.
@LucasHFTheWolf Dragoons have been shown to have longer lives than ponies. Torch is shown to have been at his full grown hieght beofre the elements of harmony were even a thing and yet he is still a live and well- only passing the septar because tradition.
@LucasHFTheWolf That means he doesn't have to pass his role so early and could continue to rule with whomever is next to pass on the wisdom and such. Plus one major flaw in your thing was you assuming Twilight would drop her role super quickly (within her generation which makes no sense.)
@LucasHFTheWolf Oh, I get it now. In the end, I don't see there being anyone suddenly taking her spot even with that. Those days' duities will be pushed aside (or done anyway with the sun/moon). And be picked up later.
Tabnaitor ꨄ yeah in our world ,but in the Mlp the sun is the sun and the moon is the moon,and in the mlp world the sun revolves around us and not otherwise like in our world
@Cameo Shadowness hmm, not that I don't believe you, but isn't the human world supposed to be an alternative world of Equestria, the other Mane 6 and the Other 3 Princesses were there, which I'm just confused why Sunset and Starlight aren't at the human world, to think that, why are the Human shadowbolts aren't at Equestria, that reflects on what your saying, not every pony or every human on both worlds have an alternative pony or human, which is the reason why I really wanna know what does The Brony Notion thinks about it since every theory he makes has very explainable meanings that make it a very nice theory, thanks for noticing my comment tho😊
Story: "On the day of the thousandth year. The stars will aid in her escape, and she'll bring about nightime eternal. Translation: "On the day of the thousandth year. The elements will release Nightmare Moon from her prison, and Luna shall regain control of the moon and stars once again for years to come." In short, The Elements took a gamble in finding in their true bearers and got Celestia got her family back. Edit: Keep in mind that the sun is basically one big star. So I say it is still possible that the Tree did indirectly move the stars through Celestia in some way. Maybe by tapping into Celestia's magic in some way without her realizing.
@Shadow Spectrum Swordtails (Triple S) Yeah and it reminds me of an artist I found on Devient art a few years ago who also made arcane circles based on MLP.
this is not about this but in the episode with the friendship fire why would they have celstia and luna on there flag and wasn't that supost to be long long ago would they even know what an alicorn was i think this is weird
i told my dad about this theory of mine and said he that earth ponies should rule becuase they are the thing that both the unicorn and pegasiy have in commen the pony part
I think I know who can control the stars, sun, and moon and what would that pony be? Well remember in the season 8 episode horse play that a unicorn was one of the unicorn who rise the sun but what if that unicorn can rise the moon too just like Luna and in a episode how gospel about Starswirl and say this teleportation Dimensional calibration Transfiguration, you can tell us how powerful starswirl well is because what happen with the stars Aim nightmare moon escape she was teleportation back to the earth and starswirl can go to dreamworld and comforting the scares before Luna and I think starswirl The bearded what’s the one who makes nightmare moon escape!
You know the place where twilight went with celestia and saw those memories and turned her Into allicorn well I think it was dreamland so maybe if twilight writes either maybe friendship stuff or maybe star swirls spells in that spell book of star swirl the bearded with mane six and elements of harmony then maybe that crazy explosion will happen again transport her to dreamland and ege could maybe even do Luna job along with celestia but yo clone herself?? Well you know that river and the cave where pinkie pie went to then maybe somehow they can fo this please reply tell what you think and have a thought of considering making a video theory thing on this please I'm your biggest fan and subscribed clicked that bell everything and I'm only 9 years old and figured this al, out myself so um thankyou oh and please could you give me lime a shout out or something it would mean the WORLD to me please thanks Kind regards Adeel Anjum P.S can you tag me on snapchat
And our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning if it moved we would only see a difference 8 minutes later. But in mlp it's basically instantaneous, meaning their sun is probably going around their earth
@Blake Wickman our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning that it would take 8 minutes before we would see our sun move In mlp it is instantaneous, meaning their sun is way to close to be bigger than their earth (they would then burn to death)
And remember they could have lived in a nightless equestria. or come from the everfree forest, remember they said that it is "unnatural" because it doesn't need ponies to function, plants grow, clouds move, etcetera Or they might even have come from simply another dimension
2nd theory, how did nightmare moon know about the prophecy? Because she released herself We know celestia can move the moon with the sun, so luna can probably move the sun with the moon That means luna can move the sun, moon and stars (the stars always move with the night) maby it just took 1 thousand years to mobe the stars individually
@Cody Cartwright we CAN assume they are close and small, our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning that it would take 8 minutes before we notice movement, but that isn't the case in mlp
@Blake Wickman like I said, they could have even come from another dimension for all we know, they never give us this answer
But maybe the sun was able too move but then something happened. Like I said we don't know
Though thinking about this got me wondering, on the final of season 8 they said "when the sun set's on the 3rd day, all magic will be gone" mmmmmmmmm AND it was night when cozy was defeated, but it was day when they started
@Blake Wickman another thing that can explain why the sun needs to move
Starswirl said that he is the one that kept the everfree Forrest at bay, AND the one who raised the sun. So what if the everfree Forrest moved the sun (we know plants grow and clouds move without the help of ponies) but when ponies started living there and pushing it back it no longer had the power to move the sun, so then it was Starswirl's responsibility to take that place and move it
Hey notion please check some of the theories in the comments and make a follow up!! Really excited about this one its a great topic bound to be lots of thoughts!!
@bronynotion ok watch first episode of my little pony ok watch the part where twilight asks spike to wright a letter ti celestia to warn her about the escape of nightmare moon you know therebis a unicorn statue head nexto big hourglass right watch as twilight passes it the unicorn statue turned into the head of nightmare moon please make video on this
I like this idea a lot, but it got me thinking what if when someone is taken over by "the nightmare" Or what ever took over Luna's body when she got jealous of Celestia, they are still themselves subconsciously trying to get out of the grasps of the creature after realizing what they have done is bad, what if Luna was able to get free for a few seconds to move the stars and aid in her own escape just before the creature took over Luna's body again. I know there is no proof of any pony moving the stars but I think that bc Luna was originally in charge of moving the moon that, it would inquire moving the stars slowly over time, or moving them quickly to help the fait of equestria, thus aiding herself to get free in hopes there was someone in equestria that could finally bring the real her back to her big sister.
@Pika _Gurl this is true but I think in the crystal heart spell book (guaranteed it's not technically cannon) it said that Cadence has a small bit of her own kind of magic in her, which is what allowed her to spread the magic of love.
I know who is Celestia and Luna's parents are. they only have one parent. and that is the tree of Harmony. the tree created Celestia and Luna with its infinite Magic. but Celestia and Luna would only have a tiny portion of the tree of Harmony Magic. the tree gives Celestia the control of the Sun. and Luna the control of the Moon. when the tree of Harmony First branched into the tree Harmony we know today. the tree of Harmony gave birth magically to Celestia and Luna then starswirl the bearded went to check up on the tree. starswirl saw the birth of Celestia and Luna.
At the end twilight on the 2 episode said, "but you sad it was an Ol' foals tail." Then Celesta says, " I told you, you needed to make *FRIENDS*." Isn't that also a clue?
Tree manipulating things seems like the best guess honestly. I got a friend who has a whole theory on that but he hasn't written up on it yet so I'll just say I found it plausible that their sun and stars are like are, though of course this is not necessarily the case. More interesting is that the stars don't move when the Moon and Sun are... this means the sisters CANNOT be rotating the planet, or the stars would appear to move about the pole! I hadn't noticed that before... Anyway, the 4 stars around the moon could easily be planets. This would indicate those are themselves somehow different from ours as planets in our world don't move nearly that quickly, and Mercury necessarily is always near the Sun.
Can you make a theory proving that the sun in that Universe isn't a star because until then this just seems like a cheap way to get out of the obvious flaw in your theory
even then, I reckon she'd have control over the stars regardless.
one can even say luna has control over the moon AND the stars, since both factors disappear when the sun rises, meaning it can support your argument that stars may not be as far from earth as it is in our world, as, if it WERE close, it'd still be visible in the morning sky
now, by this time, celestia has been controlling the moon and the sun. meaning she had to have control over the night sky, thus possibly even having control over the stars as well.
plus, Celestia is the only influential pony we have that can have a 'vision' while being old enough to pass it off as a legend.
Maybe, similar to how in Christianity, God had to send Jesus for saving humanity, Celestia had to fake a vision, pass it off as a legend, have her destiny student read the legend, and have the student THEN meet her destiny friends to counteract the 'threat' then she just have to pull a bit of light show, and manually getting Luna off the moon herself. this explains why celestia was gone without anyone else noticing until Luna's arrival.
She probably did this because 1: she had a vision of other, worse events that are going to be resolved by a team of ponies with the virtues of the pillars 2: her using the elements of harmony on her sister will not reform luna, so she had to nurture a new set of users to embody it. 3. probably saw a vision of twilight having to have understand the meaning of friendship as a path to becoming a princess, and a successor to Canterlot/Equestria
this also explains why now, of all times, she decides to hold her summer sun celebration on ponyville
tl;dr Celestia faked the whole thing, beginning to end, setting off signs that was actually controlled by her, and her orchestrating everything till her 'arrival'.
And also in "royal problem "celestial said that raising the moon is easier than raising the Sun (wasn't she the one who was raising the moon when lona wasn't their? )
well in all science form the sun is tecnically a star so its posible that celestia controls the sun and when luna was banish to the moon celestia was raising the sun , moon and stars....
I think the Pony that controls the Stars is Twilight because if you look at her cutie mark it's Stars and I think that there's something that has a connection to them
@Youssef Hany ok but you really didn't have to I'm trying not to start an argument and thank you for taking the time out of your day to correct my idea and I hope you have a good day I hope we can just leave it at that
Tbh...this may be a long shot. But what if Twilight was the one who moved the starts. Not knowingly however, but maybe her will? Because in future episodes she became a star as she became an alicorn, she has raised both sun and moon, and in the end it could of set the whole timeline up from that one point.
Yeah if you follow the tweet from Faust and take it into account of our world/universe then the answer would just be gravity... which would make sense if Nightmare could get into a trajectory for earth but Nightmare would've burned up in the atmosphere and I doubt an alicorn could survive the blistering heat of reentry in our world.
Actually, we can assume that in their universe there are stars big enough to allow terrestrial planets to rotate around them. In the Big Mac Question, Granny Smith has a dream that she is “exploring strange new worlds”, and while this could be referring to planets in their solar system, I think it is more likely suggesting that their are other solar system and that ponies are advanced enough to know about them. Especially when you consider the fact that in her dream Mud Briar was supposed to be an alien, and if they have a good enough understanding of their solar system they would know that aliens don’t exist, unless their were more solar systems. We know they have an advanced knowledge of the solar system because Pinkie Pie day dreams about the other planets (which I assume are the same as ours) while formulating a plan to break into the castle. So lets just say you just got debunked.
Yeah no... I remember an episode where luna was having trouble in bringing the night (she’s missing the stars) then Celestia said “I’ll help you with the stars if you help me with the sun tommorow.” So this means Celestia can control the stars.
The stars aligned, hm...twilight sparkle the star were sparkling and when twilight look at the stars the stars were moving and there was some stars that were sparkling in twilight 's mane.
@Ashwitha Peddi yes true but still but twilight has the name and now she DOES control the moon and sun right? The beginning of the end season remember?
@Hariku- ! firstly what conacts twilight to the stars Lauren Faust asked who controls the sun,moon and stars. Secondly twilight controled the sun and moon after season 1
@Hariku- ! see that's what a mean it represents her destiny as well as her element of harmony not. Meaning that she doesn't control the stars,btw in the episode boost bustars if twilight controlled the stars she could have send the Ursa major to the sky
But still the sun there could be a star or it could be something different but in the knowen universe how would we know if the sun is a star or not it could be or it couldn’t be a star
Also there could be a Alcorn that controls the star or even star light glimmer cus her name and powers make perfect sense. She was named after the stars and her powers are almost beyond a regular alacorns so it would make sense she did it
I guess luna control the star so she was posited by night mare moon so what if the last bit of magic left in the castle did the retern of night mare moon
I think since Celistia raises the sun and Luna raises the moon and later in season 9 Twilight raises the moon and the sun only alicorns having lot of magic can control the sun ,moon and stars or ponies like Starsworld Or Starlight Glimmer can control the stars
What if it was the elements of harmony, who freed Luna from the moon. I know, that ,, Lullaby for a princess” is just a fan made, but this might explain, how Celestia’s hair changed from pink to this multicolor and why she just SAW the process.
I think the dark magic that luna gained was strong enough to bail her out think about it after episode 1 when nightmare moon was defeated not all the dark magic went and some of it escaped it would have to be really strong to do that or idk someone help my brain
I think i might know who set nightmare moon free. Laurel asked " who controls the Sun, moon, and stars. Meenwhile nightmare moon was stuck at the top of the moon celectia controled the Sun and moon. I know i dident way anything about the stars but I still think celectia is behind all of this.
In my little pony magic princess games... Description of princess celestia is "princess celestia the ruler of equestria. Responsible for raising the sun, moon and the stars" :)))
Did you not get it but I’m starting to think we should look at some ponies with starcutey marks but do they have a third sister Celestia Luna f please answer me
STAR-light glimmer, let's face it. With luna in control, no one really could have anything to do after all they all did luna's bidding and so they wouldn't want a cutie mark and would go to starlight to join her cult. I mean why else did starlight make a timeline of luna's rule?
"I saw the signs of Nightmare moon's return" could also mean Celestia saw the signs of the Mane six finally coming together, and so she released Luna from the moon since everything was ready?
@ShiningCrystal that's my opinion too, that she was training Sunset for that purpose but when she responded like she did, she had to do it all over again with Twilight. I wonder if she set anything up in the 900 previous years at all
@ShiningCrystal yeah maybe she did say sunset started being her student not long before twilight she wanted sunset to do the job before all that she wanted to be a princess but then she abandend her studying but twilight didint had the intress of princess and she became a princess herself
well there was something we missed, at the very begining. we were shown that celestia had twilights crown on so it was foreshadowing what twilights element looked like, i spotted it wile rewatching the first season but in season 4 celestia didnt have it on, maybe the animators forgot and went lazy half way through?
@Unicorn Number1 yes, i did spot it not so long ago, it was right infront of us this entire time! it was at the begining in the illustration as celestia was explaining how luna turned into nightmare moon
@ShiningCrystal no, it’s more a combination of celestia’s crown with twilights element on top in the form of a crown. I think what the picture was saying is that the crown on top of celestia’s crown is the elements of harmony, since twilights element shape seems to be in that crown, and the other elements have become embedded in those amulets with the gold, so they were probably the gold around the element of magic.
@Catto the Crying no offence, but you might want to be more specific and say ‘tree of harmony’ next time cause at first I didn’t realise you meant that
@Catto the Crying well if it was the tree of harmony ( which is by the way weakened without the elements of harmony ), I think it would be more like, having to wait 1,000 years for the element bearers to come
If you think about it Starswirl, Celestia AND Luna can all raise the night sky and therefor the stars. However, notice that celestial objects can only be moved manually across a single axis (up/down, not East/west/etc).
So it is possible that Nightmare Moon was able to slowly, overtime, move the positions of nearby stars towards her and release herself using celestial magic.
In mythology the alignment of stars and planets triggers powerful magic (think of Hercules and the Titans escaping).
Celestia would have detected Nightmare Moon’s plans and calculated exactly when the escape could happen based on distance and rate of change; 1000 years later.
“Stars will aid in her escape,” would then be a literal translation of star-boosted magic. This is a simpler explanation that fits Faust’s tweet and the show’s canon.
The sun and moon can move in any direction because when Twilight gained all the alicorn magic in season 4 she struggled to line up the sun and moon. Celestia and Luna are just good at what they do
Hypothesis: The thousand years in the moon was like a sentence Nightmare Moon had to serve, so that's why it was known/prophesied that she would escape a thousand years later. The magic Celestia used threw the world out of balance (since the sisters are meant to rule together) that it caused a backlash: Nightmare Moon breaking free and Celestia being encapsulated in the sun; however, the magic she used was powerful enough to delay this effect. Celestia foresaw the friendship of the Mane Six and the power they would possess (or at least the potential for it), and therefore orchestrated their meeting so that they could harness the Elements and defeat/redeem Nightmare Moon. This redemption caused the world to go back in balance (Celestia returning from the sun). Thoughts? :)
When Twilight read the book I noticed something the stars represent her cutie mark and so is shining armours I mostly think Twilight because she is very organised and the stars were in a pattern that was organised I think
@Gabby Hall season 9 sister vacation episode, literally organized the stars, kinda ruins any chances of the universe being more complicated or interesting
I'm thinking maybe Grogar was actually the one who directly released Nightmare Moon, but he actually wasn't able to escape at all and he is still up there to this day... as the constellation Ares.
I think your Grogar theory is a good one, aside from the Cozy-allowed-for-Grogar-to-be-released thing for obvious reasons. That would mean Gusty's banishing spell would still be in place, much like the forcefield spell around the mountain. I'd just like to point out that it's mentioned Celestia brings out the sun each day and Luna brings out the moon and STARS at night. It's also mentioned that Celestia took on the power and responsibilities of her sister. This would point to Celestia being able to move the sun, moon, and STARS (like Lauren Faust commented). I still think your Grogar theory is more probable, just a thought ;)
I think the whole reason is that Celestia has made the Celestia's School of Gifted Unicorns is to find the one that could use the one that could use the Element of Magic. The one that showed the most promise of becoming the Bearer of Magic became her personal student. It took her a thousand years to find Twilight Sparkle. If Sunset Shimmer didn't have an ego she would have "found" the book telling about Nightmare Moon. Thought with a change so it wouldn't speak about the thousand year.
I know this probably sounds dumb. I havent seen all 9 season either( i kinda stopped at the start of season 5). Celestia can move a darf star form one part of the world to the next with ease. Would it be just as easy to move 4 of them to the moon to help her sister. I mean Celestia did put luna in the moon. Also where was Celestia in the first episode. She was no where to be seen till the verry end.
You brought up some interesting points here, Sawtooth. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! ^_^ I wonder why those four stars were necessary. Wouldn't magic be all that was needed? If Celestia really were responsible, I suppose the stars could have been orbs of her own magic set to let Nightmare Moon out at the right time. The Tree potentially being involved is a cool idea, but we don't know how powerful it is without the Elements. It also doesn't seem to be capable of remotely controlling the Elements if we look at the episode "Princess Twilight Sparkle" as an example. If the Tree were powerful enough to release Nightmare Moon on its own, maybe freeing her weakened it enough to allow Discord's plunderseeds to sprout. Alternatively, the Tree could have sent Celestia helpful visions like the one she had about Tirek to influence her actions. Maybe it even gave her the Mare in the Moon prophecy and showed her who the next Element bearers would be. Why wait a thousand years though? Surely Celestia tried looking for new Element bearers to get Luna back ASAP? The Mane Six can't be the ONLY worthy ones around. Look at the Young Six.
I’ve always liked the 3rd sister theory of the stars, albeit we haven’t had much evidence for it except nephew blueblood, and the prophesy. I think it makes good fanfiction material.
She said that she "saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return." We're assuming that that refers to the movement of the stars, but that may not be the signs she is referring to. The Sonic Rainboom that awakened the Mane Six's Cutie marks may have been the sign. In Twilight's flashback, we see that Celastia is outside seconds after it happens, we don't see her seeing it, but as the ruler of the heavenly bodies, you're going to notice a rainboom radiating out across Equestria. The next instant she enters into the classroom where Twilight is roided out on magic and, immediately after calming her down, makes her her apprentice. Nit to mention that Twilight's Cutie Mark is the central image on the Tree of Harmony. I would not put it past Celestia to have investigated the origin of the boom and any other pony's that gained their cutie marks at the time. These are the signs that Nightmare Moon, would be freed and reddemed.
Well in the first episode luna raised the moon celestial said "ill help you raise the stars tonght if you help me with the sun in the morning" so it possible she did controle the stars while luna was gone
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the sun is a star, so maybe she has at least a little control over stars Edit : I made this comment before the pinned comment
I thought that too. I wonder if the other stars are really controlled by her. If not, could you imagine if there was some creature on ever solar system that had Celestia's power, and could control their own sun? Wouldn't that be rad?
it could also explain why it took 1000 years since they are far away, she could start to move them as fast as she knew it would help to free Luna but it took that time
What if the stars are just small dots in mlp universe,and when Luna/Celestia rise the moon the stars are just rising with the moon its like she is rising the night actually
@Lunar Hexagon since your making assumptions, who wrote the book that the stars would aid in her escape, did celestia herself write that, or was it a prediction of someone else.
@ArcheIsHere maybe it was already known kind of spell to send someone to moon or similar stuff so she just knew from previous uses of it or if magic in MLP universe has science-like properties (can be learned, new spells are created and stuff so is possible), she could discover to use stars as "anti-spell", also she could time travel after something bad happend (Discord, Tirek, Luna getting back herself or any other stuff) so she made sure to avoid such a scenario, timetravel is canon and Celestia is much more powerfull than Twilight so she surely could travel back for 1000 like years
@Lunar Hexagon yes celestia is powerful but celestia would only stay in the past for a few moments. Starlight Glimmer made a few adjustments and fixes with the previous time travel spell. And who even wrote the book where Nightmare Moon would release in due time. And IF celestia can time travel why didn't she stop her sister from turning into nightmare moon.
@ArcheIsHere we dont know how long it took Luna to be NMM, I dont think it was that one moment so she maybe didnt knew when change it or also she maybe didnt went to past herself, she just could send book or instructions while it was late anyway for Luna to not become NMM
@ArcheIsHere but it wouldnt most likely help since it is late to prevent turn in NMM to prevent whole event to happen she had to find when she got past point of no return which is surely quite hard to do, and abybe show is just in timeline when she didnt hit such a point, Luna surely wasnt one day all OK and second just wanting to rule herself alone.. also, surely whole time-travel idea can be crab crap and didnt absolutely happend
I always had thought Luna was incharge of the stars because NIGHT. I mean Equastria isn't the real world and both the moon and the SUN are orbitting around the world, orbitting with some help from Celestia and Luna. But did Luna's powers just dissapear when she was sent to the moon? Did Celestia steal her powers? When she returned to Equastria, she still had her powers? Are both sisters able to control both the day and the night? This also is a question I have but onto the part we are about. This would make possible for both Celestia to free her or Luna to free herself and guess you got me there. Tree of Harmony is a possibility and not as the elements but it still has Celestia and Luna's cutie marks' on it's body. But what I think is nobody really helped her but the night, or stars or whatever itself. How did Discord come back? He was defeated with the elements of harmony, just like Luna. Discord is chaotic and the chaos between the crusaders set him free. And Luna's one power is the night. THE LONGEST NIGHT it was, wasn't it? If just a little bit of chaos set Discord free, it isn't surprising that the longest night set her free. Also before you ask: Both her and CELESTIA'S powers were at max but why the longest night, not longest day? She was trapped in the moon and the moon isn't up at the in daytime. Or maybe the spell could only last for that long of a time. She made it last that much because she knew she would miss her sister and she probably thought a 1000 YEARS was enough time to think about everything you have done. Why specifically on the longest night? Because the ponies WOULD BE scared if they knew their belowed ruler had set the villian free on long term. Maybe they never told that they both could control both day and night and appareantly nopony was smart enough to question how Celesetia could gain control over night so easily. Since the ponies were only told as Celesti: day and Luna: night, they believed that the stars had a role whie it was just a cover-up. These are my theories. I tried to make them get along with each as much as posible. I dont want my two theories just busting themselves.
You also have to remember that mlp universe works differently from our universe, the sun moves around thier earth. So thier sun is small And IF the stars were the same as ours it would be light years away (too far for celestia to make a difference) our sun is only 8 light minutes away
Another reason to proof that they don't work with the same logic we do. The stars disappeare when it is day, but if the moon and sun are both in the sky then it is bothe day and night, stars on moon side no stars on the sun side (btw I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you could be wrong)
Green Star2020-06-16 16:51:14 (edited 2020-06-16 16:51:24 )
@Eeveton 64 Omg the pinned comment, I am so sorry I didn’t read the pinned comments before it was posted, I like seriously, the pinned comment was posted after mine, I couldn’t read it then
Lauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of harmony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
@Yemariam Tewodros i think they have more family members we dont know that much about, maybe she has a little control over the stars but i also think they have relatives who controls other things in the universe. their relatives/brothers/sisters might live in other dimensions and they might send each other letters every now and then. just a theory tho, i have written down so many possible consepts on a paper and its endless. there is more stuff in the universe than stars, moon and light sources.
Celestia deliberately misled Twilight in that episode when she seemingly disregarded Twilight's concerns and called the Nightmare Moon prophecy a foal's story. So I don't see why she wouldn't do it again. Especially when she needs to hide how much influence she has over the passage of events.
I think i might have an idea who moved the stars- its.....STAR SWIRL THE BEARDED! There is two reosons: 1- after celestia goes aside.. there has to be a very powerful and good at magic kind of pony to move stars, and guess what? The first name that came in my mind was star swirl! 2- his name contains ‘star’ which makes me more suspicious on him 🤔
I still dont know if he and shadow pony were there when the stars moved and help nightmare moon escape.... Like if u agree 👍🏻
I mean yes and no because star swirl was in limbo stuck for 1000 years even when luna had gotten out, but like he said it could been the tree and who planted the tree star swirl also his gang, so probably star twirl new this was going to happen and he planned it for luna defeat, even though he was stuck his powers can still access the tree and the tree freed luna But the tree probably set luna free because it knows their was going to be element holders which can defeat luna but star swirl didn't know their were going to he elements, he just knew that it would set her free and defeat somehow but then it still wouldn't make sence , so for me i don't think it was the tree or star swirl, plus both can't move the sun or moon, i mean star swirl can only with his gang but rebecca said someone not a group until celestia amd luna appeared they can move sun and moon alone sooo... its not star swirl or the tree.
@MemeCraft Wasn't he trapped in limbo for 1000 years, as was Luna? Maybe he cast some sort of spell that would only take place exactly 1000 years in the future.
To be fair its entirely possible celectia DID see the signs in a vision and sought out to recreate them as she thought where needed. While i agree we cant make any decisions based off our worlds science in equestria however we can assume some things.
An example here is that in most mythologies if you have a deity of the Sun and Moon generally its either the god of the sun or the god of the moon that moves the stars and puts consolations in. More often then naught the deity of the moon HOWEVER at this current time celectia had control of all of them and its been shown that the stars vanish when no one controls the sun and moon and both are raised in the sky together. No stars on the night half. What's more i might be remembering incorrectly but when twilight rose the moon for the first time and lowered the sun stars didn't show up right away. it showed the same backdrop as if the sun and moon where still in the sky. Though to be fair this could be because twilight was just getting used to the powers the first time as we see but its still possible you need to put them there.
So I believe someone does in fact control the stars. While its possible there a constant that doesn't mean there not controllable.
and if its not like our world its entirely possible stars are easer for both sisters to control since they have aspects of both the moon and sun. Moon = night time, Sun = light. and we have see that both sisters can work well with the aspects alone for the most part.
So on a final note YES based on how celectia seems to act all through out the show from following destiny to guding ponies with her vissions and using everything at her desposal to get things done in a manner fate decrees i think its ENTIREL posible for celectia to say that line, Still be right, AND have done it all herself.
On aanother note she forsaw the whole thing and knew of the rhime. She also didnt seem to show ANY ressitance but if we look back at the first fight celectia and loona blas alicorn laser beems all over and had for sometimes before celectia god bucked into the elements room. So she could have faught back and i think even if she would have known she wouldbe weeker than her she would fight back a hundread percent if she didnt know there was a way for her to return to being luna again.
I’m still so confused my the Wizard Bathroom retcon because you’d think when there’s a bathroom that’s so important to the plot she’d skim her own book to see if she contradicts anything in the text.
If I recall it right, there was a scene back in the season 5 finale that showed that even if Celestia, Discord, Grogar or the Tree of Harmony had nothing to do with Nightmare Moon's escape; she still would have found a way to escape the moon around that time. I say this because there was a scene back in the season 5 finale where Twilight and Spike got sent to a future were Nightmare Moon has un-opposingly ruled Equestria for many years with Celestia trapped in the moon. Also there was a comic book that showed Nightmare Moon's return even if Celestia chose "somepony" else to be her student instead of Twilight.
Honestly after the thing with Starswirl's unfinished spell and the tickets for the GGG, I had no doubt Tia would have trained Twilight for Nightmare Moon.
Hey, remember what the narrator said in the first episode? "Celesta took over the responsibility to raise the sun and the moon" and Lauren said " sun, moon and stars" but this time the stars was mentioned 🤔
Unlike Discord, Celestia very much had an attachment to the villain that was being released. The reason I don’t think she was being hypocritical by calling Discord out is because she wanted her sister back, and was aiming for the Mane 6 to cure/purify her, whereas Discord had no real reason to want the villains he summoned around and only did it to test Twilight, not because he wanted to see them change. Celestia saw Luna as someone who needed to be rescued, while Discord saw the villains as a tool to train someone else.
I think Celestia saw the signs that would allow her to bring her sister back: Twilight and her friends were connected to the Elements of Harmony; Luna had been gone a thousand years, which is probably when the magic had weakened; she may have had a vision of her sister's return. So to aid her, she moved the stars to align in the perfect position for a counter spell.
I have a question that I always have in my mind, Where does Chrysalis came from? who are her parents? Does she' s the first Changeling? What is her origin?
After thinking about this for quite a while and creating my own theory, I think that we should look at the premise of what "the stars, moon, and sun" and who controls them. We know that Luna and Celestia control both the sun and the moon. But who controls the stars? I read some of the comments saying about Starswirl, but I must bring this to the table... Starswirl was in Limbo at the time of the escape of Nightmare Moon. So who would be the next relation to star? I present you with this, Twilight Sparkle. Sure the name is not much to look at, but what sparkles? stars. Her cutie mark also is a star. Being alive and training under Celestia could have made her accidentally play a role in releasing Nightmare Moon.
Well the name "Celestia" means "of the heavens" in Latin, and another way of saying "of the heavens" is "of the stars". Also, considering Celestia had control over the sun and moon during the thousand years Luna was banished, it's not too far of a stretch to say that her magic extended to all celestial bodies, quite literally embodying her name.
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Yari Abigail X32020-04-03 22:18:49 (edited 2020-04-03 22:20:04 )
OPE, and if she did? I wouldn’t blame her- That’s her sister- AND, she also probably knew that Twilight would save her?
Twilight did it celestia only have the sun power and luna only has power over the moon Edit:maybe it happened in her sleep and she didn’t know while it happened the next day
@CakeMiix PlaysYT Twilight is the princess of friendship, she wouldn't have any reason to set Nightmare Moon free. If she DID use her magic, her horn would have glowed or they would have shown us.
@Lillie Hoffman Their parents weren't revealed yet and Celestia and Luna may have had normal parents. They could have been so special Star Swirl took them in and made them alicorns. Just a theory I watched--
I think Grogar being behind the curtain was a brilliant idea. And, I know it was decided early into scripting, but that reveal was the worse thing in Gen4. BUT! It gave us a what if, what if he was back, and what he would had actually been like?
Releasing old villains would be within his character. After all his original character was a necromancer. The perfect opposite for The Tree Of Harmony. Wait Celestia released Nightmare Moon? I..........
Okay, even tho Faust no longer controls the canon of Gen4 she was involved with most of its' canon. The show's bible mentioned sea ponies after all, which ended up canon years down the road. And, she is the creator, so, unless the show itself (or the comics) said otherwise, why not trust her?
Yes after Alicorn Twi she said her original plan for Twi was impossible, she had planned it. She had it planted, she just ended up leaving before it was set in stone. And if there was ANYBODY that had the seer magical ability to unleash what was told to us as a PERMANENT SEAL it would had to be the one who set that seal, or a being far more powerful.
Whose more powerful than Celestia? Whose weaker is a better question. ^^; But you see my point. With Grogar revealed as a fake the only character in Gen4's lore that could had freed Nightmare Moon had to be Celestia, or a character we never got to see. I will point out 3 moments:
In the final Ep we are shown the Young6 battling a villain among those stain glass windows. Who was that? Are we going to see that battle in the S10 comics?
We get a final what if future from S5's final of Equestria as a desert wasteland. With the 2017 film I thought "Hey, this movie's villain might be the worse of them all that gave us that desert" but no, think about it. The Hippogriffs' home was only in ruin, and while the Storm King could had used the Alicorn magic to render Equestria to ash, what would he had gained?
Plus he would only have 3 Alicorns, or 2 if Cadance was killed off beforehand by Chrysalis, to gain power. Look at Tirek, he didn't lay Equestria to ashes. When we saw Grogar I thought "Finally, this guy had to be the cause with his round table of villains" but no he's a fake that wouldn't had been there without Twi.
Who rendered Equstria into that desert? Were we going to get that reveal as Cozy Glow's creator told me he had plans for her and that, being a manipulator, not all was what it seemed.
And finally, Celestia sent Discord to the Mane6 to be reformed. So that is canonally within her character. But if it wasn't her who released Nightmare Moon, would it had been the very villain who turned Equestria into a desert? Hm.....we never saw a what if future for Starlight, and the Sirens could've found that portal given time, hm......you know, what if Grogar was sealed within his own bell and was taking in the stolen magic? What happened to that bell by the way?
Another spectacular and fantastic theory vid Brony Notion i love it, i remember when Lauren Faust confirmed that Celestia was responsible for Nightmare Moon's "escape", in fact my theory as to why Celestia released Nightmare Moon is because it's possible that she some how knew that the Mane 6 were the new Elements of Harmony and that they could free Luna from the evil she was under.
Technically, Celestia had a reason to lie to Twilight about releasing Luna. What's that? Her TRUST.
THINK, Would Twilight have reacted well to finding put her mentor purposefully released Night Mare Moon? JUST because she and her friends would become the barrers of the elements?
I don't think anyone would, so she used word play to keep Twilight's trust without actually lying.
The book said, "at the longest day of a thousand years, the stars will aid her escape", and I think Celestia moves the sun slower than usual so that the day becomes longer.
Guys, it's twilight. She went back in time after becoming princess and learning to control the sun and moon, as well as stars, and helped the stars move.
Tbh, we have seen Celestia playing her subjects throughout the whole show. She didn't get her nickname Trolllestia for nothing. So, while I like your theory, I personally think it could be totally possible that Celestia freed Luna at the right time and the just saying that she wasn't involved. Kind of like trolling at another level. Also, we see how Celestia thinks about having to send Twilight away. She is worried about everything but the prophecy and I don't think that the princess who is able to forsee the future would put her best and favourite student purposely in danger. I think she freed Luna knowing that Twilight would find her friends and tem together being able to reform the princess of the night. Imo, Celestia worriying about if Twilight finds friends was more because she knew that, if the friendships fail, she would doom her own kingdom. So she gives Twilight the instructions to visit each of the other mane six and after making sure she did, Celestia freed her sister fully knowing that theane six are able to defeat Nighmare Moon.
Aren't stars the tiny versions of a sun? That's what my sister told me. Based off of what my sister said, If Celestia can control the sun and stars are a tiny version of the sun, that means Celestia could've let her sister escaped because of training for starlight sparkle! Or Celestia could've not handled the pressure by setting the moon and raising the sun, then working all day until night, set the sun and raise the moon, to be honest I'd want help from my sister after 1,000 years because there is new problems daily.
ok so I have a theory. "Who controls the sun, moon and stars?" Of course we all assume that means Celestia since she is the only one we see that is able to control the sun and moon on her own. But the stars? We've only ever seen Luna be able to control them. And i agree with The Brony Notion in that while the sun is considered a star in our world, it may not be in Equestria. Celestia was gifted the power to move the sun, and yet we see that she can move the moon as well. As such, i don't think it would be a stretch to assume that Luna could move the sun too. And if that's the case, then Luna is the one who controls the sun, the moon and the stars. And by extension, Nightmare Moon. I'm proposing the possibility that Nightmare Moon broke herself out. After centuries of isolation in the moon, her moon, her anger would begin to grow. and she would use this anger to fuel her power enough that even in her prison she could control the stars. Ever so slightly. Until eventually, the stars would aid in her escape and she would finally have her revenge.
But ... Celestia has at least a little more power than Luna even without the elements because she has had more time to experience life and adapt her magic. Luna can't control the sun but maybe NIGHTMARE MOON in the season 7 episode "A Royal Problem" . We have good source of info ( Daybreaker ) so we know the villian versions of themself have more power. Well maybe a dream is not a good source of info but seriously Daybreaker was basiclly created by Starlight but techinclly Lauren Faust sooo
I kinda think that if that was true then Nightmare Moon would have been released a long time ago. She was already very angry at Celestia, and villains blinded by rage usually act pretty recklessly.
If you watch the video where Twilight can't decide who to give the grand Galloping Gala ticket to then you hear Rarity say that Blue Bell is Celestia's nephew and the only way is possible is if luna had a baby or they have another sister and the sister would be the one who controls the Stars
Lauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of armony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
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Ross Nelson2020-09-26 02:17:18 (edited 2020-09-26 02:17:59 )
IMO, Queen Celestia is responsible for all of it, from the first episode up to Twilight Sparkle's coronation as Princess. Celestia had visions of the future, and followed what she saw in order to "teach" Twilight how to become Princess. Destiny (and visions of the future) completely denies free will, especially when the visions come true. Just one person's opinion.
Actually I always thought celestia controlled those stars so she could free nightmare moon because She literally banished her own sister that must have hurt a lot so she probably wanted to see her again and felt 1000 years is better than forever
They secretly have a third sibling locked in the dungeons who controls the stars. But it's a brother, so it's okay, seeing that most of the stallions get the short end of the stick overall...
My thoughts exactly. It was probably all planned out by the original six before they went to limbo. But if this is the case, how? Has starswirl ever had visions like celestia?
Maybe it can be star swirl because he has a star in his cutie mark and name and isn't your cutie mark your destiny. He also taught luna so it would make sense but wasn't he stuck in limbo . Maybe he could see what's happening like how discord could to
And plus star is in star swirls name like he must cntroll the stars but if I am wrong than I think Celestia cntlolls the stars because in the day the stars are still there only of the bright light they do not show
No he does not oh, also theres one character okay kind of two, but evwn more hidden unless you live in the U.S.A no but everyone else hard to maoe sence , 1. Luna her name is latin for the moon. 2. Celestia NASA did something for the sun . Soo names don't play such a big role in determining what a pony controls big shining example trixie cutie mark: Moon Power: Stage triks. theory debunked.
@Ashwitha Peddi he didn’t need to. We all know that this show has prophecies that don’t require that level of detail. He just needed to see nightmare moon coming and would also explain why one of their last actions prior to limbo would be to make a special trip, deep into the forest to place a single seed in the ground.
@Ashwitha Peddi the prophecy from episode 1 goes into detail about how nightmare moon wanted to take over equestria but eneded up in prisoned in the moon ant that “on the longest day of the thousandth year, she would bring about nighttime eternal”. It says nothing about the main six coming to defeat her. It was also said to be from “old pony times.” And this theory is about the legend, not what happens after it.
@Ashwitha Peddi Starswirl probably foresaw either Luna slowly turning resentful, the battle between Celestia and Luna or Luna’s imprisonment itself, and that’s why he had no idea who twilight was. It was Celesta who figured out the details of what would happen after nightmare moon was free
@Ashwitha Peddi That’s the thing. The prophecy has nothing to do with the main six. It only has to do with her imprisonment which was long before twilight and her friends were even born
@Ashwitha Peddi Please re-read what I said in the comment directly above your 7-8 minute ago one. And if there is any other part of this you would like me to talk about please let me know because I am a big fan of this sort of thing and like talking to others about it
@Shadow Bolt Prince A great wizard like star swril would have preparations before sacrificing his life to defeat someone like the pony of shadows edit:and i think starswril would not have visions because he is a unicorn! It would be logial for alicorns to have visions but not unicorns
@Ashwitha Peddi exactly. But it IS cannon that Starswirl was a mentor to Celestia. He probably still had something to do with teaching her about the idea of visions in the first place
Unless you think the idea of visions is instinctual. In that case, perhaps Celestia has the visions as a philly and while she was still pupil of Starswirl’s, went to warn the pillars.
@Ashwitha Peddi You know, that actually makes a lot more sense. Though that would suggest Celestia being a linchpin in this from the very beginning. Well played Hasbro
@Ashwitha Peddi That Starswirl May not have been the one to have the vision yes. That the rest of the theory is flawed because of that no. You actually helped me figure out the one thing that I was still scratching my head about.
@Jimmy Orozco you know in the episode where rockhoof is trying to find his place in the world, when he tried to use the stars to navigate the boat twilight said that the stars slowly move over time, suggesting that the stars act the same in equestria as they do in our world, meaning that no one controls the stars. Edit:Or starswirl knew that he would be in limbo, so he put the part of him that controlled the stars into his seed
@Kirk Lundberg exactly what I mean. And for your edit, idk, maybe. He probably set a spell before he trapped himself, the pillars and the pony of shadows in limbo.
@Jimmy Orozco I think sawtooth's theory with the tree controling every thing is a valid argument. Think of the sun and moon during the plunder seed incident.
@Kirk Lundberg i think that happened because Tia and Luna keep the sun and moon in balance, and when they were trapped, they couldn’t keep them in balance so the sun and moon were kinda just there
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Jimmy Orozco2020-11-30 20:33:22 (edited 2020-11-30 20:33:38 )
@Kirk Lundberg and the reason the plunder seeds were growing was because the tree was weakened so the tree couldn’t have been controlling those (the sun and moon)
@Jimmy Orozco discord said that the the plunder seeds were stealing the magic of the tree, the sun and moon were not usually parallel to each other, except when magic was in play, and we know that calestia and luna didn't do it so who or what else controlled the sun and moon?
@Kirk Lundberg yeah somebody as chaotic as Discord probably would’ve created seeds that can take Celestia and Luna’s powers and used it to make the sun and moon sit in midair
@Kirk Lundberg yes! Watch Sawtooth’s video called “How Discord came to be”. To summarize, he theorizes that when the tree was full grown, Discord was pulled into existence so that there can be a ying-yang balance.
@Kirk Lundberg I’m not really sure. I don’t think it was created to fight chaos but to help the Mane Six realize that they can help others change for the better, and also to give Twi a nice new castle.
My guess is that spike is a seventh element, the element of "working through differences". When you think about it, spike is the only dragon permanently living in equestria at the beginning of the show. In equestria girls, sunset is different because she was born a pony. The young 6 don't have this element because they are all from different races. The pillars are the hardest, but terix's brother seems a good fit.
@Kirk Lundberg the elements of harmony represent stuff about friendship so it kinda works Though spike might just have a throne because it would be mean not to give him one
@Ashwitha Peddi one of them is green but it’s Fluttershy’s. I fondly remember in the first episode that green gem and Fluttershy loves nature so her gem was green before it turned into a pink necklace
@Ashwitha Peddi yeah I personally think he doesn’t control them too. Kir told me about how in an episode Twilight said “the stars move by themselves over time.”
not possible by the time nightmare moon escaped star swirl and the other pillars were already in limbo and when star swirl was released he looked drained of his magic meaning he was useing all of his magic to keep the pony of shadows in limbo in otherwords i rest my case
@Espresso not possible because celestia was to young to understand such powerful magic also if that actualy happened celestia would of dealt with it years ago
@alex whittingham it could be possible because in an episode Granny Smith was telling the story of how ponyville was founded she mentioned princess Celestia and she was at the same age she was at the whole series and Granny Smith was old but Celestia never got old while Granny Smith yes
@Espresso the reason behind that is because without celestia the sun or the moon would not be able to be risen and lowered and we all know how that turned out when discords chaos seeds invaded equestria and took the two princesses hostage next to the tree of harmony and everything went chaotic during that time the moon nor the sun was lowered or raised they were both in the sky creating half night half day
@alex whittingham what I try to say is that celestia could be at the perfect age just to understand the powerful magic when starswirl the bearded didn’t disappeared but I have another theory >:3 tell you later
@alex whittingham ok look my other theory was that clover the clever was or is a princess first of all twilight acting like clover the clever in an episode said: my mentor starswirl the bearded I know just because he was celestia’s and Luna’s teacher doesn’t prove nothing BUT as celestia, Luna and starswirl are really powerful what means clover the clever was really really powerful and I think anyone noticed that cause she was really intelligent as twilight was acting like that and I investigated more and discovered that clover the clever was a character named clever clover from G2 (generation 2) from the mlp show and I found a video that said remaking at the video cover and the tittle of the video said that they were remaking PRINCESS clever clover now please tell if it is possible or not I need to know if my theory is good
@Espresso well first off we would need to know what clover the clever did to earn her alicorn status next we would need to study about her past and what she did for a living to determine if she was in the school of magic or if starswirl taught her on his own then we would need to research the seven trials clover the clever did also she did chase down a evil sorcerer with a powerful relic called the memmory stone which could be connected to her earning her alicorn status then you can backup the the theory with the evidence you obtained do that and you will have a really solid theory
@alex whittingham my theory is that pinkie pie is one of the gift givers because at the first movie of eg (equestria girls) the other pinkie pie of equestria girls guessed all about twilight like if they knew each other for years like she guessed that she was a pony princess etc. When twilight came back to equestria the normal pinkie guessed that flash sentry invited her to dance there were 3 gift givers in “the best gift ever” one sees the past other stays at the present the other sees the future there could one the sees what happens in parallel dimensions and I have other proof the (pause for dramatic moment) the pinkie sense (I think that is the way you say it in English) I mean she could predice things like the gift giver that sees the future and pinkie pie is a pony who always knows what ponies like remember the secret planing cave of pinkie (I think that’s how you say it on English) she had information files of everyone in ponyville maybe she could see what happens in other worlds or know everything about the existence of equestria ok no but maybe she could know what are the problems of other ponies remember the song smile she always helped ponies solve their problems and maybe see what is happening in other dimensions or worlds to help but why pinkie went with the gift givers then well maybe it was the destiny or maybe she doesn’t remember of what happened in her past with the gift givers maybe the gift givers gave her special powers she didn’t even noticed she had, things just happened for her and I just remember about madam pinkie XD well that is my theory what do you think? :D
@Espresso but remember the files they were also in the main hall when the mayor and applejack were there searching for a certain file maybe that where pinkie pie got the files
@alex whittingham wait I have a question is it pinkie sense how you say “pinkie sentido” (Spanish) in English? You know when she predicts if something will fall from the sky for example
@Shadow Bolt Prince after I think about it star swril nor celestia balled out nightmare moon,remember when Faust said celestia and luna were naturally born as alicorns
@Ashwitha Peddi wait but in the episode of season 6 where we see flurry heart for the first time they said the she was the first pony that was born as an alicorn or something like that I don’t remember what they exactly said
may be celestia waited 1000 years so that the four stars could come in a perfect order because if she had to wait for the main six she would have done it before 1000 year's day when twilight was her students and if twilight was her students the main six must have grown enough to understand the situation May I am correct please consider my theory once 😁😁😁
Well, I think yes. I mean, of course she would miss her sister. Also, in order for Twilight to make friends and become the princess, she would need to release her.
doesn't luna control the stars I think the stars were controled by the ✨️spirit of the elements of harmony tree ✨️ and luna was waiting for the day the elements would let her out.....k know I don't wanna sound crazy BUT DIDNT LUNA AND CELESTIA HAVE POWER OVER THE TREE OF HARMONY LUNA LET HER SELF OUT ITS SORTA CLEAR! AND SHE THE CREATER WAS PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT LUNA AS IN THE PRESENT SHE CONTROLS THE MOON AND STARS! if u like my thoughts give a like 👍
The sun is a star, so Celestia could be considered someone who controls stars but we only see her control the sun so we wouldn't know if she controls other stars or not.
I know this was a year ago however I can’t help but remember. Starswirl and some other unicorns raised and lowered the sun and moon before Tia and Luna took over. Perhaps he had something to do with the return of nightmare moon?
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Zara KB2020-11-21 21:07:20 (edited 2020-11-21 21:12:01 )
Just saying, our dear Twili released Star Swirl without really thinking. And look at her cutie mark, it’s made of STARS. Is it possible that she’s the ruler of stars which is why she could kind of control the sun and moon (the sun is a star) when the magic of all of the main princesses was transferred to her when Terik took over. Granted, it was hard for her to position the sun/moon, it was possible and she did do it. It’s possible that she rules over Equestria , the stars and is the Princess of Friendship (therefore making her the most powerful princess known to equestria yet). She may have set free Nightmare Moon to show a point that she was right about seeing the signs of her return. Seeing as her only drive back then was magic and not friendship, I was thinking maybe it could be true. Just a quick theory tho.
What I think is that when Celesta sent Luna to the moon it kinda set a spell that in a thousand years Luna would be done with her punishment and return so not celesta herself more the elements of harmony/her sending Luna/nightmare moon to the moon did. Even in the book it says Luna would be back in a thousand years meaning she was meant to come back, so when she was sent there it must have been set for only a thousand years. Another thing why would celesta send her sister to the moon and not try to have her come back again. So it makes sense that when she sent her there she made a time for her to come back.
for the one who controls the stars...i think its gusty the great! im not so certain i might as well have to lok back through her history, the one im talking about is the one who locked away grogars bell, until tirek, cozy and chrysalis screwed it up!
Am I the only one who’s wondering, wth happened to Prince Blueblood. All we knew about him is that he’s Celestia and Lunas Nephew and then he was never heard from again
@TC 182 or he's only referred to as a nephew because all the Canterlot prince and Princesses who AREN'T Alicorns adopted them into the Royal family when the two took rule of Equestria. After all, there was a unicorn Royal family before the sisters took over, I doubt they just disbursed after that.
@TC 182 Long since dead? Perhaps called a "nephew" but are really many times great grand of one or the other? Hard to say how many spouses Celestia has had over the years.
Melody I looked it up earlier and I think I know how he’s related. When your cousin has a kid, it says it’s not actually called a “second cousin” but actually your niece/nephew, and if they have to be technical it’s your “first cousin once removed” but the title still stands. So maybe one of their cousins had Prince Blueblood.
I always thought that prince blueblood is just the last remaining member of the original unicorn family, and he is a descendant of Princess platinum, and so Celestia adopted him into the current royal family.
@TC 182 well Celestia adopted Cadence as her niece so maybe prince Blueblood was an orphan and she took pity on him and adopted him but that's just a theory
Elias 👀👀 WhAt?! They had/have a brother? It’s not actually official anymore. But, atleast we know the writers were deciding on having another sibling for the sisters-
My personal theory is that they have along lost sibling, perhaps the sibling controlled the stars, maybe the sibling is evil (explains blue blood). He/She could have aided in Nightmare Moons escape as revenge on celestia.
Tony Yu2020-07-25 22:06:07 (edited 2020-07-25 22:08:40 )
Wait, the sisters are over a thousand years old so.... that would make Prince Blueblood compared to his sisters his great great great great great great great great many greats later great aunt??? Wait.... Celestia and Luna had another sister if Prince Blueblood were their nephew :0 Edit: I also wanted to add the way this works is if your sister (if you have one) has children, the male son to you your nephew, same goes for the daughter but called niece.
TC 182 from the research I’ve seen they have a colt who “controls the stars” but I’ve never seen their dad and in the photo they where alicorns at such a young age? other than that this is quite interesting as I’ve watched mlp for 5 years + good luck on your research
What I wonder more than that: how the hell do they have a nephew?! As far as I know there are only two princess sisters, meaning there is no third party. He is referred to as "Celestias nephew" multiple time which would mean that Luna is his mother. But that would also mean the Blueblood, a normal unicorn, would be over thousands od years old. But being a normal unicorn, he probably isn't immortal. Luna has no boyfriend, at least it's not shown and even of she had, Blueblood would either be dead or very very young if you think about the timeline. Luna was in the moon for over a thousand years. Had she gained a sun before Nightmare Moon, he would be dead. Had gained one after the Mane Six defeated her, Blueblood would be to young to participate at the gala.
But at that time (during Luna's banishment at the moon) Celestia was controlling both the sun and the moon. So it would make sense for Celestia to be the one. Maybe she even added the "when four stars meet" thing in the first place, to find the ones who are careful enough to follow the patterns and can actually help Luna. Everyone seemed to forget Luna's existence besides Twilight, it would make a lot of sense for Celestia to trust her and free Nightmare Moon.
You know when you said the tree of harmony used grodon I thought that can’t be true but what if the pony that trapped him (forgets the ponies name) then traveled to the future and trapped him in the tree of harmony with the last of her power so the tree could trap grodon in the tree to the end of time but he might be out of it now because it was destroyed or he is now trapped in the treehouse of harmony
guys, i have a theory. what if starswirl the bearded controlled the stars while in limbo? his name is litterally star-swirl. and even in limbo, his magic could easily control the stars. maybe he knew about celestia missing the long lost memories of her and luna that she blocked out all those years, and wanted to test her leadership... and help her remember the times when she and her sister were friends, and reform luna. or maybe he was testing LUNA.. he could have been testing luna, teaching her to embrace her powers and use them for good and not evil.
Hi Sawtooth Waves Im a huge fan! Yesterday I was bored, so I decided to watch My Little Pony again starting from season one episode one. And while I was watching I saw a little pattern on the book that Twilight was reading, I saw the stars formed a pattern thatl was similar on what Twilight saw. So I watched the whole video and thought again, it might be the stars. But I was not sure yet so I watched your video and thought, maybe Im right or wrong so I decided to comment tit and this is that comment. ( Can I please get a shoutout )
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old channel lol2020-04-03 22:38:35 (edited 2020-04-03 22:46:31 )
What if sense Celestia can see visions the Tree of Harmony showed her a vision of the stars lining up then she saw it her self after ward? Edit:what if "who controls the stars" is Twilight? Her cutie mark is stars, and after The Two Sisters retired she controls the sun and moon (and the sun is a star). And after all Celestia can and has predicted the future and "watched over twilight" the whole time of her journey (Celstias Ballad). Also Fuast might have waited to tweet it after the show to hint it was Twilight (beacuse in the last episode she's the ruler of Equestria). Also Twilight has shown time travel is a thing (just something to think about)
maybe twilight went back in time and aligned the stars the way they were in the first/second and then realized she was the one who set nightmare moon/ luna free, which ment she was the one who controled her destiny from then on, because chain reaction of that happened. that could be the actual thing that happened
Wow I think you guys are right the question is when did Twilight Sparkle's go back in time and about how they all got cuties marks can there be a connection from past present furter and starts from all 3 of those destiny as whole. And the the Tree Of Harmony is possible that the connection of that tree look like star in the center of it and seems be the same one on Twilight cutie mark.
I think you all are right because Twilight knows spells so she could have done it.but at the same time Sunset Shimmer may have done it.but it will make more sense if it was Twilight. so i am with you guys
Maybe when Twilight appeared it caused Nightmare moon’s escape. Her cutie does have a few stars on it. So, maybe she caused the help of her arrival and allowed the gateway to open.
I believe Twilight and her friends meeting for the first time released Luna because Twilight is the link between Celestia and Luna. I mean think about it, her cutie mark is a combination of stars each representing her and her friends. All of the stars come together into the moon maybe because after Twilight finally meet her friends, the prophecy was set for Twilight and her friends to help release Luna from Nightmare moon. Luna was set free from being trapped in the moon because Twilight along with her friends were meant to come together to reform her and to reunite Celestia with Luna once again.
The signs could mean that she saw the Mane Six and knew that it was time to release her sister and let her be reformed. Not neccacarily talking about the stars in the sky.
I think Selectia controlled the stars to realese Night Mare Moon to do so Twilight could be a alicorn in the future, with the help of the tree of harmony
Celestia could have but she would need to prep the place a bit, Nightmare moon was a hazard, she would take away the sun, which brings plant's food to grow and helps create oxygen with trees, also, Nightmare Moon was a cannibal. We aren't sure if those were mere filly tales but um... If it was true, then that means there was a true danger to her being free.
I think that Celestia set nightmare moon free bc she was testing twilight and how strong the power of their friend ships really are. And when celestia banished nightmare moon to the moon she was in charge of the moon and starts sh she could have just moved them and that led to the escape of nightmare moon
Could Twilight have Controlled the stars? By the end of the show she is in control of the sun and moon. Maybe twilight could move stars but didn’t know it? Like, its something she does because she expects it to happen.
Theory; did Nightmare Moon free herself? Even tho Celestia took over her role that did not mean that her all of her powers were magicly gone. She maybe figured out if the stars perfektly alined that the Moon woud free her, but maybe moving the stars takes lot of time
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Miguel Marshall2021-05-23 22:49:59 (edited 2021-05-23 22:57:10 )
What if Celestia did not cause nightmare moon's freedom, what if it was destiny; what if it was supposed to happen according to the prophecy.
Or what if it was Star Swirl, since he was basically there from the beginning, and then he made the prophecy?
I think that The sisters had a long lost sister that helps bring harmony together and give them advice and she did it and told her sister. The reason she isn't a princess is that she is too timid.
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York LE Dork2020-08-06 22:43:34 (edited 2020-09-24 06:53:57 )
This is what I think: The tree of harmony “told” celestia to realece nightmare moon in order to test if the mane six were worthy of the elements of harmony, so celestia knew about everything and staged her disappearance to let the tree do its job, that’s why she randomly popped out of a hallway to congratulate the mane six when they free’d Luna, so mabe the tree actually turned Luna into nightmare moon for this! Star swirl might have a role in this plan because he was responsible for making the tree of harmony as well, and he can control the stars too! Or maybe I am thinking too hard
Apwhad MLP Artsy I think this is incorrect because: ALERT SPOILERS
Starswirl said that “You two have grown so tall” when they saw each other again. So he did not know of Celestia’s and Luna’s size, hinting to Starswirl seeing them during younger years when the two sisters were smaller, so Starswirl was probably sent to limbo before events of Nightmare Moon. The Tree of Harmony was communicating with ponies after School Daze. So it took a few years for those powers to develop. They were most likely powered by the Elements until it was able to function on it’s own from the Mane 6 (Spirits of Harmony). Even though the Elements were still in the tree before the Mane 6, they didn’t have a spiritual connection with anybody. Luna turning into Nightmare Moon was probably proved that it was because of her own envy, not gonna explain just rewatch Friendship is Magic - Part 1. She popped out the hallway because Nightmare Moon had plenty of time on the moon, she might have figured out the banishing spell or at least a disappearing spell. She performed it on Celestia, most likely banishing her to the moon or somewhere like Tartarus.
The tree of harmony didn't even exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode. It became canon years later. Lauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so, for the abovementioned reason), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
@Sammi X VAL I don’t remember her coming out of the sun, but instead walking in on them, but rather way, it seemed like she was waiting for them somehow....
What if since twilight is the new princes and controls the sun, she’d also control the stars since the name is twilight. A explanation for this could be a time travel spell.
Haven't you thought that the two sisters are yin and yan I mean sun and moon are opposites and maybe they just couldn't live with out each other and I know Celestia controls the moon and the sun but is it not strange that there are two sisters and not just Celestia even thoght she controls the moon and sun ?
I think Celestia was the one who orchestrated nightmare moon’s return,because the sun is a star,so Celestia should be the pony that aided the stars in nightmare moon’s escape.
who controls the sun, moon and stars? literally twilight bruh ( she got handed down the role of everything, she originally already had the relation to stars and now she can control the sun and moon )
I have an OC who is the lost 3rd sister of the stars, named Laniakea. The reason the stars don't move is because Laniakea has been missing and forgotten since Discord's reign of terror (long story). However, before she went missing, I have a theory that perhaps Laniakea set the stars to align with the moon (perhaps the Tree of Harmony helped bolster this after her disappearance) because she was really close with Luna and understood the overshadowing Luna felt.
I think that starlight should be an option to controling the stars because on many occasions we have seen her use strong ancient magic after nightmare moons release so it could be possible that she could have done so even if it might not have bin on purpose when she was learning magic.
OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED-
Many of the references say that starlight is going to be an alicorn soon Cough brony notion's mv cough So many be somehow it might be related to her. The fact that she can time travel may be a big part in it.
Like one day star light was trying to figure out one of the olden days spells and something goes wrong. Then she have to travel back in time to fix it or something like that-
I tought of Starlight too! I mean, there IS a star in her cutie mark, and STAR-light glimer, so i don't see why twilight wouldn't ask starlight to help her when starlight becomes an alicorn!
I think there were too sisters who were leader of star ponies and one of them turned evil just like Luna turning to Nightmare , after years the star sister's dark magic freed Nightmare moon.
A theory... Maby TwighlightSparckle and StarLightGlimmer are long lost siblings and they are the protectors/Controlers of the stars, one was sent to a certain place whilst the other was in a different place, and whilst one turned evil the other came to help. Not to mention Twilightlight and Starlight have traveled through time in the shows... then again one doese seem to have more power than the other so Maby one is older? I also remembered that Starlight had a childhood friend, so maby in the pony's past there was a different group of 3? One was the researcher and/or scientist and the other 2 are the holders of the stars. And to be fair, I have a backup... Twighlight(3 Stars on Cutiemark) STARlight(1 star on Cutiemark) SUNburst(No stars but has a sun on his Cutiemark and wears a robe with stars on it. Is also really into books!) (Then again that doesn't explain how there are 2 pony's who like reading and reaserching.) So if you want, debunk my theory. Be my guest... Anywayes, BY! (My hand is hurting, so, BY!)
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Linda C.2020-04-07 21:44:39 (edited 2020-04-08 16:59:09 )
Isn't it obvi it's starlight she literally has the word star in her name I got a theory if sunburst and sunset shimmer might have a connection which lead to starlight glimmer name rhyming with shimmer but then both twilight & starlight has light in it and was secret sisters so sunset shimmer should have taken Calestia throne but didn't so I'm guessing that why sunset stole the crown in the first Equestria girls movie so she get revenge and take what she think was hers but it doesn't explain sunburst since starlight is his friend unless they was from a different dimension but then what if starswirl is a great ancestor that twilight set free from the stone in the past since starswirl is powerful like twilight also twilight does look up to starswirl and read all his books
Your idea is amazing!!maybe starlight glimmer knew about night mare moon and because she was still evil her trying to eliminate everyone(not knowing about the mane six ☺☺
Wait...Starlight Glimmer used her time travel spell to forsee the Mane Six coming together, so SHE set nightmare Moon free, so she could enact her plans of the Cutie Remark!
@Rat BigMac maybe he controls the stars or maybe even the milky way? I personally think that star swirl and starlight glimmer have something in commen either way I think something big will happen.... but also he was in limbo so possibly no but who knows 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
True, but Starlight wasn’t that evil. Her mo was to rid Equestria of cutie marks because of the hurt she went through with Sunburst. And the pony controlling the stars would have had to be seen before in some certain timeline, because I’m sure ponies would like to know who was moving their stars every night. I don’t know who it would be and don’t have a very strong theory, but it could have been Sunset Shimmer, who went to the human world. She could possibly still control the stars even without being there? Honestly I have no idea, but I know that Starlight is not the controller of the stars, but someone a lot more evil.
xWine Tavernx I thought it was Twilight cause her cutie mark is a star starlight glimmer has the cutie mark is a SHOOTING STAR maybe they both control the stars.
What would her reasoning even be? She wouldn't be defeated yet until many seasons later. This happened in episode 1 - 2. She doesn't even know someone named Twilight Sparkle exists yet. She's living a happy and peaceful life over in her village. I doubt that controlling the stars to free Nightmare Moon even crossed her mind
It's barely possible, and way too unlikely and not well-planned for me to believe it. And Starlight is one to think things through instead of rushing in blind and hoping it all works
@Sassy Sem first of all she used a spell by starswirl and starswirl is the one who controls the stars and why everyone wants starlight to be an alicorn I MEAN TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT STARLIGHT IT WOULD BE NONSENSE THAT STARLIGHT COULD BE AN ALICORN AND I HATE THAT SUNSET SHIMMER AND STARLIGHT ARE LIKE THE MAIN CHARACTERS I MEAN ITS NONSENSE TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT THEM
Foust never said it was Celestia, she just said that whoever did, controlled those things. On the Tree of Harmony, there is a star, sun, and moon pattern, so Foust may have been pointing to that being the case.
@Sawtooth Waves well,I don't believe so but he does live in the void(or what I believe is the void)and that would be outside of space and time.Mind you I haven't watched the shows newer seasons or just haven't watched the show in at least five years so I may be a bit behind the times.
The Brony Notion I looked it up-I didn’t get an answer but In one clip he says(talking about his chaos magic) ‘it would give you power over all reality’ and I wouldn’t be surprised if that could extend to time.
We've seen Discord look shocked while getting turned to stone twice now, admit he didn't see it coming when Tirek betrayed him, get caught off guard when Starlight banished him from the school grounds, and fail to predict his plan would be completely derailed in the finale. I think it's pretty obvious by now that he doesn't have Celestia's foresight.
actually he had manipulated time snaps look at s2 discord went back on time with twilight to make her hear the riddle again. so he can control time itself
@Satsujin-Sha The witch KingofWolfs. Its called chaos ville thats where he live -.- and yes I think he can manipulate time, his discord he can "alter the very fabric of reality" hope u know where that quote is from ;) Also another quote from discord "I can do whatever I want whenever I want" he wasnt lying about lol enjoy ur day ^
@TrumpeterJen What if Discord did that on purpose? But yea I believe ur point, but when he *loves* testing people even SPike admits he even tests Starlights leadership in her temporary head mistress role or something, and Discord diddd release sombra and actually made a good choice except the other villains... but it was actually also a good choice he did so, cause look at that! Twilight realized what she needed and nt the harmony! Which was very smart of Discord! ;) Hope u have a nice day! <3
@Bread T04STER-3 If Discord got caught on purpose, he'd have made it clear in the end. He loves nothing more than to brag about having "helped" someone. You can't call Discord's decision to release Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow a good choice just because it happened to work out in the end. He just got lucky. Even then, it could have long-lasting negative effects, like making the different types of ponies distrust each other and potentially weaken their defenses against the Windigos. Also, for as much confidence as the Mane 6 gained from it, the Pillars probably lost a lot. Equestria would have been much shakier overall after that, which could cause problems. Discord has a lot of things, but foresight isn't one of them. Is it obvious I'm not a huge Discord fan? Lol.
@TrumpeterJen but if discord didnt team up with tirek twillight would never found her key to the magic box.So i assume that he knew that if he betray twilight she will trade magic for friends and found sixth key to the box.And what about season nine why would he brought back tireck,crysalis and cozy glow,why didn't he bring back other villians?Because he knew that they will betray him and lost.He knew everything.
@Borislav Vučićević Discord teamed up with Tirek for power. He was just as surprised as everyone else when Twilight still took his side. No foresight there. He didn't know they would betray him. He admitted that himself. As I said above, he got lucky with the way things worked out--and there were other problems that stemmed from his leap of faith, as I've said.
You know how Starlight's name has "Star" In it? And Lauren said "And who controls the Sun,Moon And Stars?" Well Starlight could be the one who controls the stars! Now before you reply "But starlight is a unicorn, not alicorn" I know that but we have seen her magical power's though out the show.Also when Nightmare Moon was finaly set free starlight was still evil. Im not certain but i have a feel that Starlight could control the stars.
i think that it can be a charecter that Laruen Faust made look im gonna explain (also it could be one of their parents)
she may have made a Aunt of Celestia and Luna but it can be one of her parents one of their parents couldve controlled the Stars and the other the Light which leads down to Luna getting her Moon Powers and Celestia getting her Sun ones and the Aunt part let me put it in something that i thought of "One controlls the other Rises who can it be will we ever know can we blame the girl who's a sister to Celestia and Luna's Parents?"
He is the inventor of the timetravel spell. He can do it again. Starlight can made the same "fixes" to a new scroll. -> The Rainbow of Light™ is still Secured, Contained & Protected inside the "chest/box" under the cutiemap [the "powersource" for a stable time_tunnel].
Wait a minute... what if Twighlight sparkle let her out by accident knowing that it's the 1000th year day long thing. Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon, Stars come out AT twightlight, what if Twightlight Sparkle controls the stars but doesn't know?
Important thing to note; J. K. Rowling DIDN'T just tweet Dumbledore being gay into being cannon, the information has always been available that he had a romance with Grindewald on the Pottermore site since it's creation. The reason most people didn't know this was because it wasn't relevant to the original story, and she clarified it for the sake of the newer movie, as it was going to involve parts of their relationship
@Diana Prince I understand that but when the movies were being made apparently they wanted to include a scene where Dumbledore mentioned having a crush on a girl and JK saw it and told them he was gay so she probably always thought of him as that.
Didnt twilight say how stars move overtime? Maybe the reason she got released is because of the passage of time. Then the tree of harmony got them united to defeat nightmare moon when they sensed the stars were aligning.
Celestia was sad to banish her sis so she broght her back she took preparations before setting her free so she taght twilight magic of friendship that defeated nightmare moon alas peace was restored ♥️
You can turn in to Alcorns and unicorns and also you make a good point from Maimoona
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temmie da tem2020-04-04 04:56:49 (edited 2020-04-04 05:15:20 )
Wait a minute, four stars circling toward the moon and unleashing nightmare moon... Isn't there a pony that has a cutie mark representing four stars in a vortex, a powerfull unicorn that taught the princesses how to rise the sun and the moon... Yes I think this is because of Starswirl that nightmare moon was released, not directly because he was trapped on the limbo, but with a vector like the tree of armony he planted it after all. Maybe the tree used starswirl's magic to release nightmare moon. in this case, celestia's visions would have said her to send twilight to ponyville and would come from the tree itself the tree would also have advertised her of the return of her sister. Also I think celestia can only control the sun because of her cutie mark but also, the sun is really close to equestria (like our sun)and asked like six powered unicorns to manipulate it so I think even with her alicorn powers, celestia could not manipulate the sun like the stars (that's not her destiny)
Ps:the starswirl's cutie mark is most certainly the picture on it's book but it's not sure
PPs: I'm not English or American so I did my best to respect the synthax and the ortograph
Kinda stars are far away suns though its odd and in my dream my new mom was luna aka nightmare moon and my original one was killed by someone with grappling fingers and I found out gurwiseka did both murder her and has a dark relic called the death stone witch has both king sombra and the pony of shadow life essences
Youtube ate my first comment :( but I was going to say, I vaguely remember a rumor that they changed Twilight's cutie mark from S1 to the other seasons to show her with 5 stars around the big middle star instead of 4. The 5 represents her friends, but the 4 could've represented the four freeing Nightmare Moon...? Another indicator that maybe this was where they were going is they had considered making Twilight's cutie mark like Moondancer's instead: a bunch of stars around a moon. Third, before they gave the soft retcon to her to make her an alicorn princess of Friendship, I felt like the obvious direction to take her was to put her in control of the stars and star magic, given her name, cutie mark...and now this.
Or, maybe it was actually Moondancer, out of jealousy for losing her friend Twilight or other such stuff! :)
Now if we read the tweet more carefully she says who controls the moon sun and stars but she didn’t really say when they controlled them now I have two theory one gusty the great only trapped the physical part of grogar and that grogar could still control his magic in equestria and he may have freed nightmare or that it was celalstia after all I mean the sun is a star so it is a possibility
I agree with Ajamkid but just in a different way, maybe when the tree on harmony sensed her coming, it thought it was time to see is Twilight Sparkle could wield the element of magic, so it released nightmare moon, I mean the elements of harmony are connected to the tree so when Celestia banished nightmare moon it was kinda the tree who banished her so the tree maybe had SOMETHING just SOMETHING to do with RELESING nightmare moon.
Maybe this is canon, but in the game of My Little Pony it says that "Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, responsible for raising the sun, the moon and the stars, she is also Twilight Sparkle's mentor."
So it really depends on do you trust the game or not
I agree with Sawthooth. The sun is a star. Yes, but it’s also sorta a planet. Believe it or not. In our world it’s a star. But what does Equestrian think about our sun? Let’s say, Sawtooth makes a video about this theory and explain what he thinks about Equestira’s time difference or sun difference. I believe it’s a few hours off and the sun is NOT a star.
I think it’s her parents. Even though they aren’t shown much, dont you think the mom looks a little like the galaxy? Maybe SHE controls the stars. Although I have no evidence to confirm that, don’t you think it would make a lot of sense? They knew it was the right time, and that Luna would be needed in the near future. Any sooner, and the mane 6 wouldn’t be ready to fight. Any later, and they would all be so weak from fighting other villains, there would be no way they could beat nightmare moon on top of everyone else! Just think about that.
@aquatic angel Before Celestia and Luna existed, the unicorns rose and set the moon and sun together, until a powerful pony showed up that was able to control the sun all by herself, that is Celestia. Starswirl then began training Celestia. Not much information was given about Luna or if both of them were alicorns at the first place.
Celestia and Luna have a secret sister Astell starswirl mad her the first alicorn which made her Queen but she turned evil and Celestia banished her to the tapistry
If Celestia did set Nightmare Moon free, she would have a reason since she once argued to Luna and practically admitted she hated being on control with the Sun, Moon, the whole kingdom of Equestria, and Luna, and remember that one episode when she started to sorta tear up when she looked up at the Moon in a story about her being a bit anxious about her sending Twilight to Ponyville? She could have missed Luna so much along with the fact that she hated being on control with almost everything in Equestria that she set Nightmare Moon free.
Celestia must have released nightmare moon to bring Luna back,Because she knew that she couldn’t alone rule Equestria. She also knew that twilight had it to defeat nightmare moon and even tho twilight couldn’t she had no choice. Celestia also shamed discord because she had guilt of even planning this. She wanted to reveal that she planned it. But every pony was to focused so didn’t realise and till the end of th episode they must have forgotten
I think that maybe she cast the spell on Luna so that in a thousand years she could escape overtime she would forget🤷 put when she saw the sign she remembered in that case 💼 Celestia wouldn't be a lair
I always thought the Star will Aid in her Escape was inadvertently Twilight releasing NM by moving to ponyville. Why else would the ‘new ruler’ not show up originally in canterlot the capital?
Would also explain why when finding Twilight she took her under her wing as a student, a unicorn with stars as her mark. I do think it ties into the tree of harmony of course but more primarily Twilight and the element of Magic
First I just thought it was flurry heart's job to control the stars since she is destend to control light but she was born in the future but also maybe she time traveled with the help of twitight sparkle????🤔🤔🤔
So we also know that the sisters parents are Queen Galaxia, creator of the galaxy and the sun, and King Cosmos, creator of the moon and STARS, so what is Celestia and Lunas dad set them free because he thought that Luna had cooled off?
the sun is a star, so theoretically speaking she does controll the stars. then again if celestia controls the day and luna the night doesnt that mean that luna controls the stars, therefore luna herself could theoretically have alined the stars herself. oh and if you read the books youll see that a pony named sandbar(i think i havent read them in a while) controls the tide
Remember the summer sun festival, Luna sets the moon and Celestia rises the sun after the sun twilight made a star, does this mean the book that twilight read was a key to nightmare moon’s escape and twilight read it so it was unlocked? This is just a theory
I’m sure all that happened was the spell depleted like what happened with discord when he got returned back from stone or was that another of celestia ideas
I think that the tree was very involved in it because celestia did use the elements of harmony to banish nightmare moon so who's to say the elements didnt plan for this in advance and give celestia a vision saying her sister would be back
what if Grogar wasnt a tyrant but the spirit of harmony and did everything to bring ponies together, and now is extending its realm over other species.....what if it feeds on harmony
Well, Celestia makes the sun revolve around the earth, and due to Luna's banishment, Celestia had to take responsibility of the moon as well. In our world, ALL stars are stationary, in the mlp universe the sun moves, but it need not be the same for all the stars. The rest of the stars may have stayed in the same place (except for the time the "grogar theory" took place), so no one was really "controlling" the stars, either they were stationary, or...... doing something on their own under no ones control. I mostly believe in the "Grogar theory".
The stars are are symbols of magic and move of their own accord . They are what give the sun and moon princesses their immense powers like Cadence and shining's love.. justahunch!-pinkie pie.
("Spirit of the Tree of Harmony": Not gonna lie, I liked "destiny" a lot better.)
The way I interpret fiction is more narrow than the way you do, which is fine, but let me explain my method. I think you have to balance in-universe and out-of-universe (author's original intentions). This works both ways: maybe at the start, it was supposed to be Celestia who moved those stars, but after nine seasons of implying Celestia was not involved, that nugget of author intentions was never ratified, and like you pointed out, it just doesn't fit. But the other side of the coin is that if a concept did not exist IRL when the piece of fiction was created, the only way to retcon/reinterpret the older section with the new concept is to state it explicitly. Or, from an in-universe perspective: just as it's unlikely Celestia did it based on the fact that she never says she did, it's also unlikely the Tree did it, because there isn't a great case that the Tree was the successor to the role "destiny" played in the early seasons. And even after the Tree was introduced, they still appealed to destiny/Mag.of.Fdshp. to explain how the Mane 6 all were connected. Further, the Tree has little to no role in the final event of the show. I'd say it's the nebulous "Magic of Friendship" thing that did it. That's the Deus ex Machina for this show, up until the very last fight.
Well the only pony who controls the stars is luna cause it's mentioned in the journal of the 2 sisters but the one who taught luna was star swirl so I'm not so sure
My understanding is that it had to be Celestia who did it, since Stars are celestial bodies...she may have released her own sister on purpose to test Twilight Sparkle, that was the whole point why she was sent to Ponyville to "make friends"....
Wait wait wait. Who controls the stars? I may have a theory. Just like Celestia and Luna control the sun and moon, what about twilight? Yes, I know this may be a little drastic, though. "Twilight" Sparkle? It just makes some sense, since her cutiemark is also a resemblance of the stars, as well as magic.
“Oh dear princess celestia! We are so happy the nightmare was conquered! Tell us, princess, will the beast ever return?!” “Uhh.. yeah...” “When?!” “Well uhmmmm... lets just say...in 1000 years...?... Im going to have to keep track of this aren’t I :/....”
Okay, Celestia controls the sun, and the stars released Luna.. or shall I say Nightmare moon, and what is the sun..?? A star! So Celestia must've tried to keep Nightmare moon on the moon, but the 1000 years of banishment must of worn off and used power to bring her back, it was 4 stars, I think the 4 starts resemble: The pegaside, the earth ponies, the unicorns and the alicorns. For such powerful magic it must've need everyone magic. And that's how I think Nightmare moon was brought back.
1. Starswirl was in limbo, time doesn’t pass there. There’s no way he would’ve been able to set any spell if time didnt even pass 2. Starswirl said “you’ve grown so tall!” To princess Celestia and Luna, meaning they were somewhat small and young before he was trapped in Limbo, probably before the events of Nightmare Moon 3. No, not just pecause they have star in the name does it mean they raise the stars. Yes Starswirl used to raise the moon and sun and maybe stars, but with Luna and Celestia he has no reason to keep doing so. We don’t even know if the stars are a thing that can be raised in this universe.
Its starswirl before celestia and luna were the rulers of equestria starswirl and the pillars raised the sun and the moon and starswirl can control the stars cause its in his name
@•Dweeb• not just because it’s in his name does it mean he can control them. We never had confirmation from the show that he can control them and there’s no evidence for it, just the name. Plus, he was in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so there’s no way he could’ve controlled them at that time
The spell would only last 1000 years celestea used or maybe the tree of harmony releast nightmare moon and told celestea that the tree will be releasing her to test if twilight and her friends were worthy of the elements of harmony and to protect equestria
Well at the start it had already said that on the day of a thousand years the stars will aid in her escape so I think that someone already knew and had spread that news but was forgotten later but celestia vanished Luna so only celestia knows so I say celestia knew about what will happen with twilight and the others so she let nightmare moon escape
Does this make sense? So they said "Who controls the stars?" right? Well, what is the sun? Think abt it. The sun is a STAR so the title is TRUE- Like if it makes sense :3
I disagree on 4:34 You said Celestia didn't control the stars but I may think that's incorrect. Based on the scene you gave us when celestia moved the sun, the stars disappear when she lifted it. This causes the stars to disappear based on the light that reaches from their star. She controls the stars but in a very easy way; she makes them invisible. What Lauren Faust said is actually correct. I think you just looked at it from a wrong perspective.
Celestia couldn't have released luna because u see in the last episode of season 5 luna was free even though celestia didn't find a pony that reflected the element of magic
Well...My sister did say “I saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return,” and...I just wanna say thank you to my sister for releasing me...um...My evil counterpart. The moon was getting a little boring
Princess Luna Does Princess Twilight Sparkle have a crush on Flash Sentry the Pony Guard from the Crystal Empire? Does Spike still like Rarity? Do Fluttershy and Discord like each other although they are unaware they like one another?
ashley spitzer I think I can only answer number 3! When Angel was pretending to be flutter shy he said I wanna marry discord! And remember the entire MLP fandom realized that the ship was true and were all freaking out! (Including me) and remember they were together in the last episode!
Well I have 3 days left until my 21st birthday arrives and also. *Bows to you It’s such an honor to see you, your majesty and haven’t you ever heard of the legend of the seventh element of harmony?
@Princess Celestia Hello there , your majesty. *bows to you too But if you don’t mind me asking but, what would my scent of Cherries and fruit would do to you if you caught my scent and so would your sister?
@Nightmare Excuse me please, I live there on that planet! But if you even think about going to my planet aka Earth... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5irMZy0oY You’re not going to like what happens next.
I think Celestia actually freed Nightmare Moon because the four stars represented love, Moon, sun, friendship so I think Celestia freed her when she thought twilight sparkle was ready and she got back on her hooves, but maybe also the tree of harmony, maybe the tree of harmony used celestias magic to free Nightmare Moon and also the stars came from the ground so MAYBE???
It's the tree of harmony. There really isn't any debate possible on this one. The tree has shown time and time again that it has the ability to control destiny, even when time travel is involved. As long as the end result is more harmony, the tree will pretty much do or at least predict anything. Even going so far as to predict the actions of Discord, the god of chaos. It is pretty much a guarantee that the tree is completely responsible for this. Especially when considering that there are more symbols on the tree than just the elements. Do I need to remind anyone what symbols are below the centre star on the tree? The sun and the moon.
The legend narrated in the first episode tells that Celestia raises the sun, and that she had raised the moon and stars in her sister's absence. A display of Celestia raising the sun is depicted in The Cutie Mark Chronicles, and the sunrise coincides with Princess Celestia's return in Friendship is Magic part 2
Remember that episode with Rockhoof in season 8? When they crashed into that rock, Twilight said that over time the stars do move .That is why Rockhoof miscalculated because the stars were in a different place 1000 years ago. Even if that's not how fast or slow stars move in OUR world (I'm no expert,I really don't know),this is Equestria; science and magic work differently.Maybe they are even moved by something or someone(perhaps the Tree itself). That supports your theory that it was the Tree who freed Nightmare Moon. Do you think this is plausible or was what Bookhorse said inaccurate?
Sawtooth I think your forgetting something……………..the tweet said sun, moon and stars………………..and the sun is a star, so with little doubt it could be Celestia
Not celestia… here’s my proof… starlight… when she went back in time and stopped the rainboom twilight wouldn’t have gotten on celestial radar so celestial wouldn’t have set her free if no one could stop her
I think that Grogar did release Luna, sacrificing himself instead of her. I think he had the power to release himself, but helped release Luna, thinking she had a better chance to take over Equestria. Luna might also control the stars, so as Nightmare Moon she could free him for extra help with ruling Equestria later on.
Starters is just like the sun so doesn’t Celestia control the stars?
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Raw Explorer2020-04-03 23:11:21 (edited 2020-04-03 23:12:00 )
Hmm I think that a similar thing like with Discord happened - Discord’s spell was broken once the princesses lost connection to the elements. Here, the banishment spell lasted 1000 years in a means that Celestia couldnt have used her Magic to bring Nightmare Moon back - otherwise she would have brought her back sooner and reform her herself but all the references in the show suggest that she couldnt. Now at the time of the end of the 1000 years period Celestia already had Twilight as a student and knew about her future friends and since she obviously had princessy plans for Twilight from early on she figured out that perhaps it would be better if Twilight learned to use the elements instead of just reforming Nightmare Moon herself. Now with the stars... Celestia does not control the stars directly but has access to the star realm seen in the Magical Mystery Cure episode where Twilight becomes an alicorn. When Twilight is turned into an alicorn a bright star appears in the sky. For that reason I think that Celestia was the one who released Nightmare Moon. She said she ‘saw the signs’ but those signs were actually those 1000 years that passed which meant she could use her Magic to break the spell. So she sent Twilight to Ponyville and then entered the star realm to use her spell to free Nightmare Moon at the right moment (which appeared on the sky like a bunch of stars freeing her) and stayed in the realm watching over Twilight. When the mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon Celestia raised the sun and returned from the star realm.
Twilight did. And here is why; Twilight has the same cutie as the stars that surround the moon. However; I believe Luna was trapped inside of Nightmare Moon, and Nightmare Moon was trapped in the moon. And she didn’t say that she saw the signs of Nightmare Moon’s return, but rather her sister Luna’s return. Twilight’s cutie mark has stars in it, not only that; Twilight Sparkle and her friends facilitated the return of Luna be redeeming Nightmare Moon and freeing Luna from the darkness and evil within her that made her Nightmare Moon in the first place.
I dont think anyone noticed this but I rewatched the episode and the second twilight arrived theres a little easter egg, the same stars were on big macs cutie mark for a second
I think the tree of Harmony did it because they knew that the main six was at their time was like really strong and like I think the tree might have told Celestia to send Twilight to Ponyville to stop stop the madness
Many fans say that Luna controls the stars as well, due to her personality being more associated with the arts, and her night often referred to as "beautiful", which would be strange if stars were not involved at all. But many also say that Celestia didn't really touch them all that much during her sole rule, either from a lack of power (she had to handle both celestial bodies) or a lack of artistic talent. So she could be still able to control the stars without deciding to do so for thousands of years.
I still agree that the Tree instigated everything and used Celestia, and is likely the source of her visions in the first place, if you think about it.
I just had a thought. We don't know if the pony world is a planet or a flat disc, but if it were a planet like ours, when Celestia moved the sun she would move it to the other side of the planet (assuming the sun and moon move around the planet), the moon would replace it. They wouldn't be moving in a constant orbit otherwise Celestia wouldn't need to do anything, or she would be using her magic all the time, but she doesn't. This means that she literally moves it from one side to the other, so there are two quarters of the planet in between where it is always twilight (with very brief nights and days when the moon and sun is moved across them, but moving the moon and sun is seen to only take a couple of minutes). I think this 'twilight zone' could be some kind of wasteland, since there are also no ponies to control the weather or the seasons. Or it could be more like the everfree forest, where it controls the seasons and weather itself.
I think it was a tree and Celestia because Celestia controls the sun and the stars are the sun so she can control with the tree it’s alive as we all know that we saw in season eight so the tree probably was talking she has visions so she probably saw the six and the tree and Sebastian planned out reform 😏
Hang on a minute, queen Galaxia is luna and celestia’s mother right? Queen galaxia probably controls the stars . It would make sense for her own mothe to release her
Holy ravioli i just noticed: lauren said to watch the episode again and i did……and the way the stars were arranged were EXACTLY like the stars on……………………………………..STAR SWIRL’S CUTIE MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When it is night then it is dark then we can see the stars
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Christina Clair2020-11-18 18:31:35 (edited 2020-11-18 18:32:42 )
Uk what i wanna know? 🤔Who the heck controlled all the celestial bodies ...raised the sun and moon before gregor came ..before the unicorn grp ? When their were just farms and pastures....since i am pretty sure the farms are gonna need the light cycles to grow...and the inhabitants to exist for that matter..😂
Unless.. A young pony had earned her cutie mark by moving those stars..what if that pony knew about nightmare moon? Dont forget twilight had a book that spoke about the details of nightmare moon so..that doesn't mean another pony couldnt have had a book either, maybe there is secretly a pony that can control stars positioned around the moon think about it if the princess said “I saw the signs of her return” She may have seen the stars move herself it makes me belive that some pony actually set nightmare moon free maybe by accident thinking she may had been turned back to her original princess luna form. Now maybe another pony also knew about the tree of harmony..or had a vision of what they need to do maybe they had a vision of the stars moving and MAYBE princess luna telling her to move the stars and set her free. Dont forget that not all of nightmare moons magic was banished to the moon with her, some pony may had earned there cutie mark by releasing her but they may have had no idea of nightmare moons return themselves. This was just a thought I had I cant remember exactly seeing any ponys with stars as there cutie marks but maybe they was 4 ponys that moved each star and got their cutie marks..
i think both of the sisters set luna free. hear me out. luna would have control of the star and moon. there both night things so i imagine it. and celestia controls the sun. she probably saw a vision of luna being free and maybe luna did to. so i sugget they worked together. thats why luna was suprised. she didnt know that she was helping.
Okay season 7 ep 1 celestial advice- I fully support the theory that celestia used twilight to harness the elements and free her sister from the moon and conform her back to good. 5 minutes and 30s from the end of the show Celestia is talking about how she’s trying to get young twilight to talk and make friends- without having to send her away. Knowing that’s something twilight could easily avoid- she looked to the nightmare” moon and sighs saying how she must send her away. - fully support this theory that this was an orchestrated plan
I have a little theory: The sun is a star too, so maybe Celestia can control stars. Maybe she helped Nightmare Moon with the stars to escape somehow, and Nightmare Moon set herself free. I mean, if you were banished to the moon, you would try to escape too, right? So Celestia couldve just helped Nightmare Moon to escape while Nightmare Moon somehow got herself free by her own Magic. Now to the line: "I saw the signs of Nightmare Moons return" i think with "signs" she meant signs that it worked. She could've seen those stars come closer to the moon or something, after she did some sort of spell.
Mabye the banishing spell doesn't reverse until a thousand years Think about it: when the pillers where banished to limbo they where gone for a thousand years until the mane 7 freed them
maybe before the tree controlled the sun moon and stars or its celestia cause sun is a star i guess.or it could be star swirll because before clestia and luna ruled star swrill took care of the things.
What if the celestial from the human world came saw the moon with a pony in it tried to protect herself by using magic but because she can't handle it she accidentally released nightmare moon because she is principle of da school so controlls Luna kind of (moon) and obviously the sun. One of the students could be a star controller as well like maybe is very interested in them so in the pony word they make a vanishing spell for day and make them come back at night!
PLEASE READ!!!! Maybe there was a third sister of the stars, keeping them in place who was younger, or even Luna making sure the stars were in place. You may try to argue that if there was a third sister of the stars, why havent we heard of her? And what about Celestia and Luna's past? Well in my book, the journal of the two sisters,(its also included in the first time the main six visited the castle of the two sisters when twilight finds the secret room and sees a book called the journal of the two sisters) it gives some info about what happend before the started ruling, plus it mentions that they knew star swirl when they were young alicorns. Even before they got there cutie marks! And if they did come from some where else, and were born alicorns, it makes sense. when Celestia said the birth of an alicorn was some thing Equestria had never seen, and luna saying that it is beyond there understanding, it probably means that they wouldnt expect to see an Equestrian pony give birth to an alicorn. Even though Rarity said she thought alicorn wings had to be earned by a princess worthy deed, (AKA creating new magic) there is no way the royal sisters' backstory or past is commonly known. Sorry its so long, i had alot to say. Please reply telling if you agree or disagree and why.
I think nightmaremoon release herself because in session 5 remark nightmare was still got out and in the episode the royal problem Luna said" I have your magic and your magic is useless in the dream world" so maybe her magic is useless on the stars too!
I'm seeing a lot of people say "The Sun is a star, so she can control the stars too" But that's true for our world. Perhaps the stars are totally different in the MLP world. As for who controls them, I'm still subscribed to the Grogar Theory because it still makes sense. Idk.
What if, what if it was twilight, the tree did take form of twilight when leading the other students in season 8 or 9. And Twlight knows alot about the stars but she probably didnt do it intentionally
I heard that celestia and lunas father controlled the stars and the moon before Luna did, but that wouldn’t make sense because Luna controlled the moon after he did and didn’t control the stars...
Now, I know that Luna doesn't control the Sun. But her cutie mark tells us she controls the moon and stars... She can move both the moon AND the STARS... Maybe, she set herself free
Do you remember that thing about how discord was created as a counteract to harmony well if this theory is true and the spirit of harmony did set nightmare moon free then wouldn’t that cause at least a little chaos 🤷♀️🤔
I think grogar are realeased nightmare moon. Because he sent cozy,sombra,and chrysalis to attack equestria. I think grogar wanted to do the same with nightmare moon.
if u see the tree of harmony theres sun moon and star in middle does twilight or starlight can control stars if there will be season 10 so it means yes
Nope it was another alicorn who... well it was starlight with time travel. She is going to be an alicorn. I know from a rip in the space time continuem. She uses time travel in the future when she was trying to mess up the main six, this attempt changed nothing. But obviously Starlight as an alicorn controls stars. She help nightmare moon escape. This is what happened
Unless this is some sort of next-level typo, could Luna possibly have (somehow) released herself? Considering both the 'Sun and moon and stars' were mentioned, Wouldn't Luna have control over the stars? During the series, Celestia and Luna a strictly bound to raising/lowering the sun/moon for their specific part of day. Of course, Celestia had to either assume the role of raising/lowering the moon while Luna was imprisoned, or maybe she'd (Luna) been doing it herself? Also, bonus; If I remember correctly, In 'A Royal Problem, Celestia seems blatantly unaware of Luna'd duties as if she'd never assumed her roles before?? Ignore this I guess lmao)
And I saw a few comments mentioning that the sun is a star, but this is Equestria we're talking about; The sun might not even classify as a star because logic doesn't exist??
Did you think the case of Luna , same parts similar stygian ? Stygian seems have able to communicate and think even make a move inside pony of shadow , so maybe Luna still have abilities to do something during nightmare moon And that's how I consider about it.
Quantum Production Studios omg I just thought of something. What if Nightmare Moon got help from Celestia on the thousandth year too get out of the moon?!
Maybe the tree of harmony controls the stars the pony's the used to rise The sun and moon maid the tree of harmony maybe they made it to rise the stars star swirl maybe had the idea his name is"star" swirl maybe just a suggestion what do you
You came oh my God people keep missing details in the story of Celestia it says when she banished her sister to the Moon she became the bear of the moon and sun which means she controlled night and day if she controls night it means she controls the Stars
I think it is starlight glimmer who set night mare moon (princes luna) free because her name starts with starlight. Sure she came out in a different season but I think its her who let night mare moon (princes luna) free
Every time the sun goes up in my little pony the stars go away I think no one really knows who controls the stars but when The moon goes up The stars comes!
Before luna got banished she controlled the moon and stars. After she was banished Celestia took all of lunas duties which means she also controlled the stars. So YOU'RE the false one!
I have an answer to that! And drumroll please.... Astra! AKA my OC. Yeah Ik Ik she's not ACTUALLY in the show, but she's the lost sister of Celestia and Luna who's job is to move the stars around. She's from the alicorn civilization (as which you theorized in another video) and she looks a lot like her mother but in black and purple, close to Luna but not quite bc she's not just this blueish black, she is PITCH black with a purple fade on her horn, legs, wings and mane and tail. She with-holds a lot of power in order to move billions of stars. In equestria, it's shown that the sun is about the same size as the moon, compare that to every star we can see on the sky and Astra looks like a Goddess compared to the princesses. Why so overboard? You may ask, I mean she's not just a side character, she plays a huge role, even though she's just an OC, well, if I'm gonna have an original character that I can make however I want, I'd rather go big or go home!
I think Nightmare Moon control the star to escape but I am not sure yet but I think the sun control the star to unleash Nightmare Moon so I predict that Nightmare Moon found magic so if twilight accidentally unleash Nightmare Moon because twilight cutie mark is a pink star and her cutie mark is like the star at night time . People might ask why do you comment this because I think this is the problem for the video that Sawtooth Waves is doing.
If I’m being honest I think it was STARlight glimmer or STARswirl. We know that starlight holds a lot of unicorn power and Starswirl has stars all over him (just a theory tho)
Wait I have 2 theories its either star swirld (unlikely) or Daybreaker (Likely) I choose daybreaker more since she is also a VILLIAN aka evil celestia she can also control the sun but you may ask "But what about the stars??" Well heres what I think Day = Light = Heat = Heated Gases = Stars but celestia wouldnt really set a villian but a villian would free another villan now back to the stars daybreaker never appeared on the show but she could have been banished WAYYY before if there was a place where the sisters came from there is a possibility daybreaker was banished there instead but daybreaker would want to set night mare moon free since probably making an apperence wouldnt really make much sense since if she went all the ponies wouldnt know her or if she was a villian at first but she probably just set night mare moon to do it since she wasnt banished to the moon so somehow they would meet and get along then thats when the plan comes she will control the stars and set night mare moon free as she will do most of the work and free her after but WHAT HAPPENED? She got reformed and daybreaker was stuck there as for when miss I WANT ALL THE CUTIE MARKS OF MY TOWN dreamt about her in the night realm as she more of a evil celestia she would be able to move stars so THATS BASICLY AN ANSWER
Twilight accidentally released her Twilight released Nightmare Moon she did not realize that she accidentally used her magic remember when Twilight took over the Royal sister's place and they fused there crowns and what is the Sun a star and when do you See Stars the night and what is also present in the night the Moon Twilight controlled the Stars accidentally she had the power to but that was only a little so she could only move 4 stars what happens after she takes over the sister's place she can move the Stars perhaps helping the Dream Team which you have theorized about before
I think "who controls the sun moon and stars" We know celestia controls the sun luna controls the moon right? no other princess we have seen has controlled a natural time BUT there are 5 "known" princesses in Equestria known there might be other princesses that we have not seen so maybe the princess of the stars "we've never seen" could have bailed nightmare moon out you guys might say that there can only be 5 princesses because celestia and luna said that but there might be other alicorn princesses that they have not heard of just like the tale in the episode "hearts and hooves day" the CMC's tried to get Big mac and there teacher together but then they found a love potion and gave it to their teacher and big mac but then the found out it was a love poison because they got all goo-goo on each other. there was a prince that had a crush on a princess and gave her a love potion, but it was a love poison the princess in that story was an alicorn this proves that there are other alicorns beside the 5 so maybe there is a princess of the stars that we haven't seen in the show that bailed nightmare moon out you guys might be like Jax if we haven't seen them in the show it means they don't exist guys just because we haven't seen them in the show doesn't mean they don't exist take gro gar for an example we saw he was discord we haven't seen the real gro gar in the show but he certainly exists in the world of friendship is magic so i like my theory but i like your theory the brony notion
Theory:Midnight moon was a normal alicorn she wanted to be a queen she followed every step she controlled the stars When Luna found out she banned midnight moon from the castle she went to cadence's castle cadence said no she went to the moon to go see the stars but.. When she went there she got sucked into the moon no one saw her again except s1 e1 no one talked about her it was like she wasn't here in equistia anymore then the moon faded then that spot on the moon was made she was trapped over thirty years and more and when she got kicked out she was a young pony Celestia told every pony to keep it a secret expect to tell the main six.. Well that's my theory bye every pony and every human!
I have a theory of what may have happened its a stretch and kind if out there but it could be possible
Luna helped nightmare Moon escape
The Shadow pony may have existed before Nightmare Moon did, instead of Nightmare moon creating the Shadow pony by remnants of her dark magic what if the dark magic created Nightmare Moon.
Maybe the Shadow Pony just needed a willing host and since Luna wanted revenge on Celestia she indirectly became a willing host for the shadow pony. The two if them stayed separated beings, the Shadow Pony only needing control over a physical body and when it got it Luna was held captive like The Pony of Shadows and Stygian.
When the elements of Harmony banished her to the moon some of the Shadow Pony detached and remained in equestria. Which is why the second time the Elements were used Luna was able to be freed. Unlike the first time when the Shadow Pony was still a fully in control of her the redemption wouldn't have worked. The spell was too strong for Luna or the Shadow Pony to break but I the 1000th year is when the spell finally weakened enough for Luna, the princess of the night as She told Scootaloo, who controlled the Moon and as the princess of the night the stars too, to help herself escape.
Also when the elements removed the darkness it wouldn't remove the past trauma and anger that caused Luna to give in to begin with. Removing the darkness won't make someone happy again with Stygian he had to be convinced to finally move on and forgive before he was saved. Over the years Luna had time to think and see the damage that giving into hate caused which is why when she was finally free of the Shadow Pony she was willing to work alongside her sister again, but when she first returned the darkness of the Shadow Pony still had control over her until the Elements of Harmony was able to seperate it from Luna
I bet Celestia was laughing hard when she saw every pony be terefide when Nightmare moon said;: The night will last forever! Hahahahaha! And Celestia is like: not under Twilight's hooves!😀😎
Tbh I think that she wanted to take a test of mane 6 and twilight passed it see the season 9 again that princesses retired she said the whole life was a test of you
I THINK IT'S STAR SWIRL!!!!! HE'S THE ONE WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WOULD TURN OUT GOOD!!! and think about it the one who controls the STARS. STAR swirl! Only me?? Really.
May I say that yea there is no pony that controls stars Equestrian is a mysterious land but still Celestia could have did this to free Luna we know she missed her also I feel bad for the pony’s in the past because when Luna was in the moon who gave pony’s good dreams
Who controls the Stars? No one. So the answer is no one. No one helped her escape. The alignment of the Stars gave her the power to escape. It’s that simple.
Not all that glitters is gold. Not all that twinkles are stars.
Consider. Magic and Space have always intertwined. From the most powerful unicorns having stellar names, to magic itself representing itself as both aura and sparkles.
When Nightmare Moon was imprisoned, she became a literal feature on the moon. All the extra mass and magic has to go somewhere. Perhaps, as "stars" that surrounded the moon? Or perhaps, those "stars" were merely magic gathered over a thousand years, in order to pull herself out of her "imprisonment".
Perhaps, this is a case of Nightmare Moon literally pulling herself together again.
(Blasts of powerful magic against Darkness based beings, in show, have this habit of blasting them into pieces. The "lunar sea" that was Nightmare Moon was both her portrait, prison and her impact zone. Kinda of a dark and yet humorous image)
(... this could also mean that she was still "fragmented" on her return. Definitely not powerful enough to take Equestria, like in Starlight's timeline (yet), which is probably why she fled instead of outright invaded. (Also indicated by "low power" (Season 1) Luna, post EoH.) Luna's rescue could be a blunt force version of how Stygian was saved. If she had been at full power, it probably wouldve ended in another impact zone, and another thousand years)
hmm well if i had to guess i would say twilight even though her whole thing is friendship her cutie mark is a star, could she maybe have triggered it accidentally?
Probably not. My theory is that as soon as Luna/Nightmare Moon was sent to the moon, a 1000 year timer started and the stars would move little by little every year, until she was finally freed. So it’s still sorta Celestia who did it because she sent her up there and when she was sent up there she accidentally started a timer, which was the stars getting closer and closer.
Sawtooth I think both groagar and celestia released nightmare moon think of it celestia moved the stars and groagar did the nessesary magic to release her and probaly celestia knew groagar was up there
What if Celestia and Luna had another sibling that controlled the stars. And maybe Celestia made a deal with that sibling and that Luna would be released when the time comes.
crazy theory but i think celestia controls the star bc the sun is a star so it means all the stars are controlled by celestia the only problem is celestias cutie mark is just the sun so how can she control the stars i think its bc she has the power to raised the sun and the moon so it give her a chance to raised the stars too its in between.
What if groagar did her escape? Celestia banished her and she woundnt let her go. Groagar escaped first and then released nightmare moon. It could be like that. The stars, they are the trap to groagar. He found a way to escape and released her.
maybe luna controlled the star ok so she waits a thousand years because she didnt have that much power yet sa i think she waited a thousand years to gain enough power and controlled the stars so that she can escape but i think she can only use it once so ye i dont think its celestia
But what if Celestia and Luna have a younger sister that controls the stars. Maybe she was not sent from the Alicorn civilisation to restore peace between the three tribes because she was too young. Celestia and Luna might have forgotten all about her. When Celestia was still the only ruler her younger sister must have herd about this. So when the legend said the stars would free her she used her magic to free her and new that a new ruler would step up and her two sisters would come back to the Alicorn civilisation.
Since the creator of mlp did tweet there are no toilets and they poop on the ground it can be already be proven wrong because I remember at sweet apple acres The Episode called The Perfect Pear Granny Smith Goes into an out house
Maybe celestia released night mare moon because she thought that twilight and the mane six would succeed and she was right and I think celestia may new that twilight would be alive the time when night Mare moon would be released
(DISCLAIMER): This is quite literally an essay on my theory! (Like 5-6 paragraphs). Be prepared for a long read!
I'm finding quite a few things that contradict your theory from watching the show alone. (Sorry i've been doing this lately).
So to get started, you state that a response from the creator hinting at Celestia may or may not be true. This is a valid thought since it can and has been done before, but what if there is something deeper going on in this situation? But before I go deeper than that, I also wanted to state that you said the Tree Of Harmony set her free? Well, I can see why you think that and it is a pretty good theory, but there are multiple problems and variables that contradict that theory as well. For example, much later in the series when the school of friendship is made and the group of misfit "elements" meets the tree of harmony, it specifically states that "my power grows stronger over time" and that it "now has the ability to do this". Now this made me wonder: If the tree of harmony wasn't that powerful before, how could it possibly be powerful enough to release the banishment of a pony on its own, especially since the elements weren't directly powering the tree since Celestia and Luna took them all those years ago?? It just seems pretty farfetched to me and honestly hard to believe. However, I do think it had some influence. Now to the whole "not moving stars" thing, Celestia may have simply chose not to! From what I heard, the stars DO move on their own (quoted from the hippogryphs voyage) and that can be linked to physics like our world! However, this doesn't mean we can just count Celestia out too! In fact, the stars may be easier for Celestia to move with them actually being as small as depicted in the show like how most cartoonists use those physics! Now going on to my actual theory.
I think Celestia DID bring Nightmare Moon back, but not on purpose. I believe, just like discords banishment, there is a set amount of years that banishment can be upheld before it is interrupted. I believe with Celestia's long line of experience with the Elements, she knew that was true! She would still have reason to grieve over the loss of her sister for a thousand years but even then, when Luna comes back, Celestia is not surprised by the fact that her sister is no longer Nightmare Moon! This means that Celestia definitely had planning behind this and, as you said, it was indeed "safe" or at least a high chance of success! I think the key to releasing Luna does fall on the elements, though. I think it relies on triggers because, when discord escaped, Celestia said: "I believe that, since the elements are now tied to you, the banishment spell I once put on him is no longer in effect." But, wait... If they are connected to the elements right at the start, why is discord escaping just then? That's where my trigger theory comes in. I think that Twilight meeting her friends at that exact moment in time, as depicted and brought on by Celestia, produced a trigger that allowed Lunas escape on the 1000th year. Of course, this could be completely wrong and the stars were just moving slowly over time but that would contradict what the creator said and discords release from his banishment!
So from a set perspective on the three key moments that I believe caused a chained reaction letting luna escape, you have to look further into the power of the elements themselves. So, Celestia's Banishment has a time limit, the banishment is released upon triggering, but the 3rd key is the elements of harmony themselves. Being forged from the Tree Of Harmony, almost like a super battery, saved Equestria on its own a thousand times and was "programmed" by the Pillars to represent certain elements! This further proves my trigger theory that them coming together created a link between them and the Elements Of Harmony and thus creating a chain reaction. This was also more related to Celestia's and Luna's conflict themselves as they did not represent the Elements Of Harmony on their own over time! This prompted the Tree Of Harmony to seek a new magic source for the elements which, when it did, caused an extreme burst of power (shown at the end of the 2nd show season 1 when they embraced their elements), but that doesn't mean their link started there! Many chain reactions are caused accidentally throughout the series such as Rainbow Dashes rainboom causes them to find their special talents and link them in the long term! But the elements didn't link to them until they found each other! I think it was similar to Luna's release but the beginning starting with Luna's banishment. Just like Discord release was a shred of chaos after they linked together.
In conclusion, I think there are 3 very key aspects in forcibly releasing a pony from banishment: 1) A background behind the banishment. 2) An immense amount of power (specifically from the elements.) 3) The Mane 6's friendship. However, we do come to an impasse at some point. This is because when Twilight travels back in time, Nightmare moon was able to come back without their friendship! This doesn't mean that she came back on the 1000th year without a trigger, though. I think Nightmare Moons escape failed at first since when they travel back in time, Nightmare Moon says: " My sister has been imprisoned in the moon for years!" Now, why do you guys think that came to pass? Well, nightmare moon didn't transform back so no friendship magic was involved most likely. In the best-case scenario, like what Twilight did to bring the Pillars back to Equestria and to banish the Pony Of Shadows, powerful magic was used to bring her back! This most likely means Celestia was involved. After Twilight failed to meet her friends, Celestia was left to deal with things on her own which probably took longer than what came to pass back when Nightmare moon came back! This is because when they travel back in time, Nightmare Moon lives in the Castle Of The Two Sisters instead of in Canterlot with a whole new Castle! This most likely represents a more recent defeat of Celestia, especially since none of the other mane 6 are under her command which I believe she would recognize at the other elements which I believe she would still discover on her own!
So Nightmare Moon does eventually escape but in terms of my theory, it was most likely Celestia (with the help of powerful magic) or a trigger that went off that was set like an alarm clock for 1000 years! This would explain so much about Celestia's behavior on that day telling Twilight, "You simply must stop reading those dusty old books!" Even though it is what Twilight has always taken pride in and expected Celestia to do the same! So what was different for that day? Even Twilight didn't know! I think Celestia did, though, having that contribute to her decision to send Twilight away. I rest my case. (Of course I can always be wrong but we'll leave that up to the avid readers. :))
Wow, you must have a lot of dedication to this series, I admire that. Also after reading through all of it I understand your points and agree with you.
Think I know if she controls the Sun and the sun's a star doesn't that mean she can control both and celestia's just keeping a secret from Twilight and everybody else do what theory this is actually huge
Dear sawtooth, I am a good friend of Luna, she often visits my galaxy home and is a friend to the wolves who live there. I have recently heard about her bansishment and her reform, and I can explain it. When the spell wears of, it sends a sort of signal if you will, to the stars around it telling them to release her, why not the spell itself? It’s too weak. Remember it just worn off so it’s natural that it would sent a sort of s.o.s to the stars. It couldn’t use celestia because she isn’t the one wielding the Elements so in the gap between twilight making friends and her defeat the stars do their bit. I hope that explains it,
Galactia blast. Ps: don’t click read more!
Oh, you clicked it? What did I tell you? Like if your a galaxy wolf too 😉
;) nope! the answer IS CELESTIA. Because when she was gone, she raised the moon AND sun. while, she raised the stars because the sun is a star. and also when the moon comes up, we see stars. so It was her who set her sister free. u can look up on google if u want ;)
I feel like a changeling was transforming into Luna because this changeling has known Luna since the day it was born because for a long time ago this changeling has heard a lot of the stories of princess Luna turns into nightmare moon so that’s what I think
starlight is part of twilight's family so they all have star cutie marks so let me tell you the story about starlight starlight is twilight's sister she did something unforgivable so her pearants put a memory spell on twilight so she could forget starlight.
In my little pony magic princess games, descripiton of characters princess celestia is "princess celestia is the ruler of equestria. Responsible for raising the sun, moon and the stars"😌
Where did queen novo actually get the pearl that helped her kingdom change species so they could hide from the storm king I’m so confused and I hope you can help me understand
It must be rarity she was the first one to know that celestial was gone she must have been mad at her for not letting her stay at canterlot high but let her friend twillinght stay Rarity must have knew that ' nightmare moon appears celestia disappears ' this makes rarity the culprit but from who did she learn to control the stars ?…? ……. Star swirl Maybe because when we saw the flash back. We had enough info to blame starswirl to teach rarity to control the stars what do you think ? Do u agree with me
I think that maybe celestial could see the future or the tree of hormany but i think it's celestial because she does everything comly as if see knows what will happen
Well celestia controls the sun and stars yes and moon but did we ever see lunas potential we only saw he raise the moon but remember when Luna and celestia changed marks now celestia reacted like she has never raised the moon or did any of lunas tasks well who ever said she was the one raising the moon all those years and it was Luna well yes she was vanished to the moon but when chrysalis was turned to stone her throne pieces worked fine on the castle so her magic could still work so what if nightmare got the practice and that’s why Luna was so existed after being reformed
maybe luna cause it might of took her a thousand years to move the stars to freedome cause if luna controls the moon and celestia controles the sun that must mean that luna was moving the stars to freedome.
It make sense for Celestia to free luna bc not only she wants her sister back and she knew the elements of harmony is fitting for the mane 6 maybe celestia wanted to test the mane 6 friendship
Hi I have a suggestion about who could have controlled those stars maybe it was some magical creature or it’s more about the spell so here’s how I think it might’ve went with the spell maybe a spell word last for 100 years because we know that discord was trapped there for 100 years I think and a bunch of other villains so I think it’s at the time about whoever was stuck in prison for only a certain amount of time before they can be released in maybe their own saying that what they do will represent and three of them that could be worth when the spell was off those star is moved to show nightmare moon was returning so yeah that’s my theory and yeah bye
Can you make a vid on were rain comes from? Like we see the Pegasi “create” rain by jumping on a storm cloud but how does the rain get there in the first place. We are told that the everfree forest is the only place with natural weather. We have seen the weather factory make clouds and rainbows ( but I can’t remember if they make rain) and without rain shouldn’t there be a drought. In one of starlights time lines we see a deserted and dry equestria meaning without pony’s somehow water goes away wich begs the question if they make water falls and stuff and if Pegasi make the weather how are they supposed to make rain/water? Without a horn how do they make it ? Is there a special kind of Pegasi? And if that were true how come they didn’t fix the hypogrif problem sooner? They would have to keep in touch to keep the ocean well the ocean lol. Idek what I’m talking about at this point lol.
What if Celestia can't control the stars maybe Luna set herself free but the true question is where did Celestia gone missing like it's only been a few seconds since Nightmare Moon came so where did she run off to? This was always in my brain for quite awhile so can you find out this?
If you see very carefully Twilight Sparkle has a star cutie mark I was thinking I think it was Twilight Sparkle release Nightmare Moon but if toilet Sparkle did it just because of her cutie mark what I think I think it's a little bit true I've been looking at the Cutie Mark 4 hours and I've been observing all of the power it's just because of the cutest part is color pinkish purplish and it kind of makes sense and I'll look it emerges actually like a star the other one is like just like Rainbow – just a cloud with a rainbow and Rarity is versus a gemstones and Pinkie Pie are balloons and all the pony cutie mark that I know that has a star is Twilight Sparkle don't think it was Twilight Sparkle toys for girl riding nude going to come out he might be someone someone controls the star someone has been trapped in star no way is going to be some Celestia because she's nice and everything I think 100% think it might be grow guard or it might be the most amazing sorcerer Star Swirl you know it might be very very obvious because grow guard is Liv and trapped with the Stars like it's really obvious but the one thing about Star Swirl is the first name is actually a star and then it goes swirl it didn't make any sense. But I have a 100% it's actually starts world or grow guard
Well technically. Princesses Celestia controls ONLY the sun and moon in the beggening THEN Princesses Luna controlled the moon. But who controlled the stars? STARSWIRLS! It has it in his name so he probably controls it?
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Of course celestia can raise the moon, remeber that part that nightmare moon vanished and locked up in the moon?, That was that time celestia needs to do lunas duty.
Hi am this is just my theory I'm kind of answering your questions I have 3 options for you number one twilight sparkle like she kind of has a like a star on her being and star does not mean friendship so maybe it means she can secretly control the stars without knowing too a could be Luna but Luna couldn't free herself because she controls the night and the final third one could be so last year guys she does control the sun and the sun is technically a star a big ball of fire technically she could control the dog out even knowing it also she took in Luna's power by raising the sun and moon when Luna was entrapped in the moon so technically she would have more power to oh yeah whatI said, Luna on the thing where they said she could control the sun, I don't think I said, do the right, but anyways, yes, that's my 3 answers for you
Doesn't celestia have a nephew? Doesn't his cutie mark resemble a star? Isn't he also a unicorn? Maybe the parent that connects him to celestia is in control of the stars. If celestia and luna were once unicorns maybe they had more siblings.
I mean either it was a 1000 year spell or celestia just wanted her sister back but knew she couldn’t reforme her so litterly sent 6 random ponies to save the day- or celestia didn’t do anything and star swirl did or as no 1 it was a 1000 year spell ;-;
I think always luna controls the stars before she was trapped in the moom I think that who controls the moon also controls the stars so I think that celestia controls the stars
Oh my god! You know how there was 4 stars to nightmare moons escape....There was also 4 stars on twilights cutely mark! Forget the pink star I just mean the 4 stars around the pink star
FIRST!!!!!!! Hi And also 1:39 I mean she always did that, all the returns of vilans until the end of season 3 were orchestrated by her so twilight would be ready to become a princess, I mean in season 3 premiere celestia even says that this was her test, and in the ending of the episode she says to Luna that twilight has now only one more test which is the season 3 finale, she send the book on purpose so all of it could happened, thats why she loosed her fight with crystalis and never helps the mane six.
It think Celestia controls the stars and the moon because stars are sun's billions of miles away but that would mean Celestia is very powerful that she can control the stars and sun and it spreads miles away so that means that she has very big power so it makes it a little different
Maybe Twilight sparkle ones the stars because look closely at her ciute Mark it is a big star and has got smaller ones around the biggest star it makes sense do you think
I may be late, but did Luna’s father bail out Nightmare Moon? Maybe it her dad did something like that in the past, and wanted to bail Luna. I also think that since Luna’s dad has magic, he added the plan for her to escape in the book. For Daybreaker, maybe it was her mom who enabled her. Maybe in the dream, her Mom showed her if she was ever going to become jealous.
what if shining armor released nightmare moon to get twilight for friends? Besides u said he might be an alicorn, and he has multiple stars on his cutie mark like twilight
Celestial,Luna And cadence but twilight sparkles name has to do with her cutie mark But Celestial, Luna and cadence have nothing to do with their cutie mark. Define the word twilight it possibly could be the stars and twilight sparkle controlled the stars and that was a hidden talent and she wanted to bring Luna back to remake a friendship
Just a theory: Just because Nightmare moon is in the Moon doesn’t stop ponies from having nightmares! We all know how powerful starlight glimmer is so it wouldn’t be a surprise if Nightmare moon found a way into a powerful ponies dream. She could have manipulated Starlight so she could begin learning how to control stars! Her cutie mark never told us anything about her how about it controls the stars? (Or at least some) I think starlight glimmer did it and the tree of harmony did have a part to play. I think the tree sensed Starlight and told Celestia about it. Then Celestia made sure it happened and put it in books for ponies to read.
Half of my brain thinks it's twilight and half of my brain thinks it's star swirl idk why. Wait I think it actually luna because when mlp tells us the story of why luna turned into nightmare moon it said: "Celestia was greatly appreciated by the ponys in equestria for bringing the sun to rise every day but luna was not greatly appereciated by the ponys of equestria for raising the moon and the STARS" See ? The text said luna can raise the moon and the stars!
all the alicorns cutemark relate to what thay control well twilight cute mark look like magic or starts . her cute mark relate back to the tree if you look at the tree the big star is in the midel and the other stars are on the outsied like her cutemark .
I’m sure she did because she’s her sister and im sure she missed Luna so she released her from the moon because she banned her to the moon. Why she can’t release her from the moon?
Well the stars went in pattern I bet that you did not notice because you were only focused on who bailed her out so here are my theories. well first my theory was that twilight sparkle could bailed her out because like any unicorn she would want to see night mare moon in person but that got debunked. So then I searched one sawtooth wave videos that about did celestia bailed night mare moon and what lauren faust said in twitter was amazing ( sorry if I spelled it wrong) said this "Watch the episode again ------ the stars align in perfect pattern and who controls the sun moon and stars" sawtooth replied that celestia bailed her out but that is debunked. Then she said "who controls the stars" And I think I know who has the power to control the equastria and it is star swirl abearded now here is my theory. in season 4 apple jack said this about the pony of shadow "Some his magic escaped" now does that mean also some of star swirls magic escaped and tried stopping the pony of shadows magic to escape then by accident it could have bailed night mare moon so then tree took action of it to bring the main six to reform her. oh and stars aligned in a way that looked like star swirls cutie mark.
Maybe we do have a sister of the stars because in ticket master rarity mentioned celesta’s royal niece so either Luna had a child or a different sister maybe one of the stars did which could mean cadence did not be the first allicorn to give birth But I really don’t think so
I think I know who controls the stars celestia has a cutie mark of the sun Luna has moon and twilight has a star maby without knowing she realised nightmare moon I think
Ok so isn't doing a council sure that's the end and I dreamland so that means I left you can control the song and something else and the song is a medium-sized star so that means she could control the stars but just like Lauren valves and controls the song the one the stars went I left in Spanish that she's controlling the sun the moon and stars because of stars is a son actually more like a fun so so you're her back because not because number one 120 want to make sense so it's nice and warm and lots and let down all the main six me to gather friendship number 2 of course you'll miss her sister because it's her sister childhood so does she have to release her because you shouldn't like seem like they're more than 1000 Years died so because I will of course be more than unicorns
Maybe celestia knew that twilight is so special cause twilight cutie mark and twilight harmony jem thingy looks the same and celestia know that its a sign to make nightmare moon back what she was lunar Or maybe its twilight look at her cutie mark🤣
this is the 8th time i seen this vid and i understand what happened so if the 2 alicorns which is the Sun and moon then what if there really is a princess of stars? well MLP never spoke of it and we fans never seen it . that “Pony” can be like the young 6 different species and that “Pony” raises the stars befor the moon get raced and after the sun is here? i really hope u can reply about what do you think of this theory?
I also wonder why everyone wants to be first... Like as if they would've won an award or something if they were the first to comment. I really don't get it.
Isn't a whole lot of ponies or a lot of people have been strange about that question i know what question it is all the empires had been controlling the sun and the moon the moon had been controlling the stars are being in the 1 billion even the stars
What is Celestia took the Stars to The elements of Harmony I mean and before into all those Stars until May stars and returned her sister back to normal just so they can learn about and listen just to get you know
Celestia is the sun the sun is a star ,the moon has stars around it and if you put that together it might make the stars ,twilight has a cutie mark of a star magic and those star where magic it’ll make perfect sense Twilight sparkle my ruler the stars maybe the tree?
i think star swirl is behind it as its his name and he also has experience with portals . Now i know he never believed in friendship but may be celestia and star swirl did it all together after all they knew each other since a thousand years. if u think this theory might be true do like
Mine is weird but I think the tree of harmony gave Celestia a vision of her return in her words "I saw the sign's"so she hade twilight come and new she was the one and the tree of harmony new what to do bc it's wise.
How about the matrix how they have the powers everything has been change spin the wheel to the two of the sisters have ruling crystal empire for a very long time that means the crystal empire has been in equestrian impression that means from ruling the world of equestria new abilities to change to another power
Since wait I am asking about a different video so since Twilight actually I realized that she had killed the tree before she got her castle 🏰 she said that the tree and the elements of harmony will never bee broken so she lied can you make a video about it
my theory but idk the person controlling the stars is the maker of the book how? Well how would the book know the stars would aim her escape if it never happened in the past so someone could've made an escape plan and before luna was imprisoned luna gave someone 500+ years to live so one the person can break her free.
I have a question. If Luna is the only one who can raise the moon, and Celestia the sun. This bring the question how did Celestia raise the moon? We have seen that twilight needed a magic artefact, cause her magic wasn't strong enough. This bring be also the question, how is Twilight raising both sun and moon now she rules Equestria? Here is my theory, Celestia raise the sun in front of the moon, cause the moon was in the same place Luna left it when she became Nightmare moon. This means that Celestia never rules the night, in facto Lunas job was there, the moon never left the spotlight.
so I think twilight controls the stars because it go's with Luna moon celesta sun twilight sparkle stars see what i mean? but that wouldn't make since of she wasen't a alicorn back in season one plus she's not the type to do that, so my only guess is star swirl because he probably did it by accident but what if nightmare moon let herself out, maybe she was waiting this long just for the perfect time?
or when she put Luna into the Moon it might of meant temporally like only 1,000 years because it is her sister and you probably wouldn't send you sister to the moon temporally even if they're mean I mean I have sisters and I wouldn't banish them to the moon or like jail in Earth since that makes more sencse then the moon
I think the TREE and celestia, Because celastia USED to control the tree, maybe she wanted one last time using the tree's magic? That is my theory! PS Love ur vids!
My theory is twillight who freed nightmare moon because twillight has stars in her cutie mark so she controls the stars because shes"twillight sparkle''
I think I know it may seem dum, but~~ There were only 2 known pricesses celestia and Luna Witch are kinda like queens what im saying is the 2 princesses or maybe even queens raise the sun n moon tho in the mlp movie we meet queen novo, the pricesses all have duties what about queen novo, and queen novo has something the other hippogriffs don't a wobbly glowstick thing on her head like a horn, could that be a source of power? Maybe novo realised her ?
Moon means night sun means day is control by Celestia night is control by Luna or nightmare moon stars can be seen only in the night means only Luna can do that just trashed your theory filled with holes
i think twillght would control the star caues as her name says twillight sparkle star appear after twillight in the human world and sparkle means sparkly star so that s my theory
wait isnt the sun is a star- and celestia controls suns so does that means that celestia is controlling the stars (moon is a rock from earth qwq)well thats what i heard ;-;
mabye it was just a consiadince, 1000 years later mabye the elements can let people out of the moon the same way other animals and dicord always get off stone?
I got one if you look closely at twilight (at the last summer sun celebration) look Celestia and Luna's horn they are not using magic and twilight is.Maybe she got a bit.Cary a way because.I mean look at her at the first episode 😂 and her cutie mark is stars and Celestia's is a sun Luna's is a moon think about it-_-.
Stars can be planets to whoever controls planets is the one who made the Stars do that if they were planets maybe it's coming out in another season who cares right now we have full seasons so all we can do is wait
I think ca;estia had a vision befor nightmair moon and her sister would refuse to bring down the moon and in 1000 years there would be 6 ponys that defets nightmair moon so when luna refused to bring down the mooon celestia cast a spell that lasted 1000 years
Do you actually realize that on the Summer sun celebration at Twilight Sparkle set and then look at the Moon you see those four stars are starting to moving and trying to do something that you said from the other video can you make another video the One like this like this
Twilight control the Stars I mean just look at her cutie mark and she's an alicorn let me explain you're talking about who controls the Stars well one Chas Seven Stars on her cutie mark 2 she's an alicorn 3 she likes reading books 4 why did she control the stars because you wanted to see nightmare moon or something
there was a plan that discord was one of a million someting dracoses dont know why it was removed it woud have been cool does discord have any relatives beacause remember of celestia and luna tey we were told that they were born alicorn but well changed bad writing.
Hi heard that Luna rises the moon AND STARS but when Luna became nightmare moon and Celestia took over Luna duty’s so Celestia was controlling SUN MOON AND STAR
Watch all the videos again Calestia’s job is raising the sun and Luna’s job is to raise the moon there cutie marks also mach there jobs and Twilight’s job is to control the stars her cutie mark also has stars
first thing why whould the spirit of harmony free nightmare moon and then lets come onto your qustion or lauren fausts who controlls the stars, I really think that princess twilight does like seriosly even look at her cutie mark...
Meh :p I’ll tell mah theory If u look back in that episode, Twi sent a scroll to Celestia saying that nightmare moon is gonna come back And u know what happened next right? Celestia told Twi to go to ponyville, And turns out that Twi defeated Nightmare Moon with her friends, what a coincidence…….Like Celestia knew it was going to happen obviously! When Twilight turned into an alicorn by Celestia….She revealed that she could technically see the future Some of u might see it as “No she watched over Twilight” well ofc she did, do u think she’s a stalker? Celestia knew she needed to send Twi away, and one of the reasons she was getting overwhelmed is cuz the day she’d send her away is the day Nightmare moon is gonna come back. It’s not only bc she doesn’t wanna send her student away, celestia is the one who literally BANISHED Luna to the moon, She’s obviously gonna know when she comes back. And when she did banish Luna, she was in control of the Elements Of Harmony Am meh right? well…The elements could’ve been a signal for celestia to send her away. Or maybe that’s when the Elements lost control of her..So she could’ve sent twilight away for her friends to take over the elements. So in this conclusion…? Celestia did not release Luna. But she knew she would get released, and controlled twilight to meet friends and defeat her. Cuz…….
She wasn’t in control of the elements anymore.. :p
It think Celestia controls the stars and the moon because stars are sun's billions of miles away but that would mean Celestia is very powerful that she can control the stars and sun and it spreads miles away so that means that she has very big power so it makes it a little different in your therioy
It coudent been celestia or star swirl or anothet creture but it could of been GUSTY THE GREAT!! She sended grogar to the stara so it could of been her :o
True can you do a video about the third stained glass cause it shows the sum the moon and inbetween is there another princess that we don't know about?
Star light control the stars because she came pony will because she know about the luna . She help that smoke like of you about when 6 main chracter have same dream them you can see that somje like of princess seletia killed the nightmare moon when luna is normal so what she kept on moon she kept that smoke like of thing .
well if YOU say that............. IS CELESTIA A VERSION OF THE CUTIE MAP WHICH KNOWS LITERALLY EVERYTHING? (Like ponies names, things, and a FUTURE ALICORN????)
I can say star swirl did that he first name is Star so because you know he has stars on his clothes and his cutie mark is also a star or luna could have done that
I have a theory, Luna is the princess of the night but not the moon, nightmare moon to! Nightmare moon has the control over night so in the moon, NIGHTMARE MOON HERSELF MOVED THE STARS AND ESCAPED! I find this likely but... why did she wait so long to do it...?
What if it was Princess cadence we didn't see her maybe she because she controlled the crystal empire stars are like crystals right maybe she moves the stars to to the moon to not free nightmare moon but to prove that the legend isn't true
I think tree of harmony set night mare moon free it might know that the mane 6 can defeat Night mare moon it is a magcial tree idk but I think tree of harmony freed Night mare moon....but we might never know who accually did that it might not be Grogar, Celestia or the Tree of harmony because if Celestia or Grogar would do it how would it be in the book Twilight read before leaving Cantarlot I just have a feeling its the tree of harmong. Btw love your vids
im late but after lunas banishment celestia took over both duty of raising the sun and the moon and the sun is technically a star (i know u said the sun isnt a star in the mlp world but i think it still it yes the mlp is not our world but that doesnt mean the sun cant be a star and who else u think lauren meant, the only characters that has raised the sun and moon was storm king, starswirl the bearded and the other unicorns, twilight, celestia and luna. Starswirl was in limbo the other unicorns, well we don't even know them, storm king well we dont really know his backstory and he didn't had magic to control the sun and the moon he got that magic from the princesses. Twilight had the magic temporary from the princess) or it could be nightmare moon who controls the stars to release herself out bc if celestia can raise the sun and the moon im guessing luna can do it too
but who was the writer of the book that says the star will make nightmare moon return thing, how did they know, plus nightmare moon was banished for 1,000 years and people forgot there was a 2nd princess
celestia took twilight under her wings so im guessing celestia made a book saying nightmare moon will return and gave it to her then told twilight to make friends
i think thats why celestia opened a magic school
to find a student that can reform luna/nightmare moon
after celestia found twilight and gave her some guidance she knew twilight was ready to ignite the spark and find the 6th element and defeat nightmare moon bringing back luna
the way celestia went missing, she was probably observing since she heard what the mane 6 said but why didnt celestia change nightmare moon to luna when she had the element though that keeps bugging me out
Well, If Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon... If anyone will question, "Who controls the stars?" It must be somepony powerful like an Alicorn cuz Celestia Is an Alicorn, Luna is an Alicorn.. the one that might be a Alicorn bc Celestia and Luna are both alicorns so the power of moving the stars maybe Alicorn Worthy? The night NightMareMoon escaped, the stars, MOVED.. and there must be somepony that moved them?! What do u guys think??
This is just a theory but what if the tree didn't vanish all of Luna to the moon like If the tree left luna`s thing that almost escaped into the real world and made it a living nightmare .... maybe that's the thing that controls the stars?
I think that Celestia did not do it I think the leader of the team that used to set the sun and moon did it because he is powerful and I think it would help the test sooo Celestia did 1part and he did the other aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i'm in 2nd grade
WAIT! im sorry, but isn't twilight the one with her CUTIE MARK AS A STAR!!!!???? my theory doesn't make a lot of sense since twilight IS the one that was worried and knew about nightmare moon's return. but just think about it, maybe, by mistake, she was the one that released NIGHTMARE MOON
Ok the tree set luna free but the question is the tree wasn't ther went the main six pony defited nightmare moon how did it luna free seriously thought
Hey sawtooth can you make a video about if ponies can go to the bathroom I know they probably can take a shower and brush their teeth but can they go to the bathroom
Hmm I think there is a clue im episode 21 season 8 "a Rockhoof and a hard place twilight says and I quote " oh no stars can move slowly over time they must look different now over 1000 years ago." End quote
maybe it can happened princess celestia Miss princess Luna and think princess Twilight sparkle and her friend can handle this I don't know about the star but I think princess on princess Luna when she was locked in moon
Twilight sparkle or tree of harmony look at that cutie mark of Twilight sparkle it’s a spark like stars and The tree of harmony it’s like in season nine twilight and her friends found out a chest inside the chest she got her new castle and the center of the castle the spark if you like this hit the like button
I dont think thet Twighlight set nightmer moon free, but she kuld be the princess who kontrols the stars. I mean she didnt have any roal but friendship. And look at her cuty mark
I think the luna always job to rising the moon because I have seen episode then the celestia defective Luna means nightmare moon and the nightmare moon is anywhere I think so because she is locked anywhere in the celestia tell the Twilight sparkle full history of nightmare moon and she said the nightmare moon is free I think so the Luna is also have a castle on the moon because I see that video so I think the Luna is rising moon and the moon set
Ok I have a guess.Eho in My Little Pony has a star in there cutie mark that we knew of? Here's the article Twilight Sparkle I mean look at t huh at cutie mark
Wait look at the stars then princess twilight cutie Mark align one of the stars with the other four take away the one in the middle and the one next to it then put the moon in the middle of the four stars then you know who let nightmare moon out
I think it was star swirl yes and he planted it the tree what if he was trying to communicate with the pony’s in equestria because he was stuck in limbo
Four stars : four razem All of the three ponies i mean for example Rainbow, pinky and rarity And alicorns So : one pegas, one unicorn, one earth pony and one alicorn who can bez Celestia ???
So maybe the Tree of harmony connect to a Celestia and let's the let's you control the song and someone and sisters but was out we saying it but also letting the Tree of harmony control this the start Swan Princess Celestia needs to go out of the moon actually is there a bathroom in the moon😁
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Huo Meicheng2020-10-10 17:13:20 (edited 2020-10-10 17:17:28 )
No one controls the stars when it goes morning pony’s can’t see the stars
luna herself beacouse the stars and moon are two things we see in the night the sun is only in the sky when its day but celestia controls the sun and luna controls the moon butwe do not know about the stars discord could of free luna with his magic but he was stone so the real answer ur looking for is finding out the mother the real real real real mother of celestia and luna hope my informatoin helps im no creator from mlp but i am a fan and i hope u see my coment
My daughter party cannon aka abigale and me cuddle fart aka vijay. Think that the tree of harmony sent the visions to celestia making her send twilight to ponyvile and to make friends. Cool channel we love your videos
If the sun is a star in our world but what about in their world.And maybe she saw the signs but maybe the tree of harmony.And you should get your canen
I still beleived the theory of gogor who did released nightmare 🌕 but if you see in the a video called luna' cutie mark Celestia she has to raised the star some night and when she is out of practice celestia doing for
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Sum Tech2021-06-28 02:17:55 (edited 2021-06-28 02:20:37 )
And I don't think yhe that tree of harmony will cause starlight stop the rainboom nightmare 🌕 was released when the friend were not connected yet like the tree was smart so it has no reason to and you can't argue with the Creator
I really like a channel when I was five I started watching my pony now I am 10 and when I was 5 I found your channel and I loved your channel but now my little pony is finished and I am sad about it so I am telling you that I like you channel
Ahem if we are talking about stars LOOK AT TWILIGHT'S CUTIE MARK MAYBE SHE DID IT TO TEST THEIR FRIENDSHIP OR SOMETHING AND FORGOT THAT SHE DID THAT SO SHE WAS SURPRISED
Let me guess the tree of how many somehow control Gogo because he got sent to the stars so the truth hi mini cruise control Gogo to move the stars closer to nightmare me and will leasing her
Take the pill ow planted the tree of Harmony and then the main tip use the element of Harmony and in and outside of the tree the pillow only let me know I killed it don't know who who later is nightmare Moon who walked into the night into the dream I definitely I know who walked in the drink and she accidentally come and it can't be to Lucius because they're looking only I know this one it's Luna Luna is the night of moon she she she waited the Moon and ponyville and done when she waited the moon when when she was angry and then she she became a temporary I think nightmare Moon delicia I don't still listening to the animal elementary Harmony to to put nightmare Moon back into the Moon
I am absolutely sorry I am sending in voice message don't read that message I am sure who control the stars when I saw your picture in the video please Twilight was included one racing the sun so I think who are controlling the star is twilight sparkle
It is celestia is the won in the season 7 at celestia advice Wen twilight is the mist top student in the canterlot and Wen celestia SE the mane six and celestia send twilight to ponyvile to revorm luna
You guys might Ben wonder how celestia release nightmare moon of course youse starswirl speel of course i know i know starswirl is not here but the speel is like twilight swich the mane six Cutie mark
What if she did free here but defeated her so she did free here but what she was doing was not to teach them a lesson what is she wanted to see here sister again
Sam is Twilight sparkle has her cutie mark like a star she may become control of the stars to and maybe the property was in chanted to whoever read it in the thousand year well free her
So i understand what the creator meens so sche sed who controls the sun the moon and the stars so when she said stars i knew what they meant when luna was waniesht ssche controls the night and the day she didnt move the stars but the moon and the sun but when celestia faund the perfekt ponies she realiest luna (night mare moon ) with the stars but all those years celestia didnt control the stars bcs that will shock everponie and celestia wated for the perfeckt time to realies luna (night mare moon)
I hate how twilight was the main character. Rainbow dash mostly made all the cutie marks. And twilight gets the be the main character when rainbow dash made the cutie marks.
i think that fluler hart contruels the stars and she is the prinssce of light i thik dis becaes celestia coutles the sun and luna contles the moon and then cadence rules the crystly empier she is the princess of love and then twilght sparkel is the princess of friendship and before that groger ruled the world and then gusty the grat stolee his bell and banish hi too the stars and the the princess moved the 3 stars and that the princess mane 6 and the tree of harmony relest nightmare moon
the star is ckntroled by star swirl celestia shine like a star but the sun is not like a star it is really hot at sun so star swirl is ckntrlling the star....and celestia banish nightmare moon but luna only returns when the movie is done. like i see luna retruns so fast when twilight and her friends deafted nightmare moon luna was there but when celestia deafited nightmare moon her sister luna is on the moon so luna only retruns when the movie is ended. :)
Sun is a star i think celestia is behind the star and realeasd him but he bunhesed him on the moon in a thoasand years and i think she is already realeised so that the episode celestia dont see in the raised the sun so nightmare moon buneshd him in the sun now so she now buneshd......
Celestia you're the elemental Harmony to to Venice nightmare Moon into the Moon and Luna I think this happened and then when I don't know and some kind of more nightmare Moon is still into the Moon and then the main thing you did the elemental Harmony to the elements do they do and a quick a rainbow to the rainbow blue cool onto nightmare Moon and then it turn into a tornado of color and then that tornado of color Spanish and then she became back Luna okay that done
Watch more videos but I want to videos where is this video that that explains to the closest stores it’s princess Luna who controls the stars but she got out of practice so she had to like you know how to sew last year do it and have a bed for
What do horses look like in equestrian and I mean my little PONY and I heard ponies are smaller than horses but in the show th e ponies are horse sized??
Hi That was me I'm aSpider25 also I don't know who control the stars but I do know the earth goes around the sun but I swear to god if someone did who could it be? also ty and I loves your videos Sawtooth Wavs I'm alicorn but stronger you know what I'm meant by stronger ok bye 😁
there’s a problem with celestia releasing nightmare moon. In season 6 finale when starlight messed up the past you you can see in one of the presents nightmare moon took over equestria. That shouldn’t have happened because celestia would know for a fact she wouldn’t be reformed if she let her out.
In the one episode, when Tirek wanted all of the magic in the world, Celestia, Luna and Cadence gave Twilight their powers so that Tirek couldn't stell them. If there would be another huge magic that could control the stars, i'm pretty sure they would have mentioned it.
I always thought the the original spell she cast to imprison her sister had a built-in failsafe. Like, it was just on a timer from the start. I.E. the prophecy.
I just realized something. So you know how after Luna got banished to the moon, Celestia took charge of of the Sun and the *Moon*. Apparently, that's what the narrator said in the very beginning. Luna wasn't unbanished yet, so Celestia still had control over the Sun, moon and stars. I think Sawtooth already covered this, but I'm not sure. :P So yes, she probably did release Luna, just like Faust said. Or it could've been the tree, I'm not an expert at this lol. Like so Sawtooth can see!
I feel like there’s a third sister who either died or went missing shortly after birth and still has control over the stars which is why they never disappear just become dull and she felt bad for her sister and let her out using the stars
I pitched this question at my family and it came up that Celestia and Luna may very well have multiple siblings, one of which could have dominion specifically over stars and being a fan of stars was probably really close with Luna. If they were living off world, however, it isn’t impossible to think that it took a thousand years for them to hear about how their favorite sibling was imprisoned on the moon, aided in her escape and proceeded to get into a fight with Celestia to prevent her from putting Luna back in the moon which is why she was not in most of the premiere
I know this will sound weird, but I think Twilight herself released Nightmare Moon. Think about it: Celestia’s cutie mark is the sun so she controls the sun, Luna’s is the moon so she controls the moon. Neither have ever been shown controlling the stars, but who has a star shaped cutie mark? Twilight Sparkle. I think the stars started moving to release Luna because Twilight read the prophecy and believed it would happen.
Alternatively she used Star Swirl’s time traveling spell to go back in time later after she gained alicorn magic and set things in motion knowing everything would work out.
Lauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it. "When" is "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of armony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
Maybe the force of the stars did so, my theory is that a magical relic (similar to the one twilights uses to move the sun and moon) to move the stars, keep in mind that celestial and Luna are using alicorn magic spells not another force to move the sun and the moon, so Maybe celestia was looking for a way to bring back her sister so she searched for a spell like the one she uses to rise the moon and the sun, to bring the banished back. Suddenly she stumbles across a spell that can bring banished back with the help of the stars that form a specific way to open a gate way of magic which is activated by the spec she casted 1000 years ago. The relic would only activate after 1000 years due to the right time, when you combine that with destiny it would mean that nightmare moon and the main six were destined to meet in that time. But that would leave the question open how do they know about the 1000 years? They didn’t, it’s a myth. That’s my theory it’s not satisfying at the end but ig it’s good enough XD
ok, so I have a theory.
"Who controls the sun, moon, and stars?"
Of course, we all assume that means Celestia since she is the only one we see that is able to control the sun and moon on her own. But the stars? We've only ever seen Luna be able to control them. And I agree with The Brony Notion in that while the sun is considered a star in our world, it may not be in Equestria.
Celestia was gifted the power to move the sun, and yet we see that she can move the moon as well. As such, I don't think it would be a stretch to assume that Luna could move the sun too.
And if that's the case, then Luna is the one who controls the sun, the moon, and the stars.
And by extension, Nightmare Moon.
I'm proposing the possibility that Nightmare Moon broke herself out. After centuries of isolation in the moon, her moon, her anger would begin to grow. and she would use this anger to fuel her power enough that even in her prison she could control the stars. Ever so slightly. Until eventually, the stars would aid in her escape and she would finally have her revenge.
What do you guys think?
me: I'm reposting this comment! and I totally agree
You should make the guardian of the stars and other planets. Also is it possible that there are other universes? Pinkie could be the guardian of the stars… It makes sense because she sees things, reacts to them, but she never does say she never knew that was gonna happen…
0:43 well it kinda make sense, Celestia knows that 1000 years after nightmare moon's banishment, she will have a student who will become heir to the throne, she wrote the book to prepare twilight, the banishment spell last forever but she release her 1000 years later on purpose, to test twilight's power, and probably most of twilight's journey and foe she faced was set up by Celestia to test her strength.
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The Master2020-08-31 06:11:41 (edited 2020-08-31 06:19:14 )
I think Luna is the one who moves the night which include stars
My original thought was star swirl controls the stars cause of the Star in his name but i really quickly realized that cant be possible if he was trapped in limbo
I think it’s both the tree and Celestia Just after Celestia banished her sister she said while crying “ harmony please can you give me my sister back “ or something along this lines the tree excepted it and set it up like the first episode then Celestia had vision about the first episode and helped it forward. that is just my theory
If you read the book. journal of the two sisters. It says in Luna's diary entry saying that she was being taught by starswirl to move the stars. She was successful. but It took a lot of concentration. Luna said once she was able to raise the moon she would graduate into moving the stars. with I think she mastered before her corruption. Is it possible... That nightmare moon could have freed herself?!!!
If it was the tree, how would it know, I mean, the tree was long before Luna even was jealous and dreamwalking ( watched the Daybreaker episode)how would the tree had known...
Let me fix this theory. Princess Luna used to mo e the moon and the stars therefore since she was banished someone else had to take up that job. So yes princess celestia did free might nare moon but your evidence could be more accurate. Oh and how do I know princess Luna changes the stars just watch the prologue again it says; ‘princess Luna would raise the moon and stars to bring the night.’ Or something like that.
I think Celestia brought nightmare moon because she was must be missing her sister, must be tired of controlling sun and the moon and also twilight then realized how much friendship is important.
Maybe Lauren Faust was pointing to Luna/Nightmare Moon doing this? Maybe all these years she was just PULLING those stars towards the moon for them to one day release her?
If she WAS pointing to Celestia then it probably has something to do with Celestia taking on Luna's duties to raise the moon after Luna was Banished... I have 2 possibilities, Maybe Celestia can't get the stars right every night because It's normally Luna that does them, Or Celestia May have PURPOSELY moved those 4 stars closer and closer to the moon each night to one day release her sister and hopefully get stopped by The Newly found Mane 6..
I have 2 theorys First,your right.The tree tested the mane 6,and the student 6 before. So maybe the tree made it or used someone to make it
But,Celestia is the Princess of the Sun,that means,She is the Princess of the Day too.And Luna is the Princess of the Moon,so she is the Princess of the Night too. So,Luna can't move the stars,but she maybe can conect whit the stars .So maybe stars wanted to save their Queen.Or if Celestia is controling the Moon and the Sun (being the Princess of the Night and the Day at the same time),since Luna not at Equestria,maybe she conected whit the stars and sad them to save Luna!
Ok so this is a theory i thought of while reading the comments. So I’m season 1 we were introduced to Prince Blueblood who is apparently their nephew, implying that there is a potential long lost sibling out there somewhere. Soooo celestia controls the sun, Luna the moon, and long lost sibling.... may control the STARS! Now that raises a few questions, who, where and why. Who is this long lost sibling, where are they, and why did they free Luna. Could they predict things or get visions? WAIT ok so we’ve seen celestia is able to kinda get visions of thing that are happening presently, i mean she literally has a realm where she could watch all of the things twilight was doing, some may argue that makes her past but i don’t think so lol. So what if this sibling can predict the future? Think about it if they have a connection to the stars maybe they see these future things “in the stars” or better yet what if they CONTROL the stars so they can share with others? It would kinda make sense, Celestia is present, sibling is future and maybe Luna has extensive knowledge of the past (maybe it’s why she talks the way she does). This could also explain why she let nightmare moon out, she saw that she would be reformed by the mane six which sent off a seriös of chain reactions that is now the friendship is magic series.
Now comes the where, where is this long lost sibling. I for one think they are in the astral plane/ sky realm where Nightmare moon was and where grogar maybe resides. So why is she there? I’m thinking three things. One maybe the burden of seeing the future is something she didn’t want her sisters to endure so maybe she self exiled herself. Two, maybe she is the keeper of the sky realm and watches over it. Three maybe the price of seeing the future is maybe you can’t directly share it with anyone. (Something Else is that they could be imprisoned there but i don’t think so).
I guess the last question is where did prince blueblood come from? Like did the long lost sibling just drop him off and be gone? I’m not sure so I’ll leave y’all to decide. Thanks for reading 😁
I think you are right but remembering when before the six friends with Twilight (starswirl) and his friends are also part of the tree and they are connected so I think the tree used starswirl magic to free nightmare moon
But there’s no guarantee that the stars are actually controlled by someone so what if the stars are controlled by themselves. Think about it. Celestia was supposed to be In town hall by the time nightmare moon escaped therefore she saw the signs and let twilight and her friends defeat her. However, the sun is a star but another celestial body that has nothing to do with other stars so she can’t be responsible.
Lauren Faust Never said it was Celestia who did it is someone that controls the sun moon and the stars but we have no proof that she was meaning Celestia!
But isnt the stars a sun itself too? And a sun is a star itself? After it becomes a medium sized star it becomes a red giant.isnt it possible that celestia setted nightmare moon free?
Celestia only released nightmare moon and Discord released 3 villains Queen Chyrasils, tirek and cozy glow by pretending to be grogar.Celestia didn't pretend to be someone else like discord. So Celestia know's what's she is doing!!👩👩👩
I guess princess celestia have waited for twilight to make friends and be ready once she thought twilight was ready she must have freed nightmare moon.
I think it's Celestia and maybe the tree of Harmony literally look at this thing it is a tree it could be alive or it could be a normal tree just with magic powers those powers are putting the Elements of Harmony in the tree so I think it's just Celestia letting her sister Escape because she knew this was going to happen and I think she lied about her sister's return made her sister return she didn't really say that the way you explained it just doesn't make sense
i read a few other and it seemed that you all presume celesta or nightmare moon herself or the tree of harmony But I have another theory- what if it was someone that ruled equestria that was powerful and ancient who else would that be??? ANS.:THE REAL GROGAR!!!!!!! When gusty the great took his bell he might have a little power so he went to the future (looked in his crystal ball to) see Luna(nightmare moon) being banished peeps he used his last bit of magic to transport him to another land like scorpan went back to his homeland and wait till nightmare's anger to grow upand use a bit more of he might have restored over time and move those stars .
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Philip K2020-08-13 23:47:14 (edited 2020-08-13 23:48:49 )
I think it is twilight’s mom because her cutie mark is the stars ✨🌚🌚
I discovered a thing all of you watch the actual episode and you see Nightmare moon when twilight is reporting to celestia about it is the Thousand Year and Nightmare moon is gonna come and you see Nightmare moon as a reflection on the time thing you know that sand thing
I think when Luna and celestia said that even an alicorn birth was even out of their understanding I think they meant that they don’t completely under stand the science behind their own birth. Think about it when your a baby you don’t just pop out and know why and how you where born you need to be taught that. Celestia and Luna where most likely taken from there parents when they where young and their parents never got the chance to teach them about alicorn birth. All I’m saying is that there is still a chance that Luna and celestia where born alicorn s plzzzzz read this comment I think it would makes a lot of sense even with the fact that flurry heart is the alicorn of light because sisters are related like one is related to ones family. Them being the alicorns of sibling hood would mean that from birth they would be together and that them being the alicorns of sibling hood would apply right away. Well any ways I loveeee your videos byeeee.
Twilight sparkle her name makes sense to the stars and also she was the one to actually see it and also she was reading frisky like she read a spell she actually did on the stars
Well i think a unicorn was doing practice and her cutey mark is stars so she was practecing and by accident control the star and free who ever is it (i forgot) and i'm curious if its a new training alicorn because no one is stronger than that
Celestia kind of freed nightmaremoon daybreaker freed her because she did say she should of destroyed her so she freed her because she was gonna destroy her after
I think the person that controls the stars is the mother of Celestina and luna,Queen Galaxia.First,If Queen Galaxia died then Celestia would have been Queen,but like she is still a princess,Galaxia is still alive,plus it’s galaxy,And what is in a galaxy,So many Stars,So that is what I think
I think starlight is there long lost sister and when she was younger she had a short temper and when Luna and Celestia got there wings or horn starlight was gone to her grandmas house or something but when she returned she realized she missed her sisters getting there wings or horn so because she had a short temper and her parents promised they would wait until she came home but they didn’t and Luna was aways there for her so when she was sent to the moon she was still to know what was going on or to get her wings and when she realized she was set to the moon she was mad but knew there was a reason so she brought her back when the time was right but when she went to say hi again she was so excited but then when she said hello Luna and celesta forgot about her so with out no one not even her best friend so without anyone to calm her down she became crazy but then twilight calmed her down........about the lost of her best friend she thought no one would believe her if she said she is the princess’s sister
Wait the sun the moon and the stars aren't those all things that light up and I remember when you said furly heart was The Princess Of Light and remember that episode that twilight went to the past. Well Fury heart could have gone to the past and move the stars because the stars are light. So Fury heart could have moved the stars and she would know that she had to do it because she all ready did.
Sorry I was late for my comment but it’s obvious it was twilight because if you watch the last sun celebration Twilight was using her magic I think she controls the stars but who moves the clouds???
I think that she was saying that it was Starsworld, if I'm spelling that right. I mean he did help raise the sun, and his name has to do with stars, also what if he didn't want Luna, one of his dear pupils stuck in the moon! Now I know what your thinking, but he wouldn't have been able to do that considering where he was, well my answer to that is... I don't know, this is just my theory you know? Maybe Sawtooth can fix it in some way to make it work.
Okay I need to tell you something it's very important and I think it's a theory that you will want to post a video about so on the grand Galloping Gala video when My Little Pony Rarity said that the blue bell was Celestia's nephew so either Luna had a baby or they have another sister and who would that sister be the one that controls the Stars
I think she did it beacuse she new that they were the right six ponnies that would save her sister. And she even looked on pinkie, appeljack, dash, rarity and fluttershy before twilight come. AND she said that twilight should check everything is ok were 2/3 of them were at. And with the tree, the tree didn’t have the harmony at that time
Wait...stars...TWILIGHT not on purpose. It what if she triggered it by going to pony ville? The tree felt her and the others presence all together and then that is what aet nightmare free. Celestia saw the signs as twilight rejected friendship until that moment.
well this might help a little but celestia is a princess of the sun so she is tierd all day and when starlight switched their marks luna is tired so celestia feel what her sister feel, s and if she realisd night mare moon her thout, s will be like day breaker
Dude twilighs name is twilight sparkle and her cute Mark is a star fun fact when I first watched it I thought that Luna controlsthe moon celestial controls the sun and twilight controls the strs😐
I know this doesn’t really make any sense aaand I’m here too late but what about Twilight is able to control stars in the future ya know her other ”form” would be The Princess Of Stars well it doesn’t answer a question who controllet them before- maybe Star Swill like the other comment said? Ps: she has stars on her cutie mark.
• YuiiBoo • I’m very sure that unicorns from generations and generations raised the sun and moon. And plus,Celestia was probably alive when the empire first began
I think there's another alicorn that controls the stars or maybe its celestia and Luna mom I was so dying who is there mom so I think there mom is still alive
Celastya rools the stars becus in won video that it was celastya seid I will help you weth the stars and you doo the moon and you will help me weth the sun
so I dont know what season nine is because my tv doesn't have that season but I think starswirl controls the stars and luna the moon celesta I dont if I splet that right sorry anyway she the sun honestly I think those student that saved the school have something to with nightmare moon anyways bye
Who can Cantorlrlthe starts you now starts come at night time so who can control moon prinsses Lunu she still part of night mare moon🌙 whood Be Day breaker no there fighting they dont like eack other hmhmhmhm so confuosing
When she says "I saw the signs of her return " what she ment was "I saw you and your friends emerging as the bearers of the elements and I knew it was time to release her"
If I had to guess who released Nightmare moon, I'd have to argue Cozy Glow. Since friendship is magic, and magic is connected to the sonic rainboom winch is connected to destiny, magic IS destiny. The event, -like said in the video was orchestrated by the tree of harmony. Nightmare moon was released the first episode, it was only about half a year to get to the season 8 finale (in the show's time) Meaning, Cozy Glow was still around, around to research and prepare to drain equestria's magic. I have two possibilities. A: Cozy Glow was researching for her spell and came across nightmare moon, and in an attempt to drain/gain her powers, she accidentally weakened Celestia's spell. B: Cozy Glow tried,-and failed at a smaller version of the spell we see in season 8. And when trying this spell, she weakened Celestia's spell keeping Nightmare Moon prisoner, allowing her to escape. But that's just my theory.
I guess it's Starswirl as in another video it's mentioned that Starswirl took Celestia and Luna "under his wing" and made them alicorns,thus making him connected to them.He knew everything about them, including Luna's banishment. When he "found" the right ponies to reform Luna, he would unite them and when the time was right, gave Celestia a vision of what was going to happen who would send the united ponies (Mane 6) to reform Luna. Then, he would rotate the stars, allowing Luna to "escape" and the Mane 6 to reform her. (Not quite familiar with the lore and the older episodes, so there might be some mistakes. :P )
Read the tweet again, Sawtooth. Lauren Faust stated that "the stars aligned in a perfect pattern that allowed her escape." I doubt it was the spirit of harmony. If anything, it was a unicorn. Has anypony's cutie mark ever had a design like that. I don't know for sure, but listen to this. Rewatch the "Unlocking Grogar's True Past" video and listen to what you said. "... Grogar may still have been banished to the stars..." Who banished him? Gusty the Great. This is just a theory, but if Gusty can banish someone to the stars, then she can possibly free someone already banished. Please make your next video on this. Thank you.
was luna able to use magic to escape? if so, I think that she would controll the stars to get revenge on her sister but was defeted. But I also think that she was able to set Nightmare Moon free.
Different mental capacity or not, they still did the exact same thing on different scales. Or at least they would have Alternate Timelines exist, someone in as high a position as her is bound to know that
Also I feel like the Tree of Harmony is Chaotic Harmonious Neutral. It uses bad people to do good things, and good people to do bad things, all for the sake of what it thinks is meant to happen, when really it has ultimate choice ofer what happens
I believe celestia controls the sun and stars are just suns extremely far away so all the evidence adds up to celestia although it does seem that Luna has more of a reputation of controlling space objects rather than celestia and Luna can block the sun using the moon but I still believe celestia moves the stars
I assumed Faust meant that Celestia knew when the imprisonment spell would be broken. If their stars move in predictable manner it wouldn't be that hard. However on reading her tweet again it does look like she's saying it was deliberate...
I have an extremely weird feeling that Celestia and Luna have a third sister that controls the stars, but nobody knows about her existence except (Maybe!) their faint and distant memories of her, and their parents obviously; but we never see the parents in the show so they couldn't tell anyone about the third alicorn sister. Or I could be wrong, I don't know.
Going back to your celestia setting her free theory, maybe she wanted her sister back and knew that with new bairers of the elements with the main focus as friendship, celestia knew that this time, Luna would get reformed, not defeated like how she would have had to been if celestia tried to bring Luna back herself.
In the episodes season one episode one they said that Celestia controls the sun and they said that Luna controls the moon and stars so she made her own escape
Okay. In real life, the stars are too dim to be seen in daylight. No one controls the stars in the MLP universe. They never set. They're always just there.
I feel this is a little obvious but, Starswirl used to control the sun which kinda counts as I star ( at least in our world) and his name is STARswirl, maybe that’s the reason. Unless you wanna say the 4-stars swirled there way on over to the moon and help nightmare moon escape, but, it’s just a theory.
Celestia controls the stars Celestia is the princess of the Sun the sun is just a star that is the closest to Earth are also known as Equestria I think she may have released Nightmare Moon aligning the stars in place I think the tree of Harmony played a very big role in the 9 seasons of My Little Pony friendship is Magic.
well that luna/nightmare moon was sent to the moon doesn't mean that she didn't exist. Plus Celestia ruled only earth rotation so that means luna can accumulate power and herself back. I think stars weren't the ones who moved. Luna waited on the perfect position of moon and Earth. Something like an eclipse of sun or moon. I think that Celestia had a theory that Twilight can be one of the spirits of elements of harmony because of her cutie mark. And as we know Twilight was sent to ponyville to find other spirits. It was luck or destiny. Well, Celestia was teached by Starswirl so he could tell her about the spirits. BUT also he and other pillars were surprised when they noticed that the main six is connected to elements of harmony. Maybe he teached her the spell "predict future". So no magic just physics
I've always thought that Celestia = sun Luna = moon Cadence = planets Twilight = stars She does have stars as a cutie mark....... 🤔🤔 But maybe its Shining Armour. He has stars on his flank but he's not an Alicorn. Maybe..... 🤔🤔 Are there planets in equestria?? Probably not......
well, we still don't know if Clestia did it or didn't but on the other hand it could have done it? We still don't know, what if the creaters of my little pony are hiding something from us!
What if it wasnt the tree but the star swirld and his group? To be fair they where never actually gone in the first place. If i watch the episodes closely u can some parts where his group came into play without having to be there. He is known as one of the best unicorns in my little pony. But i do have one question.... How did the tree get there in the first place and gain so much intelligent? How are the elements created at all? how long is the tree been there? How does it know who is going to use it the elements next? .... Ok so mb more then one question but still if a tree Harmony has a big role in this whole show how did it get to where it was in the first place to gain these roles?
Star swirl did it.even tho he was in limbo we saw that limbo is sort of in stars, a powerful unicorn Like him might be able to cast a spell like that.and take a look at the book “the journal of the two sisters” in the book star swirl talks to Luna about moveing the stars!!!they r probably related??!( or starry told his pet tree to do it ;) ).
Twilight did The ‘stars’ will aid in her escape Twilight Did this without noticing This was the elements Doing aswell, They Use A part of twilights magic And release her,To Grab her attention and take Their new owners for a spin
mmm its rlly obvious that celestia did it tho, I actually rewatched episode 1 and the fact that spike said that celestia was real busy but was celestia busy and ready to release Luna/Nightmare Moon? She also wanted Twilight to make friends in order to stop Nightmare moon, the only thing im getting at is that Celestia is a hypocrite, on discord. Celestia was testing and hoping and trusted Twilight to make friends and defeat Luna, I hope that makes sense ;-;
I saw a comment about blueblood and it got me thinking. If the starswirl alicorn transformation theory is correct, maybe their sibling got overlooked because stars dont move. I was gooing to say that maybe he died off but blueblood is a bit toor ecent for that. AND the stars alligned. But it is very possible that a third sibling would control the stars. Thrid siblings for sun and moon gods/goddesses are not uncommon. Though what they control varies. Like how Eos, (Sibling of Helios and Sselene in greek myths.) controls sunsets and sunries, I would not be suprised at all if a third more secretive sibling shows up. Maybe that sibling is even starswirl? Though he is older and doesnt appear to have wings, he might be the people's alicorn aswell as the Alicorn of the sars, just got transformed later on and hides the wings to fiit in more with the average pony? You might think it disproves the starswirl theory, but it doesnt. I think that starswirl was acctually the oldest siblings and always dabbled in magic. But his ounger sisters, being his siblings were clumsy and accidentally got affected by the potions, making them the first Alicorns. Starswirl wanted to live a normal life for as long as possible but eventually he had to become an alicorn in order nott to die and leave his sisters in grief. He made the spell to make more Alicorns to ake the people's Alicorn not be in. His sisters acknowledged and respected him wanting to live a normal life and abiding by his wishes did not feature him in the history books. Starswirl even has the word star in his name! And about blueblood, nothing ever said he had to be an immediate nephew, he could be extended family. Hope you like my gramatically incorrect crazy heory! :)
(You probably wont but if you do use this comment please screenshot it and use it in the video talking about it. I would love to see this theory taken in or debunked.) (This would also explain why starswirl is such a mysterious figure.)
Well I have a suspicion about something else. There is a twilight zone in the ocean. Right? Maybe twilight is a sea pony maybe that’s why she was so interested in the Chrystal that turned them into mer pony’s . Maybe there is another race of pony’s. Plz make a video on that
When the mane six defeat nightmare moon the elements were big stone balls when celestia banished luna the elements were jewels now did the elements turn into stone ball???
Star swirl planted the tree of harmony the elements stayed in the tree when celestia banished Luna elements were in their castle now did the elements get there???
big cockj2020-06-29 10:21:13 (edited 2020-06-30 17:22:37 )
Star light glimmer is who I think is moving the stars like think about it she has a star in cutie mark plus her name is STAR light glimmer and see how the stars glimmered more then the others just like her name applies and she does know a lot of magic!To think more about the cutie mark there is magic under the star in the cutie mark seeming to push it down kinda like when nightmare moon came too the series doesn't it make sense?...Or maybe I'm just over thinking....
I know why she released nightmare moon remember how the title is called friendship is magic well so last year‘s friendship for Princess Luna made her her stronger for that day So she used her magic to move the stars and booM!!!'!'!!!!!!!!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it was Nightmare Moon how helped herself escape. Bc the book said "the stars will help her ecsape" and Luna escepa in NM. I think she haved to wait then after 1000 years can her escepa. I dont have more anwers srry :( but if somone like this then thx.
Nobody controls the stars it was decteny. Because nightmare moon had to be out of the moon so that twilight would be friends with the mane 6 so the tree of harmonys elements would have bares a bit like the rainboom🌈 . Come on tree of harmony you have your name all over your self.
Maby we can get some information about all of the Mane 6 maybe their secrets there's things that we don't know about the Mane 6 maybe we could try uncovering the secrets
Iv done Alot of reserch on this topic and all i know is Celesta And Luna Parents, Were alicorns, of coarse but From what iv seen and herd from The father-Was Able to control Stars And galaxy/Moon- And her Mother Controls Well the sun And so on {I cant remember what she conrols Other then The sun!} And anyways-Celesta Is like 1000 Years old, There for, Dont alicorns Live Infantry? I mean It could be her Dad-Could Have moved them and controlled them- I mean It Makes sense to me...What do you all think?
HER mother why you ask? well luna rises the moon and her sister the other but im not sure but they say there mother rise the sun and moon befor them right . THE repliy said who rise the sun AND THE moon AND the stars thats what i think. the sisters only play one part only so im not sure
I KNOW WHO IT IS IF LUNA CONTROLS THE MOON AND CELESTIA CONTROLS THE SUN AND WHO CONTROLS THE STARS ITS FREAKING TWILIGHT SPARKLE LOOK AT HER CUTIE MARK I dont know if im right but I think its twilight sparkle
But two ponies have stars as cutie Marks twilight and shining armor but twilight is the princess of friendship so wut if she controls the stars or shinning armor I don't wut I'm thinking😭😭
Also who I think controlled the stars is well pinkie pie I mean she's like a pony vers of discord right so maybe alocorn or not what if it wasn't the tree that brout the mane 5 together what if it was pinkie pie think about it ever since pink saw the sonic rainboom she got he magic and happyness in her life but what about before when she wasn't happy
Ohh i know the real answer nightmare moon was the one the one grogar maybe true but maybe nightmaremoon/luna control grogar's chamber so grogar free her/nightmare moon to destroyed equstria remember that l the episode of begining of the end the about creatures running wild destroying equstria yeah maybe grogar did it . Remember cozy glow sucks magic that was grogar's chances to escape from the moon. Case close. Bro hoof
ron alex2020-06-04 02:53:28 (edited 2020-06-04 02:54:57 )
I think princess salestia did free luna bicous the criator seas who controls the stars... If the stars in our world is like fier bols what if they are eswell in the MLP world and princess salestia is capabe in contoling the sun what diference woud it be if she woud control the stars exept for it to be night
What if it's twilight she haves stars on her cutie mark and she can control the stars but she never new that she can release nightmare moon I was just guessing but I have another thing that can explain how the stars moved the tree of harmony it haves a star in the middle and released nightmare moon to let the 6 twilight sparkle pinkie pie rarity rainbow dash flutters shy and apple jack to become friends maybe maybe or it could be that old man I forgot his name the one who planted the tree oh and watched this video late bye love you all
Star's ar suns and hu haw a sunchin in The name Sunchinsimer and was a studen in princess chelestias class. Sooooooo if sunchan if she cant haw sun or moon then stats and then was she a villen. 🎆
So since celestia knew that twilly would make friends she knew discord would take the gamble with tirek and the others and she knew starswirl would come back so she went to limbo (can’t take that name seriously) and asked starsswirl in secret to control the stars (continuing to iistarxp) starswirl released nightmare moon and since celestia knew all the stuff that would happen she didn’t do anything welp that’s my theory >:3
Honestly it could have been Zecora! There is so little known about the Zebra lands and what powers they might possess. Zecora seems to always know what to do and why. Perhaps this is because she has visions or something similar to Celestia. It's possible that she and other Zebras chanted something and did some sort of magic, after all she does seem to have vudu stuff in her house so I wouldn't put it past her. (I don't know much about vudu so this could be completely wrong sorry.)
Ok but if she did do this with other Zebra then where are they? Well it's possible Zecora hadn't moved away from her home land quite yet, wait... Why DID she move?? Hmm let me think.... To keep an eye on twilight perhaps? Maybe because she in fact knew of her future?
Ok so say that zebras can possibly do this, how and why would she have visions anyway? Its said zebras live in a far away land, and seemingly very different. What if Star swirl and his team got the seed for the tree of harmony FROM ZEBRAS?! Think about it; they planted it but with what seed? From where?
My idea may be flawed but its at least worth considering.
I think the stars lining up and freeing Nightmare moon was none other than the tree of harmony! But Celestia also did play a role in this. She knew that the tree was doing this because she has a connection with the tree. That’s why she said she saw the signs of Luna’s return. Also, she has been waiting for 1000 years to find twilight who can control the element of magic! That’s why she made the school of magic. And somehow, she was psychically working with the tree and not knowing it but also knowing it!? ( sorry that’s a lot!!!!)
Well it’s either Luna controls the moon & the stars or there might be another alicorn princess that controls the stars that they never mentioned in the show!
One headcannon in fanfiction i liked was that Luna and Celestia do have the power to move stars, but moving both sun and moon Celestia could not spear the energy , and by the time Luna returns ponies have learned to use the stars as is, moving them would have been a problem.
I think I understand how Lauren Faust meant it and how Celestia did see the sign afterall. Celestia saying she saw the signs of Nightmare Moons return would not mean that she watched the stars move to aid in her return, I say Celestia did move them by her magic. The signs Celestia saw would be the young mane 6 growing up and being ready to deal with and reform Nightmare moon to be her little sister Luna again. Also we know Twilight was Celestias best student and Celestia always worked on preparing her to become the new leader of Equestria some day. So Celestia freeing Nightmare Moon to test Twilight and as next step on Twily's way to becoming a Princess is a logical step to take imo. And about that book Twilight read in episode 1: Who says that it wasnt Celestia who wrote that book to give it to her chosen student when they are ready to take on the task? :P
I can follow faust :3 since the sisters can control the sun and moon it makes sense that they might hold power over the stars specially Tia since the sun itself is a star
one of the animated episodes it shows that Celeste told Luna that she was going to raise the stars for her so Luna did it an And in a episode it’s said the that some of nightmare moons magic stayed so she can use that magic to aid the stars to her escape
Well, she asked who controls the moon and stars and technically Luna does but is there a possibility that she did it from outside the moon or before she got imprisoned?
What if Discord trapped in stone somehow gathered enough energy to release Nightmare Moon? Think of it like this. He controls reality and can change the land and the sky at will, so it would not be a stretch that after 1,000 years without Luna could have given him some control back. And he can hear so he would know what happened to Luna and Celestia being alone. It took both sisters to seal him and then the Mane Six to redo the spell, but what if having one be gone weakened the spell just a bit to allow him some magic. All he needed to do was wait for Chaos to come to him and release him from stone.
I think Celestia is telling a white lie: She saw the signs, as in, she recognized the unicorn that was fit to become her successor, and just in the time, the prophecy foretold. We know, that she later specified, that she knew Twilight needed other ponies with whom to wield the elements, and that's why she sent Twilight to Ponyville. In controlling the heavenly bodies, I think the stars are a part of that. I truly believe, that Celestia set Nightmare Moon free, because she knew, that the ponies, who could do, what she had been unable to, had emerged.
I think your right about Celestia, I believe that Celestia really let Nightmare Moon escape because as you can see in the comment of the creator of MLP he personally EMPHASIZES the ability that the pony have who let Nightmare Moon escape and It just lead to one pony and that is CELESTIA.
If the stars can be only seen at night but need the sun to be seen then a supporter of Luna and Celestia or a Protege of Luna and Celestia must be on the thrown also it must be an alicorn and that role could go to Flurry Heart or Twilight
i believe that Twilight Sparkle controls the stars. just at the time of the first episode Twilight doesn't know she does. Think about it, Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon, so why can't Twilight control the stars?
I think it's possibel that Celestia bringed back Nightmare Moon. I mean the creator said „who controls the sun, the moon and the stars?" and the sun is a star too.
remember the ram got trapped in the stars well maybe celestia managed to communicate with him and ask specifecly this “its time” also explains the fact when she said “i saw the signs”
I believe that no being caused the stars to align, and it was all through a calculation of astrology that determined that the pattern and Nightmare Moon's escape would happen after 1000 years. My proof: in the episode where Starlight Glimmer goes back and stops Rainbow Dash from preforming the Sonic Rainboom, the Mane 6 never met and never became friends. One of the times Twilight comes back to the present, Nightmare Moon was ruler of Equestria. Why would Celestia or the Tree of Harmony cause the stars to align and help Nightmare Moon escape if they know there would be no Mane 6 to stop her?
I KNOW! lets put some logic here The sun IS a "star" but its very close to us and we can see it clearly, so all the other millions of stars are suns. So my opinion is that celestia was always able to move the stars but she never did so they disappears at the day before sun gives ups light like the reality etc. so when she had to release nightmare moon she used those 4 stars. What do you think about my opinion?
I have a theory, Umm there was a official book published called the journal of the two sisters (yes that one) and in it it said that starswirl moved the stars, so maybe it was starswirl who released her?
I like to think it's either starswirl or it's sunset shimmer. It's easy to rule out starswirl because he was trapped in limbo but what about sunset? Her name kinda relates to the stars as when the sunsets there are shimmers in the sky. Sunset shimmer might've done this to over through Celestia or to win her over. Also, I think this explains her cutie mark, why it's a sun like Celestia's but not quite. This world may be mythological, but that doesn't mean that the science remains. They're still sun's, but different versions of their sun. So, in short, Celestia controls our sun's while sunset controlled the stars before going to the human world.
Okay so this might be a stupid theory but here goes, since Celestia has always been day and Luna night, I think that Luna has a part in NightMare Moons escape. She somehow saw that Celestia United the main 6 so she used her powers of night to use the stars in order to aid nightmare moons escape
this is my theory. while nightmare moon was on the moon, it studies how to move the star. then she wait's for the longest day of the year to escape. because i think thr four stars only appears on that day. #imnotreallysure
Why do I feel like it's starlight glimmer or stars swirl the bearded.I mean I just have a feeling that starlight glimmer is the 5th alicorn.And surely starswirl is powerful enough to control the stars.not forgetting he also tutored the sisters meaning he could have slight intention.We know starswirl was like a father or a mentor to the sisters.He could have decided luna had enough punishment for a sin her true self didn't even commit.Also a theory suggests that starswirl witnessed this fight between the sisters but didn't stop them cuz it was destiny and all.so do u agree? Also starlight must be an alicorn.She if my starswirl theory was wrong then she must be the Princess of stars.i mean all of the other ones are kinda occupied ya know. Sun,moon,love,friendship,and probably stars. Also I really need a season 10 or a u know... a continuation series.WHO AGREES?!!.THANK YOU FOR URGENT TIME AND PATIENCE EDIT:I just forgot he was in limbo but after all he isn't famous for nothin. Maybe he was so powerful he bent the rules of limbo?Or who said anything about no power in limbo, maybe u have power except it's not normal it's discord style maybe? I dunno do u think my theory is correct?
If the sun and moon were moved by celestia and luna and before that a powerful group of unicorns. But who were moving these two celestial objects before that time frame? If nothing were moving them, then something must have happened to let them have lost that power to move by themselves, but the stars have not lost that power. So what power has the stars have to be able to move be themselves and not with magic power?
Shanessa:I'm pretty sure it was twilight because the sun is a star and her dad's cutie mark is a christen moon. If someone had one of these ideas just know we had the same idea
I think the reason why Celestia ‚helped‘ her sister out of the moon was..
First theory: it was something like Luna was grounded? Or... second theory: celestia is the queen and she knows everything about her kingdom and so she did it on purpose because she knew twilight was ready and found her magic I mean I can’t explain but isn’t that just orfjjoejedjkwjhfkjeckhdckjd she found her friends and that is the magic she needed for the elements to trigger 🤷🏼♀️
Guys I think I kind of get it going to the fact he thought of the tree of Harmony did it could be the Twilights came the tree set her free to see if they were the right one to rule Equestria
I have a my little pony game were you can get the ponies and you can get the princesses and when you click Celestia it says “Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria,responsible for raising the sun,moon, and STARS” but this was a long time ago before they changed it so I hope this is helpful.
Remeber, we dont know who Celestia and Luna'a parents are. If Celestia is the princess of of her worlds star then there could be a possibility there are other ponies who look after other stars. Remeber Earth is the only place we've found that can be habitable naturally without implantation. Equestria is Earth in their world. So in other galaxies their could be a possibility there are ponies who make sure those stars do what they do. Keep their galaxies in line, keep balance in the universe, create new planets due to the gravitational pull and cause gasses or plants to combine making new ones. And most stars are made up of star dust, the remnants of past stars. The moon was made of debri from when Earth was first being made. Hence so, they have to have a relitive that would allow Luna to be the Moon Princess instead of a star like Celestia. So perhaps their mom is another star? And their dad/partner is a meator creature? That's why Celestia knew about the signs with the stars, shes made of the remnants of past stars, so why cant see be able to communicate in some way with past stars? All stars are connected. So maybe she could even communicate with present stars that set Luna free? Maybe the tree of harmony is made of left over star dust that couldnt be manifested into a host. So it absorbed into a tree and became the tree of harmony, so latching onto brony notions theory, it could know and was able to set in motion the elemants of harmony. (This is minor and isnt important.) With prince blueblood, he is their nephew. So they need a sibling to be able to give them a nephew. But if their sun and moon how could they have a son? And why would his name be blueblood that doesnt fit the theme of the princesses? Their sibling could be the pony that keeps nature alive. Like plants and stuff. And itd fit the theme because Luna imade of debri. That made the earth. Making Celestia the oldest the missing sibling the middle child and Luna the youngest. Prince bluebloods name has nothing to do with plants it seems but remeber nature made the first little parasites that turned into our animalls now with the cambrian explosion and stuff. So he could very well just be a simple prince representing what his mother made. He is simply just there to observe and report back to his mother whom Im guessing is floating around Earth/Equestria.
Maybe Luna freed herself?? Think about it, stars only appear at night, which is when Luna does her part in being a princess. Another example : If you look at the dream world, where Luna can walk into any dream, the paths are made of stars, and she can walk on the star-paths. So, she could have just used the stars to get out of the moon
Since twi becoming the mane six member was her destiny than celestia did this she plan to release nightmare moon to bring the mane six together since she can't do it because she tried bu she just put her on the moon and she knows that the mane six control the elements of harmony so she can't
Hold on..... What will happen to the counselling a friendship after twilight's friends die? Because don't normal ponies tend to die quicker then Alicorns? .-_-.
It could be twilight becuase she has no exact role of controlling anything.sure she is the princess of friendship but it could be more to here abillitys than just friendship
I think that celestia did control the stars, because maybe in the day the makes the stars disappear and everybody knows that she missed her sis... but I guess that would make her a liar... she does has some secrets anyway... so why just not deep that a secret? And also she went away somewhere whe nightmare moon came back, and maybe she needed to be somewhere private to move the stars because it had a lot of power and some guard would have noticed. Idk... what do you think?
But Luna is the princess of the night so even though Celestia couldn’t control the night she still sung a lullaby to Luna every night for the past 1000 years could she give luna enough power to still control the night with the moon and starts but enough to escape her sisters trapping spell but with the that particular night being what’s considered a powerful one have given Luna enough power combined with her anger have given help in her escape and able to come back and seek revenge on her own sisters blindness in not realising that luna’s work for a making such a beautiful night for them to enjoy but they just slept through it instead like it was irrelevant to them It’s just my theory
Tbh celestia is the right way because it makes sense. She wanted to her sister back and when she knew there was a mane 5 and sending twilight would help so it just makes sense for celestia seeing as the tree of harmony didn't have the elements at that time
I think Luna freed her self,cause remember the time when applejack said granny used to tell her not alll nightmaremoons magic was gone I think that was the group of stars
Well I know I am late to answer but celestia Maybe waited until someone was able to change her sister back not banishing her so and when nightmare moon it wasn't long after twilight came to pony vel so celestia was one of the pony's who know so it is just my thoughts
I know who control the stars it’s Starlight Starlight or Twilight at Starlight or toilet because they have started cutie marks Veranda totally speaking but not the life she has like a blue stone medium or something and Twilight go to many stars that’s why she should be
I think that the old ruler of the crystal empire we didn't really get much of the crystal empire past before king sobra took over or there could be the princess of distraction
Or it's possible that Nightmare Moon set herself free, since Celestia can raise the sun and moon, wouldn't it make sense that Luna could raise the sun? So as time passed, the magic holding her on the moon got weaker, and she was eventually able to free herself. Or Celestia was reinvigorating the spell each day/year at the sSummer Sun and when she found twilight, she stopped reinvigorating it, waiting for the spell to wear off, allowing nightmare moon to escape.
I mean, it DOES happen on the summer sun, so Celestia just. Didn't do anything. She always saw these signs, every year, but each year she prevented it UNTIL twiilight and her future accomplices were found and able to be brought together. This year, she just didn't stop anything. She didn't release or promote anyone's escape, so she would have seen the signs as well as anyone, without doing anything. But she knew that the true elements of Harmony would have a more permanent fix, as well as bringing back her sister.
She may have also known, 1000 years ago, what to look for in the bearers of the elements, and written that book herself. So she would have known when it would be time to let the spell holding moon die.
I think Princess Celestia did it because she knew that Princess Twilight can do it but she had to find out so she did that I think she's cuckoo or she was sleepwalking or Nightmare Moon took control of her body
DUH ITS MAGIC THE MOON MIGHT HAVE BEEN MOVING AND NOT THE STARS OR IT MUST HAVE PULLED THE STARS TOWARDS IT AND WHO WAS IN THE MOON LUNA AND TECHNICALLY ITS MAGIC! EQUASTERIA ISNT IN EARTH ITS IN A COMPLETE DIFFERENT GALAXY CAUSE FOR ONCE NO AIR IN SPACE HOW COULD SHE BREATH !
Edit: I feel like this goes somewhere sense Twighlight helped Luna and Celestia raise the sun and set the moon in season 9 and the stars are smaller than the moon and sun, and Twighlight is shorter than Luna and Celestia. But it doesn’t make much sense but it fits somewhere :>
If that mane six defeated nightmare moon with the elements of harmony why didn’t nightmare moon become Princess Luna when Princess celestial used the elements of harmony
I think luna free her self think obout it we only see stars when the moon rises which mean luna is kinda controlling the stars so she is the queen of stars so to speak and she said to her dear freinds when she was traped GET ME OUT OF HERE and they listen to there queen and free her
Maybe it was night mare moon bc she Co trols the night and what is with the night? THE STARS so that means Luna/nightmare moon controlled the stars and uses them to open the door to the pony world ist that obvious nobody but nightmare moon or Luna did it with her last power Luna controls the night the night has stars so it could mean that Luna freed nightmare moon so she gets help from the fried s of equrestria or???
I'm going to correct you on that Luna in what episode the episode the episode but video call far away it's Celestia and Luna singing the Stars Luna says I have to do the stars to is the first time that you've raised the Moon in the in one video the fall in the fall of the Crystal Empire Celeste this is the first time we ever see Nightmare Moon in a video Goosebumps actors about Nespresso she says to the person to King Sombra the same power you were the same power you were gifted with the same power I was in born with so why would it just stopped at the Moon why did have the Moon is Darth 2 do yes learn does control the Stars
Please sun is a star....... if you know Luna....wait a minute does that mean .........can star swirl be controlling stars....till now because no one was there..... make a video about theories who might control stars......there is huge confusion maybe star swirl is strong enough to control....THE STARS .....maybe just a theory
ok, I know it's late but 0:42 or 45 what if starlight glimmer or twilight controlled the stars? think of it starlight glimmer and twilight have the star mark... I am confused but another is cadences husband he also has a star mark...
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Luna's mom if you thont know Luna's mom you thont know her name well if you thont know her name well her name is ...... Queen galaxia in galaxy ther r stars so luna 's mom freed Luna 🌙⭐🌌
Wait Who controls the stars? Isn’t that Twilight’s Sparkles CUTIE MARK? STARSssssss!?! Just a theory I made ;) Edit sorry I just scrolled through the comments and saw someone with the same idea as me ;-:
I think is who controls the stars and maybe toilet because if she is to visit friendship she might have controlled the whole friendship even are you tomorrow is the star
What if the Pokemon GOD Arceus set Luna free or even the Pokemon of death did it yes I mean yveltal or maby the got of transformers primus did it UvU we will never know
Idk why bit i think starswirl controls the stars bahahahaha. I cant watch all of the mlp episodes so idk. I want starlight to be the princess of stars butttttttt nope.
Know one sorry bro but didn't you know stars move over years and it has been 1000 years of nightmare moons vagueness thing and that's along time so the 4 stars might of moved over knowing that cellestea knew as a lot of people know this fact I think any way still love your thinking but we still need to thing in knowledge and things that can happen in the move and in real life so think about it and make a video about your thinking now that I've told you
No I didn’t have time for a long day and I didn’t know you had a good time and I’m sure you’re going to have a good time with your family or friends or whatever else I can do to you guys
I know selestia did it so twilite can learn friensip she did not wan friend and we all know thet twilite can not do it alone to bit nite mare moon she need friend to bit her but selestia know thet she dont want them so
Why do they yeah it's only say the small words they don't talk very much just like the guy that says yep I don't remember what his name is in My Little Pony
That's actually a good question I always assume that whoever was controlling the main celestial bodies could control the stars as well but maybe just maybe while Luna is controlling the move someone else is controlling the night.
Right in the last episode (I think) the three villains took discords magic, after wards they tried to use the magic. We can see how that went out, Cozy glow went absolutely crazy. Tirek then said that "no one can use discords magic" but when we first met tirek he betrayed discord and took his magic. He didnt go crazy so why couldnt he do it again. And when we first met him he took it straight from him, does the bell do something to the magic to make it impossible to use?
I know this could just be bad writing but I think it is still rather interesting
Like you said that Grogar actually turned into the constellation Aries (love that theory btw), what if the other constellations like Scorpio cancer or Virgo were actually people banished into the stars? Maybe even people who are famous in the equestrian history that died and now formed in constellations. Hell they can even be the pillars of Equestria. I like the idea of beauty being Virgo. And how every event that takes plays has six character, example the student six and pillars of equestria. And we AND Equestria have 12 astrological constellations.
I'm inclined to believe it was Celestia. Remember, Lauren Faust wrote the two episodes. The pilot episode(s), as in "the episode where not every idea is fully fleshed out and a solid canon doesn't quite exist yet." I think it's entirely possible that the original idea of Princess Celestia was the ruler of Equestria that controlled, get this, the celestial bodies. It was only decided later that Celestia exclusively gets the sun and Luna, the moon. When that decision happened, I can't say, but I would guess it happened after the conception of the character Princess Celestia, otherwise her name would be something more specific to the sun, just like how Princess Luna is the Lunar princess. So why not rework the episode? Maybe it was already in production and no one wanted to start over. But, more importantly, even if they wanted to rework the script, how much would it really affect? A few lines at the beginning and/or end of the episode? I would say it wasn't worth it, because the pilot wasn't about how Nightmare Moon was banished and some cosmic scheme to release her, it was about the six main characters becoming friends.
Exactly 1000 years to the day is quite the coincidence, especially considering it matches an ancient prophesy (which I'm pretty sure Celestia wrote). I think that Nightmare Moon wasn't released, the spell simply ended. Celestia and the Tree knew when the spell would end because they were the ones who cast it and were indirectly working together to prepare.
I got a good question that piped into my mind. Why don’t unicorns have magic related cutie marks. Entire families like applejack’s have cutie marks related to farming, entire teams of Pegasus make up the Wonderbolts. Why rarely do unicorns have cutie marks relating to magic?
Okay, if Celestia had had visions and known everything about Twilight's destiny, she wouldn't have been so freaked out when she knew she had to send her away in the first place. Look at the beginning of season 7. Perhaps the tree was behind of all of this all along
The stars kind of look like their in the shape of a compass at some points so maybe something similar to the Chinese myth of the four symbols with sometimes includes a fifth: the azure dragon of the east, the vermilion bird of the south, the white tiger of the west, the black tortoise of the north, and the yellow dragon of the center. Though, I’m not sure the animals that represent the five areas would have that much power if they were to exist in Equestria
In episode 3 it’s mentioned that Celestia has a nephew and it can’t be Luna’s because she’s been in the moon for a thousand years and Prince Blue-Blood is not an alicorn which means he doesn’t live forever. So unless Luna adopted him as soon as she was released, there might be a third sister here. We’ve got the princess of the sun, the princess of the moon, and... the princess of the stars. This third princess could be in space, closer to the stars, which could be why we never see her, but she could have been the one to release Luna. She could have been up there just keeping Luna company for all I know.
Maybe the pony controlling the stars is and was always Star Swirl you can see it in his name and cutie mark. Even when he was banished in the limbo he could probably do stuff with the equestrian world in the same way that Discord kinda did when he disguised himself as Grogar and freed Tirek from another dimension (Aka tartarus). The gaps are filled and I can't personally think of any other explanation about what's going on with the stars.
When Luna has a child. Her child will probably play her part. Ya know.... walk in dreams. Celestia and Luna's Child will rule the day and night while Twilight rules the whole land and ranked at a higher level.
It could, like he stated in a previous video, have been Celestia and Luna's parents. Maybe their mother or father had control over the stars like Luna could control the moon and Celestia the sun. But the sun is technically a star, therefore Celestia could have control over them, but I highly doubt that for the same reasons stated in the video. Grogar could still be the force behind it. Being a ram he could very well have been the constellation Ares which is usually represented by 4 or 5 stars, like the ones that released Nightmare Moon. Though I do like the theory that the Elements (AKA the Spirit of The Elements (Spirit of Harmony)) was the one to release Luna. Ever since the pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, the only ones who could wield them were Celestia and Luna, but they couldn't use them to the same degree the Mane 6 could. When they used the Elements (which brought them together and were represented as their cutie marks) they could do thing Celestia and Luna couldn't, at least as far as we know. The Spirit of Harmony could very well have been waiting for the Mane 6 to come together so Nightmare Moon could be released and reformed back into Luna. If the Elements could have reformed Nightmare Moon so easily, why didn't Celestia do it herself? I believe that only the Mane 6 had this ability, like their ability, even without true magic as they knew it, were able to use the Elements to defeat Tyric only using the power/magic of friendship. The Elements had to be wielded by the Mane 6 in order to reform Luna from Nightmare Moon. Either one of these theories could be true. Their parents wanting to free their daughter after seeing her trapped in the moon for a millennia. Grogar wanting to free his fellow Mistress of Darkness and Fear. Or the Spirit of Harmony freeing her to set forth the defeat of many villains leading to two different trees coming from its ruin. Twilight's Crystal Castle, and the Students Crystal Tree after the Spirit of Harmony itself tested them. But it would be interesting if there was a third sister, one who controlled the stars. Which leads to the questions, what would she look like, what would her name be, why haven't we seen her, and if she did exist, where is she and what happened to her? I say her since the only appearance of a male Alicorn we have seen was during the dreams where Big Mac took the form of an Alicorn. We have no proof of other Alicorns existing besides Celestia and Luna and the ones they created being Cadence and Twilight (Not counting Flurry since Celestia stated she has never seen an Alicorn actually being born the way they are and Luna saying that this is something not even they knew was possible). If a third sister existed, what would have been her motive to free Nightmare Moon from her prison? Nightmare Moon was a tyrant and a villain, what good would come of freeing her? Unless the third sister was also evil and that's why she is never mentioned or referenced. She could have somehow escaped imprisonment like the kind that befell Nightmare Moon. If so, what is her plan, where is she hiding, and how would she play into the grand scheme of things? We know that Luna's opposite form was Nightmare Moon and Celestia's is Daybreaker. We also know both names play into their roles of controlling the Sun and Moon respectively, but what would their sibling's name have been as well as their opposite forms name........ I got real off topic here but maybe you could create a video from the sibling theory.... I doubt you'll actually read this though seeing how long it is but who knows.
I think I know who did... It was their mother. Although it only shows their parents once, it appears their mother has something to do with the galaxy and the STARS! After all, the sun and moon are just part of the galaxy. Their parents aren’t a part of the story, and are never shown, but it never said they were dead. They could’ve simply retired, just like Luna and celestia did. But you could be wondering, “why didn’t they get freed sooner then?” And here’s my answer. The world wasn’t ready, and more importantly, celestia wasn’t ready. If nightmare moon was freed any sooner, the mane 6 wouldn’t have been ready to fight her, leaving celestia to fight on her own. But of she was freed any later, she would’ve been to strong for them to handle. Soon after she was freed, other villains began attacking, and that would’ve weakened them to the point it would be easy for nightmare moon to take over. Besides, they needed Luna to help them if they were to win against the other villains. I’m guessing that their parents knew this, and freed her at just the right point in time for the rest of equestria to be set on its safest route.
i have a question and that no one in the fandom ever asked or thought of it. What was Discords Plan in S9, what was he gonna do with the bewitching bell? or did he plan to get his power drained so twilight can save the day? who knows thats why im commenting this on you. But im very very curious what discord had plan with the bewitching.
Yes, the sun is a star but those four things couldn't have had any significant influence on the moon if they were stars. My theory was and is that those four things are not stars but some other animate entities that helped nightmare moon, possibly linked to whatever turned her into nightmare moon.
And seeing all the EQ movies and how equestrian magic "corrupts" it's users and how Luna seems so out of character in those scenes and how she looks shocked right before turning into NM.... I think Luna had the least influence over what is going on.
In Faust's tweet, she says, "And who controls the sun and the moon and the stars...?" This is a big indicator that all those three things can be controlled. Maybe they have to be controlled by Luna and Celestia in order for them to move, but only Celestia was in charge of both day and nighttime, so she could control the stars as well to set Nightmare Moon free. Plus, for Celestia saying she "saw the signs" of Nightmare Moon's return, she most likely said that as to not lose the trust of her subjects, and most of all, Twilight Sparkle. Celestia was so calm about it all. And why would the stars release Nightmare Moon right as Twilight was looking at them? Celestia must have known about that, and released her right then and there.
You should do a theory of why Luna’s color pallet changed from season 1 to what we see now. It wasn’t just her hair that got flow-y and changed, it was her body color too. We don’t see that with Tailight when she becomes a princess with flowing hair at the end of the show. And I wonder if Celestia had a color change too?
Well I mean...whether it makes sense or not, Faust is hinting that it was Celestia..that was no one else controlling the sun and moon but her alone.
I don't think it makes sense because the prophecy doesn't sound like a self-fulfilling prophecy, it sounds like agents working outside Celetia's control.
If that's the way Faust intended it, well, early episodes indicate Celestia was always suppose to be a troll, but obviously in later seasons she became more of a push-over (which I don't like). Celestia being a troll makes her look competent and calculated which would make her a strong leader.
I don't think it really makes her a liar if she said she saw the signs, especially if she wrote the signs...but then that would mean she has some incredible foresight, 1000+ years worth of foresight, that makes her almost god-like. And isn't she suppose to be some kind of deity?
In any case, having worked some of this out, it doesn't look that far fetched anymore. But I don't know for sure yet.
Honestly I think Faust was referencing a higher power. Celestia controls the sun. She's not supposed to control the moon, and noone really controls the Stars. As far as I'm aware, it's never mentioned that Celestia controlled the stars, she raised and lowered the sun and moon, that's it. So while I don't think it's Harmony that did it, I do think it was a higher power that isn't Celestia. No, not Discord, and I definitely don't think it's Grogar (How would he even control the stars, even if he was made of them?). Maybe it's a reference that Celestia and Luna did have a mother and father relating to sky and earth like in Maori legend, or other legends as well. Two beings that controlled - or even were - the very earth and the very sky. Or maybe simply one. Fausticorn, anyone? The wink makes me think it's a troll, or that she is referencing Fausticorn. As you said, J.K. Rowling has made similar amusing and downright silly tweets. They have to be taken with a grain of salt.
On one of your previous videos about the elements of disharmony and is they existed they would mean things but I think they would be the opposite of the element of harmony so the would be kindness-mean honesty-lier generosity-selfifness loyalty-disloyalty laughter-unhappines and the magic well I guess dark magic I think this cus in the episode the mean six and discord return it says this
Honestly, It makes perfect sense why celestia would free nightmare moon. I don't think that the only reason why she did it was because she wanted to test Twilight and the mane six. Sure, that most likely play a part in it, but I think the biggest reason is because she wanted her sister back. And she knew the mane six where the only ones who could "save" Luna.
I believe, Celestia knew that Twilight will exist and she set the timeing just for her. How did she know? Why exacly 1000 years? That has something to do with the Tree of Harmony. Or does it? The Tree arranges everything, does it? Or the tree is just the part of a grater machine? Let's start the story in a more ancient time. When the 3 types of ponys got united. The moment when the magic of friendship was born. From that moment it started to grow, it united the aciend mane6, but it wasn't perfect. Their elements are important, but more self-orianted elements. They're important too, the Crusaders still do this finding yourself ways and it's represented by the cutie marks. Since the elements as jewelerrys turn cutie-mark shaped, we can clearly say that cutie-marks has a lot to do with friendsip. Than the Pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, but with Stigeon they weren't really friendly. That was a big mistake in the system. Than the tree grew, more friendship-related elements, the elements of harmony came alive. Celestia on her own couldn't use them to reform Nightmare Moon, but another banishment happened. That was the second mistake in the system. But when the mane6 came, they used the elements seperatly, as friends, so they had more power. We can see "the magic of friendship grow" in the entire series and after. It reformes a lot of villians, empires return, creatures get friendlyer, reformes kingdoms, gets to other dimentions. And she knew that in a 1000 years the magic of friendship will grow enough to reform Nightmare Moon. Was it a vision or did she study this magic and calculated it? Somehow she did know it.
Separate Theory I've kept flopping back on. the 7th element. Hear me out. Referring to the Pillars, the Mane 6, and the Mane 6 Equestria Girls. Each one tends to bring on a 7th AFTER the 7th was a villain, the Pillars had Stygian, Mane 6 has Starlight, and EG has Sunset/Twilight. There IS a 7th element, Forgiveness/Redemption. While Stygian WAS a part of the pillars before becoming the pony of shadows, he wasn't really close to them, like a friend, until after the Mane 6 helped him realize his mistake and the Pillars forgave him/Stygian's redemption (Forgiveness fits better). Starlight is more obvious, with Twilight forgiving her for nearly destroying the timeline and she redeems herself by being helpful all around and eventually helping with friendship problems before taking over as headmare of the school of friendship. EG is a little trickier, as it's harder to determine the 7th there, but I would say it ends up as Sunset. Since EG is supposed to mirror FiM, it would make sense that Sunset is the Starlight of EG, down to the similar names (Starlight Glimmer/Sunset Shimmer). Sunset was the first to be shown forgiveness by FiM's Twilight and the EG rest of mane 6 (and EG Twilight's Geo was magic, with Sunset's being mindreading/insight). I feel you could add more to this than I can.
Also Wavy Hair is Related to a female pony's magic, Older Twilight, Celestia, Luna, Mistmane and most likely Gusty the Great. When Celestia/Luna were without magic like the end of season 9 and Tirek, their hair stopped flowing. Also when Twilight had Celestia's, Luna's, and Cadence's magic, her mane would flash the Flowy way, as well as during the season 9 vanquishing of Sombra and the Legion of Doom/Crystalis, Terik, and Cozy. Just a mini-theory added to the hair flowing thing. Obviously Mistmane and Gusty would have the flowing hair since Gusty would have had to be very powerful to lock up the bell and Mistmane was an original Pillar.
i'm assuming star swirl perhaps i mean it kind of makes sense because he has star in his name and does have some pretty strong magic also correct me if i'm wrong but i think he can also see the future
What if the stars were controled by nightmare moon herself? Sure, Luna controls the night and moon while nightmare moon control nightmares, however, Luna controls the night as much as the moon because the moon's one of the reasons there's night, and since nightmare moon is controling Luna, maybe she tried to move the stars. And I think that's where the tree of hamony played the part. I think it made it so that the four stars would be at the same position until Twillight and her friends came along. What I find interesting, is Twillight's cutie mark. Sure it resembles magic, but it shows like stars, maybe she did it, unknowing of course. Maybe, the tree of hamony was using Twillight. But, who knows.
Error how does one control the stars? Remember the star spiders. Who would want NMM to return? Who would want to build a statue of NMM? Who would write a magic book and leave it in a place that only a dragon or an alicorn could get to? Does it seem like some mysterious actor is spending a lot of time and effort around the castle of the two sisters?
I think that Sunset Shimmer was the one who released the Nightmare Moon, cause how would she know about Nightmare's Moon defeat and about the elements of harmony ? Cause she had to bee a very long time in Equestrian high to learn how to be a human... And when Twilight camed to Equestrian high, you can clearly see Sunset Shimmer's pictures in Celestia's office... And in the episode when Sunset and others defeated and destroyed the memory stone, you can clearly hear her says: "this isn't Equestria, princess Celestia, what is this thing ? Somepony help..." And we all know that Sunset was old Celestia's student, soo she is gone for a very long time... and actually It makes sense... Sunset was the most gifted unicorn of all, but when Sunset waned more power and to become an alicorn, Celestia refused... soo... maybe that was Sunset's revange ? I honestly don't know... but what do you guys think ? Tell me if you think that this is correct or not
Actually it should be a different pony. The tree would notice the change in destiny and keep Nigthmare Moon locked, and i am pretty sure Celestia was counting with a pupil not just destiny so i doubt that she would release her without a pupil and without the sonic rainbow i can't think of anypony capable of becoming her pupil. But afterwards Lauren said to don't believe in everything she say.
I think star swirl played the largest role as his name is STARswirl and I think similar to how celesta and Luna control the sun and moon, starswirl could control some of the stars. One could also interpret Lauren Faust's comment as saying that star swirl since it is much easier to see him controlling the stars and one could say that he controls the sun and stars has he was Celestia and Luna's teacher's before he left and he and a few other unicorns raised the sun and in a royal problem it is stared that it is easier to raise the moon with luna's magic then to raise the sun with Celestia's magic.
What if the stars were Starswirl or something putting it as a background spell or something slowly merging around the moon over a thousand years and Celestia just asked him to
Maybe when she cast the spell it only lasted so long. She didn't know that when she casted the spell but technically she did release her because there was a time limit on the spell.....?
What if twighhlight accidentally released nightmare moon after reading the story of nightmare moon and celestial saw the sights and sent twighlight to defeat nightmare
I am not claiming to be canon, but the Gameloft game of MLP describes her that she controls the stars too. Maybe they let it slip in the dialogs and as it would be weird they ignored but added it ib the game.
I just realize something. Go back to the artificial and non-artificial Alcorns maybe you were wrong about which ones are artificial I think flurry is the real one and all the rest are artificial
I really like the idea of the Tree of Harmony controlling the events leading up to the Return of Nightmare Moon. It makes sense. But as you said earlier in the video, it is possible that Celestia had to wait for new Element Bearers to show up.
wait how did the tree control everything in ep 1 if it was dying?
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M O N O K U M A2020-04-18 02:03:58 (edited 2020-04-18 02:05:31 )
I have held back on this but what if Celestia had an Older sister?I have seen comics about it and maybe she ruled the stars?But Celestia lied to Luna about her,and this is where betrayal comes in and Their older sister tries to manipulate Luna with the lies Celestia told her to keep her safe?I got this theory from the comics (Princess Trixie Sparkle) and a Animatic called ’Sorrowful Regretful’ and didn’t know if it could mean something.
theres a scene in the gala song where celestia is jumping from one cloud to another, and stars are moving behind her noticebly, so I dont know if that means anything
Hi Brony Notion!! Just want to know how come in the first season of mlp, Luna's hair was still a simple straight mane but during the battle of discord that happened a thousand years ago, her mane was then wavy?? After a few more episodes, it then became wavy again??
Well luna turning into nightmare moon wasn't all bad. Think about it, when she was released from the moon she was sad because of nightmare night but there really was no reason to. She now gets to copyright claim nightmare night for that night and every other nightmare night that happened over the past 1000 years. Sure it might make equestria go bankrupt but since luna has the night shift she doesn't have to deal with the angry protesters😀.
I think twilight sparkle alined the stars the reson behind my theory is her cutemark . The 4 stars sounding the big perpil one are the exact same as the ones that allowed Nightmare moon's escape what do you think ???? SPISIPHIKLY the bronenation
I don't think Celestia was the one that released Nightmare Moon I think it's Twilight Sparkle because of her cutie mark, isn't a star and Twilight Sparkle must be the one that could control the stars
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Christina Falk2020-04-17 18:16:43 (edited 2020-04-17 18:20:34 )
Who controls the stars... I was thinking that twilight set this whole thing up to make here look good. Or of course it could have star light wanting to get another evil force on here side. Or it might have been STARSWIRL! Of course I know he's in limbo but hes a powerful wizard so maby he had enough power to let nightmare moon out of here prison? You can never know with these kind of things
Question 101: while making ur video about how Star Swirl created Alicorns u said that to become an Alicorn a pony had to create new magic,but only unicorns can make magic so can only unicorns become alicorns or do Pegasuses and Earth ponies do something else? :)
it was luna BECAUSE well she controls the moon and the stars only show when the moon is out so the stars might have there own mind or something and the stars think they should free luna so yes she sent her to the moon but the stars might have a mind of its own and set luna free
This still doesn't change the fact that Celestia orchestrated the fates of the Mane 6 with her own trials in order to test them but this came into cost of focusing there Kingdom on the heroes instead of having suitable Aid to help them on Quest they know they need help with; & it's the lack of improvement & Leadership that kead to Repeated Instances where Equestria was Invaded or in Turmoil yet got worse before the 6 resolved the problem. And people wonder why I'm truly Loyal to Princess Flurryheart.
Maybe it is celestia why wasn't she thier then maybe she was trying to test twilight like you said she has visions so maybe she was doing test becuase she saw she would make a great princess with her friends by her side and celestia did control the moon sun and stars so it could be possible
i think faust was only half true while the rest is you correct theory as the tree used celestia just not as a literal mind controlled puppet if anything i think grogar was given the chance to learn from his mistakes from the sky by aiding the tree in bringing nightmare moon back and after that grogar learned from all the mane 6 lessons and saw the error of his ways meaning that once the comics come out grogar will be the one to reveal celestia set nightmare moon free because he and harmony herself told her too meaning that harmony may have existed inside twilight and wanted to make sure she became twilight just like how pinochio finale become a real boy harmony probably wanted to become a real pony not just any pony, twilight herself and chose grogar of all creatures to help guide twilight meaning grogar was a reformed jimminy cricket for twilight not celestia or discord
Omg twilight controls the stars cause y would she have "star" in her name so technically twilight released nightmare moon and btw proof in 1st episode she was using her horn while looking at night mare moon u can hear it if u listen closely and grogar is still trapped in stars cause remember discord pretended to be grogar so yea
What if celestia planned this howl thing?!?! And then also set discord free not when the cmc’s argued and then gave him the elements and also set free all the other villains for other tests for the main 6 and what if Luna was still doing the dreams just not able to get off the moon (I mean that she went into sin butt’s dreams) 🤔 (I confuse things a lot don’t blame u if u don’t understand)
I am not sure it's the tree because idk what season but we learn that the tree was dying ( maybe been a long time since I watched it ) and because of that I am not sure if the tree had that much power to tell Celestia or give Celestia the vision of what would happen or have the power to free luna also saying that the tree only gained power once twilight and her friends gave up the jewels so again the tree didnt have that much power so it could have used power it had gained and stored to use to help Celestia see what would happen or to free luna but this is just a thought
so i have an idea what if for "watch the season over who controls the sun the moon and the stars?" sure celestia at the time was doing all of it but here is my idea.. what if it was discord? he aided in here escape cuz sure we was frozen but what if his magic could now only help other villains escape? I mean hes discord right? so it makes sense if the magic anyone uses to turn him to stone will freeze him and "take away his magic" well no discord means chaos right? so chaos is like no harmony well because at the time the tree of harmony was waiting to grow well having no harmony means discord so im thinking discord is the reason she escaped because sure the stone frezzed him and all but where did his magic go? Because the tree of harmony was never there for a LONG LONG time before twilight and her friends grew it again but with that harmony discord just got stronger and stronger. Now going from this how would simple stone that easily broke in after time hold so much magic? Well I think the stone can hold HIM from escaping and his magic from breaking down the city towns and stuff, BUT can't hold him from HELPING see harmony is basically helping and love and stuff right? well see helping he IS helping but not in the way he should of see thats so important to my theory now i'm not saying this is 100% right BUT im not saying its wrong cuz to me this makes sense anyways lets continue so discord was helping nightmare moon escape until she reformed now this next part idk if it makes 100 100% sense but what if he used so much magic to brake her free that his magic was running low but just enough to help her stay strong UNTIL the main 6 came and used the elements of harmony now going from your theory in the past the element and the tree of harmony are STRONGER then discord so him using to much magic to free nightmare moon means he dose not have enough with her magic and his magic to fight back the element meaning they reformed nightmare moon! Now sorry for this being so long but we are almost done (you can 100% use this theory for a video if you want) anyways time to continue so now think about this sure the stone was made by the elements and celestia BUT what if now this is an idea i love but what IF discord just had enough magic to control celestia into helping out now going a bit by your theory the stars dont move thats correct BUT what if it had a bit to do with celestia now im thinking that the stars leave the sky from celestia once the sun is in place like think we never rlly see the stars in the same place right? so what if celestia moves them once the sun is in place cuz if the stars leave the sky while the moon is leaving it will be REALLY dark! So! Celestia moves them like i said AFTER the sun is out! Now lets say this is wrong! Well that CAN be 100% right BUT i'm thinking discord maybe made celestia do it by controlling her body for 3 mins now celestia saw with her own eyes that the stars aided in her escape but the reason she said that is she technically did not help that was discord doing that now that MAKES SENSE cuz celestia is not one to really lie right? so shes not lying here cuz like i said tech it WAS discord right? Again im sorry for this being long but im almost almost done. now the "No One's Ever Really Gone..." See what if now that discord was out what if he helped make ALL the villain A. Turn Make Evil For A Season to "Test" Princess Twilight And Her Friends? So Or B. The rest of the reformed villains did not change back but he JUST let out the ones that were in prisoned now im ALSO talking in tarterus! Ok Ok Now I'll leave the rest to you but i deff think this IS worth exploring maybe in parts but I personally will be prob doing a video on this on my channel i worked so hard on this idea and piecing together was so much fun! I'm still missing so so much but this is worth exploring!
Hey brony here's my theory,Luna set nightmare moon free. Luna are two different ponys even tho they share the same body. Their like siameze twins share a body but are two different people. And it says " on the longest night" and Luna controls the moon which controls night. Luna knew that in a 1000 years the elements of harmony would be found and so would the pony to control them, so I think Luna set nightmare moon free. Just my theory tho I hope you see this
I Am Confused that twilight was so shoked when Celestia said that Luna was her sister. in the begining of friendship is magic part 1 twilight read about it in a book ?
I think at the beginning I believed twilight was the princess of stars but I figured that Luna was princess of moon and stars I saw nightmare moon at the beginning at 1 episode so. Nightmare moon let herself out from the control of the stars and I figured 4 stars are Luna, Celistia, Twilight, and cadence maybe nightmare moon gotten they’re magic some how she might’ve gotten out. The harmony’s chosen Aj, Rainbow dash, Twilight sparkle, Fluttershy, Rarity, I think that’s all of the ponies. Then all of the ponies got chosen deafted nightmare moon then after som eps I think celistia letted Luna out it wasn’t a thousand years she probably learned her lesson.
Have you ever noticed that sunset shimmer doesn't have a duplicate which means she is a pony from equestria and there was no duplicate there so is she a changeling that would explain her powers that she had and when she turned into a demon she was a student of Chelstia so that's how she found the portal but why steal the crown how did she know their was magic in it
In the game My littel pony the description of Luna is( ruling over the Moon and star ) if celestia rise the moon in place of her sister when she was on the moon sow of course she can move the star to
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Ash The Wierdo2020-04-08 12:41:52 (edited 2020-04-08 12:42:11 )
0:56 Did she really say that? That theu fertilize the ground? 😊🤣
Hai I have some more questions here so if you can plz answerrr : 1. Chrysalis is "queen", Sombra is "king", Tirek is "lord" and they are around celestia and luna level so why then are tia and luna just "princesses" 2. If starswirl casted spell on tia and luna an they turn into alicorns, cuz they raise sun and moon easly, then why he didn't cas that spell on somepony who easly control weather, nature, light or something like that?? 3. What if tia and luna are connnected ti princess platinum? 4. We know there are 2 worlds, so that means equestria and human world, but what if equestria is just a part of world so wat is with other places?? 5. We als know that celestia told mane 6 that discord can use his magic for good, but why didn't she told that about idk chrysalis or somone else what if before discord was on princesses side? 6. Before it all, before equestria, before starswirl, before racism, were there alicorns. Cuz i dont think that tia and luna are first alicorns ever.. What if alicorns created unicorns pegasus and earth ponies.... 7. So if celestia cutie mark is sun, and luna's moon, then what about their parents cutie marks? And do they had other siblings? 8. Final question- sience harmony tree was destroyed why didn't twilight or somepony else created something new? And wat da f*** happend to ever free forest is casted spell on it to sleep or something? PLZ ANSWER IF YOU CANNN
I think I know how control the star it could be twilight sparkle because just look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little around it so it could be Twilight sparkle!!!
Celestia is a scheming god-pony, I'm pretty sure she was behind this. It's not the first time we saw her have long-lasting plans involving complicated manipulations of other ponies.
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F 0 R E S T2020-04-16 05:06:55 (edited 2020-04-17 02:59:55 )
”Śtårš, Fütūrë, Møøń, Śüñ, Dāÿ, ñïght... Mågįç åñd łïfę. Thėÿ łįė ïñ ūš åłl, Ïš thėrę å pøñÿ whø čøńtrołš thėm åłl?” (this is for another theory )
I have came up sorta with a question that is the magic element of harmony supposed to be sunsets or Twilights because if you think about it sunset stepped in on rainbow rock and became another part of the rainbow. But then in the next movie the friendship games The other twilight joins the crew leaving someone without an element also if you think about it sunset used to be celestias pupil so is the element of magic belong to sunset. Furthermore the spirit of harmony shows up as twilight if you think about it. So is twilight just the spirit of harmony and sunset the element of magic it would also explain the ending in the movie where the sunset turns into a pheonix then a star as there is another star that is purple but doesn't shine so bright. I would love to hear what you think and ask if you could make a video on it? You could also find evidence against or for my theory. I just wamt to here your thoughts.
charles stive2020-04-11 18:00:56 (edited 2020-04-11 18:01:45 )
Wait a minute! Is it true that Luna's boyfriend is king Sombra bc if u look on the internet you see alot of pictues of them together (so on youtube) but you see also some pictures of Luna whit a chain on her neck??? so is she sombra's girlfriend??? or not im confused! Brony Notion pls explain this!
wait a minute I realized something that the tree did this then the vines were it's doing maybe I perpecfully weakened it's magic so that it unite the six maybe the kidnapping of Luna and celestria was it's doing
Ok don't get mad at me but I think it was Chrysalis mabey she gets star power and is just jealous of Celestia and Luna or Cadence on accident I am just thiking of possibilitys ok
Or maybe...... Luna did it! because when twilight sparkle was drinking the potion that is white from zecora I see that Luna raised the moon and put the stars together to the moon and she escaped it! But that is a different episode that I forgot what episode.
Celestia controls the day and Luna the night celestia has nothing to do with the stars but Luna her magic was taken with her maybe celestia trapped nightmare moon with another spell to stop her from using magic for 1000 Years that means that after the thousand years to control the stars again and free herself Like if you agree
In seson 9 in "the last problem" she was a full grown alicorn and on one of your other vids you said there might be a future season and spike said thats for future spike to handle and flurry heart is an adult so my theory is the different species friend like yona and sandbar are the future generation and flurry heart will be like future cadance
Dear brony notion I suggest u make a theory about sunset real human form (sci-sunset) that is like sci-twi every pony have a double human and pony form, Since sunset shimer is from the pony realm then were is sunset original human form? Is there another sunset just like there was a nother twilight and the other pony. Pls do the theory im still confused thank you😄😁😁
OMG i cant Believe no one has said this TWILIGHT IS THE ONE BUT SHE DIDNT DO IT WHITH HER ON WILL IT WAS HER DESTINY my proof is why would we she have STARS on her cutiemark!
I thick I know how control the star it could be Twilight sparkle because look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little star around it so it could be Twilight sparkle or not!!!
I think a New sister aka a sister that controls stars Will be Shown soon....BUT WILL SHOW UP AT THE BATTLE WHEN the “three friends in prison TOGETHER” Get out WITH GROGAR! Yes I know this sounds crazy but it just my theory
The tree of harmony have a spirit and why does the tree have a star in the middle and twilight kidney mark looks like it and maybe the spirit of the three trolling the stars .
This isn't have anything to do with the video but I have a question that I'd like you to answer why Turn off the colors Rainbowdash is all the colors is she like special
brony notion don't you know that luna also controls the star but when the were kids luna didn't know how to control the stars so celestia used to raise the stars until luna learned how to control them oh and can I have a shout out please pretty please
Hmmmmmmm, think it's starlight glimmer cause before she was bad but now good but, before she was bad how did starlight glimmer did it? Maybe she learned how to do it on book or how? Is it true or not true I am not sure🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨???????????????
No more pony anymore what happens to discord grogar bell the bell is a key open for Tantabus escaped Luna jail to freedom discord mind discord turn into the new father of monsters U don't understand about discord I love him my favorite creatures Where is new episodes discord happening 🧬?
My guess is she'd set it that she would return she just wasn't sure when it would happen, she never wanted to send her sister away. So she set a timer and had faith she'd find some pony to save Luna
I always assumed that Celestia had set the stage for Nightmare Moon's return from the moment she sealed her sister to the moon. In the story it explicitly states that "On the longest day of the thousandth year, the stars will aid in her escape." That implies that this was determined long ago, possibly as a part of the spell cast with the Elements.
In the Book, "Journal of the Two Sisters," the story goes that Luna and Celestia began controling the sun and moon when Starswirl and the other unicorn's magic failed. Starswirl also said he'd teach Luna, "How to move the stars."
This reminds me of a fanfic where Celestia asks a well-known archivist / historian to ”tie in” ie renovate Caterlot's huge archive. Everything is a mystery until the Pony in question finds a link between celestia and the myth of the mare in the moon.
Okay, here’s a thought. I know you probably touched on this, but it’s still a valid point. WHAT IF those stars in particular weren’t stars at all?! In the real world, there are things like planets and even far off galaxies that resemble stars... but that’s not the thing here. Those stars must have been magical pieces... and what if there was something to Granny Smith’s old tale about the pony of shadows, with Nightmare Moon’s magic not being truly gone, and perhaps there were leftover magical energy (I’m calling it Mana) that was left behind by something that had happened ages ago, and even though it isn’t sentient per say, it is drawn to magical people/places like iron filings to a magnet.
it could have been twilight and the dream team, she now controls the sun and moon and the stars could represent dreams. now the time line thats no problem, twilight knows how to time travel to make sure her friends and herself got that memory to bond. celestia as well she saw the signs that soon she could have been powerful enough to release maybe.
i'm really happy to see people still making mlp videos even after the show's ended. i know i definitely want to get a channel up and running once i finish my rewatch of the whole series/catch up, but i worry about how much attention it might get since some people consider the fandom to be dead now. seeing this kind of thing is encouraging in that respect, so thanks for doing what you do!
Considering that Luna/ Nightmare moon also has control over the night. Its plausible idea that she can control the stars as well. It's still possible that whatever spell that was used could've been weakened over time and she escaped herself possibly using the stars to "break the shield" for lack of a better term and escape.
Well it makes perfect sense and I can see why the shows creator asked us who controls the stars, because later on in the friendship is magic episode when mayor mayor introduces celestia but then we find out she went poof. Could only have meant she took off because she didn’t want a fight with her sister like a thousand moons ago. But in an animation somewhere on YouTube with a little Luna and celestia when Luna finally raises the moon she’s exhausted,and then her sister asks if she wants help with the stars tonight. And Luna agrees. And I know that isn’t part of the show but celestia is in control of the stars with Luna being mia. At the moment. Because if the suns a star she would have everything to do with the celestial sky with in the domain of equestria thus being able to control constatations as well, meaning she did in fact released her sister with the help of the stars.
How could Celestia be guided by visions when in an alternate timeline that Celestia released Nightmare Moon after Starlight messed with the timeline, and prevented the Main 6 from becoming the bearers?
No, I'm sorry, but I can't buy her having a vision with Nightmare Moon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've only ever seen her have one vision. Memory might be shakey, so correct me if need be. Regardless, that doesn't mean she was "informed" or anything. And even then, who cares? So she had one or two visions, that doesn't prove her every action is guided by one. That has to be proven. The fact that she went and released Nightmare Moon despite that Twilight couldn't discover the Elements in this timeline, tells me she thought she knew Twilight would find the Elements, and in fact had no vision aiding her whatsoever. And where did that lead her? A trip to the Moon.
At least when Discord's plan blew up in his face, it still succeeded in the end. Celestia may never get the chance to undo what she did in the alternate timeline and her screw up remains screwed.
I think the celestia is definitely not the one freeing her sister. Yes it sounds great for her to do but it doesnt make complete sense, as said in the video. I think either the elements did it or maybe nightmare moon. We dont know what "powers" she can do we know of some but not all. She could have used a lot of power to free herself then have to regain it back to fight tia. So she waited then when ready demonstrated and being dramatic used the stars to pretend to make her escape. Then leave just to find her fighting partner gone nowhere to be found and the citizens confused and frightened at her arrival. Summing this up i think that nightmare moon freed herself, regained energy, went all dramatic and aligned the stars to the moon and left the moon ready to fight tia.
I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder if it might be Nightmare Moon herself. We know Luna was taught to move the Stars by Starswirl in the Journal of the Two Sisters, yet we also know Luna was unsuccessful in replicating the effect exactly. Maybe she could move the stars but couldn't adjust for the speed of light, as such it took a thousand years for the movement to be perceptible to Equestria. Its just a guess, and probably needs some adjusting. I dunno, what do you think?
About the video that Twilight killed the tree and how you were talking about the different creatures friendship group and how colors were latched to them and how you were predicting what their element was. You said the tree couldn't forget the pillars and how they have their own elements like strength, beauty, hope, sorcery, and bravery. What if instead of the kindness, honesty, generosity, loyalty, laughter, and magic it was those elements? And the way you would figure out is in the Shadow play part II when they are trying to figure out where the pony of shadows went the elements of harmony spirits stould by a certain pillar. What if the colors were still attatched but they had the meanings of the pillars? Please look into this! Love your theories!💗
i always took worded visions as an analogy twilight has stars and most see early stars at twilight and each element can mean stars its the wording elements ponies twilight celestia wording is what makes it
It could have been apart of the spell celestia cast when sending nightmare moon to the moon thinking of a quick easy temporary spell but with so much power of the elements and mabey a a vage vision of twighlight defeating nightmare moon ending up imprisoning her for 1000 years
it was just a temporary time-out for Luna on the moon made by Celestia. Celestia would never abandon her family members, would she? Also, maybe there was a belief like Greece that killing or betraying family members would cause a curse or Celestia had a vision or prophecy telling her that she must only trap her for 1000 years, no more.
Y'now, it's possible she did it without realising. At the end of the video, you said celestia didn't control the stars. Maybe she does, and nobody realises. Not even her. I'm not a theorist, however, so I don't know if it's right or wrong...
Wait- we don't know where Celestia and Luna come from... so what if they are actually the children of the Tree of Harmony? Their powers could be fuelled by the tree, so basically, in terms of magic, The Tree of Harmony=Celestia+Luna. Why is this important, you ask? Well, we all know that Celestia did not want her sister imprisoned, and Luna did not want to be trapped on the moon, so maybe their shared desires subconsciously convinced the tree to free Luna/N.M., as their magic would be the exact same thing.
To uncover and fully understand the mystery of who orchestrated nightmare-moon's return, we would have to consider the fact that her release was actually prophesied. Which means that the circumstances which would aid her release was what was prophesied not the fact that there would be someone who would defeat and convert nightmare-moon back to princess Luna or the fact that nightmare-moon would be converted at all. So, therefore princess celestia couldn't have been the one to have released nightmare-moon.
Maybe Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon for an even longer time or forever and she didn't want that to happen so she tried to cast a spell to free and reform her but instead she weakened the spell, causing a "timer" of a thousand years for the spell to wear off. And to add Grogar in this, maybe he saw that Celestia weakened the spell that kept Nightmare Moon banished, so in the stars, he helped aid her escape. Grogar and Nightmare Moon were planning what they were going to do once Nightmare Moon was free and prevented her from thinking about what she has become. If you don't understand, then think of this as "time out" in school. Celestia is the teacher and Grogar and Luna are her students. Luna wants to have the best grades in her class but she doesn't do as good as someone else in her class. She becomes a trouble-maker in class or becomes Nightmare Moon and her teacher, Celestia puts her in time out or banishes her to the moon. Grogar is also in time out in the stars and chats with Luna about a revenge plan on Celestia for when they both get out of time out. Celestia gives Luna a second chance and lets her out of time out. Luna is about to commence the revenge plan when the mane 6 convince her not to do it and reforms her. Writing this theory took twenty minutes but hope you like it!! Love your vids💖🧡💛💙💜🦄🦄
Wouldn’t it be a cool theory to think the stars moved by themselves as part of this destiny? Twilight’s cutie mark is a star with smaller stars around it after all, and cutie marks are linked with destiny. In a world where magic exists, what’s unbelievable about magic stars? Celestia cast that spell to keep Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1,000 years, it could’ve simply worn off by then or weakened, or broke like an expired contract (essentially what it is). So I support the theory in Celestia seeing the signs and preparing Twilight and her friends for the reform, and her choosing not to extend Nightmare Moon’s sentence longer because Celestia felt like the Mane Six were ready. Celestia must’ve known. Whether it was her or the stars themselves, I don’t think it was an accident.
It does make sense that she could have been the one to do it. I still like your theory of Grogar being the one that did it, but I think it's plausible that Celestia either did it herself or asked someone like Grogar to do it. She still would want her sister back so desperately, and that's why my theory is that she asked Grogar to cast a spell that would enable NMM's escape in 1000 years, giving her time to find the new elements. She knew she had found the one who would be the leader when she sensed filly Twi's magic, and it was only like another 10ish years away from the 1000 year mark. Celestia obviously knew Twilight was going to be the Element of Magic the moment she met her, heck, I even have a headcanon that she started seeing dreams/visions of Twi's cutie mark some time after she banished Luna to the moon, and she spent all those years searching for a pony with that cutie mark. I also think that if she asked Grogar to cast the spell, she did so carefully, still keeping him imprisoned in Tartarus or knowing that it would kill him, but if neither of those happened, perhaps it meant that Grogar would return but Celestia knew the new Elements could handle him. I'm not sure she would have gone to that much trouble to bail out Luna, but now we will never see the possibility of Grogar being a villain since it was just Discord in disguise all along.
The tree of harmony thinked that discord would have been to harsh for their first mision so it send nightmare moon first and then figure out if the mane six were prepared for anithing
I believe it was Sunset Shimmer that started it all. We don’t actually know how long a “moon” is (unless I missed it). Her defying Celestia instigated the stars to align to release Nightmare Moon. Being banished thru the portal, and only having it open for 3 days every 30 moons pushed celestia to send Twilight to ponyville to “make some friends”.
Ok so I’ve watched this series for a while and I HAVE A BONE TO PICK!!
Not in a bad way, I love these vids... they keep me in a mentality somewhere between a child and an adult...
Maybe it’s been adressed and I’ve just never seen it, but you disproved the fact of there ever being an “alicorn civilization” now, I’m not very up to speed with the show (life happens) but I’m still confused of where the sisters go when they’re retired I think, unless it was directly proven false and I missed it (which is a huge possibility) but is there an alicorn civilization or not? Where do they go? Do they poof? Just wondering
I believe it's either Celestia's mother or father that did it, it's plausible but we've never seen them nor do we know if they had any power of celestial objects, I had thought Starswirl could have but he was in Limbo fighting and containing the Pony of Shadows(aka Stygian) and besides he was never claimed to control celestial objects and I doubt he'd be powerful enough to do so.
Well, the sun is a star, so in theory Celestia can control them, but the stars are so far away that it wouldn't make sense to move them, and the stars surround the galaxy so if you move them they'd still be by day, but, because of sunlight they don't see them. In the episode of Rockhoof Twi explains that the stars move slowly as they do not have the same location as when he lived with the pillars, so we can assume that they're moves alone or that someone moves them little by little every time. I believe that when the elements of harmony locked Luna up, they put a lock on the stars so that one day she could be released, the years passed and when the tree saw Twi and her friends and the connection between them, he sent signals to Celestia to release Luna. It's my personal theory.
I really like the idea that Celestia released Nightmare Moon, but not as a test for Twilight, but because she wanted to get her sister back.
And I don't think the Signs had anything to do with the Stars, but that Twilight was ready to rediscover the Elements and purity Luna. The Stars were just the method by which Nightmare Moon was released.
We know that together Celestia and Luna could use the Elements to defeat Discord, but Celestia couldn't use them to purify Luna, so all Celestia could do was banish her to the moon. I believe that the Elements left Celestia right after she banished Nightmare Moon to the moon. So she had to wait until the next bearer would come along, which she knew because of the Cutie Mark on the Tree of Harmony. So when she saw Twilight's cutie mark after the Sonic Rainboom she knew that she was the one who would be able to save Luna. So to me it makes sense that she would be willing to release Nightmare Moon, she just wanted to set right her mistake in letting Luna become Nightmare Moon and being unable to help her. What would actually be amusing would be after Celestia banished Nightmare Moon to the moon, she would have gone to the Tree of Harmony and asked it to bring her sister back, only for the Tree of Harmony to tell her how it would play out, then Celestia wrote the prophesy in the book that Twilight would eventually read.
If most of the alicorns (I don't know if Twilight from the human world counts) can turn evil, does that mean Cadence and Flurry heart can turn evil too?
Twilight moved the stars! I think this because her cutiemark is the sign! The middle star represents the moon and the other four represent the aligned stars!!
What about the possibility of there being another sibling to Celestia and Luna that is in charge of the stars? Could the Tree of Harmony originally be this sibling that was turned into the tree?
Ok, I love your videos, but I have a theory that contradicts what you said. 1. The Race: You said that the things that brought the mane six together was the tree right? What really brought them together was... Drumroll please... Rainbow Dashes SONIC RAINBOOM! Think about it. It wasn't exactly on purpose, but without it, well, you know what happens. Equestria falls into immediate doom! You can't change history without leaving a mark on it, right? It was the RACE! The Sonic Rainboom, the first one ever preformed, started the whole manifesto. It caused the Mane Six to be brought together.
I have something that also debunks your theory (sorry). The tree didn't set up the challenges in the first episode. That was all nightmare moon. The keys just HAPPENED due to the special journeys on the FRIENDSHIP MAP. The friendship map is the one to blame for some of the keys. Other keys, (like Fluttershys and Rainbow Dashes) were just destiny! I'll give you the last one. That was the creepy trees fault.
Sorry for debunking your theory, but someone had to say something. Sincerely, A usual loyal fan. ( p.s, My sister, cousins, and I love your videos!)
Twili-corn was to Faust's design. There is a sketchbook drawing of fully ascended Twilight from when the show being made. THAT SAID...
Okay, some gluing together clues from 3 other sources. One of whom's canonicity is questionable. First is the episode where the CMC ask Twilight about how she got her Cutie Mark. Second is the episode where Celestia tells Twilight what is like to let a student go their own way... The third... Is MLP's 20/20 issue from IDW. Which is what people may question in the canon but follow me here and you can see some mind threads I make that fit it in. Especially since IDW is moving forward with future seasonal content. It all starts with Rule 1 of Doctor Who: The Doctor Lies. Adapt that to Celestia... Celestia Lies. She is an ancient being that knows well the consequences of messing with time and space and disclosing and acting what one may know. Also how messing with time can mess with a lot of things (as Celestia hints at in the mini-episodes explaining Equestria's magic)
The first thing I want to bring up is Twilight's remembrance of the day she got her cutie mark. Just want you to think of the event and know... it is a lie. The details of what happened did not happen the way she thinks they did. We go to IDW's 20/20 issue. Twilight and friends still have the elements and they are showing off in front of a delegation from the feline kingdom and Celestia. A display of pony ability. During this storm rolls and a bit worried about it, Dash decides to show off her speed and blast the storm with a Sonic Rainboom. When she does, magic arcs from her to all the rest of the girls though the elements and they vanish. They show up years earlier on the day of the first Rainboom, next to their child selves...
There is hijinx and such that goes around but the most important thing is Twilight. That scene has some modifications to what happened. Spike's egg didn't hatch at all, Celestia was in the room and not outside, and other minor things like Twi's parents in the audience and the judges upfront. Rainboom happens, Young Twi casts the hatching spell... and it instead YANKS Princess Twilight to her to everyone's shock. Once things are settled Princess Twi goes to explain to Celestia, who is shocked at seeing another Alicorn Princess, but Celestia cuts her off and explains to her that she must not say what is going on. The weave of time is in danger right now and no one wants to cause a paradox.
Talking a bit, Princess Twi tells Celestia that she needs to find her Element of Harmony, it is missing from her crown. She also says that all things seem to start in Ponyville for some reason and she must head there. Celestia has Princess Twi (PT) take the excited Young Twi (YT) to Ponyville, YT just floored that she becomes a princess someday. Celestia says she'll catch up and help when she can, first she has to modify the memories of everyone here for safety. PT and YT head to Ponyville and through an adventure there, the older girls introduce the younger girls to each other and get the elements. PT goes to open the rift back home just as Celestia shows up and Celestia relays that she took care of the witnesses back at the castle, they will never know PT was there. PT asks about the people of Ponyville and the young mane 6 to which Celestia says something like, "I must modify the memories here too. Even your younger selves. But don't worry. The ones I put on you 6 will degrade and you will remember the truth sometime in the future." and the mane 6 head back to their present. End of comic
Now to guess what happens next. Celestia goes through with her powerful magic and puts things back as they all "Remember" But in this case... Celestia knows things. She knows that Twilight will become an Alicorn. Twilight will need her friends. All things seem to start in Ponyville... and most importantly above all... Twilight and the girls have the elements of Harmony and are bonded to them. From that Celestia can extract events from there that she doesn't know for sure but can be fairly certain of. Which brings us to Celestia's memory of letting Twilight go and sending her to Ponyville. She knows that all things start there. That it has to happen to keep a paradox from happening. But she grew so attached to this talented filly that she didn't want to send Twilight away. Celestia puzzles out possibilities, using all her resources at her command to try some way to keep this from going the way she fears because she doesn't actually know the details of what happens just that it has to happen. But the day comes, She looks to the moon that she moves each night that is her sister's prison and knows the time is coming soon. She knows that Twilight MUST make friends with these other 5 mares and bond the elements and part of that she assumes her sister's release is linked to it... and so... well the rest is history.
Celestia kept close tabs on her student. She moved the moon into the position it needed to be in the stars to free Luna, then she stood back and let the events she feared so much happen with bated breath. Most likely up from Celes, where she can observe from a safe place. (its the name of where Twilight goes when she becomes an Alicorn). And thus... that's my thoughts. But hey. It's just a hypothesis... A PONY HYPOTHESIS.
I think Luna made herself free I mean she controls the night so what if she planed it herself but had to wait for the right time or to gain enough power to bail out?
I think Celestia used a Spell when she banished her and in the Spell after a thousand year she set up the Spell to have her released. I believe that Celestia wouldn't be able to banish her sister forever so she found a spell that would release Luna after a Thousand years. Kinda like putting Luna in a time out not sending her away forever. I believe that the one Spell that she cast the night of Luna's banishment brought Luna back and moved the stars. So no I don't believe Celestia herself moved the stars but the Spell she cast to bring her sister back did. Though I do like your theory.
What if Nightmare moon/Luna moves the stars? If she did it that late she probably just discovered that she could move the stars, or she didn’t think of it until that time.
we can't rule out the fact that the sun and moon are closer then every other star so there still is that factor, and anyone with enough magical power can control the sun and the moon, look at the ponies of Equestria's old, look at the unicorns of Equestria's old
Well it's obviously true! It's all her fault this shit happened in the first place.... Celestia clearly don't know all the values and priorities in life.
The question that bothers me is: Did Lauren Faust thought about this solution when she was making season1 or later? Did she thought that she didn't need a reason, because at this point of the season 1 premiere she didn't realized how many fans this show will get and that most of the fans are teenagers or adults who think more deeply? If so, did she tried to make a solution? She would've to make a theory about her own show with the hints she gaved with no second thought.Maybe Celestia was an idea for an solution, but she didn't made an official soluton, because she didn't know about the bronies to come. Her solution makes sense, but other theories, like yours with Grogar, makes sense too. Of course she is the creator of this wonderful show and what she says is canon. But if you think about my point that I'm trying to make here, it's really up to everyone to decide for themselves, because we can't be sure that her solution fits the best out of all other theories. In the end I'm open to all theories of this mystery. What Lauren Faust states is canon, but if she came up with this solution much later and other theories fit better than Lauren Fausts solution, than it wouldn't be wrong to accept another theory. Also what if the show makers gave us other hints for this mystery throughout the show even after Lauren Faust has left and the other theories were made out of this additional hints? Isn't something canon that happened in the show? If they were any more hints to this mystery, than Lauren Fausts solution may not be canon anymore. It's two sites of what is canon or not.
I know this is unrelated to the vid, but I just wanna say I miss the series so much🥺😭❤️🧡 I’ve been watching since season 1 when I was just 6 now I’m 15 and I still love the series so much🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡I used to skip the theme song every time I watch the episodes and now I regret it cuz now it has ended I just realised how much I loved the series and the songs too😍🤩and I don’t care how people keep saying I’m childish for watching MLP and I don’t care if they are going to make fun of me😤
It's just a teory, And I don't have any evidence to proove what I'm about to say but, still. What about starswirl? I mean, we know he is the "Twilight" of his Group, who Just happened to Plant the three. We know he has really powerful Magic, since he kept discord's plants still with the princesses, And we haven't seen yet his back. Also he wasn't young even thousends of years ago...maybe starswirl isn't a unicorn, maybe He is...An alicorn! We know that alicorn can infuse their power to other alicorns, right? And we know that Celestia, And consequentially Luna, weren't always reigning Equestria, or it's equivalent before unicorns, heart pony and pegasi allied. Why? Because when Twilight students put on the act on Celestia, they said that before they needed 5 powerful unicorns to raise the sun, and this action would have drained all of their Magic. But then Celestia came. But...from where? And she was alredy an alicorn? We don't know the answer to either of this question, but I like to think that she was alredy a alicorn, but she wasn't the only One. With the 5 ponys, there was, guess who? Starswirl. But, the sunrise didn't took his Magic... maybe because he wasn't Just a unicorn, but here wasn't even a pure alicorn like Celestia, he weren't ment to be an alicorn. We know that alicorn usually don't born alredy with all the trhee magics, as we can see by the reaction to flurry heart born... But the two Sister must have someone Who gave them the magic they needed to be alicorns... maybe starswirl! But he's still an alicorn, so Just like twilight he had more power then an average pony, but not enough to rule equestria, control sun and moon etcetera. What if the magic he kept was the one to rule the stars? Just, think about it...his name is STARswirl, And The two sisters name too remind their Role (for an example in my language, "luna" means "moon" and "cielo" means "sky"). But When he had to go to the limbo he left this power to Celestia, And this cause Luna's Anger, this was the limit, even he's Teacher prefered her Sister! But as we know, starswirl invented the first time travel speech , so he has enough power to time travel. He must have learnt Starlight version of his spell and went Tell something important to Celestia, who then proceded to free nightmare moon and so cause pretty much all the series. If You have to discuss on this theory please do it politely, so we can enjoy this speculations. Also sorry if I made mistake, as you could see English isn't my mother language, so if You can politely Point my mistakes so i can improve I would be so grate. Thanks for reading
I agree on Celestia not controlling the stars. Even though the Sun is technically a star, it's WAY closer than the other stars, the closest of which is 4 LIGHT YEARS away. That's just too far for a simple spell if you ask me. During the episode where Rockhoof finds his place in Equestria, Twilight mentions that the stars very gradually drift in the night sky, which is exactly what they do in reference to Earth. If Celestia were moving them, there's no reason to suspect that Twilight wouldn't know that. Luna is a powerful alicorn. She'd surely be able to break the spell eventually, even with the elements enhancing it. I don't think she'd necessarily need someone else to break her out.
I don't think there were stars who freed Nightmare Moon/Luna. I believe that something that nobody and nopony knew before did that thing, and it's a hidden force, maybe. About Celestia, I see her as a very good manipulator and, Luna is the same. There is something that the show is hiding, but I don't know what and, I think that something is missing. I would like to see the deeper side of the characters more and, I don't believe the show ended with just nine seasons. And, who is the Spirit of Tree of Hormony?
My original thought was that discord knew that luna would become nightmare moon and set a spell to release her in 1000 years. it could have been as close to then as he could go or he was planning something for the ponies
Here is a theory. Luna needed to turn into Nightmare Moon. Because in the future as we know she can travel through dreams. But what about nightmares? Nightmares are also part of the dream realm. So Luna did not mean to turn into Nightmare Moon. Destiny wanted to,
In the video unlocking grogar's true past grogar must have been a uniquely patterned and a bright big star he might have released Nightmare Moon and himself too
Celestia didnt release her because twilight. Remember when Starlight erased the Rainboom and twi went back and forth between alternate demensions? Well one of them was a demension where Night mare Moon ruled so even with twilight out of the picture she still released her
Hi, can you talk about how celestia raised the moon when she only has the power to raise the sun? And why are the elements of harmony in the old sisters castle? Why was it old and abandoned?
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H Alka2020-04-04 12:05:19 (edited 2020-04-04 12:05:32 )
I think this theory is stupid but what if Starlight Glimmer was rileded to Celectia and Luna in a way 🤔
also I think it’s kind of funny that this video came out shortly after I left a comment on one of your older videos talking about the same subject and I had mention that Lauren first talked about it on her Twitter
I think that celestial shouldn’t be considered a hypocrite because even if she couldn’t see the future she knew luna and wanted to free her. If it was a gamble celestial would have to take her chances in order to get luna back.
I know ''Lullaby For A Princess'' is by the show, not considered cannon. But if we saw that it is, could that maybe mean that when Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon, she only wanted to see her sister again, no matter what (Of which could also be seen in the show) and so the elements obeyed, but as Celestia had failed Luna, she could not redeem Nightmare Moon, but the Elements Of Harmony in some ways knew, that Twilight and her friends would get them and then redeem Luna, but only telling Celestia it would be a 1000 years till Nightmare Moon would escape and how, giving Celestia good time to make a plan.
If it wasn't for Luna's jealousy and Starswirl to go missing, one of the few in Equestria I suspect treated Celestia and Luna as equals.
So if Luna never was sent to the moon and the Sonic Rainboom never happened, Twilight and her friends would never have met, and we see in the other realities, Equestria would have been doomed to be out of harmony, FOREVER!!
Let me know if you agree with me and Brony Notion, I hope this give you a new perspective... And maybe a new theory. ;-)
I bet she was like: Ok my sister has been in moon time out for a few years now.. Maybe I should let her out.. Like twilight will save her so like.. Yea no chance of someone dying.. cough applejack nearly fell off a cliff cough
Twilight when she got startled by the rain boom she might of made the stars move a few years later and who raises the sun and moon now Twilight sparkle
I have a theory for you too solve! Is it possible for luna/celestia too not be triggered by jealousy and turn too their villain counterparts? If so how?
Clestia did raise the luna after Luna went to the moon so she can control the stars but what if the ponies with night related cutie Mark or power ful magic could free them maybe trixie she said she is great and power ful nd she doesn't really prove it what if she did that to show ponies she is power ful maybe she got hold of the alicorn amulet or get another artifact that is power full and did it or had a ponies help her and she probly realised her mistake couldn't fix it like she says she power but can't reverse it
Sorry I wrote alot it could be other ponies but that is my theory
Hey Brony Notion you when Lauren Faust said “who controls the sun moon and stars think of season nine who takes over celestia and Lunas place Twilight sparkle! And if you look on her cutie mark there’s Stars!!! She controls the sun moon and stars Rip Grogar theories
Maybe I can help, here is a clue who else can controls the stars. Twillight is a (Star) alicorn, (Star) alicorns are made when a (Star) pony became a alicorn. Like dream ponies, (Star) ponies are powerful and don't need a horn to have magic, but they don't travel to dreams.
what if it was Starswirl? think about it.... Starswirl was the pony who invented alicorns, right? yes. and Celestia and Luna were the very first alicorns in Equestria, right? yes! so in addition Starswirl gave them all the powers of the ponies, alicorn wings, flowing hair and immortality it could be a possibility that he gave them the power to send someone away but with count down. yeah his name is STARswirl and it sounds predictable but think about it. IF Luna would send Celestia to the moon (or sun for that matter) it would be that the stars will still help Celestia out, same with Luna... Luna is sent away and then the stars help her out... Starswirl knew that IF one of the sisters were in danger, the stars would still help them out in ANY situation... trapped in a cage or lost in a forrest. the stars will guide them out or help them find FREEDOM because he knows that Equestria need more than one leader.... that is why the main six are in charge for the safety in Equestria... because it is more than ONE! hope u see this and I love your videos :)
i have an idea for another theory! or another question- why do the dazzlings turn to humans but they look like dragons? and spike turns into a dog- why wouldn’t they turn into dogs?
Wait twilight has a star in her cutie mark and she’s now the ruler of equestria controlling the sun and the moon so she could control the stars at the start of the first episode she have learned at clelestia school
Uhh - the only person that comes into my mind is star swirl, because he’s a powerful unicorn and he and other unicorns controlled the sun, and I know he couldn’t be the one who controls the starts because he was in this "prison" ( I forgot the name of it) . Unless ... 😂😂
um... isnt the sun a star, she wouldnt have to control all stars, just a few , the sun and the 4 stars to set her sister free, she more powerful then we can understand in my statement
Should u rewatch the first episode of the first season because in one of the season it show that princess twilight had to go back the the past so it could be princess Celestia because it show he using the elements of Harmony
mario reyes2020-04-07 15:32:09 (edited 2020-04-07 15:32:51 )
Maybe not who controls but what triggers the stars? Me: the sonic rainboom that gave the mane six their cutie marks. Maybe. Other guess is a pony that can have access to both day and night but that a long shot. ✌️
I feel like it's disrespectful to not belive that it is CANON if she said that it is then its CANON an we cannot said or do anything about her version of the story
Mabye star swirl before disappearing with the other pillars controlled the stars and after disappearing they just stayed there and the sun overpowers them like in our world
prinses luna controls the night and the moon and the stars to! so princes luna got control on the stars maybe she escaped from her self? but waited for thousand years? that what I think
wait for stars so mabe the tree-like mind controls the pristine to make her move the stars to the right but as user mind controls she can see everything that she was doing while controls then she unwilling gave her self to nightmare moon then the tree can mind-controlled someone but if you say NO ONE CAN GET MIND CONTROL to look at foldeshy frand
I know my spellings are bad I am only in grade school but I think it a good theory like if agreed
I think celestia little sister trys to get out of the moon that celestia trap her in the sky..but or maybe....maybe that she knew that celestia was gonna trap her in the moon so she tells all of the villain to rescue her from the moon and then she might says to them she will give them something very expensive to them for a return...idk thats the only thing that i remembered in my mind
Ehem, If I may... THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CONTROLES THE STARS!!! WHO DOESE TWILIGHT LOOK UP TO OTHER THEN THE PRINCESSES??? (STARSWEARL THE BEARDED) Its either that or Twilight herself but I don't think she's that strong yet. <YET
Im kinda thinking it was twiligth but she was just a unicorn, but i kinda support that theory bc the stars on her cutie Mark, maybe she lifted the curse when that magical explosion happened when she was a filly? Tell me, what do you think of this theory?
I think I have a theory as to why celestia can only move the sun. The sun in equestria may actually be a star. But just because celestia can raise one star doesn't mean celestia can control all stars. What if celestia is only capable of moving only one star, which is the sun. Just like how luna can only move one moon. It's possible that what the two sisters raise depends on what magic they have. That means they can only move the sun and the moon and nothing else.
As for the stars that aid nightmare moon's return, I don't think they're actual stars. Think of it this way, if stars are burning orb like our world then bringing them to the moon would have just burnt the moon. Yet if they're just normal glowing orbs of light then bringing it to the moon would've done nothing. It was magic that released nightmare moon. So what if the stars that aid in her escape weren't actual stars but rather stars made of magic. Someone could've used magic to create four stars that would help release nightmare moon. Someone like the tree of harmony. Now this can go a few ways. 1. The tree of harmony could've made those stars itself. OR 2. Based on the brony notion's theory, all the tree of harmony had to do was move the stars that imprisoned grogar. Or maybe 3. Gusty never vanished grogar to the stars. What if she turned him into stars? Grogar could have very well moved himself or moved with the help of the tree of harmony and release nightmare moon.
Can she open it herself she controls the Stars if she can control the star she can probably look out of it as I mean is the Moon if you can look at all the moons but I see to control them which can also control the Stars so it's probably is herself there's an answer
Joseph Stalin2020-04-04 16:01:03 (edited 2020-04-04 16:10:21 )
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This theory is not possible, tree of harmony did not have elements at that time. Tree used elements to send her on the moon, so tree of harmony would need them to bring Nightmare back.
the tree still had power without the elements, and it could still orchestrate events to give the elements new bearers. also, the elements were needed to bring LUNA back, but Nightmare Moon returned without them.
Tromba: I think I was a little too crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical... (Fades out as he crashes into the stars)
Soo I have some ponies in mind: 1. Celestia's and Luna's parents. We don't know what they can do, how they look, where they are and if they are even alive. But they may understood somehow that Celestia banished her sister to the moon and they couldn't live with that thought anymore or Celestia told them somehow and everyday she was telling them how awful she felt, so her parents helped her, after Celestia told them about a really powerful unicorn in her class(Twilight). Maybe they waited until Twilight reached at a very good magic level and then they would free Luna. 2. Starlight. Although I don't really know, cause at that time I think that starlight was trying to find a village to rule and studied magic at the same time (Flashback 1 when Starlight said she knew Maud cause she asked her something when she was trying to find the Village, Flashback 2 when she she said to Twilight: "Ugh I studied that spell for years!"). She could, but I don't know. Something isn't right with the sentence: Starlight is the one how moved the stars. 🤔 3. Discord. With his magic, he can do anything. And, back to his old self, we could easily say that Discord want Equestria to suffer. He tried years ago, but he didnt make it. Now that he knows about Nightmare moon and that she wasnt going to be stoped, cause she was powerfull, he could release her and then team up with her to destroy and rule Equestria. Of course, after accomplushing that, he would destroy Nightmare Moon and he would rule Equestria all by him self. 4. Luna. Yes she was the prisoner, but we dont know if Celestia used only one spell to banish Luna to the moon. She may send her there with her magic, but she knew that she would come back if she let her free with no barriers. She may used 2 spells, one to send her to the moon and one to make Nightmare Moon not being able to use her magic. Of course that spell lasted only for a thousand years and then Luna escaped at her one. Day by day she pulled the stars closer and closer, cause the spell was slowly becoming powerless, and the moment that the spell broke she escaped ( I hope you can understand what I mean. Sorry my native language isn't English 😄). Starsswirl couldn't preformed any spells because he was at Limbo. And Twilight couldn't ether, we know why. There are no other ponies that could done such a thing....
SUNSET. Sunset could have done that too. She maybe returned to Equestria, nopony noticed her, and rescued Luna for revenge! 😲
Wow I didn't know that I could say all those thing😂. I know its a lot but that's on my mind. Oh boi😂
I had another idea that even the Tree of Harmony is just a piece in the puzzle .What if Starswirl wasnt banished to limbo at the time of Lunas banishment (or he felt her bannishment as he felt the destruction of the tree )and celestia never planned for her to leave the Moon just like Gusty the great intended to never free Grogar but Starswirl saw(/felt) that Luna being away hurt Celestia deeply and could prevent her from doing her duty and Enchantet the Tree of harmony .Here i have to make a short intermission and explain a detail : In this theorie one of the Purposes of the tree when it was planted was to aid STARSwirl because the Stars inherited a ancient nearly uncontrollable magic in keeping the stars in their place and take over when he became to old to do it. The Trees enchantment works like a simple code in a programm : it searches for new ponys for the elements because luna and celestia couldnt always keep them safe and the only thing he added was a simple if or rather a simple when : If/when the tree found suitable ponys he should free nightmare moon so the elements could reform her to once again help celestia
Im just saying wut if Nightmaremoon herself freed herself!? Im no scientist who constantly watch MLP when it already ended but this make sense right? On the tree of harmony Luna's cutiemark has a star, and what is visible in night? THE STARS so if this is true look at the video called My Immortal ,i saw that there was a portal to Equestria and Luna came throught but in reality Nightmaremoon was freed. Like
This is kinda a stupid theory but what if it was sunset shimmer, although I really like mlp i haven't watched all the episodes so this probably isn't true
Why does Lauren have a cat as profile??? Aren’t pony’s more important than cat’s? Ok no effence to cats, cats are cute? I wonder if this is a fake Lauren 😯
(I am putting a comment that I put on the last video as it seems you didn't see it I assume)[if you have read this already then you can just ignore this] Brony Notion hope that you see this comment ,these are my thoughts about the dream waking team ,I can only thought up of some small conclusion while can't really thought of a big conclusion , so hope that you can do a big conclusion with your analytical skill . ( I don't comment much so my wording on some stuff might sound weird , also if my wording does offend you in anyway I aplogize ,and if anyone is reading this is wondering I am a fulttershy type of a guy)
Conclusion-C Theory-T
Celestia draged Luna to Starlight's dream (royal problem) Luna can put multiple ponies in one dream but the more ponies the more difficult it is to control(does prinesses dream of magic sheep) C : there can be more then 2 real ponies mind in the same "main dream"
Luna can create semi sentient creature's that can effect the dream realm like the Tantabus (does prinesses dream of magic sheep) Starlight explains that her own magic is tied to her emotions—the stronger she feels, the stronger her magic (all bottled up) T : Tantabus was created to do negative intent like giving nightmare so it had a possibility of it going rouge to seek out more victims when it has collected enough let say corresponding "psychic power" which is Negetive like fear/guilt and so on cause it is it's intital purpose like making an AI and let it learn and grow toward it's purpose , so making a being that is similar to Tantabus that is kind and want to help ponies in their dreams will have a very low chance of going rouge C : so Luna can also create other semi sentient creature that is good to dive into other ponies dream to help them , or help the dream walking team to visit other ponies dream
complicated spells like moving the sun can be cast by multiple magically gifted unicorn but it is very difficult and magic draining for those who's talent is not spec on it (horse play) T : Tantabus was able to hold it's own form by absorbing it's corrisponding "pcychic power" , so with "nice Tentabus" can also have power similar abilities to Tantabus when absorbed enough corresponding "psychic power" which is positive like happiness C : the dream walking team can funtion without Luna's present ,but it would require multiple gifted unicorn to perform dream walking spell or find a successor to Luna and have he/she perform said spell or have the "good Tantabus " perform these spell
everyone in the share dream can use their magic and imagination and you can do and be anything in a dream and even becoming an Alicorn (does prinecesses dream of magic sheep) when Luna have Celestia's cutie mark or magic ,she can't do anything in Starlight's dream while knowing she can use her imagination [this could be debunk by saying Luna have some bad imagination but I think is highly unlikely] (royal problem) T/C : creature can only use their magic or imagination in their "main dream" but when they are moved to another creature "main dream" they can't use their magic or imagination , by fusing two "main dream" to a "shared dream" so both creature can use their magic or imagination , and Luna's main power in the dream realm is the ability to make "shared dream"
not so related stuff :
all/some magic spells are based on incantation (magical mystery cure , uncommon bond , shadow play) Twilight teaches magic to Swettie Bell step by step (twilight time) Starlight explains that her own magic is tied to her emotions—the stronger she feels, the stronger her magic (all bottled up) T : when casting a spell an unicorns place all the the incantation or steps in their mind to cast it but if you think it that way it would take too long and we can clearly see some spells can just be cast in a fly even powerful one that is seen in Shadow play , so I recon that spells' effects are based on ones intent (which can explain incantations on scrolls) and imagination while emotion emplifies the power C : all magic could be said to be their own imagination , if casting magic is almost the same as imagining it to happen
Look maybe it’s because the gravity I don’t know I don’t think so because I was going to do animations that pony control the stars I was going to do that but I’m still thinking about it how to do all the international that stuff you know so this is a Coincidence OK just saying
I'm not exactly 13, something close to that age. And I'm really lovvveee mlp. A lot of people always say I'm to big for that, but I so love it i just CAN'T stop
You know, I was so much happy when I read what you write. I really happy because of you say all that. I happy to see I'm not the only one who still like mlp. 💙💙💙
since lots of people are commenting this, yes the sun is a star in our world but in the magical land of Equestria, things are mythological, and i doubt stars are vastly huge and far like ours are.
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THANK YOU!
33 likesGo back and read my comment on your latest alicorn theory.After hearing yours I peiced some things together.I from what I noticed in the video.Also wouldnt cadence need magic to get her cutie Mark so she would have to start out as a unicorn 😉
20 likesThe Brony Notion The sun is a star tho..
8 likesThe Brony Notion damn I was about to ,comment that
10 likesYou r the best !
3 likesBut the sun is a star tho..........😐
2 likesHey Notion! I would love to hear your thoughts and maybe a head cannon on whether Luster Dawn may be the daughter of Starlight and Sunburst. I have a theory myself that would take so long to explain but if you'd like to hear it I would be glad to share! This is such an interesting question and since I'm a big fan of the Starburst ship, tho it's second to Cheesepie which is best ship change my mind, I'd love to see a video about this! Please think about it, and let me know if you would like to hear my headcannon cause really would like to share it with you😊 thx!
3 likesThe Brony Notion Maybe it is another sister in the stars I mean they never mentioned her but they never said she didn’t exist either there’s a good chance there is another sister one they haven’t mentioned yet
7 likesI think cestias therd sister who is prisoned in the stars for 10 000 milion years
1 likeBrony..... that’s literally her sister
3 likesWe know she always wanted her back
maybe celestia was doing a spell
0 likesfor measuring the stars but it went horribly wrong and the stars where In their final form
or you know the rainboom it may have released nightmare moon cause nightmare moon was also what got them together
0 likesMaybe the spirit of harmony took form of Celestia and set Luna free? We have seen the spirit do that in season 8 with twilight's form...
5 likesThis also might prove Celestia seeing a vision of setting Luna free. Lauren Faust may have hinted towards someone that is like Celestia, but isn't based of the "controls the stars" statement.
It is in his name and it is star swerld
0 likesI am disappoint at lauren Faust about grogar twist
0 likesOkay, but who else would Lauren Faust be talking about when she says “who controls stars?” You dont think it could be starswirl the bearded, right?
1 like@gurtison he was in a limbo, so it's impossible
3 likesIt was stated somewhere that the suns and moon are the same size as ours just that they orbit the planet instead of the other way around.
1 likeIn the final episode of season 9 the Last Problem I think they gave us the clue to translate Equestrian Language
2 likesIf the tree of harmony played a part on simbolizing the elements to the young 6 then mabye, it helped on giving the main 6 thier cutie marks/destinys and sending them on thier way to the story we know today. Because after all the tree of harmony has been around for longer than a millenia 🤔
0 likes@Pika _Gurl her cutie mark symbolises the crystal heart and she gets her magic power from the crystal heart as she lives in the crystal empire so it makes sense that she get her magic back after she sees the source of power her cutie mark resides from
1 like@eddog6666 really? Did someone make a video about it? This made me really curious
0 likes@Pika _Gurl not necessarily. You can spread love to people without magic, she just uses her horn as a way of spreading it faster.
0 likesWatch the last problem again. As in the flashback twilight is reading a newspaper it will say Foal Free Press but if you look carefully it will actually be symbols forming the words. Just pause the episode there and you will see what I mean.
0 likes@eddog6666 oOH Okay thank you
0 likesI was watching Equestria girls it show the same power of the my little pony movie with the storm king and there world how does that work
0 likesLps Reby true, but hecould have done it before and after he got out of limbo.
1 likeLps Reby maybe it was the tree, and it was one of the reason starswirl planted it? Idk
0 likes@gurtison but he went into the limbo before Luna turned into nightmare moon
0 likesAnd when he came out Luna was already redeemed
0 likes@gurtison now that could be true
1 likeWhere are you all finding a season nine!!!
1 likeHere’s something that just occurred to me.
1 likeIn the first Equestria Girls movie, Twilight mentions the possibility of being given a kingdom to rule, and at the beginning of season 9, Celestia and Luna announce their upcoming retirement, stating that Twilight will rule Equestria in their stead. Could this have been foreshadowing?
I think that celestia is the only Known pony at that moment that can move celestial objects (think about her name I think that is implicit her abilityes in it) Iam agree with you that the tree of armony made celestia take the desitions to set the thinks in motion). These are my points
1 like1.celestia doesnt seems worried about knightmare moon return because she had plans to deal with it ( she doesnt have plans for the other villians and her actitud is les confident in the other cases)
2.-she know a lot about armony and frienship— she must know that because of the tree ( celestia isnt perfect)
3-she free discord later in the show why not her own sister.
Thanks for the vid i really like to follow you
Look up lunas cutie mark it might help also
0 likes1.What is flurry hearts cutie mark? How did she get it?
2.If cadence retired an flurry rules the empire where did cadence go? she might not know where celestia and Luna were born.
3.If twilight steps down who would rule would what's her name( I forgot her name but she was like twilight in the last episode saying friendship is useless)be an Alicorn because spike and the rest of the mane 6(not including twilight)would have to pass on eventually if so would starlight rule or maybe her student(I forgot her name)would she rule alone or not and would starlight rule alone or with sunburst
4.If twilight retires where would she go because like cadence she might not know where celestia and Luna were born and she might not be able to go back to ponyvillie because of being a princess or she announced it to everyone ahead of time unless somehow celestia and Luna wrote to twilight and cadence where they live and could move in with them then...yeah.
5.Did celestia and Luna go back to where they were born?They might've because of family and stuff but they probably didn't because of something terrible or normal that happened. When I say terrible I mean banishment for something they might've gotten blamed for or actually did. And when I say normal I mean like they reached a certain age where they can leave there home and start a family of their own.
6. The Book. Who wrote the book where did it come from what does the symbol on it mean?
7.The Flowing mane and tail. Like Celestia,Luna and Twilight cadence should have that flowing mane and tail but what does it look like and how come only the bigger Alicorns can have them? Flurry heart for instance she has been an Alicorn all her life but she doesn't get a flowing mane and tail do they have to earn it?
8.School for flurry heart. Where did flurry go to school? Was it the school of friendship or maybe a school in the crystal empire if so was she popular because of her parents or she is an Alicorn? did the students bow to her?
9.Traditions. Like Nightmare Night and the summer sun solstice did twilight get her own holiday? If so what would it be called???
Those are all my questions and theories sorry if it's long I always wondered these :p
@Pika _Gurl I thought there was literally evidence she was a pegasus and besides earth pony's get cutie Mark's and they ain't magical pegasi are magical they have the magical ability to fly
1 like@Raccoon Pop25 or a father,mother,or brother
0 likes@Raccoon Pop25 or other family member
0 likes@P M not really the rainboom had nothing to do with it I will think about why in the shower
0 likes@Lps Reby Touché
0 likesI believe that starsworld realise nightmare moon because there used to be a main six that raise the sun before Celestia maybe starsworld studied and made a spell to raise the stars
0 likesThe Brony Notion in season nine the episode where angel and flutter shy switch bodies when angel is talking to the vet in fluttershys bodies he said he wanted to marry discord. Well it sounded like it at least
0 likesTabnaitor ꨄ Not in the MLP world
0 likesCan we do a theory about Tempest PLZ!!! Or about the fact that nobody knows her cutie mark!?
0 likesWe're literally told they are the same size. We can't assume that because they live in a mythological world, things like stars and the sun are "close and small". Evidence must be provided to claim such a thing. Especially not when Twilight has astronomy books that describe objects like comets with the near same definition as our own.
0 likesHere's a question: why are there more of ponies then other creatures.
1 like@Evan Cahill The name of the country is Equestria, and it serves as the main setting for the show. It's only natural that we'd see ponies more than any creature.
1 likeI have a theory that starswerl the bearded was controlling the stars and cealistia was helping him by gathring the main six
0 likesstarsirl? the name makes sense
0 likes@Edriane Pedraza Not all ponies have human counter parts and same for humans to ponies. She simply may not even have one. We know pony Sunset has been there a long time but that doesn't mean she will indefinatly have a human counterpart.
1 like@Pika _Gurl Other ponies have been shown to have magic so why would she need to be a unicorn? Plus there is evidence of her being born a pegasus with what the show gave us.
0 likes@LucasHFTheWolf Dragoons have been shown to have longer lives than ponies. Torch is shown to have been at his full grown hieght beofre the elements of harmony were even a thing and yet he is still a live and well- only passing the septar because tradition.
1 like@Cameo Shadowness what does that have to do with wat i said
0 likes@LucasHFTheWolf That means he doesn't have to pass his role so early and could continue to rule with whomever is next to pass on the wisdom and such. Plus one major flaw in your thing was you assuming Twilight would drop her role super quickly (within her generation which makes no sense.)
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness no i mean what if she does for a few days cuz of.....something
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness u beach
0 likes@LucasHFTheWolf
0 likesOh, I get it now. In the end, I don't see there being anyone suddenly taking her spot even with that. Those days' duities will be pushed aside (or done anyway with the sun/moon). And be picked up later.
Tabnaitor ꨄ yeah in our world ,but in the Mlp the sun is the sun and the moon is the moon,and in the mlp world the sun revolves around us and not otherwise like in our world
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness hmm, not that I don't believe you, but isn't the human world supposed to be an alternative world of Equestria, the other Mane 6 and the Other 3 Princesses were there, which I'm just confused why Sunset and Starlight aren't at the human world, to think that, why are the Human shadowbolts aren't at Equestria, that reflects on what your saying, not every pony or every human on both worlds have an alternative pony or human, which is the reason why I really wanna know what does The Brony Notion thinks about it since every theory he makes has very explainable meanings that make it a very nice theory, thanks for noticing my comment tho😊
3 likesYou don't know so you can't say anything .😐😑
1 like@Edriane Pedraza oohhh I see! Alright then :3
1 likeStory: "On the day of the thousandth year. The stars will aid in her escape, and she'll bring about nightime eternal.
1 likeTranslation: "On the day of the thousandth year. The elements will release Nightmare Moon from her prison, and Luna shall regain control of the moon and stars once again for years to come."
In short, The Elements took a gamble in finding in their true bearers and got Celestia got her family back.
Edit: Keep in mind that the sun is basically one big star. So I say it is still possible that the Tree did indirectly move the stars through Celestia in some way. Maybe by tapping into Celestia's magic in some way without her realizing.
@Shadow Spectrum Swordtails (Triple S) wait, what is your profile pic?! It looks super familiar
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness not sure. I just found it. Though it does kind of look like that magic circle from Celestial advice. Don't it?
0 likes@Shadow Spectrum Swordtails (Triple S) Yeah and it reminds me of an artist I found on Devient art a few years ago who also made arcane circles based on MLP.
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness which one?
0 likes@Shadow Spectrum Swordtails (Triple S)
0 likesThe guy who made this:
https://www.deviantart.com/sierraex/art/Arcane-Celestia-277921397
@Pika _Gurl she started as a Pegasus
0 likes@Pika _Gurl she started as a Pegasus
0 likesOMG 😉 hi.
0 likesEvan Cahill 🙃
0 likesThe Brony Notion WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HEAK Y DIDN’T YOU SAY THAT IN THE VIDEO
0 likesthis is not about this but in the episode with the friendship fire why would they have celstia and luna on there flag and wasn't that supost to be long long ago would they even know what an alicorn was i think this is weird
1 likei told my dad about this theory of mine and said he that earth ponies should rule becuase they are the thing that both the unicorn and pegasiy have in commen the pony part
0 likesBrony didnt grogar transform into discord? So grogar possibly isnt real this is also a video idea
0 likesI have to ask,can you make a video about who opened the book in the beginning and the end of MLP?
0 likesme em usts
0 likesWhy are you not posting video please post now
0 likesThis video is really great! But now I have a question...how has Celestia not find a husbo in a 1000 years?!
0 likesCadence did not start out as a Pegasi she said in a episode I quote and I quote “I still need to get used to these wings”or something like that.
1 likeI think I know who can control the stars, sun, and moon and what would that pony be? Well remember in the season 8 episode horse play that a unicorn was one of the unicorn who rise the sun but what if that unicorn can rise the moon too just like Luna and in a episode how gospel about Starswirl and say this teleportation Dimensional calibration Transfiguration, you can tell us how powerful starswirl well is because what happen with the stars Aim nightmare moon escape she was teleportation back to the earth and starswirl can go to dreamworld and comforting the scares before Luna and I think starswirl The bearded what’s the one who makes nightmare moon escape!
0 likesYou know the place where twilight went with celestia and saw those memories and turned her Into allicorn well I think it was dreamland so maybe if twilight writes either maybe friendship stuff or maybe star swirls spells in that spell book of star swirl the bearded with mane six and elements of harmony then maybe that crazy explosion will happen again transport her to dreamland and ege could maybe even do Luna job along with celestia but yo clone herself?? Well you know that river and the cave where pinkie pie went to then maybe somehow they can fo this please reply tell what you think and have a thought of considering making a video theory thing on this please I'm your biggest fan and subscribed clicked that bell everything and I'm only 9 years old and figured this al, out myself so um thankyou oh and please could you give me lime a shout out or something it would mean the WORLD to me please thanks
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@Raccoon Pop25 nooo because now mlp is finished ass
0 likesThe stars never move there always be therejust we cannot see them
0 likesThe answer is Twilight, all be by mistake.
0 likesI think the tree has something to do with that
0 likes@Edriane Pedraza same on my mind
0 likesWhat if releaseing nightmare moon/Luna was just another part of the tree testing the main six
0 likesAnd our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning if it moved we would only see a difference 8 minutes later.
0 likesBut in mlp it's basically instantaneous, meaning their sun is probably going around their earth
@Geeta Nitave he is in limbo
0 likesBut he might have casted a spell that protects the alicorn sisters
And he did control the sun before celestia
@Tabi.dolphin ꨄ not in mlp
0 likes@Moonglow72 not in mlp
0 likes@Blake Wickman our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning that it would take 8 minutes before we would see our sun move
0 likesIn mlp it is instantaneous, meaning their sun is way to close to be bigger than their earth (they would then burn to death)
And remember they could have lived in a nightless equestria. or come from the everfree forest, remember they said that it is "unnatural" because it doesn't need ponies to function, plants grow, clouds move, etcetera
Or they might even have come from simply another dimension
Discord has the ability over all reality and the spirit of harmony is basically just the same opposite spirit.
0 likesSo yes it could have been the tree
2nd theory, how did nightmare moon know about the prophecy?
0 likesBecause she released herself
We know celestia can move the moon with the sun, so luna can probably move the sun with the moon
That means luna can move the sun, moon and stars (the stars always move with the night) maby it just took 1 thousand years to mobe the stars individually
@Pika _Gurl that's what I said
0 likes@Vincent Angiolo limbo
0 likes@gurtison limbo
0 likes@Some Guy that uses the internet uuuuuumm our sun is too big to orbid thier earth
0 likes@avecesar28 discord, luna, spirit of harmony probably
0 likes@Sophie Woods tooo big and ours is 8 light minutes away, meaning that it would take 8 minutes before we notice movement, not in mlp
0 likes@Maddy Jaye he did say that yes, but that just means HE is a fluttercord shipper
0 likes@Cody Cartwright we CAN assume they are close and small, our sun is 8 light minutes away, meaning that it would take 8 minutes before we notice movement, but that isn't the case in mlp
0 likes@Evan Cahill because other creatures live outside equestria
0 likes@Meshare Alqahtani limbo
0 likes@VX lombo
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness to cast a spell
0 likes@Cameo Shadowness he is old because he is dragon lord
0 likesHe siad "I have been around longer than any of you can remember"
@Blake Wickman like I said, they could have even come from another dimension for all we know, they never give us this answer
0 likesBut maybe the sun was able too move but then something happened. Like I said we don't know
Though thinking about this got me wondering, on the final of season 8 they said "when the sun set's on the 3rd day, all magic will be gone" mmmmmmmmm AND it was night when cozy was defeated, but it was day when they started
@Blake Wickman another thing that can explain why the sun needs to move
0 likesStarswirl said that he is the one that kept the everfree Forrest at bay, AND the one who raised the sun.
So what if the everfree Forrest moved the sun (we know plants grow and clouds move without the help of ponies) but when ponies started living there and pushing it back it no longer had the power to move the sun, so then it was Starswirl's responsibility to take that place and move it
hey i know who relised nightmare moon it was the Pony of Shadows
0 likesShanessa:I'm pretty sure it is twilight
0 likes@Deepa Vardham what?
0 likesWait since celestia banished night mare moon to the moon shouldn't she still have her powers during the times in the moon
0 likesYa where is the human sunset there's a human form and pony form of each of the main six
0 likesStarswirl is in limbo
0 likesHey notion please check some of the theories in the comments and make a follow up!! Really excited about this one its a great topic bound to be lots of thoughts!!
2 likesdid u see my comment if not please read it uv missed something
0 likesOMG
0 likes@bronynotion ok watch first episode of my little pony ok watch the part where twilight asks spike to wright a letter ti celestia to warn her about the escape of nightmare moon you know therebis a unicorn statue head nexto big hourglass right watch as twilight passes it the unicorn statue turned into the head of nightmare moon please make video on this
0 likes@LucasHFTheWolf ik but the rainboom is what pushed them to find their destiny and nightmare moon spirit would never have been stopped
0 likesCatVlogger101 The queen u
0 likesTwilight might have relesed nightmare moon
0 likesI like this idea a lot, but it got me thinking what if when someone is taken over by "the nightmare" Or what ever took over Luna's body when she got jealous of Celestia, they are still themselves subconsciously trying to get out of the grasps of the creature after realizing what they have done is bad, what if Luna was able to get free for a few seconds to move the stars and aid in her own escape just before the creature took over Luna's body again. I know there is no proof of any pony moving the stars but I think that bc Luna was originally in charge of moving the moon that, it would inquire moving the stars slowly over time, or moving them quickly to help the fait of equestria, thus aiding herself to get free in hopes there was someone in equestria that could finally bring the real her back to her big sister.
0 likes@Pika _Gurl this is true but I think in the crystal heart spell book (guaranteed it's not technically cannon) it said that Cadence has a small bit of her own kind of magic in her, which is what allowed her to spread the magic of love.
0 likes@Tabi.dolphin ꨄ .... Oooooo damn
0 likesLol true that
0 likesI know who is Celestia and Luna's parents are. they only have one parent. and that is the tree of Harmony. the tree created Celestia and Luna with its infinite Magic. but Celestia and Luna would only have a tiny portion of the tree of Harmony Magic. the tree gives Celestia the control of the Sun. and Luna the control of the Moon. when the tree of Harmony First branched into the tree Harmony we know today. the tree of Harmony gave birth magically to Celestia and Luna then starswirl the bearded went to check up on the tree. starswirl saw the birth of Celestia and Luna.
1 likeWhat
0 likes😶😯
0 likesBasicly can hoomans visit pony ville and still be hoomans?
0 likesYes but way stars not in day in equestria
0 likesAt the end twilight on the 2 episode said, "but you sad it was an Ol' foals tail." Then Celesta says, " I told you, you needed to make *FRIENDS*." Isn't that also a clue?
0 likesThank you
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0 likesWhat
0 likesTree manipulating things seems like the best guess honestly.
0 likesI got a friend who has a whole theory on that but he hasn't written up on it yet so I'll just say I found it plausible that their sun and stars are like are, though of course this is not necessarily the case. More interesting is that the stars don't move when the Moon and Sun are... this means the sisters CANNOT be rotating the planet, or the stars would appear to move about the pole! I hadn't noticed that before... Anyway, the 4 stars around the moon could easily be planets. This would indicate those are themselves somehow different from ours as planets in our world don't move nearly that quickly, and Mercury necessarily is always near the Sun.
yah I think it was celestia
0 likesCan you make a theory proving that the sun in that Universe isn't a star because until then this just seems like a cheap way to get out of the obvious flaw in your theory
0 likeseven then, I reckon she'd have control over the stars regardless.
0 likesone can even say luna has control over the moon AND the stars, since both factors disappear when the sun rises, meaning it can support your argument that stars may not be as far from earth as it is in our world, as, if it WERE close, it'd still be visible in the morning sky
now, by this time, celestia has been controlling the moon and the sun. meaning she had to have control over the night sky, thus possibly even having control over the stars as well.
plus, Celestia is the only influential pony we have that can have a 'vision' while being old enough to pass it off as a legend.
Maybe, similar to how in Christianity, God had to send Jesus for saving humanity, Celestia had to fake a vision, pass it off as a legend, have her destiny student read the legend, and have the student THEN meet her destiny friends to counteract the 'threat' then she just have to pull a bit of light show, and manually getting Luna off the moon herself. this explains why celestia was gone without anyone else noticing until Luna's arrival.
She probably did this because
1: she had a vision of other, worse events that are going to be resolved by a team of ponies with the virtues of the pillars
2: her using the elements of harmony on her sister will not reform luna, so she had to nurture a new set of users to embody it.
3. probably saw a vision of twilight having to have understand the meaning of friendship as a path to becoming a princess, and a successor to Canterlot/Equestria
this also explains why now, of all times, she decides to hold her summer sun celebration on ponyville
tl;dr Celestia faked the whole thing, beginning to end, setting off signs that was actually controlled by her, and her orchestrating everything till her 'arrival'.
There are two twilights one born in human dimension one born in equestria and the sunset we know is from
0 likesEquestria then where is human sunset???
Sawtooth Waves star swirl he controls the stars
0 likesLol the pain of raising infinite stars/Suns cause well, same thing
0 likesAnd also in "royal problem "celestial said that raising the moon is easier than raising the Sun (wasn't she the one who was raising the moon when lona wasn't their? )
0 likesQueen galaxia can control the stars because stars are in galaxy
0 likesQueen galaxia is celestia and luna's mother
0 likesI know that btw I LOVE YOUR VIDS!!!!! I AM A HUGE FAN OF YOU AND MY LITTLE PONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesI'm your fan Sawtooth waves :)
0 likesSawtooth Waves your ok
0 likesaa
0 likesI think their is a third sister
0 likesI Love you Sawtooth Waves
0 likeswell in all science form the sun is tecnically a star so its posible that celestia controls the sun and when luna was banish to the moon celestia was raising the sun , moon and stars....
0 likesCatVlogger101 The queen ,l
0 likesWer are your wrld
0 likesNitmironz ascap was grog
0 likesBut who moves the stars
0 likesO que você disse?
0 likesYo you are wrong i made an oc that i make cannon and its lunas daughter and can control the stars
0 likesI love your videos
0 likesTell me who controls the Stars if you know it's okay but why
0 likesOoooooohhhh i get it now
0 likesWow
0 likesTHE SUN IS A STAR
0 likesOk
0 likesI LOVE YOUR VIDS
0 likesYou all are wrong. Star swirl was vanishes over a 1000 years when he and the other send the shadow to the limbo he first appearance in Season 7.
0 likesSawtooth Waves If Star Swirl moving the stars
0 likesSawtooth Waves o I like your videos
0 likesI think the Pony that controls the Stars is Twilight because if you look at her cutie mark it's Stars and I think that there's something that has a connection to them
0 likes@Melody Music No her cutie mark represent magic.
0 likes@Youssef Hany I know it was just an idea
0 likes@Melody Music ok. And I have prove for it
0 likes@Youssef Hany ok but you really didn't have to I'm trying not to start an argument and thank you for taking the time out of your day to correct my idea and I hope you have a good day I hope we can just leave it at that
0 likes@Melody Music You got it wrong, all what I meant is to tell you nothing more. Hope you have a good day as well.
0 likes@Youssef Hany sorry for taking it the wrong way
0 likes@Melody Music It's okay
1 likeI've always headcannoned that it was twilght (subconsciously possibly) who aligned the stars because they look alot like her cutiemark.
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0 likesI think In day the large amount sunlight☉ make the stars in visible and in night the the less moonlight 🌚make the stars visible 🌟
0 likes🤔👍🤔🤔🤔😱
0 likes@Edriane Pedraza you are right but with out the theory I'm a little scared
0 likesCOULD IT BE CELESTIA AND LUNA’s PARENTS
0 likesTbh...this may be a long shot. But what if Twilight was the one who moved the starts. Not knowingly however, but maybe her will? Because in future episodes she became a star as she became an alicorn, she has raised both sun and moon, and in the end it could of set the whole timeline up from that one point.
0 likesGo and read my comment
0 likesIn real life stars despair in the day I think so that the same system on the equestria
0 likesYeah if you follow the tweet from Faust and take it into account of our world/universe then the answer would just be gravity... which would make sense if Nightmare could get into a trajectory for earth but Nightmare would've burned up in the atmosphere and I doubt an alicorn could survive the blistering heat of reentry in our world.
0 likeswho controls the stars? What is the sun? A star. and Princess C. Controls the sun. So she controls the sun and the stars.
1 likeI think day breaker sent nightmare moon free like why would she free a villain?
0 likesActually, we can assume that in their universe there are stars big enough to allow terrestrial planets to rotate around them. In the Big Mac Question, Granny Smith has a dream that she is “exploring strange new worlds”, and while this could be referring to planets in their solar system, I think it is more likely suggesting that their are other solar system and that ponies are advanced enough to know about them. Especially when you consider the fact that in her dream Mud Briar was supposed to be an alien, and if they have a good enough understanding of their solar system they would know that aliens don’t exist, unless their were more solar systems. We know they have an advanced knowledge of the solar system because Pinkie Pie day dreams about the other planets (which I assume are the same as ours) while formulating a plan to break into the castle. So lets just say you just got debunked.
1 like@Raccoon Pop25 that’s what I am saying
1 like@Blake Wickman mabye equestria is set in our world but is a post apocalypse era, where the sun needs help from magic.
0 likes@Edward Zero mabye the stars are controlled by starswirll. (Subconsciously when he was in limbo)
1 likeEquestria girls is set in the modern day and the mirror is actually a time device.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg Ooo I didn't think of it like that! Maybe!
0 likes@Blake Wickman 👍
0 likesBut celestia had taken the job of raising the Sun and moon which means she would take the stars too
1 likeYes.
0 likesok ok...yay
0 likesAre the good people are good well I don't think so I think there the bad one
0 likesRemember the pony who trap the blue goat she was the only on to control the stars
0 likesHi hello what are you hi hello what are you let’s play together my friend and you are I hope you like this song bro hello
0 likes@*えいみこ*
0 likesWwww
You may need to make a new video on my comment I posted before this
0 likesYeah no... I remember an episode where luna was having trouble in bringing the night (she’s missing the stars) then Celestia said “I’ll help you with the stars if you help me with the sun tommorow.” So this means Celestia can control the stars.
0 likesLuna
0 likesI love that
0 likes@Nova Witherfall 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
0 likes@Nova Witherfall haaaa😡🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️
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0 likesWatch this at 6:37 https://youtu.be/mX0WVX4Hkn8
0 likesThe stars aligned, hm...twilight sparkle the star were sparkling and when twilight look at the stars the stars were moving and there was some stars that were sparkling in twilight 's mane.
0 likesDude you need to read my comment scroll down until you see my profile and read it all tou will need to make a new video!
2 likesSawtooth didn't Lauren Faust also say celestia and luna were born as alicorns remember?
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi yes true but still but twilight has the name and now she DOES control the moon and sun right? The beginning of the end season remember?
0 likes@Hariku- ! r u trying to say twilight balled out nightmare moon
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi not really just saying that twilight might JUST might control the stars not saying that she bailed out nigh mare moon
0 likes@Hariku- ! firstly what conacts twilight to the stars Lauren Faust asked who controls the sun,moon and stars.
0 likesSecondly twilight controled the sun and moon after season 1
@Hariku- ! what conacts twilight to the stars
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi simple her element and cutie mark
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi there in a shape of a star epically her element
0 likes@Hariku- ! see that's what a mean it represents her destiny as well as her element of harmony not. Meaning that she doesn't control the stars,btw in the episode boost bustars if twilight controlled the stars she could have send the Ursa major to the sky
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi hm..I guess you are right ✅
0 likesHi your awesome
0 likes@Myka Valentine hmm.. good point
0 likesI think Grogar is controlling the stars
0 likestree of harmony tree of harmony
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesInteresting
0 likesboyy!!! who controls the sun ?,, celestia ,, what is the sun? A STAR!!!! BOOOM
0 likesBut still the sun there could be a star or it could be something different but in the knowen universe how would we know if the sun is a star or not it could be or it couldn’t be a star
0 likesAlso there could be a Alcorn that controls the star or even star light glimmer cus her name and powers make perfect sense. She was named after the stars and her powers are almost beyond a regular alacorns so it would make sense she did it
0 likesI think it,s T.W!
0 likesyou mean reality-
0 likesheh your theory is good as a theory look up on google BIG BRAIN
1 like@Juno!! 3 sister? Huh what is going on her? If Luna is the third who is the first and second
0 likesAlr but srsly make more vids
0 likesisn't that an excuse to keep the theory and contradict the creator? lmao
0 likes....
1 likemaybe it was gusty who controled the stars?
0 likesI guess luna control the star so she was posited by night mare moon so what if the last bit of magic left in the castle did the retern of night mare moon
1 likeI think since Celistia raises the sun and Luna raises the moon and later in season 9 Twilight raises the moon and the sun only alicorns having lot of magic can control the sun ,moon and stars or ponies like Starsworld Or Starlight Glimmer can control the stars
2 likesOk
1 likeI think I know who moved the star translumina was furnished to the moon Luna bhoot the stars to bring naat anything malpani
0 likesSorry for Radha unicorns exist
0 likesI think it's either a greater force than Celestia or a literal god- Lauren Faust herself
0 likesmaybe is Celestia cus the sun is a star so she can control the stars too
0 likesWhat if it was the elements of harmony, who freed Luna from the moon. I know, that ,, Lullaby for a princess” is just a fan made, but this might explain, how Celestia’s hair changed from pink to this multicolor and why she just SAW the process.
0 likessame i am stuck
0 likesI think the dark magic that luna gained was strong enough to bail her out think about it after episode 1 when nightmare moon was defeated not all the dark magic went and some of it escaped it would have to be really strong to do that or idk someone help my brain
0 likesYou don't punch.
0 likesTwilight because of here cutymark
0 likesI think i might know who set nightmare moon free. Laurel asked " who controls the Sun, moon, and stars. Meenwhile nightmare moon was stuck at the top of the moon celectia controled the Sun and moon. I know i dident way anything about the stars but I still think celectia is behind all of this.
0 likesPrince and princess.👰👸💂
0 likesWhy do you trust king thorax sawtooth he's just chrysalis's good for nothing son.
0 likesStart for the bearded free Nightmare Moon
0 likes@steve graham I don't think so and it's starswirl.
0 likes@steve graham nope!! he was in limbo at the time
0 likesTwilight
0 likesIn my little pony magic princess games... Description of princess celestia is "princess celestia the ruler of equestria. Responsible for raising the sun, moon and the stars" :)))
0 likes@Little Swan she was not happy with what her sister did.
0 likesthe sun is a star so she can control the stars
0 likes@Nicole klepar yeah
0 likes@Nicole klepar sillyponies
0 likesTHANK YOU!
0 likesokay
0 likes@*えいみこ* same ;-;
0 likes@Pika _Gurl no
0 likesDid you not get it but I’m starting to think we should look at some ponies with starcutey marks but do they have a third sister Celestia Luna f please answer me
0 likesSTAR-light glimmer, let's face it. With luna in control, no one really could have anything to do after all they all did luna's bidding and so they wouldn't want a cutie mark and would go to starlight to join her cult. I mean why else did starlight make a timeline of luna's rule?
1 likeits a riddle. who does control the stars? who has a galaxy on their cutie mark?
0 likesim still not sure thats entirly true but ok
0 likesme realising that that star just might be a piece of rock to a failed alicorn experiment back in time.
0 likesWell yeah
0 likes"I saw the signs of Nightmare moon's return" could also mean Celestia saw the signs of the Mane six finally coming together, and so she released Luna from the moon since everything was ready?
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she probably thought that sunset could do that until she got to the human world, maybe twilight wasn't the first choice?
38 likesyes
1 like@ShiningCrystal that's my opinion too, that she was training Sunset for that purpose but when she responded like she did, she had to do it all over again with Twilight. I wonder if she set anything up in the 900 previous years at all
35 likesYea
0 likesI think I know what she means by signs which isnt just the stars near the moon but stars on anywhere else because I spotted the same stars on big macs cutie mark when twilight was arriving to ponyvillie. Here is what I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ3_8RtFK4U&list=PLSPvGUObEN59THygwPgUSqn4UBLlufPnk&index=3 go to 0:44 and check Big Macs cutie mark
0 likes@MelonKitty so what does that mean
1 like@encanto fan I have no idea i just think its one of the signs
0 likesYeah right.
0 likesWhat a bunch of baloney.
0 likes@Blauer Mond it's bad enough thorax betrayed his mother chrysalis now he's replacing her.
0 likesAs changeling leader.
0 likes@Blauer Mond Only the mane 6 could bring her back
0 likesAbsolutely!!!
0 likesI think Celestia definitely set Luna free
0 likes@ShiningCrystal yeah maybe she did say sunset started being her student not long before twilight she wanted sunset to do the job before all that she wanted to be a princess but then she abandend her studying but twilight didint had the intress of princess and she became a princess herself
0 likesI always thought that Celestia banishing her sister to the moon with the elements of harmony set a 1,000 year timer for when she would escape.
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well there was something we missed, at the very begining. we were shown that celestia had twilights crown on so it was foreshadowing what twilights element looked like, i spotted it wile rewatching the first season but in season 4 celestia didnt have it on, maybe the animators forgot and went lazy half way through?
16 likes@ShiningCrystal huh? I’m a bit confused, are you saying that celestia was wearing Twilights crown when she banished Luna to the moon?
3 likes@Unicorn Number1 yes, i did spot it not so long ago, it was right infront of us this entire time! it was at the begining in the illustration as celestia was explaining how luna turned into nightmare moon
9 likes@Unicorn Number1 and, when twilight walked behind the timer in the first episode, nightmare moon appeared in the reflection!
3 likes@ShiningCrystal no, it’s more a combination of celestia’s crown with twilights element on top in the form of a crown. I think what the picture was saying is that the crown on top of celestia’s crown is the elements of harmony, since twilights element shape seems to be in that crown, and the other elements have become embedded in those amulets with the gold, so they were probably the gold around the element of magic.
4 likes@Unicorn Number1 oh yes, but why did that not happen in the flashback of season 4? did the team forget about that detail?
1 like@ShiningCrystal yes, they did. The show writers never look into the show as deeply as the fans do -.-
2 likesSame
2 likes@Unicorn Number1 twilight's
1 likeSame here!
2 likesSamee
1 likeThat could be the tree. That timer might have been formed around the fact that the tree was going to test element carriers for 1000 years maybe?
0 likes@Catto the Crying no offence, but you might want to be more specific and say ‘tree of harmony’ next time cause at first I didn’t realise you meant that
0 likes@Unicorn Number1 oh! sorry, yeah i ment the tree of harmony
0 likes@Catto the Crying well if it was the tree of harmony ( which is by the way weakened without the elements of harmony ), I think it would be more like, having to wait 1,000 years for the element bearers to come
0 likes@Catto the Crying all good
0 likesFood for thought...
128 likesIf you think about it Starswirl, Celestia AND Luna can all raise the night sky and therefor the stars. However, notice that celestial objects can only be moved manually across a single axis (up/down, not East/west/etc).
So it is possible that Nightmare Moon was able to slowly, overtime, move the positions of nearby stars towards her and release herself using celestial magic.
In mythology the alignment of stars and planets triggers powerful magic (think of Hercules and the Titans escaping).
Celestia would have detected Nightmare Moon’s plans and calculated exactly when the escape could happen based on distance and rate of change; 1000 years later.
“Stars will aid in her escape,” would then be a literal translation of star-boosted magic. This is a simpler explanation that fits Faust’s tweet and the show’s canon.
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Ah, wrong comment, sorry.
1 likeI like this theory though
1 likeBut in Your theory, the stars gave her more power, on earth (if it is earth) wouldn't she have been more powerful than she was?
1 like@Kirk Lundberg oh hey you again
1 likethough there is a flaw with your theory.
1 likeyour saying luna is powerful but not powerful enough to release herself from banishment on her own.
but when she got trapped in sombra's magical circle thing which is IMPOSSIBLE to escape from with magic, she got out of there easily.
but it is an interesting theory:)
The titans never escaped during Heracles story or any version of his story besides the Disney version-
1 likeThe sun and moon can move in any direction because when Twilight gained all the alicorn magic in season 4 she struggled to line up the sun and moon. Celestia and Luna are just good at what they do
1 likeHypothesis: The thousand years in the moon was like a sentence Nightmare Moon had to serve, so that's why it was known/prophesied that she would escape a thousand years later. The magic Celestia used threw the world out of balance (since the sisters are meant to rule together) that it caused a backlash: Nightmare Moon breaking free and Celestia being encapsulated in the sun; however, the magic she used was powerful enough to delay this effect. Celestia foresaw the friendship of the Mane Six and the power they would possess (or at least the potential for it), and therefore orchestrated their meeting so that they could harness the Elements and defeat/redeem Nightmare Moon. This redemption caused the world to go back in balance (Celestia returning from the sun). Thoughts? :)
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Oooo very good theory 👍 it makes a lot of sense, with the theme of the show being balance and all.
0 likesWhen Twilight read the book I noticed something the stars represent her cutie mark and so is shining armours I mostly think Twilight because she is very organised and the stars were in a pattern that was organised I think
26 likesI thought the stars moved slowly every time celestia raised the sun and moon and she couldn’t stop raising them to maintain the harmony
22 likes"We've never seen anyone control the stars"
66 likesThe sun: am i a joke to you?
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oh now i understand=
2 likesStars... plural
1 likeYup. The sun is a star.
2 likesWell but we have
0 likesWhy si everyone forgetting the time twilight literally rearranged the the stars?
0 likes@dakota mahlau-heinert when did twilight do that?
0 likes@Gabby Hall season 9 sister vacation episode, literally organized the stars, kinda ruins any chances of the universe being more complicated or interesting
0 likes@dakota mahlau-heinert oh i didnt pay attentoin while watching season 9
0 likesI'm thinking maybe Grogar was actually the one who directly released Nightmare Moon, but he actually wasn't able to escape at all and he is still up there to this day... as the constellation Ares.
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isnt it Aries? Ares is apparently a christian name
0 likesI think your Grogar theory is a good one, aside from the Cozy-allowed-for-Grogar-to-be-released thing for obvious reasons. That would mean Gusty's banishing spell would still be in place, much like the forcefield spell around the mountain. I'd just like to point out that it's mentioned Celestia brings out the sun each day and Luna brings out the moon and STARS at night. It's also mentioned that Celestia took on the power and responsibilities of her sister. This would point to Celestia being able to move the sun, moon, and STARS (like Lauren Faust commented). I still think your Grogar theory is more probable, just a thought ;)
2 likesI think the whole reason is that Celestia has made the Celestia's School of Gifted Unicorns is to find the one that could use the one that could use the Element of Magic. The one that showed the most promise of becoming the Bearer of Magic became her personal student. It took her a thousand years to find Twilight Sparkle. If Sunset Shimmer didn't have an ego she would have "found" the book telling about Nightmare Moon. Thought with a change so it wouldn't speak about the thousand year.
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Everyone ! Like this so he can see !!
4 likesAnyways, I like your theory a lot!
Beautiful theory ;o
4 likesI've always felt like that Celestia and Luna have a long-lost sister or something,
2 likesthe Princess of the Stars. I think she released Luna...
In rockhoof and a hard place, stars don’t move around too much
8 likesI know this probably sounds dumb. I havent seen all 9 season either( i kinda stopped at the start of season 5). Celestia can move a darf star form one part of the world to the next with ease. Would it be just as easy to move 4 of them to the moon to help her sister. I mean Celestia did put luna in the moon. Also where was Celestia in the first episode. She was no where to be seen till the verry end.
3 likesYou brought up some interesting points here, Sawtooth. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! ^_^
0 likesI wonder why those four stars were necessary. Wouldn't magic be all that was needed? If Celestia really were responsible, I suppose the stars could have been orbs of her own magic set to let Nightmare Moon out at the right time.
The Tree potentially being involved is a cool idea, but we don't know how powerful it is without the Elements. It also doesn't seem to be capable of remotely controlling the Elements if we look at the episode "Princess Twilight Sparkle" as an example. If the Tree were powerful enough to release Nightmare Moon on its own, maybe freeing her weakened it enough to allow Discord's plunderseeds to sprout. Alternatively, the Tree could have sent Celestia helpful visions like the one she had about Tirek to influence her actions. Maybe it even gave her the Mare in the Moon prophecy and showed her who the next Element bearers would be.
Why wait a thousand years though? Surely Celestia tried looking for new Element bearers to get Luna back ASAP? The Mane Six can't be the ONLY worthy ones around. Look at the Young Six.
Thanks for your time!
She couldnt live with herself having trapped her sister in the moon, so she had to save her
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Great theory
0 likesIt either this, it’s a shape of a cutie mark. Or nightmare moon got turned back into Luna and nightmare moon made her escape 👀
12 likesI’ve always liked the 3rd sister theory of the stars, albeit we haven’t had much evidence for it except nephew blueblood, and the prophesy. I think it makes good fanfiction material.
0 likesShe said that she "saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return." We're assuming that that refers to the movement of the stars, but that may not be the signs she is referring to. The Sonic Rainboom that awakened the Mane Six's Cutie marks may have been the sign.
1 likeIn Twilight's flashback, we see that Celastia is outside seconds after it happens, we don't see her seeing it, but as the ruler of the heavenly bodies, you're going to notice a rainboom radiating out across Equestria. The next instant she enters into the classroom where Twilight is roided out on magic and, immediately after calming her down, makes her her apprentice. Nit to mention that Twilight's Cutie Mark is the central image on the Tree of Harmony. I would not put it past Celestia to have investigated the origin of the boom and any other pony's that gained their cutie marks at the time. These are the signs that Nightmare Moon, would be freed and reddemed.
Well in the first episode luna raised the moon celestial said "ill help you raise the stars tonght if you help me with the sun in the morning" so it possible she did controle the stars while luna was gone
3 likesthe sun is a star, so maybe she has at least a little control over stars
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Actually that’s smart
92 likesI think the probably CAN control the other stars...but it would be more difficult
64 likesGreen Star but they don’t live in the same world as us
23 likesI thought that too. I wonder if the other stars are really controlled by her. If not, could you imagine if there was some creature on ever solar system that had Celestia's power, and could control their own sun? Wouldn't that be rad?
22 likesYou know planets and true and smart :)
8 likesThat's totally true 😱
7 likesI didn't think about that
In that case celestia would have removed cosmos' stars and revert her to her base in the comics so that might be false
6 likes@???? Doesn’t change the fact that the sun is star (not trying to be rude)
7 likesYeah maybe celestia released nightmare moon with her star magic
4 likesYa
2 likesit could also explain why it took 1000 years since they are far away, she could start to move them as fast as she knew it would help to free Luna but it took that time
7 likesWhat if the stars are just small dots in mlp universe,and when Luna/Celestia rise the moon the stars are just rising with the moon its like she is rising the night actually
2 likesM thoughs only🤔🤔
1 likethe sun is a star in your world but in the mlp world it be not
1 like@tomioka giyuu we cant ve sure if it isnt star actualy, I never heared it explicitely in show
1 likeThat is true that the sun is a star so it would make sense for her to control the star as well as the sun
2 likes@Lunar Hexagon since your making assumptions, who wrote the book that the stars would aid in her escape, did celestia herself write that, or was it a prediction of someone else.
1 like@ArcheIsHere maybe it was already known kind of spell to send someone to moon or similar stuff so she just knew from previous uses of it or if magic in MLP universe has science-like properties (can be learned, new spells are created and stuff so is possible), she could discover to use stars as "anti-spell", also she could time travel after something bad happend (Discord, Tirek, Luna getting back herself or any other stuff) so she made sure to avoid such a scenario, timetravel is canon and Celestia is much more powerfull than Twilight so she surely could travel back for 1000 like years
0 likes@Lunar Hexagon yes celestia is powerful but celestia would only stay in the past for a few moments. Starlight Glimmer made a few adjustments and fixes with the previous time travel spell. And who even wrote the book where Nightmare Moon would release in due time. And IF celestia can time travel why didn't she stop her sister from turning into nightmare moon.
1 like@ArcheIsHere we dont know how long it took Luna to be NMM, I dont think it was that one moment so she maybe didnt knew when change it or also she maybe didnt went to past herself, she just could send book or instructions while it was late anyway for Luna to not become NMM
0 likes@Lunar Hexagon she can still throw the books earlier than that maybe 1 month before Luna becomes Best Villain Princess
1 like@ArcheIsHere but it wouldnt most likely help since it is late to prevent turn in NMM to prevent whole event to happen she had to find when she got past point of no return which is surely quite hard to do, and abybe show is just in timeline when she didnt hit such a point, Luna surely wasnt one day all OK and second just wanting to rule herself alone.. also, surely whole time-travel idea can be crab crap and didnt absolutely happend
0 likesI always had thought Luna was incharge of the stars because NIGHT. I mean Equastria isn't the real world and both the moon and the SUN are orbitting around the world, orbitting with some help from Celestia and Luna. But did Luna's powers just dissapear when she was sent to the moon? Did Celestia steal her powers? When she returned to Equastria, she still had her powers? Are both sisters able to control both the day and the night? This also is a question I have but onto the part we are about. This would make possible for both Celestia to free her or Luna to free herself and guess you got me there. Tree of Harmony is a possibility and not as the elements but it still has Celestia and Luna's cutie marks' on it's body. But what I think is nobody really helped her but the night, or stars or whatever itself. How did Discord come back? He was defeated with the elements of harmony, just like Luna. Discord is chaotic and the chaos between the crusaders set him free. And Luna's one power is the night. THE LONGEST NIGHT it was, wasn't it? If just a little bit of chaos set Discord free, it isn't surprising that the longest night set her free. Also before you ask:
1 likeBoth her and CELESTIA'S powers were at max but why the longest night, not longest day? She was trapped in the moon and the moon isn't up at the in daytime.
Or maybe the spell could only last for that long of a time. She made it last that much because she knew she would miss her sister and she probably thought a 1000 YEARS was enough time to think about everything you have done. Why specifically on the longest night? Because the ponies WOULD BE scared if they knew their belowed ruler had set the villian free on long term. Maybe they never told that they both could control both day and night and appareantly nopony was smart enough to question how Celesetia could gain control over night so easily. Since the ponies were only told as Celesti: day and Luna: night, they believed that the stars had a role whie it was just a cover-up.
These are my theories. I tried to make them get along with each as much as posible. I dont want my two theories just busting themselves.
smart!
1 like@Green Starbut they dont live in ower world in there world maybe the sun is not star
0 likesYou also have to remember that mlp universe works differently from our universe, the sun moves around thier earth. So thier sun is small
0 likesAnd IF the stars were the same as ours it would be light years away (too far for celestia to make a difference) our sun is only 8 light minutes away
@Ognjen the stars don't move, they only disappeare when the sun comes up
0 likesAnother reason to proof that they don't work with the same logic we do. The stars disappeare when it is day, but if the moon and sun are both in the sky then it is bothe day and night, stars on moon side no stars on the sun side
0 likes(btw I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you could be wrong)
That’s so true
1 likeSTARlight glimmer sound famliar
1 likeSTARlight glimmer
1 likeshit now it looks like i copied u when i didnt dare to read the comments and said something similar to it BUT I COPIED NO ONE!
0 likeslook at the pinned commet
0 likescelistia may control the sun witch is a star. but she said stars.
0 likesAnd maybe it was her doing because she missed her sister too much and she also said I knew you all had the magic inside to defeat her
1 likei like that theorie
0 likesit could be true
0 likesNO, IT’S NOT!!!! THE SUN IS NOT A STAR!!!!
0 likesUhhh well he said that equestria isnt connected to our worlf
0 likesI agree ☝️
0 likesIt is
0 likesYeah The sun is a Star , you have a big point
0 likes@Eeveton 64 Omg the pinned comment, I am so sorry I didn’t read the pinned comments before it was posted, I like seriously, the pinned comment was posted after mine, I couldn’t read it then
0 likesOof i was gonna write the same thing before i saw this.
1 likeOof
1 likeThe sun and the moon move lol
0 likesMakes sense
1 likei was so mad that he said "celestia doesnt control stars" MY GUY the fucking sun
0 likesLauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
2 likes"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of harmony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
I agree
1 likeThat makes since
0 likesThat is very smart
0 likesOMG yes!!! Celestia is the imposer!!(among us joke)
0 likes@???? but it would be similar right?
0 likesshe has control over you, green star..
2 likesyou're a star.. just green..
2 likesThe sun gave light to star and moon
0 likesThat is a good point
0 likesOhhhhhh know I feel dump lol
0 likesTheres a secret princess of stars nobody knows who they are
0 likeshey look I can just search it up and say: "Who controls the stars in mlp." And it will tell the answer 😂
1 likeMy 5th grade lessons are put to use
1 likeThat is what i was thinking
1 like@???? oh yeah
0 likes@Cosmic Axolotl I made my comment before he made his
0 likesyeah thats true
0 likesI was just going to type this comment
0 likesThat’s in our world but what about MLp world?
0 likesi think celestia and luna have more siblings we dont know about
0 likesyeah boooooyyyyy
0 likesI thought that too
0 likesShe is the princes of the stars
1 like@Yemariam Tewodros i think they have more family members we dont know that much about, maybe she has a little control over the stars but i also think they have relatives who controls other things in the universe. their relatives/brothers/sisters might live in other dimensions and they might send each other letters every now and then. just a theory tho, i have written down so many possible consepts on a paper and its endless. there is more stuff in the universe than stars, moon and light sources.
0 likes@Louise Bekken I think I saw their mother Queen galaxya
0 likesOk but celestia was only trained to raise the sun how was she trained to raise other stars the sun is not the biggest star at all
0 likesyeah the sun is a star
0 likes😈😇
0 likesIn our world
0 likesProlly not the equestrian planet(imma start calling it that)
The sun is a star
0 likesor the stars follow with the moon?
0 likesCelestia deliberately misled Twilight in that episode when she seemingly disregarded Twilight's concerns and called the Nightmare Moon prophecy a foal's story. So I don't see why she wouldn't do it again. Especially when she needs to hide how much influence she has over the passage of events.
1 likeI think i might have an idea who moved the stars- its.....STAR SWIRL THE BEARDED!
15 likesThere is two reosons:
1- after celestia goes aside.. there has to be a very powerful and good at magic kind of pony to move stars, and guess what? The first name that came in my mind was star swirl!
2- his name contains ‘star’ which makes me more suspicious on him 🤔
I still dont know if he and shadow pony were there when the stars moved and help nightmare moon escape....
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I mean yes and no because star swirl was in limbo stuck for 1000 years even when luna had gotten out, but like he said it could been the tree and who planted the tree star swirl also his gang, so probably star twirl new this was going to happen and he planned it for luna defeat, even though he was stuck his powers can still access the tree and the tree freed luna
1 likeBut the tree probably set luna free because it knows their was going to be element holders which can defeat luna but star swirl didn't know their were going to he elements, he just knew that it would set her free and defeat somehow but then it still wouldn't make sence , so for me i don't think it was the tree or star swirl, plus both can't move the sun or moon, i mean star swirl can only with his gang but rebecca said someone not a group until celestia amd luna appeared they can move sun and moon alone sooo... its not star swirl or the tree.
@MemeCraft Wasn't he trapped in limbo for 1000 years, as was Luna? Maybe he cast some sort of spell that would only take place exactly 1000 years in the future.
1 likeTo be fair its entirely possible celectia DID see the signs in a vision and sought out to recreate them as she thought where needed.
1 likeWhile i agree we cant make any decisions based off our worlds science in equestria however we can assume some things.
An example here is that in most mythologies if you have a deity of the Sun and Moon generally its either the god of the sun or the god of the moon that moves the stars and puts consolations in. More often then naught the deity of the moon HOWEVER at this current time celectia had control of all of them and its been shown that the stars vanish when no one controls the sun and moon and both are raised in the sky together. No stars on the night half. What's more i might be remembering incorrectly but when twilight rose the moon for the first time and lowered the sun stars didn't show up right away. it showed the same backdrop as if the sun and moon where still in the sky. Though to be fair this could be because twilight was just getting used to the powers the first time as we see but its still possible you need to put them there.
So I believe someone does in fact control the stars. While its possible there a constant that doesn't mean there not controllable.
and if its not like our world its entirely possible stars are easer for both sisters to control since they have aspects of both the moon and sun.
Moon = night time, Sun = light.
and we have see that both sisters can work well with the aspects alone for the most part.
So on a final note YES based on how celectia seems to act all through out the show from following destiny to guding ponies with her vissions and using everything at her desposal to get things done in a manner fate decrees i think its ENTIREL posible for celectia to say that line, Still be right, AND have done it all herself.
On aanother note she forsaw the whole thing and knew of the rhime. She also didnt seem to show ANY ressitance but if we look back at the first fight celectia and loona blas alicorn laser beems all over and had for sometimes before celectia god bucked into the elements room. So she could have faught back and i think even if she would have known she wouldbe weeker than her she would fight back a hundread percent if she didnt know there was a way for her to return to being luna again.
I’m still so confused my the Wizard Bathroom retcon because you’d think when there’s a bathroom that’s so important to the plot she’d skim her own book to see if she contradicts anything in the text.
0 likesIf I recall it right, there was a scene back in the season 5 finale that showed that even if Celestia, Discord, Grogar or the Tree of Harmony had nothing to do with Nightmare Moon's escape; she still would have found a way to escape the moon around that time. I say this because there was a scene back in the season 5 finale where Twilight and Spike got sent to a future were Nightmare Moon has un-opposingly ruled Equestria for many years with Celestia trapped in the moon. Also there was a comic book that showed Nightmare Moon's return even if Celestia chose "somepony" else to be her student instead of Twilight.
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He actually explains this in another theory that she was released by the forces of good/tree spirit :)
0 likesHonestly after the thing with Starswirl's unfinished spell and the tickets for the GGG, I had no doubt Tia would have trained Twilight for Nightmare Moon.
0 likesHey, remember what the narrator said in the first episode? "Celesta took over the responsibility to raise the sun and the moon" and Lauren said " sun, moon and stars" but this time the stars was mentioned 🤔
0 likesUnlike Discord, Celestia very much had an attachment to the villain that was being released. The reason I don’t think she was being hypocritical by calling Discord out is because she wanted her sister back, and was aiming for the Mane 6 to cure/purify her, whereas Discord had no real reason to want the villains he summoned around and only did it to test Twilight, not because he wanted to see them change. Celestia saw Luna as someone who needed to be rescued, while Discord saw the villains as a tool to train someone else.
1 likeFor some reason, I thought the elements of harmony had something to do with the stars.
1 likeI think Celestia saw the signs that would allow her to bring her sister back: Twilight and her friends were connected to the Elements of Harmony; Luna had been gone a thousand years, which is probably when the magic had weakened; she may have had a vision of her sister's return. So to aid her, she moved the stars to align in the perfect position for a counter spell.
102 likesI have a question that I always have in my mind, Where does Chrysalis came from? who are her parents? Does she' s the first Changeling? What is her origin?
0 likesI think it makes perfect sense that she released her from the moon because she's the one who put her there in the first place.
0 likesAfter thinking about this for quite a while and creating my own theory, I think that we should look at the premise of what "the stars, moon, and sun" and who controls them. We know that Luna and Celestia control both the sun and the moon. But who controls the stars? I read some of the comments saying about Starswirl, but I must bring this to the table... Starswirl was in Limbo at the time of the escape of Nightmare Moon. So who would be the next relation to star? I present you with this, Twilight Sparkle. Sure the name is not much to look at, but what sparkles? stars. Her cutie mark also is a star. Being alive and training under Celestia could have made her accidentally play a role in releasing Nightmare Moon.
0 likesWell the name "Celestia" means "of the heavens" in Latin, and another way of saying "of the heavens" is "of the stars". Also, considering Celestia had control over the sun and moon during the thousand years Luna was banished, it's not too far of a stretch to say that her magic extended to all celestial bodies, quite literally embodying her name.
0 likesOPE, and if she did?
508 likesI wouldn’t blame her-
That’s her sister-
AND, she also probably knew that Twilight would save her?
Theory before I watch the full one.
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was u4 e 4 gedet🤣🤣🤣
2 likesTwilight did it celestia only have the sun power and luna only has power over the moon
4 likesEdit:maybe it happened in her sleep and she didn’t know while it happened the next day
Not good enough theory
0 likesNot good enough theory
0 likesYari Abigail X3 OMG
0 likesBHASWATI DEY 😔 I don’t do this shit most of the time-
1 like@CakeMiix PlaysYT Twilight is the princess of friendship, she wouldn't have any reason to set Nightmare Moon free. If she DID use her magic, her horn would have glowed or they would have shown us.
1 likeLunarPhantom __ maybe it’s wasn’t put in the episode :T
1 like@CakeMiix PlaysYT Could be a possibility.
0 likesNo lunas dad he has power over the stares
0 likes@Lillie Hoffman Their parents weren't revealed yet and Celestia and Luna may have had normal parents. They could have been so special Star Swirl took them in and made them alicorns. Just a theory I watched--
1 likeNehal Imran that’s why I said she could have also did it in her sleep
0 likesI mean, I've always believed that Celestia released her so this isn't too far fetched of an idea to me
0 likesAnyone els notice that every one always comes back AFTER a thousand years ex. Discord, luna, star swirl, and the rest of the pillars
6 likesI think Grogar being behind the curtain was a brilliant idea. And, I know it was decided early into scripting, but that reveal was the worse thing in Gen4. BUT! It gave us a what if, what if he was back, and what he would had actually been like?
0 likesReleasing old villains would be within his character. After all his original character was a necromancer. The perfect opposite for The Tree Of Harmony. Wait Celestia released Nightmare Moon? I..........
Okay, even tho Faust no longer controls the canon of Gen4 she was involved with most of its' canon. The show's bible mentioned sea ponies after all, which ended up canon years down the road. And, she is the creator, so, unless the show itself (or the comics) said otherwise, why not trust her?
Yes after Alicorn Twi she said her original plan for Twi was impossible, she had planned it. She had it planted, she just ended up leaving before it was set in stone. And if there was ANYBODY that had the seer magical ability to unleash what was told to us as a PERMANENT SEAL it would had to be the one who set that seal, or a being far more powerful.
Whose more powerful than Celestia? Whose weaker is a better question. ^^; But you see my point. With Grogar revealed as a fake the only character in Gen4's lore that could had freed Nightmare Moon had to be Celestia, or a character we never got to see. I will point out 3 moments:
In the final Ep we are shown the Young6 battling a villain among those stain glass windows. Who was that? Are we going to see that battle in the S10 comics?
We get a final what if future from S5's final of Equestria as a desert wasteland. With the 2017 film I thought "Hey, this movie's villain might be the worse of them all that gave us that desert" but no, think about it. The Hippogriffs' home was only in ruin, and while the Storm King could had used the Alicorn magic to render Equestria to ash, what would he had gained?
Plus he would only have 3 Alicorns, or 2 if Cadance was killed off beforehand by Chrysalis, to gain power. Look at Tirek, he didn't lay Equestria to ashes. When we saw Grogar I thought "Finally, this guy had to be the cause with his round table of villains" but no he's a fake that wouldn't had been there without Twi.
Who rendered Equstria into that desert? Were we going to get that reveal as Cozy Glow's creator told me he had plans for her and that, being a manipulator, not all was what it seemed.
And finally, Celestia sent Discord to the Mane6 to be reformed. So that is canonally within her character. But if it wasn't her who released Nightmare Moon, would it had been the very villain who turned Equestria into a desert? Hm.....we never saw a what if future for Starlight, and the Sirens could've found that portal given time, hm......you know, what if Grogar was sealed within his own bell and was taking in the stolen magic? What happened to that bell by the way?
I think it was the tree of harmony when Celestia used the elements maybe the tree had more control at that moment than we thought
0 likesAnother spectacular and fantastic theory vid Brony Notion i love it, i remember when Lauren Faust confirmed that Celestia was responsible for Nightmare Moon's "escape", in fact my theory as to why Celestia released Nightmare Moon is because it's possible that she some how knew that the Mane 6 were the new Elements of Harmony and that they could free Luna from the evil she was under.
22 likesTechnically, Celestia had a reason to lie to Twilight about releasing Luna. What's that? Her TRUST.
1 likeTHINK, Would Twilight have reacted well to finding put her mentor purposefully released Night Mare Moon? JUST because she and her friends would become the barrers of the elements?
I don't think anyone would, so she used word play to keep Twilight's trust without actually lying.
That's my thought at least.
The sun is a star, so it's very, very possible for Celestia to be able to control other stars too, not just the sun
0 likesI’m pretty sure everyone knows the sun ☀️ is a star⭐️ dummy so celestia does control the stars ⭐️.
1 likeI honestly think that celesta did a spell to keep her in the moon for that amount of time it is possible
0 likes"surely you're not gonna argue with the show's creator"
90 likes"the birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen, it is beyond even our understanding"Replies (2)
Yeah lauren faust said that celestia and luna were born alicorns and then they said THAT when Flurryheart was born.
5 likes@Somebody Idk yea but there is a theory tell that Luna and Celestia aren't from equestria
5 likesSo thet make sense
Get out the moon and control the stars to see what they're doing
2 likesThe book said, "at the longest day of a thousand years, the stars will aid her escape", and I think Celestia moves the sun slower than usual so that the day becomes longer.
0 likesAlso the stars are grogar lol 😂
Fun fact:
4 likesSawtooth waves isn't a good alicorn.
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You're right
0 likesThey're a great alicorn
Guys, it's twilight. She went back in time after becoming princess and learning to control the sun and moon, as well as stars, and helped the stars move.
0 likesTbh, we have seen Celestia playing her subjects throughout the whole show. She didn't get her nickname Trolllestia for nothing. So, while I like your theory, I personally think it could be totally possible that Celestia freed Luna at the right time and the just saying that she wasn't involved. Kind of like trolling at another level. Also, we see how Celestia thinks about having to send Twilight away. She is worried about everything but the prophecy and I don't think that the princess who is able to forsee the future would put her best and favourite student purposely in danger. I think she freed Luna knowing that Twilight would find her friends and tem together being able to reform the princess of the night. Imo, Celestia worriying about if Twilight finds friends was more because she knew that, if the friendships fail, she would doom her own kingdom. So she gives Twilight the instructions to visit each of the other mane six and after making sure she did, Celestia freed her sister fully knowing that theane six are able to defeat Nighmare Moon.
0 likes"And if I punch someone" - and I immediately had to pause and go into hysterics, because I was not expecting that left turn as an example! 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesAren't stars the tiny versions of a sun? That's what my sister told me. Based off of what my sister said, If Celestia can control the sun and stars are a tiny version of the sun, that means Celestia could've let her sister escaped because of training for starlight sparkle! Or Celestia could've not handled the pressure by setting the moon and raising the sun, then working all day until night, set the sun and raise the moon, to be honest I'd want help from my sister after 1,000 years because there is new problems daily.
1 likeit’s honestly sad that I can’t read or write anything on mlp clips, but these videos makes up for it I love it
5 likesok so I have a theory.
216 likes"Who controls the sun, moon and stars?"
Of course we all assume that means Celestia since she is the only one we see that is able to control the sun and moon on her own. But the stars? We've only ever seen Luna be able to control them. And i agree with The Brony Notion in that while the sun is considered a star in our world, it may not be in Equestria.
Celestia was gifted the power to move the sun, and yet we see that she can move the moon as well. As such, i don't think it would be a stretch to assume that Luna could move the sun too.
And if that's the case, then Luna is the one who controls the sun, the moon and the stars.
And by extension, Nightmare Moon.
I'm proposing the possibility that Nightmare Moon broke herself out. After centuries of isolation in the moon, her moon, her anger would begin to grow. and she would use this anger to fuel her power enough that even in her prison she could control the stars. Ever so slightly. Until eventually, the stars would aid in her escape and she would finally have her revenge.
What do you guys think?
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That would be pretty cool
7 likesMaybe
4 likesSCIENCE
4 likesChad GMT i am guessing star swirl broke her out to test twilight
2 likesYes it is all in the name of...
7 likesMaGiC
raju melwani how can Starswirl break her out he is still trapped in limbo that time
5 likeswoah it could be because we have never seen Equestria before
0 likesWow that is super duper long dude
0 likesraju melwani I don’t think so because star swirl was in limbo he couldn’t have any power to do anything.
3 likesBut ... Celestia has at least a little more power than Luna even without the elements because she has had more time to experience life and adapt her magic. Luna can't control the sun but maybe NIGHTMARE MOON in the season 7 episode "A Royal Problem" . We have good source of info ( Daybreaker ) so we know the villian versions of themself have more power. Well maybe a dream is not a good source of info but seriously Daybreaker was basiclly created by Starlight but techinclly Lauren Faust sooo
1 likeNo justno
0 likesNo no no no
0 likesThis is the longest comment ever ;-;
0 likesWell, the only problem with this is if she could do it all along, then why wait a thousand moons...
0 likesSo long but I read all of them.
0 likesthats an awesome theory
0 likesThat would be cool
0 likesI kinda think that if that was true then Nightmare Moon would have been released a long time ago. She was already very angry at Celestia, and villains blinded by rage usually act pretty recklessly.
0 likesIt’d be cool to think that Luna world have just as much power as Celestia
0 likesYou know allot of my little pony
0 likesC o o l ...............<-----------------
0 likesIf you watch the video where Twilight can't decide who to give the grand Galloping Gala ticket to then you hear Rarity say that Blue Bell is Celestia's nephew and the only way is possible is if luna had a baby or they have another sister and the sister would be the one who controls the Stars
0 likesLauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
0 likes"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of armony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
IMO, Queen Celestia is responsible for all of it, from the first episode up to Twilight Sparkle's coronation as Princess. Celestia had visions of the future, and followed what she saw in order to "teach" Twilight how to become Princess. Destiny (and visions of the future) completely denies free will, especially when the visions come true.
0 likesJust one person's opinion.
I think the challenges they faced in the first two ep. Is nightmare moon trying to stop them from getting to the element's.
1 likeActually I always thought celestia controlled those stars so she could free nightmare moon because She literally banished her own sister that must have hurt a lot so she probably wanted to see her again and felt 1000 years is better than forever
0 likesThey secretly have a third sibling locked in the dungeons who controls the stars.
0 likesBut it's a brother, so it's okay, seeing that most of the stallions get the short end of the stick overall...
Star swirl controls the stars, and a part of Star swirl went into the making of the tree of harmony.
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My thoughts exactly. It was probably all planned out by the original six before they went to limbo. But if this is the case, how? Has starswirl ever had visions like celestia?
61 likesIts literally his name
9 likesThx for more info but don’t worry I credited ya so I’m just making sure u don’t say I stole that part and again thx for the info
2 likesWhaaaattttt!!!!
1 likebut he was still in limbo
3 likes@Saida Jan um....................ok??//?
3 likesBut star swirls cutie mark it may be a star
3 likesMaybe it can be star swirl because he has a star in his cutie mark and name and isn't your cutie mark your destiny. He also taught luna so it would make sense but wasn't he stuck in limbo . Maybe he could see what's happening like how discord could to
4 likesYou are right about that
1 likeU read me mind
0 likesOmc!!!¡¡¡!!! You are genious!!!
1 likeI thought it was Cadanse controling the stars, but it gives more sence with Starswirl
2 likesTho he was in the past, now how does that work
2 likesThat makes sense, actually😃
1 likeThat’s powerful
0 likesAnd plus star is in star swirls name like he must cntroll the stars but if I am wrong than I think Celestia cntlolls the stars because in the day the stars are still there only of the bright light they do not show
1 likeStar swirl was in limbo for over 1000+ years , he is not able to control the stars
2 likesTeam dreamers star swirl was in limbo for 1000+ years , along with the pillars he is not able to move the stars at all
1 likeThere was no evidence that he controlled the stars before being trapped in limbo
1 likehow tho he was in limbo
1 likeWrong. The corrections is Star swirl was vanishes over 1000 years when he and the other send the shadow to the limbo he first appearance in Season 7.
2 likesYoussef Hany You’re right but I’m sorry but the way that you said all of that just kind of got annoying
1 like@Roc San Doesn't mean to be rude I am just saying
0 likesOk— you have an amazing point 😦
0 likeshe was in limbo
0 likesWhat? Star swirl doesn’t control the stars.
2 likesMy is the wolf of the stars
1 likeHE WAS TRAPPED IN LIMBO WITH OTHER PILLARS OF EQESTRIA
0 likesYeah that could be it just look at his name Star swirl
0 likesNo he does not oh, also theres one character
2 likesokay kind of two, but evwn more hidden unless you live in the U.S.A no but everyone else hard to maoe sence , 1. Luna her name is latin for the moon. 2. Celestia NASA did something for the sun . Soo names don't play such a big role in determining what a pony controls big shining example trixie cutie mark: Moon Power: Stage triks. theory debunked.
I think it's also twilight sparkle
0 likes@Saida Jan if u hate it then why are u watching it
0 likes@Team dreamers cadance protects the heart in the crystal empire not the stars
2 likes@ AnimeGrove thats what i was thinking
1 like@ AnimeGrove but starswirl was in the past, now how does that work
0 likesTrue tho........
0 likesDUN DUN DUUUN
0 likesI was thinking the same thing, and plus; it’s in his name lol
0 likesyea but wait, star swirl was banished along with the mane 6 then, so how could that be the case if he was the one that free nightmare moon?
0 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew who twilight was before the season 7 finale
2 likes@Ashwitha Peddi he didn’t need to. We all know that this show has prophecies that don’t require that level of detail. He just needed to see nightmare moon coming and would also explain why one of their last actions prior to limbo would be to make a special trip, deep into the forest to place a single seed in the ground.
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince But theorys need details.
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi yes. The details are about what would happen with nightmare moon. Not what would happen with the main six
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew the accomplish ments of the main six see the episode
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi the prophecy from episode 1 goes into detail about how nightmare moon wanted to take over equestria but eneded up in prisoned in the moon ant that “on the longest day of the thousandth year, she would bring about nighttime eternal”. It says nothing about the main six coming to defeat her. It was also said to be from “old pony times.” And this theory is about the legend, not what happens after it.
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi Starswirl probably foresaw either Luna slowly turning resentful, the battle between Celestia and Luna or Luna’s imprisonment itself, and that’s why he had no idea who twilight was. It was Celesta who figured out the details of what would happen after nightmare moon was free
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never knew about nightmare moon Mistmane's quote: We wanted to do something to protect the ralm in our absence
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi That’s the thing. The prophecy has nothing to do with the main six. It only has to do with her imprisonment which was long before twilight and her friends were even born
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince And star swrils banishment to limbo was before night mare moon
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi which is why I mentioned the visions
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi Please re-read what I said in the comment directly above your 7-8 minute ago one. And if there is any other part of this you would like me to talk about please let me know because I am a big fan of this sort of thing and like talking to others about it
0 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince And maybe celestia knew that the spell would were off as she banished nightmare nightmare moon
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince A great wizard like star swril would have preparations before sacrificing his life to defeat someone like the pony of shadows edit:and i think starswril would not have visions because he is a unicorn! It would be logial for alicorns to have visions but not unicorns
2 likes@Ashwitha Peddi exactly. But it IS cannon that Starswirl was a mentor to Celestia. He probably still had something to do with teaching her about the idea of visions in the first place
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince Maybe he knew about visions but never got visions
2 likesUnless you think the idea of visions is instinctual. In that case, perhaps Celestia has the visions as a philly and while she was still pupil of Starswirl’s, went to warn the pillars.
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince Take an example like twilight she never got visions like celestia.Maybe as an alicorn matures her powers grow stronger.
2 likes@Ashwitha Peddi You know, that actually makes a lot more sense. Though that would suggest Celestia being a linchpin in this from the very beginning. Well played Hasbro
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince So you are agreeing with me
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi That Starswirl May not have been the one to have the vision yes. That the rest of the theory is flawed because of that no. You actually helped me figure out the one thing that I was still scratching my head about.
2 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince glad I helped
1 like@Surbhi Goyal he controlled them subconsciously.
2 likes@Ashwitha Peddi mabye Stygian saw visions and he saw a vision of the pony of shadows, so he wanted to be prepared to fight...
2 likes@Kirk Lundberg But he is a unicorn please re-read the argument i had with shabow bolt prince
0 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince excellent theory
1 like@Kirk Lundberg Thanks. Those are some good theories you have too
0 likesHe was trapped in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so he couldn’t have
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco you know in the episode where rockhoof is trying to find his place in the world, when he tried to use the stars to navigate the boat twilight said that the stars slowly move over time, suggesting that the stars act the same in equestria as they do in our world, meaning that no one controls the stars. Edit:Or starswirl knew that he would be in limbo, so he put the part of him that controlled the stars into his seed
2 likes@Kirk Lundberg exactly what I mean. And for your edit, idk, maybe. He probably set a spell before he trapped himself, the pillars and the pony of shadows in limbo.
1 like@Jimmy Orozco I think sawtooth's theory with the tree controling every thing is a valid argument. Think of the sun and moon during the plunder seed incident.
2 likes@Kirk Lundberg i think that happened because Tia and Luna keep the sun and moon in balance, and when they were trapped, they couldn’t keep them in balance so the sun and moon were kinda just there
1 like@Kirk Lundberg and the reason the plunder seeds were growing was because the tree was weakened so the tree couldn’t have been controlling those (the sun and moon)
1 like@Jimmy Orozco discord said that the the plunder seeds were stealing the magic of the tree, the sun and moon were not usually parallel to each other, except when magic was in play, and we know that calestia and luna didn't do it so who or what else controlled the sun and moon?
1 likeMabye the plunder seeds themselves were controlling the sun and moon.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg yeah somebody as chaotic as Discord probably would’ve created seeds that can take Celestia and Luna’s powers and used it to make the sun and moon sit in midair
1 like@Jimmy Orozco maybe the spirit of the tree is as old as discord himself...
1 like@Kirk Lundberg yes! Watch Sawtooth’s video called “How Discord came to be”. To summarize, he theorizes that when the tree was full grown, Discord was pulled into existence so that there can be a ying-yang balance.
1 like@Jimmy Orozco I will have to see that theory
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg yes, you should! It’s incredibly good!
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco just have, well thought out theory.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg yup.
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco along the lines of chaos/harmony balance was the chest meant to tip the scales out of balance or back into balance?
1 like@Kirk Lundberg I’m not really sure. I don’t think it was created to fight chaos but to help the Mane Six realize that they can help others change for the better, and also to give Twi a nice new castle.
1 like@Jimmy Orozco something that bothers me about the castle is why spike has a throne.
1 likeMy guess is that spike is a seventh element, the element of "working through differences". When you think about it, spike is the only dragon permanently living in equestria at the beginning of the show. In equestria girls, sunset is different because she was born a pony. The young 6 don't have this element because they are all from different races. The pillars are the hardest, but terix's brother seems a good fit.
1 like@Kirk Lundberg see the season seven finale in star swrils imagination how the tree of harmony grew
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco who? Stygian or starswril
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi both of them
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg the elements of harmony represent stuff about friendship so it kinda works
1 likeThough spike might just have a throne because it would be mean not to give him one
@Ashwitha Peddi what argument?
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco you know the argumemt krik lundberg
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg in star swrils imaginations the tree of harmony represents seven elements and one of them is green which is spike
1 like@Ashwitha Peddi oh yeah. It wasn’t really an argument, it was just a back and forth of ideas and theories about the show
1 like@Jimmy Orozco I read your discussion and i have one thing in problem didn't i disprove the idea that star swril controls the stars
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi how?
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi one of them is green but it’s Fluttershy’s. I fondly remember in the first episode that green gem and Fluttershy loves nature so her gem was green before it turned into a pink necklace
1 like@Jimmy Orozco then way will spike have a throne
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince about starswril controlling the stars
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi because it would be mean if he doesn’t have one. It’s just a small lil throne right nexts to Twi’s.
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi yeah I personally think he doesn’t control them too. Kir told me about how in an episode Twilight said “the stars move by themselves over time.”
1 like@Jimmy Orozco did you read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince just asking
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi yes
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco dr. wolf had a couple videos about the seventh element, I think you should go see them.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg ok, I might.
0 likes@angelcat go see the debate that me, Ashwitha Peddi, and Jimmy Orozco had.
0 likesStar swirl was the one who created the tree of harmony in the first place
1 like@Rabia Fatima no star swirl and the pillars made a seed.
1 like@Rabia Fatima not really. Starswirl planted the seed along with the other of the Pillars so yeah it was just part of him.
1 likesame
0 likesStar swirl = Someone who can make the stars swirl AKA control them i agree
0 likesBut till that time star swirl had banished
1 likeShe is right stars why was the one who told the original six to plant the seed it was his idea to sent the original six to limbo
1 likeStar Swirl was in limbo so I don't think he can use magic in limbo
1 likeHe disappeared bef night mare moon
1 likeactually star swirl was trapped in the dark realm
0 likesnot possible by the time nightmare moon escaped star swirl and the other pillars were already in limbo and when star swirl was released he looked drained of his magic meaning he was useing all of his magic to keep the pony of shadows in limbo in otherwords i rest my case
1 likeMaybe starswirl at the limbo maybe he could make a spell while he was there at the limbo maybe celestia and starswirl planed all for years
0 likes@Espresso not possible because celestia was to young to understand such powerful magic also if that actualy happened celestia would of dealt with it years ago
1 like@alex whittingham it could be possible because in an episode Granny Smith was telling the story of how ponyville was founded she mentioned princess Celestia and she was at the same age she was at the whole series and Granny Smith was old but Celestia never got old while Granny Smith yes
0 likes@Espresso the reason behind that is because without celestia the sun or the moon would not be able to be risen and lowered and we all know how that turned out when discords chaos seeds invaded equestria and took the two princesses hostage next to the tree of harmony and everything went chaotic during that time the moon nor the sun was lowered or raised they were both in the sky creating half night half day
1 like@alex whittingham what I try to say is that celestia could be at the perfect age just to understand the powerful magic when starswirl the bearded didn’t disappeared but I have another theory >:3 tell you later
0 likes@Espresso understood lets here your other theory
0 likes@alex whittingham ok look my other theory was that clover the clever was or is a princess first of all twilight acting like clover the clever in an episode said: my mentor starswirl the bearded I know just because he was celestia’s and Luna’s teacher doesn’t prove nothing BUT as celestia, Luna and starswirl are really powerful what means clover the clever was really really powerful and I think anyone noticed that cause she was really intelligent as twilight was acting like that and I investigated more and discovered that clover the clever was a character named clever clover from G2 (generation 2) from the mlp show and I found a video that said remaking at the video cover and the tittle of the video said that they were remaking PRINCESS clever clover now please tell if it is possible or not I need to know if my theory is good
1 like@Espresso well first off we would need to know what clover the clever did to earn her alicorn status next we would need to study about her past and what she did for a living to determine if she was in the school of magic or if starswirl taught her on his own then we would need to research the seven trials clover the clever did also she did chase down a evil sorcerer with a powerful relic called the memmory stone which could be connected to her earning her alicorn status then you can backup the the theory with the evidence you obtained do that and you will have a really solid theory
2 likes@alex whittingham ooohhh yes the memory stone now I remember the part of clever oh clover the- ok understand of sunset shimmer XD
0 likes@Espresso your welcome
0 likes@alex whittingham thanks
0 likes@Espresso no problom
0 likes@alex whittingham :D if you have any theory you can tell it to me it would be really interesting hearing any other theories:D
0 likes@Espresso ok no problom
0 likes@alex whittingham I HAVE ANOTHER THEORY :D
0 likes@Espresso what is it?
0 likes@alex whittingham my theory is that pinkie pie is one of the gift givers because at the first movie of eg (equestria girls) the other pinkie pie of equestria girls guessed all about twilight like if they knew each other for years like she guessed that she was a pony princess etc. When twilight came back to equestria the normal pinkie guessed that flash sentry invited her to dance there were 3 gift givers in “the best gift ever” one sees the past other stays at the present the other sees the future there could one the sees what happens in parallel dimensions and I have other proof the (pause for dramatic moment) the pinkie sense (I think that is the way you say it in English) I mean she could predice things like the gift giver that sees the future and pinkie pie is a pony who always knows what ponies like remember the secret planing cave of pinkie (I think that’s how you say it on English) she had information files of everyone in ponyville maybe she could see what happens in other worlds or know everything about the existence of equestria ok no but maybe she could know what are the problems of other ponies remember the song smile she always helped ponies solve their problems and maybe see what is happening in other dimensions or worlds to help but why pinkie went with the gift givers then well maybe it was the destiny or maybe she doesn’t remember of what happened in her past with the gift givers maybe the gift givers gave her special powers she didn’t even noticed she had, things just happened for her and I just remember about madam pinkie XD well that is my theory what do you think? :D
1 like@Espresso but remember the files they were also in the main hall when the mayor and applejack were there searching for a certain file maybe that where pinkie pie got the files
1 like@alex whittingham yes true cause she knew exactly where all the files were
1 like@alex whittingham OMG WATCH THIS AT 6:37 https://youtu.be/mX0WVX4Hkn8 it’s that like the sun?? So is that the difference between their sun and ours?
1 likeWhat part of Star Swirl? 😲
0 likesOf course😯it makes so much sense now
1 like@· My Little Pony Episodes · ? Do you mean what I said of that maybe they planned all for years?
1 like@Shadow Bolt Prince my theory was that starswirl and celestia planned all of bringing back nightmare moon
2 likes@alex whittingham wait I have a question is it pinkie sense how you say “pinkie sentido” (Spanish) in English? You know when she predicts if something will fall from the sky for example
0 likes@Espresso yeah
0 likes@alex whittingham ohh ok :D
0 likes@Saida Jan Ummm......what?
0 likesBut I thought that star swirl was at limbo in that time
0 likes@Mrdummy156 he was
0 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince after I think about it star swril nor celestia balled out nightmare moon,remember when Faust said celestia and luna were naturally born as alicorns
1 likeThat makes a lot of sense
0 likesno he doesn't
0 likes@C Cappa Agreed
0 likes@Klara & funny bros No he/she isnt1
0 likes@Varnika Singh he isn't
0 likesU have a point, from the name of STAR swirl he might control 'em
0 likesHe vanished himself at this point he was still vanished
0 likes@Shadow Bolt Prince star swirl had no trust when nearing twilight at first
0 likes@Morro fan so? He didn’t have to know about twilight. He just had to know about nightmare moon. Read the previous conversations
0 likesStarseirl
0 likesYes he is the onley one who know about magic and it can be the who controls the stars
Me to star swirl is control the star celestia is sun and Luna is moon
0 likesHave there been any instances in the series where we see Or get told Starswirl genuinely manipulated the stars?? 🧐
0 likesBut Star Swirlwas not in there he was in a different realm I think
0 likesWait this actually makes a lot of sense-
0 likesHahaha
0 likesYes.
0 likesSTARswirl
Wait who did it when he was in limbo?
Star swirl went to limbo before they defeated nightmare moon
0 likesTrue true but no he was traped between time and space ...
0 likesNo
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi wait but in the episode of season 6 where we see flurry heart for the first time they said the she was the first pony that was born as an alicorn or something like that I don’t remember what they exactly said
0 likesand he used to raise the son and the moon with other ponies.. it makes sense
0 likesmay be celestia waited 1000 years so that the four stars could come in a perfect order because if she had to wait for the main six she would have done it before 1000 year's day when twilight was her students and if twilight was her students the main six must have grown enough to understand the situation
1 likeMay I am correct please consider my theory once 😁😁😁
"Technically", the sun IS a star... But heh, in a world where the sun rises at the same point the moon falls x')
1 likeWell, I think yes. I mean, of course she would miss her sister. Also, in order for Twilight to make friends and become the princess, she would need to release her.
0 likesdoesn't luna control the stars I think the stars were controled by the ✨️spirit of the elements of harmony tree ✨️ and luna was waiting for the day the elements would let her out.....k know I don't wanna sound crazy BUT DIDNT LUNA AND CELESTIA HAVE POWER OVER THE TREE OF HARMONY LUNA LET HER SELF OUT ITS SORTA CLEAR! AND SHE THE CREATER WAS PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT LUNA AS IN THE PRESENT SHE CONTROLS THE MOON AND STARS! if u like my thoughts give a like 👍
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BTW I dunno bout the sun.....
0 likesThe sun is a star, so Celestia could be considered someone who controls stars but we only see her control the sun so we wouldn't know if she controls other stars or not.
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In her world it's a star, but it isn't said in the mlp world to be cannon
1 likeI know this was a year ago however I can’t help but remember. Starswirl and some other unicorns raised and lowered the sun and moon before Tia and Luna took over. Perhaps he had something to do with the return of nightmare moon?
0 likesJust saying, our dear Twili released Star Swirl without really thinking. And look at her cutie mark, it’s made of STARS. Is it possible that she’s the ruler of stars which is why she could kind of control the sun and moon (the sun is a star) when the magic of all of the main princesses was transferred to her when Terik took over. Granted, it was hard for her to position the sun/moon, it was possible and she did do it. It’s possible that she rules over Equestria , the stars and is the Princess of Friendship (therefore making her the most powerful princess known to equestria yet). She may have set free Nightmare Moon to show a point that she was right about seeing the signs of her return. Seeing as her only drive back then was magic and not friendship, I was thinking maybe it could be true. Just a quick theory tho.
0 likesWhat I think is that when Celesta sent Luna to the moon it kinda set a spell that in a thousand years Luna would be done with her punishment and return so not celesta herself more the elements of harmony/her sending Luna/nightmare moon to the moon did. Even in the book it says Luna would be back in a thousand years meaning she was meant to come back, so when she was sent there it must have been set for only a thousand years. Another thing why would celesta send her sister to the moon and not try to have her come back again. So it makes sense that when she sent her there she made a time for her to come back.
1 likefor the one who controls the stars...i think its gusty the great! im not so certain i might as well have to lok back through her history, the one im talking about is the one who locked away grogars bell, until tirek, cozy and chrysalis screwed it up!
0 likesAm I the only one who’s wondering, wth happened to Prince Blueblood. All we knew about him is that he’s Celestia and Lunas Nephew and then he was never heard from again
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I’ve actually been wondering this also for yeeaaaarrrs. Please give me answers :3
46 likesHe was in the background for a while on and off. Idk what happened to him at the end though.
44 likes@TC 182 or he's only referred to as a nephew because all the Canterlot prince and Princesses who AREN'T Alicorns adopted them into the Royal family when the two took rule of Equestria. After all, there was a unicorn Royal family before the sisters took over, I doubt they just disbursed after that.
89 likesUnicorns are too snobby for that
@TC 182 Long since dead? Perhaps called a "nephew" but are really many times great grand of one or the other? Hard to say how many spouses Celestia has had over the years.
20 likes@Autum Breeze Perhaps the Sisters (as the show seems to indicate they themselves ascended to alicorn status) were part of this ruling family.
24 likesMelody I looked it up earlier and I think I know how he’s related. When your cousin has a kid, it says it’s not actually called a “second cousin” but actually your niece/nephew, and if they have to be technical it’s your “first cousin once removed” but the title still stands. So maybe one of their cousins had Prince Blueblood.
31 likes@Nyoom i agree
5 likesAnd I am wondering who was Princess Amore
7 likesBHASWATI DEY Princess Amore was the first Queen/princess of the Crystal Empire before the rise of King Sombra in the mlp comics.
17 likesThat means that Luna and Celestia basically have another sibling, DAN DAN DANNNNN!
9 likesTC 182 Maybe Princess Sterling and Gold Lily, they weren’t introduced into the series but they were released as toys.
6 likes@TC 182 Maybe that Princess of the Stars theory isn't too off...
5 likesscrew him lol
1 likeAlso who's there sibling or did one of them have a kid?!
1 like@TC 182 it could have been there cousin's son
0 likesI always thought that prince blueblood is just the last remaining member of the original unicorn family, and he is a descendant of Princess platinum, and so Celestia adopted him into the current royal family.
3 likesBHASWATI DEY It’s Princess Mi Amore Cadenza AKA Cadence (which is short for Cadenza)
0 likesAs he said in another theory celestia and Luna are from another land so what if blueblood is there.........WELL ITS JUST A THEORY
1 likeGood point-
0 likes@TC 182 well Celestia adopted Cadence as her niece so maybe prince Blueblood was an orphan and she took pity on him and adopted him but that's just a theory
3 likes@TC 182 In the MLP Movie, there was a scrapped villain, Celestia's alicorn brother Cosmos.
5 likes@TC 182 omggggg
1 likeHe obviously has his own kingdom
1 likeLeila Lin, her magic is for the crystal heart not the stars
0 likesElias 👀👀
3 likesWhAt?! They had/have a brother?
It’s not actually official anymore. But, atleast we know the writers were deciding on having another sibling for the sisters-
OMG YAAASSS
0 likesMaybe because he has a star cutie mark
0 likesMy personal theory is that they have along lost sibling, perhaps the sibling controlled the stars, maybe the sibling is evil (explains blue blood). He/She could have aided in Nightmare Moons escape as revenge on celestia.
1 likeTC 182 Sun, Moon, Day, Night? Dawn? Or Eclipse maybe?
2 likesIt seems Rarity got her revenge
0 likesWait, the sisters are over a thousand years old so.... that would make Prince Blueblood compared to his sisters his great great great great great great great great
1 likemany greats latergreat aunt??? Wait.... Celestia and Luna had another sister if Prince Blueblood were their nephew :0 Edit: I also wanted to add the way this works is if your sister (if you have one) has children, the male son to you your nephew, same goes for the daughter but called niece.TC 182 from the research I’ve seen they have a colt who “controls the stars” but I’ve never seen their dad and in the photo they where alicorns at such a young age? other than that this is quite interesting as I’ve watched mlp for 5 years + good luck on your research
0 likesElias
1 like... would’ve been better than the storm king
TC 182 yeaa who is it :/
0 likesIf he was there nephew then is it possible that celestia and luna have a brother
1 likeThe rest of main six jumped him after he rejected rares
0 likesGasp is he SOMBRA ? Total guess
1 like@Nyoom i agree.
0 likesWhat I wonder more than that: how the hell do they have a nephew?! As far as I know there are only two princess sisters, meaning there is no third party. He is referred to as "Celestias nephew" multiple time which would mean that Luna is his mother. But that would also mean the Blueblood, a normal unicorn, would be over thousands od years old. But being a normal unicorn, he probably isn't immortal. Luna has no boyfriend, at least it's not shown and even of she had, Blueblood would either be dead or very very young if you think about the timeline. Luna was in the moon for over a thousand years. Had she gained a sun before Nightmare Moon, he would be dead. Had gained one after the Mane Six defeated her, Blueblood would be to young to participate at the gala.
1 likeWHOOOOOOOO?!?!?
1 likeWho are you?
0 likesSounds like the beginning of a murder mystery to me.
2 likes@Preeti Daima Who are YOU?
0 likesBut at that time (during Luna's banishment at the moon) Celestia was controlling both the sun and the moon. So it would make sense for Celestia to be the one. Maybe she even added the "when four stars meet" thing in the first place, to find the ones who are careful enough to follow the patterns and can actually help Luna. Everyone seemed to forget Luna's existence besides Twilight, it would make a lot of sense for Celestia to trust her and free Nightmare Moon.
0 likesYou know when you said the tree of harmony used grodon I thought that can’t be true but what if the pony that trapped him (forgets the ponies name) then traveled to the future and trapped him in the tree of harmony with the last of her power so the tree could trap grodon in the tree to the end of time but he might be out of it now because it was destroyed or he is now trapped in the treehouse of harmony
1 likeguys, i have a theory. what if starswirl the bearded controlled the stars while in limbo? his name is litterally star-swirl. and even in limbo, his magic could easily control the stars. maybe he knew about celestia missing the long lost memories of her and luna that she blocked out all those years, and wanted to test her leadership... and help her remember the times when she and her sister were friends, and reform luna. or maybe he was testing LUNA.. he could have been testing luna, teaching her to embrace her powers and use them for good and not evil.
1 likeHi Sawtooth Waves Im a huge fan!
0 likesYesterday I was bored, so I decided to watch My Little Pony again starting from season one episode one. And while I was watching I saw a little pattern on the book that Twilight was reading, I saw the stars formed a pattern thatl was similar on what Twilight saw. So I watched the whole video and thought again, it might be the stars. But I was not sure yet so I watched your video and thought, maybe Im right or wrong so I decided to comment tit and this is that comment. ( Can I please get a shoutout )
What if sense Celestia can see visions the Tree of Harmony showed her a vision of the stars lining up then she saw it her self after ward?
185 likesEdit:what if "who controls the stars" is Twilight? Her cutie mark is stars, and after The Two Sisters retired she controls the sun and moon (and the sun is a star). And after all Celestia can and has predicted the future and "watched over twilight" the whole time of her journey (Celstias Ballad). Also Fuast might have waited to tweet it after the show to hint it was Twilight (beacuse in the last episode she's the ruler of Equestria). Also Twilight has shown time travel is a thing (just something to think about)
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maybe twilight went back in time and aligned the stars the way they were in the first/second and then realized she was the one who set nightmare moon/ luna free, which ment she was the one who controled her destiny from then on, because chain reaction of that happened. that could be the actual thing that happened
25 likesWow I think you guys are right the question is when did Twilight Sparkle's go back in time and about how they all got cuties marks can there be a connection from past present furter and starts from all 3 of those destiny as whole. And the the Tree Of Harmony is possible that the connection of that tree look like star in the center of it and seems be the same one on Twilight cutie mark.
8 likesHmm, I think you guys are onto something 🤔 the brony notion should make a vid about this
6 likes@yasmin oh thanks uwu
2 likesI think celestia could see visions
5 likesof twighlight with her friends
so she released nightmare moon on purpose
@P M I sorta thought that too uwu
2 likesBut you see TheQweenOfGoats its different there the sun and stars are probably different then the real world
2 likestwilight did it
2 likesI think you all are right because Twilight knows spells so she could have done it.but at the same time Sunset Shimmer may have done it.but it will make more sense if it was Twilight. so i am with you guys
1 like@P M it's a good point
1 likeMKR😈😈😈
0 likesMaybe when Twilight appeared it caused Nightmare moon’s escape. Her cutie does have a few stars on it. So, maybe she caused the help of her arrival and allowed the gateway to open.
0 likesI still have one question where did celestia go in the first sighting of night mare moon???
2 likesThis is just adding stuff to the cannon because then discord would have gotten realeased after nightmare moon
6 likesI believe Twilight and her friends meeting for the first time released Luna because Twilight is the link between Celestia and Luna. I mean think about it, her cutie mark is a combination of stars each representing her and her friends. All of the stars come together into the moon maybe because after Twilight finally meet her friends, the prophecy was set for Twilight and her friends to help release Luna from Nightmare moon. Luna was set free from being trapped in the moon because Twilight along with her friends were meant to come together to reform her and to reunite Celestia with Luna once again.
0 likesThe sun IS a star, therefore, Faust was sending a message to us on Celestia bailing out Nightmare Moon.
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Next tweet Lauren literally corrected herself saying her word means nothing, the show is true canon. How do people not freaking get that?!
2 likes@Dallin Anderson Because not everybody saw that tweet, and if some did, they probably never saw more.
3 likesBut while the sun is a star, it’s only one star doesn’t mean celestia controlled all of them
4 likes@Anny It's still better for me to believe that she did, I'm not saying that it's Canon.
2 likesThe signs could mean that she saw the Mane Six and knew that it was time to release her sister and let her be reformed. Not neccacarily talking about the stars in the sky.
0 likesI think Selectia controlled the stars to realese Night Mare Moon to do so Twilight could be a alicorn in the future, with the help of the tree of harmony
0 likesCelestia could have but she would need to prep the place a bit, Nightmare moon was a hazard, she would take away the sun, which brings plant's food to grow and helps create oxygen with trees, also, Nightmare Moon was a cannibal. We aren't sure if those were mere filly tales but um... If it was true, then that means there was a true danger to her being free.
1 likeI think that Celestia set nightmare moon free bc she was testing twilight and how strong the power of their friend ships really are. And when celestia banished nightmare moon to the moon she was in charge of the moon and starts sh she could have just moved them and that led to the escape of nightmare moon
1 likeIn the real world, I would've blamed this on "proper motion" or "radial motion". Here though, I think it might be Starswirl
0 likesI agree with the maker bc Celestia over took Luna‘s powers and Luna moves the stars if you watch in the beginning and you hear nicely
0 likesCould Twilight have Controlled the stars? By the end of the show she is in control of the sun and moon. Maybe twilight could move stars but didn’t know it? Like, its something she does because she expects it to happen.
1 likeI think she was hinting at Luna moving the stars
0 likesIt just happens slowly because she’s trapped
Remember: stars arent just “stars”, they are other suns, the same as our sun is a star, so i beleive Celestia does have something to do with it.
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Sylvea Demon they still refer to the sun in equestria as “the sun”, so I wm posotive on my theory.
0 likesTheory; did Nightmare Moon free herself?
0 likesEven tho Celestia took over her role that did not mean that her all of her powers were magicly gone. She maybe figured out if the stars perfektly alined that the Moon woud free her, but maybe moving the stars takes lot of time
What if Celestia did not cause nightmare moon's freedom, what if it was destiny; what if it was supposed to happen according to the prophecy.
1 likeOr what if it was Star Swirl, since he was basically there from the beginning, and then he made the prophecy?
“the jury is still out” i gasped out loud when i saw the toontown screenshot omg 💀💀💀
1 likeI think that The sisters had a long lost sister that helps bring harmony together and give them advice and she did it and told her sister. The reason she isn't a princess is that she is too timid.
0 likesThis is what I think: The tree of harmony “told” celestia to realece nightmare moon in order to test if the mane six were worthy of the elements of harmony, so celestia knew about everything and staged her disappearance to let the tree do its job, that’s why she randomly popped out of a hallway to congratulate the mane six when they free’d Luna, so mabe the tree actually turned Luna into nightmare moon for this! Star swirl might have a role in this plan because he was responsible for making the tree of harmony as well, and he can control the stars too! Or maybe I am thinking too hard
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Apwhad MLP Artsy I think this is incorrect because: ALERT SPOILERS
16 likesStarswirl said that “You two have grown so tall” when they saw each other again. So he did not know of Celestia’s and Luna’s size, hinting to Starswirl seeing them during younger years when the two sisters were smaller, so Starswirl was probably sent to limbo before events of Nightmare Moon.
The Tree of Harmony was communicating with ponies after School Daze. So it took a few years for those powers to develop. They were most likely powered by the Elements until it was able to function on it’s own from the Mane 6 (Spirits of Harmony). Even though the Elements were still in the tree before the Mane 6, they didn’t have a spiritual connection with anybody.
Luna turning into Nightmare Moon was probably proved that it was because of her own envy, not gonna explain just rewatch Friendship is Magic - Part 1.
She popped out the hallway because Nightmare Moon had plenty of time on the moon, she might have figured out the banishing spell or at least a disappearing spell. She performed it on Celestia, most likely banishing her to the moon or somewhere like Tartarus.
Apwhad MLP Artsy it make sense!
3 likesThe tree of harmony didn't even exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode. It became canon years later.
9 likesLauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so, for the abovementioned reason), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
Neutron Alchemist hi!
1 like@Raph :3 Hi!
1 likeshe didnt pop out of a hallway. she literally came out of the sun
3 likes@Sammi X VAL I don’t remember her coming out of the sun, but instead walking in on them, but rather way, it seemed like she was waiting for them somehow....
2 likesMe too
2 likes@York LE Dork no... she came out of the window as soon as the sun rose up after Nightmare Moon was defeated. She didn’t just appear in the hallway.
4 likesWhen nightmare moon came out of the moon celestia must arrested into the sun
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco true
0 likes@Joselin S somebody said that Faust herself confirmed this on Deviantart, I’m not sure tho.
0 likesShe appeared out of the sun as far as a remember
1 likeYour prob thinking to hard how would the tree talk to Celestia it has only ever talked to the young 6
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco yes she did
0 likes@Lucky Charm alr good to know
0 likesthieves: scared if the dogs are released.
2 likesme: aww release them.
did you know that the sun is a star so i think celestia is able to technically able to control the stars.
0 likesWhat if since twilight is the new princes and controls the sun, she’d also control the stars since the name is twilight. A explanation for this could be a time travel spell.
0 likesHaven't you thought that the two sisters are yin and yan I mean sun and moon are opposites and maybe they just couldn't live with out each other and I know Celestia controls the moon and the sun but is it not strange that there are two sisters and not just Celestia even thoght she controls the moon and sun ?
1 likeI think Celestia was the one who orchestrated nightmare moon’s return,because the sun is a star,so Celestia should be the pony that aided the stars in nightmare moon’s escape.
0 likesSawtooth at the end of the video: Asking a bunch of question
1 likeMe: Celestia is now a bread roll. Yum.
who controls the sun, moon and stars?
1 likeliterally twilight bruh
( she got handed down the role of everything, she originally already had the relation to stars and now she can control the sun and moon )
I have an OC who is the lost 3rd sister of the stars, named Laniakea. The reason the stars don't move is because Laniakea has been missing and forgotten since Discord's reign of terror (long story). However, before she went missing, I have a theory that perhaps Laniakea set the stars to align with the moon (perhaps the Tree of Harmony helped bolster this after her disappearance) because she was really close with Luna and understood the overshadowing Luna felt.
0 likesMaybe we should look for a pony that has star in there name not starswirl
2 likesIn my own opinion i feel like this is not so connected but the stars sparkling on celestia's hair is same to the star that released Luna
1 likeWelp, I guess this also expains how Celestia banished BEFORE NightmareMoon even shows up infront of everyone. And Luna's Unaware of it 🙃
0 likesI think that starlight should be an option to controling the stars because on many occasions we have seen her use strong ancient magic after nightmare moons release so it could be possible that she could have done so even if it might not have bin on purpose when she was learning magic.
0 likes“Sun, Moon, AND stars... who controls the stars?”
609 likesIt was STARLIGHT GLIMMER-
Just a theory heehee
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OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED-
57 likesMany of the references say that starlight is going to be an alicorn soon Cough brony notion's mv cough So many be somehow it might be related to her. The fact that she can time travel may be a big part in it.
Like one day star light was trying to figure out one of the olden days spells and something goes wrong. Then she have to travel back in time to fix it or something like that-
22 likesI tought of Starlight too! I mean, there IS a star in her cutie mark, and STAR-light glimer, so i don't see why twilight wouldn't ask starlight to help her when starlight becomes an alicorn!
21 likesOF COURSE STARLIGHT DOES HOW COULD I NO THINK OF HER CUTIE MARKKK
12 likesBesides her, it could also be STAR swirl!
12 likesI don't know about that
3 likesDuchess Madi You are pretty actually right
2 likesShe is also evil before she met them
6 likesIt wouldnt fit in the timeline because he was sent to limbo!
5 likesSo starswirl is in the options?
5 likesChristhalia he was in Limbo so quite possibly no
3 likesI think there were too sisters who were leader of star ponies and one of them turned evil just like Luna turning to Nightmare , after years the star sister's dark magic freed Nightmare moon.
5 likesTIME TRAVEL?!?!
3 likesIts Twilight Shimmer, not "Glimmer"
3 likesPS.
2 likesThought you were talking bout' Twighlight... Sorry
A theory... Maby TwighlightSparckle and StarLightGlimmer are long lost siblings and they are the protectors/Controlers of the stars, one was sent to a certain place whilst the other was in a different place, and whilst one turned evil the other came to help. Not to mention Twilightlight and Starlight have traveled through time in the shows... then again one doese seem to have more power than the other so Maby one is older? I also remembered that Starlight had a childhood friend, so maby in the pony's past there was a different group of 3? One was the researcher and/or scientist and the other 2 are the holders of the stars. And to be fair, I have a backup... Twighlight(3 Stars on Cutiemark) STARlight(1 star on Cutiemark) SUNburst(No stars but has a sun on his Cutiemark and wears a robe with stars on it. Is also really into books!) (Then again that doesn't explain how there are 2 pony's who like reading and reaserching.) So if you want, debunk my theory. Be my guest... Anywayes, BY! (My hand is hurting, so, BY!)
6 likesIsn't it obvi it's starlight she literally has the word star in her name
4 likesI got a theory if sunburst and sunset shimmer might have a connection which lead to starlight glimmer name rhyming with shimmer but then both twilight & starlight has light in it and was secret sisters so sunset shimmer should have taken Calestia throne but didn't so I'm guessing that why sunset stole the crown in the first Equestria girls movie so she get revenge and take what she think was hers but it doesn't explain sunburst since starlight is his friend unless they was from a different dimension but then what if starswirl is a great ancestor that twilight set free from the stone in the past since starswirl is powerful like twilight also twilight does look up to starswirl and read all his books
Um.... Starswirl?
1 likeStarswirl was in Limbo at the time I said Starlight lmao u>u
1 likewaitttt STAR hehe so yes lol
1 likeYour idea is amazing!!maybe starlight glimmer knew about night mare moon and because she was still evil her trying to eliminate everyone(not knowing about the mane six ☺☺
5 likes@sad kad thought*
1 likelol
1 likeoh em
2 likesGee....
flurry heartttttt
nooooooo no she don't 😈😈😈😈
2 likesWait...Starlight Glimmer used her time travel spell to forsee the Mane Six coming together, so SHE set nightmare Moon free, so she could enact her plans of the Cutie Remark!
2 likes@Rat BigMac maybe he controls the stars or maybe even the milky way? I personally think that star swirl and starlight glimmer have something in commen either way I think something big will happen.... but also he was in limbo so possibly no but who knows 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
1 likeRat Maclean that was what I was thinking too!
0 likesWhat
0 likes? what
0 likesI-I can’t believe it- IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
0 likesStarswril idk how to spell also have star in the name TwT
0 likesWait- Star swirl the stars "swirl" towards the moon
Idkkkk TnT
I don't think it would start early because she wasn't in the first episode
0 likesTrue, but Starlight wasn’t that evil. Her mo was to rid Equestria of cutie marks because of the hurt she went through with Sunburst.
4 likesAnd the pony controlling the stars would have had to be seen before in some certain timeline, because I’m sure ponies would like to know who was moving their stars every night. I don’t know who it would be and don’t have a very strong theory, but it could have been Sunset Shimmer, who went to the human world. She could possibly still control the stars even without being there? Honestly I have no idea, but I know that Starlight is not the controller of the stars, but someone a lot more evil.
@Shduehfjsi OH MAH GAWD that's an amazing point >:DDDD
1 likeCorrect madam, what can I do for ya?
0 likesI agree
0 likesxWine Tavernx I thought it was Twilight cause her cutie mark is a star starlight glimmer has the cutie mark is a SHOOTING STAR maybe they both control the stars.
0 likesYea starlight glimmer must have done it because her name star starlight glimmer it should of been her
0 likesI have the smallest problem with this. The sun is a star.
0 likesI'm sorry to be rude but no
0 likesGuys, think for a second even
1 likeWhat would her reasoning even be? She wouldn't be defeated yet until many seasons later. This happened in episode 1 - 2. She doesn't even know someone named Twilight Sparkle exists yet. She's living a happy and peaceful life over in her village. I doubt that controlling the stars to free Nightmare Moon even crossed her mind
It's barely possible, and way too unlikely and not well-planned for me to believe it. And Starlight is one to think things through instead of rushing in blind and hoping it all works
It could have been her but what about sunset shimmer...?
0 likesShe could have been hiding around...
0 likesMaybe starswirl at the limbo maybe he could make a spell while he was there at the limbo maybe celestia and starswirl planed all for years.
0 likes@Sassy Sem first of all she used a spell by starswirl and starswirl is the one who controls the stars and why everyone wants starlight to be an alicorn I MEAN TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT STARLIGHT IT WOULD BE NONSENSE THAT STARLIGHT COULD BE AN ALICORN AND I HATE THAT SUNSET SHIMMER AND STARLIGHT ARE LIKE THE MAIN CHARACTERS I MEAN ITS NONSENSE TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT THEM
0 likes@Linda C.just because it has star on the name it doesn’t mean it’s her I think it was starswirl because he was the teacher of Luna and celestia
0 likesI was thinking the same too
0 likesWhat I think is that the stars are maybe moved by the tree of harmony or maybe it was planned before luna/nightmare moon was sent to the moon.
0 likesFoust never said it was Celestia, she just said that whoever did, controlled those things. On the Tree of Harmony, there is a star, sun, and moon pattern, so Foust may have been pointing to that being the case.
0 likesI think luna (but at that moment nightmare moon) was only to become powerful enough to control the stars after 1000 years, aka she did it.
0 likesI just realized that stars are technically sun's and I just thought of it before watching this video😳
0 likesI would argue Discord is god-like and exists outside of time and space,he could totally have visions.
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have we seen him manipulate time? 🤔
34 likes@Sawtooth Waves well,I don't believe so but he does live in the void(or what I believe is the void)and that would be outside of space and time.Mind you I haven't watched the shows newer seasons or just haven't watched the show in at least five years so I may be a bit behind the times.
13 likes@Sawtooth Waves doesn't he slow people down when he is first in charge?
6 likesThe Brony Notion I looked it up-I didn’t get an answer but In one clip he says(talking about his chaos magic) ‘it would give you power over all reality’ and I wouldn’t be surprised if that could extend to time.
10 likes@Sawtooth Waves just because you exist outside of something doesn't necessarily make you able to manipulate it
7 likes@Sawtooth Waves he did with twilight in season 2 episode 2
5 likesWe've seen Discord look shocked while getting turned to stone twice now, admit he didn't see it coming when Tirek betrayed him, get caught off guard when Starlight banished him from the school grounds, and fail to predict his plan would be completely derailed in the finale. I think it's pretty obvious by now that he doesn't have Celestia's foresight.
6 likesOMG. 🦄🦄🦄💁🏻
2 likesTheWitch KingofWolfs. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
2 likesTrumpeterJen That’s a fair point
3 likesactually he had manipulated time snaps look at s2 discord went back on time with twilight to make her hear the riddle again. so he can control time itself
4 likes@Satsujin-Sha The witch KingofWolfs. Its called chaos ville thats where he live -.- and yes I think he can manipulate time, his discord he can "alter the very fabric of reality" hope u know where that quote is from ;) Also another quote from discord "I can do whatever I want whenever I want" he wasnt lying about lol enjoy ur day ^
1 like@TrumpeterJen What if Discord did that on purpose? But yea I believe ur point, but when he *loves* testing people even SPike admits he even tests Starlights leadership in her temporary head mistress role or something, and Discord diddd release sombra and actually made a good choice except the other villains... but it was actually also a good choice he did so, cause look at that! Twilight realized what she needed and nt the harmony! Which was very smart of Discord! ;) Hope u have a nice day! <3
2 likesAlso one other thing does Luna also go into villains dreams? just saying uwu
2 likes@Bread T04STER-3 If Discord got caught on purpose, he'd have made it clear in the end. He loves nothing more than to brag about having "helped" someone.
2 likesYou can't call Discord's decision to release Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow a good choice just because it happened to work out in the end. He just got lucky. Even then, it could have long-lasting negative effects, like making the different types of ponies distrust each other and potentially weaken their defenses against the Windigos. Also, for as much confidence as the Mane 6 gained from it, the Pillars probably lost a lot. Equestria would have been much shakier overall after that, which could cause problems.
Discord has a lot of things, but foresight isn't one of them. Is it obvious I'm not a huge Discord fan? Lol.
@TrumpeterJen I am uwu
1 likeMor vidio
1 like@Sawtooth Waves oof
0 likes@TrumpeterJen but if discord didnt team up with tirek twillight would never found her key to the magic box.So i assume that he knew that if he betray twilight she will trade magic for friends and found sixth key to the box.And what about season nine why would he brought back tireck,crysalis and cozy glow,why didn't he bring back other villians?Because he knew that they will betray him and lost.He knew everything.
0 likes@Borislav Vučićević Discord teamed up with Tirek for power. He was just as surprised as everyone else when Twilight still took his side. No foresight there.
0 likesHe didn't know they would betray him. He admitted that himself. As I said above, he got lucky with the way things worked out--and there were other problems that stemmed from his leap of faith, as I've said.
You know how Starlight's name has "Star" In it? And Lauren said "And who controls the Sun,Moon And Stars?" Well Starlight could be the one who controls the stars! Now before you reply "But starlight is a unicorn, not alicorn" I know that but we have seen her magical power's though out the show.Also when Nightmare Moon was finaly set free starlight was still evil. Im not certain but i have a feel that Starlight could control the stars.
1 likeWhat if there was a 5th alicorn who controlled the stars
3 likesI think Celestia actually released her, becouse the sun is just a big star, so why wouldn’t she be able to control tiny stars?
0 likesi think that it can be a charecter that Laruen Faust made look im gonna explain (also it could be one of their parents)
1 likeshe may have made a Aunt of Celestia and Luna but it can be one of her parents one of their parents couldve controlled the Stars and the other the Light which leads down to Luna getting her Moon Powers and Celestia getting her Sun ones and the Aunt part let me put it in something that i thought of "One controlls the other Rises who can it be will we ever know can we blame the girl who's a sister to Celestia and Luna's Parents?"
Could the Stars be controlled by Starswirl himself?
317 likesJk.
Starswirl was in Limbo, he couldn’t have.
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Maybe he could have
10 likesJasmine Mathew My initial thought lol
8 likesOr could he ..?
11 likesHe is the inventor of the timetravel spell. He can do it again.
13 likesStarlight can made the same "fixes" to a new scroll.
-> The Rainbow of Light™ is still Secured, Contained & Protected inside the "chest/box" under the cutiemap [the "powersource" for a stable time_tunnel].
Also his name literally has star in it
7 likesOR COULD HE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4 likesOr could he?
2 likes[The iconic v-sauce jingle plays]
Prince Blueblood?
0 likesHe is not in LIMBO KEEP UP
1 likeOr...
1 likeBecky Tro he was not in Limbo at that time
1 likeJasmine Mathew ....right?
1 likeOr hAS HeeeEeEe
0 likesOr he did
0 likesYou never know 🤔😏
0 likesNo
0 likesThat was what I tot
0 likesI mean it is possible. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
1 likeWait a minute... what if Twighlight sparkle let her out by accident knowing that it's the 1000th year day long thing. Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon, Stars come out AT twightlight, what if Twightlight Sparkle controls the stars but doesn't know?
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Plz somebody notice this coment
0 likesBut aren't the stars the same size as the sun meaning that Celestia could control other suns other than the one we see in the show.
0 likesA sun is a star but Star Swirl made the tree of Harmony so the tree of Harmony and Star Swirl and a little bit of Celestia power made the stars move
0 likesI think the changes they fast in the first two ep. Is nightmare moon trying to stop them from getting to the element's.
0 likesImportant thing to note; J. K. Rowling DIDN'T just tweet Dumbledore being gay into being cannon, the information has always been available that he had a romance with Grindewald on the Pottermore site since it's creation. The reason most people didn't know this was because it wasn't relevant to the original story, and she clarified it for the sake of the newer movie, as it was going to involve parts of their relationship
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Yes, thank you!
3 likes@Diana Prince I understand that but when the movies were being made apparently they wanted to include a scene where Dumbledore mentioned having a crush on a girl and JK saw it and told them he was gay so she probably always thought of him as that.
1 likethe sun is technically a star so celestia could move the stars
0 likesDidnt twilight say how stars move overtime? Maybe the reason she got released is because of the passage of time. Then the tree of harmony got them united to defeat nightmare moon when they sensed the stars were aligning.
0 likesAm i the only one that always wanted to know how it was to be trapped in the moon
0 likesCelestia was sad to banish her sis so she broght her back she took preparations before setting her free so she taght twilight magic of friendship that defeated nightmare moon alas peace was restored ♥️
1 likeThe celestial troll face made me spit out my soup- XD
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It made me drop my MuFfIn
8 likesHISGAHISHIS SAME-
5 likesI don't think he should make a ugly face for the Princess :(
4 likesThe troll face matches her color too
6 likes@· My Little Pony Episodes · I take the troll face as a joke
4 likesthat face scares me and i have nightmares of that face for 2 days but im not scare anymore
1 like@Yong Soon Chia the face isent that bad
0 likesEven though it is bad
@French The Fennec Fox it was scary to me
0 likesbut Im not really scare now
I snorted my soup 😂
0 likesSHE DESERVES IT
0 likesit made me spit out my cereal- now my keyboard needs cleaning :(
0 likes0:46
0 likesI got scared XD
0 likes"Trollestia" is actually a very old meme from the earliest days of the fandom.
0 likesShe’s not only the night queen the night is connected to the stars it is always the Luna
0 likesWell the sun is a star so Celestia can still be an option. However, instead of moving the stars she lights them up when the moon rises, maybe?
0 likesTo sum up this theory:
0 likesThe stars aid in her escape,
THE SUN IS A STAR
IT WAS CELESTIA
You can turn in to Alcorns and unicorns and also you make a good point from Maimoona
0 likesWait a minute, four stars circling toward the moon and unleashing nightmare moon...
16 likesIsn't there a pony that has a cutie mark representing four stars in a vortex, a powerfull unicorn that taught the princesses how to rise the sun and the moon...
Yes I think this is because of Starswirl that nightmare moon was released, not directly because he was trapped on the limbo, but with a vector like the tree of armony he planted it after all.
Maybe the tree used starswirl's magic to release nightmare moon.
in this case, celestia's visions would have said her to send twilight to ponyville and would come from the tree itself the tree would also have advertised her of the return of her sister.
Also I think celestia can only control the sun because of her cutie mark but also, the sun is really close to equestria (like our sun)and asked like six powered unicorns to manipulate it so I think even with her alicorn powers, celestia could not manipulate the sun like the stars (that's not her destiny)
Ps:the starswirl's cutie mark is most certainly the picture on it's book but it's not sure
PPs: I'm not English or American so I did my best to respect the synthax and the ortograph
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Wait thats acually a good theory 😯
3 likesKinda stars are far away suns though its odd and in my dream my new mom was luna aka nightmare moon and my original one was killed by someone with grappling fingers and I found out gurwiseka did both murder her and has a dark relic called the death stone witch has both king sombra and the pony of shadow life essences
1 likeBut the sun is a star, so it'd make sense that Celestia can control other stars too.
0 likesYoutube ate my first comment :( but I was going to say, I vaguely remember a rumor that they changed Twilight's cutie mark from S1 to the other seasons to show her with 5 stars around the big middle star instead of 4. The 5 represents her friends, but the 4 could've represented the four freeing Nightmare Moon...? Another indicator that maybe this was where they were going is they had considered making Twilight's cutie mark like Moondancer's instead: a bunch of stars around a moon. Third, before they gave the soft retcon to her to make her an alicorn princess of Friendship, I felt like the obvious direction to take her was to put her in control of the stars and star magic, given her name, cutie mark...and now this.
0 likesOr, maybe it was actually Moondancer, out of jealousy for losing her friend Twilight or other such stuff! :)
I laughed when Luna was rolling on the moon 1:25
1 likeI think "I saw the signs" meant her seeing that Twilight and her friends were ready to meet and earn the elements. So then she could release Luna.
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that would still be needlessly deceptive on her part
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves *insert her troll face edit picture here*. Low-key see her doing something so vague to troll everyone lmao
2 likesNow if we read the tweet more carefully she says who controls the moon sun and stars but she didn’t really say when they controlled them now I have two theory one gusty the great only trapped the physical part of grogar and that grogar could still control his magic in equestria and he may have freed nightmare or that it was celalstia after all I mean the sun is a star so it is a possibility
0 likesI agree with Ajamkid but just in a different way, maybe when the tree on harmony sensed her coming, it thought it was time to see is Twilight Sparkle could wield the element of magic, so it released nightmare moon, I mean the elements of harmony are connected to the tree so when Celestia banished nightmare moon it was kinda the tree who banished her so the tree maybe had SOMETHING just SOMETHING to do with RELESING nightmare moon.
0 likesMaybe this is canon, but in the game of My Little Pony it says that "Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, responsible for raising the sun, the moon and the stars, she is also Twilight Sparkle's mentor."
0 likesSo it really depends on do you trust the game or not
I agree with Sawthooth. The sun is a star. Yes, but it’s also sorta a planet. Believe it or not. In our world it’s a star. But what does Equestrian think about our sun? Let’s say, Sawtooth makes a video about this theory and explain what he thinks about Equestira’s time difference or sun difference. I believe it’s a few hours off and the sun is NOT a star.
0 likesThanks for reading.
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HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A SECRET BROTHER TO CELESTIA AND LUNA?!
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Well Celestia did have a nephew in the gala episode so it’s possible
6 likesFanfic writers,get to your computers!
3 likesYeah! That could be true!
1 likeI think it’s her parents. Even though they aren’t shown much, dont you think the mom looks a little like the galaxy? Maybe SHE controls the stars.
2 likesAlthough I have no evidence to confirm that, don’t you think it would make a lot of sense? They knew it was the right time, and that Luna would be needed in the near future. Any sooner, and the mane 6 wouldn’t be ready to fight. Any later, and they would all be so weak from fighting other villains, there would be no way they could beat nightmare moon on top of everyone else!
Just think about that.
@aquatic angel Before Celestia and Luna existed, the unicorns rose and set the moon and sun together, until a powerful pony showed up that was able to control the sun all by herself, that is Celestia. Starswirl then began training Celestia. Not much information was given about Luna or if both of them were alicorns at the first place.
0 likes@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 big possibility
0 likesOooo yass
0 likesCelestia and Luna have a secret sister Astell starswirl mad her the first alicorn which made her Queen but she turned evil and Celestia banished her to the tapistry
1 likeCelestia's sister, who we don't know is the one who controls the stars!
0 likesStar Swirl can raise the sun, he has moon and stars on his outfit, I think star swirl is the one who freed nightmare moon.
0 likesWait a minute-
0 likesIf Celestia did set Nightmare Moon free, she would have a reason since she once argued to Luna and practically admitted she hated being on control with the Sun, Moon, the whole kingdom of Equestria, and Luna, and remember that one episode when she started to sorta tear up when she looked up at the Moon in a story about her being a bit anxious about her sending Twilight to Ponyville? She could have missed Luna so much along with the fact that she hated being on control with almost everything in Equestria that she set Nightmare Moon free.
Don't you think that sounds true?
When Nightmare Moon (Luna) was banished Celestia take her responsibility to move the Sun and Moon, she maybe move the Stars.
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Alex Draws same tho
4 likesHaha same
4 likesoNLinE learning
6 likesCelestial can control the sun and stars are suns so maybe Celestial let Nightmare moon out!😱
0 likesCelestia must have released nightmare moon to bring Luna back,Because she knew that she couldn’t alone rule Equestria. She also knew that twilight had it to defeat nightmare moon and even tho twilight couldn’t she had no choice. Celestia also shamed discord because she had guilt of even planning this. She wanted to reveal that she planned it. But every pony was to focused so didn’t realise and till the end of th episode they must have forgotten
0 likesI think that maybe she cast the spell on Luna so that in a thousand years she could escape overtime she would forget🤷 put when she saw the sign she remembered in that case 💼 Celestia wouldn't be a lair
0 likesThis actually made sense,I always thought that auntie Tia would do that to auntie lulu so great speculation and cool theory 💜💜💜🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
0 likesIn which episode was it showed that Celestia had visions?
0 likesMaybe that is a legend about another ancient pony who controls the stars, and then it happens to be the spirit of the tree
0 likesStarswirl used to control the SUN,MOON and STARS before the alicorn sisters celestia and Luna came into script
0 likesBut wouldn’t she send twilight to ponyville earlier? So she could let her sister free sooner? Also how did the book know? (If celestia set her free)
1 likeI always thought the Star will Aid in her Escape was inadvertently Twilight releasing NM by moving to ponyville. Why else would the ‘new ruler’ not show up originally in canterlot the capital?
7 likesWould also explain why when finding Twilight she took her under her wing as a student, a unicorn with stars as her mark. I do think it ties into the tree of harmony of course but more primarily Twilight and the element of Magic
First I just thought it was flurry heart's job to control the stars since she is destend to control light but she was born in the future but also maybe she time traveled with the help of twitight sparkle????🤔🤔🤔
1 likeSo we also know that the sisters parents are Queen Galaxia, creator of the galaxy and the sun, and King Cosmos, creator of the moon and STARS, so what is Celestia and Lunas dad set them free because he thought that Luna had cooled off?
0 likesthe sun is a star, so theoretically speaking she does controll the stars. then again if celestia controls the day and luna the night doesnt that mean that luna controls the stars, therefore luna herself could theoretically have alined the stars herself. oh and if you read the books youll see that a pony named sandbar(i think i havent read them in a while) controls the tide
0 likesRemember the summer sun festival, Luna sets the moon and Celestia rises the sun after the sun twilight made a star, does this mean the book that twilight read was a key to nightmare moon’s escape and twilight read it so it was unlocked? This is just a theory
0 likesI guess Celestia really missed her sister.
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I would also too, if I was in that situation
0 likesTheory so I think the ferry actually the bad guy coming up now
2 likesI’m sure all that happened was the spell depleted like what happened with discord when he got returned back from stone or was that another of celestia ideas
0 likesIn the movie twilight looking at the moon and the sun was connected to the moon maybe the sun was connected to the stars and moves it
1 likeI think that the tree was very involved in it because celestia did use the elements of harmony to banish nightmare moon so who's to say the elements didnt plan for this in advance and give celestia a vision saying her sister would be back
0 likesCelestia didn’t control the stars she just revealed them
15 likesI dont agree since the sun IS a star so if she can move the sun she can definitely move stars meaning it was her who released nightmare moon
0 likesI love celestias troll face lol but in twilights family we see a lot of star cutie marks
0 likesGet out the moon and control the stars to see what they're doing
0 likesReally the tree of harmony releasing a vilin would make it evil ,and using Celestia
0 likeswhat if Grogar wasnt a tyrant but the spirit of harmony and did everything to bring ponies together, and now is extending its realm over other species.....what if it feeds on harmony
0 likesMaybe it was part of the spell for maybe Celestia made sure Luna came and guided Twilight so she would be reformed
0 likesWell, Celestia makes the sun revolve around the earth, and due to Luna's banishment, Celestia had to take responsibility of the moon as well. In our world, ALL stars are stationary, in the mlp universe the sun moves, but it need not be the same for all the stars. The rest of the stars may have stayed in the same place (except for the time the "grogar theory" took place), so no one was really "controlling" the stars, either they were stationary, or...... doing something on their own under no ones control. I mostly believe in the "Grogar theory".
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or maybe celestia casted a spell on the stars which grgar was banished to, which allowed him to aid for Luna's (Night Mare Moon's) escaoe
0 likesThe stars are are symbols of magic and move of their own accord . They are what give the sun and moon princesses their immense powers like Cadence and shining's love.. justahunch!-pinkie pie.
0 likes("Spirit of the Tree of Harmony": Not gonna lie, I liked "destiny" a lot better.)
28 likesThe way I interpret fiction is more narrow than the way you do, which is fine, but let me explain my method. I think you have to balance in-universe and out-of-universe (author's original intentions). This works both ways: maybe at the start, it was supposed to be Celestia who moved those stars, but after nine seasons of implying Celestia was not involved, that nugget of author intentions was never ratified, and like you pointed out, it just doesn't fit.
But the other side of the coin is that if a concept did not exist IRL when the piece of fiction was created, the only way to retcon/reinterpret the older section with the new concept is to state it explicitly. Or, from an in-universe perspective: just as it's unlikely Celestia did it based on the fact that she never says she did, it's also unlikely the Tree did it, because there isn't a great case that the Tree was the successor to the role "destiny" played in the early seasons. And even after the Tree was introduced, they still appealed to destiny/Mag.of.Fdshp. to explain how the Mane 6 all were connected. Further, the Tree has little to no role in the final event of the show.
I'd say it's the nebulous "Magic of Friendship" thing that did it. That's the Deus ex Machina for this show, up until the very last fight.
Well the only pony who controls the stars is luna cause it's mentioned in the journal of the 2 sisters but the one who taught luna was star swirl so I'm not so sure
0 likesit was celestia we have proof she said this in season 8. I knew there was a speial grop of ponies in poneyville.
0 likesMy understanding is that it had to be Celestia who did it, since Stars are celestial bodies...she may have released her own sister on purpose to test Twilight Sparkle, that was the whole point why she was sent to Ponyville to "make friends"....
0 likesWait wait wait. Who controls the stars? I may have a theory. Just like Celestia and Luna control the sun and moon, what about twilight? Yes, I know this may be a little drastic, though. "Twilight" Sparkle? It just makes some sense, since her cutiemark is also a resemblance of the stars, as well as magic.
0 likesWhat if Lauren Faust got the inspiration to have horses poop on the ground from jk Rowling saying wizards just poop on the ground?
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Faust's tweet is several years old, Rowlings's is from last year, so maybe other way around? xD
43 likes@Sawtooth Waves theory intensifies
11 likesdon’t horses normally poop on the ground
7 likesI don’t think so but Great theory
3 likes“Oh dear princess celestia! We are so happy the nightmare was conquered! Tell us, princess, will the beast ever return?!”
0 likes“Uhh.. yeah...”
“When?!”
“Well uhmmmm... lets just say...in 1000 years...?... Im going to have to keep track of this aren’t I :/....”
Well, later in the show it shows that twilight controls the stars, and luna let twilight ‘organise the stars’ so..
0 likesI think the Tree Of Harmony was controlling the stars.
0 likesThe amount of images out of context that would be hilarious in this video is amazing 4:48
0 likesI think she released knowing Twilight and friends can stop her.
8 likesI think I know who controls the sun, moon, and stars. Lunas and Celestias mother! (btw I forgo there mother’s name)
1 likeOkay, Celestia controls the sun, and the stars released Luna.. or shall I say Nightmare moon, and what is the sun..??
0 likesA star!
So Celestia must've tried to keep Nightmare moon on the moon, but the 1000 years of banishment must of worn off and used power to bring her back, it was 4 stars, I think the 4 starts resemble:
The pegaside, the earth ponies, the unicorns and the alicorns. For such powerful magic it must've need everyone magic. And that's how I think Nightmare moon was brought back.
Probably magic doing it’s thing .
0 likesLuna brought herself back because she was the one the one that controlled the moon and stars that is what i think😁
0 likesHave you ever thought that
47 likesSTARswirl had something to do with her escape, he has star in his name, and moons on his hat..
Idk it’s just a theory I’m thinking about
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Wasn’t he like trapped
3 likes@Koko Nutnut yea but maybe some of his magic was still there, but I don't really know
1 like1. Starswirl was in limbo, time doesn’t pass there. There’s no way he would’ve been able to set any spell if time didnt even pass
2 likes2. Starswirl said “you’ve grown so tall!” To princess Celestia and Luna, meaning they were somewhat small and young before he was trapped in Limbo, probably before the events of Nightmare Moon
3. No, not just pecause they have star in the name does it mean they raise the stars. Yes Starswirl used to raise the moon and sun and maybe stars, but with Luna and Celestia he has no reason to keep doing so. We don’t even know if the stars are a thing that can be raised in this universe.
Its starswirl before celestia and luna were the rulers of equestria starswirl and the pillars raised the sun and the moon and starswirl can control the stars cause its in his name
0 likes@•Dweeb• not just because it’s in his name does it mean he can control them. We never had confirmation from the show that he can control them and there’s no evidence for it, just the name. Plus, he was in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so there’s no way he could’ve controlled them at that time
0 likesIf there is a princess for the moon, a princess for the sun, then there couldn't be a princess for stars could there???
0 likesMaybe Celetia's magic was not strong enough
0 likesMaybe Nightmare Moon broke out of the spell herself because she controls the night and stars are apart of the night.
0 likesThe spell would only last 1000 years celestea used or maybe the tree of harmony releast nightmare moon and told celestea that the tree will be releasing her to test if twilight and her friends were worthy of the elements of harmony and to protect equestria
0 likesLovee your theories 💕 ❤️
6 likesWell at the start it had already said that on the day of a thousand years the stars will aid in her escape so I think that someone already knew and had spread that news but was forgotten later but celestia vanished Luna so only celestia knows so I say celestia knew about what will happen with twilight and the others so she let nightmare moon escape
0 likesHan on how can Celestia turn into daybreaker when she controls the sun?
0 likesWhen I was younger I was scared of the intro because of the explosion
1 likeWell Celestia could do something like that.
0 likesIf those four stars that aided in Nightmare Moon's Escape was growga
0 likesr then he would have disappeared because no one sees those four stars after that
Does this make sense?
1 likeSo they said "Who controls the stars?" right? Well, what is the sun? Think abt it. The sun is a STAR so the title is TRUE-
Like if it makes sense :3
I disagree on 4:34 You said Celestia didn't control the stars but I may think that's incorrect. Based on the scene you gave us when celestia moved the sun, the stars disappear when she lifted it. This causes the stars to disappear based on the light that reaches from their star. She controls the stars but in a very easy way; she makes them invisible. What Lauren Faust said is actually correct. I think you just looked at it from a wrong perspective.
0 likesCelestia couldn't have released luna because u see in the last episode of season 5 luna was free even though celestia didn't find a pony that reflected the element of magic
0 likesWell...My sister did say “I saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return,” and...I just wanna say thank you to my sister for releasing me...um...My evil counterpart. The moon was getting a little boring
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(hugs the moon pony)
4 likesPrincess Luna, your majesty! I’m 1 of your biggest fans! 😊
6 likes@robloxgirlwithadog
4 likesYour turn to hug the moon pony now
Oh my gosh 😂
3 likesMLP Isabella Luna is a fictional character
2 likesMissy Burke
5 likes-_-
(Hugs) ^w^
3 likesAieris Frost OK!
2 likesMy princess I made a alircorn of my own I was inspired by your character it's you put green eyes pink coat and black hair
1 likedoes a pony bow
1 likeYour welcome, sister. -Celestia
4 likesPrincess Celestia , hi! You’re also one of my favorite princesses! 😅😅😅
3 likes(Don’t turn into Daybreaker! 😳)
@robloxgirlwithadog, I won't turn into Daybreaker! :-)
1 likePrincess Celestia, Thank goodness I thought you were jealous of her! 😅
1 like@robloxgirlwithadogWell I'm trying to be the best person possible. And I am happy that I released my sister. :-)
1 likePrincess Celestia good to hear! Thank you for subscribing to my channel! It’s such an honor! 😊
0 likesP.S: just a hunch! 😉
Princess Luna
4 likesDoes Princess Twilight Sparkle have a crush on Flash Sentry the Pony Guard from the Crystal Empire? Does Spike still like Rarity? Do Fluttershy and Discord like each other although they are unaware they like one another?
ashley spitzer I think I can only answer number 3! When Angel was pretending to be flutter shy he said I wanna marry discord! And remember the entire MLP fandom realized that the ship was true and were all freaking out! (Including me) and remember they were together in the last episode!
2 likesWell I have 3 days left until my 21st birthday arrives and also. *Bows to you
2 likesIt’s such an honor to see you, your majesty and haven’t you ever heard of the legend of the seventh element of harmony?
Santiago Siliceo happy birthday! 🥳
1 like@robloxgirlwithadog
1 likeThank you for saying that!
@robloxgirlwithadog
1 likeAlso haven’t you heard anything about SSBU version of Megalovania?
@Princess Celestia
1 likeHello there , your majesty. *bows to you too
But if you don’t mind me asking but, what would my scent of Cherries and fruit would do to you if you caught my scent and so would your sister?
I know ... Earth is much more fun😆🖤
2 likes@Nightmare
1 likeExcuse me please, I live there on that planet! But if you even think about going to my planet aka Earth... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5irMZy0oY You’re not going to like what happens next.
Hi
1 likeOMG what is an actually used me he didn't have like Bruno I'm a really big fan of Luna anyways I like campers you got up there literally Luna
1 likeYou saw the signs of a nightmare mode
1 likelol
1 likeI'm sorry signs of a Nightmare Moon
1 likeAre you actually Princess Luna
1 likeAre you actually Princess Leia
1 likeAnyway Princess Luna is my favorite princess in My Little Pony
1 likeI love u
1 likeXD a fictional character came to life 😂
1 likeHere’s a theory idk if it’s the best...
0 likesI think Celestia actually freed Nightmare Moon because the four stars represented love, Moon, sun, friendship so I think Celestia freed her when she thought twilight sparkle was ready and she got back on her hooves, but maybe also the tree of harmony, maybe the tree of harmony used celestias magic to free Nightmare Moon and also the stars came from the ground so MAYBE???
your right cause while those stars are moving the tree of harmony has one in the center
0 likesIt's the tree of harmony. There really isn't any debate possible on this one. The tree has shown time and time again that it has the ability to control destiny, even when time travel is involved. As long as the end result is more harmony, the tree will pretty much do or at least predict anything. Even going so far as to predict the actions of Discord, the god of chaos. It is pretty much a guarantee that the tree is completely responsible for this. Especially when considering that there are more symbols on the tree than just the elements. Do I need to remind anyone what symbols are below the centre star on the tree? The sun and the moon.
0 likesThe legend narrated in the first episode tells that Celestia raises the sun, and that she had raised the moon and stars in her sister's absence. A display of Celestia raising the sun is depicted in The Cutie Mark Chronicles, and the sunrise coincides with Princess Celestia's return in Friendship is Magic part 2
0 likesRemember that episode with Rockhoof in season 8? When they crashed into that rock, Twilight said that over time the stars do move .That is why Rockhoof miscalculated because the stars were in a different place 1000 years ago. Even if that's not how fast or slow stars move in OUR world (I'm no expert,I really don't know),this is Equestria; science and magic work differently.Maybe they are even moved by something or someone(perhaps the Tree itself). That supports your theory that it was the Tree who freed Nightmare Moon. Do you think this is plausible or was what Bookhorse said inaccurate?
13 likesThe one who controls the star is Celestia when Nightmare Moon is in imprisoned Celestia takes control of both the moon STARS and the sun
0 likesStar swirl and the pillars of Equestria were the ones who created the tree of harmony in the first place
0 likesthey must of had something to do with this
This channel gives so much information
0 likesSawtooth I think your forgetting something……………..the tweet said sun, moon and stars………………..and the sun is a star, so with little doubt it could be Celestia
0 likes4:16 technically the sun is a star so Princess Celestia technically controls the stars ;-;
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The sun is a star on earth but it’s probably different for Equestria..
3 likesYeah but she probably can only control the sun
0 likesI personally think Star Swirl is the one who controls the stars
0 likesNot celestia… here’s my proof… starlight… when she went back in time and stopped the rainboom twilight wouldn’t have gotten on celestial radar so celestial wouldn’t have set her free if no one could stop her
0 likesYou can’t think of STAR swirl? Because he was one of the unicorns that raised the sun and moon before celestia and luna
0 likesSun is also a star so if Celistis controlled sun then she controlled the stars
0 likesI think that Grogar did release Luna, sacrificing himself instead of her. I think he had the power to release himself, but helped release Luna, thinking she had a better chance to take over Equestria. Luna might also control the stars, so as Nightmare Moon she could free him for extra help with ruling Equestria later on.
3 likesStarswirl was the only one who appreciated Luna - maybe he set her free
0 likesMe after hearing “ Yoshi dark lord “ for the 150th time:
1 likeAight imma head out
Or maybe it really is Celestia… from fan side, look at ,,Lullaby for a Princess”
0 likesStarters is just like the sun so doesn’t Celestia control the stars?
0 likesHmm I think that a similar thing like with Discord happened - Discord’s spell was broken once the princesses lost connection to the elements. Here, the banishment spell lasted 1000 years in a means that Celestia couldnt have used her Magic to bring Nightmare Moon back - otherwise she would have brought her back sooner and reform her herself but all the references in the show suggest that she couldnt. Now at the time of the end of the 1000 years period Celestia already had Twilight as a student and knew about her future friends and since she obviously had princessy plans for Twilight from early on she figured out that perhaps it would be better if Twilight learned to use the elements instead of just reforming Nightmare Moon herself. Now with the stars... Celestia does not control the stars directly but has access to the star realm seen in the Magical Mystery Cure episode where Twilight becomes an alicorn. When Twilight is turned into an alicorn a bright star appears in the sky. For that reason I think that Celestia was the one who released Nightmare Moon. She said she ‘saw the signs’ but those signs were actually those 1000 years that passed which meant she could use her Magic to break the spell. So she sent Twilight to Ponyville and then entered the star realm to use her spell to free Nightmare Moon at the right moment (which appeared on the sky like a bunch of stars freeing her) and stayed in the realm watching over Twilight. When the mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon Celestia raised the sun and returned from the star realm.
3 likeshow tf was celestia so certain that she would find the one who can bear the element of magic in a thousand years time heck how did the prophecy know
0 likesCelestea-I can just waste the windows I broughted
0 likesTwilight did. And here is why; Twilight has the same cutie as the stars that surround the moon. However; I believe Luna was trapped inside of Nightmare Moon, and Nightmare Moon was trapped in the moon. And she didn’t say that she saw the signs of Nightmare Moon’s return, but rather her sister Luna’s return. Twilight’s cutie mark has stars in it, not only that; Twilight Sparkle and her friends facilitated the return of Luna be redeeming Nightmare Moon and freeing Luna from the darkness and evil within her that made her Nightmare Moon in the first place.
0 likesI dont think anyone noticed this but I rewatched the episode and the second twilight arrived theres a little easter egg, the same stars were on big macs cutie mark for a second
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Lol
0 likesUm... I don't get it 😞
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0 likesLol
0 likes*R.I.P me from laughing so hard*
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1 likeOk so they are a youtuber
Hello my explainers and entertainers!
3 likesAll hail the oodilolie bronies; the oodleonies
0 likeslol-
0 likesThe part I saw Princess Luna doing The funny walk that I saw was so funny.
0 likesCant we all just agree this is a show for kids and theres no backstory or odd theories lol🤣
0 likesI still could be celestia as she knew twilight didn’t want to make friends so celestia realeased nightmare moon so twilight would discover FRIENDSHIP
0 likesI think the tree of Harmony did it because they knew that the main six was at their time was like really strong and like I think the tree might have told Celestia to send Twilight to Ponyville to stop stop the madness
0 likesMany fans say that Luna controls the stars as well, due to her personality being more associated with the arts, and her night often referred to as "beautiful", which would be strange if stars were not involved at all. But many also say that Celestia didn't really touch them all that much during her sole rule, either from a lack of power (she had to handle both celestial bodies) or a lack of artistic talent. So she could be still able to control the stars without deciding to do so for thousands of years.
4 likesI still agree that the Tree instigated everything and used Celestia, and is likely the source of her visions in the first place, if you think about it.
I just had a thought. We don't know if the pony world is a planet or a flat disc, but if it were a planet like ours, when Celestia moved the sun she would move it to the other side of the planet (assuming the sun and moon move around the planet), the moon would replace it. They wouldn't be moving in a constant orbit otherwise Celestia wouldn't need to do anything, or she would be using her magic all the time, but she doesn't. This means that she literally moves it from one side to the other, so there are two quarters of the planet in between where it is always twilight (with very brief nights and days when the moon and sun is moved across them, but moving the moon and sun is seen to only take a couple of minutes). I think this 'twilight zone' could be some kind of wasteland, since there are also no ponies to control the weather or the seasons. Or it could be more like the everfree forest, where it controls the seasons and weather itself.
0 likesI think it was a tree and Celestia because Celestia controls the sun and the stars are the sun so she can control with the tree it’s alive as we all know that we saw in season eight so the tree probably was talking she has visions so she probably saw the six and the tree and Sebastian planned out reform 😏
0 likesHang on a minute, queen Galaxia is luna and celestia’s mother right? Queen galaxia probably controls the stars . It would make sense for her own mothe to release her
0 likesHoly ravioli i just noticed: lauren said to watch the episode again and i did……and the way the stars were arranged were EXACTLY like the stars on……………………………………..STAR SWIRL’S CUTIE MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesInteresting theory, but I don’t think that it was even something we know of that moved the stars
3 likesWhat if Celestia really didn’t move the stars except ponies never really realized it so they didn’t add it
0 likesIts Star Swirl He was in the group of the wizards who raised the sun and the moon and star swirl can control the stars
0 likesWhen it is night then it is dark then we can see the stars
3 likesUk what i wanna know? 🤔Who the heck controlled all the celestial bodies ...raised the sun and moon before gregor came ..before the unicorn grp ? When their were just farms and pastures....since i am pretty sure the farms are gonna need the light cycles to grow...and the inhabitants to exist for that matter..😂
0 likesit says in the 1st episode, that celestia took responsibility for both SUN AND moon And harmony remained ever since.
3 likesUnless.. A young pony had earned her cutie mark by moving those stars..what if that pony knew about nightmare moon? Dont forget twilight had a book that spoke about the details of nightmare moon so..that doesn't mean another pony couldnt have had a book either, maybe there is secretly a pony that can control stars positioned around the moon think about it if the princess said “I saw the signs of her return” She may have seen the stars move herself it makes me belive that some pony actually set nightmare moon free maybe by accident thinking she may had been turned back to her original princess luna form. Now maybe another pony also knew about the tree of harmony..or had a vision of what they need to do maybe they had a vision of the stars moving and MAYBE princess luna telling her to move the stars and set her free. Dont forget that not all of nightmare moons magic was banished to the moon with her, some pony may had earned there cutie mark by releasing her but they may have had no idea of nightmare moons return themselves. This was just a thought I had I cant remember exactly seeing any ponys with stars as there cutie marks but maybe they was 4 ponys that moved each star and got their cutie marks..
0 likesi think both of the sisters set luna free. hear me out. luna would have control of the star and moon. there both night things so i imagine it. and celestia controls the sun. she probably saw a vision of luna being free and maybe luna did to. so i sugget they worked together. thats why luna was suprised. she didnt know that she was helping.
0 likesOkay season 7 ep 1 celestial advice- I fully support the theory that celestia used twilight to harness the elements and free her sister from the moon and conform her back to good. 5 minutes and 30s from the end of the show Celestia is talking about how she’s trying to get young twilight to talk and make friends- without having to send her away. Knowing that’s something twilight could easily avoid- she looked to the nightmare” moon and sighs saying how she must send her away. - fully support this theory that this was an orchestrated plan
0 likesWho controls the stars celestia controls the sun and the sun is a star 🌟
1 likeI have a little theory: The sun is a star too, so maybe Celestia can control stars. Maybe she helped Nightmare Moon with the stars to escape somehow, and Nightmare Moon set herself free. I mean, if you were banished to the moon, you would try to escape too, right? So Celestia couldve just helped Nightmare Moon to escape while Nightmare Moon somehow got herself free by her own Magic. Now to the line: "I saw the signs of Nightmare Moons return" i think with "signs" she meant signs that it worked. She could've seen those stars come closer to the moon or something, after she did some sort of spell.
21 likessawtooth, some advice. watch the start of the episode carefully. where do you see stars...?
0 likesMabye the banishing spell doesn't reverse until a thousand years
0 likesThink about it: when the pillers where banished to limbo they where gone for a thousand years until the mane 7 freed them
maybe before the tree controlled the sun moon and stars or its celestia cause sun is a star i guess.or it could be star swirll because before clestia and luna ruled star swrill took care of the things.
0 likesWhat if the celestial from the human world came saw the moon with a pony in it tried to protect herself by using magic but because she can't handle it she accidentally released nightmare moon because she is principle of da school so controlls Luna kind of (moon) and obviously the sun. One of the students could be a star controller as well like maybe is very interested in them so in the pony word they make a vanishing spell for day and make them come back at night!
1 likePLEASE READ!!!! Maybe there was a third sister of the stars, keeping them in place who was younger, or even Luna making sure the stars were in place. You may try to argue that if there was a third sister of the stars, why havent we heard of her? And what about Celestia and Luna's past? Well in my book, the journal of the two sisters,(its also included in the first time the main six visited the castle of the two sisters when twilight finds the secret room and sees a book called the journal of the two sisters) it gives some info about what happend before the started ruling, plus it mentions that they knew star swirl when they were young alicorns. Even before they got there cutie marks! And if they did come from some where else, and were born alicorns, it makes sense. when Celestia said the birth of an alicorn was some thing Equestria had never seen, and luna saying that it is beyond there understanding, it probably means that they wouldnt expect to see an Equestrian pony give birth to an alicorn. Even though Rarity said she thought alicorn wings had to be earned by a princess worthy deed, (AKA creating new magic) there is no way the royal sisters' backstory or past is commonly known. Sorry its so long, i had alot to say. Please reply telling if you agree or disagree and why.
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Yea I believe the two sisters did came from outside Equestria
0 likeswell the sun is a giant star but i dont know if it is concidered one in equestria there it might as well be a giant ball of magic that celestia raises
0 likesI think Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's little sister if they have one might control the Stars and accidentally freed Nightmare Moon
0 likesI think the tree has a Connection with the moon and the sun(NO SUNNNN) so I think that the tree let Luna go.
0 likesI think nightmaremoon release herself because in session 5 remark nightmare was still got out and in the episode the royal problem Luna said" I have your magic and your magic is useless in the dream world" so maybe her magic is useless on the stars too!
0 likesI'm seeing a lot of people say "The Sun is a star, so she can control the stars too" But that's true for our world. Perhaps the stars are totally different in the MLP world. As for who controls them, I'm still subscribed to the Grogar Theory because it still makes sense. Idk.
3 likesCelestia is now a director for music
0 likesMaybe nightmare moon herself?
0 likesI mean she does control the Moon.
What if, what if it was twilight, the tree did take form of twilight when leading the other students in season 8 or 9. And Twlight knows alot about the stars but she probably didnt do it intentionally
0 likesTo be clear it was the rainboom that made the mane 5 going to ponyville but it was celestia who sent twilight to ponyville
0 likesI've always had this theory, so even if it's not 100% canon, I'm glad Lauren Fausts thinks the same :')
4 likesI heard that celestia and lunas father controlled the stars and the moon before Luna did, but that wouldn’t make sense because Luna controlled the moon after he did and didn’t control the stars...
0 likesI actually created a princess that controls the stars 😂
0 likesCelestia Could have been the one Who release nightmare moon because The sun is also a star and she said who controls the sun moon and stars 😑😑😑
0 likesNow, I know that Luna doesn't control the Sun. But her cutie mark tells us she controls the moon and stars... She can move both the moon AND the STARS... Maybe, she set herself free
0 likesDo you remember that thing about how discord was created as a counteract to harmony well if this theory is true and the spirit of harmony did set nightmare moon free then wouldn’t that cause at least a little chaos 🤷♀️🤔
4 likesI think grogar are realeased nightmare moon. Because he sent cozy,sombra,and chrysalis to attack equestria. I think grogar wanted to do the same with nightmare moon.
0 likesif u see the tree of harmony theres sun moon and star in middle does twilight or starlight can control stars if there will be season 10 so it means yes
0 likesAren’t the stars the same thing as the sun so it could be celestia controlling them
0 likesNope it was another alicorn who... well it was starlight with time travel. She is going to be an alicorn. I know from a rip in the space time continuem. She uses time travel in the future when she was trying to mess up the main six, this attempt changed nothing. But obviously Starlight as an alicorn controls stars. She help nightmare moon escape. This is what happened
0 likesUnless this is some sort of next-level typo, could Luna possibly have (somehow) released herself? Considering both the 'Sun and moon and stars' were mentioned, Wouldn't Luna have control over the stars? During the series, Celestia and Luna a strictly bound to raising/lowering the sun/moon for their specific part of day. Of course, Celestia had to either assume the role of raising/lowering the moon while Luna was imprisoned, or maybe she'd (Luna) been doing it herself? Also, bonus; If I remember correctly, In 'A Royal Problem, Celestia seems blatantly unaware of Luna'd duties as if she'd never assumed her roles before?? Ignore this I guess lmao)
4 likesAnd I saw a few comments mentioning that the sun is a star, but this is Equestria we're talking about; The sun might not even classify as a star because logic doesn't exist??
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Did you think the case of Luna , same parts similar stygian ?
0 likesStygian seems have able to communicate and think even make a move inside pony of shadow , so maybe Luna still have abilities to do something during nightmare moon
And that's how I consider about it.
Quantum Production Studios omg I just thought of something. What if Nightmare Moon got help from Celestia on the thousandth year too get out of the moon?!
2 likesWell sun is the closest star to us and Celestia controls the sun so technically she could control the stars too?
0 likesMaybe the tree of harmony controls the stars the pony's the used to rise
0 likesThe sun and moon maid the tree of harmony maybe they made it to rise the stars star swirl maybe had the idea his name is"star" swirl maybe just a suggestion what do you
Could it be Starswirl that control the stars?
0 likesYou came oh my God people keep missing details in the story of Celestia it says when she banished her sister to the Moon she became the bear of the moon and sun which means she controlled night and day if she controls night it means she controls the Stars
0 likesI also tought of Starlight, beacuse there IS a star in her cutie mark, AND in her name, but why WOULD Starlight care about that?
10 likesAlso, you can make a video about Starlight and Cadences future!
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Well then twilight would have been able to control twilight
0 likesSo if Luna was on the moon, does that take her powers away? No it doesn't. So maybe she freed herself by moving the stars. Think about it.
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But why wouldnt she let her self free faster?
0 likesMaybe... I DON'T KNOW OKAY I'M ONLY 10 I'M A YOUNG CHILD I DON'T KNOW THINGS I HAS A SMALL BRAIN
0 likesTHE THUNBNAIL-
0 likesIt might be celestia because the book was written already someone like celestia must have freed her
0 likesI think it is starlight glimmer who set night mare moon (princes luna) free because her name starts with starlight. Sure she came out in a different season but I think its her who let night mare moon (princes luna) free
0 likesEvery time the sun goes up in my little pony the stars go away I think no one really knows who controls the stars but when The moon goes up The stars comes!
0 likesBefore luna got banished she controlled the moon and stars.
0 likesAfter she was banished Celestia took all of lunas duties which means she also controlled the stars.
So YOU'RE the false one!
starlight could be the one that is useing the stars
0 likesI think it is Celesta because the sun is a star
1 likeCelestian is actully moving the stars or just one cause the sun is a star
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I was about to comment that. Thank God someone pointed.
1 likeActually, in our world, sun is a star but different in equestria, sun is not a star in equestria. So Celestia not controlling the stars.
3 likesI have an answer to that! And drumroll please.... Astra! AKA my OC. Yeah Ik Ik she's not ACTUALLY in the show, but she's the lost sister of Celestia and Luna who's job is to move the stars around. She's from the alicorn civilization (as which you theorized in another video) and she looks a lot like her mother but in black and purple, close to Luna but not quite bc she's not just this blueish black, she is PITCH black with a purple fade on her horn, legs, wings and mane and tail. She with-holds a lot of power in order to move billions of stars. In equestria, it's shown that the sun is about the same size as the moon, compare that to every star we can see on the sky and Astra looks like a Goddess compared to the princesses. Why so overboard? You may ask, I mean she's not just a side character, she plays a huge role, even though she's just an OC, well, if I'm gonna have an original character that I can make however I want, I'd rather go big or go home!
0 likesMaybe grogar! I think he was imprisoned in the stars he might have enough magic to move them and
0 likesI think Nightmare Moon control the star to escape but I am not sure yet but I think the sun control the star to unleash Nightmare Moon so I predict that Nightmare Moon found magic so if twilight accidentally unleash Nightmare Moon because twilight cutie mark is a pink star and her cutie mark is like the star at night time . People might ask why do you comment this because I think this is the problem for the video that Sawtooth Waves is doing.
2 likesIf I’m being honest I think it was STARlight glimmer or STARswirl. We know that starlight holds a lot of unicorn power and Starswirl has stars all over him (just a theory tho)
0 likesSawtooth: how come she knew everything about this? Meh: Celestia bows everything
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Did you mean knows? You wrote bows instead if you wanted to right knows
0 likesWe can see stars at night but not morning because morning has lots of light
1 likeWait I have 2 theories its either star swirld (unlikely) or Daybreaker (Likely)
0 likesI choose daybreaker more since she is also a VILLIAN aka evil celestia she can also control the sun but you may ask
"But what about the stars??" Well heres what I think Day = Light = Heat = Heated Gases = Stars but celestia wouldnt really set a villian but a villian would free another villan now back to the stars daybreaker never appeared on the show but she could have been banished WAYYY before if there was a place where the sisters came from there is a possibility daybreaker was banished there instead but daybreaker would want to set night mare moon free since probably making an apperence wouldnt really make much sense since if she went all the ponies wouldnt know her or if she was a villian at first but she probably just set night mare moon to do it since she wasnt banished to the moon so somehow they would meet and get along then thats when the plan comes she will control the stars and set night mare moon free as she will do most of the work and free her after but WHAT HAPPENED? She got reformed and daybreaker was stuck there as for when miss I WANT ALL THE CUTIE MARKS OF MY TOWN dreamt about her in the night realm as she more of a evil celestia she would be able to move stars so THATS BASICLY AN ANSWER
Remember how laruen said it was a pattern it's a diamond! and look at Celestias crown its has a diamond! it all makes sense! ♢
0 likesTwilight accidentally released her Twilight released Nightmare Moon she did not realize that she accidentally used her magic remember when Twilight took over the Royal sister's place and they fused there crowns and what is the Sun a star and when do you See Stars the night and what is also present in the night the Moon Twilight controlled the Stars accidentally she had the power to but that was only a little so she could only move 4 stars what happens after she takes over the sister's place she can move the Stars perhaps helping the Dream Team which you have theorized about before
0 likes4:47hopefully not a big one since we’ve seen how bad of an actress she is...
11 likesI think "who controls the sun moon and stars" We know celestia controls the sun luna controls the moon right? no other princess we have seen has controlled a natural time BUT there are 5 "known" princesses in Equestria known there might be other princesses that we have not seen so maybe the princess of the stars "we've never seen" could have bailed nightmare moon out you guys might say that there can only be 5 princesses because celestia and luna said that but there might be other alicorn princesses that they have not heard of just like the tale in the episode "hearts and hooves day" the CMC's tried to get Big mac and there teacher together but then they found a love potion and gave it to their teacher and big mac but then the found out it was a love poison because they got all goo-goo on each other. there was a prince that had a crush on a princess and gave her a love potion, but it was a love poison the princess in that story was an alicorn this proves that there are other alicorns beside the 5 so maybe there is a princess of the stars that we haven't seen in the show that bailed nightmare moon out you guys might be like Jax if we haven't seen them in the show it means they don't exist guys just because we haven't seen them in the show doesn't mean they don't exist take gro gar for an example we saw he was discord we haven't seen the real gro gar in the show but he certainly exists in the world of friendship is magic so i like my theory but i like your theory the brony notion
0 likesTheory:Midnight moon was a normal alicorn she wanted to be a queen she followed every step she controlled the stars When Luna found out she banned midnight moon from the castle she went to cadence's castle cadence said no she went to the moon to go see the stars but.. When she went there she got sucked into the moon no one saw her again except s1 e1 no one talked about her it was like she wasn't here in equistia anymore then the moon faded then that spot on the moon was made she was trapped over thirty years and more and when she got kicked out she was a young pony Celestia told every pony to keep it a secret expect to tell the main six.. Well that's my theory bye every pony and every human!
0 likesI have a theory of what may have happened its a stretch and kind if out there but it could be possible
0 likesLuna helped nightmare Moon escape
The Shadow pony may have existed before Nightmare Moon did, instead of Nightmare moon creating the Shadow pony by remnants of her dark magic what if the dark magic created Nightmare Moon.
Maybe the Shadow Pony just needed a willing host and since Luna wanted revenge on Celestia she indirectly became a willing host for the shadow pony. The two if them stayed separated beings, the Shadow Pony only needing control over a physical body and when it got it Luna was held captive like The Pony of Shadows and Stygian.
When the elements of Harmony banished her to the moon some of the Shadow Pony detached and remained in equestria. Which is why the second time the Elements were used Luna was able to be freed. Unlike the first time when the Shadow Pony was still a fully in control of her the redemption wouldn't have worked. The spell was too strong for Luna or the Shadow Pony to break but I the 1000th year is when the spell finally weakened enough for Luna, the princess of the night as She told Scootaloo, who controlled the Moon and as the princess of the night the stars too, to help herself escape.
Also when the elements removed the darkness it wouldn't remove the past trauma and anger that caused Luna to give in to begin with. Removing the darkness won't make someone happy again with Stygian he had to be convinced to finally move on and forgive before he was saved. Over the years Luna had time to think and see the damage that giving into hate caused which is why when she was finally free of the Shadow Pony she was willing to work alongside her sister again, but when she first returned the darkness of the Shadow Pony still had control over her until the Elements of Harmony was able to seperate it from Luna
She released Luna like she did with discord so the mane 6 could reform her
0 likesCelestia always knows everything, but she never did anything useful...
10 likesLike always.
if it's the tree of harmony it makes sense, there is sun, moon,and star on the tree🤪
0 likeswhat if twilight traveled through time and freed nightmare moon
0 likesI mean the sun is a star so she moves at least one.
0 likesHE CONTROLED THE STARS, MOON AND SUN AND HE PROABALY LET NIGHT MARE MOON OUT OF THE MOON
0 likesI bet Celestia was laughing hard when she saw every pony be terefide when Nightmare moon said;: The night will last forever! Hahahahaha! And Celestia is like: not under Twilight's hooves!😀😎
0 likesHonestly,I think it’s celestia did it bc she wants to test the mane 6
0 likesCelestia probably controls the stars because the stars are suns
0 likesThe sun, moon, and stars are controlled by someponys magic
0 likesTbh I think that she wanted to take a test of mane 6 and twilight passed it see the season 9 again that princesses retired she said the whole life was a test of you
1 likeI see Princess Cellstia laughting
0 likesI think it was Starlite shimmer because she was evil and she was probably powerful enough
0 likesI just wanna ask this…is there a pony god?
0 likesMaybe there's a secret alicorn that celestia tought to become the princess/prince of the stars
4 likesI think Luna released herself because she controls the moon and STARS
0 likesWell, the sun is star, Isn't it mean CELESTIA released Nightmare Moon. Lauren Faust is not wrong at all
0 likesI THINK IT'S STAR SWIRL!!!!! HE'S THE ONE WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WOULD TURN OUT GOOD!!! and think about it the one who controls the STARS. STAR swirl! Only me?? Really.
1 likeMay I say that yea there is no pony that controls stars Equestrian is a mysterious land but still Celestia could have did this to free Luna we know she missed her also I feel bad for the pony’s in the past because when Luna was in the moon who gave pony’s good dreams
0 likesin season 9, twilight replaced the princesses and controlled both the sun and moon, and her cutie mark is a star
0 likesWho controls the Stars? No one. So the answer is no one. No one helped her escape. The alignment of the Stars gave her the power to escape. It’s that simple.
0 likesI think it's ✴ because she has a star cutemark
0 likesNot all that glitters is gold.
0 likesNot all that twinkles are stars.
Consider.
Magic and Space have always intertwined. From the most powerful unicorns having stellar names, to magic itself representing itself as both aura and sparkles.
When Nightmare Moon was imprisoned, she became a literal feature on the moon. All the extra mass and magic has to go somewhere. Perhaps, as "stars" that surrounded the moon? Or perhaps, those "stars" were merely magic gathered over a thousand years, in order to pull herself out of her "imprisonment".
Perhaps, this is a case of Nightmare Moon literally pulling herself together again.
(Blasts of powerful magic against Darkness based beings, in show, have this habit of blasting them into pieces. The "lunar sea" that was Nightmare Moon was both her portrait, prison and her impact zone. Kinda of a dark and yet humorous image)
(... this could also mean that she was still "fragmented" on her return. Definitely not powerful enough to take Equestria, like in Starlight's timeline (yet), which is probably why she fled instead of outright invaded. (Also indicated by "low power" (Season 1) Luna, post EoH.) Luna's rescue could be a blunt force version of how Stygian was saved. If she had been at full power, it probably wouldve ended in another impact zone, and another thousand years)
hmm well if i had to guess i would say twilight even though her whole thing is friendship her cutie mark is a star, could she maybe have triggered it accidentally?
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Lol like reading the prophecy would release nightmare moon.
2 likes@Jocelyn Gilbey Who is the book writer, why did the book writer knew that the stars will release Luna in 1000 years?
0 likesProbably not, the stars were set to release her in a 1000 years as soon as she was brought up there, and Twilight definitely wasn’t born yet.
0 likesProbably not. My theory is that as soon as Luna/Nightmare Moon was sent to the moon, a 1000 year timer started and the stars would move little by little every year, until she was finally freed. So it’s still sorta Celestia who did it because she sent her up there and when she was sent up there she accidentally started a timer, which was the stars getting closer and closer.
1 likeSawtooth I think both groagar and celestia released nightmare moon think of it celestia moved the stars and groagar did the nessesary magic to release her and probaly celestia knew groagar was up there
0 likesWhat if Celestia and Luna had another sibling that controlled the stars. And maybe Celestia made a deal with that sibling and that Luna would be released when the time comes.
0 likesI think its Celestia becaues if Celestia and Luna can both ries the sun and moon they can control the stars to
1 likeI am sure celestia release nightmare moom to test twilight and I think star swirl contral the star because he's name also matched
0 likesHmmm, StarSwirl? Maybe he's the one behind it all?
0 likesMAYBE he's the one controlling the stars?
Sorry I'm in the middle of the video
I might say Twilight continues the stars or straight, I think straight conttrolls the starsthe stars
0 likesThe tree of the 5 elaments because we have not seen anyone control the stars also they appear when luna raises the moon.
0 likesI think Nightmare Moon set herself free tbh I mean the stars come out at night with the moon and nightmare moon is luna and luna has moon power sooo 🤨
0 likesBut aren’t planets or the sun/moon usually referred stars
0 likesI think star swirl is the key because his name has star in it
0 likesCelestia: releases Nightmare
0 likesNightmare: traps her in her place
Celestia: surprised pikachu face
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I think Celestia let herself get captured.
0 likesWait isn’t she supposed to come out in the 1000 year /: I lost brain sails
0 likesWho controls the moon sun and stars? The sun is technically a star
0 likescrazy theory but i think celestia controls the star bc the sun is a star so it means all the stars are controlled by celestia the only problem is celestias cutie mark is just the sun so how can she control the stars i think its bc she has the power to raised the sun and the moon so it give her a chance to raised the stars too its in between.
0 likesWhat if groagar did her escape? Celestia banished her and she woundnt let her go. Groagar escaped first and then released nightmare moon. It could be like that. The stars, they are the trap to groagar. He found a way to escape and released her.
0 likesmaybe luna controlled the star ok so she waits a thousand years because she didnt have that much power yet sa i think she waited a thousand years to gain enough power and controlled the stars so that she can escape but i think she can only use it once so ye i dont think its celestia
0 likesPrincess Celestia released Nightmare Moon to turn her back into Princess Luna.
0 likesI think I know how she turned into nightmare Moon
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She was in despair as she was sad of her punishment and her soul fell into a demons hoofs!
0 likesI want to know this a sun is a star Celestia must have done it cuz technically in a way a sun is a star
0 likesBut what if Celestia and Luna have a younger sister that controls the stars. Maybe she was not sent from the Alicorn civilisation to restore peace between the three tribes because she was too young. Celestia and Luna might have forgotten all about her. When Celestia was still the only ruler her younger sister must have herd about this. So when the legend said the stars would free her she used her magic to free her and new that a new ruler would step up and her two sisters would come back to the Alicorn civilisation.
0 likesSince the creator of mlp did tweet there are no toilets and they poop on the ground it can be already be proven wrong because I remember at sweet apple acres The Episode called The Perfect Pear Granny Smith Goes into an out house
3 likesMaybe its the tree of harmony, but don't you think Lauren Faust meant princess luna because the sun is a star?
0 likesMaybe celestia released night mare moon because she thought that twilight and the mane six would succeed and she was right and I think celestia may new that twilight would be alive the time when night Mare moon would be released
0 likesme: - sees video -
1 likeme: I WAS RIGHT?!
me: - watches video -
me: oh... nevermind...
Maybe STAR swirl's essence in the tree of harmony did it
0 likes(DISCLAIMER): This is quite literally an essay on my theory! (Like 5-6 paragraphs). Be prepared for a long read!
30 likesI'm finding quite a few things that contradict your theory from watching the show alone. (Sorry i've been doing this lately).
So to get started, you state that a response from the creator hinting at Celestia may or may not be true. This is a valid thought since it can and has been done before, but what if there is something deeper going on in this situation? But before I go deeper than that, I also wanted to state that you said the Tree Of Harmony set her free? Well, I can see why you think that and it is a pretty good theory, but there are multiple problems and variables that contradict that theory as well. For example, much later in the series when the school of friendship is made and the group of misfit "elements" meets the tree of harmony, it specifically states that "my power grows stronger over time" and that it "now has the ability to do this". Now this made me wonder: If the tree of harmony wasn't that powerful before, how could it possibly be powerful enough to release the banishment of a pony on its own, especially since the elements weren't directly powering the tree since Celestia and Luna took them all those years ago?? It just seems pretty farfetched to me and honestly hard to believe. However, I do think it had some influence. Now to the whole "not moving stars" thing, Celestia may have simply chose not to! From what I heard, the stars DO move on their own (quoted from the hippogryphs voyage) and that can be linked to physics like our world! However, this doesn't mean we can just count Celestia out too! In fact, the stars may be easier for Celestia to move with them actually being as small as depicted in the show like how most cartoonists use those physics! Now going on to my actual theory.
I think Celestia DID bring Nightmare Moon back, but not on purpose. I believe, just like discords banishment, there is a set amount of years that banishment can be upheld before it is interrupted. I believe with Celestia's long line of experience with the Elements, she knew that was true! She would still have reason to grieve over the loss of her sister for a thousand years but even then, when Luna comes back, Celestia is not surprised by the fact that her sister is no longer Nightmare Moon! This means that Celestia definitely had planning behind this and, as you said, it was indeed "safe" or at least a high chance of success! I think the key to releasing Luna does fall on the elements, though. I think it relies on triggers because, when discord escaped, Celestia said: "I believe that, since the elements are now tied to you, the banishment spell I once put on him is no longer in effect." But, wait... If they are connected to the elements right at the start, why is discord escaping just then? That's where my trigger theory comes in. I think that Twilight meeting her friends at that exact moment in time, as depicted and brought on by Celestia, produced a trigger that allowed Lunas escape on the 1000th year. Of course, this could be completely wrong and the stars were just moving slowly over time but that would contradict what the creator said and discords release from his banishment!
So from a set perspective on the three key moments that I believe caused a chained reaction letting luna escape, you have to look further into the power of the elements themselves. So, Celestia's Banishment has a time limit, the banishment is released upon triggering, but the 3rd key is the elements of harmony themselves. Being forged from the Tree Of Harmony, almost like a super battery, saved Equestria on its own a thousand times and was "programmed" by the Pillars to represent certain elements! This further proves my trigger theory that them coming together created a link between them and the Elements Of Harmony and thus creating a chain reaction. This was also more related to Celestia's and Luna's conflict themselves as they did not represent the Elements Of Harmony on their own over time! This prompted the Tree Of Harmony to seek a new magic source for the elements which, when it did, caused an extreme burst of power (shown at the end of the 2nd show season 1 when they embraced their elements), but that doesn't mean their link started there! Many chain reactions are caused accidentally throughout the series such as Rainbow Dashes rainboom causes them to find their special talents and link them in the long term! But the elements didn't link to them until they found each other! I think it was similar to Luna's release but the beginning starting with Luna's banishment. Just like Discord release was a shred of chaos after they linked together.
In conclusion, I think there are 3 very key aspects in forcibly releasing a pony from banishment: 1) A background behind the banishment. 2) An immense amount of power (specifically from the elements.) 3) The Mane 6's friendship. However, we do come to an impasse at some point. This is because when Twilight travels back in time, Nightmare moon was able to come back without their friendship! This doesn't mean that she came back on the 1000th year without a trigger, though. I think Nightmare Moons escape failed at first since when they travel back in time, Nightmare Moon says: " My sister has been imprisoned in the moon for years!" Now, why do you guys think that came to pass? Well, nightmare moon didn't transform back so no friendship magic was involved most likely. In the best-case scenario, like what Twilight did to bring the Pillars back to Equestria and to banish the Pony Of Shadows, powerful magic was used to bring her back! This most likely means Celestia was involved. After Twilight failed to meet her friends, Celestia was left to deal with things on her own which probably took longer than what came to pass back when Nightmare moon came back! This is because when they travel back in time, Nightmare Moon lives in the Castle Of The Two Sisters instead of in Canterlot with a whole new Castle! This most likely represents a more recent defeat of Celestia, especially since none of the other mane 6 are under her command which I believe she would recognize at the other elements which I believe she would still discover on her own!
So Nightmare Moon does eventually escape but in terms of my theory, it was most likely Celestia (with the help of powerful magic) or a trigger that went off that was set like an alarm clock for 1000 years! This would explain so much about Celestia's behavior on that day telling Twilight, "You simply must stop reading those dusty old books!" Even though it is what Twilight has always taken pride in and expected Celestia to do the same! So what was different for that day? Even Twilight didn't know! I think Celestia did, though, having that contribute to her decision to send Twilight away. I rest my case. (Of course I can always be wrong but we'll leave that up to the avid readers. :))
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Wow
0 likesWow very long I can't read it all
0 likesDear G O D this is so long-and you end like every other sentence with an exclamation mark i stg
1 likehow long did that take?!?!
1 likeWow, you must have a lot of dedication to this series, I admire that. Also after reading through all of it I understand your points and agree with you.
0 likesHow did je not see this yet ._.
0 likesholy mother of pies- so lonnggggggg
0 likestwilight never met celestia because she didn’t pass the test
0 likesUnderrated 👌
0 likesI wonder if it was starlight cause she had powerful magic and she was kinda evil but then again why would starlight wanna free nightmare moon
0 likesluna planed her own escape! she controls the moon and stars! :( !
0 likesI mean...
1 likeThe sun IS a star....
Think I know if she controls the Sun and the sun's a star doesn't that mean she can control both and celestia's just keeping a secret from Twilight and everybody else do what theory this is actually huge
0 likesDear sawtooth, I am a good friend of Luna, she often visits my galaxy home and is a friend to the wolves who live there. I have recently heard about her bansishment and her reform, and I can explain it. When the spell wears of, it sends a sort of signal if you will, to the stars around it telling them to release her, why not the spell itself? It’s too weak. Remember it just worn off so it’s natural that it would sent a sort of s.o.s to the stars. It couldn’t use celestia because she isn’t the one wielding the Elements so in the gap between twilight making friends and her defeat the stars do their bit. I hope that explains it,
5 likesGalactia blast.
Ps: don’t click read more!
Oh, you clicked it? What did I tell you? Like if your a galaxy wolf too 😉
Sun=Star
0 likesYes, this is my logic. A big star is a sun.
;) nope! the answer IS CELESTIA. Because when she was gone, she raised the moon AND sun. while, she raised the stars because the sun is a star. and also when the moon comes up, we see stars. so It was her who set her sister free. u can look up on google if u want ;)
0 likesUmm… twilight raised and moved the stars in season 9 with Celestia and Lunas power…
0 likesI feel like a changeling was transforming into Luna because this changeling has known Luna since the day it was born because for a long time ago this changeling has heard a lot of the stories of princess Luna turns into nightmare moon so that’s what I think
0 likesYeah I heard that Lauren confirmed that celestia let her sister out on purpose.....CELESTIA IS THE REAL VILLAIN!
4 likesRemember the luna said she controlled moon and stars
0 likesstarlight is part of twilight's family so they all have star cutie marks so let me tell you the story about starlight starlight is twilight's sister she did something unforgivable so her pearants put a memory spell on twilight so she could forget starlight.
0 likesIn my little pony magic princess games, descripiton of characters princess celestia is "princess celestia is the ruler of equestria. Responsible for raising the sun, moon and the stars"😌
0 likesI think it can be Luna's dad as Luna is the princess of moon her dad must be star but before Luna birth her dad must be control of moon and star's
0 likesI think I have the reason to do this you know the sun is a star so she can probably control the stars
0 likesIf you were to look through the episode do you would see Princess Luna spare controls the moon correct so yeah go she is so controlling
0 likesYou see it wasnt celestia or the tree it was the oldest of the three sisters queen ingrid the snow queen look her up on the internet
0 likesI think I know who controls the stars ,star swirl.it’s in his name
0 likesWhere did queen novo actually get the pearl that helped her kingdom change species so they could hide from the storm king I’m so confused and I hope you can help me understand
4 likesI don’t know what I’m coming for I want to be in the series you can call me a nightlight I love your videos❤
0 likestechnically the sun is a star that's just closer.
0 likesIt must be rarity she was the first one to know that celestial was gone she must have been mad at her for not letting her stay at canterlot high but let her friend twillinght stay Rarity must have knew that ' nightmare moon appears celestia disappears ' this makes rarity the culprit but from who did she learn to control the stars ?…? ……. Star swirl Maybe because when we saw the flash back. We had enough info to blame starswirl to teach rarity to control the stars what do you think ? Do u agree with me
0 likesShort do I think celestia and Luna had a long lost father control the stars
0 likes"That would make celestia a lair"
5 likesBoi, she is a lair.
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0 likesIn Celestias hair there are some stars
0 likesI could be wrong but i just got this feeling🤫🤔
The Sun is also a star, so mabye it WAS Celestia! (Or i think thats how u spell it).
0 likesI think that maybe celestial could see the future or the tree of hormany but i think it's celestial because she does everything comly as if see knows what will happen
0 likesWell celestia controls the sun and stars yes and moon but did we ever see lunas potential we only saw he raise the moon but remember when Luna and celestia changed marks now celestia reacted like she has never raised the moon or did any of lunas tasks well who ever said she was the one raising the moon all those years and it was Luna well yes she was vanished to the moon but when chrysalis was turned to stone her throne pieces worked fine on the castle so her magic could still work so what if nightmare got the practice and that’s why Luna was so existed after being reformed
0 likesCelestia:Sun
8 likesLuna:Moon
Cadance:Crystals
Twilight: Friendship
Flurryheart: Stars???
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Nah. Flurry Heart is the Princess of Merchandise.
6 likesAlso, Cadance is the Princess of Love, not Crystals.
I feel flurryheart is a representation of..
0 likesCombined
Love and magic
Not a necromancer nothing close
@Kawaiitron I laughed so hard
1 likeSockTime Gacha flurryheart was born after nightmare moons escape. I think flurryheart would be family.
0 likesMust be the character I’m gonna make
0 likesThe girl name is Luna when she was staying there for 100 years in the moon
0 likesMaybe nightmare moon made herself escape because Luna controls the moon
0 likes"Who controls the stars?" isn't the sun a star? ;)
0 likesmaybe luna cause it might of took her a thousand years to move the stars to freedome cause if luna controls the moon and celestia controles the sun that must mean that luna was moving the stars to freedome.
0 likesIt make sense for Celestia to free luna bc not only she wants her sister back and she knew the elements of harmony is fitting for the mane 6 maybe celestia wanted to test the mane 6 friendship
0 likesHi I have a suggestion about who could have controlled those stars maybe it was some magical creature or it’s more about the spell so here’s how I think it might’ve went with the spell maybe a spell word last for 100 years because we know that discord was trapped there for 100 years I think and a bunch of other villains so I think it’s at the time about whoever was stuck in prison for only a certain amount of time before they can be released in maybe their own saying that what they do will represent and three of them that could be worth when the spell was off those star is moved to show nightmare moon was returning so yeah that’s my theory and yeah bye
0 likesThe sun is had Star Power so it Could be Celestia
0 likesEvery Brony Notion videos is beyond science
4 likesIf Celestia saw the signs of night mear moon then Celestia had to of told twilight
0 likesApparently I know Science ...
0 likesSo...
The Sun is a Star itself and Celestia maybe can control the Stars :)
BECAUSE THE SUN IS A STAR ASK GOOGLE
Stars?.. when twilight became princess a huge firework of something came up but resembled a star to me
0 likesCan you make a vid on were rain comes from? Like we see the Pegasi “create” rain by jumping on a storm cloud but how does the rain get there in the first place. We are told that the everfree forest is the only place with natural weather. We have seen the weather factory make clouds and rainbows ( but I can’t remember if they make rain) and without rain shouldn’t there be a drought. In one of starlights time lines we see a deserted and dry equestria meaning without pony’s somehow water goes away wich begs the question if they make water falls and stuff and if Pegasi make the weather how are they supposed to make rain/water? Without a horn how do they make it ? Is there a special kind of Pegasi? And if that were true how come they didn’t fix the hypogrif problem sooner? They would have to keep in touch to keep the ocean well the ocean lol. Idek what I’m talking about at this point lol.
0 likesIf the mane five failed and Luna took over. Celestia: 😖 I’m joining the dark side.
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There are SIX of them, not five.
0 likesI think Celestia just wanted to reform her sister
0 likesWell the princess of stars scared be their mom their dad could even be a sister we don’t know about
0 likesWhat if Celestia can't control the stars maybe Luna set herself free but the true question is where did Celestia gone missing like it's only been a few seconds since Nightmare Moon came so where did she run off to? This was always in my brain for quite awhile so can you find out this?
0 likesWhere was Princess Celestia after when Nightmare Moon returned?
0 likes4:45 "How much of a roll did celestia play"
4 likesOh, you know, it was a-BUN-dant.
If you see very carefully Twilight Sparkle has a star cutie mark I was thinking I think it was Twilight Sparkle release Nightmare Moon but if toilet Sparkle did it just because of her cutie mark what I think I think it's a little bit true I've been looking at the Cutie Mark 4 hours and I've been observing all of the power it's just because of the cutest part is color pinkish purplish and it kind of makes sense and I'll look it emerges actually like a star the other one is like just like Rainbow – just a cloud with a rainbow and Rarity is versus a gemstones and Pinkie Pie are balloons and all the pony cutie mark that I know that has a star is Twilight Sparkle don't think it was Twilight Sparkle toys for girl riding nude going to come out he might be someone someone controls the star someone has been trapped in star no way is going to be some Celestia because she's nice and everything I think 100% think it might be grow guard or it might be the most amazing sorcerer Star Swirl you know it might be very very obvious because grow guard is Liv and trapped with the Stars like it's really obvious but the one thing about Star Swirl is the first name is actually a star and then it goes swirl it didn't make any sense. But I have a 100% it's actually starts world or grow guard
0 likesI think is twilight who did it. She controls the stars!!
0 likesThink about this it said that they control the sun MOON and stars twilight herself
0 likesbut if celestia had visions about what will happen in the future then he should knew the mane 6 would deafeat cozy t rek and chrysalis
0 likesLast time I was this early, men still had fins.
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Does that mean you existed when men still had fins?
3 likes@Ren Tran It's-It's a joke, buddy...
3 likesI think that Princess Celestia released Nightmare Moon to test Twilight Sparkle
0 likesWell technically. Princesses Celestia controls ONLY the sun and moon in the beggening THEN Princesses Luna controlled the moon. But who controlled the stars? STARSWIRLS! It has it in his name so he probably controls it?
0 likesOf course celestia can raise the moon, remeber that part that nightmare moon vanished and locked up in the moon?, That was that time celestia needs to do lunas duty.
0 likesHi am this is just my theory I'm kind of answering your questions I have 3 options for you number one twilight sparkle like she kind of has a like a star on her being and star does not mean friendship so maybe it means she can secretly control the stars without knowing too a could be Luna but Luna couldn't free herself because she controls the night and the final third one could be so last year guys she does control the sun and the sun is technically a star a big ball of fire technically she could control the dog out even knowing it also she took in Luna's power by raising the sun and moon when Luna was entrapped in the moon so technically she would have more power to oh yeah whatI said, Luna on the thing where they said she could control the sun, I don't think I said, do the right, but anyways, yes, that's my 3 answers for you
0 likesMaybe I did, maybe I didn’t!
12 likesI guess you’ll never know :)
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hi
0 likesDoesn't celestia have a nephew? Doesn't his cutie mark resemble a star? Isn't he also a unicorn? Maybe the parent that connects him to celestia is in control of the stars. If celestia and luna were once unicorns maybe they had more siblings.
0 likesI mean either it was a 1000 year spell or celestia just wanted her sister back but knew she couldn’t reforme her so litterly sent 6 random ponies to save the day- or celestia didn’t do anything and star swirl did or as no 1 it was a 1000 year spell ;-;
0 likesDid you know there is a Queen named Queen Pastelle
0 likesBut technically the Sun is a Star….
0 likesI think starlight she WAS evil before the main 6 took her too the light
0 likesStarswirle can control the stars because his name has the word STAR in it. (Sawtooth YOU are my idle. Your senserly Zuzanna krasny.
1 likeI think always luna controls the stars before she was trapped in the moom I think that who controls the moon also controls the stars so I think that celestia controls the stars
0 likesOh my god! You know how there was 4 stars to nightmare moons escape....There was also 4 stars on twilights cutely mark! Forget the pink star I just mean the 4 stars around the pink star
0 likesEdit: wait nvm XD
FIRST!!!!!!! Hi
16 likesAnd also 1:39 I mean she always did that, all the returns of vilans until the end of season 3 were orchestrated by her so twilight would be ready to become a princess, I mean in season 3 premiere celestia even says that this was her test, and in the ending of the episode she says to Luna that twilight has now only one more test which is the season 3 finale, she send the book on purpose so all of it could happened, thats why she loosed her fight with crystalis and never helps the mane six.
Dude the sun is technically a star so so last year did set a nightmare moon three technically
0 likesIt think Celestia controls the stars and the moon because stars are sun's billions of miles away but that would mean Celestia is very powerful that she can control the stars and sun and it spreads miles away so that means that she has very big power so it makes it a little different
0 likesstar swirl might have released nightmare moon
0 likesMaybe Twilight sparkle ones the stars because look closely at her ciute Mark it is a big star and has got smaller ones around the biggest star it makes sense do you think
1 likeI may be late, but did Luna’s father bail out Nightmare Moon? Maybe it her dad did something like that in the past, and wanted to bail Luna. I also think that since Luna’s dad has magic, he added the plan for her to escape in the book. For Daybreaker, maybe it was her mom who enabled her. Maybe in the dream, her Mom showed her if she was ever going to become jealous.
3 likesLuna got herself out of the Moon I mean think the moon and the stars are basically the same thing connected to the same thing
0 likeswhat if shining armor released nightmare moon to get twilight for friends? Besides u said he might be an alicorn, and he has multiple stars on his cutie mark like twilight
0 likesCelestia - Sun! Luna - Moon! Star Swirl - Stas!
0 likesCelestial,Luna And cadence but twilight sparkles name has to do with her cutie mark But Celestial, Luna and cadence have nothing to do with their cutie mark. Define the word twilight it possibly could be the stars and twilight sparkle controlled the stars and that was a hidden talent and she wanted to bring Luna back to remake a friendship
0 likesJust a theory: Just because Nightmare moon is in the Moon doesn’t stop ponies from having nightmares! We all know how powerful starlight glimmer is so it wouldn’t be a surprise if Nightmare moon found a way into a powerful ponies dream. She could have manipulated Starlight so she could begin learning how to control stars! Her cutie mark never told us anything about her how about it controls the stars? (Or at least some) I think starlight glimmer did it and the tree of harmony did have a part to play. I think the tree sensed Starlight and told Celestia about it. Then Celestia made sure it happened and put it in books for ponies to read.
18 likesJust mah little theory
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1 like@4 player split screen For cod2024 I am a female brony
0 likesHalf of my brain thinks it's twilight and half of my brain thinks it's star swirl idk why.
0 likesWait I think it actually luna because when mlp tells us the story of why luna turned into nightmare moon it said: "Celestia was greatly appreciated by the ponys in equestria for bringing the sun to rise every day but luna was not greatly appereciated by the ponys of equestria for raising the moon and the STARS" See ? The text said luna can raise the moon and the stars!
all the alicorns cutemark relate to what thay control well twilight cute mark look like magic or starts . her cute mark relate back to the tree if you look at the tree the big star is in the midel and the other stars are on the outsied like her cutemark .
0 likesMy theory is twilight's mother, think again she can't have this cutie mark without meaning. Also the same with the father
0 likesI’m sure she did because she’s her sister and im sure she missed Luna so she released her from the moon because she banned her to the moon. Why she can’t release her from the moon?
0 likesYAAY NWW VID
8 likesWell the stars went in pattern I bet that you did not notice because you were only focused on who bailed her out so here are my theories. well first my theory was that twilight sparkle could bailed her out because like any unicorn she would want to see night mare moon in person but that got debunked. So then I searched one sawtooth wave videos that about did celestia bailed night mare moon and what lauren faust said in twitter was amazing ( sorry if I spelled it wrong) said this "Watch the episode again ------ the stars align in perfect pattern and who controls the sun moon and stars" sawtooth replied that celestia bailed her out but that is debunked. Then she said "who controls the stars" And I think I know who has the power to control the equastria and it is star swirl abearded now here is my theory. in season 4 apple jack said this about the pony of shadow "Some his magic escaped" now does that mean also some of star swirls magic escaped and tried stopping the pony of shadows magic to escape then by accident it could have bailed night mare moon so then tree took action of it to bring the main six to reform her. oh and stars aligned in a way that looked like star swirls cutie mark.
0 likesI think the stars nightmare moons army so maybe the stars released their leader nightmare moon now I think that makes sense
0 likesMaybe we do have a sister of the stars because in ticket master rarity mentioned celesta’s royal niece so either Luna had a child or a different sister maybe one of the stars did which could mean cadence did not be the first allicorn to give birth
0 likesBut I really don’t think so
I think I know who controls the stars celestia has a cutie mark of the sun Luna has moon and twilight has a star maby without knowing she realised nightmare moon I think
0 likesSoooooo early yeah
4 likesI love these theory videos
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the sun is a star. her name celestia references celestial bodies.
0 likescan you put in the link where I can find and watch season 9 please?
1 likeCelestia control the stars because the sun is a star
0 likesYeah, the sun is a star so could it be Celestia who set Nightmare Moon free?? :\
0 likesCelestia sus!!
Ok so isn't doing a council sure that's the end and I dreamland so that means I left you can control the song and something else and the song is a medium-sized star so that means she could control the stars but just like Lauren valves and controls the song the one the stars went I left in Spanish that she's controlling the sun the moon and stars because of stars is a son actually more like a fun so so you're her back because not because number one 120 want to make sense so it's nice and warm and lots and let down all the main six me to gather friendship number 2 of course you'll miss her sister because it's her sister childhood so does she have to release her because you shouldn't like seem like they're more than 1000 Years died so because I will of course be more than unicorns
4 likesIt's kinda impossible for this to be it but what about star swirl?
0 likesthe tree used twilight it explains her cutie mark and
0 likeswhy she was worried about it
grogar is still my favorite :/
0 likesTbh, this is didn't know when I watched it but my theory is that it was twilights test for friendship.
0 likesBecause of coronavirus
3 likesWell twilight does have a star cutie mark or is it a tree of harmony I have no idea
0 likesPrinsses Luna controls the stars ✨
0 likesI Agree with the grogar theory
0 likesWait, the preson who controls the stars might be Celestia and Luna's mom Queen Galaxy!
0 likesPossible
3 likesThe sun is a dying star basically
0 likesLol Celestia trolling is savage
0 likesIs starsworker controlling the star
0 likesI think it was sunset she does not do the sun or moon and she can move the stars if she wants I think it was like a revenge thing
0 likesHey will you pin me please I’m a fan
8 likesCongratulations! You nearly have 400k!
0 likesI think twilight did it but she didn’t know that she did it
0 likesFlurry heart controlled the stars
1 likeMaybe Star Swirl control the stars?
0 likesEARLYY!!
7 likesAfter I watched this video I am thinking it makes much more sense
0 likesNightmare moon controls the stars
1 likeMaybe celestia knew that twilight is so special cause twilight cutie mark and twilight harmony jem thingy looks the same and celestia know that its a sign to make nightmare moon back what she was lunar
0 likesOr maybe its twilight look at her cutie mark🤣
Celestial: dumbledor
0 likesLuna: Pr Lupin
Twilight sparkle: Harry Potter
HOW DID I ONLY JUST GET THIS NOTIFICATION THIS WAS LIKE AGES AGO WHAT
3 likesI think luna set her self free i mean luna controlls the moon and the Stars are Seen only at night
0 likesWhat if there's a Prince Blueblood The Princesses nephew wouldn't that mean there's a third sister or a brother?
0 likesI think it was the stars cuz when I watched it again and saw nightmare moon in the knight statue when twilight was walking by it
0 likesthis is the 8th time i seen this vid and i understand what happened so if the 2 alicorns which is the Sun and moon then what if there really is a princess of stars? well MLP never spoke of it and we fans never seen it . that “Pony” can be like the young 6 different species and that “Pony” raises the stars befor the moon get raced and after the sun is here? i really hope u can reply about what do you think of this theory?
0 likesI’m not first, I’m not last, and this comment is overused anyways
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Yes, indeed it is.
9 likesI also wonder why everyone wants to be first... Like as if they would've won an award or something if they were the first to comment. I really don't get it.
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1 likeI think starlight is the who freed nightmare moon (luna)
0 likeswanna know what starts are?
0 likesSuns
celestia just wanted to meme on us
I think starlight had control the stars
0 likesI think starlight had control the stars
0 likesHello I don’t know what to say 🙃
3 likesI think it is Pony of Shadows
0 likesAm i silly?
Isn't a whole lot of ponies or a lot of people have been strange about that question i know what question it is all the empires had been controlling the sun and the moon the moon had been controlling the stars are being in the 1 billion even the stars
1 likeI think that Twilight moves the stars, because of her cutie mark
0 likesDoesn’t twilight control the stars it’s on her cutie mark?
0 likesOh me gerd, Am I actually first!?! No views, no likes/dislikes (besides mine), and no comments. I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE FIRST!!!
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꧁ Moonlight Skies ꧂ no, you aren’t first.
0 likesJessica The Iceberg Just let meh have this :P
0 likes꧁ Moonlight Skies ꧂ ok then...
0 likesmaybe it was celestia or luna's mother or father?
0 likescelestia controls the sun but the sun is a massive star so
0 likesCelestia controls the moon and the stars
0 likesThe sun is a star and the sun is Celestia controlling the sun and moon so possibly the stars 🌟 ✨ 🎶 😎 😉 😄 🌟 ✨ 🎶 😎 😉
0 likesFIRST?!
5 likesWhat is Celestia took the Stars to The elements of Harmony I mean and before into all those Stars until May stars and returned her sister back to normal just so they can learn about and listen just to get you know
0 likesI think it may be star swirl👀
0 likesCelestia is the sun the sun is a star ,the moon has stars around it and if you put that together it might make the stars ,twilight has a cutie mark of a star magic and those star where magic it’ll make perfect sense Twilight sparkle my ruler the stars maybe the tree?
0 likesi think star swirl is behind it as its his name and he also has experience with portals . Now i know he never believed in friendship but may be celestia and star swirl did it all together after all they knew each other since a thousand years. if u think this theory might be true do like
0 likesFirst!! I think.
5 likesI would still think Cel did it. She worded it misleadingly because if ponies knew she LITTERALY LET A DANGEROUS PONY OUT it wouldn't be good.
0 likesMaybe nightmare moon was planning to
1 likeIf you don't want so many problems from a princess? How about a Mary Sue?
0 likesThe person who controls sister Princess Twilight sparkle's is on her cutie mark she has stars and then the sparkles look worksman smaller stores
0 likesI’m first
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Stream Kid Haley yep
0 likes0:55 Wait, Hogwarts didn't have toilets back then? And... relieving urself wherever they stood...
0 likesthe fuq?
Sawtooth waves : who the heck controls the stars
0 likesMe: ?
Mine is weird but I think the tree of harmony gave Celestia a vision of her return in her words "I saw the sign's"so she hade twilight come and new she was the one and the tree of harmony new what to do bc it's wise.
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I ment the tree of harmony and Celestia when I said she new sorry.
0 likesIn a book it was celestia
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You're 2nd, nice
2 likes『VaL』 oh yay thanks
1 likeIt was twilight, she did it
0 likesis lauren tricking us?
0 likesHow about the matrix how they have the powers everything has been change spin the wheel to the two of the sisters have ruling crystal empire for a very long time that means the crystal empire has been in equestrian impression that means from ruling the world of equestria new abilities to change to another power
1 likeSince wait I am asking about a different video so since Twilight actually I realized that she had killed the tree before she got her castle 🏰 she said that the tree and the elements of harmony will never bee broken so she lied can you make a video about it
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Nope it was me
1 likeYou're 4th, sorry-
1 likemy theory but idk the person controlling the stars is the maker of the book how? Well how would the book know the stars would aim her escape if it never happened in the past so someone could've made an escape plan and before luna was imprisoned luna gave someone 500+ years to live so one the person can break her free.
0 likesmaybe there is a secret star alicorn that Celestia and luna have no idea about or a person that controls the treee
0 likesI think nightmare moon Really hates her sister because she really does
1 likeI heard that luna also controls the stars
0 likesLuna does the star's but does it first
0 likesI have a question. If Luna is the only one who can raise the moon, and Celestia the sun. This bring the question how did Celestia raise the moon? We have seen that twilight needed a magic artefact, cause her magic wasn't strong enough. This bring be also the question, how is Twilight raising both sun and moon now she rules Equestria? Here is my theory, Celestia raise the sun in front of the moon, cause the moon was in the same place Luna left it when she became Nightmare moon. This means that Celestia never rules the night, in facto Lunas job was there, the moon never left the spotlight.
0 likesWho Controls the Sun, Moon AND Stars
0 likesThe Sun IS a Star itself
The True Culprit behind Nightmare Moon's escape is……None other then ………Princess Celestia !!
When she said
"I saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return."
Perhaps she saw herself letting her go cause she ALSO for saw Twilight and her friends reform Luna.
Which means when she Scolded Discord for his "Misjudgement"
SHE didn't for see those Villians return at that point in time they where supposed to be free later then they where in the show
Discord prematurely freed those Villains
STAR SWIRL! HE MESSAGED THE TREE WITH HIS MAGIC AND CONTROLED THE STARS! sorry caps
0 likesIf I'm right the stars are burning balls of gass far away and if I'm correct the sun is also one
0 likesMaybe nightmaremoon do the stars and the moon
0 likesDid you see that element that look like a star maybe that is what controls the stars stars
0 likesI thought Luna control the stars🌟⭐💫🌜👸
0 likesWhat if starswirl the bearded controlled the stars
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars
0 likesso I think twilight controls the stars because it go's with Luna moon celesta sun twilight sparkle stars see what i mean? but that wouldn't make since of she wasen't a alicorn back in season one plus she's not the type to do that, so my only guess is star swirl because he probably did it by accident but what if nightmare moon let herself out, maybe she was waiting this long just for the perfect time?
0 likesWho raises the stars? Princes celesta does.
0 likesmaybe someone with star in their name did it
0 likeslike STARlight
0:46 OH GOD PLEASE NO IT FITS TO WELL
0 likesThis is rough to say but what if a villan in the stars controled the stars yep you hear ALIENS!!!!
0 likesWhat if celestia bailed out nightmare moon to get the Mane Six connected to the elements to get them ready for what was to come....
0 likesI think celestia put a timer and when the timer end 🔚 nightmare moon realised
0 likesor when she put Luna into the Moon it might of meant temporally like only 1,000 years
0 likesbecause it is her sister and you probably wouldn't send you sister to the moon temporally even if they're mean
I mean I have sisters and I wouldn't banish them to the moon or like jail in Earth since that makes more sencse then the moon
I think the TREE and celestia, Because celastia USED to control the tree, maybe she wanted one last time using the tree's magic? That is my theory! PS Love ur vids!
0 likescelestia's mother princess galexia controls the stars
0 likesMy theory is twillight who freed nightmare moon because twillight has stars in her cutie mark so she controls the stars because shes"twillight sparkle''
0 likesmaybe celestia freed her because she felt like she really mised her
0 likesLuna because she’s the queen of the moon I mean it Hass to be her don’t you think
0 likesI think its star swirls since um.. idk but it kinda make sense for stars dont you think?
0 likesis logic to celestia control stars. THE SUN IS A STAR
0 likesI think I know it may seem dum, but~~
0 likesThere were only 2 known pricesses celestia and Luna Witch are kinda like queens what im saying is the 2 princesses or maybe even queens raise the sun n moon tho in the mlp movie we meet queen novo, the pricesses all have duties what about queen novo, and queen novo has something the other hippogriffs don't a wobbly glowstick thing on her head like a horn, could that be a source of power? Maybe novo realised her ?
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0 likesNotion changed his intro because we used to include friendssszzzzzzz
😂😂
Starlight Glimmer corntrols the stars! I think...
0 likesIdk(meaning I don’t know in short form)
0 likesIdk why the sun god banished her sister to the moon
The sun is a star so it is still possible
0 likesi FEEL LIKE IT WAS TWILIGHT- since she had sparks could twilight release nightmare?? didnt notice it ??
0 likesWHY DID CELESTIA FREED NIGHT MARE MOON
0 likesThe sun is a star so celestia controls it
0 likesYes,does that mean celestia relased luna?
0 likesno luna did it it just took soooooo long because her magic is week
0 likesBut she does make a point
0 likesWhat if.. Celestia did that to get twilight to make friends and make them use tbe elements
0 likesMoon means night sun means day is control by Celestia night is control by Luna or nightmare moon stars can be seen only in the night means only Luna can do that just trashed your theory filled with holes
1 likeYou saw that a explosion happened when luna came back when the moon explosion happened she came back
0 likesmake a video if you ever find out if discord moved the stars leading to the escape of nightmare moon/princess luna
0 likesStar princess might be gusty the great or starlight glimmer bcoz they both have stars in their cutie marks
0 likesIt’s still Groger to me that theory awesome
0 likesNightmare Moon was free by stars world the beer deck
0 likesi think twillght would control the star caues as her name says twillight sparkle star appear after twillight in the human world and sparkle means sparkly star so that s my theory
0 likesthe tree of Harmony spirit control the star
0 likesActually luna is on control for the 🌟
0 likesI know we’re not talking about Bendy but maybe Sammy has released the ink demon because you know the ink demon is Sammy‘s boss
0 likesThe animators, blame the animators
0 likeswait isnt the sun is a star-
0 likesand celestia controls suns so does that means that celestia is controlling the stars
(moon is a rock from earth qwq)well thats what i heard ;-;
How about star hunter he also has a constellation cutie mark which is very similar.
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars
0 likesjust a theory but twilight sparkle could have done it I mean think about it
0 likeswith her expeirence from the school she could have
Sawtooth:the stars were animated but by who
0 likesMe:the animators
mabye it was just a consiadince, 1000 years later mabye the elements can let people out of the moon the same way other animals and dicord always get off stone?
0 likesWhy is Starswirls name Starswirl? Maybe he controls the stars.
0 likesI got one if you look closely at twilight (at the last summer sun celebration) look Celestia and Luna's horn they are not using magic and twilight is.Maybe she got a bit.Cary a way because.I mean look at her at the first episode 😂 and her cutie mark is stars and Celestia's is a sun Luna's is a moon think about it-_-.
0 likesWait a sun is a star so it might be celestia
0 likesI see the star and moving we all know but...if someone control it is mean is the harmony....?
0 likes4:27 Well, the sun is a star so . . .
0 likesStarlight glimmer controls the star
1 likeI think discord moved the stars cuz he is the god of chaos
0 likesI think it's twilight because she had a
0 likesStar on her city mark#its a family member of luna and selestia
And twilight
Stars can be planets to whoever controls planets is the one who made the Stars do that if they were planets maybe it's coming out in another season who cares right now we have full seasons so all we can do is wait
0 likesthe stars go to the moon because celestia love her sister
0 likesI think ca;estia had a vision befor nightmair moon and her sister would refuse to bring down the moon and in 1000 years there would be 6 ponys that defets nightmair moon so when luna refused to bring down the mooon celestia cast a spell that lasted 1000 years
0 likesthe star pony did it
0 likesI don’t know why but I think that star swirl controls the stars I mean it’s in this name
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars or night mare moon
0 likesDo you actually realize that on the Summer sun celebration at Twilight Sparkle set and then look at the Moon you see those four stars are starting to moving and trying to do something that you said from the other video can you make another video the One like this like this
0 likeswhat if lonor tried to free her self she mit control the stars sins she controls the moon
0 likesPrincess twilight have 4 star in her cutie mark so maybe princess twilight controls the star
0 likesI think luna she is nightmare moon at a long time right
1 likeIt’s probably diamond tiara
0 likesdid you know that the sun IS A STAR
0 likesI think twilight sparkle did it
0 likesBut in all times Luna is the moon The stars
0 likesI think Twilight did it because she has a cutie monster just and maybe she’s a princess that race to stars
0 likesI think star did it because he has i horn and sometimes that the satrs will move
0 likesStar for the bearded free Nightmare Moon
0 likesTwilight control the Stars I mean just look at her cutie mark and she's an alicorn let me explain you're talking about who controls the Stars well one Chas Seven Stars on her cutie mark 2 she's an alicorn 3 she likes reading books 4 why did she control the stars because you wanted to see nightmare moon or something
0 likescelestia was like: make sister normal random frens
1 likeIT WAS CELESTIA AND GROGAR WHO DID IT (maybe it was a bet )
0 likesCelestia did not release night mare moon so who is?
0 likesBut Cilestia is princess of sun so she controls the stars
0 likesTrollestia, princess of hypocrisy
0 likesI think a misterius alicorn control the stars
0 likesThe sun is a star science
1 likeWhat if flurry hart controls the stars 👑
0 likesthere was a plan that discord was one of a million someting dracoses dont know why it was removed it woud have been cool does discord have any relatives beacause remember of celestia and luna tey we were told that they were born alicorn but well changed bad writing.
0 likesI think twilight moved the stars cuz her mark are stars.
0 likesHi heard that Luna rises the moon AND STARS but when Luna became nightmare moon and Celestia took over Luna duty’s so Celestia was controlling SUN MOON AND STAR
0 likesThe lost princess of the stars????
0 likesI think celestia controls the sun
0 likesSun is a Star remember? :)
Wait I just saw the original comment, no hate comment pls :')
great video 💖
0 likesi think the spell just wore off
0 likesyeah hi celestia does not control the stars mlp only said that she had taken over raising the moon not the stars
0 likesi think it's star swirl because the word star
0 likesWatch all the videos again Calestia’s job is raising the sun and Luna’s job is to raise the moon there cutie marks also mach there jobs and Twilight’s job is to control the stars her cutie mark also has stars
0 likesLuna probably moo the Stars cos she is the princess of the night afterall
0 likesWut about nightmare moon herself she controls the night soo she finally figured out to control the stars maybe?
0 likesfirst thing why whould the spirit of harmony free nightmare moon and then lets come onto your qustion or lauren fausts who controlls the stars, I really think that princess twilight does like seriosly even look at her cutie mark...
1 likeI think daybreaker set nichtmare moon free
0 likesPrincess Luna controls the Stars or Nightmare Moon
0 likesI think that it was starlight
0 likesmaybe one of the ponies with a star cutie mark(star cutie mark= star related destiny?)
0 likesmaybe... SHE DID IT TO ON PURPOSE TO MAKE TWILIGHT A PRINCESS?! TO GET HER SISTER BACK?! who knows...
0 likesThe princess of the stars
0 likesI think it was the person that stole grogars bell
0 likesBut she said she saw The return of night mare moon its pointless
0 likesTrollestia does have some appearance
0 likesMeh :p
0 likesI’ll tell mah theory
If u look back in that episode, Twi sent a scroll to Celestia saying that nightmare moon is gonna come back
And u know what happened next right? Celestia told Twi to go to ponyville,
And turns out that Twi defeated Nightmare Moon with her friends, what a coincidence…….Like Celestia knew it was going to happen obviously!
When Twilight turned into an alicorn by Celestia….She revealed that she could technically see the future
Some of u might see it as “No she watched over Twilight” well ofc she did, do u think she’s a stalker?
Celestia knew she needed to send Twi away, and one of the reasons she was getting overwhelmed is cuz the day she’d send her away is the day Nightmare moon is gonna come back. It’s not only bc she doesn’t wanna send her student away, celestia is the one who literally BANISHED Luna to the moon, She’s obviously gonna know when she comes back. And when she did banish Luna, she was in control of the
Elements Of Harmony
Am meh right? well…The elements could’ve been a signal for celestia to send her away. Or maybe that’s when the Elements lost control of her..So she could’ve sent twilight away for her friends to take over the elements. So in this conclusion…?
Celestia did not release Luna. But she knew she would get released, and controlled twilight to meet friends and defeat her. Cuz…….
She wasn’t in control of the elements anymore.. :p
It think Celestia controls the stars and the moon because stars are sun's billions of miles away but that would mean Celestia is very powerful that she can control the stars and sun and it spreads miles away so that means that she has very big power so it makes it a little different in your therioy
0 likesmaybe its her mother-
1 likeCelestias be like :i did an opsie
0 likesI think DISCORD or star swirl control the stars.
0 likesLuna controls the Stars
1 likeIt coudent been celestia or star swirl or anothet creture but it could of been GUSTY THE GREAT!! She sended grogar to the stara so it could of been her :o
0 likesI Dont Think Its Celestia Look Who Has Stars In There Cutie Mark
0 likesmaybe starswirl controls the star?
0 likesTrue can you do a video about the third stained glass cause it shows the sum the moon and inbetween is there another princess that we don't know about?
0 likesI likd how he produces to mention J.K. Rowling lol
0 likesI Love your shows
0 likesStar light control the stars because she came pony will because she know about the luna . She help that smoke like of you about when 6 main chracter have same dream them you can see that somje like of princess seletia killed the nightmare moon when luna is normal so what she kept on moon she kept that smoke like of thing .
2 likesI totally agree!!!!!!
0 likesI think twilight is the star princess
0 likesIt was Celestia's and luna's mom
0 likesits twillit she has the cutimac of the stars
0 likesI think ⭐️ beredo here created Luna escape because he made the tree of harmony and the tree 🌲 of harmony made Luna escape from the moon 🌙 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
1 likewell if YOU say that............. IS CELESTIA A VERSION OF THE CUTIE MAP WHICH KNOWS LITERALLY EVERYTHING? (Like ponies names, things, and a FUTURE ALICORN????)
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wow,
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0 likesI can say star swirl did that he first name is Star so because you know he has stars on his clothes and his cutie mark is also a star or luna could have done that
0 likesI have a theory, Luna is the princess of the night but not the moon, nightmare moon to! Nightmare moon has the control over night so in the moon, NIGHTMARE MOON HERSELF MOVED THE STARS AND ESCAPED! I find this likely but... why did she wait so long to do it...?
0 likesWhat if it was Princess cadence we didn't see her maybe she because she controlled the crystal empire stars are like crystals right maybe she moves the stars to to the moon to not free nightmare moon but to prove that the legend isn't true
0 likesdon't you get it you said it with your mouth she controls the sun and moon the moon makes the stars and she might moved the stars
0 likesHow controls the stars please tell us
0 likesTwilight control the Stars I mean just look at her
0 likeswell the sun is technically a star so...
1 likewhen you realise at 1:02 there is an alicorn
0 likescelestia was trying to rescue her sister
0 likesI think tree of harmony set night mare moon free it might know that the mane 6 can defeat Night mare moon it is a magcial tree idk but I think tree of harmony freed Night mare moon....but we might never know who accually did that it might not be Grogar, Celestia or the Tree of harmony because if Celestia or Grogar would do it how would it be in the book Twilight read before leaving Cantarlot I just have a feeling its the tree of harmong. Btw love your vids
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Ye
0 likesI think nightmare moon found a way to get out and like did that
0 likesWhat about Lona her self ???
0 likesif doesn't some has or how will they appear at night..?? I mean some one has to do/take the responsibility don't they
0 likesNo it is luna Remer season 7 she controlled the sun
0 likesStars are technically suns
0 likesi think twily moved the stars
0 likesPrincess Celestia race is the sun and the moon and stars so that makes no sense because Luna stars and the moon so yeah
0 likesI don't think Celestia baildout nightmare moon. That is impossible.
0 likesim late but
0 likesafter lunas banishment celestia took over both duty of raising the sun and the moon and the sun is technically a star (i know u said the sun isnt a star in the mlp world but i think it still it yes the mlp is not our world but that doesnt mean the sun cant be a star and who else u think lauren meant, the only characters that has raised the sun and moon was storm king, starswirl the bearded and the other unicorns, twilight, celestia and luna. Starswirl was in limbo the other unicorns, well we don't even know them, storm king well we dont really know his backstory and he didn't had magic to control the sun and the moon he got that magic from the princesses. Twilight had the magic temporary from the princess)
or it could be nightmare moon who controls the stars to release herself out bc if celestia can raise the sun and the moon im guessing luna can do it too
but who was the writer of the book that says the star will make nightmare moon return thing, how did they know, plus nightmare moon was banished for 1,000 years and people forgot there was a 2nd princess
celestia took twilight under her wings so im guessing celestia made a book saying nightmare moon will return and gave it to her then told twilight to make friends
i think thats why celestia opened a magic school
to find a student that can reform luna/nightmare moon
after celestia found twilight and gave her some guidance she knew twilight was ready to ignite the spark and find the 6th element and defeat nightmare moon bringing back luna
the way celestia went missing, she was probably observing since she heard what the mane 6 said
but why didnt celestia change nightmare moon to luna when she had the element though that keeps bugging me out
WHAT IF THERE IS a another lost princess controlling the stars!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesmaybe twilight control the star
0 likesIt might be night mare moon
0 likesWhat was luna doing in the moon
0 likesThe sun is a star a huge star
0 likesWell, If Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon... If anyone will question, "Who controls the stars?" It must be somepony powerful like an Alicorn cuz Celestia Is an Alicorn, Luna is an Alicorn.. the one that might be a Alicorn bc Celestia and Luna are both alicorns so the power of moving the stars maybe Alicorn Worthy? The night NightMareMoon escaped, the stars, MOVED.. and there must be somepony that moved them?! What do u guys think??
0 likesYou know the sun is a star right
0 likesBut in our world the sun IS a star
0 likesThis is just a theory but what if the tree didn't vanish all of Luna to the moon like If the tree left luna`s thing that almost escaped into the real world and made it a living nightmare .... maybe that's the thing that controls the stars?
0 likeswait if nightmaremoon is in The moon Then when Princess celestia makes The Sun who makes The moon
0 likesMaybe twilight sparkle is the one controling the stars just look at her name or cutie mark
0 likesGood idea 👍
0 likesLuna freeed her self!
0 likesMaybe starlight it does make sense because her name is starlight
0 likesI love nightmare moon
0 likesCelestia saw sign of nightmare moon was that the mane 6 is going to come together
0 likesShe missed her sister
0 likesMaby there is a princes of the stars is there?
0 likesShe does make them come.
0 likesWhy do you always say Yoshi Darklord so begrudgingly?
0 likesUmmm... I'm a pegasus born to alicorn parents so am I still counted? Also love your vids!
0 likesI think that Celestia did not do it I think the leader of the team that used to set the sun and moon did it because he is powerful and I think it would help the test sooo Celestia did 1part and he did the other aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i'm in 2nd grade
1 likeSawtooth who controlled the stars
0 likesMe The editors duh
BOO
Luna is culastia
1 likeI think it is the tree of harmony
0 likesThe tree is picky 😪
1 likeThe stars are the sun!
0 likeswhat's your halloween costume sawtooth waves?
0 likesCelsta did it
0 likesThere’s only one answer starlight Shimmer
0 likesWell the sun is a star
0 likeswhy did starlight try to thitroy her sister in clouldstale
0 likeswho had a roll in making all those memes?
0 likesOml I love this: 4:45 - 4:50
0 likesWAIT! im sorry, but isn't twilight the one with her CUTIE MARK AS A STAR!!!!???? my theory doesn't make a lot of sense since twilight IS the one that was worried and knew about nightmare moon's return. but just think about it, maybe, by mistake, she was the one that released NIGHTMARE MOON
0 likesOk the tree set luna free but the question is the tree wasn't ther went the main six pony defited nightmare moon how did it luna free seriously thought
0 likesWell....the sun is a star ;-;
0 likesLol😂idk the control the star😂but I guess twilight is controling it😂
0 likesHey sawtooth can you make a video about if ponies can go to the bathroom I know they probably can take a shower and brush their teeth but can they go to the bathroom
0 likesyou are a grown man who watches my little pony
0 likesmlp is magic so maybe magic?
0 likesIt has to be saucer 🦄
0 likesMaybe she will talk abt it in g5
0 likesSun is also a star
0 likesHmm I think there is a clue im episode 21 season 8 "a Rockhoof and a hard place twilight says and I quote " oh no stars can move slowly over time they must look different now over 1000 years ago." End quote
0 likesthe sun is a star
1 likeawesome ❤️
1 likemaybe it can happened princess celestia Miss princess Luna and think princess Twilight sparkle and her friend can handle this I don't know about the star but I think princess on princess Luna when she was locked in moon
1 likeI think I controlled those stars
0 likesthe sun is a star
1 likeTwilight sparkle or tree of harmony look at that cutie mark of Twilight sparkle it’s a spark like stars and The tree of harmony it’s like in season nine twilight and her friends found out a chest inside the chest she got her new castle and the center of the castle the spark if you like this hit the like button
0 likesIt may be Day Braker
0 likesHer name is flurry heart
0 likesTwilight Sparkle who controls the stars because you could just look at her cutie mark is Stars
0 likesThe tree conected her and the sun is e star so she maybey used the sun ty control ty stars
0 likesSawtooth ‐ what do you guys think how much of a role ...
0 likesMe ‐ you put a picture of a roll im hungry
Are you forgetting someone’s cutie mark
0 likesDID YOU KNOW THAT STARS ARE VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY FAR AWAY SUNS???????
0 likesI'M CALLIN IT! IT'S FLIPPING THE DARK SHADOW HORSE PERSON!!!!!! TmT
0 likesI think it was star Swirl😧
0 likeswell celestia moves the sun put the sun is a star so.
0 likesTwilight did had a cutie mark and then the cutke mark has stars dont know who knows if twilight is doing it
0 likesTwilight controls the stars
0 likesTwilight control the Stars I mean just look at her cutie mark
0 likesGrogar is the father of monsters well nightmare moon is a vilian it is grogar
0 likesI dont think thet Twighlight set nightmer moon free, but she kuld be the princess who kontrols the stars. I mean she didnt have any roal but friendship. And look at her cuty mark
0 likesWho is the strongest and chaotic person you know dis.....cord...... maybe he had enough power to do it
1 like2:49 Please do not make ugly face of the Princess
0 likesI think it's twilight sparkle bc when she bc the new rolery of equstra she Conchos the sun and the moon and her cutey mark is a star
0 likesIt is Twilight Sparkle she has a star as her cutie mark
0 likesNO STAR LIGHT SAID SUN MOON DAY NIGHT
0 likesI think the luna always job to rising the moon because I have seen episode then the celestia defective Luna means nightmare moon and the nightmare moon is anywhere I think so because she is locked anywhere in the celestia tell the Twilight sparkle full history of nightmare moon and she said the nightmare moon is free I think so the Luna is also have a castle on the moon because I see that video so I think the Luna is rising moon and the moon set
0 likesI think it was twilight sparkle
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesOk I have a guess.Eho in My Little Pony has a star in there cutie mark that we knew of? Here's the article Twilight Sparkle I mean look at t huh at cutie mark
0 likesum... celstia is guilty
0 likesCan you make a video about *Who are Princess Celestia and Luna parents*, please!!!!!!!
0 likesIt's princess Luna is inside the moon
0 likesSun is a star:/
0 likesluna controls the stars
0 likesThe sun is a big star
0 likesis it star swirl???????
0 likesTwilight controls the stars
0 likesBefor the tree of harmony get shattered a had a theory that grogar was imprisoned in the roots
0 likesTwilight control the Stars
0 likesMaybe Star swirl
0 likesStarlight glimmer control the stars 😂😂😂kiding
1 likemaybe she ment magic
1 likeprobs the writer herself. lol
0 likesI want to know I really want to know the truth who control the stars
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesMaybe celestia and luna mother control the star
0 likesIs it it the rainbow that gave them a city make
0 likesi know who Control the stars is luna😋😋✅💜
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesThe son is a star...
0 likesLunas dad controls the stars or maybe star swirl or maybe STARLIGHT idk
0 likesWait look at the stars then princess twilight cutie Mark align one of the stars with the other four take away the one in the middle and the one next to it then put the moon in the middle of the four stars then you know who let nightmare moon out
0 likesI think it was star swirl yes and he planted it the tree what if he was trying to communicate with the pony’s in equestria because he was stuck in limbo
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Or it was king sombra because if y’all watch when princess celestia and Luna fight him Luna transform for the first time
0 likeswhat if star swirl did you never no 🧙♂️
0 likesIt is Luna!
1 likek so if Celestia brought them together it would be the same it is today
0 likeslike if you agree
The sun is a star ;)
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesI think that prinnces celest accidently put the wrong spell idk???
0 likesSTARswirl I mean the guy is more powerful than the alicorns he could have done it by simply looking into the future
0 likesluna controls the stars buut celestia can too caus the sun and the stars are same
0 likesso that twilight becomes attached to her friends and then stay learn how to be the princess of friendship and season 9 spoilers
0 likesFour stars : four razem
0 likesAll of the three ponies i mean for example Rainbow, pinky and rarity
And alicorns
So : one pegas, one unicorn, one earth pony and one alicorn who can bez Celestia
???
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I mean rases
0 likesStar swirl the bearded
0 likesWAIT WAIT WAIT STARswirl the bearded?!?! :0
0 likesI hope i can send the picture😭
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likeswasnt the magic that made the fake ponies and other obstetricals NMM???
0 likesthe sun is a star
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesthe sun is a star did you not know that
0 likesSo maybe the Tree of harmony connect to a Celestia and let's the let's you control the song and someone and sisters but was out we saying it but also letting the Tree of harmony control this the start Swan Princess Celestia needs to go out of the moon actually is there a bathroom in the moon😁
0 likesNo one controls the stars when it goes morning pony’s can’t see the stars
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Can’t
0 likesi see sun and moon at the tree of hormany
0 likesI came here right after watching your recent video 😎
0 likesShe was probably wrong 😑
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesluna herself beacouse the stars and moon are two things we see in the night the sun is only in the sky when its day but celestia controls the sun and luna controls the moon butwe do not know about the stars discord could of free luna with his magic but he was stone so the real answer ur looking for is finding out the mother the real real real real mother of celestia and luna hope my informatoin helps im no creator from mlp but i am a fan and i hope u see my coment
0 likesMy daughter party cannon aka abigale and me cuddle fart aka vijay. Think that the tree of harmony sent the visions to celestia making her send twilight to ponyvile and to make friends. Cool channel we love your videos
0 likesPrincess number 6!!!!?????
0 likesi saw this theroy and was unbelieved and I coul'dnt sleep
0 likesi think it was twilight
0 likesIt's star swirl
0 likesCan be star swirls....
0 likesIf the sun is a star in our world but what about in their world.And maybe she saw the signs but maybe the tree of harmony.And you should get your canen
0 likesKing Sombra I think
1 likemaybe star swirl
0 likesLuna or nightmaremoon is her sister it makes sense
0 likesI never noticed the stars-
0 likesMaybe the tree might have moon, sun, and star rising powers because the tree has luna and celestia's cutie mark etched on the trunk
0 likesMe: OMG I KNOW WHY SHE WANTED HER SISTER TO BE REFORMED!
0 likesyeah she wented to set her sister free
0 likesI still beleived the theory of gogor who did released nightmare 🌕 but if you see in the a video called luna' cutie mark Celestia she has to raised the star some night and when she is out of practice celestia doing for
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And I don't think yhe that tree of harmony will cause starlight stop the rainboom nightmare 🌕 was released when the friend were not connected yet like the tree was smart so it has no reason to and you can't argue with the Creator
0 likesDoesn't luna raise the moon TOOOOOOOOOOOOO????????????????
0 likesRIGHT ......
The tree of harmaony was dead Remember from discord
0 likesGuste the. Great. Mabye. Controls. The. Star. She. Was. The. One who. Got. Groger.to the stars
0 likesYou are a detective 🕵️♀️
1 likeIs celestia is banish to the sun?
0 likesUm I think she meant daybreaker
1 likeI think it might be star swear if I spelled something wrong just tell me
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It's Starswirl
0 likesi think it's twilight
0 likesThink starsworl controls the stars
0 likesbut what if...twiglhit spakle conotrol the stars...?
0 likesmaybe it was ... MANTICORE!!! dun dun duuun.
0 likesking cosmos the king of stars
0 likesThink discord or one the villain Dave nightmare moon...
0 likesAlso there are lot of stars in the sky
0 likesI really like a channel when I was five I started watching my pony now I am 10 and when I was 5 I found your channel and I loved your channel but now my little pony is finished and I am sad about it so I am telling you that I like you channel
0 likesMy dad told me stars are suns noote
0 likesHey did you see that inthe tree of harmony to signs are there sun and moom both sisters. Cutie marks what can that mean
1 likeAhem if we are talking about stars LOOK AT TWILIGHT'S CUTIE MARK MAYBE SHE DID IT TO TEST THEIR FRIENDSHIP OR SOMETHING AND FORGOT THAT SHE DID THAT SO SHE WAS SURPRISED
0 likesUh moon is nothing like earth it just a big ball of stone(i'm saying this because you know SCIENCE🔭💉🛢)
0 likesI saw a picture of princess celestia
0 likesI think no one is cotrols stars its just follows the sun and moon ? Idk
0 likesMay be somepony control them
0 likesthe stars move on ther on i think?
0 likesBet twilight is the star
0 likesLet me guess the tree of how many somehow control Gogo because he got sent to the stars so the truth hi mini cruise control Gogo to move the stars closer to nightmare me and will leasing her
0 likesKing cosmos does the stars
0 likesTake the pill ow planted the tree of Harmony and then the main tip use the element of Harmony and in and outside of the tree the pillow only let me know I killed it don't know who who later is nightmare Moon who walked into the night into the dream I definitely I know who walked in the drink and she accidentally come and it can't be to Lucius because they're looking only I know this one it's Luna Luna is the night of moon she she she waited the Moon and ponyville and done when she waited the moon when when she was angry and then she she became a temporary I think nightmare Moon delicia I don't still listening to the animal elementary Harmony to to put nightmare Moon back into the Moon
0 likesthe sun moon and stars
0 likesMaby the magic was not was visible but it was twilight
0 likesThe tree of hemaney did not do anything be cause the tree of hermany was stell in the casel of the two sisters
0 likesSTARS ARE SUNS!
0 likesMaybe et is star swirl
0 likesI am absolutely sorry I am sending in voice message don't read that message I am sure who control the stars when I saw your picture in the video please Twilight was included one racing the sun so I think who are controlling the star is twilight sparkle
0 likesI think there mom freed luna
0 likesi think loona did it
0 likesIt is celestia is the won in the season 7 at celestia advice Wen twilight is the mist top student in the canterlot and Wen celestia SE the mane six and celestia send twilight to ponyvile to revorm luna
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You guys might Ben wonder how celestia release nightmare moon of course youse starswirl speel of course i know i know starswirl is not here but the speel is like twilight swich the mane six Cutie mark
0 likesGorgor sent Luna fee
0 likesThat makes sense
0 likesI Believe Star Swirls Control The Stars
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Maybe but he was in the Limbo that time.
0 likesprincess galexia control stars
0 likesWhat I think maybe 3 of hahnemanni told to read night man moon
0 likesHey, in your video about sunset shimmer's defeat,
0 likesIs it queen galaxia
0 likesWhen I clicked the like button it made 10k likes-
0 likesI think it's grogar
0 likes4 star 4 princess
0 likesThe princess of the stars has controul of the _ can controul both can u guees i know who is it to free her
0 likesCause her cutie mark is a star
0 likesmaybe tıs and luna has another sıs wıch may have moved the stars. the prıncess of stars
0 likesnightmare moon
0 likesi think a know who controls the stars!
0 likesWhat if she did free here but defeated her so she did free here but what she was doing was not to teach them a lesson what is she wanted to see here sister again
0 likesI know sun is a star
0 likesSTARswirl the bearded
0 likesTwillight cutemark is the stars
0 likesLol she has the the star cutie mark
0 likesDiscord controls the stars
0 likesLessia didn’t do nothing nobody did that for Alessia sister she controls your mom chose the stars so that may need to Splaine it what are you doing
0 likesThe sun is a star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likescoughs in STARswirl
0 likeshmmmmm i dont think that princess luna
0 likesI believe lauren
0 likesSTAR SWIRL DUH
0 likesclestia means stars i tihnk
0 likesCelestia
0 likesWell there not like somebody’s name is called starlight
0 likesI my how could celestia?
0 likesCelestia did not lie she saw the main six ha
0 likesI think it twilight
1 likeTwilight she has a star cutie mark what if she did it
0 likesIt’s starswril
0 likesshe wantet to see her reform thats why
0 likesIt was Luna.
0 likesprincesse Celestia blaste Nightmare moon too da moon
0 likesU wrong celestia set her free
1 likePrince and princess of mlp.💂👸👰
0 likesTwilights cutie mark is a star
0 likesWhy is celestia and Luna are glowing
0 likesThere hairs and not twilight and cadance???????????
Stars are far away suns
0 likesI think celestia and Luna have a oler sister
0 likesMight be possible….
0 likesI. Think 🤔. It is star person
0 likesNight mare star she control the stars
1 likeMama coookie meaning I think you did it changling
1 likeThe goat peep the girls thank you
0 likesI know ho can control the star is..... Princess galaxia
0 likesThat's just the directors
0 likesSam is Twilight sparkle has her cutie mark like a star she may become control of the stars to and maybe the property was in chanted to whoever read it in the thousand year well free her
0 likesMan where you will get out episode of My Little Pony like in any app you know
0 likeschew somebody has connected to the stores
0 likesThe elinet of harmami
0 likesuh can you meet twilight in a video pls
0 likesWho controls the stars are you crazy probably the girl with the star cutie mark
0 likesLuna Control the stop
0 likesAnd don't hit them OK.
0 likesStar light glimmer
0 likesIn Netflix there are Six Seasons only
0 likesMaybe you are right
0 likes1:06 WHY DID YOU SAY TWILA CORN PLEASE ANSWER THIS
0 likesCan u do a video on the flowy mane
0 likesCelestia; troll face
0 likesSo i understand what the creator meens so sche sed who controls the sun the moon and the stars so when she said stars i knew what they meant when luna was waniesht ssche controls the night and the day she didnt move the stars but the moon and the sun but when celestia faund the perfekt ponies she realiest luna (night mare moon ) with the stars but all those years celestia didnt control the stars bcs that will shock everponie and celestia wated for the perfeckt time to realies luna (night mare moon)
0 likestwiligth's citie mark is stars....
0 likesI hate how twilight was the main character. Rainbow dash mostly made all the cutie marks. And twilight gets the be the main character when rainbow dash made the cutie marks.
0 likesBut how did you do that because I'm on particular episode I said that is not the the elements of harmony doing the work the elements given the back
0 likesNo she said that I waited to long bro send you to pony vill so she wait 1.00.0000 of years
1 likeThis came out on my birthday
0 likesStarswirl? O-o?
0 likesI think that is the princces of star
0 likesthe toontown cj jury nooooo 4:43
0 likessun is a star
0 likesi think that fluler hart contruels the stars and she is the prinssce of light i thik dis becaes celestia coutles the sun and luna contles the moon and then cadence rules the crystly empier she is the princess of love and then twilght sparkel is the princess of friendship and before that groger ruled the world and then gusty the grat stolee his bell and banish hi too the stars and the the princess moved the 3 stars and that the princess mane 6 and the tree of harmony relest nightmare moon
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AND MORE GROGER
0 likesCelestia is a Troll
0 likesThe sun is a star hello
0 likesStar swirl look at his cute mark
0 likesShe stole the elements she is cute but she is bad
0 likesi tried joining your Patreon but I'm a kid
0 likesStarlight
0 likesThere’s 9 season
0 likesthe star is ckntroled by star swirl celestia shine like a star but the sun is not like a star it is really hot at sun so star swirl is ckntrlling the star....and celestia banish nightmare moon but luna only returns when the movie is done. like i see luna retruns so fast when twilight and her friends deafted nightmare moon luna was there but when celestia deafited nightmare moon her sister luna is on the moon so luna only retruns when the movie is ended. :)
0 likesIts good 👍
0 likesummm who has the cutiemark of a starrrrrrrrrrrrrr
0 likes4:44 do you play toontown or is that a coincidence?
0 likesTOONTOWN!! :)
0 likesSawtooth waves
0 likesi think tge star sworl the beared
0 likesIn netflix in mlp in the 1st season while ttwilight was walking and you see nigytmare koon i think
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1st episode
0 likesIn the mirror thing while she was telling spike
0 likesThe heck I control the star's😤😤😤😤
0 likes....... Why did you do this to me creator! 😤
0 likes....... Why did you do this to me creator! 😤
0 likesSun is a star i think celestia is behind the star and realeasd him but he bunhesed him on the moon in a thoasand years and i think she is already realeised so that the episode celestia dont see in the raised the sun so nightmare moon buneshd him in the sun now so she now buneshd......
0 likeso twilight 😎
1 likeomg this vid was made so close to my birthday cause my birthday is may first
0 likesLove yours video
0 likesI think spirit or spike
0 likesPlot Twist: LAUREN FAUST controls the stars
0 likesAnd the other stars
0 likesRoll Celestia tho
0 likesStar Swirl
0 likesThink twalight control stars
0 likesStar swirl i know it you dont yanna know why i tingk he is
0 likesPizza to day I got pizza the sun is a star
0 likesCelestia you're the elemental Harmony to to Venice nightmare Moon into the Moon and Luna I think this happened and then when I don't know and some kind of more nightmare Moon is still into the Moon and then the main thing you did the elemental Harmony to the elements do they do and a quick a rainbow to the rainbow blue cool onto nightmare Moon and then it turn into a tornado of color and then that tornado of color Spanish and then she became back Luna okay that done
0 likesWatch more videos but I want to videos where is this video that that explains to the closest stores it’s princess Luna who controls the stars but she got out of practice so she had to like you know how to sew last year do it and have a bed for
0 likesUmm........ The sun is a star she controls it are you oblivious not in a mean way just a little
0 likesWhat do horses look like in equestrian and I mean my little PONY and I heard ponies are smaller than horses but in the show th e ponies are horse sized??
0 likesInteresting. I suppose.
0 likesStar swirl
0 likesBut don't punch anyone OK.
0 likesi love you so much for the first time in the meantime i am a kid
0 likeselements curs her
0 likesthird sister of the rolyal familie baling her little sister
0 likesBut do punch someone.
0 likesHappy summer.☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️🌦☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️
0 likesHow to grow funny can't turn into the star
0 likesSee there is no equestria
0 likesAnd why hassent Lauren Faust commented?
0 likesFluri Heart
0 likesHi That was me I'm aSpider25 also I don't know who control the stars but I do know the earth goes around the sun but I swear to god if someone did who could it be? also ty and I loves your videos Sawtooth Wavs I'm alicorn but stronger you know what I'm meant by stronger ok bye 😁
0 likesWatch the video again there sisters they have the same perents sisters!?
0 likesCelestia made nightmare moon so so they Twilight sparkle and the five good sex to learn magic of friendship so celestia mind made for that reason
0 likesgrogar control stars
0 likes😱
0 likesAre you a real poney
0 likes1 thing the hint watch the video again the creater said
0 likesGues it ☀⚡
0 likesstarlight glimmer jk or am I?
0 likesanyway celisa is bad
0 likesAhhhh. Gah. 😿🙀😭
0 likesTwilight
0 likesLuna 8s nhigtmare moon she transform
0 likesTwilight controls it she has thoose stars on her cutie mark and the stars sparkle and her name is twilight sparkle
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Or it is starswirl or starlight
0 likesTwilight
0 likesThere parents.
0 likesIt is grogar
0 likesStartracker JAJJAJ
0 likesBut then again…
0 likesBut waht happend to groga he was a story and discort pretent to be groga so wie have a choce taht groga move the Stars?
0 likesHmmmm. Yep
0 likesWho the heck understand this
0 likesEs twilight
0 likesCalesstia
0 likesIs à la corn does not even real cause I’m in the wings in the sky and then whoever catch them just to catch them and they turn in to them
0 likesTwilight Sparkle
1 likeI'm confused.
0 likes🦄⭐️
0 likesI just want you to know that I will get to see your next week
0 likesThat will help you
0 likesit is not star swirl be couse star swirl was not thare yet
1 likeWhere is the universe Equestria how to go there
0 likescutie mark
0 likesstarswirl likes te princesses maybe its starswirl I MEAN LOL STAR IS IN THHE NAME AND HES SOME WIZARD O.O
0 likesI like your video
0 likesSee luna one
0 likesstar SWIRL
0 likesStar swirl he is the oaly one moves star
0 likesthere’s a problem with celestia releasing nightmare moon. In season 6 finale when starlight messed up the past you you can see in one of the presents nightmare moon took over equestria. That shouldn’t have happened because celestia would know for a fact she wouldn’t be reformed if she let her out.
2 likesIn the one episode, when Tirek wanted all of the magic in the world, Celestia, Luna and Cadence gave Twilight their powers so that Tirek couldn't stell them. If there would be another huge magic that could control the stars, i'm pretty sure they would have mentioned it.
0 likesI always thought the the original spell she cast to imprison her sister had a built-in failsafe. Like, it was just on a timer from the start. I.E. the prophecy.
0 likesThe troll face image made me spit out my soup literally almost every time-
2 likesI just realized something. So you know how after Luna got banished to the moon, Celestia took charge of of the Sun and the *Moon*. Apparently, that's what the narrator said in the very beginning. Luna wasn't unbanished yet, so Celestia still had control over the Sun, moon and stars. I think Sawtooth already covered this, but I'm not sure. :P So yes, she probably did release Luna, just like Faust said. Or it could've been the tree, I'm not an expert at this lol. Like so Sawtooth can see!
0 likesI don’t know why but comparing Celestia to “I Am Looking 👁👁” really cracked me up
0 likesI feel like there’s a third sister who either died or went missing shortly after birth and still has control over the stars which is why they never disappear just become dull and she felt bad for her sister and let her out using the stars
0 likesThe legend says she'd will come back from the moon and stars come out at night what if luna freed her self bc it was the day she comes back
2 likesI pitched this question at my family and it came up that Celestia and Luna may very well have multiple siblings, one of which could have dominion specifically over stars and being a fan of stars was probably really close with Luna. If they were living off world, however, it isn’t impossible to think that it took a thousand years for them to hear about how their favorite sibling was imprisoned on the moon, aided in her escape and proceeded to get into a fight with Celestia to prevent her from putting Luna back in the moon which is why she was not in most of the premiere
0 likesI know this will sound weird, but I think Twilight herself released Nightmare Moon. Think about it: Celestia’s cutie mark is the sun so she controls the sun, Luna’s is the moon so she controls the moon. Neither have ever been shown controlling the stars, but who has a star shaped cutie mark? Twilight Sparkle. I think the stars started moving to release Luna because Twilight read the prophecy and believed it would happen.
0 likesAlternatively she used Star Swirl’s time traveling spell to go back in time later after she gained alicorn magic and set things in motion knowing everything would work out.
Well the elements of tree harmony sent nightmare moon to the moon, who said it can't release her as well?
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Or maybe nightmare moon freed her self.
0 likesLauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.
0 likes"When" is "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so. the tree of armony didn't exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).
Maybe the force of the stars did so, my theory is that a magical relic (similar to the one twilights uses to move the sun and moon) to move the stars, keep in mind that celestial and Luna are using alicorn magic spells not another force to move the sun and the moon, so Maybe celestia was looking for a way to bring back her sister so she searched for a spell like the one she uses to rise the moon and the sun, to bring the banished back. Suddenly she stumbles across a spell that can bring banished back with the help of the stars that form a specific way to open a gate way of magic which is activated by the spec she casted 1000 years ago. The relic would only activate after 1000 years due to the right time, when you combine that with destiny it would mean that nightmare moon and the main six were destined to meet in that time. But that would leave the question open how do they know about the 1000 years? They didn’t, it’s a myth. That’s my theory it’s not satisfying at the end but ig it’s good enough XD
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1 likeok, so I have a theory.
"Who controls the sun, moon, and stars?"
Of course, we all assume that means Celestia since she is the only one we see that is able to control the sun and moon on her own. But the stars? We've only ever seen Luna be able to control them. And I agree with The Brony Notion in that while the sun is considered a star in our world, it may not be in Equestria.
Celestia was gifted the power to move the sun, and yet we see that she can move the moon as well. As such, I don't think it would be a stretch to assume that Luna could move the sun too.
And if that's the case, then Luna is the one who controls the sun, the moon, and the stars.
And by extension, Nightmare Moon.
I'm proposing the possibility that Nightmare Moon broke herself out. After centuries of isolation in the moon, her moon, her anger would begin to grow. and she would use this anger to fuel her power enough that even in her prison she could control the stars. Ever so slightly. Until eventually, the stars would aid in her escape and she would finally have her revenge.
What do you guys think?
me: I'm reposting this comment! and I totally agree
You should make the guardian of the stars and other planets. Also is it possible that there are other universes? Pinkie could be the guardian of the stars… It makes sense because she sees things, reacts to them, but she never does say she never knew that was gonna happen…
1 like0:43 well it kinda make sense, Celestia knows that 1000 years after nightmare moon's banishment, she will have a student who will become heir to the throne, she wrote the book to prepare twilight, the banishment spell last forever but she release her 1000 years later on purpose, to test twilight's power, and probably most of twilight's journey and foe she faced was set up by Celestia to test her strength.
0 likesI think Luna is the one who moves the night which include stars
0 likesMy original thought was star swirl controls the stars cause of the Star in his name but i really quickly realized that cant be possible if he was trapped in limbo
0 likesI think it’s both the tree and Celestia
0 likesJust after Celestia banished her sister she said while crying “ harmony please can you give me my sister back “ or something along this lines the tree excepted it and set it up like the first episode then Celestia had vision about the first episode and helped it forward. that is just my theory
The stars aren't moving its just blending with the light of the sun
0 likesSawtooth I think I know who moves the stars and all lamps Star swirl it's in his name and plus he's part of the tree of Harmony 😁
0 likesIf you read the book. journal of the two sisters. It says in Luna's diary entry saying that she was being taught by starswirl to move the stars. She was successful. but It took a lot of concentration. Luna said once she was able to raise the moon she would graduate into moving the stars. with I think she mastered before her corruption. Is it possible... That nightmare moon could have freed herself?!!!
0 likesStill loving these theories!
0 likesIf it was the tree, how would it know, I mean, the tree was long before Luna even was jealous and dreamwalking ( watched the Daybreaker episode)how would the tree had known...
0 likesLet me fix this theory.
0 likesPrincess Luna used to mo e the moon and the stars therefore since she was banished someone else had to take up that job. So yes princess celestia did free might nare moon but your evidence could be more accurate. Oh and how do I know princess Luna changes the stars just watch the prologue again it says; ‘princess Luna would raise the moon and stars to bring the night.’ Or something like that.
I think Celestia brought nightmare moon because she was must be missing her sister, must be tired of controlling sun and the moon and also twilight then realized how much friendship is important.
0 likesMaybe Lauren Faust was pointing to Luna/Nightmare Moon doing this?
0 likesMaybe all these years she was just PULLING those stars towards the moon for them to one day release her?
If she WAS pointing to Celestia then it probably has something to do with Celestia taking on Luna's duties to raise the moon after Luna was Banished... I have 2 possibilities, Maybe Celestia can't get the stars right every night because It's normally Luna that does them, Or Celestia May have PURPOSELY moved those 4 stars closer and closer to the moon each night to one day release her sister and hopefully get stopped by The Newly found Mane 6..
I have 2 theorys
0 likesFirst,your right.The tree tested the mane 6,and the student 6 before. So maybe the tree made it or used someone to make it
But,Celestia is the Princess of the Sun,that means,She is the Princess of the Day too.And Luna is the Princess of the Moon,so she is the Princess of the Night too. So,Luna can't move the stars,but she maybe can conect whit the stars .So maybe stars wanted to save their Queen.Or if Celestia is controling the Moon and the Sun (being the Princess of the Night and the Day at the same time),since Luna not at Equestria,maybe she conected whit the stars and sad them to save Luna!
What do you think?
Ok so this is a theory i thought of while reading the comments. So I’m season 1 we were introduced to Prince Blueblood who is apparently their nephew, implying that there is a potential long lost sibling out there somewhere. Soooo celestia controls the sun, Luna the moon, and long lost sibling.... may control the STARS! Now that raises a few questions, who, where and why. Who is this long lost sibling, where are they, and why did they free Luna. Could they predict things or get visions? WAIT ok so we’ve seen celestia is able to kinda get visions of thing that are happening presently, i mean she literally has a realm where she could watch all of the things twilight was doing, some may argue that makes her past but i don’t think so lol. So what if this sibling can predict the future? Think about it if they have a connection to the stars maybe they see these future things “in the stars” or better yet what if they CONTROL the stars so they can share with others? It would kinda make sense, Celestia is present, sibling is future and maybe Luna has extensive knowledge of the past (maybe it’s why she talks the way she does). This could also explain why she let nightmare moon out, she saw that she would be reformed by the mane six which sent off a seriös of chain reactions that is now the friendship is magic series.
0 likesNow comes the where, where is this long lost sibling. I for one think they are in the astral plane/ sky realm where Nightmare moon was and where grogar maybe resides. So why is she there? I’m thinking three things. One maybe the burden of seeing the future is something she didn’t want her sisters to endure so maybe she self exiled herself. Two, maybe she is the keeper of the sky realm and watches over it. Three maybe the price of seeing the future is maybe you can’t directly share it with anyone. (Something Else is that they could be imprisoned there but i don’t think so).
I guess the last question is where did prince blueblood come from? Like did the long lost sibling just drop him off and be gone? I’m not sure so I’ll leave y’all to decide. Thanks for reading 😁
I think you are right but remembering when before the six friends with Twilight (starswirl) and his friends are also part of the tree and they are connected so I think the tree used starswirl magic to free nightmare moon
0 likesIt might have been the people who raised the sun and the Moon before Celeste you came along recette nightmare Moon!
0 likesBut there’s no guarantee that the stars are actually controlled by someone so what if the stars are controlled by themselves. Think about it. Celestia was supposed to be In town hall by the time nightmare moon escaped therefore she saw the signs and let twilight and her friends defeat her. However, the sun is a star but another celestial body that has nothing to do with other stars so she can’t be responsible.
0 likesYou remember that singing celestia Vonage nightmare moon to the moon so maybe she has control of her escape
0 likesBut because Luna is banished, Celestia is controlling night and day. So... I guess she IS the one who released Night Mare Moon.
0 likesI think that the pony that controls the stars is the unknown sister of CELESTIA and LUNA
0 likesActually Lauren Fuast wanted Twilight to Be the sucsesser of Celestia.
1 likeDid Celestia released nightmare moon or did Groger released nightmare moon?
0 likesLauren Faust Never said it was Celestia who did it is someone that controls the sun moon and the stars but we have no proof that she was meaning Celestia!
0 likesi think twilight did because her cutie mark is an star and she was detsitn to do that but unconuisly she controlls the stars
0 likesI think princess Celestia control the stars since she is a sun princess when you put all the stars together and makes the sun
0 likesBut isnt the stars a sun itself too? And a sun is a star itself? After it becomes a medium sized star it becomes a red giant.isnt it possible that celestia setted nightmare moon free?
0 likesCelestia only released nightmare moon and Discord released 3 villains Queen Chyrasils, tirek and cozy glow by pretending to be grogar.Celestia didn't pretend to be someone else like discord. So Celestia know's what's she is doing!!👩👩👩
0 likesI guess princess celestia have waited for twilight to make friends and be ready once she thought twilight was ready she must have freed nightmare moon.
0 likesIdk who controlled the stars but celestia did that bc she missed her sister so she wanted somepony to free her from the darkness
0 likesWhen I watched mlp for the first time and watched the one about nightmare moon I was actually terrified... Welp thats 5 year old me...
0 likesI know this is VERY far fetched, but does anyone know where Starlight was at this point in time?
0 likesI think it's Celestia and maybe the tree of Harmony literally look at this thing it is a tree it could be alive or it could be a normal tree just with magic powers those powers are putting the Elements of Harmony in the tree so I think it's just Celestia letting her sister Escape because she knew this was going to happen and I think she lied about her sister's return made her sister return she didn't really say that the way you explained it just doesn't make sense
0 likesi read a few other and it seemed that you all presume celesta or nightmare moon herself or the tree of harmony
0 likesBut I have another theory- what if it was someone that ruled equestria that was powerful and ancient who else would that be???
ANS.:THE REAL GROGAR!!!!!!!
When gusty the great took his bell he might have a little power so he went to the future (looked in his crystal ball to) see Luna(nightmare moon) being banished peeps he used his last bit of magic to transport him to another land like scorpan went back to his homeland and wait till nightmare's anger to grow upand use a bit more of he might have restored over time and move those stars .
I think it is twilight’s mom because her cutie mark is the stars ✨🌚🌚
0 likesIf I was the owner I would make a princess of stars and make a villain
0 likesThat took her power
Ther might be a reason because the stars can also be suns or moons that are far away
0 likesCelestia is the pony who put lyna in the moon for a thousand years but it is not her she just put her there because she wanted to protect everypony
0 likesThe star's Luna escaped from the moon her self by controlling the them
0 likesI discovered a thing all of you watch the actual episode and you see Nightmare moon when twilight is reporting to celestia about it is the Thousand Year and Nightmare moon is gonna come and you see Nightmare moon as a reflection on the time thing you know that sand thing
1 likeI think when Luna and celestia said that even an alicorn birth was even out of their understanding I think they meant that they don’t completely under stand the science behind their own birth. Think about it when your a baby you don’t just pop out and know why and how you where born you need to be taught that. Celestia and Luna where most likely taken from there parents when they where young and their parents never got the chance to teach them about alicorn birth. All I’m saying is that there is still a chance that Luna and celestia where born alicorn s plzzzzz read this comment I think it would makes a lot of sense even with the fact that flurry heart is the alicorn of light because sisters are related like one is related to ones family. Them being the alicorns of sibling hood would mean that from birth they would be together and that them being the alicorns of sibling hood would apply right away. Well any ways I loveeee your videos byeeee.
0 likesMaybe Starswirl was the one who controls the stars
0 likesYou all are wrong. Star swirl was vanishes over a 1000 years when he and the other send the shadow to the limbo he just appeared in Season 7.
0 likeswhat if flurry heart controls the stars and the crystal heart could be connected
0 likesTwilight sparkle her name makes sense to the stars and also she was the one to actually see it and also she was reading frisky like she read a spell she actually did on the stars
0 likesthe scriptwriters controlled the stars
0 likesTwilight's cutie maek are 4 stars so it might be her and also she knew nightmare moon than anybody else (exexpt celestia
0 likesShe released nightmare moon , because she missed her
0 likesWell i think a unicorn was doing practice and her cutey mark is stars so she was practecing and by accident control the star and free who ever is it (i forgot) and i'm curious if its a new training alicorn because no one is stronger than that
0 likesCelestia kind of freed nightmaremoon daybreaker freed her because she did say she should of destroyed her so she freed her because she was gonna destroy her after
0 likesWhat if twilight did something to the stars and did not know it
0 likesthe sun is a star, maybe celestia control not only the sun, but all the other suns
0 likesI think the person that controls the stars is the mother of Celestina and luna,Queen Galaxia.First,If Queen Galaxia died then Celestia would have been Queen,but like she is still a princess,Galaxia is still alive,plus it’s galaxy,And what is in a galaxy,So many Stars,So that is what I think
0 likesI think starlight is there long lost sister and when she was younger she had a short temper and when Luna and Celestia got there wings or horn starlight was gone to her grandmas house or something but when she returned she realized she missed her sisters getting there wings or horn so because she had a short temper and her parents promised they would wait until she came home but they didn’t and Luna was aways there for her so when she was sent to the moon she was still to know what was going on or to get her wings and when she realized she was set to the moon she was mad but knew there was a reason so she brought her back when the time was right but when she went to say hi again she was so excited but then when she said hello Luna and celesta forgot about her so with out no one not even her best friend so without anyone to calm her down she became crazy but then twilight calmed her down........about the lost of her best friend she thought no one would believe her if she said she is the princess’s sister
0 likesWell twis has a star cutie mark so she’s it
0 likesWait the sun the moon and the stars aren't those all things that light up and I remember when you said furly heart was The Princess Of Light and remember that episode that twilight went to the past. Well Fury heart could have gone to the past and move the stars because the stars are light. So Fury heart could have moved the stars and she would know that she had to do it because she all ready did.
0 likesFun fact- the sun is a star
1 likeI want to say starwirl but hes in limbo... or somehow he found his way to use his magic :/
0 likesLuna is controller of the moon AND STARS so Luna broke her self free
0 likesSorry I was late for my comment but it’s obvious it was twilight because if you watch the last sun celebration Twilight was using her magic I think she controls the stars but who moves the clouds???
0 likesThe star can do it equestria starts are able to move so can you see
0 likesI'd say luna controls the stars
0 likesMaybe there is a secret Alicorn who is the princess of the stars
0 likesI think that she was saying that it was Starsworld, if I'm spelling that right. I mean he did help raise the sun, and his name has to do with stars, also what if he didn't want Luna, one of his dear pupils stuck in the moon! Now I know what your thinking, but he wouldn't have been able to do that considering where he was, well my answer to that is... I don't know, this is just my theory you know? Maybe Sawtooth can fix it in some way to make it work.
0 likesWait celestia could have she still controls the moon
0 likesThe creator says celestia freed nightmaremoon SawtoothWaves:Bet
0 likesI think furry heart is the priness of light
0 likesWhat if twilight is controlling the stars
0 likesI think Nightmare Moon move the Stars
0 likesCelestia and Luna,s cutie mark are related to the sun and moon what if twilight does the stars
0 likesThe TREE controled the stars!?
0 likesStarlight She’s has a horn star is in her name and she’s a princess
0 likesBECAUSE ITS NOT THE DAMN SAME WITHOUT DASHIE
0 likesI mean celestia banish nightmare moon to the moon so maybe celestia has control of her escape
0 likesOkay I need to tell you something it's very important and I think it's a theory that you will want to post a video about so on the grand Galloping Gala video when My Little Pony Rarity said that the blue bell was Celestia's nephew so either Luna had a baby or they have another sister and who would that sister be the one that controls the Stars
0 likesExcuse me this is a normal show not related to real life this is craziness Jesus this is made by Lauren Faust not crazy hooman
0 likesI think she did it beacuse she new that they were the right six ponnies that would save her sister. And she even looked on pinkie, appeljack, dash, rarity and fluttershy before twilight come. AND she said that twilight should check everything is ok were 2/3 of them were at. And with the tree, the tree didn’t have the harmony at that time
0 likesMaybe it was luna did luna still have her powers
0 likesWho controls the stars? Nobody yet
0 likesMe : the sun is a star -._-.
Eu não entendo a língua de vocês mas sou uma grande fã de my little pony
0 likes1:50- I thought she was dipping him lol.
0 likesWait...stars...TWILIGHT not on purpose. It what if she triggered it by going to pony ville? The tree felt her and the others presence all together and then that is what aet nightmare free. Celestia saw the signs as twilight rejected friendship until that moment.
0 likesWAIT A SEC the sun is a star so is the sun person
0 likesKinda a good theory
0 likeswell this might help a little but celestia is a princess of the sun so she is tierd all day and when starlight switched their marks luna is tired so celestia feel what her sister feel, s and if she realisd night mare moon her thout, s will be like day breaker
0 likesDude twilighs name is twilight sparkle and her cute Mark is a star fun fact when I first watched it I thought that Luna controlsthe moon celestial controls the sun and twilight controls the strs😐
0 likesThe sun is a start, right?
0 likesI think it’s twilight sparkle because twilight as in the time that’s when the stars start to come out
0 likeswho will tell him sun is a star.....
0 likesThe signs she saw was the mane 6
0 likesThat controls the star is Twilight
0 likesI know this doesn’t really make any sense aaand I’m here too late but what about Twilight is able to control stars in the future ya know her other ”form” would be The Princess Of Stars well it doesn’t answer a question who controllet them before- maybe Star Swill like the other comment said? Ps: she has stars on her cutie mark.
0 likesWhat if it was night mare moon that did it
0 likesPrincesses Luna did it she controls the stars because she is the princess of the night
0 likesI think night mare moon !!!😪😪
1 like.... what and maybe it was Star swirl Bearden that pony is pretty powerful!!!???!!??!?
0 likesTHE SUN. IS A STAR
0 likesWho are you to blame cilestiya
0 likesLuna controls the stars like her mother i wacth it
0 likesChanged my mind its star swirl his name is STAR
0 likesWildlife of controlled stars Twilight sparkle
0 likesI think it was twilight
0 likesAHHH LUNA AND NIGHTMARE MOON ARE THE SAME PERSON MEANS THEIR SISTER AKC
0 likesI think it’s the tree
0 likesTwilight control the stars
0 likesI think furry heart did it
0 likesNo one controll the stars sun or the moon ok it’s just common sense
0 likesWho raised the sun and moon when celestia and luna Weren't alive And didn't u forget The sun is a star 👁👄👁
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Uh star swirl daaa
1 like@Mohamed Youseff Still,Even before starswirl was alive who did raise the sun and moon??
1 like• YuiiBoo • I’m very sure that unicorns from generations and generations raised the sun and moon. And plus,Celestia was probably alive when the empire first began
1 like@Fruity Snacks but in the play they said before and raising the sun and moon is how. They got both there wings and Cutie marks
1 likeLuna controll's the star's SO LUNA AND NIGHTMARE MOON ARE DIFFRENT PONY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesI think there's another alicorn that controls the stars or maybe its celestia and Luna mom I was so dying who is there mom so I think there mom is still alive
0 likesStar Swirl?
0 likesi thing the perinses of the moon controls them.
0 likesFriendship is witchcraft
0 likesmaybe luna's dad
0 likes“lol”
0 likesI think that is star lihte grimar
0 likesNo wait I think I meant moves the clouds
0 likesCan you do a crazy movie
0 likesIt name is soaring with stars
0 likesYeah its STAR swirl
0 likesThe SUn Is a StaR SaWtOOth-
0 likesIt could be star swirl abearded bc...yah
1 likeTwilight have to start
0 likesI think that celestia myght have rilst night mer moon so she can eat all the cackes ;]
0 likesItssss star swirl his name is star
0 likestwillite controls the srars because here cutie merk is a star
0 likesStar lite is control the stars
0 likesPif the tree doesn't even talk
0 likesStarswirl star swirl get it?
0 likesStarlight glimmer control star
0 likesStar swirl bro at 4:20
0 likesStar swirl is not innocent
0 likesSun its not yello its white BC the thing idk what called and is celetia
0 likestHe SuN iS a StAr xDDDDDDD
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Wait what if everything is a lie and it is just a test and nobody is evil ahm I mean nopony XD
0 likesDo you know who I have to start cutie mark
0 likesCelastya rools the stars becus in won video that it was celastya seid I will help you weth the stars and you doo the moon and you will help me weth the sun
1 likeI don't know princess celestia do with princess luna
0 likesOk this is easy star swirl did u forget abut him it seems like they free her because they new the main six will bring Luna back I’m on my moms phone
0 likesStar light star light Star light Star light GLIMMER
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She did it if you think about it it all makes sense , she is a very very very powerful unicorn
0 likesAnd actually like I love your vids
0 likesTWILITTTTTTTTT SPPPPARRKEEEEELLLL!!!!
0 likesIthink is starlight
0 likesso I dont know what season nine is because my tv doesn't have that season but I think starswirl controls the stars and luna the moon celesta I dont if I splet that right sorry anyway she the sun honestly I think those student that saved the school have something to with nightmare moon anyways bye
0 likesWHAT THE HECK!!!OMG LOL!🥶🥶🤐
0 likesYour the best
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0 likesYeah you are right yes yeah but the main 6 defeat bye ok your welcome ok by
0 likesI already know his but I skiped
0 likesI’m really sorry
0 likesI hate you so much for telling me what about the show
0 likesTwilit becose the cutemark loke like a star!
0 likesIt is twilight sparkel
0 likes🥰
0 likesThere is no season. Eight
0 likesWho can Cantorlrlthe starts you now starts come at night time so who can control moon prinsses Lunu she still part of night mare moon🌙 whood Be Day breaker no there fighting they dont like eack other hmhmhmhm so confuosing
0 likesIt's tawalat
0 likes😱😱😱😱😱
0 likesHi it's kartiki a big fan of my little pony
0 likesIt's a joke
0 likes''omg"
0 likesChor who are controlling the
0 likesLuna kontrols der stars DC ets af part of der naite
0 likesI can’t even get notified if I press the bell button but if I don’t press the bell button I still Don’t get notified
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0 likesClesteia
0 likesIs another burger is a pound of the chef henry the today night name is a star anise princess twilight sparkle sanders picking him back my name
0 likeskus the stars ere sun far awey
0 likesTROLLESTIA-
0 likesTwilight ets twilight 💫👑🦄⭐️🌞🌤🌝🌕
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0 likestirek did it
0 likeswow i love this vidio
0 likes1:22
0 likesDo it
0 likesÌ think the controler was ďddddddiii discord
0 likeshoo cintrols the nit
0 likesstar swrl
0 likesdid it
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0 likesOk ❤️
0 likesWhen she says "I saw the signs of her return " what she ment was "I saw you and your friends emerging as the bearers of the elements and I knew it was time to release her"
2 likesBy "I saw the signs" I could interpret that as she had the vision that this was time to reform Luna.
0 likesMaybe when the 4 stars touched the moon, we're the stars already released and then slowly headed towards the moon for a 1000 years?
1 likeI died when he put the picture of an actual dinner roll 😂😂😂
2 likesLauren Faust : sees Sawtooth's video
0 likesAlso Lauren Faust : time to debunk some theories
Sawtooth : seeing he got debunked again
If I had to guess who released Nightmare moon, I'd have to argue Cozy Glow. Since friendship is magic, and magic is connected to the sonic rainboom winch is connected to destiny, magic IS destiny.
0 likesThe event, -like said in the video was orchestrated by the tree of harmony. Nightmare moon was released the first episode, it was only about half a year to get to the season 8 finale (in the show's time) Meaning, Cozy Glow was still around, around to research and prepare to drain equestria's magic. I have two possibilities. A: Cozy Glow was researching for her spell and came across nightmare moon, and in an attempt to drain/gain her powers, she accidentally weakened Celestia's spell. B: Cozy Glow tried,-and failed at a smaller version of the spell we see in season 8. And when trying this spell, she weakened Celestia's spell keeping Nightmare Moon prisoner, allowing her to escape. But that's just my theory.
I guess it's Starswirl as in another video it's mentioned that Starswirl took Celestia and Luna "under his wing" and made them alicorns,thus making him connected to them.He knew everything about them, including Luna's banishment. When he "found" the right ponies to reform Luna, he would unite them and when the time was right, gave Celestia a vision of what was going to happen who would send the united ponies (Mane 6) to reform Luna. Then, he would rotate the stars, allowing Luna to "escape" and the Mane 6 to reform her. (Not quite familiar with the lore and the older episodes, so there might be some mistakes. :P )
0 likesRead the tweet again, Sawtooth. Lauren Faust stated that "the stars aligned in a perfect pattern that allowed her escape." I doubt it was the spirit of harmony. If anything, it was a unicorn. Has anypony's cutie mark ever had a design like that. I don't know for sure, but listen to this. Rewatch the "Unlocking Grogar's True Past" video and listen to what you said. "... Grogar may still have been banished to the stars..." Who banished him? Gusty the Great. This is just a theory, but if Gusty can banish someone to the stars, then she can possibly free someone already banished. Please make your next video on this. Thank you.
0 likeswas luna able to use magic to escape? if so, I think that she would controll the stars to get revenge on her sister but was defeted. But I also think that she was able to set Nightmare Moon free.
0 likes1:43
1 likeDifferent mental capacity or not, they still did the exact same thing on different scales. Or at least they would have
Alternate Timelines exist, someone in as high a position as her is bound to know that
Also I feel like the Tree of Harmony is
ChaoticHarmonious Neutral. It uses bad people to do good things, and good people to do bad things, all for the sake of what it thinks is meant to happen, when really it has ultimate choice ofer what happensshe was actually banished for 100 years. she was waiting and when the day arrived, she came back.
0 likesI believe celestia controls the sun and stars are just suns extremely far away so all the evidence adds up to celestia although it does seem that Luna has more of a reputation of controlling space objects rather than celestia and Luna can block the sun using the moon but I still believe celestia moves the stars
0 likesI think it’s the tree that released nightmare moon bc remember
0 likesAll: ..Move all on their own!
So maybe the tree controls the stars like the forest controls the clouds?
I assumed Faust meant that Celestia knew when the imprisonment spell would be broken. If their stars move in predictable manner it wouldn't be that hard. However on reading her tweet again it does look like she's saying it was deliberate...
0 likesI have an extremely weird feeling that Celestia and Luna have a third sister that controls the stars, but nobody knows about her existence except (Maybe!) their faint and distant memories of her, and their parents obviously; but we never see the parents in the show so they couldn't tell anyone about the third alicorn sister. Or I could be wrong, I don't know.
0 likesWhere do you think Twilight inherited her biasness? CELESTIA😂 So why not be biased towards her evil sister🤷
0 likesIn the comics,it's Luna who controls the stars,but Luna is the one trapped in the moon,so there's no way for her to free herself.
0 likesA sun is a star, and I think celestia can also somewhat control the moon, soooo...
0 likesYou’re really interesting and I really love your videos!!!
0 likesGoing back to your celestia setting her free theory, maybe she wanted her sister back and knew that with new bairers of the elements with the main focus as friendship, celestia knew that this time, Luna would get reformed, not defeated like how she would have had to been if celestia tried to bring Luna back herself.
0 likesOr perhaps that the spell of celestia was gone by years so she knew that she will be released this day
0 likesMaybe Celestia saw the signs that the stars would eventually let Luna out and she just sped up the process lol.
0 likesIn the episodes season one episode one they said that Celestia controls the sun and they said that Luna controls the moon and stars so she made her own escape
1 likeIt could be twilight she has a star but also Starlight seems more to control the stars
0 likesCELESTIa is the sun right but the sun is a Big Star ⭐️
1 likeOkay. In real life, the stars are too dim to be seen in daylight. No one controls the stars in the MLP universe. They never set. They're always just there.
0 likesi think it is either Celestia or the tree of harmony or BOTH but i know that the stars converged together
0 likesI feel this is a little obvious but, Starswirl used to control the sun which kinda counts as I star ( at least in our world) and his name is STARswirl, maybe that’s the reason. Unless you wanna say the 4-stars swirled there way on over to the moon and help nightmare moon escape, but, it’s just a theory.
0 likesYou saw it wrong, twilight accidentally released Luna from the moon, something that controls the stars? Twilight cutie mark is stars.
0 likesCelestia controls the stars Celestia is the princess of the Sun the sun is just a star that is the closest to Earth are also known as Equestria I think she may have released Nightmare Moon aligning the stars in place I think the tree of Harmony played a very big role in the 9 seasons of My Little Pony friendship is Magic.
0 likesIt could might be starswirl... Like stars are in his name... So it could really be him...setting a test for the other ponies.
0 likesMaybe the stars don't move because of the sun's light
1 likewell that luna/nightmare moon was sent to the moon doesn't mean that she didn't exist. Plus Celestia ruled only earth rotation so that means luna can accumulate power and herself back. I think stars weren't the ones who moved. Luna waited on the perfect position of moon and Earth. Something like an eclipse of sun or moon. I think that Celestia had a theory that Twilight can be one of the spirits of elements of harmony because of her cutie mark. And as we know Twilight was sent to ponyville to find other spirits. It was luck or destiny. Well, Celestia was teached by Starswirl so he could tell her about the spirits. BUT also he and other pillars were surprised when they noticed that the main six is connected to elements of harmony. Maybe he teached her the spell "predict future". So no magic just physics
0 likesMabye Celestia's secretly corrupt and released nightmare as part of a complicated plan for world domination.
0 likesI've always thought that
0 likesCelestia = sun
Luna = moon
Cadence = planets
Twilight = stars
She does have stars as a cutie mark....... 🤔🤔
But maybe its Shining Armour. He has stars on his flank but he's not an Alicorn. Maybe..... 🤔🤔
Are there planets in equestria?? Probably not......
she was gonna be released if you remember the first episode
0 likeswell, we still don't know if Clestia did it or didn't but on the other hand it could have done it? We still don't know, what if the creaters of my little pony are hiding something from us!
0 likesBut the Shadowbolts were just a shapeshifted Nightmare Moon
0 likesWhat if it wasnt the tree but the star swirld and his group? To be fair they where never actually gone in the first place. If i watch the episodes closely u can some parts where his group came into play without having to be there. He is known as one of the best unicorns in my little pony. But i do have one question.... How did the tree get there in the first place and gain so much intelligent? How are the elements created at all? how long is the tree been there? How does it know who is going to use it the elements next? .... Ok so mb more then one question but still if a tree Harmony has a big role in this whole show how did it get to where it was in the first place to gain these roles?
1 likeI thinks Nightmare moon was trying to make the elements
1 likeThe sun is a star and it moves so a star does move!
0 likesStar swirl did it.even tho he was in limbo we saw that limbo is sort of in stars, a powerful unicorn Like him might be able to cast a spell like that.and take a look at the book “the journal of the two sisters” in the book star swirl talks to Luna about moveing the stars!!!they r probably related??!( or starry told his pet tree to do it ;) ).
0 likesBut the sun is a star.. So if she can control THAT star, she can control every star right..?
0 likesi think maybe it was a creature similar to the tantabus that turned princess luna into nightmare moon!
0 likesTwilight did
0 likesThe ‘stars’ will aid in her escape
Twilight Did this without noticing
This was the elements Doing aswell,
They Use A part of twilights magic
And release her,To Grab her attention and take
Their new owners for a spin
mmm its rlly obvious that celestia did it tho, I actually rewatched episode 1 and the fact that spike said that celestia was real busy but was celestia busy and ready to release Luna/Nightmare Moon? She also wanted Twilight to make friends in order to stop Nightmare moon, the only thing im getting at is that Celestia is a hypocrite, on discord. Celestia was testing and hoping and trusted Twilight to make friends and defeat Luna, I hope that makes sense ;-;
0 likesPAARAGRAPH THEORY ALERT!
0 likesI saw a comment about blueblood and it got me thinking. If the starswirl alicorn transformation theory is correct, maybe their sibling got overlooked because stars dont move. I was gooing to say that maybe he died off but blueblood is a bit toor ecent for that. AND the stars alligned. But it is very possible that a third sibling would control the stars.
Thrid siblings for sun and moon gods/goddesses are not uncommon. Though what they control varies. Like how Eos, (Sibling of Helios and Sselene in greek myths.) controls sunsets and sunries, I would not be suprised at all if a third more secretive sibling shows up. Maybe that sibling is even starswirl? Though he is older and doesnt appear to have wings, he might be the people's alicorn aswell as the Alicorn of the sars, just got transformed later on and hides the wings to fiit in more with the average pony? You might think it disproves the starswirl theory, but it doesnt. I think that starswirl was acctually the oldest siblings and always dabbled in magic. But his ounger sisters, being his siblings were clumsy and accidentally got affected by the potions, making them the first Alicorns. Starswirl wanted to live a normal life for as long as possible but eventually he had to become an alicorn in order nott to die and leave his sisters in grief. He made the spell to make more Alicorns to ake the people's Alicorn not be in. His sisters acknowledged and respected him wanting to live a normal life and abiding by his wishes did not feature him in the history books. Starswirl even has the word star in his name! And about blueblood, nothing ever said he had to be an immediate nephew, he could be extended family.
Hope you like my gramatically incorrect crazy heory! :)
(You probably wont but if you do use this comment please screenshot it and use it in the video talking about it. I would love to see this theory taken in or debunked.)
(This would also explain why starswirl is such a mysterious figure.)
Lunas cutie mark is a moon,Celestias cutie mark is a sun,and Twighlights cutie mark is a star,which means,Twilight controls the stars......I Guess?
0 likesIts the Tree of Harmony! The Spirit/Tree of Harmony is the real villain here!
0 likesMaybe Star Swirl was the pony who release Nightmare Moon.
0 likesI think Fransiscorn,Queen galaxia or king cosmos can control the stars.
0 likesY’all seem to forget the sun is a star
0 likesWell I have a suspicion about something else. There is a twilight zone in the ocean. Right? Maybe twilight is a sea pony maybe that’s why she was so interested in the Chrystal that turned them into mer pony’s . Maybe there is another race of pony’s. Plz make a video on that
0 likesWhen the mane six defeat nightmare moon the elements were big stone balls when celestia banished luna the elements were jewels now did the elements turn into stone ball???
0 likesCelestia is connected to the sun. The sun is a star
0 likesI think Celestia and Luna have a third sister and she set nightmare moon free and Celestia informed that third sister to release her
0 likesStar swirl planted the tree of harmony the elements stayed in the tree when celestia banished Luna elements were in their castle now did the elements get there???
0 likesBut the sun ☀️ is a star ⭐️ itself!?
0 likesStar light glimmer is who I think is moving the stars like think about it she has a star in cutie mark plus her name is STAR light glimmer and see how the stars glimmered more then the others just like her name applies and she does know a lot of magic!To think more about the cutie mark there is magic under the star in the cutie mark seeming to push it down kinda like when nightmare moon came too the series doesn't it make sense?...Or maybe I'm just over thinking....
1 likeWait so this means…
0 likesTHE MOON ISNT A SOLID
Yes but she still had no right to scold discord if anything went arie discord could just fix it
0 likesThere could be a other pony that controle the stars and that maybe has banished into space or something like that yeah that’s my theory
0 likesDo you think laurn has an oc if so she in univers could have set both nightmare and Luna free
0 likesMaybe StarSwearl can control the stars hes name have a thought moon stars
0 likesMaybe the moon bailed out luna
1 likeI like that funny song at the beggining, it makes I laugh😂😂😂
0 likesLuna controls the moon I think because I've heard
0 likesWhat if there were a big twist and night mare moon was controlling the woods stars...
0 likesThe moon comes with stars who raises the moon but it wouldn't make send
0 likesYou do realize that the sun is a star right
0 likesOk so I know that this is booty but I have always thought that twi had a connection to the stars
0 likesI think celesta did it
0 likesI think Twilight Sparkle controls the stars she knew it was the longest day of the 1000 years
0 likesYou’re one of my favorite Youtubers
0 likesMaybe it was Twighlight!
0 likes"I'm not just some dinner roll to hold you over"
0 likesTwilight should control stars
0 likesI saw an episode with Luna moving the stars
0 likesI think that princess celestia has a power she does not know (stars and sun)because they both have s in the beginning.
0 likesI know why she released nightmare moon remember how the title is called friendship is magic well so last year‘s friendship for Princess Luna made her her stronger for that day So she used her magic to move the stars and booM!!!'!'!!!!!!!!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesI think it was Nightmare Moon how helped herself escape. Bc the book said "the stars will help her ecsape" and Luna escepa in NM. I think she haved to wait then after 1000 years can her escepa. I dont have more anwers srry :( but if somone like this then thx.
0 likesBro,the sun IS a star!
0 likesIn the tweet it sayed who controls the sun moon and stars the only pony who has stars as a cutie mark istwilightssparkle.
1 likeSun is a STAR! so celestia could control 🌟 s
0 likesCan you make a video about how Twilight , Dash,Fluttershy, Rarity, Applejack, Pinkie came together
0 likesDID STARSWIRL CONTROL THEM!?
0 likesI think Princess Luna and Princess Celestia's dad raises the Stars
0 likesWait aren’t stars mini suns?
0 likesStar swirl it's literally in his name
0 likesI think Celestia and Luna have a third sister and she set nightmare moon free
0 likesI think she done that because she felt bad and she missed her sister
0 likesAt 2:22 you can see celestia's eyes all black... thought that looked cool
0 likesNobody controls the stars it was decteny. Because nightmare moon had to be out of the moon so that twilight would be friends with the mane 6 so the tree of harmonys elements would have bares a bit like the rainboom🌈 . Come on tree of harmony you have your name all over your self.
0 likesTwilights cutie mark has star’s around it so she can control the stars but she dose not know YET
0 likesI have a theory maybe it was star swrill because in his name there is star so
0 likesI know who controls the Stars it is Twilight Sparkle
1 likeBruh you can’t just make theories out of not much proof.
0 likesthe pony of shadows as his maicge still is there
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as you saide a bit
0 likesBut what is the sun...a star 🌟 that might help idk
0 likesIt was twilight sparkle who released nightmare moon yes sparkle and twilight is in her name and her cutie mark is a star
0 likesI think it is really Twilight Sparkle!!!!!
0 likesThe star are contol by twilight cuz she had a star cuti marks
0 likesMaby we can get some information about all of the Mane 6 maybe their secrets there's things that we don't know about the Mane 6 maybe we could try uncovering the secrets
0 likesI’m crying ;-; I Watch sawtooth when he was brony and now that I have found him I cryed he didn’t Change one single bit c:
0 likesI think it was clestia because she missed her sister .
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She is the one responsible for all
0 likesThink about twilight name. Her last name is sparkle, and what sparkles? 😁😁😁😁
0 likesIv done Alot of reserch on this topic and all i know is Celesta And Luna Parents, Were alicorns, of coarse but From what iv seen and herd from The father-Was Able to control Stars And galaxy/Moon- And her Mother Controls Well the sun And so on {I cant remember what she conrols Other then The sun!} And anyways-Celesta Is like 1000 Years old, There for, Dont alicorns Live Infantry? I mean It could be her Dad-Could Have moved them and controlled them- I mean It Makes sense to me...What do you all think?
0 likesStarlight! That control it!
0 likesI think possibly it was nightmare her self if not many luna or star swirl
0 likesI think it was star swirl maybe
0 likesI think Star swirl the bearded baid Out Night mare moon 🧐🧐🧐😐
0 likesThe sun is a star.
0 likesI love your vids !
0 likesto me, i have a feeling that starswirl the bearded was behind this, i mean his cutie mark does consist of 4 stars
1 likeHER mother why you ask? well luna rises the moon and her sister the other but im not sure but they say there mother rise the sun and moon befor them right . THE repliy said who rise the sun AND THE moon AND the stars thats what i think. the sisters only play one part only so im not sure
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and i thing um twilights cutie mark
0 likesStars move is Night time sawtooth waves
0 likesYa sure it’s not a fraud?
0 likesIf you everything it’s Luna she couldn’t do it because she was in the moon well actually nightmare moon
0 likes#Celestia
1 likeIf Celestia trapped nightmayormoon she can releas her
0 likesIdk grogar? Discord? The sky the moon? Stars?
0 likesTwilight her cutiemark has some stars on it
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesmaybye luna controls the stars
0 likesLuna is Celestias sister she want her to come back and she knew 6 ponies Will turn her into luna.
0 likesStarlight control the star cuz her name from star
0 likesHow did you get your cutie mark
0 likesthe sun is a star
0 likesI KNOW WHO IT IS IF LUNA CONTROLS THE MOON AND CELESTIA CONTROLS THE SUN AND WHO CONTROLS THE STARS ITS FREAKING TWILIGHT SPARKLE LOOK AT HER CUTIE MARK I dont know if im right but I think its twilight sparkle
0 likesMaybe it’s true that Celestia is it ? 😑😑😑😑😑
0 likesI think Celestia and Luna mom control le stars mening she is the queen of the univers?... idk im just gussing
0 likesStars are not moving (Sun is a star to🌝🌝🌝.)
0 likesBut two ponies have stars as cutie Marks twilight and shining armor but twilight is the princess of friendship so wut if she controls the stars or shinning armor I don't wut I'm thinking😭😭
1 likeThis came out on my birth day thx sawtooth
0 likesSo luna is her sis so she has free nightmare moon
1 likeWho is celestias parents amd who is controling sun and moon before luna and celestia
0 likesAlso who I think controlled the stars is well pinkie pie I mean she's like a pony vers of discord right so maybe alocorn or not what if it wasn't the tree that brout the mane 5 together what if it was pinkie pie think about it ever since pink saw the sonic rainboom she got he magic and happyness in her life but what about before when she wasn't happy
0 likesI think a lost alicorn
0 likescough**cough the sun is a star
0 likesSun is a star
0 likesAnd why is star swirl cutie mark moon and stars
0 likesHello Sebastian does technically control the store because their dad was the protector of the galaxy stars am I am I getting something connected
0 likesOhh i know the real answer nightmare moon was the one the one grogar maybe true but maybe nightmaremoon/luna control grogar's chamber so grogar free her/nightmare moon to destroyed equstria remember that l the episode of begining of the end the about creatures running wild destroying equstria yeah maybe grogar did it . Remember cozy glow sucks magic that was grogar's chances to escape from the moon. Case close. Bro hoof
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So yeah he escape that way
1 likeAnd btw am ten years soo pls like pretty pls
1 liketroll faced celestia
0 likesI think princess salestia did free luna bicous the criator seas who controls the stars... If the stars in our world is like fier bols what if they are eswell in the MLP world and princess salestia is capabe in contoling the sun what diference woud it be if she woud control the stars exept for it to be night
0 likesTwilight she has a star cuti mark
0 likesWhat if it's twilight she haves stars on her cutie mark and she can control the stars but she never new that she can release nightmare moon I was just guessing but I have another thing that can explain how the stars moved the tree of harmony it haves a star in the middle and released nightmare moon to let the 6 twilight sparkle pinkie pie rarity rainbow dash flutters shy and apple jack to become friends maybe maybe or it could be that old man I forgot his name the one who planted the tree oh and watched this video late bye love you all
0 likesIt starlight glimmer :/
0 likesT hgt e sun is a star therefore celestia can control the stars
0 likesWhere do you store so I stay in the room and dad controls the stars and galaxy
0 likesStar swirl!
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What if he did it. It's IN His name.
0 likesPls make video of starlight and cadence future
0 likesI think he was
0 likesDuh control stars STAR SWIRL
0 likesMaybe its just destiny or mother nature wait... FLUTTERSHY! jk haha lol ( ya know mother nature ..come on!
0 likesi know who move it it's [ 3:40 ] in that all times but the [ Element Magic Tools ] what that moves LOL XD
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i think first time so He He
0 likesReleased what?
0 likesWait wait wait why is twilight sparkles cutie mark stars
0 likesBut we're did celestial go
0 likesDAYBREAKER
0 likesIt’s Did score
0 likesi tink that starlihgt glimer moeft the stars becais look at her quti mark
0 likesI have just noticed that you changed the channels name
0 likesStar's ar suns and hu haw a sunchin in The name Sunchinsimer and was a studen in princess chelestias class. Sooooooo if sunchan if she cant haw sun or moon then stats and then was she a villen. 🎆
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1 likei have a theory SPIKE let her free heehehehe jk jk
0 likesT r a i t e r? 😰😠
1 likeO my god!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
0 likesIt is true
0 likesIt is true
0 likesIt is true
0 likesan unknowne pony
0 likesLauren Faust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesShe did it coz she belive twilith do not mind. That will turn here back coz yeah its been years duh oh yeah hi hahahaa
0 likesGogard
0 likesWho is doing that Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
0 likesWhy?
0 likesMy guess is: (spoilers)
0 likesSo since celestia knew that twilly would make friends she knew discord would take the gamble with tirek and the others and she knew starswirl would come back so she went to limbo (can’t take that name seriously) and asked starsswirl in secret to control the stars (continuing to iistarxp) starswirl released nightmare moon and since celestia knew all the stuff that would happen she didn’t do anything welp that’s my theory >:3
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0 likesStarswil
0 likesI now huw freed luna her bf
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤑😏
0 likesNice
0 likescool
0 likesI Don’t know can you tell me
0 likesShut up, it’s obviously Celestia
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maybe? it's not that simple
0 likesWimper
0 likes0:00
0 likes😯
0 likes💖📝💝😘
0 likesI mean older
0 likesWho plays among us
1 likeI was born in 2014
0 likesAre jan moving
1 likeI will be there at nine I only see eight
0 likesoOPsiE
0 likesWhat Nightmare mood?
0 likesThis is a filetrs
0 likes😵💫😑😱🐴
0 likesEmoji Emoji Emoji Emoji
0 likesI think because she was tired of doing both jobs and she must've missed her sister who wouldn't miss her own sister
2 likesI always thought it was pretty suspicious of Celestia to not care or be that surprised of nightmare moon coming back
0 likesHonestly it could have been Zecora! There is so little known about the Zebra lands and what powers they might possess. Zecora seems to always know what to do and why. Perhaps this is because she has visions or something similar to Celestia. It's possible that she and other Zebras chanted something and did some sort of magic, after all she does seem to have vudu stuff in her house so I wouldn't put it past her. (I don't know much about vudu so this could be completely wrong sorry.)
0 likesOk but if she did do this with other Zebra then where are they? Well it's possible Zecora hadn't moved away from her home land quite yet, wait... Why DID she move?? Hmm let me think.... To keep an eye on twilight perhaps? Maybe because she in fact knew of her future?
Ok so say that zebras can possibly do this, how and why would she have visions anyway? Its said zebras live in a far away land, and seemingly very different. What if Star swirl and his team got the seed for the tree of harmony FROM ZEBRAS?! Think about it; they planted it but with what seed? From where?
My idea may be flawed but its at least worth considering.
I think the stars lining up and freeing Nightmare moon was none other than the tree of harmony! But Celestia also did play a role in this. She knew that the tree was doing this because she has a connection with the tree. That’s why she said she saw the signs of Luna’s return. Also, she has been waiting for 1000 years to find twilight who can control the element of magic! That’s why she made the school of magic. And somehow, she was psychically working with the tree and not knowing it but also knowing it!? ( sorry that’s a lot!!!!)
1 likeWell it’s either Luna controls the moon & the stars or there might be another alicorn princess that controls the stars that they never mentioned in the show!
0 likesOne headcannon in fanfiction i liked was that Luna and Celestia do have the power to move stars, but moving both sun and moon Celestia could not spear the energy , and by the time Luna returns ponies have learned to use the stars as is, moving them would have been a problem.
0 likesI love the Tree of Harmony theory. Also it could have been true that it was just a fake Lauren Faust account and not actually the true creator of MLP.
0 likesI think I understand how Lauren Faust meant it and how Celestia did see the sign afterall.
0 likesCelestia saying she saw the signs of Nightmare Moons return would not mean that she watched the stars move to aid in her return, I say Celestia did move them by her magic.
The signs Celestia saw would be the young mane 6 growing up and being ready to deal with and reform Nightmare moon to be her little sister Luna again.
Also we know Twilight was Celestias best student and Celestia always worked on preparing her to become the new leader of Equestria some day.
So Celestia freeing Nightmare Moon to test Twilight and as next step on Twily's way to becoming a Princess is a logical step to take imo.
And about that book Twilight read in episode 1:
Who says that it wasnt Celestia who wrote that book to give it to her chosen student when they are ready to take on the task? :P
I think Celestia controls the star as sun is also a star. However this time it was not Celestia.It was something more powerful that could control em.
0 likesI can follow faust :3 since the sisters can control the sun and moon it makes sense that they might hold power over the stars specially Tia since the sun itself is a star
0 likesone of the animated episodes it shows that Celeste told Luna that she was going to raise the stars for her so Luna did it an And in a episode it’s said the that some of nightmare moons magic stayed so she can use that magic to aid the stars to her escape
1 likeWell, she asked who controls the moon and stars and technically Luna does but is there a possibility that she did it from outside the moon or before she got imprisoned?
0 likesWhat if Discord trapped in stone somehow gathered enough energy to release Nightmare Moon? Think of it like this. He controls reality and can change the land and the sky at will, so it would not be a stretch that after 1,000 years without Luna could have given him some control back. And he can hear so he would know what happened to Luna and Celestia being alone. It took both sisters to seal him and then the Mane Six to redo the spell, but what if having one be gone weakened the spell just a bit to allow him some magic. All he needed to do was wait for Chaos to come to him and release him from stone.
0 likesI think Celestia is telling a white lie: She saw the signs, as in, she recognized the unicorn that was fit to become her successor, and just in the time, the prophecy foretold. We know, that she later specified, that she knew Twilight needed other ponies with whom to wield the elements, and that's why she sent Twilight to Ponyville.
0 likesIn controlling the heavenly bodies, I think the stars are a part of that. I truly believe, that Celestia set Nightmare Moon free, because she knew, that the ponies, who could do, what she had been unable to, had emerged.
She probely assumed that enough time would have passed that she had calmed down and could work out there problems ...i mean i guess it worked
0 likesI think your right about Celestia, I believe that Celestia really let Nightmare Moon escape because as you can see in the comment of the creator of MLP he personally EMPHASIZES the ability that the pony have who let Nightmare Moon escape and It just lead to one pony and that is CELESTIA.
0 likesIf the stars can be only seen at night but need the sun to be seen then a supporter of Luna and Celestia or a Protege of Luna and Celestia must be on the thrown also it must be an alicorn and that role could go to Flurry Heart or Twilight
0 likesi believe that Twilight Sparkle controls the stars. just at the time of the first episode Twilight doesn't know she does. Think about it, Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon, so why can't Twilight control the stars?
0 likesI think it's possibel that Celestia bringed back Nightmare Moon. I mean the creator said „who controls the sun, the moon and the stars?" and the sun is a star too.
0 likesremember the ram got trapped in the stars well maybe celestia managed to communicate with him and ask specifecly this “its time” also explains the fact when she said “i saw the signs”
0 likesI believe that no being caused the stars to align, and it was all through a calculation of astrology that determined that the pattern and Nightmare Moon's escape would happen after 1000 years.
0 likesMy proof: in the episode where Starlight Glimmer goes back and stops Rainbow Dash from preforming the Sonic Rainboom, the Mane 6 never met and never became friends. One of the times Twilight comes back to the present, Nightmare Moon was ruler of Equestria. Why would Celestia or the Tree of Harmony cause the stars to align and help Nightmare Moon escape if they know there would be no Mane 6 to stop her?
I KNOW!
0 likeslets put some logic here
The sun IS a "star" but its very close to us and we can see it clearly, so all the other millions of stars are suns. So my opinion is that celestia was always able to move the stars but she never did so they disappears at the day before sun gives ups light like the reality etc. so when she had to release nightmare moon she used those 4 stars.
What do you think about my opinion?
This might sound crazy but what if TWIGHLIGHT accidentally freed Nightmare moon that night she was looking up at the sky? OwO
1 likeWait what if there was an alicorn living Secret Who could control the stars. Who was asked by Celestia to show a sign on that very day.
0 likesI have a theory, Umm there was a official book published called the journal of the two sisters (yes that one) and in it it said that starswirl moved the stars, so maybe it was starswirl who released her?
0 likesWhat if Discord freed Nightmare Moon?After all,He's the lord of chaos.It makes sense that he would be able to control the stars,
0 likesI like to think it's either starswirl or it's sunset shimmer. It's easy to rule out starswirl because he was trapped in limbo but what about sunset? Her name kinda relates to the stars as when the sunsets there are shimmers in the sky. Sunset shimmer might've done this to over through Celestia or to win her over. Also, I think this explains her cutie mark, why it's a sun like Celestia's but not quite. This world may be mythological, but that doesn't mean that the science remains. They're still sun's, but different versions of their sun. So, in short, Celestia controls our sun's while sunset controlled the stars before going to the human world.
0 likesOkay so this might be a stupid theory but here goes, since Celestia has always been day and Luna night, I think that Luna has a part in NightMare Moons escape. She somehow saw that Celestia United the main 6 so she used her powers of night to use the stars in order to aid nightmare moons escape
0 likesdo you think they will be making a season 9? i cause i really hope so !!
0 likesthis is my theory. while nightmare moon was on the moon, it studies how to move the star. then she wait's for the longest day of the year to escape. because i think thr four stars only appears on that day. #imnotreallysure
0 likesWhy do I feel like it's starlight glimmer or stars swirl the bearded.I mean I just have a feeling that starlight glimmer is the 5th alicorn.And surely starswirl is powerful enough to control the stars.not forgetting he also tutored the sisters meaning he could have slight intention.We know starswirl was like a father or a mentor to the sisters.He could have decided luna had enough punishment for a sin her true self didn't even commit.Also a theory suggests that starswirl witnessed this fight between the sisters but didn't stop them cuz it was destiny and all.so do u agree? Also starlight must be an alicorn.She if my starswirl theory was wrong then she must be the Princess of stars.i mean all of the other ones are kinda occupied ya know. Sun,moon,love,friendship,and probably stars. Also I really need a season 10 or a u know... a continuation series.WHO AGREES?!!.THANK YOU FOR URGENT TIME AND PATIENCE
0 likesEDIT:I just forgot he was in limbo but after all he isn't famous for nothin. Maybe he was so powerful he bent the rules of limbo?Or who said anything about no power in limbo, maybe u have power except it's not normal it's discord style maybe? I dunno do u think my theory is correct?
If the sun and moon were moved by celestia and luna and before that a powerful group of unicorns. But who were moving these two celestial objects before that time frame? If nothing were moving them, then something must have happened to let them have lost that power to move by themselves, but the stars have not lost that power. So what power has the stars have to be able to move be themselves and not with magic power?
0 likesShanessa:I'm pretty sure it was twilight because the sun is a star and her dad's cutie mark is a christen moon. If someone had one of these ideas just know we had the same idea
0 likesI think the reason why Celestia ‚helped‘ her sister out of the moon was..
0 likesFirst theory: it was something like Luna was grounded?
Or...
second theory: celestia is the queen and she knows everything about her kingdom and so she did it on purpose because she knew twilight was ready and found her magic I mean I can’t explain but isn’t that just orfjjoejedjkwjhfkjeckhdckjd she found her friends and that is the magic she needed for the elements to trigger 🤷🏼♀️
I am very bad at explaining but yeah bai bai ^^
It's Celestia because she wanted her sister back and she also said that I knew you had the magic inside to defeat her
0 likesThink of somebody that causes chaos and was turned to stone but was released that is who put the stars in the right place
0 likesGuys I think I kind of get it going to the fact he thought of the tree of Harmony did it could be the Twilights came the tree set her free to see if they were the right one to rule Equestria
0 likesBut luna also controls the sun and the moon so luna couldve done it but took a long time to realize how to align them
0 likesI think A lost princess of the stars set her free because mabye they used to work together to control the night
1 likeI just like to think that there is maybe a 3rd sister (or brother) that can control the stars
0 likesI think the stars were actually angels, they set nightmare moon free
0 likesThe flag of the sun and moon had thousands of stars allingend in a row
0 likesthe real reason is because celestial banishment spell was 1000 years of lasting so It wore of and celestia could see what's about to happen
0 likesI have a my little pony game were you can get the ponies and you can get the princesses and when you click Celestia it says “Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria,responsible for raising the sun,moon, and STARS” but this was a long time ago before they changed it so I hope this is helpful.
1 likeRemeber, we dont know who Celestia and Luna'a parents are. If Celestia is the princess of of her worlds star then there could be a possibility there are other ponies who look after other stars. Remeber Earth is the only place we've found that can be habitable naturally without implantation. Equestria is Earth in their world. So in other galaxies their could be a possibility there are ponies who make sure those stars do what they do. Keep their galaxies in line, keep balance in the universe, create new planets due to the gravitational pull and cause gasses or plants to combine making new ones. And most stars are made up of star dust, the remnants of past stars. The moon was made of debri from when Earth was first being made. Hence so, they have to have a relitive that would allow Luna to be the Moon Princess instead of a star like Celestia. So perhaps their mom is another star? And their dad/partner is a meator creature? That's why Celestia knew about the signs with the stars, shes made of the remnants of past stars, so why cant see be able to communicate in some way with past stars? All stars are connected. So maybe she could even communicate with present stars that set Luna free? Maybe the tree of harmony is made of left over star dust that couldnt be manifested into a host. So it absorbed into a tree and became the tree of harmony, so latching onto brony notions theory, it could know and was able to set in motion the elemants of harmony.
0 likes(This is minor and isnt important.)
With prince blueblood, he is their nephew. So they need a sibling to be able to give them a nephew. But if their sun and moon how could they have a son? And why would his name be blueblood that doesnt fit the theme of the princesses? Their sibling could be the pony that keeps nature alive. Like plants and stuff. And itd fit the theme because Luna imade of debri. That made the earth. Making Celestia the oldest the missing sibling the middle child and Luna the youngest. Prince bluebloods name has nothing to do with plants it seems but remeber nature made the first little parasites that turned into our animalls now with the cambrian explosion and stuff. So he could very well just be a simple prince representing what his mother made. He is simply just there to observe and report back to his mother whom Im guessing is floating around Earth/Equestria.
Maybe Luna freed herself?? Think about it, stars only appear at night, which is when Luna does her part in being a princess. Another example : If you look at the dream world, where Luna can walk into any dream, the paths are made of stars, and she can walk on the star-paths. So, she could have just used the stars to get out of the moon
0 likesDUDE. IT WAS TWILIGHT FROM THE FUTURE. she is given the ability to control the sun, the moon, and the stars.
0 likesI didn't know celestia controled the stars
0 likesOr the new princess flurry heart the princess of the stars
1 likeI think when celesta said I saw sighs of nightmare moons return she meant twilight and her friend
0 likesSince twi becoming the mane six member was her destiny than celestia did this she plan to release nightmare moon to bring the mane six together since she can't do it because she tried bu she just put her on the moon and she knows that the mane six control the elements of harmony so she can't
0 likesCelestia did free nightmare moon because the sun is a star so she controls the stars too.
0 likesHold on..... What will happen to the counselling a friendship after twilight's friends die? Because don't normal ponies tend to die quicker then
0 likesAlicorns? .-_-.
Celestia can control the star in the my little pony mobile game in the celestia line say she control the sun,noon and the star
1 likeDidnt you se that the stats wear formed like Twilights cutie mark? But why wod Twilight Control the stars?
1 likebut how did nightmare moon escape even if Celestia dident find a group yet.
0 likesStarswirl he created the tree, and controlled the sun stars and moon at one time.
0 likesIsn't the sun a star? So celestia would have been just moving a star.
0 likesIt could be twilight becuase she has no exact role of controlling anything.sure she is the princess of friendship but it could be more to here abillitys than just friendship
0 likesI think that celestia did control the stars, because maybe in the day the makes the stars disappear and everybody knows that she missed her sis... but I guess that would make her a liar... she does has some secrets anyway... so why just not deep that a secret? And also she went away somewhere whe nightmare moon came back, and maybe she needed to be somewhere private to move the stars because it had a lot of power and some guard would have noticed. Idk... what do you think?
0 likesOr well she cast some sort of spell to make them last longer?
0 likesCelestia is really just so I believe that since she did banish her sister only 1000 years so she must free her after Luna's time was served
0 likesBut think about it.. when celestia vanished Luna to the moon.. she controlled BOTH moon, stars, and sun..
0 likesWhat if Starlight released Nightmare Moon i mean her cutie mark is technically a shooting star
0 likesmaybe someone is controlling the stars and they don't know that they are
0 likesWho controls le stars..?!
2 likes(Im wondering it's twilight LoL)
the sun is a star so maybe it was selecctia after all
0 likesI have a theory what if each star represents a dream no one kontrols them but there there
0 likesBut Luna is the princess of the night so even though Celestia couldn’t control the night she still sung a lullaby to Luna every night for the past 1000 years could she give luna enough power to still control the night with the moon and starts but enough to escape her sisters trapping spell but with the that particular night being what’s considered a powerful one have given Luna enough power combined with her anger have given help in her escape and able to come back and seek revenge on her own sisters blindness in not realising that luna’s work for a making such a beautiful night for them to enjoy but they just slept through it instead like it was irrelevant to them
0 likesIt’s just my theory
Technically the sun is a star
0 likesI mean the sun is a star. And sense no one is mentioned to control the other stars in the sky it could allud to that
0 likesI think the stars were.... Might be an Angel😅
1 likeTbh celestia is the right way because it makes sense. She wanted to her sister back and when she knew there was a mane 5 and sending twilight would help so it just makes sense for celestia seeing as the tree of harmony didn't have the elements at that time
0 likesSawtooth waves: who could have controlled the Stars?
0 likesMe: is there a secret other alicorn!!!???!!!???
I think that a secret pony or fan made released nightmare moon to teach the mane six maybe.like a god of the ponys.
0 likesI think Luna freed her self,cause remember the time when applejack said granny used to tell her not alll nightmaremoons magic was gone I think that was the group of stars
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And if u ask why just in the thousand years she was free maybe there's a magical lock that prevented her escape until the thousand year
0 likesThe Tree of Harmony, The Princess of Stars
0 likesit points to Celestia because stars are basic the Sun
0 likesWell I know I am late to answer but celestia Maybe waited until someone was able to change her sister back not banishing her so and when nightmare moon it wasn't long after twilight came to pony vel so celestia was one of the pony's who know so it is just my thoughts
0 likesI feel like star swirl controls the stars...
0 likesCan a male pony be a alicorn?
0 likesI know who control the stars it’s Starlight Starlight or Twilight at Starlight or toilet because they have started cutie marks Veranda totally speaking but not the life she has like a blue stone medium or something and Twilight go to many stars that’s why she should be
0 likesBronynotion:who controls the stars
0 likesMe: it's starlestia
The show ended but theres still a lot of question
0 likesMaybe it's stars swirl the bearded
0 likesI guess 😅💫
Celestia's further control the stars
0 likesCelestia:sun
0 likesLuna:moon
Twilight:sun and moon (because the word twilight means both day and night)
Starlight:Stars???
Well the sun is a star… So……
0 likesCelestia helped luna escape bc celesta controls sun but the sun is a star.
0 likesI think that the old ruler of the crystal empire we didn't really get much of the crystal empire past before king sobra took over or there could be the princess of distraction
0 likesMaybe it was starlight glimmer and Sun set shimmer since they we both evil before twilight became an alicorn and they are both very powerful?
0 likesOr it's possible that Nightmare Moon set herself free, since Celestia can raise the sun and moon, wouldn't it make sense that Luna could raise the sun? So as time passed, the magic holding her on the moon got weaker, and she was eventually able to free herself. Or Celestia was reinvigorating the spell each day/year at the sSummer Sun and when she found twilight, she stopped reinvigorating it, waiting for the spell to wear off, allowing nightmare moon to escape.
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I mean, it DOES happen on the summer sun, so Celestia just. Didn't do anything. She always saw these signs, every year, but each year she prevented it UNTIL twiilight and her future accomplices were found and able to be brought together. This year, she just didn't stop anything. She didn't release or promote anyone's escape, so she would have seen the signs as well as anyone, without doing anything. But she knew that the true elements of Harmony would have a more permanent fix, as well as bringing back her sister.
0 likesShe may have also known, 1000 years ago, what to look for in the bearers of the elements, and written that book herself. So she would have known when it would be time to let the spell holding moon die.
0 likesI think:
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I think Princess Celestia did it because she knew that Princess Twilight can do it but she had to find out so she did that I think she's cuckoo or she was sleepwalking or Nightmare Moon took control of her body
0 likesAm I the only one who thinks that twilight is the one one controls the stars cause of her city mark
0 likesThis is just a Theory but what if it was Celestia and Lunas Dad? Or it could be star swirl the bearded
0 likesDUH ITS MAGIC THE MOON MIGHT HAVE BEEN MOVING AND NOT THE STARS OR IT MUST HAVE PULLED THE STARS TOWARDS IT AND WHO WAS IN THE MOON LUNA AND TECHNICALLY ITS MAGIC! EQUASTERIA ISNT IN EARTH ITS IN A COMPLETE DIFFERENT GALAXY CAUSE FOR ONCE NO AIR IN SPACE HOW COULD SHE BREATH !
1 likemaybe is controlling the stars is flurry harts destiny
1 likeHim: says J.K. Rowling
0 likesMe: Wait wait wait wait wait wait - WHAT
Actually Grogar was discord...watch the Ending of the end episode
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesThats the queston who controls the stars well celestia
Plot twist: It was Trixie all along
0 likesIt was Celestia because what is the what is the sun a star so it makes sense that Celestia did it
0 likesCelestia controlled the stars cause is the sun a star yep
0 likesTwilight did it sun moon and twilight would've stars
0 likessun is a star and luna controls the stars and moon
0 likesI hate it cause on Apple TV u have to pay for EACH episode of mlp (my little pony)
1 likewhat about future twilight?!
0 likesWait are stars not Sun's just far away? And who control sun???
0 likesStar swirl the bearded controlled the stars!
0 likesWait, Twighlight Sparkle ;-; I feel like that rings a bell somewhere
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Edit: I feel like this goes somewhere sense Twighlight helped Luna and Celestia raise the sun and set the moon in season 9 and the stars are smaller than the moon and sun, and Twighlight is shorter than Luna and Celestia. But it doesn’t make much sense but it fits somewhere :>
0 likesLuna reformed herself not the mane six and celestia did not reform for luna either
0 likesMaybe it’s Twilight sparkle
1 likeI know who did that Luna dad he has stares for a cutie mark too
0 likesStarlight glimmer controls the stars !!!
0 likesI don't think so. I think Grogar Realeased Night mare moon
0 likes"There are no toilets in equestria"
1 likeinsert Apple Jack coming out of an outhouse in 'The last Roundup'
Luna is the princess of the night stars are a part of the night she is not only controlling the moon
0 likeswhat was luna doing in the moon
0 likesThis is really dumb but I think twilight did it
0 likesCelestia did an OoPsIe
1 likeIf that mane six defeated nightmare moon with the elements of harmony why didn’t nightmare moon become Princess Luna when Princess celestial used the elements of harmony
0 likesLuna control the moon.and stars. but when she was sent to the moon celestial ruled day and night. WATCH cantersoft video of luna
0 likesI think luna free her self think obout it we only see stars when the moon rises which mean luna is kinda controlling the stars so she is the queen of stars so to speak and she said to her dear freinds when she was traped GET ME OUT OF HERE and they listen to there queen and free her
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Or onother thing she said LOK AT THE PATTERN OF THE STARS who has stars on there mark? Four to be exact in the axect pattern?
0 likesThe pillars and the leader of the pillars fact they planted the tree
0 likesMaybe it was night mare moon bc she Co trols the night and what is with the night? THE STARS so that means Luna/nightmare moon controlled the stars and uses them to open the door to the pony world ist that obvious nobody but nightmare moon or Luna did it with her last power Luna controls the night the night has stars so it could mean that Luna freed nightmare moon so she gets help from the fried s of equrestria or???
0 likesCould it be their parents I mean anything is possible
0 likesWhy do I think its starswirl?
0 likesI'm going to correct you on that Luna in what episode the episode the episode but video call far away it's Celestia and Luna singing the Stars Luna says I have to do the stars to is the first time that you've raised the Moon in the in one video the fall in the fall of the Crystal Empire Celeste this is the first time we ever see Nightmare Moon in a video Goosebumps actors about Nespresso she says to the person to King Sombra the same power you were the same power you were gifted with the same power I was in born with so why would it just stopped at the Moon why did have the Moon is Darth 2 do yes learn does control the Stars
0 likesWait a minute something isn't right maybe Lunas controlling the stars ksos one night is there the stars are always there
0 likesPlease sun is a star....... if you know Luna....wait a minute does that mean .........can star swirl be controlling stars....till now because no one was there..... make a video about theories who might control stars......there is huge confusion maybe star swirl is strong enough to control....THE STARS .....maybe just a theory
0 likes4:22 dude sun is a star
0 likesFor the stars i fink that starsfill is that Who bring nightmer moon to ponyvile but how? He was in limbo
0 likesI like how you use BIG🦾 words
0 likesok, I know it's late but 0:42 or 45 what if starlight glimmer or twilight controlled the stars? think of it starlight glimmer and twilight have the star mark...
0 likesI am confused but another is cadences husband he also has a star mark...
Lana she is the pricess of the night
0 likesLuna's mom if you thont know Luna's mom you thont know her name well if you thont know her name well her name is ...... Queen galaxia in galaxy ther r stars so luna 's mom freed Luna 🌙⭐🌌
1 likestar sworl controls the stars.
0 likesI think twilight did look at the episode again and see w
0 likesTWILIGHT CONTROLS THE STARS CUZ SHE HAS THE STAR CUTIE MARK AND SHE RELEASED NIGHTMARE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesIT WAS DESTINYYYYYY (reference to another video :D)
0 likesIf.you knew mlp.you would know rainbow dash brought them all to pony Ville with her sonic rain boom
0 likes4:26 THE SUN IS A STAR!😱😱😱😱😰😰😰😰
0 likesBut there s someone who can...
0 likesThink which pony has a ✨ cutymark I think it was the princess of frends tuielity sparkl
0 likesThe keretel berring the setar
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Wait Who controls the stars? Isn’t that Twilight’s Sparkles CUTIE MARK? STARSssssss!?! Just a theory I made ;) Edit sorry I just scrolled through the comments and saw someone with the same idea as me ;-:
0 likesi think star swirl.
0 likesI think is who controls the stars and maybe toilet because if she is to visit friendship she might have controlled the whole friendship even are you tomorrow is the star
0 likesWhat about starswirl
0 likesWhat if the Pokemon GOD Arceus set Luna free or even the Pokemon of death did it yes I mean yveltal or maby the got of transformers primus did it UvU we will never know
0 likesi love ur vids
0 likesUK 'star'swirl
0 likesIdk I just tot of that for some reason TwT
Twilight's words
0 likesand bloodmoon...
0 likesDark of make the star
1 likeWhat about zecora
0 likesThe sun 9s a star man
0 likeslol i love the thumbnail (I'm 13 and i love mlp is this normal TwT)
0 likesWhat song are you using in the background
0 likesQueen Galaxia or King Cosmos there parents
0 likesWhy did she do that.
0 likesIdk why bit i think starswirl controls the stars bahahahaha. I cant watch all of the mlp episodes so idk. I want starlight to be the princess of stars butttttttt nope.
0 likesKnow one sorry bro but didn't you know stars move over years and it has been 1000 years of nightmare moons vagueness thing and that's along time so the 4 stars might of moved over knowing that cellestea knew as a lot of people know this fact I think any way still love your thinking but we still need to thing in knowledge and things that can happen in the move and in real life so think about it and make a video about your thinking now that I've told you
1 likeluna does
0 likesTwilight sparkles future child that what i think
0 likesIt's twilight
0 likesHey Luna control moon and star and if Luna is gone soo ......
0 likesNo I didn’t have time for a long day and I didn’t know you had a good time and I’m sure you’re going to have a good time with your family or friends or whatever else I can do to you guys
0 likesI know selestia did it so twilite can learn friensip she did not wan friend and we all know thet twilite can not do it alone to bit nite mare moon she need friend to bit her but selestia know thet she dont want them so
0 likesWhy do they yeah it's only say the small words they don't talk very much just like the guy that says yep I don't remember what his name is in My Little Pony
0 likesTwilights parents
0 likesWHAT IS THIS SORCERY!!!!???
0 likesThat’s How I spell freaking
0 likesis luna
0 likesStar swirll control stars if you saw that when
0 likesWbo made the profecy?
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0 likesNowaan knchrool th staars luna doo wan she raays th moon th staars raays wath thmoon
0 likesis luna
0 likesI like memes
0 likesWhat about sunset shimmer the human world what happen to her
0 likesStarts ? Really
0 likesFringing treeee why
0 likesI like the grogar video to
0 likesI just want to say that I’m not going to make you happy ***gg
0 likesTwylight sparkles
0 likesIn hindi language please
0 likesWhy do you change your channel name?👁👅👁
0 likesYeet ya yoot
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0 likesI knoe ho pinses lonus dad was
0 likesGG LOL
0 likesno
0 likesWhat the heck
0 likesOr cadance
0 likesLuna
0 likesLuna
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0 likesXD didint even now ti hint contol the stars second hint enpier
0 likesThat's actually a good question I always assume that whoever was controlling the main celestial bodies could control the stars as well but maybe just maybe while Luna is controlling the move someone else is controlling the night.
1 likeRight in the last episode (I think) the three villains took discords magic, after wards they tried to use the magic. We can see how that went out, Cozy glow went absolutely crazy.
2 likesTirek then said that "no one can use discords magic" but when we first met tirek he betrayed discord and took his magic. He didnt go crazy so why couldnt he do it again.
And when we first met him he took it straight from him, does the bell do something to the magic to make it impossible to use?
I know this could just be bad writing but I think it is still rather interesting
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I think based on what we’ve seen Tirek absorbs up magical ENERGY while the more powerful Grogar’s Bell absorbs magical ESSENCE.
1 likeLike you said that Grogar actually turned into the constellation Aries (love that theory btw), what if the other constellations like Scorpio cancer or Virgo were actually people banished into the stars? Maybe even people who are famous in the equestrian history that died and now formed in constellations. Hell they can even be the pillars of Equestria. I like the idea of beauty being Virgo. And how every event that takes plays has six character, example the student six and pillars of equestria. And we AND Equestria have 12 astrological constellations.
1 likeI'm inclined to believe it was Celestia. Remember, Lauren Faust wrote the two episodes. The pilot episode(s), as in "the episode where not every idea is fully fleshed out and a solid canon doesn't quite exist yet." I think it's entirely possible that the original idea of Princess Celestia was the ruler of Equestria that controlled, get this, the celestial bodies. It was only decided later that Celestia exclusively gets the sun and Luna, the moon.
1 likeWhen that decision happened, I can't say, but I would guess it happened after the conception of the character Princess Celestia, otherwise her name would be something more specific to the sun, just like how Princess Luna is the Lunar princess.
So why not rework the episode? Maybe it was already in production and no one wanted to start over. But, more importantly, even if they wanted to rework the script, how much would it really affect? A few lines at the beginning and/or end of the episode? I would say it wasn't worth it, because the pilot wasn't about how Nightmare Moon was banished and some cosmic scheme to release her, it was about the six main characters becoming friends.
I remember some dialogue that Celestia also controlled the sun and stars. I think it was from the beginning scene of the Mlp game.
1 likeI really love this channel. So amazingly smart and entertaining
0 likesExactly 1000 years to the day is quite the coincidence, especially considering it matches an ancient prophesy (which I'm pretty sure Celestia wrote). I think that Nightmare Moon wasn't released, the spell simply ended. Celestia and the Tree knew when the spell would end because they were the ones who cast it and were indirectly working together to prepare.
1 likeI got a good question that piped into my mind. Why don’t unicorns have magic related cutie marks. Entire families like applejack’s have cutie marks related to farming, entire teams of Pegasus make up the Wonderbolts. Why rarely do unicorns have cutie marks relating to magic?
1 likeOkay, if Celestia had had visions and known everything about Twilight's destiny, she wouldn't have been so freaked out when she knew she had to send her away in the first place. Look at the beginning of season 7. Perhaps the tree was behind of all of this all along
1 likeThe stars kind of look like their in the shape of a compass at some points so maybe something similar to the Chinese myth of the four symbols with sometimes includes a fifth: the azure dragon of the east, the vermilion bird of the south, the white tiger of the west, the black tortoise of the north, and the yellow dragon of the center. Though, I’m not sure the animals that represent the five areas would have that much power if they were to exist in Equestria
1 like<3 Love the theory Brony!! Love and miss your theories, glad to see you live
0 likesOkay, here’s my theory!
0 likesIn episode 3 it’s mentioned that Celestia has a nephew and it can’t be Luna’s because she’s been in the moon for a thousand years and Prince Blue-Blood is not an alicorn which means he doesn’t live forever. So unless Luna adopted him as soon as she was released, there might be a third sister here. We’ve got the princess of the sun, the princess of the moon, and... the princess of the stars. This third princess could be in space, closer to the stars, which could be why we never see her, but she could have been the one to release Luna. She could have been up there just keeping Luna company for all I know.
Maybe the pony controlling the stars is and was always Star Swirl you can see it in his name and cutie mark. Even when he was banished in the limbo he could probably do stuff with the equestrian world in the same way that Discord kinda did when he disguised himself as Grogar and freed Tirek from another dimension (Aka tartarus). The gaps are filled and I can't personally think of any other explanation about what's going on with the stars.
1 likewell, the way that the stars were placed to get nightmare moon out of the moon, it looked like twilights cutie mark.
1 likeWhen Luna has a child. Her child will probably play her part. Ya know.... walk in dreams. Celestia and Luna's Child will rule the day and night while Twilight rules the whole land and ranked at a higher level.
1 likeIt could, like he stated in a previous video, have been Celestia and Luna's parents. Maybe their mother or father had control over the stars like Luna could control the moon and Celestia the sun. But the sun is technically a star, therefore Celestia could have control over them, but I highly doubt that for the same reasons stated in the video. Grogar could still be the force behind it. Being a ram he could very well have been the constellation Ares which is usually represented by 4 or 5 stars, like the ones that released Nightmare Moon. Though I do like the theory that the Elements (AKA the Spirit of The Elements (Spirit of Harmony)) was the one to release Luna. Ever since the pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, the only ones who could wield them were Celestia and Luna, but they couldn't use them to the same degree the Mane 6 could. When they used the Elements (which brought them together and were represented as their cutie marks) they could do thing Celestia and Luna couldn't, at least as far as we know. The Spirit of Harmony could very well have been waiting for the Mane 6 to come together so Nightmare Moon could be released and reformed back into Luna. If the Elements could have reformed Nightmare Moon so easily, why didn't Celestia do it herself? I believe that only the Mane 6 had this ability, like their ability, even without true magic as they knew it, were able to use the Elements to defeat Tyric only using the power/magic of friendship. The Elements had to be wielded by the Mane 6 in order to reform Luna from Nightmare Moon. Either one of these theories could be true. Their parents wanting to free their daughter after seeing her trapped in the moon for a millennia. Grogar wanting to free his fellow Mistress of Darkness and Fear. Or the Spirit of Harmony freeing her to set forth the defeat of many villains leading to two different trees coming from its ruin. Twilight's Crystal Castle, and the Students Crystal Tree after the Spirit of Harmony itself tested them. But it would be interesting if there was a third sister, one who controlled the stars. Which leads to the questions, what would she look like, what would her name be, why haven't we seen her, and if she did exist, where is she and what happened to her? I say her since the only appearance of a male Alicorn we have seen was during the dreams where Big Mac took the form of an Alicorn. We have no proof of other Alicorns existing besides Celestia and Luna and the ones they created being Cadence and Twilight (Not counting Flurry since Celestia stated she has never seen an Alicorn actually being born the way they are and Luna saying that this is something not even they knew was possible). If a third sister existed, what would have been her motive to free Nightmare Moon from her prison? Nightmare Moon was a tyrant and a villain, what good would come of freeing her? Unless the third sister was also evil and that's why she is never mentioned or referenced. She could have somehow escaped imprisonment like the kind that befell Nightmare Moon. If so, what is her plan, where is she hiding, and how would she play into the grand scheme of things? We know that Luna's opposite form was Nightmare Moon and Celestia's is Daybreaker. We also know both names play into their roles of controlling the Sun and Moon respectively, but what would their sibling's name have been as well as their opposite forms name........ I got real off topic here but maybe you could create a video from the sibling theory.... I doubt you'll actually read this though seeing how long it is but who knows.
0 likesI think I know who did...
1 likeIt was their mother.
Although it only shows their parents once, it appears their mother has something to do with the galaxy and the STARS! After all, the sun and moon are just part of the galaxy. Their parents aren’t a part of the story, and are never shown, but it never said they were dead. They could’ve simply retired, just like Luna and celestia did.
But you could be wondering, “why didn’t they get freed sooner then?” And here’s my answer. The world wasn’t ready, and more importantly, celestia wasn’t ready. If nightmare moon was freed any sooner, the mane 6 wouldn’t have been ready to fight her, leaving celestia to fight on her own. But of she was freed any later, she would’ve been to strong for them to handle.
Soon after she was freed, other villains began attacking, and that would’ve weakened them to the point it would be easy for nightmare moon to take over. Besides, they needed Luna to help them if they were to win against the other villains. I’m guessing that their parents knew this, and freed her at just the right point in time for the rest of equestria to be set on its safest route.
Doesn't anyone else think that
1 likeTwilight should be the princess of stars except being the princess of friendship
maybe a bigger power than the sisters. Maybe a more powerful alicorn that we'll never find out about.
1 likei have a question and that no one in the fandom ever asked or thought of it. What was Discords Plan in S9, what was he gonna do with the bewitching bell? or did he plan to get his power drained so twilight can save the day? who knows thats why im commenting this on you.
1 likeBut im very very curious what discord had plan with the bewitching.
Yes, the sun is a star but those four things couldn't have had any significant influence on the moon if they were stars. My theory was and is that those four things are not stars but some other animate entities that helped nightmare moon, possibly linked to whatever turned her into nightmare moon.
0 likesAnd seeing all the EQ movies and how equestrian magic "corrupts" it's users and how Luna seems so out of character in those scenes and how she looks shocked right before turning into NM.... I think Luna had the least influence over what is going on.
In Faust's tweet, she says, "And who controls the sun and the moon and the stars...?" This is a big indicator that all those three things can be controlled. Maybe they have to be controlled by Luna and Celestia in order for them to move, but only Celestia was in charge of both day and nighttime, so she could control the stars as well to set Nightmare Moon free. Plus, for Celestia saying she "saw the signs" of Nightmare Moon's return, she most likely said that as to not lose the trust of her subjects, and most of all, Twilight Sparkle. Celestia was so calm about it all. And why would the stars release Nightmare Moon right as Twilight was looking at them? Celestia must have known about that, and released her right then and there.
0 likesYou should do a theory of why Luna’s color pallet changed from season 1 to what we see now. It wasn’t just her hair that got flow-y and changed, it was her body color too. We don’t see that with Tailight when she becomes a princess with flowing hair at the end of the show. And I wonder if Celestia had a color change too?
0 likesWell I mean...whether it makes sense or not, Faust is hinting that it was Celestia..that was no one else controlling the sun and moon but her alone.
0 likesI don't think it makes sense because the prophecy doesn't sound like a self-fulfilling prophecy, it sounds like agents working outside Celetia's control.
If that's the way Faust intended it, well, early episodes indicate Celestia was always suppose to be a troll, but obviously in later seasons she became more of a push-over (which I don't like).
Celestia being a troll makes her look competent and calculated which would make her a strong leader.
I don't think it really makes her a liar if she said she saw the signs, especially if she wrote the signs...but then that would mean she has some incredible foresight, 1000+ years worth of foresight, that makes her almost god-like. And isn't she suppose to be some kind of deity?
In any case, having worked some of this out, it doesn't look that far fetched anymore. But I don't know for sure yet.
Honestly I think Faust was referencing a higher power. Celestia controls the sun. She's not supposed to control the moon, and noone really controls the Stars. As far as I'm aware, it's never mentioned that Celestia controlled the stars, she raised and lowered the sun and moon, that's it.
0 likesSo while I don't think it's Harmony that did it, I do think it was a higher power that isn't Celestia. No, not Discord, and I definitely don't think it's Grogar (How would he even control the stars, even if he was made of them?).
Maybe it's a reference that Celestia and Luna did have a mother and father relating to sky and earth like in Maori legend, or other legends as well. Two beings that controlled - or even were - the very earth and the very sky. Or maybe simply one. Fausticorn, anyone? The wink makes me think it's a troll, or that she is referencing Fausticorn. As you said, J.K. Rowling has made similar amusing and downright silly tweets. They have to be taken with a grain of salt.
On one of your previous videos about the elements of disharmony and is they existed they would mean things but I think they would be the opposite of the element of harmony so the would be kindness-mean honesty-lier generosity-selfifness loyalty-disloyalty laughter-unhappines and the magic well I guess dark magic I think this cus in the episode the mean six and discord return it says this
1 likeHonestly, It makes perfect sense why celestia would free nightmare moon. I don't think that the only reason why she did it was because she wanted to test Twilight and the mane six. Sure, that most likely play a part in it, but I think the biggest reason is because she wanted her sister back. And she knew the mane six where the only ones who could "save" Luna.
0 likesI believe, Celestia knew that Twilight will exist and she set the timeing just for her.
0 likesHow did she know? Why exacly 1000 years?
That has something to do with the Tree of Harmony. Or does it? The Tree arranges everything, does it? Or the tree is just the part of a grater machine? Let's start the story in a more ancient time. When the 3 types of ponys got united. The moment when the magic of friendship was born. From that moment it started to grow, it united the aciend mane6, but it wasn't perfect. Their elements are important, but more self-orianted elements. They're important too, the Crusaders still do this finding yourself ways and it's represented by the cutie marks. Since the elements as jewelerrys turn cutie-mark shaped, we can clearly say that cutie-marks has a lot to do with friendsip. Than the Pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, but with Stigeon they weren't really friendly. That was a big mistake in the system. Than the tree grew, more friendship-related elements, the elements of harmony came alive. Celestia on her own couldn't use them to reform Nightmare Moon, but another banishment happened. That was the second mistake in the system. But when the mane6 came, they used the elements seperatly, as friends, so they had more power. We can see "the magic of friendship grow" in the entire series and after. It reformes a lot of villians, empires return, creatures get friendlyer, reformes kingdoms, gets to other dimentions. And she knew that in a 1000 years the magic of friendship will grow enough to reform Nightmare Moon. Was it a vision or did she study this magic and calculated it? Somehow she did know it.
Separate Theory I've kept flopping back on. the 7th element. Hear me out. Referring to the Pillars, the Mane 6, and the Mane 6 Equestria Girls. Each one tends to bring on a 7th AFTER the 7th was a villain, the Pillars had Stygian, Mane 6 has Starlight, and EG has Sunset/Twilight. There IS a 7th element, Forgiveness/Redemption. While Stygian WAS a part of the pillars before becoming the pony of shadows, he wasn't really close to them, like a friend, until after the Mane 6 helped him realize his mistake and the Pillars forgave him/Stygian's redemption (Forgiveness fits better). Starlight is more obvious, with Twilight forgiving her for nearly destroying the timeline and she redeems herself by being helpful all around and eventually helping with friendship problems before taking over as headmare of the school of friendship. EG is a little trickier, as it's harder to determine the 7th there, but I would say it ends up as Sunset. Since EG is supposed to mirror FiM, it would make sense that Sunset is the Starlight of EG, down to the similar names (Starlight Glimmer/Sunset Shimmer). Sunset was the first to be shown forgiveness by FiM's Twilight and the EG rest of mane 6 (and EG Twilight's Geo was magic, with Sunset's being mindreading/insight). I feel you could add more to this than I can.
0 likesAlso Wavy Hair is Related to a female pony's magic, Older Twilight, Celestia, Luna, Mistmane and most likely Gusty the Great. When Celestia/Luna were without magic like the end of season 9 and Tirek, their hair stopped flowing. Also when Twilight had Celestia's, Luna's, and Cadence's magic, her mane would flash the Flowy way, as well as during the season 9 vanquishing of Sombra and the Legion of Doom/Crystalis, Terik, and Cozy. Just a mini-theory added to the hair flowing thing. Obviously Mistmane and Gusty would have the flowing hair since Gusty would have had to be very powerful to lock up the bell and Mistmane was an original Pillar.
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0 likesi'm assuming star swirl perhaps i mean it kind of makes sense because he has star in his name and does have some pretty strong magic also correct me if i'm wrong but i think he can also see the future
0 likesWhat if the stars were controled by nightmare moon herself? Sure, Luna controls the night and moon while nightmare moon control nightmares, however, Luna controls the night as much as the moon because the moon's one of the reasons there's night, and since nightmare moon is controling Luna, maybe she tried to move the stars. And I think that's where the tree of hamony played the part. I think it made it so that the four stars would be at the same position until Twillight and her friends came along. What I find interesting, is Twillight's cutie mark. Sure it resembles magic, but it shows like stars, maybe she did it, unknowing of course. Maybe, the tree of hamony was using Twillight. But, who knows.
0 likesError how does one control the stars? Remember the star spiders. Who would want NMM to return? Who would want to build a statue of NMM? Who would write a magic book and leave it in a place that only a dragon or an alicorn could get to? Does it seem like some mysterious actor is spending a lot of time and effort around the castle of the two sisters?
0 likesI think that Sunset Shimmer was the one who released the Nightmare Moon, cause how would she know about Nightmare's Moon defeat and about the elements of harmony ?
1 likeCause she had to bee a very long time in Equestrian high to learn how to be a human... And when Twilight camed to Equestrian high, you can clearly see Sunset Shimmer's pictures in Celestia's office...
And in the episode when Sunset and others defeated and destroyed the memory stone, you can clearly hear her says: "this isn't Equestria, princess Celestia, what is this thing ? Somepony help..."
And we all know that Sunset was old Celestia's student, soo she is gone for a very long time... and actually It makes sense... Sunset was the most gifted unicorn of all, but when Sunset waned more power and to become an alicorn, Celestia refused... soo... maybe that was Sunset's revange ? I honestly don't know... but what do you guys think ?
Tell me if you think that this is correct or not
Can you please do a theory on the Kirin cause I’m confused why they were never brought up in the show again.
0 likesActually it should be a different pony. The tree would notice the change in destiny and keep Nigthmare Moon locked, and i am pretty sure Celestia was counting with a pupil not just destiny so i doubt that she would release her without a pupil and without the sonic rainbow i can't think of anypony capable of becoming her pupil. But afterwards Lauren said to don't believe in everything she say.
0 likesIt was Luna! (Nightmare moon)
0 likesCuz in the MLP game in Luna's description it says "Luna Controls the moon and stars"
I think star swirl played the largest role as his name is STARswirl and I think similar to how celesta and Luna control the sun and moon, starswirl could control some of the stars.
0 likesOne could also interpret Lauren Faust's comment as saying that star swirl since it is much easier to see him controlling the stars and one could say that he controls the sun and stars has he was Celestia and Luna's teacher's before he left and he and a few other unicorns raised the sun and in a royal problem it is stared that it is easier to raise the moon with luna's magic then to raise the sun with Celestia's magic.
What if the stars were Starswirl or something putting it as a background spell or something slowly merging around the moon over a thousand years and Celestia just asked him to
2 likesMaybe when she cast the spell it only lasted so long. She didn't know that when she casted the spell but technically she did release her because there was a time limit on the spell.....?
0 likesmaybe luna controls stars and celestiare controls brightness or might control pheonxs like flutter shy
1 likeWhat if twighhlight accidentally released nightmare moon after reading the story of nightmare moon and celestial saw the sights and sent twighlight to defeat nightmare
1 likeI still think it was Celestia... she has used villains for tests before.
0 likesI am not claiming to be canon, but the Gameloft game of MLP describes her that she controls the stars too. Maybe they let it slip in the dialogs and as it would be weird they ignored but added it ib the game.
0 likesWhat if the tree somehow uses starswirl's power since he's more powerful then celestia???
0 likesI just realize something. Go back to the artificial and non-artificial Alcorns maybe you were wrong about which ones are artificial I think flurry is the real one and all the rest are artificial
0 likesCelestia did an oopsie, or did she?
0 likesI really like the idea of the Tree of Harmony controlling the events leading up to the Return of Nightmare Moon. It makes sense. But as you said earlier in the video, it is possible that Celestia had to wait for new Element Bearers to show up.
2 likeswait how did the tree control everything in ep 1 if it was dying?
0 likesI have held back on this but what if Celestia had an Older sister?I have seen comics about it and maybe she ruled the stars?But Celestia lied to Luna about her,and this is where betrayal comes in and Their older sister tries to manipulate Luna with the lies Celestia told her to keep her safe?I got this theory from the comics (Princess Trixie Sparkle) and a Animatic called ’Sorrowful Regretful’ and didn’t know if it could mean something.
1 likeMaybe not Starswirl but an apprentice perhaps. like Clover The Clever?
1 liketheres a scene in the gala song where celestia is jumping from one cloud to another, and stars are moving behind her noticebly, so I dont know if that means anything
0 likesHi Brony Notion!! Just want to know how come in the first season of mlp, Luna's hair was still a simple straight mane but during the battle of discord that happened a thousand years ago, her mane was then wavy?? After a few more episodes, it then became wavy again??
0 likesWell luna turning into nightmare moon wasn't all bad. Think about it, when she was released from the moon she was sad because of nightmare night but there really was no reason to. She now gets to copyright claim nightmare night for that night and every other nightmare night that happened over the past 1000 years. Sure it might make equestria go bankrupt but since luna has the night shift she doesn't have to deal with the angry protesters😀.
0 likesI think twilight sparkle alined the stars the reson behind my theory is her cutemark . The 4 stars sounding the big perpil one are the exact same as the ones that allowed Nightmare moon's escape what do you think ???? SPISIPHIKLY the bronenation
1 likeI think it was twilight because she has 4 stars and she probably controls the stars
1 likeThis probably sounds stupid but...maybe NightMare Moon waited until she was strong enough to use her magic to escape because
0 likesCelestia = day
Luna = night
So Luna might be the one who controls the stars
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0 likesHey! You should watch the episode where the cutie mark crusaders poisoned Big Mac and their teacher with a love drink! ❤️
0 likesThe book they find this in tells us about a prince and an alicorn princess. This princess may be Luna's and Celestia's mother??!! 😱😱😱😱
I don't think Celestia was the one that released Nightmare Moon I think it's Twilight Sparkle because of her cutie mark, isn't a star and Twilight Sparkle must be the one that could control the stars
0 likesWho controls the stars... I was thinking that twilight set this whole thing up to make here look good. Or of course it could have star light wanting to get another evil force on here side. Or it might have been STARSWIRL! Of course I know he's in limbo but hes a powerful wizard so maby he had enough power to let nightmare moon out of here prison? You can never know with these kind of things
0 likesLuna controls the moon and you see moon with stars? hmmm 🤔 maybe celestia did
0 likesQuestion 101: while making ur video about how Star Swirl created Alicorns u said that to become an Alicorn a pony had to create new magic,but only unicorns can make magic so can only unicorns become alicorns or do Pegasuses and Earth ponies do something else? :)
0 likescelestia did because the is a star too so she has control over all of them but it was kept a secret
0 likesit was luna BECAUSE well she controls the moon and the stars only show when the moon is out so the stars might have there own mind or something and the stars think they should free luna so yes she sent her to the moon but the stars might have a mind of its own and set luna free
0 likesStars are still suns they are just far away so it could still be Celestia
0 likesThis still doesn't change the fact that Celestia orchestrated the fates of the Mane 6 with her own trials in order to test them but this came into cost of focusing there Kingdom on the heroes instead of having suitable Aid to help them on Quest they know they need help with; & it's the lack of improvement & Leadership that kead to Repeated Instances where Equestria was Invaded or in Turmoil yet got worse before the 6 resolved the problem. And people wonder why I'm truly Loyal to Princess Flurryheart.
0 likesMaybe it is celestia why wasn't she thier then maybe she was trying to test twilight like you said she has visions so maybe she was doing test becuase she saw she would make a great princess with her friends by her side and celestia did control the moon sun and stars so it could be possible
2 likesi think faust was only half true while the rest is you correct theory as the tree used celestia just not as a literal mind controlled puppet if anything i think grogar was given the chance to learn from his mistakes from the sky by aiding the tree in bringing nightmare moon back and after that grogar learned from all the mane 6 lessons and saw the error of his ways meaning that once the comics come out grogar will be the one to reveal celestia set nightmare moon free because he and harmony herself told her too meaning that harmony may have existed inside twilight and wanted to make sure she became twilight just like how pinochio finale become a real boy harmony probably wanted to become a real pony not just any pony, twilight herself and chose grogar of all creatures to help guide twilight meaning grogar was a reformed jimminy cricket for twilight not celestia or discord
0 likesControls the sun and stars ? you mean like how twilight does now? wait.....
1 likeEquestria Girls Twilight somehow has wings in the 4th movie but when she goes to the portal she doesn't
1 likeWho the heck controlled the stars?!
2 likesMe: the animator ●_●
Omg twilight controls the stars cause y would she have "star" in her name so technically twilight released nightmare moon and btw proof in 1st episode she was using her horn while looking at night mare moon u can hear it if u listen closely and grogar is still trapped in stars cause remember discord pretended to be grogar so yea
0 likesWhat if nightmare moon controled those stars?
0 likesCELSTIA CONTROLS THE STARS SINCE THE SUN IS A DAMN STAR lol
0 likes“What brought them all here in pony ville in the 1st place”
3 likesI was thinking about the super sonic double rain boom
My favourite part was celestia with troll face
0 likesWhat if celestia planned this howl thing?!?! And then also set discord free not when the cmc’s argued and then gave him the elements and also set free all the other villains for other tests for the main 6 and what if Luna was still doing the dreams just not able to get off the moon (I mean that she went into sin butt’s dreams) 🤔 (I confuse things a lot don’t blame u if u don’t understand)
0 likesI am not sure it's the tree because idk what season but we learn that the tree was dying ( maybe been a long time since I watched it ) and because of that I am not sure if the tree had that much power to tell Celestia or give Celestia the vision of what would happen or have the power to free luna also saying that the tree only gained power once twilight and her friends gave up the jewels so again the tree didnt have that much power so it could have used power it had gained and stored to use to help Celestia see what would happen or to free luna but this is just a thought
0 likesIt might be Luna and Celestia's mother and father
0 likesso i have an idea what if for "watch the season over who controls the sun the moon and the stars?" sure celestia at the time was doing all of it but here is my idea.. what if it was discord? he aided in here escape cuz sure we was frozen but what if his magic could now only help other villains escape? I mean hes discord right? so it makes sense if the magic anyone uses to turn him to stone will freeze him and "take away his magic" well no discord means chaos right? so chaos is like no harmony well because at the time the tree of harmony was waiting to grow well having no harmony means discord so im thinking discord is the reason she escaped because sure the stone frezzed him and all but where did his magic go? Because the tree of harmony was never there for a LONG LONG time before twilight and her friends grew it again but with that harmony discord just got stronger and stronger. Now going from this how would simple stone that easily broke in after time hold so much magic? Well I think the stone can hold HIM from escaping and his magic from breaking down the city towns and stuff, BUT can't hold him from HELPING see harmony is basically helping and love and stuff right? well see helping he IS helping but not in the way he should of see thats so important to my theory now i'm not saying this is 100% right BUT im not saying its wrong cuz to me this makes sense anyways lets continue so discord was helping nightmare moon escape until she reformed now this next part idk if it makes 100 100% sense but what if he used so much magic to brake her free that his magic was running low but just enough to help her stay strong UNTIL the main 6 came and used the elements of harmony now going from your theory in the past the element and the tree of harmony are STRONGER then discord so him using to much magic to free nightmare moon means he dose not have enough with her magic and his magic to fight back the element meaning they reformed nightmare moon! Now sorry for this being so long but we are almost done (you can 100% use this theory for a video if you want) anyways time to continue so now think about this sure the stone was made by the elements and celestia BUT what if now this is an idea i love but what IF discord just had enough magic to control celestia into helping out now going a bit by your theory the stars dont move thats correct BUT what if it had a bit to do with celestia now im thinking that the stars leave the sky from celestia once the sun is in place like think we never rlly see the stars in the same place right? so what if celestia moves them once the sun is in place cuz if the stars leave the sky while the moon is leaving it will be REALLY dark! So! Celestia moves them like i said AFTER the sun is out! Now lets say this is wrong! Well that CAN be 100% right BUT i'm thinking discord maybe made celestia do it by controlling her body for 3 mins now celestia saw with her own eyes that the stars aided in her escape but the reason she said that is she technically did not help that was discord doing that now that MAKES SENSE cuz celestia is not one to really lie right? so shes not lying here cuz like i said tech it WAS discord right? Again im sorry for this being long but im almost almost done. now the "No One's Ever Really Gone..." See what if now that discord was out what if he helped make ALL the villain A. Turn Make Evil For A Season to "Test" Princess Twilight And Her Friends? So Or B. The rest of the reformed villains did not change back but he JUST let out the ones that were in prisoned now im ALSO talking in tarterus! Ok Ok Now I'll leave the rest to you but i deff think this IS worth exploring maybe in parts but I personally will be prob doing a video on this on my channel i worked so hard on this idea and piecing together was so much fun! I'm still missing so so much but this is worth exploring!
0 likesJust wanted to know that how old is Celestia and Luna cuz they were even there when Twilight grew up and when Twilight's a princess how old are they?
1 likeHey brony here's my theory,Luna set nightmare moon free. Luna are two different ponys even tho they share the same body. Their like siameze twins share a body but are two different people. And it says " on the longest night" and Luna controls the moon which controls night. Luna knew that in a 1000 years the elements of harmony would be found and so would the pony to control them, so I think Luna set nightmare moon free. Just my theory tho
0 likesI hope you see this
I Am Confused that twilight was so shoked when Celestia said that Luna was her sister. in the begining of friendship is magic part 1 twilight read about it in a book ?
1 likehmm what if there another princess who controlled the stars, like twilight or cadence
0 likesWhat makes the color of a unicorn's magic? For example Sunburst's mom has green-coloured magic on her orange horn.
0 likesYa know... the sun IS a star... Lauren could just be trying to mislead us... so...
0 likesStars are just smaller suns so thinking I sellester controlled the sun she can also can control small suns witch we call stars
0 likesAnd can you please post a video on who is princess Amore. Referring to the ruler of the Crystal Empire in the Journal of the Two Sisters
0 likesAnd Nightmare Moon Was the strongest VERSION of luna and Luna is a princess so Couldn't Nightmare moon let HERSELF OUT??????
1 likeIdk what to say but ima say this-
0 likesI think at the beginning I believed twilight was the princess of stars but I figured that Luna was princess of moon and stars I saw nightmare moon at the beginning at 1 episode so. Nightmare moon let herself out from the control of the stars and I figured 4 stars are Luna, Celistia, Twilight, and cadence maybe nightmare moon gotten they’re magic some how she might’ve gotten out. The harmony’s chosen Aj, Rainbow dash, Twilight sparkle, Fluttershy, Rarity, I think that’s all of the ponies. Then all of the ponies got chosen deafted nightmare moon then after som eps I think celistia letted Luna out it wasn’t a thousand years she probably learned her lesson.
this is crazy but twighlight already probily cintrolls the stars just saying
0 likesHave you ever noticed that sunset shimmer doesn't have a duplicate which means she is a pony from equestria and there was no duplicate there so is she a changeling that would explain her powers that she had and when she turned into a demon she was a student of Chelstia so that's how she found the portal but why steal the crown how did she know their was magic in it
0 likesIn the game My littel pony the description of Luna is( ruling over the Moon and star ) if celestia rise the moon in place of her sister when she was on the moon sow of course she can move the star to
0 likes0:56 Did she really say that? That theu fertilize the ground? 😊🤣
0 likesmaybe thers other alicorn or pony who control stars but we didnt see her or him
1 likeWho made the timber wolves?
1 likeDid anyone see the change in Luna's mane? No one has ever mentioned about it...
0 likesI think Who was the one that who’s controlling the start
0 likesHai I have some more questions here so if you can plz answerrr :
1 like1. Chrysalis is "queen", Sombra is "king", Tirek is "lord" and they are around celestia and luna level so why then are tia and luna just "princesses"
2. If starswirl casted spell on tia and luna an they turn into alicorns, cuz they raise sun and moon easly, then why he didn't cas that spell on somepony who easly control weather, nature, light or something like that??
3. What if tia and luna are connnected ti princess platinum?
4. We know there are 2 worlds, so that means equestria and human world, but what if equestria is just a part of world so wat is with other places??
5. We als know that celestia told mane 6 that discord can use his magic for good, but why didn't she told that about idk chrysalis or somone else what if before discord was on princesses side?
6. Before it all, before equestria, before starswirl, before racism, were there alicorns. Cuz i dont think that tia and luna are first alicorns ever.. What if alicorns created unicorns pegasus and earth ponies....
7. So if celestia cutie mark is sun, and luna's moon, then what about their parents cutie marks? And do they had other siblings?
8. Final question- sience harmony tree was destroyed why didn't twilight or somepony else created something new? And wat da f*** happend to ever free forest is casted spell on it to sleep or something?
PLZ ANSWER IF YOU CANNN
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0 likesI think Luna controls the stars
0 likesI think I know how control the star it could be twilight sparkle because just look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little around it so it could be Twilight sparkle!!!
0 likesCelestia is a scheming god-pony, I'm pretty sure she was behind this. It's not the first time we saw her have long-lasting plans involving complicated manipulations of other ponies.
0 likes”Śtårš, Fütūrë, Møøń, Śüñ, Dāÿ, ñïght... Mågįç åñd łïfę. Thėÿ łįė ïñ ūš åłl, Ïš thėrę å pøñÿ whø čøńtrołš thėm åłl?” (this is for another theory )
2 likesI think STARSWIRL controls the stars! I think you can guess why uco
1 likeI have came up sorta with a question that is the magic element of harmony supposed to be sunsets or Twilights because if you think about it sunset stepped in on rainbow rock and became another part of the rainbow. But then in the next movie the friendship games The other twilight joins the crew leaving someone without an element also if you think about it sunset used to be celestias pupil so is the element of magic belong to sunset. Furthermore the spirit of harmony shows up as twilight if you think about it. So is twilight just the spirit of harmony and sunset the element of magic it would also explain the ending in the movie where the sunset turns into a pheonix then a star as there is another star that is purple but doesn't shine so bright. I would love to hear what you think and ask if you could make a video on it? You could also find evidence against or for my theory. I just wamt to here your thoughts.
2 likesYou know that sun is a star
0 likesWait a minute! Is it true that Luna's boyfriend is king Sombra bc if u look on the internet you see alot of pictues of them together (so on youtube) but you see also some pictures of Luna whit a chain on her neck??? so is she sombra's girlfriend??? or not im confused! Brony Notion pls explain this!
1 likei think starlight controls the stars
0 likesWhat about the memory stone???????
1 likewait a minute I realized something that the tree did this then the vines were it's doing maybe I perpecfully weakened it's magic so that it unite the six maybe the kidnapping of Luna and celestria was it's doing
0 likesI thing celestia might have because she controls the sun and the sun is a star so that means she controls the stars
0 likesDiscord and celestia are same love 💞💘
0 likesOk don't get mad at me but I think it was Chrysalis mabey she gets star power and is just jealous of Celestia and Luna or Cadence on accident I am just thiking of possibilitys ok
1 likeI think maybe luna and celestia's parents as people have said queen glaxia and king cosmos
0 likesHow did starlight glimmer did it!?!?!?! I am not sure I am sooo confuse!?!?!?!?!?!
0 likesthe sun is a giant star and the stars are mini suns so celestia can control the stars to Btw im on my dads account <3
0 likesOr maybe...... Luna did it! because when twilight sparkle was drinking the potion that is white from zecora I see that Luna raised the moon and put the stars together to the moon and she escaped it! But that is a different episode that I forgot what episode.
0 likeswhy are nightmare moon look same as daybreaker when colors inverted
0 likesLuna control the stars because she is a princess of the moon only she can control the stars because she is princess of the moon and night
0 likesCelestia controls the day and Luna the night celestia has nothing to do with the stars but Luna her magic was taken with her maybe celestia trapped nightmare moon with another spell to stop her from using magic for 1000 Years that means that after the thousand years to control the stars again and free herself
0 likesLike if you agree
The sun is a star lol
0 likesYo what about flurry heart...
0 likesSpoiler alert:
In seson 9 in "the last problem" she was a full grown alicorn and on one of your other vids you said there might be a future season and spike said thats for future spike to handle and flurry heart is an adult so my theory is the different species friend like yona and sandbar are the future generation and flurry heart will be like future cadance
Dear brony notion
1 likeI suggest u make a theory about sunset real human form (sci-sunset) that is like sci-twi every pony have a double human and pony form,
Since sunset shimer is from the pony realm then were is sunset original human form? Is there another sunset just like there was a nother twilight and the other pony.
Pls do the theory im still confused thank you😄😁😁
i'm wondering what flurry heart looks like noq
0 likesJust look at her cutemark it a Star! And do star's reminds u of friendship or stars!??
1 likeOMG i cant Believe no one has said this TWILIGHT IS THE ONE BUT SHE DIDNT DO IT WHITH HER ON WILL IT WAS HER DESTINY my proof is why would we she have STARS on her cutiemark!
0 likesI thick I know how control the star it could be Twilight sparkle because look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little star around it so it could be Twilight sparkle or not!!!
0 likesYou made me scared so I hope it is not celestia
0 likesWhat if the four dots wans't stars?
1 likeI think it the purple pony I forgot her name but she is in the friend ship if you know what I’m saying and her cutie mark is a star
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesOMG YESS I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL AGAIN AHHH
1 likeI think a New sister aka a sister that controls stars Will be Shown soon....BUT WILL SHOW UP AT THE BATTLE WHEN the “three friends in prison TOGETHER” Get out WITH GROGAR! Yes I know this sounds crazy but it just my theory
0 likesMaybe nobody controls the cars and they are just there.
0 likesI have been wondering 1 thing why did brony punch someone 2:32
0 likesBUT THE SUN IS A STAR........bruh
1 likeThe tree of harmony have a spirit and why does the tree have a star in the middle and twilight kidney mark looks like it and maybe the spirit of the three trolling the stars .
0 likesGuys Calm down Look what is on LUNAS CUTIE MARK....stars
1 likeWho made the changelings and monster grogar?
0 likesOr is just because the Luna's father
0 likesTwilight controls stars cause her cutie mark is stars
0 likesWhen i was younger i thought twilight sparkle would Ruke the stars because of the cutie mark but now i guess shes princess of friendship ;-;
2 likesI. Think. Luna. Controls. Them to. Escape
0 likesDUDE PINKIE HAS MAGIC!?!?!? ON THE EPISODE SCHOOL RAZE WHEN THE MAGIC CAME BACK PINKIE HAD PINK MAGIC GO INTO HER!!!!! (Not lying go check it out)🤔😯
0 likesStarlight glimmer: Princess of destiny
2 likesWell the stars are far away suns sooooo um i guess I could work
0 likesmake what is really happened to gaea everfree from thimbers story
0 likesHow did discord know what grogars apperance
0 likesThis isn't have anything to do with the video but I have a question that I'd like you to answer why Turn off the colors Rainbowdash is all the colors is she like special
0 likesThe sun is a star .-.
0 likesStar=sun+sun=star
0 likesbrony notion don't you know that luna also controls the star but when the were kids luna didn't know how to control the stars so celestia used to raise the stars until luna learned how to control them oh and can I have a shout out please pretty please
0 likesStar swirl? Idk
1 likeITS STARSWIRL BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF MAGIC AND IS ONE OF THE PILLARS SO YEA.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesme:finished homeschooling
0 likesme:yes easter holidays
me:hmm what's up with his uploads
brony:😠😠😠😠😠
Maybe their parents?
0 likesWhat about
0 likesSTaRSWirl?!
I think star swirl
0 likesStarswirl?
0 likesAre you really a pony or a unicorn or a person in real life or Alicorn in real life!!!!
0 likesThat witch
0 likesAll I can say is...
0 likesand i oop-
DO A BEYBLADE THEORY.
0 likesLike mabye they did it
0 likesMonsters?
0 likesYoshi Darklord
0 likeshi can u talk about my little pony gen 5?
0 likesCorigar is actually discord
0 likesHo controls the stars are twilight becuz hi has the tars on here cutie mark sorry if l am not correct lol😑😑😑❤❤
0 likesYo, The Brony Notion, yo.
0 likesI've written ya a message to ur Facebook Page, yo.
I'd be highly pleased if you'd help me to solve this mystery, yo.
The Pomnik stuff 'n sheet, yo.
Brohoof 'n best regards, yo
Varsovian Bronies community.
Tweiliht Look at her cute mark
1 likeOMG I WAS RIGHT
0 likesHmmmmmmm, think it's starlight glimmer cause before she was bad but now good but, before she was bad how did starlight glimmer did it? Maybe she learned how to do it on book or how? Is it true or not true I am not sure🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨???????????????
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And how did they do the stars?
0 likesThe stars
0 likesNo more pony anymore what happens to discord grogar bell the bell is a key open for
0 likesTantabus escaped
Luna jail to freedom discord mind discord turn into the new father of monsters
U don't understand about discord I love him my favorite creatures
Where is new episodes discord happening 🧬?
:O I forgot to sub even tho I have been watching u for a long time.I9m subscribing now
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0 likesno way
0 likesWHAT
0 likesI'm from Estonia
0 likesWait..... whaaaàat
0 likesCadence
0 likesEl ir más the tree
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0 likesLuna
1 likeHem and how do you will see all the episodes of My Little Pony very get that those episodes I don't let them any app
0 likesMabye twilight it is posabl Sorry I'm a bad at speling
0 likes😁🥰☺🤔
0 likesGrogar
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0 likesCel
0 likesViolette
0 likesGogar
0 likesDo more vid i whads my litle pony sins i whas 4 im 9 tomorow
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0 likesI KNOW HO
1 likeMy guess is she'd set it that she would return she just wasn't sure when it would happen, she never wanted to send her sister away. So she set a timer and had faith she'd find some pony to save Luna
2 likesI always assumed that Celestia had set the stage for Nightmare Moon's return from the moment she sealed her sister to the moon. In the story it explicitly states that "On the longest day of the thousandth year, the stars will aid in her escape." That implies that this was determined long ago, possibly as a part of the spell cast with the Elements.
1 likeIn the Book, "Journal of the Two Sisters," the story goes that Luna and Celestia began controling the sun and moon when Starswirl and the other unicorn's magic failed. Starswirl also said he'd teach Luna, "How to move the stars."
1 likeThis reminds me of a fanfic where Celestia asks a well-known archivist / historian to ”tie in” ie renovate Caterlot's huge archive. Everything is a mystery until the Pony in question finds a link between celestia and the myth of the mare in the moon.
1 likeI just wish I could remember what it's called
Okay, here’s a thought. I know you probably touched on this, but it’s still a valid point. WHAT IF those stars in particular weren’t stars at all?! In the real world, there are things like planets and even far off galaxies that resemble stars... but that’s not the thing here. Those stars must have been magical pieces... and what if there was something to Granny Smith’s old tale about the pony of shadows, with Nightmare Moon’s magic not being truly gone, and perhaps there were leftover magical energy (I’m calling it Mana) that was left behind by something that had happened ages ago, and even though it isn’t sentient per say, it is drawn to magical people/places like iron filings to a magnet.
1 likeCelestia wasn't present in the first episode much. She played the part of staying away.
1 likeHow did she know that she should stay away though?
it could have been twilight and the dream team, she now controls the sun and moon and the stars could represent dreams. now the time line thats no problem, twilight knows how to time travel to make sure her friends and herself got that memory to bond. celestia as well she saw the signs that soon she could have been powerful enough to release maybe.
1 likei'm really happy to see people still making mlp videos even after the show's ended. i know i definitely want to get a channel up and running once i finish my rewatch of the whole series/catch up, but i worry about how much attention it might get since some people consider the fandom to be dead now. seeing this kind of thing is encouraging in that respect, so thanks for doing what you do!
0 likesConsidering that Luna/ Nightmare moon also has control over the night. Its plausible idea that she can control the stars as well. It's still possible that whatever spell that was used could've been weakened over time and she escaped herself possibly using the stars to "break the shield" for lack of a better term and escape.
1 likeWell it makes perfect sense and I can see why the shows creator asked us who controls the stars, because later on in the friendship is magic episode when mayor mayor introduces celestia but then we find out she went poof. Could only have meant she took off because she didn’t want a fight with her sister like a thousand moons ago. But in an animation somewhere on YouTube with a little Luna and celestia when Luna finally raises the moon she’s exhausted,and then her sister asks if she wants help with the stars tonight. And Luna agrees. And I know that isn’t part of the show but celestia is in control of the stars with Luna being mia. At the moment. Because if the suns a star she would have everything to do with the celestial sky with in the domain of equestria thus being able to control constatations as well, meaning she did in fact released her sister with the help of the stars.
2 likesI believe that there were other alicorns hiding in the stars. I believe that there may be more alicorns probably hidden throughout the show.
0 likesHow could Celestia be guided by visions when in an alternate timeline that Celestia released Nightmare Moon after Starlight messed with the timeline, and prevented the Main 6 from becoming the bearers?
1 likeNo, I'm sorry, but I can't buy her having a vision with Nightmare Moon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've only ever seen her have one vision. Memory might be shakey, so correct me if need be. Regardless, that doesn't mean she was "informed" or anything. And even then, who cares? So she had one or two visions, that doesn't prove her every action is guided by one. That has to be proven. The fact that she went and released Nightmare Moon despite that Twilight couldn't discover the Elements in this timeline, tells me she thought she knew Twilight would find the Elements, and in fact had no vision aiding her whatsoever. And where did that lead her? A trip to the Moon.
At least when Discord's plan blew up in his face, it still succeeded in the end. Celestia may never get the chance to undo what she did in the alternate timeline and her screw up remains screwed.
I think the celestia is definitely not the one freeing her sister. Yes it sounds great for her to do but it doesnt make complete sense, as said in the video. I think either the elements did it or maybe nightmare moon. We dont know what "powers" she can do we know of some but not all. She could have used a lot of power to free herself then have to regain it back to fight tia. So she waited then when ready demonstrated and being dramatic used the stars to pretend to make her escape. Then leave just to find her fighting partner gone nowhere to be found and the citizens confused and frightened at her arrival.
2 likesSumming this up i think that nightmare moon freed herself, regained energy, went all dramatic and aligned the stars to the moon and left the moon ready to fight tia.
I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder if it might be Nightmare Moon herself. We know Luna was taught to move the Stars by Starswirl in the Journal of the Two Sisters, yet we also know Luna was unsuccessful in replicating the effect exactly. Maybe she could move the stars but couldn't adjust for the speed of light, as such it took a thousand years for the movement to be perceptible to Equestria. Its just a guess, and probably needs some adjusting. I dunno, what do you think?
0 likesAbout the video that Twilight killed the tree and how you were talking about the different creatures friendship group and how colors were latched to them and how you were predicting what their element was. You said the tree couldn't forget the pillars and how they have their own elements like strength, beauty, hope, sorcery, and bravery. What if instead of the kindness, honesty, generosity, loyalty, laughter, and magic it was those elements? And the way you would figure out is in the Shadow play part II when they are trying to figure out where the pony of shadows went the elements of harmony spirits stould by a certain pillar. What if the colors were still attatched but they had the meanings of the pillars? Please look into this! Love your theories!💗
2 likes4:28 Celestia, at that time she was controlling the Sun and the moon ( and not to mention that the sun is also a star )
2 likesWhat if Luna still had the power to set herself free but waited for the right moment?
1 likei always took worded visions as an analogy twilight has stars and most see early stars at twilight and each element can mean stars its the wording elements ponies twilight celestia wording is what makes it
1 likeIt could have been apart of the spell celestia cast when sending nightmare moon to the moon thinking of a quick easy temporary spell but with so much power of the elements and mabey a a vage vision of twighlight defeating nightmare moon ending up imprisoning her for 1000 years
1 likeit was just a temporary time-out for Luna on the moon made by Celestia. Celestia would never abandon her family members, would she?
1 likeAlso, maybe there was a belief like Greece that killing or betraying family members would cause a curse
or Celestia had a vision or prophecy telling her that she must only trap her for 1000 years, no more.
Y'now, it's possible she did it without realising. At the end of the video, you said celestia didn't control the stars. Maybe she does, and nobody realises. Not even her. I'm not a theorist, however, so I don't know if it's right or wrong...
1 likeWait- we don't know where Celestia and Luna come from... so what if they are actually the children of the Tree of Harmony? Their powers could be fuelled by the tree, so basically, in terms of magic, The Tree of Harmony=Celestia+Luna. Why is this important, you ask? Well, we all know that Celestia did not want her sister imprisoned, and Luna did not want to be trapped on the moon, so maybe their shared desires subconsciously convinced the tree to free Luna/N.M., as their magic would be the exact same thing.
2 likesMaybe the Stars are no stars. In Germany, planets sometimes called "Wanderstern" (Roamingstar).
1 likeThe Stars moved to fast for real stars but maybe these are other planets. And astronomy is nothing unknown in equestria.
The elements were orderd like planets, the telescope in Canterlot and so on.
I have a question, what was that shadow in episode 3 of season 4? could it be the season 7 shadow pony?
2 likesMaybe a princess that wasn't in the show controled the stars? Like, from the toys.
1 likeTo uncover and fully understand the mystery of who orchestrated nightmare-moon's return, we would have to consider the fact that her release was actually prophesied. Which means that the circumstances which would aid her release was what was prophesied not the fact that there would be someone who would defeat and convert nightmare-moon back to princess Luna or the fact that nightmare-moon would be converted at all. So, therefore princess celestia couldn't have been the one to have released nightmare-moon.
0 likesMaybe Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon for an even longer time or forever and she didn't want that to happen so she tried to cast a spell to free and reform her but instead she weakened the spell, causing a "timer" of a thousand years for the spell to wear off. And to add Grogar in this, maybe he saw that Celestia weakened the spell that kept Nightmare Moon banished, so in the stars, he helped aid her escape. Grogar and Nightmare Moon were planning what they were going to do once Nightmare Moon was free and prevented her from thinking about what she has become. If you don't understand, then think of this as "time out" in school. Celestia is the teacher and Grogar and Luna are her students. Luna wants to have the best grades in her class but she doesn't do as good as someone else in her class. She becomes a trouble-maker in class or becomes Nightmare Moon and her teacher, Celestia puts her in time out or banishes her to the moon. Grogar is also in time out in the stars and chats with Luna about a revenge plan on Celestia for when they both get out of time out. Celestia gives Luna a second chance and lets her out of time out. Luna is about to commence the revenge plan when the mane 6 convince her not to do it and reforms her.
0 likesWriting this theory took twenty minutes but hope you like it!! Love your vids💖🧡💛💙💜🦄🦄
Wouldn’t it be a cool theory to think the stars moved by themselves as part of this destiny? Twilight’s cutie mark is a star with smaller stars around it after all, and cutie marks are linked with destiny. In a world where magic exists, what’s unbelievable about magic stars? Celestia cast that spell to keep Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1,000 years, it could’ve simply worn off by then or weakened, or broke like an expired contract (essentially what it is). So I support the theory in Celestia seeing the signs and preparing Twilight and her friends for the reform, and her choosing not to extend Nightmare Moon’s sentence longer because Celestia felt like the Mane Six were ready. Celestia must’ve known. Whether it was her or the stars themselves, I don’t think it was an accident.
0 likesIt does make sense that she could have been the one to do it. I still like your theory of Grogar being the one that did it, but I think it's plausible that Celestia either did it herself or asked someone like Grogar to do it. She still would want her sister back so desperately, and that's why my theory is that she asked Grogar to cast a spell that would enable NMM's escape in 1000 years, giving her time to find the new elements. She knew she had found the one who would be the leader when she sensed filly Twi's magic, and it was only like another 10ish years away from the 1000 year mark. Celestia obviously knew Twilight was going to be the Element of Magic the moment she met her, heck, I even have a headcanon that she started seeing dreams/visions of Twi's cutie mark some time after she banished Luna to the moon, and she spent all those years searching for a pony with that cutie mark. I also think that if she asked Grogar to cast the spell, she did so carefully, still keeping him imprisoned in Tartarus or knowing that it would kill him, but if neither of those happened, perhaps it meant that Grogar would return but Celestia knew the new Elements could handle him. I'm not sure she would have gone to that much trouble to bail out Luna, but now we will never see the possibility of Grogar being a villain since it was just Discord in disguise all along.
0 likesThe tree of harmony thinked that discord would have been to harsh for their first mision so it send nightmare moon first and then figure out if the mane six were prepared for anithing
1 likeI believe it was Sunset Shimmer that started it all. We don’t actually know how long a “moon” is (unless I missed it). Her defying Celestia instigated the stars to align to release Nightmare Moon. Being banished thru the portal, and only having it open for 3 days every 30 moons pushed celestia to send Twilight to ponyville to “make some friends”.
0 likesOk so I’ve watched this series for a while and I HAVE A BONE TO PICK!!
0 likesNot in a bad way, I love these vids... they keep me in a mentality somewhere between a child and an adult...
Maybe it’s been adressed and I’ve just never seen it, but you disproved the fact of there ever being an “alicorn civilization” now, I’m not very up to speed with the show (life happens) but I’m still confused of where the sisters go when they’re retired
I think, unless it was directly proven false and I missed it (which is a huge possibility) but is there an alicorn civilization or not? Where do they go? Do they poof?
Just wondering
Maybe Luna has a student of her own who is controlling the stars!
1 likeNightmare moon used her magic to release her out,and she rule star & moon
1 likeI believe it's either Celestia's mother or father that did it, it's plausible but we've never seen them nor do we know if they had any power of celestial objects, I had thought Starswirl could have but he was in Limbo fighting and containing the Pony of Shadows(aka Stygian) and besides he was never claimed to control celestial objects and I doubt he'd be powerful enough to do so.
0 likesWell, the sun is a star, so in theory Celestia can control them, but the stars are so far away that it wouldn't make sense to move them, and the stars surround the galaxy so if you move them they'd still be by day, but, because of sunlight they don't see them. In the episode of Rockhoof Twi explains that the stars move slowly as they do not have the same location as when he lived with the pillars, so we can assume that they're moves alone or that someone moves them little by little every time. I believe that when the elements of harmony locked Luna up, they put a lock on the stars so that one day she could be released, the years passed and when the tree saw Twi and her friends and the connection between them, he sent signals to Celestia to release Luna. It's my personal theory.
0 likesI really like the idea that Celestia released Nightmare Moon, but not as a test for Twilight, but because she wanted to get her sister back.
0 likesAnd I don't think the Signs had anything to do with the Stars, but that Twilight was ready to rediscover the Elements and purity Luna. The Stars were just the method by which Nightmare Moon was released.
We know that together Celestia and Luna could use the Elements to defeat Discord, but Celestia couldn't use them to purify Luna, so all Celestia could do was banish her to the moon. I believe that the Elements left Celestia right after she banished Nightmare Moon to the moon. So she had to wait until the next bearer would come along, which she knew because of the Cutie Mark on the Tree of Harmony. So when she saw Twilight's cutie mark after the Sonic Rainboom she knew that she was the one who would be able to save Luna. So to me it makes sense that she would be willing to release Nightmare Moon, she just wanted to set right her mistake in letting Luna become Nightmare Moon and being unable to help her. What would actually be amusing would be after Celestia banished Nightmare Moon to the moon, she would have gone to the Tree of Harmony and asked it to bring her sister back, only for the Tree of Harmony to tell her how it would play out, then Celestia wrote the prophesy in the book that Twilight would eventually read.
This last three videos have been about luna and/or celestia,
2 likesBut what if there would come a time the first male alicorn appears?
If most of the alicorns (I don't know if Twilight from the human world counts) can turn evil, does that mean Cadence and Flurry heart can turn evil too?
0 likesTwilight moved the stars! I think this because her cutiemark is the sign! The middle star represents the moon and the other four represent the aligned stars!!
1 likeWhat about the possibility of there being another sibling to Celestia and Luna that is in charge of the stars? Could the Tree of Harmony originally be this sibling that was turned into the tree?
0 likesI'm just throwing random ideas out there...
Technically Celestial does have control over stars because the sun is a star.🤩🔆💛🌠🎇🌅🌄🎖
0 likesMaybe the tree told Celestia to send twilight to ponyville?I'm still confused on who moved the stars but that's up for studying 😊#BroHoof
0 likesHow can lauren faust be wrong about the lore of her own show
1 likeOk, I love your videos, but I have a theory that contradicts what you said.
2 likes1. The Race: You said that the things that brought the mane six together was the tree right? What really brought them together was... Drumroll please... Rainbow Dashes SONIC RAINBOOM! Think about it. It wasn't exactly on purpose, but without it, well, you know what happens. Equestria falls into immediate doom! You can't change history without leaving a mark on it, right? It was the RACE! The Sonic Rainboom, the first one ever preformed, started the whole manifesto. It caused the Mane Six to be brought together.
I have something that also debunks your theory (sorry).
The tree didn't set up the challenges in the first episode. That was all nightmare moon. The keys just HAPPENED due to the special journeys on the FRIENDSHIP MAP. The friendship map is the one to blame for some of the keys. Other keys, (like Fluttershys and Rainbow Dashes) were just destiny! I'll give you the last one. That was the creepy trees fault.
Sorry for debunking your theory, but someone had to say something.
Sincerely,
A usual loyal fan.
( p.s, My sister, cousins, and I love your videos!)
Twili-corn was to Faust's design. There is a sketchbook drawing of fully ascended Twilight from when the show being made. THAT SAID...
1 likeOkay, some gluing together clues from 3 other sources. One of whom's canonicity is questionable. First is the episode where the CMC ask Twilight about how she got her Cutie Mark. Second is the episode where Celestia tells Twilight what is like to let a student go their own way... The third... Is MLP's 20/20 issue from IDW. Which is what people may question in the canon but follow me here and you can see some mind threads I make that fit it in. Especially since IDW is moving forward with future seasonal content. It all starts with Rule 1 of Doctor Who: The Doctor Lies. Adapt that to Celestia... Celestia Lies. She is an ancient being that knows well the consequences of messing with time and space and disclosing and acting what one may know. Also how messing with time can mess with a lot of things (as Celestia hints at in the mini-episodes explaining Equestria's magic)
The first thing I want to bring up is Twilight's remembrance of the day she got her cutie mark. Just want you to think of the event and know... it is a lie. The details of what happened did not happen the way she thinks they did. We go to IDW's 20/20 issue. Twilight and friends still have the elements and they are showing off in front of a delegation from the feline kingdom and Celestia. A display of pony ability. During this storm rolls and a bit worried about it, Dash decides to show off her speed and blast the storm with a Sonic Rainboom. When she does, magic arcs from her to all the rest of the girls though the elements and they vanish. They show up years earlier on the day of the first Rainboom, next to their child selves...
There is hijinx and such that goes around but the most important thing is Twilight. That scene has some modifications to what happened. Spike's egg didn't hatch at all, Celestia was in the room and not outside, and other minor things like Twi's parents in the audience and the judges upfront. Rainboom happens, Young Twi casts the hatching spell... and it instead YANKS Princess Twilight to her to everyone's shock. Once things are settled Princess Twi goes to explain to Celestia, who is shocked at seeing another Alicorn Princess, but Celestia cuts her off and explains to her that she must not say what is going on. The weave of time is in danger right now and no one wants to cause a paradox.
Talking a bit, Princess Twi tells Celestia that she needs to find her Element of Harmony, it is missing from her crown. She also says that all things seem to start in Ponyville for some reason and she must head there. Celestia has Princess Twi (PT) take the excited Young Twi (YT) to Ponyville, YT just floored that she becomes a princess someday. Celestia says she'll catch up and help when she can, first she has to modify the memories of everyone here for safety. PT and YT head to Ponyville and through an adventure there, the older girls introduce the younger girls to each other and get the elements. PT goes to open the rift back home just as Celestia shows up and Celestia relays that she took care of the witnesses back at the castle, they will never know PT was there. PT asks about the people of Ponyville and the young mane 6 to which Celestia says something like, "I must modify the memories here too. Even your younger selves. But don't worry. The ones I put on you 6 will degrade and you will remember the truth sometime in the future." and the mane 6 head back to their present. End of comic
Now to guess what happens next. Celestia goes through with her powerful magic and puts things back as they all "Remember" But in this case... Celestia knows things. She knows that Twilight will become an Alicorn. Twilight will need her friends. All things seem to start in Ponyville... and most importantly above all... Twilight and the girls have the elements of Harmony and are bonded to them. From that Celestia can extract events from there that she doesn't know for sure but can be fairly certain of. Which brings us to Celestia's memory of letting Twilight go and sending her to Ponyville. She knows that all things start there. That it has to happen to keep a paradox from happening. But she grew so attached to this talented filly that she didn't want to send Twilight away. Celestia puzzles out possibilities, using all her resources at her command to try some way to keep this from going the way she fears because she doesn't actually know the details of what happens just that it has to happen. But the day comes, She looks to the moon that she moves each night that is her sister's prison and knows the time is coming soon. She knows that Twilight MUST make friends with these other 5 mares and bond the elements and part of that she assumes her sister's release is linked to it... and so... well the rest is history.
Celestia kept close tabs on her student. She moved the moon into the position it needed to be in the stars to free Luna, then she stood back and let the events she feared so much happen with bated breath. Most likely up from Celes, where she can observe from a safe place. (its the name of where Twilight goes when she becomes an Alicorn). And thus... that's my thoughts. But hey. It's just a hypothesis... A PONY HYPOTHESIS.
I think Luna made herself free I mean she controls the night so what if she planed it herself but had to wait for the right time or to gain enough power to bail out?
0 likesI think Celestia used a Spell when she banished her and in the Spell after a thousand year she set up the Spell to have her released. I believe that Celestia wouldn't be able to banish her sister forever so she found a spell that would release Luna after a Thousand years. Kinda like putting Luna in a time out not sending her away forever. I believe that the one Spell that she cast the night of Luna's banishment brought Luna back and moved the stars. So no I don't believe Celestia herself moved the stars but the Spell she cast to bring her sister back did. Though I do like your theory.
0 likesWhat if Nightmare moon/Luna moves the stars? If she did it that late she probably just discovered that she could move the stars, or she didn’t think of it until that time.
0 likeswe can't rule out the fact that the sun and moon are closer then every other star so there still is that factor, and anyone with enough magical power can control the sun and the moon, look at the ponies of Equestria's old, look at the unicorns of Equestria's old
0 likesLuna's cutie mark have the moon and stars. Maybe while she was on the moon she regain her strength and control 4 stars to help her?
0 likesWell it's obviously true! It's all her fault this shit happened in the first place.... Celestia clearly don't know all the values and priorities in life.
0 likesBrony Notion!! You rock and are such an inspiration for my own theories! I am a big fan!
0 likesThe question that bothers me is: Did Lauren Faust thought about this solution when she was making season1 or later? Did she thought that she didn't need a reason, because at this point of the season 1 premiere she didn't realized how many fans this show will get and that most of the fans are teenagers or adults who think more deeply? If so, did she tried to make a solution? She would've to make a theory about her own show with the hints she gaved with no second thought.Maybe Celestia was an idea for an solution, but she didn't made an official soluton, because she didn't know about the bronies to come. Her solution makes sense, but other theories, like yours with Grogar, makes sense too. Of course she is the creator of this wonderful show and what she says is canon. But if you think about my point that I'm trying to make here, it's really up to everyone to decide for themselves, because we can't be sure that her solution fits the best out of all other theories. In the end I'm open to all theories of this mystery. What Lauren Faust states is canon, but if she came up with this solution much later and other theories fit better than Lauren Fausts solution, than it wouldn't be wrong to accept another theory. Also what if the show makers gave us other hints for this mystery throughout the show even after Lauren Faust has left and the other theories were made out of this additional hints? Isn't something canon that happened in the show? If they were any more hints to this mystery, than Lauren Fausts solution may not be canon anymore. It's two sites of what is canon or not.
0 likesI know this is unrelated to the vid, but I just wanna say I miss the series so much🥺😭❤️🧡 I’ve been watching since season 1 when I was just 6 now I’m 15 and I still love the series so much🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡I used to skip the theme song every time I watch the episodes and now I regret it cuz now it has ended I just realised how much I loved the series and the songs too😍🤩and I don’t care how people keep saying I’m childish for watching MLP and I don’t care if they are going to make fun of me😤
1 likeIt's just a teory, And I don't have any evidence to proove what I'm about to say but, still. What about starswirl? I mean, we know he is the "Twilight" of his Group, who Just happened to Plant the three. We know he has really powerful Magic, since he kept discord's plants still with the princesses, And we haven't seen yet his back. Also he wasn't young even thousends of years ago...maybe starswirl isn't a unicorn, maybe He is...An alicorn! We know that alicorn can infuse their power to other alicorns, right? And we know that Celestia, And consequentially Luna, weren't always reigning Equestria, or it's equivalent before unicorns, heart pony and pegasi allied. Why? Because when Twilight students put on the act on Celestia, they said that before they needed 5 powerful unicorns to raise the sun, and this action would have drained all of their Magic. But then Celestia came. But...from where? And she was alredy an alicorn? We don't know the answer to either of this question, but I like to think that she was alredy a alicorn, but she wasn't the only One. With the 5 ponys, there was, guess who? Starswirl. But, the sunrise didn't took his Magic... maybe because he wasn't Just a unicorn, but here wasn't even a pure alicorn like Celestia, he weren't ment to be an alicorn. We know that alicorn usually don't born alredy with all the trhee magics, as we can see by the reaction to flurry heart born... But the two Sister must have someone Who gave them the magic they needed to be alicorns... maybe starswirl! But he's still an alicorn, so Just like twilight he had more power then an average pony, but not enough to rule equestria, control sun and moon etcetera. What if the magic he kept was the one to rule the stars? Just, think about it...his name is STARswirl, And The two sisters name too remind their Role (for an example in my language, "luna" means "moon" and "cielo" means "sky"). But When he had to go to the limbo he left this power to Celestia, And this cause Luna's Anger, this was the limit, even he's Teacher prefered her Sister! But as we know, starswirl invented the first time travel speech , so he has enough power to time travel. He must have learnt Starlight version of his spell and went Tell something important to Celestia, who then proceded to free nightmare moon and so cause pretty much all the series. If You have to discuss on this theory please do it politely, so we can enjoy this speculations. Also sorry if I made mistake, as you could see English isn't my mother language, so if You can politely Point my mistakes so i can improve I would be so grate. Thanks for reading
2 likesI agree on Celestia not controlling the stars. Even though the Sun is technically a star, it's WAY closer than the other stars, the closest of which is 4 LIGHT YEARS away. That's just too far for a simple spell if you ask me. During the episode where Rockhoof finds his place in Equestria, Twilight mentions that the stars very gradually drift in the night sky, which is exactly what they do in reference to Earth. If Celestia were moving them, there's no reason to suspect that Twilight wouldn't know that.
0 likesLuna is a powerful alicorn. She'd surely be able to break the spell eventually, even with the elements enhancing it. I don't think she'd necessarily need someone else to break her out.
I don't think there were stars who freed Nightmare Moon/Luna. I believe that something that nobody and nopony knew before did that thing, and it's a hidden force, maybe. About Celestia, I see her as a very good manipulator and, Luna is the same. There is something that the show is hiding, but I don't know what and, I think that something is missing. I would like to see the deeper side of the characters more and, I don't believe the show ended with just nine seasons. And, who is the Spirit of Tree of Hormony?
0 likesLook at it this way:Celestia controls thr sun and has a sun cutie mark
1 likeLuna controls the moon and has a moon cutie mark
Twilight has a Star Cutie mark, so does that mean she controls the stars?
My original thought was that discord knew that luna would become nightmare moon and set a spell to release her in 1000 years. it could have been as close to then as he could go or he was planning something for the ponies
0 likesHere is a theory. Luna needed to turn into Nightmare Moon. Because in the future as we know she can travel through dreams. But what about nightmares? Nightmares are also part of the dream realm. So Luna did not mean to turn into Nightmare Moon. Destiny wanted to,
0 likesi think who moved the stars was starfrost helping to set the stay
0 likesIn the video unlocking grogar's true past grogar must have been a uniquely patterned and a bright big star he might have released Nightmare Moon and himself too
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Grogar might have a unique connection between moon and stars .Have you noticed that 4 stars are quite different from others it might be grogar .......
0 likesCelestia didnt release her because twilight. Remember when Starlight erased the Rainboom and twi went back and forth between alternate demensions? Well one of them was a demension where Night mare Moon ruled so even with twilight out of the picture she still released her
0 likesHi, can you talk about how celestia raised the moon when she only has the power to raise the sun? And why are the elements of harmony in the old sisters castle? Why was it old and abandoned?
0 likesI think this theory is stupid but what if Starlight Glimmer was rileded to Celectia and Luna in a way 🤔
1 likeWhat if discord did it .just think about it he makes chaos so maybe he didn't know about the main six so he made the stars release her
1 likealso I think it’s kind of funny that this video came out shortly after I left a comment on one of your older videos talking about the same subject and I had mention that Lauren first talked about it on her Twitter
1 likeI think that celestial shouldn’t be considered a hypocrite because even if she couldn’t see the future she knew luna and wanted to free her. If it was a gamble celestial would have to take her chances in order to get luna back.
0 likesI do hope you read this.
0 likesI know ''Lullaby For A Princess'' is by the show, not considered cannon. But if we saw that it is, could that maybe mean that when Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon, she only wanted to see her sister again, no matter what (Of which could also be seen in the show) and so the elements obeyed, but as Celestia had failed Luna, she could not redeem Nightmare Moon, but the Elements Of Harmony in some ways knew, that Twilight and her friends would get them and then redeem Luna, but only telling Celestia it would be a 1000 years till Nightmare Moon would escape and how, giving Celestia good time to make a plan.
If it wasn't for Luna's jealousy and Starswirl to go missing, one of the few in Equestria I suspect treated Celestia and Luna as equals.
So if Luna never was sent to the moon and the Sonic Rainboom never happened, Twilight and her friends would never have met, and we see in the other realities, Equestria would have been doomed to be out of harmony, FOREVER!!
Let me know if you agree with me and Brony Notion, I hope this give you a new perspective... And maybe a new theory. ;-)
wait so if the show has ended what has happened in the human universe?
1 likeI bet she was like: Ok my sister has been in moon time out for a few years now.. Maybe I should let her out.. Like twilight will save her so like.. Yea no chance of someone dying.. cough applejack nearly fell off a cliff cough
1 likeTwilight when she got startled by the rain boom she might of made the stars move a few years later and who raises the sun and moon now Twilight sparkle
1 likeI always thought that blue smoke was Nightmare Moon
0 likesI have a theory for you too solve! Is it possible for luna/celestia too not be triggered by jealousy and turn too their villain counterparts? If so how?
0 likesMaybe the tree of harmony control's the stars
0 likesMaybe it is Cosmos who has unlished Nightmare Moon... 🤔
0 likesClestia did raise the luna after Luna went to the moon so she can control the stars but what if the ponies with night related cutie Mark or power ful magic could free them maybe trixie she said she is great and power ful nd she doesn't really prove it what if she did that to show ponies she is power ful maybe she got hold of the alicorn amulet or get another artifact that is power full and did it or had a ponies help her and she probly realised her mistake couldn't fix it like she says she power but can't reverse it
1 likeSorry I wrote alot it could be other ponies but that is my theory
Hey Brony Notion you when Lauren Faust said “who controls the sun moon and stars think of season nine who takes over celestia and Lunas place Twilight sparkle! And if you look on her cutie mark there’s Stars!!! She controls the sun moon and stars
3 likesRip Grogar theories
Celestia stole my oc the star alicorn and used her to move the stars. 😋
0 likesit can be twilight because in her cutiemark it has four star os it can be
2 likesMaybe I can help, here is a clue who else can controls the stars. Twillight is a (Star) alicorn, (Star) alicorns are made when a (Star) pony became a alicorn. Like dream ponies, (Star) ponies are powerful and don't need a horn to have magic, but they don't travel to dreams.
0 likesI think it was Starlight who freed nightmare moon
0 likeswhat if it was Starswirl? think about it.... Starswirl was the pony who invented alicorns, right? yes. and Celestia and Luna were the very first alicorns in Equestria, right? yes! so in addition Starswirl gave them all the powers of the ponies, alicorn wings, flowing hair and immortality it could be a possibility that he gave them the power to send someone away but with count down. yeah his name is STARswirl and it sounds predictable but think about it. IF Luna would send Celestia to the moon (or sun for that matter) it would be that the stars will still help Celestia out, same with Luna... Luna is sent away and then the stars help her out... Starswirl knew that IF one of the sisters were in danger, the stars would still help them out in ANY situation... trapped in a cage or lost in a forrest. the stars will guide them out or help them find FREEDOM because he knows that Equestria need more than one leader.... that is why the main six are in charge for the safety in Equestria... because it is more than ONE! hope u see this and I love your videos :)
0 likesi have an idea for another theory! or another question- why do the dazzlings turn to humans but they look like dragons? and spike turns into a dog- why wouldn’t they turn into dogs?
0 likesWait twilight has a star in her cutie mark and she’s now the ruler of equestria controlling the sun and the moon so she could control the stars at the start of the first episode she have learned at clelestia school
1 likeUhh - the only person that comes into my mind is star swirl, because he’s a powerful unicorn and he and other unicorns controlled the sun, and I know he couldn’t be the one who controls the starts because he was in this "prison" ( I forgot the name of it) . Unless ... 😂😂
0 likesum... isnt the sun a star, she wouldnt have to control all stars, just a few , the sun and the 4 stars to set her sister free, she more powerful then we can understand in my statement
0 likesi love this new upload schedule!!!
0 likesShould u rewatch the first episode of the first season because in one of the season it show that princess twilight had to go back the the past so it could be princess Celestia because it show he using the elements of Harmony
0 likesThat’s not true because Celestia can control the sun and the sun is a star 💫
0 likesWhat about the first gala, and Celestia nephew that was presents that rarity was talking about , but he’s not an alicorn, so that does not add up.
0 likesSometimes I don't trust celestia
0 likesMaybe not who controls but what triggers the stars?
1 likeMe: the sonic rainboom that gave the mane six their cutie marks.
Maybe.
Other guess is a pony that can have access to both day and night but that a long shot. ✌️
I feel like it's disrespectful to not belive that it is CANON if she said that it is then its CANON an we cannot said or do anything about her version of the story
0 likesOh man never stop the theories mate😇
0 likesIt was twilight she did it on accèdent not knowing it was her
1 likeIt was Starswirl because he has star in his name
0 likesMabye star swirl before disappearing with the other pillars controlled the stars and after disappearing they just stayed there and the sun overpowers them like in our world
0 likesIdk
What about the great seedling what could it be?
0 likesMby some new villain who is hiding all these 9 seasons🤔
1 likeI mean, the Sun is a star :)
0 likesprinses luna controls the night and the moon and the stars to! so princes luna got control on the stars maybe she escaped from her self? but waited for thousand years? that what I think
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maybe she was to weak to come back idk ?
0 likesPersonally i believe the being to be scorpan
1 likeThe sun is ctrl celestia moon by luna stars by discord
1 likeI think twilight controls the stars I don't know why
0 likesWho controlled the stars... I did uwu
2 likeswait for stars so mabe the tree-like mind controls the pristine to make her move the stars to the right but as user mind controls she can see everything that she was doing while controls then she unwilling gave her self to nightmare moon then the tree can mind-controlled someone but if you say NO ONE CAN GET MIND CONTROL to look at foldeshy frand
2 likesI know my spellings are bad I am only in grade school but I think it a good theory
like if agreed
I think celestia little sister trys to get out of the moon that celestia trap her in the sky..but or maybe....maybe that she knew that celestia was gonna trap her in the moon so she tells all of the villain to rescue her from the moon and then she might says to them she will give them something very expensive to them for a return...idk thats the only thing that i remembered in my mind
0 likesEhem, If I may... THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CONTROLES THE STARS!!! WHO DOESE TWILIGHT LOOK UP TO OTHER THEN THE PRINCESSES??? (STARSWEARL THE BEARDED) Its either that or Twilight herself but I don't think she's that strong yet. <YET
0 likesIm kinda thinking it was twiligth but she was just a unicorn, but i kinda support that theory bc the stars on her cutie Mark, maybe she lifted the curse when that magical explosion happened when she was a filly? Tell me, what do you think of this theory?
0 likesWell i think its Celestia she properly wants luna back or she lost control of the stars or something
0 likesWho planted the tree, who's name has star in it
0 likesI think I have a theory as to why celestia can only move the sun.
2 likesThe sun in equestria may actually be a star. But just because celestia can raise one star doesn't mean celestia can control all stars. What if celestia is only capable of moving only one star, which is the sun. Just like how luna can only move one moon.
It's possible that what the two sisters raise depends on what magic they have. That means they can only move the sun and the moon and nothing else.
As for the stars that aid nightmare moon's return, I don't think they're actual stars. Think of it this way, if stars are burning orb like our world then bringing them to the moon would have just burnt the moon. Yet if they're just normal glowing orbs of light then bringing it to the moon would've done nothing. It was magic that released nightmare moon. So what if the stars that aid in her escape weren't actual stars but rather stars made of magic.
Someone could've used magic to create four stars that would help release nightmare moon. Someone like the tree of harmony.
Now this can go a few ways.
1. The tree of harmony could've made those stars itself.
OR
2. Based on the brony notion's theory, all the tree of harmony had to do was move the stars that imprisoned grogar.
Or maybe
3. Gusty never vanished grogar to the stars. What if she turned him into stars? Grogar could have very well moved himself or moved with the help of the tree of harmony and release nightmare moon.
Who knows?
Can she open it herself she controls the Stars if she can control the star she can probably look out of it as I mean is the Moon if you can look at all the moons but I see to control them which can also control the Stars so it's probably is herself there's an answer
0 likesI'm kind of leading to a third sister or crazy cousin...But maybe Luna herself set herself free
0 likesI think twilight controls the stars or maybe Luna but twilight has a star on her cutie mark soo must be twilight
0 likesWhat about Prince Blueblood?
0 likesI still think it’s grogar😂
0 likesI’m Sad Mlp Ended I Liked Rainbow Dash's Old Hair Better ):
0 likesStars might be other suns and planets
0 likesI think twilight sparkle controls the stars
0 likesDEBUNK
0 likesThis theory is not possible, tree of harmony did not have elements at that time.
Tree used elements to send her on the moon, so tree of harmony would need them to bring Nightmare back.
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the tree still had power without the elements, and it could still orchestrate events to give the elements new bearers.
0 likesalso, the elements were needed to bring LUNA back, but Nightmare Moon returned without them.
Who's grogar?
0 likesI haven't seen the new season yet
Isn't Twilights cutie mark a star? 👀
0 likesWhat if the tree corse the star?! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
0 likesTromba: I think I was a little too crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical & crazy & hysterical... (Fades out as he crashes into the stars)
0 likesAnd again Celestia send Luna away so Celestia has to free or maybe another villian
0 likesOkay but she wrote the episode lmao.
0 likesSister the one that controls the stars
0 likesI THINK TWILIGHT DID IT SHE CUTYMARK IS A STAR
1 likeIs it trixie?
0 likesOr daybreaker?
Or ...................luna?
I actually made an oc that will control the stars so maybe my oc lol
0 likesIs there someone living in the tree?
0 likesand also it must be twilight remember she has a star cutie mark and remember her cornation huh i am mlp biggest fan so i noticed
0 likesCelestia releasing nightmare cuz she know that twilight and her frends will deafeat her
0 likesIdk maybe there's a star alicorn out there
0 likesMake a scootaloo one
0 likesprincess luna because she new about the mane 6
1 likeBut stars are also sun's
0 likesStar swirl the bearded???
0 likesSoo I have some ponies in mind:
2 likes1. Celestia's and Luna's parents. We don't know what they can do, how they look, where they are and if they are even alive. But they may understood somehow that Celestia banished her sister to the moon and they couldn't live with that thought anymore or Celestia told them somehow and everyday she was telling them how awful she felt, so her parents helped her, after Celestia told them about a really powerful unicorn in her class(Twilight). Maybe they waited until Twilight reached at a very good magic level and then they would free Luna.
2. Starlight. Although I don't really know, cause at that time I think that starlight was trying to find a village to rule and studied magic at the same time (Flashback 1 when Starlight said she knew Maud cause she asked her something when she was trying to find the Village, Flashback 2 when she she said to Twilight: "Ugh I studied that spell for years!"). She could, but I don't know. Something isn't right with the sentence: Starlight is the one how moved the stars. 🤔
3. Discord. With his magic, he can do anything. And, back to his old self, we could easily say that Discord want Equestria to suffer. He tried years ago, but he didnt make it. Now that he knows about Nightmare moon and that she wasnt going to be stoped, cause she was powerfull, he could release her and then team up with her to destroy and rule Equestria. Of course, after accomplushing that, he would destroy Nightmare Moon and he would rule Equestria all by him self.
4. Luna. Yes she was the prisoner, but we dont know if Celestia used only one spell to banish Luna to the moon. She may send her there with her magic, but she knew that she would come back if she let her free with no barriers. She may used 2 spells, one to send her to the moon and one to make Nightmare Moon not being able to use her magic. Of course that spell lasted only for a thousand years and then Luna escaped at her one. Day by day she pulled the stars closer and closer, cause the spell was slowly becoming powerless, and the moment that the spell broke she escaped ( I hope you can understand what I mean. Sorry my native language isn't English 😄).
Starsswirl couldn't preformed any spells because he was at Limbo. And Twilight couldn't ether, we know why. There are no other ponies that could done such a thing....
SUNSET. Sunset could have done that too. She maybe returned to Equestria, nopony noticed her, and rescued Luna for revenge! 😲
Wow I didn't know that I could say all those thing😂. I know its a lot but that's on my mind. Oh boi😂
I had another idea that even the Tree of Harmony is just a piece in the puzzle .What if Starswirl wasnt banished to limbo at the time of Lunas banishment (or he felt her bannishment as he felt the destruction of the tree )and celestia never planned for her to leave the Moon just like Gusty the great intended to never free Grogar but Starswirl saw(/felt) that Luna being away hurt Celestia deeply and could prevent her from doing her duty and Enchantet the Tree of harmony .Here i have to make a short intermission and explain a detail : In this theorie one of the Purposes of the tree when it was planted was to aid STARSwirl because the Stars inherited a ancient nearly uncontrollable magic in keeping the stars in their place and take over when he became to old to do it. The Trees enchantment works like a simple code in a programm : it searches for new ponys for the elements because luna and celestia couldnt always keep them safe and the only thing he added was a simple if or rather a simple when : If/when the tree found suitable ponys he should free nightmare moon so the elements could reform her to once again help celestia
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Simon SRB WO THATS SOO LONG
0 likesit cuold be that evry star has somepony or something controling them
0 likesIm just saying wut if Nightmaremoon herself freed herself!? Im no scientist who constantly watch MLP when it already ended but this make sense right? On the tree of harmony Luna's cutiemark has a star, and what is visible in night?
0 likesTHE STARS so if this is true look at the video called My Immortal ,i saw that there was a portal to Equestria and Luna came throught but in reality
Nightmaremoon was freed. Like
HMMMM........
1 likeSTAR SWIRL?!
The brony nation APPLEJACK is a unicorn in the ticket master episode
0 likesThe sun is a star
0 likesSo wait does that mean she names the baby ponies because she has visions of the future. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
0 likesLUNA rises the moon AND the stars
0 likesThis is kinda a stupid theory but what if it was sunset shimmer, although I really like mlp i haven't watched all the episodes so this probably isn't true
0 likesthe sun is the star...
0 likesThe sun is a star...
0 likesI know it was twilelight SPARKOL she has The Star on her leg so ya
0 likesTHAT WAS LUNA NOT CELESTIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesWelp my discord theory is thrown out the window
0 likesOMG ANOTHER VIDEO. I love this video
0 likesI think maybe Cadance, idk
0 likesWhy does Lauren have a cat as profile???
0 likesAren’t pony’s more important than cat’s?
Ok no effence to cats, cats are cute?
I wonder if this is a fake Lauren 😯
Who crotrol the star? Who have a star in its name? Hehe
1 likeHey bn I know all the elements of disharmony
0 likesSun = Stars
0 likesCan you make a video about pony age.
0 likesWHAT IS STARSWIRLS CUTIE MARK I GOTTA KNOW
1 likeze stars were controled bu gravitational forces!
0 likesI have a question. do pony die?
0 likesIn the episode where the main 6 tern into breezys why does pinkies cutie mark disappear
1 likeI Believe There is Another
0 likesWHAT THE STAR WELL IT MORE LIKE THE DREAM
0 likesTwilight’s cutiemarks are stars and star
0 likesIt’s been a few days since April fools no thanks
0 likesFlurry the princesses of what do you know
0 likesSince people have oc ponies do ponies have oc humans ? Is any one with me?
0 likesWhat about sunset Shimmer
0 likes(I am putting a comment that I put on the last video as it seems you didn't see it I assume)[if you have read this already then you can just ignore this]
0 likesBrony Notion hope that you see this comment ,these are my thoughts about the dream waking team ,I can only thought up of some small conclusion while can't really thought of a big conclusion , so hope that you can do a big conclusion with your analytical skill . ( I don't comment much so my wording on some stuff might sound weird , also if my wording does offend you in anyway I aplogize ,and if anyone is reading this is wondering I am a fulttershy type of a guy)
Conclusion-C
Theory-T
Celestia draged Luna to Starlight's dream (royal problem)
Luna can put multiple ponies in one dream but the more ponies the more difficult it is to control(does prinesses dream of magic sheep)
C : there can be more then 2 real ponies mind in the same "main dream"
Luna can create semi sentient creature's that can effect the dream realm like the Tantabus (does prinesses dream of magic sheep)
Starlight explains that her own magic is tied to her emotions—the stronger she feels, the stronger her magic (all bottled up)
T : Tantabus was created to do negative intent like giving nightmare so it had a possibility of it going rouge to seek out more victims when it has collected enough let say corresponding "psychic power" which is Negetive like fear/guilt and so on cause it is it's intital purpose like making an AI and let it learn and grow toward it's purpose , so making a being that is similar to Tantabus that is kind and want to help ponies in their dreams will have a very low chance of going rouge
C : so Luna can also create other semi sentient creature that is good to dive into other ponies dream to help them , or help the dream walking team to visit other ponies dream
complicated spells like moving the sun can be cast by multiple magically gifted unicorn but it is very difficult and magic draining for those who's talent is not spec on it (horse play)
T : Tantabus was able to hold it's own form by absorbing it's corrisponding "pcychic power" , so with "nice Tentabus" can also have power similar abilities to Tantabus when absorbed enough corresponding "psychic power" which is positive like happiness
C : the dream walking team can funtion without Luna's present ,but it would require multiple gifted unicorn to perform dream walking spell or find a successor to Luna and have he/she perform said spell or have the "good Tantabus " perform these spell
everyone in the share dream can use their magic and imagination and you can do and be anything in a dream and even becoming an Alicorn (does prinecesses dream of magic sheep)
when Luna have Celestia's cutie mark or magic ,she can't do anything in Starlight's dream while knowing she can use her imagination [this could be debunk by saying Luna have some bad imagination but I think is highly unlikely] (royal problem)
T/C : creature can only use their magic or imagination in their "main dream" but when they are moved to another creature "main dream" they can't use their magic or imagination , by fusing two "main dream" to a "shared dream" so both creature can use their magic or imagination , and Luna's main power in the dream realm is the ability to make "shared dream"
not so related stuff :
all/some magic spells are based on incantation (magical mystery cure , uncommon bond , shadow play)
Twilight teaches magic to Swettie Bell step by step (twilight time)
Starlight explains that her own magic is tied to her emotions—the stronger she feels, the stronger her magic (all bottled up)
T : when casting a spell an unicorns place all the the incantation or steps in their mind to cast it but if you think it that way it would take too long and we can clearly see some spells can just be cast in a fly even powerful one that is seen in Shadow play , so I recon that spells' effects are based on ones intent (which can explain incantations on scrolls) and imagination while emotion emplifies the power
C : all magic could be said to be their own imagination , if casting magic is almost the same as imagining it to happen
Wat if the stars don’t move and In the next my little pony flry hart is the controller of the stars
0 likesWhen did you start posting again-
1 likeTwilight might because of her cutie mark plz give shout out
0 likesThey broke the curse
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Twilight inderectly bailed her out.
0 likes“You just can’t argue with the creator” “bet.” K then
1 likeWasn’t rainbow dash the deliverer Of the rainboom? I haven’t watched the series in a while so if I’m wrong yeah
sun is star
0 likesMaybe it’s you??🤯
1 likeThe princesse of friendship
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Her desteny
0 likesShe knows the day of release of **********
0 likesbut its just me all Item are conected to harmony
0 likeshead explodes
0 likesLook maybe it’s because the gravity I don’t know I don’t think so because I was going to do animations that pony control the stars I was going to do that but I’m still thinking about it how to do all the international that stuff you know so this is a Coincidence OK just saying
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0 likesoops my hoof slipped
0 likesIt is good video
0 likesim soo angry
0 likesHi the brony nation!
0 likesI want to asking you, how old are you? If you can't to tell me I'm totally fine with that.
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I'm 13 and still love mlp
1 likeI'm not exactly 13, something close to that age. And I'm really lovvveee mlp. A lot of people always say I'm to big for that, but I so love it i just CAN'T stop
0 likes@Bright Light I turn 14 this year, which makes it worse for me
1 likeOh.
0 likesI think you'll survive 😉
You always can say "I want to stay young a lot time I could "
@Bright Light yes
1 likeYou know, I was so much happy when I read what you write.
1 likeI really happy because of you say all that.
I happy to see I'm not the only one who still like mlp.
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CADENCE
0 likesoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
0 likesWhat wowwwwwwwwww
0 likesJeSUS
0 likesI am not sure
0 likes🚫☀️ 🌟🌕
0 likesyou are giving spulers
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there is no sessen 9
0 likesO mayoma
0 likesOr maybe not hehe
0 likesWeat
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