Twilight KILLED the Real Pinkie

to everyone asking, i have addressed the pinkie clone from saddle row review, in my video "pinkie pie's clone": https://youtu.be/prD4Y7Y_cks

One possibility is that they purposely gave out false information to prevent more clones. If someone found the mirror pool and tried jumping in nothing would happen. However you don't want the public to know the truth of how to make clones of themselves, so they told false directions. Can you imagine a bunch of Cutie Mark Crusaders' clones? That's a freighting idea.

There is one thing that all three of them completely overlooked.

Throughout that episode(though specifically after the clones cloned themselves multiple times), there was one Pinkie Pie who didn’t act like all the others did. While all the others acted crazy and goofy, one Pinkie acted sad and depressed. This Pinkie was the real Pinkie, because seeing clones of yourself driving your friends to insanity would be enough to bring someone to that point. The motivation to complete the test is clear.

She was the one who was left sitting there staring at the paint. She knew that it would be hard, but if it meant that she could enjoy hanging out with her friends without a bunch of crazy clones ruining everything, then it would be worth it 100%

But we saw the Tree of Harmony actively vanquish Chrysalis’ “clones” of the Mane 6 when she tried to steal the Elements of Harmony. If this Pinkie was indeed a clone, the Tree would’ve vaporised her long ago and she probably wouldn’t even be able to wield the Element of Laughter.

As soon as I saw that episode I instantly theorised that the real Pinkie was replaced from that episode onwards, people say that the Elements of Harmony would stop working if its a fake but if its a clone she'd realistically be exactly the same. The chances are, she doesn't even know she's a clone herself. If all those pinkies did end up some place else however, then the real Pinkie likely would have fallen into insanity in a world with nothing but herself.

They said the “real” Pinkie Pie would do anything for her friends. But did you see Pinkie in Sunset’s Backstage Pass? Sunset asked her to do a simple task to help her but Pinkie kept on getting distracted by churros.

If the original Pinkie had indeed been mistaken for a clone and zapped away, the Elements of Harmony would've stopped working, because the clone Pinkie is not actually friends with the rest of the Mane 6 and the Elements would've noticed that.

Plus, Pinkie could easily have told a false story to Starlight who in turn would share that false story with Sunburst

I'm not buying it. Without exception, in the episode all of the Pinkie clones behaved as one-dimensional caricatures of the real Pinkie, exaggerating and focusing entirely on her desire for fun. Her love for her friends and neighbors was completely absent. The only one to express anything other than that was the original, and that was the key to her success. If she failed she would lose her friends, and that was a far bigger motivator than losing her life.
Sunburst and Starlight had, at best, a second-hand account of what happened to inform their conversation. Even without deliberate misinformation (which is a possibility), the details were more likely to be wrong than right.

Pinkie is well known to break the 4th wall, and if she broke it enough, she would probably get the memories of the original through this power. Therefore, the memory problem would be solved.

I’m not convinced, as Sawtooth said the clones didn’t know the rest of the mane 6 and there is no evidence to support the theory that only one Pinkie can contain memories. We also saw how depressed she got from knowing she caused all of the clones. We know when Pinkie gets actually sad, there is something big going on
But I’ll admit I’m kinda bias, I want the Pinkie We know to be the real so I think it is the real

i know it's been over a while since you ""returned"" but i just wanted to express my appreciation, your videos always put a huge smile on my face <33 ive been a subscriber since 2015 and there's never a moment where i don't enjoy your theories and im proud of how far you've come
thank you sawtooth and good luck in the future <33 here's to more years of mlp

Plot Twist: Twilight killed the human Pinkie. The real Pinkie was in the Equestria Girls movies all along

Dang it I was just researching this a couple days ago! Stop reading my mind Sawtooth! 😆🧐

On a side note, awesome theoretics as usual. You're really good at these and that is a gift 😇

Also nice tie-in cloning yourself 😎

As i’ve seen in other shows/videos clones don’t really have any memories of the original, if the real pinkie pie did die then the pinkie clone would have kept jumping and saying “fun! fun! fun!” Instead of actually caring about the mane 5. This could still be right as equestria has many mysteries, that’s all i have to say tbh i could be wrong

Now there's an interesting, though scary, thought. Thanks for sharing your ideas with us! ^_^
I wonder how the Mirror Pool works and how it was formed. Are the clones actual living beings or magical constructs with limited sentience (or at least the semblance of it)? Given enough time, would they have gained proper life and sapience?
How does the clone banishing spell even work? Twilight finds the spell in a book and says that there's a chance she might banish the real Pinkie by mistake. Is this fear based on an actual statement from the book, or is it just speculation on Twilight's part? Maybe the book only explains that the spell banishes its targets to the Mirror Pool with the assumption that it'll only be used on clones. If the text had neglected to mention any other details, Twilight would have been wary about using it on the real Pinkie. However, the spell probably wouldn't do anything to the original if it were specifically made to dispel magical clones.
If the book HAD explicitly stated that even the original could be banished, that would have meant that the spell converted ANY physical body, clone or original, into magical energy to be sent to the pool. How would one retrieve an original if they were accidentally banished? o.O

Also, I think this is my first time seeing Sine and Cosine. How did they come to be?

It breaks my heart that Sawtooth never got to have another chat with his dear clone, and that we can only guess at how the clones must have lived their lives. I really love the lore you are making for your characters!!!

There is also the chance that the real pinkie didn’t wanna risk it and fled, hoping that twilight would realize it’s not her while she lied low, and ended up becoming one of the clones they missed. Also, I always thought that pinkie had just been pulled into a parallel universe.







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I've always had a hunch that Twilight's spell, despite her misgivings, wouldn't have worked on the real Pinkie Pie. The mirror pool clones were nothing but half-aware projections, nothing like the real person.

If I went into the MLP world, I'd just ask Pinkie, "Were you pulled out of the mirror pool?" And is she said yes, I would be having a panic attack while telling every pony the truth.

Maybe when Pinkie said "I dove into the pool" she was referring to the clones or talking in some third person stuff

When I heard that “All the pinkie clones wanted to survive” that actually made me feel bad

I don’t think she killed Pinkie, as it was a friendship test. FRIENDS were on the line.
As far as I’m aware of the clones were more interested in “fun” rather than friends.
If Pinkie really wanted to she could sit still for hours tbh
BUT
Your theory could’ve easily happened in an alternate/parallel universe. In the original universe, the original Pinkie is well and alive. But in the alternate one, Twilight could have accidentally killed the original without realizing it hence the clone living on as the Pinkie we all know and love

🤯🤔While this video mostly continued to emphasize ONE point (a good one) about why the real Pinkie might have died for 9 minutes, it was still a good topic to discuss and the channel lore with the clones was interesting! I always thought the test in the episode was faulty and the clone decimation harsh. I always assumed the right one was chosen but come to think of it the Pinkie who came up with the plan was acting slightly out of character being mopey and suspiciously more focused than usual! They could have tested the Pinkey sense instead or asked more personalized questions or tested for magic in the clones that was from the pond and NOT the real Pinkie!

Well, I didn't understand much, but, if the clone survived and was the one living in ponyville, then how come the elements of harmony were getting activated with the help of the clone?! I mean, it has to take the original element of laughter to shoot magic rainbow rays, right??

I love how he (Sawtooth) does theories and there's an actual lore/story with his OC.

I actually really like this idea! And I thought of something, to fill in a blank: When the real pinkie got sent to the pool, everything, meaning memories, element, compassion, etc. got transferred to the clone thanks to the pools magic! Btw, the clones are amazing 😁

I bet it was just some editors mistake, But your clone and their clone's intelligence reaches no bounds
and their British accent: 10000000000/10

As you said, this is entirely reliant on clones gaining the memories of the original. It turns this from plausible to highly unlikely.

One thought kept going through my mind about it all. If you recall the episode "Saddle Row Review", there was a callback to the Mirror Pool episode and you could see an obvious clone Pinkie in the background. Who's to say that was the one that Sunburst came across about the story? Or what if he misread it in one of the chapter entries in the book from "Fame and Misfortune"?

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that the real Pinkie was killed off.

I've always thought that we just switched to the point of view of the clone that Pinkie pulled out of the pool. Or they just did it to show more about the world the clone Pinkies were coming from. I think that the remaining clones, or the ones after the first clone, were just reflections, or a lot of them or most of them were, and those ones that weren't reflections either went back or started their own life, and neither the first clone nor the ones that were't reflections, and a few others, weren't there and instead went out to live their own lives. And that the spell just sent the reflections back, not killed them. Besides, even if it was a clone that survived, the real Pinkie probably just merged with the clone.

Slow down, didn’t we see a surviving clone of Pinkie? It’s what Sine and Sawtooth we’re talking about the first time they really met! Maybe that clone told the story. It’s possible, I’m sure she didn’t want any more clones to go through what she went through(though she probably found a way to escape or just saw what happened and didn’t partake in it.) That’s my theory, tell me if you like it!

Hold on, just looking at this thumbnail, no pinkie clone or real pinkie is dead. Twilight said she would just “send them back to where they came from”, not “kill them”.

I remember Pinki having a legit profile room where everyone's favourite types of cupcakes are recorded. Perhaps that helped the clone learn her story.

and yes, the sit-and-stare challenge for the clones would have been testing the display of LOYALTY not laughter

This reminds me of the Star Trek transporter problem. If the machine effectively kills you and then rebuilds an identical you on the other side that is impossible to distinguish from the original, and nobody notices the difference, did it really kill you?

There were two instances, one when a Pinkie inflated fingers on her hoof and one where a Pinkie made a G3 Pinkie face. In each case Twilight blasted both the Pinkie who made the commotion and the neigh-bor who glanced over.
So in an incident where Pinkie was guaranteed to glance at the commotion, both ponies were eliminated. Pinkie could have easily been zapped either time.
The only sure way to know you get the right Pinkie Pie is to question each pony one at a time to see who remembers events from before the cloning. Only one has the original memories.

It may have been a clone who told the story of the pool, but it's more likely that the real Pinkie lives in Ponyville while her clone lives abroad and helps out from time to time thus improving Pinkie's prediction and planning abilities.

I'm pretty sure that pinkie we know today is not a clone. In "Finallly solving Pinkie Pie" (your video), you said that when Pinkie took the bewitching bell (with chaos magic), you said that Pinkie couldn't control the magic all at one, so It spread throughout her timeline, past—>present—>future. But if the current pinkie was a clone, then it couldn't spread to before the original Pinkie cloned herself. And I'm pretty sure the memories wouldn't be able to transfer to the clone. Even so, I'm pretty sure the clone couldn't be depressed, since they were all happy and careless when they got out of the mirror pool. But if all of Pinkie's magic and memories died transfer to the clone once she "died", then that could've been possible. But I'm pretty sure it didn't happened, because when twilight killed the original pinkie, she fully got sent to the mirror pool, and there wasnt any blast or laser of magic that transferred to the "clone". If when pinkie got sent to the mirror pool, the chaos magic inside her would be too much for the pool to handle, so it should've released a blast or laser of magic. But it didn't. Because we didnt see it. And you can see all magical things being performed because of the magic aura thing. I THINK that throughout the whole show, theres never been an magical performance that didn't have an aura. Unless you're wrong about the whole theory and I'm wrong.

When I watched the episode of the clones and stuff I admit I was confused to why they had a test for Pinkie to watch paint dry, to find the real version of herself. It’s like they were trying to kill her.

The main flaw I see with Sine's theory is the personality of the Pinkie's
If you think about it, throughout the episode, all the Pinkie clones always, and i mean constantly , had a chaotic personality. However, the original Pinkie Pie still had her other emotions, as we saw from the scene where she was sad amidst all the clones screaming "FUN!"
This can also explain how she was relieved at the end of the test. She wasn't screaming or anything, she was just like "I would never get distracted if it meant leaving my friends" or smth like that
Sine's idea of the clones just temporarily not having the original's memories could actually also add onto this counter, as a clone would probably take longer than between its creation and being sent back to be able to feel the same emotions as the original

I think we're discounting that Pinkie in the disguise, as we discussed in the episode about the Pinkie-Miku lovechild. If the surviving Pinkie was a clone, aside from keeping herself unknown to the Mane 6, what reason would the other Pinkie have to hide herself from the clone? If anything, if it was a clone, they would be more active together for whatever reason, as long as the Mane 6 are not involved.

If the real Pinkie has been dead and the one who survived is a clone wouldn’t the clone Pinkie try to get rid of Twilight for killing the real Pinkie or try to revive the real Pinkie?

I think that the true pinkie was still alive because there is no evidence backing up the temporary amnesia statement and one thing not being backed up can ruin an entire theory

Omg I’m so glad you’re still doing g4 theories! G5 is fine, but I grew up with g4 and it will always be my favourite generation!

Sense we’re all already sad this might be the case:
Imagine the last pinkie twilight killed was the real pinkie, who thought she might survive to the end. Stressed, yet happy she accidentally gets distracted and is blown up by her “best friend”

It looked like her reflection was in it's own world. Perhaps the clones are really just in alternate universes and the mirror pool is a portal? And for the fact they can't remember it could be a simple memory-erasing spell, which comes to the fact that is could wear off, or any clones that come through disappear from their own world, which is terrible.

5:08 The difference is the clone test meant Pinkie's friendships were on the line, and she could lose them forever. She was still happy fighting alongside her friends when the villains attacked. Her friends are the most important thing to her.

I’d like to add though that I feel like we can filter out the pinkies who were obviously clones who got bored vs who got distracted. For example the pinkie who noticed the bird=ADHD symptom vs the pinkie who looked away when rainbow tried to distract them. Sooo if we wanted to find potential real pinkies we could 😂

I just wanted to note that the first mirror clone of Pinkie took off looking for fun, she didn't have any of Pinkie's memories and so it may be this was the one survivor that we see appear later. Her fist memory would be the pool so she'd react to hearing about it later but because she's developed her own life far away from Ponyville there hasn't been any reason for her to be exterminated as the others were.

Also I'd like to point out that even though we seem to be following the viewpoint of the real Pinkie in that episode there was a point where she, herself, wasn't even sure that she was the original. When she was rounded up with the others into the hall she was depressed and believed she was a clone too, questioning her existence. As someone who has ADHD and severe depression I can personally say that when you're having a depression episode nothing else matters in the world and you just zone out so when she was told to watch the paint she was zoning out the entire time. Hence she was surprised at the end when she won.

Temporary amnesia can turn permanent if there's nothing to stimulate that part of the memory so the point that Pinkie practically documented every aspect of her life, was surrounded by friends and family, and lots of other stimuli could possibly be responsible for her remembering things.

Btw, may be there's still a time spell around that you might be able to use to transport yourself back to right after you were turned to stone. Just avoid any more cocatrises and there shouldn't be any paradox.

Whatever happened to the mythical creatures and the changelings though? We only see the three pony tribes in MLP Gen. 5 so did they die off when magic disappeared or are they somewhere else entirely cutting off ties again with the ponies?

You know, since that episode years ago I’ve never stopped thinking about if Twilight actually killed the real Pinkie

I don’t think Twi killed our Pinkie based on her reaction and how she made the suggestion in the first place but I am curious how her one interview from the episode where Rarity opens her Canterlot boutique could either support or disprove the theory…

What I mean is was the frustration in her voice regret for even making the clones or frustration watching paint dry is what it took to get the real Pinkie gone? Was the clone behind the sandwich just scared for her own life or was she afraid their cover would be blown by the reporter? What is the motive and reason to stay out of site anyway? And like you said how would a clone gain all the knowledge our Pinkie had and more importantly would the others notice her acting weird even for Pinkie?

I ask this last question since Twi has used time travel before and after the pillars are brought back she could ask Starswirl if there was a way to reverse what happened and bring our Pinkie back since I believe he wrote the time travel spell and has knowledge of these things

Of course we have more logic than the show which was all over the place relied on phrases like 1000 years and constantly mixed up outcomes or rushed the intro of characters just to please fans and quickly end the series on TV (never read a comic so never saw season 10)…the series was still great but has a lot of holes and things it could have done and/or handled better

"The original was killed" implies that Twilight's spell would have killed anypony she cast it on, Mirror Pool or no. Can we talk about that? If that's true, there is an INSTAKILL spell

Scenes that play with magic mirrors shift perspective between real and reflection a lot in media. A couple of times in star wars even. For all inents and purposes, the real pinky and the mirror pinky were the same up until the instant one came out of the pool. The way I imagine it works, Pinkie would have had both the memories of jumping in the pool and pulling a pinkie out of the pool. Otherwise just standing near the pool could cause clones to come out. The original pinky survived the event.

Say what you will about Sine and Cosine, but they stayed on track with their narrative. They didn't go off on a tangent.

I'm going to be completely honest, I've always thought Twilight's plan to find the real Pinkie was completely bogus.

But were the clones killed? I always figured that Twilight's magic dispelled the mirror pool's magic and transferred it back to the source, the mirror pool. I haven't watched the episode in a while, but that's been my perception of it ever since I was first watching it...

I always end up going months between watching these and forget that oh yeah there's a Storyline Here and slowly re-learn that, start to care about these other characters and then I'm hit in the face with you having been a statue for the rest of their lives and the one vague memory I have of that bubbles to the surface and it feels like I just got punched. I keep forgetting that these videos have story and get emotions. the thinking they must've done alright for themselves, guess we all became statues.. I'm Not going to bingewatch these I'm not going to bingewatch these I'm not going to

If I remember correctly. Weren’t most of the clones just shouting ‘FUN!’ All the time
The clones cared more about having fun than friends
Also, the elements of harmony would’ve probably noticed that Pinkie wasn’t actually friends with the mane 6 if she was a clone right?
I think this is the farthest reach I’ve ever seen for a theory of yours Sawtooth

This sounds like a series we all can enjoy!

How can the real pinkie pie die, and then a clone of her use the element of laughter, when the elements of harmony are strictly binded to a soul until it is time to move on?

The title literally hooked me in-

a year ago i found this video, and understood the concept. Now though, i think that it wouldnt actually have been possible (+ you left out a lot of important information and ignored it by bringing up the idea of twilight losing her reputation , no offense , sine) now, the most important piece of information has not yet found a way to fit into the picture your creating. The elements of harmony. A clone pinkie pie would not have ever had any connections with the elements of harmony and as we have seen in multiple episodes, the elements of harmony are only compatible, and therefor only useful, with the pony they were once connected to. The mane 6. So how could a clone pinkie, who doesnt have any connected memory with the original, be compatible with the necklace? Exactly,, she would not have. STILL its a great theory you made here. What i think the most possible possibility is that since the way twilight decided to round up all of the pinkies, doesnt sit right with me. Sure the original pinkie mightve won the paint staring contest, but i dont think she was alone. They roughly rounded up a bunch of clones. Not at all working with precise measures, making it extremely sus coming from twilight as she- well... would never let the life of her friend who is connected to her on a magical level, depend on such a lazy idea. Now what i think exactly happened, since the mane 6 made it too easy for a clone to escape, is that well, one or even more pinkie clones werent there at the clone byebye-ification. they were having fun, somewhere else. Also since we see multiple pinkie clones in the future briefly put on screen, it definitely confirms they made their escape. Now whats especially interesting about this case is the bewitching bell incident that happens later on. a lot of theories have been made about that pinkie pie touching that bell, altered multiple timelines but what if, and this is really a what if situation with me making up wild theories, but what if, the bell made all of pinkies still alive clones combining inside of pinkie, altering pinkies memory in some way to make her share memories with the clones, making her have weird memory changes (which is really like pinkie because sometimes she remembers everything and sometimes she remembers nothing) but what i mean by this is, the thing pinkie told sunburst/starlight, mightve been a sloppy mistake with pinkie pies memory. OKAY I KNOW PEOPLE WILL HATE THIS THEORY BECAUSE IT MAKES 0 SENSE BUT JUST HEAR ME OUT. Its very far fetched but whatever its a show about colorful horses, the fact we are making theories about it is already far fetched.

It was shown that the clones were very two dimensional in their thinking, and it showed that the true Pinkie was the only one to consistently have complex emotions and thought. If you’re willing to suggest that a memory transfer was possible, what is to stop the reverse from happening? What if the many many Pinkies who remembered going into the pool’s memories were given to the original? There is also the chance that Pinkie didn’t mention it at all and Twilight told Sunburst by reading about it, and perhaps its documentation was written by a clone. I mean how did the author know that it was possible to send the original into the pool by mistake?

What if the "clone" of Pinky Pie in the saddle row review is the REAL one? Hear me out. Real Pinky was questioning whether she was real or not by the time twilight came up with that test. Perhaps both survived, and real pinky had not been rounded up or had wandered off and been missed. She returns, sees the paint drying contest is over, and another her is interacting with all her friends.

Either one of two things happen from there:
1. Pinky decides she must be the clone and goes off to live her own life, or
2. Pinky knows she's real, but sees her clone so happy with her friends and doesn't have the heart to out her clone and get her disappeared into the mirror pool. Pinky may have even gone back to this clone in private and filled her in on more details and memories until she had enough to actually replace pinky, being able to bond with her friends just as she had, and thus able to do the elementless friendship transformation by then.

I rewatched your video on the pinkie clone saddle review video before commenting this to make sure I wasn't repeating something you came up with.

That would explain why, when questioned, they get the clone's perspective, but the real pinky could have survived.

What is the "real" Pinkie? If the surviving Pinkie has all memories and characteristics of the original with no way to differentiate the two is that not the same as being the original?
Though I think the case for wrongdoing may be stronger here than the Tuvix incident.

...our pinkie is not the clone. Remember, all the clones ever wanted was to have fun, fun and fun all the time. ITS ALL THEY SAID.

Mlp theory: the magic calamity that you mentioned in the where is twilight episode got me thinking. What if the calamity came from discord? Now hear me out, discord was obviously attached to fluttershy but she was a mortal and would eventually die, knowing Discord he might have wanted to make her immortal like he was but she would obviously refuse so she could die peacefully. Though after she died discord might’ve lost control of his magic due to his grief of losing his very best friend, triggering the magical calamity in harmony magic causing ponies to slowly lose their magic. This subsequently broke the harmony magic restraining the everfree allowing it to spread (which explains why there is still plant life and animals taking care of themselves).
On another note what or who is controlling the sun since Luna, Twilight, and Celestia are gone?

Just imagine if the clone pinkies actually came from alternate realities for the same reason, to make clones of themselves only for our Pinkie Pie to be the first one to say the spell.

There's just one problem, the clones clearly don't know anything about pinkies past. They don't have her memories, if they did, she wouldn't have needed to teach them the names of her friends.
But in countless episodes, pinky pride for example, we see pinky reflecting on the things she did in the past

Even went I watched the Episode Twilight test seem way too easy to fail but beside unknownable quirks of Mirror Madness, I know one test that would work.

Have a test where the Pinkie Pies have to travel to a really far away party with obstacles blocking the ponkies poes. The real Pinkie would move mountains to make sure a Pony was having a good party.

I'd like to think that the clones were just really fragile existences that could be "destroyed" and returned to the pool with a small Laser spell. The clones didn't have their own established minds, just rolled off of fragments of Pinkie's mannerisms. The serious atmosphere of the test and the test itself were more likely just to see who was the most determined. Seeing as the clones had to be taught, the real Pinkie had the most motivation to stay as opposed to the clones who just had basic survival instincts. The thing with Sunburst was more of a fluke. I don't know how much Pinkie described her experiences, so there might have been misunderstandings. That, and I can't see Twilight straight up murdering sentients that easily, unless she knew that the clones were not conscious of themselves enough to go beyond their instincts and teachings. I think Twilight had all that in mind off screen and has gone for the Test with that in mind. Cartoony logic made it so the real Pinkie was the last, she could've been discovered on the very first second due to a fluke, where she would've gotten a minor bruise at best. Like I said, I think clones are fragile like that (mostly due to the purely magical nature of the pool). That were my thoughts on the matter, I hope it's a good supplemental ^^'.

Edit: I can see Twilight making up an extremely (sorta) complicated plan to take out the clones systemetically by using/testing the deepness of their motivation. More of a character based argument than a factual one, I know.

What if the Pinkie Pie in the trench coat in "Saddle Row Review" is the real Pinkie Pie? She some how returned and kept out of the public eye. Or, maybe the surviving clone felt bad about what happened and figured out how to bring the real Pinkie Pie back. They had a cordial parting of ways and sometimes traded places. I still think the real Pinkie Pie survived, but watching paint dry was a flawed test. A better test would be to quiz them on things only the real Pinkie Pie would know that she wouldn't have time to teach them. Like "How did Rarity get rid of the parasprites?" How many clones would that question filter out? I still don't like the clones being killed. There had to be another way of dealing with them.

The truth is that we could never know whether or not the Pinkie Pie left is the real one or not because they could lie and might not remember anything previously of Pinkie Pie’s memory and make up things said by others.

She was able to use her element of harmony and the one in saddle row review could’ve been a clone and Sunburst might have met her first or she spread the story or something

It's a kids show! How much is there to think about? HAhahaahaha. I am really impressed of how much little details you have noticed, and how your brain works its magic into those video's! Please keep going!

Although... There is this 1 episode in the series I never really understood. The revenge of Crysalis to Starlight Glimmer. She created the main 6 out of trees, for what exactly? Not one thing of her plan worked to get revenge on Starlight. She wanted to use the wooden 6 to have power over the elements of harmony, but they never succeeded. But what if they had? Then what? What would be her plan to hit Starlight? For what part of her plan would she need the elemants of harmony?

It seems more logic to me that she would only seek the elements of harmony to be the new ruler of equestria, and however the fact of Crysalis now ruling Equestria and eating all the love out of it would hurt Starlight, I think it really isn't a personal revenge to Starlight, but to all of Equestria.

So what would her real plan of revenge be?

At the end of the episode "To where and back again 2" She said that there was no plan Starlight could emagine that would even come close to what she would do to her. And when the actual episode of Crysalis' revenge came, it didn't seem that horrible to me...

does someone have an explanation for my questions? It does not matter how long it might be. I just want to understand this. Lol.

I’m guessing it wasn’t a clone since pinkie was able to use her necklace in later seasons, because if it were a clone she wouldn’t be able to use the element of harmony but I love the theory as always

well i never thought about this before, when i watched the episode, there was no doubt. i think the best way to know is the "ground poking pinkie pie is" because she is the only sus, and she said that she commited that she cloned her self and also about not leaving her friends but im not of the theory expert but i think the real pinkie pie dont want to leave her friends so she focused her self to avoid distraction so i think the pinkie pie showed in the entire series is real.

wow, this theory broke my head, now I kept thinking about all the possibilities, it is also interesting how you did it to travel to the future of g5, I honestly think you are a genius.

It's an interesting theory but the spell twilight uses to get rid of the pinkie clones didn't kill them, as you point out the clones walk out of the mirror pool, the spell just sends the clones back to where they came from, although if you consider Twilight may have send the real pinkie to a mirror universe then we got something

How would clone pinkie use the elements of harmony? In theory the magic in the element would not activate unless it is the original wearer. If not cloning must have been tried to steal and use the elements of harmony. Magic knows the truth and it would not activate for the non original wearer.

Have we forgotten about the scene during the interview where another Pinkie Pie was found in the background? It's possible that Sunburst met that Pinkie first, and got the story from them. Additionally, it should be mentioned that, despite her tendency to get distracted, when a problem affects her and her values directly, she tends to hyperfocus on said task, especially if said thing has negatively affected her emotional state, like the surprise party episode where she thought her friends were turning on her, and her interactions with Cranky Doodle.

Part of me wants to say, the pinkie clone seen in Manhattan may be the real pinkie pie, what if she realised how bad the situation was and left when the clones got out of hand.

It just seems to me like Pinkie wouldn't have been very specific, just saying she made clones at the mirror pool, and the others assumed she did so by diving in. Doesn't she refer to what she did in the episode itself?

I think the “og” pinkie (the one before the mirror pool episode) WAS the clone. If you remember, pinkie dove into the pool. (Which you specified that anyone who dives into the pool is a clone) so I think the clone pinkie crossed universes with the og one

Recall, if you will, that the surviving Pinkie was severely depressed during the second half of that episode. All the other Pinkies showed only the most basic form of the original's personality, the hyper bouncing around and chorus of "FUN!!!", As is a clone's nature. They barely showed signs of sentience, let alone the sapience required to feel such remorse as to question one's own identity. As to why Sunburst got it wrong, perhaps Pinkie did not go into detail, but instead simply repeated the rhyme, believing that to be explanation enough, and since no other pony is known to have used the mirror pool besides Pinkie and possibly the original royal guards if we go with that theory, and Pinkie has shown us how dangerous it can be, there has been no further research, and only the original pinky knows the truth.

Big flaw in this thing:

The spell used to remove the Clone Pinkies was not killing them, but merely returning their essence to the pool! Striking a Pinkie with the spell, reverted it to its purest form; magic! The mirror pool is magic by nature. Therefore, regardless if the mirror pool is a gateway to a parallel universe, or simply a magic pool of water, had Twillght struck the original Pinkie, nothing would have happened, as the OG Pinkie is a denizen of this world, which the spell would detect!

I think we saw in the saddle row review at least one Pinkie clone survived. And she was wearing a reporter hat. Maybe she published her experience and THAT'S where Starlight and Sunburst are basing their knowledge?🤷‍♂️

During the episode, the original pinky pie became sad, and in the room with all the clones to watch paint dry, the only sad one was the one that survived. Therefore it must've been the original pinky. (I'm mainly pointing this out because otherwise it'll ruin my childhood)

There's still something to be addressed

What happened to spike?
Did he leave to the dragon lands after twilight's death?
Is he still alive?

What happened to celestia and Luna?
They were alicorns are they still alive?

Where are all the other species
Changelings ox buffalo Griffin's etc

This is not true cause the elements of harmony are draw to the original ponies and if it's a clone the element of laughter wouldn't work

I'd like to point something out. In the episode where Rarity opened up her boutique in Manehattan (forgot the name of it ^^'), it was established that there's another Pinkie clone that lives out in the wild. What if Sunburst heard the story from that Pinkie? The clones, though a bit more one-track minded, all had a similar personality and energy to the original, so he might not have noticed anything wrong.

Sine was right about the perspective change though. If you look at the background and then compare it to where Sunburst and Starlight entered, it matches the perspective of the Pinkie that didn't go in.

It’s canon that they weren’t able to round up all the clones (in the episode “The Saddle Row Review” a clone pinkie is spotted sitting behind the “real” Pinkie). So, you have to take into account that at some point Sunburst could’ve talked to a clone, but not realized it.

I have always thought the real pinkie pie is stuck in the pool's dimension, while the clones really did get killed once they touched the water's surface from twilight's spell. I also find this idea totally dreadful.....who says the mirror pool isnt a dimension where time is non progressing.....?? I just can't help but imagine pinkie pie with flat hair and totally depressed that she made the mistake and lost everything she cares about!! that episode REALLY messed me up....i had to stop binge watching for a full year. :(

Nah, I think the real Pinkie survived. There's no established lore that memories transfer between clones, and I highly doubt Dave Polsky or anyone at Hasbro or DHX intended for there to be any doubt that the real Pinkie lived on. The episode actually somewhat reminds me of an Are You Afraid of the Dark episode, which I also somehow doubt is the original such story, but FiM's take on the concept has a happier ending, and I think it's supposed to be taken as such.

This might sound a bit crazy, but what if Sawtooth’s “accidental” chicken encounter was a set up?

Your forgetting the clone that DID live on in the show. Go back and watch the saddle row review. After one of pinkies interviews we see a clone of her sitting in the both next to hers. She could have told starlight this.

If we’ve been following a pinkie clone since season 3 wouldn’t the tree of harmony know she’s a fake and revoke her element of laughter status thus denying her access to the rainbow power? Also wouldn’t her family know she’s not the real one?

I always felt like this "test" twilight performed was way too cruel and too risky

I have a theory...

When Twilight came out of the portal, Pinkie Pie correctly guessed everything that Twilight did when she was a human. How did she know all of that? Perhaps this wasn't the real Pinkie! What if the human Pinkie went through the portal and took the real Pinkie's place? That's just my theory though!

Great theory as always though they could have also got the idea of cloning from a book or myth just like pinkie did. Right?

I'm not sure, the one living now is the clone, because, don't the elements of harmony know who the real ponies are?
And besides, Sunburst could get wrong, or Pinkie could just want to tell another story.







Or, pinkie, just seems to keep up with things so much, even which others can't, so is it possible that she knew how the clones came out?

You said at the beginning that one clone ran off, plus we know a clone survived because it was seen behind Pinkie during the interview for Rarity's new shop. Sunburst did hear the story from a clone but the original didn't die. When that's my thoughts what do you think?

The point about Sunburst seeming to have heard about the cloning process from the wrong side is interesting, but I think we still don't have enough information to do more than speculate. The questionable test has always implied it's statistically unlikely that they retained the original Pinkie; the apparently consistent low quality of the cloning has always implied that they did manage to pick out the Pinkie they were looking for. We really don't know enough to reconcile that conflict.

Sine, I have something to say to you... OBJECTION!

Sine makes an interesting, and compelling argument, if it weren't for one flaw in his theory... Allow me to poke a hole in his theory:

Were she really to kill Pinkie Pie in the first place, the real one that is, slams hands on table Phoenix Wright Style how do we know it was really the only way or not!?

It would be impossible to tell either way due to what Sine said about Clones simply lying!!! That means, the only other way WAS the Friendship Test!!! Let's say Twilight really did kill The Original Pinkie Pie, the Real, Original Pinkie Pie. That just means Twilight's Action would have been a mistake, justified of her being Banished from Equestria or not. Even if there was no way to get The Real Pinkie Pie Back, due to her being "killed", let's assume the following: Perhaps she was killed, or maybe she was actually sent back into the Mirror Pool with The Other Clones! The only other way out would be for The Clone of Pinkie Pie going in to rescue her, and we all know that's not happening, since Clones have the capability to Think, Plan, Plan Ahead, and Make Distractions.

This can mean one of two things: The Real Pinkie actually DID get distracted, and went back to The Mirror Pool and got trapped, or possibly even killed in this regard. Or, perhaps, the Real Pinkie Pie valued her friendship and didn't want make the mistake of valuing her friendship too little, as a Friendship Test.

What we do know is that it was one of the two possibilities: If it truly were the clone who survived, even Sine could be making the whole story up as well! Perhaps HE'S the one who set it up after being cloned, and went on to immediately plan ahead and trap or even kill Pinkie Pie in there in the first place!!! Making the whole episode before the Episode happened between the Previous and Current Episode an Accident, or even Look Like one, making SINE the Culprit of Framed Murder: The Clones KNEW they were trapped in there until someone arrived so they could crawl out on their own...! It was the Original by being there which allowed them to crawl out in the first place! Who's to say whether or not they can crawl out on their own without the original being there in the first place at all? It could all have been a slip of the tongue by whoever mentioned it, as seen previously in the Mirror Pool episode! That Hole BLOWS WIDE OPEN his whole theory apart!!!

Whether or not the whole episode were actually an accident or not, the point is, planned murder or not, it could have been a mistake that stemmed from a slip of the tongue, or an accidental murder that Twilight had to live with, or that she trapped her in the mirror pool by honest mistake.

My point being, friends don't always make mistakes on accident. Maybe that was from the clone, but it proves an interesting argument as well. Clone against Clone, argument or not, it proves one thing beyond a doubt:

THE REAL PINKIE PIE IS STILL ALIVE!!!

The real Pinkie is alive and well. The spell exploded the clones, and then there watery essence went back to the magic it came from. If Twilight had hit the real Pinkie with that spell, it would have been rather bloody with solid parts of Pinkie guts floating in the mess.

4:30 Actually, we know that Pinkie Pie have a whole basement dedicated to make parties for her friends, and there were at least the date of anniversary of each of them, so why not more details about the parties themselves, or even a diary ?
Knowledge can hardly be used as a proof, especially in Pinkie Pie's case as any abnormal behevior from her would be passed off as "Just Pinkie being her usual self".

It's a cute theory, and one that could have brought Tyrant Sparkle down, if it had been known before she ascended to the throne and became an absolute monarch, but until Sine can prove that a clone got Pinkie's memories there remains an element of reasonable doubt, so the case remains unproven. QE has not achieved D.

First off. All it "proves" is that at least one clone might... MIGHT have survived. For all we know the memories of the clones transferred to PinkiePie like the shadow-clones in Naruto transfer their memories to the original. As such, Pinkie, who does get confused sometimes, would remember hundreds if not thousands of "going into the water and coming out of it" memories... but only a few "pulled another out of the water" memories. It might get confusing.

Also, Twilight's spell sent the... energy? (it's unclear) back to the pool. There is no reason or evidence it could have done this to somepony that was never created by the pool in the first place.

And then there's the chance that Pinkie tries to deliberately sabotage other's efforts to create another clone mess and thus lied without even realizing that it was what the clones experienced.

A question comes to mind... how do we know that all of the clones got rounded up. It's not like this thing hasn't happened before and they overlooked a few... AKA, Swarm of the Century. Wherein they successfully moved the Parasprites out of Ponyville, but unbeknownst to them Fluttershy kept a few, rendering their efforts moot.

I sometimes like to believe that the whole watching-paint-dry thing was to punish Pinkie with an otherwise unnecessary staring-contest.

The simplest answer, IMO, is also the most likely.

Starlight talked to a clone, not realizing that it was a clone, got the misinformation from her, then passed the information on to Sunburst.

It’s also possible that the original Pinkie was seen in the episode where Rarity opened a boutique in Manehatten. With so many clones, she may have gotten overwhelmed and left Ponyville to start a new life there- just a thought I had while watching this.

Not taking in account that the spell was meant to dissolve only clones? And this was more twilight testing pinkie.

I really highly doubt unicorns can learn a kill spell that easily.

Literally whenever when Sawtooth Wave posts videos for us they makes everyone's day or night even better!

Actually when I first saw that episode with the pinkie pie incident I was like wondering the question to find if it was the real pinkie pie now I’m just like terrified even more than I was before when I saw the episode

What if during the Pinkie apocalypse, one of the clones told Twilight how she came to be and when the real Pinkie Pie was found Pinkie wasn't asked the question on how the mirror pool worked so she couldn't correct it. But I think if Twilight did accidentally kill Pinkie Pie, I think the reaction to the spell would've been different. Maybe blood would appear.

Point of clarification: Nobody died. Twilight didn't "kill" any of the clones. They were sent back to the pool to return from whence they came. At worst the original Pinkie just traded places with a clone. Although to be fair, the spell that sent them back to the pool looks like it was excruciatingly painful. So it was cruel, but not "murder" cruel.

Kind of reminds me of the time Riker from Star Trek New Generation killed their clones despite the fact they are obviously sentient beings. Lol. Then they want to go on about android rights in later episodes. The Federation was not as rosy as people believe and condoned murder if it suited their needs.

There's definitely a good possibility. Remember the clone we saw later, hiding for fear of being killed? Either a clone escaped, or that was the real Pinkie, run away for fear of being accused to be one.

Sure, most of the clones just cloned one small part of her personality in Too Many Pinkie Pies, but that doesn't mean other personality traits couldn't be cloned, and that depressed Pinkie was also a clone with an existential crisis. And if I was the real Pinkie, and I saw the test Twilight set up for me, I wouldn't be that confident to pass it, even as the real one.

And clones definitely can develop a more complex personality, given that clone we see later definitely not acting like the Pinkie clones at the start.

Wait... the one other MAJOR difference if the Tree of Harmony KNEW that the original Pinkie Pie has been accidentally killed by Twilight, wouldn't the Tree of Harmony later on could have known OR not known that the wandering clone has no magical ties with the actual Tree? Or could the Tree of Harmony couldn't tell the difference of the original pony.

Although throughout the episode, we all see how the 'original Pinkie Pie' is far more different, being lost in a crowd of clones of the original, looking sad, lonely, or the desperation, despite of almost closing to the episode, the clones that were sent back to the mirror pool is also reflecting the magic back to the original Pinkie Pie that casted the enchanted words. No pony didn't actually see the magic RETURNING back to the original Pinkie Pie?

Kind of hurting my head since it's pretty confusing, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about and I would like to hear your thoughts.

i don't remember much about the details, but it's not unlikely the documented cases of the mirror pool were from the account of clones, so when researching the pool it could be very easy to get that detail wrong, i don't think Pinky died, i do think the test was horribly cruel and ablest though

2:44 underrated pun

Also to be fair, Starlight's knowledge of the mirror pool was probably from Twilight, which she told to Sunburst who just repeated it back to her. So his account was like, a third-hand account

To the people saying "well the clones only cared about fun and our Pinkie cares about more than that": people can grow and change, and it's possible a clone could gain a more rounded personality over time. The clones in the episode REALLY weren't around all that long (only a couple hours, if I remember correctly). Even just a few weeks out in the world could help build a clone's personality, worldviews, relationships, sense of self, etc. Especially since her survival probably hinges on not obviously being a clone, it's not a stretch to think that a longer-lived clone is not just fun-obsessed and could have a more developed personality.
I don't even necessarily think that the "main" Pinkie in the rest of the show is a clone, but that argument is not a super strong one.

(I said this in a reply already, but I think it's possible that there are TWO accounts of the events at the mirror-pool floating around out there. There is at least one remaining Pinkie clone. Even if she's trying to keep a low profile, it's possible she is still recognized from time to time. If someone asked the clone about the mirror pool incident, she might give the "diving into the pool" story. Sunburst just happened to hear that version rather than the original Pinkie's version.)

Honestly, your accent game IS ON POINT!
I like what you are doing with this...
It is exactly the kind of nonsensical nonsense that makes me chuckle c:

I can probably debunk (or at least… expand?) this entire theory with one scene in season 6, episode 9. So the question is once again: "which Pinkie did he ask that question to?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDdDxZm6r2k

Also can you make a video if Sunny is a descendant of Twilight.
Since she gave up all her magic, she MUST'VE become an earth pony, and therefore, going down to Sunny, and the family have been passing down the story from generation to generation, since they know that Twilight's reign was real, based on the bloodline. Do you mind making this one of your explanations.
Also Sunny's father looks a bit like Twilight... suspicious...

For the last part of the video, i think every pony some how was statues, or most of them. In G5 those magic crystals, I think the crystals ARE twilight.

If we consider that this is a string theory, a universe in which they can share infinite worlds with infinite Pinkie Pies, then each Pinkie would then be an Original from her own world. Therefore, when we see Pinkie1 step through the pool she crosses into a new world with a new Pinkie, Pinkie 2 who is the Original Pinkie of THAT world(world2). This is why I believe that we not only change perspectives of Pinkie1 to Pinkie2, but also change from world1 to world2. So every episode before this episode took place in a different dimension. Pinkie Rick and Morty'd the whole original dimension by stepping through the pool.

Also, thanks to Twilight, there are now a few dozen worlds without any Pinkie Pie...

Also, just want to point out that Pinkie is both older and way cooler than Rick or Morty. She probably inspired that whole show tbh.

I think this is a little far fetched because there has been more ponies then just pinkie that have cloned them selves before her, so there could just be a story/well-known fact that you get pulled out of the pool.
-P.S. no hate

But the Mirror Pool is another legend, so ways of finding the Mirror Pool and how it goes about would be changed over time, as legends typically are. So maybe in some versions Sunburst heard, the ponies wanting a clone jump through. Also, Sunburst never said anything about the rhyme, so again in some cases maybe there isn't an incantation to recite? But yeah I'm with Sawtooth on this.

I am sure the speculation is a thrilling and fun in deducing everything. However, canon she is alive and can use the spirit of harmony. Clones would be unable to that.

I like how your clones are British. It makes their voices stand out a bit more

It’s entirely possible that Pinkie didn’t tell anyone the story and they were just paraphrasing what they learned from the legend and applied it to Pinkie.

Also if the Pinkie is a clone, maybe that clone from the episode with Pacific Glow could also be the real Pinkie (when Pinkie grabbed the stack of pancakes and exposed the other Pinkie).

The video never explain the original Pinky's element of laughter, it was assigned for the original Pinkie pie it would not work on a clone because it wasn't assigned to the Clone.
So the question is if Pinkie Pie after the mirror pool incident is indeed a clone how can she use the element of laughter? The answer is it's not a clone it's the original Pinkie Pie.

Kind of funny how Sawtooth switches from thinking Twilight is good and thinking she is bad.

I don't think the writers would go that dark.

Here's the thing about it though is that when we were talking about clones versus the elements of harmony when Chrisyliss made the Copies of the main 6 they were technically evil versions of the 6 as clones but because they weren't originals they still didn't have the magic so idk but in my opinion the other clones wouldn't either regardless of if they were good or evil because they weren't the true pinky (again opinion)

Although what he said made little sense I still don't believe Twilight could make such a mistake

I think everyone, including writers of the episode with Sunburst and Starlight, just got confused by what the camera movements in the pool meant.

That is a interesting theory but I agree if she remembers her whole family and life. Well the clones needed direction and teaching I would say the original survived. Yes Twi went a little bit to far with such a severe test. Now thinking back I think the real Pinkie understood that this was exspeshily important so she could see her family again and be with her friends. Also don't forget from my investigation and poking around I think 2 clones got away. So who knows there could be other clones of Pinkie that left before Twi and her friends gathered them all up. We know one was at her interview for Raritys new store. The other one I'm still looking into with my Nightling contacts but I'm sure that the one in DJ Pon3s club in the same episode is another. Now in a world of magic like that I'm sure there are others hiding in plan sight. Just with different colors on them or with a little makeup anew cutey mark. Don't under estimate them Pinkie my seem out of reality but they can be super sneaky and clever. Agent Night Rain signing out. I think I have a tail.

I also thought about it, in any case it is very inhuman to kill these clones like this

In actuality, I don't believe that the element of laughter would have worked if it was a clone.

Here's another hypothesis: Sunburst and Starlight's scene occurs in the mirror pool dimension. Or, the scene is written by the show scenarists' clones. Or they just didn't think too much about it, SISO.

If your theory's solution was canon, this is my idea for what you would see. If they got distracted, someone would take them away into a private area and ask them if they were pulled out of the pool, like 'you' said. If it's a 'yes', they are eliminated. If it's a 'no', then everyone else is eliminated.

Yeah clones shouldn’t really have rights, let alone really be there own being(which its sad cuz they are people/ponies too;) but it can potentially cause a whole bunch of issues especially within identity theft and all.

Fun fact: SunBurst has the best memory in the show so it’s not likely of SunBurst to mess up a single detail

Here's another theory. Remember the Pinkie at table being bummed out about not knowing if she was the real Pinkie or not? THAT was the Pinkie that Rainbow brought in and survived. A clone wouldn't have an existential crisis like that. Because we've seen Pinkie sad before so it would make sense for the surviving Pinkie to be the real one. During Discord's second "attack," Pinkie took in a quick drink from the cotton candy/chocolate rain cloud before she rushed back to help Twilight and the others. If a clone had survived, she wouldn't have done that. Pinkie created the clones so she could be in multiple places at once. The clones wouldn't see the severity of the situation like the depressed/surviving Pinkie did. Thus... the surviving Pinkie is the real Pinkie. Also... Maude and the rest of the Pies know Pinkie inside and out. I think they would notice ANY change in her.

Or Sunburst just misinterpreted what was said.

The fact is that those clones weren't alive. They were magical constructs. Twilight couldn't have sent the original Pinkie to the pool because she was never of the pool to begin with. Also, Pinkie's clones were not identical clones. And I don't mean in appearance. The clones are basically how many fans interpret Pinkie to be. Sunshine, rainbows, and smiles. The real Pinkie Pie is more than that. She can feel more than just happy. And that's why the real Pinkie always was the most likely to succeed in that challenge. Pinkie may have ADHD. But she does know how to focus when it matters. The clones also have ADHD. But unlike Pinkie, they were just born yesterday. They never had the chance to learn how to focus when it mattered.

Although, here's an alternate interpretation. Your theory could both be right and wrong. Twilight didn't make a mistake and sent the original Pinkie to the Mirror Pool (and no, Twilight is not a murderer because the clones are magical constructs). However, Twilight couldn't have sent Pinkie back to what she was never part of. So instead of returning to the pool, she was just transported someplace else. Or at least not in the pool. And because Pinkie was having an existential crisis, she actually believed that she was a clone because of that, and just happened to be lucky enough to escape elimination. In Saddle Row Review, we see an escapee Pinkie clone. But what if that's the real Pinkie thinking she's a clone, while the clone thinks she's the real Pinkie?

But it's so annoying when people claim that Twilight is a murderer. The Pinkie clones were just magical constructs and nothing more.

I feel like the surviving pinkie is the real pinkie because the clones all they wanted to do is have fun and I don't think the writers didn't want to do that because it's a kid show

The thought itself that Twilight could kill a pony with no effort, when she was still just an unicorn! And nobody even cared or realised!

Pinkie had a special power inside her so it's pretty hard to damage or hurt her

I don't suppose this "invalidates" your theory on her getting Grogar's bell, using Discord's magic, and giving herself a bit of magic across time and space? Ok, not completely... Yes, a clone could inherit the magical properties of the original, but it would not be the phrase "Pinkie gave herself some chaos magic". The phrase would be "Pinkie gave her original self some chaos magic". So t e c h n i c a l l y it wasn't a self-fulfilling boot-strap paradox...

Twilight could have easily prevented the possibility of killing the real Pinkie, not with some convoluted plan involving having paint dry but by simply asking "Alright, any Pinkie who was born in the last 24 hours, rise your hoof."
Isn't Twilight a scientific genius? Maybe she was just too smart to think of something so simple?

6:49 - My God, Twilight would’ve just asked if one of each them if one of them pulled out of the pool..

Even if it is a cloned pinkie pie, how would the element of harmony laughter work on her. When Chrysalis tried to do the same thing it didn't work out, if it were a cloned pinkie then the results shouldn't bee so different

"let's not go on a tangent here" OH MY GOD YOU GENIUS HORSE THEORIST, BEST MATH JOKE I'VE EVER HEARD

Me thinking I’ve got something: ” Technically if this theory was correct it would debunk the “Pinkie temporarily absorbed Discord’s magic and it spread all through her life” theory, because the clone isn’t Pinkie, therefore they would live a different life. You get what I’m putting down? That Pinkie would not have the chaos magic spread through their timeline, therefore they wouldn’t do all of their p- “

Ah wait this doesn’t make sense the Pinkie clones did gravity defying stuff at Rainbow’s lake thing so that means that both theory’s could just be true separate of each other. Pretend this never existed, I just didn’t want my theorizing to go to waste, so here.

Sawtooth’s clone: pinkie pie has been unknowingly dead for years
Sawtooth: this should be good

I just watched the episode and i dont think twilight killed pinkie. If you remember, when the clones came out of the pool, ALL of them kept chanting “fun! Fun! Fun!” meaning the thing they cared about most was fun. The test was the only true way too see who the real pinkie was because only pinkie would sit down and do anything for her friends because thats what she truly cared about the most. Plus, if she was killed, then how did she know who princess celestia is and to write her a letter about the lesson she learned? Pinkie never taught the clones about any of that. They wouldn’t know what the lesson was because they didn’t go through the first part. Also, in later episodes, they use the elements of harmony, and only pinkie pie can use the element of laughter so there’s no way it can be a clone. Also, the clones had VERY low iqs, although pinkie doesnt have the highest iq, she was much more developed mentally and thats very clear. The way the clones acted showed that. One last piece of evidence is that the clone has no history with the girls, so she wouldn’t know anything. But in the episodes after this, pinkie knows and remembers her history with the girls so there’s no way its a clone.

Well we see the essence of the clones returned to the mirror pool when zapped, would that have happened to the real pinkie?

You DO realize that even without this theory, the mass Pinkie-cide is the reason hearing "Fun?" with that accent sets off my PTSD?

When I saw the title I literally pressed it faster then how fast pinky could’ve gotten distracted when twilight was killing the “clones”

I think it was just sawtooth and sine's plan to insult twilight😂😂😂... what they said on 6:40 😂😂😂

I think Pinkie is still the original, AND Sunburst got the info from a clone, because we have seen the clone that he talked to as well, it is the clone seen in the episode (that I can't remember the name of) where the mane six are interviewed for how the opening of Rarity's new boutique went.

Theory time

The original Pinkie was the Pinkie in use as of episode 1 till the great clone massacre. Then we had the first Pinkie clone who was prominently on screen until Starlight fucked around with time travel at the end of season 5. After that point we have no reason to assume that Twilight didn't go back to another alternate timeline meaning that we are now on Pinkie number 3. From Twilights perspective only one Pinkie but in reality that's 3 different consciousnesses who all ended up as Twilights friend.

If Twilight killed the real Pinkie Pie and they were living with a clone the whole time then i'm surprised the clone never did anything to accidentally give itself away, by that i mean do or say something that the real Pinkie Pie wouldn't normally do.

The only way I could see this being true is pinkie going from slightly insensitive party pony with ADHD to crazy, almost psycho pony in the newer versions of her. Really after that point pinkie had transitioned into more of crazy instead of hyper. It was actually around that time period where the switch started. But she did have pinkies memories and the love she had forv then was very real saying why she couldn’t give in to her ADHD and look away from the paint. It wasn’t death or going away she feared it was losing her friends

My head cannon since that episode, Pinkie lives in the lake sending out her shadow clone copies to do everything and she gains their experiences. She could leave the lake anytime, but why give up that awesome ability. The lake is just a broken power, it's not really given limits.
How do we know if our Pinky in the show is actually the original? If she entered years before that could totally explain her toon powers.🤔
What If... Pinky has always been using a magical construct for as long as everyone has known her. 😳

Its clearly the original, we know the original went into a state of depression or something comparable, the same one who managed to last the longest, on top of that, the memory point just debunks this outright. The assumption the clones would inherit the memories is just head canon, nothing concrete to go off other than the conclusion.

Personally I don't believe the pinkie we follow after the episode Too Many Pinkie Pies, is a clone. Firstly while adults do enjoy the show, it is still considered a kids show. So very important continuity is crucial to keep track of. So Sunburst's line could be a slip up they didn't keep track of because it was basically a one off scene with him and Starlight. (Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't seen season 3 in forever) Secondly, as far as I am aware Pinkie told the clones the names of her immediate friends and not Celestia. At the end of Too Many Pinkies, The last pinkie left writes a friendship letter to the Princess. Unless she told the clones about writing friendship letters, theres no way for the clones to just know this unless they were told that was a regular thing that needed to be done. Don't recall seeing her tell the clones about Celestia or the letters they write to her. Third, the second pinkie cameo in Saddle Row Review could be the 'real' Pinkie hiding trying to avoid getting taken out by Twilight or it could be another clone trying to hide from the real Pinkie and her friends because she doesn't want to meet the same fate as the other clone Pinkies. Fourth, in the episode Fame and Misfortune during the song Flawless and the episode Pinkie gets hounded for being the jokester pony of the friend group. Yea she can get distracted and chaotic at the worst of times but, when things need to/or get really serious she also gets Really serious when push comes to shove. In the song flawless she sings about how shes more than just laughs and jokes. It's fun to think about but, I honestly don't believe what we see is clone Pinkie.

I always considered the episode "To Many Pinkie Pies" to be the darkest of the entire series. The crazy thing is, it was unintentionally that (I really hope it was). The entire "execution" of clones was deeply unsettling and your theory now is actually very on point deepening the darkness of it, I will need to check those episodes again.

This episode is like something out the The King in Yellow play.

I believe Sunburst just got it wrong and Starlight either didn't know he was wrong or didn't catch it. We see very strong evidence in Too Many Pinkie Pies that the surviving one is the real Pinkie. Plus, the elements of harmony most likely wouldn't work if Pinkie was a clone, just as they knew Chrysalis's copies weren't real in The Mean 6. So our Pinkie Pie is the real Pinkie Pie.

Sounds more like a fanfiction than a fact based theory. I think the Pinkie that lived was the original Pinkie.

if the real pinkie is gone, the elements of harmony would have stopped working. i think the writers just forgot how the artists illustrated the portal and did it wrong

Whether it is true or not it is still very dark for a children show to have the main character kills so many people, ah ponies
It is darker than those anime that tries to be dark with knifes and kills

You could've just made a normal series of theories based on the clones but no, you just had to add lore to the sawtooth waves universe





I applaud

Well, IF that is true, wouldn't the element of laughter not react to Clone Pinkie? I would think they of all things can tell the difference. Not exactly an option now but at the time it would have probably worked. I also recall pinkie becoming highly depressed at one point while the others seemed not to care.

As for the paint drying test itself, Yeah im not sure that was Twilights brightest moment plus Pinkie being Pinkie if she was a clone done you think she would have randomly mentioned it? If their is one CONSTENT about the embodiment of randomness, its she is CONSISTENTLY random.

All though your theory may be correct, How can you explain her turning into a princess later on in the story. If i'm correct, im pretty sure you need to be truthful in your work. And she also became an alicorn, There is no way she killed the real pinkie. She is the princess of friendship. FRIENDSHIP I SAY. You are guilty of accusation for twilight.

I used to wonder if Twilight got the ACTUAL pinkie before. Like, how are we 100% sure that that’s the real Pinkie Pie?! If even “Pinkie” wasn’t sure she was the real one

I always thought that twilight probably killed the real pinkie with that many clones it could've easily happened factor in the other details and it's pretty high odds that she's gone #(CLM)(clone lives matter)👌😂 pretty Great video.

You had me convinced at first but then I realized you missed an important detail. I think that the pinkie that survived WAS the real pinkie because right before the test started if you pay close attention Rainbow Dash had found one more Pinkie and dropped her near the BACK of the room and the Pinkie who survived was in EXACTLY the same spot. This detail is easy to miss seeing as I didn't notice it until the third time I watched it. But this was still an awesome video though.

I looked at the Sean carefully and saw that the magic left that pinkie and went into the spastic pinkey pie after exploding by twilight and maby its not just her memories but her magic with the memories that explains the pink magic flying to that pinkie and I also saw that the same pink magic was in the episode where some ponies got the magic back

My plausible theory is that the original pinkie pie escaped the mayhem of pinkies after she realized they were wrangling them up and was the same background pinkie pie in Rarity for You!

Finally someone made this!! This was stuck the whole time in my head roam free!

Come to think of it, I’ve been wondering why I haven’t seen Pinkie be using her Pinkie Senses in the more recent seasons . . .

I think that kinda explains why pinkie forgot or didnt know what was her purpose in life (the episode where cheese sandwhich gets depressed)

Besides Sawtooth, Twilight actually already did kill, unless you think that having his flesh stripped from his bones on screen didn't kill Sombra. XD

Do you remember that she has a hidden party room full of information of how many parties she done and will do.

I used to know you when you were called the brony notion, years ago, I found you through the Apple bottom jeans encanto video, and I lost it, you were one of my favourite content creators as a kid
Thank you for creating content :))

Knowing that the cloned pinkies didn’t know any of the main 6’s names, they obviously didn’t have real Pinkies memories so it would be quite obvious that the clone pinkie wasn’t the real pinkie for the real pinkie knows a lot, including every bodies birthdays and she plans them. Clone pinkie would not be able to do that. Real pinkie had her memory.

i remember reading a really good fanfic with this exact premise
edit: for those asking, the fic is I Am Not The Actor on fimfiction!

I don’t think Twilight killed Pinkie. The clones seem to represent one part of the pony who cast the spell, for Pinkie it was how much she likes to have fun, but it doesn’t seem like they have all of Pinkie’s characteristics. For example during the scene when Pinkie is basically having an identity crisis, she’s understandably sad and scared. However she’s the only one we see like that, the others are yelling FUN FUN FUN all of the time. When Pinkie recognized she might be blasted away during the test, she knew she had to stay focused even though it was hard. To me there just isn’t enough evidence to prove that Pinkie was blasted away.

The thing is that sunburst was asking a type of question and starlight was never scene asking pinkie about it, and even if pinkie said that what’s to know if was the true pinkie it could have been one of the surviving clones like the one from Maine hatten to me there’s not enough evidence for this, and another theory is that maybe all the pinkie clones that were killed could have merged with the same pinkie becoming one entity.

what if that line "so pinkie pie just dove in." was really The clone versions of the prime versions Looking into the pool? I mean we are looking at reflections after all.

Not related but the CMC has two talents represented in one cutie mark.

Eh, I'm still far from convinced. The idea that memories transfer to the last existing copy seems like a stretch to me and has no evidence anywhere to back it up. If memories can be copied/transferred as part of the pool's magic, why weren't the clones created with them to begin with? Pinkie's personality was passed on to the clones, so clearly the pool isn't limited to just the physical body. And what if the original were destroyed while there were still several surviving clones? What if multiple clones survive the massacre and they never get down to a single last one standing? What happens to the memories then?

And even if the memories did transfer to the last one we saw and it was a clone, I find it hard to believe that she would be able to instantly replicate everything about the original Pinkie flawlessly, including her motivations and devotion to her friends. The clones were holding on because they didn't want to die, sure, but only the original was doing it because staying with her friends was the most important thing to her, which the surviving Pinkie explains immediately afterwards.

We know from "The Saddle Row Review" that at least one Pinkie clone did survive. It's entirely possible that she's the one who shared the story about entering the pool. Even if she hasn't been deliberately spreading her secret around, she might have told it to one pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony ... Until at some point word of mouth reached Sunburst, who thought it was about the original Pinkie. Starlight almost certainly wouldn't have known any better, or she just thought "Close enough," and didn't feel the need to correct him on the details.

Or maybe the clone even told Sunburst the story directly and he didn't realize he wasn't talking to OG Pinkie.

Or he could have known the legend of the Mirror Pool and that Pinkie cloned herself with it and then filled some details himself, mistakenly assuming that you have to go into the pool to use it.

I say the original Pinkie Pie is still around but watching from behind the scenes. The reason I believe this is because during the episode, The Saddle Row Review, showing everyone's interviews with the newspaper pony in the diner for Rarity's Manehatten boutique, a second Pinkie Pie is seen smiling at you in the booth behind the Pinkie Pie doing the interview. So, perhaps the original never actually went in to Twilight's "test".

It's unlikely that the Element of Laughter would work for an imitation.

it’s kinda hard to charge someone from murder if the victim is still alive

I don't think Twilight really killed any of the clones. She just killed their Pinkie Pie body. Take a look at the clip, there body bursts but a pink essence returns back to the pool. My theory is, that those essences take the form of whoever is at the pool. If somebody cast the reverse spell, they return back to the pool. Besides, would there REALLY be killing in a girl's show about candy colored ponies?

This theory was so much fun to watch. One if my favorites yet. As what I think about it, there's another possibility: we know for a fact (from the episode of Rarity's boutique in Manehattan) that other Pinkie's clones survived. So, it's not in out of the real of possibility that Sunburst spoke with a Pinkie clone, while the original was simply elsewhere.

Except if you all remember correctly, twilight actually said after it, it wouldn't have worked on the original anyway

4:20 well as i remember i saw that when all the “clones” were killed and their- memories? Went back to the cloning pool.
And if the clone was the one who survived the wavy line air thing went to the clone and so if those things are memories and the original pinkie died and the vlone survived all of those memories went to the clone! And thats how they remember the memories of the old pinkie had.

Hold up, if a clone of Pinkie survived, how would she use the elements of harmony if when Crystalis made a clone of Pinkie, she perished when trying to use the elements? Wouldn't the tree of Harmony be able to tell that is wasn't Pinkie?

I personally don’t think twilight killed the real pinkie, but yes..Your point still stands in a way

Pinkie does represent the element of “Laughter” and her clones have a personality mixed by pinkie and discord, yet discord would be distracted easily so if in an alternate universe where it was discord instead of pinkie, Your point would’ve easily been correct. It looks like her clones don’t follow the true spirit of pinkie, and she does represent something that involves friendship.
Key word is “fun”, If these clones are so interested in “fun” then of course, they won’t wanna watch paint falling.. Yetttt, Neither would pinkie. In
“To where and back again”, somewhat starting shows pinkie as a changeling. If starlight wasn’t her friend, the changelings would’ve understood her personality quite well..I’m not saying pinkie isn’t interested by friendship, but she was also very interested in the choco rain clouds when discord was evil, While Celestia OBVIOUSLY made it super obvious that they needed to save Equestria, Pinkie just didn’t care, Did she? It’s the typical pinkie tho, but in other episodes.. Pinkie is willing to do everything for her friends, even if it makes her sad.
So as I previously said, her clones act like discord. Which means, they cannot fully be trusted. Because they are CLONES, discord has tried to betray the main 6 pretty much a lot, Pinkie is still connected to the clones in a way, Yet if you think about it.. If the clones personality is exactly like discord AND the changelings, do you think they could be the changelings themselves? Ofc, they would want to protect their hive…But what if there was no hive at that time, and what if queen chrysalis didn’t exist that time? If Twilight killed the real pinkie, changelings would’ve still been feeding off of love.
Do you think thay could be apart of a backstory for them? They didn’t have queen chrysalis, but as they wanted to stay and didn’t wanna get defeated they wanted to feed off of love, then bla bla bla you know what happens next! But in this episode could the clones be connected to the changelings in a way, or be them? If not any, what if discord spawned them? Okay, I get it I’m getting a bit off track.. But still I think my point stands.

I think the real Pinkie, in her depressin, moved away. Perhaps to the rock farm, perhaps not. One of the clones survived and became the "new pinkie", but as we saw, all clones were not gone. I think maybe the real Pinkie and the clone met up, and decide to "take turns" living as pinkie. That would also mean pinkie told everything to the clone, and thats why both have memories.

If Twilight had killed the original pinkie, the moment she did every clone would've disappeared. If we are thinking about it as kinda like a device, she basically copied and pasted herself resulting in the clones unknowingly relying on her existence for theirs.

maybe the clone is the symbolically represented Pinkie’s love for her friends thats why the clone can wield the element of joy. Since Pinkie pie always have files of her friends and memories. The clone also studied them.

This episode was just one long strawman argument between two strawman arguing over who was the real strawman

you know what? you didn't actually think this through did you clone sawtooth thingy lol look pinkie maybe disctracted easily but we know her enough to know that she could do anything for her true friends <3

Or, or, OR ! Remember that one Pinkie "clone" from Rarity's boutique grand opening ?
Maybe the OG Pinkie Pie couldn't take what she had done to Ponyville and fled all together ! Then, yes : the Pinkie we follow for the rest of the series is a clone, but the real one lives on !

I have a question, how the hell does the sun rise and set in g5? I also wonder where were the other species while the pony’s split?

So I just watched this and was thinking it over then decided to look back over the part where rainbow dash dropped the real pinky with the others. She was dropped in the pile on the back right, we don't get many clear views of the pinkys but you're still able to pin point where pinky is, with that I watched it to where there was the two final pinkys. There was one in the front left, but looking back, that's not where pinky was dropped. Leaving it to the pinky in the back which is very close to where it seemed pinky was dropped. In the end it was left to just the pinky in the back left. Meaning the pinky we see throughout the series after that episode, is indeed the true pinky

Still doesn't change the fact that Twilight massacred dozens of living, thinking people just because they weren't the original.

Likely that this MIRROR pool just pool other version of the same oerson from parrallel world, or, ever more likely, just partially creates such world itself, and then this spell from that book Twilight using is actually merging created parallel parts of reality into one... In fact, this question means almost nothing, because different scriptwriters are parallel versions of Equestria. Yes, we are trying to create a single whole world out of these parts, but some of them just contradict others, and some, like this one, double every other piece of the world connected with it into two versions, without actually answering which is correct - with Pinkie as a clone and Pinkie as the original. Besides already dividing everything in pieces question - does that second Pinkie, which is either clon or EG-version, exists in the universe under consideration at the moment of the question.

IDK if the real Pinkie survived the clone purge, but I'm fairly certain:
1) one clone at least escaped
2) this stupid anti-adhd test gives the same chances of survival to all the Pinkies, if not less to the original! After all, the last distraction came from Rainbow Dash! If you can't listen to your best friends, where are we going?! This test was shit!

Also no matter that, I agree we shouldn't say clones don't deserve as much to live as the originals.

I believe some alt time lining was goin on and the pinkie we have now is the real one. To complex for me to believe honestly. So I'm going with my simple belief in this case.

Anyone else think about how in the season 8 finale we have that scene where magic returned, and Pinkie Pie got magic returned to her, the magic possibly could have been from the mirror pool

Pony ghost/spirits still exist. What if we got the “Sherman & Mr Peabody” solution to this? Say… the real pinky was hit, but the original spirit made it back to the clone?!?!

But if it was two different “new” spirits, I doubt this would happen or be more complicated! She probably would have revisited the pond to give that extra spirit a body. Thus, explaining the pinkie lookalike in Mainhattin!!!

Good thing ponies still have ghost/spirits. It would be better than bloody murder… Bwa HaHaHa 🤪 😝 😈. (Wait, did that just come out of me?!)

P. S. Who & How should we be taking care of the other lost “pinkie ghost/spirits”? They need new lives or a living some how!

A long we’ll deserved healthy life to take with them before going to pony heaven, and a hopeful redemption from this cruelty & short life for a potential redemption from going to pony heck for attempting murder on clones. (sorry I laughed, pleas forgive me pony sisters, gulp! 🥶😰🥺)

Okay but, I'm totally not waiting for that time when sawtooth has too much clones because of his original clone lol

Anyways, great theory!

The original could be brought back through the resurrection of consciousness and physical being, however the process needs to be done properly... The process would need to be done at the mirror pool itself, but someone would have to get Pinkie out of the pool itself... And mend her magic and soul intertwined.

For me it doesn't make sense that the real Pinkie was killed, because when teh clones died, the inflated look didn't seem natural, it seemed as if the clones were, well, clones, not real. Unless Twilight used a "kill spell" who side effect was making the pony look like that before dying (which is both silly and terryfing), she probably just used a "Desintegrate clon" spell

However, if this was the case, then there would not be a point to make the consentration test in the first place...

Twilight had the power and balls to kill her bestfriends clones (Which are technically still living ponies) but she didn't have to balls to kill the three villains??? :0

The theory is ultimately debunked because Pinkie Pie came up with the test "Give them something not fun to do". The clones were made to have fun with the other mane 6. So Pinkie still survived because she was not the fun looking type. When Rainbow Dash brings her in she says " I found this one poking holes in the ground making frowny faces" So she was not one of the clones because she was not herself in the time of the test.

I've always thought that maybe the original pinkie pie was one of the pinkie pies that got sent back into the pool. Specifically, I remember one of them looking very sad and watching the paint dry, then another pinkie somehow shapeshifted their face and head to mimic the pinkie pie from mlp generations 1-3. Any pony, no matter how dire a situation may be, will be offput by somepony shapeshifting their head but not their body.

And, alas, the sad pinkie pie looked over confused, then got sent into the pool. I've always thought that was the real pinkie pie, but I never had enough evidence to support maybe the pinkie we know now is a clone.

But now I'm thinking, Sawtooths theory about the possible clone (the one with straight hair, eyelashes, and a different cutie mark in the club), alongside the idea that the timeline in season 5 onwards is different from the one we started off in, maybe in the timeline we know now, that pinkie clone is actually the real pinkie pie.

Tl;Dr: I think we know which pinkie exactly was the real pinkie, and in the post starlight reformation timeline the real pinkie wasn't sent into the pool but instead stalks the mane 6

There are also theories that some Pinkies survived the massacre. It could be because they left Ponyville as a clip I once saw in a video showed another Pinkie on the same train as the Mane 6

It is tragic that there will no longer be any Sawtooth,or should I say Notion clones with higher levels of Intelligence than the original,rest in peace

No he wasn’t right, he still never explained how Pinkie had memories of literally EVERY SINGLE PARTY SHE’S EVER THROWN, and every pie she’s baked for Rainbowdash. Even memories of her sister Maud Pie from when they were foals, AAAAAAAAAAND How she got her cutie mark.

I don't think pinkie was killed and here's why: Even if the amnesia theory was true, the memories would have needed much time to recover and all of this happened in the span of one day with not much time to recover those memories, at least it would be very unlikely. You also have to think about cinema logic. For the majority of the time the 3rd perspective stays on the real pinkie (or does it?). If twilight did kill pinkie and the memories were moved to the remaining pinkie, then essentially the clone would become the true pinky... no matter how warped that sounds.

this has been lingering in my mind for years now, good to see it being covered here

We all know at least one clone survived after.
Rarity opened up her new boutique....and that one is hiding.. that means knows she's a clone.... So there are two pinkie pies at least... And that clone doesn't seem to have any interest in the Rock farm family...

Hey what about that one episode where we see a Pinkie clown at the restaurant when Pinkie Pie is being interviewed? Good theory though.

If Pinkie's a clone, then who's to say that other characters may or may not be clones. Could the Starswirl the Bearded who was willing to be sealed away with other Equestrians into a magical book be the "original" Starswirl...or could the original have secretly stayed behind in order to continue protecting Equestria from other threats while a CLONE was sealed away instead? Food for thought!

Wait, there is a flaw. In the episode, They all wanted to stay. There is no way Pinkie pie would ever say that she was pulled out, Cause they all wanted to stay, if they asked them a simple question, they would say they were the real pinkie. You were right from the beginning, the original pinkie pie was saved. And survived. She was the only one who was sad, She was the only one who said she wasn’t the real pinkie pie. Something that makes them different from each other. Pinkie, would feel sad if she did something bad. Pinkie is the most emotional character, You may not notice this, but pinkie pie cares about even one person says something bad about her, she immediately has a sad expression. Which makes since. Even if the clone was the one who survived… She would never say yes, in the fear of being pulled into the pool. Even if there will be no more Pinkie. Twilight will send the clone of pinkie back into the pool. Of course, and what you said was right. Pinkie did survive the original one, Your clone actually was grasping at straws.

When I watched this MLP episode first time I thought that all this "watch the paint dry" test just didn't have any sense. Twy could spend a few more hours researching cloning spell and figure out better ways to recognise a clone (i.e. with researching Pinkie's clone lessons and testing every Pinkie about their past, for example), but Celestia's best student has chosen a literal genocide instead.
And the more I thik about this moment the creepier it becomes...

This channel is amazing! Every video leaves me shooketh

1:20 OK thank you for clearing that up because I have to be honest I got confused on my first viewing of this episode!

Now can you talk about how there's queens in changelings and probably other creatures but princesses in ponies?

I don’t think Twilight killed the real Pinkie Pie. In the scene where Pinkie Pie gave her clones a lesson on the Mane 6, she only gave them a lesson on the Mane 6. The clones don’t know who Mayor Mare or the Cakes are. So…

Sawtooth don't you ever wonder "if Flurry had such a big part to play in Equestria, the what happened to her?"

This makes sense so here's what happens at the test twilight would keep killing the clones while the clones learn to pay atetion to the paint drying

Dear Sawtooth waves

I have a theory I hope you make a video out of.

Where are all the other creatures? The dragons, the griffins, the changelings in the new mlp?

What if, WHAT IF

After the Mirror Pool episode, we ended up in the mirror universe and all ponies there would have been the 'clones', and this is how the writers leave open ended stories for the community to write. We don't know how the prime timeline went, we only saw the mirror

The end of this was hilarious as they hated on twilight

i don’t buy the temporary amnesia thing- i think maybe their memories would work closer to how foggy memories work in real life, as when you remember something you are just remembering the memory of it in your head, making it farther from the reality every time you rethink it. in this case i think the first clone would have the closest memories to the original pinkie and since the clones cloned themselves, their memories would be even blurrier every time they went though another set of cloning.

Let's not forget the party cave the clone could have found it and read everything. Not to mention the journal cause hell that thing could have been a gold mind if the clone found it before twilight did

"Would you rather me call them Square Waves? or Triangle Wav-"
2:35 that was hilarious

The real pinkie is the one we thought was a clone in the episode about the second store

Okay but what if the original Pinkie IS alive? What if she's the reporter Pinkie that we see at Restaurant Row? Because don't think that THAT little easter egg hasn't haunted me ever since the moment I saw it...

I really love how you made your own original storyline into your theory videos! Keep up the great work!!

No. I'm sorry, but you've lost me completely. What Prime said in the beginning made sense. But then this somehow turned into Twilight takedown hour.

I believe he's right. It's one question to ask, where you pulled out the pool. Yes the Twilight is deadso.

Pretty sure pinkie would still use the mirror pool, just not to the same extent as before. I also think she regularly goes tradesies with the human pinkie, and didn't want to tell twilight that she was messing with the mirror pool again during that one part of the first EG movie so just played it off in the same weird way she always does that only make sense because of how much she does it, which she only does because she has information she shouldn't due to messing with clones and alternate versions of herself. if she told twilight she was messing with the mirror pool again, twilight would've probably had a fit, which definitely wouldn't have helped with the stress twilight already had at that moment. i also think nobody would want to tell starlight exactly how to use the mirror pool to begin with, because if she had a small army of herself there's no doubt shed easily be able to obliterate literally all of Equestria and probably everything outside it too. Just how I think it is though.

wait a minute, if twilight killed the real pinkie and that was exposed that could be why the era of peace ended

think about it, if someone exposed the death of an earth pony at the hands of twilight, there would be a reaction, earth ponies could end up believing that alicorns are dangerous, and then as the info spreads, it would be twisted and changed until it's become lies, which causes the earth ponies to hate unicorns and pegasus creating the racism in gen 5 mlp

howdy Sawtooth,

I hope I will not disturbing you but I have a question about the G5. Until we got an explanation into the lore, I think I need a theorist like you. If there's not Magic in Equestria anymore... Why the New Mane still have cuties marks ?

Thank you !

Does anyone else remember a scene showing the real pinkie being trapped in the mirror pool or was that a fanmade thing I saw?

Well as you said in the video pinky easily get distracted but according to me main 6 can do anything for there friend and we have seen this in many episodes.

If only they knew that the clones dont retain memories of the original. They could've just given a test with questions about pinkies life

I don’t think Twilight would KILL the clones but just send them back.
By the way I have a question use it for a vid if you want, so here it goes: do the clones have there own universe if not how does the mirror pool bring them into existence? Other than the way we might think

The " Dive in " Scenario make me think that the clones are not clones but alternate versions of whoever uses the pool. Also if they were clones the law of conservation states " Matter cannot be created or destroyed." So Twilight would use that to dodge any Consequences.

Hey I noticed something in gen 5 So we know there's a ruined castle where the pegasis are but who's is it and what the flip happened to the mirror portal or the crystal empire and the crystal heart ? I'm also trying to cook up a theory on how magic is lost and who's castle it is

I thought in the episode they mentioned if the real Pinkie was poofed out of existence then ALL the clones would die too

Although, One of the Pinkie clones could have told other pony’s and that’s the story that went around..?

In Twi's defense, the pinkies never died. They went back to the mirror pool, to live as another life form until another soul came to clone themselves

This reminds me of that old Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode with the cloning hammock, where to get rid of all the tummy-button-less Homer Clones they flew helicopters holding onto giant doughnuts and lead them off a cliff.
That night in their room Marge is saying how nice it is to have one Homer back, and sees he doesn't have a tunny-button (aka he's a clone)
Marge asks where the real Homer is and the clone says 'First one to run off of cliff'

Honestly I don't think it goes that deep, I think they were just trying to make something pretty cool and like, a good ending and not kill one of the characters, you know. But like you're looking way too deep into those bro, it's not that complicated, she survived, everything's fine, but she just dedicated her life for her friends because the other clones don't know her friends and maybe they had ADHD, maybe they didn't. But no one really cares, it's just a kids show.

I really hope that our pinkie is real!

I can't stop laughing at the title XD That would be a big plot twist if Twilight Sparkle really did kill the real Pinkie Pie lol

Maybe thats why pinkie got the magic. In one of his videos 1year ago it said like when pinkie absorbed discords magic it affected her time line, but when cosy glow absorbed it nothing changed. The clones happened in the beginning of the sessions so if twilight killed the real pinkie so that means that clone absorbed discords magic that's probably why it affected her timeline and why she got the magic. (Sorry its long)

I think it's possible that everyone thinking it's a cloning pool is wrong. But rather it's a pool that connects to alternate universes using the multiple worlds interpretation. That would be the only way that the surviving Pinkie keeping all her memories make sense.

The clone concept I think should be taken as "The clone doesn't know it's a clone" a clone literally means another you, same backstory, genetic makeup, morals, everything! So this theory is very dark but possible. Just I don't believe in it because ALL the Pinkies except one didn't care about her friends

~Very important~
Maybe the memories of pinkie pie didn’t turn into the memories of the clone but rather the other way around some of the clone memories came back to Pinkie AND SHE KNEW that that would happen wenn her clones are sent back pinkie pie waned to expirant more then one thing at a time the reason why she created the clones in the first place

I think the real pinkie survived if she was a clone she would say fun all the time plus she would not have pinkie sense some people suggest she would try to bring back the real pinkie but no because clones did not know they were clones

But how would the Pinkie Clone be able to use the Element of Laughter?

I can’t believe I’m saying this but this makes the infamous Smile HD look believable!🤯🤬😰

I don't think the real pinkie is dead,besides if she was dead then how the hell did the clone maud? and her other sisters? could have sworn the clones needed to be taught names,and they weren't in that episode,so how do you explain other episodes? @_@ I love your theory videos though,keep it up dude

This is confusing, we need a redo of this with sawtooth doing the talking.🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

honestly this would explain something...
when pinkie touched the bewitching bell in one of the last episodes, she went insane, some people say that that moment altered her past and made her a creature of chaos. Am i the only one that thinks that pinkie´s behavior has been more chaotic since the clone moment? Maybe that explains it- maybe the pinkie clone was the one to go insane?

I always wondered if they got the real pinkie.

The clones returned to the pool when zapped. If Twilight killed the original Pinkie at any point, wouldn't she just act like a regular corpse?

I don't think so


Pinkie is known to be Unpredictable after all

So even in a Test of Focus the Original Pinkie would suprise us all

I actually watched the episode where Starlight was showing around Sunburst a few days ago!

We did see other pinkie pies in Friendship is Magic (The escapees) So it is entirely plausible one of them told the story to starlight and/or sunburst while the original still lives. Alternatively, if the clones are made of magic (Which they may be) Pinkie would've been destroyed during the magic stealing incidents, Furthermore she got magic back in season 8 after the orb of magic got blown up so this may link to herself being a clone. 

Edit: I want to propose something else, Twilight wanted to send all the clones back and was worried that she would zap the original pinkie pie and destroy her, but I ask you Could she? There are so many more possibilities on what may have (or have not) happened. What if its like a 2048 game where there are infinite universes with one pinkie pie, when the mirror pool is used once, infinite combinations make each of those universes have 2 pinkies, another use and it's four, that's why pinkie never steps into the pool. Different clones (or 2048 boxes) are merging into the original adding more and more pinkies from other universes however maybe the mirror pool strips each pinkie of their memories locking them in their own respective universes, therefore, if the spell was reversed the pinkies would've been set back to their own universes (back to the source) so if the original got zapped, she would just stay in her (the original) timeline. Yet another possibility is that the mirror pool simply generates the pinkies by mimicking the base form but they aren't formed with memories and with the same ending as the previous theory, if the spell is reversed, since pinkie wasn't made by the pool, she wouldn't be able to enter back into the source. 

Sorry its a lot, its just a lot to think about. :) Keep it up Sawtooth

If our Pinkie is a clone DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PINKIE IN THE RESTAURANT IS REAL ONE!?!?

IS NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THE NEW GENERATION OF PONIES ONLY HAS A CUTIE MARK ON ONE SIDE 😱

there's also the pinkie that survived anyways! the one who was a party pony above Rarity's manehattan store, who knows if she and our pinkie swap places still and that clone pinkie was the one who told the story while our real pinkie was off partying at DJ Pon-3's club?

LOL I knew this theory all along because when I saw pinkie pie when through the pool she went hyper and the other one was the opposite so she must be a clone but good theory

Aw man, we lost Sine & Co. Sine :(
Even tho you had your... Fights here and there, i really liked them both :)
Bring them back, Sawtooth, BRING THEM BACK

I think original pinkie ran and lived and in the one episode we see a second pinkie spying on the one we know so maybe original pinkie watch’s over the clone to make sure the clone keeps her friends happy

Sawtooth found a cockatrice when they said: “Is that a chicken?”

I know what they mean by this,

Lemme explain what he's saying

So, pinkie pie was killed by twilight. There was multiple clones created. Some of them were killed, and there is one left that we know today as pinkie.
I think this is what he's saying and..










TWILIGHT YOU'RE GUILTY

No she didn’t bc the harmony tree is still connected to her bc last time when the queen of changeling failed to use the tree of harmony magic, by making twilight and them

We know at least one clone lived.... In the episode where Rarity got her new shop

I mean the clone do got the point
My brains hurt when he explained it btw

Actually she didn’t kill them, she just transformed them into souls and made them go back into their worlds. Lol

Or... Sunburst didn't hear it from Pinkie Pie, but rather heard it from multiple ponies removed. And Starlight heard it from perhaps exactly one less remove, if Sunburst was asking for confirmation about the story as Starlight had told it to him.

My bet would be that Twilight told the story to Starlight, and Twilight didn't know how it worked, knew that the clones came out, and, knowing Pinkie, assumed Pinkie just dove in. The assumption wasn't a conscious one, so she never examined it and just - again - assumed it was the truth.

Plot twist: the clones took twilight down and somehow the princess of friendship being gone influenced how divided equestria was in gen5

I mean ... "Would pinkie know all that stuff?" we only need to look the season 5 episode 11 "Party Pooped" and we can easily explain how any clone could get "their memories back"

Pinkie pie has filed every pony in ponyville and probably has also all information about her parents, friends, vamily, close relavite, cousin and her coursins and her coursins and every member of apple jack's family........

And knowing it is in pinkie pies nature to help those who need help and want to see them smile Pinkie probably would have told them about the place and they might just have found it. It would not take long for this super hyper ADHD pony to skim trough all the papers and study them to the memory with the Hyper Focus to have all the memories.

And it would not be surprising if pinkie pie also had upkeeps on all parties and happenings around the equestria about everyone where she could read and experience the parties after the fact. Like, coming home after party and writing it down and rating them for good or bad and how to improve so NEXT time you can throw even better party and the iteration of failures is part of growing and writing them down and making list of "dislikes" and where it was discovered ...

I would not place that out of reach for Pinkie to make all that work which any clone could just read and live the life? And it is not that far fetched as we ado have the season 5 episode 11 "Party Pooped" where they enter the Slide down to see the filing work she has done....

Opinions?

simply said no even if twilight killed the original and the clone retained all of the memories of the original, the ability to use the element, and the ability to age. Since there are no other pinkies anymore it is now the original it cannot be called a clone.

That's assuming the spell didn't just put the Clones back into the pool perhaps the Pinkie Pie's that got zapped are just stuck in the pool and we all must remember there are leftover Pinkie Pie clones perhaps one of those leftover clones are the original Pinkie Pie assuming that we are stuck with a clone of Pinkie Pie

Aye i was just here for the retrospective i didnt expect to get thrown into a second layer of sawtooth lore

0:48 That is an interesting detail to point out and not one I've really heard before, I believe. However, I don't take too much stock in this. It's been shown time and time again that episode writers didn't always do their research on previous episodes to understand how something worked or happened. I feel that brief conversation between Sunburst and Starlight is a result of exactly this.

It was the original Pinkie Pie that survived because while we may not have the information for how the mirror ponds magic works I doubt that if a Pinkie Pie clone survived and the original Pinkie Pie was killed the element of laughter would ever be able to be used again and thus Discord would not have come back in the tail end of the next season rather he would have stayed a statue until a thousand years after season 2

Pinkie Pie is full of mystery, and always will be.

I don't think the real pinkie was killed because the clones don't have memories but there is a pinkie clone running around manehatten I guess she could have told sunburst about the mirror pond. I doubt it though I think sunburst just misspoke.

Twilight is only cast the dispel magic. So, if the real Pinkie is strucked it just make real her feel hurts instead of being banished to mirror pool.

2:26
"and you're both Britsh" - Sawtooth waves 2021 lmao

Good video if your running out of ideas I got one that was on my mind for days, so we know Celestia and Luna rose the sun and moon, then Twilight rose the sun and moon, but who or what is raising the sun and moon in modern times before Sunny became an alicorn???

Have you ever realized that Sunny’s wings are the same as Sunset’s?

then again why can there be both?
I know it was a joke but wasn't there another survivor of the clone massacre?
Maybe that one is the real pinky while the clone is now in the original's place?

Its just a random idea.
Hardly any evidence.

This is my theory, if you watched the end of the episode, rainbow dash says “someponies selling balloon ponies!” Maybe she hated real pinkie so real pinkie would die. in the episode where we first see gilda, rainbow stays with gilda for half of the episode or maybe in the pie episode pinkie thought rainbow dash hated her pies, and in reality, she did hate her pies. This theory isnt the best, but i hope you agree.

Sawtooth Waves talking with Signs Holmes and Co-Signs Watson was an amazing experience.

Gotta love a sawtooth waves video! except this made my brain hurt 😂😂

To be fair tho, I don't think if the real Pinkie Pie got hit with unicorn magic, that she would just blow up like a balloon. It would have been far more gruesome if she got hit. We've seen what it looks like when a pony is hit by unicorn magic. They often get thrown back with some smoke coming off them as if burned. We've also seen the extent of Twilight's simple beam magic in her fight with Starlight. So either one of two options would have happened. 1. Pinkie gets a hole lazered into her and flops on the ground dead or 2. She gets knocked back 10-20 ft mildly burn (and those kind of attacks aren't usually fatal) so she would have survived that option.

Or this is what story wrriters remembered about Pinkie's clones and they have not done an extra check.

he was right and your "she had to teach the clones her friends names" is wrong she did not say "this is rarity now you guys" she only got a drawing and they had to say their names she was only triyng to see if they knew her friends names and they knew

all clones except those who were made last also made clones. So almost all of the clones knew how the lake works. And the youngest ones knew that they were clones because when they came out of the lake, they saw much bigger group of ponies than their own. And if a clone could remember everything that original Pinkie knew, the clone would also remember the right way of making clones (with no diving in the lake).
But what is important, that clones were something like simple reflections and couldn't reflect deep (not obvious, hidden) peronality. That's why the test helped Twilight to find the real Pinkie whose personality is much deeper than just having fun.
So, no conspiracy theories are needed here. "Dove in" might be metaphorical or just a little mistake.

And maybe she could be thorax's adviser because he could stand to learn a lot from her.

How come no one is talking about the episode with Rarity where the whole concept is the main 6 getting interviewed on her shop in Manehattan and during Pinkie's, one of her clones are sitting behind her? Like.... was that just no longer important or?-

I think the pool is more of a limbo that magical ponies stay in until released with magic.

honestly, I was always sus even as a little kid without any critical thinking skills

i love how you fully take advantage of being a changeling 😂 just like "my clone is british, and you can't accuse me of not making sense cause they're a changeling they can have whatever accent they want"

Not convinced
Really the real's determination let her survive

I don't think a hippogriff is so great without a griffin.

Sawtooth I feel like you should make an episode about like at the end of my little pony generation four there were all sorts of different creatures not just ponies like yaks and griffins Puts at the beginning of generation five they were just ponies

Another option is Sunburst and Starlight could have talked to a clone pinke that twilight missed(considering that there have been sightings) and mistaken her for the real Pinkie and goten the her side of the story instead of the real pinkie.

I think pinkie lied about how the cloning works so that nopony else would clone themselves.

I haven’t watched that much of your videos yet since it’s only a couple days since I’ve seen it I love how do you have a clone

"lets not go on a tangent here prime" got me rollin

Ummm, the real pinkie was still alive, have you not seen one of the episodes with a clone of Pinkie.

Okay but what about the tree of harmony? Wouldn't it notice that the real Pinkie is gone??

iv'e seen the dark comentery before basically a pinkie clone was dressed as twilight and she had help by some pony to cast the spell while the real pinkie is banging and trying to yell and crying in the mirror pool.

I have a question, in the movie where are all the non ponies? Also they could have got the information from one of the few surviving pinkie clones like the one in mane haton

The Pinkie cave have all the history a clone would need to know would help support this theory,

See when you started using the community tab to talk and meme about this episode, I knew it was only a matter of time before we got a theory on it. I'm so ready for this.

THEORY alert! Sawtooths 'clone' has an upside-down cutie mark! Clones are supposed to be EXACTLY the same as their host, sawtooths clone could not BE a clone, I believe that this was another changling trying to take advantage of sawtooth.., but what was his plan???

Another possible idea is that one pinkie didn’t go to watch the paint dry and the original actually survived and that pinkie we see in saddle row during pinkies interview is the clone that didn’t go to watch the paint wall dry

actually pinkie values friendship for than fun its kind of like with her sister and how she would do anything for her pinkie could focus

That is an interesting Theory however there are still a couple clones of Pinky pie around so for all we know a clone of Pinkie Pie did tell how she came to be and I original pinky is still alive and just didn't say how the Clones were born

I think the original won the test, because when it comes to her friends, she will do anything for them

How would the elements of harmony work if Pinkie was a clone?

He wasn’t right. Yes, Pinkie would get distracted, but she also is shown to be able to focus when things are serious. May get distracted during talk, but when it came to taking action? (Or non-action). She didn’t want to lose her friends or die.

I love the fact that this has frickin lore

If the new generation still use cones Sawtooth could make them come back if they want by saying that the statue was them

Hi didn't know what video to put this under so I'll just put it here. I figured this out from some of your videos and also from just knowledge. Twilight's cutie mark has the symbol of magic on it. It also has 5 smaller white stars around it symbolising her friends. So I think Twilight's destiny is the magic of friends. Then she becomes the Princess of friendship. In your videos you indicate this but you never say it. Twilight's cutie mark as a whole is always seen as magic but that isn't true. Even in the show they say here cutie mark is magic (boast busters I think). Just thought I should say my thoughts.

I’ll miss your clones! 😔I hope they come back

Cosign literally cracks me up 🤣
They are hilarious lol

That British acc is just 👌👌👌

Me: I don't get it
Me, the m o m e n t when I get where this theory is stemmed from: chills

Something else to add to sine waves theory is that the clones are FULLY SENTIENT

This entire theory hinges on one line from a non reliable source

i noticed something

so mlp

it's said that the main six got their cutie marks at the same time
but actually it wasn't at the same time but the same day (except pinkie pie)
rainbow got hers after the rainboom
twilight got it right after that after spike's egg hatched
apple jack said that the rainboom pointed her home but a train ride goes a few hours and she got hers as soon as she got to the barn
rarity got hers in the evening at a little costume dance thing
of course fluttershy's animals were scared right as the rainboom struck and only then when the animals all trusted her and hugged her she got her cutie mark
pinkie made a little party the day after the rainboom (it showed the sun set and the sunrise there, so in the morning)
the only true ponies who got their cutie marks at the same time were the cutie mark crucaders
and their cutie marks look rllllyy similar because of that

What about that clone of Pinkie we see during the episode where they all get interviewed about Rarity's new boutique opening? Could that have been the original that fled after suggesting the paint dry test? Or a stray clone?

Wouldn’t the elements of harmony stop working? And the clones had to learn the names of other ponies, Pinkie showed no struggle doing that. Sorry, but this is a flawed theory.

but if she did kill the real pinkie, wouldn't the other clones disappear too? it's vampire rules.

Sawtooth! I just found out a mistery about mlp generation 5!
You know how the three ponykinds went separte ways and showed hatred filled with lies about eachother...like in mlp generation 4...the fourth and rare ponykind was not in the fifth...THERE WAS NO ALICORNS! EVEN THE RULERS OF THE CITIES WERE THERE OWN PONY KINDS! I KNOW ITS SHOCKING NEWS! But one thoery tho...in mlp generation 4 the three ponykinds lived happily and together but in the 5th generation they went separate ways so the possibility for the three ponykinds to have theyre own rulers is possible and thats what happened in the movie but could there be chances that after they lived peacefully after theyre next ruler would be an alicorn? Idk this is just i theory about this strange thing with these two generations but ill leave all the thinking up to you ;)

0:13 I just realized that the music note in the beginning is upside-down because sign's cutie mark is an upside-down music note

1 minute ago...



My brain hurts after I watched this.







Why, just, Why.





I like your purple bow :D

A pinkie clone could’ve gotten memories when twilight in the ep where twilight became a princess when she gave the memory’s back

I just got an idea. I don't know if it's corect. So, there's G5 and we know about G3, right? Well, then what if the g4 wasn't trained well enough and that's how everything fell apart, until, maybe many moons later, G5 appeared and then the history repeats(new elements, new tree, new harmony etc). What do you think?

Rip Sign and Cosign you will forever be missed.

Well I really think that it is a clone because you can clearly see before the test that she is sad and when you pan back to the test one of the pinkies we're sad and a clone forced her to look at her hooves with it taking the real pinkie

Wait a minute no sawtooth is right other guy that looks like him not so much pinky did not die at the end she said I couldn’t I just couldn’t leave my friends that proves that’s the real pinky 😑😊🤣

I also have a theory how is the spirit of harmony created
The pillars didnt create them friendship did, Look how the spirit of harmony is still alive without the elements after all the spirit is connected to the tree the tree is connected to the elements and the elements is connected to the mane six and the mane six is connected to friendshipp(well their friendship connects each of them together), Something comes to my mind that i think friendship or the pillar didn't create the spirit , I think it just existed on itself as long as theres light or good the spirit will exist. I hope u notice this.......

Ok but Pinkie also knew of the lake, so maybe just Starbust saw a book on it and just stated it as he had read it?

The original copy was a lot closer to Pinkie than the copies of copies. I could see the original pinkie clone being all mopey because of what happened when the clones were unleashed. I could also see the actual pinkie running off, potentially in part due to pinkie sense(If she KNEW by pinkie sense that she was going to be sent into the pool, she might run). Personally I think what Twilight did was completely wrong, and there was also simply too much risk involved.

Aha, so Ultra Fast Pony was right! Sure in their version the original was a LOTR fan while the survivor was a minion of Darkness with no awareness of LOTR, making them easier to tell apart, plus they didn't much care whether they had the original or not because they're entertainingly horrible ponies, but still.

I love your videos sawtooth waves your theories are so interesting

The second pinkie in Manehattan could be the original hiding from a dangerous clone

In my fanfiction the first clone we see, changes her identity, gets a dragon girlfriend named after Rainbow Dash, and becomes a colossus in the colossus world while rainbow dish the dragon becomes a rainbow deity.

Pinkie's probably alive, given how she breaks the 4th wall so many times

Hi, I just want to say if this could be possible.. What if the Real Pinkie Pie escaped and survived, and was the one Which when the clone was talking about the Mirror pool in Saddle Row Review.. Maybe the real Pinkie was also the Neon pony in the dance club just trying to blend in and not go back to the mirror pool!! Well this MIGHT be an option, I don't know but just giving you another possibility.

Reminds me of that old video showing the real pinkie trapped in the pool with all the other clones except for the one that survived. I love dark stories

hol up, you see your kind of counteracting your own theory, if the clone had all the memories she would have also remembered pulling the clone out

wait... why are you represented withsome kind of zigzag/curved line? while your clones are too but their's is slightly different... IS THIS SOME LORE? ON YOUR CHANNEL?

and the pinky clone wouldn't know they were a clone, they all thought they were the real one so she wouldn't think anything of it.

"Lets not go on a tangent here, Prime" - Sine, next to Cosine

If you had noticed that scene where rainbow dash told twilight rainbow had found another pinkie drawing sad face with her hoof rainbow dropped the real pinkie in the hall full of clones in the same place we see pinkie after the test. When there was 2 pinkie left the further back pinkie is the real pinkie who won . This is my thought

Holy goodness
A simple choice of words has changed my thought process

if the real pinkie had survived, the clones wouldn't have died, maybe they went to her dimensions?

I think you were right in the beginning of the video that the current pinky we have is the real one

Good idea to make all new Gen 4 theories flashbacks. Also I liked the Sine takeover for Nightmare Night season!

Ngl I thought the twist of that Pinkie Pie episode was gonna be the first Pinkie to get distracted would’ve been deemed the true Pinkie Pie just because of how her nature is.

Twilight could not have killed the original pinkie because pinkie loves her friends so much, and the challenge was not to talk for the pinkies.. and pinkie would want to stay with her friends.. the real pinkie would not talk no matter what distracted her... the clones would
proof is here

I personally think it is the real Pinkie, and someone else, not a clone, but an outsider who perhaps snuck in, or had already heard the legend of the mirror pool, but didn’t actually know how it worked. If Pinkie does have ADHD, there is something you forgot. People with ADHD do get distracted easily, but there is also something called hyper focus, where they can be extremely focused on something that is interesting or important to them. For Pinkie, that may have been the paint, as it was important that she stayed with her friends. Please tell me if there’s anything I may have forgotten, or anything I got wrong or forgot to add about ADHD.

This is a very easy theory to make, and not an easy one to prove.

Pinkie brought it upon herself tbh

That's how the pool works. It may also be able to be used for time travel.

Sorry to say not putting you down bud but in all hind sight the real pinkie was upset for her mistake and stayed still and followed orders to show she was the real pinkie. Not only that she also felt guilty that she couldn't fill in for her friends since she was all only but one. Usually when she gets upset she doesn't make and chance of getting distracted. As you can tell by some of the videos that showed how sad she was. These clones were part of her from her goofy personality. The real pinkie may have that yes but, she has more to it than the clones. The clones were mainly ones who got distracted and was obliterated and taken out when the real pinkie which I have high positivity on is still alive. I wasn't saying this about your theory being wrong which I still somewhat agree but since I observed and payed more close attention on how she was through the seasons up to the real pinkie test she is still around. Just saying and throwing this out there.

A pretty complicated possibility is If a pony jumped in the mirror pool nothing would happen they would soon become a reflection and one of the reflection of the pony would come out, Time dose not do anything , The pinkie clones had to be taught to live that's why the two pinkies were fine living they had to disguise them self's to not get seen , They all had a laugh since that was pinkies most common felling.

Obsession. All the pinkie clones were Obsessed with fun, while the real Pinkie knew that this "Fun" was getting on peop-err, sorry, PONIES Nerves. And there are plenty of times after the incident where Pinkie stopped focusing on fun and started Focusing on what was ACTUALLY important, Like Rainbow dashes feelings. ("The Super Duper Party Pony" anyone?)

"let's not go on a tangent here" underrated joke

I'm sure that when sunburst and starlight was talking at the mirror pool it could've been a clones pov

"would u rather be called square waves? pause. or triangle w-" LMFOAOAOA I LOVE UR COMEDIC TIMING

But what about the 2nd Pinkie we see in the diner in "The Saddle Row Review"?

Sawtooth I know that sign is right because 1 Pinky always gets distracted 2 The clones having memories of pinkes live . See that’s all the evidence Twilight is guilty!

Signs Holmes: Twilight killed Pinkie!
Me: I refuse to believe that Pinkie was killed by Vegeta's Technique TM!

You forgot one thing if Twilight killed the real Pinkie then all of the clones would be gone

Finally someone shares my same theory

I think I may have a way on how the portal works you see pinkie dived into the pool making herself a clone so which means they're reflection is not their reflection its themselves who have the same thoughts as them same movements until they finally chose to dive in and meet themselves you know what that means inside the mirror pool there might be thousands of clones inside it including all of the ponies in equestria or is that just silly

Wait, so the real pinkie JUMPED in and came out with wiped memory that was passed onto the clone. Then she saw the clone and started being happy like the regular pinkie. So the pinkie that was sad was clearly the clone. Am I making sense or making nothing 😅? For example: Twilight DID kill the real pinkie and the clone was left with the memory of the real pinkie. Poor real pinkie.... Goodbye 😢.

In the episode with Rarity having a newspaper entry don't we see a Pinkie clone sitting at the booth behind Pinkie? Maybe the clone is who told Sunburst about the mirror pool and he thought she was the original when in fact the original was probably in the castle or the sweet shop or even off with the Mane 6 on some adventure or something. In other words, I think the original Pinkie DID survive, but so did a single clone who was never found by the Mane 6, therefore not present at the test. Remember how Apple Jack or Rainbowdash (forgot which one) said "I think that's all of them..."? Key word, THINK. Even they didn't know if all the clones were captured! Who's to say there isn't a Pinkie clone left?

That's what I was scared about all the time during this episod. Even after the end I felt like something got lost. Hopefully not, but it could realy be.

theory idea: how is rarity so fabulous

I don't think Twilight was killing them...just sending them back to the pool...I don't think the real Pinkie could have been sent back.

If Twilight could just kill them...she would be super OverPowered....just a poof and anyone would die.

Seems way too easy...

I think Sunny is related to Twilight? Btw awesome vid!
Here is some proof:
1. Sunny's dad necklace
2. The journal
3. Sunny becomes an alicorn just like Twilight!
I hope you use this!💗

Pinky remembered her first party though

He forgot that all the clones that were zapped returned to the pool instead of exploding

One doubt,
Imagine the mane 5 going through the mirror of eqg. You see, people say that in the future people will be like totally all robotic and everything will be only tech. Soooooooo, if they went through the mirror then what will they see the tech world or the normal world of chs. I would love it if u answer 🙂

Feb 12 2021. The video posted that day was about a clone that escaped and survived. Say that clone ended up talking to Starlight or sunburst and they ask about the clone incident and say “I dived into the pool” that is how they’d think that the cloning happened that way with the original Pinkie still being alive

Except she didn't kill the Clone's she sent then back into the pool so technically that just means the original pinkie is trapped behind the pool. Alternate Universe?

Hahaha you're living as a statue, this is funny as f*** I am tempted to binge watch all of your videos but I'm not going to can't wait to meet you. Looking forward to interviewing you.

I really hope the real pinkie isn’t dead. I actually don’t think she died because can Twilight kill a real/original pinkie…?

Hold up, what if she did because, when she blew up a pinkie that got distracted, her horn turned red!!! THAT WAS PROBABLY THE CAUSE OF HER KILLING PINKIE PRIME… orrrr it Twilight’s horn was red because of how much pinkies she blew up at the time. :l

OMG YOU MISSED SOMETHING THERE IS STILL ONE CLONE LEFT IN ONE OF THE EPISODES SEE IF YOU CAN FIND IT!!!!😏

Ok she is the real pinkie pie bc how could she use the element of harmony laughter other wise and I’m still not convinced that even if there was a clone in her place that clone has her memories and makes the same life choices as you can clearly see in the episode when pinkie made the clones that all of the clones are way wilder than her thus they would not be able to stand still or even walk normally reply if you disagree or agree thanks

"Let's not go on a tangent here prime"

That was genius

To be fair it is pinkie were talking about here she can easily forget some important facts so either story could necessarily be true yes you do have to go to the source to find the answer but sometimes not even the source has the answer your looking for I could have forgotten about when it happened or how it happened in my opinion ask Celestia for a look into pinkie pies time stream I know she can do it thought you are just an earth pony you can still do it alicorns are immortal right ask somepony about princess cadence and see if you can find her or something on the young six or discord in fact where was he during the time of a new generation

Wouldn't a reflection answer "theyd pulled me out of the pool" though?

And this is why season 1 was the most conspriacy-free season.

what if that didn't happend and the original pinkie pie survived :/

when your accidently on time


nice

If Pinkie was a clone how can she connect to her element?😀

When the cloning army thing happened pinkie pie was rlly sad so she'd pay more attention to things and win the test and imagine after the cloning episode pinkie pie has to wear the element if the fake one wears it then whatever villian they were fighting the villian prob succeed his/her plan if the real pinkie pie wears the necklace then the villian would be defeated

Well, actually, it's like Pinky reborn, because when Twilight killed the other Pinkys, all of the memory come back to the last Pinky, I think. So, this Pinky is like the first. But I don't know, why Twilight didn't just ask, who went first to the lake, or who didn't get pull out the lake, but it's never mind now.

yep thats true i watch it along time ago and i still remmber it the rest of the pinkies not gave the memory up as u can see the real pinkie put int the mirror pool and her memory was give a way cause the pink thing went up and the rest did not so yea she killed the real one :/

Sawtooth having a british accent is nightmare fuel.

The cloning happened the real ones pull the clones from the mirror pool

My theory: Soo i think that if twilight is not in G5 then what about her successor? We have come to believe that at the end of Mlp that luster dawn will be twilights successor but in my idea that is not the case i believe that twilights being herself will pick someone else who has been on the path of friendship the only problem with luster being twilights successor is that she should be around in G5 if she was twilights successor the whole history of G5 changes! i believe that twilight following your other theory 'What happened to twilight?' Since she trapped her magic.Equestria has been out of hand so twilight has no reason to look for a successor of course there are ups and downs with this theory Like: What id twilight had found a successor before she did her sacrifice? Or What if twilight was still looking for a successor even after her magic was drained? I Simply don't know..But i'll keep researching and report back to you!

I don't think twilight was reasonable in pinkie's death because if you noticed twilight and everyone else could see that the original pinkie was sad because she felt like she was making her friends miserable from all of the clones so when twilight decided to do the test she knew that the original pinkie would be the only sad one so no matter what they tried the sad original pinkie would be the only one left.

We don’t actually now she could of literally killed the real one!

I'm wondering who Principal Cinch could be in the pony world.

and look at argyle's home. one of zecora facemasks are there. I think he went to the everfree forest to know about the Mane 6

This is a kids show and Hasbro wouldn't put children through the trauma of losing a beloved character Remember that

I have a question where was cadence and flurry heart when the pony separated they are immortal aren't they.

"let's not go on a tangent" how dare you make math funny

or is the original Pinkie hiding out? like in the episode where Rarity's friends get interviewed we see a 2nd Pinkie

The spell was a clone killing spell, if the real Pinkie did get distracted the spell wouldn’t work.

This might sound stupid but maybe if twilight asked every single pinkie the same question, she will eventually the one pinkie with a different answer, she could probably kill the ones who say the same thing but keep the odd ones

how would a clone know about celestia or that she's supossed to write her letters with freindship lessons.

Paint : Hello sine
Ink : WHY DO I HAVE A CLONE ASWELL NOW-
Pen : 2 clones~!
Ink : WHAT THE-
Acquarello: I exsist aswell XD
Ink : WHO MADE CLONES OF ME
Error : uh....

I didn't know pinkie pie was a clone all this time

This is to complex for my head to wrap around but you may have a point but hopefully she didn’t

it would explain why pinky got magic back after it was taken then given back because the pool must be magic

my theory is that pinkie is not a clone its because the tree might feel that something is wrong with pinkie so then the tree sends a message to twighlight saying that pinkie is a clone so basically that didnt happen
the tree didnt say anything to twighlight about pinkie is a clone so yeh thats my theory

Now we have 3 of him?
"This is getting out of hand, now there is 2 of them." is probably what the original thought

I know how to get the real pinkie back…




Just don’t watch that episode

I think not because pinke was one of the main. 6 so if they did do that in the show it would have been more longer of how they had to get pinke back and Evan I’d she was gone that would mean that the clone aka the new pinke that u say would die at the pont that pinke diead

Memories do not spread into other people then they will remember when they were born which the real pinkie does not and she still does not

Me: Do you know that she said she was pulled out of the pool or were you just guessing?

YASSSSSSSSSSS
i had this theory the second i saw the episode when i was 12 XD
turns out its a common theory

yall remember in the episode where rarity opened her shop in manehattan and pinkie pie was interviewed and he talked abt he cloning and then behind her sat ANOTHER pinkie pie and looked back at her shocked

SIGN SIGN! If you look at one further episode I forgot which but there was another Pinkie alive. Some say it's a clone but if this theory is correct...maybe THAT is the REAL PINKIE PIE!

Sawtooth I have a question for you if princess Celestia has a nephew didn’t that mean Luna had to have a baby? And if so with who?

I think princess celestia would understand. Plus twilight didn’t kill them. She sent them back to the mirror pool.

I remember thinking this- now it’s confirmed…. Shit

I HAVE A THEORY!!!!: IN SAWTOOTH'S VIDEO: ' Who is "Kevin"?! ' he talked about hiding in plain sight, and then he talked about the ' Pinkie paradox '. BUT... WHAT IF.. KEVIN HAS BEEN PINKIE THIS WHOLE. TIME!!!

Hear me out, I know what you're thinking: " oh but pinkie was at the wedding that Kevin was spotted at!" - I don't really have an explanation for that... :| but I think the chances are HIGH that "Kevin" simply avoided the ' Pinkie paradox ' by COMPLETELY BECOMING IT!!! 

Sawtooth also says: " Who knows how long ' Kevin ' has been hiding in Pony Ville." Yes, it's true that he could be the two that he theorised about.
but pinkie wasn't on the card called 'Blending In' with: 'Kevin' as the name at the top of the card. but anyways,

I think this makes sense, if only pinkie was on the card.. anyways what do you think sawtooth? :D I hope you see this !!!

P.S: I still watch you from when your channel used to be called "The Brony Notion" !! love ur content and keep up the good work! <3

If the pinkie pie really was a clone then how did she age? Do the clones age? This doesn’t really make sense but at the same time it does

Yeah, I noticed this way before this episode came out. The Real pinkie is gone because the real one has a brighter tone of colours then the other clones. If you watch closely the last two pinkies were the real one and the fake one. The fake one didn't disappear, the real pinkie did

… Then How DID TWILIGHT FRICKING SPARKLE IS STILL IN THE MAIN STORY AFTER