The Case of Michael Drejka

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"I'm just trying to understand how to get you the maximum sentence possible"

@White Fox as they should

@Shnood I would love to hear what they are really thinking while they are talking to the suspects.

@White Fox that's kinda what this channel is. inside the mind of an interrogator

If they bother to bring you in at all they've probably got your azz nailed and are only tryin to provide context for the DA to further leverage against you.

Just like the ol' "It's not you..." when you breaking up w somebody.

@Portalmaster GC Not exactly, it explains their methods of interrogation, but we still can't know what were their personal thoughts.

Once they read your rights, stop talking and get a lawyer. Cooperate with where they want you to go, but don't answer anything.

just one of their many tactics

@White Fox most likely thinking about how to worsen the person there sitting across’s life as much as humanly possible

@Poker Joker Learnt and Learned, both are correct, smh.

@Rod Evans Most of the english speaking world uses learnt US and Canada uses learned

@William Knight the fact is, he was so happy to have murdered a guy that he needed to brag about it with the interrogators. And that's exactly how you tell a ruthless killer from a person who just temporarily snapped and made a stupid decision.

@Rod Evans mate you clearly live in a cave, "learnt" is indeed a valid word to be used instead of "learned"

@Rod Evans you and  @Poker Joker  need to chill... both words are correct lmao

Learnt 🤣

Never consent to police interrogation. Wait for your lawyer. You have your day in court. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Wrong lesson. The lesson you should have learned is "don't talk to cops" not "now I have a better understanding of what cops are saying when they talk to me"

My ex used to do that. It was annoying AF.

@Portalmaster GC not really. The narrator has the power of hindsight.

Facts

IKR

@V -yrz The guy carries a gun with him when he's doing errands around his neighbourhood. He's lived his whole life waiting for his moment to "justify" murdering someone. How quickly he pulled out the "21 foot rule" implies he was hoping someone would act threateningly within 21 feet of him at some point in his life. This was like hitting the jackpot for this guy.

I’m just trying to understand, “you didn’t say anything to him?” He must have asked him that 6 times. He dug himself deeper every time he said no.

Like when a women says " i just want to know what happen... majority of the time she already knows, she just wants to see if your going to lie to her face

Except all the times they obviously didn't understand

I've learned that if a cop is being nice to you, you're already fucked. Just shut up and ask for a lawyer.

I think he parked there temporarily because he actually wanted her parking space.

@Max 404 oooooh.... that makes it all better then.

@Patrick Baklava It does.

exactly what the judge said. I dont think he was even going into the store. I am certain he just drives by just to check if someone was there just to go start sh*t.

@Patrick Baklava I did not say that.

@Max 404 He didn't need the handicap spot. Even if he did, the open parking spaces in front of the store are much closer than the handicap spots anyway. And if he thinks they're violating the law then he should call the cops. Parking illegally then approaching their car is the wrong thing to do, even if they were illegally parked in the handicap spot

@S He retired in his 30s. Maybe he had the right to use that handicap spot.
I am just saying, i think he wanted the spot.

This is a perfect example of mind your own business on the shooters side, and fuck around and find out on the victims side. They were both wrong. Had the victim not immediately resorted to physical assault (what if the guy was just asking directions, and just because he’s talking to your old lady you assault him) then he could have likely avoided being shit. And if the shooter had not made it his business to enforce parking at a fucking gas station the whole situation could have been avoided.

@Shotty except that somebody went in and announced that there was a loud altercation outside between a man and a woman.

@Melinda Mahoney we don't know details of the level of confrontation between the shooter and the lady. Either the victim assumed that the guy is threatening his wife or he could hear some threat from inside the shop... else why did he come and push that guy to the ground without even talking to the guy! I wish ppl just remain calm during any argument... anger blinds the mind... unnecessary loss of life when it could have ended with just a simple argument. This is the bad aspect of owning firearms...anger + easy access to a weapon is a dangerous combination

Exactly. This is just male Karen levels 🙄

Pp

Hypocrisy more than irony 😂

@Max 404 there's a difference between retirement and simply not working anymore. And even if that's true there's not a single argument that could be used to justify his actions. None.

@Dj Pierce Well, that's what JCS said. A lot of arguments have been made in the court case. The case is not as clear as day.

@Shotty If good people mind their own business, bad people win.
But one has to be cautious, when confronting bad or stupid people.
Sometimes two idiots meet and things go downhill fast.

These type of people have a superior complex. They believe that they are better than others and have a right to tell people what they believe is right.

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So going back if the other person just push him that hard to the ground injury this one iam guessing we won't be here watching and writing about this.... than probably it's how always should be treated throwing someone to the ground that hard( like imagine when you get involved in something like that). The handicapped place is there not for selfish or lazy people use them. Perchance. Most certain he don't like black people and shouldn't NEVER shoot to kill....

@christian Michael Drejka started a commotion and ended up in jail.His behaviour was foolish.Now he has lost his freedom and is in a world of regret for his unneccessary,unwanted actions.

@Max 404 it’s not his job to enforce who uses the parking spot at the gas station bro, what are you on about

@Stonk Nooby Anyone can argue with anyone. It's not a crime.

@Max 404 in the vid you can hear him describing the altercation and saying when the women in the car asked ïs it any of your business" the shooter responded acording to him with "no but if my handicapped mother would have droven up it would be" so im going to assume he was not planning to stand there himself

@TerribleZebra Yes, that became clear during the trial.

@Shotty Drejka wasn't "talking" to her, he was yelling and swearing at her, to the point where other customers, both coming OUT of the store and going in ALL stopped to watch and listen (they testified to this at the trial). If he had been speaking in a calm, polite manner I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have paid the least bit of attention. And he didn't need to touch the car. He had her trapped by standing blocking the door and he was speaking in a threatening manner which is part of the reason why he was convicted, because he instigated the entire incident. He is NOT the parking lot police. It's not his property so he had no right to walk over and say ANYTHING. In doing so he became the aggressor.

@lavya p Several witnesses testified at trial that Drejka was very loud and threatening. 2 of them immediately told the store owner and who they (correctly) assumed to be the woman's husband, Marquis, what was happening outside. If Drejka was a friendly man commenting on what a nice day it was or something then he wouldn't have been shoved to the ground.

@Max 404 I 🤔🤔

@Max 404 We all get to choose what battles are worth fighting for, and in this case, he should've erred on the side of caution & safety. It was only a matter of time before this wannabe cop made a bad decision. He will learn all about fear & pain. He claims that he's never been in a fight, good luck with that in prison.

Completely agree 🤜🏼

Why can’t they post?

@Kaylee Ayres notice the only videos up. It's YouTube being racial

@Adam 😂🤡

@Adam what?

@Blissey why are you upset I noticed a pattern?

@Adam not upset I'm just saying of youtube had a problem with it than why is it up on other channels

What happened?

It’s not necessarily YT. According to a Reddit thread, JCS started pulling videos off their own Patreon over a year ago saying the hosting fees were too high. Meanwhile according to the Reddit posters, hosting fees were only a few hundred dollars and they had 40k subscribers each paying at least 1 USD a month. You do the math. Allegedly when people called them out on it they deleted messages and blocked users. This all seems very odd.

@Charlie Brown
He took all that patreon money and ran, it's blatantly obvious.
Youtube isn't "giving him problems", he's just done with the channel but won't admit it.

Views started reaching like 80 million and he just bounced.

@Charlie Brown what are hosting fees? It’s seems just as stupid as the idiots being interrogated in these videos because for someone who can make a very good living off of literally narrating an already made video(interrogation) which doesn’t seem like it would be incredibly time consuming and back breaking to just decide to stop when clearly the potential for an outstanding amount of money to be made seeing as some of these videos are viewed in the tens of millions!!

@Melissa Coulter Hosting fees are what you pay to Patreon to keep your content on their platform. JCS isn’t just one person, it’s a group of people and the ex Patreon members seem to think they got greedy and couldn’t agree on how to split the money fairly, so they are at an impasse when it comes to continuing with their content.

The narrator is just the narrator. Jcs was a team not a person lmao….

@Vito Torpedo I don’t blame him though, he owes us nothing and the content he has is good enough

@Scott Baker
Oh I know.
I'm just pointing out that the "youtube bad" excuse given has basically been proven to be a load of shit.

@SquidPW check their community tab posts

They just announced they're done, unfortunately 😔. Youtube has demonizing every video isn't to their benefit 😕

are their any other channels like this? I just got into true crime and all that

@christian this is monsters

@christian matt orchard 10000% look him up, best JCS like by far. Offers so much more than many of the copycats.

ME TOO.....I would seriously cheer if JCS returned

@christian yup, many more videos of his on the “J C S” channel, and even on here but they’re unlisted, just type in this yt channels name and you’ll find playlists full of more videos than the one shown on this channel

@christian I just recently found a channel "explore with us". It reminds me of this channel I think it's pretty good. You may or may not like it but worth checking out and of course there's "That Chapter" as well. Hope this helps you find something you enjoy

thank you everyone who recommended I'll check them all out. I'll be working an overnight shift next week while our usual overnight person goes on vacation. this will really help. really appreciate it!

@Kathleen J Yes I recently found Explore With Us and it is really great

@Kirk B T Yes his other channel is Kizzume

@christian I am totally hooked on @swordandscale

Drejka did the right thing, he was attacked, end of story.

@Lee Davies I don't know if he did the right thing, however, I believe under US law he should have been dismissed. I have seen far more unprovoked cases beat the wrap.

Mr Ballen. He's not JCS like but he has great stories.

Its wack because some of the stuff some of these channels get to post and keep on and dont get in trouble is crazy

@Kainan Hupp what do u mean? Why got in trouble?

the "JCS inspired" channels are blooming, and they are JUST as good : )

@christian “Stranger stories” is another channel to check out 👌🏻

Yes

@christian Red Tree Crime is pretty good imo

Is there any way to watch the videos that have been removed from YouTube, or are they just lost to the ether?

@Jarthen Greenmeadow mr ballen is super addicting, ive watched all his videos already in one months time, hes amazing.

That is one thing we can all agree on. They were the BEST.

I wouldn't say he's trying to seem "smart". He's trying to sound like law enforcement or military and I'm sure you know what people say about "Military Intelligence" (it's an oxymoron). Basically he's trying to talk like a cop/military to build rapport.

I don't know if the guy ever served in the military but that's just how we talk over a radio for the purpose of clarity. Yes and no are both single syllable meaning a split second of RFI can prevent clear reception - so we use "Affirmative" and "Negative" instead. Over static it's easier to tell the difference.

Same reason we use a phonetic alphabet over the radio because the letters "A", "J", "K" all rhyme; letters "B", "C", "D", "E", "G", "P", "T", "V" and "Z" all rhyme and can be mistaken. Instead we use Alpha Charlie Delta Echo Golf Papa - each one sounds distinctly different and that matters when lives are at stake.

Call in the wrong grid coordinates to DIVARTY and you might hit the wrong sector & take out an entire platoon of Rangers. I literally heard exactly that... ALMOST happen one year while on a CAX at 29 Palms. We were in the middle of nowhere; hot as hell; bored as fuck and guarding something I couldn't even see for HOURS. Just making sure nobody passed us on that road and didn't even know why. Our only entertainment was the FM radio so when I heard these excited calls coming over the radio my ears perked up; I sat up in my seat.

@liquidbraino that’s really interesting and I did not know the latter part of that.

@Michael his choice of intervention was to assault him without warning. Mike is a scumbag for his reaction but it was a reaction. Always use your words first if nothing else but to have the excuse of “well I tried to talk it out with him first”

frfr

@811chelseafc if someone is verbally assaulting my family I'm going to assault them with proper force and he's not just "a scumbag",he's a convicted murderer... As a grown man I've come to realize no one makes you have any reaction, your in control of that.

@Bossman Biden if you don’t see how that behavior can so easily lead to escalation I can’t help you.

@811chelseafc don't need your help chelse...

@Bossman Biden my thing is this. If someone is verbally assaulting your family, they’re clearly unhinged. Why would you then escalate. You say no one is responsible for their reactions but themselves. Turning a verbal confrontation into a physical one is escalation at its finest.

@Bossman Biden I'm in control of my actions that's why I will escalate an incident with someone who could be capable of anything"

Also "proper force", lmao the internet matcho man.

@liquidbraino If the point is temporal clarity, wouldn't it be better to not use two words that both end in -ive? lol. If you catch the tail end of affirmative or negative they sound the same. It strikes me that "yes yes" and "no no" might be better for that task

@Jek True. But you probably already know what they say about "military intelligence" (it's an oxymoron). Probably still better than saying "Yeah" and "Nah" because both are one single syllable. Personally if I'm listening to a call go out over the radio and all I heard was the last syllable the next thing I'm going to say over the radio is "10-9" or "Say again, you're coming in 10-1; no copy". If I heard them clearly I'm still going to confirm "10-4, I copy that's a NEGATIVE". Just to be clear - IF it's about something super important... like coffee.

He’s a wannabe police officer. When the judge gave reason for his 20 year sentence not the home probation the defense attorneys were requesting was so on point.

@Michael And by intervene you mean physically push someone and escalate the situation? How did that turn out for Markeis? Jacobs was not in any immediate danger and was inside her car. Markeis could have simply walked into the car and both could have driven off without incident. Unfortunately, Markeis pushed a hot headed individual who took SYG literally, got shot and died. Although I'm not blaming Markeis or Jacobs for what occurred, all could have been avoided if they would have parked in a different spot as well.

@Bossman Biden someone is arguing with your wife and you immediately spring to violence? Well, that would make you a criminal. That’s assault, and regardless how blameless you want to make the victims actions, assaulting a man who’s having words with your wife is the behaviour of a thug, it’s not reasonable. This isn’t to say the victim deserved to die, but it could have been completely avoided if he didn’t immediately spring to assault.
Nobody here seriously believes that was a reasonable reaction, but they are pretending it is, so that they can maintain the victim/oppressor narrative.

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@ Michael so true

@Michael to be fair, intervening is not just quickly closing the distance and assaulting. Regardless of the law, dude would still be alive had he kept his hands to himself

Nothing to do with him trying to sound smart. He's trying to use cop/military talk, which negative falls into.

@Michael if a stranger is arguing with your wife over a parking space, has not threatened physical harm or acted upon it in any way (court documents and evidence show this was the case here, even in Jacobs' own testimony), you DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSAULT THEM. Had McGlockton not been killed, he would have had assault charges at the very least. You have the right to verbally intervene with the man, but you cannot approach and attack him out of nowhere.

@Bossman Biden bruh you can’t even spell, why should anyone listen to what you have to say. Not to mention your username.

I think he’s more trying to sound/feel like he’s one of them, talk in the cop talk he’s heard on TV, give himself this air of professionalism, he was just doing his job, defending his gas station. And I think he wants very badly to feel like a cop

How saying "negative" instead of "no" makes someone sounds smart?

@Sofian because he's trying to sound like a buddy to the cops. He also uses military lingo when he has never served. It's almost like he learned about those words that day and was going to use them to the fullest extent. Soooo negative sir, it's affirmative this guy is peepee poopoo

Unless you're a cop, then do it to anyone everyday.

@keegan johnson yea I wonder how you survived this long with those cops hunting you. It's nuts.

@jacksobrooks lmao. It is truly luck. I've had 3 family members murdered by the police. I wouldn't call it hunting, as much as I would say it's extorting at gun point.

@jacksobrooks 2 were shot one was beaten to death on Christmas.

@keegan johnson why

This. People probably don't know, but in the same year this man threatened four other people with his gun over traffic/parking incidences and also caused a crash with a mother and two children with aggressive driving and break checking. He was waiting for this.

@Ethan CR agreed.. dude was looking for an excuse so he could feel powerful.

@jacksobrooks all three are long stories.

@keegan johnson I understand, but you did bring it up. I just don't think that every cop or even close to half of them are chomping at the bit to kill "anyone everyday" as you said.

Very thought out and intelligent comment.....

Agree with everything but the property part. Property is never more valuable than a life

@Spliffed to The Gallows Even if someone was in the process of burning your house down....?

You have the best comment on this stream. You have common sense and a good sense of reality.

@keegan johnson Wow. Sorry that happened.

Maybe don't have a gun. There really is no justifiable reason to have one.

Very well said.

TBF, The boyfriend shouldn't have pushed him down, he should have slowly walked up and just asked what was going on what they were yelling. Instead he chose to attack Michael.

Well he was just arguing with the lady. Technically her man instigated the whole thing when he put his hands on the other man. However that doesn’t make it right to shoot the man. He was not in any imminent danger. Nobody won this one. Sad outcome.

Politely informing somebody they are parked in the handicapped spot is a decent gesture and even a moral obligation towards the community. The thing is that almost nobody in the world (sadly) will admit to being wrong and correct their mistake, so you better be ready to go on with your life or even accept some hard words from such people (as seen in Cart Narcs). Normally the situation should have ended (even after Drejka was shoved to the ground) in the worst case for the couple, with a parking ticket and a few hard stares. Instead, Drejka's actions were led by anger and ego (since the first moment really) and causd the death of a person. Drejka is guilty but things are not black and white.
Edit: I watched a bit more of the video, I fully agreed with the prosecution, justified in pulling the gun, unjustified in pulling the trigger.

@jacksobrooks i can understand the viewpoint (but to clarify i dont really agree 100%, i just can see where he and others are coming from). some people in my family have had bad run-ins with cops, especially one who was beat up really badly by police while he was defenseless. and just recently we got screwed over by a cop who didnt want to do his job after my little brother got jumped in a bathroom and had his phone taken. but i personally havent had any bad encounters with cops knock on wood

@Mr.Krabbb i thought so to. He had time to think, as he saw the gunman and his wife was quarreling and approaching. An ordinary person would walk up and ask what's wrong first. One thing lead to another, and I'm sure had he talked, the firearm would less likely to be pull out.

@DeeABLO2 exactly

Pulling the gun is one thing, firing it is another. You can pull just be sure its for the right reasons. And no, a fist fight isnt a reason.

@ethan
Regardless of what you claim the law allows, you shouldn't be able to just shoot someone simply for being on your property. There should have to be other variables that actually present some danger to your physical well being before you go that far in self-defense. But I'm pretty sure if some kid is retrieving a ball from your lawn, you can't get away with gunning them down.

@The Great Pumpkin No there is definitely other features to it, you have to be put in danger or feel your life is being threatened. so no obv you can’t kill the kid getting his ball but if he pulls out a strap he gettin smoked

@ethan
TBF, your previous comment read: "if someone’s on your property in most states you’re allowed to shoot them." But you can't (or at least shouldn't legally be able to) shoot someone for just being on your property. And I was responding to that. But yes, there's more to it than just that. However, I think it could lead to a lot of gray area or slippery slopes. For example, there's a case where a drunk woman steals a literal Nazi flag from a Nazi's trailer, and he shoots at her multiple times and by some miracle doesn't kill her. People are actually justifying his reaction, tho.

@ethan yep

@Spliffed to The Gallows
If we use history as a barometer then property is far more valuable than life. It doesn't mean it's a great lesson in morality, but it's true that most wars cost lives, and are fought over resources (property.) As proof I would argue that battles are named for real estate, for example it's "the Somme." History forgets the name of even a single one of the 1M combatants who died.

@Captain Price Freedom over safety if you want to be safe live in a cage

@keegan johnson there's more to the story than that

ninjas don't use firearms

@keegan johnson And I am sure they were stopped while helping little old ladies across the street and then complied with every request the cop made.

@Rodney Smith you don't have to obey an unlawful order

tell the cops , let them know this

@keegan johnson lmao what a stupid statement 😂😂😂 but it made me laugh tho

100% ✅

@Rodney Smith nah they were stopped and murdered for going 1 mph over the speed limit. They didn't do anything wrong, cops just let the rounds fly as soon as he stopped.

Absolutely right. I might even take it a step further and say it's not even worth it to protect your property. In my area recently there was a guy who saw some thieves taking the catalytic converter off of his car. He approached them with his firearm telling them to stop, but they were armed as well and then a gunfight took place. Guy was killed over a catalytic converter, not worth it if you ask me. I'll only result to violence to protect myself or others, property can be replaced

Kinda like Kyle Rittenhouse went in with a weapon to a hostile scene and instigated the shooting and claimed self defense.

@BambooScar ah, so you didn't watch any of the trial, look at any of the facts for that case. Good job. Stay woke.

@savethequeen78 wake up, yes I did.

@BambooScar well you need to wake up and actually read the facts of the case before spouting off. You're not better than the cult of the woke members if not.

You can’t shoot someone if they’re destroying your property. Prolly some 13yo kid who’s dad took a conceal deadly weapons class.

This is an important statement. I watched recently a man shoot his girlfriends ex husband over her not letting the father see his kids. It was a argument in front of a house and the BF felt a gun was necessary even tho the father was unarmed and he shot the father bc the father approached him to, likely disarm him but he killed him and was never charged due to self defense. Had they just called the cops those kids would still have a dad and not a murderer for a step dad.

Too many cowboy movies, not enough common sense.

Yeah, not like the dude pulled up his shorts the minute he exited the store, preparing himself for physical conflict. He pushed the guy, whatever happens next is on him. It's one thing arguing with another person, but if you physically assault someone and end up shot, thats your problem lmao.

@Carinae Psychotic worldview. Attemptying to justify somebody using lethal force against a person who is backing away is just next level. I'll add the lmao as well, just to make myself seem cooler. lmao.

@Mr.Krabbb you mean use his words…😱

@CEREAL KILLER But it doesn’t work that way..if you are justified in drawing your gun that means you are in fear of your life because that is the ONLY reason to draw your gun.

@Bettyboop Rocks LOL fr

He got assaulted plain and simple. Yea he shouldn’t have shot him, but when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Both won stupid prizes.

Exactly, never pull your weapon, unless you intend to use it. And you better be right. This guy was looking for an excuse to use his weapon. A real jerk.

I personally don't love guns and don't plan on ever owning one, but I love it when gun owners are responsible and understand what it means to carry a firearm

@Ethan CR This comment needs to be higher up! So many people are calling him completely justified in the situation, not realizing that he is telling his story in a way that isn't entirely honest.

@keegan johnson Long stories are usually full of embellishments. Sorry for your loss, but sounds like it's a bit of a trend in your family. Much more likely that you've got a shitty family than for 3 separate mistakes to be made to the same family. That's just basic statistics. I've had many encounters with police, survived them all just fine.

Agreed 100%

Imagine a world, In a developed country, in 2022, where some people carry firearms, and need all this self defence BS.

@jacksobrooks it doesn’t matter why. They were murdered

@jacksobrooks actually you hit the nail right on the head buddy 🙂 good work 🙄💀

So true

Mall ninja fantasy 😂😂😂😂😂

@jacksobrooks would you make the same statement about the blatant extortion and abuse of civilians rights that occur on a daily basis! I guarantee you it’s way over half who conduct business in this manner! Furthermore the other ones don’t say anything for a band of brothers mentality and which has plagued many ugly instances in our armed forces and police brutality! The system is very broken and almost designed for cops and civilians to not get a long. I have seen some good cops so let’s be clear but the bad far outweigh the good! If it wasn’t for peoples story’s on here that show how their rights were abused then I wouldn’t of learned. Saying you just don’t think its not happening is not listening to people who have gone through it. We can tell our stories but until people choose to believe it to fit their narrative because they don’t wanna believe it.

@jacksobrooks one thing I will agree with is people do act like it’s worse now more then ever and that’s cuz of body cams and we can see with our own two eyes and it enrages the people who have went through it. Makes them relive the bad moments we had with cops. It’s not worse but it’s being filmed is all. Now everyone can see!

@Seahawkblazing "bad moments we had with cops". What bad moment did you have with cops?

@Captain Price You saying this is so damn ironic I’m convinced you’re a bot

This is a great argument for requiring gun owners to know what they are doing...

I agree 100% .

@keegan johnson can we get the names of those three family members? I’d like to investigate this.

The other guy instigated the fight. Legally, Drejka was in the wrong. Morally, I give him a pass. Don’t assault people. Dumbass thought he could attack someone without consequences. Stupid games, stupid prizes.

if you've seen the CCTV and have heard testimony of McGlockton's girlfriend (Jacobs), this is a more complex case than you make it out to be. It's true that Drejka is an idiot, wanna-be cop who murdered someone in the second degree as they were retreating from him. But it's also true that you are still allowed to initiate a disagreement with someone regardless of whether you're carrying. Such a verbal confrontation in and of itself is not a crime. You are not permitted to attack someone who is arguing with your girlfriend, even if it's over something petty or you feel he's in the wrong. Jacobs never testified that Drejka physically threatened her or acted in any way that would make a reasonable person feel as though her life or that of another was in danger. Additionally, she was in the driver seat of a vehicle, with the key, and she even opened her door and exited beside Drejka as McGlockton approached from the side. These aren't actions a person who fears for her life and the lives of her kids takes. On the contrary, it was she who threatened earlier to "get her man", which although not constituting all that imminent a threat by itself, clearly and reasonably can be thought of as a threat of harm in some regard. Both men made poor choices. And when you say "pulling a gun out is your last resort in the face of a threat to you", I agree. I would consider being tackled to the ground one of those instances. Firing upon someone who then retreats is of course another thing entirely.

Was he the one that started the physical altercation? No, that was the black

Great system. Now, as long as everyone is disciplined and mature then the “everyone has a gun” world works. Sadly that isn’t reality, so you’ll have never ending tragedy, forever.

Having a conversation in a parking lot is NOT "instigating" nor is it illegal. Getting pushed off your feet is definitely illegal and justified Drejka's heroic act. Bet them thugs in that neighborhood thinkin' twice before layin hands.

@rain tree I'm pretty sure if you killed someone for burning down your house you would go to jail.

100% correct. Very well said.

@keegan johnson Of course they were :-).

Kinda like in Super when he beats the shit out of a guy with a plumbing wrench for cutting in line.

@Spliffed to The Gallows a humans rights are also important. The right to own and protect property. I don't care about your pathetic life if your trying to break in my house. I don't care if your homeless. I don't care if your starving. If you break in, I'm feeding you lead.

@Captain Price oh no reason except to protect you and your family. Your property. Imagine captain price with no gun lmao

@Dangerous Dru it's almost like people think that it's not the criminals fault that they break into your house. Like they can't control it, you won't get shot if you stay out of my stuff! Easy, I avoid getting shot by doing this everyday. Here, a little guide, step 1) notice other persons stuff, step 2) leave other persons stuff alone, step 3) no shooting occurs. Look how nice I am, I didn't even ask for money for that!
Also, the guy saying that 3 family members just so happened to get killed by cops while totally, no seriously, take my word for it, were not doing anything illegal, I am above and beyond skeptical that they weren't doing quite a lot wrong.

@Spades 75 yes dude a hundred percent! Then people ask what they did and all he says is "long story." If they were shot for no reason that's a pretty short story lmao.

@Dangerous Dru I was a Paralegal for eight years. I've heard a lot of "long stories". Usually it's people breaking the law and honestly just getting upset that they were held to task. There are bad cops out there, sure, same as there are bad plumbers and bad office workers, but it's hardly the majority.

Very much so.

@Roger The Shrubber Id be scared with my babies. People are crazy

It doesn't matter if it comes to you as creepy. He was indeed looking for a plate, which is something normal if you are concerned about people missusing the handicap spot.

@Publio Virgilio The handicapped spot was not legal. The town did not approve of it. Drejka was parked illegally and shot another man because he thought he had a right. It was not normal for any rational human being.

@Looking 4 Things it also doesn't matter if the spot was legal or not, the thing is that the family parked in that spot, they wouldn't know it wasn't legal, they did wrong. The black man was stupid for pushing someone from a blindspot, and of course the shooter did absolutely wrong for shooting him to death, but it is true that he could have feared for his life. There is no need to divide people in good and bad, they were all wrong.

@Publio Virgilio Yes it does, at least if you have some sense of self-preservation when confronting strangers and managing the sort of reaction you elicit from them. Or at least understand the responsibility that you have as a gun owner to avoid escalating to lethal force.

He could also have spoken to a store clerk or called the police.

@Publio Virgilio It very much does matter how Drejka's actions were interpreted, which is why several witnesses were called at trial to testify as to what they saw and heard between Drejka and Marquis' wife, and they all said he was loud and threatening. They even made mention of the confrontation when they went into the store to the owner which alerted Marquis as to what was happening.

@Porky I'm not saying that drejka did right, he is a murderer and he payed for his crime. But that fact doesn't delete the bad decisions the family made. They didn't care about an eventual handicapped persona and the man chose instant violence instead of speaking or calling the police like you said.

@Herbert West I'm split a little in this case. Both men made very bad choices. Drejka should have at most tapped on her window and said it's a restricted spot, chose more productive words for a reminder that its selfish behavior exploiting the handicaps of others. Perhaps tell the clerk about it if she's nasty in response or refuses to move. McGlockton should have de-escalated the situation and refrained from brazenly assaulting someone over a verbal argument. Drejka never made any specific threats of harm-- yes, he acted aggressively and inappropriately, and he's an idiot wanna-be cop. But why would a woman who felt like her life and kid's lives were potentially in danger, when she's the driver of the vehicle she's sitting in, open her door and get out beside Drejka? I never heard any evidence that he spoke words or took action that constituted an immediate threat to her or anyone else. I've had crazies and assholes approach me in public and get my heart racing, and guess what? Regardless or whether or not I'm armed, I de-escalate with words or leave the area if it only gets worse. I feel that by unconditionally supporting McGlockton because of Drejka's mistakes, you send those who listen and agree with you a message that it's ok to attack people in public if they're arguing with you or a loved one, and that the best course of action is to escalate situations like this. It's toxic behavior that gets people seriously hurt and killed. And even if the other party was in the wrong, does it matter when you're dead? Black leaders especially need to be sending this message to their communities, but instead seem to send the opposite: that you can do to people whatever you want if they start an argument with you. That culture of taking these situations into your own hands is causing generational trauma, harm, increasing violence and death. But I suppose we'll keep pointing the finger elsewhere...

@Publio Virgilio In my opinion there were much better ways to handle that concern than him encircling the car and escalating things himself from there. I think that at a certain point things should've been left to actual law enforcement, not some random guy wanting to play cop. At least if it's actual law enforcement inspecting my car and getting awfully close to my kids, I'd know what the intentions are.

I think that this guy wanted to take out some of his frustrations on his own by initiating this conflict. Maybe he didn't go in with the intent to kill, but he certainly had the intent to start an altercation of some kind.

End of the day, what a petty reason for anyone to die. A parking space.

@TRGB yeah bro. That's the thing

In fairness i do let people know about their bad driving or parking but i keep my distance and typically start with do you need medical assistance? Then why the F are you driving/ parking like that. That being said i try very hard to not approach someone in a car as i know when folks rush my window i have pepper spray and other ready to engage the conflict.

Yes. And his car was parked closer to the station so it's not like he was even affected at all by it.

@Looking 4 Things doesn't matter if was illegal. There was no need to go policing the place

@Publio Virgilio "Something normal" like arguing with a woman seconds before you murder her boyfriend. Yknow, normal stuff.

It’s not any less creepy than a random woman pulling up and immediately circling around a man in his car with his kids. Stop creep exaggerating. The kids weren’t even in the car with her, they went into the store with the father.

He didn’t even circle the car you prude, he very obviously was trying to look at the plates.

@Aaron King Timestamps for any of these claims? Also do you even know what the word "prude" means? Why do you sound so fatherless and mad Aaron? Got some problems irl? Got something you wanna share with us?

@_ haha no.

So was anyone handicapped in the vehicle? Or what was the reason they parked there in the first place?

@happyfacefries I agree. Drejka was a jerk and he is right where he should be.

@Maryland marijuana review I'll never park near you.

@Looking 4 Things its about respecting and acknowledging that there are other drivers on the road. Theres no reason anyones driving should effect anyone elses journey if we all did what we were supposed to do. Thank god my grandmother doesnt drive but she can barely walk and the distance in that video would have taken her 30 mins to do on her own and thats with a good spot.

@Maryland marijuana review Funny I dont consider your comment stream to be very respectful to others. Just saying.

@Looking 4 Things lol i dont care about others but also dont want to get ripped out of my ride and beat to death. This does happen every day and im not just talking about hurt feelings.

@Maryland marijuana review Ok. Well have a nice day.

@Publio Virgilio while he parked illegally himself..like I'm sorry he wasn't even handicap himself so why is he even looking for it..

He's actually threatened a woman and her kids with a gun for...driving too slowly in a 15mph school zone.

Man is a habitual road rager who thought his gun made him king of the road.

you noticed that too huh

The very first thing I noticed too

He made a sling for his arm and shit🤣🤣

It was ridiculous for him to even say he was hurt and insane for him to act like he did after having literally just having shot someone in the chest with a gun!!

Me too!

definitely

Drejka didn't confront the woman calmly either. Several people that pulled up to the store and got out of their cars as the confrontation was happening actually made comments to the store owner and Marquis about how loud and aggressive Drejka was. They testified to this at the trial. It was a very heated exchange. Marquis was defending his family like any man would do.

Also they mentioned Dreka had a history of pulling out a weapon on 4 unarmed people (2 men, 2 women) in the past. His firearm should’ve been stripped from him a long time ago

@Herbert West I really don't think just shoving a man like that is good or defending your family. Maybe if he was actually threatening or it seemed like he was already about to get in, then yeah. If what the father did was shitty, then what Drejka did was pure evil. Again, shoving a man like that is a shitty move, unless the man was punching the car already, and I'm not justifying what Drejka did at all.

@Sittie Nakan if some guy is harassing a man's family I think a push would not be a over reaction with how stuff like this usually plays out a fight would breakout I feel as if we as Americans have belief of our right to fuck people up or just kill them for minors things which i
why situations like this are so common here all the guns floating around just makes things that would usually end in a beating more deadly then they would in other countries just reading some of the comments here believing this man desreved to die over a push just soldifys my belief

That's because this. Channel is made up of a few other content creators. It's not just one person. Love it all the same.

Potent Beauty good work from all of them

Jim is daddy

Oh hes at it... for 1 dollar a month you can have over 30 JCS videos you haven't seen that are usually an hour long and involve way more disturbing content ;) SERIOUSLY worth it for a measly $1 a month...

$10 is almost a year, treat yourself. Life too short and you been doing work recently IRL ( i feel )

My 1 dollar is being spent well on his patreon. Such good content

@Anti - Ethnic Cleansing It is because I'm supporting my favourite youtuber who's content has flourished on Patreon due to our support. Don't hate, Be happy.

@Turtle NFTS 🐢 yes and I'm glad the team is making some serious cash cause patreon. I've been with em since day one and will be till the last day!

Jim is amazing, isn't he??

If you're not already subbed on Patreon, and can afford it, I'd highly recommend that too, some great videos on there that aren't on here.

Your absolutely correct. He’s been doing it since day one is the crazy part!

CantStopCor The Goat

Yeah, he's banking off of Patreon. I'm happy to be a dollar of the $18,000+ he's making every month 😂

Potent Beauty That’s not correct. It’s all Jim.

Bradley H That’s incorrect information. This is all Jim.

CrypticRaps wow that’s so much money a year! 😳🤯

I'm a big fan of this channel as well. Every video so far has been quality. 👍

This🖤

Dad TV Time

lol no doubt. And that's just $1,800 something if everyone pledged a dollar. Not taking into account all the ten dollar pledgers.
And yeah, I think Jim puts everything together, then has Kizzume do the reading.

He's been at it. Check his Patreon

Hear, hear

@what stars really look like good ol haters

And please learn to swim

1,000th like. 😀

At this point they need to create their own independent website were you can subscribe for their content. I will not give any money to patreon and would enjoy watching more of their content than what they offer on youtube. Also, what's with the pizza slice and the name latenight lowlife? A lot of people know what pizza means these days. Hopefully you're not involved in that or you will get what's coming to you.

@Cryptic Raps it's even more now

This aged like cheese... I'm sorry @JCS that YT fucked you up :(

This aged terribly

@Cespu_IV
Why? What happened?

@Gregor Samsa He stopped doing videos man

he stopped because youtube started demonetizing his videos. they did it to the newer channels as well. YT ruined it....

And for good reason. I can't stand most other channels in general and their failed cringe attempts at comedy every other sentence. It's like they r so excited narrating that they think they can become comedians or something. 🙄

@TahitianTreat SkeetJuice why they demonizing for?

FORCE MULTIPLIER

I think most reasonable people would have lost their mind if they found out they killed a man over an unused parking spot in front of his The level of grief would be too much to bare to continue with the interview.

This is absolutely absurd to hear, the nerve of some people

maybe his dog not PUSH him first.

@舜帝 …

But your above it all aren't you. Never mind that most of the things that you own were built in sweatshops by children.

not just took a life but took a father away from his kids. I've seen some terrible things on this channel. obviously the guy that killed his family and the Casey Anthony case. but this one is infuriating for a whole other reason that being I cant believe how stupid it is. he killed someone over a parking spot. this is so bad I'm actually going to spell it out instead of using the the acronym: SHAKING MY DAMN HEAD

@christian No, he killed someone because he was attacked. He got into an argument with the WIFE over a parking spot.

I know. That guy Mike Dunn who shot the teen at another store, cried about his dog while on the stand. Not one tear for the teen. Crazy people

A dog loving world😍

exactly my thoughts.

@Ce'Anna Kae Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

@Muskoka Mike He killed someone after getting shoved. I got fucking sucker punched in the gut in highschool, I dont think I had the RIGHT to shoot the guy, and I still dont think so to this day.

@Overly Aggressive Machine "I don't think" ...you could have stopped there.

You DO have the right to defend yourself and if you believed it wasn't over you DO have the right to shoot the attacker.

Obviously you don't know your rights, which is a shame.

@Muskoka Mike so did u not watch the video and pay attention? he went to jail because the evidence was clear that he did not need to take someones life. at MOST all he needed to do was pull out his gun and scare the other guy off.

@sam grant I did watch the video and many people are arrested who haven't committed a crime. He was convicted due to his mindset of almost going out to look for something like this to happen.

In many other places, he wouldn't even be arrested in the first place. "stand your ground" laws and all.

If you think a person isn't supposed to defend themselves when attacked, you should come up to Canada. Here if someone is breaking into our house and we stop them we get arrested too. If someone attacks us on the street and we defend ourselves, the same: we get arrested.

The point you all are missing is: you don't turn a verbal argument into a physical one because you never know if the other person is going to pull out a gun and defend themselves.

@Muskoka Mike He did have the right to defend himself, but if he chose to respond with deadly force then there would be a burden of proof he must meet that he genuinely felt his life was in danger.

Not to mention he said he didn't need or want to change the scenario....

@舜帝 I can’t tell if your joking

What does his personal reaction have to do with the rest of the world?

@Brandon Massey It’s obvious that is his personal reaction. My point is that it is sad for anyone in this world to react that way.

Lol probably thought his ass was going to get a job that day too 💀

This. Exactly

I think he did wrong to protect himself. He should have asked for a lawyer first.

Funny lol

it's almost like the police actually do their job...

@Diamond Cooper I agree with active self protection. but in fairness he initiated the entire thing. if I go around starting shit with people and kill them as the become aggressive is that ok?

@CyberWolf
Canis Lupus
Howl baby..🌙 Long and Loud...

He did wrong by shooting him and especially shooting him in the body, but the other dude started being aggressive first. One thing is having a verbal argument, and the other one is using force.

@Fox Right. Like you wouldn't confront a man being aggressive with your woman. The shooter was being aggressive first with the victim's woman, so much so that people in the store could hear the altercation.

@William Graham has it been said that it was him who started being aggressive or you're just making this up? All I've heard that there were 2 people arguing. And anyway, he didn't touch her once, but her man comes out and starts being a macho by pushing him on the ground. Not that simple.

@Fox Dude, did you watch the video? Fact:
He lied about his interactions with the victim. Fact: He has a history of pulling his gun on people. Four people to be exact including women. Fact: He walked around the car and rightfully the woman rolled down her window to ask him what he was doing. He approached her car when he had no right to do so. He went there with a confrontation in mind. That in itself is aggressive. Are we supposed to believe that a man who goes around pulling his gun on people was not aggressive 🙄

@William Graham You don't know what he was thinking when he pulled the gun out on this dude. You don't know what happened when he pulled his gun out before. He had full rights to approach someone's car, he didn't come that close nor did he touch it. He went there to tell her to park her car on the other spot, we still don't know who started the confrontation first. Even if he was aggressive, he didn't use any force first. All the people close to him say he was always calm and no one even knew he had a gun in the first place. I don't know what you see, but I surely don't see a psycho who wants to kill someone. Just a basic man who has a gun for self defense.

@Fox You dont need to write all that. Just think to yourself for a moment: Should I kill a guy because he took a step towards me? Did i really think he was about to kill me or was I just overreacting? I think overreacting. Case closed.

😂😂😂😂

@Violet Wade Exactly right.

@cj Hall Be that as it may, what is wrong with it is knowing the encounter could end up in an aggressive confrontation and you being ok with that because you know you're packing. He confronted the driver with the knowledge that if things didn't go the way he wanted he could simply pull out his gun and shut them up. As he had done four times previously. It's clear it was only a matter of time before he killed someone.

And you have no right to confront anyone about parking in a handicap section unless you're in law enforcement.

@Violet Wade He threw him on the ground. Maybe he was overreacting, but everyone in the comments says that he's that pure evil who just wants to kill people, or that he's weak and wants to pour his anger on even weaker ones, and I think that's not the case. I don't see that amount of hate on videos of real murderers.

@William Graham Maybe stop pretending that there is only black and white and acknowledge that both did wrong?

@Fox See that's where you lost everyone. You dont shoot someone because they made you mad. Period. The fact that he shot a man shows that he's 1) Not fit to carry a weapon, 2) Not good at deescalating a situation, 3) YES overreacting. If he really thought the dude was going to kill him, then he was blowing the whole thing outta proportion. He had SO MANY OTHER OPTIONS to avoid further commotion. But he chose to pull out a gun and kill him. That makes you a murderer if you cant find any other way out of a pretty innocuous situation but to shoot and kill. This should be simpler than youre making it. Maybe u just want to justify the shooting cuz youre scared it'll become a racial thing? Whatever it is, stop over thinking it. The shooter belongs in an institution.

@Violet Wade ''the fact that he shot a man shows that he's 1) Not fit to carry a weapon'' so you carry guns for..?

@Brian Peters bruh

@Fox Um no. The white guy was swearing his head off. You can see that from his head rocking back and forth.

@Timberland Protection. Drejka did not need that kind of protection. He was overreacting and should have weighed his options. Dumb move.

@William Graham to say someone has to right to approach someones car is asinine and stupid. Solely because of that i think your argument is crap. Dude shouldnt be harassing people over handicap placards and he was a shit pile...but sneaking up on someone and shoving them to the ground like that would put some fear in you...he shouldn't have shot. If he was really in fear flashing it could've been enough but you are right...he wanted to kill him.


Thing is these things do nothing but divide and make everyone hate each other. There is no way forward because that hatred is important to some.

@Fox the hate you see is racism my friend. It is blatantly pushed and rewarded. I'm not talking the shit they claim is the problem either....

@Fox they both did wrong, but one did significantly more wrong than the other. What next? Are you going to say jay walkers are just as bad as drunk drivers? Do you have no sense of scale?

@Violet Wade how can you state blatantly false information to make ones case look better? Saying the guy only took a step towards the shooter is just false. He violently pushed him down. They're not saying shooting him was the right call. They're just saying your argument is dogshit, and it is.

@pearswah except I fucking don't

@Violet Wade Exactly what I'm talking about. You don't take anything into the consideration. You see that someone shot someone and are fully convinced that he's a criminal or even a psycho, and the fact that he wasn't the one to start this is non-existent.

@Frogstarr How come you don't work as a police officer yet if you can figure out what was everyone saying from a low quality video without sound showing only one person's back?

@Zach Johnson Telling someone not to park on a handicap place is being a shit person? He wanted to kill someone so much that he initiated an argument just to justify himself after, even though he was characterized as a calm person? I don't even want to continue this discussion.

@Fox logic.

@Frogstarr Logic what? You would have been hired if you had it at such level.

@William Graham sticks and stones... but still that guy didn't continue being physically aggressive, so he was not in imminent danger. At that point if he would have called the cops he would have been in the right. Most likely would have even gotten compensation, if he sued the man.

@Mental Popcorn tf are you tryna say? Simplify your argument because it sounds to me you're just reiterating stuff I already talked about.

@Fox You keep harping on this crazy lunatic being a calm person. What are you basing this on? The guy has a history of pulling guns on people, even women, but yet here you are claiming insistently that he's a calm level headed person who's just misunderstood?

@Timberland People carry guns for all sorts of reasons. The predominant one being for protection. Some I believe carry guns because they relish the idea of having power or intimidating anyone who gets in their way or doesn't immediately do as they please.

@Zach Johnson Racism? Where? I'm white. Does calling out this trash of a human being for killing another make me a racist against my own kind?

@Fox I find your defence of this murderer very strange.

This murderer lied and tried to claim that the victim took a step towards him and so he fired his gun in fear for his life. The video evidence proves otherwise.

The clown then sat and blabbered to the investigators who he thought were his friends and would side with his brand of justice. They were able to get a true account of what happened out of his own clown mouth.

He deliberately approached that car knowing it might end in a confrontation. He didn't care because he had a gun on him, which he planned to use to solve any confrontation that might crop up. That's what gave him confidence as it had in the past.

In fact he didn't pull the trigger because he feared for his life, but because he feared a beating. He feared that he was going to be kicked and beaten, so he pulled out his gun and killed another human being.

And despite your repeated claims that he was calm during the initial confrontation, there was enough of an argument that people in the store heard and the woman's husband came out. Also a calm person would not have a history of pulling a gun on different people on multiple occasions.

A calm person would not have shot and murdered another person in this situation.

And finally the court judged him to be a murderer. End of story. Case closed

@William Graham I'm basing this on a fact that this has been said in the video. You don't know what happened when he pulled out his gun.

@William Graham you don't know what was he thinking at the moment. You don't know what was going on in his head afterwards. You don't know with what intent he approached the car. You don't know he "planned to use a gun". I don't know what a saint are you if you won't use a gun even when you're being beaten. What's the point of having one then? Also, I never said that he was calm during the confrontation. I said that people who know him said he was generally a calm person. I don't know who started screaming and won't pretend that I know everything like you do. And as I said, you don't know what situation he pulled the gun out in. Ant the last part is just exactly my point: you accuse him of being a psycho-murderer with pure evil flowing through his veins just because the court said he did it intentionally. Same court released a person who murdered her own child, would you defend her then? I'm so tired of this argument.

@Fox What are you on about? We do know what happened when he pulled out his gun. We saw the video. The victim AND another were turning away from him, not taking a step toward him when he fired his gun.

@Fox Um...I do know what he was thinking before and after. The guy told the investigators. Are you saying he was lying or did you simply skip the parts in the video where he said he feared a kick and beating?

Actually no, I don't need to pull out a gun to feel big and strong. I don't own a gun and even if I did I would not be pulling and pointing it at people, because I feared being beaten up.

People might know him as calm, but his record says otherwise. He's pulled his gun on multiple people including women. A calm person would not do that. You can justify one incident of pulling a gun on someone, but 5 times? Where the fifth time ended with murdering another human being?

I'm seriously starting to wonder if you really watched the video. I'm not saying he's a psycho-murderer simply because the court said so. I watched him murder a person, try to cover it up by lying and the investigators got the truth out of him.

@William Graham whatever

@Fox LMAO imma go ahead and rub it in cuz I dont even need to say more, you lost that one chief. That was satisfying. Bravo William

@Violet Wade whatever.

@cj Hall confronting someone over handicap parking is stupid unless that person is intentionally preventing you from parking there when you have a legitimate need. Even then, you don’t know that they’re not allowed to park there. Maybe you can’t see the placard or the disability. My placard fell off the mirror a few times and I was ticketed, and I had to go and deal with enforcement and show I had the legal right to be there. You could watch me walk from the vehicle to the building and not realize I have a legit disability, but I do. I don’t think that’s the case here but none of this is anyone’s business unless they’re parking enforcement officers (or whatever that role is) or they are harassing a person with a disability. If Drejka or you or anyone else came up and acted like this I might tell you to F off because I don’t have to answer your questions. Or I might lol and say the placard falls down but it’s current, enjoy your day. Depends on my mood and the way I’m approached. But you don’t know someone is a shit person based on what you can’t see, and that’s what is wrong with just getting up in someone’s face over a handicap parking spot.

@Sarah Nikas the only thing that is very clear is that he was attempting to enforce a law and in doing so he created a situation that resulted in a death.

@Fox reading on, I’m glad everyone else seems to see sense here. You are clearly trying to justify this man’s actions (and trying weirdly hard to do so) for whatever reason. Thank god the rest of us aren’t as fucking stupid

@Fox Tbh I couldn’t care less what you find funny because the rest of us are laughing at you

@Fox I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you’re definitely a seppo

@Georgia Baie Anderson goof for you.

@Zach Johnson 1st the issue with your argument is the man is not a police officer nor an employee of said store . He has no right to approach a vehicle for any reasons other than to see if the driver is in need of assistance. 2nd he had 4 cases of pulling his weapon out on people . 3rd if you walk out the store and see some random man yelling and cussing your significant other around your children , any man would immediately go into offense . He was the aggressor, and now he's in jail getting a train ran on him 🤷

I needed that !

@Fox I have a question. Beyond the "objective lens" or devil's advocate approach, what is your personal opinion on the matter? Obviously he killed someone which we all agree was horrible but your stance seems to be that unlike what the video stages, the man was a mostly normal citizen that was thrust into a situation in which he made a bad call. Do you mind exploring how you feel about it? I'm not here to ridicule or point fingers

@Noah Martinez I feel bad about any form of violence and in this situation it seemed to me like a victim was an initiator of violence. I think every conflict can be dealt with with words and people who can't do that are responsible for their actions, and this includes death. I can't imagine pushing someone when there's no threat, but I can totally imagine getting pushed or kicked because someone is just getting agressive towards me, so it's easier for me to understand what might have been happening in the mind of the attacker then what was happening in the mind of an initiator. Once again, I might be wrong, which I already said a couple of times. But I feel like given the story I heard in the video, I might also not be, but nobody wants to acknowledge this. Is that what you wanted to know?

@Fox Yup that's all I wanted, thank you for allowing me to see your point and sorry for everyone piling on you. Especially in cases like this it's easy to become blindsided by rage at the occurrence and hard to see someone else's perspective. There's a lot of truth to your words from my own perspective and these details are important. Have a good day

@Noah Martinez thank you for a good conversation. Sometimes it almost seems like people can only yell at each other and nice people get lost from the view. Sorry if it seemed that I was justifying killing someone, most of the time misunderstanding is the main problem in the argument.

@Fox Of course, and it's even worse when everyone dog piles without even reading the whole thread. Between 10-15 people just disregarded everything you said and questioned your pursuit for logic and frankly it was irritating. In a perfect world we wouldn't all be trying to cede power from one another and instead seek to understand and uplift one another but until then all we can do is try.

@Fox it was the right thing to be aggressive because his daughter and partner were in the car and a random dude is shouting at them! Natural instinct to protect your family

@Jayda J I don't think instincts apply to civil people. The instinct to rape someone is natural, too, but rape is bad and no one supports it, so no one should support aggression either.

Exactly this

@Fox You already lost this argument to everyone on this thread when you replied "Whatever" to a logical argument.

@tmas the thing is, I didn't find it logical. By the time I already explained my position, and it was either ignored or not understood by the commenter. I'm over this argument, I explained myself, do what you want with this.

@Fox How it was illogical? Just did state facts you can hear in the video. Simple as that.

@tmas I already answered this, please read a thread.

@Fox I did read the whole thread. You didn't answer to that question. You only said "Whatever".

@tmas if you did read it whole, then you didn't really read into it. I thought my position was crystal clear, especially after my last conversation. I only stated that given his record, lack of information and the fact that he was attacked first, it's irresponsible to draw a conclusion that he is a cold-blooded murderer. I know it's easy to do so, but I literally said "it's not that simple" and people were triggered that I could even question their verdicts that were based on one video. They call me a defender of a murderer, even though my first comment read "what he did was wrong". That about sums it up, please, don't ask me anymore questions I already answered.

@Fox did you see the footage? he stared at the dude BACKING UP for MULTIPLE SECONDS

I think Drejka thought he was one of the guys and they thought as he did.

FORCE MULTIPLIER

Thank you for the update!

Thanks! What about the lady? Does she still park in handicapped spaces?

@Squiggly Line Only when there are plenty of other available parking spaces to minimize the impact of her actions, from what I've heard.

@Metal Gamer Yes yes, I'm sure she's given careful consideration to all handicapped before parking in their spaces, weighing each scenario carefully before finalizing the park...........

@Squiggly Line she should

@Metal Gamer Yet she fails to consider the plentiful parking spaces for herself to park instead of taking up the handicapped space..

@Johnny Natrium have you honestly ever seen a handicap person get out of a car and go “gosh I’m sure glad that this handicap parking spot was open, if it wasn’t, who knows where I’d be”. There’s a reason he was convicted of manslaughter.

@Zach Vinson This may be the most insanely nonsensical comment I've ever read.

@Metal Gamer Haha! Good one.

@Zach Vinson
Yes. Too often I have seen truly handicapped people struggle when a non-stickered car parks in a handicapped stall. That man was wrong and deserves to be punished for what he did.
But people who wrongly park in handicapped stalls are scum.

Thank you!

@Squiggly Line u care about the law but u defend murderers over parking citations lol

@Red Diver I’m not referring to places like grocery stores or something. When you’re referring to something a little bigger, I totally get it. Biggest douche move in the world. I totally agree. There was a video I seen of a guy who couldn’t get his wheelchair ramp out because a lady parked in the middle of the lines on a spot. So I totally see what you mean. But because someone parked in one at a rundown gas station that was “his store” he felt he needed to do something about it. Which got someone killed. That’s what I meant when I’m referring to the handicap spot. If it’s Walmart or something, I totally get it. But a 10 second stop at a rundown gas station isn’t the same. I feel like context matters in these situations.

@Zach Vinson

"...a 10 second stop at a rundown gas station isn’t the same."
Yes, it is. It is exactly the same.

I’m dead

Thanks for the update

@Zach Vinson We are VERY grateful for those spots, and we SAY SO too. I guess you're a teenager and yet to develop to the adult stage, why else would you make such an inane comment!? Hmm, he shot an unarmed man, perhaps that's why he was convicted of manslaughter. Just a guess, of course.

@Zach Vinson <---- this guy parks in handicap spots

@Johnny Natrium are you really suggesting that it was her fault her husband was shot and killed in front of their young children no less, because she parked in a disabled spot which was the furthest from the door and every single spot in front of the door was actually available. We don’t even get to see the actual spot!! It could be one that has no post and barely visible paint on the ground! I happen to live 20 mins from where this happened and I can tell you 100% that we have MANY spots where it’s not immediately obvious if your not specifically looking! But yea your probably right… it’s all her fault.

@Melissa Coulter How about you read my comment again; the answer to your question is right there. Do I really have to remind you that you completely made up your entire accusation upon which you base your gripe with me? Look at your first sentence, which is a question based upon sheer fantastical speculation about what I might be thinking, and then look at my comment to see that you never needed to ask that question.

So now people should be mindful of not parking in certain spots so they don't get shot based on most arguments I've read that's the assessment I've come to make.

@Metal Gamer that's pretty weird that you think handicapped spaces should be given to non-handicapped people when there are other spaces available. that's almost like the exact opposite of how that should work

@Squiggly Line i am telling you this as a full time wheelchair user, it doesn't fucking matter. Her boyfriend was slaughtered in front of her over a miniscule misstep. She has no blame here, this man would have killed anyone who became slightly aggressive with his self-appointed entitlement to authority. Mistakes do not mean someone should die.

Why did I read this with JCS narrator's voice?

@Jon Norwood thats not what they’re saying…

that judge was a savage 🤣🤣🤣

Thank you

@berry pretty macular degeneration in his leg?

Sweet justice. I don't feel bad about it at all.

@Johnny Natrium The parking space was not a legal handicapped space with the proper signage approved by the town. As the deputy on the scene explained. Drejka was illegally parked.

@Johnny Natrium What a price to pay for an oversight. Just doesn't make sense to me as a mother myself.

@Jon Norwood no, I didn't.

@Looking 4 Things Who said it makes sense to me? If I may humbly offer some advice: stop stressing yourself out by filling in other people's thoughts and views with negativity, based on some preconditioned assumption that people who say one person was in the wrong, automatically think the other person was right in doing what they did. This shapes such a common misguided worldview where people are reduced to one-dimensional evil or good, based on simplistic and generalizing interpretations of opinions.

@Johnny Natrium You gaslight people. Ok that's it for me. Bye

In Florida he will pull what 85% of that..the dude didn't seem together his actions at all.

@Johnny NatriumAfter noticing your many condescending statements in this feed. Ive seen how you respond to others.-- You see in others what you cannot admit is in yourself.( Hint, nobody cares that much to attack you in any way.)

Somehow I found pleasure in hearing that.

@Squiggly Line still it doesn't justify being killed by police wannabe person

Your right in this case, many parking spots next to it available.
If it was a full parking lot I could understand his pount of view to check.. (I have also the habbit to check for the card when I walk by a car parked in a handicap spot. And when I see non and someone sitting in the car they also get my dirty look pointed at them.. even I'm not a handicapted man)

You're right. That's why you don't physically assault people, because you might assault the wrong armed hothead.

Yep..exactly..its kind of pathetic but when I was 21 I was hired as security to look for bombs in the Marriott hotel in times square new York City after a 12 hour class (which was 2 that tbe instructor gave us tbe answer for ..and I was on opiates) . ..he obviously had problems that other people saw in him .. BUT he was a neighborhood watchmen which is very prestigious ...

Ben Kaplan haha that’s a cool tidbit about yourself. What a strange job, for stranger times.

Lee Ham it’s true. I feel really sad for both men, especially Markeis. He made a decision to honor his family with considerable aggression, and moments later he lost his one and only life. That’s it. He was cast into the eternal mystery. All because Michael Drejka wanted to be somebody, and never was.

I got the same vibe, he was so ready to defend himself on the self-defense grounds and he seemed to be the classical gun owner, dont tread on my lands, i vote trump type

Forgot to add: Drives a truck

@Christer Knutsen lmao that guys not your classical gun owner I’ve been around guns my whole life and have never met anyone or known of anyone in my family who went to prison for shooting someone. If anything my dads old pilot instructor went to prison for trying to kill his gf or some shit with a crossbow.

I work for a city and he’s the kind of guy who makes multiple parking complaints a day

@Lee Ham or... that's why you don't give away permits and guns to citizens as if they were, I don't know... TENNIS RACKETS ?

@Lee Ham black guy was defending his lady who was being verbally assaulted by a strange hothead white dude. He shouldn't have shoved him, no, but it was at least understandable as he was probably scared for his woman.

100% agree. That's exactly the vibes I got.

@Abby Cross Scared for his woman? Don't put your hands on another person. The crazy white guy was shouting, but shouting isn't a crime. Battery is.

@LEGO Ghost Yoda You are correct; that guy should not have shot the unarmed man who was walking away.

This does not mean that the shooter shouldn't have had a gun; he just shouldn't have fired it. Guns save lives, too.

@Lee Ham Not in the US they don't.

@Abby Cross I believe they do. What evidence do you have to support this? If a criminal attempts to harm someone, a law-abiding citizen can use a gun to fend off the attacker. This happens often. The FBI statistics say it happen at least 500 000 times a year, or up to 3 000 000 times a year. It's pretty obvious that a tool designed for harm can be used to harm deviant individuals.

That makes a lot of sense

@Lee Ham 3000000 times a year? No.

@Abby Cross Even if we take the low number (500 000) it is still a lot. Guns are as much of a tool for self defense as they are for crime.

Seems to me like he was waiting for a moment to use it , on anyone or anybody

Lol felt the same 😱

Agreed

@helBob arhh no mate.

You're describing a "Kyle"

AHAHAHAHAHA YESSSS

@alex esposito cast into the eternal mystery. That’s beautiful.

golden shower king you’re right.

@Abby Cross Scared for his woman that an old man is scolding her? So scared of him that he has to assault him and throw him to the ground? Say what you will about grandpa's character and his shitty personality, but god damn assaulting someone like that especially when they're not violent or directly threatening is just stupid. Neither of these men made particularly good choices

@killsalot78 grandpa? He looks pretty middle-aged to me. And she wasnt getting a tsk-tsk finger-wagging from him, he was yelling at her. No, he shouldn't have shoved him. But the guy you think is ancient (???) shouldn't have shot a retreating man.

I agree, especially the way he was trying to police the handicapped parking spots. No normal person would even care about something so minor but I could see someone who wanted and failed to be a civil servant their whole life doing stupid stuff like this to feel important.

Got the same vibe, guy is the complete opposite of a responsible gun owner. Someone looking for confrontation because he can hide under the saftey of having a firearm with him. I feel like had the victim not shoved him he probably wouldn't have shot him but the clown clearly has never been in a fight at all and being scared he chose to murder someone else because of his own insecurities. Sad little man that Mr. Drekja

@Abby Cross nothing had happened to his woman. He wanted to be a big man and suffered for it. Words aren't equal to physical violence.

@Alastor true, and shoving isnt equal to getting shot.

@Abby Cross didnt say it was. Any other useless info you wanna throw my way?

@Grant M. Why? Some people are crazy. Don't play with crazy; you'll get sued or worse.

@Lee Ham You have to judge the situation as you would react in the moment. If all I saw was a random guy yelling at my wife and being aggressive, my first impulse would be to defend her in this case. I don’t think I would have attacked him, but that still would be a reasonable thing to do.

@Lee Ham you were the one who made the original claim that “guns save lives” therefore the burden of proof is on you.

@Lee Ham but we don’t know what this guy said to the wife to cause the aggression by the father. Is it not possible this guy threatened the wife? This guy is clearly unstable and has an aggressive history. Just another perspective to consider. Either way, we can’t have people shooting people like this.

@Priscilla I already gave evidence, Priscilla. The FBI statistics show that roughly 500 000 - 3 000 000 crimes are stopped by guns each year in the USA. From that data, we can assume that a portion of those crimes are life-threatening, and proves that guns save lives.

@Anavader Duo That is an excellent point, and one I did not not consider. At this point, I'll just have to accept that there is more gray area here than I originally thought. If he was threatening his wife, then I think it's justifiable; the black man would not be at fault.

I still stand by my thoughts of "don't mess with crazy" however. Being crazy isn't against the law, so there are crazies just waiting to do something like this. Be careful out there, people. You don't know until you have experience with someone like that, so try not to make your first experience with crazy your last .

@Anavader Duo the victim came out and saw an aggressive male arguing with his gf with his kids in the car. Im not surprised that he shoved this guy away. There are lots of incidences caused by cowards like the guy in this video who, after being confronted for trying to intimidate a woman, pulls a gun when faced with another male. He threatened another woman with kids before. Pathetic.

@Lee Ham gun self defense statistics are widely regarded as exaggerated, same as any self reported number. these “criminals” they defend against are almost never caught and almost never go to the hospital afterward so there aren’t medical records to support it. the amount of people who’ve said they’ve used a gun for self defense is about the same as as many americans said yes when asked if they believe in aliens. also 500,000-3,000,000 is one hell of a window, ain’t it?

You just described my ex husband.

I Repent worry walked beside you.

Unfortunately there are a bunch of these types around.

I think he has a hatred towards black people and that fueled his verbal assault on this woman, I bet if it was a white woman parked like that he wouldn’t blink,

That’s how all these killers think

Negative. Definately just trying to neutralize the area. Nothing to see here, officer.

😭🤦‍♀️ this was exhausting to watch lol

Why don’t you make your argument and leave your least favorite politician out of it? You went from making sense to illogically flawed nonsense in seconds.

Hes trying soo hard to talk like a officer

He retired in his thirties which I think is kinda pathetic.

AFFIRMATIVE

Some people here have really strange thoughts when it comes to "be a man". Beeing a man (in a situation like that) means to be in or to establish control. By sucker shoving the dude you only create chaos and that means anything can happen.
Its that false perception of "beeing a man" that escalted the situation. Yet people still brag that they would to the same. I dunno what to say about that.

You should meet some of the guys like him who barely did make it in...barracks life is interesting.

@Stoned97 I liked that one too.

its like he has a hero complex but wasn't good enough to join the army or become a cop

He was the security guard over the handicap parking spots at his local gas station that he goes to every day!

Paul blart gone rouge

probably was too lazy to lift so he could not land any job where could be a bully.

100%. He's a lame wannabe who thinks hes the baddest cop around. For some reason the vibe i got from his interview was that he felt like he was some sort of hero for shooting this guy. Especially when he sounded annoyed when he hard someone screaming about their kids and didnt bother to see if anything else was wrong because he didnt feel threatened (sorry er "neutralized the threat"

@Lee Ham are we talking about the guy murdering someone over a parking spot or the man protecting his wife?

100%

Christer Knutsen I get the vibe you are a city-slicker, that you don’t know how to change a tire, that you can’t feed yourself without a grocery store and would vote for Joe Biden 🤣

"This guy has been waiting his entire life for an opportunity to be a hero in some fantasy he conjured up" according to you. This should be applied to the person who pushed. He was the one who showed off and he bit the bullet.

Diamond Cooper I get the feeling you would shoot a man in the lower abdomen based on some get-even principle. Just like our pal Mike.

@alex esposito Don't try to change the topic. Please admit that your comment is flawed.

Diamond Cooper there are very clear variables behind the wrong doings of both of these men. One of them is dead. The other seemed satisfied the moment he heard about it. Glad to have policed a parking spot. Glad to have shot a father in front of his three children. Because in his own mind, he was a justified authority. Unfortunately, the dead don’t get to plead their case. But I bet Markeis wouldn’t have sounded anything like Michael.

Imagine being unfit to be a cop lol. “Sir you don’t meet sack of shit standards. There’s the door.”

That would hurt deep. Just as deep as his celly is going in tonight. Dry.

@STBD I should have just said this to begin with. “Peak”, considering he fucking killed a man. Couldn’t agree with you more.

Me too

@Lee Ham - Not to mention you will to jail time for assault.

@Lee Ham - Agreed. The guy that pushed Mike to the ground, would have been charge with assault and done jail time, Mike should have just called the cops and let the law arrest the man that put his hands on someone. Talking in public isn't a crime so at that point they had nothing on the shooter, other than also parking illegally.

Nah man, I know these kind of people. it's a guy who failed his life, is weak and has an inferiority complex, that's why he bothers random people, to take his anger out on them. Feel bad for the victim

Spot on.

The way you felt is why the jury found him guilty. Everyone felt that, even the judge because the judge destroys him verbally during the court proceedings. I think the closing arguments or sentencing.

That is rather tragic. How many families have been broken because of the power fantasies of those Punisher-wannabe losers

This man is the physical embodiment of MAGA

I understand his anger. Stop parking in handicap spots if you aren’t handicap or have a placard. Nowadays, it’s a big difference. People just walking around with loaded guns may have a mom and gets irritated at the asshole who has parked wrongly. The courts would never select me as a juror. Get these damn guns off of the streets, it’s not okay. People get angry at this type of behavior. Wonder if the police or anyone told these people to park appropriately. Too many angry Americans in this world today. For example, I live in a adult only 1 bedroom apartment building and suffer from really bad headaches, so why is there a family of 4 including two children under 8 living above me. I have called many times and have even gone up the steps myself and remind them that the thumping and banging from the little boy is too much. I am putting my rent in escrow until that family moves. In the meantime, when they thump, I use a plastic baseball bat and bang on the ceiling. If it happens again, I will start banging at 2 and 3 in the morning. Besides I specifically asked before moving in if there were children in the building and I was told no. They lied. I know this doesn’t have much to do with the shooting but people’s actions can sometimes hit a nerve. I understand him. He didn’t need to kill anyone though. Have to be extra careful these days. Nice family above me but wrong place, they have to go where their children can do what children do, but after a year, I am not moving. They don’t belong in this building at all.

alex esposito He had no business parking in a handicap spot.

@Mylesa Stinnette Michael Drejka had no business being a parking lot security officer.

"The way he spoke to these police" - I agree he was a fool however blabbling your mouth to the police will always get you banged up.

@Bradley harness what!??? Your dad’s old pilot instructor tried using a crossbow to kill someone? Damn. That’s nuts

@Lee Ham He was physically assaulted first.

@Applecompuser No the assault was the threats that drejka did first, what the woman should of done was called the cops on him and even could of said that he has a gun. If the operator heard kids in the background crying, there's a high probability that they would of rushed. But let's be honest, we are talking about the people of Florida.

Yep, a wannabe cop, but couldn’t make the grade.

@Lee Ham my thoughts EXACTLY. What happened to McGlockton is tragic but was it really necessary for him to so forcefully push a guy he doesn't know because he had 45 second argument with his girlfriend (where she was at fault)?

Just ignore him, get in the car and leave. You NEVER know who you're dealing with.

Stand your ground needs to be amended.

@Bradley harness I think she meant classic gun owner who shouldn't be allowed to be in possession of a gun.

@earentill best response on this entire video. This is the issue and this will always be an issue as long as owning a gun that can take a life in a matter of seconds is as simple as walking into Wal Mart and having a clean record.

If he was a cop, it would have played...

Damn right.

I work with a couple of people who are desperate to be in leader positions but very obviously would make terrible leaders, their vision of leadership is how I imagine this guys vision is .

More than likely President of the Moan & Groan Society... 🗣💤 🇬🇧

I got that vibe too. Hard not to.

Nailed it Alex

@Lee Ham bro don't even walk to close to sme people

@Robert Bellamy Oh did he? You seem very weak. Very very weak.

I agreed

Yes. You’re right. Wanna be Rambo

DEAD on, Alex.

@killsalot78
Oh good lord, you must be very young… 😬😑

@Eye Gotcha lol, why are you projecting?

@Lee Ham pushing someone isn’t 🔋

Exactly

@alex esposito yeah I'm sure the career criminal was nothing but honorable, between taking a handicapped stall when plenty others are empty to blindsiding someone in the literal video in front of you, he just reeeks of honor

@Trollashnikov Avtomat I’m sure most people can somehow identify with both Michael and Markeis. If I unknowingly walked into this situation as Markeis, I would probably have gotten myself killed also. I like to think that if I was Michael, I would have shown some legitimate restraint and didn’t pull the trigger.

Well said.

Affirmative

YES! I’m glad someone said it. The way he spoke made me angry since I knew he wasn’t in the military or a cop. And did he just want to do those things so he could finally use a gun? His Defense lawyer also sounded so full of shit. Even without knowing any of the case, I think I would have made the same face as that one lady in the jury. The prosecution team did a great job highlighting the FACTS

Facts!!

I completely, agree.

It’s really sad, the desire for validation ate up his own morality, at least that’s how I see it

100%

100%

@Didificcuideiidfdick could not agree more. So spot on. His life was completely sucked into some falsehood that never actually mattered. This was some kind of act of character for him.

@Bradley harness I think @Christer Knutsen means stereotypical gun owner instead of classical gun owner. If so, then I agree. Where I live, everyone owns guns and people get stabbed more then they do shot.

i wholeheartedly agree with that.

@Christer Knutsen he literally drives an suv I hope you don’t have kids or if you do they know the difference between a Toyota Tacoma and a Toyota 4 runner

Totally!!

I was also getting that vibe. I feel like he's one of those gun owners who is itching for an excuse to justify carrying. And now he's found himself in a situation where he can trick himself into believing that he has to shoot. Even though it's incredibly clear that this is not the case.

His whole attitude makes him completely unfit to carry. It's perfectly legitimate to carry in the off chance you need to protect yourself or others, but it must be with an attitude of last resort. Of never wanting to ever utilize that EVER.

As I stated, I think he's tricked himself into thinking he's in the fantasy situation he's always wanted to be in, and thus I don't even think he was lying. Possibly the same goes for his "injuries" that he was over-playing. And because of his fantasies, a man, a father, is now dead.

The scariest and most pitiful thing is that he's not a rare sort.

I absolutely 💯 agree with you. 👏👏👏

@Lee Ham wow! Thank you for victim blaming That's so cool. Did you not hear the part where he aggressively threatened 4 other people with his gun? That one of those people was a mother with her two children? It seems like this man was looking for someone to hurt. How about we just say don't be this horrible person and leave it at that.

I agree with you.

Agreed

Very well said kind sir

He walked around in our world with hate and depression. It found an outlet. It's sad to imagine what sort of family he grew up with.
Those children who are beaten will in turn give beatings, those who are intimidated will be intimidating, those who are humiliated will impose humiliation, and those whose souls are murdered will murder.

And a proper chicken without a gun

@Lee Ham Screaming in someone's face is a crime if you refuse to leave them alone lol

@Abby Cross Hes actually correct about that

Same. The way he says "negative" instead of "no", and uses bullshit words like "force multiplier" just SCREAMS "I idolize the military, but am too unfit to actually serve."

It's embarrassing.

Well said. Absolutely 💯 agree

Lol you got that “vibe” without speaking with him one word did you?? Wow you should be a private Investigator or at least a Homicide detective

@Lee Ham Scared for his woman lol

@Bradley harness he is though, just looking for that ideal scenario hes always dreamed of to finally have a legitimate use for his firearm. all gun owners have had that dream. except he got it wrong

Fully agree

He got a purple heart in naum

@Lee Ham love to see him outdraw me.

And he got exactly what he bargained for

Unfortunately since Florida is a “Stand Your Ground” Law state, that very well may be true.

at which time in intergorrations can you get a lawyer? beause I havent seen a person in these videos who got one.

@Moritz Dietrich at any time, the moment your Miranda rights are read to you, you can ask for a lawyer, and the interrogation has to stop right then and there.

@Moritz Dietrich Literally any point.

It’s baffling to me how nobody does. From the moment they walk in they can sit down and refuse to speak until they get a lawyer. That’s the smart thing to do, but thankfully, these people aren’t very smart.

I agree. The Kyle Rittenhouse trial is a perfect example of what lawyering up will do for you. Had Kyle gone thru an interrogation like this one he would have also made statements that would have been used against him at trial. Regardless of anyone opinions of the wrongness or rightness of that case it’s just a fact that police are not trying to cut you slack.

They are trying to get you to say incriminating things and to ask you what happened so that when you make errors they can claim you were being dishonest when most people have trouble relaying accurate details of a stressful situation that can stand up to scrutiny.

The cops would have asked Kyle a bunch of leading questions just like here and the strength of his case would have been weakened because he doesn’t know what a lawyer knows. And if he said the wrong thing it could have buried him.

Whoever convinced him to lawyer up deserves his eternal, lifelong gratitude.

There are plenty of innocent people in prison who wish they had just shut up and refused to answer any questions but it’s human nature to try and explain yourself. To try and justify your actions. And the police use this to their advantage.

@Moritz Dietrich usually cause lawyered up people who get off aren't interesting to watch

@Arctic Terra he’s not standing his ground when there’s clear video of the other person disengaging and walking away. Even if he had said nothing there was still the other man there the entire time that was not with them that witnessed the whole thing. This would never have been a case of stand your ground. The guy shot didn’t tackle him to the ground. He clearly pushed a clear threat away from his family. He pushed him away. He did not walk up and punch him.

@Melissa Coulter My point was less that this was justified (it was absolutely not), and more that a lawyer in a stand your ground state could make an incredibly convincing argument for this as self-defense, since really all you need in those states is “fear for your life”

If he had spoken to a lawyer without this interrogation, this likely could have ended with his lawyer and him crafting a story that he was “shaken up” by the events and his adrenaline was pumping causing him to genuinely fear for his life or something.

You’d be surprised how easy stand your ground laws make it to get away with unjust killings when you have a good lawyer.

He absolutely would have gotten off with a great lawyer and if he kept his mouth shut. Saying that if the guy stood still, he would have no reason to shoot and saying that he couldn't see the guy's face were huge mistakes. If he kept his mouth shut, I guarantee a lawyer would've told him to say that he saw fury and rage in the victim's face and that he truly felt like the man was going to continue attacking him based on the look in his eyes. He could've also said the man verbally threatened him since the CCTV camera didn't pick up audio and the victim's face was looking away from the camera. Our justice system is broken and this guy definitely would've gotten off, or at least a significantly reduced sentence, if he had a good lawyer.

@Moritz Dietrich you can get one immediately and not talk to the cops at all. If the guy had done that and hired a good lawyer there's a very good chance he would have gotten off, or at least a much lighter sentence.

absolutely. never talk to police.

because of Florida's stupid law you are probably right

@Moritz Dietrich you can ask for one immediately but they never do. I think the lady cop who committed murder was the fastest one on this channel to request a lawyer. I guess most of these criminals think the detectives are stupid and they can lie their way out of it. it's so funny too watch they are in over their heads. detectives are some of the smartest people on the plsnet its nothing like lying to your mommy about not taking any extra cookies. LOL

Not with the camera as evidence. No way

@Arctic Terra nothing wrong with standing ur ground

@CounterSniper Kyle was interrogated he was defending hisself

@Arctic Terra Belief has to be reasonable §776.012(2) "A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony."

Yes. Never talk to the police.

I wrote this before finishing the video, the proscutor explained it well xD

These are all good points

I live in Boston, MA, and if a cop saw someone with a weapon he'd have a gun to his head, be on the ground, and be handcuffed before he could aim a gun at someone. Up North, this doesn't happen. In the southern states, it does.

Generally when they are very pissed, you won't spend a day in jail. That means their evidence is NONE.

Every cop I have talked to has been very nice with me

@Samuel Ortiz so how's life in jail?

@Lucía Rehermann We have cable

lol that's what I've absorbed from watching these interrogations

@Samuel Ortiz and internet apparently, still better than the cops being real mean.

Not condoning committing crimes, but if you are ever being interrogated by police always ask for a lawyer. Even if you're innocent, get one.

True and if cops are being mean to you get a lawyer keep your mouth shut they got nothing on you

@West Taiwan this cannot be overstated. Especially if you feel like they think you did something.

or you're white

tony F actually.... a lot of facilities have limited access. I used to love receiving snail mail from some of the offenders I deal with in my research but they’re all slowly getting eaten up by JPay and states are buying into their email stations and tablet programs. Now I have to buy “virtual stamps” to send messages

20 years for murdering a father

I had a good cop bad cop situation couple of times. They just wanted my money

Christian H ...yea right

Not exactly same degree of seriousness, but I got caught driving WO a full licence. (First snowfall, car slid, then car behind pushed me into parked bus as his car also slid)
There were 3 people now involved...me, the other driver, and the car owner who was very close as I almost reached my destination.
So, cop asked me to sit in front w him. I was sweating a bit about that, as I was sitting beside his rifle (RCMP) . He asked the two men in back for usual info and describe situation. Then it was my turn. He asked for license, I said I didn't have it. I had none. I was unsure how he'd react. He asked me to describe situation, and he proceeded to compliment me on my handling of the car, said most wouldn't react that way. I forget now what I did lol as it was a Grand Marquis automatic!!! Lol
Honestly, he was the nicest cop I ever met! Ended up with a warning and 250.00 fine!
But I do agree with rest of the comments here, just sharing a memory I guess! Ty

But those nice cops released him. The public pressure is why he was indicted a month later.

Tell that to Casey Anthony. The biggest failure of the us justice system recently

Lmfao

Garrett Emrick Especially if you’re innocent. If you’re guilty as hell it might not matter, if you are innocent it sure as hell does.

@Samuel Ortiz were you being interrogated or were they talking tio you after pulling you over. Cause they can be alright and nice on a street stop but if they brought you in for a crime and suspect it's you but dont have enough evidence they go hard on you and try tio verbally beat you into submission hoping to crack you.

Samuel Ortiz may I ask what skin tone you are

@Properly Gaming good thing you don't have to say shit and just call a lawyer

Samuel Ortiz well he’s really it’s with detective not cops they are the other way around

65% true

@Samuel Ortiz I mean if you are well informed you do, but not everyone is informed they need to immediatley ask for a lawyer and shut your mouth guilty or not.

Detectives, not cops. A nice cop is usually preferred over a prick during a traffic stop.

@Properly Gaming always observe the right to remain silent... especially if you really fuck up.

Liza Tanzawa what has blm done?

You clearly don’t have law enforcement experience.

ibliss Then why are they nice to me, a black mixed female?

@Liza Tanzawa yes they are soooo important. Look at all the good they've done for blacks! /s

They don't have your best interests in mind.

Never, ever talk to cops without a lawyer present

@Samuel Ortiz "we have cable" solid reply

Garrett Emrick yes

You don't use a semicolon in that sentence. You use a comma.

@Jack Mehoffer how do you get a lawyer? Youall talk like they grow out of the ground after the rain

@Samuel Ortiz Same, even when it wasn't in passing. I even had a cop shave off some of my speed when I was speeding so I wouldn't have extra problems on top of the ticket.

@Oleg de Papa how do you get a lawyer? You look at the cop and say..."lawyer"

@Liza Tanzawa only, it's decisively NOT necessary. In fact, the entire organization is based on a lie and is founded and run by Marxists.

@Oleg de Papa what you absolutely do not do after a shooting like this is sit blabbing with a cop. First thing out of your mouth needs to be "I need medical attention" ....anything at all you say after that a lawyer can say was under duress.

@Jack Mehoffer lol

@Jack Mehoffer thats the magic word? And the lawyer will pop out of the lamp and grant my three wishes?

@Oleg de Papa he will certainly keep you out of a 20 year jail sentence. You only ever should use 2 sentences with Cops...1) "I need medical attention" and 2) "I intend to fully cooperate with your investigation officer as soon as I have my lawyer present"

Jack Mehoffer facts.

Oleg de Papa ..you don’t, but yes trust me lawyers pretty much do grow on trees these days lol there r more than enough out there and I’m sure many, many competent ones if you may ever need one hopefully not tho.. too many lawyers to even choose from and they all want your business lol so anyways all I’m saying is only a fool would go talk to the cops thinking they’re smarter than them, without a lawyer present. Cuz If you’re like me and the common person then you probably don’t know ALL of your rights and the laws and also cops are allowed to lie to you, so it’s just not smart. Get a lawyer. They OBVIOUSLY don’t want to screw you over like a cop/detective would or trick you. They WANT you to win because that’s their job and it’s their reputation on the line.. understand?

Samuel Ortiz this is the best reply I’ve seen to a joke in the entirety of all youtube comments

@Properly Gaming makes no mistake about it, when you get pulled over the cops are actually interrogating you from thr first to last words spoken.

@aunt jenifer they wanna catch you slipping but they aren't going in for a confession because they don't have a specific crime they think you have committed other then you speeding or having something wrong with your vehicle most times.

This guy thinks by calling the interrogators "brother" and "dude" and "man" and using military sounding language like "NEGATIVE" he will be seen as relatable.

Ah okay..................................NURSE!!

@Dianna Grady what?

They are all racist thats most likely. They probably didn't care.

@Kyle Miller Pardon me but I wanted to understand your answer better. What?

@Samuel Ortiz I beat someone up that pulled a knife out on me an the guy that pulled the knife out phoned the police and said I beat him up then pulled a knife out on him. They were such arse holes to me in the interrogation room and kept telling me they saw the cctv and they knew that I beat him up and pulled the knife out, I shit my pants thinking I'm going to go down for years in prison but I found out they had absolutely no evidence on me at all. The guy I "pulled the knife out on" also ended up with a hash wound to his hand and apparently I did that, that's how pathetic and desperate the case was.

He did something wrong , very wrong but I don’t think he’s a bad man.

Samuel Ortiz 😹 and TikTok ive seen

Haha, right!

michael boultinghouse like my boy Mike Ehrmantraut.

Nope

@Samuel Ortiz you in prison yet in contact with anyone from around the world? Wtf

@Liza Tanzawa I stayed for the cable. Shark week was awesome.

Sooo always get a lawyer lmao

Bingo

😂😂😂😂😂

Or white

@Da Bossoh, right!
I didn't pass road test. I had the learner's permit, and was in process of achieving driver's license.
I was young at the time, not exactly best idea, but the outcome could have been way worse! Imo

i disagree ive had a few encounters where cops where nice to me and ive never been to jail
ive been questioned like that twice

💡💡

ibliss blah blah

Garrett Emrick yes totally agree

If you speak without a lawyer

@Samuel Ortiz Let me guess, are you white? lol

@QingYun No I'm not. I'm just lucky that the only racists I have encountered are some liberals and a trump supporter outside of a store.

@Lucía Rehermann :D

Samuel Ortiz lmao

I been found sleeping in my car once with the engine on at a store that closed like 3 hours ago or something. They asked if I was drinking, and I said yes and showed them that I drunk a whole bottle of smirnoff vodka. They just drove me home. But I will be honest, I think one of them was part russian, so I think he understood.

@Lucía Rehermann 😆😆😆

If they start off with “Hey Buddy my name is Detective “ 😭

@RiverOfSouls Has everything to do with race. That's American society in a nutshell. Covert racism

They were really nice to me when I was a witness to a crime. though to be fair, the circumstances were such that there was always a 0% chance I was responsible for the crime.

Samuel Ortiz lmaoooooooo

@West Taiwan Oh yeah.... perfect advice. Nothing you say is helpful to YOU. Anything you say IS EVIDENCE, and will be used to put you away, even if you are innocent. If you have a lawyer, the lawyer can say anything needed, and none of it is EVIDENCE for anything. This is difficult to get across for many people. Imagine if he waited for a lawyer, the case would have gone differently.
Police are motivated to close cases, with overwhelming evidence. What a gift for the police. He completely destroyed his own defense, while offering his statement.
He identifies as being one "of the guys", like he was a fellow law enforcer. They let him believe that narrative, while they extracted every bit of evidence they needed.

@michael boultinghouse Deep state will drone both Antifa and militias.

Scary and funny but true

haha. you are right. God bless you

The unawareness is usually a side effect of privilege.

Oh ho!!! My friend bill is a cop and he's very nice. He even bought me a beer... I'm gonna be locked up for a long time

Cops: "Get on your stomach you piece of filth!!!!!!!!!"
Me: "Ahh, I'm safe!"

Yes, and no. they will try to make you think you're friends when trying to pry info, but when i went to jail when i was 17 they were pretty chill and all i did was get in trouble for drinking in public and being underage

@michael boultinghouse yeah if they are worried about the police, wait till they get rid of the police. They think that people in the suburbs are going to sit around while a mob surrounds the neighborhood? If there is truly no police groups like this will get massacred.

@michael boultinghouse I wonder if people don't ask for a lawyer because either they think they didn't do anything wrong or if they ask for one then they look guilty.

@West Taiwan omg, ALWAYS - say you are in the right, you NEED a lawyer so you have a defense in a wrongful death lawsuit or any other personal injury/dmg claims

@Samuel Ortiz 😂😂

if they let you smoke you go life no parole.

@ibyss Boring

@West Taiwan just say, SORRY IM TAKING MY RIGHT TO THE 5TH AMENDMENT AND I WISH TO REMAIN SILENT.

Let this be a lesson , do not park in handicap spot unless you have a plate. Handicap lives matter

Usually police conduct multiple avenues of enquiries and investigation which results in a lot of poeple being cleared of any involvement, not the other way around. This in turn makes the eventual evidence against the accused more concrete, as investigations have cleared all others.

WTF he’s not even in a parking spot himself.

Imma cry I laughed so hard at this

@Cat Are you a white woman?

@Advanced Monkey nope. My girlfriend is, and she has gotten in a lot more trouble than I ever have just cus she's an asshole to the cops. I am a colored male. All it takes is being honest with them. Im not saying rat yourself out if you don't have to, but if you're kind it goes a long way since most people are not.
I got pulled over doing 100mph on the freeway and I was honest about the reason why, and got let go without a ticket. I've been caught with drug paraphernalia. I used hard drugs for 8 years.
All cops are not bad. Most are good people.

@Samuel Ortiz where are you headed? where are you coming from? you got ID? We got a call. I was in fear for my life. Where's your handicap placard? Not in that order.

Yeah I’ve noticed that just from this channel. When they start offer drinks and saying take your time and acting like they believe you. You’re fucked. What I don’t get is why none of these people ever have lawyers. ?

Just get a lawyer and you'll be fine.

yeah, so if i am put in this situation i sjuld just piss them off

this shoulda been pinned on every video

If you dont want to get shot dont cone out and go shoving people to the ground

for real, don't talk to cops talk to your lawyer even when you're innocent.

@ibyss true, because if you are white you are racist But if you are a minority you are an angel, how stupid is that?

Im the woman in the back at 44:05

@michael boultinghouse So in the USA there are psychos who believe in marxism/comunism taking over the press...we have this type here in Brazil too...and also we have the same kind of lunatic president. Where the hell these folks came from?

@mychannel302 Oh yeah..the public/press are guilty...the jerk who unloaded his gun during that altercation is waaay inocent to be blamed, right?

@ibyss, I always wondered how sad it must be to someone with so little substance and intelligence, that all you ever contribute is racism.

@A Guy Named Something lived experience holds more water than mainstream media.

@Lucía Rehermann they're still building a case against him. He better lawyer up now.

Yup i am a recovering addict... ive been arrested twice. Second time they offered me a cigarette and i was like “FUUUUUUCKKKKK.” Usually you could BEG and they wouldnt give you one but they offered lol. Bd sign trust me.

@K B D 2586 indeed. I'm glad you're covering. Keep it up. Get your self sorted out and stick with it.

@Jack Mehoffer Although some people do, you should never speak to police before a trial, even with a lawyer present. Waiting until trial forces them to provide any evidence they will use against you which gives you a big advantage and you won't lock yourself into a story early. A good lawyer won't let you speak to the police even if they are present

Lol

@JS yeah, very true, sadly. I've just been very lucky and never had a bad experience with a police officer. Plenty of encounters with them..

@michael boultinghouse no

*prison

After reading this:
Cop: Do you want a soda?
Subscriber: Oh no, I am flipping done 😭

@ibyss exactly

@BaDaBoom wtf?

😂😂😂

@West Taiwan this the most true shit i’ve ever seen
people think it’ll make them look innocent if they talk to the cops without a lawyer but it’s never a good idea

@sky the weeb even if you don't feel like they think you did something. If you're still in custody, you're involved and anything you say might make you a suspect, either in the current crime or another.

@ibyss ignorant comment. lol

true dat, they prolly happy they wrapped up the case

No true at all

U got that sht right

Have you seen Jeff :D

or you're white

13k likes? You gotta give the good ones out there alot of credit. I'd probably end up being a dick. I mean, I've had more uneventful experiences with them than frustrating ones.. and I've been arrested like 4 times.

@Nicholi Larson there are no good cops

@Gwen well we didn't just decide we needed law enforcement for no reason one day. There might need to be a harder vetting process, because you definitely don't need bad cops; but there are some good honest people out there.

@Nicholi Larson the police in the united states started as a force to capture runaway slaves.

@Nicholi Larson they protect the powerful and keep minorities in line

Nice, mean ... or indifferent ... there is BIG money in arrests. We don't pour hundred$ of billion$ into the just us system for nothing.

@Toby Nixon right their job was made easy by the CCTV footage. You could hear the disgust In the sheriff's voice.

@Samuel Ortiz 🤣

@Tais's Tea Sad day in america. That man reacted how my father would of reacted. Nobody talks to my mom like she is below them.

😂

@Samuel Ortiz they always talk sweet to snitches 😂

Right?

Or your a white middle aged man....

The entire world seems to need an indifferent law enforcement system. Any part our law enforcement played in capturing slaves is despicable. Since I am a white fella, I can't put myself in black people's shoes, it's hard to grasp the thought of my whole race having been through what black folks have. If a white cop doesn't have the guts or the brains to treat a situation the same because of skin color, then he's a bad cop. There ain't no place in an impartial system for any of that. Then the ones influenced by greed can't be a part of it either. Im not saying that alot of change doesn't have to happen. I dang sure believe that humans have been around long enough to understand there's gotta be some law out there, and punishment for breaking it. People are to ruthless and selfish to go without it. Especially if they're scared. Sometimes it takes an actual damn war. The people with enough character to be a good cop are important. That doesn't make me some kind of rat.. you're stupid if you go around snitchin and you ain't a cop.

@ibyss without doubt

I've never talked to the cops before. But from watching these the angrier they are the more they need what the criminal isnt saying.

@Katrina Punkari especially if you're gonna do the dance and find yourself caught.. it's just not something you do. For a couple reasons. There's something else to be said about seeing something serious and being called as a witness. It'd have to be very serious for me not to feel very uncomfortable. That's part of what makes a cops job hard, they have to be prepared that people don't like divulging a whole bunch of stuff to the law. There might be some ripple effect that bites even an innocent person in the ass.

@Toby Nixon that makes no sense, when they have no evidence they are very careful, the person can stop talking at any time and ask for a lawyer. Once they already got incriminating proof they get more agressive

i have just met the nicest cops ever last week. They took my identity just to "check". I now know that they were reporting me and my father to an nature enviromental agency for fliying on our paragliders over some tree line. Yesterday i realized that we got fined with 450euros each...

@sergio urquijo I went to jail when I was 22 for a dui. I was drunk as shit nearly passed out in the side yard 50 feet from the car with the keys thown in the field somewhere.. way inside the property line when the cop pulled up. I told him I was on my property.. he shined his light on the tracks in the grass and said "that's how I know you were driving..". 12 hours in the drunk tank, and 500 bucks for a lawyer to write a letter to the judge and it was dropped. This guy just got mad at me and decided I was gonna get a DUI. People get stuck with that crap. There can't be cops like that, but people can't just be free to drive hammered either.

Either that or you're a white man.

Cops are nice to me

But that's probably because I'm nice

@Samuel Ortiz same here. I some times toss in a complement or two.

@Samuel Ortiz Then you don't get out much fella. That is for damn sure. Out of the 20 or so times I have had to interact with the police, in my 50 years of life, about 3/4 of them have been officers being overly assertive to outright bullying. Verbal abuse is pretty common.

Not true for me personally

@ibyss doing the race card... smh

😂 lol so true

This comment with the posters pic that looks like a mug shot 😂

Yep! When their mad its because they don't have enough evidence to convict you! And when there nice they have all the evidence that they need.

I've been to court, judges are like this too - but for a different reason. My lawyer said the reason they are being mean is because they aren't going to send you to jail but are still trying to send a message and really make you to reflect on your actions because they know it was a mistake and not a severe crime. On the flip side, if it's just a career criminal and what they did was evil, the judges don't waste their breathe.

@ibyss Im black and any cop ive ever dealt with or have been arrested by was never a prick to me or most people I know that are also POC. With 90% of cops, if you show respect and act in a calm manner, you will recieve the same treatment, too many of our people think they can disrespect cops and talk to them like assholes and get surprised when they get the same treatment and wanna cry about race....smh watch a few episodes of Live PD and see how everyone is treated equal instead of victimizing yourself, brother, elevate your thinking snd stop trying to paint yourself as a victim

ikr xD. He's singing like a canary, he thinks the cops are there to help him get off the hook

@Toby Nixon From experience, I can confirm this. Angry cops will swarm you, play mind tricks (lying), and theaten you (id est "we're gonna get dogs, or a warrant"), but eventually they just have to let you go because you refuse to admit to something you didn't even do ROFL. 😹

it's funny now, but at the time it was very nerve racking even though I knew I was innocent

@Samuel Ortiz This is true xD. It's one of the worst/best parts of the experience

@West Taiwan Lol people don't get how the judicial system works.

@Professional Hater Well mom raised you right then!!! You are a model citizen if you’re polite and just yes sir no sir them. I’ve had some crappy experiences as a teen with cops calling me all types of slurs. My experience before that was positive I even had a great officer who would take our skipping school asses back to school with McDonald’s breakfast. But most recently during the lockdown I was almost ran off the road by 2 cops who wouldn’t even pull me over but sandwich me into the guardrail. One riding my tail at a slow speed (50mph, HW limit is 55) and one on my left. But I don’t hold that against all cops. Like all humans there are good ones and a s s h o l e s.

@wivuyao what do you mean?

@Samuel Ortiz 😂

@WhiskeyRick literally interrogation 101 nice cops are worse than good cop/bad cop

😂😂😂

@ibyss race has nothing to do with it

@ibyss Thanks for the generalization.

That's not true at all. Do you think cops behave like assholes to people who are innocent? What's the logic here :D

@Samuel Ortiz and youtube apparently

Lol would ya like a cup of sink water w ur 25 years good sir?!

@jes nemo there’s a reason it’s called the prison industrial complex

or it means that you're white

@ibyss i was about to say that XD

Madness is Sadness tattoo 👿👹

This seems to be the case, I noticed.

Lucía Rehermann 😆

That's not true. When I had to use lethal force in a self defense situation the cops and the detectives were very nice and sympathetic towards me.

It’s a technique we use 🙃 it works every well getting people to admit everything lol

If the cops want to boost your confidence and act stupid like they’re believing your story you should be more aware because they’re waiting for you to incriminate yourself.

He got 20 years

Or you're white.

@AK Ken if you pan through that is the number one comment posted........

I can definitely agree with that.

@WhiskeyRick you're looking at a joke, sir

You arent wrong

@Samuel Ortiz on a traffic stop or you ever been up on charges?

Idk why I laughed but it felt good lol

Exactly

This guy is a timebonb.

@mychannel302 power to the people

@mychannel302 thank god

Well, they might also want to date you because you’re handsome.

So fucking true

@Lotus8 which one?

@Samuel Ortiz .

A detective bought me a soda and a bag of chips. Two and a half years later, I was out of prison.

It's called "massaging" when they act all nice and try to be your friend! lol

@Clee Boy I'd ask for a piece of paper and a pen with them thinking I'm going to write a statement. I'd write L-A-W-Y-E-R and push it back to them. lol

its an integrating room they dont act rude they r chill so the suspect doesnt get mad or feel any type of way to not answer questions so in this room they are nice to him for a reason

Lmfaooooo

@Lucía Rehermann 😂😂😂💀

As soon as the cops starting acting nice and ask for permission to use each other’s first names... it’s over ..

😭😭😭😭😭😭

Cops actually took his side and refused to charge him until public pressure mounted.

yes, if cops are being nice to you and being pals with you. be worried, because they're getting what they want out of you.

​@Blu Peppers in the UK, they read tyour rights which are "You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence". Plenty of prosecutors have use defendants being silent and emotionless when asked about serious crimes commited against a person as an indication of their guilt on involvement.

@wivuyao when you have cops playing the good cop. you're either a saint, or youre fucked.

Exactly

The cops say they're trying to help you oh, yeah I trying to help you go to jail

@Grimshaw Grummage If I'm ever in trouble, I'll remember this wisdom you shared in your comment.

Why

😂😂😂😂

Nah man I've had cops be nice to me plenty

@Hazed When you were detained and being questioned for murder, though?

@Lucía Rehermann Ha! 😂

@Samuel Ortiz can I put a couple bucks on your books...?

@michael boultinghouse gay

Never talk to cops.

Lol true but also sometimes they're just glad you're respectful. We gotta appreciate the good cops if we ever want more to come.

Good observation

Hahaha true, thats what ive noticed watching this channel 😂

Am I the only one who comes into these replies to see if anyone else has mentioned the very strange use of a semi colon in the original comment

🤣🤣🤣🤣

No, theyre being nice to him because he killed a black man

or you're white

@Samuel Ortiz, thank you. A lot of people just need to change their behavior.

... either that or you're white.

@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven ur cute

@Samuel Ortiz sports and news overrule

@tony F yes there is in BOP. we had TRULINCS. a limited email service
but I have heard there are 4 that have complete internet access but VERY HEAVILY monitored. meaning teamviewer realtime type of monitoring

That makes no sense

didnt see that way, now that you say....

O

Yeah and prolly because your giving them everything they need by telling on you self the whole time.

Yeah, in my experience you don't get much conversation in the initial contact. Just a few questions to set context, and these days they're pretty brusque. If they're being buddy buddy or more than standard polite, then they're setting the scene.

No matter how nice though, and no matter whether you're innocent or not, shut your piehole and ask for legal representation! Plenty of innocent people get locked up because they thought they were chatting to a buddy at the bar and thought that being helpful was the right thing to do as they walk into a dozen traps they didn't see coming, and incriminate themselves for a crime they didn't commit.

or ur white

That’s one thing I’ve learned watching these. Seems if they are calm it’s cuz they already know how this is going to end...

He'll yeah lmao

@Samuel Ortiz lmaooooo

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ive been told by a family that was a long time officer, even he told me never talk to the cops, tell them they have to talk to your attorney!

dang everything he said rly was used against him in a court of law

how would we ever have known that that would happen

Truff

Or you’re about to keep your big mouth shut, but that just about never happens.

Because they’re tryna make you slip up your words

@metalgirl 84 you white?

@Samuel Ortiz that made me laugh thank you

@Samuel Ortiz LMAO

@He's got A Motor damn straight I would

Or you're white

how did they know I was planning on taking over the world (for legal reasons this is a joke)

i really don't think they were being deceptive early on. being white and a legal gun owner will get you a long way in a lot ofsouthern police departments. luckily this guy was on camera and they had enough time to look at the video before interrogating him to catch him in all of his lies. also lucky this didn't take place 50 years ago, or might have gone home that night.

It’s reverse psychology. Gets them to talk to make the confession or what they want easier.

@Samuel Ortiz LOL STOP😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

ic

🤣🤣🤣

@Toby Nixon like how they acted with jeff

@jes nemo wow that is so disgusting

@tony F yea man a lot of jails give the inmates tablets and shi with WiFi

@michael boultinghouse r/ihadastroke

Pretty much

or you’re just white

@Samuel Ortiz comedy genius xD

@H Sharma dont start that racist crap frfr

I guess they can’t come off aggressive to get answers

@ibyss here we go again .

Yep but you can cut a bunch of years off your sentence by shutting up.

Cops talking to a witness: WHY DID THEY DO IT slap

@West Taiwan for real, this whole, helping the police solve a case is bogus. You can help the police with a lawyer present who can save you helping them to a wrong conviction.

@Samuel Ortiz 🤣😭😂

That part lol and if they say "sit tight" you is not sitting tight lol

The correct use of a semi-colon is to separate two independent clauses and not a dependent clause and an independent clause as that is what a comma is for.

@Samuel Ortiz Were you ever in suspicion of murder ?....

Facts!!

Truer words are rarely spoken

@He's got A Motor And those Americans are well aware that if they shoot an innocent person for no good reason, they’re going to jail for a long time. Just like how if someone robs a house they’re well aware that they’re breaking the law and that the house owner may have a gun to defend themselves

that’s such a good fucking point.

@Samuel Ortiz are you white passing ?

True I’ve noticed that myself . Binge watching these videos 😏

because kindness exhibits honesty and cooperation. if they’re being rude and raising their voice they want you to fold under pressure

The first four replies lmaooo

Ain't that the truth 😂 if you're in custody & there being nice, not that I've ever been in enough trouble to find out

@Samuel Ortiz the difference is were you being questioned, at the station or in custody? That rights thing we think we have...not so much.

Or you're white. Cops are nice to you if you have just murdered people , if you're white. (Kyle Rittenhouse)

Good... its a tactic so the guy trusts them..he'll talk more when he's comfortable

@Samuel Ortiz 😂😂

@ibyss ah yes bring race into something that has nothing to do with race

Lol true

@sticks andDynamite oh yeah all my personal problems like institutional racism, police brutality, white supremacy, and american imperialism

@ibyss Then you haven't dealt with them.

Or they'll buy you Burger King.

@In Out Door if you're white

Fucking Right lol

That’s not true EVEN A LITTLE BIT,
Cops & detectives are 2 VERY diff things also.

@Samuel Ortiz u a criminal just when u say every cop u talk to ?

the little kid whos parents just died in a car crash 😥

@West Taiwan specially if you are innocent

I was blind sided by their niceness after binge watching a few vids in this channel... Now it all makes sense.

They let him go that same day.

@West Taiwan get a lawyer for everything, even minor traffic tickets fight them use services such as off the record

@Toby Nixon likes the video where they wrongly arrest some black dude for a jewelry store robbery. And the detectives were lying to him and this fucking Chad of a man gave off the most dominant body language and laughing in the cops face lol

@Samuel Ortiz were you being interrogated for possible murder or getting a traffic ticket?

Well... most people are nice to you if they need something. And officers rarely want something more than confession from right man

💯, when the police r being belligerent they’re trying to get u to give them a case

Good call...

@Lucía Rehermann 🤣🤣🤣

@metalgirl 84 some are just guys doing a job. Some are ex soldiers with ptsd that just want to kill again

yeah if you’re white

@Samuel Ortiz Nevermind, I don’t have cable. I’m coming in so make a space for me

Well, that’s not ALWAYS true. Sometimes cops can be nice when gather witness testimony. But if they read your rights to remain silent and then are acting nice to you, yeah you are in trouble.

@Samuel Ortiz nice

@Tais's Tea who physically attacked him

Every cop in uk I've spoke to are never nice ,especially wen they know one is innocent , but then frame one

I'm a Christian and my 18 year old is going to be a PA 👍🏻

@Lucía Rehermann that comeback 😂😂😂

False, but sounds like someone has done some illegal shit and is waiting for the cops to arrive

@West Taiwan No damn doubt👍👊

@Lucía Rehermann lol😂😂

nah they’re just being nice cause he’s WHITE

@Samuel Ortiz 😂😂😂😂😂😂

that's an affirmative

@sky the weeb There's a great video on youtube of law professor James Duane giving a speech explaining why you should never give consent to any police interrogation or interviews without an attorney present, under any circumstances.

False

Liar

Shit I can see her from here

There’s tons of spots you killed a father for nothing

Dude should have got a lawyer right off the bat

@Tais's Tea for murdering a violent bully* they're both perps

@Samuel Ortiz What are you in for?

@Samuel Ortiz lol you’re a cop huh?

Yes sir, you nailed it

Facts! The nicer they are the longer you are going away!!!

fairly reliable rule of thumb

@Prettysag510 have you never seen any of jcs's vids before??? they are being nice as an interrogation tactic. be ignorant and racist though, im not gonna stop you.

If you’re lawyer is trying to argue that the surveillance footage is grainy you’re most likely going to jail for a long time.

Or its a way of getting info
Of course theres the force. like raising your voice, getting 'hostile'
Then I think being nice is sometimes a tactic. Make them feel safe, make them trus tyou and such.

@Kevin Alrigieri what I’ve learned, get a lawyer

dude should have had a lawyer. never talk to police - they are there to pin crimes on people if possible. thats the sad truth - but they need to do that dirty job, coz the weak need to be protected from bad guys (like the big guy assaulting that old man from behind no less).

Lol

@Lucía Rehermann 🤣💦🤣

@Samuel Ortiz 🤣💦🤣

@Battalon 🤔

Cops are always nice to me! I should be worried!

@*username* purple. At least a bit of me is

@He's got A Motor that's ignorant. I carry a gun and I hope I never have to use it on any living being.

Never talk to the cops in this situation. Always ask for lawyer for the get go.

any last words, my dear and beatiful sir?

@Samuel Ortiz lol :)

@Samuel Ortiz LMFAOOO you funny 😭

@michael boultinghouse and in the event they do not accept that answer you may also provide an alternate answer - ATTORNEY

Or your white

The sheriff's office refused to prosecute him, though. Because in America, shooting people over a parking lot argument is seem as perfectly acceptable by some people.

He used excessive force.

Violence is not a solution.

Always video record confrontations.

Holy shit, facts.

@Toby Nixon STEPHEEEEEENNNN

@West Taiwan this. If you are in an interrogation room at all, you are a suspect.

@jes nemo Really? Because the people I know have smart phones in there. Doesn’t seem to matter how much their access is limited.

@Thomas Flores it really was a simple question, YOU are making it into a bigger deal. Why does everyone hate POCs bringing up race when it is the reality of our existence, yall say that because you don’t live in. We see it in everything and yes, 90% of the time we are treated differently because of it. It’s like you guys just refuse to see facts

@*username* 90% is not a real number. You see things the way you want to see them. Everyone does. “Life’s what you make it” I believe is the saying. I know plenty of PoC that would say that their race has not been an obstacle in their life of any kind, and another, in the same community that cannot even talk to some PoC because they don’t feel like they understand their struggles. Doesn’t seem to matter that they’re both black. Their experiences were completely different. That’s why you can’t say “the reality of OUR existence” there is no OUR, there is no shared experience other than the one you create by making a series of comparisons. But that’s not reality. Reality is there are a million things at play that create just one persons positive or negative experiences, to pile them all up and throw a big race blanket over them like that’s the simple explanation that outweighs all the other million factors at play, is shortsighted, and small minded. Every race doesn’t have its own separate cookie cutter life that ever member of that group gets the same cookie.

@Thomas Flores we don’t throw a race blanket over everything, there are times when it is just obvious a person he racial biases. It’s kind of disgusting that you, as a none poc would try and undermine and experience you have never been through. I wouldn’t talk about how easy or difficult it is for a white man because I’ve never lived their life. There are certain instances were a spade is just a fucking spade man. Don’t come here and try act like institutional racism isn’t a thing, yes racism has improved and isn’t overt especially in any kind of legal case. It is a FACT (proven so argue with yourself) that black men are prosecuted 4 times the amount of white men. I live in the uk

You have a cute smile, but yes I agree with your statement.

@Samuel Ortiz and YouTube?

@West Taiwan that’s great advice though, because the most time you need one is when you’re innocent.

@Infernal Gate I made minute rice under a minute

@Blake Pls bring chips we ran out yesterday

This is not the proper use of a semicolon. Both clauses need to be independent.

Yessir definitely because they’re satisfied with the evidence

I never had a nice cop when getting a ticket so far.

@West Taiwan facts

true

@michael boultinghouse your talk is exactly why this nation is screwed

@Samuel Ortiz 💀

I guess our school police officers hate me.

Are you people serious!? Listen, I am liberal for the most part. I do think everyone has the right to own a gun tho. But wrong is wrong.

The black guy assaulted the guy first! The white guy was just talking and didn't do anything illegal.

You can say he was annoying or whatever but he didn't assault anyone. It's a free country. First ammendment. Say what you want but when you put your hands on someone and push them that hard to the ground, I no longer view you as the victim but the aggressor.

The black guy only retreated after he saw the gun pointed at him. It didn't matter if he was walking back at that point. The crime of assault was already committed. I am tired of my fellow liberals defending the suspects and victims of police violence no matter what they do. Resisting arrest, punching and cop, driving away, etc.

No one deserves to die for it but obey the law! Don't assault someone. Period. I dont feel bad for the guy who got killed in this situation at all. His girlfriend said, do I need to go get my man. They were the aggressors. The white guy was just annoying and nosy. But they were parked in the handicap parking spot which is also ILLEGAL!!!

@Milky Way so you think a push, deserves a gunshot? Not very liberal of you. Yes, don't push people. But also don't escalate the level of violence by shooting someone! Being a jerk isn't illegal. Murder is. Even though he was guilty of assault, he wouldn't have been give a death penalty, like he basically got. The other guy killed him, and was basically fine himself! The fact that they all were aggressors is not the point! You can get up from a shove, we can't bring back a life!

@Sarah Abramova So you think we have a 2nd amendment just to use against people who threaten us who also have a gun?

So if someone breaks into your home in the middle of the night and you don't know if they have a gun, what should you do...take a chance and pat them down first or ask them if they have a gun before opening fire??

Real life situations happen with 3 seconds like this incident. That wasn't a light push. He took a running start and pushed as hard as he could AND HE WALKED UP ON HIM, PULLED UP HIS SHORTS READY TO FIGHT ONCE HE GOT BACK UP....THAT IS THE PART THAT JUSTIFIES USING THE GUN.

I am so tired of others liberal defending everything the "victim" does. Literally everything. It is just as bad as Trump and his supporters never admitting fault.

The mother and father should have known better! They acted like that in front of their kids. Call the cops. Use your words. Never get violent. And never park in a handicap spot especially when you got so many other spots right next to it!!! Smh. Those were not good law abiding citizens so stop it.

@Milky Way you're using strawman arguments.

@Milky Way nothing indicated he would continue, you saw the video.

@Milky Way if two people are fighting, and one has a weapon, guess who's more dangerous? If he just held it, it would've been fine. But he shot.

@Milky Way also, logically speaking, if the black guy was aiming to kill, then why just push him if he did have a gun, stretching your already ridiculous hypothetical scenario? This guy had a gun, and it was his opening move.

@Milky Way and it's not defending the victim at all. It's berating the killer. Learn the difference.

@Milky Way literally everyone did something wrong, but only one guy is going to jail because that's the one that lived.

@Milky Way there is a difference between defending a person, and saying someone took things too far. THAT'S what we're saying. Grow up if you don't understand that. We aren't grade schoolers. We're adults, it's time for you to learn some nuance.

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Lol true

Well it's either your a suspect or your not

true statement. I’ve been interrogated before for something I didn’t do and I think they knew this but still tried to see what was up with me and oh boy were they rude.

@BaDaBoom lmao thank you. You’re hilarious.

in israel it"s the other way around .... hahahahaha our police force detectives have alot to learn from you guys

Or you’re white.

That's highest number of likes I have ever seen on a comment

Lol I mean, interrogators*. Cops are always friendly

Yup... I would go to the bathroom in my pants on purpose and ask for 2 lawyers

At 20:25 is probably the most important point. He provoked a confrontation know he was protected without consideration for the other party”. This is the kind of guy I hate. He wanted to use his weapon he wanted to shoot someone that was trying to look after his loved one. Regardless of the parking situation

@ibyss u just pissed off a lot of white folks lmao

or ur just white

@Properly Gaming I was in a fairly bad situation once and I’ve could have gotten up to 10 year in prison and a 5000€ fine but the cops were genuinely nice to me they drove me back home gave me tea and talked to me for a bit I ended up getting everything sorted and I didn’t get a criminal record and I’m not planning to ever get one

And if they tell you that you can call them George you are facing a minimum 11 years for sure!

Yuo

they're only being nice to somebody bcuz they want and need information now if you notice they will be nice as long as they're getting what they want if they don't they get really pissed off. I always believe keeping your mouth shut and lawyering up is your best bet.even tho you won't get treated very nice and you're probly going to jail it's the best choice in the long run.

This is the only comment that makes sense. Our world needs more people like you

lmao

That sentence doesn't imply he hasn't been getting hit over the years. He just hasn't experienced a hit like that since his 20s.

Don't blame him for drawing his weapon if that's the case.

Nice attempt on the manipulation of his words though

@Rob Oc cry me a river

@Victoria Pitts Nah I'm good hunny, I'll stick to correcting people's atrocious reading/listening comprehension

Great comment!

Yep just anger

Attacker or defender

@Independence Boyd in this case looks like he is not the attacker but he clearly went beyond the self-defense and when he said "this is my shop" and so on that may prove he wanted to be in charge, have control etc. and made him going beyond the self-defense, but there is always a doubt

@Sjwaria Law I agree

@Os ikr. It’s insane how stupid some of these comments can get.

@Os why is that?

@submosphere u r right

@Adam Raciecki I really hope you aren’t serious

That is a tough one. You can not pull a weapon unless you are you in fear of your life. And you should pull out or discharge a weapon to scare someone or let off "warning shots". No brandishing.

@Louis McCaII "unless you are you in fear of your life", he was in fear of his life so he pulled a weapon, how about this?

@Adam Raciecki you completely missed the point. You’re not supposed to point a weapon unless you intend to shoot. In his mind, he could be correct in his immediate reaction. My point is not the end result of the case, my point is you should never take a weapon out unless you plan to use it. What happens in the split second between the weapon being removed from its holster and being fired is the debatable portion but leading up to that it’s reasonable to believe you should not simply point a gun unless you intend to use it to stop one’s behavior.

@Louis McCaII ok, I understand but let me flip a bit the assessment of the situation here, do you think removing a gun from the holster (but not firing it) would've been justified in that man's case?

@Adam Raciecki Yes. Unique state statutes aside, I do not see the issue with defending yourself in a tense scenario where you are blindsided, only to see a younger and stronger aggressor. The issue here is pointing the weapon as that would mean a greater level of threat is indeed in front of you. Pointing, coupled with hesitation makes one wonder about the nature of the threat as this was not necessary a split second decision. Basic legal counsel would have had a profound outcome.

@Louis McCaII Thank you very much for the explanation.

@rudy falcone Conflating two issues. No one is saying the guy was right, but it’s not completely unreasonable and the hardest thing to prove is intent so you have no idea what could’ve happened in that scenario.

@rudy falcone I'm glad too

@submosphere That's a lie. The video clearly shows the attacker still moving forward after this guy got pushed on the ground. He was never "turning to go back to the store". He only started moving back when he realized he was armed. Which makes his testimony actually true ; the attacker did move forward while he was picking up his gun, he just clearly backed out afterwards

@V Vey I'm not going to argue with dumb people, the argument will never end if I do.

@Adam Raciecki you don't shoot people "just in case" when they display no life threatening qualities. If you get pushed tell your ego and small pp to calm down and not pull a trigger, maybe hit the gym more so you don't go flying like this man did.

@JordanDrukqsz correct

@Shane Allder u r right

@ben colbert exactly

you say, safely behind your monitor

@ben colbert 10 ft is literally less then 2 seconds worth of movement

@Skup Ire average human reaction time is about .3 seconds. He already had his weapon out and aimed. He was in that position for 2.5 seconds before he decided to fire.

@Skup Ire this also wasn't some wild wild west quick draw match. The other guy did not have a weapon present, so there was no imminent danger after his weapon was out and in position to fire.

@ben colbert damn, a whole 2.5 seconds. and that reaction time your quoting is superhuman, maybe if you count flinching with absolutely no conscious reaction id believe it was twice that

@Skup Ire well, all of us here are trying to judge this in the most objective way sitting behind monitors

what a detective you are lol

Adam Raciecki there was no reason in the first place for him to be doing what he did , period.

@KristapsJJ no, it would've been a total havoc, without jobs, no income from taxes, police as paid killers, mass killings, rapes and suicides, society collapsed

@Adam Raciecki "so he shot him just in case" Yeah that line of argument is manslaughter at best, murder at worst.

@Os I really hope he was joking... oh wait, he was

@Adam Raciecki still doesn’t justify it. I hope you don’t have a gun. And I’m not a liberal. You can just keep your gun on him... not pull the trigger as he’s backing up

@Louis McCaII I don’t think it’s legal to even fire a warning shot as you don’t know where that bullet will labd

@Jeremy Caulk there are no such things as warning shots. So that option is off the table, leaving doing nothing but stating you are alarmed or shooting to kill.

@Jeremy Caulk true, I don't have gun, and u r right

You say that with hindsight and not in the adrenaline rush “heat of the moment” that this man must have been feeling.

@JordanDrukqsz no amount of training in the gym would prepare you for getting blindsided like that. Your ass is going on the ground I don’t care who you are

@JordanDrukqsz or maybe people shouldn't assault other people. You think the guy shoves him to the ground if he knew he had a gun on him? I dont think so.

Yeah withdrawing to get a glock in his glove compartment lmfao gtfo

@Adam Raciecki Lol yeah cuz he would definitely walk away to just come back and grab his gun 😐

@Adam Raciecki PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING

Shouldn't have attacked him in the first place play stupid games win stupid prizes he's dead other guys in prison only real loser in this is the man's kid

I wonder if you apply that same mind set to government agents

ty sherlock

What justified the aggressor to assault the victim in the first place? The most common cause of death in street assaults is hitting your head on the concrete when the criminal knocks you down. What is wrong with shooting someone who just tried to murder you?

@GrvYrdRose - if you can risk killing someone for what they're saying, what can you do to someone if they risk killing you?

If he just wouldve kept a cool head then the other guy wouldve went to jail. Wouldve gotten right back out, but still, would have definitely been arrested. More black people these days should watch this. Maybe they'll learn to not go straight to violence no matter how much they hate white people

@submosphere He was still facing him, as he got shot in the chest, derp. You don't know what he was saying. Could have been threatening him, anything... best to get a lawyer regardless

He was turning around though and you could clearly see that. "You don't know what he was saying." Well if he said something really bad that made him shoot, wouldn't you think that Micheal would have told us what he said? He wouldn't keep his mouth shut about it because that would help his case.

@Adam Raciecki yeah, guns are mostly used for intimidation, if he attacked him again it would've been justified, but the situation is almost like, you step on my toe, i break both your hands. its a good thing he got time, cause that shot wasn't in self-defense

@submosphere incorrect, before he pulled the weapon he was approaching him on the ground, halfway through the pull he stops and starts to back up.

@GrvYrdRose manslaughter not murder

@75ur15 Even if that is true, It still does not make sense why he shot him. He was backing up, therefore why take the shot?

@Adam Raciecki During his interrogation, he never gave any indication of being someone who genuinely feared for his life.

@Sans yeah but I'm a bit smashed now so who cares...

Attacker. Mans was pushed to the ground for shouting at a woman at a car for little to no reason. Pulled a gun and pulled the trigger on a man who pushed him. That's not eye for an eye. That's eye for a head

@Adam Raciecki bigot

@Christopher Darden u mean, i'm bigot?

Why is nobody mentioning the fact that the victim parked in a handicap spot?
Listen, I'm not justifying him being shot but I hate arrogant people who just think they can do anything they want - with an "IDGAF" attitude, such as parking in a disabled parking spot when they're not disabled. These types of people are scumbags.
He did not deserve to be shot over this but unfortunately, he crossed somebody who was a little more arrogant than him that day and paid the consequences.
Sorry but both the suspect and the victim can kiss my *

@pistol pete who cares what you think

@Sam Donohoe he saw a man swearing and yelling at his wife. i would push the guy too.

@customsongmaker the man didnt try to kill michael. he tried to get him away from his wife, whomst he was yelling and swearing at over a PARKING SPOT. and he landed on his elbow. he then waited 2.5 seconds on the ground w his gun out whilst the victim was backing up. Oh and, just to trigger you some more, this was definitely a racially motivated killing. This case would not have existed if the woman and kids in the car were white, instead of black.

Or they shouldn't have illegally parked in a handicapped parking spot. The murder is wrong, but as a person who was in a wheelchair 19 years and now walks with crutches all the time I always applaud people berating people who aren't handicapped parking at these spots. He obviously took it too far. But not interfering wouldn't have prevented this any more than not parking there in the first place would have.

@alldamnnamesaretaken It was not a legal handicapped spot. It wasn't approved by the town. It didn't have the proper signage. The car was not illegally parked. Drejkas space was though

@alldamnnamesaretaken How would him not arguing with the woman have caused her boyfriend to attack him?

@alldamnnamesaretaken idiotic take. if you’re not law enforcement then don’t act like it. PERIOD. report the issue and go about your day, causing a scene and making an ass of yourself is never the way to go. it’s just a great way to make sure everyone loses.

@Victoria Pitts why are you ableist

@alldamnnamesaretaken apart from the fact that there is literally parking space all around them, the girl was literally in the car, if a handicapped person needed the space I'm sure she would've moved, either way the dude literally parked illegally taking even more space

Dude💀😭😂😂

Bro I had the same thought when he said hips 😂 you know they don’t lie!

Heey, hips don't lie...

More guns generally means less freedom, because it allows enforcers to equip themselves dramatically better. It’s why the Governor of Colorado got away with deploying tanks and surface to air missiles to break up a protest back in 2015. You probably didn’t even hear about that because it struck everyone as reasonable given some of the most prominent protesters were actual combat veterans and theoretically could have been armed (they weren’t).

The smug Megumin pfp makes this comment a dozen times funnier

@Joe Blow Why Is Every Word In Your Comment Capitalised

@Error 404 Titlecase, I Suppose.

Yet got 100$ bond, the system fails and fails

Yea actually absurd how big a ditch he dug just through acting pretentious. He's such a police wannabe it's insane. But the truth is just because you patrol and have a gun does not give you the right to use it...my god every time he said "negative" instead of "no" I vommed in my mouth a little lol

@Eric Borczuk This guy talks so arrogant, as you said with the negatives and the tough guy act, it makes me angry af, hes a perfect example of bad wannabe's.

@Greg Robinette yeah that dude wanted to say I’m so smart I really know what’s going on so bad that he ignores the fact that your comment is completely unrelated regardless of whether what he said is not is true there are still average people in society doing shit like this and getting arrested unless his point is anyone who does those crimes is in power which is pretty dumb.

@xXfunk36Xx your comment makes zero sense, I cant understand a thing your saying

He really thought the cops would be on his side.

I feel like he’s one of those guys who loves to play cop games and be the “good guy”

@Greg Robinette Yeah, he totally makes me want to neutralize him with a force multiplier.

@GrimeBot 3000 same

I see no justification in this shooting. He may or may not have been hit again , but I seriously doubt that he even thought his life was in danger .

The funny thing is a cop friend of mine has said interrogations now are all about letting the suspect talk. Let them talk long enough they’ll close the cell doors on themselves.

@Greg RobinetteA racist may get some justification, but they would have to invert theirselves into it because I don't see anything racial in this at all .

@Randy Bonner well its a white guy killing a black guy, racists will defend Drejka for the sole reason of "a black life was erased", Drejka is probably not a racist, he talks like the avg white supremacist, they are all soldier wannabes, but I mostly think Drejka acted on the delusion that he owned the parking spot

@Eric Borczuk agree...this guy thought he was in the lords army or sum shit.

He shouldve been given a medal... not jail time.

@ПIGΉƬMΛЯΣ hope youre joking, he commited a real crime

@Greg Robinette 100 dollars. Are you on crack🤣 a 100000 dollar bond equals out to 10000

@Robert Trujillo I'm not on crack, Idek why I said that, mustve meant 100,000

Wouldn't it be a prosecutor or attorney?
Not sarcasm, seriously asking.

@Tony from my minimal understanding, lawyer and attorney are the same, and prosecuter is the lawyer/attorney that is on the suing party.
Or maybe lawyer and attorney means defense only

@Greg Robinette thank you.

@Tony I'm talking about the suspect. He creates all the evidence for the prosecution and they don't even need to dig for anything. He pretty much handed everything to them. They could probably just show them the video of the incident and the interrogation and they would have had a guilty verdict.


Sorry for the confusion. I just realized that this guy is very vague and it could also be referring to the interrogator.

It's hilarious he was his own prosecutor

@GrimeBot 3000 nice 🤣

The sole purpose of ofc rehashing the incident @14:45 is to begin creating contradictions by inserting the police officers language to incriminate the defendant. Not the defendants words but a variation that he can further manipulate to the police officers criminal narrative. The product created with this technique is not the defendants statement but the Ofc narrative of a crime.

Never ever ever ever speak to a police officer. He is 100% of the time is going to lie. Don't speak at all let your lawyer speak at trial.

This isn't good police work this is scientifically designed deception. Carried out by a chud police officer patting himself on the back.

@Kaitensatsuma the inability to correctly articulate sentences put more people in prison than any police officer. The only thing this guy is guilty of is letting that officer feed him the cops narrative. Never ever speak to any government official even if you think you can help.

@Hairy Balling They didn't need him to contradict himself, there's video proof of him lying. His first recollection before he was asked to repeat it was a lie too, he insisted that his victim was about to "start finish what he started" when it shows him backing off once the gun is in view.

Then he started embellishing to make it sound like he was about to get jumped on by someone standing above him, "ready to charge".

The best or possibly worst part? When asked if he could change anything, anything at all there wasn't even a brief moment of "Well, I suppose I wish he hadn't died" coming across his mental state.

@Kaitensatsuma My dear, it is understandable that you believe this case turns on "His first recollection" which are your are your own words.

The defendant, incorrect or not is not the question. State of mind is determined by "his perception" not yours or a video tape. It is the state of mind of the defendant or more correctly stated, weather he has a guilty mind. That is what is punished in the US.

Is it reasonable for the defendant to react with his defense training to attacked from behind and violently knocked to the ground in a vulnerable position?

Well? Try attacking a police officer from behind and knocking him to the ground and see if he doesn't employ the exact same defense.

Was he civilly wrong? He could be possibly liable in civil court, criminally he isn't guilty because he believed what he recounted as his first impression. Catching someone wrong in their memory of events is not a crime or evidence of a crime.

​@Hairy Balling No sweetie, I don't believe that the case turned on his first recollection, that was something that you entirely implied on your own when you insisted that the, let's see, that the guy was guilty of "Letting the cops feed him his narrative" and that "The sole purpose of ofc rehashing the incident @14:45 is to begin creating contradictions by inserting the police officers language to incriminate the defendant." - Your words, not mine.

Now, that's an adorable misunderstanding of what happened in that video, it's so cute it's honestly something a little child would think of, like, again, they didn't have video evidence and reasonable case to make if the prosecutor wanted to take it up. I could just pinch your little cheeks.

Was this man a police officer? No
Did anyone argue that he didn't get assaulted? Also no
Did he, absent of any immediate threat to his life, use excessive force? Yes
Did he admit - with little additional questioning - that he was in a rational state of mind, capable of rational decision making? Also yes.

And that's the way the cookie crumbles! Did I argue that you are wrong about not talking to police? Of course not, the first thing he should have asked for was a lawyer.

Did he think he was enough of a Chad Pro-Police CCP license holder who read the USCCA website front to back? Seems like it.

Sweetheart

Poor guy. He thought he was only picking on a defenseless mother and her kids.

@Felipe Valencia by picking you mean objecting to their illegal activity in his community?

I checked the timer....this guy : https://youtu.be/hQAC2pPVu88 lasts exactly 7 seconds before incriminating himself in "to catch a predator" with Chris Hansen
he goes on to confess crime after crime after crime, because "[he] has a compulsion for young girls"

too funny!

Especially with all that bullshit his lawyer said about the camera quality, as if it was scratched and burned

it was reported he got beaten by a few black inmates and they stated "thats for your victim!" when the family heard, they said they never made a deal with anyone to hurt him. so yeah, hes walking around with a target on his back

watch the dead guy push the shooter first,break my heart too.

@舜帝 are you saying what the shooter did was justified?

@舜帝 so you think the shooter was in the right?

@Jules I think the Russia is wrong,for the same reason.

@Biaru i hear you, but there is a difference between pushing someone, and taking their life.. should he have full on shoved him? No. Does that in anyway justify the shooter for taking a man’s life? Absolutely not.

@舜帝 We learn from as young as kindergarten what the appropriate response to physical provocation is.
Hint; it's not murder.

The Convict humblebrag.

Wtf is humblebrag

@Mark Acklin It's when someone subtly brags about what they did and tries to sound humble while doing so.

Humblebrag!!! 🤣

@ProfessorBAG quite funny, I'm from U.K so that's unusual to me

...when someone humblebrags HIMSELF...

The Humblebrag Conviction

Absolutely! Like Micheal "fluid motion" Dunn. The definition of humblebrag fs.

Community refrence, shots!

@Mark Acklin I dont think that my comments are any good, but I get a lot of likes.

Amy Warren ugh, I just watched that one again last night. I can’t get over the fact that these two both referred to themselves as “the real victim here!” (This one by proxy).

Dunn did so repeatedly... in a phone call that he knows is being recorded, yet somehow he can’t help but keep saying shit like “they’re violent” and that he’s glad he’s not in a cell with “those animals”... you can just hear the grin in his voice. It’s sickening.

Stop! You made me spit my gum into my facemask! Hahah

YESSS perfect wording.. I think this is what makes him being charged and convicted even more satisfying

I knew from a few minutes in that he would be a serial pest thinking he's a police officer. I wonder how many times he's called the police on his neighbours.

Hahaha never heard this term before.....
Love it

... Exactly!! He was also hope the 'we're all white here' card would help him also. Sad man.

Love to see it 😁

LOL "Humblebrag" sounds like a character from Hogwarts!

Buddy ass thought he was justified going home to some ass. Oh yeah officer I took one shot as he stepped to me and I just feared for my life but I didn't over do it I only shot once. Then footage literally show us dude pushed him, stood there, seen the gun and backed up instantly, never even came forward. This guy just got the biggest goofy of the year award

Travis Brazil. Haha. That’s a weird surname! It’s cool though! Where is it from?

@Walker 50:51

@Sergio I got it from my dad but I'm not sure where it originated.

The Humblebrag Conviction is actually the working title of John Grisham's next legal thriller. Looks like another Hollywood adaptation is in the works for ol Johnny boy.

@ProfessorBAG Do you think he'd have beat this if he just had shut up and got a lawyer?

He talked himself into a murder charge

Lmao humblebragged into conviction 🤣😂

@Mark Acklin im english. its a reddit thing. not an america thing.

@Special Investigations Unit why do you sound like on of them teens that watched that bloke drowned one of them kept saying "Buddy ass" what part of murcia uses that.

A humblebrag? That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one

Amazing comment

@Dave Mojarra 2
They obviously dont really know you.

@Mark Acklin I’m from America and I’ve never heard that either

@Mark Acklin tryna sound like he’s a hero but ended up convicting himself

😂

I haven’t even watched video yet and read this with no context. I chuckled to my self and now am ready to enjoy and laugh at what I’m about to watch. Update after the video to come.

Should have got a lawyer before you said a word

@Mark Acklin a example like "i was walking to the store and i seen someone litter. So i rightfully removed the trash from the sidewalk and put it into the can. Its what anybody would do!" Of humble vrag

I know rig

@Nidoking Ōtsutsuki the expression humble brag surely predates reddit, probably started in the US tho.

So satisfying I need a cigarette after watching

So that's different from an explainabrag
Or a compasault !

@Simon ? wtf ?

Lmao for real I was shouting shit uuuuup. Stop talking

Lmao I hate humblebragging

Saw this comment at the top before the adverts even stopped playing, and it’s made me very excited to see the video... but in a way I think is ultimately going to upset me

Edit: 3 mins in and I already know my initial reaction to this comment was wrong. This is just disgusting

I'm held in high regard in my city for my unwavering modesty.

Travis Breazile *themselves / *himself

@Mark Acklin read a damn book

right

best comment

Would the conviction been different if he said he was in fear of his life and shivering with his head down in the interview crying?

@honchoryanc I think it might have been different if he shut his mouth and asked for a lawyer.

He’s alive so hahahahaa he gets to live and the loser than shoved him is in the ground

Don't talk to cops!!! Get a lawyer.

Bahaha yes 🤣🤣🤣

Check every rapper ever lol

so what I’m getting from this is......you killed an innocent man because YOU weren’t minding your business.......

Not very humble lol

@Amy Warren I don't want to cause u guys sleepless nights lol

hahaha i like that term Travis "humblenbrag" nice one ^^

My ex humble bragged about his bank account when he started making $100/hr and then laughed at my broken down car. I hope he has a good time sleeping with his money at night.

@Mark Acklin it's unusual everywhere. Lol

This comment is very accurate

What does that mean Travis?

@Tania Haeussler i think it was just referring to the actual thing that was funny, not his gender or anything

@fae no biggie 😉

@Darryl Hart Humblebrag is the act of trying to act humble while subtly bragging at the same time.

Humblebrag sounds like a character that should have been in Harry Potter.

"themself" Please learn English lmao.

@Anonymous user
them·self
/T͟Həmˈself,T͟Hemˈself/
used instead of “himself” or “herself” to refer to a person of unspecified sex.

It's proper English, my dude.

@CikisHelyzet What are you on about?

@Amanda Sack I never heard of humblebug in my life. New Yorker all my life. We don't use this term.

@Jason James I lived in NY my whole life. Never heard of humberbug. 🤯

@Mark Acklin I've never heard anyone say "buddy ass" as a phrase before.

Funniest part is knowing the cops are gonna turn from friends to his worst enemy but he has no idea at all so he’s talking away half way through he’s getting defensive lol

I'm just amazed at how many people don't know the term "humblebrag"

Don’t talk after an incident.

The video was enough. The interview only served to elevate the conviction from manslaughter to first or second degree murder.

At 40:49 he says “bbb” and just barely holds himself back from saying “black.”

Scott Johnson He wouldn’t have beat this murder even if he had OJs defense team 😂

Bad Cornflakes Well that one went right over your head 😂🤣

honchoryanc Not a chance..The video convicted him more than anything he said

mai gabrielle Yea that about sums it up

In case you’re wondering, the guy has no defense training, military training, or law enforcement experience. Hearing him respond “negative” to everything is hilarious. Like an ROTC kid

@Amanda Sack but I totally understood what was meant

Phew! Thank god he was convicted. Too many guns in America.

Public Service Announcement $100/hr is way more than enough to put a few nice women in that said bed and have a good time to humble bragged about later

Damn, another new word added to the vocab, but thanks for that. 😂😂

@Mark Acklin The best part is, that sounds like a British thing to say. HumbleBrag! I say!! HumbleBrag, good sir!!!!

@Mark Acklin hilarious that what it is.

He’s a man of principal.

1/3

Good.

@Pizzle Rot hahaha .. I agree!! 😂😂😂

oof good I was worried for a bad ending

Wow, what an idea! I want this too!

Yes please!

Technically they are all innocent until the verdict.

KLAbe technically not

leila lalala thanks!

He has. I can't remember the name of the particular one I'm thinking of, but I'm sure someone can.

@leila lalala I saw one here on YouTube