EPIC! There will come a time when as soon as you are born you're owned by a company an every time someone says your name they will get mugged by a team of laywers passing by.


What an underrated series. That "1893/crab rave" montage is glorious.


I never knew how bad it actually was until I wanted to make a fan edit of a music video and post it.
Now I have to share the edit around in private
I can really understand your pain now.


Amp, at some time in the future, if you ever choose to return to this topic, could you talk about the difficulty/impossibility that exists within getting in contact with these conglomerate companies to ask permission to use their assets?


Emplemon, you are one of the most unique and amazing content creators on youtube. Everytime you upload a video these days, I think "Oof, another 30-or-so minute rant, do I really want to watch that?" But then I remember what all the other ones were like, and I do watch it, and every single one is educational, to the point, enriching, and still entertaining. Never stop what you're doing.


Nobody:
Dad: sings happy birthday to his kids
The FBI: May we introduce ourselves

Nobody:
Dad: *sings happy birthday to his kids*
The FBI: May we introduce ourselves


“The copyright system is a game where the innocent lose and the guilty get to fill their wallets” -probably George Washington

@ShrekNSkrub Gaming yeah it's my favourite show of all time, I can't wait either. see you then ;)

@Harrison Haine honestly, I hated Mr. Peanutbutter when I started watching the show but he really grew on me. He seemed really static and bland in the beginning, but man did that really change. I love all the dumb shit that him and Todd do and I love how fleshed-out all the characters came to be as the series went on. I could talk for hours about how much I enjoy it but I'm not trying to go on a huge tangent in an unrelated comment thread lol. January 31st cannot come soon enough.

@ShrekNSkrub Gaming yeah Mr peanut butter says it to todd, it's such a funny line

@Harrison Haine is that a quote from Bojack Horseman or something? It sounds very familiar. Just curious.

as benjamin franklin once said 'your free trial at benjaminfranklinquotes.com has expired'

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Man I just love living in a corporatocracy.. its almost like the majority of the world's problems can be distilled down to the practice of allowing corporations to buy political policies.


Glad I finally made my way back to your channel. I was a complete YTP sperg in grade school but began to lose interest year or so before you really started to hit it big. When I saw you were changing your channel focus I was pretty disappointed, thinking you were the only decent YTPer still going (other than cs), and as a result I didn’t give your content a chance. I really enjoy it though. Glad you’re continuing to find a place on this site.


Even after a couple of years your content is still pretty good. THIS IS SHIT I CRAVE EMP, this is why I became a patreony


I love to hear you complain, especially when it gets meta


"Are you getting any copyright claims?"
"All I get are copyright claims."

best use of that I've seen so far

The crabs are dancing on the public domain’s grave.

Why doesn't YouTube STOP paying EVERYBODY when a copyright strike is made. Especially, before it's proven as FACT? They simply add an escrow type place & place the earnings on hold. Until after the strike is resolved? Thus stopping people, companies, bots from abusing the current broken system. Win for ALL. It should have been like this from the very start. *Hugz from this Canadian gal 🤗🌻

@JOD "I am sorry you feel that way"<br>shut up, checkmark

@JOD "I am sorry you feel that way"
shut up, checkmark

SafeEggs I believe commenting for 10-12 hours is creative. I find it fun because I can talk to chat and list to music. I am sorry you feel that way thooo. I respect your opinion homie

@SafeEggs He's not gonna reply or (most likely) not even gonna bother reading that you know. It's better to just report him for spam anyway

@JOD Stop doing live streams where you go to random videos from popular channels and comment some random shit, its getting old, annoying and uncreative, try making something actually productive that will make your channel better.

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A crazy thing I've found out about copyrighted music recently is that songs recorded at the turn of the century (over 100 years ago) on wax cylinders are currently copyrighted. Which I'm pretty sure should go against modern copyright law


“Geriatric turbo boomers” thats a keeper


I love this channel. I love your editing. You are a true hero to those of us who still quietly disobey.


Media companies: Now, our operation is small,  and there is a lot of room for aggressive expansion, so witch one of you creators want to give us your money.


RIDGE WALLET has joined the downward spiral. Visit https://www.ridge.com/EMPLEMON and use code "emplemon" for 10% off your order!

Also, comment below if you're an artist and copyright regulation has harmed you more than it's helped.

I have successfully joined the downward spiral

I want to support you but I am not spending 70 God damn us dollars on a metal wallet. However I will support you on patreon.

Thanks for having sponsors I don’t despise

I den on the downward spiral with you emp

@UCTtenOTn9SFTrXGMBjiV46Q hey I know you from another channel


Thanks for putting in all the effort Emp. This was a very informative series.


I wonder how much money these big companies are LOSING by wasting their time going after small creators? A sizeable number of claims are manually submitted over remixes and samples on videos that aren't making a lot of money anyway.


That's a great idea to help curb the abuse of the copyright system. <br>Can't wait to copyright it and claim this video's revenue.

That's a great idea to help curb the abuse of the copyright system.
Can't wait to copyright it and claim this video's revenue.


17:40
The flaw with the 2nd improvement on the current system is that it can be easily bypassed by extending the video. Say, I want to upload an entire song that I do not own the rights to. Lets say its 3 minutes long, which is the typical length of a pop song. If the video were 3 minutes long and it got claimed, I'd lose 100% of the revenue. Fair enough.

But, if I upload that 3 minute song, and then have like 150 minutes (2.5 hours) of silence with a black screen, then I'd only lose 2% of the revenue. This is an easily exploitable weakness. The solution to this is to have advanced detection, context analysis and other bits of technical stuff. Basically, just a lot of clauses to that "The revenue taken from the video is proportional to the amount of time that it makes up the video" and other stuff.

An alternative to this is to have the amount of revenue that the claimant receives be proportional to how much of the clip was used, relative to its length. If I used 1 minute of that 3 minute song, they'd claim a third of the revenue. If I used all 3 minutes, they'd claim 100%, even if it is followed by 2 hours of silence and a black screen.

For multiple infringements in one video, each claimant would receive a slice of the revenue proportional to how much of their thing was used. If I used four 3 minute long songs in a video, they'd each claim 100% of the revenue. But of course, that wouldn't work. To solve this, you'd divide it evenly amongst them. Each claimant would therefore receive 25% of the revenue.


"Off camera EmpLemon is like a pokemon, all he can say 'Downward spiral' that's all he can say."<br>-Mumkey Jones probably

"Off camera EmpLemon is like a pokemon, all he can say 'Downward spiral' that's all he can say."
-Mumkey Jones probably

@TheBrokenUpEndEx 's LastName There's a sex tape of the couple, and multiple testimonies from Sheep

@Cheesefinnegan He has a new channel called simian jimmy or something

Sanctioned Stupidity Youtube deleted his channel, best friend went to prison, feel into a deep depression, and cheated on his girlfriend. He’s doing better now though.

Mumkey Jones? That's a strange way to pronounce Simian Jimmy.

Spiritomb is a spiral thing, made of imprisoned souls stuck to a rock, with purple and green on it.

Spiritomb is the downward spiral in Pokémon form.

Spiritomb is a spiral thing, made of imprisoned souls stuck to a rock, with purple and green on it.

Spiritomb *is* the downward spiral in Pokémon form.

Sanctioned Stupidity YouTube shut down his channel and banned him

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"WHERE DO YOU BELIEVE IN?!!!!"

Emp: "I believe that everything that doesn't copyright strikes you makes you..... stranger...."


I’m always impressed by the amount of effort you put into your videos Emp, nice job on this series


Jesus christ, this was an incredible series. Well researched, engaging & interesting, and you didn't just spend the whole time just bashing YouTube. I actually walked away from this feeling sorry for them; they're stuck bang in the middle of outdated laws drafted specifically to print money for boomers, and the state-of-the-art cultural medium. They're not blameless in all of this, but I do sympathise much more with what they have to deal with, and those tweets and the recent policy changes makes it seem like they're trying.

It always seemed strange to me how the music industry could be so lucrative, but I and most people I know barely spend any money on music these days. Even Spotify lost over a billion dollars in 2017. These shady, backwater laws are exactly how the music industry is making that money, and pedalling the narrative of "it's to protect the artist" is exactly how they escape public scrutiny. It all makes sense now who the real goons are in this mess we've ended up in, and who would've guessed it was the biggest corporations of all.

Thank you for this series. You've done a great service documenting and presenting all of this.


Best, funniest, & most informative video I’ve seen this month. Keep it up Emp, we’re on the brink of revolution. Society won’t stand for Google’s tyranny much longer.


You know it's messed up when even your own country's national anthem is copyrighted.

@WALN Zell  That's exactly how I'd describe youtube's form of government myself - Anarcho-capitalism.

The Soviet National Anthem is apparently owned by a French company.

The French Commune lives on... as anarcho-capitalists.

Yeah so my country's anthem is called "Tautiska giesme" and it was written in 1898 and it gets claimed by some company that I've never heard of and neither existed back in the day, nor wrote, nor published the anthem!

@Charaleet That's not what either of those mean though.

@Charaleet Yeah, umm... the only problem here is that I'm 99% sure the claimant is not acting on behalf of the country or its actual representatives, but in his own greedy interest

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I like the idea of copyright abolition, if I spend 10 years proving a theorem in topology it would be criminal to charge for access to this theorem (academic journals cough cough), in a similar way I think that artists shouldn't monetize their art. We should just make art without trying to extract labor from others.


Plz keep content like this going, you and very few others seem to understand how this thing works


Emplemon: makes an hour long documentary about the cold war
Also Emplemon: 2:48


I just found out, that If you make a meme and put it under the comedy category, Youtube will let you use copyrighted music. the only drawback being the amount of people who will find it.


This video is amazing and came out surprisingly fast compared to the wait for Part 2. Good job.


This whole series on the YouTube Copyright Metagame should be pushed to the front of the video pages of YouTube, Reddit, and other popular social media so that more people will be aware of this issue and possibly a movement will begin to counter it.


I’m anxiously watchin’ this with my mother, who used to work in copyright law(and now works in telecommunications) and has said that she disproves of me writing fanfics if I publish them(as in post them online), sitting right next to me.


Like they always say: Money is one the Three Reasons of Evil.


emp you genuinely have one of the best channels on youtube please never ever stop


Copyright law is, indeed, a comedy. It just so happens that the joke(s) therein are sick ones with no setup nor punchline.


I'm terrified. I'm terrified because civilization rests on the shoulders of its ancestors, but what do you do when the elderly wise men who are supposed to guide you and lead you are all out to rob you, fuck your wife and mom and ruin your country in the pursuit of sex, drugs and rock & roll? What do you do when the elderly who are supposed to keep the following generations going are precisely the ones getting in the way? It shakes me deeply. How did we let this happen?


The script for this video is so well-written, I love it🔥💯


Hope they use this video as evidence when the time comes


You know the heads at YouTube have already considered this and have chosen to continue on the current path anyway. We all know that the copyright system on YouTube could easily have fixed been by now but they continue to ignore the people that made the platform what it is in exchange for big corporations $$$.


This is a dude who not only knows what's wrong but also how to fix it. You've got my vote!


The even worse thing about "Happy birthday" is the tune was composed and published even earlier, and the rights didn't even belong to Warner and yet they still sued people despite not having the rights! "Happy Birthday" had been in the public domain for over a year before this video, but they continue to sue!


I got my YTP taken down despite me giving a disclaimer and credits to original owners and got a copyright strike

Youtube: THATS HOW THE LAW WORKS

I got my YTP taken down despite me giving a disclaimer and credits to original owners and got a copyright strike

Youtube: *THATS HOW THE LAW WORKS*

To be fair, that's the excuse a lot of actual copyright violators use, but YouTube Poops should be considered fair use.

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Excellent series, thanks for all the work you’ve done


One thing that i hate the most of copyrights is the fact that a company can purchase the rights to something, completely drop it and not give the rights back to the owner, even though they are not using it.
A good example is the show making fiends, an old nickelodeon cartoon about an evil girl who can make monsters and has complete control over a town, but is constantly annoyed by another, more cheery and happy-go-lucky girl that just wants to be friends.
The show only had one season, and like what nick does to shows that don’t meet their absurd standards, canned the show, left it in it’s sister channel and never touched it since.
Only thing is, the company still technically owns the copyright, so if the original show creator were to try to do anything with it, she’ll be fined over her own show.
FiNeD oVeR HeR oWn ShOw!
The whole thing pisses me off, and if the stars align and we actually get copyright laws changed, we should hope that there is a paragraph added where if the copyright owner does not use said copyright after a certain amount of time, the copyright will be nulified and will either be returned to the original creator, os simply left as free to use.
As an upcoming animator, it scares the hell out of me to think that if i were to sell my copyright to someone, they could just can everything i did and plan to do, leave it all to die, and not even let me pick up the pieces to try and start again.
I’d want to keep my time in trying to work on my show’s story and quality, not to trying to fight to get my right to use my own work that isn’t even being used back.


Now that it is possible to go to jail because of a DMCA strike on the US, this video holds true even more and more.


your "thats good" mindset for someone else using one of your original creations in their video is really admirable.


As much as I love watching your content, this stuff is depressing man. And I LOVE IT! don't get me wrong. I guess it's just another thing to wait for boomers to die out in politics over.


Imagine the world with properly created copyright law and actual public domain.... IMAGINE IT AND HOW GOOD IT WOULD BE


18:00 - You've made the rookie mistake of assuming that laws have anything to do with justice and fairness.


Would lobbying Congress to change the law (even if that is unlikely) be fair or just hypocritical? Or simply beating the media companies at their own game?

I think it’s acceptable in this case.


Me: spends hours on an original piece of artwork that happens to have an anime character in it
Me: puts design on a tshirt website to try to make money off of my artwork
Website: This piece of artwork has been claimed by [x]
Me: are you kidding me?


Honestly Emp I could see you being a pretty decent lawyer.


is it just me, or does your channel now officially have lore to it?


I loved your content, before during and will always do so after the downward spiral <3


don't use patents as an example in "current year" they are also corrupted now beyond reason

@deidara _ but they are in it to 'help' people its not a bout money. kind of like how hospitals and any medical care can nickel and dime you to death cause they can hide how much it will really cost you until you get your bill...hey we wouldn't want transparency on that do we now cause reasons.

Even the buttons on remote controls are patented, that's why no two remotes are alike. They can't standardize anything without paying a patent holder.

See : Patent Trolls. A stick is a patent.

@deidara _ YEP had to pay $125 today for my insulin pens!!!

Big pharma confirms, got diabetes? Too bad insulin costs $500 a pop.

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Really liked the series, but after wandering through YouTube recently, I wondered how cool it'd be if we got another Ascended soon just like in the beginning of 2018... but then again, seeing the thing is this series made me realize, that it's a pain the ass way more than it seems.
Also, I don't wanna sound like those entitled assholes, who demanded Frying Dory two years ago... um, you know what, nevermind.

Really liked the series, but after wandering through YouTube recently, I wondered how cool it'd be if we got another Ascended soon just like in the beginning of 2018... but then again, seeing the thing is this series made me realize, that it's a pain the ass way more than it seems.
Also, I don't wanna sound like those entitled assholes, who *_demanded_* Frying Dory two years ago... um, you know what, nevermind.


in other words, copyright law is the product of this ''rich gets richer'' system that'll sadly never go away


"Entrance of the Gladiators" op. 68 or "Entry of the Gladiators" (Czech: Vjezd gladiátorů) is a military march composed in 1897 by the Czech composer Julius Fučík.

>1897
>124 years ago
>Still copyrighted

Actually, one thing is the copyright of the composition, the sheet music, another thing is the composition of the recording, hiring an orchestra to play the music, many recordings of classic public domain music are copyrighted and tricked people who used them.


I actually didn't know about this stuff. Thank you for teaching me about things that I didn't know and things that are probably still going to be valid when I grow up and start messing around with a video editor


Content is a myth.
Copyright Law is a joke.
We are all pawns, controlled by something greater: Ads.
The DNA of the corporation.

ads, they shape our content, they are the trending, they are the reason we create. expose someone to demonitization long enough, they learn to strike back. they become a memer. edgy, roasts, hilarious. all ads, all passed along.

YOUR STRIKES. END HERE.

except..i passed one..to you..

Wow. How edgy.<br>-Hey look a kitty off to the side!

Wow. How edgy.
-Hey look a kitty off to the side!

@guddy South Park was on to something...

@Sooly Actually yes, all ads are full of shit.

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Emp I've been watching you for so many years now, please dont EVER change


Keep up your passion dude,
You offer a unique
And to some off us a far more enjoyable perspective on youtube
And the world,

There is far to much sugar coated bullshit
Sometimes you just need to tell it how it is
From your perspective.


Some day young, cool politicians will solve all of our problems somehow!

T-thats not how bribing/blackmail works...


I genuinely enjoy watching rants (as long as they are moral and civil, are based on research, and document history in some form or fashion).

Also 3:44 is EmpLemon version of gospel rapper T-Bone
Mad Skillz, my friend, Mad Skillz...


20:03 You could’ve used Carnival Night Zone from Sonic 3. Oh wait, that music has 7 notes from Michael Jackson’s “Jam” in it. SEGA can’t even re-release the game on newer consoles because of this.

tHaT’s HoW tHe LaW wOrKs!

20:03 You could’ve used Carnival Night Zone from Sonic 3. Oh wait, that music has 7 notes from Michael Jackson’s “Jam” in it. SEGA can’t even re-release the game on newer consoles because of this.

*tHaT’s HoW tHe LaW wOrKs!*

It's not like there are only 7 notes.<br>Seriously. NOW IF I PRESS C IT'S A COPY BECAUSE BETHOOVEN USED C ONCE.

It's not like there are only 7 notes.
Seriously. NOW IF I PRESS C IT'S A COPY BECAUSE BETHOOVEN USED C ONCE.

@Demonic Pikachu Sega Genesis Collection has Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles.

@Vsus Here --- Hard Times is unreleashed song, so they can do re-release game with this song without trouble.                                            (I can't say the same about Carnaval Night Zone)

It's their own fault! They ditched the license but kept the songs.

@FancySC wait really? might have to grab that after i get my check

@Demonic Pikachu There's also the Steam version.

Well, technically not fully true. As the 1993 prototype of Sonic 3 we have has music that would later be in the PC version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Sonic & Knuckles Collection).

@Iona Erofeeff Considering people like to copyright words and phrases, you're only predicting the future

@EpicZantetsuken Okay, that's less bad than I initially thought though. The way specific colors are patented and trademarked seem to be different between companies, and they only seem to really prevent competing companies or advertisers from encroaching on that "brand". I still think it's stupid though, because in my opinion the success of a brand should depend on the merit of the product or service it represents and not the shutdown of potential competitors. Though I'm not a corporate tycoon so what do I know about the morality of business right

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@Iona Erofeeff write that down! write that down!

Ughhhhhhhh.
This is like prohibiting people from using certain colors because 30% (or whatever) of a logo uses those colors.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


there will never ever be a system as broken as  copyright


If pirating could actually hurt those companies, there'd be hoards of people pirating stuff not for having it, but for kicking them in the shin.


Thanks for making this and educating us in BullshitLawsTM


Disney disgusts me,they arrested three people responsable for a club penguin server,they didn't make the game but won't give the rights to its original owners and creators,THIS HURTS THE ARTIST


Copyright should be a tool to stop against blatant stealing of people's creations. It should be the thing that stops 24 hour Family Guy reuploads, not hurt little Timmy who just wants to play Tony Hawk Pro Skater


This dude literally advertised a wallet knife and youtube STILL whining about "aDvERtISeR FrIEndLy cOnTenT!111!!!!!!!11!"

Generic Porsche With A Training Wheel On It

He did that to make a mockery of what makes shit advertiser friendly.


I don't know how to say this, but I love you EmpLemon. You're the best. Keep making videos please.


You know what? I wanted to make unmonetized videos, playthrough, YTPS and discussions when I moved out. But now? I REAAAALLLY don't think so. I'm not sure that's what I wanna do, if just showing people how to play(and why I like) NSMB, talking about Darkwing Dark or making some random YTP in the heat of passion will get me sued.


Feels like corporations are just gonna keep growing and growing until there's nothing left for everyone else.


Wishful thinking on my part completely but I just hope that eventually these mega-corporations get so overbloated with copyrights and ownerships that they end up collapsing when they "fly to close to the sun.".


10:17  In all fairness, during his life Prince was probably the most ruthless copyright enforcers in the entire art world. Plus, he had a huge repulsive response to anything involving the internet. Despite all the revenue and popularity he garnered due to the web, he never changed his mind on it.

Edit: 12:49  Oh look, it's my hometown!


My problem with trying to change copyright law is that the new law will be written by media conglomerates, for media conglomerates, and qe'd end up more screwed than we were before.


Shame the series is over. I was enjoying getting a feeling of hopelessness every time i was reminded of the fact that copyright machine broke. All jokes aside, a good format for your vids, looking forward to more.


I love how you actually break down the ideas of what really is happened to youtube. While actually giving real answers. Rather than peeing on yourself and whining that youtube is dead and shit.


I know this is outta the blue but I been watching for ages and am consistently blown away by your creativity and level of editing. Imo you are the goat youtuber.


I studied copyright law during my MBA. I specifically looked into the Apple vs Microsoft lawsuit, where Apple sued MS for stealing their 'look and feel'. Ironic, since Apple got its windows UI from PARC and Xerox. Anyway, Apple lost since copyright only covers EXACT copies.

Fair use is a section of the law that ought to be clarified since it's litigated all the time. Fair use involves 1) insignificant amounts of content; or 2) non-commercial use.  Specify exactly how many seconds of a song or video may be copied for commercial use.

Then there are parodies and derivative works, which is most of the internet. These are free and clear of copyright law, since they are original expressions. Again, clarify the copyright law accordingly. How much must be derivative and parody? 50%? 10%? 25% Pick and number and write it into law.


"All you ever do is complain!"
And that's why we love you.

*"All you ever do is complain!"*
And that's why we love you.

@JOD God help your soul if you're doing this for 12 hours.

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The way YT deals with copyright among other elements is why I gave up awhile ago on trying to make money through the website.


Touhou is the perfect example if how to copyright correctly. The original creator is the real Chad.


This is one of the best videos I have seen recently. Thank you!


I think, in theory, allowing content to be distributed to individuals rather than institutions is how we can change the system. Something like Patreon allows artists to distribute directly to their customers without interference. Something like that could free copyright from the iron grip of corporate machines.

On an unrelated note, please check out my Patreon


If the original copyright laws were kept in the US, the public domain would have progressed to works until 1991. Imagine that.


It’s funny that a coin flip to decide whenever or not an appeal is accepted is more fair than the current system


I have to say the way you do your ad spots is truly unique! It's like you don't even change pace, you just keep right on blasting AS you're doing the spot for the sponsor...you, sir, are EPIC! ☺😂😁


has anyone ever told you that you're absolutely fucking amazing at explaining important problems in te most straight, face to face way possible


My uncle's a lawyer for these companies, and I got into a huge debate with him about this.

@LGTheOneFreeMan he was doing a livestream on his channel of commenting ok boomer. Now anytime he leaves a legit message people are just going to assume hes spamming lol

@_craziee_ he was doing a 10 hour livestream of replying to comments

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I bet he gets some nice sums of money for being the devil's attorney

@antlerman His opinion was basically that it was the law and that people everyone who got copyright claimed was abusing the copyright system. He was very one sided with his opinion.

Could you message emp and explain your uncles POV?<br>Could help us figure out what to say.

Could you message emp and explain your uncles POV?
Could help us figure out what to say.


Its good to see someone who still remembers old youtube


Fun fact : I once was told to change the famous Clown Theme for something else for a kid’s theatre show I organized for my town’s daycare. Wtf


EmpLemon, I would like to translate your videos for free obviously using my voice in order for you to get more public, I could translate them to Spanish because I think you deserve way more views, the quality of your content is amazing and it would be awesome for people who doesn't speak English to be able of seeing your amazing content! Also I could make subtitles if you want!


Imagine if once a property became a part of the public domain, it couldn't be copyrighted again. Even if Disney's copyright on Mickey Mouse somehow ended after 500 years, they would still be able to instantly buy it back, which just defeats the entire purpose of the law in the first place.


YouTube is pretty much turning into daytime television at this point. That's why they're always shoving Jimmy Kimmel in your face in the home screen.

WeegeeSlayer -- I actually never saw Jimmy Kimmel once in my life before EmpLemon video.

God I hate Jimmy Kimmel so much, did you know he did blackface once?

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I thought the wallet was gonna have a clown's license


i actually like listening to you complain. you do have a point most of the time.


i sure do love youtube today. a real great time for creators.


Some how, Emp's face reveal being a Joker cosplay for a wallet ad filmed on location at The Swamp at the University of Florida, feels very much on-brand.

Emp already facerevealed some years ago, back when he was still doing YTP, in fact. One of his Admiral Ackbar collabs, I believe


emplemon is truly one of the most un-appreciated youtubers ever. although considering the state of youtube, being a 'youtuber' is more an insult than praise.

waluigi's twitter --- No, he's kinda overrated (I like him thought).

@jeccf he deserves what he has and nobody sabotaged his current numbers so he doesn't deserve more. When you deserve something it is because you accomplished something through your own effort and realized it all in an honest way or did something to warrant a cause and effect relationship (like commiting a crime and being arrested for it - you deserved to be arrested). Emp did what he did honestly and gained what he did thanks to that and there was no direct interference from any party. He deserves what he has, nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps you could say he deserves more money for his videos because the copyright law is implemented so poorly but that is not directly related to his sub-count and viewership.

There is perhaps an argument to be made about his unfair demonetization causing him to have lesser numbers thanks to the algorithm but this discounts everybody else on the platform that he would have had to compete with. That is definitely a point I can't accept or deny due to it being so hypothetical. As it currently stands I think he deserves what he has and that he is a great content creator and yes I would want more people to watch him but I don't think he "deserves" it. Hope I clarified my point in an understandable way :]

@SiMe He doesn't have more views then Jimmy Kimmel. That's how.

@Hatster Go away JOD....I know it's you dude.

How exactly is he unappreciated? I really don't get these types of general comments. His videos have really good like/dislike ratios, high view counts and most of the viewers do appreciate his content. How is he underrated or unappreciated.

Just checked out JODisHere's channel, and he commented "ok boomer" for 12 hours, so maybe this is just one of his things.

@Hatster yeah let him spam his channel under every comment

@JOD hey Jod. No one cares! No one careeess!!!!

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EmpLemon.

the only true hero on youtube

EmpLemon.

the only true hero on youtube


And here's how butthurt can a person be when YouTube claims their video.

YouTube, stop this nonsense. Give this person the money they deserve for their hard work.


you made up for what you said in the last video in this one, so thank you<br>fight the power!

you made up for what you said in the last video in this one, so thank you
fight the power!


and this is why I haven't paid for music in a very long time. only time I ever have is when I know it goes to the artist and not some corporate slime


“Good artists copy, Great artists steal” - some guy

@Farty Person Sorry mate, reddit copypasta stays on reddit

@JOD I just downvoted your post.

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@YuJia Yeah. He's spamming all over the place here.

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copyright law existing at all is a tragedy


What I think needs to be done is that claims can be put in court for free with the ceo a highly qualified, trained, and respected judge. Both sides use the law to argue that the claim was correct or that it never should of happened. If the person that got claimed won due to a correct and common sense decision than the thing that did the claim can never claim the person again even if they do something wrong. If the company wins they can do whatever they want with the video and the person if copied the content on purpose can no longer appeal a claim or if by accident could no longer appeal for a year. If the claim was made by someone who doesn't own the claimed property than they can no longer claim anything even if they go to own something and someone steals it than they can do nothing and the company that does own the property can not go and claim the video for the exact same thing. This would give companies less incentive to claim anything without proof without probably getting fired or punished severely, the person that was wrongly claimed can stay safe if they never did anything wrong and videos that use safe harbor would be safe, and the people that own nothing could no longer claim something they don't own. Also youtubes algorithm would change to show content that went through its own vastly upgraded software so people could use it and only block videos labeled for kids and content it deems is a low quality that would be reviewed by many common people before being stopped and it would be changed to correctly block infringements on the guidelines so everyone would be happy. The only way youtube could limit creates is if a high percent of viewers dislike and flag videos for the correct tags and some would be added to more correctly show why it was flagged and viewed by actual people before allowed to be cut off from people. People can also take down incorrect news articles about themselves if people find their claimed to be true and the person didn't watch their content. Anythig else stupid about youtube would end and people could finally be happy.


Ahhh yes... the classic American Legal System


Probably the best youtube series I watched all month

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18:00 - Mostly agreeing here. However consider this case, a YouTuber uses 3 minutes of copyrighted material, then ends their video with 2 hrs of black screen. A proportional system may become just as prone to abuse by creators as the current system is abused by media companies.


If you want to start making audio-visual content today, stop. You will not see any benefit, and it will likely end in your bankruptcy for including the color green, which exists in someone else’s production. “That’s how the law works.”


how messed up is it that people hold copyright over a dead person's work? what if the artist who CREATED that material approved the edit had they been alive? it's unbelievable that companies can make decisions for the dead with nothing more than an old contract


Hey emp: to make this not a problem for the next generation, license your videos under Creative Commons. There's a button somewhere in the video settings.


Emp, YouTube doesn't want to improve the copyright system. It wants to strangulate the non-corporate entities off of the site and have a circlejerk with the IP megacorporations. I know you're already keeping an eye on other video sites, so it's not even you yourself I'm concerned with, more the people who see this video and will think there's a hope of anything like your suggestions being implemented.

Indeed, Corporations are the enemy and You-tube is a corporation. That's why CNN and Fox are pushed as legit news sources. And why Jonathon Pies "why Trump won" video is no longer the first search result.


I swear I wrote a whole essay about this copyright issue, thank God someone else has talked about extensions on copyright protection and how they're bullshit now


Honestly loving the bootlegged prog epics used in the background, Karn Evil 9, now Thick as a Brick, it's great.


What's next? Warner bros will sue the government for ''Stealing the star spangled<br>Banner''

What's next? Warner bros will sue the government for ''Stealing the star spangled
Banner''


Part 1: YouTube copyright system is flawed because of faulty detection
Part 2: YouTube copyright system is flawed because you can easily circumvent it
Part 3: YouTube copyright system is flawed because copyright is flawed


The shepherds tone is copyrighted

HOW DO YOU COPYRIGHT A TONE


I had no idea it was this bad. Thank you for informing me.


The Happy Birthday song was released into public domain in 2016 when a federal court ruled that Warner had an invalid claim.


7:43 "I don't see people reliving railroad spikes"
laughs in the combined railfan and thomas the tank engine fandoms

7:43 "I don't see people reliving railroad spikes"
*laughs in the combined railfan and thomas the tank engine fandoms*


Emplemon 2016-2018: Desperately trying to climb out of the Downward Spiral at all cost
Emplemon 2019: It's free real estate

Emplemon 2016-2018: *Desperately trying to climb out of the Downward Spiral at all cost*
Emplemon 2019: *It's free real estate*

@MrTriangleWorld Uhh all the time every time

When did he say he was trying to climb out?

It's the Emplemon, never ending, downward spiral world tour!

hi str8. DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL


Fuck emp you really killed it with the editing on this one. Straight up outdone yourself. Love your shit bro


Honestly, I'd argue that patents shouldn't get put on a pedestal as they often get abused in a similar way to copyright, creating and sustaining monopolies and oligopolies (via either them claiming the only ways to do it or them both infringing on the other's patents, which means suing results in a countersuit and mutually assured destruction), by giving big companies the means to go after small and medium size potential competitors and either squash them before they can grow to compete or just prevent them from ever existing until the patent is expired and the product potentially obsolete, while also discouraging innovation with the idea.

Both Patent and Copyright law need major reworks, with the former IMO maybe not even being necessary (with good anti-monopoly laws replacing it) while the latter needs a large scale reduction and a lesser degree of punishments.


Funny thing is that ads often break the rules like I've seen more nsfw ads on youtube then videos monetized


Hey, just wanted to note that as an engineer, the patent system is near worthless too, and actually probably does far more harm than good.  Pharmaceutical patents are probably the best example, they spend lots of time creating physiologically identical drugs and then pushing them to doctors as "the latest and greatest".  But even elsewhere, it's easy enough to create something that's physically unique enough but functionally identical and steal someone's idea, with only giant corporations surviving in the trenches.

The fact is, after 50 years of giant corporations writing the laws they have to follow, it's no surprise the laws all help them.  Laws exist to protect the existing structure of society, not for some abstract concept of "justice".  If your channel threatens the structure of Disney, you will be made to conform - and the law is the tool to make you conform.


Copyright was always this evil. This is how copyright was intended to work. People tried to turn it against its nature and use it for good, but they couldn't contain it's evil. Copyright is unethical. Repeal Copyright.


2 years ago and at 15:30 emp has a list "Congress Agenda"  4. Is Ukraine.... neat, almost like it's relevant now...


He doesn't complain. He's pointing out a problem and in the end he proposes ideas to solve the problem.


“You wanna know how I got these spirals?”

"My father was a Youtube employee...and a fiend. And one night, he goes off greedier than usual. Mommy  refutes the copyright claim to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not... one ...bit. So, me watching, he takes the strike to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so downwards?" He comes at me with the copyright strike- "Why so downwards?" He sticks the strike in my mouth - "Let's put a claim on that video!"

"My father was a Youtube employee...and a fiend. And one night, he goes off greedier than usual. Mommy  refutes the copyright claim to defend herself. He doesn't like that. _Not..._ *one* *_...bit._* So, me watching, he takes the strike to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so downwards?" He comes at me with the copyright strike- "Why so downwards?" He sticks the strike in my mouth - *_"Let's put a claim on that video!"_*

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Its kind of funny how copyright law has forced a resurgence of old classical music and old plays. In trying to protect new(ish) things it just made people use old things instead. Nobody here is a classical music fan but it certainly works in this format.


17:40 i just wanna point out a loophole in this argument that a copyright holders revenue on a video should be proportional to the amount of time the copyrighted material shows up. what's stopping someone from deliberately trying to make their videos as long as possible to increase their stake of the revenue by, say, inserting an hour-long black screen at the end?

I feel that might not get as much views as what we currently have, as the blackout bits will leave people to leave.


I'm still in love with the music choices in your videos.


Me: Wanna hear a joke?

Friend: Sure

Me: Youtube Copyright

Friend: What an unoriginal joke

Me: Exactly

@i don't check my notifications Do what you want cause a pirate is free.


5:07 but.. That's not how copyright works. Any creative work you make is automatically copyrighted. You can officially register your copyright, but that doesn't create the copyright.

5:07 but.. That's not how copyright works. Any creative work you make is automatically copyrighted. You can officially _register_ your copyright, but that doesn't _create_ the copyright.


I've been watching your videos since 2015 and now I have subscribed I love all of your content


I’ve finally found a safe haven hopefully this one will last longer than the last but with how wanted I am for singing happy birthday in public I’ll give it 2 weeks


Thank youu. Copyright law is not feasible, unreasonable, and extremely restrictive on creativity in the digital age


Holy shit you've blown up in the last couple years... i remember when you had like 1800 subs... now 400000+ and growing, good job man..


The problem lies precisely in the fact that the law is administrated. The law should and shall serve the justice. Administration is but calculating profit. These things are contrary to each other.


I love the fact he makes fun of a product he got paid to advertise


If you have a YouTube distribution license ... What is the point of creating new music?
<br>If everyone uses it and pays you? why bother?

If you have a YouTube distribution license ... What is the point of creating new music?
If everyone uses it and pays you? why bother?


Youtube poop Music Video but it's Rusty Cage's bg music

@ryuko matoi And who asked for your opinion about my opinion?

Didn't expect you here.<br>Love your vids.

Roblox LokiBlaster what? Oh wait I thought you were both the same account

Hey, could you please upload more? If you're taking a break, it's ok!


To crush the metagame:
> Become YouTube's top exec
> State that, starting soon, everything posted on YouTube is owned by Google
> Buy off Sony, Warner and Viacom with the royalties now in your possession
> Make YouTube directly pay every channel that posts on its platform in a reasonable manner
> Put everything in the public domain just for the lolz


No matter how much you smuggle in content in your videos and filter it with the green-purple sheen, I’ll always like it.<br>It’s your style.

No matter how much you smuggle in content in your videos and filter it with the green-purple sheen, I’ll always like it.
It’s your style.


What if you take an automated bot system that uses a group of servers that simultaneously use free VPN services to look like they are in different locations while uploading music all over the internet using bot mails and accounts and spreading it everywhere til the companies cant stop it.

I kinda wanna ask Bernie about copyright protection and his thoughts on shortening it.


I appreciate your clown representation in videos


Alan Walker copyrighted the non-copyright version of his own song

lol

@ketruB his musics are like musics Hans Zimmer composes to movies based on Dan Brown books:

All remixes of one song

Weren't his songs royalty free, you know, like HOME songs and every shit that exists in the "electronic gems" channel?

I thought that was part of the meme or joke from what I saw so

How would that even work? His songs are used in almost lifehack video from 2012 to now.

@JOD my father legitimately flossed a few weeks ago when i was getting ready for school

sorry to break the boomer combo, but he doesn't drink monster

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@ahmost 22 all of his music is just remixes of fade
he seemingly struck gold with it but i really wish he did something more than jsut make the same song, with the same structure, progression, over and over and over and over again
whenever you hear any of his new music it just sounds exactly the same as anything else he ever put out

@Vsus Here I always thought that song was generic anyways

Also Paul Atrocity's We Going On was claimed

seriously? here goes the tiniest shard of respect i still had for him


"Copyrights should function similarly to the patent system, by protecting small creators by getting run over by the corporate machine."<br>Lmao no, that's not how patents work at all. Patents are weapons that companies use to sue other companies out of business. If you believe otherwise, it's because you've never been through the process of actually applying for a patent, and/or have never actually (tried to) read any patent recently approved by the USPTO.

"Copyrights should function similarly to the patent system, by protecting small creators by getting run over by the corporate machine."
Lmao no, that's not how patents work at all. Patents are weapons that companies use to sue other companies out of business. If you believe otherwise, it's because you've never been through the process of actually applying for a patent, and/or have never actually (tried to) read any patent recently approved by the USPTO.

@q ǝɯɐN ou go watch Jörg Sprave on patent,<br>it;s recommended by someone on this comment section

@q ǝɯɐN ou go watch Jörg Sprave on patent,
it;s recommended by someone on this comment section


First of all: I agree with the central point of this video completely. We desperately need a complete copyright reform. That said, I do see two problems with what is said in this video.

The first is when you talk about how you ended up "copyrighting" your song. I realize that this was basically an aside and not all that important to the point your were making. However, it is also completely wrong and perpetuates one of the most common misconceptions of copyright. You didn't copyright the song. You always had the copyright over the song because you made it. What you did do was register your copyright so you would be in a better position to assert that copyright (through - for example - cease and desist letters or law suits). Yes, Ridiculousness needs your permission to use your video. They always did. Yes, that show (and similar ones) are completely based on infringing on the copyright of those who are unlikely to have the means or willingness to assert it. If anything, that shows how broken the current copyright system is.

The other part that bothers me is the changes you want to be made by YouTube. It helps to understand what YouTube's position is. They are the ones distributing the videos you upload. You promise them that you own the copyright to what you upload. As the ones doing the distributing, they are the ones who can be sued by the actual copyright holders if you were mistaken {or lied) about owning the copyright. That's why they have filters to detect copyrighted content automatically and have the ability for copyright holders to flag content as being something they hold the copyright to.

It's also why they side with the claimant so often (and initially at the very least). The claimant can sue them if they don't respond to the claim and it turns out to be a valid one. On the other hand, they do not have an obligation towards the uploader, so taking a video offline or changing its monetization is not something they could ever be sued over.

In fact, the whole idea of ad revenue going to the copyright claimant just another way to do that: appease the ones who might sue them. They are based on the agreements that they have with people about this. This is all meant to balance their need (not getting sued) with their wish (not taking down videos in order to keep content creators happy).

That's why things like ad revenue sharing the way you suggest aren't really an option. YouTube can't impose rules on copyright claimants. All they can do is offer the claimant the ad revenue in exchange for the promise not to sue while the video is kept online. They could offer less of the revenue, but the claimant is the one that decides in the end. If they refuse, the result will likely be that the video is taken down instead, because YouTube will definitely choose that over the risk of getting sued. You're right that it's unfair. But you cannot blame YouTube for that. It's the copyright claimants and the underlying copyright system we have that cause the unfairness...

(And as a final note, "Happy Birthday" actually is in the public domain and did not leave it (which also means that people singing it did not infringe on such a copyright). A big, powerful and rich company bullied people into believing that they held the copyright. They did this by threatening to sue people who used the song without paying them royalties. Because it was a large company with lots of funds, most people just paid or avoided the song all together. Of course, that served to lend more credibility to their copyright claim. Eventually, someone challenged their claim, and a few years ago, it was finally ruled that the company was unable to prove its claim to the copyright over either the lyrics or the melody, essentially making the song free to use again. Yep, it's once again a tale of the failure of the current system...)


You know what's fucking sad, I completely forgot that copywrite over work is not supposed to last forever. I really hope that when I create worlds and characters, regardless if I'm actually good at it, it'll be in the public domain in 10 or 15 years so people can use it and mess with it all they want to, change it and make their own stories out of it.... hopefully by then we have changed the law more so that big companies can't just claim it forever... I'm honestly really fucking depressed that if the law was different, we could have free access to some of our favorite creations growing up.


Disney: how dare you give us free publicity.

Also Disney: I found an anime not that many people know about in the US. Let's steal it and to hide we did, we'll sue them when they try to come to the US. The world will never know.

@DrewPicklesTheDark if I were YouTube, I would have banned them. Maybe even sued for slander.

How about before Youtube was bought out/sold it's soul, corporations were caught uploading their own copyrighted content just so they could attack Youtube.


You might as well, repeal the copyright system and replace it with something else.


A law that goes un-enforced is just words on a paper, sitting in a file cabinet gathering dust. <br>A law that is over-enforced is an abusive mockery of the legal system.

A law that goes un-enforced is just words on a paper, sitting in a file cabinet gathering dust.
A law that is over-enforced is an abusive mockery of the legal system.


it's like we're progressing into the dark ages


Copyright law is made way before YouTube or the internet ever it  disgraceful there are zero updates when it comes to it

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God I sure do love the oligopolies that run the whole worldwide media industry!


When you start being the sole benefactor of YouTube, they'll listen to your complaints.  Otherwise, you're preaching to the choir.


Unfortunately, the money which the big media corporations get from unfairly claiming videos is very lucrative, and any changes to the broken system will not benefit them financially, so as things stand, no positive changes will be made.


I agree with this video but I gotta say. I still buy CDs to get music lol.

1st option is from the merch booth of the band since this seems to put the most money into the pockets of the bands I'm supporting.
2nd option is from a local or small chain record store like Zia Records here in the Southwest.


The part that really gets me about this whole situation is that a lot of the actual song writers and character designers employed by these companies couldn't care less about copyright laws.


So I appreciate the idea of having a "more fair" system that's sensitive to the needs of youtubers, buuuuuut

The problem with reform is that half measures in the right direction tend to take the wind out of the sails for more radical change. Your suggestion still empowers large corporations to engage in automated grift using YTs tools. I mean, first of all it's strictly worse in the short term for copyright holders to only make percentages of ad revenue for claimed content, instead of the whole pot, so there's basically no incentive for them to advocate for that. Regardless, if it became clear that public sentiment was against these exploitative practices and things were gonna have to change, this is exactly the sort of face-saving self-interested reform that large rights holders would throw their weight behind.

There is no "win win" - there rarely is when it comes to public policy and high dollar private interests. The copyright vultures must lose one way or the other. If you're on the side that says they deserve to, might as well go all the way.


Minor, insignificant point to make: Vinyl record sales are in a resurgence right now, mostly because of hipsters and people buying as a collector's item of sorts. Obviously streaming platforms are the dominant force of the industry, but it's an interesting facet of the state of music.


Is there a legal way to counter sue companies who've copyright claimed a video, took the revenue from it for a while and then dismissed the claim?


The problem is the general public just don't care about that. As always almost no one cares about new laws until it's too late.


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while i agree for the most part, how will reducing the copyright protection time help? sorry if i am wrong but cant they just renew or reapply for whatever entity got released from protection?


As a musician myself I despise copyright laws

My own original songs played in a completely downtuned guitar gets flagged cause it happens to share a name with another song


i just need to stress to the fellow humans that's adult enough to understand. this does not make communism okay. that's like setting your house on fire for having mismatching colours on your curtains.


I said the exact same thing about the Beatles. Had the copyright laws of now been in effect in the USA and the UK during the late 50s, pretty much every band we remember today from then wouldn’t exist.

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Inb4 this video gets nuked for "harrassing" Youtube's corporate team.

@Soviet Billionaire interesting fact, what's your source?

Better download this (as well as Part 1 and 2) before they ruin it for everyone!

Susan's sister is married to the guy who owns Google. Susan totally got the position because she knows how to run Youtube, and not at all because of the nepotism of a burgeoning trillion-dollar techno-aristocracy.

@Ariston Garza she asked to see the manager, then she became the manager.

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youtube is going to hell if Susan keeps acting like a Karen


There will never ever be another YouTuber like EmpLemon


As a wise (man?) once said, "No copyright law in the Universe in going to stop me!"


Those who abuse the law, deserve none.
BTW, public domain isn't dead — it's just prone to Disneyfication.
And there currently standing legal systems allow for no space inbetween copyright and public domain.
For starters, we need a sticky noncomercial license with no attribution required legally available.


The sad part about this is that this video will in itself have a small impact on the whole copyright legislation. It just makes me really sad.


If the Copyright Law is a joke, why aren't we laughing?

Simple.
People don't laugh at demeaning jokes about themself.

He was actually talking about corporations, NOT the people.


I genuinely do not think they will EVER budge on this subject. Unfortunately, this is the way of things to be Royal one must have royalties. In the same way peasants farmed the land and gave all their bounty to the king who redistributed it, much is the same with media and they'll run it into the ground before ever making it 'fair and equitable'. Seriously. Still, this video is simply fucking amazing and I couldn't agree more with your perspective.


As a lawyer specialising in copyright enforcement I'd just like to say 'Boo hoo, you don't like it, do something else.'<br>And thanks for the money.

As a lawyer specialising in copyright enforcement I'd just like to say 'Boo hoo, you don't like it, do something else.'
And thanks for the money.


I'd listen to you complain about paint dry all day long!


the best part is that nobody can do anything about it without out-bidding disney whem it comes to lobbying. and that is LITERALLY impossible. So yes, the public domain is dead! Rejoice corporate overlords!


This is the equivalent of ranting on Facebook to all your similar interest friends. No problem fam I'll go change my copyright strategies after all I'm John Corporation.


"we investigated ourselves and found us to be in the right" -Sony


Copyright for music is kind of tricky in itself. But for classical music it depends on who recorded the piece. Original works aren't recorded so record labels have the upper hand in that regard.

This is one of the reasons why during my time at Cypress College I arranged my own classical orchestra library for content creators. Among other original works.

It's up on my royalty free playlist here on YouTube and SoundCloud. I never really cared how you downloaded it. And since nearly 8 years ago people have made foreign websites dedicated to ripping and redistributing my early musical works. I'm no big major company so I really didn't care if my works were distributed behind my back. I always saw that as a compliment among even being noticed.


I love how spongebob and/or  the simpsons can be used to showcase every aspect of life


man this series used to be actual informational on how to slightly  help people with trying to fix the situation in place and it's turned into another complain fest. Yeah you could say "oh but the system will get worse and this advice wont help soon" but it's better than just complaining, the whole fucking site has been doing that and look how far it's gotten


An idea I have for a revised copywright law, and bear with me becuase I have no knowledge on laws besides "drugs and killing bad", is that once the creators/copyright holders make a certain amount of profit from the media they don't have control over how it's used outside of official retail areas/websites. Of course this means that people who make things for free dont own their own thing but in those cases people just want the recognition from making the thing itself, but maybe this law could have an addendum so different people in the same boat dont get fucked over, like in Rusty Cage's case, if such a thing in law exists. if it doesnt than i have no idea what to do and i dont plan on becoming a politician anyway


"What are we gonna do about it?"
Me: Looks at a guillotine

"What are we gonna do about it?"
Me: *Looks at a guillotine*


These copyright claimers are really as thick as a brick.


The craziest thing that is happening to copyright is how youtube is allowing people to break the law. Technically, a content creator owns the copyright of said content the moment it is officially made real. Registering copyrights only puts things on the books and is not required for ownership. If someone else registers the copyright before the creator, that register is invalid. With that information, YouTube has frequently let criminals fraudulently claim copyright that they don't actually own with no repercussions because the system makes it so easy to do so.


Essentially copyright is responsible for the dank meme singularity that has been thrust upon the user experience if anyone making use of a digital platform


Well, I just copyrighted the Sun Tzu quotes and names. Now give me money!


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Everything is fine!
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Everything is fine!
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Copyright issues is a symptom of a larger problem of corporatism imo, it's just plain destroying everything.


Maybe this is a bit much, but I might go as far to say that these big corporations and their tactics to make all the money go to them has held back society more than almost anything in all of human history


11:15 I have song an bootleg Finnish translated version of the song. lol.
But no birthday song is anything compared how much copyright law I break.
It's also pretty cool to think that many people singing the song don't even know what the copyright law is.
Btw I am still kind of confused on how exactly copyright law translates across countries, Because I do not live in USA.


American copyright sounds so messed up. I know here in Australia as soon as you create a piece whether it's art, music or anything inbetween, it is automatically protected from copyright. No patent or copyright approval needed.

Also, in Australia a piece is covered for the ENTIRETY OF A PERSONS LIFE PLUS 50 YEARS before falling into the public domain, and this cannot be altered in ANY WAY.

Another thing to add: I'm not sure this exists in America, but in Australia we have something called appropriation. What this means is that as long as you build upon the original piece your new piece is protected by copyright. This means that YTP's and the like are legally protected in Australia. Same goes for sampling music.

The 50 years after seems a bit excessive.


There should be a way to come right out and admit that "I don't own the song. Please put an ad on this and pay those who do." That way if someone makes a lyrics video, the right people get paid without a copyright strike.


People really need to protest against some of the laws,because this is getting TOO OUT OF HAND.


What I find incredibly stupid is if it can get caught by the content ID system, then why the hell when you upload a video can't you get...
"Youtube has detected this song by this artist at this time stamp: [tick all that apply]
1. This is incorrect.
2. I am the copyright holder.
3. I am licenced to use the copyrighted material.
4. Use of this copyrighted material is covered under the Fair Use exception.
5. Other - Including disputed claims, incorrect attribution, and issues of jurisdiction (please specify)
6. I would like to licence this copyrighted work for a one time limited use in this video (Free for up to 100,000 views per year and $20 flat rate for non-monetized videos or 2% gross revenue share for monetized videos).

And why when someone files a copyright claim, can't you get something along the lines of?

"Please submit this claim to be arbitrated by an independent 3rd party for a $25 fee (refunded if your appeal is upheld). Be aware making a false claim about copyright is a crime. A ruling by Youtube does not establish the fact of any copyright by law. Either party may still choose to file a legal claim in court under the DMCA, although failure to dispute an infringement when notified (within a reasonable period) may constitute consent to the specified use."

That would be sane and fair for everyone but the problem is these giant corporations don't care so much about the money (in these nickel and dime cases) but rather they don't want to establish any kind of legal precedent or surrender one single iota of their legal rights just in case it somehow massively matters in the future. I think they're concerned that copyright might go the same way as trademark law with a use it or lose it provision.


Pretty sure I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum politically given your example of a "radical" but goddamn not only do I hate copyright laws, I also hate the "giant media corps." I just want small business and small government goddammit. The US needs to open up the antitrust laws and start taking care of these massive conglomerates. Disney and Google come to mind


"Geriatric Turbo Boomers" is my new favorite phrase

@LordVader1094 heres the funny thing, the article sounds suspiciously unsure about what it'll be. and the mockup looks like someone did it in powerpoint. so i'm sure that they just wanted the phrase, no matter how much they have to lie

@Captain Mercury Yes. Here's an article explaining it: https://adage.com/article/media/fox-files-trademark-ok-boomer/2216566

@Otaku Person did they seriously tried to?

@Captain Mercury Just like how Fox tried to trade mark the phrase "ok boomer"


Change is very hard, especially against growing greed, we live in the second guided, age, after all. 100 year cycle 1920-2020 here we go again.


My whole view of the copyright system has been altered... Wow


Completely unrelated to the video, but i think something's wrong with YouTube (more than usual anyway). I've heard of people being mysteriously unsubscribed from YouTubers before, but it's never happened to me personally. However, just this morning i saw that i was unsubscribed from both Real Life Lore and EmpLemon, so idk what that's about.


Someone show this to the government. Now.


The copyright for music is so enforced because it's SO much easier to detect copyrighted music


"I don't see people rushing to relive public lynchings" I meeeaan... So long as the courts continue to ignore high crimes from the elite while punishing kids for having some weed, yeah, I know a lot of people that would love to take the law into their own hands.


Reminds me of when Sony and Naughty Dog kept copyright-striking internet users over discussing the last of us 2 before release.


I dig your music tastes, now let's hope that use of the instrumental version of Thick as a Brick by Jethro Toll doesn't get FUCKING CLAIMED!


One thing you've taught me is to not be a dead subscriber.

And I promise, I won't. Not for you, Emp. Thank you.

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"youtubers dont use copyrighted content because they hate media companies and want them to lose money." but thats my opinion exactly


this is why i love siivagunner, a channel made to make high quality rips of music with other songs or memes


I had a conversation with a musician a while ago who made the points that "he just wants to make sure he can live off his creations" and "wants to make sure his children will be able to as well" and then he whined about how hard it is to compete with piracy because it's free.
While I didn't agree, I respected his opinion and refrained from confronting him about it.

Having now heard the original premise of copyright law of course his point seems completely ridiculous, but it demonstrates that the misuse of it runs so deep that it doesn't even get picked up on anymore. Not resting on your laurels, my ass.

I had a conversation with a musician a while ago who made the points that "he just wants to make sure he can live off his creations" and *"wants to make sure his children will be able to as well"* and then he whined about how hard it is to compete with piracy because it's free.
While I didn't agree, I respected his opinion and refrained from confronting him about it.

Having now heard the original premise of copyright law of course his point seems completely ridiculous, but it demonstrates that the misuse of it runs so deep that it doesn't even get picked up on anymore. Not resting on your laurels, my ass.

"Copyright as it is fine right now, if it only benefits me of course"


If I had control of YouTube I would use it to war against the corporate media...not pander to it.


A thrilling conlcusion to the world renown, critically acclaimed series.

Good stuff as usual.

Emplemons content has gotten better and better ever since that comment put him on the downward spiral


ridge wallets are great but way too expensive, you can get the same thing on amazon for 15 bucks instead of 70, emp should put an amazon affiliate link to those instead


the madman went to The Swamp to make a 3 second clip of him dressed up as Joker Rick. What dedication.


The only thing i can see that would be a problem with copyright holders receiving a percentage of the earnings from a video as a whole is if some schlob decides to create a video where the copyrighted material is featured someplace within the video but the rest of the video could be anything else, stretched for hours even, of something not even remotely substantial like a blank canvas or non copyrighted visual to fill to the void. Like it or not i don't think that'll ever become a viable means of compromise in the youtube copyright landscape.


Copyright really has always confused me. In about every single instance, excluding full length unaltered copyrighted content, a copyright claim has done absolutely NOTHING to help the claimant, the claimed, nor the root problem. A clip or a portion of your content used by youtubers or simply by regular people making memes has ALWAYS, ALWAYS had a major impact on the popularity of that piece of content. If "Dragostea din tei" or the guy who danced to it, the "Numa Numa" guy, went around and pushed fair use laws on every video, neither the song nor the video would have gotten nearly as popular. Another example would be how Nintendo approached copyright with most of their games. They were very much opposed to let's players making content off their game on youtube, meanwhile actual developers and marketers with more than 2 working synapses in their brain PAID youtubers to make a let's play of their game.
Eat the rich, eat the old, eat copyright laws, eat my ass

Copyright really has always confused me. In about every single instance, excluding full length unaltered copyrighted content, a copyright claim has done absolutely NOTHING to help the claimant, the claimed, nor the root problem. A clip or a portion of your content used by youtubers or simply by regular people making memes has ALWAYS, *ALWAYS* had a major impact on the popularity of that piece of content. If "Dragostea din tei" or the guy who danced to it, the "Numa Numa" guy, went around and pushed fair use laws on every video, neither the song nor the video would have gotten nearly as popular. Another example would be how Nintendo approached copyright with most of their games. They were very much opposed to let's players making content off their game on youtube, meanwhile actual developers and marketers with more than 2 working synapses in their brain PAID youtubers to make a let's play of their game.
Eat the rich, eat the old, eat copyright laws, eat my ass


Who do these videos not have more than 5 mil views? And why doesn’t EmpLemon not have over a million subscribers? Great work and great video overall. Very helpful and important


Most of my music is uh...pretty illegal then. Of course I want to copyright it, but While its completely original composition-wise, I'm not sure if its possible to get it copyrighted since its almost 100% sampled.


Imagine you know a different and small independent website which is like YouTube 2005-2009 ... and not sharing it with anyone's to preserve it ... ;)


Toilet paper was invented in 1891.  This is the most informative and valuable part of the video to me.  It's eerie how recent in history that is.  Toilet paper has only existed for 118 years.  Before that, in tens of thousands of millions of years of human evolution, nobody had even conceptualized toilet paper.  They just accepted that, after they poop, there was nothing to wipe with, and nobody thought about it.


16:30 "You are impeding the progression of culture and art"
Man really do got a point, kinda sad to look at it that way


at first i thought youtube copyright system was a cringe compilation, but then i realised, it was a try not to laugh challenge


bro these vids are so underrated its actually scary how many people dont care about this shit


Honestly if the platform becomes too corporate, then ... Dailymotion? I don't think they have a downward spiral


Emplemon: Critiques Youtube

Youtube: This video has been taken down by youtube, it violates our new Harassment Policy

Emplemon: *Critiques Youtube*
Youtube: *This video has been taken down by youtube, it violates our new Harassment Policy*

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Literally everything Marvel has ever made should have been in the public domain for over 3 decades now. It's fucking insane.


19:14 millions of people paying a hundred dollars a year, plus ad revenue for the platform, should be enough money.


Sadly, patents don't really work like you said. They're mostly used by pharmaceutical corporations to sell cheaply produced medicine at an inflated price, while small inventors really don't have the resources to pay the patent lawyers and engage in court battles lasting years. Jörg Sprave has a pretty good video about the small guy's perspective on patents.

@Frank B  The corruption of intellectual property is horrible for everyone, except the super rich. It's honestly disgusting how much money can be made by "owning" an idea someone else tought of 50 years ago. These laws were supposed to help people get recognized for their work and make money from it, thus encouraging innovation and competition. Now, they're the weapons of ancient and huge corporations. These corporations wield them against the very people who are supposed to do the innovating by keeping ideas that should be public domain by any reasonable metric behind closed doors. This, besides killing competition, also gives them the ability to slowly raise prices while degrading quality. Who are you gonna turn to? Our up-and-coming competitors? The ones going bankrupt because we sued them into the ground? I don't care where you are on the political compass. If you lean left, hate this because it's used to concentrate power in the hands of the bourgeoisie while keeping the rest down. If you lean right, hate it because it kills the very free market that these companies owe their existence to. The people in charge of them believe in nothing except growing and maintaining their own power and money.

reminder that apple keeps the patent for circular pizza boxes in their dragon pile of patents, and worlds corp literally patented the concept of an mmo, has sued all of the big companies with mmos like blizzard... and they win. fucking insane.

Also, the 21 years are pretty easy to get around. They change the product enough that they can patent it as a new product, but little enough that if someone tries to produce the older version, there's enough similarities to sue them. This shouldn't really work, but the fact that the megacorporations have enough money for lawyers while their smaller would-be competitors really don't makes it work.


i feel like the corporate are about to reach a limit with the live action mulan and nintendo's switch being the last console, and friday night funkin expandong off of minecraft mods and undertale games/music and gary's mod with making your own crap and remaking the copryrighted stuff to avoid it's grasp but i have to say it's not exactly the step against but i feel like it can help with that with it being less tied to a theme or format


Good news about Happy Birthday! It's not actually under copyright because the claim was declared invalid in 2016


Imagine this being the first youtube video someone watches


Heh, This is why you should read the "Ego Book" (The Ego and His Own) by Max Stirner and "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. Copyright law is ultimately a spooky phantasm created by the ruling capitalist class as a way of rent-seeking for something that they mostly-likely didn't create or had a hand in creating. Not only that, it's also about power, if the rich and powerful can control the culture, they are able to send out their messages and propaganda more easily because they have almost unlimited power and a huge proverbial microphones (News Channels, Organizations, Movie Studios) that the average person doesn't not, so the ideas of the capitalists are the ones that get heard and accepted by the majority.


What Needs to Happen with Copyright:
-Music sampling needs to be considered fair use
-Duration time needs to be cut down to 60-70 years
-Fan works should probably also be considered fair use (Although i'm not sure)
-Revenue Sharing with copyright holder and the user who used the copyright (again, not sure how this would work in Youtube's case)
-Video Sharing Sites should be more diligent to point out what fair use is and isn't. (Edit: I change my opinion this rule. Safe Habor basically makes this impossible)

Guvyyg Vuhh fan works and sampling are not fair use.

The first 3 points are already fair use, but no corporate cares about fair use, they just want to make 0.0001% more money

@Gorionus Patents are usually for 14 years. Why would you bring copyright down to that level?

@The Plains Jam bring that down to patent like amount for small works (pretty much anything), and a authors lifetime for bigger works (fantasy universes, etc.). It should be pretty fair that way.

@Filthy Casual I feel like a lot of people aren't understanding what I mean by "duration." When I'm talking about 60-70 year number, I'm talking about if the holder wants to RENEW that copyright. I don't know any small holder who would want to renew their property for another 35 years unless it did reach to the status of Star Wars. The 60-70 is not a guarantee, it's just choice.

Also, I don't like this argument of "new ideas can come to franchises from before". I do like to see different interpretations of properties (this is why I was excited for Brightburn even though it was a mediocre movie), but I think stories inspired by those properties can turn out even better than just doing imaginings. Like for example, Undertale is largely inspired by Earthbound and RPGs like it. Would Undertale be as remembered today if it was simply a retelling of Earthbound, or another sequel not from Shigesato itoi? I'm not opposed to different people reimaging or adding to other ideas in stories (this is why I recommend we make fanfiction fair-use), but I think it's overall better that we can be inspired by the ideas of past content to make something new. People remember the story the wizard of oz, but no one remembers the other books written by other people no matter how good they are.  Everyone knows about Tarzan of the apes, but not the other books by different people that came after. Most people don't know what the fuck Flash Gordon is, but you bet your sweet ass they know what Star Wars is which was one of the inspirations of star wars. Would Star Wars be a bit hit if it was a massive reimaging of flash gordan?

@The Plains Jam So if you ask me to bring you a few slices of pie, I should give you six or seven slices?  Out of eight?

I think seventy years of copyright protection is ludicrous.  Most IPs have a shelf life of about a decade or two, unless they're owned by one of the three HUGE conglomerates; in which case, an IP can be sequel'd, rebooted, and spinoff'd indefinitely.  They're their most popular in the first year or so, then get some longevity out of merch sales, maybe conferences if it's a REALLY big IP.  When they stop making money, what's their value to the copyright holder except as a way to rent sit, and make sure nobody can use those settings and characters to tell new stories?  (Nevermind that fan fiction is a thing, and this happens all the time without people getting stuffed by copyright holders; and the copyright holders either don't care or aren't aware, because fan fiction doesn't impact their bottom line.)

Seventy years is the greater part of anybody's lifespan.  To reference your earlier example of citing "A New Hope", I actually had some ideas on how you could fix the "Star Wars" prequels.  I'd also be eighty before "Revenge of the Sith" would enter public domain.  So, what would be the point?  I could maybe bask in a decade of my earned wealth before dying - or drink myself out of shame to an early grave - and then nobody could give their take on my take until 2145 - nearly a century and a half after the original rendition.

As a guy trying to make video games, I'd be happy for my IPs to enter the public domain after about thirty years post publication.  That's plenty of time for that initial sales boom, plus retro sales after twelve to fifteen years.  Assuming it didn't flop on arrival; and even so, I'd be fine with releasing an IP nobody cared about into the wild to see whether or not someone else would pick it up and see if they could fix it.

The problem I think everyone has with your perspective is that it's not got sufficient justification.  You say this: "Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue."  It's not wrong on principle, but that reasoning can only stretch so far.  Certainly not "infinitely into the future", like one of your posts suggested.  Contrary to what you think, validity requires validation, and you can't even convince people that seventy years is an okay time frame.

@The Plains Jam So if you ask me to bring you a few slices of pie, I should give you six or seven slices?  Out of eight?

I think seventy years of copyright protection is ludicrous.  Most IPs have a shelf life of about a decade or two, unless they're owned by one of the three HUGE conglomerates; in which case, an IP can be sequel'd, rebooted, and spinoff'd indefinitely.  They're their most popular in the first year or so, then get some longevity out of merch sales, maybe conferences if it's a REALLY big IP.  When they stop making money, what's their value to the copyright holder _except_ as a way to rent sit, and make sure nobody can use those settings and characters to tell new stories?  (Nevermind that fan fiction is a thing, and this happens all the time without people getting stuffed by copyright holders; and the copyright holders either don't care or aren't aware, because fan fiction doesn't impact their bottom line.)

Seventy years is the greater part of anybody's lifespan.  To reference your earlier example of citing "A New Hope", I actually had some ideas on how you could fix the "Star Wars" prequels.  I'd also be _eighty_ before "Revenge of the Sith" would enter public domain.  So, what would be the point?  I could maybe bask in a decade of my earned wealth before dying - or drink myself out of shame to an early grave - and then nobody could give their take on _my_ take until 2145 - nearly a _century and a half_ after the original rendition.

As a guy trying to make video games, I'd be happy for my IPs to enter the public domain after about thirty years post publication.  That's plenty of time for that initial sales boom, plus retro sales after twelve to fifteen years.  Assuming it didn't flop on arrival; and even so, I'd be fine with releasing an IP nobody cared about into the wild to see whether or not someone else would pick it up and see if they could fix it.

The problem I think everyone has with your perspective is that it's not got sufficient justification.  You say this: "Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue."  It's not wrong on principle, but that reasoning can only stretch so far.  Certainly not "infinitely into the future", like one of your posts suggested.  Contrary to what you think, validity requires validation, and you can't even convince people that seventy years is an okay time frame.

what needs to happen with copyright:<br>GET RID OF IT ENTIRELY

what needs to happen with copyright:
GET RID OF IT ENTIRELY

The Plains Jam that profit security sounds like welfare and do people even live that long when life span varied when renewing copyright isn't that hard to do 60-70 it's at best ridiculous<br>edit:I take that back when a copyright can be renewed a company like disney will still abuse it heck thats what they are doing to the mouse I just believe you need to be reasonable over the period of copyright before it become public domain

The Plains Jam that profit security sounds like welfare and do people even live that long when life span varied when renewing copyright isn't that hard to do 60-70 it's at best ridiculous
edit:I take that back when a copyright can be renewed a company like disney will still abuse it heck thats what they are doing to the mouse I just believe you need to be reasonable over the period of copyright before it become public domain

@DawnPraiser Well that's just it. The timescale is completely arbitrary and non-objective. I can just as easily say that every copyrighted work should never go into the public domain forcibly and have that be valid. I'm just basing my number on security  than anything else. I'd rather have my content be commercially viable for atleast a couple decades just ensure that it makes a profit that i'm satisfied with.

@The Plains Jam
when i think about copyright, i first pay attention to how much and how long should an entity hold the right to control, restrict and profit from their content. however, your points regarding cultural and creative relevance in the eyes of the public or consumers strikes me odd.

happy birthday is a cultural icon ingrained within the English language for as long as a century and a couple decades. even today, and i think for decades to come, happy birthday will be sung by children, kids and ecstatic parents on their child's birthday. should the descendants of the holder of happy birthday own the right to control and restrict the derivative work of a 100+ years old work? not to mention the fact that these descendants have nothing to do with the musical composition itself, although it's culturally relevant.

i don't think cultural relevance should play a part that large as to lock any creative derivatives for a whole generation. although rare, cultural relevance itself can last as long as possible and theoretically spanning centuries. so basing the expiration of copyright ownership completely on cultural relevance sounds completely bogus if content can last as long as centuries (consider religion, written text, arts from past civilisations still inspiring artists today). i think you'll agree with me on this hence why you chose a new hope.

where should we draw the line for when a creative work should enter a domain? both yours and mine are completely arbitrary choices. mine based on assuming that someone makes content in his/her 20s and no longer can profit off royalties from it after his/her 60-70s. additionally assuming that someone in his/her 10-20s would no longer be satisfied with nostalgia after his/her 50-60s/60-70s if not already forgotten.

@DawnPraiser So, when it comes to making my argument for this, I usually think about the company or person first before anything else. I think that 60-70 years is adequate simply because it gives the creator a great amount of time for their creation to make money and for the creation to somewhat be relevant in the public eye so that people can use the property when it goes public domain. For example, a new hope is about 43 years old, if we were to go by my guidelines, it would be public domain in about 23 years from now which would be 2043. It does seem like a long while, but being such a cultural icon it would stay pretty relevant for a long while.

@The Plains Jam
1970s is certainly the forgotten and unappreciated nostalgia of this decade and last decade. arguably the 80s too, to a much lesser degree. so 40-50 years is adequate though. the fans and creators inspired by the work of that time now can offer a new look, a different perspective a modern piece completely separated from the olde times.

still, why do you believe that 60-70 years is suitable, considering it covers the entirety of an authors lifespan (assuming one made it when she's 20)? imagine living off the monetary compensation in your retirement — is this reasonable that you're cockblocked by some hag that made something before your parents ever born, punishing your new rendition and artistic work (or bootleg)?

i don't like the attitude of limiting a form of creative work in the span of half a century. However, seeing the current length of copyright only makes me weep so any improvement is acceptable. 40 years should be enough to milk a franchise dry to the bones, and punish everyone else's creativity or lack thereof. personally though, i would rather avoid companies abusing that single success product to the point of boredom uncreativity. and 40-50 years is already long enough that people have move onto new styles and expressions of creativity.

Guardian No, that’s literally no time at all. 60-70 years is adequate time and a natural evolution to the provision before it took a giant leap.

@Woo Six I don't agree.<br>Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue. 30 years, although seems like a long time, in reality isn't. I mean like the 1990s were 30 years ago and almost seems like they were still 20 years ago. Somethings take a bit more time to generate a good amount of money or popularity. Having the copyright time be 60, 70 or hell even 50 years would give the copyright holder enough time for the product to make money and have other creators use these stories later on in the future.

@Woo Six I don't agree.
Copyright is to protect creators for having their properties taken by other entites, aswell as generate them revenue. 30 years, although seems like a long time, in reality isn't. I mean like the 1990s were 30 years ago and almost seems like they were still 20 years ago. Somethings take a bit more time to generate a good amount of money or popularity. Having the copyright time be 60, 70 or hell even 50 years would give the copyright holder enough time for the product to make money and have other creators use these stories later on in the future.

The Plains Jam patents are 20 years. 30 makes it so copyrighted stuff can expire within a lifetime, which is good, because then the author/media conglomerates can’t really on the safe stuff for all their life, and are obligated to create new original IPs. This also means that authors can use copyrighted stuff in the public domain that came out when they where alive and thus has still at least some cultural relevance. Not a lot of stuff is that interesting from 70 years ago.

Woo Six 60-70 is good enough by its own. The issue is then when you do it + life of author, it lasts too long

@Woo Six Dude, 30 is way too little. 70 would be the natural evolution of the previous laws years.

Kendell well okay, let’s actually test this hypothesis. Let’s say I upload a compilation of clips from a certain show that have no commentary. They’re placed in a top ten order or anything, they’re cuts up from the show. Would this be considered fair use?

@The Plains Jam Straight-up rips of something, more towards bootlegging reuploads.

Kendell Okay, but what would you define as uncreative? Especially in court, what exactly be the standard?

@The Plains Jam Didn't OP exclude "uncreative rips with no derivative merit?"

@cédric léonard That first one is straight up no for me dawg. Everything being fair use is gonna lead to a lot of bullshit with property theft.

How'd this be?
-Everything is fair use except uncreative rips that have no derivative merit.
-Appeals get reviewed by a jury of random, authentic users with incentives to make correct judgements. Only authentic users that prove their genuine activity have a right to have this.
-Claimants must be authentic in some way, too.
-False claims revoke the right to claim for a period of time.

@The Plains Jamsorry, kinda misread that

Bird Brain Lol why? That would literally be 35 years of og copyright and 35 years of renewal if wanted.

60-70 is way too danm long<br>I'd cut it down to atleast 30

60-70 is way too danm long
I'd cut it down to atleast 30


10:10 it’s the golden rule man. The law is written by the monied interest for the monied interest. Ie..the rich, whether people or corporation.


15:26 true Congress dosnt want to try and solve actual problems when they can just fuck around with trying to impeach trump while living the lives of billionaires


Oh boy, wait till this guy realizes just how terribly the patent system also works.
Literally the exact opposite as how you described it. Look it up.
Both copyright and patent laws are a serious mess.


Nice use of Thick As A Brick, Emp. Love your use of Prog


I remember when this guy did a documentary on Leafy

I remember when he made YouTube Poops, Spongebob ones, even.

Remember when he did a rant about his viewerbase?
Remember when he did a dank meme montage?
Remember when he complained?
Remember when he did a youtube poop?
EmpLemon constantly metamorphozises

Wow! What a useful comment! It clearly shows us what videos this guy makes! Haha! It’s not totally garbage humour you’re using haha!

i remember when he started back up on spinge bill

I only hope we get more YouTube Geographic and Never Ever videos.

That was a good documentary. Did you see the one he did on Stanislav Petrov?

and it still had the same premise of yt intentionally destroying creators

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i see you emp, changing the title and thumbnail after mentioning it in your video about thumbnails.<br>hope it works out for u xoxo

i see you emp, changing the title and thumbnail after mentioning it in your video about thumbnails.
hope it works out for u xoxo


i literally had no idea that rusty cage has been in my life for over eight years through the knife game song


6:52 speaking about Disney and Mickey Mouse, i have to say something here, i'm from Paraguay, and in here we have a company of condiments and spices that's literally called Mickey that uses the face of Mickey Mouse, Disney of course took action, but lost several times, the company is still living to this day.

Quien ganara:
Una compañía internacional multibillonaria o
Algunos chicos picantes?


Send this in any way through other social media’s and other sources, this needs sto be heard


The frequent talk of corporatism, muddled edits of copyrighted content, looped video, and general mood of anger and fucked up. This would be a nightmare to watch on acid