"The gentleman you shot is deceased"
"Thank you for telling me"

Enjoy your 20 years buddy.

"The gentleman you shot is deceased"
"Thank you for telling me"

Enjoy your 20 years buddy.

@Herbert West <br>If someone shoves you to the ground, that is reason enough to fear for your life. The reason he was found guilty is because enough time passed when he aimed the gun at him while he was backing away. If the guy kept coming towards him, it would be a different story.

@Herbert West
If someone shoves you to the ground, that is reason enough to fear for your life. The reason he was found guilty is because enough time passed when he aimed the gun at him while he was backing away. If the guy kept coming towards him, it would be a different story.

@greg77389 Not every physical assault has you in genuine fear for your life that justifies responding with deadly force.

@greg77389 Tell that to the court, he got 20 years, with the prosecution basing their case upon prior incidents where he threatened people with a handgun over road rage, that he was willing to put himself in a situation, wherein any escalation would result in him using lethal force and even camera footage that did not put him in a good light to say the least

@Nathaniel Wardif there’s one thing I’ve learned it’s that people read what they wanna read, they don’t necessarily think.

Literally every single person angry with you is an absolute toddler with their cognitive thinking lollll

@Olive cheetoman YES THANK YOU! 😆 some people are understanding me, others think I'm with the killer. I really messed up that wording but I'll just let it rock 😎

@Nathaniel Ward I had to re read what you said to understand lol. People think you’re support the shooter when really you’re saying “why would this pos show any emotion”

@Dropit what’s the difference between “minor confrontation” and assault? I’m not defending the guy but just curious at this point?

Lmao so much crying. He will enjoy his 20 years but that muppet who sucker pushed him to the ground he won't. The lesson is clear. :D if he just asks where is the problem and doesn't attack him he could live today.

@Overly Aggressive Machine  are you okay? That’s exactly the point Nathaniel is making. That the man is psychotic, so he didn’t care, and why would he? He is a racist murderer who thought he did good, so of course he doesn’t care🤨.

@Oliver Reyes  Oliver, can you not read whatsoever? They aren’t acting tough. All they were doing was pointing out that this racist murderer is so weird that he obviously wouldn’t care that he killed someone. You just misread it, and instead decided to attack this guy? Learn to read before typing out bs first😂

@Farmer Fpv  wtf are you on about? Are you insane? We were both making similar points. Could I argue that everyone else in the thread is the same person, because they all missed the point? The point they were getting across was that this racist murderer OBVIOUSLY wouldn’t care if he killed someone, because he is proud of it: do you understand now? I’m sorry your comprehension skills are awful, but it doesn’t mean anyone was defending his actions

@Bárbara Froto  you clearly can’t read Barbara? Why are you lying about what I said? Your comment is irrelevant. Next time, make a valid comment, and don’t lie and say I was defending him? THATS weird😂

@Please Fire Greg Roman  so just because it’s the internet, you’re going to just harass and bully a guy? That’s disgusting. He made a very serious point. Why is everyone in this thread thinking that this murderer is sane enough to care about killing someone? He’s disgusting, so he didn’t even think about his actions. That’s what Nathaniel was saying, and you think it’s okay to attack him? 😬

@Nathaniel Ward “if you would immorally kill someone you probably wouldn’t care. “ yes sir. That’s the point we are making. Most people don’t kill people. Most people would react with sadness and regret for having their actions lead to the death of another human being.

@Elia Elirko agreed. But there's some states that you have to be so careful with saying something like "I'm sorry".
Once you say that.. they can shift the narrative around your apology.
So then you have to be more careful with words like saying "I am sorry to hear that."
But then they people can spin it in different ways.

Watching this video kinda shows how poor the law is. The narrator even says "a lawyer would have emphasized the safety of himself without a shred of doubt"
And considering how many people like him get a lawyer and say "I was scared he would kill me" and self defense is fine.

The fact we can watch this and say 2.5 seconds is a long time, if you've ever been in a situation where there's high adrenaline.. 2.5 seconds feels like forever and an instant. So.. realistically this guy would've probably gotten away with it if be had a lawyer.

Then at which case, we wouldn't see any of this and then we would claim unjust laws etc.

Watching this video really highlights the importance of lawyers words in determining someone's freedom or not. Which in my opinion is silly.
This turns the justice system into a joke almost. As this guy would've been free if he had a lawyer.

More like "Kill confirmed." fucked up lol

More like "Kill confirmed." fucked up lol

@Nathaniel Ward It’s only basic empathy. You should care what happens to anyone to a certain extent. Even if he made a deeply reprehensible decision at the moment, he could still have the humanity to regret it. It obviously doesn't begin to rationalize/justify what they did, but the point is how you can almost never have a precise understanding of another human's mind. While there's a common way which every mind works, it's in such a way where what's actually behind people's thoughts and decisions can range from interesting, to confusing, to outright delusional, and in analyzing those kinds of attitudes you can only really hope for a few of countless reasonable possibilities, some likelier than others. Sounds super pretentious, but that's just the way I see it and how it seems to work.

Wow this comment thread is idiotic and you internet geniuses that believe you're the knights in shining white armour, allow me to translate what that Nathaniel Ward guy was saying:
If the suspect was cowardly and cold blooded enough to shoot the victim after said victim shoved him because of an argument the suspect started himself, then he would act just as cowardly and cold blooded after learning he needlessly ended the victim's life, rather than being empathetic and remorseful like any normal person would.
Don't forget that the suspect is sticking to his version of events that makes the killing justifiable, so to learn that he justifiably took someone's life wouldn't bare much weight on his conscience. Even though in reality there was obviously nothing justifiable about it whatsoever. He was the instigator and the aggressor who is also trying to play the victim.

The lack of brain cells on the internet never ceases to amaze me. Mob mentality even when you're all wrong.

@Nathaniel Ward you’re right. the moral, human reaction of someone after unintentionally killing another person is panic, uncertainty, remorse, sadness, etc. but since this man killed this other man out of cold blood it’s just right for him to react this way.

Chiled0g Ikr it's so full of misunderstandings but for some reason I'm quite hung up on it

Chiled0g Ikr it's so full of misunderstandings but for some reason I'm quite hung up on it

@Nathaniel Ward Let me guess, you are 15 and feel like you are cool because you can watch gore videos without flinching? Wow, such a big tough man.

The entire argument I just read was completely idiotic.

The entire argument I just read was completely idiotic.

imagine saying thank you for telling me lmao

imagine saying thank you for telling me lmao

why just 20 years? why not life in prison?

why just 20 years? why not life in prison?

@Farmer Fpv lmao wait you’re right. That’s awesome 😂

@Farmer Fpv lmao wait you’re right. That’s awesome 😂

I think you have the context wrong, he says that nobody else would tell him how the guy is doing like he's asked and they've told him after nobody else would

@Ivy Brooks Harry Ranyard and Nathaniel Ward are the same people. Just look at the punctuations and use of emojis. Same person bro. You busted his eggplant.

@Ivy Brooks nice one. Did you get that from r/rareinsults?

@Ivy Brooks nice one. Did you get that from r/rareinsults?

@Nathaniel Ward You’re not very good at getting the point across but I know what you’re trying to say

For all of the goons sitting here acting like Nathaniel is gonna be in the next video, pay attention to what he’s actually saying. Why would Michael Drejka, a racist who happily shot a retreating man for pushing him, care about that man? Nathaniel isn’t saying that it’s the right way to respond but that’s literally just how Michael would, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone given his interrogation and actions up to that point.

It’s not right for him to think that way but unfortunately that’s just how it is

@Nathaniel Ward you’re legal name is Nathaniel ward LMFAOOOO <br>Walking L

@Nathaniel Ward you’re legal name is Nathaniel ward LMFAOOOO
Walking L

In a case like this I think it should be life there was no excuse for that. He basically destroyed a family.

In a case like this I think it should be life there was no excuse for that. He basically destroyed a family.

I really doubt he'll finish his sentence, without having a freak accident in prison.

I really doubt he'll finish his sentence, without having a freak accident in prison.

@Nathaniel Ward death is forever, being pushed on the ground is temporary.

@Nathaniel Ward death is forever, being pushed on the ground is temporary.

@Nathaniel Ward because you kill someone

@Nathaniel Ward because you kill someone

20 years seems a bit long considering he was still acting in self-defense for the most part. The fool shoved him to the ground.

Another hero unjustly condemned by the literate masses

Another hero unjustly condemned by the literate masses

@Keep crying bro you just typed out 3 paragraphs to 3 different people 😂 who’s crying again? 😂

@Keep crying bro you just typed out 3 paragraphs to 3 different people 😂 who’s crying again? 😂

@P so pushing someone equals death to you, okay gotcha...found another psycho. Has nothing to do with perspective or MY opinion, it is a fact. Also we are not talking about someone random dying, we're talking about you killkng someone.

Thanks..I was looking to see how much time he got. Being that this was OBVIOUSLY NOT a justifiable homicide!!

Thanks..I was looking to see how much time he got. Being that this was OBVIOUSLY NOT a justifiable homicide!!

@Keep crying well seeing as though edgy is subjective, perhaps you don’t know what it means? The word valid is also subjective, do you know what valid means?

The dude didn’t attack him to the point of needing to use self defense, hence why he’s in prison. To shoot someone in cold blood and not care that you killed them is psychopath behavior, and if you think that’s normal, maybe you have some psychopathic tendencies as well?

@Hallie Lola you called someone insane on the internet without knowing them, because YOU misunderstood their comment. That's quite embarrassing.

@Ivy Brooks I don't think you know what edgy means. Their comment was very valid. Why would this man who doesn't know this guy (who had attacked him first) care whatsoever about the death of someone he had shot? Of course, he shouldn't have shot, and his response was weird, but what makes you think someone is edgy because the other user understands this crazy man doesn't care about the victim.

@Nathaniel Ward or you've simply never learned to write correctly

@Nathaniel Ward or you've simply never learned to write correctly

To be fair I could certainly see something like that being said out of shock but the way he says it is kind of odd

To be fair I could certainly see something like that being said out of shock but the way he says it is kind of odd

@Nathaniel Ward if your immediate response is to shoot someone who's clearly unarmed at the moment- then you lost your shit

@Nathaniel Ward I wouldn't kill them though, and if I did,, I would feel the gravity of taking another humans life.. that's the difference between psychopaths and normal people

@Nathaniel Ward broooo youre sooo right! I’m so emotional and you’ve never had an emotion in your life!! That makes you even more edgy bro 😩🙏 I’m sure you’re super popular with the ladies 😭

@Nathaniel Ward you could show remorse, you know, like a normal human being..

@Nathaniel Ward you could show remorse, you know, like a normal human being..

@Ivy Brooks ? I'm not trying to be edgy, I'm saying he killed the guy for pushing him down so why would he care 😆 dnt get so emotional

@Brian Badonde if you would imorally kill someone in the first place willingly then I doubt you would care

@Brian Badonde if you would imorally kill someone in the first place willingly then I doubt you would care

@Nathaniel Ward bro you’re soooo edgy! We’re all sooo impressed by your edginess! Mr Edgelord!!

@Nathaniel Ward bro you’re soooo edgy! We’re all sooo impressed by your edginess! Mr Edgelord!!

@Nathaniel Ward a random guy who he killed. Very different than some random guy you never met. Being responsible for the immoral death of someone else is a terrible thing

Why would he care about some random guy who pushed him to the ground? Do you expect him to burst into tears? 😆

Why would he care about some random guy who pushed him to the ground? Do you expect him to burst into tears? 😆


This video is fascinating,  he really really feels that he is not guilty of anything.


I certainly haven’t watched all of the court proceedings but from what was shown, his lawyer came off as very disingenuous and presented his argument in a very very poor way.


If he didn't have a gun he wouldn't dare to mess with them


Just found out about this age and im on a streak for the past two days. Think ive seen 6-7 vids now and my psyche went up and down. Im getting smarter, dumber even, i laughed, cringed, swallowed my spit heavily a few times, watched a whole episode of 1.30 hr with my glass of water in my hand which i wanted to drink but really couldnt, and so on and on. Finally im out of the bullsh1t of those billionaires and finally watching some everyday stuff


Notice how in both the Michael Drejka and Michael Dunn case, neither of them show emotion when informed the person they shot passed away, but immediately start tearing up when you mention their dog?

@Jordan Storey Yeah, That's right! Like the time when the Police caught me killing my wife. I cried. I was crying because I got caught but, I still had the decency to cry! These people have no feelings! If I was the judge they'd get five years extra for not crying, shocking behaviour!

If you actually cared about your dog 🐕 you wouldn't be commiting crimes that can get you 25-life !

Who's going too look after his dog now !?

@FC Mania  No, that's not the lesson! The lesson is be an adult and don't escalate the situation when

@FC Mania  No, that's not the lesson! The lesson is be an adult and don't escalate the situation when

@Sadie K  He didn't care for him to the point he shot him. Get a life. Out of all the things to flex on, getting mad at a murderer for not feeling empathy for the stranger he killed is bizarro 101

Right!! Like if I had been notified that I had killed someone I would probably break down into tears. I never could harm another person intentionally. If I ever did kill someone it would have to be like some freak car accident, and even then I would still cry over the loss of a life.

If you found out some angry man who shoved you died, would you be sad?<br>If you found out your dog died, would you be sad?

If you found out some angry man who shoved you died, would you be sad?
If you found out your dog died, would you be sad?

@Connor dogs are only as loyal as their food source. Try it.

@Connor dogs are only as loyal as their food source. Try it.

You mean they have more compassion for their loyal companion than their assailant? I don't find that odd.

You mean they have more compassion for their loyal companion than their assailant? I don't find that odd.

Not all dog people are nuts but lots of psychos are dog ppl lol

Not all dog people are nuts but lots of psychos are dog ppl lol

Thats because there are sick people out there who actually put the lives of their dogs over human life.

Thats because there are sick people out there who actually put the lives of their dogs over human life.

I mean he learned the man that assaulted him and he fired at died. That's the desired result when you shoot someone. Not sure what you expected

I mean, people are kinda crappy, I love my dog.

I mean, people are kinda crappy, I love my dog.

@Sadie K No it's not. If i found out that you're dead i would be like "meh, happens". And there's nothing wrong with me, a lot of people dying everyday and i'm aware of that.

You're about face charges and a lot of troubles because of that person. It's completely normal to not react to that. I'll give you another example: let's say a girl has been raped and she managed to hit him with a blunt weapon and get away quickly. Then she was told by the police that he actually died. Should she feel remorse or sadness for that matter? No.

Why on earth someone who assumed that he was in his right to shot the person would feel otherwise?

Алексей Сарычев

You know, if i would live in US, i would just called the cops.

You know, if i would live in US, i would just called the cops.

What? But this guy clearly showed emotion? He became noticeably solemn. If I thought someone had attacked me for no good reason, I wouldn't start sobbing or anything if I learned that they had died.

I was just about to comment how this case reminds me so much of that one!

I was just about to comment how this case reminds me so much of that one!

I was about to say the same thing. Nothing matters but what exists in their lives and not to families affected by what was done.

@Sadie K unless they were a criminal. criminals do push people alot. people that assault others tend to get shot

@Sadie K unless they were a criminal. criminals do push people alot. people that assault others tend to get shot

@FC Mania he assaulted a guy and got shot without talking the problem out. same thing as kyle rittenhouse.

@FC Mania he assaulted a guy and got shot without talking the problem out. same thing as kyle rittenhouse.

Alotta thet Shiet goin around apparently, eh?

Alotta thet Shiet goin around apparently, eh?

@James Flaherty they prolly have narc dogs in the state pen

@James Flaherty they prolly have narc dogs in the state pen

@Professor Gunk that's stupid interpretation.  I mean overall it's the messed up "everyone can own a gun" law, but aside of this if you feel in danger and we know the crime rates of random shootings or stabbings , IF you have an noradrenaline shoot you don't think "hm where can I aim that he won't die but just not stab or punch me to death?" no, he had no second. he turned and shot. And why would you feel awful towards someone hurting you? IF you do THAT would be messed up.  It's karma. He didn't have to push him, he wouldn't have gotten shot. But the way he backed off into the store to me even makes me think the other guy planned to kill the guy with the gun on purpose.

Also the dog thing: If there is a person hurting me on purpose (he could have hit his head on ground and also died on brain bleedings btw), why would I show a) mercy, b)remorse c) grief? But there is an innocent animal being and mabye you like dogs. Of course I would cry over a dog, a  cat, another random pet oO

@Professor Gunk that's stupid interpretation.  I mean overall it's the messed up "everyone can own a gun" -law, but aside of this- if you feel in danger and we know the crime rates of random shootings or stabbings , IF you have an noradrenaline shoot you don't think "hm where can I aim that he won't die but just not stab or punch me to death?" no, he had no second. he turned and shot. And why would you feel awful towards someone hurting you? IF you do THAT would be messed up.  It's karma. He didn't have to push him, he wouldn't have gotten shot. But the way he backed off into the store to me even makes me think the other guy planned to kill the guy with the gun on purpose.

Also the dog thing: If there is a person hurting me on purpose (he could have hit his head on ground and also died on brain bleedings btw), why would I show a) mercy, b)remorse c) grief? But there is an innocent animal being and mabye you like dogs. Of course I would cry over a dog, a  cat, another random pet oO

@Sadie K yeah they're not thinking about it in the fact of him killing him, just the fact that yeah they themselves wouldn't care much of a random person dying so why should he? But that is not what is the case, if you defend yourself with use of a weapon. Your aim is to protect yourself not kill the offender, you'd feel awful if you did, he doesn't care so I guess his aim was to, with intent, kill that man

@Andrew Wertz It's way different if he's in court, as im sure you know basically everything that happens in court is just acting cause that's what it takes to not get charged with stuff

It's not a sign of anything on the suspect's part, it's you failing to understand human psychology.

It's not a sign of anything on the suspect's part, it's you failing to understand human psychology.

Okay but I know a lot of guys who are like that. We were all in the military though.

Okay but I know a lot of guys who are like that. We were all in the military though.

They don't cry for other people, they cry for themselves, and the things they know <b>they</b> will lose, like the dog.

They don't cry for other people, they cry for themselves, and the things they know *they* will lose, like the dog.

@Jack youre just a mad person because you have no puppers

@Jack youre just a mad person because you have no puppers

@Alpha Wolfgang your life doesn't matter to me if you call dogs "doggo"

@Alpha Wolfgang your life doesn't matter to me if you call dogs "doggo"

well, yeah, why would i care about someone that was attacking me? if you attack me your life doesnt matter to me. but dont touch the doggo.

@Dzidkapl you make a good point, tears would’ve been absurd.  We give you that.

Are you prepared to concede that an “oh well.” reaction is equally absurd, cause that was effectively his response to the news.

@michael boultinghouse Bit ironic considering your name.

@michael boultinghouse Bit ironic considering your name.

@FC Mania you really think it's coincidence? Really? Not that they deliberately picked them to point to an archetype and a pattern?

They both also flaunt their self delusions regarding their combat abilities. Kids in the picture, asinine reason to pull and shoot, convinced that the police support their actions from the absolute start, zero emotion when they find out the opinion of law enforcement is that they killed without justification...Eerily similar; even the initials are accounted for :D

bruh I care more about my dogs then other random strangers

bruh I care more about my dogs then other random strangers

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@FC Mania Nothing to do with color or where you are from. People can be evil irregardless of what "color" they are.

if they are playing the position that they felt their lives were in danger, (the only way that would justify what they did) they wont show emotion after finding out they killed the person that they "truly felt" was going to kill them, so in a way it makes sense in both cases for them not get emotional because they are playing the "it was him or me" obviously in both cases nothing was actually justified due to all of the evidence proving that neither were really in any danger,

@Sal Monella not much. My joke is that on this channel, there are coincidentally 2 cases where a middle age Michael shoots a black man to death.

Idk what you’re trying to argue.

They're so far gone mentally speaking that they've either completely absolved themselves of any guilt in their mind (and therefore do not have any sympathy for their victims) or they simply do not care at all. Yet when their dogs are brought into the equation, when their families are mentioned, it is when their personal lives are brought up that they show actual emotion. Because they're going to suffer the repercussions of their actions, and harm coming their way is a completely different story than harm going someone else's way.

@James Flaherty he chillin with the "dogz" in prison

@James Flaherty he chillin with the "dogz" in prison

Quite obviously, this is because dogs are better than humans. Hope this helps!

Quite obviously, this is because dogs are better than humans. Hope this helps!

@Lester Napoleon Green yep! I agree, you definitely don't have to cry.

@Lester Napoleon Green yep! I agree, you definitely don't have to cry.

@asdfomfglol that's accurate.  Everyone is different.

@asdfomfglol that's accurate.  Everyone is different.

@Sadie K yeah, but that takes time to set in.  This guy was still in a mental tailspin.  It would likely cause him to get emotional later on once it sinks in that he killed a father.  If it were me and I felt justified in my actions, why would I be compelled to weep?

Well, people generally have an emotional attachment to their pets.  This dude shot a guy who attacked him.  The killing was unjust, but still, you don't just immediately slam someone into the pavement in front of your kids without at least asking them what the hell they're saying to your girlfriend.

@asdfomfglol yeah, of course! There's a wide range of reactions that you could have.

@asdfomfglol yeah, of course! There's a wide range of reactions that you could have.

@Sadie K depends of your emotional predisposotion. I, for example, feel pretty numb in regards to a lot of things.

@Traktor well you aren’t very mature, nor empathetic.

@Traktor well you aren’t very mature, nor empathetic.

@FC Mania I live in Florida and I’m black. <br>All the stereotypes about Florida are about 70% true. Lol

@FC Mania I live in Florida and I’m black.
All the stereotypes about Florida are about 70% true. Lol

@Sadie K hey, he’s not getting heated Sadie.  Let the femme boy finish.

@Sadie K hey, he’s not getting heated Sadie.  Let the femme boy finish.

I’ll be honest, I’ve always connected to that.  Some people, like myself, just like dogs better than people.  People suck.  Dogs rule.

Sadie K i certainly wouldnt cry over killing a person who hurt me

Sadie K i certainly wouldnt cry over killing a person who hurt me

@Dzidkapl why would that be ridiculous, since he got choked up at the mention of his dogs?

@Dzidkapl why would that be ridiculous, since he got choked up at the mention of his dogs?

You must not be too well schooled. That "tearing up" in a natural visceral response. Your Dad must have taught you to keep yours so suppressed you wouldn't cry if a lost child was found. Poor you.

@Dzidkapl doesn’t seem interesting to me buddy. It doesn’t.

@Dzidkapl doesn’t seem interesting to me buddy. It doesn’t.

So point being… don’t trust someone name Michael.

So point being… don’t trust someone name Michael.

@Dzidkapl settle down lol never said I did

@Dzidkapl settle down lol never said I did

@Sadie K You don't know what's going through his head and how he shows emotions so don't pretend that you do.

@Sadie K You don't know what's going through his head and how he shows emotions so don't pretend that you do.

@Sadie K So what is even your point? What is so wrong about his behaviour? Why are you trying to disagree with me, yet you fail to do it?

@Dzidkapl haha I would, but I'm not saying that. Just that not knowing the person who died isn't really the point it's knowing that you killed a human being.

@Sadie K What do you expect him to do? Burst in tears?!

@Sadie K What do you expect him to do? Burst in tears?!

all these people are saying yeah well he didn’t know the guy, but like presumably it would be upsetting to know you killed a person even if you don’t know them.

He didn't know him, he didn't even see the face of that man very well. He looked sad though, but there's no reason for him to tear up, even if he wanted to.

Haha drejka will never see his dogs again infact he wont be seeing any dogs for many many years!!

Haha drejka will never see his dogs again infact he wont be seeing any dogs for many many years!!

The lesson from this channel is never live in Florida, nor get into an altercation with a middle-aged Michael, especially if you’re a person of color.


Yep he'd already won the altercation in stand off terms. Shooting a backing off assailant is pure murder. He wanted the guy to keep coming, disappointed he shot him anyway. Super lame. Disgusting. Best defense: diminished mental faculties. 21:19.


When you chose violence, you will get punished.. In this case it happened to both aggressors


He describes himself as an average, everyman guy with the same issues, just like most people. He neglects to mention the main difference between himself and most people, he was carrying a gun and thought it justified his actions. Most people don't carry guns.


It's called Steel Courage. <br>The question is would he have "checked for plaques" and engaged with the young lady if he was unarmed?

It's called Steel Courage.
The question is would he have "checked for plaques" and engaged with the young lady if he was unarmed?


This guy was too stupid to recognize that he was being investigated and was instead so excited to perform for the guys around him

Its because he can't imagine he is in the wrong. No crime was committed from his point of view.

@أبو ليلى to be a threat to him he'd have to be threatening him or coming at him. So no its not right but also no a little push and then not coming at him or trying to harm him any farther was not a reason to shoot him kids get pushed on the damn play ground. He wasn't coming at him he didn't harm him seriously he wasn't threatening him he didn't have a weapon. He had no reason to shoot him with his family right there.

@أبو ليلى he knocked him on his as* because he was arguing with his wife. The killer wasnt as smart as he thought.

The cop told him he saw video and the guy was not coming towards him. The dummy said he disagreed

@GeneralCurtis3LeMay what are u on about lol

@suprcrzy hahaha great response to the original comment

@ACombineSoldier The internet schooled you good son

@Terry C Yeah people can't get associate the difference between this and the real world and it's sad.

johnb johnb what does a rocket mean? please I’m genuinely curious

@Jonny V at some point he mentions that there's a camera on the handicap spot and the officers talk about the footage with him.

@Jorge Blanco Your advice should be repeated all over the Internet on a regular bases.  You are right, just a comment.

@ACombineSoldier its just a comment, dont be so scared lmao

ACombineSoldier lol you’re cringe for responding like that


Well it's all about degrees of escalation, being pushed entitles one to push back or reveal a concealed weapon at most.


Never go to the ground. Always ends bad for you on the ground . He was definitely going to get stomped out .


I love his speech. A true warrior, trained by nothing than the best, both of em, battlefield and CoD. He deserves a medal, no, the noble peace prize! Everyone should be a little cop like him. That's how we save america! God bless the USA, Donald Trump and the weapon industrie xD


The cops could have directly asked if he thought his life was in danger and he would have said "negative", then still he wouldn't admit that he was in the wrong.


19 minute ambulance response time to a gunshot victim is prettttty terrible. Nobody going to mention that?

19 minute ambulance response time to a gunshot victim is prettttty terrible. Nobody going to mention that?

@Ke -I- yep he uses "scare quotes " early on when referring to "people" (meaning black people)

@Ke -I- yep he uses "scare quotes " early on when referring to "people" (meaning black people)

LOL here in Brazil it takes about 1-3 hours

LOL here in Brazil it takes about 1-3 hours

definitely have to make sure the scene in safe so cops show up and do what they need to do and they get word out that medics can come in usually

definitely have to make sure the scene in safe so cops show up and do what they need to do and they get word out that medics can come in usually

@Robert P - Good point.  But I’m sure you know almost every commenter on here knows the whole story and everyone’s motivations and  intentions.  They wouldn’t be just talking out of their ass and slinging around judgements based on no evidence.  No way, not YouTube commenters.

@Lauren W It was a scene with an active shooter. Paramedic and first responders can’t enter an area during an active shooting until the scene is secured to prevent any more senseless deaths. This is basic common sense.

To also add: they have to secure the scene, make sure there are no any other suspects.

Do you know how many paramedics and first responders have been killed for tending to victims during an active shooter scene? Too many. This isn’t like tending to a heart attack victim or someone getting in a vehicular accident — there was an angry suspect who had shot someone during a hostile situation. They had to make sure the scene was clear with no other suspects or even any other victims in the vicinity that may have not been reported. They got there as soon as they could, point blank. Unless you are a first responder who has been in this situation, I don’t think it’s fair to bring up how close hospitals were during a situation like this. If anything, it’s disingenuous and makes it seem like you’re blaming the first responders more so than the shooter for doing this and causing an active shooter scene.

Way too many of you don’t bother looking into the protocols and go straight to blaming the people who spend their lives training and trying to help/save others because you think you could do better with 20/20 hindsight after the situation.

It really surprises me at the number of people in these comments who actually think ambulances can get there in mere minutes DURING AN ACTIVE SHOOTING, and that any minute passed where they don’t get the victim is somehow “deliberate” on their part for not getting there sooner.

Or that if you make mention of this, you’re “defending” the ignorant suspect. Do you all seriously lack basic critical thinking?

That is not how this works. That’s not how the protocol works. That’s not how they’re trained. REAL LIFE IS NOT LIKE THE MOVIES. They don’t get to just rush on the scene and everything magically be okay.

The emergency services knew it was an active shooting, but no paramedic — I repeat, NO PARAMEDIC — can enter the scene until it is safe. You all understand that, right?

When an active shooting is going on, they have to make sure the scene is secure and suspects apprehended before they can tend to the victim. That is protocol, no matter what your feelings are on the situation. It’s done that way so there isn’t anymore senseless deaths (and there have been towards paramedics who arrived on an active shooting scene that has also been killed by the suspect because they were trying to tend to the victim — THAT is what they want to prevent: more senseless deaths).

Anyone saying this is normal for rural areas- this is clearwater Florida, not even close to rural. This is a big city, known for beaches and for being the headquarters of scientology. Theres a hospital right down the road from where this happened. My guess is that it took so long because of a combination of horrible traffic (it can easily take 10-20 minutes to drive right down the road in some parts of pinellas county) and a lesser priority for being in a "bad part of town". Clearwater has its shining facades for tourists but there are a lot of poor and poorly maintained areas. Cops like to take their time when it comes to a case likely involving poor people or addicts.

wow, people get mad for 19 minutes while i wait for them minimum 90 minutes in my world 3rd country..

wow, people get mad for 19 minutes while i wait for them minimum 90 minutes in my world 3rd country..

It's Clearwater. Fl. That's pretty usual.

It's Clearwater. Fl. That's pretty usual.

@Anna Oddi You said you HEAR them more than you see them, so how is that they don't have sirens on? And most often they turn them off on the way to the hospital, even with a passenger on board.

@Anna Oddi You said you HEAR them more than you see them, so how is that they don't have sirens on? And most often they turn them off on the way to the hospital, even with a passenger on board.

@Umatsu Obossa I meant they don't have sirens on, so they may be just heading back to the office, but more often than not, they do go to emergencies. Sorry to confuse you.

@Umatsu Obossa I meant they don't have sirens on, so they may be just heading back to the office, but more often than not, they do go to emergencies. Sorry to confuse you.

@Anna Oddi Having their siren on means they're headed to a call, not "on the prowl"

@Anna Oddi Having their siren on means they're headed to a call, not "on the prowl"

@Umatsu Obossa Here near Brisbane, it's actually quite common to see an ambulance on the prowl heading towards Ipswich, and in a few others near Brisbane. I more often hear them than see them.

@Umatsu Obossa Here near Brisbane, it's actually quite common to see an ambulance on the prowl heading towards Ipswich, and in a few others near Brisbane. I more often hear them than see them.

this is exactly what i was thinking why the hell did it take 19 minutes bruh

this is exactly what i was thinking why the hell did it take 19 minutes bruh

@Michael Julian my question to you is this? What would be the motivation for the paramedics to take their time? I guess I simply don't see the point. Is this comment section meant to say it's because he was black? I don't think they mention that on the calls do they? If so that's unfortunate and unforgivable imo

When seconds count, help is just 20 minutes away.

When seconds count, help is just 20 minutes away.

@Robert P I am just spoiled on Phoenix response time, which is a few minutes.  And also I am like "What could have prevented this?"  about Marquis death.  I assume everyone was doing their best. Everyone but the killer.

@Robert P I am just spoiled on Phoenix response time, which is a few minutes.  And also I am like "What could have prevented this?"  about Marquis death.  I assume everyone was doing their best. Everyone but the killer.

I feel like that's normal because police have to respond and declare the area safe for medical personnel before they can arrive on scene

I feel like that's normal because police have to respond and declare the area safe for medical personnel before they can arrive on scene

Yeah he might have not died if they would have shown up within a decent amount of time . Sad

Yeah he might have not died if they would have shown up within a decent amount of time . Sad

He got shot through the heart man I don’t know if any better response time would have made a difference.

He got shot through the heart man I don’t know if any better response time would have made a difference.

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA First rule of ALS... "Scene Safety"

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA First rule of ALS... "Scene Safety"

Making your way through Clearwater is difficult. The Prosecutor indicated that the bullet pierced his Heart; even if the Rig had arrived in 2- minutes, the likelihood of him surviving is about. 0%.

Making your way through Clearwater is difficult. The Prosecutor indicated that the bullet pierced his Heart; even if the Rig had arrived in 2- minutes, the likelihood of him surviving is about. 0%.

@J that’s why in my liberal socialist utopia the ambulances show up within two seconds of gunfire.

@J that’s why in my liberal socialist utopia the ambulances show up within two seconds of gunfire.

They would have just collected the corpse earlier in this case. With the projectile having gone through lungs and the heart, he might have died just mere seconds after getting shot.

They would have just collected the corpse earlier in this case. With the projectile having gone through lungs and the heart, he might have died just mere seconds after getting shot.

@Matt Pike they park ambulances everywhere. Look closely next time you drive around you might think they are napping but their job is to be called upon in hotspots in town

@Matt Pike they park ambulances everywhere. Look closely next time you drive around you might think they are napping but their job is to be called upon in hotspots in town

@Joshua Barker emtb here.  Don't you think he would have probably died anyway, even if the ambulance had been there when it happened?  I can't say I've ever heard of anyone surviving a shot through both lungs and the heart.

@Joshua Barker emtb here.  Don't you think he would have probably died anyway, even if the ambulance had been there when it happened?  I can't say I've ever heard of anyone surviving a shot through both lungs and the heart.

@Two meals a day. Based on the description of the injuries, I can't see how he wouldn't have bled out, even if the paramedics could have gotten him right away.  Both lungs and the heart.  You don't come back from that kind of trauma unless he could have gotten to a level one or two trauma center within a few minutes, I would guess.

@mufason That's my guess.  The prosecutor later says it was "the perfect shot" to kill the man.  Through both lungs and the heart.  I don't think he would have survived if he'd been shot like that inside a trauma center

@mufason That's my guess.  The prosecutor later says it was "the perfect shot" to kill the man.  Through both lungs and the heart.  I don't think he would have survived if he'd been shot like that inside a trauma center

@CreamPuff Yeah, not if your migraine had somehow been the result of a violent crime with no law enforcement on scene, you wouldn't

@CreamPuff Yeah, not if your migraine had somehow been the result of a violent crime with no law enforcement on scene, you wouldn't

@Jason Blum And number 3. (imo as a basic EMT, not a paramedic) given that this guy was shot through both lungs and the [presumably] base of his heart, he probably wouldn't have survived even if he had gone directly into an ambulance.  Is that a pretty fair assumption?

Yeah I was thinking that too.  It is Florida though.  This wasn't the only "Florida man" causing problems that day, I guarantee.

Yeah I was thinking that too.  It is Florida though.  This wasn't the only "Florida man" causing problems that day, I guarantee.

To be fair, I think a good amount of that time had to be spent waiting on the police. Ambulances can't just waltz on in to help someone who got shot, the police need to make sure that there's no chance anyone else gets shot.

Now should it have taken 19 minutes from the call to the ambulance to clearing the scene to then go help the guy? Probably not, it shouldn't really take 19 minutes to confirm that the "threat" only fired in "self defense" thus the scene is safe.

@fox23vaj That is not how that works at all but you can assume that

@fox23vaj That is not how that works at all but you can assume that

@Umatsu Obossa , the ambulances aren't stationed by the hospital. EMS stages all over the county to give as much even coverage as possible. Possibly a lot of other things were going on that day.

@Umatsu Obossa , the ambulances aren't stationed by the hospital. EMS stages all over the county to give as much even coverage as possible. Possibly a lot of other things were going on that day.

@Matt Pike , that's pretty weird because the average response time in that county is 4-6 minutes. Or so they boast.

@Matt Pike , that's pretty weird because the average response time in that county is 4-6 minutes. Or so they boast.

You should always go to the hospital yourself unless you have no choice but to wait for the ambulance. Emts rarely deal with extreme emergencies. Some (pointless) procedures/panic/lack of experience slows them down.

You should always go to the hospital yourself unless you have no choice but to wait for the ambulance. Emts rarely deal with extreme emergencies. Some (pointless) procedures/panic/lack of experience slows them down.

@justanon Probably the fact that someone had a gun, he just got shot in the chest, it was their altercation, and the bystander effect. To be honest I think they're both stupid. Guy probably should've minded his own business but they also parked illegally. He also blind sided the guy but he was also screaming at the guys girlfriend. The other guy pushed drew a gun (fine) but then shot a man backing up who was no longer a threat. Pretty bad decisions from everyone

Yes! And this happened at the fucking parking lot, there were people with cars, somebody could've brought him to hospital. This whole situation seems so stupid. Almost like everyone around just accepted the fact that this man is going to die.

But yeah, I wasn't there, so I guess (hope) there is a logical explanation.

@May Sanchez Yeah, an ambulance can't teleport they have to get through traffic depending on the hospital location

@May Sanchez Yeah, an ambulance can't teleport they have to get through traffic depending on the hospital location

Lol good to know if I get shot I need to hold on for bout 20 minutes before medical get there

Lol good to know if I get shot I need to hold on for bout 20 minutes before medical get there

Is that bad? Emergency response is so bad in my area that I've had the police call me back an hour later when I tried to report an accident I was in and possible injuries. All parties took care of it ourselves and went about our business before 911 answerwd.....

Welcome to the ghetto where people abuse emergency medical care and call am ambulance for their 3 day abdominal pain and stubbed toe, just to get a ride across town to the hospital and then leave ama because they feel better. Tying up resources for people that need it.

@Michael Julian <br>Shooting incidents where shooter is still around?

@Michael Julian
Shooting incidents where shooter is still around?

@Metal Tao Where are you that ambulances drive around on patrol? Probably not in america I'm guessing lol

@Metal Tao Where are you that ambulances drive around on patrol? Probably not in america I'm guessing lol

Well, that's what happens when capitalism runs your healthcare.

Well, that's what happens when capitalism runs your healthcare.

One good thing about state healthcare is that if you are dying someone won’t get their Christmas bonus when the paramedics fail to make their target response time of 3 minutes.

One good thing about state healthcare is that if you are dying someone won’t get their Christmas bonus when the paramedics fail to make their target response time of 3 minutes.

It's way way too much time
When you have 5 minutes or less
To bleed  out

It's way way too much time
When you have 5 minutes or less
To bleed  out

@Matt Pike it’s pinellas county FL there are almost 1 million people who live there

@Matt Pike it’s pinellas county FL there are almost 1 million people who live there

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA thats a problem in my opinion, in my country the abulance whould be there before police (obv if there uis a gang or smthng like that then they arent going in you know)

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA thats a problem in my opinion, in my country the abulance whould be there before police (obv if there uis a gang or smthng like that then they arent going in you know)

not rally doe thats kinda fast. depends on where it is aswell<br>. wait the ambulance costs houndreds of dollars? oh ye aits super slow now when i think bout it

not rally doe thats kinda fast. depends on where it is aswell
. wait the ambulance costs houndreds of dollars? oh ye aits super slow now when i think bout it

@Michael Julian Care wasn't bad and the people were extremely professional. Sounded like I was complaining but it was in response to what Seth said. Ambulances and police can't just appear because you need them to is what I was getting at

@Michael Julian Care wasn't bad and the people were extremely professional. Sounded like I was complaining but it was in response to what Seth said. Ambulances and police can't just appear because you need them to is what I was getting at

@Metal Tao I don’t think ambulances patrol same goes for fire trucks and such. Police are usually first on the scene because they patrol and clear the scene for EMT and such

@Metal Tao I don’t think ambulances patrol same goes for fire trucks and such. Police are usually first on the scene because they patrol and clear the scene for EMT and such

@Ben Hardcastle my department receives less than one half of one percent of property tax revenues. By comparison, the school system takes 70% and we still have a fantastic budget. If anyone says they need to raise taxes to pay for good care they are lying.

@Common Sense Sports It's a Union Fire Department that runs EMS in Nashville. You get a ride to the hospital and that's about it. I work for a nearby department that is, in my opinion the best care you can get in the State.

@Common Sense Sports It's a Union Fire Department that runs EMS in Nashville. You get a ride to the hospital and that's about it. I work for a nearby department that is, in my opinion the best care you can get in the State.

@Jason Blum a big city only has 5-8? My small city has that lol

@Jason Blum a big city only has 5-8? My small city has that lol

Yeah, I was in a car wreck in Nashville and it took about 30 minutes for a response. Not a gun shot but still, too many people and not enough help or funding

Yeah, I was in a car wreck in Nashville and it took about 30 minutes for a response. Not a gun shot but still, too many people and not enough help or funding

Well we’ll increase ur tax to 50% to fund the ambulance department

Well we’ll increase ur tax to 50% to fund the ambulance department

@Quynh Le You may think I am joking, but we have a special ambulance just for those calls. It has an extra wide stretcher and a winch to pull it into the truck. Google "Bariatric Ambulance"

@Quynh Le You may think I am joking, but we have a special ambulance just for those calls. It has an extra wide stretcher and a winch to pull it into the truck. Google "Bariatric Ambulance"

@Dude, smell my helmet. in my 25 year career? Hundreds. I am now in an area where they are rare, however and am happy with that.

@Dude, smell my helmet. in my 25 year career? Hundreds. I am now in an area where they are rare, however and am happy with that.

@Althea McNabb My county is 545 square miles, but we are very well funded.

@Althea McNabb My county is 545 square miles, but we are very well funded.

This being America they were probably preoccupied with getting a 600 pound lady off her toilet.

This being America they were probably preoccupied with getting a 600 pound lady off her toilet.

@Michael Julian How many shootings  have you responded to?

@Michael Julian How many shootings  have you responded to?

@Seth Dixon the paramedics have to stage until the police clear the scene my guy

@Seth Dixon the paramedics have to stage until the police clear the scene my guy

Paramedics had to stage until the police cleared the scene

Paramedics had to stage until the police cleared the scene

especially since you have to pay for it. Terrible medical system in the US

especially since you have to pay for it. Terrible medical system in the US

I had to call an ambulance the other day for a life threatening situation, the estimated time was 40 minutes and the hospital was only 2 minute drive away. They were just exceptionally busy that day

I had to call an ambulance the other day for a life threatening situation, the estimated time was 40 minutes and the hospital was only 2 minute drive away. They were just exceptionally busy that day

@Chris Uchiha17 most of them are too young to understand tho,

@Chris Uchiha17 most of them are too young to understand tho,

Police departments are struggling right now. They are underfunded and understaffed.

Police departments are struggling right now. They are underfunded and understaffed.

@Metal Tao ambulances do not go on "patrol" when you see them driving without their lights on it doesn't mean they're patrolling around like a cop would.

@Metal Tao ambulances do not go on "patrol" when you see them driving without their lights on it doesn't mean they're patrolling around like a cop would.

I agree. But it be like that sometimes for some reasons.

I agree. But it be like that sometimes for some reasons.

@Seth Dixon That's a very large leap in logic.... What does the ambulance response time have to do with the shooter? If anything the shooter would be way better off if the response time was faster and the guy lived because of it.

@Seth Dixon That's a very large leap in logic.... What does the ambulance response time have to do with the shooter? If anything the shooter would be way better off if the response time was faster and the guy lived because of it.

@Angel Face but at least flint (genesee county) has paramedic deputies which is pretty badass

@Angel Face but at least flint (genesee county) has paramedic deputies which is pretty badass

@Jason Blum thank you for the information.

@Jason Blum thank you for the information.

@Michael Julian I worked in a larger city that also covered county (rural) and it’s taken me an hour to respond before. 19 minutes isn’t unheard of but obviously not the norm or ideal. I would imagine if transport medic wasn’t on scene at least fire or RRV would be there, and who knows how long it took PD to clear the scene

@Umatsu Obossa it seemed to be about the abysmal time of the response in the situation of a gunshot victim. You attempting to imply that the commentor was making a stance that the ambulance responders had alterior motives is baseless and asinine.

@Umatsu Obossa it seemed to be about the abysmal time of the response in the situation of a gunshot victim. You attempting to imply that the commentor was making a stance that the ambulance responders had alterior motives is baseless and asinine.

@Umatsu Obossa So what is if (in your mind) that they are trying to imply then?

@Umatsu Obossa So what is if (in your mind) that they are trying to imply then?

@Robert P Because the ambulance wouldnt have been at the hospital

@Robert P Because the ambulance wouldnt have been at the hospital

@Kanye Breast People were REALLY implying it

@Kanye Breast People were REALLY implying it

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA That's also correct. In Britain,ambulances cannot attend stabbing or shooting incidents unless police are already on scene, and have declared it safe.

@Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA That's also correct. In Britain,ambulances cannot attend stabbing or shooting incidents unless police are already on scene, and have declared it safe.

@Umatsu Obossa Not one person said the ambulances took a long time deliberately

@Umatsu Obossa Not one person said the ambulances took a long time deliberately

@Metal Tao Yeah. In Britian here the ambulances are always on road. Not dispatched from the hospital. Theres ambulances all over the road,so there hopefully should be at least one available in the local area who can attend in less than 19 mins.

@Metal Tao Yeah. In Britian here the ambulances are always on road. Not dispatched from the hospital. Theres ambulances all over the road,so there hopefully should be at least one available in the local area who can attend in less than 19 mins.

@WatchMe Noobing better than literally all the other countries if you wanna live, and I'm from the uk

@WatchMe Noobing better than literally all the other countries if you wanna live, and I'm from the uk

@Umatsu Obossa Ambulances don't  come from hospitals, they have depots all over the place where they leave from.

@Umatsu Obossa Ambulances don't  come from hospitals, they have depots all over the place where they leave from.

I was wondering if they knew he was black. Is that paranoid? Lol

I was wondering if they knew he was black. Is that paranoid? Lol

@Seattle Washington seems like you agree that a 19 minute response time is terrible. Thanks for providing some insight as to why it might take so long. Doesn’t make it any less sucky for the guy bleeding out for twenty minutes.

@Seattle Washington seems like you agree that a 19 minute response time is terrible. Thanks for providing some insight as to why it might take so long. Doesn’t make it any less sucky for the guy bleeding out for twenty minutes.

Some of you guys haven’t worked a day as a first responder and it really shows. Sometimes we have only have 11 paramedics and 4 Medic One aid cars in the entire COUNTY. Sometimes, units that are available are on the other side of the county. So yes, sometimes it takes units a while to arrive. If you want to whine and complain about the response time, go ahead and apply to be a first responder, God knows we are understaffed and need more people. All the public does is whine and complain, without even knowing what actually goes on behind the scene.

@Matt Pike my parents live pretty far out in the country. It's a good 20 minute response for ambulances out there. They've seen several car wrecks near their house and it always takes a while to respond.

@Matt Pike my parents live pretty far out in the country. It's a good 20 minute response for ambulances out there. They've seen several car wrecks near their house and it always takes a while to respond.

Depends where it’s at. It’s slower in rural areas most times, volunteer firefighters are usually first to the scene in my area.

Depends where it’s at. It’s slower in rural areas most times, volunteer firefighters are usually first to the scene in my area.

THANK YOU I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THIS!!!  i was like wait a damn minute

THANK YOU I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THIS!!!  i was like wait a damn minute

In my state as a tow truck driver if I do not get to a scene of an accident within 15 minutes I go to jail I get a $5,000 fine and my company gets a $50,000 fine

In my state as a tow truck driver if I do not get to a scene of an accident within 15 minutes I go to jail I get a $5,000 fine and my company gets a $50,000 fine

@Source everybody reading into my comment a little too deeply, geez. My point was simply, when you’re lying on the ground bleeding out from a gunshot 19 minutes is an agonizingly long time to wait. I’m not suggesting the ambulance stopped for donuts.

@Seth Dixon you should do more research, we dont sympathize with the murderer, were just taking a point someone made and making sure it makes sense before we blindly get behind it like ants. 19 minutes in the city is normal, and I don't doubt they were going as fast as they could while also avoiding arriving before the police do, all they are told is that someone was shot and only EMT Officers of private communities are armed.

If the victim had been a wall street krony the time would have improved.

If the victim had been a wall street krony the time would have improved.

@Zei33 it takes longer to get to rural areas, they can just die? They have a limited number of ambulances, any number of which could be out on a call that very moment. You CANNOT make sure there's an ambulances just a few minutes from everywhere at all times, that's ridiculous. The INSTANT one was responding to this, that made the area it used to be in, no longer have one near it either.

@Umatsu Obossa deliberately slow? No. I would say the comments are pointing out that ambulances should be far more available and ready to deal with problems in any area. Rural areas excepted of course.

@Umatsu Obossa deliberately slow? No. I would say the comments are pointing out that ambulances should be far more available and ready to deal with problems in any area. Rural areas excepted of course.

I said the same thing, how?? But when a cat is fractured it takes 3 min to respond, sad 😞.

I said the same thing, how?? But when a cat is fractured it takes 3 min to respond, sad 😞.

@Lewis Lister Boo man. You get special treatment for unresponsive and not breathing. I appreciate where you're coming from; UK healthcare means if someone is less well than you, guess who gets the ambulance first? This 2 hrs plus thing isn't an accurate account of the whole UK ambulance service but is rooted in some truth I'll give you that.

@Robert P Does beg the question though surely? Guy runs in wounded from a gunshot. You'd hope the staff kicked up enough to suggest the ambulance was needed urgently. Otherwise, if the paramedics are certain this guy is toast why bother at all? Then a follow up question: do USA districts have their own legislation over 'acceptable response times'? Anyway, 19 minutes is naff in a life threatening situation (could be anything, 19 minutes is plenty of time to die, do you think people are just hanging around thinking 'yeah, I've got 20 minutes in me no problem' then strike up a conversation about the weather?

Do the family get a medical bill after the husband dies? I mean how does it work in Murica if you get shot and maybe you don't have any insurance?

Do the family get a medical bill after the husband dies? I mean how does it work in Murica if you get shot and maybe you don't have any insurance?

Well don’t knock people on the ground . Yu might get shot ** shocking **

Well don’t knock people on the ground . Yu might get shot ** shocking **

@Matt Pike I was in Colorado. It's not different here. In rural routes they try to make sure they have coverage for a 10 minute response time, but this wasn't rural. The only logical reason for that long of a response is if the scene was judged to be unsafe, which it often is with gunshots, but the police should also have a short response time to clear the scene.

@Caleb McIntosh well in a place like Kansas city, you'd never make it in 6 minutes. Its just too spread out. Even in the small town I live in, you might be waiting for 10 minutes

@Caleb McIntosh well in a place like Kansas city, you'd never make it in 6 minutes. Its just too spread out. Even in the small town I live in, you might be waiting for 10 minutes

@Matt Pike I've been an EMT in a medium sized city, we're stationed so that we have coverage over the city so that one of our ambulances is never more than six minutes away from any location in the city. A nineteen minute response time is abysmal.

@Matt Pike I've been an EMT in a medium sized city, we're stationed so that we have coverage over the city so that one of our ambulances is never more than six minutes away from any location in the city. A nineteen minute response time is abysmal.

If that had been the uk it would have been 2 hours +. Quite seriously

If that had been the uk it would have been 2 hours +. Quite seriously

For example I live only 3-4 kilometers of a hospital but it would already take 5 minutes to get here plus probably +-1 min from the end of the call  to actually leave the hospital. So if the hospital or fire station is like 10-20 kilometers away a 19 minute response is reasonable. 19 minute. drive isn't long but when you need an ambulance it will feel very long.

The magic words are “motorcycle head injury” believe me...... I know

The magic words are “motorcycle head injury” believe me...... I know

Ambulances often avoid ghettos and take their sweet ass time because ghettos suck

Ambulances often avoid ghettos and take their sweet ass time because ghettos suck

@Umatsu Obossa  nobody has implied that the ambulance got there slowly on purpose. That’s so stupid.

@Umatsu Obossa  nobody has implied that the ambulance got there slowly on purpose. That’s so stupid.

19 minutes and it costed almost 1000 dollars for it just to show up

19 minutes and it costed almost 1000 dollars for it just to show up

in Iraq we call the ambulance three days before the emergency so they can arrive 2 days after, lol

in Iraq we call the ambulance three days before the emergency so they can arrive 2 days after, lol

Yeah it does suck. By the injuries sustained there’s not a whole lot they could have done when they got there anyways. If it hit his lung, he’s gonna need a chest tube immediately and that’s not something paramedics can do unfortunately. To be totally honest though many southern states’ EMS is understaffed. Or at least from my experience. I work in emergency medicine in New Orleans.

@ClockzTickin Exactly, I dunno why everyone acting like there's an ambulance on every block. I mean how often do you see an ambulance that isn't actively going to a scene or back to the hospital with sirens blaring? You almost never see them, so I dunno why people expect they should drop out of the sky when you need one.

@Umatsu Obossa - There is a lot of traffic there too. I know I have driven in it a million times.

@Umatsu Obossa - There is a lot of traffic there too. I know I have driven in it a million times.

19 minutes is a really long time.. I live 15 minutes from any major town in rural louisiana and my dad had a brain hemorrhage and the ambulance was there in about 5 to 8 minutes. He ended up dying. But I was impressed with how fast they arrived.

19 minutes is a really long time.. I live 15 minutes from any major town in rural louisiana and my dad had a brain hemorrhage and the ambulance was there in about 5 to 8 minutes. He ended up dying. But I was impressed with how fast they arrived.

They always do that where I’m from if they know wherever the bullet hit , head, stomach any main arteries they know 9 times out of ten they won’t make it so they take their time until they’ve passed then pronounce the deceased at the hospital. Sad

They always do that where I’m from if they know wherever the bullet hit , head, stomach any main arteries they know 9 times out of ten they won’t make it so they take their time until they’ve passed then pronounce the deceased at the hospital. Sad

@Riff Raff I said 'in this entire case' I wasn't even referring to the EMS. But thanks for the info that's good to know tbh

@Riff Raff I said 'in this entire case' I wasn't even referring to the EMS. But thanks for the info that's good to know tbh

in the uk, a much smaller place than the usa, an ambulance can take hours

in the uk, a much smaller place than the usa, an ambulance can take hours

Right?? Usually the victim is to the hospital and in the OR by 19 minutes!

Right?? Usually the victim is to the hospital and in the OR by 19 minutes!

Seth Dixon said by a guy who either lives in a big city....and/or has zero idea regarding EMS....

Seth Dixon said by a guy who either lives in a big city....and/or has zero idea regarding EMS....

Welcome to America. If my memory is correct, the average ambulance response time in America is about thirteen minutes. I'm probably not remembering right, but I do know that the ambulance response time in America isn't very good.

Welcome to America. If my memory is correct, the average ambulance response time in America is about thirteen minutes. I'm probably not remembering right, but I do know that the ambulance response time in America isn't very good.

@Robert P -  Ambulance's don't respond from Hospitals, they are generally private companies and 99.9% of the time they are coming from some point in a zone that they drive around between calls or their Companies location. <br>        The average EMS response time in the U.S. is 7 minutes in the Cities and Suburbs to 14 minutes in the more rural parts of the Country, so 19 minutes is definitely NOT a very good response.

@Robert P -  Ambulance's don't respond from Hospitals, they are generally private companies and 99.9% of the time they are coming from some point in a zone that they drive around between calls or their Companies location.
        The average EMS response time in the U.S. is 7 minutes in the Cities and Suburbs to 14 minutes in the more rural parts of the Country, so 19 minutes is definitely NOT a very good response.

Clearwater has unbelievable traffic. Some cases if an ambulance pulls up behind you there is literally nowhere to move out of the way.

Clearwater has unbelievable traffic. Some cases if an ambulance pulls up behind you there is literally nowhere to move out of the way.

I thought I misunderstood that but thank you for clarifying

I thought I misunderstood that but thank you for clarifying

I'm an EMT. The town I grew up in was about 25 minutes from the nearest hospital. Not to mention, the closest ambulance was about 10-15 minutes away from the furthest part of their district. Sometimes we also run into problems when we are taking someone to the hospital while another call comes out. I agree 19 minutes is a long response time, but unfortunately sometimes it happens. That doesn't make it right, I'm just explaining some possible reasons for the 19 -minute response time.

@Frank Marano I understand.  Its just that I've been in situations where we called 911 (no shooting tho coz this is Europe) and the ambulance always arrived within 5 to 7 min max.<br>It just blows my mind every time that this type of exchange can actually result in a death. Simply bc people are allowed to carry a gun. Where I live this may have been a nasty verbal argument and both parties would leave the place pissed maybe... but alive.

@Frank Marano I understand.  Its just that I've been in situations where we called 911 (no shooting tho coz this is Europe) and the ambulance always arrived within 5 to 7 min max.
It just blows my mind every time that this type of exchange can actually result in a death. Simply bc people are allowed to carry a gun. Where I live this may have been a nasty verbal argument and both parties would leave the place pissed maybe... but alive.

@Frank Marano thats not up to anyone to determine! First responders are the only ones who can estimate the type and extent of victim's injuries. 20 min arrival time in a shooting like this ensures pretty much that our guy bled to death but thats easy to say with hindsight.

911 dispatcher here:

Ambulances don't always come from the hospital. In many cases they come from their own private ems/fire station, and are sent by the county/city dispatchers. It's possible that the ambulance in that area was already on another call or transporting, and usually the ems supervisor or dispatch would organize the next closest, or tell the closest that's on a call to break off if they can and head that way. That said, in my area, ambulances won't proceed into any violent calls unless the scene is secure by officers, and that's also a possibility here. There's really no saying exactly what went on with response time without the call report.

in my area thats pretty good. we only have one ambulance and probably 120 square miles of county lol

in my area thats pretty good. we only have one ambulance and probably 120 square miles of county lol

the average response time is around 8-9 minutes, so this response time seemed low , but about 90 percent of all the response times are below about 15 minutes....which means 10 percent of the time they are longer than 15 minutes.

the average response time is around 8-9 minutes, so this response time seemed low , but about 90 percent of all the response times are below about 15 minutes....which means 10 percent of the time they are longer than 15 minutes.

Could it be possible that the ambulance arrived 19 minutes immediately after the shooting or they arrived 19 minutes after 911 was called

Could it be possible that the ambulance arrived 19 minutes immediately after the shooting or they arrived 19 minutes after 911 was called

@Metal Tao No, in Florida ambulance crews stay at their station until they get called out.

@Metal Tao No, in Florida ambulance crews stay at their station until they get called out.

@Michael Julian You live in a small area than.  It takes over 20 to get to a local hospital.  Less all the traffic in front of every single light.  Here the ambulances are also at the Fire Departments.

@Michael Julian You live in a small area than.  It takes over 20 to get to a local hospital.  Less all the traffic in front of every single light.  Here the ambulances are also at the Fire Departments.

@Jason Blum Amen and thank you for doing your job.

@Jason Blum Amen and thank you for doing your job.

@NSA I call BS.  It replies like this that is hurting our nation now.  Ambulances are not hanging out on every damn corner.  Speaking of knowing many drivers.

@NSA I call BS.  It replies like this that is hurting our nation now.  Ambulances are not hanging out on every damn corner.  Speaking of knowing many drivers.

Imagine how bad if they were already at another site helping someone else.

Imagine how bad if they were already at another site helping someone else.

Seth Dixon it is in a bad part of town is why so long in my opinion

Seth Dixon it is in a bad part of town is why so long in my opinion

GG Allyn ems is not notified about the victims race when they are dispatched. The response time would not have been shorter if the guy was white

GG Allyn ems is not notified about the victims race when they are dispatched. The response time would not have been shorter if the guy was white

When I called 911 for my mother when she stopped breathing, the ambulance took 30 minutes to get there. It's actually scary.

When I called 911 for my mother when she stopped breathing, the ambulance took 30 minutes to get there. It's actually scary.

The racism in this entire case makes my blood run cold

The racism in this entire case makes my blood run cold

I've had an ambulance come quicker for a severe migraine

I've had an ambulance come quicker for a severe migraine

If it were my friend shot I'd get him into the car and make it to the hospital before the AmberLance is even dispatched. But in some communities people just stand around watching and doing nothing but wait for someone else to help. Like David Dorn. Or that dude the woman ran over, spat on, and slammed the cars back bumper over his head. While everyone just watched.

Came here to comment this. Unreal...19 minutes?!

Came here to comment this. Unreal...19 minutes?!

Robert P in my city the ambulances come from a 3rd party company, not from the hospital itself. That being said, if you don’t how far away the ambulance is from the scene, you can’t really assume the response time.

Robert P in my city the ambulances come from a 3rd party company, not from the hospital itself. That being said, if you don’t how far away the ambulance is from the scene, you can’t really assume the response time.

A big honour is being allowed to contribute to send a person to another world. > @Chris Uchiha17

A big honour is being allowed to contribute to send a person to another world. > @Chris Uchiha17

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Scene safety is the first thing ems thinks about when entering a dangerous situation. The police must secure the scene to make sure the threat is clear before ems moves in.

Scene safety is the first thing ems thinks about when entering a dangerous situation. The police must secure the scene to make sure the threat is clear before ems moves in.

An ambulance isn’t always just around the corner of any emergency. <br>I have a few paramedic friends who’ve shared their regrets that they were the closest unit to a situation but, were still too far away to get there in time enough to save the person in need.

An ambulance isn’t always just around the corner of any emergency.
I have a few paramedic friends who’ve shared their regrets that they were the closest unit to a situation but, were still too far away to get there in time enough to save the person in need.

They had to stage for law enforcement to clear the scene then they could come in. That time is accounted in that.

They had to stage for law enforcement to clear the scene then they could come in. That time is accounted in that.

As a paramedic, that's the first thing I noticed. Our average response time is less than 7 minutes and I can't think of any calls that required 19, even in rural areas.

As a paramedic, that's the first thing I noticed. Our average response time is less than 7 minutes and I can't think of any calls that required 19, even in rural areas.

@Jason Blum Good to have a clear, reasoned, comment with non emotional assumptions, and contrived expertise and knowledge. Thanks.

@Jason Blum Good to have a clear, reasoned, comment with non emotional assumptions, and contrived expertise and knowledge. Thanks.

I'm a paramedic supervisor with 25 years' experience.
A couple of things to consider (especially number 2):

1. There are some rural areas where it routinely takes 15 or 20 minutes to get an ambulance. I have no idea where this event occurred, but even in the city where I work, it can sometimes take fifteen minutes. We have approximately 5 to 8 ambulances, covering a city of 200,000 people. One patient can tie up an ambulance for an hour (extricating the patient, transport, cleaning, hand-off report, etc). All it takes is a single accident involving multiple patients, to tie up all of our ambulances.

2. (Most importantly) On a violent call, we don't enter the scene until it's been declared safe by law enforcement. So it's common-practice to "stage" several blocks away from the patient, until we are cleared to go in. This is entirely dependent upon law enforcement, but it's not uncommon for us to find ourselves staging for fifteen or twenty minutes.... or even up to an hour, in some cases.

The hospital is like 5 minutes north up Fort Harrison Rd

The hospital is like 5 minutes north up Fort Harrison Rd

Ambulances don’t rush into a shooting incident before police...they are not armed

Ambulances don’t rush into a shooting incident before police...they are not armed

Without knowing how far the hospital is away how can you start forming an opinion about the response time?

Without knowing how far the hospital is away how can you start forming an opinion about the response time?

@Metal Tao Well either way, the comments seem to mean to imply tge ambulance was deliberately slow in getting there, and I'm quite sure that's not the case.

@Metal Tao Well either way, the comments seem to mean to imply tge ambulance was deliberately slow in getting there, and I'm quite sure that's not the case.

@Umatsu Obossa They are usually on patrol, the possibility is that they were preoccupied or this happened when ambulances were both equally far away from the incident. Meaning that they just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time

@Umatsu Obossa They are usually on patrol, the possibility is that they were preoccupied or this happened when ambulances were both equally far away from the incident. Meaning that they just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time

Chances are the hospital was 19 minutes away. That seems close when you don't need a paramedic, but far when you do. They can speed, but generally not by all that much.

Chances are the hospital was 19 minutes away. That seems close when you don't need a paramedic, but far when you do. They can speed, but generally not by all that much.

Where was it? If it's a bigger city i could understand but if it was a small town then yeah, it's bullshit.

Where was it? If it's a bigger city i could understand but if it was a small town then yeah, it's bullshit.

I was actually thinking about that shitty ass response he may have been able to been saved. I feel horrible for those kids who saw their father die in front of em.

I was actually thinking about that shitty ass response he may have been able to been saved. I feel horrible for those kids who saw their father die in front of em.


He wants as much sympathy as possible with that hand BS. You can really tell he has never been in a fight because being pushed down wouldn't leave you sore all over unless it's down some stairs or something


How is it they failed to charge the man right off when the one of the first things he says is a lie. He claims that he was hit from behind. Nowhere was he touched from behind. Even though she threw his firearm he paused as the man turned to walk away from him. You cannot shoot somebody who's retreating from you. That's murder.<br>First thing he did was assumed Authority he didn't have by accosting the female, and taking up an aggressive stance towards her and this man's protecting his girlfriend. Which he had every right to do. This man started the altercation and then escalated it to murder.

How is it they failed to charge the man right off when the one of the first things he says is a lie. He claims that he was hit from behind. Nowhere was he touched from behind. Even though she threw his firearm he paused as the man turned to walk away from him. You cannot shoot somebody who's retreating from you. That's murder.
First thing he did was assumed Authority he didn't have by accosting the female, and taking up an aggressive stance towards her and this man's protecting his girlfriend. Which he had every right to do. This man started the altercation and then escalated it to murder.


I wonder if he’s straight up lying or does he think this is the way he remembers things<br>The Vidio tells the truth

I wonder if he’s straight up lying or does he think this is the way he remembers things
The Vidio tells the truth


I love how Drejka's arm is pitifully limp when he wants it to be, then perfectly fine at other moments.


People like Michael Drejka subconsciously assume that the law is on their side, which is why they have no fear of cooperating with the police in a self-incriminating manner. It's also why he feels there'll be no consequences to shooting someone as long as you cooperate and perform in the right way.

@cdskilla bro, im just too tired to argue with stupid people. i said what i wanted to say already. read more, read more thoroughly i dunno, some people cant be helped

@Woodsaras the split second decision to pull out his gun was a pure demonstration of intent. It was slowed down to get a better breakdown of what happened. But if you’ve ever been in a court you’d know the jury had probably seen the video a multiple times in real time as well as slowed down. The point is in a split second the plaintiff decided that being pushed to the ground after initiating the conflict that he was not going to tolerate that disrespect and made the decision to escalate the situation even further by withdrawing his weapon and shooting the defendant. If he had a moment of hesitation or the defendant even made a move towards him in a menacing way then his shooting would’ve been justified. But that was not the case and that measured the intent in the defendant. Even though he was in no imminent danger he still decided to shoot.

@Nicholas Ramey did he tell the truth tho? He said his assailant took 3 steps towards him and we clearly saw he didn’t. (Well that’s what I saw I don’t know what your rose colored lenses perceived). You also said he owned up to his actions, well when confronted with the evidence that the events didn’t transpire the way he recounted he didn’t own up to his mistake instead he doubled down. So let me know where and when you saw a mature responsible adult being portrayed, I’ll wait.

@Nicholas Ramey damn bro how's that boot taste?

@Nicholas Ramey damn bro how's that boot taste?

We used to be emperors of the earth, now people kill us by the trillions n shit

General Mark Milley is Benedict Arnold of our time

@f Trigger happy? If you would suddenly fell to the ground and you had a guy standing above you,, then you wouldn't feel scared right? Of course not😏

@Wize Wolf Here comes the racism comment 😆

@Wize Wolf Here comes the racism comment 😆

@Nicholas Ramey Absolutely i speculate he's racist, why else would he almost proudly admit he killed this black guy that he keeps describing as a 'thug' 'animal' etc? We can speculate on why that is all day but the point stands that if he was black & just killed a white kid he would be insane to try that which you already agreed to. Hell even if it was a white kid he killed, he would not have used those words & he probably wouldn't have been so "scared" as to shoot him as he walks away. You seriously think it would have went down the same way? Do you live in the same world as everyone else...?

@Woodsaras i don't know what you're saying.. the interrogation process isn't pretty but in these cases they get a ton of info out of questioning people & there are super clearly defined boundaries, that's why they're recorded to show that there wasn't any 'improper questioning' etc & you can always just not say anything to them.. I'm not sure what an alternative would be. But i mean yes every prosecutors office in the country is set up to secure convictions & a lot of them use this metric as their main goal while at work, which as you can see results in overzealously just throwing as many people as you can in jail for anything possible.

@privileged um, thats exactly what im saying. Hence in the process, their goal is not the objective truthseeking, its incriminating, bending every neutral fact towards their goal.... With a huge ass bias, thats why the situation is absurd. Ive read many psychological assesments of criminals... Man, that is sad. In stead lf being objective, those 'experts' give them, no chance! If youre being bad in prison - you're bad! If you're being good - you're just acting for some egoistical cause... Prejudical damning and judgement just jumps out of the paper. Seems like painting people and personalities in the worst possible light, giving no chance of redemption... not caring for the Actual, which is offten times unknowable. Im mean people in prisions are screwed big time. No ones interested in actualy rehabilitating them. Its all theatre. And wheather im young or naive thats  deffinitely off topic. I see big difference between finding out whether one is guilty or not vs. finding ways for him to be as guilty as possible.... There's a lot of latter when there should be only the first one

@Woodsaras I can tell that you're young/naive because you don't seem to realize that "tricking" you into "talking yourself into trouble" is the entire point of these kinds of interrogations. It's not something these cops just did to this one guy, it's what all cops do to all guys nationwide. It's all a build up to court, they'll use anything they can to secure a conviction

@Wize Wolf Well, you cant incriminate people based on instinct, thats what im saying. Knowing that he previously had altercations with other people (where the gun was also involved, but not used) again, he may be just that kind of person. If we force categories on every crime then its absurd. Man killes his wife, then it means it was a sexist crime... lol... How about its JUST a simple, old school crime with no irrelevant addons? // Anyway, Lets not pretend that he wasnt pushed violently also. Its not hard to react impulsively in a situation like that. Its easy to judge for us and the jury when you can slow the video down, think for an hour about it, analyze, sitting warmly and safely in the security of our own houses, analyse the steps, when and where one was stepping all that jazz..... but in the reality of the moment its a whole different game. Im no lawyer but and dont know ALL the details, but based on the accents of this video i see a reasonable doubt. Im with the defence on this one. Listening to the prosecution at the end made me hate the judical system overall. Its an emotional theatre and a contest of "who frames the crimes better" not realy based on cold facts. Since, you can interpret facts as you wish like shown in the video, when the dude cries when talking about his dogs... the defence gonna frame it "oh, he's sympathetic and has a heart"; prosecution: "vile person! self pity!"... hence reducing a whole person/personality to a one-dimentional and ridiculous. unhuman degree...  One accidental word BAM youre racist! Its ridiculous. Of course, prosecution framed it in the worst possible light not caring where the actual basis for that or not... I dont see why they put such a big emphasis on "remorse", or "feeling guilt"... you can see that in the comments under these type of videos also. What does it matter? Its stupid. It should be irrelevant at the very LEAST. If one thinks that a person cant be remorseful and try to avoid jail at the same time... he's very naive! Life is not some primitive tv soap opera. Imagine your disabled parent youve been caring for years just died... you can feel sad because you lost your parent, relieved/happy because a huge burden of caring for an old person is lifted from you, and now you will be able to start a new chapter of your life (hopeful!), maybe you can feel angry because, your parent actualy set you back consderably and you have no wife, was forced to have two jobs, which you hate in order to take care of him... you can also feel ashamed and angry at yourself for thoughts like these, because he is your godamn parent who took care of you when YOU needed it... etc. etc. etc. etc. All these emotions at the same time! Everchanging! And what the lowyers do.. they take only a small part of that whole personality, a small subset of what that person is, and feels... and highlights, blows it out of proportion to further their own cause/goal (to defend, to prosecute...) .... That why using stuff like that is very, very stupid and should be irrelevant. Yet, we always hear people preaching about criminals.

@Woodsaras although I agree it doesn't make it racial just because of the people involved you have to look at the situation as a whole. Down south. The man thought he was fine with berating a black woman with kids in the car. So he had no regard for who was present. He was quick to shoot the guy who was not advancing towards him. He acted very non chalant about what happened. Acted like the police would understand and it was no big deal. Faked his arm was hurt to garner sympathy that the black man was out of control and he had no choice but to out him down. His language he used to justify the shooting and once again showing no remorse.

He may have not be a racist. But instinct tells me he is.  And just because I can't prove it doesn't mean he wasn't.  And you can't prove he wasn't either.

And your English is very good.

People throw the race thing around way too lightheartedly and with no clear grounds for that. It became a fad, and being called racist realy doesnt do anything because of that.

Same goes for, sexual orientations, disabilities and other minority groups. You cant project the motive onto the criminal, unless he himself CLEARLY states it in various ways. Breivik for example, had the whole manifesto written about the political party he opposes, and proudly motivated his actions. It was clear he was ultra nationalist right affiliate, extremist.

@Wize Wolf Well, you have to prove that it is. It is the burden of the prosecution to prove something like that beyond reasonable doubt. In my eyes its impossible. How can you prove a motif like that? You dont know what the person thinks or feels. I mean, just because the races of the murderer and the victim are different, it doesnt make it automatically a racial crime. A crime is a crime and i dont see how race can play into that. I mean, unless is its something like kkk march or something. I dont understand the whole hate crime subsection especially when used in neutral contexts like this one. I hope i was elaborste. English is not my first.

@Woodsaras you responded to me saying this incident was not about race. I asked you what makes you so sure?

@Wize Wolf Could you please make a longer question? I dont know what you are refering to, sir.

@Nicholas Ramey @sinkiy was right and the narrator even said it at 34:15 so maybe watch the full video and understand that white privilege does exist. And by pretending it doesn’t you are only adding to the problem. White privilege doesn’t mean you are rich or have a stable income. It means when you are a young innocent person walking down the street minding your own business you don’t feel as if you “match the description” or as a mother you won’t have to think this is the day my child won’t come home because of the people who were supposed to protect me. Don’t make assumptions about the black community just like you dont want sinkiy to make assumptions about this random guy. If you want to stay in your bliss ignorance than stay there but don’t tell people who have gone through such trauma from a young age that their issues don’t exist or their being overly dramatic because you don’t know how that could affect them and how ignoring the bigger issue just breeds hatred. I’m not saying that everyone in the black community is a saint because we are all human, I’m saying that we all matter. Sorry for such a rant I just had to get this off my chest because if reading all of these comments and for those who read the whole thing, thank you for reading this and I hope you have an amazing day. 😊

@Nicholas Ramey I agree. It escalated too quickly. I guess im more disappointed at judical system and the investigators who were actively trying to trip the man up into talking himself into trouble. I mean you cant say 'oh he WANTED to kill him' based on minute words or actions you can interpret many other ways... 'oh, he said ALMOST so he is definitely racist!'...  etc. etc. Thats petty and not serious. The prosecution talk at the end... Man THAT was some serious speculative word sallad. They are basically manipulating emotions and facts. I mean you can play the video EVEN SLOWER to make it seem like the dude was a bad person, like he had million years to think... When in reality, when i saw tbe video the first time, wasnt biased or anything, nothing seemed off or bad. But when yiu slow it down you manipulate it to appeal to the jury... This is dirty. This is not law... Its some sort of game.

Or... Here's a contraversial idea... He actualy defended himself and wasnt planning on killing nobody? Hence not feeling in the wrong?

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected sure, another psychic.

He was defending himself. Didnt you see the video? Its all good to push someone from behind while being in the wrong (meaning parking in the wrong spot). Ngga got what he deserves.

@Ms Gigi Yea you shouldn’t kill people that walk away from you.

I used to feel like the cops were on my side. I know better now!

@Nicholas Ramey I read him like a book the moment he started talking to those cops man.  Trust me I know him, with that gun he feels like a cop/military man/guard/security a HERO.  Take that gun away he’s not approaching random strangers to tell them to move their cars I promise you.  It’s like that for a lot of people not just him.  They are so freaking rough and tough with a gun !

@Nicholas Ramey No bs. I  know people like him, grew up with some.  They are all rough and tough with a gun playing super hero. But without they're scared little rats.

It's scary how trigger happy people are. Gonna be this way with Rittenhouse too. Provoking people, history of aggressive behavior, no attempt to retreat or diffuse situation (during first shooting) all caught on various videos on YouTube. It really, really ruins your chance of having a legitimate defense case.

@j  d Yeah and that's why a mostly white jury found him not guilty. Oh wait...

Even if you take a video of yourself killing an entire buses worth of people and show it to the police and give them the recording you absolutely do not talk to police without a lawyer present.

Yup because he's white. The privilege is strong.

Yup because he's white. The privilege is strong.

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected 💯

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected 💯

Hit the nail on the head, I hate people like them so much

Hit the nail on the head, I hate people like them so much

Especially when he kills a black man. He thinks the law will understand and not care either.

If he didn’t have a gun he wouldn’t have even said anything to the woman in the car. Lol

Hun, people like Michael Drejka don't KNOW the law, and that is the problem.


the moment the victim backed off, the self defense case was dead.<br>sure, he shouldn't have been pushed, that was uncalled for... but what was truly uncalled for was getting shot for it. The victim and his wife were being assholes, but the punishment for the crime of being an asshole isn't death.

the moment the victim backed off, the self defense case was dead.
sure, he shouldn't have been pushed, that was uncalled for... but what was truly uncalled for was getting shot for it. The victim and his wife were being assholes, but the punishment for the crime of being an asshole isn't death.


Never talk to the cops even if you believe you are 100% in the right. Ask for a lawyer.


"My upbringing,,, '  I'm a ranch kid, we own several firearms and never was I raised to have a pre-conceived opinion of any fellow human being based  on their skin color or the language they speak.  I'm disgusted by this guy, yeah, I own a gun too, it has a permit and I don't feel a need to carry it everyday since I was 22 and I don't have private parking lot I go play sheriff in.  I DO have a disabled tag, and on days when I'm doing well, I don't use it, someone probably needs it more that day.  I feel so sorry for this family that they had to encounter this concrete cowboy , these children had to watch their father die because  some lunatic feels the need to personally enforce every state law and carry a gun "like a big boy."

@Mystery Minx Did that good ranch learnin' teach you to not put your hands on someone over words? Because that's the direct precursor to this.