Imagine wanting to be a cop so bad that you feel the need to enforce parking at a gas station.

Imagine wanting to be a cop so bad that you feel the need to enforce parking at a gas station.

@Trumpty The Clown To be fair I think the guy was very dumb and careless but not malicious.  I think he deserves some punishment but maybe not what he's going through rn...

@Trumpty The Clown To be fair I think the guy was very dumb and careless but not malicious.  I think he deserves some punishment but maybe not what he's going through rn...

@Herbert West

First mistake, illegally parking in handicap stall. Second mistake, physically assaulting someone that calls you out on it (that turns out to be a gun carrying nutcase).

@Herbert West

First mistake, illegally parking in handicap stall. Second mistake, physically assaulting someone that calls you out on it (that turns out to be a gun carrying nutcase).

@Herbert West I payed attention. It's not illegal to tell someone that is illegally parked that they are not allowed to park there. Maybe you should try and pay attention to the law.

@Herbert West I payed attention. It's not illegal to tell someone that is illegally parked that they are not allowed to park there. Maybe you should try and pay attention to the law.

@SuperSora "non of this would have happened if the man didn't assault him for no reason."
He was yelling at and threatening his wife while his small children were in the backseat. Try to pay attention.

@SuperSora _"non of this would have happened if the man didn't assault him for no reason."_
He was yelling at and threatening his wife while his small children were in the backseat. Try to pay attention.

@L X Drejka wasn't disabled. Learn the basic facts of the case before commenting next time 👍

@L X Drejka wasn't disabled. Learn the basic facts of the case before commenting next time 👍

@Red Diver
First mistake: Cosplaying as the handicap placard inspector
Second mistake: Thinking any kind of physical provocation give you the right to respond with deadly force

@Red Diver
First mistake: Cosplaying as the handicap placard inspector
Second mistake: Thinking any kind of physical provocation give you the right to respond with deadly force

@Tyler Godby It's not up to Drejka to hold anyone accountable for anything. It was a situation that didn't concern him whatsoever.

@Tyler Godby It's not up to Drejka to hold anyone accountable for anything. It was a situation that didn't concern him whatsoever.

@Trumpty The Clown is that what happened to him?

@Trumpty The Clown is that what happened to him?

@L X these type of cases bring out the most pathetic people...

@L X these type of cases bring out the most pathetic people...

@Tyler Godby He wasn't hired by the gas station and there were spots open much closer, it's not his place to hold anyone accountable.  He was playing citizen tough guy over handicapped parking spots and took a father of 4 away from their family over that.  This shit shouldn't even be a debate, it's pathetic that it is.

@SuperSora actually he was harassing someone, which isn’t legal bud

@SuperSora actually he was harassing someone, which isn’t legal bud

@Tyler Godby Ah yes how dare you hold them accountable only because you’re now bold enough from the presence of a gun at your side

@Tyler Godby Ah yes how dare you hold them accountable only because you’re now bold enough from the presence of a gun at your side

Imagine telling people that’s my store because I go inside everyday.

Imagine telling people that’s my store because I go inside everyday.

Exactly , When it's so much Other SERIOUS CRIMES being committed SMH Kids Being Raped , Beat , killed All Types Of Fucked Up Shit Smh

Exactly , When it's so much Other SERIOUS CRIMES being committed SMH Kids Being Raped , Beat , killed All Types Of Fucked Up Shit Smh

@dearheart 3 Probably call the cops. Plus, it wasnt that much force, he literally had to fake being injured

@dearheart 3 Probably call the cops. Plus, it wasnt that much force, he literally had to fake being injured

@Toomany Francis how does shooting his assailant change the fact that he was a victim of assault? Also what he did was in no way harassment, annoying maybe but still miles away from harassment.

@Toomany Francis how does shooting his assailant change the fact that he was a victim of assault? Also what he did was in no way harassment, annoying maybe but still miles away from harassment.

@SuperSora Drejka's actions towards the family before he shot the father could have been considered harassment.

The important thing to note is the series of escalation. The family had parked in a handicapped spot, Drejka harassed the family for it, the father assaulted Drejka, at this point Drejka would have been the victim and he could have even pressed charges for assault if he wanted to. The moment Drejka pulled out his firearm he was no longer the victim.

@Tyler Godby I have never in my life checked the license plates in the handicapped spots. Who the hell does that? That's not holding somebody accountable, that is instigating.

@Tyler Godby I have never in my life checked the license plates in the handicapped spots. Who the hell does that? That's not holding somebody accountable, that is instigating.

@rand0mn33ss As with many murders, the victims are often the more aggressive initiators of violence. As was the case here. This is not a defense for Drejka. But it is inaccurate to say that the victim was innocent.

@rand0mn33ss As with many murders, the victims are often the more aggressive initiators of violence. As was the case here. This is not a defense for Drejka. But it is inaccurate to say that the victim was innocent.

@Looking 4 Things As with fire codes, designated handicapped stalls are indeed, within the purview of city and township regulations.<br>Do your homework.

@Looking 4 Things As with fire codes, designated handicapped stalls are indeed, within the purview of city and township regulations.
Do your homework.

@Red Diver Nice way to blame the victim.

@Red Diver Nice way to blame the victim.

@Sheryl Ferraro exactly the guy that got shot was just taking up for his gf who was getting screamed at by some stranger over a parking spot

@Sheryl Ferraro exactly the guy that got shot was just taking up for his gf who was getting screamed at by some stranger over a parking spot

Yeah really weird to get in a full fledge screaming match with a stranger for parking where they shouldn’t though it really had nothing to do with him. 😬🙄

Yeah really weird to get in a full fledge screaming match with a stranger for parking where they shouldn’t though it really had nothing to do with him. 😬🙄

@Looking 4 Things Good luck in going back to school .

@Looking 4 Things Good luck in going back to school .

@CHRISTO BOSMAN Well no I don't. No need to respond. I'm done. Be well

@CHRISTO BOSMAN Well no I don't. No need to respond. I'm done. Be well

@Looking 4 Things I'm glad to see that you know now what the difference is between racist and culture conscious , you too , go well

@Looking 4 Things I'm glad to see that you know now what the difference is between racist and culture conscious , you too , go well

@CHRISTO BOSMAN I can appreciate that. By the way, it's "waste on you". not "waist"  If you're going to tell me to go back to school you should be aware of your own shortcomings. Be well.

@CHRISTO BOSMAN I can appreciate that. By the way, it's "waste on you". not "waist"  If you're going to tell me to go back to school you should be aware of your own shortcomings. Be well.

@Looking 4 Things thanks for telling me ,  you deserve a Noddy badge , English is my second language and I'm writing fast because I haven't got time to waist on you .

@Looking 4 Things thanks for telling me ,  you deserve a Noddy badge , English is my second language and I'm writing fast because I haven't got time to waist on you .

@CHRISTO BOSMAN Conscious is not spelled "consios"  Perhaps you will take your own advice?

@CHRISTO BOSMAN Conscious is not spelled "consios"  Perhaps you will take your own advice?

@Looking 4 Things you call it racist , I call it culture consios , their is a big difference between the two , look it up or go back to school

@Looking 4 Things you call it racist , I call it culture consios , their is a big difference between the two , look it up or go back to school

@TheMidnightCaptain I grew up with five brothers if I was that mother and any of my five brothers were to see that bully harassing me, he wouldn't have the time to reach for his gun.  Midnight Captain I'm safer with brothers thank you very much.

@TheMidnightCaptain I grew up with five brothers if I was that mother and any of my five brothers were to see that bully harassing me, he wouldn't have the time to reach for his gun.  Midnight Captain I'm safer with brothers thank you very much.

@Ryan Hazel I know. Now she's packing a weapon. lol

@Ryan Hazel I know. Now she's packing a weapon. lol

@CHRISTO BOSMAN "Some cultures are known for breaking laws?" That is a racist statement and I'm calling you out on that. Do better.

@CHRISTO BOSMAN "Some cultures are known for breaking laws?" That is a racist statement and I'm calling you out on that. Do better.

@Poochie Collins The jury, We find the defendant GUILTY!"

@Poochie Collins The jury, We find the defendant GUILTY!"

@Poochie Collins You are WRONG. Swallow it like a man.

@Poochie Collins You are WRONG. Swallow it like a man.

@CHRISTO BOSMAN for the fourth time, In another video the deputy sheriff on the scene said it wasn't a legal handicapped parking space.

@CHRISTO BOSMAN for the fourth time, In another video the deputy sheriff on the scene said it wasn't a legal handicapped parking space.

@Looking 4 Things In the video I heard it was said , the only disabled parking

@Looking 4 Things In the video I heard it was said , the only disabled parking

@CHRISTO BOSMAN It wasn't an illegal parking space. It did not have legal signage approved by the town.

@CHRISTO BOSMAN It wasn't an illegal parking space. It did not have legal signage approved by the town.

@Looking 4 Things no , it wouldn't have happened if the woman didn't park on a illegal parking , go to the root of the problem , don't start looking for the problem in the middle , some cultures are known for braking laws , that pisses off those that do care about law

It's not that ,  it is the principal of the matter ,  some people just want to do wrong , if they didn't park on a disabled parking this wouldn't have happened , the wrong doings of a certain culture that don't care to brake the rules is causing friction amongst cultures that do obey the law and that piss them off .

@TheDarkerKnight I never said that, but ok. I was saying that people who complain about people parking in handicapped spots aren’t wannabe cops.

@TheDarkerKnight I never said that, but ok. I was saying that people who complain about people parking in handicapped spots aren’t wannabe cops.

@PinkOld The man who got shot couldn't abide by the basic rules of decent human behaviour and respect for each other. So couldn't his wife, obviously. I'm not at all defending the shooting, it was an extrem and terrible overreaction. But let's be real here. The man would have shoved some other dude to the ground sooner or later. Or attacked a police officer, because he was arguing with his wife (which would have continued to park in disabled parking spots), which would have also ended with him being shot. It then would have been yet another case of "racist blue man killed innocent black man for no reason". You can't just physically attack someone out of the blue. Even if your loved ones are in an argument. This is not how normal humans behave. Behave like trash, get handled like trash.

@Tyler Godby that's one of the main things wrong with society today, people do what they want and if someone correctly corrects them they just go "mind your own business". That's why people put their feet on bus seats other people have to sit on, don't get up for elderly people or pregnant women, jump the queue, park in handicapped only parking spaces etc etc

I didn’t realize parking in a handicap spot was a crime punishable by death I just thought you got a fine or something ?

I didn’t realize parking in a handicap spot was a crime punishable by death I just thought you got a fine or something ?

@Rissa Romero Nah, we need a lot more vigilantes on the streets. What can go wrong 🤞

@Rissa Romero Nah, we need a lot more vigilantes on the streets. What can go wrong 🤞

@L X he’s not disabled, he didn’t need the spot.

@L X he’s not disabled, he didn’t need the spot.

@Tyler Godby when they die because if it, yes.

@Tyler Godby when they die because if it, yes.

I found it odd that no one brought up the fact that he had said he had just been at the WAWA down the road and obviously only pulled in as he was passing by because he saw someone parked in the disabled spot and he wanted to make sure they were actually disabled! He literally said that “IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY”. I can’t say that I he got the true charge of the situation. He clearly stopped to confront the person in the disabled spot knowing he could “defend” himself(which to him means “shoot to kill” and not “shoot in the foot/leg”) That entire situation was premeditated and it’s crazy they can’t ever try to charge these disgusting things correctly when they kill people and end someone’s life because here in Florida,  they ALWAYS get off if they are white. I’m speaking as a 41 year old white female who has lived in Florida for 41 years and every year there’s someone who is more than clearly guilty yet somehow gets off!!! It’s maddening!

@SuperSora except he wasn't randomly shoving people he heard this man loudly arguing with his wife for parking in a handicapped spot that wasn't even legally installed

@SuperSora except he wasn't randomly shoving people he heard this man loudly arguing with his wife for parking in a handicapped spot that wasn't even legally installed

It’s not because he reacted unreasonably to being assaulted that he was in the wrong for holding the woman accountable for her actions. The way the woman parked in a handicapped spot, reacted to being called out and how her husband reacted to the situation shows their family’s self entitlement. They only think of themselves and couldn’t care less about others. Yes, this man was in the wrong for the way he unreasonably used deadly force, but had he acted reasonably, I guarantee this family would be the ones looking like the villains.

@TheDarkerKnight

Where did I say it did?

@TheDarkerKnight

Where did I say it did?

@TheDarkerKnight you have no legal obligation to call the police while a assault is in process.

@TheDarkerKnight you have no legal obligation to call the police while a assault is in process.

@Tyler Godby there’s holding someone accountable for their actions (check out cart narcs) and then there’s murder. He pulled out his gun, the victim clearly backed away, the suspects ground was hell and yet he fired anyway. This was murder.

@Tyler Godby there’s holding someone accountable for their actions (check out cart narcs) and then there’s murder. He pulled out his gun, the victim clearly backed away, the suspects ground was hell and yet he fired anyway. This was murder.

@SuperSora how come he didn’t just call the police then? This guy isn’t the Batman you think he is roflcopter

@SuperSora how come he didn’t just call the police then? This guy isn’t the Batman you think he is roflcopter

@Red Diver none of that is an offense warranting a death penalty though

@Red Diver none of that is an offense warranting a death penalty though

He doesn’t want to be a cop…he wants to be a vigilante 😯

He doesn’t want to be a cop…he wants to be a vigilante 😯

What blows my mind is how 3 things could have been done to have this never occurred: the couple don't park in handicap space. Michael minds his own business and ignores that that they are in handicap space. The victim sees Michael arguing with his girlfriend and doesn't shove him.

@Japheth Grimm thanks. I'm glad to see another disabled person pointing out these people's bias

@Japheth Grimm thanks. I'm glad to see another disabled person pointing out these people's bias

@Japheth Grimm It really was terrible that it ended as it did.<br>I'm sure that the man who got shot would have done it differently if he had a second chance, but Michael Drejka made that impossible because he couldn't abide by the basic rules of self-defense.

@Japheth Grimm It really was terrible that it ended as it did.
I'm sure that the man who got shot would have done it differently if he had a second chance, but Michael Drejka made that impossible because he couldn't abide by the basic rules of self-defense.

@Megan Allen Perfectly stated. Thank you.

@Megan Allen Perfectly stated. Thank you.

@PinkOld Exactly. As a disabled person, I find that the Karens of all genders are far worse than those who aren't. I rather someone stand up for their spouse and children, but it's a damn shame it ended like it did in this situation.

@PinkOld Exactly. As a disabled person, I find that the Karens of all genders are far worse than those who aren't. I rather someone stand up for their spouse and children, but it's a damn shame it ended like it did in this situation.

@Tyler Godby Fair enough, just so long as people don't take the law into their own hands when we have trained professionals for that very reason. I have no problem with people trying to call out illegal activity, hell, wish more people did.

@Tyler Godby Fair enough, just so long as people don't take the law into their own hands when we have trained professionals for that very reason. I have no problem with people trying to call out illegal activity, hell, wish more people did.

There are plenty of people like that all around the world, unfortunatly. My dad has an handicap and owns the right to park in said spots. There are always people looking for the handicapped logo.

There are plenty of people like that all around the world, unfortunatly. My dad has an handicap and owns the right to park in said spots. There are always people looking for the handicapped logo.

@Taylor Davison You don't need to be a cop to be like 'hey you shouldn't do that' to someone.

@Taylor Davison You don't need to be a cop to be like 'hey you shouldn't do that' to someone.

@Red Diver Michael's first mistake: Confronting someone breaking the law.<br>Michael's second mistake: Expecting nothing to happen.

@Red Diver Michael's first mistake: Confronting someone breaking the law.
Michael's second mistake: Expecting nothing to happen.

@Tyler Godby Yeah, that's not what this is about. He was not an officer of the law, so he had no right to confront them about it.

@Tyler Godby Yeah, that's not what this is about. He was not an officer of the law, so he had no right to confront them about it.

enforce? lol for what looking at the vehicle? fool

enforce? lol for what looking at the vehicle? fool

It is quite amazing to me the number of people going to astronomical lengths to justify this sorry excuse for a human being. Equating parking in a handicap spot (a pretty crappy thing to do tbf), & shoving a man harassing your wife who has your small child with her (a hasty, yet understandable response) to murdering someone for little to no reason is disgusting. I wonder if the victim's behavior would've been considered wrong & "thuggish" had he been a white man protecting his white wife & kids? To act like "illegal" parking & a shove is equivalent to whipping out your gun & murdering someone that didn't warrant that level of hostility is a very vile thing to do.

@PinkOld Dont be such a spoiled brat that you think simply holding someone accountable and standing up for the elderly is wrong. If her disabled grandmother had to be forced into parking somewhere far away or in tight spaces that then caused her grandma to struggle or even suffer, then both the woman and her boyfriend would flip out that someone took a spot meant for people like her disabled grandmother and caused her grief, which is called being a hypocrite and petty.💯💯

Imagine being so petty and unthoughtful of the elderly that you park in a handicapped spot with multiple open spaces right next to you which could be taken by the time an elderly person comes along while you are parked there intentionally forcing them to park somewhere far away or in tight spots.

Imagine being so violent and overprotective that you shove someone you don't know from behind just because you hear an altercation that you know nothing about and don't like it.

Yes, everyone involved made dumb decisions that could've stopped this tragedy from happening if they were just a bit more thoughtful and respectful.💯💯💯🤦♂

@Pardue The Holy Man Telling people 'hey you shouldn't be doing that' doesnt require a badge, just saying.

@Pardue The Holy Man Telling people 'hey you shouldn't be doing that' doesnt require a badge, just saying.

@Tyler Godby That's what we got 911 and police for. You wanna enforce the law, become a cop.

@Tyler Godby That's what we got 911 and police for. You wanna enforce the law, become a cop.

Markeis McGlockton was wrong to puch Michael Drejka, and Michael was SO wrong to shoot Markeis. Michael's life was not threatened, the guy didn't wanna kill Michael, he just wanted to get Micheal away from his girlfriend. Well, yes, the way that he did it was immature and irrational, but it didn't in any way justify Michael killing him. I will never understand the people justifying Michael's actions. I don't know if they realize that a man lost his life because this other man was stupid.

@Looking 4 Things I think the problem is that they are missing a fundamental understanding of how the real world works honestly. It's like trying to explain that the sky is blue to a blind person, until they actually go out and experience things, they're not going to understand. Clearly, anybody with common sense would say that shoving somebody does not warrant getting shot and killed for it. Was shoving somebody a good or smart thing to do right off of the bat? Probably not. Also, we can't tell with the footage how loud the argument was, so the father was probably spooked with having a random man arguing with his wife with his children in the same car as well. It's also a ridiculous thing to be heated about in the first place, no matter what anybody says. But it obviously doesn't warrant getting killed over it. Anybody who disagrees either needs to go outside more or are intentionally being hard headed. (I feel like the people who argue about it are confused because they have to actually use their brain for something instead of having a perfect, clear cut answer in front of them)

@Sancho Panza The shooter had no qualifications to be approaching another vehicle for any such violation. If it upset the shooter for any reason the only action the shooter should have taken was to call 911 to report it  The shooter shot a man for pushing him, after the victim witnessed him antagonizing his family which included 2 babies. What TF is wrong with you?!

@Sancho Panza
I made it clear the guy should not been shot, but until the shooter shot him, the shooter did nothing wrong.

This is where we disagree. How can you say the shooter did nothing wrong? It is not his job or responsibility to enforce parking restrictions. If it really bothered him his best course of action would have been to inform management inside the establishment or I suppose he could have reported it to police or something. But he took matters into his own hands for some reason. Like I said, while I personally don't think people should park in handicap spaces (which I think it came out later that this may not have even been the case), I also cannot understand what would drive a person to be so brazen and reckless as to confront another person over it. You have no idea what their situation is or who they are, or how they will respond. It's mostly just not worth the trouble.

@Sancho Panza
-I made it clear the guy should not been shot, but until the shooter shot him, the shooter did nothing wrong.-

This is where we disagree. How can you say the shooter did nothing wrong? It is not his job or responsibility to enforce parking restrictions. If it really bothered him his best course of action would have been to inform management inside the establishment or I suppose he could have reported it to police or something. But he took matters into his own hands for some reason. Like I said, while I personally don't think people should park in handicap spaces (which I think it came out later that this may not have even been the case), I also cannot understand what would drive a person to be so brazen and reckless as to confront another person over it. You have no idea what their situation is or who they are, or how they will respond. It's mostly just not worth the trouble.

@Sancho Panza
it gets tiring seeing people escalate to violence over words. There's nothing that can be said that justifies attacking someone over.

At no point did I ever say the initial attack (the pushing) was justified. In fact I was very surprised when seeing this the first time and the guy just ran up and pushed Drejka to the ground. My only point was that Drejka did put himself in the position where things could have escalated (which they did) by accosting someone and basically being a male Karen, and he likely only did it because the weapon he was carrying clearly emboldened him to do so. Even one of the interrogators alluded to this at one point. I also made it clear I don't think he should have been pushed, but nonetheless Drejka ultimately inserted himself into that entire conflict.

Just like the guy who pushed him was incredibly reckless while acting out of proportion to the situation, the shooter reacted the same way when he shot the guy who wasn't even attacking him any longer. It seems we agree on that. But I'm also saying that Drejka acted without thinking or caring about the consequences before the push. Just like you don't run up and shove someone to the ground because you never know how they'll respond (among other things), you also probably shouldn't try to LARP as security because you never know how others will respond. Both men took a huge risk, albeit in different ways, and while I'm still not saying the physical attack was warranted, it was still a risk the shooter took and he evidently has a history of altercations like this. All because he's armed, entitled, and likely itching to shoot someone. Like I said, there are no winners here but Drejka inserted himself into someone else's life and it bit him because now he's in jail.

@Sancho Panza
-it gets tiring seeing people escalate to violence over words. There's nothing that can be said that justifies attacking someone over.-

At no point did I ever say the initial attack (the pushing) was justified. In fact I was very surprised when seeing this the first time and the guy just ran up and pushed Drejka to the ground. My only point was that Drejka did put himself in the position where things could have escalated (which they did) by accosting someone and basically being a male Karen, and he likely only did it because the weapon he was carrying clearly emboldened him to do so. Even one of the interrogators alluded to this at one point. I also made it clear I don't think he should have been pushed, but nonetheless Drejka ultimately inserted himself into that entire conflict.

Just like the guy who pushed him was incredibly reckless while acting out of proportion to the situation, the shooter reacted the same way when he shot the guy who wasn't even attacking him any longer. It seems we agree on that. But I'm also saying that Drejka acted without thinking or caring about the consequences before the push. Just like you don't run up and shove someone to the ground because you never know how they'll respond (among other things), you also probably shouldn't try to LARP as security because you never know how others will respond. Both men took a huge risk, albeit in different ways, and while I'm still not saying the physical attack was warranted, it was still a risk the shooter took and he evidently has a history of altercations like this. All because he's armed, entitled, and likely itching to shoot someone. Like I said, there are no winners here but Drejka inserted himself into someone else's life and it bit him because now he's in jail.

@The Great Pumpkin it gets tiring seeing people escalate to violence over words. There's nothing that can be said that justifies attacking someone over.

I made it clear the guy should not been shot, but until the shooter shot him, the shooter did nothing wrong.

@Sancho Panza <br>There was actually a whole chain of events leading up to this. Part of that includes one person pestering another about where they were parked. I don't get people who are that intrusive and antagonistic. I mean I get that it's shitty but the guy who got pushed was LARPING as security/police, and look where it got him.

@Sancho Panza
There was actually a whole chain of events leading up to this. Part of that includes one person pestering another about where they were parked. I don't get people who are that intrusive and antagonistic. I mean I get that it's shitty but the guy who got pushed was LARPING as security/police, and look where it got him.

No, this wouldn't have happened if this violent high school dropout didn't attack the man. Same thing happens here in Baltimore. He had no business touching that man.

Other man should not have shot though. Once the guy backs up from you, call the police and have him arrested for assault.

@The Great Pumpkin don’t use logic on these people. They don’t take two seconds to think about the fact that he was attacked before he shot, regardless if it was a terrible shot to take.

@The Great Pumpkin don’t use logic on these people. They don’t take two seconds to think about the fact that he was attacked before he shot, regardless if it was a terrible shot to take.

As a few other people have said, there are no winners here and all three of these characters did something terrible. It's actually almost comical how every subsequent thing is just worse than the last:

1. Parking in a handicap spot (which was believed at the time by all parties) is pretty shitty
2. Pushing a complete stranger to the ground when they haven't threatened or harmed you and when you aren't armed and you have no clue who they might be is indeed idiotic behavior, not to mention extra aggro. So that's worse than #1
3. Shooting someone who's just pushed you is not proportional unless they're actually further threatening you or you legit think your life's in danger and it's just stupid (from a legal standpoint) to shoot someone who's walking away and it's also pretty cowardly, esp. when you instigated the whole thing. And that's even worse than #2

@Mont Gomery
You see someone yelling at your wife and two kids, they have a gun. What do you do?

I mean, a normal person would probably try to find out what's going on before getting physical when no one else has put their hands on anyone. Also, I really don't think he saw that he had a gun, because if he did he wouldn't have pulled up on him like that.

@Mont Gomery
-You see someone yelling at your wife and two kids, they have a gun. What do you do?-

I mean, a normal person would probably try to find out what's going on before getting physical when no one else has put their hands on anyone. Also, I really don't think he saw that he had a gun, because if he did he wouldn't have pulled up on him like that.

@Looking 4 Things
It's astonishing how many men on this feed don't have the innate protective instincts to protect their families.

So apparently you think men should agree that shoving someone who hasn't harmed you or yours is an appropriate action? You're confused: it's one thing to protect your family when there's an actual threat or harm occurring, but violently pushing someone who has not attacked you is something else entirely.

Just to be clear, I DON'T think Drejka was justified in shooting the man who pushed him either, and I do think the shooter should have been minding his business in the first place. But that is not ordinary behavior, to just run up on someone and shove them to the ground simply because they're arguing with your spouse. It's not only irrational and overly aggressive, it could be hazardous to your health.

@Looking 4 Things
-It's astonishing how many men on this feed don't have the innate protective instincts to protect their families.-

So apparently you think men should agree that shoving someone who hasn't harmed you or yours is an appropriate action? You're confused: it's one thing to protect your family when there's an actual threat or harm occurring, but violently pushing someone who has not attacked you is something else entirely.

Just to be clear, I _DON'T_ think Drejka was justified in shooting the man who pushed him either, and I do think the shooter should have been minding his business in the first place. But that is not ordinary behavior, to just run up on someone and shove them to the ground simply because they're arguing with your spouse. It's not only irrational and overly aggressive, it could be hazardous to your health.

@Sheryl Ferraro He's an instigator Sheryl. He isn't interested in finding common ground. He looks for people to fight argue and disagree with. Don't bother using your common sense with him, it's a waste of time.

@Sheryl Ferraro He's an instigator Sheryl. He isn't interested in finding common ground. He looks for people to fight argue and disagree with. Don't bother using your common sense with him, it's a waste of time.

@Victoria Munoz my comment was somewhat sarcastic. Going into the store and notifying the manager Would have been much more appropriate. Even had he just said "hey, did you know this is handicap parking?" But that is not what he did.

I was parking once at a Best Buy. The car in front of me opened a door and dumped out a bunch of trash. I brought it up like hey, that is not cool. We have one planet together. People got really mad. Even though I then drove away and parked at another business I still came out to find a severely keyed driver side door. It's not worth it. If I saw someone abuse and am mal, a child, or any person I would intervene. Hopefully that would not be life threatening to me.

@Sheryl Ferraro He wasn't ENFORCING. He was pointing out that what they did was illegal.

@Sheryl Ferraro He wasn't ENFORCING. He was pointing out that what they did was illegal.

@Looking 4 Things Wouldn't people leaving water rings on tables at a party someone kindly invited them to, be an asshole? Obviously, if you didn't get basic common courtesy training in your family environment,  it might be lucky if you had someone point out leaving water rings is not a nice thing to do.

@Looking 4 Things Shoving someone to the ground in those circumstances,  is NOT protecting your family. It's a thuggish, stupid and cowardly move. How protected is his family now with a dead Father??!! :-)

@Looking 4 Things Shoving someone to the ground in those circumstances,  is NOT protecting your family. It's a thuggish, stupid and cowardly move. How protected is his family now with a dead Father??!! :-)

@Looking 4 Things The Shooter would not have known it wasn't a legal Handicap Parking spot. He was functioning under the impression that it was. Legal or not, the idiot girl who parked there, didn't know if it was legal or not,  either. Everybody in the scenario, in those moments, believed that it was. So, the EVENTUAL  learning that it wasn't legal ( after the fact ) is irrelevant to the behaviors and actions of all these parties.

@L X Are you saying the Shooter was handicapped?

@L X Are you saying the Shooter was handicapped?

@SuperSora it might get u arrested for murdering someone, too, obviously

@SuperSora it might get u arrested for murdering someone, too, obviously

@Red Diver oh great. Thanks so much for being succinct and clarifying.

@Red Diver oh great. Thanks so much for being succinct and clarifying.

@Sheryl Ferraro As you do with the post I replied to.

@Sheryl Ferraro As you do with the post I replied to.

@Red Diver I must be misunderstanding your overall point

@Red Diver I must be misunderstanding your overall point

@PinkOld

I don’t think apology was needed after he had been pushed. He should just have walked away.

@PinkOld

I don’t think apology was needed after he had been pushed. He should just have walked away.

@Sheryl Ferraro
Drejka wasn't enforcing anything. He was verbally harassing a woman illegally parked in a handicapped stall. The woman's husband physically attacked Drejka. Drejka then shot his attacker.
This is not a defense for Drejka.

@Sheryl Ferraro
Drejka wasn't enforcing anything. He was verbally harassing a woman illegally parked in a handicapped stall. The woman's husband physically attacked Drejka. Drejka then shot his attacker.
This is not a defense for Drejka.

@Looking 4 Things great playlist on your channel...I would listen to 30 of 37 any day :)

@Looking 4 Things great playlist on your channel...I would listen to 30 of 37 any day :)

@TheMidnightCaptain And it wouldn't have happened if Drejka hadn't approached the car with a mom and her babies as the self appointed disability police.

@TheMidnightCaptain And it wouldn't have happened if Drejka hadn't approached the car with a mom and her babies as the self appointed disability police.

@Red Diver the guy had no legal authority to enforce anything. Jeesh

@Red Diver the guy had no legal authority to enforce anything. Jeesh

@jaim haas I think you're referring to the Michael Dunn case. It's similar but Dunn shot and killed the victim through the car door. Same entitled attitude.

@jaim haas I think you're referring to the Michael Dunn case. It's similar but Dunn shot and killed the victim through the car door. Same entitled attitude.

@Sheryl Ferraro
As with fire codes applying to private properties, handicapped parking stalls that are required by law are legally enforced.
This was addressed in an earlier post.

@Sheryl Ferraro
As with fire codes applying to private properties, handicapped parking stalls that are required by law are legally enforced.
This was addressed in an earlier post.

@TheMidnightCaptain You see someone yelling at your wife and two kids, they have a gun. What do you do? Stay out of it? Walk over and begin politely debating the man with the gun?

@TheMidnightCaptain You see someone yelling at your wife and two kids, they have a gun. What do you do? Stay out of it? Walk over and begin politely debating the man with the gun?

@Looking 4 Things that is exactly what I was thinking.

@Looking 4 Things that is exactly what I was thinking.

@Poochie Collins given a choice I think the man would have preferred jail time over dead

@Poochie Collins given a choice I think the man would have preferred jail time over dead

@Red Diver you missed something. That was not a legal handicap space designated by the city.

@Red Diver you missed something. That was not a legal handicap space designated by the city.

@SuperSora non of it would have happened if the self appointed parking lot patrol would have minded his own business.

@SuperSora non of it would have happened if the self appointed parking lot patrol would have minded his own business.

@L X what disabled person was assaulted? Are you saying that the shooter was disabled?

@L X what disabled person was assaulted? Are you saying that the shooter was disabled?

Imagine walking up to someone and putting your hands on them just because they are arguing with your lady friend. The shooter was in wrong, his life was not in danger and he’s an idiot,  but he probably would not have even pulled the gun out had the other man out his hands on him.

@Tyler Godby "She was in a disabled parking spot, so I began harassing her, and her husband pushed me. Naturally I shot him and killed him. I was just holding her accountable!"

@Tyler Godby "She was in a disabled parking spot, so I began harassing her, and her husband pushed me. Naturally I shot him and killed him. I was just holding her accountable!"

I don’t think you need to be a wannabe cop to get frustrated with someone who is illegally parked. I’m sure you get mad when you see someone parked in two or more parking spots.

I don’t think you need to be a wannabe cop to get frustrated with someone who is illegally parked. I’m sure you get mad when you see someone parked in two or more parking spots.

Hahaha. When there is 8 open spots available

Hahaha. When there is 8 open spots available

@Red Diver I'm sure your wife is thrilled to know that if you ever come out of a store and find some nosey stranger accosting her, that your first thoughts will be a)did my wife park illegally and b)"what if I step in and this guy's armed?!?!!?!? Better to let her deal with it alone..."

@PinkOld what are you, a Canadian?!?! (I am, lol)
When I was in Ireland, a guy says to me, "how do you get 20 drunken canadians out of your swimming pool?"
...i dunno, how?
"Just ask one of them, 'hey man, do you guys mind getting out of my swimming pool?'"

I LOVE that that is OUR reputation across the pond

@PinkOld what are you, a Canadian?!?! (I am, lol)
When I was in Ireland, a guy says to me, "how do you get 20 drunken canadians out of your swimming pool?"
...i dunno, how?
"Just ask one of them, 'hey man, do you guys mind getting out of my swimming pool?'"

I *LOVE* that that is *OUR* reputation across the pond

@Demagogue : please explain to me how parking in a handicap spot when not handicapped, and especially walking up and shoving someone to the ground with no warning for the crime of arguing (and would've gotten the guy a jail sentence) are "nothing wrong"?

and worst . got a job as a parking meter attendant

and worst . got a job as a parking meter attendant

@L X and the one who shot him is doing hard time regretting that bad decision.

@L X and the one who shot him is doing hard time regretting that bad decision.

@Tyler Godby who are they to do so? Oh yeah nobody

@Tyler Godby who are they to do so? Oh yeah nobody

@Poochie Collins It's astonishing how many men on this feed don't have the innate protective instincts to protect their families.

@Poochie Collins It's astonishing how many men on this feed don't have the innate protective instincts to protect their families.

@Looking 4 Things : I've read several articles on the case and every mention of the handicap space made it out to be legitimate.  Also, the victim shoved the eventual shooter into the ground, which if he didn't get shot would've gotten him jail time.

@Looking 4 Things : I've read several articles on the case and every mention of the handicap space made it out to be legitimate.  Also, the victim shoved the eventual shooter into the ground, which if he didn't get shot would've gotten him jail time.

@Bob. The joke does not bother me. The pathetic rhetoric does.

@Bob. The joke does not bother me. The pathetic rhetoric does.

@Red Diver Man they just said it as a joke. They don't actually think you're drejka's bf lol

@Red Diver Man they just said it as a joke. They don't actually think you're drejka's bf lol

@Looking 4 Things

Casting aspersions about gender preference/sexual orientation of someone because they disagree with you on a subject.
Pathetic. Name calling is always the go to rhetorical move when one can no longer defend their POV.
LOL.

@Looking 4 Things

Casting aspersions about gender preference/sexual orientation of someone because they disagree with you on a subject.
Pathetic. Name calling is always the go to rhetorical move when one can no longer defend their POV.
LOL.

@Looking 4 Things
As stores can require masks and call cops on non compliance issues, so can handicapped stalls be enforced.
Sorry. Thanks for playing.

@Looking 4 Things
As stores can require masks and call cops on non compliance issues, so can handicapped stalls be enforced.
Sorry. Thanks for playing.

@PinkOld whatever you say bro, you go to Texas and start randomly shoving people and we'll see who's what gets recalibrated

@PinkOld whatever you say bro, you go to Texas and start randomly shoving people and we'll see who's what gets recalibrated

@SuperSora If you're honestly taking the side of Drejka over the man he shot, you really need to get your moral compass recalibrated.

@SuperSora If you're honestly taking the side of Drejka over the man he shot, you really need to get your moral compass recalibrated.

@Red Diver You're not listening. The handicapped parking space was not legal. NOT LEGAL. Therefore the victim committed no crime. You are wrong.

@Red Diver You're not listening. The handicapped parking space was not legal. NOT LEGAL. Therefore the victim committed no crime. You are wrong.

@PinkOld the difference is that being a man Karen is legal while assaulting someone isn't.

@PinkOld the difference is that being a man Karen is legal while assaulting someone isn't.

@SuperSora No, none of this would have happened if Drejka hadn't decided that he was the appointed man-Karen.

@SuperSora No, none of this would have happened if Drejka hadn't decided that he was the appointed man-Karen.

@PinkOld non of this would have happened if the man didn't assault him for no reason.

@PinkOld non of this would have happened if the man didn't assault him for no reason.

@jaim haas
"... shoot somebody out the window that was "innocent".
What does that even mean?

@jaim haas
"... shoot somebody out the window that was "innocent".
What does that even mean?

@Red Diver this is a very important point that few want to understand.  He didn't shoot somebody out the window that was "innocent".

@Red Diver this is a very important point that few want to understand.  He didn't shoot somebody out the window that was "innocent".

@L X Nah, best part is Michael living a nightmare in prison being assaulted being the norm. Constant fear! They're already trying to take his life.

@L X Nah, best part is Michael living a nightmare in prison being assaulted being the norm. Constant fear! They're already trying to take his life.

@Trumpty The Clown the happy ending is that the guy who illegally parks in handicapped spots and then assaults disabled people who tell him that's a scumbag move is dead, that's the best part of all of this

@Trumpty The Clown the happy ending is that the guy who illegally parks in handicapped spots and then assaults disabled people who tell him that's a scumbag move is dead, that's the best part of all of this

"Imagine" Being locked up in prison like Michael, minding your business, then....

An inmate stuffs a large metal object in his sock, and bashes Michael in the back of the head causeing 5 stitches to his cranium. And still looking forward to just 18 more years of this life! 🤣🤣🤣 I love happy endings!

First mistake: Illegally park in handicap stall<br>Second mistake: Physically assault someone with a gun (How do you know if they have a gun? You don't).

First mistake: Illegally park in handicap stall
Second mistake: Physically assault someone with a gun (How do you know if they have a gun? You don't).

@Looking 4 Things " Police are entitled to operate on private property, such as a parking lot, based on statutory requirements for things like sufficient handicapped parking ..."<br>The above applies in all 50 states.

@Looking 4 Things " Police are entitled to operate on private property, such as a parking lot, based on statutory requirements for things like sufficient handicapped parking ..."
The above applies in all 50 states.

Lol. And the disabled parking signs were not legally installed by the town. Mr know it all was wrong regardless.

Lol. And the disabled parking signs were not legally installed by the town. Mr know it all was wrong regardless.

How dare someone hold someone else accountable for their actions.

How dare someone hold someone else accountable for their actions.


For anyone new here:

Michael Drejka was sentenced to 20 years in prison on October 10, 2019. He was also seriously beaten in prison in february 2020.
He has no possibility of parole and he will be out when he is 67 years old.

@Rosa Lind "You ain't need sell me..." Sound like you from the same hood as the victim. No wonder you think him attacking someone over words is justified.

@Rosa Lind "You ain't need sell me..." Sound like you from the same hood as the victim. No wonder you think him attacking someone over words is justified.

No tears from me. I have absolutely no empathy for this person.

No tears from me. I have absolutely no empathy for this person.

@Janoy Cresva yeah, because the government didn’t just literally just hand their citizens guns.

@Janoy Cresva yeah, because the government didn’t just literally just hand their citizens guns.

He doesn’t look like he’d do well in prison but then again most men wouldn’t.

He doesn’t look like he’d do well in prison but then again most men wouldn’t.

Ooh tell us more about the beat down...did it hurt? LoL

Ooh tell us more about the beat down...did it hurt? LoL

I can't say I cried over his beating. Perhaps prison justice will help Drejka finally self-reflect and admit responsibility for murdering a father who was justified to protect his family from danger.

I can't say I cried over his beating. Perhaps prison justice will help Drejka finally self-reflect and admit responsibility for murdering a father who was justified to protect his family from danger.

@yannick245 And several teardrop tattoos under his eye.

@yannick245 And several teardrop tattoos under his eye.

@BrunoFC well maybe you will learn something from this case. I once knew a Vietnamese guy who habitually pulled knives on people and had actually stabbed someone fatally and done time for manslaughter. He said to me once that these white guys were a foot taller than him and he was not just going to let them bash him. He is the only one I met that articulated it explicitly but there are many who subscribe to that train of thought. It’s no good expecting everyone to operate by the Queensberry rules just because they happen to work well for you. If you expect to be able to silence or  subdue and humiliate other men through physical force then you are likely in this day and age to learn a hard lesson just like the victim here.

@WHITEB0NE they should let people take cats to prison 😅. Dogs are usually friendly enough to bond with someone else but many cats only love one person and they could definitely be more readily accommodated happily. Besides I reckon it would generally reduce violence in prisons and improve prisoners’ mental health to have pets

@vhyles  It was only 20yrs because it was deemed Manslaughter, not 1st Degree Murder.

@vhyles  It was only 20yrs because it was deemed Manslaughter, not 1st Degree Murder.

@rafer Jefferson iii Islam isn't a race buddy. All this EvErYtHiNg Is RaCiSt nonsense has become the Boy Who Cried Wolf fable. It's insufferable at this point.

@rafer Jefferson iii Islam isn't a race buddy. All this EvErYtHiNg Is RaCiSt nonsense has become the Boy Who Cried Wolf fable. It's insufferable at this point.

Prison accelerates the aging process something awful. If he's still alive at 67, he'll likely be in no condition to enjoy his freedom.

Prison accelerates the aging process something awful. If he's still alive at 67, he'll likely be in no condition to enjoy his freedom.

right now Drejka is being punked in prison.

right now Drejka is being punked in prison.

@Turner Moczygemba Ależ ja doskonale zrozumiałem.

@Turner Moczygemba Ależ ja doskonale zrozumiałem.

@Slowa rim the rafer Jefferson man is criticizing the Vhyles man by comparing his proposed sentence to that of medieval times. Not saying that medieval law was morally proper. You need to practice reading comprehension

February 11, 2020, if I'm correct or not.

February 11, 2020, if I'm correct or not.

Thank god he is locked up for a while as the prosecutor was waffling about nothing to do with anything

Thank god he is locked up for a while as the prosecutor was waffling about nothing to do with anything

@rafer Jefferson iii you're right! I would send him rather to Kolyma. For hmm.... 2 years? There are many many fun things to do there and the weather is incredible!

@rafer Jefferson iii you're right! I would send him rather to Kolyma. For hmm.... 2 years? There are many many fun things to do there and the weather is incredible!

@rafer Jefferson iii The k8ller brought up ",black" , which ipens the doir to people's  'assumptions'

@rafer Jefferson iii The k8ller brought up ",black" , which ipens the doir to people's  'assumptions'

@rafer Jefferson iii   Every school kid knows pushing people is not always  " justified".  Most dont lesrn its PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.

@rafer Jefferson iii   Every school kid knows pushing people is not always  " justified".  Most dont lesrn its PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.

@TheApp9 What makes you think he's " learned his lesson,"?

@TheApp9 What makes you think he's " learned his lesson,"?

@K EE or the wif3 and mother who watched the love of her life shot and killed like a dog when he hurried  out to defend her and the little children

@K EE or the wif3 and mother who watched the love of her life shot and killed like a dog when he hurried  out to defend her and the little children

@Allan Wright no way.  I agree it deserves a long sentence.  I am explaining that this man wasn’t planning on murdering people.  There were aggravating factors.

@Allan Wright no way.  I agree it deserves a long sentence.  I am explaining that this man wasn’t planning on murdering people.  There were aggravating factors.

@rafer Jefferson iii , so being pushed over for abusing someone’s partner (in front of their children) justifies being killed?

@rafer Jefferson iii , so being pushed over for abusing someone’s partner (in front of their children) justifies being killed?

@Vilimir yeah some people shouldn’t have guns. The one line I always remember is “I don’t want a gun because I know I’ll use it.” If you don’t have a gun then you won’t use it.

If you’re like this guy and have one you’ll find a reason to use it. Guy should’ve just fought with his fists but instead he’s trying to be a vigilante over a parking space at a gas station.

I mean 67 is still not that old he’s still got a pretty decent amount of life left to live . What blows my mind is people who legit kill other people still can get outta prison I was in detox and there was a guy also on detox that had come a few days ahead of me that had just got out of prison for a 25 year sentence for killing another guy with a hack at the time I was 25 myself that man had been in prison my whole life but what blow my mind even more was he was out free yet he took someone’s life.

@Jockberg there's nothing to suggest this was racially motivated. I don't feel he would have given a white woman any slack either.

@Jockberg there's nothing to suggest this was racially motivated. I don't feel he would have given a white woman any slack either.

@rafer Jefferson iii Damn good to know there is no violence in prisons thailand, or china, or Nigeria.

If you seriously believe there is only violence in US prisons you are further out of touch with reality then I thought

@WHITEB0NE the dogs are better off without him!

@WHITEB0NE the dogs are better off without him!

@MusicAmore you’ve misunderstood,  I’ve been clear:

Drejka is guilty of murder
Drejka deserves a long sentence (I just find US sentences are draconian and 15 years inside is about what you get in England for murder, I don’t see why you need 20,30 or 40 year terms, just seems cruel and unusual)
The sentence shouldn’t be so the family can get revenge.
The victim didn’t deserve to die for pushing someone.

What I also said:

Drejka didn’t go out executing a black man.  He was provoked and over reacted.  You had people saying he went out executing people.  He didn’t, if the dude didn’t start a fight with him, he would have never shot him.

I don’t like Drejka, he’s a gun nut douche.

I also think it’s US gun culture and gun obsession which causes this, he was full of terms like “force multiplier” and all these things like “his hips moved”,
It’s another death entirely because of 2A.
He learned all these ideas in some gun club and wanted to use it in real life.

This would have never happened anywhere else.

@rafer Jefferson iii You have some issues man. Yea the shove was an overreaction. But Drejka diffused the situation the moment he pulled out the gun. You can see the dude clearly stop and back up and Drejka is dead focused on him knowing exactly what is happening. And yet he still decides to shoot him dead in the chest as the man is backing away.

It blows my mind you are more sympathetic to the man who literally killed an unarmed man as he was backing away, than you are to the man who shoved someone after a loud and aggressive shouting match outside with your partner over nothing.

Drejka was the aggressor from the very beginning, he went out of his way to not only engage the verbal confrontation, but also use deadly force when he got a scraped elbow. He admitted that he didnt feel physically endangered because of the sole fact the he was armed. In the video you can actually see that after the initial shove the other man was already leaving a fair gap between them and likely wasnt going to engage further even if Drejka didnt pull out a gun.

Give this guy 40 years for widowing a mother and leaving 3 kids fatherless. He didnt feel in danger from the beginning and he admits that. He had 0 reason to use deadly force and if that's the type of person you want as your neighbor that's fine, but keep those crazy trigger happy nut jobs away from my town

@rafer Jefferson iii bro. I don't think some people understood what you mean.  Sad you had a debate some random over Islamic system. When you never mention such thing. You had my like Champ. You have some very good points. 👍

@rafer Jefferson iii "it wasn't planned it was just a dumb gun nut" sounds like the perfect justification to put a dangerous person away for life

@rafer Jefferson iii "it wasn't planned it was just a dumb gun nut" sounds like the perfect justification to put a dangerous person away for life

@rafer Jefferson iii I thought that, 20 years without parole is a very harsh sentence.

@rafer Jefferson iii I thought that, 20 years without parole is a very harsh sentence.

@Shotty what difference would 20 or 15 years make?
I think many of you are just plain weird in not mentioning or discussing the part where he pushed him over and seem to think that’s reasonable and OK.
Really weird.

@rafer Jefferson iii I read it, it just contained no answer.

@rafer Jefferson iii I read it, it just contained no answer.

@PG I’m a racist murderer then.  Glad we sorted that out

@PG I’m a racist murderer then.  Glad we sorted that out

What I learned today: @rafer Jefferson iii would have done the same thing as Drejka.

What I learned today: @rafer Jefferson iii would have done the same thing as Drejka.

@BrunoFC you won’t learn anything if you don’t listen.

@BrunoFC you won’t learn anything if you don’t listen.

@rafer Jefferson iii I’m gonna go ahead and ignore everything you said due to the fact that it’s not a double standard. You are simply adamant that I would treat the situation differently when in reality I told you I wouldn’t. you just can’t accept that a white man being so intimidated by a black man pushing him that he killed them over it.

@BrunoFC it’s drawing attention to a double standard and hypocritical position.  You can write it in upper and lower case, as a dog whistle to similarly childish and obsessive CRT advocates, but that merely underlines the ill thought through groupthink position to which you subscribe and the accusation of racism is just a stock response when you can’t win an argument and therefore resort to mockery and accusation.
You’re even making things up. There was nothing said by the defendant which suggests he shot him because it was a black man, you’ve invented that because it suits you.
You’ve also mischaracterised assault as “defending his family”
You do not meet a verbal altercation with pushing people over, that is not a reasonable reaction, you know this, but seek to minimise it because you’ve got a prejudiced position and can’t judge the victims contributing actions without the racial narrative wrapped around it.
I prefer to judge both the victim and perpetrator by their actions, and not their skin colour.
If I saw my wife arguing with someone, and I immediately assaulted that person I wouldn’t be surprised if they retaliated.
Drejka is guilty of murder; simple, but he wasn’t walking around trying to execute Black people because they were black, no matter how much you want that to be true.

@Natlee Yes propably.  I"m sorry but as an european I''am a little bit sceptical about this whole puting in sombody half of a magazine because he push me thing. But do what you want.

@Natlee Yes propably.  I"m sorry but as an european I''am a little bit sceptical about this whole puting in sombody half of a magazine because he push me thing. But do what you want.

@Slowa rim I think the medieval way would withdraw his gun permit and let him get beat up hardcore every time in this until he learns his lesson of minding his own business

@Slowa rim I think the medieval way would withdraw his gun permit and let him get beat up hardcore every time in this until he learns his lesson of minding his own business

@BrunoFC yes.  If he’s just talking to my wife and child, yes, I don’t walk up to them and push them to the ground.
I doubt you would either, but you’re going to play like it’s a reasonable reaction.
This is all tied up with race, I can see why this is a pointless discussion because whatever analysis you make, you’ll say that resisting arrest or pushing people
Over in the street is justified.
If the victim was a white guy you’d say he got what he deserved.

@rafer Jefferson iii Let me get this straight. You see a complete stranger harassing your wife and children and you just ask him what’s up? And you think murdering someone is a justified response to… being pushed over? He initiated this confrontation, and deserved to be pushed away. What kinda sensitive little soy-boy cant take a shove after picking a fight?

@rafer Jefferson iii you are delusional if you think he was justified in doing what he did. as he said himself, he was not prepared for a fight, he knew that there was a good chance his actions would produce an altercation, and he only approached the car because he knew he was protected by his firearm. yes he should not have been shoved to the ground, yes he was justified in drawing his weapon, but thats it.

@jougetsu imagine if you’d said that the other way around for a black murderer.<br>So that’s what this is about.  Its not a man who shot another man.  Its racism, of course.

@jougetsu imagine if you’d said that the other way around for a black murderer.
So that’s what this is about.  Its not a man who shot another man.  Its racism, of course.

@rafer Jefferson iii Great argument. Why not just release him and let him live next to you, while you're raising your black kids. I'm sure you'd feel safe.

@rafer Jefferson iii Great argument. Why not just release him and let him live next to you, while you're raising your black kids. I'm sure you'd feel safe.

Damn. Who would've thought that Drejka would be victimised in prison? He's such a smooth-talkin' military man, I thought it'd take half a platoon of marines to bring him down.

Damn. Who would've thought that Drejka would be victimised in prison? He's such a smooth-talkin' military man, I thought it'd take half a platoon of marines to bring him down.

@BrunoFC did everyone miss the part where the guy pushed him to the ground?
The way you speak about it, it’s like he’s a serial killer looking for victims.
If you pushed someone over would you expect retaliation?
Why are we framing this as an innocent man being murdered for no reason.
If he hadn’t immediately sprung to violence over a minor disagreement he would still be alive.
Hence I don’t believe this guy would be out shooting people, only if they assaulted him

@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie
<br>Thanks

@Slowa rim *maybe.....maby is not a word

@Slowa rim *maybe.....maby is not a word

@MadMoose Exactly what you said. I have no sympathy for the maniac who owned him. But the poor dog… ugh. Can’t even think about it.

@MadMoose Exactly what you said. I have no sympathy for the maniac who owned him. But the poor dog… ugh. Can’t even think about it.

@WHITEB0NE as much as this guy sucks so bad, that really made me sad. Thinking more about the dogs, like the dogs don’t know why he’s gone, they just know that he is. Great now I’m crying. Thanks for that lol

@rafer Jefferson iii Right, for me prison is not for punishment, like forbid your kids candy for a week when they behaved wrong. It has the reason to protect others from dangerous people. A serial killer should locked up forever. He will remain a threat. A guy like this has leant his lesson and is not a threat to society. Be honest guys, with whom you’d rather share a bedroom for a night: this guy or Manson?

@Rosa Lind There are lots of positives in Islam like anything else.
“Islamic justice” as a way to deride a harsh prison sentence to me doesn’t seem edgy, it’s descriptive.
I’ll apologise provided you do the same for accusing me of racism.

@rafer Jefferson iii "Two involved allegations of Drejka showing a gun. In another, a trooper accused him of aggressive driving and cited him after a crash when Drejka braked hard in front of a woman driving with two children."

@rafer Jefferson iii Look:

The defendant had a history of starting problems. Fact.

He'd pulled his gun without justification before. In altercations he'd caused. Fact.

He approached an unknown woman because he felt moral indignation. Screamed at her. Fact.

Another arriving customer goes inside and warns the victim-to-be that his girl might be in danger outside. Fact.

He goes outside and some guy is screaming at his girl. Fact.

Victim pushes the defendant away from his girl. A crime. Fact.

The victim does not approach the defendant. Fact.

The defendant shoots the victim in the heart. Fact.

And is later convicted to 20 years. Fact.

His appeal fails. Fact.

The guy comes of as a fucking loose cannon waiting to clap. If that's not 20, what is?

@rafer Jefferson iii  No. I mean, yes, I am logical. It's a shitty comparison you're making. Islam literally has nothing to do with this. You're basically changing the conversation from why the punishment is medieval to what's wrong with Islamic law. I shit on religions any day of the week but I still don't muddle a completely unrelated topic with weirdly passive-aggressive comments about catholicism or whatever. It doesn't make sense to describe the ACTUAL way the american justice system works with how you perceive "islamic justice" to work. The only reason to compare them is to take a dig at islam. And you said it yourself that muslim nations differ greatly. So that's another point deducted.

And yes, I'm a swede. But bro. Why are you automatically assuming you know my life story because of what some foreign press has reported on Sweden?

And why are you assigning me a motive and life story because you think you've guessed my political views? Like, do you generally have good conversations and gain new insight like this?

You're acting like you have all the answers and can't be bothered with people who don't agree. It's ridiculous.

@rafer Jefferson iii "The shooting happened after McGlockton and his 5-year-old son went into the convenience store, leaving a car that was improperly parked in a spot designated for people with disabilities. Drejka confronted McGlockton’s girlfriend, Brittany Jacobs, and shouted at her about being parked in the spot.

A witness, concerned about Jacobs’ safety, went into the store and told a clerk, according to Wednesday’s ruling. McGlockton heard the witness, went outside and pushed Drejka to the ground."

@rafer Jefferson iii So you don't want to speak to me because in your imagination you know that I'm a fool? 🤭

Whatever guy.

@rafer Jefferson iii So you don't want to speak to me because in your imagination you know that I'm a fool? 🤭

Whatever guy.

@Rosa Lind Caricature is being kind.  We have race baiting liberals in this country too and I’m not interested in finding consensus as I don’t think I can learn anything from you. <br>You shoehorned racism in at the earliest point and didn’t really make a good explanation for it.  I can only conclude it’s the same kind of name calling, finger wagging real politik we see from the left here and I have no interest in forming alliances with ideologues.

@Rosa Lind Caricature is being kind.  We have race baiting liberals in this country too and I’m not interested in finding consensus as I don’t think I can learn anything from you.
You shoehorned racism in at the earliest point and didn’t really make a good explanation for it.  I can only conclude it’s the same kind of name calling, finger wagging real politik we see from the left here and I have no interest in forming alliances with ideologues.

@rafer Jefferson iii And bro, stop assigning me a motive and assuming my life story cause you've read some funky politically motivated attack piece on our immigration policies or supposed no-go zones or whatever.

It doesn't bother me in the slightest, but you're holding yourself back because you won't be able to understand what people are telling you if you continue to view us as caricatures.

@Rosa Lind he didn’t though, did he?  He didn’t walk out the house and shoot someone in cold blood.  Are you forgetting the part when the guy came and pushed him to the ground?
I wonder if the fact you’ve already brought up racism where none existed, that the colour of the perpetrator and victim is adding an element to this.
People molest children and get lighter sentences.  If that guy hadn’t pushed him, he would be alive.
It is NOT the case he’s gone out and murdered someone in cold blood.
This man deserves a long sentence, but sentencing in general in the states is very harsh compared to European countries.
I would imagine in U.K. you would have got life, out on licence after 12-14 years which I feel is about right.

@rafer Jefferson iii So you are saying if he had gotten 15 years all would be well and good. But 20 is akin to amputation of a hand?

I understand how one could make a comment like your first one about islamic law in an offhand way. But you still think it's a viable comparison? Even though they're not connected in any way and the american justice system is notorious in the whole world for being a piece of shit?

You went for a cheap point. It wasn't there. Now can we speak about why a 20 years sentence is barbaric when the defendant shot someone dead basically in cold blood and still considers himself the victim to this day?

@Rosa Lind That’s not logical.  Why would comparing US justice (which I’m stating I find draconian and vengeful) with another form of governance which is de facto draconian and vengeful be racist?
I think you’re trying really, really hard to make it about racism.
Perhaps you feel any negative connection to Islam is a form of racism, snd we have a duty to ignore it.  If you’re a Swedish liberal then that’s probably explaining that.
Another point is that Islam is a religious and political doctrine and not a race.  Unless you’re trying to say that the Islamic republic of Iran has the same racial makeup as Jordan, or Egypt, for example.

@rafer Jefferson iii I've been to a islamic country. I've been to the states, twice. But I live in Sweden. You ain't need to sell me on how either of the two former justice systems are fudged.

But I ask again: what's the correlation between an american shooting another american, a sentence passed in an american court - and islamic law? I fail to see the relevance. Why not just call it american law as that is what it is and islam is not involved in any way, shape or form?

So that's the racist comment.

@rafer Jefferson iii And lets not forget who initiated the whole situation. He coulda just gone ahead and filled his car up and left. But naw. Dude is a self-appointed parking guard out looking for trouble.

@rafer Jefferson iii And lets not forget who initiated the whole situation. He coulda just gone ahead and filled his car up and left. But naw. Dude is a self-appointed parking guard out looking for trouble.

@rafer Jefferson iii Three kids, have no father. and watched him get shot and killed....  He had a history of starting conflicts, WITH a firearm included.  He had no remorse about the a life lost, AND at his hands...NOR for the 3 kids who have no father....

@rafer Jefferson iii I mean He took someone’s life, he could have a good 30 years of life left at 67, kind of seems fair to have him rot for what’s left of his

@rafer Jefferson iii I mean He took someone’s life, he could have a good 30 years of life left at 67, kind of seems fair to have him rot for what’s left of his

@rafer Jefferson iii I think they could banish him to the neighboring village. Like in early middle ages. Mayby to yours my dear friend with stone age
<br>moral system.

@rafer Jefferson iii I think they could banish him to the neighboring village. Like in early middle ages. Mayby to yours my dear friend with stone age
moral system.

@Vilimir 40 years for this would be a medieval sentence.  20 years no parole is a pretty hardcore sentence given it wasn’t planned it was just a dumb gun nut itching to use what he’s learned in gun club.  The fact he’s been severely beaten, again, medieval.  <br>I mean, what’s the point in a massive sentence?  He’s very unlikely to do it again. The US justice system snd it’s rapey/gang prisons seems very spiteful rather than rehabilitative.

@Vilimir 40 years for this would be a medieval sentence.  20 years no parole is a pretty hardcore sentence given it wasn’t planned it was just a dumb gun nut itching to use what he’s learned in gun club.  The fact he’s been severely beaten, again, medieval.
I mean, what’s the point in a massive sentence?  He’s very unlikely to do it again. The US justice system snd it’s rapey/gang prisons seems very spiteful rather than rehabilitative.

@WHITEB0NE someone else will take good care of the dogs, not a lunatic anymore

@WHITEB0NE someone else will take good care of the dogs, not a lunatic anymore

well.... he got that beating he thought he was gonna get from a retreating subject. XD

well.... he got that beating he thought he was gonna get from a retreating subject. XD

That’s a shame. He’ll never see his dogs again 😢

That’s a shame. He’ll never see his dogs again 😢


I get the feeling that Michael is the kind of guy who spends his afternoons drawing a pistol in front of a mirror while quipping one liners

@Melatonin i don't need attention, I have no idea why you are giving yours. :D

@MegaRagingBunny  bro how much attention do you need? Just take the L and leave like an adult.

@Zen "how do I make sure everyone gets home safe?" if that was true, nobody would carry a gun as gun is a force multiplier.

@MegaRagingBunny just because I'm petty 26:51 the cop basically asks did you realize they may not like that too much? And he basically says it was fine because he takes the proper precautions and "has a permit". He's ready to take a life over a fucking parking spot. He knows it may not go well and he had his gun ready to kill over it. Nuff said. That shouldn't be your mentality as a gun owner or carrier of a firearm. Your mentality as a gun owner should be "how do I make sure everyone gets home safe?". You don't do that by confronting someone when they aren't harming anyone, and are breaking a minor traffic law.

@MegaRagingBunny  I'm sorry but when you watch the same video and even the perpetrator doesn't say at any point that he hit his head and you say that he might so you can justify his actions I once again question your intentions. You may want to skirt away from the fact that you are making the claim that the possibility of him hitting his head could be good justification for his actions despite he himself not mentioning it. So yes I think with no evidence you are trying hard to justify a murder. And saying it's your opinion doesn't get you beyond that.

@Java Ras I am not trying hard to justify anything, i have an opinion, that i have not been swayed enough to change and the character attacks keep me entertained so I hang around.

Also misrepresenting evidence? What evidence? And evidence for what? I think you are confused.

"You even lie and mention that he hit his head" You just make up stuff as you go, I never made that claim. I might have said, that he might have or could have, as no one knows other than the guy who shot.

So what other "evidence" have a lied for or have misinterpreted? As pretty much I have had only one point that iv been pushing through.

Could it be that maybe you are just not smart enough to understand my point, why isn't that option on the table?  Just because you cannot comprehend someone else point, doesn't mean its flawed or wrong or with a bad intent.

@Kimberly Diaz His lawyer didn't agree with you, most stand your ground states don't agree with you, also many sheriffs do not agree with you. Instead they clearly state not to assault strangers in states with lax gunlaws. Its not even something political - its common sense.

What am I bending? And why would I fight someone who has assaulted me? What kind of ghetto logic is that? No one should be assaulting anyone, keeping verbal arguments verbal is common sense. If your first reaction to a verbal argument is physical assault, then you need to seek treatment.

Talking about therapy, sheesh.

@Krissy Meowjust because i have a difference of opinion doesn't mean its snarky. Grow up, the world is not against you and you are not the center of it.

@Tobias He did personal attacks, so I responded by pointing out his insecurity. And how much did I focus on it, calling him out once is now a focus? OK bro ;)

@Alexander Redhorse What tough guy, what the hell are you talking about? Learn to deal with people that might have different opinion, will save a lot of frustrations in your life.

@Java Ras Racist, what has race to do with any of this?

@Java Ras Racist, what has race to do with any of this?

@Kaleb H What hero? What are you talking about?

@Kaleb H What hero? What are you talking about?

@MegaRagingBunny did you do it? Did your 20 page long thread free your hero from jail?

@qwerty asdf throwing around insults? yeah that is definitely mentality of five year-old.

@MegaRagingBunny brah if someone push you down you can pull your weapon to defend yourself but if they give up and back away you can't shoot them XD if anything you win and just file assault charge, not become a murderer yourself and face prison time.

@MegaRagingBunny mentality of a literal five year old

@MegaRagingBunny mentality of a literal five year old

@Zen give me time stamps where he says he was ok with the assault? You think going to a person and talking to them is confrontation? its worthy of physical assault?

If you say he has threatened with his gun that proves that he can control himself, if he still is allowed to carry the gun after multiple incidents means that he was justified to do it or police would have revoked his right to bear arms.

When you write stuff, do you even filter it? Obviously not, because you don't see your own contradictions.

Also calling out someone for doing something illegal is not "taking law into his hands", in some instances not calling out an illegal act and not reporting it is an illegal act.

@Kimberly Diaz that definitely deserves assault? Right? So you think that if someone ever talks to you when you don't want them to, you think you can assault them? Of course you don't, you would be in jail otherwise. Shows how far you are willing to bend reality just to fit your narrative.

He probably thinks he's the main character of an anime

He probably thinks he's the main character of an anime

@MegaRagingBunny yes because he killed someone after already harassing a woman infront of her kids. Regardless of a placard, you don’t get to random harass people.

yeah? cause he killed somone in front of his literal kids who will now never be able to see there father and are probably now traumatized

@Krissy Meow So you call me out for attacking his character, by attacking mine? <br>Its not even funny.

@Krissy Meow So you call me out for attacking his character, by attacking mine?
Its not even funny.

@MegaRagingBunny if someone came up to me and pushed me to the ground and I was scared and I had a gun, I still wouldn’t shoot the person. Anyone who automatically decides to shoot someone because that person pushed them shouldn’t own a gun and obviously has some issues. Shooting someone should be a last resort. Don’t defend a murderer that’s messed up

@CalCustom ignore the 12 year old, thanks for your service

@CalCustom ignore the 12 year old, thanks for your service

You talking to me? There’s nobody else here, so you must be talking to me.

@CalCustom " I used to hunt rhino poachers for an NGO in Namibia"<br>Aaand with that, you have won this argument and all future arguments on this subject.

@CalCustom " I used to hunt rhino poachers for an NGO in Namibia"
Aaand with that, you have won this argument and all future arguments on this subject.

@CalCustom uneducated? Baseless? Also its funny that after I call you out on liking your own comments they stop being liked 10 seconds after posting 🤣

@CalCustom also I appreciate you liking your own comments :D

@CalCustom also I appreciate you liking your own comments :D

@CalCustom oh so while being a marine, you often got in to verbal arguments about parking and got battered by physically imposing husbands while hunting poachers? You are a joke :D

@MegaRagingBunny Actually, yes I have a lot of experience in situations exactly as you described. I was a Force Reconnaissance Marine, and I used to hunt rhino poachers for an NGO in Namibia. It was my job for a decade to assess threats in violent situations despite being confused, afraid, or even concussed. Also, he clearly didn't hit his head in the video, nor did he claim he hit his head, so your entire comment is baseless. The threat had clearly deescalated before he pulled the trigger, so much so that even a person with a head injury could see.

@CalCustom the dude was assaulted, possibly hit his head while falling, he is afraid, confused and in panic. Did you asses that? Do you know how people react with head injuries? Obviously not, or you wouldn't be making stupid assumptions.

@MegaRagingBunny You clearly have no experience or training with threat assessment or reactionary procedure.

@CalCustom He wasn't "a man backing away" he was a man who thought he can beat the shit out of a guy with a gun.

@MegaRagingBunny He deserves to be in jail for a lot longer than 20 years for shooting someone who was backing away. The virtual guarantee that he practiced this sort of thing in the mirror is irrelevent to that fact.

Plenty of folks draw their pistol in the mirror. Its good practice to make sure you can safely and quickly draw your firearm. Yeah the one liners would be over the top.

@MegaRagingBunny for killing someone who was backing off? Yes.

Many people do that. But still I wouldn't shoot a person backing up

so he deserves to be in jail for 20 years? :D

so he deserves to be in jail for 20 years? :D


He's talking to the police like he thinks they are 'brothers-in-arms' debriefing him after a successful mission.  Then he rigs up a shirt-sling for his arm to act like he's the walking wounded but is soldiering on for pity.

@silkyslim2111 humor me. How should it have been handled?

Sometimes the criminal is so obvious that his brothers sacrifice him. They are likely more pissed about that than the loss of life.

@Joseph Imbert they do that to get information. If someone is intimidated by a cop in an interrogation room they’re not gonna wanna say anything and they’ll wait for a lawyer. It’s a tactic they use to get info.

he wasnt acting so tough once he was in prison dress lol

@Joseph Imbert Guy clearly thought he did something that would earn him respect, they exploited that.

@Teggiano Salerno he better pray to his god they have at least neutral position on his race because the slightest leaning to steryotyping and racisim and hes behind bars for life no matter what evidence they have against him

@Teggiano Salerno Oh yeah, a black man would treat the police just the same way this guy does. It's not like black communities think all cops are bastards or anything, that'd be ridiculous. They love the police.

@Farco LOL "I hate to be fair to a cop" look in the mirror long and hard. You are a radical. No good can come from your worldview.

@Farco LOL so when a black man kills someone in cold blood and claims self defense (happens all the time) what is he counting on?

@Teggiano Salerno The guy was counting on his white privilege getting him out of this situation but it backfired hard. I love that.

@Joseph Imbert I hate to be fair to a cop but I gotta say if you were trying to incriminate him this is exactly the way to do it.

@Joseph Imbert ??? Bro they talk like this with any criminal no matter the fuckin crime bro they gotta get something out of the suspect and without abusing or harassing them

Yes, and later he took his arm out of said sling and was gesturing with it like normal.