It's an interesting theory but the spell twilight uses to get rid of the pinkie clones didn't kill them, as you point out the clones walk out of the mirror pool, the spell just sends the clones back to where they came from, although if you consider Twilight may have send the real pinkie to a mirror universe then we got something


How would clone pinkie use the elements of harmony? In theory the magic in the element would not activate unless it is the original wearer. If not cloning must have been tried to steal and use the elements of harmony. Magic knows the truth and it would not activate for the non original wearer.


Have we forgotten about the scene during the interview where another Pinkie Pie was found in the background? It's possible that Sunburst met that Pinkie first, and got the story from them. Additionally, it should be mentioned that, despite her tendency to get distracted, when a problem affects her and her values <i>directly,</i> she tends to hyperfocus on said task, especially if said thing has negatively affected her emotional state, like the surprise party episode where she thought her friends were turning on her, and her interactions with Cranky Doodle.

Have we forgotten about the scene during the interview where another Pinkie Pie was found in the background? It's possible that Sunburst met that Pinkie first, and got the story from them. Additionally, it should be mentioned that, despite her tendency to get distracted, when a problem affects her and her values _directly,_ she tends to hyperfocus on said task, especially if said thing has negatively affected her emotional state, like the surprise party episode where she thought her friends were turning on her, and her interactions with Cranky Doodle.

And her secret party planning Cave and given that the clones only learnt after being taught they wouldn't know about it unless pinke taught them

Yes, and if she is ADHD, hyperfocus would make sense.


Part of me wants to say, the pinkie clone seen in Manhattan may be the real pinkie pie, what if she realised how bad the situation was and left when the clones got out of hand.


It just seems to me like Pinkie wouldn't have been very specific, just saying she made clones at the mirror pool, and the others assumed she did so by diving in. Doesn't she refer to what she did in the episode itself?


I think the “og” pinkie (the one before the mirror pool episode) WAS the clone. If you remember, pinkie dove into the pool. (Which you specified that anyone who dives into the pool is a clone) so I think the clone pinkie crossed universes with the og one


Recall, if you will, that the surviving Pinkie was severely depressed during the second half of that episode. All the other Pinkies showed only the most basic form of the original's personality, the hyper bouncing around and chorus of <b>"FUN!!!",</b> As is a clone's nature. They barely showed signs of sentience, let alone the sapience required to feel such remorse as to question one's own identity. As to why Sunburst got it wrong, perhaps Pinkie did not go into detail, but instead simply repeated the rhyme, believing that to be explanation enough, and since no other pony is known to have used the mirror pool besides Pinkie and possibly the original royal guards if we go with that theory, and Pinkie has shown us how dangerous it can be, there has been no further research, and only the original pinky knows the truth.

Recall, if you will, that the surviving Pinkie was severely depressed during the second half of that episode. All the other Pinkies showed only the most basic form of the original's personality, the hyper bouncing around and chorus of *"FUN!!!",* As is a clone's nature. They barely showed signs of sentience, let alone the sapience required to feel such remorse as to question one's own identity. As to why Sunburst got it wrong, perhaps Pinkie did not go into detail, but instead simply repeated the rhyme, believing that to be explanation enough, and since no other pony is known to have used the mirror pool besides Pinkie and possibly the original royal guards if we go with that theory, and Pinkie has shown us how dangerous it can be, there has been no further research, and only the original pinky knows the truth.


Big flaw in this thing:

The spell used to remove the Clone Pinkies was not killing them, but merely returning their essence to the pool! Striking a Pinkie with the spell, reverted it to its purest form; magic! The mirror pool is magic by nature. Therefore, regardless if the mirror pool is a gateway to a parallel universe, or simply a magic pool of water, had Twillght struck the original Pinkie, nothing would have happened, as the OG Pinkie is a denizen of this world, which the spell would detect!

@Challenging Armadillo Pretty much the same reason as if you make 100 cakes that all look the same except for one is poisoned. You wouldn’t want to take a bite from all those cakes

@xxx xxx It may actually have been useless. Coupled with the OG Pinkie being the only one in the room completely depressed, and Twilight and her friends not having a better idea, than to have them all sit and watch paint dry, who is to say the test wasn't a total fluke and Twilight didn't just get lucky?

@Challenging Armadillo Well, Twilight and her friends couldn't really tell, which pinkie was which! And, let's be real here:

a) The test of watching paint dry wasn't reliable, as any Pinkie (even the OG) is easily distracted.

b) Rainbow bringing in the only Pinkie, that was absolutely depressed was practically a dead giveaway.

c) MLP:FIM is a kid's show by nature, so the creators had to put in something that would be more in the child's way of viewing things.

Watch the episode again. As the spell cast had warned that it could destroy the original.

Then why was there the need to filter out the Pinkie’s? Why couldn’t she just hit all of the Pinkie’s with the spell until one of them managed to not poof away? Since there was the need to filter out the clones, that meant Twilight either knew or highly suspected that the OG Pinkie could be wrongfully sent to the Mirror Pool with the spell.


I think we saw in the saddle row review at least one Pinkie clone survived. And she was wearing a reporter hat. Maybe she published her experience and THAT'S where Starlight and Sunburst are basing their knowledge?🤷♂


During the episode, the original pinky pie became sad, and in the room with all the clones to watch paint dry, the only sad one was the one that survived. Therefore it must've been the original pinky. (I'm mainly pointing this out because otherwise it'll ruin my childhood)


There's still something to be addressed

What happened to spike?
Did he leave to the dragon lands after twilight's death?
Is he still alive?

What happened to celestia and Luna?
They were alicorns are they still alive?

Where are all the other species
Changelings ox buffalo Griffin's etc


This is not true cause the elements of harmony are draw to the original ponies and if it's a clone the element of laughter wouldn't work


I'd like to point something out. In the episode where Rarity opened up her boutique in Manehattan (forgot the name of it ^^'), it was established that there's another Pinkie clone that lives out in the wild. What if Sunburst heard the story from that Pinkie? The clones, though a bit more one-track minded, all had a similar personality and energy to the original, so he might not have noticed anything wrong.

Sine was right about the perspective change though. If you look at the background and then compare it to where Sunburst and Starlight entered, it matches the perspective of the Pinkie that didn't go in.

@HazyMazyEdits we're aware that it was probably just a gag the writers/animators put in, but we're trying to think of in-universe explanations

(No hate) I think In that episode, they might have just put in that small detail of the clone pinkie, as just a joke. Like a small joke for kids to laugh at. Because let’s be real when I watched it when I was little, I never really thought “what if Twilight killed the real pinkie!” Because I knew that she was the real pinkie, I mean of course they are going to make the real pinkie win. I mean that’s what I thought of as a kid. But I guess it’s a cool think to theorise about :)

Glad to know I'm not the only person who thought of this! Even if the Pinkie clone is trying to keep on the down-low, it's possible she is still recognized from time to time. If someone asked the clone about the mirror pool incident, she might give the "diving into the pool" story. Both versions of the story could even be floating around.

@Ares  I’m trash lol Sine and Sawtooth are an exception, clones are usually completely identical, cutie marks included

Yes but if you looks at her cute mark and you will know the differences


It’s canon that they weren’t able to round up all the clones (in the episode “The Saddle Row Review” a clone pinkie is spotted sitting behind the “real” Pinkie). So, you have to take into account that at some point Sunburst could’ve talked to a clone, but not realized it.


I have always thought the real pinkie pie is stuck in the pool's dimension, while the clones really did get killed once they touched the water's surface from twilight's spell. I also find this idea totally dreadful.....who says the mirror pool isnt a dimension where time is non progressing.....??  I just can't help but imagine pinkie pie with flat hair and totally depressed that she made the mistake and lost everything she cares about!! that episode REALLY messed me up....i had to stop binge watching for a full year. :(


Nah, I think the real Pinkie survived.  There's no established lore that memories transfer between clones, and I highly doubt Dave Polsky or anyone at Hasbro or DHX intended for there to be any doubt that the real Pinkie lived on.  The episode actually somewhat reminds me of an Are You Afraid of the Dark episode, which I also somehow doubt is the original such story, but FiM's take on the concept has a happier ending, and I think it's supposed to be taken as such.


This might sound a bit crazy, but what if Sawtooth’s “accidental” chicken encounter was a set up?


Your forgetting the clone that DID live on in the show. Go back and watch the saddle row review. After one of pinkies interviews we see a clone of her sitting in the both next to hers. She could have told starlight this.

^ This exactly! If at least two versions of Pinkie occupy the same region, that's two different perspectives which Starlight could be influenced by.


If we’ve been following a pinkie clone since season 3 wouldn’t the tree of harmony know she’s a fake and revoke her element of laughter status thus denying her access to the rainbow power? Also wouldn’t her family know she’s not the real one?

The tree is smart- I think it’d recognize that the real pinky is gone and that this is their only option atm.


I always felt like this "test" twilight performed was way too cruel and too risky

And the test doesn't really make sense, how does staring at a wall corelate with how much you love your friends? And if the original pinkie has all the memories, why not to a quiz or interview instead????


I have a theory...

When Twilight came out of the portal, Pinkie Pie correctly guessed everything that Twilight did when she was a human. How did she know all of that? Perhaps this wasn't the real Pinkie! What if the human Pinkie went through the portal and took the real Pinkie's place? That's just my theory though!


Great theory as always though they could have also got the idea of cloning from a book or myth just like pinkie did. Right?


I'm not sure, the one living now is the clone, because, don't the elements of harmony know who the real ponies are?
And besides, Sunburst could get wrong, or Pinkie could just want to tell another story.

Or, pinkie, just seems to keep up with things so much, even which others can't, so is it possible that she knew how the clones came out?

@That One Wasp At Your Picnic It's almost like the working of rumours

Plus, Sunburst WASN'T there. He wasn't in the room where it happened (pun not intended), he is just hearing what Starlight told him, who probably heard it from Twilight or Pinkie herself.


You said at the beginning that one clone ran off, plus we know a clone survived because it was seen behind Pinkie during the interview for Rarity's new shop. Sunburst did hear the story from a clone but the original didn't die. When that's my thoughts what do you think?


The point about Sunburst seeming to have heard about the cloning process from the wrong side is interesting, but I think we still don't have enough information to do more than speculate. The questionable test has always implied it's statistically unlikely that they retained the original Pinkie; the apparently consistent low quality of the cloning has always implied that they did manage to pick out the Pinkie they were looking for. We really don't know enough to reconcile that conflict.


Sine, I have something to say to you... OBJECTION!

Sine makes an interesting, and compelling argument, if it weren't for one flaw in his theory... Allow me to poke a hole in his theory:

Were she really to kill Pinkie Pie in the first place, the real one that is, slams hands on table Phoenix Wright Style how do we know it was really the only way or not!?

It would be impossible to tell either way due to what Sine said about Clones simply lying!!! That means, the only other way WAS the Friendship Test!!! Let's say Twilight really did kill The Original Pinkie Pie, the Real, Original Pinkie Pie. That just means Twilight's Action would have been a mistake, justified of her being Banished from Equestria or not. Even if there was no way to get The Real Pinkie Pie Back, due to her being "killed", let's assume the following: Perhaps she was killed, or maybe she was actually sent back into the Mirror Pool with The Other Clones! The only other way out would be for The Clone of Pinkie Pie going in to rescue her, and we all know that's not happening, since Clones have the capability to Think, Plan, Plan Ahead, and Make Distractions.

This can mean one of two things: The Real Pinkie actually DID get distracted, and went back to The Mirror Pool and got trapped, or possibly even killed in this regard. Or, perhaps, the Real Pinkie Pie valued her friendship and didn't want make the mistake of valuing her friendship too little, as a Friendship Test.

What we do know is that it was one of the two possibilities: If it truly were the clone who survived, even Sine could be making the whole story up as well! Perhaps HE'S the one who set it up after being cloned, and went on to immediately plan ahead and trap or even kill Pinkie Pie in there in the first place!!! Making the whole episode before the Episode happened between the Previous and Current Episode an Accident, or even Look Like one, making SINE the Culprit of Framed Murder: The Clones KNEW they were trapped in there until someone arrived so they could crawl out on their own...! It was the Original by being there which allowed them to crawl out in the first place! Who's to say whether or not they can crawl out on their own without the original being there in the first place at all? It could all have been a slip of the tongue by whoever mentioned it, as seen previously in the Mirror Pool episode! That Hole BLOWS WIDE OPEN his whole theory apart!!!

Whether or not the whole episode were actually an accident or not, the point is, planned murder or not, it could have been a mistake that stemmed from a slip of the tongue, or an accidental murder that Twilight had to live with, or that she trapped her in the mirror pool by honest mistake.

My point being, friends don't always make mistakes on accident. Maybe that was from the clone, but it proves an interesting argument as well. Clone against Clone, argument or not, it proves one thing beyond a doubt:

THE REAL PINKIE PIE IS STILL ALIVE!!!

Sine, I have something to say to you... _OBJECTION!_

Sine makes an interesting, and compelling argument, if it weren't for one flaw in his theory... Allow me to poke a hole in his theory:

Were she really to kill Pinkie Pie in the first place, the real one that is, *slams hands on table Phoenix Wright Style* how do we know it was really the only way or not!?

It would be impossible to tell either way due to what Sine said about Clones simply lying!!! That means, the only other way WAS the Friendship Test!!! Let's say Twilight _really did_ kill The Original Pinkie Pie, the _Real,_ Original Pinkie Pie. That just means Twilight's Action would have been a mistake, justified of her being Banished from Equestria or not. Even if there was no way to get The Real Pinkie Pie Back, due to her being "killed", let's assume the following: Perhaps she was killed, or maybe she was actually sent back into the Mirror Pool with The Other Clones! The only other way out would be for The Clone of Pinkie Pie going in to rescue her, and we all know that's not happening, since Clones have the capability to Think, Plan, Plan Ahead, and Make Distractions.

This can mean one of two things: The Real Pinkie actually _DID_ get distracted, and went back to The Mirror Pool and got trapped, or possibly even killed in this regard. Or, perhaps, the Real Pinkie Pie valued her friendship and didn't want make the mistake of valuing her friendship too little, as a Friendship Test.

What we do know is that it was one of the two possibilities: If it truly were the clone who survived, even Sine could be making the whole story up as well! Perhaps HE'S the one who set it up after being cloned, and went on to immediately plan ahead and trap or even _kill_ Pinkie Pie in there in the first place!!! Making the whole episode before the Episode happened between the Previous and Current Episode an Accident, or even Look Like one, making SINE the Culprit of Framed Murder: The Clones KNEW they were trapped in there until someone arrived so they _could_ crawl out on their own...! It was the Original by being there which allowed them to _crawl out_ in the first place! Who's to say whether or not they can crawl out on their own without the original being there in the first place at all? It could all have been a slip of the tongue by whoever mentioned it, as seen previously in the Mirror Pool episode! That Hole BLOWS WIDE OPEN his whole theory apart!!!

Whether or not the whole episode were actually an accident or not, the point is, planned murder or not, it could have been a mistake that stemmed from a slip of the tongue, or an accidental murder that Twilight had to live with, or that she trapped her in the mirror pool by honest mistake.

My point being, friends don't always make mistakes on accident. Maybe that was from the clone, but it proves an interesting argument as well. Clone against Clone, argument or not, it proves one thing beyond a doubt:

THE REAL PINKIE PIE IS STILL ALIVE!!!


The real Pinkie is alive and well.  The spell exploded the clones, and then there watery essence went back to the magic it came from.  If Twilight had hit the real Pinkie with that spell, it would have been rather bloody with solid parts of Pinkie guts floating in the mess.


4:30 Actually, we know that Pinkie Pie have a whole basement dedicated to make parties for her friends, and there were at least the date of anniversary of each of them, so why not more details about the parties themselves, or even a diary ?
Knowledge can hardly be used as a proof, especially in Pinkie Pie's case as any abnormal behevior from her would be passed off as "Just Pinkie being her usual self".

If Twilight test was like How Pinkie plows through everything to make a party right like in Party Pooped, i could see the real Pinkie going that far and crazy. The Great Ponkie Pie Race!


It's a cute theory, and one that could have brought Tyrant Sparkle down, if it had been known before she ascended to the throne and became an absolute monarch, but until Sine can prove that a clone got Pinkie's memories there remains an element of reasonable doubt, so the case remains unproven. QE has not achieved D.


First off. All it "proves" is that at least one clone might... MIGHT have survived. For all we know the memories of the clones transferred to PinkiePie like the shadow-clones in Naruto transfer their memories to the original. As such, Pinkie, who does get confused sometimes, would remember hundreds if not thousands of "going into the water and coming out of it" memories... but only a few "pulled another out of the water" memories. It might get confusing.

Also, Twilight's spell sent the... energy? (it's unclear) back to the pool. There is no reason or evidence it could have done this to somepony that was never created by the pool in the first place.

And then there's the chance that Pinkie tries to deliberately sabotage other's efforts to create another clone mess and thus lied without even realizing that it was what the clones experienced.

A question comes to mind... how do we know that all of the clones got rounded up. It's not like this thing hasn't happened before and they overlooked a few... AKA, Swarm of the Century. Wherein they successfully moved the Parasprites out of Ponyville, but unbeknownst to them Fluttershy kept a few, rendering their efforts moot.

I sometimes like to believe that the whole watching-paint-dry thing was to punish Pinkie with an otherwise unnecessary staring-contest.

The simplest answer, IMO, is also the most likely.

Starlight talked to a clone, not realizing that it was a clone, got the misinformation from her, then passed the information on to Sunburst.


It’s also possible that the original Pinkie was seen in the episode where Rarity opened a boutique in Manehatten. With so many clones, she may have gotten overwhelmed and left Ponyville to start a new life there- just a thought I had while watching this.


Not taking in account that the spell was meant to dissolve only clones? And this was more twilight testing pinkie.

I really highly doubt unicorns can learn a kill spell that easily.


Literally whenever when Sawtooth Wave posts videos for us they makes everyone's day or night even better!


Actually when I first saw that episode with the pinkie pie incident I was like wondering the question to find if it was the real pinkie pie now I’m just like terrified even more than I was before when I saw the episode


What if during the Pinkie apocalypse, one of the clones told Twilight how she came to be and when the real Pinkie Pie was found Pinkie wasn't asked the question on how the mirror pool worked so she couldn't correct it.  But I think if Twilight did accidentally kill Pinkie Pie, I think  the reaction to the spell would've been different. Maybe blood would appear.


Point of clarification: Nobody died. Twilight didn't "kill" any of the clones. They were sent back to the pool to return from whence they came. At worst the original Pinkie just traded places with a clone. Although to be fair, the spell that sent them back to the pool looks like it was excruciatingly painful. So it was cruel, but not "murder" cruel.


Kind of reminds me of the time Riker from Star Trek New Generation killed their clones despite the fact they are obviously sentient beings. Lol. Then they want to go on about android rights in later episodes. The Federation was not as rosy as people believe and condoned murder if it suited their needs.


There's definitely a good possibility. Remember the clone we saw later, hiding for fear of being killed? Either a clone escaped, or that was the real Pinkie, run away for fear of being accused to be one.

Sure, most of the clones just cloned one small part of her personality in Too Many Pinkie Pies, but that doesn't mean other personality traits couldn't be cloned, and that depressed Pinkie was also a clone with an existential crisis. And if I was the real Pinkie, and I saw the test Twilight set up for me, I wouldn't be that confident to pass it, even as the real one.

And clones definitely can develop a more complex personality, given that clone we see later definitely not acting like the Pinkie clones at the start.


Wait... the one other MAJOR difference if the Tree of Harmony KNEW that the original Pinkie Pie has been accidentally killed by Twilight, wouldn't the Tree of Harmony later on could have known OR not known that the wandering clone has no magical ties with the actual Tree? Or could the Tree of Harmony couldn't tell the difference of the original pony.

Although throughout the episode, we all see how the 'original Pinkie Pie' is far more different, being lost in a crowd of clones of the original, looking sad, lonely, or the desperation, despite of almost closing to the episode, the clones that were sent back to the mirror pool is also reflecting the magic back to the original Pinkie Pie that casted the enchanted words. No pony didn't actually see the magic RETURNING back to the original Pinkie Pie?

Kind of hurting my head since it's pretty confusing, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about and I would like to hear your thoughts.


i don't remember much about the details, but it's not unlikely the documented cases of the mirror pool were from the account of clones, so when researching the pool it could be very easy to get that detail wrong, i don't think Pinky died, i do think the test was horribly cruel and ablest though


2:44 underrated pun

Also to be fair, Starlight's knowledge of the mirror pool was probably from Twilight, which she told to Sunburst who just repeated it back to her. So his account was like, a third-hand account


To the people saying "well the clones only cared about fun and our Pinkie cares about more than that": people can grow and change, and it's possible a clone could gain a more rounded personality over time. The clones in the episode REALLY weren't around all that long (only a couple hours, if I remember correctly). Even just a few weeks out in the world could help build a clone's personality, worldviews, relationships, sense of self, etc. Especially since her survival probably hinges on not obviously being a clone, it's not a stretch to think that a longer-lived clone is not just fun-obsessed and could have a more developed personality.
I don't even necessarily think that the "main" Pinkie in the rest of the show is a clone, but that argument is not a super strong one.

(I said this in a reply already, but I think it's possible that there are TWO accounts of the events at the mirror-pool floating around out there. There is at least one remaining Pinkie clone. Even if she's trying to keep a low profile, it's possible she is still recognized from time to time. If someone asked the clone about the mirror pool incident, she might give the "diving into the pool" story. Sunburst just happened to hear that version rather than the original Pinkie's version.)

To the people saying "well the clones only cared about fun and our Pinkie cares about more than that": people can grow and change, and it's possible a clone could gain a more rounded personality over time. The clones in the episode REALLY weren't around all that long (only a couple hours, if I remember correctly). Even just a few weeks out in the world could help build a clone's personality, worldviews, relationships, sense of self, etc. Especially since her survival probably hinges on not obviously being a clone, it's not a stretch to think that a longer-lived clone is not just fun-obsessed and could have a more developed personality.
I don't even necessarily think that the "main" Pinkie in the rest of the show *is* a clone, but that argument is not a super strong one.

(I said this in a reply already, but I think it's possible that there are TWO accounts of the events at the mirror-pool floating around out there. There is at least one remaining Pinkie clone. Even if she's trying to keep a low profile, it's possible she is still recognized from time to time. If someone asked the clone about the mirror pool incident, she might give the "diving into the pool" story. Sunburst just happened to hear that version rather than the original Pinkie's version.)


Honestly, your accent game IS ON POINT!
I like what you are doing with this...
It is exactly the kind of nonsensical nonsense that makes me chuckle c:


I can probably debunk (or at least… expand?) this entire theory with one scene in season 6, episode 9. So the question is once again: "which Pinkie did he ask that question to?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDdDxZm6r2k


Also can you make a video if Sunny is a descendant of Twilight.
Since she gave up all her magic, she MUST'VE become an earth pony, and therefore, going down to Sunny, and the family have been passing down the story from generation to generation, since they know that Twilight's reign was real, based on the bloodline. Do you mind making this one of your explanations.
Also Sunny's father looks a bit like Twilight... suspicious...


For the last part of the video, i think every pony some how was statues, or most of them. In G5 those magic crystals, I think the crystals ARE twilight.


If we consider that this is a string theory, a universe in which they can share infinite worlds with infinite Pinkie Pies, then each Pinkie would then be an Original from her own world. Therefore, when we see Pinkie1 step through the pool she crosses into a new world with a new Pinkie, Pinkie 2 who is the Original Pinkie of THAT world(world2). This is why I believe that we not only change perspectives of Pinkie1 to Pinkie2, but also change from world1 to world2. So every episode before this episode took place in a different dimension. Pinkie Rick and Morty'd the whole original dimension by stepping through the pool.

Also, thanks to Twilight, there are now a few dozen worlds without any Pinkie Pie...

Also, just want to point out that Pinkie is both older and way cooler than Rick or Morty.  She probably inspired that whole show tbh.

@Mandymom I would like to believe this to be true. Hopefully each Pinkie soul found a nice home.

Orrrrr…Twilight was returning the Pinkie’s to their original dimensions? They go back into the mirror pool after all.


I think this is a little far fetched because there has been more ponies then just pinkie that have cloned them selves before her, so there could just be a story/well-known fact that you get pulled out of the pool.<br>-P.S. no hate

I think this is a little far fetched because there has been more ponies then just pinkie that have cloned them selves before her, so there could just be a story/well-known fact that you get pulled out of the pool.
-P.S. no hate


But the Mirror Pool is another legend, so ways of finding the Mirror Pool and how it goes about would be changed over time, as legends typically are. So maybe in some versions Sunburst heard, the ponies wanting a clone jump through. Also, Sunburst never said anything about the rhyme, so again in some cases maybe there isn't an incantation to recite? But yeah I'm with Sawtooth on this.


I am sure the speculation is a thrilling and fun in deducing everything. However, canon she is alive and can use the spirit of harmony. Clones would be unable to that.


I like how your clones are British. It makes their voices stand out a bit more


It’s entirely possible that Pinkie didn’t tell anyone the story and they were just paraphrasing what they learned from the legend and applied it to Pinkie.

Also if the Pinkie is a clone, maybe that clone from the episode with Pacific Glow could also be the real Pinkie (when Pinkie grabbed the stack of pancakes and exposed the other Pinkie).


The video never explain the original Pinky's element of laughter, it was assigned for the original Pinkie pie it would not work on a clone because it wasn't assigned to the Clone.<br>So the question is if Pinkie Pie after the mirror pool incident is indeed a clone how can she use the element of laughter? The answer is it's not a clone it's the original Pinkie Pie.

The video never explain the original Pinky's element of laughter, it was assigned for the original Pinkie pie it would not work on a clone because it wasn't assigned to the Clone.
So the question is if Pinkie Pie after the mirror pool incident is indeed a clone how can she use the element of laughter? The answer is it's not a clone it's the original Pinkie Pie.


Kind of funny how Sawtooth switches from thinking Twilight is good and thinking she is bad.


I don't think the writers would go that dark.


Here's the thing about it though is that when we were talking about clones versus the elements of harmony when Chrisyliss made the Copies of the main 6 they were technically evil versions of the 6 as clones but because they weren't originals they still didn't have the magic so idk but in my opinion the other clones wouldn't either regardless of if they were good or evil because they weren't the true pinky (again opinion)


Although what he said made little sense I still don't believe Twilight could make such a mistake


I think everyone, including writers of the episode with Sunburst and Starlight, just got confused by what the camera movements in the pool meant.


That is a interesting theory but I agree if she remembers her whole family and life. Well the clones needed direction and teaching I would say the original survived. Yes Twi went a little bit to far with such a  severe test. Now thinking back I think the real Pinkie understood that this was exspeshily important so she could see her family again and be with her friends. Also don't forget from my investigation and poking around I think 2 clones got away. So who knows there could be other clones of Pinkie that left before Twi and her friends gathered them all up. We know one was at her interview for Raritys new store. The other one I'm still looking into with my Nightling contacts but I'm sure that the one in DJ Pon3s club in the same episode is another. Now in a world of magic like that I'm sure there are others hiding in plan sight. Just with different colors on them or with a little makeup anew cutey mark. Don't under estimate them Pinkie my seem out of reality but they can be super sneaky and clever. Agent Night Rain signing out. I think I have a tail.


I also thought about it, in any case it is very inhuman to kill these clones like this


In actuality, I don't believe that the element of laughter would have worked if it was a clone.


Here's another hypothesis: Sunburst and Starlight's scene occurs in the mirror pool dimension. Or, the scene is written by the show scenarists' clones. Or they just didn't think too much about it, SISO.


If your theory's solution was canon, this is my idea for what you would see. If they got distracted, someone would take them away into a private area and ask them if they were pulled out of the pool, like 'you' said. If it's a 'yes', they are eliminated. If it's a 'no', then everyone else is eliminated.


Yeah clones shouldn’t really have rights, let alone really be there own being(which its sad cuz they are people/ponies too;) but it can potentially cause a whole bunch of issues especially within identity theft and all.


Fun fact: SunBurst has the best memory in the show so it’s not likely of SunBurst to mess up a single detail

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@random duck I wasn't even talking to u what are u okaying about 💀

Did sunburst see pinkie get pulled out/pulling other pinkies out?


Here's another theory. Remember the Pinkie at table being bummed out about not knowing if she was the real Pinkie or not? THAT was the Pinkie that Rainbow brought in and survived. A clone wouldn't have an existential crisis like that. Because we've seen Pinkie sad before so it would make sense for the surviving Pinkie to be the real one. During Discord's second "attack," Pinkie took in a quick drink from the cotton candy/chocolate rain cloud before she rushed back to help Twilight and the others. If a clone had survived, she wouldn't have done that. Pinkie created the clones so she could be in multiple places at once. The clones wouldn't see the severity of the situation like the depressed/surviving Pinkie did. Thus... the surviving Pinkie is the real Pinkie. Also... Maude and the rest of the Pies know Pinkie inside and out. I think they would notice ANY change in her.


Or Sunburst just misinterpreted what was said.

The fact is that those clones weren't alive. They were magical constructs. Twilight couldn't have sent the original Pinkie to the pool because she was never of the pool to begin with. Also, Pinkie's clones were not identical clones. And I don't mean in appearance. The clones are basically how many fans interpret Pinkie to be. Sunshine, rainbows, and smiles. The real Pinkie Pie is more than that. She can feel more than just happy. And that's why the real Pinkie always was the most likely to succeed in that challenge. Pinkie may have ADHD. But she does know how to focus when it matters. The clones also have ADHD. But unlike Pinkie, they were just born yesterday. They never had the chance to learn how to focus when it mattered.

Although, here's an alternate interpretation. Your theory could both be right and wrong. Twilight didn't make a mistake and sent the original Pinkie to the Mirror Pool (and no, Twilight is not a murderer because the clones are magical constructs). However, Twilight couldn't have sent Pinkie back to what she was never part of. So instead of returning to the pool, she was just transported someplace else. Or at least not in the pool. And because Pinkie was having an existential crisis, she actually believed that she was a clone because of that, and just happened to be lucky enough to escape elimination. In Saddle Row Review, we see an escapee Pinkie clone. But what if that's the real Pinkie thinking she's a clone, while the clone thinks she's the real Pinkie?

But it's so annoying when people claim that Twilight is a murderer. The Pinkie clones were just magical constructs and nothing more.


I feel like the surviving pinkie is the real pinkie  because the clones all they wanted to do is have fun and I don't think the writers didn't want to do that because it's a kid show


The thought itself that Twilight could kill a pony with no effort, when she was still just an unicorn! And nobody even cared or realised!


Pinkie had a special power inside her so it's pretty hard to damage or hurt her

@Xxjelly• m?kenzi3 _ gacha • what video did he state that in? i would like to watch

Yeah<br>And I recon that sawtooth also said why she had that power,from the ep of the equestria attack from the 3 main villains pinkie gets the power of the bell and it affects her whole timeline

Yeah
And I recon that sawtooth also said why she had that power,from the ep of the equestria attack from the 3 main villains pinkie gets the power of the bell and it affects her whole timeline


I don't suppose this "invalidates" your theory on her getting Grogar's bell, using Discord's magic, and giving herself a bit of magic across time and space? Ok, not completely... Yes, a clone could inherit the magical properties of the original, but it would not be the phrase "Pinkie gave herself some chaos magic". The phrase would be "Pinkie gave her original self some chaos magic". So <i>t e c h n i c a l l y</i> it wasn't a self-fulfilling boot-strap paradox...

I don't suppose this "invalidates" your theory on her getting Grogar's bell, using Discord's magic, and giving herself a bit of magic across time and space? Ok, not completely... Yes, a clone could inherit the magical properties of the original, but it would not be the phrase "Pinkie gave herself some chaos magic". The phrase would be "Pinkie gave her original self some chaos magic". So _t e c h n i c a l l y_ it wasn't a self-fulfilling boot-strap paradox...


Twilight could have easily prevented the possibility of killing the real Pinkie, not with some convoluted plan involving having paint dry but by simply asking "Alright, any Pinkie who was born in the last 24 hours, rise your hoof."<br>Isn't Twilight a scientific genius? Maybe she was just too smart to think of something so simple?

Twilight could have easily prevented the possibility of killing the real Pinkie, not with some convoluted plan involving having paint dry but by simply asking "Alright, any Pinkie who was born in the last 24 hours, rise your hoof."
Isn't Twilight a scientific genius? Maybe she was just too smart to think of something so simple?


6:49 - My God, Twilight would’ve just asked if one of each them if one of them pulled out of the pool..

6:49 - *My God, Twilight would’ve just asked if one of each them if one of them pulled out of the pool..*


Even if it is a cloned pinkie pie, how would the element of harmony laughter work on her. When Chrysalis tried to do the same thing it didn't work out, if it were a cloned pinkie then the results shouldn't bee so different


"let's not go on a tangent here" OH MY GOD YOU GENIUS HORSE THEORIST, BEST MATH JOKE I'VE EVER HEARD


Me thinking I’ve got something: ” Technically if this theory was correct it would debunk the “Pinkie temporarily absorbed Discord’s magic and it spread all through her life” theory, because the clone isn’t Pinkie, therefore they would live a different life. You get what I’m putting down? That Pinkie would not have the chaos magic spread through their timeline, therefore they wouldn’t do all of their p- “

Ah wait this doesn’t make sense the Pinkie clones did gravity defying stuff at Rainbow’s lake thing so that means that both theory’s could just be true separate of each other. Pretend this never existed, I just didn’t want my theorizing to go to waste, so here.

Me thinking I’ve got something: _” Technically if this theory was correct it would debunk the “Pinkie temporarily absorbed Discord’s magic and it spread all through her life” theory, because the clone isn’t Pinkie, therefore they would live a different life. You get what I’m putting down? That Pinkie would not have the chaos magic spread through their timeline, therefore they wouldn’t do all of their p- “_

Ah wait this doesn’t make sense the Pinkie clones did gravity defying stuff at Rainbow’s lake thing so that means that both theory’s could just be true separate of each other. Pretend this never existed, I just didn’t want my theorizing to go to waste, so here.

In other words you read that all for nothing and I was wrong.


Sawtooth’s clone: pinkie pie has been unknowingly dead for years
Sawtooth: this should be good

Sawtooth’s clone: pinkie pie has been unknowingly dead for years
Sawtooth: *this should be good*


I just watched the episode and i dont think twilight killed pinkie. If you remember, when the clones came out of the pool, ALL of them kept chanting “fun! Fun! Fun!” meaning the thing they cared about most was fun. The test was the only true way too see who the real pinkie was because only pinkie would sit down and do anything for her friends because thats what she truly cared about the most. Plus, if she was killed, then how did she know who princess celestia is and to write her a letter about the lesson she learned? Pinkie never taught the clones about any of that. They wouldn’t know what the lesson was because they didn’t go through the first part. Also, in later episodes, they use the elements of harmony, and only pinkie pie can use the element of laughter so there’s no way it can be a clone. Also, the clones had VERY low iqs, although pinkie doesnt have the highest iq, she was much more developed mentally and thats very clear. The way the clones acted showed that. One last piece of evidence is that the clone has no history with the girls, so she wouldn’t know anything. But in the episodes after this, pinkie knows and remembers her history with the girls so there’s no way its a clone.


Well we see the essence of the clones returned to the mirror pool when zapped, would that have happened to the real pinkie?


You <b>DO</b> realize that even without this theory, the mass Pinkie-cide is the reason hearing "Fun?" with that accent sets off my PTSD?

You *DO* realize that even without this theory, the mass Pinkie-cide is the reason hearing "Fun?" with that accent sets off my PTSD?


When I saw the title I literally pressed it faster then how fast pinky could’ve gotten distracted when twilight was killing the “clones”


I think it was just sawtooth and sine's plan to insult twilight😂😂😂... what they said on 6:40 😂😂😂


I think Pinkie is still the original, AND Sunburst got the info from a clone, because we have seen the clone that he talked to as well, it is the clone seen in the episode (that I can't remember the name of) where the mane six are interviewed for how the opening of Rarity's new boutique went.


Theory time

The original Pinkie was the Pinkie in use as of episode 1 till the great clone massacre. Then we had the first Pinkie clone who was prominently on screen until Starlight fucked around with time travel at the end of season 5. After that point we have no reason to assume that Twilight didn't go back to another alternate timeline meaning that we are now on Pinkie number 3. From Twilights perspective only one Pinkie but in reality that's 3 different consciousnesses who all ended up as Twilights friend.


If Twilight killed the real Pinkie Pie  and they were living with a clone the whole time then i'm surprised the clone never did anything to accidentally give itself away, by that i mean do or say something that the real Pinkie Pie wouldn't normally do.

@Jade west Then why are you questioning something nobody else gives a crap about if you don't give a crap about it either?

@Jade west Says the person asking an idiotic question over something that literally nobody gives a crap about.

@Jade west Do us all a favor and just deal with it. -_-


The only way I could see this being true is pinkie going from slightly insensitive  party pony with ADHD to crazy, almost psycho pony in the newer versions of her. Really after that point pinkie had transitioned into more of crazy instead of hyper. It was actually around that time period where the switch started. But she did have pinkies memories and the love she had forv then was very real saying why she couldn’t give in to her ADHD and look away from the paint. It wasn’t death or going away she feared it was losing her friends


My head cannon since that episode, Pinkie lives in the lake sending out her shadow clone copies to do everything and she gains their experiences. She could leave the lake anytime, but why give up that awesome ability. The  lake is just a broken power, it's not really given limits.
How do we know if our Pinky in the show is actually the original? If she entered years before that could totally explain her toon powers.🤔
What If...  Pinky has always been using a magical construct for as long as everyone  has known her. 😳


Its clearly the original, we know the original went into a state of depression or something comparable, the same one who managed to last the longest, on top of that, the memory point just debunks this outright. The assumption the clones would inherit the memories is just head canon, nothing concrete to go off other than the conclusion.


Personally I don't believe the pinkie we follow after the episode Too Many Pinkie Pies, is a clone. Firstly while adults do enjoy the show, it is still considered a kids show. So very important continuity is crucial to keep track of. So Sunburst's line could be a slip up they didn't keep track of because it was basically a one off scene with him and Starlight. (Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't seen season 3 in forever) Secondly, as far as I am aware Pinkie told the clones the names of her immediate friends and not Celestia. At the end of Too Many Pinkies, The last pinkie left writes a friendship letter to the Princess. Unless she told the clones about writing friendship letters, theres no way for the clones to just know this unless they were told that was a regular thing that needed to be done. Don't recall seeing her tell the clones about Celestia or the letters they write to her. Third, the second pinkie cameo in Saddle Row Review could be the 'real' Pinkie hiding trying to avoid getting taken out by Twilight or it could be another clone trying to hide from the real Pinkie and her friends because she doesn't want to meet the same fate as the other clone Pinkies. Fourth, in the episode Fame and Misfortune during the song Flawless and the episode Pinkie gets hounded for being the jokester pony of the friend group. Yea she can get distracted and chaotic at the worst of times but, when things need to/or get really serious she also gets Really serious when push comes to shove. In the song flawless she sings about how shes more than just laughs and jokes. It's fun to think about but, I honestly don't believe what we see is clone Pinkie.


I always considered the episode "To Many Pinkie Pies" to be the darkest of the entire series. The crazy thing is, it was unintentionally that (I really hope it was). The entire "execution" of clones was deeply unsettling and your theory now is actually very on point deepening the darkness of it, I will need to check those episodes again.

This episode is like something out the The King in Yellow play.


I believe Sunburst just got it wrong and Starlight either didn't know he was wrong or didn't catch it. We see very strong evidence in Too Many Pinkie Pies that the surviving one is the real Pinkie. Plus, the elements of harmony most likely wouldn't work if Pinkie was a clone, just as they knew Chrysalis's copies weren't real in The Mean 6. So our Pinkie Pie is the real Pinkie Pie.


Sounds more like a fanfiction than a fact based theory. I think the Pinkie that lived was the original Pinkie.


if the real pinkie is gone, the elements of harmony would have stopped working. i think the writers just forgot how the artists illustrated the portal and did it wrong


Whether it is true or not it is still very dark for a children show to have the main character kills so many people, ah ponies<br>It is darker than those anime that tries to be dark with knifes and kills

Whether it is true or not it is still very dark for a children show to have the main character kills so many people, ah ponies
It is darker than those anime that tries to be dark with knifes and kills


You could've just made a normal series of theories based on the clones but no, you just had to add lore to the sawtooth waves universe

I applaud


Well, IF that is true, wouldn't the element of laughter not react to Clone Pinkie? I would think they of all things can tell the difference. Not exactly an option now but at the time it would have probably worked. I also recall pinkie becoming highly depressed at one point while the others seemed not to care.

As for the paint drying test itself, Yeah im not sure that was Twilights brightest moment plus Pinkie being Pinkie if she was a clone done you think she would have randomly mentioned it? If their is one CONSTENT about the embodiment of randomness, its she is CONSISTENTLY random.


All though your theory may be correct, How can you explain her turning into a princess later on in the story. If i'm correct, im pretty sure you need to be truthful in your work. And she also became an alicorn, There is no way she killed the real pinkie. She is the princess of friendship. FRIENDSHIP I SAY. You are guilty of accusation for twilight.


I used to wonder if Twilight got the ACTUAL pinkie before. Like, how are we 100% sure that that’s the real Pinkie Pie?! If even “Pinkie” wasn’t sure she was the real one


I always thought that twilight probably killed the real pinkie with that many clones it could've easily happened factor in the other details and it's pretty high odds that she's gone #(CLM)(clone lives matter)👌😂 pretty Great video.


You had me convinced at first but then I realized you missed an important detail. I think that the pinkie that survived WAS the real pinkie because right before the test started if you pay close attention Rainbow Dash had found one more Pinkie and dropped her near the BACK of the room and the Pinkie who survived was in EXACTLY the same spot. This detail is easy to miss seeing as I didn't notice it until the third time I watched it. But this was still an awesome video though.


I looked at the Sean carefully and saw that the magic left that pinkie and went into the spastic pinkey pie after exploding by twilight and maby its not just her memories but her magic with the memories that explains the pink magic flying to that pinkie and I also saw that the same pink magic was in the episode where some ponies got the magic back


My plausible theory is that the original pinkie pie escaped the mayhem of pinkies after she realized they were wrangling them up and was the same background pinkie pie in Rarity for You!


Finally someone made this!! This was stuck the whole time in my head roam free!


Come to think of it, I’ve been wondering why I haven’t seen Pinkie be using her Pinkie Senses in the more recent seasons . . .


I think that kinda explains why pinkie forgot or didnt know what was her purpose in life (the episode where cheese sandwhich gets depressed)

I disagree pinkie was right every one else had big things to do but pinkie dident run a business or a kingdom


Besides Sawtooth, Twilight actually already did kill, unless you think that having his flesh stripped from his bones on screen didn't kill Sombra. XD


Do you remember that she has a hidden party room full of information of how many parties she done and will do.


I used to know you when you were called the brony notion, years ago, I found you through the Apple bottom jeans encanto video, and I lost it, you were one of my favourite content creators as a kid<br>Thank you for creating content :))

I used to know you when you were called the brony notion, years ago, I found you through the Apple bottom jeans encanto video, and I lost it, you were one of my favourite content creators as a kid
Thank you for creating content :))


Knowing that the cloned pinkies didn’t know any of the main 6’s names, they obviously didn’t have real Pinkies memories so it would be quite obvious that the clone pinkie wasn’t the real pinkie for the real pinkie knows a lot, including every bodies birthdays and she plans them. Clone pinkie would not be able to do that. Real pinkie had her memory.


i remember reading a really good fanfic with this exact premise<br>edit: for those asking, the fic is I Am Not The Actor on fimfiction!

i remember reading a really good fanfic with this exact premise
edit: for those asking, the fic is I Am Not The Actor on fimfiction!


I don’t think Twilight killed Pinkie. The clones seem to represent one part of the pony who cast the spell, for Pinkie it was how much she likes to have fun, but it doesn’t seem like they have all of Pinkie’s characteristics. For example during the scene when Pinkie is basically having an identity crisis, she’s understandably sad and scared. However she’s the only one we see like that, the others are yelling FUN FUN FUN all of the time. When Pinkie recognized she might be blasted away during the test, she knew she had to stay focused even though it was hard. To me there just isn’t enough evidence to prove that Pinkie was blasted away.


The thing is that sunburst was asking a type of question and starlight was never scene asking pinkie about it, and even if pinkie said that what’s to know if was the true pinkie it could have been one of the surviving clones like the one from Maine hatten to me there’s not enough evidence for this, and another theory is that maybe all the pinkie clones that were killed could have merged with the same pinkie becoming one entity.


what if that line "so pinkie pie just dove in." was really The clone versions of the prime versions Looking into the pool?  I mean we <b>are</b> looking at reflections after all.

what if that line "so pinkie pie just dove in." was really The clone versions of the prime versions Looking into the pool?  I mean we *are* looking at reflections after all.


Not related but the CMC has two talents represented in one cutie mark.


Eh, I'm still far from convinced. The idea that memories transfer to the last existing copy seems like a stretch to me and has no evidence anywhere to back it up. If memories can be copied/transferred as part of the pool's magic, why weren't the clones created with them to begin with? Pinkie's personality was passed on to the clones, so clearly the pool isn't limited to just the physical body. And what if the original were destroyed while there were still several surviving clones? What if multiple clones survive the massacre and they never get down to a single last one standing? What happens to the memories then?

And even if the memories did transfer to the last one we saw and it was a clone, I find it hard to believe that she would be able to instantly replicate everything about the original Pinkie flawlessly, including her motivations and devotion to her friends. The clones were holding on because they didn't want to die, sure, but only the original was doing it because staying with her friends was the most important thing to her, which the surviving Pinkie explains immediately afterwards.

We know from "The Saddle Row Review" that at least one Pinkie clone did survive. It's entirely possible that she's the one who shared the story about entering the pool. Even if she hasn't been deliberately spreading her secret around, she might have told it to one pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony ... Until at some point word of mouth reached Sunburst, who thought it was about the original Pinkie. Starlight almost certainly wouldn't have known any better, or she just thought "Close enough," and didn't feel the need to correct him on the details.

Or maybe the clone even told Sunburst the story directly and he didn't realize he wasn't talking to OG Pinkie.

Or he could have known the legend of the Mirror Pool and that Pinkie cloned herself with it and then filled some details himself, mistakenly assuming that you have to go into the pool to use it.

Eh, I'm still far from convinced. The idea that memories transfer to the last existing copy seems like a stretch to me and has no evidence anywhere to back it up. If memories can be copied/transferred as part of the pool's magic, why weren't the clones created with them to begin with? Pinkie's personality was passed on to the clones, so clearly the pool isn't limited to just the physical body. And what if the original were destroyed while there were still several surviving clones? What if multiple clones survive the massacre and they never get down to a single last one standing? What happens to the memories then?

And even if the memories did transfer to the last one we saw and it was a clone, I find it hard to believe that she would be able to _instantly_ replicate everything about the original Pinkie flawlessly, including her motivations and devotion to her friends. The clones were holding on because they didn't want to die, sure, but only the original was doing it because staying with her friends was the most important thing to her, which the surviving Pinkie explains immediately afterwards.

We know from "The Saddle Row Review" that at least one Pinkie clone did survive. It's entirely possible that she's the one who shared the story about entering the pool. Even if she hasn't been deliberately spreading her secret around, she might have told it to one pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony, who told it to another pony ... Until at some point word of mouth reached Sunburst, who thought it was about the original Pinkie. Starlight almost certainly wouldn't have known any better, or she just thought "Close enough," and didn't feel the need to correct him on the details.

Or maybe the clone even told Sunburst the story directly and he didn't realize he wasn't talking to OG Pinkie.

Or he could have known the legend of the Mirror Pool and that Pinkie cloned herself with it and then filled some details himself, mistakenly assuming that you have to go into the pool to use it.


I say the original Pinkie Pie is still around but watching from behind the scenes. The reason I believe this is because during the episode, The Saddle Row Review, showing everyone's interviews with the newspaper pony in the diner for Rarity's Manehatten boutique, a second Pinkie Pie is seen smiling at you in the booth behind the Pinkie Pie doing the interview. So, perhaps the original never actually went in to Twilight's "test".


It's unlikely that the Element of Laughter would work for an imitation.


it’s kinda hard to charge someone from murder if the victim is still alive


I don't think Twilight really killed any of the clones. She just killed their Pinkie Pie body. Take a look at the clip, there body bursts but a pink essence returns back to the pool. My theory is, that those essences take the form of whoever is at the pool. If somebody cast the reverse spell, they return back to the pool. Besides, would there REALLY be killing in a girl's show about candy colored ponies?


This theory was so much fun to watch. One if my favorites yet. As what I think about it, there's another possibility: we know for a fact (from the episode of Rarity's boutique in Manehattan) that other Pinkie's clones survived. So, it's not in out of the real of possibility that   Sunburst spoke with a Pinkie clone, while the original was simply elsewhere.


Except if you all remember correctly, twilight actually said after it, it wouldn't have worked on the original anyway


4:20 well as i remember i saw that when all the “clones” were killed and their- memories? Went back to the cloning pool.
And if the clone was the one who survived the wavy line air thing went to the clone and so if those things are memories and the original pinkie died and the vlone survived all of those memories went to the clone! And thats how they remember the memories of the old pinkie had.


Hold up, if a clone of Pinkie survived, how would she use the elements of harmony if when Crystalis made a clone of Pinkie, she perished when trying to use the elements? Wouldn't the tree of Harmony be able to tell that is wasn't Pinkie?


I personally don’t think twilight killed the real pinkie, but yes..Your point still stands in a way

Pinkie does represent the element of “Laughter” and her clones have a personality mixed by pinkie and discord, yet discord would be distracted easily so if in an alternate universe where it was discord instead of pinkie, Your point would’ve easily been correct. It looks like her clones don’t follow the true spirit of pinkie, and she does represent something that involves friendship.
Key word is “fun”, If these clones are so interested in “fun” then of course, they won’t wanna watch paint falling.. Yetttt, Neither would pinkie. In
“To where and back again”, somewhat starting shows pinkie as a changeling. If starlight wasn’t her friend, the changelings would’ve understood her personality quite well..I’m not saying pinkie isn’t interested by friendship, but she was also very interested in the choco rain clouds when discord was evil, While Celestia OBVIOUSLY made it super obvious that they needed to save Equestria, Pinkie just didn’t care, Did she? It’s the typical pinkie tho, but in other episodes.. Pinkie is willing to do everything for her friends, even if it makes her sad.
So as I previously said, her clones act like discord. Which means, they cannot fully be trusted. Because they are CLONES, discord has tried to betray the main 6 pretty much a lot, Pinkie is still connected to the clones in a way, Yet if you think about it.. If the clones personality is exactly like discord AND the changelings, do you think they could be the changelings themselves? Ofc, they would want to protect their hive…But what if there was no hive at that time, and what if queen chrysalis didn’t exist that time? If Twilight killed the real pinkie, changelings would’ve still been feeding off of love.
Do you think thay could be apart of a backstory for them? They didn’t have queen chrysalis, but as they wanted to stay and didn’t wanna get defeated they wanted to feed off of love, then bla bla bla you know what happens next! But in this episode could the clones be connected to the changelings in a way, or be them? If not any, what if discord spawned them? Okay, I get it I’m getting a bit off track.. But still I think my point stands.

I personally don’t think twilight killed the real pinkie, but yes..Your point still stands in a way

Pinkie does represent the element of “Laughter” and her clones have a personality mixed by pinkie and discord, yet discord would be distracted easily so if in an alternate universe where it was discord instead of pinkie, Your point would’ve easily been correct. It looks like her clones don’t follow the true spirit of pinkie, and she does represent something that involves friendship.
Key word is “fun”, If these clones are so interested in “fun” then of course, they won’t wanna watch paint falling.. Yetttt, Neither would pinkie. In
“To where and back again”, somewhat starting shows pinkie as a changeling. If starlight wasn’t her friend, the changelings would’ve understood her personality quite well..I’m not saying pinkie isn’t interested by friendship, but she was also very interested in the choco rain clouds when discord was evil, While Celestia OBVIOUSLY made it super obvious that they needed to save Equestria, Pinkie just didn’t care, Did she? It’s the typical pinkie tho, but in other episodes.. Pinkie is willing to do everything for her friends, even if it makes her sad.
So as I previously said, her clones act like discord. Which means, they cannot fully be trusted. Because they are CLONES, discord has tried to betray the main 6 pretty much a lot, Pinkie is still connected to the clones in a way, Yet if you think about it.. If the clones personality is exactly like discord AND the changelings, do you think they could be the changelings themselves? Ofc, they would want to protect their hive…But what if there was no hive at that time, and what if queen chrysalis didn’t exist that time? If Twilight killed the real pinkie, changelings would’ve still been feeding off of love.
Do you think thay could be apart of a backstory for them? They didn’t have queen chrysalis, but as they wanted to stay and didn’t wanna get defeated they wanted to feed off of love, then bla bla bla you know what happens next! But in this episode could the clones be connected to the changelings in a way, or be them? If not any, *what if discord spawned them?* Okay, I get it I’m getting a bit off track.. But still I think my point stands.


I think the real Pinkie, in her depressin, moved away. Perhaps to the rock farm, perhaps not. One of the clones survived and became the "new pinkie", but as we saw, all clones were not gone. I think maybe the real Pinkie and the clone met up, and decide to "take turns" living as pinkie. That would also mean pinkie told everything to the clone, and thats why both have memories.


If Twilight had killed the original pinkie, the moment she did every clone would've disappeared. If we are thinking about it as kinda like a device, she basically copied and pasted herself resulting in the clones unknowingly relying on her existence for theirs.


maybe the clone is the symbolically represented Pinkie’s love for her friends thats why the clone can wield the element of joy. Since Pinkie pie always have files of her friends and memories. The clone also studied them.


This episode was just one long strawman argument between two strawman arguing over who was the real strawman


you know what? you didn't actually think this through did you clone sawtooth thingy lol look pinkie maybe disctracted easily but we know her enough to know that she could do anything for her true friends <3


Or, or, OR ! Remember that one Pinkie "clone" from Rarity's boutique grand opening ?<br>Maybe the OG Pinkie Pie couldn't take what she had done to Ponyville and fled all together ! Then, yes : the Pinkie we follow for the rest of the series is a clone, but the real one lives on !

Or, or, OR ! Remember that one Pinkie "clone" from Rarity's boutique grand opening ?
Maybe the OG Pinkie Pie couldn't take what she had done to Ponyville and fled all together ! Then, yes : the Pinkie we follow for the rest of the series is a clone, but the real one lives on !

@Efee079 Not at all. It was completely intentional.


I have a question, how the hell does the sun rise and set in g5? I also wonder where were the other species while the pony’s split?


So I just watched this and was thinking it over then decided to look back over the part where rainbow dash dropped the real pinky with the others. She was dropped in the pile on the back right, we don't get many clear views of the pinkys but you're still able to pin point where pinky is, with that I watched it to where there was the two final pinkys. There was one in the front left, but looking back, that's not where pinky was dropped. Leaving it to the pinky in the back which is very close to where it seemed pinky was dropped. In the end it was left to just the pinky in the back left. Meaning the pinky we see throughout the series after that episode, is indeed the true pinky


Still doesn't change the fact that Twilight massacred dozens of living, thinking people just because they weren't the original.


Likely that this MIRROR pool just pool other version of the same oerson from parrallel world, or, ever more likely, just partially creates such world itself, and then this spell from that book Twilight using is actually merging created parallel parts of reality into one... In fact, this question means almost nothing, because different scriptwriters are parallel versions of Equestria. Yes, we are trying to create a single whole world out of these parts, but some of them just contradict others, and some, like this one, double every other piece of the world connected with it into two versions, without actually answering which is correct - with Pinkie as a clone and Pinkie as the original. <i>Besides</i> already dividing everything in pieces question - does that second Pinkie, which is either clon or EG-version, exists in the universe under consideration at the moment of the question.

Likely that this MIRROR pool just pool other version of the same oerson from parrallel world, or, ever more likely, just partially creates such world itself, and then this spell from that book Twilight using is actually merging created parallel parts of reality into one... In fact, this question means almost nothing, because different scriptwriters are parallel versions of Equestria. Yes, we are trying to create a single whole world out of these parts, but some of them just contradict others, and some, like this one, double every other piece of the world connected with it into two versions, without actually answering which is correct - with Pinkie as a clone and Pinkie as the original. _Besides_ already dividing everything in pieces question - does that second Pinkie, which is either clon or EG-version, exists in the universe under consideration at the moment of the question.


IDK if the real Pinkie survived the clone purge, but I'm fairly certain:
1) one clone at least escaped
2) this stupid anti-adhd test gives the same chances of survival to all the Pinkies, if not less to the original! After all, the last distraction came from Rainbow Dash! If you can't listen to your best friends, where are we going?! This test was shit!

Also no matter that, I agree we shouldn't say clones don't deserve as much to live as the originals.


I believe some alt time lining was goin on and the pinkie we have now is the real one. To complex for me to believe honestly. So I'm going with my simple belief in this case.


Anyone else think about how in the season 8 finale we have that scene where magic returned, and Pinkie Pie got magic returned to her, the magic possibly could have been from the mirror pool

As well as how there are 2 Pinkie Pies left after that long period of time, and how Rainbow Dash intervened, that Pinkie Pie closer to the paint responded to her first. Would the real Pinkie Pie respond to her friend first, especially RD, or a clone.


Pony ghost/spirits still exist. What if we got the “Sherman & Mr Peabody” solution to this? Say… the real pinky was hit, but the original spirit made it back to the clone?!?!

But if it was two different “new” spirits, I doubt this would happen or be more complicated! She probably would have revisited the pond to give that extra spirit a body. Thus, explaining the pinkie lookalike in Mainhattin!!!

Good thing ponies still have ghost/spirits. It would be better than bloody murder… Bwa HaHaHa 🤪 😝 😈. (Wait, did that just come out of me?!)

P. S. Who & How should we be taking care of the other lost “pinkie ghost/spirits”? They need new lives or a living some how!

A long we’ll deserved healthy life to take with them before going to pony heaven, and a hopeful redemption from this cruelty & short life for a potential redemption from going to pony heck for attempting murder on clones. (sorry I laughed, pleas forgive me pony sisters, gulp! 🥶😰🥺)


Okay but, I'm totally not waiting for that time when sawtooth has too much clones because of his original clone lol

Anyways, great theory!

@Sawtooth Waves knowing about everything of mlp is harder than my studies


The original could be brought back through the resurrection of consciousness and physical being, however the process needs to be done properly... The process would need to be done at the mirror pool itself, but someone would have to get Pinkie out of the pool itself... And mend her magic and soul intertwined.


For me it doesn't make sense that the real Pinkie was killed, because when teh clones died, the inflated look didn't seem natural, it seemed as if the clones were, well, clones, not real. Unless Twilight used a "kill spell" who side effect was making the pony look like that before dying (which is both silly and terryfing), she probably just used a "Desintegrate clon" spell

However, if this was the case, then there would not be a point to make the consentration test in the first place...


Twilight had the power and balls to kill her bestfriends clones (Which are technically still living ponies) but she didn't have to balls to kill the three villains??? :0


The theory is ultimately debunked because Pinkie Pie came up with the test "Give them something not fun to do". The clones were made to have fun with the other mane 6. So Pinkie still survived because she was not the fun looking type. When Rainbow Dash brings her in she says " I found this one poking holes in the ground making frowny faces" So she was not one of the clones because she was not herself in the time of the test.


I've always thought that maybe the original pinkie pie was one of the pinkie pies that got sent back into the pool. Specifically, I remember one of them looking very sad and watching the paint dry, then another pinkie somehow shapeshifted their face and head to mimic the pinkie pie from mlp generations 1-3. Any pony, no matter how dire a situation may be, will be offput by somepony shapeshifting their head but not their body.

And, alas, the sad pinkie pie looked over confused, then got sent into the pool. I've always thought that was the real pinkie pie, but I never had enough evidence to support maybe the pinkie we know now is a clone.

But now I'm thinking, Sawtooths theory about the possible clone (the one with straight hair, eyelashes, and a different cutie mark in the club), alongside the idea that the timeline in season 5 onwards is different from the one we started off in, maybe in the timeline we know now, that pinkie clone is actually the real pinkie pie.

Tl;Dr: I think we know which pinkie exactly was the real pinkie, and in the post starlight reformation timeline the real pinkie wasn't sent into the pool but instead stalks the mane 6


There are also theories that some Pinkies survived the massacre. It could be because they left Ponyville as a clip I once saw in a video showed another Pinkie on the same train as the Mane 6


It is tragic that there will no longer be any Sawtooth,or should I say <b>Notion</b> clones with higher levels of Intelligence than the original,rest in peace

It is tragic that there will no longer be any Sawtooth,or should I say *Notion* clones with higher levels of Intelligence than the original,rest in peace


No he wasn’t right, he still never explained how Pinkie had memories of literally EVERY SINGLE PARTY SHE’S EVER THROWN, and every pie she’s baked for Rainbowdash. Even memories of her sister Maud Pie from when they were foals, AAAAAAAAAAND How she got her cutie mark.


I don't think pinkie was killed and here's why: Even if the amnesia theory was true, the memories would have needed much time to recover and all of this happened in the span of one day with not much time to recover those memories, at least it would be very unlikely. You also have to think about cinema logic. For the majority of the time the 3rd perspective stays on the real pinkie (or does it?). If twilight did kill pinkie and the memories were moved to the remaining pinkie, then essentially the clone would become the true pinky... no matter how warped that sounds.


this has been lingering in my mind for years now, good to see it being covered here


We all know at least one clone survived after.<br> Rarity opened up her new boutique....and that one is hiding.. that means knows she's a clone.... So there are two pinkie pies at least... And that clone doesn't seem to have any interest in the Rock farm family...

We all know at least one clone survived after.
 Rarity opened up her new boutique....and that one is hiding.. that means knows she's a clone.... So there are two pinkie pies at least... And that clone doesn't seem to have any interest in the Rock farm family...


Hey what about that one episode where we see a Pinkie clown at the restaurant when Pinkie Pie is being interviewed? Good theory though.


If Pinkie's a clone, then who's to say that other characters may or may not be clones.  Could the Starswirl the Bearded who was willing to be sealed away with other Equestrians into a magical book be the "original" Starswirl...or could the original have secretly stayed behind in order to continue protecting Equestria from other threats while a CLONE was sealed away instead?  Food for thought!


Wait, there is a flaw. In the episode, They all wanted to stay. There is no way Pinkie pie would ever say that she was pulled out, Cause they all wanted to stay, if they asked them a simple question, they would say they were the real pinkie. You were right from the beginning, the original pinkie pie was saved. And survived. She was the only one who was sad, She was the only one who said she wasn’t the real pinkie pie. Something that makes them different from each other. Pinkie, would feel sad if she did something bad. Pinkie is the most emotional character, You may not notice this, but pinkie pie cares about even one person says something bad about her, she immediately has a sad expression. Which makes since. Even if the clone was the one who survived… She would never say yes, in the fear of being pulled into the pool. Even if there will be no more Pinkie. Twilight will send the clone of pinkie back into the pool. Of course, and what you said was right. Pinkie did survive the original one, Your clone actually was grasping at straws.


When I watched this MLP episode first time I thought that all this "watch the paint dry" test just didn't have any sense. Twy could spend a few more hours researching cloning spell and figure out better ways to recognise a clone  (i.e. with researching Pinkie's clone lessons and testing every Pinkie about their past, for example), but Celestia's best student has chosen a literal genocide instead. <br>And the more I thik about this moment the creepier it becomes...

When I watched this MLP episode first time I thought that all this "watch the paint dry" test just didn't have any sense. Twy could spend a few more hours researching cloning spell and figure out better ways to recognise a clone  (i.e. with researching Pinkie's clone lessons and testing every Pinkie about their past, for example), but Celestia's best student has chosen a literal genocide instead.
And the more I thik about this moment the creepier it becomes...


This channel is amazing! Every video leaves me shooketh


1:20 OK thank you for clearing that up because I have to be honest I got confused on my first viewing of this episode!


Now can you talk about how there's queens in changelings and probably other creatures but princesses in ponies?


I don’t think Twilight killed the real Pinkie Pie. In the scene where Pinkie Pie gave her clones a lesson on the Mane 6, she only gave them a lesson on the Mane 6. The clones don’t know who Mayor Mare or the Cakes are. So…


Sawtooth don't you ever wonder "if Flurry had such a big part to play in Equestria, the what happened to her?"


This makes sense so here's what happens at the test twilight would keep killing the clones while the clones learn to pay atetion  to the paint drying


Dear Sawtooth waves

I have a theory I hope you make a video out of.

Where are all the other creatures? The dragons, the griffins, the changelings in the new mlp?


What if, WHAT IF

After the Mirror Pool episode, we ended up in the mirror universe and all ponies there would have been the 'clones', and this is how the writers leave open ended stories for the community to write. We don't know how the prime timeline went, we only saw the mirror

What if, *WHAT IF*

After the Mirror Pool episode, we ended up in the mirror universe and all ponies there would have been the 'clones', and this is how the writers leave open ended stories for the community to write. We don't know how the prime timeline went, we only saw the mirror


The end of this was hilarious as they hated on twilight


i don’t buy the temporary amnesia thing- i think maybe their memories would work closer to how foggy memories work in real life, as when you remember something you are just remembering the memory of it in your head, making it farther from the reality every time you rethink it. in this case i think the first clone would have the closest memories to the original pinkie and since the clones cloned themselves, their memories would be even blurrier every time they went though another set of cloning.


Let's not forget the party cave the clone could have found it and read everything. Not to mention the journal cause hell that thing could have been a gold mind if the clone found it before twilight did


"Would you rather me call them Square Waves? or Triangle Wav-"
2:35 that was hilarious


The real pinkie is the one we thought was a clone in the episode about the second store


Okay but what if the original Pinkie IS alive? What if she's the reporter Pinkie that we see at Restaurant Row? Because don't think that THAT little easter egg hasn't haunted me ever since the moment I saw it...


I really love how you made your own original storyline into your theory videos! Keep up the great work!!


No. I'm sorry, but you've lost me completely. What Prime said in the beginning made sense. But then this somehow turned into Twilight takedown hour.


I believe he's right. It's one question to ask, where you pulled out the pool. Yes the Twilight is deadso.


Pretty sure pinkie would still use the mirror pool, just not to the same extent as before. I also think she regularly goes tradesies with the human pinkie, and didn't want to tell twilight  that she was messing with the mirror pool again during that one part of the first EG movie so just played it off in the same weird way she always does that only make sense because of how much she does it, which she only does because she has information she shouldn't due to messing with clones and alternate versions of herself. if she told twilight she was messing with the mirror pool again, twilight would've probably had a fit, which definitely wouldn't have helped with the stress twilight already had at that moment. i also think nobody would want to tell starlight exactly how to use the mirror pool to begin with, because if she had a small army of herself there's no doubt shed easily be able to obliterate literally all of Equestria and probably everything outside it too. Just how I think it is though.


wait a minute, if twilight killed the real pinkie and that was exposed that could be why the era of peace ended

think about it, if someone exposed the death of an earth pony at the hands of twilight, there would be a reaction, earth ponies could end up believing that alicorns are dangerous, and then as the info spreads, it would be twisted and changed until it's become lies, which causes the earth ponies to hate unicorns and pegasus creating the racism in gen 5 mlp


howdy Sawtooth,

I hope I will not disturbing you but I have a question about the G5. Until we got an explanation into the lore, I think I need a theorist like you. If there's not Magic in Equestria anymore... Why the New Mane still have cuties marks ?

Thank you !


Does anyone else remember a scene showing the real pinkie being trapped in the mirror pool or was that a fanmade thing I saw?


Well as you said in the video pinky easily get distracted but according to me main 6 can do anything for there friend and we have seen this in many episodes.


If only they knew that the clones dont retain memories of the original. They could've just given a test with questions about pinkies life


I don’t think Twilight would KILL the clones but just send them back.<br>By the way I have a question use it for a vid if you want, so here it goes: do the clones have there own universe if not how does the mirror pool bring them into existence? Other than the way we might think

I don’t think Twilight would KILL the clones but just send them back.
By the way I have a question use it for a vid if you want, so here it goes: do the clones have there own universe if not how does the mirror pool bring them into existence? Other than the way we might think


The " Dive in " Scenario make me think that the clones are not clones but alternate versions of whoever uses the pool. Also if they were clones  the law of conservation states " Matter cannot be created or destroyed." So Twilight would use that to dodge any Consequences.


Hey I noticed something in gen 5 So we know there's a ruined castle where the pegasis are but who's is it and what the flip happened to the mirror portal or the crystal empire and the crystal heart ? I'm also trying to cook up a theory on how magic is lost and who's castle it is


I thought in the episode they mentioned if the real Pinkie was poofed out of existence then ALL the clones would die too


Although, One of the Pinkie clones could have told other pony’s and that’s the story that went around..?


In Twi's defense, the pinkies never died. They went back to the mirror pool, to live as another life form until another soul came to clone themselves


This reminds me of that old Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode with the cloning hammock, where to get rid of all the tummy-button-less Homer Clones they flew helicopters holding onto giant doughnuts and lead them off a cliff.
That night in their room Marge is saying how nice it is to have one Homer back, and sees he doesn't have a tunny-button (aka he's a clone)
Marge asks where the real Homer is and the clone says 'First one to run off of cliff'

This reminds me of that old Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode with the cloning hammock, where to get rid of all the tummy-button-less Homer Clones they flew helicopters holding onto giant doughnuts and lead them off a cliff.
That night in their room Marge is saying how nice it is to have one Homer back, and sees he doesn't have a tunny-button (aka he's a clone)
Marge asks where the real Homer is and the clone says *'First one to run off of cliff'*


Honestly I don't think it goes that deep, I think they were just trying to make something pretty cool and like, a good ending and not kill one of the characters, you know. But like you're looking way too deep into those bro, it's not that complicated, she survived, everything's fine, but she just dedicated her life for her friends because the other clones don't know her friends and maybe they had ADHD, maybe they didn't. But no one really cares, it's just a kids show.


I can't stop laughing at the title XD That would be a big plot twist if Twilight Sparkle really did kill the real Pinkie Pie lol


Maybe thats why pinkie got the magic. In one of his videos 1year ago it said like when pinkie absorbed discords magic it affected her time line, but when cosy glow absorbed it nothing changed. The clones happened in the beginning of the sessions so if twilight killed the real pinkie so that means that clone absorbed discords magic that's probably why it affected her timeline and why she got the magic. (Sorry its long)


I think it's possible that everyone thinking it's a cloning pool is wrong. But rather it's a pool that connects to alternate universes using the multiple worlds interpretation. That would be the only way that the surviving Pinkie keeping all her memories make sense.


The clone concept I think should be taken as "The clone doesn't know it's a clone" a clone literally means another you, same backstory, genetic makeup, morals, everything! So this theory is very dark but possible. Just I don't believe in it because ALL the Pinkies except one didn't care about her friends


~Very important~<br>Maybe the memories of pinkie pie didn’t turn into the memories of the clone but rather the other way around some of the clone memories came back to Pinkie AND SHE KNEW that that would happen wenn her clones are sent back pinkie pie waned to expirant more then one thing at a time the reason why she created the clones in the first place

~Very important~
Maybe the memories of pinkie pie didn’t turn into the memories of the clone but rather the other way around some of the clone memories came back to Pinkie AND SHE KNEW that that would happen wenn her clones are sent back pinkie pie waned to expirant more then one thing at a time the reason why she created the clones in the first place


I think the real pinkie survived if she was a clone she would say fun all the time plus she would not have pinkie sense some people     suggest she would try to bring back the real pinkie but no because clones did not know they were clones


But how would the Pinkie Clone be able to use the Element of Laughter?


I can’t believe I’m saying this but  this makes the infamous Smile HD look believable!🤯🤬😰


I don't think the real pinkie is dead,besides if she was dead then how the hell did the clone maud? and her other sisters?  could have sworn the clones needed to be taught names,and they weren't in that episode,so how do you explain other episodes? @_@ I love your theory videos though,keep it up dude


This is confusing, we need a redo of this with sawtooth doing the talking.🙄🤦🏻♀


honestly this would explain something...<br>when pinkie touched the bewitching bell in one of the last episodes, she went insane, some people say that that moment altered her past and made her a creature of chaos. Am i the only one that thinks that pinkie´s behavior has been more chaotic since the clone moment? Maybe that explains it- maybe the pinkie clone was the one to go insane?

honestly this would explain something...
when pinkie touched the bewitching bell in one of the last episodes, she went insane, some people say that that moment altered her past and made her a creature of chaos. Am i the only one that thinks that pinkie´s behavior has been more chaotic since the clone moment? Maybe that explains it- maybe the pinkie clone was the one to go insane?


I always wondered if they got the real pinkie.


The clones returned to the pool when zapped. If Twilight killed the original Pinkie at any point, wouldn't she just act like a regular corpse?


I don't think so

   Pinkie is known to be Unpredictable after all

   So even in a Test of Focus the Original Pinkie would suprise us all


I actually watched the episode where Starlight was showing around Sunburst a few days ago!


We did see other pinkie pies in Friendship is Magic (The escapees) So it is entirely plausible one of them told the story to starlight and/or sunburst while the original still lives. Alternatively, if the clones are made of magic (Which they may be) Pinkie would've been destroyed during the magic stealing incidents, Furthermore she got magic back in season 8 after the orb of magic got blown up so this may link to herself being a clone.

Edit: I want to propose something else, Twilight wanted to send all the clones back and was worried that she would zap the original pinkie pie and destroy her, but I ask you      Could she?       There are so many more possibilities on what may have (or have not) happened. What if its like a 2048 game where there are infinite universes with one pinkie pie, when the mirror pool is used once, infinite combinations make each of those universes have 2 pinkies, another use and it's four, that's why pinkie never steps into the pool. Different clones (or 2048 boxes) are merging into the original adding more and more pinkies from other universes however maybe the mirror pool strips each pinkie of their memories locking them in their own respective universes, therefore, if the spell was reversed the pinkies would've been set back to their own universes (back to the source) so if the original got zapped, she would just stay in her (the original) timeline.  Yet another possibility is that the mirror pool simply generates the pinkies by mimicking the base form but they aren't formed with memories and with the same ending as the previous theory, if the spell is reversed, since pinkie wasn't made by the pool, she wouldn't be able to enter back into the source.

Sorry its a lot, its just a lot to think about. :) Keep it up Sawtooth


If our Pinkie is a clone DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PINKIE IN THE RESTAURANT IS REAL ONE!?!?


IS NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THE NEW GENERATION OF PONIES ONLY HAS A CUTIE MARK ON ONE SIDE 😱


there's also the pinkie that survived anyways! the one who was a party pony above Rarity's manehattan store, who knows if she and our pinkie swap places still and that clone pinkie was the one who told the story while our real pinkie was off partying at DJ Pon-3's club?


LOL I knew this theory all along because when I saw pinkie pie when through the pool she went hyper and the other one was the opposite so she must be a clone but good theory


Aw man, we lost Sine & Co. Sine :(
Even tho you had your... Fights here and there, i really liked them both :)
Bring them back, Sawtooth, BRING THEM BACK

Aw man, we lost Sine & Co. Sine :(
Even tho you had your... Fights here and there, i really liked them both :)
*Bring them back, Sawtooth, BRING THEM BACK*


I think original pinkie ran and lived and in the one episode we see a second pinkie spying on the one we know so maybe original pinkie watch’s over the clone to make sure the clone keeps her friends happy


Sawtooth found a cockatrice when they said: “Is that a chicken?”


I know what they mean by this,

Lemme explain what he's saying

So, pinkie pie was killed by twilight. There was multiple clones created. Some of them were killed, and there is one left that we know today as pinkie.
I think this is what he's saying and..

TWILIGHT YOU'RE GUILTY


No she didn’t bc the harmony tree is still connected to her bc last time when the queen of changeling failed to use the tree of harmony magic, by making twilight and them


We know at least one clone lived.... In the episode where Rarity got her new shop


I mean the clone do got the point<br>My brains hurt when he explained it btw

I mean the clone do got the point
My brains hurt when he explained it btw


Actually she didn’t kill them, she just transformed them into souls and made them go back into their worlds. Lol


Or... Sunburst didn't hear it from Pinkie Pie, but rather heard it from multiple ponies removed. And Starlight heard it from perhaps exactly one less remove, if Sunburst was asking for confirmation about the story as Starlight had told it to him.

My bet would be that Twilight told the story to Starlight, and Twilight didn't know how it worked, knew that the clones came out, and, knowing Pinkie, assumed Pinkie just dove in. The assumption wasn't a conscious one, so she never examined it and just - again - assumed it was the truth.


Plot twist: the clones took twilight down and somehow the princess of friendship being gone influenced how divided equestria was in gen5


I mean ...  "Would pinkie know all that stuff?" we only need to look the season 5 episode 11 "Party Pooped" and we can easily explain how any clone could get "their memories back"

Pinkie pie has filed every pony in ponyville and probably has also all information about her parents, friends, vamily, close relavite, cousin and her coursins and her coursins and every member of apple jack's family........

And knowing it is in pinkie pies nature to help those who need help and want to see them smile Pinkie probably would have told them about the place and they might just have found it. It would not take long for this super hyper ADHD pony to skim trough all the papers and study them to the memory with the Hyper Focus to have all the memories.

And it would not be surprising if pinkie pie also had upkeeps on all parties and happenings around the equestria about everyone where she could read and experience the parties after the fact. Like, coming home after party and writing it down and rating them for good or bad and how to improve so NEXT time you can throw even better party and the iteration of failures is part of growing and writing them down and making list of "dislikes" and where it was discovered ...

I would not place that out of reach for Pinkie to make all that work which any clone could just read and live the life? And it is not that far fetched as we ado have the season 5 episode 11 "Party Pooped" where they enter the Slide down to see the filing work she has done....

Opinions?


simply said no even if twilight killed the original and the clone retained all of the memories of the original, the ability to use the element, and the ability to age. Since there are no other pinkies anymore it is now the original it cannot be called a clone.


That's assuming the spell didn't just put the Clones back into the pool perhaps the Pinkie Pie's that got zapped are just stuck in the pool and we all must remember there are leftover Pinkie Pie clones perhaps one of those leftover clones are the original Pinkie Pie assuming that we are stuck with a clone of Pinkie Pie


Aye i was just here for the retrospective i didnt expect to get thrown into a second layer of sawtooth lore