I think it's interesting that both Clown and Tommy both hit on allot of the same points. I would ask how he's "bright" or "intelligent" when he's made so many stupid decisions, but clowns description of "social ineptitude" along with "no life experience" pretty much perfectly explains allot of that.
His net worth is still 4,000,000. That’s enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life off dividends and interest. He can let that money subsidize an upper middle class life style indefinitely..
The part with Tommy C. made me a little emotional. It makes me feel bad that everyone hated leafy so bad and that there will be haters that never see these videos. On the other hand it makes me feel better to know that leafy is doing well and that he put down the game of youtube, and picked up the game of life.
I discovered this Channel through your recent Leafy video and end up binge watching all your videos afterwards and there were some seriously great videos (especially the exposés)! I seriously can't wait to see what comes next!
Well, I've subscribed some time before the Trump meme theory video, mainly for YTPs, shitposts and well-edited rants... I never expected to see some documentaries like YT Geographic here, but I'm really glad I stuck around.
What I really like about EmpLemon when it comes to his Youtube criticism is that he provides evidence for all of his arguments. His statements are believable... why alt right?
One thing I love about you, EmpLemon, is that you make hour long videos feel like 20-30 minutes. Seems that only the better of your fans feel this while the less capable fans just complain. Congrats on the all the praise you got!
This video- specifically, Tommy's testimony- completely changed my view on Calvin, and the Youtube sphere in general. I've never really been able to relate to any Youtubers, but Tommy's testimony really showed how Youtube is just a community, just like any others you can find on the internet. The only difference is, each member of the community has a large influence on millions of people. But this doesn't prevent things that happen in regular old communities from happening, just now they are also out there to be seen and influence millions of people who aren't really part of the community, and don't understand the semantics because it's on a larger scale. This video shows to me, more than any other possible could, that Youtubers are people. They don't need to do anything. They like this community, but they don't have to like or dislike people, and they don't have to stay or leave. I used to look up to many Youtubers as these ''Larger than life" excellent people that I should strive to be. But now, I just see them as regular people who stumbled across Youtube, and explicably got to be a part of it's smaller circle of people.
And, as for the idea of Calvin writing a book based on his time as a Youtuber, and what he's observed about the effect of fame and fortune on the minds of young people, this is the only time that I have instantly wanted to read something really bad. This sounds amazing, and considering what Tommy and Colossal had to say about what Calvin was really like, I think the book would be insightful and extremely interesting. Based on what I gained from this video, Calvin is higher up than most other Youtubers that I would normally respect infinitely more than him. While many Youtubers treat their experiences at face value, Calvin looks at the entire landscape over the last few years, and understands it, and is now above it.
I don't think I can say that I can have "More Respect" for Calvin now, after this video, but I can definitely say I see him as a completely different person, and I don't push him under the rug at all like I had before.
I Don't Like Birds - I think the best thing to come out of Emp's Leafy documentaries is exactly what you've laid out here: a much better understanding of the true nature of who Leafy really is, resulting from Emp's genuine effort to diagnose exactly what happened to his channel and why, right down to testimonies and the understanding and analysis of his character. It's amazing to me that we all have a level of empathy for Leafy that none of us would ever have had without these videos, and yet that was never the motivation for making them.
After the first video, I was left with a couple of questions, such as why Leafy never changed his strategy even after literally the whole website turned against him. But after hearing what ColossalIsCrazy and Tommy C had to say, the idea of Leafy being the more entrepreneurial and competitive type makes so much sense. When Tommy was talking about Leafy's attitudes to his channel and success, and how he treated his subscriber count like the score in a game of Pacman, it clicked for me, just like it did for Emp and everyone watching. He didn't care about his content or his earnings, he didn't even care about fame. He wanted to win, and the YouTube Analytics provided an easy and objective way to determine his dominance. It's like why lawyers are so expensive and why sales people live for making money - it's not about the money, its about the number, and who's got the highest. That's it.
All I can hope for is that Leafy learns to appreciate the perks of being humble, honest, and when to be sensitive to how others feel - these things aren't just good for the sake of being respected by more people.
clown saying that the community were being hypocritical during the leafy hate train took the words out of my mouth, as for tommy, i have heard him talk about his personal experience with leafy before on sftp, but it was nice for him to go into further detail. once again great video!
Emp Lemon is what YouTube commentary should have been from the start. Analytical, thorough, and above mob mentality. Keep it up friend. I grew up laughing my ass off at your poops and now that I’m older I love your exposés. You’re awesome
the part where clown talked about "hating interacting with fans" is what confuses me the most because he always seemed to really enjoy it, especially in 2016. he always made videos featuring their fan art and responding/reacting to it. he even went out of his way to always talk to and reply to them on twitter, way more than most youtubers would. he always seemed to really appreciate the praise and acknowledgement he got from his fans and even made videos catering to what he thought that they wanted to see. maybe colossal is referring to later on in his career, because that doesn't totally make sense to me.
We really took the 2015-2016 era of YouTube for granted. Leafy was right when he said that many of the issues surrounding the platform back then seem insignificant and almost petty compared to what we're facing today. Worst part is, most of the more unsanitized, "edgier" (for lack of a better term) creators either have moved onto bigger and better things, flat out quit, or are so infrequent in video uploads that they may as well be considered retired, so there's no real massive counterculture that exists on here that can serve as an alternate option to the sterilized, manufactured content this site chooses to promote as the best talent they have to offer. All we can really do is observe the YouTube machine, as it has already become too big to stop. The Adpocalypse may be mostly over, but the damage has been left and the unwanted creators have heeded YouTube signals. PewDiePie is one of the sole exclusions to this, mostly because he was already a gargantuan force before he started making less advertiser-friendly content, but even he has become sort of an unwanted bastard child to the people who run YouTube.
Of course, that doesn't mean that edgy content no longer exists on YouTube, but you're lying to yourself if you think someone like FilthyFrank could obtain even a sliver of the success that they would have had three or four years ago. And it isn't like there's anything encouraging a new breed of creators in the same line of what existed back then, because most everyone is aware that the algorithm will fuck them out of any potential viewership they might obtain. So it's like, why even bother in the first place? In spirit, YouTube is a shallow husk of it's former self, and hardly any genuine personalities exist on here anymore, but I'm sure it is more profitable of a platform now than at any previous point in it's history, so all complaints about the type of content they encourage are likely completely insignificant to them. Good for them, I guess.
Not to say that we lack any inoffensive creators today, but most of them were lucky enough to come up before YouTube started solely dedicating themselves to appeasing advertisers, and once THOSE creators leave or stop uploading then there'll be practically no reason to come here unless you're 12 years old and idolize corporate Hollywood supermodels. All in all, we're fucked.
Wanna know something funny? since this leafywashere video came out, the first result when you search his channel is his actual channel. before there was no sign of his channel. just leafy related videos... just.. an observation
I hope for Leafy to come back, having learned from his mistakes, with new and improved content and strategies. He reminded me of myself, in many ways, and I truly enjoyed him. Does anyone feel the same way?
I hope YouTube doesnt mess with your channel, your content is very mature and in depth. Its refreshing to listen to and it comes from someone who is close to the heart of what we find charming about YouTube :)
I've never really liked Leafy's content. I still don't. Which is why when the drama went down and Leafy got pasted with all the hate for being backstabbing and duplicitous and other kinds of heinous shit, I was inclined to believe them... even though I've forgotten most of that silly drama. But seeing this reminds me of how overblown most of that youtube drama was, and of how glad I am that it's all over. But this only makes me more upset, because now I'm wondering why someone as talented and intelligent as Leafy appears to be would waste his time on the stuff he made? But I guess it's the Subscriber game, as Tommy C put it. There are things the man did that are indefensible, but I still feel his biggest mistake was just letting himself rely on cheap throwaway content. Because that content breeds a type of fan- and creator-base that tends to be a vector for the type of High-School drama cancer that took him and so many others down. Tommy, if you ever see this, you gotta tell that man that Calvin deserves a lot better than to be remembered as Leafy.
GradeA don't seem like he'll be any important for a YTG, like Leafy is. However his popularity at that time did set an important standard in my eye. That's you didn't really need to be professional in order to be big. You didn't need fancy high quality equipment to win people over. All he needed was MSPaint, and a laptop microphone. That alone tell me that the little man still had a chance, but only if you're passionate enough to do it. Shame how he's fallen, and very surprised on how he didn't take the blow much worse than Leafy. At least Grade is lucky being forgotten. Leafy is universally hated by majority, and will always be remembered. Sure Grade is too, but you don't really see him being an impact to Youtube history, despite the allegations to keem, and how he treated the reddit mods. Leafy I always felt bad for, but I won't say he wasn't asking for it. it was a long time coming for him, but damn how he was banished to the shadow realm was just nuts.
I think YouTube is becoming a more fragmented platform. Focus groups will be seamlessly separated within the platform based on the content they watch; all done by the all-powerful recommendation AI that YT trains on its users. Kids will see kids video, artsy people will see artsy content, and so on. There'll be some points of connection, just enough to bring you to communities you'll probably like, but never enough to find challenging content. Everyone is a point on an infinite field of intersecting content, impossibly separated and identified by machines we'll never comprehend.
In my recommended all I see is bolded clickbait titles when my focus are on car enthusiasm. Regardless the fact I try to block "Logan Paul" video types they are everywhere on my feed. I think YouTube is trying to steer viewers into those type of videos. Screaming, emotional, instagramming, teenagers vlogging themselves or whatever they do.
i disagree on not finding challenging content, it just takes a long while.
like about 2 years ago i used to watch some political commontators (armoured skeptic being the first) and then after a while watched more and more on and off until the early EU copyright crap was commented on by anti EU channels and the recommendations were... questionable.
like it was pretty much conspiracy theorist going from immigration being a problem into muslims will destroy democrissy by implementing sharia law because some countrys have 3 muslim MP's out of over 100 with no regard for voting boundarys.
but i do agree that youtube only spreads out slowly, only enough to make the average consumer not notice they're in a bubble, but definitely still trapping people in loops, like for example for a week my recommended was just smash content after the smash ultimate reveal, now i'm fucking sick of seeing smash 4 on my feed. the algorythm is actually making me loath using the site because it's overloading me on repetitive videos.
That is true, but that is also how they control the website. I think in order to have a free YouTube is to first show YouTube consequences of censoring people, I.e hurt them in the wallet.
In fact YouTube would be smart in just letting us, the people deal with channels that are considered cancer, like Elsa gate. Instead of this psycho shit.
Trenton Anderson I think YouTube would get more backlash if they openly said what sort of channels they don't want. The whole conspiracy with the gun shit shows that the reason they work in the shadows is because people would directly have backlash. They would rather have us just not know how things are working. YouTube's operations are like controlled chaos. That way they don't make it obvious when they censor something like gun channels. This stuff will continue to happen. YouTube has an agenda.
C.Home your right but eventually we the viewers figure it out and in effect show them that we know and we are ready to hurt them where it hurts. Just imagine a boycott of youtube, maybe a loss in money will show that they can't do shit like that and get away with it.
This would be a shocking eye-opener for a YouTuber just being a creative freelancer from 2007 till now not knowing what has been going on on the site. It's like an event in the real world that triggers nihilism but for YouTube
crookback - there's a "Not Interested" button on mobile when you tap on the option button beside recommended videos. You can modify the bot to your liking a little bit. I've blocked several channels whose personality i dislike
I was firmly in the camp of hate leaf boi even after watching your YT Geo. video, but now I've found that I have a lot in common with him like his passion for eSports and love of Quake. I even share some the negatives like being abusive towards children over the internet. A very strange realization then came over me: He was exaggerating the negative side of his personality to gain views and become the champion no matter the cost. Even if YT themselves had a hand in his downfall he was still going to play the game his own way to the bitter end. Like someone using an exploit to reach and win a grand final. The methods he used made him look bad, but they were effective, and he won the prize money, but his reputation would be forever tainted.
BirdsEyeView I’ve always liked Leafy until 2017 when his views started to die out, and sorta forgot about him. Now, I’m actually surprised how similar we sorta are in terms of passions. I love Quake and eSports, and many other things.
Those two interviews were very insightful. This video... Man, just thank you. In a way, it feels like I've gotten closure on what happened with Leafy. It's good knowing he's doing alright. I remember theorizing about YouTube targeting him some point mid2017 when it had been nearly a whole year after since YouTube 2016 was reaching its climax. And you know, back then, that time in 2017. It saddened me to think how he just fell off the map. I'd never seen a channel go from 100 to 0 so quickly. And I'll admit, I liked his normal commentator videos. I still remember my favorite videos were usually the videos about his own life. I dunno, I guess I just love when people just stop and reminisce. For any piece of any history, nothing hurts more than being forgotten.
Is it just me, or does a YT Geographic on JonTron sound interesting? Not saying that he's gone onto the "downward spiral" necessarily, but it's just that he and the channel seem to have been through a lot. Drama, audiences, production adaptations. Quite a bit to go off there, but you do you. Great video btw.
@Nick Mettert GenoSamuel is already working on an extensive documentary series about ChrisChan, so if you want to go down THAT rabbit hole...enter at your own risk
Excellent video, a lot of stuff learned. Leafy sounds like a really interesting person. I’d be eager to see him return to the Internet, not necessarily YouTube, in some way....
y'know most of the people who aren't going to watch this video aren't doing so because their attention span is short - but rather, because it's an hour long video about a subject that Emp already made an hour long video on - but the first one was well-edited and high-effort, while this is just talking. Even the qualifier of why the video is so long took about 8 minutes lol
There are only so many hours in a day and so many days in a year and so many years in a life. Wasting an hour on something that might not be dense with entertainment, knowledge or other enjoyment is just silly when there are billions of shorter videos that the viewer assumes are just as good.
I think if Emp was much more brief in summarizing why the video was long (say, 1 minute instead of 8) then people wouldn't have clicked off the video as much. :P
That being said, I watched the whole video and was satisfied, but people who thought it was too long aren't wrong.
If leafy came back as a hardcore gamer I would totally support him. It would definitely be a nice transition from the toxicity that slowly got worse and worse as his channel grew.
You know if i could, i would probably meet Calvin. From what tommy C said, he seems like someone i could be on the same lvl with. Gamers to the core (seriuosly, when im in waist deep in a game, i study it to be thee most efficient player), intellegent (k that sounds douchy, i know), business viewing...seems like an awesome dude to kick back and play something while conversing on something thay can be deep or something on a game. Tommy was right that he is fascinating, which is why i say all this. I've subbed him since 2015, and found his content...in a sense, "original". I didnt like the toxicity part of it, but the fact that he went "fuck it ill say what i want" just really amazed me.
Side note, yeah he be competitive af, but he be up against another sweatshirt as well.
Wow, this was extremely revealing about Leafy's character. I'm glad you managed to get these extra sources to let us know what happened. And you're a gosh darn genius for getting your theory entirely right :O
Well yeah, that part of the theory isn't proven , but it might as well have been. It's obvious that at least something is going on in terms of YouTube's algorithm and such.
But I was mainly talking about the aspects of Leafy that EmpLemon just theorized about, like why he left and the kind of person he is. I dunno, it just seemed pretty cool that he figured that out lol
I would love to know Calvin personally and get t be friends with him. He sounds like a cool and complicated guy. This might not be the most popular opinion but I’m sticking with it.
His net worth is still 4,000,000. That’s enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life off dividends and interest. He can let that money subsidize an upper middle class life style indefinitely..he won. 2 years of work for a lifetime of liesure
I'm not gonna lie when I say you are my favorite YouTuber. Whether your commentaries are scripted or live, you really deliver your thoughts and points in an entertaining yet informative way. Also your YTP editing skills transition nicely in your scripted commentaries, especially for visuals. I would like to see some more of these types of podcasts, they are really interesting to listen to. Plus they take less time to make than scripted commentaries and YTPs. I'm looking forward to more of your content in the future.
30:13 Emp predicted that YT would come out and say that Leafy was breaking cyberbullying rules and guidelines instead of saying that he was a danger to the family friendly advertisers. Years later after Leafy comes back, this situation occurs.
2016 was an interesting year when it came to drama. You had Keemstar, Scarce, Leafy, Pyro, GradeA, Colossal, H3H3, and iDubbbz gong at it. Poodlecorp and Lizard Squad hacking WatchMojo, Leafy, and Redmercy along with countless Blizzard servers. The whole election going on so there was drama with other YouTubers with that shit. Onision with the Christina Grimme incindent and so much more shit. Gotta admit, as shitty as youtube itself was that year, watching all that shit go down kept me well entertained.
Does this mean that youtubers can actually control how many and when the ads happen in the vid??? This explains why these freakin ads keep poppin up at the WORST times. My goodness.
These videos really inspired me man.....Idk I for some reason feel like I have a responsibility to show people these videos in light of what happened to leafy and just the fucked situation he was in. He might just about be one of the most interesting people I have ever seen on the whole internet. He had something to bring to the table and he really did leave a big impact and left his mark. That just left him with the big downfall of his youtube career. Thank you for the light you have brought to this subject, and thank you for the in depth roller coaster i have just experienced. I had no idea Youtube had this much of an impact on peoples lives and their physiological state. This is truly an interesting study that I hope to do some more research on.
I will say I'm eager to see if Leafy will ever come back, but with his recent actions before officially going off grid with the money and content trade off scandal, bashing on kids and not keeping elements of his past content I'm concerned and realistically thinking what might happen if he ever comes back
Plus if he does he might not be in the caring mood since it's said (by Tommy C at least) he's already set with plenty of money and is living life
In short, I hope the best for the dude in what he encounters and how he handles everything, from the looks of it there aren't many good people rising from others recently, but there are people that do
tommy changed my perspective of leafy. he was passionate about youtube. until it wasnt fun anymore. but moving on to passionate things. im starrting to like leafy. accept the things he did wrong.
I very much enjoy your YouTube Geographic series, as well as the rest of your longer videos. The editing is phenomenal, and the videos themselves are very informative. While a lot of people stretch for time, I feel like your videos are like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly in the sense that they're long, but I couldn't see them being any shorter
The towerdog leaks and you're take on the matter may also explain why celebs youtubers were so boastful about their numbers and views at those time. I think that YT was trying really hard to reach to kids and Youngs between 2012 and 2017, trying in fact to renew its audience. The fact that kids are more gullible and tend to coment more often than other age-classes was in my opinion the reason why those big channels tried first to enforce this kind of understanding the trends and career trajectories of other ytbers. Numbers were law at those times, and now nobody can stop talking about how commenting, liking and quantifying options are important to a channel nowadays. Broken English, appologies
Your content and analysis of YouTube has kept me happy for the past 4 years, you deserve this spike in popularity 100%.
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I'm glad the old vid got a follow up. I always saw the sins of Leafy as universally shared among most people on YouTube. I'm really glad you made these 2 videos, I don't think I have many more questions to ask about this now. Leafy actually inspired me to try and make videos so I bought a capture card... then I lost internet access for a year and his channel was run into the ground. If only I knew all of this in 2015 when I subscribed to this dude playing CS:GO and telling life stories. Thank you for making this video, all of the confusion has been taken away.
I’ve been watching you since your old ytp days and seeing a video you put your time and effort to this extent get appreciated is just great to watch! Good work Emp
BTW if you see this, I think one of the things that REALLY deserves a youtube geographic is youtube politics. Not you talking about your political opinion, (kinda thought your EU vid was trash) but just the state of politics on this website. It's really interesting to see the reflection of society in this website.
Reasons why youtube is so right wing would be intresting ive never been sure why. You might think I'm biased but only 5% of americans identify as antifeminist, wheras its like the mainstream view on youtube even for neutral channels.
Caleb Benson you want to see politics in your video game ? I don't +most people don't associate with anti feminist or feminist because they are affraid look at all the ''right wing'' (as media says ) youtuber or even activist they are In deep shit or at least they were feminist are just crazy so people don't want to be called crazy and they don't want to be in deep shit too
I began watching this video with no idea of how any nuance could possibly be given to the subject. I have to say that I’ve been very pleasantly surprised. This new insight gives me a perspective that I never would have gotten even back in 2016. Definitely worth watching all the way through.
It's interesting how Leafy's content makes him seem like some kind of shallow airhead, yet I can believe that he's as intelligent as they say. He probably just minimized the work put into each video to maximize his numbers. He certainly rode waves of YouTube fame for a while, and he knew how to get into some healthy controversy and consistently appeal to people he didn't even like much. If YouTube itself didn't pull the plug, he very well could have faded away, but he also could have branched out like PewDiePie did. Whatever he does, I wish him the best, and I hope that he doesn't get too obsessed or screw anyone over.
i love watching longer videos from you! sometimes i just sit back and watch or listen while i’m cleaning or doing my homework. i’m so glad that you’re blowing up right now, congrats man
I actually really enjoyed this video. Even if it is just you answering questions for an hour, the way you get the answers out there is pretty chill and insightful for what goes on behind the scenes. All and all, pretty cool.
This was a truly great video. I am so impressed with your research skills and attention to detail! I'm really happy I subscribed to your channel; you are awesome♥️
great vid dude. You're one of the few people who would have ever even cared enough to show both sides and not take the cheap and easy narrative. Keep making good stuff!
Those last 20 minutes accompanied by the music actually almost made me want to cry. I never realized how much of an intellectual Leafy was, and now that I look back, I feel like I could’ve seen bits and pieces of his intelligence scattered throughout his videos. I really do miss him. It was as if there was a slight part of myself in his personality, whether that persona was real or fake I’ll never know, but for a while, I enjoyed his content and who he was. I feel like with this new outlook on him, I could enjoy it even more. He won the game, and I wish he could teach us all a few tricks on how to win our own games.
2 years later, Emp was right. Leafy has returned with two videos seemingly attacking idubbbz and that situation. The editing style of these videos shows his lack of change, and his endcards "website is still shit" shows hes still watching youtube. Who knows if this is his comeback to the platform, or just two random videos he decided to make and post, i guess we will find out soon......
@Sukellusmies He needs to keep up his Reptilian persona. He may be a bit more chill behind it but this is his business on Youtube. Also he seems to have only been back just for the fun of it.
I remember back then I used to dislike leafy intensely and make him out in my head as irredeemable person. I even made a rant video back then about him, I unlisted because I don't like it. I now feel sorry for him and have a new found admiration for him. In many ways I agree with your quote "there's a bit of leafy in all of us." Because I see a lot of leafy in myself, and in many other people on and offline. I just wish we could see him make a come back.
This Video, and the other video made on Leafy, has truly changed my thoughts and views of Leafy and his channel. I used to think of leafy how everybody thought of him, an evil bastard who is willing to throw people into a warzone for fame. But after these two videos, I have a new view on him. I now see him as a guy who did wrong, but felt forced to keep going because of youtube fame, not for It. For this EmpLemon, I thank you.
Thanks lemon, i really appreciate your hunt for the inner machinations of youtubes schemes and behind the scenes stuff, and thanks for giving me, like you said, some closure, i just hope no one tries hunting or hounding people who know leafy after this, if he does he does, if he doesn't he doesn't
I don’t want leafy’s old content to come back, but I want leafy to come back. I want to see who he is today, from what I’ve heard from him in regards to his personality I want to see him project that into content. Much like I appreciated h3h3’s personality, I feel like I would appreciate his personality, even if it’s at the other side of the spectrum.
This is a lot happier of an ending that I expected. I expected he was some dude now in the poor house stuck remembering his days of empire and glory, but he’s a happy, wealthy man going about his life. I’m glad he made it out happy.
This video is great, but also a paradox. Knowing that Leafy has a normal life humanizes him, but the fact that he acts so strangely to his empire collapsing almost makes him more inhuman than ever. Then there's Tommy C showing no remorse for attacking Leafy back in the day like some scumbag lawyer making fun of his clients behind their backs (I worked at a law firm, I know what I'm talking about). It really shows how petty internet fame can change people, make them inhuman. What an interesting look into the youtuber community...
I remember you one time saying you read all your comments. I hope you still do (or even can with the influx of new viewers and commenters) just you can see me say that your very comfortably in my top 5 favorite youtube channels. I absolutely adore your editing style and the topics you discuss. I’m very happy your channel is growing so nicely so more people can see your great channel.
I'm glad I tuned into this. I've been always ignorantly wondering what happened to Leafy(since I was quite a bit of a fan of him, and I still am despites the hates and criticism he gets.) until I stumbled upon your Geographic video and now this. This video answered a few of my questions and made me hope for his return, changed. And I am thankful for it; thank you for making these videos.
I'd love to see that, although Papa Franku didn't fall like Leafy did. All that happened was Joji didn't feel happy making the content anymore and it was actually affecting his health (he actually needed to get surgery because doing the guttural Frank voice damaged his vocal cords I think) and he switched instead into making serious lo-fi music with 88Rising.
It would make a fascinating YouTube Geographic even if he didn't fall or go through a downward spiral. A youtuber named Serena did an interesting video essay on the whole cancer crew. It was more of an analysis from a film studies perspective but it was interesting nonetheless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbaV6o_aFP4&t=524s
@Princess Applestrach the opposite; he was actually very happy with what he was doing, and didnt want to stop. what forced him to was a medical opinion
right after that, he released an incredibly depressing album. i think theres a correlation, even if tiny
I'm not 100% convinced that youtube would have chosen to specifically target you. Your videos aren't obscure by any means but considering the sheer amount of higher notoriety channels on youtube I'd be surprised if they really even knew you existed. My theory on your videos getting demonetized (and subsequently being promoted less, because a link between those has been proven) is either: a) Youtube scanned for and automatically flagged videos that their ai deemed to be overly critical of their website, or: b) The demonetization bots were just horribly inaccurate due to being in earlier stages of machine learning. I personally think the latter is more likely. I'm not 100% certain but I THINK the demonebots have gotten better as time's gone on, but the fact that everyone was subjected to them when they were at their stupidest is still incredibly shameful (and I highly doubt they're perfect yet either).
well, i disagree the leafy geographic video got pretty popular so youtube might have seen the channel, and if they did the would probably target him since he brings the obscure and shady doings of youtube into the spotlight. youtube, like any other business, wouldn't want the community to know they have been destroying channels on purpose, so they would demonetize and target emp lemon so that no body sees him.
I agree a lot with what you say, and after looking around, not even Penguinz0/Cr1t1cal seems to have got hit by youtube after criticizing it. Very few criticisms of youtube have many views, and maybe youtube is censoring them. My research was kind of shitty but on a surface level all I concluded is this: It seems that saying something like: "Youtube has betrayed us content creators" is too mainstream for youtube to censor much and get away with it. Only videos that are even more critical/sharp of youtube's negative sides have any opening to be harshly censored if any. I don't think youtube can get away with censoring big channels very much/oftenly or people will catch-on and build a counter-movement, too risky. Theoretically you can pump out attacks on small channels without any reasonably find-able traces of proof, because of how fluctuating viewership is inherently (not the same for large channels though!).
I think personally that emplemon is not getting focused by youtube unless they somehow found him and grey(more subtle black)-listed him. I would honestly wager 50/50, BUT because of how popular some of emplemons anti-youtube videos spiked there is a real potential for it.
Youtube has known Emp Lemon exists for a while. He's had talks with at least one representative, from my understanding from his own videos. He has had concerns for some time, and I'm sure that in his attempt to 'lose subscribers' with his content switch (what he called his Downward Spiral) he has had a lot of experience looking at his analytics. I understand where his paranoia comes from.
Youtube has learned to watch people quite effectively. They've seen Youtube Poop - there will never be another Walrus Guy. They've seen Yugioh the Abridge Series - there will never be another Little Kuriboh (both used copyrighted content, and would never take off today). They have seen animators move from Newgrounds, and then they squashed those channels too (Weebl's Stuff used to be big, now channels like him are irrelevant compared to the new Drama genre).
Youtube has a business model to promote what it wants to promote. What they want is rich, vapid people to create drama - the more harmless and stupid, the better. They want more WAALLLLLLLLLLMAAAAAAAAAARRRRT memes. Anything that will drive viewership to low effort content is seen as a good thing. Anything that only takes a camera and a personality to start, they will promote. Let's plays, drama, reviews, etc. That is the promoted stuff. Everything else is niche.
ravemastaj | If your theory is so true, why not push commentary channels? Those channels always cause tons of it, and Leafy is just one example. And why would they target channels with non-dramatic content? It’s still money in their pocket.
Imbion Answer is tags see lemon mentioned this in the last video but a user found that youtube was blacklisting key terms for searching which would explain why lemon videos on youtube didn't get seen
Amazing video, just as always worth watching, and length. I honestly dont care about the length, they contain information, info that if its too quickly brought would lose its value. I think that you, Emp, have a perfect nose for it, spreading info density. And I think that your videos should be in the trending tab of at least 6 countries, since they have info good info, they are well written and well structured. I cant wait for wich subject you ll tackle in your next yt geographic. But I already know its gonna be a good one. Thank you for making the downwards spiral less bad, and thank you for just simply doing your thing.
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I really like your long videos, I just enjoy listening to long commentaries while playing a good game, and this (and your other leafy video) were really insightful an engaging. Hope to see more meaty videos like these in the future!
Not wanting to watch an hour long video has nothing to do with having a short attention span in most cases. It's far more often about.. y'know, we only have so many years in a life, and so many hours of free time in a day. Sure, we could pay attention to a 4 hour long video, but if we can get equal satisfaction, knowledge or experiences in a ten minute video, then why would we? That's why long videos need to really have a qualifier if they aren't packed with tons of effort or otherwise value for the viewer for time spent.
Kind of a rant about nothing, it doesn't matter, but your whole argument of "if you dont wanna watch my hour long video and you think it should be shorter, you have a small Youtube viewer brain and attention span" is pretty pretentious and self-important and just silly lol
I remember all of this drama happening but it feels like Youtube have completely erased it from the history. I haven't even thought about leafy after the content cop until I came across your documentary and I remembered how big of a youtuber leafy really was. I feel like he should get rid of his fanbase and just come out fresh as a new and different person. I personally loved his older story and rant videos but I couldn't stand the bullying (especially against the kids) and the titles became too clickbaity where I didn't even know if it was a joke or not. But I'd love to see him come back as a new person and just talk and hell I'd even watch his gaming videos even if I'm not a fan of it. Thank you for your input on this whole thing it really changed my perspective on Calvin as a person.
Leafy's story reminds me of the macedonian empire. In it's final days when Alexander the great (Leafy) died, his generals(his closest commentary friends) split the big empire between themselfs. There was the seleucid kingdom, ptolemaic Egypt kingdom, etc.
14:08 Emp gets angry when playing cuz he couldn't beat the level, so he smashes the reset button without knowing that it doesn't really help him. Edit: He probably rage quits lol
Amp I have been with you since the time of YouTube poops and man your content, I feel nowadays is just so much better than it used to be because of how interesting it is and new it is and please keep on going man, keep on going down that downward spiral!
Honestly, long form content has become so popular, and for damn good reason.
It allows people to get in depth on a subject and(if done right) allows the audience a window of insanely vivid detail of the subjects discussed in them.
I agree with alot of things said, I would be more then willing to get to know Calvin rather than leafy. The man behind the mask. I would like to read this imaginary book as well I think it would be something.
Before watching this video, I feel like you gained 50K subs because of leafy fans. You weren’t scathingly negative, you provided a great and well digested video about his path to fame and failure. After, you said you saw things similar that’s happening to you. You provided some critical thinking near the end of the leafy YouTube demographic video. I’d say that’s a step in the right direction
TL; DR you had a neutral response with some self reflection. Good on you, Emp.
So here's what's really going on with YouTube. They want to be the alternative to television that appeals to millennials who no longer watch actual TV. They pay content creators the same way that television networks pay creators/directors of television shows to air their content on a time slot within their channel/network. However, in the same way that executives of a television channel want to appeal to a wide demographic to make as much money as possible, YouTube executives want their front-running channels to appeal to that same broad demographic. Television programming has to be run through filters and censors, namely the FCC, to ensure that a five-year-old kid doesn't turn on the TV and see porn or some guy getting his guts ripped out with a chainsaw. YouTube realized that virtually everyone under the age of 60 has a computer in their home nowadays, and virtually everyone under the age of 60 knows how YouTube works. They don't want to run the risk of that same five-year-old who turned on the television to go on YouTube and see the first video in their recommended be a compilation of Samuel L. Jackson's greatest lines in Pulp Fiction or a channel like Leafy's that directed impressionable people to harass certain people mindlessly. It's the mindset of "we need to make this appropriate for the youngest possible demographic we commonly see on here", which would be young, impressionable kids. I'm not defending YouTube here for doing this, I'm just explaining why they're doing this. They want their own version of the FCC to be used on the platform to make it more suitable for all ages, and that's the bottom line, BECUASE STONE COLD SAID SO!
i've been a subscriber since 2012 (back before i started using this account). you've grown a lot from just making youtube poops and i'm glad that you found success in doing other things as well. can't wait to see what you have in stored for the future!
I remember watching his videos and enjoying them. Granted they got repetitive but I still missed him when he was gone. Ironically enough I used to hate leafy was here too. But now whenever I hear of him (especially after your videos) I can’t help but get sad. I’ll tell you one thing, id take leafy any day over the Paul brothers and rice gum.
It would be very interesting if leafy case back, it would be cool to see a reborn leafy, especially if he had a whole new form of content. I would personally like leafy to come back. There was something about him that made him so watchable
Ive been watching you for a few months now Emp, and I won’t lie your content, your commentaries/documentaries and your whole demeanor and style really do remind me of the golden days of YouTube that I grew up with (for me that was from 2008-2016). You’re a huge inspiration, and more importantly someone who does YouTube for the right reasons in my opinion. Keep up the great work and know that you have inspired me and my work too
I swear, EmpLemon's content always finds a way to become better with each video which always seems impossible once the next one is over. The stretch from the Top 10 Memes of 2016 to this vid has been like a renaissance of content for EmpLemon
I miss Leafy. I miss 2015 and 16 as well. I think about those days a lot, and i've realized that as ridiculous as it sounds, Leafy was a somewhat important part of my life. I'd compare leafy to a kids show you used to watch. His channel occupied a lot of my time in his earlier days, and i was very keen with his community. Leafy was my favorite youtuber for a stretch of time. I'm describing this in detail just to show how much his channel meant to me back then, and how much it means to me now to hear that hes ok. Its ridiculous I know, but i feel that he was a good person and made me happy many times over, and made me laugh in worse times. This is just a bit of love and consideration towards leafy where i know there isnt much. I hope he comes back but if he doesnt thats fine. However, i truly wish the best for him and thank him for all the times hes made me smile.
I have already watched the original video like 6 times, from beginning to the end. I never get bored of your content. Clown's and Tommy's testimony was really important to this subject. Great video like always
Damn, after hearing what Tommy C had to say I actually kinda want Calvin to return. Not doing the same things he was doing when he was active but maybe comeback doing what he has passion for. From what Tommy was saying it sounded like Calvin could actually make a difference no matter what he ends up doing. I wish him the best and hope he does well in the future
Videos like these almost feel like a podcast, where its something you can put on in the background and listen and fully absorb a lot of the information with a slight bit of visual input. 10/10
this was really good thanks for making this video, it was pretty depressing after what clown said so I'm glad tommy came on at the end. i also really like these long videos so I hope you can make more in the future
oh hey it’s me. EmpLemon gave a pretty solid answer. I actually thought only Content Cop completely killed Leafy’s channel but knowing about the leaks EmpLemon provided gives a better reason why Leafy’s channel could’ve been killed.
After watching this video I decided to binge a few other 30 min to 1 hour videos and your content is so interesting and engaging I must've watched about 3 hours of your stuff. Even though youtube sort of fucks you over I hope you keep uploading because I generally enjoy your content so much. I've been watching your videos since 2014 with Lightning McQueer and the Quest for Tires, and all your other poops when I was about 11. And I'm proud to call myself a fan.
Just a dumb thought: What if someone intentionally slows down their videos to half the speed of the original, then tells viewers to speed up the playback rate to 2x? That way, watch time would be met with only half the effort required.
The thing about Emp that I enjoy is that his content is absolutely unique and he enjoys doing it. He has great content that isn't clickbait. His research and video quality reminds me of the Shane Dawson docu-series', but something that seems to be more important. Him, as a YouTuber, does truly fear YouTube. For some people, this is their job. Just the way that YouTube operates could possibly get rid of completely innocent channels. Emp speaking up about this is absolutely important, imo
The Meme Meister Several months ago, TheGamerFromMars made a short video about Leafy and had the same hypothesis of YouTube removing Leafy from recommendations.
As a long time fan of YTP videos, yours always got me and the KOTH YTP as well. I enjoy the change of content and find it a beautiful refresher of a downward spiral. Thanks for the material and for the refreshing restart back to my original passion on this site.
when i got onto this video i started to get bored about 12 minutes in and said to myself "imma watch a bit more of this and then imma move on to something else". i ended up watching the full video good shit
also this video has made me sympathise with leafy in some way. as was said, he's just some normal dude, with some flaws, kinda cold, but he's a normal dude.
I genuinely find your YouTube graphic series, especially the one on leafy and this follow up interesting. I usually just stick to my little bubble filled with creators and that's it. I will go on recommended and watch some videos or hear of YouTube rivalries, but that's really it. Your series shows the parts of YouTube that I and others probably wouldn't see and you approach topics with actual interests. You also seem to keep things unbiased, which is very respectable. I hope you continue creating great content.
Overall, the whole story for me is a classic case of "Rise and Fall of an Empire" which was caused from somewhere within. The case to me has a very complex plot, as many of these kinds of cases tend to have. A true downward spiral indeed.
Interesting video really, and the quality of your last video led to you getting some pretty valueable contacts.
Tommy C letting us know that Leafy was happy was a reassuring thing, while Leafy was far from a youtube angel, i wouldn't wish for him to be miserable.
Off topic but the Allegretto from Beethoven's 7th is one of my favorite pieces of classical music. I've performed the 7th in it's entirety once, and I've listened to the Allegretto A LOT. Everytime it comes on in the background I tend towards listening to it rather than the commentary in the foreground. Like anybody else get this?
Awesome video, great pursuit of some degree of closure, very measured and balanced review and revisiting of your initial YT Geo exposé. ✌️✌️✌️✌️😎💯😎😎💯😎💯
The one thing that hurt the most while watching this was when colossalis claimed that leafy hated his subscribers, leafy was really one of my favorite YouTubers.
That collosal is crazy memo made me realize that yeah, he didn't spend much money on anything, and we all knew he was making a crap ton off of ad revenue, but he wouldn't even buy a better webcam or mic, dude just grinded videos everyday always hitting a million plus, he's probably just set for life.
Thanks Emp, here a loyal subscriber, and dont thank me, i thank you. Industry, be it Youtube or any kind of industry always come to be an evil hell... I want to dig deep into a topic and share an internal thought about all of this. Is up to anyone who wants to read a lot, otherwise keep scrolling.
I've always been a guy with a quite unique personality, just as many other people, after all being unique is not unique, heh. But everyone seemed to love the way I was, the way I am. I might have shared some things with him or the guys like him, like sociopathy, humour, dickness, chaos, considering everything as a game... (Tho in a particular different type of style, maybe a bit more caring and mature), and not even for taking him as an example, I did not even knew Leafy as a youtuber until all this drama started. Many have said many times to me to create a YouTube channel and just be myself, and that, would have personally liked me very much. Maybe even the way I am, not to be egocentric, but would've maybe most probably even made me famous, being the fact that almost everyone who got to know me tagged me as an icon. Being myself on the internet, the place I loved, and even get the chance to become famous... was a thing to raise my temptation... But actually I don't know what, at the time made me think, the result was not going to be myself. I thought I wasn't ready for the upcoming, I was still too young to be affected by that world. I live and lived in not quite the best conditions, never been too rich, just the necessary to cover a slight over the average; would have dreamed to live on my own, away from many personal problems; to my persona to be known and seen as an icon to people laugh and enjoy with its videos and livings... And I've always been a dedicated guy to keep going until i make my dreams come true, but I thought the newer problems that new world would bring... Nobody's perfect, and I got to know a few times in a lower scale, outside, in other contexts, that while being on the light spot those little missteps about one not being perfect, get to magnify a lot, and people is absolutely unpredictable, so as having more people to being followed by, the more the little cracks would be poked until all falls apart, and... Was that what I wanted? I had lots of things I wasn't perfect, and I didn't wanted to correct, after all I just wanted to be myself, so I now watch this video and put myself on the other side, the side EmpLemon is talking about, criticising on the good and the bad, and though critics are good, the effect on the public about the one being criticized can be mass-bad, and as I said people is unpredictable, and I was not prepared, not for the industry devil, not for the angry mass of people... So I watch this video now after not having done anything over the years and I sweat, I smile, I hear my hard breathe, about the hypothetical, but the possible future I may have had from that alternative starting point many years ago but that thankfully never happened. Yeah sure I don't live on a mansion, don't sleep with a supermodel, nor have an exotic car... I still have problems, the same as before, dont even have a computer now, but i know i have to work for it, i could be sad thinking about the possible, but overall I think I got to live it more happy this way, making my close circle of friends happy everyday, knowing their faces, and that they're happy about it, not just random throwing happiness to a fishtank of people and let some enjoy, and some others fight for it. I'm normal but happy. So this is the story of a nobody, an hypothetical famous icon from another parallel universe. I'd like to hear some comments and thoughts about it, or not if you don't want to, but I'd only have liked to help you or inspire you if you got to be now in the same starting place I was some years ago. Thanks for your time.
I really enjoyed this video. It's an interesting topic and you got all this information just to share it. I like the trajectory of this channel, even tho I'm new here, but watched some of your vids
I feel like this video wrapped it up nicely. I think I get how Leafy really works now. He’s such a character. I can’t believe throughout all this time he really was actually just playing a game with YouTube, hell, he was playing a game with us viewers. He bet his time and effort on us to watch his videos, and in return, he became so well-off that he doesn’t have to do it anymore. I’m kinda glad he got where he is. He played a good game.
Hearing Tommy C.'s take on this is really interesting to me, as it kinda sets Leafy up as an intentional "heel". The strangest thing about all this to me is that it makes perfect sense. The idea that someone would see YouTube as a game where subscriber counts and video views are "high scores" isn't exactly unusual in my eyes. You see this kind of thing in a lot of ultra-competitive individuals, a great example being a private high school's chase for Valedictorian. I think Leafy knew exactly what he was doing, but I don't think he really cared one way or the other what others thought about him in the process. To him, YouTube was a game that he could win, and that's exactly what he did. He had no qualms with stepping on toes and didn't mind going down in flames, so long as he went down in a way he could be remembered. He beat YouTube for years, and didn't mind crashing and burning when his time came. From this description, I'd argue he's a bit of a sociopath, but I'm sure he's not the only one who thinks of YouTube in this way, and I can't argue he wasn't successful with it.
"what i see when i look at your channel are growing numbers, so i can't do a leafy style mumkey jones documentary" after recent events with mumkey's channel getting terminated by 3 simultaneous strikes, all paired with dumb motives, would you be willing to do a mumkey documentary now? i'd actually really like to see it from your perspective!
Hey Emp, idk if you read comments or what not but I just want to thank you for producing content of this quality so regularly. Most youtubers who try to call out this site for its shit really have their backs against the wall, and I’m glad you’ve managed to continue creating such great content while dealing with all the hardship thrown at you by youtube.
I feel like if leafy comes back he should do a draw my life to give us an insight on what his life was like to be in the eyes of leafy I want to really know what was behind that mic besides the chin tehe
I must say Emp, you have a really good taste in music. The use of classical musicians and prog rock groups like ELP & Pink Floyd is a nice thing to hear in videos.
ive been a sub for a while now at least 2 years. I have no annoyance with an hour long video, I actually enjoy longer ones. You’ve definitely grown, your editing has been better and your thoughts have been more out together too. I have had the issue with your videos not showing up, but I go out of my way every week or so to search for your name and binge the stuff I missed if anything at all. I really like the exposes and meme reviews. The LEAFY video really made me think about how YT is becoming such an echo chamber of god knows what. It’s just like Vine 2.0 and trying so hard to be the corporate media that tries so hard to destroy them. You have great insights and I really look forward for the videos you have in the future. Thank you for all the laughs and second thoughts about ideas I would not have previously
Hey Emp, I know you're long done with this project, but I thought you might be interested in knowing that Leafy and Keemstar were actually able to talk and be friends before leafy left YouTube. Although you probably know that especially if you watched baited.
This gave an interesting insight into the side of leafy we all didnt get to see, hearing about his more private affairs and motivations really changed my opinion about him, and Im quite comendative of his mindset he could really apply himself into anything and be successful at it with enough time and enough people reigning him in. I hope we get to see his entrepenural endevours thrive elsewhere.
Actually there‘s a really interesting story around Gradeaundera too. Just like Leafy‘s reputation got ruined by IDubbbz, Grade‘s reputation got ruined by a smaller Youtuber called Reactor. There‘s a really interesting video explaining how that guy tricked Reddit multiple times and made a fake Grade Video run as an ad on grades channel leading to an expose.
Now that I've seen this video, I think that leafy was a cancer on YouTube, but an alright dude, with Tommy's points, I think if he is more careful with his fans, and makes good content, he would be a good YouTube channel.
Dear mr. Lemon I love your videos to me someone who was never often online, you are a YouTube gatekeeper. Non of my friends get it I think your videos are genius, but they just see it as a 41 minute video on leafy
Usually when someone makes a video that is over 30 minutes long it is extremely slow paced boring and they repeat the same points over and over again. but you managed to make the leafy video fast pasted fun and entertaining to. Kudos to you emperor of the lemons.
This was a great video. I would love for leafy to make one more video as leafy, we’re he goes on and says “hey guys sorry I’ve been gone for a while but look at this kid here!” I would love that shit! But I would definitely like a “Calvin” too. That would be a great channel that I think has the potential to go a long way.
26:20 I would love to make a platform where all the normies get left behind on YouTube and all the good content creators go to the new platform. If I made one I would invite Emp.
Your videos have convinced me that Leafy/Calvin might be one of the most interesting figures in recent memory. I hope he finds a resurgence in popularity in some form.
Umi ZoomR it's like you didn't even watch the video. 2/3 of the video was literally people talking about him and how he was totally different than what he showed on YouTube. The short attention span strikes again. If you actually watched the video you'd know.
I'm one of those new subs from the leafy vid, I saw it a few days ago and since then ive watched a fuck ton of your videos and i love them. Keep doing what you do, Emp!
Believe it or not I found your channel looking up old YTP a month ago. I watched a few YouTube Geographic vids and now I'm here to stay. Keep up the good work!
Well after the leafy interview with keem, you were dead right. He had a lot of issues with youtube. He made enough money to invest, and life off, so felt no more need to force himself to make more videos on a platform that wanted him gone. He said he doesn't think he'll come back, but that he MIGHT at some day.
Neiasaurus Creations it’s good that he saves his money unlike ricegum who realized that his numbers were shrinking and wouldn’t be there forever, so he did what any logical person would do and sponsor fake gambling to kids
Woah dude, another layer into Leafy This seems to touch on a lot of what other people said in the day too, even though he's nowhere near as bad as people said he was.
I subbed because I adore the documentary style you used on your leafy was here video, it was clever and well stated and got me watching your other vids >w>
Man, this is really good. You really got a good journalistic perspective on this one, especially with all of the people you were able to connect to. I'm really enjoying all of these, and I think that there are some deeper themes that were hit here. Not only was this about one person's fall from grace, but this became a story of betrayal, corruption, greed, and sacrifice.
It is so interesting to see people slowly morph from someone who is innocent to someone controlling millions of people in a very malicious way. I can't believe how something so innocuous as YouTube that is just trying to entertain- and through lack of societal awareness, lack of care for individualism, lack of interest in improving the overall quality of the site for reasons other than a bottom line, and dangling the most massive prize in front of the socially inept could lead to such a toxic environment that negatively affected so many people.
This stuff is what I really love to hear about, man. I love the Beethoven too. Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 op 92 has to be one of my favorite pieces.
To be honest I was exepcting the video to just be in this circle of the community but wow am I suprised and I guess happy it's gotten this amount of exposure.
Even when I was a naive dumbass kid (still am) I just enjoyed hearing Leafy speak about some topics. When I watched the Content Cop I was confused on why this man called iDubbz placed such a significant amount of effort on a chin. I enjoy idubbz now but I'm curious on how an expose video with half of it being a fucking meme opened the gates to stabbing Leafy. I guess it was just the cutthroat game Leafy played, you trust someone then the weasel betrays you.
Ever since the content cop I've wondered what Leafy's next move would be, where he went. I'm glad to hear him doing well.
... Man, now I just feel bad for Leafy. Like, I watched a lot of his videos in the past and whilst they were edgy and mean and condescending, they were always entertaining and he was always such a lively and interesting person. I didnt even really keep up with the YouTube drama back then, I just watched him for his content because he was just some edgy boi like me, almost like a sort of persona for how I viewed myself at the time. I imagine that probably says a lot about me, but aye, he was still human. Cold for sure, but I dont think of him as some frank asshole that doesnt sugarcoat shit. He was very charming and charismatic to the point that i didnt even really give a shit about what his chin looked like until Idubbz pointed it out. Its sucks what happened to him, but at least he left the YouTube scene very well off.
Was amazed with the fact that you collabed with mumkey and your commentary on the mumkey jones rise, fall video was great had a great time watching the video with both of you together. You should collab with him more often.
It seems incredibly silly, but all I can say now is I'm already nostalgic for youtube in 2015-2016. I never watched leafy regularly and I didn't think his content was that great, but he was a much bigger part of that edgier counter-culture at the time than I realized. h3h3, filthy frank, idubbbz, maxmoefoe, and grade a under a included. It may have been the prime era of shit reaction and "prank" channels, and long past the prime of amateur animators and non-corporate youtube, but it was still a more fun place where a counter-culture could actually become somewhat popular under-the-radar. Ever since the mass demonetizations of mid-to-late 2016, the adpocalypse, vine shutting down and the viner invasion of 2017, and countless small youtube tweaks, youtube from 2017 to the present as I write this is a far cry from what it was just a couple years ago. So many people, even some of the most popular youtubers seem kind of burnt out and are just waiting for the next youtube tweak right around the corner that will decimate amateur and passionate creators and promote fake celebrities and sterile TV-like content. With all of that, this has been a fascinating series, Emperor Lemon. I like the direction your channel is going in.
I must say EmpLemon, I really enjoy your form of discussion videos. While the editing style that you have created for yourself is absolutely fascinating and engaging as viewer to watch, for me it is the topics that you choose and the arguments that you bring to the table that I really appreciate. I only recently discovered you, mainly because of your Leafy video, but I can say that your content is one that truly makes the viewer have to think. It's hard to find YouTubers like that today. I have yet to get into your YouTube Poops, as that never really was something that I was into, but watching your other videos where you discuss the creative process behind them made me have a new form of respect for them. With all that said, thanks for making the content that you do and please keep doing what makes you happy. And if I ever stop watching you for any reason in the future, I promise that I will unsubscribe.
It's really interesting to hear about what Calvin was behind LeafyisHere, and it's just kind of sad that we never really got to see that part of him, and likely never will, as from the sounds of it. As even if he has passion for things like esports, he seems to lack any kind of actual creative drive. I think it'd be far more likely that he'd do something more along the lines of founding his own esports team or sponsoring events (after all, he has the money to do it), I just don't see him ever making videos unless he really gets a feel for it.
You don't have to worry about your videos being censored because I have at least 1 YouTube Geographic and 1 YTP Collab recommended to me wherever I go on YouTube
I feel like I can completely relate to leafy, not on his thoughts but on the kid of person he is. I'd like to meet him if I could, and have a nice conversation about science
Also, I feel like leafy leaving YouTube was like when Tywin died in Game of thrones. The Tyrell's and Sparrows took over
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It was the perfect coverup as content cop came out... That was a great video emp
I like in depth videos. I watched this video over 3 or more sittings for one reason or another. I would just come back and see more. I like videos this long
We don't feel bad for him in regards to his financial status but more so about how much he was slandered and shit on for playing the YouTube game. He made questionable decisions, but like both Clown and Tommy said, many others criticizing him were just as bad if not worse.
You can look at Logan Paul and Jake Paul, both of which are around Leafy's age and are extremely popular online entertainers averaging millions of views a video much like Leafy was, and you can make the comparison and see how minuscule Leafy's mistakes and content flaws were compared to the Paul's.
I hope he returns as himself, the witty, intelligent, entrepreneur that Tommy described.
Yeah he talks about how he likes to get befriend people despite the negative reception, he gets along with a lot of people, I mean just look at the newer guests on DP they're from all over the place
Also, I’m starting to see a multitude of videos like this Leafy Documentary showing up recently. Emp, I think you have started a new genre, and it’s growing FAST.
I recently discovered your channel through your leafy video and watched a bunch of them I personally loved the meme theory on Donald trump and personally I love the length of your videos
While it definitely looks like Youtube censored Leafy, I'm still not clear on why that's a bad thing. He was a cancer on this website and his videos did nothing but bolster the little angry shitsters who watched his videos and told people to kill themselves over nothing. All this ironically cringy "cringe culture" was almost kickstarted by Leafy like you said in the original video, and that's certainly not a good thing.
Handwaving all that by claiming Leafy's content is just "mature, non-typical Youtube content that the big bad Youtube execs don't want" is some dissonant bullshit. Plenty of other content creators make mature content and do perfectly fine because - and I want you to say it with me - they aren't making fame and fortune from bullying.
And EmpLemon, in doing this, your video appeals less to those who would like to be wary of censorship and more to those who don't see any of Leafy's wrongdoings as wrongdoings. Plenty of people here would like to throw the word "snowflake" around because bullying content appeals to whatever fucked-up insecurities they carry around and they don't like seeing their favorite medium tampered with by those who would like to discourage the indecency Leafy stirred up.
I have lost so much faith in Youtube over the years and how it’s run and the ppl gaining major popularity cough Logan. But there are still some good youtubers who make good content and you Emplemon actually expose the bullshit that screwed others like leafy over the years. These fucking normies...
It's so satisfying to finally get a sense of closure as to what happened to the guy. I'm just glad the poor bastard didn't off himself after the Autistic drama bandwagon
I was still a leafy fanboy through the content cop and even through the nick cash stuff (mostly because I was twelve) so I didn’t develop a massive hatred for leafy. I actually think I only started forming a negative opinion of him in the summer of 2017. But this video has really turned me around to now having a positive opinion of him. He was just a guy who got in over his head and let the fame get to him. I feel like this hate bandwagon give people a false vision of what leafy is actually like. I’m not defending leafys past actions, (a lot of them seemed to be to help his views and subs rise) but I am saying that I feel like leafy got way more hate than he deserved even though he still deserved some hate. Most people see leafy as a scumbag who bullied children and used people and was thrown by idubbbz Into a fumbling downward spiral. But that’s not the way I see it like I said. He’s more interesting than that and I’d love to see what he would do if he ever returned. I think back then I was jsut being fed information that I never fully understood because I was younger (I’m only 14 now but I’m still older). So to end this I guess I can say that the internet has a really skewed way of looking at him and it’s one I dislike.
Im going to be interested if leafy sees emps videos and his friends words and decides to come back. Idubbbz is publically credited for killing leafy, emplemon could be credited for reviving him lmao
I’ve seen a difference in how your videos are being just now recommend to me. Before your videos would be rarely to never recommend now there quite a bit more. So what I think is yt is trying to cover up the censorship that was originally intended for you and other content creators.
I discovered your channel through Behind the Meme (I did see the Uncredibles before, but I never paid attention to your channel at the time). The LeafyisHere video was your next million view video. I feel like if you talk about any infamous YouTuber for drama, Montizon is pleased.
But in all seriousness, I absolutely loved your Leafy video and congratulations for the new 50k subs from the video. Hope the YouTube Geographic series continues.
Something that I think SHOULD have been mentioned here was that simply put, Leafy was an enigma of an enigma. He wasn't like meiAIDS with his posting but he also wasn't like Pewdiepie in his shifts (in terms of success). Calvin simply put, kind of became a YouTube anomaly like the Neutral Stance video. For all intents and purposes, there was little reason WHY he should've gotten as far as he did but somehow he managed to create such a warpath and practically brought in a new age of drama channels and the side genre of reviewing things from the sidelines, may it be for games or for Youtube itself (Much like you yourself Emp). In the end, I don't think that we will EVER truly know what happened to Calvin because we cannot be inside his head. Add that in with sociopathic behaviors and so on and we now have an even bigger anomaly on our hands. I think that this video however (along with the past Geographic), really explained a lot about Calvin in a different perspective and that in a way, he was a metaphorical explosion. He was bright, loud and jaw dropping but just as suddenly as he came, he left without a single trace. And in a way, that's a kind of beauty that few can pull off.
there is an easier way than watch time to gauge content quality, it is called view duration, as in how much of the video was viewed not how long. Sure one second videos would blow up but the algorithim was abused when the lets players exploded and then the reactors exploded.
Don’t listen to anyone when they say to make the videos shorter. The long videos can be so entertaining and interesting and I just can’t understand how people don’t bother to stick around
i found your channel a few years back, but forgot about it for a while and then i re-found you like last month, and here we are. nice to see you again friend.
I'd really like to see him come back in the new way that Tommy C talked about. I was a big fan of him back in the day. Leafy, Pyrocinical, and some others like Grade to a lesser extent in the commentary community, helped me a little when I was at the beginning of a very dark and depressing time in my life that even two, three years later is still somewhat with me today. I've been through a lot of shit with family, other close people I see as family and all sorts of situations and thoughts prompting me to often want suicide. I was literally having a real life mental downward spiral, but these guys were there to make me laugh and make my day at least a bit lighter. so I wouldn't want anyone in the commentary scene to just disappear like that. There was a drop-off point however (I think December 2016 in my personal feeling) the commentary community really hit an extreme low in how repetitive, boring and tired it felt. Things just weren't as great as they were the year before. Just remembering watching a Leafy video or a Pyrocinical video in early 2016 gives me such nostalgic vibes and sometimes I go back to look at them. You could definitely tell the magic had depleted by the end of the year sadly. I'm open to seeing a different side of Calvin. One that makes more insightful content and doesn't just wear out the type of content he's producing.
Hey Emp! you probably won't see this, as i'll be drowned in a wave of comments soon, but i've been around since the older days of spongebob poops and such, and I want to say no matter what way your channel goes, I will always support you! Unless you turn into Buzzfeed.
This might be really unpopular but I feel that YouTube's inside job against Leafy was perfectly justified. Just like you mentioned in your YouTube Geographic, there's no way videos with Leafy's format should have been so popular, yet they were. I assume YouTube must have tolerated him up to the point with Tommy's incident and H3H3's incident.
YouTube as a corporation makes a lot of shitty decisions, but I'd be on board with burying someone who has low-effort videos that only serve to punch down, making fun of other content creators and casual users who didn't have the same following and influence as them.
You know after watching the Leafywashere geographic over and over plus watching this made me curious too if Leafy's subs subbed to you and if so what are their thoughts after seeing your Leafywashere geographic and hearing your thoughts of what you said about YouTube blackballing him and how you feel after this site has change really rarely with their algorithm and context and what not.
emp lemon is the dankest youtube of memetown, he's content is like looking at the remnants of an ancient civilization. back when youtube content wasn't as main stream, and was the freshest source of original content on the planet. praise key and all the meme gods of the inter web long live the emp of lemons.
I will admit at one point of time I did enjoy Leafy's content but I did loose interest over time and forgot about him until the Content Cop episode. That's just my personal experience.
Damn... Calvin sounds like a person I'd really want to have a conversation with ::::/ let that fucking sink in, L e a f y, holy shit. I felt very comfortable when Tommy C spoke, he sounded very mature (should have asked him about the chin meme). Thank you for the one hour vid, it is very appreciated (::::B
Damm, that colossal testemony was weird. This is a case where its more and more interesting the more we go down the rabbit hole. I see leafy more a gamer than most gaming channels, and looks like youtube was just an other tycoon game for him. He has extreme charisma,and if he wouldnt do the kids stuff he would be still here. And the drama he generated was way way way enjoyable than these paul and paul clone ones. He milked this shit, and he has the audience to milk it again.
I don't really know why but this video left me strangely sad. Maybe it's because Calvin has helped through a very difficult time in my life and when I got home from another shitty ass day and got the notification that he uploaded a video idk it just made everything bearable. Hearing that he didn't/doesn't care about his fanbase is kinda hard although I know that I don't know him personally, never did and never will, his online persona rlly meant a lot to me at some point in my life. Super glad to hear that he's alright and happy with his life, his girlfriend and his time on YouTube. Maybe he'll upload another video, maybe he won't, either way I wish him all the best.
1) What would it take for someone to buy YouTube, if possible?
2) If it is possible to buy YouTube, is there a chance that a collaborative kickstarter by YouTubers and members of the community could potentially raise enough money over time to buy the site?
what an insight to be honest I was on the bandwagon on hating him but deep inside i know he was a good guy. I was actually watching him before he stopped after people left his channel. His content was the same at least he isn't making drama anymore. to be honest I was hating on him until I realized most commentary channels are kind of sound the same. I kind of search for more commentary channels and surprisingly I found better commentary channel that have like 10k subscribers. I personally find some of them better than the ones that have over 200k subs. The most underrated youtuber imo is therandomshark. I was a fan of leafy and after the hate on him died down I became a fan again but sadly it was the time when he was burnt out of youtube and left without even telling us. His content might not be good for other but to me he was the most genuine youtuber than the commentary channels now especially before he blew up. I was sub to him before he hit 100k and at a time my youtube acc was different I kind of forgot the password and user. At that time I think his content was 100 miles better than the ones he made on kids. At the time he had passion on his content. He was genuine and at that that the time he seems like he was enjoying telling stories to us. I was a sub before he started drama and I'm still subbed till this day. After his downfall and people thought he was the devil scum and I was on that bandwagon but I didn't hate him like others did. I knew he was a good guy I just think he just made a huge fucked up mistake. He did started as a guy who's like every other average person and ended as one of us. I'm sad that the mistake he made ruined him and some of his fans then never gave him a chance to redeem himself. I kinda miss him and want him back. Thanks for reading..
I’m not sure if anyone noticed but I think he had a rage moment in the background gameplay at 13:49 because he somehow didn’t win the round and after that loss the gameplay quality really dropped down for that game😂
yeah i heard, he was once a minecraft youtuber, until he made a video about google, and since then, he got more views from hating other, and lost side of what he was before, idubbbz made a video, he prove that he can hate other, but not hate himself, quite ironic it really was
This almost made me cry, leafy was just a guy making videos on youtube, sad what happened to him. (I know another comment already said this) but can we get one more "hissss"
I remember I was a subscriber to Leafy minutes before he hit his peak. I found that odd circle of YouTubers who’d hit their blow up point and then all of a sudden just go for racing others throats. It was 2016 and I actually came back to YouTube after being off it for a few years thinking it was just some kiddie website, I come back to find it was more than that but to also see it’s changed into the monopoly it would eventually become. I found interest in Luna, Leafy, Pyrocynical, HWYM, Dramaalert, NFKRZ, Colossaliscrazy, and Grade A Under A, Idddubz, Jameskii I like many others got caught up in that stupid ass beef shit between Leafy and the dog fucker, the goth dude, and all the others who got on DramaAlert. Soon everyone else was in on the Leafy hate train. I didn’t leave because of the Idddubz Content Cop I left because of the stale content. I left Dramaalert because I realized it’s not worth my time. HWYM called out Luna on shit I can’t even remember but it was stupid so I ended up just leaving both of them. It’s weird, sitting in 2018, just sitting here looking at all those who managed to change up their content and survive. Idddubz isn’t very active, Pyrocynical is just a wild card, and Colossal and Grade A are pretty much gone. It’s weird seeing how some channels like Luna still seem to survive while being almost identical to their old selves. All the drama is just fabricated now, what’s this site become? Vloggers, politics, and click bait, back then it was more Creator friendly when it came to artists and animations. But that’s just the cycle. Make money on the newest trend -> kill your old assets that aren’t worth what they used to be -> and repeat. I feel like YouTube has become the mainstream entertainment industry, it just shows the true greed and demon in all of us.
27:42 they could do it because enough of the commentary community hated leafy so they believed nobody would really care. even a lot of leafy's fanbase didn't like him that much so it would look natural if a channel that got millions of views a video suddenly started getting ~400k-700k views a video and nobody would really seem to care.
I just subbed and came from your leafy video, the only reason I knew about your leafy video is because someone mentioned in a video saying how great it was, I can't remember who... But I'm glad I took the time to search your channel!
To confirm your paranoia, I have every way to see the notification of you posting a video, yet I hadn't even seen this until I was 2 hours in, watching other gaming videos that weren't even commentaries, and this wasn't even in the recommended section.
I think one should take care when questioning every official statement from an organization. Not that I disagree that YouTube probably almost always has ulterior, less attractive motives behind many of their decisions. It's just not good to default to disbelief. Try rather, to default to non-belief, or not-knowing. Yes, question, "does this hold up? Could something else explain this?" But do not automatically say "this must be a lie! What possibly could their ulterior motives be?"
woah! i am personally good friends with "sdx darkus"! its crazy that wonderful bastard actually made it on an emplemon video!!
edit: tbh i wouldent mind a return from leafy. he made alot of wrong turns, but i think that he was a decent enough person, and i would be more then willing to give him another chance! at the very least it would be interesting
Dude you put a lot of effort into a video and it showed. Well done, it was good, it deserves a surge in subs. However, this video just feels like a weird ego trip. You didn't do anything new or innovative but you did do something very well and to a high standard. Just chill man, keep putting in effort and don't let it go to your head.
I have actually been getting my notification bell undone on numerous channels, including this one without me doing anything, and subsequently I've been missing a lot of their/ your videos
I find it interesting how you describe YouTube as corrupt for censoring toxic producers. Then you immediately proceeded to blame YouTube for creating these toxic people. Leafy could have easily cleaned up his act and maintained his viewership/visibility but he chose not to conform to YouTube's paradigm. I don't understand how you can blame YouTube for this
I have a moderately short attention span, but EmpLemon could hold it for hours on end. <3 Also yea, after working my first job for only just a year now, I can say that I was a worse person beforehand, and that is mostly from my understanding of how to treat other people (and myself ;/ ) is much better now. Even if I still get super stressed and fuck up sometimes hahaha. At least I know how to disable downward spirals in my brain and be non-toxic.
Shit im so glad I watched this it changed my mind even more than the geographic. After being one of his fans at 10 years old this all fascinates me wildly and brings back nostalgia.
I still remember playing minecraft with his rants going on in the backround xD
Ps. I am literally a baby in this situation I'm twelve
just watched the whole video, u suck at the flash games (ecks dee) however i did find the whole video entretaining and did help me see leafy in a new light personally i didn't watch this whole drama unfold, but i was aware of it so i saw leafy as a "evil sociopath" like many others
anyway thank you for making a great video (yet again) and thank you for knowing how to make real, good content.
I think I might be misunderstanding you but forming a narrative and then finding evidence to support it is a piss poor way to research things. I’m pretty sure that is how we get things like yellow journalism and pseudo-science.
Let me just say that you're leafy Youtube Geographic video is the absolute best video I have ever seen on this website. In fact, this type of video has been making me think about my channel and how I can actually make great content that connect to others in a way I can tell it. It reminds me of the time when I watched a music video about Cedar Point the best amusement park that I've ever visited up to this point. I remember how it got my attention and inspired me to go to Cedar Point for the very first time. Frankly great videos like these I rarely found on a website like YouTube but when they do come out, they leave the best impressions on people and creators like myself. In that regard I'd like to shift my continent so that I spend time developing my own craft, style, and personal unique voice to YouTube instead of making weekly videos that are nowhere near as good as something that I would consider to be a great work. Your channel is a great inspiration for me to find ways to create my own voice on YouTube and while my content currently isn't up to my own standards most of the time, there are glimpses of creativity where my distinct voice can be heard. The most creative video I've done is a music video about Kentucky Kingdom amusement park that has the some of the best roller coasters I've ever been on. I had a lot of fun with this video and in retrospect I'd like to make more of those videos for my channel and spend some more time just being a Down to Earth person sharing my experiences and life lessons. Thank you Emplemon for all that you do on your Channel. I eagerly look forward to your next project.
Princess Applestrach yeah lmao I couldn't get it off the top spot in my most recommended for a few weeks even after watching it and telling YouTube I already watched it or I wasn't interested. Emp is a genius
It's kinda funny, I remember discovering your "UNcredibles" YTPs about a year ago, and thinking they were hilarious, but it was kind of sloshed in with other meme videos, and I didn't really think of your channel as anything more than that, so I went along and sort of ignored you. But then I discovered the leafy video, and I saw your channel name, and I was like "Is this the same guy that made the incredibles YTP?" And sure enough you were lol. It's kinda funny how your content has changed so drastically. A lot of youtube channels don't change at all.
Do a YouTube Geographic on the toontown ranting/hacking community of 2012-2016, the toontown community is not relevant at all but if you research enough it is VERY interesting with lots of drama, it is worth researching. If you do research this, there are a few channels and videos that are worth watching for the research.
For me YouTube revolves around metal, guitars, guns, and cars. Also PewDiePie other channels that make politically incorrect content or what I call logical. In music and especially the hardcore scene you have celebs now trying to cash in on reviewing gear. This is a big threat to the common man. Many of the celebs hold brand deals simply for the money. Now I’m ok with actual musicians who have brand deals and stuff like that but they have brand deals cause it’s the gear they like. These “other” kinds of “musicians” are simply being paid to say whatever. Gun channels and historical channels are also facing massive censorship of course with how PC YouTube is. But in the end half of the stuff I watch isn’t at threat as it’s “family friendly” somewhat but at least it’s not getting censored.
The Leafy video is just something that you can't stop watching in the middle no matter what kind of attention span you have.
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Just Relax2018-07-20 04:12:54 (edited 2018-08-01 19:41:54 )
Honestly, Here’s a question what’s your thoughts on this GROUP and how they effected Leafy and his rep IdubbzTV, Keemstar, RiceGun, jake paul, Logan paul if Leafyishere was still here.
My theory is your channel sort of got struck with the indirect intention of YouTube. I think that YouTube targets one big channel and adjusts the algorithm to get rid of that channel. Channels that have similarities to the struck channel will also get affected by the change, but just not that much because the focus wasnt directly on the affecred channel.
I think channel isnt a word anymore after how many times I have repeated it. lol
You asked if anyone saw a leafy video in their recommended recently. And funny enough i saw one after i watched your initial video on this subject. Haven't seen those in months so kinda weird. Really Nice interviews btw gave some good insight to all this mysteriousness
I used to watch Leafy's minecraft pvp videos before he was popular but got tired of it and stopped. Years later i stumbled across his channel once more when he had a few hundred thousand subscribers and struggled to believe it was the same person. That was after he wiped all the minecraft content but i saw it all on the Way Back Machine. Just like before i grew tired of the repetative videos and stopped watching again, occasionally dropping by now and again to see what he was doing. One day i went on his channel for the first time in a while and watched his most recent video which just so happened to be the tommync2010 video before it got deleted. The whole H3H3 thing happened and i watched it all but after a while i stopped watching leafy for good and assumed it was Content Cop that ended leafy like everyone else. I've been subscribed for you for a while and never expected to see anything new about leafy but your video on him was so great and i think it was better that it was uploaded way after it all happened.
Honesty, I’m surprised your Jimmy Kimmel video didn’t make you bigger. The points you made in that video were used by news outlets a week after it was released.
... probably one of the starting YouTubers most feared things is that the videos is just background noise, not interesting enough for the full attention, nor it's bad enough to find a better alternative, so brings up the dilemma, do you water down the content for the daily views and constant sub growth and constant exposure? Or will you make a more "rewatchable" video that isn't going to be spotted until a few months into the future?
QUESTION FOR EMPLEMON!: Don't you agree this over emphasis on child friendly content makes YouTube more suseptable to these Logan Paul incidents. You know with these hoards of kids on the site who don't question their YouTuber. They pray to their holy god and when he fucks up because of the over inflation of their channel and how perfect they are. These kids only make it worse. So do you agree that this kids content only makes it worse?
But I did really love your Leafy video. Your format is really good and it kept me hooked all the way through. You do really good, and the YouTube gods rewarded you "For Now." Also yeah I never got your videos in my sub box until you stopped lampooning YouTube. Like when the Crisis was over. Like a week or so after the Jake Paul incident. Either when you stopped or started. But for a while I wasn't seeing them. And I figured you were working on something big so I ignored it. Until I saw videos and watched them anyways and then I saw them in my Sub Feed again.
13:35 lmao! That's my home phone ringtone! I knew it was from some symphony. That's actually funny af. Does anyone know which one. Cos I can't find it in the pastebin.
Regarding GradeAUnderA, it wasn't him being a target channel that killed him. The straw that broke the camel's back was when he had his diva tantrum over at his subreddit, which he subsequently posted everywhere. His entire subreddit actually turned against him. This was also at the same time that he decided to stop posting videos, and keep claiming he'd come back "eventually".
I wonder what collosal is crazy was talking about when he said how stupid it was that some people need to be told what's good and not good He was talking about Idubbbz fans who left others channels just because Idubbbz said they weren't good
Damn, can't tell if it's the sappy music behind Tommy C's commentary, but I'm super liking leafy as a person right now and want him back, or at least to hear him talk about things he's genuinely interested in.
I'm sick of the pearl-clutching for Leafy's children videos. ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL TO ATTACK CONTENT FROM A KID. We bully everyone on YT but kids are off limits!
Hey man you should do a YouTube Grographic on Filthy Frank since he officially state he was done being Frank and he has been on YouTube for a pretty long time and was very popular it would be an interesting topic to dive into the timeline of his career and to see how that's effect the music he makes now as joji
Youtube annoys me in its approach to the algorithm. They constantly say they want another strange genre like gaming to appear again when they fail to see that gaming was the most unstable genre on the platform. It is now nearly impossible to become a lets player and they are seen as a joke. you don't want another genre that is like gaming.
Thinking of how leafy would have dealt with the Paul’s, is kind of like thinking how would the governor deal with neagon (walking dead reference). A better example is like how would hitler deal with a current North Korea.
Now I want to know the real Calvin, or at least see what his future endeavors will hold. By the way it sounds, he has a lot of money to burn on business that may never be successful while still supporting his lifestyle, and I respect him now a lot more than I did back in 2016. Great video! I’d like more of this podcast-like content if it means more emplemon. Of course, not at a great cost of other videos’ quality
there are old streams on the internet of just him in skype calls with other youtubers like keem, billy the fridge, clown and so on and it's true that he was always much more interesting just talking and being himself rather than his rushed out repetitive videos
“Is 20 bucks okay?” no because I put “effort” into the intro(and I really want some of those thousand dollar notes) now that I think back on that black hood guys rant, I see just how stupid it is now. I’m still really stupid.
I got weirdly invested in that balloon popping game, also vids are finally back in my recs as soon as I unsubbed For some unknown reason if I sub to someone youtube will just stop showing any vids they make in my rec
Emplemond make a video about Justin y,hmm yes interesting,stickmaster, lemmons, and all these commenters who re appear on many videos we watch in top comment!
Colossal is a bit of a hypocrite. Going from being on the Keemstar hate train himself calling him a "rat" at several occasions, to more saying the hare against keem was bad...
the video for me was pretty good at explaining the rise and fall of leafy and how it happened. I used to be a leafy fan, and just tbh, I wish He's still around. MoStLy BeCaUsE hE wAs E d G y !
Soft Dad Leon2018-11-23 17:44:23 (edited 2018-11-23 17:44:40 )
I wasn't a Leafy fan when he was big. I had friends that were, and I didn't hate him, but I didn't really have an opinion. I watched your first video on his fall from power and it intrigued me. I had only seen the content cop side of the story. So I looked in to Leafy's channel. And I absolutely fell in love with his content. It reawakened my 13 year old edgy self, and despite the obvious flaws in his videos (that Idubbbz was absolutely correct about) I still found them enjoyable. And now that he's gone, things are too soft. There's no cynical, edgy humour anymore. And even though I was never there during his big days, it's almost like I miss him. It's good on him for fleeing from the ever more toxic YouTube community, but now.. It seems like he's the hero we need. Without him it's all soft. Commentary is too careful. If he had just accepted Idubbbz's criticisms he could still be here and better than ever. I guess, on YouTube, there's not really a happy ending for anyone though. So many people are leaving and suffering. Corporations are overriding over the people who used to run this website and their livelihoods are being trampled all over. Hell, Pewdiepie is about to lose his spot. It's all celebrities and fake douchebags now. There's really not many genuine people here anymore.
Calvin, wherever you are, I hope you are well. We miss you.
Do a YouTube Geographic on the toontown ranting/hacking community of 2012-2016, the toontown community is not relevant at all but if you research enough it is VERY interesting with lots of drama, it is worth researching. If you do research this, there are a few channels and videos that are worth watching for the research.
In a recent livestream billythefridge was asked about leafy and what happened to him billy said that leafy is alive and well , he and billy still talk but not as much as leafy and billy according to billy leafy and grade talk everyday and if I'm remebering correctly he said leafy has no plans to return to youtube in the stream billy even tried to call him through skype but he did not pick up as it was about 1 am in California so as you may have guessed he didn't pick up and that's pretty much the only info that was there in the livestream
Do you think another reason for for leafy's downfall could have been that maybe just maybe that another reason why he fell is because his friends weren't there to help him because he made too many enemies just like you said in your video about leafy his rise and fall to feign and how his Empire Came Crashing Down on top of him
Tommy c honestly just wants attention, I'm not on a hate bandwagon, but the only reason he was on the first baited was because he needed money, and they let him on, and his greed and need for attention made keemstar drive him away. To me, this seems like he fabricated his whole story on leafy, because why would leafy contact Tommy and not his friends DAYS after a video on leafy came out. A total cry for attention in my book.
Hey Emp, I recently found out something about FilthyFrank that is quite a revelation. In thinking of making a video with just the facts, but honestly Im a bit scared of DDOSing and doxing... could you try getting ahold of me so I can tell you a bit more about this and hopefully we can both get some new insight through what Ive found with the statistics...
AcanofSoup the main answer to that question is that Im a bit worried that the fanbase of Joji would DDOS and Dox because of the fact that Ive found out that the so called health issues have nothing to do with fikthyfrank but because of a different well known problem he has
Ok so you're afraid of filthy frank fans of all people to try and ddos and/or dox Frank based off of their be another reason as to why he quit frank which reakky is just technically a well known problem? You're giving people too much credit here.
So I wanted to see if the suppression system was still active on leafy's channel. So I started watching his old vids, probably five, (and you can test this) and his videos started popping up in my recommended again. yeah theyre all a year old but it seems recommendation is allowing him again. although his direct search still shows obvious signs of tampering.
Open comment to all YouTube users/commenters, regarding me having to use my frizzled brain to figure out who is responding to who in the comments - Stop changing your damn channel names! Create a new channel! You know who you are!
If leafy ever does come back I think it will be with an apology to people (ie keemstar h3h3 even idubbbz) but I don't think he will do everyday videos. love the guy
Youtube should have a constitution similar to the united states' where the govt cant really meddle with random channels when they're in a tight spot. Instead, they should have checks and balances in them kind of like govt. this way, they dont just abuse and demonitize channels at random...not exactly sure how it works, but it would be a cool idea. Right now im learning in school about how the most relevant form of US govt was formed and how it works. This is the main reason behind my suggestion. P.S. take my coment with a grain of salt about the size of a B+ average kid in middle school.
Leafy said himself that he doesn't plan on coming back and hardly watches YouTube. He's now doing stock market trading with his money Edit: he did an interview with keemstar
Amber Jones he was fun to watch, but I got tired of him and the drama after a while. But I did genuinely enjoy him and felt really bad for him for what he endured. Him coming back would be like an old show getting renewed after 10 years
To get off topic for a sec: Have you ever seen the YTPer Geibuchan? I'm not sure how popular he is and/or was, but damn is his shit good. Even when held to the TYP's you see nowadays.
Recently, he did come back from the dead (Kinda), so maybe you could make a video documenting his works? I dunno. I figured it'd be kinda cool.
I have a feeling that these videos will cause the topic of leafy to become popular, then he'll make an official comment about it or he'll come back as a new person
Leafy was simply an opportunist, and with opportunists, they take risks, they play the odds, they gamble against the system. Leafy played the system too well and his channel suffered indefinitely from it.
I think you have a problem with length when it takes 20 minutes to explain why the video is so long. There's really no need for that much subtext. I'm all for positivity towards content creators but there was no need for this to be as long as it is, the same thing was said over and over again without adding much at all. Quality over quantity mate.
I actually like Leafy, but I unsubbed from both him and Grade because they backstabbed Keem, another person who I honestly don't think is that bad, I unsubbed because I strongly disagreed with what they were doing and would have re-subbed if they acknowledged that they were cunts there and made an apology.
These videos have made me look at Leafy in a different light though.
I probably gave you like 50k of those views lol I kept having other things pop up while trying to watch "Leafy Was Here" it seemed like every time I sat down to watch it something came up
Tbh, I relate to Leafy's situation. I mean, I still make videos, but how Colossal and Tommy talked about him are the same ways people talk about me. But we both tried to suppress ourselves to appease the infant form of Montezon. However, the difference between me and Leafy is that eventually I saw what I was doing wrong, and changed my content, but Leafy continued his cancerous commentary cyber-bullying content. In the end, I've hit the 100 sub mark (small channel milestone), but Leafy still is getting negative on Social Blade, even though he doesn't even do anything anymore.
Hey emplemon just wondering when are u going to do a yt geographic on STAR_ the man who went from an extremely popular tf2 youtuber to a dead overwatch channel I remember you referenced it in the leafy vid
im pretty sure gradeaundera said that he got really depressed and stopped making videos, so im guessing that people just unsubbed coz he was probably never going to upload again.
Leafy is like the Hitler of youtube. Someone who did terrible things, but had a very unique/interesting/questionable success. Enough success to make it into the book of history.
i personally hope he comes back because he was a cool dude and he just spoke his opinion on things and people and could make me laugh, i dont think he was greedy like colossal is crazy said or that he didn't care about his fans, i mean but maybe i don't believe that because i actually liked him and i'm being a bit biased but yeah i hope he comes back as calvin and starts to find what he's actually passionate about and make videos on that because i'm pretty sure that would probably get him more views, just being himself and sure the youtube algarilium isnt the same but it isnt just fucking up for just him many other youtubers have to deal with it to but people bounce back, and he can to i just wish he'd find that reason on why he started youtube to begin with and run the rest of his youtube carreer on that like i plan on doing and not let yotube burst his tiny white bubble. but yeah ik my comment is prob not gonna be seen by tommy c but if you have contact with him, tell him to tell leafy to come tf back because we miss him and his funny entertaining videos. like seriously he could come back as like ''calvin the cucksucker'' and i'd still watch him or just plain ''calvin'' idc i just want more videos from him. cause like i said before he's a cool ass dude and i think he should right that book he was planning to write about kids. i just want him to do what makes him happy. and if by chance yotube doesnt get him off anymore he can at the very least make one last video exsplaining everything and why he left and will stay gone (if he decides to) srry for the long comment
Coming Up Next: GradeAUnderGrave Also R.I.P GradeAUnderA 2014 - 2018 Only 5 or 4 years.. Your words of greatness "It's cool mate". This comment is in honor of Grade because of how awesome his videos were. Hopefully, He will be back in 2020.
The only other youtuber who shares the same theory about leafy, that I've seen at least, is TheGamerFromMars. A guy who makes the most bland, unoriginal, boring content managed to notice this before a lot of us. What the hell!
Can someone please tell EmpLemon about VidLii , it’s like old YouTube and I think if we spread it enough we can all migrate their and leave this horrible platform.
5:00, yeah I noticed that, you never showed up, so I checked your channel after some time, only to find out that you posted over 10 videos. Of wich none where in my subsription box or recommended.
Yeah a lot of people still don't dislike him he still has 4.3mil subs , if he returns we the remnants of the old reptilian army shall rise above our past edgery and toxicity and welcome him to form the new reptilian civilization !
I only started watching Leafy around Summer 2016 but I kept watching his videos until 2017. My 13 year old self liked Leafy so much that I watched almost every single video on Leafy's channel.( 58th HISS Division of the reptilian army)
Emp lemon. Another channel was struck with a similar case recently. The chanell doomsday.exe though small now used to be sizable but after he brought light to some stuff his chanell has been on the decline, and has since released a statemen that he is quiting.
If you find it necessary and worth your time, id love if you could do a "youtube" geographic on homestuck. Its a webcomic thats got a lot, and thats all I can really say without going into detail and sounding like a schizo. do me a favor, at least check it out.
Hmm, I'm thinking of the next Geographic being on RiceGum, but it's more of him and his wrong-doings w/ his past, cause they're kind of the same. ( Rice n' Leafy. )
I’ve noticed something about what you are talking about with people being silenced by YouTube. When I made a new account for YouTube cause I got a new computer I wasn’t getting recommended for dunkey even tho I was watching him. I think cause dunkey made a line of videos making fun of new YouTube YouTube made it to where you can’t see his videos any more. Maybe it’s a coincidence but it’s still strange.
LEAFY BRINGS SUBS AND VIEWS LOL. Look at everybody who stabbed him in the back, dissed him, or made videos on him. H3H3, Idubbz, pyrocinical, Elvis the alien, HeyWatchYourMouth, wildSpartans, etc etc... Leafy's fans actually sub to people he mentions, good or bad. Anyway, Tommy C, gamer from mars, and Collossal is Crazy been saying this.
Man, isn’t this ironic. Poor Mumkey. Leafy’s “assasination” by YouTube pales in comparison to how YouTube straight-up murdered Mumkey in broad daylight.
How does a thinking human being refuse to watch a video just because its 50 minutes long? I only see that in a cinema when parents come with their 5 years old kids and they start being bored after 1 hour. How pathetic today's society is...
Ive been subbed for like i think a bit over a year and a half now and i kinda forgot about you because you just never pooped up onto my feed until real recently
Tracy Bowlin no. everyone knows what happened to filthy frank and there's no real entertainment there since Joji made a statement about why he left so there's no fun looking at that. Leafy just vanished one day and no one knew why. That's why that video worked and a filthyfrank video wouldn't.
If he had waited 3 Months and 6 Days Leafy being found by Keemstar would have been uploaded, also Mumkey channel has been Taken Down, wonder when his Geographic will be put up?
hm, looks like tons of youtubers are here, too bad I haven't made a popular youtube channel, I mean why would I ever need that...it sounds like a living hell to manage.
Billy the fridge is a gud friend of leafy and he won’t talk about him on stream without getting paid, can u have him on an interview or some shit cuz he might know something.
Yeah, why is the video 51 minutes? Why not 7 hours, like that one analysis of Pokemon OmegaRuby that almost certainly cropped up in your recommendations box that I've watched three times?
Eh, I don't think he's a total normie. He seems to be aware of a decent amount of dank memes. That may be because he seems to watch a lot of pewdiepie who also brings up dank memes in his vids. What fascinates me about Mr. Beast is that his channel seems very centered on money and giving money away and doing things that require a lot of money. He really flaunts his wealth but in an entertaining way. He doesn't seem that conceited, but it's hard to tell.
I agree with everything that's been said, especially the genius business model aspect. He often even gets regular people off the street or on twitch streams to say 'subscribe to mr. Beast' or 'mr. Beast is the best' after giving them money which really promotes his brand and grows his subscriber base.
I deserve nothing but Catastrophic diseases I think it's part of his messy content to say the least. (which I still enjoy nonetheless, tbh.) Hope Niall brings back the shitty bootleg meme reviews
Jacob Wood One down 100 more to go and some are harder to take down then others. Look at Keemstar or Jake paul. Did way more horrible things and still.
He's using it very intelligently. Most people would buy a Lamborghini, or a giant mansion, and then ending up broke. By not spending a lot of it is a very smart move.
Interesting, but did you hear BillyTheFridge's comments about Leafy recently? He talked about it recently on his live stream. He knows Calvin personally, and his comments made me rethink what happened to Leafy. According to him, Calvin never wanted to be famous. He says Calvin had a set goal. 5 million dollars. Once he had earned that much from Youtube he was leaving regardless. This made me completely rethink the situation. You see...I think that's why Calvin didn't really care about his content being good. He didn't want good, he wanted views and in 2015 he found out how to get views after trying several other things first. See this is why he was fine with his channel being a 20 year old guy "roasting" kids. He didn't care what the content was, because he didn't care about being on Youtube for a long period of time. That's not what he wanted. He wanted to cash a paycheck as fast as he could, and get the hell out. People blame the content cop, blame Youtube, and blame whatever they can think of. Truth is....I think Calvin was much smarter than people give him credit for being. I think his response to the Content Cop was bad on purpose. He was close to his goal, and uploading less and less frequently on purpose as well. He was letting it all fizzle out slowly on purpose, because being famous and staying famous on Youtube was never his goal. Make the money, and get out while the getting is good.
I'd never been sucked into the whole Leafy drama thing, but toxicity and social psychology interest me. I was originally debating if I should subscribe on the grounds of political disagreement, (I confess, I find myself unable to say something positive about Trump, if only because if he does do something positive, I'm going to be skeptical about it because his track record has shown many bigoted, selfish decisions.) I subscribed anyway because your video had a number of opinions that were three months out of date, and since a number of things have happened since then, it would be unfair to judge you based on opinions you might not have anymore. In addition, your analytical skills have proven sharp time and time again, and to lose a possible source of food for thought based on that alone would've been a rather wasteful decision.
It happens usually by luck but some of the best ways to set 2k comments is to find that witty joke and then place it and it the Youtuber doesn't see the comments that can be considered easier because it is a more balanced effort but if the Youtuber does see it then the comment needs to basically follow their sense of humor. Also just be random it helps Hope this helps
18:50 well, surely most people use the internet. Like half of accounts in Youtube don't even have any videos. So just because he is not making videos and commenting everywhere under his old name does not mean anything. So yeah I'm quite sure he uses the internet like everyone else does
The amount of research, work, time, and anything else you put into this video really showed off. This was very worth the hour I spent watching it. Keep doin your shit emplemon. 👍🏻
I really hope leafy comes back. I honestly really enjoyed his videos... Even after his downfall, I still watched all his videos. I miss him, more than anyone else who has left.
Congrats man, also, you shouldnt be surprised you got those views and subs, your vids are very well put together and your memes are hilarious. I think you are going to grow even further.
Yeah dude I love it when you put out long videos (informative and interesting) because I can sit back and relax at night and not have to scour YouTube for interesting content with 50 different 3 minute videos. I get excited when I open up one of your 50-60 minute videos
i loved the leafy youtube geographic and then watched the other geographics... i also just love your ytps in general even the ones that were meant as like jabs at the people that only wanted "usual content". i also just love your editing styles and your roasts of jimmy kimmel and how trump memed his way into office are 2 of my personal favorites along with the leafy geographic. keep making awesome content i cant wait to see me
I really enjoy the longer videos like this. This was very interesting to learn about the whereabouts of that young man, and it seems odd to think that there was a time when he was on top and now there's nothing. I was introduced to your channel a few years ago by the UNcredibles, and that kind of content did not earn my subscription lol. When I watched Leafy Was Here, however, I was surprised to learn that it was by the same guy, and I subbed. You should definitely keep this up.
I do hope scripted work is still a style you enjoy, because they're very interesting dives into topics.
It's understandable that they take quite a while though, and doing an unscripted follow-up. Plus you often mention that, in order to remain relevant and engaged, it helps to change up one's style fairly often.
Wow, really love all of the videos you've been making, and this is coming from someone who's been here since the ye olde days of spingebill poops and the like. Keep it up!
Hey i like your longer videos I hope you keep doing this kind of thing but only if you want because your content is very inspired in my eyes and I hope that your interest in YouTube continues thanks for the fun mate
Thanks Emplemon (and Tommy C),you made me give some sympathy for leafy, at least he is still fine today. This video (the ending part) probably made me feel like I wanted to cry and also with this fitting music. I first discovered you years ago with your great ytps when I was little, but now over the years I saw you changed in 2016/17 with your content. While some people will complain about the watch time or it wasn't frying dory, I think your newer content is amazing (if not better than your ytps). I think this is why you are one of my favorite youtubers. (btw your editing is top notch)
I wish Leafy would comeback to YouTube, and save us from the bore fest that's the commentary community. When leafy and Grade left this site there were no longer any trend setters in this community just barfing the same talk points to other YouTubers mouth till everyone is bored as fuck. With that being said, I really could see him being a twitch streamer if cared about numbers that much. I truly miss 2016.. 2017 was a mistake of year. If it was deleted off this earth that would be just fine by me. I'd like to see EmpLemon and Leafy to do a cross over like when Jontron and Airn did the games grumps thing that was still great time for me. I don't think YouTube will have as much of height as it did in 2016. I think from now on everything will be manufactured at a boardmeeting. And we all have to eat how boring things will become. Yay for recycled boring uninteresting waste of time content.
I love you emperor lemon, I actually wanted to know more about leafy and I always had the itching feeling about his background and all. I really didn't think that content cop was the indefinitely his downfall and when I saw your leafy video (when it came out) it really solved many questions but also raised many more. This video answered many more than it raised and honestly I'm more satisfied now than before that leafy video and I really thank you for presenting such a good informative video. I have watched from the first second to the last second and I do really respect your opinions and views and ways of researching because I share those exact views and opinions 100% (talking about all videos in general btw). You have to be one of my favorite or if not favorite youtuber on this platform for being a realist and just coming up with good content (I was here for your YTP just not subbed because I was really young and I didn't really know how to work youtube). So I just really wanted to say thanks for your hardwork on this video and all of your videos and I do really appreciate you downward spiral crazy man. Keep up the amazing videos and work <3
wow. thats just...wow. i always thought he was some arrogant asshole,as i never had enough of an interest to research him much myself. but now i feel kinda bad for him...
this is such a compelling story. there's so many layers to leafy's channel and so many factors that ultimately lead to his demise. and this whole time i just thought he was a toxic kid on the internet who got shat on for being toxic
Watching these two Leafy videos, I realised something. Me and him are very similar personality-wise. I'm guessing that's why I used to be a big fan of him until he solely just insulted specific individuals.
I'm a newer subscriber and I love your discussion videos. I should go back and watch your ytp's at some point. In fact, some of the ytp-ers that I watch have said that you were one of their inspirations. Props to you.
That testimony is crazy. Leafy is a very interesting fella indeed, or at least his portrayal on this video was. The kind of person that plays the game and fuck the consequences.
I don’t know why but there are few long videos on YouTube that I watch all the way through but with emp lemon, I watch it all the way through because it’s effort and entertaining unlike everything else. Damit they know I’m a kid
I’ve been thinking about that “if Leafy hadn’t died” discussion, and I honestly think if he were still around he would be perfect for the reddit reaction videos that Pyrocynical, Sorrow TV, and similar channels do. Making fun of people on r/niceguys or r/creepypms is pretty much the new roast video imo, and it’s a lot less cancerous because it’s harder to find the person being made fun of.
I can handle 51 minutes of an edited and scripted video, I can't even make 5 minutes into this HOT GARBAGE rambling about a video I've already seen. In my opinion, if you're gonna do unscripted videos, keep it short & fresh.
Just letting you know I’m still here, since you seem to not like what I normally comment. Letting you know I also disagree with several things in this video, like about leafy coming back, and thinking about that time I said YouTube wasn’t hunting you and you disagreed, since you mentioned how you’ve seen the biggest spike in numbers you’ve had. Also, I used to like Mumkey but he dealt way too fucking much with content that wasn’t the core of his channel, so I had to leave. Complained too much and made too little.
Anybody have any idea how I can stop being a normie? I like the way you guys dunked on shia and would like to participate but I can’t figure out how to use websites other than youtube and twitch
What you said in the original video was true "Everyone who was involved with leafy came out on top at the expense of leafy, himself" Even you proffitted from this a year later.
So the naisily meme head we all knew and hated, was actually a fucking 200 IQ Sevant who quit not because of the hate, but because he was bored and lost interest in the game....
Maybe Leafy would've destroyed Jake Paul for the shit he did. Maybe Leafy destroyed SSSniperwolf for lying. Maybe Leafy would destroy Lele Pons for faking a cancer donation. Or any other awful succesful YouTuber. I think he would destroyed a lot of bad channels but also a lot of innocent ones.
Also I forgot if you mentioned it in the last video or I mentioned it but at the time I was starting to think what leafy did was immoral even before anything happened I thought he was too mean and used his power in the wrong ways also I thought of points in the idubbz video but I couldn’t do anything about it because I am small on this platform and risk the chance of his army screaming at me and a lot of hate so I couldn’t do anything I wanted to but I had no power it was the whole website against me and I also thought a lot of points keemstar had wasn’t really valid and old so I again was on the opposing side.So when I saw the video I was relieved to find everyone was with idubbz because they were in the same silent stance or they were 9 year olds who listen the the epic edgelords😎 either way this in my mind was a path for change and betterment I was wrong although leafy wasn’t moral this platform turned horrible worse than when he was here I thought maybe I could go back to 2012 but it’s too late.And after the drama I avoided his channel purposely because I don’t really like hateful content and drama even if I agree so personally I didn’t see the black ball by YouTube.I wanted to say this to put another possibility on why he declined.
30-40 minutes in and I love colossaliscrazy’s statement summarized what I think unless it contradicts what I just said because something’s he said was like I don’t really agree on it.I understand he might not be the best person but the things he did was still scummy and you don’t have to defend him for it he might be a good person but he still did shitty things.
Darth Panda ya but think ove it like this IF leafy comes back and make’s a vid on the Paul’s that vid would get a shot load of views and he would get a shit ton of subs from that and with a shit ton of subs he gets a shit ton of fans back and in turn they would send hate to the Paul’s. I’m not saying he would kill there channels but he would send the a lot of hate
Honestly what Leafy did was pretty bad in some ways. Namely making fun of kids and people with mental deficiencies. Problem is, people still do that and rake in millions of views. And barely anyone has been saying anything about how bad they are. What am I talking about? Two words: Cringe Compilations. Hell, cringe compers can be worse than Leafy. Some, like the art cringe-compers who give constructive criticism, or the people who expose actual cringy behaviors(pedophiles, cyberbullies, celeb stalkers, zoophiles, art thieves, etc.), are good. But many others are art thieves themselves, as in they snatch “cringy” pics and videos off of Deviantart/Youtube and either credit the users, opening them up to witch hunts(even if they warn against harassing the artists) or leave them uncredited, and if it’s videos they’re showing, basically taking that person's video and getting views off of it; or are being cyberbullies themselves.
You should watch the no jumper podcast with Adam22 fouseytube Shane Dawson ice Poseidon keem star Hampton Brandon Sam pepper it was a really crazy one it’s 3 hours long but Fosho a staple in YouTube geography
I do think YouTube tries to take down Rice cause why else would the Rice content cop trending on 1 for 2 days. It was the only video trending for 2 days in the whole history. But they aint attacking his recommendations because hes less of a problem. His community isnt as toxic. Rice attacks others making his fans send Ls. Rice fans more think of haha youre a loser. While leafy fans are mad and think you should die because Leafy gives reasons to hate that person so much while Rice arguments are more disses (not serious) Leafy attacks others and his fans troll, ddos, hack, say death treats, ...
I'm glad you finally got good coverage from Montizon, you really deserve it considering the effort you have put into writing and editing these videos, even though I presume it's a hobby.
Ive been watching you since the Spingebill poops, and honestly the leafy video was one of the best videos you ever made. I have a soft spot in my heart for series like Down The Rabbit Hole and yours that take a dive into subjects that most only scratch. Enjoy your trip through the downwards spiral Emp, i'll be back whenever you upload again
Certainly not for no reason your YouTube Geographic series has blown up as it has— it's fantastic stuff. Some have tried and failed to do similar things, but you're the perfect person to document internet history from an inside perspective like this. Glad to have you around, Emp.
if someone asked what is the primary example for good and highly researched commentary content on youtube i would without hesitation point out 'leafy was here' and this video just to give some more insight. great work man keep it up PS. love from Poland
well then, good thing I just sat down by the fire place with my red wine, because I have a great feeling that this viedo may infact need a rewatch... its interesting becuase your videos emp, are really re watchable, I keep finding myself rewatching many of them on a monthly downward spiral... but infact that shows the quality of your content and how well it will age in time... personally Ive been around when you first did ytps, and ive stayed not only for ytps, but for your new content just like this..what im trying to say is that im glad you exist to grace us with more information, now if you dont mind, I will continue to watch with my full attention. 😍
..It is interesting how much YouTube, and the you tubers inside it can cause a slight downfall that leads to a spiral. And some people don't see that, because they don't watch the full thing, I understand that some people don't have the time, but personally I love your longer vids because they provide more information then the average you tuber that tries to bend that 10:02 min watch time, but the question is what next, you've gone into the study of You tubers in a way, along with "blacklisted channels" from the grasp of YouTube, and even random events like mei aids and neutral response....and one of my favs your high school story...You remind me of https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGLTvOqJOcbIwBtX0Rou2gw (Rags) a content creator who, mainly talks about gaming, but still seems to have the same pull as you, just thought Id point it out.
Its best to understand how you feel about youtube, your life, and personal events ..because in the future it could be how we look back on you, if you change or the downward spiral kicks in for the last time.also is that war thunder music at the 41 min mark?
kind of giggling to myself that the classical music is playing over a stickman riding and shitting in a potty
also emp you should do a podcast, this shit is actually pretty bueno to listen to when walking the dog excs dee
also i fucking LOVE the max headroom downward spiral gif, it would be cool if you could provide a link to that or make a video on max's hack attack from back in the day
I subbed after watching ur leafy vid and vatched most of all of your commentary style videos. I love your channel and your thoughts. Btw fav vid is the senior year story.
I remember posting a cringe compilation on my channel and YouTube gave me shit for it and yet other people do cringe compilations and seemingly nothing happens to them.
There’s a good amount of dirt to warrant a half hour YouTube geographic, check put his livestream breakdowns, he really couldn’t take any criticism whatsoever.
Question, do you think that YouTube is doing the same thing that it did to Leafy to certain Political channels on the site? Do you think that it's possible that YouTube may be helping channels that it agrees with or tolerates politically? Does YouTube buff some channels while nerfing others?
You answered my first question in the video...sorry. I'll keep watching to see if my second question gets answered and if so I'll just delete the comment.
I think going unscripted is a mistake. Your greatest content has been done scripted. I’m excited to see how this turns out, but I think you may lose a bit of nuance in this shift.
In my recommended after watching both your videos and some leafy videos 1. Videos about leafy 2.idubbz video about keemstar 3. MMA videos 4. 2 more of your videos.... I’ve watched only 2 of your videos and it’s recommending me 3 of your videos and I watched about 7 leafy videos and not one recommendation at all I’m pretty sure your right
Hello EmpLemon! I really liked your video about Leafy! So... can I pick up your brain about something? Which tools & websites did you use for data/info research? I am talking specifically about sub gain per months, old videos etc. I just want to make a video about one YTber. P.S. Sorry for bad English. inb4: use SocialBlade dumbass
Yea they take gun videos down but leave videos where people torture animals and stuff them in my recommendations section. Seriously as an animal lover and rights supporter that boils my pea soup. You might not understand how it feel, but to me all those stupid hunting and fishing videos in my recommendations really upset me.
Grade a under a was talking about being depressed. I think he is clinically depressed. Once you are depressed money doesnt matter to you. You stop making yt videos.
Wow the clown shared my sentiments to the fucking last letter. Yes the faults are there and obviously the making videos on the children is very taboo tbh. But leafy is a bit too socially inept to realize the taboo that he was doing.
I also share the same perspective of the “high score” analogy of raking in views tbh
Edit: I wish that the majority of the “leafy hate train” was like tommy c right here. The hate that leafy got is unjust no matter how one looks at it. In fact, you could say that leafy was borderline cancelled as much as zaptie was (without the pedo stuff allegations).
What annoys me is that like yesterday I saw a comment on some random video on youtube saying something like the following "this is the first 33 minute video I have ever watched, you must be a very good creator", like c'mon people, 33 minutes. That is truly disgusting to me. I watch several hours worth of people talking about some random youtuber who I never even watched myself, just because I find it interesting. These people on the internet are so used to the short few minute videos, and then they get mad when the videos are a bit longer, shut up. It is not the creator's fault you can not watch somewhat long ish videos.
It’s true. People don’t have long attention spans. I wish there were more long vidieos these days. But it’s all that work and only three people watch till the end
Wow i am so happy to here he is ok i always knew he wasn't a bad guy that people portay him as he is just a good guy i know he is i mean i may have never talked to him but he deserves better
Kevin Siungdung He demonitizes the innocent and produces Youtube Red shows for the guilty. Not even the children shall be spared from the warm glowing of his warming glow.
Its not hard tho. Everyone could have been leafy. He is boring and unfunny just like 99% of every other youtuber but he made content everyone could have made. We normal people just have a life and a real job
Here in Spain we have one trending hated youtuber called "Dalas Review". He has been called (from very big youtubers) for a lot of bad things that he hasn't done like rape or being abusive with her ex-girlfriends and he is defending himself doing videos constantly. It is true that he's kind of egocentric and a lot of times he lets his anger out and starts insulting those who accuse him and that makes a bad image of himself.
But that's all, I just wanted to say that it is interesting seeing that this events happen all around Youtube.
Ah man, I know what you mean. Though I mean, it's not like Emp is playing composers like Liszt or Scriabin but instead the most popular songs from the big bois. I must say that I never really liked Emperor Lemon's videos, any of them really, until these last two, and certainly not his Youtube Poops which will always be lower-tier entertainment, though they've undeniably helped him in his editing. In this respect this is one of the few channel's that do show promise on this "overly-saturated" Youtube after the disastrous failure of BobbyBurns, whom at one point I genuinely believed was a true innovator
Lol not really, but the topic interests me enough. Maybe he'll one day even appear on this channel, who is definitely a match to handle such a complex channel like that. Much like Emp who has modified his content to remain relevant, Bobby has done so 6 times, each one labeled by him to Bobby 2.0, 3.0, etc. The first of these were like movie reviews, then moving to satire, sketch comedy, then a sort of different style of "Youtube Geographic" in his Exploring the Internet series. His harsh criticism of Shane Dawson though brought him into direct contact with the famed Youtuber, which many believed was going out of relevancy, to a huge surge in popularity to both, culminating in Shane buying Bobby a Jeep and helping him move to LA. Then Bobby 5.0 became essentially a vapid vlog channel after the genuine artistic endeavors of Bobby 4.0. Of course they're no Vivre sa Vie or 8 1/2 as far as "art" goes, but I thought it was quite phenomenal for Youtube. Now just take a look at his recent videos, his supposed 6.0 ones, and tell me they're not trash.
I recommend you watch his video Exploring The Internet: An Audience For Anything, which is a genuinely moving sketch, and you'd be surprised at Bobby's filming, acting, and editing ability, obviously garnered from his time as a Youtube film critic. And still, look how young he still is! Imo it's the culminating of a Youtube channel and it's all been downhill from after 4.0 and many of his fans think so as well
Jeanson 3 yes, it is that low. I don't want to hear the same thing literally being repeated over and over about how Leafy compared to his own channel and how YouTube did all of this when that's half of a game of Overwatch. i'm gonna leave it at that because people in the youtube comments section usually like to fight over stupid stuff
I think it's interesting that both Clown and Tommy both hit on allot of the same points. I would ask how he's "bright" or "intelligent" when he's made so many stupid decisions, but clowns description of "social ineptitude" along with "no life experience" pretty much perfectly explains allot of that.
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Peterscraps oh hey it's Peterscraps! Cool to see you here
6 likesAyyy Peterscraps, love your content. You have good taste in YouTubers.
4 likesactually I had this going in the background whilst editing. usually I listen to music or podcasts.
34 likesIs that Peterscraps in the comments?
2 likesEMPLEMON IS MONTIZON COMFIRMED.
3 likesYou spelled “a lot” wrong in two ways.
2 likesJust watched an hour worth of your tf2 vids
0 likesPeterscraps e
0 likesDude it's the real slim shady
0 likesThat shit hord
0 likesleafy is actually a scout main in tf2
0 likesHis net worth is still 4,000,000. That’s enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life off dividends and interest. He can let that money subsidize an upper middle class life style indefinitely..
1 likeThe part with Tommy C. made me a little emotional. It makes me feel bad that everyone hated leafy so bad and that there will be haters that never see these videos. On the other hand it makes me feel better to know that leafy is doing well and that he put down the game of youtube, and picked up the game of life.
257 likesGodspeed leafy, godspeed.
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Ryan pimley for me it was clown's part I felt a little bit of truth like when you read something and you're like omg this is so true
10 likesok
3 likesI discovered this Channel through your recent Leafy video and end up binge watching all your videos afterwards and there were some seriously great videos (especially the exposés)! I seriously can't wait to see what comes next!
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Enjoy your stay, I know I did
22 likesKyotosomo Welcome to the downward spiral
31 likesOoooh fresh meat
11 likesi can't wait for him to be here
Kyotosomo don't forget to unsubscribe
18 likesWell, I've subscribed some time before the Trump meme theory video, mainly for YTPs, shitposts and well-edited rants... I never expected to see some documentaries like YT Geographic here, but I'm really glad I stuck around.
16 likesI first watched Emplemon back in 2013 before I had a channel. I subbed Emp in late 2017
4 likesI knew about this channel for years
2 likesSame since 2013
2 likesKyotosomo you should watch the YouTube downward spiral video
2 likesI watched it a bunch of times before you all should too
2 likesKyotosomo remember when emperor lemon used to do YouTube poops?
2 likeslol same
1 likeAll his videos? Even the YTP's?
1 likeSame here... going down the downward spiral
1 likePlayerPerPerson Personal Gaming
1 like...What r u talkin bout? Is this sum sort of cis male pansexual stuff i dont understand?
PlayerPerPerson Personal Gaming
2 likesWhat I really like about EmpLemon when it comes to his Youtube criticism is that he provides evidence for all of his arguments. His statements are believable... why alt right?
PlayerPerPerson Personal Gaming
1 likeLOL!!! Didnt even look at that... but that’s rather alt left than alt right? 😂😂😂
I just think politics arent really the issue here... it’s about this site n humanity... i think
2 likesRants are nice and all, but have you tried green simpsons?
2 likesWelcome to the team, stay a while and have some meme juice
1 likeHave you seen “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”
2 likesWelcome to the downward spiral!
0 likes@Kyotosomo why are the simpsons green?
1 likeOne thing I love about you, EmpLemon, is that you make hour long videos feel like 20-30 minutes. Seems that only the better of your fans feel this while the less capable fans just complain. Congrats on the all the praise you got!
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I couldn't said it better myself!
11 likesHis videos are pretty well structured all things considered
1 likeGlad to see a YouTuber like this grow, channels with a history like this one’s are a dying breed.
111 likesBest of luck to not just you, but all small YouTubers who deserve growth.
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Or any who deserve to grow in general
7 likes#shrekawareness
4 likesTop Raw Man #savetheoldies
1 likeGREEN IZ DA BEST BOYZ
0 likesYou there
0 likes#shrekawareness
1 like#savetheclones
0 likesAlso RIP leafyishere, hopefully he will be resurrected.
0 likesThis video- specifically, Tommy's testimony- completely changed my view on Calvin, and the Youtube sphere in general. I've never really been able to relate to any Youtubers, but Tommy's testimony really showed how Youtube is just a community, just like any others you can find on the internet. The only difference is, each member of the community has a large influence on millions of people. But this doesn't prevent things that happen in regular old communities from happening, just now they are also out there to be seen and influence millions of people who aren't really part of the community, and don't understand the semantics because it's on a larger scale. This video shows to me, more than any other possible could, that Youtubers are people. They don't need to do anything. They like this community, but they don't have to like or dislike people, and they don't have to stay or leave. I used to look up to many Youtubers as these ''Larger than life" excellent people that I should strive to be. But now, I just see them as regular people who stumbled across Youtube, and explicably got to be a part of it's smaller circle of people.
535 likesAnd, as for the idea of Calvin writing a book based on his time as a Youtuber, and what he's observed about the effect of fame and fortune on the minds of young people, this is the only time that I have instantly wanted to read something really bad. This sounds amazing, and considering what Tommy and Colossal had to say about what Calvin was really like, I think the book would be insightful and extremely interesting. Based on what I gained from this video, Calvin is higher up than most other Youtubers that I would normally respect infinitely more than him. While many Youtubers treat their experiences at face value, Calvin looks at the entire landscape over the last few years, and understands it, and is now above it.
I don't think I can say that I can have "More Respect" for Calvin now, after this video, but I can definitely say I see him as a completely different person, and I don't push him under the rug at all like I had before.
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I completely agree. Thanks for your opinion.
15 likesThat is exactly what I was thinking after I watched this video. It only made me respect him, and every other YouTuber, more.
2 likesAmen
1 likeI Don't Like Birds - I think the best thing to come out of Emp's Leafy documentaries is exactly what you've laid out here: a much better understanding of the true nature of who Leafy really is, resulting from Emp's genuine effort to diagnose exactly what happened to his channel and why, right down to testimonies and the understanding and analysis of his character. It's amazing to me that we all have a level of empathy for Leafy that none of us would ever have had without these videos, and yet that was never the motivation for making them.
8 likesAfter the first video, I was left with a couple of questions, such as why Leafy never changed his strategy even after literally the whole website turned against him. But after hearing what ColossalIsCrazy and Tommy C had to say, the idea of Leafy being the more entrepreneurial and competitive type makes so much sense. When Tommy was talking about Leafy's attitudes to his channel and success, and how he treated his subscriber count like the score in a game of Pacman, it clicked for me, just like it did for Emp and everyone watching. He didn't care about his content or his earnings, he didn't even care about fame. He wanted to win, and the YouTube Analytics provided an easy and objective way to determine his dominance. It's like why lawyers are so expensive and why sales people live for making money - it's not about the money, its about the number, and who's got the highest. That's it.
All I can hope for is that Leafy learns to appreciate the perks of being humble, honest, and when to be sensitive to how others feel - these things aren't just good for the sake of being respected by more people.
It does give a different, less hostile view of Leafy. He could be more genuine, less toxic, and give something better to YouTube.
3 likesHave u not read his autobiography leaf me alone?
3 likesclown saying that the community were being hypocritical during the leafy hate train took the words out of my mouth, as for tommy, i have heard him talk about his personal experience with leafy before on sftp, but it was nice for him to go into further detail. once again great video!
80 likesEmp Lemon is what YouTube commentary should have been from the start. Analytical, thorough, and above mob mentality. Keep it up friend. I grew up laughing my ass off at your poops and now that I’m older I love your exposés. You’re awesome
94 likesthe part where clown talked about "hating interacting with fans" is what confuses me the most because he always seemed to really enjoy it, especially in 2016. he always made videos featuring their fan art and responding/reacting to it. he even went out of his way to always talk to and reply to them on twitter, way more than most youtubers would. he always seemed to really appreciate the praise and acknowledgement he got from his fans and even made videos catering to what he thought that they wanted to see. maybe colossal is referring to later on in his career, because that doesn't totally make sense to me.
21 likesThat moment when EmpLemon ironically calls himself everyone's favourite Youtuber but he actually is your favourite Youtuber
104 likesWe really took the 2015-2016 era of YouTube for granted. Leafy was right when he said that many of the issues surrounding the platform back then seem insignificant and almost petty compared to what we're facing today. Worst part is, most of the more unsanitized, "edgier" (for lack of a better term) creators either have moved onto bigger and better things, flat out quit, or are so infrequent in video uploads that they may as well be considered retired, so there's no real massive counterculture that exists on here that can serve as an alternate option to the sterilized, manufactured content this site chooses to promote as the best talent they have to offer. All we can really do is observe the YouTube machine, as it has already become too big to stop. The Adpocalypse may be mostly over, but the damage has been left and the unwanted creators have heeded YouTube signals. PewDiePie is one of the sole exclusions to this, mostly because he was already a gargantuan force before he started making less advertiser-friendly content, but even he has become sort of an unwanted bastard child to the people who run YouTube.
14 likesOf course, that doesn't mean that edgy content no longer exists on YouTube, but you're lying to yourself if you think someone like FilthyFrank could obtain even a sliver of the success that they would have had three or four years ago. And it isn't like there's anything encouraging a new breed of creators in the same line of what existed back then, because most everyone is aware that the algorithm will fuck them out of any potential viewership they might obtain. So it's like, why even bother in the first place? In spirit, YouTube is a shallow husk of it's former self, and hardly any genuine personalities exist on here anymore, but I'm sure it is more profitable of a platform now than at any previous point in it's history, so all complaints about the type of content they encourage are likely completely insignificant to them. Good for them, I guess.
Not to say that we lack any inoffensive creators today, but most of them were lucky enough to come up before YouTube started solely dedicating themselves to appeasing advertisers, and once THOSE creators leave or stop uploading then there'll be practically no reason to come here unless you're 12 years old and idolize corporate Hollywood supermodels. All in all, we're fucked.
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muhammad knight usman great comment
0 likesTheory: Leafy is actually EmpLemon
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OBJECTION - emp did a face reveal and he looks completely different
29 likesWooooosh
19 likesLEAFYISEMPLEMON
15 likesAce The Not So Great You just created something on the internet that cannot be taken back.
5 likesWelp, that ain't the first time I did something like that cough fanfics cough
7 likesNoodleBro Emp did a body reveal during his Summer video and he has a chin, so I guess he's not leafy.
9 likesThe Firefan he might have done plastic surgery.
14 likesOH FUCK, GET ON THOSE THIRD TIN FOIL HATS, FOLKS
11 likesThey do sound pretty similar
5 likesshush
1 likeThat’s not a theory
1 like“YouTube would like to know your location”
3 likesHey emplemon came before leafy so I don't know what you're thinking of
0 likesEmpleamon
0 likesBut hey, that's just a theory..
0 likesAhsan Mazhar iiii
0 likesbut that's just a theory...
0 likesA LEMON THEORY!
0 likesChristopher Jackson 😎👍
0 likesSays the one using a WindWaker pfp
0 likesLink its over Tetra is gone
0 likes@Landon Wright Emp was Leafys backup once he made LeafyIsHere. It was his main until then.
1 like"Mumkey Jones hasn't gone on a downward spiral"
131 likesThis particular comment didn't age well.
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But about Leafy's return, that aged well
14 likes@Stefferson Segundo not anymore.
10 likes@Stefferson Segundo lol
2 likeswait what happened?
0 likesScrolled down to look for this comment.
2 likesThe fact that Colossal and Tommy C. stood up to share new info on Leafy in mid 2018 is so bizzarre
6 likesWanna know something funny? since this leafywashere video came out, the first result when you search his channel is his actual channel. before there was no sign of his channel. just leafy related videos... just.. an observation
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That is actually very suspicious. It's good tho.
53 likesStreatBeatsAudio Subwoofers gay
4 likesThey probably forgot to undo that tbh once he left.
18 likesyeetus my depression is deepus your*
1 likeAlso if you watch a few videos of his, they're actually being recommended
3 likesNot anymore.
0 likesCoincedince, I think not!
0 likesAnd now he's back, so them undoing the suppression is them playing themselves because his last two videos are doing very well.
0 likesI hope for Leafy to come back, having learned from his mistakes, with new and improved content and strategies. He reminded me of myself, in many ways, and I truly enjoyed him.
5 likesDoes anyone feel the same way?
Long videos that are full of content and not padded are the best. It feels like a journey
12 likesI hope YouTube doesnt mess with your channel, your content is very mature and in depth. Its refreshing to listen to and it comes from someone who is close to the heart of what we find charming about YouTube :)
16 likesDont make them shorter, longer is better!
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Hello
0 likesMan, I remember playing every single one of those flash games back when we had a windows xp computer .
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HOLY SHIT i never thought you'd be here
3 likesSchool Computer time... Good Times... Good Times
7 likesOMG me too how did you know i played flash games on my windows XP?
1 likeWhat in the fack r u doing here
0 likesWindows 8.1 for me
0 likesn o s t a l g a
0 likesI remember when I used to play games with flash
0 likesnow I use Newgrounds Player
- God tier anon
You can still play many of them on flashpoint.
0 likesJust for the record
yeah. flash games are now reliant on emulators. also if you still are around, welcome back to this video.
0 likesI've never really liked Leafy's content. I still don't. Which is why when the drama went down and Leafy got pasted with all the hate for being backstabbing and duplicitous and other kinds of heinous shit, I was inclined to believe them... even though I've forgotten most of that silly drama. But seeing this reminds me of how overblown most of that youtube drama was, and of how glad I am that it's all over. But this only makes me more upset, because now I'm wondering why someone as talented and intelligent as Leafy appears to be would waste his time on the stuff he made? But I guess it's the Subscriber game, as Tommy C put it. There are things the man did that are indefensible, but I still feel his biggest mistake was just letting himself rely on cheap throwaway content. Because that content breeds a type of fan- and creator-base that tends to be a vector for the type of High-School drama cancer that took him and so many others down. Tommy, if you ever see this, you gotta tell that man that Calvin deserves a lot better than to be remembered as Leafy.
54 likesGradeA don't seem like he'll be any important for a YTG, like Leafy is. However his popularity at that time did set an important standard in my eye. That's you didn't really need to be professional in order to be big. You didn't need fancy high quality equipment to win people over. All he needed was MSPaint, and a laptop microphone. That alone tell me that the little man still had a chance, but only if you're passionate enough to do it. Shame how he's fallen, and very surprised on how he didn't take the blow much worse than Leafy. At least Grade is lucky being forgotten. Leafy is universally hated by majority, and will always be remembered. Sure Grade is too, but you don't really see him being an impact to Youtube history, despite the allegations to keem, and how he treated the reddit mods. Leafy I always felt bad for, but I won't say he wasn't asking for it. it was a long time coming for him, but damn how he was banished to the shadow realm was just nuts.
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Grade makes leafy look like a saint
15 likesAlso, Grade's original videos before drama were really funny. He could have easily returned to those and he would've been fine.
2 likesI think YouTube is becoming a more fragmented platform. Focus groups will be seamlessly separated within the platform based on the content they watch; all done by the all-powerful recommendation AI that YT trains on its users. Kids will see kids video, artsy people will see artsy content, and so on. There'll be some points of connection, just enough to bring you to communities you'll probably like, but never enough to find challenging content.
434 likesEveryone is a point on an infinite field of intersecting content, impossibly separated and identified by machines we'll never comprehend.
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fo sure
4 likesIn my recommended all I see is bolded clickbait titles when my focus are on car enthusiasm. Regardless the fact I try to block "Logan Paul" video types they are everywhere on my feed. I think YouTube is trying to steer viewers into those type of videos. Screaming, emotional, instagramming, teenagers vlogging themselves or whatever they do.
15 likesJustin N. hah Justin y but with more turtle power
3 likesYou know what? This is most likely the case.
0 likesi disagree on not finding challenging content, it just takes a long while.
0 likeslike about 2 years ago i used to watch some political commontators (armoured skeptic being the first) and then after a while watched more and more on and off until the early EU copyright crap was commented on by anti EU channels and the recommendations were... questionable.
like it was pretty much conspiracy theorist going from immigration being a problem into muslims will destroy democrissy by implementing sharia law because some countrys have 3 muslim MP's out of over 100 with no regard for voting boundarys.
but i do agree that youtube only spreads out slowly, only enough to make the average consumer not notice they're in a bubble, but definitely still trapping people in loops, like for example for a week my recommended was just smash content after the smash ultimate reveal, now i'm fucking sick of seeing smash 4 on my feed.
the algorythm is actually making me loath using the site because it's overloading me on repetitive videos.
That is true, but that is also how they control the website. I think in order to have a free YouTube is to first show YouTube consequences of censoring people, I.e hurt them in the wallet.
0 likesIn fact YouTube would be smart in just letting us, the people deal with channels that are considered cancer, like Elsa gate. Instead of this psycho shit.
0 likesTrenton Anderson I think YouTube would get more backlash if they openly said what sort of channels they don't want. The whole conspiracy with the gun shit shows that the reason they work in the shadows is because people would directly have backlash. They would rather have us just not know how things are working. YouTube's operations are like controlled chaos. That way they don't make it obvious when they censor something like gun channels. This stuff will continue to happen. YouTube has an agenda.
4 likesC.Home your right but eventually we the viewers figure it out and in effect show them that we know and we are ready to hurt them where it hurts. Just imagine a boycott of youtube, maybe a loss in money will show that they can't do shit like that and get away with it.
0 likesI think it's inevitable that Youtube becomes fragmented like television for the past 20-30 years.
1 likeThis would be a shocking eye-opener for a YouTuber just being a creative freelancer from 2007 till now not knowing what has been going on on the site. It's like an event in the real world that triggers nihilism but for YouTube
0 likescrookback - there's a "Not Interested" button on mobile when you tap on the option button beside recommended videos. You can modify the bot to your liking a little bit. I've blocked several channels whose personality i dislike
0 likesHot damn. What an eye opener.
64 likesI was firmly in the camp of hate leaf boi even after watching your YT Geo. video, but now I've found that I have a lot in common with him like his passion for eSports and love of Quake. I even share some the negatives like being abusive towards children over the internet. A very strange realization then came over me: He was exaggerating the negative side of his personality to gain views and become the champion no matter the cost.
Even if YT themselves had a hand in his downfall he was still going to play the game his own way to the bitter end. Like someone using an exploit to reach and win a grand final. The methods he used made him look bad, but they were effective, and he won the prize money, but his reputation would be forever tainted.
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BirdsEyeView I’ve always liked Leafy until 2017 when his views started to die out, and sorta forgot about him. Now, I’m actually surprised how similar we sorta are in terms of passions. I love Quake and eSports, and many other things.
5 likesThose two interviews were very insightful. This video... Man, just thank you. In a way, it feels like I've gotten closure on what happened with Leafy. It's good knowing he's doing alright. I remember theorizing about YouTube targeting him some point mid2017 when it had been nearly a whole year after since YouTube 2016 was reaching its climax. And you know, back then, that time in 2017. It saddened me to think how he just fell off the map. I'd never seen a channel go from 100 to 0 so quickly. And I'll admit, I liked his normal commentator videos. I still remember my favorite videos were usually the videos about his own life. I dunno, I guess I just love when people just stop and reminisce. For any piece of any history, nothing hurts more than being forgotten.
15 likesIs it just me, or does a YT Geographic on JonTron sound interesting? Not saying that he's gone onto the "downward spiral" necessarily, but it's just that he and the channel seem to have been through a lot. Drama, audiences, production adaptations. Quite a bit to go off there, but you do you. Great video btw.
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Reebz honestly this seems like a pretty good idea
1 likeare jon and arin still friends?
5 likesis this meme dead
Not to mention how many other content creators he's influenced.
2 likesOr tobuscus
4 likesJonTron is coming back. Check his Twitter.
2 likesHow about the Sonicchu guy????
2 likesJontron is back :)
1 like@Nick Mettert he's still posting and updating, also, there are many channels documenting everything he ever posted, did, wrote, said, etc
0 likesThere will never ever be another youtuber like Jontron
2 likes@Noriaki Cuckyoin yes. Thanks for asking. ;)
0 likes@Nick Mettert GenoSamuel is already working on an extensive documentary series about ChrisChan, so if you want to go down THAT rabbit hole...enter at your own risk
0 likesExcellent video, a lot of stuff learned.
24 likesLeafy sounds like a really interesting person.
I’d be eager to see him return to the Internet, not necessarily YouTube, in some way....
Wow, that last segment with Tommy C was worth sitting through 40 minutes of Q and A. Makes me glad I have an attention span greater than 10 minutes
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y'know most of the people who aren't going to watch this video aren't doing so because their attention span is short - but rather, because it's an hour long video about a subject that Emp already made an hour long video on - but the first one was well-edited and high-effort, while this is just talking. Even the qualifier of why the video is so long took about 8 minutes lol
8 likesThere are only so many hours in a day and so many days in a year and so many years in a life. Wasting an hour on something that might not be dense with entertainment, knowledge or other enjoyment is just silly when there are billions of shorter videos that the viewer assumes are just as good.
I think if Emp was much more brief in summarizing why the video was long (say, 1 minute instead of 8) then people wouldn't have clicked off the video as much. :P
That being said, I watched the whole video and was satisfied, but people who thought it was too long aren't wrong.
If leafy came back as a hardcore gamer I would totally support him. It would definitely be a nice transition from the toxicity that slowly got worse and worse as his channel grew.
23 likesCalvin, where ever you are, you sound cool. I would probably do the same thing you did, and I wish you the best. Cheers, my friend.
5 likes"He was like Mike Tyson at a time he was a champ he won the game then he lost the game then he picked up a new game and started again" - Tommy C
8 likesWow that has to be a inspirational quote.
You know if i could, i would probably meet Calvin. From what tommy C said, he seems like someone i could be on the same lvl with. Gamers to the core (seriuosly, when im in waist deep in a game, i study it to be thee most efficient player), intellegent (k that sounds douchy, i know), business viewing...seems like an awesome dude to kick back and play something while conversing on something thay can be deep or something on a game. Tommy was right that he is fascinating, which is why i say all this. I've subbed him since 2015, and found his content...in a sense, "original". I didnt like the toxicity part of it, but the fact that he went "fuck it ill say what i want" just really amazed me.
8 likesSide note, yeah he be competitive af, but he be up against another sweatshirt as well.
But idk, it just be cool
Wow, this was extremely revealing about Leafy's character. I'm glad you managed to get these extra sources to let us know what happened. And you're a gosh darn genius for getting your theory entirely right :O
88 likesI'm freaking impressed xD
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ChordsBoy its still a theory because youtube hasn't come out and said that they have been doing it
0 likesWell yeah, that part of the theory isn't proven , but it might as well have been. It's obvious that at least something is going on in terms of YouTube's algorithm and such.
3 likesBut I was mainly talking about the aspects of Leafy that EmpLemon just theorized about, like why he left and the kind of person he is. I dunno, it just seemed pretty cool that he figured that out lol
ChordsBoy yeah if this video gets big it will start a snowball effect and it will put big youtubers into worry
2 likesI really hope that happens tbh xD
1 likeIt'd be great to see all these top YouTubers start talking about these issue, and mayyybe YouTube would do something about it!
Ah, who am I kidding? YouTube is too money hungry -_-
Alright, cool (I'm sorry)
1 likeChordsBoy I remember hearing a similar theory on TheGamerFromMars.
0 likesMumkey: When is mumkey doc
17 likesEmplemon: you haven't been on downward spiral
Me: oh...the irony
I would LOVE to see him come back as Calvin. Had fun when he was in his prime but how he really is sounds so much more interesting.
7 likesI would love to know Calvin personally and get t be friends with him. He sounds like a cool and complicated guy. This might not be the most popular opinion but I’m sticking with it.
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It would be pretty cool to be his friend
3 likesGabriel Cobb until he betrays you like he did with keem
0 likesFatt Adolph Shea him and keem have made up and aren't enemies anymore
7 likesHis net worth is still 4,000,000. That’s enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life off dividends and interest. He can let that money subsidize an upper middle class life style indefinitely..he won. 2 years of work for a lifetime of liesure
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Keem said he doubled his money, and he does stocks hardcore so I believe
0 likesTheory: Mumkey Jones went on a downward spiral so Emp would make a Youtube Geographic about him
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Another one? What did I miss?
0 likesNOW he can make YouTube Geographic - Mumkey Jones
14 likesThere is so much predicting and “foreshadowing” in this video that ended up coming true holy fuck.
5 likesThe 2 leafy videos are great videos. Anyone on the site in 2016 should really watch them.
185 likesWhen someone else sees an EmpLemon video over 30 minutes they say “too long”.
109 likesWhen I see an EmpLemon video over 30 minutes I say “not long enough”.
I'm not gonna lie when I say you are my favorite YouTuber. Whether your commentaries are scripted or live, you really deliver your thoughts and points in an entertaining yet informative way. Also your YTP editing skills transition nicely in your scripted commentaries, especially for visuals.
5 likesI would like to see some more of these types of podcasts, they are really interesting to listen to. Plus they take less time to make than scripted commentaries and YTPs.
I'm looking forward to more of your content in the future.
32:54 "it's better to be hated than being irivelent"
9 likesEmpLemon 2018
30:13 Emp predicted that YT would come out and say that Leafy was breaking cyberbullying rules and guidelines instead of saying that he was a danger to the family friendly advertisers. Years later after Leafy comes back, this situation occurs.
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0 likesI kinda hope Calvin comes back as himself to youtube and not just the persona of leafy.
8 likesWhy do people not appreciate your long videos? How longer the video, how better the video
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EmpLemon could made a 5 hour video and I would be like "welp... there goes my afternoon." xd
5 likes2016 was an interesting year when it came to drama. You had Keemstar, Scarce, Leafy, Pyro, GradeA, Colossal, H3H3, and iDubbbz gong at it. Poodlecorp and Lizard Squad hacking WatchMojo, Leafy, and Redmercy along with countless Blizzard servers. The whole election going on so there was drama with other YouTubers with that shit. Onision with the Christina Grimme incindent and so much more shit. Gotta admit, as shitty as youtube itself was that year, watching all that shit go down kept me well entertained.
6 likesit's finally here
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Oh hey twomad
5 likesSo, you watch him too?
6 likesLol didn't expect you here
4 likesDad?
3 likeshi twomad
0 likesno way you watch these kinds of contents? by the way love your overwatch vids
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6 likesTwomad: makes how 3 alibi
Nerf Youtube
0 likestwomad sup twomad.
0 likesUnjo Gratis - i lol'd
0 likespreforming for you
1 liketwomad un ban tony
0 likesOh god he's here
0 likesur bad at fortnite fam just sayin
0 likeslmfao Twomad watches Emplemon vids
0 likesoh damn he's still alive
0 likesYou are totally the person who would watch emplemon lol
0 likesMiss ur Overwatch videos uwu
0 likesDidn't expect to see you here
0 likesHey man didn’t think u like this
0 likesExpected you watch Emplemon,
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0 likesIndeed, he is
0 likesWait there was a schedule?
0 likes@NotThirdReich you too?
0 likes@Flutter Butter i didn't expect you here too
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0 likesMakes 1 hour long video
705 likesBoth the video and its subject took months in total
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Liynassit No adds with RedTube.
15 likesregirayquaza uhm redtube uhm yeah sure
29 likesregirayquaza what’s redTube??!?!?!
4 likesInstead of normal and dark theme mode on normal YouTube Redtube allows you to change it to red theme
19 likesI'm pretty sure RedTube is a porn site.
10 likesCongratulations, you ruined the joke.
39 likesr/woooosh
17 likesYou're welcome for the 200th like :)
0 likesDoes this mean that youtubers can actually control how many and when the ads happen in the vid??? This explains why these freakin ads keep poppin up at the WORST times. My goodness.
1 like@Sir J. Bagelton people are learning a lot this thread
3 likes@Weasel Spandex knock off
0 likes@Pugpugpugs r/ihavereddit
0 likesLiynassit Now it's got 4 XD
0 likes@Weasel Spandex Emp still makes revenue with RedTube or PremiumTube
0 likesAs a fan of your content, I can only say one thing.
2 likesBeautiful.
Even though Leafy did some scummy things, I can't help but to admire him post YouTube.
These videos really inspired me man.....Idk I for some reason feel like I have a responsibility to show people these videos in light of what happened to leafy and just the fucked situation he was in. He might just about be one of the most interesting people I have ever seen on the whole internet. He had something to bring to the table and he really did leave a big impact and left his mark. That just left him with the big downfall of his youtube career. Thank you for the light you have brought to this subject, and thank you for the in depth roller coaster i have just experienced. I had no idea Youtube had this much of an impact on peoples lives and their physiological state. This is truly an interesting study that I hope to do some more research on.
3 likesI will say I'm eager to see if Leafy will ever come back, but with his recent actions before officially going off grid with the money and content trade off scandal, bashing on kids and not keeping elements of his past content I'm concerned and realistically thinking what might happen if he ever comes back
7 likesPlus if he does he might not be in the caring mood since it's said (by Tommy C at least) he's already set with plenty of money and is living life
In short, I hope the best for the dude in what he encounters and how he handles everything, from the looks of it there aren't many good people rising from others recently, but there are people that do
tommy changed my perspective of leafy. he was passionate about youtube. until it wasnt fun anymore. but moving on to passionate things. im starrting to like leafy. accept the things he did wrong.
17 likesGreat video as always, this was surprisingly informative on leafy on a more personal note, and definitely helped to humanize him.
2 likesI very much enjoy your YouTube Geographic series, as well as the rest of your longer videos. The editing is phenomenal, and the videos themselves are very informative. While a lot of people stretch for time, I feel like your videos are like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly in the sense that they're long, but I couldn't see them being any shorter
3 likesIt's a very likely chance that he will return, he's using this as a tool to come back with a good push
14 likesThe towerdog leaks and you're take on the matter may also explain why celebs youtubers were so boastful about their numbers and views at those time.
4 likesI think that YT was trying really hard to reach to kids and Youngs between 2012 and 2017, trying in fact to renew its audience. The fact that kids are more gullible and tend to coment more often than other age-classes was in my opinion the reason why those big channels tried first to enforce this kind of understanding the trends and career trajectories of other ytbers. Numbers were law at those times, and now nobody can stop talking about how commenting, liking and quantifying options are important to a channel nowadays.
Broken English, appologies
Keep fighting for the youtubers, go emp. Don't let Youtube win.
32 likesI'm all open arms for leafy if he comes back and makes some good content that isn't commentary videos, maybe something he actually likes
2 likesYour content and analysis of YouTube has kept me happy for the past 4 years, you deserve this spike in popularity 100%.
1 likeI'm glad the old vid got a follow up. I always saw the sins of Leafy as universally shared among most people on YouTube. I'm really glad you made these 2 videos, I don't think I have many more questions to ask about this now. Leafy actually inspired me to try and make videos so I bought a capture card... then I lost internet access for a year and his channel was run into the ground. If only I knew all of this in 2015 when I subscribed to this dude playing CS:GO and telling life stories. Thank you for making this video, all of the confusion has been taken away.
2 likesMan after hearing Tommy C. I want leafy to come back as a philosopher goddamn
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Not exactly a philosopher but his take on Keem vs H3H3 was on point.
0 likesI’ve been watching you since your old ytp days and seeing a video you put your time and effort to this extent get appreciated is just great to watch! Good work Emp
1 likeThis was a really good video. The multiple perspectives really contributed to the overall story.
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BTW if you see this, I think one of the things that REALLY deserves a youtube geographic is youtube politics. Not you talking about your political opinion, (kinda thought your EU vid was trash) but just the state of politics on this website. It's really interesting to see the reflection of society in this website.
2 likesBush = Athiest youtube
Obama = anti-feminist youtube
trump = radical politics youtube
Reasons why youtube is so right wing would be intresting ive never been sure why. You might think I'm biased but only 5% of americans identify as antifeminist, wheras its like the mainstream view on youtube even for neutral channels.
Caleb Benson you want to see politics in your video game ? I don't +most people don't associate with anti feminist or feminist because they are affraid look at all the ''right wing'' (as media says ) youtuber or even activist they are In deep shit or at least they were feminist are just crazy so people don't want to be called crazy and they don't want to be in deep shit too
0 likesI began watching this video with no idea of how any nuance could possibly be given to the subject. I have to say that I’ve been very pleasantly surprised. This new insight gives me a perspective that I never would have gotten even back in 2016. Definitely worth watching all the way through.
2 likesIt's interesting how Leafy's content makes him seem like some kind of shallow airhead, yet I can believe that he's as intelligent as they say. He probably just minimized the work put into each video to maximize his numbers. He certainly rode waves of YouTube fame for a while, and he knew how to get into some healthy controversy and consistently appeal to people he didn't even like much. If YouTube itself didn't pull the plug, he very well could have faded away, but he also could have branched out like PewDiePie did. Whatever he does, I wish him the best, and I hope that he doesn't get too obsessed or screw anyone over.
2 likesA one hour EmpLemon video? THANK THE LORD MONTIZON!
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TheOverlordTank 1 hr vid = 1 ad
11 likesTheOverlordTank ITS MONITIZED!!
5 likesThankfully, Youtube isn’t Emp’s job, more of a hobby. If it was his job, he’d be more than dead by now.
9 likesThe latest harvest has been better than never before. Montizon must be appeased with our offerings.
2 likesi love watching longer videos from you! sometimes i just sit back and watch or listen while i’m cleaning or doing my homework. i’m so glad that you’re blowing up right now, congrats man
1 likeI actually really enjoyed this video. Even if it is just you answering questions for an hour, the way you get the answers out there is pretty chill and insightful for what goes on behind the scenes. All and all, pretty cool.
1 likemum: you have to leave in 1 hour
11 likesme: just enough time for a emplemon video
dont get me wrong i watch the whole vid every time i like the length of the vids
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5 likesWelp, Mumkey's been on his downward spiral. Can we get that YouTube Geographic now?
This was a truly great video. I am so impressed with your research skills and attention to detail! I'm really happy I subscribed to your channel; you are awesome♥️
1 likegreat vid dude. You're one of the few people who would have ever even cared enough to show both sides and not take the cheap and easy narrative. Keep making good stuff!
1 likeThose last 20 minutes accompanied by the music actually almost made me want to cry. I never realized how much of an intellectual Leafy was, and now that I look back, I feel like I could’ve seen bits and pieces of his intelligence scattered throughout his videos. I really do miss him. It was as if there was a slight part of myself in his personality, whether that persona was real or fake I’ll never know, but for a while, I enjoyed his content and who he was. I feel like with this new outlook on him, I could enjoy it even more. He won the game, and I wish he could teach us all a few tricks on how to win our own games.
1 likeYou deserve it dude great job on putting up such a masterpiece of a video :D keep up the good work!!
1 like2 years later, Emp was right. Leafy has returned with two videos seemingly attacking idubbbz and that situation. The editing style of these videos shows his lack of change, and his endcards "website is still shit" shows hes still watching youtube. Who knows if this is his comeback to the platform, or just two random videos he decided to make and post, i guess we will find out soon......
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honestly think he should't have uploaded those videos. He could have made something a bit more... positive
3 likes@Jewska while I agree at the same time I though it's a funny revenge story fill with irony
1 like@Sukellusmies He needs to keep up his Reptilian persona. He may be a bit more chill behind it but this is his business on Youtube. Also he seems to have only been back just for the fun of it.
1 likeI remember back then I used to dislike leafy intensely and make him out in my head as irredeemable person. I even made a rant video back then about him, I unlisted because I don't like it. I now feel sorry for him and have a new found admiration for him. In many ways I agree with your quote "there's a bit of leafy in all of us." Because I see a lot of leafy in myself, and in many other people on and offline. I just wish we could see him make a come back.
2 likesI’m a new sub, and I really appreciate the effort put into each and every video. You make good stuff dude. You’re gonna be big.
0 likesThese videos are some of the most thought provoking I've heard, wonderful stuff emp
1 likeI will say this, Leafy's leaving was a brilliant move on his part, now everyone is talking about him again....I do think he'll come back.
7 likesThis Video, and the other video made on Leafy, has truly changed my thoughts and views of Leafy and his channel. I used to think of leafy how everybody thought of him, an evil bastard who is willing to throw people into a warzone for fame. But after these two videos, I have a new view on him. I now see him as a guy who did wrong, but felt forced to keep going because of youtube fame, not for It. For this EmpLemon, I thank you.
2 likesThanks lemon, i really appreciate your hunt for the inner machinations of youtubes schemes and behind the scenes stuff, and thanks for giving me, like you said, some closure, i just hope no one tries hunting or hounding people who know leafy after this, if he does he does, if he doesn't he doesn't
1 likeTo me, it's good that those were 51 minutes well spent alongside playing The Sims 3 at 3 AM for two reasons:
1 likeOne is that's almost the same runtime as a typical Nat Geo documentary, and two is that I get to go down the rabbit hole to find what was going on.
Only EmperorLemon can make me miss 2016 Leafy drama.
2 likesGreat video.
The god damn nostalgia factor on the leafy vids. It's like watching interviews with people who knew dead rockstars.
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Nevermind 1234 he is a dead YouTube Star , for now maybe he'll come back
1 likeI don’t want leafy’s old content to come back, but I want leafy to come back. I want to see who he is today, from what I’ve heard from him in regards to his personality I want to see him project that into content. Much like I appreciated h3h3’s personality, I feel like I would appreciate his personality, even if it’s at the other side of the spectrum.
2 likesThis is a lot happier of an ending that I expected. I expected he was some dude now in the poor house stuck remembering his days of empire and glory, but he’s a happy, wealthy man going about his life. I’m glad he made it out happy.
1 likeThank you EmpLemon, for giving so much insight of a youtuber's rise and fall.
1 likeI will say, your commentary videos are a great thing to listen to while working.
1 likeKeep these videos up, they're great to listen to!
R.I.P. LeafyIsHere 2011-2017 ~ 2020-2020😭
5 likesUpdate: Just watched the interview with Keem, ended up missing Leafy even more.
This video is great, but also a paradox. Knowing that Leafy has a normal life humanizes him, but the fact that he acts so strangely to his empire collapsing almost makes him more inhuman than ever. Then there's Tommy C showing no remorse for attacking Leafy back in the day like some scumbag lawyer making fun of his clients behind their backs (I worked at a law firm, I know what I'm talking about). It really shows how petty internet fame can change people, make them inhuman. What an interesting look into the youtuber community...
5 likesLet’s all admit, if Leafy came back and started acting like Tommy described him as, my money’s on he could probably bounce back.
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a prophet tho for a short time
1 likeYou deserved every single view and sub, been a long time fan and finally happy you get the view and subs you’ve been deserving
1 likeI remember you one time saying you read all your comments. I hope you still do (or even can with the influx of new viewers and commenters) just you can see me say that your very comfortably in my top 5 favorite youtube channels. I absolutely adore your editing style and the topics you discuss. I’m very happy your channel is growing so nicely so more people can see your great channel.
1 likeWhatever you make next I am excited to see it, youtube geographic and your rants are top, keep it up mate.
8 likesI'm glad I tuned into this. I've been always ignorantly wondering what happened to Leafy(since I was quite a bit of a fan of him, and I still am despites the hates and criticism he gets.) until I stumbled upon your Geographic video and now this. This video answered a few of my questions and made me hope for his return, changed. And I am thankful for it; thank you for making these videos.
1 likeYouTube Geographic - Filthy Frank
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Well he just quitted YouTube on his own I think he just did not like what he was doing anymore I'm not sure tho
63 likesDarth Panda okay
1 likeI feel like his story is too well known
10 likeshis youtube career is still such an interesting story
41 likesI'd love to see that, although Papa Franku didn't fall like Leafy did. All that happened was Joji didn't feel happy making the content anymore and it was actually affecting his health (he actually needed to get surgery because doing the guttural Frank voice damaged his vocal cords I think) and he switched instead into making serious lo-fi music with 88Rising.
18 likesIt would make a fascinating YouTube Geographic even if he didn't fall or go through a downward spiral. A youtuber named Serena did an interesting video essay on the whole cancer crew. It was more of an analysis from a film studies perspective but it was interesting nonetheless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbaV6o_aFP4&t=524s
15 likesHe decided to make the worse “music” the work has ever seen
1 likeHe's made some great songs though, and I don't like rap.
5 likesBranon M frank was filthy youtube geographic
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0 likesGreat idea 👍
0 likes@Princess Applestrach
2 likesthe opposite; he was actually very happy with what he was doing, and didnt want to stop. what forced him to was a medical opinion
right after that, he released an incredibly depressing album. i think theres a correlation, even if tiny
@Nick Name oh okay idk I've only heard rumors so yeah
1 likeYES
0 likes@Princess Applestrach Emp could still cover him though.
0 likesAWW HELL YEAHHHHHHHHH
0 likesReally isn't much to say about the context of the show but a lore and history analysis would be sick
0 likesI think it would be a better never ever video
0 likes@Hush Roll maybe but id say leafy's story is even more well known
0 likesVOID for sure now it is, 2 years ago it wasn’t
0 likes@RadManRize it would be called "Spiral"
1 likeI'm not 100% convinced that youtube would have chosen to specifically target you. Your videos aren't obscure by any means but considering the sheer amount of higher notoriety channels on youtube I'd be surprised if they really even knew you existed. My theory on your videos getting demonetized (and subsequently being promoted less, because a link between those has been proven) is either: a) Youtube scanned for and automatically flagged videos that their ai deemed to be overly critical of their website, or: b) The demonetization bots were just horribly inaccurate due to being in earlier stages of machine learning. I personally think the latter is more likely. I'm not 100% certain but I THINK the demonebots have gotten better as time's gone on, but the fact that everyone was subjected to them when they were at their stupidest is still incredibly shameful (and I highly doubt they're perfect yet either).
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well, i disagree
12 likesthe leafy geographic video got pretty popular so youtube might have seen the channel, and if they did the would probably target him since he brings the obscure and shady doings of youtube into the spotlight.
youtube, like any other business, wouldn't want the community to know they have been destroying channels on purpose, so they would demonetize and target emp lemon so that no body sees him.
i hope that never happens though
Mako Ray hmmmm I think you're right!
1 likeI'm talking about months before the leafy video though.
17 likesMako Ray it would too obvious if YouTube started black balling channels with hundred thousands of subs
0 likesMako Ray nope.......its based on the corporation being politically motivated and censorship
4 likesCorporate espionage and/or manipulation happens in A LOT of companies and I wouldn’t be surprised if YouTube is in that list.
0 likesI agree a lot with what you say, and after looking around, not even Penguinz0/Cr1t1cal seems to have got hit by youtube after criticizing it. Very few criticisms of youtube have many views, and maybe youtube is censoring them. My research was kind of shitty but on a surface level all I concluded is this: It seems that saying something like: "Youtube has betrayed us content creators" is too mainstream for youtube to censor much and get away with it. Only videos that are even more critical/sharp of youtube's negative sides have any opening to be harshly censored if any. I don't think youtube can get away with censoring big channels very much/oftenly or people will catch-on and build a counter-movement, too risky. Theoretically you can pump out attacks on small channels without any reasonably find-able traces of proof, because of how fluctuating viewership is inherently (not the same for large channels though!).
1 likeI think personally that emplemon is not getting focused by youtube unless they somehow found him and grey(more subtle black)-listed him. I would honestly wager 50/50, BUT because of how popular some of emplemons anti-youtube videos spiked there is a real potential for it.
I think they targeted just videos in general criticizing youtube and big channels like leafy's because that seems more likely.
1 likeYoutube has known Emp Lemon exists for a while. He's had talks with at least one representative, from my understanding from his own videos. He has had concerns for some time, and I'm sure that in his attempt to 'lose subscribers' with his content switch (what he called his Downward Spiral) he has had a lot of experience looking at his analytics. I understand where his paranoia comes from.
4 likesYoutube has learned to watch people quite effectively. They've seen Youtube Poop - there will never be another Walrus Guy. They've seen Yugioh the Abridge Series - there will never be another Little Kuriboh (both used copyrighted content, and would never take off today). They have seen animators move from Newgrounds, and then they squashed those channels too (Weebl's Stuff used to be big, now channels like him are irrelevant compared to the new Drama genre).
Youtube has a business model to promote what it wants to promote. What they want is rich, vapid people to create drama - the more harmless and stupid, the better. They want more WAALLLLLLLLLLMAAAAAAAAAARRRRT memes. Anything that will drive viewership to low effort content is seen as a good thing. Anything that only takes a camera and a personality to start, they will promote. Let's plays, drama, reviews, etc. That is the promoted stuff. Everything else is niche.
ravemastaj | If your theory is so true, why not push commentary channels? Those channels always cause tons of it, and Leafy is just one example. And why would they target channels with non-dramatic content? It’s still money in their pocket.
0 likesImbion Answer is tags see lemon mentioned this in the last video but a user found that youtube was blacklisting key terms for searching which would explain why lemon videos on youtube didn't get seen
0 likesAmazing video, just as always worth watching, and length. I honestly dont care about the length, they contain information, info that if its too quickly brought would lose its value. I think that you, Emp, have a perfect nose for it, spreading info density. And I think that your videos should be in the trending tab of at least 6 countries, since they have info good info, they are well written and well structured. I cant wait for wich subject you ll tackle in your next yt geographic. But I already know its gonna be a good one. Thank you for making the downwards spiral less bad, and thank you for just simply doing your thing.
1 likeVery interesting to listen to this when Leafy is back now
6 likesCan we get one last hiss. For old time's sake
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*for old times snake
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@TVFandaShow hah i get it
1 like@Quack I try to be funny but no one likes my edgy and bland humor.
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0 likes@Fish Steak I completely agree
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0 likesI really like your long videos, I just enjoy listening to long commentaries while playing a good game, and this (and your other leafy video) were really insightful an engaging. Hope to see more meaty videos like these in the future!
1 likeNot wanting to watch an hour long video has nothing to do with having a short attention span in most cases. It's far more often about.. y'know, we only have so many years in a life, and so many hours of free time in a day. Sure, we could pay attention to a 4 hour long video, but if we can get equal satisfaction, knowledge or experiences in a ten minute video, then why would we? That's why long videos need to really have a qualifier if they aren't packed with tons of effort or otherwise value for the viewer for time spent.
12 likesKind of a rant about nothing, it doesn't matter, but your whole argument of "if you dont wanna watch my hour long video and you think it should be shorter, you have a small Youtube viewer brain and attention span" is pretty pretentious and self-important and just silly lol
I remember all of this drama happening but it feels like Youtube have completely erased it from the history. I haven't even thought about leafy after the content cop until I came across your documentary and I remembered how big of a youtuber leafy really was. I feel like he should get rid of his fanbase and just come out fresh as a new and different person. I personally loved his older story and rant videos but I couldn't stand the bullying (especially against the kids) and the titles became too clickbaity where I didn't even know if it was a joke or not. But I'd love to see him come back as a new person and just talk and hell I'd even watch his gaming videos even if I'm not a fan of it. Thank you for your input on this whole thing it really changed my perspective on Calvin as a person.
1 likeAwesome editorial well done. I feel your not milking it. Leafy is A YouTube icon A legend Of social media.
4 likesLeafy's story reminds me of the macedonian empire. In it's final days when Alexander the great (Leafy) died, his generals(his closest commentary friends) split the big empire between themselfs. There was the seleucid kingdom, ptolemaic Egypt kingdom, etc.
2 likes14:08 Emp gets angry when playing cuz he couldn't beat the level, so he smashes the reset button without knowing that it doesn't really help him.
4 likesEdit: He probably rage quits lol
Amp I have been with you since the time of YouTube poops and man your content, I feel nowadays is just so much better than it used to be because of how interesting it is and new it is and please keep on going man, keep on going down that downward spiral!
1 likei dont want to see leafy. I want to see Calvin.
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I take Leafy's real name is Calvin?
8 likes@Pifflesome Puff Nadder yes
0 likesSurvive in today's climate?
3 likes@TA34 I'd love to see that
2 likeshe came back as calvin now
0 likes@Pifflesome Puff Nadder did you even watch the vid lmao
0 likesAlso stolen comment
0 likesHonestly, long form content has become so popular, and for damn good reason.
1 likeIt allows people to get in depth on a subject and(if done right) allows the audience a window of insanely vivid detail of the subjects discussed in them.
I agree with alot of things said, I would be more then willing to get to know Calvin rather than leafy. The man behind the mask. I would like to read this imaginary book as well I think it would be something.
6 likesFrom ytps to this. You have always been human perfection
2 likesI feel definitely feel more closure about this moment in YouTube then before. Thank you.
1 likeBefore watching this video, I feel like you gained 50K subs because of leafy fans. You weren’t scathingly negative, you provided a great and well digested video about his path to fame and failure. After, you said you saw things similar that’s happening to you. You provided some critical thinking near the end of the leafy YouTube demographic video. I’d say that’s a step in the right direction
2 likesTL; DR you had a neutral response with some self reflection. Good on you, Emp.
Out of all the teachers I've had over the years, you do the best about informing me about YouTube and the inner workings.
1 likeSo here's what's really going on with YouTube. They want to be the alternative to television that appeals to millennials who no longer watch actual TV. They pay content creators the same way that television networks pay creators/directors of television shows to air their content on a time slot within their channel/network. However, in the same way that executives of a television channel want to appeal to a wide demographic to make as much money as possible, YouTube executives want their front-running channels to appeal to that same broad demographic. Television programming has to be run through filters and censors, namely the FCC, to ensure that a five-year-old kid doesn't turn on the TV and see porn or some guy getting his guts ripped out with a chainsaw. YouTube realized that virtually everyone under the age of 60 has a computer in their home nowadays, and virtually everyone under the age of 60 knows how YouTube works. They don't want to run the risk of that same five-year-old who turned on the television to go on YouTube and see the first video in their recommended be a compilation of Samuel L. Jackson's greatest lines in Pulp Fiction or a channel like Leafy's that directed impressionable people to harass certain people mindlessly. It's the mindset of "we need to make this appropriate for the youngest possible demographic we commonly see on here", which would be young, impressionable kids. I'm not defending YouTube here for doing this, I'm just explaining why they're doing this. They want their own version of the FCC to be used on the platform to make it more suitable for all ages, and that's the bottom line, BECUASE STONE COLD SAID SO!
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they kinda did that a bit too late, i have allready changed into a much less innocent person because of youtube allready.
1 likeThis has been, without a doubt, the best character study on youtube. Really interesting!
1 likeEmpLemon mentioning how Mumkey hasn't gone on a downward spiral yet is oddly prophetic
2 likesHour well spent, never even thought about clicking off this was genuinely entertaining
1 likei've been a subscriber since 2012 (back before i started using this account). you've grown a lot from just making youtube poops and i'm glad that you found success in doing other things as well. can't wait to see what you have in stored for the future!
0 likesWith new YouTubers popping up every day I feel like the 2019 will be next big year of drama and will exactly like 2016, Mark my words bastards
2 likesBarely halfway through and already a really enticing video. Well spoken, and it's cool to see a more chill side of you!
1 likeKeep going strong, EmperorLemon!!
2 likesI remember leafy
1 likeI remember watching his videos and enjoying them. Granted they got repetitive but I still missed him when he was gone. Ironically enough I used to hate leafy was here too. But now whenever I hear of him (especially after your videos) I can’t help but get sad. I’ll tell you one thing, id take leafy any day over the Paul brothers and rice gum.
It would be very interesting if leafy case back, it would be cool to see a reborn leafy, especially if he had a whole new form of content. I would personally like leafy to come back. There was something about him that made him so watchable
This is literally one of my favorite channels, keep up the good work!
0 likesThx for sticking to the idea of unscripted commentaries it was very enjoyable and I look forward to the next one
2 likesIve been watching you for a few months now Emp, and I won’t lie your content, your commentaries/documentaries and your whole demeanor and style really do remind me of the golden days of YouTube that I grew up with (for me that was from 2008-2016). You’re a huge inspiration, and more importantly someone who does YouTube for the right reasons in my opinion. Keep up the great work and know that you have inspired me and my work too
0 likesIf I was old enough, Tommy C would sound like a guy I would like to have a drink with. Well said man.
2 likesI swear, EmpLemon's content always finds a way to become better with each video which always seems impossible once the next one is over. The stretch from the Top 10 Memes of 2016 to this vid has been like a renaissance of content for EmpLemon
1 likeI miss Leafy. I miss 2015 and 16 as well. I think about those days a lot, and i've realized that as ridiculous as it sounds, Leafy was a somewhat important part of my life. I'd compare leafy to a kids show you used to watch. His channel occupied a lot of my time in his earlier days, and i was very keen with his community. Leafy was my favorite youtuber for a stretch of time. I'm describing this in detail just to show how much his channel meant to me back then, and how much it means to me now to hear that hes ok. Its ridiculous I know, but i feel that he was a good person and made me happy many times over, and made me laugh in worse times. This is just a bit of love and consideration towards leafy where i know there isnt much. I hope he comes back but if he doesnt thats fine. However, i truly wish the best for him and thank him for all the times hes made me smile.
1 likeI have already watched the original video like 6 times, from beginning to the end. I never get bored of your content. Clown's and Tommy's testimony was really important to this subject. Great video like always
0 likesIm happy for you emp, keep up the good work
1 likeDamn, after hearing what Tommy C had to say I actually kinda want Calvin to return. Not doing the same things he was doing when he was active but maybe comeback doing what he has passion for. From what Tommy was saying it sounded like Calvin could actually make a difference no matter what he ends up doing. I wish him the best and hope he does well in the future
5 likesVideos like these almost feel like a podcast, where its something you can put on in the background and listen and fully absorb a lot of the information with a slight bit of visual input. 10/10
0 likesMumkey Jones YouTube Geographic when?
10 likesthis was really good thanks for making this video, it was pretty depressing after what clown said so I'm glad tommy came on at the end. i also really like these long videos so I hope you can make more in the future
0 likesoh hey it’s me. EmpLemon gave a pretty solid answer. I actually thought only Content Cop completely killed Leafy’s channel but knowing about the leaks EmpLemon provided gives a better reason why Leafy’s channel could’ve been killed.
3 likesThe Leafy video was a masterpiece, please do more like it.
10 likesAfter watching this video I decided to binge a few other 30 min to 1 hour videos and your content is so interesting and engaging I must've watched about 3 hours of your stuff. Even though youtube sort of fucks you over I hope you keep uploading because I generally enjoy your content so much. I've been watching your videos since 2014 with Lightning McQueer and the Quest for Tires, and all your other poops when I was about 11. And I'm proud to call myself a fan.
1 likeThank you Emplemon
I actually watched the leafy video 2 times because it was so interesting.
14 likesHe did not protecc
25 likesBut he did attac
But that doesn’t matter because
LeafyIsBack
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amen brother
1 likeThat didn't last long
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0 likesJust a dumb thought: What if someone intentionally slows down their videos to half the speed of the original, then tells viewers to speed up the playback rate to 2x? That way, watch time would be met with only half the effort required.
1 likeThe thing about Emp that I enjoy is that his content is absolutely unique and he enjoys doing it. He has great content that isn't clickbait. His research and video quality reminds me of the Shane Dawson docu-series', but something that seems to be more important. Him, as a YouTuber, does truly fear YouTube. For some people, this is their job. Just the way that YouTube operates could possibly get rid of completely innocent channels. Emp speaking up about this is absolutely important, imo
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Evil_glass_wolf801 I've heard of emp, since last year. He's always intrigued me
0 likesThe Meme Meister Several months ago, TheGamerFromMars made a short video about Leafy and had the same hypothesis of YouTube removing Leafy from recommendations.
0 likesAs a long time fan of YTP videos, yours always got me and the KOTH YTP as well. I enjoy the change of content and find it a beautiful refresher of a downward spiral. Thanks for the material and for the refreshing restart back to my original passion on this site.
1 likeI watched your leafy video 3 times already, what a great piece of YouTube History!
3 likeswhen i got onto this video i started to get bored about 12 minutes in and said to myself "imma watch a bit more of this and then imma move on to something else". i ended up watching the full video
1 likegood shit
also this video has made me sympathise with leafy in some way. as was said, he's just some normal dude, with some flaws, kinda cold, but he's a normal dude.
i repeat, good shit
I genuinely find your YouTube graphic series, especially the one on leafy and this follow up interesting. I usually just stick to my little bubble filled with creators and that's it. I will go on recommended and watch some videos or hear of YouTube rivalries, but that's really it. Your series shows the parts of YouTube that I and others probably wouldn't see and you approach topics with actual interests. You also seem to keep things unbiased, which is very respectable. I hope you continue creating great content.
0 likesOverall, the whole story for me is a classic case of "Rise and Fall of an Empire" which was caused from somewhere within. The case to me has a very complex plot, as many of these kinds of cases tend to have. A true downward spiral indeed.
1 likei never actually watched leafy but this got me right in the feels
1 like3 years. It's really been that long, hasn't it? Feels good to come back.
1 likeThis was an interesting listen. I find most of your insightful videos good to listen to on the bus. Keep up the good work
0 likesInteresting video really, and the quality of your last video led to you getting some pretty valueable contacts.
1 likeTommy C letting us know that Leafy was happy was a reassuring thing, while Leafy was far from a youtube angel, i wouldn't wish for him to be miserable.
That actually made me tear up a bit
2 likesYour videos are so insightful and good, its like school except it’s actually entertaining!
1 likeOff topic but the Allegretto from Beethoven's 7th is one of my favorite pieces of classical music. I've performed the 7th in it's entirety once, and I've listened to the Allegretto A LOT. Everytime it comes on in the background I tend towards listening to it rather than the commentary in the foreground. Like anybody else get this?
1 likeseeing leafy in a different light really makes it all the more depressing to relive his downfall
8 likesAwesome video, great pursuit of some degree of closure, very measured and balanced review and revisiting of your initial YT Geo exposé. ✌️✌️✌️✌️😎💯😎😎💯😎💯
1 likeThe one thing that hurt the most while watching this was when colossalis claimed that leafy hated his subscribers, leafy was really one of my favorite YouTubers.
1 likeThat collosal is crazy memo made me realize that yeah, he didn't spend much money on anything, and we all knew he was making a crap ton off of ad revenue, but he wouldn't even buy a better webcam or mic, dude just grinded videos everyday always hitting a million plus, he's probably just set for life.
15 likesI'm glad this video ended with Tommy C.
7 likesIf it wrapped up with ColossalisCrazy, it would've been a very sour ending.
At first.. I thought "1 hour vid? I don't have time for that!"
1 likeA day later when I have free time, "This is in-depth, informative, and time well spent watching."
this is really cool, such a good video. the style the music everything. thx Emp
1 likeThanks Emp, here a loyal subscriber, and dont thank me, i thank you.
0 likesIndustry, be it Youtube or any kind of industry always come to be an evil hell... I want to dig deep into a topic and share an internal thought about all of this. Is up to anyone who wants to read a lot, otherwise keep scrolling.
I've always been a guy with a quite unique personality, just as many other people, after all being unique is not unique, heh. But everyone seemed to love the way I was, the way I am. I might have shared some things with him or the guys like him, like sociopathy, humour, dickness, chaos, considering everything as a game... (Tho in a particular different type of style, maybe a bit more caring and mature), and not even for taking him as an example, I did not even knew Leafy as a youtuber until all this drama started.
Many have said many times to me to create a YouTube channel and just be myself, and that, would have personally liked me very much. Maybe even the way I am, not to be egocentric, but would've maybe most probably even made me famous, being the fact that almost everyone who got to know me tagged me as an icon.
Being myself on the internet, the place I loved, and even get the chance to become famous... was a thing to raise my temptation... But actually I don't know what, at the time made me think, the result was not going to be myself. I thought I wasn't ready for the upcoming, I was still too young to be affected by that world.
I live and lived in not quite the best conditions, never been too rich, just the necessary to cover a slight over the average; would have dreamed to live on my own, away from many personal problems; to my persona to be known and seen as an icon to people laugh and enjoy with its videos and livings... And I've always been a dedicated guy to keep going until i make my dreams come true, but I thought the newer problems that new world would bring...
Nobody's perfect, and I got to know a few times in a lower scale, outside, in other contexts, that while being on the light spot those little missteps about one not being perfect, get to magnify a lot, and people is absolutely unpredictable, so as having more people to being followed by, the more the little cracks would be poked until all falls apart, and... Was that what I wanted? I had lots of things I wasn't perfect, and I didn't wanted to correct, after all I just wanted to be myself, so I now watch this video and put myself on the other side, the side EmpLemon is talking about, criticising on the good and the bad, and though critics are good, the effect on the public about the one being criticized can be mass-bad, and as I said people is unpredictable, and I was not prepared, not for the industry devil, not for the angry mass of people...
So I watch this video now after not having done anything over the years and I sweat, I smile, I hear my hard breathe, about the hypothetical, but the possible future I may have had from that alternative starting point many years ago but that thankfully never happened. Yeah sure I don't live on a mansion, don't sleep with a supermodel, nor have an exotic car... I still have problems, the same as before, dont even have a computer now, but i know i have to work for it, i could be sad thinking about the possible, but overall I think I got to live it more happy this way, making my close circle of friends happy everyday, knowing their faces, and that they're happy about it, not just random throwing happiness to a fishtank of people and let some enjoy, and some others fight for it. I'm normal but happy.
So this is the story of a nobody, an hypothetical famous icon from another parallel universe. I'd like to hear some comments and thoughts about it, or not if you don't want to, but I'd only have liked to help you or inspire you if you got to be now in the same starting place I was some years ago. Thanks for your time.
I really enjoyed this video. It's an interesting topic and you got all this information just to share it. I like the trajectory of this channel, even tho I'm new here, but watched some of your vids
1 likeI feel like this video wrapped it up nicely. I think I get how Leafy really works now. He’s such a character. I can’t believe throughout all this time he really was actually just playing a game with YouTube, hell, he was playing a game with us viewers. He bet his time and effort on us to watch his videos, and in return, he became so well-off that he doesn’t have to do it anymore. I’m kinda glad he got where he is. He played a good game.
1 likeA weaker man would have collapsed, it's amazing to see the willpower leafy really has
1 likeI binge on hour long videos for background noise while I'm working on something.
1 likeOccasionally, if I heard some REAL juicy info-- turn my head 360 around
"WHHAAAT?!"
I loved that feeling.
Damn. I was gonna watch the leafy documentary later after it first came out. I finally watched it before this video.
1 likeBy the way I think your content is top quality. Keep it up!
Wow... You're telling me that Leafyishere is actually a human being? That is so mind blowing!
85 likesOkay but for real though, THANK YOU Emplemon, this is such an awesome closure (or reopening???) of leafy's legacy
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Rusted Can It reminds me of an old TheGamerFromMars video but released at a much better time.
0 likesLoved how you edit your videos man keep up the great work!
1 likeHearing Tommy C.'s take on this is really interesting to me, as it kinda sets Leafy up as an intentional "heel". The strangest thing about all this to me is that it makes perfect sense. The idea that someone would see YouTube as a game where subscriber counts and video views are "high scores" isn't exactly unusual in my eyes. You see this kind of thing in a lot of ultra-competitive individuals, a great example being a private high school's chase for Valedictorian. I think Leafy knew exactly what he was doing, but I don't think he really cared one way or the other what others thought about him in the process. To him, YouTube was a game that he could win, and that's exactly what he did. He had no qualms with stepping on toes and didn't mind going down in flames, so long as he went down in a way he could be remembered. He beat YouTube for years, and didn't mind crashing and burning when his time came. From this description, I'd argue he's a bit of a sociopath, but I'm sure he's not the only one who thinks of YouTube in this way, and I can't argue he wasn't successful with it.
10 likes"why would I want to overcome the hate?"
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I remember the days when emp made ytps lmao feels like yesterday. I love this new content too though, keep it up!!!
1 likeI really don't care if the video is long. in fact, it makes it less annoying to find another video quickly.
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Butter H2 And then I feel sad when the video is close to being over
3 likesGTA 4 is not deep Metal Gear Solid 3 is deep Me too!
0 likesButter H2 I don't get what you mean
0 likesMan, that final part with Tommy really got me thinking about my actions when all the Leafy drama was happening...
0 likes"what i see when i look at your channel are growing numbers, so i can't do a leafy style mumkey jones documentary"
3 likesafter recent events with mumkey's channel getting terminated by 3 simultaneous strikes, all paired with dumb motives, would you be willing to do a mumkey documentary now? i'd actually really like to see it from your perspective!
22:04 this is depressing in retrospective
9 likesHey Emp, idk if you read comments or what not but I just want to thank you for producing content of this quality so regularly. Most youtubers who try to call out this site for its shit really have their backs against the wall, and I’m glad you’ve managed to continue creating such great content while dealing with all the hardship thrown at you by youtube.
0 likesI feel like if leafy comes back he should do a draw my life to give us an insight on what his life was like to be in the eyes of leafy I want to really know what was behind that mic besides the chin tehe
15 likesI must say Emp, you have a really good taste in music. The use of classical musicians and prog rock groups like ELP & Pink Floyd is a nice thing to hear in videos.
0 likesI love a lot of your videos due to how in-depth they all are.
1 likeGreat video, The way you talk about stuff really resonates with me sometimes. Nice job :)
0 likesI like to watch and rewatch your longe videos because I like to make sure I don't miss much of what you discuss in them.
1 likeOne day someone should adapt Leafy's story into Greek Tragedy play.
3 likesI've never really been one to follow internet drama as it's happening, but goddamn do I love learning about it after it's happened.
0 likesit actually feels nice listening to Someone while doing something,
1 likeI never realized how much I liked long discussion videos like this until now
1 likeive been a sub for a while now at least 2 years. I have no annoyance with an hour long video, I actually enjoy longer ones. You’ve definitely grown, your editing has been better and your thoughts have been more out together too. I have had the issue with your videos not showing up, but I go out of my way every week or so to search for your name and binge the stuff I missed if anything at all. I really like the exposes and meme reviews. The LEAFY video really
0 likesmade me think about how YT is becoming such an echo chamber of god knows what. It’s just like Vine 2.0 and trying so hard to be the corporate media that tries so hard to destroy them. You have great insights and I really look forward for the videos you have in the future. Thank you for all the laughs and second thoughts about ideas I would not have previously
Hey Emp, I know you're long done with this project, but I thought you might be interested in knowing that Leafy and Keemstar were actually able to talk and be friends before leafy left YouTube. Although you probably know that especially if you watched baited.
2 likesThis gave an interesting insight into the side of leafy we all didnt get to see, hearing about his more private affairs and motivations really changed my opinion about him, and Im quite comendative of his mindset he could really apply himself into anything and be successful at it with enough time and enough people reigning him in.
0 likesI hope we get to see his entrepenural endevours thrive elsewhere.
we need more creators like U, lindsay elles, red letter media ect.. keep up the good work! shout ot Fandom menace
1 likeI fucking love the effort and research you put in your videos
0 likesEmp you’ve been on the website for a long time you deserve some respect
0 likesActually there‘s a really interesting story around Gradeaundera too.
4 likesJust like Leafy‘s reputation got ruined by IDubbbz, Grade‘s reputation got ruined by a smaller Youtuber called Reactor. There‘s a really interesting video explaining how that guy tricked Reddit multiple times and made a fake Grade Video run as an ad on grades channel leading to an expose.
Now that I've seen this video, I think that leafy was a cancer on YouTube, but an alright dude, with Tommy's points, I think if he is more careful with his fans, and makes good content, he would be a good YouTube channel.
1 likeLeafy was here,
And Calvin will come.
phenomenal work like always my man
1 likeDear mr. Lemon I love your videos to me someone who was never often online, you are a YouTube gatekeeper. Non of my friends get it I think your videos are genius, but they just see it as a 41 minute video on leafy
0 likesUsually when someone makes a video that is over 30 minutes long it is extremely slow paced boring and they repeat the same points over and over again. but you managed to make the leafy video fast pasted fun and entertaining to. Kudos to you emperor of the lemons.
0 likesWhat a great video. Tommy's interview was super insight imo
2 likesAlso yay my question was featured and answered!
This was a great video. I would love for leafy to make one more video as leafy, we’re he goes on and says “hey guys sorry I’ve been gone for a while but look at this kid here!” I would love that shit! But I would definitely like a “Calvin” too. That would be a great channel that I think has the potential to go a long way.
1 like26:20 I would love to make a platform where all the normies get left behind on YouTube and all the good content creators go to the new platform. If I made one I would invite Emp.
0 likesYea I am one of those new subscribers. Great content mate. The news vid was pretty great aswell so I don't think I'm gonna ever unsub. Keep dis up!!
2 likesYour videos have convinced me that Leafy/Calvin might be one of the most interesting figures in recent memory. I hope he finds a resurgence in popularity in some form.
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I understand what you're saying but I don't want someone as toxic as he resurfacing
5 likesI liked leafy and i want him to come back, i dont know why i just do.
4 likesI believe what we're seeing now is his resurgence. I know for a fact that if I was Leafy: I'd be enjoying this temporary restoration of fame.
7 likesMatt Sepan The Hylian I want him to come back so I can see how he changed, but I wouldn't watch his content regularly.
1 likeUmi ZoomR it's like you didn't even watch the video. 2/3 of the video was literally people talking about him and how he was totally different than what he showed on YouTube. The short attention span strikes again. If you actually watched the video you'd know.
1 likeIf leafy is going to resurface, l hope leafy changes. I’m sure he knows that if he keeps acting edgy, he’ll just get sabotaged.
1 likeI honestly like the long lengthy videos. Love to listen while doing other things.
0 likesIt's kind of sad how Youtube success and fame can bring out this "revenge side" out of so many people. I wish it brought out the good.
0 likesThere is always more then meets the eye. Facinating Story
41 likesI'm one of those new subs from the leafy vid, I saw it a few days ago and since then ive watched a fuck ton of your videos and i love them. Keep doing what you do, Emp!
0 likesBelieve it or not I found your channel looking up old YTP a month ago. I watched a few YouTube Geographic vids and now I'm here to stay. Keep up the good work!
0 likesWell after the leafy interview with keem, you were dead right. He had a lot of issues with youtube. He made enough money to invest, and life off, so felt no more need to force himself to make more videos on a platform that wanted him gone. He said he doesn't think he'll come back, but that he MIGHT at some day.
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Neiasaurus Creations it’s good that he saves his money unlike ricegum who realized that his numbers were shrinking and wouldn’t be there forever, so he did what any logical person would do and sponsor fake gambling to kids
0 likesTommy C’s commentary leveled the video to the next level. Great vid emp.
2 likesWoah dude, another layer into Leafy
1 likeThis seems to touch on a lot of what other people said in the day too, even though he's nowhere near as bad as people said he was.
I don't know how you do it, but you genuinely keep me interested in the video the entire hour.
0 likes"I've never heard of this guy" is what I say every time I watch one of his videos. Then I remember.
1 likeBeen here since the initial behind the meme rant (around april-may 2017)
1 likeI really like these commentary videos, you also make funny ytps, do not stop those, but your commentary vids are also great
You benefitted from leafys fall 😂 but you made some good content my guy, keep up the good work 😎
1 likeI subbed because I adore the documentary style you used on your leafy was here video, it was clever and well stated and got me watching your other vids >w>
12 likesMan, this is really good. You really got a good journalistic perspective on this one, especially with all of the people you were able to connect to. I'm really enjoying all of these, and I think that there are some deeper themes that were hit here. Not only was this about one person's fall from grace, but this became a story of betrayal, corruption, greed, and sacrifice.
0 likesIt is so interesting to see people slowly morph from someone who is innocent to someone controlling millions of people in a very malicious way. I can't believe how something so innocuous as YouTube that is just trying to entertain- and through lack of societal awareness, lack of care for individualism, lack of interest in improving the overall quality of the site for reasons other than a bottom line, and dangling the most massive prize in front of the socially inept could lead to such a toxic environment that negatively affected so many people.
This stuff is what I really love to hear about, man. I love the Beethoven too. Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 op 92 has to be one of my favorite pieces.
After hearing this I respect leafy a lot more than I did, I’d actually be open to seeing what he’s like now if he were to come back to YouTube.
0 likesTo be honest I was exepcting the video to just be in this circle of the community but wow am I suprised and I guess happy it's gotten this amount of exposure.
0 likesEven when I was a naive dumbass kid (still am) I just enjoyed hearing Leafy speak about some topics. When I watched the Content Cop I was confused on why this man called iDubbz placed such a significant amount of effort on a chin. I enjoy idubbz now but I'm curious on how an expose video with half of it being a fucking meme opened the gates to stabbing Leafy. I guess it was just the cutthroat game Leafy played, you trust someone then the weasel betrays you.
0 likesEver since the content cop I've wondered what Leafy's next move would be, where he went. I'm glad to hear him doing well.
He was the greatest legend, tragedy, and asshole of all time. RIP Leafy
0 likesThis is why I am subscribed to Emp for that unique content on this god forsaken site
1 like... Man, now I just feel bad for Leafy. Like, I watched a lot of his videos in the past and whilst they were edgy and mean and condescending, they were always entertaining and he was always such a lively and interesting person. I didnt even really keep up with the YouTube drama back then, I just watched him for his content because he was just some edgy boi like me, almost like a sort of persona for how I viewed myself at the time. I imagine that probably says a lot about me, but aye, he was still human. Cold for sure, but I dont think of him as some frank asshole that doesnt sugarcoat shit. He was very charming and charismatic to the point that i didnt even really give a shit about what his chin looked like until Idubbz pointed it out. Its sucks what happened to him, but at least he left the YouTube scene very well off.
0 likesSee you space cowboy.
Was amazed with the fact that you collabed with mumkey and your commentary on the mumkey jones rise, fall video was great had a great time watching the video with both of you together. You should collab with him more often.
0 likesYou can make that Mumkey Geographic now.
4 likesYou are one of the few youtubers I can watch an hour long video from.
0 likesI feel like i could give leafy a second chance, despite never giving him a chance in my mind.
0 likesIt seems incredibly silly, but all I can say now is I'm already nostalgic for youtube in 2015-2016. I never watched leafy regularly and I didn't think his content was that great, but he was a much bigger part of that edgier counter-culture at the time than I realized. h3h3, filthy frank, idubbbz, maxmoefoe, and grade a under a included. It may have been the prime era of shit reaction and "prank" channels, and long past the prime of amateur animators and non-corporate youtube, but it was still a more fun place where a counter-culture could actually become somewhat popular under-the-radar. Ever since the mass demonetizations of mid-to-late 2016, the adpocalypse, vine shutting down and the viner invasion of 2017, and countless small youtube tweaks, youtube from 2017 to the present as I write this is a far cry from what it was just a couple years ago. So many people, even some of the most popular youtubers seem kind of burnt out and are just waiting for the next youtube tweak right around the corner that will decimate amateur and passionate creators and promote fake celebrities and sterile TV-like content. With all of that, this has been a fascinating series, Emperor Lemon. I like the direction your channel is going in.
6 likesI must say EmpLemon, I really enjoy your form of discussion videos. While the editing style that you have created for yourself is absolutely fascinating and engaging as viewer to watch, for me it is the topics that you choose and the arguments that you bring to the table that I really appreciate. I only recently discovered you, mainly because of your Leafy video, but I can say that your content is one that truly makes the viewer have to think. It's hard to find YouTubers like that today. I have yet to get into your YouTube Poops, as that never really was something that I was into, but watching your other videos where you discuss the creative process behind them made me have a new form of respect for them. With all that said, thanks for making the content that you do and please keep doing what makes you happy. And if I ever stop watching you for any reason in the future, I promise that I will unsubscribe.
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Nemo Unkown you are one true individual
0 likesI never thought id say this, but i actually feel kind of bad for leafy.
1 likeIt's really interesting to hear about what Calvin was behind LeafyisHere, and it's just kind of sad that we never really got to see that part of him, and likely never will, as from the sounds of it. As even if he has passion for things like esports, he seems to lack any kind of actual creative drive. I think it'd be far more likely that he'd do something more along the lines of founding his own esports team or sponsoring events (after all, he has the money to do it), I just don't see him ever making videos unless he really gets a feel for it.
0 likes22:09 this aged poorly
5 likesYou don't have to worry about your videos being censored because I have at least 1 YouTube Geographic and 1 YTP Collab recommended to me wherever I go on YouTube
6 likesI feel like I can completely relate to leafy, not on his thoughts but on the kid of person he is. I'd like to meet him if I could, and have a nice conversation about science
0 likesAlso, I feel like leafy leaving YouTube was like when Tywin died in Game of thrones. The Tyrell's and Sparrows took over
It was the perfect coverup as content cop came out... That was a great video emp
0 likesI like in depth videos. I watched this video over 3 or more sittings for one reason or another. I would just come back and see more. I like videos this long
1 likeYa'll know Billy the Fridge? He said on stream that Leafy just games now and is investing in Crypto Currency and that he's doing fine and is okay.
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We don't feel bad for him in regards to his financial status but more so about how much he was slandered and shit on for playing the YouTube game. He made questionable decisions, but like both Clown and Tommy said, many others criticizing him were just as bad if not worse.
81 likesYou can look at Logan Paul and Jake Paul, both of which are around Leafy's age and are extremely popular online entertainers averaging millions of views a video much like Leafy was, and you can make the comparison and see how minuscule Leafy's mistakes and content flaws were compared to the Paul's.
I hope he returns as himself, the witty, intelligent, entrepreneur that Tommy described.
Strelok Audio Design I don’t think you get why people are interested in him.
16 likesMason Yomama if I knew about Jake and Logan in 2016 I would hate them infinitely more than leafy
22 likesHate to be that guy, but, *Y'all
3 likesThat was during Drunken Peasants right?
0 likesYeah he talks about how he likes to get befriend people despite the negative reception, he gets along with a lot of people, I mean just look at the newer guests on DP they're from all over the place
2 likesWhen Keemstar interviewed Leafy about half a year ago, i remember leafy saying he's gotten heavily into cryptocurrency
1 likeHe was smart. He got millions of dollars and dipped.
1 likeAlso, I’m starting to see a multitude of videos like this Leafy Documentary showing up recently. Emp, I think you have started a new genre, and it’s growing FAST.
1 likeYour documentaries are more poignant and honest than PBS' could ever hope to be.
1 likeIt seems as though the videos you make that have more effort put into them than usual are the ones that go viral. That is very rare sir.
3 likesI watch a lot of your videos multiple times they're just so good
1 likeI recently discovered your channel through your leafy video and watched a bunch of them I personally loved the meme theory on Donald trump and personally I love the length of your videos
1 likeIf he tried again on youtube with his genuine personality, I don't think anyone would throw too big a fit.
0 likesWhile it definitely looks like Youtube censored Leafy, I'm still not clear on why that's a bad thing. He was a cancer on this website and his videos did nothing but bolster the little angry shitsters who watched his videos and told people to kill themselves over nothing. All this ironically cringy "cringe culture" was almost kickstarted by Leafy like you said in the original video, and that's certainly not a good thing.
0 likesHandwaving all that by claiming Leafy's content is just "mature, non-typical Youtube content that the big bad Youtube execs don't want" is some dissonant bullshit. Plenty of other content creators make mature content and do perfectly fine because - and I want you to say it with me - they aren't making fame and fortune from bullying.
And EmpLemon, in doing this, your video appeals less to those who would like to be wary of censorship and more to those who don't see any of Leafy's wrongdoings as wrongdoings. Plenty of people here would like to throw the word "snowflake" around because bullying content appeals to whatever fucked-up insecurities they carry around and they don't like seeing their favorite medium tampered with by those who would like to discourage the indecency Leafy stirred up.
Hey Emp what would you say was the hardest you’ve ever laughed making a video? Random question
0 likesI have lost so much faith in Youtube over the years and how it’s run and the ppl gaining major popularity cough Logan. But there are still some good youtubers who make good content and you Emplemon actually expose the bullshit that screwed others like leafy over the years. These fucking normies...
0 likesWow, a 1 hour and 30 second video? That's too looooooong.
1 like1 hour and 30 seconds later
Wow, nice video, Emp! Keep up the good work.
great video, I enjoyed it even more than the last one
0 likesI personally like longer videos cuz it gives me something to listen to in the background
1 likeIt's so satisfying to finally get a sense of closure as to what happened to the guy. I'm just glad the poor bastard didn't off himself after the Autistic drama bandwagon
3 likesI was still a leafy fanboy through the content cop and even through the nick cash stuff (mostly because I was twelve) so I didn’t develop a massive hatred for leafy. I actually think I only started forming a negative opinion of him in the summer of 2017. But this video has really turned me around to now having a positive opinion of him. He was just a guy who got in over his head and let the fame get to him. I feel like this hate bandwagon give people a false vision of what leafy is actually like. I’m not defending leafys past actions, (a lot of them seemed to be to help his views and subs rise) but I am saying that I feel like leafy got way more hate than he deserved even though he still deserved some hate. Most people see leafy as a scumbag who bullied children and used people and was thrown by idubbbz Into a fumbling downward spiral. But that’s not the way I see it like I said. He’s more interesting than that and I’d love to see what he would do if he ever returned. I think back then I was jsut being fed information that I never fully understood because I was younger (I’m only 14 now but I’m still older). So to end this I guess I can say that the internet has a really skewed way of looking at him and it’s one I dislike.
1 likeIm going to be interested if leafy sees emps videos and his friends words and decides to come back. Idubbbz is publically credited for killing leafy, emplemon could be credited for reviving him lmao
3 likesI’ve seen a difference in how your videos are being just now recommend to me. Before your videos would be rarely to never recommend now there quite a bit more. So what I think is yt is trying to cover up the censorship that was originally intended for you and other content creators.
2 likesyour a good person, don't lose yourself man
1 likeI discovered your channel through Behind the Meme (I did see the Uncredibles before, but I never paid attention to your channel at the time).
0 likesThe LeafyisHere video was your next million view video. I feel like if you talk about any infamous YouTuber for drama, Montizon is pleased.
But in all seriousness, I absolutely loved your Leafy video and congratulations for the new 50k subs from the video. Hope the YouTube Geographic series continues.
well... i don't think Leafys "comeback" was the best
2 likesHonestly both of your videos on leafy made me gain some respect for him and If he does ever come back I'd give his videos a watch.
0 likesI could never watch the leafy content cop and to this day I never have...
4 likesYet another good one pal. Keep up the good sewage water. As a fellow outsider, you rock mah dude.
1 likethis video made me feel good
34 likes"Pour yourself a glass of downward spiral"
4 likesOn a separate note, the classical music was well chosen.
4 likesSomething that I think SHOULD have been mentioned here was that simply put, Leafy was an enigma of an enigma. He wasn't like meiAIDS with his posting but he also wasn't like Pewdiepie in his shifts (in terms of success). Calvin simply put, kind of became a YouTube anomaly like the Neutral Stance video. For all intents and purposes, there was little reason WHY he should've gotten as far as he did but somehow he managed to create such a warpath and practically brought in a new age of drama channels and the side genre of reviewing things from the sidelines, may it be for games or for Youtube itself (Much like you yourself Emp). In the end, I don't think that we will EVER truly know what happened to Calvin because we cannot be inside his head. Add that in with sociopathic behaviors and so on and we now have an even bigger anomaly on our hands. I think that this video however (along with the past Geographic), really explained a lot about Calvin in a different perspective and that in a way, he was a metaphorical explosion. He was bright, loud and jaw dropping but just as suddenly as he came, he left without a single trace. And in a way, that's a kind of beauty that few can pull off.
1 likeI've been following you ever since the uncredibles poop, man I love how your channel has evolved (still love your ypts :3).
1 likethere is an easier way than watch time to gauge content quality, it is called view duration, as in how much of the video was viewed not how long. Sure one second videos would blow up but the algorithim was abused when the lets players exploded and then the reactors exploded.
0 likesListening to Tommy i recognized a lot of things in leafy that i see in myself
1 likeWhat if EmpLemon was leafy this whole time.
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August Hill emplemon has funke's voice, and there's a theory that says leafy and funke are the same.
39 likesFeuer Freund yea, funke knows that as well.
3 likesAre you guys talkibg about tf2 funke?
6 likesJon then that yes
6 likesYeah funke, the cheese man, the unepic
0 likesLol had the same theory too.
0 likesDon’t listen to anyone when they say to make the videos shorter. The long videos can be so entertaining and interesting and I just can’t understand how people don’t bother to stick around
0 likesDamn I haven’t seen content so in depth for a while
8 likesI actually like your longer videos. There pretty interesting to me.
1 likeEmpLemon has one of the most beautiful voices of YouTube.
10 likesI wanted this video never to end
0 likescollosal's comment really shines a dark light on this chapter in history
2 likesI don’t have any memes to type in the comment section but I’ll say that I absolutely love you’re content man keep it up!
1 likei found your channel a few years back, but forgot about it for a while and then i re-found you like last month, and here we are. nice to see you again friend.
0 likesNow can Mumkey get a documentary?
2 likesIt's really interesting this content and i subbed because of the last leafy version ❤️
2 likes🎵 Watch time killed the Animation Star 🎵
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Never thought I'd see that song referenced.
16 likesMe don't get it
0 likes@slimpback99 no..? that song is referenced a fuck ton to the point of "video killed the radio star" being a commonly used idiom lol
3 likesOh really? So THAT's why I've never seen it referenced in a youtube comment section. A "commonly used idiom"? I don't care.
0 likesEmperorlemon killed the meme stars
4 likesI watched on my pc back 08 lying awak intent in tuning on you if i was yong it didn't stop you comi g threw
0 likes@Slimp chill bro why are you getting mad over the phrase "video killed the radio star"
0 likes@hutek lol a better question is why are you replying to a 2 year old comment
0 likesI found you through the Behind the Meme video. I subscribed for the absolute dankest memes I've ever seen. You, sir, are a god.
2 likesI'd really like to see him come back in the new way that Tommy C talked about. I was a big fan of him back in the day. Leafy, Pyrocinical, and some others like Grade to a lesser extent in the commentary community, helped me a little when I was at the beginning of a very dark and depressing time in my life that even two, three years later is still somewhat with me today. I've been through a lot of shit with family, other close people I see as family and all sorts of situations and thoughts prompting me to often want suicide. I was literally having a real life mental downward spiral, but these guys were there to make me laugh and make my day at least a bit lighter. so I wouldn't want anyone in the commentary scene to just disappear like that. There was a drop-off point however (I think December 2016 in my personal feeling) the commentary community really hit an extreme low in how repetitive, boring and tired it felt. Things just weren't as great as they were the year before. Just remembering watching a Leafy video or a Pyrocinical video in early 2016 gives me such nostalgic vibes and sometimes I go back to look at them. You could definitely tell the magic had depleted by the end of the year sadly. I'm open to seeing a different side of Calvin. One that makes more insightful content and doesn't just wear out the type of content he's producing.
0 likes18:24
3 likesThis timestamp came back to haunt me today.
Leafy's comeback is like when kanye released my beautiful dark twisted fantasy after being in hawaii for a long time
1 likei actually love long videos though. must be a side affect of liking documentaries or something.
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MediocreSon Same
1 likeI don't say this about many youtube channels, but dude, ur videos are 100% worth spending an hour watching
0 likesYou kidding Emperor i say finally a YouTuber i could get into again. Youtube chasing hollywood when it should have done the Opposite.
1 likeI really loved the Leafy video, you talked about some stuff that no one really ever thought about before that.
0 likesHey Emp! you probably won't see this, as i'll be drowned in a wave of comments soon, but i've been around since the older days of spongebob poops and such, and I want to say no matter what way your channel goes, I will always support you!
0 likesUnless you turn into Buzzfeed.
This might be really unpopular but I feel that YouTube's inside job against Leafy was perfectly justified. Just like you mentioned in your YouTube Geographic, there's no way videos with Leafy's format should have been so popular, yet they were. I assume YouTube must have tolerated him up to the point with Tommy's incident and H3H3's incident.
0 likesYouTube as a corporation makes a lot of shitty decisions, but I'd be on board with burying someone who has low-effort videos that only serve to punch down, making fun of other content creators and casual users who didn't have the same following and influence as them.
Got closure and feels. <3 Thank you.
0 likesYou know after watching the Leafywashere geographic over and over plus watching this made me curious too if Leafy's subs subbed to you and if so what are their thoughts after seeing your Leafywashere geographic and hearing your thoughts of what you said about YouTube blackballing him and how you feel after this site has change really rarely with their algorithm and context and what not.
1 likeI don’t understand how youtube can contradict themselves so much
0 likesleafy is a good example of fame going to someones head
16 likeskeep those long ass videos coming Emp
1 likeDon't worry, as a good fan four videos came into my recommended, don't worry emp, you got some of your videos in my recommended, I hope you are happy
0 likesI always watch the whole full video.
0 likesNo matter how long or short if you make them.
9:25 i watched the whole thing 3 times now. your script, editing and music chohices are awsome. (notice me senpai you're my favorite channel)
0 likesYou should have put this video in the gaming category
12 likesi'm not crying, you're crying.
3 likes18:30 he predicted leafys return
4 likesMake more Youtube Geographic!
2 likesemp lemon is the dankest youtube of memetown, he's content is like looking at the remnants of an ancient civilization. back when youtube content wasn't as main stream, and was the freshest source of original content on the planet. praise key and all the meme gods of the inter web long live the emp of lemons.
0 likesI will admit at one point of time I did enjoy Leafy's content but I did loose interest over time and forgot about him until the Content Cop episode. That's just my personal experience.
0 likesAlways a pleasure to watch 👌
0 likesExcellent video tommy was great in this even though I used to hate him back in the day
0 likes2016, what a time to be alive
1 likeWell, he actually came back. Probably a one of thing but, I don’t think anyone expected that.
1 likeAs long as you didn't go full h3h3 I would love to see a podcast narrated by you
1 likeDamn... Calvin sounds like a person I'd really want to have a conversation with ::::/ let that fucking sink in, L e a f y, holy shit. I felt very comfortable when Tommy C spoke, he sounded very mature (should have asked him about the chin meme). Thank you for the one hour vid, it is very appreciated (::::B
0 likesTommy c ready to reach out and talk about someone? Nahhh
7 likesMust be someone else...
You've gained 100k since I've found you recently lol. You're about to blow up dude
7 likesi watched the geographic twice just because i felt bad for being a hardcore leafy fan back in the day
0 likesthank you for making good shit
2 likeswe like the fact that you said something new
1 likenot the same shit being said over 9000 times
Leafy really does sound like an interesting person. It's satisfying to know that Leafy's story has a happy ending...for now, at least.
4 likesGreat video please make more and the parts were you I interviewed other YouTubers was great keep up the great content
0 likesDamm, that colossal testemony was weird. This is a case where its more and more interesting the more we go down the rabbit hole. I see leafy more a gamer than most gaming channels, and looks like youtube was just an other tycoon game for him. He has extreme charisma,and if he wouldnt do the kids stuff he would be still here. And the drama he generated was way way way enjoyable than these paul and paul clone ones. He milked this shit, and he has the audience to milk it again.
0 likesI love that he came back and then near instantly got terminated
0 likesI don't really know why but this video left me strangely sad. Maybe it's because Calvin has helped through a very difficult time in my life and when I got home from another shitty ass day and got the notification that he uploaded a video idk it just made everything bearable. Hearing that he didn't/doesn't care about his fanbase is kinda hard although I know that I don't know him personally, never did and never will, his online persona rlly meant a lot to me at some point in my life.
1 likeSuper glad to hear that he's alright and happy with his life, his girlfriend and his time on YouTube. Maybe he'll upload another video, maybe he won't, either way I wish him all the best.
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Linucs x I never really liked him, but I can't wait for him to come back.
0 likesaround the 26:00 the first thing that popped into my head was how YouTube finally put the nail in the coffin of Million Dollar Extreme :(
1 likeSo, a few random-yet-serious questions:
0 likes1) What would it take for someone to buy YouTube, if possible?
2) If it is possible to buy YouTube, is there a chance that a collaborative kickstarter by YouTubers and members of the community could potentially raise enough money over time to buy the site?
what an insight to be honest I was on the bandwagon on hating him but deep inside i know he was a good guy. I was actually watching him before he stopped after people left his channel. His content was the same at least he isn't making drama anymore. to be honest I was hating on him until I realized most commentary channels are kind of sound the same. I kind of search for more commentary channels and surprisingly I found better commentary channel that have like 10k subscribers. I personally find some of them better than the ones that have over 200k subs. The most underrated youtuber imo is therandomshark. I was a fan of leafy and after the hate on him died down I became a fan again but sadly it was the time when he was burnt out of youtube and left without even telling us. His content might not be good for other but to me he was the most genuine youtuber than the commentary channels now especially before he blew up. I was sub to him before he hit 100k and at a time my youtube acc was different I kind of forgot the password and user. At that time I think his content was 100 miles better than the ones he made on kids. At the time he had passion on his content. He was genuine and at that that the time he seems like he was enjoying telling stories to us. I was a sub before he started drama and I'm still subbed till this day. After his downfall and people thought he was the devil scum and I was on that bandwagon but I didn't hate him like others did. I knew he was a good guy I just think he just made a huge fucked up mistake. He did started as a guy who's like every other average person and ended as one of us. I'm sad that the mistake he made ruined him and some of his fans then never gave him a chance to redeem himself. I kinda miss him and want him back. Thanks for reading..
0 likes22:04 Wow, this aged… interestingly.
1 likeWHAT IS UP EVERYBODY, THIS IS THE MOST BAD ASS PODCAST, COMING TO YOU STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART OF EUROPE, MY NAME IS TOMMY C, and turkey tom is cool.
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HOLY SHIT ITS TURKEY TOM! A question, are you a real turkey, or did you lie to us and actually is a Tom Turkey
13 likesB U R K E Y B O M
0 likesTurkey Tom ✌️✌✌✌
0 likesTriple A Me???????????????
0 likesTurkey are you A?
0 likesTurkey Tom hey do you know anxietytv
0 likesTurkey Tom gay
0 likesAnother channel that pivots itself on YouTube drama and nothing else, great! We needed of more of those!
4 likesJake Paul
0 likesNo, wait...Ricegum. Yeah, irrelevant.
0 likesAlso Vice City was the shit! Used to play the hell out of it on the Xbox when I was a kid.
0 likeshi turkey tom!
0 likeshey its mr.enter
2 likesJacob P. Nerd
1 likeayyyyy
0 likesholy shit 400 likes
0 likesJacob P. On the Xbox? You got real class since that’s practically the best version besides PC
1 likeTurkey Tom more like Family
0 likesGuy Tord (i regret nothing)
Its the leafy of the Animation community!
0 likesare you a Turkey?
0 likesWell you can certainly do a Mumkey Jones YouTube Geographic now
1 likeYou should do a YouTube geographic on Onision. Lol
2 likesI'm glad that channels like you exist
0 likesI watched 11 minutes of this last night and passed out now I’m back to watch another 11 😎
0 likesI’m not sure if anyone noticed but I think he had a rage moment in the background gameplay at 13:49 because he somehow didn’t win the round and after that loss the gameplay quality really dropped down for that game😂
1 likeGreat video as always man. Keep up the good work. Also, nice Bloons gameplay lmao.
1 likeOoh, I love these long ones. Can't get enough of you talking :3
0 likesSo no more political channels but jimmy kimmel and biased cnn get to stay? HmMmMMMmm
5 likesi see, leafy is a tragic person. youtube is more of a monster than i thought
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The Flame Silver Hunter have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth leafy the corrupted ? That's not a story the YouTube staff would tell you
0 likesyeah i heard, he was once a minecraft youtuber, until he made a video about google, and since then, he got more views from hating other, and lost side of what he was before, idubbbz made a video, he prove that he can hate other, but not hate himself, quite ironic it really was
0 likesI guess I'm technically a "new" subscriber but I've been watching your videos for years.
0 likesThis almost made me cry, leafy was just a guy making videos on youtube, sad what happened to him.
5 likes(I know another comment already said this) but can we get one more "hissss"
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Hisssssss. I love him and miss him.
0 likesI remember I was a subscriber to Leafy minutes before he hit his peak. I found that odd circle of YouTubers who’d hit their blow up point and then all of a sudden just go for racing others throats.
0 likesIt was 2016 and I actually came back to YouTube after being off it for a few years thinking it was just some kiddie website, I come back to find it was more than that but to also see it’s changed into the monopoly it would eventually become. I found interest in Luna, Leafy, Pyrocynical, HWYM, Dramaalert, NFKRZ, Colossaliscrazy, and Grade A Under A, Idddubz, Jameskii
I like many others got caught up in that stupid ass beef shit between Leafy and the dog fucker, the goth dude, and all the others who got on DramaAlert. Soon everyone else was in on the Leafy hate train. I didn’t leave because of the Idddubz Content Cop I left because of the stale content. I left Dramaalert because I realized it’s not worth my time. HWYM called out Luna on shit I can’t even remember but it was stupid so I ended up just leaving both of them.
It’s weird, sitting in 2018, just sitting here looking at all those who managed to change up their content and survive. Idddubz isn’t very active, Pyrocynical is just a wild card, and Colossal and Grade A are pretty much gone. It’s weird seeing how some channels like Luna still seem to survive while being almost identical to their old selves. All the drama is just fabricated now, what’s this site become? Vloggers, politics, and click bait, back then it was more Creator friendly when it came to artists and animations.
But that’s just the cycle.
Make money on the newest trend -> kill your old assets that aren’t worth what they used to be -> and repeat.
I feel like YouTube has become the mainstream entertainment industry, it just shows the true greed and demon in all of us.
Aw man, all those flash games gave me nostalgia.
2 likes27:42 they could do it because enough of the commentary community hated leafy so they believed nobody would really care. even a lot of leafy's fanbase didn't like him that much so it would look natural if a channel that got millions of views a video suddenly started getting ~400k-700k views a video and nobody would really seem to care.
0 likesI just subbed and came from your leafy video, the only reason I knew about your leafy video is because someone mentioned in a video saying how great it was, I can't remember who...
0 likesBut I'm glad I took the time to search your channel!
Reactor took care of GradeAUnderA look into it 😂
33 likesAaaah... the one thing that makes me relax... unscripted commentary over random game footage
0 likesThis is such an amazing video !!!
1 likeWould you say that you've finally climbed up from the pits of the downward spiral and have bloomed like the lotus flower or something like that mate?
0 likesTo confirm your paranoia, I have every way to see the notification of you posting a video, yet I hadn't even seen this until I was 2 hours in, watching other gaming videos that weren't even commentaries, and this wasn't even in the recommended section.
0 likesI think one should take care when questioning every official statement from an organization. Not that I disagree that YouTube probably almost always has ulterior, less attractive motives behind many of their decisions. It's just not good to default to disbelief. Try rather, to default to non-belief, or not-knowing. Yes, question, "does this hold up? Could something else explain this?" But do not automatically say "this must be a lie! What possibly could their ulterior motives be?"
0 likesthis video has been removed for violating community guide lines
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appeal rejected
19 likesLol js watch they are gunna take this video down and give him a strike cause he is saying the truth about how they suppress channles
6 likes⚠️ Removing a video with a strike won’t get rid of the strike.
5 likesRON RoNiNgton and Hurting our feelings. Wah wah keep watching though especially since we have a monopoly on Video Sharing Media.
1 likeThe Gronx 😁
1 likeyou just got naenaed el lmao - YouTube
3 likeswoah! i am personally good friends with "sdx darkus"! its crazy that wonderful bastard actually made it on an emplemon video!!
1 likeedit: tbh i wouldent mind a return from leafy. he made alot of wrong turns, but i think that he was a decent enough person, and i would be more then willing to give him another chance! at the very least it would be interesting
I love your videos emp your channel is legendary
0 likesim one of the new 50,000....keep doing what your doing Emp...very informative
0 likesWell the BIG question is what are the thoughts of the man who supposedly Decapitated this Python, Idubbbz
1 likeDude you put a lot of effort into a video and it showed. Well done, it was good, it deserves a surge in subs.
0 likesHowever, this video just feels like a weird ego trip. You didn't do anything new or innovative but you did do something very well and to a high standard. Just chill man, keep putting in effort and don't let it go to your head.
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what do you mean it feels like a weird ego trip?
0 likesbut how?
0 likesIts not about attention spam, its more about the time we have.
3 likesHonestly i loved leafy then i hated him now from your videos on him im intrigued now ill be definently watching to see if he returns now
0 likesI have actually been getting my notification bell undone on numerous channels, including this one without me doing anything, and subsequently I've been missing a lot of their/ your videos
1 likeI have to say after this video I see leavy in a more sympathetic light because in the end we are all Human
1 likeI would be interested in a podcast by leafy considering some of the things mentioned
1 likeI find it interesting how you describe YouTube as corrupt for censoring toxic producers. Then you immediately proceeded to blame YouTube for creating these toxic people. Leafy could have easily cleaned up his act and maintained his viewership/visibility but he chose not to conform to YouTube's paradigm. I don't understand how you can blame YouTube for this
0 likesI have a moderately short attention span, but EmpLemon could hold it for hours on end. <3
0 likesAlso yea, after working my first job for only just a year now, I can say that I was a worse person beforehand, and that is mostly from my understanding of how to treat other people (and myself ;/ ) is much better now. Even if I still get super stressed and fuck up sometimes hahaha. At least I know how to disable downward spirals in my brain and be non-toxic.
Shit im so glad I watched this it changed my mind even more than the geographic. After being one of his fans at 10 years old this all fascinates me wildly and brings back nostalgia.
6 likesI still remember playing minecraft with his rants going on in the backround xD
Ps. I am literally a baby in this situation I'm twelve
very nice soundtrack choice. perfect for this kind of vidz.
2 likesholy hell, playing all of these MaxGames is a blast from the plast
1 likeI love when he uploads long ass videos
1 likejust watched the whole video, u suck at the flash games (ecks dee)
0 likeshowever i did find the whole video entretaining and did help me see leafy in a new light
personally i didn't watch this whole drama unfold, but i was aware of it so i saw leafy as a "evil sociopath" like many others
anyway thank you for making a great video (yet again) and thank you for knowing how to make real, good content.
69:18 "random quote from the video" I laughed till I literally pissed my pants
0 likesThat bit about the Mumkey Jones YouTube Geographic hits different now. I hope we get it some day.
1 likeThis. Is the best. Video ever. I'm being dead serious. Everyone should watch this if they're curious about Leafy.
0 likesYou're not allowed to be mad at fake fight-based Youtube drama when your favorite sport is WWE lmao
0 likesalot of times when i watch 50 + minute videos i think "Oh im not going to end upw atching all this" and then i do just that
0 likesThx for the great vids keep up the great work
0 likesI loved the video so much I watched the whole leafy was here video 3 times
0 likesIt's like giving peasants a crown and seeing how they react
0 likesCongratulations on successfully riding the downward spiral
8 likesDamn, he's finally telling people to actually subscribe
0 likesNow I really feel bad for Leafy. Bullied off the platform on top of YouTube killing his channel.
0 likesI think I might be misunderstanding you but forming a narrative and then finding evidence to support it is a piss poor way to research things. I’m pretty sure that is how we get things like yellow journalism and pseudo-science.
0 likesLet me just say that you're leafy Youtube Geographic video is the absolute best video I have ever seen on this website. In fact, this type of video has been making me think about my channel and how I can actually make great content that connect to others in a way I can tell it. It reminds me of the time when I watched a music video about Cedar Point the best amusement park that I've ever visited up to this point. I remember how it got my attention and inspired me to go to Cedar Point for the very first time. Frankly great videos like these I rarely found on a website like YouTube but when they do come out, they leave the best impressions on people and creators like myself. In that regard I'd like to shift my continent so that I spend time developing my own craft, style, and personal unique voice to YouTube instead of making weekly videos that are nowhere near as good as something that I would consider to be a great work. Your channel is a great inspiration for me to find ways to create my own voice on YouTube and while my content currently isn't up to my own standards most of the time, there are glimpses of creativity where my distinct voice can be heard. The most creative video I've done is a music video about Kentucky Kingdom amusement park that has the some of the best roller coasters I've ever been on. I had a lot of fun with this video and in retrospect I'd like to make more of those videos for my channel and spend some more time just being a Down to Earth person sharing my experiences and life lessons. Thank you Emplemon for all that you do on your Channel. I eagerly look forward to your next project.
0 likesGameplay on the background yet the category is not set to Gaming. Too much of a respectable man Lemon.
21 likesThese two videos about leafy are so fucking interesting, Tommy has made me very interested in Calvin and who he is as a real person
0 likesthis was a really great vid
0 likesthanks emp +1
Thank you Emperor Lemon, very cool!
0 likes22:07 this didn't age well
2 likesThis really was an interesting follow up!
0 likesWorth my 60 minutes. Amazing.
1 likeI found you when you broke YouTube with a giraffe
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Dull Bones it worked then , nice
0 likesPrincess Applestrach yeah lmao I couldn't get it off the top spot in my most recommended for a few weeks even after watching it and telling YouTube I already watched it or I wasn't interested. Emp is a genius
1 likeCame for behind the meme
0 likesStayed for the downward spiral
It's kinda funny, I remember discovering your "UNcredibles" YTPs about a year ago, and thinking they were hilarious, but it was kind of sloshed in with other meme videos, and I didn't really think of your channel as anything more than that, so I went along and sort of ignored you. But then I discovered the leafy video, and I saw your channel name, and I was like "Is this the same guy that made the incredibles YTP?" And sure enough you were lol. It's kinda funny how your content has changed so drastically. A lot of youtube channels don't change at all.
0 likesGood shit.
Excellent videos man, keep up with the mine gold
0 likesI don't mind you milking the channel. Imo you could extend it to a 12 part series and i'd still watch it.
0 likesEmplemon is truly the true voice of the people of youtube
0 likesHe's on trending now boys
2 likesDo a YouTube Geographic on the toontown ranting/hacking community of 2012-2016, the toontown community is not relevant at all but if you research enough it is VERY interesting with lots of drama, it is worth researching. If you do research this, there are a few channels and videos that are worth watching for the research.
1 like22:20 has mumk, i mean simian gone on the downward spiral yet? Is he worthy of a YouTube geographic?
1 likeI LOVE that vid ive watched it so many times probs like 5 times 😱😂😂😂😂😂ive been subbed for a bit tho :P
3 likesFor me YouTube revolves around metal, guitars, guns, and cars. Also PewDiePie other channels that make politically incorrect content or what I call logical. In music and especially the hardcore scene you have celebs now trying to cash in on reviewing gear. This is a big threat to the common man. Many of the celebs hold brand deals simply for the money. Now I’m ok with actual musicians who have brand deals and stuff like that but they have brand deals cause it’s the gear they like. These “other” kinds of “musicians” are simply being paid to say whatever. Gun channels and historical channels are also facing massive censorship of course with how PC YouTube is. But in the end half of the stuff I watch isn’t at threat as it’s “family friendly” somewhat but at least it’s not getting censored.
0 likesGrade A Under A actually has a pretty solid view count on his videos, especially his recent ones.
2 likesThe Leafy video is just something that you can't stop watching in the middle no matter what kind of attention span you have.
0 likesHonestly, Here’s a question what’s your thoughts on this GROUP and how they effected Leafy and his rep IdubbzTV, Keemstar, RiceGun, jake paul, Logan paul if Leafyishere was still here.
0 likesMy theory is your channel sort of got struck with the indirect intention of YouTube.
0 likesI think that YouTube targets one big channel and adjusts the algorithm to get rid of that channel. Channels that have similarities to the struck channel will also get affected by the change, but just not that much because the focus wasnt directly on the affecred channel.
I think channel isnt a word anymore after how many times I have repeated it. lol
22:10 This hasnt aged well
1 likeEh... I think you could've put Overwatch or Team Fortress 2 as a feature. I think that will bring more attention from the viewers but that's just me.
2 likesGreat video, why don’t you do a video on the weird career of George Miller, or also known as Filthy Frank.
1 likeYou asked if anyone saw a leafy video in their recommended recently. And funny enough i saw one after i watched your initial video on this subject. Haven't seen those in months so kinda weird. Really Nice interviews btw gave some good insight to all this mysteriousness
0 likesThe motion picture industry is the "entity" that puts ratings on movies... not "The Government". Meaning, why not you creators push to "rate" content?
0 likesI had a feeling TommyNC2010 and Tommy C were somewhat related.
0 likesI was sort of right.
I was kind of wrong.
Cool, that ad time was positioned perfectly. (What if the video ended up being demonetized?)
0 likesI bet all these newcomers don't know that you're one of the greatest YTPers if not THE greatest YTPer of all time.
0 likesI feel like I get smarter whenever I watch and emplemon vid
0 likesDamn, good shit Emp!
1 likeFuck, I thought that I had watched all of your videos but now I have a goldmine of all the censored stuff to go back and watch. Hell ye
0 likesI used to watch Leafy's minecraft pvp videos before he was popular but got tired of it and stopped.
0 likesYears later i stumbled across his channel once more when he had a few hundred thousand subscribers and struggled to believe it was the same person.
That was after he wiped all the minecraft content but i saw it all on the Way Back Machine.
Just like before i grew tired of the repetative videos and stopped watching again, occasionally dropping by now and again to see what he was doing.
One day i went on his channel for the first time in a while and watched his most recent video which just so happened to be the tommync2010 video before it got deleted.
The whole H3H3 thing happened and i watched it all but after a while i stopped watching leafy for good and assumed it was Content Cop that ended leafy like everyone else.
I've been subscribed for you for a while and never expected to see anything new about leafy but your video on him was so great and i think it was better that it was uploaded way after it all happened.
Can't wait for more of this kinda video
0 likesApparently, leafy is back, and he's popular; again
2 likesI had kept the video in my watch later playlist because it was long. I got to it a while later. I'm glad I did.
0 likesThe YouTube deep mind is always watching your channel is LITERALLY the best dude
61 likesHonesty, I’m surprised your Jimmy Kimmel video didn’t make you bigger. The points you made in that video were used by news outlets a week after it was released.
0 likesI love listening to you talk while I draw.
0 likesDamn the colossal and and tommy c. parts of this video might just be better than the whole of the other video.
0 likesThank you for this video. I love the flash games you play
1 likeLiterally, This video is Literally, like, literally the best Video on YouTube, literally
1 likeYour vids are never recommended and I never get notifications from your videos. Your channel is like the only one I'll check on daily
0 likes... probably one of the starting YouTubers most feared things is that the videos is just background noise, not interesting enough for the full attention, nor it's bad enough to find a better alternative, so brings up the dilemma, do you water down the content for the daily views and constant sub growth and constant exposure? Or will you make a more "rewatchable" video that isn't going to be spotted until a few months into the future?
0 likes55:34 "Come out as Calvin, not LeafyIsHere.", thank you
0 likes67,920▲1,124% fucking hell mate congrats mate you deserve it, and i hope you will get more
0 likesWhat if leafy comes back because of these videos? That would. Be magical
0 likesQUESTION FOR EMPLEMON!: Don't you agree this over emphasis on child friendly content makes YouTube more suseptable to these Logan Paul incidents. You know with these hoards of kids on the site who don't question their YouTuber. They pray to their holy god and when he fucks up because of the over inflation of their channel and how perfect they are. These kids only make it worse. So do you agree that this kids content only makes it worse?
0 likesBut I did really love your Leafy video. Your format is really good and it kept me hooked all the way through. You do really good, and the YouTube gods rewarded you "For Now."
Also yeah I never got your videos in my sub box until you stopped lampooning YouTube. Like when the Crisis was over. Like a week or so after the Jake Paul incident. Either when you stopped or started. But for a while I wasn't seeing them. And I figured you were working on something big so I ignored it. Until I saw videos and watched them anyways and then I saw them in my Sub Feed again.
"YouTube emphasizes attractive, rich creators." >SSethzeentch's Elden Ring video reaches the top 10.
0 likesI uh, disagree with your premise.
51 minutes wasn’t long enough
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Tony 1027 agreed it felt like it was a 15 or 20min vid
1 likeAmazon is my favorite social media. Amazon and youtube are really tough competition!
0 likesHow the hell did you make the first 20 minutes feel like only 5 went by?
0 likes13:35 lmao! That's my home phone ringtone! I knew it was from some symphony. That's actually funny af.
2 likesDoes anyone know which one. Cos I can't find it in the pastebin.
It’s was such a pain watching Emp play potty racers. DID YOU REALLY PICK THE 3000 DOLLAR TRICK FIRST THAN THE 3000 DOLLAR TIRE?!?
0 likesBtw leafy saw this, when he came back he included a clip of Tommy saying Calvin would be more interesting and said are you sure?
0 likesI watched the entire ad and I clicked on it for you my love.
0 likesI think that Leafy could stream on twitch. It seems to fit his style. Maybe in a year or two from now he could be the next Shroud...
0 likesI miss leafy so much 😭
0 likesPersonally, I think YouTube is on some top-tier bullshit
5 likesRegarding GradeAUnderA, it wasn't him being a target channel that killed him. The straw that broke the camel's back was when he had his diva tantrum over at his subreddit, which he subsequently posted everywhere. His entire subreddit actually turned against him. This was also at the same time that he decided to stop posting videos, and keep claiming he'd come back "eventually".
1 likeI'm just watching the gameplay, and lvl 23 on the balloon game is actually bull shit. 14:00
0 likes13:45. he made it but it still didn't work
During the whole drama about leafy I was just far away from the whole thing.
0 likesEMPLEMON IS PAID BY LEAFY TO GET HIS NAME BACK INTO THE CIRCULATION SO IT WILL BUILD HYPE FOR HIS COMING RETURN
0 likesI wonder what collosal is crazy was talking about when he said how stupid it was that some people need to be told what's good and not good
6 likesHe was talking about Idubbbz fans who left others channels just because Idubbbz said they weren't good
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Darth Panda yeah but I'm a huge fan of leafy
2 likesDarth Panda yeah but people like the Paul's are worse
2 likesThe leafy and idubbz drama is what happens when an army of sheep led by a lion fight an army of snakes led by a leaf
1 likeI quite like the longer videos you make.
0 likesInternet Historian asks the REAL questions!
0 likesIm actually interested now to see a channel where "Leafy" is being Calvin.
1 likeso, is it time to do a mumkey geographic yet?
1 likeI don't know if I am the only one but I prefer longer videos.
1 likeDamn... I really just want to have a conversation with Calvin now... just talk to him ya know
0 likeswhen will you make a Mumkey Jones geographic...
2 likesThose flash game are probably as old as my grandpa now :(
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Did you just come back from the hospital?
4 likesY8, candy stand, xgen studios, club penguin... Those were the days..
25 likesDrugs
0 likesThe pool is close
2 likesBax365 Don't forget Electric Man!
1 likeAh yes, Y8
1 likeAll these games are on Andkon Arcade, i really hope that someone here knows about that
0 likesNewgrounds
0 likesBax365 pog.com
0 likesINB4 80 years pass
0 likeskamusta po yung pilipinas? Umalis ako sa pinas noong si pinoy pa yung presidente. Sana alagaan mo ng mabuti ang lupang sinilangan ko
0 likesThis is the kinda games that kids play now in scool instead of working
0 likesBax365 y8 was the shit
0 likesRodigo Duterte yep
1 likeI think I've played most of these.
0 likesway to go emp! lel killin it in the game boiii!
0 likes22:13 that aged poorly
1 likelets start our own video site with edgy content and memes
0 likesi like how the music stopped when tommy said "Michael McCrudden" lmao
0 likesHas leafy ever given his thoughts about your video? I'd love to see what he thinks, now that I've seen this whole new perspective on things
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even if he is, it would still be fascinating to see what he'd say even in the off chance he did actually watch it
12 likesКГБ off the internet doest mean your not using it
0 likesКГБ it means hes not using his twitter, snap, youtube account
0 likeswhat if he's just watching us, silently and ominously
4 likesDamn, can't tell if it's the sappy music behind Tommy C's commentary, but I'm super liking leafy as a person right now and want him back, or at least to hear him talk about things he's genuinely interested in.
0 likes21:42 well that didn't age too well didn't it
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Do you know where to find a re-upload?
0 likesIf YouTube is still tampering with Leafy, then maybe they should stop! #Freeleafy
0 likesJust kidding.
So wait I'm not allowed to watch YouTube in the background?
0 likesThat's a bad thing?
I'm almost done with the video and I really find leafy fascinating and wonder if he's seen your leafywashere video
0 likes1:30
0 likesJoke's on you.
This video is an hour long
I'm sick of the pearl-clutching for Leafy's children videos. ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL TO ATTACK CONTENT FROM A KID. We bully everyone on YT but kids are off limits!
0 likesAmazing video, so glad I found your channel. But I'm mildly also wondering about your meme of the month June?....
0 likesDude the music goes so well with the commentary
0 likesRIP EmperorLemon, he died from a dragon 😭😭😭
0 likesI like your videos but if this Leafy guy is a bully maybe being pushed off YouTube was for the best
1 likeThat mumkey jones comment aged like cheese
3 likesI wish I could know where Leafy really is. To see someone kind of disappear like that, I would like to know.
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Wild Fox we need a leafy Q&A
0 likesTell me why when you read Colossal's message it's in a similar way to your edited videos
1 likeColossal and emp are my favorite youtubers content wise
0 likesThat mumkey question and response hurt in the year of our lord 2021
1 likeyay! 2 weeks ago i watched the leafy video and watxhed more of your videos and really liked them. thanks!
0 likesHey man you should do a YouTube Grographic on Filthy Frank since he officially state he was done being Frank and he has been on YouTube for a pretty long time and was very popular it would be an interesting topic to dive into the timeline of his career and to see how that's effect the music he makes now as joji
1 likeYoutube annoys me in its approach to the algorithm. They constantly say they want another strange genre like gaming to appear again when they fail to see that gaming was the most unstable genre on the platform. It is now nearly impossible to become a lets player and they are seen as a joke. you don't want another genre that is like gaming.
0 likesWould love to have you on our show sometime
0 likesAt around 31:00 , what you’re talking about reminds me of that episode with iCarly w/ Fred the YT-er.
2 likes9:15 Oh God that was God skill level of gameplay
0 likesYou've gotta do an update on Leafy now!
0 likesThinking of how leafy would have dealt with the Paul’s, is kind of like thinking how would the governor deal with neagon (walking dead reference). A better example is like how would hitler deal with a current North Korea.
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Michael Lopez how? He made over 10 videos on them
0 likesLeafy did make videos on Jake Paul but before they blew up
0 likesMy new favorite channel to watch :)
0 likesNow I want to know the real Calvin, or at least see what his future endeavors will hold. By the way it sounds, he has a lot of money to burn on business that may never be successful while still supporting his lifestyle, and I respect him now a lot more than I did back in 2016. Great video! I’d like more of this podcast-like content if it means more emplemon. Of course, not at a great cost of other videos’ quality
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there are old streams on the internet of just him in skype calls with other youtubers like keem, billy the fridge, clown and so on and it's true that he was always much more interesting just talking and being himself rather than his rushed out repetitive videos
1 like“Is 20 bucks okay?” no because I put “effort” into the intro(and I really want some of those thousand dollar notes) now that I think back on that black hood guys rant, I see just how stupid it is now. I’m still really stupid.
1 likeAyy he’s got the clown AND tommy. Love your channel bro
0 likesi was wondering when mumkey and emp would do a crossover
0 likesI got weirdly invested in that balloon popping game, also vids are finally back in my recs as soon as I unsubbed
0 likesFor some unknown reason if I sub to someone youtube will just stop showing any vids they make in my rec
Thank you EmpLemon, very cool!
16 likes@EmpLemon. He did come back and got banned. We need an update.
0 likesThis video and the other video on leafy has completely changed my view on him
1 likeWorth the wait 👍🏻
0 likesLeafy watched this video!!!!!! Check Leary’s latest vid
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which one?
0 likes@Lonnie Nugget ty
1 likeI remember playing that flash game, good times.
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Justin Y. Yes indeed
1 likeJustin Y. Man huh didn’t know you commented on these
4 likesY O U
8 likesWatched a documentary about u
7 likes"27 views" top comment already nice job justin keep up the good work
5 likes37 likes in 2 minutes... completely normal!
2 likesB
0 likesJustin Y. I distracted by that game, too. Good or not it's still amazing, thought
0 likesWhen I was younger(by younger I mean 7 ) I played the game on new grounds and friv.com. Those were the times
1 likeJustin Y. Yeah
0 likesJustin Y. Sir, how do you do it man, how do you comment everywhere and get so well known?
1 likeJustin Y. K
0 likesJustin Y. E
0 likesMolly Sauce He comments on anything...Except in my videos that is :p
0 likesWhy are you always first
0 likesI hate this account please leave me alone
0 likesJustin Y. Same
0 likesOOH YOU COMENTED BEFORE YOU WATCHED THE WHOLE VIDEO!!!
3 likesdon't worry I did the same
I’m watching you.
0 likesEmp should do a YouTube geographic on this guy. (Although it may be too soon.)
2 likesHello m8
0 likesGo away
0 likesHow and why are you everywhere
0 likesikr
0 likesJustin Y. You know you made it as a YouTuber if you get Justin Y commented on your video.
0 likesBack when monster trucks were my monster jam
0 likesBut WHICH ONE was your favorite, Justin?
0 likeslol
0 likesJustin Y.
0 likesWere do live fam?
Yo for some reason, no matter what video I'm watching, I always find you in the comment section. How are you everywhere!
0 likesHoly shit I played that too, I cant believe so many people also played that, weird
0 likesJustin Y. Shit, I just realized you've left a comment on my video before.. Huh.
0 likesDude i see you like everywhere
0 likesJustin Y. Noice
0 likesJustin Y, you are leafy. I found you out boi.
0 likesjjuuuussssttttiiiinnnnn yyyyyyyyy why are you everywhere
0 likesYour icon looks like a flash game.
0 likesI didn't know you did things other than commenting
0 likesclicks tongue noice
0 likesJustin Y. you are everywhere i go
0 likesJustin Y. YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE COMES EVERY WERE
0 likesAh make out reef, good times, good times
0 likesEmplemond make a video about Justin y,hmm yes interesting,stickmaster, lemmons, and all these commenters who re appear on many videos we watch in top comment!
0 likesSo it's trials 0.1?
0 likesJustin Y. Hello meme. 😈
0 likesJustin Y.
0 likesMore like
Just y tho
Justin Y. You have more likes than anyone here yet ur not the top comment
0 likesparadise gamer what’s there to talk about
0 likesNEET
0 likesFINALLY! IT'S HERE!
0 likesLeafy got eaten by little foot from land before time for being a tree star
2 likesI fucking love this video Emp.
0 likesColossal is a bit of a hypocrite. Going from being on the Keemstar hate train himself calling him a "rat" at several occasions, to more saying the hare against keem was bad...
1 likeGod I miss YTP
0 likesYoutuber gets demonitized
1 likeLeafy: First time
So you should, you deserve it buddy.
0 likesIronically you've changed my opinion on leafy
1 likethe video for me was pretty good at explaining the rise and fall of leafy and how it happened.
4 likesI used to be a leafy fan, and just tbh, I wish He's still around. MoStLy BeCaUsE hE wAs E d G y !
Truly exhilarating gameplay
6 likesI wasn't a Leafy fan when he was big. I had friends that were, and I didn't hate him, but I didn't really have an opinion. I watched your first video on his fall from power and it intrigued me. I had only seen the content cop side of the story. So I looked in to Leafy's channel. And I absolutely fell in love with his content. It reawakened my 13 year old edgy self, and despite the obvious flaws in his videos (that Idubbbz was absolutely correct about) I still found them enjoyable. And now that he's gone, things are too soft. There's no cynical, edgy humour anymore. And even though I was never there during his big days, it's almost like I miss him. It's good on him for fleeing from the ever more toxic YouTube community, but now..
0 likesIt seems like he's the hero we need. Without him it's all soft. Commentary is too careful. If he had just accepted Idubbbz's criticisms he could still be here and better than ever. I guess, on YouTube, there's not really a happy ending for anyone though. So many people are leaving and suffering. Corporations are overriding over the people who used to run this website and their livelihoods are being trampled all over. Hell, Pewdiepie is about to lose his spot. It's all celebrities and fake douchebags now. There's really not many genuine people here anymore.
Calvin, wherever you are, I hope you are well. We miss you.
Do a YouTube Geographic on the toontown ranting/hacking community of 2012-2016, the toontown community is not relevant at all but if you research enough it is VERY interesting with lots of drama, it is worth researching. If you do research this, there are a few channels and videos that are worth watching for the research.
0 likeshonestly if Leafy returned as "Calvin" as Tommy C suggested theres a chance I would actually watch him again
0 likes9:03 it was 12 at night on a school night when I watched the video. I didnt give 2 shits that it was an hour long
1 likeIn a recent livestream billythefridge was asked about leafy and what happened to him billy said that leafy is alive and well , he and billy still talk but not as much as leafy and billy according to billy leafy and grade talk everyday and if I'm remebering correctly he said leafy has no plans to return to youtube in the stream billy even tried to call him through skype but he did not pick up as it was about 1 am in California so as you may have guessed he didn't pick up and that's pretty much the only info that was there in the livestream
1 likeThe God, Emperor Lemon has returned!
0 likesCan we have that mumkey geographic yet?
1 likeYou deserve all those views and subscribers Emperor Lemon
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why
0 likesD O W N W A R D S P I R A L yes!
0 likesT H A N K Y O U
Amazing content 👍👍💯💯
I went back to look at gradeaundera’s channel when I heard about it in the video and found I had been unsubbed from it 🤔
0 likesThat video was "watched" by me.
0 likesI just listened to it while doing something else
same with this
Do you think another reason for for leafy's downfall could have been that maybe just maybe that another reason why he fell is because his friends weren't there to help him because he made too many enemies just like you said in your video about leafy his rise and fall to feign and how his Empire Came Crashing Down on top of him
0 likesTommy c honestly just wants attention, I'm not on a hate bandwagon, but the only reason he was on the first baited was because he needed money, and they let him on, and his greed and need for attention made keemstar drive him away. To me, this seems like he fabricated his whole story on leafy, because why would leafy contact Tommy and not his friends DAYS after a video on leafy came out. A total cry for attention in my book.
2 likesHey Emp, I recently found out something about FilthyFrank that is quite a revelation. In thinking of making a video with just the facts, but honestly Im a bit scared of DDOSing and doxing... could you try getting ahold of me so I can tell you a bit more about this and hopefully we can both get some new insight through what Ive found with the statistics...
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You gotta share that info man
0 likesWhat would cause DDOSing and doxing? A more important question would be why do you have any info on Frank like that?
0 likesAcanofSoup the main answer to that question is that Im a bit worried that the fanbase of Joji would DDOS and Dox because of the fact that Ive found out that the so called health issues have nothing to do with fikthyfrank but because of a different well known problem he has
1 likeOk so you're afraid of filthy frank fans of all people to try and ddos and/or dox Frank based off of their be another reason as to why he quit frank which reakky is just technically a well known problem? You're giving people too much credit here.
1 likeAcanofSoup lol good point actually
3 likesRaevak Kibbe so what is it?
0 likesRaevak Kibbe do you have a twitter if so contact him their immediately their is a huge chance he will answer it
0 likes''The prettiest people do the ugliest things, on the road to riches and diamond rings''
1 likeSo I wanted to see if the suppression system was still active on leafy's channel. So I started watching his old vids, probably five, (and you can test this) and his videos started popping up in my recommended again. yeah theyre all a year old but it seems recommendation is allowing him again. although his direct search still shows obvious signs of tampering.
0 likesExcellent fucking video, holy hell.
1 likeyou could say that leafy "isnt here"
0 likesWoah, this is amazing
1 likeAre you going to make an update now that Leafy is making short videos again?
2 likes0:30 Shit you remembered our Lord and Saviour.
1 likeI miss Calvin
9 likesI want the background used in the video to use for my Wallpaper engine.
1 likeOpen comment to all YouTube users/commenters, regarding me having to use my frizzled brain to figure out who is responding to who in the comments - Stop changing your damn channel names! Create a new channel! You know who you are!
0 likesyou know i like long videos if theyre good. i actually prefer them. anf yours are good so eh
0 likesI feel kinda bad for him
0 likesMan... I miss leafy
0 likesPlease make another youtube demographic
0 likesDuring "ad time" I actually got an ad
0 likesIdk if it was on purpose or accidental but it was funny
Leafy is Here again. Go look it up he's back.
2 likes14:15 Since when cant Juggernauts break ice blooms?
0 likesGameplay with unrelated commentary?....... GIVE THIS MAN A MEDEL!!! LOL
0 likes53:35 omg that would be hillarious, pls leafy, just do it xD
0 likesI open the video to see flash game gameplay, 4 dumb pictures of leafy, and downward spiral-themed max headroom in the background. Instant like!
1 likeSupreme choice of music, my man 👌
1 likeGood show ol' Emp
1 like"Lets Welcome all 50K new subscribers"
0 likesNo "Please Unsubscribe!!!"?
Lemon, my man, what happened
We need to make leafy notice this
0 likesTommy c at the end was amazing
0 likesI love this channel so much
0 likesIf leafy ever does come back I think it will be with an apology to people (ie keemstar h3h3 even idubbbz) but I don't think he will do everyday videos. love the guy
0 likes33:35 I like to think that leafy is stranded in the mojave desert. 😂
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I just got done watching the video, damn.
0 likesWhere there's a meme, there's a way.
4 likesYou're very very underrated
2 likes[No glasses] Leafy Video QnA.
0 likes[With glasses] EmpLemon's Summer Bummer Part 2
Oh and suprisingly there's ads on an EmpLemon vid
Damn, I love Emplemon
0 likesWhat if after this, leafy will talk to emperorlemon himself?
1 likeSo I guess a Mumkey YouTube Geography is now in order
0 likesI bet leafy had a couple mill in the bank from YouTube and now he’s sitting up in his mansion doin mg whatever he wants
0 likesI hope he comes back #leafywillbehere
0 likesThis is amazing
0 likesLove the classical music. Please if you do another one of these "types" of videos, please play Handel. He is an excellent composer.
3 likesEmp lemon if you somehow find Leafy tell him this
0 likesWhat is better to be born good or to overcome the hate and your actions and become
good
It did bring closure. Thanks!
0 likescommentary + memes/ytps in the background = upward spiral
1 likedo a meme theory about content cop and how it's used memes to target channels
0 likeshow did I watch 90% of your content in 2 weeks
0 likesWhat goes on stays in YouTube, hahaha.
0 likesI just noticed when you said 'meme' that you sound exactly like Behind the Meme.
0 likesThis is sad.... I want him back
0 likesIs emplemon behind the meme? YouTube Conspiracy.
0 likesYou should make a Maxemofoe or Filthy Frank YouTube geographic @EmperorLemon
0 likesMy glass of downward spiral was poured before this video began.
0 likesBruh, I remember playing those shitty monster truck flash games in elementary school.
0 likesYoutube should have a constitution similar to the united states' where the govt cant really meddle with random channels when they're in a tight spot. Instead, they should have checks and balances in them kind of like govt. this way, they dont just abuse and demonitize channels at random...not exactly sure how it works, but it would be a cool idea. Right now im learning in school about how the most relevant form of US govt was formed and how it works. This is the main reason behind my suggestion. P.S. take my coment with a grain of salt about the size of a B+ average kid in middle school.
0 likesi got recommended your video outta no where lol
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Ben Masta that's nice
1 likeDemonetizon must be pleased.
0 likesBeen here since The UNcredibles first came out. Damn, you've grown :)
0 likesGood , Continue this series
0 likesWell that was actually sad
0 likesLeafy said himself that he doesn't plan on coming back and hardly watches YouTube. He's now doing stock market trading with his money
0 likesEdit: he did an interview with keemstar
I loved that episode
0 likesStill not sure you have found anything new and think the alg had less to do than the backlash to his style of bullying.
0 likesAn hour long video with one single, lone, Ad.
29 likesSo uh about that Mumkey Documentary…
4 likesNows time to make a Mumkey YT Geographic
1 likelmao, i already binged all your vids
0 likesI actually love long videos
0 likesI have a feeling he is gonna make return before 2019
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I doubt it why would he he's a millionaire
1 likeI have my dislike ready
0 likesAvery Bunn to stay a millionaire?
6 likesI hope not
0 likesAvery Bunn he can’t retire at his age without living off ramen noodles
0 likesas much as i would like to see that (even though he makes garbage) i highly doubt it would happen
0 likesIt's confirmed that he's never coming back
0 likesErica how?
0 likesanthony 4 life I love leafy and all but I don't think he's making a come back I wish he would tho
0 likesAmber Jones he was fun to watch, but I got tired of him and the drama after a while. But I did genuinely enjoy him and felt really bad for him for what he endured. Him coming back would be like an old show getting renewed after 10 years
2 likesHoly shi t this is great!
1 likeI subscribed to you last year lmao didnt kno you would blow up.I subscribed at 44k when you uploaded the mario odyssey
0 likesTo get off topic for a sec: Have you ever seen the YTPer Geibuchan? I'm not sure how popular he is and/or was, but damn is his shit good. Even when held to the TYP's you see nowadays.
0 likesRecently, he did come back from the dead (Kinda), so maybe you could make a video documenting his works? I dunno. I figured it'd be kinda cool.
Maybe a new idea for a series, who knows?
I have a feeling that these videos will cause the topic of leafy to become popular, then he'll make an official comment about it or he'll come back as a new person
0 likesYoutubers are like waves. Some grow big and crash down creating other smaller waves and some waves never grow big.
0 likesLove the Beethoven music near the 40 minute mark.
0 likesCan't wait when in like 10 years some guy has the same idea that you did with leafy, and make a video about yer chennal.
0 likesRip I never had a problem with Leafy. (Colossal quote)
0 likesLeafy was simply an opportunist, and with opportunists, they take risks, they play the odds, they gamble against the system. Leafy played the system too well and his channel suffered indefinitely from it.
0 likesholy shit i actually think youtube took your vids out of my sub box i honestly dont remember half of them from the last 6 months
0 likeslmao who the hell is this guy saying "he is extremely charming" LOL
0 likesI "liked" this video... don't take it the wrong way.
0 likesI think you have a problem with length when it takes 20 minutes to explain why the video is so long. There's really no need for that much subtext.
0 likesI'm all for positivity towards content creators but there was no need for this to be as long as it is, the same thing was said over and over again without adding much at all.
Quality over quantity mate.
I love smoking a blunt while watching this :)
0 likesIf I play this muted in the background, do you still get revenue from it?
0 likesI actually like Leafy, but I unsubbed from both him and Grade because they backstabbed Keem, another person who I honestly don't think is that bad, I unsubbed because I strongly disagreed with what they were doing and would have re-subbed if they acknowledged that they were cunts there and made an apology.
1 likeThese videos have made me look at Leafy in a different light though.
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Razor Candies I don't remember but he did call at least 5 people pedo's
0 likesI played these flash games with a Windows 95 computer when i was young... Good times (extremely laggy)
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Diego Jimenez I played them on a old Macintosh desktop
0 likesCall me insane, but i like longer videos compared to shorter ones.
0 likesDo an incredible 2 parody !!!!!!!!
1 likeThis is the only reliable news channel now
0 likes@EmpLemon What applications do you use to edit your videoes?
0 likesYou probably already know this but grade's coming back. Maybe he can pull himself out of the spiral.
0 likesSo. Should we be expecting the Mumkey Jones video now?
0 likesI think it's super weird that this video came up in my recommended but not my sub box.
0 likesi normally watch 30+ min videos so 50 is not so different :)
0 likesI'm having discharge so sadly I can't watch this in 1 Session like the earlier hitpiece.
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NVM
0 likesAn hour long! I’m not watching that! ;)
0 likesWhere can I see what tags channels are tagged with? (Regarding the manual suppresion / categorization)
0 likesThe longer the better
2 likesYou referenced Star_ a few times in the video. Were you thinking of doing a Star_ geographic?
0 likesSick I love classic Bloons thanks for the gameplay vid
1 likeNext level will be an idle game. It just plays itself while you rant.
0 likesWhy the fuck did I just watch a 1 hour video of that.
0 likesI expected myself to leave 20 minutes in
How on earth did you predict the ad time?
0 likesif you search up LeafyIsHere nowadays, he is the first result! They stopped censoring him!
0 likesI’m one of those new subs. Like the vids keep it up.
0 likesDamn, that’s a lot of shit about someone I liked for a long while and never disliked, just got bored of. I miss Leafy now.
0 likesI would want to know what you really think about sml and demonetization
0 likesI swear this video used to be unlisted
0 likesGrade is probably the final piece to the puzzle
0 likesOne quick question is this a meme channel or a YouTube poop channel or both ?
0 likes22:21-22:35 Oh how the times have changed...
1 likeI probably gave you like 50k of those views lol I kept having other things pop up while trying to watch "Leafy Was Here" it seemed like every time I sat down to watch it something came up
0 likesLooks like it might be time to do that mumkey video : \
0 likesI found you from the Youtube is on a downward spiral video, but I subbed after the leafy video
0 likesThanks,i used to like Calvin a lot whish he would stream/make videos about league or something that he likes.
0 likesOoof, Is it time to cover Mumkey Jones now YouTube killed him off themselves?
0 likeswaiting on uncredibles 2 rn
1 likeGood follow up vid but what about the content cop tech rax, not a lot of info on him when covering the effect of content cop.
1 likeI wonder if Leafy watched your videos and commented but we will never know lol
0 likesAnother title for you:
0 likesThe saint of spirals
Tbh, I relate to Leafy's situation. I mean, I still make videos, but how Colossal and Tommy talked about him are the same ways people talk about me. But we both tried to suppress ourselves to appease the infant form of Montezon. However, the difference between me and Leafy is that eventually I saw what I was doing wrong, and changed my content, but Leafy continued his cancerous commentary cyber-bullying content. In the end, I've hit the 100 sub mark (small channel milestone), but Leafy still is getting negative on Social Blade, even though he doesn't even do anything anymore.
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English viking kaden your very cool 26 subs in 2 years I admire you for becoming so big way bigger than Leafy
0 likes@Luke I know right it's insane
0 likesWill you do a YouTube Geographic over Tobuscus?
0 likesHey emplemon just wondering when are u going to do a yt geographic on STAR_ the man who went from an extremely popular tf2 youtuber to a dead overwatch channel I remember you referenced it in the leafy vid
6 likesim pretty sure gradeaundera said that he got really depressed and stopped making videos, so im guessing that people just unsubbed coz he was probably never going to upload again.
0 likesHeyooooo Internet Historian cameo! Also fantastic content.
0 likes“Link to mumkey Jones channel” well then.
0 likesI see EmpLemon is a professional CoolMath gamer
0 likesdid not age well lol 21:42
2 likesThe next youtube geographic video should be on Whitney Wisconsin, who had some drama with leafy on YouTube a few years ago.
0 likesShould of talked to Billy The Fridge he still talks to Leafy to this day and can provide a lot of info on Leafy.
0 likesI just watched some vids on the topic and you just uploaded?? Awesome!
0 likesWAIT THIS IS DARK AF YOU DID MAKE A MUMKEY DOCUMENTARY
0 likesthose old flash games though, classic
0 likesLove Tommy C.
0 likesI’m sure you are working on that mumkey video now...or is there enough coverage that it’s no longer an interest?
0 likes8:17 I mentioned before at your Leafy Was Here video, but The Gamer From Mars mentioned he was suppressed by the algorithm before you made that video.
0 likesHonestly Leafy's content was bad, but I associate his golden era on youtube with a good time in my life (2016).. Back when Youtube was good...
0 likesFilthy Frank would be an interesting to see
2 likesThis guy said gamer like 30 times
1 likeI miss getting notifications for high quality YouTube Poops.
65 likesBut this is still pretty good too, so I won’t unsubscribe.
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Then....you know what to do
7 likesno wonder he stopped
4 likespeople are asking for high quality YTPs when he just wanted to have fun with it
I miss my videos getting to my fans notifications box
0 likesU N S U B S C R I B E
0 likesI miss his downward spiral & never ogre dilemma
0 likesMany of my fav YTP-ers don't really poop anymore, but there's some good stuff left
1 likeRazor440
0 likesYou obviously can't read
Leafy is like the Hitler of youtube. Someone who did terrible things, but had a very unique/interesting/questionable success. Enough success to make it into the book of history.
2 likesBut behindthememe is my favorite YouTuber.
0 likesYou should do a Downward spiral on SamHyde and MDE
0 likesdo a video on fousey he clearly on a downward spiral...
2 likesDang dude that bloons gameplay brought back some memories
0 likesThank you. Interesting shit.
1 likeEmplemon,you legend
0 likesShould have feature tommy NC
2 likesHey BB keep on keeping on
0 likesi personally hope he comes back because he was a cool dude and he just spoke his opinion on things and people and could make me laugh, i dont think he was greedy like colossal is crazy said or that he didn't care about his fans, i mean but maybe i don't believe that because i actually liked him and i'm being a bit biased but yeah i hope he comes back as calvin and starts to find what he's actually passionate about and make videos on that because i'm pretty sure that would probably get him more views, just being himself and sure the youtube algarilium isnt the same but it isnt just fucking up for just him many other youtubers have to deal with it to but people bounce back, and he can to i just wish he'd find that reason on why he started youtube to begin with and run the rest of his youtube carreer on that like i plan on doing and not let yotube burst his tiny white bubble. but yeah ik my comment is prob not gonna be seen by tommy c but if you have contact with him, tell him to tell leafy to come tf back because we miss him and his funny entertaining videos. like seriously he could come back as like ''calvin the cucksucker'' and i'd still watch him or just plain ''calvin'' idc i just want more videos from him. cause like i said before he's a cool ass dude and i think he should right that book he was planning to write about kids. i just want him to do what makes him happy. and if by chance yotube doesnt get him off anymore he can at the very least make one last video exsplaining everything and why he left and will stay gone (if he decides to) srry for the long comment
0 likes"Discount Lasagna"
0 likes$12000
18:51 GUES WHOES GONNA CHOKE ON PUFFERFISH NOW?
0 likes51 Minutes? That Long Enough For Background Noise
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this vid is good
1 likeALL HAIL MONTIZON!!!!
1 likeFucking love this guy.
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Dapper Bleach he's a stud!!
0 likeswow real gaming classics right here
0 likesMuito foda o vídeo parabéns
4 likesComing Up Next: GradeAUnderGrave Also R.I.P GradeAUnderA 2014 - 2018 Only 5 or 4 years.. Your words of greatness "It's cool mate". This comment is in honor of Grade because of how awesome his videos were. Hopefully, He will be back in 2020.
0 likesim not sure if he may come back at least not under the same name ive heard he was selling his official snapchat. which is quite curious for sure.
0 likesThank the lord your god Leafy ,he made you famous now keep the torch and go your path quietly because jewtubez is watching
0 likes22:14... this is sad.
2 likesThis video felt like a funeral for Leafy
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RIP
0 likesI forgot that TommyC existed
0 likesI love your long videos i love the infermation because i like too know it all and i just love long videos
0 likesGood video!
0 likesI played that monstertruck game is a kid. Amazing!
0 likesPraise the God Emperor Lemon and his godly OC
12 likesHave you ever heard the tragedy of leafyishere?
1 likei know these are ton of work but i am now very interested about gradeaundera hope you can do that soon
0 likesMumkey is on the downward spiral
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There was no spiral, it was a giant drop
0 likesThe background is when a channel got hacked
1 likeI am sure it has nothing to do with Mumkey! (The Channel growth that is)
0 likesJust drop leafy already.. Damn
0 likesYou have the exact same taste in music as me
1 likeThe only other youtuber who shares the same theory about leafy, that I've seen at least, is TheGamerFromMars. A guy who makes the most bland, unoriginal, boring content managed to notice this before a lot of us. What the hell!
0 likesIs memulous a leafy clone because after watching a few videos he seems like it.
4 likesThe same people that backstabbed keemstar is the same people who have left youtube.
1 likefuck yeah this vid is what i needed for my birthday
0 likes14:14 pure rage
0 likesMe YouTube viewer. Me like good long content. Emp good creator.
0 likesI love ur long vids wtf are these guys saying xD
0 likesGood vid but I can't believe this is an hour not complaining
0 likesTfw an emplemon video isn't demonotized
0 likesi would watch him if he staterd doing twitch or someting
0 likesleafy didn't die he was murdered
5 likesHow is your audio quality better than Tommy C’s XD
0 likesI miss leafy.
0 likesI miss leafy.
0 likesnice video my dude
0 likesLeafys channel died because of that ritual
8 likesAll of the weed channels like custom grow 420 got terminated
0 likesCan someone please tell EmpLemon about VidLii , it’s like old YouTube and I think if we spread it enough we can all migrate their and leave this horrible platform.
0 likes6:35 what are the tower god (or whatever was said) leaks?
0 likesGreat video
0 likesOMG MY FAVOURITE VIDEO OF ALL GOT A SEQUEL
1 likeNice tastes in classical music.
0 likesIf you haven’t already, I’d like to see one on GradeAUnderA
0 likes5:00, yeah I noticed that, you never showed up, so I checked your channel after some time, only to find out that you posted over 10 videos. Of wich none where in my subsription box or recommended.
0 likesReally interesting comment by colossal. Is that why he stopped making videos as well?
3 likesALL YOU EVER DO IS COMPL-
1 likeWait a sec... this isn't complaining
Unsubscribed
U should've listed this under gaming
0 likesMumkey jones did a video about reactor, who kind of ruined grade a under a
0 likesColossal text was fire
0 likesGUESS WHO JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE VIDEO...
65 likesTHIS REMAINING RELIC BOI FROM THE LEAFY HISS EMPIRE
Anybody still alive?
Anyway Emplemon, i really enjoyed this video, it was very insightful, and being able to hear that leafy is fine and well made me quite happy.
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Tube Industries Broadcasting Company I served for the 48th HISSS militia back in Jan 2016!!!!
11 likesGlad to see you guys are still around :)
4 likesYeah a lot of people still don't dislike him he still has 4.3mil subs , if he returns we the remnants of the old reptilian army shall rise above our past edgery and toxicity and welcome him to form the new reptilian civilization !
7 likesPrincess Applestrach i would gladly serve lord leafy again if he were to comeback.
6 likesReptilian Army standing by
1 likehissss! I'm quite upset from the statement "he didn't like his own fans or interacting with them" though. I really hope that's not true
0 likesI miss him so much 😭
1 like54th HISSS Infantry Regiment. I’ve seen some real combat in my days.
0 likesI only started watching Leafy around Summer 2016 but I kept watching his videos until 2017. My 13 year old self liked Leafy so much that I watched almost every single video on Leafy's channel.( 58th HISS Division of the reptilian army)
0 likesHey it’s monetized, amazing
0 likesDid you get the silver play button yet
0 likesEmp lemon. Another channel was struck with a similar case recently. The chanell doomsday.exe though small now used to be sizable but after he brought light to some stuff his chanell has been on the decline, and has since released a statemen that he is quiting.
0 likesIf you find it necessary and worth your time, id love if you could do a "youtube" geographic on homestuck. Its a webcomic thats got a lot, and thats all I can really say without going into detail and sounding like a schizo. do me a favor, at least check it out.
0 likesall hail lemon, duke of dank town
4 likesUgh, the video is 1 hour long, I won't watch this.
0 likesEdit: It's now ome hour later. Good vid
Youtube kept recommending the Leafy was here. It is so strange, is the machine trying to communicate with me
0 likesI think EmpLemon is the real HowToBasic.
1 likeOf course..
0 likesHindsight is 20/20
when's the star_ youtube geographic?
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Rick Tolker he pulled a game grumps and started making easy boring content.
3 likes;) awesome video mate
0 likesHmm, I'm thinking of the next Geographic being on RiceGum, but it's more of him and his wrong-doings w/ his past, cause they're kind of the same. ( Rice n' Leafy. )
0 likesAt 21:38 an actual ad came on Emplemon!
0 likesIt took me really long to find this video. Never appeared on my recommended.
0 likesomg 20:35 i forgot about that gem of a game
0 likesMumkey jones got deleted. I say his youtube geographic is due.
1 likeI’ve noticed something about what you are talking about with people being silenced by YouTube. When I made a new account for YouTube cause I got a new computer I wasn’t getting recommended for dunkey even tho I was watching him. I think cause dunkey made a line of videos making fun of new YouTube YouTube made it to where you can’t see his videos any more. Maybe it’s a coincidence but it’s still strange.
0 likesI got a ad on a emperor lemon video.... I think god did a thing
0 likesGuys leafy made another channel, it's called "daily dose of Internet"
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based weeab it certainly sounds like his voice
0 likesLmao
0 likesThe leafy and idubbz drama is what happens when an army of sheep led by a lion attacks an army of snakes led by a leaf
0 likesI like the longer videos
1 likeNo, what hAppened to cybershell
0 likesI’m worried about him.
You should do a video on Filthy Frank too
0 likesPress S to Spit at the grave
0 likesLEAFY BRINGS SUBS AND VIEWS LOL. Look at everybody who stabbed him in the back, dissed him, or made videos on him. H3H3, Idubbz, pyrocinical, Elvis the alien, HeyWatchYourMouth, wildSpartans, etc etc... Leafy's fans actually sub to people he mentions, good or bad. Anyway, Tommy C, gamer from mars, and Collossal is Crazy been saying this.
1 likeIt's almost 1 am and I really want to sleep but I also want to watch this FUUUUUUUCK
0 likesAlso you should do a q and a live
0 likesThe background is actually a video of 1987 WTTW TV station's signal hijack, with a man wearing a Max headroom mask.
0 likesPunished Leafy: A youtuber denied of his platform
0 likesMake a video where you search love as the keyword in the comments.
0 likesMan, isn’t this ironic. Poor Mumkey. Leafy’s “assasination” by YouTube pales in comparison to how YouTube straight-up murdered Mumkey in broad daylight.
0 likesHow does a thinking human being refuse to watch a video just because its 50 minutes long? I only see that in a cinema when parents come with their 5 years old kids and they start being bored after 1 hour. How pathetic today's society is...
0 likes18:23
2 likesJust watch...
Am I the only one who would like to see youtube geographic on Filthy Frank?
0 likesBest Bit At 7:20
0 likesEmplemon is god
4 likeshey @emplemon my idea that occurred to for ytgeo is do an episode on daddyofive as a request
0 likesMan good ending
0 likesCan we get time stamps
0 likesA dank 50 minutes to be sure.
0 likeshow much time you think youtube still have? it's a downhill or a site that's here to stay?
0 likesScripted or unscripted, any EmpLemon is good EmpLemon.
0 likesYou should make a podcast DEADASS
0 likesHe dove into this shit
0 likesemplemon uploaded again , and its about leafy 👀
25 likesIf like to watch hour long content then split in parts
0 likesThis video is great
0 likesFuck, now I WANT leafy to come back
0 likesYou gotta do a YouTube geography on fouseytube
0 likesis it true that leafy offed himself?
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Yup the funeral will be at billy the fridges house
124 likesAncient Power wait, is that a joke, right?
4 likesLeafy is okay and well. Colossal is Crazy said it himself.
97 likespoorsuit yyyyyyyup
0 likesHe was still getting a fair amount of views each video.
2 likesLeafy fucking dies
11 likesNo. He died of ligma
37 likestrumps wall you sure it wasn't bofa?
7 likesdragonite56 who’s bofa?
2 likesLeafyIsHereAgain for a split second I thought you where leafy lol
10 likesWait
1 likeyes
0 likesIn a livestream billy the fridge said that leafy waa alive and well and so was grade a
3 likeswatch the fucking video
1 likeApparently he's still alive and is living in California atm
0 likesDon't worry just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it never will! Keep hoping!
1 likeRazor Candies You overestimate youtube revenue
0 likesLeafy has returned.
2 likesIve been subbed for like i think a bit over a year and a half now and i kinda forgot about you because you just never pooped up onto my feed until real recently
0 likesYou should do one on filthy frank
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Tracy Bowlin no. everyone knows what happened to filthy frank and there's no real entertainment there since Joji made a statement about why he left so there's no fun looking at that. Leafy just vanished one day and no one knew why. That's why that video worked and a filthyfrank video wouldn't.
1 likeJoji left to pursue his own dream of being an artist, a singer. But leafy? We know nothing... This is why a filthyfrank vid won't work
1 likeHow did it get that many views? T H E A L G O R I T H M
1 likeTHERE ARE LEAFY CLONES????
0 likesLeafy vids come to my recc frequently now
2 likesAnother hour of EmpLemon?
0 likesNever realized this but you sound like an upbeat chills.
0 likesOh my god I made a video about Leafy's socialblade. I'm famous!! Wow i'm such a smart and successful person.
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I'm talking from the video creators perspective.. If you watched the video you would know.
1 likeThat was cool
0 likesHow did your meeting go Emp
0 likesCalvin is the Kokichi of Danagnronpa V3
0 likesToo good to be dead
You got 1Mil views cause youtube reccomended the video for some reason.
3 likesThis is astounding ... Both videos
0 likesI would like to play Monopoly with Leafy.
1 likeYou have to do a video on Ray William Johnson
0 likesIf you watch in 144p you can see the script in the Background
0 likesbout to turn isis into waswas
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Fucking PLZ LMAO
4 likesSpookmaster005 Normies bout to turn your meme from a 'is funny' to a 'was funny'
15 likesSpookmaster005
3 likesOwh shit new meme format.
Great, i need to find a job
your tags Nah, the "isis to waswas" meme is pretty old.
4 likesSpookmaster005
0 likesThey became a waswas
Spookmaster005 was was?
0 likesSave the Harambe, guys
0 likesIf he had waited 3 Months and 6 Days Leafy being found by Keemstar would have been uploaded, also Mumkey channel has been Taken Down, wonder when his Geographic will be put up?
0 likescan you do a video on those edgy spongebob videos
0 likesI love you dude. No homo
0 likesI just realized it's that max headroom video playing in the background
0 likesThank you Emperor!
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Very cool!
4 likesyour tags •U•
0 likesVery cool.
1 likeWho else went back and watched some leafy videos after the video?
5 likesdamn that game in the background is really interesting
0 likesI found i shiny ghastly while listening to this video
1 likeIs the original LeafyWasHere video down? I was just rewatching it last night, but I wake up today and it's completely unavailable.
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Yeah me too like WTF
0 likesI didn’t even listen to you, the game footage was too addicting
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Happens to the best of us
0 likesD9nt feel bad they nailed me when I was 70k for 2nd time on invisible still today
0 likesWhy didn't you tell the new subscribers to U N S U B S C R I B E ?
0 likesEww 1:00:30 hours I ain't watchin' 1:00:30 latér: good vid.
5 likes(I really wanna see one day a video about star_
18 likesNow that you have alot of new subs can you make frying dory?
0 likesYou should make a video on GradeAUnderA because he just disappeared.
0 likesWhy do I remember playing this game on my old computer @ 1:38
0 likesIf making fun of kids is so bad, how is AFV still a thing
0 likeswhat a crew
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Connor Howe that's a very good reference.
0 likesThe best anime episode
0 likesD I A G O N A L S P I R A L
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C O U N T E R C L O C K W I S E
0 likesS P I R A L
I want you to say number 15 you sound just like chills
0 likesYou should be thanking the youtube trending tab, that is the only reason i know you exist.
0 likesm a y o r o f m e m e t o w n
4 likesi will only expect montertruck gameplay from here on out. no more editing
0 likesThis video shot asf make them longer;)
0 likesThis video didn't even show up in my sub box smh.
0 likesYour videos are better when they are scripted
0 likesYo shoutouts to the bloons gameplay
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Kevin Hanson hell yeag
1 likeWhat about Max Dirt Bike? Eh, We’re all teenagers and know these flash games. Max Dirt Bike is fun tho
13 likesHell yeah man!!
1 likeSome Weirdo on the Internet i come from the Pico on newgrounds days.
3 likesKevin Hanson the sixth one came out recently.
2 likesWell the 6th Bloons TOWER DEFENSE, I don't think the original Bloons went past 2 but idk
2 likesYoshicraft224 There’s Bloons 1 and 2. Bloons TD 1-6. Bloons TD Battles. Bloons Monkey City. Bloons Supermonkey 1 and 2.
2 likesYeah ik
0 likesWill you do a YouTube geographic on fouseytube or sam pepper
0 likesSo in ad time all I got was hentai?
1 likeI'm pretty sure that Billy the Fridge ATE Leafy, pretty sure.
0 likesclap clap
1 likeLeafy review
He Just Uploaded
2 likesi dont mind wathing a good 30 to 60 mins vid
0 likesleafy come home :c
1 likeLeafy is innocent baby :>
0 likesGlass of downward spiral
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Pepe teh Gangster S I P
0 likes>not bringing up the Reactor drama in the GradeA comment
0 likesD O W N W A R D S P I R A L
0 likesEveryone knows LeafyIsHere became Shoe0nHead.
0 likeshm, looks like tons of youtubers are here, too bad I haven't made a popular youtube channel, I mean why would I ever need that...it sounds like a living hell to manage.
0 likesit's never ogre
11 likes21:38 Ad Time...
0 likesShows an ad.
Btw inspiring video
0 likesGreat video but why is the Max Headroom Incident in the background?
0 likesYou need to talk about Justin Y.
1 likeGreat vid
0 likeso golly, 1 hour of content
0 likesWhat happened to memes of the month?
0 likesMonster truck flash games were THE shit back then
0 likesWho are these leafy clones? I’m not up to date on this.
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Memeulous I think
0 likesAny small commentary channel
0 likesCould you do a Geographic to the mysterious me enter
0 likes22:03
2 likesThat's changed...
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Yikes
0 likesShit went down
0 likesDude what the fuck I remember playing that game
0 likesYoutube CEO just uploaded a video on her channel! https://youtu.be/J3-ZtSpptGs
0 likesdownward spiral
26 likesLeafy was gonna start the revolution
0 likesamusingly literal
0 likesMultiple people have done.this just STOP
0 likesif you like youtube empire that crumble so much emperor god lemon, how about Ray William Johnson?
0 likesoh wow, bloons.
0 likesi completely forgot about that game.
I love that gameplay tbh
0 likesit's almost weird
0 likestelling people to unsub didn't even get people to unsub
Tommy C was gonna try to cash in the fucking leafy hate train originally SMFH.
0 likesi started subscribing thanks to hurricae Mathew
0 likesEmpLemon is obviously Leafy. Come on!
0 likesThat mumkey video though
0 likesAnyone else notice that the downward spiral is just green black hole from TF2
0 likesIs YourDailyDoseofInternet Leafy?
3 likesLike the beginning of this site said, interesting
0 likesGood video
0 likesmaybe if he stuck to minecraft he would still be around
0 likesHow about that new shitty like bar everybody
6 likesRIP Leafy
0 likesBilly the fridge is a gud friend of leafy and he won’t talk about him on stream without getting paid, can u have him on an interview or some shit cuz he might know something.
0 likes50k new subscribers? Too main stream for me. Unsubscribed
0 likesIs that music from Love Exposure I hear?
0 likesWhere's The Outcredibles 3
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You mean uncredibles 3?
0 likesNope, He already did the Uncredibles, The Noncredibles, Now we need the Outcredibles
2 likesYeah, why is the video 51 minutes? Why not 7 hours, like that one analysis of Pokemon OmegaRuby that almost certainly cropped up in your recommendations box that I've watched three times?
0 likesyou should do a video about jinx
0 likesAdvanced reaction video to your own video
0 likesI came here for the gameplay
0 likesLol working on Spanish subtitles for this video no one cares butt I do
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That's actually pretty neat tbh cuz doing that can take hours
0 likeswow how many shitty ass flash games did you need to play for the video lol
0 likesEdit: those games actually look dope
This is completely unrelated, but have you ever thought about making a video on Justin Y or anyone like him? Stickmaster600 for example?
0 likes...so how about that Mumkey Jones documentary?
1 likeDude?
0 likesYOU are Leafy!!!
OUR SAVIOR HAS RETURNED!
13 likesYo I no joke found 2 leafy vids in my recommended lol😂😂
0 likesWho else just came for the flash games?
0 likesGrade A still makes videos
0 likesI don’t have anything intuitive to say, so I’ll just comment for viewer engagement
1 likeUpon this day a bomb was dropped
7 likesAmazing
2 likesI played that monster truck game as a kid
1 likeAnd yeah i would almost rather watch tv than youtube. Its awful now. What a garbage site
1 likeEmp make a vid about wheres Ster_ i miss him and i know you do ;d
0 likesLol you sound like Behind the Meme with this music in the background smh
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Except not fucking cringy.
47 likesSpeaking of Behind the Meme, a Youtube Geographic about Behind the Meme.
13 likesAlex Yorim Yes, so much yes. Although I'm not sure if BTM is on a downward spiral yet
1 likeAlex Yorim WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?
1 likeWonder if leafy is watching this.
1 likeLeafy should come back a LOT less toxic, in a new channel.
0 likesHi Everyone, E M P E R O N Y
0 likesL E M O N T A N O here, the BIGGEST MEME KNOWLEDGE IN THE GAME.
Time to Unsubscribe
3 likesHis last video was 8 months ago.
0 likesAND HERE COMES MONTIZON
0 likesUp to 10:00 is dead air.
0 likesOne hour? I cant watch all that.
0 likesWhy not expand outside of JewTube?
15 likesI would love to know about the first ever trolls on the internet.
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its too early for that, explore your own home before going outside.
14 likes43 AWWWW I like Tommy <3
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49 awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
0 likeslook up a channel called rarekirby, leafys doing voice acting for one of his animations.
0 likesM O N T I Z O N
0 likesFeels nice here
0 likesLeafy = a threat
3 likesLogan paul = totally fine
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RiceGum is worse. At least Logan doesn’t bully kids
0 likesThe Drowzee Fella he didn't bully all kids just Misha the Pokémon go boi
1 likeWhat’s the tower dog thing u were talking about?
0 likesCan I come to your mansion and learn how to make millions and billions on YouTube?
0 likes"Go check out Mumkey's channel" His Channel gets TERMINATED
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Forgot I commented 2 years ago lol, have a good day if you reading this
0 likes#resubtoleafy #leafyisback
0 likesYo, can you do a video on Mr. Beast?
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Icebrand Music just a normie doing outrageous things
2 likesEh, I don't think he's a total normie. He seems to be aware of a decent amount of dank memes. That may be because he seems to watch a lot of pewdiepie who also brings up dank memes in his vids. What fascinates me about Mr. Beast is that his channel seems very centered on money and giving money away and doing things that require a lot of money. He really flaunts his wealth but in an entertaining way. He doesn't seem that conceited, but it's hard to tell.
2 likesI agree with everything that's been said, especially the genius business model aspect. He often even gets regular people off the street or on twitch streams to say 'subscribe to mr. Beast' or 'mr. Beast is the best' after giving them money which really promotes his brand and grows his subscriber base.
0 likesBloons is the shit my dude
0 likesQuality over quantity
0 likesbut then if it's because of youtube, why isn't he still active on Twitter?
0 likesSurprisingly solemn.
0 likesLmao duke of the dank 😂😂
16 likesMAKE UHHH... FUCKING UHHH... FRYING THAT FISH THAT WAS IN THE BACKGROUND FOR 7.63+1 SECONDS
0 likesknock knock YouTube gestapo hand over your monetization and views.
0 likesWhat site are the games being played are from/on?
0 likesAnyone remember CSGO Surf?
3 likesYou should become a bloons channel
0 likes22:00
1 likeOn Mumkey's channel...
Wait internet historian LMAO WHAT
0 likesRip leafy I never liked him
0 likesMONTIZON
8 likesI spy a Max Headroom video in the background
0 likesIf it weren't for what you have to say, I'd hate you for your voice.
1 likeWhy video must be 51 minute?! >:(
0 likesyou should talk about pyrocynical
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Roberto Marú he's anything buy dead
3 likesI think he was one of the leafy clones he was referring to
2 likesYou mean leafy 2.5 remix edition
7 likesit could be a follow up video to the youtube geographic
0 likesPretty sure if pyro was even bigger than leafy at the time he would've been the big target and got taken down by iDubbbz.
1 likePyro still alive he just got less interesting... He trying to make different content tho
0 likesthere's not much to talk about Pyro. He's only changed his content for the better and that's pretty much the end of it.
8 likesI deserve nothing but Catastrophic diseases I think it's part of his messy content to say the least. (which I still enjoy nonetheless, tbh.) Hope Niall brings back the shitty bootleg meme reviews
1 likeI miss his mlg videos...
1 likemayor dickcheese talks about leafy 2: electric boogaloo
0 likesCollab with colossal?!
0 likeswow great gameplay dude
0 likesyou forgot to tell us to unsubscribe
0 likesＵｐｗａｒｄ Ｓｐｉｒａｌ？
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Tim Plumlee p
7 likesI S N O T P O S S I B L E
Tim Plumlee p Visible Confusion
1 likeI hope
0 likesM e d i c w h e r e i s m y u b e r
0 likesLeafy he died for our subs
0 likesI wish you would see this. But the yogscast channel looks like it's the first to get cencored by youtube.
0 likes22:28 yikes...
0 likesTo the new 50k, dont forget to UNSUBSCRIBE.
0 likesREST👋😭IN⬇️🛐PEACE☮🛐LEAFY🍃😭👌
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Peter crucified upside down is now peace? Well.
1 likePeter crucified upside down is my favorite action figure.
1 likeI smell burning leafys. 😈
0 likesSo, no GradeAUnderA video?
0 likes51 minutes too short
0 likesI love that game
0 likesPress f to pay respects
7 likesF
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2 likesF
1 likeF
1 likeleafy hasn't been relevant for nearly 3 years and you're still milking his name lmao
0 likesEy. When can we expect the video about STER_?
0 likesTommy C! :D
0 likesWhy is the max headroom incident in the backgroud
0 likesT O D A Y W E G E T T O B U L L Y L E A F Y
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Jacob Wood One down 100 more to go and some are harder to take down then others. Look at Keemstar or Jake paul. Did way more horrible things and still.
0 likesHE FORGOT TO PUT IT IN GAMING CATEGORY IM UNSUBSCRIBING
0 likesNo ads for you
0 likesNo problem
0 likesSauce
3 likesI need that video about STAR_
0 likesPlease
Leafy is a Quake fan?
1 likeawesome
Leafy's chin confirmed for infinity war 2
0 likesThe algorithm against me! No one ever sees my comments!
0 likesWoke
14 likesWhat the fuck happened to Mumkey Jones?
0 likesAnd no pewdiepie is still a child entertainer. He makes stupid meme videos and gets away with copying shit because he is the biggest youtuber
1 likeyou should make a documentary on leafy see if you can get in touch with him
0 likesWhat about the 2 mil in leafys bank account?
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MightyTax if he doesn't know how to use that properly he would end up broken anyway.
1 likeHe's using it very intelligently. Most people would buy a Lamborghini, or a giant mansion, and then ending up broke. By not spending a lot of it is a very smart move.
5 likesSinonMercer yeah,that's a good move
1 likeMightyTax over billion views and only 2 million? Dag. Tv networks would love those views but still make many millions a year. Wtf
0 likesi kinda like this calm commentary something different not like fortnite
0 likesDidn't get notifications for this video.
1 like#bringleafyback #leafyblacklisted
0 likesHoly shit it’s leafy
0 likes
5 likesWhoActually its 60 min and 30 sec.
0 likesleafy has recently moved to a cirtan pornographic site fo reasons unknown
0 likeslol why would Tommy C have any real information regarding Leafy, he is completely irrelevant
0 likesin my opinion leafy deserved it
0 likesWhy video have to be 60 minutes
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Wolfin off, me as an aristocrat I watch it at 0.5 X speed so I can really understand the Emplemon experience
7 likesI watched this video TWICE!
0 likesNO EXCUSES!!!!
Leafy Upwards spiral when?
0 likesYour background music gave me ptsd. I've played so much of that shit for orchestra
0 likesI think you should check out a channel called: Airsoft Fatty. You might find it interesting.
0 likes46:16 sabatoged
0 likesInteresting, but did you hear BillyTheFridge's comments about Leafy recently? He talked about it recently on his live stream. He knows Calvin personally, and his comments made me rethink what happened to Leafy. According to him, Calvin never wanted to be famous. He says Calvin had a set goal. 5 million dollars. Once he had earned that much from Youtube he was leaving regardless. This made me completely rethink the situation.
4 likesYou see...I think that's why Calvin didn't really care about his content being good. He didn't want good, he wanted views and in 2015 he found out how to get views after trying several other things first. See this is why he was fine with his channel being a 20 year old guy "roasting" kids. He didn't care what the content was, because he didn't care about being on Youtube for a long period of time. That's not what he wanted. He wanted to cash a paycheck as fast as he could, and get the hell out. People blame the content cop, blame Youtube, and blame whatever they can think of. Truth is....I think Calvin was much smarter than people give him credit for being. I think his response to the Content Cop was bad on purpose. He was close to his goal, and uploading less and less frequently on purpose as well. He was letting it all fizzle out slowly on purpose, because being famous and staying famous on Youtube was never his goal. Make the money, and get out while the getting is good.
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He only ever made about 3.5 million though if not less
0 likesyou should make a youtube geographic on CaptainSparklez because he's loosing subs to the point where he's about to go below 10 million subs.
0 likesme no have attention span to watch 100 minute video
0 likesLeafy=Human
0 likesIs The Mumkey Jones Documentary video deleted?
0 likes27 views 86 likes
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stormin norman wow I never heard of this YouTube glitch in every other comment section.
9 likesOh no what do we do
0 likesOh no, it hasn't updated.
0 likesoriginality level -100
0 likesBionicDr4gon I've honestly never seen this one before, geuss I'm an uncultured pig
1 likeWHATS THE GAME AT THE BEGING THE TRUCK ONE I PLAYED IT AS A CHILD
0 likesYou spoil us
0 likesTbh, the original Leafy video felt a lot shorter than 51 minutes.
0 likeswhat's up everybody it's your favourite teletubbie reviewer
0 likesFish
4 likesI'd never been sucked into the whole Leafy drama thing, but toxicity and social psychology interest me. I was originally debating if I should subscribe on the grounds of political disagreement, (I confess, I find myself unable to say something positive about Trump, if only because if he does do something positive, I'm going to be skeptical about it because his track record has shown many bigoted, selfish decisions.) I subscribed anyway because your video had a number of opinions that were three months out of date, and since a number of things have happened since then, it would be unfair to judge you based on opinions you might not have anymore. In addition, your analytical skills have proven sharp time and time again, and to lose a possible source of food for thought based on that alone would've been a rather wasteful decision.
0 likesIts not long enough
0 likes葉っぱはここでした!
0 likesshit i forgot to unsubscribe, my bad.
0 likesHow do you get 2k likes on a comment?
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by being Justin Y
12 likesSorry bro, not happening
11 likesMentis certainly not like this
6 likesMentis shoot lower, then edit your comments a bit higher.
2 likesThe Epic Gamer MLWW2401 Sorry for what? Not asking for likes asking how to get them.
2 likesIt happens usually by luck but some of the best ways to set 2k comments is to find that witty joke and then place it and it the Youtuber doesn't see the comments that can be considered easier because it is a more balanced effort but if the Youtuber does see it then the comment needs to basically follow their sense of humor. Also just be random it helps
3 likesHope this helps
Wolfin
3 likesJustin Y is a normie
DaVi HONK5TV Or is it? Thanks homie.
2 likesAnytime
1 likeBe fast, be witty, get lucky. In that order.
1 likeBy being stickmaster5000
1 likeat least have a reason to
1 likeotherwise its a useless comment with no originality
GradeAunderA makes videos now
1 likedo you think that youtube suppress's any republican / conservative content
0 likesYou should check out the channel call. The Gamer Tron show, the guy ear Lee sounds like leafy.
0 likesWhere are the star_ questions?
0 likesUpward Spiral?
0 likesHissssss (in honour to fallen comrade)
0 likesWhat's the game called?
0 likeswhat the fuck dude now i want to play potty racers
0 likesOh shit, a new video
1 likeWhat up
Why do you say the word majority funny?
0 likesI wonder if leafy watches ur vids
0 likesi didnt get the notification for the video... .____.
0 likesCalvinIsHere
1 like10/10 unrelated gameplay
0 likesWow.
0 likesCase closed
0 likesjesus christ lmao
0 likes18:50 well, surely most people use the internet. Like half of accounts in Youtube don't even have any videos.
0 likesSo just because he is not making videos and commenting everywhere under his old name does not mean anything.
So yeah I'm quite sure he uses the internet like everyone else does
Ffs, I hate TommyC
0 likesAm I the only one who watched the entire Leafy video?
0 likesHAH! yes.
0 likesWhere's meme of the month?
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ligma
0 likesLemonIsHere
1 likeThe amount of research, work, time, and anything else you put into this video really showed off. This was very worth the hour I spent watching it. Keep doin your shit emplemon. 👍🏻
1 likei love you, Emp Lemon! <3
1 likeyou do such great work on your videos, and very thorough research... keep up the good fight!!!
I really hope leafy comes back. I honestly really enjoyed his videos... Even after his downfall, I still watched all his videos. I miss him, more than anyone else who has left.
1 likeGreat video, I can feel the passion you put into content.
0 likesCongrats man, also, you shouldnt be surprised you got those views and subs, your vids are very well put together and your memes are hilarious. I think you are going to grow even further.
0 likesYeah dude I love it when you put out long videos (informative and interesting) because I can sit back and relax at night and not have to scour YouTube for interesting content with 50 different 3 minute videos. I get excited when I open up one of your 50-60 minute videos
2 likesi loved the leafy youtube geographic and then watched the other geographics... i also just love your ytps in general even the ones that were meant as like jabs at the people that only wanted "usual content". i also just love your editing styles and your roasts of jimmy kimmel and how trump memed his way into office are 2 of my personal favorites along with the leafy geographic. keep making awesome content i cant wait to see me
1 likeI really enjoy the longer videos like this. This was very interesting to learn about the whereabouts of that young man, and it seems odd to think that there was a time when he was on top and now there's nothing.
0 likesI was introduced to your channel a few years ago by the UNcredibles, and that kind of content did not earn my subscription lol. When I watched Leafy Was Here, however, I was surprised to learn that it was by the same guy, and I subbed. You should definitely keep this up.
I was actually astounded and impressed the video was as long as it was. That takes dedication.
1 likeI do hope scripted work is still a style you enjoy, because they're very interesting dives into topics.
1 likeIt's understandable that they take quite a while though, and doing an unscripted follow-up. Plus you often mention that, in order to remain relevant and engaged, it helps to change up one's style fairly often.
i really enjoyed this one Emp! keep up the good work! you and the bois are cracking youtube.
0 likesHonestly, I will watch all of your videos, regardless of duration. If I'm on limited time, I put the speed at 2x or slower to understand it better.
1 likeyou deserve it. That documentary was one of the best videos I´ve watched
0 likesWow, really love all of the videos you've been making, and this is coming from someone who's been here since the ye olde days of spingebill poops and the like. Keep it up!
0 likesTo be honest, I always love watching theses regardless of how long they are.
0 likesHey i like your longer videos I hope you keep doing this kind of thing but only if you want because your content is very inspired in my eyes and I hope that your interest in YouTube continues thanks for the fun mate
0 likesgod this was an AMAZING video, really changes your view on leafy. theres much more to it than it seems
0 likesCrazy video emp you clearly put time and effort into this and was really engaging for me as former leafy fan back in his golden age 👏👏👏👏
0 likesThanks Emplemon (and Tommy C),you made me give some sympathy for leafy, at least he is still fine today. This video (the ending part) probably made me feel like I wanted to cry and also with this fitting music.
0 likesI first discovered you years ago with your great ytps when I was little, but now over the years I saw you changed in 2016/17 with your content. While some people will complain about the watch time or it wasn't frying dory, I think your newer content is amazing (if not better than your ytps). I think this is why you are one of my favorite youtubers. (btw your editing is top notch)
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You may or may not see/favorite this comment, but if you do, thanks. I think I am one of the few genuine fans of this channel.
0 likesI wish Leafy would comeback to YouTube, and save us from the bore fest that's the commentary community. When leafy and Grade left this site there were no longer any trend setters in this community just barfing the same talk points to other YouTubers mouth till everyone is bored as fuck. With that being said, I really could see him being a twitch streamer if cared about numbers that much. I truly miss 2016.. 2017 was a mistake of year. If it was deleted off this earth that would be just fine by me. I'd like to see EmpLemon and Leafy to do a cross over like when Jontron and Airn did the games grumps thing that was still great time for me. I don't think YouTube will have as much of height as it did in 2016. I think from now on everything will be manufactured at a boardmeeting. And we all have to eat how boring things will become. Yay for recycled boring uninteresting waste of time content.
1 likeI love you emperor lemon, I actually wanted to know more about leafy and I always had the itching feeling about his background and all. I really didn't think that content cop was the indefinitely his downfall and when I saw your leafy video (when it came out) it really solved many questions but also raised many more. This video answered many more than it raised and honestly I'm more satisfied now than before that leafy video and I really thank you for presenting such a good informative video. I have watched from the first second to the last second and I do really respect your opinions and views and ways of researching because I share those exact views and opinions 100% (talking about all videos in general btw). You have to be one of my favorite or if not favorite youtuber on this platform for being a realist and just coming up with good content (I was here for your YTP just not subbed because I was really young and I didn't really know how to work youtube). So I just really wanted to say thanks for your hardwork on this video and all of your videos and I do really appreciate you downward spiral crazy man. Keep up the amazing videos and work <3
0 likeswow. thats just...wow. i always thought he was some arrogant asshole,as i never had enough of an interest to research him much myself. but now i feel kinda bad for him...
2 likesGreat follow up, I loved the leafywashere vid and this is a great way to tie up loose ends. Thanks papa emp
0 likesYou know what? good for him he's well off doing his thing and he's fine.
0 likesthis is such a compelling story. there's so many layers to leafy's channel and so many factors that ultimately lead to his demise. and this whole time i just thought he was a toxic kid on the internet who got shat on for being toxic
0 likesthis is very thought provoking. more like this please.
0 likesWatching these two Leafy videos, I realised something. Me and him are very similar personality-wise. I'm guessing that's why I used to be a big fan of him until he solely just insulted specific individuals.
0 likesI'm a newer subscriber and I love your discussion videos. I should go back and watch your ytp's at some point. In fact, some of the ytp-ers that I watch have said that you were one of their inspirations. Props to you.
0 likesThis was absolutely beautiful and fascinating
0 likesGreat video! Thanks for making this. The 1h of education, right?
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in that 1h the like button colour changed
0 likesThis was really interesting, well done
0 likesThat testimony is crazy. Leafy is a very interesting fella indeed, or at least his portrayal on this video was. The kind of person that plays the game and fuck the consequences.
0 likesKeep up the good work.
1 likeThank you EmpLemon, very cool.
2 likesCongrats from ytp to this, keep it up mate
0 likesYo my guy emp lemon I've been watching your channel since your Cars YTP. You have been the best ever since your start. Keep doing your thing!
1 like40:30 No more stones, no more slings, no more spears, no more swords, no more weapons, no more systems, NO MORE, NO MORE SUPERPOWERS
1 likeI don’t know why but there are few long videos on YouTube that I watch all the way through but with emp lemon, I watch it all the way through because it’s effort and entertaining unlike everything else.
0 likesDamit they know I’m a kid
For those of you who don’t wanna watch this, just put some earphones on and listen in the background while doing something’s else lol
0 likesLovely, a long video, thank god I have something to listen to while I cook.
1 likeI’ve been thinking about that “if Leafy hadn’t died” discussion, and I honestly think if he were still around he would be perfect for the reddit reaction videos that Pyrocynical, Sorrow TV, and similar channels do. Making fun of people on r/niceguys or r/creepypms is pretty much the new roast video imo, and it’s a lot less cancerous because it’s harder to find the person being made fun of.
0 likesThat video was actually the first video I saw and I liked it so much that I started watching other of your videos and ended up subscribing
0 likesThis video here isn't something you watch it's like a podcast. You listen to it while doing other things. Hell at least that's what I did...
0 likesMy favorite youtubers in one video? Is there a god? Yes...the great Montizon is real and he has cast his great spell of love and monetization upon us!
0 likes16:30
1 likeYouTube wanted GradeA gone? Didn't he also have connections with Susan Wojack, the Wicked Witch of the Web? What a coincidence.
Your my favorite YouTuber haven't seen a good YouTuber like you since the AVGN
0 likesTHIS WAS THE BEST HOUR OF MY LIFE XD
0 likesI think his isolation may have contributed to his sociopathic behavior. The guy just needs to spend time with people more.
0 likesWe need more historical analysis!!
0 likesWow that last interview... I cried
0 likesCongrats on a million views on the Leafy vid. I'm one those fan you told to unsub, glad I didn't.
0 likesAppearently from what I heard is that YouTube was letting ads run on ISIS videos and that’s why the advertisers pulled out.
1 likeEmpLemon is the most underrated youtuber & I thought some ordinary gamers was it but nope
0 likesHoly fuck, this video was amazing.
0 likesYEEESS FINALLY u fricken broke me and now i cant watch videos under 27 minutes but now u repay me with ONE HOUR ty senpai, much respec
0 likesI can handle 51 minutes of an edited and scripted video, I can't even make 5 minutes into this HOT GARBAGE rambling about a video I've already seen. In my opinion, if you're gonna do unscripted videos, keep it short & fresh.
0 likesLeafy was the kind of cancer that warmed my heart. The child hatred was great for me, Because I wuz gud boi
0 likesDamn hearing tommy c talk about leafy reminds me alot of myself
0 likesWell that was interesting. I guess that pretty much confirms it
0 likesAmazing video. Thank you for closure
0 likesAmazing video. Thank you for closure
0 likesShit this reaches much deeper than I expected
0 likesMy opinions are jumbled in everything, this video has made me utterly confused
0 likesWhat YouTube Geographic video are you gonna make next?
2 likes8:25 you missed the triple dart, lol.
0 likesWow, that intro was humble
0 likesThat leafy vid kept getting recommended to me so I finally watch it. I really like so I watched your other stuff and like those. The I subscribed.
0 likesA video about the response to a previous video that manages to be even longer than the original.
0 likesok sounds good
this downward spiral tastes amazing, what's the secret?
0 likesThe best thing Leafy did for me was introducing me to JoeysWorldTour
0 likesi feel bad because im watching this one-hour long video with ad block on.. i didnt install it, it was my friend when he was watching anime on my pc
0 likesYou know, this is cool and all but... When are we getting the Uncredibles 2: ElecThicc Boogaloo?
0 likesOne of these videos? One hour long!? FUCK YES
0 likesKeep up the unscrizzizled videos.
0 likesJust letting you know I’m still here, since you seem to not like what I normally comment. Letting you know I also disagree with several things in this video, like about leafy coming back, and thinking about that time I said YouTube wasn’t hunting you and you disagreed, since you mentioned how you’ve seen the biggest spike in numbers you’ve had. Also, I used to like Mumkey but he dealt way too fucking much with content that wasn’t the core of his channel, so I had to leave. Complained too much and made too little.
0 likesI never thought I'd watch all 60 minutes
0 likesWell, I watched the whole thing.
0 likesAnybody have any idea how I can stop being a normie? I like the way you guys dunked on shia and would like to participate but I can’t figure out how to use websites other than youtube and twitch
0 likes51 mins? Too short. I could listen to EMPEROR LEMON!
0 likesWhat you said in the original video was true "Everyone who was involved with leafy came out on top at the expense of leafy, himself" Even you proffitted from this a year later.
0 likesaww what? An hour long? It isn't long enough.
0 likesCongrats, from poops to fame it seems.
0 likesWow I just got more info on Leafy through this video!
0 likesIly if I could have any one upload daily without any quality drop somehow, it would be you.
0 likesI don't care if the videos long, hell I used to be a leafy fan!
0 likesi dont think leafy cared and he legit got to into some girl and just gave up
0 likesare you aware of the video raids on Ennio Morricone's song A Gringo Like Me after the leafy video came out?
2 likesyou target the youtube, the youtube targets BACK
0 likesWhat meta of youtube are we in now
0 likesNo I liked the long video. Then I checked out ur channel and I’m not disappointed.
0 likesyou got so many layers, emp. are you an ogre by any chance?
0 likesSo the naisily meme head we all knew and hated, was actually a fucking 200 IQ Sevant who quit not because of the hate, but because he was bored and lost interest in the game....
0 likesThis is a very interesting dive into Leafy.
0 likesEMP DO YOU THINK IF THE CEO OF YOUTUBE GET FIRED OR OUT OF THE PICTURE... COULD YOUTUBE BE SAVE???
0 likesWhere will the DoWnWaRd SpIrAl take us next, prophet
1 likeIs youtube now addictive to you? you seemed worried about your channel getting tampered with
0 likesi really get what colassal is saying everyone attacked leafy for making vids on kids and now everyone is making videos on lil tay a child
1 likewelcome to the doward spiral meta
0 likesLeafy Was Here was the first video I watched in your channel
0 likes25:45 cough cough Sophia Doubleyouwah (among others...)
Bring back leafy!
0 likesI miss leafy trolling.
0 likesRight when it said ad time I got an ad.
0 likesthe leafy MEMEORIAL
0 likesBruh your videos pop up in my recommended literally everywhere
0 likesAbout the suppression thing, I think they were, I had Notifacations on, and I was getting Notifacations from everyone else but you
0 likesHell yeah the original bloons!
0 likescan you do a youtube documentary on Star_?
0 likesSixty minutes I'm not watching that...
0 likesJust kidding good video
THIS ISN'T A YOUTUBE POOP!!!
0 likesI miss when my subcribers all of them got my videos in their notification box.
0 likesToday I saw one of his videos in my recommended box
0 likesTop ten dank memes of 2017?
0 likesYou’re welcome
0 likesIf you were to do a sequal, do HonorTheCall. His channel died hard.
0 likesMaybe Leafy would've destroyed Jake Paul for the shit he did. Maybe Leafy destroyed SSSniperwolf for lying. Maybe Leafy would destroy Lele Pons for faking a cancer donation. Or any other awful succesful YouTuber. I think he would destroyed a lot of bad channels but also a lot of innocent ones.
1 likeMy channel is on a downward spiral (feelsbadman)
0 likesColossalisCrazy needs to work on his spelling.
0 likesYou seem more mellow I like it.
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Also I forgot if you mentioned it in the last video or I mentioned it but at the time I was starting to think what leafy did was immoral even before anything happened I thought he was too mean and used his power in the wrong ways also I thought of points in the idubbz video but I couldn’t do anything about it because I am small on this platform and risk the chance of his army screaming at me and a lot of hate so I couldn’t do anything I wanted to but I had no power it was the whole website against me and I also thought a lot of points keemstar had wasn’t really valid and old so I again was on the opposing side.So when I saw the video I was relieved to find everyone was with idubbz because they were in the same silent stance or they were 9 year olds who listen the the epic edgelords😎 either way this in my mind was a path for change and betterment I was wrong although leafy wasn’t moral this platform turned horrible worse than when he was here I thought maybe I could go back to 2012 but it’s too late.And after the drama I avoided his channel purposely because I don’t really like hateful content and drama even if I agree so personally I didn’t see the black ball by YouTube.I wanted to say this to put another possibility on why he declined.
0 likes30-40 minutes in and I love colossaliscrazy’s statement summarized what I think unless it contradicts what I just said because something’s he said was like I don’t really agree on it.I understand he might not be the best person but the things he did was still scummy and you don’t have to defend him for it he might be a good person but he still did shitty things.
0 likes28:20
0 likesWhat did you do.
good video
0 likesHey EmpSemen, are you going to do a q&a for comments?
0 likesPlzz respond
Wierd to think that Leafy used to be on trending
0 likesi like this stuff
0 likesI didn't expect my comment to actually be featured. Lol.
0 likesyaaay, i love bloons!
0 likesPewdiepie wasn't being racist when he said the n word
1 likeBA BA BA BA PLAY THAT FUCKING SHIT
2 likescatch you in the next one
0 likesCalvin.
0 likesI like that name.
holy shit colossal
0 likesLol behind the meme music in the background
0 likesOoh, my favorite
0 likesPodcasts are soooo 2018
0 likesGuys why isn't my dog making June minute meme special
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This is WAAAAYY more important.
0 likesAre you a fan of Danny Brown? Idk why but it seems like you are a fan
0 likesWhat commentary you tubers was be talking about
0 likesoy i thought the title said TommyNC2010
0 likesA bit too close to the mic
0 likes21:37 is that begnagrad-coc'n rolla I hear?
0 likesheck yes
0 likesoh my lorde Lemon
0 likesDAM SON
0 likesimagine if leafy is watching this video
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Random Stock Image he might be
0 likesRIP adobe flash
0 likesWow thanks
0 likeswhat music was played in the background
0 likesIm in that 50000
0 likesWhat’s the music at 26:08
0 likesI don't want leafy back
1 likeI was here.
0 likes18:30 lol
0 likesAyyy Tommy C
0 likesgratz my niggalmao
0 likesLeafy will return and save the internet from logan paul
0 likesYT geographic on ole fouseytube
0 likesLast comment I swear but I have a question.... if leafy was alive do u think he could kill Logan Paul and Jake Paul?
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Darth Panda ya but think ove it like this IF leafy comes back and make’s a vid on the Paul’s that vid would get a shot load of views and he would get a shit ton of subs from that and with a shit ton of subs he gets a shit ton of fans back and in turn they would send hate to the Paul’s. I’m not saying he would kill there channels but he would send the a lot of hate
0 likes"titilated"
0 likesI hope Leafy don't start another mass killing and khs
0 likesLeafyishere was never very funny or super intrestint. Calvin is a funny guy. He should drop the leafy persona and just be himself
0 likesHopefully eventuAlly you will get 1 million subscribee
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Hope you like my engrish
0 likes>tfw Leafy is on some american psycho shit
0 likeswhat the fuck, this is not the dude I expected to hear about. good vid emp.
HISSSSSSSSSSS
2 likesPlease stop talking about YouTube and go back to making funny videos about Samuel Jackson.
0 likesyoutube kids?
0 likes•Mmm, yes
0 likesDo trying dory
0 likesBloons, wow
0 likesdon't get a big head
0 likesMumbling same things oger and oger
0 likesTommy Chong?
0 likesPlot twist emplemon is leafy
0 likesHonestly what Leafy did was pretty bad in some ways. Namely making fun of kids and people with mental deficiencies. Problem is, people still do that and rake in millions of views. And barely anyone has been saying anything about how bad they are. What am I talking about? Two words: Cringe Compilations. Hell, cringe compers can be worse than Leafy. Some, like the art cringe-compers who give constructive criticism, or the people who expose actual cringy behaviors(pedophiles, cyberbullies, celeb stalkers, zoophiles, art thieves, etc.), are good. But many others are art thieves themselves, as in they snatch “cringy” pics and videos off of Deviantart/Youtube and either credit the users, opening them up to witch hunts(even if they warn against harassing the artists) or leave them uncredited, and if it’s videos they’re showing, basically taking that person's video and getting views off of it; or are being cyberbullies themselves.
0 likesYou should watch the no jumper podcast with Adam22 fouseytube Shane Dawson ice Poseidon keem star Hampton Brandon Sam pepper it was a really crazy one it’s 3 hours long but Fosho a staple in YouTube geography
0 likesNice
0 likesNice
0 likesleafyhaswon
0 likesnice, but ok
0 likesI'm new 😊
0 likesLeafy didn't just died | He was murdered
0 likesCool math games gameplay
0 likesIs Leafy muh brotha?
0 likes25:45
0 likesFrying leafy?
0 likesNot another one...
1 likeI subbed from that Leafy Video...
1 like4 Wheel Madness looks like a good game.
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Jesus, that's good Bloons gameplay.
0 likesWoah that Korean twerking game looks sick.
0 likesThat Meal or No Meal food game looks tasty.
0 likesNice, I want to play Potty Racers on my phone.
0 likesThat Max Dirtbike game gives me nostalgia.
0 likesOh I see
0 likesYou are Leafy.
0 likesNo one realises what happened to Leafy or no one CARES?
0 likesCensorship is bullshit but if it had to happen atleast it happened to someone deserving of it.
8:15 9/11
0 likesLeafy died of brain cancer
0 likesOh fuck an 1 hour
1 likefrying dory lol
0 likesLeacher
0 likeslol flash games and ps i am from one of those new subs
0 likesWILL YOU UNSUBSCRIBE???
0 likesI do think YouTube tries to take down Rice cause why else would the Rice content cop trending on 1 for 2 days. It was the only video trending for 2 days in the whole history. But they aint attacking his recommendations because hes less of a problem. His community isnt as toxic. Rice attacks others making his fans send Ls. Rice fans more think of haha youre a loser. While leafy fans are mad and think you should die because Leafy gives reasons to hate that person so much while Rice arguments are more disses (not serious) Leafy attacks others and his fans troll, ddos, hack, say death treats, ...
0 likes+50k normals
1 likeWhy u no make category Gaming?
0 likesMe have no attention span ape noise me rage
0 likesI'm glad you finally got good coverage from Montizon, you really deserve it considering the effort you have put into writing and editing these videos, even though I presume it's a hobby.
0 likesCongratulations on the success man, I knew you could do great!
0 likesI’ve loved this channel for a very long time, keep up the good work Emp.
0 likesYou're the only person I know on my sub list that I'll watch hour long videos for. Keep it up man :D you could say your switch paid off.
0 likesIve been watching you since the Spingebill poops, and honestly the leafy video was one of the best videos you ever made. I have a soft spot in my heart for series like Down The Rabbit Hole and yours that take a dive into subjects that most only scratch. Enjoy your trip through the downwards spiral Emp, i'll be back whenever you upload again
0 likesYour really good at satirical comedy and getting your point across keep it up
0 likesIm glad you took the time to appreciate the folks who watch your hour long vids in one sittin lmao
0 likesCongrats on those 50k subscribers! Hope they don’t end up as “empty subs” my guy
0 likesHardest decision of my life to save this video for work tomorrow or enjoy it rn.... I think rn. Keep up the content emp!!
0 likesAt this point, I expect a long video from EmpLemon.
2 likesCertainly not for no reason your YouTube Geographic series has blown up as it has— it's fantastic stuff. Some have tried and failed to do similar things, but you're the perfect person to document internet history from an inside perspective like this. Glad to have you around, Emp.
0 likesWhere there's a meme, there's a way.
2 likesYou have no idea how much I love your lengthy analysis of topics.
0 likesDon’t you just love it when Youtube censors people you like to watch, and show you annoying Youtubers you hate?
1 likeif someone asked what is the primary example for good and highly researched commentary content on youtube i would without hesitation point out 'leafy was here' and this video just to give some more insight. great work man keep it up
0 likesPS. love from Poland
I love long videos, they are way more entertaining then 10 minutes and less videos.
0 likeswell then, good thing I just sat down by the fire place with my red wine, because I have a great feeling that this viedo may infact need a rewatch... its interesting becuase your videos emp, are really re watchable, I keep finding myself rewatching many of them on a monthly downward spiral... but infact that shows the quality of your content and how well it will age in time... personally Ive been around when you first did ytps, and ive stayed not only for ytps, but for your new content just like this..what im trying to say is that im glad you exist to grace us with more information, now if you dont mind, I will continue to watch with my full attention. 😍
0 likes..It is interesting how much YouTube, and the you tubers inside it can cause a slight downfall that leads to a spiral. And some people don't see that, because they don't watch the full thing, I understand that some people don't have the time, but personally I love your longer vids because they provide more information then the average you tuber that tries to bend that 10:02 min watch time, but the question is what next, you've gone into the study of You tubers in a way, along with "blacklisted channels" from the grasp of YouTube, and even random events like mei aids and neutral response....and one of my favs your high school story...You remind me of https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGLTvOqJOcbIwBtX0Rou2gw (Rags) a content creator who, mainly talks about gaming, but still seems to have the same pull as you, just thought Id point it out.
Its best to understand how you feel about youtube, your life, and personal events ..because in the future it could be how we look back on you, if you change or the downward spiral kicks in for the last time.also is that war thunder music at the 41 min mark?
"ill catch you in the next one"
YES A NEW EMPLEMON VIDEO!
0 likes(Edit) This Video was so amazing! I really cannot wait for whatever you make next! Keep up the amazing work as always!
Just out of curiosity, would you consider that one video, that was designed to break the algorithm, a success?
0 likesYeah man, that video you made on Leafy was fuckin' great. Congrats on your new 50k subs.
0 likeskind of giggling to myself that the classical music is playing over a stickman riding and shitting in a potty
0 likesalso emp you should do a podcast, this shit is actually pretty bueno to listen to when walking the dog excs dee
also i fucking LOVE the max headroom downward spiral gif, it would be cool if you could provide a link to that or make a video on max's hack attack from back in the day
i was seven minutes in before i realized this was an hour long... and im probably going to watch all of it
0 likesWe don’t deserve this much blessings from you.
0 likesUr amazing man keep up great content
0 likesI made the right decision to stick with emp after he switched his content from ytp to his commentaries/rants
0 likesThe Leafy doc was one of your best videos by far.
0 likesI love how you upload more and more we need your wisdom
0 likes(Zon Bless)
Leafy come home-
1 likeLeafy now I know I was wrong I messed up and now you’re gone
Leafy I’m sorry I neglected you
Oh, I never expect you to run away and leave me feeling this empty
Your rants right now would sound like music to me
Please come home, cause I miss you Leafy
(Leafy come home)
Leafy come
(Leafy come home)
Poor little leafy you’re my best friend too cool to forget come back to cause we are family and forgive me for making you want to roam
And not my heart is beating like the saddest metronome
Somewhere I hope you’re reading my latest 3 word poem
Leafy come home
(Leafy come home)
Leafy come home
(Leafy come home)
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FoulestBee43 :o get a room you two
0 likesBenevolent Veteran I wish
0 likesDoctor: You have an hour to live
0 likesMe: watches this
I subbed after watching ur leafy vid and vatched most of all of your commentary style videos. I love your channel and your thoughts. Btw fav vid is the senior year story.
0 likesAlso, u like some good music man
I remember posting a cringe compilation on my channel and YouTube gave me shit for it and yet other people do cringe compilations and seemingly nothing happens to them.
0 likesImagine how the OG subs feel about the state of this channel
0 likesThere’s a good amount of dirt to warrant a half hour YouTube geographic, check put his livestream breakdowns, he really couldn’t take any criticism whatsoever.
0 likesI find the unscripted videos interesting, but I also really enjoy the long, scripted uploads.
0 likesAre you completely switching to the unscripted format?
Someone said (I don't remember who) saw leafy in shades and a hoodie in a store in Seattle. So he's still doing good apparently to the guy
0 likes24:50 "Clout"
0 likesAlso I 100% agree with Colossal
I give you the utmost respect, duke of dank.
0 likesSad enough his, last video before quitting was actually on an important topic in Youtube at the time.
0 likesOnly emplemon can upload a video where he discusses another one of his uploads and is even longer than the very video he discusses...
0 likesOh shit. Old man Tommy breaking away from the live streaming. careful Emp. He'll steal yo girl and your beer.
0 likesDamn; the ColossalisCrazy/TommyC bits were insightful.
0 likesWhat was your overall opinion of Leafly?
1 likethanks for the welcome, I really enjoy your content
0 likesAnother hour of EmpLemon?
0 likesheats up popcorn
DO MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS
0 likesSo March and May were great months for memes but youtube doesn’t seem to care anymore
1 likeIf there is a voyager 3 mission we shall put this unscripted 1 hour long video of leafy in it for the aliens to see
0 likesI remember playing those flash games back in Elementary school.
0 likesThis YT Geographic is like the History of Japan of his channel
0 likesYoutube Geographic is the next big show!
0 likesQuestion, do you think that YouTube is doing the same thing that it did to Leafy to certain Political channels on the site? Do you think that it's possible that YouTube may be helping channels that it agrees with or tolerates politically? Does YouTube buff some channels while nerfing others?
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You answered my first question in the video...sorry. I'll keep watching to see if my second question gets answered and if so I'll just delete the comment.
0 likesI think going unscripted is a mistake. Your greatest content has been done scripted. I’m excited to see how this turns out, but I think you may lose a bit of nuance in this shift.
0 likesCould you do a video on how you write a script for Youtube?
0 likesYour video didn't completely change my opinion of Leafy, but it's interesting to know that he may have been a victim of the YT system
0 likesThat was the longest time, I watched Max Headroom hack clip ever!
0 likesit's as leafy said, make a video of Leafy and you'll get a million views on said video. Still love your work though.
0 likesif you put it to 1.5 speed, he sounds smart
0 likesThis is too wholesome d i s l i k e
0 likesLet us pour out some of our downward spiral to memorialize leafy
0 likesSpits out coffee
0 likesI don't even like coffee, but this is an hour long.
I LOVE YOU TOMMY C AND EMP LEMON
0 likesDude why do you have to upload when I’m going to bed
0 likesEdit: well I just watched the video now (2 days later) and it was really good! Great job.
Lmao you played the oldschool bloons. Gives me some nostalgia.
0 likesThis one Greets our Overlord EmperorLemon.
0 likesEmplemon, could I have some ice with my glass of downward spiral?
1 like9:13 so satisfying when he popped all the ballons xd
0 likesI feel like a 90 year old now!
0 likesCan somebody summarize me the whole purpose of this video and not let me waste 1 hour on watching this?
0 likesWhere can I find myself a glass of Downward Spiral?
0 likesit was well made
0 likesIn my recommended after watching both your videos and some leafy videos 1. Videos about leafy 2.idubbz video about keemstar 3. MMA videos 4. 2 more of your videos.... I’ve watched only 2 of your videos and it’s recommending me 3 of your videos and I watched about 7 leafy videos and not one recommendation at all I’m pretty sure your right
1 likeLove you Emp
0 likesThanks for the gameplay because I couldn’t have payed attention I know its weird
0 likesThis is gonna be fun
1 likeWoah, it's a one man podcast.
0 likesThis is a good video to watch half of
0 likesWell now I know what I’m going to be watching for the next hour until Feh channel
0 likesI'm pretty sure YouTube is throttling my views too, after I put an "unrecognized" link on the (i) thing on one of my videos.
0 likesIs this an Hour video of EmpLemon oh how you spoil us.
0 likesSo these new channels can be kind of like the breakup of the Roman Empire with the Germanic Tribes the Byzantines and more
0 likesoh dude, i loved bloons, that was the s***, that was the best. my favorite is btd3, and i remember first seeing my brother playing it.
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Kinda of amazing that bloons has moved to mobile as well
0 likesYo, you are pretty good at that Monkey Balloon-Popping game
0 likesAyye glad to see tommy in this vid
0 likesDamn you blowing up man
0 likesSaw the original on the recommended at my friend's house, they don't usually watch you
0 likesHello EmpLemon! I really liked your video about Leafy! So... can I pick up your brain about something? Which tools & websites did you use for data/info research? I am talking specifically about sub gain per months, old videos etc. I just want to make a video about one YTber. P.S. Sorry for bad English. inb4: use SocialBlade dumbass
0 likesMessage for the 50 thousand newcomers:
1 likeCOULD YOU UNSUBSCRIBE?
I love you my guy
0 likesPotty racers! Wow that takes me back.
0 likesThat truck game was my shite back in the day
0 likesI got a notification for this video 👍
0 likesSomething exploded on my TV when you posted this...coincidence? I think so...
0 likesYou should look into xandypants he is a Warframe YouTuber who has been demonstrably shadow banned
1 like2016 youtube was so much fucking better then the shit show that is 2018 youtube
1 likeCould you do a video on all the channels listed in the Towedog leak.
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*Towerdog
0 likesFuck yeaaaah this was an interesting video
0 likesi love tommy c
0 likesBetter get those flash games in before Adobe dies
0 likeswtf, 20 minute 1080p video for me is 2 GB!
0 likesman that video blew up
0 likesYou showing footage of potty racers makes me sad.
1 likeCant wait to watch this xd.
0 likesMore content plz
0 likesDo a YouTube Geographic video on Ray Sipe. Aka, what the fuck even is he?
0 likesI prefer longer videos.
0 likesEmpLemon is getting views again
0 likesPraise Montizon!
I have nocsteong feelings one way or the other
1 likei subbed to you from the leafy video lol
0 likesNow that I notice. Your voice sounds similar to FUNKe's
0 likesThe video isnt 51 mins its 60:30 just sayin...
0 likes1 hour emplemon video > 1 minute emplemon video
0 likeslet's not milk the cow please
0 likesEmp lemons summer bummer part 2 leafy addition
0 likes27 views, 189 likes. ❔❔❔
0 likesbut a follow-up video is awesome
The sequel?
0 likesTo be frank, you sound a little monotone even tired.
0 likesGet some sleep please, it's important.
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Or maybe it's just your voice.
0 likesI don't know you.
Yea they take gun videos down but leave videos where people torture animals and stuff them in my recommendations section. Seriously as an animal lover and rights supporter that boils my pea soup. You might not understand how it feel, but to me all those stupid hunting and fishing videos in my recommendations really upset me.
0 likesTiddle me D my pot of gold is gone
0 likesJust a little thing: Unlike searching for Leafy, if you search for GradeAUnderA, the first results are his channel and his videos.
0 likesAyy I'm new love the channel
0 likesanother stop on the downward spiral express
0 likesFavorite channel
0 likesThis Video Is Monitized
0 likesPlease do something about Grade, I really miss him...
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AnimationTV oh yeah yeah
0 likesWhy tf do people keep saying "oh yeah yeah" on my comments?!
0 likesBut Grade promised season 2!
0 likesSo when is finding dory coming out?
0 likesWELCOME???
1 likeI THOUGHT YOU TELL PEOPLE TO UNSUBSCRIBE????
I can’t say I’m a fan of the unscripted commentaries
0 likesFinally
0 likesHey PimpLemon, I'm not demanding you to do this, but I'm just suggested that you show your face more. Like if you agree :D
2 likesOnly 1 add on a 1 hour vid?!?!? HOW GENEROUS ARE YOU
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The Common Cold I think that’s the restricted ads kicking in
0 likesLeafy left to look for his chin
1 likeWe have to get rid of Justin Y.
0 likesBLOONS
0 likesI love that game
Ft.Tinfoil
0 likesI love you lul
0 likesBeen here since August 2017
0 likesIs that solid games?
0 likessuper nice.
0 likesTommy pickles
0 likesThis video isnt showing up much at all for me. Hmmn
2 likesInteresting.
1 likewill those 50k new subscribers
1 likeU Nsubscribe
Epic ganeplay
0 likesMask guy in back
0 likesSuperMarioLogan downward spiral when?
0 likesholy shit
0 likespeople liking this video even tho it’s only been out for 7 mins??? hello??? ruining the point of changing things guys...
0 likesWoo, early.
0 likesGood job tho
The beat go off?
0 likesHoly fuck wat?
0 likesmy NIGGA!
1 likedownward hour
0 likesWuss poppin Jimbo?
0 likesWhy do you say Pewdiepie like Pewdapie?
0 likesDo frying dory
0 likesis amp lemon actually funke
0 likesI subbed for EDITING 😡😡😡😡😡😡 Unsubscribe Unsubscribe Unsubscribe
0 likesdoes anyone remember Groudon457?
0 likesI heard Leafy died of Ligma...
1 likeReplies (1)
Deez nuts
0 likesfree smackies
0 likesGrade a under a was talking about being depressed. I think he is clinically depressed. Once you are depressed money doesnt matter to you. You stop making yt videos.
0 likesSorry no offense but Dolan Dark is the king of memes 👑
0 likesOr he is dead
0 likesTurkey Tom is fame obsessed
0 likesYou sound like leafy
0 likesleafy has friends?
0 likeshahahahahahaha
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Darth Panda you're probably right I respect that
0 likesmy channel is blacklisted to. not even kidding, one year ago I felt the change.
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eh imma try hard to get far? i dunno lol!
2 likesRiceGum his community just isnt as toxic as Leafys. Leafys community gives death treats and Rice his community hands out L's in Instagram comments.
0 likesCAN YOU UNSUBSCRIBE??!!??!!!?
0 likesEw tommy c
0 likeswHat gaME iS THis¿
0 likesI think all the 50000 new subs will eventually UNSUBSCRIBE
0 likesLeafyishere
0 likesMe like 50 long video
0 likesAnybody here from 2021?
1 likeOh my
0 likeslemon
0 likesHere before 50k
0 likeswhy are the simpsons green
0 likesYeah...
0 likesneat.
0 likes1080p :) ty
1 likeWhy tf do you sound like leafy
0 likesWow the clown shared my sentiments to the fucking last letter. Yes the faults are there and obviously the making videos on the children is very taboo tbh. But leafy is a bit too socially inept to realize the taboo that he was doing.
1 likeI also share the same perspective of the “high score” analogy of raking in views tbh
Edit: I wish that the majority of the “leafy hate train” was like tommy c right here. The hate that leafy got is unjust no matter how one looks at it. In fact, you could say that leafy was borderline cancelled as much as zaptie was (without the pedo stuff allegations).
emple mon
0 likesWho is to say that leafy and other channels were not locked out of their accounts? and forced to stop?
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Chris Stryker ikr
0 likesSurely they'd get on twitter or something and it'd blow up.
0 likeswhy video hour long no have attention span for hour
0 likesMontizon is hot
0 likesWhat annoys me is that like yesterday I saw a comment on some random video on youtube saying something like the following "this is the first 33 minute video I have ever watched, you must be a very good creator", like c'mon people, 33 minutes. That is truly disgusting to me. I watch several hours worth of people talking about some random youtuber who I never even watched myself, just because I find it interesting.
0 likesThese people on the internet are so used to the short few minute videos, and then they get mad when the videos are a bit longer, shut up. It is not the creator's fault you can not watch somewhat long ish videos.
Don't forget to Leaf a like...
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Darth Panda i r gui who gon t33ch u lesson
0 likesi kinda feek like pewdiepie is being supresed ny youtube, not killed but you know...
0 likesI'm pretty sure Leafy is a youtube cryptid at this point
0 likesEmp is leafy
0 likesDad
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0 likeshssss im still here brothers hissssssssssssssssssssssssss
0 likesMY NAMA JEFF
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0 likesGlad that annoying Justin Y isn't here *YET*.
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1 hour HOYL
0 likesglad to see you finally getting the recognition you deserve
1 likeGlad you're finally getting the recognition you deserve
0 likesKeep up the great work man!
2 likesOf course the video was a hit perfectly organized and set up perfectly it was a good production man
0 likesYour voicework on mumkey’s video was great, love your work emp.
0 likesHaven't watched the video yet, but I can already tell that it's going to be absolutely amazing~
0 likesI literally just came home from work to find my “Downward Spiral” t shirt arrived and minutes later this gets uploaded
0 likesI’m never gonna stop supporting the downward spiral
it was good video so you should be proud of your growth
0 likesA long video! This'll be great.
1 likeFirst fucking thing that went through my head
0 likes"whoa wtf an 1:00:00 long video? This'll be good."
press f to pay respects
0 likesrest in paradise leaf
Thanks for the lore 👌
0 likesCATEGORY ISN'T GAMING, THIS AIN'T LEAFY ENOUGH
2 likesI see EmpLemon, I like, i'm a simple man.
0 likesoh look, the sequel is here!, time for another million views
0 likesMake way for his imperial majesty, duke of the dank!
0 likesemplemon post notif
0 likeslooks at timestamp
1:00:30
“this is gonna be great”
Aww yea I was expecting this from Twitter
2 likesA long Emplemon video... my favorite
0 likesGood job for the recent sub boost my man
0 likesLoved that leafy video dude top notch shit
0 likes1 hour long downward spiral
2 likesIt’s true. People don’t have long attention spans. I wish there were more long vidieos these days. But it’s all that work and only three people watch till the end
0 likesJesus called and said "Leafy is with X and Pac in the afterlife"🙂
0 likesAt this point in time none of us have finished this video yet.
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GarbageKing what if I watch it in 2x speed?
0 likesLain Hikaru holy shit
0 likes“CAN YOU UNSUBSCRIBE”
0 likesthanks 50,000 people for subscribing
love these hour videos
0 likesDownward spiral is my favorite installment of Despacito
2 likesLeafy is awesome
0 likesNice video.
0 likesD I S C U S S I O N B O I S
1 likeTime for popcorn
0 likesSo was it Kino?
0 likesVery cool!
0 likesBack to back vids, neat
0 likesFasted time I've ever gotten to a video
1 likeAnyone heard about ninja dying from ligma? I really can’t believe it
0 likesLord rest Leafys soul.......................................................
0 likesDamn 🅱️ 1 hour vid
0 likesA video promoting Israel is in my recommendation for some reason
0 likesAh damn. 50k (most likely) normies coming in...
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Namiix _13 nah, they probably wouldn't appreciate this channel that much if they were, I think we're fine
0 likesNamiix _13 also. Emp won't change his content to conform to normies (if they are)
0 likesSUBMIT TO MONTIZON!
0 likes내 질을 먹어라
1 likeFantastic
1 likeEmplemon is best lemon
1 likeRIP LEAFY...
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This comment aged bad
0 likesThe Rise,
0 likes,Fall
& Decay of
Stupid Mario BrothersMumkey JonesEmperor LemonLeafyishereLeafy was selling his snapchat
1 likeI LOVE U
0 likesWhats the green video playing in the background
0 likesL E M O N
0 likesLeafy tree has chop down
0 likes#BringBackLeafy
0 likesHello my emp
0 likesFried dory?
1 likeFlash is good
2 likesIM HERE AND IM EARLY
0 likesleefy is a deer
0 likesAHHH
1 likefuck sake why is it an hour i wanna go to bed
0 likesI called it
0 likesDay 294 of the never ending downward spiral.
0 likesmeme
0 likesEarly squad. Heart this for 1 car slap.
0 likesOwO new video
0 likesDad?
0 likesYes
0 likesJeez 1 hour
0 likesGee I'm early
0 likesnice
0 likesOh no
1 likeLess than 30 views lmao....
0 likesits just him trying to milk his last video
1 likeI heard leafy joined Isis
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That moment when you’re judging walking home from school, a beautiful day and you get kidnapped by isis
0 likesLolol gay menSss XD
0 likesHoho yes
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0 likesyes I'm early
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0 likesNeat.
1 likeWhy do you talk like you're trying really hard to not stutter
0 likesgamers
0 likesDEEZ NUTS
0 likesRicegum is not attractive
0 likesWow i am so happy to here he is ok i always knew he wasn't a bad guy that people portay him as he is just a good guy i know he is i mean i may have never talked to him but he deserves better
0 likesWho is Montizon?
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Kevin Siungdung He demonitizes the innocent and produces Youtube Red shows for the guilty. Not even the children shall be spared from the warm glowing of his warming glow.
0 likesim a new subscirbre!111
0 likesu didnt welcum me .c
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yaayyy
0 likesGuys leafy just made a new vid
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whoopsala no he don't
0 likeswhoopsala ???
0 likesLeafyIsHere is the Tupac Shakur of YouTube.
0 likesWhat are the leafy clones
0 likes1 hr?
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Ill stay
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0 likesHisssss
0 likesthis video would be 20-25 minutes shorter if you didnt randomly pause for .3 seconds in the middle of sentences
0 likeswhat the fuck
0 likespee pee poo poo
0 likesAy nice
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0 likeshi dad
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0 likes27 veiws, 110 likes, 68 comments
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29 views, 238 likes, 138 comments.
2 likesGo drunk YouTube, you're home.
Welcome to Youtube.
0 likesDo more youtube poop video
0 likesk then
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0 likesleafy died of ligma
0 likesLeafy died of ligma
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trumps wall f rip ninja
0 likesKavos is a leafy clone but Pyrocynincal isn't
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Darth Panda he is. Look at sub growth. The way they act. The way they'll die
0 likesAnd the people he knows
0 likesLeafy vs Zucc anyone ?
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I would be interested.
0 likesIts not hard tho. Everyone could have been leafy. He is boring and unfunny just like 99% of every other youtuber but he made content everyone could have made. We normal people just have a life and a real job
1 likeNop
0 likesThis game is so boring
0 likesIt is really funny.
2 likesHere in Spain we have one trending hated youtuber called "Dalas Review". He has been called (from very big youtubers) for a lot of bad things that he hasn't done like rape or being abusive with her ex-girlfriends and he is defending himself doing videos constantly.
It is true that he's kind of egocentric and a lot of times he lets his anger out and starts insulting those who accuse him and that makes a bad image of himself.
But that's all, I just wanted to say that it is interesting seeing that this events happen all around Youtube.
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Rollye all are of those things about him true?
0 likesNope... Not even one thing.
0 likesRollye wow
0 likesHe also went to trial multiple times for this accusations and he was proven innocent in all cases.
0 likesRollye holy fuck,so people hate him based on lies?
0 likesYes, I'm not interested in him and I think that he is quite pretentious, but he doesn't deserve at all what everyone is saying about him.
0 likesRollye absolutely true,have a great day/night
0 likesYou too!
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0 likesYay 300th like
0 likesThe downward spiral is over. He is not telling us to unsubscribe.
0 likesI don’t want emplemon to pin my comment butt
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Was that funny enough?
0 likesNo
0 likesWow, don’t be like that
0 likesNo you don’t be like that
0 likesWhat game is that
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First 3 are Truck Mania, Bloons and Potty Racers
0 likesi forgot that i made this comment but thx
0 likesWhere's Justin. Y
0 likesKEEMSTAR SAID UR VIDEO WAS FAKE
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da boi
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0 likesAh hindsight
0 likesHello!
0 likesFinal Fantasy 9 is a great game.
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Cake# 10 sucks, dude
0 likesCake# with a pen or pencil
0 likesFinal Fantasy Tactics > all other ff
0 likesKaka-Carrot Cake Nah. That game is boring
0 likesGTA 4 is not deep Metal Gear Solid 3 is deep thats the first ff i played. It was very good.
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I am Lonely
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Yeey
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0 likesHi
0 likesHi
0 likesNo u
0 likesThis sucks honest
0 likesEeeeeeeeeeeee
0 likesAh Hinds
0 likesLeafy alive yay
0 likesEMPLEMON is the only person who can be interesting for more than 1h. GUYS CALL CNN!!!
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Tetso no he will be smeared by the media and deplatformed somehow
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0 likes538 comment
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0 likesNo offense, but the background makes me want to puke. And the music is bleh.
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Imagine not liking Moatzart
0 likesKyoukek I do, but i'd rather listen on high quality audio file or to soemone who has a intellectual voice. Get what I mean?
0 likesAh man, I know what you mean. Though I mean, it's not like Emp is playing composers like Liszt or Scriabin but instead the most popular songs from the big bois. I must say that I never really liked Emperor Lemon's videos, any of them really, until these last two, and certainly not his Youtube Poops which will always be lower-tier entertainment, though they've undeniably helped him in his editing. In this respect this is one of the few channel's that do show promise on this "overly-saturated" Youtube after the disastrous failure of BobbyBurns, whom at one point I genuinely believed was a true innovator
0 likesI think I skipped the Bobby Burns failure. Care to enlighten me?
0 likesLol not really, but the topic interests me enough. Maybe he'll one day even appear on this channel, who is definitely a match to handle such a complex channel like that. Much like Emp who has modified his content to remain relevant, Bobby has done so 6 times, each one labeled by him to Bobby 2.0, 3.0, etc. The first of these were like movie reviews, then moving to satire, sketch comedy, then a sort of different style of "Youtube Geographic" in his Exploring the Internet series. His harsh criticism of Shane Dawson though brought him into direct contact with the famed Youtuber, which many believed was going out of relevancy, to a huge surge in popularity to both, culminating in Shane buying Bobby a Jeep and helping him move to LA. Then Bobby 5.0 became essentially a vapid vlog channel after the genuine artistic endeavors of Bobby 4.0. Of course they're no Vivre sa Vie or 8 1/2 as far as "art" goes, but I thought it was quite phenomenal for Youtube. Now just take a look at his recent videos, his supposed 6.0 ones, and tell me they're not trash.
1 likeI recommend you watch his video Exploring The Internet: An Audience For Anything, which is a genuinely moving sketch, and you'd be surprised at Bobby's filming, acting, and editing ability, obviously garnered from his time as a Youtube film critic. And still, look how young he still is! Imo it's the culminating of a Youtube channel and it's all been downhill from after 4.0 and many of his fans think so as well
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dang it it was 9th
0 likeslol close nice
0 likesThis video is boooooring the other one was much better
0 likesBruh
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1 likeI heard leafy died from ligma today.
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Darth Panda rip leafy lol
0 likesDarth Panda I know I’m not
0 likesLiterally skip the first 10 minutes of the video. He's just repeating himself for that sweet sweet revenue.
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what
0 likesYour attention span is that LOW!
7 likeshe does not even get ad revenue. wowwwww
4 likesJeanson 3 yes, it is that low. I don't want to hear the same thing literally being repeated over and over about how Leafy compared to his own channel and how YouTube did all of this when that's half of a game of Overwatch. i'm gonna leave it at that because people in the youtube comments section usually like to fight over stupid stuff
0 likesI think you're suffering from double-downward spiral.
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