I'm inclined to believe it was Celestia. Remember, Lauren Faust wrote the two episodes. The pilot episode(s), as in "the episode where not every idea is fully fleshed out and a solid canon doesn't quite exist yet." I think it's entirely possible that the original idea of Princess Celestia was the ruler of Equestria that controlled, get this, the celestial bodies. It was only decided later that Celestia exclusively gets the sun and Luna, the moon.
When that decision happened, I can't say, but I would guess it happened after the conception of the character Princess Celestia, otherwise her name would be something more specific to the sun, just like how Princess Luna is the Lunar princess.
So why not rework the episode? Maybe it was already in production and no one wanted to start over. But, more importantly, even if they wanted to rework the script, how much would it really affect? A few lines at the beginning and/or end of the episode? I would say it wasn't worth it, because the pilot wasn't about how Nightmare Moon was banished and some cosmic scheme to release her, it was about the six main characters becoming friends.

I'm inclined to believe it _was_ Celestia. Remember, Lauren Faust wrote the two episodes. The _pilot_ episode(s), as in "the episode where not every idea is fully fleshed out and a solid canon doesn't quite exist yet." I think it's entirely possible that the original idea of Princess Celestia was the ruler of Equestria that controlled, get this, the _celestial_ bodies. It was only decided later that Celestia exclusively gets the sun and Luna, the moon.
When that decision happened, I can't say, but I would guess it happened after the conception of the character Princess Celestia, otherwise her name would be something more specific to the sun, just like how Princess Luna is the Lunar princess.
So why not rework the episode? Maybe it was already in production and no one wanted to start over. But, more importantly, even if they wanted to rework the script, how much would it really affect? A few lines at the beginning and/or end of the episode? I would say it wasn't worth it, because the pilot wasn't about how Nightmare Moon was banished and some cosmic scheme to release her, it was about the six main characters becoming friends.


I remember some dialogue that Celestia also controlled the sun and stars. I think it was from the beginning scene of the Mlp game.


I really love this channel. So amazingly smart and entertaining


Exactly 1000 years to the day is quite the coincidence, especially considering it matches an ancient prophesy (which I'm pretty sure Celestia wrote). I think that Nightmare Moon wasn't released, the spell simply ended. Celestia and the Tree knew when the spell would end because they were the ones who cast it and were indirectly working together to prepare.


I got a good question that piped into my mind. Why don’t unicorns have magic related cutie marks. Entire families like applejack’s have cutie marks related to farming, entire teams of Pegasus make up the Wonderbolts. Why rarely do unicorns have cutie marks relating to magic?


Okay, if Celestia had had visions and known everything about Twilight's destiny, she wouldn't have been so freaked out when she knew she had to send her away in the first place. Look at the beginning of season 7. Perhaps the tree was behind of all of this all along


The stars kind of look like their in the shape of a compass at some points so maybe something similar to the Chinese myth of the four symbols with sometimes includes a fifth: the azure dragon of the east, the vermilion bird of the south, the white tiger of the west, the black tortoise of the north, and the yellow dragon of the center. Though, I’m not sure the animals that represent the five areas would have that much power if they were to exist in Equestria


<3 Love the theory Brony!! Love and miss your theories, glad to see you live


Okay, here’s my theory!

In episode 3 it’s mentioned that Celestia has a nephew and it can’t be Luna’s because she’s been in the moon for a thousand years and Prince Blue-Blood is not an alicorn which means he doesn’t live forever. So unless Luna adopted him as soon as she was released, there might be a third sister here. We’ve got the princess of the sun, the princess of the moon, and... the princess of the stars. This third princess could be in space, closer to the stars, which could be why we never see her, but she could have been the one to release Luna. She could have been up there just keeping Luna company for all I know.


Maybe the pony controlling the stars is and was always Star Swirl you can see it in his name and cutie mark. Even when he was banished in the limbo he could probably do stuff with the equestrian world in the same way that Discord kinda did when he disguised himself as Grogar and freed Tirek from another dimension (Aka tartarus). The gaps are filled and I can't personally think of any other explanation about what's going on with the stars.


well, the way that the stars were placed to get nightmare moon out of the moon, it looked like twilights cutie mark.


When Luna has a child. Her child will probably play her part. Ya know.... walk in dreams. Celestia and Luna's Child will rule the day and night while Twilight rules the whole land and ranked at a higher level.


It could, like he stated in a previous video, have been Celestia and Luna's parents. Maybe their mother or father had control over the stars like Luna could control the moon and Celestia the sun. But the sun is technically a star, therefore Celestia could have control over them, but I highly doubt that for the same reasons stated in the video. Grogar could still be the force behind it. Being a ram he could very well have been the constellation Ares which is usually represented by 4 or 5 stars, like the ones that released Nightmare Moon. Though I do like the theory that the Elements (AKA the Spirit of The Elements (Spirit of Harmony)) was the one to release Luna. Ever since the pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, the only ones who could wield them were Celestia and Luna, but they couldn't use them to the same degree the Mane 6 could. When they used the Elements (which brought them together and were represented as their cutie marks) they could do thing Celestia and Luna couldn't, at least as far as we know. The Spirit of Harmony could very well have been waiting for the Mane 6 to come together so Nightmare Moon could be released and reformed back into Luna. If the Elements could have reformed Nightmare Moon so easily, why didn't Celestia do it herself? I believe that only the Mane 6 had this ability, like their ability, even without true magic as they knew it, were able to use the Elements to defeat Tyric only using the power/magic of friendship. The Elements had to be wielded by the Mane 6 in order to reform Luna from Nightmare Moon. Either one of these theories could be true. Their parents wanting to free their daughter after seeing her trapped in the moon for a millennia. Grogar wanting to free his fellow Mistress of Darkness and Fear. Or the Spirit of Harmony freeing her to set forth the defeat of many villains leading to two different trees coming from its ruin. Twilight's Crystal Castle, and the Students Crystal Tree after the Spirit of Harmony itself tested them. But it would be interesting if there was a third sister, one who controlled the stars. Which leads to the questions, what would she look like, what would her name be, why haven't we seen her, and if she did exist, where is she and what happened to her? I say her since the only appearance of a male Alicorn we have seen was during the dreams where Big Mac took the form of an Alicorn. We have no proof of other Alicorns existing besides Celestia and Luna and the ones they created being Cadence and Twilight (Not counting Flurry since Celestia stated she has never seen an Alicorn actually being born the way they are and Luna saying that this is something not even they knew was possible). If a third sister existed, what would have been her motive to free Nightmare Moon from her prison? Nightmare Moon was a tyrant and a villain, what good would come of freeing her? Unless the third sister was also evil and that's why she is never mentioned or referenced. She could have somehow escaped imprisonment like the kind that befell Nightmare Moon. If so, what is her plan, where is she hiding, and how would she play into the grand scheme of things? We know that Luna's opposite form was Nightmare Moon and Celestia's is Daybreaker. We also know both names play into their roles of controlling the Sun and Moon respectively, but what would their sibling's name have been as well as their opposite forms name........ I got real off topic here but maybe you could create a video from the sibling theory.... I doubt you'll actually read this though seeing how long it is but who knows.


I think I know who did...
It was their mother.
Although it only shows their parents once, it appears their mother has something to do with the galaxy and the STARS! After all, the sun and moon are just part of the galaxy. Their parents aren’t a part of the story, and are never shown, but it never said they were dead. They could’ve simply retired, just like Luna and celestia did.
But you could be wondering, “why didn’t they get freed sooner then?” And here’s my answer. The world wasn’t ready, and more importantly, celestia wasn’t ready. If nightmare moon was freed any sooner, the mane 6 wouldn’t have been ready to fight her, leaving celestia to fight on her own. But of she was freed any later, she would’ve been to strong for them to handle.
Soon after she was freed, other villains began attacking, and that would’ve weakened them to the point it would be easy for nightmare moon to take over. Besides, they needed Luna to help them if they were to win against the other villains. I’m guessing that their parents knew this, and freed her at just the right point in time for the rest of equestria to be set on its safest route.


Doesn't anyone else think that  <br>Twilight should be the princess of stars except being the princess of friendship

Doesn't anyone else think that
Twilight should be the princess of stars except being the princess of friendship


maybe a bigger power than the sisters. Maybe a more powerful alicorn that we'll never find out about.


i have a question and that no one in the fandom ever asked or thought of it. What was Discords Plan in S9, what was he gonna do with the bewitching bell? or did he plan to get his power drained so twilight can save the day? who knows thats why im commenting this on you.<br>But im very very curious what discord had plan with the bewitching.

i have a question and that no one in the fandom ever asked or thought of it. What was Discords Plan in S9, what was he gonna do with the bewitching bell? or did he plan to get his power drained so twilight can save the day? who knows thats why im commenting this on you.
But im very very curious what discord had plan with the bewitching.


Yes, the sun is a star but those four things couldn't have had any significant influence on the moon if they were stars. My theory was and is that those four things are not stars but some other animate entities that helped nightmare moon, possibly linked to whatever turned her into nightmare moon.

And seeing all the EQ movies and how equestrian magic "corrupts" it's users and how Luna seems so out of character in those scenes and how she looks shocked right before turning into NM.... I think Luna had the least influence over what is going on.


In Faust's tweet, she says, "And who controls the sun and the moon and the stars...?" This is a big indicator that all those three things can be controlled. Maybe they have to be controlled by Luna and Celestia in order for them to move, but only Celestia was in charge of both day and nighttime, so she could control the stars as well to set Nightmare Moon free. Plus, for Celestia saying she "saw the signs" of Nightmare Moon's return, she most likely said that as to not lose the trust of her subjects, and most of all, Twilight Sparkle. Celestia was so calm about it all. And why would the stars release Nightmare Moon right as Twilight was looking at them? Celestia must have known about that, and released her right then and there.


You should do a theory of why Luna’s color pallet changed from season 1 to what we see now. It wasn’t just her hair that got flow-y and changed, it was her body color too. We don’t see that with Tailight when she becomes a princess with flowing hair at the end of the show. And I wonder if Celestia had a color change too?


Well I mean...whether it makes sense or not, Faust is hinting that it was Celestia..that was no one else controlling the sun and moon but her alone.

I don't think it makes sense because the prophecy doesn't sound like a self-fulfilling prophecy, it sounds like agents working outside Celetia's control.

If that's the way Faust intended it, well, early episodes indicate Celestia was always suppose to be a troll, but obviously in later seasons she became more of a push-over (which I don't like).
Celestia being a troll makes her look competent and calculated which would make her a strong leader.

I don't think it really makes her a liar if she said she saw the signs, especially if she wrote the signs...but then that would mean she has some incredible foresight,  1000+ years worth of foresight, that makes her almost god-like. And isn't she suppose to be some kind of deity?

In any case, having worked some of this out, it doesn't look that far fetched anymore. But I don't know for sure yet.


Honestly I think Faust was referencing a higher power. Celestia controls the sun. She's not supposed to control the moon, and noone really controls the Stars. As far as I'm aware, it's never mentioned that Celestia controlled the stars, she raised and lowered the sun and moon, that's it.
So while I don't think it's Harmony that did it, I do think it was a higher power that isn't Celestia. No, not Discord, and I definitely don't think it's Grogar (How would he even control the stars, even if he was made of them?).
Maybe it's a reference that Celestia and Luna did have a mother and father relating to sky and earth like in Maori legend, or other legends as well. Two beings that controlled - or even were - the very earth and the very sky. Or maybe simply one. Fausticorn, anyone? The wink makes me think it's a troll, or that she is referencing Fausticorn. As you said, J.K. Rowling has made similar amusing and downright silly tweets. They have to be taken with a grain of salt.

Honestly I think Faust was referencing a higher power. Celestia controls the sun. She's not *supposed* to control the moon, and noone really controls the Stars. As far as I'm aware, it's never mentioned that Celestia controlled the stars, she raised and lowered the sun and moon, that's it.
So while I don't think it's Harmony that did it, I do think it was a higher power that isn't Celestia. No, not Discord, and I definitely don't think it's Grogar (How would he even control the stars, even if he was made of them?).
Maybe it's a reference that Celestia and Luna did have a mother and father relating to sky and earth like in Maori legend, or other legends as well. Two beings that controlled - or even were - the very earth and the very sky. Or maybe simply one. Fausticorn, anyone? The wink makes me think it's a troll, or that she *is* referencing Fausticorn. As you said, J.K. Rowling has made similar amusing and downright silly tweets. They have to be taken with a grain of salt.


On one of your previous videos about the elements of disharmony and is they existed they would mean things but I think they would be the opposite of the element of harmony so the would be kindness-mean honesty-lier generosity-selfifness loyalty-disloyalty laughter-unhappines and the magic well I guess dark magic I think this cus in the episode the mean six and discord return it says this


Honestly, It makes perfect sense why celestia would free nightmare moon. I don't think that the only reason why she did it was because she wanted to test Twilight and the mane six. Sure, that most likely play a part in it, but I think the biggest reason is because she wanted her sister back. And she knew the mane six where the only ones who could "save"  Luna.


I believe, Celestia knew that Twilight will exist and she set the timeing just for her.
How did she know? Why exacly 1000 years?
That has something to do with the Tree of Harmony. Or does it? The Tree arranges everything, does it? Or the tree is just the part of a grater machine? Let's start the story in a more ancient time. When the 3 types of ponys got united. The moment when the magic of friendship was born. From that moment it started to grow, it united the aciend mane6, but it wasn't perfect. Their elements are important, but more self-orianted elements. They're important too, the Crusaders still do this finding yourself ways and it's represented by the cutie marks. Since the elements as jewelerrys turn cutie-mark shaped, we can clearly say that cutie-marks has a lot to do with friendsip. Than the Pillars planted the Tree of Harmony, but with Stigeon they weren't really friendly. That was a big mistake in the system. Than the tree grew, more friendship-related elements, the elements of harmony came alive. Celestia on her own couldn't use them to reform Nightmare Moon, but another banishment happened. That was the second mistake in the system. But when the mane6 came, they used the elements seperatly, as friends, so they had more power. We can see "the magic of friendship grow" in the entire series and after. It reformes a lot of villians, empires return, creatures get friendlyer, reformes kingdoms, gets to other dimentions. And she knew that in a 1000 years the magic of friendship will grow enough to reform Nightmare Moon. Was it a vision or did she study this magic and calculated it? Somehow she did know it.


Separate Theory I've kept flopping back on. the 7th element. Hear me out. Referring to the Pillars, the Mane 6, and the Mane 6 Equestria Girls. Each one tends to bring on a 7th AFTER the 7th was a villain, the Pillars had Stygian, Mane 6 has Starlight, and EG has Sunset/Twilight. There IS a 7th element, Forgiveness/Redemption. While Stygian WAS a part of the pillars before becoming the pony of shadows, he wasn't really close to them, like a friend, until after the Mane 6 helped him realize his mistake and the Pillars forgave him/Stygian's redemption (Forgiveness fits better). Starlight is more obvious, with Twilight forgiving her for nearly destroying the timeline and she redeems herself by being helpful all around and eventually helping with friendship problems before taking over as headmare of the school of friendship. EG is a little trickier, as it's harder to determine the 7th there, but I would say it ends up as Sunset. Since EG is supposed to mirror FiM, it would make sense that Sunset is the Starlight of EG, down to the similar names (Starlight Glimmer/Sunset Shimmer). Sunset was the first to be shown forgiveness by FiM's Twilight and the EG rest of mane 6 (and EG Twilight's Geo was magic, with Sunset's being mindreading/insight). I feel you could add more to this than I can.

Also Wavy Hair is Related to a female pony's magic, Older Twilight, Celestia, Luna, Mistmane and most likely Gusty the Great. When Celestia/Luna were without magic like the end of season 9 and Tirek, their hair stopped flowing. Also when Twilight had Celestia's, Luna's, and Cadence's magic, her mane would flash the Flowy way, as well as during the season 9 vanquishing of Sombra and the Legion of Doom/Crystalis, Terik, and Cozy. Just a mini-theory added to the hair flowing thing. Obviously Mistmane and Gusty would have the flowing hair since Gusty would have had to be very powerful to lock up the bell and Mistmane was an original Pillar.


that man is speaking the truth about the deepest mystery of the show


i'm assuming star swirl perhaps i mean it kind of makes sense because he has star in his name and does have some pretty strong magic also correct me if i'm wrong but i think he can also see the future


What if the stars were controled by nightmare moon herself? Sure, Luna controls the night and moon while nightmare moon control nightmares, however, Luna controls the night as much as the moon because the moon's one of the reasons there's night, and since nightmare moon is controling Luna, maybe she tried to move the stars. And I think that's where the tree of hamony played the part. I think it made it so that the four stars would be at the same position until Twillight and her friends came along. What I find interesting, is Twillight's cutie mark. Sure it resembles magic, but it shows like stars, maybe she did it, unknowing of course. Maybe, the tree of hamony was using Twillight. But, who knows.


Error how does one control the stars? Remember the star spiders. Who would want NMM to return? Who would want to build a statue of NMM? Who would write a magic book and leave it in a place that only a dragon or an alicorn could get to? Does it seem like some mysterious actor is spending a lot of time and effort around the castle of the two sisters?


I think that Sunset Shimmer was the one who released the Nightmare Moon, cause how would she know about Nightmare's Moon defeat and about the elements of harmony ?
Cause she had to bee a very long time in Equestrian high to learn how to be a human... And when Twilight camed to Equestrian high, you can clearly see Sunset Shimmer's pictures in Celestia's office...
And in the episode when Sunset and others defeated and destroyed the memory stone, you can clearly hear her says: "this isn't Equestria, princess Celestia, what is this thing ? Somepony help..."
And we all know that Sunset was old Celestia's student, soo she is gone for a very long time... and actually It makes sense... Sunset was the most gifted unicorn of all, but when Sunset waned more power and to become an alicorn, Celestia refused... soo... maybe that was Sunset's revange ? I honestly don't know... but what do you guys think ?
Tell me if you think that this is correct or not


Can you please do a theory on the Kirin cause I’m confused why they were never brought up in the show again.


Actually it should be a different pony. The tree would notice the change in destiny and keep Nigthmare Moon locked, and i am pretty sure Celestia was counting with a pupil not just destiny so i doubt that she would release her without a pupil and without the sonic rainbow i can't think of anypony capable of becoming her pupil. But afterwards Lauren said to don't believe in everything she say.


It was Luna! (Nightmare moon)<br>Cuz in the MLP game in Luna's description it says "Luna Controls the moon and stars"

It was Luna! (Nightmare moon)
Cuz in the MLP game in Luna's description it says "Luna Controls the moon and stars"


I think star swirl played the largest role as his name is STARswirl and I think similar to how celesta and Luna control the sun and moon, starswirl could control some of the stars.<br>One could also interpret Lauren Faust's comment as saying that star swirl since it is much easier to see him controlling the stars and one could say that he controls the sun and stars has he was Celestia and Luna's teacher's before he left and he and a few other unicorns raised the sun and in a royal problem it is stared that it is easier to raise the moon with luna's magic then to raise the sun with Celestia's magic.

I think star swirl played the largest role as his name is STARswirl and I think similar to how celesta and Luna control the sun and moon, starswirl could control some of the stars.
One could also interpret Lauren Faust's comment as saying that star swirl since it is much easier to see him controlling the stars and one could say that he controls the sun and stars has he was Celestia and Luna's teacher's before he left and he and a few other unicorns raised the sun and in a royal problem it is stared that it is easier to raise the moon with luna's magic then to raise the sun with Celestia's magic.


What if the stars were Starswirl or something putting it as a background spell or something slowly merging around the moon over a thousand years and Celestia just asked him to


Maybe when she cast the spell it only lasted so long. She didn't know that when she casted the spell but technically she did release her because there was a time limit on the spell.....?


maybe luna controls stars and celestiare  controls brightness or might control pheonxs    like flutter shy


What if twighhlight accidentally released nightmare moon after reading the story of nightmare moon and celestial saw the sights and sent twighlight to defeat nightmare


I still think it was Celestia... she has used villains for tests before.


I am not claiming to be canon, but the Gameloft game of MLP describes her that she controls the stars too. Maybe they let it slip in the dialogs and as it would be weird they ignored but added it ib the game.


What if the tree somehow uses starswirl's power since he's more powerful then celestia???


I just realize something. Go back to the artificial and non-artificial  Alcorns maybe you were wrong about which ones are artificial I think flurry is the real one and all the rest are artificial


<b>Celestia did an oopsie, or did she?</b>


I really like the idea of the Tree of Harmony controlling the events leading up to the Return of Nightmare Moon. It makes sense. But as you said earlier in the video, it is possible that Celestia had to wait for new Element Bearers to show up.


wait how did the tree control everything in ep 1 if it was dying?


I have held back on this but what if Celestia had an Older sister?I have seen comics about it and maybe she ruled the stars?But Celestia lied to Luna about her,and this is where betrayal comes in and Their older sister tries to manipulate Luna with the lies Celestia told her to keep her safe?I got this theory from the comics (Princess Trixie Sparkle) and a Animatic called ’Sorrowful Regretful’ and didn’t know if it could mean something.


Maybe not Starswirl but an apprentice perhaps. like Clover The Clever?


theres a scene in the gala song where celestia is jumping from one cloud to another, and stars are moving behind her noticebly, so I dont know if that means anything


Hi Brony Notion!! Just want to know how come in the first season of mlp, Luna's hair was still a simple straight mane but during the battle of discord that happened a thousand years ago, her mane was then wavy?? After a few more episodes, it then became wavy again??


Well luna turning into nightmare moon wasn't all bad. Think about it, when she was released from the moon she was sad because of nightmare night but there really was no reason to. She now gets to copyright claim nightmare night for that night and every other nightmare night that happened over the past 1000 years. Sure it might make equestria go bankrupt but since luna has the night shift she doesn't have to deal with the angry protesters😀.


I think twilight sparkle alined the stars the reson behind my theory is her cutemark . The 4 stars sounding the big perpil one are the exact same as the ones that allowed Nightmare moon's escape what do you think ???? SPISIPHIKLY the bronenation


I think it was twilight because she has 4 stars and she probably controls the stars


This probably sounds stupid but...maybe NightMare Moon waited until she was strong enough to use her magic to escape because

Celestia = day
Luna = night

So Luna might be the one who controls the stars


A co jeśli gwiazdy to osobne byty i poruszają się same? Dowodami mogą być np Wielka i Mała Niedźwiedzica🤔


Hey!  You should watch the episode where the cutie mark crusaders poisoned Big Mac and their teacher with a love drink! ❤

 The book they find this in tells us about a prince and an alicorn princess.  This princess may be Luna's and Celestia's mother??!! 😱😱😱😱


I don't think Celestia was the one that released Nightmare Moon I think it's Twilight Sparkle because of her cutie mark, isn't a star and Twilight Sparkle must be the one that could control the stars


Who controls the stars... I was thinking that twilight set this whole thing up to make here look good. Or of course it could have star light wanting to get another evil force on here side. Or it might have been  STARSWIRL! Of course I know he's in limbo but hes a powerful wizard so maby he had enough power to let nightmare moon out of here prison? You can never know with these kind of things


Luna controls the moon and you see moon  with stars? hmmm 🤔 maybe celestia did


Question 101: while making ur video about how Star Swirl created Alicorns u said that to become an Alicorn a pony had to create new magic,but only unicorns can make magic so can only unicorns become alicorns or do Pegasuses and Earth ponies do something else? :)


celestia did because the is a star too so she has control over all of them but it was kept a secret


it was luna BECAUSE well she controls the moon and the stars only show when the moon is out so the stars might have there own mind or something and the stars think they should free luna  so yes she sent her to the moon but the stars might have a mind of its own and set luna free


Stars are still suns they are just far away so it could still be Celestia


This still doesn't change the fact that Celestia orchestrated the fates of the Mane 6 with her own trials in order to test them but this came into cost of focusing there Kingdom on the heroes instead of having suitable Aid to help them on Quest they know they need help with; & it's the lack of improvement & Leadership that kead to Repeated Instances where Equestria was Invaded or in Turmoil yet got worse before the 6 resolved the problem. And people wonder why I'm truly Loyal to Princess Flurryheart.


Maybe it is celestia why wasn't she thier then maybe she was trying to test twilight like you said she has visions so maybe she was doing test becuase she saw she would make a great princess with her friends by her side and celestia did control the moon sun and stars so it could be possible


i think faust was only half true while the rest is you correct theory as the tree used celestia just not as a literal mind controlled puppet if anything i think grogar was given the chance to learn from his mistakes from the sky by aiding the tree in bringing nightmare moon back and after that grogar learned from all the mane 6 lessons and saw the error of his ways meaning that once the comics come out grogar will be the one to reveal celestia set nightmare moon free because he and harmony herself told her too meaning that harmony may have existed inside twilight and wanted to make sure she became twilight just like how pinochio finale become a real boy harmony probably wanted to become a real pony not just any pony, twilight herself and chose grogar of all creatures to help guide twilight meaning grogar was a reformed jimminy cricket for twilight not celestia or discord


Controls the sun and stars ? you mean like how twilight does now? wait.....


Equestria Girls Twilight somehow has wings in the 4th movie but when she goes to the portal she doesn't


Who the heck controlled the stars?!

Me: the animator ●_●


Omg twilight controls the stars  cause y would she have "star" in her name so technically twilight released nightmare moon and btw proof in 1st episode she was using her horn while looking at night mare moon u can hear it if u listen closely and grogar is still trapped in stars cause remember discord pretended to be grogar so yea


What if nightmare moon controled those stars?


CELSTIA CONTROLS THE STARS SINCE THE SUN IS A DAMN STAR lol


“What brought them all here in pony ville in the 1st place”<br>I was thinking about the super sonic double rain boom

“What brought them all here in pony ville in the 1st place”
I was thinking about the super sonic double rain boom


My favourite part was celestia with troll face


What if celestia planned this howl thing?!?! And then also set discord free not when the cmc’s argued and then gave him the elements and also set free all the other villains for other tests for the main 6 and what if Luna was still doing the dreams just not able to get off the moon (I mean that she went into sin butt’s dreams) 🤔 (I confuse things a lot don’t blame u if u don’t understand)


I am not sure it's the tree because idk what season but we learn that the tree was dying ( maybe been a long time since I watched it ) and because of that I am not sure if the tree had that much power to tell Celestia or give Celestia the vision of what would happen or have the power to free luna also saying that the tree only gained power once twilight and her friends gave up the jewels so again the tree didnt have that much power so it could have used power it had gained and stored to use to help Celestia see what would happen or to free luna but this is just a thought


It might be Luna and Celestia's mother and father


so i have an idea what if for "watch the season over who controls the sun the moon and the stars?" sure celestia at the time was doing all of it but here is my idea.. what if it was discord? he aided in here escape cuz sure we was frozen but what if his magic could now only help other villains escape? I mean hes discord right? so it makes sense if the magic anyone uses to turn him to stone will freeze him and "take away his magic" well no discord means chaos right? so chaos is like no harmony well because at the time the tree of harmony was waiting to grow well having no harmony means discord so im thinking discord is the reason she escaped because sure the stone frezzed him and all but where did his magic go? Because the tree of harmony was never there for a LONG LONG time before twilight and her friends grew it again but with that harmony discord just got stronger and stronger. Now going from this how would simple stone that easily broke in after time hold so much magic? Well I think the stone can hold HIM from escaping and his magic from breaking down the city towns and stuff, BUT can't hold him from HELPING see harmony is basically helping and love and stuff right? well see helping he IS helping but not in the way he should of see thats so important to my theory now i'm not saying this is 100% right BUT im not saying its wrong cuz to me this makes sense anyways lets continue so discord was helping nightmare moon escape until she reformed now this next part idk if it makes 100 100% sense but what if he used so much magic to brake her free that his magic was running low but just enough to help her stay strong UNTIL the main 6 came and used the elements of harmony now going from your theory in the past the element and the tree of harmony are STRONGER then discord so him using to much magic to free nightmare moon means he dose not have enough with her magic and his magic to fight back the element meaning they reformed nightmare moon! Now sorry for this being so long but we are almost done (you can 100% use this theory for a video if you want) anyways time to continue so now think about this sure the stone was made by the elements and celestia BUT what if now this is an idea i love but what IF discord just had enough magic to control celestia into helping out now going a bit by your theory the stars dont move thats correct BUT what if it had a bit to do with celestia now im thinking that the stars leave the sky from celestia once the sun is in place like think we never rlly see the stars in the same place right? so what if celestia moves them once the sun is in place cuz if the stars leave the sky while the moon is leaving it will be REALLY dark! So! Celestia moves them like i said AFTER the sun is out! Now lets say this is wrong! Well that CAN be 100% right BUT i'm thinking discord maybe made celestia do it by controlling her body for 3 mins now celestia saw with her own eyes that the stars aided in her escape but the reason she said that is she technically did not help that was discord doing that now that MAKES SENSE cuz celestia is not one to really lie right? so shes not lying here cuz like i said tech it WAS discord right? Again im sorry for this being long but im almost almost done. now the "No One's Ever Really Gone..." See what if now that discord was out what if he helped make ALL the villain A. Turn Make Evil For A Season to "Test" Princess Twilight And Her Friends? So Or B. The rest of the reformed villains did not change back but he JUST let out the ones that were in prisoned now im ALSO talking in tarterus! Ok Ok Now I'll leave the rest to you but i deff think this IS worth exploring maybe in parts but I personally will be prob doing a video on this on my channel  i worked so hard on this idea and piecing together was so much fun! I'm still missing so so much but this is worth exploring!


Just wanted to know that how old is Celestia and Luna cuz they were even there when Twilight grew up and when Twilight's a princess how old are they?


Hey brony here's my theory,Luna set nightmare moon free. Luna are two different ponys even tho they share the same body. Their like siameze twins share a body but are two different people. And it says " on the longest night" and Luna controls the moon which controls night. Luna knew that in a 1000 years the elements of harmony would be found and so would the pony to control them, so I think Luna set nightmare moon free. Just my theory tho<br>I hope you see this

Hey brony here's my theory,Luna set nightmare moon free. Luna are two different ponys even tho they share the same body. Their like siameze twins share a body but are two different people. And it says " on the longest night" and Luna controls the moon which controls night. Luna knew that in a 1000 years the elements of harmony would be found and so would the pony to control them, so I think Luna set nightmare moon free. Just my theory tho
I hope you see this


I Am Confused that twilight was so shoked when Celestia said that Luna was her sister. in the begining of friendship is magic part 1 twilight read about it in a book ?


hmm what if there another princess who controlled the stars, like twilight or cadence


What makes the color of a unicorn's magic? For example Sunburst's mom has   green-coloured magic on her orange horn.


Ya know... the sun IS a star... Lauren could just be trying to mislead us... so...


Stars are just smaller suns so thinking I sellester controlled the sun she can also can control small suns witch we call stars


And can you please post a video on who is princess Amore. Referring to the ruler of the Crystal Empire in the Journal of the Two Sisters


And Nightmare Moon Was the strongest VERSION of luna and Luna is a princess so Couldn't Nightmare moon let HERSELF OUT??????


Idk what to say but ima say this-

I think at the beginning I believed twilight was the princess of stars but I figured that Luna was princess of moon and stars I saw nightmare moon at the beginning at 1 episode so. Nightmare moon let herself out from the control of the stars and I figured 4 stars are Luna, Celistia, Twilight, and cadence maybe nightmare moon gotten they’re magic some how she might’ve gotten out. The harmony’s chosen Aj, Rainbow dash, Twilight sparkle, Fluttershy, Rarity, I think that’s all of the ponies. Then all of the ponies got chosen deafted nightmare moon then after som eps I think celistia letted Luna out it wasn’t a thousand years she probably learned her lesson.


this is crazy but twighlight already probily cintrolls the stars just saying


Have you ever noticed that sunset shimmer doesn't have a duplicate which means she is a pony from equestria and there was no duplicate there so is she a changeling that would explain her powers that she had and when she turned into a demon she was a student of Chelstia so that's how she found the portal but why steal the crown how did she know their was magic in it


In the game My littel pony the description of Luna is( ruling over the Moon and star ) if celestia rise the moon in place of her sister when she was on the moon sow of course she can move the star to


0:56 Did she really say that? That theu fertilize the ground? 😊🤣


maybe thers other alicorn or pony who control stars but we didnt see her or him


Did anyone see the change in Luna's mane? No one has ever mentioned about it...


I think Who was the one that who’s controlling the start


Hai I have some more questions here so if you can plz answerrr :
1. Chrysalis is "queen", Sombra is "king", Tirek is "lord" and they are around celestia and luna level so why then are tia and luna just "princesses"
2. If starswirl casted spell on tia and luna an they turn into alicorns, cuz they raise sun and moon easly, then why he didn't cas that spell on somepony who easly control weather, nature, light or something like that??
3. What if tia and luna are connnected ti princess platinum?
4. We know there are 2 worlds, so that means equestria and human world, but what if equestria is just a part of world so wat is with other places??
5. We als know that celestia told mane 6 that discord can use his magic for good, but why didn't she told that about idk chrysalis or somone else what if before discord was on princesses side?
6. Before it all, before equestria, before starswirl, before racism, were there alicorns. Cuz i dont think that tia and luna are first alicorns ever.. What if alicorns created unicorns pegasus and earth ponies....
7. So if celestia cutie mark is sun, and luna's moon, then what about their parents cutie marks? And do they had other siblings?
8. Final question- sience harmony tree was destroyed why didn't twilight or somepony else created something new? And wat da f*** happend to ever free forest is casted spell on it to sleep or something?
PLZ ANSWER IF YOU CANNN


I think I know how control the star it could be twilight sparkle because just look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little around it so it could be Twilight sparkle!!!


Celestia is a scheming god-pony, I'm pretty sure she was behind this. It's not the first time we saw her have long-lasting plans involving complicated manipulations of other ponies.


<b>”Śtårš, Fütūrë, Møøń, Śüñ, Dāÿ, ñïght... Mågįç åñd łïfę. Thėÿ łįė ïñ ūš åłl, Ïš thėrę å pøñÿ whø čøńtrołš thėm åłl?”</b> (this is for another theory )

*”Śtårš, Fütūrë, Møøń, Śüñ, Dāÿ, ñïght... Mågįç åñd łïfę. Thėÿ łįė ïñ ūš åłl, Ïš thėrę å pøñÿ whø čøńtrołš thėm åłl?”* (this is for another theory )


I think STARSWIRL controls the stars! I think you can guess why uco


I have came up sorta with a question that is the magic element of harmony supposed to be sunsets or Twilights because if you think about it sunset stepped in on rainbow rock and became another part of the rainbow. But then in the next movie the friendship games The other twilight joins the crew leaving someone without an element also if you think about it sunset used to be celestias pupil so is the element of magic belong to sunset. Furthermore the spirit of harmony shows up as twilight if you think about it. So is twilight just the spirit of harmony and sunset the element of magic it would also explain the ending in the movie where the sunset turns into a pheonix then a star as there is another star that is purple but doesn't shine so bright. I would love to hear what you think and ask if you could make a video on it? You could also find evidence against or for my theory. I just wamt to here your thoughts.


Wait a minute! Is it true that Luna's boyfriend is king Sombra bc if u look on the internet you see alot of pictues of them together (so on youtube) but you see also some pictures of Luna whit a chain on her neck??? so is she sombra's girlfriend??? or not im confused! Brony Notion pls explain this!


wait a minute I realized something that the tree did this then the vines were it's doing maybe I perpecfully weakened it's magic so that it unite the six  maybe the kidnapping of Luna and celestria was it's doing


I thing celestia might have because she controls the sun and the sun is a star so that means she controls the stars


Ok don't get mad at me but I think it was Chrysalis mabey she gets star power and is just jealous of Celestia and Luna or Cadence on accident I am just thiking of possibilitys ok


I think maybe luna and celestia's parents as people have said queen glaxia and king cosmos


How did starlight glimmer did it!?!?!?! I am not sure I am sooo confuse!?!?!?!?!?!


the sun is a giant star and the stars are mini suns so celestia can control the stars to Btw im on my dads account <3


Or maybe...... Luna did it! because when twilight sparkle was drinking the potion that is white from zecora I see that Luna raised the moon and put the stars together to the moon and she escaped it! But that is a different episode that I forgot what episode.


why are nightmare moon look same as daybreaker when colors inverted


Luna control the stars because she is a princess of the moon only she can control the stars because she is princess of the moon and night


Celestia  controls the day and Luna the night celestia has nothing to do with the stars but Luna her magic was taken with her maybe celestia trapped nightmare moon with another spell to stop her from using magic for 1000 Years that means that after the thousand years to control the stars again and free herself<br>Like if you agree

Celestia  controls the day and Luna the night celestia has nothing to do with the stars but Luna her magic was taken with her maybe celestia trapped nightmare moon with another spell to stop her from using magic for 1000 Years that means that after the thousand years to control the stars again and free herself
Like if you agree


Yo what about flurry heart...
Spoiler alert:

In seson 9 in "the last problem" she was a full grown alicorn and on one of your other vids you said there might be a future season and spike said thats for future spike to handle and flurry heart is an adult so my theory is the different species friend like yona and sandbar are the future generation and flurry heart will be like future cadance


Dear brony notion
I suggest u make a theory about sunset real human form (sci-sunset) that is like sci-twi every pony have a double human and pony form,
Since sunset shimer is from the pony realm then were is sunset original human form? Is there another sunset just like there was a nother twilight and the other pony.
Pls do the theory im still confused thank you😄😁😁


i'm wondering what flurry heart looks like noq


Just look at her cutemark it a Star! And do star's reminds u of friendship or stars!??


OMG i cant Believe no one has said this TWILIGHT IS THE ONE BUT SHE DIDNT DO IT WHITH HER ON WILL IT WAS HER DESTINY my proof is why would we she have STARS on her cutiemark!


I thick I know how control the star it could be Twilight sparkle because look at her cutie mark it has a big star in the middle and little star around it so it could be Twilight sparkle or not!!!


You made me scared so I hope it is not celestia


I think it the purple pony I forgot her name but she is in the friend ship if you know what I’m saying and her cutie mark is a star


OMG YESS I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL AGAIN AHHH


I think a New sister aka a sister that controls stars Will be Shown soon....BUT WILL SHOW UP AT THE BATTLE WHEN the “three friends in prison TOGETHER” Get out WITH GROGAR! Yes I know this sounds crazy but it just my theory


Maybe nobody controls the cars and they are just there.


I have been wondering 1 thing why did brony punch someone 2:32


BUT THE SUN <b>IS</b> A STAR........bruh


The tree of harmony have a spirit and why does the tree have a star in the middle and twilight kidney mark looks like it and maybe the spirit of the three trolling the stars .


Guys Calm down Look what is on LUNAS CUTIE MARK....stars


Who made the changelings and monster grogar?


Twilight controls stars cause her cutie mark is stars


When i was younger i thought twilight sparkle would Ruke the stars because of the cutie mark but now i guess shes princess of friendship ;-;


I.  Think.   Luna.    Controls.  Them to. Escape


DUDE PINKIE HAS MAGIC!?!?!? ON THE EPISODE SCHOOL RAZE  WHEN THE MAGIC CAME BACK PINKIE HAD PINK MAGIC GO INTO HER!!!!! (Not lying go check it out)🤔😯


Well the stars are far away suns sooooo um i guess I could work


make what is really happened to gaea everfree from thimbers story


How did discord know what grogars apperance


This isn't have anything to do with the video but I have a question that I'd like you to answer why Turn off the colors Rainbowdash is all the colors is she like special


brony notion don't you know that luna also controls the star but when the were kids luna didn't know how to control the stars so celestia used to raise the stars until luna learned how to control them oh and can I have a shout out please pretty please


ITS STARSWIRL BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF MAGIC AND IS ONE OF THE PILLARS SO YEA.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


me:finished homeschooling
me:yes easter holidays
me:hmm what's up with his uploads
brony:😠😠😠😠😠


Are you really a pony or a unicorn or a person in real life or Alicorn in real life!!!!


Mhm yeah, totally not a cow in men’s clothing


hi can u talk about my little pony gen 5?


Ho controls the stars are  twilight becuz hi has the tars on here cutie mark sorry if l am not correct lol😑😑😑❤❤


Yo, The Brony Notion, yo.

I've written ya a message to ur Facebook Page, yo.

I'd be highly pleased if you'd help me to solve this mystery, yo.

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Brohoof 'n best regards, yo

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Hmmmmmmm,  think it's starlight glimmer cause before she was bad but now good but, before she was bad how did starlight glimmer did it? Maybe she learned how to do it on book or how? Is it true or not true I am not sure🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨???????????????


No more pony anymore what happens to discord grogar bell the bell is a key open for
Tantabus escaped
Luna jail to freedom discord mind discord turn into the new father of monsters
U don't understand about discord I love him my favorite creatures
Where is new episodes discord happening  🧬?


:O I forgot to sub even tho I have been watching u for a long time.I9m subscribing now


Hem and how do you will see all the episodes of My Little Pony very get that those episodes I don't let them any app


Mabye twilight it is posabl Sorry I'm a bad at speling


Do more vid i whads my litle pony sins i whas 4 im 9 tomorow


My guess is she'd set it that she would return she just wasn't sure when it would happen, she never wanted to send her sister away. So she set a timer and had faith she'd find some pony to save Luna


I always assumed that Celestia had set the stage for Nightmare Moon's return from the moment she sealed her sister to the moon. In the story it explicitly states that "On the longest day of the thousandth year, the stars will aid in her escape." That implies that this was determined long ago, possibly as a part of the spell cast with the Elements.


In the Book, "Journal of the Two Sisters," the story goes that Luna and Celestia began controling the sun and moon when Starswirl and the other unicorn's magic failed. Starswirl also said he'd teach Luna, "How to move the stars."


This reminds me of a fanfic where Celestia asks a well-known archivist / historian to ”tie in” ie renovate Caterlot's huge archive.  Everything is a mystery until the Pony in question finds a link between celestia and the myth of the mare in the moon.

I just wish I could remember what it's called


Okay, here’s a thought. I know you probably touched on this, but it’s still a valid point. WHAT IF those stars in particular weren’t stars at all?! In the real world, there are things like planets and even far off galaxies that resemble stars... but that’s not the thing here. Those stars must have been magical pieces... and what if there was something to Granny Smith’s old tale about the pony of shadows, with  Nightmare Moon’s magic not being truly gone, and perhaps there were leftover magical energy (I’m calling it Mana) that was left behind by something that had happened ages ago, and even though it isn’t sentient per say, it is drawn to magical people/places like iron filings to a magnet.


Celestia wasn't present in the first episode much. She played the part of staying away.<br>How did she know that she should stay away though?

Celestia wasn't present in the first episode much. She played the part of staying away.
How did she know that she should stay away though?


it could have been twilight and the dream team, she now controls the sun and moon and the stars could represent dreams. now the time line thats no problem, twilight knows how to time travel to make sure her friends and herself got that memory to bond. celestia as well she saw the signs that soon she could have been powerful enough to release maybe.


i'm really happy to see people still making mlp videos even after the show's ended. i know i definitely want to get a channel up and running once i finish my rewatch of the whole series/catch up, but i worry about how much attention it might get since some people consider the fandom to be dead now. seeing this kind of thing is encouraging in that respect, so thanks for doing what you do!


Considering that Luna/ Nightmare moon also has control over the night. Its plausible idea that she can control the stars as well. It's still possible that whatever spell that was used could've been weakened over time and she escaped herself possibly using the stars to "break the shield" for lack of a better term and escape.


Well it makes perfect sense and I can see why the shows creator asked us who controls the stars, because later on in the friendship is magic episode  when mayor mayor introduces celestia but then we find out she went poof. Could only have meant  she took off because she didn’t want a fight with her sister  like a thousand moons ago. But in an animation somewhere on YouTube with a little Luna and celestia  when Luna finally raises the moon she’s exhausted,and then her sister asks if she wants help with the stars tonight. And Luna agrees. And I know that isn’t part of the show but celestia is in control of the stars with Luna being mia. At the moment. Because if the suns a star she would have everything to do with the celestial sky with in the domain of equestria thus being able to control constatations as well, meaning she did in fact released her sister with the help of the stars.


I believe that there were other alicorns hiding in the stars. I believe that there may be more alicorns probably hidden throughout the show.


How could Celestia be guided by visions when in an alternate timeline that Celestia released Nightmare Moon after Starlight messed with the timeline, and prevented the Main 6 from becoming the bearers?

No, I'm sorry, but I can't buy her having a vision with Nightmare Moon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've only ever seen her have one vision. Memory might be shakey, so correct me if need be. Regardless, that doesn't mean she was "informed" or anything. And even then, who cares? So she had one or two visions, that doesn't prove her every action is guided by one. That has to be proven. The fact that she went and released Nightmare Moon despite that Twilight couldn't discover the Elements in this timeline, tells me she thought she knew Twilight would find the Elements, and in fact had no vision aiding her whatsoever. And where did that lead her? A trip to the Moon.

At least when Discord's plan blew up in his face, it still succeeded in the end. Celestia may never get the chance to undo what she did in the alternate timeline and her screw up remains screwed.

How could Celestia be guided by visions when in an alternate timeline that Celestia released Nightmare Moon *after* Starlight messed with the timeline, and prevented the Main 6 from becoming the bearers?

No, I'm sorry, but I can't buy her having a vision with Nightmare Moon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've only ever seen her have one vision. Memory might be shakey, so correct me if need be. Regardless, that doesn't mean she was "informed" or anything. And even then, who cares? So she had one or two visions, that doesn't prove her every action is guided by one. That has to be proven. The fact that she went and released Nightmare Moon despite that Twilight couldn't discover the Elements in this timeline, tells me she *thought* she knew Twilight would find the Elements, and in fact had no vision aiding her whatsoever. And where did that lead her? A trip to the Moon.

At least when Discord's plan blew up in his face, it still succeeded in the end. Celestia may never get the chance to undo what she did in the alternate timeline and her screw up remains screwed.


I think the celestia is definitely not the one freeing her sister. Yes it sounds great for her to do but it doesnt make complete sense, as said in the video. I think either the elements did it or maybe nightmare moon. We dont know what "powers" she can do we know of some but not all. She could have used a lot of power to free herself then have to regain it back to fight tia. So she waited then when ready demonstrated and being dramatic used the stars to pretend to make her escape. Then leave just to find her fighting partner gone nowhere to be found and the citizens confused and frightened at her arrival. <br>Summing this up i think that nightmare moon freed herself, regained energy, went all dramatic and aligned the stars to the moon and left the moon ready to fight tia.

I think the celestia is definitely not the one freeing her sister. Yes it sounds great for her to do but it doesnt make complete sense, as said in the video. I think either the elements did it or maybe nightmare moon. We dont know what "powers" she can do we know of some but not all. She could have used a lot of power to free herself then have to regain it back to fight tia. So she waited then when ready demonstrated and being dramatic used the stars to pretend to make her escape. Then leave just to find her fighting partner gone nowhere to be found and the citizens confused and frightened at her arrival.
Summing this up i think that nightmare moon freed herself, regained energy, went all dramatic and aligned the stars to the moon and left the moon ready to fight tia.


I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder if it might be Nightmare Moon herself. We know Luna was taught to move the Stars by Starswirl in the Journal of the Two Sisters, yet we also know Luna was unsuccessful in replicating the effect exactly. Maybe she could move the stars but couldn't adjust for the speed of light, as such it took a thousand years for the movement to be perceptible to Equestria. Its just a guess, and probably needs some adjusting. I dunno, what do you think?


About the video that Twilight killed the tree and how you were talking about the different creatures friendship group and how colors were latched to them and how you were predicting what their element was. You said the tree couldn't forget the pillars and how they have their own elements like strength, beauty, hope, sorcery, and bravery. What if instead of the kindness, honesty, generosity, loyalty, laughter, and magic it was those elements? And the way you would figure out is in the Shadow play part II when they are trying to figure out where the pony of shadows went the elements of harmony spirits stould by a certain pillar. What if the colors were still attatched but they had the meanings of the pillars? Please look into this! Love your theories!💗


4:28 Celestia, at that time she was controlling the Sun and the moon ( and not to mention that the sun is also a star )


What if Luna still had the power to set herself free but waited for the right moment?


i always took worded visions as an analogy twilight has stars and most see early stars at twilight and each element can mean stars its the wording elements ponies twilight celestia wording is what makes it


It could have been apart of the spell celestia cast when sending nightmare moon to the moon thinking of a quick easy temporary spell but with so much power of the elements and mabey  a  a vage vision of twighlight defeating nightmare moon ending up imprisoning her for 1000 years


it was just a temporary time-out for Luna on the moon made by Celestia. Celestia would never abandon her family members, would she?
Also, maybe there was a belief like Greece that killing or betraying family members would cause a curse
or Celestia had a vision or prophecy telling her that she must only trap her for 1000 years, no more.


Y'now, it's possible she did it without realising. At the end of the video, you said celestia didn't control the stars. Maybe she does, and nobody realises. Not even her. I'm not a theorist, however, so I don't know if it's right or wrong...


Wait- we don't know where Celestia and Luna come from... so what if they are actually the children of the Tree of Harmony? Their powers could be fuelled by the tree, so basically, in terms of magic, The Tree of Harmony=Celestia+Luna. Why is this important, you ask? Well, we all know that Celestia did not want her sister imprisoned, and Luna did not want to be trapped on the moon, so maybe their shared desires subconsciously convinced the tree to free Luna/N.M., as their magic would be the exact same thing.


Maybe the Stars are no stars. In Germany, planets sometimes called "Wanderstern" (Roamingstar).

The Stars moved to fast for real stars but maybe these are other planets. And astronomy is nothing unknown in equestria.

The elements were orderd like planets, the telescope in Canterlot and so on.


I have a question, what was that shadow in episode 3 of season 4? could it be the season 7 shadow pony?


Maybe a princess that wasn't in the show controled the stars? Like, from the toys.


To uncover and fully understand the mystery of who orchestrated nightmare-moon's return, we would have to consider the fact that her release was actually prophesied. Which means that the circumstances which would aid her release was what was prophesied not the fact that there would be someone who would defeat and convert nightmare-moon back to princess Luna or the fact that nightmare-moon would be converted at all. So, therefore princess celestia couldn't have been the one to have released nightmare-moon.


Maybe Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon for an even longer time or forever and she didn't want that to happen so she tried to cast a spell to free and reform her but instead she weakened the spell, causing a "timer" of a thousand years for the spell to wear off. And to add Grogar in this, maybe he saw that Celestia weakened the spell that kept Nightmare Moon banished, so in the stars, he helped aid her escape. Grogar and Nightmare Moon were planning what they were going to do once Nightmare Moon was free and prevented her from thinking about what she has become. If you don't understand, then think of this as "time out" in school. Celestia is the teacher and Grogar and Luna are her students. Luna wants to have the best grades in her class but she doesn't do as good as someone else in her class. She becomes a trouble-maker in class or becomes Nightmare Moon and her teacher, Celestia puts her in time out or banishes her to the moon. Grogar is also in time out in the stars and chats with Luna about a revenge plan on Celestia for when they both get out of time out. Celestia gives Luna a second chance and lets her out of time out. Luna is about to commence the revenge plan when the mane 6 convince her not to do it and reforms her. <br>Writing this theory took twenty minutes but hope you like it!! Love your vids💖🧡💛💙💜🦄🦄

Maybe Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon for an even longer time or forever and she didn't want that to happen so she tried to cast a spell to free and reform her but instead she weakened the spell, causing a "timer" of a thousand years for the spell to wear off. And to add Grogar in this, maybe he saw that Celestia weakened the spell that kept Nightmare Moon banished, so in the stars, he helped aid her escape. Grogar and Nightmare Moon were planning what they were going to do once Nightmare Moon was free and prevented her from thinking about what she has become. If you don't understand, then think of this as "time out" in school. Celestia is the teacher and Grogar and Luna are her students. Luna wants to have the best grades in her class but she doesn't do as good as someone else in her class. She becomes a trouble-maker in class or becomes Nightmare Moon and her teacher, Celestia puts her in time out or banishes her to the moon. Grogar is also in time out in the stars and chats with Luna about a revenge plan on Celestia for when they both get out of time out. Celestia gives Luna a second chance and lets her out of time out. Luna is about to commence the revenge plan when the mane 6 convince her not to do it and reforms her.
Writing this theory took twenty minutes but hope you like it!! Love your vids💖🧡💛💙💜🦄🦄


Wouldn’t it be a cool theory to think the stars moved by themselves as part of this destiny? Twilight’s cutie mark is a star with smaller stars around it after all, and cutie marks are linked with destiny. In a world where magic exists, what’s unbelievable about magic stars? Celestia cast that spell to keep Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1,000 years, it could’ve simply worn off by then or weakened, or broke like an expired contract (essentially what it is). So I support the theory in Celestia seeing the signs and preparing Twilight and her friends for the reform, and her choosing not to extend Nightmare Moon’s sentence longer because Celestia felt like the Mane Six were ready. Celestia must’ve known. Whether it was her or the stars themselves, I don’t think it was an accident.


It does make sense that she could have been the one to do it.  I still like your theory of Grogar being the one that did it, but I think it's plausible that Celestia either did it herself or asked someone like Grogar to do it.  She still would want her sister back so desperately, and that's why my theory is that she asked Grogar to cast a spell that would enable NMM's escape in 1000 years, giving her time to find the new elements.  She knew she had found the one who would be the leader when she sensed filly Twi's magic, and it was only like another 10ish years away from the 1000 year mark.  Celestia obviously knew Twilight was going to be the Element of Magic the moment she met her, heck, I even have a headcanon that she started seeing dreams/visions of Twi's cutie mark some time after she banished Luna to the moon, and she spent all those years searching for a pony with that cutie mark.  I also think that if she asked Grogar to cast the spell, she did so carefully, still keeping him imprisoned in Tartarus or knowing that it would kill him, but if neither of those happened, perhaps it meant that Grogar would return but Celestia knew the new Elements could handle him.  I'm not sure she would have gone to that much trouble to bail out Luna, but now we will never see the possibility of Grogar being a villain since it was just Discord in disguise all along.


The tree of harmony thinked that discord would have been to harsh for their first mision so it send nightmare moon first and then figure out if the mane six were prepared for anithing


I believe it was Sunset Shimmer that started it all. We don’t actually know how long a “moon” is (unless I missed it). Her defying Celestia instigated the stars to align to release Nightmare Moon. Being banished thru the portal, and only having it open for 3 days every 30 moons pushed celestia to send Twilight to ponyville to “make some friends”.


Ok so I’ve watched this series for a while and I HAVE A BONE TO PICK!!

Not in a bad way, I love these vids... they keep me in a mentality somewhere between a child and an adult...

Maybe it’s been adressed and I’ve just never seen it, but you disproved the fact of there ever being an “alicorn civilization” now, I’m not very up to speed with the show (life happens) but I’m still confused of where the sisters go when they’re retired
I think, unless it was directly proven false and I missed it (which is a huge possibility) but is there an alicorn civilization or not? Where do they go? Do they poof?
Just wondering


Maybe Luna has a student of her own who is controlling the stars!


Nightmare moon used her magic to release her out,and she rule star & moon


I believe it's either Celestia's mother or father that did it, it's plausible but we've never seen them nor do we know if they had any power of celestial objects, I had thought Starswirl could have but he was in Limbo fighting and containing the Pony of Shadows(aka Stygian) and besides he was never claimed to control celestial objects and I doubt he'd be powerful enough to do so.


Well, the sun is a star, so in theory Celestia can control them, but the stars are so far away that it wouldn't make sense to move them, and the stars surround the galaxy so if you move them they'd still be by day, but, because of sunlight they don't see them. In the episode of Rockhoof Twi explains that the stars move slowly as they do not have the same location as when he lived with the pillars, so we can assume that they're moves alone or that someone moves them little by little every time. I believe that when the elements of harmony locked Luna up, they put a lock on the stars so that one day she could be released, the years passed and when the tree saw Twi and her friends and the connection between them, he sent signals to Celestia to release Luna. It's my personal theory.


I really like the idea that Celestia released Nightmare Moon, but not as a test for Twilight, but because she wanted to get her sister back.

And I don't think the Signs had anything to do with the Stars, but that Twilight was ready to rediscover the Elements and purity Luna. The Stars were just the method by which Nightmare Moon was released.

We know that together Celestia and Luna could use the Elements to defeat Discord, but Celestia couldn't use them to purify Luna, so all Celestia could do was banish her to the moon. I believe that the Elements left Celestia right after she banished Nightmare Moon to the moon. So she had to wait until the next bearer would come along, which she knew because of the Cutie Mark on the Tree of Harmony. So when she saw Twilight's cutie mark after the Sonic Rainboom she knew that she was the one who would be able to save Luna. So to me it makes sense that she would be willing to release Nightmare Moon, she just wanted to set right her mistake in letting Luna become Nightmare Moon and being unable to help her. What would actually be amusing would be after Celestia banished Nightmare Moon to the moon, she would have gone to the Tree of Harmony and asked it to bring her sister back, only for the Tree of Harmony to tell her how it would play out, then Celestia wrote the prophesy in the book that Twilight would eventually read.


This last three videos have been about luna and/or celestia,<br>But what if there would come a time the first male alicorn appears?

This last three videos have been about luna and/or celestia,
But what if there would come a time the first male alicorn appears?


If most of the alicorns (I don't know if Twilight from the human world counts) can turn evil, does that mean Cadence and Flurry heart can turn evil too?


Twilight moved the stars! I think this because her cutiemark is the sign! The middle star represents the moon and the other four represent the aligned stars!!


What about the possibility of there being another sibling to Celestia and Luna that is in charge of the stars? Could the Tree of Harmony originally be this sibling that was turned into the tree?

I'm just throwing random ideas out there...


Technically Celestial does have control over stars because the sun is a star.🤩🔆💛🌠🎇🌅🌄🎖


Maybe the tree told Celestia to send twilight to ponyville?I'm still confused on who moved the stars but that's up for studying 😊#BroHoof


How can lauren faust  be wrong about the lore of her own show


Ok, I love your videos, but I have a theory that contradicts what you said.
1. The Race: You said that the things that brought the mane six together was the tree right? What really brought them together was... Drumroll please... Rainbow Dashes SONIC RAINBOOM! Think about it. It wasn't exactly on purpose, but without it, well, you know what happens. Equestria falls into immediate doom! You can't change history without leaving a mark on it, right?   It was the RACE! The Sonic Rainboom, the first one ever preformed, started the whole manifesto. It caused the Mane Six to be brought together.

I have something that also debunks your theory (sorry).
The tree didn't set up the challenges in the first episode. That was all nightmare moon. The keys just HAPPENED due to the special journeys on the FRIENDSHIP MAP. The friendship map is the one to blame for some of the keys. Other keys, (like Fluttershys and Rainbow Dashes) were just destiny!  I'll give you the last one. That was the creepy trees fault.

Sorry for debunking your theory, but someone had to say something.
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                                                                     ( p.s, My sister, cousins, and I love your videos!)


Twili-corn was to Faust's design. There is a sketchbook drawing of fully ascended Twilight from when the show being made. THAT SAID...

Okay, some gluing together clues from 3 other sources. One of whom's canonicity is questionable. First is the episode where the CMC ask Twilight about how she got her Cutie Mark. Second is the episode where Celestia tells Twilight what is like to let a student go their own way... The third... Is MLP's 20/20 issue from IDW.  Which is what people may question in the canon but follow me here and you can see some mind threads I make that fit it in. Especially since IDW is moving forward with future seasonal content. It all starts with Rule 1 of Doctor Who: The Doctor Lies.  Adapt that to Celestia... Celestia Lies. She is an ancient being that knows well the consequences of messing with time and space and disclosing and acting what one may know. Also how messing with time can mess with a lot of things (as Celestia hints at in the mini-episodes explaining Equestria's magic)

The first thing I want to bring up is Twilight's remembrance of the day she got her cutie mark. Just want you to think of the event and know... it is a lie. The details of what happened did not happen the way she thinks they did. We go to IDW's 20/20 issue. Twilight and friends still have the elements and they are showing off in front of a delegation from the feline kingdom and Celestia. A display of pony ability. During this storm rolls and a bit worried about it, Dash decides to show off her speed and blast the storm with a Sonic Rainboom. When she does, magic arcs from her to all the rest of the girls though the elements and they vanish. They show up years earlier on the day of the first Rainboom, next to their child selves...

There is hijinx and such that goes around but the most important thing is Twilight. That scene has some modifications to what happened. Spike's egg didn't hatch at all, Celestia was in the room and not outside, and other minor things like Twi's parents in the audience and the judges upfront. Rainboom happens, Young Twi casts the hatching spell... and it instead YANKS Princess Twilight to her to everyone's shock. Once things are settled Princess Twi goes to explain to Celestia, who is shocked at seeing another Alicorn Princess, but Celestia cuts her off and explains to her that she must not say what is going on. The weave of time is in danger right now and no one wants to cause a paradox.

Talking a bit, Princess Twi tells Celestia that she needs to find her Element of Harmony, it is missing from her crown. She also says that all things seem to start in Ponyville for some reason and she must head there. Celestia has Princess Twi (PT) take the excited Young Twi (YT) to Ponyville,  YT just floored that she becomes a princess someday. Celestia says she'll catch up and help when she can, first she has to modify the memories of everyone here for safety. PT and YT head to Ponyville and through an adventure there, the older girls introduce the younger girls to each other and get the elements. PT goes to open the rift back home just as Celestia shows up and Celestia relays that she took care of the witnesses back at the castle, they will never know PT was there. PT asks about the people of Ponyville and the young mane 6 to which Celestia says something like, "I must modify the memories here too. Even your younger selves. But don't worry.  The ones I put on you 6 will degrade and you will remember the truth sometime in the future." and the mane 6 head back to their present. End of comic

Now to guess what happens next.  Celestia goes through with her powerful magic and puts things back as they all "Remember" But in this case... Celestia knows things. She knows that Twilight will become an Alicorn. Twilight will need her friends. All things seem to start in Ponyville... and most importantly above all... Twilight and the girls have the elements of Harmony and are bonded to them. From that Celestia can extract events from there that she doesn't know for sure but can be fairly certain of. Which brings us to Celestia's memory of letting Twilight go and sending her to Ponyville. She knows that all things start there. That it has to happen to keep a paradox from happening. But she grew so attached to this talented filly that she didn't want to send Twilight away. Celestia puzzles out possibilities, using all her resources at her command to try some way to keep this from going the way she fears because she doesn't actually know the details of what happens just that it has to happen. But the day comes, She looks to the moon that she moves each night that is her sister's prison and knows the time is coming soon.  She knows that Twilight MUST make friends with these other 5 mares and bond the elements and part of that she assumes her sister's release is linked to it... and so... well the rest is history.

Celestia kept close tabs on her student. She moved the moon into the position it needed to be in the stars to free Luna, then she stood back and let the events she feared so much happen with bated breath. Most likely up from Celes, where she can observe from a safe place. (its the name of where Twilight goes when she becomes an Alicorn).  And thus... that's my thoughts. But hey. It's just a hypothesis... A PONY HYPOTHESIS.


I think Luna made herself free I mean she controls the night so what if she planed it herself but had to wait for the right time or to gain enough power to bail out?


I think Celestia used a Spell when she banished her and in the Spell after a thousand year she set up the Spell to have her released. I believe that Celestia wouldn't be able to banish her sister forever so she found a spell that would release Luna after a Thousand years. Kinda like putting Luna in a time out not sending her away forever. I believe that the one Spell that she cast the night of Luna's banishment  brought Luna back and moved the stars. So no I don't believe Celestia herself moved the stars but the Spell she cast to bring her sister back did.  Though I do like your theory.


What if Nightmare moon/Luna moves the stars? If she did it that late she probably just discovered that she could move the stars, or she didn’t think of it until that time.


we can't rule out the fact that the sun and moon are closer then every other star so there still is that factor, and anyone with enough magical power can control the sun and the moon, look at the ponies of Equestria's old, look at the unicorns of Equestria's old


Luna's cutie mark have the moon and stars. Maybe while she was on the moon she regain her strength and control 4 stars to help her?


Well it's obviously true! It's all her fault this shit happened in the first place.... Celestia clearly don't know all the values and priorities in life.


Brony Notion!! You rock and are such an  inspiration for my own theories! I am a big fan!


The question that bothers me is: Did Lauren Faust thought about this solution when she was making season1 or later? Did she thought that she didn't need a reason, because at this point of the season 1 premiere she didn't realized how many fans this show will get and that most of the fans are teenagers or adults who think more deeply? If so, did she tried to make a solution? She would've to make a theory about her own show with the hints she gaved with no second thought.Maybe Celestia was an idea for an solution, but she didn't made an official soluton, because she didn't know about the bronies to come. Her solution makes sense, but other theories, like yours with Grogar, makes sense too. Of course she is the creator of this wonderful show and what she says is canon. But if you think about my point that I'm trying to make here, it's really up to everyone to decide for themselves, because we can't be sure that her solution fits the best out of all other theories. In the end I'm open to all theories of this mystery. What Lauren Faust states is canon, but if she came up with this solution much later and other theories fit better than Lauren Fausts solution, than it wouldn't be wrong to accept another theory. Also what if the show makers gave us other hints for this mystery throughout the show even after Lauren Faust has left and the other theories were made out of this additional hints? Isn't something canon that happened in the show? If they were any more hints to this mystery, than Lauren Fausts solution may not be canon anymore. It's two sites of what is canon or not.


I know this is unrelated to the vid, but I just wanna say I miss the series so much🥺😭❤🧡 I’ve been watching since season 1 when I was just 6 now I’m 15 and I still love the series so much🧡❤🧡❤🧡I used to skip the theme song every time I watch the episodes and now I regret it cuz now it has ended I just realised how much I loved the series and the songs too😍🤩and I don’t care how people keep saying I’m childish for watching MLP and I don’t care if they are going to make fun of me😤


It's just a teory, And I don't have any evidence to proove what I'm about to say but, still. What about starswirl? I mean, we know he is the "Twilight" of his Group,  who Just happened to Plant the three. We know he has really powerful Magic,  since he kept discord's plants still with the princesses, And we haven't seen yet his back. Also he wasn't young even thousends of years ago...maybe starswirl isn't a unicorn, maybe He is...An alicorn! We know that alicorn can infuse their power to other alicorns, right? And we know that Celestia, And consequentially Luna, weren't always reigning Equestria, or it's equivalent before unicorns, heart pony and pegasi allied. Why? Because when Twilight students put on the act on Celestia, they said that before they needed 5 powerful unicorns to raise the sun, and this action would have drained all of their Magic.  But then Celestia came. But...from where? And she was alredy an alicorn? We don't know the answer to either of this question, but I like to think that she was alredy a alicorn, but she wasn't the only One.  With the 5 ponys, there was, guess who? Starswirl. But, the sunrise didn't took his Magic... maybe because he wasn't Just a unicorn, but here wasn't even a pure alicorn like Celestia,  he weren't ment to be an alicorn. We know that alicorn usually  don't born alredy with all the trhee magics,  as we can see by the reaction to flurry heart born... But the two Sister must have someone Who gave them the magic they needed to be alicorns... maybe starswirl! But he's still an alicorn, so Just like twilight he had more power then an average pony, but not enough to rule equestria, control sun and moon etcetera. What if the magic he kept was the one to rule the stars? Just, think about it...his name is STARswirl, And The two sisters name too remind their Role  (for an example in my language, "luna" means "moon" and "cielo" means "sky"). But When he had to go to the limbo he left this power to Celestia, And this cause Luna's Anger,  this was the limit, even he's Teacher prefered her Sister!  But as we know, starswirl invented the first time travel speech , so he has enough power to time travel. He must have learnt Starlight version of his spell and went Tell something important to Celestia, who then proceded to free nightmare moon and so cause pretty much all the series. If You have to discuss on this theory please do it politely, so we can enjoy this speculations.  Also sorry if I made mistake, as you could see English isn't my mother language, so if You can politely Point my mistakes so i can improve I would be so grate.  Thanks for reading


I agree on Celestia not controlling the stars.  Even though the Sun is technically a star, it's WAY closer than the other stars, the closest of which is 4 LIGHT YEARS away.  That's just too far for a simple spell if you ask me.  During the episode where Rockhoof finds his place in Equestria, Twilight mentions that the stars very gradually drift in the night sky, which is exactly what they do in reference to Earth.  If Celestia were moving them, there's no reason to suspect that Twilight wouldn't know that.<br>Luna is a powerful alicorn.  She'd surely be able to break the spell eventually, even with the elements enhancing it.  I don't think she'd necessarily need someone else to break her out.

I agree on Celestia not controlling the stars.  Even though the Sun is technically a star, it's WAY closer than the other stars, the closest of which is 4 LIGHT YEARS away.  That's just too far for a simple spell if you ask me.  During the episode where Rockhoof finds his place in Equestria, Twilight mentions that the stars very gradually drift in the night sky, which is exactly what they do in reference to Earth.  If Celestia were moving them, there's no reason to suspect that Twilight wouldn't know that.
Luna is a powerful alicorn.  She'd surely be able to break the spell eventually, even with the elements enhancing it.  I don't think she'd necessarily need someone else to break her out.


I don't think there were stars who freed Nightmare Moon/Luna. I believe that something that nobody and nopony knew before did that thing, and it's a hidden force, maybe. About Celestia, I see her as a very good manipulator and, Luna is the same. There is something that the show is hiding, but I don't know what and, I think that something is missing. I would like to see the deeper side of the characters more and, I don't believe the show ended with just nine seasons. And, who is the Spirit of Tree of Hormony?


Look at it this way:Celestia controls thr sun and has a sun cutie mark
Luna controls the moon and has a moon cutie mark

Twilight has a Star Cutie mark, so does that mean she controls the stars?


My original thought was that discord knew that luna would become nightmare moon and set a spell to release her in 1000 years. it could have been as close to then as he could go or he was planning something for the ponies


Here is a theory. Luna needed to turn into Nightmare Moon. Because in the future as we know she can travel through dreams. But what about nightmares? Nightmares are also part of the dream realm. So Luna did not mean to turn into Nightmare Moon. Destiny wanted to,


i think who moved the stars was starfrost helping to set the stay


In the video unlocking grogar's true past grogar must have been a uniquely  patterned and a bright big star he might have released Nightmare Moon and himself too

Grogar might have a unique connection between moon and stars .Have you noticed that 4 stars are quite different from others it might be grogar .......


Celestia didnt release her because twilight. Remember when Starlight erased the Rainboom and twi went back and forth between alternate demensions? Well one of them was a demension where Night mare Moon ruled so even with twilight out of the picture she still released her


Hi, can you talk about how celestia raised the moon when she only has the power to raise the sun? And why are the elements of harmony in the old sisters castle? Why was it old and abandoned?


I think this theory is stupid but what if Starlight Glimmer was rileded to Celectia and Luna in a way 🤔


What if discord did it .just think about it he makes chaos so maybe he didn't know about the main six so he made the stars release her


also I think it’s kind of funny that this video came out shortly after I left a comment on one of your older videos talking about the same subject and I had mention that Lauren first talked about it on her Twitter


I think that celestial shouldn’t be considered a hypocrite  because even if she couldn’t see the future she knew luna and wanted to free her. If it was a gamble celestial would have to take her chances in order to get luna back.


I do hope you read this.

I know ''Lullaby For A Princess'' is by the show, not considered cannon. But if we saw that it is, could that maybe mean that when Celestia sent Nightmare Moon to the moon, she only wanted to see her sister again, no matter what (Of which could also be seen in the show) and so the elements obeyed, but as Celestia had failed Luna, she could not redeem Nightmare Moon, but the Elements Of Harmony in some ways knew, that Twilight and her friends would get them and then redeem Luna, but only telling Celestia it would be a 1000 years till Nightmare Moon would escape and how, giving Celestia good time to make a plan.

If it wasn't for Luna's jealousy and Starswirl to go missing, one of the few in Equestria I suspect treated Celestia and Luna as equals.

So if Luna never was sent to the moon and the Sonic Rainboom never happened, Twilight and her friends would never have met, and we see in the other realities, Equestria would have been doomed to be out of harmony, FOREVER!!

Let me know if you agree with me and Brony Notion, I hope this give you a new perspective... And maybe a new theory. ;-)


wait so if the show has ended what has happened in the human universe?


I bet she was like: Ok my sister has been in moon time out for a few years now.. Maybe I should let her out.. Like twilight will save her so like.. Yea no chance of someone dying.. <b>cough applejack nearly fell off a cliff cough</b>

I bet she was like: Ok my sister has been in moon time out for a few years now.. Maybe I should let her out.. Like twilight will save her so like.. Yea no chance of someone dying.. *cough applejack nearly fell off a cliff cough*


Twilight when she got startled by the rain boom she might of made the stars move a few years later and who raises the sun and moon now Twilight sparkle


I always thought that blue smoke was Nightmare Moon


I have a theory for you too solve! Is it possible for luna/celestia too not be triggered by jealousy and turn too their villain counterparts? If so how?


Maybe the tree of harmony control's the stars


Maybe it is Cosmos who has unlished Nightmare Moon... 🤔


Clestia did raise the luna after Luna went to the moon so she can control the stars but what if the ponies with night related cutie Mark or power ful magic could free them maybe trixie she said she is great and power ful nd she doesn't really prove it what if she did that to show ponies she is power ful maybe she got hold of the alicorn amulet or get another artifact that is power full and did it or had a ponies help her and she probly realised her mistake couldn't fix it like she says she power but can't reverse it

Sorry I wrote alot it could be other ponies but that is my theory


Hey Brony Notion you when Lauren Faust said “who controls the sun moon and stars think of season nine who takes over celestia and Lunas place Twilight sparkle! And if you look on her cutie mark there’s Stars!!! She controls the sun moon and stars <br>Rip Grogar theories

Hey Brony Notion you when Lauren Faust said “who controls the sun moon and stars think of season nine who takes over celestia and Lunas place Twilight sparkle! And if you look on her cutie mark there’s Stars!!! She controls the sun moon and stars
Rip Grogar theories


Celestia stole my oc the star alicorn and used her to move the stars. 😋


it  can be  twilight because  in her  cutiemark  it has four  star  os it can be


Maybe I can help, here is a clue who else can controls the stars. Twillight is a (Star) alicorn, (Star) alicorns are made when a (Star) pony became a alicorn. Like dream ponies, (Star) ponies are powerful and don't need a horn to have magic, but they don't travel to dreams.


I think it was Starlight who freed nightmare moon


what if it was Starswirl? think about it.... Starswirl was the pony who invented alicorns, right? yes. and Celestia and Luna were the very first alicorns in Equestria, right? yes! so in addition Starswirl gave them all the powers of the ponies, alicorn wings, flowing hair and immortality it could be a possibility that he gave them the power to send someone away but with count down. yeah his name is STARswirl and it sounds predictable but think about it. IF Luna would send Celestia to the moon (or sun for that matter) it would be that the stars will still help Celestia out, same with Luna... Luna is sent away and then the stars help her out... Starswirl knew that IF one of the sisters were in danger, the stars would still help them out in ANY situation... trapped in a cage or lost in a forrest. the stars will guide them out or help them find FREEDOM because he knows that Equestria need more than one leader.... that is why the main six are in charge for the safety in Equestria... because it is more than ONE! hope u see this and I love your videos :)


i have an idea for another theory! or another question- why do the dazzlings turn to humans but they look like dragons? and spike turns into a dog- why wouldn’t they turn into dogs?


Wait twilight has a star in her cutie mark and she’s now the ruler of equestria controlling the sun and the moon so she could control the stars at the start of the first episode she have learned at clelestia school


Uhh - the only person that comes into my mind is star swirl, because he’s a powerful unicorn and he and other unicorns controlled the sun, and I know  he couldn’t be the one who controls the starts because he was in this "prison" ( I forgot the name of it) . Unless ... 😂😂


um... isnt the sun a star, she wouldnt have to control all stars, just a few , the sun and the 4 stars to set her sister free, she more powerful then we can understand in my statement


Should u rewatch the first episode of the first season because in one of the season it show that  princess twilight  had to go back the the past so it could be  princess Celestia because it show he using the elements of Harmony


That’s not true because Celestia can control the sun and the sun is a star 💫


What about the first gala, and Celestia nephew that was presents that rarity was talking about , but he’s not an alicorn, so that does not add up.


Maybe not who controls but what triggers the stars?
Me: the sonic rainboom that gave the mane six their cutie marks.
Maybe.
Other guess is a pony that can have access to both day and night but that a long shot. ✌


I feel like it's disrespectful to not belive that it is CANON if she said that it is then its CANON an we cannot said or do anything about her version of the story


It was twilight she did it on accèdent not knowing it was her


It was Starswirl because he has star in his name


Mabye star swirl before disappearing with the other pillars controlled the stars and after disappearing they just stayed there and the sun overpowers them like in our world

Idk


What about the great seedling what could it be?


Mby some new villain who is hiding all these 9 seasons🤔


prinses luna  controls the night and the moon and the stars to!   so princes luna  got control on the stars maybe  she escaped from her self? but waited for thousand years?   that what I think

maybe she was to weak to come back idk ?


Personally i believe the being to be scorpan


The sun is ctrl celestia moon by luna stars by discord


I think twilight controls the stars I don't know why


wait for stars so mabe the tree-like mind controls the pristine to make her move the stars to the right but as user mind controls she can see everything that she was doing while controls then she unwilling gave her self to nightmare moon then the tree can mind-controlled someone but if you say NO ONE CAN GET MIND CONTROL to look at foldeshy frand

I know my spellings are bad I am only in grade school but I think it a good theory
like if agreed


I think celestia little sister trys to get out of the moon that celestia trap her in the sky..but or maybe....maybe that she knew that celestia was gonna trap her in the moon so she tells all of the villain to rescue her from the moon and then she might says to them she will give them something very expensive to them for a return...idk thats the only thing that i remembered in my mind


Ehem, If I may... THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CONTROLES THE STARS!!! WHO DOESE TWILIGHT LOOK UP TO OTHER THEN THE PRINCESSES??? (STARSWEARL THE BEARDED) Its either that or Twilight herself but I don't think she's that strong yet. <YET


Im kinda thinking it was twiligth but she was just a unicorn, but i kinda support that theory bc the stars on her cutie Mark, maybe she lifted the curse when that magical explosion happened when she was a filly? Tell me, what do you think of this theory?


Well i think its  Celestia  she properly wants  luna back or she lost control of the stars or something


Who planted the tree, who's name has star in it