This scares me way more than crazy serial killers: guys who do stupid things with their weapons and think they've got the law behind them.

This scares me way more than crazy serial killers: guys who do stupid things with their weapons and think they've got the law behind them.

he was right to pull it he got blindsided but he shoulda kept his finger off the trigger long enough to realize the dude was turning away not stepping toward him

he was right to pull it he got blindsided but he shoulda kept his finger off the trigger long enough to realize the dude was turning away not stepping toward him

@tiffany heart He wasn't saying any of that at all. I wouldn't bring race into it for no reason. He's saying that it's wrong to come out of nowhere and push someone like the victim did. Yeah; the victim didn't deserve to die for it- but the victim definitely escalated things by choosing to push him rather than telling him to leave or just move his car(because they WERE parked in the wrong spot).

Micheal had been in several altercations before. Not just against people of colour. He was waiting for an excuse to use his weapon; and he thought the push justified it. Doesn't make it right, but the victim was acting inappropriately too.

You can clearly see in the footage that  came up cockily(hands on hips), pushed him, and then seemed to go in for more; only backing up when the gun came out.

You can also CLEARLY see the bystander at the door(who witnessed the push) going in to stop the victim before the Assailant pulled the gun.

If not for Michael shooting his gun; the one that would've gotten arrested would've been the victim; Markeis.

@Jack Walters No, I have no stats. But I also have no need to defend my opinions to a stranger. ✌🏻🙂

@Jack Walters No, I have no stats. But I also have no need to defend my opinions to a stranger. ✌🏻🙂

@Cole Marshall Do you have any stats for that? With how many people get murdered by serial killers versus to how many people are killed by people like that?

And as you said, a physical attack initiated it. He didn't just say the wrong thing to the wrong person. Are there people who will kill you just because you said the wrong thing? Sure, but again, they're rare just like serial killers.

And serial killers are rare but one serial killer could kill a bunch of people since he's trying not to get caught, whereas an idiot like that will probably get caught and put behind bars after his first and only murder since he will do it in front of everyone at the heat of the moment without having pre-planned the hell out of it first.

@Mikoto Suoh Remind me, if Trump's America was so bad for black people, why did police shootings against unarmed black men go down every single year he was in office?  Why is black on white crime up?

@Will Maud No, if you've been in a heated conversation before you'd know they walked up and pushed each other. That's fine tho I don't believe you have that much outside experience.

@Will Maud No, if you've been in a heated conversation before you'd know they walked up and pushed each other. That's fine tho I don't believe you have that much outside experience.

@Kozak isgod "people that aren't fucking frail push a lot". Act like an animal, get treated like one.

@Kozak isgod "people that aren't fucking frail push a lot". Act like an animal, get treated like one.

There was a case in my country where a young man used a "boga", it's like a gun but it only make noise and usually used during New Year, and a cop and his daughter walk up to them. They argued and the cop decided that he will take the young man to prison. The young man's mom which is very old then cling to his son and started to defend her child by trying to reason with the cop. The cop's daughter brags to the woman that her dad is a policeman as if to tell that her dad has the right to take the young man so the woman should just let go. Obviously, the woman just held her son and said she doesn't care about the cop's status. The cop cursed at the woman and screamed "Do you want me to finish you off right now?!" with that he took a shot to the woman then to the son. The two dropped and the people around them that was unable to help cried and begged the cop to stop. What's horrid is that the cop and his daughter doesn't seem affected by what just happened, they walked away as if nothing happened. It was all caught on camera and a lot of people just witnessed a murder in cold blood. I wouldn't even want to think about if he killed people before catching him in action, he has no remorse that it may be possible. "Boga" may have been banned because it had a lot of self-injury cases but that issue was completely thrown as the cop clearly just wanted to show off his position and that he has a gun.

@tiffany heart yes obviously. The guy isn’t gonna shoot you if you did nothing.If you aren’t a savage and keep your hands to yourself you don’t got much to worry about😂. But again I don’t condone what he did, but the other dude was in the wrong too

@Marchkofeeling  so everyone who initiates an assault is "up to being killed"? I feel sorry for your children and relatives. Smh

@Marchkofeeling  so everyone who initiates an assault is "up to being killed"? I feel sorry for your children and relatives. Smh

@Marchkofeeling  That "old guy" was yelling at his wife. So no, no one would expect him to ignore that and "just drive." Maybe if someone is yelling at your loved ones you just walk away but that's not what others would do as well. Calling him stupid because he acted on someone he thought was a threat to his wife is really weird tbh

100%, you understand the serial killer's purpose, and understand who they are immediately. It's the one's that are outlandish and irrational with a deadly weapon that are worse, it could be LITERALLY anyone

Yeah definitely not as scary as serial killers

Yeah definitely not as scary as serial killers

@Son Scarra also don't forget your mass immigration policy that brings no go zones

@Son Scarra also don't forget your mass immigration policy that brings no go zones

@Son Scarra don't forget your acid attacks

@Son Scarra don't forget your acid attacks

well obviously it does since 99.8 % of victims die to such cases and not serial killers lol.<br>But just imagine having gun laws, no one dies to stupid people :O Glad to not have this problem here were worst case scenario is a pocket knife.

well obviously it does since 99.8 % of victims die to such cases and not serial killers lol.
But just imagine having gun laws, no one dies to stupid people :O Glad to not have this problem here were worst case scenario is a pocket knife.

@Baby Snake Have you made my sandwich, yet?

@Baby Snake Have you made my sandwich, yet?

@Reborn 777  @Reborn 777
Interracial Violent Crime 2018:

B on W: 547,948
W on B: 59,778

Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey

And just this year alone in Chicago B on B shot and wounded is so far at 1,371 with 281 shot and murdered lol
Cope.

@Tavat actually i've said "Globalism is the new fascism" disguise the thought and distort the words without being able to capture the nuances and at the same time to call me an idiot, thank you for this nice piece of laughter.

@Cylox5 gee I wonder who does that. It must just be gun enthusiast white men and no other demographic whatsoever.

@Cylox5 gee I wonder who does that. It must just be gun enthusiast white men and no other demographic whatsoever.

@First Time Long Time Absolutely no evidence that the perpetrator would've been killed. That's nonsense.

@First Time Long Time Absolutely no evidence that the perpetrator would've been killed. That's nonsense.

@GarxGar very very irrational thinking. Please dont carry a weapon for the safety of everyone.

@GarxGar very very irrational thinking. Please dont carry a weapon for the safety of everyone.

@maximumviper I gave $1,000 to Kyle Rittenhouse defense :)

@maximumviper I gave $1,000 to Kyle Rittenhouse defense :)

Yes illegally park somewhere then your boyfriend illegally attacks him. He shouldn't of shot but def should of pulled out gun or the black dude would of killed him

Yes illegally park somewhere then your boyfriend illegally attacks him. He shouldn't of shot but def should of pulled out gun or the black dude would of killed him

@GarxGar if the old dude had any sense he wouldn't place himself into this situation. did you miss the part of the video where he was accused of threatening other drivers with his gun? he was the instigator and he only did it because he was packing. i have no sympathy for him

@GarxGar Getting pushed over doesn't justify shooting and killing. That's insane. The 'old dude' was in his 30's.

@GarxGar Getting pushed over doesn't justify shooting and killing. That's insane. The 'old dude' was in his 30's.

@Marchkofeeling 48 years old to be accurate

@Marchkofeeling 48 years old to be accurate

@Tavat i'm not racist fact are fact and not telling the truth about some people just because they aren't white is the true racism and made by you what about farmer advantage if they are black? what about the mayor of New York not wanting to meet white journalists? all years long since b.lm bullshit etc etc etc your progressive and globalist way of thinking is the new fascism. and let me tell you by advance this post will be deleted soon cause it's telling the truth and i live in a free world if i want to speak i speak, period (5 posts deleted before)

@StacheOperator The shooter is in prison. I’d say he got what he deserved.

@StacheOperator The shooter is in prison. I’d say he got what he deserved.

@StacheOperator Glad someone is not blind and see the same as me 👍

@StacheOperator Glad someone is not blind and see the same as me 👍

@Marchkofeeling …  correction…. The shooter is not an old man!!

@Marchkofeeling …  correction…. The shooter is not an old man!!

@jarry Dee …shooter should have gone  about minding his own business that day.   In the eyes of the law and his peers,  he got 20 years for pulling and a gun  for being “pushed”.  In his own words he had never had a  physical fight but  willingly use a gun and take the life of another  in place of his fists - gutless!

@jarry Dee Oh, you people are so blatantly biased. If you came out of a store & saw that some random man had approached your car with your children in it and was arguing with your wife... how would you react?

That's not about being a "tough guy." Just like you can claim that Drejka had to respond to someone being a "tough guy", so did McGlockton. You don't get to play cop-wannabe and expect people to treat you the same as someone with actual authority.

And no, you can't physically attack someone and get away with it. That's what the legal system is for. If you were assaulted, then get the person arrested. A gun is not a tool of retribution or justice. That's the problem with these types. A gun is a last resort. That man knew that his life wasn't in danger, as he clearly showed in his interrogation.

@Marchkofeeling Drejka was 47. He was not an old man and he doesn't even look like one. He has perfectly brown hair & no saggy skin or anything. The only thing that might look old about him is his posture. But he was not old & other than being a bit hunched, he doesn't look old either.

He also wasn't yelling at the person who pushed him, he was yelling at the wife of that guy. Imagine walking out of the store & seeing that some random man has approached your car where your kids are sitting and is arguing with your wife? Maybe he thought that his wife was in danger & made a snap choice?

@GarxGar Firstly, Drejka was 47 at this time. Far from an "old dude." Plus he doesn't even have grey hair or anything else in the video that would make him look old at a glance. So I don't know where you got the impression that he was just some frail old guy, shouting at the clouds and could not have been perceived as a threat to anyone.

Just as you justify Drejka shooting based on feeling threatened by an "aggressive macho dickhead", consider that the man who was shot was in the store during the argument. He, just like the rest of the customers, didn't know that it was "just about parking." When he goes outside & sees that the male & female voice arguing is his wife and a man who has come near her car, where their children are sitting? By your own logic, he likely felt that he needed to defend his family. So he pushed the guy (clearly not a tackle, as shown on video). Apply your analysis consistently. What should the victim have done to defend his wife & kids against an overly-aggressive man who has just approached their car?

Edit: I just realized he even says his age in this video! He was actually 48 (1 year off from what wikipedia said). Not an "old man." People don't crumble into dust after age 30, you know. Also, Drejka had 4 previous cases of pulling guns on people in road incidents, 2 of which were women? And you call the guy he killed an "aggressive macho dickhead"? Either you are didn't watch the video, or you are so blinded by bias that you really shouldn't even be commenting.

@Blakes Vidgamagame Diaries Almost 50 is not young he could be the grandfather of a teenager..

@Blakes Vidgamagame Diaries Almost 50 is not young he could be the grandfather of a teenager..

@Marchkofeeling Old man? lol. He was 48.

@Marchkofeeling Old man? lol. He was 48.

@Xero India more so than New Zealand, a tiny, isolated, sparsely-populated island? Yes. I'd say so. Anyway, the reason I chose those countries and "skipped" others was simply to address your statement that US has a much higher crime rate than comparable first-world countries. By which, I'd assume you meant all comparable first-world counties. Which is patently untrue.

@Shannon Hanley And if we look at homicide rate, the States hits 4.96, while France is 1.2.

@Shannon Hanley And if we look at homicide rate, the States hits 4.96, while France is 1.2.

@Shannon Hanley Are Palestine and India really comparable countries to the US? You still skipped Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada, Japan, Germany etc.

@Shannon Hanley Are Palestine and India really comparable countries to the US? You still skipped Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada, Japan, Germany etc.

@Xero Exactly. Even if we're only going by the enthnocentric "first-world" data moniker, and if we're going for comparable in terms of population/city distribution, then Sweden, France, Ireland, Belgium, Palestine, UK, Italy, and India are all within three points of the US. I really don't believe most people would consider that "much higher."

@Shannon Hanley Here's another one from the same website. The crime index of the USA is 47.7. The crime index of comparable first-world countries are as follows; Canada: 40.64, Australia: 41.61, New Zealand: 42.19, UK: 44.54, France: 47.37, Germany: 35.14, South Korea: 27.33, Japan: 21.67.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country

@StacheOperator We got a certified badass over here. Your country still has a much higher crime rate than comparable first-world countries. I wonder why 🤔

@StacheOperator We got a certified badass over here. Your country still has a much higher crime rate than comparable first-world countries. I wonder why 🤔

@GarxGar I wasn't aware that old men were a good basis for issuing death penalties.

@GarxGar I wasn't aware that old men were a good basis for issuing death penalties.

@Alex Glick have you done any research? You are 10x more likely to be killed as a white man feom the opposite race. Good God just go to government domains and you'll get all the real info you need. Again, feelings do not equal facts.

@Sooraj The majority of crime is done in places where guns are almost impossible to get and bought illegally and done by a certain minority lol <br>Come. And. Take. Them.

@Sooraj The majority of crime is done in places where guns are almost impossible to get and bought illegally and done by a certain minority lol
Come. And. Take. Them.

tbh citizens should never have been allowed weapons. and now that people have weapons it is gonna be almost impossible to ban weapons

tbh citizens should never have been allowed weapons. and now that people have weapons it is gonna be almost impossible to ban weapons

I think it's more of a lesson that you shouldn't put your hands on people.

I think it's more of a lesson that you shouldn't put your hands on people.

@B they were bot handicapped lol they were parked illegally. Remember feelings do not equal facts

@B they were bot handicapped lol they were parked illegally. Remember feelings do not equal facts

@tiffany heart some people aren't meant for it. I do want to speak on the case though. The guy backed up once he saw the gun and me personally wouldn't have shot, just retreated to a defensive position to my vehicle and called the cops since the threat seemed to be over.

@StacheOperator thats you, and i totally understand, but i personally couldnt do that without living my life with guilt

@StacheOperator thats you, and i totally understand, but i personally couldnt do that without living my life with guilt

@tiffany heart I've taking a few talibans life's during my few tours. I sleep like a baby.
I also would sleep just fine if someone broke I to my house with my wife and kid and I terminated the threat.l which would definitely happen because I sleep with an AR pistol, specifically a MK18 mod 1 with a suppressor (yes its registered and legal with the ATF) by my bed, wifes keep her glock 43 and I never travel without my glock 23 chambered in .40 with a + 5 baseplate.
That's just my defensive guns. That's not even my safe lol.

@Elle Did you not see the attackers posture before he saw the gun. He was going after an old man on the ground so in terms of stand your ground he had every right to protect it.
As for harassing the couple. He just asked them to move from the handicapped parking spot as it is illegal and they didn't have the sticker.
If a man gets to mad you just simply asked his wife to move out if the handicap spot and attack an old man, I stick by what he said. He deserved it.

How can that, realistically scare you more than a serial killer?

How can that, realistically scare you more than a serial killer?

@GarxGar Old dude? Ok. Presenting the weapon was good enough. He decided to shoot. Rot in jail :)

@GarxGar Old dude? Ok. Presenting the weapon was good enough. He decided to shoot. Rot in jail :)

@SticksForChicks I'd say it is scarier only in the sense that the chances of you getting murdered by a serial killer are slim compared to the chances that some stupid vigilante with a gun and a chip on his shoulder will shoot you for running a stop sign.

Y’all have a screw loose if this scares you more than serial killers.

Y’all have a screw loose if this scares you more than serial killers.

@Kozak isgod  Not really. If someone pushed you from behind would you feel threatened. Yes you would, it would activate your fight or flight. Do I think he should've pulled his gun? Yes. Do I think he should've shot him? NO! But you're not a coward for feeling threatened or wanting to defend yourself.

Ik it was dumb and he shouldn't have pulled a gun on that man, but he was threatened. It turned from a argument, to being shoved to the ground. At that point i agree with him shooting the other guy.

Ik it was dumb and he shouldn't have pulled a gun on that man, but he was threatened. It turned from a argument, to being shoved to the ground. At that point i agree with him shooting the other guy.

@tiffany heart don't argue with them. These people have been radicalized by gun manufacturer and NRA for a very long time. They have normalized the idea of taking away lives over minor things. Like the narrator says: "appeal to extreme". Their world view of themselves is that dangerous minorities are everywhere and they must remain hyper-vigilant, as if they are now in a doomsday.

@Borfis Jort i didnt say that i meant that the whole situtation was over a parking spot. the whole world is a mess i just wish people would stop hurting eachother

@Borfis Jort i didnt say that i meant that the whole situtation was over a parking spot. the whole world is a mess i just wish people would stop hurting eachother

@Marchkofeeling no ur wrong. the shooter was the one to initiate three confrontation

@Marchkofeeling no ur wrong. the shooter was the one to initiate three confrontation

@Borfis Jort maybe the guy should mind his business and not harass women and children

@Borfis Jort maybe the guy should mind his business and not harass women and children

@Marchkofeeling wow so you wouldnt defend your wife and kids from some crazy guy at a gas station?

@Marchkofeeling wow so you wouldnt defend your wife and kids from some crazy guy at a gas station?

@StacheOperator Ah yes, he absolutely deserved the death penalty for that, thank god we had this hero on site to deliver justice so quickly

:|

@StacheOperator Ah yes, he *absolutely* deserved the death penalty for that, thank god we had this hero on site to deliver justice so quickly

:|

He got what he deserved. Maybe the next aggressor will think twice about assaulting a man twice his age over a parking space they were parked illegally in in the first place.

He got what he deserved. Maybe the next aggressor will think twice about assaulting a man twice his age over a parking space they were parked illegally in in the first place.

@Leland Bourdages Use your brain just for one time, if he didn't push him down from behind the shooter do not open fire at him self defense have nothing to do with that.

@Leland Bourdages Use your brain just for one time, if he didn't push him down from behind the shooter do not open fire at him self defense have nothing to do with that.

@Marchkofeeling so , how was it not 'self defense' for the guy to push him? Maybe they 'feared for their life", cuz HE started it. Right?

@Marchkofeeling so , how was it not 'self defense' for the guy to push him? Maybe they 'feared for their life", cuz HE started it. Right?

@GarxGar you dont get to murder someone -- EVEN IF THEY PUSH YOU!!🤯

@GarxGar you dont get to murder someone -- EVEN IF THEY PUSH YOU!!🤯

@Marchkofeeling you don't see a difference between pushing someone, and murdering someone?

@Marchkofeeling you don't see a difference between pushing someone, and murdering someone?

@GarxGar it’s actually called harassment, not complaining. 🤷♂ Good thing you weren’t on the jury, you’d probably have been disqualified for bias and psychopathy

@GarxGar it’s actually called harassment, not complaining. 🤷♂ Good thing you weren’t on the jury, you’d probably have been disqualified for bias and psychopathy

so you can put your hands on someone and get away with it? I guess dude didn't get away with it though , he is dead. Should have kept his hands to himself, tough guy is gone!

so you can put your hands on someone and get away with it? I guess dude didn't get away with it though , he is dead. Should have kept his hands to himself, tough guy is gone!

@Atom Teuoxtonion i’m just telling the truth

@Atom Teuoxtonion i’m just telling the truth

Because America's Law enforces such behaviour. And Donald made it even worse.<br>Gotta wait and see, if Joe can lead towards the first steps of a "solution" to prevent it.

Because America's Law enforces such behaviour. And Donald made it even worse.
Gotta wait and see, if Joe can lead towards the first steps of a "solution" to prevent it.

@Catsquidcat Overlord One punch is often enough to kill someone, especially from behind by surprise BUT to respond you i've said he (shooter) is an unstable and i've never said he (deadman) deserve to die BUT he initiated the assault so he's up to that.

@Marchkofeeling I would rather even go as far as risking a beating in a public area than waste however many years of life the person doing so lived, alongside of potentially destroying the lives of all those around them.  Why cause all that undo suffering, just because I can't take a punch?  Last I checked assault is not punishable with the death penalty, so why should someone in the situation have the right to issue it.  Especially in a situation like the one depicted where they are in a public location and the guy didn't seem to do anything further besides pushing him.

Well I guess don’t assault random because you don’t like what their saying lol you might get shot in the chest but feel free to take your chances, we might get more videos like this.

Well I guess don’t assault random because you don’t like what their saying lol you might get shot in the chest but feel free to take your chances, we might get more videos like this.

@tiffany heart Being physically assaulted is NOT trivial.

@tiffany heart Being physically assaulted is NOT trivial.

Why? Do you go attacking people from behind?

Why? Do you go attacking people from behind?

@Alex Glick biggest death tally is war, perpetuated by globalist bankers and neo cons.

@Alex Glick biggest death tally is war, perpetuated by globalist bankers and neo cons.

I was in town a week ago and during rush hour and heard what I was convinced was gunshots and quite a lot of them and I was in a lane I couldn't get put of and do carry a pistol with me often, and was sure I was going to have to engage and come to find, its some moron in a sports car of some sort with am exhaust that sounds like gun shots.

@Armando Pacheco-Soto that's why i call him "unstable" and that's why he get 20 years.

@Armando Pacheco-Soto that's why i call him "unstable" and that's why he get 20 years.

@Marchkofeeling you're supposed to meet force with the same amount of force if you want to prevent yourself from looking like the aggressor vs the defender. Shooting a man taking steps back not moving his hands is uncalled for as much as him shoving him to begin with. Both in the wrong

@Cylox5 what happens did he get a sentence

@Cylox5 what happens did he get a sentence

@Jim Havelaar I agree and I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that he is the initiator of the first assault and unlucky he ran into an unstable ... if he had jumped in his car and left he would be safe but he preferred to be the author of violence.

@Marchkofeeling pushing does not justify killing, it was unnecessary to push him but the guy with the gun was definitely way worse, I don't see how he could be justified

@Marchkofeeling pushing does not justify killing, it was unnecessary to push him but the guy with the gun was definitely way worse, I don't see how he could be justified

@Alex Glick I'm not sure what the connection is? I'm just saying that if he hadn't been aggressive towards this man twice his age and attacked him unjustifiably out of surprise he wouldn't have died like an idiot in front of his family.

@Marchkofeeling Historically very few white people have been killed for their race by black people, when compared to the reverse

@Marchkofeeling Historically very few white people have been killed for their race by black people, when compared to the reverse

@tiffany heart I'm from Belgium and it's 9AM but thank you and wish you the same for you sweet heart

@tiffany heart I'm from Belgium and it's 9AM but thank you and wish you the same for you sweet heart

@Marchkofeeling no i get it everyone has opinions! i just feel bad that someone died over something so trivial. have a good night!

@Marchkofeeling no i get it everyone has opinions! i just feel bad that someone died over something so trivial. have a good night!

@tiffany heart that's your right to think that as that's my right to think different cause we live in a free world, i don't want you to think same as me i'm not a fascist.

@tiffany heart that's your right to think that as that's my right to think different cause we live in a free world, i don't want you to think same as me i'm not a fascist.

@Marchkofeeling that scares you more than someone who killed a man in front of his child???

@Marchkofeeling that scares you more than someone who killed a man in front of his child???

What scare me more that's people who think it's normal to push an old man on the ground cause he's yelling at you..

What scare me more that's people who think it's normal to push an old man on the ground cause he's yelling at you..


I'm a legal concealed carrier, & this guy & guys with his attitude (people who feel like they need to confront others & enforce the law while not carrying a badge) should NOT be carrying a weapon. Of any kind. He was either taught poorly by his instructor, or misunderstood what personal defense is. My instructor put it this way: when you're carrying, you need to be Zen. Nothing bothers you. You avoid confrontation, you don't SEEK it out like this guy did. You don't get into little pissing contests or ego fights, you don't even flip some D-bag the bird after he cuts you off on the freeway. You need to apologize, you need to de-escalate. You need to do everything in your power to NOT draw your weapon. It's a huge responsibility. That being said, don't ever talk to cops without a lawyer.

He probably only got the permit and weapon to be able to “defend himself”

And yet, so many of these people DO carry.

And yet, so many of these people DO carry.

Thank you for being a responsible gun owner Philip...

@Sibs same with guns (if you even read that far into my comment)

In which case you have to improvise or defend yourself

100% agree. He pulled out his gun for something that could have been solved just by walking away. Guns and open carry are supposed to be used for emergency situations where all other options are being exhausted and the other person is within a hair's breath of doing something awful to you.

psh, you may have even insinuated controlling who has guns, so shove it and move on 😂 this is America, this is the American Dream he’s living. What a fantastic country.

@TazzyTheDerg but like you said they aren't always effective and most likely won't be intimidating enough to scare them, especially big people.

@TazzyTheDerg I would have to disagree I think every state and every place should test someone's mental state and of they're able to keep a level head in these situations. People have the right to defend and protect themselves in extreme circumstances yes we should have more control on who has a gun cause not everyone should own one. But yeah we should have the right to project ourselves

@Daniel Hristov or just don't have guns, simple fix.

@TazzyTheDerg there are many people in the police and military that are wholly unprepared to carry a gun. Also, a mace or a taser are perfectly fine option in many cases, but in one vs. many situation they can cost you your life by escalating the situation without serving as a sufficient deterrent. Guns are useful but the gun control and the requirement for qualities of the carrier should be much more strict than they are otherwise their benefit is vastly overweighed by the harm they will cause.

@Here lies Kitty Thomas either that, or nobody carries one and everyone uses mace instead

@TazzyTheDerg ALL firearm laws are infringements and everyone should carry a firearm.

Then maybe we should do something at a higher level to encourage people not to take up a handicap parking space when they don't need it - by the time the police were notified, they'd have been gone and then no one would even fucking care, except maybe a handicapped person who needed that spot in the meantime ...

My guess would be that carrying a gun in public means they CANT WAIT to pull it out or brandish it in some manner. I bet 90% of the conceal/carry guys are basically thinking "I wish a mfer WOULD".

I wish that every pro-gun person was more like you, a logically thinking human being

@Daniel Hristov or, or, and hear me out, mace/pepper spray, or a Tazer. Non-lethal deterrants that are just as effective at stopping a threat as a gun would be.

Yeah some people aren't affected by tazers or mace, but same goes for bullets. If someone's insane enough, they'll take shots and keep attacking. At which point you need to improvize. Guns are just unnecessary, and having mace or a tazer instead would save many lives.

Guns are stupid, and that's just a fact. Only people who should be armed at all are law enforcement and the military.

@Xanthia Fantom That person doesn't have a fragile ego! He thought and probably still thinks  that he stands way above anyone that isn't white and can kill them just like that.

@Simple Human, Complex Ambitions. That sheriff actually was going to let him get away with it!!

@Jacob Thompson wtf really? But I wonder what is the correct answer tho

"He was either taught poorly by his instructor,"

*No* instructor would ever think that this guy's actions were justified. Normally, CCW instructors are so paranoid for getting sued that they will basically tell you never to shoot someone in self-defense. I shit you not, in my first CCW class a female asked if it was OK to shoot a man about to rape her. He told her that she would have to wait until he was actually in the act of penetrating her before she could shoot.

"He was either taught poorly by his instructor,"

**No** instructor would ever think that this guy's actions were justified. Normally, CCW instructors are so paranoid for getting sued that they will basically tell you never to shoot someone in self-defense. I shit you not, in my first CCW class a female asked if it was OK to shoot a man about to rape her. He told her that she would have to wait until he was actually in the act of penetrating her before she could shoot.

I am also a responsible gun owner and behave accordingly. Often people’s egos, cause them to be confrontational. Someone who flips the bird in traffic or loses control by screaming and shouting is someone I avoid. Being taught to immediately recognize all possible conclusions, I avoid putting myself in precarious positions. Although I am willing to defend my life, I avoid these situations. Someone willing to argue over a parking spot is looking for a fight that I won’t give them.

I got my conceal carry just by filling out an application. No classes or anything, I think this should probly be harder to get 😬

Heck, any self defense teacher worth his salt should teach that lesson. I learned that in hand to hand. Avoid the confrontation. And when it rises, talk it back down. There is valor found even in fleeing...

And the biggest lesson he taught me was to do as little damage as I can when physical altercation arises. Aim not for the head, when you can knock out a leg.

I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY! I was taught how to use my fire arm from a cop and the one thing I learned is exactly what you said. But you learn all that stuff in martial arts as well. I am also trained in muay thai, but I dont go looking for a fight I avoid them. you have to be calm to assess the situation before you use it of any force that can cause harm,  Cause if you use it it's something you cannot take back.

And that is why you can't give everyone blanket permission to carry a weapon.  You'll never know how a gun carrier will behave in any situation,  especially a stressful one.

The problem being that there is no onus on other gun owners to seek the training you have.

I was just watching Cart Narcs and one dude announced he had a concealed carry and could pull it, all because he was asked to return his cart at the supermarket. He needs to read this message

I carried too, I got into a scuffle with a guy and I never drew my XD 40, I felt no need to un holster it, the guy was at Walmart and he started beating his wife like she was a man, no one wanted to step, just record it, I stepped in and he got physical with me, I may have been carrying but I can fight too, I probably would've got my ass kicked but I realized this guy can't fight, he just knows how to hit women, blah blah blah i put him down and cops seen the surveillance and took him to jail like the loser he is!. Some carriers are bullies and just look for trouble and try to be dominant like this guy in the vid, pppffftttt pathetic! R.I.P to the man.

If everyone spoke to police only with lawyers, this channel wouldn't exist LOL

Well your perfect world isn't what happens

Well your perfect world isn't what happens

Most rational, constructive, helpful comment ever.

@Philip Maras: You make too much sense. Thank you for being rational.

Yeah Philip I can appreciate that. The definitely seems like the correct behaviour you should follow when legally carrying a weapon. I just find it hard to believe that a large majority of gun owners are even capable of such a mindset and behaviour.

You I trust with this kind of thing. It's just the majority of people I don't.


The woman’s face when the defense attorney said “this man is was the true victim” fully encapsulated my reaction to this whole video. The audacity of this man is ridiculous

@G. Marie
Yes, *WE* know Drejka's history NOW, because we've read up on it. But McGlockton didn't. For all he knew it was just some random dude shouting at his wife. I'm just saying, there's steps before violence, in general. Otherwise, you are legally viewed as the initial aggressor.

@G. Marie
Yes, **WE** know Drejka's history NOW, because we've read up on it. But McGlockton didn't. For all he knew it was just some random dude shouting at his wife. I'm just saying, there's steps before violence, in general. Otherwise, you are legally viewed as the initial aggressor.

@The Great Pumpkin and no, as i’ve already said it wasnt impulse it was instinct. if someone is yelling and swearing at my wife, i would push them too because who the hell does he think he is?

@The Great Pumpkin babes. i think you’re ignoring the point that michael has been doing this alot. he starts arguments just so he can flaunt and show his gun. for gods sake, he did it towards a woman with her kids! he was definitely just waiting for someone to fight back, so he could shoot. he was a wannabe police officer. and i dont have a doubt in my mind, he would have pulled his gun out on that mother with her kid.

@G. Marie
Well, he did use force but it still cost him his life. Maybe if McGlockton had himself been armed, he could have been first to draw, but only to deter Drejka. So that wouldn't have been a use of force, but the threat of it, towards a defensive end. On the other hand, you're still just speculating b/c even if Drejka was worked up you don't know what he was actually going to do. In that moment he was just using words.

I hate being put in the position of explaining this because I don't think what Drejka did was right, but speaking in general you don't just shove someone immediately even if they are yelling at someone else. Unless they are expressing actual explicit threats, which IDK if Drejka was doing at that moment. It was obviously just a wannabe rent-a-cop ranting, although McGlockton couldn't even have known that much. That's basically my problem with his actions, is that he didn't actually know anything and he just acted out of impulse.

@The Great Pumpkin in this case he couldn’t have done anything other than use force. idk if you saw the video, but michael was agitated and i have no doubt in my mind he would’ve pulled the gun on that woman and her kids, just like he had on another woman w her kids.

@G. Marie
Him defending his family caused his family to not have him in the picture any longer. Was that a wise decision? It wasn't a decision at all, but a brute instinct that should have been tempered.

I'll never forget the lesson an uncle taught me. We were driving and some a-hole cut him off or did something crazy, and I was like "Why don't you give him a honk?" My uncle looked at me like I was a damn fool, and told me that we have no idea who that person is, what they have on them (E.g. a gun) and that it just isn't worth it. That person was in the wrong, but running up on them at a stop light would have been irrational and from a legal perspective could have gotten my uncle in trouble.

@G. Marie
You can defend without immediately resorting to force, depending on the threat. You have to use reason a little bit too. Force may be warranted, but not as the only go-to response for literally any provocation. That's just being ruled by short-sightedness. But actually, even most wild animals avoid physical conflict because they know injuries are costly and could lead to infections, which can lead to death. So this is actually even less wise than that. And in this case, it cost him his life.
EDIT: except, when defending their infants, but then animals are just acting purely on instinct and it could cause them to sacrifice themselves. Giving up your life for your child just leaves them with one less parent. Not very smart imo.

@The Great Pumpkin i saw a father and husband defefend his family. That isnt animalistic, thats fatherly instinct.

@G. Marie <br>It's just not wise to escalate. You saw what happened here. One idiot pushed another idiot. and that idiot got shot by the idiot who overreacted just as much. You can't let your emotions overtake you like that. You're not an animal.

@G. Marie
It's just not wise to escalate. You saw what happened here. One idiot pushed another idiot. and that idiot got shot by the idiot who overreacted just as much. You can't let your emotions overtake you like that. You're not an animal.

@Herbert West <br>I agree he's the original instigator, and that he's not the parking lot police. I already said this, in fact. Still, generally, you don't run up and shove someone or put your hands on someone at all who hasn't put their hands on you first. That's just escalating the situation.

@Herbert West
I agree he's the original instigator, and that he's not the parking lot police. I already said this, in fact. Still, generally, you don't run up and shove someone or put your hands on someone at all who hasn't put their hands on you first. That's just escalating the situation.

@Miriam Bamford "If he didn't pull out his gun, who knows what's gonna happen next."
Do you... at any time... see any continuation of aggressive action on the part of McGlockton, after the initial push?  "Stopping the threat" was achieved by pulling out the gun.  What is supposed to be the goal?  Stopping

the threat or ending any possibility of a threat. You don't seem to take into account that "the fear" he was under is automatically reversed by the fact that he has a gun and McGlockton doesn't.  Is this whole thing as simple as "you pushed me"... "I feel threatened"...."now I can kill you"?

Once Mr. McGlockton shoved Mr. Drejka down... and the Mr. Drejka subsequently removed his gun.... the gun itself was obviously a deterrent to any further escalation of the incident ... because Mr. McGlockton backed up at the point the gun was withdrawn. The drawn gun and Mr. McGlockton backing up was supposed to end this situation. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make the case that a man, who is backing up at the sight of a gun, is a threat to the person with the gun. The gun should have served as the "end-all" to the situation.

@Miriam Bamford _"If he didn't pull out his gun, who knows what's gonna happen next."_
Do you... at any time... see any continuation of aggressive action on the part of McGlockton, after the initial push?  "Stopping the threat" was achieved by pulling out the gun.  What is supposed to be the goal?  Stopping
the threat or ending any possibility of a threat. You don't seem to take into account that "the fear" he was under is automatically reversed by the fact that he has a gun and McGlockton doesn't.  Is this whole thing as simple as "you pushed me"... "I feel threatened"...."now I can kill you"?

Once Mr. McGlockton shoved Mr. Drejka down... and the Mr. Drejka subsequently removed his gun.... the gun itself was obviously a deterrent to any further escalation of the incident ... because Mr. McGlockton backed up at the point the gun was withdrawn. The drawn gun and Mr. McGlockton backing up was supposed to end this situation. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make the case that a man, who is backing up at the sight of a gun, is a threat to the person with the gun. The gun should have served as the "end-all" to the situation.

@Marvin Salmeron "Mike’s biggest issue is he really wanted to live out his fantasy and you see it though his interrogation he’s happy to retell the moments"
This is a key element of Drejka's character that was a focal point of the trial. He had a history of instigating these sort of incidents. Something like this was bound to happen with him one day. He was continually looking for trouble rather than minding his own business and enjoying his retirement peacefully.

@Marvin Salmeron _"Mike’s biggest issue is he really wanted to live out his fantasy and you see it though his interrogation he’s happy to retell the moments"_
This is a key element of Drejka's character that was a focal point of the trial. He had a history of instigating these sort of incidents. Something like this was bound to happen with him one day. He was continually looking for trouble rather than minding his own business and enjoying his retirement peacefully.

@The Great Pumpkin "You can deal with someone talking to your wife without putting your hands on them."
He wasn't "talking" to her. He was yelling and swearing at her. To the point where other customers, both coming OUT of the store and going in ALL stopped to watch and listen. If he had been speaking in a calm, polite manner I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have paid the least bit of attention. And he didn't need to touch the car. He had her trapped by standing blocking the door and he was speaking in a threatening manner which is part of the reason why he was convicted. Because he instigated the entire incident. He is NOT the parking lot police. It's not his property so he had no right to walk over and say ANYTHING. In doing so he became the aggressor.

@The Great Pumpkin _"You can deal with someone talking to your wife without putting your hands on them."_
He wasn't "talking" to her. He was yelling and swearing at her. To the point where other customers, both coming OUT of the store and going in ALL stopped to watch and listen. If he had been speaking in a calm, polite manner I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have paid the least bit of attention. And he didn't need to touch the car. He had her trapped by standing blocking the door and he was speaking in a threatening manner which is part of the reason why he was convicted. Because he instigated the entire incident. He is NOT the parking lot police. It's not his property so he had no right to walk over and say ANYTHING. In doing so he became the aggressor.

@Azure D I promise you, most people would simply mind their own business.

@Azure D I promise you, most people would simply mind their own business.

@Dankey Kang Drejka instigated and escalated the whole issue... He was screaming at a woman but the second he was confronted by a man he had to pull a gun out.

@Mr Bonjangle ohhhh nooooo grown man got pushed to the ground what will he ever do now:(((((((((((((

@Mr Bonjangle ohhhh nooooo grown man got pushed to the ground what will he ever do now:(((((((((((((

I’m not defending Drejka but Will not defend his victim, because he should keep his hands to himself. Especially when you are much younger and stronger. You don’t know if the other guy have a weapon. Hurting man’s pride can result in death. In Chicago people die over words every day.

defense attorneys are emotional enablers

defense attorneys are emotional enablers

@The Great Pumpkin and u get get pushed to the ground without shooting someone through the heart!!!  If he had pulled the gun… COOL!  We all agree.  If mclogton had advanced at that point, COOL!  but he didn’t!!!  I don’t think dreka is a DUNN level racist idiot, but, he is a fake military/police guy, and, as a combat veteran(Iraq)  u can’t understand how much guys like that gross me out.  Vets don’t deserve any more respect that any person… but, a guy like this clearly thinks we do… guess what… he shoulda joined in that case.  They were literally giving away multiple thousands of dollars as a signing bonus… to sign up.  The army(which I joined) and the marines were desperately short of volunteers in 2003/04.  Why didn’t he just sign up?

@Dajinn dude he is just doing his job why the hate? I feel bad for lawyers everyone has a negative opinion on them but it's their freaking job man

@Densified it is the courts responsibility to uphold the truth and enact justice. So morality has everything to do with the court

@Azure D Yea but only one ended up dead💀

@Azure D Yea but only one ended up dead💀

Well who tf do you think you are to park in a handicap spot without being handicapped and then assault another person that points IT out?

Most people would have done the same. Most people that want to live in a civilized country at least. Of course pulling out the gun was the big error from the other guy. But both did their part to get to this outcome that nobody wanted.

@Miriam Bamford did you even watch the video? He could've easily pulled out his gun and the guy who pushed him wouldn't have kept going. The video shows that very clearly.

@Dankey Kang Yep, your right. The victim shouldn't have pushed him like that. He should've remained calm and figured out what was the deal. You can't get violent and assault someone for no good, i.e., legal reason, especially when you have a family with you. The only time anyone should put their hands on someone, let alone get violent, is when there is a real and immediate danger. It's the same with this guy because it was clear to him and everyone else that he was in no immediate danger. Just really disappointing, and bad decisions were made by all involved.

@Michael mike deserves to be in prison. But the dude assaulted him rather than conduct verbal argument first to resolve the matter. Mike and the woman had ample space and inside a vehicle so the man pushed Mike out of pure over reaction. Woman could have also just moved the car since the lot was empty but then we can justify a handicapped person could park next to them, but she could also just move the vehicle, should mike keep making an issue, dial 911. Out of personally dealing with folks who think their made up neighborhood watch is a federal funded regime, I rather just keep space, speak out my discomfort and for them to cease the issue, and if it doesn’t occur I call the police and make sure I’m recording the freak out, Mike’s biggest issue is he really wanted to live out his fantasy and you see it though his interrogation he’s happy to retell the moments

@Flzrian same with rape victims. one of the reasons I never came forward legally was I didn’t think I could mentally handle a lawyer trying to defame my character

@Alexander Bell <br>Dude, calm down. You can deal with someone talking to your wife without putting your hands on them.

@Alexander Bell
Dude, calm down. You can deal with someone talking to your wife without putting your hands on them.

@CallDwn theSky So bro, you’re saying that if you saw someone screaming at your wife you wouldn’t go to defend her? I sure as shit would.

@Jack Eternus
I've seen attorneys justify their job by saying "Its better to let 10 criminals free than imprison a civilian"

I'm not familiar with the trial you referenced (Jodi Arias), and while I don't like attorneys twisting the truth like that, I do agree with this quote, 1000 percent. The actual quote is “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.” I think the quote is more meant to highlight flaws with the justice system with regard to how much of an injustice it is that anyone should ever be wrongly incarcerated, rather than to let criminals off the hook.

@Jack Eternus
-I've seen attorneys justify their job by saying "Its better to let 10 criminals free than imprison a civilian"-

I'm not familiar with the trial you referenced (Jodi Arias), and while I don't like attorneys twisting the truth like that, I do agree with this quote, 1000 percent. The actual quote is “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.” I think the quote is more meant to highlight flaws with the justice system with regard to how much of an injustice it is that anyone should ever be wrongly incarcerated, rather than to let criminals off the hook.

@Miriam Bamford i never said he was right? But there was no need for him to be shot. “Commenting this as to not seem racist” no im just baffled that the attorney would say this, chill out

The black guy was also wrong. Without even enquiring for a second about what's happening, he just push the man to the ground within one second just because the man was arguing with his wife. If he didn't pull out his gun, who knows what's gonna happen next. The audacity of this comment just so you don't look racist is more baffling.

@Michael he didn't escalate the fight. The black man did it by aggressively pushing him to the ground, potentially making him hit his head on the ground.

Him pulling out his gun was to a degree justified, but everything after that showed that he is just a guilty murderer.
The right thing to do would be to not immediatly kill a man like a dumbass, but to go away and report the assault to the authorities

@Michael dude. He isn't defending the shooter. He's explaining an angle that the defense attorney was suggesting.

@Michael dude. He isn't defending the shooter. He's explaining an angle that the defense attorney was suggesting.

Well in a sense, he was the one who initially got attacked. Just because you’re arguing with someone doesn’t mean you get to attack them. So up until he pulled the gun and shot someone who clearly yielded to him, he was the victim.

should see the black lady on the left. She rolled her eyes so hard she became part of the exorcist.

should see the black lady on the left. She rolled her eyes so hard she became part of the exorcist.

@Densified it's really horrible. it fills me with rage when they defame the murder victims in their death just to defend the literal murderers

@Dajinn he has a job to do. morality has no place in court unfortunately

@Dajinn he has a job to do. morality has no place in court unfortunately

This guy is the definition of why people think lawyers are scumbags

This guy is the definition of why people think lawyers are scumbags


this narrator is an absolute genius. The way he breaks down this whole story line, without over narrating is incredible. super super intelligent!!

Yes, proper narration, it's definitely an art in itself

All of these videos are like this, i love hearing the breakdown, its so interesting

That’s the main reason why I watch this channel

You should really consider his pateron. It’s only a buck and it’s ALL amazing material. All of his videos are 10/10

" you are probably wondering why there are asking such specific questions." he says as I'm wonder that exact thing.

So true, there great, really good at reading people too

The nattator isn't the writer though, check the bio


So if anyone is wondering, this guy got sentenced to 20 years and at the beginning of this year he was attacked by another inmate resulting in a head injury with 5 stitches. Wonder if he still thinks he made the right choice that day?

So if anyone is wondering, this guy got sentenced to 20 years and at the beginning of this year he was attacked by another inmate resulting in a head injury with 5 stitches. Wonder if he still thinks he made the right choice that day?

@Ed Zamper This sad tragedy can serve as a lesson to all of us. And i'd agree with u, we should be careful and tactful when interacting with people we don't know.

But I dont think there is any need to blame the victim. Afterall, how sure are we that the issue would've been resolved peacefully if the guy didn't shove the shooter. I mean, he was probably itching to use the gun. He had it in him, ready to pull it out at the slightest provocation. Was he waiting for physical threats at all? Maybe a bad word or odd tone was all it takes for that man to pull it out. What are the chances that, even if the guy just talked, he would shoot him anyway?

@Ed Zamper I wont ever disagree that prudence is a good thing. But if you say the man who got shot made the bigger mistake because he happened to lack prudence, i cannot agree at all. One guy died because he wasn't prudent, while the gunman killed an unarmed individual in front of his family because of parking space issues. To those who insist that the victim made a bigger mistake, i just dont know what to say.

@SuperAussieOi No. what would have prevented the situation is following the rules. 1. Don’t park illegally in a handicapped spot. 2. Don’t shove people to the ground. 3. Don’t fire your weapon if someone is backing away from you.

@SuperAussieOi No. what would have prevented the situation is following the rules. 1. Don’t park illegally in a handicapped spot. 2. Don’t shove people to the ground. 3. Don’t fire your weapon if someone is backing away from you.

@elly Well, do not confuse prudence with cowardice. You never know with people out there what are their true intentions. You certainly should not push anyone like that because you don't have context on what was happening, and still the guy knew he was right even though he was being a moron. You must approach and try to be reasonable. If the guy keeps at it, best course of action is still say okay, shut up and leave. If the guy continues to intimidate AND pushes you or makes a hint at harming your family, then you better be prepared to fight and turn it into a mush  right there with all your might and as fast as possible. There is only so many seconds of adrenaline in the body and better to use it appropriately, the guy must be neutralized as fast as possible. That should always be the last resort.<br>However, in this particular situation, that the stupid moron was going to pull a gun and actually shoot it, was totally unexpected....

@elly Well, do not confuse prudence with cowardice. You never know with people out there what are their true intentions. You certainly should not push anyone like that because you don't have context on what was happening, and still the guy knew he was right even though he was being a moron. You must approach and try to be reasonable. If the guy keeps at it, best course of action is still say okay, shut up and leave. If the guy continues to intimidate AND pushes you or makes a hint at harming your family, then you better be prepared to fight and turn it into a mush  right there with all your might and as fast as possible. There is only so many seconds of adrenaline in the body and better to use it appropriately, the guy must be neutralized as fast as possible. That should always be the last resort.
However, in this particular situation, that the stupid moron was going to pull a gun and actually shoot it, was totally unexpected....

@Ed Zamper also I'm kinda curious if you would actually do that... Let an annoying dude shout at your wife/mother/daughter over parking space, keep your peace, and do his bidding without context of iis he carrying a gun or not.

If you actually would do it for fear that a random guy carries a gun, i think there could be some problems there in itself. Maybe societies and parking spaces should be safer than that. Just my thoughts

@Ed Zamper I agree that it is smarter to try solving problems through discussion instead of resorting to violence right away. Though, can you imagine if one day you go towards your car, and an adult man is right outside it, having a heated argument with your wife while your young son/daughter is also there nearby... I think the dad's impulse when he tried to shove away the dude is coming from the instinct of protecting his family and not just pure dumb aggression.

So I still would not equate shoving someone to the ground with shooting someone multiple times, then playing the victim afterwards.

missmerbella  here is the church and here is the steeple, you can’t be racist towards white people.

missmerbella  here is the church and here is the steeple, you can’t be racist towards white people.

@john papple The way you talk about the shooter vs the dead father is really telling of your morals. Hope you unlearn all that ugliness before you hurt someone.

@john papple The way you talk about the shooter vs the dead father is really telling of your morals. Hope you unlearn all that ugliness before you hurt someone.

@Dobby From Harry Potter Also I only asked questions. I don't assume much but you're pretty blatant so you seem pretty familiar. I know people like you. You seem to be talking to me as if you're talking to the shooter from the video. I really couldn't care less about either of them. I only joined the discussion here and now you're throwing a fit. Think about that. Again, I hope you feel better.

@Dobby From Harry Potter Maybe take up a hobby to occupy yourself. Use that energy for something productive. You're poisoning yourself by letting the anger take control. Men don't act this way. I hope you start to feel better :)

@Dobby From Harry Potter Maybe take up a hobby to occupy yourself. Use that energy for something productive. You're poisoning yourself by letting the anger take control. Men don't act this way. I hope you start to feel better :)

@Dobby From Harry Potter Also, that's fascinating that so many of your friends put themselves in dumb situations. I hope you learn to cope with your personal problems. You seem to be harboring a lot of anger. Were you raised by a single mother? I ask because you act much like a woman. Calm down a bit. Anger just makes you tired and confused.

@Dobby From Harry Potter I didn't hear any shouting. I don't shout at people. I don't know what you mean by that. Nice strawman. Keep on track if you want to disagree with me civilly. Don't just make stuff up and put words in my mouth. I won't have any problem with anybody because I don't start problems. If problems come up, I know how to solve them. No need to worry about my safety. Sorry you're so upset about some dead guy you never knew. You should think about why it's causing you to behave so irrationally. It's pretty weird.

@john papple How about you get off the comments and go shout at a woman and some children since apparently you find that totally ok. Don’t come crying to me when the husband shows up, I tried telling you.

@john papple How about you get off the comments and go shout at a woman and some children since apparently you find that totally ok. Don’t come crying to me when the husband shows up, I tried telling you.

Thank you i was thinking he will get 10-12 years but 20 is better.

Thank you i was thinking he will get 10-12 years but 20 is better.

@elly Well it is a bigger mistake because he triggered an stramger that might react overboard,as it happened in this case. Smarter approach would be to ask what's the problem and yield to the request to move the car as the idiot with the gun was correct in his assertion in the first pkace.

@Disgusting the bigger mistake was shoving a dude compared to KILLING someone? WTF?  Get your priorities in order.

@Disgusting the bigger mistake was shoving a dude compared to KILLING someone? WTF?  Get your priorities in order.

Only 20 years? I was expecting him to stay there all his life?! Isn't that how it usually is?

Only 20 years? I was expecting him to stay there all his life?! Isn't that how it usually is?

@Keith Lillis I read he has threatened ppl with his gun before, and even pointed his gun during a road rage incident, and I think it said he even shot, just to scare someone tho. That man was def looking to use that gun. Have you watched the Michael Dunn case? Same sort of outcome. That guy is the biggest prick I ever saw.

@Johanna Patlan You mean apart from the women who took up a disabled space when her and her man and kids were not, and he should not have just pushed the man over   No Fault,really

@Johanna Patlan You mean apart from the women who took up a disabled space when her and her man and kids were not, and he should not have just pushed the man over   No Fault,really

Inmates probably finally got tired of him saying “negative “ and “neutralize” all the time.

Inmates probably finally got tired of him saying “negative “ and “neutralize” all the time.

@Chicken Pizza Uhmm.. did anybody say that shoving someone is okay? 🤔

@Chicken Pizza Uhmm.. did anybody say that shoving someone is okay? 🤔

Bless you for the update. I needed to hear this

Bless you for the update. I needed to hear this

@B was it her not him parked in a disabled spot?

@B was it her not him parked in a disabled spot?

Barney Fife wannabe should have just minded his own business .

Barney Fife wannabe should have just minded his own business .

@john papple The most reasonable assessment of this whole incident that I’ve seen on these comments.  I couldn’t have said it any better.

@john papple The most reasonable assessment of this whole incident that I’ve seen on these comments.  I couldn’t have said it any better.

Yall got excuses for everything.  Trayvon was walking doen the street and got shot and ysll made excuses for the white man who shot him too. Let the roles have been reversed though 😒

Yall got excuses for everything.  Trayvon was walking doen the street and got shot and ysll made excuses for the white man who shot him too. Let the roles have been reversed though 😒

@elly Escalating a verbal confrontation into a physical one is the greater mistake. You can't die by yelling back and forth. But when it's physical, you can die. Even without weapons involved.

@elly Escalating a verbal confrontation into a physical one is the greater mistake. You can't die by yelling back and forth. But when it's physical, you can die. Even without weapons involved.

@happyfacefries It sure doesn't. You have any other helpful, yet obvious information to share with us?

@happyfacefries It sure doesn't. You have any other helpful, yet obvious information to share with us?

@john papple just because it's yours doesn't give you the right to use it against or to whatever the fuck you want

@john papple just because it's yours doesn't give you the right to use it against or to whatever the fuck you want

Officer: "So explain to me... If the deer was 50 yards off the road in the field adjacent to the road... How exactly were you in imminent danger"

Dimwit: "Well I had to neutralize the threat"

Officer: "But the deer was 50 yards off...the road"

Dimwit: "He twitched"

Officer: "So you swerved off the road to ... Neutralize the threat"

Dimwit: "Affirmative delta, tango, foxtrot, anal plug"

I think he might have, haven’t watched the full episode tho, only some of it.

I think he might have, haven’t watched the full episode tho, only some of it.

@Devin Watson everyone in jail for murder is still alive while their victims are dead. That doesn’t make them in the right.

@Devin Watson everyone in jail for murder is still alive while their victims are dead. That doesn’t make them in the right.

@Satisfying Whirlpools well I mean who's still alive?

@Satisfying Whirlpools well I mean who's still alive?

@Ronin Kraut couldnt have said it better myself!!

@Ronin Kraut couldnt have said it better myself!!

He made a better choice than the other man .  🤣

He made a better choice than the other man .  🤣

@Disgusting How was that the bigger mistake? The other guy literally killed him. If he couldn't take an ass whooping he should've just left that family alone tf. They were minding their business.

@Disgusting How was that the bigger mistake? The other guy literally killed him. If he couldn't take an ass whooping he should've just left that family alone tf. They were minding their business.

@SuperAussieOi that's not my point but ok 😅 regardless if you make things illegal or not people will find a way to use them incorrectly. In America we have our second Amendent rights. Guns are used in self defense 2.5 million times per year vs 50k gun deaths per year. again half of those are suicides and most of the rest are gang violence (illegal weapons). And semi auto pistols account for the vast majority of gun violence. Very rarely are rifles or "assault rifles" (as some people like to incorrectly label them) used to kill people.

@Amara M they are banned. You aren’t allowed to carry a knife in public and cannot use one as a weapon.

@Amara M they are banned. You aren’t allowed to carry a knife in public and cannot use one as a weapon.

@Nathan van Dalen Wait what?? I was being sarcastic. Guns are used defensively 2.5 million times a year. vs around 50k gun deaths, half of those are suicides, the other 40 percent are gang violence, and they often use illegal firearms...I did look it up...you look up the FBI stats lol

@Amara M I agree. More than one person made a mistake that night, and as you pointed out, there is a huge difference in the degree of the mistake one person commited versus the other. To compare those actions as if they were on the same level seemed wrong to me. The commenter i was replying to seemed to think that shoving a person to the ground is bigger of a deal than shooting and killing an unarmed man. Or even vice versa: that murdering a person is just a minor offense comparable to pushing the person to the ground. I thought that kind of mindset quite disturbing.

@Amara M  yes. That’s exactly the point. In most countries it is forbidden to even carry a small screwdriver without a good reason.

People do not seem to understand that guns are not used for defense at all. Look it up. People who have a gun or a knife are very likely to use it for what they think is justified but is not at all.

@elly you can say that everyone made a mistake while also realizing that one stupid mistake leads to another. He should never have shot him and being pushed to the ground doesnt warrant being killed, but to only fault one person for this entire situation is also dumb...clearly no one is saying that killing someone is fine. everyone needs to use their big boy brains and realize everyone fucked up. the guy who fucked up the most was the guy who committed, in my opinion, first degree manslaughter. actions have consequences this is the real world

This dude is an UBER snitch.. He snitching on people he don't even know on a citation level offense. I bet this dude is in PC snitching on EVERYONE to try to be buddy buddy with the CO's. "Excuse me officer! Officer! I have some very important Intel on the Surenos bringing in 2 oz of black tar. That's Heroin apparently.."

@G Victor like you wouldnt do the same?
If someone is talking down to one of your loved ones, you're not gonna do anything?
Maybe not get physical but you would approach.

@G Victor like you wouldnt do the same?
If someone is talking down to one of your loved ones, you're not gonna do anything?
Maybe not get physical but you would approach.

@john papple is it that serious? People need to mind their own business.

@john papple is it that serious? People need to mind their own business.

@Just CHI-CHI I can understand your perspective. Although it's clear we have a slight difference in opinion. Thanks for the civil discussion.

@Just CHI-CHI I can understand your perspective. Although it's clear we have a slight difference in opinion. Thanks for the civil discussion.

These people never learn. He no doubt blames someone other than himself

These people never learn. He no doubt blames someone other than himself

@Karolin It shouldn't escalate. That's my point. How did it start? Blame the guy who cares about his community enough to call someone out who is inconsiderate about the needs of disabled people? Or blame the guy who attacks another man from behind like some kind of idiot? If talking to someone is where it escalated, then I guess I'm lucky as hell that I've never been shot. It couldn't have anything to do with my keeping my hands to myself and being reasonable. You say "looking for trouble". Seemed like the dead black guy had no problem starting trouble. I wonder if he thought about how bad of an idea shoving him was. We'll never know if he learned. Hopefully his kids learned to mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. That's the only way that his death could have any meaning.

@john papple Just because someone makes the dumb decision to park in a handicap space, it shouldn’t lead to someone getting shot and/or killed. This guy was looking for trouble.And, Even if someone gets <del>shoved</del> to the ground by a non-armed person, it should not lead to someone getting shot and/or killed, it’s insane.

@john papple Just because someone makes the dumb decision to park in a handicap space, it shouldn’t lead to someone getting shot and/or killed. This guy was looking for trouble.And, Even if someone gets -shoved- to the ground by a non-armed person, it should not lead to someone getting shot and/or killed, it’s insane.

@Otoshi God ok. While I disagree with you, I really don’t vehemently disagree. You seem rational and level-headed enough. My comment was really in response to the person who said this: “wife or baby-mama or whatever she is made the mistake of taking a handicap space”
If that comment isn’t loaded with a whole lot of stereotyping, insults, and condescending judgements about the victim’s character, then I don’t know what is. Of course the poster said more but I don’t care to copy the rest.

I hear you. I don’t agree but I don’t also disagree entirely.

@Just CHI-CHI They could suffer a disability. But not one warranting that parking space. Usually that parking spot is reserved for ramp access considering that the other spots are about equal distance to the door way anyways. Not really an excuse for that. No need to dig for one either. You can remain sympathetic for the victims and still be unbiased. It's obvious the murderer just looks for confrontations and if not this family it could have easily happened to another. It seems like this was just something waiting to happen. But any action you can take to minimize these kinds of unnecessary confrontations is still a good thing. In the comment section of YouTube that's something I will maintain for others. Of course if I were talking with the family I wouldn't feel the need to mention anything about that. They are well aware I am sure of the chain of events that occurred and how they could have done things differently. But no excuses need to be made. We should not attack the victims, but we should still caution against careless behavior.

@Otoshi God that’s the thing, I am not taking a side. I feel sympathetic for the victims, but that is a very logical and normal response to the situation.

First, there are different forms of disabilities. Being able to walk to the store does not completely erase the fact that anyone of them could still suffer from a disability

Second, I recognize that tragedy still happens to those who make all the right decisions and avoid confrontations. The point that the shooting would have been avoided is moot for this reason. Also, according to the video and the murderer’s interrogation, he is an aggressor and carries around a weapon to intimidate people.

I can recognize this murder as an unfortunate event with several people being at the wrong place at the wrong time, regardless of whether their individual choices led them to where they are. And most importantly - while I recognize that you’re not doing this - I strongly believe people should reserve morally judging the victims based on this silent clip. We’re all lacking context. We can avoid victim blaming by logically observing the altercation for what it was - an unfortunate misunderstanding that resulted in murder. We actually know more about the murderer from his interrogation and I can safely say he seems to live a sad life

@Just CHI-CHI I am calm and I read your comment. No need to further speculate and give her more benefits of a doubt. Parking in a handicap spot doesn't make her evil, just inconsiderate and selfish. But even in the case that she or her boyfriend is disabled despite moving around just fine to the store which tells me other parking spots would have been fine, she didn't have any plates or signs and the confrontation started there. It doesn't cost you anything to be decent and as a result you can better avoid these confrontations. I am not victim blaming, but I do think you shouldn't take away from a self-teaching moment regardless of whose side you take.

@Otoshi God but I didn’t “get my feelings in a twist” lol. Did you read what I wrote or did you respond impetuously?

I’m saying that the commenter made a lot of judgement - particularly moral judgements - about the victims based on a clip.

Everything will be alright. It’s not that serious! Calm down, silly

@Just CHI-CHI She didn't have a handicap pass. She had no right to be there. This all started because she was parked illegally. Of course that's a very minor thing compared to the rest, but yes this could have been avoided at so many different points. The shooter is guilty, but don't get your feelings in a twist because a commenter pointed out she also had done wrong.

@Just CHI-CHI <br>This little clip was actually a pretty big story. I, for one, followed it because it had a lot to do with the gun world and stand your ground laws. They were yelling at each other and the shooting victim pushed the shooter. At that point, he is the primary aggressor even if he or his wife were disabled. Words are not a reason for violence. It’s a god damned shame he was killed but his actions lead to the shooting. It’s called a “but for” in legal jargon

@Just CHI-CHI
This little clip was actually a pretty big story. I, for one, followed it because it had a lot to do with the gun world and stand your ground laws. They were yelling at each other and the shooting victim pushed the shooter. At that point, he is the primary aggressor even if he or his wife were disabled. Words are not a reason for violence. It’s a god damned shame he was killed but his actions lead to the shooting. It’s called a “but for” in legal jargon

@john papple where are you getting your information from? Do we know for a fact that both the victim and his partner were fully able-bodied? Do you know what the victim’s partner said to warrant you referring to her as “dumb.” Do you know what was said between the two parties for the victim to push the perpetrator to the ground?

You’ve made so many assertions based on a footage without audio that it is astounding!

@Mathias B I totally agree with you!  Well said..blessings🙏🏻💖

@Mathias B I totally agree with you!  Well said..blessings🙏🏻💖

The other guy is dead and left 4 kids with no father figure, because he felt like charging at a man having an argument.

The other guy is dead and left 4 kids with no father figure, because he felt like charging at a man having an argument.

@Johanna Patlan no, it's not irrelevant.

@Johanna Patlan no, it's not irrelevant.

Just goes to show to mind your own business. Yes, people who illegally park are douchebags. Yes, people who are arguing with your significant other should make you angry. But it’s better to de-escalate the situation and swallow your pride for a minute to just be able to walk away. You’ll always be grateful when you think about what COULD have happened if you reacted the wrong way.

@SuperAussieOi <br>And people like you make me happy I live in America.

@SuperAussieOi
And people like you make me happy I live in America.

5 stitches?  I tripped and fell down the stairs and broke my nose, bruised my ribs, had stitches in my forehead and lip.  Lmao.

5 stitches?  I tripped and fell down the stairs and broke my nose, bruised my ribs, had stitches in my forehead and lip.  Lmao.

@Mathias B “all he saw was a WHITE man”

That’s racist.

@Mathias B “all he saw was a WHITE man”

That’s racist.

@john papple Worse, baby-mama waited till she saw "her man" sneaking up to get out of the car and in his face to make herself appear in need of defense to her man. Baby-momma was so happy to see Drejka knocked down, but she got her man killed.

@john papple Worse, baby-mama waited till she saw "her man" sneaking up to get out of the car and in his face to make herself appear in need of defense to her man. Baby-momma was so happy to see Drejka knocked down, but she got her man killed.

@Satisfying Whirlpools apparently to some people. Hence this case.

@Satisfying Whirlpools apparently to some people. Hence this case.

@john papple While I agree with much of what you said theres one problem. The aggressor in this matter was the guy with the gun from beginning to end. Not only did he park ILLEGALLY to yell at someone who parked illegally, but he then aggressively confronted and started yelling at her. Here lies the problem he should of just parked and went into the store. He isn't a cop, he isn't a parking authority, so he has no right to chastise someone who is parking illegally. Especially since he himself parked illegally. As with the man coming out of the store; all he saw was a white man screaming, not talking, to his significant other. I would of walked up to him and got into his face in order to protect my wife and loved ones. The push might have been over board but he was more in the right than you think.

You have the perspective of someome who hasn't had someone do what he did to a love one. So you dont know how you would react. It's easy to take a high ground and say what you say when you are so detached from this situation. You have the ability to look at the situation without emotion attached and with absolute logic. That doesn't apply to this situation at all.

@godspeeding Defending? He attacked him from behind. It's on video. "OOGA BOOGA! MY WOMAN! LEAVE ME WOMAN ALONE! OOGA BOOGA!" News flash. It's not an attack to speak to someone. Normal people don't just go around shoving people for speaking to someone they know.

@godspeeding Defending? He attacked him from behind. It's on video. "OOGA BOOGA! MY WOMAN! LEAVE ME WOMAN ALONE! OOGA BOOGA!" News flash. It's not an attack to speak to someone. Normal people don't just go around shoving people for speaking to someone they know.

@john papple people like you make me feel sorry for a lot of Americans. Hopefully you don’t become the next Michael Drejka 🙏

@john papple people like you make me feel sorry for a lot of Americans. Hopefully you don’t become the next Michael Drejka 🙏

@SuperAussieOi Anything can be a weapon. Also, it doesn't matter what you think. It's my right to bear arms. It's mine.

@SuperAussieOi Anything can be a weapon. Also, it doesn't matter what you think. It's my right to bear arms. It's mine.

@Disgusting  Drejka was looking for any excuse to shoot someone. Even if not pushed.

@Disgusting  Drejka was looking for any excuse to shoot someone. Even if not pushed.

@Satisfying Whirlpools the shove got him killed. Guy who shot is essentially locked in a hotel.

@Satisfying Whirlpools the shove got him killed. Guy who shot is essentially locked in a hotel.

@john papple or maybe that guy shouldn’t be allowed to carry a gun. Ever think of that? That would have totally prevented this situation.

@john papple or maybe that guy shouldn’t be allowed to carry a gun. Ever think of that? That would have totally prevented this situation.

presumably the inmate was defending himself from an imminent threat....

presumably the inmate was defending himself from an imminent threat....

@john papple i agree, chain reaction. Bad behavior create bad things. Some people don't know your point, they just focus on the shooting and the murderer.

@john papple i agree, chain reaction. Bad behavior create bad things. Some people don't know your point, they just focus on the shooting and the murderer.

@Satisfying Whirlpools if ur white, sure it would seem right to u

@Satisfying Whirlpools if ur white, sure it would seem right to u

@john papple opinions like these get me into trouble with females when i voice them

@john papple opinions like these get me into trouble with females when i voice them

@Disgusting Biggest mistake was Michael not minding his own business.

@Disgusting Biggest mistake was Michael not minding his own business.

Oh yeah the guy that attacked him was the brother of the person he killed

Oh yeah the guy that attacked him was the brother of the person he killed

@Satisfying Whirlpools Yes, biggest and last mistake that guy ever made, right?

@Satisfying Whirlpools Yes, biggest and last mistake that guy ever made, right?

@Disgusting  shoving a person to the ground is very different from shooting one. I can't comprehend how you can compare those two. Yeah both would hurt and are wrong, but one is a LOT WORSE than the other. And you're just saying "yeah its bad he shot the person, but the other guy shouldnt have shoved him in the 1st place."

whatt????

@Disgusting A shove is a bigger mistake than killing someone????????????

@Disgusting A shove is a bigger mistake than killing someone????????????

@john papple No need for a speech. It's so irrelevant.

@john papple No need for a speech. It's so irrelevant.

@john papple you know that's a dumb thing to think. That family had no fault.

@john papple you know that's a dumb thing to think. That family had no fault.

@john papple the chain reaction of events really could have been stopped. This is something everyone needs to keep in their minds as they go about their day. Being courteous goes a long way to make positive changes

@john papple the chain reaction of events really could have been stopped. This is something everyone needs to keep in their minds as they go about their day. Being courteous goes a long way to make positive changes

Nobody made a good decision that day. Dead guy shouldn't have put hands on someone. Dead guy was shot wrongfully as a result. Wife or baby-mama or whatever she is made the mistake of taking a handicap space. The kids didn't have any choice but hopefully they end up better than their stupid parents.

And I was just thinking to myself, his I am god and nobody else matters mentality won't go over well in prison.

And I was just thinking to myself, his I am god and nobody else matters mentality won't go over well in prison.

@Disgusting he could have just stayed on the ground and played the victim, played up some injuries, then the fact that he was being a jerk in the first place would have been forgotten. Everyone would have moved on, a little pissed off but still alive and out of jail

Definitely shouldn't have shot the guy after he backed away, big mistake.<br>Also, Markeis definitely should not have come up and shoved him to the ground.  Bigger mistake.

Definitely shouldn't have shot the guy after he backed away, big mistake.
Also, Markeis definitely should not have come up and shoved him to the ground.  Bigger mistake.

Thanks man I was just about to look it up

Thanks man I was just about to look it up


I’m speechless. This guy is everything you should aspire not to be. I hope the children of the man he killed grow to be wonderful people… sad their father lost his life due to Michael…

@rafer Jefferson iii
The world needs more of that attitude.

There needs to be a mutual understanding between a man and a woman... and it is so easy for it to fall apart.

The woman needs to understand that when she starts shit, she might be putting her husband in actual physical danger (because there might come a point where the situation escalates, and when it does... it becomes the man's problem).

The man needs to TRUST that when his wife finds herself in a conflict that it truly was unavoidable, and therefore the man needs to take over and perhaps threaten violence.

This all falls apart if you've got a domineering woman that doesn't like to back down from conflicts. Makes it impossible for her man to tell the difference between petty bullshit and a real honest-to-goodness volatile situation.

If you're her man, you have to look at that situation like, "I see that you're yelling... but I don't trust that. You start shit over dumb conflicts all the time and then expect me to back you up with violence... and this habit will EVENTUALLY get me shot."

It's a terrible situation for a man to be in... not knowing whether his wife is in a situation that calls for violence... or if she's writing all sorts of checks that you can't cash because she's a self-centered impulsive hag.

Father loses his life over a parking spot! I can't understand this and sort it out in my head.

@Mateo Certain “defending his family”

An argument with words doesn’t require physical intervention.

He saw someone arguing with his wife, and thought, “I’ll show you, you SOB”
It was malice and anger, not protection.
My wife has argued many times but I don’t immediately come in and attack people.

@Mateo Certain Thanks your protective instincts are intact. Its pretty frightening to read so many argue the father shouldn't have pushed Drejka. Im shocked by it.

@Run the Numbers Wow. Lets hope you dont have a family with babies to protect.

Lol. "Aspire not to be" Hilarious. Hes lived his life having no sense of ambition whatsoever. Retired at 30 and looking to shoot someone everyday since.

@Looking 4 Things
So now you're anti-gun?
It was a perfectly legal firearm, so the first point is... he didn't break the law by simply having the gun... just like driving a car isn't illegal. But if a person driving a car doesn't stop at a crosswalk, THEN it becomes illegal.

Same thing in this case. Having a gun was not the illegal part of what transpired. The illegal part of what transpired isn't even that he shot a man who assaulted him (which is also legal). The part where what he did became illegal is when he used the gun to stop the assault... and then WHEN THE ASSAULT WAS CLEARLY OVER, he shot. Matter of fact, he probably could have legally justified shooting this man while he was being assaulted. It's the pause between the actions that made this a felony (and rightfully so... as the pause between shows that self-defense was NOT the purpose of shooting)

And if you truly are anti-gun, just look at violence statistics in areas with more gun control. It's ALWAYS higher (both raw AND per-capita). Somehow, people are safer around people with guns than they are around people without them. It's almost as though the guns served as some sort of... great equalizer or something.

It's my personal opinion that if you are a woman of gun carrying age and you aren't carrying one, you're retarded. Guns are good. Guns are hand-held steel "mutually assured destruction" and if we're going to talk statistics, women are the BEST people in the world to have guns. Even though women are not as competent with pistols, they use them more responsibly than men.

What the world needs is more men with guns... and WAAAAAAAAY more women with guns.

@Run the Numbers No that's you. You think is reasonable to pack a gun while antagonizing women and children. It's disturbing that you can't see why it's a problem. Perhaps you think Drejka should have gotten out of his old truck pointing the weapon at her and the kids.

@Mateo Certain Thanks for your comment. It's nice to see someone with knowledge reason and brains.

@Mateo Certain I agree. I can't believe Drejka found someone to marry him. No job, no ambition, no brains, no guts, no honor.

@Mateo Certain And the guy who was on the floor was defending himself. <br>So what's your point.

@Mateo Certain And the guy who was on the floor was defending himself.
So what's your point.

The guy pushed him over.
He was defending himself.
Should be end of story

@Bio mutant It is stated that the argument between Michael and the Girlfriend could be heard from inside. He left his son inside because he knew he was safe. It is safe to assume he thought Michael was a threat to his wife(and baby), because he heard the argument and pushed him. To use Micheal's words, the Boyfriend tried to neutralize the threat, unlike Michel it wouldn't of involve casualties. If he wanted to beat up Michael he could've easily done so from behind, a good blow to the head is an easy way.

What is in a name? But letters and symbols.

it's not sad he's obviously not capable of controlling his actions. In what world are his actions okay? You understand you can easily kill someone pushing them like that right? Yeah I'm sure his kids will be great people lol what a great role model father they had

@Sancho Panza A push is a push, killing someone because of a push is pretty pathetic.

@Mateo Certain if you think physically assaulting someone because they yelled at your girl, you might catch a bullet just like this man did. Words are words. Dying over words isn't very manly.

@Mateo Certain defending his family from what? A guy literally asking why they parked in a handicapped parking space? Zero prefrontal cortex

That child father was going to a local store to get a milk !!! I wonder why he doesn't return yet🤨🤔🤔🤔

I hope the children grow up to be wonderful people, too! They are the only victims here.

Against all odds of being raised partway through childhood by two classless, entitled people that park in handicapped spaces, assault people over words, and then raised the second half of their childhood without a father thanks to Johnny Shooter that was just itchin' to use those hollow points.

@Mateo Certain

Dude... skip jury duty. You don't have the temperment for it.

@Run the Numbers honestly dude, this was a lot. you’re spitting so much to make the victim look like some bad dude. he believed his wife and children were possibly in danger. the fact that you automatically start calling him a bad person for a simple shove says a lot. all these other things you bring up are fine points if the defender hadn’t genuinely shot and killed the victim. if the defendant had punched him then sure you could say that was justified and they’re equal parties. but if someone starts walking towards my wife screaming profanities, im not gonna stop and listen if they specifically say they’re gonna harm her, i am gonna be sure as hell to walk right towards him and put distance between him most likely gonna shove him. he had no right to shot, any person who has any common sense would feel that shove and be like “alright sht i was getting too much” and walk away or just get up and continue. he took his gun pointed it at a man backing away and shot him.

@Run the Numbers  yikes, for a lot of fake legal talk you sure don’t seem to understand the definition of legal assault. Assault is not physical, verbal assault is infact perfectly legal cause for self defense/protection defense. The man had legal right to shove him given that he feared his wife was in danger due to the verbal assault. Michael saw the man back up and start to turn away, michael had no reason to shoot him because the man was not at all showing any sign of hurting him further then a shove.

Look at the double-standard here in the comments.

"Just because a guy shoves you doesn't give you the right to shoot him"

True... but apply the same reasoning to the following.

"Just because someone is arguing with a woman (wife, girlfriend, stranger... I don't know their relationship) it doesn't give you the right to tackle him to the ground."

The yelling back and forth, obnoxious as it might be, is completely legal. Deal with it legally.

The victim is the first person to push this confrontation over the threshold into assault. Well congrats... you got shot. Bet you wish you hadn't assaulted him, huh?

Now of course, I'm not saying I think that shooting was justified. It wasn't. But as I see it, the victim assaulted an innocent man (legally, that man WAS innocent at that time) and Michael murdered a man who assaulted him. Both are guilty of taking a bad situation and making it worse.

If Michael had just used his gun justifiably, the man who shoved him would most likely have been charged.

You can't dig yourself out of a hole. Both of them are guilty of trying.

@Mateo Certain yess that’s what i‘m saying. i can totally understand the way the victim reacted, i mean, who wouldn’t. there’s literally nothing that could convince me the shooting was justified, because it simply wasn’t. i’m really sorry for his family especially his children and i hope they all have a good life despite the circumstances

@sürpriz.dersim62 the victim didn’t start it tho, he was defending his family, id do the same thing if anyone started walking towards my girl and yelling at her. the suspect initiated the entire thing and the victim was just protecting his family for a split second.

@Jimbo Jones I agree violence is wrong but that doesn't deserve death

@Jimbo Jones who knows? Michael just threatened another person in that same parking lot the month before, in other words, he had a history, i think if it wasn’t this guy, it would’ve been anither guy as he was most likely just looking for a person to “rightfully” shoot. As for the victim, we won’t ever know if he was “starting a fight” or simply trying to defend his girlfriend because he never got to give his side of the story, regardless, the consequence doesn’t fit the action, he literally only pushed him, he didn’t beat him up or anything, he was objectively not a threat and it’s obvious from the video Micheal knew that.

@Jimbo Jones as i said, it started because the victim couldn’t hold himself back, but shooting someone is really just so disgusting. agreed.

@sürpriz.dersim62 yeah there's no justification for the man shooting him. He held up the gun paused for a second and then shot a man just standing and looking at him. Some people have a messed up idea of what self defence is they think if someone hits them they can use any level of violence they want.

It doesn't matter whether the victim was right or wrong, he started an unnecessary fight with an idiot and it cost him his life, if he just talked to him and wasn't so aggressive he would be alive. The other man was 100% wrong but it was the victim that escalated it to violence.

@Jimbo Jones i think he just wanted to protect his girlfriend, i mean yea at some point it sure was unnecessary, but if you think about it, it may or may not seem justified. people could argue about that all day, what matters is the fact that killing someone really is not an option, nor should it ever be one. starting a fight is one thing, but killing a breathing person because you just feel like that’s the only thing that’s going to protect you is 1. not only pussy behavior but 2. also a completely different chapter

Dude shouldn't have assaulted this man and he would still be alive. Starting a fight is always a stupid idea