Don’t call copyright a joke. Jokes are funny. This is a slow, painful, death of an old friend.

It's beating the swept away ashes of a dead horse

More like a child dying of cancer and not being able to live his final wish of seeing the blue skies of the countryside.

Not gonna lie, they had us in the first half

Harry O'Byrne    Neither is YouTube. YouTube only seeks to ensure that the site can legally exist and that copyright holders and advertisers are happy with the process of making money. They don’t care about independent creators and haven’t for a long time. Most people have to network a social media influence to make a decent profit off of their content while also being under the boot of copyright law and YT and others weird changes to the algorithm.

Theguyonthetv 27 I’m talking about how YouTube is being destroyed by copyright. YouTube is the old friend in the analogy

Harry O'Byrne   No use in calling something that has been morphed into a corporate powerhouse of corruption an “old friend”. Copyright law is only what it is now, and shouldn’t be emphasized with for what it was for a tiny sliver of time.

Copyright is a joke, but we aren't the one's laughing

This is more sad and pathetic, like an orphan with no hands... or legs... with progeria

Harry O'Byrne --- It could be a joke in 1790-1800.

Sherlock Well, those people were talking about literal jokes. This here is a metaphorical joke that’s not trying to be comedic. This is completely different.

I think I've heard people use those exact words to silence comedians and free speech for being offensive to the overly sensitive society that exists today.


Can you please stop wearing joker face paint irl? The locals are starting to complain

ALL YOU EVER DO IS COMPLAIN
COMPLAIN
COMPLAIN
COMPLAIN
COMPLAIN

Hmm im copyrighting your picture whatever company copyrighted this comment&picture of commneter

I think the pickle costume mitigated that.

@Alex Swin 2.  I watched this, the whole thing, its akin to a train wreck full of screaming burning clowns, you just can't look away.

Rusty Cage <br>“All you ever do is complain”

Rusty Cage
“All you ever do is complain”

Is the clown version of the background music on your soundcloud?

@Randy Laffy Ayyy a man of culture, mob of the dead?

I'm GONNA BREAK MY RUSTY CAAAAAGE AND RUN!

Thats not face paint, that is the pure and utter molecular structure of pain inside his DNA. Eroding his outer organs and changing it into something more corrupt and dangerous.

@Trash Man it's taken a while to get around


Nickelodeon holds a copyright over Tom Kenny's Spongebob voice acting.
His. Own. Voice.

Nickelodeon holds a copyright over Tom Kenny's Spongebob voice acting.
*His. Own. Voice.*

This is two years late, but when it comes to animation, it is incrediably common for companies to own the voices of their actors/actresses. Ridiculous? Yes. But common none the less.

unlike other artists, im sure he got payed handsomely

Bro we really about to become mutes, how long until fucking ASL is copyrighted

well, that's not wrong exactly, I am quite sure the actor signed some contract. So there is nothing unreasonable there

Imagine his life every day after work not being able to speak. Poor guy...

@Madison Interesting. Did Pixar have to get permission from them to use Muhammad Ali in Soul, since he's seen as one of 22's mentors?

@Skipper Blue Still waiting for your response to USS Liberty....

Now voices are getting copywrited?
"WHAT IS THIS, THE SECRET COPYWRITING FACILITY? DAMN..... FUCK..... FUCK" - unused cj voice clip from San andreas
(oh wait, I'm getting copywrited claimed for that, but who cares anymore)

I’m alittle late to this comment, the funny thing is (as far as I know) he first used that voice in Mission Hill as a Star Wars actor who played an ewok.

@Skipper Blue Counter counter argument: Someone accepting an employment contract does not make said contract just. Many professional voice actors star in dozens of roles throughout their careers, even talented voice actors have a limit to how many distinct voices they can do. Many VAs are cast for a particular role because of the way their voice sounds in the first place Eddie Murphy, Tom Hanks, Gilbert Gotfried, Arnold Schwarzenegar. If you weren't allowed to sound like any existing versions of your own voice, casting directors would never be able to use any of your work as a reference point.

Your painting metaphor is poorly conceived. A voice actor is commissioned to read scripts in the way that artists are to paint. The performance is the end product, as is the painting. Copyrighting a voice is more akin to copyrighting an artist's brushstroke tecnique.

counter argument: they paid tom kenny for the character voice and he agreed to the contract. he can still use a different voice for a different character in the future. <br>its the same thing as you commissioning an artist to paint a picture for you. you paid for the work, you oversaw its development and ordered changes to it to fit your goal, you deserve to own it

counter argument: they paid tom kenny for the character voice and he agreed to the contract. he can still use a different voice for a different character in the future.
its the same thing as you commissioning an artist to paint a picture for you. you paid for the work, you oversaw its development and ordered changes to it to fit your goal, you deserve to own it

if tom kenny speaks in public he gets sued for copyright violation

Surely it would be that they own the rights to Tom Kenny’s portrayal of Spongebob. Tom Kenny would be free to come up with other character voices, much like other voice actors would.

@Bri Granger Looks like her entire career ended up not being worth it.

No wonder the reignited trilogy sounded different

@Mr. Moron Couldn't I just make a pact with some Eldritch god and have their madness engulf the earth?

@Danny Caracciolo
heres a step-by-step guide to do it

step 1: run for president
step 2: look for the most minor problem/war someone is already handling... lets say Russia.
step 3: in the war zone, make a no-fly zone
step 4: act surprised when Russia gets pissed about it
step 5: go to war
step 6: get a relative with no idea whats gonna happen and put them in the nuclear launch prevention system tons of other presidents tried to build.
step 7: make the system glitch out making it look like multiple nukes are coming
step 8: enter a fallout shelter
step 9: profit.

ALTERNATIVELY

step 1: become a celebrity (cardashian status or higher or it wont work)
step 2: point out false info and correct it
step 3: point out a ton of shady shit that happens all the time by Disney etc and give proof
step 4: tell the world if the show gets put offline due to "court stuff" (Disney etc suing you) that it means you were right and they should boycott them
step 5: run a fundraising campaign to show to the world what is happening.
step 6: show the world even more shit using advertisements
step 7: rise to HUGE wealth
step 8: start pulling some strings behind the scene yourself to correct everything
step 9: save your money and push multiple fundraisers to make the world a better place
step 10: using the money you saved, bribe the judges to undo most laws pushed to make their brands stay in their hands

step 11(a): win the battle, and get a foothold in the government where you can make country good again.
step 12(a): profit

step 11(b): lose the battle, and lose everything, but forcing the other companies to scramble, causing a breakdown as opinions by the higher ups are too divided to keep the company afloat, causing the weaker brands to fall, and the stronger ones to show their weak point, and showing to the mass public that they should not let them rise to that power, causing a mass riot and boycot of those brands, causing them to fall as well.
step 12(b): profit

That’s true for most voice actors that are employed by large companies.

@Bri Granger that's just cruel and stupid. Like what's the point of that other than to ruin a career?

That's literally the stupidest form of copyright there is.

companies can own something YOU own. its kinda scary isnt it?

@Otaku Person no no no This is more of a tzeench ordeal but above all<br>FOR MONTAZON

@Otaku Person no no no This is more of a tzeench ordeal but above all
FOR MONTAZON

I'm late to this chain but Disney did that with the voice actor for Snow White so that her voice would remain unique to the princess and basically meant the poor voice actress could never work again the the industry

Yare yare daze, ever since copyright appeared on YouTube, its been literal hell, and it technically ruined the platform

There was one episode of "Blue's Clues" where, for a brief moment,  Steve does a silly Elvis impression. That episode in particular went unaired for an entire year while legal rights to the voice were negotiated. It's at this point when Nick should've realized copywriting a voice is a terrible idea that ruins everything for everyone, but NAH.

You think that’s bad, there’s this brand management company called Authentic Brands Group that holds likeness rights to dead celebrities like Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, and Muhammad Ali.


I legit cannot stand copyright<br>A few months back a 5 year old died of cancer and his father wanted a spider man themed funeral to commemorate his son's hero, however disney didnt allow it, because they didnt want their brand to associated with death

I legit cannot stand copyright
A few months back a 5 year old died of cancer and his father wanted a spider man themed funeral to commemorate his son's hero, however disney didnt allow it, because they didnt want their brand to associated with death

@Jared Johnson Oh ok thanks for correcting me🙏🏾

@temfx Sony owns the movie rights to Spider-Man, Disney owns the rest as there have been Spider-Man cartoons on Disney networks

WHAT THE FUCK THOUGH THEY'VE MADE SO MANY MOVIES ASSOCIATED WITH DEATH

Because, if there's one thing Peter "Lost His Parents, Uncle, Best Friend And At Least Two Girlfriends" Parker should never be associated with, is death.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Sony owns the Spider-Man ip right?

remember how a large part of Walt Disney's start in the industry was painting characters of fighter jets in ww2?

@AwesomeDud3 <br>I guess Uncle Ben didn’t really die, he just disappeared with “DiSnEY mAgIc”

@AwesomeDud3
I guess Uncle Ben didn’t really die, he just disappeared with “DiSnEY mAgIc”

On a similar note, at least it was a good thing he checked, I remember someone being sued after someone saw there kids superhero themed tombstone and in the end had to replace it and pay a fine..

Bruh the reason Spider-Man exists in the first place is because Uncle Ben dies

@S_prite well if you don’t pay for a Disney movie there will be no more movies.
I’m a big Nintendo fan but I hate what they have done.
But I still buy games because they make good games.
Remember, not everybody in the company is an asshole.

@S_prite well if you don’t pay for a Disney movie there *will be no more movies.*
I’m a big Nintendo fan but I hate what they have done.
But I still buy games because they make good games.
Remember, not everybody in the company is an asshole.

Ironic that a year later and Marvel would basically be a decomposing corpse.

That would be Trademark though, unless they were going to use a specific image to use.<br>Trademarks usually have to do with the “brand.”

That would be Trademark though, unless they were going to use a specific image to use.
Trademarks usually have to do with the “brand.”

oh my god.
Oh my god.
Okay, that's it, I am not ever paying for a disney movie again.

I remember that. He should have done it anyways and dared them to sue.

Can you even imagine how much damage that would have done to their brand? The irony would have been palpable.

I remember that. He should have done it anyways and dared them to sue.

Can you even *imagine* how much damage that would have done to their brand? The irony would have been palpable.


You know its really bad when you buy a godamn physical copy of a game (original), for the console you bought (ps4), you use the native recording function, have your time spent on studying the game, the region of it, making a sort of review of it, enhancing it on the native ps4 editor, and uploads it from the console through its native interface to youtube. And get copyright striked not by the music , nor by the game maker, but from IGN !!!

Literally i would be kinda okay with it if it was the music the game played tha looked like pretty much copyrighted material in the scene after the piece that was claimed, or even that ubisoft that made the actuall game, but no, i was copyrighted because one scene of the game appeared in IGN's trailer for THAT GAME , how tf is even IGN holder of the copyright of the game??

I bought that damn thing, used the cherrypicked sony recording function that only allows what sony wants to be recorded, and yet i was copyright claimed by a company that has nothing to do with neither the game or its actual copyright holder.

(The game was far cry 4, the scene was the beggining of the game where you are kidnapped into Pagan Min's hellicopter with a rag on your face).

You know its really bad when you *buy* a godamn physical copy of a game (original), for the console you bought (ps4), you use the *native* recording function, have your time spent on studying the game, the region of it, making a sort of review of it, enhancing it on the native ps4 editor, and uploads it from the console through its native interface to youtube. And get copyright striked *not by the music* , nor by the game maker, but from *IGN* !!!

Literally i would be kinda okay with it if it was the music the game played tha looked like pretty much copyrighted material in the scene after the piece that was claimed, or even that ubisoft that made the actuall game, but no, *i was copyrighted because one scene of the game appeared in IGN's trailer for THAT GAME* , how tf is even IGN holder of the copyright of the game??

I bought that damn thing, used the cherrypicked sony recording function that only allows what sony wants to be recorded, and yet i was copyright claimed by a company that has nothing to do with neither the game or its actual copyright holder.

(The game was far cry 4, the scene was the beggining of the game where you are kidnapped into Pagan Min's hellicopter with a rag on your face).

Same eith castle crashers uploaded a video of the ending at it was copy right claimed for music FROM THE GAME

Possible bcz YT copy(no)right system allows it and its stupidly easy to abuse

Eduardo Avila This is the classic case of a misguided terrorized non-radical. You refuse to rebel against a government who institutes laws and has its ties directly in the same pie as corporations (they make money when corporations make money utilizing their laws and system, as well as getting direct gratification knowing their system is being justified by that same corporate conglomerate when they utilize it to claim content) but you’ll gladly fight a losing a battle, i.e. wipe the make up off the corporations faces by exposing their indiscriminate and arguably disingenuous use of the copyright system, instead of just attacking the root source of the issue, that being the government that will defend corporations that utilize this broken system to the day it dies simply to gain more revenue and justification for its existence.

People that fail to realize, or refuse to accept in some cases, the fact that corporations and government are one in the same, are the same people that will fight to the teeth about a specific partisan issue, but will refuse to acknowledge just how bad their own partisan ideas and ideals are on society. The left-right paradigm of politics has us fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting elite conglomerate that want to see us fail. The center left is anti-government but pro-corporation, they want the government to stop fighting pointless money wars but they won’t bat an eye at corporations utilizing children or underpaying workers as long as they get their fair share of the outcome. The center right is fairly anti-corporation, they believe corporations are against American ideals and that the underpayment of workers is an inherent flaw to the American economy, while in the same vein allowing the government to pursue pointless and harmful wars and excursions because “muh freedom and democracy.” Instead of just being aware of both of the issues laid out and realizing that both corporations and government have their own interests in mind, not our own as the people, they fight to ignore the issues in their own ideals while indiscriminately attacking the other side for being wrong entirely. And this is just on the average, centerist American view, not even touching on the radicalized and politicized far right and left ideologies that plague internet spheres and college campuses alike.

We’re coming to a head, whether it’s with all the current events that have occurred over the past few months or if it’s because of a growing bubble waiting to be popped within the radical sphere that’s been waiting to pop for years, there’s no denying that the political landscape of the Western world has been on the steady decline in terms of actually getting anything done and helping the people that need it the most. The inevitable ultimatum is the agreement of all that the government has done and the fact that it is simply misguided steps in an end goal of helping the population, which I argue is a willfully ignorant and, in a sense, stupidly optimistic outlook, or you agree that what the government has been doing to the population for decades is in fact not a place that we should be seeing ourselves head and that we must take a stance against it entirely or simply let it consume our society until we’ve got no choice but to submit to its monopolistic tendencies. The choice is given, now you must choose.

@Eduardo Avila <br>Poha ai fode mesmo, tomara que no futuro essas compania que fica usando area cinza da lei pra ganhar dinheiro acabem sendo multadas ou outra coisa assim

@Eduardo Avila
Poha ai fode mesmo, tomara que no futuro essas compania que fica usando area cinza da lei pra ganhar dinheiro acabem sendo multadas ou outra coisa assim

@Ruustic I think i tried to do that in the past, but it got denied.

Anyway i deleted my youtube channel because i didn't like the way it was going anyways.
I still dislike IGN tho.

You should appeal it, and explain it... usually it gets cleared up! I've done that multiple times last week, since I started my daily morning show

@【 Chilael 】 É issae véi, foda mesmo. Desisti de gravar far cry 4 depois dessa.
E percebi o quanto a ign é grande e tbm sacana.
Ela fez isso em vários vídeos de gente q criticava ela tbm.

@Eduardo Avila É foda manin, mas eu to fazendo esse comentário só pra te dizer que eu sei que tu é br.

@Tom Hill So.. the law allows a random company to say it has the copyright to a material it hasn't done?
And the law can break its own rules with the fair usage act?

Nah i don't think so.

If ubisoft did flag me, as i said, i would be fine with it, after all, they made the game, the trailers for the game. Not a random shit youtube channel wanting to profit on other person's videos.

Detail, i wans't making a single penny out of the works of ubisoft! Bur ign can make money out of my and ubisoft's work? What?

And no, i'm not willing to reb agains laws, but against shitty companies wich use and abuse of breachs in the law.

That's how the law works! You ready to rebel yet?


Who else is astonished by the fact that you never knew that copyrights expired after some time and became public domain? It’s almost like some people don’t want you to know that

i knew it already because this isn't the first time it has been brought up

@Noods and Co good news, the rat is gonna be public domain soon

The only reason I know that is through YouTubers talking about Tylenol

@Them because pepole cant get 2,4K comments in 2 weeks

sarah kerr why would I do anything for Internet numbers

I am amazed at how many people don't know that, it's actually intuitive.

@Please Respond Yes. The fault in that comparison is the fact that intellectual property is not property. If I copy a song to my computer, then I'm not touching the creator's stuff, I'm just rearranging my own bits on my own computer. The creator will still get to keep his song. So a better comparison would that if I did not drive for a week then other people would be allowed to copy my car or buy the same model. Or if I own a house then after 20 years other people would be allowed to make copies of my house.

If you've ever taken an entry level media course, this is week 2 info. Including the proper information about the public domain and songs like "Happy Birthday" are in the public domain despite the fact that this video mischaracterized that bit of info.

@Please Respond who ever (if anyone) thinks that way is either willfully ignorant or just ignorant. A non-sequitur in its truest and most pure form...

@Tom Hill no public domain is how that's possible. I'm not talking about bootlegs, im talking about the DVDs in walmart or target that are obviously legal products. They use public domain movies so they cant be sued. I'm well aware of bootlegs (especially in the music world, but also in film) and that's not what I'm referring to.

@Bilb Ono Bootlegging is how that's possible. Those people live in a van, good luck suing them, they'll move.

I've known that things go into the public domain, but I had NO idea that the public domain itself had been made to progress so slowly, and that the copyright laws were extended so vastly and egregiously. The obvious stain of corporate interest permeates even creative protection, how sad.

I mean, it’s pretty accessible information. You can literally look it up in the web.

This information is public domain, also common sense.

Them

*Happy Birthday has left the chat*

"And why should copyrights expire!? The very notion is ridiculous - expiration of property. Like imagine if you own a house and your ownership of it expired after 20 years, after which anyone could move in for free! Or if your car became "public domain" if you don't drive it for a week." -- some absolute bellend in Disney.

@Timivision Ooh, Checkmark! That's a good one.

Just checked. It looks like Hinky Dinky Parley Voo had its copywrite renewed in 2018 by IMI. Sad times all around. Guess we have to wait another 94 years.

I mainly knew about it from stuff like internet Archive and being a history nerd. Fun fact, as of 2020, works from 1924 will be in the public domain because copywrite lasts 96 years. I'm sure everyone is happy to be able to use Hinky Dinky Parley Voo in their videos. Of course, assuming another company hasn't made a cover of it and renewed its copywrite.

Information about public domain has always been available, theres no money to be made it letting people know stuff is public domain so people arent shouting about it.

Whats the real bad thing is how they’re constantly and quietly trying to extend it indefinitely just to squeeze money out of anything created, forever after it was created.

@Marek Adams now you've stared into the abyss & realised, that you've been inside it all this time.

an unexpected downward spiral.

i knew public domain existed, just saw the over 100 year count, and wondered "What in the world, who decided this?"

And now I know.

I only know that it expires some time after the artists death because the Bethoven family was in the news tryna do something about it

shortening it to 27 years after creation or whatever it was originally would be so much better

Lol I'm not sure what you mean.. There are adults that don't know about the public domain? What? That's some pretty damn secluded people. Have you never bought those DVD packs back in the early 2000s with like 30 movies on them from different studios and wondered how that's possible?..

We had to learn that in school but I thought it was 100 years rather than 70.

Oh I knew and that's what makes copyright issues more annoying to think about.

sup them. We Like Fortnite! We Like Fortnite!!!!

With how many extensions the mouse has gotten by greasing palms and extorting, it might as well be never.


Remember:
You can always pirate films, TV programs, music, books, and audiobooks
And
It is always morally correct

Remember:
You can always pirate films, TV programs, music, books, and audiobooks
And
It is *always* morally correct


The "law" is basically just whoever can abuse the system will, and everyone else gets shit on<br>Kinda like rich people and tax evasion

The "law" is basically just whoever can abuse the system will, and everyone else gets shit on
Kinda like rich people and tax evasion

Basically, the public domain is suffering dreadfully and the corporations don't care

@jooot_ exactly! We are number 1 always in every way and if you say otherwise then you are wrong

@jooot_ yeah america wants to be number one for every possible thing (including bad stuff)

What seperates a government from a gang? What seperates theft from tax? What seperates murder from government admistered lethal injection? what seperates gang violence from war? Governments and gangs are only seperated by their power. Although, we cannot survive effectively without co-operation and at least a small amount of government, so why not remove all things that make the government bad? Why have presidents and prime ministers when we can have a direct democracy instead where people are much freer than now? It's because direct democracy only works on smaller scales, so maybe representatives with no actual power who are picked by random and stay for only about a week?

 uhhhh oh no I should stop rambling to myself about Anarchy

@jooot_ People, typically, don't wanna murder others. I'm gonna be honest, this ain't really shocking.

@jooot_ Doesn't stop anything. Relying on the piggies is a bad idea.

@Kurt what abt places outside of the US? much as we like to imagine, it is not the center of the universe...

@jooot_ Because, at least in the US, most people have fucking guns.

@Kurt Really? Why aren't murder rates higher, then?

at least it stops my neighbors to murder me in cold blood


11:34
To put that into perspective, Hawaii was still an independent nation in 1893. It was the year Huey Long was born. The world's first motion picture studio had just finished construction. The world's first college basketball game had occurred. Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire still had another 2 decades of life left. The Congo Free State was still around (the one run by Leopold II). The Orange Free State was still around. The Utah war was still a matter of debate. The very first Parliament of the World's Religions was hosted. Happy Birthday was published the same year as all of this, and it is STILL in copyright.

Also 1893 was 20 years before the Wild West ended and three years after the Wounded Knee massacre aka the last battle between the US Army and native Americans.

LITERALLY NO LIVING PERSON ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN ROCK WAS EVEN ALIVE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE.
NOBODY ALIVE WAS THERE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE
A N D     I T    S T I L L    W A S N ' T    I N     T H E   P U B L I C    D O M A I N    U N T I L    2 0 1 6

LITERALLY NO LIVING PERSON ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN ROCK WAS EVEN ALIVE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE.
*_NOBODY ALIVE WAS THERE WHEN THE SONG WAS MADE_*
*_A N D     I T    S T I L L    W A S N ' T    I N     T H E   P U B L I C    D O M A I N    U N T I L    2 0 1 6_*

@shelvacu the copyright was only invalidated in 2016, this is still fucking absurd

The happy birthday song is uncopyrighted as of 2016, so the last thing you said isn't true. But still, I agree, that is totally insane.

So what you're saying is...<br>Somebody should claim copyright on Hawaii.

So what you're saying is...
Somebody should claim copyright on Hawaii.

Another way to put it in prespective, 1893 is 33 YEARS BEFORE SLICED BREAD WAS INVENTED!

The Spanish Empire was still an Empire with holdings in the Americas and the Pacific

>It was the year Huey Long was born.

EVERY MAN A KING

It's not though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status

The people who did claim copyright claimed the copyright on the lyrics*, because the notes published in 1893 and shown in the video *are in the public domain. Even worse, the court ruled the song public domain not because it's past it's due date, but because no one could prove the actual owners of the copyright for the lyrics.

When this video released, all works from the year 1923 were coming into the public domain. Nothing from 1893 is still eligible for copyright.

It's not though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status

The people who did claim copyright claimed the copyright on the *lyrics*, because the notes published in 1893 and shown in the video *are* in the public domain. Even worse, the court ruled the song public domain not because it's past it's due date, but because no one could prove the actual owners of the copyright for the lyrics.

When this video released, all works from the year 1923 were coming into the public domain. Nothing from 1893 is still eligible for copyright.

The ottoman empire one really hits the point home.

@Ethan W Monster We deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893 that we had absolutely nothing to do with creating.<br>Just thought that should be in there.

@Ethan W Monster We deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893 that we had absolutely nothing to do with creating.
Just thought that should be in there.

Ottoman Empire technically died at 1923 when Republic was declared so it had three decades not two.

@Ethan W Monster If Criminal law was as fucked up we'd rebel. It's not as predatory because criminal law cannot SURVIVE, being as predatory.

@Intergalactic Human Empire Some things never change.

@Caiden-Lee Goode 1893 predated ww1 ww2 and the scramble for africa.

We deserve to charge you money for singing a song in public that was made in 1893.

imagine if criminal law was just as fucked as copyright law, we'd be fucked. thankfully that isn't the case.

@Tom Hill Yep! Brigham Young, leader of the Mormons against the US, has quite a few statues to himself in Salt Lake City.

@Intergalactic Human Empire ....are you for real? ...so, Utah is a rebel state then? Do they have statues of their generals like the south does for when they rebelled?

@Tom Hill It was a war between the nation of Utah and the United States. Utah was founded as a Mormon nation after the Mormons were kicked out of the USA. The US won the war in 1858, and Utah did not become a state until 1896. From that time, a lot of issues sprang up between Mormons and the Federal Government, especially over polygamy.


The purpose of copyright given in the Constitution is “to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” Originally, the idea of granting monopolies to artists and inventors was seen as something of a necessary evil to be tolerated for a short while in order to promote knowledge, science, art, and discoveries into the public domain quickly. In other words, the expansion of the public domain was the intent of copyright, with temporary artistic monopoly being a tool used to achieve it. Now, public domain has been all but legislated away and preserving/expanding the monopoly is the goal (life + 70 years).<br>It's literally the same 3 corporations licensing out all of humanity's works from the past 100 years to the other 2 corporations, and suing all of humanity daily for uttering anything more than the name of the work, in any context, with any amount of references to the work.

The purpose of copyright given in the Constitution is “to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” Originally, the idea of granting monopolies to artists and inventors was seen as something of a necessary evil to be tolerated for a short while in order to promote knowledge, science, art, and discoveries into the public domain quickly. In other words, the expansion of the public domain was the intent of copyright, with temporary artistic monopoly being a tool used to achieve it. Now, public domain has been all but legislated away and preserving/expanding the monopoly is the goal (life + 70 years).
It's literally the same 3 corporations licensing out all of humanity's works from the past 100 years to the other 2 corporations, and suing all of humanity daily for uttering anything more than the name of the work, in any context, with any amount of references to the work.

Instead of the incumbent copyright law, how about the following:

1. The initial copyright monopoly is 15 years + a 15 year extension if you apply for it.

2. If you decide that something you created should be taken out of the public domain, then you have to go through the same application process to take it out of the public domain as you did for the extension, with a maximum period out of the domain of two years, and you, or a company you are affiliated with must release a product that prominently features the piece of media that was taken out.

3. Once a piece of media is old enough to be in the public domain, it can be taken out only once for a maximum of two years and with no extensions.

4. If someone plans to take something out of the public domain for another release, then the initial creator must inform all online uploaders of the content that they are aware of that they are about to release a new product with the copyrighted material in it within nine months before removing the material (ex: if you upload a rom of a game that is about to be featured in a re-release, then inform those who uploaded the rom that it will be taken down on the release date, as well as when it will be eligible to be re-uploaded without copyright violation).

5. Taking something out of the public domain, and proceeding to do nothing with the copyrighted material taken out in the two years after removal will result in a fine paid directly to anyone whose online content was removed.

Implementing a law like this and executing it properly would progress the public domain to 1992, would allow rightsholders who plan on reusing an old property to remove it from the public domain only once, and for two years (most major works have probably made a lot of their money by then), and would hold them accountable for any misuse of the removal of properties from the public domain.

@Harrison Moore 'infantile' is continuing to argue that something is being argued wrong without actually addressing anything. Part of being an adult is knowing that blind idealism that doesn't consider ultimate consequences is tragic. But sure, I'm the one being disingenuous.

Criticising something isnt the same as advocating for something else. If you cant figure out how critical frameworks work then this discussion is pointless. Your argument is a stupid way of deflecting criticism by saying 'well the alternative is w-worse!'. That's not an argument, thats infantile and disingenuous. Learn how criticism works and then you can argue your points

@Harrison Moore You don't have to say the word 'communism' for it to be obvious what you're advocating for. There is no 'deflecting' going on, you are linking the ideas of private property and 100-year long copywrites as if the former necessitates the latter. If there's no private property, then who's deciding who deserves what? There's a reason that 'redistribution' has has a clear end historically.

You're allowed to criticize whatever you want. It's not like we live in a fascist society. But unconstructive criticism is just that.

@Cosmic Trey i ignored metros comment because I never advocated for communism in my original comment. I was criticising capitalism. Stop trying to deflect criticism onto other economic structures

@Harrison Moore Fascism is equally as compatible with communism, if not more. The fact that you chose to ignore Metro's comment is telling.

@Will Black oh yeah no doubt. Fascism is a very extreme form of capitalism in a number of ways, particularly in this instance

@Harrison Moore Absurdly long copyright law is more fascist than capitalist.

I am shocked at how unsecure our works are.

@Harrison Moore Bro don't make being anti-copyright cringe. The "Capitalism-Communism" dichotomy is outdated and inadequate. Communism requires enforcement in order to stop people from trading or owning things; the enforcers necessarily must be inherently unequal from the enforced. Neoliberal laissez-faire capitalism allows foreign governments and companies to buy up your own country's land, businesses, and lawmakers, and impoverish your people by offering cheaper labor alternatives that stagnate their wages for decades (Hart-Celler Act passes, wages stop rising).

I hate to break it to you but legal constructions like copyright law are just another way that capitalism reinforces itself. The notion of 'private property' and copyright law are intrinsically linked. It was never about promoting knowledge, science and art, instead these regulations were designed to commodify more of human labour. Copyright law isnt just a joke, its a travesty that is sucking the life from humanity

I’ve always hated how it worked a reaction Channel can’t put on The music from the game or the video because it’s copyrighted like W H A T????. That doesn’t make a lick a damn sense

90% of the entire media belong to the same 6 persons. Check it up, you will be scared.

Well, even the name of the work isn’t safe now.


“The law is on the books, but it would take all their resources to enforce it.”

–Calvin and Hobbes, 25/02/1995

“The law is on the books, but it would take all their resources to enforce it.”

_–Calvin and Hobbes,_ 25/02/1995

@John Gardner foreign ni99as when i use 69 degrees instead of 9.6 kilojungers

@PETRIXXX Sorry, I can no longer tell self-aware Americans from the ones who genuinely believe Fahrenheit <i>isn't</i> a completely broken system.

@PETRIXXX Sorry, I can no longer tell self-aware Americans from the ones who genuinely believe Fahrenheit _isn't_ a completely broken system.

@John Gardner Calm down my ni99a, it was a joke. Also, our way of dates is superior because without MM/DD/YYYY, we would never get 4/20.

@PETRIXXX The rest of the world uses DD/MM/YYYY like sensible, logical people should. US date order is fucked up.

And no, MM/DD/YYYY isn't justifiable on the basis that it follows the spoken order of dates ("April 30th, 2022"), because you don't say "The fourth, the thirtieth" in speech, so encoding dates in writing following that order makes no fucking sense.

/rant

@PETRIXXX The rest of the world uses DD/MM/YYYY like sensible, logical people should. US date order is fucked up.

And no, MM/DD/YYYY isn't justifiable on the basis that it follows the spoken order of dates ("April 30th, 2022"), because you don't say "The fourth, the thirtieth" in speech, so encoding dates in writing following that order *makes no fucking sense.*

/rant


This series has been an extremely productive way to get people to understand frustrations of content creators, and the history behind copyright. Nice job man, thanks again.


5:19 The patent system has been completely corrupted as a tool of corporate power as well, hiring a lawyer to file and defend a patent costs indvidual inventors infeasible amounts of money. Patents are also the reason why things such as insulin are so ridiculously expensive, companies can make slight modifications to retain their monopoly over the invention and prevent competition and innovation just like with copyright.

The problem isn’t the patients though, for insulin the issue is that every batch needs to be clinically tried because it’s biological production is less consistent then chemical production (like how aspirin is made).

The thing with insulin, some guy made it with hope and good will in mind, a corporate bought the rights to it and here we are now 100 years later

I was actually discussing patent laws and insulin with a friend before you wrote this comment.

what a funny coincidence.


YouTube in 2020: "The oxygen in this video is copyrighted."

@السراق المجهول Good ideas<br>I’ll just go develop gills, be right back

@السراق المجهول Good ideas
I’ll just go develop gills, be right back

The Problem is it's not youtubes fault
If youtube denies a copyright strike the are the ones to fight it and that will get way to expensive so
It's how the law works

The Problem is it's not youtubes fault
If youtube denies a copyright strike the are the ones to fight it and that will get way to expensive so
*It's how the law works*

I can’t wait for “oxygen smuggling” to become a thing

MoneyBlitz95 <br>Good,you’d be using copyrighted content

MoneyBlitz95
Good,you’d be using copyrighted content


Fun fact! Noisestorm will not use the crab rave in his new game, due to fears that it would get copyrighted in gameplay videos of the game. HIS OWN SONG.

At least the game makers looking out for the creators

Noods and Co he didn’t just help make it his name was on the series. It was AMERICAN McGees Alice: The Madness Returns.

Dude quite literally made the game and had his name on it and still got struck.

How can it be copyrighted by people who don't own it

That reminds me of the time a guy was live streaming his own game and was wrongfully copyright struck for it

Reminds me of how you're not allowed to re-use your own materials that you wrote for other classes in university, ie, you can't re-use your own essay if you somehow had two different classes where you had to write two essays. Self-plagarization is actually a thing. I took an advanced bio course where he had the same questions as another class, so I asked if I could re-use my old materials and he was fine with it, but you actually have to ask for permission

@VyProductions Yes, artists like me who are unsigned(10 years and rolling, I'm not crying, <i>you're</i> crying!). But we're talking about Crab Rave, a song licensed to a label. Noisestorm needs Monstercat's permission if he'd want to use it in his game. That's why he's using unlicensed music he made specifically for the game instead as to avoid having to ask for permission for his own music. So let me say again: Crab Rave is not 100% owned by Noisestorm, it's partially licensed to Monstercat, therefore he needs permission from Monstercat in order to use it for anything.

@VyProductions Yes, artists like me who are unsigned(10 years and rolling, I'm not crying, _you're_ crying!). But we're talking about Crab Rave, a song licensed to a label. Noisestorm needs Monstercat's permission if he'd want to use it in his game. That's why he's using unlicensed music he made specifically for the game instead as to avoid having to ask for permission for his own music. So let me say again: Crab Rave is not 100% owned by Noisestorm, it's partially licensed to Monstercat, therefore he needs permission from Monstercat in order to use it for anything.

@Hangman Official Obviously I am no artist, but there must be artists who own 100% of the music they create.

@Hangman Official This is only true for those that release their songs through a label.

@VyProductions Except that's not how it works. The label you release the songs on technically owns part of the license that's on your songs. You need your own permission and that of the label you're currently contracted to in order to do this. If you have a flexible contract, so you only license tracks released to them, it's different, but in the case of Crab Rave(released on the Monstercat label), Noisestorm has to technically contact Monstercat and ask them for permission then file his own permission and <i>then</i> he's allowed to use it in his game and make the permissions screen allowing others to stream it via the game.

@VyProductions Except that's not how it works. The label you release the songs on technically owns part of the license that's on your songs. You need your own permission and that of the label you're currently contracted to in order to do this. If you have a flexible contract, so you only license tracks released to them, it's different, but in the case of Crab Rave(released on the Monstercat label), Noisestorm has to technically contact Monstercat and ask them for permission then file his own permission and _then_ he's allowed to use it in his game and make the permissions screen allowing others to stream it via the game.

If I was a game designer using my own music in my own game, I would just put a screen in the game giving permission for use in creators' gameplay videos.

@Choo Hey, remember when TheFatRat got copyright struck for using his own song on the same platform? Yes, it's entirely true, plausible and has happened.

@DatOneCommie IronGEAR I do remember like Monstercat disabling content id for Crab Rave but I am not too sure

@TastyHam Monstercat Gold. $5/mo. It is some kind of the radio-like licensing that AmpLemon talked in the vid. You pay 5 dollars per month and you can use nearly all of the songs released on Monstercat in your streams/vids without copyright claims. (Some of the songs can't be used becuz of complex licensing, but standard releases like Crab Rave can be used without much worry) I personally would recommend it if you like electronic music and create content for YouTube or stream on Twitch/Mixer.

@MOOB Breezy it's on the discord server for crab champions, the game hes making.

@How To Defeat ISIS 101 this is such a troll

@eastsport pick up a Monstercat creator licence. That is what content creators do to use their songs freely. In fact with this you could use some of marshmallows earlier songs.

Remember when TheFatRat got copyright claimed for a song be uploaded?

It's because all songs released on Monstercat are automatically added to YT song match system

The music label Monstercat does claim videos but doesn’t strike them, there’s an entire community on using their music but they sometimes claim it, they don’t block videos but claim the revenue. There’s more info about copyright on their website.

It happens. My boy Vinny was talking about his band Red Vox getting a claim on one of his own vids. Its because its all automated.

and isin't crab rave also free to use for everyone, at least for stuff like youtube vids?

@How To Defeat ISIS 101 no it was partly owned by someone else

@Cyan Giorgio Don't worry, the laws protect the artists

@Choo trust me it's true. I remember when the news came out about it

To be fair American McGee got copystruck for doing a Let's Play of Alice: Madness Returns. You know, a game he helped make.

@JOD I have a feeling this isnt true...<br>But knowing youtube, this can become a reality

@JOD I have a feeling this isnt true...
But knowing youtube, this can become a reality

hi lettuce. we like fortnite! we like fortniteee!

Fear being punished for using your own artistic work? Cringe!


Pornhub is more kind to its creators than YouTube can ever be

I’m not sure why there are people complaining about what kind of things get posted to PH and what Creators get verified/single boosted. YT has identical issues lol, like for years…

This comment aged like a milk. TBH, glamoring Pornhub for "being better" was always stupid. It was matter of time before things change.

@kittykittybangbang they made a purge on unverified content

I don’t think youtube literally rapes its employees

Gotta love how Pornhub was an incredibly useful and underrated platform, and now it's all screwed up because the Legacy media decided it would be fun to do a hitpiece on it and feed into the Twitter crowd. God it's like nothing can ever be wild west forever... it's like nothing can ever be fun so long as there are people out there who actively wish to tear it down.

@BurntBacon well its kind of hard to verify ages on videos. Anyone could just walk in and say "lol I got raped take this video down" but I dunno.

hot babe :
 in front of me on screen naked

Me: how is she playing copywritten music? where can I learn this power?

@Apogee Kaiten Sadly yes. While sure sour milk is safe to drink... Would you really want to?

I say we should take youtube, and push it to pornhub!

Make a yt that has no limits try to keep porn to minimum and nudity is allowed so play any game and copyright has nothing on anyone and curse as much as u want or talk about hentai or gore and anything see where I’m going at

Holy damn, you're right. In theory, you could use almost any scene from a porn movie in your videos as long as it doesn't show nudity or anything like that.

@Phoenix so just a better yt but without toxic kids?

Unfortunately, it’s so kind that it’ll let people keep up videos of 15-year-old girls who were originally passed off as adults.

well, ive acidentally seen porn on youtube...

@D Zuke yea me too, I don't understand the argument, if pornhub be youtube they will implement youtube system so they don't go bankrupt because all of the corporation sue them

they keep finding reasons to make premium free

I am connor The android sent by cyderlife

Pornhub could totally make a youtube rival. They have the money and are well known.

@Carolingian  ya I'm going to need some proof for that, That kinda thing is not something I can take on face value

@Carolingian<br>i'm gonna need a link on that

@Carolingian
i'm gonna need a link on that

Pornhub is so incredibly kind to it's creators that when a man posted videos of himself having sex with an underaged girl he abducted for 18 months, they didn't even kick him off the site. In fact, they actively paid him for it.

Sex trafficers are better people than big Corpos. Nothing new

@Phoenix Porn hub should move into You-tubes territory if it's so great...I wonder why it hasn't.

1un4cy <br>Pornhub is basically YouTube with porn

1un4cy
Pornhub is basically YouTube with porn

Pornhub should just make its own version of Youtube


A suggestion for part 4: In Germany it even went so far that for many years pretty much ALL music videos and videos containing copyrighted music were ENTIRELY BLOCKED because the local collecting society, the GEMA (who is also a big topic on its own because of their general infamous practices in Germany), just wanted to milk the shit out of Youtube similar to Viacom back then. According to a study it went up to a whooping 61.5% of the 1000 most viewed videos (yeeees, 615 of 1000 videos) were ENTIRELY GEOBLOCKED in Germany due to Copyright bullshit. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany

Holy shit how did I not remember that.
I have only faint memories of GEMA blocks on some videos.

Well never stopped hating those assholes though


Even as someone who owns a label, releases his own music and owns all that shit, my childhood attachment to things like YTPoop and other early YT content has also made me similarly radical.

Literally why I took the initiative to do it myself rather than grind until some major sees me. At least this way if someone uses me as an outro or one of my beats as background, they all good and if something did go wrong, it'd be up to me to handle it not some faceless suits.

P.S. i do love to hear you complain but I subbed cause your earnhardt video made a room full of grown men cry, none of which like racing.


The companies are greedy for money, I mean they already make TONS of money from what thing they sell.

Still the happy birthday song being copyright claimed is next level insanity

You are the companies, John.
Seriously. These are publicly traded corporations. If their stock price goes up, that pleases their shareholders. Regular arse people like you.
So they will do anything to make them stonks grow.
Jt just so happens, that tbe best way to ensure profitable business is to establish a totalitarian oligarchy.m


You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.

Wait, I’m doing that. That’s incredibly smart…

Except can multiple companies make claims on one video too?


Remember that scene in the Simpsons when Grandpa used a potato gag to impress Marge's mum but was instantly forced by a lawyer to stop or else he'd get a lawsuit.

That's all i need to say.

@Mr. Moron the simpsons didn't predict anything, copyright has just been stagnant that long. Simpsons wasn't predicting the future, it was making fun of the past

Disney not only OWNS that joke now, but ALSO is making it REALITY! the Simpsons truly predicts everything


It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it

At least when you're writing fiction, there's a lot more freedom to come up with new, original ideas (as in there's generic fictional genres that you can use as starting templates to build your own worlds and shit). Like, I've been doing creative writing related stuff in my free time for about 10 or so years now, so creating worlds from scratch on pen and paper isn't super hard for me.

But yeah, YouTube definitely gets the short end of the stick as far as copyright abuse goes along with just the music industry in general. Both of those are incredibly fucked, and you even have entire genres built around sampling stuff in both scenes (ie: YTP and vaporwave). Imagine if magazine companies copyrighted each issue of a magazine they made in order to hound people who make collages out of them (because, y'know, collages take magazines and transform them into art). That's basically what the movie and music industry does to both YTPs and vaporwave. Although, in the case of vaporwave, the scene is underground enough that they aren't really dealing with any legal battles yet. I do think that once that happens and they win out in court, we'll start to see some actual change in the battle against greedy copyright laws.


That’s How the Law Works! That never gets old. I really hope our Copyright system improves.


Well gamers. Time to try singing the ABCs without being copyrighted claimed

Failed the challenge. I got sued by the English language and lost all my money. Gonna start a new game and try again…

@saddened man face from ROBLOX  we are trying to make a buck because we don't have enough to spare

trying to play 300 year old songs without multi-billion dollar companies suing you

<b>*sings Twinkle Twinkle Little Star instead*</b>

**sings Twinkle Twinkle Little Star instead**

You absolute mad lad! Each letter is going to cost you 15 bucks!

*_hippity hopity that song is my property_*


Lawful evil people rule the world we need more chaotic good to balance it.

and less old idiots making laws.

Aren't senators more important than the president in law creation? I mean, the president don't has as much power as people usually think that he has.

@You Squidding Me? the president has to aprove the laws. If you get a good president those laws will be harder to pass

Honestly we need politicians like new zealand's prime minister

would you rather have the corps make them? trust me, if those old farts die, the power is going to the CORPS, using their power. NOT the people. we have to elect a good president soon, or we will live in a dystopia (which is implying we are not already living in one, which i think we do)


You know what they say the smartest thing you can do in youtube?
"They can't copyright strike me if I copyright strike myself"

You know what they say the smartest thing you can do in youtube?
*_"They can't copyright strike me if I copyright strike myself"_*

Idea: copyright yourself several times over under different names and get a reasonable amount of revenue

@Punocchio no body gets money. you make no money off of the video, but at least no corporation will be able to make money off the video as well. Usefull for when you <b>know</b> a video is gonna be claimed

@Punocchio no body gets money. you make no money off of the video, but at least no corporation will be able to make money off the video as well. Usefull for when you *know* a video is gonna be claimed

@Video Games are Cool What happens in the case of a copyright deadlock?

theres a method called the "copyright deadlock" in which you get your video claimed by 2 or more companies so now none of them can claim the video. Its actually possible to get a deadlock with just one company but 2 of its divisions, for example having both nintendo of america and nintendo of japan claim your video

There are actually people who did it. Record a song, make sure to be the owner of that song (legally and for youtube), and play it as the outro or intro in every video, just to then copystrike yourself and get at least half of the revenue yourself.

@Merfolk Surprise companies still can copyright claim you, but you will split the revenue with the company

Could you prevent other people from claiming you by using alt accounts to claim your work? Does that do anything?


Oh boy I cant wait to listen to songs from 1890's in the 2020's! I'm so excited to see what enters the Public Domain this decade!

<b>Hurrian Hymn No. 6 finally enters public domain after 3 4 0 0 years</b>

*Hurrian Hymn No. 6 finally enters public domain after 3 4 0 0 years*


Big props to people who immediately make their works public domain.<br>You're keeping this sinking ship afloat.

Big props to people who immediately make their works public domain.
You're keeping this sinking ship afloat.


You and Internet Historian are the two people I will follow to the ends of the internet if and when YouTube crashes and burns.<br>Edit: scratch the “if” part.

You and Internet Historian are the two people I will follow to the ends of the internet if and when YouTube crashes and burns.
Edit: scratch the “if” part.

I see them as an important public service for the future generations.

"Grampa, tell us the story about how the internet was back in the old days."

@noclip442 Hard to tell, buddy, hard to tell

@noclip442 How can I be wrong?  Want me to link the video?  Also Metokur is criminally underappreciated for bringing laughs and knowledge to Youtube.

"Scratch the if part"<br>THEN EDIT IT OUT!

I'm sure Both of Them are on bitchute or should be.<br>The like 5 or 6 creators I feel the same way about are all there already.

I'm sure Both of Them are on bitchute or should be.
The like 5 or 6 creators I feel the same way about are all there already.

agree 100%

but i also own shares of Disney so I'm kind of a hypocrite....

hi space. we like fortnite. we like fortnite.


Imagine singing Happy Birthday To You without getting sued

This comment was made by Big Corporations gang


12:30 gotta love when people say you make "uneducated points" and fail to point out what they are


Media: I claimed this video because I hold 0.0000000000% of this videos content, but I want 100% of the revenue.

It has no copyrighted music yet I will claim all of the revenue

And that money I get is literally a penny compared to what i have!


I just love the chaotic energy flowing through everything you post on this website. I absolutely adore your editing-style and 'Lemon'-persona - it's so unique, raw and intimately real at times. Your political comments may not be the most theoretically funded, but I always come to respect them because they're well thought out and grounded in your experiences.

And the whole meta-commentary thing that you do these days just resonates so well with me. It fits so well into and captures that lifestyle-feeling some of us have today (whatever generation it is, though I think I'm roughly the same age as you) -the Spongebob-"Never Ever"-thing for example.

As a decade-long YTP-lurker (from Germany, remember Axel Voss and Art. 13?^^) and fan of transformative art in a lot of media (and as someone who is aware of how internet communication works) I share your concerns over copyright made to favor big companies and the way this is dealt with today.

So yeah, great three part-epic, and you just keep on doing what you do. Ehrenmann, as you would say in German.

Interesting. Into tf art? I used to be the same.


This site is just garbage. So many constraints on creators, you can’t even make fun of people for doing dumb things anymore

You speak for Billions of account that #YouTubeSucks. I agree with 1100 percent.

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@doc okkk Reddit is normie central and becoming corporate as fuck, so no.

@doc okkkI'd prefer if it were more like 4chan, then YouTube could be free and cool and doesn't afraid of anything.

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@Zorro9129 Not true: Everything, Reddit included, agrees that Reddit is terrible.

Everything non-Reddit can universally agree Reddit is terrible.  Also, there's a Reddit alternative called Minds.

@doc okkk as much as I love Reddit as a concept it's just as flawed if not more so. Tyrannical mods, an even stronger echo chamber effect on many of it's users, the looming chinese overlords censoring the entire platform, Reddit is a step in the right direction but at its core it's not something we can hold onto if we want real creative liberty. It too will need to be replaced with something better.

It is important to still have hope for the company, as we have indeed seen steps to fix the copyright claims in recent times. To me this means that they DO at least care a little about the problem and are likely to continue to try and fix it. I've noticed a trend in many companies beginning to respect content creators a lot more and listen to them instead of being rooted in the money. Sure, it still isn't too great now, but it is a whole lot better than it was a year ago. Id rather have hope for a website everyone uses [and still is a pretty good way to post content] then just complaining and wanting it to burn or get replaced when its pretty clear that just is not going to happen. Continue speaking out and you may actually be heard.

@Stevee Johnson "If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy." - wait, I'm not sure you're on the same wavelength.
Youtube has deleted or forced people to private half the shit on my favorites and watch later playlists. Youtube classics are in danger of getting nuked under the new terms of service. There's videos that even though are not unlisted, are nearly impossible to find unless someone links you to them because they're buried in the search results.
How are people stupid or lazy for losing access to content that was previously available?

Did you just criticize the platform? Due to new policies we're going to terminate your account as well as fine you $500 per inappropriate comment.

Susan Wojcicki made Youtube garbage. She is responsible of this, and should be fired #YoutubeGate #FireSusanWojcicki #SaveYouTube #MakeYoutubeGreatAgain

Maciej Królikowski how about don’t make it like Reddit or 4chan and just make YouTube how it was years ago. Freedom to joke how you want without blatantly harassing and witch hunting others?

@Titanium Rain I do in fact have a say in the matter of what I watch. I don't care what content youtube is encouraging, I will find good content. If you can't, you're either stupid or lazy. In your case probably both.

@Titanium Rain i think what he's saying is that you should make the most of it, while failing to realize that most people are too stupid to do so. sure, we can, but the grand audience cant or doesnt care enough to (which is perfectly reasonable because taste is subjective), which is why emp advocates for a new system to push actual good shit instead of the watchmojos of the world

@Stevee Johnson Your point is incomprehensible. You go from "if you're affected by the changes your taste is trash" to "I didn't say it was perfect". You're not making it work. You literally have no hand in the matter.

@doc okkk lol, you think reddit isn't a censored hell hole. the entirety of the internet is owned by the corporate masters, welcome to the new normal, enjoy.

@Titanium Rain I didn't say it was perfect, I said I know how to make it work for me

YouTube is the worst video-sharing platform, except for all the others.

@Stevee Johnson lmao yeah keep denying that this website has been on a constant decline for years

You can just say hate speech by saying that they are jealous or anything.

2020 sure is gonna be a interesting year that's for sure

2020 sure is gonna be a interesting year that's for sure

Maciej Królikowski basically back to the forum boards we go?

@Peter Carioscia Leafy is white and straight.

@Peter Carioscia Leafy is white and straight.

@doc okkk
>Like Reddit
You mean where everyone acts like they're better than anyone else and think they're smarter than everyone only to hAve their pants pulled down by 4chan on a drunken whim
Yeah no

Psychicpebbles video on the fine bros was also removed

Psychicpebbles video on the fine bros was also removed

I disagree. You just have bad taste. All my subscriptions are great, because I don't watch trash. You can argue that the normies watch the trash that does exist, but that's what they've always been doing, since the dawn of man. Finding good content has never been easy, now the bad stuff is just boring-bad instead of wtf-bad.

@Moss Hive Network videos have already been deleted.

@Moss Hive Network videos have already been deleted.

@Fernando Ed nobody can afford to host and stream terabytes of data every day. Google loses money on YT for the sake of stock market value.

copyright just like most "modern" laws are abstract and empty. They're not based in honor and honesty or protecting the people but the impersonal corporations.

Much like COPPA, this is far bigger than just a YouTube problem.

sup sum. we like fortnite. we like fortnite

sup sum. we like fortnite. we like fortnite

Maciej Królikowski dude reddit is already horrible it’s just a huge circlejerk and echo chamber I want the website to have REAL creative freedom

Unless you're mocking a straight white Christian male. Fire away, without fear of reprisal from our YT overlords.

DESOTRON you do Know the shit show Reddit is.

DESOTRON you do Know the shit show Reddit is.

@Who Cares whai do you grentext on de youtu

@Who Cares whai do you grentext on de youtu

Only Jimmy Kimmel can make fun of people for doing dumb things.

But he's too busy talking about the president

Who Cares no no man don’t shut him down this actually sounds like a really good idea

Let's make yt but like reddit. Anything can be put there but u have the light side like yt and dark side the NSFW sides


I enjoy this, the fact that my favorite ytp channel became this, an absolute transformation from something good to something better


Thank you for this video series, I feel like you're the only and first guy around that made all the right points about this issue.
As someone who always wanted to become a Youtuber but became more and more reluctant each time I tried to start,
because I already encountered copyright problems on the first video I uploaded, you gave me some kind of hope.

Only to crush it later on again, because you shed light on all the shitty systems that are in place. Ironic, isn't it?

Anyway, well put together video as always.
May the Downward Spiral guide you.


4:34 When the Knife Game was super popular, I never would have guessed that Rusty Cage was the guy who wrote it.


One of the only youtubers that entices me to watch the entire video without really getting bored.


Imagine humming the melody to Billy Joel's piano man in a bar, and an undercover policeman comes up to you and says "Stop! You violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence, your stolen music is now forfeit"

@Matt Petty seems like you need to calm down there bud..

the internet historian is a copyright criminal i don’t fuck with that

@CraX lol calm down man. Its obvious thats what he was quoting. Its called a meme not stealing. Looks like someone is missing the point of the video

@CraX Stop! you have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?

Deer War Veteran I can never remember which one is which lmao, I just take the boomer approach and call em all skyrim and likely piss off the entire internet while doing so

Deer War Veteran it’s still stealing technically

You can then call them a thief for stealing a quote from skyrim

I used to be billy joel until i took an arrow to the knee


"There will come a time when copyright law is made to benefit the artists."

No, EmpLemon. There won't. Disney has already won. They held this ground long enough that zoomers are growing up with it. They never did pirate, at least not in any way they were aware of, because they've always had legal ways to consume at a reasonable price, and little access to places and tools with which to repurpose that media, since it was illegal to do so anyway. When the Boomers finally die, the country will belong to people who think this is normal and correct.

Youtube itself is becoming exactly what it always wanted to be: the media conglomerate outlet, a replacement for cable TV. People who created things, who created Youtube itself, will be choked off of the platform, and nothing will meaningfully replace it because of how big it is. Real art will probably be strictly local within a decade, because the plebeians can't be allowed broader reach than that. By then, nobody will even remember that Youtube HAD real creators on it.

Good luck and goodnight, king.

"There will come a time when copyright law is made to benefit the artists."

No, EmpLemon. There won't. Disney has already won. They held this ground long enough that zoomers are growing up with it. They never *did* pirate, at least not in any way they were aware of, because they've always had legal ways to consume at a reasonable price, and little access to places and tools with which to repurpose that media, since it was illegal to do so anyway. When the Boomers finally die, the country will belong to people who think this is normal and correct.

Youtube itself is becoming exactly what it always wanted to be: the media conglomerate outlet, a replacement for cable TV. People who created things, who created Youtube itself, will be choked off of the platform, and nothing will meaningfully replace it because of how big it is. Real art will probably be strictly local within a decade, because the plebeians can't be allowed broader reach than that. By then, nobody will even remember that Youtube HAD real creators on it.

Good luck and goodnight, king.

I agree with everything here except boomers being the cause. Of course boomers where the worst in this aspect but rather it’s the corporate cronyism of the establishment that abuse copyright.

@007bistromath It simply doesnt though.
It matters not one bit what it is you are trying to supress, the mere fact of you doing it will only proliferate it faster.
Certainly social manipulation has grown nuanced in this age of information, but you can keep these things in check only for so long, before some unexprcted constellation of factors and an inciting incident lead to an exponential collapse of the carefully constructed system. Not once in history has it been different, and I see no reason why it would be now.

@I need no channel youtube! that depends entirely on how many people you expect it to work for

@I need no channel youtube! that depends entirely on how many people you expect it to work for

Excessive centralised control never works, not even whrn you have generations growing up in it.

Excessive centralised control never works, not even whrn you have generations growing up in it.

If the same thing happens then just keep starting anew till it doesn't lol

If the same thing happens then just keep starting anew till it doesn't lol

Ahem, 007bistromath, I have come to make an announcement.

I am a zoomer and have shown this to every other zoomer I know. There's also hope.

Ahem, 007bistromath, I have come to make an announcement.

I am a zoomer and have shown this to every other zoomer I know. There's also hope.

@Martyr_Lightsilver the whole point is that those independent, small shops were running themselves out of business so they could earn more money. if they became big enough they could afford a new location, running the shops there out of business as you have more money to spend on your new location. that allowed them to make money. this kept happening. the other shops ran out of buissness, so in turn there is less competition! unless somthing drastic happens this'll keep happening.

@Pritam Sarkar quick question... you just went amd vs intel... are there any other chip producers that are THAT huge? let alone being known by the public that well? not picking a side here, but pick a few better examples.

also, you went "Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war."  is Russia still doing a lot of space related stuff? and is the budget of NASA as high as during that race? or amount of public fanfare about the innovations of NASA?         let me answer that, no. for every dollar of of tax you give the government NASA gets HALF a PENNY, while before they were throwing ALL their money at NASA to make them look good. and i bet you probably didn't know there's a satellite floating around checking moisture around the planet to figure out if the crops are gonna grow well or not, or that that tech is given to poor country's to feed themselves better.  the ONLY real competition NASA really has is the Tesla space program, which is well funded and can do their jobs, and even then there is to little work done!

simply put, competition will eventually die out. unless someone does something to spark tons of attention.

and also, i forgot to mention somthin. do me a favor and next time you start shopping for food, look around and search for independent shops selling somthing, and look at how many customers there are. then look for a big name brand shop like target or your country's version of it (mines the "plus" or "albert hein") chances are you cant really find a independent shop, and even the one thats around is pretty small and doesnt have a lot of people in it.  now look for a photo of wherever you shopped.... lets saayyy.... 15 or 20 years ago. and take a good look. you might have notised that there are TONS of those independent shops working their ass off to stick out from the crowd.

@Fco Omega The problem is that there truly is no solution. The balance between the economic spectrum is impossible to achieve because we as a society are simply that complex in our beliefs and behaviours. If everyone operates perfectly under a perfect system, it will work in either case. Such is the concept of utopia, be it of any ideology.

However, reality is chaotic and chaos is a fundamental aspect of it. Chaos is a very nessicary evil to prevent the achievement of mechanized utopia at the hands of artificial processes. We are human and will always conflict over systems that are flawed, in that they are only treated as such due to the deviant human thought that makes us all so unique.

Humanity, as of the current period, has taken the path of capitalism due to it fulfilling the many individualist factors we wish to satiate. It benefits our diverse nature and gives us a means of freedom. However, it is not perfect due to our biological differences in mental function and opinion.

This is a truth that many people, for some reason, be it because of it's dark implications, cannot accept or see. You can "improve it" in the way we as society see it to further us along the road of the mechanized singularity, or you can reveal and tear it down in the name of chaos, freedom and humanity. Thus, a different system will take the norm and we will once again strive to perfect it until we reach singularity or collapse. This is why history is a cycle and why we see the rise and fall of empires.

Call me crazy, call me stupid, call me pessimistic. I do not care. However, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that every aspect of our beings follows this path on a fundamental level.

Tl;dr Be happy with what you have, and even try to improve it, but know that there are limits to how much something can be improved.

@Tzer 'Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.'<br>Who will then courrpted by power! Power Courrpts! Absolute power courrupts everyone!

@Tzer 'Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.'
Who will then courrpted by power! Power Courrpts! Absolute power courrupts everyone!

Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.

Unless we get more people into the system raise our own law makers.

@Fco Omega 'we are using your definition of capitalism, "privatizations of means of productions'<br>Nope, Humans always liked to own private goods from the time of the stone age.(In this context private meant families, not individuals) WTF?? Are you even human??

@Fco Omega 'we are using your definition of capitalism, "privatizations of means of productions'
Nope, Humans always liked to own private goods from the time of the stone age.(In this context private meant families, not individuals) WTF?? Are you even human??

@Fco Omega 'AND AGAIN, you are not giving any kind of options or solutions to the problems, suscription models dont work,'<br>Not me,  I as quoting EmpLemon, did you even watch the video properly?

@Fco Omega 'AND AGAIN, you are not giving any kind of options or solutions to the problems, suscription models dont work,'
Not me,  I as quoting EmpLemon, did you even watch the video properly?

@Fco Omega ', i mean, you are ignoring how disney, google, amazon and facebook are buying all the companies they can so no one can make any kind of real competition in their respective markets.'<br>In North America and Europe? Yes? What about Baidu, Naver, LineApps? Also, companies like DuckDuckGo are providing competitive services at a profit while protecting privacy.  Alternatively media companies are growing(Like Gab, Minds, etc)

@Fco Omega ', i mean, you are ignoring how disney, google, amazon and facebook are buying all the companies they can so no one can make any kind of real competition in their respective markets.'
In North America and Europe? Yes? What about Baidu, Naver, LineApps? Also, companies like DuckDuckGo are providing competitive services at a profit while protecting privacy.  Alternatively media companies are growing(Like Gab, Minds, etc)

@Fco Omega 'witch it always ends with companies fighting for who own the more stuff, creating a monopoly.
'<br>Really? Seen the market lately? AMD vs Intel?? Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war.

@Fco Omega 'witch it always ends with companies fighting for who own the more stuff, creating a monopoly.
'
Really? Seen the market lately? AMD vs Intel?? Companies fighting leads to innovations. Competition breeds success. Look at Space Race during cold war.

@Fco Omega I am more interested in Skin in the game and hidden asymmetries in life and games(Game Theory). Learn Chaos Theory and Game theory.....You will understand what plagues systems inefficiencies and asymmetries and possible ways to remediate said problems. ('Capitalism', Communism, Fascism, etc....)

@Fco Omega 'also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright'<br>He also called it antiquated. He says a subscription model(Yearly Basis) or Content actual time basis would solve such issues. Maybe companies that will implement EmpLemon's idea first will have more customers, hence more profit, forcing others to do the same. Hail Profits!

@Fco Omega 'also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright'
He also called it antiquated. He says a subscription model(Yearly Basis) or Content actual time basis would solve such issues. Maybe companies that will implement EmpLemon's idea first will have more customers, hence more profit, forcing others to do the same. Hail Profits!

@Fco Omega 'they are just operating with only making profits in mind,'<br>So, if an industry is profitable, you expect more players coming for that profit, increasing supply, decreasing prices. Markets move towards equilibrium. However, if it is imposed monopoly/oligarchy/State Restrictions, Free market system cannot do this!

@Fco Omega 'they are just operating with only making profits in mind,'
So, if an industry is profitable, you expect more players coming for that profit, increasing supply, decreasing prices. Markets move towards equilibrium. However, if it is imposed monopoly/oligarchy/State Restrictions, Free market system cannot do this!

@Fco Omega 'it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addressing the issues of capitalism,'<br>Define capitalism first! What do you mean? Free Market System? Or are you against the idea of having the means of production in the hands of private individuals??  Stop trying to copy-paste bullshit Labels, which you don't seem to understand in the first place.

@Fco Omega 'it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addressing the issues of capitalism,'
Define capitalism first! What do you mean? Free Market System? Or are you against the idea of having the means of production in the hands of private individuals??  Stop trying to copy-paste bullshit Labels, which you don't seem to understand in the first place.

@Pritam Sarkar it doesnt matter if you "include" fascism, dictatorships, etc. you are nor addresing the issues of capitalism, you are escencially moving the conversation to other topic so we dont talk about why capitalism fails.

just because those companies are "public" doesnt mean anything, they are just operating with only making profits in mind, putting things like work condition, quality of services/products, healthy competition, etc. completly aside.

also, seriously? antitrust laws? this hole emplemon's video is about how corporations corrupted copyright (witch it supposed to be an antitrust law) so it only benefit big companies, and you believe that doesnt happen with other antitrust laws? all antitrust laws are corrupted in any way posible, just look at the case of "epic store vs steam" or  how amazon become the bigger digital store by just buying their competition. you are just trying to defend the status quo with no real arguments at all, i mean, you arent even giving any solutions to the copyright problem.

@Fco Omega 'means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc.'<br>And many of those companies are public companies, whose shares are traded in the open market. First, try to understand what Public vs Private means? Anti-Trust Laws exist in the USA for this very reason.

@Fco Omega 'means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc.'
And many of those companies are public companies, whose shares are traded in the open market. First, try to understand what Public vs Private means? Anti-Trust Laws exist in the USA for this very reason.

@Fco Omega 'also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad"'<br>Top-Down systems? Too much centralization? The Problem of economic knowledge?  Are you even reading my comments? This critique of communism also holds for Fascism(Which is sort of economic off-brand communism), Dictatorships and Political religions like Islam and Catholics.

@Fco Omega 'also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad"'
Top-Down systems? Too much centralization? The Problem of economic knowledge?  Are you even reading my comments? This critique of communism also holds for Fascism(Which is sort of economic off-brand communism), Dictatorships and Political religions like Islam and Catholics.

@Fco Omega '. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"'<br>Again, I have already explained my why thinking in labels is dangerous, short-sighted and ignorant. Try think from fundamental and principal laws from the next time.

@Fco Omega '. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"'
Again, I have already explained my why thinking in labels is dangerous, short-sighted and ignorant. Try think from fundamental and principal laws from the next time.

@Pritam Sarkar means that companies are buying the properties of lands, ips, patents, etc. so they can make money for just owning stuff instead of making their products and services better.

this is why, for example, disney buy marvel, fox, lucas films, etc. because they can make an oligopoly for just owning star wars, avengers, the simpsons, etc. and if anyone wants to put it them in (just for example) an stream service, they have to do it with the permition of disney.  what is so hard to undertand?

also, you keep talking about how "cumunism bad" but you arent making any solutions to capitalism's problems, like dude, not everyone that hate capitalism is a communist or even a socialist, for example i am social democrat. just because "communism bad" means "nothing is wrong with capitalism"

@Kriplovski Communism in its truest form aims to create a classless-stateless society. It is a utopia, the ultimate form of human civilization. And according to their hypothesis, Socialism is the path to achieve it. Socialism is not true communism, but a path to end goal. Unfortunately, socialism forces to have a top-down centralized system for resource and power allocation. Question is who decides and how they decide, who are have's and who are have not's?

@Moth Wan It is all about scale. One can be socialist in family-scale, a democrat on state scale, and a republican of national scale. Scaling rules depend on dimensions and size. Do you think microscopic world and macroscopic world are the same?

@Fco Omega 'those companies are still privatizing almost anything they'<br>'Privatizing'? What does that even mean? Elaborate your context.

@Fco Omega 'those companies are still privatizing almost anything they'
'Privatizing'? What does that even mean? Elaborate your context.

@LordVader1094 'instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"'<br>Nobody is pretending anything. You are not educated enough to understand financial systems and instead depend on labels and superficial attributes. Again, Western economies are mixed economies, neither purely market or command economy. Capitalism is just ownership of means of production by private citizens.

@LordVader1094 'instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"'
Nobody is pretending anything. You are not educated enough to understand financial systems and instead depend on labels and superficial attributes. Again, Western economies are mixed economies, neither purely market or command economy. Capitalism is just ownership of means of production by private citizens.

@LordVader1094 'Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. '<br>It is also something that isn't outside of communism. Look at North Korea. Capitalism is just owning the means of production by private hands. No country is purely capitalistic. As is the US. Mixed Economy, instead of the pure Market economy, or pure command economy is followed in most western countries.

@LordVader1094 'Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. '
It is also something that isn't outside of communism. Look at North Korea. Capitalism is just owning the means of production by private hands. No country is purely capitalistic. As is the US. Mixed Economy, instead of the pure Market economy, or pure command economy is followed in most western countries.

@Pritam Sarkar There isn't a difference. Oligarchy and cronyism isn't somehow outside of capitalism. We should criticize its negative elements, instead of pretending the negative parts aren't there akin to "buT tHaT wAsn'T reAl ComMuniSm!1!!"

@Kriplovski I haven't heard them say anything about building something eternal. They mostly just say Fuck the DNC. Which is a sentiment I can get behind. Hey, where are you making shit up?

@Tom Hill the monarchy didn't fall because it was weak, it fell because, for a multitude of contextual reasons, its time had come for the period that it was active in, as is the case with every single governing body in existence. the thing that made the monarchy so special was how long it lasted, which can be attributed to multiple factors, of course, though my favourite is the fact that in a monarchy, as in a theocracy, the only thing that is ever seen as truly eternal is the heavens, and the works of men are regarded as entities which come and go with the passing of the ages, governing bodies included.

the takeaway here is that communists like to claim that the state they seek to build is eternal, which if you take the fact that nothing man creates is eternal into consideration, proves itself to be an outright lie, to that end, why would you or anyone else ever trust what a communist has to say about how their society will function?

Let Disney and the megacorporations rest on their laurels.

That's when they'll be at their weakest and most vulnerable.

Let Disney and the megacorporations rest on their laurels.

That's when they'll be at their weakest and most vulnerable.

Glowstick Foxcat's Gaming Channel haha funny random man

Glowstick Foxcat's Gaming Channel haha funny random man

@Moth Wan People liking free stuff is idealistic? Seems more mercenary to me.

@Moth Wan People liking free stuff is idealistic? Seems more mercenary to me.

@Pritam Sarkar [Laughs in Individualist Anarchism]

@Pritam Sarkar [Laughs in Individualist Anarchism]

@Maverick56 We should've donated more tanks to Bob's army.

@Maverick56 We should've donated more tanks to Bob's army.

I think we need a content revolution. They cant copystrike all of YouTube.

I think we need a content revolution. They cant copystrike all of YouTube.

@Pritam Sarkar even if your definition is true, those companies are still privatizing almost anything they can so its more dificult to make any kind of new competition, why do you think disney is buying every studio in every oportunity it has? why do you think facebook brought instagram instead of developing facebook to make healthy competition?

@Fco Omega They are not private companies, they are PUBLIC companies whose shares are held by stockholders.... That is why when companies sell shares for the first time, it is called IPO(Initial  Public Offering). Google, Amazon, Tesla are all public corporations. Private companies don't trade shares in public stocks, for instance SpaceX. I have a minor in entrepreneurship and finance. Don't BS with me.

@Pritam Sarkar that is exactly the problem, private companies are owning all the means of production so they can make an oligopoly (if not a monopoly) by making copyright practicly last for ever.

@Tom Hill Such idealistic tendencies, with the current state of the world I don't see it happening. But you're welcome to keep your idealism.

@Tom Hill Such idealistic tendencies, with the current state of the world I don't see it happening. But you're welcome to keep your idealism.

@Moth Wan Because we will not let Emplemon fall. And we will educate the zoomers. They like free stuff as much as the next guy, trust me.....

@Moth Wan Because we will not let Emplemon fall. And we will educate the zoomers. They like free stuff as much as the next guy, trust me.....

@Kriplovski I mean, no one is meant to adopt the rule of the people. It's just that the people who do, happen to be stronger. The monarchy was weak, so it fell. Simple as that. Because power mongering never changes.

@MMFan2004 you'll get exactly the same thing under communism. unless you get rid of the yids that keep the oligarchy running for good, then you're doomed to an eternity of serfdom under ruthless merchants who were never meant to adopt the mantle of ruler of the people.

@MMFan2004 This is not capitalism. This is oligarchy and cronyism. Capitalism is just the ownership of means of production in the hands of private individuals.

@MMFan2004 This is not capitalism. This is oligarchy and cronyism. Capitalism is just the ownership of means of production in the hands of private individuals.


I love to see a youtuber evolve from shitposting to making actually thought-provoking, well-produced, well-researched quality content


It's so impressive how inept YouTube management is that it just crosses the line into completely and utterly depressing.


You’ve got to give Emp some props for putting on a joker voice and even dressing up as the joker.


I never thought Emp's face reveal would be with a Joker cosplay

I never thought he'd scream the N word at an elderly woman!

@Arbil Arms Ltd. President half latino half asian

There are at least two old videos of his that are from 3 years ago, or so.

@ِ yeah, his "inside the mind of jake paul" parody.

Wasn't his face also in a Mumkey Jones video?

Gaming Lakitu He revealed his face in his Ackbar YTP series Part 3 at the end of the video, saying that nobody’s gonna watch that video. For the most part, he’s right. No one knows

his face reveal was on wheel of punishment a while ago


If copyright law is to actually be enforced I think we're all getting executed


5:15
"It should work like the patent system protecting the small guys from big corporations."
HAH! Emp, read up on software patent wars. The patent system is completely broken for anything that is even slightly abstract.


Imagine being the one of the most educational channels on youtube. <br>EmpLemon doesn’t have to imagine it.

Imagine being the one of the most educational channels on youtube.
EmpLemon doesn’t have to imagine it.


EmpLemon has become the new watchdog of online bullshit. Copyright, exploitation, and more corporate bullshit overtaking our platform. Hats off to you my man, from one YouTuber to another.


Emp.  I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who DESPISES copyright law.  I started my personal crusade against the practice 10 years ago when I found out the Harley Davidson exhaust sound was copyrighted.  So you're telling me that I need permission to play the sound an engine makes?  It's a fucking sound that an engine just so happens to make.  You've got to be shitting me.

@ポスターピクセル that's literally how America works wym

@Reeseroni The Macaroni Imagine if cancer was copyrighted.

that's like copyrighting the sound of an instrument

the streamer vinesauce got copyright claimed for using cricket noises once<br>because now you can just OWN the sounds an animal makes

the streamer vinesauce got copyright claimed for using cricket noises once
because now you can just OWN the sounds an animal makes

Bladed Angel made a video of vette c8
Got claimed by Ferrari, dunno if it's legit.

Maybe big brain time? Claim toyota 2JZ engine sound and enjoy!


Just wanna say I love EmpLemon's taste in music. Every time I watch one of his vids I'm treated to something. Love that he included "Thick as a Brick" even when it's a watered down version to avoid a copyright claim.


>go on Spotify<br>>tfw there's none of the millions of sung tales and unwritten Celtic chants

>go on Spotify
>tfw there's none of the millions of sung tales and unwritten Celtic chants

>Go on Spotify.
>No Tenacious D/Evangelion mashups
>why live

>mfw dmca strike from spotify in background of twitch stream<br>>mfw felony charge

>mfw dmca strike from spotify in background of twitch stream
>mfw felony charge

DMCA claimed for taking from quantum leap.

@phlog_dog<br>>not using greentext on youtube

@phlog_dog
>not using greentext on youtube

;_; and they laugh ta mewhen i download me songs onme computha' <br>why ol' da hate' to us the bootleggrs, mateys?

;_; and they laugh ta mewhen i download me songs onme computha'
why ol' da hate' to us the bootleggrs, mateys?


Thank you for speaking up about this. WMG and UMG are like the greediest music company ever. They already have tons of money from Spotify plays and album sells yet have the audacity to claim so many YouTube videos because it contains like 20 seconds of their music playing in the background. I really hope someone competent that experienced YouTube's broken copyright system replaced Susan one day. Susan is a goddamn puppet.


mad props for Thick as a Brick, last I heard Ian's been in poor health lately, Jethro Tull is incredible and it's a delight to hear


Copyright law: Am I a joke to you?

EmpLemon: Most likely

@Tom Hill there is 3 versions of this guy and no one knows are they the same person.

Oh hey Mustachio, what happened to your mustache? Also your monocle is gone too.

Just Some Guy without a Mustache it’s you again

sup Mustache. We like fortnite! We like fortnite!

You can probably change EmpLemon to the overwhelming majority of the 99%.


"At first, I thought prohibition was a good thing. People were drinking more and having a lot more fun. But without beer, prohibition doesn't work."
 — Homer Simpson, 1997
(from episode S8-E18, 4F15)


So how can we reform the law?

No seriously, you got me really wanting to reform these stupid laws.

So how can we reform the law?

No seriously, you got me _really_ wanting to reform these stupid laws.

Take out all of congress above the age of 40

@JollyJuice well i think they should be satisfied with the 3000 years they get

@DrewPicklesTheDark That's a rather dark outlook on it. I think better general awareness of the issue is a better place to start when looking for change. Disney even said themselves that they backed off from further increasing copyright periods when they realized they'd get substantial public backlash: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/

You can't, as long as lobbying is legal you won't be able to. Well, that or major reformations after some kind of societal collapse.


Your love for this platform is evident. Your passion is infectious. Keep on keeping on.


Was expecting him to pull out the letter "N" from his Ridge wallet...

I thought it was gunna be a middle finger.

@Harlemfries digger is our word, but you can say excavator

i never say hard R b-word. i only say bigga


This channel easily deserves 10, 20 million subscribers. I have no idea why it only has 800k.


It's been a hot minute since this video was uploaded, but I wanted to say thanks for this series Emp. Honestly I feel like issues with copyright nowadays are just a problem that'll go under everyone's noses until suddenly, one day, something bad happens (like it keeps happening every few years or so. These videos were so great on this subject I'm even writing a basic research paper on copyright law for a class of mine.