If you pull a gun and they back away, then the gun has served its purpose. Shooting them at that point is just murder.

If you pull a gun and they back away, then the gun has served its purpose. Shooting them at that point is just murder.

Only when someone turns their back is it no longer deemed self defense, so the guy backing up shouldn’t take self defense off the table, since logically the guy still is in a position to move forward & attack the gun man. I don’t think it was a justified shoot, but at the same time these situations are made within a fraction of Second sometimes, not easy scenarios to make the right decision in especially if you aren’t trained with a firearm or situational awareness.

Only when someone turns their back is it no longer deemed self defense, so the guy backing up shouldn’t take self defense off the table, since logically the guy still is in a position to move forward & attack the gun man. I don’t think it was a justified shoot, but at the same time these situations are made within a fraction of Second sometimes, not easy scenarios to make the right decision in especially if you aren’t trained with a firearm or situational awareness.

@J T Bullshit. Saved his life? The victim backed away he had no reason to pull the trigger.

@J T Bullshit. Saved his life? The victim backed away he had no reason to pull the trigger.

@Nathen especially when the guy on the other end of the gun is backing away even if you shoot the gun learn how to use it shoot in the knee not in the chest what are the chances of getting killed by a gun to a beating 🤔

@Nathen especially when the guy on the other end of the gun is backing away even if you shoot the gun learn how to use it shoot in the knee not in the chest what are the chances of getting killed by a gun to a beating 🤔

@Sa DMS A beating is death for some people

@Sa DMS A beating is death for some people

@J T lol if you support all lives matter just say that

@J T lol if you support all lives matter just say that

@Sa DMS Not over a parking spot no, over someone attacking me violently from behind... And I'm not American.

@Sa DMS Not over a parking spot no, over someone attacking me violently from behind... And I'm not American.

@Sa DMS And how do you know that? The dude could have been armed and retreat behind his vehicle to start a shootout. He could have lunge to the person on the ground and stole his gun. Also a beating can 100% kill someone.  If someone shoved me by surprise that violently I would consider him a lunatic and unpredictable.

@Sa DMS And how do you know that? The dude could have been armed and retreat behind his vehicle to start a shootout. He could have lunge to the person on the ground and stole his gun. Also a beating can 100% kill someone.  If someone shoved me by surprise that violently I would consider him a lunatic and unpredictable.

@Nicholas Jones You may be shocked to find out that some people actually have foresight as well

@Nicholas Jones You may be shocked to find out that some people actually have foresight as well

@꧁ ꧂ It’s hind sight 20/20 for a reason.

@꧁ ꧂ It’s hind sight 20/20 for a reason.

What if they back away to their vehicle or behind cover to pull out their piece safely and retaliate? Shooting them would make them think twice about retaliating while severely injured.

What if they back away to their vehicle or behind cover to pull out their piece safely and retaliate? Shooting them would make them think twice about retaliating while severely injured.

i'm a complete gun fan and collector, i think we have in Swiss even more gun's then the US p. Capita, but the main difference is our gun culture, our cops have by every search warrant to  expect, that someone could stay behind a door with a gun, but we still never enter a house with a gun pointed to the people, we have a complete other modus operandi, ok, in Europe cops have at least 3 years of school, tactic, law training, especially psycho test, when they note, you are a little bit trigger happy, you don't pass the school, when he would do that in Swiss,  he would loose the job and go too jail like every other citizen, maybe even a stronger sentence, because a cop should know how to handle or at least in Europe, they expect that from a Cop

@Ramanesh Minister of Truth yes he is in Florida state prison he got 20 yrs but will be out in 10. I live 8 mins from where this happen on sunset point.

@Ramanesh Minister of Truth yes he is in Florida state prison he got 20 yrs but will be out in 10. I live 8 mins from where this happen on sunset point.

Will he push someone to the ground for no reason ever again? Nope

Will he push someone to the ground for no reason ever again? Nope

@꧁ ꧂ actually about everything you said is 100% in correct

@꧁ ꧂ actually about everything you said is 100% in correct

Tho pulling the gun is still illegal , you can’t do that for being pushed down , at least here in Florida

Tho pulling the gun is still illegal , you can’t do that for being pushed down , at least here in Florida

wait… this is a really good point. thank you for sharing! i wouldn’t of thought about it this way

wait… this is a really good point. thank you for sharing! i wouldn’t of thought about it this way

@Alexander D dont think it matters if its illegal at the point in which your life is endangered

@Alexander D dont think it matters if its illegal at the point in which your life is endangered

If you were in the same situation you would probably do the same thing. When you are attacked it often impairs your judgement.

If you were in the same situation you would probably do the same thing. When you are attacked it often impairs your judgement.

Company policy sir if you pull it you got to use it

Company policy sir if you pull it you got to use it

@Monique L I don't disagree. But this is always the British way: hold an enquiry after the event and find out what went wrong, then fail for different reasons next time. All of which, in my opinion, lends weight to what I'm saying: the authorities do not and cannot protect everyone, of course they can't! So we should be allowed to protect ourselves. If one of those girls had been carrying a weapon, they maybe get him to back off. Maybe. I don't say guns are a panacea, of course not. I dislike them, and wish they were never necessary. But there are times when they save innocent lives.

@gharqad Oh I see, you are from the U.K. aswell. In that case, mental health services should have been alerted. He must have displayed some sort of strange behaviour before committing that crime. He was also failed by his family and community.

@gharqad Oh I see, you are from the U.K. aswell. In that case, mental health services should have been alerted. He must have displayed some sort of strange behaviour before committing that crime. He was also failed by his family and community.

@Monique L Yes, I appreciate that. That's true. I grew up here in the UK, in a country where citizens aren't allowed to carry weapons, but having seen how utterly ineffectual the authorities are, and how pathetic the justice system has become, my natural inclinations have changed. I would also say that nobody 'has to' carry a weapon in the US. The individual has a choice. Unlike here in the UK, where only the state is armed, and everyone else has to avoid certain places or situations and keep their fingers crossed.

@gharqad This is a major cultural difference. When you grow up in a society where citizens don’t carry guns, the idea of having to, is completely foreign and alien.

@gharqad This is a major cultural difference. When you grow up in a society where citizens don’t carry guns, the idea of having to, is completely foreign and alien.

@Monique L Yes, a really tragic case. It's a sad fact that we take these precautions, but the fact that you do is ample demonstration that you know the authorities do not, and cannot, protect everyone, all the time, so what right do these authorities have to say to a citizen that they may not carry a device that could safeguard their own life? The law enforcement apparatus cleans up the mess and takes offenders off the street after the event - but 700 times a year that is too late, and does not bring loved ones back.

I respectfully disagree with your position, but I want to thank you for your courteous and civilised reply, which is an increasing rarity in this day and age. Have a wonderful and safe day Monique.

@Monique L Yes, a really tragic case. It's a sad fact that we take these precautions, but the fact that you do is ample demonstration that you know the authorities do not, and cannot, protect everyone, all the time, so what right do these authorities have to say to a citizen that they may not carry a device that could safeguard their own life? The law enforcement apparatus cleans up the mess and takes offenders off the street *after the event* - but 700 times a year that is too late, and does not bring loved ones back.

I respectfully disagree with your position, but I want to thank you for your courteous and civilised reply, which is an increasing rarity in this day and age. Have a wonderful and safe day Monique.

@gharqad That happened very close to where I live. It was very sad and it is actually a rare event. Of course we never think these things will never happen to us but there are precautions I do take. I personally never stay in Parks after dark. It’s something I stand by even if it’s only 5pm in the evening. It’s something I absolutely never do.

@gharqad That happened very close to where I live. It was very sad and it is actually a rare event. Of course we never think these things will never happen to us but there are precautions I do take. I personally never stay in Parks after dark. It’s something I stand by even if it’s only 5pm in the evening. It’s something I absolutely never do.

@Monique L Monique - two sisters were stabbed to death in a London park recently by a man who had written a contract with some demon offering sacrifices in return for money. Their final selfie apparently shows them looking anxiously to the side as they see him approaching. I wish one of those sisters had been carrying. The police would never have got there in time. I hear of situations literally every week in which innocent lives could've been saved had the victim been carrying a firearm for self defence. But you 'can't imagine' a situation where you would need a gun? I would respectfully say that in that case you're not paying attention, or else you assume that things which happen to others on a weekly basis could just never happen to you.

This whole 'I trust my life to the authorities' attitude is why Americans are rightly loath to give up their firearm rights. Why on earth would would you be happy to entrust your life and safety to 'the authorities'? There were 700 homicides in the UK in the last year we have figures for. The authorities didn't save those 700 people. That's 2 people per day. Sure, they weren't you, but they still matter, right?

@Alexander D It depends on where you live and what the situation is on whether or not brandishing is justified. In mostly all states youre gonna get fucked if you pull out your firearm without your life being seriously in danger. You really just gotta look at the laws in your state itll give you the answers even tho they may be vague which is done on purpose 🙄 hate it. In this case brandishing and using his firearm both arent justified, he just got pushed and there was no threat to his life. Sorry im late just thought id add my 2 cents since ive been in a brandishing incident. Also the rule if you carry is you dont pull it unless youre going to use it that way it keeps you out of that stupid brandishing bullshit laws 🤷♂

@mechtech256 maybe dont vote anymore if youre so easy to influence that youtube comments are changing your stance on gun control

@mechtech256 maybe dont vote anymore if youre so easy to influence that youtube comments are changing your stance on gun control

@Adil Hlol you literally just typed that he only stopped after seeing the gun. So shooting the dude wasn't necessary. Thanks for playing.

@Adil Hlol you literally just typed that he only stopped after seeing the gun. So shooting the dude wasn't necessary. Thanks for playing.

apply that logic to choosing between blindy assaulting a man who is right about your car being in a place where it shouldn't  VS. admitting your fault, apologising and immediately moving your car.

there lies the issue.

apply that logic to choosing between blindy assaulting a man who is right about your car being in a place where it shouldn't  VS. admitting your fault, apologising and immediately moving your car.

there lies the issue.

@J T Take justice. The justice system is compromised, it’s a joke.

@J T Take justice. The justice system is compromised, it’s a joke.

@Racheal Silburn How many people have you pushed with full force for talking to your family? None I presume, because people have ability to speak and most people will not use force before they try to resolve a situation verbally.

You never know if a guy will respond to force with a force multiplier :)

@Racheal Silburn How many people have you pushed with full force for talking to your family? None I presume, because people have ability to speak and most people will not use force before they try to resolve a situation verbally.

You never know if a guy will respond to force with a force multiplier :)

@Racheal Silburn Pretty obvious that some of these people think he's a thug because he's black. If he was white they would have been shitting all over the shooter for instigating. Btw, my CCL instructor (ex-cop / cop shooting instructor) showed us this video as an example of a blatantly unjustified shooting and told us that the actual police had warned this guy to stop playing parking lot cop for pretty much the exact same thing a week before, when he caused another incident.

@Racheal Silburn Pretty obvious that some of these people think he's a thug because he's black. If he was white they would have been shitting all over the shooter for instigating. Btw, my CCL instructor (ex-cop / cop shooting instructor) showed us this video as an example of a blatantly unjustified shooting and told us that the actual police had warned this guy to stop playing parking lot cop for pretty much the exact same thing a week before, when he caused another incident.

@J T…and 1 or 2 seconds of minding his own business would have costed the “victim” his freedom. You don’t walk up to somebody’s car trying to check them over a parking spot like you’re the police. He wanted that authority he should’ve joined the police department. Now I do agree that man should not have pushed him but as far as he knew some random dude was a THREAT to his family. And why does he have to be a thug? FOH!

@J T…and 1 or 2 seconds of minding his own business would have costed the “victim” his freedom. You don’t walk up to somebody’s car trying to check them over a parking spot like you’re the police. He wanted that authority he should’ve joined the police department. Now I do agree that man should not have pushed him but as far as he knew some random dude was a THREAT to his family. And why does he have to be a thug? FOH!

You’re right the fact that he deemed this a worthy time to shoot his gun off INTO HIS CHEST just shows he was waiting for this moment

You’re right the fact that he deemed this a worthy time to shoot his gun off INTO HIS CHEST just shows he was waiting for this moment

@Cliff Nasa You might be desentized Cliff. Probably should check that shit homie.

@Cliff Nasa You might be desentized Cliff. Probably should check that shit homie.

When you have a gun in a hostile situation you yourself will become hostile and something you naturally wouldn’t. A gun makes people stupid.

When you have a gun in a hostile situation you yourself will become hostile and something you naturally wouldn’t. A gun makes people stupid.

After being pushed to the ground, he took around 1 second to draw his firearm, and took three seconds to decide to shoot the man while he was about to turn around.

After being pushed to the ground, he took around 1 second to draw his firearm, and took three seconds to decide to shoot the man while he was about to turn around.

Has it? Or am I just giving a threat the chance to get his gun?

Has it? Or am I just giving a threat the chance to get his gun?

@Wes Treadwell I know that's a thing but what's worse a situation that could have happened or a situation that did how many gunshot survivors are there compared to fight survivors lol

@Wes Treadwell I know that's a thing but what's worse a situation that could have happened or a situation that did how many gunshot survivors are there compared to fight survivors lol

@Dr. House trying to be a badass because someone was "disrespecting" his old lady.

@Dr. House trying to be a badass because someone was "disrespecting" his old lady.

Can someone explain this, coz I feel I don't understand this part. Why did the Markeis shove Michael as soon as he came out of the store? He was just having a verbal disagreement with his wife right? Did I miss something?

Can someone explain this, coz I feel I don't understand this part. Why did the Markeis shove Michael as soon as he came out of the store? He was just having a verbal disagreement with his wife right? Did I miss something?

@Sa DMS you should look into accidental deaths during fist fights.

@Sa DMS you should look into accidental deaths during fist fights.

Maybe don't impulsively shove people to the ground from a blind angle? That would have saved the mans life.

Maybe don't impulsively shove people to the ground from a blind angle? That would have saved the mans life.

I want to thank everybody for so many replies.

So much hypocrisy on both sides.

I want to thank everybody for so many replies.

So much hypocrisy on both sides.

@Damjan Ilic wow...you brought race into this by what is expected when it is a n****. It is your choice to allow it to feed you in a negative way.  Revenge comes in many forms; murder is one but often you end up screwing yourself.  That is what Drejka did.
To continue your view, you can argue that the McGlockton’s response was natural seeing an adult man yelling and intimidating his fiancée and his children. He was pushing away the perceived threat. He also had the natural reaction of backing away when he saw the gun as shown in the video.
There was no need for you to bring race into and use the n-word

@꧁ ꧂ I’m in tn, open/conceal carry is legal now without a license. So if that tells ya something

@꧁ ꧂ I’m in tn, open/conceal carry is legal now without a license. So if that tells ya something

@Redd Someone I know got arrested for doing literally that exact thing and went to prison for a few months. So, not legal where I live at least.

@Redd Someone I know got arrested for doing literally that exact thing and went to prison for a few months. So, not legal where I live at least.

@M. Diane Julie Benton what kind of a racist bs is that? If someone pushes you like that, the dark side will command revenge or it will feed of you for the rest of your life. In the end you will hurt someone innocent.

"Do what must be done Lord Drejka, do not hesitate, show no mercy."

@M. Diane Julie Benton what kind of a racist bs is that? If someone pushes you like that, the dark side will command revenge or it will feed of you for the rest of your life. In the end you will hurt someone innocent.

"Do what must be done Lord Drejka, do not hesitate, show no mercy."

@Gerhard Hauptmann you should go watch the verdict for this guy. its not the first time he has harrased people in a parking lot. he is wanabe cop who took things too far, he thought it was his duty to police the disabled place in that parking lot. he would sit in the gun shop accross the street waiting for someone to park there. most ironic thing is. when he pulls into the parking lot he parks iligally himself. then proceeds to verbally attack a pregnant woman an her kids for parking in a disabled space. He admitted in an interview that he would not have aproached people and confront them if he never carried a gun. he had it comming. Im glad he wont see the light of day outside iron gates again.

@Damjan Ilic so if some else of a different color had pushed, then no revenge naturally? Wow.

@Damjan Ilic so if some else of a different color had pushed, then no revenge naturally? Wow.

Quick story, yesterday i got my first car, i also own several firearms, and my father brought up that if i were to ever get in road rage or a public incident don’t pull your Glock out. I said” HAHAHAHA, Dad literally what the fuck are you talking about” and word for word what you said here is what i said yesterday to him. Like deja fucking vou.

Also your opinion(s):
If someone was trying to run you off the road while driving, very aggressive like. Is it right to hold your fire arm out the window to show them you’re not one to mess with? Rather is it legal, cause I’m pretty sure someone trying to run you off is an endangerment to your life? Am i right or am i wrong?

All the ‘adults’ in this situation were in the wrong. Right from the beginning.

All the ‘adults’ in this situation were in the wrong. Right from the beginning.

@J T well said, that is exactly what accurately happened. The guy who was shot was larger and bigger was indeed hiking up his pants, and advancing towards the victim who was lying on the floor, after being pushed down violently . The only reason he stopped and backed is after seeing the gun. Michael would have been in a hospitalized or killed if it wasn't for his self defense.

@J T well said, that is exactly what accurately happened. The guy who was shot was larger and bigger was indeed hiking up his pants, and advancing towards the victim who was lying on the floor, after being pushed down violently . The only reason he stopped and backed is after seeing the gun. Michael would have been in a hospitalized or killed if it wasn't for his self defense.

@J T so the man is a thug for trying to protect his wife and family from a man aggressivly berating them over a frivolous mistep. Cool. Cool.

@J T so the man is a thug for trying to protect his wife and family from a man aggressivly berating them over a frivolous mistep. Cool. Cool.

What an idiotic comment. First :"Murder" was never an issue, there is a big difference between "murder" and "manslaughter". Second : He was attacked from behind, he obviously did not see it coming. So he was in a state of shock. Do you really think in such a panic state, you can differentiate, whether the attacker has made a step forward or backward?? I don`t think so. He just realized that the threat was still there and shot out of panic. Blacks nowadays are sacred in the U.S. , that s why he got punished like that.

Unfortunately, the law in most states, that would be considered "brandishing".

You're told in CCW training time and time again. You ONLY pull out your gun when you HAVE to use it. Any other time is illegal.

Unfortunately, the law in most states, that would be considered "brandishing".

You're told in CCW training time and time again. You ONLY pull out your gun when you HAVE to use it. Any other time is illegal.

@Damjan Ilic so now that I have your IP what should I do with it

@Damjan Ilic so now that I have your IP what should I do with it

Just makes them pull theirs.... Bad idea, use it!

Just makes them pull theirs.... Bad idea, use it!

@Damjan Ilic Hahaha that's certainly true

@Damjan Ilic Hahaha that's certainly true

@Honest Jim yeah I know there's no way I was gonna go back and see who I mightve replied to and see why I replied saying that,  I would have to search for like 10 minutes

@Honest Jim yeah I know there's no way I was gonna go back and see who I mightve replied to and see why I replied saying that,  I would have to search for like 10 minutes

@Theunkown guy lol thats the problem with a conversation of 400 comments. I wish they had a way to sort of filter some out.

@Theunkown guy lol thats the problem with a conversation of 400 comments. I wish they had a way to sort of filter some out.

@Honest Jim prolly did respond to the wrong person , so much wasted typing lol

@Honest Jim prolly did respond to the wrong person , so much wasted typing lol

@꧁ ꧂ If parking lot Batman shot without hesitation, he could sell being in shock and get less years.

@꧁ ꧂ If parking lot Batman shot without hesitation, he could sell being in shock and get less years.

@Damjan Ilic Uh, no. What you can't do is still shoot when you hesitate long enough to see them clearly disengaging from the situation. Not to mention, parking lot cop was legally the aggressor in this situation so he'd have a tricky time defending it even if he had instantly shot. Waiting until they put their hands up and back off just makes it even more clear cut.

@Damjan Ilic Uh, no. What you can't do is still shoot when you hesitate long enough to see them clearly disengaging from the situation. Not to mention, parking lot cop was legally the aggressor in this situation so he'd have a tricky time defending it even if he had instantly shot. Waiting until they put their hands up and back off just makes it even more clear cut.

What we've learned from this case is that if someone pushes you from behind, you can fall, take your gun out, turn around and shoot him.

What you can't do is hesitate for a second before shooting, cause than 20 years bro.

Anyway my first comment was a Star Wars quote, so the joke's on all of ya.

What we've learned from this case is that if someone pushes you from behind, you can fall, take your gun out, turn around and shoot him.

What you can't do is hesitate for a second before shooting, cause than 20 years bro.

Anyway my first comment was a Star Wars quote, so the joke's on all of ya.

@J T 21:00-21:50 Why are you defending a liar so much?

@J T 21:00-21:50 Why are you defending a liar so much?

@Rumchata Not accurate from you aswell, you dont shoot untill you eliminate the threat, you shoot to kill, and if he just survives your bullet, ok good.

@Rumchata Not accurate from you aswell, you dont shoot untill you eliminate the threat, you shoot to kill, and if he just survives your bullet, ok good.

@Theunkown guy LMAO, are you sure you're responding to the right person? Because what you said doesn't go against anything I've said thus far. So get wrecked? lol

@Theunkown guy LMAO, are you sure you're responding to the right person? Because what you said doesn't go against anything I've said thus far. So get wrecked? lol

Thank you for putting together the words that I couldn’t

Thank you for putting together the words that I couldn’t

@Smoke Break MMA it isn't about the gun or none of that i know for a fact my dad a white guy would 100 percent would have done the same thing in the victims shoes and I would also be very concerned and prolly frustrated for someone disrespecting my family.

@Smoke Break MMA it isn't about the gun or none of that i know for a fact my dad a white guy would 100 percent would have done the same thing in the victims shoes and I would also be very concerned and prolly frustrated for someone disrespecting my family.

@Smoke Break MMA alright I hate blm and all that other shit and I love mma I just got back from a 5 day wrestling camp and as a another fighter bro you can't just be assuming he's a thug. Like I make racist and I've said the n word im not perfect but I love black people they are the same as all of us ,don't judge a book by its cover. He could have been anybody , he might have been the next Israel adesanya for all we know.

@Smoke Break MMA alright I hate blm and all that other shit and I love mma I just got back from a 5 day wrestling camp and as a another fighter bro you can't just be assuming he's a thug. Like I make racist and I've said the n word im not perfect but I love black people they are the same as all of us ,don't judge a book by its cover. He could have been anybody , he might have been the next Israel adesanya for all we know.

@Honest Jim after he pulled the gun the guy was walking away if he just stood up and walked backwards away it would have been fine also apart of the evidence that made him become guilty is the fact he said he is not a fighter he even states he never fought in school and says he is not a fighter and he even admits people can feel confronted when he checks for stuff and stating the reason he feels safe is the fact he has a permit to carry a weapon so he states he will rely on his weapon , what if he said he was a trained and was in ufc and was said he wasn't worried he could just subdo someone without getting hurt or said he wasn't worried because he can run fast but he doesn't say any of that he says he feels safe cuz he has a permit ,and its also cleary shown the victim was walking away . The shooter was in the absolute right until he shot a person that was backing away and was not doing any more harm. If u were approaching someone with a knife to kill them and they gta style pull a rocket launcher from their ass and you start walking back do you think you think that gives someone the right to kill you. If if you started it and were going out to kill them it doesn't matter like you said the ignorance doesn't justify anything. Your words not mine dumb ass. Get wrecked.

@MarcosElMalo2 plus that's not what the case was about after the gun is pulled he's perfectly safe and the person was backing up , if he just stood up and walked away pointing the gun at him as he walked away they both woulda been fine and the other guy would have actually got in trouble but now they both ruined their lives

@MarcosElMalo2 plus that's not what the case was about after the gun is pulled he's perfectly safe and the person was backing up , if he just stood up and walked away pointing the gun at him as he walked away they both woulda been fine and the other guy would have actually got in trouble but now they both ruined their lives

@MarcosElMalo2 u have no clue what was said and what he heard,  you would've done the same thing if some things were said to a person u hold dear

@MarcosElMalo2 u have no clue what was said and what he heard,  you would've done the same thing if some things were said to a person u hold dear

@Damjan Ilic I've been pushed and spat on and walked away and I'm alot more proud of it and didn't need gun

@Damjan Ilic I've been pushed and spat on and walked away and I'm alot more proud of it and didn't need gun

Not accurate at all. You shoot until the threat is eliminated. Of course everyone will back away at the sight of a gun. However you don’t know what’s going to happen next. If they too have a gun, they will then use it because now THEY are in fear for their life. Like how stupid are. If a burglar points a gun at you, do you think backing away will make him back away lol

Not accurate at all. You shoot until the threat is eliminated. Of course everyone will back away at the sight of a gun. However you don’t know what’s going to happen next. If they too have a gun, they will then use it because now THEY are in fear for their life. Like how stupid are. If a burglar points a gun at you, do you think backing away will make him back away lol

@J T "The dead thug", don't tell on yourself TOO hard there, totally not racist guy.  How could the shooting NOT be justified...THE GUY'S A THUG!

@J T "The dead thug", don't tell on yourself TOO hard there, totally not racist guy.  How could the shooting NOT be justified...THE GUY'S A THUG!

"Pull a gun and they back away, then the gun has served its purpose" I guess it depends on the country, as a cop i would say yes, as a civilian i would say, meh why a civilian has a gun? But i know that you have the 2nd amendment here, i respect that and i understand that. It's an institution and a part of the USA's History.
But as a European it's hard to think that a civilian can use a weapon like guns, assault rifles like AR-15 etc. I think it should be only used for military purpose, by cops and soldiers and not by any civilians.

Guns need a human to be deadly, but humans can be so dumb sometimes and it can escalate so quickly and it can literally erase the existence of a person, so i guess it's hard to trust that it will always be used on purpose. :(

(I don't want to do Europe vs USA thing, because i love USA, guns are a part of USA, i know that!!! I accept that!
And USA isn't only about guns. It's an awesome country with many beautiful landscapes many awesome and different ppl and cultures. It's just hard sometimes for me to see a civilian with a gun :( )

(and i'm sorry for my bad english by the way)

That’s 100% true. What is also true is you don’t attack people. Not only because they might be armed, but because it is a shitty thing to do and if you happen to get shot because you wanna look tough, I’m not gonna cry over it.

That’s 100% true. What is also true is you don’t attack people. Not only because they might be armed, but because it is a shitty thing to do and if you happen to get shot because you wanna look tough, I’m not gonna cry over it.

@Melarus In the US you have people from all walks of life possessing guns. This is not the same in the U.K. for knives. Like I said, it’s a very small cross section of society, usually poor working class, who live in particular areas, boys between the age of 15-25. Like I said, only for reports of gunshots do a special force come out to deal with such cases. Your average policeman is not armed. That’s the way it should be.

@Melarus In the US you have people from all walks of life possessing guns. This is not the same in the U.K. for knives. Like I said, it’s a very small cross section of society, usually poor working class, who live in particular areas, boys between the age of 15-25. Like I said, only for reports of gunshots do a special force come out to deal with such cases. Your average policeman is not armed. That’s the way it should be.

Why would pulling a gun without intent to use it be illegal? I mean that would just cause people to use the guns more if they are already getting into a trouble for it.

Why would pulling a gun without intent to use it be illegal? I mean that would just cause people to use the guns more if they are already getting into a trouble for it.

@Melarus I live in the U.K. and yes there is a small section of society that carries knives but it is a very small group and they on the whole are not threatening to the wider public. I don’t worry about your average person carrying a knife. As for the state, the police only respond to a gun threats with a gun. So I don’t have to worry about being shot by police either. If course there are other ways of killing people but without guns any conflicts between anyone are far less fatal.

@Melarus I live in the U.K. and yes there is a small section of society that carries knives but it is a very small group and they on the whole are not threatening to the wider public. I don’t worry about your average person carrying a knife. As for the state, the police only respond to a gun threats with a gun. So I don’t have to worry about being shot by police either. If course there are other ways of killing people but without guns any conflicts between anyone are far less fatal.

@Simeon Roban Well, yeah. Fair enough. I meant in the context of the video though, where the guy who got shot is pretty clearly trying to disengage.

@Simeon Roban Well, yeah. Fair enough. I meant in the context of the video though, where the guy who got shot is pretty clearly trying to disengage.

Simeon Roban you obviously don’t know the difference between self defense and stand your ground. I suggest looking it up. Everything you said is incorrect. If you attack me I can legally defend myself, that’s self defense, if you attack me or a family member and then run I can legally shoot you in the back. That’s called stand your ground. See the difference?

Simeon Roban you obviously don’t know the difference between self defense and stand your ground. I suggest looking it up. Everything you said is incorrect. If you attack me I can legally defend myself, that’s self defense, if you attack me or a family member and then run I can legally shoot you in the back. That’s called stand your ground. See the difference?

If you pull a gun it's to shoot it, anything else is illegal.

If you pull a gun it's to shoot it, anything else is illegal.

@J T "hiking up his pants" is not a sign of continuing "violent assault". It's a sign of preparing for a fight. He pushed the man, then backed up and readied for a fight. As soon as he saw the gun, he started to retreat, and then was shot.

@J T "hiking up his pants" is not a sign of continuing "violent assault". It's a sign of preparing for a fight. He pushed the man, then backed up and readied for a fight. As soon as he saw the gun, he started to retreat, and then was shot.

Avishai H Both of the people endangered them selfs because they were too quick to resort to aggressive confrontation. Both of them paid a heavy price for this. However, at the end of the day the gunman should not have fired. Watch the footage, as soon as he pulled the gun out the black man froze. The black guy halted the aggression as soon as the gun came out, he was also unarmed. The white guy was in the wrong and deserved time. 21 foot rule is invalid because he did not have a knife and he was not sprinting towards him. Lethal force is a last resort not a first resort. I don’t blame him for drawing his weapon per se but he should have used verbal commands and then retreated away.

@Alexander D you are correct. Kinda like how discharging a fire arm is also a felony.

@Alexander D you are correct. Kinda like how discharging a fire arm is also a felony.

Nope, you are not a person in power whatsoever, everyone on earth is equal and jesus is coming soon repent now before it is to late. GOD IS WATCHING YOU SIN EVERYDAY!!

Nope, you are not a person in power whatsoever, everyone on earth is equal and jesus is coming soon repent now before it is to late. GOD IS WATCHING YOU SIN EVERYDAY!!

@Sabrason Police do not "shoot to kill" so you obviously do not know what you're talking about. And I maintain my stance that all these comments, including yours, are just opinion and conjecture.  I also think you need to do more research. Police do not shoot people just because someone pushes them. There are rules that govern the use of deadly force. If you're so sure this was justified under Florida SYG law... then why is he in prison? You know what... don't answer. Because I don't care.  As I stated... you have your opinion. I have mine. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I was merely stating mine. You can either choose to accept it, ignore it, or continue to let MY opinion live rent free in your head threatening your world view so much that you feel the need to continue to waste your time. It's all up to you.

@Sarah Coomer <---forgot to go to her electroshock therapy session.

@Sarah Coomer <---forgot to go to her electroshock therapy session.

@fasfan I agree with many legal experts around the country who agreed that it was a justified SYG case.  Valid opinions can only be based on FACTS and the LAW.  Your personal agendas, experiences and biases should not and do not have anything to do with it.  The SYG law in Florida is quite clear.  Lethal force is allowed if a person reasonably believes they're at risk of bodily harm = SYG. Very simple, point blank, period.  Drejka was violently pushed to the ground, injured his arm while McGlockton hiked up his pants and advanced 2-3 steps AFTER the push to continue the assault.  That's reasonable fear of ADDITIONAL bodily harm since Drejka was already on the ground and injured.  Drejka was NOT required to wait until McGlockton jumped on him before he fired.  Your years in "law enforcement" are questionable and irrelevant particularly since a cop would immediately draw their weapon and fire at a violent offender who assaulted them the way McG did to Drejka and they'd shoot to kill.  There are videos of that same thing all over YT Mr. "law enforcement."

@Sean Gallagher Of course there was b/c he STILL didn't know if McGlockton was armed or what his next move was.

@Sean Gallagher Of course there was b/c he STILL didn't know if McGlockton was armed or what his next move was.

@J T alright you got me in a bubble now man

@J T alright you got me in a bubble now man

@Sabrason First of all... you're being just as much of an armchair attorney as the rest of us so slow your roll. Your opinion is just as valid as everyone else's.  Make no mistake... that's all these are... opinions.  We are all basing our opinions in our own experiences.  I'm basing my opinion in my years in law enforcement as well as what I'm seeing in the video.  But at the end of the day... none of our opinions mean squat. The only opinions that DO matter is the opinion of the court. It doesn't matter how many "experts" you say say it was justified, there are just as many other "experts" who say it wasn't.
So again... relax. These are YouTube comments where people are just having a conversation about their opinions.  That's it. If you're getting that worked up over them then I suggest maybe contacting betterhelp.com.

@Monique L lol...b/c the gun saved Drejka from further bodily harm and possibly death at the hands of a younger, stronger, faster drug addicted aggressor like McGlockton who had a hx of drug abuse and assaulting a police officer....that's how.

@Monique L lol...b/c the gun saved Drejka from further bodily harm and possibly death at the hands of a younger, stronger, faster drug addicted aggressor like McGlockton who had a hx of drug abuse and assaulting a police officer....that's how.

@fasfan McGlockton was high on MDMA,  had a hx of assault, pulled up his pants and advanced towards Drejka 2-3 steps AFTER THE PUSH before the gun was pulled and used - totally justified shooting and many legal experts agree.

@fasfan McGlockton was high on MDMA,  had a hx of assault, pulled up his pants and advanced towards Drejka 2-3 steps AFTER THE PUSH before the gun was pulled and used - totally justified shooting and many legal experts agree.

@Cliff Nasa Incorrect assessment.  That is not how SYG works which is why many experts agree that it was a justified shooting. Drejka had reasonable reason to believe his safety was in jeopardy AFTER being violently assaulted and injured and took measured action (ONE bullet) to neutralize the threat.  Totally justified.

@Cliff Nasa Incorrect assessment.  That is not how SYG works which is why many experts agree that it was a justified shooting. Drejka had reasonable reason to believe his safety was in jeopardy AFTER being violently assaulted and injured and took measured action (ONE bullet) to neutralize the threat.  Totally justified.

@Sa DMS You have no idea b/c you don't know what McGlockton - a younger, larger, stronger, faster human being who was high on MDMA at the time - was planning had Drejka NOT pulled his gun but it certainly seemed like he was going in for more.

@Sa DMS You have no idea b/c you don't know what McGlockton - a younger, larger, stronger, faster human being who was high on MDMA at the time - was planning had Drejka NOT pulled his gun but it certainly seemed like he was going in for more.

@J T 1. the man never steps toward him once he hotd the ground not once he was levaing 2 your only calling him a thug cause hes black you have some obvious underlying racism cause the man was protecting his family from a kan yelling at his wife and kids

@J T 1. the man never steps toward him once he hotd the ground not once he was levaing 2 your only calling him a thug cause hes black you have some obvious underlying racism cause the man was protecting his family from a kan yelling at his wife and kids

@J T maybe he shouldn't be screaming at a woman and children for committing a traffic violation. last I checked that's not random citizen man's job. like what the fuck?

there is no justification for this. it was a fucking parking violation, and the victim pushed this dude to the ground because this dude had been screaming at his family until he walked outside. so his response to being pushed is to shoot him and take his life.

that's not self defense. his life was not in danger. he created the situation, and could have left at any moment.

@J T of course, the black dude who was protecting his wife is a “thug” whereas the guy who shot the dude for pushing him is the “victim”. Wonder where I’ve seen this one before?

@J T of course, the black dude who was protecting his wife is a “thug” whereas the guy who shot the dude for pushing him is the “victim”. Wonder where I’ve seen this one before?

Why are people here saying that the guy got tackled? Did they not watch the surveillance footage that was shown many times throughout the video, or do they just not know what tackling is?

Why are people here saying that the guy got tackled? Did they not watch the surveillance footage that was shown many times throughout the video, or do they just not know what tackling is?

@willshealy556 He wasn't "picking a fight."  If I saw a guy TALKING to my girlfriend, I'm not going to run up and blindside him with a violent shove and then continue to threateningly advance toward him to continue beating him while he's on the ground...

@willshealy556 He wasn't "picking a fight."  If I saw a guy TALKING to my girlfriend, I'm not going to run up and blindside him with a violent shove and then continue to threateningly advance toward him to continue beating him while he's on the ground...

@J T no way you’re actually defending this guy. If some old ass man was trying to pick a fight with your girlfriend and children, what would you have done?

@J T no way you’re actually defending this guy. If some old ass man was trying to pick a fight with your girlfriend and children, what would you have done?

@mechtech256 True but people are keeping guns only because physical violence is not punished hard enough by the courts.

@mechtech256 True but people are keeping guns only because physical violence is not punished hard enough by the courts.

@J T why do you call him a thug??? From his POV some random stranger was in a altercation with his wife while he went to get snacks with his son. That sounds like a caring father and husband to me.

@J T why do you call him a thug??? From his POV some random stranger was in a altercation with his wife while he went to get snacks with his son. That sounds like a caring father and husband to me.

@Sadistic Demon yeah, they understand they will go to jail if they do it also lmao.<br>Wtf you talking about lol

@Sadistic Demon yeah, they understand they will go to jail if they do it also lmao.
Wtf you talking about lol

It's about sending a message that everybody will understand.

It's about sending a message that everybody will understand.

@Lottie Gallagher Got it.  So words you don't agree with is justification for violent assaults.  I'll keep that in mind.  I don't like your words in particular.

@Lottie Gallagher Got it.  So words you don't agree with is justification for violent assaults.  I'll keep that in mind.  I don't like your words in particular.

You could even see when he pulled it out, EVERYONE backed up, 3 seconds later he still shot.<br>He's careless and uncontrollable.

You could even see when he pulled it out, EVERYONE backed up, 3 seconds later he still shot.
He's careless and uncontrollable.

Totally agree, if he really wanted to use the gun he cold atleast have fired a warning shot

Totally agree, if he really wanted to use the gun he cold atleast have fired a warning shot

@The Sauce just for further context FOR YOU. The first thing I said was this

"This really is a rare event. Think of the amount of times people have properly and effectively used guns to defend themselves." - in other words this was not right what he did, but there are situations that using a gun is justified to defend yourself. So once again, learn to read because you say something idiotic

@The Sauce just for further context FOR YOU. The first thing I said was this

"This really is a rare event. Think of the amount of times people have properly and effectively used guns to defend themselves." - in other words this was not right what he did, but there are situations that using a gun is justified to defend yourself. So once again, learn to read because you say something idiotic

@Malik Jones he pulled the gun the guy backed away this guy was waiting for an excuse to shoot someone give his one incher pincher the thrill of his life and that about sums it up

@Malik Jones he pulled the gun the guy backed away this guy was waiting for an excuse to shoot someone give his one incher pincher the thrill of his life and that about sums it up

@Damjan Ilic its not natural to kill someone or try to kill them when they shove you

@Damjan Ilic its not natural to kill someone or try to kill them when they shove you

@Sergeant Speed Thank you for speaking up. Appreciate and respect

@Sergeant Speed Thank you for speaking up. Appreciate and respect

@fasfan He had time to decide, you can see the moment of hesitation. He decided to shoot anyway after he paused seeing the man back up. He was tryin to protect his fragile ego, not his racist ass from a beating.

@fasfan He had time to decide, you can see the moment of hesitation. He decided to shoot anyway after he paused seeing the man back up. He was tryin to protect his fragile ego, not his racist ass from a beating.

@Sa DMS A beating? Dude, you realize people die from beatings right? Also, you are allowed to use deadly force when you believe either a) your life is in danger or b) you are in danger of serious bodily harm

This is self defense

@Sa DMS A beating? Dude, you realize people die from beatings right? Also, you are allowed to use deadly force when you believe either a) your life is in danger or b) you are in danger of serious bodily harm

This is self defense

@Deep Blue I was told that the police actually had a talk with him about this exact sort of thing a few days before this incident, where he was basically told to stop playing parking lot cop.

@Deep Blue I was told that the police actually had a talk with him about this exact sort of thing a few days before this incident, where he was basically told to stop playing parking lot cop.

He should have never pulled the gun. One of three things will happen at that point.. You will shoot them, they will take it from you and shoot you or if you are lucky they back away and nobody gets hurt. At any rate the chance that the third option will happen doesn't justify the risk of the first two. This guy just clearly wanted to kill someone.

He should have never pulled the gun. One of three things will happen at that point.. You will shoot them, they will take it from you and shoot you or if you are lucky they back away and nobody gets hurt. At any rate the chance that the third option will happen doesn't justify the risk of the first two. This guy just clearly wanted to kill someone.

@Alexander D there’s a difference between scaring a threat with a firearm and flaunting a gun in a threatening manner. Ones illegal, the others not.

@Alexander D there’s a difference between scaring a threat with a firearm and flaunting a gun in a threatening manner. Ones illegal, the others not.

He killed the guy that had just assaulted him. It wasn’t murder. Manslaughter at most.

He killed the guy that had just assaulted him. It wasn’t murder. Manslaughter at most.

@J T man your classmates at recess must've hated you

@J T man your classmates at recess must've hated you

@Ellie Baker You do know you are exaggerating/lying to try to make your point? Not just anyone can buy a gun, there isn't a "significant" number of people who think shooting someone is the answer. There are clear thinking folks who are wise enough to know there are bad people out there who will do good people harm if not stopped, hopefully that means before the gun comes out, and surely before it's fired. You can't legitimately make a blanket statement like that and expect any intelligent and honest people to take it seriously.

@Monique L If you watch the video dispassionately you can see the guy IS advancing before the gun comes out, presumably to attack the guy on the ground. He ONLY stops because the guy draws his weapon. The shooter WAS wrong to shoot after the guy backs away, but stopping that threat is precisely why being pro-gun/carrying a weapon can be a life saver. Having some interpersonal skills, instead of blindsiding a guy might go a long way to de-escalation as well. Again, this situation went bad, but guns save thousands of innocent people a year in situations similar to this.

@J T sure, someone is going to kill you because u talked to their wife agressively, it is this character of being selfish, thinking that everyone is bad, that lets these situations unfold in the first place. And also contributed by his bossy nature to begin with. See good in people.

@J T sure, someone is going to kill you because u talked to their wife agressively, it is this character of being selfish, thinking that everyone is bad, that lets these situations unfold in the first place. And also contributed by his bossy nature to begin with. See good in people.

Unfortunately the Kevins and Karens of the world WANT to use their guns that is why they approach people as if they entitled to enforce some law.

Unfortunately the Kevins and Karens of the world WANT to use their guns that is why they approach people as if they entitled to enforce some law.

@Alexander D Self defense doesn't just apply to shooting someone. You can brandish a firearm as long as it is in self defense.

@Alexander D Self defense doesn't just apply to shooting someone. You can brandish a firearm as long as it is in self defense.

I agree the the man shouldn’t have been shoved, I agree that the man did the right thing pulling out the gun because he felt his life was being threatened. I don’t understand why he shot though. The man was clearly backing away slowly. And he didn’t even have to say “BACK UP OR I’LL SHOOT”. He just shot the other man. Also, if the man wanted to beat him up, wouldn’t a sucker punch be the better option?  And it’s not like he intended for him to fall on the ground, he just wanted to provoke him and push him away from his wife.

@J T bro what makes him a thug? And also I hope you don't own firearms because your way of thinking and processing reality might put you in the same spot as the wannabe in this video.

@J T bro what makes him a thug? And also I hope you don't own firearms because your way of thinking and processing reality might put you in the same spot as the wannabe in this video.

@J T How did it save his life? Did the other guy have a knife out ready to stab him? No. He backed away. If he got closer even with the gun pointed then yes you can say he had intention of harming the other person even with the gun pulled out. But he didn't.

@J T How did it save his life? Did the other guy have a knife out ready to stab him? No. He backed away. If he got closer even with the gun pointed then yes you can say he had intention of harming the other person even with the gun pulled out. But he didn't.

@Amina Ballerina i'd ask them what's going on and why they are so excited. And then i'd listen, understand their perspective and probably end up saying that i understand his anger and that we'd move the car. In return he'd realize that he overreacted and apologize as well. We'd shake hands, continue shopping and go home to make dinner 😊

@Amina Ballerina i'd ask them what's going on and why they are so excited. And then i'd listen, understand their perspective and probably end up saying that i understand his anger and that we'd move the car. In return he'd realize that he overreacted and apologize as well. We'd shake hands, continue shopping and go home to make dinner 😊

People shouldn't walk around with loaded guns in the first place.

People shouldn't walk around with loaded guns in the first place.

@J T yikes, if you’re racist just say that and move on

@J T yikes, if you’re racist just say that and move on

@Friendly Player That's a lie.  NO threat was made whatsoever.  You clearly haven't read the transcripts.

@Friendly Player That's a lie.  NO threat was made whatsoever.  You clearly haven't read the transcripts.

Griffin Jones you must not know the difference between stand your ground law and self defense. You should look up the difference between the two

Griffin Jones you must not know the difference between stand your ground law and self defense. You should look up the difference between the two

@Dahliah b. only in the context you are giving which is very specific. In that scenario I am harassing you. So I am committing a crime. You cannot claim self defense if someone was defending themselves from you who is committing a crime. Its a false equivalence.

That is not at all what I said. If you assaulted me with your fists. You were the one committing the crime, I am not obligated to match you with the same level of force.

@Dahliah b. only in the context you are giving which is very specific. In that scenario I am harassing you. So I am committing a crime. You cannot claim self defense if someone was defending themselves from you who is committing a crime. Its a false equivalence.

That is not at all what I said. If you assaulted me with your fists. You were the one committing the crime, I am not obligated to match you with the same level of force.

@Honest Jim no, that's not how that works. If you follow someone screaming at them at the top of your lungs gs for Instance, they get mad and push you, then you shoot them cause they pushed you, thats actually on you hun! And you'd know that, if you watched the video :)

@Honest Jim no, that's not how that works. If you follow someone screaming at them at the top of your lungs gs for Instance, they get mad and push you, then you shoot them cause they pushed you, thats actually on you hun! And you'd know that, if you watched the video :)

@J T dead thug huh? Tell us how you really feel, this guy got sent away for no reason huh?

@J T dead thug huh? Tell us how you really feel, this guy got sent away for no reason huh?

@James Kraatz Look up the "21 foot rule."  5 feet, you say?  Takes a quarter second to be on someone ...

@James Kraatz Look up the "21 foot rule."  5 feet, you say?  Takes a quarter second to be on someone ...

@Sean Gallagher I covered that in one of my replies. I said pulling the gun was a gray area. I don't know if I would have pulled it, but an argument could have been made making it justified. But I think we all agree that the shooting was not justified.

@Sean Gallagher I covered that in one of my replies. I said pulling the gun was a gray area. I don't know if I would have pulled it, but an argument could have been made making it justified. But I think we all agree that the shooting was not justified.

@Joseph Moncada he was unarmed though. The man not once said he was afraid the guy would acid attack/stab/bludgeon/strangle/etc him in any way. He just wanted a reason to shoot him and thought the shove was enough.

@Joseph Moncada he was unarmed though. The man not once said he was afraid the guy would acid attack/stab/bludgeon/strangle/etc him in any way. He just wanted a reason to shoot him and thought the shove was enough.

@John Smith it was three seconds though, and the man was right in front of him. In fact by the time he pointed his gun the man was backing away, and by the time he fired he took 2-3 steps back.

@John Smith it was three seconds though, and the man was right in front of him. In fact by the time he pointed his gun the man was backing away, and by the time he fired he took 2-3 steps back.

@Mike Oxlong and he parked illegally to so he was just looking for trouble by then

@Mike Oxlong and he parked illegally to so he was just looking for trouble by then

@fasfan since he had no idea who the guy was or what he was doing it was fine to pull the gun, but afterwards he stopped moving towards him there was no reason to shoot him.

@fasfan since he had no idea who the guy was or what he was doing it was fine to pull the gun, but afterwards he stopped moving towards him there was no reason to shoot him.

@Damjan Ilic that’s not justice though. Even if we all believed in “an eye for an eye”, that wasn’t an eye for an eye, that was more of “blowing a hole in your chest for pushing me”.

@Damjan Ilic that’s not justice though. Even if we all believed in “an eye for an eye”, that wasn’t an eye for an eye, that was more of “blowing a hole in your chest for pushing me”.

@J T first off it was closer to three seconds, and even two is enough knkw what someone right in front of you is doing, but you surprisingly said something correct here: He did stop when he saw the gun. That means he was no longer attacking him. What Michael did was escalate a situation unnecessarily after it already ended.

@J T first off it was closer to three seconds, and even two is enough knkw what someone right in front of you is doing, but you surprisingly said something correct here: He did stop when he saw the gun. That means he was no longer attacking him. What Michael did was escalate a situation unnecessarily after it already ended.

@J T except this guy has pulled on gun on several people before... pushing someone once isn't enough to kill someone and calling someone a thug cause their black and a killer innocent cause he's white is telling..

@J T except this guy has pulled on gun on several people before... pushing someone once isn't enough to kill someone and calling someone a thug cause their black and a killer innocent cause he's white is telling..

@charles wheelock OK nevermind, I've been getting replies from this and I've agreed from the first one. So I guess I'm replying just to say I'm agreeing.

@charles wheelock OK nevermind, I've been getting replies from this and I've agreed from the first one. So I guess I'm replying just to say I'm agreeing.

Honestly if someone that much bigger than me came up and pushed me on the ground that easily, I would shoot too. I wouldn’t have even confronted the woman in the first place though, which I think was looking for trouble, and very irresponsible to do when you know you can kill somebody easily. Context is very important, but getting pushed to the ground like that I think is enough to shoot.

Honestly if someone that much bigger than me came up and pushed me on the ground that easily, I would shoot too. I wouldn’t have even confronted the woman in the first place though, which I think was looking for trouble, and very irresponsible to do when you know you can kill somebody easily. Context is very important, but getting pushed to the ground like that I think is enough to shoot.

@Alexander D I’m sure 10,000 people have already said this but in case they haven’t, I think you’re thinking of “brandishing a weapon”, which wouldn’t apply here because brandishing a weapon applies to situation where you are using it as a threat instead of as a defense.

@Alexander D I’m sure 10,000 people have already said this but in case they haven’t, I think you’re thinking of “brandishing a weapon”, which wouldn’t apply here because brandishing a weapon applies to situation where you are using it as a threat instead of as a defense.

@J T "Violently attack someone you think is weaker." That's literally what the guy with a gun did to like 20 people before this confrontation (let's say that they were even whiter than him so that you wouldn't put the blame on them).

@J T "Violently attack someone you think is weaker." That's literally what the guy with a gun did to like 20 people before this confrontation (let's say that they were even whiter than him so that you wouldn't put the blame on them).

@Sand in my Toes there's no point, he's been at it for like 7 months; he's not gonna stop

@Sand in my Toes there's no point, he's been at it for like 7 months; he's not gonna stop

I holded the power of your 3.9k likes or 4.0k likes. I played with it for full 2 minutes lol

I holded the power of your 3.9k likes or 4.0k likes. I played with it for full 2 minutes lol

@Vandal Nope.  The violent THUG who attacked the victim was IN THE STORE at the time, and came out and BLINDSIDED the victim with a violent and dangerous shove out of nowhere, simply because he didn't like the words that the victim was saying!  I'm glad he got what he had coming.

@Vandal Nope.  The violent THUG who attacked the victim was IN THE STORE at the time, and came out and BLINDSIDED the victim with a violent and dangerous shove out of nowhere, simply because he didn't like the words that the victim was saying!  I'm glad he got what he had coming.

@Alexander D yeah but once you pull it... with the intention of using it you can put it back!

@Alexander D yeah but once you pull it... with the intention of using it you can put it back!

@Sa DMS A person can die from a beating.

@Sa DMS A person can die from a beating.

DO NOT draw a weapon unless it is already time for something to be destroyed.  There is no step inbetween drawing the weapon and using it.  It is not a threat.  It is not a show and tell object.  It is not a toy.

DO NOT draw a weapon unless it is already time for something to be destroyed.  There is no step inbetween drawing the weapon and using it.  It is not a threat.  It is not a show and tell object.  It is not a toy.

@Video et Taceo I highly doubt any disabled person would think of Michael as their knight in shining armor for harassing poc.

@Video et Taceo I highly doubt any disabled person would think of Michael as their knight in shining armor for harassing poc.

He did not even need to show the gun its a case of minding your own dam buiness. And worst case senario take the illigal and show you have a weapon.... but if you have to show gun then you probally have to use it.... and this guy just straight up murdered a guy  he was in the wrong   and in the video it looked like the guy backed off any way

He did not even need to show the gun its a case of minding your own dam buiness. And worst case senario take the illigal and show you have a weapon.... but if you have to show gun then you probally have to use it.... and this guy just straight up murdered a guy  he was in the wrong   and in the video it looked like the guy backed off any way

@J T if a 10 year old pushes another kid on the playground that must also be grounds to shoot, correct?

@J T if a 10 year old pushes another kid on the playground that must also be grounds to shoot, correct?

@Kokonut It was a cowardly and VIOLENT shove, and the thug was approaching the victim to continue his assault when the victim thankfully was able to lawfully defend himself with his gun. The jury got it wrong.

@Kokonut It was a cowardly and VIOLENT shove, and the thug was approaching the victim to continue his assault when the victim thankfully was able to lawfully defend himself with his gun. The jury got it wrong.

@J T p<br>President Biden is doing a GREAT job.

@J T p
President Biden is doing a GREAT job.

@Monique L it's in the Constitution. It's a right people want.

@Monique L it's in the Constitution. It's a right people want.

@Sergeant Speed exactly. Michael Dunn ring à bell ?

@Sergeant Speed exactly. Michael Dunn ring à bell ?

@Mike Oxlong it's not insignificant to disabled people who need the space.

@Mike Oxlong it's not insignificant to disabled people who need the space.

@Alexander D that doesn't apply to self defense. Ffs.

@Alexander D that doesn't apply to self defense. Ffs.

Don't steal disabled parking places. That's just rude.

Don't steal disabled parking places. That's just rude.

Obviously, this is the same feeling that the entire jury had. Your pointing out a known fact, but behaving as if any rationale person wouldn't reach the same conclusions.

Obviously, this is the same feeling that the entire jury had. Your pointing out a known fact, but behaving as if any rationale person wouldn't reach the same conclusions.

@J T he wouldn't be in jail if that was the case but sure buddy

@J T he wouldn't be in jail if that was the case but sure buddy

@Kamel Purnell The victim is the guy in jail who got railroaded for defending himself against a violent, rabbid, THUG.

@Kamel Purnell The victim is the guy in jail who got railroaded for defending himself against a violent, rabbid, THUG.

@J T it's just a parking spot man calm down. The way you keep typing "THUG" in all caps makes me feel like you had some personal problems with the victim even before the push.

@J T it's just a parking spot man calm down. The way you keep typing "THUG" in all caps makes me feel like you had some personal problems with the victim even before the push.

@J T someone died over a missing parking pass. That's very stupid.

@J T someone died over a missing parking pass. That's very stupid.

@Alexander D it is illegal to threaten someone with a gun with no intention to use it or reason to. Like if someone cuts you off and you flash a gun. That would def be illegal.

@Alexander D it is illegal to threaten someone with a gun with no intention to use it or reason to. Like if someone cuts you off and you flash a gun. That would def be illegal.

@John Samos I mean I think he could of more legitimately claimed he feared for his life and that the guy was about to pounce on him and it was a split second life or death situation, but after the guy takes two steps back its pretty clearly not self-defence.

@John Samos I mean I think he could of more legitimately claimed he feared for his life and that the guy was about to pounce on him and it was a split second life or death situation, but after the guy takes two steps back its pretty clearly not self-defence.

@fresh donkey  ummm you can’t murd3r somebody for just pushing you right..? I feel like the prosecutor would be on his a** if he shot while he was first approaching bc where is the threat to your life? Maybe if he kept advancing after he was on ground could’ve been an argument for his lawyers there.

@fresh donkey  ummm you can’t murd3r somebody for just pushing you right..? I feel like the prosecutor would be on his a** if he shot while he was first approaching bc where is the threat to your life? Maybe if he kept advancing after he was on ground could’ve been an argument for his lawyers there.

If he would have shot him 2 seconds earlier it would have been clear self defence but because he waited and the guy had time to take two steps back its a different story.

If he would have shot him 2 seconds earlier it would have been clear self defence but because he waited and the guy had time to take two steps back its a different story.

@KillSpawn47 but he didn’t and now that coward is finishing the last chapter of his life locked behind bars and getting beat with combination locks 😆

@KillSpawn47 but he didn’t and now that coward is finishing the last chapter of his life locked behind bars and getting beat with combination locks 😆

@Sensei .22 Nigga learned in hood and prison to punch before and talk later. This wisdom cost him his life.

@Sensei .22 Nigga learned in hood and prison to punch before and talk later. This wisdom cost him his life.

@Damjan Ilic Thats what i was thinking dude pushed him first cuz he knows he's bigger

@Damjan Ilic Thats what i was thinking dude pushed him first cuz he knows he's bigger

@Amina Ballerina I know i would just ask what is happening... Throwing yourself at someone for talking loudly is way overkill.

@Amina Ballerina I know i would just ask what is happening... Throwing yourself at someone for talking loudly is way overkill.

So you don't think at all he would be abit disoriented after taking that hard of a fall? maybe he didn't have eyes on the target before he was backed up... saw the victim move his leg and then shot him. This case is not easy and i think a 30year punishment for something that is not 100% clear is way too harsh.

So you don't think at all he would be abit disoriented after taking that hard of a fall? maybe he didn't have eyes on the target before he was backed up... saw the victim move his leg and then shot him. This case is not easy and i think a 30year punishment for something that is not 100% clear is way too harsh.

Easy for you to say... sitting here writing this comment in your cozy house. You really think it’s that easy in a chaotic situation to decide? Bozo

Easy for you to say... sitting here writing this comment in your cozy house. You really think it’s that easy in a chaotic situation to decide? Bozo

Disagree. What if the victim had a gun and just backed up to grt ready to pull a firearm

Disagree. What if the victim had a gun and just backed up to grt ready to pull a firearm

Btw, the police and criminal justice system both agree with me, considering he was charged with homicide as a result of him pulling his weapon and deciding to use it with no regard for how the situation was unfolding.

Btw, the police and criminal justice system both agree with me, considering he was charged with homicide as a result of him pulling his weapon and deciding to use it with no regard for how the situation was unfolding.

@Alexander D I think it's more so gun safety, don't pull a gun unless you're going to use it.

@Alexander D I think it's more so gun safety, don't pull a gun unless you're going to use it.

Always been told, don't use a gun as muscle. If you pull it, use it

Always been told, don't use a gun as muscle. If you pull it, use it

@Blaine Klaus He initiated the confrontation even though he “hasn’t been in a fight in his life” clearly stating he was planning on using a gun and careless of the safety of others and himself. he’s pathetic and shouldn’t have owned a gun he deserves to rot in prison

@Blaine Klaus He initiated the confrontation even though he “hasn’t been in a fight in his life” clearly stating he was planning on using a gun and careless of the safety of others and himself. he’s pathetic and shouldn’t have owned a gun he deserves to rot in prison

@Blaine Klaus idk, maybe the fact that he can shoot in literally a fraction of a second if he comes at him again? I've been in much worse situations than this, getting pushed down outside of a gas station in broad daylight is really not that scary.

@Blaine Klaus idk, maybe the fact that he can shoot in literally a fraction of a second if he comes at him again? I've been in much worse situations than this, getting pushed down outside of a gas station in broad daylight is really not that scary.

How is he supposed to be sure he won’t be attacked again? You’re wrong and you’ve clearly never been in a situation like this.

How is he supposed to be sure he won’t be attacked again? You’re wrong and you’ve clearly never been in a situation like this.

@J T this is a bit late, but why have a gun if you are incapable of assessing a situation. If the purpose is to prevent/deter attackers from advancing, and you already have it on your persons, you should be mentally prepared to use it. Other wise what the purpose of the gun?

@J T this is a bit late, but why have a gun if you are incapable of assessing a situation. If the purpose is to prevent/deter attackers from advancing, and you already have it on your persons, you should be mentally prepared to use it. Other wise what the purpose of the gun?

Exactly. Brandishing a weapon is part one. This guy was unarmed (but still dangerous)..... and the situation didn’t warrant the guy wanting to inflict serious bodily harm. Even as a woman, unless he pulled out a knife or continued trying to assault me (randomly. I’m not stupid enough to start a fight), I would brandish and possibly fire depending on the severity of the situation. This guy was just looking for a fight and looking for a reason to use his gun. He was specifically looking for trouble, which is one of the biggest DON’Ts when you’re carrying a deadly weapon. Don’t look for trouble, and pray to God that trouble never looks for you.

@Alexander D Not true. You can brandish a weapon without using it if you believe you are at risk of serious bodily harm.

@Alexander D Not true. You can brandish a weapon without using it if you believe you are at risk of serious bodily harm.

People do  things under stress/fear that they wouldn't normally do under normal conditions.  Especially if they have not conditioned themselves to it through training. Even then nothing prepares you for the real thing. Once the adrenalin dump starts coursing through your veins your brain will want to do anything but think clearly.  Heart rate shoots up, tunnel vision, auditory exclusion etc.. FIGHT OR FLIGHT! . All you see is what you may perceive as a viable threat coming at you. Some people just freeze. Unfortunately, for all involved, his brain under the influence of all of that adrenaline/fear told him that that man was a deadly threat and he had better defend himself and shoot before the gun is taken away and possibly used on him.  Just my perspective/opinion of course. We can agree to disagree.

Skiplock Fredo better than the thug in the dirt right?

Skiplock Fredo better than the thug in the dirt right?

@Smoke Break MMA Lol he started a homicide investigation

@Smoke Break MMA Lol he started a homicide investigation

Mitch Setterman 😂😂😂😂 he didn’t start anything. He sure ended it though

Mitch Setterman 😂😂😂😂 he didn’t start anything. He sure ended it though

He's not supposed to be making any kind of confrontations while carrying.

He's not supposed to be making any kind of confrontations while carrying.

e vj you obviously don’t know the laws. There is a law called self defense and there is a law called stand your ground. Stand your ground allows you to shoot them even if they are running away from you as long as you believe your life is in danger. Self defense once they run away you can’t shoot them because the threat is over. You don’t know the difference between the two

e vj you obviously don’t know the laws. There is a law called self defense and there is a law called stand your ground. Stand your ground allows you to shoot them even if they are running away from you as long as you believe your life is in danger. Self defense once they run away you can’t shoot them because the threat is over. You don’t know the difference between the two

@Smoke Break MMA so anyone that pushs someone for yelling at their family is a thug? what gives you the idea that this guy was a thug?

@Smoke Break MMA so anyone that pushs someone for yelling at their family is a thug? what gives you the idea that this guy was a thug?

Ch3k420 never said I was bad ass but it doesn’t take a bad ass to defend yourself when thugs attack you.

Ch3k420 never said I was bad ass but it doesn’t take a bad ass to defend yourself when thugs attack you.

@J T “the violent assault” the man was screaming at his family and he pushed the guy to the ground, STOOD STILL, and the dude shoots him as he is backing up. That’s a violent assault? Seriously? Being PUSHED is not life threatening. No weapon, backing away once the gun was pulled, RETREATING. that’s murder. I know you probably own guns and that’s terrifying that you don’t even know that’s at the least manslaughter

@J T “the violent assault” the man was screaming at his family and he pushed the guy to the ground, STOOD STILL, and the dude shoots him as he is backing up. That’s a violent assault? Seriously? Being PUSHED is not life threatening. No weapon, backing away once the gun was pulled, RETREATING. that’s murder. I know you probably own guns and that’s terrifying that you don’t even know that’s at the least manslaughter

@J T The fact that you called the dead man a thug doesnt sit right with me. You dont know the life he lived.

@J T The fact that you called the dead man a thug doesnt sit right with me. You dont know the life he lived.

not true. watch some police videos of police getting rushed after the person pretends to step back

not true. watch some police videos of police getting rushed after the person pretends to step back

Correct.  The most significant part of self defense is that you are not pursuing another, and in most jurisdictions that you are also attempting to take evasive action.

Correct.  The most significant part of self defense is that you are not pursuing another, and in most jurisdictions that you are also attempting to take evasive action.

Yeah then you just brandished a firearm, a guns purpose is to shoot a target not intimidate a target

Yeah then you just brandished a firearm, a guns purpose is to shoot a target not intimidate a target

@AllEy3s0nMe i’m sorry but if someone is harassing any of my family members i will react accordingly

@AllEy3s0nMe i’m sorry but if someone is harassing any of my family members i will react accordingly

@Amina Ballerina You assess the situation, if no physical threat is immanent you step between the man and your wife. Calmly ask what is happening, and try to diffuse the situation.

@Amina Ballerina You assess the situation, if no physical threat is immanent you step between the man and your wife. Calmly ask what is happening, and try to diffuse the situation.

@Schmoopy Von Boopy You mean how the government has done so well in afganistan? Issue is that if you have to view then entire population as an enemy, then you aren't going to have many friends inside your own country. You don't fight on their terms as a large military might, but other means.

@Schmoopy Von Boopy You mean how the government has done so well in afganistan? Issue is that if you have to view then entire population as an enemy, then you aren't going to have many friends inside your own country. You don't fight on their terms as a large military might, but other means.

@Schmoopy Von Boopy Site your source. I don't know any place in the whole US where a shove isn't viable for an assault charge.

@Schmoopy Von Boopy Site your source. I don't know any place in the whole US where a shove isn't viable for an assault charge.

Yeah guns save more lives than they take just by being brandished.

Yeah guns save more lives than they take just by being brandished.

@Joseph Moncada JT is a bit of a one-trick pony.

@Joseph Moncada JT is a bit of a one-trick pony.

@J T Ah, says the guy who no doubt supports the president with over 20,000 documented lies!  You are PRICELESS!  You should take your comedy routine on the road!

@J T Ah, says the guy who no doubt supports the president with over 20,000 documented lies!  You are PRICELESS!  You should take your comedy routine on the road!

@Monique L Honestly, it's the 2nd amendment and how it's been interpreted, then the gun lobby scares people into thinking they need an arsenal and need to carry to go to the grocery and then top it off with a HUGE problem with mental health and, well, that's the United States of Gunmerica.

People that call themselves pro-life don't care about school shootings.  It's pretty sick and sad.

@Monique L Honestly, it's the 2nd amendment and how it's been interpreted, then the gun lobby scares people into thinking they need an arsenal and need to carry to go to the grocery and then top it off with a HUGE problem with mental health and, well, that's the United States of Gunmerica.

People that call themselves pro-life don't care about school shootings.  It's pretty sick and sad.

@Honest Jim If you think your gun going up against the government, with all of its military might, is going to end well, then I wish you luck.

@Honest Jim If you think your gun going up against the government, with all of its military might, is going to end well, then I wish you luck.

@Ellie Baker Oh, it's bad.  You have no idea.  My state got rid of the requirement to take gun safety classes before getting a concealed carry license so everyone thinks they are justified in shooting someone else over the slightest grievance.

@Ellie Baker Oh, it's bad.  You have no idea.  My state got rid of the requirement to take gun safety classes before getting a concealed carry license so everyone thinks they are justified in shooting someone else over the slightest grievance.

@John Smith The shove was not assault, according to FL law.

@John Smith The shove was not assault, according to FL law.

@MarcosElMalo2 By Florida law, that "shove" did not rise to an assault charge.

@MarcosElMalo2 By Florida law, that "shove" did not rise to an assault charge.

@J T That was not a violent attack.  lol

@J T That was not a violent attack.  lol

@Castle  Training Group Escalating a lot, because the other guy was unarmed, but I guess it was still legal before he shot.

@Castle  Training Group Escalating a lot, because the other guy was unarmed, but I guess it was still legal before he shot.

@Damjan Ilic Wanting revenge and taking a life are two different things. Wanting is not an action.

@Damjan Ilic Wanting revenge and taking a life are two different things. Wanting is not an action.

@Alexander D Not true. If there is not threat, it is called brandishing, which is a crime.  With a threat, you may pull your gun, as a deterrent and a protection.

@Alexander D Not true. If there is not threat, it is called brandishing, which is a crime.  With a threat, you may pull your gun, as a deterrent and a protection.

@J T Words DO have a meaning and if someone is directing some bad ones towards your family and you sit there and do nothing then you would be considered "a pussy" . I think the white man was in the right to pull out his weapon because if not he was gonna end up beaten like my meat at the start of september but nothing justifies him shooting it. He killed a man and got sentenced the maximum amount. It was not self defense bcs when he had the gun in his hands he was already  pretty well defended. Also 2.5 s is ALOT of time to make a reflex decision on this situation. Only by his first step back you already know you are very well safe. You can go watch the ending of the video bcs you havent aparently at least you havent interpreted what was said

@J T he stopped after he saw the gun, you just said it 😂so there was no reason to shoot.

@J T he stopped after he saw the gun, you just said it 😂so there was no reason to shoot.

@J T well Dreka was screaming and yelling at a woman and her kids....so he probably came out of the store and wanted to defend his wife and kids...Dreka isn't an officer or a parking attendant, what is his authority to approach someone and start and altercation? He could have called the police if illegally parked vehicle was an issue....he also mentioned that he sees this all the time and it's a pet peeve so why did he only approach this family????

@J T well Dreka was screaming and yelling at a woman and her kids....so he probably came out of the store and wanted to defend his wife and kids...Dreka isn't an officer or a parking attendant, what is his authority to approach someone and start and altercation? He could have called the police if illegally parked vehicle was an issue....he also mentioned that he sees this all the time and it's a pet peeve so why did he only approach this family????

@J T so the guy defending his wife is a thug but not the guy with the gun? What made the victim a "thug" if you don't mind me asking? Is it because he was intimidating? The shooter kept saying it was his store during the interrogation  even though he was just a patron. That sounds more "thug" like to me but I could be wrong

@J T so the guy defending his wife is a thug but not the guy with the gun? What made the victim a "thug" if you don't mind me asking? Is it because he was intimidating? The shooter kept saying it was his store during the interrogation  even though he was just a patron. That sounds more "thug" like to me but I could be wrong

@J T yea to protect his family who were being harrased by a stranger with CHILDREN in the car! That father had every reason to believe that stranger was threat to his family!

@J T yea to protect his family who were being harrased by a stranger with CHILDREN in the car! That father had every reason to believe that stranger was threat to his family!

The white guy was the aggressor by starting a fight for absolutely no justifiable reason. The black guy was just defending his family from some random guy yelling at her. Therefore there isn't a single aggressive action he could take that would be justifiable. If you're the one being aggressive you do not have the right to self defence. You can't just pick fights and shoot somebody.

Him parking in a handicapped spot was none of that punks business and even if he was a cop, they would just get a ticket or a tow. That's literally it. There would be no argument.

This is how the confrontation should go even if he was a cop:
"Ma'am, are you aware you're parked in a handicapped space?"

"(No)Yes"

"(Well, you are and) You can't do that, it's against the law. You do it again and I'm gonna have to ticket you."

does anyone know if he was finally found guilty? I hope he'll rot in jail

does anyone know if he was finally found guilty? I hope he'll rot in jail

@Alexander D if you pull it out to defend yourself then that is legal. If it turns out you dont have to use it then that doesnt make it illegal.

@Alexander D if you pull it out to defend yourself then that is legal. If it turns out you dont have to use it then that doesnt make it illegal.

@Amina Ballerina you don’t run up and shove them from behind. That’s a coward move. Use your words and try to deescalate the situation. This was all egos.

@Amina Ballerina you don’t run up and shove them from behind. That’s a coward move. Use your words and try to deescalate the situation. This was all egos.

@Smoke Break MMA of he didnt die I'm sure he would've, lol wtf.

@Smoke Break MMA of he didnt die I'm sure he would've, lol wtf.

Cliff Nasa take responsibility and accountability for your actions. That thug who got killed has to take responsibility for his actions, the same for the guy who shot him, he has to take responsibility for that.

Cliff Nasa take responsibility and accountability for your actions. That thug who got killed has to take responsibility for his actions, the same for the guy who shot him, he has to take responsibility for that.

@Smoke Break MMA lol you're weird. Human life has become worthless overtime.

@Smoke Break MMA lol you're weird. Human life has become worthless overtime.

@J T In those exactly 2 and a half seconds all this guy thought was that he had better not miss his only chance at a free kill.

@J T In those exactly 2 and a half seconds all this guy thought was that he had better not miss his only chance at a free kill.

@Sven the Bananaman I was also thinking that. Imagine you walk out of the corner store because you hear arguing and it ends up being some random stranger arguing with your wife. Although the argument shouldn’t have taken place at all, and the husband shouldn’t have completely shoved him to the ground I do understand why he reacted in a violent way. It shouldn’t have been taken to the next extreme by the man who pulled up to complain about their parking job.

@Sven the Bananaman I was also thinking that. Imagine you walk out of the corner store because you hear arguing and it ends up being some random stranger arguing with your wife. Although the argument shouldn’t have taken place at all, and the husband shouldn’t have completely shoved him to the ground I do understand why he reacted in a violent way. It shouldn’t have been taken to the next extreme by the man who pulled up to complain about their parking job.

He was just blind sided by a furious guy, and said guy stood there over him.  I would have been dazed and really frightened.   The shooter sounds careful and concerned about kids.  If the furious one would have yelled at least,  what is going on,  that instead of threatening shove that put him on his back helpless.

He was just blind sided by a furious guy, and said guy stood there over him.  I would have been dazed and really frightened.   The shooter sounds careful and concerned about kids.  If the furious one would have yelled at least,  what is going on,  that instead of threatening shove that put him on his back helpless.

@Murderificationism I'd expect it in many instances where a show of force makes an aggressor back down... Not always though. On top of that if you are carrying and get knocked out and the gun is discovered, it might be used against you, so better pull it when assaulted and hope it stops the agression without needing to fire it. By your reasoning if a cop aims, there should always be shooting and no de-escalation? What nonsense are you spewing here???

@Murderificationism I'd expect it in many instances where a show of force makes an aggressor back down... Not always though. On top of that if you are carrying and get knocked out and the gun is discovered, it might be used against you, so better pull it when assaulted and hope it stops the agression without needing to fire it. By your reasoning if a cop aims, there should always be shooting and no de-escalation? What nonsense are you spewing here???

@fasfan yeah, i read that later, we're almost completely in agreement i see. Shoving him full force on the ground from a blind side is a low act and in my eyes proves you're a potential threat and that justifies the showing of a gun and firing if the assault continues. That threat was ended with a mere show of the gun however, as he clearly backed up. The guy then watches this happen and still shoots... If i had been on the jury i'd have voted guilty of manslaughter for sure.

@fasfan yeah, i read that later, we're almost completely in agreement i see. Shoving him full force on the ground from a blind side is a low act and in my eyes proves you're a potential threat and that justifies the showing of a gun and firing if the assault continues. That threat was ended with a mere show of the gun however, as he clearly backed up. The guy then watches this happen and still shoots... If i had been on the jury i'd have voted guilty of manslaughter for sure.

@AwoudeX If you read my other comment you will see I did agree that an argument could be made for at least pulling his gun. I kind of go either way on that one. But I do not see the other guy continuing once he was on the ground. So the shooting is definitely unjustified. Especially when the guy was clearly withdrawing.

@AwoudeX If you read my other comment you will see I did agree that an argument could be made for at least pulling his gun. I kind of go either way on that one. But I do not see the other guy continuing once he was on the ground. So the shooting is definitely unjustified. Especially when the guy was clearly withdrawing.

@Monique L
First of all, thanks for keeping things polite. Seems rare these days online regarding topics that have the potential to heat up quickly.

<<If my life is sheltered then I’m very grateful. The whole of Europe manages to live their life without guns. People don’t live their lives expecting the worse.>>
the worst? no, i don't live like that either. I however do reserve a level of being on guard when in unfamiliar places. Life has taught me this the hard way. It's different for women however, you do realise that, don't you? There's far less empathy towards men in general. 'safe the women and children first'  in disasters or in hostage situations, the men apparently are expendable and to a degree, society is harder towards men this way.
Switzerland has a 40% or more gun ownership rate, is it part of Europa? Is Switzerland known for having problems with guns? The USA is a rather new experiment regarding individualism, it takes it to the extreme and from my perspective that more than anything else causes certain issues that are amplified when a force multiplier is at hand. My suggestion is to adress the issues and keep the guns and become more like Switzerland: guns but not the bad gun reputation.

<<There should be more pressure on your government to provide a safer environment for their citizens instead of trying to arm the general public.>>
The government is already way too big in most western countries and the tax burden is increasing over time. The system already is stretching beyond what's wise to do.
On top of that, i don't want a few people having more and more power. It's a recipe for future tyranny.

 <<For someone to own a gun they need at least some military training.>>
Do you need to be able to drive a tank in order to get a driver's license too? Leave out the militairy, they train to kill potential enemies. I do agree however that a level of proficiency with guns can be demanded of gun owners. A mandatory practice at intervals to keep you sharp is not a bad thing either, just like we demand from armed cops.

 <<You could not arm somebody like me, who is emotional and can react out of fear in particular situations. Fear is subjective and is not grounds to shoot somebody which will likely result in death.>>
If you say so, but is it reasonable for you to demand this of others because you personally aren't suited for carrying a gun? I rather foster responsibility instead of dependancy on government. Imagine an old lady in her 70's too afraid to go and walk her dog without a gun, but with she's comfortable because her bodily frailty is no longer part of the equation.

 <<Being threatened and being robbed of property isn’t grounds to take a human life. >>
You have the right to defend your property and yourself. If a robber insist despite you aim a gun, then it's not on the victim of a robbery that a life was ended. I don't want to live in a society where i'm not allowed to defend myself and my property.

<<I’m not a religious person but I’m just not prepared to have somebodies life on my back.>>
I hope i never have to be in that situation, but i'll choose my own life over that of someone who's willing to risk it for some trinkets or money.

 <<I think you are naive in thinking you could kill somebody so easily.>>
I think i'm capable but i also think it would scar me for life and still i think it's better than keeling over to crime and just let it happen.

 <<Normal people aren’t killers, no matter how justifiable the reason.>>
Sure, but defending yourself does not equate to being a killer. Don't conflate these 2 things. Defending yourself also doesn't mean that you'll always fire the gun. A show of this force multiplier can be enough and that would be the ideal situation.
On top of that, criminals don't play fair, they will have guns wether they are allowed or not. At some level it's better that law abiding citizens at least have some measure of equal force to defend themselves, because cops 15 minutes away aren't going to stop their bullets.

@AwoudeX If my life is sheltered then I’m very grateful. The whole of Europe manages to live their life without guns. People don’t live their lives expecting the worse.

There should be more pressure on your government to provide a safer environment for their citizens instead of trying to arm the general public. For someone to own a gun they need at least some military training. You could not arm somebody like me, who is emotional and can react out of fear in particular situations. Fear is subjective and is not grounds to shoot somebody which will likely result in death. Being threatened and being robbed of property isn’t grounds to take a human life.

I’m not a religious person but I’m just not prepared to have somebodies life on my back. I think you are naive in thinking you could kill somebody so easily. Normal people aren’t killers, no matter how justifiable the reason.

@AwoudeX I’m from the U.K. I can’t imagine a situation where I would need a gun. I can’t imagine many situations where I would be prepared to shoot anyone. I’d just rather call the authorities to deal with such matters.

@AwoudeX I’m from the U.K. I can’t imagine a situation where I would need a gun. I can’t imagine many situations where I would be prepared to shoot anyone. I’d just rather call the authorities to deal with such matters.

@Amina Ballerina i'd try to defuse for one instance, and if that doesn't work, i'd leave. If things get physical, i'd defend myself and my family. The assault was not needed.

@Amina Ballerina i'd try to defuse for one instance, and if that doesn't work, i'd leave. If things get physical, i'd defend myself and my family. The assault was not needed.

@fasfan I agree with not shooting, i'm however fine with him pulling out to stop the assault. the 'no reason' part is silly. He was on the ground, arm hurt and he lurched over him. I agree with the guy that said: after he backed off, the gun had served it's purpose and no shooting should have followed

@fasfan I agree with not shooting, i'm however fine with him pulling out to stop the assault. the 'no reason' part is silly. He was on the ground, arm hurt and he lurched over him. I agree with the guy that said: after he backed off, the gun had served it's purpose and no shooting should have followed

@J T i actually agree on that one. i mean yeah its not good that he killed him, but that was clearly self defense AND way to less time to asses the situation, whats going on after being blindsided and maybe that guy would also have the gun?he clearly didnt mean to kill anybody.i dont know about the judge decision whether he should get a jail time or no, its really difficult case in my opinion. i would say ok, if he gets a jail time, it should be no more than 3-5years with a chance to get out earlier.

@J T i actually agree on that one. i mean yeah its not good that he killed him, but that was clearly self defense AND way to less time to asses the situation, whats going on after being blindsided and maybe that guy would also have the gun?he clearly didnt mean to kill anybody.i dont know about the judge decision whether he should get a jail time or no, its really difficult case in my opinion. i would say ok, if he gets a jail time, it should be no more than 3-5years with a chance to get out earlier.

@J T He illegally parked to complain about her illegal parking, there should not have been an altercation between them in the first place. Our justice system worked perfectly in this instance. I don’t believe the family was completely in the right either but he didn’t need to kill that man.

@J T He illegally parked to complain about her illegal parking, there should not have been an altercation between them in the first place. Our justice system worked perfectly in this instance. I don’t believe the family was completely in the right either but he didn’t need to kill that man.

probally would of never said anything without it

probally would of never said anything without it

@J T the only victim is the man and his family

@J T the only victim is the man and his family

@Spring Bloom and all the credibility is thrown out the window in you saying this guy couldnt have stopped himself from shooting

@Spring Bloom and all the credibility is thrown out the window in you saying this guy couldnt have stopped himself from shooting

@Spring Bloom "mechanical process" except hes not a machine. Hes a human. A human who was trying to live a fantasy as a hero who defended himself. You are right on one thing tho. This man decided on the ground that he was going to shoot him. Regardless of him fully realizing he is backing up. He wants to end this story as a hero

@Spring Bloom "mechanical process" except hes not a machine. Hes a human. A human who was trying to live a fantasy as a hero who defended himself. You are right on one thing tho. This man decided on the ground that he was going to shoot him. Regardless of him fully realizing he is backing up. He wants to end this story as a hero

@Joseph Moncada It’s not propaganda, I’m just wondering why the US is so unique from most other countries where your average person wants or feels the need to be armed in order to solve problems. Societies that are equally as violent as the US tend to be poverty stricken, unstable countries.

@Joseph Moncada It’s not propaganda, I’m just wondering why the US is so unique from most other countries where your average person wants or feels the need to be armed in order to solve problems. Societies that are equally as violent as the US tend to be poverty stricken, unstable countries.

@Monique L thats literally propoganda. Like me saying that if you move over here your guaranteed a life of riches and prospect

@Monique L thats literally propoganda. Like me saying that if you move over here your guaranteed a life of riches and prospect

@Joseph Moncada Acid attacks are rare in western countries, I’m comparing the US to Europe, which has high levels of economic and political stability. Western countries are no way near as violent as the US. People are relatively comfortable, there is support for people of all social backgrounds and there is not a need to carry weapons in a high functioning society.

@Joseph Moncada Acid attacks are rare in western countries, I’m comparing the US to Europe, which has high levels of economic and political stability. Western countries are no way near as violent as the US. People are relatively comfortable, there is support for people of all social backgrounds and there is not a need to carry weapons in a high functioning society.

@Monique L acid attacks are still very frequent, and just as fast as getting shot. They literally run past you as they huck acid on you. Guns are not the problem. Black markets cannot all be stopped so to put efforts in tackling the existence of guns is fruitless

@Monique L acid attacks are still very frequent, and just as fast as getting shot. They literally run past you as they huck acid on you. Guns are not the problem. Black markets cannot all be stopped so to put efforts in tackling the existence of guns is fruitless

@Mike2014 oh really? So because a bunch of proffesionals deem this guy guilty, its obv because its a race issue? Your worrying about the wrong aspect of race buddy. This guy also illegally parked, and started verbally assualted the women. Hes a thug and the black couple were fearing for their safety so he was attacked

@Mike2014 oh really? So because a bunch of proffesionals deem this guy guilty, its obv because its a race issue? Your worrying about the wrong aspect of race buddy. This guy also illegally parked, and started verbally assualted the women. Hes a thug and the black couple were fearing for their safety so he was attacked

@Joseph Moncada I didn’t say that murder doesn’t happen but in your everyday encounter like this, it doesn’t escalate to this, because normal people are not armed. This was a simple argument that people get into, its natural but within a society where carrying a gun is legal things can get out of control a lot easier. If you are carrying any other type of weapon it is illegal and is therefore far less common.

@Joseph Moncada I didn’t say that murder doesn’t happen but in your everyday encounter like this, it doesn’t escalate to this, because normal people are not armed. This was a simple argument that people get into, its natural but within a society where carrying a gun is legal things can get out of control a lot easier. If you are carrying any other type of weapon it is illegal and is therefore far less common.

@J T no, the word thug was made to be used against black people. It has always been like this. A black criminal is called a thug, a white criminal is called a criminal. Its like a murderer getting told hes a murderer because hes standinh on the dead body, and he says because they assume that a dead body means a murder has happened, the accuser is the murderer

@J T no, the word thug was made to be used against black people. It has always been like this. A black criminal is called a thug, a white criminal is called a criminal. Its like a murderer getting told hes a murderer because hes standinh on the dead body, and he says because they assume that a dead body means a murder has happened, the accuser is the murderer

@Not a great name your getting checked if your arguing with some dudes SO while theyre sitting in their car

@Not a great name your getting checked if your arguing with some dudes SO while theyre sitting in their car

@Monique L ok and where there isnt guns there are acid attacks,stabbings,bludgeoning,strangulation, etc

@Monique L ok and where there isnt guns there are acid attacks,stabbings,bludgeoning,strangulation, etc

@Mike2014 PS every single gun training class you get bombarded with the phrase "never look for an altercation."

What do you call playing parking lot police with random people on a property you don't own?

@Mike2014 PS every single gun training class you get bombarded with the phrase "never look for an altercation."

What do you call playing parking lot police with random people on a property you don't own?

@steelguitarboy Because I don't make YouTube videos, obviously.

@steelguitarboy Because I don't make YouTube videos, obviously.

I think they're both in the wrong, they were only having an argument over a parking spot and then he got tackled to the ground, but then Michael shouldn't have shot, that was an unneeded decision.

I think they're both in the wrong, they were only having an argument over a parking spot and then he got tackled to the ground, but then Michael shouldn't have shot, that was an unneeded decision.

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely no reason to shoot if the guy is backed away. He got what he wanted a shove, the guy was on the ground end of. But the other guy had to shoot him coz he lost that altercation. I hate how he was complaining about his arm when that guy is dead.... He has no remorse!

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely no reason to shoot if the guy is backed away. He got what he wanted a shove, the guy was on the ground end of. But the other guy had to shoot him coz he lost that altercation. I hate how he was complaining about his arm when that guy is dead.... He has no remorse!

@J T I carry every day you're wrong to think that shooting was justified. 2 seconds is a LIFETIME during an altercation. You get tunnel vision and things slow down. He was laser focussed on the guy and knew he backed up. He gave him enough time to back up several feet

@J T I carry every day you're wrong to think that shooting was justified. 2 seconds is a LIFETIME during an altercation. You get tunnel vision and things slow down. He was laser focussed on the guy and knew he backed up. He gave him enough time to back up several feet

@Cliff Nasa I think part of it is these softies see shooting someone as a way to hit back. I had a old guy pick a fight with me once and when I stood my ground he want and got a gun. Im probably lucky he didnt have it on him and had to beg the old guy not to shoot me once he retrieved the firearm. His parting words were I may not be able to fight but I can still shoot.

@Cliff Nasa I think part of it is these softies see shooting someone as a way to hit back. I had a old guy pick a fight with me once and when I stood my ground he want and got a gun. Im probably lucky he didnt have it on him and had to beg the old guy not to shoot me once he retrieved the firearm. His parting words were I may not be able to fight but I can still shoot.

@Alexander D  so it’s better to fucking use it?

@Alexander D  so it’s better to fucking use it?

@Obedient Drone lol so u agree with my guy in this video?? He doesnt deserve to be in jail, so that what you're saying. My opinion on guns has nothing to do with this case

@Obedient Drone lol so u agree with my guy in this video?? He doesnt deserve to be in jail, so that what you're saying. My opinion on guns has nothing to do with this case

@J T "The dead thug was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim to continue his violent assault, and only stopped after he saw the gun." Nah fam, you are just racist. If they guy DID back away the gun served it's purpose

@J T "The dead thug was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim to continue his violent assault, and only stopped after he saw the gun." Nah fam, you are just racist. If they guy DID back away the gun served it's purpose

@Ellie Baker He was backing away for less than 2 seconds, which is not enough time for his victim to decide that he is no longer threat, after just being blindsided and dazed by a sudden violent assault.  Right before he started backing away, he was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim, getting ready to continue violently assaulting and possibly killing him.  THis shoot was 100% justified.  The victim should not be in jail.  The dead thug got what he had coming.

@Ellie Baker He was backing away for less than 2 seconds, which is not enough time for his victim to decide that he is no longer threat, after just being blindsided and dazed by a sudden violent assault.  Right before he started backing away, he was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim, getting ready to continue violently assaulting and possibly killing him.  THis shoot was 100% justified.  The victim should not be in jail.  The dead thug got what he had coming.

@Honest Jim Reading these comments is honestly turning me anti-gun in a general sense, and I've rarely felt like that. What I'm seeing here is a disturbing trend of people that think it's justifiable to escalate a fist fight situation to a murder. Shit like this happens all the time. A pissed off guy at a bar punches someone from behind who is hitting on their girlfriend, etc. Millions of times a year. That doesn't justify an escalation to gun use unless they're taking out a knife/gun/blunt object/or specifically vocalizing intent to kill or taking it beyond a typical man on man fight.

@Monique L "How can you be pro gun when things like this happen?" - This really is a rare event. Think of the amount of times people have properly and effectively used guns to defend themselves. The numbers are hard to get just because a gun can be anything from simply pulling, to shooting and missing but enough to deter them, to shooting and them surviving, shooting and killing. Its estimated around 500,000- 2 million cases where firearms protect someone.

Your also ignore the main reason that it exists is because its a deterrent for a tyrannical government. Its very difficult to suppress your people when they have a means to fight back. Every case of a tyrannical government that succeeded first disarmed their people and you can't sit there and say that the American government wouldn't ever become tyrannical because they are human and can still be corrupted.

Perfectly stated. So sad and difficult to watch. :((

Perfectly stated. So sad and difficult to watch. :((

Yeah pulls a gun guy runs. Job done. Guy runs and gets his gun. Now someone is dying lol.

Yeah pulls a gun guy runs. Job done. Guy runs and gets his gun. Now someone is dying lol.

@John Smith Exactly how I feel about it.

@John Smith Exactly how I feel about it.

I mean, reaction times are an important factor, I think it was justified to pull the gun, but the guy backed away and he shoulda made a retreat. The father was mad, and truth be told he should not have pushed Mike over, that's assault, but he pushed him and then backed up, and then Mike should have seen that and not shot.

I get things can get hot when someone disrespects your woman. But there were bad things on both sides, very bad decisions, Mike especially. He was justified until he pulled the trigger.

@Take a Picture it'll last Longer clearly not because he was walking away after pushing him

@Take a Picture it'll last Longer clearly not because he was walking away after pushing him

@J T saved his life? Bro, he pushed him and started to back away. He wasn’t showing any other signs of advancing on him. He should not have pushed him, but he was not going to end the murder’s life.

@J T saved his life? Bro, he pushed him and started to back away. He wasn’t showing any other signs of advancing on him. He should not have pushed him, but he was not going to end the murder’s life.

@Alexander D You can pull a gun out legally if you feel you are threatened for your life (and can definitively prove this when/if it comes down to that). It is illegal to threaten someone with a firearm, or to "brandish" a firearm implying you have a firearm as a means of intimidation.

@Alexander D You can pull a gun out legally if you feel you are threatened for your life (and can definitively prove this when/if it comes down to that). It is illegal to threaten someone with a firearm, or to "brandish" a firearm implying you have a firearm as a means of intimidation.

@Amina Ballerina The shove wasn’t justified. It’s defined as battery, a crime. But shooting an unarmed man backing away is murder. Agreed? I understand that shoving someone arguing with your spouse might <b>feel</b> justified or relatable. And it doesn’t justify being murdered. I’m not saying that the victim bears any responsibility, not in anyway. As we know, the whole thing was instigated by the self appointed parking lot monitor. Just the same, the shove wasn’t legally justified—if the man hadn’t been killed, he might have faced his day in court.

@Amina Ballerina The shove wasn’t justified. It’s defined as battery, a crime. But shooting an unarmed man backing away is murder. Agreed? I understand that shoving someone arguing with your spouse might *feel* justified or relatable. And it doesn’t justify being murdered. I’m not saying that the victim bears any responsibility, not in anyway. As we know, the whole thing was instigated by the self appointed parking lot monitor. Just the same, the shove wasn’t legally justified—if the man hadn’t been killed, he might have faced his day in court.

@Wowzapalooza How can you be pro gun when things like this happen? What is so unique about the US that the average person needs a gun when all other countries around the world manage without? We still have to deal with our fair share of killings but it eliminates your average confrontation like this, from escalating.

@Wowzapalooza How can you be pro gun when things like this happen? What is so unique about the US that the average person needs a gun when all other countries around the world manage without? We still have to deal with our fair share of killings but it eliminates your average confrontation like this, from escalating.

@Wowzapalooza I get it. I can sort of understand the pulling of the firearm for self defense. It might be a bit of a stretch though.  But I agree the shooting was definitely not justified. He shoved him and was not advancing. The guy on the ground had time to see he was not advancing (although I understand time dilation in a high stress situation could impact his perception.) But once the gun was out, the other guy was clearly retreating. The guy on the ground had time to realize that and decide NOT to shoot.

@Amina Ballerina I don't have a wife, but also I'm not sure what you're getting at. I never said anything about whether I thought the initial push was justified or not. All I said is that it's not self defense to shoot someone who is retreating.

@Amina Ballerina I don't have a wife, but also I'm not sure what you're getting at. I never said anything about whether I thought the initial push was justified or not. All I said is that it's not self defense to shoot someone who is retreating.

@J T  A shove is what you get for meddling in affairs that are not your problem. Michael had absolutely no reason to argue with someone about something as insignificant as a missing handicap pass. I hope ur joking around.

@J T  A shove is what you get for meddling in affairs that are not your problem. Michael had absolutely no reason to argue with someone about something as insignificant as a missing handicap pass. I hope ur joking around.

@꧁ ꧂ question, if you come from the store and you see someone yelling at your wife how would you react?

@꧁ ꧂ question, if you come from the store and you see someone yelling at your wife how would you react?

The guy was assaulted. He was pushed and fell to the ground. A firearm is a deadly force level of force. It is to be used in a deadly force situation.  Once the guy pushed him to the ground he didn't continue to advance. There was no risk of death. He had no reason to pull his firearm and even less to fire it.

The guy was assaulted. He was pushed and fell to the ground. A firearm is a deadly force level of force. It is to be used in a deadly force situation.  Once the guy pushed him to the ground he didn't continue to advance. There was no risk of death. He had no reason to pull his firearm and even less to fire it.

@KillSpawn47 no I agree 1000% percent, and I know my response sounded immature. I think as humans we've become desensitized to human life. We watch ppl die on a daily basis, wether it be through movies, games , youtube. What I saw was a man attacking a man yelling at his wife . And the minute the "Victim" points the gun at him you clearly, CLEARLY see my mans backing up lol. If he lunged forward after he pulled out the gun, then I can understand . All human life is precious.

@KillSpawn47 no I agree 1000% percent, and I know my response sounded immature. I think as humans we've become desensitized to human life. We watch ppl die on a daily basis, wether it be through movies, games , youtube. What I saw was a man attacking a man yelling at his wife . And the minute the "Victim" points the gun at him you clearly, CLEARLY see my mans backing up lol. If he lunged forward after he pulled out the gun, then I can understand . All human life is precious.

@Geordie 1974 Oh haha my bad, I read it the other way.

@Geordie 1974 Oh haha my bad, I read it the other way.

He's at gunpoint. You can shoot in a fraction of a second if he starts coming at you again or makes a move that looks like he's going for a weapon. It's not about how far he has walked away, it's about the fact that he is actively retreating from you. This means that you're in control of the situation at that point, and if that changes you can pull the trigger. And to address some other comments, I have been assaulted multiple times. Once I was attacked by four people in the middle of the street. Your ability to reason does not disappear. There is a reason that using deadly force in self-defense legally requires a legitimate fear for your life. A person actively backing away from you does not justify use of deadly force, even if they did push you down beforehand. If they are retreating then pulling the gun has worked to stop the attack. You are now in control of the situation. Unless that changes, there is no legally justifiable reason to shoot them at that point. This is not my opinion about the situation, it is my interpretation of self-defense laws in America.

He's at gunpoint. You can shoot in a fraction of a second if he starts coming at you again or makes a move that looks like he's going for a weapon. It's not about how far he has walked away, it's about the fact that he is actively retreating from you. This means that you're in control of the situation at that point, and if that changes you can pull the trigger. And to address some other comments, I have been assaulted multiple times. Once I was attacked by four people in the middle of the street. Your ability to reason *does not disappear.* There is a reason that using deadly force in self-defense legally requires a legitimate fear for your life. A person actively backing away from you does not justify use of deadly force, even if they did push you down beforehand. *If they are retreating then pulling the gun has worked to stop the attack. You are now in control of the situation. Unless that changes, there is no legally justifiable reason to shoot them at that point.* This is not my opinion about the situation, it is my interpretation of self-defense laws in America.

@J T Pulling the gun saved him from a beating. Shooting the guy did nothing but get him pulled into a homocide investigation. I've been attacked randomly on the street as well. Your ability to reason does not magically disappear.

@J T Pulling the gun saved him from a beating. Shooting the guy did nothing but get him pulled into a homocide investigation. I've been attacked randomly on the street as well. Your ability to reason does not magically disappear.

@J T it didn't save his life it saved him from a beating at most

@J T it didn't save his life it saved him from a beating at most

1 or 2 seconds isn't enough time to reassess the situation and decide that the threat no longer exists, especially right after being blindsided and dazed with a cowardly  violent attack.  The dead thug was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim to continue his violent assault, and only stopped after he saw the gun.  That gun saved the victim's life.  It's our crap INJUSTICE system that is in the wrong here.

1 or 2 seconds isn't enough time to reassess the situation and decide that the threat no longer exists, especially right after being blindsided and dazed with a cowardly  violent attack.  The dead thug was hiking up his pants and advancing toward the victim to continue his violent assault, and only stopped after he saw the gun.  That gun saved the victim's life.  It's our crap INJUSTICE system that is in the wrong here.

Actually I heard that pulling a gun without the intent to use it is illegal. Haven't read it anywhere just heard.<br>Edit: Aight guys, I get it, brandishing a firearm with the purpose of  warding off an attacker is justified.

Actually I heard that pulling a gun without the intent to use it is illegal. Haven't read it anywhere just heard.
Edit: Aight guys, I get it, brandishing a firearm with the purpose of  warding off an attacker is justified.