to everyone asking, i have addressed the pinkie clone from saddle row review, in my video "pinkie pie's clone": https://youtu.be/prD4Y7Y_cks

for all we know, THAT might be the real pinkie and the main character one is actually a clone...

Well, actually, it's like Pinky reborn, because when Twilight killed the other Pinkys, all of the memory come back to the last Pinky, I think. So, this Pinky is like the first. But I don't know, why Twilight didn't just ask, who went first to the lake, or who didn't get pull out the lake, but it's never mind now.

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Hi pinkie pie is on the front please let us check

Hi pinkie pie is on the front please let us check

Hi pinkie pie <br>Okay thanks for your help today and for the day you have received a check in

Hi pinkie pie
Okay thanks for your help today and for the day you have received a check in

It wold be interesting to hear your thoughts on it because they still cold be out thare🤔😁

It wold be interesting to hear your thoughts on it because they still cold be out thare🤔😁

What if they are still alive?… your clones..? That’d be interesting, and good for the theorizing! Eny one who sees this can expand my thoughts! 😁

@WS'camel the zig zag line is called a sawtooth wave! and the smooth line is a sine wave.

@WS'camel the zig zag line is called a sawtooth wave! and the smooth line is a sine wave.

wait... why are you represented withsome kind of zigzag/curved line? while your clones are too but their's is slightly different... IS THIS SOME LORE? ON YOUR CHANNEL?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CLONE SURVIVED. THISPERSON DOES'NT EXPLAIN PROPERLY

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CLONE SURVIVED. THISPERSON DOES'NT EXPLAIN PROPERLY

@Эдвард Нигма fake

@Эдвард Нигма fake

Эдвард Нигма

Pinky didn't die , and even if she died this means that the other clones will disappear

Pinky didn't die , and even if she died this means that the other clones will disappear

She faced no problems the clone. But if she was found guilty of the originals death she would finally face the sentence she disireves.

How come some my little pony characters and the same color palette as their cutie marks? Like twilight starlight Trixie

some day you will be in castle with you subject prince sawtooth.

some day you will be in castle with you subject prince sawtooth.

He will be I  big trouble when king thorax finds him.

He will be I  big trouble when king thorax finds him.

@Roger Cook so she can teach her good for nothing son a property flogging.

@Roger Cook so she can teach her good for nothing son a property flogging.

@Roger Cook also how come he gets his own room unlike the other where they have to share a room.

Because he was the one who started the whole mess.

Because he was the one who started the whole mess.

@Roger Cook because who else is going to lay eggs for the future changelings not thorax.

@Roger Cook because who else is going to lay eggs for the future changelings not thorax.

@Roger Cook  the least king thorax could do is pick a female for the heir after all a male can't give birth on his own.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and I just realized you proved my point get dabed on

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and I just realized you proved my point get dabed on

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 now being discriminated I see that's how you show who's been a true loser

@Roger Cook  come back when you learn to reform and be happy of chrysalis you unreformed changeling.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 come back with me with actual proof

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 come back with me with actual proof

Maybe she died before her children were born.

Maybe she died before her children were born.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 when did we hear about Queen Chrysalis having a sister

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 when did we hear about Queen Chrysalis having a sister

So that why could maybe she was doing the same with thorax but it is to forget about her awful mother.

I think the reason chrysalis was being like that is maybe it's because her mother neglected her and let her abusive sister bully her though sisterhood.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 no it's the opposite she needs to apologize first

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 no it's the opposite she needs to apologize first

Well I am not talking to thorax until he apologizes to his mother chrysalis.

Well I am not talking to thorax until he apologizes to his mother chrysalis.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 how about you move to the timeline queen chrysalis won

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 how about you move to the timeline queen chrysalis won

I will never forgive you for that thorax for betraying your own mother chrysalis.

I will never forgive you for that thorax for betraying your own mother chrysalis.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and what evidence do you have

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and what evidence do you have

When he sold her out to those ponies and their dragon.

When he sold her out to those ponies and their dragon.

@Roger Cook  maybe but thorax betrayed her first.

@Roger Cook  maybe but thorax betrayed her first.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I'm done talking to you now talk to the hand

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I'm done talking to you now talk to the hand

I don't think a European alicorn would be so welcoming to a Asian changeling. No it's not fake at all.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 she tried to steal his love that's not where mother should do a mother should care for her babies her children even if they're adults they should at least care what she did was negligent and absolutely absurd and she says he betrayed them she could have joined them but she didn't for what reason pettiness grudge maybe she's just a giant jerk that doesn't care for what her children needs she literally tried to kill one of them

Why does he get to be the leader? He is just her good for nothing son.

Why does he get to be the leader? He is just her good for nothing son.

She just wanted what was best for her son thorax.

She just wanted what was best for her son thorax.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I disagree that if she lied twice about finding a different way and she didn't even take the Friendship offer she denied it incredible she shoved Starlite shimmers on out of the way and she said I'll get my revenge on you Starlight Shimmer yes I know she could get a Redemption Arc like Discord and starlight Shimmer in the Arthur changelings she's a scandalous and a liar and a big hypocrite too

she is just angry after thorax took her place.

she is just angry after thorax took her place.

She is a little angry after being turned to stone.

She is a little angry after being turned to stone.

Sawtooth thinks she can get better and I agree with them.

Sawtooth thinks she can get better and I agree with them.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and it's bad she

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and it's bad she

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 no she lied about finding a different way she didn't even try

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 no she lied about finding a different way she didn't even try

@Roger Cook  I know chrysalis is a bad guy but shouldn't thorax forgive her she was after all his mother.

Wouldn't you clones also become statues because they technically r just mirrors they all from the they were just mirror what you do unless it doesn't work like that what you do so technically they have to be statues

i know chrysalis was not a nice person but the least can't the others even thorax forgive her she was their mom well thorax's really.

Yo my dude. Renember me. Have you look at my theory. Please say yes. I work dam long on it

Yo my dude. Renember me. Have you look at my theory. Please say yes. I work dam long on it

Want to make more sense that pinky is the one that's still out there hiding that we occasionally see, she's spying on her friends and still continues to miss them or they can just take turns going back and forth so when they run into each other the other one is in the disguise. That sounds more pinkie pie weirdness

Sine and Co sine the evil witches  wishing to get revenge on royal sawtooth and his kind.

Sine and Co sine the evil witches  wishing to get revenge on royal sawtooth and his kind.

Do your parents ocellus and pharynx know about his.

Do your parents ocellus and pharynx know about his.

Thorax is chrysalis's good for nothing son.

Thorax is chrysalis's good for nothing son.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Hey it's just a theory I would like to see

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Hey it's just a theory I would like to see

@Ash Oleary hello did I get a call did I give permission to make a new leader no I did not.

@Ash Oleary hello did I get a call did I give permission to make a new leader no I did not.

@dyandra dragon pony word of warning I know all the lawyers.

@dyandra dragon pony word of warning I know all the lawyers.

I just thought of something you NEED to do a video on. The changing feed on love but the sirens feed on hate could they be connected.

@sad ghost 1 OK COOL I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THAT LOL

@sad ghost 1 OK COOL I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THAT LOL

I have a question about the my little pony gen 5 what happened to the other speeches like dragons and the other acorns like flurry heart please respond I want answers help me I  bin having panic attacks about this

@dyandra dragon pony and as for you your thinking of the new one that came out sunny mom isnt mentioned in  the new one you get to see n meet her dad

@Randomizer flurry heart was born as a alicorn and twilight and the other alicorns had to earn the right and prove that they have a right to be alicorns luna and her sister were like flurry they were born as alicorsn

@dyandra dragon pony they never said sunnys mom or dad

@dyandra dragon pony they never said sunnys mom or dad

Why did the pony in the future of my little pony become an alicorn on the spot while twilight and the other three alicorns (leaving flurry heart) went to some kind of world to meet celestia or the person ruling????

Sawtooth is a cool dude and sine is their twin sibling.

Sawtooth is a cool dude and sine is their twin sibling.

Sawtooth is ocellus and pharynx child. And thorax is sawtooth's uncle. And chrysalis sawtooth's grandma.

Sine may be right. But sawtooth doesn't want to believe it.

Sine may be right. But sawtooth doesn't want to believe it.

@Noah Quijas  sawtooth was having fun with mlp.

@Noah Quijas  sawtooth was having fun with mlp.

@Zipbees how about you shut it and and know the truth pinky pie is not gone she is alive so your all fakers

@Ash Oleary its just an idea if pinky was destroyed or for any other clones Idk thanks for your input

While you did address the existence of the Saddle Row Review clone, there is a possibility that wasn't addressed.

To clarify, the existence of the SRR clone would definitely prove the existence of two different Pinkies with two different perspectives occupying the same universe. The Pinkie we see after the 'Too Many Pinkie Pies' episode could therefore have been the original (explaining why she still has her memories) while the Pinkie Starlight and Sunburst got their retelling of the events from could be the SRR clone. Again, both perspectives would exist at the same time in two different Pinkies.

I guess it's a matter of which explanation you feel is most likely. Either:

A. The original is dead and her memories somehow got transferred to one of the surviving clones, or...

B. The original is alive and sometimes gets confused with her surviving clone

Personally I feel the latter one requires fewer unproven assumptions, though that's just me.

@my little pony artist see and people thing pinky is dead when shes not

@my little pony artist see and people thing pinky is dead when shes not

@my little pony artist yet again pinky pie is alive not dead

@my little pony artist yet again pinky pie is alive not dead

Please read and answer, The pinkie pie in today is not a clone because the clone didn't care about anything in pinki pies life they just cares about fun but pinki pie was depressed and worried and the memory from the real pinki pie couldn't have just went in side of a clone because only one thing could do that memory stone and it could only erase memory and its in canterlot high and got destroyed

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 the real pinky is alive

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 the real pinky is alive

Idea: maybe if the original is destroyed the memories go to the copy whom is older then the rest?

Hi sine I kinda agree  with pinkie remembering her past party's because  what if she was killed and the pinkie that survived held her memory's so this is how it goes if the  pinkie that was left got pinkie pies memory's  because she was the last clone pinkies memory's went to pinkie two<br>Let me put it into your terms say you made a clone with you did say you died sine would maybe get your memory's

Hi sine I kinda agree  with pinkie remembering her past party's because  what if she was killed and the pinkie that survived held her memory's so this is how it goes if the  pinkie that was left got pinkie pies memory's  because she was the last clone pinkies memory's went to pinkie two
Let me put it into your terms say you made a clone with you did say you died sine would maybe get your memory's

Twilight didnt kill pink pie so keep on lying

Twilight didnt kill pink pie so keep on lying

What happened to the Griffins kirins dragons Changeling and hippogriff😔

What happened to the Griffins kirins dragons Changeling and hippogriff😔

I made you a button that will allow you to time travel anywhere in time here 🖲

I made you a button that will allow you to time travel anywhere in time here 🖲


One possibility is that they purposely gave out false information to prevent more clones. If someone found the mirror pool and tried jumping in nothing would happen. However you don't want the public to know the truth of how to make clones of themselves, so they told false directions. Can you imagine a bunch of Cutie Mark Crusaders' clones? That's a freighting idea.

@Sawtooth Waves Yeahhh me too I love it too

@Sawtooth Waves *Yeahhh* me too *I love it too*

That is definitely something the cmc's would do...

This is really interesting... and also kinda funny... If the mirror pool was really an interdimensional portal sort of like the magic mirror, maybe clones are just a few of the possibly infinite alternate reality versions of each other and jumping in is how clones come out in another universe.

@Sawtooth Waves what about a bunch of discord,pinke pie can concentrate when she wants remember the real pinke worked on a rock farm

King thorax is always try to make chrysalis a fool.

@Sean Simon LuRes why does thorax not like Chrysalis? she's his mother.

Do you think king thorax will want a word with sawtooth?

And his own brother pharynx and ocellus and his family too he had to banish.

@Farrah Rosenman  for his subjects it was victory but for him it was just a terrible reminder that he had to banished his mother.

@Farrah Rosenman  king thorax feels sorry for queen chrysalis.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 he probably copied a form but gave himself a new name

I think the issue is writers not later on understanding the camera movement, many have been confused there. But the story could also be from a clone prior they left. Twilight would have asked what happened from one of them even before finding the real one.

king thorax is very mad and disappointed at saw tooth.

she knows how to tame her wild son thorax who is good for nothing.

I think pharynx has secretly been ocellus's husband. I think chrysalis was secretly thorax's mother. So I think ocellus and pharynx was sawtooth's mom and dad secretly.  So thorax was sawtooth's uncle secretly. So than chrysalis was secretly sawtooth's grandmother.

@Pen mate well, a lot of ponies may have had their kids younger or older. Also pinkies son is confirmed to be a boy named Lil Cheese

But changelings can only copy the forms of others. So who's the original pony sawtooth waves?

Intresting.....cool!
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@Sawtooth Waves could you pls make your video a liittle faster

Hi I've got this question that's been killing me! So the thing is that I'm a recent fan and I saw the ending which I didn't even know existed! So I don't understand how all her friends are so aged and pinkie and sugar belle only had their kids then, because I've never seen any parent with a foal so small could look that old! Even A.J's mum only looked as old as that after her son was old enough for marriage! So I thought of two things one more likely and the other more interesting. First I thought maybe they just added a little too much emphasis on the whole thing. Then I thought maybe they already had kids! Grown up kids in the school of friendship just about 5 years younger than pumpkin and pound cake. Since Pinkie's older kid who I've named as vanilla cookie sandwich was probably in school that's why pinkie couldn't find a sitter. So please saw tooth I'm literarily begging you to reply. Your friend Pen mate

@Horseling S Twilight might have asked her to keep it quiet from Sunburst for the time being until Twilight personally knew and trusted him more. In all likelihood once he became a more established part of the group, Twilight opened up to him about it.

Although as Twilights second-in-command, wouldn’t Starlight know about this. Some ponies would need to know this to make sure that the knowledge stays alive.


There is one thing that all three of them completely overlooked.

Throughout that episode(though specifically after the clones cloned themselves multiple times), there was one Pinkie Pie who didn’t act like all the others did. While all the others acted crazy and goofy, one Pinkie acted sad and depressed. This Pinkie was the real Pinkie, because seeing clones of yourself driving your friends to insanity would be enough to bring someone to that point. The motivation to complete the test is clear.

She was the one who was left sitting there staring at the paint. She knew that it would be hard, but if it meant that she could enjoy hanging out with her friends without a bunch of crazy clones ruining everything, then it would be worth it 100%

YES!!!!!! MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!! HERE IS YOUR CROWN!: ( I can't make a crown on a computer lol sorry abt that pretend there's a crown emoji here.....)


But we saw the Tree of Harmony actively vanquish Chrysalis’ “clones” of the Mane 6 when she tried to steal the Elements of Harmony. If this Pinkie was indeed a clone, the Tree would’ve vaporised her long ago and she probably wouldn’t even be able to wield the Element of Laughter.

@Frontier Brain Anabel "vanquish" "vaporized" "wield" "antagonistic" "omniscient" What are you a DICTIONARY?! That's a lot of big words! (and you misspeld "Vaporized") (You probably think you're smart for noticing I messed up on spelling "misspelled" well too bad I did it that way for one purpose!

@Jayshel Guevarra Except those clones weren’t the real Pinkie and were still antagonistic. They only really cared about fun and not about friendship or the people around her. OG Pinkie has the memories and experiences with others to know not to go completely all out. The clones don’t. They won’t be able to wield the Element of Laughter. I’m also sure the Tree of Harmony or something would’ve detected the fake Pinkie since it is quite omniscient.

Maybe that's because it was an evil clone. The Pinkie's from the Mirror Pool accident are good clones.


As soon as I saw that episode I instantly theorised that the real Pinkie was replaced from that episode onwards, people say that the Elements of Harmony would stop working if its a fake but if its a clone she'd realistically be exactly the same. The chances are, she doesn't even know she's a clone herself. If all those pinkies did end up some place else however, then the real Pinkie likely would have fallen into insanity in a world with nothing but herself.

I believe that would be the case too. If the tree of harmony really is that smart, maybe that's why it didn't zap clone Pinkie Pie after noticing she wasn't the original one (like it did for the chrysalis clones). Because the old one was long gone, and after getting out of the "FUN FUN FUN" phase, the new one was just as good at being a reflection of the element (people DO say Pinkies Pie has been toned down over the seasons...)


They said the “real” Pinkie Pie would do anything for her friends. But did you see Pinkie in Sunset’s Backstage Pass? Sunset asked her to do a simple task to help her but Pinkie kept on getting distracted by churros.

But you see the pinkie who said that she would do anything to be with her friends was a pony but the in sunset's backstage pass the pinkie who got distracted was a human so you see as when twilight first came to the human world non of her friends knew her so it's obvious that the human pinkie didn't make any promises

but you can't blame her, churros ARE delicious, not that Sunset Shimmer's not delicious, but...O_O...that came out MUCH worse than I meant it. I mean that Churros are delicious, but that doesn't mean Pinkie didn't think Sunset was important, she just wanted to eat! Anyway, that's not Pinkie from Equestria...

@gender_aficionado the human pinkie pie is 15 or 16 more likely to be 16 because pony pinkie pie is 29. So there are similarities between them. I can figure this out though, it’s really complicated

To be fair, humane pinkie isn't a carbon copy of the pony one

Also that humane pinkie is a teen and pony pinkie is an adult


If the original Pinkie had indeed been mistaken for a clone and zapped away, the Elements of Harmony would've stopped working, because the clone Pinkie is not actually friends with the rest of the Mane 6 and the Elements would've noticed that.

Plus, Pinkie could easily have told a false story to Starlight who in turn would share that false story with Sunburst

@Lapis Lazuli or mabe truick shitlight g;immer into \\\\\\\ eat. a piosin dartfrog. LOLOLOLOL

@Lapis Lazuli to bad the tree didnt do the same thing to shitlighgt glimmer that it did to the tree clones of Maine 6 except slower and more pa. in. fuIIy. while everone watches and Iaffs and machks fun oft her. and records and liverstrems her scree. ming and tr. Ash. ing, around in aggihunny. and reIIjsh in her Missouriy.

You have a very good point. The elements are only tied with the original 6 and not a clone. I expect it the element of laughter would have lost its colour or something like that

@elyseie-an they' all be laffing wile they kjII shitlight glimmer as sIowIy and palnfuIIy as posable. over and over agian for all eternity. lol

it could have still worked cuz pinkie's clone is STILL an embodiment of laughter and has become friends with the main 6 already...?

@Sukh Kaur Like Chrysalis's magic tree clones didn't work. she sjould of just maked shitlight glimmer eat abunch of rattan food cantammenated wit bachalisim and tifoyd and collara and then everone wach andlaff wile shedies in a musty oId dunjin sell. That prolly wood off worked better.

I agree with you cause to let the elements of harmony work all the 6  real ponies have to work it and if pinkie was fake it wouldn't work.

@Jane's dick  fr and what's up with your grammer dude?

@･ᴀʟᴇx𝗫シ･ #roadto100 there comint isnit as dark as my fanart and fanfiction of shitlight glimmer getting ecxavtly waot she dersirves.

@Weird the spirit of the tree of harmony was literally talking and thinking and all that. Also, you’re forgetting that the elements of harmony aren’t just some random jewls or smth they’re magic and have literally connected themselves with the main 6. it’s not, not likely at all for the element to just flop cus they detect that it’s just a clone instead of the actual pinkie

@Weird  maybe it just destroyed itself because they was no use in it because there was the fake Pinky who cannot use it because the element of harmonies knew it  so maybe that is the real reason elements of harmony got destroyed

@Hola Amigos shitlight glimmer should be 7arr3d and f3a7h3r3d and 60iIed aIive in avacado 0iI.

Also the clones weren’t too similar to pinkie, they mostly chanted fun and were much more energetic and more insane

ur right, i agree....
but i have a theory:
Paint Dry Test: ok. i have something. so we all know this:

1. Rainbow dash came in before the test of paint dry started

2. Rainbow said she found another pinkie (that we know was the real one) drawing said face on the ground

3. Rainbow put the last pinkie found in the crowd

Perhaps if we look at the position the pinkie was put down on and the posititon that the last pinkie stayed in, we will know if she was the REAL pinkie..... i gave some thought to this , but i have a feeling (im not sure really not sure at all) that there is something that can rip apart this theory..........

@Tyquan Cleckley ya and sometimes her ghoast come back to join my oc repeetedly brutily torchering shitlight glimmer toodeath. lolol

Wait, what if you and sawtooth are both right!  WHAT IF :the real pinkie was dead in season 3 and the pony after then was a clone and elements actually recognize real and clone pinkie. Ok now let's go back and see when did they actually use the elements in the show, the used it 3 times overall (in season one's premiere against nightmare moon,in season two's premiere against discord and seasons nine's premiere against sambra. ) in first two cases wich was before pinkie even cloned herself, the elements worked perfectly but in the third one wich was after pinkie cloning, elements didn't work and sambra survived!!! Maybe the elements didn't defeat sambra because element of laughter didn't work cause pinkie was a clone! It's my theory       p.s : and yes I know in season 7 finally they used elements too but in the end they defeated the monster without that much help of the elements

@Melody yea shed have to be prety stouped to tell shitlight glimmer how the meerpool acshally works. She shoudl have told shitlight  a pit of lava was the pool and laff when shitlight clims in the lava and bernies toodeath slowly and pajnfuIIy .lol

The elements are so powerful, I doubt they could be fooled by a clone. And yeah, pinky isn’t exactly reliable- though she might just not wanna tell so they don’t also manage to use the mirror pool? Cuz given what happened, any pony, even pinky, would keep it a secret.

@SelineY no I just had to spell it wrong so the sensor ship bots wouldn't  daleete it.

@Weird The elements may not be alive, but the tree of harmony does have a conscience kind of like artificial intelligence.  For example in the episode What Lies Beneath, or come to think of it, any cutie mark map episode.

@Weird what about the Pinky Promise? how would clone know of that? also Maud exists I don't think a clone would know of Maud let alone how to make a rock candy. ALSO do you really think that a element of harmony would be known to a clone? Pinkie made the clones to attend to her friends's plans she would only need to teach the personality and names of her friends. it's also the element of LAUGHTER! Pinkie always tries to make her friends laugh but the clones only want fun they don't want to have fun with their "Friends" instead they just want to have fun. Pinkie is a good part of Laughter the clones aren't

@Weird Pinkie Pie shood sIjce opin shitlight glimmers stummnek and tiara out hier guts and poor lava on here head.

But there’s one problem:
The element is at the end of the day, and none moving object. That and at the end something pink goes into pinkie pie’s chest. It could have been the memories.
While we may want to believe that the element of laugher would NOT notice being used by a clone, we know that because it may have a lot of magic it. Is. Not. Alive. The element itself could care less if it was the real pinkie or a clone, cutie marks are for the most part, are one of a kind, no two cuties marks can the the same, starlight’s Village doesn’t count.
Why does the village not count?
It’s really simple, the = on their flanks weren’t their real cutie marks, just fake marks to replace the old.

You're right, Pinkie is not exactly known for being reliable.


I'm not buying it. Without exception, in the episode all of the Pinkie clones behaved as one-dimensional caricatures of the real Pinkie, exaggerating and focusing entirely on her desire for fun. Her love for her friends and neighbors was completely absent. The only one to express anything other than that was the original, and that was the key to her success. If she failed she would lose her friends, and that was a far bigger motivator than losing her life. <br>Sunburst and Starlight had, at best, a second-hand account of what happened to inform their conversation. Even without deliberate misinformation (which is a possibility), the details were more likely to be wrong than right.

I'm not buying it. Without exception, in the episode all of the Pinkie clones behaved as one-dimensional caricatures of the real Pinkie, exaggerating and focusing entirely on her desire for fun. Her love for her friends and neighbors was completely absent. The only one to express anything other than that was the original, and that was the key to her success. If she failed she would lose her friends, and that was a far bigger motivator than losing her life.
Sunburst and Starlight had, at best, a second-hand account of what happened to inform their conversation. Even without deliberate misinformation (which is a possibility), the details were more likely to be wrong than right.


Pinkie is well known to break the 4th wall, and if she broke it enough, she would probably get the memories of the original through this power. Therefore, the memory problem would be solved.


I’m not convinced, as Sawtooth said  the clones didn’t know the rest of the mane 6 and there is no evidence to support the theory that only one Pinkie can contain memories. We also saw how depressed she got from knowing she caused all of the clones. We know when Pinkie gets actually sad, there is something big going on <br>But I’ll admit I’m kinda bias, I want the Pinkie We know to be the real so I think it is the real

I’m not convinced, as Sawtooth said  the clones didn’t know the rest of the mane 6 and there is no evidence to support the theory that only one Pinkie can contain memories. We also saw how depressed she got from knowing she caused all of the clones. We know when Pinkie gets actually sad, there is something big going on
But I’ll admit I’m kinda bias, I want the Pinkie We know to be the real so I think it is the real


i know it's been over a while since you ""returned"" but i just wanted to express my appreciation, your videos always put a huge smile on my face <33 ive been a subscriber since 2015 and there's never a moment where i don't enjoy your theories and im proud of how far you've come<br>thank you sawtooth and good luck in the future <33 here's to more years of mlp

i know it's been over a while since you ""returned"" but i just wanted to express my appreciation, your videos always put a huge smile on my face <33 ive been a subscriber since 2015 and there's never a moment where i don't enjoy your theories and im proud of how far you've come
thank you sawtooth and good luck in the future <33 here's to more years of mlp


Plot Twist: Twilight killed the human Pinkie. The real Pinkie was in the Equestria Girls movies all along

Possibly . I mean the pinkies switched worlds at some point…. I can remember when though.

Wiat you can be right because pinky pie in equestria girls new every thing about twilight’s secret at the start and the other girls didn’t wait can someone do a theory about this

@Annabelle Andrulis are you a mythologist?

@Annabelle Andrulis are you a mythologist?

Wait wait u remember the pinkie pie that said in equistria girls he know that twilight was a poni princess when twilight didn't answer

@Vidya Kushte that doesn't matter what so ever.

@Vidya Kushte that doesn't matter what so ever.

@Vidya Kushte possibly but we don't know

@Vidya Kushte possibly but we don't know

@Raptor Zeraora I forgot about that before I made this comment

@Raptor Zeraora pinkie clones are so much fun.

@Raptor Zeraora pinkie clones are so much fun.

Execpt the pinkie clone massacre happened befire equestria girls

How you find out that Twilight killed the real pinkie pie??

@Guenther Shogun Neo the clone is all gone.

@Guenther Shogun Neo the clone is all gone.

The pony pinkie came to canderlot high and the Equestria girl pinkie came to equestria

@Mannon BlackBlood maybe the clones are just twins siblings.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 oh that would make sense lol

@Beetriceretops maybe the clones were actually changelings.

THAT WOULD BE WHY WHEN THE STUDENT SIX GOT THE MAGIC BACK FROM COZY GLOW, SOME MAGIC WENT TO PINKIE PIE! IT WAS THE MAGIC FROM THE GEODE!

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 wot- btw u can press enter instead of making a new reply-

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 wdym how does that have anything to do with my reply?

@•CureAngel• the cake couple is quit busy with the twins.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT<br>that explains why human pinkie knew everything that was going on!

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
that explains why human pinkie knew everything that was going on!

This is an awesome theory, but like others have pointed out, it is set after Twilight becomes an alicorn. Which means it just wouldn't be possible. And if my memory serves me correctly, couldn't the portal only open at a certain time, which is why Sunset chose to steal the crown at that moment and why it closed behind Twilight? Either way, it just wouldn't ever be able to be possible.

@Lily's world :3 sadly she's gone forever unfortunately.

@Lily's world :3 I guess she's not coming back sadly.

@Lily's world :3 I guess she's not coming back sadly.

Oh wait this is pinkie we're talking about nvm

Oh wait this is pinkie we're talking about nvm

Then how was she in one world and then SUDDENLY to another??
I mean let's be real here she can't just teleport.
Or can she....
Nah I don't think so

Thats not possible twilight was a unicorn  when they had to figure out which pinkie pie wasn't a clone they figured it out way before she turned into a Alcorn and when she had to go to the human world she was an Alcorn the real pinkie pie is in equestria and even if human pinkie and pony pinkie switched places it was a long time after figuring out which pinkie pie wasn't a clone and sending the clones back to the mirror pool so even if pony pinkie is in the human world the human pinkie is alive and in equestria and the blooper real is something that dint actually happen so the real pinkie and the human pinkie are both alive and in the world they belong in and each of them can predict what is going on in the other world because they both have pinkie sense

Bruh she was at the back some kids think pinkie moved to the middle or the middle left

That will explain why the human pinkie knew about equestria and the elements of harmony

@Habiba Shamim beware of Queen chrysalis and her changeling children.

Not likely.  The first Equestria Girls film hadn't happened yet.  Twilight Sparkle was still a unicorn in "Too Many Pinkie Pies".

It is sad that thorax had to betray his own mother chrysalis.

I guess flurry heart's parents suffered from misscarges and stillborn children.

Yes flurry heart was their only surviving child.

Yes flurry heart was their only surviving child.

AND THATS HOW THE EQUESTRIAN GIRL PINKIE KNEW ABOUT IT

AND THATS HOW THE EQUESTRIAN GIRL PINKIE KNEW ABOUT IT

@Nandhini KJ so I'm guessing the bloopers reel is canon?

Yh it would explain how pinky knows about the pony world

@StrawberryStar yes I know that I was just trying to connect to the theory of the person who commented this comment

@Nandhini KJ idk I think it was from one of Sawtooth Waves videos but either way it is a true statement that these blooper reals are made to show what didn't happen.

@StrawberryStar wasn't that a dialogue of sine waves from the 'Pinkie pie's' clone video.

And yes the purpose of a blooper real IS to show what didn't happen but sawtooth did say that that can happen

(it's just my theory)

@Nandhini KJ the purpose of a blooper real is to show things that definitely did not happen.

I stan too many groups! Check em out in my about

Yes they exchanged worlds in the blooper real

Yes they exchanged worlds in the blooper real


Dang it I was just researching this a couple days ago! Stop reading my mind Sawtooth! 😆🧐

On a side note, awesome theoretics as usual. You're really good at these and that is a gift 😇

Also nice tie-in cloning yourself 😎


As i’ve seen in other shows/videos clones don’t really have any memories of the original, if the real pinkie pie did die then the pinkie clone would have kept jumping and saying “fun! fun! fun!” Instead of actually caring about the mane 5. This could still be right as equestria has many mysteries, that’s all i have to say tbh i could be wrong


Now there's an interesting, though scary, thought. Thanks for sharing your ideas with us! ^_^
I wonder how the Mirror Pool works and how it was formed. Are the clones actual living beings or magical constructs with limited sentience (or at least the semblance of it)? Given enough time, would they have gained proper life and sapience?
How does the clone banishing spell even work? Twilight finds the spell in a book and says that there's a chance she might banish the real Pinkie by mistake. Is this fear based on an actual statement from the book, or is it just speculation on Twilight's part? Maybe the book only explains that the spell banishes its targets to the Mirror Pool with the assumption that it'll only be used on clones. If the text had neglected to mention any other details, Twilight would have been wary about using it on the real Pinkie. However, the spell probably wouldn't do anything to the original if it were specifically made to dispel magical clones.
If the book HAD explicitly stated that even the original could be banished, that would have meant that the spell converted ANY physical body, clone or original, into magical energy to be sent to the pool. How would one retrieve an original if they were accidentally banished? o.O

Also, I think this is my first time seeing Sine and Cosine. How did they come to be?


It breaks my heart that Sawtooth never got to have another chat with his dear clone, and that we can only guess at how the clones must have lived their lives. I really love the lore you are making for your characters!!!


There is also the chance that the real pinkie didn’t wanna risk it and fled, hoping that twilight would realize it’s not her while she lied low, and ended up becoming one of the clones they missed. Also, I always thought that pinkie had just been pulled into a parallel universe.

Ayo I got top comment thanks

@Gloomy Animates did you know that top comment can change after a while?

also the fact there is still a living clone of pinky.

@Glow Pon3 then twilight would have to live with the fact she killed pinkie without knowing and maybe that's why the lake is forgotten cause of the same reason after a clone confessed they had to live with the same guilt of killing someone and if that clone was pinkie's great grandma and if clones can reproduce like any other pony then pinkie was already a clone to begin with (this is probably unlikely tho)

@mk This is my belief as well.  If the others chose the clone, then who was she to spoil it?  They were having fun right?  If she ruined their fun with her clone, she would have to live with that FOREVER!

@DontTouchMyTea I know why, and not everything has to be about killing, sometimes there’s dark humor or just straight up creepy songs

@•Buttercup• i can't remember such dark things like killing was ever a thing in mlp

Look in the comments and you'll see why the real pinkie pie is still there

@DontTouchMyTea If you also think about it if you watched the show they’re has been dark moments. Plus I also know that anything this guy says can be used to go against his theory, due to 10 plus seasons movies and EQ girls. But if there is no evidence to debunk his theory then that means it could be true, some people are just commenting to A. Debunk or B. To give him more information about the story and sorta collect newer information

@DontTouchMyTea I know that for a fact and most shows have stuff to uncover.

@•Buttercup• lore yes for education but not dark. You know that this is just a theory from that guy and is probably not true at all since there are many things which would speak against it?

@DontTouchMyTea All shows and including kid shows have lore and the show was always dark

Clones are made from magic in school a razz part2 pinky reseves magic for that exact reason

@itz just a __ rose 🌹 I looked up 2 minuets and 31 seconds into the episode season 6 episode 9 I only saw one Pinkie Pie

That would be a cool idea for a MLP fanfiction.

@Pink_ Kitty_333 ever since that episode, there’s about 2-3 pinkie clone cameos per season. The most notable are in the one in which they’re setting up rarity’s boutique in Manhattan, with three in one episode. One in the dance club, one on the street, and one behind pinkie when she’s being interviewed after saying something about the cloning. I can’t remember exactly where ever single one of these are, but I know for sure that they’re there and of the ones I just mentioned because they’re the instances that are referenced most often on this topic

@Hu Tao · 1.2M views · 2 hour ago Exactly! Where was human twilight when pony twilight went to pony equestria or sunset?

@Violet Flower where is the human pinkie then? Same fate as human sunset?

@Violet Flower that would explain how human pinkie knows a lot about equestria

@mk maybe the real pinkie fled to equestrian high

Or she fled and became the pinkie behind the clone during the interview keeping a eye on the clone

@vasimations THERE IS? CAN YOU GIVE ME THE TIME STAMP IF YOU CAN

This makes sense because in one of the later episodes, Saddle Row Review, there's a pinkie clone in the background.


I've always had a hunch that Twilight's spell, despite her misgivings, wouldn't have worked on the real Pinkie Pie. The mirror pool clones were nothing but half-aware projections, nothing like the real person.


If I went into the MLP world, I'd just ask Pinkie, "Were you pulled out of the mirror pool?" And is she said yes, I would be having a panic attack while telling every pony the truth.


Maybe when Pinkie said "I dove into the pool" she was referring to the clones or talking in some third person stuff


When I heard that “All the pinkie clones wanted to survive” that actually made me feel bad


I don’t think she killed Pinkie, as it was a friendship test. FRIENDS were on the line.
As far as I’m aware of the clones were more interested in “fun” rather than friends.
If Pinkie really wanted to she could sit still for hours tbh
BUT
Your theory could’ve easily happened in an alternate/parallel universe. In the original universe, the original Pinkie is well and alive. But in the alternate one, Twilight could have accidentally killed the original without realizing it hence the clone living on as the Pinkie we all know and love

Can you choose to be distracted though? What you’re saying is that pinky passed the test because she cared enough about staying with her friends but I’d imagine that the clones don’t want to die either. Since they’re all pinkie pies clones and pinkie pie gets distracted easily, the test was useless and Twilight could have easily killed the original pinkie. But I do think the creators made it so that wasn’t the case and we still have the original pinkie.

No the real one was behind the crowd and the fake one SuRvIvEd cause she trys to stabbotoge them i did not notice that

WRONG SHE WAS AT THE BACK AND TWILIGHT KILLED HER

@Alex it’s affecting us allllll ohh nooo

@Alex it’s affecting us allllll ohh nooo

@HalløweenYT That's why I added "with most cases". Almost everyone I know has this one problem with focusing on tasks, but I know that not everyone has it. Maybe we're just an unlucky bunch.

@Ann Shad ... but thats only the case with some brains, we're all different. i have adhd too and that does happen but I can choose to do something for as long as I can (until my brain says no)

@HalløweenYT The thing with most ADHD cases is that we can' <b>control</b> what we are focusing on. If my brain desides to focus on drying paint, i will sit for hours on end watching it, but if my brain wants to concentrate on birds chirping near me, I will focus on the bird, even if something important depends on watching the paint.

@HalløweenYT The thing with most ADHD cases is that we can' *control* what we are focusing on. If my brain desides to focus on drying paint, i will sit for hours on end watching it, but if my brain wants to concentrate on birds chirping near me, I will focus on the bird, even if something important depends on watching the paint.

I think sign is right Twilight did killed the real pinkie

@aalykitty1408cat again you’re not listening, to think there are over 200 DIFFERENT clones who all are pinky but slightly different, its naive to think that all of them we’re pinky but worse, at least 10 of them could have a better concentration then pinky for example. Sure theres gonna be a lot of them that we’re worse but theoretically seen at least 100 of them would have improvements on pinkie in some areas. Its easy to imagine one of them has less ADHD then pinkie. Making pinkie stare at the wall isn’t a good test for her cause pinkie is the embodiment of ADHD, even if she cared for her friends a lot at some point pinkie is still pinkie and she would need to move. Its like saying to someone with controle issues “if you act controlling one more time we’re not you’re friends anymore” sure the person will keep it up maybe a week but after that its gonna snap one day. Theres no reason to believe that none of the clones was better then pinky at being concentrated.

@aalykitty1408cat yeah thats what I’ve been saying 5 times now, al of the clones are different, so maybe one of the clones actually cared about friendship more then the original pinkie

@aalykitty1408cat also fundamentally seen the tree of harmony isn’t picky at all, if they chose other races then pony’s before theres no way it would mind clones

@aalykitty1408cat thats the point, each one of the pinkies is different and theres over 200, its to be sure one of them was like pinkie and cared about her friends over her own desires

@aalykitty1408cat because as we’ve seen before, the elements of harmony aren’t picky, all of the pinkies we”re the embodiment of joy, if they we’re the real one or not.

Idk look at the test and a sad pinkie was killed

@Slayer Beast  don't worry about it, glad you could learn some stuff though! 😄

@Slayer Beast  my god. There is a lot going on here so I'll take it step by step, maybe then you'll understand. First of all, I am a brown woman, so quit. Second, I did not agree with anyone saying bad things about twilight. I just saw someone mentioning how Pinkie can be, well, Pinkie and sit still for an impressive amount of time at the right moments and a few memories came flooding back in so I decided to chime in. That is literally all that comment said, it was so simple, why couldn't you just leave it like that? Third, this is a children's show about pink and purple and blue and even more different colored magical ponies. Why in the world would I be upset about how one of them looked? Im not an idiot, and I have a life. Additionally, and this ones a shocker, THE ORIGINAL COMMENT SAID THAT THEY DONT THINK TWILIGHT KILLED HER! Bingo. Not that it mattered, but your whole point is built on this singular piece of evidence that proved to be false. I never agreed to either side, and if it did it would not matter. Why? Because its just an innocent comment, with an innocent theory, on an innocent children's show.

For this reason, this will be my last reply, as I don't enjoy feeding you attention.

@Slayer Beast  my god. There is a lot going on here so I'll take it step by step, maybe _then_ you'll understand. First of all, I am a brown woman, so quit. Second, I did not agree with anyone saying bad things about twilight. I just saw someone mentioning how Pinkie can be, well, Pinkie and sit still for an impressive amount of time at the right moments and a few memories came flooding back in so I decided to chime in. That is literally all that comment said, it was so simple, why couldn't you just leave it like that? Third, this is a children's show about pink and purple and blue and even more different colored magical ponies. Why in the world would I be upset about how one of them looked? Im not an idiot, and I have a life. Additionally, and this ones a shocker, THE ORIGINAL COMMENT SAID THAT THEY DONT THINK TWILIGHT KILLED HER! Bingo. Not that it mattered, but your whole point is built on this singular piece of evidence that proved to be false. I never agreed to either side, and if it did it would not matter. Why? Because its just an innocent comment, with an innocent theory, on an innocent children's show.

For this reason, this will be my last reply, as I don't enjoy feeding you attention.

@Slayer Beast  I can just barely understand what your saying as the grammar is not great, but I believe you're arguing. This is a children's show. I do not feel "racist" towards any ponies like Twilight, I was just saying that Pinkie is great for this reason along with others. I never even stated my opinion on Twilight.

"If Pinkie really wanted to she could sit still for hours tbh"<br>This is why I love Pinkie. She can do it all 😂

"If Pinkie really wanted to she could sit still for hours tbh"
This is why I love Pinkie. She can do it all 😂

@Slayer Beast Also it would make sense for the series to put in things like these for purpose, no little child is going to notice the fact that the real pinky was killed but adults are and its going to make adults more interested.

@Slayer Beast look Twilight is a bit of a Mary Sue, I don’t like her either and in the original script she wasn’t cause she never became an alicorn and never got the credit for group projects. On the contrary pinkie pie is one of the most loved characters, one of the most hated characters killing of pinkie of course would get some angry reactions. Besides that this whole theorie of Twilight killing of the real pinkie makes sense if you take into accord that pinkie had an abnormal  amount of magic in a later episode when they got their magic stolen and then got it back. Pinkie just doesn’t make sense, you never know what to expect from her and thats why people like her. Thats also why people don’t like Twilight, Twilight always acts the same and always gets the credit for saving Equestria even when she has done nothing more then her friends did. In my opinion they should have stuck with the original concept of Luna and Celestia being the only alicorns and them being like more godly creatures.

@Slayer Beast even if they are clones, they still killed a lot of them and they are still living creatures so like killing they did anyway

True BUT if there were over 100 clones, whats to say that there wasn’t a single one that did care more for friendship then for fun? After all they are all pinky but with slight differences so one of them might be even MORE interested in friendship then pinkie.

@OfficialCatLoser  I love your warriorcats spottedleaf profile picture! I always use that drawing for inspiration for spottedleaf drawings.

@MissMew x2 Estoy HARTA de que digan que tiene TDHA

um I don't really think those ponies had ADHD, it's just some kind of cartoon of ponies who just think about having fun and that's it

I wouldn’t say “when they want to” since hyperfocus isn’t voluntary. It’s “when the conditions are right,” the perfect amount of mental stimulation so you’re not over- or under-stimulated.

Which is actually a possabillity for a starlight timetravel multiverse.

Yeah and I think the people who made MLP made a mistake

me with adhd but not want to do math homework:

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yeah but the way they worded it makes me think they’re right. she basically made a bunch of ponies with ADHD do the most boring thing ever. people with ADHD HATE being bored. it’s a feeling we cannot stand, and we’re very easily distracted so they very well could be right

I agree as well because it wasn't that long and how could she have gotten all of the memories back besides how could you have known her friends names if it was an actually her

I agree! People with ADHD can focus on one task for HOURS if they truly want to, so that supports your claim.

The Alternate Timeline habit has gotten to you-

The Alternate Timeline habit has gotten to you-


🤯🤔While this video mostly continued to emphasize ONE point (a good one) about why the real Pinkie might have died for 9 minutes, it was still a good topic to discuss and the channel lore with the clones was interesting! I always thought the test in the episode was faulty and the clone decimation harsh. I always assumed the right one was chosen but come to think of it the Pinkie who came up with the plan was acting slightly out of character being mopey and suspiciously more focused than usual! They could have tested the Pinkey sense instead or asked more personalized questions or tested for magic in the clones that was from the pond and NOT the real Pinkie!


Well, I didn't understand much, but, if the clone survived and was the one living in ponyville, then how come the elements of harmony were getting activated with the help of the clone?! I mean, it has to take the original element of laughter to shoot magic rainbow rays, right??


I love how he (Sawtooth) does theories and there's an actual lore/story with his OC.


I actually really like this idea! And I thought of something, to fill in a blank: When the real pinkie got sent to the pool, everything, meaning memories, element, compassion, etc. got transferred to the clone thanks to the pools magic! Btw, the clones are amazing 😁


I bet it was just some editors mistake, But your clone and their clone's intelligence reaches no bounds<br>and their British accent: 10000000000/10

I bet it was just some editors mistake, But your clone and their clone's intelligence reaches no bounds
and their British accent: 10000000000/10

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 honestly not rlly kangaroos can beat tf out of u

@Painting Dreams what happened to larynx the changeling.

@Painting Dreams and kevin's oldest Cousin.

@Painting Dreams larynx is the older sister of both pharynx and thorax.

@Painting Dreams Australian are kangaroo lovers.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 tbh as an aussie i dont think i've actually heard any1 at school use an "aussie accent" and we sound more or less semi-american

@gender_aficionado it's was a more new Zealand accent.

I thought the second one was a poorly done Australian accent lmao-

I don’t think it was a mistake Besides Have you know how many times pinky gets distracted even when danger is on the line!?

Yeah the clone just wanted to live with others but twilight killed her.


As you said, this is entirely reliant on clones gaining the memories of the original. It turns this from plausible to highly unlikely.


One thought kept going through my mind about it all. If you recall the episode "Saddle Row Review", there was a callback to the Mirror Pool episode and you could see an obvious clone Pinkie in the background. Who's to say that was the one that Sunburst came across about the story? Or what if he misread it in one of the chapter entries in the book from "Fame and Misfortune"?

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that the real Pinkie was killed off.


I've always thought that we just switched to the point of view of the clone that Pinkie pulled out of the pool. Or they just did it to show more about the world the clone Pinkies were coming from. I think that the remaining clones, or the ones after the first clone, were just reflections, or a lot of them or most of them were, and those ones that weren't reflections either went back or started their own life, and neither the first clone nor the ones that were't reflections, and a few others, weren't there and instead went out to live their own lives. And that the spell just sent the reflections back, not killed them. Besides, even if it was a clone that survived, the real Pinkie probably just merged with the clone.


Slow down, didn’t we see a surviving clone of Pinkie? It’s what Sine and Sawtooth we’re talking about the first time they really met! Maybe that clone told the story. It’s possible, I’m sure she didn’t want any more clones to go through what she went through(though she probably found a way to escape or just saw what happened and didn’t partake in it.) That’s my theory, tell me if you like it!


Hold on, just looking at this thumbnail, no pinkie clone or real pinkie is dead.  Twilight said she would just “send them back to where they came from”, not “kill them”.


I remember Pinki having a legit profile room where everyone's favourite types of cupcakes are recorded. Perhaps that helped the clone learn her story.

and yes, the sit-and-stare challenge for the clones would have been testing the display of LOYALTY not laughter


This reminds me of the Star Trek transporter problem. If the machine effectively kills you and then rebuilds an identical you on the other side that is impossible to distinguish from the original, and nobody notices the difference, did it really kill you?


There were two instances, one when a Pinkie inflated fingers on her hoof and one where a Pinkie made a G3 Pinkie face. In each case Twilight blasted both the Pinkie who made the commotion and the neigh-bor who glanced over.
So in an incident where Pinkie was guaranteed to glance at the commotion, both ponies were eliminated. Pinkie could have easily been zapped either time.
The only sure way to know you get the right Pinkie Pie is to question each pony one at a time to see who remembers events from before the cloning. Only one has the original memories.


It may have been a clone who told the story of the pool, but it's more likely that the real Pinkie lives in Ponyville while her clone lives abroad and helps out from time to time thus improving Pinkie's prediction and planning abilities.

My theory is that there are two Pinkies because if you pay attention, the first clone ran away

At the end of the episode while pinkie is with her friends, a pinkie clone is at the next table wearing a hat. Chances are THAT pinkie left ponyville, met sunburst, and told him the story.

You have a point because in S6 ep9 the episode "The Saddle Row Review" at 10:44, while Pinkie pie is being interviewed, there is literally a clone sitting in the seat right behind her after she says "Making copies of yourself always sounds like a great idea but before you know it, your sitting in a room full of Pinkie Pie's watching paint dry." Also, in that same episode, there is a pony dancing in the party that looks SUSPICIOUSLY simular to Pinkie pie but have a different cutie mark at 6:55


I'm pretty sure that pinkie we know today is not a clone. In "Finallly solving Pinkie Pie" (your video), you said that when Pinkie took the bewitching bell (with chaos magic), you said that Pinkie couldn't control the magic all at one, so It spread throughout her timeline, past—>present—>future. But if the current pinkie was a clone, then it couldn't spread to before the original Pinkie cloned herself. And I'm pretty sure the memories wouldn't be able to transfer to the clone. Even so, I'm pretty sure the clone couldn't be depressed, since they were all happy and careless when they got out of the mirror pool. But if all of Pinkie's magic and memories died transfer to the clone once she "died", then that could've been possible. But I'm pretty sure it didn't happened, because when twilight killed the original pinkie, she fully got sent to the mirror pool, and there wasnt any blast or laser of magic that transferred to the "clone". If when pinkie got sent to the mirror pool, the chaos magic inside her would be too much for the pool to handle, so it should've released a blast or laser of magic. But it didn't. Because we didnt see it. And you can see all magical things being performed because of the magic aura thing. I <b>THINK</b> that throughout the whole show, theres never been an magical performance that didn't have an aura. Unless you're wrong about the whole theory and I'm wrong.

I'm pretty sure that pinkie we know today is not a clone. In "Finallly solving Pinkie Pie" (your video), you said that when Pinkie took the bewitching bell (with chaos magic), you said that Pinkie couldn't control the magic all at one, so It spread throughout her timeline, past—>present—>future. But if the current pinkie was a clone, then it couldn't spread to before the original Pinkie cloned herself. And I'm pretty sure the memories wouldn't be able to transfer to the clone. Even so, I'm pretty sure the clone couldn't be depressed, since they were all happy and careless when they got out of the mirror pool. But if all of Pinkie's magic and memories died transfer to the clone once she "died", then that could've been possible. But I'm pretty sure it didn't happened, because when twilight killed the original pinkie, she fully got sent to the mirror pool, and there wasnt any blast or laser of magic that transferred to the "clone". If when pinkie got sent to the mirror pool, the chaos magic inside her would be too much for the pool to handle, so it should've released a blast or laser of magic. But it didn't. Because we didnt see it. And you can see all magical things being performed because of the magic aura thing. I *THINK* that throughout the whole show, theres never been an magical performance that didn't have an aura. Unless you're wrong about the whole theory and I'm wrong.


When I watched the episode of the clones and stuff I admit I was confused to why they had a test for Pinkie to watch paint dry, to find the real version of herself. It’s like they were trying to kill her.


The main flaw I see with Sine's theory is the personality of the Pinkie's
If you think about it, throughout the episode, all the Pinkie clones always, and i mean constantly , had a chaotic personality. However, the original Pinkie Pie still had her other emotions, as we saw from the scene where she was sad amidst all the clones screaming "FUN!"
This can also explain how she was relieved at the end of the test. She wasn't screaming or anything, she was just like "I would never get distracted if it meant leaving my friends" or smth like that
Sine's idea of the clones just temporarily not having the original's memories could actually also add onto this counter, as a clone would probably take longer than between its creation and being sent back to be able to feel the same emotions as the original

The main flaw I see with Sine's theory is the personality of the Pinkie's
If you think about it, throughout the episode, all the Pinkie clones always, and i mean *constantly* , had a chaotic personality. However, the original Pinkie Pie still had her other emotions, as we saw from the scene where she was sad amidst all the clones screaming "FUN!"
This can also explain how she was relieved at the _end_ of the test. She wasn't screaming or anything, she was just like "I would never get distracted if it meant leaving my friends" or smth like that
Sine's idea of the clones just temporarily not having the original's memories could actually also add _onto_ this counter, as a clone would probably take longer than between its creation and being sent back to be able to feel the same emotions as the original


I think we're discounting that Pinkie in the disguise, as we discussed in the episode about the Pinkie-Miku lovechild.  If the surviving Pinkie was a clone, aside from keeping herself unknown to the Mane 6, what reason would the other Pinkie have to hide herself from the clone?  If anything, if it was a clone, they would be more active together for whatever reason, as long as the Mane 6 are not involved.


If the real Pinkie has been dead and the one who survived is a clone wouldn’t the clone Pinkie try to get rid of Twilight for killing the real Pinkie or try to revive the real Pinkie?

@Tyquan Cleckley I’m not talking about the real Pinkie

That’s false Pinky would never try to get revenge on twilight She is to Difficult and silly!Twilight I killed the real pinky!?

@Green and Blue the original pinkie was also the sad pinkie we see during the chaos

@Weird  sawtooth will be in trouble if king thorax finds they.

@Weird sawtooth was turn to stone twice.

@Weird sawtooth was turn to stone twice.

It maybe didn’t want to say anything, I mean, would you? After all that’s done, you’ve seen something… traumatic, those who are you be taken from you… how would you tell those ponies “…I’m not the real pinkie.” Because you couldn’t. Their happy to have the “real” pinkie back..

@Rainbow Dragon  WELL she was turned to stone and all thorax's fault.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 What does that have to do with anything?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 What are you talking about?

you know because he is pharynx and ocellus's son.

@Rainbow Dragon  is it because to keep his nephew sawtooth safe from his mean grandmother?

@Rainbow Dragon  then why did thorax go against his own mother chrysalis?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Why? I don’t want to

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Why? I don’t want to

Google why mlp hates changelings and other non ponies.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 What about Google?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 What about Google?

My reason for saying 'no' here is that I see no motive for a clone to <i>care</i> about 'the original Pinkie'. Why would it, any more than the original Pinkie cared about the clones? It has its own life at this point.

My reason for saying 'no' here is that I see no motive for a clone to _care_ about 'the original Pinkie'. Why would it, any more than the original Pinkie cared about the clones? It has its own life at this point.

@Lark Dash  I’m literally just making an assumption

@King Frog there were a lot of dark animations after the episode 😨😱😭😢😭😇🙂😍

The clone doesn't want to be killed so why would it get the real pinkie back...

@Green and Blue No she said a test for something the real pinkie wouldn't want to do cause friends were on the line the real pinkie would be the last one standing or something like that so she didn't know about that she might of thought twilight would teleport them back to the mirror world or if I'm correct they had discord so maybe discord could of put them somewhere a pinkie would like full of fun and candy.But when they were killed pinkie could of also been killed

@felixcuddle maybe because they found it as fun since the real pinkie or to them the higher pinkie said it first if I remember so they one more pinkie said it them the others gabe it a try as none of them wanted to be left out.

@ironfang bigheart I’m just making an assumption here

Most importantly, wouldn't be the town destroyed, and shouldn't she repetitively say "FUN!"

The clone thought it was the real one, and why would she, Twilight would kill her if she told her that she is a clone

But yeah she would know that the real pinky was killed because there’s only her left!

@Xxjelly• m?kenzi3 _ gacha • It’s an assumption

@Xxjelly• m?kenzi3 _ gacha • It’s an assumption

You guys do realise I’m just making an assumption not saying this would be real?

No because every pinkie though they were the real pinkie,and also the one who passed the test

@King Frog That right 🤔 so Twilight won't of even knew

I don't think Pinkie (If a clone) Would try to bring back the real one, as if she did, Twilight might find out it was a clone Pinkie all along, and Twilight basicily would have let the remaining Pinkie live, so I don't think she would try killing Twilight.

@King Frog they were all saying, "I'm the real pinkie!" so even though they weren't, they all had assumed they were

But the supposed real Pinkie was just as on board with killing the clones.

@felixcuddle Yeah I know but I mean it would be interesting if this were the case.

The pinkies didn't even know if they were the original or clones

BUT they all thought they were the real pinkie so..


I think that the true pinkie was still alive because there is no evidence backing up the temporary amnesia statement and one thing not being backed up can ruin an entire theory


Omg I’m so glad you’re still doing g4 theories! G5 is fine, but I grew up with g4 and it will always be my favourite generation!


Sense we’re all already sad this might be the case:<br>Imagine the last pinkie twilight killed was the real pinkie, who thought she might survive to the end. Stressed, yet happy she accidentally gets distracted and is blown up by her “best friend”

Sense we’re all already sad this might be the case:
Imagine the last pinkie twilight killed was the real pinkie, who thought she might survive to the end. Stressed, yet happy she accidentally gets distracted and is blown up by her “best friend”


It looked like her reflection was in it's own world. Perhaps the clones are really just in alternate universes and the mirror pool is a portal? And for the fact they can't remember it could be a simple memory-erasing spell, which comes to the fact that is could wear off, or any clones that come through disappear from their own world, which is terrible.


5:08 The difference is the clone test meant Pinkie's friendships were on the line, and she could lose them forever. She was still happy fighting alongside her friends when the villains attacked. Her friends are the most important thing to her.

But let’s remember, those clones had feelings, their own voices and opinions.<br>Pinkie more or less reminds me of someone with AHAD, all those clones wanted to stay still, they tried too, because that the end of the day, they all wanted to live. Clones or not they still had lives of their own, even if they looked like the party pony we all know.

But let’s remember, those clones had feelings, their own voices and opinions.
Pinkie more or less reminds me of someone with AHAD, all those clones wanted to stay still, they tried too, because that the end of the day, they all wanted to live. Clones or not they still had lives of their own, even if they looked like the party pony we all know.

@MoonbowCraze That's interesting, because my anxiety does the opposite when I'm in danger, my sense and ability to act rationally go right out the window lol. But I DO go full focus when it's other people in danger.

@Hel dude im adhd and go to FULL FOCUS when i feel in dnager (not often) i also have anxiety tho so maybe thats why

@Bessie Burnet I'm not even saying that she has adhd, I'm saying that when someone is easily distractible it doesn't MATTER how motivated they are.

@Hel But remember, the ADHD thing, as much as I agree with it, is just a headcanon. It's nothing confirmed.

And if her friends wouldn't be more important than some bird, frog or balloon flying by than she most definitely wouldn't possess one of the elements of harmony.

But as someone who is very distractible (due to ADHD), that doesn't mean anything. It's not about how important the outcome is. In fact, higher stakes make it HARDER to stay on task...


I’d like to add though that I feel like we can filter out the pinkies who were obviously clones who got bored vs who got distracted. For example the pinkie who noticed the bird=ADHD symptom vs the pinkie who looked away when rainbow tried to distract them. Sooo if we wanted to find potential real pinkies we could 😂


I just wanted to note that the first mirror clone of Pinkie took off looking for fun, she didn't have any of Pinkie's memories and so it may be this was the one survivor that we see appear later.  Her fist memory would be the pool so she'd react to hearing about it later but because she's developed her own life far away from Ponyville there hasn't been any reason for her to be exterminated as the others were.

Also I'd like to point out that even though we seem to be following the viewpoint of the real Pinkie in that episode there was a point where she, herself, wasn't even sure that she was the original.  When she was rounded up with the others into the hall she was depressed and believed she was a clone too, questioning her existence.  As someone who has ADHD and severe depression I can personally say that when you're having a depression episode nothing else matters in the world and you just zone out so when she was told to watch the paint she was zoning out the entire time.  Hence she was surprised at the end when she won.

Temporary amnesia can turn permanent if there's nothing to stimulate that part of the memory so the point that Pinkie practically documented every aspect of her life, was surrounded by friends and family, and lots of other stimuli could possibly be responsible for her remembering things.

Btw, may be there's still a time spell around that you might be able to use to transport yourself back to right after you were turned to stone.  Just avoid any more cocatrises and there shouldn't be any paradox.

Whatever happened to the mythical creatures and the changelings though?  We only see the three pony tribes in MLP Gen. 5 so did they die off when magic disappeared or are they somewhere else entirely cutting off ties again with the ponies?


You know, since that episode years ago I’ve never stopped thinking about if Twilight actually killed the real Pinkie


I don’t think Twi killed our Pinkie based on her reaction and how she made the suggestion in the first place but I am curious how her one interview from the episode where Rarity opens her Canterlot boutique could either support or disprove the theory…

What I mean is was the frustration in her voice regret for even making the clones or frustration watching paint dry is what it took to get the real Pinkie gone? Was the clone behind the sandwich just scared for her own life or was she afraid their cover would be blown by the reporter? What is the motive and reason to stay out of site anyway? And like you said how would a clone gain all the knowledge our Pinkie had and more importantly would the others notice her acting weird even for Pinkie?

I ask this last question since Twi has used time travel before and after the pillars are brought back she could ask Starswirl if there was a way to reverse what happened and bring our Pinkie back since I believe he wrote the time travel spell and has knowledge of these things

Of course we have more logic than the show which was all over the place relied on phrases like 1000 years and constantly mixed up outcomes or rushed the intro of characters just to please fans and quickly end the series on TV (never read a comic so never saw season 10)…the series was still great but has a lot of holes and things it could have done and/or handled better


"The original was killed" implies that Twilight's spell would have killed anypony she cast it on, Mirror Pool or no. Can we talk about that? If that's true, there is an INSTAKILL spell

Maybe it only works on ponies who used the mirror pool?

Why didn't twi just use it when the villains wanna pop up-

Lol imagine if the show didn't end with a battle between the useless without eachother trio and every creature instead the show ended with her friends annoying the useless without eachother trio and insta killed them and see chrysalis ball tirek ball and cozy ball

imagine if twilight actually used the instakill spell on all of her enemies.<br>bro that's a really dark fate for cozy

imagine if twilight actually used the instakill spell on all of her enemies.
bro that's a really dark fate for cozy

I NEVER THOUGHT ABT IT LIKE THAT!!! So she has known an instant kill spell all this time and never used it on her enemies??

They should've used that on the irradeemable trio™


Scenes that play with magic mirrors shift perspective between real and reflection a lot in media. A couple of times in star wars even. For all inents and purposes, the real pinky and the mirror pinky were the same up until the instant one came out of the pool. The way I imagine it works, Pinkie would have had both the memories of jumping in the pool and pulling a pinkie out of the pool. Otherwise just standing near the pool could cause clones to come out. The original pinky survived the event.


Say what you will about Sine and Cosine, but they stayed on track with their narrative. They didn't go off on a tangent.


I'm going to be completely honest, I've always thought Twilight's plan to find the real Pinkie was completely bogus.


But <i>were</i> the clones killed? I always figured that Twilight's magic dispelled the mirror pool's magic and transferred it back to the source, the mirror pool. I haven't watched the episode in a while, but that's been my perception of it ever since I was first watching it...

But _were_ the clones killed? I always figured that Twilight's magic dispelled the mirror pool's magic and transferred it back to the source, the mirror pool. I haven't watched the episode in a while, but that's been my perception of it ever since I was first watching it...

One of the clones did kinda… explode.z not only that but if put into the mirror pool and stuck… well:<br>Ponies can only hold their breaths for so long..

One of the clones did kinda… explode.z not only that but if put into the mirror pool and stuck… well:
Ponies can only hold their breaths for so long..

So chrysalis is gone and thorax misses her because she was his mother.

@Amy B. Wasn't the point of it to gather all the Pinkie's in one place where they'd be sat still? It'd be hard to blast Pinkies that were running about everywhere.

Well, if it didn't actually harm the real Pinkie Pie, then Twilight wouldn't have had to do her test to figure out which one it was. She could've just cast the spell on all of them until one was remaining.

Agree. But what would that reverse magic do to real Pinkie? She's not from the mirror pool, so there's nothing to reverse.


I always end up going months between watching these and forget that oh yeah there's a Storyline Here and slowly re-learn that, start to care about these other characters and then I'm hit in the face with you having been a statue for the rest of their lives and the one vague memory I have of that bubbles to the surface and it feels like I just got punched. I keep forgetting that these videos have story and get emotions. the thinking they must've done alright for themselves, guess we all became statues.. I'm Not going to bingewatch these I'm not going to bingewatch these I'm not going to


If I remember correctly. Weren’t most of the clones just shouting ‘FUN!’ All the time
The clones cared more about having fun than friends
Also, the elements of harmony would’ve probably noticed that Pinkie wasn’t actually friends with the mane 6 if she was a clone right?
I think this is the farthest reach I’ve ever seen for a theory of yours Sawtooth


This sounds like a series we all can enjoy!


How can the real pinkie pie die, and then a clone of her use the element of laughter, when the elements of harmony are strictly binded to a soul until it is time to move on?


Same I was like: SHE WHAT WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN

Why did sawtooth say that thorax was chrysalis's son he was not her son.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Well, normally people would reply to this with things relating to the comment. If you want to express your randomness, just get a notebook and write random things. I have my YouTube notifications on, so everything you send, I see. I’d rather it be related to my comment rather than just pure randomness.

@• simply_deerie •  and represent yourself

@• simply_deerie •  random is they best way to express yourself.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Why have you just been replying to this comment with random things?

@Anika Kanroji ☆{♡}  king thorax will finally apologize for the mess he put his own mother chrysalis in.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I think they just don't like twilight for some reason 😑 I honsetly think it the real pinkie 😁

But mostly for her grandson sawtooth and her granddaughter larynx sawtooth's big sister.

She just wanted what was best for her sons thorax and pharynx.

It's not right what chrysalis did but just wanted what was best for her people.


a year ago i found this video, and understood the concept. Now though, i think that it wouldnt actually have been possible (+ you left out a lot of important information and ignored it by bringing up the idea of twilight losing her reputation , no offense , sine) now, the most important piece of information has not yet found a way to fit into the picture your creating. The elements of harmony. A clone pinkie pie would not have ever had any connections with the elements of harmony and as we have seen in multiple episodes, the elements of harmony are only compatible, and therefor only useful, with the pony they were once connected to. The mane 6. So how could a clone pinkie, who doesnt have any connected memory with the original, be compatible with the necklace? Exactly,, she would not have. STILL its a great theory you made here. What i think the most possible possibility is that since the way twilight decided to round up all of the pinkies, doesnt sit right with me. Sure the original pinkie mightve won the paint staring contest, but i dont think she was alone. They roughly rounded up a bunch of clones. Not at all working with precise measures, making it extremely sus coming from twilight as she- well... would never let the life of her friend who is connected to her on a magical level, depend on such a lazy idea. Now what i think exactly happened, since the mane 6 made it too easy for a clone to escape,  is that well, one or even more pinkie clones werent there at the clone byebye-ification. they were having fun, somewhere else. Also since we see multiple pinkie clones in the future briefly put on screen, it definitely confirms they made their escape. Now whats especially interesting about this case is the bewitching bell incident that happens later on. a lot of theories have been made about that pinkie pie touching that bell, altered multiple timelines but what if, and this is really a what if situation with me making up wild theories, but what if, the bell made all of pinkies still alive clones combining inside of pinkie, altering pinkies memory in some way to make her share memories with the clones, making her have weird memory changes (which is really like pinkie because sometimes she remembers everything and sometimes she remembers nothing) but what i mean by this is, the thing pinkie told sunburst/starlight, mightve been a sloppy mistake with pinkie pies memory. OKAY I KNOW PEOPLE WILL HATE THIS THEORY BECAUSE IT MAKES 0 SENSE BUT JUST HEAR ME OUT. Its very far fetched but whatever its a show about colorful horses, the fact we are making theories about it is already far fetched.


It was shown that the clones were very two dimensional in their thinking, and it showed that the true Pinkie was the only one to consistently have complex emotions and thought. If you’re willing to suggest that a memory transfer was possible, what is to stop the reverse from happening? What if the many many Pinkies who remembered going into the pool’s memories were given to the original? There is also the chance that Pinkie didn’t mention it at all and Twilight told Sunburst by reading about it, and perhaps its documentation was written by a clone. I mean how did the author know that it was possible to send the original into the pool by mistake?


What if the "clone" of Pinky Pie in the saddle row review is the REAL one? Hear me out. Real Pinky was questioning whether she was real or not by the time twilight came up with that test. Perhaps both survived, and real pinky had not been rounded up or had wandered off and been missed. She returns, sees the paint drying contest is over, and another her is interacting with all her friends.

Either one of two things happen from there:
1. Pinky decides she must be the clone and goes off to live her own life, or
2. Pinky knows she's real, but sees her clone so happy with her friends and doesn't have the heart to out her clone and get her disappeared into the mirror pool. Pinky may have even gone back to this clone in private and filled her in on more details and memories until she had enough to actually replace pinky, being able to bond with her friends just as she had, and thus able to do the elementless friendship transformation by then.

I rewatched your video on the pinkie clone saddle review video before commenting this to make sure I wasn't repeating something you came up with.

That would explain why, when questioned, they get the clone's perspective, but the real pinky could have survived.


What is the "real" Pinkie? If the surviving Pinkie has all memories and characteristics of the original with no way to differentiate the two is that not the same as being the original?
Though I think the case for wrongdoing may be stronger here than the Tuvix incident.

What _is_ the "real" Pinkie? If the surviving Pinkie has all memories and characteristics of the original with no way to differentiate the two is that not the same as _being_ the original?
Though I think the case for wrongdoing may be stronger here than the Tuvix incident.


...our pinkie is not the clone. Remember, all the clones ever wanted was to have fun, fun and fun all the time. ITS ALL THEY SAID.

@Allen Holloway In my fanfiction she later changes her identity gets a girlfriend and goes to another world with that girlfriend

@Allen Holloway you are correct that got better over time in integlcne

@Allen Holloway But the time 'pinkie' survived the paint wall, she wouldnt have matured as much as she did, she would probably have said "Was that fun?" Or smth instead

@Allen Holloway what 'evidence'?? the other pinkie could just be that as well, and well sure chaotic pinkie didnt time travel, but if sawtooths theory about her is true the chaos spread into her past, present and future. but hey, we may never know...

@Navita Dashore "discord" and "chaotic pinkie" have even less evidence. Chaotic Pinkie didn't even time travel, and Discord usually has to have some sort of motive. I literally just gave you evidence, and then you countered that with insubstantial claims. What!? I'm very confused.

@Allen Holloway evidence?? And as for the 'clone' part, that may or may not have just been discord, or even chaotic pinkie (S9).

If you recall, at least one clone did survive. In a later episode, a clone was wearing a disguise and clearly afraid she would be found out and killed.

Pretty damn dark, and ALSO, she was definitely not obsessed with fun constantly.

There is already evidence that the clones mature over time, and the "fun, fun, fun" thing was temporary.

If you recall, at least one clone *did* survive. In a later episode, a clone was wearing a disguise and clearly afraid she would be found out and killed.

Pretty damn dark, and ALSO, she was definitely not obsessed with fun constantly.

There is already evidence that the clones mature over time, and the "fun, fun, fun" thing was temporary.

@Minidream yea, i see it this way as well

Mhm, and the entire point of Twilight’s test was that in my view. Twilight’s point was to make the Pinkies do something that would be hard; even Pinkie says that she stayed so long because she couldn’t lose her friends by going to the pool. The point I think was to to test them all on whether they cared more about who would be their friends against having fun. Again, as I see it ^_^


Mlp theory: the magic calamity that you mentioned in the where is twilight episode got me thinking. What if the calamity came from discord? Now hear me out, discord was obviously attached to fluttershy but she was a mortal and would eventually die, knowing Discord he might have wanted to make her immortal like he was but she would obviously refuse so she could die peacefully. Though after she died discord might’ve lost control of his magic due to his grief of losing his very best friend, triggering the magical calamity in harmony magic causing ponies to slowly lose their magic. This subsequently broke the harmony magic restraining the everfree allowing it to spread (which explains why there is still plant life and animals taking care of themselves).<br>On another note what or who is controlling the sun since Luna, Twilight, and Celestia are gone?

Mlp theory: the magic calamity that you mentioned in the where is twilight episode got me thinking. What if the calamity came from discord? Now hear me out, discord was obviously attached to fluttershy but she was a mortal and would eventually die, knowing Discord he might have wanted to make her immortal like he was but she would obviously refuse so she could die peacefully. Though after she died discord might’ve lost control of his magic due to his grief of losing his very best friend, triggering the magical calamity in harmony magic causing ponies to slowly lose their magic. This subsequently broke the harmony magic restraining the everfree allowing it to spread (which explains why there is still plant life and animals taking care of themselves).
On another note what or who is controlling the sun since Luna, Twilight, and Celestia are gone?


Just imagine if the clone pinkies actually came from alternate realities for the same reason, to make clones of themselves only for our Pinkie Pie to be the first one to say the spell.


There's just one problem, the clones clearly don't know anything about pinkies past. They don't have her memories, if they did, she wouldn't have needed to teach them the names of her friends.<br>But in countless episodes, pinky pride for example, we see pinky reflecting on the things she did in the past

There's just one problem, the clones clearly don't know anything about pinkies past. They don't have her memories, if they did, she wouldn't have needed to teach them the names of her friends.
But in countless episodes, pinky pride for example, we see pinky reflecting on the things she did in the past


Even went I watched the Episode Twilight test seem way too easy to fail but beside unknownable quirks of Mirror Madness, I know one test that would work.

Have a test where the Pinkie Pies have to travel to a really far away party with obstacles blocking the ponkies poes. The real Pinkie would move mountains to make sure a Pony was having a good party.


I'd like to think that the clones were just really fragile existences that could be "destroyed" and returned to the pool with a small Laser spell. The clones didn't have their own established minds, just rolled off of fragments of Pinkie's mannerisms. The serious atmosphere of the test and the test itself were more likely just to see who was the most determined. Seeing as the clones had to be taught, the real Pinkie had the most motivation to stay as opposed to the clones who just had basic survival instincts. The thing with Sunburst was more of a fluke. I don't know how much Pinkie described her experiences, so there might have been misunderstandings. That, and I can't see Twilight straight up murdering sentients that easily, unless she knew that the clones were not conscious of themselves enough to go beyond their instincts and teachings. I think Twilight had all that in mind off screen and has gone for the Test with that in mind. Cartoony logic made it so the real Pinkie was the last, she could've been discovered on the very first second due to a fluke, where she would've gotten a minor bruise at best. Like I said, I think clones are fragile like that (mostly due to the purely magical nature of the pool). That were my thoughts on the matter, I hope it's a good supplemental ^^'.

Edit: I can see Twilight making up an extremely (sorta) complicated plan to take out the clones systemetically by using/testing the deepness of their motivation. More of a character based argument than a factual one, I know.

@Ziggy the catch of the spell said that she could send the real one back my mistake

@Hi I’m Luna This will sound like an excuse, but I did my theory under the assumption that magic in MLP makes some amount of sense. Where would a specific mirror pool return spell even come from if the mirror pool creates clones out of magic (I refuse to believe that magic just creates matter out of nothing or that all components for a pony body are close to the mirror pool to transfigure them into a pony, so yeah, magical, fragile reconstructions of the body that went into the mirror pool it is) and you could just zap them with a simple magical attack which we have seen can deconstruct another magical attack (beams that are constantly firing at each other yet somehow dissolve into nothing, depending on what you have seen I can give examples), so that the magical clones dissolve or pop. I hope I brought my viewpoint across good enough ^^'

@JF_ kein_K i mean It’s a possibility, since I remember her saying you can blast the real none clone pony in there and basically lose them forever, and thats what raised the stakes by like 100x

@aalykitty1408cat It was mostly because the clones didn't develop these values yet and couldn't feel friendship like the original does, because they didn't have these bonding experiences that the real Pinkie Pie had.

I don’t think Twilight zap could kill the real Pinkie because if that is the truth, won’t their be more murderous organization in Equestria
And the element of Harmony only work if all the users are correct so I don’t think Pinkie was killed
I agree with you

@Infinite 2000 I think s/he meant that clones will pop or explode once they are hit by the laser-like spell (or I think is just a normal magical attack of every unicorns and alicorns), and the real one will be hurt and collapsed just like what usually happen when they fight changelings.

I like your theory/explanation the best. ^^

Plus, I don't think the real/original Pinkie Pie would of blown up into a balloon up and poofed like how the clones did while returning to the mirror pool; at least, I hope she wouldn't. The clones were made by the magic of the mirror pool, so it makes sense that it probably wouldn't take much for their physical forms to, well, burst after that spell Twilight cast was shot at them.

I believe our Pinkie Pie is the real one because she was truly determined to not fail the test, she can get pretty 'serious' when she's focused on achieving something (Ex:Like her going to Yakyakistan just for Prince Ruthford in Party Pooped), and she didn't want to lose everything she loved (Friends, family, future fun, etc.); plus, the whole learning and memory thing Sawtooth pointed out is a big hole in Sine's theory.

This idea does make Twilights plan way less horrible and the spell she used makes sense that way. <br>Otherwise she could have just zapped every villain into the mirror pool.

This idea does make Twilights plan way less horrible and the spell she used makes sense that way.
Otherwise she could have just zapped every villain into the mirror pool.

I'm adding that Twilight wanted to be really systematic about it. Plus, I already mentioned that Twilight could've gotten the real Pinkie Pie first try, Cartoon Logic just said that it had to be the last.

@Infinite 2000 She didn't exactly want to zap the real Pinkie Pie. That and Twilight overcomplicating stuff. That's what I think at least. I'll think more on it however.

If that was the case then Twilight would've just zapped them one by one until she found the real Pinkie and didn't have to force all of the clones to sit and stare at a drying paint

That makes a lot of sense and I think you might be correct.


What if the Pinkie Pie in the trench coat in "Saddle Row Review" is the real Pinkie Pie?  She some how returned and kept out of the public eye.  Or, maybe the surviving clone felt bad about what happened and figured out how to bring the real Pinkie Pie back. They had a cordial parting of ways and sometimes traded places.  I still think the real Pinkie Pie survived, but watching paint dry was a flawed test.  A better test would be to quiz them on things only the real Pinkie Pie would know that she wouldn't have time to teach them.  Like "How did Rarity get rid of the parasprites?"  How many clones would that question filter out?  I still don't like the clones being killed.  There had to be another way of dealing with them.


The truth is that we could never know whether or not the Pinkie Pie left is the real one or not because they could lie and might not remember anything previously of Pinkie Pie’s memory and make up things said by others.


She was able to use her element of harmony and the one in saddle row review could’ve been a clone and Sunburst might have met her first or she spread the story or something


It's a kids show! How much is there to think about? HAhahaahaha. I am really impressed of how much little details you have noticed, and how your brain works its magic into those video's! Please keep going!

Although... There is this 1 episode in the series I never really understood. The revenge of Crysalis to Starlight Glimmer. She created the main 6 out of trees, for what exactly? Not one thing of her plan worked to get revenge on Starlight. She wanted to use the wooden 6 to have power over the elements of harmony, but they never succeeded. But what if they had? Then what? What would be her plan to hit Starlight? For what part of her plan would she need the elemants of harmony?

It seems more logic to me that she would only seek the elements of harmony to be the new ruler of equestria, and however the fact of Crysalis now ruling Equestria and eating all the love out of it would hurt Starlight, I think it really isn't a personal revenge to Starlight, but to all of Equestria.

So what would her real plan of revenge be?

At the end of the episode "To where and back again 2" She said that there was no plan Starlight could emagine that would even come close to what she would do to her. And when the actual episode of Crysalis' revenge came, it didn't seem that horrible to me...

does someone have an explanation for my questions? It does not matter how long it might be. I just want to understand this. Lol.


I’m guessing it wasn’t a clone since pinkie was able to use her necklace in later seasons, because if it were a clone she wouldn’t be able to use the element of harmony but I love the theory as always


well i never thought about this before, when i watched the episode, there was no doubt. i think the best way to know is the "ground poking pinkie pie is" because she is the only sus, and she said that she commited that she cloned her self and also about not leaving her friends but im not of the theory expert but i think the real pinkie pie dont want to leave her friends so she focused her self to avoid distraction so i think the pinkie pie showed in the entire series is real.


wow, this theory broke my head, now I kept thinking about all the possibilities, it is also interesting how you did it to travel to the future of g5, I honestly think you are a genius.