IMO, Queen Celestia is responsible for all of it, from the first episode up to Twilight Sparkle's coronation as Princess. Celestia had visions of the future, and followed what she saw in order to "teach" Twilight how to become Princess. Destiny (and visions of the future) completely denies free will, especially when the visions come true.<br>Just one person's opinion.

IMO, Queen Celestia is responsible for all of it, from the first episode up to Twilight Sparkle's coronation as Princess. Celestia had visions of the future, and followed what she saw in order to "teach" Twilight how to become Princess. Destiny (and visions of the future) completely denies free will, especially when the visions come true.
Just one person's opinion.


I think the challenges they faced in the first two ep.  Is nightmare moon trying to stop them from getting to the element's.


Actually I always thought celestia controlled those stars so she could free nightmare moon because She literally banished her own sister that must have hurt a lot so she probably wanted to see her again and felt 1000 years is better than forever


They secretly have a third sibling locked in the dungeons who controls the stars.<br>But it's a brother, so it's okay, seeing that most of the stallions get the short end of the stick overall...

They secretly have a third sibling locked in the dungeons who controls the stars.
But it's a brother, so it's okay, seeing that most of the stallions get the short end of the stick overall...


Star swirl controls the stars, and a part of Star swirl went into the making of the tree of harmony.

Star swirl controls the stars, and a part of Star swirl went into the making of the tree of harmony.

and he used to raise the son and the moon with other ponies.. it makes sense

and he used to raise the son and the moon with other ponies.. it makes sense

@Ashwitha Peddi wait but in the episode of season 6 where we see flurry heart for the first time they said the she was the first pony that was born as an alicorn or something like that I don’t remember what they exactly said

True true but no he was traped between time and space ...

True true but no he was traped between time and space ...

Star swirl went to limbo before they defeated nightmare moon

Star swirl went to limbo before they defeated nightmare moon

Yes.
STARswirl
Wait who did it when he was in limbo?

Yes.
STARswirl
Wait who did it when he was in limbo?

Wait this actually makes a lot of sense-

Wait this actually makes a lot of sense-

But Star Swirlwas not in there he was in a different realm I think

But Star Swirlwas not in there he was in a different realm I think

Have there been any instances in the series where we see Or get told Starswirl genuinely manipulated the stars?? 🧐

Have there been any instances in the series where we see Or get told Starswirl genuinely manipulated the stars?? 🧐

Me to star swirl is control the star celestia is sun and Luna is moon

Me to star swirl is control the star celestia is sun and Luna is moon

Starseirl<br>Yes he is the onley one who know about magic and it can be the who controls the stars

Starseirl
Yes he is the onley one who know about magic and it can be the who controls the stars

@Morro fan so? He didn’t have to know about twilight. He just had to know about nightmare moon. Read the previous conversations

@Morro fan so? He didn’t have to know about twilight. He just had to know about nightmare moon. Read the previous conversations

@Shadow Bolt Prince star swirl had no trust when nearing twilight at first

@Shadow Bolt Prince star swirl had no trust when nearing twilight at first

He vanished himself at this point he was still vanished

He vanished himself at this point he was still vanished

U have a point, from the name of STAR swirl he might control 'em

U have a point, from the name of STAR swirl he might control 'em

@Shadow Bolt Prince after I think about it star swril nor celestia balled out nightmare moon,remember when Faust said celestia and luna were naturally born as alicorns

@Shadow Bolt Prince after I think about it star swril nor celestia balled out nightmare moon,remember when Faust said celestia and luna were naturally born as alicorns

But I thought that star swirl was at limbo in that time

But I thought that star swirl was at limbo in that time

@alex whittingham wait I have a question is it pinkie sense how you say “pinkie sentido” (Spanish) in English? You know when she predicts if something will fall from the sky for example

@Shadow Bolt Prince my theory was that starswirl and celestia planned all of bringing back nightmare moon

@Shadow Bolt Prince my theory was that starswirl and celestia planned all of bringing back nightmare moon

@· My Little Pony Episodes · ? Do you mean what I said of that maybe they planned all for years?

@· My Little Pony Episodes · ? Do you mean what I said of that maybe they planned all for years?

@alex whittingham OMG WATCH THIS AT 6:37 https://youtu.be/mX0WVX4Hkn8 it’s that like the sun?? So is that the difference between their sun and ours?

@alex whittingham OMG WATCH THIS AT 6:37 https://youtu.be/mX0WVX4Hkn8 it’s that like the sun?? So is that the difference between their sun and ours?

@alex whittingham yes true cause she knew exactly where all the files were

@alex whittingham yes true cause she knew exactly where all the files were

@Espresso but remember the files they were also in the main hall when the mayor and applejack were there searching for a certain file maybe that where pinkie pie got the files

@alex whittingham my theory is that pinkie pie is one of the gift givers because at the first movie of eg (equestria girls) the other pinkie pie of equestria girls guessed all about twilight like if they knew each other for years like she guessed that she was a pony princess etc. When twilight came back to equestria the normal pinkie guessed that flash sentry invited her to dance there were 3 gift givers in “the best gift ever” one sees the past other stays at the present the other sees the future there could one the sees what happens in parallel dimensions and I have other proof the (pause for dramatic moment) the pinkie sense (I think that is the way you say it in English) I mean she could predice things like the gift giver that sees the future and pinkie pie is a pony who always knows what ponies like remember the secret planing cave of pinkie (I think that’s how you say it on English) she had information files of everyone in ponyville maybe she could see what happens in other worlds or know everything about the existence of equestria ok no but maybe she could know what are the problems of other ponies remember the song smile she always helped ponies solve their problems and maybe see what is happening in other dimensions or worlds to help but why pinkie went with the gift givers then well maybe it was the destiny or maybe she doesn’t remember of what happened in her past with the gift givers maybe the gift givers gave her special powers she didn’t even noticed she had, things just happened for her  and I just remember about madam pinkie XD well that is my theory what do you think? :D

@alex whittingham I HAVE ANOTHER THEORY :D

@alex whittingham I HAVE ANOTHER THEORY :D

@alex whittingham :D if you have any theory you can tell it to me it would be really interesting hearing any other theories:D

@alex whittingham :D if you have any theory you can tell it to me it would be really interesting hearing any other theories:D

@alex whittingham ooohhh yes the memory stone now I remember the part of clever oh clover the- ok understand of sunset shimmer XD

@alex whittingham ooohhh yes the memory stone now I remember the part of clever oh clover the- ok understand of sunset shimmer XD

@Espresso well first off we would need to know what clover the clever did to earn her alicorn status next we would need to study about her past and what she did for a living to determine if she was in the school of magic or if starswirl taught her on his own then we would need to research the seven trials clover the clever did also she did chase down a evil sorcerer with a powerful relic called the memmory stone which could be connected to her earning her alicorn status then you can backup the the theory with the evidence you obtained do that and you will have a really solid theory

@alex whittingham ok look my other theory was that clover the clever was or is a princess first of all twilight acting like clover the clever in an episode said: my mentor starswirl the bearded I know just because he was celestia’s and Luna’s teacher doesn’t prove nothing BUT as celestia, Luna and starswirl are really powerful what means clover the clever was really really powerful and I think anyone noticed that cause she was really intelligent as twilight was acting like that and I investigated more and discovered that clover the clever was a character named clever clover from G2 (generation 2) from the mlp show and I found a video that said remaking at the video cover and the tittle of the video said that they were remaking PRINCESS clever clover now please tell if it is possible or not I need to know if my theory is good

@Espresso understood lets here your other theory

@Espresso understood lets here your other theory

@alex whittingham what I try to say is that celestia could be at the perfect age just to understand the powerful magic when starswirl the bearded didn’t disappeared but I have another theory >:3 tell you later

@Espresso the reason behind that is because without celestia the sun or the moon would not be able to be risen and lowered and we all know how that turned out when discords chaos seeds invaded equestria and took the two princesses hostage next to the tree of harmony  and everything went chaotic during that time the moon nor the sun was lowered or raised they were both in the sky creating half night half day

@alex whittingham it could be possible because in an episode Granny Smith was telling the story of how ponyville was founded she mentioned princess Celestia and she was at the same age she was at the whole series and Granny Smith was old but Celestia never got old while Granny Smith yes

@Espresso not possible because celestia was to young to understand such powerful magic also if that actualy happened celestia would of dealt with it years ago

@Espresso not possible because celestia was to young to understand such powerful magic also if that actualy happened celestia would of dealt with it years ago

Maybe starswirl at the limbo maybe he could make a spell while he was there at the limbo maybe celestia and starswirl planed all for years

Maybe starswirl at the limbo maybe he could make a spell while he was there at the limbo maybe celestia and starswirl planed all for years

not possible by the time nightmare moon escaped star swirl and the other pillars were already in limbo and when star swirl was released he looked drained of his magic meaning he was useing all of his magic to keep the pony of shadows in limbo in otherwords i rest my case

actually star swirl was trapped in the dark realm

actually star swirl was trapped in the dark realm

Star Swirl was in limbo so I don't think he can use magic in limbo

Star Swirl was in limbo so I don't think he can use magic in limbo

She is right stars why was the one who told the original six to plant the seed it was his idea to sent the original six to limbo

She is right stars why was the one who told the original six to plant the seed it was his idea to sent the original six to limbo

But till that time star swirl had banished

But till that time star swirl had banished

Star swirl = Someone who can make the stars swirl AKA control them i agree

Star swirl = Someone who can make the stars swirl AKA control them i agree

@Rabia Fatima not really. Starswirl planted the seed along with the other of the Pillars so yeah it was just part of him.

@Rabia Fatima not really. Starswirl planted the seed along with the other of the Pillars so yeah it was just part of him.

@Rabia Fatima no star swirl and the pillars made a seed.

@Rabia Fatima no star swirl and the pillars made a seed.

Star swirl was the one who created the tree of harmony in the first place

Star swirl was the one who created the tree of harmony in the first place

@angelcat go see the debate that me, Ashwitha Peddi, and Jimmy Orozco had.

@angelcat go see the debate that me, Ashwitha Peddi, and Jimmy Orozco had.

@Jimmy Orozco dr. wolf had a couple videos about the seventh element, I think you should go see them.

@Jimmy Orozco dr. wolf had a couple videos about the seventh element, I think you should go see them.

@Jimmy Orozco did you read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince just asking

@Jimmy Orozco did you read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince just asking

@Ashwitha Peddi yeah I personally think he doesn’t control them too. Kir told me about how in an episode Twilight said “the stars move by themselves over time.”

@Ashwitha Peddi yeah I personally think he doesn’t control them too. Kir told me about how in an episode Twilight said “the stars move by themselves over time.”

@Ashwitha Peddi because it would be mean if he doesn’t have one. It’s just a small lil throne right nexts to Twi’s.

@Ashwitha Peddi because it would be mean if he doesn’t have one. It’s just a small lil throne right nexts to Twi’s.

@Jimmy Orozco read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince about starswril controlling the stars

@Jimmy Orozco read the argument i had with shadow bolt prince about starswril controlling the stars

@Jimmy Orozco then way will spike have a throne

@Jimmy Orozco then way will spike have a throne

@Ashwitha Peddi one of them is green but it’s Fluttershy’s. I fondly remember in the first episode that green gem and Fluttershy loves nature so her gem was green before it turned into a pink necklace

@Jimmy Orozco I read your discussion and i have one thing in problem didn't i disprove the idea that star swril controls the stars

@Jimmy Orozco I read your discussion and i have one thing in problem didn't i disprove the idea that star swril controls the stars

@Ashwitha Peddi oh yeah. It wasn’t really an argument, it was just a back and forth of ideas and theories about the show

@Ashwitha Peddi oh yeah. It wasn’t really an argument, it was just a back and forth of ideas and theories about the show

@Kirk Lundberg in star swrils imaginations the tree of harmony represents seven elements and one of them is green which is spike

@Kirk Lundberg in star swrils imaginations the tree of harmony represents seven elements and one of them is green which is spike

@Jimmy Orozco you know the argumemt krik lundberg

@Jimmy Orozco you know the argumemt krik lundberg

@Kirk Lundberg the elements of harmony represent stuff about friendship so it kinda works<br>Though spike might just have a throne because it would be mean not to give him one

@Kirk Lundberg the elements of harmony represent stuff about friendship so it kinda works
Though spike might just have a throne because it would be mean not to give him one

@Kirk Lundberg see the season seven finale in star swrils imagination how the tree of harmony grew

@Kirk Lundberg see the season seven finale in star swrils imagination how the tree of harmony grew

My guess is that spike is a seventh element, the element of "working through differences". When you think about it, spike is the only dragon permanently living in equestria at the beginning of the show. In equestria girls, sunset is different because she was born a pony. The young 6 don't have this element because they are all from different races. The pillars are the hardest, but terix's brother seems a good fit.

@Jimmy Orozco something that bothers me about the castle is why spike has a throne.

@Jimmy Orozco something that bothers me about the castle is why spike has a throne.

@Kirk Lundberg I’m not really sure. I don’t think it was created to fight chaos but to help the Mane Six realize that they can help others change for the better, and also to give Twi a nice new castle.

@Jimmy Orozco along the lines of chaos/harmony balance was the chest meant to tip the scales out of balance or back into balance?

@Jimmy Orozco along the lines of chaos/harmony balance was the chest meant to tip the scales out of balance or back into balance?

@Jimmy Orozco just have, well thought out theory.

@Jimmy Orozco just have, well thought out theory.

@Kirk Lundberg yes, you should! It’s incredibly good!

@Kirk Lundberg yes, you should! It’s incredibly good!

@Jimmy Orozco I will have to see that theory

@Jimmy Orozco I will have to see that theory

@Kirk Lundberg yes! Watch Sawtooth’s video called “How Discord came to be”. To summarize, he theorizes that when the tree was full grown, Discord was pulled into existence so that there can be a ying-yang balance.

@Jimmy Orozco maybe the spirit of the tree is as old as discord himself...

@Jimmy Orozco maybe the spirit of the tree is as old as discord himself...

@Kirk Lundberg yeah somebody as chaotic as Discord probably would’ve created seeds that can take Celestia and Luna’s powers and used it to make the sun and moon sit in midair

Mabye the plunder seeds themselves were controlling the sun and moon.

Mabye the plunder seeds themselves were controlling the sun and moon.

@Jimmy Orozco discord said that the the plunder seeds were stealing the magic of the tree, the sun and moon were not usually parallel to each other, except when magic was in play, and we know that calestia and luna didn't do it so who or what else controlled the sun and moon?

@Kirk Lundberg and the reason the plunder seeds were growing was because the tree was weakened so the tree couldn’t have been controlling those (the sun and moon)

@Kirk Lundberg and the reason the plunder seeds were growing was because the tree was weakened so the tree couldn’t have been controlling those (the sun and moon)

@Kirk Lundberg i think that happened because Tia and Luna keep the sun and moon in balance, and when they were trapped, they couldn’t keep them in balance so the sun and moon were kinda just there

@Jimmy Orozco I think sawtooth's theory with the tree controling every thing is a valid argument. Think of the sun and moon during the plunder seed incident.

@Jimmy Orozco I think sawtooth's theory with the tree controling every thing is a valid argument. Think of the sun and moon during the plunder seed incident.

@Kirk Lundberg exactly what I mean. And for your edit, idk, maybe. He probably set a spell before he trapped himself, the pillars and the pony of shadows in limbo.

@Kirk Lundberg exactly what I mean. And for your edit, idk, maybe. He probably set a spell before he trapped himself, the pillars and the pony of shadows in limbo.

@Jimmy Orozco you know in the episode where rockhoof is trying to find his place in the world, when he tried to use the stars to navigate the boat twilight said that the stars slowly move over time, suggesting that the stars act the same in equestria as they do in our world, meaning that no one controls the stars. Edit:Or starswirl knew that he would be in limbo, so he put the part of him that controlled the stars into his seed

He was trapped in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so he couldn’t have

He was trapped in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so he couldn’t have

@Kirk Lundberg Thanks. Those are some good theories you have too

@Kirk Lundberg Thanks. Those are some good theories you have too

@Kirk Lundberg But he is a unicorn please re-read the argument i had with shabow bolt prince

@Kirk Lundberg But he is a unicorn please re-read the argument i had with shabow bolt prince

@Ashwitha Peddi mabye Stygian saw visions and he saw a vision of the pony of shadows, so he wanted to be prepared to fight...

@Ashwitha Peddi mabye Stygian saw visions and he saw a vision of the pony of shadows, so he wanted to be prepared to fight...

@Surbhi Goyal he controlled them subconsciously.

@Surbhi Goyal he controlled them subconsciously.

@Ashwitha Peddi That Starswirl May not have been the one to have the vision yes. That the rest of the theory is flawed because of that no. You actually helped me figure out the one thing that I was still scratching my head about.

@Shadow Bolt Prince So you are agreeing with me

@Shadow Bolt Prince So you are agreeing with me

@Ashwitha Peddi You know, that actually makes a lot more sense. Though that would suggest Celestia being a linchpin in this from the very beginning. Well played Hasbro

@Ashwitha Peddi You know, that actually makes a lot more sense. Though that would suggest Celestia being a linchpin in this from the very beginning. Well played Hasbro

@Shadow Bolt Prince Take an example like twilight she never got visions like celestia.Maybe as an alicorn matures her powers grow stronger.

@Shadow Bolt Prince Take an example like twilight she never got visions like celestia.Maybe as an alicorn matures her powers grow stronger.

Unless you think the idea of visions is instinctual. In that case, perhaps Celestia has the visions as a philly and while she was still pupil of Starswirl’s, went to warn the pillars.

@Shadow Bolt Prince Maybe he knew about visions but never got visions

@Shadow Bolt Prince Maybe he knew about visions but never got visions

@Ashwitha Peddi exactly. But it IS cannon that Starswirl was a mentor to Celestia. He probably still had something to do with teaching her about the idea of visions in the first place

@Shadow Bolt Prince A great wizard like star swril would have preparations before sacrificing his life to defeat someone like the pony of shadows edit:and i think starswril would not have visions because he is a unicorn! It would be logial for alicorns to have visions but not unicorns

@Shadow Bolt Prince And maybe celestia knew that the spell would were off  as she banished nightmare nightmare moon

@Shadow Bolt Prince And maybe celestia knew that the spell would were off  as she banished nightmare nightmare moon

@Ashwitha Peddi Please re-read what I said in the comment directly above your 7-8 minute ago one. And if there is any other part of this you would like me to talk about please let me know because I am a big fan of this sort of thing and like talking to others about it

@Ashwitha Peddi which is why I mentioned the visions

@Ashwitha Peddi which is why I mentioned the visions

@Shadow Bolt Prince And star swrils banishment to limbo was before night mare moon

@Shadow Bolt Prince And star swrils banishment to limbo was before night mare moon

@Ashwitha Peddi That’s the thing. The prophecy has nothing to do with the main six. It only has to do with her imprisonment which was long before twilight and her friends were even born

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never knew about nightmare moon Mistmane's quote: We wanted to do something to protect the ralm in our absence

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never knew about nightmare moon Mistmane's quote: We wanted to do something to protect the ralm in our absence

@Ashwitha Peddi Starswirl probably foresaw either Luna slowly turning resentful, the battle between Celestia and Luna or Luna’s imprisonment itself, and that’s why he had no idea who twilight was. It was Celesta who figured out the details of what would happen after nightmare moon was free

@Ashwitha Peddi  the prophecy from episode 1 goes into detail about how nightmare moon wanted to take over equestria but eneded up in prisoned in the moon ant that “on the longest day of the thousandth year, she would bring about nighttime eternal”. It says nothing about the main six coming to defeat her. It was also said to be from “old pony times.” And this theory is about the legend, not what happens after it.

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew the accomplish ments of the main six see the episode

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew the accomplish ments of the main six see the episode

@Ashwitha Peddi yes. The details are about what would happen with nightmare moon. Not what would happen with the main six

@Ashwitha Peddi yes. The details are about what would happen with nightmare moon. Not what would happen with the main six

@Shadow Bolt Prince But theorys need details.

@Shadow Bolt Prince But theorys need details.

@Ashwitha Peddi he didn’t need to. We all know that this show has prophecies that don’t require that level of detail. He just needed to see nightmare moon coming and would also explain why one of their last actions prior to limbo would be to make a special trip, deep into the forest to place a single seed in the ground.

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew who twilight was before the season 7 finale

@Shadow Bolt Prince Star swril never even knew who twilight was before the season 7 finale

yea but wait, star swirl was banished along with the mane 6 then, so how could that be the case if he was the one that free nightmare moon?

yea but wait, star swirl was banished along with the mane 6 then, so how could that be the case if he was the one that free nightmare moon?

I was thinking the same thing, and plus; it’s in his name lol

I was thinking the same thing, and plus; it’s in his name lol

@ AnimeGrove but starswirl was in the past, now how does that work

@ AnimeGrove but starswirl was in the past, now how does that work

@Team dreamers cadance protects the heart in the crystal empire not the stars

@Team dreamers cadance protects the heart in the crystal empire not the stars

@Saida Jan if u hate it then why are u watching it

@Saida Jan if u hate it then why are u watching it

No he does not oh, also theres one character      <br>okay kind of two, but evwn more hidden unless you live in the U.S.A no but everyone else hard to maoe sence , 1. Luna her name is latin for the moon. 2. Celestia NASA did something for the sun . Soo names don't play such a big role in determining what a pony controls big shining example trixie cutie mark: Moon Power: Stage triks. theory debunked.

No he does not oh, also theres one character
okay kind of two, but evwn more hidden unless you live in the U.S.A no but everyone else hard to maoe sence , 1. Luna her name is latin for the moon. 2. Celestia NASA did something for the sun . Soo names don't play such a big role in determining what a pony controls big shining example trixie cutie mark: Moon Power: Stage triks. theory debunked.

Yeah that could be it just look at his name <b>Star</b> swirl

Yeah that could be it just look at his name *Star* swirl

HE WAS TRAPPED IN LIMBO WITH OTHER PILLARS OF EQESTRIA

HE WAS TRAPPED IN LIMBO WITH OTHER PILLARS OF EQESTRIA

What? Star swirl doesn’t control the stars.

What? Star swirl doesn’t control the stars.

@Roc San Doesn't mean to be rude I am just saying

@Roc San Doesn't mean to be rude I am just saying

Youssef Hany You’re right but I’m sorry but the way that you said all of that just kind of got annoying

Youssef Hany You’re right but I’m sorry but the way that you said all of that just kind of got annoying

Wrong. The corrections is Star swirl was vanishes over 1000 years when he and the other send the shadow to the limbo he first appearance in Season 7.

Wrong. The corrections is Star swirl was vanishes over 1000 years when he and the other send the shadow to the limbo he first appearance in Season 7.

There was no evidence that he controlled the stars before being trapped in limbo

There was no evidence that he controlled the stars before being trapped in limbo

Team dreamers star swirl was in limbo for 1000+ years , along with the pillars he is not able to move the stars at all

Team dreamers star swirl was in limbo for 1000+ years , along with the pillars he is not able to move the stars at all

Star swirl was in limbo for over 1000+ years , he is not able to control the stars

Star swirl was in limbo for over 1000+ years , he is not able to control the stars

And plus star is in star swirls name like he must cntroll the stars but if I am wrong than I think Celestia cntlolls the stars because in the day the stars are still there only of the bright light they do not show

Tho he was in the past, now how does that work

Tho he was in the past, now how does that work

I thought it was Cadanse controling the stars, but it gives more sence with Starswirl

I thought it was Cadanse controling the stars, but it gives more sence with Starswirl

Maybe it can be star swirl because he has a star in his cutie mark and name and isn't your cutie mark your destiny. He also taught luna so it would make sense but wasn't he stuck in limbo . Maybe he could see what's happening like how discord could to

But star swirls cutie mark it may be a star

But star swirls cutie mark it may be a star

Thx for more info but don’t worry I credited ya so I’m just making sure u don’t say I stole that part and again thx for the info

Thx for more info but don’t worry I credited ya so I’m just making sure u don’t say I stole that part and again thx for the info

My thoughts exactly. It was probably all planned out by the original six before they went to limbo. But if this is the case, how? Has starswirl ever had visions like celestia?


may be celestia waited 1000 years so that the four stars could come in a perfect order because if she had to wait for the main six she would have done it before 1000 year's day when twilight was her students and if twilight was her students the main six must have grown enough to understand the situation<br>May I am correct please consider my theory once 😁😁😁

may be celestia waited 1000 years so that the four stars could come in a perfect order because if she had to wait for the main six she would have done it before 1000 year's day when twilight was her students and if twilight was her students the main six must have grown enough to understand the situation
May I am correct please consider my theory once 😁😁😁


"Technically", the sun IS a star... But heh, in a world where the sun rises at the same point the moon falls x')


Well, I think yes. I mean, of course she would miss her sister. Also, in order for Twilight to make friends and become the princess, she would need to release her.


doesn't luna control the stars I think the stars were controled by the ✨spirit of the elements of harmony tree ✨ and luna was waiting for the day the elements would let her out.....k know I don't wanna sound crazy BUT DIDNT LUNA AND CELESTIA HAVE POWER OVER THE TREE OF HARMONY LUNA LET HER SELF OUT ITS SORTA CLEAR! AND SHE THE CREATER WAS PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT LUNA AS IN THE PRESENT SHE CONTROLS THE MOON AND STARS! if u like my thoughts give a like 👍


The sun is a star, so Celestia could be considered someone who controls stars but we only see her control the sun so we wouldn't know if she controls other stars or not.

In her world it's a star, but it isn't said in the mlp world to be cannon


I know this was a year ago however I can’t help but remember. Starswirl and some other unicorns raised and lowered the sun and moon before Tia and Luna took over. Perhaps he had something to do with the return of nightmare moon?


Just saying, our dear Twili released Star Swirl without really thinking. And look at her cutie mark, it’s made of STARS. Is it possible that she’s the ruler of stars which is why she could kind of control the sun and moon (the sun is a star) when the magic of all of the main princesses was transferred to her when Terik took over. Granted, it was hard for her to position the sun/moon, it was possible and she did do it. It’s possible that she rules over Equestria , the stars and is the Princess of Friendship (therefore making her the most powerful princess known to equestria yet). She may have set free Nightmare Moon to show a point that she was right about seeing the signs of her return. Seeing as her only drive back then was magic and not friendship, I was thinking maybe it could be true. Just a quick theory tho.


What I think is that when Celesta sent Luna to the moon it kinda set a spell that in a thousand years Luna would be done with her punishment and return so not celesta herself more the elements of harmony/her sending Luna/nightmare moon to the moon did. Even in the book it says Luna would be back in a thousand years meaning she was meant to come back, so when she was sent there it must have been set for only a thousand years. Another thing why would celesta send her sister to the moon and not try to have her come back again. So it makes sense that when she sent her there she made a time for her to come back.


for the one who controls the stars...i think its gusty the great! im not so certain i might as well have to lok back through her history, the one im talking about is the one who locked away grogars bell, until tirek, cozy and chrysalis screwed it up!


Am I the only one who’s wondering, wth happened to Prince Blueblood. All we knew about him is that he’s Celestia and Lunas Nephew and then he was never heard from again

Sounds like the beginning of a murder mystery to me.

What I wonder more than that: how the hell do they have a nephew?! As far as I know there are only two princess sisters, meaning there is no third party. He is referred to as "Celestias nephew" multiple time which would mean that Luna is his mother. But that would also mean the Blueblood, a normal unicorn, would be over thousands od years old. But being a normal unicorn, he probably isn't immortal. Luna has no boyfriend, at least it's not shown and even of she had, Blueblood would either be dead or very very young if you think about the timeline. Luna was in the moon for over a thousand years. Had she gained a sun before Nightmare Moon, he would be dead. Had gained one after the Mane Six defeated her, Blueblood would be to young to participate at the gala.

The rest of main six jumped him after he rejected rares

If he was there nephew then is it possible that celestia and luna have a brother

Elias <br>... would’ve been better than the storm king

Elias
... would’ve been better than the storm king

TC 182 from the research I’ve seen they have a colt who “controls the stars” but I’ve never seen their dad and in the photo they where alicorns at such a young age? other than that this is quite interesting as I’ve watched mlp for 5 years + good luck on your research

Wait, the sisters are over a thousand years old so.... that would make Prince Blueblood compared to his sisters his great great great great great great great great <del>many greats later</del> great aunt??? Wait.... Celestia and Luna had another sister if Prince Blueblood were their nephew :0 Edit: I also wanted to add the way this works is if your sister (if you have one) has children, the male son to you your nephew, same goes for the daughter but called niece.

Wait, the sisters are over a thousand years old so.... that would make Prince Blueblood compared to his sisters his great great great great great great great great -many greats later- great aunt??? Wait.... Celestia and Luna had another sister if Prince Blueblood were their nephew :0 Edit: I also wanted to add the way this works is if your sister (if you have one) has children, the male son to you your nephew, same goes for the daughter but called niece.

TC 182 Sun, Moon, Day, Night? Dawn? Or Eclipse maybe?

My personal theory is that they have along lost sibling, perhaps the sibling controlled the stars, maybe the sibling is evil (explains blue blood). He/She could have aided in Nightmare Moons escape as revenge on celestia.

Elias 👀👀
WhAt?! They had/have a brother?
It’s not actually official anymore. But, atleast we know the writers were deciding on having another sibling for the sisters-

Leila Lin, her magic is for the crystal heart not the stars

@TC 182 In the MLP Movie, there was a scrapped villain, Celestia's alicorn brother Cosmos.

@TC 182 well Celestia adopted Cadence as her niece so maybe prince Blueblood was an orphan and she took pity on him and adopted him but that's just a theory

As he said in another theory celestia and Luna are from another land so what if blueblood is  there.........WELL ITS JUST A THEORY

BHASWATI DEY It’s Princess Mi Amore Cadenza AKA Cadence (which is short for Cadenza)

I always thought that prince blueblood is just the last remaining member of the original unicorn family, and he is a descendant of Princess platinum, and so Celestia adopted him into the current royal family.

@TC 182 it could have been there cousin's son

Also who's there sibling or did one of them have a kid?!

@TC 182 Maybe that Princess of the Stars theory isn't too off...

Keep Calm & Contemplate Your Life Choices

TC 182 Maybe Princess Sterling and Gold Lily, they weren’t introduced into the series but they were released as toys.

That means that Luna and Celestia basically have another sibling, DAN DAN DANNNNN!

BHASWATI DEY Princess Amore was the first Queen/princess of the Crystal Empire before the rise of King Sombra in the mlp comics.

And I am wondering who was Princess Amore

Melody I looked it up earlier and I think I know how he’s related. When your cousin has a kid, it says it’s not actually called a “second cousin” but actually your niece/nephew, and if they have to be technical it’s your “first cousin once removed” but the title still stands. So maybe one of their cousins had Prince Blueblood.

@Autum Breeze Perhaps the Sisters (as the show seems to indicate they themselves ascended to alicorn status) were part of this ruling family.

@TC 182 Long since dead? Perhaps called a "nephew" but are really many times great grand of one or the other? Hard to say how many spouses Celestia has had over the years.

@TC 182 or he's only referred to as a nephew because all the Canterlot prince and Princesses who AREN'T Alicorns adopted them into the Royal family when the two took rule of Equestria. After all, there was a unicorn Royal family before the sisters took over, I doubt they just disbursed after that.

Unicorns are too snobby for that

He was in the background for a while on and off. Idk what happened to him at the end though.

I’ve actually been wondering this also for yeeaaaarrrs. Please give me answers :3


But at that time (during Luna's banishment at the moon) Celestia was controlling both the sun and the moon. So it would make sense for Celestia to be the one. Maybe she even added the "when four stars meet" thing in the first place, to find the ones who are careful enough to follow the patterns and can actually help Luna. Everyone seemed to forget Luna's existence besides Twilight, it would make a lot of sense for Celestia to trust her and free Nightmare Moon.


You know when you said the tree of harmony used grodon I thought that can’t be true but what if the pony that trapped him (forgets the ponies name) then traveled to the future and trapped him in the tree of harmony with the last of her power so the tree could trap grodon in the tree to the end of time but he might be out of it now because it was destroyed or he is now trapped in the treehouse of harmony


guys, i have a theory. what if  starswirl the bearded controlled the stars  while in limbo? his name is litterally star-swirl. and even in limbo, his magic could easily control the stars. maybe he knew about celestia missing the long lost memories of her and luna that she blocked out all those years, and wanted  to test her leadership... and help her remember the times when she and her sister were friends, and reform luna. or maybe he was  testing LUNA.. he could have been testing luna, teaching her to embrace her powers and use them for good and  not evil.


Hi Sawtooth Waves Im a huge fan!<br>Yesterday I was bored, so I decided to watch My Little Pony again starting from season one episode one. And while I was watching  I saw   a little pattern on the book that Twilight was reading, I saw the stars formed a pattern thatl was similar on what Twilight saw. So I watched the whole video and thought again, it might be the stars. But I was not sure yet so I watched your video and thought, maybe Im right or wrong so I decided to comment tit and this is that comment.  ( Can I please get a shoutout )

Hi Sawtooth Waves Im a huge fan!
Yesterday I was bored, so I decided to watch My Little Pony again starting from season one episode one. And while I was watching  I saw   a little pattern on the book that Twilight was reading, I saw the stars formed a pattern thatl was similar on what Twilight saw. So I watched the whole video and thought again, it might be the stars. But I was not sure yet so I watched your video and thought, maybe Im right or wrong so I decided to comment tit and this is that comment.  ( Can I please get a shoutout )


What if sense Celestia can see visions the Tree of Harmony showed her a vision of the stars lining up then she saw it her self after ward?<br>Edit:what if "who controls the stars" is Twilight? Her cutie mark is stars, and after The Two Sisters retired she controls the sun and moon (and the sun is a star). And after all Celestia can and has predicted the future and "watched over twilight" the whole time of her journey (Celstias Ballad). Also Fuast might have waited to tweet it after the show to hint it was Twilight (beacuse in the last episode she's the ruler of Equestria). Also Twilight has shown time travel is a thing (just something to think about)

What if sense Celestia can see visions the Tree of Harmony showed her a vision of the stars lining up then she saw it her self after ward?
Edit:what if "who controls the stars" is Twilight? Her cutie mark is stars, and after The Two Sisters retired she controls the sun and moon (and the sun is a star). And after all Celestia can and has predicted the future and "watched over twilight" the whole time of her journey (Celstias Ballad). Also Fuast might have waited to tweet it after the show to hint it was Twilight (beacuse in the last episode she's the ruler of Equestria). Also Twilight has shown time travel is a thing (just something to think about)

I think you all are right because Twilight knows spells so she could have done it.but at the same time Sunset Shimmer may have done it.but it will make more sense if it was Twilight. so i am with you guys

But you see TheQweenOfGoats its different there the sun and stars are probably different then the real world

I think celestia could see visions
of twighlight with her friends
so she released nightmare moon on purpose

Hmm, I think you guys are onto something 🤔 the brony notion should make a vid about this

Wow I think you guys are right the question is when did Twilight Sparkle's go back in time and about how they all got cuties marks can there be a connection from past present furter and starts from all 3 of those destiny as whole.  And the the Tree Of Harmony is possible that the connection of that tree look like star in the center of it and seems be the same one on Twilight cutie mark.

maybe twilight went back in time and aligned the stars the way they were in the first/second and then realized she was the one who set nightmare moon/ luna free, which ment she was the one who controled her destiny from then on, because chain reaction of that happened. that could be the actual thing that happened


Maybe when Twilight appeared it caused Nightmare moon’s escape. Her cutie does have a few stars on it. So, maybe she caused the help of her arrival and allowed the gateway to open.


I still have one question where did celestia go in the first sighting of night mare moon???


This is just adding stuff to the cannon because then discord would have gotten realeased after nightmare moon


I believe Twilight and her friends meeting for the first time released Luna because Twilight is the link between Celestia and Luna. I mean think about it, her cutie mark is a combination of stars each representing her and her friends. All of the stars come together into the moon maybe because after Twilight finally meet her friends, the prophecy was set for Twilight and her friends to help release Luna from Nightmare moon. Luna was set free from being trapped in the moon because Twilight along with her friends were meant to come together to reform her and to reunite Celestia with Luna once again.


The sun IS a star, therefore, Faust was sending a message to us on Celestia bailing out Nightmare Moon.

@Anny It's still better for me to believe that she did, I'm not saying that it's Canon.

But while the sun is a star, it’s only one star doesn’t mean celestia controlled all of them

@Dallin Anderson Because not everybody saw that tweet, and if some did, they probably never saw more.

Next tweet Lauren literally corrected herself saying her word means nothing, the show is true canon. How do people not freaking get that?!


The signs could mean that she saw the Mane Six and knew that it was time to release her sister and let her be reformed. Not neccacarily talking about the stars in the sky.


I think Selectia controlled the stars to realese Night Mare Moon to do so Twilight could be a alicorn in the future, with the help of the tree of harmony


Celestia could have but she would need to prep the place a bit, Nightmare moon was a hazard, she would take away the sun, which brings plant's food to grow and helps create oxygen with trees, also, Nightmare Moon was a cannibal. We aren't sure if those were mere filly tales but um... If it was true, then that means there was a true danger to her being free.


I think that Celestia set nightmare moon free bc she was testing twilight and how strong the power of their friend ships really are. And when celestia banished nightmare moon to the moon she was in charge of the moon and starts sh she could have just moved them and that led to the escape of nightmare moon


In the real world, I would've blamed this on "proper motion" or "radial motion". Here though, I think it might be Starswirl


I agree with the maker bc Celestia over took Luna‘s powers and Luna moves the stars if you watch in the beginning and you hear nicely


Could Twilight have Controlled the stars? By the end of the show she is in control of the sun and moon. Maybe twilight could move stars but didn’t know it? Like, its something she does because she expects it to happen.


I think she was hinting at Luna moving the stars<br>It just happens slowly because she’s trapped

I think she was hinting at Luna moving the stars
It just happens slowly because she’s trapped


Remember: stars arent just “stars”, they are other suns, the same as our sun is a star, so i beleive Celestia does have something to do with it.

Sylvea Demon they still refer to the sun in equestria as “the sun”, so I wm posotive on my theory.


Theory; did Nightmare Moon free herself?<br>Even tho Celestia took over her role that did not mean that her  all of her powers were magicly gone. She maybe figured out if the stars perfektly alined that the Moon woud free her, but maybe moving the stars takes lot of time

Theory; did Nightmare Moon free herself?
Even tho Celestia took over her role that did not mean that her  all of her powers were magicly gone. She maybe figured out if the stars perfektly alined that the Moon woud free her, but maybe moving the stars takes lot of time


What if Celestia did not cause nightmare moon's freedom, what if it was destiny; what if it was supposed to happen according to the prophecy.

Or what if it was Star Swirl, since he was basically there from the beginning, and then he made the prophecy?


“the jury is still out” i gasped out loud when i saw the toontown screenshot omg 💀💀💀


I think that The sisters had a long lost sister that helps bring harmony together and give them advice and she did it and told her sister. The reason she isn't a princess is that she is too timid.


This is what I think: The tree of harmony “told” celestia to realece nightmare moon in order to test if the mane six were worthy of the elements of harmony, so celestia knew about everything and staged her disappearance to let the tree do its job, that’s why she randomly popped out of a hallway to congratulate the mane six when they free’d Luna, so mabe the tree actually turned Luna into nightmare moon for this!  Star swirl might have a role in this plan because he was responsible for making the tree of harmony as well, and he can control the stars too! Or maybe I am thinking too hard

Your prob thinking to hard how would the tree talk to Celestia it has only ever talked to the young 6

She appeared out of the sun as far as a remember

@Joselin S somebody said that Faust herself confirmed this on Deviantart, I’m not sure tho.

When nightmare moon came out of the moon celestia must arrested into the sun

@York LE Dork no... she came out of the window as soon as the sun rose up after Nightmare Moon was defeated. She didn’t just appear in the hallway.

@Sammi X VAL I don’t remember her coming out of the sun, but instead walking in on them, but rather way, it seemed like she was waiting for them somehow....

she didnt pop out of a hallway. she literally came out of the sun

The tree of harmony didn't even exist when Lauren Faust wrote that episode. It became canon years later.
Lauren Faust said "who" did it, but she didn't say "when" she did it.

"When" is probably "the last time Celestia used the elements of harmony". So the very same moment she banished her sister to the Moon. It had been a desperate and mostly instinctive move, but, maybe influenced by the tree of harmony (I don't think so, for the abovementioned reason), maybe because she couldn't bear the thought to loose her sister forever, in that very same moment she set in motion the things in a way that would have freed Nightmare Moon in 1000 years, Celestia willing or not (it doesn't even need to have control over the stars. It only needs the spell to be broken by that particular alignment that there would have been in 1000 years from then and, if the only way to prevent the alignement of the Sun was to not make it rise, Celestia has no choice anyway).

Apwhad MLP Artsy I think this is incorrect because: ALERT SPOILERS

Starswirl said that “You two have grown so tall” when they saw each other again. So he did not know of Celestia’s and Luna’s size, hinting to Starswirl seeing them during younger years when the two sisters were smaller, so Starswirl was probably sent to limbo before events of Nightmare Moon.
The Tree of Harmony was communicating with ponies after School Daze. So it took a few years for those powers to develop. They were most likely powered by the Elements until it was able to function on it’s own from the Mane 6 (Spirits of Harmony). Even though the Elements were still in the tree before the Mane 6, they didn’t have a spiritual connection with anybody.
Luna turning into Nightmare Moon was probably proved that it was because of her own envy, not gonna explain just rewatch Friendship is Magic - Part 1.
She popped out the hallway because Nightmare Moon had plenty of time on the moon, she might have figured out the banishing spell or at least a disappearing spell. She performed it on Celestia, most likely banishing her to the moon or somewhere like Tartarus.


thieves: scared if the dogs are released.<br>me: aww release them.

thieves: scared if the dogs are released.
me: aww release them.


did you know that the sun is a star so i think celestia is able to technically able to control the stars.


What if since twilight is the new princes and controls the sun, she’d also control the stars since the name is twilight. A explanation for this could be a time travel spell.


Haven't you thought that the two sisters are yin and yan I mean sun and moon are opposites and maybe they just couldn't live with out each other and I know Celestia controls the moon and the sun but is it not strange that there are two sisters and not just Celestia even thoght she controls the moon and sun ?


I think Celestia was the one who orchestrated nightmare moon’s return,because the sun is a star,so Celestia should be the pony that aided the stars in nightmare moon’s escape.


Sawtooth at the end of the video: Asking a bunch of question
Me: Celestia is now a bread roll. Yum.

Sawtooth at the end of the video: *Asking a bunch of question*
Me: Celestia is now a bread roll. Yum.


who controls the sun, moon and stars?
literally twilight bruh
( she got handed down the role of everything, she originally already had the relation to stars and now she can control the sun and moon )


I have an OC who is the lost 3rd sister of the stars, named Laniakea. The reason the stars don't move is because Laniakea has been missing and forgotten since Discord's reign of terror (long story). However, before she went missing, I have a theory that perhaps Laniakea set the stars to align with the moon (perhaps the Tree of Harmony helped bolster this after her disappearance) because she was really close with Luna and understood the overshadowing Luna felt.


Maybe we should look for a pony that has star in there name not starswirl


In my own opinion i feel like this is not so connected but the stars sparkling on celestia's hair is same to the star that released Luna


Welp, I guess this also expains how Celestia banished BEFORE NightmareMoon even shows up infront of everyone. And Luna's Unaware of it 🙃


I think that starlight should be an option to controling the stars because on many occasions we have seen her use strong ancient magic after nightmare moons release so it could be possible that she could have done so even if it might not have bin on purpose when she was learning magic.


“Sun, Moon, AND stars... who controls the stars?”

It was STARLIGHT GLIMMER-
Just a theory heehee

“Sun, Moon, AND stars... who controls the stars?”

It was *STARLIGHT GLIMMER*-
Just a theory heehee

@Linda C.just because it has star on the name it doesn’t mean it’s her I think it was starswirl because he was the teacher of Luna and celestia

@Sassy Sem first of all she used a spell by starswirl and starswirl is the one who controls the stars and why everyone wants starlight to be an alicorn I MEAN TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT STARLIGHT IT WOULD BE NONSENSE THAT STARLIGHT COULD BE AN ALICORN AND I HATE THAT SUNSET SHIMMER AND STARLIGHT ARE LIKE THE MAIN CHARACTERS I MEAN ITS NONSENSE TWILIGHT IS THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT THEM

Maybe starswirl at the limbo maybe he could make a spell while he was there at the limbo maybe celestia and starswirl planed all for years.

It could have been her but what about sunset shimmer...?

Guys, think for a second even

What would her reasoning even be? She wouldn't be defeated yet until many seasons later. This happened in episode 1 - 2. She doesn't even know someone named Twilight Sparkle exists yet. She's living a happy and peaceful life over in her village. I doubt that controlling the stars to free Nightmare Moon even crossed her mind

It's barely possible, and way too unlikely and not well-planned for me to believe it. And Starlight is one to think things through instead of rushing in blind and hoping it all works

I have the smallest problem with this. The sun is a star.

Yea starlight glimmer must have done it because her name star  starlight glimmer it should of been her

xWine Tavernx I thought it was Twilight cause her cutie mark is a star starlight glimmer has the cutie mark is a SHOOTING STAR maybe they both control the stars.

@Shduehfjsi OH MAH GAWD that's an amazing point >:DDDD

True, but Starlight wasn’t that evil. Her mo was to rid Equestria of cutie marks because of the hurt she went through with Sunburst. <br>And the pony controlling the stars would have had to be seen before in some certain timeline, because I’m sure ponies would like to know who was moving their stars every night. I don’t know who it would be  and don’t have a very strong theory, but it could have been Sunset Shimmer, who went to the human world. She could possibly still control the stars even without being there? Honestly I have no idea, but I know that Starlight is not the controller of the stars, but someone a lot more evil.

True, but Starlight wasn’t that evil. Her mo was to rid Equestria of cutie marks because of the hurt she went through with Sunburst.
And the pony controlling the stars would have had to be seen before in some certain timeline, because I’m sure ponies would like to know who was moving their stars every night. I don’t know who it would be  and don’t have a very strong theory, but it could have been Sunset Shimmer, who went to the human world. She could possibly still control the stars even without being there? Honestly I have no idea, but I know that Starlight is not the controller of the stars, but someone a lot more evil.

I don't think it would start early because she wasn't in the first episode

Starswril idk how to spell also have star in the name TwT
Wait- Star swirl  the stars "swirl" towards the moon
Idkkkk TnT

I-I can’t believe it- IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

Rat Maclean that was what I was thinking too!

@Rat BigMac maybe he controls the stars or maybe even the milky way? I personally think that star swirl and starlight glimmer have something in commen either way I think something big will happen.... but  also he was in limbo so possibly no but who knows 🤷♀🤷♀🤷♀

Wait...Starlight Glimmer used her time travel spell to forsee the Mane Six coming together, so SHE set nightmare Moon free, so she could enact her plans of the Cutie Remark!

Your idea is amazing!!maybe starlight glimmer knew about night mare moon and because she was still evil her trying to eliminate everyone(not knowing about the mane six ☺☺

Starswirl was in Limbo at the time I said Starlight lmao u>u

Isn't it obvi it's starlight she literally has the word star in her name<br>I got a theory if sunburst and sunset shimmer might have a connection which lead to starlight glimmer name rhyming with shimmer but then both twilight & starlight has light in it and was secret sisters so sunset shimmer should have taken Calestia throne but didn't so I'm guessing that why sunset stole the crown in the first Equestria girls movie so she get revenge and take what she think was hers but it doesn't explain sunburst since starlight is his friend unless they was from a different dimension but then what if starswirl is a great ancestor that twilight set free from the stone in the past since starswirl is powerful like twilight also twilight does look up to starswirl and read all his books

Isn't it obvi it's starlight she literally has the word star in her name
I got a theory if sunburst and sunset shimmer might have a connection which lead to starlight glimmer name rhyming with shimmer but then both twilight & starlight has light in it and was secret sisters so sunset shimmer should have taken Calestia throne but didn't so I'm guessing that why sunset stole the crown in the first Equestria girls movie so she get revenge and take what she think was hers but it doesn't explain sunburst since starlight is his friend unless they was from a different dimension but then what if starswirl is a great ancestor that twilight set free from the stone in the past since starswirl is powerful like twilight also twilight does look up to starswirl and read all his books

A theory... Maby TwighlightSparckle and StarLightGlimmer are long lost siblings and they are the protectors/Controlers of the stars, one was sent to a certain place whilst the other was in a different place, and whilst one turned evil the other came to help. Not to mention Twilightlight and Starlight have traveled through time in the shows...  then again one doese seem to have more power than the other so Maby one is older? I also remembered that Starlight had a childhood friend, so maby in the pony's past there was a different group of 3? One was the researcher and/or scientist and the other 2 are the holders of the stars. And to be fair, I have a backup... Twighlight(3 Stars on Cutiemark) STARlight(1 star on Cutiemark) SUNburst(No stars but has a sun on his Cutiemark and wears a robe with stars on it. Is also really into books!)  (Then again that doesn't explain how there are 2 pony's who like reading and reaserching.) So if you want, debunk my theory. Be my guest... Anywayes, BY! (My hand is hurting, so, BY!)

PS. <br>Thought you were talking bout' Twighlight... Sorry

PS.
Thought you were talking bout' Twighlight... Sorry

I think there were too sisters who were leader of star ponies and one of them turned evil just like Luna turning to Nightmare , after years the star sister's dark magic freed Nightmare moon.

Christhalia he was in Limbo so quite possibly no

It wouldnt fit in the timeline because he was sent to limbo!

Duchess Madi You are pretty actually right

Besides her, it could also be STAR swirl!

OF COURSE STARLIGHT DOES HOW COULD I NO THINK OF HER CUTIE MARKKK

I tought of Starlight too! I mean, there IS a star in her cutie mark, and STAR-light glimer, so i don't see why twilight wouldn't ask starlight to help her when starlight becomes an alicorn!

Like one day star light was trying to figure out one of the olden days spells and something goes wrong. Then she have to travel back in time to fix it or something like that-

OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED-

Many of the references say that starlight is going to be an alicorn soon Cough brony notion's mv cough So many be somehow it might be related to her. The fact that she can time travel may be a big part in it.

OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED-

Many of the references say that starlight is going to be an alicorn soon *Cough* brony notion's mv *cough* So many be somehow it might be related to her. The fact that she can time travel may be a big part in it.


What I think is that the stars are maybe moved by the tree of harmony or maybe it was planned before luna/nightmare moon was sent to the moon.


Foust never said it was Celestia, she just said that whoever did, controlled those things. On the Tree of Harmony, there is a star, sun, and moon pattern, so Foust may have been pointing to that being the case.


I think luna (but at that moment nightmare moon) was only to become powerful enough to control the stars after 1000 years, aka she did it.


I just realized that stars are technically sun's and I just thought of it before watching this video😳


I would argue Discord is god-like and exists outside of time and space,he could totally have visions.

@Borislav Vučićević Discord teamed up with Tirek for power. He was just as surprised as everyone else when Twilight still took his side. No foresight there.<br>He didn't know they would betray him. He admitted that himself. As I said above, he got lucky with the way things worked out--and there were other problems that stemmed from his leap of faith, as I've said.

@Borislav Vučićević Discord teamed up with Tirek for power. He was just as surprised as everyone else when Twilight still took his side. No foresight there.
He didn't know they would betray him. He admitted that himself. As I said above, he got lucky with the way things worked out--and there were other problems that stemmed from his leap of faith, as I've said.

@TrumpeterJen but if discord didnt team up with tirek twillight would never found her key to the magic box.So i assume that he knew that if he betray twilight she will trade magic for friends and found sixth key to the box.And what about season nine why would he brought back tireck,crysalis and cozy glow,why didn't he bring back other villians?Because he knew that they will betray him and lost.He knew everything.

@Bread T04STER-3 If Discord got caught on purpose, he'd have made it clear in the end.  He loves nothing more than to brag about having "helped" someone.
You can't call Discord's decision to release Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow a good choice just because it happened to work out in the end.  He just got lucky.  Even then, it could have long-lasting negative effects, like making the different types of ponies distrust each other and potentially weaken their defenses against the Windigos.  Also, for as much confidence as the Mane 6 gained from it, the Pillars probably lost a lot.  Equestria would have been much shakier overall after that, which could cause problems.
Discord has a lot of things, but foresight isn't one of them.  Is it obvious I'm not a huge Discord fan?  Lol.

Also one other thing does Luna also go into villains dreams? just saying uwu

@TrumpeterJen What if Discord did that on purpose? But yea I believe ur point, but when he <b>*loves*</b> testing people even SPike admits he even tests Starlights leadership in her temporary head mistress role or something, and Discord diddd release sombra and actually made a good choice except the other villains... but it was actually also a good choice he did so, cause look at that! Twilight realized what she needed and nt the harmony! Which was very smart of Discord! ;) Hope u have a nice day! <3

@TrumpeterJen What if Discord did that on purpose? But yea I believe ur point, but when he **loves** testing people even SPike admits he even tests Starlights leadership in her temporary head mistress role or something, and Discord diddd release sombra and actually made a good choice except the other villains... but it was actually also a good choice he did so, cause look at that! Twilight realized what she needed and nt the harmony! Which was very smart of Discord! ;) Hope u have a nice day! <3

@Satsujin-Sha The witch KingofWolfs. Its called chaos ville thats where he live -.- and yes I think he can manipulate time, his discord he can "alter the very fabric of reality" hope u know where that quote is from ;) Also another quote from discord "I can do whatever I want whenever I want" he wasnt lying about lol enjoy ur day ^

actually he had manipulated time <b>snaps</b> look at s2 discord went back on time with twilight to make her hear the riddle again. so he can control time itself

actually he had manipulated time *snaps* look at s2 discord went back on time with twilight to make her hear the riddle again. so he can control time itself

We've seen Discord look shocked while getting turned to stone twice now, admit he didn't see it coming when Tirek betrayed him, get caught off guard when Starlight banished him from the school grounds, and fail to predict his plan would be completely derailed in the finale.  I think it's pretty obvious by now that he doesn't have Celestia's foresight.

@Sawtooth Waves he did with twilight in season 2 episode 2

@Sawtooth Waves just because you exist outside of something doesn't necessarily make you able to manipulate it

The Brony Notion I looked it up-I didn’t get an answer but In one clip he says(talking about his chaos magic) ‘it would give you power over all reality’ and I wouldn’t be surprised if that could extend to time.

@Sawtooth Waves doesn't he slow people down when he is first in charge?

@Sawtooth Waves well,I don't believe so but he does live in the void(or what I believe is the void)and that would be outside of space and time.Mind you I haven't watched the shows newer seasons or just haven't watched the show in at least five years so I may be a bit behind the times.


You know how Starlight's name has "Star" In it? And Lauren said "And who controls the Sun,Moon And Stars?" Well Starlight could be the one who controls the stars! Now before you reply "But starlight is a unicorn, not alicorn" I know that but we have seen her magical power's though out the show.Also when Nightmare Moon was finaly set free starlight was still evil. Im not certain but i have a feel that Starlight could control the stars.


What if there was a 5th alicorn who controlled the stars


I think Celestia actually released her, becouse the sun is just a big star, so why wouldn’t she be able to control tiny stars?


i think that it can be a charecter that Laruen Faust made look im gonna explain (also it could be one of their parents)

she may have made a Aunt of Celestia and Luna but it can be one of her parents one of their parents couldve controlled the Stars and the other the Light which leads down to Luna getting her Moon Powers and Celestia getting her Sun ones and the Aunt part let me put it in something that i thought of "One controlls the other Rises who can it be will we ever know can we blame the girl who's a sister to Celestia and Luna's Parents?"


Could the Stars be controlled by Starswirl himself?

Jk.

Starswirl was in Limbo, he couldn’t have.

Becky Tro he was not in Limbo at that time

Or could he?

[The iconic v-sauce jingle plays]

He is the inventor of the timetravel spell. He can do it again.
Starlight can made the same "fixes" to a new scroll.
-> The Rainbow of Light™ is still Secured, Contained & Protected inside the "chest/box" under the cutiemap [the "powersource" for a stable time_tunnel].

He is the inventor of the timetravel spell. He can do it again.
Starlight can made the same "fixes" to a new scroll.
-> *The Rainbow of Light™* is still _Secured, Contained & Protected_ inside the "chest/box" under the cutiemap [the "powersource" for a stable time_tunnel].


Wait a minute... what if Twighlight sparkle let her out by accident knowing that it's the 1000th year day long thing. Celestia controls the sun, Luna controls the moon, Stars come out AT twightlight, what if Twightlight Sparkle controls the stars but doesn't know?


But aren't the stars the same size as the sun meaning that Celestia could control other suns other than the one we see in the show.


A sun is a star but Star Swirl made the tree of Harmony so the tree of Harmony and Star Swirl and a little bit of Celestia power made the stars move


I think the changes they fast in the first two ep.  Is nightmare moon trying to stop them from getting to the element's.


Important thing to note; J. K. Rowling DIDN'T just tweet Dumbledore being gay into being cannon, the information has always been available that he had a romance with Grindewald on the Pottermore site since it's creation. The reason most people didn't know this was because it wasn't relevant to the original story, and she clarified it for the sake of the newer movie, as it was going to involve parts of their relationship

Important thing to note; J. K. Rowling *DIDN'T* just tweet Dumbledore being gay into being cannon, the information has always been available that he had a romance with Grindewald on the Pottermore site since it's creation. The reason most people didn't know this was because it wasn't relevant to the original story, and she clarified it for the sake of the newer movie, as it _was_ going to involve parts of their relationship

@Diana Prince I understand that but when the movies were being made apparently they wanted to include a scene where Dumbledore mentioned having a crush on a girl and JK saw it and told them he was gay so she probably always thought of him as that.


the sun is technically a star so celestia could move the stars


Didnt twilight say how stars move overtime? Maybe the reason she got released is because of the passage of time. Then the tree of harmony got them united to defeat nightmare moon when they sensed the stars were aligning.


Am i the only one that always wanted to know how it was to be trapped in the moon


Celestia was sad to banish her sis so she broght her back she took preparations before setting her free so she taght twilight magic of friendship that defeated nightmare moon alas peace was restored ♥


The celestial troll face made me spit out my soup- XD

"Trollestia" is actually a very old meme from the earliest days of the fandom.

it made me spit out my cereal- now my keyboard needs cleaning :(

@French The Fennec Fox it was scary to me<br>but Im not really scare now

@French The Fennec Fox it was scary to me
but Im not really scare now

@Yong Soon Chia the face isent that bad <br>Even though it is bad

@Yong Soon Chia the face isent that bad
Even though it is bad

that face scares me and i have nightmares of that face for 2 days but im not scare anymore

@· My Little Pony Episodes · I take the troll face as a joke

I don't think he should make a ugly face for the Princess :(


She’s not only the night queen the night is connected to the stars it is always the Luna


Well the sun is a star so Celestia can still be an option. However, instead of moving the stars she lights them up when the moon rises, maybe?


To sum up this theory:
The stars aid in her escape,
THE SUN IS A STAR
IT WAS CELESTIA


You can turn in to Alcorns and unicorns and also you make a good point from Maimoona


Wait a minute, four stars circling toward the moon and unleashing nightmare moon...
Isn't there a pony that has a cutie mark representing four stars in a vortex, a powerfull unicorn that taught the princesses how to rise the sun and the moon...
Yes I think this is because of Starswirl that nightmare moon was released, not directly because he was trapped on the limbo, but with a vector like the tree of armony he planted it after all.
Maybe the tree used starswirl's magic to release nightmare moon.
in this case, celestia's visions would have said her to send twilight to ponyville and would come from the tree itself the tree would also have advertised her of the return of her sister.
Also I think celestia can only control the sun because of her cutie mark but also, the sun is really close to equestria (like our sun)and asked like six powered unicorns to manipulate it so I think even with her alicorn powers, celestia could not manipulate the sun like the stars (that's not her destiny)

Ps:the starswirl's cutie mark is most certainly the picture on it's book but it's not sure

PPs: I'm not English or American so I did my best to respect the synthax and the ortograph


Kinda stars are far away suns though its odd and in my dream my new mom was luna aka nightmare moon and my original one was killed by someone with grappling fingers and I found out gurwiseka did both murder her and has a dark relic called the death stone witch has both king sombra and the pony of shadow life essences


But the sun is a star, so it'd make sense that Celestia can control other stars too.


Youtube ate my first comment :( but I was going to say, I vaguely remember a rumor that they changed Twilight's cutie mark from S1 to the other seasons to show her with 5 stars around the big middle star instead of 4. The 5  represents her friends, but the 4 could've represented the four freeing Nightmare Moon...? Another indicator that maybe this was where they were going is they had considered making Twilight's cutie mark like Moondancer's instead: a bunch of stars around a moon. Third, before they gave the soft retcon to her to make her an alicorn princess of Friendship, I felt like the obvious direction to take her was to put her in control of the stars and star magic, given her name, cutie mark...and now this.

Or, maybe it was actually Moondancer, out of jealousy for losing her friend Twilight or other such stuff! :)


I laughed when Luna was rolling on the moon 1:25


I think "I saw the signs" meant her seeing that Twilight and her friends were ready to meet and earn the elements. So then she could release Luna.

@Sawtooth Waves *insert her troll face edit picture here*. Low-key see her doing something so vague to troll everyone lmao

that would still be needlessly deceptive on her part


Now if we read the tweet more carefully she says who controls the moon sun and stars but she didn’t really say when they controlled them now I have two theory one gusty the great only trapped the physical part of grogar and that grogar could still control his magic in equestria and he may have freed nightmare or that it was celalstia after all I mean the sun is a star so it is a possibility


I agree with Ajamkid but just in a different way, maybe when the tree on harmony sensed her coming, it thought it was time to see is Twilight Sparkle could wield the element of magic, so it released nightmare moon, I mean the elements of harmony are connected to the tree so when Celestia banished nightmare moon it was kinda the tree who banished her so the tree maybe had SOMETHING just SOMETHING to do with RELESING nightmare moon.


Maybe this is canon, but in the game of My Little Pony it says that "Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, responsible for raising the sun, the moon and the stars, she is also Twilight Sparkle's mentor."

So it really depends on do you trust the game or not


I agree with Sawthooth. The sun is a star. Yes, but it’s also sorta a planet. Believe it or not. In our world it’s a star. But what does Equestrian think about our sun? Let’s say, Sawtooth makes a video about this theory and explain what he thinks about Equestira’s time difference or sun difference. I believe it’s a few hours off and the sun is NOT a star.

Thanks for reading.
-HUGE fan


HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A SECRET BROTHER TO CELESTIA AND LUNA?!

Celestia and Luna have a secret sister Astell starswirl mad her the first alicorn which made her Queen but she turned evil and Celestia banished her to the tapistry

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 big possibility

@aquatic angel Before Celestia and Luna existed, the unicorns rose and set the moon and sun together, until a powerful pony showed up that was able to control the sun all by herself, that is Celestia. Starswirl then began training Celestia. Not much information was given about Luna or if both of them were alicorns at the first place.

I think it’s her parents. Even though they aren’t shown much, dont you think the mom looks a little like the galaxy? Maybe SHE controls the stars.
Although I have no evidence to confirm that, don’t you think it would make a lot of sense? They knew it was the right time, and that Luna would be needed in the near future. Any sooner, and the mane 6 wouldn’t be ready to fight. Any later, and they would all be so weak from fighting other villains, there would be no way they could beat nightmare moon on top of everyone else!
Just think about that.

Well Celestia did have a nephew in the gala episode so it’s  possible


Celestia's sister, who we don't know is the one who controls the stars!


Star Swirl can raise the sun, he has moon and stars on his outfit, I think star swirl is the one who freed nightmare moon.


Wait a minute-

If Celestia did set Nightmare Moon free, she would have a reason since she once argued to Luna and practically admitted she hated being on control with the Sun, Moon, the whole kingdom of Equestria, and Luna, and remember that one episode when she started to sorta tear up when she looked up at the Moon in a story about her being a bit anxious about her sending Twilight to Ponyville? She could have missed Luna so much along with the fact that she hated being on control with almost everything in Equestria that she set Nightmare Moon free.

Don't you think that sounds true?


When Nightmare Moon (Luna) was banished Celestia take her responsibility to move the Sun and Moon, she maybe move the Stars.


Me: is doing homework
Brony Notion: posts
Me: Ah more fun learning :)

Me: *is doing homework*
Brony Notion: *posts*
Me: Ah more fun learning :)


Celestial can control the sun and stars are suns so maybe Celestial let Nightmare moon out!😱


Celestia must have released nightmare moon to bring Luna back,Because she knew that she couldn’t alone rule Equestria. She also knew that twilight had it to defeat nightmare moon and even tho twilight couldn’t she had no choice. Celestia also shamed discord because she had guilt of even planning this. She wanted to reveal that she planned it. But every pony was to focused so didn’t realise and till the end of th episode they must have forgotten


I think that maybe she cast the spell on Luna so that in a thousand years she could escape overtime she would forget🤷 put when she saw the sign she remembered in that case 💼 Celestia wouldn't be a lair


This actually made sense,I always thought that auntie Tia would do that to auntie lulu so great speculation and cool theory 💜💜💜🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻


In which episode was it showed that Celestia had visions?


Maybe that is a legend about another ancient pony who controls the stars, and then it happens to be the spirit of the tree


Starswirl used to control the SUN,MOON and STARS before the alicorn sisters celestia and Luna came into script


But wouldn’t she send twilight to ponyville earlier? So she could let her sister free sooner? Also how did the book know? (If celestia set her free)


I always thought the Star will Aid in her Escape was inadvertently Twilight releasing NM by moving to ponyville. Why else would the ‘new ruler’ not show up originally in canterlot the capital?

Would also explain why when finding Twilight she took her under her wing as a student, a unicorn with stars as her mark. I do think it ties into the tree of harmony of course but more primarily Twilight and the element of Magic

I always thought the Star will Aid in her Escape was inadvertently Twilight releasing NM by moving to ponyville. Why else would the ‘new ruler’ not show up originally in canterlot the capital?

Would also explain why when finding Twilight she took her under her wing as a student, a unicorn with *stars* as her mark. I do think it ties into the tree of harmony of course but more primarily Twilight and the element of Magic


First I just thought it was flurry heart's job to control the stars since she is destend to control light but she was born in the future but also maybe she time traveled with the help of twitight sparkle????🤔🤔🤔


So we also know that the sisters parents are Queen Galaxia, creator of the galaxy and the sun, and King Cosmos, creator of the moon and STARS, so what is Celestia and Lunas dad set them free because he thought that Luna had cooled off?


the sun is a star, so theoretically speaking she does controll the stars. then again if celestia controls the day and luna the night doesnt that mean that luna controls the stars, therefore luna herself could theoretically have alined the stars herself. oh and if you read the books youll see that a pony named sandbar(i think i havent read them in a while) controls the tide


Remember the summer sun festival, Luna sets the moon and Celestia rises the sun after the sun twilight made a star, does this mean the book that twilight read was a key to nightmare moon’s escape and twilight read it so it was unlocked? This is just a theory


I guess Celestia really missed her sister.

I would also too, if I was in that situation


Theory so I think the ferry actually the bad guy coming up now


I’m sure all that happened was the spell depleted like what happened with discord when he got returned back from stone or was that another of celestia ideas


In the movie twilight looking at the moon and the sun was connected to the moon maybe the sun was connected to the stars and moves it


I think that the tree was very involved in it because celestia did use the elements of harmony to banish nightmare moon so who's to say the elements didnt plan for this in advance and give celestia a vision saying her sister would be back


Celestia didn’t control the stars she just revealed them


I dont agree since the sun IS a star so if she can move the sun she can definitely move stars meaning it was her who released nightmare moon


I love celestias troll face lol but in twilights family we see a lot of star cutie marks


Get out the moon and control the stars to see what they're doing


Really  the  tree of harmony releasing  a vilin would make it evil ,and using Celestia


what if Grogar wasnt a tyrant but the spirit of harmony and did everything to bring ponies together, and now is extending its realm over other species.....what if it feeds on harmony


Maybe it was part of the spell for maybe Celestia made sure Luna came and guided Twilight so she would be reformed


Well, Celestia makes the sun revolve around the earth, and due to Luna's banishment, Celestia had to take responsibility of the moon as well. In our world, ALL stars are stationary, in the mlp universe the sun moves, but it need not be the same for all the stars. The rest of the stars may have stayed in the same place (except for the time the "grogar theory" took place), so no one was really "controlling" the stars, either they were stationary, or...... doing something on their own under no ones control. I mostly believe in the "Grogar theory".

or maybe celestia casted a spell on the stars which grgar was banished to, which allowed him to aid for Luna's (Night Mare Moon's) escaoe


The stars are are symbols of magic and move of their own accord . They are what give the sun and moon princesses their immense powers like Cadence and shining's love.. justahunch!-pinkie pie.


("Spirit of the Tree of Harmony": Not gonna lie, I liked "destiny" a lot better.)

The way I interpret fiction is more narrow than the way you do, which is fine, but let me explain my method. I think you have to balance in-universe and out-of-universe (author's original intentions). This works both ways: maybe at the start, it was supposed to be Celestia who moved those stars, but after nine seasons of implying Celestia was not involved, that nugget of author intentions was never ratified, and like you pointed out, it just doesn't fit.
But the other side of the coin is that if a concept did not exist IRL when the piece of fiction was created, the only way to retcon/reinterpret the older section with the new concept is to state it explicitly. Or, from an in-universe perspective: just as it's unlikely Celestia did it based on the fact that she never says she did, it's also unlikely the Tree did it, because there isn't a great case that the Tree was the successor to the role "destiny" played in the early seasons. And even after the Tree was introduced, they still appealed to destiny/Mag.of.Fdshp. to explain how the Mane 6 all were connected. Further, the Tree has little to no role in the final event of the show.
I'd say it's the nebulous "Magic of Friendship" thing that did it. That's the Deus ex Machina for this show, up until the very last fight.


Well the only pony who controls the stars is luna cause it's mentioned in the journal of the 2 sisters but the one who taught luna was star swirl so I'm not so sure


it was celestia we have proof she said this in  season 8.  I knew there was a speial grop of ponies in poneyville.


My understanding is that it had to be Celestia who did it, since Stars are celestial bodies...she may have released her own sister on purpose to test Twilight Sparkle, that was the whole point why she was sent to Ponyville to "make friends"....


Wait wait wait. Who controls the stars? I may have a theory. Just like Celestia and Luna control the sun and moon, what about twilight? Yes, I know this may be a little drastic, though. "Twilight" Sparkle? It just makes some sense, since her cutiemark is also a resemblance of the stars, as well as magic.


What if Lauren Faust got the inspiration to have horses poop on the ground from jk Rowling saying wizards just poop on the ground?

don’t horses normally poop on the ground

@Sawtooth Waves <b>theory intensifies</b>

Faust's tweet is several years old, Rowlings's is from last year, so maybe other way around? xD


“Oh dear princess celestia! We are so happy the nightmare was conquered! Tell us, princess, will the beast ever return?!”
“Uhh.. yeah...”
“When?!”
“Well uhmmmm... lets just say...in 1000 years...?... Im going to have to keep track of this aren’t I :/....”


Well, later in the show it shows that twilight controls the stars, and luna let twilight ‘organise the stars’ so..


I think the Tree Of Harmony was controlling the stars.


The amount of images out of context that would be hilarious in this video is amazing 4:48


I think she released knowing Twilight and friends can stop her.


I think I know who controls the sun, moon, and stars. Lunas and Celestias mother! (btw I forgo there mother’s name)


Okay, Celestia controls the sun, and the stars released Luna.. or shall I say Nightmare moon, and what is the sun..??
A star!
So Celestia must've tried to keep Nightmare moon on the moon, but the 1000 years of banishment must of worn off and used power to bring her back, it was 4 stars, I think the 4 starts resemble:
The pegaside, the earth ponies, the unicorns and the alicorns. For such powerful magic it must've need everyone magic. And that's how I think Nightmare moon was brought back.


Luna brought herself back because she was the one the one that controlled the moon and stars that is what i think😁


Have you ever thought that
STARswirl had something to do with her escape, he has star in his name, and moons on his hat..

Idk it’s just a theory I’m thinking about

@•Dweeb• not just because it’s in his name does it mean he can control them. We never had confirmation from the show that he can control them and there’s no evidence for it, just the name. Plus, he was in Limbo and time doesn’t pass in Limbo so there’s no way he could’ve controlled them at that time

Its starswirl before celestia and luna were the rulers of equestria starswirl and the pillars raised the sun and the moon and starswirl can control the stars cause its in his name

1. Starswirl was in limbo, time doesn’t pass there. There’s no way he would’ve been able to set any spell if time didnt even pass
2. Starswirl said “you’ve grown so tall!” To princess Celestia and Luna, meaning they were somewhat small and young before he was trapped in Limbo, probably before the events of Nightmare Moon
3. No, not just pecause they have star in the name does it mean they raise the stars. Yes Starswirl used to raise the moon and sun and maybe stars, but with Luna and Celestia he has no reason to keep doing so. We don’t even know if the stars are a thing that can be raised in this universe.

@Koko Nutnut yea but maybe some of his magic was still there, but I don't really know


If there is a princess for the moon, a princess for the sun, then there couldn't be a princess for stars could there???


Maybe Celetia's magic was not strong enough


Maybe Nightmare Moon broke out of the spell herself because she controls the night and stars are apart of the night.


The spell would only last 1000 years celestea used or maybe the tree of harmony releast nightmare moon and told celestea that the tree will be releasing her to test if twilight and her friends were worthy of the elements of harmony and to protect equestria


Well at the start it had already said that on the day of a thousand years the stars will aid in her escape so I think that someone already knew and had spread that news but was forgotten later but celestia vanished Luna so only celestia knows so I say celestia knew about what will happen with twilight and the others so she let nightmare moon escape


Han on  how can Celestia turn into daybreaker when she controls the sun?


When I was younger I was scared of the intro because of the explosion


Well Celestia could do something like that.


If those four stars that aided in Nightmare Moon's Escape was growga<br>r then he would have disappeared because no one sees those four stars after that

If those four stars that aided in Nightmare Moon's Escape was growga
r then he would have disappeared because no one sees those four stars after that


Does this make sense?
So they said "Who controls the stars?" right? Well, what is the sun? Think abt it. The sun is a STAR so the title is TRUE-
Like if it makes sense :3


I disagree on 4:34 You said Celestia didn't control the stars but I may think that's incorrect. Based on the scene you gave us when celestia moved the sun, the stars disappear when she lifted it. This causes the stars to disappear based on the light that reaches from their star. She controls the stars but in a very easy way; she makes them invisible. What Lauren Faust said is actually correct. I think you just looked at it from a wrong perspective.


Celestia couldn't have released luna because u see in the last episode of season 5 luna was free even though celestia didn't find a pony that reflected the element of magic


Well...My sister did say “I saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return,” and...I just wanna say thank you to my sister for releasing me...um...My evil counterpart. The moon was getting a little boring

Anyway Princess Luna is my favorite princess in My Little Pony

OMG what is an actually used me he didn't have like Bruno I'm a really big fan of Luna anyways I like campers you got up there literally Luna

@Nightmare
Excuse me please, I live there on that planet! But if you even think about going to my planet aka Earth... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5irMZy0oY You’re not going to like what happens next.

@Princess Celestia
Hello there , your majesty. *bows to you too
But if you don’t mind me asking but, what would my scent of Cherries and fruit would do to you if you caught my scent and so would your sister?

@robloxgirlwithadog <br>Also haven’t you heard anything about SSBU version of Megalovania?

@robloxgirlwithadog
Also haven’t you heard anything about SSBU version of Megalovania?

@robloxgirlwithadog <br>Thank you for saying that!

@robloxgirlwithadog
Thank you for saying that!

Well I have 3 days left until my 21st birthday arrives and also. *Bows to you<br>It’s such an honor to see you, your majesty and haven’t you ever heard of the legend of the seventh element of harmony?

Well I have 3 days left until my 21st birthday arrives and also. *Bows to you
It’s such an honor to see you, your majesty and haven’t you ever heard of the legend of the seventh element of harmony?

ashley spitzer I think I can only answer number 3! When Angel was pretending to be flutter shy he said I wanna marry discord! And remember the entire MLP fandom realized that the ship was true and were all freaking out! (Including me) and remember they were together in the last episode!

Princess Luna <br>Does Princess Twilight Sparkle have a crush on Flash Sentry the Pony Guard from the Crystal Empire? Does Spike still like Rarity? Do Fluttershy and Discord like each other although they are unaware they like one another?

Princess Luna
Does Princess Twilight Sparkle have a crush on Flash Sentry the Pony Guard from the Crystal Empire? Does Spike still like Rarity? Do Fluttershy and Discord like each other although they are unaware they like one another?

Princess Celestia good to hear! Thank you for subscribing to my channel! It’s such an honor! 😊 <br>P.S: just a hunch! 😉

Princess Celestia good to hear! Thank you for subscribing to my channel! It’s such an honor! 😊
P.S: just a hunch! 😉

@robloxgirlwithadogWell I'm trying to be the best person possible. And I am happy that I released my sister. :-)

Princess Celestia, Thank goodness I thought you were jealous of her! 😅

@robloxgirlwithadog, I won't turn into Daybreaker! :-)

Princess Celestia , hi! You’re also one of my favorite princesses! 😅😅😅 <br>(Don’t turn into Daybreaker! 😳)

Princess Celestia , hi! You’re also one of my favorite princesses! 😅😅😅
(Don’t turn into Daybreaker! 😳)

My princess I made a alircorn of my own I was inspired by your character it's you put green eyes pink coat and black hair

MLP Isabella Luna is a fictional character

@robloxgirlwithadog <br>Your turn to hug the moon pony now

@robloxgirlwithadog
Your turn to hug the moon pony now

Princess Luna, your majesty! I’m 1 of your biggest fans! 😊


Here’s a theory idk if it’s the best...

I think Celestia actually freed Nightmare Moon because the four stars represented love, Moon, sun, friendship so I think Celestia freed her when she thought twilight sparkle was ready and she got back on her hooves, but maybe also the tree of harmony, maybe the tree of harmony used celestias magic to free Nightmare Moon and also the stars came from the ground so MAYBE???


your right cause while those stars are moving the tree of harmony has one in the center


It's the tree of harmony. There really isn't any debate possible on this one. The tree has shown time and time again that it has the ability to control destiny, even when time travel is involved. As long as the end result is more harmony, the tree will pretty much do or at least predict anything. Even going so far as to predict the actions of Discord, the god of chaos. It is pretty much a guarantee that the tree is completely responsible for this. Especially when considering that there are more symbols on the tree than just the elements. Do I need to remind anyone what symbols are below the centre star on the tree? The sun and the moon.


The legend narrated in the first episode tells that Celestia raises the sun, and that she had raised the moon and stars in her sister's absence. A display of Celestia raising the sun is depicted in The Cutie Mark Chronicles, and the sunrise coincides with Princess Celestia's return in Friendship is Magic part 2


Remember that episode with Rockhoof in season 8? When they crashed into that rock, Twilight said that over time the stars do move .That is why Rockhoof miscalculated because the stars were in a different place 1000 years ago. Even if that's not how fast or slow stars move in OUR world (I'm no expert,I really don't know),this is Equestria; science and magic work differently.Maybe they are even moved by something or someone(perhaps the Tree itself). That supports your theory that it was the Tree who freed Nightmare Moon. Do you think this is plausible or was what Bookhorse said inaccurate?


The one who controls the star is Celestia when Nightmare Moon is in imprisoned Celestia takes control of both the moon STARS and the sun


Star swirl and the pillars of Equestria were the ones who created the tree of harmony in the first place
<br>they must of had something to do with this

Star swirl and the pillars of Equestria were the ones who created the tree of harmony in the first place
they must of had something to do with this


Sawtooth I think your forgetting something……………..the tweet said sun, moon and stars………………..and the sun is a star, so with little doubt it could be Celestia


4:16 technically the sun is a star so Princess Celestia technically controls the stars ;-;

Yeah but she probably can only control the sun

The sun is a star on earth but it’s probably different for Equestria..


I personally think Star Swirl is the one who controls the stars


Not celestia… here’s my proof… starlight… when she went back in time and stopped the rainboom twilight wouldn’t have gotten on celestial radar so celestial wouldn’t have set her free if no one could stop her


You can’t think of STAR swirl? Because he was one of the unicorns that raised the sun and moon before celestia and luna


Sun is also a star so if Celistis controlled sun then she controlled the stars


I think that Grogar did release Luna, sacrificing himself instead of her. I think he had the power to release himself, but helped release Luna, thinking she had a better chance to take over Equestria. Luna might also control the stars, so as Nightmare Moon she could free him for extra help with ruling Equestria later on.


Starswirl was the only one who appreciated Luna - maybe he set her free


Me after hearing “ Yoshi dark lord “ for the 150th time:<br>Aight imma head out

Me after hearing “ Yoshi dark lord “ for the 150th time:
Aight imma head out


Or maybe it really is Celestia… from fan side, look at ,,Lullaby for a Princess”


Starters is just like the sun so doesn’t Celestia control the stars?