This is why you should avoid confrontation.  Not because being confrontational is inherently wrong, but because there are way too many nut jobs out there who just want an excuse to kill someone.

This is why you should avoid confrontation.  Not because being confrontational is inherently wrong, but because there are way too many nut jobs out there who just want an excuse to kill someone.

@Alyx Coe protecting his woman from what ? Getting her feelings hurt slightly ? Over a guy asking about a parking space ???? HOW SENSITIVE CAN YOU GUYS BE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Alyx Coe protecting his woman from what ? Getting her feelings hurt slightly ? Over a guy asking about a parking space ???? HOW SENSITIVE CAN YOU GUYS BE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

But I also would've not been out bitching at people over a handicap sign in the first place ..

But I also would've not been out bitching at people over a handicap sign in the first place ..

@Josh Bowen "All I saw was that he was a black guy."

@Josh Bowen "All I saw was that he was a black guy."

@Kantanen Akseli watch the footage again.. Drekja has his arm raised in a threatening position as he is talking (probably yelling) to the woman.

@Kantanen Akseli watch the footage again.. Drekja has his arm raised in a threatening position as he is talking (probably yelling) to the woman.

Scott Aveles Well the law doesn’t agree with you 🤦♂

Scott Aveles Well the law doesn’t agree with you 🤦♂

Saltan Of Swing What an idiotic statement 🤦♂

Saltan Of Swing What an idiotic statement 🤦♂

CF At least someone here knows the facts of this case

CF At least someone here knows the facts of this case

KoKoNutt Only one of them was truly wrong and the complete cause of all of this and it absolutely was not the victim bud

KoKoNutt Only one of them was truly wrong and the complete cause of all of this and it absolutely was not the victim bud

mark watts So Bullying a woman over a parking spot that has absolutely nothing to do with you is ok? You have some twisted morals there kiddo 🤦♂

mark watts So Bullying a woman over a parking spot that has absolutely nothing to do with you is ok? You have some twisted morals there kiddo 🤦♂

Rush Blyat Except for the obvious fact that he was NOT “justified” at all 🤦♂

Rush Blyat Except for the obvious fact that he was NOT “justified” at all 🤦♂

Kantanen Akseli He would have seen it coming if he would have been aware of his surroundings or better yet not actively verbally assaulting the guys girlfriend 🤦♂

Kantanen Akseli He would have seen it coming if he would have been aware of his surroundings or better yet not actively verbally assaulting the guys girlfriend 🤦♂

Not Me Not Me You literally just described a nut case..just saying 😂

Not Me Not Me You literally just described a nut case..just saying 😂

Alpha Wolfgang It’s normal to verbally assault a woman over a parking spot that has nothing to do with you? Real rational “white guy” 🤦♂

Alpha Wolfgang It’s normal to verbally assault a woman over a parking spot that has nothing to do with you? Real rational “white guy” 🤦♂

Christian Deltoro You apparently didn’t see the video of the murder 🤦♂

Christian Deltoro You apparently didn’t see the video of the murder 🤦♂

@private static void you’re arguing with yourself……

@private static void you’re arguing with yourself……

Comments are stupid, yea he “shouldnt have” pushed Drejka , but drejka shouldnt have pulled up, parked and started harassing his wife for no reason, like the whole thing couldve been avoided completely due to drejka which is why people are more critical of him (+ the fact that he killed the dude for no reason. Someone pushes you  push back lol guns make weak people feel strong )

@Christian Deltoro this guy has a history of pulling his gun, he probably would have pulled it even if the guy didn't push him, also avoiding confrontation would be not pushing the guy because he clearly likes pulling out his gun on people which is what the original comment was saying

@Christian Deltoro nah, none of this would've happend if the US were a normal country with normal guns laws, not a crazy place full of toddlers that can buy guns at walmart.

@Christian Deltoro nah, none of this would've happend if the US were a normal country with normal guns laws, not a crazy place full of toddlers that can buy guns at walmart.

@Christian Deltoro would you do the same if you got pushed like that? Would you taught your kid to do the same if you got pushed like that?

@Christian Deltoro would you do the same if you got pushed like that? Would you taught your kid to do the same if you got pushed like that?

@BlenderBanana you should calmly step in and ask if everything is okay and what's going on. Wouldn't it be best to remain calm and slowly try and edge towards the store or where people that are able to help can help. Its tricky, there no way to safely go about this. I would just avoid confrontation at all costs because mfs will be carrying and find any reason to cry about self defense

@BlenderBanana The laziest response I have ever seen lol. "YOure RACist!"

I would have walked up and probably yelled at drejka, not pushed.

The guy shouldn't have been violent from the start of the confrontation, but the other guys shouldn't have harassed the mom in the car, and should have never pulled the gun. getting pushed =/= shooting. period. but to say they couldn't handle this differently, or that they both went to an aggressive option is simply not looking at the facts. drejka was obviously a monster that killed someone though.

@BlenderBanana lol why do you keep deleting your comments? How is he racist saying they’re both in the wrong. Obviously the shooter went way over the line.

@BlenderBanana lol why do you keep deleting your comments? How is he racist saying they’re both in the wrong. Obviously the shooter went way over the line.

@Christian Deltoro he was talking though. He was yelling at a lady in the car with her young children. The ppl inside even heard the commotion.

@Christian Deltoro he was talking though. He was yelling at a lady in the car with her young children. The ppl inside even heard the commotion.

Some people should not take their gun out of the house.

Some people should not take their gun out of the house.

You forgot to add "in USA".<br>Coz the rest of the world is different

You forgot to add "in USA".
Coz the rest of the world is different

@BlenderBanana don't push people and that should increase your life expectancy

@BlenderBanana don't push people and that should increase your life expectancy

@One Above All Micheal Drejka was carrying a gun, and had previously brandished it at a woman during a road-rage incident.

@One Above All Micheal Drejka was carrying a gun, and had previously brandished it at a woman during a road-rage incident.

@Kenny Phelps I had to reread my post as I forgot the context of what your post was. People in neighborhoods are aggressive. Same can be said of certain people in suburbs who take out their guns when a mouse farts. In most rough neighborhoods if you’re disrespecting someone’s wife don’t be surprised if you get a two piece to the face. It would be well deserved. By this opinion/post of yours it sounds like you think it was ok for the murderer to shoot the victim. I was on the fence with this case but JCS clearly explains the reasons why he was arrested, charged, and convicted. If the shooter would have minded his own business, the victim would be alive, the victim’s child would have a father, and the murderer would be out free.

@BlenderBanana probably not assault the guy if they weren't in physical danger

@BlenderBanana probably not assault the guy if they weren't in physical danger

@saguirre760 So you’re saying that people in these neighborhoods are inherently violent? I mean those are your words not mine you’re saying it in the suburbs you can talk to someone like an adult but in “these neighborhoods” that shit won’t fly so you’re telling me that they are inherently violent people huh

@MastaKush427 unfortunately a lot of them do.

@MastaKush427 unfortunately a lot of them do.

@riley bobbert doesn’t justify taking his life

@riley bobbert doesn’t justify taking his life

@BlenderBanana he didnt provoke a fight. he was arguing verbally. then he was pushed hard, which could have killed him. people die from hitting their heads on the ground. you cant take earlier stuff into account or else they would talk about how saint geroge floyd was a career criminal

Uh, how does a man avoid confrontation, involving a racist idiot harming your woman and kid?

Uh, how does a man avoid confrontation, involving a racist idiot harming your woman and kid?

@BlenderBanana Sorry, but having a hot temper isn't a justification for assaulting somebody. You don't have a right to hurt ppl because they say mean things to you or a loved one lol. If you can't control your temper and approach things calmly and rationally, then you have a lot of growing up to do. A man with no self-control is no man at all. Neither of these men displayed such qualities, and now one is dead and one in prison. 99.9% of the time you reap what you sow. 99% of alllll the bad things that happen to you are things you've brought upon yourself in some way.

Sadly, many of those "nut jobs out there looking for an excuse to kill someone" also go by the description of "Cop"

Sadly, many of those "nut jobs out there looking for an excuse to kill someone" also go by the description of "Cop"

@BlenderBanana he was not touching her. Keep hands off!

@BlenderBanana he was not touching her. Keep hands off!

@BlenderBanana he was not touching  her!!

@BlenderBanana he was not touching  her!!

@Strange Universe if that was your understanding from everything I said, then there’s no having a rational conversation with you because nowhere did I say that. Have a good day, stay ignorant

@Strange Universe if that was your understanding from everything I said, then there’s no having a rational conversation with you because nowhere did I say that. Have a good day, stay ignorant

@BlenderBanana holy shit change the subject much? Lol. I know a red herring when i see one.

@BlenderBanana holy shit change the subject much? Lol. I know a red herring when i see one.

@Josh Bowen Do you consider the Presidency of Donald Trump to have been "racist" ?

@Josh Bowen Do you consider the Presidency of Donald Trump to have been "racist" ?

@BlenderBanana thats your opinion. I dont see any evidence that race was a determining factor in any of this. The only evidence you have of racism being a factor is that the man is white.

@BlenderBanana thats your opinion. I dont see any evidence that race was a determining factor in any of this. The only evidence you have of racism being a factor is that the man is white.

@Hayles lmao that was far from "slamming" him on the ground🤔🤔🤔.. That was a push, hard push but nonetheless a push.. nice try tho🤣

@Hayles lmao that was far from "slamming" him on the ground🤔🤔🤔.. That was a push, hard push but nonetheless a push.. nice try tho🤣

@Josh Bowen I am saying Micheal Drejka was relying upon racism for the hope of being permitted to manufacture a murder,

And I am refrencing a pattern in Christians Delonto's accussation, that justifies Drejka's behavior by forcing the murdered man into an archetype as old as America's Caste System; that has been developed in such a way that calling the murdered man "a thug" is as unesscary, as calling him by the "traditional slur".

@BlenderBanana im not favoring the man who shot him at all. And you cannot legally defend someone’s dignity with the use of violent force. Theres nothing racial about it. If someone is threatening the dignity of your loved on you are not legally allowed to use violence to defend your loved ones dignity. If you say that its wrong to use violence against a bon violent person that doesn’t make you a racist. What youre trying to do is pull out the race card so that anything you say automatically becomes truth because if someone disagrees then they’re a<br>Racist.

@BlenderBanana im not favoring the man who shot him at all. And you cannot legally defend someone’s dignity with the use of violent force. Theres nothing racial about it. If someone is threatening the dignity of your loved on you are not legally allowed to use violence to defend your loved ones dignity. If you say that its wrong to use violence against a bon violent person that doesn’t make you a racist. What youre trying to do is pull out the race card so that anything you say automatically becomes truth because if someone disagrees then they’re a
Racist.

@Josh Bowen Christian Deltoro was making it about race by describing a Man Defending the dignity of his partner as "Violent", and "Brutish";

The inferrence is very clear from the trajectory of his arguments and defense of Drejka behavior.

You are falling into the trap of many of America's moderate's where in you are ignoring the consequences of an implication, in favour of the pedant.

@BlenderBanana but your accusing them of racism and using a euphemism for “thug” simply because they said that he was not justified in assaulting the guy. Thats why i believe you are making it about race when no one else had made it about race before you entered the conversation.

@BlenderBanana but your accusing them of racism and using a euphemism for “thug” simply because they said that he was not justified in assaulting the guy. Thats why i believe you are making it about race when no one else had made it about race before you entered the conversation.

@Josh Bowen American discussion one of euphamisms, especially on the topics of Racism.

@Josh Bowen American discussion one of euphamisms, especially on the topics of Racism.

@BlenderBanana oh ok so no one said thug youre just inferring that

@BlenderBanana oh ok so no one said thug youre just inferring that

@riley bobbert But he did not.

Instead he murdered a man, after provoking a fight.

Which was after he brandished his gun at an unarmed woman, on a highway, during a road-ragd incident.

Which is why he was sentanced to twenty years in prison.

@riley bobbert But he did not.

Instead he murdered a man, after provoking a fight.

Which was after he brandished his gun at an unarmed woman, on a highway, during a road-ragd incident.

Which is why he was sentanced to twenty years in prison.

@BlenderBanana he could have died from being pushed over by hitting his head. no rational person would push like that, even if they were "talking" to your family

@BlenderBanana he could have died from being pushed over by hitting his head. no rational person would push like that, even if they were "talking" to your family

@Christian Deltoro I agree with you. The guy was in the wrong for immideatly aussalting him but the shooter was also in the wrong for shooting him

@Christian Deltoro I agree with you. The guy was in the wrong for immideatly aussalting him but the shooter was also in the wrong for shooting him

@Row tell me what I said, repeat it back

@Row tell me what I said, repeat it back

@A.B I am, and I do. I'm the Miss Cleo of this thread, call me now.

@A.B I am, and I do. I'm the Miss Cleo of this thread, call me now.

@jf 5-mars your country has a terrible judiciary system and an even worse PM

@jf 5-mars your country has a terrible judiciary system and an even worse PM

@Christian Deltoro Given the facts in this case, this was not a justification for self defense with deadly force. Yea he pushed him and when Mike drew his weapon the attacker backed up and disengaged. He is no longer the aggressor. It pays to know when and when not shoot.

A certain 17 year old did it best in Wisconsin, especially after fending off his 3rd and final attack, the others backed off and slowly backed away from him when he presented his weapon in their direction. Had he shot those people backing away from him, he would be in prison right now.

If Michael Drejka would not have a gun he will never start that confrontation

If Michael Drejka would not have a gun he will never start that confrontation

@Alpha Wolfgang haha best comment so far. Lmao

@Alpha Wolfgang haha best comment so far. Lmao

[insert comment about how removing the gun from the equation would have resulted in no loss of life, maybe even no initial confrontation]

[insert comment about how removing the gun from the equation would have resulted in no loss of life, maybe even no initial confrontation]

They're both unlikable character, though one more so than the other. Don't park in the handicap space without a sticker. Be more polite when talking to someone. Don't use violence to escalate things. Don't kill someone.

They're both unlikable character, though one more so than the other. Don't park in the handicap space without a sticker. Be more polite when talking to someone. Don't use violence to escalate things. Don't kill someone.

What if the nut job is the one confronting? He's armed and he's standing just feet from your car.

What if the nut job is the one confronting? He's armed and he's standing just feet from your car.

@BlenderBanana  He didn't know what was going on with the conversation. He ran up & escalated things by pushing this guy.  He deserved something bad to happen but white dude with the gun overreached on what was allowed in this circumstance.  For one thing, when you shove someone unexpectantly that hard onto the concrete, you can easily kill them if they hit their head. His butt should have been in jail but maybe not in the ground

@Brett K he got sentenced for manslaughter because he was guilty of manslaughter.  I don't think you understand stand your ground laws as well as you think you do.

@Brett K he got sentenced for manslaughter because he was guilty of manslaughter.  I don't think you understand stand your ground laws as well as you think you do.

@moneyball32 Building point: There wouldn't be a casualty if there were stricter gun laws

@moneyball32 Building point: There wouldn't be a casualty if there were stricter gun laws

@Brett K if you think a thug is someone that parks in a handy cap space……how do you even talk to girls 🤦🏾♂

@Brett K if you think a thug is someone that parks in a handy cap space……how do you even talk to girls 🤦🏾♂

@Dorado De-Escalate. Re-Orient. Appeal to Consequences.

@Dorado De-Escalate. Re-Orient. Appeal to Consequences.

Or don't be a thug and park in handi-cap parking spot if your not handi-cap and don't push someone to ground or attack them for yelling at you for breaking law like wtf common sense.  Thug got shot for it and died end of story stand your ground why he got sentenced for man slaughter is beyond me.

@Daniel Flanard I really appreciate the thoughtfullness of your elaboration.

@Daniel Flanard I really appreciate the thoughtfullness of your elaboration.

@Scott Aveles 😂😂 bet you can’t fight either

@Scott Aveles 😂😂 bet you can’t fight either

@Christian Deltoro<br>You have been dumping the blame on the victim since your first comment, so no, you haven't said the same things boyo; you won't condemn the shooters actions. Anyone who views a bruised ass and a bruised ego as grounds to take someone's life is a little nutty. They say my generation is the morally bankrupt one, good grief.

@Christian Deltoro
You have been dumping the blame on the victim since your first comment, so no, you haven't said the same things boyo; you won't condemn the shooters actions. Anyone who views a bruised ass and a bruised ego as grounds to take someone's life is a little nutty. They say my generation is the morally bankrupt one, good grief.

@Daniel Flanard you’re arguing with yourself here bud, nobody disagreeing with you, in fact I’ve already stated all of this previously. You on the other hand are trying to deny what I’m saying is right and justify your own shit. Read before speaking because you talking to your self at this point.

@Christian Deltoro<br> Sure, how about the several seconds in which he hesitated to pull the trigger after effectively making the threat dissolve. Brandishing a gun in a moment of panic is a justifiable escalation, and it works very well because most people don't want to die over a meaningless dispute, as displayed by the deceased. Since he didn't fire immediately, he had no reason to fire several seconds later once is was obvious that the attacker was backing off. There's also parking illegally to argue with someone about parking illegally, the length and nature of the altercation which ultimately didn't help anyone who would've needed the spot, and in conjunction with the second point, his calm composure during the interrogation. He lost his temper over the misuse of a parking space but was collected after killing someone. Have you really considered the kind of man you're defending?

@Christian Deltoro
 Sure, how about the several seconds in which he hesitated to pull the trigger after effectively making the threat dissolve. Brandishing a gun in a moment of panic is a justifiable escalation, and it works very well because most people don't want to die over a meaningless dispute, as displayed by the deceased. Since he didn't fire immediately, he had no reason to fire several seconds later once is was obvious that the attacker was backing off. There's also parking illegally to argue with someone about parking illegally, the length and nature of the altercation which ultimately didn't help anyone who would've needed the spot, and in conjunction with the second point, his calm composure during the interrogation. He lost his temper over the misuse of a parking space but was collected after killing someone. Have you really considered the kind of man you're defending?

@Christian Deltoro By that logic Drejka instigated the whole thing by approaching a young mother in her car who was not bothering anyone while armed with a gun.

@Christian Deltoro By that logic Drejka instigated the whole thing by approaching a young mother in her car who was not bothering anyone while armed with a gun.

@Daniel Flanard if his mom that is handicapped was there, which she is frequently he says, then it would’ve affected him, so he’s trying to be considerate for others in the situation. What he did to start with was ok in everyone’s book. The other guy came in way aggressive and escalated shit. They could’ve gone about their ways if he hadn’t pushed like that. People are inconsiderate to everyone else. They shouldn’t have been parked there at the end of the day and thought they were entitled to it. So no, try again pal

@Christian Deltoro<br> If we're going to play the finger pointing game, he confronted a lone women over parking in a handicapped space in an empty parking, starting the conflict. Parking in that spot is inconsiderate and illegal, but it didn't personally effect him and certainly didn't warrant his reaction.

@Christian Deltoro
 If we're going to play the finger pointing game, he confronted a lone women over parking in a handicapped space in an empty parking, starting the conflict. Parking in that spot is inconsiderate and illegal, but it didn't personally effect him and certainly didn't warrant his reaction.

@BlenderBanana hey man welcome to America.  Here it's actually perfectly legal to criticize someone for illegally parking in a handicapped spot, and in this country we've decided that people should be able to voice such an opinion without fear of being physically assaulted.

@BlenderBanana hey man welcome to America.  Here it's actually perfectly legal to criticize someone for illegally parking in a handicapped spot, and in this country we've decided that people should be able to voice such an opinion without fear of being physically assaulted.

@Cory C This case is not close to legally justifiable homicide (I'm a lawyer, I would know). He shot him as he was walking away.  He was in no danger. Shooting him while he was being rushed would be another story.

@Cory C This case is not close to legally justifiable homicide (I'm a lawyer, I would know). He shot him as he was walking away.  He was in no danger. Shooting him while he was being rushed would be another story.

Yeah this dude was looking for trouble and he felt an inflated sense of confidence because he legally cared a firearm. People really need to understand the carry laws and potential trouble they come with before taking that step

Yeah this dude was looking for trouble and he felt an inflated sense of confidence because he legally cared a firearm. People really need to understand the carry laws and potential trouble they come with before taking that step

@Michael McGee thanks. I call em like I see em. Are you one of his proud boy buds?

@Michael McGee thanks. I call em like I see em. Are you one of his proud boy buds?

@Dim Jong Un That's a sickly sanctimoniuos post you posted.

@Dim Jong Un That's a sickly sanctimoniuos post you posted.

@Josh Bowen No, they did not delete it. It is an inference from his description of the incident; in which he justifies Micheal Drejka's behavior as a rational response to "being attacked".

@Josh Bowen No, they did not delete it. It is an inference from his description of the incident; in which he justifies Micheal Drejka's behavior as a rational response to "being attacked".

This case is right on the borderline of legal justifiable homicide (the illegal side). Drejka was assaulted. Had Drejka a fallen and cracked his skull open and died, something not impossible with that hard of a push, MgGlockton would have been the one facing murder charges. Had the incident played out the same but Drejka not fired MgGlockton probably would be charged with assault. Personally if the attack was completely unprovoked I would feel Drejka is justified regardless of the law. However here he put himself in a situation that is going to escalate a good percentage of the time, and the coward is carrying a gun showing here he's ready to use it without hesitation. Do I think MgGlockton got what was coming to him? Yes that is my initial reaction to the assault. But you can't go instigating and shooting everyone violent bully you encounter.

@Scott Aveles moral justification in your opinion but not legal justification

@Scott Aveles moral justification in your opinion but not legal justification

No. This is why you shouldn't put your hands on people. That guy assaulted him and got what was coming to him. He got assaulted right back for his trouble.

No. This is why you shouldn't put your hands on people. That guy assaulted him and got what was coming to him. He got assaulted right back for his trouble.

@BlenderBanana i didnt see the thug comment maybe they deleted it, and what michael say that suggested that race was a factor? I must’ve missed that part.

@BlenderBanana i didnt see the thug comment maybe they deleted it, and what michael say that suggested that race was a factor? I must’ve missed that part.

@Josh Bowen It does not justify the actions of the dead man, but it is certainly relevant to the culpability of Micheal Drejka.

Provoking a fight, is not a shield from justice when the consequences of your behavior lead to tragedy.

@Josh Bowen It does not justify the actions of the dead man, but it is certainly relevant to the culpability of Micheal Drejka.

Provoking a fight, is not a shield from justice when the consequences of your behavior lead to tragedy.

@Josh Bowen The person I was replying to called the Murdered man a "Thug", which in America has been a Racial-Designator since the 80's. See, "Trayvon Martin", or "Breonna Taylors Boyfriend for examples of the right villifying the victems by refering to them as such.

As to the element of race, on the subject of Micheal Drejka (and his interraction during interregotation), pretending that it did not play a role in the decisions leading to this foolishness is either disengenuous or naieve.

@Alex bellamy shoving someone to the ground could be considered deadly force, people have been pushed or punched and hit their head on the concrete and died.

@Alex bellamy shoving someone to the ground could be considered deadly force, people have been pushed or punched and hit their head on the concrete and died.

@moneyball32 true that he didnt have to confront the woman about where she parked, but Michael didn’t initiate violence, but he certainly escalated it after the other man initially assaulted him.

@moneyball32 true that he didnt have to confront the woman about where she parked, but Michael didn’t initiate violence, but he certainly escalated it after the other man initially assaulted him.

@BlenderBanana why do you feel compelled to bring race into this conversation? No one said anything about race or anyone being a thug until you showed up.

@BlenderBanana why do you feel compelled to bring race into this conversation? No one said anything about race or anyone being a thug until you showed up.

@BlenderBanana doesnt matter if theyre “harassing your wife” if they are standing at a distance and using words and you walk up and initiate violent force, you are the aggressor. Violent force can only justifiably be used to stop violence or the imminent threat of violence. You being furious at someone is not a justified reason to assault them.

Or you could vote for regulation that would prevent stuff like this... This usually never happens where I live because people cant just walk around with weapons just because they are Fing cowards and cant handle regular life and act like their little town is Mogadishu or something.

Or you could vote for regulation that would prevent stuff like this... This usually never happens where I live because people cant just walk around with weapons just because they are Fing cowards and cant handle regular life and act like their little town is Mogadishu or something.

Think so as well. Why push a man to the ground? I would never do that just because someone says something i dont like. He got punished for that pretty hard. Wayy too hard of course, by our law and standards. But in other countries or other times: being that aggressive and disrespectful often meant death.

People have gotten killed for being kind

People have gotten killed for being kind

@weavergrad It could be different with mechanisms that prevents actual nazis to become police officers.

@weavergrad It could be different with mechanisms that prevents actual nazis to become police officers.

@Koba no, and i don’t appreciate those words. I’m saying all could have been different in how they chose conflict. Of course he didn’t deserve to be shot.

@Koba no, and i don’t appreciate those words. I’m saying all could have been different in how they chose conflict. Of course he didn’t deserve to be shot.

Or maybe you just don’t go up to someone in that way, push them. I teach how to more appropriately confront and it can be done in much more beneficial ways.

Or maybe you just don’t go up to someone in that way, push them. I teach how to more appropriately confront and it can be done in much more beneficial ways.

@Christian Deltoro "The guy deserved to be shot, he pushed a guy down to the ground." you are saying.

@Christian Deltoro "The guy deserved to be shot, he pushed a guy down to the ground." you are saying.

@Christian Deltoro You're out of your mind.

@Christian Deltoro You're out of your mind.

@Christian Deltoro Some people see racism in absolutely every situation. I see nothing about your comment that was racist.

@Christian Deltoro Some people see racism in absolutely every situation. I see nothing about your comment that was racist.

Well confrontation is not inherently wrong but yea

Well confrontation is not inherently wrong but yea

This only applies to countries where anyone can have a gun of course. Otherwise confrontation solved many conflicts in a peaceful way for me

This only applies to countries where anyone can have a gun of course. Otherwise confrontation solved many conflicts in a peaceful way for me

@Guillaume Brouillard Fair idea, however when everyone else isn't playing by your rules and carries a gun?

@Guillaume Brouillard Fair idea, however when everyone else isn't playing by your rules and carries a gun?

@Christian Deltoro The victim shouldn't have shoved the shooter, no.... but its hardly justification for shooting him. Every bar fight, every street tussle, every sporting event where fans get a little too drunk and raucous would end in a fatal shooting if we all thought that.

@Christian Deltoro The victim shouldn't have shoved the shooter, no.... but its hardly justification for shooting him. Every bar fight, every street tussle, every sporting event where fans get a little too drunk and raucous would end in a fatal shooting if we all thought that.

"This is why you should avoid confrontation."

No, this is why you should have laws that stop the mentally unstable from owning guns, let alone carrying them around. And the main reason for this is to stop them from getting hot-headed and killing someone over a trivial f*cking incident in a car park.

Would Drejka have used a knife if he didn't have a gun? Maybe, but it's a lot less likely because using a knife, even against an unarmed person, requires that you get within striking distance so you might end up getting a beating instead. That's if Drejka even has the balls to fight at all, there's a reason he chose a gun over intelligent conversation.

And no, avoiding confrontation just means the bullies get whatever they want. The problem here is not that there was an conflict, the problem is that Drejka had a gun.

"This is why you should avoid confrontation."

No, this is why you should have laws that stop the mentally unstable from owning guns, let alone carrying them around. And the main reason for this is to stop them from getting hot-headed and killing someone over a trivial f*cking incident in a car park.

Would Drejka have used a knife if he didn't have a gun? Maybe, but it's a *lot* less likely because using a knife, even against an unarmed person, requires that you get within striking distance so you might end up getting a beating instead. That's if Drejka even has the balls to fight at all, there's a reason he chose a gun over intelligent conversation.

And no, avoiding confrontation just means the bullies get whatever they want. The problem here is not that there was an conflict, the problem is that Drejka had a gun.

@Christian Deltoro while there are definitely people that don't understand what they're talking about at all. Reacting to them by calling them the true racist social justice warrior children looking for the next enemy..does just as much harm, if not more, as the misunderstanding they originally had. It fuels that possible mentality of an enemy in every comment, and that hurts everyone involved. Things are changing very very quickly, compared to how stagnant things were for a long time. It makes sense there's confusion and anger, some of which might be directed at the wrong target. I appreciate your effort to have a rational conversation, but instead of trying to explain why they're wrong. Find a common ground you can agree on first. Like the planet burning more each day, or pollution killing our environments. We should ALL be on the same side there(yet some people are not). After you've realized you aren't that different, then bring up the uglier topics. Much less chance for aggression on both sides, who knows, you may learn something new about them and their life.

@Skelly Scary Why would you say that? I have not found a single clue towards any racist ideas in any of Christian Deltoro's comments. The only two people I've seen bring race up in this discussion are you and another person to blame Christian for racism.<br>He's just saying that agressive overreaction is a bad thing, on both sides. Both guys overreacted, each time bringing the conflict to a worse level. Obviously the shooter is wrong for shooting this guy and it is very sad that had to happen. But not overreacting on either side could have prevented all this.

@Skelly Scary Why would you say that? I have not found a single clue towards any racist ideas in any of Christian Deltoro's comments. The only two people I've seen bring race up in this discussion are you and another person to blame Christian for racism.
He's just saying that agressive overreaction is a bad thing, on both sides. Both guys overreacted, each time bringing the conflict to a worse level. Obviously the shooter is wrong for shooting this guy and it is very sad that had to happen. But not overreacting on either side could have prevented all this.

You'd be surprised how much longer you live minding your own shit.

You'd be surprised how much longer you live minding your own shit.

@BlenderBanana I  wouldn't knock them on their ass as my first action, no. People downplaying the stupidity of that are being dishonest. It's AS ridiculous to use that amount of force about a conversation AS it was for Drejka to shoot him after he was backing up. Both were extremely stupid levels of escalating force beyond what situation called for. Except the first one didn't kill anyone. There's a world where Drejka collapses and hits his head and dies if he's an older man and you shove him like that. Equally stupid actions. Just one had worse consequences AS it played out, that's all.

@Christian Deltoro you really want Trump again I bet

@Christian Deltoro you really want Trump again I bet

@moneyball32 The guy who murdered the other guy simply spoke.  don't pretend like thats on the same level as someone introducing violence by pushing someone.  Thats just dumb.

@moneyball32 The guy who murdered the other guy simply spoke.  don't pretend like thats on the same level as someone introducing violence by pushing someone.  Thats just dumb.

All over a parking spot my first thought was excessive force.

All over a parking spot my first thought was excessive force.

I don’t live in the states or anything, but I feel as if anyone were able to holster a weapon where ever, it makes peoples naturally aggressive. I don’t know, but I still don’t want to make excuses for this guy cause he looks like he just wanted trouble.

I don’t live in the states or anything, but I feel as if anyone were able to holster a weapon where ever, it makes peoples naturally aggressive. I don’t know, but I still don’t want to make excuses for this guy cause he looks like he just wanted trouble.

@Publius The Federalist and was given 20 years+ for killing someone in the wrong. Is that enough for you?

@Publius The Federalist and was given 20 years+ for killing someone in the wrong. Is that enough for you?

@Christian Deltoro Right on , homey thought it was just going to be another 1 sided assault. Not today.

@Christian Deltoro Right on , homey thought it was just going to be another 1 sided assault. Not today.

@dhvyse he wasn't in the right, he parked in a handicap spot like a POS and then through someone on the ground for confronting him and his girlfriend about it.

@dhvyse he wasn't in the right, he parked in a handicap spot like a POS and then through someone on the ground for confronting him and his girlfriend about it.

Exactly. Being in the right doesn't mean you're safe from harm from a psycho with a gun. Assume anyone in America is carrying.

Exactly. Being in the right doesn't mean you're safe from harm from a psycho with a gun. Assume anyone in America is carrying.

@Penguin of Death Nobody is defending the shooter, the point is that you don't just randomly assault people even if they are being annoying for the simple reason that they can be a maniac with a gun. If that guy didn't push him and simply got in his car and left, he'd be alive right now, but because he wanted to be a big alpha male beating up the guy bothering his girlfriend now he's dead, that's all.

This is why you shouldn't assault people* fixed it.

This is why you shouldn't assault people* fixed it.

@Christian Deltoro He himself prompted the whole confrontation. Then shooting someone for pushing you over? Get real...

@Christian Deltoro He himself prompted the whole confrontation. Then shooting someone for pushing you over? Get real...

Also something that anyone who carries concealed should know, to avoid confrontation whenever possible because it's a liability.

Also something that anyone who carries concealed should know, to avoid confrontation whenever possible because it's a liability.

@Andy Carver Micheal Drejka had a history of drawing his weapon in frustration, in non-threatening situations;

the relevant instance here is that he pulled a gun on a woman during a road-rage incident in which he was charged with brandishing.

That case was 3 years priors to the murder of Mkaries Mcglockton

@Andy Carver Was he "dedending himself" when he brandished a gun at another driver on a highway?

@Andy Carver Was he "dedending himself" when he brandished a gun at another driver on a highway?

@BlenderBanana They do. So do Yellow, Brown, Red, Green and White. What is your point? Can you stop being racist?

@BlenderBanana They do. So do Yellow, Brown, Red, Green and White. What is your point? Can you stop being racist?

@Ben Coon yea, we know….. you arguing with yourself lol

@Ben Coon yea, we know….. you arguing with yourself lol

Well someone yelling to my gf for over 5 minute is reason enought for a push..if hes too weak to be able to stand up and first reflex is to shot..then ye put that nutjob in jail for a while..he initiated the confrontation.

Well someone yelling to my gf for over 5 minute is reason enought for a push..if hes too weak to be able to stand up and first reflex is to shot..then ye put that nutjob in jail for a while..he initiated the confrontation.

@KoKoNutt The guy was illegally parked himself & had previous incidents of pulling out his gun in road rage incidents. The guy was a psycho badgering a woman & child over a parking space that did not impact him.

@KoKoNutt The guy was illegally parked himself & had previous incidents of pulling out his gun in road rage incidents. The guy was a psycho badgering a woman & child over a parking space that did not impact him.

@Christian Deltoro As the DA said, he was justified in drawing his firearm but not in discharging it once he began backing up.

@Christian Deltoro As the DA said, he was justified in drawing his firearm but not in discharging it once he began backing up.

disagreed, both are in the wrong, the first guy went too far pushing the other guy, he was mad at the woman for illegally parking in a handicap spot which is understandable the first guy made it a confrontation by pushing the man but the second man is definitely also in the wrong for shooting him.

And bully smaller ppl by knocking them to the floor for no reason.

And bully smaller ppl by knocking them to the floor for no reason.

@Rush Blyat Except he wasn't, because, ya know...he's now in jail for killing someone without justification.

@Rush Blyat Except he wasn't, because, ya know...he's now in jail for killing someone without justification.

@BlenderBanana He was using words. Stick and stones… it’s part of being a civil person. I wouldn’t aggressively assault someone for blabbing at someone I care about. And it doesn’t have to be a woman like you characterize.

@BlenderBanana He was using words. Stick and stones… it’s part of being a civil person. I wouldn’t aggressively assault someone for blabbing at someone I care about. And it doesn’t have to be a woman like you characterize.

Not Me Not Me him thinking self defense allows you to shoot someone that’s backing away just cause he shoved him does make him a nut job lmao

Not Me Not Me him thinking self defense allows you to shoot someone that’s backing away just cause he shoved him does make him a nut job lmao

@BlenderBanana I'm not starting off with slamming the person to the ground as hard as I can.... This is the reaction if you came out of the store on he was actively beating the woman right there in front of you.

@BlenderBanana I'm not starting off with slamming the person to the ground as hard as I can.... This is the reaction if you came out of the store on he was actively beating the woman right there in front of you.

That's exactly why I let more people than I probably should act like a tough guy bc it's just not worth it. You never kno what can happen and I'm especially more logical since I have kids now. Especially this guy being in his 40s and starting drama like just go in the store and keep your comments to yourself man! He's carrying a gun and most people that carry a gun for "self defense" are either looking for trouble and just looking for any reason to shoot or in my honest opinion they are deathly afraid in general!

Since when is justified "confrontation" assaulting someone from behind? This story would be very different if the pushed guy had hit his head hard. Sure, he overreacted a LOT but you can't call the other guy innocent either, he also overreacted

Since when is justified "confrontation" assaulting someone from behind? This story would be very different if the pushed guy had hit his head hard. Sure, he overreacted a LOT but you can't call the other guy innocent either, he also overreacted

Only in the USA , avoiding the confrontation will not be a long term solution . Come here in Canada , we don't have these problem , and the main problem i see here is not humain poor judgement , but the easy possibility that anyone can carry a weapon . Take the weapon off the situation before hands , and we have no murder, and no case .

@Not Me Not Me someone who thinks self defense allows you to shoot someone who is running away from you IS a nutcase imo 😒

@Not Me Not Me someone who thinks self defense allows you to shoot someone who is running away from you IS a nutcase imo 😒

I don’t think Michael was a nut job. I just think he was mistaken about self defense laws and got it wrong. He thought it was justifiable when it wasn’t (there was no risk to life and it wasnt his last resort).<br>Unfortunately once he pulled that trigger there’s no going back.

I don’t think Michael was a nut job. I just think he was mistaken about self defense laws and got it wrong. He thought it was justifiable when it wasn’t (there was no risk to life and it wasnt his last resort).
Unfortunately once he pulled that trigger there’s no going back.

@BlenderBanana i would go ask them whats going on, but im white so its normal for us to talk before acting.

@BlenderBanana i would go ask them whats going on, but im white so its normal for us to talk before acting.

@Alex bellamy you’re making your own argument lol

@Alex bellamy you’re making your own argument lol

@Christian Deltoro a push does not get you killed man, pulling the trigger does, big difference right there

@Christian Deltoro a push does not get you killed man, pulling the trigger does, big difference right there

@Christian DeltoroCounterpoint: it also wouldn't have happened if the guy didn't start something with a gun and shoot at the unarmed guy as he was retreating.

@Christian DeltoroCounterpoint: it also wouldn't have happened if the guy didn't start something with a gun and shoot at the unarmed guy as he was retreating.

@Christian Deltoro That is your racism, turning an alarmed boyfriend into a "Thug".

You need to be Better.

@Christian Deltoro That is your racism, turning an alarmed boyfriend into a "Thug".

You need to be Better.

@BlenderBanana I don’t think that guy would’ve pushed him if he had a gun himself. Who knows how he would’ve handled it differently

@BlenderBanana I don’t think that guy would’ve pushed him if he had a gun himself. Who knows how he would’ve handled it differently

@BlenderBanana they’re both acting out on immediate overreaction on a situation because of their beliefs of a threat on the other side. Get it?

@BlenderBanana they’re both acting out on immediate overreaction on a situation because of their beliefs of a threat on the other side. Get it?

@BlenderBanana I wouldn’t go up and push them I was just step in between and ask what’s happening while being assertive yet deescalating at the same time. Done it many times

@BlenderBanana I wouldn’t go up and push them I was just step in between and ask what’s happening while being assertive yet deescalating at the same time. Done it many times

@Christian Deltoro Drejka was harassing the victems wife.

If you walked into the parking lot, and some creep was badgering your Mother, Wife, or Daughter;

Would you be calculating and rational, or would you be furious?

@Christian Deltoro Drejka was harassing the victems wife.

If you walked into the parking lot, and some creep was badgering your Mother, Wife, or Daughter;

Would you be calculating and rational, or would you be furious?

Nah, none of that would’ve happened if the other guy didn’t push him for talking. He’s in the wrong first, then this guy is in the wrong. Obviously the shooter is more wrong but this wouldn’t have happened if the guy didn’t push

Nah, none of that would’ve happened if the other guy didn’t push him for talking. He’s in the wrong first, then this guy is in the wrong. Obviously the shooter is more wrong but this wouldn’t have happened if the guy didn’t push

"Would you be willing to spend the rest of your life in Prison, or Die?"

No?

Then go on about your business.

"Would you be willing to spend the rest of your life in Prison, or Die?"

No?

Then go on about your business.


The most terrifying thing is that it took 19 minutes for paramedics to get to a gunshot victim

The most terrifying thing is that it took 19 minutes for paramedics to get to a gunshot victim

I'm sure it was in a shit neighborhood where they don't put taxes towards things like that. Those people don't live in the best places ya know

@Corky They aren't going to send out a helicopter for a location less than 20 minutes away in a crowded city.

@Corky They aren't going to send out a helicopter for a location less than 20 minutes away in a crowded city.

@Visassess helicopters aren't available?

@Visassess helicopters aren't available?

@mmmk you know, there is no illimited supply of ambulance, and person to drive the so called ambulance. Also trafic can be a bitch. Also sometimes what take the longer time, is just to take the phone call that lead to the ambulance rushing at the place of the tragedy. People often are to panic to answer the question correctly. Sometimes they don't listen the question you have to ask them, or they can even protest and waste some time before actually answering. When a bullet is fire at someone, there is no automatic bat signal that appears in the air. Most of the time the blame for late emergecy team arrival, is to blame on multiple factor. 19 minutes really is a great timer. Also, did you actually knew that most of emergency services, are most of the time, greet with some random dude, telling them they are to late and yelling at them. We are trying our fucking best. And we are sorry for the time we are to late, if we had to choose, don't have to think about it twice, we would save everyone. But it's not a matter of choice you see? And most of us handle very badly when people come to die because we wasn't able to save them. It's easy to blame us, because we are the person that should have save your relative.

@Keep crying There’s a difference between calling an ambulance and calling in a chopper to be airlifted out. In rural towns airlifting patients is a very common thing especially how far away the hospital is and the severity of the emergency.

Yea try not to get shot in a bad neighborhood, it’s a death sentence.

Yea try not to get shot in a bad neighborhood, it’s a death sentence.

and this was in clearwater which isnt a bad bad place

and this was in clearwater which isnt a bad bad place

@Derrick Oneal clearwater is a big city I live there

@Derrick Oneal clearwater is a big city I live there

In my country's capital it sometimes takes more than 12 hours for an ambulance to respond to an emergency, regardless of the time of day.

19 is damn good depending where you live

19 is damn good depending where you live

That's 'THE MOST TERRIFYING THING' are you serious...

That's 'THE MOST TERRIFYING THING' are you serious...

@Jappie That's because the Netherlands is a better country than America, in pretty much every conceivable way. But Americans will ignore this fact and continue to declare that they have "the best response time in the world" lmao

for a shooting ems cant go on scene until it’s verified to be safe.  this can take longer than people think, especially for a shooting.

for a shooting ems cant go on scene until it’s verified to be safe.  this can take longer than people think, especially for a shooting.

The UK had  free universal healthcare and the best response times until the U.S. private healthcare invaded.

#SaveOurNHS

#EndYankeeOccupationOfBritain

Here in the Netherlands there is a rule that an ambulance should be present at the scene within 6 minutes. Any place, any time of day. No matter how rural

@Dan You spelled "white neighborhoods" wrong

@Dan You spelled "white neighborhoods" wrong

@Memecream false,  EMS/Fire is allowed to exceed speed limits when responding to emergency calls. We still have to proceed with caution and we are not allowed to fly through red lights and stop signs. There is a law called Due Regard that basically states that a driver of a rescue truck or fire apparatus can be held liable if he or she drives like an asshole and gets in an accident.

That's the first thing that stood out to me as well

That's the first thing that stood out to me as well

@mmmk I live near this area and the nearest hospital from this place is about 10-15 minutes away.. regardless though it shouldn't have taken that long

@Memecream Exactly, people assume ambulances or the cops start moving right away and drive straight to the scene at 80 mph

@Memecream Exactly, people assume ambulances or the cops start moving right away and drive straight to the scene at 80 mph

@Visassess  for real, are none of y'all accounting for real life traffic

@Visassess  for real, are none of y'all accounting for real life traffic

@Memecream You're right, but 19 minutes is inexcusable. We don't know the circumstances, maybe something happened that caused it to take that long but even with condensed traffic they control it.

America is pretty spread out yes, at the same time we do have places that highly condensed. That means traffic, foot, bicycle and car. Like i remember that just in the early 2000s emergency services put out that they would follow speed limits and basically safely drive slightly faster than you. That's because we ended up getting more traffic and sometimes chases, rescue and fire emergency and other wrecks happen because of it.

@Cody Ginther 19 minutes is very bad. Especially for a GSW.

@Cody Ginther 19 minutes is very bad. Especially for a GSW.

@mmmk I don't think it's a funding issue, it's a logistics issue. We don't know the circumstances that caused the ambulance to take that long, but I don't think throwing more money at it would fix anything unless there was a shortage of medical personnel/vehicles/locations. But adding more ambulances to a crowded city doesn't make them get to their destinations any faster.

A .45 response time is less then a second

A .45 response time is less then a second

ambulances have to get clearance from law enforcement before they are allowed to enter the scene and help the victim!!! only fireman and police are allowed on the scene for like the first 30 minutes atleast

@Derrick Oneal If you want to know what the words "spread out" mean, come to Australia.

@Derrick Oneal If you want to know what the words "spread out" mean, come to Australia.

That's why you call from the pay phone and say "officer down need immediate help by police and medical emergency services!" and hang up.

That's why you call from the pay phone and say "officer down need immediate help by police and medical emergency services!" and hang up.

@Derrick Oneal Russia is spread out, half the population, more than double the area. The reason as to why it takes emergency services so much time to reach a shot person in USA is because that shot person is not the only one.

They have other things to do. Caught in traffic? Blocked traffic? In the city he was lucky it was 19 minutes

They have other things to do. Caught in traffic? Blocked traffic? In the city he was lucky it was 19 minutes

(Depending on the part of town) it's not. When I was younger and still with my ex husband I used to live in the worst part of town in my area and the cops barely even go near it because it's so fucked up. So when someone is being hurt or robbed IF the cops show up it will be quite a while before they get there. It's fucked up but true. In a way I get it but at the same time it's like... Your cops. You're supposed to put your life on the line for others. That's the whole purpose of them so... Do your fuckin job, y'know?

My wife grew up on the Navajo Nation. The Indian Health Services ambulance is notorious for taking forever to respond due to lack of staffing and the remote nature of the reservation. Her grandma fell out at her ranch a few years back, i called the dispatch and they told me it would be 45 minutes to an hour. We had to meet them half way with my father in laws truck, flagged then down as they approached and they took her to the closest IHS hospital in Tuba City.

Its worth noting that Paramedics wont arrive to the scene until Police have cleared the area from any potential danger. This makes sense, considering there have been cases as recently as earlier this year when Paramedics have been attacked and even killed by their patients or by unrelated bystanders.

Lmao that does sound like a lot to me In NYC. They’ll be anywhere in like 3-4 mins lol

Lmao that does sound like a lot to me In NYC. They’ll be anywhere in like 3-4 mins lol

@easypistachios I'm aware, I was responding to the commenter who said a 19 minute response time was the norm overall.

@easypistachios I'm aware, I was responding to the commenter who said a 19 minute response time was the norm overall.

@literal antifa terrorist "standard response time" doesn't mean much when, as stated by an above commenter, the physical distance between the nearest hospital and the gas station takes 11 minutes to travel with idea traffic.  Plus dispatch and preparation time.  19 minutes is reasonable

@Dan Nah. The standard for response times is that 90% of ambulance response times should be under 13 minutes, and for fire departments (which almost always respond to medical calls as well) under 6 minutes. It's absurd to think 20 minutes is fine.

They might have been volunteers which would've added significant response time.

They might have been volunteers which would've added significant response time.

@Cody Ginther

Giving an anecdote about a worst scenario doesn't make the lesser one better 😂 ya'll gotta stop thinking in rank order.

@Cody Ginther

Giving an anecdote about a worst scenario doesn't make the lesser one better 😂 ya'll gotta stop thinking in rank order.

@mmmk Maybe you feel embarrassed all the time for reasons other than America.

@mmmk Maybe you feel embarrassed all the time for reasons other than America.

@KingRezz Don't believe everything you read online

@KingRezz Don't believe everything you read online

@mmmk The video also said that it happened at 3:30 PM and doing a quick Google search, 11 minutes is the best right now. There's also the fact that paramedics can't just teleport to their ambulance meaning they wouldn't start moving right away. Another factor is that it takes time for a 911 call to be made and an ambulance to be dispatched. Okay now imagine all of these things and it's the afternoon and there is tons of traffic, it makes perfect sense why it'd be 19 minutes but you don't seem to care about the reality of the situation, you just wanted to use this perceived wrongdoing (which it isn't) to complain.

It's not ideal, I waited an hour on the phone while I was in anaphalaxis once when I lived ten minutes drive away from a hospital. Resources are horribly stretched

Maybe the medic that was stationed in the area was on another call and another station obviously farther away was sent.

Maybe the medic that was stationed in the area was on another call and another station obviously farther away was sent.

@Wuntler tumbo I dont speak jogger. Can you translate to English please.

@Wuntler tumbo I dont speak jogger. Can you translate to English please.

Even 5 mins wouldn't have saved him with the equipment they have, as he got shot in the lung and heart and as the prosecutor said "Perfect (kill) shot" I dont think anything could have saved him, sadly.

@Redd Bendd I wouldn't have moved him if I was his partner. Probably not the right thing to do, but 🤷

@Redd Bendd I wouldn't have moved him if I was his partner. Probably not the right thing to do, but 🤷

I was thinking this too but remembered that police usually are required to be sure there is no longer a threat before paramedics can arrive. So I’m sure some of that time is the police clearing the scene

@quicksilver b They werent in an unpopulated area. I wouldnt have made the comment i did if they were. The end. You act like its some revelation that if people live out in the sticks medical services will take longer. No shit Sherlock

@Lebaron Jim I literally said that in my comment that somebody else already commented saying that wasn't the case in this specific situation. I merely said it is possible because another commenter said it wasn't. But it is if you live in that type of area. If you actually read you would know that, it's already been acknowledged. So thanks for your pointless comment.

@Cody Ginther This wasnt a rural area....

@Cody Ginther This wasnt a rural area....

@quicksilver b did this occur in a small town area away from hospitals? NO Stop making that comparison. Did you even watch the video. It clearly says where the incident took place

I see that somebody has commented that it's still ridiculous that it took 20 mins because it's not that type of area.. but I live in a small town. It's 35 mins away from any hospitals/medical care of any type but we still have a couple gas stations.

no one drove him to the hospital??? especially the dude who shot him or the girl in the car

no one drove him to the hospital??? especially the dude who shot him or the girl in the car

@mmmk I agree with you on that one. Change needs to be made

@mmmk I agree with you on that one. Change needs to be made

@Patrick O'Neill Clearwater isn't the boonies.

@Patrick O'Neill Clearwater isn't the boonies.

@Derrick Oneal This happened in Clearwater. It's not rural, and it's not spread out. There are parts of Pinellas County that are both, but not Clearwater. It's a tech, tourism and Scientology town. They also host MLB spring training. There's no excuse for that response time. There are level 1 trauma centers in the same county. They could have sent a helicopter FFS. GSW to the chest is level 1.

@Cody Ginther Clearwater isn't rural.😂😂😂

@Cody Ginther Clearwater isn't rural.😂😂😂

@Cody Ginther That store isn't that isolated.

@Cody Ginther That store isn't that isolated.

@mmmk wealth has nothing to do with ambulance times. Do you not understand the size of that country? every single town is different in that country, some ambulances will arrive quickly, others will be delayed. What is your comment?

@mmmk lmaooo I stop at a gas station that is like 45 minutes away from any emergency services all the time.

@mmmk lmaooo I stop at a gas station that is like 45 minutes away from any emergency services all the time.

sucks living in the boonies doesnt it. here in CT might be quicker if 95 isnt in a stand still

sucks living in the boonies doesnt it. here in CT might be quicker if 95 isnt in a stand still

@mmmk Probably the terrible road design and spread-out-ness of america

@mmmk Probably the terrible road design and spread-out-ness of america

@mmmk america is super spread out, idk where your from but i think it’s easy to underestimate that, there’s gas stations out in the middle of nowhere here

@Cody Ginther a gas station is gonna be located in town though, it's not exactly like they're out by the farms.  I think a country as wealthy as America has a moral obligation to better subsidize adequate emergency services in rural and low income areas -- it's not fair people die because they lived in the wrong zip code. Obviously in rural areas, you're gonna have to leave the area for specialized/intensive care, but it's not like people in rural areas don't get shot or don't get mangled in equipment. To not even be able to get basic emergency response to a gas station within 20 minutes? It's embarrassing to be American at this point with how bad of a job we're doing. I mean, what if there'd been a fire??

19 minutes isn’t too bad. I live in a rural area and the ranch I work at had an emergency once that took an hour and a half for any first responders to show up. We got lucky and the guy recovered fully in a few months


I will never forget my stepdad pulling his gun in a confrontation. I was 12. I remember watching my stepdad get punched very hard in the face. He never fired a shot. He was barely standing up and was obviously stunned yet he had the awareness to recognize that the situation instantly de-escalated the moment he drew his weapon, exactly like what happened in this video. My stepdad would have said as soon as the dude started to step away, pulling the trigger would be murder and not self defense.

@Faktor114 Also sweden has a low crime rate

@Faktor114 i implore you to do some digging about countries outside of america. even if guns aren't available, people will still use what they can to carry out violence. humans by nature are flawed, and that's usually okay and fixable (based on the fact that we are humans and thus are usually able to ignore animalistic instincts or at least know what the consequences of their actions are), but an unfortunate amount of us slip between the cracks. for example, the UK has a huge problem with how they treat their jewish and romani citizens, as well as their migrant workers from eastern europe. in france, an elderly woman was defenestrated by an intruder who got triggered by her jewishness. despite making it glaringly obvious that he was proud to have killed a jew, he he was deemed unfit for trial because he was too high on weed. weed. it took forever for france to openly admit that it was a hate crime. he acted the same way nikolas cruz did - saying he was possessed by a demon - and actually got away with it. in contrast, nikolas cruz is under trial. the investigators knew he was trying to worm his way into making people believe he was insane.

what i'm trying to get at is that yes, america has a gun problem. but i'm tired of europe not being held accountable for their intense rise in anti-jewish hate crimes. even macron was heavily criticized for saying that her killer needs to stand trial.

you don't need a gun to kill.

@Faktor114 i implore you to do some digging about countries outside of america. even if guns aren't available, people will still use what they can to carry out violence. humans by nature are flawed, and that's usually okay and fixable (based on the fact that we _are_ humans and thus are usually able to ignore animalistic instincts or at least know what the consequences of their actions are), but an unfortunate amount of us slip between the cracks. for example, the UK has a _huge_ problem with how they treat their jewish and romani citizens, as well as their migrant workers from eastern europe. in france, an elderly woman was defenestrated by an intruder who got triggered by her jewishness. despite making it glaringly obvious that he was proud to have killed a jew, he he was deemed unfit for trial because he was too high on weed. _weed._ it took forever for france to openly admit that it was a hate crime. he acted the same way nikolas cruz did - saying he was possessed by a demon - and actually got away with it. in contrast, nikolas cruz is under trial. the investigators knew he was trying to worm his way into making people believe he was insane.

what i'm trying to get at is that yes, america has a gun problem. but i'm tired of europe not being held accountable for their intense rise in anti-jewish hate crimes. even macron was heavily criticized for saying that her killer needs to stand trial.

you don't need a gun to kill.

You're right though, because I was initially thinking about it, and the guy fires one shot after he's already been attacked you know, so I was kind of mulling it over there... Clearly the guy is a pos just for doing this to a woman with three kids in the car, that parts are given but the rest... You're absolutely right.

Your step-dad knows how to handle a weapon. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

Your stepdad shouldn't have been carrying a gun I the first place

I’m glad he had restraint and was able to control himself.

@Chris Fernandez He said "that's why you shoot bank robbers. Texas style."  Maybe you dont know a lot about legalities, but in texas you can shoot to kill someone that is actively stealing your property.

Was he sucker punched like the guy in the video though? I've been sucker punch in the past and the surprise has a huge effect on how you perceive a situation. It goes from 0 to 9000 in a fraction of second and you don't understand what happened to you, every movement that happens afterward can be seen as an act of aggression. If I had been in this guy shoes I might have shot the dude as well. He was on the ground, shocked and hurt.

@INEEDMONEY yeah legend has it they’re called ghost guns

@John Smith have you ever seen someone using a gun that does not exist ?

Love how americans are convincing themselves that weapons are not the problem, only the human using it.... Lol go on with ur desillusions !

@Cole Games , using your analogy of a Herpetologist (A trained veterinarian who specializes in reptiles) being one of the few qualified individuals to own a python, at what point do we draw the line in training and experience being nessasary in owning a firearm? While I agree, prior to purchasing a firearm one should have basic training and familiarization with the weapon platform one seeks to acquire, yet how much training is needed?

Additionally, criminals do not care about firearms legislation. If they want one, they will find one, and not submit to a 10 day waiting period. These days, 3D printers are getting good at making ghost guns as well. Then there are the other ghost guns, metal fully functioning 1911, Glock and Smith & Wesson replicas, chambered in. 40 Cal S&W and 45 ACP, made in the Philippines without Manufacturer / ATF&E Serial Numbers. Training, background checks and waiting  periods only seek to hinder the responsible firearms owner, it is not a crime preventative, in my opinion.

@Tyrawr 😂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂

@Tyrawr 😂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂

@Tommy Mc Yes, because knifves are much more deadly than guns. Therefore, everyone should have guns so that they don't use the more lethal weapon!

@Faktor114 nope it doesn't, look at all us guys ib UK.. we all get by with no guns, i rest my case...

If someone confronts me, you better believe I am gonna have my space or else, if my space gets invaded, they’re going 6 feet under. Let you taxpayers pay for my free food, housing, and medical care. 😂

Always wait till the other guy kills you, then shoot, as to erase any doubt.

@Faktor114 Yes because the cities with strict gun laws have such low gun crime! What a joke 😂 do a little research.

@Faktor114 There's no differences between that story and the one on the video. Just another outcome.<br>There's (must be) a reason why ppl doesn't shoot each over when in a standoff in the movies (which I don't understand)

@Faktor114 There's no differences between that story and the one on the video. Just another outcome.
There's (must be) a reason why ppl doesn't shoot each over when in a standoff in the movies (which I don't understand)

It all depends on the situation which sucks the person assaulting you deserves what they get in my opinion which is why it's called assault the moment someone lays hands on you

@Mark 1 Mod 0 Facts!! I wasn’t really into guns until I married my wife who comes from a family where she grew up shooting and learning how to properly use firearms.. Her father always told me no matter what, you never pull your firearm unless you are intending to kill.. And that should only be the case if you feel if your life, your families life, or an innocent persons life is in danger..

@Magnus Carlsson The comments are referring to the post about the stepdad pulling out a gun.

@Faktor114 "Yet, if the other guy had a gun one (1) if them would likely be dead"<br>...didn't you notice that one of them died  anyway... without having a gun?

@Faktor114 "Yet, if the other guy had a gun one (1) if them would likely be dead"
...didn't you notice that one of them died  anyway... without having a gun?

@Kyle Castloo bank robbers are the least likely to hurt you intentionally that makes literally no sense plus why shoot someone who’s robbing a business of a product already %100 insured

@Magnus Carlsson Its difficult because there are people who think everyone having guns is a good thing...I forget that sometimes.

@Faktor114 I got you.
My point was that your example was no good.
Also...next time I refer to "you", don't take it personally

@Magnus Carlsson Nope, I dont have a gun.  My point is that people get shot because people get upset in the moment and just shoot.  The idea that everyone has guns to protect themselves doesn't really work.

Yet, if the other guy had a gun one of them would likely be dead.

Your stepdad is a reasonable and level headed man, something rarely seen these days.


He violated everything that you learn in getting a CC license... especially the first rule, don't go looking for trouble. He was sentenced to 20 years BTW.

@Jax Anon if you think not wanting to throw away your whole life because of a stupid ego is spineless, you're delusional

@Poker Joker sounds great on paper when u put it that way. But if you ain’t s tough guy (which he isn’t ) jail will be a fucking nightmare

@Jax Anon Ah yes, the circle of death. At some point someone has to step up and be the bigger person

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 I am neither white or black. There are other races that live in this country that are not white or black. Or even Hispanic for that matter.

I am a dark skinned man from Southeast Asia. I have only voted for liberals all my life. But I call a spade a spade on both sides.

Most people are just like you, very partisan not just politically but culturally, religiously, even with your sports affiliations. Everyone is a fanboy of someone that they defend no matter what they say and do whether it be a musical artist, athlete, politician, cops, celebrity, etc.

I am not like that. I call a spade a spade. Chauvin deserved to go to prison.

@Milky Way what if that was your kid and he got in a disagreement with someone and your kid through the first punch because the other kid was talking back to him any other kid was smaller and he took out a gun and shot him. How does that scenario play out now?

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Smh. You are not making any sense. Assaulting someone is not "disagreeing". It is a crime that warrants self defense by any means necessary.

The black guy was younger, bigger, stronger and clearly violent. He pushed him hard and then walked over him waiting for him to get up. He deserved it.

@Trevor Lahey I'll back you up on that. Put my signature down for me.

@Trevor Lahey I'll back you up on that. Put my signature down for me.

@Milky Way so you're saying if someone doesn't agree with you that it's ok to murder someone on the spot for assaulting you, then you're saying that they "don't believe assault is wrong". That's pretty interesting. Do you find a lot of people agree with you about this?

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Yes he is dead bc he broke the law and assaulted another man that was just using his WORDS. THATS ALL. You still don't seem to understand why assaulting someone is wrong.

@Milky Way okay you can't charge the black guy with assault because he is dead. Do you need me to explain anything else to you or are you done?

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Om. You said you can only use force equal to the force being used against you.

That goes both ways. The white was just using his words at first. Then the black guy escalated it by using physical violence.

So the black guy is wrong on every level here plus they parked in a handicap spot. Not good people. She probably got a settlement by suing someone too. I don't feel bad for them. They should have known a lot better.

Are you people serious!? Listen, I am liberal for the most part. I do think everyone has the right to own a gun tho. But wrong is wrong.

The black guy assaulted the guy first! The white guy was just talking and didn't do anything illegal.

You can say he was annoying or whatever but he didn't assault anyone. It's a free country. First ammendment. Say what you want but when you put your hands on someone and push them that hard to the ground, I no longer view you as the victim but the aggressor.

The black guy only retreated after he saw the gun pointed at him. It didn't matter if he was walking back at that point. The crime of assault was already committed. I am tired of my fellow liberals defending the suspects and victims of police violence no matter what they do. Resisting arrest, punching and cop, driving away, etc.

No one deserves to die for it but obey the law! Don't assault someone. Period. I dont feel bad for the guy who got killed in this situation at all. His girlfriend said, do I need to go get my man. They were the aggressors. The white guy was just annoying and nosy. But they were parked in the handicap parking spot which is also ILLEGAL!!!

@Circassian Assasin well that was my measured position on gub control. I guess it's true what they say, you can't please all the people all the time, especially on the topic of gub control.

Thank you so very much! I wanted to finish reading the comments before I started another JCS case and Googled the verdict 😁<br>Take care everyone, *please*! ❤

Thank you so very much! I wanted to finish reading the comments before I started another JCS case and Googled the verdict 😁
Take care everyone, *please*! ❤

He merely asked her not to park in a bay for disabled ppl...the big guy that knocked him to the floor had no need to get involved and be violent.

i dont think he went looking for trouble, he told the woman off for parking in a disabled space the man made it trouble by pushing him

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Nobody needs to have a gub

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Nobody needs to have a gub

@Jax Anon and then Drejka can kill someone justifiably lol

@Jax Anon and then Drejka can kill someone justifiably lol

And he will never be able to own a gun again.

And he will never be able to own a gun again.

Damn, I just got to the part when he got let out after the interview, that’s good to hear

Damn, I just got to the part when he got let out after the interview, that’s good to hear

@Poker Joker bro got his ass beat too but i bet he’s in special living now

@Poker Joker bro got his ass beat too but i bet he’s in special living now

@Josh Ström see I like guns. Guns are fun. Guns are badass. Guns are nice to have around and I wish we could live in a world where we could have guns around. But at the end of the day, what you have there is a tool that serves a purpose, and is also just a fun little thing to play with, you know, like anything else. Like say a Dremel tool for example. But let's say dremel tools were killing you know, however many people a year, and at some point the people around you decide that the benefit of you having a fun little toy to play with isn't worth the cost of that many human lives. Then in my book either you let that one go, or you decide blow them all off and live your life as a complete asshole. I guess do whatever you're comfortable with of the two.

@Josh Ström is that the answer? You see because when you create a situation where everyone has a firearm that's a dangerous situation. You see I know that because I was in the military and I was in situations where every single person had a firearm and there were safety protocols and things that we did to avoid accidents that don't happen in civilian life so I want to know why you think that is a good idea without having something like that in place, or I want you to explain to me why the military didn't need to have those protocols in place.

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 didn't say that no shit there isn't perfect solutions but wouldn't it be logical for law abiding citizens to have legally obtained guns to protect against those who have illegally obtained guns just seems like the best reality possible on the topic of guns and gun control

@Josh Ström probably not all of them, or even a large percentage of them you know, but possibly could stop a school shooting or two, maybe, if you think that's something worth doing?

@Poker Joker faaaaaaaaacts. But hopefully he meets some friendly bloods in prison :D

@Poker Joker faaaaaaaaacts. But hopefully he meets some friendly bloods in prison :D

He wasn’t looking for trouble though. He was being a good citizen, since the person was illegally parked. Then he gets assaulted by the deceased. Definitely not the instigator

@Jax Anon Seriously? You want a kid to grow wanting revenge and then go to jail themselves? I hope you're not raising any kids of your own..

He is only doing 10yrs...2 for 1 with good behavior

He is only doing 10yrs...2 for 1 with good behavior

Death sentence costs the taxpayer more than a lifetime in jail. Plus they have to suffer for years before they die

Stand your ground law means you can fight with the same force as your attacker. He obviously gave him time to get up and fight but Drewhatever was too scared and used excessive force that was unnecessary. And who goes around looking for handicap stickers. I'm from the same neighborhood and heard the shots.

Who killed intentioaly should be killed  20 year not justice

Who killed intentioaly should be killed  20 year not justice

@Bobby Dee and that would make carrying a gun without a license a coward.

@Bobby Dee and that would make carrying a gun without a license a coward.

The guy was attacked and he defended himself. He should not have killed him or shot his gun.. but thats what a weapon is for and that’s why people carry them around .. the guy attacked him first also.. I’m not saying he’s in the right , but I mean it’s one of those things were as sad as it is the guy was defending himself from 2 people one who had just assaulted him.. it’s either he sit there and not do anything or the latter

@Jax Anon <br>Yes, it's more like causing trouble.

@Jax Anon
Yes, it's more like causing trouble.

@Poker Joker yeah don't try and act like prison is a walk in the park. I assure you it's not fun.

@Poker Joker yeah don't try and act like prison is a walk in the park. I assure you it's not fun.

@js you're preaching to the quire. Is that at me?

@js you're preaching to the quire. Is that at me?

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 20 years of imprisonment are not even close to 20 years of ordinary, free life. You feel like every day takes forever. Hour is like day, day is like a week, week is like a month and month is like a year but the single year is like eternity.

@Pietje Puk No. Parking in a disabled spot is not “looking for trouble”

@Pietje Puk No. Parking in a disabled spot is not “looking for trouble”

@Jax Anon And parking illegally on a disabled spot is not?

@Jax Anon And parking illegally on a disabled spot is not?

Is pointing out you're illegally parked on a disabled spot "looking for trouble"?

Is pointing out you're illegally parked on a disabled spot "looking for trouble"?

@Jax Anon I get the equibility of it, but it doesn't concern me. Everyone is born into their own shoes the way I see it, so I don't look down on anybody. I care more about what's practical. It's to contain a threat and provide a deterrent. That's the function of the penal system. Like I said before the guy is not even a threat without a gun. He was attacked first and that is not nothing, even though the vast majority of the blame is clearly overwhelmingly on him.

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69  I don’t think you understand how important a human life is. 20 years is much shorter than eternity.

@Jax Anon I don't think you understand how long 20 years is, go ahead and reply to this comment in 20 years okay then we'll talk about it some more in 20 years.

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Look at you. Reevaluate your life bud. Some risks are meant to be taken.

@Chad 1337P-De$tr0yer69 Look at you. Reevaluate your life bud. Some risks are meant to be taken.

@Poker Joker lol funny, if it’s so great why not get yourself in there bud?…yeah didn’t think so

@Poker Joker lol funny, if it’s so great why not get yourself in there bud?…yeah didn’t think so

20 years for leaving a family broken forever, hopefully one of those kids or a family friend goes for a little vigilante justice.

is there any way to find him and send him mail? id love to send him a couple words ya know? nothing bulgur of course i mean he is already being punished but idk maybe a friendly reminder that now there's children out there with no father who probably think about seeing their dad fall over in front of them.

Just don't let him have a gun ever again when he gets out.

Just don't let him have a gun ever again when he gets out.

20 years of free food, housing, and medical care thanks to the American Taxpayer. Gotta love America. 😂

@Mike Tayon really??? That's wonderful to hear hahaha

@Mike Tayon really??? That's wonderful to hear hahaha

" He was sentenced to 20 years BTW. " AND someone kicked his as in prison! :)

" *_He was sentenced to 20 years BTW._* " AND someone kicked his as in prison! :)


This was the first video of yours that made me cry. A pointless loss of life because of some idiot. This poor poor family

@dabomboo7o If you wouldn’t confront a stranger bawling out the mother of your children over a parking dispute, then you need your man card revoked.

@dabomboo7o I wouldn't have done anything to provoke an attack in the first place lol sure it sucks for people to park in a handicapped spot when they don't have a placard but I'm not a cop. It's not my job to bug people about minor infractions 🤷♂

Way to defend a thug.. how would you like getting assaulted by one?


At minute 20:33 he forgot his arm was injured. He moves it in circular motion pretty well. Doesn't seem to bother him then


To think that if he reacted reasonably it would be the other man being arrested for assault.


Yeah he shouldn’t have shot... after he pulled the gun the father backed down and walked back and he still got shot


seems to me like this nut had firearm fascination. Felt it made him a big man who can go around poking people waiting to use his firearm! Almost as if he purchased the weapon with intentions to kill someone?


Second degree murder, minimum. Prosecution went for the lesser crime to guarantee conviction. Too bad.


how come no more videos are being uploaded? i love these videos


Had the victim attacked after he shoved the perp down, this wouldn't be on YouTube as it would be justifiable homicide. His life was not in imminent danger. The victim wasn't armed as well.


He clearly didn't realize there were surveillance turn the whole altercation


That defense was fucking trash lmao thank god
"He wasn't happy when heard the guy died" he wasn't sad either
"Hurr durr the cameras are old don't represent what happened" you can see him get pushed over, the victim back away at the site of the gun, and the shot fire
"Uhh the cashier didn't know he had a gun" who cares and how's that relevant?
"Cashier described him as calm" just as i'm sure he was when he pulled the trigger and just as he was when he described the event to investigators, with a version full of cap
"There was clear reasonable doubt" my guy you can SEE the victim clearly back away
"One man is already gone, do you want to take another away" lmaoooooo really?


How I wish this prosecutor & jury were on the Casey Anthony case.


Everybody knows at least one guy like this: self appointed keeper of justice. The truly believe they are obligated to tell people they are not doing things the right way. Now it bugs me too when able-bodied people park in disabled parking spots. But unless I see a  person with a visible disabled sticker (or 'placard' as junior G-man likes to call them) unable to park because an able-bodied person has occupied the spot, I'm not going to say anything. Even then, I'd like to think I'd be polite about it. After all, you never know a person's situation. There are plenty of reasons why they may not  have a sticker displayed, or simply why they might need to park there. What I would not do is shoot a guy for defending his wife from some self righteous a$$hole.


This guy exaggerates his hurt arm, puts it up on the table then forgets it's hurt and hides it again, makes a fake sling using his t-shirt, then proceeds to use his arm during the interrogation... Like I can't even right now...


This man should of never fired his gun.. I understand being scared that a man bigger than you pushed you over but he had all control when he took out his fire arm and he definitely didn't have to shoot.


Detective - "I'm just going to ask you a few questions. Here's your shovel."


Hope you do something with the Johnny Depp Amber Heard court trial


Wow who reckons his lawyer actually believes the bs he is spouting the guy got pushed and killed a guy


You can avoid so much drama and bullshit by just simply minding your own business


It's sad knowing that if this guy was a police officer that got shoved  to the ground there's no way he would have been convicted for murdering an unarmed person.


Lock up and throw away key he took the time to shoot for the lungs he killshot him on purpose when he was backed off and not a treat it wasn't split seconds he had a full 2 seconds and he choose to murder like he was justified to


Love these vids and content. It sucks YT did you guys dirty. Glad you're coming back just please take it easy with the adds! Every 5 mins of this video there were adds. Super annoying

Literally only 7 mins later and just had another freaking 2 adds! WTF!?


"Four prior road incidents where he threatened drivers with a gun." Why tf was this dude even allowed to have a firearm?

@Why We Love Film If he were black he would still have his guns and not be in prison. The first two people didn’t press charges. The third incident there was no gun. And the fourth was never reported.
This white guy was definitely guilty of manslaughter.
BUT THERE IS NO RACISM INVOLVED IN THIS CASE. Definitely not the outcome right?

@G you guys are not only ones who have lots of guns. In Europe there are pretty heavily armed counters yet we don't have problems like that. In whole history there are less school shootings in Europe then in US in a year, even if we count Russia. There is something wrong with your country that's it. That's great that you can own gun if its make you safe, but if all you need to kill someone and have no consequences is to say that you felt threatened... That's absurd, no wonder that you don't feel safe.

@Dave if he was black he wouldn’t have the gun anymore. He probably still be in jail. Can’t refute the facts…

@Allan La Fontaine exactly.  let this be a lesson.  if one of those people hadn't taken the "no harm no foul" mentality and actually pressed charges,  there's a good chance this would have never happened.

@genki2genki  you hit the nail on the head with your comment 👍

@Allan La Fontaine yeah and i'd bet they didn't press charges out of fear of retaliation, had a situation like that before. In the process of pressing charges the accused has access to your home address and if that person will pull a gun in traffic who knows what could happen.

Because he was never charged with or convicted of anything. In the United States, you have to go through due process to have your rights taken away.

@Reluctant Grower Haha playing the victim. Do something with your life if you haven’t already.

@711honved guns weren't made for anything else homie

@Greg Robinette
It does sound like the prosecutor & jury got it wrong with George Zimmerman, he should have been convicted for something, because he did so many things wrong leading up to that and in the end, he shot a guy who did have business there and wasn't carrying anything more nefarious in his pocket than Skittles.
 Somebody like Zimmerman makes the other gun owners look bad.

The way this is narrated, "Four prior road incidents where he threatened drivers with a gun, two were male, two were (emphasis in voice) FEMALE..." - is it worse to threaten females than males?

@Lara Coimbra what happened to your chin?

@LostStarzOfTheSky as I'm from Tampa, I do think we need less relaxed laws, I want the freedom of protection, something thats a human right (the constitution made it not for that reason tho), but yeah after Drejka I think gun law needs to have psychiatry tests before issuing a gun.

Because  MUH MY SECOND AMENDMENT. That's 'murica for ya

Even dogs and pigs are allowed to have a gun in america.

Some people believe the right to carry arms also gives the right to kill. It's a mad mad country!

First 2 victims didn’t press chargers, 3rd incident didn’t involve a gun but he was charged with aggressive driving, 4th incident happened at the same convince store with a truck driver parked in the handicap spot, he even rang the truck company saying he was going to blow his head off but no one reported it to police until after they saw the death of Markeis


You say the “ so called 21 foot rule” like there’s no truth in this  when in fact it’s well documented

He never said it didn't have truth, its literally just a phrase to begin his explanation of it for people who don't know about it. He even described under what conditions you would be able to justify your actions based on said rule.


Ah! I’m glad his shoulder miraculously healed after he realized he had to make up some bullshit to save his own ass.


His pet peeve, people parking in handicap spots, my pet peeve, him rubbing his thumb and index finger together.


When man said "Neutralize," the cop sat up straight


If your defense attorney is arguing that the video being SD and not HD means you can't trust its footage, your case probably is not very strong.

Haha, true, even criticises the poor colour quality. Yeah youre going to jail bud.

is it just me or does the defence attorney sound like Donald Trump (the way he stresses his words)

@John Doe wasn't this guy represented by those NRA carry guard lawyers? <br>Basically lawyers paid to defend people that shoot people in 'apparent' self defense.

@John Doe wasn't this guy represented by those NRA carry guard lawyers?
Basically lawyers paid to defend people that shoot people in 'apparent' self defense.

@Kaas Perzik Agreed, but what people need to understand in this particular case is that the attorney is simply trying to create doubt, any doubt, especially when the client wants to take it to trial but there's not much to use for the defense.  If he can cast doubt in just one juror's mind, that's all he needs to win the case.  A defense attorney will advise a client with a bad case to settle or take a plea deal, but when the client refuses, they gotta do their job.  Some clients just don't know what's good for them when they've already fucked everything up.

could be a valid excuse if there are a lot of artifacts present in the footage. could show something that clearly isn't happening on screen. definitely not the case for this footage though, but it could be valid for others.

Or when you're arguing his reaction in the interview when he found out the guy he shot is dead.  He didn't celebrate because he's not stupid.  He's in front of two cops.  He celebrates, that's an admission of guilt.

if pixels have anything to do with not being able to see certain things in the footage, then it is an argument. Can't be your main one, but it can be used.

They were trying to create any doubt they could in the jurors' minds.  They knew they didn't have much of a case when they started.

@Joseph Stauter Hell, the display on a TI-88 calculator could show that much.

I'm assuming his attorney is a court-appointed public defender (just started watching), but I hope he's not, honestly. Anybody having to deal with this guy and represent him in court deserves better pay than public defenders. yes I know it's awful that somebody even has to try to defend people like this, but it's the law and the foundation of our court system. The attorneys know there's no chance of winning, but somebody has to take the case. Usually an attorney in need of work/public defender.

Specifically in a case like this where one of the main arguments from Mr. Shooty is that the guy was walking towards him. Even SD video can show a footstep clear enough.


Detective: "What kind of twitch was it?"<br>Bill Burr fans: "Quick twitch!"

Detective: "What kind of twitch was it?"
Bill Burr fans: "Quick twitch!"


If he hadn’t had the gun he may or may not have approached the lady about being in the handicap spot but for sure that man would not have gotten shot and killed. It is mr drejkas fault for pulling the trigger, but who gave him the trigger to pull? Also yeah he was probably the type of guy that went to target practice every day. That close to the target he could have shot him anywhere to “neutralize the threat” , but he hit the guy in a spot that would kill him. And if I just found out somebody I injures accidentally had died because of me I would have been in tears. Michael didn’t even seem to care.


This coward only felt ballsy with his gun. He would rather kill someone than get beat up.


That lady during the defense is me during this whole interrogation


That first detective wasn't lying about the other detectives being less handsome. Woof.


I'm sorry but who uses the word "expired" to describe someone's passing? It's a human being not a carton of milk. 🙄🙄