Initiates a confrontation over the pettiest of issues, gets shoved down, draws, no warning, hesitates, fires at least one shot at the retreating target- with an occupied public building as his backstop. He can't even claim self-defense at the very last second, because the dude was 100% retreating and in defensive posture when he shot him.

As a firearms enthusiast and studier of conflict for many years, my assumption here is that this is the scared white bully situation. He probably bullies all races, but he was extra-scared by the sudden escalation from the young black male in the middle of his bullying of the black female in the car. The old white dude came from a different world than the young black man, and one is much more accustomed to handling a physical situation without fearing for his life at the early stages of physical intimidation.

It's murder, pure and simple. This is what the insane mainstream media so desperately wanted to make out of the cut-and-dry Rittenhouse case.

@Lilith-Rose Again. What for? ??? What article of which law criminalizes the act of removing politically-extreme graffiti and extinguishing fires? ???

@laszu you do know that if someone is killed during the commission of a felony all involved are charged with it, so yes he should have been charged

@Lilith-Rose Which brings me to another interesting thought. By your logic the dude that got his arm shredded up would be held accountable for ALL events that unfolded there, since he drew his illegal glock.

@laszu in your example they took the weapon from the attacker, they weren't carrying it already so that's a completely different situation. Plus if Kyle wasn't there with a rifle he wouldn't have been chased and wouldn't have needed to use the rifle so again your point is invalid

@Lilith-Rose The worst take in this thread so far comes from you. Had Kyle not had the rifle with him, the pedos would catch him and kill him. He did what needed to be done to save his life. Simple as.

But the most important point is that illegal possession of an object does not disqualify one from their right to defend their life with reasonable force. There have been countless cases in multiple different legal systems and an opinion such as yours is never even considered. I remember a case of a person who literally grabbed an unregistered pistol from a mugger and killed the perp with it and the illegal possession of an illegal firearm didn't even come up in court.

@Jon Mancuso The only people who have a “bad take” are the ones who aren’t reasonable enough to see a story has more than one point of view with multiple possible endings. All 3 adults in this video made calls based on bad judgment. If I were put into any of all three situations, I would have reacted differently than they did. Only one of them had a weapon and used deadly force which over shadows the rest. Parking in a handicapped spot is lack of common courtesy, being called out on it and arguing back is a display of self-entitlement. Seeing a man argue with your wife and lunging at him without first using verbal communication to dessiminate the non-physical altercation shows the man’s lack of judgement and willingness to act before he thinks. Shooting someone because you were pushed down to the ground is also an impulsive, bad judgment call. If you can’t see that, you’re letting your emotions guide you rather than your logic, thus giving YOU a bad take.

To be honest, as much as this man is in the wrong, the family’s self-entitlement and non-civil nature is only being overshadowed here. The woman parks in a handicapped spot, instead of admitting her error and moving when called out, she escalated it into a verbal argument. Her husband then came out and assaulted a man for arguing. The only reason they’re not the ones who came out as villains is because this man was even for self-entitled and non-civil to the point of using deadly force unreasonably. Had he reacted differently and called the police instead of shooting, the perception of this whole thing would be completely different.

@ＬＯＤＵＳ yes it would absolutely be negated by that fact, and he would have been charged with manslaughter because of it, as would anyone else in that situation. If you are not legally allowed to possess something it is physically impossible to legally use it to defend yourself because the very act of possession is illegal, end of story

@Lilith-Rose that may be your opinion, but that doesn't determine weather someone should be tried for 1st degree murder. lets say he was not allowed to have the gun, would the fact that he was acting in self defense, be completely negated because he was not allowed to own the weapon that he used to keep himself from harm? no. Thank god an argument like that would not hold up in court, because If I did, many people would not even get a chance to testify in court, because they would be dead..

The rittenhouse case for me was determined by one factor, whether he was legally allowed to be in possession of that firearm at that time. If he wasn't supposed to have the gun it was his fault, if he was allowed to have it then it was self defence, simple as that

well said, im not one to pull the racist card on people, but there seems to be no other reason to shoot dude after he was trying to flee. Or he is just a sico who wanted an excuse to kill.


if there is one thing I've learned watching these videos, it's that you aren't convincing the police by yourself, get a damn lawyer that's the only thing that should be coming out of your mouth.


35:00 . Standing up for the rules of society doesn’t mean you’re “bold”. It means you are a good citizen.

Asian country’s are a good example of this. They don’t want trouble, but will call you out when you’re in the wrong.

This man shouldn’t have been attacked for mere words. The fact they consider using that against him, calling someone out for not follow the rules,  is down right SHAMEFUL!!!

The death of the young man is absolutely tragic and shouldn’t have happened. The physical altercation should have never happened either. My heart and prayers goes out to the kids.

@zgra74 we didn't actually hear the words that he said, the CCTV footage didn't have any audio to actually hear the threats against the wife and the children.

Those “mere words” were loud, angry threats against that man’s wife and children. He reacted like any protective father would, or should.

my thoughts exactly, I wonder what the cops' intentions were when they are interrogating this guy. I feel like they are pushing for the guy to incriminate himself rather than trying to find out what exactly happened after the guy had clearly shown that he was willing to cooperate. I think they should have shown him the video and have him explain what happened as events transpired. And also have the witnesses on the scene corroborate with the  CCTV footage.


I watched the cctv footage once, and knew he was going to get convicted. The prosecution should have needed only to have played the footage and rested their case.


I'm a gun advocate, but this is exactly why I believe that there needs to be longer and better processes of someone being able to legally get a gun and be able to actually carry that gun.  When I went to get my CPL I had went to the range for 9-10 months after buying my pistol to practice with it and get comfortable and knowing I knew how to use the gun properly and safely, was able to take it apart and put it back together.  I then felt comfortable being able to take a class properly to actually carry something that could end somebodys life.  I've been around guns and shot guns my whole life and even after that amount of time I still didn't think I was ready to actually carry something that could be used to harm/kill another person.

The FIRST THING they teach you is that actually using the gun is the absolute last thing that you should ever do and to completely avoid confrontation or putting yourself in a scenario that could be confrontational.  The scariest part about that class was when we went to the range and you had to actually demonstrate you could shoot the gun properly and reload it etc.  Everyone in that class besides myself and 3 others, literally DIDN"T know how to shoot a gun and take it off safety or could even shoot straight.  Shit some of them have never shot a gun before in there life. I was in shock that these people could actually be carrying something that could harm somebody.

I think you do have the right to own guns and that shouldn't change but what needs to change is the process of getting the guns and being able to carry those guns.  This whole situation should never have happened over a stupid ass handicap spot.

Exactly <br>No responsible gun owner actually wants to shoot anyone

Exactly
No responsible gun owner actually wants to shoot anyone

I am a uk military medic and love guns but 100% agree with you


imagine if he didnt talk to police and made his case about how he could have possibly died from the push if he hit his head. he could have argued that in the shock state he was he was fearing for his life after the possible assault on his life


I could never be a defense lawyer in these situations. The minute I see the video I would just tell the judge to lock him up lol

he would go to jail if he were guilty, good lawyer or not. lawyer gets paid either way for their argument.


I would understand if the man actually did come at him after he knocked him down and then he fired his weapon that’s understandable but the video it clearly shows after he draws handgun the man backs up and he’s not a threat because he clearly noticed the handgun aimed at him all around a bad situation you shouldn’t be going up to random people knocking them to the ground and you should not immediately draw your firearm


Can you guys please make more videos. This helps alot with me studying human behavior


Classic example of a questionable defensive shooting leading to a easy conviction by the shooter not getting a good lawyer immediately.


Guy was picking fights and had to pull the gun the second he gets knocked off his high wall. What a pathetic excuse of a human tbh.


At around 11:50 the Explanation for the term “ apeal to extremes”. Was explained very well.


He got 20 years in prison, he might still be able to go home after prison and enjoying life. What happens with the entire family he just destroyed? 20 years ladies and genttlemen is what it costs to destroy a human life and family. I would say death sentence


Wow, his arm didn't hurt at all while he was in the room by himself but as soon as they walked in he went straight into acting mode


Drejka kept raising the level of aggression while armed just so he could put himself in this position so he could do what he has been fantasizing about.....killing someone in 'self defense.'


Officer: "I just wanted to tell you... the man you shot is deceased"
Killer: "Thank you"
bro...


What I hate most about this case, is that if the people who had been threatened with the gun in previous events had just told the police... He would not have a firearm. This was a failure by the American people to report a dangerous individual.


i seem to remember my parents watching fox news and discussing with me why they thought this seemed justified


That sigh in the officers voice at 21:56 when he gets him off the floor, he knew in that moment what had happened, he knew he had to keep humouring him to get him to dig his own grave.


The prosecutor closing argument was all over the place.


OMG he's so faking that arm 'injury'. It moves just fine when he needs to use it to make a point.


Wow, when the defense says a literal video recording is not 'representative of what happened' because it wasn't in HD. What a joke.


why shoot once if the ''threat'' was coming towards you ... he shooted once because he was backing away ...


Carrying a gun and going shopping is beyond my comprehension!


Why did he have a gun? Was he looking for a fight? He wouldn’t change anything!!? How about not approach a women alone in a car with her children or have a loaded fun in your pocket. He is an angry person, and was looking for trouble! Syncopate!!!!


If he had talked to a lawyer before hand, would he have won the case?


He is pretty inconsistent in how injured his arm is supposed to be.


only bit I have a problem with is this "perfect shot" the guy ran back in the store, 5 seconds, plenty of time to return fire, a "perfect shot" head shot, the person drops instantly, no chance of return fire.


Gonna be a sad day when I finish this whole channel..
Quality viewing
Well done J. C. S


The way he’s sat with his glasses on the end of his nose writing notes like an intellectual he’s a frickin murderer smh!


This guy probably would have walked if he had just kept his mouth shut and got a lawyer. Thankfully he wasn't that smart


It's crazy to think these are the same mindsets that think a 6 foot distance during a pandemic isn't necessary. However. "gotta save my life after harassing others " is.  Yeesh.


I’m a cop…that defense never works, <i>Homicide</i> implies a motive..

I’m a cop…that defense never works, _Homicide_ implies a motive..


I find it baffling that these disgusting people of the “law” can defend these criminal’s. Exactly why I don’t stick my foot in the mud

This. Man was an ex-con AND massively escalated te situation INFRONT of his family. Was fresh out of prison and looking for trouble. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. A tragedy, in a sense.


"It was an assumption DEFINITELY"

J.F. Christ, just hand the prosecution the win why dont you.


28:13 The arm seemed to make a miraculous recovery.


At around 1:40 onwards on the clock top right, his right arm comes to life when he gets defensive, waving arms and everything


@ 40:00 that was a lie intended to justify his actions to the court , but it prolly had to opposite effect. Anyone that has killed someone do not want to go through it again .


This dude is such a coward. Starts a confrontation with a woman with her kids present, then when confronted and defended by her  boyfriend, his reaction is to shoot first.  Such a Pathetic Coward. 😡

The boyfriend is a coward. The guy shoots him with a gun and he runs away while the wife is helpless with their child.


This couldve all been avoided if he minded his own business not saying the lady was in the right but her boyfriend wouldve been alive


what I see here, is that this dude, thinks it's normal that someone had died, for a parking place.


please come back, i love this account, i need more!


Why didn't he give him a warning?<br>Seems pretty strange to me

Why didn't he give him a warning?
Seems pretty strange to me


That black woman’s expression in the back was more hilarious than that lady’s when that lawyer said he was the victim.


the defense attorney lmaoooo they look like clowns when they try to defend people like this


19 mins! Within 19 mins the first responders showed up. You’re as good as dead in these streets with response times like that


He murdered a father and husband for what? Stupid everyday fight. There wasn't any imminent threat for his life. The person who pushed him, stepped away while he was aiming! I believe he didn't mean to kill him. But because of that he deserve's a second murder degree charges.


There was no immediate threat until you showed up 🙁


Did anybody tell this guy that he is not a parking inspector?


@ 16:19 how did you determine the moment the window was opened?


Though I hate ppl that park in handicapped spaces I find it odd he would make a big deal about it when there were so many actual closer parking spaces that were closer to the entrance of the store.  Recognising of course  most handicapped  spots are usually wider than most for obvious reasons. If he was so concerned about the situation he could have called the police (not using the 911 #) and report the person)   he had no justification for shooting this guy as the man was not armed


He probably woulda got away with it if there wasn’t surveillance sadly


29:38 - the following 10 seconds explains everything


Shoots someone dead , shows no emotion. Talks about his dogs and starts crying


Wanna know someone? give him power.<br>USA: Let's give everyone a firearm, I want to know every citizen's true form.

Wanna know someone? give him power.
USA: Let's give everyone a firearm, I want to know every citizen's true form.


why the heck did that detective shake the hand of the man that he KNOWS just murdered a guy in cold blood


im mad that his tattoo was actually quite clever and cute


Drejka looked for trouble and so did McGlockton.


JFC. "I couldn't see his hands, his face, if he had a weapon, if he had others with him, where he came from... He didn't say anything, either. But I can tell you he was Black, at my store, and coming to finish me. I had those reasons to shoot." I wonder what news station this tool watches.
#BlackLivesMatter


Funny this guy calls this his store and he's there every day and yet somehow hss no idea of the servalance cameras!


Couldn’t he have meant he had a permit to park in the handicapped spot? Or does he? Lol wtf this whole thing is so sad honestly: over a parking spot.


The guy you shot for no reason is dead, ok thank you for telling me 😶


There were empty parking spaces all over.  They should never have parked in the handicapped spot.  The driver's behavior was inexcusable!

@nolanone I don't think the shooter was justified.  I do think that each party, the driver, the assaulter, and the shooter were culpable in the outcome of this tragic event.  What if the driver had simply moved her car?  What if the assaulted had said something, instead of blindsiding the shooter?  What if the shooter had minded his own damn business?

I can't decide what would be worse: if you actually believe that Drejka was justified in his actions or if you're just trying to stir shit up. At a certain point, it's all the same I guess.

Do you have any feeling about the murderer also parking illegally?


ugh it's sickening to see how many people in these comments are defending this murderer. parking in the wrong spot does not justify murder. failing to de-escalate and shoving someone during an argument also does not justify murder, wtf is wrong with y'all?! just say you're racist and go.


These videos tell me 1 important thing. Guilty or innocent. Shut up. Let your lawyer speak for you.


Where does he get these interview tapes from??


This man really talking ab “surrounding threats” sir it’s not Vietnam this is a gas station


35:20 bookmarking the force multiplier bit for future reference


I am a military medic 100% he be alive if the paramedic got there in 5 minutes but thay have to wait for the police i think i from the uk in the uk we have to wait for the armed police before paramedics go in to help RIP buddy


It's the way he made an arm sling out of his shirt for me


I understand that he had him on gunpoint, but not that he pulled the trigger


all this "immediate threat" this "potential threat" someone tell him life isnt a COD lobby???


literally nothing he recalls was what actually happened..


The fact that just about any idiot can walk around with a gun is a real problem. The situation only arises because he knows that he’s armed.

@1jayteeemel I wish he would have done that. Clearly his mentality was to bait someone into a situation where he could plausibly pull his firearm. Cowardly behavior if you ask me.

His first problem was walking up to the car. When you’re armed, you still try to avoid any type of confrontation. If he would have just minded his own business, everything would be fine. Nobody would have gotten hurt, and this moron would be still walking around armed.


This was a hate crime.<br>Did anybody else hear him refer to the mother of three as "probably smoking crack"?

This was a hate crime.
Did anybody else hear him refer to the mother of three as "probably smoking crack"?


Hell even #Mac from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia gives an ocular pat down before taking action. 🤷🏼♂

Hell even #Mac from _It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia_ gives an ocular pat down before taking action. 🤷🏼♂


This is example A.... Take the 5th, get your attorney! These guys railroaded him!


I am all for self defense, but this wasn't self defense. #1 - This guy should have minded his own business. #2 - Even if you get shoved to the ground, take a moment to assess everything. The victim was turned away in a non-aggressive stance and got shot. Unbelievable.

You're on the ground for no reason, and someone else is obviously mad at you and God knows what can happen next, it's not so easy you know.


I'm not American, never touched a gun in my life. But...idk, is it that hard to aim for the leg? Isnt a shot in the leg enough to "neutralize" any " immediate threat"?


One person dead, several lives ruined in a matters of seconds for NOTHING! HORRIBLE


He obviously got medically discharged the the tree trimming front lines.  They trim with M60’s.


I love seeing Drako get knocked off his feet!


dude just looked at him when he drew the pistol he should have ran wtf


Lesson : Don’t ever be the Parking Police.


Fuck, I am so happy to live in a society without civilian ownership of lethal firearms for self-defense.

@D2x I know that, it wasn't legitimate legal self defense use of a lethal firearm. I watched the entire video (a couple times). I'm just saying that having a gun in a dumb situation is a really, really regrettable thing sometimes (such as this).

That wastns self defense. After the push there was no aggression behavior. His body language is relaxed and is even walking backwards


I honestly dislike every single person involved in this incident, but the sentence is justified imo


Gee, I just shot someone.  Should I consult with an attorney?  Nah, I'm sure the cops have my best interests in mind.


it's funny how he's coddling his arm and explaining his injuries when he just shot a guy. like, ever wonder how the other guy felt?


Anyone notice at the 28 minute mark his right hand starts to work again?

that's a miracle shirt that he buttoned it in. Only 5,98 in selected stores near you.


He was 100% in the wrong for shooting the man, he's not in the wrong for 'defending' himself. he was arguing with a woman, a couple meters away from her, didn't verbally threaten her, then her husband knocked him to the ground. If he wasn't shot dead, the husband could likely be jailed for assault. Not defending Michael's actions, the man didn't take a step forward and go to attack him like Michael said, and certainly didn't deserve to die. But he likely wouldn't have been shot dead if he didn't knock Michael down.

True,but if that was happening to your partner/wife what are your first instincts??"hey can't we just get along?"<br>No,it's who the fuck you think you are talking to my girl like that🥊🥋🤬

True,but if that was happening to your partner/wife what are your first instincts??"hey can't we just get along?"
No,it's who the fuck you think you are talking to my girl like that🥊🥋🤬


The argument that the cameras aren't high definition is extremely weak. Almost irrelevant


In my country it is illegal to fire a gun into a crowd of young people.


30:56 “What kind of twitch was it?”
“Duuuh hiptwitch!”


Update: He is at the Florida Columbia Annex Prison. Satellite shows he will be able to see the handicap spaces, near the visitors’ entrance, from the prison yard. Fence is about 40 feet from the parking area. He will be squinting to see the handicap tags on windshields. If you see his latest prison mugshot he is drenched in sweat...and he was complaining about Pinellas county jail AC being too cold. There are no AC or fans in Florida prisons. If you are unlucky enough to have your bunk on the sunny side of the dorm...the concrete wall gets vert hot.


As a Scot, I am horrified, yet again, that all these nutcases are allowed guns.


This is why cowards shouldn't have guns..They shoot first ask questions later.


The fact that he had pulled his gun on multiple people before is SCARY.  Like he set off that day to kill someone.<br>My best friend is in a wheelchair, and we never even use the handicapped parking spaces cuz we can do without it, and we think others may need it more. There have been so many times that the handicapped spots have been filled with those not needing it, and we just roll past them and smile. To us, that's enough to get the message across. NOT SHOOTING SOMEONE. Holy cow!

The fact that he had pulled his gun on multiple people before is SCARY.  Like he set off that day to kill someone.
My best friend is in a wheelchair, and we never even use the handicapped parking spaces cuz we can do without it, and we think others may need it more. There have been so many times that the handicapped spots have been filled with those not needing it, and we just roll past them and smile. To us, that's enough to get the message across. NOT SHOOTING SOMEONE. Holy cow!


If you want to have a weapon you should have a lot more training on the what you can and cannot do with your weapon and if you kill someone without a real reason you should sign something that say you understand you will go to prison if you misuse your weapon. I would have said the guy who got killed should have not gone straight into pushing the guy he should have at least spoken to him.  The guy with the gun gets his gun out maybe that is fine but to just shoot with out any warning or the fact the guy who got killed had no weapon show this guy either wanted to shot someone or did not have the IQ or skills to have a gun.

Ohhh training will prevent criminals from being criminals


Wow his lawyer was bad. Compared to the prosecutor, it's night and day.


A shove to the pavement does not justify shooting someone. But don’t lose sight that it was beyond stupid to shove someone like that who posed no immediate danger. Do that and you increase the odds of a violent response.


29:29 "all I saw was a man trying to do me"


Why does the prosecutor refer to the victim as Michael and not Marquis towards the end of the video?


2 lessons:
- It was stupid for the guy to push him. Just don't do that.... nothing good is gonna come out of it.
- if your country is not at war; don't carry a gun. It's just dangerous. All of us have rage and fear in our heart. So it is very tempting to grab a gun if you know you have it. But your brain does not think of the consequences so fast. This guy has thrown his life because he made a decision in 1 second, based on the fact that he had firepower with him. If he didn't it would have been a fistfight and everyone would be at home the same night with their loved ones.

Many good people are alive today because they WERE carrying a gun when violently attacked.  This guy used very poor judgment.


He Shoulda plead the 5th... Speaking only solidified the fact he is an idiot.... u killed a man over a parking spot. Crazy shit...


This is the first video of this chanel where I disagree with quite some of the given explanations.


“It’s not very polite to park here”. It’s not very polite to shoot people, don’t you think 😂


Oh, it's not HD? If it's not HD then you betta get it outta here! NOT GUILTY!


americans and guns. I'm in Canada, I don't need a gun, have no desire to have one. 25% of the population in Canada are gun owners. The laws for having them are much stricker. background checks are thorough, criminal record, even mental health issues are taken into consideration. We have our problems with them but nothing like in the USA!


I don't get why people can't just mind their own fucking business.


To be honest if he just filed for assault he would have probably won in some way, cause that push was a unnecessary even if he was a hypocrite.

Bruh, that’s called assault, doesn’t make what way you make it. There’s nothing illegal about informing someone about legality of parking in a disabled space.

How was it unnecessary? He was acting aggressive towards his wife that was just minding her own business. The husband had no context on the situation


Now he's gettin his fudge packed ober a handicap sign!


This is why I ALWAYS keep a secret yogurt inside my grandmother's mind.


Lock him up for using the word negative instead of no. I hate that.


There are lot of space to park the car..why  is he quarrelling with the woman at the first place..🙄


That defense was fucking terrible wtf was that😂


34:07 i thought that I got a notification for a moment ahah

34:07 i thought that *I* got a notification for a moment ahah


Zero remorse. This is an adult male. Ticking time bomb.

So was obviously the guy who shoved him.


You can see him put on the whole “my arm hurts” act when the detective first walks in to begin the interview. That waiting period after they took the cuffs off of him he acts fine, then suddenly when someone walks in he can’t even use the arm to shake hands. He deserves to rot in hell for what he’s done.

27:26 just makes no sense.. or I mean it does... but then when altercations happen.. whaa? He could have pulled a gun... obviously wasn’t going to but he could have.. :/

Oh and also he is fabricating the arm maybe but also you clearly haven’t ever fallen over hard. Or are young...

You’ll stiffen up 30 mins later and then be ruined for days... much like this guy is. He got shoved pretty hard unexpectedly to the ground... and he already looks like hammered shit.. ain’t no spring chicken is he.

He’s guilty because he can recall his actions almost perfectly which shows ( as well as him not confessing either ) that he was never scared for his life. It’s not instant at all and he just guns someone down really maliciously and thoughtfully/reasonably ... but bad reasoning... thoughtfully. Hahaha. You know what I mean.

you made me laugh so hard with that last sentence!!


As a handicapped person that needs a close parking spot I really can't stand the self appointed Handicapped parking police.  Please don't be that person. Its not really helpful.  You are not being helpful by confronting strangers and making them feel as if they are under attack.  You don't know their story.  I have been in situations where I was driving a friends car and I didn't have a placard and I used the space anyway because I was in pain.  I also know if I got a ticket I would be able to protest it.  If someone would confront me I would just wave my fake leg at them.
Anyway with this situation why is he going around packing a gun as he confronts strangers?  Would he do it without a gun?  Admittingly he wouldn't even though he recanted I think his original response was the truth.
He wanted a reason to use his gun and he was out looking for it.

@EtelorveHc49 shooting someone for pushing you is a little overkill no matter the situation. If you can’t control yourself with a firearm you shouldn’t be allowed to carry one. As a man you get into physical altercations throughout your life. A punch in the face shouldn’t mean a guy loses his life. You can get beat up and just fight back without unloading your gun.

I don't confront them. I just call the cops and give them them the license plate number

“ I had never been in this situation before” that’s the problem with people like this, if someone had knocked him on his ass a long time ago he wouldn’t have made it this far in life still acting like a fool. He was so surprised that someone actually stood up to him.

If you're REALLY concerned about handicap parking enforcement, then call the actual parking enforcement people! I think the guy was really just upset that there were strange black people at a gas station he goes to every day (also why tf does he go there every day??)

@EtelorveHc49 Um just because someone push you down , doesn't necessarily mean you should shoot them 😕 . When the guy take out the gun the victim was ready to back off . He could of easily  just threaten him to stop with the gun.

damn straight. looking for a cause to use his gun.

EXACTLY!! He didn’t walk in the damn store once! He went there looking for someone to give him a reason to use that weapon! So irritating!

Yeah I feel the same way he definitely instigated it and the guy stopped when he seen the gun.. also the victim was in the wrong to though you shouldn’t be able to push people to the ground for yelling at your girlfriend without expecting to get shot.. in my regular civilian opinion man slaughter is the appropriate charge

My step mom has MS and its really annoying when all the handicapped places are full, but at the same time a lot of these gas stations have really shitty handicap spots that just feel like they were thrown in to meet regulation. I don't even see a ramp anywhere near that parking spot. Unless there are no other close spots or the spot is in front of a ramp, its not worth it. Even then, you could just ask them to move their car like a sane person.

It’s also a gas station where about every parking space is super close. It’s not exactly forcing a disabled person to walk from the back of a parking lot. He didn’t care about disabled people he wanted a fight.

"I would just wave my fake leg at them" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that'd end the confrontation real quick<br>legend

"I would just wave my fake leg at them" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that'd end the confrontation real quick
legend


this guy freaks me out. he really believes that his interpretation of the situation justified his response, even though the circumstances pointed to him being the primary aggressor and didn't warrant such a response. It's a weird situation, that happened incredibly fast

he did back off, there's no arguing that, but ONLY after he saw him reach for a gun. the wife didn't need to get out of the car either. they're both hot heads. i can't say for sure, but in most cases that shove would've been proceeded with kicks and swings. if he was okay with blindsiding a guy and pushing him from behind to the ground, he'd be okay with any other hits he could get in.

it's not weird. it's the problem with being able to own a gun without education. he knows nothing about why self-defense and gun laws are implemented much less how to interpret them.

@Matías Fernandez Sorry, made same mistake somewhere else. Indeed he pushed ,walked towards him ,saw the gun, clearly stepped back and only then got shot. There was enough time to realize the treat was "neutralized", no need to shoot

@Louis G I did, you should listen to the closing argument of the prosecutor. When he took the gun out the situation was defused, You can see it in the video, you have the right to defend yourself, not to avenge an offense.

@Matías Fernandez I think you didn't watch, he clearly pushed him and got shot after

To those who missed it, the victim AND the witness saw the guy on the ground pulling his gun and both started backing the fuck away.  The shooter said in the interview that the victim twitched and he shot him.

@lang 1007 he WAS backing off before he got shot. please rewatch the video because you clearly missed that part.

@Tyler Shea if you think he should’ve been released, I know not to take anything you say seriously.

@Tyler Shea Here is also 21:00 to 21:08 that you also missed where it says the second and steps outloud

@lang 1007 Here is also 21:00 to 21:08 that you also missed where it says the second and steps outloud

@lang 1007 2:28 to 2:31 . Here is just evidence that you missed

@lang 1007 No there was , it even said on the screen 2.5s . He took 3 steps back and turned his body towards the other side and then got shot straight in the heart, not even in the leg just went straight for the kill because he is obviously not okay in the head. You just don't want to accept reality and admit to being wrong...

@Sxiller "The black man was just unfortunate to pick a fight with a kill-ready sensitive   wussy" He didn't pick a fight with him, he blindsided him and knocked him over. That was the 'wussy' move.

In what way is he the primary aggressor?

@AFluffyWhiteKitty I think he should have been released

@Sxiller he took a step back that doesn’t indicate his no longer a threat. Maybe if he didn’t want to get into a fight that would potentially cost his life, maybe don’t go around shoving random people

@zooportal how do you know that. Did you know him personally?

He wasn’t the primary aggressor for the physical fight, although he was for the verbal one. I think his response was justified in my opinion

@lang 1007 There is no many ways around it, either you didn't watch the video or you are lying.

@lang 1007 This is largely how I feel about this whole event as well. And I can kindof see how in such a moment, immediately after being shoved from behind with clear intent to harm you, any movement could be perceived as a further threat.  I think Drejka was just acting on reflexes.  Just my opinion but I think 20 years is a bit harsh all things considered... 15 seems better.

@Sxiller you're not "kindly" when you insinuate i'm lying.  YOU rewatch the clip, because he walked right up to him and shoved him without even trying to diffuse the argument.  there was NOT 2.5s of him backing up.  YOU rewatch the clip and tell me the truth next time.

i'm not going to go into this with you.  i'll just agree to disagree.

@lang 1007 "he wasnt backing off" . I am kindly gonna ask you to rewatch the clip at least 5 times and tell me the truth next time . The black man was just unfortunate to pick a fight with a kill-ready sensitive   wussy . There was a WHOLE 2.5s of backing up . You can take from this that he just wanted to shoot his weapon . You cant say otherwise

@zooportal he wasn't backing off.  he only backed off after he got shot.  he went up to the guy and shoved him.  he was also looking for a fight.  he just picked the wrong guy, some trigger-happy guy that yes, "was looking for a chance to shoot someone."  they were BOTH looking for a fight.  the victim wasn't there to diffuse the situation, but to use physical force to intimidate the guy.

@lang 1007 it’s not the victim’s responsibility to not get shot while he’s visibly backing off. it’s a bigger issue than that. this guy was looking for a chance to shoot someone and he got it.

yes, he was the original aggressor, but the victim escalated it into a physical altercation; he should've de-escalated the situation, not shoved the guy.  i'm not saying he's was justified in killing the guy, but tbh, if someone suddenly shoved me down, i'd be scared af that he was gonna start pounding me.

you should watch the story of lukas strasser-hird, very sad and senseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZryGyYiU2U&t=1270s


The way he's faking his shoulder and arm injury is so cringy.

It’s not easy playing the victim after killing someone

Right??? I had a man twice my size pick me up, and THROW me onto  asphalt hard as hell, and I wasn't as hurt as he's pretending to be. I was covered in blood. But I didn't wine about it...

Really?  Gosh dang it why do I believe everybody. I’m mad at myself. I’d be a terrible detective

thug felt entitled to block a handicapped parking spot, violently attacked person standing near his car without warning, striking him to the ground, got his just pay in “hard currency” ... sh@t happens ... move right on, nothing to see here...

@FML I know I shouldn't laugh, but.......

But he should not have shot the Gun he should have just haved point it at the Guy and if the Guy attacked him again he could shoot

FML i mean it was self defense in a way. A random dude attacked him from behind

That's a little far fetched, i've hit the ground on Rock solid road,Yes it is enough to do that.

@natasha your in agreement, hey that's my bad then... that was extrrreeemely very transphobic of you and it's not cool at allllll and I am totally outraged right now.🤬🤬lmao 👍😜😜

@natasha yeah hunny boo boo we are serious dudes phantom injury to draw sympathy especially when he shows the detective how he pulled his gun

he leaned on his shoulder for the 45 mins he was waiting and the second they came back in the room...aww my arm hurts sooooo much

And he sometimes forgets that he's hurting, especially when reenacting the incident :')

@Katy Bug65 he does not look like riddick, kinda weird bro

I kno I was like, come on dude ur a lil ridic


The dude cries because he misses his dogs. But no consideration for the mother and kids that miss their father. That he killed.

Why I would care more about some random irrelevant guy instead of my own dogs?

Serious question.

@miguelitoven He is an irresponsible weapons handler to say the least.  But at least when he gets out he will never be able to possess a firearm ever again.

@G Ham nah it was self defense the guy shouldn’t have pushed him... it’s not racism

maybe don’t violently attack people and you won’t get shot to death?

@Drained  do you have any sympathy, why are you defending this monster, if you was in this man shoes watching someone yelling at your wife someone that gave you a child, someone you love, you would prolly do the same, that man is a selfish coward I wouldn’t show any empathy towards that man, he killed him when he was backing off , That’s the same small minded thinking that ruins society.

@Bob Marley you clearly know nothing about America

@Bob Marley you clearly know nothing about America

@G Ham it doesn’t ur right but it can.....oops

@G Ham it doesn’t ur right but it can.....oops

@highlandrab19 I’m gonna say what others have already said, DID YOU NOT WATCH THE VIDEO? The man shot took several steps back and retreated when the gun was pulled.

Had the black guy not unnecesarry pushed him nothing would have happened and he would still be alive today.

@drained even you Admit saying “welcome to America where no one gets shot in the leg” the American gun system is corrupt. Anyone can get a gun and shoot someone and half the time get away with it because it’s “self defense”

@drained you are offended by us calling a murder to a black person racist, you are calling us sensitive for accusing racism but you are the one offended for it being called racist.

@Mustaqeemah Oni sociopaths r more inclined to intensely bond with animals actually

@Thobeka Ngwenyama Most Americans? Perhaps the criminal ones, who carry illegally obtained firearms.

 The whole point of an open-carry/concealed-carry is to be able to defend yourself when your life is being threatened. That doesn't mean idiots won't abuse it to kill somebody and claim self defense. Good thing the courts threw the book at him.

@Drained This is like this everywhere. Shooting the legs is a universal stupid idea.

@Thobeka Ngwenyama How many times does the "shoot in the leg" meme have to be debunked? The legs are home to many major arteries. If he gets shot in the leg, yeah good luck saving him when blood is coming out of him like a garden hose. There's a reason you don't shoot the legs.

@Thobeka Ngwenyama as i said:<br>"THIS IS AMERICA" is it really that suprising, been 2 school shooting in a year nearby

@Thobeka Ngwenyama as i said:
"THIS IS AMERICA" is it really that suprising, been 2 school shooting in a year nearby

@highlandrab19 tbh he kinda deserved to be pushed. He’s a weak manlet.

@Crystal Coleman ok thank you for your service

@Crystal Coleman ok thank you for your service

@highlandrab19 ummmm what I saw was a man got pushed for harassing a mans wife and the dude pulled out a gun and the man who pushed him backed away immediately and still got shot

@miguelitoven 👍exactly.  Self defense vs retribution.

@Jack Of Blades welcome to america, i didnt write the gun laws. Maybe im pathetic, but im just stating a fact whilst youre drowning in your own hateful emotions. Maybe his actions are unjustified

@godspeeding if i was a weak man getting pushed by a much bigger man, id react the same, whether he was black or not.<br>Your argument is stupud, he shot because he was a threat, but he overreacted.

@godspeeding if i was a weak man getting pushed by a much bigger man, id react the same, whether he was black or not.
Your argument is stupud, he shot because he was a threat, but he overreacted.

@Drained what I don't think you understand was racist about his actions was the fact that he went up to the family's car (whom he could clearly identify as black), provoked them, then the moment they  retaliate  he perceives the father as a "threat" and assumes his actions before giving him much of a chance to react. we all know the stereotype that black men are "aggressive thugs" and this was the exact stereotype he projected onto the father, despite the fact that the father was only defending his family. you can hear it in  his language when he's being interrogated, he even admits that all he had to go off was an assumption of the father's actions.

@highlandrab19 He shouldn't have been messing with people to begin with, it wasn't any of his business. I never understand why people can't just mind their damn business. Dude was defending his family from a nosy idiot, he pushed him and then backed away when he saw the gun. He didn't threaten him any further and didn't beat him up. A push doesn't equate to gunning someone down.

1:56 if you watch the vid closely, the real problem is created BY THE WIFE once the confrontation occurs. The WIFE exits her vehicle - perhaps after seeing her husband coming, perhaps not, but she endangers herself and husband by escalating the situation by getting RIGHT IN THE NUTTY GUY'S FACE.
At first,I said the husband should have placed himself between his family and the nut, but there's no room. The man walks at regular speed before his wife plays the fool, and while he still didn't have to use violence and escalate things, the natural reaction of shielding his wife was taken away by the wife herself

The wife was determined that things would go badly

That said, the shooter should have just called the police and gave them the plate and never confronted strangers

I mean I'd miss my dogs too but I understand ur point. Plus I wouldn't murder someone just because they parked in a handicapped area smh

@DivideBy Zero yes i am sure from my comment you can tell I don't understand some dog people , not all of them but this man for instance , he killed a human like his life doesn't matter he didn't even have any remorse for a whole ass human being I don't understand how he is capable of loving another life that is even less than a human ( dog).<br>I am all for being kind to animals and animal right and stuff it's cool.

@DivideBy Zero yes i am sure from my comment you can tell I don't understand some dog people , not all of them but this man for instance , he killed a human like his life doesn't matter he didn't even have any remorse for a whole ass human being I don't understand how he is capable of loving another life that is even less than a human ( dog).
I am all for being kind to animals and animal right and stuff it's cool.

@Drained The victim Did. Not. Have. A. Weapon.

@Drained The victim Did. Not. Have. A. Weapon.

@Luis Lozano yes, any rational person could've probably assessed that the threat was gone when he backed up. But his intentions behind shooting were probably not to "Kill him cus hes black". It's very difficult to know what his thinking was. Maybe he was just insanely scared? Who knows, but dont be to judgemental on this man. Its america after all, and there aint really a barrier that keeps dumbasses from obtaining lethal weapons.

@Drained i agree, the only thing thwt troubles me is he waited pretty long to shoot, well atleast in my perspective, could that have been enough time to assess the situation and realize the larger man was not approaching him anymore ? How much time has to pass for it to be considered unethical to shoot someone? 2,3 or is after 4 seconds way to long to then shoot someone? Horrible situation all together anyhow.

Not to suggest that this shooting is justified, but this is a good reminder not to put your hands on people. Dead guy made a huge mistake just the same.

@Drained ever heard of de escalation? That's what you do.

@Luis Lozano try to think from the guys perspective, a much bigger man runs put and pushes you, he could've impossibly known what his intents where and likely panicked.

But yes, shooting him was an unnecessary, but there really aint much to do.

@highlandrab19 plus you are telling me you wouldnt push a guy away from your WIFE if they are screaming at her? Would you just let it happen and submit to the situation? A push should not be justifiable means for a shooting..

@highlandrab19 yeah idk what video you watched but the guy took several steps back after he had pulled out his gun and proceeded to shoot him while the dad was retreating...


Dude's like this are why I don't engage road-ragers anymore.  I just move over and let 'em pass.  Too many people out there who just can't wait to defend themselves....

@Emperor Ziko gotcha. Alright then, good to know.

@Emperor Ziko gotcha. Alright then, good to know.

@Cole Black btw, that's how it is with any private business that doesn't allow firearms. If they find out you're carrying, and they ask you to leave, and you refuse, and they call the police, and the police get there and you STILL haven't left, you can be charged with civil trespassing. Not even criminal trespassing.

@Emperor Ziko I do know a fuck ton of shippers and receivers won't allow firearms on their property, so at the very least it could be inconvenient to carry.

@Now as I was saying... Yeah but his company isn't the law. Only thing they can do is fire him for violating policy. If you don't tell them, they'll never know.

@Cole Black You're welcome. Idk why people always say this. Tons of truckers carry lol. You still have to obey local laws. If you're going to a state that doesn't offer reciprocity for your CCW, then you can't carry there, and your company can set a policy against carrying, but it's not a law, so the only thing they can do is fire you if they find out. Even then, that's mostly just big companies.

Yep, same, I gave the finger to a guy once after he cut me off and he followed me for quite a while, that sobered me up, now I just curse in my car lol

Me too. It just isn't worth it. Too many men like this, emboldened by the fact that they carry a gun, will act on the slightest sign of disrespect.

They need a return on investment somehow, guns are expensive and these nutcases want a reason to use them legally and if they can, sound like some sort of hero in the process.

Well just dont shove some random dude to the ground from behind and you'll be fine lol

@jukkis6699 "objectively" is a bit of a strong word in this case. If you genuinely think he wasn't thinking that far ahead, you're probably a bit naive. I would bet a lot of money that he thought about an "opportunity" like that ALL THE TIME. Fantasizing about it, thinking about how cool he'll look in news interviews, shit like that. This situation happened as if he planned for it to go like that, at least for the most part.

@Cole Black well that's just objectively not true. People like this are hinged and crazy. they do not think that far ahead, quite the opposite. If more people would have guns, people like this would use that as a defence to shoot on sight, as they would see the "bad guy" probably carrying so he should defend people from this bad guy quicker! sooo no, more people owning guns would not help in situations like this or with people like this. other cases? I don't know, maybe it would help, im not against guns, nut i am against bad arguments.

I couldn't agree more. Not worth the risk.

I couldn't agree more. Not worth the risk.

its funny you said so
 when you see he was arrested before on  threatening drivers with a gun on the road for reason such as Driving too slowly	,Parking in handicapped space	.Stopping at yellow light
that guy was looking for a chance to use his gun no matter what

@Willy Bones who suggested we give everyone a gun?

@Willy Bones who suggested we give everyone a gun?

@Slappy McFace If everyone is armed...that means all the nutcases too.  The ones with anger issues as well. It'd be the wild wild west.

"Defend themselves" when the only threat is to their masculinity.

@Slappy McFace Apparently the irony was lost on you.

@Willy Bones if you don’t want to protect yourself that’s your option, I’m not going to force you to arm yourself. Just don’t start looking around when evil happens to you.

So you agree that an armed society is a polite society. Cool

Literally. I'm not trying to have to defend myself for murdering some psychopath riding my tail, so I just pull over

@rdizzy1 Yes, you do have a point, and don't mistake me for being right wing, left wing, centrist, buffalo wing, none of that shit. But once again, I was mainly referring to the specific situation in the video, as well as situations like it. Had the victim been armed, or his wife, as well as if there were a more likely possibility that they did have a gun, there may not have BEEN any victims. THAT guy presents to me like someone who only did that because he thought there wouldn't be any real consequences. I'd say a strong possibility of getting turned into swiss cheese by the man he drew the gun on, or by his wife, would be a pretty strong deterrent. And yes, absolutely, there will always be people who get fucked up on meth, heroine, etc. That don't fear death because they don't even currently fully grasp the concept they could die. There will always be psychos as well. Ones who don't care if they die. But genuinely, if I ever had a kid, raised them, and sent them off into this fucking disaster of a world to work at a job, and get their own apartment: I'm going to feel a lot better if I know they have a gun and are able to use it effectively. Not just them, but my girlfriend, wife, boyfriend, husband, whoever the fuck I'm with at the time, I'd love for them to be armed, because I worry. Same with friends, family, etc. There are very few people I personally know that I wouldn't want to have a gun. And most of those are not in my life anymore.

@Cole Black No, my personal beliefs are very left wing, more left wing than corporate dems, and you'll see more pro gun individuals when you hit the far left. I believe the cat is out of the bag here in the US, but I also believe that adding more guns to the mix does not make things better. More citizens with guns=more criminals with guns, it never ends.(There are over 200,000 guns stolen in property crimes every year in the US, and 80% of those guns are never recovered and are then in the hands of violent criminals) Almost all of the guns that are illegal and in criminal hands originally came from legal gun owners.

There is no real solution to the shooting issue. If they wanted to enact strict gun control or regulations that had actual teeth and would have statistical beneficial effects, it needed to be done 50 years ago, it is far too late now.

@rdizzy1 I'm aware of much of this information. But I was specifically referring to this case in particular. With this kind of person. He did not appear to be on drugs. He just seemed like he was itching for the chance to use his gun to "defend himself." HE might have been more hesitant to draw and shoot if there was a strong possibility he could be shot in return by either the man or the woman involved. Also, I don't want to make any assumptions on your stance regarding gun control. But from your words I take it that you may be in favor of heavier gun control. In which case, let me ask you this: who does gun control affect? In reality, who are the people that are mostly affected by laws preventing average citizens from buying guns through legal channels?

@Emperor Ziko huh, I was always told otherwise. Thanks for the information.

@Cole Black That is insanely incorrect. If what you are saying is true, there wouldn't be situations of people robbing gun stores, or shooting at cops, or robbing homes of tens of guns at once from known gun owners. Every criminal in the entire US pretty much knows there are more guns than humans here, and all these crimes happen anyway. The only difference if every single person here owned a gun would be more shootings in total and more retaliation shootings as well. (Example- Person breaks into your house, you shoot them, a week later you get a drive by on your house and your whole family is now dead.)

Most crimes (especially property crimes, like theft) are done by drug addicts, and usually while they are under the effects for drugs, or possibly in withdrawal. In case you have never seen or known a drug addict, they frequently lack logical thinking ability and the lack of giving a fuck about their actions. A homeowner with a gun isn't going to scare them, they don't care if they die (at the very least they don't fear dying more so than they fear not having drugs), clearly, as they are blasting street fentanyl up their veins 20 times a day. A good anecdotal example for this that I have is someone down the street always had a bunch of crazy pro 2a signs on his lawn, pretty consistently, this led to his house being TARGETED to be robbed, probably because they knew he had plenty of guns in there. They stole 11 guns from his house in total. (this was about 25 years ago or so, in upstate NY)

" just move over and let 'em pass. " - I wish all American drivers would do this. It should be done EVERY time. I've been living in the US for half my life and I still hate American drivers. Why do they hog the left/passing/overtaking lanes on 2 lane highways, rarely check their mirrors and be utterly selfish when driving? If someone wants to go faster than you, just move over and let them passed FFS.  It's called driving courtesy but Americans, in general, never show any driving courtesy on he road. Most other countries do.

@Emperor Ziko state by state have different legislation and also his company may not allow ot

@Cole Black idk who told you that you can't have firearms in a commercial vehicle but it's not true. I've literally been searched with two guns in my truck and they just gave them back to me after they were done looking.

@A Mo i mean maybe but he asked them to leave the property and they didnt. Once that happens i think he’s allowed to talk all he wants

@BlurbyBoo sounds like step dad talked to much! Lol

@Cole Black Yep...trucks kill more than guns do. That dude was itching to cause a situation to shoot someone.  As I understand it he got 20 years.  Probably should have been more.

I had a guy in a pickup truck road raging at me, trying to get me to stop my semi by getting in front of me and braking. I just layed on my highway horn. He didn't keep it up, that thing is ridiculously loud.

@Willy Bones he might have been more hesitant to draw his gun if there was a stronger possibility the other man (or his wife) had one and could return fire. Guys like this are only so confident with their guns because there are too many Americans that are afraid of or against owning guns. The power trip stops if everyone has the power. No, I don't own guns. I'm a truck driver, I can't have firearms in a commercial vehicle. I don't ever want to have to shoot anyone, and my truck is honestly way more dangerous than any pistol.

And the gun nuts want to arm everyone....

And the gun nuts want to arm everyone....

step dad had a gun pulled on him in OUR DRIVEWAY while selling a lawnmower.... things escalated somehow and my step dad said he needs to leave or he will be put into the dirt and the guy pulled a gun...... I hate people that cant wait to defend themselves. they look for any possible opportunity.


Detective: “Did you like,,, ask him to back up?”

Micheal: oh of course not, why?

"If I tell him to back up, then I might not get to shoot him :("

"Why would i, he was already doing that on his own?"

Michael; No, he was already backing up, so I fired into his chest !!...now can I get the hell out of here?! I need to feed my dogs...

@Timur1214 oh for sure, me and fallout new vegas lonesome road dlc make a great couple!

@kade stanford you two are destined to each other <3

@fallout new vegas lonesome road dlc I like your head too :$


All he had to do was pull the gun out. The guy was backing off. This wasn't manslaughter this was a straight up murder.

@E H wait minute theres a video of him backing away. That makes the case right there. He lied in the interrogation saying the dude charged him.

The problem with that, is it is a harder case to make and can be a possible "over charge". There are cases where people were over charged for a crime and the cases were dismissed or person was acquitted, but had they gone for a lesser charge would have gotten a conviction

@Jon Jackson You're not defending your wife because he isn't physically assaulting her. Verbal confrontations happen all the time. You'd be an idiot if you think him pushing the dude was justified. The gun pullout was.

In the U.K this would have been a fist fight at best. In America it's bleeding to death in front of your children. What a freakshow.

@Ricky Janzen he should have minded his business

Yeah but it is harder to get him for murder, I'd say it's better to almost certainly get him for manslaughter than to take the chance that he walks free by going for murder.

@Ricky Janzen I cant imagine a better way to describe this situation.

Only Americans can think that it is ok to aim a gun at someone for being pushed. Period. You guys have to change this absurd mindset. And change you stupid laws on fireweapon...or better...have some.

matt smith No, it wasn’t murder. He was assaulted by a man. He defended himself.

@Francis Balfour Oh I don't disagree, he was clearly in the wrong. The guy did back up. It was okay for him to pull his gun out (even the prosecuting attorney said that) But it was not okay for him to shoot. He was looking for a reason to shoot, in my opinion

Not murder, but manslaughter for sure. Thug started the confrontation by knocking old man down. But you can't shoot someone that is backing away from you

Nope. Marquis the thug started the violence with the push. Don’t bring a push to a gunfight.

I've seen a video or two about someone getting knocked out while standing up, then die from their head hitting the pavement. A push like that is nearly attempting murder as well.

M doesn’t matter her was backing off oh well

Legally it couldn't be murder. Because, it was negligent and reckless. Not knowingly and purposefully.

They would have most lost the case, because of legal definitions had they charge him with murder. They would have to prove he knowingly and purposefully killed him ( which would be almost impossible in this case). So it is better to charge someone with something you know you will win, then to try and stretch your luck and most likely lose.

@harrod19 If you're going to shoot first ask questions later then you're probably better suited not owning a gun to begin with; you create no possible avenue for de-escalation.

He pushed him and waited, and when the gun was drawn he backed off, if he was on top of him winding up to punch him whilst he's down then it would be more reasonable, but that's not what happened, and knowing when to observe when the conflict is de-escalating is an important part of gun ownership, which is why what he did was classed as a crime.

@J0kerclash perhaps not "usually", but it's definitely a possibility. I'm not betting my life in what usually happens. Someone's that violent with me and you'd better believe it's serious now.

@harrod19 Is he pulling a gun or winding up a kick? and it usually doesn't take 3 steps back.

@Ricky Janzen This. The man he shot wanted non of it after Dreika pulled his gun out.

When you have no clue what you’re talking about, it’s better to keep your ignorant comments to yourself

@blappinOncoppaz No, because now you've escalated the situation. Now others would be justified in pulling a gun on you. Best case scenario would have been to call the cops when the lady refused to move her car, he's not a traffic cop.

Also, most people take a step back to "wind up" a kick

Consider the fact that from the downed man's view, it MAY have looked as though the standing man was turning to draw a gun. I know he didn't say that, perhaps the defense lawyer would have if the old man had just shut up.

@matt smith put him in for life? Cant happen this america baby.

@Gunkanjima You do agree that it is right that the man who shot the other man is getting punished though, right? while he had his reason, you have to agree that the man who shot went over the top and just and killed somebody after he backed up and wasn't a threat anymore. I just want to know what side you're on, because i, like you, agree that he shouldn't be charged for  murder, which he wasn't.

@blappinOncoppaz He wouldn't of pushed the old man if he knew he had a gun, that guy was a hot head who pushed him without knowing what was going on. With a name like that you cant talk about what's right and what's not anyway.

@A Real Religious Man You can pull a firearm with the full intention of shooting and then not actually pull the trigger when circumstances change.  That's exactly what should've happened here.  He was fully justified in pulling his gun.  He was just assaulted and put into a very vulnerable position--he had every reason to "intend" to shoot the threat at that moment.  However, as the gun came out, the threat instantly dissipated.  At this moment, Michael should've reassessed the situation and not fired.  That's not brandishing, but simply elevating your defense to match a threat. That defense just needs to adapt as the threat changes, though.

@A Real Religious Man still better than murder! 🤣


As a gun owner it is your responsibility to de-escalate and retreat confrontations to secure the safety of all individuals involved. You shouldn't own a gun if you don't do this.

@TAROT EXCELLENCE none of these things justify what he did; merely explain. I doubt many people would say he probably wasn't afraid, but merely being afraid shouldn't give you license to end someone's life in a civilized society. Even if he were in fear of his life, it would be nonsensical to ignore the context of him just being pushed (which I know everyone in this comment section has been pretending is some tragically terrifying action, but, seriously, it's low-level assault at worst). If you react to being shoved with the use of deadly force, you should:
 1) Not be able to own a weapon like a gun that gives you the ability to kill more easily
 2) Be educated on reasonable force and force amplifiers
 3) Probably get some sort of anger management or other emotional coping skills

@TAROT EXCELLENCE none of these things justify what he did; merely explain. I doubt many people would say he probably wasn't afraid, but merely being afraid shouldn't give you license to end someone's life in a civilized society. Even if he were in fear of his life, it would be nonsensical to ignore the context of him *just* being pushed (which I know everyone in this comment section has been pretending is some tragically terrifying action, but, seriously, it's low-level assault at worst). If you react to being shoved with the use of deadly force, you should:
 1) Not be able to own a weapon like a gun that gives you the ability to kill more easily
 2) Be educated on reasonable force and force amplifiers
 3) Probably get some sort of anger management or other emotional coping skills

oblivion tenant are you telling me that you saw this the first time you saw the video?  Or, did you reach that conclusion after stop, pause, rewind was used?  If you used those things to come to your decision, you failed.  The guy on the ground had 2.5 seconds to realize and react.  He didn’t have the luxury of extra time like the people who are watching the video.

How much can you accomplish in 2.5 seconds?  Especially if you are in a heightened fight or flight frame of mind?

@Pescatoral Pursuit or just start the sentence with "i'm a racist"

TAROT EXCELLENCE - cause he’s supporting a murderer, who killed a father in front of his wife and child for no reason. He tried to act like a father is out of line for protecting his family by shoving a threatening man away from them

Fires And Flowers how is Mr Cee Gee “...promoting violence and death...”?

Well, that doesn't really work out does it. It seems to me that you can only say someone shouldn't own a gun. But as you can see that guy cleared the "test" or whatever to carry a gun, then 20 odd years later he fired it and killed a person. I don't see how that is only his problem when you have a dead father on the other side.

Seems like they can't inhibit that since it infringes upon your rights..


the way he stepped back when the gun was pulled, and didn’t take “one step” like Michael claimed is just awful.

the way he stepped back when the gun was pulled, and didn’t take “one step” like Michael claimed is just awful.

@Zoop Defloop that’s the thing boo. we live in america. every little thing is racist 💀 it has been bread and ingrained into every aspect of our lives. you’re in pure denial if you don’t think so. racism can’t be made illegitimate bc it is a self sustaining system. but go off i guess

@MyChannel if you getting pushed is a "life or death" situation after walking up and inspecting someone's car when
1. Not your property or place of employment
2. You are not a law figure, you have no arresting rights, therefore no approach reason.

Are you just blatantly racist or..

@Twizzy RACIST? Why? How is that even racist?

@Twizzy RACIST? Why? How is that even racist?

@Michaela Jenkins that’s an irrelevant tangent. He said I was racist for my factual comment, that delegitimization real racism. When you call every little thing racist then it loses its meaning

@Infamous News I'm not talking about other cases I'm talking about this one, and he only pushed him because he defending his wife and kids. What would you do if you felt like someone was threatening your family? They both overreacted but he only pushed him and he didn't have a weapon so they was no need to shoot him point blank period. Some people are scary af and they don't need guns if they are gonna kill people over a parking spot.

@Zoop Defloop if calling out racism makes someone a victim.....wouldnt that mean the system of racism, and the people who perpetuate it, CREATE victims? could I dare say that...racism victimizes people??? <b>gasp</b>

@Zoop Defloop if calling out racism makes someone a victim.....wouldnt that mean the system of racism, and the people who perpetuate it, CREATE victims? could I dare say that...racism victimizes people??? *gasp*

@Connor Brearley I disagree I think it’s totally fine that he pulled his weapon. A guy who was much bigger had just shoved him to the ground and initiated a physical altercation. Now he should never have pulled the trigger that was absolutely unjustifiable

@Father Father I am not saying the guy is not an idiot, I guess everyone has this kind of neighbors that is a prick a d annoy the neighborhood watching at every little insignificant things happening in the neighborhood. Still, I find it unfair to say he had, without a doubt, 100% certain, that his intent was murder and not to defend himself after being savagely pushed to the ground. The guy should have minded his own business but it was never reason enaugh to agress him by shoving him this hard on the floor. Being shoved like that on the floor and having a gun on myself, there s a good chance I'd use it too if I don't understand ehat is happening. 4 second is not much to assess the situation, but look at it, the guy that shoved did raise his pants and was about to move forward on the older guy while he was getting up. He only did start moving toward for a brief moment until he noticed the guy was pulling a gun, then he stopped and backed out.

@François Gagnon Lemieux he had enough time to assess the situation, he thought he was some type of hero and that gun gave him too much confidence. He’s an idiot serving 20 years, cope harder.

@Progressive Politics & Cannabis Culture don’t assault people seriously keep the argument verbal it was wrong of him to shoot but in the case of bodily injury it was right to unholster his weapon and again if you don’t want to get shot don’t commit aggravated assault don’t want to lose an eye don’t take one don’t won’t to do the time don’t do the time etc and it’s amazing that half the people condemning him only see color and choose to see it as racism and not the clear AGGRAVATED ASSUALT that it was

@Twizzy for one nothing he said was racist at all people need to stop bringing race into everything it’s unrelated and frankly stupid and he’s not excusing shot he wasn’t 5+ feet away he’s just saying we do need to look at all the details the guy was the aggressor and was obviously about to beat him up pulling a gun out was the right choice I would argue but he didn’t need to shoot the threat was enough to make him back up

@MyChannel i think he just pulled the gun and shot because he was scared. but if he wasnt so worried about people parking in a handicap spot being a vigilante this wouldnt of happened. the guy shouldnt of pushed him either. its just a bad situation

@Steven Thompson aggressor/victim can swap in an instant. the second the man pushed him, he became the aggressor. the second he stepped back, he became the victim again

@M Wilt yeah, you're definitely not from the states if you're surprised by the parade of bigots trying to justify obvious hate crimes. This man instigated the confrontation, intimidated a family, and decided to shoot his gun and kill a man over a minor physical altercation. They'll argue till they're blue in the face about how justified this shooting was, but they're not interested in justice or they'd accept the guilty verdict. No, they just want to either live out their Frank Castle inspired vigilante fantasies either in person or vicariously through another so they can punish the thugs, (i.e. black people) in their neighborhoods. Anyone claiming that this man was acting in self defense or that the father deserved to die is just a violent bigot upset the system did not protect the racist.

@M Wilt he was murdered, because he decided to assault the man instead of using his words

@M Wilt he was murdered, because he decided to assault the man instead of using his words

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid the way you said previous stuff made it seem like you are trying to justify what the dude did simply bc he parked in the handicapped place which was surrounded by free spaces to park, I would understand the upset if everything else was occupied but there is literally a free parking spot like 5 meters away

@Vintage Gamez He was defending his family by assaulting someone with their back turned towards him? Did the shooter assault his family before the altercation or were they just having words?

@Vintage Gamez Once again this all could've been avoided had they not parked in the handicapped parking. Somebody broke the law 1st and it wasn't the shooter.

@Don't drink the Kool-AidI guess no one has looked after you like that. Pulling out the gun was okay but firing it was evil..

@Don't drink the Kool-AidI guess no one has looked after you like that. Pulling out the gun was okay but firing it was evil..

@Matt And people that break laws just exist. Don't break the law if you don't want potential confrontation.

@Matt And people that break laws just exist. Don't break the law if you don't want potential confrontation.

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid No, trigger happy people just exist. You can try blame the victim here as much as you want to, but it’s not his fault.

@What If If you don't park in handicapped spaces & break the law then you won't have to worry about any confrontation. Why not just park in a regular parking space if you want to avoid confrontation?

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid if you dont start an altercation or argument maybe you wont get assaulted. If you don't go to the store, maybe you won't run into crazy people. If you don't live, maybe you wont have to deal with bad people. That's a continuation of that kind of logic. That's stupid, and thats literally blaming a victim that got shot. In the video he said he knew that by approaching the car, he knew he could've started a serious altercation, and that he chose to still continue. So how are you blaming the black guy for protecting his family and not the white guy for starting it all?

@Dio A maybe he shouldn't have been creating an altercation over a handicap parking spot, and the black man wouldn't have felt the need to protect his family. You do realize we can spin this any way we want. Admit that murder is wrong regardless of that shit you're talking about. Like wtf. If he felt threatened he should've just left or even just pointed the gun at him as a warning. People that are too ready to kill someone maybe shouldn't have a gun. That's stupid. Stop defending a racist murderer (not saying he was racist just bc the guy he shot was black, but bc he's actually apparently racist)

@Matt Sure. Then again if you don't assault people you don't have to worry about someone making a split decision with a gun.

@Matt Sure. Then again if you don't assault people you don't have to worry about someone making a split decision with a gun.

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid If someone is backing away from you once you draw your gun there is zero justification to fire. Look at the damn video. He starts backing away and is about to turn around. Very clearly was not going to charge the guy.

@prahanormal and proud of it, I love my people

@prahanormal and proud of it, I love my people

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid don’t defend murderers

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid don’t defend murderers

@helena Don't run around assaulting people. You never know who has a gun on em, he started the altercation.

@helena Don't run around assaulting people. You never know who has a gun on em, he started the altercation.

So you’re totally cool with assault then? Different culture I guess

So you’re totally cool with assault then? Different culture I guess

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid whatt?? Maybe he shouldn’t murder people trying to defend their wives.

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid whatt?? Maybe he shouldn’t murder people trying to defend their wives.

@Steven Thompson neither did they know he was armed. Saying he is a racist is a mere opinion that is not based on evidence. The agressor, even if being an ass was not being  dangerous until he was violently shoved on the ground.

@Helen Webster Because it's much easier to remember the name of a guy who's name is literally in the title of this video that just so happens to be focused on him unlike the guy who was killed.

I am using black as a descriptive term because it's simple and concise and you know who I am talking about. Would you prefer me to draw my sentence out even more and sound ridiculous by saying "if the guy who was shot didn't want to be shot" instead?

@MyChannel I know. In my view the guy was lucky to get just a manslaughter charge and the prick even fought that!

@MyChannel I know. In my view the guy was lucky to get just a manslaughter charge and the prick even fought that!

@Helen Webster Just so you know shoving someone onto a hard surface like concrete can easily kill or lead to serious injury of the victim especially when they don't see it coming like in Drejka's case, this sort of thing happens all the time. If the black guy didn't want to be shot then maybe he should have thought about that before assaulting/attempting to murder someone over a verbal dispute.

@M Wilt how can people be so brainwashed? If you start shit and get hurt thats at the very least partly on you if not entirely on you. This over aggressive man got what was definitely coming to him. Starting fights with random people to protect your right to park wrong wasn't a recipe for a long life now was it?

@Helen Webster he wasn't charged with murder.

@Helen Webster he wasn't charged with murder.

@Connor Brearley Wrong, he was in his right to pull a weapon. Even the officer said this.

@Connor Brearley Wrong, he was in his right to pull a weapon. Even the officer said this.

@Helen Webster its interesting to see their arguments from a non American point of view but also disturbing.
The way i see it, woman parked where she shouldn't have, its a thing, whatever. guy thats larger than her comes over causing a scene about it, her man sees a threat to his woman and pushes him away... gets murdered.

There was not at any point in time a threat to that mans life to be shooting someone square in the chest. He couldn't wait to be 'defending himself'. This is a straight up murder and if these other commentors think parking in a handicapped spot deserves you to die then they lack a grasp on reality... and i have a disabled child, its not worth killing over. Take your knock for intimidating and verbally abusing a woman and walk away. He is not the law he is not above the law, if he had a problem its not his position to even confront, he has options to report it, easy, no life lost. She would get a fine and that kid would still have a dad! But from what i see in other comments there were reports of this man threatening others with his gun and throwing racial slurs, thats who they are defending and thats messed up.

@François Gagnon Lemieux These comments are not stupid. They are based on facts and law. I take it you don’t trade in those things!

@François Gagnon Lemieux These comments are not stupid. They are based on facts and law. I take it you don’t trade in those things!

@Bonesintheocean.mp3 Fucking hell. Pushing someone over now carries a death sentence. Shit, I missed that happening!

@Bonesintheocean.mp3 Fucking hell. Pushing someone over now carries a death sentence. Shit, I missed that happening!

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid Mmm. You’re dangerous.

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid Mmm. You’re dangerous.

@MyChannel No. It was not self defence. Pulling the gun was self defence. Firing it, when the guy was backing off, was murder.

@MyChannel No. It was not self defence. Pulling the gun was self defence. Firing it, when the guy was backing off, was murder.

@Twizzy You do know that if someone is within 12 feet you can cover they can cover that distance within a few seconds and still take your gun, especially when you're on the ground. Even if you hit them a few times if you don't puncture their heart or their brain they can easily shrug off the pain especially with adrenaline.

@Connor Brearley You probly never been blindsighted and tackled hard on the floor...can't believe these stupid comments from know it all persons that obviously never had a rush of adrenalite after falling to the ground, with blurred vision and buzzing sound...Ever heard of people dying when falling on the ground or being severly injured?

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid How about don't shoot people that are already backing up?

@Don't drink the Kool-Aid How about don't shoot people that are already backing up?

@Twizzy quit parking in handicapped spots then and don't assault people that could have weapons.

@Twizzy quit parking in handicapped spots then and don't assault people that could have weapons.

@MyChannel it doesn’t matter that he got pushed he wasn’t in a life or death situation. He shouldn’t have even unholstered his weapon.

@MyChannel it doesn’t matter that he got pushed he wasn’t in a life or death situation. He shouldn’t have even unholstered his weapon.

@Twizzy lmao who’s defending him? I stated a fact. When I look at clouds I see faces, dogs, frogs. You probably see racism 😆 dude saying that he stepped to him was a half truth, you agree, then you make an assumption to put us in a victim state like everyone is racist, that type of victim stuff harms our community as much as racism . Gtfoh

@Zoop Defloop he took 1 step  towards him and was still like 5+ ft away from him so it doesnt matter if he stepped towards him but once he pulled for his gun he instantly stepped back and froze dont defend this murderer one bit racist

He was stepping to him, before he saw the gun. In this situation you could overlook that the person is now actually reversed his direction. This is badly executed self defense, we shouldn't however forget who was the initial aggressor here.

It looked to me like he did pull his pants up and take a step toward him. Then he saw the gun and backed up 3 steps. So it’s a half truth


I saw a pretty bad accident one day on my way to University, a young woman ran a red light, and hit a pedestrian who was crossing. She hit him hard man, like I don’t know anything about vehicular accidents, but I was starting to cross when he was already in the middle of the road, and to my eyes it looked like she was going at least 60 when  she hit. It could have been less? I don’t know, it was intense. He flew onto her windshield and bounced off pretty far. He was pretty fucked up, but still alive, even from my viewpoint I could see his head moving, eyes open, but his arms and body were twisted pretty bad, and I saw blood on his face.

I called triple 0 and left, watching this stuff irl just feels to morbid for me tbh. But, before I left, all I remember is the utter despair of the driver, that young woman. She was sitting on the side of the road, screaming. She was convinced the victim was dead and she was devastated. Even though he was visibly alive. Like this is the only time I’ve ever seen anything like that, but her reaction is the one thing I always remember when I see these videos and I see the reactions the killers have when they are told the victim is dead. Faking that kind of instant and deeply guilty, traumatic emotion would be almost impossible, I’ve seen criminals try and again I remember that woman and her face. And that was true terror at herself for what she thought she had done, I’ll never forget it.

So sad... I'm almost certain I would end up killing myself.

@Flaming Tacos Studios Another situation of “I have no idea what happened but I’m gonna say you were in the wrong anyway.”

Nothing I said was hurt anyone, thanks for budging in though.

@Jenna Mattern That is not a crime if you call 911.

What are you smoking bud?

Not to minimize what you’re saying but when I was like 13 this 16 year old was driving on my street and we had a husky that ran into the street. She killed my dog. It was not her fault and an accident she wasn’t speeding there was nothing she could have done truly. The driver was soooo upset crying as hard as we were and even tho my dog was dead I remember feeling bad for HER. Like she was equally traumatized as we were  and it was just a dog

not everyone reacts the same with faced with bad news. most men are taught since childbirth to suppress their emotions

@Mia I love that you posted this story and I love your response. I would watch your podcast. Lol

@SIMP POLICE Currently looking for therapists that might be able to help you, hang tight. Help is almost there.

@SIMP POLICE are you seriously liking your own comments lmfao

@SIMP POLICE I did say I was gonna die? I don’t remember that? Show me where :)

@SIMP POLICE I didn’t do anything you’re being a bit overdramatic.

@SIMP POLICE hey now, no need to project your insecurities on the internet.

@Jenna Mattern  // it was a busy intersection, there where people everywhere, when I called emergency the person on the line told me they already had a few other ppl on the line calling about the same accident and she asked me to hang up after I gave her my name and number, there was cameras everywhere and the driver didn’t run. There was no need at all for me to stay except to stare at a person who was hurt badly. Having people gather around an accident only prevents emergency and cops from getting to it.

But look, I know none of this matters to you at all, you just want the moral high ground right? Gives you a high, feeling like your telling someone off for doing something bad, right?

That’s kinda sad.

I once hit the rear tire of a bicycle.. I was going very slow as it was a turn and swerved a little because a bike came out of nowhere. Anyway the man on the cycle fell down, no scratches or nothing. I made sure he's ok and apologized so much. But just that shook me up so much and I felt such remorse..

@Giacomo Culcasi No. There is a fine difference between faking emotion and genuine emotion.

I am not an emotive person and i don't know if I would scream or just staying silent, that's scares me because police could misinterpret my behavior :/

There’s this impact video I watched before I recently got my license.

That video made me cry, seeing victims who had successful lives, a family and one was a little baby.

Everyone needs to watch that video before they drive, I thought it was stupid at first because I already knew not to take my eyes off the road but after watching that video and crying for 30 minutes, I will literally never take my eyes off of the road nor run a red light.

@Jenna Mattern they ask for your name and other info when you call triple 0… they can find them to use as a witness if they really wanted. if they didn’t call, then your comment would make sense

So basically you admit to leaving despite being a witness? That's kinda a crime...


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