I think I've heard people use those exact words to silence comedians and free speech for being offensive to the overly sensitive society that exists today.
Sherlock Well, those people were talking about literal jokes. This here is a metaphorical joke that’s not trying to be comedic. This is completely different.
Harry O'Byrne No use in calling something that has been morphed into a corporate powerhouse of corruption an “old friend”. Copyright law is only what it is now, and shouldn’t be emphasized with for what it was for a tiny sliver of time.
Harry O'Byrne Neither is YouTube. YouTube only seeks to ensure that the site can legally exist and that copyright holders and advertisers are happy with the process of making money. They don’t care about independent creators and haven’t for a long time. Most people have to network a social media influence to make a decent profit off of their content while also being under the boot of copyright law and YT and others weird changes to the algorithm.
Thats not face paint, that is the pure and utter molecular structure of pain inside his DNA. Eroding his outer organs and changing it into something more corrupt and dangerous.
You think that’s bad, there’s this brand management company called Authentic Brands Group that holds likeness rights to dead celebrities like Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, and Muhammad Ali.
There was one episode of "Blue's Clues" where, for a brief moment, Steve does a silly Elvis impression. That episode in particular went unaired for an entire year while legal rights to the voice were negotiated. It's at this point when Nick should've realized copywriting a voice is a terrible idea that ruins everything for everyone, but NAH.
I'm late to this chain but Disney did that with the voice actor for Snow White so that her voice would remain unique to the princess and basically meant the poor voice actress could never work again the the industry
@Danny Caracciolo heres a step-by-step guide to do it
step 1: run for president step 2: look for the most minor problem/war someone is already handling... lets say Russia. step 3: in the war zone, make a no-fly zone step 4: act surprised when Russia gets pissed about it step 5: go to war step 6: get a relative with no idea whats gonna happen and put them in the nuclear launch prevention system tons of other presidents tried to build. step 7: make the system glitch out making it look like multiple nukes are coming step 8: enter a fallout shelter step 9: profit.
ALTERNATIVELY
step 1: become a celebrity (cardashian status or higher or it wont work) step 2: point out false info and correct it step 3: point out a ton of shady shit that happens all the time by Disney etc and give proof step 4: tell the world if the show gets put offline due to "court stuff" (Disney etc suing you) that it means you were right and they should boycott them step 5: run a fundraising campaign to show to the world what is happening. step 6: show the world even more shit using advertisements step 7: rise to HUGE wealth step 8: start pulling some strings behind the scene yourself to correct everything step 9: save your money and push multiple fundraisers to make the world a better place step 10: using the money you saved, bribe the judges to undo most laws pushed to make their brands stay in their hands
step 11(a): win the battle, and get a foothold in the government where you can make country good again. step 12(a): profit
step 11(b): lose the battle, and lose everything, but forcing the other companies to scramble, causing a breakdown as opinions by the higher ups are too divided to keep the company afloat, causing the weaker brands to fall, and the stronger ones to show their weak point, and showing to the mass public that they should not let them rise to that power, causing a mass riot and boycot of those brands, causing them to fall as well. step 12(b): profit
Surely it would be that they own the rights to Tom Kenny’s portrayal of Spongebob. Tom Kenny would be free to come up with other character voices, much like other voice actors would.
counter argument: they paid tom kenny for the character voice and he agreed to the contract. he can still use a different voice for a different character in the future. its the same thing as you commissioning an artist to paint a picture for you. you paid for the work, you oversaw its development and ordered changes to it to fit your goal, you deserve to own it
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USS Liberty2021-01-02 12:33:30 (edited 2021-01-02 12:50:59 )
@Skipper Blue Counter counter argument: Someone accepting an employment contract does not make said contract just. Many professional voice actors star in dozens of roles throughout their careers, even talented voice actors have a limit to how many distinct voices they can do. Many VAs are cast for a particular role because of the way their voice sounds in the first place Eddie Murphy, Tom Hanks, Gilbert Gotfried, Arnold Schwarzenegar. If you weren't allowed to sound like any existing versions of your own voice, casting directors would never be able to use any of your work as a reference point.
Your painting metaphor is poorly conceived. A voice actor is commissioned to read scripts in the way that artists are to paint. The performance is the end product, as is the painting. Copyrighting a voice is more akin to copyrighting an artist's brushstroke tecnique.
I’m alittle late to this comment, the funny thing is (as far as I know) he first used that voice in Mission Hill as a Star Wars actor who played an ewok.
Now voices are getting copywrited? "WHAT IS THIS, THE SECRET COPYWRITING FACILITY? DAMN..... FUCK..... FUCK" - unused cj voice clip from San andreas (oh wait, I'm getting copywrited claimed for that, but who cares anymore)
This is two years late, but when it comes to animation, it is incrediably common for companies to own the voices of their actors/actresses. Ridiculous? Yes. But common none the less.
I legit cannot stand copyright A few months back a 5 year old died of cancer and his father wanted a spider man themed funeral to commemorate his son's hero, however disney didnt allow it, because they didnt want their brand to associated with death
@S_prite well if you don’t pay for a Disney movie there will be no more movies. I’m a big Nintendo fan but I hate what they have done. But I still buy games because they make good games. Remember, not everybody in the company is an asshole.
On a similar note, at least it was a good thing he checked, I remember someone being sued after someone saw there kids superhero themed tombstone and in the end had to replace it and pay a fine..
Because, if there's one thing Peter "Lost His Parents, Uncle, Best Friend And At Least Two Girlfriends" Parker should never be associated with, is death.
You know its really bad when you buy a godamn physical copy of a game (original), for the console you bought (ps4), you use the native recording function, have your time spent on studying the game, the region of it, making a sort of review of it, enhancing it on the native ps4 editor, and uploads it from the console through its native interface to youtube. And get copyright striked not by the music , nor by the game maker, but from IGN !!!
Literally i would be kinda okay with it if it was the music the game played tha looked like pretty much copyrighted material in the scene after the piece that was claimed, or even that ubisoft that made the actuall game, but no, i was copyrighted because one scene of the game appeared in IGN's trailer for THAT GAME , how tf is even IGN holder of the copyright of the game??
I bought that damn thing, used the cherrypicked sony recording function that only allows what sony wants to be recorded, and yet i was copyright claimed by a company that has nothing to do with neither the game or its actual copyright holder.
(The game was far cry 4, the scene was the beggining of the game where you are kidnapped into Pagan Min's hellicopter with a rag on your face).
@Tom Hill So.. the law allows a random company to say it has the copyright to a material it hasn't done? And the law can break its own rules with the fair usage act?
Nah i don't think so.
If ubisoft did flag me, as i said, i would be fine with it, after all, they made the game, the trailers for the game. Not a random shit youtube channel wanting to profit on other person's videos.
Detail, i wans't making a single penny out of the works of ubisoft! Bur ign can make money out of my and ubisoft's work? What?
And no, i'm not willing to reb agains laws, but against shitty companies wich use and abuse of breachs in the law.
@【 Chilael 】 É issae véi, foda mesmo. Desisti de gravar far cry 4 depois dessa. E percebi o quanto a ign é grande e tbm sacana. Ela fez isso em vários vídeos de gente q criticava ela tbm.
@Eduardo Avila Poha ai fode mesmo, tomara que no futuro essas compania que fica usando area cinza da lei pra ganhar dinheiro acabem sendo multadas ou outra coisa assim
Eduardo Avila This is the classic case of a misguided terrorized non-radical. You refuse to rebel against a government who institutes laws and has its ties directly in the same pie as corporations (they make money when corporations make money utilizing their laws and system, as well as getting direct gratification knowing their system is being justified by that same corporate conglomerate when they utilize it to claim content) but you’ll gladly fight a losing a battle, i.e. wipe the make up off the corporations faces by exposing their indiscriminate and arguably disingenuous use of the copyright system, instead of just attacking the root source of the issue, that being the government that will defend corporations that utilize this broken system to the day it dies simply to gain more revenue and justification for its existence.
People that fail to realize, or refuse to accept in some cases, the fact that corporations and government are one in the same, are the same people that will fight to the teeth about a specific partisan issue, but will refuse to acknowledge just how bad their own partisan ideas and ideals are on society. The left-right paradigm of politics has us fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting elite conglomerate that want to see us fail. The center left is anti-government but pro-corporation, they want the government to stop fighting pointless money wars but they won’t bat an eye at corporations utilizing children or underpaying workers as long as they get their fair share of the outcome. The center right is fairly anti-corporation, they believe corporations are against American ideals and that the underpayment of workers is an inherent flaw to the American economy, while in the same vein allowing the government to pursue pointless and harmful wars and excursions because “muh freedom and democracy.” Instead of just being aware of both of the issues laid out and realizing that both corporations and government have their own interests in mind, not our own as the people, they fight to ignore the issues in their own ideals while indiscriminately attacking the other side for being wrong entirely. And this is just on the average, centerist American view, not even touching on the radicalized and politicized far right and left ideologies that plague internet spheres and college campuses alike.
We’re coming to a head, whether it’s with all the current events that have occurred over the past few months or if it’s because of a growing bubble waiting to be popped within the radical sphere that’s been waiting to pop for years, there’s no denying that the political landscape of the Western world has been on the steady decline in terms of actually getting anything done and helping the people that need it the most. The inevitable ultimatum is the agreement of all that the government has done and the fact that it is simply misguided steps in an end goal of helping the population, which I argue is a willfully ignorant and, in a sense, stupidly optimistic outlook, or you agree that what the government has been doing to the population for decades is in fact not a place that we should be seeing ourselves head and that we must take a stance against it entirely or simply let it consume our society until we’ve got no choice but to submit to its monopolistic tendencies. The choice is given, now you must choose.
Who else is astonished by the fact that you never knew that copyrights expired after some time and became public domain? It’s almost like some people don’t want you to know that
Lol I'm not sure what you mean.. There are adults that don't know about the public domain? What? That's some pretty damn secluded people. Have you never bought those DVD packs back in the early 2000s with like 30 movies on them from different studios and wondered how that's possible?..
Information about public domain has always been available, theres no money to be made it letting people know stuff is public domain so people arent shouting about it.
Whats the real bad thing is how they’re constantly and quietly trying to extend it indefinitely just to squeeze money out of anything created, forever after it was created.
I mainly knew about it from stuff like internet Archive and being a history nerd. Fun fact, as of 2020, works from 1924 will be in the public domain because copywrite lasts 96 years. I'm sure everyone is happy to be able to use Hinky Dinky Parley Voo in their videos. Of course, assuming another company hasn't made a cover of it and renewed its copywrite.
Just checked. It looks like Hinky Dinky Parley Voo had its copywrite renewed in 2018 by IMI. Sad times all around. Guess we have to wait another 94 years.
"And why should copyrights expire!? The very notion is ridiculous - expiration of property. Like imagine if you own a house and your ownership of it expired after 20 years, after which anyone could move in for free! Or if your car became "public domain" if you don't drive it for a week." -- some absolute bellend in Disney.
I've known that things go into the public domain, but I had NO idea that the public domain itself had been made to progress so slowly, and that the copyright laws were extended so vastly and egregiously. The obvious stain of corporate interest permeates even creative protection, how sad.
@Tom Hill no public domain is how that's possible. I'm not talking about bootlegs, im talking about the DVDs in walmart or target that are obviously legal products. They use public domain movies so they cant be sued. I'm well aware of bootlegs (especially in the music world, but also in film) and that's not what I'm referring to.
If you've ever taken an entry level media course, this is week 2 info. Including the proper information about the public domain and songs like "Happy Birthday" are in the public domain despite the fact that this video mischaracterized that bit of info.
@Please Respond Yes. The fault in that comparison is the fact that intellectual property is not property. If I copy a song to my computer, then I'm not touching the creator's stuff, I'm just rearranging my own bits on my own computer. The creator will still get to keep his song. So a better comparison would that if I did not drive for a week then other people would be allowed to copy my car or buy the same model. Or if I own a house then after 20 years other people would be allowed to make copies of my house.
What seperates a government from a gang? What seperates theft from tax? What seperates murder from government admistered lethal injection? what seperates gang violence from war? Governments and gangs are only seperated by their power. Although, we cannot survive effectively without co-operation and at least a small amount of government, so why not remove all things that make the government bad? Why have presidents and prime ministers when we can have a direct democracy instead where people are much freer than now? It's because direct democracy only works on smaller scales, so maybe representatives with no actual power who are picked by random and stay for only about a week?
uhhhh oh no I should stop rambling to myself about Anarchy
What seperates a government from a gang? What seperates theft from tax? What seperates murder from government admistered lethal injection? what seperates gang violence from war? Governments and gangs are only seperated by their power. Although, we cannot survive effectively without co-operation and at least a small amount of government, so why not remove all things that make the government bad? Why have presidents and prime ministers when we can have a direct democracy instead where people are much freer than now? It's because direct democracy only works on smaller scales, so maybe representatives with no actual power who are picked by random and stay for only about a week?
uhhhh oh no I should stop rambling to myself about Anarchy
11:34 To put that into perspective, Hawaii was still an independent nation in 1893. It was the year Huey Long was born. The world's first motion picture studio had just finished construction. The world's first college basketball game had occurred. Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire still had another 2 decades of life left. The Congo Free State was still around (the one run by Leopold II). The Orange Free State was still around. The Utah war was still a matter of debate. The very first Parliament of the World's Religions was hosted. Happy Birthday was published the same year as all of this, and it is STILL in copyright.
@Tom Hill It was a war between the nation of Utah and the United States. Utah was founded as a Mormon nation after the Mormons were kicked out of the USA. The US won the war in 1858, and Utah did not become a state until 1896. From that time, a lot of issues sprang up between Mormons and the Federal Government, especially over polygamy.
@Intergalactic Human Empire ....are you for real? ...so, Utah is a rebel state then? Do they have statues of their generals like the south does for when they rebelled?
@Ethan W Monster We deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893 that we had absolutely nothing to do with creating. Just thought that should be in there.
The people who did claim copyright claimed the copyright on the lyrics*, because the notes published in 1893 and shown in the video *are in the public domain. Even worse, the court ruled the song public domain not because it's past it's due date, but because no one could prove the actual owners of the copyright for the lyrics.
When this video released, all works from the year 1923 were coming into the public domain. Nothing from 1893 is still eligible for copyright.
LITERALLY NO LIVING PERSON ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN ROCK WAS EVEN ALIVE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE. NOBODY ALIVE WAS THERE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE A N D I T S T I L L W A S N ' T I N T H E P U B L I C D O M A I N U N T I L 2 0 1 6
Also 1893 was 20 years before the Wild West ended and three years after the Wounded Knee massacre aka the last battle between the US Army and native Americans.
The purpose of copyright given in the Constitution is “to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” Originally, the idea of granting monopolies to artists and inventors was seen as something of a necessary evil to be tolerated for a short while in order to promote knowledge, science, art, and discoveries into the public domain quickly. In other words, the expansion of the public domain was the intent of copyright, with temporary artistic monopoly being a tool used to achieve it. Now, public domain has been all but legislated away and preserving/expanding the monopoly is the goal (life + 70 years). It's literally the same 3 corporations licensing out all of humanity's works from the past 100 years to the other 2 corporations, and suing all of humanity daily for uttering anything more than the name of the work, in any context, with any amount of references to the work.
I’ve always hated how it worked a reaction Channel can’t put on The music from the game or the video because it’s copyrighted like W H A T????. That doesn’t make a lick a damn sense
I hate to break it to you but legal constructions like copyright law are just another way that capitalism reinforces itself. The notion of 'private property' and copyright law are intrinsically linked. It was never about promoting knowledge, science and art, instead these regulations were designed to commodify more of human labour. Copyright law isnt just a joke, its a travesty that is sucking the life from humanity
@Harrison Moore Bro don't make being anti-copyright cringe. The "Capitalism-Communism" dichotomy is outdated and inadequate. Communism requires enforcement in order to stop people from trading or owning things; the enforcers necessarily must be inherently unequal from the enforced. Neoliberal laissez-faire capitalism allows foreign governments and companies to buy up your own country's land, businesses, and lawmakers, and impoverish your people by offering cheaper labor alternatives that stagnate their wages for decades (Hart-Celler Act passes, wages stop rising).
@Cosmic Trey i ignored metros comment because I never advocated for communism in my original comment. I was criticising capitalism. Stop trying to deflect criticism onto other economic structures
@Harrison Moore You don't have to say the word 'communism' for it to be obvious what you're advocating for. There is no 'deflecting' going on, you are linking the ideas of private property and 100-year long copywrites as if the former necessitates the latter. If there's no private property, then who's deciding who deserves what? There's a reason that 'redistribution' has has a clear end historically.
You're allowed to criticize whatever you want. It's not like we live in a fascist society. But unconstructive criticism is just that.
Criticising something isnt the same as advocating for something else. If you cant figure out how critical frameworks work then this discussion is pointless. Your argument is a stupid way of deflecting criticism by saying 'well the alternative is w-worse!'. That's not an argument, thats infantile and disingenuous. Learn how criticism works and then you can argue your points
@Harrison Moore 'infantile' is continuing to argue that something is being argued wrong without actually addressing anything. Part of being an adult is knowing that blind idealism that doesn't consider ultimate consequences is tragic. But sure, I'm the one being disingenuous.
Instead of the incumbent copyright law, how about the following:
1. The initial copyright monopoly is 15 years + a 15 year extension if you apply for it.
2. If you decide that something you created should be taken out of the public domain, then you have to go through the same application process to take it out of the public domain as you did for the extension, with a maximum period out of the domain of two years, and you, or a company you are affiliated with must release a product that prominently features the piece of media that was taken out.
3. Once a piece of media is old enough to be in the public domain, it can be taken out only once for a maximum of two years and with no extensions.
4. If someone plans to take something out of the public domain for another release, then the initial creator must inform all online uploaders of the content that they are aware of that they are about to release a new product with the copyrighted material in it within nine months before removing the material (ex: if you upload a rom of a game that is about to be featured in a re-release, then inform those who uploaded the rom that it will be taken down on the release date, as well as when it will be eligible to be re-uploaded without copyright violation).
5. Taking something out of the public domain, and proceeding to do nothing with the copyrighted material taken out in the two years after removal will result in a fine paid directly to anyone whose online content was removed.
Implementing a law like this and executing it properly would progress the public domain to 1992, would allow rightsholders who plan on reusing an old property to remove it from the public domain only once, and for two years (most major works have probably made a lot of their money by then), and would hold them accountable for any misuse of the removal of properties from the public domain.
John Gardner2022-04-30 12:16:31 (edited 2022-04-30 12:21:39 )
@PETRIXXX The rest of the world uses DD/MM/YYYY like sensible, logical people should. US date order is fucked up.
And no, MM/DD/YYYY isn't justifiable on the basis that it follows the spoken order of dates ("April 30th, 2022"), because you don't say "The fourth, the thirtieth" in speech, so encoding dates in writing following that order makes no fucking sense.
This series has been an extremely productive way to get people to understand frustrations of content creators, and the history behind copyright. Nice job man, thanks again.
5:19 The patent system has been completely corrupted as a tool of corporate power as well, hiring a lawyer to file and defend a patent costs indvidual inventors infeasible amounts of money. Patents are also the reason why things such as insulin are so ridiculously expensive, companies can make slight modifications to retain their monopoly over the invention and prevent competition and innovation just like with copyright.
The problem isn’t the patients though, for insulin the issue is that every batch needs to be clinically tried because it’s biological production is less consistent then chemical production (like how aspirin is made).
The Problem is it's not youtubes fault If youtube denies a copyright strike the are the ones to fight it and that will get way to expensive so It's how the law works
Fun fact! Noisestorm will not use the crab rave in his new game, due to fears that it would get copyrighted in gameplay videos of the game. HIS OWN SONG.
The music label Monstercat does claim videos but doesn’t strike them, there’s an entire community on using their music but they sometimes claim it, they don’t block videos but claim the revenue. There’s more info about copyright on their website.
@eastsport pick up a Monstercat creator licence. That is what content creators do to use their songs freely. In fact with this you could use some of marshmallows earlier songs.
@TastyHam Monstercat Gold. $5/mo. It is some kind of the radio-like licensing that AmpLemon talked in the vid. You pay 5 dollars per month and you can use nearly all of the songs released on Monstercat in your streams/vids without copyright claims. (Some of the songs can't be used becuz of complex licensing, but standard releases like Crab Rave can be used without much worry) I personally would recommend it if you like electronic music and create content for YouTube or stream on Twitch/Mixer.
@Choo Hey, remember when TheFatRat got copyright struck for using his own song on the same platform? Yes, it's entirely true, plausible and has happened.
If I was a game designer using my own music in my own game, I would just put a screen in the game giving permission for use in creators' gameplay videos.
@VyProductions Except that's not how it works. The label you release the songs on technically owns part of the license that's on your songs. You need your own permission and that of the label you're currently contracted to in order to do this. If you have a flexible contract, so you only license tracks released to them, it's different, but in the case of Crab Rave(released on the Monstercat label), Noisestorm has to technically contact Monstercat and ask them for permission then file his own permission and then he's allowed to use it in his game and make the permissions screen allowing others to stream it via the game.
@VyProductions Yes, artists like me who are unsigned(10 years and rolling, I'm not crying, you're crying!). But we're talking about Crab Rave, a song licensed to a label. Noisestorm needs Monstercat's permission if he'd want to use it in his game. That's why he's using unlicensed music he made specifically for the game instead as to avoid having to ask for permission for his own music. So let me say again: Crab Rave is not 100% owned by Noisestorm, it's partially licensed to Monstercat, therefore he needs permission from Monstercat in order to use it for anything.
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BAI GAMING2019-12-14 15:26:14 (edited 2019-12-14 15:27:10 )
Reminds me of how you're not allowed to re-use your own materials that you wrote for other classes in university, ie, you can't re-use your own essay if you somehow had two different classes where you had to write two essays. Self-plagarization is actually a thing. I took an advanced bio course where he had the same questions as another class, so I asked if I could re-use my old materials and he was fine with it, but you actually have to ask for permission
Pornhub is so incredibly kind to it's creators that when a man posted videos of himself having sex with an underaged girl he abducted for 18 months, they didn't even kick him off the site. In fact, they actively paid him for it.
@D Zuke yea me too, I don't understand the argument, if pornhub be youtube they will implement youtube system so they don't go bankrupt because all of the corporation sue them
Holy damn, you're right. In theory, you could use almost any scene from a porn movie in your videos as long as it doesn't show nudity or anything like that.
Make a yt that has no limits try to keep porn to minimum and nudity is allowed so play any game and copyright has nothing on anyone and curse as much as u want or talk about hentai or gore and anything see where I’m going at
Gotta love how Pornhub was an incredibly useful and underrated platform, and now it's all screwed up because the Legacy media decided it would be fun to do a hitpiece on it and feed into the Twitter crowd. God it's like nothing can ever be wild west forever... it's like nothing can ever be fun so long as there are people out there who actively wish to tear it down.
I’m not sure why there are people complaining about what kind of things get posted to PH and what Creators get verified/single boosted. YT has identical issues lol, like for years…
A suggestion for part 4: In Germany it even went so far that for many years pretty much ALL music videos and videos containing copyrighted music were ENTIRELY BLOCKED because the local collecting society, the GEMA (who is also a big topic on its own because of their general infamous practices in Germany), just wanted to milk the shit out of Youtube similar to Viacom back then. According to a study it went up to a whooping 61.5% of the 1000 most viewed videos (yeeees, 615 of 1000 videos) were ENTIRELY GEOBLOCKED in Germany due to Copyright bullshit. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany
Even as someone who owns a label, releases his own music and owns all that shit, my childhood attachment to things like YTPoop and other early YT content has also made me similarly radical.
Literally why I took the initiative to do it myself rather than grind until some major sees me. At least this way if someone uses me as an outro or one of my beats as background, they all good and if something did go wrong, it'd be up to me to handle it not some faceless suits.
P.S. i do love to hear you complain but I subbed cause your earnhardt video made a room full of grown men cry, none of which like racing.
You are the companies, John. Seriously. These are publicly traded corporations. If their stock price goes up, that pleases their shareholders. Regular arse people like you. So they will do anything to make them stonks grow. Jt just so happens, that tbe best way to ensure profitable business is to establish a totalitarian oligarchy.m
You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.
Remember that scene in the Simpsons when Grandpa used a potato gag to impress Marge's mum but was instantly forced by a lawyer to stop or else he'd get a lawsuit.
@Mr. Moron the simpsons didn't predict anything, copyright has just been stagnant that long. Simpsons wasn't predicting the future, it was making fun of the past
At least when you're writing fiction, there's a lot more freedom to come up with new, original ideas (as in there's generic fictional genres that you can use as starting templates to build your own worlds and shit). Like, I've been doing creative writing related stuff in my free time for about 10 or so years now, so creating worlds from scratch on pen and paper isn't super hard for me.
But yeah, YouTube definitely gets the short end of the stick as far as copyright abuse goes along with just the music industry in general. Both of those are incredibly fucked, and you even have entire genres built around sampling stuff in both scenes (ie: YTP and vaporwave). Imagine if magazine companies copyrighted each issue of a magazine they made in order to hound people who make collages out of them (because, y'know, collages take magazines and transform them into art). That's basically what the movie and music industry does to both YTPs and vaporwave. Although, in the case of vaporwave, the scene is underground enough that they aren't really dealing with any legal battles yet. I do think that once that happens and they win out in court, we'll start to see some actual change in the battle against greedy copyright laws.
Lawful evil people rule the world we need more chaotic good to balance it.
and less old idiots making laws.
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Mr. Moron2020-07-01 15:45:07 (edited 2020-07-07 16:35:01 )
would you rather have the corps make them? trust me, if those old farts die, the power is going to the CORPS, using their power. NOT the people. we have to elect a good president soon, or we will live in a dystopia (which is implying we are not already living in one, which i think we do)
There are actually people who did it. Record a song, make sure to be the owner of that song (legally and for youtube), and play it as the outro or intro in every video, just to then copystrike yourself and get at least half of the revenue yourself.
theres a method called the "copyright deadlock" in which you get your video claimed by 2 or more companies so now none of them can claim the video. Its actually possible to get a deadlock with just one company but 2 of its divisions, for example having both nintendo of america and nintendo of japan claim your video
@Punocchio no body gets money. you make no money off of the video, but at least no corporation will be able to make money off the video as well. Usefull for when you know a video is gonna be claimed
You and Internet Historian are the two people I will follow to the ends of the internet if and when YouTube crashes and burns. Edit: scratch the “if” part.
I just love the chaotic energy flowing through everything you post on this website. I absolutely adore your editing-style and 'Lemon'-persona - it's so unique, raw and intimately real at times. Your political comments may not be the most theoretically funded, but I always come to respect them because they're well thought out and grounded in your experiences.
And the whole meta-commentary thing that you do these days just resonates so well with me. It fits so well into and captures that lifestyle-feeling some of us have today (whatever generation it is, though I think I'm roughly the same age as you) -the Spongebob-"Never Ever"-thing for example.
As a decade-long YTP-lurker (from Germany, remember Axel Voss and Art. 13?^^) and fan of transformative art in a lot of media (and as someone who is aware of how internet communication works) I share your concerns over copyright made to favor big companies and the way this is dealt with today.
So yeah, great three part-epic, and you just keep on doing what you do. Ehrenmann, as you would say in German.
copyright just like most "modern" laws are abstract and empty. They're not based in honor and honesty or protecting the people but the impersonal corporations.
I disagree. You just have bad taste. All my subscriptions are great, because I don't watch trash. You can argue that the normies watch the trash that does exist, but that's what they've always been doing, since the dawn of man. Finding good content has never been easy, now the bad stuff is just boring-bad instead of wtf-bad.
@doc okkk >Like Reddit You mean where everyone acts like they're better than anyone else and think they're smarter than everyone only to hAve their pants pulled down by 4chan on a drunken whim Yeah no
@doc okkk lol, you think reddit isn't a censored hell hole. the entirety of the internet is owned by the corporate masters, welcome to the new normal, enjoy.
@Stevee Johnson Your point is incomprehensible. You go from "if you're affected by the changes your taste is trash" to "I didn't say it was perfect". You're not making it work. You literally have no hand in the matter.
@Titanium Rain i think what he's saying is that you should make the most of it, while failing to realize that most people are too stupid to do so. sure, we can, but the grand audience cant or doesnt care enough to (which is perfectly reasonable because taste is subjective), which is why emp advocates for a new system to push actual good shit instead of the watchmojos of the world
@Titanium Rain I do in fact have a say in the matter of what I watch. I don't care what content youtube is encouraging, I will find good content. If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy. In your case probably both.
Maciej Królikowski how about don’t make it like Reddit or 4chan and just make YouTube how it was years ago. Freedom to joke how you want without blatantly harassing and witch hunting others?
@Stevee Johnson "If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy." - wait, I'm not sure you're on the same wavelength. Youtube has deleted or forced people to private half the shit on my favorites and watch later playlists. Youtube classics are in danger of getting nuked under the new terms of service. There's videos that even though are not unlisted, are nearly impossible to find unless someone links you to them because they're buried in the search results. How are people stupid or lazy for losing access to content that was previously available?
It is important to still have hope for the company, as we have indeed seen steps to fix the copyright claims in recent times. To me this means that they DO at least care a little about the problem and are likely to continue to try and fix it. I've noticed a trend in many companies beginning to respect content creators a lot more and listen to them instead of being rooted in the money. Sure, it still isn't too great now, but it is a whole lot better than it was a year ago. Id rather have hope for a website everyone uses [and still is a pretty good way to post content] then just complaining and wanting it to burn or get replaced when its pretty clear that just is not going to happen. Continue speaking out and you may actually be heard.
@doc okkk as much as I love Reddit as a concept it's just as flawed if not more so. Tyrannical mods, an even stronger echo chamber effect on many of it's users, the looming chinese overlords censoring the entire platform, Reddit is a step in the right direction but at its core it's not something we can hold onto if we want real creative liberty. It too will need to be replaced with something better.
Thank you for this video series, I feel like you're the only and first guy around that made all the right points about this issue. As someone who always wanted to become a Youtuber but became more and more reluctant each time I tried to start, because I already encountered copyright problems on the first video I uploaded, you gave me some kind of hope.
Only to crush it later on again, because you shed light on all the shitty systems that are in place. Ironic, isn't it?
Anyway, well put together video as always. May the Downward Spiral guide you.
Imagine humming the melody to Billy Joel's piano man in a bar, and an undercover policeman comes up to you and says "Stop! You violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence, your stolen music is now forfeit"
Deer War Veteran I can never remember which one is which lmao, I just take the boomer approach and call em all skyrim and likely piss off the entire internet while doing so
"There will come a time when copyright law is made to benefit the artists."
No, EmpLemon. There won't. Disney has already won. They held this ground long enough that zoomers are growing up with it. They never did pirate, at least not in any way they were aware of, because they've always had legal ways to consume at a reasonable price, and little access to places and tools with which to repurpose that media, since it was illegal to do so anyway. When the Boomers finally die, the country will belong to people who think this is normal and correct.
Youtube itself is becoming exactly what it always wanted to be: the media conglomerate outlet, a replacement for cable TV. People who created things, who created Youtube itself, will be choked off of the platform, and nothing will meaningfully replace it because of how big it is. Real art will probably be strictly local within a decade, because the plebeians can't be allowed broader reach than that. By then, nobody will even remember that Youtube HAD real creators on it.
@MMFan2004 This is not capitalism. This is oligarchy and cronyism. Capitalism is just the ownership of means of production in the hands of private individuals.
@MMFan2004 you'll get exactly the same thing under communism. unless you get rid of the yids that keep the oligarchy running for good, then you're doomed to an eternity of serfdom under ruthless merchants who were never meant to adopt the mantle of ruler of the people.
@Kriplovski I mean, no one is meant to adopt the rule of the people. It's just that the people who do, happen to be stronger. The monarchy was weak, so it fell. Simple as that. Because power mongering never changes.
@Pritam Sarkar that is exactly the problem, private companies are owning all the means of production so they can make an oligopoly (if not a monopoly) by making copyright practicly last for ever.
@Fco Omega They are not private companies, they are PUBLIC companies whose shares are held by stockholders.... That is why when companies sell shares for the first time, it is called IPO(Initial Public Offering). Google, Amazon, Tesla are all public corporations. Private companies don't trade shares in public stocks, for instance SpaceX. I have a minor in entrepreneurship and finance. Don't BS with me.
@Pritam Sarkar even if your definition is true, those companies are still privatizing almost anything they can so its more dificult to make any kind of new competition, why do you think disney is buying every studio in every oportunity it has? why do you think facebook brought instagram instead of developing facebook to make healthy competition?
@Tom Hill the monarchy didn't fall because it was weak, it fell because, for a multitude of contextual reasons, its time had come for the period that it was active in, as is the case with every single governing body in existence. the thing that made the monarchy so special was how long it lasted, which can be attributed to multiple factors, of course, though my favourite is the fact that in a monarchy, as in a theocracy, the only thing that is ever seen as truly eternal is the heavens, and the works of men are regarded as entities which come and go with the passing of the ages, governing bodies included.
the takeaway here is that communists like to claim that the state they seek to build is eternal, which if you take the fact that nothing man creates is eternal into consideration, proves itself to be an outright lie, to that end, why would you or anyone else ever trust what a communist has to say about how their society will function?
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Tom Hill2020-02-11 07:47:33 (edited 2020-02-11 07:47:48 )
@Kriplovski I haven't heard them say anything about building something eternal. They mostly just say Fuck the DNC. Which is a sentiment I can get behind. Hey, where are you making shit up?
@Pritam Sarkar There isn't a difference. Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. We should criticize its negative elements, instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"
@LordVader1094 'Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. ' It is also something that isn't outside of communism. Look at North Korea. Capitalism is just owning the means of production by private hands. No country is purely capitalistic. As is the US. Mixed Economy, instead of the pure Market economy, or pure command economy is followed in most western countries.
@LordVader1094 'instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"' Nobody is pretending anything. You are not educated enough to understand financial systems and instead depend on labels and superficial attributes. Again, Western economies are mixed economies, neither purely market or command economy. Capitalism is just ownership of means of production by private citizens.
@Moth Wan It is all about scale. One can be socialist in family-scale, a democrat on state scale, and a republican of national scale. Scaling rules depend on dimensions and size. Do you think microscopic world and macroscopic world are the same?
@Kriplovski Communism in its truest form aims to create a classless-stateless society. It is a utopia, the ultimate form of human civilization. And according to their hypothesis, Socialism is the path to achieve it. Socialism is not true communism, but a path to end goal. Unfortunately, socialism forces to have a top-down centralized system for resource and power allocation. Question is who decides and how they decide, who are have's and who are have not's?
@Pritam Sarkar means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc. so they can make money for just owning stuff instead of making their products and services better.
this is why, for example, disney buy marvel, fox, lucas films, etc. because they can make an oligopoly for just owning star wars, avengers, the simpsons, etc. and if anyone wants to put it them in (just for example) an stream service, they have to do it with the permition of disney. what is so hard to undertand?
also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad" but you arent making any solutions to capitalism's problems, like dude, not everyone that hate capitalism is a communist or even a socialist, for example i am social democrat. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"
@Fco Omega '. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"' Again, I have already explained my why thinking in labels is dangerous, short-sighted and ignorant. Try think from fundamental and principal laws from the next time.
@Fco Omega 'also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad"' Top-Down systems? Too much centralization? The Problem of economic knowledge? Are you even reading my comments? This critique of communism also holds for Fascism(Which is sort of economic off-brand communism), Dictatorships and Political religions like Islam and Catholics.
@Fco Omega 'means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc.' And many of those companies are public companies, whose shares are traded in the open market. First, try to understand what Public vs Private means? Anti-Trust Laws exist in the USA for this very reason.
@Pritam Sarkar it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addresing the issues of capitalism, you are escencially moving the conversation to other topic so we dont talk about why capitalism fails.
just because those companies are "public" doesnt mean anything, they are just operating with only making profits in mind, putting things like work condition, quality of services/products, healthy competition, etc. completly aside.
also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright (witch it supposed to be an antitrust law) so it only benefit big companies, and you believe that doesnt happen with other antitrust laws? all antitrust laws are corrupted in any way posible, just look at the case of "epic store vs steam" or how amazon become the bigger digital store by just buying their competition. you are just trying to defend the status quo with no real arguments at all, i mean, you arent even giving any solutions to the copyright problem.
@Fco Omega 'it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addressing the issues of capitalism,' Define capitalism first! What do you mean? Free Market System? Or are you against the idea of having the means of production in the hands of private individuals?? Stop trying to copy-paste bullshit Labels, which you don't seem to understand in the first place.
@Fco Omega 'they are just operating with only making profits in mind,' So, if an industry is profitable, you expect more players coming for that profit, increasing supply, decreasing prices. Markets move towards equilibrium. However, if it is imposed monopoly/oligarchy/State Restrictions, Free market system cannot do this!
@Fco Omega 'also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright' He also called it antiquated. He says a subscription model(Yearly Basis) or Content actual time basis would solve such issues. Maybe companies that will implement EmpLemon's idea first will have more customers, hence more profit, forcing others to do the same. Hail Profits!
@Fco Omega I am more interested in Skin in the game and hidden asymmetries in life and games(Game Theory). Learn Chaos Theory and Game theory.....You will understand what plagues systems inefficiencies and asymmetries and possible ways to remediate said problems. ('Capitalism', Communism, Fascism, etc....)
@Fco Omega 'witch it always ends with companies fighting for who own the more stuff, creating a monopoly.
' Really? Seen the market lately? AMD vs Intel?? Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war.
@Fco Omega ', i mean, you are ignoring how disney, google, amazon and facebook are buying all the companies they can so no one can make any kind of real competition in their respective markets.' In North America and Europe? Yes? What about Baidu, Naver, LineApps? Also, companies like DuckDuckGo are providing competitive services at a profit while protecting privacy. Alternatively media companies are growing(Like Gab, Minds, etc)
@Fco Omega 'AND AGAIN, you are not giving any kind of options or solutions to the problems, suscription models dont work,' Not me, I as quoting EmpLemon, did you even watch the video properly?
@Fco Omega 'we are using your definition of capitalism, "privatizations of means of productions' Nope, Humans always liked to own private goods from the time of the stone age.(In this context private meant families, not individuals) WTF?? Are you even human??
@Tzer 'Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.' Who will then courrpted by power! Power Courrpts! Absolute power courrupts everyone!
@Fco Omega The problem is that there truly is no solution. The balance between the economic spectrum is impossible to achieve because we as a society are simply that complex in our beliefs and behaviours. If everyone operates perfectly under a perfect system, it will work in either case. Such is the concept of utopia, be it of any ideology.
However, reality is chaotic and chaos is a fundamental aspect of it. Chaos is a very nessicary evil to prevent the achievement of mechanized utopia at the hands of artificial processes. We are human and will always conflict over systems that are flawed, in that they are only treated as such due to the deviant human thought that makes us all so unique.
Humanity, as of the current period, has taken the path of capitalism due to it fulfilling the many individualist factors we wish to satiate. It benefits our diverse nature and gives us a means of freedom. However, it is not perfect due to our biological differences in mental function and opinion.
This is a truth that many people, for some reason, be it because of it's dark implications, cannot accept or see. You can "improve it" in the way we as society see it to further us along the road of the mechanized singularity, or you can reveal and tear it down in the name of chaos, freedom and humanity. Thus, a different system will take the norm and we will once again strive to perfect it until we reach singularity or collapse. This is why history is a cycle and why we see the rise and fall of empires.
Call me crazy, call me stupid, call me pessimistic. I do not care. However, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that every aspect of our beings follows this path on a fundamental level.
Tl;dr Be happy with what you have, and even try to improve it, but know that there are limits to how much something can be improved.
@Pritam Sarkar quick question... you just went amd vs intel... are there any other chip producers that are THAT huge? let alone being known by the public that well? not picking a side here, but pick a few better examples.
also, you went "Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war." is Russia still doing a lot of space related stuff? and is the budget of NASA as high as during that race? or amount of public fanfare about the innovations of NASA? let me answer that, no. for every dollar of of tax you give the government NASA gets HALF a PENNY, while before they were throwing ALL their money at NASA to make them look good. and i bet you probably didn't know there's a satellite floating around checking moisture around the planet to figure out if the crops are gonna grow well or not, or that that tech is given to poor country's to feed themselves better. the ONLY real competition NASA really has is the Tesla space program, which is well funded and can do their jobs, and even then there is to little work done!
simply put, competition will eventually die out. unless someone does something to spark tons of attention.
and also, i forgot to mention somthin. do me a favor and next time you start shopping for food, look around and search for independent shops selling somthing, and look at how many customers there are. then look for a big name brand shop like target or your country's version of it (mines the "plus" or "albert hein") chances are you cant really find a independent shop, and even the one thats around is pretty small and doesnt have a lot of people in it. now look for a photo of wherever you shopped.... lets saayyy.... 15 or 20 years ago. and take a good look. you might have notised that there are TONS of those independent shops working their ass off to stick out from the crowd.
@Martyr_Lightsilver the whole point is that those independent, small shops were running themselves out of business so they could earn more money. if they became big enough they could afford a new location, running the shops there out of business as you have more money to spend on your new location. that allowed them to make money. this kept happening. the other shops ran out of buissness, so in turn there is less competition! unless somthing drastic happens this'll keep happening.
@007bistromath It simply doesnt though. It matters not one bit what it is you are trying to supress, the mere fact of you doing it will only proliferate it faster. Certainly social manipulation has grown nuanced in this age of information, but you can keep these things in check only for so long, before some unexprcted constellation of factors and an inciting incident lead to an exponential collapse of the carefully constructed system. Not once in history has it been different, and I see no reason why it would be now.
I agree with everything here except boomers being the cause. Of course boomers where the worst in this aspect but rather it’s the corporate cronyism of the establishment that abuse copyright.
Gaming Lakitu He revealed his face in his Ackbar YTP series Part 3 at the end of the video, saying that nobody’s gonna watch that video. For the most part, he’s right. No one knows
5:15 "It should work like the patent system protecting the small guys from big corporations." HAH! Emp, read up on software patent wars. The patent system is completely broken for anything that is even slightly abstract.
EmpLemon has become the new watchdog of online bullshit. Copyright, exploitation, and more corporate bullshit overtaking our platform. Hats off to you my man, from one YouTuber to another.
Emp. I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who DESPISES copyright law. I started my personal crusade against the practice 10 years ago when I found out the Harley Davidson exhaust sound was copyrighted. So you're telling me that I need permission to play the sound an engine makes? It's a fucking sound that an engine just so happens to make. You've got to be shitting me.
Just wanna say I love EmpLemon's taste in music. Every time I watch one of his vids I'm treated to something. Love that he included "Thick as a Brick" even when it's a watered down version to avoid a copyright claim.
Thank you for speaking up about this. WMG and UMG are like the greediest music company ever. They already have tons of money from Spotify plays and album sells yet have the audacity to claim so many YouTube videos because it contains like 20 seconds of their music playing in the background. I really hope someone competent that experienced YouTube's broken copyright system replaced Susan one day. Susan is a goddamn puppet.
"At first, I thought prohibition was a good thing. People were drinking more and having a lot more fun. But without beer, prohibition doesn't work." — Homer Simpson, 1997 (from episode S8-E18, 4F15)
It's been a hot minute since this video was uploaded, but I wanted to say thanks for this series Emp. Honestly I feel like issues with copyright nowadays are just a problem that'll go under everyone's noses until suddenly, one day, something bad happens (like it keeps happening every few years or so. These videos were so great on this subject I'm even writing a basic research paper on copyright law for a class of mine.
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João Lobo2019-12-15 23:09:40 (edited 2019-12-15 23:09:59 )
EPIC! There will come a time when as soon as you are born you're owned by a company an every time someone says your name they will get mugged by a team of laywers passing by.
I never knew how bad it actually was until I wanted to make a fan edit of a music video and post it. Now I have to share the edit around in private I can really understand your pain now.
Amp, at some time in the future, if you ever choose to return to this topic, could you talk about the difficulty/impossibility that exists within getting in contact with these conglomerate companies to ask permission to use their assets?
Emplemon, you are one of the most unique and amazing content creators on youtube. Everytime you upload a video these days, I think "Oof, another 30-or-so minute rant, do I really want to watch that?" But then I remember what all the other ones were like, and I do watch it, and every single one is educational, to the point, enriching, and still entertaining. Never stop what you're doing.
@Harrison Haine honestly, I hated Mr. Peanutbutter when I started watching the show but he really grew on me. He seemed really static and bland in the beginning, but man did that really change. I love all the dumb shit that him and Todd do and I love how fleshed-out all the characters came to be as the series went on. I could talk for hours about how much I enjoy it but I'm not trying to go on a huge tangent in an unrelated comment thread lol. January 31st cannot come soon enough.
Man I just love living in a corporatocracy.. its almost like the majority of the world's problems can be distilled down to the practice of allowing corporations to buy political policies.
Glad I finally made my way back to your channel. I was a complete YTP sperg in grade school but began to lose interest year or so before you really started to hit it big. When I saw you were changing your channel focus I was pretty disappointed, thinking you were the only decent YTPer still going (other than cs), and as a result I didn’t give your content a chance. I really enjoy it though. Glad you’re continuing to find a place on this site.
@JOD Stop doing live streams where you go to random videos from popular channels and comment some random shit, its getting old, annoying and uncreative, try making something actually productive that will make your channel better.
SafeEggs I believe commenting for 10-12 hours is creative. I find it fun because I can talk to chat and list to music. I am sorry you feel that way thooo. I respect your opinion homie
Why doesn't YouTube STOP paying EVERYBODY when a copyright strike is made. Especially, before it's proven as FACT? They simply add an escrow type place & place the earnings on hold. Until after the strike is resolved? Thus stopping people, companies, bots from abusing the current broken system. Win for ALL. It should have been like this from the very start. *Hugz from this Canadian gal 🤗🌻
A crazy thing I've found out about copyrighted music recently is that songs recorded at the turn of the century (over 100 years ago) on wax cylinders are currently copyrighted. Which I'm pretty sure should go against modern copyright law
Media companies: Now, our operation is small, and there is a lot of room for aggressive expansion, so witch one of you creators want to give us your money.
I wonder how much money these big companies are LOSING by wasting their time going after small creators? A sizeable number of claims are manually submitted over remixes and samples on videos that aren't making a lot of money anyway.
That's a great idea to help curb the abuse of the copyright system. Can't wait to copyright it and claim this video's revenue.
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Cancer Central2021-11-06 01:43:20 (edited 2021-11-06 01:52:43 )
17:40 The flaw with the 2nd improvement on the current system is that it can be easily bypassed by extending the video. Say, I want to upload an entire song that I do not own the rights to. Lets say its 3 minutes long, which is the typical length of a pop song. If the video were 3 minutes long and it got claimed, I'd lose 100% of the revenue. Fair enough.
But, if I upload that 3 minute song, and then have like 150 minutes (2.5 hours) of silence with a black screen, then I'd only lose 2% of the revenue. This is an easily exploitable weakness. The solution to this is to have advanced detection, context analysis and other bits of technical stuff. Basically, just a lot of clauses to that "The revenue taken from the video is proportional to the amount of time that it makes up the video" and other stuff.
An alternative to this is to have the amount of revenue that the claimant receives be proportional to how much of the clip was used, relative to its length. If I used 1 minute of that 3 minute song, they'd claim a third of the revenue. If I used all 3 minutes, they'd claim 100%, even if it is followed by 2 hours of silence and a black screen.
For multiple infringements in one video, each claimant would receive a slice of the revenue proportional to how much of their thing was used. If I used four 3 minute long songs in a video, they'd each claim 100% of the revenue. But of course, that wouldn't work. To solve this, you'd divide it evenly amongst them. Each claimant would therefore receive 25% of the revenue.
Sanctioned Stupidity Youtube deleted his channel, best friend went to prison, feel into a deep depression, and cheated on his girlfriend. He’s doing better now though.
Jesus christ, this was an incredible series. Well researched, engaging & interesting, and you didn't just spend the whole time just bashing YouTube. I actually walked away from this feeling sorry for them; they're stuck bang in the middle of outdated laws drafted specifically to print money for boomers, and the state-of-the-art cultural medium. They're not blameless in all of this, but I do sympathise much more with what they have to deal with, and those tweets and the recent policy changes makes it seem like they're trying.
It always seemed strange to me how the music industry could be so lucrative, but I and most people I know barely spend any money on music these days. Even Spotify lost over a billion dollars in 2017. These shady, backwater laws are exactly how the music industry is making that money, and pedalling the narrative of "it's to protect the artist" is exactly how they escape public scrutiny. It all makes sense now who the real goons are in this mess we've ended up in, and who would've guessed it was the biggest corporations of all.
Thank you for this series. You've done a great service documenting and presenting all of this.
Best, funniest, & most informative video I’ve seen this month. Keep it up Emp, we’re on the brink of revolution. Society won’t stand for Google’s tyranny much longer.
@Charaleet Yeah, umm... the only problem here is that I'm 99% sure the claimant is not acting on behalf of the country or its actual representatives, but in his own greedy interest
Yeah so my country's anthem is called "Tautiska giesme" and it was written in 1898 and it gets claimed by some company that I've never heard of and neither existed back in the day, nor wrote, nor published the anthem!
I like the idea of copyright abolition, if I spend 10 years proving a theorem in topology it would be criminal to charge for access to this theorem (academic journals cough cough), in a similar way I think that artists shouldn't monetize their art. We should just make art without trying to extract labor from others.
I just found out, that If you make a meme and put it under the comedy category, Youtube will let you use copyrighted music. the only drawback being the amount of people who will find it.
This whole series on the YouTube Copyright Metagame should be pushed to the front of the video pages of YouTube, Reddit, and other popular social media so that more people will be aware of this issue and possibly a movement will begin to counter it.
I’m anxiously watchin’ this with my mother, who used to work in copyright law(and now works in telecommunications) and has said that she disproves of me writing fanfics if I publish them(as in post them online), sitting right next to me.
I'm terrified. I'm terrified because civilization rests on the shoulders of its ancestors, but what do you do when the elderly wise men who are supposed to guide you and lead you are all out to rob you, fuck your wife and mom and ruin your country in the pursuit of sex, drugs and rock & roll? What do you do when the elderly who are supposed to keep the following generations going are precisely the ones getting in the way? It shakes me deeply. How did we let this happen?
You know the heads at YouTube have already considered this and have chosen to continue on the current path anyway. We all know that the copyright system on YouTube could easily have fixed been by now but they continue to ignore the people that made the platform what it is in exchange for big corporations $$$.
This is a dude who not only knows what's wrong but also how to fix it. You've got my vote!
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Alex Mint2020-07-09 08:05:59 (edited 2020-07-09 08:07:25 )
The even worse thing about "Happy birthday" is the tune was composed and published even earlier, and the rights didn't even belong to Warner and yet they still sued people despite not having the rights! "Happy Birthday" had been in the public domain for over a year before this video, but they continue to sue!
One thing that i hate the most of copyrights is the fact that a company can purchase the rights to something, completely drop it and not give the rights back to the owner, even though they are not using it. A good example is the show making fiends, an old nickelodeon cartoon about an evil girl who can make monsters and has complete control over a town, but is constantly annoyed by another, more cheery and happy-go-lucky girl that just wants to be friends. The show only had one season, and like what nick does to shows that don’t meet their absurd standards, canned the show, left it in it’s sister channel and never touched it since. Only thing is, the company still technically owns the copyright, so if the original show creator were to try to do anything with it, she’ll be fined over her own show. FiNeD oVeR HeR oWn ShOw! The whole thing pisses me off, and if the stars align and we actually get copyright laws changed, we should hope that there is a paragraph added where if the copyright owner does not use said copyright after a certain amount of time, the copyright will be nulified and will either be returned to the original creator, os simply left as free to use. As an upcoming animator, it scares the hell out of me to think that if i were to sell my copyright to someone, they could just can everything i did and plan to do, leave it all to die, and not even let me pick up the pieces to try and start again. I’d want to keep my time in trying to work on my show’s story and quality, not to trying to fight to get my right to use my own work that isn’t even being used back.
As much as I love watching your content, this stuff is depressing man. And I LOVE IT! don't get me wrong. I guess it's just another thing to wait for boomers to die out in politics over.
Would lobbying Congress to change the law (even if that is unlikely) be fair or just hypocritical? Or simply beating the media companies at their own game?
Me: spends hours on an original piece of artwork that happens to have an anime character in it Me: puts design on a tshirt website to try to make money off of my artwork Website: This piece of artwork has been claimed by [x] Me: are you kidding me?
@deidara _ but they are in it to 'help' people its not a bout money. kind of like how hospitals and any medical care can nickel and dime you to death cause they can hide how much it will really cost you until you get your bill...hey we wouldn't want transparency on that do we now cause reasons.
Really liked the series, but after wandering through YouTube recently, I wondered how cool it'd be if we got another Ascended soon just like in the beginning of 2018... but then again, seeing the thing is this series made me realize, that it's a pain the ass way more than it seems. Also, I don't wanna sound like those entitled assholes, who demanded Frying Dory two years ago... um, you know what, nevermind.
"Entrance of the Gladiators" op. 68 or "Entry of the Gladiators" (Czech: Vjezd gladiátorů) is a military march composed in 1897 by the Czech composer Julius Fučík.
>1897 >124 years ago >Still copyrighted
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Victor Damázio2021-05-09 23:57:12 (edited 2021-05-09 23:57:30 )
Actually, one thing is the copyright of the composition, the sheet music, another thing is the composition of the recording, hiring an orchestra to play the music, many recordings of classic public domain music are copyrighted and tricked people who used them.
I actually didn't know about this stuff. Thank you for teaching me about things that I didn't know and things that are probably still going to be valid when I grow up and start messing around with a video editor
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20:03 You could’ve used Carnival Night Zone from Sonic 3. Oh wait, that music has 7 notes from Michael Jackson’s “Jam” in it. SEGA can’t even re-release the game on newer consoles because of this.
@EpicZantetsuken Okay, that's less bad than I initially thought though. The way specific colors are patented and trademarked seem to be different between companies, and they only seem to really prevent competing companies or advertisers from encroaching on that "brand". I still think it's stupid though, because in my opinion the success of a brand should depend on the merit of the product or service it represents and not the shutdown of potential competitors. Though I'm not a corporate tycoon so what do I know about the morality of business right
Well, technically not fully true. As the 1993 prototype of Sonic 3 we have has music that would later be in the PC version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Sonic & Knuckles Collection).
@Vsus Here --- Hard Times is unreleashed song, so they can do re-release game with this song without trouble. (I can't say the same about Carnaval Night Zone)
Disney disgusts me,they arrested three people responsable for a club penguin server,they didn't make the game but won't give the rights to its original owners and creators,THIS HURTS THE ARTIST
Copyright should be a tool to stop against blatant stealing of people's creations. It should be the thing that stops 24 hour Family Guy reuploads, not hurt little Timmy who just wants to play Tony Hawk Pro Skater
You know what? I wanted to make unmonetized videos, playthrough, YTPS and discussions when I moved out. But now? I REAAAALLLY don't think so. I'm not sure that's what I wanna do, if just showing people how to play(and why I like) NSMB, talking about Darkwing Dark or making some random YTP in the heat of passion will get me sued.
Wishful thinking on my part completely but I just hope that eventually these mega-corporations get so overbloated with copyrights and ownerships that they end up collapsing when they "fly to close to the sun.".
10:17 In all fairness, during his life Prince was probably the most ruthless copyright enforcers in the entire art world. Plus, he had a huge repulsive response to anything involving the internet. Despite all the revenue and popularity he garnered due to the web, he never changed his mind on it.
My problem with trying to change copyright law is that the new law will be written by media conglomerates, for media conglomerates, and qe'd end up more screwed than we were before.
Shame the series is over. I was enjoying getting a feeling of hopelessness every time i was reminded of the fact that copyright machine broke. All jokes aside, a good format for your vids, looking forward to more.
I love how you actually break down the ideas of what really is happened to youtube. While actually giving real answers. Rather than peeing on yourself and whining that youtube is dead and shit.
I know this is outta the blue but I been watching for ages and am consistently blown away by your creativity and level of editing. Imo you are the goat youtuber.
I studied copyright law during my MBA. I specifically looked into the Apple vs Microsoft lawsuit, where Apple sued MS for stealing their 'look and feel'. Ironic, since Apple got its windows UI from PARC and Xerox. Anyway, Apple lost since copyright only covers EXACT copies.
Fair use is a section of the law that ought to be clarified since it's litigated all the time. Fair use involves 1) insignificant amounts of content; or 2) non-commercial use. Specify exactly how many seconds of a song or video may be copied for commercial use.
Then there are parodies and derivative works, which is most of the internet. These are free and clear of copyright law, since they are original expressions. Again, clarify the copyright law accordingly. How much must be derivative and parody? 50%? 10%? 25% Pick and number and write it into law.
I think, in theory, allowing content to be distributed to individuals rather than institutions is how we can change the system. Something like Patreon allows artists to distribute directly to their customers without interference. Something like that could free copyright from the iron grip of corporate machines.
I have to say the way you do your ad spots is truly unique! It's like you don't even change pace, you just keep right on blasting AS you're doing the spot for the sponsor...you, sir, are EPIC! ☺😂😁
@antlerman His opinion was basically that it was the law and that people everyone who got copyright claimed was abusing the copyright system. He was very one sided with his opinion.
@LGTheOneFreeMan he was doing a livestream on his channel of commenting ok boomer. Now anytime he leaves a legit message people are just going to assume hes spamming lol
EmpLemon, I would like to translate your videos for free obviously using my voice in order for you to get more public, I could translate them to Spanish because I think you deserve way more views, the quality of your content is amazing and it would be awesome for people who doesn't speak English to be able of seeing your amazing content! Also I could make subtitles if you want!
Imagine if once a property became a part of the public domain, it couldn't be copyrighted again. Even if Disney's copyright on Mickey Mouse somehow ended after 500 years, they would still be able to instantly buy it back, which just defeats the entire purpose of the law in the first place.
Some how, Emp's face reveal being a Joker cosplay for a wallet ad filmed on location at The Swamp at the University of Florida, feels very much on-brand.
emplemon is truly one of the most un-appreciated youtubers ever. although considering the state of youtube, being a 'youtuber' is more an insult than praise.
How exactly is he unappreciated? I really don't get these types of general comments. His videos have really good like/dislike ratios, high view counts and most of the viewers do appreciate his content. How is he underrated or unappreciated.
@jeccf he deserves what he has and nobody sabotaged his current numbers so he doesn't deserve more. When you deserve something it is because you accomplished something through your own effort and realized it all in an honest way or did something to warrant a cause and effect relationship (like commiting a crime and being arrested for it - you deserved to be arrested). Emp did what he did honestly and gained what he did thanks to that and there was no direct interference from any party. He deserves what he has, nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps you could say he deserves more money for his videos because the copyright law is implemented so poorly but that is not directly related to his sub-count and viewership.
There is perhaps an argument to be made about his unfair demonetization causing him to have lesser numbers thanks to the algorithm but this discounts everybody else on the platform that he would have had to compete with. That is definitely a point I can't accept or deny due to it being so hypothetical. As it currently stands I think he deserves what he has and that he is a great content creator and yes I would want more people to watch him but I don't think he "deserves" it. Hope I clarified my point in an understandable way :]
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What I think needs to be done is that claims can be put in court for free with the ceo a highly qualified, trained, and respected judge. Both sides use the law to argue that the claim was correct or that it never should of happened. If the person that got claimed won due to a correct and common sense decision than the thing that did the claim can never claim the person again even if they do something wrong. If the company wins they can do whatever they want with the video and the person if copied the content on purpose can no longer appeal a claim or if by accident could no longer appeal for a year. If the claim was made by someone who doesn't own the claimed property than they can no longer claim anything even if they go to own something and someone steals it than they can do nothing and the company that does own the property can not go and claim the video for the exact same thing. This would give companies less incentive to claim anything without proof without probably getting fired or punished severely, the person that was wrongly claimed can stay safe if they never did anything wrong and videos that use safe harbor would be safe, and the people that own nothing could no longer claim something they don't own. Also youtubes algorithm would change to show content that went through its own vastly upgraded software so people could use it and only block videos labeled for kids and content it deems is a low quality that would be reviewed by many common people before being stopped and it would be changed to correctly block infringements on the guidelines so everyone would be happy. The only way youtube could limit creates is if a high percent of viewers dislike and flag videos for the correct tags and some would be added to more correctly show why it was flagged and viewed by actual people before allowed to be cut off from people. People can also take down incorrect news articles about themselves if people find their claimed to be true and the person didn't watch their content. Anythig else stupid about youtube would end and people could finally be happy.
18:00 - Mostly agreeing here. However consider this case, a YouTuber uses 3 minutes of copyrighted material, then ends their video with 2 hrs of black screen. A proportional system may become just as prone to abuse by creators as the current system is abused by media companies.
If you want to start making audio-visual content today, stop. You will not see any benefit, and it will likely end in your bankruptcy for including the color green, which exists in someone else’s production. “That’s how the law works.”
how messed up is it that people hold copyright over a dead person's work? what if the artist who CREATED that material approved the edit had they been alive? it's unbelievable that companies can make decisions for the dead with nothing more than an old contract
Hey emp: to make this not a problem for the next generation, license your videos under Creative Commons. There's a button somewhere in the video settings.
Emp, YouTube doesn't want to improve the copyright system. It wants to strangulate the non-corporate entities off of the site and have a circlejerk with the IP megacorporations. I know you're already keeping an eye on other video sites, so it's not even you yourself I'm concerned with, more the people who see this video and will think there's a hope of anything like your suggestions being implemented.
Indeed, Corporations are the enemy and You-tube is a corporation. That's why CNN and Fox are pushed as legit news sources. And why Jonathon Pies "why Trump won" video is no longer the first search result.
I swear I wrote a whole essay about this copyright issue, thank God someone else has talked about extensions on copyright protection and how they're bullshit now
Part 1: YouTube copyright system is flawed because of faulty detection Part 2: YouTube copyright system is flawed because you can easily circumvent it Part 3: YouTube copyright system is flawed because copyright is flawed
Honestly, I'd argue that patents shouldn't get put on a pedestal as they often get abused in a similar way to copyright, creating and sustaining monopolies and oligopolies (via either them claiming the only ways to do it or them both infringing on the other's patents, which means suing results in a countersuit and mutually assured destruction), by giving big companies the means to go after small and medium size potential competitors and either squash them before they can grow to compete or just prevent them from ever existing until the patent is expired and the product potentially obsolete, while also discouraging innovation with the idea.
Both Patent and Copyright law need major reworks, with the former IMO maybe not even being necessary (with good anti-monopoly laws replacing it) while the latter needs a large scale reduction and a lesser degree of punishments.
Hey, just wanted to note that as an engineer, the patent system is near worthless too, and actually probably does far more harm than good. Pharmaceutical patents are probably the best example, they spend lots of time creating physiologically identical drugs and then pushing them to doctors as "the latest and greatest". But even elsewhere, it's easy enough to create something that's physically unique enough but functionally identical and steal someone's idea, with only giant corporations surviving in the trenches.
The fact is, after 50 years of giant corporations writing the laws they have to follow, it's no surprise the laws all help them. Laws exist to protect the existing structure of society, not for some abstract concept of "justice". If your channel threatens the structure of Disney, you will be made to conform - and the law is the tool to make you conform.
Copyright was always this evil. This is how copyright was intended to work. People tried to turn it against its nature and use it for good, but they couldn't contain it's evil. Copyright is unethical. Repeal Copyright.
"My father was a Youtube employee...and a fiend. And one night, he goes off greedier than usual. Mommy refutes the copyright claim to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not...one...bit. So, me watching, he takes the strike to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so downwards?" He comes at me with the copyright strike- "Why so downwards?" He sticks the strike in my mouth - "Let's put a claim on that video!"
Its kind of funny how copyright law has forced a resurgence of old classical music and old plays. In trying to protect new(ish) things it just made people use old things instead. Nobody here is a classical music fan but it certainly works in this format.
17:40 i just wanna point out a loophole in this argument that a copyright holders revenue on a video should be proportional to the amount of time the copyrighted material shows up. what's stopping someone from deliberately trying to make their videos as long as possible to increase their stake of the revenue by, say, inserting an hour-long black screen at the end?
5:07 but.. That's not how copyright works. Any creative work you make is automatically copyrighted. You can officially register your copyright, but that doesn't create the copyright.
I’ve finally found a safe haven hopefully this one will last longer than the last but with how wanted I am for singing happy birthday in public I’ll give it 2 weeks
The problem lies precisely in the fact that the law is administrated. The law should and shall serve the justice. Administration is but calculating profit. These things are contrary to each other.
To crush the metagame: > Become YouTube's top exec > State that, starting soon, everything posted on YouTube is owned by Google > Buy off Sony, Warner and Viacom with the royalties now in your possession > Make YouTube directly pay every channel that posts on its platform in a reasonable manner > Put everything in the public domain just for the lolz
What if you take an automated bot system that uses a group of servers that simultaneously use free VPN services to look like they are in different locations while uploading music all over the internet using bot mails and accounts and spreading it everywhere til the companies cant stop it.
I kinda wanna ask Bernie about copyright protection and his thoughts on shortening it.
@ahmost 22 all of his music is just remixes of fade he seemingly struck gold with it but i really wish he did something more than jsut make the same song, with the same structure, progression, over and over and over and over again whenever you hear any of his new music it just sounds exactly the same as anything else he ever put out
"Copyrights should function similarly to the patent system, by protecting small creators by getting run over by the corporate machine." Lmao no, that's not how patents work at all. Patents are weapons that companies use to sue other companies out of business. If you believe otherwise, it's because you've never been through the process of actually applying for a patent, and/or have never actually (tried to) read any patent recently approved by the USPTO.
First of all: I agree with the central point of this video completely. We desperately need a complete copyright reform. That said, I do see two problems with what is said in this video.
The first is when you talk about how you ended up "copyrighting" your song. I realize that this was basically an aside and not all that important to the point your were making. However, it is also completely wrong and perpetuates one of the most common misconceptions of copyright. You didn't copyright the song. You always had the copyright over the song because you made it. What you did do was register your copyright so you would be in a better position to assert that copyright (through - for example - cease and desist letters or law suits). Yes, Ridiculousness needs your permission to use your video. They always did. Yes, that show (and similar ones) are completely based on infringing on the copyright of those who are unlikely to have the means or willingness to assert it. If anything, that shows how broken the current copyright system is.
The other part that bothers me is the changes you want to be made by YouTube. It helps to understand what YouTube's position is. They are the ones distributing the videos you upload. You promise them that you own the copyright to what you upload. As the ones doing the distributing, they are the ones who can be sued by the actual copyright holders if you were mistaken {or lied) about owning the copyright. That's why they have filters to detect copyrighted content automatically and have the ability for copyright holders to flag content as being something they hold the copyright to.
It's also why they side with the claimant so often (and initially at the very least). The claimant can sue them if they don't respond to the claim and it turns out to be a valid one. On the other hand, they do not have an obligation towards the uploader, so taking a video offline or changing its monetization is not something they could ever be sued over.
In fact, the whole idea of ad revenue going to the copyright claimant just another way to do that: appease the ones who might sue them. They are based on the agreements that they have with people about this. This is all meant to balance their need (not getting sued) with their wish (not taking down videos in order to keep content creators happy).
That's why things like ad revenue sharing the way you suggest aren't really an option. YouTube can't impose rules on copyright claimants. All they can do is offer the claimant the ad revenue in exchange for the promise not to sue while the video is kept online. They could offer less of the revenue, but the claimant is the one that decides in the end. If they refuse, the result will likely be that the video is taken down instead, because YouTube will definitely choose that over the risk of getting sued. You're right that it's unfair. But you cannot blame YouTube for that. It's the copyright claimants and the underlying copyright system we have that cause the unfairness...
(And as a final note, "Happy Birthday" actually is in the public domain and did not leave it (which also means that people singing it did not infringe on such a copyright). A big, powerful and rich company bullied people into believing that they held the copyright. They did this by threatening to sue people who used the song without paying them royalties. Because it was a large company with lots of funds, most people just paid or avoided the song all together. Of course, that served to lend more credibility to their copyright claim. Eventually, someone challenged their claim, and a few years ago, it was finally ruled that the company was unable to prove its claim to the copyright over either the lyrics or the melody, essentially making the song free to use again. Yep, it's once again a tale of the failure of the current system...)
You know what's fucking sad, I completely forgot that copywrite over work is not supposed to last forever. I really hope that when I create worlds and characters, regardless if I'm actually good at it, it'll be in the public domain in 10 or 15 years so people can use it and mess with it all they want to, change it and make their own stories out of it.... hopefully by then we have changed the law more so that big companies can't just claim it forever... I'm honestly really fucking depressed that if the law was different, we could have free access to some of our favorite creations growing up.
Also Disney: I found an anime not that many people know about in the US. Let's steal it and to hide we did, we'll sue them when they try to come to the US. The world will never know.
How about before Youtube was bought out/sold it's soul, corporations were caught uploading their own copyrighted content just so they could attack Youtube.
A law that goes un-enforced is just words on a paper, sitting in a file cabinet gathering dust. A law that is over-enforced is an abusive mockery of the legal system.
Unfortunately, the money which the big media corporations get from unfairly claiming videos is very lucrative, and any changes to the broken system will not benefit them financially, so as things stand, no positive changes will be made.
I agree with this video but I gotta say. I still buy CDs to get music lol.
1st option is from the merch booth of the band since this seems to put the most money into the pockets of the bands I'm supporting. 2nd option is from a local or small chain record store like Zia Records here in the Southwest.
The part that really gets me about this whole situation is that a lot of the actual song writers and character designers employed by these companies couldn't care less about copyright laws.
So I appreciate the idea of having a "more fair" system that's sensitive to the needs of youtubers, buuuuuut
The problem with reform is that half measures in the right direction tend to take the wind out of the sails for more radical change. Your suggestion still empowers large corporations to engage in automated grift using YTs tools. I mean, first of all it's strictly worse in the short term for copyright holders to only make percentages of ad revenue for claimed content, instead of the whole pot, so there's basically no incentive for them to advocate for that. Regardless, if it became clear that public sentiment was against these exploitative practices and things were gonna have to change, this is exactly the sort of face-saving self-interested reform that large rights holders would throw their weight behind.
There is no "win win" - there rarely is when it comes to public policy and high dollar private interests. The copyright vultures must lose one way or the other. If you're on the side that says they deserve to, might as well go all the way.
Minor, insignificant point to make: Vinyl record sales are in a resurgence right now, mostly because of hipsters and people buying as a collector's item of sorts. Obviously streaming platforms are the dominant force of the industry, but it's an interesting facet of the state of music.
while i agree for the most part, how will reducing the copyright protection time help? sorry if i am wrong but cant they just renew or reapply for whatever entity got released from protection?
i just need to stress to the fellow humans that's adult enough to understand. this does not make communism okay. that's like setting your house on fire for having mismatching colours on your curtains.
I said the exact same thing about the Beatles. Had the copyright laws of now been in effect in the USA and the UK during the late 50s, pretty much every band we remember today from then wouldn’t exist.
Susan's sister is married to the guy who owns Google. Susan totally got the position because she knows how to run Youtube, and not at all because of the nepotism of a burgeoning trillion-dollar techno-aristocracy.
Those who abuse the law, deserve none. BTW, public domain isn't dead — it's just prone to Disneyfication. And there currently standing legal systems allow for no space inbetween copyright and public domain. For starters, we need a sticky noncomercial license with no attribution required legally available.
I genuinely do not think they will EVER budge on this subject. Unfortunately, this is the way of things to be Royal one must have royalties. In the same way peasants farmed the land and gave all their bounty to the king who redistributed it, much is the same with media and they'll run it into the ground before ever making it 'fair and equitable'. Seriously. Still, this video is simply fucking amazing and I couldn't agree more with your perspective.
the best part is that nobody can do anything about it without out-bidding disney whem it comes to lobbying. and that is LITERALLY impossible. So yes, the public domain is dead! Rejoice corporate overlords!
This is the equivalent of ranting on Facebook to all your similar interest friends. No problem fam I'll go change my copyright strategies after all I'm John Corporation.
Copyright for music is kind of tricky in itself. But for classical music it depends on who recorded the piece. Original works aren't recorded so record labels have the upper hand in that regard.
This is one of the reasons why during my time at Cypress College I arranged my own classical orchestra library for content creators. Among other original works.
It's up on my royalty free playlist here on YouTube and SoundCloud. I never really cared how you downloaded it. And since nearly 8 years ago people have made foreign websites dedicated to ripping and redistributing my early musical works. I'm no big major company so I really didn't care if my works were distributed behind my back. I always saw that as a compliment among even being noticed.
man this series used to be actual informational on how to slightly help people with trying to fix the situation in place and it's turned into another complain fest. Yeah you could say "oh but the system will get worse and this advice wont help soon" but it's better than just complaining, the whole fucking site has been doing that and look how far it's gotten
An idea I have for a revised copywright law, and bear with me becuase I have no knowledge on laws besides "drugs and killing bad", is that once the creators/copyright holders make a certain amount of profit from the media they don't have control over how it's used outside of official retail areas/websites. Of course this means that people who make things for free dont own their own thing but in those cases people just want the recognition from making the thing itself, but maybe this law could have an addendum so different people in the same boat dont get fucked over, like in Rusty Cage's case, if such a thing in law exists. if it doesnt than i have no idea what to do and i dont plan on becoming a politician anyway
The craziest thing that is happening to copyright is how youtube is allowing people to break the law. Technically, a content creator owns the copyright of said content the moment it is officially made real. Registering copyrights only puts things on the books and is not required for ownership. If someone else registers the copyright before the creator, that register is invalid. With that information, YouTube has frequently let criminals fraudulently claim copyright that they don't actually own with no repercussions because the system makes it so easy to do so.
Essentially copyright is responsible for the dank meme singularity that has been thrust upon the user experience if anyone making use of a digital platform
Maybe this is a bit much, but I might go as far to say that these big corporations and their tactics to make all the money go to them has held back society more than almost anything in all of human history
11:15 I have song an bootleg Finnish translated version of the song. lol. But no birthday song is anything compared how much copyright law I break. It's also pretty cool to think that many people singing the song don't even know what the copyright law is. Btw I am still kind of confused on how exactly copyright law translates across countries, Because I do not live in USA.
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Apple Of Doom2019-12-15 01:23:51 (edited 2019-12-15 01:28:56 )
American copyright sounds so messed up. I know here in Australia as soon as you create a piece whether it's art, music or anything inbetween, it is automatically protected from copyright. No patent or copyright approval needed.
Also, in Australia a piece is covered for the ENTIRETY OF A PERSONS LIFE PLUS 50 YEARS before falling into the public domain, and this cannot be altered in ANY WAY.
Another thing to add: I'm not sure this exists in America, but in Australia we have something called appropriation. What this means is that as long as you build upon the original piece your new piece is protected by copyright. This means that YTP's and the like are legally protected in Australia. Same goes for sampling music.
There should be a way to come right out and admit that "I don't own the song. Please put an ad on this and pay those who do." That way if someone makes a lyrics video, the right people get paid without a copyright strike.
What I find incredibly stupid is if it can get caught by the content ID system, then why the hell when you upload a video can't you get... "Youtube has detected this song by this artist at this time stamp: [tick all that apply] 1. This is incorrect. 2. I am the copyright holder. 3. I am licenced to use the copyrighted material. 4. Use of this copyrighted material is covered under the Fair Use exception. 5. Other - Including disputed claims, incorrect attribution, and issues of jurisdiction (please specify) 6. I would like to licence this copyrighted work for a one time limited use in this video (Free for up to 100,000 views per year and $20 flat rate for non-monetized videos or 2% gross revenue share for monetized videos).
And why when someone files a copyright claim, can't you get something along the lines of?
"Please submit this claim to be arbitrated by an independent 3rd party for a $25 fee (refunded if your appeal is upheld). Be aware making a false claim about copyright is a crime. A ruling by Youtube does not establish the fact of any copyright by law. Either party may still choose to file a legal claim in court under the DMCA, although failure to dispute an infringement when notified (within a reasonable period) may constitute consent to the specified use."
That would be sane and fair for everyone but the problem is these giant corporations don't care so much about the money (in these nickel and dime cases) but rather they don't want to establish any kind of legal precedent or surrender one single iota of their legal rights just in case it somehow massively matters in the future. I think they're concerned that copyright might go the same way as trademark law with a use it or lose it provision.
Pretty sure I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum politically given your example of a "radical" but goddamn not only do I hate copyright laws, I also hate the "giant media corps." I just want small business and small government goddammit. The US needs to open up the antitrust laws and start taking care of these massive conglomerates. Disney and Google come to mind
@LordVader1094 heres the funny thing, the article sounds suspiciously unsure about what it'll be. and the mockup looks like someone did it in powerpoint. so i'm sure that they just wanted the phrase, no matter how much they have to lie
Completely unrelated to the video, but i think something's wrong with YouTube (more than usual anyway). I've heard of people being mysteriously unsubscribed from YouTubers before, but it's never happened to me personally. However, just this morning i saw that i was unsubscribed from both Real Life Lore and EmpLemon, so idk what that's about.
"I don't see people rushing to relive public lynchings" I meeeaan... So long as the courts continue to ignore high crimes from the elite while punishing kids for having some weed, yeah, I know a lot of people that would love to take the law into their own hands.
I had a conversation with a musician a while ago who made the points that "he just wants to make sure he can live off his creations" and "wants to make sure his children will be able to as well" and then he whined about how hard it is to compete with piracy because it's free. While I didn't agree, I respected his opinion and refrained from confronting him about it.
Having now heard the original premise of copyright law of course his point seems completely ridiculous, but it demonstrates that the misuse of it runs so deep that it doesn't even get picked up on anymore. Not resting on your laurels, my ass.
ridge wallets are great but way too expensive, you can get the same thing on amazon for 15 bucks instead of 70, emp should put an amazon affiliate link to those instead
The only thing i can see that would be a problem with copyright holders receiving a percentage of the earnings from a video as a whole is if some schlob decides to create a video where the copyrighted material is featured someplace within the video but the rest of the video could be anything else, stretched for hours even, of something not even remotely substantial like a blank canvas or non copyrighted visual to fill to the void. Like it or not i don't think that'll ever become a viable means of compromise in the youtube copyright landscape.
Copyright really has always confused me. In about every single instance, excluding full length unaltered copyrighted content, a copyright claim has done absolutely NOTHING to help the claimant, the claimed, nor the root problem. A clip or a portion of your content used by youtubers or simply by regular people making memes has ALWAYS, ALWAYS had a major impact on the popularity of that piece of content. If "Dragostea din tei" or the guy who danced to it, the "Numa Numa" guy, went around and pushed fair use laws on every video, neither the song nor the video would have gotten nearly as popular. Another example would be how Nintendo approached copyright with most of their games. They were very much opposed to let's players making content off their game on youtube, meanwhile actual developers and marketers with more than 2 working synapses in their brain PAID youtubers to make a let's play of their game. Eat the rich, eat the old, eat copyright laws, eat my ass
Who do these videos not have more than 5 mil views? And why doesn’t EmpLemon not have over a million subscribers? Great work and great video overall. Very helpful and important
Most of my music is uh...pretty illegal then. Of course I want to copyright it, but While its completely original composition-wise, I'm not sure if its possible to get it copyrighted since its almost 100% sampled.
Toilet paper was invented in 1891. This is the most informative and valuable part of the video to me. It's eerie how recent in history that is. Toilet paper has only existed for 118 years. Before that, in tens of thousands of millions of years of human evolution, nobody had even conceptualized toilet paper. They just accepted that, after they poop, there was nothing to wipe with, and nobody thought about it.
Sadly, patents don't really work like you said. They're mostly used by pharmaceutical corporations to sell cheaply produced medicine at an inflated price, while small inventors really don't have the resources to pay the patent lawyers and engage in court battles lasting years. Jörg Sprave has a pretty good video about the small guy's perspective on patents.
Also, the 21 years are pretty easy to get around. They change the product enough that they can patent it as a new product, but little enough that if someone tries to produce the older version, there's enough similarities to sue them. This shouldn't really work, but the fact that the megacorporations have enough money for lawyers while their smaller would-be competitors really don't makes it work.
reminder that apple keeps the patent for circular pizza boxes in their dragon pile of patents, and worlds corp literally patented the concept of an mmo, has sued all of the big companies with mmos like blizzard... and they win. fucking insane.
@Frank B The corruption of intellectual property is horrible for everyone, except the super rich. It's honestly disgusting how much money can be made by "owning" an idea someone else tought of 50 years ago. These laws were supposed to help people get recognized for their work and make money from it, thus encouraging innovation and competition. Now, they're the weapons of ancient and huge corporations. These corporations wield them against the very people who are supposed to do the innovating by keeping ideas that should be public domain by any reasonable metric behind closed doors. This, besides killing competition, also gives them the ability to slowly raise prices while degrading quality. Who are you gonna turn to? Our up-and-coming competitors? The ones going bankrupt because we sued them into the ground? I don't care where you are on the political compass. If you lean left, hate this because it's used to concentrate power in the hands of the bourgeoisie while keeping the rest down. If you lean right, hate it because it kills the very free market that these companies owe their existence to. The people in charge of them believe in nothing except growing and maintaining their own power and money.
i feel like the corporate are about to reach a limit with the live action mulan and nintendo's switch being the last console, and friday night funkin expandong off of minecraft mods and undertale games/music and gary's mod with making your own crap and remaking the copryrighted stuff to avoid it's grasp but i have to say it's not exactly the step against but i feel like it can help with that with it being less tied to a theme or format
Heh, This is why you should read the "Ego Book" (The Ego and His Own) by Max Stirner and "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. Copyright law is ultimately a spooky phantasm created by the ruling capitalist class as a way of rent-seeking for something that they mostly-likely didn't create or had a hand in creating. Not only that, it's also about power, if the rich and powerful can control the culture, they are able to send out their messages and propaganda more easily because they have almost unlimited power and a huge proverbial microphones (News Channels, Organizations, Movie Studios) that the average person doesn't not, so the ideas of the capitalists are the ones that get heard and accepted by the majority.
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The Plains Jam2019-12-14 03:16:25 (edited 2020-03-01 18:04:48 )
What Needs to Happen with Copyright: -Music sampling needs to be considered fair use -Duration time needs to be cut down to 60-70 years -Fan works should probably also be considered fair use (Although i'm not sure) -Revenue Sharing with copyright holder and the user who used the copyright (again, not sure how this would work in Youtube's case) -Video Sharing Sites should be more diligent to point out what fair use is and isn't. (Edit: I change my opinion this rule. Safe Habor basically makes this impossible)
How'd this be? -Everything is fair use except uncreative rips that have no derivative merit. -Appeals get reviewed by a jury of random, authentic users with incentives to make correct judgements. Only authentic users that prove their genuine activity have a right to have this. -Claimants must be authentic in some way, too. -False claims revoke the right to claim for a period of time.
Kendell well okay, let’s actually test this hypothesis. Let’s say I upload a compilation of clips from a certain show that have no commentary. They’re placed in a top ten order or anything, they’re cuts up from the show. Would this be considered fair use?
The Plains Jam patents are 20 years. 30 makes it so copyrighted stuff can expire within a lifetime, which is good, because then the author/media conglomerates can’t really on the safe stuff for all their life, and are obligated to create new original IPs. This also means that authors can use copyrighted stuff in the public domain that came out when they where alive and thus has still at least some cultural relevance. Not a lot of stuff is that interesting from 70 years ago.
@Woo Six I don't agree. Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue. 30 years, although seems like a long time, in reality isn't. I mean like the 1990s were 30 years ago and almost seems like they were still 20 years ago. Somethings take a bit more time to generate a good amount of money or popularity. Having the copyright time be 60, 70 or hell even 50 years would give the copyright holder enough time for the product to make money and have other creators use these stories later on in the future.
@The Plains Jam 1970s is certainly the forgotten and unappreciated nostalgia of this decade and last decade. arguably the 80s too, to a much lesser degree. so 40-50 years is adequate though. the fans and creators inspired by the work of that time now can offer a new look, a different perspective a modern piece completely separated from the olde times.
still, why do you believe that 60-70 years is suitable, considering it covers the entirety of an authors lifespan (assuming one made it when she's 20)? imagine living off the monetary compensation in your retirement — is this reasonable that you're cockblocked by some hag that made something before your parents ever born, punishing your new rendition and artistic work (or bootleg)?
i don't like the attitude of limiting a form of creative work in the span of half a century. However, seeing the current length of copyright only makes me weep so any improvement is acceptable. 40 years should be enough to milk a franchise dry to the bones, and punish everyone else's creativity or lack thereof. personally though, i would rather avoid companies abusing that single success product to the point of boredom uncreativity. and 40-50 years is already long enough that people have move onto new styles and expressions of creativity.
@DawnPraiser So, when it comes to making my argument for this, I usually think about the company or person first before anything else. I think that 60-70 years is adequate simply because it gives the creator a great amount of time for their creation to make money and for the creation to somewhat be relevant in the public eye so that people can use the property when it goes public domain. For example, a new hope is about 43 years old, if we were to go by my guidelines, it would be public domain in about 23 years from now which would be 2043. It does seem like a long while, but being such a cultural icon it would stay pretty relevant for a long while.
@The Plains Jam when i think about copyright, i first pay attention to how much and how long should an entity hold the right to control, restrict and profit from their content. however, your points regarding cultural and creative relevance in the eyes of the public or consumers strikes me odd.
happy birthday is a cultural icon ingrained within the English language for as long as a century and a couple decades. even today, and i think for decades to come, happy birthday will be sung by children, kids and ecstatic parents on their child's birthday. should the descendants of the holder of happy birthday own the right to control and restrict the derivative work of a 100+ years old work? not to mention the fact that these descendants have nothing to do with the musical composition itself, although it's culturally relevant.
i don't think cultural relevance should play a part that large as to lock any creative derivatives for a whole generation. although rare, cultural relevance itself can last as long as possible and theoretically spanning centuries. so basing the expiration of copyright ownership completely on cultural relevance sounds completely bogus if content can last as long as centuries (consider religion, written text, arts from past civilisations still inspiring artists today). i think you'll agree with me on this hence why you chose a new hope.
where should we draw the line for when a creative work should enter a domain? both yours and mine are completely arbitrary choices. mine based on assuming that someone makes content in his/her 20s and no longer can profit off royalties from it after his/her 60-70s. additionally assuming that someone in his/her 10-20s would no longer be satisfied with nostalgia after his/her 50-60s/60-70s if not already forgotten.
@DawnPraiser Well that's just it. The timescale is completely arbitrary and non-objective. I can just as easily say that every copyrighted work should never go into the public domain forcibly and have that be valid. I'm just basing my number on security than anything else. I'd rather have my content be commercially viable for atleast a couple decades just ensure that it makes a profit that i'm satisfied with.
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blue knight2020-04-17 06:27:19 (edited 2020-04-17 18:13:36 )
The Plains Jam that profit security sounds like welfare and do people even live that long when life span varied when renewing copyright isn't that hard to do 60-70 it's at best ridiculous edit:I take that back when a copyright can be renewed a company like disney will still abuse it heck thats what they are doing to the mouse I just believe you need to be reasonable over the period of copyright before it become public domain
@The Plains Jam So if you ask me to bring you a few slices of pie, I should give you six or seven slices? Out of eight?
I think seventy years of copyright protection is ludicrous. Most IPs have a shelf life of about a decade or two, unless they're owned by one of the three HUGE conglomerates; in which case, an IP can be sequel'd, rebooted, and spinoff'd indefinitely. They're their most popular in the first year or so, then get some longevity out of merch sales, maybe conferences if it's a REALLY big IP. When they stop making money, what's their value to the copyright holder except as a way to rent sit, and make sure nobody can use those settings and characters to tell new stories? (Nevermind that fan fiction is a thing, and this happens all the time without people getting stuffed by copyright holders; and the copyright holders either don't care or aren't aware, because fan fiction doesn't impact their bottom line.)
Seventy years is the greater part of anybody's lifespan. To reference your earlier example of citing "A New Hope", I actually had some ideas on how you could fix the "Star Wars" prequels. I'd also be eighty before "Revenge of the Sith" would enter public domain. So, what would be the point? I could maybe bask in a decade of my earned wealth before dying - or drink myself out of shame to an early grave - and then nobody could give their take on my take until 2145 - nearly a century and a half after the original rendition.
As a guy trying to make video games, I'd be happy for my IPs to enter the public domain after about thirty years post publication. That's plenty of time for that initial sales boom, plus retro sales after twelve to fifteen years. Assuming it didn't flop on arrival; and even so, I'd be fine with releasing an IP nobody cared about into the wild to see whether or not someone else would pick it up and see if they could fix it.
The problem I think everyone has with your perspective is that it's not got sufficient justification. You say this: "Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue." It's not wrong on principle, but that reasoning can only stretch so far. Certainly not "infinitely into the future", like one of your posts suggested. Contrary to what you think, validity requires validation, and you can't even convince people that seventy years is an okay time frame.
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The Plains Jam2020-04-23 18:43:55 (edited 2020-04-23 21:15:38 )
@Filthy Casual I feel like a lot of people aren't understanding what I mean by "duration." When I'm talking about 60-70 year number, I'm talking about if the holder wants to RENEW that copyright. I don't know any small holder who would want to renew their property for another 35 years unless it did reach to the status of Star Wars. The 60-70 is not a guarantee, it's just choice.
Also, I don't like this argument of "new ideas can come to franchises from before". I do like to see different interpretations of properties (this is why I was excited for Brightburn even though it was a mediocre movie), but I think stories inspired by those properties can turn out even better than just doing imaginings. Like for example, Undertale is largely inspired by Earthbound and RPGs like it. Would Undertale be as remembered today if it was simply a retelling of Earthbound, or another sequel not from Shigesato itoi? I'm not opposed to different people reimaging or adding to other ideas in stories (this is why I recommend we make fanfiction fair-use), but I think it's overall better that we can be inspired by the ideas of past content to make something new. People remember the story the wizard of oz, but no one remembers the other books written by other people no matter how good they are. Everyone knows about Tarzan of the apes, but not the other books by different people that came after. Most people don't know what the fuck Flash Gordon is, but you bet your sweet ass they know what Star Wars is which was one of the inspirations of star wars. Would Star Wars be a bit hit if it was a massive reimaging of flash gordan?
@The Plains Jam bring that down to patent like amount for small works (pretty much anything), and a authors lifetime for bigger works (fantasy universes, etc.). It should be pretty fair that way.
15:26 true Congress dosnt want to try and solve actual problems when they can just fuck around with trying to impeach trump while living the lives of billionaires
Oh boy, wait till this guy realizes just how terribly the patent system also works. Literally the exact opposite as how you described it. Look it up. Both copyright and patent laws are a serious mess.
Remember when he did a rant about his viewerbase? Remember when he did a dank meme montage? Remember when he complained? Remember when he did a youtube poop? EmpLemon constantly metamorphozises
6:52 speaking about Disney and Mickey Mouse, i have to say something here, i'm from Paraguay, and in here we have a company of condiments and spices that's literally called Mickey that uses the face of Mickey Mouse, Disney of course took action, but lost several times, the company is still living to this day.
The frequent talk of corporatism, muddled edits of copyrighted content, looped video, and general mood of anger and fucked up. This would be a nightmare to watch on acid
Spoiler: patent systems don't work either and are mainly useful for big companies to sue each other for big money and keep legit competition from entering the market. If you're an inventor with a patent and someone infringes your patent, you have about 2/3 chances that the patent will not protect you, and you're sure to waste time and money.
Remember that big corporations are causing most of these copyright woes, and also remember that youtube/google is one of those big corporations. We need to stop seeing youtube as an ally here.
I actually went to the description dropdown the moment that I saw that downward spiral solely because I thought that I'd find some sort of teespring sticker.
How would Disney songs that get remade be handled? Since the new Aladdin re used songs, does the copyright get extended on the song, or it's a new copyright that only applies to that particular version/performance in the new movie.
Hope this isn't a stupid question, but I just had a thought.
Anyone else notice the downward spiral and YouTube’s copyright laws(And About all copyright laws) are very similar to 40k’s The Warp? It’s just utter chaos and ridiculousness
Yesterday I uploaded a Private day video showcasing movie trailers (personal use), I clearly stated that I own NONE of the content used in the video nor the music used. I immediately got 26 copyright claims.
EmpLemon is now a nifty minimalist wallet salesman.
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Lord Jackass2021-12-17 19:08:10 (edited 2021-12-17 19:23:11 )
This is wildly fascinating. Modern copyright and modern social activist groups share a lot of commonality, but they each strive to achieve the same results, just using opposite methods of each other, and neither of which are consistently critical of each other; it's almost as if they:
--don't know of each other(pretty unlikely, but worth considering). --have disguised their agendas to each other. or --have a mutual understanding or deal with each other(though i'll acknowledge that to label it as a deal lands this hypothesis firmly in the realm of conspiracy theories.).
Both social activist groups and copyright were started on the principles of: Equity, Equality, and Stability. But as the years became decades, each gradually became a disgusting parody of what they once represented, they each went so far as to become the very thing the founders of each of these ideas fought against; It always blows my fucking mind to smithereens how the irony was achieved on this grand of a scale...
So when are we going to agree that the big corporations will one day be mere footnotes in our grand grand grand childrens history books, only two or three pages away from the lecture subjects about the cold war? They won't stay on top forever.
You know, it's funny. While I was watching Cartoon Network in 2016, I saw that Teen Titans Go had a birthday episode for Beast Boy, where he turns into a baby because the other Titans never celebrated his birthday. They try to get him back through another dimension and the first thing they had to do is to sing a birthday song. But when Cyborg began the song, Robin stopped him because he said the song was copyrighted. I thought it was a way to put in filler. But then, a month later, Regular Show had an episode on creating a new birthday song. I was skeptical at first and thought that they're filling in nothing for time, but when I found this video a year ago, I was shocked, disappointed, and filled with rage. And now I'm in a world where I don't have to draw anything that is free to use, and one day will be struck with copyright strikes. I bet that this problem effects everything else as well, like social media and the communities like the art community. So all I can say is, whoever says that they copyright their work and tell them to do not repost, use or anything else with it without permission and giving credit, suck my d*ck and go f*ck yourselves, because copyright law is a joke and I will fight any of you who will give me permission to take it down.
as a musician i think copyright law should Not Be That Intense its stupid. if someone wants to use my music it shouldnt cost a fortune or get their art censored lol. if you like my work enough to cover or use it then hell yeah
When re-watching this, I got the old spice add (the settler one). The add that started off with a phrase that has the word "curse" in it. And it was like this is the tale of a cruel curse or sum. SO IT WAS REALLY FUNNY AND FOR A MINUTE I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE VID XD
I'd just like to point out that the patent system is also currently broken, and has lead to, among other things, life-saving medication like Insulin being monopolized for decades on end.
I'm gonna say something blasphemous here (tbh I would love to agree wholeheartedly with the video, the death of public domain is scary). While I understand that the use of copyrighted content advances culture and art, doesn't creating totally new content at the same time promote, an advancement in culture and art? Well. Then again tiktok considers itself on the brink of trends...maybe im just missing something with the original statement.
The fair copyright you're talking about which helps society in any way is not a reality. We could argue though about whether "fair" copyright has any use today knowing that if someone copy pasted someones work he would probably be cancelled into oblivion by the horde of angry fans of the original artist. The copy hurts most the original author when nobody knows it was a copy in the first place but now with internet it's easier to know who did what.
I have a similar complaint about book copyright. I thought of creating an app using the text of an old essay. I thought the copyright of text expires after 50 years of the publication. But oh no, it was freaking 70 years after the author's death. Why does it have to be so long? Who benefits from it? 70 years after the author's death means that even the author's grandson is a very old guy who is about to die himself. I can understand that the author's child could earn money from his father's novel, but why do his grandchild or grand grandchild? In my opinion, maybe 30 years after the author's death is enough for copyright.
So I did what I do best. I took your little copyright system and turned it on itself.
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Lord Friedrick2019-12-14 14:21:22 (edited 2020-07-07 17:14:54 )
How to summarize the video Media corp: Hey! EmpLemon drank from a public fountain! I claim the fact that he drank from a public fountain, even if i don't own any water company i drank from it one time, so i'm legally entitled to claim the entire fountain!
Whether you want to use “Why So Serious?” or “Call Me Joker” for a silly Joker meme opening, copyright will tell you “NO” and force you to use a stock rising violin
Even that's being too generous, because it implies an honest chance to prove your innocence. When claimants are judge, jury, and executioner, you're already deemed guilty regardless of proof.
like any youtube that talks about drugs (not showing consumption, only education) will tell you, it's not only the copyright system... youtube as a whole is working against many creators and many don't even see it as "broken"... and i think this too, it's totally working according to plan.
Someone watched your stuff and asked you to personally run their ad in your voice. That's pretty amazing but funny enough Youtube seems to encourage personal deals rather than test what's "ad friendly"
To be honest, I doubt they watched, they probaly say the subscribers number, regular views number, and thought: "Yeah, it's reasonable size channel" and tried to make a deal.
Me:*coughs like a character from a Disney movie in a big documentary video about the history of internet who got a lot of views and a big ad revenue* Disney: You moron! You made me rich!
Take note how this video only has 416,372 views. This implies that Youtube has demonetized the video and/or has censored it across the platform. This upsets me as this video has valuable insights and great suggestions in spite of being the "rant" video. Youtube, please come back and watch this video and take notes! What he's saying makes sense!
"Hah! Microsoft lackeys! So it has come to this! A night of blood I've long awaited. But be this my death or yours, free software will carry on! For a GNU dawn! For freedom!"
Regarding characters falling into the public domain, trademark law is a huge problem nowadays. All the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs are in the public domain at this point, but the name "Tarzan" is still trademark protected.
This video makes me feel like when I was making YTP, those were my punk days, and now my videos don't have any secondary sources so I'm just a stuffy nine-to-five office worker.
Implying that we won’t end up in a similar situation, with a few millennials/gen Z/whoever’s next being groomed to accept things as they are now and perpetuate the current situation because it benefits them... I really hope that I’m just being pessimistic without justification here.
The oligarchs who manipulated gullible boomers are already in charge, and will merely pass the torch to their ideological successors, it's not going to magically fix itself when boomers die.
@DrewPicklesTheDark Nah, but ideology shifts over time as cracks appear in the system. Nothing is forever and more and more people such as my life are going to become aware and do everything in our power to ruin this system.
You want a quote? “There is no scarier feeling than to wake up one morning and realize that your high school class is running the country.” Kurt Vonnegut. You decry the boomer, but most “boomers” as we see them are actually Gen X’ers by this point. Pretty soon it will be Gen Y’s turn up on stage for the zoomers to decry them as the root of all evil, the barrier to real progress. History repeats itself, is what I’m trying to say. As the boomers once were to the Lost and Greatest generations, so are we now, and as the boomers are now, so shall we be.
A note about the end of the video, entry of the gladiators itself isn't copyrighted but the performance of it is. so you could just use a midi of it or something.
Man I don’t wish economic catastrophe on most companies but I wouldn’t bat an eye if Disney’s stock prices and profits took a massive plunge for a while
Nintendo jumped down from copyright and the only thing you can’t do is upload music with nothing else. But they are actually really chill on that as well.
My creativity is being stifled by not being allowed to freely use Luke Skywalker. Now I have to create my own characters and that just isn’t in the spirit of creativity.
If Copyright Law would be reformed, this platform would be worse off. Just look what the EU Parlament thought to be a good addition to Copyright Law. Youtube would have straight up filter everything that you upload beforehand in order to comply with that law.
All IP laws serve only to protect corporations, this belief that they protect small artists is completly false. They were DESIGNED to do this. All IP laws should be abolished. (as well as the state)
I think the worst reason to keep copyright law at such long lengths yet the hardest reason to fight against is "they created it, why shouldnt they have the right to say who can and cant use elements from it"? It's a really shitty excuse, but fights for individual freedoms at the same time. They claim that having copyright law last only 28 years is BS because they seriously think that you have every right to rest on your laurels, yet whenever it is brought up that doing so inhibits creativity, the excuse is "well then be more creative and dont base your works on other works", which is also difficult as shit to argue against. Regardless, copyright law needs to be set back to how it was before these greedy companies lobbied congress.
Nice to know that you’re a Florida guy. It took a while but I figured you went, or are going to, the University of Florida from the football stadium you shot your live action clown piece. One of my brother’s friends is a Florida fan. Then again, that makes sense because of how you also got footage from Daytona in your Dale Earnhardt video.
Look, it's a good video and all, certainly a much needed information dump for a very complicated topic, but I feel like you are making an excuse for youtube. I mean, yes the law is outdated by more than a decade, but youtubes execution of that Copyright, is really like you said the worst. I mean, in what way, can youtube excuse itself, when this Copyright Problem existed already so long and youtube has since then progressed next to nothing. In fact I am pretty sure it regressed and yet, Nobody thinks that maybe some Form of human Interaction at some Point would be helpful. Seriously, how can you fuck up so often in the same way and still Not be Out of the race?!
How about those classic songs from centuries ago that are still copyrighted cause what is copyrighted is the execution of the song and not the song instead?
What about real life copyright?! I guess Walt disney is smiling in his kryotube that his movies are his for another 100 years. Well probably longer if the extend the time period again. Such a bs.
Faintly editing a movie clip is considered normal for a Youtube poop and the pooper will generally be credited as having transformed the work enough for it to be considered their own, if only by the standards of the pooper community.
In the visual arts, the standards are much stricter. Originality is held so high as a virtue and is therefore at such a premium that even if every single last line is your own handiwork, you can still be labeled a plagiarist because you used the same framing and a similar pose to someone else's work. Granted, this type of thing represent some of the most difficult work that goes into a sketch or painting, but it's still uncanny how the same image of a figure can be in a different art-style, have different lighting, different clothing, different anatomy, a different semantic and thematic message, different conceptual inspiration, so on and so on and so on -- but because one tiny facet of it is recognizably borrowed, usually the pose, it's completely disowned by the community as scumsucking plagiarist trash. This is sometimes called "pose theft."
That's right. The gestures of the human body and camera angles are intellectual property that art nerds act as though they should be protected by copyright.
I don't really know what I mean or where I'm going with this, but I guess if I do have a point it's that the standards for what people will consider stealing are wildly inconsistent and can be taken to such an extreme that it stresses the credibility of a person owning an idea to it's breaking point.
If you do a rearrangement of a song its completely fine. I have some on my channel and they are 100% legally owned by me, even tho their is some music from Zelda for example. (feel free to use them as u wish, crediting me would be great)
I agree with every point EmpLemon made, but the first 3 minutes of the video was pure cringe, so I can't hit that like button. I have standards, people.
I wasn't sure what you meant by characters like Lule Skywalker entering public domain.
I mean, I want people to be free to include him and Star Wars stories in their games without problems
But wouldn't want people to be able to change/add stuff to the original story just because a license expired.
Using the characters, sure, should be 100% legal (but like in a videogame, and not stealing the characters just to retell the same story your way and sell it as a separate product. That's just unfair)
I wouldn't want people to be able to sell their versions of my stories as their own, separate product, or worse, as an official extension of my product. Or as any extension of my product for that matter.
They can make fangames or something, but trying to compete with my stories, using MY OWN CHARACTERS would be just insulting to the artists
In that way the copyright law is protecting the artists.
But as an independent creator and a Star Wars fan I would love to be able to share my own games featuring Star Wars characters without the fear of being sued or them being deleted from appStore.
They are in no way a copy or trying to compete with the original. It's all fair, yet the law knows no distinction. You can't use them, fuck you
So in that sense I do agree that Luke Skywalker and other pop culture characters should be able to be used by the fans, but with some limits.
Also, perhaps people shouldn't be able to make entire businesses built on selling T-Shirts with Star Wars characters for example. That's just unfair I think. It's stealing someone's designs and mass producing them.
Idk, I feel like it's a hard problem to solve.
I feel like projects with genuine passion and an intent to innovate, should be allowed to take whatever they want to use whatever they may need.
But who's gonna control that? And who's it going to be profitable for?
Even if public Domain isn't broken, there would still be a massive Problem. Like with entry of the Gladiators the original is public Domain, but if someone rewrites it, or performs it, it would be copyrighted again. So companies could just rerelease an edited song after some time and still make tons of Money.
Thx to the Son(n)y (Pro-)Bonno act, the length of copyright reminds me of Weekend at Bernie's but instead of propping up dead Bernie, it's whoever the artist is 🤔
I hate to play devil's advocate but the reason Youtube doesn't have manual reviewers for copyright disputes isn't because they can't or don't want to hire people. It's because the only other option is for every single dispute to go to court. If Youtube said "no this is not copyrighted material" they could and (let's be real here, we're talking about record companies) would be taken to court. Not youtubers, Youtube itself would be sued since it actively took part in the copyright dispute. And that would apply to every single copyright dispute.
Don't get me wrong, Youtube fucks things up constantly but, just this once, it's not actually their fault.
Emp lemon has explained that before in the viacom sues youtube video. Youtube makes their system as confusing as possible so that if they ARE sued for copyright, then they can claim ignorance that they didnt know copyrighted material was uploaded to the site (or something like that). Semantics are a bitch lol
What the heck are we supposed to do then? It feels like something should be happening. I'm wringing my hands because I don't know what to do with them.
Jim Sterling is pretty cool. The 2 of them seem to agree on a lot of issues despite different political leanings. If only the 2 of them could work together. They'd be, invincible.
I've been watching your content for a while and I finally say this with complete confidence. I have no fucking idea what in the fuck I'm watching XD
EDIT: Funny you should use the Tank Man image, considering Tank Man wasn't hurt by the tanks whereas I can't say the same about "Random dude on Youtube"
The reason YouTube doesn’t do the appeals is because then they are getting involved, and then they lose safe harbor. They are just respecting who ever said it is theirs last.
The funniest joke in the video was implying that a law that doesn't work for the general public will be changed eventually just because time has passed and the people in the position to do something about are the right age to have been hindered by the law in the past. As if corporate interests wouldn't have stayed the same, or as if the new elected officials would be guaranteed to put their own values over corporate interests, or as if people with the stronger moral convictions are likelier to be elected just because of demographic changes.
Facts after facts after facts sampling any form of media should be legally allowed I get copyright claims on a bunch of music bc it remixes other material/ samples it
this video is perfect timing, im currently trying to make a low budget movie and im going through the process to find music for my movie and it is ridiculously absurd, take for instance, the public domain was frozen for 20 years preventing any media past 1922 from being released, in 2019 it was unfrozen but with some wierd rule that everything was public domain EXCEPT audio recordings... its awful how we let this happen
I feel like the only way the copyright can get better is if one executive came in and said, "can we have a word?" Or even crazier, if one copyright juggernaut had a lawsuit war with another copyright juggernaut, that results in no winners from either side and instead, the congress decides that enough is enough and removes all the crap.
But I guess I'm too much of an optimistic idealist to even think it'll happen.
Fun fact about Cypress Hill, they (or rather one member) are responsible for one of the most infamous verse bites in rap history. Like... In their biggest song one dude literally just stole another guy's whole ass verse. The original voice even said something along the lines of "I am [original rapper's name]" and the CH guy just left it in. I find it extremely ironic how they are so active with protecting their copyright (they've even taken a guy to court over an ad lib) in light of that.
Weird. The intro of Cypress Hill's "Make a Move" put a quiet background white noise over the Pulp Fiction audio. I assumed they did that to avoid copyright
Dilbert made fun of that in June 2nd, 2010. The last few names left will be reminiscent of a certain part of the body, names of accused war criminals, and funnier nicknames for partnerless loving
I like your video but if what you say at 18:01 happened ppl would just upload clips with massive amounts of dead time at the end of them to skew the percentage in their favor
When the memes I make get reposted in other discord servers, I dont barge in and say "HEY! that's MY mEME!" I feel happy that my memes are good enough to be repost worthy. Repost it all. Repost it everywhere.
8:15 It's on the level that I see piracy as something that's actually helpful to the creator. There are creators that say "It can be helpful" but those creators are generally the ones who either believe in old copyright law of expiring after 20 years, flat out don't care about their content anymore (which they will have likely thrown it into public domain), or just ran out of fucks to give.
You're absolutely right. Piracy is less harmful than the restrictions imposed by copyright. One pretty good (I won't say "great" because these two only partially go hand in hand) example that I'm a part of is the homebrew community of consoles. Sure a good chunk of homebrewers uses the system for piracy and free games, but there's a group of the population that uses the capability to provide the public with something they want but can't get, for instance, perfect rips of music from a videogame. Being able to dump a game cartridge for your switch and get the music and other assets out is gonna make a lot more people happy than the restrictions are. People often appreciate the music and its writing, and I know some people that buy the entire game because of the music or other assets. The copyright holders ought to be paying us at that point, but nope, we're just a bunch of dirty freeloaders who hurt them.
The happy birthday song was published 20 years after the Franco Prussian War, and 30 years after the American civil war, about 20 years before the first world war.
imagine have 1000 patrons and crying about copyright claim, because you can not take all the money we just waiting for exclusive merch and FOMO toys your videos are great btw xD
One insanely popular character from that era that has managed to finally escape the time freeze is Sherlock Holmes. That is how Warner Bros could have the 2009 Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. and BBC could have the 2010 Sherlock TV show with Benedict Cumberbatch and CBS could have still another TV show Elementary in 2012. Despite all this, there are still a few last stories Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote before dying in 1930 that were published in Strand AFTER 1923, and the Conan Doyle Estate still AGGRESSIVELY protects ANYTHING that comes even close to portraying Holmes doing anything he does in those last stories.
I'm surprised that the fuckers at WMG, UMG, EMI, etc., haven't bothered with lobbying the US Congress with amending the extent of copyright to "in perpetuity". Bcoz it might as well be with the current copyright system.
How would singing a song be in violation of copyright, as it pertains to the birthday song analogy? You can sing whatever song you want on your birthday and not be in violation of copyright, unless you record, publish, and monetize it. Warped perspective much?
Copyright should be an opt in process. If you file a copyright yourself you are subject to everyone elses copyright, but if you have no copyrights you are free to use all copyright material.
18:15 but then all YouTube will be filled with 10 hours clips of black void with 20 minutes of entire Simpson episode somewhere in it. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, because it helps decent creators but it won't fix the main reason why this copyrighted laws are in the site in the first place.
Musicians: Can I have money plz? Copywrite: Yea ok sure thats cool Musicians: Yay th- Cooperations: *MY MONEY* Musicians: But I ma- Cooperations. *DID I FUCKING STUTTER THIS IS MY MONEY*
11:10 is this why I haven't heard that fucking awful song in recent years? I think I aught to do a rare thank you to big corporations for taking faux happy birthday songs out of the public ... everything.
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Joseph Lisowski2020-02-02 20:52:20 (edited 2020-02-02 20:55:50 )
You know as a persion that study’s human behavior and economics I can say this. Pepole have said to me “hey we need this and that regulateion” and I have pointed out that there are many goverment regulations out there that hurt smaller bisnuses and indepandant createors and help bigger ones. and the ironic part is that big bisnus likes these regulateions. I don’t hate regulateions cuz I like big bisnus it’s becuse I care about small bisnuses and independent createors. Persionaly I think the market should compeat fairly and freely
I want my complementary downward spiral when I buy one
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RED SEA GAMING2022-05-04 22:10:35 (edited 2022-05-04 22:11:06 )
If YouTube allowed us to license music from the music owners I would want Fear Factory to play in my videos I wouldn't mind paying fifty bucks a year for the privilege of playing any song I want in the background of my videos
According to copyright law, if the original sheet music for a song is over 100 years old, that song is in the public domain and anyone trying to copyright a performance of it does so illegally. Good luck trying to get a court to hear that case though.
Nope, you can still copyright a recording of a public domain song, because hiring orchestras takes money, and your version might be a little different from the original.
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Intelectual property doesn't exist. Copyright laws were never about protecting small creators. Intelectual property doesn't fit the definition of property as it's not scarce. Intellectual property is the same as monopoly but it's more convenient so no one dares to talk shit about
@Neurolucky hey you wanna play raid shadow legends? But no seriously someone has to step up to YouTube and be as Brave as the shooter I couldn't be more serious about anything in my life
Good job you, aggressively blocking advertising. That's very noble of you. ...no sarcasm that is actually good of you and never let anyone tell you otherwise.
But kevin mac leod is ok and his music is publicly available. Then again, because he is kinda the only artist of that kind, everyone has heard all of his songs at least a thousand time already, making it seem unoriginal to use his music.
You need to make pt. 4, about communist movies/music, cuz they public domain and corporations in post-communist countries don't wanna have nothing to do with this era (in Cold War) and also I think you ignore the fact, that non-English Speaking countries exist (for example: LatinAutors copystriked Vinesauce Vinny for playing Final Fantasy music, only because they made covers of FF music).
15:45 I will try to become a fucking politician then. Though I live in backyard Finland where the corporations do not exist, Finland is still part of EU and EU has more people live in it than in USA, so more people can potentially be helped here. It is greatly unlikely that I will become a politician, But I'll try to get something done regardless.
It is actually evil that some turd chomping chlamydia snorters are controlling and profiting off of music and content someone made generations ago and have passed away... GENERATIONS AGO. If I passed, I wouldn't want some big corporation to own my shit, I want my things to be in public domain, so others can use my works for their own enjoyment, and breed new creative ideas, and art forms
I also recommend the video "Understanding Fair Use and Online Media - RTX 2016
", Adam from YourMovieSucks gives a talk for an hour about fair use and copyright in general and also on YouTube.
1. Culture always builds on the past. 2. The past always tries to control the future. 3. Our future is becoming less free. 4. To build free societies you must limit the control of the past. — Brett Gaylor
15:53 If thats true, and every 21 years or so a new year gets into the public domain, that means that in the year 3467 shrek will be released in the public domain.
I think it’s funny that Paul McCartney him fucking self said that he couldn’t give less of a shit if someone used his music in a video. Hell he even said he doesn’t care if you pirate his music
I’m not very educated on the subject, but doesn’t fair-use protect against copy-write and isn’t fair-use by definition using copyrighted content with the extent of verbal commentary and research purposes and doesn’t all of your videos fall under that definition. How do you still get copyrighted if you are using copyrighted content under fair-use?
Idk why anyone would buy a ridge wallet? A hundred dollars for two pieces of plastic and an elastic band assembled by children in China. %98 of the cost is going to have your regular influencer sell it to you.
Btw you aren’t saving any space. Try putting that hard piece of shit in your back pocket and sitting down. You are only adding to the things that have to be in your front pocket.
Copyright law is fucking irrelevant the original limit was stuff would go into the public domain after 50 years, the idea was that someone could make something, live long enough to profit off of that said thing, book, song, artwork, whatever, and when they die, it will go into public domain so someone ELSE can make their own version of that thing and profit off of it, then it goes into public domain again. etc etc. problem is companies like Warner Brothers and Disney lobbied congress to extend the free domain law to 100 years so they could continue to profit off said media. I am all for re-writing the copyright laws so that its fair to everyone. it hurts content creators, independant artists, journalists, and everyone down the line. yes, it was indeed extended so companies could profit off of it...it's pure greed!
Tbf Lil Nas's song Carry On did almost nothing to differentiate itself from the original song. Otherwise I pretty much agree with you on music sampling (in my opinion, being complete bullshit). The song "Tricky" (I think that's the title) by Run DMC was sued in 2006 by The Knacks for literally sampling .2 seconds of "My Sharona". The water gets muddy when you basically speed up an Imogen Heap song and call it Drum&Bass but there are plenty of songs that are nitpicked to shit because they're using the same melodic contour or same note sequence
A form of capitalism that was sold to us as ostensibly libertarian has morphed into a grotesque rentier capitalism, where actual productivity struggles to make money, and where the real money and power accumulates to those who don't produce but simply sell access to something that they own - copyright holders in media, patent holders in the pharmaceutical industry, land/property owners in the housing industry.
You presumably don't have time to read your comments, but if you do, please examine the following works: Postcapitalism by Paul Mason for how copyrights and patents are holding back the economy and maintaining monopolies, Neoliberalism by David Harvey as a guide to how an economic ideology that was implemented (in part or as a whole) was bastardized to redistribute wealth and power to the wealthy and powerful, and The Corruption of Capitalism by Guy Standing for the exposure of the lie of 'free markets'.
I may add that all three of these writers have plenty of talks uploaded to YT, and in the cases of Mason and Standing, talks specifically about the books that I mentioned.
@Hatster Well yes, but is annoying for both Emp and the other content creators on the site, and the suscribers of them. And also, the comment doesn't help the situation Emp is presenting in the video, it could even be considering as spam and a bad way to promote his channel.
Use LBRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only supporting the change will make the small bigger! Spread the word! Spread the word of creators soon being able to monetize their work on their own! Spread the word of decentralised Content sharing!
Also, every time the patent gets close to expiring, they change their formulation ever so slightly to maintain patent control. While these older formulations do enter the public domain, that doesn't help much when theirs basically three companies in all of the U.S. that produce nearly all the available Insulin and don't want to bother with the stuff they no longer get royalties for. It's even worse with insulin pens, pumps, and other equipment. Out of all the health issues and increased risks that come from being a Type 1 Diabetic, having to pay these people money because my only other alternative is death angers and frustrates me more than any of them.
10:36 Disney owns that rhinoceorus. You are about to have your wallet sucked so dry that you'll be able to trick arabs that they can drill for oil in it once Ol' Mickey is done with you.
@Nerdy Alien That's fair but Warner music had to pay back $14 million to the people that they had taken money from. Over all the story seems like a (rare) example of the copyright system actually working, even if it did take a long time. Anyway my point wasn't that the copyright system isn't fucked, it is that emp needs to actually research this kinda thing before putting it in a video.
Hey so im 18 now... Lobbying is what made copyright stupid, so maybe it can undo this... right? So... What can i do? i can vote right? Is there anything i can do to try and get copyright laws changed?
You used the wrong characters to represent rich CEOs. The merchant you used to represent a greedy Leafy was better. That ALSO explains why youtube is often more biased towards the corporation, because Susan W is a merchant-ess.
This is probably the worst of the 3 videos you've made on this. You spent the first half of this video bitching about copyright law then said the same things you've expressed in the last two videos while adding solutions to YouTube's copyright system. To start, your issues isn't with the law. It's with YouTube. You complaining about the law makes it sound like you can't make a nonsensical youtube poop video, so you're gonna cry about it. While yes, under law that video would be "transformative" and fall under fair use, that doesn't mean the law is the problem. And even then, not all youtube poops fall under that as many don't do anything "transformative".
As a creator myself, I want to curate my work while I'm alive, which the law allows. After my death, that only last for a certain about of time. While we can debate the length of time after death that the work gets to be copyrighted, the fact is that copyright does protect creators.
While many people like to compare this to patents, I think the issue is much more different. Patents completely restrict the work of any other creator or company to make a similar product for a limited time until the patent is released. Meaning, the holder of the patent can profit off of his invention before competition makes their own products allowing the market to decide the success of each product and promote growth and better products and lower prices for consumers. This is not comparable to music, or movies, or art. You can recreate a song very similarly to other songs but you can't re-release the same song in the exact same structure. And no I'm not talking about covers. I'm talking about the same 4 cord verse-chorus-verse-chorus musical structure that fills the top 40.
In conclusion, copyright law is a mess, but the solution isn't to lower copyright to 20 years then it's public domain. That approach completely undermines the artist. The solution to your personal issue is to get YouTube to fix how they handle copyright. Your solutions seem fair to me.
Also, the birthday song has been public domain since 2016. It makes your whiny rant harder to listen to when you don't even do proper research. Same thing with not giving proper estimates to how long copyright law last. It may seem indefinite but it's not. Fact is, a lot of the media you want to use in your videos are still very young works and are subject to copyright. Just because standards of how youtubers handle using content between youtubers are different, doesn't mean everyone has to abide by those standards.
I mean on the one hand I just hear a guy yelling at the man for having more money than him and rEsTrIcTiNg My CrEaTiViTy. On the other I think its definitely right that copyright laws are old and havnt caught up to the blazing fast speed of the internet yet. And on the third hand I dont really care because this whole deal hasnt taken money or time out of my pocket.
You're making it seem like the public is entitled to freely use, and in turn profit, off of characters in media and the media itself. Everything else in the video I agreed with, but the likeness of Mickey Mouse is owned by Disney. That's their character, not yours.
Create original song and upload to CDbaby Play song in video YouTube ID claims your song on top of the BS ones Still earn some dosh along with greedy labels
Anyone who wants to blame this on capitalism, its cronyism not capitalism that caused these problems. This would not happen in a completely free system.
The Idea of intellectual property itself is contradictory. While private property exists because of scarcity, ideas are not scarce therefore it would be contradictory to claim to be the sole controller of an idea
Well, it wasn't really a face reveal, since he was in "Joker makeup" mode the whole time. However, he occasionally did appear on camera before, but mostly remained a mystery as most YouTube poopers do
@Science Mage That is the different kind of internet. We CANNOT be caged! We CANNOT be controlled! These corporations will come to understand this as they die! The ever pathetic ever fools!
Let me introduce you to the crowd pulse. Or the pulse of the public. The pattern of the emotions of the masses through the subconscious crowd ignition content. Assalamu aleikum. Remember the devil is weak
if you want a presidential candidate who wants to do something about copyright law maybe look into Andrew Yang, other than that were in a downward spiral
Easily fixed by implementing a new rule; If a video is longer than an hour you multiply the copyrighted segment by how many times longer than an hour the video is. As a result, normal videos get charged like 0.1% of their revenue still, but pirates will need to pay the full 100% for an hours worth of stolen content.
YouTube already collects information about attention retention over the span of a video, and this already factors into ad revenue afaik. In this utopian world where copyright claimants can only get revenue for the portion of a video they truly own, the ratio of claimed segment vs video length could easily have the total of attention retaining segments substituted in for the raw video length.
Edit: This attention retention data collection is likely why videos marked as "For Kids" can't be played in the minimized window. Instead of cutting off the data collection, those geniuses gimped their own video player.
Bro you don't follow the rules. I hate copyright law probably more than the next guy, but if you're using any copyrighted material without permission you're opening yourself up for copyright claims. If you use only original creative content these problems won't happen, but you'll have to spend a lot more time and energy creating
The point of this video is that it doesn't matter. And he doesn't really care about money he's said a couple times. And on YouTube, it's pretty hard to be totally original lol, in human art it's pretty hard to be totally original. All art is derivative, and that's what the public domain is for. I mean, I respect your trying to get along without breaking the rules, but these laws don't fit the modern world. They have never fit the world, and they only serve greedy corporate pigs.
The good news is that the Happy Birthday song was recently released from copyright when someone proved there was an earlier existing version. The bad news is that any of this ever happened.
COPPA is wack, and did not succeed to making every content that’s for kids “for kids”. There are still some Mario Party videos that still allows commenting, which would be a burden to COPPA. And that’s only one example.
Not yet, we can still dig further below, we haven't passed the obsidian and bedrock yet. At some point we reach the Void and then we reach the ultimate end.
Emp, I just wanted to say thank you for this very informative and extremely well put together series. I know it alone probably won't change anything regarding this site's disregard towards content creators, but hopefully it will at least create some waves in the community. Please keep up your amazing work, sir
This made me consider that YouTube music is a thing and that means they have a deal with the music industry already on some level. Same for all the TV and movies you can buy now on the site. Why is it still such that ALL the monies from a video go to whomever files a copyright claim for however much or little content is infringed?
A great way to find usable music are small undiscovered artists! You can go to places like Newgrounds where most of the music is licensed under Creative Commons licenses (Most artists will be pretty lenient on use). And you can actually search for most recent submissions, which means music most people have probably never heard of, making your videos more unique instead of bland and generic. More people need to hear about this!
thank you for this series, copyright is really one of the most severe problems of youtube, and I'm glad you flavor your rant with arguments and actually good solutions
Very fair arguments for reasoning of both sides EmpLemon! I am a composer myself and often I have seen the argument on youtube that Pirating is the answer over copyright, but as you say in the beginning the idea of it excists for a reason. Otherwise it would be just copyright wild west like in China and no innovation would happen. However, it is taken over by the corporations as we speak. Man, what if Disney had to actually invent new things!
This video is so good. It’s very informative, and I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in it. I would readily share it if I had anyone to share it with.
Copyright has been one of the largest issues for, well, longer than I've known about any other issue. I have been wanting to say the following for a while: Whichever politician who does the most for copyright reform will get my vote, regardless of party. I'm planning to make a tweet of this mentioning every politician I can, so maybe it can get at least some representation.
I'm a musician so I'm 100% in favor of streaming services (including YouTube) benefitting the artist... so long as the YouTuber in question ISN'T following Fair Use guidelines by any stretch of the imagination. This shit really shouldn't be this complicated.
Ending the series with thought provocking facts and thick as a brick in the soundtrack when talking about copyright infrigment is golden. please don't leave the platform mr. Lemon we still need you ❤️
Youtube needs to adapt to the internet or the internet will adopt a new website that isn't total shit. Content creators should all pitch together to make an alternative to youtube. Even I as a viewer are more than willing to help out with this
the long term Youtube community at large can easily boycott and find a new website, the problem is getting everyone on the same page , and not overwhelming the servers of whatever website. a YouTube exodus would be a perfect way to end this decade.
I can’t wait until the day where Apple figured out a way to claim every single song with a sample from Logic Pro, the digital audio workstation that they bought.
Literally just got done with a class this semester about copyright , patents, and other general US laws that surround it. My teacher is for copyright and such but dose think its pretty messed up (hes a boomer). Though what i learned from that class was that copyright is tricky because yes it dose favor these massive corporations though if we were to get rid of it all together or change a lot of it it would FUCK over many small creators as well. There is no good answer to copy right law at the moment until (as EmpLemon said) we get new people in the government who understand it, though even then I doubt it will be fixed at all.
I think that you should put your suggestions for overhauling YouTube's Copyright policies in a separate video or document so that it can be easily accessed. That way if YouTube executives, by some miracle, were to decide to actually do something about the system they could refer to your great ideas.
Beware. No law in the history of man has ever stopped anyone from doing anything, that doesn't make those law pointless. That being said, current copyright laws ARE unreasonable!
Beware. No law in the history of man has ever stopped anyone from doing anything, that doesn't make those law pointless. That being said, current copyright laws ARE unreasonable!
It's honestly sort of depressing that in order for any actual legislative change regarding the internet to happen we literally have to wait for almost an entire generation to die out so their political seats can be replaced by more internet-savvy people.
Monstercat Gold is similar to what you've mentioned... $5/month and you get to download all songs and use like 90% of all releases from Monstercat on your videos without claim. (There's a list of releases that you can't use with the license, mainly because it involves other parties than Monstercat)
Too bad YouTube has the video streaming platform by the balls, no competition creates shitty products
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William TOAD2019-12-14 03:27:35 (edited 2019-12-14 03:29:13 )
Here’s a good rule, how about after the creator of an artwork dies of old age it goes into the public domain regardless if it was made after 1920-23. Copyright laws have been manipulated to benefit music and media companies decades after the work was already made and everybody who worked on it have moved on already.
The law is 15 years behind the rest of the world, and that's when there 𝘪𝘴𝘯'𝘵 aggressive lobbying to stomp out the terror that is the prevalence of online independent artists.
This is so ridiculous that honestly it wouldn't surprise me if it changes before 2030, some people will get to power and will realize the common sense benefit of using common sense... Besides remembering all the cases of prohibition. Stay strong Emp, your work is inspiring and amazing
All copyright and intellectual property laws are absurd. It's pretty much threatening people that aren't doing anything wrong. Intellectual property in and of itself is absurd, since ideas are infinite and therefore you can't say they're property. It's a monopoly, one that you are forced to obey even if you don't consent or sign any contracts, and one that if you break, you can get extorted, if you resist to pay, arrested, and if you resist again, killed. It's an ethical absurdity, and unjustifiable in any way. And also, of course, it has tremendously negative practical effects, as emp shows in the video.
Yo this video series is dope. The abuse of DMCA by huge companies is a long standing issue. Companies like UMG and Sony are just as corrupt as the big record labels and radio stations... they all engage in secret deals with Youtube, allowing them to make their own rules. They're allowed to change the rules whenever, or just disregard them completely.
The old fashioned music industry is going the way of Blockbuster and cable news. Why else would these "billion-dollar companies" need to steal 5 or 10 bucks from some indie musician Youtube?
The problem isn't Copyright Law - it's the ABUSE of Copyright law causing our current situation. Change the laws all you want, but as long as we keep using their services and literally paying them to restrict our free expression, we have no one but ourselves to blame.
I once got copyright claimed for a soundcloud song I added to a video of mine. The song I used, and the one I got claimed for were two different songs. The only similarity between the two was the beat. Which ironically, is a free, and copyright free beat.
19:15 uh @emplemon, this may not be good for videos in the long run, certain licenses can expire or get revoked. This means if youtubers uses copyrighted material and goes inactive down the line, eventually the license gets revoked or expires, thus their video gets either ad-claim or worse, taken down.
We have been able to make the software industry, which used to be big corporation suing another big corporation after another, to be able to get together and improve the general welfare of software with Open Source Software. Hell, some open source licenses straight up allow you to make distributions of the software for free while still being profitable (Linux and Firefox come to mind). So then I ask you, why the hell can we not have something similar with copyright?
The human mind is built to remix current ideas like crazy until it becomes almost original this is how we create "original" ideas Vsauce did a video on this. And these mega companies want to police this so nobody can remix their butiful songs movies etc. wich will stop the making new ideas so it becomes impossible
18:40 I know you'll say this is stupid, because it really is, but the answer to this point is that the music/entertainment industry has separate licencing for live broadcasts and stream than it does for on-demand streams and videos.
Did you recently watch the everything is a remix documentary? I had to write an essay for my final over this same topic. You even go over the same points in the video
Here's an idea: Do 18:02 but make the company find, note, and prove that it's their property. That amount of effort will easily drop most copyright claims
Execpt for the fact. That thus will require taking it to court which will then require a lot of money for the case. Which as emplemon said is not a tangeble option for youtubers
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Shame EmpLemon didn't spare a few minutes to mention Creative Commons, CopyLeft, or more permissive licensing. There isn't a lot of content available under CC licenses now, but encouraging more artists and creators to put their original work out under licenses that permit remixing and fair use can help build the foundation of a world where Remix Culture can thrive in the future.
Years ago I spent days trying to figure out how to properly license a song and tracking down who to specifically contact is a nightmare. And what I found out is 15 grand will give you a 1 year license. 1 YEAR and you have to renew or take it down its awful.
Its funny I found you off of complaining about a guy who was killing memes, but every other video you made is addressing something relevant to something I enjoy.
Reminds me A bit of Random Crits in TF2. A system outdated due to better maps, weapons and players, while the only people who want to keep them are the nostalgic boomer players from 2009 who think it'll break the game.
What's stopping everyone from blocking the main culprits of the copyright exploiting?
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Red _2019-12-14 04:44:51 (edited 2019-12-14 04:45:51 )
9/10 A 10/10 would have been a Raid Shadow Legends Ad instead. RustyCage knows what's up
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Marek Adams2019-12-14 01:05:51 (edited 2019-12-14 01:28:59 )
Oh no they're coming to fix it all oh no-
Edit: I thought this was the one you said would be covering how to avoid copyright, then I remembered you already covered it. Still, you can think of it as what Disney whenever the public domain is about to end.
The issue with YouTube is bots don't do followup. I can't tell you how many times our music streams have gotten copyright claims from companies representing bands who've given us specific permission to use their music. Try explaining that to a bot ugggh
You might be interested in looking up the CASE Act of 2019. It would allow copyright claims to go to a small claims court rather than the big, expensive Federal courts that adjudicate claims under the current law. It would allow creators to more easily make fair use arguments and get judgements in their favor. It was passed by the U.S. House but the Senate vote has been pending for a few months.
it's funny I hate ads, but love memes. I find more corporate media through memes to enjoy than ads, and they are killing memes, the one way I find new content.
+EmpLemon I am 100% supporting the idea that copyright system needs to be revamped to suit modern day,however you seem to mislead ppl and/or not fully understand the copyright system that is currently in place yourself.
Happy Birthday song is in public domain*, however specific *performances of that song could be copyrighted, same goes for other old music mentioned in the video. In that regards, it's a great video, I wish that something like flat fee for licensing copyrighted material would exist as well as splitting revenue based on how much copyrighted material was used... but this opens a huge Pandora-box that everyone is afraid to touch as of rn.
Suing musical acts over "nicking" other people's works actually predates sampling in rap: there's even a separate Wikipedia page about Led Zeppelin's legal troubles in this regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Led_Zeppelin_songs_written_or_inspired_by_others When you record a cover song you owe some royalties to the copyright holder. (The most famous examples of this are "Yesterday" and until recently, "Happy Birthday To You") You also need to add the appropriate credits: when Hendrix covered "All Along the Watchtower" he also named Bob Dylan as the songwriter and stated the song's copyright belonged to Dylan's ASCAP company,. Early rap samples didn't do this until rap became big business, and then everyone wanted their piece of the pie.
No mention of the guy that embraced clown world and copyright claimed his own videos, allowing him to at least get a cut of the monetization, and have other channels be immediately monitized right from zero subs? Not in the context of "Look, it can work!" but in the context of "Shit is so broken, this is what you have to do, to get anything resembling a fair shake"
correct me if im wrong but according to the information in this video in the court of law you can clearly appeal to previous examples of the alleged actions of the company that is suing you, as far as being the owner or not it will raise a valid concern in the court of law when you compare 2 criminals but with one having a bigger track record of the same crime. therefore in any rational world unless both sides want to get sued for the % of money they likely received from the crime big corporations will always be on the losing end of that, which should lead the 2 parties to negotiate a settlement on the matter with the sued being on the winning end because he has less profit so almost any settlement should be fair to the individual creator. I mean, I dont know how the law works in that regard and I tend to think that the "Law" in that regard is just another company selling itself to the highest bitter which is why I tend to think that on the grounds of the information in this videos companies should be sued way more than individual creators and not only that but for a company to sue will be the same as amazon operating at a loss of profits like during the economic crisis which is a lose-lose scenario to any big company unless they seek to plunder all their money to sue a few hundred individuals at best given a good lawyer presentation on their end. so how come this thing is even a threat to individual creators?
The root cause is capitalism. You could take down youtube the next website will do the exact same. Advertiser have the money, they have power. That is how it works around here. If you are not willing to change that, then you are not willing to take action to make online video service ethical.
the only thing in this video that i think is actually bad is the fact that public domain has progressed 3 years in the last 40. in a world where the copyright ended after 23 years, big corporations absolutely should exert their full influence over individual artists to squeeze every possible penny out of them. the man's comment about breaking reasonable laws is correct, the laws just aren't reasonable. also i like your 3 steps to fix the system. though, i think that certain companies/artists should have the right to back out of the flat license and negotiate their own price. they'd just need to put the name of their song on a warning list so youtubers know that their flat license doesn't get them rights to it.
Was that Logan Paul you snuck into that black and white image near the beginning?! LOL. I appreciated this series for sure. Thanks for putting in the work.
BrainCoolo what, about the anti-semitism thing? No. It was hinted on their wiki that he was making content that somewhat resembled or involved that of the sort.
Every song is on Spotify? None of my demos are or ever will be on there and Danzig's albums Blackacidevil, Satan's Child & I:Luciferi are not on there. Neither is anything by Samhain or any original releases from Marilyn Manson & The Spooky Kids. That's just naming a very small amount but what my point is is that EVERY SONG EVER CREATED is not on Spotify.
An_Annoying_Cat --- That's because Content ID system has harder time detected, if music belongs to Rightholder, plus the fact that he didn't monetize his video makes even more harder.
@Yes I will I am can’t wait no it isnt, to start, because of soft regulations, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. have become a shit hole were they can steal your personal information, your money, your freedom of speech, etc. Because "they are the owners and they can do whatever they want".
In the specific case of copyright, still not real regulation, because is only regulating everyone who it isn't a bilionare companie.
@Yes I will I am can’t wait if you don't understand, think about it this way
There is not regulation in how much money the can steal from you.
They can suit you just because THEY THINK the ip look similar to the material you use.
There is not limit of how much star-war-size ips you can own, this mean that if you own marvel and lucal films you can own 90% of the market for ever.
And i clearly write "unrelated COMPANIES", companies can do whatever they want for whatever reason capitalist boomers say. Not because ONE ASPECT that affects ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE is regulated, it means there are real regulations as a hole.
@Yes I will I am can’t wait even if you are right, and it count as a regulation, is a bad one that doesnt affect big companies , in my original comment i explicitly put COMPANIES AS A HOLE are unregulated in their power, so even if you are correct, 80% of my argument still holds up.
Retire? Some of these boomers have made sure they keep their power position until death. We're talking 50 year olds that might live 30 more years. They also have people of the same mindset lined up to take their place. Most of them aren't even young, they're 40+. It's a never ending pile of trash.
Copyright and Patent protections are extremely important, and they should be enforced strictly. (The products of a person's mind are the property of that person, more or less, and the mind that produced them should be compensated for their use) However, I agree that current copyright laws take it too far, and are used more often to enforce corporate greed. I personally think that the life of the author is long enough. Any longer than that is no longer protecting the creator of the work, but whoever buys it after their death. (Maybe the author could pass it down to their family through his/her will, but author's life plus 70 years for a corporation is more than ridiculous.)
Arthur Durham2022-04-28 01:36:15 (edited 2022-04-28 01:36:57 )
The sad thing is there is no need for them to change the law. What congressmen is going to spend their time to propose laws that reduce copyright power? Even the more righteous ones wouldn't waste their time on it .
And companies have no incentive to change it. As far as I can see, they get all the benefits with little downside except for the occasional bad press when they go too far.
The only reason music and movie streaming became a legitamite thing old studios now do is bc they saw huge losses in sales due to pirating or competitive streaming services and they needed to adapt.
But until copyright somehow causes them profit loss or it becomes a bigger issue in the public eye nothing will change. Even the Let it Go situation, Disney bullied their way out of it even though they basically created the laws that allowed them to get sued.
And consumers supported Disney and had their backs on it. And even with all the content creators who get hurt by unfair use of copyright, there's no real alternative to post their content so YouTube doesn't have to change much either.
There's unfortunately no incentive to change anything in the foreseeable future and it's a bummer.
Of course corporations want to defend their own interests! Its the government that shouldnt allow it, as its the one entity with power to enforce such things
i have 20 something subscribers and i'm not making money off of ads anyways so who cares if i just blatantly use copyrighted music over the entire video? nobody, that's who
Because I’m such a big fan of YTPs, ever since way back in the day, I’ve known about this problem for years. Gigantic media companies are just terrible honestly and our government is probably not going to do much about it for a very long time.
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Mr. Hippo2019-12-13 23:53:29 (edited 2019-12-13 23:54:22 )
Emp. Please DONT STOP making these videos. You have an enormous target on your back and have had one for months now, and it's why companies flock to your videos like flies on a turd with copyright claims. It's proof that it's the last thing they want. Keep it up.
My lil sis (age 15) says every creator should go somewhere else because Youtube really doesn't has the creators' best interests in mind. I agree with her, honestly. We all need to let this website die. But how? How could we do it?
Okay but hear me out Emp: I think the majority of your fans currently have enjoyed the direction you've taken with the channel and are all for it. I personally do, a lot. You seem to be quite literally the ONLY person who cares enough about the truth and about the site(A lot of people care but not as much as you do) to go into such detail and do so much research that you unearth a very damming truth that flips something on top of its head entirely. Your leafyishere video. Everyone though Ian killed Leafy's channel, but with the substantial evidence you provided from your research, you revealed that it's more likely than not that Youtube themselves targeted Leafy and silenced him under the radar and used the content cop as the perfect disguise in order to do it. And we all fell for it. But not you. You dug up that truth, and I absolutely love that, You're always teaching me new things with these " Rants " you do(I'd call them moreso informative videos). So please, never stop. Keep doing what you do, I'll always be here for it, bro.
Really good video. I'd like to add btw that the exact same issue that's crippling the rap industry is the same one that's plaguing genres like Vaporwave and Future Funk and stifling the growth of those scenes in the overall music industry. For all intensive purposes, plunderphonics ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunderphonics ) is entirely illegal and 100% unviable for becoming a massively successful artist UNLESS you can afford to pay royalties for samples, despite...
1) your talent with remixing and distorting samples 2) the nature of plunderphonics in general within the vaporwave and future funk genres 3) how utilizing warped samples plays into your other skills as a musical artist
Being a vaporwave or future funk artist is almost always synonymous with being a copyright smuggler, which is pretty fucked up.
19:26 sounds good for regular content creators but how would they know when people just tried to make money off the song itself? via something like direct upload
If someone sends you a copyright claim so you want it done in a Chinese Court, underneath their copyright law you can practically use whatever you want that way.
I talked to Matt Lowne, I'm on his discord, you could tell it's really fucked up what he went through, and the fact that even the YT Music library is in danger is just sad at this point... For shame YouTube, their new slogan should be "Broadcast Yourself, but only what we want you to."
I think copyright should be something along the lines of how long the company is using it, then like 21 years after. This gives company the ability to still use their characters/ideas then when this company falls out, if ever, then the people can use.
I keep wondering 90 years from now how will internet history be documented and archived, let alone the second biggest search engine in the planet. It won't surprise me if this period of human culture gets forgotten and undermined like anything else from yesteryears. Let's actually answer my question, now the preservation of internet culture is underwhelming at best. The majority users rely on the Way Back Machine, a site that does it's job well yet faces some bumps on the road particularly cause of how clunky it can be and how untapped it's potentials are. We will never know when a piece of history vanishes forever, but it's most likely the cause of overlooking that history. I imagine in the future a software that emulates (web 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc...) like with dated video games, but alas it is but a dream I treasure in mind. Perhaps a revolution will do justice for the lacking privilege of online communication from our leader's part.
Copyright law (and every other law and regulation in general) are created with the narrative that is to protect the small creator, but in reality the big companies that negotiate with the government for the creation of those laws since they will be the ones that benefit the most since is allow them to create big monopolies that wouldn't be possible on a free market.
If it wasn't for those big companies being able to o bargain with the government there would never be such thing as a copyright law since is ridiculous to own thought or an idea because it's not truly a property since several people can use an idea at the same time without taking away the right of the "owner" to use the idea
Copyright reform and continued lifesupport for the Mickey Mouse copyright both require congressional action, and are therefore unlikely to occur until some time in the 2040s.
As a fellow humble content creator, the copyright landscape is one of the biggest jokes of the modern era. Think about it. So many creators in the future who'll toil away to try and flourish on platforms like this will essentially be forced to create SPECIFIC TYPES OF MEDIA if they even want to DREAM of earning a profit for all of their hard work. It's sickening, really. YouTube will soon be nothing but vlogs and content that doesn't try to risk breaking the edges of the creative cosmos, because if you do anything else, just prepare to be paid in pennies. Which is the biggest shame, because even though we (content creators) love to express our creative minds and entertain people, we also want to get paid and make better lives for ourselves eventually. Who doesn't?! Hopefully this series of videos get in front of the right pair of eyes, because it's golden. Thank you.
Rusty's defense didn't convince me. I think the concept of intellectual property should be entirely removed from the law on a first amendment basis, and if necessary we should amend the constitution to prevent intellectual property from ever being a thing again. Copyright and patents tell people what they can't do in a situation where nobody is directly harmed. It only exists to support monopolistic leeches on our capitalist system, and is responsible for much of the troubles in the modern world.
Entry of the Gladiators is not under copyright. The recording of it is. You can get recordings of it that are legal to use by going to IMSLP and finding the piece there. IMSLP provides free recordings and sheet music for classical music that's under public domain. All recordings there are found under the creative commons license.
I’ve had over 40 toasts in the last 30 days Living currently, Dark Vegan (Johnny Test) should be in jail, he has no toast experience. He’s never been in the toast category. I would just say; Stay tuned, The day of Reckoning will come, and the record will be set straight.
18:00 this could still be open to abuse with funny moments guy channels putting the clips inside a large envelope of black video so the copyrighted material is only a portion of the total "video" length.
Beautiful, cool to see 78prof/45prof in this, his entire channel archive of years of uploads and thousands of songs was wiped this year or last year, and he just decided to start over. I’ve got a playlist of songs posted by him and it’s 235 removed videos in a single playlist, completely useless but I keep it in remembrance of what they did, some songs I couldn’t find that version of again until he reposted. It’s just an old man named Bob who’s passionate about music archiving and sharing his collection, not trying to make any money off of anyone.
I don't see anyone commenting this, so I think I'll post it myself. Although it is mentioned that "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted currently, this is not true. The copyright expired in 2017. However, it's still very annoying that it took from the 19th century until then to enter the Public Domain. ViHart made a video about it when it happened. https://youtu.be/AVo0Q8G8tS8
What frustrates me most is that the majority of people will never realize this is a symptom of the larger issue which is capitalism. If workers, or in this case content creators, wish to reclaim freedom over their labour, they can't just push for change in legislation, it has to be more... radical 😉.
Cold take. Corporations literally lobbied to prevent capitalist competition. If this was about capitalism they'd be fighting regulation, not creating it.
@Titanium Rain But isn't that what they're doing? They're pushing back against more progressive regulation in order to incentivize their own profit margins. After all, profit margins are everything in capitalism, by any means necessary. Since government regulation is in place they might as well take advantage of it by making it the most optimal for themselves.
The natural tendencies of unregulated or poorly regulated capitalism has historically been monopolies; this is no different.
Capitalism is against legislation when it's bad for them. Similarly, socialism is against the amassing of wealth is gained at the expense of people, which it isn't always.
@Chosen Rubric "They're pushing back against more progressive regulation" - bro they're literally pushing FOR regulation. Progressive regulation also gets corrupted just the same. "After all, profit margins are everything in capitalism, by any means necessary" - Not really. If you disobey the rules of capitalism for profit, you're not a capitalist. You're against the free market, you're against people making it, you're against competition. If I pay a gang (government) to close down every shop that doesn't belong to me or pays me protection money that's not capitalism. That's being a criminal.
That used to work, Jim Sterling did a video on it called "the copyright deadlock." But you might need help from a lawyer.....say, I wonder if one could make a business out of that. "I'll strike your video so no-one else can!".
And to make copyright laws actually benefit the individuals and not the corporations. To Make it like patent laws and update it for the modern day and not for pre-internet days
What do you define as a "small artist" weren't many of the people who used rusty cages knife song smaller, less influential creators than he. Surely by that logic those creators should be protected from him
The thing that bothers me most about the shitty policies and terrible algorithms for both copyright and demonetization is that they intentionally made it so both the claimants and the AI are dirty cops.
They shoot first, then ask questions later. Why not let people get all the ad money they can in a holding account, have a notification that it's in holding, and send the appropriate percentage of the monetization once it's done being in holding. I mean for god's sake how hard is it to run ads on content the ad maker disagrees with, thereby potentially making them more revenue, and denying payout of the creator if it's confirmed both not child friendly and in violation of terms? The AI could even do most of the work!
I made a bunch of gaming videos with Beatles songs dispersed throughout, maybe some are still up? (IDK TBH because I give 0 shits about my uploads now) Anyway most of them are banned worldwide now even though I would upload, get a strike, edit it down and re-upload again to see what exactly the site deems appropriate, but the goal posts kept moving, so I do all this work editing and editing and i am not even monetizing my content, and they just keep taking down my videos. So I learned how to make my own music, but how do I protect it? It seems like it'd be impossible to keep safe by myself with 0 funds to invest. And why would I want to support a site with my uploads, a site that deems it necessary to continuously destroy my work for no reason other than corporations are fucking greedy? So fuck it. Never uploading to this JOKE again. My music.
This explains why a lot of the music today sucks because everyone says music in the 70s and 60s was better maybe cuz the copyrights weren't as evil as they are now
No one else has the infrastructure and money to upkeep a site like this. If I remember right, Google loses money owning YouTube every year and it's almost impossible to start a fresh one in this day and age
Hello, my name is claude, i am posting this from a lan house, its all i have left, i am a musician that sold all my instruments and furniture due to the biggest loss of money you can imagine. How i lost so much money you ask? Well i am the original composer from let it go, but when dumb girls started covering my song on youtube, no one was buying the original song anymore, because they rather listen it for free from those perfect 12 yo covers... So please, for the sake of poor Disney that has been on the black for 10 years, make copyright laws stricter!!1
Also fun fact the company pay everyone back in the 14 million they made off it, you can check the story I got the info on at CBS news google birthday song rights
A great example of this copyright abuse are the Game Awards. Apparently WMG took down the whole VOD on Youtube in less than 10 hours after the stream ended. When i head over to twitch to see it the copyrighted part (and some other stuff) gets muted. The only thing possibly containing copyrighted Music would have been from a less an 2 minute Trailer. In a 4 Hour stream. The following part is only speculation but wouldnt the Company who made the trailer own the rights to the song? And if TGA has the rights to show the trailer therefor have the rights to play the song in that context?
I loved this series, it's a wonderful mix of good editing and showing the pure stupidity of the current copyright system and the companies that exploit the system to dick down content creators who dare use 3 seconds of anything
Man, I remember when I first saw a few emplemon vids. They were some funny videos about jokes and remixes of shows. However as I grew older and moved away from the hose videos I stumbled back upon the same joke merchant I once remembered for making silly remixes... but now he too had matured.
People may not like your new content, whatever their reason maybe I gotta say man I love your content. Be it your documentary content or your issues based one. Maybe I’ve grown more political and as such my interest in the goings on of things I don’t know about has grown. But keep up the good work
Would like to just state that I find analysis of how copyright works on this platform fascinating, in that same sort of way that watching two trains on a collision course is. You keep making videos that you want to make, and your own cynical enthusiasm keeps them engaging - even on topics that I'd never research on my own. Thanks for the interesting commentary, Emp.
Thanks for actually making an informative video on the subject of copyright. I actually learned something unlike everyone else just ranting at a video hosting website.
Wish you were here is one of m favorite albums of all time, one of the reasons is because it attacks the music industry so harshly, and it deserves it. It will forever be topical as long as greed exists
There is one thing though I feel is important to consider when discussing copyright law that you didn't just miss but actively disregarded in your video. I agree with you in almost every way except that copyright law does not only need to protect independent artists, but also bigger corporations. Without copyright law, intellectual property wouldn't really be profitable which would discourage bigger corporations from making intellectual property and disincentivize individuals from pursuing a career in art, music, movies, etc. It would make it so that pretty much the only people creating anything would be individual artists with a community strong enough to want to support the artist. That would mean that big-budget movies, tv-series and animated shows would basically cease to exist entirely since it wouldn't be a profitable business venture to invest in. However, LIFETIME PLUS SEVENTY YEARS is LUDICROUS given what copyright law is trying to accomplish and to suggest that singing a song around a campfire is against copyright law is just beyond stupid.
Real talk tho, those suggestions you made for reforms at the end are pretty good, hopefully someone from youtube finds this video and takes those ideas into consideration
Does that mean new YouTube content creators shouldn't expect to earn any money? Though I believe that if earning money is off the table, people will start making videos for the sake of simply using it as an outlet for their creativity.
Happy Birthday To You simply got "lucky" (or rather Warner's Music did when they bought out the publishers decades ago) by timing of it's initial copyright registering. It's actually back in the public domain now after it was proven Warner's only have the rights to a specific instrumental arrangement rather than the popular lyric version.
This video is great. I got a copy claim on a video where I used a royalty free lofi song by some shmuck that sampled it. It got released but I still don’t get why the hell that “song” was copyrighted when it’s based on a free to use song.
I've been having the same problem. I've been using the song what's on the editing apps, but someone already claimed it. Well, I just make videos for fun.
Isn't it wonderful how you aren't allowed to own your culture?
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Maximum Throttle2019-12-13 21:44:09 (edited 2019-12-13 21:44:29 )
this site has lost its way, it used to promote unique ideas and creators. nowadays it just promotes corporatism and censorship. thanks google, and thanks Susan.
You realize youtube isn't even following the law, right? The law says using a small amount of a thing in a transformative way IS Fair Use. Every single time youtube copyright claims a video that isn't a full reupload of the original, they're violating your rights under the law, at least if you live in the U.S.
You've got the issue that that dude from Black Mirror that ends up getting a show where he holds that sliver of glass up to his throat has. You've ranted for so long that something has been filed off the edge. Still love your content though. If/when YouTube implodes in a dumpster fire, you're one of the creators I'll try to keep up with on other platforms.
Never cleared a sample in my life. Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Madonna, Rolling Stones, The Verve, Oasis, Motorhead, Tina Turner, Duran Duran and Creedance Clearwater Revival among probably dozens of artists. Only time I've not gotten away with it? A 61 year old Louis Prima song that got took down from iTunes. Unbelievable.
You forgot to mention how easy it is for some small artist with copyright of their song can still get copyrighted by random strangers for their own songs
Addendum: the DMCA is a backup plan for media companies. If copyright law is ever fixed to a fair arrangement, DMCA protections on works protected by encryption never expires under any circumstances. Circumventing those protections is a criminal act, not a civil matter. This means that if all copies of a copyrighted work released to the public were released encrypted, then the copyright holder may withhold access to the work for a fee indefinitely with the federal government acting as violent enforcers of that fee.
For years I've said out of control patent laws, copyright laws, and the DMCA would absolutely obliterate our culture, locking it up permanently behind a paywall and defeating the entire original stated purpose of copyright law to begin with. Lo and behold that's exactly what's happening. Shocker.
copyright, if used rigorously enough, could keep the public from sticking to trends. If somebody copyrights stale traditions such as "happy birthday", the public could potentially leave it to support other things in it's place. It pisses me right off when somebody just takes a sample out of another song, it's cheap and exploitative of fundamental psychological attraction towards previous experience. Using media for memes is pretty integral to understanding them though
Next time Emp check out Wikipedia when looking for old songs like Entry of the Gladiators, they often have public domain versions of songs performed by US Military Bands.
As for why its copyrighted on youtube, recordings of public domain songs don't become public domain. So while anyone is free to make their own version of Entry of the Gladiators, you can't just use a version made by someone else.
The real ball-busting part of the public domain freeze is that even if a work is public domain, the recording of that work probably isn't as a 78 record copy isn't going to be suitable for a video. And even if you do find a good copy or make your own recording, who knows if a modern copyrighted recording will flag content ID for your public domain recording!
Copyright law, content ID, and corporate greed are the reason why you should not be ashamed to pirate anything from any big corporation. Screw those guys, they treat you like a criminal no matter what you do, so why play by the rules at all? Shared the movie you bought with a friend? Piracy. Shared account passwords with friends? Piracy. Well I guess I can skip the whole buying the product thing in the first place then, how's that sound huh?
Paul McCartney enjoyed A Whole Career sampling other people’s work. It’s only natural for him to close that door behind him Before Anyone DARES try and sample His work....... 🙄
@Thor mate, this is the fucking law. This goes deeper than "crony capitalism" Also me saying capitalism is terrible does not equate to me being a communist. I don't believe in communism either. Not in our society.
I looked and I didn't get a notification for emperor lemons new upload and I looked in my subscription box and no video either. But the way I found this video was my youtube homepage. CENSORSHIP MUCH?!
A piece of copyrighted media enters the public domain 70 years after being published. That means that after 70 years the copyright no longer exists. So how is it that songs written 120+ years ago will get people sued? This just ain't adding up.
i agree with everything you said in this video but at the same time its all stemming from your greed. get a real job instead of expecting livelihood from memes
Emp, it feels like you are going on a downward spiral yourself, the fact that you completely misunderstand why copyright exists, and why people treat IP the same as physical property. I'll admit I dislike how the 'new media' sort of has grown up treating works as disposable pieces of content but claiming copyright is made redundant by copyright violations is a shitty hill to die on. Blaming 'big' companies is a shitty argument too, the creator of any work and representatives of the creator have absolute right to seek payments when the work is used for any commercial purposes, you can't simply use someone's content to make your own content. I can't understand why anyone would justify rappers making money off other artists' work (sampling).
Perhaps the fairest thing to do for YouTube would be to transfer proportional revenue of the content from third parties, say you have a 100min long video of which 5mins is of third party content you have not licensed, YT could simply give 5% of your revenue to the third party.
I agree. This video really comes off as the ramblings of someone who has a very strong opinion on things that he really doesn't understand at all. Just because a lot of YouTubers (myself included) use copyrighted material indiscrinately doesn't mean that the law needs to change to benefit their needs.
And copyright laws, as well as patent laws, don't exist purely to "benefit smaller creators", but he keeps emphasizing that for some reason.
Inb4 you get copyclaimed by Trent Reznor for sampling his album name.
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steve cooper2019-12-13 21:25:33 (edited 2019-12-13 21:28:30 )
* Notice illegal use of song *
Yar - Har - fiddle - dee-dee being a pirate is all right with me! do what you want'cause a pirate is free you are a pirate! : ) thanks Viacom, Disney, Warner media I'm bad wih buying my songs anyway lick my boots
Emp, my father is a scientific illustrator, who has had his work stolen literally thousands of times to be sold on goods. Also, he will license his artwork for basically anyone for a pretty small cost.
In my opinion, that is where copyright law works. Independent artists that have their work stolen. Like, someone on RedBubble just taking his art, putting it on a T-Shirt, and selling it. These sites just let you download an image from a University and upload it to any of these merch sites and acting as if they own it. Some of them sell straight up prints which he sells directly, shipping everything himself. He singlehandedly took on some of these MAJOR shit sites, if you like I could give you some great secondhand experience.
Now, music and video is a different experience 8n my opinion, basically share your opinions on it. I think copyright should be life of the artist, or life of the artist +15 years. What Disney pushed it to is insanity.
can't a eastern country create their own youtube with their own copyright laws,i'm assuming no company in the east is capable of this without blasting their bollywood crap every where.
These companies don't understand that using a 5 second clip of a Shrek movie actually PROMOTES the show by showing a large audience, but then again boomers don't understand the internet.
What about Weird Al song Parodies? Oh wait, Copyright, asking for permission from the music companies and the Artist who made the song and paying license fees
You might not break copyright law becuase you hate media and want them to lose money- but I do. Eat my shorts Disney. I'm not going to pay you to watch Recess when I can watch all the 480p content I want.
I hate that YT's garbage system has made me a little afraid to give this a like, because even with the huge amount of work EmpLemon put into making all of this great video safe from copyright claims there's still a good chance some dickwad copyright holder will claim it if it gets too much attention and they can find a sliver of a sliver of their prized material in it. When I feel like giving a video a like is helping push the creator's head above the trench and put them in the line of fire, you know things are completely broken and ass-backwards.
@Ellis Watanabe Then you saw the part where he said he wasn't opposed to people protecting their content. You saw the part where he said he was willing to share the profits of his work in proportion to the works he used, rather than lose 100% of his revenue. Then you heard where the system was only supposed to protect content for 14 years plus 14 years extension but the law was changed by Disney lobbyists. You also heard the part where the current enforcers of the copyright system MADE BILLIONS by profiting off someone else's work. And you also heard the part where the draws a clear distinction between using someone else's work for profit and actually creating new and original content.
What's the solution then? Should artists keep what they make un-copywritten so that there's no legal issues, or should they copywrite their material so that no one else can and then not enforce it?
@Jabroni Toni well, the second alternative then. Because we no longer depend on record labels for distribution then unsigned artists should group and create a label for the single purpose of copyrighting content and now allowing the big companies to take it for themselves. I remember Trent Reznor created his own record label because of his disputes with conventional labels and he's the one who signed Lil Nas X.
@Jabroni Toni Well, all mainstream labels screw artists over. I think a good talk on this topic is Billy Cougan of Smashing Pumpkins on the Joe Rogan podcast, but a lot of other artists have exposed the reality of business on other shows. Essentially you make a deal with the labels for exposure and better sales. But the deal forces you to make your recordings at a label-owned studio and they'll charge you absurd amounts of money for studio time. We might be talking about values that can go up to 200k dollars to get an album done. And they end up taking a lot of the record sales so you barely see any money.
@Zero Black "First, the regime created in 1919 by the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act, which charged the Treasury Department with enforcement of the new restrictions, was far from all-embracing. The amendment prohibited the commercial manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages; it did not prohibit use, nor production for one’s own consumption. Moreover, the provisions did not take effect until a year after passage -plenty of time for people to stockpile supplies.
Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.
Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.
Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition’s 14 year rule. Organized crime may have become more visible and lurid during Prohibition, but it existed before and after.
Fourth, following the repeal of Prohibition, alcohol consumption increased. Today, alcohol is estimated to be the cause of more than 23,000 motor vehicle deaths and is implicated in more than half of the nation’s 20,000 homicides. In contrast, drugs have not yet been persuasively linked to highway fatalities and are believed to account for 10 percent to 20 percent of homicides.
Prohibition did not end alcohol use. What is remarkable, however, is that a relatively narrow political movement, relying on a relatively weak set of statutes, succeeded in reducing, by one-third, the consumption of a drug that had wide historical and popular sanction."
Harvard Proffesor Mark H. Moore
There is a lot of evidence showing it worked but you will continue to be a slave to liberalism
@Pranav Rao Ok, first of all. I am not denying historical evidence. I just asked because the prohibition lasted as long as a fart. And if i am an slave to liberalism, i have news for you. We are in the same boat.
Zero Black Just because it didnt last long doesnt mean it wasnt effective lol. It was gotten rid of as an extreme reaction to the situation at the time. Policy can be good and be revoked in a short period of time. Rail infrastructure is a great example of this.
13:29 Any copyright legislation that gives protection a single second after the creator's death was bad regardless of era. The heirs of J. R. R. Tolkien and everyone else should take their hands out of our pockets and get jobs.
Whenever i would see stuff ive made reposted i have never gotten pissed of because of copy right bullshit, ive always been so excited by it cause its really cool that epoople would like my stuff like that!
18:01 this idea sounds good in theory but then I think the videos of straight up ripped footage would just be hours long, contain like 10 or 20 minutes of copyrighted footage and so the uploader would still get a large portion of the revenue
I hadn't even thought about that. I suppose the only way to truly circumvent that would be to have a system of manual review so that people could watch the videos and determine whether or not it's fair use and then... we'd be right back at square one because every video would just get fully claimed anyways like it is now... yeah I don't know how one would get around that honestly. You bring up a really good point. Even if they were to institute a system to judge whether or not the non-copyrighted portions of the video are actually "content", it would just bring upon a new gray area of what is really considered "content" and what's not. Solid counterargument.
Article 13 makes no sense !
In the recent past months a proposal was made to the EU called article 13 in order to solve issues connected with copyright on the internet.This bill recently passed and has made many on the internet speak out about why the bill won’t work as they intended it to.
Firstly, the intent of article 13 is clear however it will not work for many reasons. Article 13 is newly passed law that will take effect around 2021 and what it essentially says is that responsibility of copyright does not fall on the user rather the company the user uploads content on the site to deal with it. Which is meant to solve the issue of copyright not always being dealt with and that stricter rules is needed as companies have been “slouching” around not dealing with the issue.
To put this into perspektiv if you uploaded something that is copyrighted often it would fall on you the user that uploaded that copyrighted content on the site therefore, you get the consequences small or big (for ex. banning an account or being sued). However, when the law goes into effect, it will be the company's responsibility to respond to this and solve it or get the consequences. Due to how complicated the issue is though a simple bill will not really solve the “slouching” of companies working on copyright.
This is extremely harsh and makes little to no sense when you look at the pros and cons. What the EU is asking for is an impossible task in which problems do not get solved by individuals rather a group of finite workers to solve every individual’s copyright problem on their site. A site which will contain millions of users daily and can upload as much as they want any day to be solved by a big company is even a stretch by far.
What these companies will essentially have to rely on is bots that can detect whether the material is copyright infringed or not. Which sounds ok at first but because bots infamous history with taking care of copyrighted material not many consider them even to be a viable option. Not to mention that the best bots against copyright at the moment are mostly from Google and that would essentially force other companies to buy their bots or suddenly develop bots Google could not even perfect after many years. This is not even mentioning the smaller companies which won't be able to afford any of these options. However in the end these bots will be used and do the standard check up on content which can’t discern many things.
In a blog post Ceo of Youtube Susan Wojcicki urges people to protest and writes that
“Article 13 as written threatens to shut down the ability of millions of people -- from creators like you to everyday users”
She later on, goes deeper into the conquenes and explanation as to why this will happen but the point is that even the largest tech companies have trouble with handling the situation. This could mean that it’s the tech companies fault for not handling the situation in which even one of the Proponents states
“the legislation is necessary to protect fair pay for creators, and that major tech platforms have been able to skirt responsibility for too long”.
Well if companies have been “skirting” the problem for too long, then this does make sense in a way. It is already a law in many countries not steal copyrighted content and, the artist and people mostly sign up on these sites expecting to be protected from people stealing their content in the agreements these sites have. Thus what article 13 wants is licenses to these people who upload the content, and if another person doesn't have the license to the content he should not be able to upload that content, to begin with. What article 13 is merely doing is shifting the responsibility to companies so that they can or get more productive in protecting the people’s content which they should have done, to begin with. Companies are being given time to accommodate for the sudden change as well from “skirting” around to much.
Article 13 will help not only small individual content but also protect giant companies making it safer to upload their content on to a site to get the revenue or adds etc. which they deserve. Also something that the law mentions is that modified content such as parodies, memes, reviews, educational purposes or some kind of remake of that content even though they might be similar is allowed. So essentially only the people who completely rip off that said content will be punished and those that change it up “enough” won't be. So the bill in the end won’t really punish anyone who follows the guidelines and will make it safer for does who do small creator or big.
The fact of the matter is that article 13 is trying to tackle a complex and hard question and then just leaving it at that almost as if the solution is really simple.
You might even say that the people behind the law have no idea or understanding of the effects and aren’t so much as worried about how the law will be followed rather that on paper it protects content and that they have made the exceptions in the law.
The Guardian (2019) states that
“Supporters argue that the laws even the playing field between large internet firms and traditional publishers, while opponents warn that the legislation risks creating an unfeasibly high barrier to publishing anything online, which will ultimately harm freedom of expression on the internet.”
It really does seem like the people voting for the law where really only looking at the small picture while others were looking at the big picture.
In a article by Communia (2019) they state
“On Tuesday this week a group of more than 70 people who have played important roles in building the internet and developing it into the vibrant cultural space that it is today came out with an open letter addressed to the members of the European Parliament. Tim Berners-Lee, Vincent Cerf, Mitchell Baker, Jimmy Wales and 70 others write:”
The things that were previously stated are not only from people with basic understanding of the internet it’s also things being told by real professionals within this area.
However members of the EU are not professionals and don’t have as many connections to the internet as the average person in the tech industry.
In the EU parliament which is incredibly complex there are multiple jobs there but it is not perfect many would say.
One thing some say the EU did bad in was not informing about the pros and cons of this law well. There are essentially four big groups in the EU but the focus will be on the EU commision.
From the EU official site Epso they state here how it works very shortly.
“The European Commission is the EU's executive arm. It is alone responsible for drawing up proposals for new European legislation, and it implements the decisions of the European Parliament and the Council of the EU.”
What is good to know is that the EU commission are not a direct representative of a country rather a group of people from european countries representing EU itself. So what they do is not on behalf of a country rather than themselves. We the people merely influence the EU parliament which are direct representatives of our country to vote on what is proposed. This process is incredibly indirect (because of this many argue that EU is not democratic enough) and creates the problem previously said which is people not getting the big picture, all the pros and cons etc. So due to indirekt process of voting and inferior knowledge on the bills consequences results in somewhat of a misinformation or little information being said.
However there has been opposition towards this law but only to fail for it to be debated any further with others in the Parliament. This can just be because they’ve already made up their minds and do not think there is much to add in the debate as also there is not much of a stake for these people etc. There are even more consequences to add to this bill passing such as that people will just start to use vpn and switch their location to view what they want to see (making tracing for ex. hackers harder), it will change the way other countries across the world will view content, it will make the internet in general less free and very restricting. This is a law that will help the minority such as music artists, big social media companies and hinder the majority who merely wants to enjoy the content or using the content for other “good” reasons. What is needed then would be petitions and votes to debate article 13 more and get a better understanding of the bill.
Thus we can conclude that this law need a change, at its core, is fundamentally broken and can not be implemented in this day and age with these astronomical cons at least compared to the pros. If someone can prove that the pros can overcome the cons and that the law can be implemented as of year 2021 many would very much like to hear it.
Every time I see emp I just think of the end of sextravaganza. He has changed so much since then. Not in a bad way, it’s just so surreal to see him now.
Remixing has always been a massive part of our culture. For a relatable example, imagine if video game mechanics could be copyrighted. Imagine if any 2D platformer was forced to pay royalties to Nintendo for "licencing mario-style mechanics" (And yes I know that mario's physics were directly inspired by Miner 2049-er but like a lot of similar situations Nintendo (A big corporation who ripped their ideas from somewhere else) could probably either successfully defend themselves or buy the original source with all the money they made "infringing on it's mechanics")
your series has a very good political analysis hidden under the deluge of memes. enjoyed it a lot. I honestly see no hope for this though. there is too much moneyed interest for copyright to be changed and it will always be under assault to become stronger.
I still buy CDs, pay for movies, and buy games. Paid distribution is still legitimate, but fair use has always been, too. This has always been the problem of basing legality on semantics and interpretation of unexhaustive written laws, and always will be. Just because you can technically interpret a law to prevent someone from deriving creativity from the roots of another work doesn't legitimize doing so, just like technically saying pirating is for private use doesn't legitimize sidestepping someone selling art.
I always ask myself why these mega corporations even hoard all that money. By owning like 90% of the entertainment you make more money than all of the employees could spend in a lifetime. What are they even doing with all that money. It's all so pointless. Why do i have that weird thought in my head that all this current dysfunction of our society is one big joke and it'll all collapse soon.
The counterargument for this would be, "imagine being so lacking in wealth that you care about the advancement of culture by other poor people" Idek, I just can't see how that justifies what's been done.
copyright: we like to protect content creators from misuse and stealing. also copyright: EXCUSE ME DID YOU USE .1 SECOND OF YOUR SONG THAT WE OWN THE RIGHTS TO? MONEYYYYYYYYYYY!
lol it's not like the government makes direct money off of any of this. It's just made for morals' sake, despite not being very moral right now. They kinda screwed themselves over as they gave too much to large corporations and now corporations run the U.S. Oops, I guess.
About hip hop, danny brown got like 70k in debt from samples for making atrocity exhibition, and it's probably one of the greatest rap albums... ever really lol
Intellectual Property one of the biggest lies on the planet. The idea that one can actually own an idea or narrative is completely foolish. One may argue that the exclusive right to profit from an idea or narrative should be established that authors might have more reason to create things, but you must understand that even if such an institution is established, these rights are entirely manufactured and are in no way inherant, they are created for their use and the point at which they stop being useful to society is the point at which they stop having any valid existance.
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You and itsagundam should do a review of the ridge wallet together.
Copystrike law is unconstitutional because the punishment is cruel and unusual (not to mention disproportionate and unnecessary.) Charging someone all of their Adsense for a video because of 5 seconds is against everything American!
This is why everyone should support term limits. Not only does it give a chance for younger politicians, it culls the career politicians that have been in office for 30+ years, and destroys the vast reach lobbies have in US politics.
Problems with copyright: -last too long, most copyrighted materials such as abandonware (old video games that no longer supported) and other old works that many companies cease enforcing them but in law, still protected. Users had to download ROMs to preserve and play them which is illegal. Nintendo is at war against this, rendering these old games as a “limited time availability”. That’s right, users are FORCED to sail the high seas if they want to play them, not to mention, region locks and licensing. There’s no legal way to obtain them. -it restricts more than just copying, EULAs and DRM are fucking trash. Jhon deere is one example to stop farmers from repairing their tractors. Lets not forget about sony BMG and flightsimlabs going vigilante on their software.
Many of these works have a commercial lifespan of 5-20 years. But by default, last way longer than that. The original form of copyright was that to continue its legal protection, renewal is required every 20 years. If the holder dies, the remaining copyright cannot be extended.
@GHB dude, I never said i supported anti piracy, just pointing out that the law forces corporations to act that to protect their ip. Now eula's and drm are different matter. The us military is even negatively impacted by that, so hopefully right to repair and such can be pushed on that front
No, all copyright law is wrong. It is a direct violation of freedom of expression. The thing that should keep corporations from stealing ideas and stopping bootleggers is the thing you least want to hear; YOU! This wouldn't be a problem if people practiced their principles. Sucks to be a massive hypocrite I guess but it doesn't make copyright any more moral. No information should be illegal.
I don't understand but maybe it has to do with the original creators of Steamboat Willie being dead and copyright could only be written for them maybe??? So Disney just extend the years after death as a loophole. But then Emp said something got taken out of the public domain here. I really don't understand.
listen this video is really good but tone it down a little with the gangweed society ok boomer memes although if this video was made a few months ago then its understandable
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way...........
who is the official creator of 'DISNEYS TMMTTMTMTMTMTMTMTM FORZEN TMTMTMTMTTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTM 2TMTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTM' When will they Die ? When will it become public domain?
I THOUGHT ID CLEAR THIS UP. u said less than a tenth of a percent. yet the graph said .2% which is twice a tenth of a percent. PROBLEM SOLVED YW IN ADVANCE
Here's my two cents: I agree with most of your points, but I think that copyright should last forever. (not sure if disney got their 1 day before infinity thing) Let me explain why before people get mad. If fair use worked, you could use scenes for quick jokes as long as they weren't over-extended. People would also be able to draw inspiration from other works. Those are your main points in my eyes. Let's say you are dead or your copyright expires. Without infinite copyright, what is stopping someone from saying lol I made this or lol i copy pasted this games files now pay me i made this game. Now using characters for parodies and stuff is fine but using characters and not the template and traits of the characters in another tv show or movies doesn't seem to be fair use. If fair use worked then copyright should last forever cus like if I owned stuff I would be perfectly fine with people doing stuff like you do but then it would also stop from someone eventually just saying lol I want this so ima just say it mine or lmao ima take his code and essentially copy paste it. I agree that rn fair use is broken but I hope you can see the message I am trying to convey.
「I M P E N D I N G D O O M A R R I V E S」 But seriously though, I kinda wish we could find a different video platform, but I don't think it would work unless everyone migrated to that site. People are like "Hey guys, YouTube SUCKS! Let's move to [insert site here]!" but it never works because all of the popular YouTubers never move to those alternative sites because they're comfy with their current money grabbing scheme.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PLEASE MAKE MORE YOUTUBE POOPS! I LOVE THE FUNNY EDITS AND LOUD NOIESS!!!!!!!!! AHAHGAHHAH SO FUNYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He used to belong to the YouTube Poop comunity, and Viacom, WB and other shitty companies constantly copyright claimed his videos while they were clearly protected by fair use. And thats something he still suffers today.
@MMFan2004 --- sorry, but actually nobody cares about Soviet Union, because I don't see anybody English-Speaking using USSR Music/Movie Footage, even thought it's PUBLIC DOMAIN!
@MMFan2004 --- I agree, because atleast in USSR you can use 40 second of Mickey Mouse character (and yes, there's a communist movie [made in Eastern Block, but created by Soviets], which featuring Mickey Mouse, I'm not kidding).
Do you see why communism exists now they reza be living in a Communist country then this dystopian time line bring me out this dystopian timeline someone very uses dead the public domain is Gade would someone give me out all fear
All this hate on our copyright system is unfounded. Companies own the rights to their property, and can legally choose how it is distributed on the internet. If they don't want their content being stolen by YouTubers and mutilated for a video, they have every right to a copyright claim. If you think a claim has been filed erroneously or maliciously, you can appeal it. Don't blame us for the copyright laws, we don't make the laws yet, so if you don't like them complain to congress.
Don’t call copyright a joke. Jokes are funny. This is a slow, painful, death of an old friend.
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I think I've heard people use those exact words to silence comedians and free speech for being offensive to the overly sensitive society that exists today.
35 likesOtherwise known as a tragedy.
35 likesSherlock Well, those people were talking about literal jokes. This here is a metaphorical joke that’s not trying to be comedic. This is completely different.
53 likesI wouldn't call it an old friend.
4 likesCopyright gas chamber.
2 likesHarry O'Byrne --- It could be a joke in 1790-1800.
1 likeIt’s so dumb that it’s funny
2 likesThis is more sad and pathetic, like an orphan with no hands... or legs... with progeria
2 likesCopyright is a joke, but we aren't the one's laughing
2 likesHarry O'Byrne No use in calling something that has been morphed into a corporate powerhouse of corruption an “old friend”. Copyright law is only what it is now, and shouldn’t be emphasized with for what it was for a tiny sliver of time.
5 likesTheguyonthetv 27 I’m talking about how YouTube is being destroyed by copyright. YouTube is the old friend in the analogy
1 likeHarry O'Byrne Neither is YouTube. YouTube only seeks to ensure that the site can legally exist and that copyright holders and advertisers are happy with the process of making money. They don’t care about independent creators and haven’t for a long time. Most people have to network a social media influence to make a decent profit off of their content while also being under the boot of copyright law and YT and others weird changes to the algorithm.
3 likesNot gonna lie, they had us in the first half
0 likesI believe the term's "Dark Humor".
0 likesMore like a child dying of cancer and not being able to live his final wish of seeing the blue skies of the countryside.
0 likesIt's beating the swept away ashes of a dead horse
0 likes@Sherlock did someone call ME?
0 likesCan you please stop wearing joker face paint irl? The locals are starting to complain
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Just now?
71 likes@Trash Man it's taken a while to get around
47 likesThats not face paint, that is the pure and utter molecular structure of pain inside his DNA. Eroding his outer organs and changing it into something more corrupt and dangerous.
132 likesI'm GONNA BREAK MY RUSTY CAAAAAGE AND RUN!
25 likesComplaints he can handle
7 likes@Randy Laffy Ayyy a man of culture, mob of the dead?
5 likesALL YOU EVER DO IS COMPLAIN
13 likesIs the clown version of the background music on your soundcloud?
4 likesMy kid hates him
2 likesYou can't spell paint without 🅿🅰🅸🅽.
17 likesRusty Cage
6 likes“All you ever do is complain”
lol
1 like@Alex Swin 2. I watched this, the whole thing, its akin to a train wreck full of screaming burning clowns, you just can't look away.
1 likeI think the pickle costume mitigated that.
1 likeWilliam Howard Taft
2 likesAll you ever do is complain.
1 likewhy sould the local complain? :D
1 likeHmm im copyrighting your picture whatever company copyrighted this comment&picture of commneter
1 likeALL YOU EVER DO IS COMPLAIN
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Nickelodeon holds a copyright over Tom Kenny's Spongebob voice acting.
4353 likesHis. Own. Voice.
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*Tom Kenny
40 likesYou think that’s bad, there’s this brand management company called Authentic Brands Group that holds likeness rights to dead celebrities like Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, and Muhammad Ali.
279 likes@Abyssal Boy FOR KHORNE
22 likesAbyssal Boy Now that’s just absurd.
15 likesThere was one episode of "Blue's Clues" where, for a brief moment, Steve does a silly Elvis impression. That episode in particular went unaired for an entire year while legal rights to the voice were negotiated. It's at this point when Nick should've realized copywriting a voice is a terrible idea that ruins everything for everyone, but NAH.
128 likesYare yare daze, ever since copyright appeared on YouTube, its been literal hell, and it technically ruined the platform
37 likesThat's how the law works!
27 likes@God Sammit oh no
9 likesI'm late to this chain but Disney did that with the voice actor for Snow White so that her voice would remain unique to the princess and basically meant the poor voice actress could never work again the the industry
49 likes@Otaku Person no no no This is more of a tzeench ordeal but above all
7 likesFOR MONTAZON
companies can own something YOU own. its kinda scary isnt it?
18 likes@Madison that's horrifying
6 likesThat's literally the stupidest form of copyright there is.
10 likes@Bri Granger that's just cruel and stupid. Like what's the point of that other than to ruin a career?
14 likesThat’s true for most voice actors that are employed by large companies.
9 likes@Danny Caracciolo
13 likesheres a step-by-step guide to do it
step 1: run for president
step 2: look for the most minor problem/war someone is already handling... lets say Russia.
step 3: in the war zone, make a no-fly zone
step 4: act surprised when Russia gets pissed about it
step 5: go to war
step 6: get a relative with no idea whats gonna happen and put them in the nuclear launch prevention system tons of other presidents tried to build.
step 7: make the system glitch out making it look like multiple nukes are coming
step 8: enter a fallout shelter
step 9: profit.
ALTERNATIVELY
step 1: become a celebrity (cardashian status or higher or it wont work)
step 2: point out false info and correct it
step 3: point out a ton of shady shit that happens all the time by Disney etc and give proof
step 4: tell the world if the show gets put offline due to "court stuff" (Disney etc suing you) that it means you were right and they should boycott them
step 5: run a fundraising campaign to show to the world what is happening.
step 6: show the world even more shit using advertisements
step 7: rise to HUGE wealth
step 8: start pulling some strings behind the scene yourself to correct everything
step 9: save your money and push multiple fundraisers to make the world a better place
step 10: using the money you saved, bribe the judges to undo most laws pushed to make their brands stay in their hands
step 11(a): win the battle, and get a foothold in the government where you can make country good again.
step 12(a): profit
step 11(b): lose the battle, and lose everything, but forcing the other companies to scramble, causing a breakdown as opinions by the higher ups are too divided to keep the company afloat, causing the weaker brands to fall, and the stronger ones to show their weak point, and showing to the mass public that they should not let them rise to that power, causing a mass riot and boycot of those brands, causing them to fall as well.
step 12(b): profit
@Mr. Moron Couldn't I just make a pact with some Eldritch god and have their madness engulf the earth?
6 likesNo wonder the reignited trilogy sounded different
3 likes@Bri Granger Looks like her entire career ended up not being worth it.
1 likeSurely it would be that they own the rights to Tom Kenny’s portrayal of Spongebob. Tom Kenny would be free to come up with other character voices, much like other voice actors would.
5 likesif tom kenny speaks in public he gets sued for copyright violation
3 likescounter argument: they paid tom kenny for the character voice and he agreed to the contract. he can still use a different voice for a different character in the future.
2 likesits the same thing as you commissioning an artist to paint a picture for you. you paid for the work, you oversaw its development and ordered changes to it to fit your goal, you deserve to own it
@Skipper Blue Counter counter argument: Someone accepting an employment contract does not make said contract just. Many professional voice actors star in dozens of roles throughout their careers, even talented voice actors have a limit to how many distinct voices they can do. Many VAs are cast for a particular role because of the way their voice sounds in the first place Eddie Murphy, Tom Hanks, Gilbert Gotfried, Arnold Schwarzenegar. If you weren't allowed to sound like any existing versions of your own voice, casting directors would never be able to use any of your work as a reference point.
5 likesYour painting metaphor is poorly conceived. A voice actor is commissioned to read scripts in the way that artists are to paint. The performance is the end product, as is the painting. Copyrighting a voice is more akin to copyrighting an artist's brushstroke tecnique.
What about the ai.15 voice synthesizer?
1 likeI’m alittle late to this comment, the funny thing is (as far as I know) he first used that voice in Mission Hill as a Star Wars actor who played an ewok.
1 likeNow voices are getting copywrited?
3 likes"WHAT IS THIS, THE SECRET COPYWRITING FACILITY? DAMN..... FUCK..... FUCK" - unused cj voice clip from San andreas
(oh wait, I'm getting copywrited claimed for that, but who cares anymore)
@Skipper Blue Still waiting for your response to USS Liberty....
1 like@Madison Interesting. Did Pixar have to get permission from them to use Muhammad Ali in Soul, since he's seen as one of 22's mentors?
0 likesImagine his life every day after work not being able to speak. Poor guy...
0 likeswell, that's not wrong exactly, I am quite sure the actor signed some contract. So there is nothing unreasonable there
0 likesMakes sense in my books
0 likesBro we really about to become mutes, how long until fucking ASL is copyrighted
0 likesunlike other artists, im sure he got payed handsomely
0 likesThis is two years late, but when it comes to animation, it is incrediably common for companies to own the voices of their actors/actresses. Ridiculous? Yes. But common none the less.
0 likesThat’s just fucked up.
0 likesI legit cannot stand copyright
609 likesA few months back a 5 year old died of cancer and his father wanted a spider man themed funeral to commemorate his son's hero, however disney didnt allow it, because they didnt want their brand to associated with death
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I remember that. He should have done it anyways and dared them to sue.
177 likesCan you even imagine how much damage that would have done to their brand? The irony would have been palpable.
oh my god.
60 likesOh my god.
Okay, that's it, I am not ever paying for a disney movie again.
That would be Trademark though, unless they were going to use a specific image to use.
12 likesTrademarks usually have to do with the “brand.”
@S_prite i never did lmao
13 likesIronic that a year later and Marvel would basically be a decomposing corpse.
25 likes@Player-87 Chad
2 likes@S_prite well if you don’t pay for a Disney movie there will be no more movies.
0 likesI’m a big Nintendo fan but I hate what they have done.
But I still buy games because they make good games.
Remember, not everybody in the company is an asshole.
Can I have a shotgun.
4 likesBruh the reason Spider-Man exists in the first place is because Uncle Ben dies
17 likesMy condolences for you and your family.
0 likesOn a similar note, at least it was a good thing he checked, I remember someone being sued after someone saw there kids superhero themed tombstone and in the end had to replace it and pay a fine..
5 likes@AwesomeDud3
4 likesI guess Uncle Ben didn’t really die, he just disappeared with “DiSnEY mAgIc”
@Clay Miller yeah.
0 likesremember how a large part of Walt Disney's start in the industry was painting characters of fighter jets in ww2?
0 likes@Jesus pirate the games instead
0 likesMake an open source iteration of it
0 likesCorrect me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Sony owns the Spider-Man ip right?
0 likesBecause, if there's one thing Peter "Lost His Parents, Uncle, Best Friend And At Least Two Girlfriends" Parker should never be associated with, is death.
0 likesWHAT THE FUCK THOUGH THEY'VE MADE SO MANY MOVIES ASSOCIATED WITH DEATH
1 like@temfx Sony owns the movie rights to Spider-Man, Disney owns the rest as there have been Spider-Man cartoons on Disney networks
0 likes@Jared Johnson Oh ok thanks for correcting me🙏🏾
0 likesYou know its really bad when you buy a godamn physical copy of a game (original), for the console you bought (ps4), you use the native recording function, have your time spent on studying the game, the region of it, making a sort of review of it, enhancing it on the native ps4 editor, and uploads it from the console through its native interface to youtube. And get copyright striked not by the music , nor by the game maker, but from IGN !!!
1095 likesLiterally i would be kinda okay with it if it was the music the game played tha looked like pretty much copyrighted material in the scene after the piece that was claimed, or even that ubisoft that made the actuall game, but no, i was copyrighted because one scene of the game appeared in IGN's trailer for THAT GAME , how tf is even IGN holder of the copyright of the game??
I bought that damn thing, used the cherrypicked sony recording function that only allows what sony wants to be recorded, and yet i was copyright claimed by a company that has nothing to do with neither the game or its actual copyright holder.
(The game was far cry 4, the scene was the beggining of the game where you are kidnapped into Pagan Min's hellicopter with a rag on your face).
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That's how the law works! You ready to rebel yet?
108 likes@Tom Hill So.. the law allows a random company to say it has the copyright to a material it hasn't done?
96 likesAnd the law can break its own rules with the fair usage act?
Nah i don't think so.
If ubisoft did flag me, as i said, i would be fine with it, after all, they made the game, the trailers for the game. Not a random shit youtube channel wanting to profit on other person's videos.
Detail, i wans't making a single penny out of the works of ubisoft! Bur ign can make money out of my and ubisoft's work? What?
And no, i'm not willing to reb agains laws, but against shitty companies wich use and abuse of breachs in the law.
@Eduardo Avila É foda manin, mas eu to fazendo esse comentário só pra te dizer que eu sei que tu é br.
6 likes@【 Chilael 】 É issae véi, foda mesmo. Desisti de gravar far cry 4 depois dessa.
7 likesE percebi o quanto a ign é grande e tbm sacana.
Ela fez isso em vários vídeos de gente q criticava ela tbm.
abolish corporations
21 likesYou should appeal it, and explain it... usually it gets cleared up! I've done that multiple times last week, since I started my daily morning show
6 likes@Ruustic I think i tried to do that in the past, but it got denied.
18 likesAnyway i deleted my youtube channel because i didn't like the way it was going anyways.
I still dislike IGN tho.
@Eduardo Avila
0 likesPoha ai fode mesmo, tomara que no futuro essas compania que fica usando area cinza da lei pra ganhar dinheiro acabem sendo multadas ou outra coisa assim
Eduardo Avila This is the classic case of a misguided terrorized non-radical. You refuse to rebel against a government who institutes laws and has its ties directly in the same pie as corporations (they make money when corporations make money utilizing their laws and system, as well as getting direct gratification knowing their system is being justified by that same corporate conglomerate when they utilize it to claim content) but you’ll gladly fight a losing a battle, i.e. wipe the make up off the corporations faces by exposing their indiscriminate and arguably disingenuous use of the copyright system, instead of just attacking the root source of the issue, that being the government that will defend corporations that utilize this broken system to the day it dies simply to gain more revenue and justification for its existence.
16 likesPeople that fail to realize, or refuse to accept in some cases, the fact that corporations and government are one in the same, are the same people that will fight to the teeth about a specific partisan issue, but will refuse to acknowledge just how bad their own partisan ideas and ideals are on society. The left-right paradigm of politics has us fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting elite conglomerate that want to see us fail. The center left is anti-government but pro-corporation, they want the government to stop fighting pointless money wars but they won’t bat an eye at corporations utilizing children or underpaying workers as long as they get their fair share of the outcome. The center right is fairly anti-corporation, they believe corporations are against American ideals and that the underpayment of workers is an inherent flaw to the American economy, while in the same vein allowing the government to pursue pointless and harmful wars and excursions because “muh freedom and democracy.” Instead of just being aware of both of the issues laid out and realizing that both corporations and government have their own interests in mind, not our own as the people, they fight to ignore the issues in their own ideals while indiscriminately attacking the other side for being wrong entirely. And this is just on the average, centerist American view, not even touching on the radicalized and politicized far right and left ideologies that plague internet spheres and college campuses alike.
We’re coming to a head, whether it’s with all the current events that have occurred over the past few months or if it’s because of a growing bubble waiting to be popped within the radical sphere that’s been waiting to pop for years, there’s no denying that the political landscape of the Western world has been on the steady decline in terms of actually getting anything done and helping the people that need it the most. The inevitable ultimatum is the agreement of all that the government has done and the fact that it is simply misguided steps in an end goal of helping the population, which I argue is a willfully ignorant and, in a sense, stupidly optimistic outlook, or you agree that what the government has been doing to the population for decades is in fact not a place that we should be seeing ourselves head and that we must take a stance against it entirely or simply let it consume our society until we’ve got no choice but to submit to its monopolistic tendencies. The choice is given, now you must choose.
Possible bcz YT copy(no)right system allows it and its stupidly easy to abuse
1 likewho is IGN?
0 likesSame eith castle crashers uploaded a video of the ending at it was copy right claimed for music FROM THE GAME
0 likesWho else is astonished by the fact that you never knew that copyrights expired after some time and became public domain? It’s almost like some people don’t want you to know that
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With how many extensions the mouse has gotten by greasing palms and extorting, it might as well be never.
423 likessup them. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!
26 likesOh I knew and that's what makes copyright issues more annoying to think about.
36 likes@Joe yee
1 likeWe had to learn that in school but I thought it was 100 years rather than 70.
30 likesLol I'm not sure what you mean.. There are adults that don't know about the public domain? What? That's some pretty damn secluded people. Have you never bought those DVD packs back in the early 2000s with like 30 movies on them from different studios and wondered how that's possible?..
36 likesI only know that it expires some time after the artists death because the Bethoven family was in the news tryna do something about it
17 likesshortening it to 27 years after creation or whatever it was originally would be so much better
i knew public domain existed, just saw the over 100 year count, and wondered "What in the world, who decided this?"
32 likesAnd now I know.
@Marek Adams now you've stared into the abyss & realised, that you've been inside it all this time.
17 likesan unexpected downward spiral.
Information about public domain has always been available, theres no money to be made it letting people know stuff is public domain so people arent shouting about it.
29 likesWhats the real bad thing is how they’re constantly and quietly trying to extend it indefinitely just to squeeze money out of anything created, forever after it was created.
I mainly knew about it from stuff like internet Archive and being a history nerd. Fun fact, as of 2020, works from 1924 will be in the public domain because copywrite lasts 96 years. I'm sure everyone is happy to be able to use Hinky Dinky Parley Voo in their videos. Of course, assuming another company hasn't made a cover of it and renewed its copywrite.
25 likesJust checked. It looks like Hinky Dinky Parley Voo had its copywrite renewed in 2018 by IMI. Sad times all around. Guess we have to wait another 94 years.
28 likesThem cough cough Disney cough cough.
8 likes@Timivision Ooh, Checkmark! That's a good one.
2 likes@JOD silence verified account
5 likes"And why should copyrights expire!? The very notion is ridiculous - expiration of property. Like imagine if you own a house and your ownership of it expired after 20 years, after which anyone could move in for free! Or if your car became "public domain" if you don't drive it for a week." -- some absolute bellend in Disney.
28 likesThem
3 likesHappy Birthday has left the chat
This information is public domain, also common sense.
3 likesI mean, it’s pretty accessible information. You can literally look it up in the web.
1 likeI've known that things go into the public domain, but I had NO idea that the public domain itself had been made to progress so slowly, and that the copyright laws were extended so vastly and egregiously. The obvious stain of corporate interest permeates even creative protection, how sad.
6 likes@Bilb Ono Bootlegging is how that's possible. Those people live in a van, good luck suing them, they'll move.
4 likes@Tom Hill no public domain is how that's possible. I'm not talking about bootlegs, im talking about the DVDs in walmart or target that are obviously legal products. They use public domain movies so they cant be sued. I'm well aware of bootlegs (especially in the music world, but also in film) and that's not what I'm referring to.
9 likes@Please Respond who ever (if anyone) thinks that way is either willfully ignorant or just ignorant. A non-sequitur in its truest and most pure form...
5 likesIf you've ever taken an entry level media course, this is week 2 info. Including the proper information about the public domain and songs like "Happy Birthday" are in the public domain despite the fact that this video mischaracterized that bit of info.
3 likes@Please Respond Yes. The fault in that comparison is the fact that intellectual property is not property. If I copy a song to my computer, then I'm not touching the creator's stuff, I'm just rearranging my own bits on my own computer. The creator will still get to keep his song. So a better comparison would that if I did not drive for a week then other people would be allowed to copy my car or buy the same model. Or if I own a house then after 20 years other people would be allowed to make copies of my house.
4 likesnot me
0 likesI am amazed at how many people don't know that, it's actually intuitive.
0 likesNice comment-like bots you have
0 likessarah kerr why would I do anything for Internet numbers
0 likes@Them because pepole cant get 2,4K comments in 2 weeks
0 likes@JOD CEASE YOUR HERESY
0 likesThe only reason I know that is through YouTubers talking about Tylenol
0 likesthey taught that in school...
0 likes@Noods and Co good news, the rat is gonna be public domain soon
0 likesi knew it already because this isn't the first time it has been brought up
0 likesYou really never knew that?
2 likesRemember:
23 likesYou can always pirate films, TV programs, music, books, and audiobooks
And
It is always morally correct
The "law" is basically just whoever can abuse the system will, and everyone else gets shit on
331 likesKinda like rich people and tax evasion
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at least it stops my neighbors to murder me in cold blood
9 likes@S_prite Does it?
16 likes@Kurt it discourages them at least
9 likes@jooot_ It honestly doesn't.
3 likes@Kurt Really? Why aren't murder rates higher, then?
3 likes@jooot_ Because, at least in the US, most people have fucking guns.
8 likes@Kurt what abt places outside of the US? much as we like to imagine, it is not the center of the universe...
2 likes@jooot_ Doesn't stop anything. Relying on the piggies is a bad idea.
8 likes@Kurt When did I ever say that?
2 likes@jooot_ People, typically, don't wanna murder others. I'm gonna be honest, this ain't really shocking.
8 likesWhat seperates a government from a gang? What seperates theft from tax? What seperates murder from government admistered lethal injection? what seperates gang violence from war? Governments and gangs are only seperated by their power. Although, we cannot survive effectively without co-operation and at least a small amount of government, so why not remove all things that make the government bad? Why have presidents and prime ministers when we can have a direct democracy instead where people are much freer than now? It's because direct democracy only works on smaller scales, so maybe representatives with no actual power who are picked by random and stay for only about a week?
0 likesuhhhh oh no I should stop rambling to myself about Anarchy
What seperates a government from a gang? What seperates theft from tax? What seperates murder from government admistered lethal injection? what seperates gang violence from war? Governments and gangs are only seperated by their power. Although, we cannot survive effectively without co-operation and at least a small amount of government, so why not remove all things that make the government bad? Why have presidents and prime ministers when we can have a direct democracy instead where people are much freer than now? It's because direct democracy only works on smaller scales, so maybe representatives with no actual power who are picked by random and stay for only about a week?
1 likeuhhhh oh no I should stop rambling to myself about Anarchy
@jooot_ yeah america wants to be number one for every possible thing (including bad stuff)
1 like@goon AMERICA NUMBER 1 USA USA USA
1 like@jooot_ exactly! We are number 1 always in every way and if you say otherwise then you are wrong
1 likeBasically, the public domain is suffering dreadfully and the corporations don't care
0 likes11:34
887 likesTo put that into perspective, Hawaii was still an independent nation in 1893. It was the year Huey Long was born. The world's first motion picture studio had just finished construction. The world's first college basketball game had occurred. Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire still had another 2 decades of life left. The Congo Free State was still around (the one run by Leopold II). The Orange Free State was still around. The Utah war was still a matter of debate. The very first Parliament of the World's Religions was hosted. Happy Birthday was published the same year as all of this, and it is STILL in copyright.
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Utah war?
7 likes@Tom Hill It was a war between the nation of Utah and the United States. Utah was founded as a Mormon nation after the Mormons were kicked out of the USA. The US won the war in 1858, and Utah did not become a state until 1896. From that time, a lot of issues sprang up between Mormons and the Federal Government, especially over polygamy.
87 likes@Intergalactic Human Empire ....are you for real? ...so, Utah is a rebel state then? Do they have statues of their generals like the south does for when they rebelled?
17 likes@Tom Hill Yep! Brigham Young, leader of the Mormons against the US, has quite a few statues to himself in Salt Lake City.
63 likesWe deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893.
43 likesimagine if criminal law was just as fucked as copyright law, we'd be fucked. thankfully that isn't the case.
@Caiden-Lee Goode 1893 predated ww1 ww2 and the scramble for africa.
14 likes@Intergalactic Human Empire Some things never change.
1 like@Ethan W Monster If Criminal law was as fucked up we'd rebel. It's not as predatory because criminal law cannot SURVIVE, being as predatory.
15 likesOttoman Empire technically died at 1923 when Republic was declared so it had three decades not two.
4 likes@Ethan W Monster We deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893 that we had absolutely nothing to do with creating.
6 likesJust thought that should be in there.
The ottoman empire one really hits the point home.
6 likesIt's not though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status
5 likesThe people who did claim copyright claimed the copyright on the lyrics*, because the notes published in 1893 and shown in the video *are in the public domain. Even worse, the court ruled the song public domain not because it's past it's due date, but because no one could prove the actual owners of the copyright for the lyrics.
When this video released, all works from the year 1923 were coming into the public domain. Nothing from 1893 is still eligible for copyright.
>It was the year Huey Long was born.
5 likesEVERY MAN A KING
The Spanish Empire was still an Empire with holdings in the Americas and the Pacific
4 likesAnother way to put it in prespective, 1893 is 33 YEARS BEFORE SLICED BREAD WAS INVENTED!
5 likesSo what you're saying is...
5 likesSomebody should claim copyright on Hawaii.
The happy birthday song is uncopyrighted as of 2016, so the last thing you said isn't true. But still, I agree, that is totally insane.
4 likesHUEY LONG THE KINGFISH HIMSELF
1 like@shelvacu the copyright was only invalidated in 2016, this is still fucking absurd
1 likeLITERALLY NO LIVING PERSON ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN ROCK WAS EVEN ALIVE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE.
2 likesNOBODY ALIVE WAS THERE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE
A N D I T S T I L L W A S N ' T I N T H E P U B L I C D O M A I N U N T I L 2 0 1 6
Holy shit the ottoman empire
1 likeAlso 1893 was 20 years before the Wild West ended and three years after the Wounded Knee massacre aka the last battle between the US Army and native Americans.
1 likeThe purpose of copyright given in the Constitution is “to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” Originally, the idea of granting monopolies to artists and inventors was seen as something of a necessary evil to be tolerated for a short while in order to promote knowledge, science, art, and discoveries into the public domain quickly. In other words, the expansion of the public domain was the intent of copyright, with temporary artistic monopoly being a tool used to achieve it. Now, public domain has been all but legislated away and preserving/expanding the monopoly is the goal (life + 70 years).
296 likesIt's literally the same 3 corporations licensing out all of humanity's works from the past 100 years to the other 2 corporations, and suing all of humanity daily for uttering anything more than the name of the work, in any context, with any amount of references to the work.
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Well, even the name of the work isn’t safe now.
15 likes90% of the entire media belong to the same 6 persons. Check it up, you will be scared.
21 likesI’ve always hated how it worked a reaction Channel can’t put on The music from the game or the video because it’s copyrighted like W H A T????. That doesn’t make a lick a damn sense
4 likesI hate to break it to you but legal constructions like copyright law are just another way that capitalism reinforces itself. The notion of 'private property' and copyright law are intrinsically linked. It was never about promoting knowledge, science and art, instead these regulations were designed to commodify more of human labour. Copyright law isnt just a joke, its a travesty that is sucking the life from humanity
2 likes@Harrison Moore Bro don't make being anti-copyright cringe. The "Capitalism-Communism" dichotomy is outdated and inadequate. Communism requires enforcement in order to stop people from trading or owning things; the enforcers necessarily must be inherently unequal from the enforced. Neoliberal laissez-faire capitalism allows foreign governments and companies to buy up your own country's land, businesses, and lawmakers, and impoverish your people by offering cheaper labor alternatives that stagnate their wages for decades (Hart-Celler Act passes, wages stop rising).
7 likesI am shocked at how unsecure our works are.
0 likes@Harrison Moore Absurdly long copyright law is more fascist than capitalist.
0 likes@Will Black oh yeah no doubt. Fascism is a very extreme form of capitalism in a number of ways, particularly in this instance
1 like@Harrison Moore Fascism is equally as compatible with communism, if not more. The fact that you chose to ignore Metro's comment is telling.
1 like@Cosmic Trey i ignored metros comment because I never advocated for communism in my original comment. I was criticising capitalism. Stop trying to deflect criticism onto other economic structures
0 likes@Harrison Moore You don't have to say the word 'communism' for it to be obvious what you're advocating for. There is no 'deflecting' going on, you are linking the ideas of private property and 100-year long copywrites as if the former necessitates the latter. If there's no private property, then who's deciding who deserves what? There's a reason that 'redistribution' has has a clear end historically.
1 likeYou're allowed to criticize whatever you want. It's not like we live in a fascist society. But unconstructive criticism is just that.
Criticising something isnt the same as advocating for something else. If you cant figure out how critical frameworks work then this discussion is pointless. Your argument is a stupid way of deflecting criticism by saying 'well the alternative is w-worse!'. That's not an argument, thats infantile and disingenuous. Learn how criticism works and then you can argue your points
0 likes@Harrison Moore 'infantile' is continuing to argue that something is being argued wrong without actually addressing anything. Part of being an adult is knowing that blind idealism that doesn't consider ultimate consequences is tragic. But sure, I'm the one being disingenuous.
1 likeInstead of the incumbent copyright law, how about the following:
0 likes1. The initial copyright monopoly is 15 years + a 15 year extension if you apply for it.
2. If you decide that something you created should be taken out of the public domain, then you have to go through the same application process to take it out of the public domain as you did for the extension, with a maximum period out of the domain of two years, and you, or a company you are affiliated with must release a product that prominently features the piece of media that was taken out.
3. Once a piece of media is old enough to be in the public domain, it can be taken out only once for a maximum of two years and with no extensions.
4. If someone plans to take something out of the public domain for another release, then the initial creator must inform all online uploaders of the content that they are aware of that they are about to release a new product with the copyrighted material in it within nine months before removing the material (ex: if you upload a rom of a game that is about to be featured in a re-release, then inform those who uploaded the rom that it will be taken down on the release date, as well as when it will be eligible to be re-uploaded without copyright violation).
5. Taking something out of the public domain, and proceeding to do nothing with the copyrighted material taken out in the two years after removal will result in a fine paid directly to anyone whose online content was removed.
Implementing a law like this and executing it properly would progress the public domain to 1992, would allow rightsholders who plan on reusing an old property to remove it from the public domain only once, and for two years (most major works have probably made a lot of their money by then), and would hold them accountable for any misuse of the removal of properties from the public domain.
“The law is on the books, but it would take all their resources to enforce it.”
402 likes–Calvin and Hobbes, 25/02/1995
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BOOOOOIIIIIIII you rock
0 likes25 months???
0 likes@PETRIXXX 25th day
1 like@PETRIXXX The rest of the world uses DD/MM/YYYY like sensible, logical people should. US date order is fucked up.
0 likesAnd no, MM/DD/YYYY isn't justifiable on the basis that it follows the spoken order of dates ("April 30th, 2022"), because you don't say "The fourth, the thirtieth" in speech, so encoding dates in writing following that order makes no fucking sense.
/rant
@John Gardner Calm down my ni99a, it was a joke. Also, our way of dates is superior because without MM/DD/YYYY, we would never get 4/20.
0 likes@PETRIXXX Sorry, I can no longer tell self-aware Americans from the ones who genuinely believe Fahrenheit isn't a completely broken system.
0 likes@John Gardner foreign ni99as when i use 69 degrees instead of 9.6 kilojungers
0 likesThis series has been an extremely productive way to get people to understand frustrations of content creators, and the history behind copyright. Nice job man, thanks again.
238 likes5:19 The patent system has been completely corrupted as a tool of corporate power as well, hiring a lawyer to file and defend a patent costs indvidual inventors infeasible amounts of money. Patents are also the reason why things such as insulin are so ridiculously expensive, companies can make slight modifications to retain their monopoly over the invention and prevent competition and innovation just like with copyright.
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I was actually discussing patent laws and insulin with a friend before you wrote this comment.
4 likeswhat a funny coincidence.
The thing with insulin, some guy made it with hope and good will in mind, a corporate bought the rights to it and here we are now 100 years later
15 likesThe problem isn’t the patients though, for insulin the issue is that every batch needs to be clinically tried because it’s biological production is less consistent then chemical production (like how aspirin is made).
0 likesYouTube in 2020: "The oxygen in this video is copyrighted."
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i cant breath.
10 likesMoneyBlitz95
7 likesGood,you’d be using copyrighted content
I can’t wait for “oxygen smuggling” to become a thing
9 likesthe disaster of july 2020
3 likeslorax vibes
2 likes@Zachary Combs it only gets worse.
1 likeThe Problem is it's not youtubes fault
0 likesIf youtube denies a copyright strike the are the ones to fight it and that will get way to expensive so
It's how the law works
@السراق المجهول Good ideas
2 likesI’ll just go develop gills, be right back
oh fu
1 likeSend help.
1 likeFun fact! Noisestorm will not use the crab rave in his new game, due to fears that it would get copyrighted in gameplay videos of the game. HIS OWN SONG.
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Fear being punished for using your own artistic work? Cringe!
831 likeshi lettuce. we like fortnite! we like fortniteee!
50 likes@JOD I have a feeling this isnt true...
167 likesBut knowing youtube, this can become a reality
To be fair American McGee got copystruck for doing a Let's Play of Alice: Madness Returns. You know, a game he helped make.
304 likes@Choo trust me it's true. I remember when the news came out about it
18 likes@Cyan Giorgio Don't worry, the laws protect the artists
90 likesHow dare he use his own song
49 likes@How To Defeat ISIS 101 no it was partly owned by someone else
15 likesand isin't crab rave also free to use for everyone, at least for stuff like youtube vids?
34 likesIt happens. My boy Vinny was talking about his band Red Vox getting a claim on one of his own vids. Its because its all automated.
55 likesThat isn't even a "fun" fact!
9 likesThe music label Monstercat does claim videos but doesn’t strike them, there’s an entire community on using their music but they sometimes claim it, they don’t block videos but claim the revenue. There’s more info about copyright on their website.
36 likesChoo look at what he is streaming
2 likesIt's because all songs released on Monstercat are automatically added to YT song match system
7 likesRemember when TheFatRat got copyright claimed for a song be uploaded?
30 likes@eastsport pick up a Monstercat creator licence. That is what content creators do to use their songs freely. In fact with this you could use some of marshmallows earlier songs.
14 likes@How To Defeat ISIS 101 this is such a troll
2 likesR E A S E B L E L A W S
6 likesSource?
2 likes@MOOB Breezy it's on the discord server for crab champions, the game hes making.
3 likes@TastyHam Monstercat Gold. $5/mo. It is some kind of the radio-like licensing that AmpLemon talked in the vid. You pay 5 dollars per month and you can use nearly all of the songs released on Monstercat in your streams/vids without copyright claims. (Some of the songs can't be used becuz of complex licensing, but standard releases like Crab Rave can be used without much worry) I personally would recommend it if you like electronic music and create content for YouTube or stream on Twitch/Mixer.
11 likes@DatOneCommie IronGEAR I do remember like Monstercat disabling content id for Crab Rave but I am not too sure
0 likes@Choo Hey, remember when TheFatRat got copyright struck for using his own song on the same platform? Yes, it's entirely true, plausible and has happened.
2 likesIf I was a game designer using my own music in my own game, I would just put a screen in the game giving permission for use in creators' gameplay videos.
3 likes@VyProductions Except that's not how it works. The label you release the songs on technically owns part of the license that's on your songs. You need your own permission and that of the label you're currently contracted to in order to do this. If you have a flexible contract, so you only license tracks released to them, it's different, but in the case of Crab Rave(released on the Monstercat label), Noisestorm has to technically contact Monstercat and ask them for permission then file his own permission and then he's allowed to use it in his game and make the permissions screen allowing others to stream it via the game.
0 likes@Hangman Official This is only true for those that release their songs through a label.
2 likes@Hangman Official Obviously I am no artist, but there must be artists who own 100% of the music they create.
2 likes@VyProductions Yes, artists like me who are unsigned(10 years and rolling, I'm not crying, you're crying!). But we're talking about Crab Rave, a song licensed to a label. Noisestorm needs Monstercat's permission if he'd want to use it in his game. That's why he's using unlicensed music he made specifically for the game instead as to avoid having to ask for permission for his own music. So let me say again: Crab Rave is not 100% owned by Noisestorm, it's partially licensed to Monstercat, therefore he needs permission from Monstercat in order to use it for anything.
3 likesReminds me of how you're not allowed to re-use your own materials that you wrote for other classes in university, ie, you can't re-use your own essay if you somehow had two different classes where you had to write two essays. Self-plagarization is actually a thing. I took an advanced bio course where he had the same questions as another class, so I asked if I could re-use my old materials and he was fine with it, but you actually have to ask for permission
5 likesThat reminds me of the time a guy was live streaming his own game and was wrongfully copyright struck for it
0 likesHow can it be copyrighted by people who don't own it
1 like@Cyan Giorgio erm, kinda cringe.
0 likes@JOD burger king foot lettuce
1 likeNoods and Co he didn’t just help make it his name was on the series. It was AMERICAN McGees Alice: The Madness Returns.
4 likesDude quite literally made the game and had his name on it and still got struck.
Thats how the law works
0 likesAt least the game makers looking out for the creators
0 likesSad
0 likesPornhub is more kind to its creators than YouTube can ever be
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I lol'd
33 likesI'd say we all move to Pornhub
166 likesPornhub should just make its own version of Youtube
217 likesThats ironically true
43 likes1un4cy
61 likesPornhub is basically YouTube with porn
@Phoenix Porn hub should move into You-tubes territory if it's so great...I wonder why it hasn't.
26 likesSex trafficers are better people than big Corpos. Nothing new
35 likesPornhub is so incredibly kind to it's creators that when a man posted videos of himself having sex with an underaged girl he abducted for 18 months, they didn't even kick him off the site. In fact, they actively paid him for it.
108 likes@Carolingian source?
9 likes@Carolingian
4 likesi'm gonna need a link on that
@Carolingian ya I'm going to need some proof for that, That kinda thing is not something I can take on face value
10 likesnice jvnko pfp
4 likesPornhub could totally make a youtube rival. They have the money and are well known.
1 likethey keep finding reasons to make premium free
1 likeso true
0 likes@D Zuke yea me too, I don't understand the argument, if pornhub be youtube they will implement youtube system so they don't go bankrupt because all of the corporation sue them
5 likeswell, ive acidentally seen porn on youtube...
2 likesUnfortunately, it’s so kind that it’ll let people keep up videos of 15-year-old girls who were originally passed off as adults.
4 likes@Phoenix so just a better yt but without toxic kids?
0 likes@1un4cy tubehub
1 likeHoly damn, you're right. In theory, you could use almost any scene from a porn movie in your videos as long as it doesn't show nudity or anything like that.
0 likesMake a yt that has no limits try to keep porn to minimum and nudity is allowed so play any game and copyright has nothing on anyone and curse as much as u want or talk about hentai or gore and anything see where I’m going at
0 likesI say we should take youtube, and push it to pornhub!
1 likeI agree
0 likes@Mate Product why do you hate porn?
0 likes@Mate Product understandable.
0 likesthis is a lie
2 likesWell...
28 likesThat comment aged like milk.
@Apogee Kaiten Sadly yes. While sure sour milk is safe to drink... Would you really want to?
6 likeshot babe :
6 likesin front of me on screen naked
Me: how is she playing copywritten music? where can I learn this power?
That aged poorly
15 likesah, well, about that...
18 likesoof, didn't age great
8 likessorry to say, but that didn’t age well
6 likesThis didn't age very well 😬
8 likes@BurntBacon well its kind of hard to verify ages on videos. Anyone could just walk in and say "lol I got raped take this video down" but I dunno.
5 likesGotta love how Pornhub was an incredibly useful and underrated platform, and now it's all screwed up because the Legacy media decided it would be fun to do a hitpiece on it and feed into the Twitter crowd. God it's like nothing can ever be wild west forever... it's like nothing can ever be fun so long as there are people out there who actively wish to tear it down.
11 likesthat aged well
4 likes@1un4cy the same rules would apply
0 likesI don’t think youtube literally rapes its employees
4 likes@Carolingian Ha ha...?
0 likes@Sue Zuccati What happened?
0 likes@kittykittybangbang they made a purge on unverified content
4 likesThis comment aged like a milk. TBH, glamoring Pornhub for "being better" was always stupid. It was matter of time before things change.
13 likesr/ agedlikemilk
0 likesAh, Aged like a fine milk.
3 likesdidn't age well
3 likesThis aged like milk
1 likethat did not age well
0 likesI’m not sure why there are people complaining about what kind of things get posted to PH and what Creators get verified/single boosted. YT has identical issues lol, like for years…
0 likesThat didn't age well sadly.
0 likesA suggestion for part 4: In Germany it even went so far that for many years pretty much ALL music videos and videos containing copyrighted music were ENTIRELY BLOCKED because the local collecting society, the GEMA (who is also a big topic on its own because of their general infamous practices in Germany), just wanted to milk the shit out of Youtube similar to Viacom back then. According to a study it went up to a whooping 61.5% of the 1000 most viewed videos (yeeees, 615 of 1000 videos) were ENTIRELY GEOBLOCKED in Germany due to Copyright bullshit. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany
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Holy shit how did I not remember that.
4 likesI have only faint memories of GEMA blocks on some videos.
Well never stopped hating those assholes though
Even as someone who owns a label, releases his own music and owns all that shit, my childhood attachment to things like YTPoop and other early YT content has also made me similarly radical.
78 likesLiterally why I took the initiative to do it myself rather than grind until some major sees me. At least this way if someone uses me as an outro or one of my beats as background, they all good and if something did go wrong, it'd be up to me to handle it not some faceless suits.
P.S. i do love to hear you complain but I subbed cause your earnhardt video made a room full of grown men cry, none of which like racing.
The companies are greedy for money, I mean they already make TONS of money from what thing they sell.
55 likesStill the happy birthday song being copyright claimed is next level insanity
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protest
0 likesYou are the companies, John.
1 likeSeriously. These are publicly traded corporations. If their stock price goes up, that pleases their shareholders. Regular arse people like you.
So they will do anything to make them stonks grow.
Jt just so happens, that tbe best way to ensure profitable business is to establish a totalitarian oligarchy.m
You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.
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Good idea actually…
1 likeWait, I’m doing that. That’s incredibly smart…
1 likeExcept can multiple companies make claims on one video too?
Remember that scene in the Simpsons when Grandpa used a potato gag to impress Marge's mum but was instantly forced by a lawyer to stop or else he'd get a lawsuit.
195 likesThat's all i need to say.
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Disney not only OWNS that joke now, but ALSO is making it REALITY! the Simpsons truly predicts everything
7 likes@Mr. Moron the simpsons didn't predict anything, copyright has just been stagnant that long. Simpsons wasn't predicting the future, it was making fun of the past
18 likesIt's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it
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:c
1 likeAt least when you're writing fiction, there's a lot more freedom to come up with new, original ideas (as in there's generic fictional genres that you can use as starting templates to build your own worlds and shit). Like, I've been doing creative writing related stuff in my free time for about 10 or so years now, so creating worlds from scratch on pen and paper isn't super hard for me.
18 likesBut yeah, YouTube definitely gets the short end of the stick as far as copyright abuse goes along with just the music industry in general. Both of those are incredibly fucked, and you even have entire genres built around sampling stuff in both scenes (ie: YTP and vaporwave). Imagine if magazine companies copyrighted each issue of a magazine they made in order to hound people who make collages out of them (because, y'know, collages take magazines and transform them into art). That's basically what the movie and music industry does to both YTPs and vaporwave. Although, in the case of vaporwave, the scene is underground enough that they aren't really dealing with any legal battles yet. I do think that once that happens and they win out in court, we'll start to see some actual change in the battle against greedy copyright laws.
That’s How the Law Works! That never gets old. I really hope our Copyright system improves.
5 likesWell gamers. Time to try singing the ABCs without being copyrighted claimed
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hippity hopity that song is my property
110 likesGive us money. We are UMG
17 likes"Public Daycare Sued Millions!"
26 likesYou absolute mad lad! Each letter is going to cost you 15 bucks!
18 likes@Paolo I'm not paying.
7 likesKNOCKKNOCKKNOCK FBI OPEN UP
2 likes🔪
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0 likes*sings Twinkle Twinkle Little Star instead*
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0 likes@TheSpitefulCapitalist E
0 likesf in the chat
0 likesIn B4 that's no longer public domain
0 likes@Marksmithwas12 Dead Space PTSD
0 likesREPORTED
0 likestrying to play 300 year old songs without multi-billion dollar companies suing you
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0 likesA- oh ** the fbi is at my door
0 likes@HATroo H
0 likesABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ- *copyright claim*
0 likesA
0 likesZ
0 likesLol
0 likes@saddened man face from ROBLOX we are trying to make a buck because we don't have enough to spare
0 likesFailed the challenge. I got sued by the English language and lost all my money. Gonna start a new game and try again…
0 likesLawful evil people rule the world we need more chaotic good to balance it.
102 likesand less old idiots making laws.
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would you rather have the corps make them? trust me, if those old farts die, the power is going to the CORPS, using their power. NOT the people. we have to elect a good president soon, or we will live in a dystopia (which is implying we are not already living in one, which i think we do)
8 likesHonestly we need politicians like new zealand's prime minister
2 likes@You Squidding Me? the president has to aprove the laws. If you get a good president those laws will be harder to pass
0 likesAren't senators more important than the president in law creation? I mean, the president don't has as much power as people usually think that he has.
1 likeYou know what they say the smartest thing you can do in youtube?
222 likes"They can't copyright strike me if I copyright strike myself"
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Could you prevent other people from claiming you by using alt accounts to claim your work? Does that do anything?
8 likes@Merfolk Surprise companies still can copyright claim you, but you will split the revenue with the company
20 likesThere are actually people who did it. Record a song, make sure to be the owner of that song (legally and for youtube), and play it as the outro or intro in every video, just to then copystrike yourself and get at least half of the revenue yourself.
29 likesPunocchio that's just beyond ridiculous
4 likes@T. Reza Budiansyah ikr
0 likestheres a method called the "copyright deadlock" in which you get your video claimed by 2 or more companies so now none of them can claim the video. Its actually possible to get a deadlock with just one company but 2 of its divisions, for example having both nintendo of america and nintendo of japan claim your video
10 likes@Video Games are Cool What happens in the case of a copyright deadlock?
0 likes@Punocchio no body gets money. you make no money off of the video, but at least no corporation will be able to make money off the video as well. Usefull for when you know a video is gonna be claimed
10 likes@Punocchio nothing gets monetized iirc.
0 likesIdea: copyright yourself several times over under different names and get a reasonable amount of revenue
0 likesOh boy I cant wait to listen to songs from 1890's in the 2020's! I'm so excited to see what enters the Public Domain this decade!
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Hurrian Hymn No. 6 finally enters public domain after 3 4 0 0 years
8 likesBig props to people who immediately make their works public domain.
13 likesYou're keeping this sinking ship afloat.
You and Internet Historian are the two people I will follow to the ends of the internet if and when YouTube crashes and burns.
1732 likesEdit: scratch the “if” part.
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Me too buddy
10 likeshi space. we like fortnite. we like fortnite.
6 likes"If"
15 likes@Cigar yeah more like when
2 likesCigar right, that’s a big IF.
3 likesagree 100%
0 likesbut i also own shares of Disney so I'm kind of a hypocrite....
I hope they created a bitchute account
2 likes@JOD keep doing god's work
2 likesDon't forget Nerd City
1 likeIt's not a matter of "if," only "when."
2 likesI'm sure Both of Them are on bitchute or should be.
1 likeThe like 5 or 6 creators I feel the same way about are all there already.
JODisHere oh boy
0 likesJoe Capo
0 likesWhat do you mean "if"?
0 likes"Scratch the if part"
0 likesTHEN EDIT IT OUT!
@noclip442 How can I be wrong? Want me to link the video? Also Metokur is criminally underappreciated for bringing laughs and knowledge to Youtube.
1 like@noclip442 Hard to tell, buddy, hard to tell
1 likeI see them as an important public service for the future generations.
4 likes"Grampa, tell us the story about how the internet was back in the old days."
Imagine singing Happy Birthday To You without getting sued
87 likesThis comment was made by Big Corporations gang
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hi snow, btw wobba wobba
0 likes12:30 gotta love when people say you make "uneducated points" and fail to point out what they are
24 likesMedia: I claimed this video because I hold 0.0000000000% of this videos content, but I want 100% of the revenue.
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And that money I get is literally a penny compared to what i have!
11 likesIt has no copyrighted music yet I will claim all of the revenue
0 likesI just love the chaotic energy flowing through everything you post on this website. I absolutely adore your editing-style and 'Lemon'-persona - it's so unique, raw and intimately real at times. Your political comments may not be the most theoretically funded, but I always come to respect them because they're well thought out and grounded in your experiences.
7 likesAnd the whole meta-commentary thing that you do these days just resonates so well with me. It fits so well into and captures that lifestyle-feeling some of us have today (whatever generation it is, though I think I'm roughly the same age as you) -the Spongebob-"Never Ever"-thing for example.
As a decade-long YTP-lurker (from Germany, remember Axel Voss and Art. 13?^^) and fan of transformative art in a lot of media (and as someone who is aware of how internet communication works) I share your concerns over copyright made to favor big companies and the way this is dealt with today.
So yeah, great three part-epic, and you just keep on doing what you do. Ehrenmann, as you would say in German.
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Interesting. Into tf art? I used to be the same.
0 likesThis site is just garbage. So many constraints on creators, you can’t even make fun of people for doing dumb things anymore
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Let's make yt but like reddit. Anything can be put there but u have the light side like yt and dark side the NSFW sides
54 likesMaciej Królikowski >Reddit
188 likesYah no
Who Cares no no man don’t shut him down this actually sounds like a really good idea
10 likesOnly Jimmy Kimmel can make fun of people for doing dumb things.
44 likesBut he's too busy talking about the president
@Who Cares whai do you grentext on de youtu
2 likesDESOTRON you do Know the shit show Reddit is.
34 likesSorry SiIvagunner!
1 likeUnless you're mocking a straight white Christian male. Fire away, without fear of reprisal from our YT overlords.
14 likesMaciej Królikowski dude reddit is already horrible it’s just a huge circlejerk and echo chamber I want the website to have REAL creative freedom
29 likesWhat if a new site is created?
1 likeDelivery Guy 👌🏿
0 likessup sum. we like fortnite. we like fortnite
1 likeMuch like COPPA, this is far bigger than just a YouTube problem.
5 likescopyright just like most "modern" laws are abstract and empty. They're not based in honor and honesty or protecting the people but the impersonal corporations.
5 likesI see u everywhere
0 likesYou can but it won't be monetized.
1 like@Fernando Ed nobody can afford to host and stream terabytes of data every day. Google loses money on YT for the sake of stock market value.
2 likes@Moss Hive Network videos have already been deleted.
0 likesI disagree. You just have bad taste. All my subscriptions are great, because I don't watch trash. You can argue that the normies watch the trash that does exist, but that's what they've always been doing, since the dawn of man. Finding good content has never been easy, now the bad stuff is just boring-bad instead of wtf-bad.
5 likesPsychicpebbles video on the fine bros was also removed
3 likes+Titanium Rain oh no.
0 likes@doc okkk
10 likes>Like Reddit
You mean where everyone acts like they're better than anyone else and think they're smarter than everyone only to hAve their pants pulled down by 4chan on a drunken whim
Yeah no
@Peter Carioscia Leafy is white and straight.
1 likeMaciej Królikowski basically back to the forum boards we go?
0 likes2020 sure is gonna be a interesting year that's for sure
0 likesYou can just say hate speech by saying that they are jealous or anything.
0 likesTime to go back...
0 likes@Stevee Johnson lmao yeah keep denying that this website has been on a constant decline for years
3 likesYouTube is the worst video-sharing platform, except for all the others.
2 likes@Titanium Rain I didn't say it was perfect, I said I know how to make it work for me
0 likes@doc okkk lol, you think reddit isn't a censored hell hole. the entirety of the internet is owned by the corporate masters, welcome to the new normal, enjoy.
8 likesDESOTRON nope, reddit is the worst.
4 likes@Stevee Johnson Your point is incomprehensible. You go from "if you're affected by the changes your taste is trash" to "I didn't say it was perfect". You're not making it work. You literally have no hand in the matter.
2 likes@Titanium Rain i think what he's saying is that you should make the most of it, while failing to realize that most people are too stupid to do so. sure, we can, but the grand audience cant or doesnt care enough to (which is perfectly reasonable because taste is subjective), which is why emp advocates for a new system to push actual good shit instead of the watchmojos of the world
0 likes@Titanium Rain I do in fact have a say in the matter of what I watch. I don't care what content youtube is encouraging, I will find good content. If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy. In your case probably both.
0 likesMaciej Królikowski how about don’t make it like Reddit or 4chan and just make YouTube how it was years ago. Freedom to joke how you want without blatantly harassing and witch hunting others?
3 likesSusan Wojcicki made Youtube garbage. She is responsible of this, and should be fired #YoutubeGate #FireSusanWojcicki #SaveYouTube #MakeYoutubeGreatAgain
1 likeDid you just criticize the platform? Due to new policies we're going to terminate your account as well as fine you $500 per inappropriate comment.
0 likesWe watch a lot of the Same channels
0 likesReddit is cancer
1 like@Stevee Johnson "If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy." - wait, I'm not sure you're on the same wavelength.
2 likesYoutube has deleted or forced people to private half the shit on my favorites and watch later playlists. Youtube classics are in danger of getting nuked under the new terms of service. There's videos that even though are not unlisted, are nearly impossible to find unless someone links you to them because they're buried in the search results.
How are people stupid or lazy for losing access to content that was previously available?
It is important to still have hope for the company, as we have indeed seen steps to fix the copyright claims in recent times. To me this means that they DO at least care a little about the problem and are likely to continue to try and fix it. I've noticed a trend in many companies beginning to respect content creators a lot more and listen to them instead of being rooted in the money. Sure, it still isn't too great now, but it is a whole lot better than it was a year ago. Id rather have hope for a website everyone uses [and still is a pretty good way to post content] then just complaining and wanting it to burn or get replaced when its pretty clear that just is not going to happen. Continue speaking out and you may actually be heard.
0 likes@doc okkk as much as I love Reddit as a concept it's just as flawed if not more so. Tyrannical mods, an even stronger echo chamber effect on many of it's users, the looming chinese overlords censoring the entire platform, Reddit is a step in the right direction but at its core it's not something we can hold onto if we want real creative liberty. It too will need to be replaced with something better.
1 likeCopy right is just clown zone
0 likesEverything non-Reddit can universally agree Reddit is terrible. Also, there's a Reddit alternative called Minds.
0 likes@Zorro9129 Not true: Everything, Reddit included, agrees that Reddit is terrible.
0 likes2 days later- I manually type in emp lemon just to check if new content has been created
0 likes@doc okkkI'd prefer if it were more like 4chan, then YouTube could be free and cool and doesn't afraid of anything.
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0 likes@doc okkk Reddit is normie central and becoming corporate as fuck, so no.
1 likeYou speak for Billions of account that #YouTubeSucks. I agree with 1100 percent.
0 likes@JOD SILENCE YOU XENO
0 likesIt's nothing to do with the site.
0 likes@homero gloton 24 a nadie le importa
0 likes@JOD dammit JOD!
0 likesI enjoy this, the fact that my favorite ytp channel became this, an absolute transformation from something good to something better
13 likesThank you for this video series, I feel like you're the only and first guy around that made all the right points about this issue.
19 likesAs someone who always wanted to become a Youtuber but became more and more reluctant each time I tried to start,
because I already encountered copyright problems on the first video I uploaded, you gave me some kind of hope.
Only to crush it later on again, because you shed light on all the shitty systems that are in place. Ironic, isn't it?
Anyway, well put together video as always.
May the Downward Spiral guide you.
4:34 When the Knife Game was super popular, I never would have guessed that Rusty Cage was the guy who wrote it.
53 likesOne of the only youtubers that entices me to watch the entire video without really getting bored.
4 likesImagine humming the melody to Billy Joel's piano man in a bar, and an undercover policeman comes up to you and says "Stop! You violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence, your stolen music is now forfeit"
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I used to be billy joel until i took an arrow to the knee
50 likesYou can then call them a thief for stealing a quote from skyrim
36 likes@CraX its from oblivion
19 likesDeer War Veteran it’s still stealing technically
2 likesDeer War Veteran I can never remember which one is which lmao, I just take the boomer approach and call em all skyrim and likely piss off the entire internet while doing so
12 likes@CraX Stop! you have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?
20 likes@CraX lol calm down man. Its obvious thats what he was quoting. Its called a meme not stealing. Looks like someone is missing the point of the video
0 likesthe internet historian is a copyright criminal i don’t fuck with that
0 likesCraX based
0 likes@Matt Petty seems like you need to calm down there bud..
1 likeLmao
0 likes"There will come a time when copyright law is made to benefit the artists."
196 likesNo, EmpLemon. There won't. Disney has already won. They held this ground long enough that zoomers are growing up with it. They never did pirate, at least not in any way they were aware of, because they've always had legal ways to consume at a reasonable price, and little access to places and tools with which to repurpose that media, since it was illegal to do so anyway. When the Boomers finally die, the country will belong to people who think this is normal and correct.
Youtube itself is becoming exactly what it always wanted to be: the media conglomerate outlet, a replacement for cable TV. People who created things, who created Youtube itself, will be choked off of the platform, and nothing will meaningfully replace it because of how big it is. Real art will probably be strictly local within a decade, because the plebeians can't be allowed broader reach than that. By then, nobody will even remember that Youtube HAD real creators on it.
Good luck and goodnight, king.
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Then just abolish Capitalism.
17 likes@MMFan2004 This is not capitalism. This is oligarchy and cronyism. Capitalism is just the ownership of means of production in the hands of private individuals.
67 likesI like my blue duck
2 likes@MMFan2004 you'll get exactly the same thing under communism. unless you get rid of the yids that keep the oligarchy running for good, then you're doomed to an eternity of serfdom under ruthless merchants who were never meant to adopt the mantle of ruler of the people.
39 likesThis is false.
0 likes@Ike Okereke How?
0 likes@Kriplovski I mean, no one is meant to adopt the rule of the people. It's just that the people who do, happen to be stronger. The monarchy was weak, so it fell. Simple as that. Because power mongering never changes.
3 likes@Moth Wan Because we will not let Emplemon fall. And we will educate the zoomers. They like free stuff as much as the next guy, trust me.....
2 likes@Tom Hill Such idealistic tendencies, with the current state of the world I don't see it happening. But you're welcome to keep your idealism.
10 likes@Pritam Sarkar that is exactly the problem, private companies are owning all the means of production so they can make an oligopoly (if not a monopoly) by making copyright practicly last for ever.
5 likes@Fco Omega They are not private companies, they are PUBLIC companies whose shares are held by stockholders.... That is why when companies sell shares for the first time, it is called IPO(Initial Public Offering). Google, Amazon, Tesla are all public corporations. Private companies don't trade shares in public stocks, for instance SpaceX. I have a minor in entrepreneurship and finance. Don't BS with me.
3 likes@Pritam Sarkar even if your definition is true, those companies are still privatizing almost anything they can so its more dificult to make any kind of new competition, why do you think disney is buying every studio in every oportunity it has? why do you think facebook brought instagram instead of developing facebook to make healthy competition?
6 likesI think we need a content revolution. They cant copystrike all of YouTube.
8 likes@Maverick56 We should've donated more tanks to Bob's army.
9 likes@Pritam Sarkar [Laughs in Individualist Anarchism]
1 like@Moth Wan People liking free stuff is idealistic? Seems more mercenary to me.
2 likesGlowstick Foxcat's Gaming Channel haha funny random man
0 likesLet Disney and the megacorporations rest on their laurels.
2 likesThat's when they'll be at their weakest and most vulnerable.
@Tom Hill the monarchy didn't fall because it was weak, it fell because, for a multitude of contextual reasons, its time had come for the period that it was active in, as is the case with every single governing body in existence. the thing that made the monarchy so special was how long it lasted, which can be attributed to multiple factors, of course, though my favourite is the fact that in a monarchy, as in a theocracy, the only thing that is ever seen as truly eternal is the heavens, and the works of men are regarded as entities which come and go with the passing of the ages, governing bodies included.
11 likesthe takeaway here is that communists like to claim that the state they seek to build is eternal, which if you take the fact that nothing man creates is eternal into consideration, proves itself to be an outright lie, to that end, why would you or anyone else ever trust what a communist has to say about how their society will function?
@Kriplovski I haven't heard them say anything about building something eternal. They mostly just say Fuck the DNC. Which is a sentiment I can get behind. Hey, where are you making shit up?
1 like@Pritam Sarkar There isn't a difference. Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. We should criticize its negative elements, instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"
3 likes@LordVader1094 'Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. '
5 likesIt is also something that isn't outside of communism. Look at North Korea. Capitalism is just owning the means of production by private hands. No country is purely capitalistic. As is the US. Mixed Economy, instead of the pure Market economy, or pure command economy is followed in most western countries.
@LordVader1094 'instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"'
4 likesNobody is pretending anything. You are not educated enough to understand financial systems and instead depend on labels and superficial attributes. Again, Western economies are mixed economies, neither purely market or command economy. Capitalism is just ownership of means of production by private citizens.
@Fco Omega 'those companies are still privatizing almost anything they'
1 like'Privatizing'? What does that even mean? Elaborate your context.
@Moth Wan It is all about scale. One can be socialist in family-scale, a democrat on state scale, and a republican of national scale. Scaling rules depend on dimensions and size. Do you think microscopic world and macroscopic world are the same?
2 likes@Kriplovski Communism in its truest form aims to create a classless-stateless society. It is a utopia, the ultimate form of human civilization. And according to their hypothesis, Socialism is the path to achieve it. Socialism is not true communism, but a path to end goal. Unfortunately, socialism forces to have a top-down centralized system for resource and power allocation. Question is who decides and how they decide, who are have's and who are have not's?
0 likes@Pritam Sarkar means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc. so they can make money for just owning stuff instead of making their products and services better.
0 likesthis is why, for example, disney buy marvel, fox, lucas films, etc. because they can make an oligopoly for just owning star wars, avengers, the simpsons, etc. and if anyone wants to put it them in (just for example) an stream service, they have to do it with the permition of disney. what is so hard to undertand?
also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad" but you arent making any solutions to capitalism's problems, like dude, not everyone that hate capitalism is a communist or even a socialist, for example i am social democrat. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"
@Fco Omega '. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"'
4 likesAgain, I have already explained my why thinking in labels is dangerous, short-sighted and ignorant. Try think from fundamental and principal laws from the next time.
@Fco Omega 'also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad"'
2 likesTop-Down systems? Too much centralization? The Problem of economic knowledge? Are you even reading my comments? This critique of communism also holds for Fascism(Which is sort of economic off-brand communism), Dictatorships and Political religions like Islam and Catholics.
@Fco Omega 'means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc.'
1 likeAnd many of those companies are public companies, whose shares are traded in the open market. First, try to understand what Public vs Private means? Anti-Trust Laws exist in the USA for this very reason.
@Pritam Sarkar it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addresing the issues of capitalism, you are escencially moving the conversation to other topic so we dont talk about why capitalism fails.
2 likesjust because those companies are "public" doesnt mean anything, they are just operating with only making profits in mind, putting things like work condition, quality of services/products, healthy competition, etc. completly aside.
also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright (witch it supposed to be an antitrust law) so it only benefit big companies, and you believe that doesnt happen with other antitrust laws? all antitrust laws are corrupted in any way posible, just look at the case of "epic store vs steam" or how amazon become the bigger digital store by just buying their competition. you are just trying to defend the status quo with no real arguments at all, i mean, you arent even giving any solutions to the copyright problem.
@Fco Omega 'it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addressing the issues of capitalism,'
1 likeDefine capitalism first! What do you mean? Free Market System? Or are you against the idea of having the means of production in the hands of private individuals?? Stop trying to copy-paste bullshit Labels, which you don't seem to understand in the first place.
@Fco Omega 'they are just operating with only making profits in mind,'
3 likesSo, if an industry is profitable, you expect more players coming for that profit, increasing supply, decreasing prices. Markets move towards equilibrium. However, if it is imposed monopoly/oligarchy/State Restrictions, Free market system cannot do this!
@Fco Omega 'also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright'
3 likesHe also called it antiquated. He says a subscription model(Yearly Basis) or Content actual time basis would solve such issues. Maybe companies that will implement EmpLemon's idea first will have more customers, hence more profit, forcing others to do the same. Hail Profits!
@Fco Omega I am more interested in Skin in the game and hidden asymmetries in life and games(Game Theory). Learn Chaos Theory and Game theory.....You will understand what plagues systems inefficiencies and asymmetries and possible ways to remediate said problems. ('Capitalism', Communism, Fascism, etc....)
2 likes@Fco Omega 'witch it always ends with companies fighting for who own the more stuff, creating a monopoly. '
2 likesReally? Seen the market lately? AMD vs Intel?? Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war.
@Fco Omega ', i mean, you are ignoring how disney, google, amazon and facebook are buying all the companies they can so no one can make any kind of real competition in their respective markets.'
2 likesIn North America and Europe? Yes? What about Baidu, Naver, LineApps? Also, companies like DuckDuckGo are providing competitive services at a profit while protecting privacy. Alternatively media companies are growing(Like Gab, Minds, etc)
@Fco Omega 'AND AGAIN, you are not giving any kind of options or solutions to the problems, suscription models dont work,'
2 likesNot me, I as quoting EmpLemon, did you even watch the video properly?
@Fco Omega 'we are using your definition of capitalism, "privatizations of means of productions'
2 likesNope, Humans always liked to own private goods from the time of the stone age.(In this context private meant families, not individuals) WTF?? Are you even human??
Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.
2 likes@Tzer 'Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.'
3 likesWho will then courrpted by power! Power Courrpts! Absolute power courrupts everyone!
@Fco Omega The problem is that there truly is no solution. The balance between the economic spectrum is impossible to achieve because we as a society are simply that complex in our beliefs and behaviours. If everyone operates perfectly under a perfect system, it will work in either case. Such is the concept of utopia, be it of any ideology.
3 likesHowever, reality is chaotic and chaos is a fundamental aspect of it. Chaos is a very nessicary evil to prevent the achievement of mechanized utopia at the hands of artificial processes. We are human and will always conflict over systems that are flawed, in that they are only treated as such due to the deviant human thought that makes us all so unique.
Humanity, as of the current period, has taken the path of capitalism due to it fulfilling the many individualist factors we wish to satiate. It benefits our diverse nature and gives us a means of freedom. However, it is not perfect due to our biological differences in mental function and opinion.
This is a truth that many people, for some reason, be it because of it's dark implications, cannot accept or see. You can "improve it" in the way we as society see it to further us along the road of the mechanized singularity, or you can reveal and tear it down in the name of chaos, freedom and humanity. Thus, a different system will take the norm and we will once again strive to perfect it until we reach singularity or collapse. This is why history is a cycle and why we see the rise and fall of empires.
Call me crazy, call me stupid, call me pessimistic. I do not care. However, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that every aspect of our beings follows this path on a fundamental level.
Tl;dr Be happy with what you have, and even try to improve it, but know that there are limits to how much something can be improved.
@Pritam Sarkar quick question... you just went amd vs intel... are there any other chip producers that are THAT huge? let alone being known by the public that well? not picking a side here, but pick a few better examples.
1 likealso, you went "Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war." is Russia still doing a lot of space related stuff? and is the budget of NASA as high as during that race? or amount of public fanfare about the innovations of NASA? let me answer that, no. for every dollar of of tax you give the government NASA gets HALF a PENNY, while before they were throwing ALL their money at NASA to make them look good. and i bet you probably didn't know there's a satellite floating around checking moisture around the planet to figure out if the crops are gonna grow well or not, or that that tech is given to poor country's to feed themselves better. the ONLY real competition NASA really has is the Tesla space program, which is well funded and can do their jobs, and even then there is to little work done!
simply put, competition will eventually die out. unless someone does something to spark tons of attention.
and also, i forgot to mention somthin. do me a favor and next time you start shopping for food, look around and search for independent shops selling somthing, and look at how many customers there are. then look for a big name brand shop like target or your country's version of it (mines the "plus" or "albert hein") chances are you cant really find a independent shop, and even the one thats around is pretty small and doesnt have a lot of people in it. now look for a photo of wherever you shopped.... lets saayyy.... 15 or 20 years ago. and take a good look. you might have notised that there are TONS of those independent shops working their ass off to stick out from the crowd.
@Martyr_Lightsilver the whole point is that those independent, small shops were running themselves out of business so they could earn more money. if they became big enough they could afford a new location, running the shops there out of business as you have more money to spend on your new location. that allowed them to make money. this kept happening. the other shops ran out of buissness, so in turn there is less competition! unless somthing drastic happens this'll keep happening.
1 likeAhem, 007bistromath, I have come to make an announcement.
0 likesI am a zoomer and have shown this to every other zoomer I know. There's also hope.
we need Communism
0 likesIf the same thing happens then just keep starting anew till it doesn't lol
0 likesExcessive centralised control never works, not even whrn you have generations growing up in it.
0 likes@I need no channel youtube! that depends entirely on how many people you expect it to work for
0 likes@007bistromath It simply doesnt though.
0 likesIt matters not one bit what it is you are trying to supress, the mere fact of you doing it will only proliferate it faster.
Certainly social manipulation has grown nuanced in this age of information, but you can keep these things in check only for so long, before some unexprcted constellation of factors and an inciting incident lead to an exponential collapse of the carefully constructed system. Not once in history has it been different, and I see no reason why it would be now.
I agree with everything here except boomers being the cause. Of course boomers where the worst in this aspect but rather it’s the corporate cronyism of the establishment that abuse copyright.
1 likeI love to see a youtuber evolve from shitposting to making actually thought-provoking, well-produced, well-researched quality content
4 likesIt's so impressive how inept YouTube management is that it just crosses the line into completely and utterly depressing.
3 likesYou’ve got to give Emp some props for putting on a joker voice and even dressing up as the joker.
3 likesI never thought Emp's face reveal would be with a Joker cosplay
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his face reveal was on wheel of punishment a while ago
143 likesGaming Lakitu He revealed his face in his Ackbar YTP series Part 3 at the end of the video, saying that nobody’s gonna watch that video. For the most part, he’s right. No one knows
171 likesGaming Lakitu ikr
1 likeWasn't his face also in a Mumkey Jones video?
1 like@ِ yeah, his "inside the mind of jake paul" parody.
1 likeThere are at least two old videos of his that are from 3 years ago, or so.
0 likeshe did it long ago
0 likesIt fits the theme of the channel rly xD
3 likesI’ve never seen his face. Wow.
0 likes@Arbil Arms Ltd. President half latino half asian
3 likesI never thought he'd scream the N word at an elderly woman!
0 likesLook what SOCIETY did to him!
0 likesIf copyright law is to actually be enforced I think we're all getting executed
4 likes5:15
11 likes"It should work like the patent system protecting the small guys from big corporations."
HAH! Emp, read up on software patent wars. The patent system is completely broken for anything that is even slightly abstract.
Imagine being the one of the most educational channels on youtube.
3 likesEmpLemon doesn’t have to imagine it.
EmpLemon has become the new watchdog of online bullshit. Copyright, exploitation, and more corporate bullshit overtaking our platform. Hats off to you my man, from one YouTuber to another.
2 likesEmp. I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who DESPISES copyright law. I started my personal crusade against the practice 10 years ago when I found out the Harley Davidson exhaust sound was copyrighted. So you're telling me that I need permission to play the sound an engine makes? It's a fucking sound that an engine just so happens to make. You've got to be shitting me.
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Bladed Angel made a video of vette c8
8 likesGot claimed by Ferrari, dunno if it's legit.
Maybe big brain time? Claim toyota 2JZ engine sound and enjoy!
Breathing Is Copyrighted Content
12 likesExisting is copyrighted.
20 likesthe streamer vinesauce got copyright claimed for using cricket noises once
26 likesbecause now you can just OWN the sounds an animal makes
that's like copyrighting the sound of an instrument
2 likes@Reeseroni The Macaroni Imagine if cancer was copyrighted.
2 likes@ポスターピクセル that's literally how America works wym
0 likes@cacomeat no.
0 likesJust wanna say I love EmpLemon's taste in music. Every time I watch one of his vids I'm treated to something. Love that he included "Thick as a Brick" even when it's a watered down version to avoid a copyright claim.
1 like>spotify
405 likes>every song ever made
oh boy
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i hate that i get you
34 likescouldn't have said it better myself
10 likes;_; and they laugh ta mewhen i download me songs onme computha'
22 likeswhy ol' da hate' to us the bootleggrs, mateys?
>greentexting on youtube
27 likes@phlog_dog
29 likes>not using greentext on youtube
DMCA claimed for taking from quantum leap.
1 like>mfw dmca strike from spotify in background of twitch stream
5 likes>mfw felony charge
>Go on Spotify.
5 likes>No Tenacious D/Evangelion mashups
>why live
>go on Spotify
5 likes>tfw there's none of the millions of sung tales and unwritten Celtic chants
Thank you for speaking up about this. WMG and UMG are like the greediest music company ever. They already have tons of money from Spotify plays and album sells yet have the audacity to claim so many YouTube videos because it contains like 20 seconds of their music playing in the background. I really hope someone competent that experienced YouTube's broken copyright system replaced Susan one day. Susan is a goddamn puppet.
3 likesmad props for Thick as a Brick, last I heard Ian's been in poor health lately, Jethro Tull is incredible and it's a delight to hear
2 likesCopyright law: Am I a joke to you?
788 likesEmpLemon: Most likely
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Well yes, but actually yes.
27 likesYou can probably change EmpLemon to the overwhelming majority of the 99%.
20 likessup Mustache. We like fortnite! We like fortnite!
0 likesJust Some Guy without a Mustache it’s you again
2 likesOh hey Mustachio, what happened to your mustache? Also your monocle is gone too.
0 likes@Tom Hill there is 3 versions of this guy and no one knows are they the same person.
2 likes"At first, I thought prohibition was a good thing. People were drinking more and having a lot more fun. But without beer, prohibition doesn't work."
6 likes— Homer Simpson, 1997
(from episode S8-E18, 4F15)
So how can we reform the law?
19 likesNo seriously, you got me really wanting to reform these stupid laws.
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You can't, as long as lobbying is legal you won't be able to. Well, that or major reformations after some kind of societal collapse.
2 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark That's a rather dark outlook on it. I think better general awareness of the issue is a better place to start when looking for change. Disney even said themselves that they backed off from further increasing copyright periods when they realized they'd get substantial public backlash: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/
5 likes@JollyJuice well i think they should be satisfied with the 3000 years they get
1 likeTake out all of congress above the age of 40
2 likesYour love for this platform is evident. Your passion is infectious. Keep on keeping on.
3 likesWas expecting him to pull out the letter "N" from his Ridge wallet...
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i never say hard R b-word. i only say bigga
1 like@Marioisawesome82 hello bigger
3 likes@Harlemfries digger is our word, but you can say excavator
7 likesI thought it was gunna be a middle finger.
0 likesThis channel easily deserves 10, 20 million subscribers. I have no idea why it only has 800k.
3 likesIt's been a hot minute since this video was uploaded, but I wanted to say thanks for this series Emp. Honestly I feel like issues with copyright nowadays are just a problem that'll go under everyone's noses until suddenly, one day, something bad happens (like it keeps happening every few years or so. These videos were so great on this subject I'm even writing a basic research paper on copyright law for a class of mine.
2 likesEPIC! There will come a time when as soon as you are born you're owned by a company an every time someone says your name they will get mugged by a team of laywers passing by.
2 likesWhat an underrated series. That "1893/crab rave" montage is glorious.
2 likesI never knew how bad it actually was until I wanted to make a fan edit of a music video and post it.
3 likesNow I have to share the edit around in private
I can really understand your pain now.
Amp, at some time in the future, if you ever choose to return to this topic, could you talk about the difficulty/impossibility that exists within getting in contact with these conglomerate companies to ask permission to use their assets?
6 likesEmplemon, you are one of the most unique and amazing content creators on youtube. Everytime you upload a video these days, I think "Oof, another 30-or-so minute rant, do I really want to watch that?" But then I remember what all the other ones were like, and I do watch it, and every single one is educational, to the point, enriching, and still entertaining. Never stop what you're doing.
1 likeNobody:
9 likesDad: sings happy birthday to his kids
The FBI: May we introduce ourselves
“The copyright system is a game where the innocent lose and the guilty get to fill their wallets” -probably George Washington
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hi sh1. We Like Fortnite!!! We Like Fortnite!!!!
0 likespublished in 1893
21 likes@JOD gets copyrighted for gameplay ;-;
4 likesas benjamin franklin once said 'your free trial at benjaminfranklinquotes.com has expired'
20 likes@Harrison Haine is that a quote from Bojack Horseman or something? It sounds very familiar. Just curious.
4 likes@ShrekNSkrub Gaming yeah Mr peanut butter says it to todd, it's such a funny line
0 likes@Harrison Haine honestly, I hated Mr. Peanutbutter when I started watching the show but he really grew on me. He seemed really static and bland in the beginning, but man did that really change. I love all the dumb shit that him and Todd do and I love how fleshed-out all the characters came to be as the series went on. I could talk for hours about how much I enjoy it but I'm not trying to go on a huge tangent in an unrelated comment thread lol. January 31st cannot come soon enough.
1 like@ShrekNSkrub Gaming yeah it's my favourite show of all time, I can't wait either. see you then ;)
0 likesthere was no copyright laws until 1917.
1 likeI swore Benjamin Franklin said that
0 likesMan I just love living in a corporatocracy.. its almost like the majority of the world's problems can be distilled down to the practice of allowing corporations to buy political policies.
1 likeGlad I finally made my way back to your channel. I was a complete YTP sperg in grade school but began to lose interest year or so before you really started to hit it big. When I saw you were changing your channel focus I was pretty disappointed, thinking you were the only decent YTPer still going (other than cs), and as a result I didn’t give your content a chance. I really enjoy it though. Glad you’re continuing to find a place on this site.
2 likesEven after a couple of years your content is still pretty good. THIS IS SHIT I CRAVE EMP, this is why I became a patreony
1 likeI love to hear you complain, especially when it gets meta
2 likes"Are you getting any copyright claims?"
1507 likes"All I get are copyright claims."
best use of that I've seen so far
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hi auto. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
2 likes@JOD Stop doing live streams where you go to random videos from popular channels and comment some random shit, its getting old, annoying and uncreative, try making something actually productive that will make your channel better.
53 likes@SafeEggs He's not gonna reply or (most likely) not even gonna bother reading that you know. It's better to just report him for spam anyway
20 likes@BowlDawg yeah, guess so
0 likesSafeEggs I believe commenting for 10-12 hours is creative. I find it fun because I can talk to chat and list to music. I am sorry you feel that way thooo. I respect your opinion homie
0 likes@JOD "I am sorry you feel that way"
21 likesshut up, checkmark
Why doesn't YouTube STOP paying EVERYBODY when a copyright strike is made. Especially, before it's proven as FACT? They simply add an escrow type place & place the earnings on hold. Until after the strike is resolved? Thus stopping people, companies, bots from abusing the current broken system. Win for ALL. It should have been like this from the very start. *Hugz from this Canadian gal 🤗🌻
4 likesJODisHere I’ll Stick to dead rising.
0 likesThe crabs are dancing on the public domain’s grave.
0 likesA crazy thing I've found out about copyrighted music recently is that songs recorded at the turn of the century (over 100 years ago) on wax cylinders are currently copyrighted. Which I'm pretty sure should go against modern copyright law
1 like“Geriatric turbo boomers” thats a keeper
68 likesI love this channel. I love your editing. You are a true hero to those of us who still quietly disobey.
1 likeMedia companies: Now, our operation is small, and there is a lot of room for aggressive expansion, so witch one of you creators want to give us your money.
8 likesRIDGE WALLET has joined the downward spiral. Visit https://www.ridge.com/EMPLEMON and use code "emplemon" for 10% off your order!
55 likesAlso, comment below if you're an artist and copyright regulation has harmed you more than it's helped.
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Back on the downward spiral, huh Emp?
0 likesNo thanks
0 likesNice one!
0 likesThrow your wallet down the spiral
2 likes@UCTtenOTn9SFTrXGMBjiV46Q hey I know you from another channel
0 likesEmpLemon best fucking ad ever
4 likesE🅱 ic
0 likesI den on the downward spiral with you emp
0 likesThanks for having sponsors I don’t despise
0 likes@MKL I don't think so
0 likesI want to support you but I am not spending 70 God damn us dollars on a metal wallet. However I will support you on patreon.
0 likesI have successfully joined the downward spiral
0 likesThanks for putting in all the effort Emp. This was a very informative series.
0 likesI wonder how much money these big companies are LOSING by wasting their time going after small creators? A sizeable number of claims are manually submitted over remixes and samples on videos that aren't making a lot of money anyway.
2 likesThat's a great idea to help curb the abuse of the copyright system.
1 likeCan't wait to copyright it and claim this video's revenue.
17:40
2 likesThe flaw with the 2nd improvement on the current system is that it can be easily bypassed by extending the video. Say, I want to upload an entire song that I do not own the rights to. Lets say its 3 minutes long, which is the typical length of a pop song. If the video were 3 minutes long and it got claimed, I'd lose 100% of the revenue. Fair enough.
But, if I upload that 3 minute song, and then have like 150 minutes (2.5 hours) of silence with a black screen, then I'd only lose 2% of the revenue. This is an easily exploitable weakness. The solution to this is to have advanced detection, context analysis and other bits of technical stuff. Basically, just a lot of clauses to that "The revenue taken from the video is proportional to the amount of time that it makes up the video" and other stuff.
An alternative to this is to have the amount of revenue that the claimant receives be proportional to how much of the clip was used, relative to its length. If I used 1 minute of that 3 minute song, they'd claim a third of the revenue. If I used all 3 minutes, they'd claim 100%, even if it is followed by 2 hours of silence and a black screen.
For multiple infringements in one video, each claimant would receive a slice of the revenue proportional to how much of their thing was used. If I used four 3 minute long songs in a video, they'd each claim 100% of the revenue. But of course, that wouldn't work. To solve this, you'd divide it evenly amongst them. Each claimant would therefore receive 25% of the revenue.
"Off camera EmpLemon is like a pokemon, all he can say 'Downward spiral' that's all he can say."
660 likes-Mumkey Jones probably
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hi miner. we like fortntieeee! we like fortntieeee!
7 likesWhatever happened to him?
0 likesSanctioned Stupidity YouTube shut down his channel and banned him
1 likeSpiritomb is a spiral thing, made of imprisoned souls stuck to a rock, with purple and green on it.
8 likesSpiritomb is the downward spiral in Pokémon form.
Mumkey Jones? That's a strange way to pronounce Simian Jimmy.
16 likesHey I saw that!
0 likesSanctioned Stupidity Youtube deleted his channel, best friend went to prison, feel into a deep depression, and cheated on his girlfriend. He’s doing better now though.
1 like@Cheesefinnegan He has a new channel called simian jimmy or something
0 likesIngrish pwease?
0 likes@TheBrokenUpEndEx 's LastName There's a sex tape of the couple, and multiple testimonies from Sheep
0 likes"WHERE DO YOU BELIEVE IN?!!!!"
7 likesEmp: "I believe that everything that doesn't copyright strikes you makes you..... stranger...."
I’m always impressed by the amount of effort you put into your videos Emp, nice job on this series
0 likesJesus christ, this was an incredible series. Well researched, engaging & interesting, and you didn't just spend the whole time just bashing YouTube. I actually walked away from this feeling sorry for them; they're stuck bang in the middle of outdated laws drafted specifically to print money for boomers, and the state-of-the-art cultural medium. They're not blameless in all of this, but I do sympathise much more with what they have to deal with, and those tweets and the recent policy changes makes it seem like they're trying.
2 likesIt always seemed strange to me how the music industry could be so lucrative, but I and most people I know barely spend any money on music these days. Even Spotify lost over a billion dollars in 2017. These shady, backwater laws are exactly how the music industry is making that money, and pedalling the narrative of "it's to protect the artist" is exactly how they escape public scrutiny. It all makes sense now who the real goons are in this mess we've ended up in, and who would've guessed it was the biggest corporations of all.
Thank you for this series. You've done a great service documenting and presenting all of this.
Best, funniest, & most informative video I’ve seen this month. Keep it up Emp, we’re on the brink of revolution. Society won’t stand for Google’s tyranny much longer.
0 likesYou know it's messed up when even your own country's national anthem is copyrighted.
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hi Matas. we like fortnite! we like fortnite!
0 likes@Charaleet Yeah, umm... the only problem here is that I'm 99% sure the claimant is not acting on behalf of the country or its actual representatives, but in his own greedy interest
51 likes@Charaleet That's not what either of those mean though.
3 likesYeah so my country's anthem is called "Tautiska giesme" and it was written in 1898 and it gets claimed by some company that I've never heard of and neither existed back in the day, nor wrote, nor published the anthem!
19 likesThe Soviet National Anthem is apparently owned by a French company.
17 likesThe French Commune lives on... as anarcho-capitalists.
@WALN Zell That's exactly how I'd describe youtube's form of government myself - Anarcho-capitalism.
0 likesI like the idea of copyright abolition, if I spend 10 years proving a theorem in topology it would be criminal to charge for access to this theorem (academic journals cough cough), in a similar way I think that artists shouldn't monetize their art. We should just make art without trying to extract labor from others.
1 likePlz keep content like this going, you and very few others seem to understand how this thing works
2 likesEmplemon: makes an hour long documentary about the cold war
11 likesAlso Emplemon: 2:48
I just found out, that If you make a meme and put it under the comedy category, Youtube will let you use copyrighted music. the only drawback being the amount of people who will find it.
3 likesThis video is amazing and came out surprisingly fast compared to the wait for Part 2. Good job.
1 likeThis whole series on the YouTube Copyright Metagame should be pushed to the front of the video pages of YouTube, Reddit, and other popular social media so that more people will be aware of this issue and possibly a movement will begin to counter it.
1 likeI’m anxiously watchin’ this with my mother, who used to work in copyright law(and now works in telecommunications) and has said that she disproves of me writing fanfics if I publish them(as in post them online), sitting right next to me.
1 likeLike they always say: Money is one the Three Reasons of Evil.
2 likesemp you genuinely have one of the best channels on youtube please never ever stop
0 likesCopyright law is, indeed, a comedy. It just so happens that the joke(s) therein are sick ones with no setup nor punchline.
1 likeI'm terrified. I'm terrified because civilization rests on the shoulders of its ancestors, but what do you do when the elderly wise men who are supposed to guide you and lead you are all out to rob you, fuck your wife and mom and ruin your country in the pursuit of sex, drugs and rock & roll? What do you do when the elderly who are supposed to keep the following generations going are precisely the ones getting in the way? It shakes me deeply. How did we let this happen?
3 likesThe script for this video is so well-written, I love it🔥💯
0 likesHope they use this video as evidence when the time comes
2 likesYou know the heads at YouTube have already considered this and have chosen to continue on the current path anyway. We all know that the copyright system on YouTube could easily have fixed been by now but they continue to ignore the people that made the platform what it is in exchange for big corporations $$$.
1 likeThis is a dude who not only knows what's wrong but also how to fix it. You've got my vote!
1 likeThe even worse thing about "Happy birthday" is the tune was composed and published even earlier, and the rights didn't even belong to Warner and yet they still sued people despite not having the rights! "Happy Birthday" had been in the public domain for over a year before this video, but they continue to sue!
1 likeI got my YTP taken down despite me giving a disclaimer and credits to original owners and got a copyright strike
170 likesYoutube: THATS HOW THE LAW WORKS
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hola doggo. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnitee!
1 likeTo be fair, that's the excuse a lot of actual copyright violators use, but YouTube Poops should be considered fair use.
15 likesExcellent series, thanks for all the work you’ve done
0 likesOne thing that i hate the most of copyrights is the fact that a company can purchase the rights to something, completely drop it and not give the rights back to the owner, even though they are not using it.
3 likesA good example is the show making fiends, an old nickelodeon cartoon about an evil girl who can make monsters and has complete control over a town, but is constantly annoyed by another, more cheery and happy-go-lucky girl that just wants to be friends.
The show only had one season, and like what nick does to shows that don’t meet their absurd standards, canned the show, left it in it’s sister channel and never touched it since.
Only thing is, the company still technically owns the copyright, so if the original show creator were to try to do anything with it, she’ll be fined over her own show.
FiNeD oVeR HeR oWn ShOw!
The whole thing pisses me off, and if the stars align and we actually get copyright laws changed, we should hope that there is a paragraph added where if the copyright owner does not use said copyright after a certain amount of time, the copyright will be nulified and will either be returned to the original creator, os simply left as free to use.
As an upcoming animator, it scares the hell out of me to think that if i were to sell my copyright to someone, they could just can everything i did and plan to do, leave it all to die, and not even let me pick up the pieces to try and start again.
I’d want to keep my time in trying to work on my show’s story and quality, not to trying to fight to get my right to use my own work that isn’t even being used back.
Now that it is possible to go to jail because of a DMCA strike on the US, this video holds true even more and more.
1 likeyour "thats good" mindset for someone else using one of your original creations in their video is really admirable.
1 likeAs much as I love watching your content, this stuff is depressing man. And I LOVE IT! don't get me wrong. I guess it's just another thing to wait for boomers to die out in politics over.
1 likeImagine the world with properly created copyright law and actual public domain.... IMAGINE IT AND HOW GOOD IT WOULD BE
2 likes18:00 - You've made the rookie mistake of assuming that laws have anything to do with justice and fairness.
5 likesWould lobbying Congress to change the law (even if that is unlikely) be fair or just hypocritical? Or simply beating the media companies at their own game?
1 likeI think it’s acceptable in this case.
Me: spends hours on an original piece of artwork that happens to have an anime character in it
3 likesMe: puts design on a tshirt website to try to make money off of my artwork
Website: This piece of artwork has been claimed by [x]
Me: are you kidding me?
Honestly Emp I could see you being a pretty decent lawyer.
0 likesis it just me, or does your channel now officially have lore to it?
1 likeI loved your content, before during and will always do so after the downward spiral <3
0 likesdon't use patents as an example in "current year" they are also corrupted now beyond reason
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hi Thorne. We Like Fortnite!! We Like Fortnite!
6 likesJoerg Sprave's video is an eye opener.
11 likesBig pharma confirms, got diabetes? Too bad insulin costs $500 a pop.
47 likes@deidara _ YEP had to pay $125 today for my insulin pens!!!
13 likesSee : Patent Trolls. A stick is a patent.
11 likesEven the buttons on remote controls are patented, that's why no two remotes are alike. They can't standardize anything without paying a patent holder.
6 likes@deidara _ but they are in it to 'help' people its not a bout money. kind of like how hospitals and any medical care can nickel and dime you to death cause they can hide how much it will really cost you until you get your bill...hey we wouldn't want transparency on that do we now cause reasons.
0 likesReally liked the series, but after wandering through YouTube recently, I wondered how cool it'd be if we got another Ascended soon just like in the beginning of 2018... but then again, seeing the thing is this series made me realize, that it's a pain the ass way more than it seems.
1 likeAlso, I don't wanna sound like those entitled assholes, who demanded Frying Dory two years ago... um, you know what, nevermind.
in other words, copyright law is the product of this ''rich gets richer'' system that'll sadly never go away
1 like"Entrance of the Gladiators" op. 68 or "Entry of the Gladiators" (Czech: Vjezd gladiátorů) is a military march composed in 1897 by the Czech composer Julius Fučík.
2 likes>1897
>124 years ago
>Still copyrighted
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Actually, one thing is the copyright of the composition, the sheet music, another thing is the composition of the recording, hiring an orchestra to play the music, many recordings of classic public domain music are copyrighted and tricked people who used them.
0 likesI actually didn't know about this stuff. Thank you for teaching me about things that I didn't know and things that are probably still going to be valid when I grow up and start messing around with a video editor
0 likesContent is a myth.
580 likesCopyright Law is a joke.
We are all pawns, controlled by something greater: Ads.
The DNA of the corporation.
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hi guddy. we like fortniteee! we like fortniteeeee!
3 likes@Sooly Actually yes, all ads are full of shit.
9 likes@guddy South Park was on to something...
1 likeThe reason why we need communism.
0 likesThe death of the YouTuber nation
0 likesWow. How edgy.
3 likes-Hey look a kitty off to the side!
Is that a Metal Gear reference?!
4 likesads, they shape our content, they are the trending, they are the reason we create. expose someone to demonitization long enough, they learn to strike back. they become a memer. edgy, roasts, hilarious. all ads, all passed along.
2 likesYOUR STRIKES. END HERE.
except..i passed one..to you..
A Hideo Kojima comment.
1 likeMemes: the DNA of the soul.
0 likesNow there’s a pretty meme! Exquisite!
0 likesRULES OF NATU- copyright.
0 likesEmp I've been watching you for so many years now, please dont EVER change
1 likeKeep up your passion dude,
0 likesYou offer a unique
And to some off us a far more enjoyable perspective on youtube
And the world,
There is far to much sugar coated bullshit
Sometimes you just need to tell it how it is
From your perspective.
Some day young, cool politicians will solve all of our problems somehow!
2 likesT-thats not how bribing/blackmail works...
I genuinely enjoy watching rants (as long as they are moral and civil, are based on research, and document history in some form or fashion).
1 likeAlso 3:44 is EmpLemon version of gospel rapper T-Bone
Mad Skillz, my friend, Mad Skillz...
20:03 You could’ve used Carnival Night Zone from Sonic 3. Oh wait, that music has 7 notes from Michael Jackson’s “Jam” in it. SEGA can’t even re-release the game on newer consoles because of this.
405 likestHaT’s HoW tHe LaW wOrKs!
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Ughhhhhhhh.
72 likesThis is like prohibiting people from using certain colors because 30% (or whatever) of a logo uses those colors.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Iona Erofeeff write that down! write that down!
58 likes@ZappoDude aw heck
16 likeshi Jesse. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!
2 likes@EpicZantetsuken Okay, that's less bad than I initially thought though. The way specific colors are patented and trademarked seem to be different between companies, and they only seem to really prevent competing companies or advertisers from encroaching on that "brand". I still think it's stupid though, because in my opinion the success of a brand should depend on the merit of the product or service it represents and not the shutdown of potential competitors. Though I'm not a corporate tycoon so what do I know about the morality of business right
16 likes@Iona Erofeeff Considering people like to copyright words and phrases, you're only predicting the future
4 likesWell, technically not fully true. As the 1993 prototype of Sonic 3 we have has music that would later be in the PC version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Sonic & Knuckles Collection).
3 likesThey’ve only released it on the ds
0 likes@Demonic Pikachu There's also the Steam version.
1 like@FancySC wait really? might have to grab that after i get my check
0 likesIt's their own fault! They ditched the license but kept the songs.
0 likes@Vsus Here --- Hard Times is unreleashed song, so they can do re-release game with this song without trouble. (I can't say the same about Carnaval Night Zone)
0 likes@Demonic Pikachu Sega Genesis Collection has Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles.
0 likesIt's not like there are only 7 notes.
0 likesSeriously. NOW IF I PRESS C IT'S A COPY BECAUSE BETHOOVEN USED C ONCE.
there will never ever be a system as broken as copyright
1 likeIf pirating could actually hurt those companies, there'd be hoards of people pirating stuff not for having it, but for kicking them in the shin.
1 likeThanks for making this and educating us in BullshitLawsTM
1 likeDisney disgusts me,they arrested three people responsable for a club penguin server,they didn't make the game but won't give the rights to its original owners and creators,THIS HURTS THE ARTIST
3 likesCopyright should be a tool to stop against blatant stealing of people's creations. It should be the thing that stops 24 hour Family Guy reuploads, not hurt little Timmy who just wants to play Tony Hawk Pro Skater
2 likesThis dude literally advertised a wallet knife and youtube STILL whining about "aDvERtISeR FrIEndLy cOnTenT!111!!!!!!!11!"
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He did that to make a mockery of what makes shit advertiser friendly.
10 likesI don't know how to say this, but I love you EmpLemon. You're the best. Keep making videos please.
0 likesYou know what? I wanted to make unmonetized videos, playthrough, YTPS and discussions when I moved out. But now? I REAAAALLLY don't think so. I'm not sure that's what I wanna do, if just showing people how to play(and why I like) NSMB, talking about Darkwing Dark or making some random YTP in the heat of passion will get me sued.
1 likeFeels like corporations are just gonna keep growing and growing until there's nothing left for everyone else.
0 likesWishful thinking on my part completely but I just hope that eventually these mega-corporations get so overbloated with copyrights and ownerships that they end up collapsing when they "fly to close to the sun.".
0 likes10:17 In all fairness, during his life Prince was probably the most ruthless copyright enforcers in the entire art world. Plus, he had a huge repulsive response to anything involving the internet. Despite all the revenue and popularity he garnered due to the web, he never changed his mind on it.
0 likesEdit: 12:49 Oh look, it's my hometown!
My problem with trying to change copyright law is that the new law will be written by media conglomerates, for media conglomerates, and qe'd end up more screwed than we were before.
1 likeShame the series is over. I was enjoying getting a feeling of hopelessness every time i was reminded of the fact that copyright machine broke. All jokes aside, a good format for your vids, looking forward to more.
0 likesI love how you actually break down the ideas of what really is happened to youtube. While actually giving real answers. Rather than peeing on yourself and whining that youtube is dead and shit.
0 likesI know this is outta the blue but I been watching for ages and am consistently blown away by your creativity and level of editing. Imo you are the goat youtuber.
0 likesI studied copyright law during my MBA. I specifically looked into the Apple vs Microsoft lawsuit, where Apple sued MS for stealing their 'look and feel'. Ironic, since Apple got its windows UI from PARC and Xerox. Anyway, Apple lost since copyright only covers EXACT copies.
1 likeFair use is a section of the law that ought to be clarified since it's litigated all the time. Fair use involves 1) insignificant amounts of content; or 2) non-commercial use. Specify exactly how many seconds of a song or video may be copied for commercial use.
Then there are parodies and derivative works, which is most of the internet. These are free and clear of copyright law, since they are original expressions. Again, clarify the copyright law accordingly. How much must be derivative and parody? 50%? 10%? 25% Pick and number and write it into law.
"All you ever do is complain!"
179 likesAnd that's why we love you.
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hello labs. we like fortniteeeeee! we like fortniteeee!!!!!!!!!
0 likes@JOD God help your soul if you're doing this for 12 hours.
9 likesThe way YT deals with copyright among other elements is why I gave up awhile ago on trying to make money through the website.
1 likeTouhou is the perfect example if how to copyright correctly. The original creator is the real Chad.
2 likesThis is one of the best videos I have seen recently. Thank you!
0 likesI think, in theory, allowing content to be distributed to individuals rather than institutions is how we can change the system. Something like Patreon allows artists to distribute directly to their customers without interference. Something like that could free copyright from the iron grip of corporate machines.
1 likeOn an unrelated note, please check out my Patreon
If the original copyright laws were kept in the US, the public domain would have progressed to works until 1991. Imagine that.
2 likesIt’s funny that a coin flip to decide whenever or not an appeal is accepted is more fair than the current system
1 likeI have to say the way you do your ad spots is truly unique! It's like you don't even change pace, you just keep right on blasting AS you're doing the spot for the sponsor...you, sir, are EPIC! ☺😂😁
0 likeshas anyone ever told you that you're absolutely fucking amazing at explaining important problems in te most straight, face to face way possible
0 likesMy uncle's a lawyer for these companies, and I got into a huge debate with him about this.
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Could you message emp and explain your uncles POV?
10 likesCould help us figure out what to say.
Imagine abusing Copyright laws amirite
3 likes@antlerman His opinion was basically that it was the law and that people everyone who got copyright claimed was abusing the copyright system. He was very one sided with his opinion.
34 likesI bet he gets some nice sums of money for being the devil's attorney
36 likeshi griffin. we like fortniteee. we like fortniteeee!!!
0 likes@JOD why are you spamming?
2 likes@_craziee_ he was doing a 10 hour livestream of replying to comments
1 like@LGTheOneFreeMan he was doing a livestream on his channel of commenting ok boomer. Now anytime he leaves a legit message people are just going to assume hes spamming lol
1 likeIts good to see someone who still remembers old youtube
0 likesFun fact : I once was told to change the famous Clown Theme for something else for a kid’s theatre show I organized for my town’s daycare. Wtf
1 likeEmpLemon, I would like to translate your videos for free obviously using my voice in order for you to get more public, I could translate them to Spanish because I think you deserve way more views, the quality of your content is amazing and it would be awesome for people who doesn't speak English to be able of seeing your amazing content! Also I could make subtitles if you want!
1 likeImagine if once a property became a part of the public domain, it couldn't be copyrighted again. Even if Disney's copyright on Mickey Mouse somehow ended after 500 years, they would still be able to instantly buy it back, which just defeats the entire purpose of the law in the first place.
1 likeYouTube is pretty much turning into daytime television at this point. That's why they're always shoving Jimmy Kimmel in your face in the home screen.
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hello slayer. We Like Fortnite. We Like Fortnite!
4 likesYou're not the father
0 likesGod I hate Jimmy Kimmel so much, did you know he did blackface once?
3 likesWeegeeSlayer -- I actually never saw Jimmy Kimmel once in my life before EmpLemon video.
4 likes@Falen Demo5 Good job you.
1 likeI thought the wallet was gonna have a clown's license
24 likesi actually like listening to you complain. you do have a point most of the time.
0 likesi sure do love youtube today. a real great time for creators.
0 likesSome how, Emp's face reveal being a Joker cosplay for a wallet ad filmed on location at The Swamp at the University of Florida, feels very much on-brand.
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Emp already facerevealed some years ago, back when he was still doing YTP, in fact. One of his Admiral Ackbar collabs, I believe
0 likesemplemon is truly one of the most un-appreciated youtubers ever. although considering the state of youtube, being a 'youtuber' is more an insult than praise.
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hey luigi. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!
1 like@JOD hey Jod. No one cares! No one careeess!!!!
5 likes@noob2243 Just let him be jeez
0 likes@Hatster yeah let him spam his channel under every comment
4 likesJust checked out JODisHere's channel, and he commented "ok boomer" for 12 hours, so maybe this is just one of his things.
4 likesHow exactly is he unappreciated? I really don't get these types of general comments. His videos have really good like/dislike ratios, high view counts and most of the viewers do appreciate his content. How is he underrated or unappreciated.
1 like@Hatster Go away JOD....I know it's you dude.
0 likes@SiMe He doesn't have more views then Jimmy Kimmel. That's how.
0 likes@SiMe he deserves more
0 likes@jeccf he deserves what he has and nobody sabotaged his current numbers so he doesn't deserve more. When you deserve something it is because you accomplished something through your own effort and realized it all in an honest way or did something to warrant a cause and effect relationship (like commiting a crime and being arrested for it - you deserved to be arrested). Emp did what he did honestly and gained what he did thanks to that and there was no direct interference from any party. He deserves what he has, nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps you could say he deserves more money for his videos because the copyright law is implemented so poorly but that is not directly related to his sub-count and viewership.
1 likeThere is perhaps an argument to be made about his unfair demonetization causing him to have lesser numbers thanks to the algorithm but this discounts everybody else on the platform that he would have had to compete with. That is definitely a point I can't accept or deny due to it being so hypothetical. As it currently stands I think he deserves what he has and that he is a great content creator and yes I would want more people to watch him but I don't think he "deserves" it. Hope I clarified my point in an understandable way :]
waluigi's twitter --- No, he's kinda overrated (I like him thought).
0 likesEmpLemon.
1 likethe only true hero on youtube
And here's how butthurt can a person be when YouTube claims their video.
0 likesYouTube, stop this nonsense. Give this person the money they deserve for their hard work.
you made up for what you said in the last video in this one, so thank you
0 likesfight the power!
and this is why I haven't paid for music in a very long time. only time I ever have is when I know it goes to the artist and not some corporate slime
0 likes“Good artists copy, Great artists steal” - some guy
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hi Yu. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!
1 like@JOD oh my god it's you again lol! hi!
0 likes@YuJia Yeah. He's spamming all over the place here.
4 likes@JOD I just downvoted your post.
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@Farty Person Sorry mate, reddit copypasta stays on reddit
1 likeJesus Christ, this is depressing.
56 likescopyright law existing at all is a tragedy
2 likesWhat I think needs to be done is that claims can be put in court for free with the ceo a highly qualified, trained, and respected judge. Both sides use the law to argue that the claim was correct or that it never should of happened. If the person that got claimed won due to a correct and common sense decision than the thing that did the claim can never claim the person again even if they do something wrong. If the company wins they can do whatever they want with the video and the person if copied the content on purpose can no longer appeal a claim or if by accident could no longer appeal for a year. If the claim was made by someone who doesn't own the claimed property than they can no longer claim anything even if they go to own something and someone steals it than they can do nothing and the company that does own the property can not go and claim the video for the exact same thing. This would give companies less incentive to claim anything without proof without probably getting fired or punished severely, the person that was wrongly claimed can stay safe if they never did anything wrong and videos that use safe harbor would be safe, and the people that own nothing could no longer claim something they don't own. Also youtubes algorithm would change to show content that went through its own vastly upgraded software so people could use it and only block videos labeled for kids and content it deems is a low quality that would be reviewed by many common people before being stopped and it would be changed to correctly block infringements on the guidelines so everyone would be happy. The only way youtube could limit creates is if a high percent of viewers dislike and flag videos for the correct tags and some would be added to more correctly show why it was flagged and viewed by actual people before allowed to be cut off from people. People can also take down incorrect news articles about themselves if people find their claimed to be true and the person didn't watch their content. Anythig else stupid about youtube would end and people could finally be happy.
1 likeAhhh yes... the classic American Legal System
3 likesProbably the best youtube series I watched all month
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hi Ad. we like fortnite! we like fortnite!!!!
0 likes18:00 - Mostly agreeing here. However consider this case, a YouTuber uses 3 minutes of copyrighted material, then ends their video with 2 hrs of black screen. A proportional system may become just as prone to abuse by creators as the current system is abused by media companies.
0 likesIf you want to start making audio-visual content today, stop. You will not see any benefit, and it will likely end in your bankruptcy for including the color green, which exists in someone else’s production. “That’s how the law works.”
5 likeshow messed up is it that people hold copyright over a dead person's work? what if the artist who CREATED that material approved the edit had they been alive? it's unbelievable that companies can make decisions for the dead with nothing more than an old contract
1 likeHey emp: to make this not a problem for the next generation, license your videos under Creative Commons. There's a button somewhere in the video settings.
0 likesEmp, YouTube doesn't want to improve the copyright system. It wants to strangulate the non-corporate entities off of the site and have a circlejerk with the IP megacorporations. I know you're already keeping an eye on other video sites, so it's not even you yourself I'm concerned with, more the people who see this video and will think there's a hope of anything like your suggestions being implemented.
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Indeed, Corporations are the enemy and You-tube is a corporation. That's why CNN and Fox are pushed as legit news sources. And why Jonathon Pies "why Trump won" video is no longer the first search result.
6 likesI swear I wrote a whole essay about this copyright issue, thank God someone else has talked about extensions on copyright protection and how they're bullshit now
0 likesGreat work, Emp Lemon.
0 likesHonestly loving the bootlegged prog epics used in the background, Karn Evil 9, now Thick as a Brick, it's great.
3 likesWhat's next? Warner bros will sue the government for ''Stealing the star spangled
6 likesBanner''
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lol
0 likesPart 1: YouTube copyright system is flawed because of faulty detection
83 likesPart 2: YouTube copyright system is flawed because you can easily circumvent it
Part 3: YouTube copyright system is flawed because copyright is flawed
The shepherds tone is copyrighted
4 likesHOW DO YOU COPYRIGHT A TONE
I had no idea it was this bad. Thank you for informing me.
0 likesThe Happy Birthday song was released into public domain in 2016 when a federal court ruled that Warner had an invalid claim.
7 likes7:43 "I don't see people reliving railroad spikes"
12 likeslaughs in the combined railfan and thomas the tank engine fandoms
Emplemon 2016-2018: Desperately trying to climb out of the Downward Spiral at all cost
216 likesEmplemon 2019: It's free real estate
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hi str8. DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL
5 likes@PersonMan1 Thank you
0 likesIt's the Emplemon, never ending, downward spiral world tour!
0 likesWhen did he say he was trying to climb out?
1 like@MrTriangleWorld Uhh all the time every time
0 likesFuck emp you really killed it with the editing on this one. Straight up outdone yourself. Love your shit bro
0 likesHonestly, I'd argue that patents shouldn't get put on a pedestal as they often get abused in a similar way to copyright, creating and sustaining monopolies and oligopolies (via either them claiming the only ways to do it or them both infringing on the other's patents, which means suing results in a countersuit and mutually assured destruction), by giving big companies the means to go after small and medium size potential competitors and either squash them before they can grow to compete or just prevent them from ever existing until the patent is expired and the product potentially obsolete, while also discouraging innovation with the idea.
1 likeBoth Patent and Copyright law need major reworks, with the former IMO maybe not even being necessary (with good anti-monopoly laws replacing it) while the latter needs a large scale reduction and a lesser degree of punishments.
Funny thing is that ads often break the rules like I've seen more nsfw ads on youtube then videos monetized
2 likesHey, just wanted to note that as an engineer, the patent system is near worthless too, and actually probably does far more harm than good. Pharmaceutical patents are probably the best example, they spend lots of time creating physiologically identical drugs and then pushing them to doctors as "the latest and greatest". But even elsewhere, it's easy enough to create something that's physically unique enough but functionally identical and steal someone's idea, with only giant corporations surviving in the trenches.
1 likeThe fact is, after 50 years of giant corporations writing the laws they have to follow, it's no surprise the laws all help them. Laws exist to protect the existing structure of society, not for some abstract concept of "justice". If your channel threatens the structure of Disney, you will be made to conform - and the law is the tool to make you conform.
That's how THE LAW works!
2 likesCopyright was always this evil. This is how copyright was intended to work. People tried to turn it against its nature and use it for good, but they couldn't contain it's evil. Copyright is unethical. Repeal Copyright.
0 likes2 years ago and at 15:30 emp has a list "Congress Agenda" 4. Is Ukraine.... neat, almost like it's relevant now...
6 likesHe doesn't complain. He's pointing out a problem and in the end he proposes ideas to solve the problem.
1 like“You wanna know how I got these spirals?”
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hi ench. we like fortniteee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!!!
6 likesUzumaki?
10 likesEnchilordo my faaather, was a ytper
1 like"I'm the EmpLemon, baybee!"
3 likes"My father was a Youtube employee...and a fiend. And one night, he goes off greedier than usual. Mommy refutes the copyright claim to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not... one ...bit. So, me watching, he takes the strike to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so downwards?" He comes at me with the copyright strike- "Why so downwards?" He sticks the strike in my mouth - "Let's put a claim on that video!"
7 likesuzumaki
1 likeJODisHere
1 likehashtag youtube is over
by defeating the spiral king, duh
1 likeSteel spheres?
0 likes@Burrito Wyrm horror show mickey?
0 likesIts kind of funny how copyright law has forced a resurgence of old classical music and old plays. In trying to protect new(ish) things it just made people use old things instead. Nobody here is a classical music fan but it certainly works in this format.
0 likes17:40 i just wanna point out a loophole in this argument that a copyright holders revenue on a video should be proportional to the amount of time the copyrighted material shows up. what's stopping someone from deliberately trying to make their videos as long as possible to increase their stake of the revenue by, say, inserting an hour-long black screen at the end?
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I feel that might not get as much views as what we currently have, as the blackout bits will leave people to leave.
1 likethe ending was literally poetic
1 likeI'm still in love with the music choices in your videos.
0 likesMe: Wanna hear a joke?
230 likesFriend: Sure
Me: Youtube Copyright
Friend: What an unoriginal joke
Me: Exactly
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This joke is copyrighted uh OH
7 likes@i don't check my notifications Do what you want cause a pirate is free.
4 likesYou Are A Pirate
2 likesCopyright entirely is a joke.
1 like5:07 but.. That's not how copyright works. Any creative work you make is automatically copyrighted. You can officially register your copyright, but that doesn't create the copyright.
1 likeI've been watching your videos since 2015 and now I have subscribed I love all of your content
1 likeI’ve finally found a safe haven hopefully this one will last longer than the last but with how wanted I am for singing happy birthday in public I’ll give it 2 weeks
2 likesThank youu. Copyright law is not feasible, unreasonable, and extremely restrictive on creativity in the digital age
0 likesHoly shit you've blown up in the last couple years... i remember when you had like 1800 subs... now 400000+ and growing, good job man..
1 likeThe problem lies precisely in the fact that the law is administrated. The law should and shall serve the justice. Administration is but calculating profit. These things are contrary to each other.
1 likeI love the fact he makes fun of a product he got paid to advertise
0 likesIf you have a YouTube distribution license ... What is the point of creating new music?
3 likesIf everyone uses it and pays you? why bother?
Youtube poop Music Video but it's Rusty Cage's bg music
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Hey, could you please upload more? If you're taking a break, it's ok!
1 likeRoblox LokiBlaster what? Oh wait I thought you were both the same account
0 likesDidn't expect you here.
0 likesLove your vids.
PELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
0 likes@ryuko matoi And who asked for your opinion about my opinion?
0 likesYTPMV is modern art.
3 likesOur Lord and savior pelo
0 likesItz Trikki Päïñ.
0 likesoh hi pelo i see you are based
0 likes@Dave Holland ?
0 likesTo crush the metagame:
0 likes> Become YouTube's top exec
> State that, starting soon, everything posted on YouTube is owned by Google
> Buy off Sony, Warner and Viacom with the royalties now in your possession
> Make YouTube directly pay every channel that posts on its platform in a reasonable manner
> Put everything in the public domain just for the lolz
No matter how much you smuggle in content in your videos and filter it with the green-purple sheen, I’ll always like it.
0 likesIt’s your style.
What if you take an automated bot system that uses a group of servers that simultaneously use free VPN services to look like they are in different locations while uploading music all over the internet using bot mails and accounts and spreading it everywhere til the companies cant stop it.
0 likesI kinda wanna ask Bernie about copyright protection and his thoughts on shortening it.
I appreciate your clown representation in videos
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Yo
0 likesAlan Walker copyrighted the non-copyright version of his own song
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seriously? here goes the tiniest shard of respect i still had for him
14 likes@Vsus Here I always thought that song was generic anyways
5 likesAlso Paul Atrocity's We Going On was claimed
@ketruB what else did he do
0 likes@ahmost 22 all of his music is just remixes of fade
16 likeshe seemingly struck gold with it but i really wish he did something more than jsut make the same song, with the same structure, progression, over and over and over and over again
whenever you hear any of his new music it just sounds exactly the same as anything else he ever put out
hola donn. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
2 likes@JOD my father legitimately flossed a few weeks ago when i was getting ready for school
5 likessorry to break the boomer combo, but he doesn't drink monster
source?
0 likes@T.M.A AXAG just look up the NCS video
1 likeHow would that even work? His songs are used in almost lifehack video from 2012 to now.
2 likesI thought that was part of the meme or joke from what I saw so
2 likesWeren't his songs royalty free, you know, like HOME songs and every shit that exists in the "electronic gems" channel?
0 likes@ketruB his musics are like musics Hans Zimmer composes to movies based on Dan Brown books:
1 likeAll remixes of one song
@Ω 0 lmao
0 likesI remember that lmao
0 likes"Copyrights should function similarly to the patent system, by protecting small creators by getting run over by the corporate machine."
1 likeLmao no, that's not how patents work at all. Patents are weapons that companies use to sue other companies out of business. If you believe otherwise, it's because you've never been through the process of actually applying for a patent, and/or have never actually (tried to) read any patent recently approved by the USPTO.
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@q ǝɯɐN ou go watch Jörg Sprave on patent,
0 likesit;s recommended by someone on this comment section
First of all: I agree with the central point of this video completely. We desperately need a complete copyright reform. That said, I do see two problems with what is said in this video.
0 likesThe first is when you talk about how you ended up "copyrighting" your song. I realize that this was basically an aside and not all that important to the point your were making. However, it is also completely wrong and perpetuates one of the most common misconceptions of copyright. You didn't copyright the song. You always had the copyright over the song because you made it. What you did do was register your copyright so you would be in a better position to assert that copyright (through - for example - cease and desist letters or law suits). Yes, Ridiculousness needs your permission to use your video. They always did. Yes, that show (and similar ones) are completely based on infringing on the copyright of those who are unlikely to have the means or willingness to assert it. If anything, that shows how broken the current copyright system is.
The other part that bothers me is the changes you want to be made by YouTube. It helps to understand what YouTube's position is. They are the ones distributing the videos you upload. You promise them that you own the copyright to what you upload. As the ones doing the distributing, they are the ones who can be sued by the actual copyright holders if you were mistaken {or lied) about owning the copyright. That's why they have filters to detect copyrighted content automatically and have the ability for copyright holders to flag content as being something they hold the copyright to.
It's also why they side with the claimant so often (and initially at the very least). The claimant can sue them if they don't respond to the claim and it turns out to be a valid one. On the other hand, they do not have an obligation towards the uploader, so taking a video offline or changing its monetization is not something they could ever be sued over.
In fact, the whole idea of ad revenue going to the copyright claimant just another way to do that: appease the ones who might sue them. They are based on the agreements that they have with people about this. This is all meant to balance their need (not getting sued) with their wish (not taking down videos in order to keep content creators happy).
That's why things like ad revenue sharing the way you suggest aren't really an option. YouTube can't impose rules on copyright claimants. All they can do is offer the claimant the ad revenue in exchange for the promise not to sue while the video is kept online. They could offer less of the revenue, but the claimant is the one that decides in the end. If they refuse, the result will likely be that the video is taken down instead, because YouTube will definitely choose that over the risk of getting sued. You're right that it's unfair. But you cannot blame YouTube for that. It's the copyright claimants and the underlying copyright system we have that cause the unfairness...
(And as a final note, "Happy Birthday" actually is in the public domain and did not leave it (which also means that people singing it did not infringe on such a copyright). A big, powerful and rich company bullied people into believing that they held the copyright. They did this by threatening to sue people who used the song without paying them royalties. Because it was a large company with lots of funds, most people just paid or avoided the song all together. Of course, that served to lend more credibility to their copyright claim. Eventually, someone challenged their claim, and a few years ago, it was finally ruled that the company was unable to prove its claim to the copyright over either the lyrics or the melody, essentially making the song free to use again. Yep, it's once again a tale of the failure of the current system...)
You know what's fucking sad, I completely forgot that copywrite over work is not supposed to last forever. I really hope that when I create worlds and characters, regardless if I'm actually good at it, it'll be in the public domain in 10 or 15 years so people can use it and mess with it all they want to, change it and make their own stories out of it.... hopefully by then we have changed the law more so that big companies can't just claim it forever... I'm honestly really fucking depressed that if the law was different, we could have free access to some of our favorite creations growing up.
1 likeDisney: how dare you give us free publicity.
2 likesAlso Disney: I found an anime not that many people know about in the US. Let's steal it and to hide we did, we'll sue them when they try to come to the US. The world will never know.
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How about before Youtube was bought out/sold it's soul, corporations were caught uploading their own copyrighted content just so they could attack Youtube.
0 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark if I were YouTube, I would have banned them. Maybe even sued for slander.
0 likesYou might as well, repeal the copyright system and replace it with something else.
0 likesA law that goes un-enforced is just words on a paper, sitting in a file cabinet gathering dust.
0 likesA law that is over-enforced is an abusive mockery of the legal system.
Emplemon is going insane.
4 likesit's like we're progressing into the dark ages
7 likesCopyright law is made way before YouTube or the internet ever it disgraceful there are zero updates when it comes to it
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hi tom. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
0 likesGod I sure do love the oligopolies that run the whole worldwide media industry!
0 likesWhen you start being the sole benefactor of YouTube, they'll listen to your complaints. Otherwise, you're preaching to the choir.
0 likesUnfortunately, the money which the big media corporations get from unfairly claiming videos is very lucrative, and any changes to the broken system will not benefit them financially, so as things stand, no positive changes will be made.
0 likesI agree with this video but I gotta say. I still buy CDs to get music lol.
0 likes1st option is from the merch booth of the band since this seems to put the most money into the pockets of the bands I'm supporting.
2nd option is from a local or small chain record store like Zia Records here in the Southwest.
The part that really gets me about this whole situation is that a lot of the actual song writers and character designers employed by these companies couldn't care less about copyright laws.
81 likesSo I appreciate the idea of having a "more fair" system that's sensitive to the needs of youtubers, buuuuuut
20 likesThe problem with reform is that half measures in the right direction tend to take the wind out of the sails for more radical change. Your suggestion still empowers large corporations to engage in automated grift using YTs tools. I mean, first of all it's strictly worse in the short term for copyright holders to only make percentages of ad revenue for claimed content, instead of the whole pot, so there's basically no incentive for them to advocate for that. Regardless, if it became clear that public sentiment was against these exploitative practices and things were gonna have to change, this is exactly the sort of face-saving self-interested reform that large rights holders would throw their weight behind.
There is no "win win" - there rarely is when it comes to public policy and high dollar private interests. The copyright vultures must lose one way or the other. If you're on the side that says they deserve to, might as well go all the way.
Minor, insignificant point to make: Vinyl record sales are in a resurgence right now, mostly because of hipsters and people buying as a collector's item of sorts. Obviously streaming platforms are the dominant force of the industry, but it's an interesting facet of the state of music.
0 likesIs there a legal way to counter sue companies who've copyright claimed a video, took the revenue from it for a while and then dismissed the claim?
0 likesThe problem is the general public just don't care about that. As always almost no one cares about new laws until it's too late.
4 likesJoker emp was the highlight of my day.
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hi random. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite
3 likeshe thicc
4 likesIVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU PATRICK
2 likes@JOD welcome back
0 likes"looking cool Joker" - some cat
1 like@JOD silence verified account
1 likeUpload a video
0 likeswhile i agree for the most part, how will reducing the copyright protection time help? sorry if i am wrong but cant they just renew or reapply for whatever entity got released from protection?
0 likesAs a musician myself I despise copyright laws
0 likesMy own original songs played in a completely downtuned guitar gets flagged cause it happens to share a name with another song
i just need to stress to the fellow humans that's adult enough to understand. this does not make communism okay. that's like setting your house on fire for having mismatching colours on your curtains.
1 likeI said the exact same thing about the Beatles. Had the copyright laws of now been in effect in the USA and the UK during the late 50s, pretty much every band we remember today from then wouldn’t exist.
0 likesInb4 this video gets nuked for "harrassing" Youtube's corporate team.
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youtube is going to hell if Susan keeps acting like a Karen
26 likesI am sorry, but what does "inb4" mean?
0 likes@Mattok101 DigitalTamer in before
13 likessup andrew. we like fortnite. we like fortnite
3 likesShhh. Don't spoil the next rant.
4 likes@Ariston Garza she asked to see the manager, then she became the manager.
6 likesJODisHere we do love fortnite. We do.
0 likesSusan's sister is married to the guy who owns Google. Susan totally got the position because she knows how to run Youtube, and not at all because of the nepotism of a burgeoning trillion-dollar techno-aristocracy.
8 likesBetter download this (as well as Part 1 and 2) before they ruin it for everyone!
0 likes@Soviet Billionaire interesting fact, what's your source?
0 likesThere will never ever be another YouTuber like EmpLemon
0 likesAs a wise (man?) once said, "No copyright law in the Universe in going to stop me!"
0 likesThose who abuse the law, deserve none.
0 likesBTW, public domain isn't dead — it's just prone to Disneyfication.
And there currently standing legal systems allow for no space inbetween copyright and public domain.
For starters, we need a sticky noncomercial license with no attribution required legally available.
The sad part about this is that this video will in itself have a small impact on the whole copyright legislation. It just makes me really sad.
0 likesIf the Copyright Law is a joke, why aren't we laughing?
61 likesSimple.
People don't laugh at demeaning jokes about themself.
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He was actually talking about corporations, NOT the people.
1 likeI genuinely do not think they will EVER budge on this subject. Unfortunately, this is the way of things to be Royal one must have royalties. In the same way peasants farmed the land and gave all their bounty to the king who redistributed it, much is the same with media and they'll run it into the ground before ever making it 'fair and equitable'. Seriously. Still, this video is simply fucking amazing and I couldn't agree more with your perspective.
1 likeAs a lawyer specialising in copyright enforcement I'd just like to say 'Boo hoo, you don't like it, do something else.'
1 likeAnd thanks for the money.
I'd listen to you complain about paint dry all day long!
1 likethe best part is that nobody can do anything about it without out-bidding disney whem it comes to lobbying. and that is LITERALLY impossible. So yes, the public domain is dead! Rejoice corporate overlords!
2 likesThis is the equivalent of ranting on Facebook to all your similar interest friends. No problem fam I'll go change my copyright strategies after all I'm John Corporation.
0 likes"we investigated ourselves and found us to be in the right" -Sony
0 likesloved this series
0 likesCopyright for music is kind of tricky in itself. But for classical music it depends on who recorded the piece. Original works aren't recorded so record labels have the upper hand in that regard.
1 likeThis is one of the reasons why during my time at Cypress College I arranged my own classical orchestra library for content creators. Among other original works.
It's up on my royalty free playlist here on YouTube and SoundCloud. I never really cared how you downloaded it. And since nearly 8 years ago people have made foreign websites dedicated to ripping and redistributing my early musical works. I'm no big major company so I really didn't care if my works were distributed behind my back. I always saw that as a compliment among even being noticed.
I love how spongebob and/or the simpsons can be used to showcase every aspect of life
1 likeman this series used to be actual informational on how to slightly help people with trying to fix the situation in place and it's turned into another complain fest. Yeah you could say "oh but the system will get worse and this advice wont help soon" but it's better than just complaining, the whole fucking site has been doing that and look how far it's gotten
0 likesAn idea I have for a revised copywright law, and bear with me becuase I have no knowledge on laws besides "drugs and killing bad", is that once the creators/copyright holders make a certain amount of profit from the media they don't have control over how it's used outside of official retail areas/websites. Of course this means that people who make things for free dont own their own thing but in those cases people just want the recognition from making the thing itself, but maybe this law could have an addendum so different people in the same boat dont get fucked over, like in Rusty Cage's case, if such a thing in law exists. if it doesnt than i have no idea what to do and i dont plan on becoming a politician anyway
0 likes"What are we gonna do about it?"
2 likesMe: Looks at a guillotine
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ima do a French revolution
0 likesThese copyright claimers are really as thick as a brick.
3 likesThe craziest thing that is happening to copyright is how youtube is allowing people to break the law. Technically, a content creator owns the copyright of said content the moment it is officially made real. Registering copyrights only puts things on the books and is not required for ownership. If someone else registers the copyright before the creator, that register is invalid. With that information, YouTube has frequently let criminals fraudulently claim copyright that they don't actually own with no repercussions because the system makes it so easy to do so.
0 likesEssentially copyright is responsible for the dank meme singularity that has been thrust upon the user experience if anyone making use of a digital platform
0 likesWell, I just copyrighted the Sun Tzu quotes and names. Now give me money!
4 likesRewind: really bad
437 likesSite: really bad
YouTube: EvErYtHInG’s FiNe!
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hello rev. we like fortnite. we like fortnite
1 likeEverything is fine!
8 likes*rewind sound*
Everything is fine!
*rewind sound*
This is Requiem
3 likesCopyright issues is a symptom of a larger problem of corporatism imo, it's just plain destroying everything.
0 likesMaybe this is a bit much, but I might go as far to say that these big corporations and their tactics to make all the money go to them has held back society more than almost anything in all of human history
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Nah, thats just about right.
1 like11:15 I have song an bootleg Finnish translated version of the song. lol.
0 likesBut no birthday song is anything compared how much copyright law I break.
It's also pretty cool to think that many people singing the song don't even know what the copyright law is.
Btw I am still kind of confused on how exactly copyright law translates across countries, Because I do not live in USA.
American copyright sounds so messed up. I know here in Australia as soon as you create a piece whether it's art, music or anything inbetween, it is automatically protected from copyright. No patent or copyright approval needed.
1 likeAlso, in Australia a piece is covered for the ENTIRETY OF A PERSONS LIFE PLUS 50 YEARS before falling into the public domain, and this cannot be altered in ANY WAY.
Another thing to add: I'm not sure this exists in America, but in Australia we have something called appropriation. What this means is that as long as you build upon the original piece your new piece is protected by copyright. This means that YTP's and the like are legally protected in Australia. Same goes for sampling music.
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The 50 years after seems a bit excessive.
0 likesThere should be a way to come right out and admit that "I don't own the song. Please put an ad on this and pay those who do." That way if someone makes a lyrics video, the right people get paid without a copyright strike.
0 likesPeople really need to protest against some of the laws,because this is getting TOO OUT OF HAND.
0 likesWhat I find incredibly stupid is if it can get caught by the content ID system, then why the hell when you upload a video can't you get...
0 likes"Youtube has detected this song by this artist at this time stamp: [tick all that apply]
1. This is incorrect.
2. I am the copyright holder.
3. I am licenced to use the copyrighted material.
4. Use of this copyrighted material is covered under the Fair Use exception.
5. Other - Including disputed claims, incorrect attribution, and issues of jurisdiction (please specify)
6. I would like to licence this copyrighted work for a one time limited use in this video (Free for up to 100,000 views per year and $20 flat rate for non-monetized videos or 2% gross revenue share for monetized videos).
And why when someone files a copyright claim, can't you get something along the lines of?
"Please submit this claim to be arbitrated by an independent 3rd party for a $25 fee (refunded if your appeal is upheld). Be aware making a false claim about copyright is a crime. A ruling by Youtube does not establish the fact of any copyright by law. Either party may still choose to file a legal claim in court under the DMCA, although failure to dispute an infringement when notified (within a reasonable period) may constitute consent to the specified use."
That would be sane and fair for everyone but the problem is these giant corporations don't care so much about the money (in these nickel and dime cases) but rather they don't want to establish any kind of legal precedent or surrender one single iota of their legal rights just in case it somehow massively matters in the future. I think they're concerned that copyright might go the same way as trademark law with a use it or lose it provision.
Pretty sure I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum politically given your example of a "radical" but goddamn not only do I hate copyright laws, I also hate the "giant media corps." I just want small business and small government goddammit. The US needs to open up the antitrust laws and start taking care of these massive conglomerates. Disney and Google come to mind
0 likes"Geriatric Turbo Boomers" is my new favorite phrase
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Trade mark it
3 likes@Captain Mercury Just like how Fox tried to trade mark the phrase "ok boomer"
3 likes@Otaku Person did they seriously tried to?
1 like@Captain Mercury Yes. Here's an article explaining it: https://adage.com/article/media/fox-files-trademark-ok-boomer/2216566
8 likes@Otaku Person holy shit, lol
1 like@LordVader1094 heres the funny thing, the article sounds suspiciously unsure about what it'll be. and the mockup looks like someone did it in powerpoint. so i'm sure that they just wanted the phrase, no matter how much they have to lie
0 likesChange is very hard, especially against growing greed, we live in the second guided, age, after all. 100 year cycle 1920-2020 here we go again.
0 likesMy whole view of the copyright system has been altered... Wow
1 likeCompletely unrelated to the video, but i think something's wrong with YouTube (more than usual anyway). I've heard of people being mysteriously unsubscribed from YouTubers before, but it's never happened to me personally. However, just this morning i saw that i was unsubscribed from both Real Life Lore and EmpLemon, so idk what that's about.
1 likeSomeone show this to the government. Now.
3 likesThe copyright for music is so enforced because it's SO much easier to detect copyrighted music
0 likes"I don't see people rushing to relive public lynchings" I meeeaan... So long as the courts continue to ignore high crimes from the elite while punishing kids for having some weed, yeah, I know a lot of people that would love to take the law into their own hands.
0 likesReminds me of when Sony and Naughty Dog kept copyright-striking internet users over discussing the last of us 2 before release.
0 likesI dig your music tastes, now let's hope that use of the instrumental version of Thick as a Brick by Jethro Toll doesn't get FUCKING CLAIMED!
0 likesOne thing you've taught me is to not be a dead subscriber.
32 likesAnd I promise, I won't. Not for you, Emp. Thank you.
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hi Amber. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite
0 likes"youtubers dont use copyrighted content because they hate media companies and want them to lose money." but thats my opinion exactly
1 likethis is why i love siivagunner, a channel made to make high quality rips of music with other songs or memes
1 likeI had a conversation with a musician a while ago who made the points that "he just wants to make sure he can live off his creations" and "wants to make sure his children will be able to as well" and then he whined about how hard it is to compete with piracy because it's free.
1 likeWhile I didn't agree, I respected his opinion and refrained from confronting him about it.
Having now heard the original premise of copyright law of course his point seems completely ridiculous, but it demonstrates that the misuse of it runs so deep that it doesn't even get picked up on anymore. Not resting on your laurels, my ass.
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"Copyright as it is fine right now, if it only benefits me of course"
2 likesIf I had control of YouTube I would use it to war against the corporate media...not pander to it.
0 likesA thrilling conlcusion to the world renown, critically acclaimed series.
20 likesGood stuff as usual.
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Emplemons content has gotten better and better ever since that comment put him on the downward spiral
0 likesridge wallets are great but way too expensive, you can get the same thing on amazon for 15 bucks instead of 70, emp should put an amazon affiliate link to those instead
0 likesthe madman went to The Swamp to make a 3 second clip of him dressed up as Joker Rick. What dedication.
1 likeThe only thing i can see that would be a problem with copyright holders receiving a percentage of the earnings from a video as a whole is if some schlob decides to create a video where the copyrighted material is featured someplace within the video but the rest of the video could be anything else, stretched for hours even, of something not even remotely substantial like a blank canvas or non copyrighted visual to fill to the void. Like it or not i don't think that'll ever become a viable means of compromise in the youtube copyright landscape.
0 likesCopyright really has always confused me. In about every single instance, excluding full length unaltered copyrighted content, a copyright claim has done absolutely NOTHING to help the claimant, the claimed, nor the root problem. A clip or a portion of your content used by youtubers or simply by regular people making memes has ALWAYS, ALWAYS had a major impact on the popularity of that piece of content. If "Dragostea din tei" or the guy who danced to it, the "Numa Numa" guy, went around and pushed fair use laws on every video, neither the song nor the video would have gotten nearly as popular. Another example would be how Nintendo approached copyright with most of their games. They were very much opposed to let's players making content off their game on youtube, meanwhile actual developers and marketers with more than 2 working synapses in their brain PAID youtubers to make a let's play of their game.
0 likesEat the rich, eat the old, eat copyright laws, eat my ass
Who do these videos not have more than 5 mil views? And why doesn’t EmpLemon not have over a million subscribers? Great work and great video overall. Very helpful and important
0 likesMost of my music is uh...pretty illegal then. Of course I want to copyright it, but While its completely original composition-wise, I'm not sure if its possible to get it copyrighted since its almost 100% sampled.
0 likesImagine you know a different and small independent website which is like YouTube 2005-2009 ... and not sharing it with anyone's to preserve it ... ;)
1 likeToilet paper was invented in 1891. This is the most informative and valuable part of the video to me. It's eerie how recent in history that is. Toilet paper has only existed for 118 years. Before that, in tens of thousands of millions of years of human evolution, nobody had even conceptualized toilet paper. They just accepted that, after they poop, there was nothing to wipe with, and nobody thought about it.
0 likes16:30 "You are impeding the progression of culture and art"
47 likesMan really do got a point, kinda sad to look at it that way
at first i thought youtube copyright system was a cringe compilation, but then i realised, it was a try not to laugh challenge
0 likesbro these vids are so underrated its actually scary how many people dont care about this shit
1 likeHonestly if the platform becomes too corporate, then ... Dailymotion? I don't think they have a downward spiral
0 likesWe live in a copyrighted society
3 likesEmplemon: Critiques Youtube
101 likesYoutube: This video has been taken down by youtube, it violates our new Harassment Policy
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hello str8. we like fortniteee! we like fortniteee!!!!!
1 likeYou’re such a great video essayer.
0 likesLiterally everything Marvel has ever made should have been in the public domain for over 3 decades now. It's fucking insane.
1 like19:14 millions of people paying a hundred dollars a year, plus ad revenue for the platform, should be enough money.
1 likeSadly, patents don't really work like you said. They're mostly used by pharmaceutical corporations to sell cheaply produced medicine at an inflated price, while small inventors really don't have the resources to pay the patent lawyers and engage in court battles lasting years. Jörg Sprave has a pretty good video about the small guy's perspective on patents.
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Also, the 21 years are pretty easy to get around. They change the product enough that they can patent it as a new product, but little enough that if someone tries to produce the older version, there's enough similarities to sue them. This shouldn't really work, but the fact that the megacorporations have enough money for lawyers while their smaller would-be competitors really don't makes it work.
0 likesreminder that apple keeps the patent for circular pizza boxes in their dragon pile of patents, and worlds corp literally patented the concept of an mmo, has sued all of the big companies with mmos like blizzard... and they win. fucking insane.
1 like@Frank B The corruption of intellectual property is horrible for everyone, except the super rich. It's honestly disgusting how much money can be made by "owning" an idea someone else tought of 50 years ago. These laws were supposed to help people get recognized for their work and make money from it, thus encouraging innovation and competition. Now, they're the weapons of ancient and huge corporations. These corporations wield them against the very people who are supposed to do the innovating by keeping ideas that should be public domain by any reasonable metric behind closed doors. This, besides killing competition, also gives them the ability to slowly raise prices while degrading quality. Who are you gonna turn to? Our up-and-coming competitors? The ones going bankrupt because we sued them into the ground? I don't care where you are on the political compass. If you lean left, hate this because it's used to concentrate power in the hands of the bourgeoisie while keeping the rest down. If you lean right, hate it because it kills the very free market that these companies owe their existence to. The people in charge of them believe in nothing except growing and maintaining their own power and money.
1 like@o m 100%
0 likesi feel like the corporate are about to reach a limit with the live action mulan and nintendo's switch being the last console, and friday night funkin expandong off of minecraft mods and undertale games/music and gary's mod with making your own crap and remaking the copryrighted stuff to avoid it's grasp but i have to say it's not exactly the step against but i feel like it can help with that with it being less tied to a theme or format
1 likeGood news about Happy Birthday! It's not actually under copyright because the claim was declared invalid in 2016
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Thank you
0 likesImagine this being the first youtube video someone watches
0 likesHeh, This is why you should read the "Ego Book" (The Ego and His Own) by Max Stirner and "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. Copyright law is ultimately a spooky phantasm created by the ruling capitalist class as a way of rent-seeking for something that they mostly-likely didn't create or had a hand in creating. Not only that, it's also about power, if the rich and powerful can control the culture, they are able to send out their messages and propaganda more easily because they have almost unlimited power and a huge proverbial microphones (News Channels, Organizations, Movie Studios) that the average person doesn't not, so the ideas of the capitalists are the ones that get heard and accepted by the majority.
0 likesWhat Needs to Happen with Copyright:
108 likes-Music sampling needs to be considered fair use
-Duration time needs to be cut down to 60-70 years
-Fan works should probably also be considered fair use (Although i'm not sure)
-Revenue Sharing with copyright holder and the user who used the copyright (again, not sure how this would work in Youtube's case)
-Video Sharing Sites should be more diligent to point out what fair use is and isn't. (Edit: I change my opinion this rule. Safe Habor basically makes this impossible)
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60-70 is way too danm long
19 likesI'd cut it down to atleast 30
Bird Brain Lol why? That would literally be 35 years of og copyright and 35 years of renewal if wanted.
2 likes@The Plains Jamsorry, kinda misread that
0 likes@Bird Brain It's okay
0 likesHow'd this be?
6 likes-Everything is fair use except uncreative rips that have no derivative merit.
-Appeals get reviewed by a jury of random, authentic users with incentives to make correct judgements. Only authentic users that prove their genuine activity have a right to have this.
-Claimants must be authentic in some way, too.
-False claims revoke the right to claim for a period of time.
@cédric léonard That first one is straight up no for me dawg. Everything being fair use is gonna lead to a lot of bullshit with property theft.
2 likes@The Plains Jam Didn't OP exclude "uncreative rips with no derivative merit?"
1 likeKendell Okay, but what would you define as uncreative? Especially in court, what exactly be the standard?
1 like@The Plains Jam Straight-up rips of something, more towards bootlegging reuploads.
7 likesKendell well okay, let’s actually test this hypothesis. Let’s say I upload a compilation of clips from a certain show that have no commentary. They’re placed in a top ten order or anything, they’re cuts up from the show. Would this be considered fair use?
1 like60-70 is way to much. 30 max
2 likes@Woo Six Dude, 30 is way too little. 70 would be the natural evolution of the previous laws years.
0 likesWoo Six 60-70 is good enough by its own. The issue is then when you do it + life of author, it lasts too long
1 likeThe Plains Jam patents are 20 years. 30 makes it so copyrighted stuff can expire within a lifetime, which is good, because then the author/media conglomerates can’t really on the safe stuff for all their life, and are obligated to create new original IPs. This also means that authors can use copyrighted stuff in the public domain that came out when they where alive and thus has still at least some cultural relevance. Not a lot of stuff is that interesting from 70 years ago.
9 likes@Woo Six I don't agree.
0 likesCopyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue. 30 years, although seems like a long time, in reality isn't. I mean like the 1990s were 30 years ago and almost seems like they were still 20 years ago. Somethings take a bit more time to generate a good amount of money or popularity. Having the copyright time be 60, 70 or hell even 50 years would give the copyright holder enough time for the product to make money and have other creators use these stories later on in the future.
Guardian No, that’s literally no time at all. 60-70 years is adequate time and a natural evolution to the provision before it took a giant leap.
0 likes@The Plains Jam
5 likes1970s is certainly the forgotten and unappreciated nostalgia of this decade and last decade. arguably the 80s too, to a much lesser degree. so 40-50 years is adequate though. the fans and creators inspired by the work of that time now can offer a new look, a different perspective a modern piece completely separated from the olde times.
still, why do you believe that 60-70 years is suitable, considering it covers the entirety of an authors lifespan (assuming one made it when she's 20)? imagine living off the monetary compensation in your retirement — is this reasonable that you're cockblocked by some hag that made something before your parents ever born, punishing your new rendition and artistic work (or bootleg)?
i don't like the attitude of limiting a form of creative work in the span of half a century. However, seeing the current length of copyright only makes me weep so any improvement is acceptable. 40 years should be enough to milk a franchise dry to the bones, and punish everyone else's creativity or lack thereof. personally though, i would rather avoid companies abusing that single success product to the point of boredom uncreativity. and 40-50 years is already long enough that people have move onto new styles and expressions of creativity.
@DawnPraiser So, when it comes to making my argument for this, I usually think about the company or person first before anything else. I think that 60-70 years is adequate simply because it gives the creator a great amount of time for their creation to make money and for the creation to somewhat be relevant in the public eye so that people can use the property when it goes public domain. For example, a new hope is about 43 years old, if we were to go by my guidelines, it would be public domain in about 23 years from now which would be 2043. It does seem like a long while, but being such a cultural icon it would stay pretty relevant for a long while.
0 likes@The Plains Jam
4 likeswhen i think about copyright, i first pay attention to how much and how long should an entity hold the right to control, restrict and profit from their content. however, your points regarding cultural and creative relevance in the eyes of the public or consumers strikes me odd.
happy birthday is a cultural icon ingrained within the English language for as long as a century and a couple decades. even today, and i think for decades to come, happy birthday will be sung by children, kids and ecstatic parents on their child's birthday. should the descendants of the holder of happy birthday own the right to control and restrict the derivative work of a 100+ years old work? not to mention the fact that these descendants have nothing to do with the musical composition itself, although it's culturally relevant.
i don't think cultural relevance should play a part that large as to lock any creative derivatives for a whole generation. although rare, cultural relevance itself can last as long as possible and theoretically spanning centuries. so basing the expiration of copyright ownership completely on cultural relevance sounds completely bogus if content can last as long as centuries (consider religion, written text, arts from past civilisations still inspiring artists today). i think you'll agree with me on this hence why you chose a new hope.
where should we draw the line for when a creative work should enter a domain? both yours and mine are completely arbitrary choices. mine based on assuming that someone makes content in his/her 20s and no longer can profit off royalties from it after his/her 60-70s. additionally assuming that someone in his/her 10-20s would no longer be satisfied with nostalgia after his/her 50-60s/60-70s if not already forgotten.
@DawnPraiser Well that's just it. The timescale is completely arbitrary and non-objective. I can just as easily say that every copyrighted work should never go into the public domain forcibly and have that be valid. I'm just basing my number on security than anything else. I'd rather have my content be commercially viable for atleast a couple decades just ensure that it makes a profit that i'm satisfied with.
0 likesThe Plains Jam that profit security sounds like welfare and do people even live that long when life span varied when renewing copyright isn't that hard to do 60-70 it's at best ridiculous
1 likeedit:I take that back when a copyright can be renewed a company like disney will still abuse it heck thats what they are doing to the mouse I just believe you need to be reasonable over the period of copyright before it become public domain
what needs to happen with copyright:
0 likesGET RID OF IT ENTIRELY
@The Plains Jam So if you ask me to bring you a few slices of pie, I should give you six or seven slices? Out of eight?
3 likesI think seventy years of copyright protection is ludicrous. Most IPs have a shelf life of about a decade or two, unless they're owned by one of the three HUGE conglomerates; in which case, an IP can be sequel'd, rebooted, and spinoff'd indefinitely. They're their most popular in the first year or so, then get some longevity out of merch sales, maybe conferences if it's a REALLY big IP. When they stop making money, what's their value to the copyright holder except as a way to rent sit, and make sure nobody can use those settings and characters to tell new stories? (Nevermind that fan fiction is a thing, and this happens all the time without people getting stuffed by copyright holders; and the copyright holders either don't care or aren't aware, because fan fiction doesn't impact their bottom line.)
Seventy years is the greater part of anybody's lifespan. To reference your earlier example of citing "A New Hope", I actually had some ideas on how you could fix the "Star Wars" prequels. I'd also be eighty before "Revenge of the Sith" would enter public domain. So, what would be the point? I could maybe bask in a decade of my earned wealth before dying - or drink myself out of shame to an early grave - and then nobody could give their take on my take until 2145 - nearly a century and a half after the original rendition.
As a guy trying to make video games, I'd be happy for my IPs to enter the public domain after about thirty years post publication. That's plenty of time for that initial sales boom, plus retro sales after twelve to fifteen years. Assuming it didn't flop on arrival; and even so, I'd be fine with releasing an IP nobody cared about into the wild to see whether or not someone else would pick it up and see if they could fix it.
The problem I think everyone has with your perspective is that it's not got sufficient justification. You say this: "Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue." It's not wrong on principle, but that reasoning can only stretch so far. Certainly not "infinitely into the future", like one of your posts suggested. Contrary to what you think, validity requires validation, and you can't even convince people that seventy years is an okay time frame.
@Filthy Casual I feel like a lot of people aren't understanding what I mean by "duration." When I'm talking about 60-70 year number, I'm talking about if the holder wants to RENEW that copyright. I don't know any small holder who would want to renew their property for another 35 years unless it did reach to the status of Star Wars. The 60-70 is not a guarantee, it's just choice.
0 likesAlso, I don't like this argument of "new ideas can come to franchises from before". I do like to see different interpretations of properties (this is why I was excited for Brightburn even though it was a mediocre movie), but I think stories inspired by those properties can turn out even better than just doing imaginings. Like for example, Undertale is largely inspired by Earthbound and RPGs like it. Would Undertale be as remembered today if it was simply a retelling of Earthbound, or another sequel not from Shigesato itoi? I'm not opposed to different people reimaging or adding to other ideas in stories (this is why I recommend we make fanfiction fair-use), but I think it's overall better that we can be inspired by the ideas of past content to make something new. People remember the story the wizard of oz, but no one remembers the other books written by other people no matter how good they are. Everyone knows about Tarzan of the apes, but not the other books by different people that came after. Most people don't know what the fuck Flash Gordon is, but you bet your sweet ass they know what Star Wars is which was one of the inspirations of star wars. Would Star Wars be a bit hit if it was a massive reimaging of flash gordan?
@The Plains Jam bring that down to patent like amount for small works (pretty much anything), and a authors lifetime for bigger works (fantasy universes, etc.). It should be pretty fair that way.
0 likes@Gorionus Patents are usually for 14 years. Why would you bring copyright down to that level?
0 likesThe first 3 points are already fair use, but no corporate cares about fair use, they just want to make 0.0001% more money
0 likesGuvyyg Vuhh fan works and sampling are not fair use.
0 likes10:10 it’s the golden rule man. The law is written by the monied interest for the monied interest. Ie..the rich, whether people or corporation.
0 likes15:26 true Congress dosnt want to try and solve actual problems when they can just fuck around with trying to impeach trump while living the lives of billionaires
4 likesOh boy, wait till this guy realizes just how terribly the patent system also works.
0 likesLiterally the exact opposite as how you described it. Look it up.
Both copyright and patent laws are a serious mess.
Nice use of Thick As A Brick, Emp. Love your use of Prog
0 likesI remember when this guy did a documentary on Leafy
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1 likeKOT
0 likesJODisHere notice me
1 likeHe has other content, y'know
1 likeand it still had the same premise of yt intentionally destroying creators
5 likesThat was a good documentary. Did you see the one he did on Stanislav Petrov?
1 likefortnite???!!?!?
0 likesJODisHere ???
0 likesTom Hill yeah
1 likeall you ever do is complain
0 likesall you ever do is complain
0 likesJODisHere bruh
1 likeI only hope we get more YouTube Geographic and Never Ever videos.
1 likethe content cop just got taken down.
0 likesi remember when he started back up on spinge bill
0 likesEthan Konovalenko I know
0 likesWow! What a useful comment! It clearly shows us what videos this guy makes! Haha! It’s not totally garbage humour you’re using haha!
0 likesRemember when he did a rant about his viewerbase?
0 likesRemember when he did a dank meme montage?
Remember when he complained?
Remember when he did a youtube poop?
EmpLemon constantly metamorphozises
I remember when he made YouTube Poops, Spongebob ones, even.
0 likesi see you emp, changing the title and thumbnail after mentioning it in your video about thumbnails.
0 likeshope it works out for u xoxo
i literally had no idea that rusty cage has been in my life for over eight years through the knife game song
0 likes6:52 speaking about Disney and Mickey Mouse, i have to say something here, i'm from Paraguay, and in here we have a company of condiments and spices that's literally called Mickey that uses the face of Mickey Mouse, Disney of course took action, but lost several times, the company is still living to this day.
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Quien ganara:
1 likeUna compañía internacional multibillonaria o
Algunos chicos picantes?
Fucking legends
0 likesSend this in any way through other social media’s and other sources, this needs sto be heard
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Congress must know
0 likesThe frequent talk of corporatism, muddled edits of copyrighted content, looped video, and general mood of anger and fucked up. This would be a nightmare to watch on acid
0 likesSpoiler: patent systems don't work either and are mainly useful for big companies to sue each other for big money and keep legit competition from entering the market.
0 likesIf you're an inventor with a patent and someone infringes your patent, you have about 2/3 chances that the patent will not protect you, and you're sure to waste time and money.
I have not watched this video yet and I am predicting this video will be epic!
1 likeEdit. The video was awesome.
Remember that big corporations are causing most of these copyright woes, and also remember that youtube/google is one of those big corporations. We need to stop seeing youtube as an ally here.
0 likesI kinda feel bad for ol' Empy boy. It's almost as if this site has been torturing him in a dungeon for the past 12 years.
0 likesMeanwhile where i live you can literally open a retail store in a mall exclusively selling pirated content and no one would bat an eye
0 likesIt's therapeutic hearing him rant about how bad copyright has gotten
0 likesAnd that, my guys, is the very core of US' capitalism
1 like"When nothings public domain, ...everything is"
343 likesHEH HEH HEH HEH
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*click * nice!
7 likesI actually went to the description dropdown the moment that I saw that downward spiral solely because I thought that I'd find some sort of teespring sticker.
0 likesYouTube is a new media platform that wants old media money
2 likesHow would Disney songs that get remade be handled? Since the new Aladdin re used songs, does the copyright get extended on the song, or it's a new copyright that only applies to that particular version/performance in the new movie.
0 likesHope this isn't a stupid question, but I just had a thought.
Anyone else notice the downward spiral and YouTube’s copyright laws(And About all copyright laws) are very similar to 40k’s The Warp? It’s just utter chaos and ridiculousness
1 likeYesterday I uploaded a Private day video showcasing movie trailers (personal use), I clearly stated that I own NONE of the content used in the video nor the music used. I immediately got 26 copyright claims.
0 likesPoor YouTube, it did nothing wrong. The Almighty "I'll take your video down because feels like bulling" YouTube.
0 likesEmpLemon is now a nifty minimalist wallet salesman.
0 likesThis is wildly fascinating. Modern copyright and modern social activist groups share a lot of commonality, but they each strive to achieve the same results, just using opposite methods of each other, and neither of which are consistently critical of each other; it's almost as if they:
1 like--don't know of each other(pretty unlikely, but worth considering).
--have disguised their agendas to each other.
or
--have a mutual understanding or deal with each other(though i'll acknowledge that to label it as a deal lands this hypothesis firmly in the realm of conspiracy theories.).
Both social activist groups and copyright were started on the principles of: Equity, Equality, and Stability. But as the years became decades, each gradually became a disgusting parody of what they once represented, they each went so far as to become the very thing the founders of each of these ideas fought against; It always blows my fucking mind to smithereens how the irony was achieved on this grand of a scale...
When south park episodes slowly become more and more of an reality.
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2 likesJarl Balgruuf No u
0 likesWell, they're deliberately made to satirize current affairs, so that's a given.
0 likesMatt and trey where always right about everything we just never listened long enough to notice, let's not forget about nambla
1 likeSo when are we going to agree that the big corporations will one day be mere footnotes in our grand grand grand childrens history books, only two or three pages away from the lecture subjects about the cold war?
0 likesThey won't stay on top forever.
You know, it's funny. While I was watching Cartoon Network in 2016, I saw that Teen Titans Go had a birthday episode for Beast Boy, where he turns into a baby because the other Titans never celebrated his birthday. They try to get him back through another dimension and the first thing they had to do is to sing a birthday song. But when Cyborg began the song, Robin stopped him because he said the song was copyrighted. I thought it was a way to put in filler. But then, a month later, Regular Show had an episode on creating a new birthday song. I was skeptical at first and thought that they're filling in nothing for time, but when I found this video a year ago, I was shocked, disappointed, and filled with rage. And now I'm in a world where I don't have to draw anything that is free to use, and one day will be struck with copyright strikes. I bet that this problem effects everything else as well, like social media and the communities like the art community. So all I can say is, whoever says that they copyright their work and tell them to do not repost, use or anything else with it without permission and giving credit, suck my d*ck and go f*ck yourselves, because copyright law is a joke and I will fight any of you who will give me permission to take it down.
0 likesas a musician i think copyright law should Not Be That Intense
1 likeits stupid. if someone wants to use my music it shouldnt cost a fortune or get their art censored lol. if you like my work enough to cover or use it then hell yeah
Yeah so emplemon turned himself into the joker, I shit you not. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
3 likesdo your part and support artists by pirating everything and only giving money directly to artists without a corporate middle man
0 likesCopyright is automatic. You technically don't have to register it. The registration is only to have more easily presentable proof of ownership.
0 likesWhen re-watching this, I got the old spice add (the settler one). The add that started off with a phrase that has the word "curse" in it. And it was like this is the tale of a cruel curse or sum. SO IT WAS REALLY FUNNY AND FOR A MINUTE I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE VID XD
0 likesI'd just like to point out that the patent system is also currently broken, and has lead to, among other things, life-saving medication like Insulin being monopolized for decades on end.
0 likesI know its mostly for a comedic purpose, but the license provider for "entry of the gladiators" on YouTube IS the public domain...
1 likeI'm gonna say something blasphemous here (tbh I would love to agree wholeheartedly with the video, the death of public domain is scary). While I understand that the use of copyrighted content advances culture and art, doesn't creating totally new content at the same time promote, an advancement in culture and art? Well. Then again tiktok considers itself on the brink of trends...maybe im just missing something with the original statement.
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The fair copyright you're talking about which helps society in any way is not a reality.
2 likesWe could argue though about whether "fair" copyright has any use today knowing that if someone copy pasted someones work he would probably be cancelled into oblivion by the horde of angry fans of the original artist. The copy hurts most the original author when nobody knows it was a copy in the first place but now with internet it's easier to know who did what.
Emp should be the preacher of YouTube
1 like16:34
0 likes"YouTubers don't use copywrited content because they hate media companies and want them to lose money."
Well they fucking should!
I have a similar complaint about book copyright. I thought of creating an app using the text of an old essay. I thought the copyright of text expires after 50 years of the publication. But oh no, it was freaking 70 years after the author's death. Why does it have to be so long? Who benefits from it? 70 years after the author's death means that even the author's grandson is a very old guy who is about to die himself. I can understand that the author's child could earn money from his father's novel, but why do his grandchild or grand grandchild? In my opinion, maybe 30 years after the author's death is enough for copyright.
0 likes8:00 Add the novel Bambi to that list. I've been told it's a very interesting story to read.
2 likesSo I did what I do best. I took your little copyright system and turned it on itself.
0 likesHow to summarize the video
0 likesMedia corp: Hey! EmpLemon drank from a public fountain!
I claim the fact that he drank from a public fountain, even if i don't own any water company i drank from it one time, so i'm legally entitled to claim the entire fountain!
Whether you want to use “Why So Serious?” or “Call Me Joker” for a silly Joker meme opening, copyright will tell you “NO” and force you to use a stock rising violin
76 likes12:55 "Really don't mind if you sit this one out. Your words but a whisper; your deafness, a shout." Fits nicely.
0 likesYouTube copyright system: Guilty until proven innocent
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Even that's being too generous, because it implies an honest chance to prove your innocence. When claimants are judge, jury, and executioner, you're already deemed guilty regardless of proof.
0 likesWhy is it okay for visual artists to borrow so much of other great artwork but not for musical artists to borrow so much of other great music?
0 likeslike any youtube that talks about drugs (not showing consumption, only education) will tell you, it's not only the copyright system... youtube as a whole is working against many creators and many don't even see it as "broken"... and i think this too, it's totally working according to plan.
0 likesSomeone watched your stuff and asked you to personally run their ad in your voice. That's pretty amazing but funny enough Youtube seems to encourage personal deals rather than test what's "ad friendly"
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To be honest, I doubt they watched, they probaly say the subscribers number, regular views number, and thought: "Yeah, it's reasonable size channel" and tried to make a deal.
0 likes@【 Chilael 】 you still need to get the add approved.
0 likesWe live in a dystopia
5 likesWelp, that Toilet Paper comparison hits a bit too close to home now....
2 likescopyright also ruins game preservation.
0 likesMany games don't get GOG treatment, so without pirates - they would be gone.
at least winnie the pooh is finally free also does anyone know if its improved or worsened in this video?
3 likesEmp, This is good content and you present it in a unique and amazing way. I love your channel, and hope to continue watching your content
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hi wizard. we like fortnitteeee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!
0 likesSo when are we gonna destroy corporations?
2 likesWhat if you put a set of distinct tones at the start of every video and claimed the video with the claim system. Or is that against TOS?
0 likesThe word "revolution" never sounded so tantalizing.
1 likeas a musician, copyright is too much messed up
0 likesMe:*coughs like a character from a Disney movie in a big documentary video about the history of internet who got a lot of views and a big ad revenue* Disney: You moron! You made me rich!
0 likesTake note how this video only has 416,372 views. This implies that Youtube has demonetized the video and/or has censored it across the platform. This upsets me as this video has valuable insights and great suggestions in spite of being the "rant" video. Youtube, please come back and watch this video and take notes! What he's saying makes sense!
0 likesIf the copyright law is a joke, then the youtubers aren’t laughing
1 like"Youre watching an ad right now!"
0 likesSponsorblock immediately skips to the content
And like that, batman wins.
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please turn off sponsor block for this actually good creator
0 likes"Hah! Microsoft lackeys! So it has come to this! A night of blood I've long awaited. But be this my death or yours, free software will carry on! For a GNU dawn! For freedom!"
1 like-- Richard Stallman
Great points, well said
0 likesif you ever had the chance, Emp, would you become the CEO of YouTube?
0 likesRegarding characters falling into the public domain, trademark law is a huge problem nowadays. All the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs are in the public domain at this point, but the name "Tarzan" is still trademark protected.
0 likesThis video makes me feel like when I was making YTP, those were my punk days, and now my videos don't have any secondary sources so I'm just a stuffy nine-to-five office worker.
26 likesYou are a masterful creator
1 likeHella boomers are gonna leave this earth one day. That my friends, is when we will get to be the adults for a change
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Implying that we won’t end up in a similar situation, with a few millennials/gen Z/whoever’s next being groomed to accept things as they are now and perpetuate the current situation because it benefits them... I really hope that I’m just being pessimistic without justification here.
42 likesThe oligarchs who manipulated gullible boomers are already in charge, and will merely pass the torch to their ideological successors, it's not going to magically fix itself when boomers die.
27 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark But we could. After all, these oligarchs are small in number. And we are large in number.....
4 likescoronavirus: so this looks like a job for me
8 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark Nah, but ideology shifts over time as cracks appear in the system. Nothing is forever and more and more people such as my life are going to become aware and do everything in our power to ruin this system.
3 likes@Forest2YT Boomer Remover
1 likeYou want a quote? “There is no scarier feeling than to wake up one morning and realize that your high school class is running the country.” Kurt Vonnegut.
3 likesYou decry the boomer, but most “boomers” as we see them are actually Gen X’ers by this point. Pretty soon it will be Gen Y’s turn up on stage for the zoomers to decry them as the root of all evil, the barrier to real progress. History repeats itself, is what I’m trying to say. As the boomers once were to the Lost and Greatest generations, so are we now, and as the boomers are now, so shall we be.
funny times are coming, can't for this dumpster fire to burn itself into the ground
0 likesJust so we are all clear the patent system has very similar problems to the copyright system in the US. Look up patent trolls and evergreening.
0 likesA note about the end of the video, entry of the gladiators itself isn't copyrighted but the performance of it is. so you could just use a midi of it or something.
0 likesThe fact the emp lemon got a sponsorship is funny
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And he thought no-one would dare to sponsor him, HAH! Hey nice greater Dog profile pic.
3 likes13:35 That's not a really a good thing though. I mean it's not all bad at all but streaming services really have just wrecked small artists.
0 likesim happy to watch ads from you emp my friend
0 likesThat Ridge ad was like some Black Pearl stuff.
0 likes"You better start believing in ads Miss Turner... YOU'RE WATCHING ONE!"
I muted this video and left it on repeat in the background too boost it's views and you should too.
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Against the terms of service but respactable
7 likesI wouldn't be surprised at all if youtube actually detected that and didn't count your views.
0 likes@Punocchio youtube will still only count as one view
3 likes@Guvyyg Vuhh don't care
0 likes@honchoryanc watchtime would be insane though, helps with the algorithm
0 likesI tried that once. The view(s) didn't seem to stack.
0 likesEmp its honestly a new form of Censorship. The Modern day PMRC.
0 likesMan I don’t wish economic catastrophe on most companies but I wouldn’t bat an eye if Disney’s stock prices and profits took a massive plunge for a while
0 likesNintendo jumped down from copyright and the only thing you can’t do is upload music with nothing else. But they are actually really chill on that as well.
0 likesMy creativity is being stifled by not being allowed to freely use Luke Skywalker. Now I have to create my own characters and that just isn’t in the spirit of creativity.
1 like>YouTubers don't use copyrighted content because they hate media companies and want them to lose money
1 likeThey should.
If Copyright Law would be reformed, this platform would be worse off.
0 likesJust look what the EU Parlament thought to be a good addition to Copyright Law. Youtube would have straight up filter everything that you upload beforehand in order to comply with that law.
All IP laws serve only to protect corporations, this belief that they protect small artists is completly false. They were DESIGNED to do this. All IP laws should be abolished. (as well as the state)
0 likesIt was only a matter of time to hear the Seinfeld theme slowed down by 1200%, YouTube Copyright is definitely a joke.
0 likescopyright law feels like that scene in despicable me when GRU gets crushed by a door
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@Christopher Shafer huzzah a man of quality
5 likes@The Finnish Sniping Kirb bruh this is a comment about despicable me
0 likesTHATS HOW THE LAW WORKS
1 likeHope YouTube sees this. Especially around the 18 minute mark
1 likeCopyright law should be used to protect small creators not huge companies
0 likessomeone with solutions worth trying. nice
0 likeshello emp
24 likesgood to see youre still on an uncontrollable downward spiral
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hi folf. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeeee!!
0 likes@JOD dont you mean
0 likesf o r k k n i f e
I think the worst reason to keep copyright law at such long lengths yet the hardest reason to fight against is "they created it, why shouldnt they have the right to say who can and cant use elements from it"? It's a really shitty excuse, but fights for individual freedoms at the same time. They claim that having copyright law last only 28 years is BS because they seriously think that you have every right to rest on your laurels, yet whenever it is brought up that doing so inhibits creativity, the excuse is "well then be more creative and dont base your works on other works", which is also difficult as shit to argue against. Regardless, copyright law needs to be set back to how it was before these greedy companies lobbied congress.
2 likesYouTube won't be the number one video platform five to years from now. It will be a company hosted in some country in Africa.
0 likesUnfortunately, Copyright is in the U.S. Constitution, so we can't get rid of it altogether.
0 likesThey're trying to Copyright the Bible! I get Copyright notifications for trying to download Bible audio.
1 likeMusic: exists
71 likesSmart people: "I know, Ill STEAL it, AND NOONE WILL EVER KNOW "
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"It's free real estate."
5 likes@JOD go away
4 likesNeed a new platform asap!
0 likesNice to know that you’re a Florida guy. It took a while but I figured you went, or are going to, the University of Florida from the football stadium you shot your live action clown piece. One of my brother’s friends is a Florida fan. Then again, that makes sense because of how you also got footage from Daytona in your Dale Earnhardt video.
0 likesLook, it's a good video and all, certainly a much needed information dump for a very complicated topic, but I feel like you are making an excuse for youtube. I mean, yes the law is outdated by more than a decade, but youtubes execution of that Copyright, is really like you said the worst. I mean, in what way, can youtube excuse itself, when this Copyright Problem existed already so long and youtube has since then progressed next to nothing. In fact I am pretty sure it regressed and yet, Nobody thinks that maybe some Form of human Interaction at some Point would be helpful. Seriously, how can you fuck up so often in the same way and still Not be Out of the race?!
0 likesHow about those classic songs from centuries ago that are still copyrighted cause what is copyrighted is the execution of the song and not the song instead?
1 likei always thought that emp in emplemon meant electro magnetic pulse
1 likeWhat about real life copyright?!
2 likesI guess Walt disney is smiling in his kryotube that his movies are his for another 100 years.
Well probably longer if the extend the time period again. Such a bs.
Copyrights for "Happy Birthday to you" expired in EU 3 years ago but for Murrica it's still 10 years of waiting.
0 likesTo be fair, I'd rather be advertised something I might actually use other than the many other obnoxious ads I see.
0 likesAs an editor who doesn’t record his own footage or have rights to footage he does I feel dis
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hi ant. we like fortnittteee! we like fortniteeeee!!!
0 likesif all your subscribers gave you $1 on patreon, you would be a millionaire
1 likesource: i can't do math very well
I’m curious as to why YouTube plays ads before your videos. You’d then with how firmly against then you are they’d want to avoid you.
0 likesThe Happy Birthday thing was made fun of on an episode of Teen Titans Go, which is owned by Warner Bros. They know that there scumbags.
0 likesFaintly editing a movie clip is considered normal for a Youtube poop and the pooper will generally be credited as having transformed the work enough for it to be considered their own, if only by the standards of the pooper community.
0 likesIn the visual arts, the standards are much stricter. Originality is held so high as a virtue and is therefore at such a premium that even if every single last line is your own handiwork, you can still be labeled a plagiarist because you used the same framing and a similar pose to someone else's work.
Granted, this type of thing represent some of the most difficult work that goes into a sketch or painting, but it's still uncanny how the same image of a figure can be in a different art-style, have different lighting, different clothing, different anatomy, a different semantic and thematic message, different conceptual inspiration, so on and so on and so on -- but because one tiny facet of it is recognizably borrowed, usually the pose, it's completely disowned by the community as scumsucking plagiarist trash.
This is sometimes called "pose theft."
That's right. The gestures of the human body and camera angles are intellectual property that art nerds act as though they should be protected by copyright.
I don't really know what I mean or where I'm going with this, but I guess if I do have a point it's that the standards for what people will consider stealing are wildly inconsistent and can be taken to such an extreme that it stresses the credibility of a person owning an idea to it's breaking point.
Another great one emp.
0 likesbest example of artists imitating each other are the songs "under pressure" and "ice ice baby"
0 likes“It’s called Consolidation, Strengthens the Company & The Government, weakens the Individual.” -NSF Terrorist Leader from Deus Ex
0 likesIf you do a rearrangement of a song its completely fine. I have some on my channel and they are 100% legally owned by me, even tho their is some music from Zelda for example. (feel free to use them as u wish, crediting me would be great)
0 likesI agree with every point EmpLemon made, but the first 3 minutes of the video was pure cringe, so I can't hit that like button.
1 likeI have standards, people.
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So, you're neutral?
0 likesLooks like he didn't SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON AND HIT THE BELL FOR NOTIFI-
0 likesthey cant sue all of us. And if they do then boogaloo. What happened to all those anti monopoly laws
0 likesI wasn't sure what you meant by characters like Lule Skywalker entering public domain.
0 likesI mean, I want people to be free to include him and Star Wars stories in their games without problems
But wouldn't want people to be able to change/add stuff to the original story just because a license expired.
Using the characters, sure, should be 100% legal (but like in a videogame, and not stealing the characters just to retell the same story your way and sell it as a separate product. That's just unfair)
I wouldn't want people to be able to sell their versions of my stories as their own, separate product, or worse, as an official extension of my product. Or as any extension of my product for that matter.
They can make fangames or something, but trying to compete with my stories, using MY OWN CHARACTERS would be just insulting to the artists
In that way the copyright law is protecting the artists.
But as an independent creator and a Star Wars fan I would love to be able to share my own games featuring Star Wars characters without the fear of being sued or them being deleted from appStore.
They are in no way a copy or trying to compete with the original.
It's all fair, yet the law knows no distinction.
You can't use them, fuck you
So in that sense I do agree that Luke Skywalker and other pop culture characters should be able to be used by the fans, but with some limits.
Also, perhaps people shouldn't be able to make entire businesses built on selling T-Shirts with Star Wars characters for example. That's just unfair I think. It's stealing someone's designs and mass producing them.
Idk, I feel like it's a hard problem to solve.
I feel like projects with genuine passion and an intent to innovate, should be allowed to take whatever they want to use whatever they may need.
But who's gonna control that? And who's it going to be profitable for?
Woah, a real example of corporate greed and not just virtue signaling bullshit
0 likesEven if public Domain isn't broken, there would still be a massive Problem.
0 likesLike with entry of the Gladiators the original is public Domain, but if someone rewrites it, or performs it, it would be copyrighted again. So companies could just rerelease an edited song after some time and still make tons of Money.
oh emp not the hero we deserve but the hero we need...
0 likesEnough is ENOUGH!!
0 likesI HAVE HAAAAAAAD IT!
Thx to the Son(n)y (Pro-)Bonno act, the length of copyright reminds me of Weekend at Bernie's but instead of propping up dead Bernie, it's whoever the artist is 🤔
0 likesI hate to play devil's advocate but the reason Youtube doesn't have manual reviewers for copyright disputes isn't because they can't or don't want to hire people. It's because the only other option is for every single dispute to go to court.
114 likesIf Youtube said "no this is not copyrighted material" they could and (let's be real here, we're talking about record companies) would be taken to court. Not youtubers, Youtube itself would be sued since it actively took part in the copyright dispute. And that would apply to every single copyright dispute.
Don't get me wrong, Youtube fucks things up constantly but, just this once, it's not actually their fault.
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They just need a employee who can help them and knows how to do it right.
2 likesEmp lemon has explained that before in the viacom sues youtube video. Youtube makes their system as confusing as possible so that if they ARE sued for copyright, then they can claim ignorance that they didnt know copyrighted material was uploaded to the site (or something like that). Semantics are a bitch lol
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1 likeThen YouTube should require anyone want to claim a video to file actual DMCA in court
2 likesWhile that's correct, as long as Youtube sticks to the law considering fair use, what can possibly go wrong?
0 likesWe need the Soviet union
1 likeWithout starvation and a crumbling economy
It's almost like the logical progression of capitalism is bad for the artist or something. But idk I'm just a YouTube commenter.
2 likesimagine getting copyright claimed by yourself by using downward spiral
0 likesIt's almost like private property isn't a real thing...
0 likesAnd that the accumulation of capital is destroying art and societies...
What the heck are we supposed to do then? It feels like something should be happening. I'm wringing my hands because I don't know what to do with them.
0 likesSay what you want Emp, Mumkey will still always be funnier than you
0 likes8:25 it’s Henry behind the wall from Thomas the tank engine, the photo is from “The sad story of Henry” which I think is season 1
3 likesI guess Papa John was warning us of Youtube New Copyright system.
0 likes>copyright law
18 likes>reasonable
Some people should really look up how ridiculous it is...
14:48 Foreshadowing to the copyright claim of the wabbit season parody being claimed by Warner bros
2 likescopyright is instant money for these companies
0 likesmental note: dont eat any food during a emplemon video
0 likesI love the fact that you have incorporated Jethro Tull in to your video. ;)
0 likesEmplemon is the last and best voice speaking reason in a world of swirling confusion on YouTube.
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Jim Sterling is pretty cool. The 2 of them seem to agree on a lot of issues despite different political leanings. If only the 2 of them could work together. They'd be, invincible.
1 likeI find it funny how this is one of your only videos that didn't perform very well. Coincidence?
1 likeI've been watching your content for a while and I finally say this with complete confidence. I have no fucking idea what in the fuck I'm watching XD
0 likesEDIT: Funny you should use the Tank Man image, considering Tank Man wasn't hurt by the tanks whereas I can't say the same about "Random dude on Youtube"
The reason YouTube doesn’t do the appeals is because then they are getting involved, and then they lose safe harbor. They are just respecting who ever said it is theirs last.
0 likesI agree everything you say emplemon
0 likesThe funniest joke in the video was implying that a law that doesn't work for the general public will be changed eventually just because time has passed and the people in the position to do something about are the right age to have been hindered by the law in the past. As if corporate interests wouldn't have stayed the same, or as if the new elected officials would be guaranteed to put their own values over corporate interests, or as if people with the stronger moral convictions are likelier to be elected just because of demographic changes.
17 likesHilarious.
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We truly do live in a society
1 likeWon't YouTubers learn that everyone skips the ad part of the video.
0 likesFacts after facts after facts sampling any form of media should be legally allowed I get copyright claims on a bunch of music bc it remixes other material/ samples it
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@dampo is dj deadhorses Trolled
0 likesHuman greed. Enough said.
0 likesNever thought I’d see you in joker makeup.
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Goop Videos I kind of like it
0 likesHey! You did the despicable me YTP like 4 years ago. Good one bro.
0 likesThis is what you get when you live in a society that has reached the bottom of the spiral.
5 likesHappy Birthday was published in 1893, and things become public domain after 50+ years.
1 likeGod i love your videos, and they aren't the same without some good ol copyrighted music, please move to linus tech tips YouTube thingy
0 likeswhat we need is media to be made en masse, free for individuals to use, but hard blocked from companies
0 likesFriendly reminder of
2 likesWe live in a society
this video is perfect timing, im currently trying to make a low budget movie and im going through the process to find music for my movie and it is ridiculously absurd, take for instance, the public domain was frozen for 20 years preventing any media past 1922 from being released, in 2019 it was unfrozen but with some wierd rule that everything was public domain EXCEPT audio recordings... its awful how we let this happen
0 likesI feel like the only way the copyright can get better is if one executive came in and said, "can we have a word?" Or even crazier, if one copyright juggernaut had a lawsuit war with another copyright juggernaut, that results in no winners from either side and instead, the congress decides that enough is enough and removes all the crap.
0 likesBut I guess I'm too much of an optimistic idealist to even think it'll happen.
As a 17 year old I didn’t even know the public domain was a thing
1 likeEmp is a smart man
0 likesIn advance, your vidos are great content and would have 5m subs if you would hack the algorythm like all the big ones. but u have honor i guess
0 likesI find it funny how rusty cage is complaining about his music being stolen, when he literally stole Mumkey Jones song and took credit for it
0 likesPretty sure the Happy Birthday song has been public domain since 2018.
0 likesCopyright does need a massive rework.
1 likeAlso in the news. Keemstarrrr-brushed his teeth yesterday.
Fun fact about Cypress Hill, they (or rather one member) are responsible for one of the most infamous verse bites in rap history. Like... In their biggest song one dude literally just stole another guy's whole ass verse. The original voice even said something along the lines of "I am [original rapper's name]" and the CH guy just left it in. I find it extremely ironic how they are so active with protecting their copyright (they've even taken a guy to court over an ad lib) in light of that.
0 likesdisney doesn't even own their stories.. that's rly messed up
1 likeWeird. The intro of Cypress Hill's "Make a Move" put a quiet background white noise over the Pulp Fiction audio. I assumed they did that to avoid copyright
0 likesCopyright law is worthless, IP law needs to be repealed.
0 likesWow, an Emplemon upload in less than 3 months. It's a Christmas Miracle!
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0 likesJODisHere 🤬
0 likespeople who used old media are the people who attempt to run new media, smh my head
0 likes"Turbo-boomers" is my new favourite word.
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their health problems are extra fast
0 likesI'll say it again; my worst fear is built around this policy. Although admittedly more on the "when will we run out of names?" paradox.
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Dilbert made fun of that in June 2nd, 2010.
0 likesThe last few names left will be reminiscent of a certain part of the body, names of accused war criminals, and funnier nicknames for partnerless loving
I like your video but if what you say at 18:01 happened ppl would just upload clips with massive amounts of dead time at the end of them to skew the percentage in their favor
0 likesWait a sec, a song BEFORE THE FIRST WORLD WAR is STILL COPYRIGHTED?
1 likeEmperor Lemon going to the Gator stadiam while dressing up as the joker is one thing I didn't think I would see today..
0 likesGood video. Copyright law stinky.
0 likesWhen the memes I make get reposted in other discord servers, I dont barge in and say "HEY! that's MY mEME!"
0 likesI feel happy that my memes are good enough to be repost worthy. Repost it all. Repost it everywhere.
8:15 It's on the level that I see piracy as something that's actually helpful to the creator. There are creators that say "It can be helpful" but those creators are generally the ones who either believe in old copyright law of expiring after 20 years, flat out don't care about their content anymore (which they will have likely thrown it into public domain), or just ran out of fucks to give.
14 likesYou're absolutely right. Piracy is less harmful than the restrictions imposed by copyright. One pretty good (I won't say "great" because these two only partially go hand in hand) example that I'm a part of is the homebrew community of consoles. Sure a good chunk of homebrewers uses the system for piracy and free games, but there's a group of the population that uses the capability to provide the public with something they want but can't get, for instance, perfect rips of music from a videogame. Being able to dump a game cartridge for your switch and get the music and other assets out is gonna make a lot more people happy than the restrictions are. People often appreciate the music and its writing, and I know some people that buy the entire game because of the music or other assets. The copyright holders ought to be paying us at that point, but nope, we're just a bunch of dirty freeloaders who hurt them.
EmpLemon's fell off the deep end, damn! XD
0 likesit took me half of the video to figure out the song playing was apart of "Thick as a Brick" good choice as always
0 likes"I-Its not a bout sending a message its about the money"
0 likes- EmpJoker 20somethingiforgot
This video is so big brained i need to watch it again, not now, later, i need to process what just happened first.
0 likesThe happy birthday song was published 20 years after the Franco Prussian War, and 30 years after the American civil war, about 20 years before the first world war.
0 likesRemember when Disney tried to copyright a traditional Mexican holiday? Good times..
0 likesimagine have 1000 patrons and crying about copyright claim, because you can not take all the money
0 likeswe just waiting for exclusive merch and FOMO toys
your videos are great btw xD
One insanely popular character from that era that has managed to finally escape the time freeze is Sherlock Holmes. That is how Warner Bros could have the 2009 Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. and BBC could have the 2010 Sherlock TV show with Benedict Cumberbatch and CBS could have still another TV show Elementary in 2012. Despite all this, there are still a few last stories Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote before dying in 1930 that were published in Strand AFTER 1923, and the Conan Doyle Estate still AGGRESSIVELY protects ANYTHING that comes even close to portraying Holmes doing anything he does in those last stories.
0 likesDid you know that a copy right holder said they'd be willing to sew children on ROBLOX over copy right
0 likes20:08
5 likesUnfortunately, marge dooting the song will get you claimed as well, allbeit falsely, still...
Thats not how this works. That isn’t how any of this works!
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Turok, not the dinosaur hunter, the adult film star Great I need to MDI Everything now
0 likesWe truly live in a society.
0 likesComing to this after the Pollyanna Earthbound animation got taken down makes this all the more painful.
0 likesSolution: torrent all of the media that any of these media companies produce.
0 likesI'm surprised that the fuckers at WMG, UMG, EMI, etc., haven't bothered with lobbying the US Congress with amending the extent of copyright to "in perpetuity". Bcoz it might as well be with the current copyright system.
0 likesYou know what heavy metal does not have to do what rap does.
0 likesHow would singing a song be in violation of copyright, as it pertains to the birthday song analogy? You can sing whatever song you want on your birthday and not be in violation of copyright, unless you record, publish, and monetize it. Warped perspective much?
0 likesmost informative and entertaining outube pp/ better get used to opressio, dont worry youve been biead in it allready for the betterment of society.
1 likePatrick Meme: Why don't media companies find these people posting clips and compilations and PAY THEM to compile them for their media?
0 likesThat prevents piracy while giving the people what they want and it promotes the show/movie!
11:17 happy birthday the most recognised song in the english language
5 likesThe alphabet: Am i a joke to you?
the joker memes are getting a little heavy handed but eh, the video is still great
0 likesshame it's "illegal" and wont earn any revenue
Complaining is what I watch you for, ever since Behind The Meme (who claims he's coming back soon?) so please never stop
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Actually I watch everything you upload, let me shut up
1 like@James Higgins Nah, don't shut up. Fans like you are a blessing.
0 likesJames Higgins Most of us here have our reasons. Mine is the complaining and memes.
1 likeThey go hand in hand
$10 for a CD? Hahahahaha! Someone's never been in F.Y.E.
1 likevery nice elaboration good sir! did not know that public domain died. people are still talking about it, as if it was a thing...
0 likesYour video are for sure not boring. You do great
0 likes"Science generally costs the capitalist nothing, but it by no means prevents him from exploiting it."
0 likes- Karl Marx, Das Kapital
I guess EmpLemon’s sense of humor is going in a...
26 likesDownward Spiral
I think this channel is about to get big and triple subscribers before the year ends.
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And I love your channel, and you make so many good points.
0 likesBut every company like YouTube has at least 50 people who also make good points.
Will you do an updated video on this in a couple years? Mark ur calendar lmao
3 likesAt least some people create music without copyright, like Kevin Macleod
0 likesAnyone have a list of the tracks that were on the Downward Spiral playlist so I can go pirate them myself?
1 likeRemoved for harassment against corporations who won't even see this.
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Oh we'll give them harassment! They want a battle, we'll give them a war!
5 likesI like how the beginning sounds so creepy but its seinfeld theme slowed down by 1200%
0 likesI liked copyright better when it was 28 years.
1 likeThe use of Jethro Tull is distracting, I love it and it turns out the fact I recognize it makes it's really hard to focus on the video.
0 likesjust wait for them to start claiming people for there voice because thats too close to the copyrighted 10 000 year old caveman chants
0 likesEntry of the Gladiators
36 likesremember... this was supposed to be the Italian national anthem... Look at the damn joke it is now.
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hi ash. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeee!
0 likes@JOD oh I see, it's some stream stuff...
2 likesHow self-aware.
That's godamn hilarious if true.
0 likesIMO it should be 50 years. No more, no less.
0 likesi wish the sugestions in this video were real, on youtube
1 likeCopyright should be an opt in process. If you file a copyright yourself you are subject to everyone elses copyright, but if you have no copyrights you are free to use all copyright material.
1 likethere is literally no justification for copyright sorry.
0 likesI FUCKING LOVE THE USE OF THICK AS A BRICK
0 likesTheres a reason the big corporations increased copyright time and not small people.
0 likes1/3 of Congress owns a foreign passport, and they're all to the same country.
1 like18:15 but then all YouTube will be filled with 10 hours clips of black void with 20 minutes of entire Simpson episode somewhere in it.
1 likeI'm not saying it's a bad idea, because it helps decent creators but it won't fix the main reason why this copyrighted laws are in the site in the first place.
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As he said, copyright law will take a while to be fixed.
0 likesHi emplemon, i enjoy your videos a lot, been with you since 2016! Love you man, keep doing you.
3 likesCrediting things would be the ideal. Credit everything.
0 likesLots of solid after effects, Sorel would be proud
0 likesMusicians: Can I have money plz?
0 likesCopywrite: Yea ok sure thats cool
Musicians: Yay th-
Cooperations: *MY MONEY*
Musicians: But I ma-
Cooperations. *DID I FUCKING STUTTER THIS IS MY MONEY*
I couldn't stop laughing for like 15 minutes after the fucking Joker Rick part.
0 likesAnd the wise men all know how it feels, to be thick as a brick.
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Toot
3 likesToot
Too-too-roo-roo-too
When will EmpLemon become the new CEO of youtube?
0 likesThat pic of Spotify is either old or Spotify fucked up. They claim that the 2015 Prodigy album "The Day is My Enemy" is new.
2 likesI still go to the record store to pay for songs…
0 likeswtf this channel is amazing
3 likesthis is one of the many reasons why living after 2015 is a big nono
0 likesDid Anthony Fantano hold you captive? Those ridge wallets are taking everything over.
0 likes11:10 is this why I haven't heard that fucking awful song in recent years? I think I aught to do a rare thank you to big corporations for taking faux happy birthday songs out of the public ... everything.
0 likesYou know as a persion that study’s human behavior and economics I can say this. Pepole have said to me “hey we need this and that regulateion” and I have pointed out that there are many goverment regulations out there that hurt smaller bisnuses and indepandant createors and help bigger ones. and the ironic part is that big bisnus likes these regulateions. I don’t hate regulateions cuz I like big bisnus it’s becuse I care about small bisnuses and independent createors. Persionaly I think the market should compeat fairly and freely
0 likesI don’t know your video reminds me of that
Copyright laws are bourgeois protectionism.
0 likesI feel like someone or some company would copyright the English language so we would all have to use something like Mandarin or Russian.
0 likesEven more reason to hate big corporations
0 likesJust need to start a revolution and throw all the unfair copie right clams into the Boston harbor
0 likesdamn thing is, I legit want a Ridge wallet now
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And that's why Ridge pays emplemon the big bucks.
0 likesI want my complementary downward spiral when I buy one
0 likesIf YouTube allowed us to license music from the music owners I would want Fear Factory to play in my videos I wouldn't mind paying fifty bucks a year for the privilege of playing any song I want in the background of my videos
0 likesHonestly, saying "if everyone's super, no one will be" is a negative statement despite the truth in it.
0 likesin some way it's like saying if everyone was kind, then no one would be...which isn't true
I'm talking about a quote from the incredibles idk if this is going to make sense to anyone
Ironically I’m pretty sure both of those supreme hats are bootleg
0 likeswas expecting crab rave to copyright the video but I'm surprised
0 likesIf YouTube classified itself as "radio" it could legally pay the flat fee yearly.
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Good idea in theory - but even it they wanted to and tried it, no way the FTC would ever agree to that xD
2 likesexcept they show video
0 likes"Who's really laughing now? Not us ,Emp, not us."
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He wasn't implying that tho
0 likes.... I was following you. Up until the rhino shit. Now its all I can think of. The horror.
0 likes*replays it 10 more times.
this will probably never change
0 likesYay someone who agrees with my view on copyright
0 likes"Geriatric turbo-boomer" someones been watching twitch.tv/moistcr1tikal
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hi fighter. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!!!!
4 likes@JOD stop spamming
6 likesYou MONSTER. How DARE you mention a music that is copyrighted. The cops are approaching rapidly AS. WE. SPEAK.
1 likeIf Disney extended for the 5thtime I'd would just say:
1 likeNope.
HAMMER
Court is ajurned.
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They did it like a few months ago or something like that.
0 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark Haha Nice.
0 likes@Nemmy I mean Disney getting it extended, not a judge blocking it. Not so nice unfortunately.
0 likes@DrewPicklesTheDark Bruh.
0 likes15:25 that government priority list has aged well, Trump isn't even in office and he is still their biggest concern.
0 likesi love these videos.
0 likesI am enjoying this train ride down YouTube’s downward spiral, keep up the good vids emp.
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hi Lucky. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!
0 likes@JOD What is your deal dude? Are you gonna reply with that on every comment here?
0 likeshuh, so emp and crusty rusty are from gainesville
24 likesneat
2:41
1 likeEmp: IT'S A DOWNWARD SPIRAL!
Mumkey: DOWNWARD SPIRAL! DOWNWARD SPIRAL! DOWNWARD SPIRAL! DOWNWARD SPIRAL! DOWNWARD SPIRAL!
Emplemon: how about another joke, YouTube ?
0 likesI'm a simple man.
0 likesEvery time I see the Joker,
I simply click faster than the speed of light.
The “Happy Birthday” Melody was made in 1893? That’s 6 years before Red Dead Redemption 2 Story ffs
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If Arthur Morgan's birthday was celebrated I wonder if they would sing that
2 likesIts not only on YouTube, its just the whole copyright law is one big joke.
0 likesfirst in my band we play the hey song, i hear it being mic spammed in games, and now its in your background music
0 likesYouTube doesn't exist to give the content creators money. it exists to give the advertisers eyeballs
0 likesI have noticed pewds using the downward spiral in a recent video and I thought of you, Emp. really cool stuff
0 likesI used to think I was living in a video essay.
5 likesTurns out, I'm living in a YouTube Poop.
If anything ruins any form of media; its Corporatization of said media
0 likesAmazing job
0 likes2:40
54 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL |
DOWNWARD SPIRAL |
DOWNWARD SPIRAL |
DOWNWARD SPIRAL \/
Well you got me convinced at least
0 likesAccording to copyright law, if the original sheet music for a song is over 100 years old, that song is in the public domain and anyone trying to copyright a performance of it does so illegally. Good luck trying to get a court to hear that case though.
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Nope, you can still copyright a recording of a public domain song, because hiring orchestras takes money, and your version might be a little different from the original.
0 likesThis is why we should boycott this BS!
0 likesHave you seen TheOriginalAce's video on using youtube copyright system against itself? its good
1 likeWho's here after governors might not give Disney another extension to their mickey mouse copyright.
3 likesPlebs really out here complaint about EmpLemon's content? Send them to the gulag
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hi Danny. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!!
1 likeYou seem to be a t'au player aren't you?
0 likes@Zenlarrus Hiro nah
0 likesSeeCharp Well... Rome was a dictatorship at times.
0 likesThis is the most correct video on this website.
0 likesHappy Birthday To You IS public domain though. You even showed an article stating that.
0 likesCopyright will end the world.
0 likesAt 9:41, I immediately recognized that picture of the Scout from TF2 as an old Star_ video thumbnail. Specifically, "TF2: What is This Game?"
1 likeWell, comedy is tragedy plus time..
0 likesEven Mark Twain has a quote about how copyright law is a joke.
0 likesWhen emplemon Open his mouth and smiled As a dentist he Has a good Oral hygiene Also I think Is teeth is less yellows but Is not white enough The only two Thinks Concern me
1 like1. the Color of the gingiva or gum is more pink is Supposed to be red I think there is A few areas in the oral cavity The blood can not reach it by the Capillaries
2.🦷 Hhhhhhhhhhaaaaahhhaaa his upper lateral incisors not In place it like rested lingualy l Iooked to left lateral incisors I notify Something that the labial aspect It's not Compatible with another teeth that make the Rest of the teeth visible and Higher then lateral incisors
It is so weird randomly seeing your college in a video XD Go Gata!
1 like5:44 I freakin’ love the picture of the Publix coke.
1 likeIntelectual property doesn't exist.
0 likesCopyright laws were never about protecting small creators.
Intelectual property doesn't fit the definition of property as it's not scarce.
Intellectual property is the same as monopoly but it's more convenient so no one dares to talk shit about
Ngl, I normally hate ad reads, but I genuinely enjoyed that
0 likesIt's all about 💰
0 likesEmpLemon: In what other system you get punished despite you following all the rules?
46 likesMe: In the Soviet Union under Stalin.
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hi priv. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeee!
1 likeIn Soviet Union, you no follow rule...rule follows YOU!
5 likes😂😂😂😂
We should have allowed youtube heroes
0 likesYou should do a Youtube Geographic on Smike
2 likesI get its a problem, but what in the hell can we as individuals do about it?
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@The Conductor Esplin when I got this message on my phone I swear to God I thought you were about to bring up Raid shadow legends.
2 likes@Neurolucky
2 likeshey you wanna play raid shadow legends?
But no seriously someone has to step up to YouTube and be as Brave as the shooter
I couldn't be more serious about anything in my life
There's a new method of copyright smuggling, but it requires some funds. Check ymfah
0 likesLove the ending
1 likeI guess you could say he... Empathized with Arthur Fleck.
0 likesProud to see the Emp is a Gator *dabs in swamp people"
0 likesI'm fed up with these Copyright Cocktail Weenies.
0 likesI find it it interesting that, as much as I hate and aggressively block advertising, you've actually managed to suggest to me something I might want.
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Good job you, aggressively blocking advertising. That's very noble of you. ...no sarcasm that is actually good of you and never let anyone tell you otherwise.
0 likes18:01 tha idea is actually genius
3 likesThis is "Copyright: Forever Less One Day's" more specific younger brother.
0 likesSo um any upcoming youtube geographics or never evers? I kinda thought you'd be doing more of those
1 likeI don't know, it would be weird for Micky Mouse to be in public domain. Shouldn't there be an exception of content consistently in use?
0 likesI don't have notifications turned on, I'm just incredibly lucky.
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hello mike. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
0 likesLemon for senator
3 likesWe live in a CONTENT SOCIETY
0 likesNot just on YouTube, but also on MuseScore and in general.
0 likesJust a statement emp
0 likesHappy birthday went into public domain in 2016 it good to use
But kevin mac leod is ok and his music is publicly available. Then again, because he is kinda the only artist of that kind, everyone has heard all of his songs at least a thousand time already, making it seem unoriginal to use his music.
1 likeThis video needs more attention, stupid copyright laws are a huge problem. How has no big or powerful person ever even noticed this?
0 likes"Emp Residence, bottom of the downward spiral."
1 likeSo you're homeless?
You need to make pt. 4, about communist movies/music, cuz they public domain and corporations in post-communist countries don't wanna have nothing to do with this era (in Cold War) and also I think you ignore the fact, that non-English Speaking countries exist (for example: LatinAutors copystriked Vinesauce Vinny for playing Final Fantasy music, only because they made covers of FF music).
1 likeI really want the full version of that Crab Rave Remix.
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If you read the description, you'd see the pastebin link with all the songs in it. Here's the one you're looking for. https://youtu.be/b-q1yeosVA0
1 like@MsCup Thanks my dude.
1 like15:45 I will try to become a fucking politician then. Though I live in backyard Finland where the corporations do not exist, Finland is still part of EU and EU has more people live in it than in USA, so more people can potentially be helped here. It is greatly unlikely that I will become a politician, But I'll try to get something done regardless.
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Honestly having more people with that attitude will lend more politicians support for stuff like that.
0 likes$100 a yr to use whatever i want?
0 likes"shut up and take my money"
This video is a fucking bomb! I LOVE IT! WHY ISN'T ANYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS WATCHING THIS?!
0 likesMan imagine copyrighting history books
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I don't see the issue with that. You aren't copyrighting the history itself, but the specific media of which explains said history in some way.
1 likeIt like copyrighting say, an essay or historical film. Same shit.
Please continue being cringe.
0 likesPlease continue being an outsider Emp.
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2 likesI thought the knife game was called 5 finger filet?
1 like2:48 I literally can't take Joker Rick seriously, LMFAO I'M DYING.
0 likesIt is actually evil that some turd chomping chlamydia snorters are controlling and profiting off of music and content someone made generations ago and have passed away... GENERATIONS AGO. If I passed, I wouldn't want some big corporation to own my shit, I want my things to be in public domain, so others can use my works for their own enjoyment, and breed new creative ideas, and art forms
0 likesdislike count before youtube hid it all: 442
3 likesYour majesty, thank you for existing.
0 likesThis world was always a mess.
0 likesI saw a 5 hour compilation of all the Mario songs get copyright strikes for playboi carti and something else.
0 likesI also recommend the video "Understanding Fair Use and Online Media - RTX 2016 ", Adam from YourMovieSucks gives a talk for an hour about fair use and copyright in general and also on YouTube.
3 likesBless you, youtube poop guy.
0 likesAnother excellent video
0 likesI used the "curb your meme" song and it got copyright claimed even though I don't make money off of it, youtube is a joke.
0 likesbe honest... who copyrighted this video
1 likeGod bless you man
0 likesWhat's the video used at 14:00? I'm pretty sure the audio from it was also used in "YOUTUBE MACHINE BROKE"
1 likeLol and whaddya know, this very video has been monetized, probably due to a copyright claim...
0 likes0:51 that Matt lowne drop!
0 likesEmp lemon plays kerbal?
Please bring back YTGEO and minute memes
1 like1. Culture always builds on the past.
6 likes2. The past always tries to control the future.
3. Our future is becoming less free.
4. To build free societies you must limit the control of the past.
— Brett Gaylor
15:53 If thats true, and every 21 years or so a new year gets into the public domain, that means that in the year 3467 shrek will be released in the public domain.
0 likesHas bell icon turned on. (Which I don't exactly do for all of my subscriptions btw, so as not to get too flooded by notifications)
1 likeDid not get notified of this upload via notification or email in any way, was not in recommend, only noticed in the subscriptions feed.
Screw off YouTube, I haven't even watched this yet and I already know that you know you're about to get majorly roasted yet again.
*Sees title*
41 likesIT'S TORRENT TIME
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hi vall. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
1 likeYOU ARE A PIRATE!
0 likes@Caio Soares YO HO YO HO
0 likesDisney copyright claimed my final project for film.
0 likesSoon we're gonna get copyright claimed for playing Hurrian Hymn No. 6
0 likestbh we live in the 1984 of copyright law
0 likeshe's finally lost it
0 likesWhy'd you have to upload this right as my lunch break ends?
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hi craig. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortniteee!
1 likeI can relate.
0 likesMy dude needs to buy x-mas presents I see you
0 likesAnd I garuntee these companies wonder why nobody likes them.
1 likeI think it’s funny that Paul McCartney him fucking self said that he couldn’t give less of a shit if someone used his music in a video. Hell he even said he doesn’t care if you pirate his music
1 likeI’m not very educated on the subject, but doesn’t fair-use protect against copy-write and isn’t fair-use by definition using copyrighted content with the extent of verbal commentary and research purposes and doesn’t all of your videos fall under that definition. How do you still get copyrighted if you are using copyrighted content under fair-use?
0 likesYo, I'm over here taking a shit in the stall and there's this guy in the clown makeup dancing.
9 likesI am now a enemy to the state because of Happy birthday
1 likeI'm gonna go outside and sing happy birthday with the boys 😈😈😈😈
1 likeTalk about The Original Ace's strategy of per-emptive self-striking.
0 likesHoly... HE HAS ADS ON THE VIDEO?! IS IT HIS ADS OR THE CLAIMANTS ADS? FIND OUT NEXT WEEK ON YOUTUBE IS A COPYRIGHT JOKE!
0 likesIs it time for You tubers to now create content for you tubers to use for free or little money like music and clips?
0 likes3:45 I'd buy this on a shirt
0 likesIdk why anyone would buy a ridge wallet? A hundred dollars for two pieces of plastic and an elastic band assembled by children in China. %98 of the cost is going to have your regular influencer sell it to you.
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Btw you aren’t saving any space. Try putting that hard piece of shit in your back pocket and sitting down. You are only adding to the things that have to be in your front pocket.
0 likesThe United States Marine Band's rendition of Entrance of the Gladiators is in the public domain btw.
0 likesI've never wanted a ridge wallet more in my life
7 likesgod i hate capitalism
2 likes19:45
1 likeI thought my PC froze here. Yikes that scared me.
> Thick as a Brick starts playing
0 likes> Only 8min 30sec left in the video
We're gonna have a problem
Copyright law is fucking irrelevant the original limit was stuff would go into the public domain after 50 years, the idea was that someone could make something, live long enough to profit off of that said thing, book, song, artwork, whatever, and when they die, it will go into public domain so someone ELSE can make their own version of that thing and profit off of it, then it goes into public domain again. etc etc. problem is companies like Warner Brothers and Disney lobbied congress to extend the free domain law to 100 years so they could continue to profit off said media. I am all for re-writing the copyright laws so that its fair to everyone. it hurts content creators, independant artists, journalists, and everyone down the line. yes, it was indeed extended so companies could profit off of it...it's pure greed!
1 likeDisney stole my ridge wallet-EmpLemon
0 likesi got two ads on this video, i’ll take that as a win i guess 😭
0 likesAnother issue with governing copyright law is just how easy content is to make today just about anyone can learn to produce content
0 likesbut i do hate companies and want them to lose money
1 likeIt almost seems like it's a racket between lawyers and the rights holders...
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We used to bust up rackets in America. Maybe it's time we go back to tradition....
4 likesI like to think this whole video was to rip on that single viiewer comment at 12:45 LMAO
2 likesIs shitting on youtube the new way to get ad revenue?
0 likesI’VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU, PATRICK!
0 likesTurbo boomer is my favorite phrase now
1 likeImagine not being allowed to celebrate becoming older. - This post was made by Anti-Copyright Gang.
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Can I join that gang?
1 likeMusic copyright is so powerful that Sony killed Michael Jackson to get his half of Sony Music and those copyrighted music...
0 likesrly liked ur approach on this
1 likeTbf Lil Nas's song Carry On did almost nothing to differentiate itself from the original song. Otherwise I pretty much agree with you on music sampling (in my opinion, being complete bullshit). The song "Tricky" (I think that's the title) by Run DMC was sued in 2006 by The Knacks for literally sampling .2 seconds of "My Sharona". The water gets muddy when you basically speed up an Imogen Heap song and call it Drum&Bass but there are plenty of songs that are nitpicked to shit because they're using the same melodic contour or same note sequence
0 likesMore than 280 corporate clowns hate this video
0 likesRemoving Content Cop was the last straw.
6 likesthat rusty cage theme song remix was fucking sick
0 likescan we all agree tah emp is a TICCCCCCCCC BOI
0 likesdoes disliking this video count as a protest for youtube
0 likesDude... You mean to tell me you have been at UF all this time... And I am now finding this out AFTER I just graduated???
0 likesThe whole three minute intro is a YouTube fever dream
14 likesthose killer clowns from back then must have been a message
0 likesA form of capitalism that was sold to us as ostensibly libertarian has morphed into a grotesque rentier capitalism, where actual productivity struggles to make money, and where the real money and power accumulates to those who don't produce but simply sell access to something that they own - copyright holders in media, patent holders in the pharmaceutical industry, land/property owners in the housing industry.
1 likeYou presumably don't have time to read your comments, but if you do, please examine the following works: Postcapitalism by Paul Mason for how copyrights and patents are holding back the economy and maintaining monopolies, Neoliberalism by David Harvey as a guide to how an economic ideology that was implemented (in part or as a whole) was bastardized to redistribute wealth and power to the wealthy and powerful, and The Corruption of Capitalism by Guy Standing for the exposure of the lie of 'free markets'.
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I may add that all three of these writers have plenty of talks uploaded to YT, and in the cases of Mason and Standing, talks specifically about the books that I mentioned.
0 likesDo we boycott disney?
1 likeYou wanna know how I got this shadow banned youtube channel?
1 like"For my whole life, I didn't know if I even really existed. But I do, and people are starting to notice."
72 likes~ Arthur Fleck (The Joker)
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hi Friend. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortniteee!
1 like@JOD
5 likesDude stop is annoying.
@Juaneste No this is Jod's thing
1 like@Hatster Well yes, but is annoying for both Emp and the other content creators on the site, and the suscribers of them.
5 likesAnd also, the comment doesn't help the situation Emp is presenting in the video, it could even be considering as spam and a bad way to promote his channel.
applying to UF just to meet emplemon
0 likesI see that Wish You Were Here album cover
0 likesEdit: And I hear that Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick lol
Disney: I used the public domain to destroy the public domain
0 likesUse LBRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only supporting the change will make the small bigger! Spread the word! Spread the word of creators soon being able to monetize their work on their own! Spread the word of decentralised Content sharing!
0 likesI couldn't have said it better myself
0 likesWelp, time to roll up to the FTC in an M1A1 Abrams
0 likesUnrelated to this video but: could you do a never ever on the Beatles?
0 likesGreat video.
1 likeI love Thick as a Brick, one of my favorites
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hello Dlar. we like fortniiteeee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!!
0 likesI was so happy that he used this song, fucking masterpiece
0 likesWhere may I purchase a downward spiral since you still have them?
0 likesHere before this video taken down for "Harassing" a big corporation
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Harrassment is justified!
0 likesWatch it with the mud farmer microagressions, buddy
1 likePatents are just as bad. Things like Insulin are still under patent protection despite it being ages old and being relatively cheap to manufacture.
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Also, every time the patent gets close to expiring, they change their formulation ever so slightly to maintain patent control. While these older formulations do enter the public domain, that doesn't help much when theirs basically three companies in all of the U.S. that produce nearly all the available Insulin and don't want to bother with the stuff they no longer get royalties for. It's even worse with insulin pens, pumps, and other equipment. Out of all the health issues and increased risks that come from being a Type 1 Diabetic, having to pay these people money because my only other alternative is death angers and frustrates me more than any of them.
3 likesEverything is burning, and the ones pushing people into the blaze started the fire in the first place.
7 likesYoutube: Send In The Clowns
1 likeHahah I love the Jethro Tull remixing
0 likesTom Scott must like your videos Emp
0 likes1:49-1:51
2 likesI spit out my water when I heard “yes”
Emp has gone full joker.
0 likes7:49, that photo aged like milk
0 likessolution: Sue WMG Back for Stupidity
0 likesThe copyright rule is a negative in essence. No human being should be given the right to own information.
0 likesHoly fucking shit is Emp ascended 15:06
1 likecorporate capitalism moment
0 likesJust finished Code Geass and really starting about taking over the world
0 likesAnd I thought Joe Rogan loved his hallucinogens
0 likes5:42 Yeah funny thing is the coca cola recipe isnt patented, its just a very well kept secret that changes every once in a while
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hi Mc. we like fortnitteee! we like fortniteeee!!
0 likesHey emp, if you ever need a copyright free singer, im your man B)
0 likesIf youtube has not let anyone get money rightfully I am not letting anyone get money. Use a AD blocker.
0 likesthis is why i pirate everything
0 likesBest one so far
0 likesI LOVE that ad, lol
0 likesyou have given me one hell of an idea..that will take forever..but unless someone beats me to it...well 2026 probably better youtube
0 likesemp sounds like he smokes a 12 pack of 12 packs of cigarettes a day
0 likesHow tf WMG copyright doesn't let me use Iron Maiden in my videos but CCDC allows Coldplay to steal from Joe Satriani ?!
0 likesThis video could persuade congress, assuming they didn't forget to turn their hearing aids are on.
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Make this is a known one
0 likessubscribed for the prog references
1 like10:36 Disney owns that rhinoceorus. You are about to have your wallet sucked so dry that you'll be able to trick arabs that they can drill for oil in it once Ol' Mickey is done with you.
1 likeSings happy birthday for my birthday
0 likesGreedy people: NO
More YTP please... please...
0 likesThe circus song is copyrighted? Ok, that's too much irony for me
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Nope, it's public domain, but recordings of public domain songs can still be copyrighted.
1 likeTHEY CANT STOP US FROM DOO'DING THE CLOWN SONG IN COMMENTS
1 likeFrom Wikipedia:
0 likes"Both the lyrics and the music [of happy birthday] are public domain."
You really need to put at least 10 seconds of research into a video like this.
Over all I really liked the editing and visuals, and I agree with the main point. It's just really disappointing to see you spreading misinformation.
Not an expert on the topic so let me know if there is something I missed.
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@Nerdy Alien That's fair but Warner music had to pay back $14 million to the people that they had taken money from. Over all the story seems like a (rare) example of the copyright system actually working, even if it did take a long time. Anyway my point wasn't that the copyright system isn't fucked, it is that emp needs to actually research this kinda thing before putting it in a video.
0 likesBest sponsored video on the sight
0 likesi kept getting distracted by the instrumental "thick as a brick" in the background
3 likesTHIS VIDEO IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!
2 likesDamn rip Will Caine lmao
0 likesEmplemon goes thicco mode
0 likes13:43 That new releases tab just makes me sad thinking about The Prodigy. Thanks Emp.
9 likesI just wish that the zombies of congress would stop pandering to trillion dollar megacorps.
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based
0 likesI like listening to you complain
0 likesJust noticed Logan Paul at the public lynchings, Great little detail. I like it.
1 likeDownward Spiral gets copyright clammed
0 likeswasnt someone setting up a you tube union and strike?
0 likesThick As A Brick playing in the background. Fuckin awesome.
0 likes12:38 Sadly I can only Like this Video once :( but hahaha thats great
1 likeIT'S NEVER OVER
0 likesWhat do you think of Tom Scott's copyright video?
2 likesIt's not a Joke.
1 likeIt's a money maker for IP holder's. And no one else..
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Any by IO Holder I DON'T MEANT HE ARTIST
1 likeCame back here after the Quantum TV bullshit.
2 likeswell shit this video doesnt have any claims, neat
0 likes'im not the monster, im just ahead of the curve'
0 likesHey so im 18 now... Lobbying is what made copyright stupid, so maybe it can undo this... right? So... What can i do? i can vote right? Is there anything i can do to try and get copyright laws changed?
1 like3:47 or is it perhaps an AUTISTIC pallet?
1 likeI’ll see myself out.
Emp explains the gun debate
0 likesWe need progressive era 2: copyright busting edition
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Agreed.
0 likesThat is not going to happen
0 likesdjmars1983 oh yeah its never gonna happen
0 likes@Drew H Not with that attitude!
0 likesbest trilogy since the original star wars
0 likesi think that the first image from the "1893" segment is from the X-Files episode with people getting skinned
0 likesHey, corporations are people too. Citizens United, peeps.
0 likesKropotkin said that patents and all this copyright stuff just doesn't make any sense. in 1982.
0 likesYou used the wrong characters to represent rich CEOs. The merchant you used to represent a greedy Leafy was better. That ALSO explains why youtube is often more biased towards the corporation, because Susan W is a merchant-ess.
0 likesthis entire thing is 1 hour 8 minutes and 20 seconds long
1 likeAre you going to make another episode of "Never Ever", I really liked it.
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Probably
0 likesyoutube def hid this from me lmao
1 likeEmp just wanted to say the Birthday song was made public domain in 2016
0 likesThis is the only in video ad I can stand
0 likesWait, was that a face reveal?
1 likeDood... you destroyed that commenter. Hecc yeah~
0 likesAlso, Tom's Scott's propositions are nice too
This is probably the worst of the 3 videos you've made on this. You spent the first half of this video bitching about copyright law then said the same things you've expressed in the last two videos while adding solutions to YouTube's copyright system. To start, your issues isn't with the law. It's with YouTube. You complaining about the law makes it sound like you can't make a nonsensical youtube poop video, so you're gonna cry about it. While yes, under law that video would be "transformative" and fall under fair use, that doesn't mean the law is the problem. And even then, not all youtube poops fall under that as many don't do anything "transformative".
0 likesAs a creator myself, I want to curate my work while I'm alive, which the law allows. After my death, that only last for a certain about of time. While we can debate the length of time after death that the work gets to be copyrighted, the fact is that copyright does protect creators.
While many people like to compare this to patents, I think the issue is much more different. Patents completely restrict the work of any other creator or company to make a similar product for a limited time until the patent is released. Meaning, the holder of the patent can profit off of his invention before competition makes their own products allowing the market to decide the success of each product and promote growth and better products and lower prices for consumers. This is not comparable to music, or movies, or art. You can recreate a song very similarly to other songs but you can't re-release the same song in the exact same structure. And no I'm not talking about covers. I'm talking about the same 4 cord verse-chorus-verse-chorus musical structure that fills the top 40.
In conclusion, copyright law is a mess, but the solution isn't to lower copyright to 20 years then it's public domain. That approach completely undermines the artist. The solution to your personal issue is to get YouTube to fix how they handle copyright. Your solutions seem fair to me.
Also, the birthday song has been public domain since 2016. It makes your whiny rant harder to listen to when you don't even do proper research. Same thing with not giving proper estimates to how long copyright law last. It may seem indefinite but it's not. Fact is, a lot of the media you want to use in your videos are still very young works and are subject to copyright. Just because standards of how youtubers handle using content between youtubers are different, doesn't mean everyone has to abide by those standards.
my boy did you just say "in these trying times" before quarentine!? My god you can see into the future!!!!
0 likesThe clown song are claimed by some arsehole DJ that just messing around with FL Studio for 30 minutes
0 likesawesome video lol love the clown makeup
1 likeMa man, just being here, and criticizing capitalism. Ma boi.
0 likesPlot twist Marge making the sounds from entry of the gladiators gets copyright strikes by disney.
0 likesNo copyright law in the universe is gonna stop me!
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You do not own that pokemon, im taking your money
0 likesIf you ever get monetization on your uploads, my name is the music companies, you underestimate my power.
0 likesHow the hell did they let you into the Swamp
0 likesSorry but I cringe hard when notorious ytp creator says “culture and art”
0 likesRusty cage claims emps whole video
0 likesif you think this is injust, you live in usa. imagine live in latin america, no one care of us. not even the youtube official account care of us
0 likesThis is the type o' shit that makes people believe there is no god.
2 likesCan you keep cash in the wallet?
0 likes3:30
0 likesI wonder who emplemon’s neighbours are
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He lives in a circus tent
3 likesLove this
0 likesI mean on the one hand I just hear a guy yelling at the man for having more money than him and rEsTrIcTiNg My CrEaTiViTy. On the other I think its definitely right that copyright laws are old and havnt caught up to the blazing fast speed of the internet yet. And on the third hand I dont really care because this whole deal hasnt taken money or time out of my pocket.
0 likesHighly illegal. Do not attempt. 😂😂😂
0 likesYou just said that patents protect small artists. Don't they tend to run them out of business with how expensive they are to arrange?
0 likesWell at least copyright can’t get any wor-
3 likesCOPPA: allow us to introduce ourselves
Wow Jethro tull? Respect man. Bring back the classics
0 likesImagine still following the ((((((((((law)))))))))))) in 2019
13 likesPolice help he stole all my furniture
0 likesWhy did he
Because he made the nails
Well nail maker did you steal it
No
Well he said no sorry
Yeah make copyright like patents copyrighting now costs 60.000 dollars 💵
0 likesHe's gone rogue
0 likesDanm.. now my life savings are taken away because of that one time turned nine...
0 likesLast time I was this early, the Downward Spiral was just beginning
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It's only just begun!
5 likeshola Section. We like fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
2 likesFuck you were here when this universe was born? What was it even like?
0 likesJODisHere ok seriously stiap
1 likeAviation Dude 95 he’s a doing a livestream where he comments that for 10 hours lmao
0 likesNo, it has been always turning since the world is burning...
0 likesAyyy
0 likesWhat's your profile picture from?
You're making it seem like the public is entitled to freely use, and in turn profit, off of characters in media and the media itself. Everything else in the video I agreed with, but the likeness of Mickey Mouse is owned by Disney. That's their character, not yours.
0 likesNot gonna lie, this is probably your only video i cringed at.
0 likesYouTube/Radio Demon: HAH! NO!
0 likesPart 4 feat. COPPA?
1 likeNothing will become better until our generation makes the laws in 40 years
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don't vote for boomers. period.
0 likesso right now we are in a creative prohabition
0 likesNext: video that contains nothing is copyrighted
0 likesWho else noticed the Devil’s millhopper?
0 likesI think we've finally found Mexican Joker.
1 likeI didn't see anyone else saying this but happy birthday to you isn't copyrighted anymore thanks to a lawsuit in 2016
0 likesIdubbbz next Content Cop should be on Youtube ITSELF!!!
0 likesOr atleast a Content Cop on Susan 'Whatchamacallit'.
Technocracy (mrenter series) is God to my soul
0 likesLong live ZUN.
0 likes7:42 Fuckin Logan Paul in the lynching audience. Savage, brilliant.
1 likeI tihnk Tom Scott did a better video on this topic but this is another look at the issue and it's quite good as well.
0 likes🤣<(It's not about the money!) 😆<( Good one.)👍 🤑<(Yeah good $1)
0 likesI wonder when emp will finally collapse and go on a homicidal-suicidal rampage
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Pedro Seba soon, very soon
0 likes10/10 editing
0 likesCreate original song and upload to CDbaby
0 likesPlay song in video
YouTube ID claims your song on top of the BS ones
Still earn some dosh along with greedy labels
Emp is 100% correct. Intellectual property is not real property. Ideas (PATTERNS of bits) are not objects, and can't be owned.
0 likes13:08 a wildly unexpected Jethro Tull appears
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Less go another Jethro Tull fan.
0 likesPart 4?
0 likesCan't believe you recommended a video by the guy who made Cool Cat lmao
0 likes7:39 that aged...um...yikes.
1 likeits weird to think you have a chance to influence future law makers and higher ups in the world with this video in the next 10 years
1 likefilmed on location in Gainesville Florida 😂 takes me back to my college days
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hello zar. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!
0 likesHaven’t even seen this until now, and I’m sure I went though my sub box past 2 days ago, I could be wrong and just didn’t notice or something
0 likeswell, to be honest the rap/hip hop genre is shit anyways
0 likesI can’t wait until the note of C becomes public domain by 2034.
0 likesThe happy birthday song is in the public domain
0 likesWait, he's at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Florida. The home of the University of Florida Gators football team.
1 likeOF COURSE! HE'S FROM FLORIDA! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
I miss content cop dude
0 likesthis is the best ad ever
0 likesAnyone who wants to blame this on capitalism, its cronyism not capitalism that caused these problems. This would not happen in a completely free system.
0 likesThat ad the most entertaining ad I’ve ever seen.
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hi Jaw. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeee!!!!
0 likesBetter then internet historians.
0 likesEmplemon takes down video
0 likesbecause Emplemon copyright claimed it
Not gonna lie I got the sponge bob movie, Shrek 1 and some episodes of Ed Edd N, Eddy on my pc all from people who just decided to post it.
0 likesWho's here after the ChilledCow copyright lofi hip-hop incident?
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What happened
0 likesDid this video get copyright claimed?
0 likesI swear Emp uses the best background music
8 likes126 years fucking old... YOU'RE SHITTING ME
2 likes14:34 Why did you put a blank image of a road on this part? kinda weird.
0 likesThe Idea of intellectual property itself is contradictory. While private property exists because of scarcity, ideas are not scarce therefore it would be contradictory to claim to be the sole controller of an idea
0 likes7:42 i noticed what u did there XD
0 likesI really didn't need that visual of a Rhino Dumping
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Once you ger married you will get used to it
0 likesWatch this series In reverse order
0 likesthe photoshop of logan in that lynching pic LMAOOOO
0 likesGeriatric Turbo Boomers, i'm fucking crying
1 likeDid you just did a face reveal??? If that was you then that's cool
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brycepitts01 he already did a face reveal,go see SOTY live podcast.
27 likeshi bryce. We Liiike Fortniteeee! We Like Fortnite!!!!
6 likesi am also like fortnite
2 likesWell, it wasn't really a face reveal, since he was in "Joker makeup" mode the whole time. However, he occasionally did appear on camera before, but mostly remained a mystery as most YouTube poopers do
4 likes@Big stank I might have to check that out thanks
1 like@JOD haha I love that meme and the video game
2 likesbrycepitts01 I’ve known what he looks like for a loooong time
1 likeJust search Aaron Lemos on YouTube. You didn't know about this?
0 likes@Markee thanks for the link and I see this face in real life in the video
1 likeBut emp. I hate media companies and want them to lose money
0 likesmans used like an entire jethro tull album in theback ground of a vid ab copyright law 💀💀
0 likesMuch true. Yes smart. Society.
0 likesBring in the clowns!
0 likesWhat are you doing in the peter griffin household 3:31
1 likeWhat's next copyrighting a single note
0 likesYoutube is not forced to act like they do. They are just not willing to respect fair use.
0 likesMe: hi
0 likesYouTube: copyright
I guess a different kind of internet is now emerging
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Like hell it will we are the internet they'll ban us off it and end the internet before they can change it
1 like@Science Mage That is the different kind of internet. We CANNOT be caged! We CANNOT be controlled! These corporations will come to understand this as they die! The ever pathetic ever fools!
0 likesHoly shit I hate copyright
1 likeLet me introduce you to the crowd pulse. Or the pulse of the public. The pattern of the emotions of the masses through the subconscious crowd ignition content.
0 likesAssalamu aleikum.
Remember the devil is weak
Make this shit viral
2 likesnext time add honey with red food coloring. it made your video more ADs prof
0 likesEmpLemon still undefeated, never lost a round.
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The invincible Emperor lemon.
0 likes16:00-16:17
2 likesCovid regulations in a nutshell
i was abouta say damn
0 likesEmp got a lil chunky in the begining lol
Wait this isn’t joker 2019 free hd online 1080p (check in desc).
4 likesITS A DOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likes7:40 for some reason i didnt think anything of it at first but uh, yep, thats logan paul.
1 likeSo in short.
1 likeWe're fucked.
Please bro, my ears. From quiet to ear rape many times :(
0 likesAnyone else notice the Macho Man glasses
0 likesif you want a presidential candidate who wants to do something about copyright law maybe look into Andrew Yang, other than that were in a downward spiral
0 likesis it me or you got the voice of chills kinda
0 likesi was so not ready for that rhino shitting
0 likesAight but i didn't need to see a rhino taking a dump. That shit's nasty.
0 likesYeah, I wonder why we even bother anymore, sometimes.
10 likesGreat vid
0 likesIf only Susan watched till the end
0 likesI'm not a racist, that's simply untrue. (Though I will say not a big fan of the blues)
0 likesCan I get the outro music?
0 likes(Rusty cage background music remix)
dude your vids are great but fuck me normalise your audio levels for this kind of video. just bring your voice volume up to the standard
0 likesWait was that emp in a clown costume
0 likesMY B R A N D
0 likesDidn’t expect to see that again
i want to create a system called "public domain" because that does not exist
0 likesyou make the best video
0 likesHippity hoppity let's go steal Disney's intellectual property
0 likesWhy are your videos so LONG? I wanna sleep.
0 likesWas that filmed at Devil's Millhopper?
0 likesso basically: find a way to make people into stone so that the world falls apart and nature blooms
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His ideals are sounding better and better.
2 likesDoctor_stone.mp4
2 likeshuh, does this mean when normies take over we should just set shit on fire?
1 likeCopyright Spiral
0 likesThat's cool but when are you going to make frying dory?
4 likesMerry Christmas emp
0 likesFun fact this didnt go into my sub box
0 likes18:03 Pirates would then upload a full episode of a show followed by 10 hours of black screen hahaha.
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Easily fixed by implementing a new rule; If a video is longer than an hour you multiply the copyrighted segment by how many times longer than an hour the video is. As a result, normal videos get charged like 0.1% of their revenue still, but pirates will need to pay the full 100% for an hours worth of stolen content.
2 likesI'll release a film with nothing but black screen then claim that 10hrs.
8 likesEz lambo.
That's not how it works, though. I doubt the pirates would be stupid enough to monetize it.
0 likesYouTube already collects information about attention retention over the span of a video, and this already factors into ad revenue afaik. In this utopian world where copyright claimants can only get revenue for the portion of a video they truly own, the ratio of claimed segment vs video length could easily have the total of attention retaining segments substituted in for the raw video length.
5 likesEdit: This attention retention data collection is likely why videos marked as "For Kids" can't be played in the minimized window. Instead of cutting off the data collection, those geniuses gimped their own video player.
Can't wait til 2193 when Entry of the Gladiators becomes public domain
0 likesget out of your hole in 2017 it is 2020 and coppa is the new biggest threat to youtube
0 likesWhat happened to fair use
0 likesa three parter? oh baby
0 likesThank you
0 likesgreat vid btw
0 likesDoes anyone know what the 8bit music is called that plays at the ad that plays
0 likesBut what about Chad Warden?
0 likesWhat a fantastic face reveal, JokerEmp.
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hello lexi. we like fortniteeee!!!!!!!!
1 like@JOD cool story.
0 likesI didn’t know the Joker showed up at my Uni.
0 likesCan we make a change.org to change copyright laws? Maybe a little protest?
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Petitions do nothing.
1 likecongrats! pewds san recognizes you!
0 likes2:36
0 likesHave my children
GAMERS RISE UP
0 likesI'm sorry, but saying copyright law is a joke, implies that it's harmless.
0 likesBeter Kropotkin - the conquest of family guy funny moments
0 likesThis never reached my subscription box :(
0 likesI see YouTube put this under Entertainment. Wonder why...
3 likesAns it's going to be worse in less than two years
0 likesLet's all go to Nebula! Guys? Guys? Nevermind...
0 likesCOPYRIGHT ..... IS COPY WRONG!!
0 likesThis is why I make street art
0 likesI'm sorry, I couldn't hear you, is that really how the law works?
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hello Azure. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!
0 likes"THAT'S HOW THE LAW WORKS!!"
2 likesOh I get it it's a joker referance
0 likesThanks doc
0 likesyo emp with how obsessed you are with spirals, watch gurren lagann
0 likes16:32 no no thats why i do it
0 likesBro you don't follow the rules. I hate copyright law probably more than the next guy, but if you're using any copyrighted material without permission you're opening yourself up for copyright claims. If you use only original creative content these problems won't happen, but you'll have to spend a lot more time and energy creating
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The point of this video is that it doesn't matter. And he doesn't really care about money he's said a couple times. And on YouTube, it's pretty hard to be totally original lol, in human art it's pretty hard to be totally original. All art is derivative, and that's what the public domain is for. I mean, I respect your trying to get along without breaking the rules, but these laws don't fit the modern world. They have never fit the world, and they only serve greedy corporate pigs.
0 likesHow the fuck do get permission on some of this shit
0 likesI swear youtube is getting worse and worse
0 likesJoker emps personality is basically Rusty Cage
0 likeshere is the big brain move make a song play it your video copyright yourself
0 likesAye, Lemon, wanna grab a drink soon?
0 likes12:33 the best momment
0 likesgrammar
Rules for thee but not for me.
0 likesMake this have 1 mil views
1 like7:42
0 likesGenius, LMFAO
EmpLemon teeth reveal 😳
0 likesTime to move to Armenia, where no copyright laws exist.
0 likesI wonder if this got copyright claimed
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Probably yes.
0 likesThe joker references are getting out of control.
4 likesI can’t afford licensing fees so I should get to use copyrighted stuff for freeeee :,(
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Copyright was never supposed to last forever you know
0 likes14:31 Dude, why'd you just label an empty road like that? It doesn't show anything smh fml imo
3 likesHow can I become a mud farmer?
0 likeswhy don't you go to congress about this?
0 likesThe end of the video would be interrupted with a Fortnite commercial
0 likesGeriatric Turbo Boomers.
2 likesVid has too many earrape moments jesus
0 likesMove to Vlare PimpLemon!
0 likesYou in here at the start sounding like Dr Downvote from Nerd City
0 likeswhyd you have to put that rhino shitting..... i was eating a sandwich dude i can never unsee that
0 likes10:36 dude I’m trying to eat
0 likesThe intro unironically made me deaf
1 like5:30 Amazon Basics
3 likesYou used a clip from my channel at 5:37 I thought it was good but I'm going to have to claim your video TY
0 likes12:35 - wErE AbAnDoNed bY gOd!
0 likesEmplemon face reveal?
0 likesBruh EMP is from gator country. How'd you enjoy the swamp?
0 likesThAt'S hOw ThE lAw WoRkS
0 likesRest In peace happy birthday song
0 likespewdiepie used downward spiral and credited you
0 likesMy birthday is tomorrow, looks like I’m gonna go to jail.
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butterdog445 Happy Birthday :D
4 likesThanks!
3 likes@Captain Blackjack Tell us what you get.
1 like@Captain Blackjack Happy birthday! It's mine as well
2 likesHappy Birthday
2 likesThe good news is that the Happy Birthday song was recently released from copyright when someone proved there was an earlier existing version. The bad news is that any of this ever happened.
2 likesLardBucket Happy Birthday to you as well !!!
0 likesWhoa the Pink Floyd hammers tho
0 likes7:41
0 likesToday was a good day
Let the words spread gamers😃😃😃😃😃
0 likesHappy birthday is in public domain now
0 likesTom scott made a video abt this aswell
0 likesi'd like that jodishere guy to reply to me as well, pls.
1 likeGood to know
0 likesCalling rap a music genre is stunning and brave
0 likesGoogle stop ruining people’s fun please :(
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Google would prefer if you followed their every command
1 likeI refuse :D
2 likesChina: "LOL"
0 likesdo the people who manage youtube watch youtube?
0 likesHey I recognize that Seinfeld slowed song at the beginning! Copystriked. /s
0 likeswhere is the clown version of rusty cages background music??
0 likesJoker emp looks like Tommy Wiseau
0 likes3:31 it’s Pittsburgh Dad
2 likes#KopywrongSupremacyPower
0 likes#communismPower
#WarsawPack
never got notified and i got the bell icon on
0 likesWhy aren't we all saying we live in a society
0 likes12:06 why was my first thought
0 likesSIA
?!?
XD
never will i ever hope so see a rhino sht again
0 likesah at least the joker picture isnt copyright OH SHIT Warner Music Company has copyrighted this video thx for money
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Pin or ill copyright your metagame videos
0 likes3:35 Are you using sothe's hair from fire emblem heroes???
0 likestHat'S HoW THe laW WorKs
0 likes7:04 what is this clip from?
0 likes7:39 Well actually...
1 like2:41 downward spiral.......Downward spiral.....Downward Spiral.....DoWnWaRd Spiral..... DoWnWaRd SpIrAl.... DOWNWARD SpIrAl.... DOWNWARD SPIRAl.................
0 likesWaiting for the coppa law is a joke
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COPPA is wack, and did not succeed to making every content that’s for kids “for kids”. There are still some Mario Party videos that still allows commenting, which would be a burden to COPPA. And that’s only one example.
0 likesI HEARD THE THICK AS A BRICK SONG IN THE BACKGROUND OMGG
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PROG ROCK FOR LIFE EMPLEMON 🤜
0 likesGo destroy the rege wallit
0 likes9:42 I see you keep using that STAR_ Thumbnail as a reaction image lul.
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Peterscraps Ayy Peterscraps I love your videos :)
0 likesPlease do a meme review for comic sans.
0 likesjethro tull! good taste
0 likesymfahs video youtube copyright is genius
0 likesWe have achieved peak downward spiral
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Not yet, we can still dig further below, we haven't passed the obsidian and bedrock yet. At some point we reach the Void and then we reach the ultimate end.
0 likesThis is the only channel I’m early to
5 likesLove the content emp
Amazing
0 likesGets ad for Warner Bros
0 likesOmg omg LMFAO lol ROFL wtf loooooo WOW!!!
0 likesUltra epic video!
...Let's not... b l o w ... this out of proportion...
0 likes“ThAts HoW ThE LaW WoRkS!”
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hi hippo. We like fortnite! We like fortnite!!!!!!!
0 likesJODisHere we like fortnite!
0 likesyou sound like melvin, melvin, brother of the joker
1 like10:36 was that really nessery
0 likesLet’s get Kanye West to help
0 likesyour joker voice kinda sounds like crypto from destroy all humans
0 likesThe soviet anthem is copyrighted
5 likesThe soviet anthem Is copyrighted
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c t --- Hey, atleast Russian Anthem isn't, dispute being remake of USSR anthem.
1 likecan i offer you a nice egg in this trying time?
0 likescapitalism ;)
3 likesIsn’t that mumkeys song?😂
0 likesGood content me likey
0 likes20:06 CLOWNS!
0 likesI got an ad with like 3 seconds left
0 likesno sponsor money for you i use sponsor skipper
0 likes9:41 STAR_!
2 likesSo no ytp?
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesThank you emp. The content you post has always been so insightful and I appreciate all the work you put it.
1 likeA great script as usual. Serious topic, serious discussion. Love the effort!
1 likeEmp, I just wanted to say thank you for this very informative and extremely well put together series. I know it alone probably won't change anything regarding this site's disregard towards content creators, but hopefully it will at least create some waves in the community. Please keep up your amazing work, sir
0 likesThis made me consider that YouTube music is a thing and that means they have a deal with the music industry already on some level.
2 likesSame for all the TV and movies you can buy now on the site.
Why is it still such that ALL the monies from a video go to whomever files a copyright claim for however much or little content is infringed?
A great way to find usable music are small undiscovered artists! You can go to places like Newgrounds where most of the music is licensed under Creative Commons licenses (Most artists will be pretty lenient on use). And you can actually search for most recent submissions, which means music most people have probably never heard of, making your videos more unique instead of bland and generic. More people need to hear about this!
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Jatmoz --- I'm suprised than there's so many ways to avoid copyright claims, but EmpLemon SOMEHOW ignores half of them.
0 likesthank you for this series, copyright is really one of the most severe problems of youtube, and I'm glad you flavor your rant with arguments and actually good solutions
0 likesVery fair arguments for reasoning of both sides EmpLemon! I am a composer myself and often I have seen the argument on youtube that Pirating is the answer over copyright, but as you say in the beginning the idea of it excists for a reason. Otherwise it would be just copyright wild west like in China and no innovation would happen. However, it is taken over by the corporations as we speak. Man, what if Disney had to actually invent new things!
2 likesAmazing series Emp. Top shelf work in all three episodes.
0 likesThis video is so good. It’s very informative, and I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in it. I would readily share it if I had anyone to share it with.
0 likesThis was an extremely good series. Good on you dude
0 likesCopyright has been one of the largest issues for, well, longer than I've known about any other issue. I have been wanting to say the following for a while: Whichever politician who does the most for copyright reform will get my vote, regardless of party. I'm planning to make a tweet of this mentioning every politician I can, so maybe it can get at least some representation.
0 likesman your editing got so much better. love your content emp.
1 likeI'm a musician so I'm 100% in favor of streaming services (including YouTube) benefitting the artist... so long as the YouTuber in question ISN'T following Fair Use guidelines by any stretch of the imagination. This shit really shouldn't be this complicated.
0 likesHoly crap dude. This is a good video. Really sheds some light on the greed of big companies.
0 likesCan I just say that I fucking love these longer form videos. The wait may be longer but the payoff is definitely worth it
0 likesEnding the series with thought provocking facts and thick as a brick in the soundtrack when talking about copyright infrigment is golden. please don't leave the platform mr. Lemon we still need you ❤️
0 likesYoutube needs to adapt to the internet or the internet will adopt a new website that isn't total shit.
0 likesContent creators should all pitch together to make an alternative to youtube. Even I as a viewer are more than willing to help out with this
Glad i was able to watch this video before it is inevitably and unfairly taken down
0 likesthe long term Youtube community at large can easily boycott and find a new website, the problem is getting everyone on the same page , and not overwhelming the servers of whatever website. a YouTube exodus would be a perfect way to end this decade.
0 likesI can’t wait until the day where Apple figured out a way to claim every single song with a sample from Logic Pro, the digital audio workstation that they bought.
0 likesLiterally just got done with a class this semester about copyright , patents, and other general US laws that surround it.
1 likeMy teacher is for copyright and such but dose think its pretty messed up (hes a boomer).
Though what i learned from that class was that copyright is tricky because yes it dose favor these massive corporations though if we were to get rid of it all together or change a lot of it it would FUCK over many small creators as well.
There is no good answer to copy right law at the moment until (as EmpLemon said) we get new people in the government who understand it, though even then I doubt it will be fixed at all.
I think that you should put your suggestions for overhauling YouTube's Copyright policies in a separate video or document so that it can be easily accessed. That way if YouTube executives, by some miracle, were to decide to actually do something about the system they could refer to your great ideas.
0 likesBeware. No law in the history of man has ever stopped anyone from doing anything, that doesn't make those law pointless. That being said, current copyright laws ARE unreasonable!
0 likesBeware. No law in the history of man has ever stopped anyone from doing anything, that doesn't make those law pointless. That being said, current copyright laws ARE unreasonable!
0 likesOne day, every possible arrangement of sounds imaginable will be illegal copyright.
0 likesIt's honestly sort of depressing that in order for any actual legislative change regarding the internet to happen we literally have to wait for almost an entire generation to die out so their political seats can be replaced by more internet-savvy people.
0 likesKeep fighting the fight emp. Never give in. Never give up.
0 likesthanks! i'll never feel bad about pirating movies again!
0 likesMonstercat Gold is similar to what you've mentioned... $5/month and you get to download all songs and use like 90% of all releases from Monstercat on your videos without claim. (There's a list of releases that you can't use with the license, mainly because it involves other parties than Monstercat)
0 likesToo bad YouTube has the video streaming platform by the balls, no competition creates shitty products
1 likeHere’s a good rule, how about after the creator of an artwork dies of old age it goes into the public domain regardless if it was made after 1920-23. Copyright laws have been manipulated to benefit music and media companies decades after the work was already made and everybody who worked on it have moved on already.
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That's the law..... PLUS the 70 years
0 likesThe law is 15 years behind the rest of the world, and that's when there 𝘪𝘴𝘯'𝘵 aggressive lobbying to stomp out the terror that is the prevalence of online independent artists.
0 likesThis is so ridiculous that honestly it wouldn't surprise me if it changes before 2030, some people will get to power and will realize the common sense benefit of using common sense... Besides remembering all the cases of prohibition.
0 likesStay strong Emp, your work is inspiring and amazing
All copyright and intellectual property laws are absurd. It's pretty much threatening people that aren't doing anything wrong. Intellectual property in and of itself is absurd, since ideas are infinite and therefore you can't say they're property. It's a monopoly, one that you are forced to obey even if you don't consent or sign any contracts, and one that if you break, you can get extorted, if you resist to pay, arrested, and if you resist again, killed. It's an ethical absurdity, and unjustifiable in any way. And also, of course, it has tremendously negative practical effects, as emp shows in the video.
1 likeYo this video series is dope. The abuse of DMCA by huge companies is a long standing issue. Companies like UMG and Sony are just as corrupt as the big record labels and radio stations... they all engage in secret deals with Youtube, allowing them to make their own rules. They're allowed to change the rules whenever, or just disregard them completely.
0 likesThe old fashioned music industry is going the way of Blockbuster and cable news. Why else would these "billion-dollar companies" need to steal 5 or 10 bucks from some indie musician Youtube?
The problem isn't Copyright Law - it's the ABUSE of Copyright law causing our current situation. Change the laws all you want, but as long as we keep using their services and literally paying them to restrict our free expression, we have no one but ourselves to blame.
>graduates from copyright school
1 like>literally graduates
Well played
I once got copyright claimed for a soundcloud song I added to a video of mine. The song I used, and the one I got claimed for were two different songs. The only similarity between the two was the beat. Which ironically, is a free, and copyright free beat.
0 likesi fucking love how well does poet and the painter work with that bit you put it in and how well you used geentle giant i your older vids
0 likes19:15 uh @emplemon, this may not be good for videos in the long run, certain licenses can expire or get revoked. This means if youtubers uses copyrighted material and goes inactive down the line, eventually the license gets revoked or expires, thus their video gets either ad-claim or worse, taken down.
0 likesWe have been able to make the software industry, which used to be big corporation suing another big corporation after another, to be able to get together and improve the general welfare of software with Open Source Software. Hell, some open source licenses straight up allow you to make distributions of the software for free while still being profitable (Linux and Firefox come to mind). So then I ask you, why the hell can we not have something similar with copyright?
0 likesThe human mind is built to remix current ideas like crazy until it becomes almost original this is how we create "original" ideas Vsauce did a video on this. And these mega companies want to police this so nobody can remix their butiful songs movies etc. wich will stop the making new ideas so it becomes impossible
2 likes18:40 I know you'll say this is stupid, because it really is, but the answer to this point is that the music/entertainment industry has separate licencing for live broadcasts and stream than it does for on-demand streams and videos.
0 likesDid you recently watch the everything is a remix documentary? I had to write an essay for my final over this same topic. You even go over the same points in the video
2 likesHere's an idea: Do 18:02 but make the company find, note, and prove that it's their property. That amount of effort will easily drop most copyright claims
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Execpt for the fact. That thus will require taking it to court which will then require a lot of money for the case. Which as emplemon said is not a tangeble option for youtubers
0 likeshey Emps, just wanted to let you know that I will d̶̛̀ó̵̀͏w̶̸̧͘̕ņ̵͢l҉͘͝͝o͘a̢͝ḑ͡͞ this video, not to post it on my channel or something like that, but to archive it, show it to my friends on a screen and maybe torrent it should it become unavailable on the future
0 likesShame EmpLemon didn't spare a few minutes to mention Creative Commons, CopyLeft, or more permissive licensing. There isn't a lot of content available under CC licenses now, but encouraging more artists and creators to put their original work out under licenses that permit remixing and fair use can help build the foundation of a world where Remix Culture can thrive in the future.
0 likesThis is why we as a gamers need to rise up
0 likesYears ago I spent days trying to figure out how to properly license a song and tracking down who to specifically contact is a nightmare. And what I found out is 15 grand will give you a 1 year license. 1 YEAR and you have to renew or take it down its awful.
0 likesThe copyright laws were meant to protect artists, now all they are doing is helping megacorps exploit them
0 likesIts funny I found you off of complaining about a guy who was killing memes, but every other video you made is addressing something relevant to something I enjoy.
0 likes11:10 Does singing it in Spanish count?
1 likeTbh I wouldn't be surprised if singing a song in a different language would get you in trouble
Just 3 min into your video and it's already a fucking masterpiece.
0 likesI thought Emplemon was doing alright but then I saw the damaged tattoo on his forehead so now I know he's damaged
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lol i didn't know that you are here v: hello my favorite jojo ytp youtuber :)
0 likes@giuliano gabriel montti cheretti how to heart comments on other people's comments sections wait this isnt Google
0 likesJobs of the future:
0 likesCorporate Copyright Enforcers
IT Copyright Content Specialist
Corporate Copyright Digital Forensics
Typical Pattern:
Introduce new prohibitive legislation
Ill-planned enforcement
Reminds me A bit of Random Crits in TF2.
0 likesA system outdated due to better maps, weapons and players, while the only people who want to keep them are the nostalgic boomer players from 2009 who think it'll break the game.
When Susan was talking with the ftc she had to communicate to people what youtube is with people who don't even have a cellphone.
0 likesWhat's stopping everyone from blocking the main culprits of the copyright exploiting?
0 likes9/10
0 likesA 10/10 would have been a Raid Shadow Legends Ad instead. RustyCage knows what's up
Oh no they're coming to fix it all oh no-
1 likeEdit: I thought this was the one you said would be covering how to avoid copyright, then I remembered you already covered it. Still, you can think of it as what Disney whenever the public domain is about to end.
The issue with YouTube is bots don't do followup. I can't tell you how many times our music streams have gotten copyright claims from companies representing bands who've given us specific permission to use their music. Try explaining that to a bot ugggh
0 likesYou might be interested in looking up the CASE Act of 2019. It would allow copyright claims to go to a small claims court rather than the big, expensive Federal courts that adjudicate claims under the current law. It would allow creators to more easily make fair use arguments and get judgements in their favor. It was passed by the U.S. House but the Senate vote has been pending for a few months.
0 likesHonestly, to solve the problem, we need to be a little more radical than being copyright abolitionist.
0 likesThe radio station part is weird for me as there's a local station in my town that plays 0 ads 24/7
0 likesI came up with the idea of hitting the "reverse audio" button on sm64 endless stairs before you did and by my estimation you owe me 10 million dollars
0 likes14:55 side note: this is why watermarking memes is stupid. You created something that people like so much that they are trying to steal it.
0 likesYour commentary playlist is at the bottom of my library, YouTube is definitely censoring you
0 likesand folk wonder why I unironically support pirate politics.
0 likesCompanies can't keep up with the internet so they have to do shit like this I assume.
0 likesFun fact:I got copywrited for using dreamscape on a video from years ago today
2 likesEmp and Historians video in the same day? I feel like this was planned out 🤔
0 likesThe face reveal we needed, but not the one we deserve.
0 likesit's funny I hate ads, but love memes. I find more corporate media through memes to enjoy than ads, and they are killing memes, the one way I find new content.
0 likesjust saying, i your channel is the whose videos i look forward to the most, emp.
0 likes16:08 "war on this, prohibition of that ... didnt prevent what they were trying to prevent"
2 likesWelcome to the gun control argument.
This man references smash bros, pink floyd, AND publix. You're alright emp, you're alright
0 likesWhat if I hate media companies and want them to lose money?
0 likesdude, you should became an author or journalist
1 like+EmpLemon
0 likesI am 100% supporting the idea that copyright system needs to be revamped to suit modern day,however you seem to mislead ppl and/or not fully understand the copyright system that is currently in place yourself.
Happy Birthday song is in public domain*, however specific *performances of that song could be copyrighted, same goes for other old music mentioned in the video.
In that regards, it's a great video, I wish that something like flat fee for licensing copyrighted material would exist as well as splitting revenue based on how much copyrighted material was used... but this opens a huge Pandora-box that everyone is afraid to touch as of rn.
Suing musical acts over "nicking" other people's works actually predates sampling in rap: there's even a separate Wikipedia page about Led Zeppelin's legal troubles in this regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Led_Zeppelin_songs_written_or_inspired_by_others
0 likesWhen you record a cover song you owe some royalties to the copyright holder. (The most famous examples of this are "Yesterday" and until recently, "Happy Birthday To You") You also need to add the appropriate credits: when Hendrix covered "All Along the Watchtower" he also named Bob Dylan as the songwriter and stated the song's copyright belonged to Dylan's ASCAP company,. Early rap samples didn't do this until rap became big business, and then everyone wanted their piece of the pie.
This should be #1 on trending.
0 likesYou didn't get a Cent for that never ever video? Dude. Lmk what I can do to help that series is the best series on youtube
1 likeNo mention of the guy that embraced clown world and copyright claimed his own videos, allowing him to at least get a cut of the monetization, and have other channels be immediately monitized right from zero subs? Not in the context of "Look, it can work!" but in the context of "Shit is so broken, this is what you have to do, to get anything resembling a fair shake"
0 likesat 11:11 it sais that you cannot sing the "happy birthday to you" lyrics for profit without paying royalties.
0 likescorrect me if im wrong but according to the information in this video in the court of law you can clearly appeal to previous examples of the alleged actions of the company that is suing you, as far as being the owner or not it will raise a valid concern in the court of law when you compare 2 criminals but with one having a bigger track record of the same crime.
0 likestherefore in any rational world unless both sides want to get sued for the % of money they likely received from the crime big corporations will always be on the losing end of that, which should lead the 2 parties to negotiate a settlement on the matter with the sued being on the winning end because he has less profit so almost any settlement should be fair to the individual creator.
I mean, I dont know how the law works in that regard and I tend to think that the "Law" in that regard is just another company selling itself to the highest bitter which is why I tend to think that on the grounds of the information in this videos companies should be sued way more than individual creators and not only that but for a company to sue will be the same as amazon operating at a loss of profits like during the economic crisis which is a lose-lose scenario to any big company unless they seek to plunder all their money to sue a few hundred individuals at best given a good lawyer presentation on their end.
so how come this thing is even a threat to individual creators?
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because do you really think the average creator has time and money and such to sue them
0 likesSounds like unregulated free market with extra steps
0 likes21:28 Big corps drinking up the 39 cent revenue from a small YouTube channel
1 likeCopyright is part of freespeech.
0 likesOnly thing I took away from this is emp likes my favourite band
0 likesThe root cause is capitalism. You could take down youtube the next website will do the exact same. Advertiser have the money, they have power. That is how it works around here.
0 likesIf you are not willing to change that, then you are not willing to take action to make online video service ethical.
Copyright law? Sounds more like modern gulag to me.
0 likestbh when susan became youtubes ceo youtube started to get fucked up
0 likes1998’s copyright act is called the Sonny Bono Act? That sounds like the type of name a clown would have.
0 likesThe YouTube Meta-Game | The Golden Calf
0 likes9:41
2 likesI see that thumbnail. I hope you got my email about STAR_ before YT DMs got shut down...
Well, he finally lost the last grain of sanity. Least it's funny cringe.
0 likesWe live in copyright.
0 likesYou turn more cringe with each video. And I can't help but watch and enjoy. Dingus. Cuuuujjj nntttt
0 likes10/10 would pirate again
0 likes>No special thanks to mumkey
1 likeThe betrayal continues
One day a person will for president to reform Copyright law and he or she will win in a landslide while Hollywood cries to sleep.
0 likesthe only thing in this video that i think is actually bad is the fact that public domain has progressed 3 years in the last 40. in a world where the copyright ended after 23 years, big corporations absolutely should exert their full influence over individual artists to squeeze every possible penny out of them. the man's comment about breaking reasonable laws is correct, the laws just aren't reasonable. also i like your 3 steps to fix the system. though, i think that certain companies/artists should have the right to back out of the flat license and negotiate their own price. they'd just need to put the name of their song on a warning list so youtubers know that their flat license doesn't get them rights to it.
0 likesMy words but a whisper, your deafness a shout.
1 likeWas that Logan Paul you snuck into that black and white image near the beginning?! LOL. I appreciated this series for sure. Thanks for putting in the work.
0 likesthis is worthy of sharing.
0 likeswe will sue you for even listening to a song
0 likesemplemon, hero of the imperium
0 likes13:11 I just listened to TaAB the first time two nights ago and wondered if you had used it. Heh
0 likesThat instrumental of thick as a brick in there, I did not expect that. Nice.
1 likeWhy are we still talking about fair use in 2020?
0 likesLol my first video was claimed within minutes of uploading
0 likesTho tbf I dont care and I just flat out used some very claimable music
Tbh they say pirating movies and music hurts the creators no it hurts the corporations more than the creators
0 likesHOLY SHIT THE PROFESSOR IS IN THIS VIDEO
0 likesEmp, if you decide to jump ship from YT, I'm jumping too
0 likesi missed Jake Paul in that lynching photo the first time 😳😳😳
0 likesInb4 literal mass shootings from artists pissed at the copyright system
0 likesDownward spiral. Here we go again
0 likesFucking magnificent video.
0 likesVery good video
0 likes8:15 CONCENTRATION
0 likesHAHA GOOD JOKE
DISNEY BEING ANTISEMITIC
even if it was a hoax.
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I hope you are joking
0 likesBrainCoolo what, about the anti-semitism thing? No. It was hinted on their wiki that he was making content that somewhat resembled or involved that of the sort.
0 likesI need a new platform to watch videos
0 likesEvery song is on Spotify? None of my demos are or ever will be on there and Danzig's albums Blackacidevil, Satan's Child & I:Luciferi are not on there. Neither is anything by Samhain or any original releases from Marilyn Manson & The Spooky Kids. That's just naming a very small amount but what my point is is that EVERY SONG EVER CREATED is not on Spotify.
0 likesThanks Corporatism.
0 likesIts not pirating. Its privateering.
0 likesThe end times are here
7 likeskomm susser tod starts playing
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0 likesIt all returns to nothing!
0 likesI know that I have let you down
0 likes"Turbo boomers" lmao
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hi sheeeeep. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeee!
0 likes@JOD I see. Have fun in your journey of commenting
0 likesbruh copyright laws are made by Boomers? Cringe!
0 likesNobody
4 likesYouTube copyright system : IM THE JOKAH BABY
never thought i would see the joker at the gators stadium
0 likesEmpLemon lives in Gainesville FL!! I've been in the same town has home THE WHOLE TIME
3 likesThis is why SiIvagunner is so liked. It’s like Youtube poop for music.
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Except it open for everyone
1 likeDon't forget Triple q! That bombs over Skullgirls is fire! And Knuckles mania knuckles and knuckles is hilarious.
0 likesAn_Annoying_Cat --- That's because Content ID system has harder time detected, if music belongs to Rightholder, plus the fact that he didn't monetize his video makes even more harder.
1 like@Falen Demo5 the team*
0 likes3:22 this is what family guy will look like in 2014
0 likesGreat ass video man!
0 likesYour new surmane is
0 likesAnticopyright One
Capitalism: Privatization and unregulated companies/markets are healthy for the market and society
4 likesThe market and society:
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@Yes I will I am can’t wait no it isnt, to start, because of soft regulations, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. have become a shit hole were they can steal your personal information, your money, your freedom of speech, etc. Because "they are the owners and they can do whatever they want".
3 likesIn the specific case of copyright, still not real regulation, because is only regulating everyone who it isn't a bilionare companie.
@Yes I will I am can’t wait if you don't understand, think about it this way
2 likesThere is not regulation in how much money the can steal from you.
They can suit you just because THEY THINK the ip look similar to the material you use.
There is not limit of how much star-war-size ips you can own, this mean that if you own marvel and lucal films you can own 90% of the market for ever.
And i clearly write "unrelated COMPANIES", companies can do whatever they want for whatever reason capitalist boomers say. Not because ONE ASPECT that affects ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE is regulated, it means there are real regulations as a hole.
@Yes I will I am can’t wait even if you are right, and it count as a regulation, is a bad one that doesnt affect big companies , in my original comment i explicitly put COMPANIES AS A HOLE are unregulated in their power, so even if you are correct, 80% of my argument still holds up.
0 likesProblem is the market and society themselves aren't healthy, they're led/run by plagues rn.
0 likesJesus his voice is 20 but in his joker costume he looks 30
0 likesI love you EMP Blast citrus
0 likeswhat movie was that where he was ripping his face off
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Poltergeist
0 likesdoes this mean you're joining lefttube?
0 likesMaybe we will see some positive changes when all the boomers retire
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hi GR. we like fortntieeee! we like fortniteeeeee!!!!!!
0 likesRetire? Some of these boomers have made sure they keep their power position until death. We're talking 50 year olds that might live 30 more years.
0 likesThey also have people of the same mindset lined up to take their place. Most of them aren't even young, they're 40+.
It's a never ending pile of trash.
Hey that's thick as a brick
3 likesAre you going to do a video on that interview matpat had with Susan
0 likesCOPPA
3 likesCopyright and Patent protections are extremely important, and they should be enforced strictly. (The products of a person's mind are the property of that person, more or less, and the mind that produced them should be compensated for their use)
3 likesHowever, I agree that current copyright laws take it too far, and are used more often to enforce corporate greed. I personally think that the life of the author is long enough. Any longer than that is no longer protecting the creator of the work, but whoever buys it after their death. (Maybe the author could pass it down to their family through his/her will, but author's life plus 70 years for a corporation is more than ridiculous.)
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the life of the author is way TOO long. did you watch past the first 5 seconds?
1 likeNothing wrong with diphtheria man.
0 likesThe sad thing is there is no need for them to change the law. What congressmen is going to spend their time to propose laws that reduce copyright power? Even the more righteous ones wouldn't waste their time on it .
3 likesAnd companies have no incentive to change it. As far as I can see, they get all the benefits with little downside except for the occasional bad press when they go too far.
The only reason music and movie streaming became a legitamite thing old studios now do is bc they saw huge losses in sales due to pirating or competitive streaming services and they needed to adapt.
But until copyright somehow causes them profit loss or it becomes a bigger issue in the public eye nothing will change. Even the Let it Go situation, Disney bullied their way out of it even though they basically created the laws that allowed them to get sued.
And consumers supported Disney and had their backs on it. And even with all the content creators who get hurt by unfair use of copyright, there's no real alternative to post their content so YouTube doesn't have to change much either.
There's unfortunately no incentive to change anything in the foreseeable future and it's a bummer.
I'm gonna have nightmares with that rhino taking a shit.
0 likeshes gone mad
0 likesCan't wait for everyone's favourite pessimist to complain about Youtube for half an hour <3
3 likesdamn its almost like capitalism isnt a good system
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Ya, it's like a Free Market system would be better
0 likes@Jabberwockybird yeah nah free market is just capitalism without any safeguards id rather not have my kids kidnapped and sold into slavery
0 likes@hbag then I guess we should adopt a tyrannical system and just let the government turn us into their own slaves
0 likes@Jabberwockybird ah, yes, the only two systems of government that exist, "let people have child slaves" or "literal dictatorship"
0 likesThat's how Allah works
0 likesM A D N E S S
0 likesWhat did you use to edit
0 likesAre you going to cover the coppo thing
0 likesTwo uploads within the same month? What is this?!
0 likesMaterialists are the root of many problems.
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That and the power mongers.
0 likesI'd pay 100 dollars
0 likesMonopolies are the worst.
0 likesWe'd love a better platform but it isn't coming anytime soon.
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Well Vimeo and Dailymotion exist, but they are fucking terrible.
0 likesIght imma copyright Helium. See ya plebs.
0 likesCopying is not theft.
0 likesFinally!!!!
0 likesIs that Ben Hill Griffin stadium? I wonder if I’ve seen you around Gainesville
0 likesRemoved for bullying Corporate Conglomerates
0 likesThis is why we need communism
0 likesDid you get demonetized?
0 likesDamn right
0 likesis that jethro tull I´m picking up in the background?
0 likesHow’d you get into the stadium?
0 likesEmp face reveal
0 likesWelp, back to newgrounds
0 likesChrist my eardrums are broken
0 likesomg you go to UF?!?!?! I wish I knew you~!
0 likesPls more never ever, pls
0 likesStop lying we all know your real name is electro magnetic pulse lemon
0 likesI don't understand. Why do you think Entrance of the Gladiators is not public domain? It was published 1897.
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesare eggs meat?
0 likesyoutube is a joke
0 likesI recognize thick as a brick by jet hero Tull. Nice
0 likesdisrespect your surroundings
0 likesWhat song is that at 1:15
0 likesThick as a brick!!!! Yesssss
0 likeswhat a fuckin society amirite
0 likesBoomers and psychopaths...
0 likesWas this a face reveal
0 likesJethro Tull, nice.
0 likesWho's the guy with the shades on the green scrolling text TV background?
0 likesOf course corporations want to defend their own interests! Its the government that shouldnt allow it, as its the one entity with power to enforce such things
0 likesi have 20 something subscribers and i'm not making money off of ads anyways so who cares if i just blatantly use copyrighted music over the entire video? nobody, that's who
0 likesTHICK AS A BRICK EPIC
0 likesCopyright laws fucked up BrawlBRSTMSX 3.
0 likes3:08 oh man. What movie is that?
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The Poltergeist.
0 likesAnd that's why corporate greed should be considered unlawful.
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Corporate greed is literally the reason why slavery existed, it's beyond unlawful, it's a source of human evil.
0 likes@Raymunator So why isn't it considered unlawful?
0 likes@Alexandre Vachon It is, but tell me, what can we do about it? Corporations literally change laws to acommodate their needs.
0 likes@Raymunator And the root problem is MONEY.
0 likes7:03 WHAT IS THAT FROM???
0 likesWhat happened to spongebob ytp do you know how to unblock it
0 likesJust one thing... OY V3Y!
0 likesim on shrooms dude and I really didnt ask for this
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ok im like 20 minutes in and i gotta say your vids are like tailor made for me
0 likesEat the rich.
1 likeAn odd way to do a face reveal
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You still can't really make out his facial features.
0 likesIs that thick as a brick in the background? 16:30
0 likesFace reveal?!
0 likesI love how YouTube manages to spark more chaos before you even have time to finish your series, the bantz have been banned too
2 likesBecause I’m such a big fan of YTPs, ever since way back in the day, I’ve known about this problem for years. Gigantic media companies are just terrible honestly and our government is probably not going to do much about it for a very long time.
2 likesYes! I love these videos. I had know idea what people were talking about when they said that the copyright system is garbage until watching these.
2 likesVery informative and entertaining!
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hi Mat. we like fortntitttee! we like fortniteeeee!!!
0 likesThis is gradually becoming one of the best series on Youtube. Ever. I'm so glad I've been subscribed for so long.
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0 likesEmp. Please DONT STOP making these videos. You have an enormous target on your back and have had one for months now, and it's why companies flock to your videos like flies on a turd with copyright claims. It's proof that it's the last thing they want. Keep it up.
1 likeThick as a Brick , nice. 👌🏻
2 likesDefinitely a contender for the anthem of Copyright law.
I am a copyright attorney. It's my job. I agree with damn near everything you have said in this series.
0 likesContent creators need to keep culture jamming alive.
1 likeI mean, what is a YouTube Poop other than culture jamming through video editing?
I find it really scary that media corporation can extend the copyright law in favor of their intrest
0 likesI love your channel so much!! Please keep complaining about YouTube.
0 likesThis copyright thing is literally evil lmao. I am laughing but I still breathe in society.
0 likesMy lil sis (age 15) says every creator should go somewhere else because Youtube really doesn't has the creators' best interests in mind.
0 likesI agree with her, honestly. We all need to let this website die. But how? How could we do it?
Excellent video, really loved the pacing!
0 likesGreat moves emp, keep it up!
0 likesOkay but hear me out Emp: I think the majority of your fans currently have enjoyed the direction you've taken with the channel and are all for it. I personally do, a lot. You seem to be quite literally the ONLY person who cares enough about the truth and about the site(A lot of people care but not as much as you do) to go into such detail and do so much research that you unearth a very damming truth that flips something on top of its head entirely. Your leafyishere video. Everyone though Ian killed Leafy's channel, but with the substantial evidence you provided from your research, you revealed that it's more likely than not that Youtube themselves targeted Leafy and silenced him under the radar and used the content cop as the perfect disguise in order to do it. And we all fell for it. But not you. You dug up that truth, and I absolutely love that, You're always teaching me new things with these " Rants " you do(I'd call them moreso informative videos). So please, never stop. Keep doing what you do, I'll always be here for it, bro.
1 likeCopyright Law: Do I look like a clown to you?
0 likesEmp: Maybe!
Really good video. I'd like to add btw that the exact same issue that's crippling the rap industry is the same one that's plaguing genres like Vaporwave and Future Funk and stifling the growth of those scenes in the overall music industry. For all intensive purposes, plunderphonics ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunderphonics ) is entirely illegal and 100% unviable for becoming a massively successful artist UNLESS you can afford to pay royalties for samples, despite...
0 likes1) your talent with remixing and distorting samples
2) the nature of plunderphonics in general within the vaporwave and future funk genres
3) how utilizing warped samples plays into your other skills as a musical artist
Being a vaporwave or future funk artist is almost always synonymous with being a copyright smuggler, which is pretty fucked up.
Also, fuck you Jesus. Unban Appre. :^)
omg i hadn't realized how similar patents should be to copyright. one's taking way too damn long
0 likes19:26 sounds good for regular content creators but how would they know when people just tried to make money off the song itself? via something like direct upload
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Probably detect how much of the video audio is just those songs.
0 likesEvery time I hear the joke about the happiest place on Earth, I just think about "I spent the next three years in a POW camp."
0 likesIf someone sends you a copyright claim so you want it done in a Chinese Court, underneath their copyright law you can practically use whatever you want that way.
0 likesI talked to Matt Lowne, I'm on his discord, you could tell it's really fucked up what he went through, and the fact that even the YT Music library is in danger is just sad at this point... For shame YouTube, their new slogan should be "Broadcast Yourself, but only what we want you to."
0 likesCopyright law is just another reason why I happily ride a grand ship to sail the seas.
1 likeI think copyright should be something along the lines of how long the company is using it, then like 21 years after. This gives company the ability to still use their characters/ideas then when this company falls out, if ever, then the people can use.
0 likesAppreciate the use of Jethro Tull also love the video its very well made
1 likeGreat content as usual, just tone it down a notch with the loud bs next time, kinda hard to binge watch your shit like that mate.
0 likesNever thought I’d wish for my favorite site on the whole internet to die
1 likeImagine if the game rogue was copyright by umg, then the whole rogue-like genre wouldn't exist.
0 likesYou're right about all this. What can we do?
0 likesI keep wondering 90 years from now how will internet history be documented and archived, let alone the second biggest search engine in the planet.
0 likesIt won't surprise me if this period of human culture gets forgotten and undermined like anything else from yesteryears.
Let's actually answer my question, now the preservation of internet culture is underwhelming at best. The majority users rely on the Way Back Machine, a site that does it's job well yet faces some bumps on the road particularly cause of how clunky it can be and how untapped it's potentials are.
We will never know when a piece of history vanishes forever, but it's most likely the cause of overlooking that history.
I imagine in the future a software that emulates (web 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc...) like with dated video games, but alas it is but a dream I treasure in mind.
Perhaps a revolution will do justice for the lacking privilege of online communication from our leader's part.
Ridge is a badass company. Thanks for supporting Gundam and Emp bros. Love you fuckers
0 likesCopyright law (and every other law and regulation in general) are created with the narrative that is to protect the small creator, but in reality the big companies that negotiate with the government for the creation of those laws since they will be the ones that benefit the most since is allow them to create big monopolies that wouldn't be possible on a free market.
0 likesIf it wasn't for those big companies being able to o bargain with the government there would never be such thing as a copyright law since is ridiculous to own thought or an idea because it's not truly a property since several people can use an idea at the same time without taking away the right of the "owner" to use the idea
Wish more people talked about this, bc their is no way i can send something edgy like this to any congressman to try and participate in democracy.
0 likesSo basically copyright wasnt even meant to protect ip's but was meant to make people more active and incentivise art and creativity.
0 likesBut over time became a "way of life" because copyright protection periods lasted for a human lifetime because of corporate lifestyle?
Geriatric Trubo Boomers
0 likesI like this. Thank you for bringing this into the public domain.
Copyright reform and continued lifesupport for the Mickey Mouse copyright both require congressional action, and are therefore unlikely to occur until some time in the 2040s.
0 likesThe copyright system is just clowning us.
0 likesThe most important thing I learned was that Rusty Cage invented the Knife Game Song.
0 likesI swear, ex-youtube poopers make the best editors.
0 likespatent law is actually weighed against small creators as well. unless you have the money for a legal team to enforce it your patent isnt worth shit
0 likesWhat if we just bypass YouTube's monetization and ad system and stay with sponsorships
0 likesAs a fellow humble content creator, the copyright landscape is one of the biggest jokes of the modern era. Think about it. So many creators in the future who'll toil away to try and flourish on platforms like this will essentially be forced to create SPECIFIC TYPES OF MEDIA if they even want to DREAM of earning a profit for all of their hard work. It's sickening, really. YouTube will soon be nothing but vlogs and content that doesn't try to risk breaking the edges of the creative cosmos, because if you do anything else, just prepare to be paid in pennies. Which is the biggest shame, because even though we (content creators) love to express our creative minds and entertain people, we also want to get paid and make better lives for ourselves eventually. Who doesn't?! Hopefully this series of videos get in front of the right pair of eyes, because it's golden. Thank you.
0 likesHow do we know that Emplemon is in a downward spiral if he doesn't have it tattooed on his forehead?
0 likesEven further down the spiral we go.
0 likesNext stop, insanity.
Emp, answer me this. If I could show this trilogy to Suzan , what would you think ?
1 likeThe patent system also favors big corporations, unfortunately.
0 likes"Thats how the law works"
1 likeFabulous video, EmpLemon.
0 likesRusty's defense didn't convince me.
0 likesI think the concept of intellectual property should be entirely removed from the law on a first amendment basis, and if necessary we should amend the constitution to prevent intellectual property from ever being a thing again.
Copyright and patents tell people what they can't do in a situation where nobody is directly harmed. It only exists to support monopolistic leeches on our capitalist system, and is responsible for much of the troubles in the modern world.
Didn't happy birthday recently become public domain. I remember hearing about some court case
1 likeYou will not create. You will only consume.
2 likesConsume.
Consume.
Take your loyalty rewards points so you can consume more.
It's almost like regulating the private economy isn't a good thing
0 likesEntry of the Gladiators is not under copyright. The recording of it is. You can get recordings of it that are legal to use by going to IMSLP and finding the piece there. IMSLP provides free recordings and sheet music for classical music that's under public domain. All recordings there are found under the creative commons license.
0 likesGreat vid btw, fuck copyright.
This guy is a full on philosopher
0 likesAt this point we should just ditch copyright alltogether. If we leave some copyright then it will always lead to abuse.
0 likesI got a claim for using Ode to Joy which is a song by BEETHOVEN and based on a poem from the late 1700s. the system is genuinely awful
0 likesfun series now back to the Never ever series :D
0 likesI’ve had over 40 toasts in the last 30 days
0 likesLiving currently, Dark Vegan (Johnny Test) should be in jail, he has no toast experience. He’s never been in the toast category.
I would just say; Stay tuned, The day of Reckoning will come, and the record will be set straight.
18:00 this could still be open to abuse with funny moments guy channels putting the clips inside a large envelope of black video so the copyrighted material is only a portion of the total "video" length.
0 likesStill better than nothing though
Fantano and EmpLemon join forces to sell sleek, minimalist wallets to the woke masses.
0 likesBeautiful, cool to see 78prof/45prof in this, his entire channel archive of years of uploads and thousands of songs was wiped this year or last year, and he just decided to start over. I’ve got a playlist of songs posted by him and it’s 235 removed videos in a single playlist, completely useless but I keep it in remembrance of what they did, some songs I couldn’t find that version of again until he reposted. It’s just an old man named Bob who’s passionate about music archiving and sharing his collection, not trying to make any money off of anyone.
0 likesgreat stuff man, keep it up. also, was this a face reveal?
0 likesI don't see anyone commenting this, so I think I'll post it myself. Although it is mentioned that "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted currently, this is not true. The copyright expired in 2017. However, it's still very annoying that it took from the 19th century until then to enter the Public Domain. ViHart made a video about it when it happened.
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/AVo0Q8G8tS8
This Christmas, fill your livingroom TV with 10 hours of EmpLemon sitting in front of a fire being angry at the copyright system :3
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@Another Day Please never associate me with fascists, thank you :3
0 likesreally good rant 10/10
0 likesThat was a nice power play you made there
0 likesTo get around the clown song you just use the megalovania version
1 likeWhat frustrates me most is that the majority of people will never realize this is a symptom of the larger issue which is capitalism. If workers, or in this case content creators, wish to reclaim freedom over their labour, they can't just push for change in legislation, it has to be more... radical 😉.
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Cold take. Corporations literally lobbied to prevent capitalist competition. If this was about capitalism they'd be fighting regulation, not creating it.
1 like@Titanium Rain But isn't that what they're doing? They're pushing back against more progressive regulation in order to incentivize their own profit margins. After all, profit margins are everything in capitalism, by any means necessary. Since government regulation is in place they might as well take advantage of it by making it the most optimal for themselves.
0 likesThe natural tendencies of unregulated or poorly regulated capitalism has historically been monopolies; this is no different.
Capitalism is against legislation when it's bad for them. Similarly, socialism is against the amassing of wealth is gained at the expense of people, which it isn't always.
@Chosen Rubric "They're pushing back against more progressive regulation" - bro they're literally pushing FOR regulation.
0 likesProgressive regulation also gets corrupted just the same.
"After all, profit margins are everything in capitalism, by any means necessary" - Not really. If you disobey the rules of capitalism for profit, you're not a capitalist. You're against the free market, you're against people making it, you're against competition. If I pay a gang (government) to close down every shop that doesn't belong to me or pays me protection money that's not capitalism. That's being a criminal.
You ever notice that thing between proportion and proportionality - Yeah, that ain't going away anytime soon. People are too weak...and pathetic.
0 likesAnother one well spoken.
0 likesthank you for including the hammer scene from Pink Floyd's The Wall
0 likesIf I was a youtuber, couldn’t I create a dummy “strike account” and strike all my own videos to prevent anyone else from doing so?
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That used to work, Jim Sterling did a video on it called "the copyright deadlock." But you might need help from a lawyer.....say, I wonder if one could make a business out of that. "I'll strike your video so no-one else can!".
0 likesCopyright law exists in a society
0 likesEmp lemon I can't believe you would use jethro tull's copyrighted music in your videos constantly
0 likesI strongly approve the Thick as a Brick background music
0 likesEmplemon is the blackpiller we all need, but not the one we deserve
0 likesWe live in a Copyright Claim
1 likeBottom text
Oof, that's not a good law.
0 likesEmpLemon, like this when this video get demonitized. I just wanna know how long it will take
1 likeI wonder when will the stick figure enter copyright hell
0 likesWe should get our local government officials to make bills that make copyright protection less strict
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And to make copyright laws actually benefit the individuals and not the corporations. To Make it like patent laws and update it for the modern day and not for pre-internet days
0 likesi was sucking the yolk out of an egg as you played that part with the rino dumping.
0 likesWhat do you define as a "small artist" weren't many of the people who used rusty cages knife song smaller, less influential creators than he. Surely by that logic those creators should be protected from him
0 likesBold of you to use Reactor's background music at the end
0 likesI really dont give a shit whether things I make are used in another persons things as long as I'm credited
1 likeYoutube is having a NeoGAF moment.
0 likesThe thing that bothers me most about the shitty policies and terrible algorithms for both copyright and demonetization is that they intentionally made it so both the claimants and the AI are dirty cops.
0 likesThey shoot first, then ask questions later. Why not let people get all the ad money they can in a holding account, have a notification that it's in holding, and send the appropriate percentage of the monetization once it's done being in holding. I mean for god's sake how hard is it to run ads on content the ad maker disagrees with, thereby potentially making them more revenue, and denying payout of the creator if it's confirmed both not child friendly and in violation of terms? The AI could even do most of the work!
Pure gold my guy
0 likesThe Joker movie was the best thing to happen to this channel
0 likessay goodbye to your add revenue lemon boy
1 likeGod i love you emplemon
0 likesWatch him get copyright claimed for that clown song from the two seconds of marge singing it
0 likesI just hope Disney dosen't buy free music archive
1 likeYou better give cypress hill your hard earned money!
1 likeyou should copyright “geriatric turbo-boomers”
0 likesprohabition was about reducing male violence against their wives.
0 likesthe alcohol was just a step on the path.
the alcohol wasnt the issues.
woman just get tired of being beat by drunk men.
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Hipster Faye that created more issues, while not fixing the main issue
0 likesIs the Emp residence also the irl version of Beter's house?
0 likesHey Emp, I’m trying to figure out the background music you used. You weren’t using Jethro Tull were you?
0 likesWell said
0 likesGeriatric Turbo Boomers is a stellar fucking way to think of the average congressman or woman.
1 likeI made a bunch of gaming videos with Beatles songs dispersed throughout, maybe some are still up? (IDK TBH because I give 0 shits about my uploads now) Anyway most of them are banned worldwide now even though I would upload, get a strike, edit it down and re-upload again to see what exactly the site deems appropriate, but the goal posts kept moving, so I do all this work editing and editing and i am not even monetizing my content, and they just keep taking down my videos.
2 likesSo I learned how to make my own music, but how do I protect it? It seems like it'd be impossible to keep safe by myself with 0 funds to invest. And why would I want to support a site with my uploads, a site that deems it necessary to continuously destroy my work for no reason other than corporations are fucking greedy? So fuck it. Never uploading to this JOKE again. My music.
WTF Emplemon, I'm radicalized now.
0 likesGreat video
0 likes0/10 didn't break into Rusty's house to make him do the knife game with the Ridge knife. Unsubbed, blocked, reported, and disliked
0 likes"...just use Rusty Cage's background music..."
0 likesBig oof.
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hi nate. we like fortnitteeee! we likef ortniteeee!!!!!!
0 likesHappy Birthday is now public domain.
2 likesThe thing is, patents are only as valuable as the lawyer you hire to enforce it. Edit- in other words, fucking useless
0 likesI'll just say, that why is a very dumb...question...it's a rhetorical question, right? Oh...yeah...it was.
0 likesReality is Copyrighted
0 likesEmp is becoming more and more like Mumkey Jones now with these skits. Mumkey was killed at around 500k subscribers. hmm
0 likesThis explains why a lot of the music today sucks because everyone says music in the 70s and 60s was better maybe cuz the copyrights weren't as evil as they are now
0 likesWhat a fucking treat this has been.
0 likesabolish copyright law whoop whoop
0 likesIS THAT THICK AS A BRICK GOD EVERY VIDEO I LOVE YOUR TASTE MORE EMP
0 likes11:52 looks like the cleveland metro parks nature center stairs.
0 likesHmmmmm the editing 👌
0 likesI pirate all my music and most of my movies and TV shows. I don't give a shit about copyright law.
0 likesAre people not making a competitor to YouTube?
0 likes12:06
1 likeCrab rave
Isn't dead!
So has joker Emp replaced punished Emp?
0 likesI love you AmbassadorMelon
0 likesPerfect time to release
0 likesWait Entry of the Gladiators isnt in public domain yet? Wait when was it relea- *1897*. WHAT?
0 likesWe live in an ad break
0 likesBURRRP
matt lowne copyright was unfair
0 likes7:55 why i hate disney
1 like13:42 I see The Prodigy!
1 likeCan anyone explain me why we are still in this site instead of moving on to other platform?
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No one else has the infrastructure and money to upkeep a site like this. If I remember right, Google loses money owning YouTube every year and it's almost impossible to start a fresh one in this day and age
3 likesSees the Joker movie once.
0 likesThis is why we need the Soviet Union
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This is why we don't need the soviet union.
0 likesDude, you live in Gainesville? I had no idea, but that's definitely devils millhopper and the stadium!
2 likesHello, my name is claude, i am posting this from a lan house, its all i have left, i am a musician that sold all my instruments and furniture due to the biggest loss of money you can imagine. How i lost so much money you ask? Well i am the original composer from let it go, but when dumb girls started covering my song on youtube, no one was buying the original song anymore, because they rather listen it for free from those perfect 12 yo covers... So please, for the sake of poor Disney that has been on the black for 10 years, make copyright laws stricter!!1
0 likesum. no. Then, people would just have a black screen for 10 hours and the copyrighted video would just be the 1st 9 minutes.
0 likesBro you should copyright the term tubroboomer $$$$
0 likesT H A T S H O W T H E L A W W O R K S
0 likesI appreciate the Thick As A Brick
0 likesWanna share your joker review with us? I assume u liked it, maybe you’re just memeing
0 likesMore clowns after The Gamer From Mars’s new video...
0 likesWe live in a megaconglomerate
0 likesam i the only one who recognizes 25 or 6 to 4 there?
1 likeJust use Vlare ya dingus!
0 likesThis background song belongs to Mumkey Jones
0 likesWell... well well well...well well well well if it isn't our little droogie emp lemon
0 likesBruh did you get into the Swamp? 😂
0 likesWe LiVe In A sOcIeTy
1 likeFinally lost it huh
0 likes1:44 Dabo and His Boys in The Swamp!
0 likesCommenting for the heck of it(;
1 like16:30 Actually, I do now.
0 likesgotta say, you make a pretty hot clown
2 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesBeautiful
0 likesEmp for president
0 likesDid it copyrighted
0 likesThick As A Brick!!!
0 likesDidn’t mumkey make that song? Was that a joke?
0 likesI PAY MONEY FOR YOUTUBE RED AND NO COMMERCIALS YET THE YOUTUBERS THEMSELVES GIVE ME ADDS
0 likesI don’t understand happy birthday song was put into the public domain by the year 2014 liar
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Also fun fact the company pay everyone back in the 14 million they made off it, you can check the story I got the info on at CBS news google birthday song rights
0 likesMENTAL Scars
1 like11:51 though.....
0 likes👍👍
1 likePull up emplemon is mumkey jones damn I never new I missed though mumkey
0 likesIT WAS PUBLISHED IN 1893
1 likeNice semi-face reveal?
1 likeJoker's Trick
0 likesЛовушка Ютуба
0 likes7:41 right side
0 likes3:04
0 likesyes.
FYI Happy Birthday is in the public domain.
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btw i love the idea of paying in a yearly fee to be able to use popular music! That would solve so many problems! Great video !
0 likesWhen is frying dory coming?
0 likesLOL expoying dead rats
0 likesJust wanna say this... I like u
0 likesNext Video is hockey, I think. Somewhere in February
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it'about melee and it's about to drop soon
0 likesSOCIETY
0 likesR.I.P Whitewood Beachwalk
0 likesDiscord link anyone?
0 likesNosferatu is finally in the public domain.
1 likeI hate that things like this exist, it's too bad great creators like you get trampled into the dirt by corporate boomers.
0 likesUS priority ukraine XD
1 likeWe really, honestly, without a shadow of a doubt and in no uncertain terms live in a society.
0 likesPan frying dory?!?!!
0 likes#madlads
0 likesdownward spirallll
0 likesdownward spirallll
0 likesI love purple "kiss" "kiss" and green! "kiss" "kiss"
0 likesHaha downward spiral go brrrr
2 likesCan you make frying dory
1 likeStrauss Howe Theory
0 likesall U eVer do iS coMplaIn!!1!11!!!
0 likesWelcome to big capital..
0 likesWhen you here 4:53 song.
0 likesI didnt even get notified for this vid
0 likesSociety
0 likes12:38 "Whilst" Eww.
1 likeGangweed !
0 likesI HAVE TWO COPYRIGHT STIKES AND ALL I HAVE IS 32 SUBS WTF MAN
1 likePeople with the most money have the most influence in America because they can manipulate the those in charge.
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That's the case in any country. That's a natural part of life. No government system can avoid that. Not even communism
0 likesWeird Mumkey Jones impression.
0 likesTell em
0 likes10:36
0 likesIm glad someone else shares my fustration
0 likesEEEIIIIIGHTEEEEEN NIIIIIINETYYYYY THREEEEEE
0 likesrhino poop
0 likesI was not notified of your video
0 likesRidge seems like a pretty cool company, They sponsored Tomatoanus and gave him the promo code /anus
0 likesApparently they found it really funny.
As soon as I can afford to I'm buying that wallet with your link love your vids!
0 likesHappy birthday is no longer umder copyright.
0 likesA great example of this copyright abuse are the Game Awards. Apparently WMG took down the whole VOD on Youtube in less than 10 hours after the stream ended. When i head over to twitch to see it the copyrighted part (and some other stuff) gets muted. The only thing possibly containing copyrighted Music would have been from a less an 2 minute Trailer. In a 4 Hour stream. The following part is only speculation but wouldnt the Company who made the trailer own the rights to the song? And if TGA has the rights to show the trailer therefor have the rights to play the song in that context?
0 likesI loved this series, it's a wonderful mix of good editing and showing the pure stupidity of the current copyright system and the companies that exploit the system to dick down content creators who dare use 3 seconds of anything
1 likeDon’t have much to add; just want to let you know this series has been great. Your channel is a stand-out example of what a YouTube channel should be.
1 likeMan, I remember when I first saw a few emplemon vids. They were some funny videos about jokes and remixes of shows. However as I grew older and moved away from the hose videos I stumbled back upon the same joke merchant I once remembered for making silly remixes... but now he too had matured.
1 likePeople may not like your new content, whatever their reason maybe I gotta say man I love your content. Be it your documentary content or your issues based one. Maybe I’ve grown more political and as such my interest in the goings on of things I don’t know about has grown. But keep up the good work
these bring me a righteous anger I love your work and the message you put through. amazingly well spoken and edited
0 likesWould like to just state that I find analysis of how copyright works on this platform fascinating, in that same sort of way that watching two trains on a collision course is. You keep making videos that you want to make, and your own cynical enthusiasm keeps them engaging - even on topics that I'd never research on my own. Thanks for the interesting commentary, Emp.
0 likesThanks for actually making an informative video on the subject of copyright. I actually learned something unlike everyone else just ranting at a video hosting website.
0 likesIt's nice that you can see his interest in prog rock growing with each new video's soundtrack.
1 likeThe fact that you actually provide solutions is a great change of pace from most other rant videos.
0 likesEmp, you should work in YouTube. Seriously, you have a better perspective on internet culture than the turbo boomers running it
1 likeSo, the final part is here, eh?
2 likesThanks for it, Emperor Lemon.
PEOPLE OF SOCIETY! I love your joker type personality in this series, keep up the amazing videos, some of the best of this site!
0 likesWish you were here is one of m favorite albums of all time, one of the reasons is because it attacks the music industry so harshly, and it deserves it. It will forever be topical as long as greed exists
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hi destroyer. we like fortniteeeee! we like fortniteee!!!!!!
0 likesYou should push this more into the public youtube eye
0 likesgain more of a following to this anti copyright movement
this video was amazing, im hopeful about the future with young adults doing more logical thinking and planning than people in power.
Damn bro the influx of capital into an art form completely cripples it? Who'd of thought.
1 likeBe careful, Emp. This video is harassment against YouTube. You don't want it to get removed.
1 likeThat intro was fucking brilliant. Exactly why I'm subscribed to you and the bell is extremely rung.
0 likesOkay, everyone...
0 likesNow it's time to guess how long it'll take before this video gets unfairly copright claimed!
There is one thing though I feel is important to consider when discussing copyright law that you didn't just miss but actively disregarded in your video. I agree with you in almost every way except that copyright law does not only need to protect independent artists, but also bigger corporations. Without copyright law, intellectual property wouldn't really be profitable which would discourage bigger corporations from making intellectual property and disincentivize individuals from pursuing a career in art, music, movies, etc.
1 likeIt would make it so that pretty much the only people creating anything would be individual artists with a community strong enough to want to support the artist. That would mean that big-budget movies, tv-series and animated shows would basically cease to exist entirely since it wouldn't be a profitable business venture to invest in.
However, LIFETIME PLUS SEVENTY YEARS is LUDICROUS given what copyright law is trying to accomplish and to suggest that singing a song around a campfire is against copyright law is just beyond stupid.
Real talk tho, those suggestions you made for reforms at the end are pretty good, hopefully someone from youtube finds this video and takes those ideas into consideration
0 likesThe end of this video operates under the premise that YouTube values its creators over corporations. Which it doesn't and hasn't.
1 likehonestly cant wait for the prohibition era of copyrighted content.
0 likesGreat video and this isn't a big deal but at 6:12 it says that patents are valid for 17 years not 21.
1 likeHonestly shocked by those negative comments you showed. I'm amazed that anyone who ACTUALLY uses youtube could hold those views.
1 likeAlso circus theme is copyright
0 likesDoes that mean new YouTube content creators shouldn't expect to earn any money?
0 likesThough I believe that if earning money is off the table, people will start making videos for the sake of simply using it as an outlet for their creativity.
Happy Birthday To You simply got "lucky" (or rather Warner's Music did when they bought out the publishers decades ago) by timing of it's initial copyright registering. It's actually back in the public domain now after it was proven Warner's only have the rights to a specific instrumental arrangement rather than the popular lyric version.
0 likesI will try to get this video as many views as possible. I really hope the algorithm isn't Shadow Banning this video
0 likesWow he legit called copyright law "reasonable"
0 likesThis video is great. I got a copy claim on a video where I used a royalty free lofi song by some shmuck that sampled it. It got released but I still don’t get why the hell that “song” was copyrighted when it’s based on a free to use song.
0 likesI've been having the same problem. I've been using the song what's on the editing apps, but someone already claimed it. Well, I just make videos for fun.
0 likesIsn't it wonderful how you aren't allowed to own your culture?
1 likethis site has lost its way, it used to promote unique ideas and creators. nowadays it just promotes corporatism and censorship. thanks google, and thanks Susan.
0 likesYou realize youtube isn't even following the law, right? The law says using a small amount of a thing in a transformative way IS Fair Use. Every single time youtube copyright claims a video that isn't a full reupload of the original, they're violating your rights under the law, at least if you live in the U.S.
0 likesIn the grim darkness of the far future there is only copyright claims
0 likesYou've got the issue that that dude from Black Mirror that ends up getting a show where he holds that sliver of glass up to his throat has.
0 likesYou've ranted for so long that something has been filed off the edge.
Still love your content though. If/when YouTube implodes in a dumpster fire, you're one of the creators I'll try to keep up with on other platforms.
Never cleared a sample in my life. Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Madonna, Rolling Stones, The Verve, Oasis, Motorhead, Tina Turner, Duran Duran and Creedance Clearwater Revival among probably dozens of artists. Only time I've not gotten away with it? A 61 year old Louis Prima song that got took down from iTunes. Unbelievable.
0 likesemplemon, you truly are a genius. I wish I could get paid for bitching about how much my boss sucks everyday.
0 likesYou forgot to mention how easy it is for some small artist with copyright of their song can still get copyrighted by random strangers for their own songs
1 likei'm glad this view point seems to gain a lot more popularity recently
0 likesI have a question: do songs from hip hop mixtapes count as copyrighted material?
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hello rich. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeee!!!!
0 likesWell tbh you could also ask Monstercat for music, never seen anyone complain about them claiming someone
0 likesExcellent video, Emp
0 likesAddendum: the DMCA is a backup plan for media companies. If copyright law is ever fixed to a fair arrangement, DMCA protections on works protected by encryption never expires under any circumstances. Circumventing those protections is a criminal act, not a civil matter. This means that if all copies of a copyrighted work released to the public were released encrypted, then the copyright holder may withhold access to the work for a fee indefinitely with the federal government acting as violent enforcers of that fee.
0 likesFor years I've said out of control patent laws, copyright laws, and the DMCA would absolutely obliterate our culture, locking it up permanently behind a paywall and defeating the entire original stated purpose of copyright law to begin with. Lo and behold that's exactly what's happening. Shocker.
I want to see someone get claimed for Fight the Power
0 likes17:57 this would be absolutely amazing for youtubers everywhere!
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hi daniel. wel ike fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeeeeee!!
0 likesThis video has been blocked on copyright grounds in 248 countries.
1 likecopyright, if used rigorously enough, could keep the public from sticking to trends. If somebody copyrights stale traditions such as "happy birthday", the public could potentially leave it to support other things in it's place. It pisses me right off when somebody just takes a sample out of another song, it's cheap and exploitative of fundamental psychological attraction towards previous experience. Using media for memes is pretty integral to understanding them though
0 likesHe's finally gone over the edge. welp we're in the endgame now.
0 likesNext time Emp check out Wikipedia when looking for old songs like Entry of the Gladiators, they often have public domain versions of songs performed by US Military Bands.
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As for why its copyrighted on youtube, recordings of public domain songs don't become public domain. So while anyone is free to make their own version of Entry of the Gladiators, you can't just use a version made by someone else.
0 likesThe real ball-busting part of the public domain freeze is that even if a work is public domain, the recording of that work probably isn't as a 78 record copy isn't going to be suitable for a video. And even if you do find a good copy or make your own recording, who knows if a modern copyrighted recording will flag content ID for your public domain recording!
0 likesCopyright law, content ID, and corporate greed are the reason why you should not be ashamed to pirate anything from any big corporation.
0 likesScrew those guys, they treat you like a criminal no matter what you do, so why play by the rules at all?
Shared the movie you bought with a friend? Piracy.
Shared account passwords with friends? Piracy.
Well I guess I can skip the whole buying the product thing in the first place then, how's that sound huh?
I wonder if YouTube watched this series.
1 likelbry is the answer we need but we will see in next 2 years how downhill yt goes for people to switch
0 likes2:09 Fark! I am going to have to do my own sponsored video just to afford one of those wallets.
1 likeAbsolutely amazing video
0 likesYou know, the Happy Birthday song was never a valid copyright?
0 likesFree us from the tyranny of Disney, please.
1 likeMe eating breakfast while watching Emplemon: yum
0 likesRhino shitting: no
Emp needs to cool it with the antisemitic remarks
0 likesHey, I hate to inform you that I am the copyright holder of the year 1893. I filed DMCA takedown notice unless you give me like 87% of you profits.
0 likesPretty good video and arguments. Too bad they'll say fuck all :(
0 likesAn unjust law is no law at all.
0 likesRestore justice.
Play the gladiator clown song.
worked that ridge ad in like a pro i couldn't be mad if i wanted to be
0 likesPaul McCartney enjoyed A Whole Career sampling other people’s work.
0 likesIt’s only natural for him to close that door behind him Before Anyone DARES try and sample His work....... 🙄
That Rusty Cage BG music sound a little too much like the violins from Herbie Hancock's Suite Revenge. Look out!
1 likeoh but, mr.Spiral you're wrong, I do hate media companies and want them to lose money
0 likes7:47 same question ive been asking about the education system too
0 likesBe careful emp youtube think this is harassment.
0 likesPerfect thank you, can we get rid of capitalism now
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what would we replace it with? Communism?
1 like@Thor mate, this is the fucking law.
0 likesThis goes deeper than "crony capitalism"
Also me saying capitalism is terrible does not equate to me being a communist.
I don't believe in communism either.
Not in our society.
I looked and I didn't get a notification for emperor lemons new upload and I looked in my subscription box and no video either. But the way I found this video was my youtube homepage. CENSORSHIP MUCH?!
0 likesWhaddup council. Were here to lobby about copryright laws. (We all go the power guys)
0 likesA piece of copyrighted media enters the public domain 70 years after being published. That means that after 70 years the copyright no longer exists. So how is it that songs written 120+ years ago will get people sued? This just ain't adding up.
0 likesi agree with everything you said in this video but at the same time its all stemming from your greed. get a real job instead of expecting livelihood from memes
0 likesHere before this video gets claimed for 0.2% of material with 100% of the revenue being taken.
1 likeEmp, it feels like you are going on a downward spiral yourself, the fact that you completely misunderstand why copyright exists, and why people treat IP the same as physical property. I'll admit I dislike how the 'new media' sort of has grown up treating works as disposable pieces of content but claiming copyright is made redundant by copyright violations is a shitty hill to die on. Blaming 'big' companies is a shitty argument too, the creator of any work and representatives of the creator have absolute right to seek payments when the work is used for any commercial purposes, you can't simply use someone's content to make your own content. I can't understand why anyone would justify rappers making money off other artists' work (sampling).
0 likesPerhaps the fairest thing to do for YouTube would be to transfer proportional revenue of the content from third parties, say you have a 100min long video of which 5mins is of third party content you have not licensed, YT could simply give 5% of your revenue to the third party.
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I agree. This video really comes off as the ramblings of someone who has a very strong opinion on things that he really doesn't understand at all. Just because a lot of YouTubers (myself included) use copyrighted material indiscrinately doesn't mean that the law needs to change to benefit their needs.
0 likesAnd copyright laws, as well as patent laws, don't exist purely to "benefit smaller creators", but he keeps emphasizing that for some reason.
Will that horrible version of the first Resident Evil's basement theme get you a strike? I doubt Capcom wants to remember that one.
0 likesFor those unaware, the song shows up as a result if you look up clowns farting in a basement on Youtube. I'm not joking. Try it.
save it download it before youtube takes it down we need this people
0 likesInb4 you get copyclaimed by Trent Reznor for sampling his album name.
2 likes* Notice illegal use of song *
1 likeYar - Har - fiddle - dee-dee
being a pirate is all right with me!
do what you want'cause a pirate is free
you are a pirate!
: ) thanks Viacom, Disney, Warner media I'm bad wih buying my songs anyway lick my boots
See, this is why the internet needs to band together to buy an island and create internet-land where laws make sense.
0 likes10:35 really bad idea to have been eating a cheeseburger when watching this
0 likesThe downward spiral is
0 likesA C C E L E R A T I N G
Society has abonded us
2 likesHonestly, Susan, just have emp run YouTube.
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this isn't even a problem just with youtube.
0 likesEven if everyone moved to different site, it would only delay the law, not fix it.
Emp, my father is a scientific illustrator, who has had his work stolen literally thousands of times to be sold on goods. Also, he will license his artwork for basically anyone for a pretty small cost.
2 likesIn my opinion, that is where copyright law works. Independent artists that have their work stolen. Like, someone on RedBubble just taking his art, putting it on a T-Shirt, and selling it. These sites just let you download an image from a University and upload it to any of these merch sites and acting as if they own it. Some of them sell straight up prints which he sells directly, shipping everything himself. He singlehandedly took on some of these MAJOR shit sites, if you like I could give you some great secondhand experience.
Now, music and video is a different experience 8n my opinion, basically share your opinions on it. I think copyright should be life of the artist, or life of the artist +15 years. What Disney pushed it to is insanity.
can't a eastern country create their own youtube with their own copyright laws,i'm assuming no company in the east is capable of this without blasting their bollywood crap every where.
0 likesAnd I thought my jokes were bad...
0 likesThese companies don't understand that using a 5 second clip of a Shrek movie actually PROMOTES the show by showing a large audience, but then again boomers don't understand the internet.
2 likesNO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GONNA STOP ME-sonic the hedgehog
0 likesCan't wait for this video to get claimed
0 likes4 Actually punish companies and individuals with a fine to pay if they manually claim content wrongfully in a maliciously way but one can only dream
0 likesat least you can use charlie chaplin's the pilgrim. So thats good, I guess...
0 likesSomebody quick write the entire clown song in Morse code
0 likesIm glad Virginia is about to start the boogaloo
0 likesGet a load of this society
0 likesUpcoming soon: Coppa and Harassment Strike Guidelines
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That's the real problem as well...
0 likesdownload this video before it is taken down for bullying
0 likesDisney: Our Animation will fall under the Public Domain in Forever + 1 year.
0 likesI respect the Thick as a Brick in the background.
0 likesSo.. was it really published in 1893?
0 likesEmplemon goes joker mode
0 likesI'm sorry but that Star_ whatamigonnaget thumbnail at around 9:40 made me a little emotional. I miss those days of YouTube.
0 likesWhat about Weird Al song Parodies? Oh wait, Copyright, asking for permission from the music companies and the Artist who made the song and paying license fees
0 likesThat chiptune gary glitter is choice 👌
0 likesYou might not break copyright law becuase you hate media and want them to lose money- but I do. Eat my shorts Disney. I'm not going to pay you to watch Recess when I can watch all the 480p content I want.
0 likesMe: Happpy Birth-
0 likesCorporate Corperations: YOU JUST GOT FINED 43897539543782574 DOLLARS FOR USING A 126 YEAR OLD SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Hey, things aren't all bad. We may not be able to use or even say St*r W*rs, but at least we have W I N T E R S T O R M Q I N U O A
1 likeDon't think I don't hear that Jethro Tull, you handsome son of a bitch <3
0 likesI can recognize the Seinfeld theme
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hi Miguel. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeeeee!!
0 likesHm it's almost as if capitalism tends to breed monopoly
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Lmao corporations literally lobbied to PREVENT capitalism and somehow it's capitalism's fault.
1 likeRemember vid.me? I think it's the best time for their comeback.
0 likesI hate that YT's garbage system has made me a little afraid to give this a like, because even with the huge amount of work EmpLemon put into making all of this great video safe from copyright claims there's still a good chance some dickwad copyright holder will claim it if it gets too much attention and they can find a sliver of a sliver of their prized material in it. When I feel like giving a video a like is helping push the creator's head above the trench and put them in the line of fire, you know things are completely broken and ass-backwards.
0 likesSponsorblock addon people...use it.
0 likesWhy is “let’s go band” playing in the background?
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hi edward. wel like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeee!!!!!
0 likeswhy do you feel entitled to profit off of someone else's work?
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You didn't watch the video.
0 likes@Titanium Rain yes i did, actually.
1 like@Ellis Watanabe Then you saw the part where he said he wasn't opposed to people protecting their content.
0 likesYou saw the part where he said he was willing to share the profits of his work in proportion to the works he used, rather than lose 100% of his revenue.
Then you heard where the system was only supposed to protect content for 14 years plus 14 years extension but the law was changed by Disney lobbyists.
You also heard the part where the current enforcers of the copyright system MADE BILLIONS by profiting off someone else's work.
And you also heard the part where the draws a clear distinction between using someone else's work for profit and actually creating new and original content.
Kinda spounding like Kropotkin my dude
0 likes10:37 screw you EmpLemon
0 likes[This video has been removed for harrassment]
0 likesJethro Tull, great taste friend
1 likeEMPLemon: Hey U.S gov, how broken it your copyright system?
1 likeU.S gov: Yes.
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hi remove. we like fortnite! we like fortniteeeeeee
0 likesS O C I E T Y
0 likesstr8 up facts
0 likesRemember when there was like just a video of a zoo on this site lol
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no
0 likes@Hatster it was actually the first video on YouTube
0 likes@Mr aljfri i know
0 likes@Hatster just making sure you don't forget
0 likesI was just thinking about you emp
0 likesJust upload on a porn site. You can get monetized there, no?
0 likesnow i know why the Simpsons are green
0 likes1:23 Dog the Clown Hunter
0 likesemplemon on game end watch
0 likesI’m sorry but the ridge wallet is a scam, there were alibaba products exactly the same, even before the ridge wallet
0 likesThis is just sad
0 likesWhat's the solution then? Should artists keep what they make un-copywritten so that there's no legal issues, or should they copywrite their material so that no one else can and then not enforce it?
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Change the law?
0 likes@Titanium Rain I mean, yes, but until then what do we do?
0 likes@Jabroni Toni well, the second alternative then. Because we no longer depend on record labels for distribution then unsigned artists should group and create a label for the single purpose of copyrighting content and now allowing the big companies to take it for themselves.
1 likeI remember Trent Reznor created his own record label because of his disputes with conventional labels and he's the one who signed Lil Nas X.
@Titanium Rain So independent artists need to make their own companies and labels to avoid getting screwed over?
0 likes@Jabroni Toni Well, all mainstream labels screw artists over. I think a good talk on this topic is Billy Cougan of Smashing Pumpkins on the Joe Rogan podcast, but a lot of other artists have exposed the reality of business on other shows. Essentially you make a deal with the labels for exposure and better sales. But the deal forces you to make your recordings at a label-owned studio and they'll charge you absurd amounts of money for studio time. We might be talking about values that can go up to 200k dollars to get an album done. And they end up taking a lot of the record sales so you barely see any money.
1 like@Titanium Rain Holy hell that's awful
0 likesWhy isn't floyd public donain?
1 likecool video but prohibition worked
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In what parallel universe do you live?
0 likes@Zero Black
0 likes"First, the regime created in 1919 by the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act, which charged the Treasury Department with enforcement of the new restrictions, was far from all-embracing. The amendment prohibited the commercial manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages; it did not prohibit use, nor production for one’s own consumption. Moreover, the provisions did not take effect until a year after passage -plenty of time for people to stockpile supplies.
Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.
Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.
Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition’s 14 year rule. Organized crime may have become more visible and lurid during Prohibition, but it existed before and after.
Fourth, following the repeal of Prohibition, alcohol consumption increased. Today, alcohol is estimated to be the cause of more than 23,000 motor vehicle deaths and is implicated in more than half of the nation’s 20,000 homicides. In contrast, drugs have not yet been persuasively linked to highway fatalities and are believed to account for 10 percent to 20 percent of homicides.
Prohibition did not end alcohol use. What is remarkable, however, is that a relatively narrow political movement, relying on a relatively weak set of statutes, succeeded in reducing, by one-third, the consumption of a drug that had wide historical and popular sanction."
Harvard Proffesor Mark H. Moore
There is a lot of evidence showing it worked but you will continue to be a slave to liberalism
@Pranav Rao Ok, first of all. I am not denying historical evidence. I just asked because the prohibition lasted as long as a fart. And if i am an slave to liberalism, i have news for you. We are in the same boat.
0 likesZero Black Just because it didnt last long doesnt mean it wasnt effective lol. It was gotten rid of as an extreme reaction to the situation at the time. Policy can be good and be revoked in a short period of time. Rail infrastructure is a great example of this.
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That rusty cage song is mumky jones
0 likesEmp irl!!
0 likesCopyright Evil 9 3rd Impression
0 likesDownward Spiral
0 likesWeird flex but ok
0 likesFace revail?!
0 likestake me back.
0 likesDude you know Abelard? Hope that at least someone knows his music!
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I like his aspartame remix
0 likesEdit: I was thinking of the wrong person so nvm but I do love Seinwave
@i don't check my notifications you should check the lp 'Meta Valley' from hin. Pure gold i trink.
0 likesRusty cages background music, don't you mean mumkeys background music
0 likesBut muh brand!!!
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesGERIATRIC TURBO BOOMERS
0 likeslmao just like susan is a joke
0 likesThe masiah is back
0 likesSociety
0 likesDid you and mum- I mean Jimmy make up
0 likesYou sounded like Mumkey Jones.
0 likesOnly three weeks let’s go
0 likesYouTube
0 likesBroadcast Jimmy
Is this a nerd city video
1 likeYour face reveal is a joke...
0 likesEMI - Sex Pistols
0 likesWanna know how I got these scars?
0 likesIts mumkeys song tho
1 like10:56
0 likesclown business
0 likesDownwardspiral
0 likesDid this get copyrighted?
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No
0 likesGood
0 likesCut out what does not suit for children, and then cut out what suits children... What is left? Your mama.
0 likes*J Dilla enters the chat.
0 likes21:27
0 likesjust commenting for the algorithm
0 likesA very unfunny joke
0 likesДа закони про атрсний права юутби устрили и не удбний ужсно
0 likesthis video makes me angry
0 likesHi JOD we like fortnite!! We like fortnite!!
0 likesIdk sounds kinda communist to me
0 likesHenry in de wall
1 likeHow he gonna express himself
Let’s see what happens in 2023
0 likesdance, monkey, dance.
0 likesAight then.
1 likecovers aren't samples
0 likesat this point, what the fuck is the reason for Public Domain to exist.
0 likesHey. Humpty Dumpty ain't crap yo
0 likesAND ANOTHER ONE!
0 likesBro I just got an ad
0 likes15:03 wtf
1 likeIf you ran for president or Congress I would vote for yoi
0 likestrue
0 likes🏴☠️ is based
0 likesIndeed
0 likesHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I'm the JOKER BABy h89wrapt!! SanaiAOih Sanity 100
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What a Great Video!
1 likeposting a vrchat picture as today LEL
1 likebommers hate him
0 likesOh cool new video
0 likesfreakin susan man
0 likesGo gators
0 likesWas IB worth it
0 likes13:29 Any copyright legislation that gives protection a single second after the creator's death was bad regardless of era. The heirs of J. R. R. Tolkien and everyone else should take their hands out of our pockets and get jobs.
2 likesHey man, the amount of work you put into these videos really shows. Keep up the good work.
0 likesAlthough I already immensely respect Emp. He has just somehow earned even more respect from me.
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hi Vulgar. we like fortniteeee! we like fortntiteeeeeeee!!!!
0 likesOh, not you again...
0 likesYour analysis on Youtube keeps on getting better man. Tbh you probably make the best content I watch, so cheers!
1 likeA good video as always. Keep up the good work Emp.
0 likesThis is one of the most important videos I've ever watched, it needs to blow up.
1 likeWhenever i would see stuff ive made reposted i have never gotten pissed of because of copy right bullshit, ive always been so excited by it cause its really cool that epoople would like my stuff like that!
1 like18:01
2 likesthis idea sounds good in theory but then I think the videos of straight up ripped footage would just be hours long, contain like 10 or 20 minutes of copyrighted footage and so the uploader would still get a large portion of the revenue
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I hadn't even thought about that. I suppose the only way to truly circumvent that would be to have a system of manual review so that people could watch the videos and determine whether or not it's fair use and then... we'd be right back at square one because every video would just get fully claimed anyways like it is now... yeah I don't know how one would get around that honestly. You bring up a really good point. Even if they were to institute a system to judge whether or not the non-copyrighted portions of the video are actually "content", it would just bring upon a new gray area of what is really considered "content" and what's not. Solid counterargument.
1 likeReally Good Editing and Sound Design Emp.
0 likesKeep it up.
Awwwwwwwwww yeah, more EmpLemon time and his downward spiral. If the world and the platform are about to end, I'd have no one else I'd rather watch
1 likeThis was a great video. Love you emp
0 likesYoutube: That's how the law works
2 likesEmplemon: Am I a joke to you!?
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hi gio. we like fortniteeee! we like fortntiteeeee!!!
0 likesArticle 13 makes no sense !
2 likesIn the recent past months a proposal was made to the EU called article 13 in order to solve issues connected with copyright on the internet.This bill recently passed and has made many on the internet speak out about why the bill won’t work as they intended it to.
Firstly, the intent of article 13 is clear however it will not work for many reasons. Article 13 is newly passed law that will take effect around 2021 and what it essentially says is that responsibility of copyright does not fall on the user rather the company the user uploads content on the site to deal with it. Which is meant to solve the issue of copyright not always being dealt with and that stricter rules is needed as companies have been “slouching” around not dealing with the issue.
To put this into perspektiv if you uploaded something that is copyrighted often it would fall on you the user that uploaded that copyrighted content on the site therefore, you get the consequences small or big (for ex. banning an account or being sued). However, when the law goes into effect, it will be the company's responsibility to respond to this and solve it or get the consequences. Due to how complicated the issue is though a simple bill will not really solve the “slouching” of companies working on copyright.
This is extremely harsh and makes little to no sense when you look at the pros and cons. What the EU is asking for is an impossible task in which problems do not get solved by individuals rather a group of finite workers to solve every individual’s copyright problem on their site. A site which will contain millions of users daily and can upload as much as they want any day to be solved by a big company is even a stretch by far.
What these companies will essentially have to rely on is bots that can detect whether the material is copyright infringed or not. Which sounds ok at first but because bots infamous history with taking care of copyrighted material not many consider them even to be a viable option. Not to mention that the best bots against copyright at the moment are mostly from Google and that would essentially force other companies to buy their bots or suddenly develop bots Google could not even perfect after many years. This is not even mentioning the smaller companies which won't be able to afford any of these options. However in the end these bots will be used and do the standard check up on content which can’t discern many things.
In a blog post Ceo of Youtube Susan Wojcicki urges people to protest and writes that
“Article 13 as written threatens to shut down the ability of millions of people -- from creators like you to everyday users”
She later on, goes deeper into the conquenes and explanation as to why this will happen but the point is that even the largest tech companies have trouble with handling the situation. This could mean that it’s the tech companies fault for not handling the situation in which even one of the Proponents states
“the legislation is necessary to protect fair pay for creators, and that major tech platforms have been able to skirt responsibility for too long”.
Well if companies have been “skirting” the problem for too long, then this does make sense in a way. It is already a law in many countries not steal copyrighted content and, the artist and people mostly sign up on these sites expecting to be protected from people stealing their content in the agreements these sites have. Thus what article 13 wants is licenses to these people who upload the content, and if another person doesn't have the license to the content he should not be able to upload that content, to begin with. What article 13 is merely doing is shifting the responsibility to companies so that they can or get more productive in protecting the people’s content which they should have done, to begin with. Companies are being given time to accommodate for the sudden change as well from “skirting” around to much.
Article 13 will help not only small individual content but also protect giant companies making it safer to upload their content on to a site to get the revenue or adds etc. which they deserve. Also something that the law mentions is that modified content such as parodies, memes, reviews, educational purposes or some kind of remake of that content even though they might be similar is allowed. So essentially only the people who completely rip off that said content will be punished and those that change it up “enough” won't be. So the bill in the end won’t really punish anyone who follows the guidelines and will make it safer for does who do small creator or big.
The fact of the matter is that article 13 is trying to tackle a complex and hard question and then just leaving it at that almost as if the solution is really simple.
You might even say that the people behind the law have no idea or understanding of the effects and aren’t so much as worried about how the law will be followed rather that on paper it protects content and that they have made the exceptions in the law.
The Guardian (2019) states that
“Supporters argue that the laws even the playing field between large internet firms and traditional publishers, while opponents warn that the legislation risks creating an unfeasibly high barrier to publishing anything online, which will ultimately harm freedom of expression on the internet.”
It really does seem like the people voting for the law where really only looking at the small picture while others were looking at the big picture.
In a article by Communia (2019) they state
“On Tuesday this week a group of more than 70 people who have played important roles in building the internet and developing it into the vibrant cultural space that it is today came out with an open letter addressed to the members of the European Parliament. Tim Berners-Lee, Vincent Cerf, Mitchell Baker, Jimmy Wales and 70 others write:”
The things that were previously stated are not only from people with basic understanding of the internet it’s also things being told by real professionals within this area.
However members of the EU are not professionals and don’t have as many connections to the internet as the average person in the tech industry.
In the EU parliament which is incredibly complex there are multiple jobs there but it is not perfect many would say.
One thing some say the EU did bad in was not informing about the pros and cons of this law well. There are essentially four big groups in the EU but the focus will be on the EU commision.
From the EU official site Epso they state here how it works very shortly.
“The European Commission is the EU's executive arm. It is alone responsible for drawing up proposals for new European legislation, and it implements the decisions of the European Parliament and the Council of the EU.”
What is good to know is that the EU commission are not a direct representative of a country rather a group of people from european countries representing EU itself. So what they do is not on behalf of a country rather than themselves. We the people merely influence the EU parliament which are direct representatives of our country to vote on what is proposed. This process is incredibly indirect (because of this many argue that EU is not democratic enough) and creates the problem previously said which is people not getting the big picture, all the pros and cons etc. So due to indirekt process of voting and inferior knowledge on the bills consequences results in somewhat of a misinformation or little information being said.
However there has been opposition towards this law but only to fail for it to be debated any further with others in the Parliament. This can just be because they’ve already made up their minds and do not think there is much to add in the debate as also there is not much of a stake for these people etc. There are even more consequences to add to this bill passing such as that people will just start to use vpn and switch their location to view what they want to see (making tracing for ex. hackers harder), it will change the way other countries across the world will view content, it will make the internet in general less free and very restricting. This is a law that will help the minority such as music artists, big social media companies and hinder the majority who merely wants to enjoy the content or using the content for other “good” reasons. What is needed then would be petitions and votes to debate article 13 more and get a better understanding of the bill.
Thus we can conclude that this law need a change, at its core, is fundamentally broken and can not be implemented in this day and age with these astronomical cons at least compared to the pros. If someone can prove that the pros can overcome the cons and that the law can be implemented as of year 2021 many would very much like to hear it.
The first three minutes of this video has got to be some of the best content I have ever seen
0 likesStill only halfway through, but damn, this is really fascinating - The music industry really needs a taste of reality!
0 likesEvery time I see emp I just think of the end of sextravaganza. He has changed so much since then. Not in a bad way, it’s just so surreal to see him now.
1 likeEmplemon my freind, you are man of speech and that is a wonderful thing.
0 likesBut be careful with you power, you might just get what you wish for ;)
Really rooting for you!
Remixing has always been a massive part of our culture. For a relatable example, imagine if video game mechanics could be copyrighted.
0 likesImagine if any 2D platformer was forced to pay royalties to Nintendo for "licencing mario-style mechanics"
(And yes I know that mario's physics were directly inspired by Miner 2049-er but like a lot of similar situations Nintendo (A big corporation who ripped their ideas from somewhere else) could probably either successfully defend themselves or buy the original source with all the money they made "infringing on it's mechanics")
Great video man keep up the great content
0 likesYoutube will never leave its never ending downward spiral
1 likeThe downward spiral of YouTube has officially begun
1 likeIf another website that runs the same as youtube ever takes off, you bet my ass im jumping off this ship
1 likeyour series has a very good political analysis hidden under the deluge of memes. enjoyed it a lot. I honestly see no hope for this though. there is too much moneyed interest for copyright to be changed and it will always be under assault to become stronger.
0 likesDamn, I didn't know we were already living in The Outer Worlds. It just came 300 years sooner and without any cool space exploration.
1 likeThe question is can EMP and others explain to these people the problems.
0 likesLike become a MP to change the law. The whole internet would back you.
amazing work
0 likesthis video is so spot on
I will go to the record store! That way, I'll MOCK modern pop music.
0 likesNot to mention, I'll bring a Jolly Rodger.
we're living in a new monopoly. A monopoly on entertainment.
0 likesFelix has certainly been on a
1 likeDownward
Spiral
Wouldn't you say
Love your content Emp
0 likesLets get a beer lol😊👍
In conclusion, copyright laws are hypocritical
1 likeThe joker theme of YouTube truely belongs the you. You've earned those scars
0 likesI still buy CDs, pay for movies, and buy games. Paid distribution is still legitimate, but fair use has always been, too. This has always been the problem of basing legality on semantics and interpretation of unexhaustive written laws, and always will be. Just because you can technically interpret a law to prevent someone from deriving creativity from the roots of another work doesn't legitimize doing so, just like technically saying pirating is for private use doesn't legitimize sidestepping someone selling art.
0 likesEmperor Lemon for President
0 likesI always ask myself why these mega corporations even hoard all that money. By owning like 90% of the entertainment you make more money than all of the employees could spend in a lifetime. What are they even doing with all that money. It's all so pointless. Why do i have that weird thought in my head that all this current dysfunction of our society is one big joke and it'll all collapse soon.
0 likesImagine being so greedy for money you're willing to cripple the advancement of culture
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The counterargument for this would be, "imagine being so lacking in wealth that you care about the advancement of culture by other poor people"
0 likesIdek, I just can't see how that justifies what's been done.
Just tell them that their Minion Memes will go bye bye if they continue with this style of Copyright. That'll get them off their asses.
0 likesBetter watch it before Youtube takes it down!
0 likesSeinwave started playing and I fucking SCREAMED, "YES!!" out loud in my room. LMAO
0 likesSomebody needs to put a boot on the neck of corporate power.
0 likesholy fuck that ridge ad had me in tears
2 likescopyright: we like to protect content creators from misuse and stealing.
1 likealso copyright: EXCUSE ME DID YOU USE .1 SECOND OF YOUR SONG THAT WE OWN THE RIGHTS TO? MONEYYYYYYYYYYY!
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lol it's not like the government makes direct money off of any of this. It's just made for morals' sake, despite not being very moral right now. They kinda screwed themselves over as they gave too much to large corporations and now corporations run the U.S. Oops, I guess.
0 likesProhibition has never worked. Period.
0 likesCan't believe we finally got an Emplemon facepaint reveal
0 likesTruth is, game was rigged from the start.
0 likesWe live in a society that’s currently in a downward spiral and at the end of this spiral is the sweet release of death
0 likesexcellent content im glad im not alone.
0 likeslaws should serve the people not vice versa - let's overthrow this BS #takeadumponthemilleniumcopyrightlaw
0 likesImagine someone go to jail for singing happy birthday song
0 likesThe happy birthday one WAS true but some smart people found the origins (very fuckin old) and is now copyright
0 likesCopyright: Am I a joke to you
0 likesYouTube: Well... no but technically yes
Me: YES!
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hello joe. we like fortnite! we like fortniteeee!!!!!
0 likesAbout hip hop, danny brown got like 70k in debt from samples for making atrocity exhibition, and it's probably one of the greatest rap albums... ever really lol
0 likesWasn’t there a video that was completely silent that got copyright claimed?
1 likeEmp is literally a God
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Religion is subjective
0 likesBut yea
Intellectual Property one of the biggest lies on the planet. The idea that one can actually own an idea or narrative is completely foolish. One may argue that the exclusive right to profit from an idea or narrative should be established that authors might have more reason to create things, but you must understand that even if such an institution is established, these rights are entirely manufactured and are in no way inherant, they are created for their use and the point at which they stop being useful to society is the point at which they stop having any valid existance.
0 likesYou and itsagundam should do a review of the ridge wallet together.
0 likesPirate PSA: Intellectual property is not property.
0 likeswe live in a copyrighted society
0 likesNow this is the real YouTube Rewind
0 likesEmp is on the upward spiral
0 likesTime to break the "Law" boiiisss
0 likesCommunity: Let us create what we want
0 likesYouTube: No, I don't think I will
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lol copyright stuff isn't necessarily youtubes fault even though they play an extremely important role
1 likeCrazy times we live in eh?
0 likesEveytime I watch a Emp video I always wonder why the simpsons are green 😂 so random it’s funny to me
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He does it so he doesn't get claimed.
0 likesHatster that’s smart
0 likesRemember kids: Pirate your media
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amen.
1 likeUnless you can reasonably afford it. Then don't that's kinda scummy to smaller creators.
@Hatster oh no always support the independent creators.
2 likes@Joe exactly
1 likerusty cage background music should be the standart for all youtubers lmfao
0 likesYou always have at least 1 song that I've played in my band. Are you stalking me?
1 likeWe're this close to jumping ship from this goddamn website
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hi sino. wel ikef ortnitteeee! we likef ortnittteeee!
0 likesThe ultimate culmination of Youtube copyright law is Pooh's Adventures.
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Eyy, it's you!
0 likesI wanna go back to 2009 or 2011. I litterally dedicated my life to become a Youtuber since i was 5. Im so done WITH YOUTUBES SHIT
0 likesCopystrike law is unconstitutional because the punishment is cruel and unusual (not to mention disproportionate and unnecessary.) Charging someone all of their Adsense for a video because of 5 seconds is against everything American!
0 likesSend this video to your Representatives in Congress
0 likesThe Wild, Wild West of the internet is far from over
0 likesDESTROY COPYRIGHT
0 likes>Uses supreme as an example for copyright
0 likes>Supreme is currently battling itself (sumpreme america vs sumpreme italia)
the jethro tull midi made my day
0 likesNever understood until I started making YTP's
0 likesImagine how much it would suck if McDonalds copyrighted burgers, or KFC copyrighted Fried Chicken.
0 likesThicc as a Bricc
1 likeYou sir, have some truly high taste
How can we possibly make a change?
0 likesWe truly live in h̶e̶l̶l̶ a society
2 likesAh yes, I also prefer Publix Cola
0 likesI WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS?
0 likesThis is epic
0 likesmy mans is the hero Jacksonville Florida Deserves
0 likesThis is why everyone should support term limits. Not only does it give a chance for younger politicians, it culls the career politicians that have been in office for 30+ years, and destroys the vast reach lobbies have in US politics.
0 likesSo was this a part face reveal too?
0 likesreasonable law.
0 likesCouldn't be Said Better.
1 likeI got a stadia ad during this video.
0 likesSociety hurts man...
Yeaaah! I new video, I already know I am going to love it.
0 likesAaaaaaand iDubbbbz' Content Cop on Leafy was taken down. This website is truly the worst.
0 likesActually the Happy birthday song is now a public domain
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Something tells me that people are still going to copyright claim it anyway.
0 likesMay I offer you an egg in these trying times?
0 likes14:30 Xi has full control over those tanks.
1 likeMr Emp Lemon my mom says you are my biological father please become a part of my life dad
0 likesHey EmpLemon, can you do another colab with mumkey jones or mysterious mr enter.
0 likesthis is a good video
0 likesHey a new emplemon video
1 like10 second in.
He lost it.
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He's been lost it.
0 likesEmp is becoming the Joker.
0 likesYou completly lost it, isn't it?
0 likesBest ad ive ever seen.
0 likestop tier quality
0 likesNice Phineas Gage reference
0 likesD O W N W A R D S P I R A L
1 likescrolls down to see if the video is copyrighted
0 likesWe live in a society©℗®™.
0 likesI saw the Drake and Josh ytp collab was taken down by Viacom again :/
0 likesyour best video since dale earnhart
0 likesWait, there's a BOTTOM to the downward spiral?
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Rock bottom son
0 likesProblems with copyright:
0 likes-last too long, most copyrighted materials such as abandonware (old video games that no longer supported) and other old works that many companies cease enforcing them but in law, still protected. Users had to download ROMs to preserve and play them which is illegal. Nintendo is at war against this, rendering these old games as a “limited time availability”. That’s right, users are FORCED to sail the high seas if they want to play them, not to mention, region locks and licensing. There’s no legal way to obtain them.
-it restricts more than just copying, EULAs and DRM are fucking trash. Jhon deere is one example to stop farmers from repairing their tractors. Lets not forget about sony BMG and flightsimlabs going vigilante on their software.
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If you don't enforce your copyright, you lose it. That's part of the reason these corporations hunt it so aggressively.
0 likesRex Umbra anti-piracy, more like anti-consumer in the world of Corporatism.
0 likesMany of these works have a commercial lifespan of 5-20 years. But by default, last way longer than that. The original form of copyright was that to continue its legal protection, renewal is required every 20 years. If the holder dies, the remaining copyright cannot be extended.
0 likes@GHB dude, I never said i supported anti piracy, just pointing out that the law forces corporations to act that to protect their ip. Now eula's and drm are different matter. The us military is even negatively impacted by that, so hopefully right to repair and such can be pushed on that front
0 likesRex Umbra agreed, saw on techdirt that companies are now exploiting people that protect America.
0 likesNo, all copyright law is wrong. It is a direct violation of freedom of expression. The thing that should keep corporations from stealing ideas and stopping bootleggers is the thing you least want to hear; YOU! This wouldn't be a problem if people practiced their principles. Sucks to be a massive hypocrite I guess but it doesn't make copyright any more moral. No information should be illegal.
1 likeCopyright claim your own YouTube videos using bad music in your end credits using amuse to avoid copyright
0 likesGame Awards copyrighting claiming themselves
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vary interesting
0 likespaying for content ? me and my bros use torrent
0 likesCouldn't Disney renew Micky's copyright?
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I don't understand but maybe it has to do with the original creators of Steamboat Willie being dead and copyright could only be written for them maybe??? So Disney just extend the years after death as a loophole. But then Emp said something got taken out of the public domain here. I really don't understand.
0 likesSend in the spiral
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIIIRRRAAAAL!!!
2 likesThe downward spiral truley never ends, COPPA
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I meant kappa
0 likes@Spaztic Gallade Classic!
0 likesHow dose this vid have adds??
0 likesWhy are we still here. Just to suffer?
1 likeaaaaaaaaannnd emp has fucking lost it
0 likesAll you ever do is C O M P L A I N
2 likesYo ho
0 likesYo ho
A pirate's life for me
It's never Oger.
2 likeslisten this video is really good but tone it down a little with the gangweed society ok boomer memes
0 likesalthough if this video was made a few months ago then its understandable
It's never ogre.
0 likesIs that the UF Gainesville stadium?
0 likesCopyright: Am I a joke to you?!
0 likesEmplemon: Most likely
is that thick as a brick in the background? Fitting
1 likeYARRRRRRRR, come on mate lets ride the high seas
0 likesPatents suck for the little guy too.
0 likesWho do you think it was made for.
Emp is a Libertarian.
0 likesWelcome to 1984 bois
0 likesYouTube copyright is cringey
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesHappy birthday song is public domain again. Your video is fake news lol.
1 likeI have HHHAAAADDD it
0 likesI am the law
0 likesBINGO.
0 likesThis video is just a ad for joker tbh
0 likesWhy would you put makeup in your eyeball though.
2 likesAll you ever do is complain
1 likemelvin brother of the joker
0 likesWhy is the Red Team Orange?
0 likesCan not wait for modern society to fall
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Can't wait for a human purge!
0 likesBoi im glad i dont live in america,
0 likesClooownniest of worldssss
0 likesaw hell yea
0 likesdownward dspiral
0 likesLast time I was this early I wasn't funny!
0 likesI'm still not
joke
1 likewe we we liiiiive in a sooocietiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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11:03
0 likes3 weeks ago and i did not get notified by this
0 likesgo gators
0 likes7:44 Sam o nela
0 likesthat's mumky Jones song not rusty cage
0 likesDID NOT GET NOTIFIED. GOOD.
0 likesEmp. If you move over to BitChute or some other alternative platform I will support you.
0 likesReddit...
1 likeI say it should be if you make it you own it until you don't want it anymore
0 likesBesides just make an original song
That was fast
0 likesYou sound like jack Nicholson joker
0 likesFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way...........
0 likesThis video will be gone soon
0 likesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ADSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
0 likesSo then why don't you take a stand and use BitChute instead?
0 likesSo handsome
0 likeswhy are the joker green?
0 likesBam bam
0 likesbro t hhat was kindof cringe ngl.
1 likewho is the official creator of 'DISNEYS TMMTTMTMTMTMTMTMTM FORZEN TMTMTMTMTTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTM 2TMTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTMTM' When will they Die ? When will it become public domain?
1 likehow is the clown song copyrighted
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The composition is public domain, but recordings of public domain songs can still be copyrighted.
0 likesHello fellow clown
0 likesYou look like tommy wiseau
0 likesI am angry
1 likefrying dory
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0 likesSomg name at the start?
0 likesKafkaesque AF
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0 likesmumbo
0 likesAre you Jumkey?
0 likesless than an hour in and there is allready 400 comments what
0 likesI THOUGHT ID CLEAR THIS UP. u said less than a tenth of a percent. yet the graph said .2% which is twice a tenth of a percent. PROBLEM SOLVED YW IN ADVANCE
0 likesHooooly shit
1 likeHour in gang
0 likesHere's my two cents: I agree with most of your points, but I think that copyright should last forever. (not sure if disney got their 1 day before infinity thing) Let me explain why before people get mad. If fair use worked, you could use scenes for quick jokes as long as they weren't over-extended. People would also be able to draw inspiration from other works. Those are your main points in my eyes. Let's say you are dead or your copyright expires. Without infinite copyright, what is stopping someone from saying lol I made this or lol i copy pasted this games files now pay me i made this game. Now using characters for parodies and stuff is fine but using characters and not the template and traits of the characters in another tv show or movies doesn't seem to be fair use. If fair use worked then copyright should last forever cus like if I owned stuff I would be perfectly fine with people doing stuff like you do but then it would also stop from someone eventually just saying lol I want this so ima just say it mine or lmao ima take his code and essentially copy paste it. I agree that rn fair use is broken but I hope you can see the message I am trying to convey.
0 likesHaja joker is... clown
0 likesFuny downward spiral is funny
0 likesthe guy who said that comment had a fkn point u just chose to focus on the part that says reasonable laws
0 likeswhy are they greeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
0 likesIs Nice
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1 likeWake up
0 likesare you actually funke?
0 likesWas literally watching Part 1 of this when I got the notification. Good job Emp!
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hello nich. we like fortniteeee! we like fortniteeee!!!!
0 likesGreat work as always, Emp! You're the best!
0 likesKeep up the good work emp!
0 likesthat feeling when your day is fucking saved by the release of a new emplemon video
0 likesAlready a fucking great intro, Emp!
0 likesIn conclusion that’s how the law works
1 likeThat's how the law works...
0 likesDownward Spiral? More like Downward Society
2 likesWe live in a YTP Society
0 likesAll I can see is dust and gray
0 likesThe towers collapsed
But the worst thing that happened is my videos got claimed
Can this day get any worse
Since when was YouTube fair?
0 likesAh, a new episode of the Downward Spiral World Tour
1 likeThis society is madness
0 likesWell shit, this came sooner than I'd expected.
0 likesThats how the Mafia works
0 likesLove u lemon u fucking legend
0 likesI love you and your content too
0 likesa new video so shortly after the latest? What's this, christmas?!
1 likeThe site is trash but where else are we going to go lmao
1 likeInb4 this gets a copyright strike.
2 likesNice, been waiting for this
0 likesThankyou @mr.emp very cool
0 likesWill be making a Locals.com platform? Seems like it would be perfect for you
0 likesCopyright strike time
1 like「I M P E N D I N G D O O M A R R I V E S」
0 likesBut seriously though, I kinda wish we could find a different video platform, but I don't think it would work unless everyone migrated to that site. People are like "Hey guys, YouTube SUCKS! Let's move to [insert site here]!" but it never works because all of the popular YouTubers never move to those alternative sites because they're comfy with their current money grabbing scheme.
I am fast enough to doge the copyright claims
0 likesWe live in a downward spiral
0 likesThis video is getting struck and you know it.
0 likesNah I just agree with your opinions I don't just wanna hear you complai
0 likesAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PLEASE MAKE MORE YOUTUBE POOPS! I LOVE THE FUNNY EDITS AND LOUD NOIESS!!!!!!!!! AHAHGAHHAH SO FUNYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesWas the live action part à face reveal
0 likesOH MY GOD MAKE IT STOP
0 likesYes another video in the spiral
0 likesWe YouTube in a Poop.
0 likesYouTube. Broadcast Yourself.
0 likesMy life is a downward spiral
0 likesguys, I’m thinking that this is epic.
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1 likeT h a t s h o w t h e l a w w o r k s
1 likeCopyright deez nuts haha
1 likePlease before someone take it from us
Emplemon god
0 likesTime to contemplate deleting my channel
0 likesWOWIE ZOWITE ANOTHER EMPLEMOM VIDEO THE ONLY THING I LIKE MORE THAN EMPLEMON IS BUBBLEYUMDUCK GO TO r/BubbleYumDuck FOR MORE
0 likesSend in the clowns
0 likesThat's tough
0 likesEmp has returned
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The downward spiral has returned!
0 likesAre you gonna make another never ever and if you do what about
0 likesHell yea
0 likesInsert reddit meme
0 likesUpward Spiral
1 likeNew idea of never ever maybe Eric Andre
0 likesOmg face reveal
0 likesWas this a face reveal??? 0.o
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Yep
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0 likesSpiral man?
1 likeWanna hear a joke, Murray?
0 likess o c i e t y .
0 likesCopyright Law ain't the only joke!
0 likesFTC and COPPA are jokes too!
#StopCOPPA
T H A T ‘ S
2 likesH O W
T H E
L A W
W O R K S
omg joker!!!!
0 likesYES
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1 likeWhere is frying dory tho. Dead joke but I don't care.
0 likesDiscord gang
0 likesBut I hate joker
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Dude do you live in gainesville???
0 likesHi JodIsHere. We like fortnite we like fortnite!
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0 likeslol
0 likesThis is not specifically about this video but why do you hate corporations
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So much I forgot to say
0 likesHe used to belong to the YouTube Poop comunity, and Viacom, WB and other shitty companies constantly copyright claimed his videos while they were clearly protected by fair use. And thats something he still suffers today.
0 likesi hate it here
0 likesYo is my boy from Gainesville FL?
0 likeswtf
0 likeswait ya live in Gainesville???
0 likesascended 5 anyone?
0 likesOk ? 15:07
0 likesLennon
1 likeOh my god stop trying to be funny just talk about the stuff @aaaaa
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0 likesfakeDoes anyone like fortnite around here?
1 likeHa deez nutz
0 likeswhat the dog doin on the train cart 11:42
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1 likejay oh oh ess.
0 likesyou tubestinks
0 likesEmplemon complains about capitalism without mentioning how bad capitalism is ( it destroys art )
0 likesSorry if this is unrelated but what's with the kid with the check mark screaming "Fortnite" in all of the top comments?
0 likes9 views? Well im early
0 likesGod, corporate America is the worst timeline.
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Time to go to soviet times! URAAAA!!!!!
0 likes@MMFan2004 --- sorry, but actually nobody cares about Soviet Union, because I don't see anybody English-Speaking using USSR Music/Movie Footage, even thought it's PUBLIC DOMAIN!
0 likes@MMFan2004 --- I agree, because atleast in USSR you can use 40 second of Mickey Mouse character (and yes, there's a communist movie [made in Eastern Block, but created by Soviets], which featuring Mickey Mouse, I'm not kidding).
0 likesEIGHTEENNINETYTREE!!!
0 likesThe dry position lately fold because half-sister conspicuously damage around a super yam. old-fashioned, uncovered bucket
0 likesHey I'm early
0 likesalready?
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0 likesQuit the drugs
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0 likesWhy
0 likesSaa dude
1 likeThis comment is engagement for the algorithm so more people might see this.
0 likesYou live in Gainesville
0 likesThis why we need Communism
0 likesYarrr
0 likesSucc
0 likesI did not need to know what it looks like when a rhino shits its guts out. Unfortunately, you mage a 20 minute video about it.
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Pap you’re saying that the video is bad? It’s a good video.
1 likeGolden Fish
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0 likesThe public domain is a hindrance
0 likesstop with joker you are not a child groomer
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tf are you talking about?
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1 likeEmp u should rly vote for bernie
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Snow.Drift Productions yikes
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0 likesWah wah wah complain wah wah wah YouTube bad
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ok m h
1 likethe joker voice is cringe
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0 likesjod please comment
0 likesgreetings JODisHere. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!
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2 likeshuigig gRTEA vieod
0 likesTheory: Disney extends Mickey Mouse's copyright so much because they don't want to see scat vore inflation art from him in Deviantart
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Well... someone should tell them, that Rule34 artists don't respect copyright law anyway, lol
1 likeToday, man blames copyright law abuse on "Greedy Corporations" while not realizing that it's Capitalism that's killing art.
2 likesDo you see why communism exists now they reza be living in a Communist country then this dystopian time line bring me out this dystopian timeline someone very uses dead the public domain is Gade would someone give me out all fear
0 likesAll this hate on our copyright system is unfounded. Companies own the rights to their property, and can legally choose how it is distributed on the internet. If they don't want their content being stolen by YouTubers and mutilated for a video, they have every right to a copyright claim. If you think a claim has been filed erroneously or maliciously, you can appeal it. Don't blame us for the copyright laws, we don't make the laws yet, so if you don't like them complain to congress.
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> All this hate on our copyright system is unfounded.
0 likesHow so? Considering the many facets of the laws that people take issue with, especially?
Corporate shill detected. Opinion discarded
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