The Nerd City cameo of this video is just a small portion of the testimony he sent to me. You can watch the full video here for great insight on the controversy as it happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWsp7jPTpk
theory: mat knew what he was doing and may possibly holds a grudge (worse than most people) and my have tried to damage the site and community due to a immense amount of greed (ironic) and a crave for fame. oh wait
I actually followed Matts What It Is before his allegations. He was originally a nofap/self improvement channel that was mostly about supporting people trying to break their porn addiction. He deleted most of it and then made the allegations against youtube and it seemed like he was mostly just doing for the quick fame. Kind of sad to see really because his original videos were very real and it seemed like he genuinely wanted to better himself and help people along the way.
Its funny to think that the same people that made quality content for free on the platform will now make hour long videos to gain sympathy for them not making enough money. Its like e-girls complaining that their onlyfans account isn't making enough money because shit is free elsewhere. The YouTuber is a profiteer, very very few make original content and nearly everyone else follows with a worse/more accessible version. Imagine making a multi-part video series about making merch and expecting people to believe you are "just demonstrating how to make good merch has a YouTuber." "HaHa let me vaguely support actually censored people like Sam Hyde, E;R while making 10's of videos about my ad revenue, aren't I so heroic? Anyway lets all donate to the ADL, my Patreon, and Trees. While your at it buy my merch, and support my shitty mobile game sponsor."
@containercore Re the plant aspect, they often don't know that they are plants. They are just people with a history that Comcast, Blackrock etc invest time in to use as the face of thier "good cause". Essentially it's like the Satananic Panic re music. Use kids to push an agenda.
Carlos Maza probably didn't know he was going to usher in a wave of censorship that will keep the boot on the throat of the LGTB community and left leaning political commentators when it comes to flourishing on YOUTUBE, outside a handpicked few from the LGTB vapid section that your see trending CONSTANTLY.. tokens.
Do you think Carlos even knew that NBC bought controling shares in Vox? And suddenly Vox and subsidiaries start putting out anti YouTuber content targeting ads? Do you think Carlos knows that NBC were losing market share to Pewdiepie, Crowder etc so they had to use the gay community to leverage NBC all over YouTube? Try searching any news and see how often NBC pops up vs 4 years ago. Carlos had a silver spoon in his mouth and was perfect fodder for Comcast to use to maintain the narrative to make sure the gov did not break up a nailed on monopoly. Google has to play ball with donors and lobbyists like Comcast so they don't get broken up as a monoply either.
Amazing video by the way. Essentially it's corporate espionage from donors and lobbyists. Illegal. It's not just about NBC etc losing ad revenue where they want people to brofist Fallon instead of Pewds. Or wanting to leverage for cheaper ads on Google. It's about donors keeping eyeballs on them to control a narriative to essentially print money for Wall Street, Gov Contractors, big pharma etc etc.
You're a saint emp, I've been watching for the better half of a decade, all the way back to when you were making your more popular ytps, and your content has not changed in quality. Thank you.
EmpLemon I mean I just want to say here that if I had the option to spark controversy just to get popular to be honest I would. Imagine doing YouTube for so long and not getting any popularity that you just hate almost everybody else who is popular. I mean I always contact more popular people to see if they would hang out with me or do a collaboration or live stream but unfortunately that never works because they’re too greedy for their subscribers to give a shit about people below them. YouTube is like the movie The Platform. There are those above and there are those below the ones above will not listen the ones below are lesser than you. An infinite paradox of people treating each other like shit when was the last time somebody with 100 subscribers that never grew after years of video making get a genuine shout out from somebody popular or famous? Not in a long time especially if they make edgy content.
I also want to state that if somebody did give me a shout out I would not earn a single fucking penny I would not turn on my ad revenue for a very long time because I don’t really care about money that much sure if I had 10000 subs I’d do it but that’s not the point. I don’t mean to get too personal but me being popular and seeing people want to watch me and enjoy the videos I make psychologically would probably make me feel like I have some sort of worth....
This is a stupid question, but when you pretended to be Matt and cat call some one was that some one you knew that you asked to play a role in your video, or was it some random person on the streets? If it is the ladder, is that person okay? Sorry to bother you about this.
So.. you gonna make a part 2 of this because i feel as if theres alot more thats missing. I dont know what it is but i know theres more evidence out there. Somewere. Maybey journalist schools, advertising laws and tactics, theres gotta be somthing that can further the wormhole.
This video is misleading. Matt was not responsible & is right about this. He did the right thing as a part of freedom of speech. Did you know that YouTube founder & Susan was born in Russia during the soviet union? Why you think YouTube is red like communism? There whole system is a communist state like demonetization. Here are the points that you are wrong & why i dont like this video...…4:59 - The algorithm does not recommend more videos but the same repetitive ones all over again, even the ones you watched before. People do not abuse the framework of the algorithm, again why you think its called YouTube? You sound like the same sjw shills defending the sites7:52 - No its not, you must look up about how the vatican planned coppa. 8:26 - Most of youtubers like pewdiepie are shills. All they sell are fucking t-shirts & want profit from there fake bots. They are mainstream, Get it MAINSTREAM?9:15 - Nope, the reason they did not get the attention of this is because they did not sell themselves as shills to YouTube. I like how you support the same cucks idubbz & Ethan simping each other10:36: Matt is right, the 2017 demonetization should have shown everyone to go get a real job 12:18 - 12:46 - Bro, you just contradicted your whole video & show why YouTube is not a great place to be. Not seeing & rejecting this truth is an example of utopia. Boycott has historically worked in person rather by technology, by not accepting this, your for the support of government stealing our money smh12:52 - That's because YouTube is owned by government as a tool for surveillance state, just like the communist do. Stop misleading your subs20:50 - Etika committed suicide because of this garbage platform, obviously it makes YouTube more dangerous than all the social media combined 21:26/22:48/23:05 - Because he has the right to protect himself based on the 4th amendment rights that YouTube hates. He was in risk of his life, just like a average whistleblower would be23:56 - That's the point emp, making everyone aware not gain views or creating debates even though YouTube is evil, why you think he disappeared? 25:12 - Nah, i think YOU just moved in to stupid town without actually researching the vatican & YouTube being communist32:54 - He was not responsible retard, the vatican was33:12 - 33:18: Matt is really making you look stupid. LOOK UP THE VATICAN!34:58 - Keemstar is a j3wish shill, he is gatekeeping YouTube. He scared because of losing money like he is now demonetized, gosh emp you stupid asf. 36:38 - Again, most of them have to be shills in order to become popular like keemstar & pewdiepie38:35 - Why are we cant make nazi memes but we can make communism memes? See emp, YouTube is funded by the communists. You must learn the history of communism, 9/11 or DARPA to fully understand Youtube's purpose50:34 - The vatican is the main agenda The reason why this happen is because the vatican made the coppa through the meeting they had months before. Check this out: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2019/11/14/pope-francis-calls-leaders-and-tech-giants-protect-children-onlinehttps://www.romereports.com/en/2019/11/12/vatican-asks-technology-giants-to-protect-children-on-internet In The End, YouTube is a place where people can prefer to see or hear the truth the way they want rather than find the ultimate truth. This platform is made based of radical ideologies like the history of the internet (Utopia has the same gematria cipher as YouTube btw)Please dont make this lame video next time & find better sources to use
And all of sudden he decide to show his face again (figuratively), and apparently, totally not because of this video –but we all know it was because of this video. He calls it "conspiracy theory Alex Jones thing". He didn't convince me at all.
There's a guy (Sticky_Bob) who makes him 7 questions, and just now I thought of looking this guy's account, he has not been active since posting the questions. He even questions if he's back because of you, which makes total sense to ask. This could very well be one of Matt's other account, so he's making himself specific questions that could help him end his now infamous popularity, perhaps. I only scrolled down on this guy's account once and it looks normal, but the possibility exists, who knows. You guys can further investigate this, and also question him.
Ya know, one day about 6 months I was trying my best to find exactly the kind of content you provide and I couldn’t really find it besides finding “internet historian” who is fantastic. But all these months later I finally stumbled across your channel, as someone a little older and who hasn’t paid too much attention to what’s happened across the internet over the last 10-15 years I’ve found myself wanting to catch up on the major events from a neutral facts based source and your channel is excellent for that so thanks!
Here's an idea for the Industry Plant theory... what if they just hired the cheapest shmuck they could find who they still felt was competent enough to do the job?
Emp love your vids man. Keep it up dude. I found this wormhole of weird child videos that does indeed lead to some pretty sexual things happening. This is mostly weird videos of people in costumes doing very sexual poses or performing motions in such a manner. The further you go down that hole the weirder and weirder it does indeed get. This was a few years ago that I found out about all this. I mean things got WEIRD AS HELL. I told my sister to never let her kids watch youtube or things that would start autoplaying more videos aimed at children because the more you clicked on the sidebar the weirder things got. This was a long time ago and it was yes on a conspiracy forum. The thread was about these videos trying to subliminally expose kids to these sexual postures and actions in what seems in a harmless way. By harmless I mean videos that made no sense in the absolute slightest as far as their story would be. It would be completely random stuff these people would do and it would largely be the things I listed at the beginning of this post. The thread that showed me this weird crap that's out there was about making kids more normalized to sexual actions as they would see people dressed up in superhero costumes humping each other or whatnot. Then there would be videos of actual kids with the camera focused on childrens' areas that was too obvious to someone who isn't a child. Kids doing or showing off their gymnastic flexibility for example - the camera would be focused on what you can guess. And there was A LOT OF IT. Matt reporting it to Youtube is not smart if he really wanted to do something about it. Send that shit to the website you listed, the FBI most of all, yea report it to youtube but don't make it the main focal point. Awareness is what people should've been doing. These videos would have their comments turned on (at least 5 years ago or so when I first made known about this) of mostly adults telling them to "keep it up" "love it!" etc. Really weird.
Like if this was made by matt more aware 5 years ago everyone would be 100x more shocked as to what they could find. Some serious shit would go down even with how matt handled it - because of the nature of the content in the kid videos. If you guys thought it was bad now... you don't want to know what was on youtube in the past 5-7 years. Actual. Legit. CP. Could be found a time around 5-7 years ago. The hole you would have to go down to find this stuff to report would scar you.
So... when are we gonna develop a go to a ACTUAL alternative? I mean, the entire World Wide Web's ethos is violated and corrupted daily by governments, corporations and other organizations for shenanigans defined by their hidden self-interests. Guess what, I have enough of this bullshit. Tell me all what you would like to ask for a niche platform outside the modern internet framework and I will work my way forwards to it. Thank you @EmpLemon for your entire content line, we have such a similar libre mindset that I can only do my duty here by manufacturing such a
@stick the second I agree and His thing bout "Youtubers only care about money" so the Red bearded dude u know the Entire world is about MONEY Quickest Example Your a Good Animator that established themselves you Work 6-8h a day for a 20min animation for a month and like before rely on monitizing And suddenly Its demonetized So instead of finding lets say a job you use your talent and work Hard for a month only to not to get a single penny? Like unless you already have a backup Job Your Literly FUCKED
@stick the second No it didnt mean you i meantthe red bearded dude which i already forgot the Name of and Yeah kids shouldnt be on youtube tho like you said the other part was just me bieng mad at the Red bearded dude i shouldve seperated it into two comments (part after this edited in) i meant Matt in Emplemons vid
"Many high-profile YouTubers have taken a stance against child exploitation"
>Shows PewDiePie, whose channel's popularity is built on the backs of kids that grew up watching his videos over the years and is under an exclusive contract with YouTube, H3, who has proven to be willing to suck up to the Wojcickis to keep making profitable content on YouTube regardless of the outcome of others, and PyroCynical, who was involved in a polytheistic relationship with a minor on Discord.
I hate to break it to you, but most YouTubers really are greedy, hence, why you'll see many of them seek sponsorships, even if they already demand that their viewers donate to their patreon for sub-par content that isn't even worth screenshooting and downloading to redistribute for free, and yet, get pissy when they can't get paid for the ads on their videos to play.
Though, I'm on the channel where someone said in one video that they didn't care if they got paid or not, and only wanted their videos to be seen, yet, made an entire video bitching about "muh monetization" that's dedicated to one of his movie reviews because it got age restricted, assuming there's a reason why said person simply didn't migrate to Odysee, despite having a decent following by this point.
My theory is he was basically sick of Youtube and frustrated he couldnt make a living on it. He knew how it worked, but his content just wasnt good enough to generate. So he started this entire debacle as sort of the last ditch molotov, then called it quits. Reddit, did what Reddit does. His video got huge from that at first, and everyone with ulterior motives began latching on. Advertisers, companies and especially online news-sites who have this constant competition / vendetta against this platform.
Just Occam's razor IMO. No red-pill conspiracies to see here. Just a disgruntled person, a cleaver appeal to emotion campaign, and echo chambers doing what they do best: blindly accepting anything that reaffirms their biases.
The disgruntled YouTuber hypothesis doesn't make any sense, in my opinion. This was corporate, how the schedules all line up perfectly is way too suspicious. Watson's bizarre history on the platform doesn't disprove this hypothesis either, and in fact it helps obfuscate the agenda, anyone looking to hire someone for this kind of stunt wouldn't go for a blank slate. There is also the fact that the supposed exploitation was already being heavily discussed on several online forums prior to Watson's video, so there was a non-negligible and very loud swath of the Internet already very receptive to this message. Claiming that this was all about a disgruntled YouTuber only makes sense superficially, and ignores a huge portion of the story. You can't Occam's Razor this one without setting aside important details.
Tbh I think it’s either some mad dude or a guy who some corporations decided to pick up as an agent for whatever bizarre money saving ad scheme came from this. I’m leaning more towards the corporate idea because of what appears when you take a closer look at everything involved with him.
He was probably motivated by a combination of factors. He could have been both generally spiteful of the YouTube community both due to his own lack of success and his underlying political agenda. Emp's last theory is probably the most farfetched but the pre-existing beef between YT and its advertisers would explain the eagerness with which the media and companies latched onto this narrative.
AlternateHistoryHub That why I already hate his guts, I do feel sorry that he didn’t make a sustainable career on YouTube, but you shouldn’t destroy other’s careers just because yours didn’t get of the ground I might be missing something, but that’s the vibe I got from him.
I definitely agree - he isn't intelligent enough to think too far ahead, and this makes the most sense to someone like Matt. No extreme ulterior motive, just a kamikaze attack before moving on.
I believe you did to try get a job in the mainstream most likely BuzzFeed of course they can't have him do any projects at the time, his stunt still hasn't fully blown over yet since we all still remember it. He used the same kind of language they use hell he even liked to use the same tactics they use as well. He was pretty much giving any news organization his resume.
I couldn’t help but read this whole thing in your voice “Hey Jimmy, want to wreck the livelihoods of the next wave of media that has usurped radio and television?”
What do Political ideas have to do with this theory? I think the strange way that this occurred shows there’s something deeper to the motives, but this theory isn’t really related to his politics.
His channel was originally a self improvement and nofap channel. Because the words fap and porn were mentioned it was demonetized by youtube (even though it was a channel discouraging these things, didn't matter). I think the bitterness and resentment were probably a real motive.
aside for contradictions pointed out in the 2nd and 3rd theory you have to realize how corporations have utilized seemingly morally good things and socially progressive agendas to increase their profit
maybe matt was a lefty, and he really wanted to take a dig at the people who push you through the pewdiepipeline, BUT when corporations saw this as an opportunity to pull out of the business agreement and come back with cheaper offers,they over exposed him
OR maybe,matt was not a lefty,and not to be conspiratorial here but he maybe made a manufactured moral crisis to do the same thing i said above
Papa John I think he was just angry that so many right wing channels found easy popularity. It invigorated him that people see saw as “nazis” were successful while he wasn’t. He felt/feels they shouldn’t be allowed to even think that way, so of course he doesn’t want to see them succeed. Especially when he’s not.
I think all three of the theories are plausible, but only two of them are probable. It's hard for me to believe that companies are willing to shoot themselves in the foot for any period of time just make their services cheaper on ads, but it's highly believable that Matt was personally politically motivated against not only the YouTubers responsible for child pornography, but also in a way him being against the idea that the corporations are tied directly to them. The only way we'll be able to confirm anything is if Matt comes out one day telling the truth.
AlternateHistoryHub bruh off topic but you need to continue that series where people submitted alternate histories and you talked about them. Anyway I agree with you on your statement.
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Some Bonehead2020-03-28 18:05:55 (edited 2020-03-28 18:18:03 )
@Miselus Yeah, I agree. I don't think he was explicitly an industry plant, I think that he was just the right catalyst at the right time for media companies to latch on to, and force YouTube's hand. Assuming this is the case, the fact that his politics also lined up nicely with the corporations' goals in the end is just a little bonus for them. These two factors together make it seem like there's a deeper conspiracy, but I just don't believe that.
God. I can already see the melodramatic biopic about Matt's life. A scene with some smug, enigmatic Corporation Man with sunglasses offering Matt a suitcase of money. Giving him vague platitudes about how he'll no longer be ignored. How together, they can create consequences for the platform that scorned him.
@Papa John I think it could be a mix of both of those, as he was a failed youtuber, as well as a angry leftist, I feel both of them made him have resent the creators on youtube
>he was jealous so he wanted revenge It's stupid the more likely option is that he was an agent of chaos , or doesn't like youtube for other reasons (don't need to explain really) and wanted to blow 'em up
nah bro. nah. there's no way anyone would do this shit just cause they failed at yt. and if he was able to get this popular for the boycott why not just make your normal videos popular? it just doesn't add up
Yeah... No, it had to be at least partly ideological
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Joseph Mother2021-08-22 20:57:09 (edited 2021-08-22 21:01:07 )
That....that makes too much sense, but I do not understand why anyone would do that, my contents not trending, but that doesn't mean try to destroy YouTube, but I have a brain, unlike this guy
i know this shit is old but yall honestly dont know what yall are talking about, I used to watch him before all this BS. He started his channel making "nofap" videos its basically a movement to stop porn addiction and he would just talk about his life and shit, he wasn't really trying to be a "youtuber" if that makes sense. He deleted all those videos and vanished and he came back with this. I think he cared and he just didn't understand youtube. He was never really trying to be a youtuber.
My theory is that all that is nonsense and this video is just apologetics and propaganda by A big YouTuber directly sponsored by YouTube itself to deflect criticism
To me, I feel like Matt got some pretty horrific post-nut clarity and was horrified (and ashamed) when Youtube started recommending similar videos afterwards.
People who usually present themselves as super anti-“thing” tend to actually be pro-“thing” in private. The goal is to distract people away from your misdeeds by assuming the role of someone who “definitely will never be that guy”
@Kurt E. Clothier Alabama literally just passed a law that goes against academic consensus by outlawing the more effevtive forms of treatment for trans kids and forcing teachers to disclose non-gender conforming behaviour to parents. According to every body with authority on how to help and prevent suicidality in trans people this will do nothing but spike the rates of depression, mental illness, and suicidality in that population.
Guess what it is called: "Vulnerable Child Compassion and Protection Act" and an unsettilingly large number of abstinence only education laws are named and cited as trying to "protect children" despite solely having negative consequences for society. If any law or bill mentions kids in the title flags should be raised in your head. Any time someone mentions kids for their laws a lot of research should be done.
@Haruhiro Grimgar i remember this 'study' that was conducted, having 2 identical twins. one was forced to transition, the other did not. Guess which one killed themselves?
@Kalypso And did you bother to look at literally the consensus of studies on how to work with or help trans youth? How one of if not the best predictor for if a trans person commits suicide is did their family support them?
@Haruhiro Grimgar Harvard also said at one time that candy was good for your teeth. One random site cherry-picking results does not mean jack shit. Stop misinforming people. . A child can very easily be confused, or manipulated into giving results that the study wants. Most people don't even understand themselves and understand who they really are until around 20. I've felt the way I do since 5 years old, but from asking around, I know i am a severe anomaly and I admit those feelings could have been wrong. I wrestled with that for my entire childhood and teen years, until 16 when I was sure. Just stop talking for us. All you people seem to do is spread misinformation and lies to try and 'protect' us. We do not need protecting.
@Kalypso The issue is you have provided no counter sources or evidence. You are just saying because you are trans your prescription is therefore stronger than my academic sources.
If you want to prove me or my statements wrong you need to provide or link academic articles or bodies. Not just anecdotal experience or one-off incidents. The reason I went with the meta-analysis is because it is combining the academic findings of many institutions and researchers to find a common consensus. It isn't just some researcher cherry-picking, it is combining the results of a mass number of academically verified documents.
My argument lies in the fact that transitioning is PERMANENT. If you were mistaken, you have no do-overs. That's why it's bad for children to transition. Children don't understand there own feelings enough to make those decisions.
@Kalypso The law doesn't solely prevent transition. It outlaws all forms of treatment ranging from hormone therapy to puberty blockers. Not only that the law compels teachers to inform parents when the kid has "non-gender conforming behaviours" in other words tell the parents before the kid might be ready to. And transition when paired with the proper counsel seems to be generally beneficial. Not having the option altogether is a horrible idea.
@Haruhiro Grimgar They shouldn't have the option until 18, arguably 16 as 16 year olds know about themselves more than a 7-8 year old would, but idk if it's enough. Transitioning is a permanent thing, and if any person messes up in diagnosing that child.... Coaching is a thing. I've seen mothers try and force their boy children to transition. I just don't think it's a good idea overall.
@Kalypso You need to provide data to back up your positions. And people are not getting transitional surgery before the age of 18. This isn't something happening or being pushed for by these academic bodies.
The law is making it more difficult for trans kids to seek treatment or get extra time before deciding to transition. Puberty blockers are meant to be used to prevent the growth of secondary sexual characteristics up until 16 (and the second you take someone off of them then they go right through puberty with essentially no side-effects.) This makes it cheaper if someone decides to transition later (with most professionals in favour of being at least 21) and provide them extra time for counseling until then.
On top of blocking the prescription of hormones and compelling teachers to tell a kids parents before the child might be comfortable with it (in a deeply conservative and religious state which are generally not supportive of trans-people.) This law does nothing but harm trans kids.
@Haruhiro Grimgar no i don't. I'm not actually trying to prove anything. YOU want me to believe in your nonsense. You have the burden of proof. i'll prove myself when you do.
@Kalypso I already linked two academic papers and listed three majour organizations in agreement, I can link you their official stances and resources if you so desire, that info is hardly hidden. What more evidence do you need before considering this law would be solely harmful?
@Haruhiro Grimgar You are proving it TO ME. Not anyone else. Those 'academic papers' are not enough to convince me. If you wanna prove it, then give me more! If you really cared about this subject so much you would have more than 2 'academic papers' that have nothing more than circumstantial evidence.
@Kalypso those "academic papers" are not even scientific to begin w/. also, about the video w/ the kid transitioning? yup, i saw it. i think those who conducted the experiment should aught to be tor**red and killed. the same degree aught to be tor**red and killed like those who conduct the "attachment therapy" to candace newmaker.
@Kalypso 4 Months old but I just got notified about this comment thread. You seem to have 0 comprehension of what a Meta-analysis is. In one of those "papers" I listed they went over the results of 55 studies that were done over several decades.
You cannot give stronger sources than meta analysis and professional opinions of the largest organizations related to the topic. I have not only cited you more studies than you have probably ever read in your life, but the word of organizations who are in-part responsible for the mental and physical healthcare of millions of people. All while they are held to incredibly standards by other academics, academic bodies, publications, and the legal system.
I don't find it reasonable to trust 1 incident coming from a random person on the internet when there are bodies of people with more accountability being held to them than we would have if we murdered someone.
@Haruhiro Grimgar Why are you trying so hard. People unable to see the difference between scientific skepticism and scientific denialism already are barely able to be considered humans. Why are you so desperately trying to shove his head with simple definitions such as what a meta-study is ? Not worth your time. I deeply appreciate the willpower, but you're better off spending your time researching and reading papers...
@26CLT Ignoring the obvious dig, the parents gave consent due to the doctor convincing them it was the best course of action, and of fucking course it wasn't.
@26CLT If you want to learn about it, it's around. It's not that hard to find. It's why all these people wanting kids to transition and trying to convince people that kids should transition pisses me off. If they really cared to find out, they would know better. It's all for themselves, not their child.
The most suspicious thing about Matt for me is the fact he never left an anonymous tip off to law enforcement. It’s extremely easy to do, very safe, and just common sense. His aim was not to target predators but to target a corporation that predators are leeching off of. The way he so quickly and vehemently shot down anyone who contacted him to even discuss the possibility of a different solution was kind of unsettling. It just doesn’t make sense unless he has a weird ulterior motive. That and his extremely inconsistent level of technological competence. That part absolutely reeks of B.S.
If you go to Matt's video the comment section is almost entirely redditors and 37 year olds singing his praise and unironically saying we live in a society. It didnt matter how BS everything is, because when you're appealing to the dumbest of the dumb, you can do anything and make it seem like magic
His aim was most certainly not to target the corporation. It was to simply lie to gain a following. If he was just trying to make Youtube lose money, I would commend him for that. But its not what he did
@Mario I can’t really say I support trying to tear down YouTube either. Doing that hurts countless innocent creators just trying to earn a living while entertaining people and following their passions for video making. Not that I have any love for YouTube the company or google, but YouTube the platform is a different thing entirely.
@OutlawPrince You are correct, there are countless other corporations to target for their business practice before YouTube. Nestle and Disney come to mind
He had a manic episode, it got out of hand, and other people got involved. His lack of engagement is either a combination of embarrassment and ego, or just plain ego; He's too prideful to admit he did anything wrong, and whether or not he's embarrassed or believes that what he did was right, we'll never know. Dude dipped like some chicken sticks.
I'm not a fan of passing off shitty people and their behavior as mental illness and episodes so kindly refrain from using words like manic or delusion.
Many streams have been called “The Worst Live Stream of All Time”, and it’s usually an exaggeration. But Matt’s final broadcast where he angrily grinds his teeth as he reads the chat and then periodically calls his viewers “losers” might be the actual worst meltdown I’ve ever seen.
Nerd City Don’t know if you’ll have the chance to read.
But I just wanted to say that you make some of my favorite content on the internet. Thank you for the all time and effort you put into your work. I genuinely appreciate it.
Nerd City has too much skill and ability to be as decent as they are. How long till we find out that the devil is actually Lucifer Morningstar himself??
@ImmaLittlePip Those are small fries, though. Of course there are always going to be other people that have like ten viewers and scream and cry. But this guy had thousands and thousands of viewers. Thousands and thousands of people watched this sad and fat failure get almost to the point of tears as he was faced with the reality that his plan was failing live on camera.
You know the situation is really fucked when good old Keemstar is the level headed one. Doesn’t happen very often but when it does it’s a great metric for seeing how crazy/shitty someone is.
Keemstar is like the weird anti-hero of youtube. Everybody kinda hates him because he's a self absorbed gnome, but he steps up to the plate whenever his interests align with the rest of the youtube community.
Its hard to not to respect him a bit, even if he might be doing the right thing for the wrong reasons
As much as I dislike him, when it comes to his opinions on YT as a platform and making things better for all creators, he actually has some good takes.
YTP actually makes people into very good video editors over time and they often have little trouble switching to other types of content... Biodegradable became an editor for TRO, MoBros made anim8ball, Emp's doing this, and just look at some high-quality YTPs like Deliver Us, spingebill faces final judgement, or link: the boy: the movie: the trailer
@uranium54321 This is very true. If you want a fantastic example, look at Numberer 1. Started off doing YTP's, now he edits for Game Theory. And he STILL does YTP's on the side!
This comment thread is convincing me I should make YTPs. As even if they are crap they'll help me edit better when I decide to buckle down and make serious videos.
bananasinfrench it’s so fucking weird and slightly baffling. Growing up watching YTP and seeing people then turn to make content like this, good googly moogly.
@LJK401 so basically, If you had a different opinion on politics, Your content is garbage no matter how Godlike the editing, Scriptwriting, Pacing, etc?
@LJK401 not really, High quality is something with high production value that took a lot of time and effort to make. If someone made a video saying "All blacks, Asians, Childrens, Females, Jews should burn in hell" with godlike editing, Scriptwriting, filiming, etc. I would hate the video for spreading hate messages, But I wouldn't call it low quality.
It actually makes more sense than you might think. Remember that Bruce Willis used to be a family friendly comedy actor. No one thinks of him like that any more, but ask anyone over 50 years old. They'll say they were surprised by Die Hard because it was so far out of type for Willis.
Nah, im gonna mix all three theories. He was an angry failed YouTuber who was also very much left leaning and felt YT unfairly pandered to the alt right (despite literally every action in recent years showing them trying to pander to left leaning circles).
It just happened that either corporations reached out to him, he reached out to them, or he was already in a decent position at one and they offered him the job to be an online reputation assassin and he took it to own the reds (both YT and the right) while being too stupid or possibly too money hungry to realize it would harm his own political ties too.
I like how one of reddits most upvoted videos in the sites history was, in fact, a scam that could be disproven within an hour or less. Never change reddit, never change.
Matt is the ultimate Youtube paradox. He has quite good understanding of deeper internet minutiae, yet fundamentally misunderstands the consequences of his actions. He knows how to rile up a giant mob of people, yet has no interest in talking to the people who could actually help him and his cause. He went through the hassle of submitting anonymous emails to news sources, but had his name and face plastered all over the campaign. It's such a mixture of intelligence and incompetency that it's virtually impossible to try and figure out what the fuck he's actually trying to do. It's incredible in and of itself
the reddit hive mind is probably one of the worst things in the internet, the all website devolved into one big propaganda and terrible memes, I miss 2013 reddit
Even our subreddits joking about how much of a hive mind reddit has become hive minds, it awful and I don’t know why I still use the site at this point.
If this proves anything, is how fragile the Internet is. Honestly I'm not sure how much the Internet is going to further revolutionize society if Matt can manipulate it so easily
@Austin that would lead to a dictator of the internet. This famously does NOT go well. Also it's easier to rile up a crowd into an angry destructive mob than it is to calm them into a productive and good team, so I doubt that'd work anyway...
This didn't happen because of a literally who ginger. This happened because it was opportune to the media companies - for the clicks - and to the advertisers. Society isn't being revolutionized anytime soon.
The Internet doesn’t revolutionize society. People revolutionize society. Whether or not Matt had any kind of good incentive, what he did was technically the most revolutionary act this platform has ever seen, and proves what it ACTUALLY takes to convince the masses to do what you need it to do.
Flyingclam its fragile because of how humans work, he knows how to manipulate people and a lot of the internet is extremely social and economical 2 things that influence eachother
The internet will continue to change things, just because people can manipulate, doesn't mean it could last. Everyone forgot about this dude, the advertisers came back, and pedos still watch junior ballet classes on YT.
The Printing Press revolutionized society to the point of toppling empires. You can establish a direct link between it and the French Revolution for example. That's a 350 years gap. There's A LOT of things in between that led to it, but they all started with the Press.
Anyways, people seem to forget the Internet has been around for little more than a generation. Infrastructure started been laid down in the 80. Scholars point to 1995 with Windows 95 bringing it to the common public. Youtube is just 13 years old.
Rules, regulations and norms will eventually come to regulate it. Just like they did with the standards of Journalism back in the day. Until legal structures are in place to beat it into shape, the Internet is pretty much a wild west right now. And because the nature of people is to rape an exploit until it's patched, abuses, predatory behavior and unfairness will exist until they're slammed with regulations. Because shitheads like these are only capable of thinking ahead up to their next meal, they fuck it for everyone to get a slight edge.
@Spencer Grady alright we post memes that are top tier kek on their boards so AHS sees it. Trys to ban the subreddit. Then finally once AHS is the only one we just nuke them with memes till they give up
@asd against hate subreddits They became the very thing they sought to destroy. They have become so consumed with hate they dont even see the irony. Lots of subreddits have disbanded in the wake of AHS making a letter to admins. Now this isn't confirmed but there have been some sources of AHS posting child porn on alts in order to shut down subs they hate.
I'm a Redditor, kind of a part of the hivemind. Should I stay away from subreddits like r/dankmemes and similar ones to prevent myself from being a massive douche?
Turning your hate into a fuel to cyberbully Redditors is ironically the most Reddit thing you could do. Just leave them alone and don't allow them enter your communities.
CoinFlip I presume it’s because Reddit thinks they’ll singlehandedly take down Netflix, thinking of themselves as a sort of saviour to the internet when they’re really not.
@Moparty 440 yeah, especially with the upvote/downvote system. You say something that doesn’t appeal to the hivemind, and you get downvoted to the ground.
@Moparty 440 no, youtubers did because of the influx of users, some subreddits set to private if they get found out by the larger community, subreddits are good until they get more than 100k subs
@enriktigasna really? Man they are good at hiding then. Only one I know is tendyhotspot after the boogies faked their death. Didn't occur to me that others will do the same
@Armaan Sandhu against hate subreddit just go to reddit and see for yourself r/Ahs They have gotten better after a quarantine but it is better for you to judge for yourself
I mean, it was already said, all social media kinda fucking sucks. Tictok makes people do nigh deadly things (ex: drinking benadryl), Instagram is infinitely critical to a depressing level, Twitter is twitter, etc.
The huge influx of YouTube kids coming from pewdiepie and other "Reddit tubers" made all the meme subs go to shit, then the Karens and SJW's came in and banned the funny edgy stuff. Now reddit openly lets pro-CCP (Chinese communist party) subreddits who DENY GENOCIDES keep going on the site while banning edgy meme subreddits and pushes political hive mind subreddits take the front page. A classic example of too many people surging onto a site that wasn't made for high volumes of people and making it go to shit.
@Moparty 440 then there's Subreddit Drama, which is really just posting stuff from r/conservative to get karma. Funny enough, people on there really say that r/politics is better. That's a massive lie
@Spregged72 no, Tumblr died after the porn ban. I’m pretty sure all of the users ended up moving to Reddit, which is what led to that turning into pure cancer not long after Tumblr’s porn ban.
Or how about all the subreddits that give you useful advice, all the stories on askreddit, or all the animal picture subreddits? I ain't denying the fact it's a cesspool and there's circlejerk after circlejerk. I know there's bad stuff everywhere, but the same goes for youtube, Twitter, 4chan, Tumblr, almost every news outlet ect ect. It's not just reddit that's bad, be angy about something else.
This is a big reminder that every single userbase has its bad apples. For example, some people on YouTube still have Pepe profile pictures in the year 2021.
I stopped using Reddit for a 5-6 years and since coming back a few months ago have had maybe 3 or 4 instances where people have corrected me on the gender identities of video game characters.
That in itself isn't surprising, you click on their account and obviously its the usual "she/her" but actually just a guy in a dress types obviously spamming this shit, its the fact that when I reply "Are you seriously trying to argue with me for 'misgendering' a video game character you sad fuck." I get downvoted to oblivion and they get upvoted.
I like the theory that he's a political shill, his overall attitude, the means he took to achieve his goal and the subreddits he used to post into were all similar to the kind of behavior seen in Twitter outrage mobs. It's a damn shame, because Watson took a very serious issue that needed fixing, and made it about his personnal vendetta against youtube for political capital and reddit gold.
I’m glad I found your channel, really good stuff, keep it up. You could be right about him being a corporate plant, regardless advertisers certainly used it as a huge bargaining chip. It does seem as though this particular controversy was inevitable as it is very easy to appeal to the fear in the uneducated masses.
The way he vanished after getting so much attention and validation makes me wonder if this was an actual social experiment. It doesn't seem like he had any greater motive other than seeing how far he could go by using a sensitive situation to manipulate the public. Kind of makes him even more reprehensible than the usual grifter who is just pulling at the heart strings for clout and cash.
>"this quarantine was getting boring enough" bro this video was posted like 3 days after quarantine started... how tf did you handle the next like 14 months of it
@nev the punk Oh it was like 2-3 weeks after quarantine started in my area, but if you're wondering I mostly just played videogames, I didn't develop some kind of cabin fever or anything like that but it did get a little tedious at points.
I’m actually really glad that you covered this controversy in this video. That flower with “you’ve got scammed sweetheart” after the patreon credit roll is honestly chef kiss material. Well done.
I was onto him from the start. I saw his post when it was climbing to the front page of Reddit and I saw every live stream. I knew something was off, and when I started digging in, he hadn't fully cleaned up his tracks. I confronted him about it in the livestreams and he shadowbanned me. I made a second account just to try and be a little more clever, but I was still too forward. He was shadowbanning everyone who seemed to know anything about him.
I made my own video shortly after, and I've always had a bone to pick with him. It's so evident that his argument was a smokescreen. I don't think he's a plant at all, I think he was trying to find a twisted way to cope with a twisted habit he had; looking at little girls. It just happened to work perfect for woke culture at the time, and is essentially the first stone tossed in "cancel culture" as we've seen it today.
I don't know, the two theories about Matt's motives both seem very fictional. His political standpoint is combined with publishing on and attacking one of the biggest companies of the world to come to the conclusion that he is motivated by political struggle in this personal battle. The second one is based on barely anything but the fact that the video upload happened at the same time as annual negotiations. Does not convince me, but the video is great!
this is basically like having a leak in your house, so you demolish your entire house down, demolish all the houses surrounding it, and then blame it on the government because it's their fault you have a leak. it's overkill and it's a complete 'scorched earth' tactic.
I absolutely love these YouTube Geographic videos you make, along with any other documentary! It’s so strange that I would enjoy this over watching someone gaming or YouTube poops.
Man I never heard the whole fallout from Matt's video and campaign. Thank you for putting so much damn effort into these videos! My favorite quote: "Stop trying to milk this for attention." Holy shit, that is just rich coming from Keemstar of all people.
Dr. Freeeeeeemaaaaaan.. I realize this might not be the most convenient time for a.. heart-to-heart. But I had to wait until your friends were otherwise.. occupied..
Pay attention, Mister Freeman... I'm only going to say this, once.
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Lil Peet2021-05-22 20:42:16 (edited 2021-05-22 20:42:57 )
So because the recommended algorithm is based on the videos you’ve been watching/searching... does this mean that Matt could have literally looked up and watched CP beforehand?
try searching up some random video thats on a popular topic, like "health science" or whatever. in the recommended bar, you'll see maybe a few other health science videos, but you'll also see a lot of your regular recommended channels. you haven't gone into a "wormhole" of health science videos. Now, try going on a blank youtube account and searching "health science". suddenly you've gone into a "wormhole" of ONLY HEALTH SCIENCE VIDEOS! WOW, WHAT A SURPRISE. Matt acted like it was even more insane that he was able to get into the "wormhole" in a blank youtube account, but THATS THE ONLY REASON IT LOOKED LIKE A "WORMHOLE"
@Lyrawh Was it a blank channel was it not his original channel? You're right but I thought it was his original channel and assumed he had looked this up multiple times before
The most memorable thing about the situation a year ago was when Matt Watson from Supermega was confused as this dude so he was sent dozens of death threats
When I first heard of everyone being mad at a Matt Watson I was so confused, because we all know how much of a good Christian boy he is. Then I found out about Matt "Mysterious Man" Watson.
@CallanLoF I believe he did. I can't recall the exact video, but Ryan and him mentioned it briefly. Edit: I misremembered! It was actually just Matt, in the Official Podcast. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/rSQBVz5yCP4
@CallanLoF yea, I think in one of their podcast episoded they said it was the perfect reason for Matt to get verified (the vid was pre twitter verification)
I used to watch matt when he was uploading the old self-help content now deleted from his channel. I used to enjoy his content because it had the feeling of a man who had good intentions and was documenting his efforts to improve his life, however the means he used were not always intuitive. Many of his videos pointed to him making overly emotional and impulsive decisions which hindered his improvement, such as following a creepy and uncomfortable programme to approach girls as a way to combat his social anxiety. This programme seemed to help his at first, but only hindered him in the long term.
Matt seemed to be trying to navigate the world without a map and would often fall off track before pulling himself back. I was very surprised to see his YouTube wake up video, though it did match his approach to many problems in his life, an irrational and overblown approach to a problem that could be solved in a much better way.
I don't think hes an industry plant, though idk for sure. In my opinion hes just a misguided man who wanted to do good but allowed his emotions to cloud his judgement.
Coming back to this video and the Nerd City Testimony, made me once again think about his motivation. I think Nerd City is right in assessment, that Matts driving force was a perceived righteous anger and that he rode an emotional high by exposing it and getting praised for it. Rage is a surprisingly addictive emotion. While I dont think that Theory 1&2 were the true reason behind YTWakeup, they were motivations at the back of Matts mind, that made him resent YT already quite a bit. Then he discovered his Wormhole and flew into a rage. Rather than thinking rationaly on the best course of action, he acted impulsively and chose a destructive path. Rather than focusing on protecting children, his main goal became to punish YT for letting it happen, partially motivated by his resentment. That this wouldnt really help children, didnt cross his mind, and he dismissed that he would hurt many innocent Ytubers, because in his mind other Ytubers were the big channels that got more success than him. Theory 3 just doesnt hold up, because of amateurish Matt is. However Advertisers were probably looking for another controversy and used YTWakeup as a convenient oppurtunity. As more and more people turn against him on Livestream, the emotional high ends, he realizes that he screwed up and goes into hiding, instead of admitting to his mistakes.
i love how matt says that youtubes algorithms point people towards creepy child predation content but anyone who know how youtube works knows that your recommended videos are based on your viewing history and your subscriptions. meaning that matt was outing himself as a creep by doing this.
@jonathan vamos Maybe not with internet stuff. Fred Knudsen, IH, Whang and WavyWebSurf, and Emp are bigger on internet lore, with Emp's reach extending to multiple topics with Never Ever, and more YT focused content with Youtube Geographic. I feel that TRO and j aubrey are more in the same, in focusing on only YT related drama and history (although j aubrey is more of a wildcard, with essays on Eric Andre, Jon Stewart, Kanye and, most recently, John McAfee).
@Jordan Clarke He does...this one is clearly segmented. Most of his Never Evers and YTGs are segmented, and mind you, TRO's editing skills can't match Emp's.
TRO is good, but from the technical standpoint, Emp takes it. I'd say TRO has the better scripting from the two, though.
@Jordan Clarke TRO once said if someone can create content and do it with less work more power to them. Emp and tro are both good but emp puts in less work and puts out as high quality
@Kalan Rodregue emp puts in more work. Tro has shitty still images of his shitty animated character, emp combines and samples many different clips to create interesting and entertaining visuals. Seems like more effort to me
i love how critically this guy thinks. hes not just any old rational thinker, hes a rational thinker that successfully tells people what he thinks, he does a damn good job, and he doesnt get mad when people dont like him for it.
I spend so much time watching so many different channels this series is awesome. I could go for hundreds of these videos about any old channel, really. Super dope
I know I'm 7 months late but it's most likely a combination of a few things & not just one thing specifically. Personally I believe that Matt being a failed YouTuber combined with his political ideology were at least the 2 biggest factors. The advertisers benefiting was just them being scavengers
Depending on how long this was planned for, the political aspect is interesting. It could act as a red herring, "oh he's just a political moron" and stop anyone from looking deeper.
@Zulfburht Perhaps he worked at a competitor to YouTube and when caught he said "Uh this is just research for my plan to uh to uh get big advertisers off of YouTube!" and then had to go along with the idea so he wouldn't be exposed
@Shamus Townshend was abused as a child and was researching for his autobiography. I’m pretty sure it’s been proven he didn’t look at anything and just used a credit card. another thing, it’s been said he was trying to see if it was real
Everytime I hear that youtube right wing bullshit I laugh, youtube does the exact same thing for radical left wing content, its just the vast majority of youtubers, companies, and institutions act left wing, because thats where the cultural idea of “cool” and “rebellious” is right now. We can do it and its not bad so no shit Its only a problem when the other side does it
I doubt you'd ever see this, but I really appreciate your use of GT music in your videos, and ofc the hard work. Thanks Emp, your videos are something else
49:20 I'm into ARG web series: long serial narratives that use social media (often a mix of YT and Twitter) as their storytelling medium and the involved accounts fully stay in-character (as if they were actual posts from an alternative reality). I've seen multiple cases where they used YouTube channels that already existed. Reusing an existing but obscure channel is good because it can give the character a sense of realness. Especially if the character has the same name as the actor. So that's not a detriment at all. even if the old content is controversial, that's just a free red herring!
the fact that his true identity has never been revealed by someone who knows him irl despite showing his face, makes me question if his entire person was some kind of experiment. maybe the older videos are there for a back story to throw people off of him being a fabrication. sounds crazy but not impossible
Big Corp is behind the life of a millennial man, they created it, like The Truman Show but for shilling companies fully knowing that's his purpose
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Ben W2020-04-15 09:05:11 (edited 2020-04-15 09:14:48 )
Strange....
What would youtube itself have to gain by losing a massive chunk of it's own creators after losing several advertisers? Are the rumors true that YouTube heavily favors left-wing politics, and that left-aligned and neutral channels tend to get easier sponsorship deals (making ad rev less important)?
Is it true that "Matt" likes buzzfeed but doesn't like Fox news? Why?Could this be a political actor launching an attack on youtube to eliminate a good chunk of conservative voices? Was there a politically-motivated "adpocalypse" before this? After?
What is the emotional selling point of SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, and the EARNIT Act? Why must we always "think of the children"? If we are thinking of the children, what other thoughts must we stop thinking?
Could this actor be an employee or working in corroboration with YouTube itself or it's political allies? What about working for a political candidate past, present, or future-proof? How quickly did the advertisers come back? Were there any that never came back?
Is it possible that the rabbits hole goes even further down?
2 choices: red pill... this is the bottom of the rabbit hole. You will be blissfully unaware of anything else at play
Black pill: you keep digging until you find the ultimate truth, and nothing more.
If he showed his face for all the world to see, sooner or later, he's gonna be spotted by someone who knew him for what he did. In order to hide himself, he scrubbed his social media presence clean, whether it's reddit, facebook or youtube. He probably uses a VPN to prevent tracking or doxxing. His name probably was a psuedonym, so it's no problem at all if his persona is an equivalent to a throwaway e-mail account, so his personal info would not be affected.
He probably did everything he can to change his appearance, maybe get a new hairstyle, peircings, plastic surgery, change of clothes just to blend in with the crowd.
He probably would get a mundane job where people would recoginize him less or cater to an older demographic, such as a blue-collar job, or being a Uber driver. The less facial exposure, the better.
If his presence is just a persona, then all his actions, speech patterns, and expressions would be very different, or akin to his actual person. If he wanted to be kept hidden, then he should watch what he says, thus decreasing his risk to be recognized.
Anything can happen if someone wanted a quiet life.
My theory is that his chanel was designed to be a scumbag chanel to cause a panick (he was supposed to be a fall guy for a narrative) but then his chanel was repurposed when nobody saw his videos. It makes more sense. if they were ti point to his content to sanitize the platform people would laugh at his low sub count.
I like how the fabrication of the whole channel sounds like, I would also add a theory that he was already working white collar job at the company that has relations towards the ad distribution, so that it would make more sence they would pick one of their workers to do the job at inflaming mass hystria who already has YouTube presence so that it wouldn't look too fabricated, and also hides his real persona so that the company won't get busted the moment someone finds out who Matt really is and who he is connected to. Sounds conspiritorical but at least fun to brainstorm at
I'm just imagining that Matt is just some god tier level 3D modeler that uses said model to hide his face, And he made this whole controversy to show off his talent to random people on the internet
He used to make videos about nofap. That’s all. He had like maybe 5,000 subs or something like that. He deleted all of those vids on his first channel before he started this weird campaign. His second channel was just humor related to his first channel making fun of the porn industry or stuff like that. The second channel is the one that you can still go look at the old videos.
How has this man not been Doxxed..... How did 4chan not catch this man. Those fuckers managed to find Shia Lebuff hiding in some empty house in the middle of nowhere and sent his pizzas...... How could Matt Watson be the real life equivalent of Frank "Gorland" from the fucking Bioshock Series
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Anderson Wang2021-08-26 21:01:33 (edited 2021-08-26 21:01:58 )
I don’t know his true identity per say, but through several videos of his I can clearly identify that he lives (or once lived) in Victoria, BC, Canada.
Source: I once travelled there to visit my friends and I’ve been to most of these landmarks that were featured in Matt’s pre-YTWU videos.
Tbh this strikes me as not premeditated but impulsive. Matt probably thought he'd ride in like a hero, saving the kids and getting clout. But he wasn't prepared for any fallback and took even good faith critisism personally
When I was a kid there was a couple month span of time when our one and only TV was on the way out, the tint was all messed up and I remember watching a lot of Green Simpsons. Your videos often remind me of that.
That was my impression as well. and he only seemed to go "off script" when replying to people. Not an exact script per say, but rather a loose set of notes for him to go off of. It's really suspicious.
wow what a cool thumbnail, i do wonder the creative process behind such a simplistic yet meaningful piece of art that not only is my first gateway into the content of the video it also makes me want to know more about the youtuber and possibly check out other videos
Perfect analogy. I found out about the controversy through this documentary. I love watching Youtube and I’m not sure how I missed this going on. But I agree. I feel like he was looking for a good reason to nuke said bank.
except the nuke failed to explode, other than a couple of heart attacks in the ensuing chaos and some destroyed furniture and a couple of broken bones from the stampeding crowd, nothing much was really damaged or lost other than the reputation of the security of said bank
I like that you included a viewer in the chat asking Matt to post the Reddit link before showing the clip of him saying "here's the post, upvote it." Doesn't make much of a difference over the greater narrative, but it was honest :)
I dont think that a company having one guy on payroll who once had a youtube-channel go and cause a drama on youtube is hard to believe, there would only be a few people who need to sign NDAs to keep such a operation secret
The holes in the last theory can be filled quite easily: Matt Watson was always an alias just because he didn't want to use his real name online to begin with; he was specifically selected by advertisers because they wanted someone small and untraceable, but also with an account that had existed previously so as to not arouse suspicion.
Idk, there a lot of small time untracable youtubers who have far less... questionable content, I.E the totally uncreative channel, any company can see that kind of liability a mile away. IDK, i guess its just the corporate plant theory seems a little too farfetched for me.
MrHatoi it would make sense especially because of his previous content pandering to certain tastes that also inhabit a large chunk of Reddit, meaning it would only help him get more upvotes and support and would make people think “this weirdo is a regular guy” which has worked pretty well so far, then just pay him a lot of money and boom, a man who never really existed disappears!
@That Guy ad agencies becuase they would still get the same butget but the "20% off pedo discount code" would give them a larger cut of the same budget.
also they dont give a flying fuck what the guys backround is becuase they probably used shell or umbrella companies . futhermore, the guy was disposable and thye knew it. thus theory leads alot of creadence.
I believe that if Matt was a corporate shill, he was chosen because he was a failed YouTuber who was desperate enough to take the companies up on their offer. They knew his older videos would get him in trouble eventually, so they saw him as a patsy who would take the fall for it.
@Than Os My guess is whoever the HR manager in [GENERIC BUZZFEED CLONE] found his mocking of other weird people funny and prolly gave other dreary middle managers at Sleeping Giants that this guy needs to be promoted hard.
I think not, I was on the subscribers os his Channel, he did a series in Nofap, Very emotional and personal about himself. All of this come to me as a surprise, his content Just made a complete shift and such a big impact in the youtube community from nowhere, IDK, YouTube recommend me the Channel soo.
sure, you can fill these theory holes with whatever you want, but what matters is whether the filling is backed up by real proof, so it's better to wait for more high quality theory fillers
Alessandro Lira but that questionable content doesn’t matter, as if the theory is correct then the company or group who hired him wouldn’t have any connection to him anyway. Him having this content only makes him more believable in the eye of the public. Even now people don’t think he is a hired instigator.
@Than Os i guess the real thing is that he was untraceable.
so if the theory is true, they contacted him because he was perfectly anonymous, made a deal, he did the video, then the media bandwagoned on it because they were part of it and the controversy starts.
there's two possibilities: -first he was acting and everything he did was fake, then vanish.
-second, the companies profited from his thirst for clout, and as long as he wasn't compromising this anonymity, he was free to say or do whatever he wanted for as long as he felt (or for a predetermined time), because whatever happened to him wouldn't matter anyway. so he streamed, got his fun, then Keem ruined his high so he stopped and disappeared, finishing the last part of the deal and taking his paycheck, mission accomplished.
The guy basically said "The Principal is abusing kids so shit down the entire school district! All you teachers complaining about job loss just don't care enough about child abuse!"
I love how he says to hit youtube in the wallet meanwhile for years youtube has been on google life support because they don't make enough money to keep the site up
Scene Selection: 0:00: Opening 1:52: Exhibit A: Who is Matt Watson? 2:54: Exhibit B: Matt's Wormhole of Deception 10:14: Exhibit C: The Strange Agenda 16:25: Exhibit D: The Red Tide 19:14: Exhibit E: Outspoken, yet silent... 24:16: Exhibit F: Corporations 4 Kidz? 26:05: Exhibit G: I miss the old Matt... 28:47: Exhibit H: We did it, Matt! We saved the city! 30:26: And now, a short intermission... 32:06: The Mainstream Narrative 33:19: Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue 36:58: The Bernie Pipeline 42:25: Matt Watson is an Industry Plant: Part 1 47:17: Matt Watson is an Industry Plant: Part 2 50:00: Conclusions. 54:36: Credits
i feel the explanation is a mixture of your 1st and 3rd proposals, in which Matt failed as a youtuber, wanted revenge, and thus teamed up with the corporations to give his "revenge" a boost.
My theory: Matt is just an angry narcissist who wanted to present themselves as a savior of the internet, didn't expect the video to take off, and thus didn't go through any of the trouble of justifying his initial rhetoric or contacting news agencies for interviews
theory: Matt, via a relative or mutual friend or something, had a connection to the corporations that temporarily pulled ads. He approached THEM with the idea to create an adpocalypse to hurt the commentary channels he despised, and they helped him in order to get better prices on ads.
Considering how almost everybody is removed roughly 6 people from everyone else on the planet: it should be possible to track down who this guy really is and potentially figure out the motive.
This issue has been on the site since before 2010. Disgusting people upload these videos of children in various states of dress while following a naming convention to help others find them. To this day, it is still a problem that hasn't been fixed and some of the videos that have been reported are over 5 years old. It's a real problem that hasn't been fixed.
This is why skepticism is a virtue not a hindrance. You need to look at things like this with an analytical eye to make sure you don’t cause more harm than good
my guess is that he likely at some point lost the motivation to make stuff, and then at some point after coming across these creepy videos regained it. He had a clear vision for how the video would go and what would result from it, and basically convinced himself that his way was the only way. And then once he realised he'd kinda messed up, he just left.
EmpLemon, I would like to translate your videos for free obviously using my voice in order for you to get more public, I could translate them to Spanish because I think you deserve way more views, the quality of your content is amazing and it would be awesome for people who doesn't speak English to be able of seeing your amazing content! Also I could make subtitles if you want!
40:00 I love hearing Boards of Canada pop up at random because their music is truly like the soundtrack to bizarre conspiracies. Anyway, I initially thought he must be some sort of corporate shill but so many theories seem plausible in some way.
Doom58 Even if that is the case, it would be frustrating and selfish to harm the creators who do actually put effort into their videos, like animators and such.
@hangsight. More likely he's one of those who is so desperate to try and deplatform people he dislikes that any collateral damage means is an acceptable outcome as long as [INSERT POPULAR FIGURE BREADTUBERS HATE] gets removed. Of course, I think he's a man working in the NYC media scene just because he has that vibe of a man who really does believe that Gamergate caused Donald Trump to be the president.
Or maybe he’s in the Illuminati? He did only one job and bail cause there was nothingness when the purpose’s done it’s deed. Another person would keep being an nuisance on the site and had video after video made on him to keep the attention going.
I’m only half joking but it’s something to keep in mind as well. WORMHOLES
*"They care more about their own food and shelter than trying to become vigilantes going after random underground creeps." It's basically some paladin syndrome shit.
The portion of this video which talked about "hitting them where it hurt - in their wallet" is scarily similar to the justification rioters use when they loot stores and destroy businesses. I asked a friend who supported rioters, "why do people riot?" and he said it was "because the government doesn't care about the people and they only care about money" which is the same logic Matt used against YouTube when he said "YouTube doesn't care about these issues, they only care about money." History tends to repeat itself in new and separate forms.
You know sometimes you just got to spend a couple hours watching dudes remove wasps from shittily repaired houses. And murmur to yourself. Being an adult is awesome.
It. Definitely seems like he had a vendetta on YouTube as a whole, but at the same knew how to pull some strings.
He’s definitely got a manipulative side to him. But also seems to have a very impulsive, and attention seeking side. He doesn’t seem to have much consistency in his motives either. I’m getting some slight adhd vibes or some sort of disorder vibes from him.
For being so able to get such a public outcry so fast, yet to be willing to stream himself reacting live to the situations unfolding. Clearly isn’t the smartest move. Especially since someone in his situation should be more concerned about interacting with the media.
Seems to me that by using his knowledge of the site, and from analyzing previous YouTube dark ages. He found an reasonable excuse to get the public outraged enough to cause mass hysteria, of which he was able to coax the public into doing his dirty work. Relying heavily on the public’s ignorance of the site. However why he wanted to make everyone suffer is still unknown. However it definitely sounds and looks like he wanted any attention he could get. Especially in the moment. However for him to disappear without barely any trace. Was more then likely a way to conceal himself from any possible backlash.
I always thought of this guy as the most extreme manifestation of the atmosphere of hostility against YT management among the YouTube community at the time, but taken to a ridiculously irrational and self-destructive level. Though I think it's clear now that there was something more going on.
i think one of the most important questions posed is why matt was more excited about brands pulling ads than youtube addressing the problem. why was matt's focus on brands and not youtube? super interesting shit that we will prob never know the answer to.
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Liar With A Gun2021-10-18 09:52:32 (edited 2021-10-18 10:14:17 )
Because his ideology made him hate YouTube, not empathize with victims. It was about hate for the 'offender', not love for the victim. So all he really cared about was hurting YouTube, not about the kids being saved. That's why he liked the Adpocolypse.
It’s so weird for me to go down this rabbit hole because I never indulge in conspiracy theories. But I believe that he was a corporate agent. The fact that no one can find any social media (even personal) confirms it for me. I think that in his personal life, “Matt” works for one of those corporations like Disney or Nestle and had done YouTube on the side. When the new year came around that’s when he was tasked with causing this fiasco and then to disappear without a trace. I also believe he wasn’t working alone considering the inconsistencies.
If I put myself in his shoes, my first thought is that he was trying to manipulate the stock market. For each advertiser who pulled ads he was super happy, this supports my theory because advertisers pulling support could trigger investors to sell, lowering the stock price. He could then simply short sell google or trade options or something to make money off the stock dropping.
Despite matts motives and all I think platforms are absollutely responsible for this stuff. Especially if they generate billions in revenue. I think yt could do a lot by just hiring people who actively search for this shit (idk). They shouldn't be allowed to take a penny in profits before ending this.
Great video. This one together with Leafy story are very entertaining and well produced. Nice combination of classical Music such as Tchaikovsky "Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy" and The Doors covers. Really adds more flavour to this mystery atmosphere.
This is really unrelated to the video but I just realized that most of the music EmpLemon uses in his videos is the stuff I used to listen to all the time during High School. Never thought I'd feel nostalgia from this.
@Equidistant Honeyjoy wetness is defined by containing, covering or soaked with water. water does not contain itself, it takes the shape of other things that contains it, therefore the thing that contains it would be wet and not water itself. water is not “soaked” with itself, and water does not cover itself.
to put it simply, water makes things wet but is not wet itself. Wetness is characterized by how much water is on it and since water is generally a liquid water cannot be wet. Is lava burnt?
@okay On what earth is water not covering itself? You have a potential philosophical argument if it's a single molecule of water, but a body of water is absolutely covered in water. Lava may be burnt, if it's on fire, but it isn't always.
@okay It's a semantic argument that completely falls apart when you include the entire definition of 'wet' instead of intentionally leaving out a part. An object is wet when it is saturated with water, and saturation is defined as 'holding as much as can be absorbed'; meaning not only is water wet, but it is the wettest that something can be.
Also, please no broken up replies. It's annoying to read, and I've replied three times so you can hopefully see how annoying it is.
@Equidistant Honeyjoy can’t cover something liquid in itself covering is more of a physical property. if you cover something with paper then that’s covering it but covering something with a liquid makes no sense even if it’s oil
Time Stamps! EXHIBIT A: Who is Matt Watson? 1:52 EXHIBIT B: Matt’s Wormhole of Deception 2:55 EXHIBIT C: The Strange Agenda 10:14 EXHIBIT D: The Red Tide 16:25 EXHIBIT E: Outspoken, yet silent... 19:14 EXHIBIT F: Corporations 4 Kidz? 24:17 EXHIBIT G: I miss the old Matt... 26:05 EXHIBIT H: We did it Matt! We saved the city! 28:48 Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue: 33:19 The Bernie Pipeline: 36:59 Matt Watson is an Industry Plant 42:25 Conclusions 49:59
This guy is the very pinnacle of virtue-signalling, hell, in a way he's also part of the problem because his thumbnail is LITERALLY a kid with revealing clothing. When you're click-baiting that hard, you have no room to call anyone else exploitative and greedy.
I mean he frequents chaptraphouse a subreddit full of tankies and commies. So the farthest Left you can go, its akin to The_Donald, but worse because its not quarantine and it spills over to other subreddits.
@GOINGGODMODE Except I was more pointing out that he's a hypocrite who hurt YouTubers in order to protect children which is kind of undone by his own thumbnail. Also, I could say the same thing about you, especially since you directly brought up likes when I didn't until now.
Hey Emp, Matt recently posted on his reddit again. He says he regrets some of the things he has done and was asked if he heard about you. He says he has not heard of you but HAS seen people accusing him of being a corporate puppet. Go check it out for further info.
Great video one small thing you had gotten wrong was that people under 16 can’t direct message but they can talk to people through comments but those are public. Love the video.
Great video one small thing you had gotten wrong was that people under 16 can’t direct message but they can talk to people through comments but those are public. Love the video.
Tangentially related but the section about how he got his video on reddit was particularly infuriating to me since I had a video that organically got 80k upvotes on r/videos, but it was removed by the mods because my channel had be blacklisted for supposedly posting my own content on the subreddit years prior.
And 2. Regarding YouTube Wake Up, I would argue Industry Plant is the most likely explanation because of the media coverage, and it’s possible that he was a disgruntled YouTuber who was paid more money by industry insiders than he thought he could have made through ad revenue making videos.
It's fair to say that Emp is the storyteller of youtube, picking up the pieces from the former battleground and rearranging the scene to explain how it all happened.
This isn’t a “YouTube” Phenomenon in terms of the seeming inability To contact any person associated with the platform, it’s evident in many new platforms, some Financial. If you’ve got an issue; you aren’t going to be able to talk to anyone and the only help you’ll get is a QA page…
Great video. I don't completely buy any of the theories presented; I think he was a misguided idiot who thought he was fighting child exploitation, and who was maybe hoping to capitalize on the outrage to reboot his channel. I think that the amount of circlejerking that occurred both online and in the media made him feel uncomfortable with the type and amount of attention he was getting and made him decide to just not bother, or not follow through. Having Youtube permit sexual comments under videos of kids was kind of fucked up, and outrage at YouTube would be understandable if your perspective lacked nuance. I think he was just largely ignorant of the collateral damage he was causing and when that was called to his attention he responded with hostility because that's a natural defense mechanism for a lot of people.
For example, I once had a guy put his car in R for race mode in front of me at a traffic light, and his first reaction was to get extremely angry at me, despite that he was obviously 100% to blame. Hostility is a defense mechanism for some because nobody wants to accept that they have made a mistake, and anger and blame shifting gives them a way to suppress having to accept their own fuck up.
Tbh when I was little my mum told me all about pedos & their habits (on the web). I was staying away from strangers, mining my own business on the platform (and anywhere else) in it's early days.
Imo it's not YouTube's responsability to regulate smth like this, it's the parents.
@Ryan Criddle It's basically adults watching kids do sports. to a normal person there's nothing there. to maladjusted ones it's sexualized. How should Youtube know the difference when a normal person wouldn't even think like that? And why should the censor people's expression when they probably generally weren't trying to make content like that?
Some of it was probably kids making content because they wanted to see themselves on YT.
It's gross but you can't stop people from being creepy. And most of the content isn't illegal in any fashion.
@s4juliette They have a social responsibility to try and limit the amount of damage possible. It is either Youtube does it or a regulatory body will try to step in like is done with just about every other medium of entertainment.
There's a looooooooooooong history of parents wanting to blame anything but themselves. KMFDM, Rammstein, and Marilyn Manson are responsible for school shootings. Video games cause violence. Rap causes homophobia and sexism. Et cetera.
Media is a reflection of society; and if a media source is a bad father figure it's far more likely that it's because the creator had no father figure than because the creator was influenced by the devil.
yup. true. but entitled, lazy parents that refuse to take responsibility of their offspring will never accept it. everyone has to censor everything and themselves just because they decided to pro-create and can't be bothered to curate what their children consume themselves.
I think youtube should be held accountable like a newspaper of what allows to publish or not. Sure videos would lad some minutes (especially in new, unkown channels) but who cares? The hands off approach and hand washing youtube does is too much in my opinion and they will always do it because they can.
The "hired agent" theory is entirely pointless considering you already established his motive and history as an angry leftist who regularly attacked reddit advertisers before. There really seems to be no ambiguity about this
I find it weird that people didn’t question this when it was going on. I wasn’t really participating in this but quite honestly the mannerisms of Matt made it pretty obvious he was lying. Like in the stream, he said “just admit it, you’re salty”? I’ve only ever heard that from 9 year olds on Xbox who are losing an argument
So, weird thing. In the YouTube community page on his channel he made a level headed response just a month after this video. His response was level headed and he apologized.
I feel like that Matt was a real content creator at some point, but got hired by corporations to do what he did since he knew more about YouTube than the 90-year-olds at said corporations.
I really wish someone could send this video to Matt. Nothing feels better then seeing some jerk's "argument" fall apart before their very eyes. Edit: I know it wouldn't mean much now that he's basically gone, but still.
No one wants to be the guy to go against "saving the children" which is why demagogues and authoritarians use it as a tool to dismantle anything they don't like. Privacy being the latest target in Australia.
With the theory about him being a plant, at least one of the questions is answerable in my opinion. They chose someone with a history, the specific history he had, so that if anyone caught on that something wasn't right, then they would think they had it figured out when they looked at his past on YouTube. Just look at the way that most other YouTubers just dropped the search for his motivations after coming to the conclusion that he failed on the platform. as for the lack of frequent Matt Watson clones it could be that companies don't want to overuse the tool they have discovered for fear of others realizing what is going on. If they only use it when the chips are down, it will take a while longer for a traceable pattern to form. You can't hang yourself if you don't give yourself enough rope to do so, so limiting rope dispersal makes sense
While I know this might get dated rather fast I find it funny that in the last few weeks there's been talk of banning Tik Tok in the US. That is hilarious in my mind. This train of thought Was connected to some of the apps and the weird stuff with kids. While YouTube may have issues he makes an excellent case for everyone else who is probably worse.
maybe we need to combine the failed youtuber theory, and the industry plant theory. this would explain not wanting to co-operate with other youtubers, and preasuring out advertisers. that also explains his older content
George Liquor2021-12-29 00:14:47 (edited 2021-12-29 00:46:28 )
Seriously, Max's video has good points and makes sense, but he went at it the wrong way. Not to mention his cringe Joker Jigsaw like tone on the video, on a serious issue too.
@Cian because it's just companies riding social bandwagons that they see as more profitable. They have every right to complain about that, especially when it infringes on the quality of the product
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Halen2020 Real leftist don’t sellout to Mega Corporations who says “trans rights”, the left movement was always about humanizing capitalism and serving the working class man, not about selling themselves for Google and the privileged Medium Class kids.
12:52 They broke even in 2015 when they properly enabled mobile ads. I think the entire reason they stopped sharing the profit reports is to perpetrate the myth that YouTube isn't profitable when they actually are. There's plenty of people blindly defending YouTube and even some who aren't perpetrating that myth to this day as though it were somehow a valid excuse for a lot of the sh*t that goes on. You're actually one of the few who's rightfully saying no one knows but I still have my suspicions. As for not having to directly answer to the shareholders, the actions of last and current CEOs have been generally hostile towards users (Creator Insider has also been generally hostile to anyone who dares question them (Todd claimed I was acting in bad faith when YouTube are the ones acting in bad faith and I am responding in kind), just short of blocking people like me who do so). While what you said is true, I don't really consider it a valid point because of this.
I have no attachment to Matt Watson and he creeps me out, but he had an actual point even though he did probably cause the ad-pocalypse. YouTube unintentionally facilitated it by not paying attention to the human condition when designing an algorithm to provide content in this way. When designing an algorithm with a billion dollar company remember to hire child, adult, and behavioral psychologists to explore how a service might be abused by bad actors.
I apologize but your inability to acknowledge this is why I have to unsubscribe because this is about children and I fully doubt your sincerity in this video. This is one situation where no matter what the cost was to youtube and its content creators and no matter whether or not he had other motives he did identify an actual issue.
If someone starts out a statement by accusing someone of pedophilia or saying it’s “for the children” I am now immediately skeptical of whatever shit comes out of their mouth next
I get triggered every time someone says "it's raining cats and dogs" because that would be animal cruelty. Words and statements can also have figurative meanings.
I forgot I already watched this, but the thumbnail was so appealing, and the video so engaging, that I watched it again. I think he was a disgruntled YouTuber, who then sold himself out to an advertiser, to burn the site.
Workforce exploitation via long hours and multiple jobs for the numerous low wage parents of our 'first world' country feel like an easy way to explain much of the time sinks incapacitating them from doing that very task well. Bit hard to read to your children on a double shift, but a tablet will tide them over for hours, so bandaid it is.
@Oda Swifteye this, it doesnt just happen in the first world, it also happens a lot in 3rd world, most of the child twerking videos in youtube right now are either from brazil or somewhere in latin america, sadly kids do it not just because the lack of attention from their parents but also because society has made all of this behaviors popular.
Well it can be pretty difficult to keep children from accessing the internet, especially considering how important it has become. I think internet with moderation is the best choice for parents.
Oh get a life if 3rd world countries had as much access to tech as first world countries do they would face a similar problem. It's not about the quality of parenting but instead the special type of problem being faced, it's so new that we're still trying to find the best way to deal with it..... boomer
+Absoloot Disastr Yep. I recall a certain number of families in Europe while I was backpacking, who, when the child was pitching a fit, would just hand them their phone or a tablet, and the child would absentmindedly take the device and shut up. It almost reminded me of a pacifier, but in this case, its purely a distraction, and not something meant to calm / soothe the child. The parents do not know how to raise a child. Such behavior will only stymie the child's development.
@Morgan Wragg even then, is it really that difficult to teach a kid to take care of themselves? Over the age of like 5, its possible to teach a kid to have a sense of preservation, to not immediately try to kill themseleves/eat poison etc. We just need to figure out how to do that... digitally.
It is possible to teach kids, even incredibly young ones, to make the right choices independently. Not many kids actually want to be traumatised or abused.
That’s why I believe we need the government to decide who is worthy of breeding. Can’t trust the weak, only those who are worthy of legally holding can do so.
@Twister Unfortunately, most people think that childhood is a separate reality from adulthood. Even before Internet and TV, kids learn about money, sex, fashion, and discrimination. The real problem in the West is the smothering romanticism of childhood. Kids are not allowed to disagree, criticize, be cynical, walk to school by themselves, etc. Hell, people in their 20s are now being treated like oversized infants bc "muh brain development". Adults need to stop viewing kids like dogs. If a child fails or gets a boo-boo, dont lock them away from the outside world! It's no wonder why Anglo countries have the highest rates of social-personal disorders.
@Acsion42 Regardless of parental controls, people need to understand that innocence is relative. Kids arent inherently innocent. And innocence is not the same as purity. We need to include kids in real-life matters instead of shielding them. Otherwise we end up with stunted "adults" like we have now.
@Kenetic Kups Yes. But at the same time, kids are NOT fundamentally innocent. Even before tv, kids knew about sex and money and racial class. Also, there's this detrimental effect that adults do to kids that really fucks them up. We call it "inspiring them to change to change the world."
Awesome vid. I will say that YouTube makes so much money they probably don’t care about advertisers pushing them around. It’s a drop in the ocean. If YouTube actually played tough against all the ad people at once theyd get sued for anti trust violations (not saying they’d lose but still)
I like the fact that he keeps insisting on the solution of going to the advertisers, it's like telling someone who has a tumor to kill themselves because that's the only way to remove it.
Matt Watson is a weird individual, he acts like he's dumb, even though he knows the in's and out's of the platform. He acts like he's saving kids, even though he supports companies with child labour. He feels like he's fueled by ego, but he decides to disappear completely. He might be working with brands, but he has made questionable content. Nothing about him adds up.
High af on shrooms and I’ve been binge watching your channel. Then Peggy came on and I was like holy shit wtf going on and then the entire video just fucked my head. Cool video? I don’t really know what’s goin on tbh just loving the ride and the videos
I didn't even know about his video starting the controversy, so Emp basically gave me 3 times the info that any other news source has. Big ups and blessings to you.
Just rewatching this after a couple years and I'm surprised I didn't notice this earlier since Matt sounds so bad. 23:17 Isn't the blue yeti a front address microphone? He's talking into the complete wrong part
To be honest i think he didn’t care. This whole situation reminded me of a small child saying “if i cant have fun. No one can.” He was butthurt he wasn’t succeeding with his channel so decided out of jealousy that nobody should be able to
The frustrating part of being on the roof of a skyscraper looking down on the masses is that I can see the totally predictable patterns forming below me, and yet I am powerless to guide them. In fact, they don’t even know I am here... and they never will.
Matt Watson was an industry plant paid by an unknown company to give a reason for advertisers to pull out of YouTube so they can negotiate lower rates for these advertisers to spend. That was his one goal and he succeeded. He didn't want to consider any other options that made better sense, he was just paid to do one thing and he did it. But what doesn't get talked about nearly as much during this shitstorm was how the hive-mind of Reddit was so quick to promote Matt's video.
People are sheep and child abuse is usually a topic most don't want to argue about or ponder. And if you said what Emp is saying now, you'd probably be accused of being a pedophile justifying things.
@Yotrymp 'Think of the children!' works everytime, trust me. It's hard to be against it as children are in danger, but there will be times when someone would use it for gain.
the worst part about all of this is that he doesn't use his mic properly, you speak into the side of the yeti not the top. it's clearly stated in the manual and on the box
I feel the reason why he of all people was picked by big corpo was his background . Most people that would try to look into him at the time of controversy, would see and think its only a failed youtuber trying to burn both website and his more successful peers. It would be a perfect facade for the deeper story behind the scenes and explain why watson tried so poorly to cover his past. Would you burn down your place of work after being fired? Unless you're insane no. But would do it for monetary incentive and guaranted safety afterwards? think more people would be inclined to agree. Still there's a high possibility that there where many more people like matt that declined offer and what happend to them? got paid to shut up? got taken down cia style? and leave the question of other people behind the scenes? truth is we might never see the full story
Yeah his videos on Totally Uncreative were definitely meant to be satire, that's clear enough by him jamming a remote up his rear and saying he's "taking his daily dose of red pill". WILDLY terrible satire though, and even the best comedy isn't really a good enough excuse for harassing people on the street like a weirdo.
It's amazing how quickly he came and went. Really makes u thonk.
Nice video! Can't believe I sat through all of it. I can tell you a little something about Matt if you are interested. In fact, I was following his channel and his first few videos when he opened it back in 2016. Ehh.. but I'm too lazy and tired I'm afraid. No one will care to read anyway so I'ma just make coffee and play video games
What if Matt's actions were some sort of test to find out - how much influence can be gained from a single youtube video under the right circumstances - how long obvious contradictions don't have any impact on someone's credibility - how easy it is to manipulate a previously neutral audience - if someone's strategy for creating a viral video works - if someone's strategy for creating a viral movement works (and for how long) etc.
@Doodguy The blank It is, and it's creepy. We shape the internet and in return, the internet shapes us. All it takes is one image/video/article in the right time and right place.
His argument of "I won't reveal my identity because I could be implicated by reporting to the FBI or Police" makes no sense, because if that was the case, it would dissaude people from reporting these incidents and thus would make investigations much more difficult.
Never remember hearing about this boogaloo. It really sounds like a guy trying to destroy other people’s small income because he couldn’t get some of it himself.
i love this guy is like "billionare companies are evil and greedy, so i will tell other billionare companies to solve our problems, they will know what to do" which they didnt, they just remove the adds and act like nothing happened.
@Shay Ó Laoghaire no, that is how libertarians and capitalists operate, "woke" people always call the goverment to do stuff for them, not companies (generaly speaking of course)
That's because the whole "woke" thing comes entirely from the top down. The modern SJW culture was essentially invented (or at least popularised) during Occupy which ended up destroying it. When numerous corporations and media outest started pushing the idelogy conveniantly all at once. Also we know that it comes from the education system now. Plus now almost every major corporation pushes this. You have to be an idiot to think this is somehow grassroots or is a threat to 1%ers
Tfw when a weirdly defensive and emotional ginger is actually a peephole through which we can see the secret maneuvers done by the coalition of companies that's actually pulling the strings behind society and technology.
The point was to start the conversation and prime the community for the coming purge of content which would be deemed "offensive". AKA, anything that goes against the mainstream narrative. The purpose of the guy's channel was so that other people would eventually say "well maybe there is some content like that, but it's already being addressed. What about all THIS content that is soooo offensive? We need to demonetize this!" And so now anyone to the right of Mao has not only been demonetized but entirely banned, and legacy media outlets are prioritized in search results over independent commentators. It's about maintaining control of the narrative. Too many independent voices were undermining the establishment monopoly on shaping public views. And to think that Youtube wasn't involved in the discussion/planning is so idiotic that it's more likely that anyone suggesting this is doing so as a deliberate effort to misdirect rather than due to ignorance.
People make fun of MatPat for that? That's stupid. MatPat gave him a copy of Undertale because he thought it was a perfect representation of the gaming community.
Which is, honestly a statement that hasn't aged quite like wine.
Matt patt turns out to be some comic book super villain who can disguise himself as anyone but he uses his powers to get against people who made fun of him.
@Wisemankugel Memicus he also thinks it's his responsibility to be the spokesperson for the gaming community. I love the guy, and I feel like he has good intentions, but he needs to learn to back off once in a while.
True. I remember that time a while after Etika’s death where he used it as a mismarketed image of something else, I can’t remember exactly what it was.
I'm not a Matpat fanboy or anything but, why did people make fun of him for giving the Pope a copy of Undertale? Is it because it was around the time he did that theory about Sans being Ness?
@Moobattle He's not incorrect tho. Again, he does do seminars and talks to very important people. Like the Pope and Susan Wojcicki. He has enough pull to get Dan Harmon on his channel. Of course, Susan didn't listen.
And actually, Susan as CEO of YouTube does not have to listen. EmpLemon's newest video brings up the fact that basically as long as Alphabet/Google is still around, YouTube will have no monetary struggles.
You know, a lot of campaigns to "help starving children in Africa" never actually directly help the children in any way, so this statement makes sense. I'm not saying it's a fact, but it's sure got a lot of truth to it.
@rowan e You missed the point. He's not saying that there aren't pedo Republicans. He's saying that "think of the children!" is one of the most commonly used Democrat excuses when they want something banned.
@Anthuny You miss my point (plus I'm not talking only about pedophilia here). Republicans said to "think of the children" when they wanted to censor anti-Christian or "harmful" media. "Think of the children" when they wanted to pass the corporate coronavirus bailout bill. I can go on. It's an extremely common moral high ground tactic used by both parties, so going "So Democrats" is pretty fuckin stupid.
It's hard to find a point in a sarcastic response that consists of a 3 word and 2 word sentence whose only purpose was mockery of the person it was a response to. You can argue that "D might do X, but R also does X" all day, but the truth is "R and D both do X, but D does X so often that X is attributed to being a trait of D". Your tu quoque isn't going to change that.
I suspect he didn't find this stuff by accident. He sounds like he projecting to me... he's got a certain type of outrage that you see in people trying to convince others that they don't like something. For example, when a habitual liar says they hate liars to try to make people think they don't lie. That's what this sounds like to me. Now when he gets raided he'll say he was "doing research".
Youtubers really are shooting themselves in the foot by monetizing their channels, the day is coming that you will be forced to watch 5-6 unskippable 30-60 second ads in a row, just like the tv, and youtubers will have nobody but themselves to blame for losing their viewer bases when people go somewhere else for videos, I appreciate that Emp keeps his ads to a minimum, but I wouldn't even watch this channel if I had to wait for that many ads, entertaining and insightful as it is
It amazes me that there are STILL people TO THIS DAY who don't understand how the youtube algorithm and recommended videos work. It's really not a hard concept to comprehend. It should be pretty much common sense.
What about monetarily rewarding people who accurately report pedo content? Its not like youtube will ever be able to build a team big enough to tackle every single one of these videos, but they do have access to a large enough audience that will. Any of the money they would spend on this hypothetical and ineffective team can be shifted to this program.
There is one part that really is damning that should have been elaborated on, instead of all the meandering for useless points like "Matt's name isn't spectacular." When the comments from Matt's reddit account are shown, it's on a subreddit called /ChapoTrapHouse, a subreddit for pinko losers. For years, CTH got away with breaking Reddit's ToS, even going so far as to call for politicians to be 'baseballed' (search what happened on June 14, 2017 if you want to crack the code) for years. Their userbase had a lot of overlap with other power-groups on Reddit, such as AgainstHateSubreddits and SRS, which also act as the admin's pet subs.
Just as well, Reddit's scoring system directly translates popularity into exposure; in order to game Reddit, it's possible to buy/farm just enough upvotes in order to get a post trending, then let the community launch it the rest of the way to the top of the site.
I point this out because a user from that subreddit would likely know how to game the site, so it's not entirely unfeasible that he would be able to launch a post on Reddit inorganically, while not being able to do the same for a Youtube channel.
I really have grown to despise Reddit over time. It seems to actively promote harmful/explotive behaviour in its users at this point and what amount of good there is in it isn't worth digging through the cesspool of lazyness and hostility the rest of the site is.
@Alien Observer Reddit's been fucking up way longer than the political canyon we've gotten ourselves into. Remember when they thought they found the Boston bomber and got an innocent security guard killed?
I mean the ads are told to pay for a content filter, they instead wait for a controversy, this inevitably results in lower rates for the brands which makes up the shortfall caused by this new expense.
The part about the controversies always happening at the beginning of the year before the Upfront meeting in March is eye opening. But if Matt was a corporate plant, and Matt Watson is not his real name, then surely someone at least recognizes the guy by his face?
The whole thing just doesn't make sense. And what you brought up about other platforms being far more dangerous than YouTube is also true. Are those companies not the target of these controversies because they refuse to be bullied by advertisers like Susan is? Where are the campaigns to tear down all playgrounds because they provide a place for predators? There's definitely something going on behind the scenes...
Ultimately I think the butthurt leftie theory is true. It had the least convincing "holes" against it especially considering Carlos Maza did practically the same thing for similar motives. "He didn't mention class" is a very weak excuse because not all progressives talk about it nor is "b-but it hurt leftie youtubers" because again people like him and Carlos don't care about that
I think there are hit pieces against other social media sites before. They just don't have much traction as Youtube's. The one I can think of are The Tik Tok predator, war against privacy on Facebook and Twitter, no 18 and up art on Tumblr, viral fake news on any social media site, Cambridge Analytica scandal, Gab's war against porn, Covington Kids for Twitter, etc.
@CyberNinjaZero If he was just a butthurt lefty, why would he not just raise awareness about the thing that he wanted to? It's not like that didn't JUST cause a massive adpocolypse at the time of his expose.
He's probably someone who found /b/ and decided to pull off an EPIC TROLL and, despite his ludicrous incompetence in doing so, it worked. He's even using the classic "Will somebody PLEASE think of the children!" message.
@GOINGGODMODE He dared to reference a product? What is he an NPC?
That's it. I assume he drinks protein shakes therefore is similar to people who are muscular and make me insecure. He's clearly a consoomer guys, but I love capitalism.
"There was a glitch in the um algorithm" "That was a pop-up ad"
Also, maybe he really didn't intend on helping companies, just unleashing his hate on Youtube in the worst way he can, because he failed at being a Youtuber, which would explain his older, personal videos. The companies just took it as a blessing. But why is 'Matt Watson' so anonymous? idk, really. Oooooh scary~
It wouldn't require many people to stay quiet, just a few parts would required to pull something like what Matt did. A PR agent, somebody to pay him, and a hot and volatile subject for him to work with. The PR agent would tip the news, Matt would get the views, and whoever hired would benefit. The paper trail would be nonexistent if he was paid in either cash or out of an individuals pocket, if it was an out of pocket, it would be impossible to narrow down the individual responsible for paying him when looking at a massive corporation, and if it was cash all we would see is a withdrawal of funds, not the purpose for the withdrawal. All the PR agent would have to say is "look at this, this is some big news" and the media would be all over it, all they would need is a tip, no insider required in the media, but a trusted source is, this also may be why more Matts don't show, they need to be both credible and trusted by news outlets, and trust is hard to receive when your a massive corporation, Journalists are known for being nosy and looking into things, so imagine some PR rep just emails you something and your a journalist, this PR rep works for a large corporation, you wouldn't jump on it, you say "why would they tell me this, why do they care?", this may allow us to rule out which companies were responsible, Disney and Nestle wouldn't be trusted on such a subject, so it wouldn't be them. Matt deleted all his video, but being a youtuber gave him unique experience that isn't easily found in somebody who doesn't have a channel, and even harder to find one with a successful channel, now the company is looking around for someone who can pull off their scheme, enter Matt, no paper trail, unknown to the masses, had a successful channel and is willing to do what you want for a price, looking at his home and living conditions in the videos, it wouldn't even take offering ten grand to convince to go ahead and do it, especially if he thinks social media is toxic and unsafe. The ulterior motive would be to show and highlight the toxic nature of social media and get paid while doing it, he isn't some rogue, just some dude who really dislike social media for unknown reasons, this also may play into why he deleted all of his videos, maybe for a cleanse, looking at his channel the content is juvenile, edgy, and impulsive, but successful, could he not have wanted that kind of content? Did he grow bored of it? While the reason be unknown, the cleanse theory is the best explanation, it would also explain his disposition towards you tubers and his unwillingness to talk to media outlets, maybe he just dislikes media in general, considering the news to be on the same level YouTube, it's either that or exposure was too risky and unnecessary, the topic was already well known and being addressed, why take any risks doing interviews when you already have what you need? Everyone could already agree that the problem was very much real and needed to be addressed before he even started, he just needed to throw fuel onto the flame. News outlets tend to ignore social media platforms, most of the time they simply discuss what somebody discovered about the platform, not really ever doing the research themselves, meaning it would require a tip from a trusted source to provoke them into looking into it, and all the tip would have to do is point at Matt, note how hardly any other channels highlighted or even mentioned in those articles, and if they did, hardly elaborated on them, that acts evidence to suggest what I say is true. Was it all planned? Of course not, it was never planned, why would they have somebody like Matt in their back pocket? At best they kept tabs on him, but I think they just happened to stumble across him and after hearing some bad news found out hat they had a unique opportunity on their hands. Were other corporations consulted? Possibly, and it is strong one at that, but I think only one actually carried out the plot and those who were consulted were limited in number and were in agreement to keep their mouths shut, that is if they were, but there is no evidence suggest this is true. Now Matt has no paper trail to follow, he isn't active on social media as far as we know, but at the same time he has incredible experience and knowledge about the various platforms, he would make for a perfect industry agent, especially since no one actually knew who he was, and all of those things would be a requirement, if youtube found out who was responsible, they could sue, hold it against them and punish them, or make life a lot harder, I mean CNN managed to dig up enough dirt to blackmail some guy with nothing but a comment to start with, the task wouldn't be easy, but not impossible. This is why more Matt's don't show up, a person like Matt is incredibly uncommon, 80% of the population is active on social media, even more are aware and have an known presence, and those who don't don't have the knowledge or know how to do what Matt did, to settle for less is incredibly risky, but Matt was competent enough to handle the situation on his own, and succeed, and with no real online presence, no dirt could be dug up because there was no dirt to dig into, therefore, the news outlets would think that it was legit and support it, and when the news supported it the bandwagon effect comes into play creating the perfect storm. Isn't that a bit complicated? No not really, like I said it was probably not planned but rather there was nothing to lose but everything to gain, if Matt failed the consequence would be inconvenience, nothing too devastating or threatening, just not ideal. So I think that some corporation stumbled onto Matt, the two had a chat, came up with an idea, and decided to just say "Psh, why not?" and went ahead and did something, this is probably why Matt is proud of accomplishing what he did, it truly was an incredible feat that he could take pride in, being able to manipulate the masses, not just the news or countless unknown names in the comments, but the other you tubers as well, he used them and manipulated them all to succeed, and once he succeeded, I bet he was paid handsomely to do something that he was already willing to do or something he wouldn't think much about, and all of it on short notice. This is just a theory I have on it, and I don't think there are too many holes in it, either way, I enjoyed making it.
@Penelope McQueen "B-Buhhh-But muh that would make me guilty! I will try to destroy things for the sake of children!! Not like it would fail..... again.... for the like, 10000th time..."
Thats because youtubers and the idiots who take youtube seriously.... kinda hate youtube for some reason so they use every oportunity they get to shit on them without realizing that this will also hurt them in the process. Honestly is kinda funny
Fred Mayfield2021-12-20 06:33:17 (edited 2021-12-20 06:33:31 )
Okay, I know this part of the video was only an example to prove your point, but I have to ask, Why would someone have any reason to celebrate grotesque scenes of monkey abuse?
yknow, him having videos may be EXACTLY why they picked him if him being an industry plant is correct. No one would suspect a seemingly normal youtuber to be a industry plant.
The only problem with this is that it would be very risky for the corporations. If the host doesn’t exist in a vacuum, there is a decent chance they would just refuse and possibly even tell someone about the scheme.
@Dlaumor Kaizen a shill basically, a seemingly normal person like you or I, but they really work for large companies in secret, manipulating things for those companies. Nestle and Disney are both well known to use scummy tactics like that.
You could do a shorter one on "Congratulation!" Its a scene from the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion where several primary characters congratulate the primary character. They all only say "Congratulation!" The comment section followed suit, and the WHOLE THING is just people saying congratulations. Some people editted some thing, some people used the Japanese translation, but its all the same. Well of course, except for one :3
Did I mention that there are NO REPLIES TO ANY COMMENTS
He reminds me of syndrome from the incredibles. He wanted to be a YouTuber but then when he failed he wanted all other youtubers to suffer. It’s honestly incredibly fucked up and selfish
Ill admit I was concerned when you started the bernie pipeline narrative but you remain the most critical unbiased commenter on YouTube company culture, based emplemon
From what I've heard, I think that's moreso an issue with Coppa. YouTube restricts features on "children's content" because they want creators to lie and say that their content isn't made for children even if it is. That way they can still make ad revenue off of it. Basically: Coppa said "You guys can't make advertising revenue off of content labeled for kids because we don't want you collecting ad data on children.". So YouTube is like "Okaaay we'll just try to force our content creators to lie then, so that way if a lawsuit happens, the individual creators who lied will be held responsible and we won't, and we can still make money." Basically the only way you're able to profit off of kids content now is to put yourself at risk of a Coppa violation.
@ToadySP Wow thats a good theory, I never thought about this like that. The fact that youtube doesn't seem to do anything with the content that would fall under the mixed audience exclusion seems to support this. Make the system so insufferable that it will be easier for people to lie (or actually claim the mixed audience exclusion but youtube doesn't want to admit it exists)
See my playlist: coppa-cabanana? Some of video are marked as for kids, in past or till this day. Ironically some are age restricted!!!
How to do it? • Hit like button, and it'll be on liked video list. • Try to add into other playlist • There we go!
Sometimes on phone, it got recommended and it doesn't autoplay thumbnails. Click on video, see if it's age restricted, if not close the video and try to add to playlist
(Barry Manilow's song added for emphasis on the name)
I sometimes go on a nostalgia trip by finding some old cartoon openings and I usually put nostalgic videos in a playlist, with this block I can barely listen to nostalgic cartoon music.
I know it's literally so frickin stupid, I try to watch and hear me out Kidz Bop for a playlist I have with over a thousand and five hundred videos and I can't even scroll down or add more to it at least the ones that are already added can stay its just really sad and I can't wait till the day this site crashes and dies.... I just hope all the videos will be archived.
Miniplayer is disabled because YouTube uses the data from the miniplayer to provide predictive search suggestions and recommendations. This kind of thing is what YouTube is prohibited from doing in order to be COPPA compliant.
Some of the Beatles' songs from Yellow Submarine and Magical Mystery Tour are children's content so I can't just listen to them or even add them to my playlist. It's so dumb.
It’s because of the whole COPPA thing. YouTube disabled most features for children’s content, including comments, playlists, and the miniplayer on kids videos to try and avoid further fines from the FTC.
my guess is it's down to information collection, the reason the COPA thing happened was youtube was collecting information about kids which is illegal in the US. videos that are targeted at kids are videos that are set to be kids content, the act of sending a notification must require the user to share some info, same thing with the miniplayer
Well it's most likely because YouTube is trying to discourage kids content from being made. They stole data and served children Ads. Instead of stopping these behaviors COPPA and YT just decided to stop these videos so less children will not be able to enjoy the platform.
It's so adults can see what their kids are watching at all times. That screen is so small it'd be impossible to tell whether it's Elsa and Spiderman, or family finger friends.
Yes that has happened too fuckin much I was watching a captain fordo clone wars clip he is a badass and it has been happening to things not even ment for kids
Here's my theory: when going into childrens content you only get childrens Content suggested, but miniplay can show content that isn't children's content.
Its for children because its bad to overstimulate children. Look at kids tv shows. The ones aimed at younger kids are slower like sesame street. Less action and motion on screen. Spongebob for older children is more fast paced in terms of dialogue and action on screen. The miniplayer stops so kids arentnoverstimulated because younger brains arent good at handling so many things.
According to youtube some "Children's content" applied to robot chicken and Bojack Horseman, because there are kids voices. Can't wait for the ending of Human Centipede 2 be considered "Children's content" cause of the baby.
Now I can't comment and discuss my favorite clips from animated movies. Thanks COPPA and Matt for taking away the ability to talk and share with others about our nostalgia for our childhood cartoons.
same. i don't think it makes much sense. the only reason i can think of is that full screen is easier for parents to see what the kids are watching, while they could be watching something inappropriate in the mini player to avoid getting caught??? but any parent actually watching what their kid is watching would notice the kid isn't just attentively staring at the unmoving video list or something that isn't entertaining, they'd know.
That guy literally made it so I went from being able to make like 1-4$ a month from all my different channels to nothing because each channel didn't meet the requirements for subs but I had plenty of watch time and then the change in the gun rules on youtube finished off my gaming channel since you can't show reloading guns in a video BUT VIDEO GAMES HAVE RELOADING ANIMATIONS. so that fucked me. One day I'll get back to making videos. Just not sure if I want to make content on youtube at this point.
I've been working on my YouTube channel for 3 years and haven't made a dime off my channel cuz I stand at 307 subscribers and I'm against this guy who calls YouTubers greedy for calling him out on it.
The corporate shill makes sense, they wouldn’t pick a new account with no videos uploaded- the past videos of his were a perfect mask to sway suspicion. He declining interviews with all the news outlets further shows that his acting skills are up to par with the one note he kept reiterating, but not up to debating a true open questioning by reporters. Final verdict: he was a failure on YouTube, so took a chunk of cash to propagate a corporation’s desire to renegotiate ad rates.
49:10 If this conspiracy was to be true, then they would probably need someone somewhat familiar with the platform to begin with but low level enough that he could swoop in. That would at least explain the older vids.
Yes, it is YouTubes fault that videos of children that aren't supposed to be up aren't immediately taken down. They can take down copyrighted videos, videos that upset them, etc but not videos that go directly against their terms of service? Come on, stop defending a corporation that'd throw you to the sharks.
let's be honest, even when we demand that kids under 13 years old must not watch our videos, they're gonna do it anyway. I'm pretty certain a chunk of the people in this comment section are 13 and under.
I'm 25 but back in 2006 and 2007 I would watch stuff I wasn't supposed to And yeah best thing we can really do is have a "are you older than 13 years old to watch this video" button Because no matter what kids are always gonna get past it
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
Something I noticed that, maybe it's a little minor, but he did that thing that controversial youtubers do where they put the camera close enough it seems like he's mad at YOU specifically unless you're with him. He keeps shouting into the camera, pushing his face in closer like he's accusing the viewer. Really helps cement the us vs them mentality. if you're not with me, you're against me, and if you're against me, you're with them, and that means you're with pedophiles in this case.
YouTube's politics in general is just interesting. It's like a struggling country (economically, political stability-wise etc.) in a way. No one in the leadership can agree on anything, conspiracies arise, and there's a lot of drama inbetween YouTube's leadership, the elite YouTubers and the commentary channels.
@hello I'll Eh, it’s alright now. He has an inflation furry fetish and acknowledged he should have been more careful when he was younger. He’s a weirdo, but he’s not a nonce.
As a left leaning person, and if Matt's true motives were to target right leaning folk... God damn, his tactics had the same effect as a drone strike... He hit his target, but also everyone else, leaving peeps confused about what he really wanted. There's ways of combating regressive, dangerous and/or bigoted aspects of YouTube... Matt's way is one of the worst
Yeah. The idea that there is a right leaning 'pipeline' that gets ever more extreme is true, but it is also true for the 'left' as well as anything and everything else.
YouTube gives you more of whatever you like. If you like right/left political content it will give you more of that. And the more extreme you like your politics the more extreme your video will get.
This is aside from the point of the video, but great choice of music at 6:17 the lyrics in the second half of Alabama Song really fit with the context here, genius!
What I learned on EmpLemon today is: 1. Never trust a ginger 2. There's apparently a badass orchestrial cover of Whiskey Bar that I am now going to be playing on repeat
Google/Youtube is on the same page as all these other large companies; they don't need to fuck over an ally over a few bucks when they both have much bigger fish to fry and have the same agenda anyway.
After watching both videos from Emp on the matter, I feel like this is the most plausible explanation. He just wanted to play hero and get rewarded for it.
I would argue Industry Plant is the most likely explanation because of the media coverage, and it’s possible that he was a disgruntled YouTuber who was paid more money by industry insiders than he thought he could have made through ad revenue making videos.
@UnhealthyPills It’s not a dislike, dislikes don’t change how your comment is displayed and whether it’s shown to people or hidden. It’s a downvote which doesn’t let anyone else have an opinion that’s different. It’s abused and basically hides anyone that has a different opinion.
I don’t know why people don’t just make their kids use YouTube kids instead of allowing them onto the official YouTube app(which is made for people 13 and up) and then get mad when they watch something not age appropriate.
Sorry to jack this comment, but if you reading this are in the US, please look into EARN IT, a bill that Congress is trying to pass that give the government more power to monitor citizens with the argument of "Think of the Children!"
+Space Sponge Thank you, I was unaware of this impending violation of my rights. Their mentality reminds me of the quote from the amazing comic Red Son: "Why don't you just put the entire world in a bottle, Superman?"
god it is so weird hearing the name "Matt Watson" in this video, what with all the memes on the SuperMega channel.. It's simultaneously frustrating that someone would do this, and absurd that I can't hear the name without thinking of funny boi
I thought that Wasp Removal videos were a niche video category on YouTube. I'm glad you acknowledge it, since I really think the videos give great insight into the mostly misunderstood creatures. I'm glad YouTube's promoting the content to wider audiences. I'm generally a big fan of insects in general and I'm glad content like it is getting the attention it deserves.
It’s like finding a nest of rats on a cruise ship and instead of telling any of the crew about the situation, it’d be more effective to sink the entire ship.
I'm usually pretty knowledgeable when it comes to YouTube drama and controversies... I have zero recollection of this one. #WTFU, The Leafy/Idubbbz/Keemstar beef, the Logan Paul controversy, YouTube Rewind 2018, I could go on all day about those, but this. No memory of this...
I liked the part where YouTube gave no warning to the brand managers and brands before making them pay immediately after offering the services for free as an enticement.
It's good to know YouTube doesn't give anyone warnings.
Th-...that actually does make me feel a little better. I still don't think YouTube treats as equal but....maybe we're not as second class as I thought.
Compartmentalization. You don’t gotta keep someone quiet about a conspiracy if they themselves don’t even know there is one or may be a part of one. Just because someone’s within the sphere a conspiracy that doesn’t mean they were a part of it. It’s like with the “did we go to the moon” shit. Everyone says there’s to many people involved someone woulda said something. And they’d be right. Unless all those people involved also believe that we went to the moon. You don’t gotta keep someone quiet when they all they know is exactly what you want everyone to know. And for the record, I do not believe the moon landing is fake. It’s just one of those conspiracies that are so monumental that people usually bring it up when talking about having to keep people quiet. Again, no one needs to keep quiet if they know no nothing. Need to know basis. That’s compartmentalization and conspiracy 101x
Since we're on the topic of "How did you reach this conclusion?!": Can I blame this guy for Raid Shadow Legends? Ads pull from YouTube itself and now favor speaking to Creators directly. Hence the birth of the 3 most annoying words in the English dictionary.
Plot Twist: Matt was actually an Industry Plant enlisted by Viacom in an attempt to take down Youtube out of resentment for their failed legal battle in 2007
If your job suddenly STOPPED PAYING YOU because a couple of people who you've never met were having an HR dispute, would you be totally cool with that? Because by painting Youtubers as self centered for getting mad about demonetization, this guy is saying you should be totally cool with that.
Frankly it's not their fucking problem if theres some bad actors on the platform, theres bad actors literally everywhere. Not to say that this problem doesnt exist, or doesnt matter, but why are you blaming people who are just trying to make a damn living?
The day YouTube stops demonetizing unfairly, large music corporations stop abusing copyright, and the majority of the community likes YouTube communication, I’ll animate a full 12 episode third season of Konosuba in MS Paint. Mark my words.
Cesar Alfredo The only things required would be the new version of Microsoft movie maker, Paint 3D, and the translated audio specials. Nothing there takes money, so a Patreon would be fully unnecessary.
@Based Ring-Squid yeah, it looks to me like one of those videos that put borders with strong colors to try and call your attention, like red circles (like the one on the right) or red arrows, only reason I watched it was because I know emplemon enough to know that the content is NOT dogshit.
Maybe just accomplish the KISS method with just the red face of the guy, and it would be fine. It fills you with intrigue that way.
I dont think it would be hard for someone who fails at making original, funny content to make it big by instead jumping on the trend of Cancel Culture, Outrage Culture, and SJWs. And you dont have to be a creative person to recognize the one thing pretty much everyone would be against would be pedos, and there was an actual issue with creeps commenting on kids videos. I can see someone telling him about that, and then realizing he could re-invent himself as an outraged SJW activist. And videos like that in a climate of people looking for things to be outraged about, its no surprise it went big. I think he left when he realized people were starting to question him, that they'd just continue to question him, and just took the money and ran before he could crash and burn.
Honestly, I dont think it needed a giant conspiracy or backing to pull off. A guy who wanted to be popular, and was angry he wasn't, maybe specifically upset about what he thought was good content that was being ignored in favor of drama and 'exposed' channels, and he decided to find something to make his own drama/''exposed' style video about while riding off the outrage culture (which im sure he probably had run-ins with, due to people being offended by some of the shit in his videos - and was probably annoyed by). Anyways, Im not saying that is what happened, but just that it makes sense and wouldnt be that hard, especially for someone who already had experience making videos.
The fact that the background song is “Next Whisky Bar” which features the line “show me the way to the next little girl” is brilliant and slightly disturbing.
Tbh seems most likely to me that he was just an idiot who stumbled ass backwards into mainstream popularity and decided to roll with it untill it got increasingly out of hand and then jumped ship
Man, I’ve been on this site for such a long time. At times I feel like I’ve seen everything on YouTube, but emp always manages to bring up interesting points and things nobody ever gives a second thought to on the site. Emp is like a living YouTube archive at this point.
$170 million is nothing. In Australia, an electricity retailer was fined $150 million for door-to-door knocking sales tactics. USA's population is 13x larger than Australia's.
34:04 To be fair not even I am familiar with the monetization mechanism and I've been on this platform since I was a kid, I've been a viewer since I was 8 but I've made videos dating back to 2012.
Emp, you knocked it out of the park on this one. I've been thinking for years that a lot of outrage on the internet was just a convenient outlet for corporate intrigue and this video makes the most plausible and coherent breakdown I've ever seen that makes me feel less like a man putting tinfoil on his head and more like a genuine skeptic who goes looking for an ulterior motive in outrage bait. YouTube Geographic is easily one of my favorite series on the internet and I hope you don't stop any time soon.
one thing, if this guy comes back, we all know what to do. No Mercy on his ass we basicaly will flood this guy with so many thins he wished he neve went back here.
Emp did a followup video on the guy already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIYyQEbLtHc To put it briefly, Matt was actually just really, really fucking stupid. Also, is that an Acceleracers avatar I spy?
I'm about nine months late, but could the point at around 20:50 be because the mainstream media is much less threatened by the business model of snapchat, instagram, and tiktok, than it is youtube? Youtube actively incroaches on video-based entertainment that NBC and other massive conglomerates thrive off of, so harshly criticizing them is a strategy for the older type (some millenials, but typically Gen X and older) to hopefully get a negative stereotype of youtube, and therefore default more to Netflix or traditional television. Not sure, maybe gone a bit too deep down a rabbit hole, but I think it could make sense. Snapchat, Tiktok, and Instagram don't have the same purpose or format as Youtube and television, so it could work
I feel like I should be paying for these on a site (but don't pls im poor). These videos are well researched and have such a high degree of quality that I have no clue how you get so many out on your own. Absolutely wonderful content man
If Matt is leftist it explains why his was so flawed. Some of the most common leftist traits include but are not limited to: A completely black and white world view(they’re the good guys and everyone else are the bad guys), cognitive dissidence(specifically an inability to think of certain ideas as being in any way valid or true even when objective evidence for those ideas is presented to them), and a lack of critical thinking skills(never questioning leftist ideals and beliefs even when they make little to no sense and/or deny basic facts). If Matt is a leftist then it makes sense why his plan was so shit. He’d view what he was doing as inherently good because he’s a leftist, never think his opponents had any valid criticisms, think his actions could never hurt people from the groups leftists so often claim to protect and to top it all off he would never question any of what he did or thought about any of this.
16:16 I don't think is damning, I mean we're all human, I wouldn't focus on smiling when reading something like that, I would just read. Keep in mind I'm commenting this before watching the rest of the video so take it with a grain of salt
I had made a kik account years ago with a picture of my girlfriend at the time, we were 16 and when I finally ended up looking at it like a year later, people had sent me loads of the most horrible pictures you could imagine asking for pictures from my girlfriend. Kik is a problem
Cartmanbrah where did I tell you I used pictures without people’s permission and sorry I wasn’t aware when I was a child I didn’t know what the underground of that app was
Why does it seem that any controversy has political ties? It also often seems to use right winged political figures as some scapegoat. If you do simple research it’s obvious youtube leans left on the political scale and often times punishes right winged content. If there’s any advertisement issues, it’s the issue of political favoritism. People who upload content that is “politically incorrect” as comedy are often punished and put in the same bin as right winged people. Categorizing groups is the worst thing to do. YouTube’s advertisement is clearly flawed, but the only way people hear about the issue is YouTube itself in most cases. This has made it so those who have issues with YouTube will be blacklisted by YouTube, but if enough left news networks bring it up, YouTube is out of control, so if you want something to become popular, be liberal, be “woke”. For all we know YouTube could’ve been working with Matt to make them seem more woke by “taking action” after being called out. Im not certain on everything here and these are my observations, and I don’t claim that any of this is concrete factual evidence, but I do claim it as observations.
I have a genuine question. What is your process for writing a video essay such as this? Every video I see by you, despite the extreme variance in topic, is extremely well done - well put together, well researched, well-executed. The quality consistently amazes me and I just want a bit more insight into how you do it.
There's a shit fucking ton of videos of babies and kids on YT, most often uploaded with generic "fresh from the phone" titles like MOV [four to six digit number] or AVI.
They aren't necessarily explicit in content, and most of them are just like people who are potentially unknowingly uploading videos of their kids and family. "Foolish parents" etc. These should only really only exploitable by highly dedicated sickos with active imaginations i guess but it's one if those odd things. The platform just reflects the users really
plot twist it's actually "Matt and Ryan from SuperMega?" combined into basically just Ryan with ginger hair and keeping matt's (Watson) name, before splitting back to their respective body after completing Markiplier's devilish plan...
They are so desperate to hear "We did it Reddit!" that they don't really care about what it exactly was that they 'did', just that they did it. Same deal with when they thought they had the boston bomber. Same deal with the dead body in the Hong Kong 97 game. Jumping to conclusions because it's far more satisfying to have a conclusion, even a wrong one, than to have loose ends.
@Predator 20357 4Chan can be real scary when they have a motive. Reddit just follows whoever promises them to do "something" like a bunch of sheep. The rest of the time they're both just a toxic wasteland
@Predator 20357 But, 4chan is the far better one of the two. You can say whatever the fuck you want and it won't be traced back to you, there's more freedom of speech, and there's no stupid "you need 100 karma points to post on this very exclusive and respected subreddit" bullshit.
Maybe he really had no motive, and when he opportuniny stroke, he tried to milk it, and to not get caught and get exposed as a fraud or a villain, he just backed off with his money. How much money he could have got? $100'000? That is pretty a lot. Of course, he could milk it even further, but since he wasn't a real professional he just backed off and continued having a normal life.
Matt was the very definition of someone who didn't actually have good intentions and was just angry and wanted to take everyone down a peg it seemed. He wanted to be a hero it's hysterical
honestly, it is pretty creepy how everything about the video was perfectly planned to make it go viral as big as possible, from the self reddit post , using current subscribers to bump it to the front page, the clickbait thumbnail and title to choosing a theme that quickly makes people angry and makes it very hard for anyone to speak against the video without recieving alot of hate.
38:12 That is an amazing way to censor words that will demonetize the entire video, the way it worked with the pace of the video and the tone of the moment was perfect. Who was the editor on that part too? I kind of want to know, I can't tell if it's EMP, but this seems like a colab with another person.
Was not expecting a documentary on a random flash in the pan to get spun into a roast of YT's shitty communication. It just feels like rhetorical whiplash.
I don’t know about you guys, but I have never once seen an ad for Apple or whatever on a video and thought ‘hmmm yes, Tim Cook personally advocates for this Steamed Hams edit and I now want an iPhone’ or vice versa. I don’t think anyone but maybe boomers care about what content soulless corporations advertise on.
Google really needs to hold a Yes/No poll on their front page asking that question So they can tell the Buzzfeed and Trash Online Article crowd to shove off
i skimmed through the comments before watching the video and i thought the matt watson other commenters were mentioning was the sweet baby boy from super mega 😂
can we talk about the fact that Justice, still alive from portal, and GT4 menu music all made an appearance in this video? I just thought that was neat
I think the truth of this ordeal lies between all possibilities. Heres my speculation towards the whole thing :
-Matt started his channels as a way to combat the politcal/"extremist" influencers by means of making satirical videos as a way to take them down a notch.
-At some point, matt quit everything as his slow growth in comparison to the people that drew his ire was something that bothered him.
-At a later point in time, Matt's content is discovered by someone in a high place and he's later contacted by them. In exchange for his cooperation, he gets to help implement a massive change on youtube that directly hits the very people he despised, with all of the "child predator" stuff thrown into the conversation to make him see it as both a morally righteous obligation as well as a means to exact something of a petty revenge against his "enemies"
-Matt forever changes the platform by being directly responsible for making youtube an unsustainable job for non-left youtubers while feeling like a champion for "saving the kids" despite ultimately having being used like a pawn by the corporate elite who only sought cheaper advertising and the final nail in the coffin for the only kind of people thatd bother to bring unfortunate truths regarding the elite and their business practices to the public
I thought the LGBT community on YouTube got demonetized when they mention any related words to sexual orientation? Honestly any politics is what made Youtube garbage.
It's not that right wingers are getting demonetized more, they just scream the loudest. Most left wingers also get constantly demonetized which is why they have to rely on patreons.
Matt really proved his political incompetence more than anything here. He has no understanding of one of the cornerstones of Leftism; worker solidarity. He was so concentrated on destroying YouTube, because he saw it as "problematic", to the point where he fucked over his fellow workers (YouTubers)...
@Sam Price My exact thoughts on the subject. Sometimes people outside the status quo get coopted into serving it, (which is obvious, but needs to be on the record, here.) And furthermore, its not uncommon for Neoliberalism to use various radical groups to control each other, to pit them against each other. Some of my fellow leftists have argued that fascist movements are often fed by Neoliberals or Classical Liberals specifically to combat Leftists in the field without having to commit state resources towards keeping us in check.
Bad take: "Matt forever changes the platform by being directly responsible for making youtube an unsustainable job for non-left youtubers" This take me cancer. My favorite left wing video is censored on Youtube. Even people who are only slightly left wing have trouble monetizing content. Right wingers aren't an oppressed minority.
I mean, EmpLemon pointed this out, that Leftists got skewered, too. And honestly, if he had only made it hard for the far, far right to make it, I'd be perfectly fine with that, because agitating for mass murder should be illegal.
@Tuffluck Can you say "strawman?" Centrism has mass murderers under its belt. I'm more concerned with praxis than theory. Mass murder is bad praxis, unless your goa is mass murder, in which case, I don't care what flag you fly under, you're not a comrade, and you're probably an imperialist, left, right, or center.
those catcalling clips in the car were soo cringy. Like I know it happens unfortunately but I can't imagine what the hell is going through peoples' minds when they do it
I remember when that video recommend to me, but I didn’t watch because I thought it was about the whole elsagate thing, but turns it was something worse.
The algorithm is really "forgetful", something that I think really worsens the platform. Regardless of subs and the weight of your past viewing habits, your feed quickly becomes unrecognizable based on one or two videos, and the feedback loop just reinforces it. I never had the cp sketchiness wormhole but from history videos to gun stuff to right wing 2a shit throwing, sure. Likewise with conspiracy theory stuff, outrage over any given subject, even demonology/supernatural stuff after watching some creepypasta stuff. It might be indiscriminate but the potential for seriously gaslighting vulnerable people is undeniable, exacerbated by the tendency for mentally unwell people to isolate and do things like sit on youtube. You'd think some of the engineers would try to balance the need to optimize for clicks with concerns for users' wellbeing and the general quality of the experience, but the metrics don't necessarily tell that story
@kaivitee15 Matt Watson is also the name a member of the Let's Playing Comedy YouTube channel SuperMega.He also used to edit for GameGrumps then he left
@Varangian af Scaniae Sounds more like an exploit than a glitch. Exploits are using mechanics as intended to produce unintended consequences; glitches are unexpected mechanics with unexpected consequences.
@Varangian af Scaniae code works however it was written, wether or not it was written correctly according to the user’s intent. Bugs come about because of crappy coding, coding that’s been written improperly.
It seems obvious to me that matt was a disgruntled youtuber that wanted revenge on the platform. Thats how he started it. He had the knowledge to get that final bit of content viewed, and thats where his influence ended.
After he makes and posts, an opportunist looking for a corporate advantage took advantage, scaling the video well past where it wouldve originally gone. People blame the reddit hivemind for everything, but the reality is that default subs are sold to the highest bidder, and that reddit itself is so deep in the stink (and profits so immensely from the process) that they have no real ability or reason to change that. A few thousand bought upvotes later, and the (coincidentally) excellently timed controversey is now the big thing on reddit.
From there, its a wink and a nudge to a couple affiliate news networks to push the story wider, regardless of what the crrator did or didnt send. Once it becomes mainline newsworthy, the remainder of the media follows suit because modern news outlets are lemmings. And of course, no interviews are necessary - matt himself wants networks to be the loudspeaker for sharing, not the platform to share on, and the networks are happy enough to satisfy their hate boner for youtube without needing any further info, so why would they pursue an interview?
Bing bang boom. One unremarkable coincidence later (the video's publication relative to convenience for marketing budgets) and you have your manufactured controversey.
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Alias Z502020-03-29 12:00:13 (edited 2020-04-01 09:09:56 )
Is there any youtuber that doesnt fit your initial description ?
What about the "ridding right wing reactionaries of their platform" narrative? What about the points emplemon brought up: Matt clearly had knowledge on how to promote content, why not use that knowledge to make better content and change his channel around?
My theory is that Matt wasn't a "failed youtuber". He was simply doing youtube for fun, he never intended to "make it". But he felt more and more dissatisfied with anti-sjw incel types getting attention on youtube. Seeing as he didn't really care about his own channel, he decided to use it to fake this controversy and then abandon youtube.
@Asuka Langley Soryu Honestly that sounds kinda dumb , an ad pocalypse would hurt everyone equally. And is not like the carlos maza thing were the outrage was stricly political
he might not have been planning this, but he may have been approached. Just some e-mail or maybe he met someone at something where people who politically think the same might meet and then he just offered himself as someone who could pull it off as he already had a youtube channel.
would explain the sudden appearence and disappearence and his attitude perfectly, if it was sheer hatred for youtube than he would react to youtube tweeting out an apology like it was a gotcha moment instead of a reaction more resembling being scared or surprised. Like he is not allowed to display his emotions but his mind went like "oh shit this might not work".
Personally, I am under the belief that it was started to hide something since things could be readily ignored in front of a larger controversy. Without a doubt, I can bet you someone had put him up to this; who remains a mystery. The fact is that people will question him and not really who is behind him. If you consider the fact he had already been on the platform that would leave a trail to follow. The fact of the matter is that trail is a dead end other than the fact of raising questions. Most likely someone saw that he was not too successful at first and seeing that he wanted a way up most likely financially someone took advantage of a face. What I figure happened is someone coordinated his stunt for him as in his live streams and videos himself he seems very obvious when trying to explain away something that would contradict his statement. The other genius moves at very well placed times and the right topics seem almost too good for his person unless someone was telling him what to do.
the funny thing is this was probably meant to be more of a current events video as he was writing the script, but It became a history video by the time it was published.
Well, looking at this Excel spreadsheet with the whole timeline, it's not unlikely. However, even if that was the case - it's for the better that Emp has put the video on the back burner and waited for the situation to develop (because Matt's following absence is also a factor here).
I know you’ve heard this a million times, but I really like your style of editing. It’s shit post levels of insane, but somehow you have my attention and I take you incredibly seriously when you do your videos.
"It was a trade between the corporate elite, a trade that YouTube tried to hide. A trade, if known about, would set in motion the collapse of the site." -A quote copied from Browny Mapping
Ive watched a ton of emp lemon and this video is probably my least favorite it ignores the entire purpose of child endangerment and instead somehow manages to drive off a cliff on everything emp lemon is supposed to stand against.. Its using selective clips to drive a narrative? Somehow that narrative becomes he's a corporate plant lol? Advertisers should care about the .001% of content their brand appears on? At the end of the day he promoted site wide change at a temporary hit to creators wallets. Finding fallacies to shit on him doesn't change anything. Being mad that this issue was pointed out to no change before is just stupid. It got pointed out and it changed systems in place why are you downplaying this because he's a moron? Who cares? I saw his video when it was released and I didn't go tweet at advertisers. Just because someone advocates extremism doesn't mean their point is invalid. As to saying his entire purpose was to lower ad rev costs... Jesus man.... honestly just a disappointing hot take
Lies and deceptions always end you up creating hell. Beware all for every action has its consequence. The corporations will pay sooner or alter. May your life be for the pursuit of heaven. Try your best and God will reward your heartfelt actions. The Lord is merciful and He just wants what’s best for you if you let Him work with you. We all choose heaven or hell ultimately.
Reddit by its own creation was kind of destined to be a hole for propogandists as soon as it went mainstream. Social media in general is made to serve millions as a pose to being a place to share things with friends and family. because the latter has very little profit to it compared to the former. The entire internet has had to cater its content to offended small minded chumps with low attention spans simply because of the wide mainstream breadth of it. Its very much like walking into a walmart now, where the content is shaped in a certain way. The problem is unlike the walmart, where they want to sell you nerf soakers and chicken, social media has bad faith actors who want to capture your attention with headlines, or completely reshape the public understanding on stuff. You kind of start to realize that what all these websites share in common is that they give the most power to the original powerful people i.e. hollywood, politicians, and journalists. It kind of stinks of a conspiracy, but I think these things are so well known now you'd be hard pressed to call it that.
Something I’ve notice is individual user carry more weight than other channels meaning someone like pewdiepie who watches a video or likes/commons gets booster more than if I’ve done the same my channels could be a basic 1 where pewdiepie would be a 10, providing a system that is very similar to “people who like ... also watch...” fill in the blank. There are many systems behind closed doors however it’s actually more apparent than the average viewer could relies however someone who spends 12+hours a day on YouTube can start to see the strings behind the act. I’ve been experimenting with this for years and actually got more involved the past couple years by making several accounts and tracking how they serve content most importantly never make more than one account on one device in order to get actual data I used my local library and used different computers and noticed patterns when using multiple accounts on one computer.
Is this why I can't comment on any goddamn disney songs or spongebob episodes? Impressive. Can only hope to one day get an idea for a breakthrough video with a similar impact. How about "youtube facilitates fascism"? Find some ultra-conservative and racist videos and comments, rile people up, get conservative youtubers kicked out, profit? /emThinking
theres is one guy who does the nest removal and then takes out all the wasp larvas individually and feeds them to his chickens, it sounds disgusting but its oddly satisfying/ interesting. I think it's also more interesting because its not like a normal big youtubers video where who knows how much is scripted and its the same jolly act, this is just some real ass dude working a real ass job doing his thing and uploading it.
"You just care about the money" as he simply makes a monetized and controversial video that affects others when he could have easily contacted youtube with this.
There' wouldn't be a visible, above the line vandalized property without the billboard, so in the most strict and literal sense, yes the billboard owner has to own to it, and clean it or remove it paying their pocket.
Incredible as always emp. I’m so glad that you’re willing to do the deep dive on this kinda stuff. You easily are one of the best content creators on the platform.
There’s a thin line between villain and anti-hero, and MattsWhatItIs drew a squiggly line over it all the way to the finish line. And it was a fascinatingly weird ride for YouTube’s community.
I KNEW that was a very, very fishy person behind that whole entire thing, I didn't know it was this fishy. Thanks for clearing and exposing much more stuff than I would have looked into!
Smaurf maybe they are now but in the original SOTY podcast series mumkey and rusty displayed an innate and frustrating misunderstanding of reddit and Redditors. Some real boomer tier shit
A lot of people dislike YT for various reasons. I think that the silent hate carried it further. I know a lot of people who knew better, but went along with it because f-goog or f-yt (for very varied reasons). I think less people were 'fooled' than you imply here.
The problem of "Help a reporter out" where people can write your own "news" copy is one worthy of its own video (and congressional inquiry).
Incredible video Emp. This one stands out. Your content demands a higher level of critical thinking than most are willing to use as a youtube viewer, while supporting your claims with visuals absolutely masterfully. This video really streched my mind muscles out and made me think. Thank you for making what makes you happy, it makes all of your real subs, as opposed to those pesky "empty subs", very happy as well to recieve mentally enriching content from their fav former pooper. Keep it up. I look forward to all your future content.
I hate to say this but, at 30:26 that is a lot like the tirades & tangents I use go off on, when I still drank. The pills made of poppy would make me like that as well, glad that's over.
dude, i was on TikTok one day and there was a pfp of a little girl stripped I'm not gonna get in detail but shit that's nasty as fuck and horrible and there are no mobs I see more pedos on TikTok duets its nasty as hell its sickening i deleted TikTok and all social media and I just uses text
I 11 days between announcement about Youtube pulling out additional funding and start of campaign is way to low for such big plan to be made. Even assuming someone knew earlier, like month earlier. 70 articles at once? Thats a lot of people to push. I Wonder how much my view is Different because of not being affected by usa history with corporate propaganda
This video is astoundingly convincing. You're a great writer, congratulations for making something as well produced as this. Also, having to be on the same side and relying on Keemstar really shows how that Matt dude cornered YouTube. Damn.
If it's not their responsibility, why are they claiming it is to shut down certain political views. YT is a bunch of hypocrites at the end of the day. ijs
guy was either manic or delusional or had some sort of power fantasy. can't blame the one loonie for causing an uproar, blame everyone else who bought into it without doing any sort of due diligence or even consulting common sense
Lovely Video. Just one little thing, 21:01 You portray it as if Reddit never outrages on Instagram or TikTok. To this I can only say, my friend, have you ever been to Reddit? As far as I know, the Hivemind hates no apps more than TikTok and Instagram. Most Redditors wish for the death of TikTok there are so many memes about it on r/memes. Maybe you just didn't know but if you did... that's a weird choice of background there.
@ProGremlinPlayer yes me too and its impossible thats its a coincident that he came right after the thing between youtube and advertisers with the comtracts
I actually stumbled on Matt's videos way back in March 2018. I was pretty depressed, getting into "self-help", and was actually recommended one of videos after watching a Tony Robbins Ted Talk lol
I can't remember if I subscribed to him (I was using a different account at the time) but I DO remember he had a loyal following and was averaging about 100,000 views per video (which I consider to be a decent view count when you're a fringe channel).
I remember when the YouTubeWakeUp video showed up on my home page and actually didn't watch it bc I remembered not really liking his pseudo-alpha-anti-fap schtick and honestly thought it was just the YouTube algorithm recommending me one of his videos a year after I had initially found his channel.
I was honestly shocked when I found out how big it was because I literally found this guy when he was making anti-porn videos filled with erratic rants, but like I said, he had a pretty loyal following.
He was anything but a failed YouTuber. A bit of a strange guy, but he wasn't a failure. That argument never made sense to me.
@Antony Chigurh I'm curious why he disappeared then. I don't think the corporate plant thing is impossible. I actually thought that he failed first, then just happened to be picked up for that job. Maybe he was a corporate plant from the get-go, and wiping his channel was just a requirement for the job.
Either way it's a shame. 100k a video is awesome. I would've killed to get a thousandth of that activity back when I tried streaming. They must've made him an offer that he just couldn't refuse.
Darkinin I was also a fan of Matt’s. From a couple years ago. Towards the end of his videos he was producing less and less content. Think he was just falling out of love for it or maybe even the depression was getting to him. There’s so many reasons if you knew the type of person he was. Oh and ppl are saying he was paid by corporations lmao. No not really. At that time he pretty much had left YouTube. But he came back with this one video that blew up and I guess it got to his head
#PickASideYouTube seems to be legit motivated. I've heard MamaMax is actually actively working with law enforcement to properly clean up YouTube. The call to action on the other hand... Yea it looks pretty disingenuous (and people don't care much for the discount Punisher shtick). It's weird really. Least he's not going after the advertisers.
I am only 7 minutes in. And i do want to continue watching but I gotta say this: Let’s compare youtube to a newspaper since both publish and in some capacity or other broadcast content. If the newspapers just had guidelines about what it can or not publish and then editorials or adds break those guidelines you bet that the newspaper will be held accountable for publishing that. In the case of tech companies and youtube it doesn’t work that way, but perhaps it should. Perhaps they should be held accountable and these billon making companies should put more effort (even if that is manual human moderation and takes longer to publish something) in enforcing their rules.
Sure it is not like youtube is actively seeking to encourage this behavior as Matt says but to say it is impossible to moderate is what I am against. Youtube is trying to patch the issue with silly rules that cost pennies. But the content could be truly reviewed and moderated more effectively even if that costs more if youtube would be made accountable of what happens
Attacking the bottomline of the company is actually a great way to make them react and change their system. The argument of “instead he should direct people to report videos” is weak, again think newspaper: Newspaper says oh i published that because nobody reported on it if people does then i will recall and reprint papers and all along not be responsible of what was published. Weak weak argument.
how do you expect them to manually check the hundreds of hours of video that are uploaded every second? its just not possible to do with humans and its already being done with AI
Luke Hartley2020-06-02 11:32:16 (edited 2020-06-02 11:34:45 )
Wait a minute Wormhole... Spiral... A YouTuber disenfranchised with the site... Perhaps someone who's ytps suddenly weren't doing well. And we never knew his true identity you say?
"Make up" isn't how I would put it since the problem of child predators getting horny over these videos of children in compromising positions was very real, but if his intention was to generate a ton of attention/reddit karma from that situation then he definitely smashed that ceiling lmao
A yes let's defend YouTube the same website . Who made dezmon is amezing . And onsion And the amezing athiest and his body count. And the same company that got under hot water . When the coppa story happened . And every YouTube's start to shills for something they don't care about Not like YouTube will even care about them .
The amount of editing and research you do for these videos is astonishing. I came across you when uploaded "Leafy was here" video and I binged watched your entire channel after. I'm very happy I subbed then you are what YouTube needs, quality editing, attention to detail, memes and good writing. I'm very excited to see what you cover next, you keep amazing me with your consistency for quality content. Keep working hard emp.
I don't really like the take here tbh. It doesn't really matter what the intent of Matt was, at least for me, or if he had any ulterior motives. These kind of things that the algorithm of youtube facilitate are absolutly horrific, and we can't allow companys to hide behind the "Oh it's just the quirky algorithm uwu" excuse at all, ESPECIALLY if they themselfs developed, tested and shipped that algorithm and it's their most precious recource as well. It's not "the" algorithm, it's "their" alogrithm, they human developers working for YT wrote it. And yes, cases like child abuse and child pornography that are a direct product of their algorithm they should be held responsible to the same standart as if they wrote any other piece of software that facilitated the same kind of exploitation. I'm a software developer myself, working in a company that heavily utilizes AI and these kind of "black-box" algorithms and I can say with confidence, it's not going anywhere. This issue with algorithms will be ever increasing and we need to start holding companies responisible to much, much higher standarts, before it is to late. This instace might be downplayed, but we have to pick up the fight and start somwhere and this could have been it. Algorithms used to in the health care or car inssurace sector are using racial profililing to determ payments, even if things like "skin color" are not part of the data being fed in. Modern, trained algorithms are findishly "smart", and we impart every bias we have into them, when we train them. This is a not a issue of of child exploitation or of youtube themself, it's a much much bigger issue that will affect the entire world in the coming decades.
I love so many of your videos but it always makes your videos worse when you go on centrist rants against the "mainstream media". Like in your video about trump you railed against the main-stream media not giving trump any credit for the North Korea summit. It didn't work at all, they knew they shouldn't have given him credit because there was a precedent showing his actions wouldn't work. Then in this video, your entire section about leftist youtube having a theory about the right-wing rabbit hole led absolutely nowhere, and just felt like a disjointed rant against something you don't personally enjoy. Why did you mention the three arrows video? You said there was a reason but included nothing.
Once again, love like 90% of the runtime of all of your videos, but next time you're complaining about left-wing bias or SJW's or Trump-hating, maybe examine your own biases. It would make your videos a lot more entertaining for a much wider audience.
Tons of media is biased and toxic and straight-up wrong, but (i haven't seen all of your videos so correct me if i'm wrong) you only seem to focus on fringe-left wing positions while ignoring the dangerous and widespread fringe right-wing positions and groups.
40:49 I feel gaslit, wtf is going on here? Why is "intel" censored? I know it's fallen from grace lately and everyone is on the AMD bandwagon (I've always been there cause I'm poor) but that's a bit extreme.
f i was a company looking for cheaper ad rates,i'd definately pick a guy with a questionable youtube background. that way,when everything blows over, he could act as a scapegoat and most people would believe he did it to get revenge on the community
I still hate never being able to see any of the comments on any of my favorite childhood videos or songs. I wish they would let you see and comment on all videos if you are over 18
@Wasted I've seen a few GTA videos marked as for kids as well, i can't even listen to some classic video game music on my phone in the background because it gets flagged. We might not have had the COPPAcalypse everyone was losing their minds over but it still hit the site really hard, not to mention someone i know LITERALLY UPLOADED CROPPED FURRY HENTAI and it got flagged
Youtube doesn’t seem to understand the difference between “videos FOR kids” and “videos WITH kids”. I can see how there may be pedophiles time-stamping under a video of a little girl dancing, but there certainly are no pedophiles lurking around in the comments section of “Kung Fu Panda - Oogway ascends”.
@Wasted They're capable of recognizing specific games, even ones nobody's heard of ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qRCzIj9QEo ) so I THINK the goal is ContentID will categorize things too.
Dont know if anyones mentioned it, i really dont want to scroll down in the comments to check but shout if you heard his epic music selection of The Doors :D
Honestly, my hypothesis is human stupidity. Some idiot nobody had a manic episode, concocted this weird plan to fuck YT over, the media took advantage of it and the situation spiraled out of control. The industry plant hypothesis is now discredited as he came back and no other hypothesis can fully explain all the factors. For me, its a combination of disillusion with the platform, anger towards the right-wing and human error. The media and advertisers then took advantage of the situation to score a goal against YT and give advertisers the perfect excuse to demand higher premiums upon returning. Unless Matt one day comes clean, we will probably never know his true intentions.
Considering his history of satirical content, perhaps the whole thing was meant to be a giant, sick troll, a parody of YouTube, or at least his perception of YouTube, itself, and the whole thing got out of hand. As said, we will likely never know.
Matt seems like he's an SCP who breached containment
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Dr. Oofers2020-03-31 20:34:53 (edited 2020-03-31 20:35:16 )
steve cooper He’s one of the physiological manipulative scps. As he’s able to draw a crowd and convert people to his side despite flaws in his “research.”
God dame, Matt is the fucking Joker. LMAO; bro no one knows who he is, his true identity hasn't been discovered, and he fooled millions into some elaborate scheme. Dame, I don't know if I respect it or what, but it's funny as hell to me at least.
Ngl, for a random redditor who wanted to change a platform he had little connection to, he sure had an extensive list for contacting advertisers that partnered with YouTubers
excellent video, could it be possible that the truth lies somewhere between theory 2 and 3? matt couldve been using a fake alias for his channel and ultimately had a political goal in line [that sounds like the most factually consistent theory to me], and perhaps using his proffesional connections with companies and news media, he agreed to keep quiet and delete his edgy content as a small price to pay for potentially ceasing the funding of everyone, inclduing far-right youtubers [the "lesser evil" so to speak]. Or the company simply used this random that stumbled by for their corporate gains. Guess we'll never kno at this point
He was a channel centered around nofap before he made those vids. The channel in which he posted the “YouTube Wake Up” videos on was his original channel. That “first channel” is his second one. You can just go look at how old the two channels are. It’s crazy cause I’m the only one who knows this cause he deleted all of his old vids and no one dug them up at all.
aaaahhhhhh, what a gem! i remember his video getting recommended to me right about when it came out; i watched a lot of similar commentary content at the time, but his video rubbed me the wrong way. the overall attitude towards corporate culture, as well as the methods he chose for promoting his agenda seemed kinda weird even back then. never got another video of his recommended ever again. it is, of course, suspicious, but i’ve never imagined this wOrMhOlE to be this deep.. it makes a little bit more sense now, thanks can’t wait to read all the conspiracy theories in the comments
19:10, Mister L'amour (Mister Sandman) by Adalbert Lutter Et Son Orchestre 1957.
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Jacob Moreno2020-03-31 18:25:06 (edited 2020-03-31 18:25:39 )
regarding the last theory: would it really be far fetched to think of this as youtube's version of social media "bots" (like fake accounts with enough background to confuse for a real person). Here in Mexico it is known as a very successful strategy to the point where we know they swarm all platforms as important events unfold related to government. The main difference between other platforms and this one is that the algorithm would not help the swarm of bots do their noise as everywhere else.
Reddit's downvoting system is inherently flawed because it hides posts with unpopular opinions. While it can hide things like spam (rarely), or hide obvious stupidity (like blatant racism), more often than not all it does is shut down actual honest conversation.
@PON PON PATA PON reddit is a massive website with many communities sk it really depends. But yea, a lot of people there are quite smoothbrained and are more than happy to shut down oposition with downvotes.
17:27 @le roi des rats a l'époque youtube avais déjà régis a cet vidéo ^^
@EmpLemon YouTube did react to the video but later on Le roi de srats figure out that the problem not only is on youtube but on every social network all of this just to find out that its impossible to stop 12 years old kid neivly posting Gym exercise video and then this video to be shared by some weird network of guy posting comment like "continue to upload please you look pretty"
But I bet you see the effects it on YouTube somehow. Like disabled comments sections on clips from kids' content. At least now you know why we're here.
I wonder how much money he made by doing this. "I don't know how to turn off monetization", riiiiiight. This could be your actual explaination right there, it was essentially a heist. Get in, whip up a frenzy to get the views, cash in, disappear into the darkness with the ad money you made. This one seems to fit pretty much everything and has no need for an elaborate conspiracy.
Except for his reactions. I think maybe it was a heist of sorts and he wanted to sink youtubers at the same time. Then corporations took it over in the news-space to make a tidy buck.
Abdul Masaiev setting up a live stream and making a video ain’t hard cause it’s more widespread than setting up monetization on your channel. I can start a live stream from my PlayStation or my iPad, doesn’t mean I know how to monetize those.
@tph_dragon I mean, yeah. Setting up the monetization is the hard part, so "I don't know how to turn it off" is some weak shit when you first need to make the effort (and have the know-how) to turn it on in the first place.
@Abdul Masaiev is that how it works? I genuinely have no idea how monetization works from a creators perspective. That's why I thought his argument seemed legit.
@tph_dragon Essentially what you do is first you need to qualify for being able to run ads. Once you do though you can turn them on in the video settings (the usual autodemonetising caveats apply, being a whole other topic). Turning them off is a matter of going to that exact same place where you turned them on and again clicking the exact same toggle you clicked before. Maybe it used to be different some years ago, I don't know, but I doubt the difference was such that you could turn them on and then be completely at a loss as to how to turn them off. My guess is that even if you had to go to a different place to find the toggle, it was still the one toggle either way.
@Abdul Masaiev oh damn. I didn't know it was that easy. I just always assumed that turning it on and off were different and that you didn't have to turn it on to be monetized. Thanks for clearing that up then.
@tph_dragon Yeah, no problem. Though full disclosure, I'm not somebody who personally has any videos with ads, this is just some of the random knowledge I picked up around the place, in bits and pieces (and there were a lot of them floating around when everyone was in meltdown about the adpocalypse, you could get some serious peeks behind the curtain). If you find out this is actually all horribly, horribly wrong, do let me know, but the official youtube tutorial page for turning off ads for a video seems to confirm this.
Yes, lets make money on youtube by working everyone into a frenzy and contacting advertisers, thereby hurting ad rates for everyone, including yourself, flawless! I'm not saying he didn't want to profit off of what he was doing, but the idea of making some quick cash whilst at the same time hurting monetization doesn't really make much sense. It's like emp says, if he knew how to manipulate reddit to get views, then why not do it for his own content? It's not a flawless argument since the motive doesn't really make sense considering what his interest was in. If he wanted to whip up a controversy for a quick profit, then why do it in a way that harms your method of getting money from doing it?
@Abdul Masaiev The thing is you have no evidence he even made a considerable amount off of the ad revenue, let alone the idea that this could even work as a heist. We don't know how early ad rates were effected, so we can't prove it one way or the other. Also the reason him knowing how to manipulate audiences is NOT a point in support of you is because you discount the fact that he'd have more to gain from using it as a way to grow his channel rather than for a big controversy which only gives him a limited amount of time to make money before he is forced to cash out. You would accept that if you actually cared about being objective rather than trying to win an argument. Your hypothesis is practically baseless and is only supported by the idea that he may have been lying about not knowing how to turn off monetization. The other hypotheticals have far more going for them in that they actually present evidence, such as his reddit posts, and draw conclusions from that rather than making a single massive leap of logic. It's like saying "a wizard did it" is the best explanation for everything because it doesn't require you to think about anything. The only reason your hypothesis isn't a "grand conspiracy" like the others is because you're making an assumption off of a single statement and then ignoring any possible flaws, unlike the other hypotheticals that accept there are still parts that may not add up completely.
@Captain Weekend It's true I discount that. I do so deliberately, and I already said why. Repeatedly. The scenario has him being done with youtube, and so pulling a heist as he goes out. Why would that scenario possibly care re: "but what about his channel grooooooowth"? There never was going to be any since in it he was already planning to get out, for whatever reason. So funny thing, that's half of your big rambly reply completely missing this most basic point. Missing the point is pretty much your primary theme, really, since it continues to go on and on, with a small side order of general wrongness. Not one (not a single one) thing you said is in any way on the mark, nor do you even show any signs of understanding what it is you're even trying to argue against (or even any willingness to obtain that undertanding so you could maybe actually argue against it)... nor any signs that this fact bothers you or slows you down in any way.
I've been on this internet merry-go-round before, I know exactly how it goes, and I know what outcomes come from what choices here. I pick "I'm out". Feel free to keep talking and maybe tossing some more insulting insinuations my way though, if you find rambling into the ether in that manner fun or therapeutic.
@Abdul Masaiev You're completely missing the point because you've already come to your conclusion before even proposing your hypothesis, unlike the others you're building the evidence around your conclusion, rather than looking at the evidence before drawing a conclusion. You can say that he maybe wouldn't care about channel growth to justify your hypothesis, but to say it doesn't factor in at all is basically you saying that your hypothesis is correct, which then ceases to be a hypothesis at all and is you just saying something is true despite lacking the evidence to prove it. Sure, for the sake of your hypothesis we can assume that he was looking to get out, but that doesn't suddenly make any argument against it suddenly invalid. You have no way of proving it was his intent to pull a youtube hiest, that's the point you miss completely. Honestly you're just resorting to ad hominem to ad hominem, which makes it pretty rich when it's basically what you're accusing me of doing. Your hypothesis is bad, and throwing a tantrum when someone points out a flaw in your argument makes you look incredibly juvenile. Maybe grow up a bit and learn how to have a conversation like an adult, you can disagree with someone without getting personal, after all, part of the reason for proposing a hypothesis in the first place is to find the flaws, not plug your ears whenever someone disagrees with you, but I think it's safe to say from your response that you don't understand the basics of hegelian dialectics.
@Captain Weekend I'm just going to say I'm very amused that you actually went ahead and did continue to ramble your nonsense into the void. Hope you realize that nobody will ever read it other than you. I certainly have no plans to.
@Captain Weekend Well, hope your future internet interactions go better. Going over how this went down could show you some things which could help with that, but I empathise with you being in no mood for advice from me so hey, have a good night yourself, and good luck in the future.
Allegedly...Someone in his life caught him with questionable material and he said he was just researching the evil and then he went on a warpath when it turned out to be lucrative for his channel.
Rabbit holes imply lots of things to find (hudden chambers more videos) wormhole implys bringing you straight to a thing (like watching one meme video and suddenly youre being reccomneded a ton of memes) Wormhole is the right word for the red head to use
@Lizard with internet i apprciate the clarification but i didnt say it was inescapeable, as i wasnt implying blackhole. im sure theres some metaphor you could apply blackholes to! <3
I remember this happening actually it was crazy as fuck. A bunch of YouTubers were being affected by this and it ended in COPPA being forced to take action. Twas a crazy time for YouTube.
4chan is only motivated by memes or things that collectively anger them. In short, unless this dude was hitting people with bike locks, I think 4chan had little reason to care.
@JakeSpacePirate E Reddit and 4chan are two sides of the same coin. But at least on 4chan the site won't actively censor you for challenging people or shadow ban you for saying "soy"
@Umi ZoomR he is most likely referencing the whole Shia Lebeouf He Will Not Devide Us thing. 4chan kept fucking with him and found out where he had his flags planted, and whatnot. It's so hilariously interesting. Id recommend watching internet historians video on it if you have the time.
@JakeSpacePirate E reddit once attempted to pull a 4chan and investigate the Boston Marathon bombing to try and find who was behind it. They ended up coming across a middle Eastern man who they harassed until he took his own life. Turns out he was innocent and completely unrelated. 4chan isn't that sloppy, when they do something stupid they know their limits
@JakeSpacePirate E better than reddit, place is a trash echo chamber safe space. Atleast in 4 chan I wont be castrated and banned from a sub for having a different opinion or for criticism.
4chan couldn't find anything on the guy. I remember some threads trying but nothing ultimately came of it. 4chan isn't one unified force guys, and we can't always achieve the impossible with our autism. Most of the threads are just porn and made up stories now anyway.
@TunedSquid Remember when 4chan doxxed a 16-year old because they found her annoying? Yeah, no, stop acting like 4chan is this perfect bastion of free speech. It can be a downright Nazi Hell-pit if you are in the wrong place, but not all the site is like that. The comparisons between 4chan and Reddit is very similar to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, they are both awful, but you will see the other side as worse, it depends which side of the coin you are on.
@JakeSpacePirate E Lmaooooooo brooooooooo are you seriously implying the soviet union is any better??? Holy shiiiit they were both awful. The analogy isnt even that good as you cant really equate both sites to these two countries. Reddit is bad because discussion isnt allowed. 4chan is honestly better off since at the very least people can speak freely but they can also be hella criticized, bullied, etc but thats just like real life where you can say anything but suffer the social consequences.
@sergeantgamerful did you read the comment? He said that the other is worse depending on how you look at it. I personally think reddit is worse but both are still have an awful and good side depending on where you are. 4 chan is definitely a more fun place with basically no rules while reddit can be good for some in depth conversations if you look in the right place. Again, i don't like reddit, but it'd be foolish and radical to say everything there is abominable
It is I, dr oofers coming back to...I don’t know...come back to say that I’m still looking at this thread? Basically I’m kind of the one who ended up steering this thread into what it is....or at least played a factor in it’s direction. Either way, you can take it as an apology, or take it as a feeling of accomplishment.
You don’t really hear about this much anymore which is interesting because of the massive effect it had on YouTube. Emp Lemon really chooses good topics to make videos on.
@Jolongh Thong i have a liberal dad, and to him, fox news is achilles heel of the right, despite the fact that no legitimate non-neocon right winger actually watches fox news as a main source of info. I think the same applies to watson, just a hunch
@Jolongh Thong Certainly adds to either/both of those. If you have a message you genuinely care about, you don't care how it gets to as many people as possible, you just care that it does. Never was about the supposed message, his reactions are quite telling.
It's an instrumental of "Want you gone" from the Portal 2 soundtrack Emp puts the names of every song he uses in a pastebin link in the descriptions of his videos if you're ever wondering in the future
one thing he was right about: there is a wormhole. the way modern youtube AI is structured, once you pick up on a trend of videos, it'll never let you out. case in point, this very video.... I was watching an opinion video on TF2, and I got recommended this one, because of the fact that it features a short clip from the game.... YES, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT! As you can see, this has nothing to do with TF2 in terms of content. and on top of that, the first video in my recommended feed, as I watch this video, is a video mentioning Leafy, a known TF2 youtuber, .... because of the fact that Leafy VOICES this very video. so, you see how I can end up in a loop, watching either Leafy's videos, or TF2 videos in general, or opinion videos in general, or just videos published by EmpLemon, depending on which alternative I click on. an AI doesn't know who's watching, or who's commenting, or whose device is being used.... only what information that person feeds said AI, through clicks, on potential recommendations presented to them, out of the quintigajillion videos that exist out there, based on the very feeding of information that person provides that AI. that's called feedback. I mean, literal feedback: feeding the result back into the system. THAT is the loop.
37:13 I don't necessarily agree with the idea that YouTube's algorithm unintentionally radicalizes people. On top of that, YouTube actually tends to suppress right-wing content and independent journalists more often than big mainstream news outlets (with the exception of Fox News, the only real big conservative outlet in mainstream media). Regardless of whether you agree with content from channels like Prager (which I personally tend to be either or on depending on the video, the whole of their content isn't THAT egregious even if there are some pretty big stinkers), censorship isn't the answer. Constructive criticism, thorough video analysis and spreading awareness is.
can't have a healthy conversation or argument with your opponent when you've already shut down your opponent.
Confirmation Bias is a more realistic cause of radicalization, not algorithmic shit. You really want to keep people from becoming radicalized? Tell them to go do some hard research on a topic and to pay attention to the arguments of people they both agree and disagree with. If they won't do it themselves or don't have the time, have them find reporters/journalists who will do it for them. Tim Pool is an excellent example of an honest and transparent journalist on this site: he's passionate about what he covers, he's pretty transparent about his own biases, and he tries to report in a pretty nonpartisan fashion, which is how a journalist should always report the news. It shouldn't be the job of the media to tell people what to think, its the job of the reader/viewer to come to their own conclusions based on all the evidence from every side of the discussion.
Conversely, people who are aware of their own political biases are going to be more conscious when they listen to others and will often try to look at many different points of views and discern the pros and cons of those peoples' views (along with their underlying motives) based on their own life experiences, their own research and through critical thinking. Like, i consider myself a classical liberal (so moderate-right in today's American climate) and I'm a pretty big advocate of objectivity in discourse and tend to go against post-modernistic ideals with the exception of media like visual art & music. To me (and i'm sure to many others), post-modernism and subjectivity doesn't have a place in critiquing the quality of a piece of literature, a film, or a game (outside of shit like symbolism and intentional moments where the viewer is meant to infer or read between the lines), nor does it have a place within political discussions. Despite my own personal experiences, ideology and biases, I tend to watch both moderate, farther right and farther left content now and again. It gives me food for thought and combing that sort of information with my own past experiences, beliefs, research, and personal agenda helps further my understanding of who i am, what i stand for/against, and why.
After all, the main purpose for learning about dissenting views is to strengthen your own. And hey, if you find out that there is a legitimate flaw with your world view, then that's also a good thing.
So at the end of the day, there's nothing really wrong with the way YouTube feeds people content as long as the viewers themselves are conscious of their own beliefs and biases. I can't make people do their own research, they have to do it themselves. Add lack of research on top of Marxist shit like Critical Theory, and that's how you get these NPC Puritans and SJWs. Its no different than bible thumpers and skinheads.
Its also worth noting that a lot of liberal influencers, reporters and pundints have a skewed perception of what "far right people" are, given how much farther left the party has become. And as a result, viewers and/or readers of these content creators are being fed a lot of their biases as perceived facts, which is why a lot of liberals have this misconpection that Trump supporters are all violent, evil people and shit like that. In about the span of 10-15 years, the Democratic Party has went from a rather reformist platform to a progressivist (and now revolutionary) one, which is why a lot of more moderate, reformist democrats in America have jumped ship to the Republican Party.
(This isnt to discredit any accurate information they do produce btw, but their bias and ulterior motives are incredibly clear.)
Democratic reporters also have a habit of recirculating and sharing their stories and articles among themselves, which has resulted in a sort of circle jerk phenomena within American Journalism. Youtube journalist Tim Pool tends to reiterate that a lot since he used to work for VICE.
He got me intrigued in the first minutes of his video, and I was starting to agree about the wormhole of the algorithm, but when he was talking too much about brands I was like "Hold up bud this is no a brand thing this is an algorithm shit hold your horses"
The number one most annoying thing is how he misuses his fucKING MICROPHONE YOU DON'T SPEAK INTO THE TOP PLEASE ITS A BLUE YETI IT COULD SOUND SO GOOD PLEASSEEE
Honestly, I'm going with the disgruntled failed YouTuber theory. He gives off that condescending attitude that would suggest he's doing this for revenge because nobody gave enough of a shit about his lousy videos.
No, I don't give a schnap about participating in these shenanigans, not all users of all websites are the same and not all members of any community are the same either.
Anyway uh I just chill there but bully me anyway ig
For me its sad because in the summer of 2017, I first stumbled upon his Nofap blogs. He was this 28 y/o dude who was behind in a lot of areas, so you kinda rooted for him to improve. I also watched Matt D'avella at the time (I think thats how I found Mattswhatitis in the first place), and I used to compare them, in terms of genre, content and style.
I never would have imagined that a year and a half later, he would have made such a mess. Its impressive in its own right, pulling off this massive troll. But dang. I sort of liked the guy. Sad.
I remember when I was a kid watching the first ever primitive 3D modeling/animation cartoons teaching us computer terms like glitch. Weird, guess natural selection with the 80/20 rule applies to boomers as well. But of course that wakes me up to the sad reality of the competitive landscape for myself now. Can never win mate.
Edit: I only say that to the overwhelming amount of comments of older folks calling these changes "glitches".
@OPERATION DOOMSDAY You might not be smart, but you're aware. And far more honest then the Mandela effect would usually dictate. Thank you for your humility.
@Jupiter Reddit is basically that Rick and morty copy pasta personified 4chan are shikumaru from Naruto Smart but too lazy and bored to do anything worthwhile with their lives
@Nuckley i don't know how to explain it but i can't help browse and spam update hoping for a good thread and not the constant shit. i also just like the conversations sometimes, you gotta be there to understand i guess.
@Jupiter While you might have the occasional nutjob on 4chan do something stupid that gets in the news I feel like Reddit's probably the most dangerous site just because of how large it is and how easy it seems for almost the entire site to just basically converge into one massive gestalt entity that proceeds to entirely ruin something, be it memes, people, or entire sites like Youtube in this video.
@H;C basically reddit just tries to go immediately for the big blow while 4chan actually plans out what they'll do and probably does a better job of it?
4chan is level 9000 autists who occasionaly will produce something amazing, and reddit is "to be fair you need to have a very high IQ" fedora tipping guys hunting for karma, I have been on both.
He did an update on the controversy a few weeks after this video was published... "This is a long post, after a year or so, I’ve thought a lot about what happened with my video and some of criticism levied against me. I think wanting to talk about and eradicate that whole wormhole was a good thing, but my strategy of going to advertisers was probably not. Given that it did fuck over a lot of innocent content creators in the process, it was a stupid thing to do. When those people pointed that out to me, I apathetically told them to “go get a job, go apply at Uber / KFC,” and I have to apologize for that. I was selfish because it wasn’t going to affect me monetarily, so I didn’t care that it would affect them monetarily. I accused them of being selfish when in fact I was the one being selfish, and I should’ve listened to them. I’m sorry.
I would have done things differently had I of known that video would go viral, but hindsight is 20/20. When I made that video, I thought it would tops get ~800 views. I had a 15,000 sub channel that was mostly abandoned, I hadn’t posted videos for months and now I was posting something that had nothing to do with anything I’d posted before. When people pointed out that I seemed disingenuous in my video, that I was acting, in a way I was. I felt I had to amplify my anger to convey the feeling I had when I initially discovered how deep that rabbit hole went. I was mad, make no mistake, but I thought in order to get people to watch a boring 15 minute video I needed to convey something that compelled them to stay. I thought if I was lucky I’d get a 10% response on my CTA (call to action), meaning if I told people to go to advertisers, around 80 or so people would. In my mind, those 80 people hitting up Grammerly, GNC, GMC, McDonalds, could probably be enough to get those companies to notice and quietly go to Youtube behind the scenes and get them to do something. That’s how I visualized it playing out in my mind.
It didn’t go that way though, the video went viral, and when I saw that people seemed to feel the same way I did, I got super excited and did follow-up streams to keep the momentum going.
It was in those streams that it became apparent that I hadn’t really thought about what it was I wanted to do or exactly why the strategy I chose was right. A lot of You tubers pointed this out, and as hard as it is to admit, they are right. In particular TheRightOpinion did a good video: What Did Matt Watson Really Tell Us? The Truth Behind The Rabbit Hole | TRO and the guy makes good points.
I was angry, I wanted YouTube to have to admit they fucked up, and I wanted it now. Being hotheaded and impatient are two big issues that I need to work on. I should’ve sat on the information I had and taken some time to think about how to get the situation handled as reasonably as possible.
I feel particularly terrible for channels like Special Books by Special Kids, who had their comments completely disabled in the aftermath of the incident. To them: I’m sorry that my hotheaded-ness affected you so personally, I did what I thought was the right thing, but I didn’t think about how it would affect people like you in the process.
As it all unfolded, I ended up talking to people who helped me clarify what it was I wanted to do, which was to give people a close up view of what goes down on the internet, and to keep their kids off of it. One of the guys in the advertising industry I ended up speaking to told me it’s called ‘media literacy’. Families need to understand the dangers of letting their kids have accounts and post things online, because they can end up being abused. If the kids weren’t online in the first place, this shit wouldn’t be happening.
I do have to say, I think Youtube’s action was pretty impressive, they disabled comments on all those videos, preventing peds from trading contact info and posting links. They also messed with the recommendation sidebar on flagged vids so that whole wormhole got busted up in a pretty good way.
Now, on the rag drama channels and their accusations:
I used to make half-assed comedy sketches where I made fun of various manosphere ideologies like MGTOW, Pickup, and Incel. And if you don’t know what those things are, good.
One clip that got a lot of attention was me driving past a girl walking down the street and asking “Do you want to be in an adult video?”
People took this clip and claimed I was a hypocrite because said girl looks young and here I was spearheading a campaign against child abuse on YouTube.
At the end of day, and this is what many critics pointed out to me, doing run-and-gun prank-esque videos bothering people on the street is an asshole thing to do. And it’s an asshole thing to do because I was harassing people, and when you look at some of the reactions I got, especially in that particular clip, these people are uncomfortable, scared, annoyed etc… At the very least, I should have asked for their permission to use that footage online, and I didn’t. I can guarantee you 90% of them would have said no, and because where I live I don’t HAVE TO ask, I just didn’t care. At the end of the day there is a difference between what you HAVE to do and what you SHOULD do, and I should’ve done the right thing. If could reach out to the people I featured in my videos, I would. I’m sorry for harassing you. If someone did that to me, if two idiots were walking down the street doing some shit and filming my reaction to it, I would tell them to fuck off.
I’d delete those videos if I could but I need to keep them online as receipts because of the slander.
So, with that clip in question, it was a stupid thing to film, because I don’t know who that girl was. I mean, neither does anyone online, but all I can do is take responsibility for my part. That’s it, I should be smarter, learn my lesson, and pay the price for it.
And by pay the price I mean watching the narrative go from “Yo, that guy has a clip of him asking some girl who in our eyes is a kid “Do you want to be in an adult video?”” to “Yo, this guy was driving around town molesting kids in his car.” https://pasteboard.co/J4DDWNF.png
Between that and these channels omitting the fact the clips they were taking were from a comedy channel, it sucks. That is the internet though, I pissed a lot of people off and that kind of shit happens.
That’s it. I could have made a video to cover this, but I don’t make videos anymore. Take care."
Steve Senar2020-07-03 10:43:56 (edited 2020-07-03 10:45:41 )
You know, I thought predators were the worst of it. But yeah, Matt seems worse. I don’t know why attempting to destroy a company which seems to benefit him more than solving the problem is just... I don’t know
i wonderd how do you make a bomb 20 minets leter i leard how mortars worked and then showed ather things that go boom but after i presed the home bouton it all goude back to normal mostly memes
Munat I’m hoping to see that. I recently got into Jerma and watched a lot of his newer videos. Soon I realized he had a huge thing with tf2 some years ago, and it makes me sad that I missed out on all of that. A never ever would be great to learn more about Jermas influence on tf2
@hmmmstve the baffled Yeah I had the exact same kind of experience with Jerma. Found him way after his TF2 days, and was just confused by all the random "drama" between the two. It's a topic I don't think I've ever seen a video on, and it's something only veterans of Jerma even know about, so it'd be neat to see a video by Emp on it.
Oh man, the Soldier clip right at the start hit me in the heart a little bit. And then the rest of the video just fed the sadness and frustration. The content is quality, but the content of the content makes me discontent.
We've reached the decay of human society, past the point or no return. Consume, manipulate, obey, etc etc. Great video Emp. I almost feel sorry for YouTube. ALMOST.
TheJediSonic Aaaah yes and no. There’s groups that are very strict about their policy of keeping everything SFW, and then the other half of the spectrum that’s to say the least illegal and disgusting
49:07 I think they chose Matt because he wasn't getting what he wanted. Growth on YouTube. He was getting mad at the website, the people and the popular YouTubers. Matt wanted to watch the site burn.
Another amazing video! I love how passionate you are and how immaculate the research and execution is on every single one of your videos. My only complaint is that this one contained less shitposting than usual. Keep up the good work!
Like always your videos are amazing. great research, theses's, and editing. They always make me feel more intrigued at the end and satisfied at the same time. Bravo. Also maybe edit out some of your patreons names like at 54:56 where one of the names in slightly questionable
As someone who has always been fascinated by the business of youtube this video clears up many wonders i’ve had being a “viewer” during the adpocalypses and how I can better manage my content and image. 10/10 report
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I commend Keeps for allowing such an amazing advertisement for their product.
Between this and the H3H3 takedown video from JustOrdinaryGamers, I have less faith in the public and myself to appraise the situation and evaluate the legitimacy behind every "informative" and "insightful" video. It is foolish to believe anything you come across without first going through the evidence yourself.
I am not defending Matt but his point that some of the child exploitation channels only cared about money was spot on. Some of those channels did not seem to care about the audience they were attracting and seem to be in on the wormhole.
Honestly to me its apparent that atleast in a more abstract sense Google (and Youtube) are not actually in any sort of competition with any other companies of this scale. I wouldn't be surprised if Google itself wanted this, for whatever reason.
Worst part is, he wasn’t even the first one to talk about it. Other youtubers already had (I think pyro iirc). He just took information on an issue that was already known, and used it as an excuse to bootlick corporations.
For the News Media part, it is relevant to assume they already side with Matt. YouTube being the TV cable killer it is, the media would take every chance to get their ads back
one thing that people seemed to miss at the time is that hurting pedos is not worth destroying the livelyhood of our favourite creators. the pedos were pretty low impact, and didnt practically do anything outside of consuming inocous content but in a manner we didnt like. this seems like the definition of the nose to spite the face
Why would those huge ads companies plan this for 2 years with a secret agent if they could just push the video of the next unstable person posting its crazy theory about YouTube? Which is you @EmpLemon I figured you out. You're the Knight that painted his donkey in white and managed to get millions of views. Very well thought I respect that.
A lot of these theories are a huge stretch. I think he wanted to hurt content creators, and I doubt he would want to specifically hurt right-wing creators given that at this point breadtube was beginning to become popular, so I don't think that he thought he was some proletariat hero. Not caring about things like child labor is also a lot more popular among people that lean right, so if he was particularly left wing I think he would have pointed out the irony. He discovered something on Youtube, decided he wanted to do the thing Pyrocynical did but way out of proportion out of some sense of spite, and did just that. If he was a plant, why would they pick someone with such a... Weird history? They could easily find someone who has a more normal old Youtube channel. Also I haven't seen those old videos, so I can't get a good sense of where he actually leaned politically at the point of the adpocalypse.
27:54 I can also give a testimony about Matt's No Fap channel. His channel was the first I had seen talking about NoFap and it's how I even discovered that movement was a thing in the first place. He posted video's daily talking about his experience. He also understood that deciding to quit jerking off isn't really going to create some girlfriend for you after a year of abstaining from sexual pleasure, so he made made video's where he started socializing. He would do challenge video's like asking for a high five from 5 different girls as a way to get a positive social interaction. I think I remember that he didn't create those challenges himself, but he instead got them from somewhere else, from someone else. It was another forum, or self-help guru that came up with those ideas and Matt was following them and documenting his experiences.
That's about all I remember, I only watched a couple videos of him. Going through my browser history I've found out that it's almost 3 years ago I came across his channel.
I believe I heard that this guy was a part of the mainstream media which would make perfect sense considering YouTube is more interested in mainstream media now.
Nah, screw those conspiracy theories. Matt is an insecure and not very intelligent man who quit YouTube the first time around because he cannot deal with criticism, then somehow stumbled on some kids doing gymnastics tutorials, was disgusted, and decided to make a video about it. A combination of prior experience, the bit of influence he still had from his last attempt, and luck caused it to blow up on Reddit, then he decided to go after advertisers because he does think that's what hurts. He got angry at other YouTubers when they told him to knock it off because he feels like it's a righteous crusade. Companies tried to get some good publicity by pulling ads. YouTube's response was lackluster, because they're terrible at communication, which is why Matt wasn't excited about it. After some backlash, Matt quit, just like the first time around. No conspiracy. The world generally isn't smart nor organized enough for conspiracies. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (Hanlon's razor).
A bit of autistic detective work on my end leads me to this conclusion: Seems to me that Matt is actually a puppet for the elites. His entire purpose was just another wave of Youtube trying to screw over all content creators. In short he was an experiment designed to continue the Sanitization of the platform. Think about his videos that Mock pickup channels and MRAs. His content goes out of it's way to showcase the scum of youtube.
My suggestion is that originally he was supposed to play the part of a Youtube Villain and was setting up as one, HOWEVER his videos didn't take, So we can assume his account was repurposed. 1: Create a controversy with an insane understanding of how to manipulate video algorithms (this tells me he had a media person working with him). It's easier to generate controversy than it is to generate an authentic following and then be a fall guy 2: Become a fall guy in his own campaign. This would explain the account that quietly mirrored his videos. 3: Cover his tracks by claiming to hate social media.
This way the people in charge of him, his bossess would be able to continue a push for sanitization on YT by making the stupid and gullible massess of Plebbit create a mob.
Youtube has demonstrated that it will bluntly denounce and stonewall its own creators if they dont coincide with its agenda. Cowering their tracks in such a manner is uncharacteristic of them. I suspect he was an agent of a youtube competitor.
yo but what if he was just doing it for the heck of it, to fuck with people: -he has had past experiences with making satirical content, and if the guy he pinned was being genuine, his content seemed almost convincing. similarly, for youtubers to consider his previous content notable, they would either be looking to dethrone him, or be fooled themselves -his actions would make somewhat more sense if he was just doing this (which would have to be mostly spontaneously), explaining why he left abruptly, and empathized the efforts of corporations without noting their flaws this of course has some flaws: -he seems to be genuine about wanting to remove ad revenue -i have no idea how this would amuse anyone -there seems to be little reason to go to this length for a joke of this scale and magnitude
EmpLemon I totally agree that this dude is a person who shouldn’t never be trusted. Tbh I have took some sociology and I will say that what Matt Watson is a person who wants attention (plus he’s a egomaniac so yeah he deserve to take some happy pills) plus he wants to create a clique and tbh his clique was a terrible example of how arrogant people are. Plus he thinks YouTube deserves that they lose money (which I will say that shows that he is an 8 year old person mentally, and he is an hypocrite saying that youtubers are greedy no he’s greedy) ROAST (Drop Mic)
NEVER trust people who: A) Use children to bolster their argument. B) Talk about they just want to "Raise awareness." C) Resort the insults the minute their method/perspective/solution is criticized.
I hope YouTube burns to the ground someday lmao. It turned into something disgusting. You gotta dig deep to find good content now. It's kind of a chore now tbh
How can they possibly have a "pedophile" category that they specifically coded to serve child videos to that category and not know how to stop itself from being used like that? If a man sets up a shotgun to go off after a 1 minute timer then stands in front of it specifically to get shot, why is it the shotgun manufacturers fault? Its his fault for creating/coding the situation.
When a coder at youtube literally sits down and types "If pedophile Then suggest children" you cannot say its good-actors at fault. If uploading videos as a young child is against the rules then why are videos not automatically taken down instead of suggested to weirdos?
By definition of sending creepy children videos to pedos, youtube specifically has a group of videos it knows are creepy children videos and a group of people it knows are pedophiles, banning videos with "cp" in the title was a publicity stunt for advertisers and we all know it. --- Conspiracy time. Youtube puts ads on videos with children knowing that pedos watch those videos. They don't do anything about the situation and pretend to do something about it any time and article gets written.
That local news tidbit around 48 minutes is totally false and conspiratorial, yes there are larger corporate owners and yes they exert influence in sharing specific stories and providing copy for national segments, but all local reporting is not coordinated by some mastermind trying to control public opinion. Local journalists work hard to find, pitch and present stories free of any bias but there own that they may or may not filter out.
Fools, Matt's intentions are far beyond your understanding, there is no one Matt, instead one of many fighting soldiers in the ongoing centricide. Cower moderates.
Matt Jarbo (Mundane Matt), Matt Watson, my douche ex-roommate Matt who skipped out on rent, my alcoholic cousin Matt? What is it with Matts? Are Matts the Karens of men?
Okay I have a theory that involves both the leftist conspiracy and industry plant theories. First some important political context. Full disclosure, I am a leftist. Specifically far left, far libertarian, I’m tucked in the bottom corner of the political compass. I’m familiar with leftist discourse and what specifically defines the different ideologies and where they lie in terms of left/right and libertarian/authoritarian. Matt, to me, seems like a liberal, which is around the center of the compass. Liberals, unlike all other leftist theories, believe capitalism is good and that any problems within it are ultimately not structural can be fixed with gradual reform. I believe 100% he orchestrated this whole thing as a dig against reactionaries and right wing content. The capitalistic rhetoric of “hurting their wallets,” and disregard for class struggle plays into it. He believes, naively, that hurting their financial income through ad boycotts will be the best way to moderate the spread of their ideas. I also think he knew about corporate upfront a happening in May, with decisions being decided toward the end of February, and specifically timed the video in hopes of it having a longer lasting impact rather than a quick rebound. Of course, like liberals do, they miss the broader picture. YouTube has too much influence for brands to NOT advertise on, people generally stop caring about boycotts quickly, and reactionaries will always find a way to spread their ideologies as long as capitalism is in place, so if he really wanted to stop the spread of hate, he’d take class struggle into account. But liberals can’t do that, because class struggle and a fondness for capitalism don’t mesh well.
The algorithm works as intended. But it is fundamentally flawed. Content that encourages pedophiles to share links, post timestamps, etc. shouldn't be tolerated or recommended by the algorithm. I am aware that this isn't its purpose, but it definitely should be. YouTube is not /b/. Content on YouTube is highly censored and "toned down". It should have an algorithm that is able to detect content that doesn't belong on the site (I don't think child porn belongs anywhere at all but you can't force websites that are already illegal to adopt such an algorithm, it wouldn't make any sense for the people who run the site (peodphiles)).
Yep, and the split second ginger boy threatened to contact sponsers all the big YouTubers came in to stop him. Money money money. Who cares about pedo videos, right?
really? matt added youtubers talking about demonetization at the end because he was talking about how the exploitative videos are monetized. he was pointing out that youtubers are demonetized for the stupidest, smallest shit but for whatever reason these channels are allowed to make money. he literally SAID IT IN THE VIDEO. i mean, come on. that's such a shitty twist of the narrative. you know what he showed right before the demonetization clips? clips of the exploitative channels BEING MONETIZED.
The main thing is that a good ad in this day and age needs to be targeted to work, which means it can only work if it is displayed to someone who is a potential client. COPPA stipulates that no website should seek to collect data from children, and youtube needed to collect data to show those targeted ads.
Ask any worker if he shall give charities to children (Anytime he earns money), if he says 'Sorry but I can't' then call him a selfish greedy sociopath.
"Indiscriminate: At random or without careful judgement" "Algorithm: Carefully weighs up the data and view trends of billions of videos to provide uses with recommendations" In other words, the opposite of indiscriminate
for your next or one of your future youtube geography videos you should cover 2016/2017 youtube drama (keemstar, commentary channels, the first adpocolypse, diss tracks, rants/exposed videos, etc etc). that period in yt history is hella interesting.
Except people get salty when something dumb happens and they get overly angry at it, not when something that seriously impacts their lifestyle happens. That type of non-salty anger is usually justified.
It’s clear he’s just a progressive liberal; not a leftist. It was maybe luck that companies could capitalize on this last minute. Maybe only communicating slightly afterwards. But his mission is clear; propping up capital conglomerates. Again, very liberal, but not leftist.
Gatokal yeah there’s a massive difference between “liberals” and actual leftists. Liberals tend to be the reactionary, “reddit do your thing” type, whereas most real leftists don’t do that and care more about class consciousness and stuff like that.
@Abandoned channel No, Bernie Sanders supporters aren't all "progressive liberals," they're a coalition of literally anyone that is not a neoliberal conservative. Most of his base just agrees on very important issues, like healthcare and wars. This is beyond partisanship, mind you.
@Nick Name Sanders being against war and for universal healthcare is counteracted with his support for open borders, amnesty for *llgal immigrants (which both hurt the working and middle class) and anti 2nd Amendment, like the other Democrats. He is a Bourgeois hack, has become like the other progressives, and is still partisan for the corporations. Keep in mind that he used to be against open borders.
@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) Didn't he team up with C*inton after he lost? He was a sellout. After he loses, he will backstab his supporters and won't give refunds. I still wanted him to win! Better than Senile Uncle Biden, he be sniffin' little girls hairs and scamming his supporters.
I’m barely even past 10 minutes into the video, and Matt’s plan already seems completely destructive. It’s basically the equivalent of ridding a Wasp’s Nest with napalm bombs and destroyed the entire house in the process; completely needless destruction for something that could’ve easily been resolved with proper logic and patience.
Incompetence can't explain his stubbornness in wanting to drive the advertisers away from the platform, especially after many other youtubers talked to him and explained it to him over and over. There simply HAD to be some malice mixed in there.
Then why did he purposefully lie about not knowing the site and its creators when he was making not too bad content for years? He literally sits there acting like some angry tech-incompetent boomer who just discovered what "all this Youtube fuzz is about" when hes been more succesfull than 90% of all people attempting to get big on this site.
But he could've easily gotten the YouTube money using the tactics he used to get #YouTubeWakeUp to blow up, or at least he could've used the popularity of the campaign to his advantage. Him being a corporate shill doesn't put into account all of his past internet history. I personally think him giving up on YouTube, and trying to stop YouTube to get rid of the alt-right pipeline makes more sense, because the only inconsistencies that seem to be in that theory is the fact he knew he would screw over a ton of leftist channels too, but keep in mind that screwing over alt-right channels wasn't the goal. The goal was getting rid of the YouTube algorithm that he believed was radicalizing people.
This man made people think we were peaceful protesting and then went into the nuclear option, and when people asked him about their jobs he just showed them uber.
@caxolog! I think he was trying to say that things have only gotten worse since 2016? And that everything from that year and the years before it are good? I'm just as confused as you are.
Emp Lemon: Youtube Geographic would be a perfect series to do an episode centering around the first well known Youtube commenter known as PressFartToContinue.
Dr. Oofers I'm not trying to be funny at all. Back when I was a wee lad, I actually chatted with PFTC quite often when he was floating around the comments. Then all of the drama happened and he vanished. While i don't condone his actions, he was the comment section God during YouTube's golden age. A true enigma.
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Guy Noir Sorry, I didn’t know whether it was a joke or not. Also, nice to know you met PFTC, you must’ve been lucky.
@Dr. Oofers All good mate. I never actually met him, we just talked through comments and played some Garry's Mod a few times. And this was before Steam implemented voice chat lol. I dont consider myself lucky in the regard that I interacted with him, but I do consider myself lucky that I remember him. Only OGs remember
If this was an industrial plant, I highly doubt that they would resort to Reddit of all places to get the ball rolling. I just think that he got very very lucky and rolled double sixes, and it blew up on reddit, and pretty much everywhere. There are too many numbers for it to be artificial.
to be fair, it might only need a bit of artificial attention at the beginning, before redditors take over organically. plus, news articles fuel upvotes, way more than upvotes encourage articles. the most dubious part about "industry plant" is his history
10 seconds in and I love this video because of that Down the Rabbit Hole parody. Given the nature of the topic, "Down the Wormhole" would also be a good alternate title.
I just wanna know why I can’t organize playlists alphabetically, or search videos in a playlist, or see what people I’m subscribed to are liking and commenting on
You can search videos in a playlist by simply using ctrl+F - but yeah, that could be a helpful built-in YouTube feature, because using the browser's search option requires scrolling down and loading the whole playlist first
ahmost 22 or shuffle in my music playlist and hear anything beyond the first hundred songs. It worked and then they updated playlists three years ago! >:(
ahmost 22 Do you have a playlist with over 100 videos? What I’ve found is that in these large playlists, when I shuffle it never gives me videos beyond 100. If I start from 101 and click shuffle then it only gives me videos 101-200. I guess it’s not important in the grand scheme of things but it’s annoyed me for years. Are you saying you don’t experience this in such playlists?
@bruh investigator to search videos in a channel, open the channel's page, then look for the magnifying glass icon after "about" in the "home, videos, playlists..." bar.
I remember I used to be a mod on Matt's channel when this whole thing started, the same day he talked to Keemstar. After a couple days, I realised what was really going on with him and just bailed on the whole situation. Lowkey trying to see if you can see any of my comments in this video lol. I was under a different name though
The theory I have heard and that I personally believe. Is that Matt was politically motivated and mad that YouTube was facilitating the “alt right pipeline” Honestly his whole child predator rabbit hole sounded alot like the idea of the alt right pipeline. It had alot of the same logical flaws to.
I'd love to see a Youtube Geographic about how Flash animations of the early 2000's influenced Youtube culture today. Like how everyone from Zero Punctuation to AlternateHistoryHub and countless others are all animating with the same style that started with Madness Combat (memba?).
Love the picture of google's stock, it was already pretty high for its average so Matt caused a noticeable dip as people sold.... and then bought in again the next day when it was lower, and it continued to rise.
i am not going to remember nor care about the whole rigmarole you were talking about, but those spicy investigative techniques are what I watch your videos for.
Welcome to 2020, where the only real journalism goes relatively silent, on small YouTube channels, on underrated channels with only half a million subscribers.
Gosh I wanted to write an article about this but I know there's now way I can't top this video now I've finished it, you've earned a sub.
Picher, Oklahoma is not that out of the ordinary. Plenty of other small American towns have been destroyed as an unintended consequence of human activities (e.g. Centralia, Pennsylvania and Times Beach, Missouri).
I wouldn't really define AVGN as a "youtuber" as he comes from a time where that term didn't even exist, plus he got his start and still mainly used his site cinemassacre for most of his career, only really using youtube to host his videos. I'd say "reviewer" fits him better since that's really the term he helped come to define.
I also really like using insults like weirdo and saying things like "but maybe this means" Y'know leading, and attacking the arguer not the argument. Very solid debate tactics. I like your videos bb, just doing some friendly criticism :3
youtube really wanted me to watch this video. Suggested for weeks so I could watch a man get angry that someone doesn't like youtubers, punctuated midway through with an awful skit
Not a chance he was an industry plant, but he was used by the industry at a fortuitous time, this explains why previous videos outlining these problems never hit the mainstream. Why would advertisers bite that hand that feeds, until that is the hand pulls back. We all have issues with youtube, as you've shown with all the commentary channels exposing youtube in the past, Matt obviously was very involved in watching youtube ideological content and would want to expose it as well. I see him as someone with good intentions and a bone to pick, who got caught up in his 15 minutes of fame when the news agencies saw him as a ripe opportunity. It's funny, it looks like a real world Phantom Thieves situation where the group was surprised by how popular they had gotten with their good intentions, meanwhile it was their own enemy pushing their analytics for an ulterior motive. Matt simply wasn't that bright, and took it out on youtube while advertisers were a bigger issue, who used him for profit, and he just ate out of their hand because when ads pulled out by his command, he got more popular, and he liked the spotlight that he could never before attain on youtube. Of course he disappeared when everyone turned on him, again... kinda like the Phantom Thieves but with less conviction or questioning of his own morals.
He probably works for an ad company. His knowledge aa described in the video reminds of MatPat.
The "disgruntled failed youtuber" makes very little sense once you put all this evidence together and think on it. I see a lot of people going with this theory because it's the "simplistic" when it's the opposite considering everything he DID do.
Ask yourself: Who affects YouTube the most? Who has started all the Adpocalypses?
Spoiler: not a random, small youtuber. It's always been the MSM and those they associate with.
Perhaps he wanted to use this as a further attempt to make it big, but then why disappear? Why RE-appear on Reddit posts that tended to deal with YouTube and advertisements? Why such lackluster leftism that suggests he didn't really care but more like he was playing the part? How convenient he knew the perfect time to start this. (How would one know what time to post? Are all these subreddit mods day birds?) How convenient the mods never took his post down despite clear evidence of rule breaking.
Reddit is leftism hive mind. Unlike companies and the big boys of the MSM (not the journalists) who fake it to fit in... Him being a plant makes the most sense. Everything worked out too well. He reminds me of that gaywonk dude from Vox (Carlos Maza?). Someone who wanted the cake and ice cream but couldn't handled dealing with those who didn't believe him once his 5 mins was done. He no longer had to play along for his money so he ended it. I have no doubt whoever hired him shuffled him around so no one would see his face for a long time.
The best way I could think to find him would be to hack into his Reddit account and gain his IP attached to his account. Then trace it to wherever it goes.
I love you so much Emp. I popped off when I heard the esprit songs in the background, my man knows his George Clanton and the fine ass vapor wave. Great upload as always.
Everything has an agenda behind it. The exceptions to this rule are few and far between. Echo chambers can exist everywhere (comments, twitter feeds, "wormholes," subreddits (has anyone checked r/politics recently?), even entire sites, the "karma" system facilitates this to an incredible extent), and a perfect nonbiased presentation of the facts rarely exists, if at all. To use a partisan issue, it's like watching only Fox, or reading only NYT (or their equivalents). Nobody thinks after reading something that they agree with. Critical thought is dead, if it were even alive to begin with. This is what people need to wake up to.
dude, I have to say that the sound you used to "bleep out" or censor words was really triggering me. I almost didn't fnish the video. A little bit of context, im watching on my desktop and listening through regular computer speakers, color me insane but the bleep sound sounded like static distortion and for a moment I kept thinking my speaker connections werent plugged in correctly. I got up out of bed multiople times just to check.
Lol all jokes aside I enjoyed this story a lot, you did a good job on the video and fuck the bad word sound.
I think the advertiser insider explanation is most likely. He was most likely contacted as his channel was big enough to be pushed to people, and to confuse potential debunkers.
What bothers me the most about this guy is that he went LOOKING. At one point he says something like 'you can't go on (well known adult site) and find this stuff'. Did he go looking? What? He's got issues and is probably projecting.
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At 2:26 you can see that he is in british columbia which, if we can trust this, means that we can find the right Matt Watson 33:40 he was in toronto so he is somewhere in canada
Love the way you censor the fuckwords, still benefits your quest to remain monetized yet still display the crude implications ov the word meanings without auditory linguistics. Godd wormholW
30:12 "To remain a poltergeist in the Digital World" Wait, wait one second, are you telling me that Matt Watson is secretly a Digimon? THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH!
When I see his old content the theory I get is a (adult video) addicted failed YouTuber exposing a pedo ring he was apart of to make youtube creators lose money because he couldn’t get any
It seems to me that Youtube took a stumble, and everyone else suffered, because of a corporate battle. This is just like, the royals in the middle-ages.
So, was this what started the adpocalypse? I knew the adpocalypse was a thing but I never knew how it happened. Was this Matt Watson video what started it?
1:16 - 1:18 Me trying to make that jump across ledges in most 90's sega/ nintendo games. (Beauty and the Beast--Belle's Quest--Those balconies in the west wing level)
I can see him as just the guy in the office that already had an account, or he was to work on this project and just to used his account for some reason.
I like, how this series isn't recommended to people, but videos for kids are. This just shows that YouTube is promoting kid's content, instead of this cool and small documentaries. (Sorry for bad English btw, I am from Soviet Russia)
You can tell matt was bullshitting and didnt know what he was saying or talking about just by how he spoke. He spoke like he was making it up as he went and was nervous.
Can we just be honest here? I don't know if it's been brought up before, but the most likely theory about Matt's reasoning behind all of this is because his YouTube Channel sucked ass and this is his way of lashing out about it? I"m pretty sure someone brought this up (I haven't finished the video yet), but think about it. Jealousy is one mean motherfucker, and with the likes of the Killstream, Drama alert, Metokur, Sargon, the Paul Brohters, ect. Matt saw a podium that he would never reach. So he decided to try and knock everyone else off of it. Pathetic. Just pathetic.
sicc video bro fr, first you hit me with the World Peace theme at 13:22, then George Clanton at 47:06. Great editing and interesting the whole time. Subbed
MattsWhatItIs as a false flag? That's intriguing! Finding a run-of-the-mill YT'er with cringey content, put the bug in their ear about the evils of YT and let them think they'll become the crusader the people were(n't) asking for, and then when the backlash comes they stand back and watch the torch-bearing villagers burn him to the ground while the puppetmaster gets out clean? Very elaborate, indeed diabolical -- but possible. Through the whole thing, it really felt like Matt was working with info that seemed like it was handed to him
So..hmmmm.... really interesting video (not although the way through it yet, but have already seen the brilliant Nerd City full length section) BUT...around the 35 min mark - is the choice of a cover of Rock & Roll Pt 2 an intentional one? I mean, given the artist who recorded the original and what he become infamous for later in this career?
If someone says something that pisses you off, ask yourself if you being pissed off isn't really fucking convenient to someone with or jockeying for money or political power. From you and over you.
Am I the only one who finds it weird how the first half of the video is spent explaining how there is no rabbithole and youtube just serves whatever content is similar to the one you watch, yet the first guest he invites starts his segment by talking about how youtube has a "proven" far-right radicalization rabbithole?
They never said that. The video just said that some people fear there is a right-wing youtube rabbit hole. Emp lemon nor nerd city stated there was one. Besides the "study" those claims are based on don't really hold up to academic standards or peer review. It doesn't explain by what mechanism the viewer's beliefs are radicalized. It just draws tenuous connections that ignore the important context that, when considered, contradicts alleged connections between popular creators and the far right. They never proved the connection.
@Adam yeah, and some creators on there were completely unrelated to the far right. Jeff holiday, who was in there, does videos against pseudoscience. He's promoted channels by jews and transwoman multiple times, which as far as I understand, aren't groups anyone in the far right would willingly associate themselves with.
I don't think it's too far of a stretch to think that anyone watching anti-extreme left or IDW videos would get recommended right wing content, does that mean that somehow all these people are affiliated with each other and are working together to radicalise youth, probably not, it's just the algorithm, I don't think it's any more likely than the algorithm gradually recommending more lefty content. I don't see the problem with calling it a rabbithole, much like a Wikipedia rabbithole. The problem with Matt Wattson's video is implying(or stating) that YouTube is directly responsible for (facilitating) the rabbithole when they obviously weren't.
Just because there is no dedicated CP wormhole doesn't mean there are no wormholes period.
The recommendation system on YouTube does push people towards related content, regardless of context. So if a lot of veiwers watch right wing content after a video, that videos recommendations will include more right wing content so veiwers will stay on the site longer.
A guess a better way to look at it is YouTube creates a personal wormhole for everybody to try and keep them watching anything. So when those wormholes lead to right wing content, and most political violence is overwhelmingly right wing, some consider it a potential problem.
Not YT's fault for kids siging up but WHEN REPORTED they should be taken off the platform. Especially when being sexually inappropriate. ALL SOCIAL media needs to step up. What kid watches TV? Barely any! They're all online. Reporting barely does anything. Youtube and Facebook does allow animal abuse. It's all a MESS and needs a upgrade in security
"Matt" for sure got one thing right, Youtube could put "13 yr olds stripping un-censored" on the trending page and Youtubers would still crush their mom's hands in a crank vice for even a chance to keep their monetization.... for ALOT of them its ALL about the money..... dont care about others over monetiztion, deff dont care about kid's online safety or following actual laws against advertising to children over monetization and ultimately dont even care about Youtube just look how alot of even semi-large youtubers talk to youtube support on twitter if ANYTHING gets even accidentally messed up on their channel, they turn into spoiled 5 year olds that think they are owed something an talk to youtube support like literal garbage (as if they own their page an just allow youtube to maintain it)... until they get banned or demonetized then its all tears and woah-is-me and "i didnt deserve this, i dont bother ANYBODY.. YOUTUBE, I DONT UNDERSTAND😫😫"... and yet if Youtube died tomorrow and the new "thing" was an app where you live stream hours worth of face-times with your Grandma their would be thousands of youtubers with dead Gmas calling elderly female actresses 3-5 times a day to get in on the wave... they would do taste test reviews for jars of dirt if it got them a chance of going viral.... only on Youtube does a guy become public enemy No. 1 for trying to watch out for the online safety of literal children..... no one could ever prove he had ulterior motives i think he was a guy with ultimately pure motives and 0 time in the public light under his belt that all of the sudden was being talked about/watched by EVERYONE and he made some mistakes...but he noticed an issue he felt needed to have more attention brought apon it so he did....and now whether u like it or not he made Youtube arguably a MUCH safer place for children....
Important correction: kik is not defunct. Its closure was announced in September last year but then they got bailed out one month later. Fact check your shit, my man
these videos take a long time to make, and fact checking such a small detail that couldve just been pulled out of the video and nothing wouldve changed is just time waisting
would you consider this a form of cancel culture? not this video, but the response matt insited? it seems like the response he was attempting to insight was to cancel the profitability of youtube-or at least, trying to significantly hinder it.
38:19 thats only half the truth, the full truth is because of the correlation between pewdiepie and nazis. pewdiepie isnt even edgy in the slightest. its because of massive main stream media bias and controversy labeling him as one, and since the controversy involved pewdiepie and nazis, that will lead pewdiepie to nazis eventually. not because of the viewer but because of popular correlations in the past.
If I had to be arranging such a thing as an advertiser, I'll pay multiple people to try do that, and the second one of them succeed, Ill remove all other videos... Maybe if we had upload history of that time we could find a pattern... A different approach would be to use bots/close relatives, if he have any family connection to any advertiser that another huge falg
I know the music is credited, but aside from looking through the order of the songs, it's a little hard to know which song is which, so does anyone have timestamps to help anyone know which song is which?
>takes stance on subject >Is one of the people negatively effected by the spread of the subject
I don't actually think that's why you made the video, but it doesn't look good when you're one of the people possibly losing money. It is absolutely true most of the time controlling their income is the only way to effect large groups of people and rules, status quo etc. in the capitalist system.. which is good, it gives power to the masses (if they can become aware for five seconds and not just do what's easiest and takes the least effort and self reflection) but don't try to pretend it isn't the only real reason why a brand or company will do something most of the time. Youtube, backed by Google has a Uuge pocket book, they can lose a little ( not entirely related but Monopoly s are illegal lol). PS. Geet a job, srsly.
And saying him asking for upvotes for attention to his fans like it's a conspiracy when everyone on YouTube knows you gotta smash that like button and subscribe I've never heard of this before today, so I don't care about this guy, just wonky expose
It seems ridiculous to suggest that someone concerned with the alt right pipeline on YouTube (which is a legit thing) would go after pedophiles and not, you know, the thing that he wanted gone. I think he was a washed up YouTuber angry with the site.
i mean, theres a lot more people who agree with the far right than people that will publicly say they think pedophiles are ok, so you wanna get the one most people will agree with
After watching this twice, i actually sure that i used to watch his nofap video. I never subscribe to him tho. What a surprise that guy cause this shitstorm
Yeah, it does. It’s true, though. Companies do jack shit about anything, regardless of how important or not the thing is, until they think it’ll make sales better or worse. Usually it’s hard to motivate people to “vote with their wallet,” but he did it with the banner of fighting predation. Too bad he applied it in the worst possible situation, Jesus.
It's absurd how pretty much all of Emp's new uploads since 2019 are copyright noticed one way or the other, that or Emp deactivates the Offline Download option...
- Keemstar 34:56, in the act of milking it for attention
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That Guy2020-03-29 15:52:22 (edited 2020-03-30 13:41:28 )
To be fair to Keemstar he helped the case against Matt by being able to contact YouTube about how they were tackling pedo comments on YouTube and he also had a right to extensively cover Matt as Matt made multiple livestreams to rally people against YouTube.
JakeSpacePirate E name any other person who has the amount of connections and resources to people inside YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, etc while being able to avoid being blackballed. Keen/Drama Alert is a massive resource for people who can’t in any regular situation bring attention to their situation. So much so that even people who have directly criticized Keem and DA go on (jacksfilms v Jinx being the biggest example I can think of). I’ve loved/love creators like TB, Etika, and Pyro, people Keem has shit on in the past but for better or for worse he’s not going away, and his connections make him useful.
@DKing Oh he is going away, and so are you, and so am I, it's all a matter of time, and I will be remembered a lot more fondly. Keem is a psycho. Can't wait for his fans to come after me for criticizing him.
a failed content creator with nothing to lose. He couldn't get monetized bc his content was edgy, so he decided that no one else can get monetized either. Corporations took full advantage of his little campaign and the rest is history.
I propose a fifth alternative, and while this incredibly far fetched, I still feel that there is a likelihood that Matt made all of this with the intention of protecting children, however he was simply too stubborn or unknowing to truly realise the consequences.
I feel that this could be a failed movement, not one with anterior motive.
This one man single-handedly changed Youtube where a hundred thousand couldn't, and the result was C-List, worthless Youtubers screeching out because now they have to find a real job, and AAA-List Youtubers crying out because they lost 20 dollars a month.
single handedly changed youtube? advertisers came back, and the coppa shit was coming anyways so any "change" this man did was going to happen not too long later
@Bl1tz lol I know your comment might be ironic, but its probably because the US justifies attacking the middle east by saying that Israel is "our greatest ally." Of course the US could always find some way to justify attacking Venezuela too honestly.
27:30 - This doesn't sound right. Even Keemstar said it was comedy videos but that he thought it was weird that a guy who was attacking numerous people on twitter for "questionable comments directed at minors" would make jokes like this directed at minors. Matt at the time wasn't just doing the youtube thing, he was screeching at numerous youtube creators saying they themselves were the P word for making sketchy jokes.
No one thought it was genuine. The fact that even the gnome lord openly said it wasn't leads me to believe this was either just a mistake on your part due to faulty memory or very misplaced altruism.
Why did you use the mainstream media reporting on Biden’s dementia as an example of their low standards? I think it’s a serious topic. Other than that the video was amazing, keep it up.
33:19 Ironically enough, Garry Glitter who sung Rock and Roll part 2 was a convicted pedophile. Dunno if Emp knew this and added it for that reason, or just felt like making a Joker reference
I feel like I’m in a really small majority that actually watched his old content before any of this lol if anyone got any questions about my gauge of his personality before all this ask me
Which of the three hypotheses presented in the video do you think was the reasoning behind Matt's crusade? One of them, two of them, all of them, none of them?
Flint Glockwood Good question that has different answers depending on two factors: if his old content was genuine or not. What I watched specifically were his nofap videos because I was trying to start it myself and wanted somebody’s story to watch to help me get through it. These videos were intended to show him combatting the overwhelming amount of anxiety he had socially even speaking to somebody, and just a deep look at porn addiction and the side effects of it in general. In these videos, he mentioned all types of fetishes he had with a straight face and with no layers of irony or sense of humor to it. He also approached women and simply asked them the time or something and had the goal of improving his social capability. It almost felt like he was trying very hard to be honest to himself and not for an audience to see, like he was making the videos for himself as a motivator for him to keep improving. If all of this was simply a 2 year long facade then I could believe any of emp’s hypothesis most likely leaning towards the corporate shill argument since I do agree that it is weird that he has no public record asides from the videos on his channel and his reddit account. However, when I first saw the video myself when it came out, it really just felt like a normal video from him and didn’t feel forced at all. What I’m saying is that him in that video didn’t feel out of character for the man I’d been watching. He would always take the extreme paths to get things done in his old content too. Like nofap for example, in order for him to quit porn he completely stopped masturbating all together. In order to get over social fears, he forced himself into dozens of social scenarios where he was visibly uncomfortable. The approach he took with this didn’t look much different to me upon initial viewing. In summary, I’d say that if it was all manufactured for years and he is a corporate shill and the like, then he had me and his small audience absolutely fooled. If the exposé was genuine, then it fit his previously seen character just fine and didn’t seem very outlandish at all. Let me know if I need to follow up to make anything I said more coherent, I’m a bit drunk atm lmao
Very interesting. Do you think with what you've said so far, if he was truly genuine, that perhaps he actually didn't have any malice behind his actions and was just taking an extreme approach to his goal? And your comment was coherent dont worry about it haha.
main problem with theory about Matt Watson being leftist activist is that he cooperated with corporations even though no leftist activist would do that
He's probably a Sorosite or someone that believes in using the massive resources of a corporation or private foundation to spread far left ideologies. That's essentially what kind of leftist Barack Obama is.
@WEIRDSTUFF It seems so because I looked up a 1 hour version of the song and at around the 3:20 mark, there's the first half of the bit being played on the video at the 1:50 mark. Edit: On this one you can find the bit: https://youtu.be/Cw2-RMjFr7A
9:28 um there's a sexually suggestive thumbnail video with more 600k views which is more than 400k, the main point is right but the way it's shown was wrong in saying "they fail to get even close"
Funny how he didn't mention how accounts which talk about so called "far right" content now get booted left right and center for no actual reason whilst the rootless, internationalist vids from the other side still stay up and garner views. Two examples being James Allsup and Cultured Thug. Hypocrisy much?
I agree that a lot of people who circle the "Anti-SJW wormhole" of YouTube are not some of the greatest human beings. But maybe that type of content becomes so popular on YouTube because of the Liberal Blanket that hangs heavily upon all of main stream media. People get tired of woke, liberal, and overly progressive content being shoved down their throats in all of mainstream media, so they congregate around or create their own media here on YouTube.
Thing is, there's facial detection software that could more than likely pluck a stray picture of Matt off the internet; whether it be a friend's social media or an old account he forgot about, it's difficult to keep your face offline.
Once a thread or two has been picked up, you'll find answers.
Serious talk, your channel and content just keeps getting better and better. The way you've evolved your online presence has been a sight to behold, and I'm loving the deep dives into YouTube as well as the "Never Ever" series. Keep up the great work!
you really know how to keep your viewers glued to their screen. I was really bored today. I wasn't in a mood of watching a 1 hour long video but once I clicked on the video I only clicked off after the video ended. Thanks for this amazing video. :)
Emp I love Your content, and What You do. I'd like to adress that in Your "meybe conspiracy" segment You have made a very human brain type mistake of grouping evidences for him being either a shill, SJW or a Joker. It is entirely possible that he was all. People are not a one dimentional lines of correlating political views, abilities, previous experiences, actions and mental dedication. All of this mix and match. Finding and fitting perfect pieces leaves You with many different half finished puzzles, where there should be just one. I simply believe he was all of them. a disgrunteled guy with a bit politically autistic views who got or made an offer to help out in the rat race against YouTube.
Honestly, it would really make perfect sense if he was a failed YouTuber and also an Industry Plant, the fact that he had previous experience on the platform could have made him more suitable for the job, or maybe him having past experiences could have been used as a cover up to give him more credibility, no would suspect him of being hired if he already had a previous YouTube channel. Either way, this is shining the light, and it's important that people keep talking about it.
Matt disappearing seems to put a hole in the theory of him only wanting relevance. But doing the disappearing act if anything has only generated even more interest in him, and made him notorious as that guy who tried to singlehandedly bring down an entire platform.
Even in the end of days, when nothing is certain, the only constant is that emp lemon will still be here supplying quality content. Stay healthy friend; the world needs you.
All those years of making YouTube content, and Matt never learned to back away from the fucking microphone to avoid earraping listeners on every "P" sound.
So basically, combination of reddit, mainstream media, YouTube's algorithm, and corporations (Basically the four horsemen of the apocalypse for YouTube) disrupted the platform even further because of one failed comedian turned breadtube grifter/potential corporate plant... Good video
I mean, the YT algorithm can totally spiral someone into heavy political propaganda. It happened to me. When an algorithm is designed specifically to get you more of the thing you like, it will obviously do the same to topics like political spheres.
Your next video should be on the vanoss crew and how that has changed so much. I don’t know if you do drama but that crew was one of the biggest on YouTube for a bit and have since changed a whole bunch with a lot of drama and a good few leaving. It’s an interesting but sad rabbit hole if you read about it.
Matt was clearly an incredibly misguided brocialist who has no idea how to act. His attempts to boycott are hilariously bad, and he continued bootlicking. Breadtube loves these class reductionist types.
Youtube's lack of communication is correct. Please save Tweeterman287's YouTube Monetization by letting YouTube know. He's been left unanswered by them as to why he's ineligible to monetize videos for 10 years. He's also a Youtube Legend too for being there for more than 13 years and was known at that time as American Ashens.
15:44 I don't understand why you would expect him to be as happy about a response from YouTube in the form of a half assed tweet than a company announcing that they're pulling their ads. 43:55 Also, saying the nyt article created a controversy out of thin air doesn't make sense, as they're just pointing out the things PewDiePie has done that make him seem anitsemetic. Overall this seems like a far fetched theory. Though I don't think Watson was a good person, he was smart to alert the advertisers as that would have been the only way to motivate youtube to take action. Also we have no real proof that he has corporate connections.
Dang man I watched your youtube poops as a kid and just saw one of your videos in my recommended and holy shit I guess that influenced me because I like tf2 and have liked it for a while and I love Pink Floyd, this is a weird world
Emperorlemon ghetto are ironically one of the smartest guys I've ever heard talk. The reason I think that is his because YouTube is your life. One thing's for sure if I would have talked to you about football and strategy in football I could probably annihilate you in an argument if you were to ever Heat about football. I think you are the embodiment of what's left of YouTube soul. Keep up the amazing work you magnificent bastard.
Interesting research. However, the YouTube algorithm isn't indiscriminate. Or rather, the algorithm's capabilities are not indiscriminately created or enforced, to say nothing of their manual activities.
It appears this is what eventually led to the COPPA lawsuit by making legislators (or their corporate puppeteers) realize this was an angle they could come at YouTube (Alphabet Inc) /the advertisers/the creators. I'm unsure though.
I say it's a mixture of the first 2 theories. He was making PUA/alpha parody videos and wasn't very successful at it. His anger turned towards youtube mixing in with his political ferver. "Clearly youtube supports the Right-wing and were throttling my success". He comes in looking for blood and cowards out once he gets a hit in. All three theories require stupidity at some level because what matt did was stupid. I think it's more believable that one pissed ginger came up with a half-assed plan than a corporate conspiracy employing some schmuck to stir this up so they have leverage against youtube. It's such a dumb idea that by now we'd have people coming out talking about it.
Since YouTube is owned by Google and Google is such a monopoly they can just make the rules. Cant Google just seriously destroy a companies profit if they wanted to? So Idk why advertisers can even stand a chance in trying to make a get cheaper advertising.
Yeah, its pretty clear he is not left leaning by how little substancial critique there is about companies or at least acknowledge any kind of exploitation
@Sam Higgins I think they see Youtube as mostly right-wing. While platforms like Reddit are more populated by leftists. So he would, at least in his mind hurt more right-wingers then lefties.
Sam Higgins Well intersectional “woke” progressivism is much more mainstream and centred within political western left then any talk of class related stuff these days.
The “identity politics” crowd you talk off all identify as being staunchly left wing, communist, socialist, Marxist or whatever so yeah they are very much apart of the left and are much more representative of what the left is at this point then any old school socialist.
I swear the doctor spiral character is exactly like doctor joints from a video at like 1000 views called "JOYCE CARNIVAL" my buddy made 4 or 5 years ago.
It’s probably wrong but is it possible that all the theory’s could be true? The failed youtuber theory explains his old weird content, the Bernie pipeline explains the leftist reddit post and anger against right wing channels. Finally the corporations gave him the resources he needed to pull of this stunt.
So let’s put it together, Matt starts his YouTube channel where he post satirical content, he has a little success but not enough to make him a big youtuber. He try’s making a second Chanel but still receives no success.
Then there’s the Bernie pipeline theory. He has leftist views and is unhappy with how youtube seems to send people down a pipeline to right wing channels. He wants to hurts these channels by hitting their revenue through means of causing an ad fiasco but he doesn’t act just yet because he knows it will also hurt left wing channels.
Finally the corporate plant theory (This one is probably the hardest to theorize on because we don’t know how he has ties to these corporations). So YouTube is now forcing advertisers to pay the bill for checking to see if ads are running on advert friendly videos. They don’t like it so they devise a plan to get YouTube to lower its prices. Somehow Matt has ties to these companies and somehow he becomes a crucial part of their plan to lower the cost of adverts. So now the corporations have their inside man to be the face of their operation. They also provide him with the resources to make the video blow up.
So let’s sum it up. An unsuccessful youtuber is disgruntled that he saw no success and is spiteful towards all the others who did see success. He is also a leftist who discovers that YouTube is pipelining viewers towards right wing channels and is angry at this and perhaps also at the fact that many of these channels are more successful than him so he decides to attack their revenue but doesn’t act because he knows leftist channels will be affected. Finally the corporations want cheaper ads on YouTube so they devise their plan to use Matt(who is somehow connected to them), a man who has a mostly blank internet paper trail and who knows lots about the about the site. He also has his own motivations throwing a wrench into the idea of a single solid theory forming. They have the influence to pull strings so Matt’s video succeeds and to Matt the pros now outweigh the con of leftist channels being hurt by an ad hit. Matt has his vengeance against successful creators, hurts right wing channels and the corporations have cheaper ad rates.
El Cacheton2020-04-03 17:34:46 (edited 2020-04-03 17:35:56 )
If we make 4chan care we could find this dude lol remember they studied the earths rotation and the stars to find a flag pole to fuck with shia labeouf and some power lines in the middle of nowhere to find some isis recruitment camp I think then gave the information to the Russian government and the camp got bombed. I may be miss inform on the camp thing but I do know 4chan was fucking with Shia and the pole thing.
The fact that you're using Pedobear as a symbol for pedophiles and not a symbol for prevention of pedophilia angers me. Do your research on meme symbols smh.
40:10 Maybe it's just me and I could be wrong about this, but I don't recall Keemstar being part of the Anti-SJW, Alt-Right, and Man-o-sphere communities
The thing is that Anti-SJW and Alt-Right aren't the same thing. The Alt-Right is basically the right-wing equivalent to the SJW. I'm pretty sure Keemstar is centrist (like many of the YouTubers mentioned in this video).
Yeah, that's sort of the point. You start with edgy humor directed within the youtube community (collabs, drama, content cop), then the algorithm sends you to edgy humor at the expense of outsiders (cringe comps), then serious analysis and discussion of the people in these videos (the periphery of anti-SJW), and finally a web of political influencers. It's no one's fault--I hope--just kind of how the system works.
Seeing that Matt was a filthy redditor, I think his motivations could be a combination of all 3: A failed youtuber that wanted to take down YT because of the RW pipeline, so he got woke and shilled to corporations to achieve this end.
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Youtubes leadership is bad. Despite being bad they can also be good at times. However youtube is different from the people who run it. Its as much about the content creators and the people who view it. Actually in the video he mentions the monetization hack hurt youtube, not the company but the real people involved.
Meanwhile, when you visit Keemstar's channel and type "Jake Paul" or "Logan Paul" you can see AT LEAST two dozen videos on the same topic.
Also, I think Keem would respond to this by saying: "What did you say about me? Wow, I have files on top of files ready to drop. You think you can swing at me? I'll swing right back at cha, you're already over, buddy" xD
Youtube monetization was a mistake in the first place. I remember when nobody made money. The site was organic. Youtube can run ads all they want, but giving creators money directly is the single worst problem with the platform. Patreon was an inevitable conclusion, and could have completely supplanted the partner program. One of the biggest issues with the content of videos, those aimed at children, is a direct result of this. Children aren't going to be providing patreon bux, which completely cuts out the feedback loop of toy channels exploding in viewership and would also do a lot to reduce clickbait.
The problem with ad revenue sums up as "it's not voluntary", i.e. the viewer has no control over the money they generate.
I've literally heard people in the modern day say shit along the lines of "Well you can't just expect Youtubers to not make money". Holy shit, the mentalities that are bred over a short 10 years. I remember first being introduced to this website back in 2005 and everything was so much different, much in the way Emp has lamented in prior videos. People made content because they wanted to create and share their creative works. It was a work of passion with the only fulfillment coming from amusing internet plebs. Sure, there was a lot of shit, but everything was unique. Trying to find new, creative shit would always turn up results.
But monetization happened and what followed was everyone trying to replicate the risk vs. reward meta game. Everyone says, does, and makes the same shit nowadays because there's a proven formula to success. And god fucking damn, does it get obnoxious hearing "MAKE SURE TO HIT LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE GUYS" every time I watch a video.
@Miselus FF + uBlock Origin + uMatrix + PiHole on an OpenWRT router + Debian as my desktop OS. You don't gotta tell me, coach. But keep spreading the good word to those who don't know.
Styxhexenhammer one of the biggest people on bitchute who averages around 60k views on a video on Youtube gets 4000 views and below on his bitchute exclusive content. So only about 6% of his average viewing audience is actually leaving YT to go watch exclusive content you can only see there. Youtube (google) has a monopoly on online videos and while the off-shoots are better then nothing they are not the solution.
@Falinks I just find it funny that leftists will say things like, "we're winning, we're replacing them" when talking to each other and to the general public, but when talking to right-wingers, will say things like, "the Great Replacement is a crazy nazi conspiracy theory."
All you have to do to see that the west is becoming less white is take a look at the demographics throughout the years and white birth-rate of any western nation (except Poland and Hungary because those nations are doing the right thing). For example, ethnic Brits are now a minority in London, the capital of England. The United Nations literally refers to it as "Replacement migration."
@Hung Jury SR4 capital cities always have great racial diversity. They recieve the most immigrants because there are opportunities there. I can guarantee you that the amount of immigrants have barely increased in Cornwall or the Highlands.
kimcen He was basically wiped off the face of youtube after all of his channels got banned days apart from each other for “promoting” an incel, iirc. Nobody knows the real reasons why he was banned but he’s got some of his channel restored now but it’s just not the same.
I like how you sneakily used the main topic of the video and snuck in a anti-Biden news article and called it bad journalism, doubt you'd do the same if it were about Trump... Obviously not the reason for the video, but it was still a bastardly think to do.
The fact that you attack the man and not the point proves fallacy. The very fallacy you cite as the title of this video. The fact is what he talks about is very real and reproducible. These communities still exist on youtube meaning your arguments here are invalid. If you worked for any other company and they facilitated something shady like human trafficking and got shut down for that, you would be out of the job, but your income is irrelevant to the problem being handled. The same applies to youtube and the content creators on it. If this caused the shut down of youtube, that doesn't matter because at the end of the day this content is on youtube and nearly nothing has been done since they announced they would do something about it three years ago. Not to mention the adpocolypse that came after this allowed youtube to implement policies that have nothing to do with this, meaning it's not this guy you should be pointing fingers at it's youtube. The fact that saying fuck can get you demonetized has nothing to do with these pedophilia rings and yet it's still a policy youtube implemented. The fact that demonetized videos will still be running ads and the problem shown in matts video, proves this was merely a ploy for youtube to line it's own pockets, and this right here is their scapegoat. The problem mentioned here hasn't been handled by youtube and yet youtube is still stealing from it's creators, that shows how irresponsible this platform is. You're simply playing into what they want. Try to show less fallacy next time in your arguments, his video isn't lying so why does it matter who he is outside of youtube? It doesn't. You can recreate these steps and you can find the same comments he found today. Youtube has the information and knowledge and code to prevent these videos from taking root in this platform and yet we still see no change.
Really good video with some great information. One of the most perplexing part of it to me is that with pretty much no preexisting audience he was able to live stream and convince people to get on reddit to upvote him. It feels like it has to be more than just a failed youtuber.
Your videos are some of the most cleanly and fluidly edited videos I’ve seen on the platform! Very pleasing to watch, straightforward about what you want to show us, and very informative and entertaining. You deserve all the praise you get and more!
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Mark Russi2020-04-01 04:49:55 (edited 2020-04-01 04:51:37 )
Your videos are amazing. Im blown away by the detail and perfection of tone in your documentary style videos. Bravo.
I never really understood him. To me he always seemed like a very passionate and well-meaning man trying to help, but his enthusiasm and direction were skewed as if he wouldn’t be aware of the effect on other content creators. This video really helped me see more of what’s going on and also the weird inconsistencies.
this was super entertaining and brought more light to a controversy that I thought I knew. Overall very good video, but that's what you can expect when you're watching emplemon
I was personally demonetized later that month as were many other creators. The situation indeed does line up with him being a corporate shill.
Why would they select someone who had previous history with an alias? Simple, so that people wouldn't be able to pinpoint that he was a plant. Matt Watson was like this guy's only alias, and he decided to burn it for corporate cash.
So... the fellow was a dbag, but this video shows me that the man had a pretty masterful understanding and knowledge of how to spin a lot of plates. Multiple site cultures and mechanics and aspects of media. My knee-jerk assumptions (because this is what we all do about people with opinions and positions opposed to our own) were that he was incompetent and lucky.
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Joseph Swayze2020-03-31 18:18:54 (edited 2020-03-31 18:22:27 )
in the end, matt won... and saw no point in continuing a youtube channel (mattswhatitis)
he was a failed drama youtuber,(his old channel) and gave up on youtube but wanted to hit the youtubers he resented hard in the wallet... and he knew just how to do it
If the theory where he is left leaning but trying to own the righties is true, it always baffles me how people of a certain political leaning, despite clear biases to their leaning from most social media websites, think that these social media websites are pandering to the other side.
Him being active in ChapoTrapHouse is about as much evidence as you need to realize he isn't genuine in his appeal, the latter two theories seem the most likely.
If your theory about him being a corporate plant is correct. Then his controversial "old" content could have just been a way of distracting people from the truth. It adds some deniability.
I am less inclined to believe the theory of him being a corporate plant. Because they could have picked anyone but him. Teh thing that derailed him was his shady past. Companies are good about background checks they should have just went with someone else
Curious about your opinions on Tom Scott's video on copyright law and Game Theory Matt Pat's video on his efforts to build a better youtube environment for creators to work in.
Despite his aggressive accusations at other youtubers for 'being greedy' and 'worrying about their money', he sure seems to be concerned with the ramifications these huge multi-media conglomerates might potentially face following the ads on their videos. HMMMMMM
He just strikes me as some asshole who got way more attention than he bargained for. Why did he delete his videos? Because he didn't want his weird past in the limelight, especially if it undermined what he was trying to accomplish. Why did he lie about incompetency when it came to disabling monetization? Because he wanted to make a bunch of money without hurting his good samaritan image. Why did he celebrate enthusiastically when advertisers pulled out, but not when YouTube responded? Because not only does a response from YouTube undermine his narrative that they don't care, but if they actually fix it, his time in the limelight is over. Why did he disappear? Because he didn't like having thousands of people digging into his past, uncovering embarrassing stuff he's done, or maybe things blew up way more than he expected and he didn't like having millions of eyes on him, so he pulled the plug. Why didn't media outlets try to interview him? Because he's an unknown, and they only really wanted to use him and his controversy to harm their competitor (YouTube). Or maybe they all reached out to him, but he declined, and they didn't want to undermine his credibility by saying he was refusing interviews. Why didn't he weigh in on the SOPA stuff? He dropped off of the face of the planet for a reason. If he stopped wanting the attention then, why would he now? Meanwhile, advertisers simply saw an opportunity to get a better deal, and they took it.
He could be a corporate shill or whatever, but everything makes sense if you assume everyone was a rational actor, and that he was just some asshole who hated pedophiles and/or wanted attention, but couldn't handle it. Believe what you want, but I'll take Occam's razor.
I'm torn, on one hand the corporate plant makes such a good story. It kind of sounds like the Manchurian candidate of youtube, if not as clean and thrilling of a story. On the other hand history tells us that says sometimes you just need to be the right man at the right place. Of course there is the possibility of a little of column A and a little of column B. Failed youtuber becomes a plant for some advertiser and it blows up bigger then he imagined, and just panicked a disappeared before he blew his cover? Who knows, what we can learn is that youtube is once again horribly run with little transparency.
Completely irrelevant to the video itself, but nice integration of "Want You Gone" from Portal. This aside, this video is amazing, thanks for helping spread the truth.
He clearly started all that bs to get attention but at the same time he actively worked against the youtubers he desperately wanted to be like. I don't understand the dude at all.
He didn't care about the children. He cared about clout. As opposed to seeking out and destroying those sub-humans himself, he decided to cause a fucking ad-pocalypse by reporting these to the fucking companies.
i consciously avoid child, loli, shota, cub and ephebeo-related content online so my fbi agent doesn't think i'm developing pedophilia.. not that i ever could, orientation is immutable and my agent already knows all too well what my fetish is <3
4:10 Holy crud, Leafy made a video discussing about child exploitation. That I and his other viewers didn't know about that. Likely the algorithm buried this video even further than his usual videos because of this heavy topic.
@Dr. Oofers I already did watched it almost around the time when this video was uploaded. I admit, I didn't think Leafy was the type to talk about serious topics like that
I doubt you'll see this comment but the song credits you have for Miami are wrong. It's Tristan Leonidas who did Miami. Discarded is not a name he goes by anymore and you won't be able to find much of his stuff under that name.
If they can’t use the monetization but truly care about there arguments then they will sacrifice anything for it and can use other sources of income. His campaign only hurt small creators as usual, because nuking everyone saves everyone right?
first half: geniunely good response to the movement, and how financially we have no power over youtube second half: you watch pewdiepie and you become a nazi. I'm sorry, it's just how the wormhole works.
I NEVER,EVER trust people who are in love with "protect the kids". I'm not saying there isn't genuine ppl, but when they act all mad and start describing how they would torture rapist or nuke an entire site, it's RED FLAG.
Did you get downtherabbitholes permission to use that intro? I just feel its waaaay to similar. Would like to be of sound mind that he is okay with it.
Uhmm, maybe "Matt", was everythingy all along. A plant, a failed, youtuber, a swj, a resentful guy. etc etc. Like all of those in universities and entretainment, like marvel comics and their "inexistent" agenda..
I know EmpLemon is pretty right wing so I can kind of understand the prolonged focus on the leftist part, but still it seemed a bit dubious itself especially since the conclusion is that it probably wasn't the true motive anyway.
Really appreciate that your buddy mentionned Three Arrows, he's probably one of the best, if not the best politcal youtuber I know of. He does far more research than any other political youtuber i've ever seen, wether they're from the right or left.
YouTube removed every video I've tried to watch from you in my feeds subscription and home feed I am just now only seeing this video 3 days later after you upload it I hate YouTube
TL;DW - Mattiswhatitis, the controversial beginner, is a scumbag who potentially exploited a pressing issue for karma and views. If so, fuck people like this, who'd rather exploit an ongoing issue for their own personal gain. The conclusion is that Matt Watson is an alias of an unknown content creator, who, though not confirmed what his full intentions were, has fallen off the face of the earth. One thing Matt exposed is YouTube's inability to handle a massive and damaging controversy across the web with effective communication. So, if there is anything to thank Matt for, it would be that. Otherwise, no one knows who or what Mattiswhatitis is really all about.
Insightful stuff Emperor....thanks! (Miss your YTP days too :D)
@Phoebe Aurum Yeah, but still a bit silly to get a guy like that on the video, especially when they're into the whole alternative influence network shit
I keep seeing ads for Tik Tok clones on phone games where underage girls perform lude dances with obvious predatory implications (comments would show up in the video asking her age and shit). But nope, YouTube bad, right guys?
The ending does bring about a very valid question however, WHOMSTVE tf speaks on behalf of Youtube? Its almost a literal evolving library with no upkeeep or librarian. And yet, its being run by someone who prbably doesnt have any idea how severe that is. Fucking boomer i swear
Context: Matt Watson (MattsWhatItIs) made a video about how YouTube's algorithm attracts child predators to content of children: the so-called "wormhole". But due to weird behaviour from Matt, some of the YouTube community don't believe Matt's true intention is just to get rid of child predators.
Theories TL;DW: Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue (33:18): Matt is angry at YouTube and all its content producers. Matt wants to be famous, but his attempts to do so fail. His campaign to get advertisers to pull their ads because of pedos on the platform was one such attempt, and it succeeded. (This theory has many inconsistencies)
The Bernie Pipeline (36:59): Matt is angry about right-wing content on YouTube and the "pipeline" making the YouTube algorithm endorse right-wing content. Matt wanted to attack right-wing and anti-SJW YouTubers by starting an adpocalypse.
Matt Watson is an Industry Plant (42:25): Matt is secretly someone seeking to get advertisers their money back through economics and shit (watch at the timestamp, I can't explain it well). The adpocalypse he would cause would be beneficial to advertisers.
(Please watch the whole video. I oversimplified many things.)
Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't a mix of "screw 'bigots'" and being a corporate shill. Likely he's not too much into the Breadtube rabbithole, hence why he never really brought up class, but still holds sympathies for these sorts of people.
He likely made a good chunk of change in exchange for disappearing.
37:30 this whole article about YouTube's right wing rabbit whole was debunked since 2018: https://youtu.be/S4hq5uVsb5k In summary, if we have to make any claim about this theory, the majority of recommendations and traffic on the website is to the broad left side , not the right side. This could be just another plot from the past, for companies to gain another leverage over Youtube in negotiations, according to Emp's theory.
YouTube is so big that unless it's specifically set/programmed to look out for something (Like "Preventing another Trump situation") It's algorithm has to be unbiased. Sure it's set to seek and destroy wrongthink but anything else can slide on by (Again Monkey Abuse community) YouTube can't think of everything/every permutation there's a point where even they get surprised
Every shred of information about this Matt guy and his biases points to him (at the very least) being close friends with a lot of people in the leftist news media bubble - likely in inner city New York/Portland/Seattle/Los Angeles. I can definitely see someone in such circles going along with a plan like this in return for a big payout from above.
so does YouTube puts ads on demonetized videos, they say that they demonetized them because they are not "ad friendly" but if they put ads on them YouTube makes money and the people that make the vids dont. has this just turned into a loophole for youtube to get the full 100 percent leaving the creator with nothing i dont know if im right about this but i feel like i might be on to something.
Well, I’d imagine that with the current state of society being what it is, stress may cause premature hair loss. That said, who knows what age his primary audience is. Maybe it’s 55+ for some reason?
The beginning section with "Down The Spiral" looks exactly like the show "Down The Rabbit Hole" by Fredrik Knudsen
. Complete with the same music and same font.
Sent my gf some of your videos and she loves/appreciates the work and effort put into them. Keep it up, what you do is amazing and entertaining as f**k.
Youtube Geographic is seriously the best series I've ever watched in or outside of Youtube. I love your editing so much and I can't click quick enough when I see your videos. Keep up the good job man, I love it!
Holy shit this was a good movie. The 4 personas of Matt and capping it all off with greater commentary about how Youtube is fucking everything up for itself and its creators, I mean Bravo
He doesn't need to have been a plant the entire time. It's not impossible for him to have just met some suit a con and arranged for massive pay-off to do the thing.
Also, I'm not so sure about your logic of his success being evidence of duplicity. It's entirely possible that he got more traction than other youtubers BECAUSE he targeted advertisers. Yes that's a bad strategy that harms creators of all stripes more than it does YT itself, but it is effective at getting the attention of other media (which is also funded by advertisers). Those traditional media outlets have incentive to hype the youtube boycott because it gives them leverage over those same advertisers, without them needing to be directly in on some grander plot.
I’m about 2/3rds in the video, but I feel like this guy was working for YouTube to screw small creators by giving them an excuse to cut paying them. It makes a ton of unfortunate sense to me.
49:39 Just want to point out that it took almost 100 years before the public found out about the Lusitania, so I can easily believe a large group of people can keep quiet about this.
35:12 and 41:16 I theorized that Matt's vendetta is not out jealousy, it's that he got sick and disillusioned of the state and culture of Youtube along with its users then thought "screw everyone on this site! I'm gonna ruin everyone's parties. from the CEO to the unregistered visitors"
The second theory makes the most sense. He knew all the lingo right wingers use, especially “Muh [insert here]”, frequents a subreddit which has endorsed harming YouTube for giving right wingers a voice, and went after specific youtubers that are seen as “problematic” in his live-streams.
In my opinion, Internet Responsibility should have the same value as Driving, which cannot just be given around to people and needs at least adequate knowledge to be consented to. Adults shouldn't just hand kids this responsibility when they're not fully aware of what they're getting themselves into. Also, It annoys me how most parents don't know YouTube kids exist and instead let them use the actual app/site. And now we gotta adjust "for the kids" in a site which is not usually "for the kids".
I don't care how evil and unlikable he was. How he did it and the fact that it worked and that he probably made a lot of money doing it is pretty cool. It's like a bank robbery movie: The protagonist is a piece of crap but it's still cool
My memory may be failing me, and this is a great video, but isn’t the Youtube Geographic supposed to be a factual retelling rather than an argumentative? Not that big of a deal, but I’d like some yt history lessons some time.
I love the Garbodors music in the background during some parts of the video. Really neat.
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Charlie 2020-03-30 01:01:06 (edited 2020-03-30 01:03:17 )
I feel like i've seen this video recommended to me before like a month ago+ but I realize that nope, i just confused it for another one of EmpLemon's amazing videos! 19:35 other big yters vids who talked about topic yee
I’ve never even heard of this guy and I really doubt this controversy surrounding Matt (not pedos on youtube in general) is comparable to the logan paul suicide forest stuff
Having seen some real proper dark shit using tor i can kind of see where he was coming from, theirs forum's for pedo's that specifically hunt down the kind of videos he was talking about and pack them together into categorical "sets" of a dozen or so similar videos for distribution. Haven spoken with a number of these people they just seem deranged, they make it out like finding these videos is a full time job for them and often bragged about finding specific "rare" videos.
Its pretty sick and has apparently been going on for long before any of the controversy's and is probably still going on. I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole again to find out.
this is a very bold accusation, but im just some random guy on youtube comments so i will say it: i feel like this guy wanted a reason to go down that wormhole.
I clicked on this video knowing full well what it was But when the "down the rabbit hole" ambiance played my mind went "Oh boy cant wait for this 'Down the Rabbit Hole' video"
When you search Wikipedia for the word "pariah"... there's no written definition, just a picture of Matt Whatitis.
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Ben Kersten2020-03-31 06:26:04 (edited 2020-03-31 06:32:46 )
43:10 There aint no Atlas kid. Never was. Maybe Matt was a combination of the theories, burnt out youtuber who became a shill who discuised himaelf as a proletaret hero.
I think the most obvious answer is the most likely. He had an emotional reaction to finding what he thought to be a pedophile ring, which led to him trying to stop it in an unproductive and poorly thought-out way while also wanting to feel like a part of a greater movement. The Youtube platform just happened to be the scapegoat to direct his rage at since he couldn't figure out how to combat individual users (or overlooked that as a viable option). This developed into an unhealthy obsession with his goal and he became shortsighted and stubborn since he was already in too deep on his crusade. Bascicaly just emotion coupled with ignorance.
Idk about this dude and his motivations but YouTube rabbit holes are definitely real. You can find actual hardcore pornography that has remained uploaded for months if you happen to slip into the right lanes in the algorithm. They are just as easy to slip out of so copy the links as soon as you see them for proof if you do happen to come across one. They DO NOT stay in your watched history. Having seen this video I wish I did that for the case I found or at the very least got a screenshot.
The name of the video was “orang” and it showed up in the search results after watching a long string of esoteric “meme man” style videos. It was listed as having been uploaded for 3 months at the time I spotted it and only stayed accessible for one search. Honestly it’s the perfect system for smuggling content as it’s perfectly plausibly deniable. Only a few people are ever exposed to them at any one time and YouTube has their asses legally covered.
He's correct that Youtube should do more, though. Youtube/Google are the owners and creators of some of the most advanced algorithms and machine learning programs on the internet. Youtube will detect if anything you post belongs to Viacom and slam you almost immediately, assuming it didn't detect the precious copy right infringement the moment you hit upload. If your neighbor is playing a song owned by some big record lable and the audio frequency is captured by your speakers at such a low level that only a dog could hear it, you're screwed: Youtube knows what you've done. Chatroulette created a program that could identify penises so that you weren't getting a fat neckbeard jacking it every time you tried to talk with someone, but Google can't spend two seconds making a program that would block all of these videos kids upload of themselves half naked during a slumber party? The problem has been known about since 2009 when /b/ figured out you could generate Cheese Pizza by simply filtering Youtube search results by most recently uploaded and, bam, a bunch of 8 year olds showing themselves off "playing dressup". I think they genuinely just don't care and are more concerned with banning the ever increasing genre of Orwellian crime-think commonly labeled in academia as racism and sexism than banning this soft-core pornography.
Also, pro-tip to parents: Teach you kid not to upload their face, name, or address to ANYTHING on the internet. Not to Facebook, not to Youtube, not to the nice man who wants to give you candy, none of it. Christ, we knew this in the 90's, the hell is wrong with people today?
Joseph Lisowski2020-03-30 00:59:20 (edited 2020-03-30 01:06:48 )
I think I have my own thoery who Matt is and that he is trying to stop freelacers thriveing on the platform. There’s a workers union that exist in calafronia that hates freelacers and attempts to unionized many freelacers and company’s as possible “remember this is calafronia were google is located” in fact this union is so powerful it lobbied a Person into the calfronia state government to make freelancers according in her own words “employees because being a freelancer is not a real job” I think this guy ether was with this workers union or more likely was not with them but had a similar agenda to them and when it was clear his plan wasn’t working he left the internet all together. Tho that is just my theory. In other words he’s hates freelacers
11:35: check the like-dislike ratio, I am no youtuber, but when you do a followup video, and you have that happening after 3M+ views initially, seems kinda sketchy...
The theory states that he was hired by these companies to make a big scene so they had an excuse to pull ads. So if he was unsuccessful in drawing this attention they probably wouldn’t pay him.
Let's be real, this dude was just salty and bitter about not being able to make money off of youtube and not becoming the next big YouTuber, so he ruined it for everyone else. Pretty glaringly obvious!
@LJK401 >Right >When "Liberals Get the bullet too" is an Antifa (Lefty) expression Ah yes from the "Stalin was right wing" school of never admitting fault
LJK401 fascism is not the same as dictatorship. You can be a right wing dictator or a left wing dictator. Fascist dictators are only right though. Also show me where Stalin supported Capitalism
LJK401 authoritarianism is what I mean by dictatorship. Stalin was authoritarian, Hitler was Authoritarian, but Stalin was a socialist while Hitler was a capitalist. See how that works? If you take just a basic look at a political compass, I think you’ll notice that the LEFT side of the compass is socialism while the RIGHT side is capitalism, yet things can be authoritarian or anarchist for EITHER side. These concepts are UP and DOWN, they aren’t sided. Now, if you’re talking about the American political parties, I’ll have you know that Democrats are more socialist and are also more authoritarian (raising taxes) than republicans who are more capitalist and anti authoritarian (less taxes)
LJK401 can you kindly cite any source that proves Stalin was a capitalist because I just read through Stalin’s Wikipedia page and he seemed pretty anti-capitalist to me. Burden of proof falls on you because I guarantee you that most people feel he’s a socialist. Also, while I understand that the political compass is flawed, the whole concept of left vs right derived from it. If you don’t want to talk about directional politics then let’s not. Just talk about American political parties and ideologies in a vacuum. I’m 18 but I don’t think that’s really reason to write off this argument.
JayBe fascism isn’t only right, it’s quite Center economically. Some on the left, some on the right. I would put classic fascism in totalitarian Center
Common communist philosophy is that cooperations (Or the bourgeoisie for those literate folks) only can be disheartened by the removal of their economic support, this is mostly prevalent in communist spaces, but it's a general philosophy to all leftists. When people encourage advertisers to pull from Fox News for example, the intention is that this is the only way to hurt the cooperation (Whether it works or not is debatable). The problem comes with YouTube and other video platforms, who owns that content? Strong arguments can be given for both sides, but, economically, the creator owns more of the content than the cooperation. This would be considered a "Semi-Democratic System", where people control a majority (But not a large majority) of the economic output, any good communist would notice the flaw in this plan and would be against it.
This is such an odd coincidence. Why? I got bored today and sorted the front page of reddit by "top of all time". Scrolling down, i found Matts video. I clicked, i watched, and was disgusted. I scrolled down to the comments, and was strangely surprised by the amount of comments from "1 day ago", even though the video came out almost a year ago. And most of these comments were shitting on Matt. I was confused as shit as to why they were shitting on someone doing a great thing, and someone recommended me to your video. For the first portion of your video, i was disgusted as to why you werent focused on the good he was doing. Then as you went deeper into the rabbit hole, and started pointing out inconsistencies in his logic, it becomes apparent he had some other motive for making the video. And the only reason i found this video, was because i just so happened to find his video, the day after you uploaded this, explaining his bullshit. Had i found his video 2 days ago, i would have thought he was a great guy, not understanding all the other youtubers hate twoard him.
Shyguymask is French and a pretty popular gaming channel. Not the 'OMG' but as a guy who does challenges, puts on white text, and doesn't seem greedy. Watch his Q&A video.
okay so here's what you need to do, youtubers: Form. A. Union. A peaceable assembly to redress grievances COLLECTIVELY. This union would have the resources to address Youtube management from a position of STRENGTH. REACH OUT TO MATPAT. The Game Theorists / Film Theory kid? Yeah. Him. He's making GREAT strides in this direction.
I think he was just butthurt because his shitty excuse for satire wasn't giving him any notoriety. The video was probably a last ditch effort to gain some attention so he could ride the high. He probably wasn't a corporate plant, but as you said, they would have been ecstatic to exploit the controversy since they badmouth YouTube whenever they get the chance.
I went through a fairly pathedic "self help" phase a couple years back and I actually remember running into Matt's channel. I couldn't bring myself to watch for more than five minutes. It was just some chubby manchild screaming to a camera and recording himself walking through public parks. I never thought he would amount to anything. If only I knew.
My stance on the "issue" of children being exposed to dangerous users on the internet was always that it was a non issue. I think that if someone decides to put themselves out on the internet, then they're assuming the risks of doing so, regardless of their age. If you're a girl who goes on a streaming site, and you show your titties for money, then you shouldn't be surprised when a bunch of creepy desperate guys start messaging you and threatening to hack your computer or burn your house down if you don't send them nudes. Actions have consequences, it's how everything works in the natural world. The thing that's great about the Internet is that it's, in it's purest form, natural: it's wild west. Theoretically if you're smart with how you operate, then you should be able to avoid ending up in a bad spot: it's a game of survival. It's my opinion is that kids who cheat the system, and put themselves out there regardless of warnings, are assuming the risks and understand the consequences; and that's true for every site. If you're a six year old going onto Team Fortress 2 and start talking shit and screaming the N word, then you should know that some guy might be streaming and your complete breakdown might be shown live to hundreds of people for their amusement. Child predators are awful people, I get that, but the fact of the matter is that they exist, and henceforth, exist on the internet. Kids who go on the internet should assume the risk that they may be targeted by child predators, I don't think that warrants banning children because I think that is some pussy shit. Let the kids learn some god damn agency and independence. Society is so fucking sanitary, so fucking clean and safe, so dishonest and plastic. The closest thing to the natural dangers of the real natural world is the internet. I don't think I've seen people grow in maturity as quickly as I've seen people on the internet grow in maturity. I genuinely think that there are 13 year olds that exist today who, thanks to the internet, have more wisdom and life experience than any 50 year old. I think that the internet is only the beginning of what is the natural evolution of humanity, and in robbing children of the internet, you are doing more harm to humanity than you can ever imagine. Someday, and I say this earnestly, I think we should all be absorbed into the internet and become one with it. Immortalized in a cyber web. I am against any and all regulation of the internet, because I think that letting the internet evolve, and whatever it's natural evolution turns humanity into, is only the proper result. Never before in history have so many consciences across the world been so close to one another: like a collective of thinking machines forming into a greater pool of logic, we are now truly exposed to all of our imperfections and vices. Through the internet, we see humanity's darkest sides, as well as it's greatest sides. Which one you choose to see is up to you, but becoming too focused on one or the other can be dangerous. If you wish to see something on the internet, you will inevitably find it, and you'll find more and more of it: and even if you fight to make it go away temporarily, the reality is that the issue still exists outside of the internet. Just because the woman killing her cat, and showed it on Facebook was arrested, doesn't mean that people no longer abuse animals. We think that just because we can't see an issue, that it doesn't exist, but humanities evils know no bounds. That being said, our charitability and kindness are also limitless, and thanks to the internet: it's easier to help people than ever before. Just like a spaghetti western: the endless sands of a desert are home to cannibals and rapists, but also heroes with strong moral codes and big irons on their hip. You cannot control the nature of that, but you can decide, as an individual, which one you want to be.
Basically we need to educate and communicate with each other more. I've been saying this for years and that discription fits the internet perfectly! Only issue is that it'll never replace the intamacy of a face to face converstaion...
I'll admit straight up now that I am one the people you are describing in your post, albiet somewhat loosely, but still. I was very ignorant of how dangerous the internet could be, was exposed to a lot of stuff and questioned a lot of moral things I might not have.
Long story short, I've finally come to terms with all of it, I'm better now over all. Though something I had to learn was that dispite all I've been through, it might have been something nessesary. Like if I had no internet access, I might have had to learn everything the same way in real life, except it would have took longer and been harder. In laymans terms I had to realize that the internet wasn't to blame (for the most part) but this whole situation was my fault, I wasn't being responsible enough and I didn't have the self-awareness to realize it (which I wasn't even aware of THAT cause I tend to be self-aware of how I am in real life and blindly assumed the same for online interactions.).
Case in point talk to people you genuinely trust before you go on a mindless adventure online for several years. Even if you end up thinking that your parents are wrong about everything or some crap, at least listen to what they tell you, after all they are the only ones who will still (hopefully) be there for you when everyone else abandons you if your life doesn't play out right (well they should anyways)
I'll wrap this up. Basically what I'm saying is that we should aim for the truth above all else, protect your kids sure, but only do so so that they can become strong, that's more important than being safe. (Like what's the point of being safe if you don't do anything with that safety?)
I'm sorry but I WILL never ever sacrifice my sisters because they're 'dumb'. Yes, every action has a consequence but kids are easily manipulated and disobey laws because that's how their minds work! They can't survive by their own, there's a reason why they need parents. Kids are innocent. Dumb? Sure. Their fault? No, that's how any childs' minds work.
I mainly agree, but keep in mind all the Mommy Vloggers or channels like Daddy Of Five who basically broadcast every moment of their kids' lives online without consent. If a kid chooses to go online that's one thing, but I've deadass seen moms put pictures on social media of their kids in the bathtub or taking a shit.
@birthdayGnat Here is my opinion on how to fix this now, this is from a person who spent most of their time online as a kid using Pbskids.org and Nickjr.com and only used Yt for Creatures and Petz lets plays and never have messed with social media besides one Facebook account my mom gave me so that way I could talk to my family members more (I lived really faraway from them) so I might not fully understand your problems but here's my two cents; Just supervise them have only be on kid friendly sites that you know are safe like the sites I motion above and there also this thing my Dad did the monitor of the computer was a Tv that was in the living room so if I wanted to watch something bad I wouldn't be label to not that I ever wanted to watch Porn or anything like that like ever and as time goes and when you think their trust worthy you can let them have more and more freedom.
Daga Qtawaru the question is when will you have your kids? I think the generation that is 7 and younger will be mostly children with constant access to the internet and we have yet to see what results this will have on them in their teens and young adult lives. If you can wait 10 more years to have kids, you may feel very differently about the state of social media and how it affects the growing generation.
@Dared Rogers yup. Parenting is hard, but shit like this isn't. Putting the family computer in a communal space and not giving kids smartphones until they're teens is pretty basic.
Ngl that ending gave me huge whiplash. The industry plant thing came absolutely out of nowhere and went from a retrospective into baseless speculation and conspiracy.
@Zevaron XZ It could have something to do with the title. Most Ben Shapiro videos are titled something like, "Ben DEMOLISHES LEFT WING with FACTS and LOGIC." But I don't know how important words in the title are in terms of recommendations.
@Zevaron XZ I usually get the reverse, i.e. left wing content recommended on right wing videos. YouTube statistics show that the algorithm recommends left wing content far more to centrists and right wingers than vice versa, and left wing content gets far more recommendations in general than centrist or right wing content, the latter of which gets recommended the least.
I watch center to right wing content and I get left wing stuff recommended. It’s about the similarities in topics and naming, I least that’s what I’ve found.
Maybe it could be that both left and right wing videos would be marked as "political", and in some cases, it's enough for the algorithm to link them despite other differences.
@Daniel yehoshua by right wing, what do you mean? It might depend on what you watch, because if it's stuff like blackpidgeonspeaks then I doubt you'd get left wing recommendations
I mean, that's why people are The Quartering or one angry gamer are a part of the pipeline. they bridge the gap between normal content (gaming, in this case) and reactionary channels (like crowder, Sargon, or Shapiro)
@Nick Name If you watch youtubers like black pigeon, then you're probably gonna get quite a few response videos from leftist youtubers at some point just due to similarity of topics. Same goes for right wings responding to leftists.
I seem to get a strange mix of always having some random videos from a left wing channel in my recommended but get auto played onto Nigel Farage while never watching any breadtube.
@Spencer Easton about what? It's just strange to have them recommended even though they're not really interesting (though HBomberGuy is quite entertaining)
The question really is, how far down the spiral do you want to go?
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Doctor Jones2020-03-30 16:25:51 (edited 2020-03-30 16:27:15 )
I see zero value in coming to the defense of youtube, despite all of the asinine demonization hits, copyright rules and censorship dogshit that plagues the site
Anyone else notice how many children were in his recommended? only two clicks, yes but i could do that and my recommended would not be filled with children
The Nerd City cameo of this video is just a small portion of the testimony he sent to me. You can watch the full video here for great insight on the controversy as it happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWsp7jPTpk
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EmpLemon just make YouTube a non child site kids shouldn’t be on the internet anyway
58 likestheory: mat knew what he was doing and may possibly holds a grudge (worse than most people) and my have tried to damage the site and community due to a immense amount of greed (ironic) and a crave for fame.
14 likesoh wait
Thanks for exposing ledditors once again lad
16 likesKik still exists dude
3 likesBased
3 likesoh no
1 likei was not immune to the propaganda
hi
0 likesI actually followed Matts What It Is before his allegations. He was originally a nofap/self improvement channel that was mostly about supporting people trying to break their porn addiction. He deleted most of it and then made the allegations against youtube and it seemed like he was mostly just doing for the quick fame. Kind of sad to see really because his original videos were very real and it seemed like he genuinely wanted to better himself and help people along the way.
7 likesEmpLemon Thanks Bud This is an awesome video, keep up the good vids also I do love the HungryBox Smash video that was great as well
1 likeHey ... uh... that intro looks like down the rabbit hole
2 likesIts funny to think that the same people that made quality content for free on the platform will now make hour long videos to gain sympathy for them not making enough money. Its like e-girls complaining that their onlyfans account isn't making enough money because shit is free elsewhere. The YouTuber is a profiteer, very very few make original content and nearly everyone else follows with a worse/more accessible version.
4 likesImagine making a multi-part video series about making merch and expecting people to believe you are "just demonstrating how to make good merch has a YouTuber."
"HaHa let me vaguely support actually censored people like Sam Hyde, E;R while making 10's of videos about my ad revenue, aren't I so heroic? Anyway lets all donate to the ADL, my Patreon, and Trees. While your at it buy my merch, and support my shitty mobile game sponsor."
8:01 "Whisky Bar" covered by The Doors in the background?
2 likes@containercore Re the plant aspect, they often don't know that they are plants. They are just people with a history that Comcast, Blackrock etc invest time in to use as the face of thier "good cause". Essentially it's like the Satananic Panic re music. Use kids to push an agenda.
8 likesCarlos Maza probably didn't know he was going to usher in a wave of censorship that will keep the boot on the throat of the LGTB community and left leaning political commentators when it comes to flourishing on YOUTUBE, outside a handpicked few from the LGTB vapid section that your see trending CONSTANTLY.. tokens.
Do you think Carlos even knew that NBC bought controling shares in Vox? And suddenly Vox and subsidiaries start putting out anti YouTuber content targeting ads? Do you think Carlos knows that NBC were losing market share to Pewdiepie, Crowder etc so they had to use the gay community to leverage NBC all over YouTube? Try searching any news and see how often NBC pops up vs 4 years ago. Carlos had a silver spoon in his mouth and was perfect fodder for Comcast to use to maintain the narrative to make sure the gov did not break up a nailed on monopoly. Google has to play ball with donors and lobbyists like Comcast so they don't get broken up as a monoply either.
Amazing video by the way. Essentially it's corporate espionage from donors and lobbyists. Illegal. It's not just about NBC etc losing ad revenue where they want people to brofist Fallon instead of Pewds. Or wanting to leverage for cheaper ads on Google. It's about donors keeping eyeballs on them to control a narriative to essentially print money for Wall Street, Gov Contractors, big pharma etc etc.
You're a saint emp, I've been watching for the better half of a decade, all the way back to when you were making your more popular ytps, and your content has not changed in quality. Thank you.
5 likesDid I hear some Jpegmafia or am I just insane
1 likeEmpLemon I’m so excited you finally uploaded another YouTube geographic!
0 likesBased MDE music
0 likesEmpLemon I mean I just want to say here that if I had the option to spark controversy just to get popular to be honest I would. Imagine doing YouTube for so long and not getting any popularity that you just hate almost everybody else who is popular. I mean I always contact more popular people to see if they would hang out with me or do a collaboration or live stream but unfortunately that never works because they’re too greedy for their subscribers to give a shit about people below them. YouTube is like the movie The Platform. There are those above and there are those below the ones above will not listen the ones below are lesser than you. An infinite paradox of people treating each other like shit when was the last time somebody with 100 subscribers that never grew after years of video making get a genuine shout out from somebody popular or famous? Not in a long time especially if they make edgy content.
0 likesI also want to state that if somebody did give me a shout out I would not earn a single fucking penny I would not turn on my ad revenue for a very long time because I don’t really care about money that much sure if I had 10000 subs I’d do it but that’s not the point. I don’t mean to get too personal but me being popular and seeing people want to watch me and enjoy the videos I make psychologically would probably make me feel like I have some sort of worth....
0 likesSome Youtube employees reuploaded those videos it's the only explanation
1 likeI thought your next video will be on idubbbz simping
1 likeI am so glad you made another episode of this~
0 likesEmpLemon nice try with trying to defend idubbbz; the defense was terrible
2 likesCoincidence that you uploaded this in February, maybe to have higher AD revenue?!?!‽‽
0 likesYour videos are the cream of the crop of youtube videos
0 likesDo you listen to king gizzard
0 likesWhy is the intro to this video a rip off of frederik knudsens
0 likesI think the most interesting part of the whole video was you saying you like Wasp Removals, Cool Fact
0 likesI don't know if anyone told you yet but leafy's back his new channel is leafyishere2, and he hasn't changed at all.
0 likesyou seem like a cool dude my dude. can I be your friend?
1 likeThis is a stupid question, but when you pretended to be Matt and cat call some one was that some one you knew that you asked to play a role in your video, or was it some random person on the streets? If it is the ladder, is that person okay? Sorry to bother you about this.
1 likeEmpLemon Any thoughts on Leafy temporarily coming back?
2 likesGreat music this episode 🤙
0 likes+1 like for the Michael Rosen 'click'
0 likesSo.. you gonna make a part 2 of this because i feel as if theres alot more thats missing. I dont know what it is but i know theres more evidence out there. Somewere. Maybey journalist schools, advertising laws and tactics, theres gotta be somthing that can further the wormhole.
1 likeEmpLemon paying his dues.
1 likeThank you SIMPson god~
0 likesi cant help but make a comparison of the channel Colossal is Crazy.
0 likesHow tf did they give you a show??? Congrats!!!!
1 likeWow- not expected from youtube to allow this
0 likes@GhostGun Nice covid nineteen profile pic! Lol
1 like@Heel-Personified Adjacent Stalker Why thank you
0 likes@GhostGun No problem. :)
0 likesBruh ur standard of reporting literally supersedes major media outlets made up of hundreds of people wtf the world is fucked
1 likehey emplemon, you said youtube wasnt your job
1 likenow it is
so.................. you know what YTP you have to make now...
You heard of a channel called psa stitch if not you should watch his content.
1 likeWow you gotta snitch commenting on a snitch
0 likesThis video is misleading. Matt was not responsible & is right about this. He did the right thing as a part of freedom of speech. Did you know that YouTube founder & Susan was born in Russia during the soviet union? Why you think YouTube is red like communism? There whole system is a communist state like demonetization. Here are the points that you are wrong & why i dont like this video...…4:59 - The algorithm does not recommend more videos but the same repetitive ones all over again, even the ones you watched before. People do not abuse the framework of the algorithm, again why you think its called YouTube? You sound like the same sjw shills defending the sites7:52 - No its not, you must look up about how the vatican planned coppa. 8:26 - Most of youtubers like pewdiepie are shills. All they sell are fucking t-shirts & want profit from there fake bots. They are mainstream, Get it MAINSTREAM?9:15 - Nope, the reason they did not get the attention of this is because they did not sell themselves as shills to YouTube. I like how you support the same cucks idubbz & Ethan simping each other10:36: Matt is right, the 2017 demonetization should have shown everyone to go get a real job 12:18 - 12:46 - Bro, you just contradicted your whole video & show why YouTube is not a great place to be. Not seeing & rejecting this truth is an example of utopia. Boycott has historically worked in person rather by technology, by not accepting this, your for the support of government stealing our money smh12:52 - That's because YouTube is owned by government as a tool for surveillance state, just like the communist do. Stop misleading your subs20:50 - Etika committed suicide because of this garbage platform, obviously it makes YouTube more dangerous than all the social media combined 21:26/22:48/23:05 - Because he has the right to protect himself based on the 4th amendment rights that YouTube hates. He was in risk of his life, just like a average whistleblower would be23:56 - That's the point emp, making everyone aware not gain views or creating debates even though YouTube is evil, why you think he disappeared? 25:12 - Nah, i think YOU just moved in to stupid town without actually researching the vatican & YouTube being communist32:54 - He was not responsible retard, the vatican was33:12 - 33:18: Matt is really making you look stupid. LOOK UP THE VATICAN!34:58 - Keemstar is a j3wish shill, he is gatekeeping YouTube. He scared because of losing money like he is now demonetized, gosh emp you stupid asf. 36:38 - Again, most of them have to be shills in order to become popular like keemstar & pewdiepie38:35 - Why are we cant make nazi memes but we can make communism memes? See emp, YouTube is funded by the communists. You must learn the history of communism, 9/11 or DARPA to fully understand Youtube's purpose50:34 - The vatican is the main agenda The reason why this happen is because the vatican made the coppa through the meeting they had months before. Check this out: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2019/11/14/pope-francis-calls-leaders-and-tech-giants-protect-children-online https://www.romereports.com/en/2019/11/12/vatican-asks-technology-giants-to-protect-children-on-internet In The End, YouTube is a place where people can prefer to see or hear the truth the way they want rather than find the ultimate truth. This platform is made based of radical ideologies like the history of the internet (Utopia has the same gematria cipher as YouTube btw)Please dont make this lame video next time & find better sources to use
0 likesgarry glitter music while talking about matt
0 likesThat Matt tried so hard to be a hero and failed
1 likeAnd all of sudden he decide to show his face again (figuratively), and apparently, totally not because of this video –but we all know it was because of this video. He calls it "conspiracy theory Alex Jones thing". He didn't convince me at all.
2 likesThere's a guy (Sticky_Bob) who makes him 7 questions, and just now I thought of looking this guy's account, he has not been active since posting the questions. He even questions if he's back because of you, which makes total sense to ask. This could very well be one of Matt's other account, so he's making himself specific questions that could help him end his now infamous popularity, perhaps. I only scrolled down on this guy's account once and it looks normal, but the possibility exists, who knows. You guys can further investigate this, and also question him.
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/g4nlcz/last_year_i_made_a_video_exposing_the/
@Resarf Jomes he didn't pretend to be Matt.
0 likes@Samu-el Daw-kins So I'm assuming that he just added a voice over on other footage(probably from Matt's channel).
1 likehe actaully responded on his community tab on youtube
0 likesthey chose him because then they would poke holes in your arguement by saying he had a history on youtube and the question would come up
1 like@hatis I see
0 likesmaybe he just wanted to watch the world burn
0 likesYa know, one day about 6 months I was trying my best to find exactly the kind of content you provide and I couldn’t really find it besides finding “internet historian” who is fantastic. But all these months later I finally stumbled across your channel, as someone a little older and who hasn’t paid too much attention to what’s happened across the internet over the last 10-15 years I’ve found myself wanting to catch up on the major events from a neutral facts based source and your channel is excellent for that so thanks!
1 likeHere's an idea for the Industry Plant theory... what if they just hired the cheapest shmuck they could find who they still felt was competent enough to do the job?
0 likesRed spy in the base as its the Base of the red team.
1 likeDowN wArD SpIRaL
Emp love your vids man. Keep it up dude. I found this wormhole of weird child videos that does indeed lead to some pretty sexual things happening. This is mostly weird videos of people in costumes doing very sexual poses or performing motions in such a manner. The further you go down that hole the weirder and weirder it does indeed get. This was a few years ago that I found out about all this. I mean things got WEIRD AS HELL. I told my sister to never let her kids watch youtube or things that would start autoplaying more videos aimed at children because the more you clicked on the sidebar the weirder things got. This was a long time ago and it was yes on a conspiracy forum. The thread was about these videos trying to subliminally expose kids to these sexual postures and actions in what seems in a harmless way. By harmless I mean videos that made no sense in the absolute slightest as far as their story would be. It would be completely random stuff these people would do and it would largely be the things I listed at the beginning of this post. The thread that showed me this weird crap that's out there was about making kids more normalized to sexual actions as they would see people dressed up in superhero costumes humping each other or whatnot. Then there would be videos of actual kids with the camera focused on childrens' areas that was too obvious to someone who isn't a child. Kids doing or showing off their gymnastic flexibility for example - the camera would be focused on what you can guess. And there was A LOT OF IT. Matt reporting it to Youtube is not smart if he really wanted to do something about it. Send that shit to the website you listed, the FBI most of all, yea report it to youtube but don't make it the main focal point. Awareness is what people should've been doing. These videos would have their comments turned on (at least 5 years ago or so when I first made known about this) of mostly adults telling them to "keep it up" "love it!" etc. Really weird.
0 likesLike if this was made by matt more aware 5 years ago everyone would be 100x more shocked as to what they could find. Some serious shit would go down even with how matt handled it - because of the nature of the content in the kid videos. If you guys thought it was bad now... you don't want to know what was on youtube in the past 5-7 years. Actual. Legit. CP. Could be found a time around 5-7 years ago. The hole you would have to go down to find this stuff to report would scar you.
0 likesYou're gonna make people wet with that Fredrik Knudsen reference.
0 likesSo... when are we gonna develop a go to a ACTUAL alternative? I mean, the entire World Wide Web's ethos is violated and corrupted daily by governments, corporations and other organizations for shenanigans defined by their hidden self-interests.
0 likesGuess what, I have enough of this bullshit. Tell me all what you would like to ask for a niche platform outside the modern internet framework and I will work my way forwards to it.
Thank you @EmpLemon for your entire content line, we have such a similar libre mindset that I can only do my duty here by manufacturing such a
Emp, what you have just describe is what pure democracy brings
0 likesF
0 likesWhy are The Simpsons Red at 16:33
1 likeThey should be green!
You did a good job on the research!
0 likes@stick the second I agree and His thing bout "Youtubers only care about money" so the Red bearded dude u know the Entire world is about MONEY Quickest Example Your a Good Animator that established themselves you Work 6-8h a day for a 20min animation for a month and like before rely on monitizing And suddenly Its demonetized So instead of finding lets say a job you use your talent and work Hard for a month only to not to get a single penny? Like unless you already have a backup Job Your Literly FUCKED
0 likes@Thicc ThanosBoi im confused is this supposed to be for me ?
0 likes@stick the second No it didnt mean you i meantthe red bearded dude which i already forgot the Name of and Yeah kids shouldnt be on youtube tho like you said the other part was just me bieng mad at the Red bearded dude i shouldve seperated it into two comments (part after this edited in) i meant Matt in Emplemons vid
0 likes@Thicc ThanosBoi oh ok its just that I commented so long ago it was hard for me to understand the context thanks for clearing things up.
0 likes49:57 I know it is besides the piont... I know it is from half life but Im to dumb to find it rn... Help me out...
0 likesNevermind it is from portal isn't it...
0 likesWant you gone it went to 3 playlists and about 200 songs bruh I suck
0 likes9:19
0 likes"Many high-profile YouTubers have taken a stance against child exploitation"
>Shows PewDiePie, whose channel's popularity is built on the backs of kids that grew up watching his videos over the years and is under an exclusive contract with YouTube, H3, who has proven to be willing to suck up to the Wojcickis to keep making profitable content on YouTube regardless of the outcome of others, and PyroCynical, who was involved in a polytheistic relationship with a minor on Discord.
I hate to break it to you, but most YouTubers really are greedy, hence, why you'll see many of them seek sponsorships, even if they already demand that their viewers donate to their patreon for sub-par content that isn't even worth screenshooting and downloading to redistribute for free, and yet, get pissy when they can't get paid for the ads on their videos to play.
Though, I'm on the channel where someone said in one video that they didn't care if they got paid or not, and only wanted their videos to be seen, yet, made an entire video bitching about "muh monetization" that's dedicated to one of his movie reviews because it got age restricted, assuming there's a reason why said person simply didn't migrate to Odysee, despite having a decent following by this point.
What sound effect or music track is used at about 0:08?
0 likesHappy that you talked a bit about le Roi des rats.
0 likesMy theory is he was basically sick of Youtube and frustrated he couldnt make a living on it. He knew how it worked, but his content just wasnt good enough to generate. So he started this entire debacle as sort of the last ditch molotov, then called it quits. Reddit, did what Reddit does. His video got huge from that at first, and everyone with ulterior motives began latching on. Advertisers, companies and especially online news-sites who have this constant competition / vendetta against this platform.
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That’s an understandable strategy but taking into account his political ideas I feel as though there must have been something else going on
343 likesyeah he was definently used by corpos and news articles
134 likesJust Occam's razor IMO. No red-pill conspiracies to see here. Just a disgruntled person, a cleaver appeal to emotion campaign, and echo chambers doing what they do best: blindly accepting anything that reaffirms their biases.
75 likesThe disgruntled YouTuber hypothesis doesn't make any sense, in my opinion. This was corporate, how the schedules all line up perfectly is way too suspicious. Watson's bizarre history on the platform doesn't disprove this hypothesis either, and in fact it helps obfuscate the agenda, anyone looking to hire someone for this kind of stunt wouldn't go for a blank slate. There is also the fact that the supposed exploitation was already being heavily discussed on several online forums prior to Watson's video, so there was a non-negligible and very loud swath of the Internet already very receptive to this message. Claiming that this was all about a disgruntled YouTuber only makes sense superficially, and ignores a huge portion of the story. You can't Occam's Razor this one without setting aside important details.
46 likesYeah I think you are right, he's just a burnt out dude who wanted to burn the joint down.
2 likesTo add to that, I think he's using the air of mystery from his disappearance as a cash grab when he comes back in the future.
7 likesTbh I think it’s either some mad dude or a guy who some corporations decided to pick up as an agent for whatever bizarre money saving ad scheme came from this. I’m leaning more towards the corporate idea because of what appears when you take a closer look at everything involved with him.
0 likesAlternateHistoryHub or he has a few unsavoury skeletons in his closet that he needed to hide
1 likeHe was probably motivated by a combination of factors. He could have been both generally spiteful of the YouTube community both due to his own lack of success and his underlying political agenda. Emp's last theory is probably the most farfetched but the pre-existing beef between YT and its advertisers would explain the eagerness with which the media and companies latched onto this narrative.
19 likesHey Cody
0 likes"content wasnt good enough" have you been on this website only vapid bullshit gets popular here
2 likesAlternateHistoryHub
7 likesThat why I already hate his guts, I do feel sorry that he didn’t make a sustainable career on YouTube, but you shouldn’t destroy other’s careers just because yours didn’t get of the ground
I might be missing something, but that’s the vibe I got from him.
Or Matt could be a television and newspaper/news site shill to destroy Youtube. Just a tin-foiled, crackpot theory
3 likes@Zay Ray Because politics is interested in you even if you aren't interested in politics.
3 likesI definitely agree - he isn't intelligent enough to think too far ahead, and this makes the most sense to someone like Matt. No extreme ulterior motive, just a kamikaze attack before moving on.
2 likesI totally didn't read this comment with your voice in my head...
2 likesI believe you did to try get a job in the mainstream most likely BuzzFeed of course they can't have him do any projects at the time, his stunt still hasn't fully blown over yet since we all still remember it.
1 likeHe used the same kind of language they use hell he even liked to use the same tactics they use as well. He was pretty much giving any news organization his resume.
AlternateHistoryHub understandable.
0 likesI couldn’t help but read this whole thing in your voice
“Hey Jimmy, want to wreck the livelihoods of the next wave of media that has usurped radio and television?”
It’s impossible to not read this with your voice.
0 likesPapa John
1 likeWhat do Political ideas have to do with this theory? I think the strange way that this occurred shows there’s something deeper to the motives, but this theory isn’t really related to his politics.
His channel was originally a self improvement and nofap channel. Because the words fap and porn were mentioned it was demonetized by youtube (even though it was a channel discouraging these things, didn't matter). I think the bitterness and resentment were probably a real motive.
5 likesBut how was he able to manipulate a huge mob but can’t find a way to make successful content?
1 likehey cody
0 likesAlternateHistoryHub my two favourite youtubers in the same video? Am I dreaming?
1 likeaside for contradictions pointed out in the 2nd and 3rd theory
1 likeyou have to realize how corporations have utilized seemingly morally good things and socially progressive agendas to increase their profit
maybe matt was a lefty, and he really wanted to take a dig at the people who push you through the pewdiepipeline, BUT when corporations saw this as an opportunity to pull out of the business agreement and come back with cheaper offers,they over exposed him
OR maybe,matt was not a lefty,and not to be conspiratorial here but he maybe made a manufactured moral crisis to do the same thing i said above
also nothing against lefties,i am one myself
I think ya have a point Cody.
0 likesPapa John I think he was just angry that so many right wing channels found easy popularity. It invigorated him that people see saw as “nazis” were successful while he wasn’t. He felt/feels they shouldn’t be allowed to even think that way, so of course he doesn’t want to see them succeed. Especially when he’s not.
1 likeUmm how about you just watch lethal weapon
0 likesI think all three of the theories are plausible, but only two of them are probable. It's hard for me to believe that companies are willing to shoot themselves in the foot for any period of time just make their services cheaper on ads, but it's highly believable that Matt was personally politically motivated against not only the YouTubers responsible for child pornography, but also in a way him being against the idea that the corporations are tied directly to them. The only way we'll be able to confirm anything is if Matt comes out one day telling the truth.
1 likeAlternateHistoryHub bruh off topic but you need to continue that series where people submitted alternate histories and you talked about them. Anyway I agree with you on your statement.
2 likes@Miselus Yeah, I agree. I don't think he was explicitly an industry plant, I think that he was just the right catalyst at the right time for media companies to latch on to, and force YouTube's hand. Assuming this is the case, the fact that his politics also lined up nicely with the corporations' goals in the end is just a little bonus for them. These two factors together make it seem like there's a deeper conspiracy, but I just don't believe that.
0 likesALTERNATEHISTORYHUB!!
1 likeOk but what the hell are you doing here
0 likesMaybe you should do an alternate history video on this topic
0 likesGod. I can already see the melodramatic biopic about Matt's life. A scene with some smug, enigmatic Corporation Man with sunglasses offering Matt a suitcase of money. Giving him vague platitudes about how he'll no longer be ignored. How together, they can create consequences for the platform that scorned him.
0 likeswhy are you in the weirdest places every time i see your comments
0 likesMan, so even breadtube didn’t want this guy? Pity he would have for right in.
0 likes@Papa John I think it could be a mix of both of those, as he was a failed youtuber, as well as a angry leftist, I feel both of them made him have resent the creators on youtube
0 likesSome people just want to watch the world burn
0 likesBut why wouldn't he keep making videos after his new found success?
0 likes>he was jealous so he wanted revenge
0 likesIt's stupid the more likely option is that he was an agent of chaos , or doesn't like youtube for other reasons (don't need to explain really) and wanted to blow 'em up
I feel like it’s a combination of leftist, industry plant, and what AlternateHistoryHub said. It is possible to have more than one motive after all.
0 likesYo, bit weird, but can you do a cnc tib universe chronology?
0 likesDidn't expect to see you here
0 likesHey it's cody
0 likesNEWS CORP
0 likesnah bro. nah. there's no way anyone would do this shit just cause they failed at yt. and if he was able to get this popular for the boycott why not just make your normal videos popular? it just doesn't add up
0 likesdidn't expect 2 see u
0 likesmy theory is that gingers have no souls
0 likesYeah... No, it had to be at least partly ideological
0 likesThat....that makes too much sense, but I do not understand why anyone would do that, my contents not trending, but that doesn't mean try to destroy YouTube, but I have a brain, unlike this guy
0 likesi know this shit is old but yall honestly dont know what yall are talking about, I used to watch him before all this BS. He started his channel making "nofap" videos its basically a movement to stop porn addiction and he would just talk about his life and shit, he wasn't really trying to be a "youtuber" if that makes sense. He deleted all those videos and vanished and he came back with this. I think he cared and he just didn't understand youtube. He was never really trying to be a youtuber.
0 likesWasn’t that one of the points in the video already?
0 likesI like to think it's one of Susan Wojcicki's sugar babies that she dumped.
0 likesDude wanted to see the world burn lol
1 likehe literally went "If I can't Make money, No one can!"
1 likeMy theory is that all that is nonsense and this video is just apologetics and propaganda by A big YouTuber directly sponsored by YouTube itself to deflect criticism
1 likeYou're very naïve to think that deep down everyone is actually sane and has logical, calculated intentions for their actions.
1 likeAh, look. A checkmark sticking with the failed youtuber theory.
0 likesTo me, I feel like Matt got some pretty horrific post-nut clarity and was horrified (and ashamed) when Youtube started recommending similar videos afterwards.
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Holy fucking shit you're probably right
164 likesProbably true lol
55 likesProbably
27 likesLMAOOOOO
20 likesThis isn't funny.
7 likes@Rodrigo A.M you’re right, it’s not funny it’s just probably true,
79 likes@Rodrigo A.M it's not funny, it's hilarious!
29 likesThat’s my guess
53 likesPeople who usually present themselves as super anti-“thing” tend to actually be pro-“thing” in private. The goal is to distract people away from your misdeeds by assuming the role of someone who “definitely will never be that guy”
Like isn’t the point of cookies to track your preferences?
0 likesLe Rock Eyebrow
3 likes@Joshua Salem That's only the case with narcissists. Most people, when they say they hate child abuse, they actually just hate child abuse.
17 likes@Rodrigo A.M hi matt
1 likeY'know, this makes as much sense as his stated motive... And that's painfully sad.
1 like@Joshua Salem Maybe YOU do that, and you're just projecting. I know I don't.
4 likesAnyone saying "think of the children" usually has something else planned.
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Of course. People blame children for "ruining everything" but said people freak about kids having any sort of fun. Childhood is now a posh prison
148 likesJust like a bill called "USA Patriot" is most likely an attack on human rights.
96 likesOr they’re thinking waaaay too much about the children
57 likes@Lexicon Devil yeah...
3 likes@Kurt E. Clothier Alabama literally just passed a law that goes against academic consensus by outlawing the more effevtive forms of treatment for trans kids and forcing teachers to disclose non-gender conforming behaviour to parents. According to every body with authority on how to help and prevent suicidality in trans people this will do nothing but spike the rates of depression, mental illness, and suicidality in that population.
48 likesGuess what it is called: "Vulnerable Child Compassion and Protection Act" and an unsettilingly large number of abstinence only education laws are named and cited as trying to "protect children" despite solely having negative consequences for society. If any law or bill mentions kids in the title flags should be raised in your head. Any time someone mentions kids for their laws a lot of research should be done.
@Haruhiro Grimgar i remember this 'study' that was conducted, having 2 identical twins. one was forced to transition, the other did not. Guess which one killed themselves?
14 likes@Kalypso And did you bother to look at literally the consensus of studies on how to work with or help trans youth? How one of if not the best predictor for if a trans person commits suicide is did their family support them?
35 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar Harvard also said at one time that candy was good for your teeth. One random site cherry-picking results does not mean jack shit. Stop misinforming people. . A child can very easily be confused, or manipulated into giving results that the study wants. Most people don't even understand themselves and understand who they really are until around 20. I've felt the way I do since 5 years old, but from asking around, I know i am a severe anomaly and I admit those feelings could have been wrong. I wrestled with that for my entire childhood and teen years, until 16 when I was sure. Just stop talking for us. All you people seem to do is spread misinformation and lies to try and 'protect' us. We do not need protecting.
22 likes@Kalypso The issue is you have provided no counter sources or evidence. You are just saying because you are trans your prescription is therefore stronger than my academic sources.
11 likesIf you want to prove me or my statements wrong you need to provide or link academic articles or bodies. Not just anecdotal experience or one-off incidents. The reason I went with the meta-analysis is because it is combining the academic findings of many institutions and researchers to find a common consensus. It isn't just some researcher cherry-picking, it is combining the results of a mass number of academically verified documents.
My argument lies in the fact that transitioning is PERMANENT. If you were mistaken, you have no do-overs. That's why it's bad for children to transition. Children don't understand there own feelings enough to make those decisions.
15 likes@Kalypso The law doesn't solely prevent transition. It outlaws all forms of treatment ranging from hormone therapy to puberty blockers. Not only that the law compels teachers to inform parents when the kid has "non-gender conforming behaviours" in other words tell the parents before the kid might be ready to. And transition when paired with the proper counsel seems to be generally beneficial. Not having the option altogether is a horrible idea.
15 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar They shouldn't have the option until 18, arguably 16 as 16 year olds know about themselves more than a 7-8 year old would, but idk if it's enough. Transitioning is a permanent thing, and if any person messes up in diagnosing that child.... Coaching is a thing. I've seen mothers try and force their boy children to transition. I just don't think it's a good idea overall.
11 likes@Kalypso You need to provide data to back up your positions. And people are not getting transitional surgery before the age of 18. This isn't something happening or being pushed for by these academic bodies.
11 likesThe law is making it more difficult for trans kids to seek treatment or get extra time before deciding to transition. Puberty blockers are meant to be used to prevent the growth of secondary sexual characteristics up until 16 (and the second you take someone off of them then they go right through puberty with essentially no side-effects.) This makes it cheaper if someone decides to transition later (with most professionals in favour of being at least 21) and provide them extra time for counseling until then.
On top of blocking the prescription of hormones and compelling teachers to tell a kids parents before the child might be comfortable with it (in a deeply conservative and religious state which are generally not supportive of trans-people.) This law does nothing but harm trans kids.
@Haruhiro Grimgar no i don't. I'm not actually trying to prove anything. YOU want me to believe in your nonsense. You have the burden of proof. i'll prove myself when you do.
8 likes@Kalypso I already linked two academic papers and listed three majour organizations in agreement, I can link you their official stances and resources if you so desire, that info is hardly hidden. What more evidence do you need before considering this law would be solely harmful?
9 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar You are proving it TO ME. Not anyone else. Those 'academic papers' are not enough to convince me. If you wanna prove it, then give me more! If you really cared about this subject so much you would have more than 2 'academic papers' that have nothing more than circumstantial evidence.
6 likes@Kalypso those "academic papers" are not even scientific to begin w/. also, about the video w/ the kid transitioning? yup, i saw it. i think those who conducted the experiment should aught to be tor**red and killed. the same degree aught to be tor**red and killed like those who conduct the "attachment therapy" to candace newmaker.
7 likes@_*ZAPATOZ*_ That's a bit far, but it's certainly fucked up. I also like how that person liked their own comments to try and give them more 'validity'
8 likesI hate these people so much because they couldn’t care less of children, they are just an excuse for their disgusting ulterior motives
9 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar yep
1 likeThey don't do it "for the children" they do it for themselves
2 likes@Kalypso 4 Months old but I just got notified about this comment thread. You seem to have 0 comprehension of what a Meta-analysis is. In one of those "papers" I listed they went over the results of 55 studies that were done over several decades.
5 likesYou cannot give stronger sources than meta analysis and professional opinions of the largest organizations related to the topic. I have not only cited you more studies than you have probably ever read in your life, but the word of organizations who are in-part responsible for the mental and physical healthcare of millions of people. All while they are held to incredibly standards by other academics, academic bodies, publications, and the legal system.
I don't find it reasonable to trust 1 incident coming from a random person on the internet when there are bodies of people with more accountability being held to them than we would have if we murdered someone.
@Haruhiro Grimgar Jesus christ, i lost brain cells listening to the other guy refuse to even acknowledge your argument. Props on citing sources tho
10 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar bless your heart for trying to make the blind see. It was tough reading that guy’s replies.
7 likesYeah, anyone saying "think of the children" usually is thinking of said children in a more criminal manner themselves.
2 likes@Kalypso Sounds made up.
2 likes"Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?"
0 likes@Haruhiro Grimgar Why are you trying so hard.
3 likesPeople unable to see the difference between scientific skepticism and scientific denialism already are barely able to be considered humans. Why are you so desperately trying to shove his head with simple definitions such as what a meta-study is ?
Not worth your time. I deeply appreciate the willpower, but you're better off spending your time researching and reading papers...
@Kalypso you legally can't force anyone, let alone a child, to have hormone therapy. I smell some fake discriminatory bs coming from your direction
3 likes@26CLT Ignoring the obvious dig, the parents gave consent due to the doctor convincing them it was the best course of action, and of fucking course it wasn't.
2 likes@26CLT If you want to learn about it, it's around. It's not that hard to find. It's why all these people wanting kids to transition and trying to convince people that kids should transition pisses me off. If they really cared to find out, they would know better. It's all for themselves, not their child.
0 likesAlways!
0 likesThe most suspicious thing about Matt for me is the fact he never left an anonymous tip off to law enforcement. It’s extremely easy to do, very safe, and just common sense. His aim was not to target predators but to target a corporation that predators are leeching off of. The way he so quickly and vehemently shot down anyone who contacted him to even discuss the possibility of a different solution was kind of unsettling. It just doesn’t make sense unless he has a weird ulterior motive. That and his extremely inconsistent level of technological competence. That part absolutely reeks of B.S.
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If you go to Matt's video the comment section is almost entirely redditors and 37 year olds singing his praise and unironically saying we live in a society. It didnt matter how BS everything is, because when you're appealing to the dumbest of the dumb, you can do anything and make it seem like magic
26 likesHis aim was most certainly not to target the corporation. It was to simply lie to gain a following. If he was just trying to make Youtube lose money, I would commend him for that. But its not what he did
4 likes@Mario I can’t really say I support trying to tear down YouTube either. Doing that hurts countless innocent creators just trying to earn a living while entertaining people and following their passions for video making. Not that I have any love for YouTube the company or google, but YouTube the platform is a different thing entirely.
1 like@OutlawPrince You are correct, there are countless other corporations to target for their business practice before YouTube. Nestle and Disney come to mind
2 likes@Mario I agree
2 likesIt's also strange that he thought reporting it would implicate him in some way for some reason.
3 likesI have another theory:
446 likesHe had a manic episode, it got out of hand, and other people got involved. His lack of engagement is either a combination of embarrassment and ego, or just plain ego; He's too prideful to admit he did anything wrong, and whether or not he's embarrassed or believes that what he did was right, we'll never know. Dude dipped like some chicken sticks.
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This
7 likes@Mercury He could be delusional.
8 likesIt does almost sound like some kind of mesiah complex, but it's hard to say
1 likeI'm not a fan of passing off shitty people and their behavior as mental illness and episodes so kindly refrain from using words like manic or delusion.
0 likes@internalhabaneros why do you feel you have the right to dictate the language of others
4 likesMany streams have been called “The Worst Live Stream of All Time”, and it’s usually an exaggeration. But Matt’s final broadcast where he angrily grinds his teeth as he reads the chat and then periodically calls his viewers “losers” might be the actual worst meltdown I’ve ever seen.
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You my boy! What do you think about the story Nerd? Would like to hear your opinion on the motivations behind this guy.
88 likesoh look at this, the regulator is here everybody
29 likesNerd City Don’t know if you’ll have the chance to read.
98 likesBut I just wanted to say that you make some of my favorite content on the internet. Thank you for the all time and effort you put into your work. I genuinely appreciate it.
Underrated Channel, what was Matt’s true intentions?
8 likeswatching your videos give me iq points daddy nerd
8 likesSound like a ending to a Disney villain lol
16 likesHarbors on the death of Gaston lol
So....you've never watched a Dark Syde Phil livestream then?
21 likesHullo, Nerd City!
1 likeIndeed. indeed.
0 likes@Johnny B IKR, think of the children
3 likes@ImmaLittlePip Can ya hook a brother up? Love that shit.
1 likeI'M NOT MAD, YOU'RE MAD
0 likesIt's kinda like that one time during the He Will Not Devide Us event held by Shia LaBeouf when he attacked one of his supporters over the trolling.
4 likesNerd City “might be the actual worst meltdown I’ve ever seen” lmao you haven’t seen nothing yet. 😂
3 likesI reported this as it happened. Matt was a liar and clout chaser
5 likesDid you lie here as you did about Lele?
1 likeNot to mention that his audio for those streams was absolutely awful
0 likesI'm surprised he wasn't literally standing on a soap box for his videos.
0 likes@Charaleet Probably narcissism with an added bonus of revenge.
1 likeNerd City has too much skill and ability to be as decent as they are. How long till we find out that the devil is actually Lucifer Morningstar himself??
0 likes@ImmaLittlePip the best meltdown had to be the one where JaredGenesis was screaming at his dad. Oh god that one was good
1 likehonestly the worst meltdown ive seen was Hero's terraria 1.3 livestream
1 likeCoverEye he probably had good intentions at first, but had such a massive ego to where he’d rather push this narrative rather than pull back
0 likes@ImmaLittlePip Those are small fries, though. Of course there are always going to be other people that have like ten viewers and scream and cry. But this guy had thousands and thousands of viewers. Thousands and thousands of people watched this sad and fat failure get almost to the point of tears as he was faced with the reality that his plan was failing live on camera.
1 likeYou're awesome, I dig the ST hat! :D
0 likes@Tom Hill wait what? I thought he was still active, dark side phil is awful man, it's nice to hear he is out of yt
0 likesBen W I think your tinfoil hat’s on too tight, my man.
0 likesHe’s creepy AF. That’s what.
0 likeshaha then shane dawson happened
0 likesYou haven't watched anything by YandereDev then (to be fair, nobody would dare venture on to his streams)
0 likesLmfao
0 likes
0 likesusuallyalwayswho is matt???
0 likesIts nerd city!!!!!!!
0 likesThat's how you know he wanted to get his way, but he forgot some people had intelect
0 likesJerma world of Warcraft was the worst stream ever, jerma agrees
0 likesAnyone know the link?
0 likesgrinding the teeth and calling people losers is textbook cartoon language for very very mad
0 likesThen you should see The Young Turks and their weekly meltdowns. Matt is calm and composed in comparison to the likes of Cenk and Ana lol
1 likeI disagree, anything by the speedrunner formerly known as Cosmo.
0 likesIf he made the video just to hurt a big company like YouTube I would say itd be a forgivable lie. But he was trying to get famous himself
0 likesI've been trying to find what you've been talking about and I'm fucking pissed because I'm getting blue balled by a fucking youtuber
0 likesIt’s weird seeing Keemstar being the more rational person lol
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You know the situation is really fucked when good old Keemstar is the level headed one. Doesn’t happen very often but when it does it’s a great metric for seeing how crazy/shitty someone is.
104 likesEven a clock that has been stripped of all its wiring and shattered on the ground is right twice a day
44 likesYou know somethings wrong when keemstars right
8 likes@Nerdism you mind if I use this someday?
0 likes@TheNachoNinja FTW hey I won’t be there to care so whatever
9 likesKeemstar is like the weird anti-hero of youtube. Everybody kinda hates him because he's a self absorbed gnome, but he steps up to the plate whenever his interests align with the rest of the youtube community.
18 likesIts hard to not to respect him a bit, even if he might be doing the right thing for the wrong reasons
As much as I dislike him, when it comes to his opinions on YT as a platform and making things better for all creators, he actually has some good takes.
1 likeNot familiar with Keemstar, what makes him not typically levelheaded?
0 likesKeemstar is a meter at this point lol
0 likesMatt was secretly the CEO of Vimeo all along
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This is my favorite theory and my personal head cannon
42 likesWhen Matt's talking about how angry and disgusted he is, his face is completely unmoving. Not even any passive signs of disgust.
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The farthest any man has gone for reddit gold
21 likes@Mario I audibly laughed at this comment
3 likesThe sad thing is that Emp is right; Youtube needs to communicate more
217 likesOddly enough, the YouTuber who used to be known for “YouTube Poops” has some of the highest quality content on YouTube as a whole. Keep it up Emp.
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Thank you lorenz
16 likesYTP actually makes people into very good video editors over time and they often have little trouble switching to other types of content... Biodegradable became an editor for TRO, MoBros made anim8ball, Emp's doing this, and just look at some high-quality YTPs like Deliver Us, spingebill faces final judgement, or link: the boy: the movie: the trailer
215 likesWeird, I just made a similar comment then scrolled down the comments section and saw yours. AGREED. :)
4 likesYo for real tho, a lot of former YTP channels end up evolving into amazing analysis channels. Schaffrilas is another great example
59 likesFrom youtube poops to youtube golds
4 likes@bananasinfrench Schaffrilas is a channel that exists
17 likes@uranium54321 This is very true. If you want a fantastic example, look at Numberer 1. Started off doing YTP's, now he edits for Game Theory. And he STILL does YTP's on the side!
2 likesThis comment thread is convincing me I should make YTPs. As even if they are crap they'll help me edit better when I decide to buckle down and make serious videos.
4 likes@Shitlord I would say that Pyrocynical had YTP-quality-ish videos
13 likesOr maybe you have really low standarts.
2 likesI mean this video is fine but not even close to the best youtube have to offer
Lol no he doesn't
0 likesAre you rejecting Emplemon's potential, mr LJK401?
6 likes@Therworldtube Yeah, he's a far-right enabler
1 likebananasinfrench it’s so fucking weird and slightly baffling. Growing up watching YTP and seeing people then turn to make content like this, good googly moogly.
7 likesAll of that editing practice really pays for itself
1 likeThis kind of content make most other content on YouTube looks like Actual YouTube poop
1 likeARE YOU LORENZ HELLMAN GLOCKSTER?!
0 likes@LJK401 so basically, If you had a different opinion on politics, Your content is garbage no matter how Godlike the editing, Scriptwriting, Pacing, etc?
6 likes@Random Internet User Yes
0 likes@LJK401 not really, High quality is something with high production value that took a lot of time and effort to make. If someone made a video saying "All blacks, Asians, Childrens, Females, Jews should burn in hell" with godlike editing, Scriptwriting, filiming, etc. I would hate the video for spreading hate messages, But I wouldn't call it low quality.
2 likes@Random Internet User Being a right-winger is inherently low quality
0 likesIt actually makes more sense than you might think. Remember that Bruce Willis used to be a family friendly comedy actor. No one thinks of him like that any more, but ask anyone over 50 years old. They'll say they were surprised by Die Hard because it was so far out of type for Willis.
0 likes@LJK401 nice bait
0 likes@evan tanuwidjaja Sure
0 likescomparable to lemino
0 likesImplying that YTPs aren’t a high class form of art
0 likesWow, that's actually insane to watch his progression.
1 likeEmp did ytp??
0 likesDude he made ytp and also actively notates and comments on the history of memes and youtube nostalgia
1 likeThe history he himself is part of
9D chess
YTP was quality content though....
0 likesFr this editing is bonkers
0 likesTheory: matt watson was an angry failed youtuber who was offered an opportunity to be a corporate plant, hiving him a chance to get revenge on YouTube
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A mix of the two theories. Exactly what I was thinking.
58 likesMega m8nd
5 likesHat time
4 likesSnatcher what are you doing here
2 likes@kiricapp bread
2 likesNah, im gonna mix all three theories. He was an angry failed YouTuber who was also very much left leaning and felt YT unfairly pandered to the alt right (despite literally every action in recent years showing them trying to pander to left leaning circles).
14 likesIt just happened that either corporations reached out to him, he reached out to them, or he was already in a decent position at one and they offered him the job to be an online reputation assassin and he took it to own the reds (both YT and the right) while being too stupid or possibly too money hungry to realize it would harm his own political ties too.
I like how one of reddits most upvoted videos in the sites history was, in fact, a scam that could be disproven within an hour or less. Never change reddit, never change.
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What video?
1 like@88mphDrBrown bruh
2 likes@88mphDrBrown pov: you commented before watching this video
1 likeReddit has such a superiority complex and is so stupid. Remember that interview with the Reddit mod?
2 likesMatt is the ultimate Youtube paradox. He has quite good understanding of deeper internet minutiae, yet fundamentally misunderstands the consequences of his actions. He knows how to rile up a giant mob of people, yet has no interest in talking to the people who could actually help him and his cause. He went through the hassle of submitting anonymous emails to news sources, but had his name and face plastered all over the campaign. It's such a mixture of intelligence and incompetency that it's virtually impossible to try and figure out what the fuck he's actually trying to do. It's incredible in and of itself
8 likes"The reddit hive mind" very accurate
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Also The reddit Red Hive mind
11 likesthe reddit hive mind is probably one of the worst things in the internet, the all website devolved into one big propaganda and terrible memes, I miss 2013 reddit
39 likesA political machine
12 likesEven our subreddits joking about how much of a hive mind reddit has become hive minds, it awful and I don’t know why I still use the site at this point.
13 likes@Cannon Corley It's like drugs. Too much is bad for you but its addicting.
2 likesIt’s mainly the big subs though
1 like@urban frog every dub becomes a hive mind because karma greatly affects your post
1 likei meant to say sub not dub
0 likes@Rodrigo small subs are good for asking questions about niche topics that you can’t google/are hard to google, everything else is trash
7 likesIf this proves anything, is how fragile the Internet is. Honestly I'm not sure how much the Internet is going to further revolutionize society if Matt can manipulate it so easily
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We just need to find a good person to manipulate everyone
51 likes@Austin What do you mean?
2 likes@Austin that would lead to a dictator of the internet. This famously does NOT go well.
89 likesAlso it's easier to rile up a crowd into an angry destructive mob than it is to calm them into a productive and good team, so I doubt that'd work anyway...
He wanted to kill the site. That's it. No other agenda.
12 likesIts not going to revolutionise society again : internet is like modern society now.
5 likesreplace Internet by humanity. We are just a bunch of stupid animals that get easily manipulated... Internet just make it happen quicker.
39 likesimplying that not every content anywhere is bein artificially pushed
1 likeThis didn't happen because of a literally who ginger. This happened because it was opportune to the media companies - for the clicks - and to the advertisers. Society isn't being revolutionized anytime soon.
7 likesThe Internet doesn’t revolutionize society. People revolutionize society. Whether or not Matt had any kind of good incentive, what he did was technically the most revolutionary act this platform has ever seen, and proves what it ACTUALLY takes to convince the masses to do what you need it to do.
4 likesTheguyonthetv 27 or corporate entrys
0 likesFlyingclam
6 likesIt’s called mob mentality, thankfully all you need is common sense to stop it
@Darth Agonus People are smarter then you think. After all, stories like these are the exception, not the rule. Now Redditors on the other hand...
5 likesDarth Agonus
0 likesBaaaah
It’s actually kinda funny, the strongest thing in existence can be stoped by the simplest of solutions lol
0 likesFlyingclam its fragile because of how humans work, he knows how to manipulate people and a lot of the internet is extremely social and economical 2 things that influence eachother
4 likesit's not the internet that's fragile, it's the users that fail to think for themselves
3 likes@Austin maybe it already exist and has manipulated us all
1 likeif you shut down Reddit this would literally never be a problem
1 like@Darth Agonus that why its necessary teach them logical reason
0 likesIf he can manipulate the internet in a terrible way, it can happen vice versa. Hopefully
0 likes@Darth Agonus so your a sheep?
1 likeThe internet will continue to change things, just because people can manipulate, doesn't mean it could last. Everyone forgot about this dude, the advertisers came back, and pedos still watch junior ballet classes on YT.
1 likeThe Printing Press revolutionized society to the point of toppling empires.
4 likesYou can establish a direct link between it and the French Revolution for example. That's a 350 years gap. There's A LOT of things in between that led to it, but they all started with the Press.
Anyways, people seem to forget the Internet has been around for little more than a generation.
Infrastructure started been laid down in the 80. Scholars point to 1995 with Windows 95 bringing it to the common public. Youtube is just 13 years old.
Rules, regulations and norms will eventually come to regulate it. Just like they did with the standards of Journalism back in the day. Until legal structures are in place to beat it into shape, the Internet is pretty much a wild west right now. And because the nature of people is to rape an exploit until it's patched, abuses, predatory behavior and unfairness will exist until they're slammed with regulations. Because shitheads like these are only capable of thinking ahead up to their next meal, they fuck it for everyone to get a slight edge.
Dog, it was one website
1 likeTo be fair, Matt was only the face of this operation. Who knows how many others were helping in the shadows, and how much power they had.
1 likeThere's Always Another Way the dictator is AI, it will come soon.
0 likesIn reality it shouldn’t go that much further, since it’s already a cesspool
0 likesthis is a big reminder to bully redditors alot
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AHS fucking ruined the site
349 likesIt used to be like a lesser 4chan but it became a hivemind
Yes
19 likesNo mercy.
151 likesNo pity.
No hope.
Reddit delenda est.
@Spencer Grady we should start a operation downfall of reddit
17 likes@Spencer Grady alright we post memes that are top tier kek on their boards so AHS sees it. Trys to ban the subreddit. Then finally once AHS is the only one we just nuke them with memes till they give up
9 likes@Spencer Grady we also need to get more people who sit on the shitter
2 likesThat's not very Wholesome Keanu Chungus 100 if you.
62 likes@The main cause of warps in all of reality reddit moment
0 likes@Moparty 440 wtf did AHS stand for again?
1 like@asd against hate subreddits
63 likesThey became the very thing they sought to destroy. They have become so consumed with hate they dont even see the irony.
Lots of subreddits have disbanded in the wake of AHS making a letter to admins.
Now this isn't confirmed but there have been some sources of AHS posting child porn on alts in order to shut down subs they hate.
@Moparty 440 jesus christ, i just use reddit for a good laugh but that sounds awful.
1 likeI'm a Redditor, kind of a part of the hivemind. Should I stay away from subreddits like r/dankmemes and similar ones to prevent myself from being a massive douche?
7 likes@Jason lmao
36 likes@Jason meme subreddits on reddit have became less dank and more like the same format over and over again.
42 likes@Moparty 440 I know. Some people in the sub pointed it out and it's genuinely repetitive
9 likes@Moparty 440 based
1 likeTurning your hate into a fuel to cyberbully Redditors is ironically the most Reddit thing you could do. Just leave them alone and don't allow them enter your communities.
48 likesCoinFlip
3 likesI presume it’s because Reddit thinks they’ll singlehandedly take down Netflix, thinking of themselves as a sort of saviour to the internet when they’re really not.
@Moparty 440 yeah, especially with the upvote/downvote system. You say something that doesn’t appeal to the hivemind, and you get downvoted to the ground.
11 likes@Moparty 440 no, youtubers did because of the influx of users, some subreddits set to private if they get found out by the larger community, subreddits are good until they get more than 100k subs
3 likes@enriktigasna really? Man they are good at hiding then. Only one I know is tendyhotspot after the boogies faked their death. Didn't occur to me that others will do the same
1 like@Moparty 440 honestly it was funnier when they were like that
0 likes@Armaan Sandhu against hate subreddit just go to reddit and see for yourself r/Ahs
0 likesThey have gotten better after a quarantine but it is better for you to judge for yourself
@EndLaiser lmao
1 likeI really am a hypocrite
I just want reddit back to what it was with the communities that were purged back
Honestly you right thou
@Jason The only good subreddit is r/watchredditdie
1 likeReddit is such a cesspool that even the subreddits dedicated to making fun of how the site has become a hive mind have also become hive minds
5 likes@Cannon Corley r/circlejerk
1 like@Spencer Grady You’re describing Tumblr not reddit.
0 likesr/bullyredditors
3 likesI mean, it was already said, all social media kinda fucking sucks. Tictok makes people do nigh deadly things (ex: drinking benadryl), Instagram is infinitely critical to a depressing level, Twitter is twitter, etc.
3 likesThe huge influx of YouTube kids coming from pewdiepie and other "Reddit tubers" made all the meme subs go to shit, then the Karens and SJW's came in and banned the funny edgy stuff.
5 likesNow reddit openly lets pro-CCP (Chinese communist party) subreddits who DENY GENOCIDES keep going on the site while banning edgy meme subreddits and pushes political hive mind subreddits take the front page.
A classic example of too many people surging onto a site that wasn't made for high volumes of people and making it go to shit.
I got reddit once and left before my first cake day. I hated it so much lol
1 like@Moparty 440 then there's Subreddit Drama, which is really just posting stuff from r/conservative to get karma. Funny enough, people on there really say that r/politics is better. That's a massive lie
2 likes@Spregged72 no, Tumblr died after the porn ban. I’m pretty sure all of the users ended up moving to Reddit, which is what led to that turning into pure cancer not long after Tumblr’s porn ban.
4 likes@Ardent Fire REDDIT DELANDA EST!
1 like@Jason yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes dear god stay away
0 likes@Declan B. And 4chan doesn't have the same problem?
0 likesI don't know. I use the site quite a bit and I never seen anything toxic
1 like@Moparty 440 I was wondering what AHS stands for?
0 likesIt's the biggest soy pool in the world
3 likessaying to bully redditors is the most reddit thing you can do
5 likes@Moparty 440 AHS? AHS is one of the reasons reddit isn't even worse than it is.
1 like@Moparty 440 sorry ahs? What’s that? I’ve used 4chan for ~3 years and have been on Reddit for ~5 years for “””other””” kinds of content
0 likes@Moparty 440 why tho :/
0 likesWhat if a redditor bullies other redditors
1 like@J Jizzle69 2 it's ironic that they have used reddit like once
0 likesOr how about all the subreddits that give you useful advice, all the stories on askreddit, or all the animal picture subreddits? I ain't denying the fact it's a cesspool and there's circlejerk after circlejerk. I know there's bad stuff everywhere, but the same goes for youtube, Twitter, 4chan, Tumblr, almost every news outlet ect ect.
2 likesIt's not just reddit that's bad, be angy about something else.
@birdlisa58 i don't care
2 likes@Sipho Brisloks 🥬lettuce
0 likesleave the hentai subs alone pls
1 likei have an embarrassing amount of time on reddit. i hate reddit but it's impossible to escape.
0 likes@Moparty 440 no idea what that is but reddit was destined to fail because of karma.
0 likesAs a Redditor this is absolutely based
1 likeYou’re right. Redditors and Tweeters are to be made fun of and forbidden from entering communities
1 like@worm because they deserve it
0 likes@Moparty 440 4 Chan is even worse
0 likes@Cosmic space thing yeah we know
1 likeWe don't hide like snakes thou.
K turned into pol sadly.
Reddit people are the worst
1 likeAs a redditor I agree
0 likesbut my dad is a redditor...
0 likes@EndLaiser as much as i really want to do so, bullying redditors is stooping down to their levels.
0 likes@Alvin Yakitori reddit is fine
0 likesWhy?
0 likesUsed to be in that platform a lot, thankfully I am out of that Reddit hole. Reddit Delenta Est.
1 likeThis is a big reminder that every single userbase has its bad apples. For example, some people on YouTube still have Pepe profile pictures in the year 2021.
0 likes@Moparty 440 "like a lesser 4chan"
0 likespeople like you are who ruined Reddit. We're better off without you edgelords. Please stay on 4chan <3
As a redditor i actually agree
0 likes@Trouble in large numbers i mean I still use it to trouble shoot shit on some games,I dont use it a lot anymore.
0 likesi am worthy of bullying
0 likesA lot
0 likesAs someone who just uses redit for porn it’s funny to watch it fail
0 likesI only use reddit to watch funny videos. Does that make me a baddie?
0 likes@Moparty 440 mate, ahs stopped being a good thing when they started trying to shut down random subs, they took so many subreddits for no reason.
1 like@Average Alien that's pretty unfair, ironically this is a very reddit comment
0 likes@Nate The Great ohhh man! You should see twitter!
1 likeI don’t believe in bullying.
0 likesexcept for when it comes to redditors.
@Jason aa
0 likesI stopped using Reddit for a 5-6 years and since coming back a few months ago have had maybe 3 or 4 instances where people have corrected me on the gender identities of video game characters.
1 likeThat in itself isn't surprising, you click on their account and obviously its the usual "she/her" but actually just a guy in a dress types obviously spamming this shit, its the fact that when I reply "Are you seriously trying to argue with me for 'misgendering' a video game character you sad fuck." I get downvoted to oblivion and they get upvoted.
I like the theory that he's a political shill, his overall attitude, the means he took to achieve his goal and the subreddits he used to post into were all similar to the kind of behavior seen in Twitter outrage mobs. It's a damn shame, because Watson took a very serious issue that needed fixing, and made it about his personnal vendetta against youtube for political capital and reddit gold.
29 likesI’m glad I found your channel, really good stuff, keep it up. You could be right about him being a corporate plant, regardless advertisers certainly used it as a huge bargaining chip. It does seem as though this particular controversy was inevitable as it is very easy to appeal to the fear in the uneducated masses.
8 likesThe way he vanished after getting so much attention and validation makes me wonder if this was an actual social experiment. It doesn't seem like he had any greater motive other than seeing how far he could go by using a sensitive situation to manipulate the public. Kind of makes him even more reprehensible than the usual grifter who is just pulling at the heart strings for clout and cash.
16 likesMy boy Emp is back with the top tier internet documentaries, this quarantine was getting boring enough.
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Heeelll yeeeaaaah
2 likesZRDR_DelRio meh
3 likesAnd Colossal's gonna upload? Yes
0 likes>"this quarantine was getting boring enough" bro this video was posted like 3 days after quarantine started... how tf did you handle the next like 14 months of it
1 like@nev the punk Oh it was like 2-3 weeks after quarantine started in my area, but if you're wondering I mostly just played videogames, I didn't develop some kind of cabin fever or anything like that but it did get a little tedious at points.
3 likesI’m actually really glad that you covered this controversy in this video. That flower with “you’ve got scammed sweetheart” after the patreon credit roll is honestly chef kiss material. Well done.
6 likesThis is phenomenal work!
21 likesI was onto him from the start. I saw his post when it was climbing to the front page of Reddit and I saw every live stream. I knew something was off, and when I started digging in, he hadn't fully cleaned up his tracks. I confronted him about it in the livestreams and he shadowbanned me. I made a second account just to try and be a little more clever, but I was still too forward. He was shadowbanning everyone who seemed to know anything about him.
I made my own video shortly after, and I've always had a bone to pick with him. It's so evident that his argument was a smokescreen. I don't think he's a plant at all, I think he was trying to find a twisted way to cope with a twisted habit he had; looking at little girls. It just happened to work perfect for woke culture at the time, and is essentially the first stone tossed in "cancel culture" as we've seen it today.
I don't know, the two theories about Matt's motives both seem very fictional. His political standpoint is combined with publishing on and attacking one of the biggest companies of the world to come to the conclusion that he is motivated by political struggle in this personal battle. The second one is based on barely anything but the fact that the video upload happened at the same time as annual negotiations. Does not convince me, but the video is great!
21 likesThis video was absolutely insane to watch, as someone with no prior knowledge of this event happening. Thank you.
5 likesthis is basically like having a leak in your house, so you demolish your entire house down, demolish all the houses surrounding it, and then blame it on the government because it's their fault you have a leak.
1676 likesit's overkill and it's a complete 'scorched earth' tactic.
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Perfect analogy.
5 likesYou didn't watch the whole video before commenting, did you?
4 likesWelcome to left-wing politics.
11 likesRemember that one scene from "if the emperor had a TTS device"? the one with a guardsman finding a lewd image? Yeah that
3 likes@4nt Liberals aren't left wing. They're corporatists, which as stated in the video, is what Matt Watson likely was. That or a mercenary.
4 likesIt's basically blaming the murder on the knife or police.
0 likesAnd then the government rebuilds most of them, makes them all smaller, and charges more than necessary.
0 likes@engineer tf2 /not a spy\ up/down is referred to as authoritarian/libertarian respectively
0 likes@nuclearcatpotatoe HERESY! *BLAM*
0 likesBut muh home! disgusting people just care about having a roof over their head. Think about the leak in my room!
0 likesI’ve been subscribed to you since your YTP days. You’ve come a long way my friend. Keep up the good work.
11 likesI absolutely love these YouTube Geographic videos you make, along with any other documentary! It’s so strange that I would enjoy this over watching someone gaming or YouTube poops.
5 likesI've just rediscovered your channel man, such engaging and well structured videos. Keep it up!
3 likesMan I never heard the whole fallout from Matt's video and campaign. Thank you for putting so much damn effort into these videos! My favorite quote: "Stop trying to milk this for attention." Holy shit, that is just rich coming from Keemstar of all people.
17 likesAs Gman once said,
2835 likes“The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.”
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Jarl Kethesda so wake up mister freeman wake up and smell the ashes.
141 likesI bet the ashes where the misstakes
@Zaalt Naerthe how does this not have more likes!
1 likeDr. Freeeeeeemaaaaaan..
15 likesI realize this might not be the most convenient time for a.. heart-to-heart. But I had to wait until your friends were otherwise.. occupied..
@ጆ-ኮከብ Look Gordon! Ropes!
12 likesWe can use those to swing over large gaps!
12 likesThe most memorable thing gman has ever done was doubt that staving children exist.
1 likePesky Bird
2 likes*loud af train noise*
1 like@The Mine Well he certainly wasn't the right man.
2 likesI just played Half Life 2 ten minutes ago lol
1 like@RuffoPrime Rise and shine pesky bird, rise and shine. Not to imply that you have been AFKing on the hermitcraft server...
2 likes@DarnedEnd57 Help Me Gordon!
4 likesDogetheun black Messa
0 likesSo wake up, Mr. Watson.
0 likesmisssssterrrr freeeeman
0 likesPay attention, Mister Freeman... I'm only going to say this, once.
1 likeSo because the recommended algorithm is based on the videos you’ve been watching/searching... does this mean that Matt could have literally looked up and watched CP beforehand?
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try searching up some random video thats on a popular topic, like "health science" or whatever. in the recommended bar, you'll see maybe a few other health science videos, but you'll also see a lot of your regular recommended channels. you haven't gone into a "wormhole" of health science videos. Now, try going on a blank youtube account and searching "health science". suddenly you've gone into a "wormhole" of ONLY HEALTH SCIENCE VIDEOS! WOW, WHAT A SURPRISE. Matt acted like it was even more insane that he was able to get into the "wormhole" in a blank youtube account, but THATS THE ONLY REASON IT LOOKED LIKE A "WORMHOLE"
31 likes@Lyrawh Was it a blank channel was it not his original channel? You're right but I thought it was his original channel and assumed he had looked this up multiple times before
1 likeMatt wasn't a better leader, just a more effecitive communicator. In that his decisions, I don't believe were as well thought out as he did.
4 likesDude the script, speech and research is simply amazing. I enjoyed it so much, gonna see the full series for sure. Greetings from Spain!
3 likesI'm so happy I found this video and your channel in general. You are SO GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO.
1 likeThe most memorable thing about the situation a year ago was when Matt Watson from Supermega was confused as this dude so he was sent dozens of death threats
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When I first heard of everyone being mad at a Matt Watson I was so confused, because we all know how much of a good Christian boy he is. Then I found out about Matt "Mysterious Man" Watson.
217 likesDid Matt ever publicly react to all that? The true Matt Watson, I mean.
39 likes@CallanLoF I believe he did. I can't recall the exact video, but Ryan and him mentioned it briefly. Edit: I misremembered! It was actually just Matt, in the Official Podcast. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/rSQBVz5yCP4
72 likesAfter that on Twitter he literally called himself "Not that Matt Watson"
56 likesAlso hey Callan. Weird to see you here! Love your content
I was expecting him to bring him up as the real victim
35 likesAlso “Matt Watson? From Supermega?”
He’s a sweet boy and I’m glad he will be remembered as THE Matt Watson and not this dweeb.
13 likesHomestuck? In my 2020?
4 likes2 things I have to say:
4 likes1. Is that Matt Watson? From SuperMega?
2. THIS IS THE HOMESTUCK POLICE OPEN UP
I SPOT A H O M E S T U C K
2 likesyall, is homestuck^2 any good? im hesitant to read it after the horseshit that were the epilogues
homestuck will just follow me around, wherever i go, trying its very best to get me to point it out whenever i see it
2 likes@XchampionXFTW from what ive heard, if you dont like the epilogues, you should still try it, because it's different enough.
2 likes@XchampionXFTW Spot two, buddy.
1 likeHomestuck, so much homestuck
1 like@CallanLoF yea, I think in one of their podcast episoded they said it was the perfect reason for Matt to get verified (the vid was pre twitter verification)
3 likesbarfyman362 Thanks brother
0 likesMatt: Some youtubers may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make
5 likesIf there was porn in Matt's watch history I'd bet he'd say it's a glitch
62 likesThese videos are so insanely well put together. The delivery and editing go together like milk and cookies mmmmmmm
2 likesI used to watch matt when he was uploading the old self-help content now deleted from his channel. I used to enjoy his content because it had the feeling of a man who had good intentions and was documenting his efforts to improve his life, however the means he used were not always intuitive. Many of his videos pointed to him making overly emotional and impulsive decisions which hindered his improvement, such as following a creepy and uncomfortable programme to approach girls as a way to combat his social anxiety. This programme seemed to help his at first, but only hindered him in the long term.
4 likesMatt seemed to be trying to navigate the world without a map and would often fall off track before pulling himself back. I was very surprised to see his YouTube wake up video, though it did match his approach to many problems in his life, an irrational and overblown approach to a problem that could be solved in a much better way.
I don't think hes an industry plant, though idk for sure. In my opinion hes just a misguided man who wanted to do good but allowed his emotions to cloud his judgement.
I love the irony in Nestle pulling their ads for "child endangerment" when they use child slave labor in countries where that's legal.
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Oh wow
30 likesIt’s only bad when it’s the other companies, just like everyone sees themselves as the victim
98 likes@Riley Narayn soon...
10 likesnah that would be to curtoius, they do it where it's illegal too.
7 likes@z_derApfel "almost everywhere" wait what
6 likes@Hanan Aljaber Some african nations have no age of consent
22 likesIf their children are in danger then they can't get them to work as productively.
5 likesyou also watched the vid? good, 24:37 is where nestle is mentioned.
0 likeshe says that in the video
0 likes@Godot down with Capital.
1 likeits not even legal in those countries, but they do it regardless
2 likesGotta keep up appearances. Much like Canada not wanting to close the borders, while calling the people who suggested it "bigots".
1 like@Well, I'll be damned. Why are you comparing child slavery to a controversy about borders
5 likes@Miguel Laurito "Gotta keep up appearances."
0 likesWhen you understand context, you won't have so many daft questions throughout life.
@Sk0lzky I looooooove sugar. Love. Itah.
0 likesTo be fair, I'd rather child labor to child prostitution, which is the alternative in many less developed countries.
0 likes@Godot Like goodwill and every other charity and childrens hospital?
0 likesNestle also child labour in countries where it's not legal.
3 likesWhy Nestle isn't a "hate" group?
1 likeBruh moment
0 likesHypocrisy at its finest
0 likes@PizzaaPandaa child marriage is still legal in most of the U.S. too :(
0 likesComing back to this video and the Nerd City Testimony, made me once again think about his motivation.
0 likesI think Nerd City is right in assessment, that Matts driving force was a perceived righteous anger and that he rode an emotional high by exposing it and getting praised for it. Rage is a surprisingly addictive emotion.
While I dont think that Theory 1&2 were the true reason behind YTWakeup, they were motivations at the back of Matts mind, that made him resent YT already quite a bit.
Then he discovered his Wormhole and flew into a rage.
Rather than thinking rationaly on the best course of action, he acted impulsively and chose a destructive path.
Rather than focusing on protecting children, his main goal became to punish YT for letting it happen, partially motivated by his resentment.
That this wouldnt really help children, didnt cross his mind, and he dismissed that he would hurt many innocent Ytubers, because in his mind other Ytubers were the big channels that got more success than him.
Theory 3 just doesnt hold up, because of amateurish Matt is. However Advertisers were probably looking for another controversy and used YTWakeup as a convenient oppurtunity.
As more and more people turn against him on Livestream, the emotional high ends, he realizes that he screwed up and goes into hiding, instead of admitting to his mistakes.
I feel sorry for the REAL Matt Watson, Love you SuperMega
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Matt Watson?! From Supermega?!?!
0 likesi love how matt says that youtubes algorithms point people towards creepy child predation content but anyone who know how youtube works knows that your recommended videos are based on your viewing history and your subscriptions. meaning that matt was outing himself as a creep by doing this.
2 likesI really love seeing keemstar occasionally act like a real person, like a REASONABLE person. It just feels nice knowing he can be normal.
0 likesThis, Down the Rabbit Holes, and Internet Historian feel like detective dramas for people who like to get deep into the cheese with internet lore.
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Don't forget The Right Opinion.
62 likesTRO is nowhere near the level of emp, Historian, and frederik
76 likes@jonathan vamos Maybe not with internet stuff. Fred Knudsen, IH, Whang and WavyWebSurf, and Emp are bigger on internet lore, with Emp's reach extending to multiple topics with Never Ever, and more YT focused content with Youtube Geographic. I feel that TRO and j aubrey are more in the same, in focusing on only YT related drama and history (although j aubrey is more of a wildcard, with essays on Eric Andre, Jon Stewart, Kanye and, most recently, John McAfee).
51 likesAlso Whang! He covers the obscure internet history!
7 likes@scx izm lol, Emp doesn't even segment his videos puts way less work in than TRO clearly
6 likesI think its kinda different when it comes to Internet Historian, but eh
1 like@Jordan Clarke He does...this one is clearly segmented. Most of his Never Evers and YTGs are segmented, and mind you, TRO's editing skills can't match Emp's.
12 likesTRO is good, but from the technical standpoint, Emp takes it. I'd say TRO has the better scripting from the two, though.
@Jordan Clarke TRO once said if someone can create content and do it with less work more power to them. Emp and tro are both good but emp puts in less work and puts out as high quality
3 likes@Kalan Rodregue emp puts in more work. Tro has shitty still images of his shitty animated character, emp combines and samples many different clips to create interesting and entertaining visuals. Seems like more effort to me
8 likesInternet Historian is cringe and this is not up for debate
0 likes@Roddy Evans cringe take
6 likes@Dr.Spiral Internet Historian is NPC-tier content.
0 likes@Roddy Evans even worse take
6 likes@Dr.Spiral I'm sorry for your objectively bad opinion and wish you better content in the future.
0 likesI've been really liking these documentaries about YouTube n' such, keep it up man! Nice Work.
6 likesi love how critically this guy thinks. hes not just any old rational thinker, hes a rational thinker that successfully tells people what he thinks, he does a damn good job, and he doesnt get mad when people dont like him for it.
2 likesI spend so much time watching so many different channels this series is awesome. I could go for hundreds of these videos about any old channel, really. Super dope
2 likesthe smoking gun to me is the contrast between his reaction to advertisers pulling out and youtube addressing the controversy
16 likesyour channel in whole, the video essay format. its all super underrated. You deadass a great writer and this video is proof.
2 likesthis is one of the most well researched and well put together videos ive ever seen
1 likeI know I'm 7 months late but it's most likely a combination of a few things & not just one thing specifically. Personally I believe that Matt being a failed YouTuber combined with his political ideology were at least the 2 biggest factors. The advertisers benefiting was just them being scavengers
4 likesDepending on how long this was planned for, the political aspect is interesting. It could act as a red herring, "oh he's just a political moron" and stop anyone from looking deeper.
1 likemy dude was just looking at little girl videos, got caught, and had to pretend it was for research
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HAHAHAA
184 likesProbably close to the truth
609 likesOh shit so that's what happened
127 likesThat was my theory as well. But I think he's on to something with that corporate shill bit
202 likesJust like Pete Townshend
22 likesNot the first time that happened
9 likesoyyyyyyy veeeyyyyyyyy!
13 likesUhh did you even watch the video? Hes clearly just a corporate shill smh
10 likesThis seems too close lol
0 likes@High Definition shortly before The Who played the superbowl he was caught and used the "research" defense to quash it, no one really talks about it.
15 likesWhere is Zelda slow run, baka?!
2 likesLOL
0 likesBruuuuhhhhhhh
0 likesImmaLittlePip “useful political idiot”
1 likeNever heard of something like that before
B R U H
0 likesMy favourite “black man”.
1 likeTo be fair... Your dude wasn't lying...
0 likesThe simplest answer but probably the closest to the truth.
1 like@Jose Law Wait really?
0 likesTo go so big and public with it wouldn’t make sense though
0 likes@Zulfburht Perhaps he worked at a competitor to YouTube and when caught he said "Uh this is just research for my plan to uh to uh get big advertisers off of YouTube!" and then had to go along with the idea so he wouldn't be exposed
2 likes@Jose Law thanks ancapdolf hidler. Love your speeches man
0 likesEmptyHero why did he initially even click on the gymnastics video 🤔🤔🤔
0 likesI doubt this theory
0 likeslmao
0 likesLmaOo
0 likesEyy
0 likesYou made me laugh out loud in public and people asked me what was so funny. Well said, friend.
0 likes@GFM out loid
1 like@SmashFanx Oh! Thank you very much, I corrected it. Much obliged!
0 likes@GFM ur welcome
1 likeEmptyHero didn't kill himself
0 likesI still can't find a video or reson why or how he '' stumbled'' on these videos
1 likeThat would explain how he found a year-old French hashtag.
1 likethis is like the theory of how Mary invented Christianity to make an excuse of her pregnancy
0 likesDude your book is fricking kino
0 likesMy thoughts exactly
0 likes@GFM must've been very fun, stumbling over avoiding the explanation that'd boil down to "I'm laughing at a joke about a guy looking at cp, haha".
0 likesIt's definitely weird he thought the FBI would go after him even though they'd be the first people to report this to along with youtube.
0 likes@Shamus Townshend was abused as a child and was researching for his autobiography.
0 likesI’m pretty sure it’s been proven he didn’t look at anything and just used a credit card. another thing, it’s been said he was trying to see if it was real
This SEEMS to be happening again in 2022. We'll see how it pans out, though.
22 likesEverytime I hear that youtube right wing bullshit I laugh, youtube does the exact same thing for radical left wing content, its just the vast majority of youtubers, companies, and institutions act left wing, because thats where the cultural idea of “cool” and “rebellious” is right now. We can do it and its not bad so no shit Its only a problem when the other side does it
15 likesI doubt you'd ever see this, but I really appreciate your use of GT music in your videos, and ofc the hard work. Thanks Emp, your videos are something else
1 like49:20 I'm into ARG web series: long serial narratives that use social media (often a mix of YT and Twitter) as their storytelling medium and the involved accounts fully stay in-character (as if they were actual posts from an alternative reality). I've seen multiple cases where they used YouTube channels that already existed. Reusing an existing but obscure channel is good because it can give the character a sense of realness. Especially if the character has the same name as the actor. So that's not a detriment at all. even if the old content is controversial, that's just a free red herring!
3 likesthe fact that his true identity has never been revealed by someone who knows him irl despite showing his face, makes me question if his entire person was some kind of experiment. maybe the older videos are there for a back story to throw people off of him being a fabrication. sounds crazy but not impossible
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I think you're looking into this a bit too much
41 likesUmi ZoomR that’s what he wants you to think
108 likesBig Corp is behind the life of a millennial man, they created it, like The Truman Show but for shilling companies fully knowing that's his purpose
11 likesStrange....
18 likesWhat would youtube itself have to gain by losing a massive chunk of it's own creators after losing several advertisers? Are the rumors true that YouTube heavily favors left-wing politics, and that left-aligned and neutral channels tend to get easier sponsorship deals (making ad rev less important)?
Is it true that "Matt" likes buzzfeed but doesn't like Fox news? Why?Could this be a political actor launching an attack on youtube to eliminate a good chunk of conservative voices? Was there a politically-motivated "adpocalypse" before this? After?
What is the emotional selling point of SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, and the EARNIT Act? Why must we always "think of the children"? If we are thinking of the children, what other thoughts must we stop thinking?
Could this actor be an employee or working in corroboration with YouTube itself or it's political allies? What about working for a political candidate past, present, or future-proof? How quickly did the advertisers come back? Were there any that never came back?
Is it possible that the rabbits hole goes even further down?
2 choices: red pill... this is the bottom of the rabbit hole. You will be blissfully unaware of anything else at play
Black pill: you keep digging until you find the ultimate truth, and nothing more.
@Umi ZoomR "I think you're looking into this a bit too much" So you didn't watch this video?
5 likesIf he showed his face for all the world to see, sooner or later, he's gonna be spotted by someone who knew him for what he did. In order to hide himself, he scrubbed his social media presence clean, whether it's reddit, facebook or youtube. He probably uses a VPN to prevent tracking or doxxing. His name probably was a psuedonym, so it's no problem at all if his persona is an equivalent to a throwaway e-mail account, so his personal info would not be affected.
15 likesHe probably did everything he can to change his appearance, maybe get a new hairstyle, peircings, plastic surgery, change of clothes just to blend in with the crowd.
He probably would get a mundane job where people would recoginize him less or cater to an older demographic, such as a blue-collar job, or being a Uber driver. The less facial exposure, the better.
If his presence is just a persona, then all his actions, speech patterns, and expressions would be very different, or akin to his actual person. If he wanted to be kept hidden, then he should watch what he says, thus decreasing his risk to be recognized.
Anything can happen if someone wanted a quiet life.
My theory is that his chanel was designed to be a scumbag chanel to cause a panick (he was supposed to be a fall guy for a narrative) but then his chanel was repurposed when nobody saw his videos. It makes more sense. if they were ti point to his content to sanitize the platform people would laugh at his low sub count.
10 likeswoah like the episode of community with the subway dude
1 likeI like how the fabrication of the whole channel sounds like, I would also add a theory that he was already working white collar job at the company that has relations towards the ad distribution, so that it would make more sence they would pick one of their workers to do the job at inflaming mass hystria who already has YouTube presence so that it wouldn't look too fabricated, and also hides his real persona so that the company won't get busted the moment someone finds out who Matt really is and who he is connected to. Sounds conspiritorical but at least fun to brainstorm at
6 likesI'm just imagining that Matt is just some god tier level 3D modeler that uses said model to hide his face, And he made this whole controversy to show off his talent to random people on the internet
4 likesChronicle Zombie we're actually a few yrs away from that guy
0 likesHe used to make videos about nofap. That’s all. He had like maybe 5,000 subs or something like that. He deleted all of those vids on his first channel before he started this weird campaign. His second channel was just humor related to his first channel making fun of the porn industry or stuff like that. The second channel is the one that you can still go look at the old videos.
2 likesHow has this man not been Doxxed..... How did 4chan not catch this man. Those fuckers managed to find Shia Lebuff hiding in some empty house in the middle of nowhere and sent his pizzas...... How could Matt Watson be the real life equivalent of Frank "Gorland" from the fucking Bioshock Series
4 likesI don’t know his true identity per say, but through several videos of his I can clearly identify that he lives (or once lived) in Victoria, BC, Canada.
0 likesSource: I once travelled there to visit my friends and I’ve been to most of these landmarks that were featured in Matt’s pre-YTWU videos.
Some type of crazy add ARG
0 likesTbh this strikes me as not premeditated but impulsive. Matt probably thought he'd ride in like a hero, saving the kids and getting clout. But he wasn't prepared for any fallback and took even good faith critisism personally
4 likesWhen I was a kid there was a couple month span of time when our one and only TV was on the way out, the tint was all messed up and I remember watching a lot of Green Simpsons. Your videos often remind me of that.
3 likesWhy does it feel in his live-streams that he’s constantly looking at a script?
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That was my impression as well. and he only seemed to go "off script" when replying to people. Not an exact script per say, but rather a loose set of notes for him to go off of. It's really suspicious.
21 likesHe was reading comments from the stream
6 likeswow what a cool thumbnail, i do wonder the creative process behind such a simplistic yet meaningful piece of art that not only is my first gateway into the content of the video it also makes me want to know more about the youtuber and possibly check out other videos
1 likeThis guy basically nuked a bank just to kill the robber.
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Designed I feel like it’s more like throwing a 100 pound bomb as nuke implies that the bank no longer exist
207 likesI'd compare it to an AC-130, personally.
70 likesPretty much.
18 likesand missed
65 likeshe nuked the whole town
30 likesWithout knowing whether the robber was in the bank at the time
59 likes@Snack and he shot again, and he missed, and then he missed again
24 likesThats a really good analogy
13 likesexcept the bank only got a few cracks in it but all the innocent people just trying to deposit some money were killed
13 likesPerfect analogy.
10 likesI found out about the controversy through this documentary. I love watching Youtube and I’m not sure how I missed this going on.
But I agree. I feel like he was looking for a good reason to nuke said bank.
except the nuke failed to explode, other than a couple of heart attacks in the ensuing chaos and some destroyed furniture and a couple of broken bones from the stampeding crowd, nothing much was really damaged or lost other than the reputation of the security of said bank
10 likesNice analogy
0 likesThis guy nuked a bank to kill a robber the bank was shooting down anyway.
3 likesAnd didn't even celebrate the nuke explosion.
1 likeand the robber was just some guy wearing a mask
1 likeAlso while the robber is in a fallout shelter miles away.
2 likesThe robber still alive, it just changed identity.
1 likeMore like nuking the bank, then scolding tellers for complaining
0 likesThis is a bit of a overstatement on what happened.
1 likeIt's closer to the police burning all the money so that the robber cant steal it.
@King Kong the cockroaches would piss me off.
0 likesI'd say more like dumping a chlorine bomb into the bank because a rat snuck in and picked up a quarter.
0 likesnah its more like calling an anonymous bomb threat on a mall because he caught somebody watching children in the toilets.
1 likeChaotic good
0 likesThat would be based tho
0 likesToo selfless to describe what he did
0 likesMore like "he always want to nuked the bank, but using robbery as an excuse to do so"
0 likesI Couldent have said it better
0 likesHe used an anti tank rocket launcher kill a spider
0 likesAlternatively he released a giant monster on an entire City to get that one particular loiterer
Who only ended up being hospitalized for a week
0 likesWhen in reality he really just wanted to nuke the bank
0 likesPulled a full MacArthur vs Korean war
0 likesYa
0 likes@Predator 20357 well, yeah
0 likesYep.
0 likesBasically the opening with Wonderwoman in Zack Snyder's JL...
0 likesThat bomb scene, which I think is also a bank!
I like that you included a viewer in the chat asking Matt to post the Reddit link before showing the clip of him saying "here's the post, upvote it." Doesn't make much of a difference over the greater narrative, but it was honest :)
3 likesI dont think that a company having one guy on payroll who once had a youtube-channel go and cause a drama on youtube is hard to believe, there would only be a few people who need to sign NDAs to keep such a operation secret
4 likes"Think of the children" if you're trying to pass off lies is the best way to mobilize useful idiots
6 likesEven tough I may disagree with your stance, I think this was a really great video! Wonderful story-telling :)
3 likesThe holes in the last theory can be filled quite easily: Matt Watson was always an alias just because he didn't want to use his real name online to begin with; he was specifically selected by advertisers because they wanted someone small and untraceable, but also with an account that had existed previously so as to not arouse suspicion.
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not a bad point, if that theory is true I wonder which company (or companies) most likely did it.
41 likesIdk, there a lot of small time untracable youtubers who have far less... questionable content, I.E the totally uncreative channel, any company can see that kind of liability a mile away. IDK, i guess its just the corporate plant theory seems a little too farfetched for me.
61 likes@That Guy Probably the first to pull out of advertisement to gain a kind of public trust
4 likesMrHatoi it would make sense especially because of his previous content pandering to certain tastes that also inhabit a large chunk of Reddit, meaning it would only help him get more upvotes and support and would make people think “this weirdo is a regular guy” which has worked pretty well so far, then just pay him a lot of money and boom, a man who never really existed disappears!
20 likes@That Guy ad agencies becuase they would still get the same butget but the "20% off pedo discount code" would give them a larger cut of the same budget.
1 likealso they dont give a flying fuck what the guys backround is becuase they probably used shell or umbrella companies . futhermore, the guy was disposable and thye knew it. thus theory leads alot of creadence.
5 likesReminds me of how the Chinese government payed bart baker to move their and produce pro-government propaganda for them lmao.
3 likesI believe that if Matt was a corporate shill, he was chosen because he was a failed YouTuber who was desperate enough to take the companies up on their offer. They knew his older videos would get him in trouble eventually, so they saw him as a patsy who would take the fall for it.
5 likesBesides, the "past content" of a small creator plays no big role here, given how the hit and run strategy worked
2 likesi believe he was an anarchist, who went bored, so he decided to try and ruin youtube. no moral reasoning, no logic, just anarchy and hate.
1 likeMartin Rebro thats a p bad understanding of that ideology lol
2 likes@Than Os My guess is whoever the HR manager in [GENERIC BUZZFEED CLONE] found his mocking of other weird people funny and prolly gave other dreary middle managers at Sleeping Giants that this guy needs to be promoted hard.
1 likeI think not, I was on the subscribers os his Channel, he did a series in Nofap, Very emotional and personal about himself. All of this come to me as a surprise, his content Just made a complete shift and such a big impact in the youtube community from nowhere, IDK, YouTube recommend me the Channel soo.
0 likessure, you can fill these theory holes with whatever you want, but what matters is whether the filling is backed up by real proof, so it's better to wait for more high quality theory fillers
0 likesAlessandro Lira but that questionable content doesn’t matter, as if the theory is correct then the company or group who hired him wouldn’t have any connection to him anyway. Him having this content only makes him more believable in the eye of the public. Even now people don’t think he is a hired instigator.
1 likeAnd he probably hated his old content and was trying to get a non-youtube career
0 likes@Than Os questionable content is the perfect misdirection and cover up. We stop at "dude was a creep lmao" and don't look any further.
0 likes@Than Os i guess the real thing is that he was untraceable.
0 likesso if the theory is true, they contacted him because he was perfectly anonymous, made a deal, he did the video, then the media bandwagoned on it because they were part of it and the controversy starts.
there's two possibilities:
-first he was acting and everything he did was fake, then vanish.
-second, the companies profited from his thirst for clout, and as long as he wasn't compromising this anonymity, he was free to say or do whatever he wanted for as long as he felt (or for a predetermined time), because whatever happened to him wouldn't matter anyway. so he streamed, got his fun, then Keem ruined his high so he stopped and disappeared, finishing the last part of the deal and taking his paycheck, mission accomplished.
@Lollikaboss [o.W.n] that's not how anarchists think nor what they care about.
0 likesThe guy basically said "The Principal is abusing kids so shit down the entire school district! All you teachers complaining about job loss just don't care enough about child abuse!"
8 likesI hope you continue to do more videos like this, and the never will there be another hungry box video are really interesting. Great job! Subscribed
0 likesMan I am inspired by how much information/research and effort is displayed in 'bits' that last literally less than a second. Fucking slow clap. 10/10
2 likesI love how he says to hit youtube in the wallet meanwhile for years youtube has been on google life support because they don't make enough money to keep the site up
3 likesScene Selection:
387 likes0:00: Opening
1:52: Exhibit A: Who is Matt Watson?
2:54: Exhibit B: Matt's Wormhole of Deception
10:14: Exhibit C: The Strange Agenda
16:25: Exhibit D: The Red Tide
19:14: Exhibit E: Outspoken, yet silent...
24:16: Exhibit F: Corporations 4 Kidz?
26:05: Exhibit G: I miss the old Matt...
28:47: Exhibit H: We did it, Matt! We saved the city!
30:26: And now, a short intermission...
32:06: The Mainstream Narrative
33:19: Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue
36:58: The Bernie Pipeline
42:25: Matt Watson is an Industry Plant: Part 1
47:17: Matt Watson is an Industry Plant: Part 2
50:00: Conclusions.
54:36: Credits
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SC-01 Productions THANK YOU!
7 likesYour a god
5 likesLords work
4 likesMany thanks for the DVD main menu
8 likesEmp, PLEASE PIN THIS.
5 likes@hardlybreathe Where are the special features?
2 likesDude, you are fantastic at story-telling. How the hell do you do it?
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He is really good at writing essays
2 likesi feel the explanation is a mixture of your 1st and 3rd proposals, in which Matt failed as a youtuber, wanted revenge, and thus teamed up with the corporations to give his "revenge" a boost.
4 likesMy theory: Matt is just an angry narcissist who wanted to present themselves as a savior of the internet, didn't expect the video to take off, and thus didn't go through any of the trouble of justifying his initial rhetoric or contacting news agencies for interviews
2 likestheory: Matt, via a relative or mutual friend or something, had a connection to the corporations that temporarily pulled ads. He approached THEM with the idea to create an adpocalypse to hurt the commentary channels he despised, and they helped him in order to get better prices on ads.
1 likeOne of my favorite things about EmpLemon is the super unique editing style. It’s very appealing to people who’ve used Youtube since the early 2010s.
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lustylion I agree.
3 likesI wasn't really part of the "Youtube community" in the 2010s, but I agree.
0 likesI just love the reacquiring themes and graphics
3 likesHigh quality documentary on a massive event that sent YouTube once again to shit. Here's hoping for a dislike button documentary
3 likesif the rogue youtuber theory is true, it makes me really sad that his plan failed so miserably.
6 likesConsidering how almost everybody is removed roughly 6 people from everyone else on the planet: it should be possible to track down who this guy really is and potentially figure out the motive.
1 likeThis issue has been on the site since before 2010. Disgusting people upload these videos of children in various states of dress while following a naming convention to help others find them. To this day, it is still a problem that hasn't been fixed and some of the videos that have been reported are over 5 years old. It's a real problem that hasn't been fixed.
1 likeThis is why skepticism is a virtue not a hindrance. You need to look at things like this with an analytical eye to make sure you don’t cause more harm than good
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Basically think before you get outraged and complain.
15 likesAnd yet again I find you in the comments
0 likesAnd you need the humility to question your own opinions
12 likesSayari Mamani something many people now a days don’t have
7 likesMatt posted on his community tab a month ago about this topic. He didn’t explain much but goes into the topic.
6 likesmy guess is that he likely at some point lost the motivation to make stuff, and then at some point after coming across these creepy videos regained it. He had a clear vision for how the video would go and what would result from it, and basically convinced himself that his way was the only way. And then once he realised he'd kinda messed up, he just left.
0 likesEmpLemon, I would like to translate your videos for free obviously using my voice in order for you to get more public, I could translate them to Spanish because I think you deserve way more views, the quality of your content is amazing and it would be awesome for people who doesn't speak English to be able of seeing your amazing content! Also I could make subtitles if you want!
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If you do subtitles it would probably be more than enough
28 likesDo it soon, because community captions are going away after a little bit.
9 likesAl final lo hiciste bro? si algo te ayudo
1 likeNo
2 likes@roxane wolf ur not emp
1 like40:00 I love hearing Boards of Canada pop up at random because their music is truly like the soundtrack to bizarre conspiracies. Anyway, I initially thought he must be some sort of corporate shill but so many theories seem plausible in some way.
3 likesI hate how he tries to frame it as "muh monetization"
1467 likes"They care more about money"
If you came to my job and lit the building ablaze, I'd be very reasonably upset.
He threatened people's JOBS doing what he did.
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After acknowledging them as jobs then discrediting them as jobs
106 likesBrainlet: “Hurr durr just be an Uber Driver”
49 likesDoom58 Even if that is the case, it would be frustrating and selfish to harm the creators who do actually put effort into their videos, like animators and such.
32 likesI mean, if you want to burn down my work, I won't stop you. I get severance pay.
15 likesYoutubers don't, though.
I can believe the ‘failed youtuber’ theory only cause what person invests that much into advertisers going away? an bitter fool.
5 likesYouTube monetization is a privilege,not a right.
2 likesan anarchist, he cared not for others, he wanted to turn a candle into australia
0 likesI mean YouTube is stupid
0 likes@hangsight. More likely he's one of those who is so desperate to try and deplatform people he dislikes that any collateral damage means is an acceptable outcome as long as [INSERT POPULAR FIGURE BREADTUBERS HATE] gets removed. Of course, I think he's a man working in the NYC media scene just because he has that vibe of a man who really does believe that Gamergate caused Donald Trump to be the president.
1 likeOr maybe he’s in the Illuminati? He did only one job and bail cause there was nothingness when the purpose’s done it’s deed. Another person would keep being an nuisance on the site and had video after video made on him to keep the attention going.
0 likesI’m only half joking but it’s something to keep in mind as well. WORMHOLES
@Triple A I mean it did lol
0 likes@Diversity Deliverer That's not anarchism
1 like@LJK401 I didn't say anything about anarchism...
0 likes*"They care more about their own food and shelter than trying to become vigilantes going after random underground creeps." It's basically some paladin syndrome shit.
1 like@Deadliest Vice Sssh, these guys only like capitalism when it suits them
0 likesThis was a cool video. Not what I expected. I liked it. Hope you keep doing these
1 likeThe portion of this video which talked about "hitting them where it hurt - in their wallet" is scarily similar to the justification rioters use when they loot stores and destroy businesses. I asked a friend who supported rioters, "why do people riot?" and he said it was "because the government doesn't care about the people and they only care about money" which is the same logic Matt used against YouTube when he said "YouTube doesn't care about these issues, they only care about money." History tends to repeat itself in new and separate forms.
70 likesYou know sometimes you just got to spend a couple hours watching dudes remove wasps from shittily repaired houses. And murmur to yourself.
2 likesBeing an adult is awesome.
It. Definitely seems like he had a vendetta on YouTube as a whole, but at the same knew how to pull some strings.
16 likesHe’s definitely got a manipulative side to him. But also seems to have a very impulsive, and attention seeking side. He doesn’t seem to have much consistency in his motives either. I’m getting some slight adhd vibes or some sort of disorder vibes from him.
For being so able to get such a public outcry so fast, yet to be willing to stream himself reacting live to the situations unfolding. Clearly isn’t the smartest move. Especially since someone in his situation should be more concerned about interacting with the media.
Seems to me that by using his knowledge of the site, and from analyzing previous YouTube dark ages. He found an reasonable excuse to get the public outraged enough to cause mass hysteria, of which he was able to coax the public into doing his dirty work. Relying heavily on the public’s ignorance of the site. However why he wanted to make everyone suffer is still unknown. However it definitely sounds and looks like he wanted any attention he could get. Especially in the moment. However for him to disappear without barely any trace. Was more then likely a way to conceal himself from any possible backlash.
I always thought of this guy as the most extreme manifestation of the atmosphere of hostility against YT management among the YouTube community at the time, but taken to a ridiculously irrational and self-destructive level. Though I think it's clear now that there was something more going on.
198 likesI think Matt fails to realize EVERY online platform has predators of some type on them.
1 likei think one of the most important questions posed is why matt was more excited about brands pulling ads than youtube addressing the problem. why was matt's focus on brands and not youtube? super interesting shit that we will prob never know the answer to.
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Because his ideology made him hate YouTube, not empathize with victims. It was about hate for the 'offender', not love for the victim. So all he really cared about was hurting YouTube, not about the kids being saved. That's why he liked the Adpocolypse.
2 likesIt’s so weird for me to go down this rabbit hole because I never indulge in conspiracy theories. But I believe that he was a corporate agent. The fact that no one can find any social media (even personal) confirms it for me. I think that in his personal life, “Matt” works for one of those corporations like Disney or Nestle and had done YouTube on the side. When the new year came around that’s when he was tasked with causing this fiasco and then to disappear without a trace. I also believe he wasn’t working alone considering the inconsistencies.
6 likesYouTube geographic is maybe one of the most important historical archives on the platform
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Its not even an archive. It's a documentary
0 likesIf I put myself in his shoes, my first thought is that he was trying to manipulate the stock market. For each advertiser who pulled ads he was super happy, this supports my theory because advertisers pulling support could trigger investors to sell, lowering the stock price. He could then simply short sell google or trade options or something to make money off the stock dropping.
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The strangest thing about this whole controversy is his disappearance from the Internet and the lack of information about him.
1 likeDespite matts motives and all I think platforms are absollutely responsible for this stuff. Especially if they generate billions in revenue. I think yt could do a lot by just hiring people who actively search for this shit (idk). They shouldn't be allowed to take a penny in profits before ending this.
1 likeGreat video. This one together with Leafy story are very entertaining and well produced. Nice combination of classical Music such as Tchaikovsky "Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy" and The Doors covers. Really adds more flavour to this mystery atmosphere.
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Whiskey Bar sets the mood perfectly.
0 likesWhat an amazing video, certainly worth an hour!
1 likeYour series like "Never Ever" or "Youtube Geographic" is such a great content to watch, thanks for your work <3
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True
2 likesThis is really unrelated to the video but I just realized that most of the music EmpLemon uses in his videos is the stuff I used to listen to all the time during High School. Never thought I'd feel nostalgia from this.
3 likesThis is still one of the best videos on the whole site
3 likesim still astonished how one man could nearly destroy an entire arm of google
6 likesMatt Wattson: The Antagonist Of YouTube
“Trust me, these companies care about us”
642 likesHa
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“The sky is purple”
32 likes"in other news water is not wet, and stone is the best material for a pillow"
29 likes@Equidistant Honeyjoy except water isn’t wet
3 likes@okay Touch water, mate. Feels pretty wet.
8 likes@Equidistant Honeyjoy wetness is defined by containing, covering or soaked with water. water does not contain itself, it takes the shape of other things that contains it, therefore the thing that contains it would be wet and not water itself. water is not “soaked” with itself, and water does not cover itself.
2 likesto put it simply, water makes things wet but is not wet itself. Wetness is characterized by how much water is on it and since water is generally a liquid water cannot be wet. Is lava burnt?
@Equidistant Honeyjoy is fire burnt?
2 likes@Equidistant Honeyjoy It’s a semantic argument that only comes together when you look at the deeper meaning therefore water isn’t wet
3 likes@okay On what earth is water not covering itself? You have a potential philosophical argument if it's a single molecule of water, but a body of water is absolutely covered in water.
1 likeLava may be burnt, if it's on fire, but it isn't always.
@okay Yes, and I would only say otherwise if you could ever show me a fire that isn't made with burning materials.
1 like@okay It's a semantic argument that completely falls apart when you include the entire definition of 'wet' instead of intentionally leaving out a part. An object is wet when it is saturated with water, and saturation is defined as 'holding as much as can be absorbed'; meaning not only is water wet, but it is the wettest that something can be.
8 likesAlso, please no broken up replies. It's annoying to read, and I've replied three times so you can hopefully see how annoying it is.
@okay s t o p
2 likes@Equidistant Honeyjoy if you look at how molecules are arranged they are not covered but rather interconnected
1 like@okay In that case, nothing is ever wet. It's semantics.
1 like@Equidistant Honeyjoy can’t cover something liquid in itself covering is more of a physical property. if you cover something with paper then that’s covering it but covering something with a liquid makes no sense even if it’s oil
1 like@ᴍʀ ꜱᴍɪʟʏ there’s two here
1 like@okay so waters dry
0 likes@D He wins
0 likesTime Stamps!
501 likesEXHIBIT A: Who is Matt Watson? 1:52
EXHIBIT B: Matt’s Wormhole of Deception 2:55
EXHIBIT C: The Strange Agenda 10:14
EXHIBIT D: The Red Tide 16:25
EXHIBIT E: Outspoken, yet silent... 19:14
EXHIBIT F: Corporations 4 Kidz? 24:17
EXHIBIT G: I miss the old Matt... 26:05
EXHIBIT H: We did it Matt! We saved the city! 28:48
Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue: 33:19
The Bernie Pipeline: 36:59
Matt Watson is an Industry Plant 42:25
Conclusions 49:59
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ElectronicWaffles thanks based catman, very cool
4 likesBut were is the Furry genocide???
5 likesElectronicWaffles thank you. very cool.
2 likesJakeSpacePirate que
1 likeThank u electronic waffles
1 likeYou do the Lord's work.
1 like@Jody Bruchon he angel
0 likes@ElecWaffles que??
0 likesTheory: Matt was paid to do it, or he went to work at an advertising oriented company
4 likesWhenever Matt gets angry, he looks like he's about to have stroke.
51 likesI love your videos my dude, keep it up!
0 likestfw trying to bankrupt a 170 billion dollar company through making them miss out on a couple ads somehow doesn't work
8 likesThis guy is the very pinnacle of virtue-signalling, hell, in a way he's also part of the problem because his thumbnail is LITERALLY a kid with revealing clothing. When you're click-baiting that hard, you have no room to call anyone else exploitative and greedy.
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I mean he frequents chaptraphouse a subreddit full of tankies and commies. So the farthest Left you can go, its akin to The_Donald, but worse because its not quarantine and it spills over to other subreddits.
33 likesVirtue signaling in a comment section for likes does not make you better.
3 likes@GOINGGODMODE oh yeah, likes. Wait, what can I buy with likes?
9 likes@GOINGGODMODE Except I was more pointing out that he's a hypocrite who hurt YouTubers in order to protect children which is kind of undone by his own thumbnail. Also, I could say the same thing about you, especially since you directly brought up likes when I didn't until now.
17 likesOvenBaked Pancakes
5 likesVirtue signaling in a reply thread doesn’t make it any better.
@MiiTRI dopamine.
1 likeHey Emp, Matt recently posted on his reddit again. He says he regrets some of the things he has done and was asked if he heard about you. He says he has not heard of you but HAS seen people accusing him of being a corporate puppet. Go check it out for further info.
0 likesLove him or hate him, he still brought attention to the subject
1 likeGreat video one small thing you had gotten wrong was that people under 16 can’t direct message but they can talk to people through comments but those are public. Love the video.
0 likesGreat video one small thing you had gotten wrong was that people under 16 can’t direct message but they can talk to people through comments but those are public. Love the video.
0 likesTangentially related but the section about how he got his video on reddit was particularly infuriating to me since I had a video that organically got 80k upvotes on r/videos, but it was removed by the mods because my channel had be blacklisted for supposedly posting my own content on the subreddit years prior.
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this is GLINK
20 likesAwesome
2 likesReddit moment
172 likesOk
6 likesWoah glink with brim!!!
0 likesHIIIIIIII!!!!
I feel This situation can be applied to the current coronavirus pandemic
4 likesUnsurprising, after all that is Reddit
81 likes@Cooper The more internet and reality merge the lamer both get.
39 likesI really do miss the "good 'ol days" Aside from being a 'nerd' being something that'd get your ass kicked. >__>
reddit is redditarded
11 likesbig chungus moment
2 likesAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHA
0 likesYou have my sympathies, Glink
1 likeRedditor
1 likeWhy do you want reddit users watching your content anyway. Do you really want r/wooosh as a reply to every comment in your comment section.
14 likesGlink, emplemon theyre all salty xD
0 likesThis matt Dude was awesome
Reddit had a normal one then
0 likesPretty cringe dude
0 likes@Dangle Blampy 4🤩
0 likesLol reddit mods
1 likeTwo things:
0 likes1. What was your removed video about?
And 2. Regarding YouTube Wake Up, I would argue Industry Plant is the most likely explanation because of the media coverage, and it’s possible that he was a disgruntled YouTuber who was paid more money by industry insiders than he thought he could have made through ad revenue making videos.
What do you think?
It's fair to say that Emp is the storyteller of youtube, picking up the pieces from the former battleground and rearranging the scene to explain how it all happened.
0 likesThis isn’t a “YouTube” Phenomenon in terms of the seeming inability To contact any person associated with the platform, it’s evident in many new platforms, some Financial. If you’ve got an issue; you aren’t going to be able to talk to anyone and the only help you’ll get is a QA page…
1 likeThis video was more compelling and interesting than most of the bs coming out of Hollywood
0 likesGreat video. I don't completely buy any of the theories presented; I think he was a misguided idiot who thought he was fighting child exploitation, and who was maybe hoping to capitalize on the outrage to reboot his channel. I think that the amount of circlejerking that occurred both online and in the media made him feel uncomfortable with the type and amount of attention he was getting and made him decide to just not bother, or not follow through. Having Youtube permit sexual comments under videos of kids was kind of fucked up, and outrage at YouTube would be understandable if your perspective lacked nuance. I think he was just largely ignorant of the collateral damage he was causing and when that was called to his attention he responded with hostility because that's a natural defense mechanism for a lot of people.
0 likesFor example, I once had a guy put his car in R for race mode in front of me at a traffic light, and his first reaction was to get extremely angry at me, despite that he was obviously 100% to blame. Hostility is a defense mechanism for some because nobody wants to accept that they have made a mistake, and anger and blame shifting gives them a way to suppress having to accept their own fuck up.
Thank you so much for the ad placement,cabt explain how much that means and how useful and versatile it makes the video
1 likeI remember seeing this and being super suspicious of it. Decided it was probably a hoax
0 likesThis was an excellent video, thank you.
0 likesThe fact that he didnt win an oscar for his performance is baffling, hollywood is a joke
2 likesTbh when I was little my mum told me all about pedos & their habits (on the web). I was staying away from strangers, mining my own business on the platform (and anywhere else) in it's early days.
963 likesImo it's not YouTube's responsability to regulate smth like this, it's the parents.
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@Ryan Criddle they already do hold some. mostly because of some content creaters target locking for youtube.
22 likesThis is BS. Not everyone has the privilege of a stable and supportive family.
8 likes@Nobody Important that's not really YT's fault, tho. or their responsibility to fix
33 likesAgreed, Youtube is not meant to be a daycare.
6 likesThat's reliant on if the kids listen to you lol
0 likesThey all are guilty, the parent for not educate, the platform for not be more responsible, the predator, for obvious reasons
3 likes@Ryan Criddle It's basically adults watching kids do sports. to a normal person there's nothing there. to maladjusted ones it's sexualized. How should Youtube know the difference when a normal person wouldn't even think like that? And why should the censor people's expression when they probably generally weren't trying to make content like that?
16 likesSome of it was probably kids making content because they wanted to see themselves on YT.
It's gross but you can't stop people from being creepy. And most of the content isn't illegal in any fashion.
@s4juliette I understand this issue is old news now but like
5 likesI can create horrible things with legos
thats not legos fault
@s4juliette They have a social responsibility to try and limit the amount of damage possible. It is either Youtube does it or a regulatory body will try to step in like is done with just about every other medium of entertainment.
1 likeThere's a looooooooooooong history of parents wanting to blame anything but themselves. KMFDM, Rammstein, and Marilyn Manson are responsible for school shootings. Video games cause violence. Rap causes homophobia and sexism. Et cetera.
12 likesMedia is a reflection of society; and if a media source is a bad father figure it's far more likely that it's because the creator had no father figure than because the creator was influenced by the devil.
yup. true. but entitled, lazy parents that refuse to take responsibility of their offspring will never accept it. everyone has to censor everything and themselves just because they decided to pro-create and can't be bothered to curate what their children consume themselves.
5 likesyes, but what if you don't have parents, and their guardians lack the time to teach the children "YouTube Advice"?
2 likesI think youtube should be held accountable like a newspaper of what allows to publish or not.
1 likeSure videos would lad some minutes (especially in new, unkown channels) but who cares?
The hands off approach and hand washing youtube does is too much in my opinion and they will always do it because they can.
parents can tell their children what to stay away from but youtube can get rid of the problem almost entirely
0 likesThe "hired agent" theory is entirely pointless considering you already established his motive and history as an angry leftist who regularly attacked reddit advertisers before. There really seems to be no ambiguity about this
2 likesI find it weird that people didn’t question this when it was going on. I wasn’t really participating in this but quite honestly the mannerisms of Matt made it pretty obvious he was lying. Like in the stream, he said “just admit it, you’re salty”? I’ve only ever heard that from 9 year olds on Xbox who are losing an argument
0 likesSo, weird thing. In the YouTube community page on his channel he made a level headed response just a month after this video. His response was level headed and he apologized.
1 likeI feel like that Matt was a real content creator at some point, but got hired by corporations to do what he did since he knew more about YouTube than the 90-year-olds at said corporations.
0 likesThe real tragedy is that this man cost the real Matt Watson his twitter verification for years
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MunkMan9 Ouch.
5 likesSuper mega matt?
48 likes@Doctor Mitchell M.D. i prefer to call him the real matt watson
65 likesMunkMan9 a fitting name. I shall enshrine it in the history books.
19 likesThey get chocolate in a part of Africa where children are used for labour for first world countries.
0 likesBeware the suffering you indirectly cause
Matt "Brat" Watson*
5 likesDid you reply to the wrong person? No ones talking bout nestle here.
4 likesDon't you see his name? It's in Korean. His post is what the cool kids on Twitter call a "fan cam".
0 likesMATT FROM SUPERMEGA
2 likesWow. This conspiracy is like 7 layers deep, and how was I not aware of this when it happened?
2 likesI really wish someone could send this video to Matt. Nothing feels better then seeing some jerk's "argument" fall apart before their very eyes.
1 likeEdit: I know it wouldn't mean much now that he's basically gone, but still.
This is like that one time the reddit/YouTube community supported Peta cuz they were right for once.
3 likesNo one wants to be the guy to go against "saving the children" which is why demagogues and authoritarians use it as a tool to dismantle anything they don't like. Privacy being the latest target in Australia.
3 likesWith the theory about him being a plant, at least one of the questions is answerable in my opinion. They chose someone with a history, the specific history he had, so that if anyone caught on that something wasn't right, then they would think they had it figured out when they looked at his past on YouTube. Just look at the way that most other YouTubers just dropped the search for his motivations after coming to the conclusion that he failed on the platform. as for the lack of frequent Matt Watson clones it could be that companies don't want to overuse the tool they have discovered for fear of others realizing what is going on. If they only use it when the chips are down, it will take a while longer for a traceable pattern to form. You can't hang yourself if you don't give yourself enough rope to do so, so limiting rope dispersal makes sense
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It could also be that a small firm cut him a check of a few thousand to do this, and he saved them maybe twice that.
4 likesWhile I know this might get dated rather fast I find it funny that in the last few weeks there's been talk of banning Tik Tok in the US. That is hilarious in my mind. This train of thought Was connected to some of the apps and the weird stuff with kids. While YouTube may have issues he makes an excellent case for everyone else who is probably worse.
0 likesmaybe we need to combine the failed youtuber theory, and the industry plant theory.
0 likesthis would explain not wanting to co-operate with other youtubers, and preasuring out advertisers.
that also explains his older content
Imagine this never happening at all
1 likeHere after Max's video, history repeats itself
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Seriously, Max's video has good points and makes sense, but he went at it the wrong way. Not to mention his cringe Joker Jigsaw like tone on the video, on a serious issue too.
8 likesThe parallels are obvious but I can only hope the intention is genuine this time.
1 likeWhos max
0 likesGod, reading his posts on Reddit really makes him seem like the quintessential Redditor
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Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
254 likesWHOLESOME 100
115 likes"I must appease all of my wife wishes
110 likesFor am unable to satisfy thee"-quintessential redditor 4350
r/emojipolice R/foundthemobileuser r/angryupvote r/beetlejuicing
93 likesLe epic Keanu chungus wholesome 100 pupper updoots
78 likesfull blown mangina le redditeur
12 likes@Halen2020 Pretty sure the majority of those DANK MAYMERS are 12-15 year old right leaning pewdiepie fans.
47 likesSaw that he posted in ChapoTrapHouse. Needed no further explanation.
55 likesGay?
2 likesBecause that's what heroes do.
21 likesr/holesum r/keanuchungus r/sounding r/simps
@Absoloot Disaster nah king, they're the kinds of guys who complain about feminism and sjws in their video games
9 likes@Cian because it's just companies riding social bandwagons that they see as more profitable. They have every right to complain about that, especially when it infringes on the quality of the product
41 likes@Cian You are the reason why no one takes modern day leftism seriously
27 likesI love how quickly everyone's image of the "typical redditor" switches political sides.
12 likes@Cian Plenty of leftists also complain about SJW's and silly things like feminism in their games too.
24 likes@Cian I've never played the last of us... Clearly you're projecting an image to me of something I'm not.
18 likes@Kodeb8 Once they start projecting, you already won, no need to continue.
20 likes@Neal
1 likeK I N K Y
@Cian You had a point there but you lost it
10 likesRedditors be like: time to jump on internet bandwagon, bully fortnite kids, keanu reeves epic, elongated monk, piss and shit
3 likesI just downvoted your comment.
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@rare pepe I hope that that's a copypasta
0 likesWhen he browsed r/chapotraphouse I lost it.
4 likes@⠀ r/woooosh but it is actually misused to the point of having no true meaning anymore
1 like@rare pepe
0 likesThis text is basically most of the issues i have with reddit lmao, is this a copypasta or did you make it by yourself?
Halen2020 Real leftist don’t sellout to Mega Corporations who says “trans rights”, the left movement was always about humanizing capitalism and serving the working class man, not about selling themselves for Google and the privileged Medium Class kids.
3 likesExcept Redditors don't like coporations.
0 likesThis man talks about spirals more than Junji Ito
4 likes12:52 They broke even in 2015 when they properly enabled mobile ads. I think the entire reason they stopped sharing the profit reports is to perpetrate the myth that YouTube isn't profitable when they actually are. There's plenty of people blindly defending YouTube and even some who aren't perpetrating that myth to this day as though it were somehow a valid excuse for a lot of the sh*t that goes on. You're actually one of the few who's rightfully saying no one knows but I still have my suspicions. As for not having to directly answer to the shareholders, the actions of last and current CEOs have been generally hostile towards users (Creator Insider has also been generally hostile to anyone who dares question them (Todd claimed I was acting in bad faith when YouTube are the ones acting in bad faith and I am responding in kind), just short of blocking people like me who do so). While what you said is true, I don't really consider it a valid point because of this.
1 likeI have no attachment to Matt Watson and he creeps me out, but he had an actual point even though he did probably cause the ad-pocalypse.
1 likeYouTube unintentionally facilitated it by not paying attention to the human condition when designing an algorithm to provide content in this way.
When designing an algorithm with a billion dollar company remember to hire child, adult, and behavioral psychologists to explore how a service might be abused by bad actors.
I apologize but your inability to acknowledge this is why I have to unsubscribe because this is about children and I fully doubt your sincerity in this video.
This is one situation where no matter what the cost was to youtube and its content creators and no matter whether or not he had other motives he did identify an actual issue.
If someone starts out a statement by accusing someone of pedophilia or saying it’s “for the children” I am now immediately skeptical of whatever shit comes out of their mouth next
1 likethis man managed to cause an adpocalypse even kjellberg could only hope to achieve
0 likesI get triggered every time someone says “Wormhole” because a wormhole a tunnel that links two points in space time.
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holds back laughter or a hole made by a worm
70 likesWell, internet rabbit holes aren't exactly dug up through dirt by rabbits.
25 likesUnless the content creators are considered rabbits
1 likeNo it's not
0 likesI get triggered every time someone says "it's raining cats and dogs" because that would be animal cruelty.
12 likesWords and statements can also have figurative meanings.
If you can’t escape the recommended wormhole, it’s a recommended black hole.
0 likesI always looked for what the so called “ad pocilips” but found few videos but had a general idea but finally an in depth explanation
1 likeI forgot I already watched this, but the thumbnail was so appealing, and the video so engaging, that I watched it again.
0 likesI think he was a disgruntled YouTuber, who then sold himself out to an advertiser, to burn the site.
The REAL problem here is the total lack of parenting skills in 1st world countries.
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Tiger Festivals fucking seriously
44 likesletting children online should be considered child abuse
@Tiger Festivals YESSSS. Adults are just as fallible as kids are tbh
16 likesWorkforce exploitation via long hours and multiple jobs for the numerous low wage parents of our 'first world' country feel like an easy way to explain much of the time sinks incapacitating them from doing that very task well. Bit hard to read to your children on a double shift, but a tablet will tide them over for hours, so bandaid it is.
21 likesYeah wtf my parents werent THIS bad like 15 years ago...
5 likesimplying that 3rd world countries raise their children in an effective way
25 likes@Oda Swifteye this, it doesnt just happen in the first world, it also happens a lot in 3rd world, most of the child twerking videos in youtube right now are either from brazil or somewhere in latin america, sadly kids do it not just because the lack of attention from their parents but also because society has made all of this behaviors popular.
13 likesWell it can be pretty difficult to keep children from accessing the internet, especially considering how important it has become. I think internet with moderation is the best choice for parents.
2 likes@Oda Swifteye second world #1
0 likes@Geoffrey Wilson they can play with the paint on the walls if it means avoiding this shit
0 likesOh get a life if 3rd world countries had as much access to tech as first world countries do they would face a similar problem. It's not about the quality of parenting but instead the special type of problem being faced, it's so new that we're still trying to find the best way to deal with it..... boomer
0 likes+Absoloot Disastr
2 likesYep. I recall a certain number of families in Europe while I was backpacking, who, when the child was pitching a fit, would just hand them their phone or a tablet, and the child would absentmindedly take the device and shut up. It almost reminded me of a pacifier, but in this case, its purely a distraction, and not something meant to calm / soothe the child. The parents do not know how to raise a child. Such behavior will only stymie the child's development.
@Morgan Wragg even then, is it really that difficult to teach a kid to take care of themselves? Over the age of like 5, its possible to teach a kid to have a sense of preservation, to not immediately try to kill themseleves/eat poison etc. We just need to figure out how to do that... digitally.
1 likeIt is possible to teach kids, even incredibly young ones, to make the right choices independently. Not many kids actually want to be traumatised or abused.
That’s why I believe we need the government to decide who is worthy of breeding. Can’t trust the weak, only those who are worthy of legally holding can do so.
0 likesThe Internet is no different than TV. Kids shouldn't be banned from the Internet. Just set controls. Most browsers have them.
0 likes@Twister
0 likesUnfortunately, most people think that childhood is a separate reality from adulthood. Even before Internet and TV, kids learn about money, sex, fashion, and discrimination. The real problem in the West is the smothering romanticism of childhood. Kids are not allowed to disagree, criticize, be cynical, walk to school by themselves, etc. Hell, people in their 20s are now being treated like oversized infants bc "muh brain development".
Adults need to stop viewing kids like dogs.
If a child fails or gets a boo-boo, dont lock them away from the outside world!
It's no wonder why Anglo countries have the highest rates of social-personal disorders.
You can't accidentally watch snuff porn or spend $5000 on robux on a tv
0 likes@Kenetic Kups
0 likes???
Then we shouldnt let kids have tv or radio or books.
'Parental controls' are not infallible. My main point is that the internet is only 'no different' from tv in that they both appear on a screen.
0 likes@Acsion42
0 likesRegardless of parental controls, people need to understand that innocence is relative. Kids arent inherently innocent. And innocence is not the same as purity.
We need to include kids in real-life matters instead of shielding them.
Otherwise we end up with stunted "adults" like we have now.
Samuel Anthony That's not even renotely equivelent
0 likesparents should be screening what media the kids consume
@Tiger Festivals
0 likesNah. People just overreact to children doing anything.
@Kenetic Kups
0 likesYes. But at the same time, kids are NOT fundamentally innocent.
Even before tv, kids knew about sex and money and racial class.
Also, there's this detrimental effect that adults do to kids that really fucks them up. We call it "inspiring them to change to change the world."
@Geoffrey Wilson then let them read a book or draw or play with Legos.
0 likes"Matt Watson is a corporate bargaining chip" is a conspiracy that I can sink my teeth into.
0 likesAwesome vid. I will say that YouTube makes so much money they probably don’t care about advertisers pushing them around. It’s a drop in the ocean. If YouTube actually played tough against all the ad people at once theyd get sued for anti trust violations (not saying they’d lose but still)
0 likesMatt didn't care about YouTube he just wanted to destroy everything for everyone. That's the only thing he wanted
1 likeI feel compelled about talking another huge YouTube mystery... how the hell did you pitch a deal with a HAIR LOSS tonic?
0 likesThis guy used "Think of the children " as a way to crash YouTube with no survivors.
361 likesWhat a madlad
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based
8 likesFor you
4 likeswith his own hand too
1 likeEnclave Yeah based, based on what?
0 likes@Tony_ δυτικός αμυντικός Just based.
0 likesCringe
0 likesI like the fact that he keeps insisting on the solution of going to the advertisers, it's like telling someone who has a tumor to kill themselves because that's the only way to remove it.
4 likesMatt Watson is a weird individual, he acts like he's dumb, even though he knows the in's and out's of the platform. He acts like he's saving kids, even though he supports companies with child labour. He feels like he's fueled by ego, but he decides to disappear completely. He might be working with brands, but he has made questionable content. Nothing about him adds up.
5 likesHigh af on shrooms and I’ve been binge watching your channel. Then Peggy came on and I was like holy shit wtf going on and then the entire video just fucked my head. Cool video? I don’t really know what’s goin on tbh just loving the ride and the videos
0 likesEvery time I watch the end of this video I get goosebumps it’s so good
1 likeI didn't even know about his video starting the controversy, so Emp basically gave me 3 times the info that any other news source has. Big ups and blessings to you.
93 likesA side note to this video, the music choice is really dope.
4 likesJust rewatching this after a couple years and I'm surprised I didn't notice this earlier since Matt sounds so bad. 23:17 Isn't the blue yeti a front address microphone? He's talking into the complete wrong part
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Shows his intelligence pretty well
6 likesTo be honest i think he didn’t care. This whole situation reminded me of a small child saying “if i cant have fun. No one can.” He was butthurt he wasn’t succeeding with his channel so decided out of jealousy that nobody should be able to
0 likesThe frustrating part of being on the roof of a skyscraper looking down on the masses is that I can see the totally predictable patterns forming below me, and yet I am powerless to guide them. In fact, they don’t even know I am here... and they never will.
0 likes9:23
108 likesThat pyro comment did not age well
Edit: my comment about that pyro comment that did not age well did not age well
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At least you’re self aware enough to admit it.
23 likes@Bruski most just forget about the comments they make
8 likes@Predator 20357 Im afraid im still a little out of the loop. Mind explaining
0 likes@John Jobs basically, not everyone can recall comments from a while ago.
0 likes@Kārlis Ulmanis Oh no i ment the pyrosynical stuff.
0 likesBut thank you
@John Jobs watch pyrocinical's my response video.
4 likesyour edit about the comment of the pyro comment didnt age well
0 likesMatt Watson was an industry plant paid by an unknown company to give a reason for advertisers to pull out of YouTube so they can negotiate lower rates for these advertisers to spend. That was his one goal and he succeeded. He didn't want to consider any other options that made better sense, he was just paid to do one thing and he did it. But what doesn't get talked about nearly as much during this shitstorm was how the hive-mind of Reddit was so quick to promote Matt's video.
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People are sheep and child abuse is usually a topic most don't want to argue about or ponder. And if you said what Emp is saying now, you'd probably be accused of being a pedophile justifying things.
12 likes@Yotrymp
10 likes'Think of the children!' works everytime, trust me. It's hard to be against it as children are in danger, but there will be times when someone would use it for gain.
He would have to be paid by someone small enough to not be noticed, but big enough to cut a half decent check.
1 likeActic exactly remember when some senators were trying to pass a law that is literally chinese style censorship.
0 likesthe worst part about all of this is that he doesn't use his mic properly, you speak into the side of the yeti not the top. it's clearly stated in the manual and on the box
1 like“The only way to get them to act is by hitting their monetary income”
1 likeIs my man forgetting that child is literally illegal?
Okay but the real question is, why is your music taste so fucking good. From Let there Be Light by Justice to the goddamn Wario Ware theme 🤣
3 likesI feel the reason why he of all people was picked by big corpo was his background .
0 likesMost people that would try to look into him at the time of controversy, would see and think its only a failed youtuber trying to burn both website and his more successful peers.
It would be a perfect facade for the deeper story behind the scenes and explain why watson tried so poorly to cover his past.
Would you burn down your place of work after being fired? Unless you're insane no.
But would do it for monetary incentive and guaranted safety afterwards? think more people would be inclined to agree.
Still there's a high possibility that there where many more people like matt that declined offer and what happend to them? got paid to shut up? got taken down cia style?
and leave the question of other people behind the scenes?
truth is we might never see the full story
Yeah his videos on Totally Uncreative were definitely meant to be satire, that's clear enough by him jamming a remote up his rear and saying he's "taking his daily dose of red pill". WILDLY terrible satire though, and even the best comedy isn't really a good enough excuse for harassing people on the street like a weirdo.
339 likesIt's amazing how quickly he came and went. Really makes u thonk.
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Daddy has spoken
9 likesThonk
6 likesdidnt know you had this nice of a taste
1 likeLove your streams and videos claw
0 likesDeadwingDork dead wing daddy
1 likewell, there's one comedy that has a good enough excuse...
1 likeB O R A T
I mean, the harassment video could have been fake...
0 likesHe tried
0 likesYou watch Emp? Hell yeah.
0 likesIt's not that hard to make fun of manosphere types tbh
0 likesWell hello there daddy Deadwing
0 likesgets that noggin joggin
0 likes"even the best comedy isn't really a good enough excuse for harassing people"
1 likeWell, UNLESS they are a Furry, its not acceptable.
like clockwork, as a man once said "It's like poetry, It Rhymes"
5 likesDude behaves EXACTLY like everyone I’ve known diagnosed with Schizophrenia. This was him Vlogging his 'Break'.
1 likeWasp removal videos are the true wormhole (or wasphole) we should be investigating
5 likesNice video! Can't believe I sat through all of it. I can tell you a little something about Matt if you are interested. In fact, I was following his channel and his first few videos when he opened it back in 2016. Ehh.. but I'm too lazy and tired I'm afraid. No one will care to read anyway so I'ma just make coffee and play video games
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0 likesWhat if Matt's actions were some sort of test to find out
174 likes- how much influence can be gained from a single youtube video under the right circumstances
- how long obvious contradictions don't have any impact on someone's credibility
- how easy it is to manipulate a previously neutral audience
- if someone's strategy for creating a viral video works
- if someone's strategy for creating a viral movement works (and for how long)
etc.
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Reminds me of a certain president
4 likesThis is turning into some mk ultra shit now.
6 likes@Doodguy The blank It is, and it's creepy. We shape the internet and in return, the internet shapes us. All it takes is one image/video/article in the right time and right place.
7 likes@James Kyle Alboroto sounds like the game we become what we behold, if you haven't played it then you should.
2 likesHis argument of "I won't reveal my identity because I could be implicated by reporting to the FBI or Police" makes no sense, because if that was the case, it would dissaude people from reporting these incidents and thus would make investigations much more difficult.
0 likesNever remember hearing about this boogaloo. It really sounds like a guy trying to destroy other people’s small income because he couldn’t get some of it himself.
0 likesYou can hate on keemstar all you want, but you gotta admit, he was droppin heat on Matt
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I Dont Like Jojo
1 like@Cool Dude 876
0 likesSame though. This name and pic are just an inside joke between a few friends.
@drip naruto of course you hate jojo, he's you're enemy isn't he?
1 likeThis is the best video that Emplemon have ever made
3 likesi love this guy is like "billionare companies are evil and greedy, so i will tell other billionare companies to solve our problems, they will know what to do" which they didnt, they just remove the adds and act like nothing happened.
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"Witch"
4 likesso goes the last theory posited in the video.
0 likesLibright in a nutshell lol
4 likes@Shay Ó Laoghaire But he's not woke, Matt is a mercenary with no motivation beyond whatever he got from Disney and friends for his work.
5 likesQuixotes neoliberals are capitalist not left at all
1 like@Shay Ó Laoghaire no, that is how libertarians and capitalists operate, "woke" people always call the goverment to do stuff for them, not companies (generaly speaking of course)
6 likesthats communist for you.
0 likes@Fco Omega How easily we forget Carlos Maza.
0 likesThat's because the whole "woke" thing comes entirely from the top down. The modern SJW culture was essentially invented (or at least popularised) during Occupy which ended up destroying it. When numerous corporations and media outest started pushing the idelogy conveniantly all at once. Also we know that it comes from the education system now. Plus now almost every major corporation pushes this. You have to be an idiot to think this is somehow grassroots or is a threat to 1%ers
6 likes@Geeeee8 ok redpiller
1 likeTfw when a weirdly defensive and emotional ginger is actually a peephole through which we can see the secret maneuvers done by the coalition of companies that's actually pulling the strings behind society and technology.
25 likesi remember when all this went down... crazy how time flies
0 likesThis guy has been watching nothing but "those kinds of videos" to the point that youtube is recommending no other videos.
7 likesThe point was to start the conversation and prime the community for the coming purge of content which would be deemed "offensive". AKA, anything that goes against the mainstream narrative. The purpose of the guy's channel was so that other people would eventually say "well maybe there is some content like that, but it's already being addressed. What about all THIS content that is soooo offensive? We need to demonetize this!" And so now anyone to the right of Mao has not only been demonetized but entirely banned, and legacy media outlets are prioritized in search results over independent commentators. It's about maintaining control of the narrative. Too many independent voices were undermining the establishment monopoly on shaping public views. And to think that Youtube wasn't involved in the discussion/planning is so idiotic that it's more likely that anyone suggesting this is doing so as a deliberate effort to misdirect rather than due to ignorance.
1 likeTheory: Matt Watson is actually Matpat in disguise trying to get revenge on everyone for making fun of him for giving the Pope a copy of Undertale.
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Lyon Croft BUT HEY
67 likesim actually surprised anybody remembers that meme of pat giving a mfkn copy of undertale to pope xdddddd
57 likes@Kadin Rogers IT'S JUST A THEORY
21 likesPeople make fun of MatPat for that? That's stupid. MatPat gave him a copy of Undertale because he thought it was a perfect representation of the gaming community.
72 likesWhich is, honestly a statement that hasn't aged quite like wine.
@hmm2 A POPE THEORY!
6 likesI remember that lmao
0 likes@MarkaVar he does stupid shit every week it's hard to keep track of it all
22 likesHe gave a copy of undertale to the pope?
2 likesMatt patt turns out to be some comic book super villain who can disguise himself as anyone but he uses his powers to get against people who made fun of him.
3 likes@Wisemankugel Memicus he also thinks it's his responsibility to be the spokesperson for the gaming community. I love the guy, and I feel like he has good intentions, but he needs to learn to back off once in a while.
29 likesTrue. I remember that time a while after Etika’s death where he used it as a mismarketed image of something else, I can’t remember exactly what it was.
2 likesWhy did you not say "Game Theory: Matt Watson is actually..."
2 likes@Wisemankugel Memicus Cool game though. Nice to see something in the vein of Mother 3 in the modern age.
1 likeGame Theory: is Matt Watson actually Papyrus from Undertale?
0 likesI'm not a Matpat fanboy or anything but, why did people make fun of him for giving the Pope a copy of Undertale? Is it because it was around the time he did that theory about Sans being Ness?
0 likesCan undertale survive the corona virus
0 likes@Moobattle He's not incorrect tho. Again, he does do seminars and talks to very important people. Like the Pope and Susan Wojcicki. He has enough pull to get Dan Harmon on his channel. Of course, Susan didn't listen.
4 likesAnd actually, Susan as CEO of YouTube does not have to listen. EmpLemon's newest video brings up the fact that basically as long as Alphabet/Google is still around, YouTube will have no monetary struggles.
Wait the fuck up, he did that?
0 likes@Hypno Bagels it was Cancel Culture. He tried to market Etika's suicide as an example of cancel culture when it wasnt.
0 likes@Wisemankugel Memicus it aged like milk
0 likes@rallokkcaz each feather represents a memory
0 likesit's always one dude that wants to see the world burn and everyone follows
3 likesi love your videos, very entertaining
1 likeGoogle should sue the shit out of Matt Watson for complete defamation.
1 likeThis is more relavent now than ever before
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indeed Smaggle, history rhymes
2 likesAs a swiss man once said "it's always relevant because nothing fucking changes"
0 likesanyone doing something "for the children" is likely not to be trusted
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So Democrats 🤔
7 likes@Mohammed Shaker Yeah, just Democrats. Only them
42 likesWill somebody please stop thinking of the children?!
21 likesYou know, a lot of campaigns to "help starving children in Africa" never actually directly help the children in any way, so this statement makes sense. I'm not saying it's a fact, but it's sure got a lot of truth to it.
37 likes@rowan e You missed the point. He's not saying that there aren't pedo Republicans. He's saying that "think of the children!" is one of the most commonly used Democrat excuses when they want something banned.
9 likes@Anthuny You miss my point (plus I'm not talking only about pedophilia here). Republicans said to "think of the children" when they wanted to censor anti-Christian or "harmful" media. "Think of the children" when they wanted to pass the corporate coronavirus bailout bill. I can go on. It's an extremely common moral high ground tactic used by both parties, so going "So Democrats" is pretty fuckin stupid.
27 likes@Anthuny that's %100 what I meant. Nothing about my statement implies that I meant ONLY Democrats. They do however evoke children VERY commonly.
3 likesSo my parents can't be trusted?
0 likes@rowan e "You miss my point"
2 likesIt's hard to find a point in a sarcastic response that consists of a 3 word and 2 word sentence whose only purpose was mockery of the person it was a response to. You can argue that "D might do X, but R also does X" all day, but the truth is "R and D both do X, but D does X so often that X is attributed to being a trait of D". Your tu quoque isn't going to change that.
so basically Nerd City...
0 likes@Aaron Stepien Are you accusing Nerd City of being a bad person?
0 likesAnxiety war?
0 likesHonestly this dude, Matt, is what pisses me off.
0 likesThe words "Child Exploitation" generally force people to have a knee-jerk reaction or else be seen as a bad person.
Then talking about shit he doesn't know about. Based on his other videos, doesn't seem like a channel I'd like.
I'm glad someone cared enough to look into his shit.
I suspect he didn't find this stuff by accident. He sounds like he projecting to me... he's got a certain type of outrage that you see in people trying to convince others that they don't like something.
1 likeFor example, when a habitual liar says they hate liars to try to make people think they don't lie. That's what this sounds like to me. Now when he gets raided he'll say he was "doing research".
It’s kinda messed up to refer to being unemployed as being salty
1 likeYoutubers really are shooting themselves in the foot by monetizing their channels, the day is coming that you will be forced to watch 5-6 unskippable 30-60 second ads in a row, just like the tv, and youtubers will have nobody but themselves to blame for losing their viewer bases when people go somewhere else for videos, I appreciate that Emp keeps his ads to a minimum, but I wouldn't even watch this channel if I had to wait for that many ads, entertaining and insightful as it is
0 likes20:35 Can someone elaborate on what about this mixture was so dangerous? I saw a bunch of these but never knew that they were all so dangerous
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1 likeIt’s meant to temporarily dye your pupils, which also can cause permanent damage
It amazes me that there are STILL people TO THIS DAY who don't understand how the youtube algorithm and recommended videos work. It's really not a hard concept to comprehend. It should be pretty much common sense.
1 likeWhat about monetarily rewarding people who accurately report pedo content? Its not like youtube will ever be able to build a team big enough to tackle every single one of these videos, but they do have access to a large enough audience that will. Any of the money they would spend on this hypothetical and ineffective team can be shifted to this program.
1 likeWhat Matt did is like accusing Mojang of supporting Racism because of Villager Slavery and Iron Farms.
0 likesI think Emp is the real under covered agent here. He's too smart for the platform.
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AngraZero Sure
2 likesHe's a plant placed here by the YTP industry
18 likesEmperor Lemon is the CEO of Vimeo
5 likesnoob2243 He’s basically the YouTube version of a CIA agent
2 likesThere is one part that really is damning that should have been elaborated on, instead of all the meandering for useless points like "Matt's name isn't spectacular."
2 likesWhen the comments from Matt's reddit account are shown, it's on a subreddit called /ChapoTrapHouse, a subreddit for pinko losers. For years, CTH got away with breaking Reddit's ToS, even going so far as to call for politicians to be 'baseballed' (search what happened on June 14, 2017 if you want to crack the code) for years. Their userbase had a lot of overlap with other power-groups on Reddit, such as AgainstHateSubreddits and SRS, which also act as the admin's pet subs.
Just as well, Reddit's scoring system directly translates popularity into exposure; in order to game Reddit, it's possible to buy/farm just enough upvotes in order to get a post trending, then let the community launch it the rest of the way to the top of the site.
I point this out because a user from that subreddit would likely know how to game the site, so it's not entirely unfeasible that he would be able to launch a post on Reddit inorganically, while not being able to do the same for a Youtube channel.
Matt was our reality’s joker
2 likesMatt's the kinda guy to launch 100 nukes at a country just because he found out it had one human trafficking ring
2 likesHe's a network guy.Big media already had the story ready to go because Matt was put there by big media
0 likeslesson learned: reddit is to blame
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RainbowFishcakes they usually are
218 likeskind stranger did it again
344 likesA ton more people then a website was at fault tho. Reddit was definitely a part of it but dont let that distract you from other people to blame here
92 likesTime for war
4 likes@MaximumYogertCloset you've said that like 100 times
14 likesreddit and leftism, that is.
36 likesSo the whole Matt Waston Scandal was a Reddit moment.
27 likesi accept your opinion even though i am a redditor. Isn't that fair?
7 likesr/ihavereddit You're right the reddit admins are extremely left they're the VIOLENT LEFT!
8 likes@Mama Diepie /k/ and /fit/ are the only good subs
24 likes>inb4
every time
1 likeThank you for gold kind stranger
3 likes@AbielM16 as a redditor, not wrong
3 likesWholesome 100
3 likesRedditors, do your thing.
4 likesEven as a redditor I hate reddit
5 likesHonestly the only good part of reddit is the porn
8 likes@Sebastian Thomas reddit, for me, is good for fandoms. Really nothing else... the memes are okay (except for dank memes. Fuck dank memes.).
7 likesI really have grown to despise Reddit over time.
7 likesIt seems to actively promote harmful/explotive behaviour in its users at this point and what amount of good there is in it isn't worth digging through the cesspool of lazyness and hostility the rest of the site is.
Amen
0 likes@MaximumYogertCloset that sub sucks
0 likesReddit foreheads...
1 like@MaximumYogertCloset WAS the only good sub. It's been trash since it hit 100k subscribers, almost on the dot.
1 like@Just Your Everyday Pig same with 4chan, twitter and tumblr.
2 likesAlways.
2 likesas always
2 likesOMG WE DID IT REDDIT!!!
2 likesas always
2 likes@Alien Observer Reddit's been fucking up way longer than the political canyon we've gotten ourselves into. Remember when they thought they found the Boston bomber and got an innocent security guard killed?
3 likesyou should’ve already knew that
0 likesIsn't this what the redditors did? Blame one thing blindly (Youtube) without digging deeper?
1 like@The PR Don't let this distract you from the fact that Mr. Krabs sold Spongebob's soul for 62 cents.
1 like@Clorox Bleach r/thedonald suggests otherwise.
0 likesR E D D I T M O M E N T
2 likesI'd gladly accept blaming reddit for all the problems in the world. And throw twitter in there too while we're at it.
3 likesReddit is only good for promoting your videos
2 likesAbsolutely. Reddit is cancer.
1 like@KingHalbatorix Wrong, /sci/ is the best board**
0 likesAs always
1 likeAs per usual reddit is useless, stupid, and won’t even try to understand anything, or just accept others opinions.
5 likesr/vita
0 likesOMG! I came back from my vasectomy and my wife's boyfriend surprised me with a large frappuccino from Starbucks!
4 likesMama Diepie so what, you consider us the scum of the earth foul beast!
0 likesAlien Observer “leftism” ooooo boogeyman word
0 likesBob Domler such a strong opinion, so brave and controversial.
0 likesKode true, but I’d perfer reddit over any other media. Any other media is a virus, a cancer, a disease...in my eyes
0 likesworm I mean reddit is owned maybe, allegedly by chinese shills
1 likeThey recently took down r/redditisownedbychina
Hmmm they love them social credit points
We did it, Reddit..?
0 likes@AbielM16 k
0 likes@MaximumYogertCloset nah, there are more subs like that PCM is the most popular
0 likeschill one
Incredible that I’m just learning about this. I guess late is better than never. Great content as always
0 likesI mean the ads are told to pay for a content filter, they instead wait for a controversy, this inevitably results in lower rates for the brands which makes up the shortfall caused by this new expense.
0 likes15:43 Seeing GRAMMERLY with that red typo underline made me laugh way more i should have.
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2 likes@Tyler Mustard loooser indeed it is!
0 likesIn France, the video by "Le roi des rats" was on trending for a while and Everyone was talking about it, but yeah it stayed in French speaking YouTube
82 likesThe part about the controversies always happening at the beginning of the year before the Upfront meeting in March is eye opening. But if Matt was a corporate plant, and Matt Watson is not his real name, then surely someone at least recognizes the guy by his face?
141 likesThe whole thing just doesn't make sense. And what you brought up about other platforms being far more dangerous than YouTube is also true. Are those companies not the target of these controversies because they refuse to be bullied by advertisers like Susan is? Where are the campaigns to tear down all playgrounds because they provide a place for predators? There's definitely something going on behind the scenes...
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Well, once we start finding out what exactly is going on behind the scenes, things are going to get insane.
9 likesUltimately I think the butthurt leftie theory is true. It had the least convincing "holes" against it especially considering Carlos Maza did practically the same thing for similar motives. "He didn't mention class" is a very weak excuse because not all progressives talk about it nor is "b-but it hurt leftie youtubers" because again people like him and Carlos don't care about that
22 likesI think there are hit pieces against other social media sites before. They just don't have much traction as Youtube's. The one I can think of are The Tik Tok predator, war against privacy on Facebook and Twitter, no 18 and up art on Tumblr, viral fake news on any social media site, Cambridge Analytica scandal, Gab's war against porn, Covington Kids for Twitter, etc.
2 likes@CyberNinjaZero If he was just a butthurt lefty, why would he not just raise awareness about the thing that he wanted to? It's not like that didn't JUST cause a massive adpocolypse at the time of his expose.
2 likesThe video and editing in this are akin to something on netflix, in fact probably better than netflix.
0 likesHe's probably someone who found /b/ and decided to pull off an EPIC TROLL and, despite his ludicrous incompetence in doing so, it worked. He's even using the classic "Will somebody PLEASE think of the children!" message.
0 likesGreat video, and excellent choice of music
1 likeReally liking the doors music in this. When alabama song bled into strange days it was cool knowing the doors had been specifically put in this.
2 likesI like how EMPlemon keeps using tf2 jokes in his vids, it feels nice to see the game get any attention these days
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Imagine what will happen if Team Fortress 2 will get some attention from Valve or be made into Free and Libre software (FOSS or FLOSS).
10 likesDurr yuhtub person guy likes product? Me like product durr durr!
1 likeEat protien, pray to matt, get epic gains, get cunny.
@GOINGGODMODE What did he mean by this?
17 likes@Calvin_Coolage I think his brain is leaking. Don't mind this one
18 likes@GOINGGODMODE He dared to reference a product? What is he an NPC?
9 likesThat's it. I assume he drinks protein shakes therefore is similar to people who are muscular and make me insecure. He's clearly a consoomer guys, but I love capitalism.
@Bungus sick burn kid, I'll let this one slide,,, but let's just say you BETTER not show your face in down town Detroit. :-))))))
0 likes@GOINGGODMODE Hi
0 likes@GOINGGODMODE
3 likesCalm your powerlevel dude
"...to upload what he would describe as comedy videos" is such an underrated dig.
1 like"There was a glitch in the um algorithm"
2 likes"That was a pop-up ad"
Also, maybe he really didn't intend on helping companies, just unleashing his hate on Youtube in the worst way he can, because he failed at being a Youtuber, which would explain his older, personal videos. The companies just took it as a blessing. But why is 'Matt Watson' so anonymous? idk, really. Oooooh scary~
This reminds me of a real life version of the black mirror 'fitness youtube' episode.
5 likesIt wouldn't require many people to stay quiet, just a few parts would required to pull something like what Matt did. A PR agent, somebody to pay him, and a hot and volatile subject for him to work with. The PR agent would tip the news, Matt would get the views, and whoever hired would benefit. The paper trail would be nonexistent if he was paid in either cash or out of an individuals pocket, if it was an out of pocket, it would be impossible to narrow down the individual responsible for paying him when looking at a massive corporation, and if it was cash all we would see is a withdrawal of funds, not the purpose for the withdrawal. All the PR agent would have to say is "look at this, this is some big news" and the media would be all over it, all they would need is a tip, no insider required in the media, but a trusted source is, this also may be why more Matts don't show, they need to be both credible and trusted by news outlets, and trust is hard to receive when your a massive corporation, Journalists are known for being nosy and looking into things, so imagine some PR rep just emails you something and your a journalist, this PR rep works for a large corporation, you wouldn't jump on it, you say "why would they tell me this, why do they care?", this may allow us to rule out which companies were responsible, Disney and Nestle wouldn't be trusted on such a subject, so it wouldn't be them. Matt deleted all his video, but being a youtuber gave him unique experience that isn't easily found in somebody who doesn't have a channel, and even harder to find one with a successful channel, now the company is looking around for someone who can pull off their scheme, enter Matt, no paper trail, unknown to the masses, had a successful channel and is willing to do what you want for a price, looking at his home and living conditions in the videos, it wouldn't even take offering ten grand to convince to go ahead and do it, especially if he thinks social media is toxic and unsafe. The ulterior motive would be to show and highlight the toxic nature of social media and get paid while doing it, he isn't some rogue, just some dude who really dislike social media for unknown reasons, this also may play into why he deleted all of his videos, maybe for a cleanse, looking at his channel the content is juvenile, edgy, and impulsive, but successful, could he not have wanted that kind of content? Did he grow bored of it? While the reason be unknown, the cleanse theory is the best explanation, it would also explain his disposition towards you tubers and his unwillingness to talk to media outlets, maybe he just dislikes media in general, considering the news to be on the same level YouTube, it's either that or exposure was too risky and unnecessary, the topic was already well known and being addressed, why take any risks doing interviews when you already have what you need? Everyone could already agree that the problem was very much real and needed to be addressed before he even started, he just needed to throw fuel onto the flame. News outlets tend to ignore social media platforms, most of the time they simply discuss what somebody discovered about the platform, not really ever doing the research themselves, meaning it would require a tip from a trusted source to provoke them into looking into it, and all the tip would have to do is point at Matt, note how hardly any other channels highlighted or even mentioned in those articles, and if they did, hardly elaborated on them, that acts evidence to suggest what I say is true. Was it all planned? Of course not, it was never planned, why would they have somebody like Matt in their back pocket? At best they kept tabs on him, but I think they just happened to stumble across him and after hearing some bad news found out hat they had a unique opportunity on their hands. Were other corporations consulted? Possibly, and it is strong one at that, but I think only one actually carried out the plot and those who were consulted were limited in number and were in agreement to keep their mouths shut, that is if they were, but there is no evidence suggest this is true. Now Matt has no paper trail to follow, he isn't active on social media as far as we know, but at the same time he has incredible experience and knowledge about the various platforms, he would make for a perfect industry agent, especially since no one actually knew who he was, and all of those things would be a requirement, if youtube found out who was responsible, they could sue, hold it against them and punish them, or make life a lot harder, I mean CNN managed to dig up enough dirt to blackmail some guy with nothing but a comment to start with, the task wouldn't be easy, but not impossible. This is why more Matt's don't show up, a person like Matt is incredibly uncommon, 80% of the population is active on social media, even more are aware and have an known presence, and those who don't don't have the knowledge or know how to do what Matt did, to settle for less is incredibly risky, but Matt was competent enough to handle the situation on his own, and succeed, and with no real online presence, no dirt could be dug up because there was no dirt to dig into, therefore, the news outlets would think that it was legit and support it, and when the news supported it the bandwagon effect comes into play creating the perfect storm. Isn't that a bit complicated? No not really, like I said it was probably not planned but rather there was nothing to lose but everything to gain, if Matt failed the consequence would be inconvenience, nothing too devastating or threatening, just not ideal. So I think that some corporation stumbled onto Matt, the two had a chat, came up with an idea, and decided to just say "Psh, why not?" and went ahead and did something, this is probably why Matt is proud of accomplishing what he did, it truly was an incredible feat that he could take pride in, being able to manipulate the masses, not just the news or countless unknown names in the comments, but the other you tubers as well, he used them and manipulated them all to succeed, and once he succeeded, I bet he was paid handsomely to do something that he was already willing to do or something he wouldn't think much about, and all of it on short notice. This is just a theory I have on it, and I don't think there are too many holes in it, either way, I enjoyed making it.
0 likeshate him or eh hate him, he did play everyone like a damn fiddle
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You are giving him too much credit, he manipulated the internet equivalent of a bunch of especial ed kids.
28 likes@Plasti Garbo
8 likeswell you're in at least one of those audiences so don't go thinking you're immune or anything
And this is why you NEVER take the "think of the children" argument seriously.
6 likes@Penelope McQueen "B-Buhhh-But muh that would make me guilty! I will try to destroy things for the sake of children!! Not like it would fail..... again.... for the like, 10000th time..."
2 likesBryson Omoto “ no fiddles are hard to play, he played us like the cheap kazoo we were” - Raymond Holt
5 likesThats because youtubers and the idiots who take youtube seriously.... kinda hate youtube for some reason so they use every oportunity they get to shit on them without realizing that this will also hurt them in the process.
3 likesHonestly is kinda funny
@TheBigShot we need to be mindful of when we are believing something because of mob mentality
1 likeHe had me all of an hour then I laughed at myself
0 likes@Billy Sanderson exactly
0 likes@Alias Z50 People hate Youtube because Youtube does shitty things constantly and has always been doing shitty things.
1 likei saw mumkey jones at like 20:05 and i instantly remembered that whole debacle, i miss him
2 likesWow this man single handedly destroyed youtube
2 likesOkay, I know this part of the video was only an example to prove your point, but I have to ask, Why would someone have any reason to celebrate grotesque scenes of monkey abuse?
0 likesThis is one of the first times I feel I am not up to date with what is going on in the world.
0 likesI cannot keep up.
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this happened more than a year ago
1 likeyknow, him having videos may be EXACTLY why they picked him if him being an industry plant is correct. No one would suspect a seemingly normal youtuber to be a industry plant.
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Thats what I was thinking during the vid, quite subtle to ward off those thoughts.
16 likesThat’s what I was thinking too. It’s kind of like going undercover.
14 likesThe only problem with this is that it would be very risky for the corporations. If the host doesn’t exist in a vacuum, there is a decent chance they would just refuse and possibly even tell someone about the scheme.
8 likesWhat Is an industry plant?
0 likes@Dlaumor Kaizen a shill basically, a seemingly normal person like you or I, but they really work for large companies in secret, manipulating things for those companies. Nestle and Disney are both well known to use scummy tactics like that.
8 likesIf they wanted him to seem like an ordinary youtuber why would they have him delete all of his videos a week before the scheme?
0 likesAll this goes to show, never trust gingers
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Same
0 likesI enjoyed the Strange Days instrumental thing, and then you've got Brian Ellis' Terminated right after that. Emps got good taste.
2 likesFuck I literally threw my phone reading Forbes publish "Does it really matter that the President of the United States has dementia"
4 likesyou shouldn't trust him because he speaks too close to a mic that's designed to pick up his voice from several feet away
2 likessure sign of a scammer
You could do a shorter one on "Congratulation!" Its a scene from the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion where several primary characters congratulate the primary character. They all only say "Congratulation!" The comment section followed suit, and the WHOLE THING is just people saying congratulations. Some people editted some thing, some people used the Japanese translation, but its all the same. Well of course, except for one :3
2 likesDid I mention that there are NO REPLIES TO ANY COMMENTS
I love that any non programmer calls anything an “algorithm.”
1 likethe videos are already good, but the inclusion of GT4 music is sublime.
1 likeWhat does cheese pizza have to do with any of this? Seriously though can I Sue Matt for punitive damages to my psyche for even viewing his thumbnails?
2 likesBegins with a Down the Rabbit Hole reference.
1043 likesOh, this is gonna be a good one.
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I actually opened a seperate tab to check if the
22 likes'' Whheeeooouu whhheeeeooouuu''
was the same.
what am i doing with my life?
Ah yes. Quarantine.
I read this as DOOM the rabbit hole
2 likesc LOOK HERE LOOK LISTEN
7 likesI actually have it looming next to this video lol
0 likesHOLY SHIT! IS THAT A [Down the Rabbit Hole] REFERENCE!?
3 likestrue
0 likes992
0 likesHe reminds me of syndrome from the incredibles. He wanted to be a YouTuber but then when he failed he wanted all other youtubers to suffer. It’s honestly incredibly fucked up and selfish
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True….never thought of that before
0 likesthis is like a magician saying close your eyes during a magic trick when he finds things that don't go with his message
0 likesIll admit I was concerned when you started the bernie pipeline narrative but you remain the most critical unbiased commenter on YouTube company culture, based emplemon
4 likesIt’s so weird because I have literally no memory of this event happening.
0 likesI just wanna know why miniplayer is disabled for “children’s content”
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RIGHT!?
574 likesYou also can't enable subscription notifications for "children's content" either.
758 likesDon't get it.
You can't add children's content to playlists either.
640 likesThat's like the most annoying thing ever
364 likesFrom what I've heard, I think that's moreso an issue with Coppa. YouTube restricts features on "children's content" because they want creators to lie and say that their content isn't made for children even if it is. That way they can still make ad revenue off of it. Basically: Coppa said "You guys can't make advertising revenue off of content labeled for kids because we don't want you collecting ad data on children.". So YouTube is like "Okaaay we'll just try to force our content creators to lie then, so that way if a lawsuit happens, the individual creators who lied will be held responsible and we won't, and we can still make money." Basically the only way you're able to profit off of kids content now is to put yourself at risk of a Coppa violation.
748 likesI can't watch a video from the Pokemon channel cause every time I put the mini player the video stops -_-
204 likes"Coppa violations"?
32 likes@ToadySP Wow thats a good theory, I never thought about this like that. The fact that youtube doesn't seem to do anything with the content that would fall under the mixed audience exclusion seems to support this. Make the system so insufferable that it will be easier for people to lie (or actually claim the mixed audience exclusion but youtube doesn't want to admit it exists)
115 likes@Wes Small you can actually by workarounds
79 likesSee my playlist: coppa-cabanana? Some of video are marked as for kids, in past or till this day. Ironically some are age restricted!!!
How to do it?
• Hit like button, and it'll be on liked video list.
• Try to add into other playlist
• There we go!
Sometimes on phone, it got recommended and it doesn't autoplay thumbnails. Click on video, see if it's age restricted, if not close the video and try to add to playlist
(Barry Manilow's song added for emphasis on the name)
I sometimes go on a nostalgia trip by finding some old cartoon openings and I usually put nostalgic videos in a playlist, with this block I can barely listen to nostalgic cartoon music.
71 likes@bitelaserkhalif 平家boy천궁파워서플라이 also that sounds good
5 likesI know it's literally so frickin stupid, I try to watch and hear me out Kidz Bop for a playlist I have with over a thousand and five hundred videos and I can't even scroll down or add more to it at least the ones that are already added can stay its just really sad and I can't wait till the day this site crashes and dies....
16 likesI just hope all the videos will be archived.
All the Peanuts content is childproofed and I HATE IT Peanuts isn't for children, it's for ALL AGES. God.
20 likesMiniplayer is disabled because YouTube uses the data from the miniplayer to provide predictive search suggestions and recommendations. This kind of thing is what YouTube is prohibited from doing in order to be COPPA compliant.
45 likesBobbymcfly it isn’t for me
0 likesI think it may have to do with the auto play feature so that they don't get lead into a blackhole of content
2 likesAtr0 Can’t they just not do that when the mini-player is up during a kids video?
12 likesThis
1 likeSome of the Beatles' songs from Yellow Submarine and Magical Mystery Tour are children's content so I can't just listen to them or even add them to my playlist. It's so dumb.
14 likesEspecially when some random music of meme is hit with it and its just disappointing
10 likesEspecially when it's definitely not "childrens content"
7 likesAn episode of the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure OVA is marked as for kids, when in that episode, they play poker, gamble, and a man has a seizure in camera
28 likesIt to reduce watch time to punish creators further for making childrens content; same as not having notifications.
6 likesI'm pretty sure "children's content" is just a different label for "Shadowban".
15 likesIt’s because of the whole COPPA thing. YouTube disabled most features for children’s content, including comments, playlists, and the miniplayer on kids videos to try and avoid further fines from the FTC.
1 likeitz sj77 That was bothering me so much. Thank you
0 likesOh yeah, one time I found some taliban music and when I tried to miniplay it, it said I couldn't because it was "children's content"
20 likesWorks fine for me.
0 likesmy guess is it's down to information collection, the reason the COPA thing happened was youtube was collecting information about kids which is illegal in the US. videos that are targeted at kids are videos that are set to be kids content, the act of sending a notification must require the user to share some info, same thing with the miniplayer
1 likeWell it's most likely because YouTube is trying to discourage kids content from being made. They stole data and served children Ads. Instead of stopping these behaviors COPPA and YT just decided to stop these videos so less children will not be able to enjoy the platform.
13 likes@ToadySP Why can't they do non-tracking ads on kids' videos? Project Wonderful exists, so does DDG, so the technology is there.
5 likesIt’s fucking annoying when I find a song I like or a version of a song I like and want to save it but can’t because it’s “children’s content”
7 likesSame reason Roblox censors numbers for kids under 13
4 likesYes
0 likesMy favorite Lego Star Wars stopmotions from 2007 are "for kids" now and it fucking pisses me off every time I go to watch them
7 likesYeah I just wanna listen to donkey Kong country returns music while browsing my subs
1 like@bitelaserkhalif 平家boy천궁파워서플라이 and @itz sj77
2 likesThis is the reason why we love the comment section.
It's so adults can see what their kids are watching at all times. That screen is so small it'd be impossible to tell whether it's Elsa and Spiderman, or family finger friends.
2 likesToadySP this is exactly the case
1 like@Wes Small that kinda has sense
0 likesBecause mods gay.
0 likesYes that has happened too fuckin much I was watching a captain fordo clone wars clip he is a badass and it has been happening to things not even ment for kids
1 likeNobody 2020:
2 likesBecause clearly government has been really helpful so far this year
I've seen bloody fight scenes in anime flagged as child friendly content. The whole thing is ridiculous
4 likesHere's my theory: when going into childrens content you only get childrens Content suggested, but miniplay can show content that isn't children's content.
1 likeToadySP that’s a horrific psychological dark pattern
0 likesI saw like parodies of cartoons and games made for kids get marked as children’s content even tho the videos featured blood and in some cases swearing
4 likesIts for children because its bad to overstimulate children. Look at kids tv shows. The ones aimed at younger kids are slower like sesame street. Less action and motion on screen. Spongebob for older children is more fast paced in terms of dialogue and action on screen. The miniplayer stops so kids arentnoverstimulated because younger brains arent good at handling so many things.
1 likeNintendo dodged it thankfully, the LEGO Mario reveal isn't feelin' so good.
1 likewazzuper25 I can only hope all the Nintendo related channels like Mario maker and theorists don’t get destroyed by this stuff
0 likesAccording to youtube some "Children's content" applied to robot chicken and Bojack Horseman, because there are kids voices. Can't wait for the ending of Human Centipede 2 be considered "Children's content" cause of the baby.
4 likesor "watch later" it annoys me, because the algorithm taggs random bullshit as "kids content"
0 likesWhoever likes the way Youtube is being run is either lying to themselves, or they're getting paid to say that
0 likes@Blubber Nubber no
0 likesYeah!
0 likesSo a kid can’t hide what he is watching by making it small when mom or dad walk by lol
5 likes@Red Dawn 1 oooooohhhh
0 likes@Atr0 still
0 likes@Jimmeh Rulez nope
0 likes@Red Dawn 1 no not true
0 likesConsidering what it considered children content
0 likesYou want children to watch THAT, YouTube??
The Boondocks clip with Jasmine's lemonade stand is considered for kids, despite having the word "hell" in it. This shit clearly isn't working out.
1 likeI remember a (now deleted) shitpost of Hatsune Miku covering The Next Episode got classified as kid's content by YouTube. Which is hilarious.
3 likesEdit: typos cause im stupid
the crazy thing is i was watching a documentary about yukio mishima and it said that it was for children.
0 likesNow I can't comment and discuss my favorite clips from animated movies. Thanks COPPA and Matt for taking away the ability to talk and share with others about our nostalgia for our childhood cartoons.
0 likesI wasn't able to save a video of an American stereotype in anime because it was "children's" content even though the clip had like ten f-words
0 likesYoutube Vanced is a godsend
0 likesAtr0 they could simply fix the mini player to not do that
0 likesSince Adolf Hitler did it
0 likesIf you want to save a song from a children's movie in a playlist you can't, can't even see the comments
1 likeEven though it's a children's movie from 3 decades ago...
same. i don't think it makes much sense. the only reason i can think of is that full screen is easier for parents to see what the kids are watching, while they could be watching something inappropriate in the mini player to avoid getting caught??? but any parent actually watching what their kid is watching would notice the kid isn't just attentively staring at the unmoving video list or something that isn't entertaining, they'd know.
0 likesBecause fuck common sense.
0 likesYou know you messed up when Nestle pulls ad funding. 1:05 Nestle the company linked to (child labor, slavery, etc.)
2 likesThe easier bit would be to ban any videos on youtube related to the younger crowd, wouldn't it? It'd be easier to handle it that way.
0 likesWhen youtube hitting matt hard, he hits back
0 likesIf we do one day track him down, he should be made to personally pay back the lost ad revenue of all the YouTubers he hurt.
0 likesYour theories are surprisingly enlightening. I was expecting the usual "failed youtuber argument"
47 likesWell done, lemon man
0 likesThe biggest problem is that advertisers listen to these petty people, when the consumer doesn’t care
1 likeHoly shit I didn't know I could hate so much a person I met only 11 minutes after
1 likeThat guy literally made it so I went from being able to make like 1-4$ a month from all my different channels to nothing because each channel didn't meet the requirements for subs but I had plenty of watch time and then the change in the gun rules on youtube finished off my gaming channel since you can't show reloading guns in a video BUT VIDEO GAMES HAVE RELOADING ANIMATIONS. so that fucked me. One day I'll get back to making videos. Just not sure if I want to make content on youtube at this point.
1 likeThe real wormhole were the friends we made along the way.
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Jacob Shultz underrated comment
7 likesThis joke will never get old.
2 likesI've been working on my YouTube channel for 3 years and haven't made a dime off my channel cuz I stand at 307 subscribers and I'm against this guy who calls YouTubers greedy for calling him out on it.
1 likeIncredible content
1 likeDamn, I almost forgot this controversy, and the schisty things happening behind lol
1 likeThe corporate shill makes sense, they wouldn’t pick a new account with no videos uploaded- the past videos of his were a perfect mask to sway suspicion.
1 likeHe declining interviews with all the news outlets further shows that his acting skills are up to par with the one note he kept reiterating, but not up to debating a true open questioning by reporters.
Final verdict: he was a failure on YouTube, so took a chunk of cash to propagate a corporation’s desire to renegotiate ad rates.
The core problem is the legacy media is leading YouTube around by the nose and YouTube doesn't seem to be aware of it.
0 likesNo wonder I couldnt find Half Life 2's 'CP Violation' around that time. Huh.
4 likes49:10 If this conspiracy was to be true, then they would probably need someone somewhat familiar with the platform to begin with but low level enough that he could swoop in. That would at least explain the older vids.
0 likesI think Matt is misguided. Well, he also comments on r/ChapoTrapHouse so he's also a lunatic.
6 likesI choose to believe he is an industry plant because that just seems like the most poetic truth possible
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You just defined the core of every conspiracy theory
16 likesI AM ALEX JONES
4 likesLove that both Wish You Were Here and the Hammers were briefly cameoed
2 likesYes, it is YouTubes fault that videos of children that aren't supposed to be up aren't immediately taken down. They can take down copyrighted videos, videos that upset them, etc but not videos that go directly against their terms of service? Come on, stop defending a corporation that'd throw you to the sharks.
0 likesIt could be theory 1 and 4 at the same timw, and maybe the company hires him to do this and he acceptes because he was angry.
1 likeWhat is so wired and wonderful about this video, the “corporate plant” theory accounts for the most inconstancies.
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It is also pa the most complicated therefore unlikely
0 likeslet's be honest, even when we demand that kids under 13 years old must not watch our videos, they're gonna do it anyway. I'm pretty certain a chunk of the people in this comment section are 13 and under.
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Damn, caught my little bro I'm watching this with,It's technically his 13th birthday, but he was born later in the day.
26 likesIm 13 and my dad owns youtube
27 likesWeegeeSlayer
0 likesHey!
Are you the guy I always see on Mr Enter’s videos?
I'm 25 but back in 2006 and 2007 I would watch stuff I wasn't supposed to
9 likesAnd yeah best thing we can really do is have a "are you older than 13 years old to watch this video" button
Because no matter what kids are always gonna get past it
@ImmaLittlePip Ah yes, the classic problem with keeping kids out of places they're not supposed to be...
0 likesParents have failed modern society.
2 likesMost of Emp's fanbase is older than 17, if I were to judge it off of his discord server.
0 likes"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world" - G-man Half-Life 2
36 likesA guy so fixated on this topic like he was, yeah I’d check his search history.
0 likesThis video should be seen by mainstream media
1 likeChannels like Pyrocynical have made videos combatting child endangerment.
23 likes"I used the child predators... to destroy the child predators."
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i mean we can say pyro is a true furry degenerate but its still unsure to call him a predator right?
15 likesDebatable
4 likes"There's some kind of Glitch in the Algorithm"
2563 likes"MOM I deleted the VIRUS!!!"
same energy
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A new skirmish crate is now available.
19 likesMy name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
54 likesNo I swear I wasn't looking for videos of little girls. It's Youtubes fault for showing them to me
79 likesWhat is with this comment thread
12 likesPhillip Khaing I know right
6 likes@AlinaGray88 pretty much sums up the whole controversy
13 likesCentorea 88 What a beautiful
0 likesDuwang
chew
@bah7789 k
0 likesexcept the glitch guy has a tolerable voice
1 like@bah7789 I can always count on jojo fans
0 likesMatt is a type of a guy who unknowingly or perhaps knowing wanted to kill youtube
0 likesthe only way to get youtube to do something is to hit them in their wallet, but remember that the companies will care about the children
0 likesLove the Doors covers, especially the Alabama Song. It sounded familiar and then I realized they're all Doors songs
1 likeSomething I noticed that, maybe it's a little minor, but he did that thing that controversial youtubers do where they put the camera close enough it seems like he's mad at YOU specifically unless you're with him. He keeps shouting into the camera, pushing his face in closer like he's accusing the viewer. Really helps cement the us vs them mentality. if you're not with me, you're against me, and if you're against me, you're with them, and that means you're with pedophiles in this case.
0 likesYouTube's politics in general is just interesting. It's like a struggling country (economically, political stability-wise etc.) in a way. No one in the leadership can agree on anything, conspiracies arise, and there's a lot of drama inbetween YouTube's leadership, the elite YouTubers and the commentary channels.
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Honestly, I hope we got a whole new documentary series devoted just to that. I'd love to know the story of how everything went down the shitter.
10 likesEurope be like
4 likesSo it's Boomtown in Minecraft: Story Mode
0 likesYouTube is 1920s Italy
4 likes@Mantha You mean like "Leafywashere"? That5 video had tons of info on commentary drama.
0 likesI believe he's just an irritated red-haired baby who couldn't get money from youtube and got salty
11 likesYou can tell by Matt's cadence and emphases that he watches way too much Joe Rogan
0 likesI mean, I'm all for a good round of big corps bashing, but straight up making up stuff is just disingenuous.
6 likesMy theory is that he worked at another company like Microsoft or someplace like that and was trying to damage his competitors.
0 likeswhen pyro is responsible for sexually abusive content getting removed, but still hasn't uploaded petscop 2
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shut up about petscop 2 and wait.
15 likes@Josie Mizuki No
120 likes@Josie Mizuki no
81 likes@Josie Pitts nO
48 likesJosie Pitts No
37 likesno
29 likes@Josie Mizuki no
29 likesNo
23 likesikr?
5 likesSo guys
21 likes@Josie Mizuki no
17 likesJosie Pitts No
11 likes@Josie Mizuki no
8 likesDON'T SAY THAT NAME
1 like@Jacques 10 we did it
4 likesBruh
0 likesBOY, DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU
0 likesI think next vid is petscop 2
1 like@mm665 We got baited
3 likes@Theo Rior we've been bamboozled
3 likes@Theo Rior fat cry 3 is good too but we want petscop 2
9 likes@mm665 Still haven't watched it ! can't wait tho ngl
0 likes@Josie Mizuki no.
0 likesJosie Pitts No.
0 likesWhen you bully Pyro on other people channels...
1 like@Josie Mizuki dislike
0 likesJosie Pitts no
0 likesDang that meme reaches far and wide, doesn't it?
0 likes@Josie Mizuki its been many years
0 likesJosie Pitts no
0 likes@Josie Mizuki Damn it he has promised it for so long.
0 likesThis comment hasn't aged too well.
2 likes@hello I'll Eh, it’s alright now. He has an inflation furry fetish and acknowledged he should have been more careful when he was younger. He’s a weirdo, but he’s not a nonce.
1 likepyro is guilty tho srsly
0 likesAs a left leaning person, and if Matt's true motives were to target right leaning folk... God damn, his tactics had the same effect as a drone strike... He hit his target, but also everyone else, leaving peeps confused about what he really wanted.
14 likesThere's ways of combating regressive, dangerous and/or bigoted aspects of YouTube... Matt's way is one of the worst
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Or
7 likes200 IQ take:
Stop going after anything you don't like because it hurts your fee fees. Ever thought of that?
Yeah. The idea that there is a right leaning 'pipeline' that gets ever more extreme is true, but it is also true for the 'left' as well as anything and everything else.
0 likesYouTube gives you more of whatever you like. If you like right/left political content it will give you more of that. And the more extreme you like your politics the more extreme your video will get.
I'm sure it's not hard for billion dollar companies to manufacture a persona for a few years until they need it for something.
0 likesHonestly I believe the corporate plant theory, and the old content just existed before he was recruited.
1 likeThis is aside from the point of the video, but great choice of music at 6:17 the lyrics in the second half of Alabama Song really fit with the context here, genius!
0 likesWhat I learned on EmpLemon today is:
213 likes1. Never trust a ginger
2. There's apparently a badass orchestrial cover of Whiskey Bar that I am now going to be playing on repeat
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It's not a cover in as much true to the original, which is an opera.
3 likesMITCH I think Emp was referencing the Doors’ version, as an instrumental version of Strange Days plays after Whiskey Bar finishes in the video.
4 likes49:30 is absolutely incredible.
0 likesI love that on his hit list of companies, Grammarly was spelt wrong (grammerly)
0 likesGoogle/Youtube is on the same page as all these other large companies; they don't need to fuck over an ally over a few bucks when they both have much bigger fish to fry and have the same agenda anyway.
2 likes19:57 Kik decided not to shut down after all. Reference: https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/tech/140878/kik-not-shutting-down-as-mystery-last-minute-buyer-for-popular-chat-app-found/
1 likeBy the way, I had a Kik, but I took it offline in 2016 or 2017, possibly the same year I started it.
Plot twist: He just did this for reddit gold
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edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger(s)!
237 likesLet’s hit r/all!
76 likesi've won, but at what cost?
32 likesnow this is wholesome keanu 100 chungus
80 likesNo a plot twist. It's a pretty tame way of getting reddit gold, compared with what goes on in r/Teenagers and r/Dankmemes
39 likes@L. Pietrobon what, begging?
7 likesReddit: The place where your opinion gets downvoted and censored if your opinion is different
27 likesJayRain
3 likesEh somewhat really. But there are some of us who just wants to browse r/wholesome and memes. Really depend on which side you hang out with :D
@L. Pietrobon or like posting a popular opinion in r/unpopular opinions
11 likesThe fact that its believable someone would do that is really sad
6 likesI overfed my cat and ultimately killed him from diabetes so I could post him to r/Chonkers and get reddit money for my chicken tendies
6 likesI can believe that
4 likes@JayRain that's just real life
0 likesEdit:thanks for the gold kinda person
0 likesMatt Watson has given us the wholesome ugandan chungus reeves sticked bugged and everyone liked that cause that’s what heroes do.
3 likesAfter watching both videos from Emp on the matter, I feel like this is the most plausible explanation. He just wanted to play hero and get rewarded for it.
2 likesLikely scenario. Reddit is like that. Their users are easily duped
0 likes@John Arbuckle dont know if you are being ironic or not but we are talking about reddit gold here
0 likesAnd the money he got from the video and his streams. The Reddit Gold and that.
0 likesHow does Reddit gold work?
0 likes@Fries you pay money to give a post or comment a sticker next to it that’s called reddit gold.
1 likeI would argue Industry Plant is the most likely explanation because of the media coverage, and it’s possible that he was a disgruntled YouTuber who was paid more money by industry insiders than he thought he could have made through ad revenue making videos.
0 likesWhat do you think?
@JayRain yeah! Because dislikes on websites are bad! Right guys? Right?...
0 likes@UnhealthyPills It’s not a dislike, dislikes don’t change how your comment is displayed and whether it’s shown to people or hidden. It’s a downvote which doesn’t let anyone else have an opinion that’s different. It’s abused and basically hides anyone that has a different opinion.
0 likes25:07 just wanna mention Matt speaking into the top of a Blue Yeti, which is cardiod and records from the sides
2 likesI don’t know why people don’t just make their kids use YouTube kids instead of allowing them onto the official YouTube app(which is made for people 13 and up) and then get mad when they watch something not age appropriate.
0 likesThis all comes down the mods were alseep. Sounds about right.
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just imagine, if one malding reddit mod caught him that night, all of this would've been avoided.
11 likesEmpLemon is my most trusted news source.
0 likesWhen "Think of the Children!" ends up treating everyone like children, our freedom gets compromised. But that's probably the point.
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Sorry to jack this comment, but if you reading this are in the US, please look into EARN IT, a bill that Congress is trying to pass that give the government more power to monitor citizens with the argument of "Think of the Children!"
25 likes+Space Sponge
2 likesThank you, I was unaware of this impending violation of my rights.
Their mentality reminds me of the quote from the amazing comic Red Son: "Why don't you just put the entire world in a bottle, Superman?"
Wow I forgot about this, great video Emp
0 likesI can’t stop watching you. Do I have a problem? I think I have a problem. I have a problem.
1 likeWell i guess YT is gonna be just fine now that they can play any ADs they want without the channel being on the partnership program.
0 likesthat demonitize blur scared the crap out of me like holy cow i wasnt ready
0 likesSo basically, don't trust controversies in early spring.
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It’s early spring...
59 likesUh oh.
26 likescoronavirus@euphoricful I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOF
17 likesMore like, don't trust controversies ever. There, fixed that for you
15 likes@Quixotes Ok Coofer
3 likesThink I might just go outside and get some fresh air, what's the government gonna do, stop me?
3 likeshmmmm......
0 likesPhilip Defranco coughed in a video towards the screen and now I have the Corona Virus. We should hit Youtube where it hurts
2 likesLove how when you talked about shitty plans you cut to dark knight rises bane💀
1 likeMan. This aged like a fine milk.
2 likesgod it is so weird hearing the name "Matt Watson" in this video, what with all the memes on the SuperMega channel.. It's simultaneously frustrating that someone would do this, and absurd that I can't hear the name without thinking of funny boi
1 likeMy theory is that Matt is a madman who did this for his own amusement.
0 likesI thought that Wasp Removal videos were a niche video category on YouTube. I'm glad you acknowledge it, since I really think the videos give great insight into the mostly misunderstood creatures. I'm glad YouTube's promoting the content to wider audiences. I'm generally a big fan of insects in general and I'm glad content like it is getting the attention it deserves.
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Dirt Rooster?
0 likesThe Virgin Wormhole vs the Chad Spiral
5 likesThe music you use as a score in here is fantastic, genius and hilarious! And then the Musak Alabama Song at the end! XD Perfecto👌 Amazing vid!
1 likeIt’s like finding a nest of rats on a cruise ship and instead of telling any of the crew about the situation, it’d be more effective to sink the entire ship.
0 likesWants to protect his identity.
8 likesLITERALLY HAS HIS NAME IN HIS CHANNEL TITLE.
Maybe the real wormhole were the friends we made along the way
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Maybe WE were all Matt Watson the whole time
123 likesMaybe Matt Watson never happened and we're really all dead having an acid trip in heaven.
50 likesMaybe what if this is all just a dream?
5 likes@bubbyberry just one hole, not all of the holes. Funnel provided for efficiency of course.
4 likesDoes that phrase is a meme?
6 likesMinecraft; the way home
4 likesSamuel Melcher whatever
1 likeTyler r grr
2 likesno
0 likesYou mean the same once who stabbed you in the back .
0 likesWhen you start to question basic stuff .
@LittleMissEevee thanks for sharing!
0 likesRoh Man ;
1 likeOr this gun I found
0 likesThanks for sharing
1 likeWho cares? That's besides the point here.
1 likeNah, it’s still was. You don’t say “the skittle were red before we put it in in water”
0 likesNotsoJharedtroll23 bruh this comment has like 3 tiers of memes in it
0 likesBruh
0 likesYeah ngl I still don’t understand how I have friends
0 likesmaybe this comment isnt funny :/
1 likeI just spat out my water laughing
0 likesi see this everywere but where did this start
0 likesI’ll drink to that 🍻
0 likesand he is my dad?
0 likesThat works too fucking well God dammit
0 likesI never tire of this joke. 😄
0 likesThat too.
0 likesWith the context of the use of the word wormhole here this comment is extremely disturbing
1 likeThe real worm hole is FAMILY
0 likes☠️
0 likesNo, I want my fucking wormhole
0 likesgod damnit why does this joke always get me
0 likesWormhole friends.
0 likes@Mr. Hst what do you mean..
0 likesoh
0 likes@ouch potato worms are a creature that live in ground
0 likesWell said. Well said...
0 likesLMAOOOO p
0 likesYT does have a responsibility. I like your content but you have a vested interest in making excuses for YT.
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He wasn't saying YouTube has responsibility. He isn't discussing that. He's investigating Matt's true motives for what he did.
0 likesDamn this was actually a good video
0 likesObfuscate, good word. I always love when people say obfuscate. 👍
1 likeAm I the only one who frequently comes back to watch this vid just to listen to the music in it?
0 likesGod bless your storytelling Emp. You’ve got the gift and always have me interested til the end!
51 likes"patrolling billions of users content is impossible" so uh, we gunna ignore the fact you cant even describe a gun?
1 likesomebody PLEASE link me the full video at 30:26! that sudden escalation is hysterical!
0 likesI'm usually pretty knowledgeable when it comes to YouTube drama and controversies...
0 likesI have zero recollection of this one. #WTFU, The Leafy/Idubbbz/Keemstar beef, the Logan Paul controversy, YouTube Rewind 2018, I could go on all day about those, but this. No memory of this...
20:58 Oh God, have you not seen one of the millions of posts saying “Tiktok and Instagram bad” for real? Reddit moment
3 likesI liked the part where YouTube gave no warning to the brand managers and brands before making them pay immediately after offering the services for free as an enticement.
33 likesIt's good to know YouTube doesn't give anyone warnings.
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Yeah, at least we aren't the only ones being blindsided.
13 likesTh-...that actually does make me feel a little better. I still don't think YouTube treats as equal but....maybe we're not as second class as I thought.
1 likeMy my, this looks familiar right now...
9 likesMan I love your music taste so much
2 likesI feel like this is comparable to Kony 2012 in lot of ways
1 likecan’t believe matt watson from supermega would do this
2 likesYou’re literally the best youtuber. Every discography feels even more professional than anything made on this site
9 likesCompartmentalization. You don’t gotta keep someone quiet about a conspiracy if they themselves don’t even know there is one or may be a part of one. Just because someone’s within the sphere a conspiracy that doesn’t mean they were a part of it. It’s like with the “did we go to the moon” shit. Everyone says there’s to many people involved someone woulda said something. And they’d be right. Unless all those people involved also believe that we went to the moon. You don’t gotta keep someone quiet when they all they know is exactly what you want everyone to know. And for the record, I do not believe the moon landing is fake. It’s just one of those conspiracies that are so monumental that people usually bring it up when talking about having to keep people quiet. Again, no one needs to keep quiet if they know no nothing. Need to know basis. That’s compartmentalization and conspiracy 101x
0 likesCan't' believe Matt Watson of SuperMega would do all of this
1 likeSince we're on the topic of "How did you reach this conclusion?!": Can I blame this guy for Raid Shadow Legends? Ads pull from YouTube itself and now favor speaking to Creators directly. Hence the birth of the 3 most annoying words in the English dictionary.
0 likesThinking stupid is my speciality 👌
He looked like an personification of an certain execration that society have.
0 likes"Some of you may die... but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make."
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lol
1 likeNo cost too great...
3 likes@Stuffed Animal Wars we shall Hollow out youtube of it's problems and make it pure
7 likes@Stuffed Animal Wars SHAW!!!
2 likesFarquad
1 like"We both said a lot of things you are going to regret"
2 likes-GLaDos
@JuanK Gonzalez thanks
1 like@JuanK Gonzalez sick genesis reference, the knife
1 likePlot Twist: Matt was actually an Industry Plant enlisted by Viacom in an attempt to take down Youtube out of resentment for their failed legal battle in 2007
0 likesI fucking love how there was a part talking about Political Radicalization and then you started playing JPEGMAFIA lmao
0 likesIf your job suddenly STOPPED PAYING YOU because a couple of people who you've never met were having an HR dispute, would you be totally cool with that? Because by painting Youtubers as self centered for getting mad about demonetization, this guy is saying you should be totally cool with that.
1 likeFrankly it's not their fucking problem if theres some bad actors on the platform, theres bad actors literally everywhere. Not to say that this problem doesnt exist, or doesnt matter, but why are you blaming people who are just trying to make a damn living?
and his lighting had so much potential 😞
1 likeThe day YouTube stops demonetizing unfairly, large music corporations stop abusing copyright, and the majority of the community likes YouTube communication, I’ll animate a full 12 episode third season of Konosuba in MS Paint. Mark my words.
272 likesThankfully, I’ll never have to do that.
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ngl id like to see that lmaoo
18 likesIf you do have to, start a patreon so I can give you $50 for your work
2 likesi would like that comment but it already have 69 likes so
0 likesHopefully, you'll honour your part of the bargain when that time comes
4 likesNever say Never
3 likesMy god. This will never happen, yet I yearn for it.
0 likesIf that happens, please create a patreon; we'd help you with it.
Cesar Alfredo The only things required would be the new version of Microsoft movie maker, Paint 3D, and the translated audio specials. Nothing there takes money, so a Patreon would be fully unnecessary.
0 likes35:50
15 likesI mean, redditors aren't difficult to manipulate.
I watch supermega and hearing "matt watson" thrown around so many times really throws me off
0 likesI love how he put doors songs in his videos
2 likesstill miss the shit outta you Mumkey <3
3 likesHoly fucking shit...why has it taken me this long to watch EMPlemons entire catalogue...this was class 😭
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Welcome to the train
3 likesWelcom to the spiral
8 likesThe thumbnail looks ugly. It's like it's intenting to be about horror and I'm not into horror, so I was avoiding it all this time...
2 likesWait a second I know you..
0 likesWelcome to the pit
0 likes@B O ꓭ Maybe it's ugly for you. But for me, it sticks out of the other videos in my recommendation. There is an air of mystique around the thumbnail.
4 likes@Based Ring-Squid I think the red border ruins it personally
0 likes@B O ꓭ Oh yeah the red border is not a good thing.
2 likes@Based Ring-Squid yeah, it looks to me like one of those videos that put borders with strong colors to try and call your attention, like red circles (like the one on the right) or red arrows, only reason I watched it was because I know emplemon enough to know that the content is NOT dogshit.
0 likesMaybe just accomplish the KISS method with just the red face of the guy, and it would be fine. It fills you with intrigue that way.
Otaku-Vs???
0 likesHave you seen the Stanislav Petrov episode of Never Ever?
0 likesLike a Stateside TRO! Just found EMP as well.
0 likes♥️💯
Man, thanks for reminding me how awesome the Ice Climbers music was :D
1 likeMatt would be a great politician
0 likesI dont think it would be hard for someone who fails at making original, funny content to make it big by instead jumping on the trend of Cancel Culture, Outrage Culture, and SJWs. And you dont have to be a creative person to recognize the one thing pretty much everyone would be against would be pedos, and there was an actual issue with creeps commenting on kids videos. I can see someone telling him about that, and then realizing he could re-invent himself as an outraged SJW activist. And videos like that in a climate of people looking for things to be outraged about, its no surprise it went big. I think he left when he realized people were starting to question him, that they'd just continue to question him, and just took the money and ran before he could crash and burn.
0 likesHonestly, I dont think it needed a giant conspiracy or backing to pull off. A guy who wanted to be popular, and was angry he wasn't, maybe specifically upset about what he thought was good content that was being ignored in favor of drama and 'exposed' channels, and he decided to find something to make his own drama/''exposed' style video about while riding off the outrage culture (which im sure he probably had run-ins with, due to people being offended by some of the shit in his videos - and was probably annoyed by). Anyways, Im not saying that is what happened, but just that it makes sense and wouldnt be that hard, especially for someone who already had experience making videos.
I've said this since the start of this video. He's a Vimeo employee.
2 likesThe fact that the background song is “Next Whisky Bar” which features the line “show me the way to the next little girl” is brilliant and slightly disturbing.
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And strange days
13 likesDon't forget about Want You Gone at 49:57 during the conclusion.
32 likesAt least it wasn't "Aqualung".
6 likesI recognized the melodies from the songs
2 likes33:30 is a remixed gary glitter song as well. Original is played in sports stadiums.
16 likesAs an 18 year old who is a fan of The Doors, despite them being from the 70s
1 likei sang along
Came here to say this
1 likeEmp is really good at background music
1 likeGet exposed
0 likeslookin forward to this season
1 like30:37
4 likesHe pulled a PBS themed opening on us. Lmao.
Watching this for New Years lol even tho I’ve watched it so many times
0 likesWhy am I getting the feeling that this was a psy op by a competitor?
11 likesThe Corporate Plant theory NEEDS to be a movie.
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tRUE
5 likesI think you might be interested in cyberpunk literature.
6 likesit would probably be better as a documentary on netflix or something
0 likestrue or not it's a pretty amazing narrative
3 likesI wish there was a Where are they now for mattwhatitis. I had ran into some of his YouTube videos years ago and then this whole incident .woah
0 likesyou can tell that this guy is really mad when he stayed up all night tryna get his video to blow up
0 likes3:27 took me about three seconds of "Hah?" before I clapped my hand to my forehead and wheezed for about 12 seconds straight
0 likesEvery decision youtube has made since 2018 have been excruciatingly terrible
0 likes30:53 can somebody give context to this? Or did Emplemon harrass a girl on the sidewalk?
2 likesTbh seems most likely to me that he was just an idiot who stumbled ass backwards into mainstream popularity and decided to roll with it untill it got increasingly out of hand and then jumped ship
1 likeSeeing the down the rabbit hole intro then hearing your voice mixed the fuck outta me
1 likeWhat form of power-
Nooo! Matt Watson from SuperMega would never do this! I pay him on Patreon NOT TO DO THIS!
0 likesMan, I’ve been on this site for such a long time. At times I feel like I’ve seen everything on YouTube, but emp always manages to bring up interesting points and things nobody ever gives a second thought to on the site. Emp is like a living YouTube archive at this point.
9 likes$170 million is nothing. In Australia, an electricity retailer was fined $150 million for door-to-door knocking sales tactics. USA's population is 13x larger than Australia's.
0 likesPlot twist he works for daily motion to take down youtube to be the best video sharing service on the internet
1 like🤔 since the “wormhole” is generated by the algorithm then kinda wonder wtf Matt was watching to put him in this “wormhole”
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Consider what he was parodying…
0 likes34:04
0 likesTo be fair not even I am familiar with the monetization mechanism and I've been on this platform since I was a kid, I've been a viewer since I was 8 but I've made videos dating back to 2012.
Emp, you knocked it out of the park on this one. I've been thinking for years that a lot of outrage on the internet was just a convenient outlet for corporate intrigue and this video makes the most plausible and coherent breakdown I've ever seen that makes me feel less like a man putting tinfoil on his head and more like a genuine skeptic who goes looking for an ulterior motive in outrage bait. YouTube Geographic is easily one of my favorite series on the internet and I hope you don't stop any time soon.
9 likesYoutube and Corporate Media needs to go away sometimes to just plain never.
0 likesSpinning outrage from stigma is easier than prying candy from an infant.
0 likesSo glad kik is gone. I was groomed into sending nudes at 13 to a grown man on there.
4 likesone thing, if this guy comes back, we all know what to do.
1 likeNo Mercy on his ass we basicaly will flood this guy with so many thins he wished he neve went back here.
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Emp did a followup video on the guy already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIYyQEbLtHc
0 likesTo put it briefly, Matt was actually just really, really fucking stupid. Also, is that an Acceleracers avatar I spy?
@G- -stef i know, but this is something from the spot
0 likesFunny how is never the parents responsibility to protect their own children…
0 likesImagine fighting against GOOGLE to take out child predators.
0 likesMatt's voice sounds like a less snorty DarkSydePhil.
4 likesI'm about nine months late, but could the point at around 20:50 be because the mainstream media is much less threatened by the business model of snapchat, instagram, and tiktok, than it is youtube? Youtube actively incroaches on video-based entertainment that NBC and other massive conglomerates thrive off of, so harshly criticizing them is a strategy for the older type (some millenials, but typically Gen X and older) to hopefully get a negative stereotype of youtube, and therefore default more to Netflix or traditional television. Not sure, maybe gone a bit too deep down a rabbit hole, but I think it could make sense. Snapchat, Tiktok, and Instagram don't have the same purpose or format as Youtube and television, so it could work
1 likeI feel like I should be paying for these on a site (but don't pls im poor). These videos are well researched and have such a high degree of quality that I have no clue how you get so many out on your own. Absolutely wonderful content man
27 likesI thought it was more about long term censorship goals and advertising dollars dovetailing nicely into each other.
0 likesThe irony of using an 8 bit version of a Gary Glitter song in a video about exposing paedophile rings
1 likeWOULD SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
3 likesEDIT: lol at breadtubers crying about far right propaganda being on Youtube, only they are allowed to hold a monopoly over political propaganda.
If Matt is leftist it explains why his was so flawed. Some of the most common leftist traits include but are not limited to: A completely black and white world view(they’re the good guys and everyone else are the bad guys), cognitive dissidence(specifically an inability to think of certain ideas as being in any way valid or true even when objective evidence for those ideas is presented to them), and a lack of critical thinking skills(never questioning leftist ideals and beliefs even when they make little to no sense and/or deny basic facts). If Matt is a leftist then it makes sense why his plan was so shit. He’d view what he was doing as inherently good because he’s a leftist, never think his opponents had any valid criticisms, think his actions could never hurt people from the groups leftists so often claim to protect and to top it all off he would never question any of what he did or thought about any of this.
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Take a shot every time you read the word left in the comment section
0 likes@Paper Stackwell cry about it
0 likesSo what I'm understanding:
305 likesJanuary is the least profitable month for youtubers, and February is the deadliest time for youtubers
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What we can be predicting: the entire year is just shit.
16 likesfebrurary march deadly virus april comet on its way yep great year
0 likesThought this comment meant Emp would say Matt was dead.
0 likes@MrX At least it's going to be 4/20 for the rest of next month
1 like16:16 I don't think is damning, I mean we're all human, I wouldn't focus on smiling when reading something like that, I would just read. Keep in mind I'm commenting this before watching the rest of the video so take it with a grain of salt
0 likesthis is the 2nd time i woke up to this video for some reason, and i'm having some really strange dreams about McDonalds :/
0 likesIts incredible how you use all of my favorite artists ás background music...
0 likesAnyone who screams "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" isn't thinking of the children.
0 likes19:56 Fact correction: Despite the articles that came out talking about Kik shutting down some months ago, Kik is still up and usable by everyone.
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Yep, it was bought by another company
11 likesI had made a kik account years ago with a picture of my girlfriend at the time, we were 16 and when I finally ended up looking at it like a year later, people had sent me loads of the most horrible pictures you could imagine asking for pictures from my girlfriend. Kik is a problem
16 likesSupplemented Health duh. Don’t use other people’s pictures without permission either.
1 likeCartmanbrah where did I tell you I used pictures without people’s permission and sorry I wasn’t aware when I was a child I didn’t know what the underground of that app was
0 likesCartmanbrah ...dude...it’s the internet.
0 likesThe Sunshine Group you’re the internet 😎
0 likesWhen you said wasp removal videos i felt attacked
0 likesThe real shame is that this wouldn't even be a problem if parents actually took care of their kids instead of just handing them a phone.
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It happened with TV, and its already happening with phones and laptops.
2 likesParents will always be lazy it seems...
Good Job putting Justice - Let there be light on the background!!
1 likeWhy does it seem that any controversy has political ties? It also often seems to use right winged political figures as some scapegoat. If you do simple research it’s obvious youtube leans left on the political scale and often times punishes right winged content. If there’s any advertisement issues, it’s the issue of political favoritism. People who upload content that is “politically incorrect” as comedy are often punished and put in the same bin as right winged people. Categorizing groups is the worst thing to do. YouTube’s advertisement is clearly flawed, but the only way people hear about the issue is YouTube itself in most cases. This has made it so those who have issues with YouTube will be blacklisted by YouTube, but if enough left news networks bring it up, YouTube is out of control, so if you want something to become popular, be liberal, be “woke”. For all we know YouTube could’ve been working with Matt to make them seem more woke by “taking action” after being called out. Im not certain on everything here and these are my observations, and I don’t claim that any of this is concrete factual evidence, but I do claim it as observations.
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i seen more leftist content getting recommending to me rather then right wing ones
0 likesi feel like he is just a troll but he didn't know what to do at that point or he failed as a troll and stopped
0 likesincredible research
0 likes30:53 the single most comedic sketch of all yime
0 likesWE DID IT REDDIT!!!
0 likesI have a genuine question. What is your process for writing a video essay such as this? Every video I see by you, despite the extreme variance in topic, is extremely well done - well put together, well researched, well-executed. The quality consistently amazes me and I just want a bit more insight into how you do it.
13 likesperhaps the real wormhole was the friendship we built along the way
0 likesYou know what's really weird
3 likesThere's a shit fucking ton of videos of babies and kids on YT, most often uploaded with generic "fresh from the phone" titles like MOV [four to six digit number] or AVI.
They aren't necessarily explicit in content, and most of them are just like people who are potentially unknowingly uploading videos of their kids and family. "Foolish parents" etc. These should only really only exploitable by highly dedicated sickos with active imaginations i guess but it's one if those odd things. The platform just reflects the users really
I get the feeling that when it says that YouTube is for “Young people” it means Young Adults
3 likesmatt needs a pop filter
1 like"hornet nest removal videos" -Ah yes, a man of culture.
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Gotta hate those guys who think hornet is void.
7 likesNever trust a man who talks into the wrong side of a Blue Yeti
1 likeplot twist it's actually "Matt and Ryan from SuperMega?" combined into basically just Ryan with ginger hair and keeping matt's (Watson) name, before splitting back to their respective body after completing Markiplier's devilish plan...
1 likeMatt Watson was just a prophet delivering Montizon’s message.
0 likesCan we take a second to agnowledge that this video has a literal banger soundtrack
0 likesThis is just one big reddit moment right here
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the hive mind of reddit
71 likesThey are so desperate to hear "We did it Reddit!" that they don't really care about what it exactly was that they 'did', just that they did it. Same deal with when they thought they had the boston bomber. Same deal with the dead body in the Hong Kong 97 game. Jumping to conclusions because it's far more satisfying to have a conclusion, even a wrong one, than to have loose ends.
97 likesZdena Musil 4Chan has managed to pull off shit that was legendary while Reddit is trying to get some of that “we did something factor”
37 likes@Predator 20357 4Chan can be real scary when they have a motive. Reddit just follows whoever promises them to do "something" like a bunch of sheep. The rest of the time they're both just a toxic wasteland
30 likes@Predator 20357 But, 4chan is the far better one of the two. You can say whatever the fuck you want and it won't be traced back to you, there's more freedom of speech, and there's no stupid "you need 100 karma points to post on this very exclusive and respected subreddit" bullshit.
26 likes@Predator 20357 how we can forget when /sg/ called an air-strike on isis
21 likesWe did it Reddit
0 likesBruhddit
2 likes@Xanthopathy yeah, b is full of coomers who try to destroy anything that is not related to porn, is really sad
4 likes@Xanthopathy We must await until the 2020 elections end to return, as alway in every fucking election of USA
0 likesedit: ThaNkS For thE GolD kinD StRanGer
2 likesReddit is such cancer. Even the CEO has admitted to remove comments that didn't align with his political views.
8 likes@Predator 20357 I want to hear or watch those legendary stuff I have never heard off
0 likesEdwardo Franco Okay, first look up Internet Historian, then type 4Chan next to him and you’ll find some of their things
0 likesBetter than gayFAQs
0 likesThis was just a psyop tbh, I’m convinced
2 likesRule number of the internet: always be skeptical on the internet
0 likesDid anyone catch how he said “I concealed my identity BECAUSE, i reached out to buzz feed...” like what kind of diversion nonsese is that😂
0 likesReminds me of when the pizzagate nutjobs on Vidme got super upset just because Vidme's staff didn't remove a video as fast as they preferred.
1 likeMoral of the story: blame Reddit for everything
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The world would've been better if plebbit had been removed, even 4cuck is 10x better than plebbit.
47 likes@Officer Sack Reddit is perhaps the last bastion of true amateur, indie porn since Tumblr start wearing a rainbow-dyed burqas.
15 likes@Officer Sack inhale.
5 likesAnd say: OKAY COOMER!
Reddit is an echo chamber hive mind with who knows how many agencies pushing different agendas. That site is toxic as fuck.
18 likesLe R E D D I T M O M E N T
2 likesBruh
2 likesI just use reddit for video-game community posts the rest is aids
Imagine being basement dweller and admitting that 4chan is superior in every way.
0 likes@Umi ZoomR
0 likesBecause it's true
Every emplemon video is a banger
0 likesMatt: "I don't like FOX News"
1 likeGives identity to BUZZFEED
Bruh, what the fuck?
You know, I'm kind of starting to respect Keemstar.
0 likesMaybe he really had no motive, and when he opportuniny stroke, he tried to milk it, and to not get caught and get exposed as a fraud or a villain, he just backed off with his money. How much money he could have got? $100'000? That is pretty a lot. Of course, he could milk it even further, but since he wasn't a real professional he just backed off and continued having a normal life.
0 likesWhat if matt secretly works for Vimeo
2 likesi love the tf2 memes and refrences in his videos
0 likesYet nobody wants to talk about that exact same problem happening but way worse on twitter
0 likes18:40 this is also a violation of Reddit's site wide rules regarding vote manipulation. He should have been banned from Reddit as a whole.
0 likesMatt was the very definition of someone who didn't actually have good intentions and was just angry and wanted to take everyone down a peg it seemed. He wanted to be a hero it's hysterical
34 likes"The computers are EVIL!!!!" in a nutshell
0 likesEmplemon is underrated
1 like9:22 how the turn tables, oh right he's innocent, damn there goes my joke.
2 likesi think i vaguely remember seeing something like this in my recommended back then
0 likesWhen he said he doesn't know how to turn the monetization off, man, I laughed so hard. I said "haha, okay, okay, nope, NOPE that's enough man, haha"
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To be fair its on by default.
2 likesbut even then its still super funny!
@Alienrun but surely he needs to put credit card and stuff
4 likesturns out option 2 was the accurate one
0 likesI didn't expect "Le Roi des Rats" on your channel to be honest ^^
4 likesI have an old channel, if someone paid me to make videos i'd probably actually make videos. So they industry plant theory sounds decent imo.
0 likeswhen he said nestlee instead of nestle i died
0 likeshonestly, it is pretty creepy how everything about the video was perfectly planned to make it go viral as big as possible, from the self reddit post , using current subscribers to bump it to the front page, the clickbait thumbnail and title to choosing a theme that quickly makes people angry and makes it very hard for anyone to speak against the video without recieving alot of hate.
14 likesI fucking love that tf2 meme XD
1 likeFunny, there is nothing in the news about him possibly being an industry plant
1 likeWhen a creator of youtube poops says your videos are strange, they are extremely strange.
0 likesFor a second there, I honestly couldn't tell if Keeps was a real thing
3 likes38:12 That is an amazing way to censor words that will demonetize the entire video, the way it worked with the pace of the video and the tone of the moment was perfect. Who was the editor on that part too? I kind of want to know, I can't tell if it's EMP, but this seems like a colab with another person.
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thanks
1 like@a rock Great work, thank you for your contribution to this video.
0 likeswasn't this the guy who single-handedly caused the adpocalypse and was scorned by everyone innocent in the whole drama
0 likesWas not expecting a documentary on a random flash in the pan to get spun into a roast of YT's shitty communication. It just feels like rhetorical whiplash.
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I mean the subject matter isn't exactly unrelated...
1 likeI agree, there should be a far left wormhole too, just to be fair.
1 likeWho the hell uses battery acid for their hair?
0 likesTheory: Matt Watson works for Vimeo
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Better yet: Vk
8 likesor the cia
4 likes4chan
0 likesgood one
0 likesAlmonds are hyperactive. Broken AI algorithm leads to creators getting shit soup.
0 likesAfter watching this, the world seemed to get a lot darker...
0 likesthis is just a youtuber getting offended about someone attacking at their source of income
1 likeI'm more pissed about how Matt talks straight into the mic
3 likesI don’t know about you guys, but I have never once seen an ad for Apple or whatever on a video and thought ‘hmmm yes, Tim Cook personally advocates for this Steamed Hams edit and I now want an iPhone’ or vice versa. I don’t think anyone but maybe boomers care about what content soulless corporations advertise on.
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not even corporations really care about this, the news could be reporting on a mass shooting but yet they still have adbreaks.
8 likesGoogle really needs to hold a Yes/No poll on their front page asking that question
5 likesSo they can tell the Buzzfeed and Trash Online Article crowd to shove off
i skimmed through the comments before watching the video and i thought the matt watson other commenters were mentioning was the sweet baby boy from super mega 😂
0 likesHow does he have so many different desks and camera angles
1 like"muh monetization" no, Matt, no; it's actually "my livelihood is under attack"
6 likesThe way he positions that blue yeti at the wrong angle and way too close to his mouth without a pop filter tells me everything I need to know..
0 likesI can’t believe Matt Watson from SuperMega would do this,,,
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Ryan: MATT WTF
50 likesMatt: Demonic screeching
Ah, so this is what he had to do to get Twitter verified.
28 likesNo don't worry, you're thinking of Matt Twatson.
7 likesAnd OneyPlays
2 likesRat Watson
2 likes@Gasse ?
0 likesSo what you're saying is that we need to do a #YouTubeWakeUp scheme on music licensing monopolies?
0 likesI looove this.
0 likescan we talk about the fact that Justice, still alive from portal, and GT4 menu music all made an appearance in this video? I just thought that was neat
0 likesYou know, thinking about it, this probably led the FTC to slam YouTube over the head about COPPA.
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I remember when they first implemented that and it basically fucked over half of the platforms gaming channels
0 likesI think the truth of this ordeal lies between all possibilities. Heres my speculation towards the whole thing :
118 likes-Matt started his channels as a way to combat the politcal/"extremist" influencers by means of making satirical videos as a way to take them down a notch.
-At some point, matt quit everything as his slow growth in comparison to the people that drew his ire was something that bothered him.
-At a later point in time, Matt's content is discovered by someone in a high place and he's later contacted by them. In exchange for his cooperation, he gets to help implement a massive change on youtube that directly hits the very people he despised, with all of the "child predator" stuff thrown into the conversation to make him see it as both a morally righteous obligation as well as a means to exact something of a petty revenge against his "enemies"
-Matt forever changes the platform by being directly responsible for making youtube an unsustainable job for non-left youtubers while feeling like a champion for "saving the kids" despite ultimately having being used like a pawn by the corporate elite who only sought cheaper advertising and the final nail in the coffin for the only kind of people thatd bother to bring unfortunate truths regarding the elite and their business practices to the public
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"unsustainable for non left creators"
27 likesLol
Antiyoukai the political right(auth n lib) has been fucked over by YouTube for a long time
25 likes“Unsustainable for non left creators”
27 likesI thought the LGBT community on YouTube got demonetized when they mention any related words to sexual orientation? Honestly any politics is what made Youtube garbage.
It's not that right wingers are getting demonetized more, they just scream the loudest. Most left wingers also get constantly demonetized which is why they have to rely on patreons.
18 likes@Spinnis You realize Patreon has a political bias.
2 likesMatt really proved his political incompetence more than anything here. He has no understanding of one of the cornerstones of Leftism; worker solidarity. He was so concentrated on destroying YouTube, because he saw it as "problematic", to the point where he fucked over his fellow workers (YouTubers)...
8 likes@Sam Price My exact thoughts on the subject. Sometimes people outside the status quo get coopted into serving it, (which is obvious, but needs to be on the record, here.) And furthermore, its not uncommon for Neoliberalism to use various radical groups to control each other, to pit them against each other. Some of my fellow leftists have argued that fascist movements are often fed by Neoliberals or Classical Liberals specifically to combat Leftists in the field without having to commit state resources towards keeping us in check.
2 likesBad take: "Matt forever changes the platform by being directly responsible for making youtube an unsustainable job for non-left youtubers"
3 likesThis take me cancer. My favorite left wing video is censored on Youtube. Even people who are only slightly left wing have trouble monetizing content. Right wingers aren't an oppressed minority.
I mean, EmpLemon pointed this out, that Leftists got skewered, too. And honestly, if he had only made it hard for the far, far right to make it, I'd be perfectly fine with that, because agitating for mass murder should be illegal.
1 likePeppermint Gal I’m confused.
1 like@Tuffluck Can you say "strawman?" Centrism has mass murderers under its belt. I'm more concerned with praxis than theory. Mass murder is bad praxis, unless your goa is mass murder, in which case, I don't care what flag you fly under, you're not a comrade, and you're probably an imperialist, left, right, or center.
0 likes@Massimo De Grazia You, too, need to work on your reading comprehension before you insult other people's intelligence.
0 likesthose catcalling clips in the car were soo cringy. Like I know it happens unfortunately but I can't imagine what the hell is going through peoples' minds when they do it
0 likesMatt: is gone
0 likesVideo length: 55%
Me: how
The song "whiskey bar" was expertly integrated to this video just wanted to say
2 likesYoutube Geographic video
1 likeSquidward sets up lawn chair
55 minutes
Squidward puts lawn chair away
Long live the Emperor of the Lemons and his documentaries!
66 likesAfter learning about Operation Mockingbird nothing would shock me.
0 likesTHATS INSANE!!!
1 likeAs far as Matt Watson's identity, I do hear a Canadian accent. Maybe that could be a place to start.
0 likeshe did sponsorship warfare with youtube itself before keem and h3 fought
0 likesInteresting... mostly how I've never heard of this guy at all.
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1,000,000 subscribers for no reason? Yeah. Somehow the entire drama went over my head.
15 likesConsider yourself lucky.
4 likesSame here
1 likeI've only heard of him because he has the same name as Matt Watson from supermega
1 likeI remember when that video recommend to me, but I didn’t watch because I thought it was about the whole elsagate thing, but turns it was something worse.
0 likesThe algorithm is really "forgetful", something that I think really worsens the platform. Regardless of subs and the weight of your past viewing habits, your feed quickly becomes unrecognizable based on one or two videos, and the feedback loop just reinforces it. I never had the cp sketchiness wormhole but from history videos to gun stuff to right wing 2a shit throwing, sure. Likewise with conspiracy theory stuff, outrage over any given subject, even demonology/supernatural stuff after watching some creepypasta stuff. It might be indiscriminate but the potential for seriously gaslighting vulnerable people is undeniable, exacerbated by the tendency for mentally unwell people to isolate and do things like sit on youtube. You'd think some of the engineers would try to balance the need to optimize for clicks with concerns for users' wellbeing and the general quality of the experience, but the metrics don't necessarily tell that story
1 likeThat instrumental version of Alabama Song was awesome.
1 likewait, did "CP voilation" (the song from half life 2) uploads also get targetted? cause that would have been hillarious
0 likesI love the Strange Days remix by The Doors in this!
0 likesEdit - ALABAMA WHISKEY BAR
He did this, then he left game grumps. I can't believe it.
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What?
2 likes@kaivitee15 Matt Watson is also the name a member of the Let's Playing Comedy YouTube channel SuperMega.He also used to edit for GameGrumps then he left
147 likes@Dutch Junk and that's the joke
51 likesSupermega’s editing was the last vestige of funniness on Game Grumps. Now they’re gone, and so is the humor
28 likes@Evan Larson dude chill
1 like@Nonis He seems pretty chill bro
12 likes@Evan Larson thank jeebus we still have Oneyplays
6 likes@Liquid Mike oneyplays is like if game grumps was injected with pure autism and I love it
5 likesI'm sorry emp but bald people are proven to be 1000% more powerful
0 likesEvery time I hear Matt Watson I think of Matt Watson from Supermega
1 like6:48 my favorite part
0 likesalright the last third of the video devolved into crackpot conspiracy theorism but i get the point
0 likes"Glitch" is a stupid word. The algorithm operates exactly how it should.
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That is a stupid statement. When ever have code worked perfectly? There are and will always be bugs, glitches in any code written by fallible people.
27 likes@Varangian af Scaniae Technically not a glitch.
52 likes@Varangian af Scaniae What is the glitch then?
14 likes@green of tree black of blue exactly. just because something doesnt work as intended does not make it a glitch.
26 likes@Varangian af Scaniae Sounds more like an exploit than a glitch. Exploits are using mechanics as intended to produce unintended consequences; glitches are unexpected mechanics with unexpected consequences.
23 likesPardon me for straying from the subject of your original comment, but this is how I feel about people upset at the Electoral College.
1 likeIt may not work in a good or reasonable way, but it’s safe to say the algorithm works as intended.
1 likeAnd yes, these are the same questions as with the Electoral College. “Is it working?” “Is it working as intended?” “Are its intentions good?”
Not how it should but how it works
0 likes@Varangian af Scaniae code works however it was written, wether or not it was written correctly according to the user’s intent. Bugs come about because of crappy coding, coding that’s been written improperly.
0 likesGood video!
0 likesLet's be honest, even if he was 100% correct, nothing would change.
0 likesWould the current reddit ban fiasco be just a continuation of this?
0 likesMatt dyed his hair and went back to being Jon Bois
0 likesAs usual, the truth is a mixed bag.
85 likesIt seems obvious to me that matt was a disgruntled youtuber that wanted revenge on the platform. Thats how he started it. He had the knowledge to get that final bit of content viewed, and thats where his influence ended.
After he makes and posts, an opportunist looking for a corporate advantage took advantage, scaling the video well past where it wouldve originally gone. People blame the reddit hivemind for everything, but the reality is that default subs are sold to the highest bidder, and that reddit itself is so deep in the stink (and profits so immensely from the process) that they have no real ability or reason to change that. A few thousand bought upvotes later, and the (coincidentally) excellently timed controversey is now the big thing on reddit.
From there, its a wink and a nudge to a couple affiliate news networks to push the story wider, regardless of what the crrator did or didnt send. Once it becomes mainline newsworthy, the remainder of the media follows suit because modern news outlets are lemmings. And of course, no interviews are necessary - matt himself wants networks to be the loudspeaker for sharing, not the platform to share on, and the networks are happy enough to satisfy their hate boner for youtube without needing any further info, so why would they pursue an interview?
Bing bang boom. One unremarkable coincidence later (the video's publication relative to convenience for marketing budgets) and you have your manufactured controversey.
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Is there any youtuber that doesnt fit your initial description ?
0 likesdidnt read that, but you're right - the truth is almost always a mixed bag.
2 likesWhat about the "ridding right wing reactionaries of their platform" narrative? What about the points emplemon brought up: Matt clearly had knowledge on how to promote content, why not use that knowledge to make better content and change his channel around?
3 likesMy theory is that Matt wasn't a "failed youtuber". He was simply doing youtube for fun, he never intended to "make it". But he felt more and more dissatisfied with anti-sjw incel types getting attention on youtube. Seeing as he didn't really care about his own channel, he decided to use it to fake this controversy and then abandon youtube.
@Asuka Langley Soryu Honestly that sounds kinda dumb , an ad pocalypse would hurt everyone equally.
1 likeAnd is not like the carlos maza thing were the outrage was stricly political
This series is litetally Jon Bois' Pretty Good but for YouTube Geography
0 likes31:28 im confused, keeps is a real hair loss thing. Is this a real ad or some sorta meta joke? its so consistent I can't tell
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It’s a real ad.
0 likeshe might not have been planning this, but he may have been approached. Just some e-mail or maybe he met someone at something where people who politically think the same might meet and then he just offered himself as someone who could pull it off as he already had a youtube channel.
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would explain the sudden appearence and disappearence and his attitude perfectly, if it was sheer hatred for youtube than he would react to youtube tweeting out an apology like it was a gotcha moment instead of a reaction more resembling being scared or surprised. Like he is not allowed to display his emotions but his mind went like "oh shit this might not work".
0 likes47:07 this music also appeared in a hidden mobile game gem called datawing, mayor nostalgia flashback
1 likePersonally, I am under the belief that it was started to hide something since things could be readily ignored in front of a larger controversy. Without a doubt, I can bet you someone had put him up to this; who remains a mystery. The fact is that people will question him and not really who is behind him. If you consider the fact he had already been on the platform that would leave a trail to follow. The fact of the matter is that trail is a dead end other than the fact of raising questions. Most likely someone saw that he was not too successful at first and seeing that he wanted a way up most likely financially someone took advantage of a face. What I figure happened is someone coordinated his stunt for him as in his live streams and videos himself he seems very obvious when trying to explain away something that would contradict his statement. The other genius moves at very well placed times and the right topics seem almost too good for his person unless someone was telling him what to do.
15 likesSpring is coming in 2021, waiting to see if some new notable controversy about Youtube advertisements and the algorithm pops up again...
0 likesyou know pretending to save kids while actually seeking to make money is quite a common thing now that i think of it
0 likes6:15 holy shit the backing music is Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar) by The Doors
0 likesI love this channel
Edit: 54:00 THERE IT IS AGAIN
9:26
0 likesHe betrayed his own kind
Except not really
Always be cautious of those who say "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!?"
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Like video games..... Children are very good Scapegoats.........
5 likesYes
0 likesAnyone wanna do a group sacrifice of Matt to the algorithm
1 likeReally love the Doors man loved the video
1 likeLet me tell ya it’s pretty easy to blend in with a common name
1 like"influencers"
3 likeskinda cringes me when I think how we casually refer to popular people online as if they were like, social prophets or something ngl
the funny thing is this was probably meant to be more of a current events video as he was writing the script, but It became a history video by the time it was published.
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Well, looking at this Excel spreadsheet with the whole timeline, it's not unlikely. However, even if that was the case - it's for the better that Emp has put the video on the back burner and waited for the situation to develop (because Matt's following absence is also a factor here).
9 likesI love This channel
1 likeRemember when wars were fought with sticks, stones, steel and even shooty sticks instead of pieces of paper and numbers and people on a screen
0 likesThe music in this fucking hits 👌
1 likeYoutube controversy: Forgettable as Disposable
0 likesThat'd make a good thumbnail
Love the high quality editing of these vids. Its honestly what keeps me coming back.
24 likesOkay. Im in love with all the doors covers. Links. Now 🤲
1 likeGoogle gave Matt 10 million, signed a gag order, and Matt said f them kids I’m outa here.
1 likeVideo: “predators were using instant messaging services to communicate directly to children”
1 likeAudio: Mr sANdMAN BRIng mE a DreAM
Serious question. Why do you switch from claiming youtube "doesnt make the big bucks" to citing 15 billion in revenue?
0 likesI know you’ve heard this a million times, but I really like your style of editing. It’s shit post levels of insane, but somehow you have my attention and I take you incredibly seriously when you do your videos.
17 likes20:52 I just noticed this, what is with the police man's hand that looks like it would hurt
1 like6:48 Best part.
0 likesI don’t know why people don’t understand that mass flagging works because it does
1 likeImpecable music selection once again.
10 likes"It was a trade between the corporate elite, a trade that YouTube tried to hide. A trade, if known about, would set in motion the collapse of the site." -A quote copied from Browny Mapping
306 likesYo that 8-bit remix of rock and roll part 2 is actually fire
0 likesEmp can you fix the pastebin? Miami discarded you used is the uncut version
0 likesBest intro ever!
0 likesThis script seems to have the stench of YouTube PR.
0 likesIve watched a ton of emp lemon and this video is probably my least favorite it ignores the entire purpose of child endangerment and instead somehow manages to drive off a cliff on everything emp lemon is supposed to stand against.. Its using selective clips to drive a narrative? Somehow that narrative becomes he's a corporate plant lol? Advertisers should care about the .001% of content their brand appears on? At the end of the day he promoted site wide change at a temporary hit to creators wallets. Finding fallacies to shit on him doesn't change anything. Being mad that this issue was pointed out to no change before is just stupid. It got pointed out and it changed systems in place why are you downplaying this because he's a moron? Who cares? I saw his video when it was released and I didn't go tweet at advertisers. Just because someone advocates extremism doesn't mean their point is invalid. As to saying his entire purpose was to lower ad rev costs... Jesus man.... honestly just a disappointing hot take
0 likesFunny how this spring we have a Keemstar/ H3 ad controversy...where H3 subtly attacks brands for who they represent...
5 likesYoutube? An invaluable tool for financially unstable people to "have a voice"?
1 like*Laughs in 21 subscribers*
Holy shit the first 16 seconds of this video. Great opening
0 likesThis guy was literally just a master troll.
162 likesAnyone know what the music at the end is called? The music that intensifies at 54:39?
1 likeI feel like his entire statement / bid for attention was a deep, desperate Freudian slip and subconscious cry for help.
0 likesDid Matt fully write the e-mail at 15:41? Because he hilariously misspelled Grammarly.
0 likesIs it Youtube's fault tha....
0 likesyes, yes it is.
my head snapped from my laptop to the tv screen as soon as i heard that 1 second clip from :the game:
0 likesI cannot believe you actually did this to someone. Im fucking laughing. 3:47
0 likesfunny that the lyrics to the song you played when you showed the huffpost article goes: "well here we are again"
0 likesMy man sounds like a mix between chills and the scout from tf2 lmao, great content though
1 likeMy favorite wormhole is the wasp removal wormhole
1 likeNow here’s my question is how come I’ve never seen this video before
0 likes25:04 "no matter what your politics are"
0 likes"I don't like the fox news"
"This is about CHILDREN"
so what your saying is that this man was a failed youtuber working a sabotage mission for the behilnd the scenes... are we in a movie?
0 likesFascinating video!
0 likesComprehesive and informed
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Lies and deceptions always end you up creating hell. Beware all for every action has its consequence.
0 likesThe corporations will pay sooner or alter.
May your life be for the pursuit of heaven. Try your best and God will reward your heartfelt actions. The Lord is merciful and He just wants what’s best for you if you let Him work with you. We all choose heaven or hell ultimately.
Trying to forcing an ad boycott is like gun control it’s going to punish anyone but the criminals
1 likeYouTube makes an enormous amount of money. Unfathomable would be a better word
0 likesWhy is this not the most popular series on YouTube. It is so high quality. It gives me chills.
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Because the avarage viewer would rather watch a man with a branded chair play video game and give base level reaction
3 likesHe sounds and looks like Calhoun from VGHS, if anyone even remembers that show.
4 likesReddit by its own creation was kind of destined to be a hole for propogandists as soon as it went mainstream. Social media in general is made to serve millions as a pose to being a place to share things with friends and family. because the latter has very little profit to it compared to the former. The entire internet has had to cater its content to offended small minded chumps with low attention spans simply because of the wide mainstream breadth of it. Its very much like walking into a walmart now, where the content is shaped in a certain way. The problem is unlike the walmart, where they want to sell you nerf soakers and chicken, social media has bad faith actors who want to capture your attention with headlines, or completely reshape the public understanding on stuff. You kind of start to realize that what all these websites share in common is that they give the most power to the original powerful people i.e. hollywood, politicians, and journalists. It kind of stinks of a conspiracy, but I think these things are so well known now you'd be hard pressed to call it that.
1 likeSomething I’ve notice is individual user carry more weight than other channels meaning someone like pewdiepie who watches a video or likes/commons gets booster more than if I’ve done the same my channels could be a basic 1 where pewdiepie would be a 10, providing a system that is very similar to “people who like ... also watch...” fill in the blank. There are many systems behind closed doors however it’s actually more apparent than the average viewer could relies however someone who spends 12+hours a day on YouTube can start to see the strings behind the act. I’ve been experimenting with this for years and actually got more involved the past couple years by making several accounts and tracking how they serve content most importantly never make more than one account on one device in order to get actual data I used my local library and used different computers and noticed patterns when using multiple accounts on one computer.
0 likesLove the adult swim "adult swim" reference
0 likesI love this kind of content, almost an hour of entertaining and informative content. keep those high quality videos up.
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Nevo D so true
0 likesGreat video, this guy was just one big advertisement
0 likesHe just trolled Youtube.
0 likesRusty would be proud.
Should have been called operation red hairing......get it?
1 likeIs this why I can't comment on any goddamn disney songs or spongebob episodes? Impressive. Can only hope to one day get an idea for a breakthrough video with a similar impact. How about "youtube facilitates fascism"? Find some ultra-conservative and racist videos and comments, rile people up, get conservative youtubers kicked out, profit? /emThinking
0 likesWAIT, so I'm not the only one who's found himself on the Wasp Removal side of the internet by accident???
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Everyone stumbles across it eventually, plus it's also quite interesting so it's not annoying when it does happen.
32 likesSorry my peasantry, but what is this "wasp removal" thing the gentleman is talking about? Made me curious, i like internet lore too.
4 likes@Drew Insur Don't know but I think when they remove wasp nests
7 likesHold on, are you talking about those videos where people use makeshift flamethrowers to burn them out? Those are pretty rad not gonna lie
15 likesheavy breathing
0 likes@Drew Insur
7 likesBasically exterminator vids occasionally get recommended and then we spend 30 odd minutes watching wasps nests getting wiped out.
Whatchu mean "accident"?
1 liketheres is one guy who does the nest removal and then takes out all the wasp larvas individually and feeds them to his chickens, it sounds disgusting but its oddly satisfying/ interesting. I think it's also more interesting because its not like a normal big youtubers video where who knows how much is scripted and its the same jolly act, this is just some real ass dude working a real ass job doing his thing and uploading it.
0 likesI remember finding it from a video by moistcritical and ive enjoyed it so much since then it's so weirdly satisfying and interesting
0 likes@Alack i thought it was a euphemism for something else... lame. But then i watched, cool as hell
0 likesWas there any mention of “Punishable by Law” ?
0 likesSounds to me like a guy with serious bipolar disorder who just had all the right ingredients cooking for him when he was about to go off.
0 likesTheory: Matt Watson is a comedy channel
3 likesThis was all a FUCKIN JOKE!
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But it wasn't funny at all
1 like@Anonim nobody said all comedy channels are funny tho
3 likesThe guy got probably caught and had to act outraged
0 likes"You just care about the money" as he simply makes a monetized and controversial video that affects others when he could have easily contacted youtube with this.
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Have you ever tried 'simply' contacting Youtube? LOL
14 likesAs reported in the video, YouTube is an anonymous entity itself with no spokesperson or face.
I SELL SALT
0 likesCan I buy some salt please
I SELL SALT What kinds of salt do you carry?
0 likesI believe Matt is the CEO of Dailymotion
0 likesHe nuked the moon just to find out what was really at the center of it,
0 likes20:49 Uhh dude, predators can use all of those to view and communicate with minors
0 likesI can't tell if i've already watched part of the video or not!
0 likesit’s like if someone vandalized a billboard and then people tried to arrest to the billboard manufacturer for “giving them a platform”
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yeah
0 likesThere' wouldn't be a visible, above the line vandalized property without the billboard, so in the most strict and literal sense, yes the billboard owner has to own to it, and clean it or remove it paying their pocket.
2 likes@lasarousi you're insane. lmao.
5 likes@ivybloomz you just call can't put 1 and 1 together.
0 likes@lasarousi yes you can it's called 11–
7 likesIt's almost like inanimate objects aren't too blame fit the actions of people using them.
1 like24:00 has a lotta awareness goin on
1 likePyrocynical trying to combat child endangerment... ironic
3 likesbut like, why was he even watching little girl videos anyways?
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hmmm
0 likesBest adpocalypse ever.
0 likesIncredible as always emp. I’m so glad that you’re willing to do the deep dive on this kinda stuff. You easily are one of the best content creators on the platform.
4 likesa band named the Garbodors? amazing. pokemon rules
0 likesThis is the first I’m even hearing of this lmao
0 likesThe music, as always, was very based
0 likeshe looks too much like the wholesome science air dude Tom Stanton. this makes me sad.
0 likesThere’s a thin line between villain and anti-hero, and MattsWhatItIs drew a squiggly line over it all the way to the finish line. And it was a fascinatingly weird ride for YouTube’s community.
23 likesAnd he can't even use a blue yeti properly
1 likehow the fuck did I missed that
2 likesThat dude Matt Watson not only looks & acts creepy af but he is creepy af.
2 likesthis man must love Alice in Wonderland
0 likesI KNEW that was a very, very fishy person behind that whole entire thing, I didn't know it was this fishy. Thanks for clearing and exposing much more stuff than I would have looked into!
8 likesWhy isn't this video named operation. Red hair-ing SMH my head
1 likeMatts voice sounds disturbingly similiar to DarkSydePhils...
3 likesAlternative Influence; because God FORBID someone publicly expresses a political opinion that isn't the exact same as yours
2 likesWhen you ask how time exist.(15:28)
0 likesAka: Emp finally explains to Mumkey and Rusty the problem with Reddit.
175 likesAlso damn that's a lot of LCL.
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@Tanner Lindberg I'm confused, I thought they were already in agreement about this
0 likesSmaurf maybe they are now but in the original SOTY podcast series mumkey and rusty displayed an innate and frustrating misunderstanding of reddit and Redditors. Some real boomer tier shit
20 likes@John Byerly I'd say it was both this and also Emp not being the best at explaining his points on the spot.
8 likesEmp’s attempts to articulate why Reddit sucks were toe-curlingly awful, even though I agree with him that it does.
2 likesAs awful as reddit is, it should still exist for containment purposes at the very least. Remember what happened to tumblr?
0 likesJust realised the third song is 'show me the way to the next whiskey bar' lmao
0 likesemplemon attacks youtube, emplemon defends youtube
0 likesA lot of people dislike YT for various reasons. I think that the silent hate carried it further. I know a lot of people who knew better, but went along with it because f-goog or f-yt (for very varied reasons). I think less people were 'fooled' than you imply here.
0 likesThe problem of "Help a reporter out" where people can write your own "news" copy is one worthy of its own video (and congressional inquiry).
Oh so this is why they decided to punish everyone instead of just saying "YouTube kids is right here and we aren't accountable"
0 likesEmp, love your casual insertion of "Whiskey Bar", hilarious and quite relevant!
170 likesdidn't this video come out way before march 27? is this a reupload? or am i just loosing all grip on time and space?
1 likeme: plays ssb online
0 likesliterally everyone I go against: 31:45
You used cyber lords in the video which is my second favourite song made by papa garbodor
0 likesWhat is the song that's played at 31:10 during the add for Keeps?
0 likesBeen trying to find it for a hot minute!
Incredible video Emp. This one stands out. Your content demands a higher level of critical thinking than most are willing to use as a youtube viewer, while supporting your claims with visuals absolutely masterfully. This video really streched my mind muscles out and made me think. Thank you for making what makes you happy, it makes all of your real subs, as opposed to those pesky "empty subs", very happy as well to recieve mentally enriching content from their fav former pooper. Keep it up. I look forward to all your future content.
5 likesKeeps is so good it's in my milk!
0 likes9:23 well that aged well...
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bahahahahaahah
1 likeWrong
1 likeWRONG
0 likes@Gametmane my comment aged well too...
0 likesMatt isn't a media shill, or a failed youtuber, no, he's a lot worse than that... He's a redditor.
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Moist
0 likesIronic to have a Gary Glitter song playing in the background (34:00) of a video about child exploitation
1 likeYou never stopped making YTP, you just improved them till making them an art
45 likesDamn . Matt was kinda based
1 likeEXCUSE ME, DID YOU JUST USE GARBODORS MUSIC HOLY SHIT
1 likeI hate to say this but, at 30:26 that is a lot like the tirades & tangents I use go off on, when I still drank. The pills made of poppy would make me like that as well, glad that's over.
0 likesdude, i was on TikTok one day and there was a pfp of a little girl stripped I'm not gonna get in detail but shit that's nasty as fuck and horrible and there are no mobs I see more pedos on TikTok duets its nasty as hell its sickening i deleted TikTok and all social media and I just uses text
0 likesDudes gonna wake up with a horse head in his bed and a note saying "Susan sends her regards"
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Prof Yoshie what mob movie is that from anyway, kiddo?
1 likeI forgot it’s some weird good shit.
@Tony_ δυτικός αμυντικός The god father
8 likesI tried to focus on the content of the video but kept finding myself head banging to the rad polka rendition of the Alabama song lol
0 likesMy theory is that Matt was just an idiot looking for fame and pulled out after seeing what he had done
0 likesI 11 days between announcement about Youtube pulling out additional funding and start of campaign is way to low for such big plan to be made. Even assuming someone knew earlier, like month earlier. 70 articles at once? Thats a lot of people to push.
0 likesI Wonder how much my view is Different because of not being affected by usa history with corporate propaganda
He reminds me of the main character of that Yik or Yif game. I think it was Yik. I already knew he couldn’t be trusted based on that
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BRO SOMEONE GETS IT
0 likesIt's YIIK. Two "I"s, because that's so artistic.
1 likeThis video is astoundingly convincing. You're a great writer, congratulations for making something as well produced as this.
21 likesAlso, having to be on the same side and relying on Keemstar really shows how that Matt dude cornered YouTube. Damn.
aight watched it to the end great video
0 likes49:10 yeah but this reminds me of the viacom thing when they almost had their $1B but they did that stupid move
0 likesI heard Matt Watson and immediately thought this video was about SuperMega until I saw the picture of the guy lol
0 likesIf it's not their responsibility, why are they claiming it is to shut down certain political views. YT is a bunch of hypocrites at the end of the day. ijs
2 likesDr. Spiral is my nephew.
31 likesGood to see him doing something semi-useful with his life. 👍🏿
guy was either manic or delusional or had some sort of power fantasy. can't blame the one loonie for causing an uproar, blame everyone else who bought into it without doing any sort of due diligence or even consulting common sense
0 likes36:16 Ugh, don't I ever know it...
1 likeI just want a consistent viewerbase, just a small following like I did before but even that's too much to ask for these days...
Lovely Video. Just one little thing, 21:01 You portray it as if Reddit never outrages on Instagram or TikTok. To this I can only say, my friend, have you ever been to Reddit? As far as I know, the Hivemind hates no apps more than TikTok and Instagram. Most Redditors wish for the death of TikTok there are so many memes about it on r/memes. Maybe you just didn't know but if you did... that's a weird choice of background there.
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He meant media/website coverage.
0 likes@C.I.A. Yeah ik, the choice of reddit there was just very ironic to me.
0 likesBruh that Mike Mozart snip during the ad got me
0 likesI favor the "butthurt failed youtuber" hypothesis.
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I think the "paid by corporations to fuck up youtube" makes the most sense to me. It explains why he disappears all the sudden.
86 likesIt makes most sense that it’s a combination of failed YouTuber and Corporate Plant
49 likes@ProGremlinPlayer yes me too and its impossible thats its a coincident that he came right after the thing between youtube and advertisers with the comtracts
10 likesWhy not both ideas they see this guy wasn't too successful and they pay him to start this lol ?
9 likesI actually stumbled on Matt's videos way back in March 2018. I was pretty depressed, getting into "self-help", and was actually recommended one of videos after watching a Tony Robbins Ted Talk lol
9 likesI can't remember if I subscribed to him (I was using a different account at the time) but I DO remember he had a loyal following and was averaging about 100,000 views per video (which I consider to be a decent view count when you're a fringe channel).
I remember when the YouTubeWakeUp video showed up on my home page and actually didn't watch it bc I remembered not really liking his pseudo-alpha-anti-fap schtick and honestly thought it was just the YouTube algorithm recommending me one of his videos a year after I had initially found his channel.
I was honestly shocked when I found out how big it was because I literally found this guy when he was making anti-porn videos filled with erratic rants, but like I said, he had a pretty loyal following.
He was anything but a failed YouTuber. A bit of a strange guy, but he wasn't a failure. That argument never made sense to me.
@Antony Chigurh I'm curious why he disappeared then. I don't think the corporate plant thing is impossible. I actually thought that he failed first, then just happened to be picked up for that job. Maybe he was a corporate plant from the get-go, and wiping his channel was just a requirement for the job.
2 likesEither way it's a shame. 100k a video is awesome. I would've killed to get a thousandth of that activity back when I tried streaming. They must've made him an offer that he just couldn't refuse.
Darkinin I was also a fan of Matt’s. From a couple years ago. Towards the end of his videos he was producing less and less content. Think he was just falling out of love for it or maybe even the depression was getting to him. There’s so many reasons if you knew the type of person he was. Oh and ppl are saying he was paid by corporations lmao. No not really. At that time he pretty much had left YouTube. But he came back with this one video that blew up and I guess it got to his head
1 like@Dom Klatt a failed YouTuber who got a call from a buddy in a big company
1 like@LoboCharity I don't see why it can't be both, either.
0 likesWelp, this video just became relevant again. #PickASideYouTube
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there are lot of similarities between the two, I wonder if EmpLemon will make a video about it
0 likes#PickASideYouTube seems to be legit motivated. I've heard MamaMax is actually actively working with law enforcement to properly clean up YouTube. The call to action on the other hand... Yea it looks pretty disingenuous (and people don't care much for the discount Punisher shtick). It's weird really. Least he's not going after the advertisers.
4 likes@AK Also google news doesn't seem to have the hashtag in any big news outlets. Only buzzorange (which isn't in English) and ghanafuo
0 likesPewdiepie really thought he started the adpcolyps lmao
1 likei just realized the title is also referring to matts hair color
0 likesWhoever this guy is paid by, he sure seems to hate the little guy
0 likesWow can’t believe Matt Watson from SUPERMEGA would do something so convoluted... 😳
16 likeshes right tho, youtube isnt a real job
0 likesthis is a real joe momma moment
0 likesbig love for the boards of Canada sample
0 likesTurns out he was as red as his hair
1 likeEmpLemon should write Netflix documentaries
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I bet the paid more than YouTube ever will.
3 likesThis is off topic but the beat at 16:30 was a beat my brother used in a song he made. This made me call him and now my day is 10x better.
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oh no, your last name is watson.
1 likeTypical Ledditors for falling for this
3 likesThis guy is definitely a journalist trying to hurt youtubers.
0 likesThis dude is just salty he could never make it on youtube
1 likePOV: You're watching it first for context
0 likesDefo a plant doing too much to prove he’s one of us
0 likesfailed opportunity to call it red hair-ing
0 likes>News outlets
1 like>Buzzfeed
By far the funniest shit in the video
Dude your music list is a GOD SEND. Please never remove this life saving information!
7 likesholy moly is that a
1 likeF R E D E R I C K N U D S E N reference?
we did it reddit!!
0 likesI can't believe Super Mega would do this
1 likeEven 4Chan can't get information about Matt. Smh
0 likesThere's something dark behind this guy's eyes, I get the feeling that hypocrisy is the least of his foibles...
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Oh uh, looks like we got a potential predator in the form of Matt Watson! 👮🏿♂️🚔
5 likesyeah, his eyes are rly dark
2 likesBig fan of the orchestral “Alabama Song”, Chief
2 likesI Like How The Title Looks, is Emp a King Crimson Fan?
0 likeswhat if he was just bored honestly i feel tha would just make more sense
0 likesI am only 7 minutes in. And i do want to continue watching but I gotta say this:
0 likesLet’s compare youtube to a newspaper since both publish and in some capacity or other broadcast content.
If the newspapers just had guidelines about what it can or not publish and then editorials or adds break those guidelines you bet that the newspaper will be held accountable for publishing that.
In the case of tech companies and youtube it doesn’t work that way, but perhaps it should. Perhaps they should be held accountable and these billon making companies should put more effort (even if that is manual human moderation and takes longer to publish something) in enforcing their rules.
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Sure it is not like youtube is actively seeking to encourage this behavior as Matt says but to say it is impossible to moderate is what I am against.
0 likesYoutube is trying to patch the issue with silly rules that cost pennies. But the content could be truly reviewed and moderated more effectively even if that costs more if youtube would be made accountable of what happens
Attacking the bottomline of the company is actually a great way to make them react and change their system.
0 likesThe argument of “instead he should direct people to report videos” is weak, again think newspaper:
Newspaper says oh i published that because nobody reported on it if people does then i will recall and reprint papers and all along not be responsible of what was published.
Weak weak argument.
how do you expect them to manually check the hundreds of hours of video that are uploaded every second? its just not possible to do with humans and its already being done with AI
1 likebut that often makes mistakes
Didn’t know EmpLemon was a big Doors fan
0 likesLove the Doors theme music
0 likesWait a minute
20 likesWormhole...
Spiral...
A YouTuber disenfranchised with the site... Perhaps someone who's ytps suddenly weren't doing well.
And we never knew his true identity you say?
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Well we’ve seen Emps face, so not likely. Not impossible however
8 likesCan't believe Ryan McGee is best friends with this guy
0 likesTheory: Matt just wanted to get more karma on a throwaway account on Reddit cuz he was bored one night and decided to make up a controversy
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"Make up" isn't how I would put it since the problem of child predators getting horny over these videos of children in compromising positions was very real, but if his intention was to generate a ton of attention/reddit karma from that situation then he definitely smashed that ceiling lmao
1 likeSalmonAniminim by make up I meant that a bunch of people had already talked about it and he decided to pretend that no one talked about it
0 likesThat indeed is a red spy
0 likesWhenever I hear C.P I just think of battlefront 2 (the good one)
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I think about s.c.p foundation
0 likesA yes let's defend YouTube the same website .
0 likesWho made dezmon is amezing .
And onsion
And the amezing athiest and his body count.
And the same company that got under hot water .
When the coppa story happened .
And every YouTube's start to shills for something they don't care about
Not like YouTube will even care about them .
Holy shit, its Matt Watson from supermega.
0 likesThe amount of editing and research you do for these videos is astonishing. I came across you when uploaded "Leafy was here" video and I binged watched your entire channel after. I'm very happy I subbed then you are what YouTube needs, quality editing, attention to detail, memes and good writing. I'm very excited to see what you cover next, you keep amazing me with your consistency for quality content. Keep working hard emp.
6 likesI don't really like the take here tbh.
0 likesIt doesn't really matter what the intent of Matt was, at least for me, or if he had any ulterior motives.
These kind of things that the algorithm of youtube facilitate are absolutly horrific, and we can't allow companys to hide behind the "Oh it's just the quirky algorithm uwu" excuse at all, ESPECIALLY if they themselfs developed, tested and shipped that algorithm and it's their most precious recource as well.
It's not "the" algorithm, it's "their" alogrithm, they human developers working for YT wrote it. And yes, cases like child abuse and child pornography that are a direct product of their algorithm they should be held responsible to the same standart as if they wrote any other piece of software that facilitated the same kind of exploitation.
I'm a software developer myself, working in a company that heavily utilizes AI and these kind of "black-box" algorithms and I can say with confidence, it's not going anywhere.
This issue with algorithms will be ever increasing and we need to start holding companies responisible to much, much higher standarts, before it is to late. This instace might be downplayed, but we have to pick up the fight and start somwhere and this could have been it.
Algorithms used to in the health care or car inssurace sector are using racial profililing to determ payments, even if things like "skin color" are not part of the data being fed in.
Modern, trained algorithms are findishly "smart", and we impart every bias we have into them, when we train them.
This is a not a issue of of child exploitation or of youtube themself, it's a much much bigger issue that will affect the entire world in the coming decades.
>voices ignorant “opinion”
0 likes>pretends to care
>over all hurts YouTube
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
I wonder which one of those Matt Watson's is the one from SuperMega
1 likeI love so many of your videos but it always makes your videos worse when you go on centrist rants against the "mainstream media". Like in your video about trump you railed against the main-stream media not giving trump any credit for the North Korea summit. It didn't work at all, they knew they shouldn't have given him credit because there was a precedent showing his actions wouldn't work. Then in this video, your entire section about leftist youtube having a theory about the right-wing rabbit hole led absolutely nowhere, and just felt like a disjointed rant against something you don't personally enjoy. Why did you mention the three arrows video? You said there was a reason but included nothing.
5 likesOnce again, love like 90% of the runtime of all of your videos, but next time you're complaining about left-wing bias or SJW's or Trump-hating, maybe examine your own biases. It would make your videos a lot more entertaining for a much wider audience.
Tons of media is biased and toxic and straight-up wrong, but (i haven't seen all of your videos so correct me if i'm wrong) you only seem to focus on fringe-left wing positions while ignoring the dangerous and widespread fringe right-wing positions and groups.
You sound like a more energetic Madseasonshow
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whoa
0 likesHumans are disgusting
1 likelet’s all just get an ice cream 😔
40:49 I feel gaslit, wtf is going on here? Why is "intel" censored? I know it's fallen from grace lately and everyone is on the AMD bandwagon (I've always been there cause I'm poor) but that's a bit extreme.
0 likesI dm'd him [Matt] on reddit lol. I wonder if he'll respond
0 likesFrom MattWhatItIs, to MattWhoItIs
1 likeNestlé pulled out? Lmao ironic because they love using children to make cocoa
0 likesEdit: oh... this was already addressed in the video lmao
So much for all those theories, maybe he was just an idiot like H3H3 and didnt care about the ramifications of his actions.
0 likeswhy does emplemon hide his face lol
0 likesf i was a company looking for cheaper ad rates,i'd definately pick a guy with a questionable youtube background. that way,when everything blows over, he could act as a scapegoat and most people would believe he did it to get revenge on the community
21 likesThis is like burning a Forest to kill some spiders
0 likesPlot twist, Matt got too close to the wormhole’s event horizon. That’s why he went missing
0 likes38:12 Naw bro I started by watching Shapiro and ended with SMG4: Mario Gets His PINGAS Stuck In The Door
3 likesbasically the same content
loved the instrumental Doors music
0 likesIf people are gonna use TF2 clips at they better make this shit popular again because valve won't update it
1 likeIs PC Principal from South Park based on this guy? The way he talks is uncannily similar
0 likes...a universally scorned activity
0 likesSure, that's why the internet is a den of iniquity
I still hate never being able to see any of the comments on any of my favorite childhood videos or songs. I wish they would let you see and comment on all videos if you are over 18
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That's because the vast majority of would-be commenters on videos made for kids, is underageb&
8 likesThere some South Park and The Boondocks videos marked "for kids". Actually most videos marked that way don't even deserve to.
61 likes@Wasted I've seen a few GTA videos marked as for kids as well, i can't even listen to some classic video game music on my phone in the background because it gets flagged. We might not have had the COPPAcalypse everyone was losing their minds over but it still hit the site really hard, not to mention someone i know LITERALLY UPLOADED CROPPED FURRY HENTAI and it got flagged
14 likesHell, I saw duck man videos that were calmed to be child friendly.
4 likesYoutube doesn’t seem to understand the difference between “videos FOR kids” and “videos WITH kids”. I can see how there may be pedophiles time-stamping under a video of a little girl dancing, but there certainly are no pedophiles lurking around in the comments section of “Kung Fu Panda - Oogway ascends”.
18 likesSadly the fact that any kid can perfectly lie about their age kinda ruins that....
1 like@MAYO MASTER thanks, you made me laugh
1 like@Wasted They're capable of recognizing specific games, even ones nobody's heard of ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qRCzIj9QEo ) so I THINK the goal is ContentID will categorize things too.
0 likescool thumbnail i wonder what the thought process was...
1 likeDont know if anyones mentioned it, i really dont want to scroll down in the comments to check but shout if you heard his epic music selection of The Doors :D
1 likeWhy don't you got more subs?
1 likeThis guy is literally Frank Fontiane
0 likesInteresting brass cover of “Whiskey Bar” by the Doors.
0 likesBedhead bearnie is correct
0 likesWait a minute that’s not meant to be red spy
0 likesI mean come on they picked a guy that looks like PC Principal
1 likeThese are like HBO style documentaries, they’re so damn good
31 likesTheory 3 sounds like some Mr. Robot type shit or like the plot to SCP-5555
0 likes11 mins in and i'm just realized that the music is the doors :D
0 likesI wanna go down the Wasp Removal wormhole.
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It is actually very interesting
0 likesHonestly, my hypothesis is human stupidity. Some idiot nobody had a manic episode, concocted this weird plan to fuck YT over, the media took advantage of it and the situation spiraled out of control. The industry plant hypothesis is now discredited as he came back and no other hypothesis can fully explain all the factors. For me, its a combination of disillusion with the platform, anger towards the right-wing and human error. The media and advertisers then took advantage of the situation to score a goal against YT and give advertisers the perfect excuse to demand higher premiums upon returning. Unless Matt one day comes clean, we will probably never know his true intentions.
0 likesConsidering his history of satirical content, perhaps the whole thing was meant to be a giant, sick troll, a parody of YouTube, or at least his perception of YouTube, itself, and the whole thing got out of hand. As said, we will likely never know.
Rick Mays was a great voice actor. His voice acting work has appeared all over the web including in the intro of this video. Rip Soldier
17 likesYou're just jealous because he has more subscriber.
1 like-Leedal Alejandro Lee, 2022
The Doors AND Boards of Canada in the background? Good stuff
0 likesEvery time you hear wormhole take a shot
0 likesYikes the pyrocynical part has definitely turned sour
0 likesMatt seems like he's an SCP who breached containment
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steve cooper He’s one of the physiological manipulative scps. As he’s able to draw a crowd and convert people to his side despite flaws in his “research.”
6 likesUnleash the Femur Breaker
4 likesGod dame, Matt is the fucking Joker. LMAO; bro no one knows who he is, his true identity hasn't been discovered, and he fooled millions into some elaborate scheme. Dame, I don't know if I respect it or what, but it's funny as hell to me at least.
0 likesThe theory👆 is that Matt was hired by some person or corporation
0 likesBut which one?🤔
Ngl, for a random redditor who wanted to change a platform he had little connection to, he sure had an extensive list for contacting advertisers that partnered with YouTubers
0 likesThe guy yelling about K-Pop during the ad break is exactly how I imagine the stereotypical Redditor to look like.
0 likesHe is the gman because he caused chaos on a whim, then mysteriously disappeared under the cover of the said chaos.
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Except that Gman doesn't lead things.
0 likesWhy did you have to do the bald thing, man :[
0 likesThe herring... IT'S RED
0 likesmaybe matt watson isn't even his real name
0 likesexcellent video, could it be possible that the truth lies somewhere between theory 2 and 3?
19 likesmatt couldve been using a fake alias for his channel and ultimately had a political goal in line [that sounds like the most factually consistent theory to me], and perhaps using his proffesional connections with companies and news media, he agreed to keep quiet and delete his edgy content as a small price to pay for potentially ceasing the funding of everyone, inclduing far-right youtubers [the "lesser evil" so to speak].
Or the company simply used this random that stumbled by for their corporate gains. Guess we'll never kno at this point
me when i hear the nexpo music
0 likesgets hot chocolate and blanket
sick boards of canada jam at about 40:08 lol
0 likesgyroscope is the title for anyone wondering
google's plant to exert more control over content
1 likeTo quote the dukes of Hazmat theme song "everyday is my brithday "
0 likesIt's always a treat when EmpLemon uploads.
12 likesI know the algorithm is garbage, if you watch one single meme video about alex jones, it'll start fucking recommending you jones's entire channel
0 likesIm starting to think emp is a The Doors fan lol
0 likesThat instrumental of Alabama Song 🔥
0 likesHe was a channel centered around nofap before he made those vids. The channel in which he posted the “YouTube Wake Up” videos on was his original channel. That “first channel” is his second one. You can just go look at how old the two channels are. It’s crazy cause I’m the only one who knows this cause he deleted all of his old vids and no one dug them up at all.
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Funny. Almost like Matt is trying to hide something
0 likesaaaahhhhhh, what a gem!
19 likesi remember his video getting recommended to me right about when it came out; i watched a lot of similar commentary content at the time, but his video rubbed me the wrong way. the overall attitude towards corporate culture, as well as the methods he chose for promoting his agenda seemed kinda weird even back then. never got another video of his recommended ever again. it is, of course, suspicious, but i’ve never imagined this wOrMhOlE to be this deep..
it makes a little bit more sense now, thanks
can’t wait to read all the conspiracy theories in the comments
The veered into some pretty shitty conspiracy theorizing in the last quarter
0 likesMy theory is the whole thing was to get free Reddit premium
1 likeWow, I never knew this guy was a Chapotard lol
4 likes19:10, Mister L'amour (Mister Sandman) by Adalbert Lutter Et Son Orchestre 1957.
0 likesregarding the last theory: would it really be far fetched to think of this as youtube's version of social media "bots" (like fake accounts with enough background to confuse for a real person). Here in Mexico it is known as a very successful strategy to the point where we know they swarm all platforms as important events unfold related to government. The main difference between other platforms and this one is that the algorithm would not help the swarm of bots do their noise as everywhere else.
23 likesi straight up did not pay attention to the part of the video when justice was playing in the background.
0 likesNice video and Ganondorf meme!
0 likesDownward spiral? More like downward wormhole
0 likesHe might have overdosed on testosterone
0 likesHey look, YouTube Geographic isn't dead! Always a good day when Emp uploads!
32 likesand their answer? youtube kids and coppa
0 likesabsolutely useless to solve the problem
Plot twist it wasn't a wormhole, but a downward spiral
0 likesworst part is that he uses express vpn instead of nord vpn
0 likes40:00 IS THA MUSIC FROM MY ALL TIME FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE SINISTER!! I LOVE THIS
0 likesMy man Emplemon out here with the true journalistic pieces instead of all the rushed bs there is out there these days. Rep +
3 likesMe who’s never heard of this:
0 likesHow did I not notice any of this
1 likeThat shockwave thing...
0 likesWas it the video or my Birthday
take a shot a shot every time he says disgusted in his video
0 likesEmpLemon is the ONE YouTuber whom I hurriedly watch whenever I get a notification for a new upload. Keep up the good work, Emp.
5 likes37:18 playing jpeg over this lmfao such a perfect
1 like33:40 Garry Glitter playing in the background, nice touch.
0 likesYeah I think "Line Goes Up" used a similar reddit solicitation strategy
0 likesYoutube does make a lot of money. This one kind of made out youtube isn't financially viable. It is haha.
0 likesI actually thought this from the start, I made a post on Reddit and got down voted instantly lol
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Sounds like Reddit
178 likes"why dont you think of the children?!!?"
57 likesthats reddit for ya
26 likes@Freidheim of Krolastern That's just people, not even anything related to social media.
35 likes@Mr. Clean cartoon network forums are far superior tbh
14 likesReddit's downvoting system is inherently flawed because it hides posts with unpopular opinions. While it can hide things like spam (rarely), or hide obvious stupidity (like blatant racism), more often than not all it does is shut down actual honest conversation.
41 likesDon't use Reddit, kids.
@PON PON PATA PON reddit is a massive website with many communities sk it really depends. But yea, a lot of people there are quite smoothbrained and are more than happy to shut down oposition with downvotes.
16 likesSometimes you're right and no one will listen - that isn't an experience exclusive to reddit
4 likesYou can tell who and who doesn’t have Reddit downloaded if they have a capital r or not
0 likesYou really like the Alabama Song eh? Keep up the good content 😊
0 likesWell what do you know this rings some truth now 3:57
0 likesDon't get me STARTED on wasp removal videos
0 likesWhy was Matt looking at videos of children in the first place?
1 likei have to ask... whats with his eyes? is it post editing or is he on something?
0 likesThe dark side of MundaneMatt
1 likeOnly watching this so i can watch the other one
1 like30:25 Important message
0 likesMatt: "Nobody on YouTube is doing anything about pedos, you all only care about money!"
20 likesAnxietyWar: "Am I a joke to you?"
That Pyro part has aged like milk.
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I was looking for a comment calling out the furry groomer pyro
2 likes@Please enter a name oh, I wasn't aware of the furry part. but yeah.
1 like@Kwaite Funi Yeah it makes the situation worse, he is a groomer, and a furry.
1 like@Please enter a name that comment aged like milk
11 likes@Hateful Gaming yea
2 likesincase you dont know, "cp" means cheesy pizza, nothing special, but it does taste really good.
0 likesWhat the fuck I just got a ad that was from the official Rick astley YouTube channel and it was never gonna give you up the full song! WHAT THE FUCK!
0 likes17:27 @le roi des rats a l'époque youtube avais déjà régis a cet vidéo ^^
0 likes@EmpLemon YouTube did react to the video but later on Le roi de srats figure out that the problem not only is on youtube but on every social network all of this just to find out that its impossible to stop 12 years old kid neivly posting Gym exercise video and then this video to be shared by some weird network of guy posting comment like "continue to upload please you look pretty"
This guy is the reason people can't have nice things due to "Think Off Duh Chillins!!!" mentality that leads to unnecessary Scorched Earth Policies.
9 likesHe sounds like a YouTube-equivalent McCarthy
0 likesShould prolly be rabbit holes and not wormholes
0 likesmaybe one of his videos became part of that wormhole.
0 likesThis video hits different after Pyrocynical-allegetions
0 likesThe virgin wormhole vs The chad downward spiral
0 likesCanadian Pacific was also affected
0 likeshis old videos seem to be parody oriented, maybe his original video was a parody that went too far?
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Could you imagine doing that, like, I've took lies too far but never lies that affected that many people
0 likesIs it bad that I had never heard about this until now?
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It's even worse if you never connect that to Keemstar v. H3H3
1 likeBut I bet you see the effects it on YouTube somehow. Like disabled comments sections on clips from kids' content. At least now you know why we're here.
0 likesI wonder how much money he made by doing this. "I don't know how to turn off monetization", riiiiiight. This could be your actual explaination right there, it was essentially a heist. Get in, whip up a frenzy to get the views, cash in, disappear into the darkness with the ad money you made. This one seems to fit pretty much everything and has no need for an elaborate conspiracy.
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Except for his reactions. I think maybe it was a heist of sorts and he wanted to sink youtubers at the same time. Then corporations took it over in the news-space to make a tidy buck.
31 likesAbdul Masaiev setting up a live stream and making a video ain’t hard cause it’s more widespread than setting up monetization on your channel. I can start a live stream from my PlayStation or my iPad, doesn’t mean I know how to monetize those.
5 likes@tph_dragon I mean, yeah. Setting up the monetization is the hard part, so "I don't know how to turn it off" is some weak shit when you first need to make the effort (and have the know-how) to turn it on in the first place.
5 likes@Abdul Masaiev is that how it works? I genuinely have no idea how monetization works from a creators perspective. That's why I thought his argument seemed legit.
0 likes@tph_dragon Essentially what you do is first you need to qualify for being able to run ads. Once you do though you can turn them on in the video settings (the usual autodemonetising caveats apply, being a whole other topic). Turning them off is a matter of going to that exact same place where you turned them on and again clicking the exact same toggle you clicked before. Maybe it used to be different some years ago, I don't know, but I doubt the difference was such that you could turn them on and then be completely at a loss as to how to turn them off. My guess is that even if you had to go to a different place to find the toggle, it was still the one toggle either way.
4 likes@Abdul Masaiev oh damn. I didn't know it was that easy. I just always assumed that turning it on and off were different and that you didn't have to turn it on to be monetized. Thanks for clearing that up then.
0 likes@tph_dragon Yeah, no problem. Though full disclosure, I'm not somebody who personally has any videos with ads, this is just some of the random knowledge I picked up around the place, in bits and pieces (and there were a lot of them floating around when everyone was in meltdown about the adpocalypse, you could get some serious peeks behind the curtain). If you find out this is actually all horribly, horribly wrong, do let me know, but the official youtube tutorial page for turning off ads for a video seems to confirm this.
0 likesYes, lets make money on youtube by working everyone into a frenzy and contacting advertisers, thereby hurting ad rates for everyone, including yourself, flawless! I'm not saying he didn't want to profit off of what he was doing, but the idea of making some quick cash whilst at the same time hurting monetization doesn't really make much sense. It's like emp says, if he knew how to manipulate reddit to get views, then why not do it for his own content? It's not a flawless argument since the motive doesn't really make sense considering what his interest was in. If he wanted to whip up a controversy for a quick profit, then why do it in a way that harms your method of getting money from doing it?
6 likes@Abdul Masaiev The thing is you have no evidence he even made a considerable amount off of the ad revenue, let alone the idea that this could even work as a heist. We don't know how early ad rates were effected, so we can't prove it one way or the other. Also the reason him knowing how to manipulate audiences is NOT a point in support of you is because you discount the fact that he'd have more to gain from using it as a way to grow his channel rather than for a big controversy which only gives him a limited amount of time to make money before he is forced to cash out. You would accept that if you actually cared about being objective rather than trying to win an argument. Your hypothesis is practically baseless and is only supported by the idea that he may have been lying about not knowing how to turn off monetization. The other hypotheticals have far more going for them in that they actually present evidence, such as his reddit posts, and draw conclusions from that rather than making a single massive leap of logic. It's like saying "a wizard did it" is the best explanation for everything because it doesn't require you to think about anything. The only reason your hypothesis isn't a "grand conspiracy" like the others is because you're making an assumption off of a single statement and then ignoring any possible flaws, unlike the other hypotheticals that accept there are still parts that may not add up completely.
2 likes@Captain Weekend It's true I discount that. I do so deliberately, and I already said why. Repeatedly. The scenario has him being done with youtube, and so pulling a heist as he goes out. Why would that scenario possibly care re: "but what about his channel grooooooowth"? There never was going to be any since in it he was already planning to get out, for whatever reason. So funny thing, that's half of your big rambly reply completely missing this most basic point. Missing the point is pretty much your primary theme, really, since it continues to go on and on, with a small side order of general wrongness. Not one (not a single one) thing you said is in any way on the mark, nor do you even show any signs of understanding what it is you're even trying to argue against (or even any willingness to obtain that undertanding so you could maybe actually argue against it)... nor any signs that this fact bothers you or slows you down in any way.
0 likesI've been on this internet merry-go-round before, I know exactly how it goes, and I know what outcomes come from what choices here. I pick "I'm out". Feel free to keep talking and maybe tossing some more insulting insinuations my way though, if you find rambling into the ether in that manner fun or therapeutic.
@Abdul Masaiev You're completely missing the point because you've already come to your conclusion before even proposing your hypothesis, unlike the others you're building the evidence around your conclusion, rather than looking at the evidence before drawing a conclusion. You can say that he maybe wouldn't care about channel growth to justify your hypothesis, but to say it doesn't factor in at all is basically you saying that your hypothesis is correct, which then ceases to be a hypothesis at all and is you just saying something is true despite lacking the evidence to prove it. Sure, for the sake of your hypothesis we can assume that he was looking to get out, but that doesn't suddenly make any argument against it suddenly invalid. You have no way of proving it was his intent to pull a youtube hiest, that's the point you miss completely. Honestly you're just resorting to ad hominem to ad hominem, which makes it pretty rich when it's basically what you're accusing me of doing. Your hypothesis is bad, and throwing a tantrum when someone points out a flaw in your argument makes you look incredibly juvenile. Maybe grow up a bit and learn how to have a conversation like an adult, you can disagree with someone without getting personal, after all, part of the reason for proposing a hypothesis in the first place is to find the flaws, not plug your ears whenever someone disagrees with you, but I think it's safe to say from your response that you don't understand the basics of hegelian dialectics.
2 likes@Captain Weekend I'm just going to say I'm very amused that you actually went ahead and did continue to ramble your nonsense into the void. Hope you realize that nobody will ever read it other than you. I certainly have no plans to.
0 likes@Abdul Masaiev Okay dude, good for you, I'm sorry you took this all so personally, have a good night.
1 like@Captain Weekend Well, hope your future internet interactions go better. Going over how this went down could show you some things which could help with that, but I empathise with you being in no mood for advice from me so hey, have a good night yourself, and good luck in the future.
0 likesWhat a debate
0 likesAllegedly...Someone in his life caught him with questionable material and he said he was just researching the evil and then he went on a warpath when it turned out to be lucrative for his channel.
0 likesMatt Watson from the epic comedy duo called SuperMega?
0 likes26:04 Uh-oh, the Kramer event
0 likesow the swirl thing hurts my eyes because its framerate is choppy and also it's kinda bright :(
0 likesIt's not called a "Wormhole" it's called a "Rabbit hole"
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Failsafe Ziprar my old youtube comments suck It’s called a DOWNWARD SPIRAL
78 likes@Jack Kaczmarski this
6 likes"Nah mate, Will Smith bought the copyright so now its the Will Hole!"
13 likesRabbit holes imply lots of things to find (hudden chambers more videos) wormhole implys bringing you straight to a thing (like watching one meme video and suddenly youre being reccomneded a ton of memes)
18 likesWormhole is the right word for the red head to use
@siren typer Actually, the correct word would be black hole, if it’s inescapable.
0 likes@Lizard with internet i apprciate the clarification but i didnt say it was inescapeable, as i wasnt implying blackhole. im sure theres some metaphor you could apply blackholes to! <3
3 likes@Spongiroth EnaPants - EnaTenkiyoGaming Potężny as fuck man
0 likesNestle caring about endangering children : ^ )
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Lol true
0 likes'youtube is horrible and i don't want anything to do with it'
1 likeproceeds to upload to youtube
he looks like Jon Bois' evil twin
0 likesHelp I'm in the Melon E.M.P wormhole
0 likesI remember this happening actually it was crazy as fuck. A bunch of YouTubers were being affected by this and it ended in COPPA being forced to take action. Twas a crazy time for YouTube.
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Same. Everyone was losing their shit at Adpocalypse 2
2 likesY does Matt's voice make me think of DSP..
0 likesWhere can I find that "K-pop is evil" clip? I can't find it on YT
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Like pfp
0 likesJust search " WTF Gnagnam Style".
0 likesI’m pretty sure that was the “GINGERS HAVE SOULS!” Kid, try looking on his channel.
0 likeshow the fuck have i never seen that kpop clip before, gonna need to throw that one in the archive
0 likes11:16 that's a STAR_ thumbnail. "TF2: What game is this?" Classic
0 likesemplemon is the type of youtuber that you need to drop everything once he drops a new video
85 likesNever trust a ginger lol
1 likeWe should have boycot like this over usefull stuff like dislikes vanishing, not over how “algoritm works”
0 likes5:58 I wish I didn’t pause to read. My god I feel dirty.
0 likeswell shit can’t use the Pyro example any more
1 likei love The Doors in the background
0 likesStill a nice vid, bro.
0 likesThis is why you should never give Reddit power
0 likesEpic video
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Very Epic!
0 likesIn this dark time of misinformation and paranoia, what we need is a hero, a white knight in the dark... We need... YouTube poop.
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Because YouTube is, where the poop is...
23 likesYouTube Poop: Where there's smoke, they pinch back.
8 likesAnyone know where the Sam Hyde shirt cartoon kid Emp uses at 6:00 comes from?
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its from a meme comparing cumtown, opie and anthony, and million dollar extreme fans
0 likesim so glad you know :the game:
0 likesShow me the way to the next whiskey bar
0 likesAh yes, a red hair-ing
0 likesAlways question the motives of people and movements who say they want to protect children.
5 likesThis clip tho 30:26 xD
1 likecan someone pls tell me what its from?
Aha, a LeRoiDesRats reference in an EmpLemon vid ! sick
0 likesMatt’s What It Is? More like Matt What Is It
0 likesCabot, Arkansas is such a beautiful place.
0 likesHand him over to 4chan... They'll find him by 4 o'clock tonight.
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I doubt it, there is no meme potential
154 likes4chan is only motivated by memes or things that collectively anger them. In short, unless this dude was hitting people with bike locks, I think 4chan had little reason to care.
285 likes@Dr. Oofers "4chan is only motivated by memes or things that collectively anger them."
78 likesSo basically Reddit?
@mak0321
7 likesWhich is?
@JakeSpacePirate E Reddit and 4chan are two sides of the same coin. But at least on 4chan the site won't actively censor you for challenging people or shadow ban you for saying "soy"
187 likeswhat has 4chan to do with this though?
2 likes@Umi ZoomR he is most likely referencing the whole Shia Lebeouf He Will Not Devide Us thing. 4chan kept fucking with him and found out where he had his flags planted, and whatnot. It's so hilariously interesting. Id recommend watching internet historians video on it if you have the time.
107 likesThink more bikelock dude
28 likes4chan does this all the time, i assume. The ones that are meme-worthy become popular outside of it, but most of is just kept to themselves.
22 likesnypa
3 likes@NullJaegar Yep 4chan is SO much better...nope, couldn't keep a straight face.
5 likes@JakeSpacePirate E reddit once attempted to pull a 4chan and investigate the Boston Marathon bombing to try and find who was behind it. They ended up coming across a middle Eastern man who they harassed until he took his own life. Turns out he was innocent and completely unrelated. 4chan isn't that sloppy, when they do something stupid they know their limits
69 likes@NullJaegar They would if they could
1 like@JakeSpacePirate E better than reddit, place is a trash echo chamber safe space. Atleast in 4 chan I wont be castrated and banned from a sub for having a different opinion or for criticism.
31 likes4chan couldn't find anything on the guy. I remember some threads trying but nothing ultimately came of it. 4chan isn't one unified force guys, and we can't always achieve the impossible with our autism. Most of the threads are just porn and made up stories now anyway.
35 likes@TunedSquid Remember when 4chan doxxed a 16-year old because they found her annoying? Yeah, no, stop acting like 4chan is this perfect bastion of free speech. It can be a downright Nazi Hell-pit if you are in the wrong place, but not all the site is like that. The comparisons between 4chan and Reddit is very similar to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, they are both awful, but you will see the other side as worse, it depends which side of the coin you are on.
29 likesEric Moses guessing by the email he read from YouTube his first name is jayme . So half way there
1 like@JakeSpacePirate E Lmaooooooo brooooooooo are you seriously implying the soviet union is any better??? Holy shiiiit they were both awful. The analogy isnt even that good as you cant really equate both sites to these two countries. Reddit is bad because discussion isnt allowed. 4chan is honestly better off since at the very least people can speak freely but they can also be hella criticized, bullied, etc but thats just like real life where you can say anything but suffer the social consequences.
20 likesGo to tumblr, at least its ironically funny there
1 likeNYPA
0 likes@JakeSpacePirate E 4chan is reddit's edgy little brother
2 likesso yes
@sergeantgamerful did you read the comment? He said that the other is worse depending on how you look at it. I personally think reddit is worse but both are still have an awful and good side depending on where you are. 4 chan is definitely a more fun place with basically no rules while reddit can be good for some in depth conversations if you look in the right place. Again, i don't like reddit, but it'd be foolish and radical to say everything there is abominable
1 like@cat reddit was founded on 2005 while 4chan was founded on 2003. The former is definitely younger than the latter.
9 likes@Mmyr8ad O. Well, yeah now that I know that 4chan is younger I know believe that it is better. Makes sense.
1 like@Daniel Ferreira didn't 4chan bomb an isis training facility?
8 likes@SUCCI BOI they helped find its location, yes.
6 likes4chan good reddit bad, 4chan epic haxer personal army.
5 likesthis comments thread in a nutshell.
@NullJaegar isn't the word "soy" censored on certain boards?
1 like@JakeSpacePirate E you probably mean older right? 2003 comes before 2005...
1 likecringe
0 likes@TunedSquid okay, link to this post?
0 likesJakeSpacePirate E You mean reddit is younger.
0 likesAlso, 4chan is typically better than reddit, just saying.
It is I, dr oofers coming back to...I don’t know...come back to say that I’m still looking at this thread?
0 likesBasically I’m kind of the one who ended up steering this thread into what it is....or at least played a factor in it’s direction.
Either way, you can take it as an apology, or take it as a feeling of accomplishment.
@Lucas Goudin Yeah lmao
0 likes@mak0321 i think they meant reddit angers them
0 likesJakeSpacePirate E silence redditor
0 likesNot your army
0 likesASCENSION wowzers you found him
0 likesNo meme fuel + 4chan's being kinda dormant lately...
0 likesPlus youtube's normie central to their eyes so this doesn't affect them directly lol
4chan is not your personal army
1 likeWow Its not about the kids its all about the money in the end
1 like#YoutubeGoToBed
0 likesIs that Matt Watson from super mega?!
0 likesVirgin Wormhole vs
1 likeChad Downward Spiral
37:42 Guest speaker talking about radicalization via the alt right pipeline
2 likesThe music:💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃
Of course the dude is from BC haha
1 likeIf anything youtube leans way more left you cant even show a gun
0 likes34:30 hmmm a Gary glitter song. Just google what he did. I don’t think alot of people know about his past.
0 likesnow featuring thegarbodors
0 likesIm a fan of the JPEGMAFIA music in the background at 37 minutes ;)
0 likesAnyone else here Edge's "You think you know me" at 37:15?
0 likesdidn't this already happen
0 likesnot going to lie i thought that in the thumbnail Matt was vladimir lenin or was that just me?
0 likesWow. This so weird. Who the hell is this guy? Even Reddit and 4chan can't find him.
0 likesGood music and video as always
0 likesDid you add more content to this video/ re upload this? The Bernie meme seems new. Yet, dated and old?
0 likesthis video make me feel bad in my tummy
0 likesHe’s just as mysterious as the guy without a moustache.
1 likeSo... it was reddit's fault?
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Goddamn that bluepill theory and the industry plant theory nearly blew me away with the amount of big brain it would be if true
1 likeHmm, where have i seen that down the spiral graghic before?
0 likesThis is like the youtube version of KONY 2012
0 likesThe agency provides
0 likesYoutube anime opening #something: Matt Arc
1 like"only detected by the most savvy users on the site" over footage of Keemstar
0 likesNice Rabbit Hole reference. Love you as usual, Emp.
43 likesAbsolute highest quality post.
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I noticed that too,
0 likesNice
Can someone please tell me the song at 35:48? Emplemon plz I’ve been looking for that song forever
0 likesHere I thought this would be about Red Herring from Pup Named Scooby Doo
0 likes18:24 JPEG Mafia!! Great video too
0 likesPyro then: ✅
0 likesPyro now:❎
lmao ofc he is a leftist
3 likesOperation EmpLemon
1 likeso is this what caused coppa?
0 likesWhat the hell song is playing during the Keeps ad? I can't fucking figure it out.
0 likesnice 8bit rock and roll version
1 likelmao he was a breadtube agent
0 likesHOLY FUCK THE GARBODORS MUSIC
1 like40:58 funny i can say the opposite
1 likeevery time emp uploads its like a little holiday for me
19 likes9:25
1 likeAnd now H3 is predatory content lol
so this is why COPPA exists...
0 likes31:34 lol what exactly is that man doing
1 likeand tiktok is dangerous in more than 1 way
0 likesThe true investigative journalism over YouTube that we all deserve.
5 likesidk they patrol donut operator pretty hard
0 likeshappy someone used peggy for music in a vid
0 likesDude just why is it a werid Matt to ruin the name Matt for every other Matt
0 likesEmplemon x The Garbodors when 😳
0 likesMatt Watson? THE Matt Watson??? From Super Mega!?
0 likesI think this was a CIA psyop.
1 like7:51 gd creator points
0 likesAgainst right wing
0 likeswants help from big companies
WHAT THE FUCK
Lemon forgot about someordinarygamers
0 likesTHE RED SPY IS IN THE BASE
0 likesSick thumbnail bro.
0 likesDid you nick down the rabbit hole's intro or did you get permsion/ is a parody
0 likesYou don’t really hear about this much anymore which is interesting because of the massive effect it had on YouTube. Emp Lemon really chooses good topics to make videos on.
6 likesWe now must say goodbye
0 likesIt's the red menace
0 likes8:27 my boy dankula cameo
0 likesMatt Watson?! FROM SUPERMEGA?!
0 likesZap he was jealous of those who succeeded where he could not. Lol humans are pathetic.
0 likesWhat's the song two minutes in? Can't find it in the music list
0 likesMatt looks like Seth Rogan.
0 likesWhy do redheads get so angry
0 likes23:31 "I don't like Fox News"
316 likesdamn, that was subtle
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Could maybe add to the “left wing” activist or corporate puppet idea. Although I don’t think anyone likes fox so idk
52 likes@Jolongh Thong i have a liberal dad, and to him, fox news is achilles heel of the right, despite the fact that no legitimate non-neocon right winger actually watches fox news as a main source of info. I think the same applies to watson, just a hunch
14 likesCryrosphere it is the network that some schools and teachers regard as unreliable as Wikipedia
3 likesErnesto Acosta any mainstream network is unreliable
29 likes@Jolongh Thong Certainly adds to either/both of those. If you have a message you genuinely care about, you don't care how it gets to as many people as possible, you just care that it does. Never was about the supposed message, his reactions are quite telling.
1 like@Cryrosphere The only time I ever watch them is for Tucker Carlson.
11 likes@captain memelord same
5 likesI s
0 likesD o n t
0 likesC n n
0 likes49:57, what's this song? It sounds so familiar
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It's an instrumental of "Want you gone" from the Portal 2 soundtrack
0 likesEmp puts the names of every song he uses in a pastebin link in the descriptions of his videos if you're ever wondering in the future
@bob jones Ah, thanks. Usually I scan the description for specific song listings and I totally glazed over that
0 likesone thing he was right about: there is a wormhole.
2 likesthe way modern youtube AI is structured, once you pick up on a trend of videos, it'll never let you out.
case in point, this very video.... I was watching an opinion video on TF2, and I got recommended this one, because of the fact that it features a short clip from the game.... YES, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT! As you can see, this has nothing to do with TF2 in terms of content.
and on top of that, the first video in my recommended feed, as I watch this video, is a video mentioning Leafy, a known TF2 youtuber, .... because of the fact that Leafy VOICES this very video.
so, you see how I can end up in a loop, watching either Leafy's videos, or TF2 videos in general, or opinion videos in general, or just videos published by EmpLemon, depending on which alternative I click on.
an AI doesn't know who's watching, or who's commenting, or whose device is being used.... only what information that person feeds said AI, through clicks, on potential recommendations presented to them, out of the quintigajillion videos that exist out there, based on the very feeding of information that person provides that AI.
that's called feedback.
I mean, literal feedback: feeding the result back into the system.
THAT is the loop.
sounds like. . .
0 likesmAtT's WhAt It IsN't
One man created the adpocalypse
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@Gupster 23 this is a toe not amongus
0 likesYou work on the frontlines of the YouTube battlefield. Respect.
3 likes37:13 I don't necessarily agree with the idea that YouTube's algorithm unintentionally radicalizes people. On top of that, YouTube actually tends to suppress right-wing content and independent journalists more often than big mainstream news outlets (with the exception of Fox News, the only real big conservative outlet in mainstream media). Regardless of whether you agree with content from channels like Prager (which I personally tend to be either or on depending on the video, the whole of their content isn't THAT egregious even if there are some pretty big stinkers), censorship isn't the answer. Constructive criticism, thorough video analysis and spreading awareness is.
18 likescan't have a healthy conversation or argument with your opponent when you've already shut down your opponent.
Confirmation Bias is a more realistic cause of radicalization, not algorithmic shit. You really want to keep people from becoming radicalized? Tell them to go do some hard research on a topic and to pay attention to the arguments of people they both agree and disagree with. If they won't do it themselves or don't have the time, have them find reporters/journalists who will do it for them. Tim Pool is an excellent example of an honest and transparent journalist on this site: he's passionate about what he covers, he's pretty transparent about his own biases, and he tries to report in a pretty nonpartisan fashion, which is how a journalist should always report the news. It shouldn't be the job of the media to tell people what to think, its the job of the reader/viewer to come to their own conclusions based on all the evidence from every side of the discussion.
Conversely, people who are aware of their own political biases are going to be more conscious when they listen to others and will often try to look at many different points of views and discern the pros and cons of those peoples' views (along with their underlying motives) based on their own life experiences, their own research and through critical thinking. Like, i consider myself a classical liberal (so moderate-right in today's American climate) and I'm a pretty big advocate of objectivity in discourse and tend to go against post-modernistic ideals with the exception of media like visual art & music. To me (and i'm sure to many others), post-modernism and subjectivity doesn't have a place in critiquing the quality of a piece of literature, a film, or a game (outside of shit like symbolism and intentional moments where the viewer is meant to infer or read between the lines), nor does it have a place within political discussions. Despite my own personal experiences, ideology and biases, I tend to watch both moderate, farther right and farther left content now and again. It gives me food for thought and combing that sort of information with my own past experiences, beliefs, research, and personal agenda helps further my understanding of who i am, what i stand for/against, and why.
After all, the main purpose for learning about dissenting views is to strengthen your own. And hey, if you find out that there is a legitimate flaw with your world view, then that's also a good thing.
So at the end of the day, there's nothing really wrong with the way YouTube feeds people content as long as the viewers themselves are conscious of their own beliefs and biases. I can't make people do their own research, they have to do it themselves. Add lack of research on top of Marxist shit like Critical Theory, and that's how you get these NPC Puritans and SJWs. Its no different than bible thumpers and skinheads.
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points at you
4 likesTHIS GUY gets it
Thanks for this.
2 likesThis is a fantastic comment
1 likeIts also worth noting that a lot of liberal influencers, reporters and pundints have a skewed perception of what "far right people" are, given how much farther left the party has become. And as a result, viewers and/or readers of these content creators are being fed a lot of their biases as perceived facts, which is why a lot of liberals have this misconpection that Trump supporters are all violent, evil people and shit like that. In about the span of 10-15 years, the Democratic Party has went from a rather reformist platform to a progressivist (and now revolutionary) one, which is why a lot of more moderate, reformist democrats in America have jumped ship to the Republican Party.
1 like(This isnt to discredit any accurate information they do produce btw, but their bias and ulterior motives are incredibly clear.)
Democratic reporters also have a habit of recirculating and sharing their stories and articles among themselves, which has resulted in a sort of circle jerk phenomena within American Journalism. Youtube journalist Tim Pool tends to reiterate that a lot since he used to work for VICE.
13:00 when i wake up , continue at this point
0 likesSuch a hypocrite 🙎♀️
1 likeHe looks like WarOwl
2 likesI get the feeling this guy doth protest too much, yknow what I mean?
0 likesI use to watch his nofap videos lol
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So, what was it like? To suddenly see a YouTuber you knew, who had stopped uploading, and then create such a controversy last year?
0 likesOooh so that's why their's Youtube Kids and No comment sections hmmm... Neat
1 likeMatt Watson is a little rascal
1 likeHe got me intrigued in the first minutes of his video, and I was starting to agree about the wormhole of the algorithm, but when he was talking too much about brands I was like "Hold up bud this is no a brand thing this is an algorithm shit hold your horses"
5 likesThe number one most annoying thing is how he misuses his fucKING MICROPHONE YOU DON'T SPEAK INTO THE TOP PLEASE ITS A BLUE YETI IT COULD SOUND SO GOOD PLEASSEEE
1 like"Savvy Creators" shows keem
0 likesi have no idea who you are or what this video is about but i like the TF2 music
0 likesIs that Matt Watson from super mega??
0 likesHonestly, I'm going with the disgruntled failed YouTuber theory. He gives off that condescending attitude that would suggest he's doing this for revenge because nobody gave enough of a shit about his lousy videos.
6 likesYo I use Reddit bully me
0 likesNo, I don't give a schnap about participating in these shenanigans, not all users of all websites are the same and not all members of any community are the same either.
Anyway uh I just chill there but bully me anyway ig
this guy should own youtube
2 likesDo #elsagate next time
0 likesredditor gone too far lol
1 likeSupermega really went downhill
0 likesLocal redditor trolls youtube awesome style
0 likesNice tf2 reference
0 likesMatt Watson?! From SuperMega!?!
0 likesFor me its sad because in the summer of 2017, I first stumbled upon his Nofap blogs. He was this 28 y/o dude who was behind in a lot of areas, so you kinda rooted for him to improve. I also watched Matt D'avella at the time (I think thats how I found Mattswhatitis in the first place), and I used to compare them, in terms of genre, content and style.
6 likesI never would have imagined that a year and a half later, he would have made such a mess. Its impressive in its own right, pulling off this massive troll. But dang. I sort of liked the guy. Sad.
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It's sad, you wish for YouTubers to be good but you can't control everyone.
0 likesHonestly. Only YouTubers care if they make money off YouTube. Why on Earth would I care?
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Do you want to watch your favourite youtubers? Because if you do, they need to make money I order to continue making videos.
4 likes@ANGRY KOBOLD
0 likesNope, and Nope.
PC principle vibes
0 likesi see the reference
1 likeProb a combination of the 3 theories given
0 likesTrigger the virus a month later 😷🔫
0 likesnice intro
0 likesHere's that live stream he showed. Dude wildin https://youtu.be/rQQLLAQrbpg
0 likesDescending the bunny tunnel
0 likesI remember when I was a kid watching the first ever primitive 3D modeling/animation cartoons teaching us computer terms like glitch. Weird, guess natural selection with the 80/20 rule applies to boomers as well. But of course that wakes me up to the sad reality of the competitive landscape for myself now. Can never win mate.
4 likesEdit: I only say that to the overwhelming amount of comments of older folks calling these changes "glitches".
Pretty cheeky closing the vid with Alabama Song lol
0 likesi think you mean, operation red HAIRing
0 likesMatt Watson?? From SuperMega? Ryan and Matt? From SUPERMEGA?
0 likesShow me on the Matt doll where the wormhole hurt you?
0 likesAnybody know daddyOfive or somethin like that? That dad that abuses his children on this site? Thank fuck he got banned.
0 likesRed Hairring!
0 likesThe doors 👌
0 likeswhen the next YouTube Geographic video?
0 likesthis dude is blaiming youtube becouse him got himself on the wormhole
11 likesWhy was he so mad lol??
0 likesI saw a STAR_ thumbnail, I like
0 likeswhats the song at 49:56 its sounds familar
0 likes>Reddit
548 likesEVERY SINGLE TIME.
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What is more scary, reddit or 4chan lol
8 likesJupiter Fox! They tend to overlap these days so it’s hard to say
40 likes@KFC Jesus_ZRDR_DelRio t. never actually been to 4chan
31 likes@KFC Jesus_ZRDR_DelRio nobody on /b/ is smart, saying this as someone stuck on /b/
76 likesNot every time. Sometimes it's 4chan. Occasionally it's even tumblr...or at least, it used to be before the site uh, destroyed itself that one time.
20 likes@OPERATION DOOMSDAY You might not be smart, but you're aware. And far more honest then the Mandela effect would usually dictate. Thank you for your humility.
4 likes@Jupiter
57 likesReddit is basically that Rick and morty copy pasta personified
4chan are shikumaru from Naruto
Smart but too lazy and bored to do anything worthwhile with their lives
@ImmaLittlePip an analogy I came up with is that Reddit is a rocket launcher while 4chan is a sniper rifle.
13 likes@Nuckley i don't know how to explain it but i can't help browse and spam update hoping for a good thread and not the constant shit. i also just like the conversations sometimes, you gotta be there to understand i guess.
1 likePlebbit is cancer
15 likesI think Reddit's just fine. There are some good communities there.
6 likes@KFC Jesus_ZRDR_DelRio The best description I've heard so far. Well done.
1 like@Jupiter While you might have the occasional nutjob on 4chan do something stupid that gets in the news I feel like Reddit's probably the most dangerous site just because of how large it is and how easy it seems for almost the entire site to just basically converge into one massive gestalt entity that proceeds to entirely ruin something, be it memes, people, or entire sites like Youtube in this video.
18 likes@NorthernPuffer Yeah I can't believe at the numbers of people with delusions of grandur for 4chan, it's insane.
6 likes@H;C basically reddit just tries to go immediately for the big blow while 4chan actually plans out what they'll do and probably does a better job of it?
4 likes@JakeSpacePirate E I mean, you still gotta admit some of the stuff they dod was pretty damn hilarious, like how they fucked with Shia LaBeouf.
4 likes4chan is level 9000 autists who occasionaly will produce something amazing, and reddit is "to be fair you need to have a very high IQ" fedora tipping guys hunting for karma, I have been on both.
2 likesTHEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
0 likesZRDR_DelRio >Smart People
0 likesUnbased
@Nuckley based and /b/pilled
2 likesZRDR_DelRio degeneracy can wear masks my lad
1 likeUnfortunately true
0 likescomradecommissar1945 been there once, my eyes still hurt.
0 likes@Spinner132 yeyeyeye, sorry for taking 3 months to reply I had notifications off.
0 likes@Jupiter reddit.
0 likesWhat’s the song at 47:15?
0 likes51:25 Hokusai. Good Choice
0 likesHey i have ran into a glitch in the algorithm by watching a video and i got recommended peppa pig despite me never watching it
0 likesThe thumbnail looks like the virtual boy.
0 likesHe did an update on the controversy a few weeks after this video was published...
3 likes"This is a long post, after a year or so, I’ve thought a lot about what happened with my video and some of criticism levied against me. I think wanting to talk about and eradicate that whole wormhole was a good thing, but my strategy of going to advertisers was probably not. Given that it did fuck over a lot of innocent content creators in the process, it was a stupid thing to do. When those people pointed that out to me, I apathetically told them to “go get a job, go apply at Uber / KFC,” and I have to apologize for that. I was selfish because it wasn’t going to affect me monetarily, so I didn’t care that it would affect them monetarily. I accused them of being selfish when in fact I was the one being selfish, and I should’ve listened to them. I’m sorry.
I would have done things differently had I of known that video would go viral, but hindsight is 20/20. When I made that video, I thought it would tops get ~800 views. I had a 15,000 sub channel that was mostly abandoned, I hadn’t posted videos for months and now I was posting something that had nothing to do with anything I’d posted before. When people pointed out that I seemed disingenuous in my video, that I was acting, in a way I was. I felt I had to amplify my anger to convey the feeling I had when I initially discovered how deep that rabbit hole went. I was mad, make no mistake, but I thought in order to get people to watch a boring 15 minute video I needed to convey something that compelled them to stay. I thought if I was lucky I’d get a 10% response on my CTA (call to action), meaning if I told people to go to advertisers, around 80 or so people would. In my mind, those 80 people hitting up Grammerly, GNC, GMC, McDonalds, could probably be enough to get those companies to notice and quietly go to Youtube behind the scenes and get them to do something. That’s how I visualized it playing out in my mind.
It didn’t go that way though, the video went viral, and when I saw that people seemed to feel the same way I did, I got super excited and did follow-up streams to keep the momentum going.
It was in those streams that it became apparent that I hadn’t really thought about what it was I wanted to do or exactly why the strategy I chose was right. A lot of You tubers pointed this out, and as hard as it is to admit, they are right. In particular TheRightOpinion did a good video: What Did Matt Watson Really Tell Us? The Truth Behind The Rabbit Hole | TRO and the guy makes good points.
I was angry, I wanted YouTube to have to admit they fucked up, and I wanted it now. Being hotheaded and impatient are two big issues that I need to work on. I should’ve sat on the information I had and taken some time to think about how to get the situation handled as reasonably as possible.
I feel particularly terrible for channels like Special Books by Special Kids, who had their comments completely disabled in the aftermath of the incident. To them: I’m sorry that my hotheaded-ness affected you so personally, I did what I thought was the right thing, but I didn’t think about how it would affect people like you in the process.
As it all unfolded, I ended up talking to people who helped me clarify what it was I wanted to do, which was to give people a close up view of what goes down on the internet, and to keep their kids off of it. One of the guys in the advertising industry I ended up speaking to told me it’s called ‘media literacy’. Families need to understand the dangers of letting their kids have accounts and post things online, because they can end up being abused. If the kids weren’t online in the first place, this shit wouldn’t be happening.
I do have to say, I think Youtube’s action was pretty impressive, they disabled comments on all those videos, preventing peds from trading contact info and posting links. They also messed with the recommendation sidebar on flagged vids so that whole wormhole got busted up in a pretty good way.
Now, on the rag drama channels and their accusations:
I used to make half-assed comedy sketches where I made fun of various manosphere ideologies like MGTOW, Pickup, and Incel. And if you don’t know what those things are, good.
One clip that got a lot of attention was me driving past a girl walking down the street and asking “Do you want to be in an adult video?”
It’s from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8oP3... @ 2:13
People took this clip and claimed I was a hypocrite because said girl looks young and here I was spearheading a campaign against child abuse on YouTube.
At the end of day, and this is what many critics pointed out to me, doing run-and-gun prank-esque videos bothering people on the street is an asshole thing to do. And it’s an asshole thing to do because I was harassing people, and when you look at some of the reactions I got, especially in that particular clip, these people are uncomfortable, scared, annoyed etc… At the very least, I should have asked for their permission to use that footage online, and I didn’t. I can guarantee you 90% of them would have said no, and because where I live I don’t HAVE TO ask, I just didn’t care. At the end of the day there is a difference between what you HAVE to do and what you SHOULD do, and I should’ve done the right thing. If could reach out to the people I featured in my videos, I would. I’m sorry for harassing you. If someone did that to me, if two idiots were walking down the street doing some shit and filming my reaction to it, I would tell them to fuck off.
I’d delete those videos if I could but I need to keep them online as receipts because of the slander.
So, with that clip in question, it was a stupid thing to film, because I don’t know who that girl was. I mean, neither does anyone online, but all I can do is take responsibility for my part. That’s it, I should be smarter, learn my lesson, and pay the price for it.
And by pay the price I mean watching the narrative go from “Yo, that guy has a clip of him asking some girl who in our eyes is a kid “Do you want to be in an adult video?”” to “Yo, this guy was driving around town molesting kids in his car.” https://pasteboard.co/J4DDWNF.png
Between that and these channels omitting the fact the clips they were taking were from a comedy channel, it sucks. That is the internet though, I pissed a lot of people off and that kind of shit happens.
That’s it. I could have made a video to cover this, but I don’t make videos anymore. Take care."
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Could you post a link to that statement?
0 likesI want to see him say it for myself.
What a lot of bs. He's just doing damage control so people forget about him ASAP
0 likes1st time I've heard of this. I guess it's coz I have a life beyond my phone and computer.
0 likesProbably not the first to say this but I thought I was watching a gamer from Mars video
1 likeBest thumbnail
0 likesReddit hates instagram and tiktok, but mainly for memey reasons.
0 likesNow every family guy video and king of the hill video is for kids.
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King of the hill isnt that bad
1 like@Paleolithic312 didn't say it was, just youtube seems to thing that all koth videos are for kids and turns off comments.
2 likesThe blue leopard fittingly change because glove findingsinitially pat near a amusing ramie. heartbreaking, spotless panther
1 likeMatt Watson? From Supermega!?
0 likes3:23 Indeed, Matt is only a factor, the main reason his plan worked like it did was because of the paranoia already present in our age of Discord.
21 likesWas this piece of sh..
0 likesWho started the COPPA thing??? >;O
That Pyro part aged well
0 likesThe hatred of pedophiles
1 likeWhat the hell is the point of YouTube Kids?
0 likesMatt Watson??? From SuperMega?!?!?!
1 likeMatt Watson from SUPERMEGA!!?!
0 likesReddit incarnate bro..
1 likeGoogle the definition of facilitate
0 likeswhat's the song at 47:18 ?
0 likesnetflix has entered the chat
0 likesFun thing now is, there is literal porn advertisements now
0 likesMatt is a warmonger
0 likesWhat a pissed off ginger 🤣
0 likesYou know, I thought predators were the worst of it. But yeah, Matt seems worse. I don’t know why attempting to destroy a company which seems to benefit him more than solving the problem is just... I don’t know
1 likesomething something who has the most to hide speaks the loudest something something
0 likesIs that matt watson from supermega?
0 likesI bet Matt's currently supporting himself by working as an uber driver these days
16 likesi wonderd how do you make a bomb 20 minets leter i leard how mortars worked and then showed ather things that go boom but after i presed the home bouton it all goude back to normal mostly memes
0 likesIt’s disguastang
2 likesMe expects another poop/shitpost channel gets decent video and decent channel surprised pikachu face
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if this is decent to you I need to now what masterpieces you´re watching lol
0 likesAh how nice to be small youtuber now
0 likesWith all these TF2 references, I'm still waiting for my Never Ever on TF2
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~~(i think he's making a never ever on jerma and star_)~~
4 likes@V3rb I really want to see that. A lot of history there
1 likeMunat I’m hoping to see that. I recently got into Jerma and watched a lot of his newer videos. Soon I realized he had a huge thing with tf2 some years ago, and it makes me sad that I missed out on all of that. A never ever would be great to learn more about Jermas influence on tf2
1 like@hmmmstve the baffled Yeah I had the exact same kind of experience with Jerma. Found him way after his TF2 days, and was just confused by all the random "drama" between the two. It's a topic I don't think I've ever seen a video on, and it's something only veterans of Jerma even know about, so it'd be neat to see a video by Emp on it.
0 likesdude's narrative is like qanon's
0 likesClub Penguin = CP
0 likesOof.
Ngl it sounds like emplemon is salty
0 likesprobably not the first to say this and this is painfully late but....
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL VS WORMHOLE
Man looks like a less attractive less charismatic Abraham from the walking dead
1 likemy hometown flashed by
0 likeswasnt this the guy whos GF caught him watching CP? Not sure, but he kinda looks like him
0 likes"and Pyrocinial"
4 likesoh, the irony
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LOL!
1 like@Trolledfrog 678 yes w r o n g
3 likesOh man, the Soldier clip right at the start hit me in the heart a little bit. And then the rest of the video just fed the sadness and frustration.
8 likesThe content is quality, but the content of the content makes me discontent.
just add human moderators
0 likesWow at one of your supporter's names! WTF
0 likes👍👍
0 likesMatt Watson? From Supermega?
1 likeTakes one to hunt one ey pyro AH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
0 likes31:50 ho shit he canceled caiu
0 likesBruh, he just stole his name from SuperMega
1 likeThis dudes eyes spook me out dude
0 likesWe've reached the decay of human society, past the point or no return. Consume, manipulate, obey, etc etc. Great video Emp. I almost feel sorry for YouTube. ALMOST.
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Lol says the guy that probably hates communists.
1 like@LJK401 lol
0 likes2:35 "Femdom HYPNO"
0 likesYep, definitely a redditor
This guy shitting on Uber. Lol I make bank doing that shit
1 likeThat’s why videos that have the kid thing can’t be commented on
0 likesOh show me
0 likesThe way
To the next
Whisky bar
Blessed with an hour of quarantine content. Thanks Emp
16 likesmatt watson looks like a deepfake all the timw
1 likeWhos here on a conspiracy theory wormhole
0 likesMATT WATSON FROM SUPERMEGA?!?!
0 likesAnyone else here strange days form The Doors in the backround?
0 likesMatt Watson from SuperMega >>>>>>>>
0 likes18:49 average reddit mod
0 likesAlabama whiskey song background music 👍
0 likesThis makes me mad
0 likesNOTE: Kik isn't defunct. It was gonna be and some other company bought it and slapped ads in it.
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Question, is Kik used for anything besides sexting?
8 likesTheJediSonic No.
23 likesTheJediSonic Aaaah yes and no. There’s groups that are very strict about their policy of keeping everything SFW, and then the other half of the spectrum that’s to say the least illegal and disgusting
10 likes@TheJediSonic i literally am in one witchcraft/wiccan group which is safe for work thankfully
1 likeMatt Watson from Supermega?
1 likewhy is he saying COPPA like "Cope-uh" like what
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Cope lmao
0 likesnew update, just say him in a commerical with mr t
0 likesI really wish these allegations was put on tik tok instead of YouTube
1 likeFinally something to watch in quarantine, thanks emp :)
10 likesOh
0 likeslike national geographic
What a fucking hall monitor
0 likesWhat's the name of that cool jazz song?
0 likesreddit moment
0 likes37:00 i was tripping when i heard peggy bruh
0 likesMatthew Watson? From super mega?
0 likesMODS ARE ASLEEP
0 likesPOST YOUTUBEWAKEUP
I knew it! The Joker movie was based on the journey of Matt Watson!
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How about another joke YouTube ?
1 likeI think I know what Matt's plan was: to summon COPPA's wrath
9 likesThat's why pornhub is the safest place on the net. No predetors there.
0 likes35:45 is that mfing SUMMER NIGHTS by ESPIRIT?
1 likeMatt Watson???? From SuperMega???!!!!
0 likesWhen you combine Cuties with wormhole theory
0 likes49:07
17 likesI think they chose Matt because he wasn't getting what he wanted. Growth on YouTube. He was getting mad at the website, the people and the popular YouTubers. Matt wanted to watch the site burn.
I fw the doors background music
0 likesMatt Watson from Supermega?
0 likesWhy are the Simpsons red?
0 likeshmm, emp you should check 54:55
0 likes9:25 this didn't age well
0 likesMatt Watson? From SuperMega?
0 likesGood Tube
0 likesTHIS SOUNDS LIKE A FALSE FLAG
0 likesMaybe matt is thequartering
0 likesMatt Watson from super mega!?
0 likesMatt Watson? from SuperMega?
1 likeThe pewdiepie pipeline lmfao
0 likesI'm so happy. EmpLemon uploaded. Everything is good again
17 likesAnother amazing video! I love how passionate you are and how immaculate the research and execution is on every single one of your videos. My only complaint is that this one contained less shitposting than usual. Keep up the good work!
2 likesLike always your videos are amazing. great research, theses's, and editing. They always make me feel more intrigued at the end and satisfied at the same time. Bravo. Also maybe edit out some of your patreons names like at 54:56 where one of the names in slightly questionable
1 likeAs someone who has always been fascinated by the business of youtube this video clears up many wonders i’ve had being a “viewer” during the adpocalypses and how I can better manage my content and image. 10/10 report
1 likeI commend Keeps for allowing such an amazing advertisement for their product.
1 likeBetween this and the H3H3 takedown video from JustOrdinaryGamers, I have less faith in the public and myself to appraise the situation and evaluate the legitimacy behind every "informative" and "insightful" video. It is foolish to believe anything you come across without first going through the evidence yourself.
1 likeit's funny how one man was able to convince random strangers through a poor argument to cause this much chaos
1 likeHe's just an irrational person that got lucky and bailed when he couldn't keep up the lie that he started
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I kinda figured he was a nutjob when I saw he was a frequent visitor of r/ChapoTrapHouse.
5 likesI love your use of the punch scene from Spongebob in the beginning representing the red harring event, and cleaning up afterwards.
2 likesI am not defending Matt but his point that some of the child exploitation channels only cared about money was spot on.
0 likesSome of those channels did not seem to care about the audience they were attracting and seem to be in on the wormhole.
"I want nothing to do with this platform". He says on the platform.
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"I used the platform to destroy the platform"
1 likeHonestly to me its apparent that atleast in a more abstract sense Google (and Youtube) are not actually in any sort of competition with any other companies of this scale. I wouldn't be surprised if Google itself wanted this, for whatever reason.
0 likesWorst part is, he wasn’t even the first one to talk about it. Other youtubers already had (I think pyro iirc). He just took information on an issue that was already known, and used it as an excuse to bootlick corporations.
1 likeFor the News Media part, it is relevant to assume they already side with Matt. YouTube being the TV cable killer it is, the media would take every chance to get their ads back
0 likesReal Question: Judging by his old videos, was he looking for these videos, and then made the video for attention? Conspiracy Time
8 likesone thing that people seemed to miss at the time is that hurting pedos is not worth destroying the livelyhood of our favourite creators. the pedos were pretty low impact, and didnt practically do anything outside of consuming inocous content but in a manner we didnt like. this seems like the definition of the nose to spite the face
0 likes“How does this exist?”
13 likesI agree, whose idea was it to put an Analog option on the Mac’s digital clock?
Who would have guessed over 4000 hours of content a day some slips through
0 likesI'm excited to watch this because I was straight up not paying any attention when this shit was actually happening
0 likesAnother fantastic video yet again.
0 likesThe use of The Doors music is A1 👌🏻👌🏻
1 likeProbably my favorite part of the video.
I remember when I first came across the video and I knew immediate it smelled of fear mongering when I saw the word "facilitating".
0 likesWhy would those huge ads companies plan this for 2 years with a secret agent if they could just push the video of the next unstable person posting its crazy theory about YouTube? Which is you @EmpLemon I figured you out. You're the Knight that painted his donkey in white and managed to get millions of views. Very well thought I respect that.
0 likes40:00 minutes in, and that song comes on. What a fantastic soundtrack to a pretty great (comparitive to the rest of its industry) horror movie.
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Check out the rest of boards of canada's music, very cool stuff
0 likesit must be fucking exhausting working as a decision maker at YouTube.
2 likesI loved the Pink Floyd artwork included, spot on.
1 likeA lot of these theories are a huge stretch. I think he wanted to hurt content creators, and I doubt he would want to specifically hurt right-wing creators given that at this point breadtube was beginning to become popular, so I don't think that he thought he was some proletariat hero. Not caring about things like child labor is also a lot more popular among people that lean right, so if he was particularly left wing I think he would have pointed out the irony. He discovered something on Youtube, decided he wanted to do the thing Pyrocynical did but way out of proportion out of some sense of spite, and did just that. If he was a plant, why would they pick someone with such a... Weird history? They could easily find someone who has a more normal old Youtube channel. Also I haven't seen those old videos, so I can't get a good sense of where he actually leaned politically at the point of the adpocalypse.
0 likesYou be doing some noice quality story telling buddy.
0 likes27:54 I can also give a testimony about Matt's No Fap channel. His channel was the first I had seen talking about NoFap and it's how I even discovered that movement was a thing in the first place. He posted video's daily talking about his experience. He also understood that deciding to quit jerking off isn't really going to create some girlfriend for you after a year of abstaining from sexual pleasure, so he made made video's where he started socializing. He would do challenge video's like asking for a high five from 5 different girls as a way to get a positive social interaction. I think I remember that he didn't create those challenges himself, but he instead got them from somewhere else, from someone else. It was another forum, or self-help guru that came up with those ideas and Matt was following them and documenting his experiences.
0 likesThat's about all I remember, I only watched a couple videos of him. Going through my browser history I've found out that it's almost 3 years ago I came across his channel.
This is just a paranoid conspiracy. I really doubt this would even be possible, even if the incentive is there
0 likesYo EmpLemon. You should seriously consider making a video on this whole "Cool video. Want to be friends?" debacle that has recently ensued.
0 likesI believe I heard that this guy was a part of the mainstream media which would make perfect sense considering YouTube is more interested in mainstream media now.
0 likesH3H3, Keemstar and Pokemaine: *Starts weaponizing sponsor dropping*
166 likesMatt Watson: *Puppet looking away meme*
I'm just here at the beginning of the new wave of Matt-influenced exploits. Say what you will about H3, all I can say is...it was good while it lasted
1 likeThis is what happens when you go after sponsors.
12 likesNah, screw those conspiracy theories. Matt is an insecure and not very intelligent man who quit YouTube the first time around because he cannot deal with criticism, then somehow stumbled on some kids doing gymnastics tutorials, was disgusted, and decided to make a video about it. A combination of prior experience, the bit of influence he still had from his last attempt, and luck caused it to blow up on Reddit, then he decided to go after advertisers because he does think that's what hurts. He got angry at other YouTubers when they told him to knock it off because he feels like it's a righteous crusade. Companies tried to get some good publicity by pulling ads. YouTube's response was lackluster, because they're terrible at communication, which is why Matt wasn't excited about it. After some backlash, Matt quit, just like the first time around. No conspiracy. The world generally isn't smart nor organized enough for conspiracies. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (Hanlon's razor).
1 likeA bit of autistic detective work on my end leads me to this conclusion:
30 likesSeems to me that Matt is actually a puppet for the elites. His entire purpose was just another wave of Youtube trying to screw over all content creators. In short he was an experiment designed to continue the Sanitization of the platform. Think about his videos that Mock pickup channels and MRAs. His content goes out of it's way to showcase the scum of youtube.
My suggestion is that originally he was supposed to play the part of a Youtube Villain and was setting up as one, HOWEVER his videos didn't take, So we can assume his account was repurposed.
1: Create a controversy with an insane understanding of how to manipulate video algorithms (this tells me he had a media person working with him). It's easier to generate controversy than it is to generate an authentic following and then be a fall guy
2: Become a fall guy in his own campaign. This would explain the account that quietly mirrored his videos.
3: Cover his tracks by claiming to hate social media.
This way the people in charge of him, his bossess would be able to continue a push for sanitization on YT by making the stupid and gullible massess of Plebbit create a mob.
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Youtube has demonstrated that it will bluntly denounce and stonewall its own creators if they dont coincide with its agenda.
1 likeCowering their tracks in such a manner is uncharacteristic of them.
I suspect he was an agent of a youtube competitor.
All i gotta say is man that justice, great sneak! Dont wanna say too much you know what it is!
1 likeUnsubscribed for over a year.
0 likesStill finding your videos, still lovin' it!!!!!!111one
So what im getting from this is that youtube now has its very own tin-foil-hatted conspiracy theorists
4 likesHey everyone, look who's back: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/g4nlcz/last_year_i_made_a_video_exposing_the/
5 likesAnd he says it totally wasn't because of this video. Oh it totally was because of this video.
This isn't a criticism of EmpLemon specifically, but why is that a good portion of what a lot of YouTubers do is criticize other YouTubers?
1 likegod this was long.... but totally worth it!
0 likesFeels weird hearing a Garbordors track in a EmpLemon vid but it was an unexpected but nice surprise.
0 likesI would pay top dollar for a "Down the Spiral" T-Shirt.
0 likesThis dude is just a master troll and some of us are STILL biting the B8
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oh hey another guy also who's to say there is not overlap if i could get paid to troll it would be quite tempting
0 likes5:04 "Wasp removal videos"
12 likesDamn, so they captivated you too, huh?
The Gary glitter soundtrack is so fitting I love it.
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And the doors
0 likesCorporations after watching the video: wow that’s a great idea! Why didn’t I think of that?
0 likesThis guy has real Nerd City vibes
0 likesPut this up before he mentioned them. 🤷🏻♂️
He harassed us with going into our facebooks and attempting to threaten us until we leave. The end.
0 likesOk how did I never hear of this contreversary last year, AND somehow miss this video until you refrenced it in your most recent one?
3 likesyo but what if he was just doing it for the heck of it, to fuck with people:
0 likes-he has had past experiences with making satirical content, and if the guy he pinned was being genuine, his content seemed almost convincing. similarly, for youtubers to consider his previous content notable, they would either be looking to dethrone him, or be fooled themselves
-his actions would make somewhat more sense if he was just doing this (which would have to be mostly spontaneously), explaining why he left abruptly, and empathized the efforts of corporations without noting their flaws
this of course has some flaws:
-he seems to be genuine about wanting to remove ad revenue
-i have no idea how this would amuse anyone
-there seems to be little reason to go to this length for a joke of this scale and magnitude
AWESOME VIDEO! I subscribed😁
0 likesEmpLemon I totally agree that this dude is a person who shouldn’t never be trusted. Tbh I have took some sociology and I will say that what Matt Watson is a person who wants attention (plus he’s a egomaniac so yeah he deserve to take some happy pills) plus he wants to create a clique and tbh his clique was a terrible example of how arrogant people are. Plus he thinks YouTube deserves that they lose money (which I will say that shows that he is an 8 year old person mentally, and he is an hypocrite saying that youtubers are greedy no he’s greedy) ROAST (Drop Mic)
0 likesNEVER trust people who:
6 likesA) Use children to bolster their argument.
B) Talk about they just want to "Raise awareness."
C) Resort the insults the minute their method/perspective/solution is criticized.
Matt made a post on reddit reflecting on what he should've done differently.
0 likesSomehow I missed all of this.
2 likeswe did it patrick! we saved the city!
1 likeShare this video whith whomever you can friends and maybe we can better educate people.
0 likesGotta appreciate that portal 2 closing song
0 likesR.I.P cave Johnson
Love The Doors instrumental covers.
0 likes"Keep" A man needs hair to be a man?
6 likesDwayne walks into the room
Maybe he was a disgruntled creator who was approached by and recruited by a corporation?
1 likeFun fact kik is still up as it was purchased by a new company and is used to spread CP by people sharing Wikr links.
0 likesgreat video, got my sub and hit the bell
0 likesI hope YouTube burns to the ground someday lmao. It turned into something disgusting. You gotta dig deep to find good content now. It's kind of a chore now tbh
1 likeHow can they possibly have a "pedophile" category that they specifically coded to serve child videos to that category and not know how to stop itself from being used like that?
0 likesIf a man sets up a shotgun to go off after a 1 minute timer then stands in front of it specifically to get shot, why is it the shotgun manufacturers fault? Its his fault for creating/coding the situation.
When a coder at youtube literally sits down and types "If pedophile Then suggest children" you cannot say its good-actors at fault. If uploading videos as a young child is against the rules then why are videos not automatically taken down instead of suggested to weirdos?
By definition of sending creepy children videos to pedos, youtube specifically has a group of videos it knows are creepy children videos and a group of people it knows are pedophiles, banning videos with "cp" in the title was a publicity stunt for advertisers and we all know it.
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Conspiracy time. Youtube puts ads on videos with children knowing that pedos watch those videos. They don't do anything about the situation and pretend to do something about it any time and article gets written.
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AI generated categories that are only understood by the AI
0 likesthe algorithm cant tell what the content is but it can find patterns in it and recommend similar videos because of similar patterns
He had to hide his identity anytime he wasn’t streaming.
0 likesHow did I miss this
0 likesI feel like the matt person has a plan that is something more sinister
1 likeI've never seen before a face so punchable like Matt's...
1 likeMundane Matt (huh, other Matt) comes in a close second place.
That local news tidbit around 48 minutes is totally false and conspiratorial, yes there are larger corporate owners and yes they exert influence in sharing specific stories and providing copy for national segments, but all local reporting is not coordinated by some mastermind trying to control public opinion. Local journalists work hard to find, pitch and present stories free of any bias but there own that they may or may not filter out.
0 likesThis feels like a birthday gift for me, because it was posted on my birthday :-)
0 likes26:22
3 likesThis is just for me, I don’t want to lose my place
This guy is the pyrocynical of YTP
0 likesI miss kryp krushers. Dude would just smoke blunts in his whip. Best channel ever
0 likeshe's sparked the beginning of the end
0 likesTheory: Matt got really upset because his 11 yr old girlfriend broke up with him to make softcore child pron on YouTube
0 likesFools, Matt's intentions are far beyond your understanding, there is no one Matt, instead one of many fighting soldiers in the ongoing centricide. Cower moderates.
0 likesMatt Jarbo (Mundane Matt), Matt Watson, my douche ex-roommate Matt who skipped out on rent, my alcoholic cousin Matt?
1 likeWhat is it with Matts? Are Matts the Karens of men?
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And this is why people should be named the more superior (and humble and handsome) version "Mat"
0 likesHe probably shorted some Google stocks and cooked up this so he could make some money of googles falling stick prices.
0 likesCan’t tell if that red beach is an eva reference or not
2 likesOkay I have a theory that involves both the leftist conspiracy and industry plant theories. First some important political context. Full disclosure, I am a leftist. Specifically far left, far libertarian, I’m tucked in the bottom corner of the political compass. I’m familiar with leftist discourse and what specifically defines the different ideologies and where they lie in terms of left/right and libertarian/authoritarian. Matt, to me, seems like a liberal, which is around the center of the compass. Liberals, unlike all other leftist theories, believe capitalism is good and that any problems within it are ultimately not structural can be fixed with gradual reform. I believe 100% he orchestrated this whole thing as a dig against reactionaries and right wing content. The capitalistic rhetoric of “hurting their wallets,” and disregard for class struggle plays into it. He believes, naively, that hurting their financial income through ad boycotts will be the best way to moderate the spread of their ideas. I also think he knew about corporate upfront a happening in May, with decisions being decided toward the end of February, and specifically timed the video in hopes of it having a longer lasting impact rather than a quick rebound. Of course, like liberals do, they miss the broader picture. YouTube has too much influence for brands to NOT advertise on, people generally stop caring about boycotts quickly, and reactionaries will always find a way to spread their ideologies as long as capitalism is in place, so if he really wanted to stop the spread of hate, he’d take class struggle into account. But liberals can’t do that, because class struggle and a fondness for capitalism don’t mesh well.
1 likeThe main reason I don't believe him is because he uses Mac, no human would ever use a Mac.
0 likesIs it just me or is the song @1:40 not listed in the Pastebin-Link?
0 likes37:41 Justice - let there be light
0 likesYou're kinda epic bro 😳😳😳
Matt Watson's gain is waaaaaaay too high
1 likeYouTube, no shortage of strange events here.
1 likeMy guess, he was working for youtube.
0 likesEven the way he talks does not seem genuine. He always sounds sarcastic when talking about removing ads and protecting kids.
0 likesHe appears to be based in canada by the videos he took but who knows
0 likesDude he played 1539 N. Calvert in this vid. Emplemon is sick confirmed
1 likeThe algorithm works as intended. But it is fundamentally flawed. Content that encourages pedophiles to share links, post timestamps, etc. shouldn't be tolerated or recommended by the algorithm. I am aware that this isn't its purpose, but it definitely should be. YouTube is not /b/. Content on YouTube is highly censored and "toned down". It should have an algorithm that is able to detect content that doesn't belong on the site (I don't think child porn belongs anywhere at all but you can't force websites that are already illegal to adopt such an algorithm, it wouldn't make any sense for the people who run the site (peodphiles)).
0 likesnow that's a thumbnail
20 likes"youtube might not even be PROFITABLE" 10 minutes later "refunds aren't a steep price to pay when you make $15 billion a year" wtf.
0 likesYo if u go on his community posts he just made a follow up on the situation 3 days ago
0 likesDid anyone else notice Rock and Roll pt. 2 playing in the background? Now that's an Easter Egg.
0 likesI'm surprised 4Chan hasn't found out verything about this guy....Talk about an enigma!
0 likesHo can someone be the Chris Hansen of Youtube when Hansen himself is already on youtube?
0 likesVery clear most comments didnt make it the end cus no one talking about the theory at 45:00
1 likeI like that the intro references Down The Rabbit Hole
3 likesGuy talks about predatory stuff
1 likeMe just watching star wars memes
Yep, and the split second ginger boy threatened to contact sponsers all the big YouTubers came in to stop him. Money money money. Who cares about pedo videos, right?
0 likesHe posted a response on his community page
0 likesso this is the guy that redid the adpocalypse
0 likesMatt is back boiiiiiii
0 likesCheck his channel community tab
really? matt added youtubers talking about demonetization at the end because he was talking about how the exploitative videos are monetized. he was pointing out that youtubers are demonetized for the stupidest, smallest shit but for whatever reason these channels are allowed to make money. he literally SAID IT IN THE VIDEO. i mean, come on. that's such a shitty twist of the narrative. you know what he showed right before the demonetization clips? clips of the exploitative channels BEING MONETIZED.
0 likes4chan should have raided his streams.
0 likesdude decided to burn down the whole ship with everyone on board to kil the rats in the basement
0 likesi smell the influence of the merchants guild
0 likesHey! This is the same intro as “Down the Rabbit Hole!”
2 likes20:23 is very important to remember
3 likesYes, attack the sponsers and tank 'innocent' creators at the same time. Sounds good to me, this platform needs to die.
0 likesMatt posted about 3 days ago to his community tab.
0 likesThose dog whistles tho. World Peace, brothers.
0 likesNever got the whole YouTube kids controversy because how is airing ads on YouTube kids bad but airing ads on Nick Jr. is perfectly fine
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Nick jr has control of what ads play. From what I understand YouTube ads are much more random.
0 likesAdorable Cockroach I still find it strange
0 likesThe main thing is that a good ad in this day and age needs to be targeted to work, which means it can only work if it is displayed to someone who is a potential client. COPPA stipulates that no website should seek to collect data from children, and youtube needed to collect data to show those targeted ads.
0 likesMatt was a nofapper, I first saw him from a glink video.
0 likesDid I just heard Boards of Canada - Gyroscope at 40:00?
0 likesYo Emp, do you watch AwfulFawful for some reason?
Ironic choosing a Gary Glitter track for the background for this video.
0 likes"could I be somehow implicated" no
0 likesHow come I am only hearing about this right now?
0 likes@emplemon check this video out, looks like its right up your alley
0 likesThat video edit tho
0 likesConflicting information at 25:34 and 12:52
1 likeSo much doors music I love it
0 likesTf2 theme played in intro? Got my like
1 likeHow the hecc you make ads entertaining as the rest of the video when I double-tap my way through everybody else’s but not yours
0 likesdude its weird but EmpLemon sounds like Funke
1 likeDown the Rabbit Hole? More like down the fish hole
0 likesWon't you show me the way to the next whiskey bar?
0 likesThis guy's behavior is so similar to ninja
0 likesMatt has posted something on reddit
0 likesDamn this feels like ancient YouTube history and it was only like 2 years ago
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A year ago
5 likesHuh at around 29:00 it’s sounds like EmpLemon uses the same music that Nexpo, a fellow youtuber, uses
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Nexpo is litty
0 likes"Muh' monetization!"
509 likesHow about "Muh' job!"
Sounds like a lot more weight when put that way eh mister Watson?
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FrameRater what are you doing here
4 likesDidnt expect you being here lol
3 likesFrames go away. You're supposed to be a mythical fairy I never see.
3 likesAsk any worker if he shall give charities to children (Anytime he earns money), if he says 'Sorry but I can't' then call him a selfish greedy sociopath.
1 likeHey Frame
1 likeAny chance for a Geist review??? Some version of Dolphin works with it no prob.
0 likes‘Muh’ source of income and way of supporting myself
2 likesThis man did the equivalent of “learn to code”
0 likesDidn't expect to find you here Frame
0 likes>News outlet
0 likes>Buzzfeed
Why do you keep contradicting yourself
Fuck I love the TF2 music
0 likes"Indiscriminate: At random or without careful judgement"
14 likes"Algorithm: Carefully weighs up the data and view trends of billions of videos to provide uses with recommendations"
In other words, the opposite of indiscriminate
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Without careful judgement on the side of morality.
5 likesThe internet is so fragile.
81 likesThe internet is so volatile.
The digital world is an enigma.
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The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
11 likesthis comment doesnt even make sense tho??????????????
0 likesmaki
0 likes37:03 YOOOO I SEE YOU 😈😈😈 DAMN PEGGY. Man I love JPEGMAFIA
0 likes21:00
1 likefirst off redditors actually do hate tiktok with a passion, and tiktok is owned by china, so outrage is discouraged
for your next or one of your future youtube geography videos you should cover 2016/2017 youtube drama (keemstar, commentary channels, the first adpocolypse, diss tracks, rants/exposed videos, etc etc). that period in yt history is hella interesting.
11 likesGood video but why are the Simpsons Red?
1 likeIf he was an agent that'd be so, so smart. Also kind of dystopian.
6 likesBritish people are always saying Americans are bizarrely obsessive about Child exploitation. By the end of this video I am pro Child exploitation.
0 likes"Salty"
103 likesExcept people get salty when something dumb happens and they get overly angry at it, not when something that seriously impacts their lifestyle happens. That type of non-salty anger is usually justified.
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"Salty" just means "angry" now, despite the original intentions of what it was supposed to mean, and I don't think that we can change it back.
1 like#youtubeSPEAKup
0 likesIt’s clear he’s just a progressive liberal; not a leftist.
104 likesIt was maybe luck that companies could capitalize on this last minute. Maybe only communicating slightly afterwards. But his mission is clear; propping up capital conglomerates. Again, very liberal, but not leftist.
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Gatokal yeah there’s a massive difference between “liberals” and actual leftists. Liberals tend to be the reactionary, “reddit do your thing” type, whereas most real leftists don’t do that and care more about class consciousness and stuff like that.
34 likesMost “leftists” on reddit are liberals anyway
20 likesProgressive liberals are leftist. Even progressive conservatives are leftists. Leftist is not a term of endearment.
7 likesArkana By progressive liberals you mean Bernie right
0 likes@Abandoned channel No, Bernie Sanders supporters aren't all "progressive liberals," they're a coalition of literally anyone that is not a neoliberal conservative. Most of his base just agrees on very important issues, like healthcare and wars. This is beyond partisanship, mind you.
5 likes@Nick Name Sanders being against war and for universal healthcare is counteracted with his support for open borders, amnesty for *llgal immigrants (which both hurt the working and middle class) and anti 2nd Amendment, like the other Democrats. He is a Bourgeois hack, has become like the other progressives, and is still partisan for the corporations. Keep in mind that he used to be against open borders.
2 likes@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin)
2 likesDidn't he team up with C*inton after he lost? He was a sellout. After he loses, he will backstab his supporters and won't give refunds. I still wanted him to win! Better than Senile Uncle Biden, he be sniffin' little girls hairs and scamming his supporters.
@Tom Hill
0 likesThis. Checked and based.
Matt Watson from funny internet men “Supermega”?
0 likesWhats the dark synth track in the back?
0 likesI’m barely even past 10 minutes into the video, and Matt’s plan already seems completely destructive. It’s basically the equivalent of ridding a Wasp’s Nest with napalm bombs and destroyed the entire house in the process; completely needless destruction for something that could’ve easily been resolved with proper logic and patience.
4 likesnice reference to fredrik knudson
1 like"unless Matt Watson had a different motive in mind"
81 likesOr was very stupid
I'll still finish the video but incompetence is pretty likely lol
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Somniad I try to assume incompetence before malice as well.
10 likesIncompetence can't explain his stubbornness in wanting to drive the advertisers away from the platform, especially after many other youtubers talked to him and explained it to him over and over. There simply HAD to be some malice mixed in there.
26 likesBut how could he have hidden his traces that well, then??? If he was stupid enough to do this by mistake, something just doesn't add up
17 likesThen why did he purposefully lie about not knowing the site and its creators when he was making not too bad content for years? He literally sits there acting like some angry tech-incompetent boomer who just discovered what "all this Youtube fuzz is about" when hes been more succesfull than 90% of all people attempting to get big on this site.
1 likeTL:DW version
0 likesMatt's sad and angry because he couldn't get that youtube money
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AbsurdDive or that he's likely some tool companies used to manipulate youtube
1 likeBut he could've easily gotten the YouTube money using the tactics he used to get #YouTubeWakeUp to blow up, or at least he could've used the popularity of the campaign to his advantage. Him being a corporate shill doesn't put into account all of his past internet history. I personally think him giving up on YouTube, and trying to stop YouTube to get rid of the alt-right pipeline makes more sense, because the only inconsistencies that seem to be in that theory is the fact he knew he would screw over a ton of leftist channels too, but keep in mind that screwing over alt-right channels wasn't the goal. The goal was getting rid of the YouTube algorithm that he believed was radicalizing people.
1 likehow tf you come up with this stuff bro
1 like24:30 - What's that music from? Is that...Smash Bros?....can't quite put my finger on it......
0 likesThere will never ever be a site like YTMND ever again, please emp do this site justice
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What's YTMND
0 likes@hijacked you could just google it, but its called your the man now dog and it was a haven for memes
0 likesThis man made people think we were peaceful protesting and then went into the nuclear option, and when people asked him about their jobs he just showed them uber.
3 likesKik isnt defuct I still use it
0 likesMatt watson? FROM SUPERMEGA ? !
0 likesI really love Emplemon's newer content
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Me too. His past as a YTP maker honestly benefits his editing, helps make it feel lively.
4 likes@Duncaster Yee agreed
1 likeHe posted on Reddit 2 days ago
0 likesI pretty much missed everything mentioned in this video. I've been using adblock plugins since 2008, didn't know ads went down in early 2019.
43 likesMatt Watson from SuperMega?!
0 likesthis video literally turned into illuminatii
0 likesSelf censorship
0 likesGreat Thumbnail
1 likeI still remember that moment.
8 likesYouTube was spiraling out of control and everybody was either hella scared or insanely pissed.
It’s official that the “2016” is the mark of good thing. And it could only get worse.
2 likesApril 26th 2020.
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Thanh Phong Đặng what?
1 like@caxolog! I think he was trying to say that things have only gotten worse since 2016? And that everything from that year and the years before it are good? I'm just as confused as you are.
1 likeNot related to the topic but nice use of the smash ost
0 likesWell Emp, you convinced me to watch an hour long documentary again.
4 likesEmp Lemon: Youtube Geographic would be a perfect series to do an episode centering around the first well known Youtube commenter known as PressFartToContinue.
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Guy Noir Is...is this joke,
1 likeWhere is funny?
I can’t find funny...
second this, theres very very interesting backstory and drama around them
2 likesDr. Oofers I'm not trying to be funny at all. Back when I was a wee lad, I actually chatted with PFTC quite often when he was floating around the comments. Then all of the drama happened and he vanished. While i don't condone his actions, he was the comment section God during YouTube's golden age. A true enigma.
1 likeGuy Noir Sorry, I didn’t know whether it was a joke or not. Also, nice to know you met PFTC, you must’ve been lucky.
1 like@Dr. Oofers All good mate. I never actually met him, we just talked through comments and played some Garry's Mod a few times. And this was before Steam implemented voice chat lol. I dont consider myself lucky in the regard that I interacted with him, but I do consider myself lucky that I remember him. Only OGs remember
0 likes@That Schmo Guy Oh what happened?
0 likesI was sucked into this YouTube drama that I almost forgot about the corona virus
6 likes5:05 “wasp removal” Lol we’ve all been there at least once
67 likesMatt Watson??
0 likesFrom Supermega???
its usually all the above
0 likes8:39 one of the comments in the live chat says "if you are a youtuber who relies soley on ad revenue for income, you deserve to be broke"
0 likesBruh
Good to finally see another episode of Youtube Geographic.
23 likesMatt Watson from Super Mega???
0 likesIf this was an industrial plant, I highly doubt that they would resort to Reddit of all places to get the ball rolling. I just think that he got very very lucky and rolled double sixes, and it blew up on reddit, and pretty much everywhere. There are too many numbers for it to be artificial.
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to be fair, it might only need a bit of artificial attention at the beginning, before redditors take over organically.
4 likesplus, news articles fuel upvotes, way more than upvotes encourage articles. the most dubious part about "industry plant" is his history
Those Doors MIDIs are making me sing and get distracted lmao
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Sonny Wilson I know right? I’m glad someone else noticed.
11 likes@Sphere space Wish he'd take sugar plum fairy out. That song irks the hell out of me and makes the video unlistenable.
2 likesWhisky bar song go brrrrrr brrr brrr brrrr
7 likes@bruh It kind of fits in thematically: "Show me the way to the next little girl! Oh dont ask why..."
11 likeslmfaooo so true xDDD
0 likesmost relatable comment in a while
0 likespretty fitting tho ngl 😳
0 likesreddit moment
0 likesEvery time Emp lemon let’s loose one of these hotties, I drop everything and get to a quiet place to listen.
3 likesMatt watson from supermega?!?!?!?!?!?
0 likes10 seconds in and I love this video because of that Down the Rabbit Hole parody. Given the nature of the topic, "Down the Wormhole" would also be a good alternate title.
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The spiral is forever going downwards
0 likesIt's a spin on Frederik Knudsen's "Down the rabbithole" series. I would thoroughly recommend watching a few episodes
1 like@Ivan I know, that's exactly why I loved the first 10 seconds. Fredrik Knudsen's videos are awesome. Edited the OP in any case.
0 likesMATT WATSON FROM SUPERMEGA?!??!?!
0 likesI just wanna know why I can’t organize playlists alphabetically, or search videos in a playlist, or see what people I’m subscribed to are liking and commenting on
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Well like Emp said, their poor leadership leads to missing features and such.
11 likesor search for videos in a channel or filter the search bar to find only channels
0 likesYou can search videos in a playlist by simply using ctrl+F - but yeah, that could be a helpful built-in YouTube feature, because using the browser's search option requires scrolling down and loading the whole playlist first
2 likes@bruh investigator u can search for only channels
1 likeahmost 22 or shuffle in my music playlist and hear anything beyond the first hundred songs. It worked and then they updated playlists three years ago! >:(
0 likes@JayBe my shuffle option works
0 likesahmost 22 Do you have a playlist with over 100 videos? What I’ve found is that in these large playlists, when I shuffle it never gives me videos beyond 100. If I start from 101 and click shuffle then it only gives me videos 101-200. I guess it’s not important in the grand scheme of things but it’s annoyed me for years. Are you saying you don’t experience this in such playlists?
0 likes@JayBe yeah wait ur right I have a 1200 ish video playlist and I think shuffle doesn't show older things
0 likes@bruh investigator to search videos in a channel, open the channel's page, then look for the magnifying glass icon after "about" in the "home, videos, playlists..." bar.
0 likesOr custom sort other people's playlists, or copy playlists off of others' channels, or sort by date uploaded
0 likesSummer nights and Daydream? Do you listen to George Clanton!?
0 likesLove a new geographic episode. Thanks!
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OHMYDOG I’ve waited about a year for a YouTube Geographic.
1 like@Daniel Baran I've been rewatching all of the old ones
0 likesWasted the opportunity to put “Red Hair-ing” in the title.
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fragmented r
1 likeIt's implied. The subtlety adds to it.
42 likesToo obvious
9 likesCircunflexo true. If anything, the title not being that worked out for the best, as I was able to get 300 likes for stating the obvious.
0 likesOk ok, but that advertisement.
0 likesyooo the garbodors songs lmao
1 likeWhy are the simpsons ketchup colored?
0 likes1:58
0 likesMatt Watson from SuperMega?
I can’t seem to figure out what song is at 1:50. It’s not Miami or Dust Devil D Code, so idk if it’s not on the list or just misplaced.
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me neither :( ill tell you if i find it
0 likes@Boxxed Ay, thanks!
0 likesWhy don't you read his most recent reddit post and make an update?
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What did he say?
0 likesI remember I used to be a mod on Matt's channel when this whole thing started, the same day he talked to Keemstar. After a couple days, I realised what was really going on with him and just bailed on the whole situation.
53 likesLowkey trying to see if you can see any of my comments in this video lol. I was under a different name though
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damn dude hope peeps didn't go after ya
4 likesYou bear a heavy burden of proof.
3 likespost different name now
2 likesI was at 28:10 under the name "Paul Olsen." I was one of his original subs from before he uploaded the video.
0 likesThe theory I have heard and that I personally believe. Is that Matt was politically motivated and mad that YouTube was facilitating the “alt right pipeline” Honestly his whole child predator rabbit hole sounded alot like the idea of the alt right pipeline. It had alot of the same logical flaws to.
0 likesWASP REMOVAL VIDEOS
0 likesMatt Watson from SuperMega?!?!
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Oh no. Nonono lol.
0 likesTypical mac user though really. Uninformed. :)
0 likesWell Emp, I gotta say it once again, this is some incredibly high quality content and I'm stunned once again. Well freakin' done mate.
0 likesInsightful and well documented video. Great content man, cheers.
0 likesAnother great masterpiece emp, I love your content man. Keep it up
0 likesI'd love to see a Youtube Geographic about how Flash animations of the early 2000's influenced Youtube culture today. Like how everyone from Zero Punctuation to AlternateHistoryHub and countless others are all animating with the same style that started with Madness Combat (memba?).
0 likesAnother great video, once again, so well crafted. The jokeresk part was great. Also I would always trust Dr. Spiral.
0 likesLove the picture of google's stock, it was already pretty high for its average so Matt caused a noticeable dip as people sold.... and then bought in again the next day when it was lower, and it continued to rise.
2 likesWhen I need to stop hair loss I’m def going with Keeps.
0 likesi am not going to remember nor care about the whole rigmarole you were talking about, but those spicy investigative techniques are what I watch your videos for.
0 likesWelcome to 2020, where the only real journalism goes relatively silent, on small YouTube channels, on underrated channels with only half a million subscribers.
6 likesGosh I wanted to write an article about this but I know there's now way I can't top this video now I've finished it, you've earned a sub.
Future never Ever segment ideas:
147 likes>Never Ever be another tragedy like Picher, Oklahoma
>Never ever be another Superhero like Spiderman
>Never Ever another Youtuber like AVGN
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>Never Ever - Filthy Frank
31 likes>Never Ever: Team Fortress 2
22 likesNever Ever > South Park
7 likesPicher, Oklahoma is not that out of the ordinary. Plenty of other small American towns have been destroyed as an unintended consequence of human activities (e.g. Centralia, Pennsylvania and Times Beach, Missouri).
3 likesNever ever be another superhero like superman
1 likeNever Ever > 2016 YouTube
1 likeNever ever > PlayStation
0 likesNever Ever: Michael Jackson
2 likesNever Ever: Heath Ledger
I wouldn't really define AVGN as a "youtuber" as he comes from a time where that term didn't even exist, plus he got his start and still mainly used his site cinemassacre for most of his career, only really using youtube to host his videos. I'd say "reviewer" fits him better since that's really the term he helped come to define.
7 likes@Captain Weekend Not a bad idea actually
0 likes@Person 1 Superman would probably be ideal, he is like, THE superhero.
1 likeThat would be scott wozniak
0 likesSomeone actually recently exposed something like this that's actually happening on youtube and reported it to the FBI.
1 likeI also really like using insults like weirdo and saying things like "but maybe this means"
0 likesY'know leading, and attacking the arguer not the argument. Very solid debate tactics.
I like your videos bb, just doing some friendly criticism :3
This man makes a blue yeti sound like a 1997 headset mic.
10 likesMaybe the fact that he had a catalogue of videos prior to the controversy made him a better hire?
0 likesyoutube really wanted me to watch this video. Suggested for weeks so I could watch a man get angry that someone doesn't like youtubers, punctuated midway through with an awful skit
1 likeNot a chance he was an industry plant, but he was used by the industry at a fortuitous time, this explains why previous videos outlining these problems never hit the mainstream. Why would advertisers bite that hand that feeds, until that is the hand pulls back. We all have issues with youtube, as you've shown with all the commentary channels exposing youtube in the past, Matt obviously was very involved in watching youtube ideological content and would want to expose it as well. I see him as someone with good intentions and a bone to pick, who got caught up in his 15 minutes of fame when the news agencies saw him as a ripe opportunity. It's funny, it looks like a real world Phantom Thieves situation where the group was surprised by how popular they had gotten with their good intentions, meanwhile it was their own enemy pushing their analytics for an ulterior motive. Matt simply wasn't that bright, and took it out on youtube while advertisers were a bigger issue, who used him for profit, and he just ate out of their hand because when ads pulled out by his command, he got more popular, and he liked the spotlight that he could never before attain on youtube. Of course he disappeared when everyone turned on him, again... kinda like the Phantom Thieves but with less conviction or questioning of his own morals.
0 likesanother beautifully crafted video, lemon
0 likesHe probably works for an ad company. His knowledge aa described in the video reminds of MatPat.
0 likesThe "disgruntled failed youtuber" makes very little sense once you put all this evidence together and think on it. I see a lot of people going with this theory because it's the "simplistic" when it's the opposite considering everything he DID do.
Ask yourself: Who affects YouTube the most? Who has started all the Adpocalypses?
Spoiler: not a random, small youtuber. It's always been the MSM and those they associate with.
Perhaps he wanted to use this as a further attempt to make it big, but then why disappear? Why RE-appear on Reddit posts that tended to deal with YouTube and advertisements? Why such lackluster leftism that suggests he didn't really care but more like he was playing the part? How convenient he knew the perfect time to start this. (How would one know what time to post? Are all these subreddit mods day birds?) How convenient the mods never took his post down despite clear evidence of rule breaking.
Reddit is leftism hive mind. Unlike companies and the big boys of the MSM (not the journalists) who fake it to fit in... Him being a plant makes the most sense. Everything worked out too well. He reminds me of that gaywonk dude from Vox (Carlos Maza?). Someone who wanted the cake and ice cream but couldn't handled dealing with those who didn't believe him once his 5 mins was done. He no longer had to play along for his money so he ended it. I have no doubt whoever hired him shuffled him around so no one would see his face for a long time.
The best way I could think to find him would be to hack into his Reddit account and gain his IP attached to his account. Then trace it to wherever it goes.
I love you so much Emp. I popped off when I heard the esprit songs in the background, my man knows his George Clanton and the fine ass vapor wave. Great upload as always.
1 likeEverything has an agenda behind it. The exceptions to this rule are few and far between. Echo chambers can exist everywhere (comments, twitter feeds, "wormholes," subreddits (has anyone checked r/politics recently?), even entire sites, the "karma" system facilitates this to an incredible extent), and a perfect nonbiased presentation of the facts rarely exists, if at all. To use a partisan issue, it's like watching only Fox, or reading only NYT (or their equivalents). Nobody thinks after reading something that they agree with. Critical thought is dead, if it were even alive to begin with. This is what people need to wake up to.
0 likesdude, I have to say that the sound you used to "bleep out" or censor words was really triggering me. I almost didn't fnish the video.
0 likesA little bit of context, im watching on my desktop and listening through regular computer speakers, color me insane but the bleep sound sounded like static distortion and for a moment I kept thinking my speaker connections werent plugged in correctly. I got up out of bed multiople times just to check.
Lol all jokes aside I enjoyed this story a lot, you did a good job on the video and fuck the bad word sound.
well, if youtube doesn't want to moderate content, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T MODERATE CONTENT.
2 likesFrom a qq to memer to agent.
0 likesdamn this PLOT twist, movie material 101.
I think the advertiser insider explanation is most likely. He was most likely contacted as his channel was big enough to be pushed to people, and to confuse potential debunkers.
0 likesWhat bothers me the most about this guy is that he went LOOKING. At one point he says something like 'you can't go on (well known adult site) and find this stuff'. Did he go looking? What? He's got issues and is probably projecting.
0 likesthis guy has such good music taste
0 likesAt 2:26 you can see that he is in british columbia which, if we can trust this, means that we can find the right Matt Watson
1 like33:40 he was in toronto so he is somewhere in canada
Love the way you censor the fuckwords, still benefits your quest to remain monetized yet still display the crude implications ov the word meanings without auditory linguistics. Godd wormholW
0 likesI can't believe I spent an hour without noticing, you're good man
0 likes30:12 "To remain a poltergeist in the Digital World" Wait, wait one second, are you telling me that Matt Watson is secretly a Digimon? THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH!
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Funnily enough he actually mentioned Digimon in one of his streams, calling YouTubers weirdos that live in digital spaces like Digimon
1 likeHow have I missed this pice of history im on YouTube every day
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it's best you dont know about the dark side of yt
10 likesSame
0 likesWhen I see his old content the theory I get is a (adult video) addicted failed YouTuber exposing a pedo ring he was apart of to make youtube creators lose money because he couldn’t get any
2 likesIt seems to me that Youtube took a stumble, and everyone else suffered, because of a corporate battle. This is just like, the royals in the middle-ages.
0 likesMatt is the same type of guy who takes the word of heath ledger joker as gospel but cant explain why
0 likeslet me tell you Bee nest removal is the shit bro it's like crack you start you can't stop
0 likesGreat vid, good luck with monetization, you deserve it.
0 likesLovely face, btw.
I must say, the intro looks almost exactly like the Down The Rabbit Hole series by Fredrik Knudsen
1 likeSo, was this what started the adpocalypse? I knew the adpocalypse was a thing but I never knew how it happened. Was this Matt Watson video what started it?
0 likesWhat did any of this accomplish?
0 likesI didn't even realize it even happened.
Amazing video man!
0 likesI could’ve swore the FDA does do hair and skin care products
0 likes1:16 - 1:18 Me trying to make that jump across ledges in most 90's sega/ nintendo games. (Beauty and the Beast--Belle's Quest--Those balconies in the west wing level)
1 likeits been two years, i don't think emplemon is going to talk about pie.
1 likeI can see him as just the guy in the office that already had an account, or he was to work on this project and just to used his account for some reason.
0 likesI like, how this series isn't recommended to people, but videos for kids are. This just shows that YouTube is promoting kid's content, instead of this cool and small documentaries. (Sorry for bad English btw, I am from Soviet Russia)
1 likeYou can tell matt was bullshitting and didnt know what he was saying or talking about just by how he spoke. He spoke like he was making it up as he went and was nervous.
0 likesCan we just be honest here? I don't know if it's been brought up before, but the most likely theory about Matt's reasoning behind all of this is because his YouTube Channel sucked ass and this is his way of lashing out about it? I"m pretty sure someone brought this up (I haven't finished the video yet), but think about it. Jealousy is one mean motherfucker, and with the likes of the Killstream, Drama alert, Metokur, Sargon, the Paul Brohters, ect. Matt saw a podium that he would never reach. So he decided to try and knock everyone else off of it. Pathetic. Just pathetic.
0 likessicc video bro fr, first you hit me with the World Peace theme at 13:22, then George Clanton at 47:06. Great editing and interesting the whole time. Subbed
0 likesMattsWhatItIs as a false flag? That's intriguing! Finding a run-of-the-mill YT'er with cringey content, put the bug in their ear about the evils of YT and let them think they'll become the crusader the people were(n't) asking for, and then when the backlash comes they stand back and watch the torch-bearing villagers burn him to the ground while the puppetmaster gets out clean? Very elaborate, indeed diabolical -- but possible. Through the whole thing, it really felt like Matt was working with info that seemed like it was handed to him
0 likesYou dont have enough subscribers for the content you make
0 likesSo..hmmmm.... really interesting video (not although the way through it yet, but have already seen the brilliant Nerd City full length section) BUT...around the 35 min mark - is the choice of a cover of Rock & Roll Pt 2 an intentional one? I mean, given the artist who recorded the original and what he become infamous for later in this career?
0 likesYeah, not seeing your point here, hitting them where it hurt (money) is a viable tactic to force them to take actions and it seems like it worked
0 likesEmp im high right now and i love you so much keep making the best quality content on youtube
0 likesHoly Shit!!! .... Keeps is a real product!
0 likesYou should create a it will never ever be a shooting game as tf2 :)
0 likesIf someone says something that pisses you off, ask yourself if you being pissed off isn't really fucking convenient to someone with or jockeying for money or political power. From you and over you.
0 likesi wish more people saw this vid
0 likesi don’t think he was a plant, they may have just dumped money on him at random
0 likesAm I the only one who finds it weird how the first half of the video is spent explaining how there is no rabbithole and youtube just serves whatever content is similar to the one you watch, yet the first guest he invites starts his segment by talking about how youtube has a "proven" far-right radicalization rabbithole?
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They never said that. The video just said that some people fear there is a right-wing youtube rabbit hole. Emp lemon nor nerd city stated there was one. Besides the "study" those claims are based on don't really hold up to academic standards or peer review. It doesn't explain by what mechanism the viewer's beliefs are radicalized. It just draws tenuous connections that ignore the important context that, when considered, contradicts alleged connections between popular creators and the far right. They never proved the connection.
19 likes@Adam yeah, and some creators on there were completely unrelated to the far right. Jeff holiday, who was in there, does videos against pseudoscience. He's promoted channels by jews and transwoman multiple times, which as far as I understand, aren't groups anyone in the far right would willingly associate themselves with.
6 likesI don't think it's too far of a stretch to think that anyone watching anti-extreme left or IDW videos would get recommended right wing content, does that mean that somehow all these people are affiliated with each other and are working together to radicalise youth, probably not, it's just the algorithm, I don't think it's any more likely than the algorithm gradually recommending more lefty content. I don't see the problem with calling it a rabbithole, much like a Wikipedia rabbithole. The problem with Matt Wattson's video is implying(or stating) that YouTube is directly responsible for (facilitating) the rabbithole when they obviously weren't.
6 likesJust because there is no dedicated CP wormhole doesn't mean there are no wormholes period.
1 likeThe recommendation system on YouTube does push people towards related content, regardless of context. So if a lot of veiwers watch right wing content after a video, that videos recommendations will include more right wing content so veiwers will stay on the site longer.
A guess a better way to look at it is YouTube creates a personal wormhole for everybody to try and keep them watching anything. So when those wormholes lead to right wing content, and most political violence is overwhelmingly right wing, some consider it a potential problem.
Dude, JPEG mafia in the background holy shit. I got a feeling we’d get along well in real life lmao
0 likesNot YT's fault for kids siging up but WHEN REPORTED they should be taken off the platform. Especially when being sexually inappropriate. ALL SOCIAL media needs to step up. What kid watches TV? Barely any! They're all online. Reporting barely does anything. Youtube and Facebook does allow animal abuse. It's all a MESS and needs a upgrade in security
0 likes15:41 i dont want to laugh because of the subject matter but my man Matt really just spelled it Grammerly-
0 likes"Matt" for sure got one thing right, Youtube could put "13 yr olds stripping un-censored" on the trending page and Youtubers would still crush their mom's hands in a crank vice for even a chance to keep their monetization.... for ALOT of them its ALL about the money..... dont care about others over monetiztion, deff dont care about kid's online safety or following actual laws against advertising to children over monetization and ultimately dont even care about Youtube just look how alot of even semi-large youtubers talk to youtube support on twitter if ANYTHING gets even accidentally messed up on their channel, they turn into spoiled 5 year olds that think they are owed something an talk to youtube support like literal garbage (as if they own their page an just allow youtube to maintain it)... until they get banned or demonetized then its all tears and woah-is-me and "i didnt deserve this, i dont bother ANYBODY.. YOUTUBE, I DONT UNDERSTAND😫😫"... and yet if Youtube died tomorrow and the new "thing" was an app where you live stream hours worth of face-times with your Grandma their would be thousands of youtubers with dead Gmas calling elderly female actresses 3-5 times a day to get in on the wave... they would do taste test reviews for jars of dirt if it got them a chance of going viral.... only on Youtube does a guy become public enemy No. 1 for trying to watch out for the online safety of literal children..... no one could ever prove he had ulterior motives i think he was a guy with ultimately pure motives and 0 time in the public light under his belt that all of the sudden was being talked about/watched by EVERYONE and he made some mistakes...but he noticed an issue he felt needed to have more attention brought apon it so he did....and now whether u like it or not he made Youtube arguably a MUCH safer place for children....
0 likesWhat if he just wanted to insight chaos for his own entertainment
0 likesIs it possible for this man to miss
0 likesWasn’t the real wormhole the friends we made along the way?
0 likesImportant correction: kik is not defunct. Its closure was announced in September last year but then they got bailed out one month later. Fact check your shit, my man
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these videos take a long time to make, and fact checking such a small detail that couldve just been pulled out of the video and nothing wouldve changed is just time waisting
0 likes@Isaac Cea takes 30 seconds in google. nobody's time is that precious
1 likeYou keep asking why the media picked up on his post, sometimes it is just luck
5 likesLoving the use of the doors on the outro
0 likesHuh, I wonder how I missed this whole thing... 🤔
0 likeswould you consider this a form of cancel culture? not this video, but the response matt insited? it seems like the response he was attempting to insight was to cancel the profitability of youtube-or at least, trying to significantly hinder it.
0 likes38:19 thats only half the truth, the full truth is because of the correlation between pewdiepie and nazis. pewdiepie isnt even edgy in the slightest. its because of massive main stream media bias and controversy labeling him as one, and since the controversy involved pewdiepie and nazis, that will lead pewdiepie to nazis eventually. not because of the viewer but because of popular correlations in the past.
18 likesclicked on this video thinking it would be about Arin Hansens insane algorithm conspiracy theories
0 likesyoutube/google should sue him
0 likesI need a list of the soundtrack of this video all of this slaps
0 likesThe real wormhole is the friends made along the way.
0 likesWould work with buzz feed ? The other offender in a separate adpocalypse, interesting
0 likesIf I had to be arranging such a thing as an advertiser, I'll pay multiple people to try do that, and the second one of them succeed, Ill remove all other videos... Maybe if we had upload history of that time we could find a pattern...
0 likesA different approach would be to use bots/close relatives, if he have any family connection to any advertiser that another huge falg
I love the music you use
0 likesWhich came first, the spiral or the rabbit hole?
0 likesThe “wormhole”
2 likesis deep anymore my dudes
lol the keeps.com thing was real. it looked like a parody or something.
0 likesI know the music is credited, but aside from looking through the order of the songs, it's a little hard to know which song is which, so does anyone have timestamps to help anyone know which song is which?
0 likesHe wasn’t wrong about you tubers being greedy
3 likesThis is cool and all but can you post more youtube poops?
1 likemight wanna think about censoring some of your patron IDs
0 likesIf only this video could be blown up as much...
0 likesI'M THE LIZARD KING, I CAN DO ANYTHING as long as it's in shitty MIDI
0 likes>takes stance on subject
0 likes>Is one of the people negatively effected by the spread of the subject
I don't actually think that's why you made the video, but it doesn't look good when you're one of the people possibly losing money. It is absolutely true most of the time controlling their income is the only way to effect large groups of people and rules, status quo etc. in the capitalist system.. which is good, it gives power to the masses (if they can become aware for five seconds and not just do what's easiest and takes the least effort and self reflection) but don't try to pretend it isn't the only real reason why a brand or company will do something most of the time. Youtube, backed by Google has a Uuge pocket book, they can lose a little ( not entirely related but Monopoly s are illegal lol).
PS. Geet a job, srsly.
Yay your videos are monetized now
0 likesRip soldier Voice actor.
1 likeComics Code the new era.
0 likesOnly you would use random oldschool youtube shit like a that little clip of jeepersmedia. Every single one is another blow to my old man soul.
0 likesI see you are a fan of The Doors, emp
1 likeNice reference to down the rabbit hole lol
1 likeSlightly disappointed, thought that was Count Dankula in the thumbnail, great video nonetheless.
10 likesooooh, Red-HAIRing... i get it!
1 likeNice music from World Peace btw
36:59 just bookmarking the Bedhead Bernie segment
0 likesDoes Emp have a discord? If so what is it?
0 likes13:00 - YouTube is supported because it's a crazy huge A.I. learning database btw
0 likesAnd saying him asking for upvotes for attention to his fans like it's a conspiracy when everyone on YouTube knows you gotta smash that like button and subscribe
0 likesI've never heard of this before today, so I don't care about this guy, just wonky expose
28:10 i recognize that background music from the intro of every Nexpo Video ( 29:15 and you will definitely hear it)
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i fucking knew i recognized it from somewhere
0 likesplease somebody tell me where can I find the song at 1:48, it's not in the song list in the credits!
0 likesHis probably doing it for trolling reasons smh
0 likes13:19 i recognize that background music from the intro of MDE: World Peace
4 likesMeanwhile, YT has a 13 yr threshold, then markets itself as the number one kid site... Aaaaaaaaand here we are.
0 likesI thought I heard 1539 N. Calvert 3/4ths of the way through the video. Nice touch.
0 likesoh shit, emplemon face reveal
0 likesIt seems ridiculous to suggest that someone concerned with the alt right pipeline on YouTube (which is a legit thing) would go after pedophiles and not, you know, the thing that he wanted gone. I think he was a washed up YouTuber angry with the site.
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i mean, theres a lot more people who agree with the far right than people that will publicly say they think pedophiles are ok, so you wanna get the one most people will agree with
0 likesOf course, he's an apple user
0 likesAfter watching this twice, i actually sure that i used to watch his nofap video. I never subscribe to him tho. What a surprise that guy cause this shitstorm
0 likesSuzy Lu is probably the next Youtube Geographic
1 likeAll are true simultaneously.
0 likessomething about this video really freaks me out.
0 likesEmpLemon uses JPEGMAFIA as background music.
0 likesi like.
he reminds me of jon bois from sb nation, he looks and sounds like him
0 likesGood old Star_ Thumbnail. Good shit.
1 likeI love your videos so much, please marry me.
1 likeCertainly some Strange Days.
0 likes5:49 Poor Mumkey...
1 likePlease do a filthy frank episode
0 likeshahah i can hear the doors in the background, good taste dude
0 likes51:50 Haha I miss Gran Turismo, it's bad I know where all your songs come from
1 likedown the spiral more like down the rabbit hole
0 likesMatt Watson! From Supermega!
0 likesWhy is the intro so similar to Down the rabbit hole?
0 likesThis never showed up in my feed. That's bizarre
0 likesthis happened on my birthday lol
0 likesNot very consistent Emp.
2 likesThat one Simpson at the start of the video already was green and yet you sat there, did nothing, refused to make him yellow.
Disgusting.
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I know how dare he, we must cancel him on twitter.
1 likeLITERALLY UNWATCHABLE!
1 likegud vid!
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Hello, Daniel Keem.
2 likessecond comment
1 likealso why does this only have a few replies
2 likes@bah7789 Yeah I dont know dude barely any likes aswell
1 like🔫
1 likeThis is quite cursed
0 likesHe’s out of your league, Keem.
0 likesWow, how the turntables...
0 likesThe alternative influence paper was idiotic
0 likes"The Alternative Influence Network" is not a reliable nor legitimate source.
1 like31:10 I wheezed
1 likehis whole purpose was to become famous like filthyfrank but less iq and as white man inconsensious*(idk spelling) pedo comedy"
I like the choice of Alabama Song in the background
0 likesLispy clout chasing nobody, tried to do the "well if i can't have it no one can"
0 likesHold up, was that Strange Days by the Doors. Nice
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Also Whiskey Bar twice lol
1 likePlease stop censoring yourself and make an alt firm of money so that you’re not a shill to the advertisers or “yt monetization”
0 likeswhen peggy started playin in the background i was confused. cool tho
0 likesThe Evolution of EmpLemon
11 likesDank memelord
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Heated gamer
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Dank memelord again
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Internet commentator
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Documentary writer & director
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THE DARK LORD SHALL RISE AGAIN!
0 likes@Nero Bernardino *dank lord
0 likes3:08 can someone please tell me that song
0 likes“Hit then where it hurts—in their wallet” sounds like the slogan of a shitty political campaign
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White Matrix so it sound like some crappy slogan from communism/socialist political party.
11 likesHe was right about it being a pressure point, but it's almost like that's what he was told to say as a puppet
0 likesYeah, it does. It’s true, though. Companies do jack shit about anything, regardless of how important or not the thing is, until they think it’ll make sales better or worse. Usually it’s hard to motivate people to “vote with their wallet,” but he did it with the banner of fighting predation. Too bad he applied it in the worst possible situation, Jesus.
6 likesIt's absurd how pretty much all of Emp's new uploads since 2019 are copyright noticed one way or the other, that or Emp deactivates the Offline Download option...
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You gotta give it a few hours before offline download will work
0 likesim here for the tf2 refs
0 likesthis is why you don't do Reddit
1 likeThis guy started copa
0 likesDamn.. Matt Watson really fell off after SuperMega ended.
7 likesMore like #mattwakeup
0 likes"Down the Spiral"
119 likesFrederick Knudsen needs to see this it seems.
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Thought it was familliar
1 likeI immediately did a quick googly if emplemon is actually frederik knudsen
1 likeWhy did he literally perfectly rip off Fredrik's intro?
7 likes@3nthamornin Because it is funny.
6 likes@3nthamornin As a friendly reference to a colleague he either admires or knows personally
15 likesI'm like 90% sure they've collabed before. Maybe I'm confusing t
1 likeSomeone with Internet Historian, my fav tubbers are all pretty incestuous
@3nthamornin They know each other lol
0 likes@Kohei Nagano yes Jeff the killer
0 likesA RED SPY IS IN THE BASE???!?!?!?!?!
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A red spy in the base!? Oh...oh no... RIP Rick May
0 likes:'(
You mentioned Kik, Kik isn't dead. With less people paying attention to it it's become a hive of pedos.
10 likesGood god this comment section is a dumpster fire
0 likesMamamax actually said a really good point, "that's like explicitly blaming tumblr for rapes and murders"
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@Lewd Jared sorry, bad with identifying social media
0 likesI think he was a plant
0 likes"Stop trying to milk this for attention"
104 likes- Keemstar 34:56, in the act of milking it for attention
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To be fair to Keemstar he helped the case against Matt by being able to contact YouTube about how they were tackling pedo comments on YouTube and he also had a right to extensively cover Matt as Matt made multiple livestreams to rally people against YouTube.
18 likesKeemstar if anything, is the human equivalent of a “necessary evil”
17 likes@DKing The best description of Keemstar I have ever read
5 likesI was about to comment about that, his job is to milk for attention
2 likes@DKing "Can't wait to report your death, huh-ha!"
4 likes-Keemstar to a now-dead Cancer victim.
N E C I S S A R Y E V I L
JakeSpacePirate E name any other person who has the amount of connections and resources to people inside YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, etc while being able to avoid being blackballed. Keen/Drama Alert is a massive resource for people who can’t in any regular situation bring attention to their situation. So much so that even people who have directly criticized Keem and DA go on (jacksfilms v Jinx being the biggest example I can think of).
1 likeI’ve loved/love creators like TB, Etika, and Pyro, people Keem has shit on in the past but for better or for worse he’s not going away, and his connections make him useful.
@DKing Oh he is going away, and so are you, and so am I, it's all a matter of time, and I will be remembered a lot more fondly. Keem is a psycho. Can't wait for his fans to come after me for criticizing him.
1 likeWho tf gets that hyped over sponsors pulling their ads?
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That guy apparently
0 likesa failed content creator with nothing to lose. He couldn't get monetized bc his content was edgy, so he decided that no one else can get monetized either. Corporations took full advantage of his little campaign and the rest is history.
2 likesThe comfort of being able to like a video while watching the ad and then being validated in your like
4 likesI propose a fifth alternative, and while this incredibly far fetched, I still feel that there is a likelihood that Matt made all of this with the intention of protecting children, however he was simply too stubborn or unknowing to truly realise the consequences.
4 likesI feel that this could be a failed movement, not one with anterior motive.
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point
0 likesSpring is no longer the season for cleaning but for creating chaos.
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Spring was always chaos--why do you think the birds and insects are always screaming?
2 likesOof relevant to the worlds situation currentl
0 likesmake a vid about Jerma and Star_ and how Star's channel is dead, or just talk about dead channels in general
0 likes39:38 Kinda funny considering he is literally an 'SJW bogeyman' who wants to take their ad revenue, and had succeeded in doing so already.
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Love ur vids
2 likesWait, are you based?
6 likes@Nick Name No then?
2 likesMatt watson is the chris benoit of youtube
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I would give that comparison to LensCapProduction aka Mr. Anime instead tbh
0 likesMatt "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" Watson
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Is there a singe person who doesnt think like that?
2 likes@Zevaron XZ people who can listen
2 likes@jeccf Which are a minority... Unfortunately.
1 likeMatt "The Gamer" Watson
3 likesMatt Watson? From supermega?!
0 likesThis retroactively pisses me off
0 likesWas PewDiePie being satirical though?
1 likeYT geographic the weevster 18, but put your sharp eye on a rest if you make one about the subject
0 likesPlease
Why are you nabbing the Down the Rabbit Hole opening
0 likesDid you just learn the word dubious?
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did matt just learn the word disgusted?
0 likesThis one man single-handedly changed Youtube where a hundred thousand couldn't, and the result was C-List, worthless Youtubers screeching out because now they have to find a real job, and AAA-List Youtubers crying out because they lost 20 dollars a month.
1 likeLike pottery.
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single handedly changed youtube? advertisers came back, and the coppa shit was coming anyways so any "change" this man did was going to happen not too long later
0 likeshe didnt change shit
I feel like he was just a troll. Maybe he had some political motives, but was mostly just a troll.
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The Virgin conspiracy theories vs the Chad nihilist who just wants to set the world on fire.
23 likeshot take bro
1 likeBroke: "Bush did 9/11 to get oil"
369 likesWoke: "Matt Watson didn't want to destroy pedos, only youtubers & the site for some unknown agenda"
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Woke: Bush did 9/11 to aid the state of Israel. Oil was no concern as Saddam attempted to make many oil deals with the US, Bush rejected them all.
27 likes@Wildburn
3 likesMy name Jeffery
Matt Watson wanted to destroy youtubers because they insulted pedos
8 likes@Bl1tz Because it's slowly,b ut surely going on now.
0 likesThis is it, men, the breaking point of tham S o c i e t y.
@Bl1tz lol I know your comment might be ironic, but its probably because the US justifies attacking the middle east by saying that Israel is "our greatest ally." Of course the US could always find some way to justify attacking Venezuela too honestly.
3 likes"It's not about the money. It's about sending a message"
1 likeMatt Watson did Adpocalypse 2
0 likesFelipe Jaquez Everyone knows that Matt Watson was an News reporter who went undercover as an YouTuber to destroy YouTube and boost traditional media.
0 likes49:06
0 likesInteresting.
0 likes27:30 - This doesn't sound right. Even Keemstar said it was comedy videos but that he thought it was weird that a guy who was attacking numerous people on twitter for "questionable comments directed at minors" would make jokes like this directed at minors. Matt at the time wasn't just doing the youtube thing, he was screeching at numerous youtube creators saying they themselves were the P word for making sketchy jokes.
9 likesNo one thought it was genuine. The fact that even the gnome lord openly said it wasn't leads me to believe this was either just a mistake on your part due to faulty memory or very misplaced altruism.
What song is that 47:16
0 likesWhy did you use the mainstream media reporting on Biden’s dementia as an example of their low standards? I think it’s a serious topic. Other than that the video was amazing, keep it up.
1 like33:19 Ironically enough, Garry Glitter who sung Rock and Roll part 2 was a convicted pedophile.
36 likesDunno if Emp knew this and added it for that reason, or just felt like making a Joker reference
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EmpLemon is an expert of pasting pop culture together to make audiovisual collages.
2 likesivanmegafanboy I love the amount of TF2 stuff
0 likesThe downward spiral in this one is strong, I must say.
5 likesrip rick may
0 likes"Think of the children!" Makes me think of a channel/personality that's basing it's entire premise for censorship on that premise.
4 likesI feel like I’m in a really small majority that actually watched his old content before any of this lol if anyone got any questions about my gauge of his personality before all this ask me
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Minority*
0 likesWhich of the three hypotheses presented in the video do you think was the reasoning behind Matt's crusade? One of them, two of them, all of them, none of them?
1 likeFlint Glockwood Good question that has different answers depending on two factors: if his old content was genuine or not. What I watched specifically were his nofap videos because I was trying to start it myself and wanted somebody’s story to watch to help me get through it. These videos were intended to show him combatting the overwhelming amount of anxiety he had socially even speaking to somebody, and just a deep look at porn addiction and the side effects of it in general. In these videos, he mentioned all types of fetishes he had with a straight face and with no layers of irony or sense of humor to it. He also approached women and simply asked them the time or something and had the goal of improving his social capability. It almost felt like he was trying very hard to be honest to himself and not for an audience to see, like he was making the videos for himself as a motivator for him to keep improving. If all of this was simply a 2 year long facade then I could believe any of emp’s hypothesis most likely leaning towards the corporate shill argument since I do agree that it is weird that he has no public record asides from the videos on his channel and his reddit account. However, when I first saw the video myself when it came out, it really just felt like a normal video from him and didn’t feel forced at all. What I’m saying is that him in that video didn’t feel out of character for the man I’d been watching. He would always take the extreme paths to get things done in his old content too. Like nofap for example, in order for him to quit porn he completely stopped masturbating all together. In order to get over social fears, he forced himself into dozens of social scenarios where he was visibly uncomfortable. The approach he took with this didn’t look much different to me upon initial viewing. In summary, I’d say that if it was all manufactured for years and he is a corporate shill and the like, then he had me and his small audience absolutely fooled. If the exposé was genuine, then it fit his previously seen character just fine and didn’t seem very outlandish at all. Let me know if I need to follow up to make anything I said more coherent, I’m a bit drunk atm lmao
3 likesVery interesting. Do you think with what you've said so far, if he was truly genuine, that perhaps he actually didn't have any malice behind his actions and was just taking an extreme approach to his goal? And your comment was coherent dont worry about it haha.
0 likesI watched his old videos too, your bang on.
0 likesMatt Watson? From SuperMega?
0 likesI have a saying
11 likes“People will do anything for anything no matter what the cost is.”
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Very wise, TheGreenPig321.
4 likesI've heard stuff to that effect before, but it's still true
1 likeVery cool.
0 likesMatt Watson? From SuperMega?
0 likesmain problem with theory about Matt Watson being leftist activist is that he cooperated with corporations even though no leftist activist would do that
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He's probably a Sorosite or someone that believes in using the massive resources of a corporation or private foundation to spread far left ideologies. That's essentially what kind of leftist Barack Obama is.
0 likesMatt Watson from Super mega?
0 likesThe "Alternative Influence" article used poor methodology to arrive at weak conclusions.
1 like--Comment made before point of article being brought up was finished.
Matt Watson from SuperMega?
0 likesNice video thumbnail
1 likedamn peggy
0 likesI can't find the song at 1:50 can someone link it to me.
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Discarded - Miami
0 likes@Peynet did he edit the music or anything because when I looked up the song it sounds nothing like it does in the given time stamp
0 likes@WEIRDSTUFF It seems so because I looked up a 1 hour version of the song and at around the 3:20 mark, there's the first half of the bit being played on the video at the 1:50 mark.
0 likesEdit: On this one you can find the bit: https://youtu.be/Cw2-RMjFr7A
he's an accelerationist of sorts
4 likesMatt Watson? From supermega?
0 likes9:28 um there's a sexually suggestive thumbnail video with more 600k views which is more than 400k, the main point is right but the way it's shown was wrong in saying "they fail to get even close"
0 likesi thought this was Uzumaki for a second
0 likesyou are nitpicking and biased,
0 likesI win,
bye bye
I like how we're quickly finding out what Emp looks like IRL.
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He did a face reveal on his podcast forever ago
13 likes"Quickly"? Real OGs already knew that he's shown some snippets of himself years ago
0 likes37:50 "Far Right" yeah ok. sure.
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Funny how he didn't mention how accounts which talk about so called "far right" content now get booted left right and center for no actual reason whilst the rootless, internationalist vids from the other side still stay up and garner views. Two examples being James Allsup and Cultured Thug. Hypocrisy much?
2 likesI agree that a lot of people who circle the "Anti-SJW wormhole" of YouTube are not some of the greatest human beings. But maybe that type of content becomes so popular on YouTube because of the Liberal Blanket that hangs heavily upon all of main stream media. People get tired of woke, liberal, and overly progressive content being shoved down their throats in all of mainstream media, so they congregate around or create their own media here on YouTube.
2 likesOh that screams 4chan OP
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Especially /Pol/
0 likesThing is, there's facial detection software that could more than likely pluck a stray picture of Matt off the internet; whether it be a friend's social media or an old account he forgot about, it's difficult to keep your face offline.
1 likeOnce a thread or two has been picked up, you'll find answers.
These are always so neat, I really appreciate the incredibly hard work you do on the youtube geographic videos.
0 likesSerious talk, your channel and content just keeps getting better and better. The way you've evolved your online presence has been a sight to behold, and I'm loving the deep dives into YouTube as well as the "Never Ever" series. Keep up the great work!
1 likethank you for the knowledge, it's always cool to see more youtubers trying to push the educational content
0 likesWell researched and very informative as always EmpLemon. Also shout out to the Nerd!
0 likesyou really know how to keep your viewers glued to their screen. I was really bored today. I wasn't in a mood of watching a 1 hour long video but once I clicked on the video I only clicked off after the video ended. Thanks for this amazing video. :)
0 likesEmp I love Your content, and What You do.
1 likeI'd like to adress that in Your "meybe conspiracy" segment You have made a very human brain type mistake of grouping evidences for him being either a shill, SJW or a Joker. It is entirely possible that he was all. People are not a one dimentional lines of correlating political views, abilities, previous experiences, actions and mental dedication. All of this mix and match. Finding and fitting perfect pieces leaves You with many different half finished puzzles, where there should be just one. I simply believe he was all of them. a disgrunteled guy with a bit politically autistic views who got or made an offer to help out in the rat race against YouTube.
This was really well done, excellent video.
0 likesHonestly, it would really make perfect sense if he was a failed YouTuber and also an Industry Plant, the fact that he had previous experience on the platform could have made him more suitable for the job, or maybe him having past experiences could have been used as a cover up to give him more credibility, no would suspect him of being hired if he already had a previous YouTube channel.
0 likesEither way, this is shining the light, and it's important that people keep talking about it.
This was so well put together. I hope this comment helps it reach more people.
0 likesOh dang, you and Frederick Knudsen doing a collab would be something else. Great stuff as always!
0 likesI never thought I'd see an EmpLemon video supporting Youtube in any way.
1 likeMatt disappearing seems to put a hole in the theory of him only wanting relevance. But doing the disappearing act if anything has only generated even more interest in him, and made him notorious as that guy who tried to singlehandedly bring down an entire platform.
0 likesEven in the end of days, when nothing is certain, the only constant is that emp lemon will still be here supplying quality content. Stay healthy friend; the world needs you.
0 likesAll those years of making YouTube content, and Matt never learned to back away from the fucking microphone to avoid earraping listeners on every "P" sound.
1 likeAm I the only one that adores EmpLemon’s taste in music??
1 likeImma be honest. I never seen this guy in my life and I've been on this site for 10 years
0 likesits fun to try and solve it with him and it feels like a fun game that gives you clues. Kind of like an annoyed DM
0 likesemp must be amazing at essays... well done
0 likesSo basically, combination of reddit, mainstream media, YouTube's algorithm, and corporations (Basically the four horsemen of the apocalypse for YouTube) disrupted the platform even further because of one failed comedian turned breadtube grifter/potential corporate plant...
0 likesGood video
Matt is the type of guy who would nuke a country if he thought he had the moral highground.
1 likeI mean, the YT algorithm can totally spiral someone into heavy political propaganda. It happened to me. When an algorithm is designed specifically to get you more of the thing you like, it will obviously do the same to topics like political spheres.
0 likesYou always pick the best background music! Opening and closing with the Alabama Song was an awesome idea. Thanks for throwing in strange days too
0 likesTheory: Matt was an advertiser that wanted the CPM to fall so he could buy cheaper ads
0 likesMy question is how did he find this "Wormhole" in the first place? Clearly he was watching that type of content before.
1 likeYour next video should be on the vanoss crew and how that has changed so much. I don’t know if you do drama but that crew was one of the biggest on YouTube for a bit and have since changed a whole bunch with a lot of drama and a good few leaving. It’s an interesting but sad rabbit hole if you read about it.
0 likesMatt was clearly an incredibly misguided brocialist who has no idea how to act. His attempts to boycott are hilariously bad, and he continued bootlicking. Breadtube loves these class reductionist types.
0 likesgood documentary I keep coming back and watching it in parts
0 likesWhen he laid out that conspiracy theory...
0 likesI felt that
Youtube's lack of communication is correct. Please save Tweeterman287's YouTube Monetization by letting YouTube know. He's been left unanswered by them as to why he's ineligible to monetize videos for 10 years. He's also a Youtube Legend too for being there for more than 13 years and was known at that time as American Ashens.
0 likesYoutube just needs to hire someone with a high charisma and intellegence stat
0 likesThat esprit at 47:00 is fire. George Clanton/Esprit is a baller, love his music and glad to see people listen to him
2 likes15:44 I don't understand why you would expect him to be as happy about a response from YouTube in the form of a half assed tweet than a company announcing that they're pulling their ads.
0 likes43:55 Also, saying the nyt article created a controversy out of thin air doesn't make sense, as they're just pointing out the things PewDiePie has done that make him seem anitsemetic.
Overall this seems like a far fetched theory. Though I don't think Watson was a good person, he was smart to alert the advertisers as that would have been the only way to motivate youtube to take action. Also we have no real proof that he has corporate connections.
Kik isn't actually defunct. They announced its closure but in never actually closed because a company bought it in late 2019.
0 likesOtherwise, great video!
WE DID IT REDDITORS! WE SAVED YOUTUBE!
0 likesto be fair, if someone suddenly pulled up to me and asked "HI, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SHOOTING AN ADULT VIDEO?", i would have the same reaction.
0 likesThis video is engaging as hell you earned a sub
0 likesIt's been a long time. Welcome back, YTGeo
0 likesRealizing Papa Garbodor let you use his music is the greatest crossover. just had to point that out.
0 likesAt 19:58, you said Kik was defunct, but in reality, it's still alive but under different ownership.
2 likesBro, your song selection in these videos are always top notch, I see you!
0 likesman screw going to the movies. ill just keep watching these hour long videos
0 likesthis episode I'm more familiar with the music. other than that, great job, lemon.
0 likesThe real horror here is the way he uses that microphone, he bought a 100 dollar mic and somehow misused it so bad it's sounds like a laptop mic
0 likesdamn another great video keep it up
0 likesDang man I watched your youtube poops as a kid and just saw one of your videos in my recommended and holy shit I guess that influenced me because I like tf2 and have liked it for a while and I love Pink Floyd, this is a weird world
0 likesEmperorlemon ghetto are ironically one of the smartest guys I've ever heard talk. The reason I think that is his because YouTube is your life. One thing's for sure if I would have talked to you about football and strategy in football I could probably annihilate you in an argument if you were to ever Heat about football. I think you are the embodiment of what's left of YouTube soul. Keep up the amazing work you magnificent bastard.
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YT is drama channels?
0 likesI know a large number of your fans are still here from YTPs, but seriously, HOW HAS THIS CHANNEL NOT BLOWN UP BY THIS POINT???
0 likesThe video went from video essay to Deus Ex in like 5 minutes
0 likesGoddamit Lemon, that bit with the Pappa John's pizza made me very hungry
0 likes“All it takes for shit to hit the fan, is the will of a single man..”
1 likeWould you believe me if i told you i had no idea about this controversy despite using youtube since its first revision back in 2005ish?
0 likesInteresting research. However, the YouTube algorithm isn't indiscriminate. Or rather, the algorithm's capabilities are not indiscriminately created or enforced, to say nothing of their manual activities.
0 likesHow come we're doing a fredrik knudsen rip off? A joke I missed? :)
0 likesGreat video tou!
11:16 isn't that a Star_ thumbnail?
85 likesEdit: Yep it is.
"Tf2: What game is this?"
Man i miss that guy.
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Tf2 community doesnt like star anymore
0 likesMe: “How about instead of ruining content for adults you could do some fucking parenting “
0 likesParents: “no I don’t think I will”
"Youtube bad pedo bad"
9 likesupvote if you agree
reddit do your thing
I wonder if this has something to do with coppa? Because if it is, then I guess that's why we are in this mess right now.
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It appears this is what eventually led to the COPPA lawsuit by making legislators (or their corporate puppeteers) realize this was an angle they could come at YouTube (Alphabet Inc) /the advertisers/the creators. I'm unsure though.
0 likesI remember when I used to watch this matt guy talking about no fap videos, lol
1 likeIm literally shaking and crying rn, Jon Bois would never do this.
0 likeshahaha I love the down the rabbit hole remix. great youtuber.
0 likesWh- why are you so informational, but also so fucking funny? HUHHHHH???
2 likesIt’s 6:11 AM and I haven’t gone to bed yet.
1 likeYou bet I’m watching this!
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I woke up at 8:30 AM today due to my dogs not shutting up. I think my sleep schedule might get fixed.
0 likesOhhhh yes, the good ol wasp removal videos
0 likesDear Emplemon, I beg of you to make a youtube geographic episode about the updated Idubbbz and Leafy interaction once it all settles down.
0 likesI haven’t watched your shit in a while, you got so much better!
0 likesalso bernie has great taste in music
0 likesfuck yeah peggy and justice
Anyone else remember when this was a ytp channel and it was actually funny?
3 likes19:01 love how the reddit NPC's have neck beards lol
5 likesHoly shit, the day this was posted, he returns.
0 likesI say it's a mixture of the first 2 theories. He was making PUA/alpha parody videos and wasn't very successful at it. His anger turned towards youtube mixing in with his political ferver. "Clearly youtube supports the Right-wing and were throttling my success". He comes in looking for blood and cowards out once he gets a hit in. All three theories require stupidity at some level because what matt did was stupid. I think it's more believable that one pissed ginger came up with a half-assed plan than a corporate conspiracy employing some schmuck to stir this up so they have leverage against youtube. It's such a dumb idea that by now we'd have people coming out talking about it.
0 likesSince YouTube is owned by Google and Google is such a monopoly they can just make the rules. Cant Google just seriously destroy a companies profit if they wanted to? So Idk why advertisers can even stand a chance in trying to make a get cheaper advertising.
0 likesThis could be on Netflix
0 likesGod: Look at my beautiful creation.
0 likesThe creation being humanity: Invents Money
God: No. That is not how you're supposed to play the game.
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you are so poorly mistaken i hope you dont ruin your life over a delusion like that
1 likeLove the intro - shoutout to Fredrik Knudsen
0 likesMan tries to become Filthy Frank, fails miserably and gets mad at YouTube
0 likesAnd somehow I didn't hear about this until now.
0 likesThe BreadTube theory makes little sense considering he never uploaded leftist content on his old channel or MattsWhatItIs.
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But he uploaded satire of right content, and critized it on his reddit
9 likes@grumspf if he really wanted to hurt right-wing creators he would have tried to get their channels AdSense revoked. His plan hurt everyone.
12 likes@Sam Higgins To be fair, left-wing creators have never been the most rational.
17 likesYeah, its pretty clear he is not left leaning by how little substancial critique there is about companies or at least acknowledge any kind of exploitation
7 likesBreadTube deserves purging.
6 likes@Sam Higgins I think they see Youtube as mostly right-wing. While platforms like Reddit are more populated by leftists. So he would, at least in his mind hurt more right-wingers then lefties.
4 likes@I'm the Man There is a large difference between "left-wing" and identity politics.
7 likes@Sir Dankleberry I disagree
4 likesSam Higgins Well intersectional “woke” progressivism is much more mainstream and centred within political western left then any talk of class related stuff these days.
0 likesThe “identity politics” crowd you talk off all identify as being staunchly left wing, communist, socialist, Marxist or whatever so yeah they are very much apart of the left and are much more representative of what the left is at this point then any old school socialist.
Bro why the hell is your music taste so good? George clanton? Peggy? Boards of canada? Hell yea.
0 likesYoutube, for once, is the victim
0 likeslove the doors orchestra music in the back ground
0 likesI GOT THE REFERENCE AT THE BEGINNING TO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!!!
1 likeAh yes, 8 bit Doors songs to trash a scummy dude.... Good times
0 likesAll things aside, that cover of Whiskey Bar in the background is tight.
0 likesvery high quality, portal music at the end is a good choice
0 likesthis how you get a bachlor in puplic relations
0 likesI would like to watch animal abuse
0 likesYouTube: We think you would like mukbang
Wait...
0 likesSo..I watched the entire thing..and I still am confused actually, isn't matt the good guy?
stop the ads as fast as i can
1 likei'll stop them because i'm a ginger haired man
it sounds like matt knows nothing about technology
0 likesI never knew that gingers with brown eyes existed. What is this demon spawn?
1 likeI thought the hair loss product was a joke
0 likesI think he just wanted chaos.
1 likeSomething about his eyes just feels... wrong. The way he stares at the camera just doesn't feel right.
0 likesI swear the doctor spiral character is exactly like doctor joints from a video at like 1000 views called "JOYCE CARNIVAL" my buddy made 4 or 5 years ago.
0 likesJeeze I had to look away from the screen whenever i saw clips of matts video..
0 likeshe looks like a music producer
0 likesIt’s probably wrong but is it possible that all the theory’s could be true? The failed youtuber theory explains his old weird content, the Bernie pipeline explains the leftist reddit post and anger against right wing channels. Finally the corporations gave him the resources he needed to pull of this stunt.
0 likesSo let’s put it together, Matt starts his YouTube channel where he post satirical content, he has a little success but not enough to make him a big youtuber. He try’s making a second Chanel but still receives no success.
Then there’s the Bernie pipeline theory. He has leftist views and is unhappy with how youtube seems to send people down a pipeline to right wing channels. He wants to hurts these channels by hitting their revenue through means of causing an ad fiasco but he doesn’t act just yet because he knows it will also hurt left wing channels.
Finally the corporate plant theory (This one is probably the hardest to theorize on because we don’t know how he has ties to these corporations). So YouTube is now forcing advertisers to pay the bill for checking to see if ads are running on advert friendly videos. They don’t like it so they devise a plan to get YouTube to lower its prices. Somehow Matt has ties to these companies and somehow he becomes a crucial part of their plan to lower the cost of adverts. So now the corporations have their inside man to be the face of their operation. They also provide him with the resources to make the video blow up.
So let’s sum it up. An unsuccessful youtuber is disgruntled that he saw no success and is spiteful towards all the others who did see success. He is also a leftist who discovers that YouTube is pipelining viewers towards right wing channels and is angry at this and perhaps also at the fact that many of these channels are more successful than him so he decides to attack their revenue but doesn’t act because he knows leftist channels will be affected. Finally the corporations want cheaper ads on YouTube so they devise their plan to use Matt(who is somehow connected to them), a man who has a mostly blank internet paper trail and who knows lots about the about the site. He also has his own motivations throwing a wrench into the idea of a single solid theory forming. They have the influence to pull strings so Matt’s video succeeds and to Matt the pros now outweigh the con of leftist channels being hurt by an ad hit. Matt has his vengeance against successful creators, hurts right wing channels and the corporations have cheaper ad rates.
Idk maybe I’m wrong maybe I’m right.
I'm more suprised nestle even pretended to care about children....
0 likes30:39 sunset park? great stuff emp
0 likesThat title belongs on GameFAQs! I rest my case.
0 likesbut the the fact this was happening for a long time!!!!!!! we all here remember the elsagate situation in 2013
0 likesPeople are so impulsive aren't they?
0 likesSomeone needs to petition for Elon musk to find a competitor to YouTube
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Competitors already exist and as far as I know they don't have a scalability problem. They just need people to use them.
0 likes@Phoebe Aurum I'd mainly say fund it for the publicity. Everyone loves Elon, so if he funds a platform, it is guaranteed some will flock to it.
1 likeThis ARG is really fuckin' nuts.
0 likesMy theory is that some men just want to see the world burn
0 likesI thought the ad was some weird joke until I saw the link.
0 likesi cant believe that emp is actually super asian .... just like me
1 likeGarbodors music caught me off guard
0 likesKik isn't a defunct app just yet Emperor Lemon
0 likesCan those creator sue matt for risking thier lost of income???
0 likesuve been my fav since literally spongebob poop
0 likesIf we make 4chan care we could find this dude lol remember they studied the earths rotation and the stars to find a flag pole to fuck with shia labeouf and some power lines in the middle of nowhere to find some isis recruitment camp I think then gave the information to the Russian government and the camp got bombed. I may be miss inform on the camp thing but I do know 4chan was fucking with Shia and the pole thing.
0 likes47:20 that DATA WING though
0 likesSo here's the guy who caused Spongebob videos to have disabled comments.
0 likes33:12 Rock and Roll part 2. How ironic.
0 likesMatt is a certified Brainlet. - TM Pyrocynical.
0 likes40:00 Boards of Canada - Gyroscope (Geogaddi)
0 likesThe fact that you're using Pedobear as a symbol for pedophiles and not a symbol for prevention of pedophilia angers me. Do your research on meme symbols smh.
0 likesEyyy it's the Garbodors theme tune! 21:43
0 likesHonestly? I don't even remember this
0 likesWait Kik is defunct since when I still use the shit for like the last 5 years where have I been lmao.
1 likeam I the only one who thought the guy on the thumbnail looks like knowing better?
0 likesMATT WATSON! FROM SUPER MEGA!
0 likesthe doors, jpegmafia, and esprit hell yeah brother
0 likesAnybody knows the song at 49:58?
0 likesWait why is no one talking about the baby monkey thing? That's so fucked up 😳
0 likesyay he used V A P O R W A V E as background music
0 likesI like the background JPEG mafia around 37 lmao
0 likesGreat
0 likesJust great
I'm never eating nestle again
Gimme all the reddit karma points mommy
1 likeHe looks like my friend Mitch
0 likesYo I hear that JPEGMAFIA in there :D
1 likeYou sound just like behind the meme.
0 likesMake Frying Dory.
1 like😫 my boi emp chubbed up a lil 😫
0 likesMatt Watson from Supermega 😳
0 likesMatt Watson = Carole Baskin
0 likesBork Laser sighting at 3:08
0 likesExcellent content from an OG to the OGs
3 likesMatt Watson? Of Supermega?
0 likes40:10 Maybe it's just me and I could be wrong about this, but I don't recall Keemstar being part of the Anti-SJW, Alt-Right, and Man-o-sphere communities
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The thing is that Anti-SJW and Alt-Right aren't the same thing. The Alt-Right is basically the right-wing equivalent to the SJW. I'm pretty sure Keemstar is centrist (like many of the YouTubers mentioned in this video).
15 likesYeah, that's sort of the point. You start with edgy humor directed within the youtube community (collabs, drama, content cop), then the algorithm sends you to edgy humor at the expense of outsiders (cringe comps), then serious analysis and discussion of the people in these videos (the periphery of anti-SJW), and finally a web of political influencers. It's no one's fault--I hope--just kind of how the system works.
10 likesSeeing that Matt was a filthy redditor, I think his motivations could be a combination of all 3: A failed youtuber that wanted to take down YT because of the RW pipeline, so he got woke and shilled to corporations to achieve this end.
10 likesI'm on board w corporate shill.
0 likesThis video was severely lacking in Death Grips' "The Powers That B", the song, not the album.
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My favorite color is oh my god bitch
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What!? Matt Watson? from SuperMega?!
0 likesI can't believe SuperMega's Matt Watson destroyed YouTube
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I always knew he'd be the one to do it
1 likeThat down the rabbit hole intro gag really got me.
10 likesDamn. How could you edit and listen to his voice. He's too cringe
0 likesWith the blatant lies and argument deflection, you'd think he's running for president.
3 likesLook Gary look there I am!!!
1 like2017 : Youtube Bad >:(
15 likes2020 : Defending YouTube from ginger
This new year is strange.
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Emp is more about defending the creators not the platform
18 likesYoutube bad isnt always bad
5 likesSometimes ginger bad
YouTube is bad but let’s blame for what actually have done, rather then making stuff up because we hurt innocent creators with our rage.
3 likesYoutubes leadership is bad. Despite being bad they can also be good at times. However youtube is different from the people who run it. Its as much about the content creators and the people who view it. Actually in the video he mentions the monetization hack hurt youtube, not the company but the real people involved.
2 likes#YoutubeGoSleep
0 likesMan, Supermega really had a toll on him huh.
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Skoob 😔
0 likesInsert high pitched shrieking
1 likeNice Star_ reference
0 likes"Stop trying to milk this for attention."
285 likes-Keemstar
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
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You know its bad when even keemstar calls you out on it
53 likesMeanwhile, when you visit Keemstar's channel and type "Jake Paul" or "Logan Paul" you can see AT LEAST two dozen videos on the same topic.
1 likeAlso, I think Keem would respond to this by saying: "What did you say about me? Wow, I have files on top of files ready to drop. You think you can swing at me? I'll swing right back at cha, you're already over, buddy" xD
ImmaLittlePip i mean he’s the cockroach of youtube, indirectly or the push for the loss of Etika.
0 likesSo THIS is where it all started. Interesting.
22 likesYoutube monetization was a mistake in the first place.
48 likesI remember when nobody made money. The site was organic. Youtube can run ads all they want, but giving creators money directly is the single worst problem with the platform. Patreon was an inevitable conclusion, and could have completely supplanted the partner program. One of the biggest issues with the content of videos, those aimed at children, is a direct result of this. Children aren't going to be providing patreon bux, which completely cuts out the feedback loop of toy channels exploding in viewership and would also do a lot to reduce clickbait.
The problem with ad revenue sums up as "it's not voluntary", i.e. the viewer has no control over the money they generate.
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Agreed.
16 likesI've literally heard people in the modern day say shit along the lines of "Well you can't just expect Youtubers to not make money". Holy shit, the mentalities that are bred over a short 10 years. I remember first being introduced to this website back in 2005 and everything was so much different, much in the way Emp has lamented in prior videos.
People made content because they wanted to create and share their creative works. It was a work of passion with the only fulfillment coming from amusing internet plebs. Sure, there was a lot of shit, but everything was unique. Trying to find new, creative shit would always turn up results.
But monetization happened and what followed was everyone trying to replicate the risk vs. reward meta game. Everyone says, does, and makes the same shit nowadays because there's a proven formula to success. And god fucking damn, does it get obnoxious hearing "MAKE SURE TO HIT LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE GUYS" every time I watch a video.
@Miselus FF + uBlock Origin + uMatrix + PiHole on an OpenWRT router + Debian as my desktop OS. You don't gotta tell me, coach. But keep spreading the good word to those who don't know.
1 likepolitical theory sounds to be the best one
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@likira111 we are talking about SJWs here, so yeah
0 likes"Extensive network of far-right influencers"
124 likes"Right-Wing Propaganda"
Laughs in Bitchute
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a human being amnayplaceholders bitchute makes YouTube looks like far left left wing site.
21 likesI didn't know that was a thing, so I looked it up. Yikes.
8 likes@Orgaya nah its good as a backup
17 likes@YAH21 Ah yes, good idea.
1 likeStyxhexenhammer one of the biggest people on bitchute who averages around 60k views on a video on Youtube gets 4000 views and below on his bitchute exclusive content. So only about 6% of his average viewing audience is actually leaving YT to go watch exclusive content you can only see there. Youtube (google) has a monopoly on online videos and while the off-shoots are better then nothing they are not the solution.
13 likesthe site's full of conspiracy theories about jews and white genocide
18 likesLaughs in Google Censorship
3 likes@NobleRaider2747 Plays
10 likes>conspiracy theories
@Hung Jury SR4 yes, conspiracy theories. what's not clicking?
12 likes@Geeeee8 Lol if the far-right shut up you wouldn't get censored
1 like@TwoTonMoon yea you're right I guess if people I don't like can organically hit the front page then censorship is good
14 likes@Falinks I just find it funny that leftists will say things like, "we're winning, we're replacing them" when talking to each other and to the general public, but when talking to right-wingers, will say things like, "the Great Replacement is a crazy nazi conspiracy theory."
10 likesAll you have to do to see that the west is becoming less white is take a look at the demographics throughout the years and white birth-rate of any western nation (except Poland and Hungary because those nations are doing the right thing). For example, ethnic Brits are now a minority in London, the capital of England. The United Nations literally refers to it as "Replacement migration."
@Hung Jury SR4 🐣🐰
0 likesPolandgod 75
1 likeso now it's becoming a far right censorship scam. so much for improvements.
@Falinks Happy Easter.
1 like@Hung Jury SR4 that is the worst argument I've ever heard
0 likes@Pelle Why?
1 like@Pelle i mean you didnt bother to refute him lmao, cant really call your's any better
1 like@Hung Jury SR4 capital cities always have great racial diversity. They recieve the most immigrants because there are opportunities there. I can guarantee you that the amount of immigrants have barely increased in Cornwall or the Highlands.
0 likesYet another banger ass video from emp 🔥
3 likesshout out to the jpegmafia sample
0 likesI think this video is really about corona.
0 likesMake frying dory
0 likesIs no one going to comment on the DTRH homage?
0 likesMore Emp?! Dont have to tell me twice
5 likes"monopoly" shows chess
0 likesMoral of the story: watch MegaMind
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Bro, MegaMind is literally the best children's movie ever, and had it not been for the minions franchise it would've been a hit.
8 likes@J.H aye
1 likeEmplemon: *Uploads video*
11 likesMe: Time to see what meme-y wisdom my friend is going to bestow in the downward spiral.
That Down The Rabbit Hole parody at the very start got me there, not gonna lie
3 likesenter the *wormhole*
0 likes"This companies care" What a corporate shill
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Companies only care about the bottom line lol
4 likes@Jaydoff Muneeeeee
3 likesi mean he said that they care about money and angry customers and they sure as shit care about many
1 likeDidn’t realize how well the doors fit with this topic, especially whiskey song, another great vid with some extraordinary music
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Agreed
0 likesThis reminds me of the TF2 parody of The Joker, where the spy is a food reviewer and the heavy is a gaming/react channel
3 likesdamn i didnt even see this
0 likesOhhh so THIS is why I keep getting only 5 different commercials on this platform
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brought to you by skillshare
1 likeI feel like Matt just wanted to destroy youtube.
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I find Anime Hot honorable cause ngl
0 likesDominic hello matt
1 likeIt's not about money... it's about sending a message
1 likeI hear that Jpegmafia song in the alt-right pipeline section, you think you're slick.
0 likesI like the part when he says WORMHOLE
55 likesNICE BDAY GIFT
0 likesJust to clarify, Kik isn't defunct.
0 likesSong at 47:15 ?
0 likesstarted watching the first minute, and I already like it
8 likesle reddit for le epic win xD
0 likesAs old as Kik is it still is used, it was bought by another company and is a advert shit show of an app
7 likesWhat about the BuzzFeed connection? I missed the possibility of him being an ambitious churnalist fabricating controversy for clicks.
5 likesMatt Watson? From SuperMega??
1 likeFendom Hypno
0 likesConspiracy theory here, reddit banned Chapotraphouse to cover the evidence
2 likesStill waiting on that YouTube Geographic on Mumkey Jones.
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Be more active in the EmpLemon discord server
4 likesWhat happened with Mumkey Jones?
0 likeskimcen He was basically wiped off the face of youtube after all of his channels got banned days apart from each other for “promoting” an incel, iirc. Nobody knows the real reasons why he was banned but he’s got some of his channel restored now but it’s just not the same.
2 likesMumkey also had a weird relationship with a furry pedo and some other weird shit with that. Seems like he’s back on the right track though.
0 likeswhat's the title of that Joker music?
0 likesMatt Watson from supermega?
1 likeall the adhd viewers after the 2 minute mark
0 likesI like how you sneakily used the main topic of the video and snuck in a anti-Biden news article and called it bad journalism, doubt you'd do the same if it were about Trump... Obviously not the reason for the video, but it was still a bastardly think to do.
1 likeIt was Yoshikage Kira
0 likesCarlos Maza = Matt Watson
1 like37:50 look im not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but youtube pushes as far left as it does right
1 likeThe fact that you attack the man and not the point proves fallacy. The very fallacy you cite as the title of this video. The fact is what he talks about is very real and reproducible. These communities still exist on youtube meaning your arguments here are invalid. If you worked for any other company and they facilitated something shady like human trafficking and got shut down for that, you would be out of the job, but your income is irrelevant to the problem being handled. The same applies to youtube and the content creators on it. If this caused the shut down of youtube, that doesn't matter because at the end of the day this content is on youtube and nearly nothing has been done since they announced they would do something about it three years ago. Not to mention the adpocolypse that came after this allowed youtube to implement policies that have nothing to do with this, meaning it's not this guy you should be pointing fingers at it's youtube. The fact that saying fuck can get you demonetized has nothing to do with these pedophilia rings and yet it's still a policy youtube implemented. The fact that demonetized videos will still be running ads and the problem shown in matts video, proves this was merely a ploy for youtube to line it's own pockets, and this right here is their scapegoat. The problem mentioned here hasn't been handled by youtube and yet youtube is still stealing from it's creators, that shows how irresponsible this platform is. You're simply playing into what they want. Try to show less fallacy next time in your arguments, his video isn't lying so why does it matter who he is outside of youtube? It doesn't. You can recreate these steps and you can find the same comments he found today. Youtube has the information and knowledge and code to prevent these videos from taking root in this platform and yet we still see no change.
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ur really mad lol
1 like8:45 are we talking about morgz? That man is out for money and makes kids stupid in the process
0 likesReally good video with some great information. One of the most perplexing part of it to me is that with pretty much no preexisting audience he was able to live stream and convince people to get on reddit to upvote him. It feels like it has to be more than just a failed youtuber.
1 likeYour videos are some of the most cleanly and fluidly edited videos I’ve seen on the platform! Very pleasing to watch, straightforward about what you want to show us, and very informative and entertaining. You deserve all the praise you get and more!
0 likesYour videos are amazing. Im blown away by the detail and perfection of tone in your documentary style videos. Bravo.
0 likesI never really understood him. To me he always seemed like a very passionate and well-meaning man trying to help, but his enthusiasm and direction were skewed as if he wouldn’t be aware of the effect on other content creators. This video really helped me see more of what’s going on and also the weird inconsistencies.
0 likesthis was super entertaining and brought more light to a controversy that I thought I knew. Overall very good video, but that's what you can expect when you're watching emplemon
1 likeThis is a very good video as usual, keep up the great work
1 likeexcellent, well made informative video emp. love youtube geographic. still love your memes as your ad segments.
0 likesAnother winner EmpLemon! Super interesting and captivating once again! Keep it up!
0 likesI was personally demonetized later that month as were many other creators.
1 likeThe situation indeed does line up with him being a corporate shill.
Why would they select someone who had previous history with an alias?
Simple, so that people wouldn't be able to pinpoint that he was a plant.
Matt Watson was like this guy's only alias, and he decided to burn it for corporate cash.
Subscribed for your ytps back in the day. Stayed for stuff like this. Keep it up man
0 likesGood lord, I thought the sponsor was a meme up until I checked the description!
1 likeOverall you did a phenomenal job on this one, I'd give it an 8/10 at least. Keep up the good work!
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best kind of advertising
0 likesMatt W, no matter what your motivation was, you’re crazy!
0 likesreally well edited, and informed video
0 likesit's so weird that you mention this as one of youtube's biggest controversies, and as an avid user, i'm wondering how i have never heard of it
0 likesEvery single one of your videos are so well made
0 likesSo... the fellow was a dbag, but this video shows me that the man had a pretty masterful understanding and knowledge of how to spin a lot of plates. Multiple site cultures and mechanics and aspects of media. My knee-jerk assumptions (because this is what we all do about people with opinions and positions opposed to our own) were that he was incompetent and lucky.
0 likesin the end, matt won... and saw no point in continuing a youtube channel (mattswhatitis)
0 likeshe was a failed drama youtuber,(his old channel) and gave up on youtube but wanted to hit the youtubers he resented hard in the wallet... and he knew just how to do it
I dunno about anybody else, but the second theory of what Matt’s motive was seemed pretty out there, other then that, solid video
0 likesLove the intro! You guy should do more stuff with DTRH! As for the subject at hand. I'm in the "Failed Youtuber" camp.
1 likeWatching this past midnight the occasional loud noise and demonetisation noises make this more terrifying than it should
0 likesemp is the only youtuber who i'll put on full screen and grab a snack when he uploads
1 likeIf the theory where he is left leaning but trying to own the righties is true, it always baffles me how people of a certain political leaning, despite clear biases to their leaning from most social media websites, think that these social media websites are pandering to the other side.
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It’s the ideological drug
0 likesYour team’s wins feel less good no matter how big they are
But the slightest hint of the other team winging is an apocalyptic event
Just wanted you to know, you make the best thumbnails in the entire platform!
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lol and now he made a vid on that exact subject.
0 likesThis is probably the best youtube series out there.
0 likesHim being active in ChapoTrapHouse is about as much evidence as you need to realize he isn't genuine in his appeal, the latter two theories seem the most likely.
1 likeGreat video, Emp!
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Wait whats the ChapoTrapHouse?
0 likes@Khabib Armageddon Wow that sounds crazy and, Thanks for the answer!
1 likeThe entire controversy smells like a well planned and executed troll
0 likesI will never cease to be amazed by the amount of opportunists in the world. And their ability to fool the masses time and time again
1 likeIf your theory about him being a corporate plant is correct. Then his controversial "old" content could have just been a way of distracting people from the truth. It adds some deniability.
1 likeI am less inclined to believe the theory of him being a corporate plant. Because they could have picked anyone but him. Teh thing that derailed him was his shady past. Companies are good about background checks they should have just went with someone else
0 likesinteresting to see the new calm emplemon talk about something he was so angry/passionate about in recent memory.
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what a wonderful character arc
0 likesGoddammit. I can't believe Matt Watson from their famous YT channel SUPERMEGA would do something like this.
1 likethats probably the best video ive ever watched on youtube, only competing with other emp videos
0 likesFanatsaic video dude! Really loved it!
0 likesFunny to think these amazing videos came from a guy that started with YTP shitpost edits, good work man.
0 likesIts simple. After this whole thing he learned engineering and changed his name to Tom Stanton.
1 like31:33 This guy was my childhood. Thanks for the memories.
0 likesI never heard of this controversy before I watched this video!
0 likesCurious about your opinions on Tom Scott's video on copyright law and Game Theory Matt Pat's video on his efforts to build a better youtube environment for creators to work in.
0 likesDespite his aggressive accusations at other youtubers for 'being greedy' and 'worrying about their money', he sure seems to be concerned with the ramifications these huge multi-media conglomerates might potentially face following the ads on their videos. HMMMMMM
0 likesBut Emp, if this guy never triggered the adpocalypse we'd never have Skillshare or Nord VPN or Raid Shadow Legends!
0 likesHe just strikes me as some asshole who got way more attention than he bargained for. Why did he delete his videos? Because he didn't want his weird past in the limelight, especially if it undermined what he was trying to accomplish. Why did he lie about incompetency when it came to disabling monetization? Because he wanted to make a bunch of money without hurting his good samaritan image. Why did he celebrate enthusiastically when advertisers pulled out, but not when YouTube responded? Because not only does a response from YouTube undermine his narrative that they don't care, but if they actually fix it, his time in the limelight is over. Why did he disappear? Because he didn't like having thousands of people digging into his past, uncovering embarrassing stuff he's done, or maybe things blew up way more than he expected and he didn't like having millions of eyes on him, so he pulled the plug. Why didn't media outlets try to interview him? Because he's an unknown, and they only really wanted to use him and his controversy to harm their competitor (YouTube). Or maybe they all reached out to him, but he declined, and they didn't want to undermine his credibility by saying he was refusing interviews. Why didn't he weigh in on the SOPA stuff? He dropped off of the face of the planet for a reason. If he stopped wanting the attention then, why would he now? Meanwhile, advertisers simply saw an opportunity to get a better deal, and they took it.
2 likesHe could be a corporate shill or whatever, but everything makes sense if you assume everyone was a rational actor, and that he was just some asshole who hated pedophiles and/or wanted attention, but couldn't handle it. Believe what you want, but I'll take Occam's razor.
I'm torn, on one hand the corporate plant makes such a good story. It kind of sounds like the Manchurian candidate of youtube, if not as clean and thrilling of a story. On the other hand history tells us that says sometimes you just need to be the right man at the right place. Of course there is the possibility of a little of column A and a little of column B. Failed youtuber becomes a plant for some advertiser and it blows up bigger then he imagined, and just panicked a disappeared before he blew his cover? Who knows, what we can learn is that youtube is once again horribly run with little transparency.
0 likesCompletely irrelevant to the video itself, but nice integration of "Want You Gone" from Portal.
0 likesThis aside, this video is amazing, thanks for helping spread the truth.
This video is so good. Also shout out to the JPEGMAFIA and Boards of Canada plugs.
0 likesI love how the border of the thumbnail correctly matches the color of the red time bar so I can't see how much progress I made on watching this video
0 likesHe clearly started all that bs to get attention but at the same time he actively worked against the youtubers he desperately wanted to be like. I don't understand the dude at all.
0 likesMan i knew that i had heard the final song but an accordian cover of whiskey bar is really creative. I think i would like emp lemon irl
0 likesGreat content.
0 likes"To stab at the heart of youtube you must first drive the blade through thousands of innocent channels"
0 likesYoutube today: Why wait?
I love it when you use that old adult swim bumper music, man.
1 likeMy man wore blue and green and was still able to greenscreen himself into his video in HD.
0 likesI can't believe you used the Hotel Giant 2 soundtrack on your video. That's obscure, and awesome :)
0 likesMatt Watson is just like Bill Nye the Science Guy, they both pretend they have any idea what they're talking about
0 likesHe didn't care about the children. He cared about clout.
0 likesAs opposed to seeking out and destroying those sub-humans himself, he decided to cause a fucking ad-pocalypse by reporting these to the fucking companies.
I expected piccolo antenna under that doctor's hat. i guess i'm missing my dose today.
1 likeFrom YouTube Pooper, to video essayist, to freelance investigative journalist
0 likeswut
“If I can’t have clout, nobody will!”
25 likesthis guy is weird. pretty epic.
0 likesBedhead Bernie channel has a lot of its videos gone I miss them
0 likesThe music choices are so fucking good.
0 likesAdult Swims theme?
Jpegmafia?
My DUDE
i consciously avoid child, loli, shota, cub and ephebeo-related content online so my fbi agent doesn't think i'm developing pedophilia.. not that i ever could, orientation is immutable and my agent already knows all too well what my fetish is <3
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0 likes4:10 Holy crud, Leafy made a video discussing about child exploitation. That I and his other viewers didn't know about that. Likely the algorithm buried this video even further than his usual videos because of this heavy topic.
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multilad816 watch emp’s video on leafy. It may explain why his video was completely buried.
0 likes@Dr. Oofers I already did watched it almost around the time when this video was uploaded. I admit, I didn't think Leafy was the type to talk about serious topics like that
0 likesI doubt you'll see this comment but the song credits you have for Miami are wrong. It's Tristan Leonidas who did Miami. Discarded is not a name he goes by anymore and you won't be able to find much of his stuff under that name.
0 likesWhen you disguise a corporate shill move as a public good. It's not the first time and it won't be the last.
0 likesgreat analysis
0 likesI love the down the rabbit hole parody opening
0 likesBro I had no idea any of this was happening
0 likesIf they can’t use the monetization but truly care about there arguments then they will sacrifice anything for it and can use other sources of income. His campaign only hurt small creators as usual, because nuking everyone saves everyone right?
0 likesI thought I forgot to turn off my Spotify when Jpeg Mafia came on ❤
2 likesfirst half: geniunely good response to the movement, and how financially we have no power over youtube
2 likessecond half: you watch pewdiepie and you become a nazi. I'm sorry, it's just how the wormhole works.
I was hoping for some big Kaiser Soze reveal where you were Matt the whole time... maybe a Kevin Spacey reference is not right for this co controversy
0 likesI NEVER,EVER trust people who are in love with "protect the kids". I'm not saying there isn't genuine ppl, but when they act all mad and start describing how they would torture rapist or nuke an entire site, it's RED FLAG.
0 likes6:01 he can’t keep getting away with this!
1 likei always wondered why the Simpsons were green then i remember that doing that voids copyright
2 likesThere's not a lot of distinction between the woke left and corporate shills nowadays tbh
0 likesThat's not to denigrate all leftists. There are exceptions of course.
Still waiting for ‘There will Never Ever be a Show like South Park’
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How's your archiving going along?
1 likeAhuman fine, I have most seasons. Can you see two full episodes on my channel by chance?
2 likes@Rodney, Tokoro Tennosuke Lover No. 1! Nah, I can't
1 likeAhuman rip
1 likeDid you get downtherabbitholes permission to use that intro? I just feel its waaaay to similar. Would like to be of sound mind that he is okay with it.
0 likesi missed this series
0 likesYoutube bends the knee for the media, than the media attacks youtube to get a reaction for free clicks.
0 likesThe 8-Bit Garry Glitter music kills it 🤣
0 likesIn actuality, Matt Watson is MundaneMatt who managed to lose some weight and dyed his hair
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That guy is pretty lame, Rich of reviewtechusa keeps an intro about him.
0 likesWow this is a great video
0 likesi liked the video before i started watching bro, because i love you.
0 likesAlso damn was that an emp race reveal?
0 likeslmao the only thing i ever used kik for was to text my drug dealers
0 likesshould be on a YouTube version of r/thesefuckingaccounts
0 likesWow so I'm not the only one deep down in the wasp removal rabbit hole?
0 likes49:16 maybe is because he was hired in a low point, probably with little to no money. And he accepted a deal to do that job
0 likesThat ad is the closest thing to a fave reveal
0 likesSo this all shabang boomed whem some mods on reddit were asleep...
0 likesYeah, that's the only time when "mods are sleeping, upvote this" mantra worked
make THIS go viral
0 likesUhmm, maybe "Matt", was everythingy all along. A plant, a failed, youtuber, a swj, a resentful guy. etc etc. Like all of those in universities and entretainment, like marvel comics and their "inexistent" agenda..
0 likesDoes anyone know the song that begins playing at 1:49? The list in the description doesn't list it I think and I can't find it.
0 likesI love how the guy deep diving in the child porm is disgusted
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Apollo Nein Because he keeps going despite being disgusted?
0 likes''wasp removal videos''
0 likesi fell called out
21:02 from what I can tell the Reddit Hive mind hates tiktok
2 likes31:33
0 likesDid not expect to see Mike Mozart in this video, thanks for the 'stolgia trip
I actually look badass bald, and lame with hair.
0 likesEmerican you made it to EmpLemon.
0 likesI know EmpLemon is pretty right wing so I can kind of understand the prolonged focus on the leftist part, but still it seemed a bit dubious itself especially since the conclusion is that it probably wasn't the true motive anyway.
1 likeMake video on YouTube's most creepiest personality-Alex warren
1 like35:28 holy shit I know that song, good taste dude
0 likesI think this guy is an industry plant and a disillusioned YouTuber.
0 likesReally appreciate that your buddy mentionned Three Arrows, he's probably one of the best, if not the best politcal youtuber I know of. He does far more research than any other political youtuber i've ever seen, wether they're from the right or left.
1 likeGreat video, Portal music made it better.
0 likesI honestly had No idea u were back on youtube!
0 likesman, the gt4 music at the end is just nostalgic.
0 likesI still have no idea why I can’t use miniplayer on videos rated for kids
0 likeshe looks like if War owl had too many drinks
1 likeAt this point any thing that hurts youtube is good
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Content creators should start varying the places where they put polished content like this so that other sites would be viable.
0 likesIt's as if the creator is a fan of mde and Sam hyde. He gave many mde Easter eggs
0 likesguy referenced down the rabbit hole in the beginning, real mvp right here
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They know each other I think
0 likesMatt has soulless eyes. Don't you think he is.......
0 likesWeird that the algorithm isn't pushing this
5 likesOh my god can this guy get a pi filter holy shit you can see it in his video
0 likesYouTube removed every video I've tried to watch from you in my feeds subscription and home feed I am just now only seeing this video 3 days later after you upload it I hate YouTube
0 likes1:48 I can't find this song in the credits :( can anyone tell me where it is?
2 likesGuess I go bald because Keeps isn't shipping to Germany
0 likesgarry glitters in a video about child exploitation... nice
0 likesWas that a Fredrik Knudsen reference?
0 likesRed Simpson’s is scariest simpsons.
0 likesNice Fredrik Knudsen reference.
0 likesReddit did their thing
0 likesChris Stuckmann really let himself go.
0 likesThis is concerning, but I still have a few plans.... maybe.
0 likesAmerica's second guilded age
0 likesI would like to know why he was floating around little kid vids to notice what's going on in the comments?
0 likesSoo it was companies wanting to make more money.....
0 likesWho would win:
0 likesMaaM WattaW or
tttt nosson
TL;DW - Mattiswhatitis, the controversial beginner, is a scumbag who potentially exploited a pressing issue for karma and views. If so, fuck people like this, who'd rather exploit an ongoing issue for their own personal gain. The conclusion is that Matt Watson is an alias of an unknown content creator, who, though not confirmed what his full intentions were, has fallen off the face of the earth. One thing Matt exposed is YouTube's inability to handle a massive and damaging controversy across the web with effective communication. So, if there is anything to thank Matt for, it would be that. Otherwise, no one knows who or what Mattiswhatitis is really all about.
1 likeInsightful stuff Emperor....thanks! (Miss your YTP days too :D)
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Hey Matt.
1 likeWhy is EmpLemon Green? More like EmpLime?
0 likes23:01 Garbodors music
1 likeMike motzart ain’t heard that name in a long time
0 likes8:58 oh you want to have a stable income? Then you don’t care about child predators!
1 likeThe black and white picture with Matt's face looks EXACTLY like Arin hanson
0 likesWoah, woah, let me get this straight, did EmpLemon bring a leftist who criticizes Pewdiepie to narrate portion of this video? Did I get this right?
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Emplemon is politically neutral. I think.
2 likes@Phoebe Aurum Yeah, but still a bit silly to get a guy like that on the video, especially when they're into the whole alternative influence network shit
3 likes@Munat why
0 likes@Munat Thats what surprised me!! He brought in someone who is openly criticizing Pewdiepie! I never thought I would see the day!
1 likealso kik is still up i do pedo hunting on it still but now there are ads at the top kik is still very active and A BIG THREAT to kids
0 likesdamn peggy, nice instrumental
1 likeholy matt watson from supermega
0 likesOops. Thought this was something else.
0 likesKik is defunct?
0 likesDoesn’t seem like it.
Why is the water red?
0 likes11:16 What game is this?
0 likesSeemed like he was salty about not getting any ad revenue from youtube
3 likesall of this because a breadtuber could not remove a couple of rigth-wing videos
6 likesSooo, you're telling me that the lesbian that made the infamous MLG actually made YouTube go forward rather than this lumps of flesh? Well...
30 likesSO GUYS WE DID IT
I didn't trust the guy from the minute how he was using the Blue Yeti wrong. It's not meant to be pointed directly at your mouth, but put upwards.
4 likesOperation Chanology was my first, but
4 likesI was too young to go to Columbus, OH Org protests.
I just wish I had recorded my prank calls.
I keep seeing ads for Tik Tok clones on phone games where underage girls perform lude dances with obvious predatory implications (comments would show up in the video asking her age and shit). But nope, YouTube bad, right guys?
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Also, these ads took the place of popular name brands after they started retracting from the site. So...
0 likesI didn’t know you liked down the rabbit holes intro so much you ripped it completely off
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Theres 0% chance he didnt ask him on Twitter first!
0 likesyeah but where is frying nemo though honestly bro come ON
0 likesYou watch wasp removal videos too????
0 likesMamamax and EmpLemon, uploading a video on a similar topic at almost the same time?
16 likest h i s m u s t b e a c o n s p i r a c y
>outrage mob
0 likesWhat made you shill?
38:42 You know you're bad when an UwU face calls you disgusting
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Boogali Boogala agreed
0 likesMatt Watson? FROM SUPERMEGA?
0 likes50:08 that's one weird political compass
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Wow, it actually kind of works...
11 likesWhat?
0 likesBroGoblinGamer this scares me
1 likeChe being Lib Left?
2 likesbased based based based based
"if I can't be a famous successful YouTuber... No one can"
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"and when everyone is unsuccessful...no one will be"
8 likes>now defunct Kik
0 likesNah bro she's still up
Do you know who Bruno Powroznik is?
1 likeThe most mindblowing part about the video to me is hearing JPEGMAFIA in the background
4 likesMatt Watson? FROM SUPERMEGA????
0 likesIS THAT PEGGY IN THE INTERLUDE :)
1 like"child predation is a universaly scorned activity"
42 likeslaughs in islam
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Laughs in catholic priest
18 likeslaughs in literally every belief system before 1550
8 likesRoars in Hebrew
1 likeChucked in “suicide” mr Weinstein has an escape plan cmon you know it too
1 likeThe ending does bring about a very valid question however, WHOMSTVE tf speaks on behalf of Youtube? Its almost a literal evolving library with no upkeeep or librarian. And yet, its being run by someone who prbably doesnt have any idea how severe that is. Fucking boomer i swear
8 likesIn other words, Susan is incompetent.
3 likesTL;DW
15 likesContext:
Matt Watson (MattsWhatItIs) made a video about how YouTube's algorithm attracts child predators to content of children: the so-called "wormhole".
But due to weird behaviour from Matt, some of the YouTube community don't believe Matt's true intention is just to get rid of child predators.
Theories TL;DW:
Disgruntled YouTuber Goes Rogue (33:18):
Matt is angry at YouTube and all its content producers.
Matt wants to be famous, but his attempts to do so fail.
His campaign to get advertisers to pull their ads because of pedos on the platform was one such attempt, and it succeeded.
(This theory has many inconsistencies)
The Bernie Pipeline (36:59):
Matt is angry about right-wing content on YouTube and the "pipeline" making the YouTube algorithm endorse right-wing content.
Matt wanted to attack right-wing and anti-SJW YouTubers by starting an adpocalypse.
Matt Watson is an Industry Plant (42:25):
Matt is secretly someone seeking to get advertisers their money back through economics and shit (watch at the timestamp, I can't explain it well).
The adpocalypse he would cause would be beneficial to advertisers.
(Please watch the whole video. I oversimplified many things.)
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who wouldnt watch a emp video 1h long
7 likes@Lanler Intelectuals.
0 likesHonestly, wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't a mix of "screw 'bigots'" and being a corporate shill. Likely he's not too much into the Breadtube rabbithole, hence why he never really brought up class, but still holds sympathies for these sorts of people.
0 likesHe likely made a good chunk of change in exchange for disappearing.
37:30 this whole article about YouTube's right wing rabbit whole was debunked since 2018: https://youtu.be/S4hq5uVsb5k
0 likesIn summary, if we have to make any claim about this theory, the majority of recommendations and traffic on the website is to the broad left side , not the right side. This could be just another plot from the past, for companies to gain another leverage over Youtube in negotiations, according to Emp's theory.
He's a ginger, that's the reason.
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Red Hairing
11 likesGingers were once a prideful people.
0 likesDang Matt Watson from supermega😳😳😳
0 likesDid I see a reference to the famous Imam Sa'm Al'hyed?
0 likes38:38 can i just point out that the reply under his was someone calling him disgusting?
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No, you are not allowed to. Do it anyway.
1 like15:00 “Some of you may die, but that is a risk I am willing to take.” - Lord Farquad
6 likes18:49 Mods are Asleep, Post baseless claims
35 likes37:30 I love jpeg
0 likesEmplemon defending youtube and the algorithm? Not criticizing but I never thought I'd see the day.
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YouTube is so big that unless it's specifically set/programmed to look out for something (Like "Preventing another Trump situation") It's algorithm has to be unbiased. Sure it's set to seek and destroy wrongthink but anything else can slide on by (Again Monkey Abuse community) YouTube can't think of everything/every permutation there's a point where even they get surprised
0 likesHe sounds like the King of Hate, DPS himself.
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Apparently
0 likesI thought the keeps sponsoring was a joke
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It is a joke. Just not an intentional one.
4 likes"Much of youtube's aimlessness could be attributed to their weak leadership"
23 likesWeak men create hard times...
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I don't mean to be sexist but I'm pretty sure we have a woman in charge. I only put that in there to get that other guy to get off my back.
0 likes@LJK401 G. Michael Hopf, critically acclaimed author of the post apocalyptic genre, is a racist fascist?
0 likesEmplemon looks like a miniature Reggie Fils-Aime
16 likesEvery shred of information about this Matt guy and his biases points to him (at the very least) being close friends with a lot of people in the leftist news media bubble - likely in inner city New York/Portland/Seattle/Los Angeles. I can definitely see someone in such circles going along with a plan like this in return for a big payout from above.
4 likesL E A F Y I S B A C K
0 likesoh no
23:01 my goodness who taught him to speak into a blue yeti?
12 likesnice doors music you got there
0 likes37:02 1539 N Calvert! I listened to it today.
0 likesso does YouTube puts ads on demonetized videos, they say that they demonetized them because they are not "ad friendly" but if they put ads on them YouTube makes money and the people that make the vids dont. has this just turned into a loophole for youtube to get the full 100 percent leaving the creator with nothing i dont know if im right about this but i feel like i might be on to something.
12 likesThis would have been way more interesting at half the length.
0 likesSomeordinarygamers did it first
1 likeGreen Simpsons? Outdated.
11 likesNow RED Simpsons. THAT'S the future man.
I know they paid you money, but do you think your audience needs hairloss products?
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asp who knows.
5 likesWell, I’d imagine that with the current state of society being what it is, stress may cause premature hair loss. That said, who knows what age his primary audience is. Maybe it’s 55+ for some reason?
7 likesI'm balding at 19 rip
10 likesIt's way funnier right now since every hair salon and barber shop is closed, so people might actually want to lose their hair.
0 likesSomeone might
0 likesThat's the point, right?
I can't believe that Matt Watson from SuperMega would do something like that
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Can you believe this betrayal of his free speech views and comedy, but now he's just a government plant.
0 likesWhat does myopic mean?
0 likesThe beginning section with "Down The Spiral" looks exactly like the show "Down The Rabbit Hole" by Fredrik Knudsen . Complete with the same music and same font.
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Its a sight gag at fred's series, dw haha
6 likesWOAH! I did not notice that! WOW!
0 likesI just thought it was neat
0 likesI think the music is 'endless staircase' from super mario 64, played backwards.
1 likethat's the joke
1 likeHaha! i have been doing a ad boycott b have ad block
0 likes2:33 **FEMDOM HYPNO**
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No one cares
0 likes30:27 ok thanks Spit Mcflicks
0 likestasteful mde soundtrack at 13min
0 likesI like the OG adult swim music.
1 likeEMP LEMON
0 likesGood vidoe mate, so when is frying dorry come?
0 likesSent my gf some of your videos and she loves/appreciates the work and effort put into them. Keep it up, what you do is amazing and entertaining as f**k.
1 likeI love your YouTube videos I can tell you spend a lot of time on them keep up the good work...
1 likeDude I love Emp videos, they’re some of the most nuanced opinions on any subject. Big fan
0 likesEmpLemon continues to be one of my favorite content creators, quality content right here
0 likesYoutube Geographic is seriously the best series I've ever watched in or outside of Youtube. I love your editing so much and I can't click quick enough when I see your videos. Keep up the good job man, I love it!
0 likesI remember this happening and wondering so many questions that he just wouldn’t answer. Great video as always
0 likesHuh, I had absolutely no idea this had happened until now. Great video as always, Emp!
0 likesKeep up the great work, Emp!
0 likesSuch an incredible and thorough look at a topic that is important but rarely discussed. As always, fantastic, Emp.
0 likesHoly shit this was a good movie. The 4 personas of Matt and capping it all off with greater commentary about how Youtube is fucking everything up for itself and its creators, I mean Bravo
1 likeGreat video Emp, you have a fantastic music taste as well.
0 likesit's sad how we really can't do a lot against these companies as a creator....
0 likesyour videos are always such a treat
0 likesGod damn do I love it every time you upload. Outstanding video as always man
0 likesI actually watched matt's channel before this whole ordeal and it was quite the mess i must say so, his videos were ok
0 likesHe doesn't need to have been a plant the entire time. It's not impossible for him to have just met some suit a con and arranged for massive pay-off to do the thing.
1 likeAlso, I'm not so sure about your logic of his success being evidence of duplicity. It's entirely possible that he got more traction than other youtubers BECAUSE he targeted advertisers. Yes that's a bad strategy that harms creators of all stripes more than it does YT itself, but it is effective at getting the attention of other media (which is also funded by advertisers). Those traditional media outlets have incentive to hype the youtube boycott because it gives them leverage over those same advertisers, without them needing to be directly in on some grander plot.
I appreciate the candid commentary by you
1 likereally nice video, loved it!
0 likesAlways knew something was fishy about him. I thought maybe ignoring him was the best option, but as usual it would have been better to destroy him.
0 likesI’m about 2/3rds in the video, but I feel like this guy was working for YouTube to screw small creators by giving them an excuse to cut paying them. It makes a ton of unfortunate sense to me.
0 likesI watched it all but I was really happy to hear Let There Be Light - Justice talking about his alternative motive.
0 likes49:39 Just want to point out that it took almost 100 years before the public found out about the Lusitania, so I can easily believe a large group of people can keep quiet about this.
0 likes35:12 and 41:16 I theorized that Matt's vendetta is not out jealousy, it's that he got sick and disillusioned of the state and culture of Youtube along with its users then thought "screw everyone on this site! I'm gonna ruin everyone's parties. from the CEO to the unregistered visitors"
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I think it was jealousy based on how he acted
0 likesplease please try to upload more frequently I love this content
0 likesThe second theory makes the most sense. He knew all the lingo right wingers use, especially “Muh [insert here]”, frequents a subreddit which has endorsed harming YouTube for giving right wingers a voice, and went after specific youtubers that are seen as “problematic” in his live-streams.
0 likesIn my opinion, Internet Responsibility should have the same value as Driving, which cannot just be given around to people and needs at least adequate knowledge to be consented to. Adults shouldn't just hand kids this responsibility when they're not fully aware of what they're getting themselves into.
0 likesAlso, It annoys me how most parents don't know YouTube kids exist and instead let them use the actual app/site. And now we gotta adjust "for the kids" in a site which is not usually "for the kids".
The only way I can describe EmpLemon's voice is that he sounds like he definitely mains scout in TF2
0 likesTotally off topic from the main discussion here: Still laughing my ass off from the Brian Griffin DORIYAH moment there.
2 likesAnother fantastic analysis of something a year out of date. Unsubscribe💕
0 likesI don't care how evil and unlikable he was. How he did it and the fact that it worked and that he probably made a lot of money doing it is pretty cool. It's like a bank robbery movie: The protagonist is a piece of crap but it's still cool
1 likeMy memory may be failing me, and this is a great video, but isn’t the Youtube Geographic supposed to be a factual retelling rather than an argumentative? Not that big of a deal, but I’d like some yt history lessons some time.
0 likes"I am not the villain in this story. I do, what I do, because there is no choice."
1 likematt Watson YOUVE BECOME THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO DESTROY
2 likesYou have a great taste in music, my friend.
0 likesemp, maybe when you hit 1mil, you could do a face reveal? just suggesting
0 likesalso nice video, you never fail to satisfy
Good doc. Thank you.
0 likesIf he was a poltergeist his presence would be felt more not less... but yeah I get your point
0 likesprobably one of the best videos on youtube to exist
0 likesI fear that EmpLemon got on some list somewhere by making this video.
1 likeI do agree with you message, but this is more of a persuasive/argument than a “YouTube geographic”. Dont get me wrong, i agree
0 likesI love the Garbodors music in the background during some parts of the video. Really neat.
0 likesI feel like i've seen this video recommended to me before like a month ago+ but I realize that nope, i just confused it for another one of EmpLemon's amazing videos!
0 likes19:35 other big yters vids who talked about topic yee
And yet another amazing fucking video, cant wait to see more content!
0 likesGreat video man 🙏🏿
0 likesEmp’s background music is always top notch
0 likesThis is a masterpiece of a video
0 likesSo it was all a complot made by the big companies to hurt youtubers because this has become a huge source of free content for the general audience ?
1 likeI’ve never even heard of this guy and I really doubt this controversy surrounding Matt (not pedos on youtube in general) is comparable to the logan paul suicide forest stuff
0 likeswasp removal videos are THE SHIT.
2 likesHaving seen some real proper dark shit using tor i can kind of see where he was coming from, theirs forum's for pedo's that specifically hunt down the kind of videos he was talking about and pack them together into categorical "sets" of a dozen or so similar videos for distribution. Haven spoken with a number of these people they just seem deranged, they make it out like finding these videos is a full time job for them and often bragged about finding specific "rare" videos.
0 likesIts pretty sick and has apparently been going on for long before any of the controversy's and is probably still going on. I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole again to find out.
NErc City brought me here! What a great channel!!
0 likesThis series could honestly get a netflix deal
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Elune It’d be neutered to the point of losing what makes it unique. I mean this episode did deal with the ‘corporate’ side of things.
0 likesthis is a very bold accusation, but im just some random guy on youtube comments so i will say it:
0 likesi feel like this guy wanted a reason to go down that wormhole.
basically youtube sold someone a plot of land and the users built a crack factory on it.
2 likesI clicked on this video knowing full well what it was
0 likesBut when the "down the rabbit hole" ambiance played my mind went "Oh boy cant wait for this 'Down the Rabbit Hole' video"
Using The Doors' Alabama Song for the credits
1 likeAbsolute fucking genius {look up the lyrics if you dont get it}
how have I not heard about this until now? when did this happen?
0 likesWhy worry about the corona when emp lemon releases another hour of god-tier documentary video essays
0 likesThis is better journalism than most actual journalism nowadays.
1 likeI tought this was a YouTube Red Series
1 likeSoldier : Dear God
Spy: There´s More
Me: No..
When you search Wikipedia for the word "pariah"... there's no written definition, just a picture of Matt Whatitis.
0 likes43:10 There aint no Atlas kid. Never was.
0 likesMaybe Matt was a combination of the theories, burnt out youtuber who became a shill who discuised himaelf as a proletaret hero.
I think the most obvious answer is the most likely. He had an emotional reaction to finding what he thought to be a pedophile ring, which led to him trying to stop it in an unproductive and poorly thought-out way while also wanting to feel like a part of a greater movement. The Youtube platform just happened to be the scapegoat to direct his rage at since he couldn't figure out how to combat individual users (or overlooked that as a viable option). This developed into an unhealthy obsession with his goal and he became shortsighted and stubborn since he was already in too deep on his crusade. Bascicaly just emotion coupled with ignorance.
3 likesEmpLemon needs an office at YouTube HQ.
0 likesHaha omg you included the MDE <OMITTED> track, awesome!
0 likesI'm not squeamish and pretty desensitized to most things at this point, but the baby monkey thing genuinely disturbed me.
1 likeNo constructive criticism, but I'm leaving a comment anyway for the algorithm. Great as always!
0 likesamazing video.
1 likeOMG I can’t believe THE Matt Watson from SuperMega did all this
0 likesIdk about this dude and his motivations but YouTube rabbit holes are definitely real. You can find actual hardcore pornography that has remained uploaded for months if you happen to slip into the right lanes in the algorithm. They are just as easy to slip out of so copy the links as soon as you see them for proof if you do happen to come across one. They DO NOT stay in your watched history. Having seen this video I wish I did that for the case I found or at the very least got a screenshot.
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The name of the video was “orang” and it showed up in the search results after watching a long string of esoteric “meme man” style videos. It was listed as having been uploaded for 3 months at the time I spotted it and only stayed accessible for one search. Honestly it’s the perfect system for smuggling content as it’s perfectly plausibly deniable. Only a few people are ever exposed to them at any one time and YouTube has their asses legally covered.
0 likesHe's correct that Youtube should do more, though. Youtube/Google are the owners and creators of some of the most advanced algorithms and machine learning programs on the internet. Youtube will detect if anything you post belongs to Viacom and slam you almost immediately, assuming it didn't detect the precious copy right infringement the moment you hit upload. If your neighbor is playing a song owned by some big record lable and the audio frequency is captured by your speakers at such a low level that only a dog could hear it, you're screwed: Youtube knows what you've done. Chatroulette created a program that could identify penises so that you weren't getting a fat neckbeard jacking it every time you tried to talk with someone, but Google can't spend two seconds making a program that would block all of these videos kids upload of themselves half naked during a slumber party? The problem has been known about since 2009 when /b/ figured out you could generate Cheese Pizza by simply filtering Youtube search results by most recently uploaded and, bam, a bunch of 8 year olds showing themselves off "playing dressup". I think they genuinely just don't care and are more concerned with banning the ever increasing genre of Orwellian crime-think commonly labeled in academia as racism and sexism than banning this soft-core pornography.
0 likesAlso, pro-tip to parents: Teach you kid not to upload their face, name, or address to ANYTHING on the internet. Not to Facebook, not to Youtube, not to the nice man who wants to give you candy, none of it. Christ, we knew this in the 90's, the hell is wrong with people today?
wait a second, that opening seems familliar
0 likesYouTube is one hell of a history book.
0 likesDamn if they're paying people to be plants, I could use a phat check right about now.
0 likesthe inside job/agent theory exploited my brain.
0 likesjust like what happens to leafy. he didnt directly told his fans give death threats to some content creator but he must take responsibility
0 likes>Kik is still up
1 likeProves he does he research, especially when he always slams iF, while never actually using it
I've literally never heard of this.
0 likesI think I have my own thoery who Matt is and that he is trying to stop freelacers thriveing on the platform. There’s a workers union that exist in calafronia that hates freelacers and attempts to unionized many freelacers and company’s as possible “remember this is calafronia were google is located” in fact this union is so powerful it lobbied a Person into the calfronia state government to make freelancers according in her own words “employees because being a freelancer is not a real job” I think this guy ether was with this workers union or more likely was not with them but had a similar agenda to them and when it was clear his plan wasn’t working he left the internet all together. Tho that is just my theory. In other words he’s hates freelacers
0 likes23:45: A slight typo in the "Could do" section. Nitpicky, I know, but double, maybe triple checking text helps.
0 likesi came when i heard gyroscope from boards. i love your music sense so much. esprit too, my god.
0 likesThis is unrelated, but if I have to hear him say “wormhole” I’m going to dropkick myself out of a window.
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Joshua Hale Who Matt or Emp?
0 likesAlso, I’m guessing you did drop kick yourself since you haven’t updated anything.
"Matt Watson" scared me hard cuz I thought you were talking about SuperMega
0 likesThis video reminded me about the earn it bill trying to pass in Congress
1 likeHe was a plant for the third party ad safety agency.
0 likesI loved how you used Pink Floyd clips
0 likesFrom Youtube Pooper to Youtube Documentarian.
0 likesCompany: Money
1 likeYouTube: More money for me
Company: No
YouTube: Okay okay less money
11:35: check the like-dislike ratio, I am no youtuber, but when you do a followup video, and you have that happening after 3M+ views initially, seems kinda sketchy...
0 likesMy only issue w this is if he knew advertisers were gonna pull ads why was he so elated when they did?
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The theory states that he was hired by these companies to make a big scene so they had an excuse to pull ads. So if he was unsuccessful in drawing this attention they probably wouldn’t pay him.
1 like23:30
1 likeThis is basically the same as witnessing a murder and not reporting it for fear of beeing convinced?
Matt Watson of superme- oh..
0 likesNevermind.
Some people just want to sit back and watch the world burn
0 likesGreat Video
0 likesLmao did he just... did he misspell grammarly? As in, the grammar and spell checking tool?
0 likesWait was that guy actually emplemon on the commercial?
0 likesim new here, was the opening supposed to be reminiscent of the "down the rabbit hole" series or am i fucking stupid?
0 likesDork trolled everyone.
2 likesAnxietyWar is so good
1 likeoh this series still exists?
0 likesAyy bruh someone gotta let matt know about the kiddy prawn discords and 4chan lmao
0 likesWhat happens in spring should stay in spring
0 likesIt is YouTube’s fault
0 likesI didnt understand. But it was beacause i wasnt paying enough attention. Im sure the video is amazing tho. Very high iq.
1 likenice music all over this video. heard that Boards of Canada coming on and chubbed up a lil bit.
0 likesHoly shit the outro music slaps.
0 likesLet's be real, this dude was just salty and bitter about not being able to make money off of youtube and not becoming the next big YouTuber, so he ruined it for everyone else. Pretty glaringly obvious!
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Fancy seeing you here. Also, I agree. Dude’s scam worked.
0 likesThis is like i fucking sherlock episode. I dont understand but i like it a lot.
1 like"won't somebody think of the leftytubers?"
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What about lefty YouTube?
1 like@Megakillerx Lol so much for the tolerant right
2 likes@Megakillerx Lol you like TJ Kirk videos
0 likes@LJK401 >Right
13 likes>When "Liberals Get the bullet too" is an Antifa (Lefty) expression
Ah yes from the "Stalin was right wing" school of never admitting fault
@CyberNinjaZero Stalin WAS right-wing, he believed in nationalism, hierarchy, racial dominance, and capitalism
3 likes@CyberNinjaZero You probably think fascism is left-wing when even Wikipedia says it's right-wing and they also call Stalin a dictator
1 likeLJK401 fascism is not the same as dictatorship. You can be a right wing dictator or a left wing dictator. Fascist dictators are only right though. Also show me where Stalin supported Capitalism
11 likes@JayBe Look up him and Lenin's thoughts on capitalism and a vanguard party
0 likes@JayBe Totalitarianism is a right-wing ideology, it literally revolves around conserving the social order
0 likesLJK401 authoritarianism is what I mean by dictatorship. Stalin was authoritarian, Hitler was Authoritarian, but Stalin was a socialist while Hitler was a capitalist. See how that works? If you take just a basic look at a political compass, I think you’ll notice that the LEFT side of the compass is socialism while the RIGHT side is capitalism, yet things can be authoritarian or anarchist for EITHER side. These concepts are UP and DOWN, they aren’t sided. Now, if you’re talking about the American political parties, I’ll have you know that Democrats are more socialist and are also more authoritarian (raising taxes) than republicans who are more capitalist and anti authoritarian (less taxes)
5 likes@JayBe How old are you kid?
0 likesLJK401 can you kindly cite any source that proves Stalin was a capitalist because I just read through Stalin’s Wikipedia page and he seemed pretty anti-capitalist to me. Burden of proof falls on you because I guarantee you that most people feel he’s a socialist. Also, while I understand that the political compass is flawed, the whole concept of left vs right derived from it. If you don’t want to talk about directional politics then let’s not. Just talk about American political parties and ideologies in a vacuum. I’m 18 but I don’t think that’s really reason to write off this argument.
6 likes@JayBe Look up state capitalism. Why would you get it solely from Wikipedia?
1 likeJayBe fascism isn’t only right, it’s quite Center economically. Some on the left, some on the right. I would put classic fascism in totalitarian Center
5 likes@plasmicats it isn't only right economically, but it absolutely is culturally
1 likeSaxtonFailinator Uh yeah I just said
0 likesight boys it's time to laugh at matt
0 likesReminds me of down the rabbit hole lol
0 likesSuch is life of a Reddit Normalman. Things gotta crash for a moral crusade
0 likesSo, basically, Matthew 'Jarbo Junior' Ward.
0 likesThat patreon member at the end
0 likes31:26 I’m looking at you, Saitama.
0 likesI forgot about Anxiety War
0 likesso he is just a sleeper agent
1 likeWas this intro intending to blatantly rip off Fredrik Knudsen’s Down the Rabbit Hole?
0 likesNext YT Geographic episode: FPS Russia.
1 likeIt's weird I used to watch his nofap videos before all this started
0 likesTo me, it's all three, a failed leftist Youtuber hired as an industry plant
18 likesWait the keeps ad was for real?
0 likesI thought one of the theories would have been that he was actually a pedophile. Smh
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He sucks but accusing him of the most hated type of 'people' can really be terrible. No need to accuse him of being a pedo.
0 likesWhat's the song at 47:22 also great video
0 likesCommon communist philosophy is that cooperations (Or the bourgeoisie for those literate folks) only can be disheartened by the removal of their economic support, this is mostly prevalent in communist spaces, but it's a general philosophy to all leftists. When people encourage advertisers to pull from Fox News for example, the intention is that this is the only way to hurt the cooperation (Whether it works or not is debatable). The problem comes with YouTube and other video platforms, who owns that content? Strong arguments can be given for both sides, but, economically, the creator owns more of the content than the cooperation. This would be considered a "Semi-Democratic System", where people control a majority (But not a large majority) of the economic output, any good communist would notice the flaw in this plan and would be against it.
0 likesIs he the reason coppa exists
0 likesthe boy's done it again..
0 likesmatts is basically a male karen
1 likeIs the wormhole deeper than the downward spiral
0 likesglad this got recommended, cuz i didn't get notified
0 likesR E D is the new G R E E N
0 likesEmp- i think ur sub count is stuck at 500,000 since last year
0 likeswasnt expecting 1539 n calvert to start playing lmao
0 likesThis guy is the reason hollywood blackeash redheads.
0 likesLmao. Just "down the hole"
0 likesThis is such an odd coincidence. Why? I got bored today and sorted the front page of reddit by "top of all time". Scrolling down, i found Matts video. I clicked, i watched, and was disgusted. I scrolled down to the comments, and was strangely surprised by the amount of comments from "1 day ago", even though the video came out almost a year ago. And most of these comments were shitting on Matt. I was confused as shit as to why they were shitting on someone doing a great thing, and someone recommended me to your video. For the first portion of your video, i was disgusted as to why you werent focused on the good he was doing. Then as you went deeper into the rabbit hole, and started pointing out inconsistencies in his logic, it becomes apparent he had some other motive for making the video. And the only reason i found this video, was because i just so happened to find his video, the day after you uploaded this, explaining his bullshit. Had i found his video 2 days ago, i would have thought he was a great guy, not understanding all the other youtubers hate twoard him.
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I’m glad you didn’t rage in the comments and watched through the video for the whole story and research.
0 likesLots of respect.
I'm actually French and this is the first time any English speaking youtuber mentioned a French youtuber thx
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Shyguymask is French and a pretty popular gaming channel. Not the 'OMG' but as a guy who does challenges, puts on white text, and doesn't seem greedy. Watch his Q&A video.
0 likesWhat if matt is just mei aids
1 likeMatt Watson? From SuperMega?!
1 likeWhy does Matt’s voice sound so much like fucking DSP’s voice?
0 likesI forgot this world
0 likesHis voice kinda sounds like DSP's which furthers my annoyance with him
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Ugh, you're right
0 likesDown the Spiral? You mean Down the Rabbit Hole
0 likesSo in conclusion, Alex Jones is right
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Donald Morgan true, he is almost autistic and tends to become very emotionally into whatever the fuck He’s taking about and dramatic shit lol.
1 likethey really are turning the frogs gay..
1 likeOoh yea!!! That one, numer 3!!
0 likesis that matt watson from supermega?
0 likesThey glow in the dark
0 likesMatt Watson? From Super Mega?
0 likeshe looks like tom stanton.
0 likesokay so here's what you need to do, youtubers:
3 likesForm. A. Union. A peaceable assembly to redress grievances COLLECTIVELY.
This union would have the resources to address Youtube management from a position of STRENGTH.
REACH OUT TO MATPAT. The Game Theorists / Film Theory kid? Yeah. Him. He's making GREAT strides in this direction.
Why is your intro exactly identical to Fredrik Knudsen's.....?
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It was a parady
0 likesI think he was just butthurt because his shitty excuse for satire wasn't giving him any notoriety. The video was probably a last ditch effort to gain some attention so he could ride the high. He probably wasn't a corporate plant, but as you said, they would have been ecstatic to exploit the controversy since they badmouth YouTube whenever they get the chance.
3 likesI went through a fairly pathedic "self help" phase a couple years back and I actually remember running into Matt's channel. I couldn't bring myself to watch for more than five minutes. It was just some chubby manchild screaming to a camera and recording himself walking through public parks. I never thought he would amount to anything. If only I knew.
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You were right, he didnt amount to anything.
0 likeswhen people switch to dailymotion, youtube will die
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Eesa But...no one will, and plus I think dailymotion is shutting down.
0 likesDailymotion is pretty bad tbh. Pornhub has a better chance of taking over YT
0 likesNice to see some TF2 stuff in the intro, thanks mate.
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TF2 is eternal.
11 likesWhen's 'There will Never Ever be another game like TF2' comin out?
5 likesAlthough honestly I feel TouHou is somehow the perfect sibling
@I SELL SALT its good to see someone thats neutral
0 likesMy stance on the "issue" of children being exposed to dangerous users on the internet was always that it was a non issue. I think that if someone decides to put themselves out on the internet, then they're assuming the risks of doing so, regardless of their age. If you're a girl who goes on a streaming site, and you show your titties for money, then you shouldn't be surprised when a bunch of creepy desperate guys start messaging you and threatening to hack your computer or burn your house down if you don't send them nudes. Actions have consequences, it's how everything works in the natural world. The thing that's great about the Internet is that it's, in it's purest form, natural: it's wild west. Theoretically if you're smart with how you operate, then you should be able to avoid ending up in a bad spot: it's a game of survival. It's my opinion is that kids who cheat the system, and put themselves out there regardless of warnings, are assuming the risks and understand the consequences; and that's true for every site. If you're a six year old going onto Team Fortress 2 and start talking shit and screaming the N word, then you should know that some guy might be streaming and your complete breakdown might be shown live to hundreds of people for their amusement. Child predators are awful people, I get that, but the fact of the matter is that they exist, and henceforth, exist on the internet. Kids who go on the internet should assume the risk that they may be targeted by child predators, I don't think that warrants banning children because I think that is some pussy shit. Let the kids learn some god damn agency and independence. Society is so fucking sanitary, so fucking clean and safe, so dishonest and plastic. The closest thing to the natural dangers of the real natural world is the internet. I don't think I've seen people grow in maturity as quickly as I've seen people on the internet grow in maturity. I genuinely think that there are 13 year olds that exist today who, thanks to the internet, have more wisdom and life experience than any 50 year old. I think that the internet is only the beginning of what is the natural evolution of humanity, and in robbing children of the internet, you are doing more harm to humanity than you can ever imagine. Someday, and I say this earnestly, I think we should all be absorbed into the internet and become one with it. Immortalized in a cyber web. I am against any and all regulation of the internet, because I think that letting the internet evolve, and whatever it's natural evolution turns humanity into, is only the proper result. Never before in history have so many consciences across the world been so close to one another: like a collective of thinking machines forming into a greater pool of logic, we are now truly exposed to all of our imperfections and vices. Through the internet, we see humanity's darkest sides, as well as it's greatest sides. Which one you choose to see is up to you, but becoming too focused on one or the other can be dangerous. If you wish to see something on the internet, you will inevitably find it, and you'll find more and more of it: and even if you fight to make it go away temporarily, the reality is that the issue still exists outside of the internet. Just because the woman killing her cat, and showed it on Facebook was arrested, doesn't mean that people no longer abuse animals. We think that just because we can't see an issue, that it doesn't exist, but humanities evils know no bounds. That being said, our charitability and kindness are also limitless, and thanks to the internet: it's easier to help people than ever before. Just like a spaghetti western: the endless sands of a desert are home to cannibals and rapists, but also heroes with strong moral codes and big irons on their hip. You cannot control the nature of that, but you can decide, as an individual, which one you want to be.
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Underrated post
3 likesBasically we need to educate and communicate with each other more. I've been saying this for years and that discription fits the internet perfectly! Only issue is that it'll never replace the intamacy of a face to face converstaion...
3 likesI'll admit straight up now that I am one the people you are describing in your post, albiet somewhat loosely, but still. I was very ignorant of how dangerous the internet could be, was exposed to a lot of stuff and questioned a lot of moral things I might not have.
Long story short, I've finally come to terms with all of it, I'm better now over all. Though something I had to learn was that dispite all I've been through, it might have been something nessesary. Like if I had no internet access, I might have had to learn everything the same way in real life, except it would have took longer and been harder. In laymans terms I had to realize that the internet wasn't to blame (for the most part) but this whole situation was my fault, I wasn't being responsible enough and I didn't have the self-awareness to realize it (which I wasn't even aware of THAT cause I tend to be self-aware of how I am in real life and blindly assumed the same for online interactions.).
Case in point talk to people you genuinely trust before you go on a mindless adventure online for several years. Even if you end up thinking that your parents are wrong about everything or some crap, at least listen to what they tell you, after all they are the only ones who will still (hopefully) be there for you when everyone else abandons you if your life doesn't play out right (well they should anyways)
I'll wrap this up. Basically what I'm saying is that we should aim for the truth above all else, protect your kids sure, but only do so so that they can become strong, that's more important than being safe. (Like what's the point of being safe if you don't do anything with that safety?)
I'm sorry but I WILL never ever sacrifice my sisters because they're 'dumb'. Yes, every action has a consequence but kids are easily manipulated and disobey laws because that's how their minds work! They can't survive by their own, there's a reason why they need parents. Kids are innocent. Dumb? Sure. Their fault? No, that's how any childs' minds work.
6 likesI mainly agree, but keep in mind all the Mommy Vloggers or channels like Daddy Of Five who basically broadcast every moment of their kids' lives online without consent. If a kid chooses to go online that's one thing, but I've deadass seen moms put pictures on social media of their kids in the bathtub or taking a shit.
3 likes@Jack Orlove more like "based post-singularity post"
0 likes@birthdayGnat Here is my opinion on how to fix this now, this is from a person who spent most of their time online as a kid using Pbskids.org and Nickjr.com and only used Yt for Creatures and Petz lets plays and never have messed with social media besides one Facebook account my mom gave me so that way I could talk to my family members more (I lived really faraway from them) so I might not fully understand your problems but here's my two cents;
1 likeJust supervise them have only be on kid friendly sites that you know are safe like the sites I motion above and there also this thing my Dad did the monitor of the computer was a Tv that was in the living room so if I wanted to watch something bad I wouldn't be label to not that I ever wanted to watch Porn or anything like that like ever and as time goes and when you think their trust worthy you can let them have more and more freedom.
Daga Qtawaru the question is when will you have your kids? I think the generation that is 7 and younger will be mostly children with constant access to the internet and we have yet to see what results this will have on them in their teens and young adult lives. If you can wait 10 more years to have kids, you may feel very differently about the state of social media and how it affects the growing generation.
1 like@Dared Rogers yup. Parenting is hard, but shit like this isn't. Putting the family computer in a communal space and not giving kids smartphones until they're teens is pretty basic.
1 likeThis is why Reddit should be purged smh.
0 likes"What is that a political refernce? Get with it google, i dont want politics on MY platform" please dont skewer me its a game grumps joke
30 likesNgl that ending gave me huge whiplash. The industry plant thing came absolutely out of nowhere and went from a retrospective into baseless speculation and conspiracy.
0 likesWasp removal
0 likesI need all my bitches same color as drakee
0 likesYouTube shows right wing content.... when you go looking for right wing content 🤷♀️
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I watch left wing political content and i get ben shapiro videos in my reccomended even when i havent watched a left wing channel in weeks
20 likes@Zevaron XZ It could have something to do with the title. Most Ben Shapiro videos are titled something like, "Ben DEMOLISHES LEFT WING with FACTS and LOGIC." But I don't know how important words in the title are in terms of recommendations.
19 likes@Zevaron XZ I usually get the reverse, i.e. left wing content recommended on right wing videos. YouTube statistics show that the algorithm recommends left wing content far more to centrists and right wingers than vice versa, and left wing content gets far more recommendations in general than centrist or right wing content, the latter of which gets recommended the least.
14 likesI watch center to right wing content and I get left wing stuff recommended. It’s about the similarities in topics and naming, I least that’s what I’ve found.
15 likesMaybe it could be that both left and right wing videos would be marked as "political", and in some cases, it's enough for the algorithm to link them despite other differences.
7 likes@Daniel yehoshua by right wing, what do you mean? It might depend on what you watch, because if it's stuff like blackpidgeonspeaks then I doubt you'd get left wing recommendations
0 likesI mean, that's why people are The Quartering or one angry gamer are a part of the pipeline. they bridge the gap between normal content (gaming, in this case) and reactionary channels (like crowder, Sargon, or Shapiro)
1 likeThats right tho, I watch lefty YouTubers and stuff like Metokur, SomeBlackGuy, etc pops up
0 likes@Lindybeige, Destroyer of Fr*gs Yes, those are reactionary channels.
0 likesI wish that was the case , youtube has never showed a left leaning youtuber in my recomendations.....lots of right wingers tho
0 likesYouTube literally promotes the young Turks and other orange man bad late night shows.
3 likes@D Walsh none of those channels you listed are "far right" if think they're far right you've got some issue.
4 likes@Huns With Guns Crowder allows more radical people onto his channel
0 likes@Nick Name I watch alt-hype, JF, etc., Who are much further right than BPS, but I still get recommendations for Contra and HBomberGuy
0 likes@Nick Name If you watch youtubers like black pigeon, then you're probably gonna get quite a few response videos from leftist youtubers at some point just due to similarity of topics. Same goes for right wings responding to leftists.
0 likesI seem to get a strange mix of always having some random videos from a left wing channel in my recommended but get auto played onto Nigel Farage while never watching any breadtube.
0 likes@Spencer Easton about what? It's just strange to have them recommended even though they're not really interesting (though HBomberGuy is quite entertaining)
0 likesI didn't expect r/chapotraphouse to be brought up, but somehow it doesn't surprise me
9 likesBro is that a frederick knixon reference???
0 likes40:00 I see that you enjoy Boards Of Canada, EmpLemon. Especially Gyroscope.
4 likesI love that you're playing the Doors in the background
11 likesFINALLY A YOUTUBE GEOGRAPHIC
22 likesJPEGMAFIA LETS GET IT
0 likes35 minutes in and you only just now have a vaporwave song? What kind of vaporwave documentary channel is this?
5 likesOf course he's Canadian.
9 likesWhy am I not surprised.
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A fucking leaf
3 likesWhy does 1539 n calvert just start playing 2/3rds the way through the video
0 likesNo one talking about the "down the rabbit hole intro"?
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Scrolled around to see if anyone noticed :D
2 likesDefinitely inspired by the Fredrik Knudsen series!
The question really is, how far down the spiral do you want to go?
4 likesI see zero value in coming to the defense of youtube, despite all of the asinine demonization hits, copyright rules and censorship dogshit that plagues the site
1 likeWell yes but no
0 likesIs that the Doors?
0 likes>It was on the front page of Reddit
17 likesI could tell there was trouble in the water just from that
matt: watchs children sucking ice pops
3 likesyoutube: reccomends videos related
matt: "im disgusted with youtube"
MATT WATSON? FROM SUPERMEGA?
0 likesEmplemon:
46 likesYouTube: I-
Emplemon:
I HAVE
HAAAAAAAAAAD IT-
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I have aaaalways wanted to tell you...
8 likesWHERES
MY
SUPER
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@4nt NUH UH
0 likesNUH UH
NUH UH
N U H U H
Matt Watson from SuperMega?
0 likesTbh I expected Matt to be a member of thebluepill lol
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Burndinorex pretty much.
0 likesSomebody's mad not everyone shares their hatred of women
0 likes@LJK401 Do you even know me? How tf can you even make that assercion?
1 likeBurndinorex It’s probably a troll to be honest....
1 likeThough given current circumstances of society, I feel like that dude my be serious.
Kik is defunct? could have sworn it was still up like a week ago. Guarantee that app is dead asf (in terms of community) tho.
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I didn't even know this app existed till this video
0 likesshould've called it "Red Hairing"
22 likesanyone else hear that peggy in the background? 37:30
1 like2:44 that beat switch
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Does anyone knows the name/instrumental? I was only able to find this https://open.spotify.com/album/4h2wxnxE00xtaJfugFvaZw reverse-searching with my phone.
0 likes@【 Chilael 】 the songs are in the description
0 likes19:57 kik isn't defunct. It's still around aftee being acquired by MediaLab
8 likesI look up anime and suddenly I'm in the hentai wormhole
3 likes32:06 Why did you put a video of DarkSydePhil
0 likesclassic buzzfeed viewer
0 likesw woah matt watson from supermega!
0 likesMatthew "supermega" Wattson?
0 likesWhy is Emplemon green
12 likesAnswer: Green Simpsons return
Anyone else notice how many children were in his recommended? only two clicks, yes but i could do that and my recommended would not be filled with children
1 likeBULLY. REDDIT.
0 likesSong at 16:24 PLEASE
0 likesWho is stupid enough to look up Club Penguin with CP?!?!?
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kids
0 likesNazi Radical; Noun. Defenition: everyone right wing of Vladimir Lenin
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Guess it could be a verb too
0 likesMatt Watson from supermega
0 likesGood video. Except you've mad your point at like 10, maybe 20 minutes mark.
0 likesMatt just wants to be a hero
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