guys youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@Alessio Muccio the first time was when YouTube was announcing they’d probably take away the dislike button or something like that. This was a few months ago.
@Nikoloz Gilles I am one of those right wingers, but honestly, your qualifier "[...] right wingers (and I'm not talking about Ronaldo)" was one of the funniest things I've seen all day, I don't know if you just came up with it or I just haven't read that one before. You got a genuine laugh out of me, not just the usual sharp "hnh" through the nose, so thank you for that. You go ahead and have yourself an awesome day you rapscallion!
@P4rd0n3d Ph03n1x I was a YTP virgin until I watched a couple of your videos. Immediately intriguing because I've never seen anything so accurately depict a psychedelic experience. David Lynch - Naked Lunch, here we come! Strange how we can tap into memories with such precision, with just the right sounds, smells, or visuals.
@Raum 2901 youtube after watching: Ohho you actually think this is a democracy and we would care for your thoughts. That's so cute. [Immediately shadowbans emplemon]
sigh... youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
Watching Matt Koval's announcement about the removal of dislikes, I thought something was off. The spoken words did not match the eyes. The video reminded me of an interview Admiral Jeremiah Denton gave in 1966. I have never seen a less enthusiastic, more reluctant announcement of something that is supposed to be great.
Calling the removal of dislikes a good thing for creators cannot be done without conflict by someone holding the title of "YouTube's Creator Liaison". We know this because there exists not a single YouTube Creator who thinks removing dislikes is a good idea -- for YouTube or for Creators.
Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed. Instead, there will be references to various studies. Studies that apparently contradict the common sense of every YouTuber.
The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can't be. In fact, most of it is not good. And that's OK. The idea was never that all content is good. The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.
The process works, and there's a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds. The process breaks when the platform interferes with it. Then, the platform invariably declines. Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre? Because nothing can be great if nothing is bad.
In business, there's only one thing more important than "Make it better". And that's "Don't fuck it up".
"that's a step closer to Twitter" At this point basically EVERY big social media site has become interchangeable versions of each other. The diversity of websites in the old days is gone, now everything is just streamlined into becoming the same.
was just thinking about this, from snapchat and the 'story' origins, to the 'shorts' that every platform now does..these sites are pretty much all interchangable instead of being the unique platforms they once were. you could theoretically scroll your reddit feed, find a topic that includes some outrageous facebook/instagram post, tweet about it and add more engagement to the discussion, watch it blow up and make it's way into the youtube commentator realm and enjoy the fallout of the memes on 4chan at one point lol..
guys hear me out. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@Fries same UI design, minimalist, basic, all have the dark and light features, messaging feature, stories, accounts, etc. some are different but only by a bit, the days where completely different social media sites were is now replaced with a system that's addictive, easily navigable, profitable and exploitative
@Fries Basically, each website takes and copy features from other websites that they can take without completely changing the use of their website. Like Shorts on YouTube, which are similar to videos on Instagram, Tiktok, etc.
@popopop984 yeah they all copy everyone else and not have their own creativity cause why do that when you can make profit from doing whatever everyone else is doing
@Safwaan The only possible difference I see between these social media sites is some of the interests and tendencies of the people who use them more frequently may vary (ex: People who use Twitter more often may have shorter posts than some).
But functionally speaking, I see your arguments for them being more interchangeable.
I was doing research for a project, and I was having to delve into old websites from 2005 on archive. God you aren't wrong. Doing that research made me realize how much it changed and how much I miss how diverse the old sites used to be.
@Fries money and cause it's easiest to use, same for nearly everything like bananas, chocolate, etc. it's all 1 type to fit our needs and while it is efficient, it does get boring and repetitive after a while
@bareky As much as dependent on one another as a collective mass oligopoly, these sites are dependent on there being no material competition that offers anything they don’t (that would explain functional uniformity across the platforms).
If a competitor entered the market that offered features that you don’t see on mainstream social media websites today, then that site would stand out, and would at the very least, appeal to a disenfranchised audience who would like to try something new.
When everyone doing anything are doing it just for money, this happens. People don't make sites and apps out of spare time, a sense of adventure, or for the sole reason of a "cool idea," anymore. We've worked the grind for money into every aspect of society now.
Bro that bs reason YouTube gave is just that, BS. They were probably told to do this by a government entity or corporation. Yeah some people were whining but comments (which aren’t removed) are way worse than a like-to-dislike ratio.
YouTube 2018: Oh no, people are voluntarily choosing to watch YouTubers with a variety of perspectives, let's remove the ones we don't like! YouTube 2019: Oh no, people are voluntarily choosing to watch alternative new sources, let's astroturf legacy news media! YouTube 2021: Oh no, people are expressing their dissent of our design choices through the dislike button, we have to remove it! The downward spiral never ends.
yea i can't understand why youtube would strip away everything that makes their site great. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
Oh this is purely to help put slimey companies, and if you didnt want to deal with criticism before the new update, you can just turn off comments and likes and dislikes
I prefer like/dislike since it implicitly ask for opinion, not fact. Youtube can use that to tune down the recommendation for me, not for everyone. I can do this to any video
When asked for rate, it sound like I have to be expert in the area.
And here we are, YET AGAIN EmpLemon knowing his shit. Honestly, every so often I get concerned about YouTube in the future making restrictions on who can even upload or shit like that, would tank them but their decisions are that stupid and who knows what will be restricted on the Net a decade from now. Can’t you imagine a timeline where corporations somehow use cyber attacks or viruses as an excuse to create restrictions on who can even upload files to larger sites on the internet or to weaponise them against smaller sites like they “aren’t trustworthy” or shit?
That seems like exactly what its gonna be. And its all out of our Control At this point. If you told someone in 2010 how bad it would be now? They wouldnt believe you, and its only gonna get worse and worse. The only way to win this game, Is to not play.
Same In a Discord server I'm in I pointed my friends to this video in response to the official Youtube one. With an additional recommendation saying: "Take it from a guy with alot more respect and credibility on this website. He knows what he's up to. Absolute grade-A youtuber.
They have now removed the dislike count, here's what I've observed. As everyone predicted, the comments are more aggressive. A flood of angry comments is much more noticeable than a single number. In their attempts to silence criticism, they made it more obvious.
Also, every largely disliked video will have a bunch of "use me as a dislike button" comments, so the change doesn't even do its fucking job.
I’d argue that YouTube has its uses (in particular, perhaps accidentally, it’s become a very good media archive in my opinion).
But with that being said, I do see why people who look at the site from the perspective of original content prefer the site in the 2000’s and earlier teens to the site today.
There are many issues today (censorship, demonetization, and in my opinion most notably the impact of the algorithm) that don’t seem as bad even eight years ago.
The main argument saying a dislike bar can lead to a bad performance of the video is a bullshit argument. Imo, its the whole point. The audience should decide what is good content, not the website. It's literally killing free speech. Dislike mobs are bad they say, but a company like YouTube deciding to tamper with the dislike bar is the exact same thing. It forcefully changes the general narrative. They do it to generate a better appeal for large investors in their business.
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Star maker 752021-11-11 18:07:25 (edited 2021-11-11 18:08:22 )
While yes, dislike mobs are definitely a problem, however removing the dislikes is Definitely not the solution.
YouTube is doing the equivalent of teacher of punishing everyone in the class because of the few bad student.
The problem with saying you can leave a negative comment so we don't need dislikes, is that writing a comment takes more time and effort so people won't bother in many cases. Also, leaving a comment removes anonymity, and opens yourself up to being attacked by other commenters.
I feel like YouTube is trying to become TikTok. The addition of shorts is obvious, and this is also reminiscent of TikTok because they don’t have likes either.
@Nqtural Already did but a lack enough reason right now since most content creators are here. Honestly the only way another website could rival YouTube is if many big users like Pewdiepie or Mr Beast give incentives to people to go there like money or something.
bruh youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@𝐄𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐜 𝐌𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐃𝐨𝐯𝐞 that's right we can't just give up. Just because we can't see the dislike count doesn't mean we can't find another way express disapproval as a community
@Nikoloz Gilles Not just cov-related videos. Just about every White House or corporate Youtube video and many AAA trailers (video game or film) or commercials that spit in the face of their target demographic. Not to mention other regimes in other countries. All of these wealthy and powerful groups have a vested interest in getting rid of the appearance of dissent.
@Tuong Tăng posting a video to say you dislike something just feeds further into YouTube's pockets. Also, not everyone knows how to edit, record in proper locations, and were just gonna get a flood of low quality videos doing nothing but complaining about other videos, which is a bad look.
@Jsonic [GD] was just about to say that. next thing gone will be the comments. amazon did it when they purchased imdb, the forums at imdb were hella fun back in the day and served as a little fangroup for every tv show/movie/actor etc. and they were just wiped for the internet by bezos. same thing might happen to youtube, so what then?
@KillTrump 666 bro I hate trump too but removing dislikes is bad for everyone. It’s good to give users a heads up on what the consensus is on a video and it also keeps the youtuber’s ego in check
"disabling likes/dislikes is depriving your audience of an expressive outlet" This is exactly how I felt when I came across a video that did this or disabled comments. It feels neutering and manipulative.
Dislikes are actaully good some people sometimes upload videos, without listening to the dislikes, listening to the dislikes is beneficial, you Can improve your content and put alot of effort and change from a bad content creator to a good one, dislikes are beneficial but we got a backup and it's the comments,
goddammit. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@LEGOMAN 2 Creators worth watching don't want it changed, and I'm not sure if this is true but I've heard positive or negative feedback increases engagement and views.
@Nikoloz Gilles I'm impressed at the level of dedication online right wingers have to ratio those videos. All the news videos I've seen talking about kids getting vaccinated have single digit ratings. If the left had that level of mobilization they would never lose another election.
@Mang Pike Hence The only reason big creators have to openly dislike this change would be to seem relatable and similar to the viewers, as if they're one of us. That would increase their popularity among the masses.
However, if they actually get close to making YouTube revert their decision the giant channels will stop ranting and raving about the removal of the dislike button because if YouTube did pull out that would negatively impact the popular creators in the long term.
YouTube removing dislikes is a hot topic that the masses loathe, so it would make sense for a lot of content creators to be cashing in on the hate train without actually holding the views and ideas of the masses.
Keep in mind that this is mostly speculation since I do not own a massive channel and thus do not know the mindsets of the people who do own such channels.
The fears in this video have now become realized... I never actually thought that YouTube would follow through with it though. I mean, they've made all kinds of terrible decisions in the past. But this level of censorship is an entirely new level of unforgivable
@Sparky1970 A dislike isn't always criticism though, a lot of the time it's just people being negative assholes or having a grudge against the creator. Which is why literally every video on YouTube that has over a certain number of views has dislikes, no matter how objectively good the video is. It's annoying when someone spends days, weeks, months working on something then some mouth breather in a basement who has never made anything in their life just smashes the dislike button. It's just spreading unnecessary negativity.
@asher ferrara I don’t care about dislikes it just makes me annoyed because there’s no information behind the dislike if you don’t like something then you have to explain why if you don’t want a contact creator to be bad.
@jroma Except for the fact that's mostly not true. Mass Disliking has been most often used against big corporations or on a video with a bad take. Removing Dislikes isn't going to stop any hate, people will just find other outlets to put that hate somewhere else.
@jroma That's just how people are. If a group of people like something, there will always be that one that hates on it purely for the sake of hating. You can't change that no matter what. It's better to not generalize and realize things for what they are. Removing dislikes is not going to make anything better. An example would be any DIY video that achieves nothing, better to see the dislikes to know that you're wasting your time and move on to a better video that's better suited to help with what you're trying to achieve.
@Gimmysharp It was them the entire time! They always have been ruining shit since the last 2 decades! Never forget how they terminated SuperPoke Pets, it was horrible! Bring it back, Make The Internet Great Again! ✊😾
Despite our best efforts. Despite every soldier we lost. Despite all the friends and foes we lost. We still couldn't do it. We couldn't stop them. YouTube removed dislikes. Small Youtubers were used as a cover up.
Dislikes have always been a red flag to me. It doesn't necessarily influence my thoughts on a video, but it gives me warning signs to look out for. If there are 20% dislikes, I can still generally trust a video, but I will look to the comments to see why people are disliking. It's usually minor grievances or some factual thing that was wrong, etc. 50% dislikes is an instant red flag, and if I don't see obvious brigading in the comments (which is pretty rare), I'll assume the video is just incredibly controversial or incredibly wrong, and watch out for those pitfalls through the video.
If the likes/dislikes are hidden? The creator is dishonest. It's as simple as that.
I cannot believe they went through with this. It might seem trivial for "bad" content in vlogs or whatever YouTube thinks is the only content on their platform. But I can say with confidence dislikes will have saved people's lives in the car modding community, and saved millions of dollars in bad mistakes for PC building and similar.
As a sort of celebration for predicting the future and to commemorate what may be the last time we can express ourselves freely, I find its only fitting that I place a dislike on this video.
This video is very relevant right now. I actually can't believe they've been toying with this idea for so long, and that they're seemingly finally going to go through with it. This is true YouTube armageddon
Well, they just released the video confirming they WILL remove the dislike counter. YouTube is going to be a significantly larger cesspool than it already is. Thanks YouTube.
I like how EmpLemon tore apart Dan Olson’s entire argument by pointing out that 4chan, the embodiment of everything that man and his kind hates, doesn’t have a dislike button.
The worst part is that Youtube asked the community for feedback, and literally everyone was against the idea, and yet, YT removed them.
Hell, even big channels (ie. Matpat, Markiplier, SOG, Linus Tech Tips, etc.) weren't happy about it. Matpat even told Susan Wojcicki (the current CEO of YT) to bring back dislikes, but she denied it.
YT is disconnected from the audience, it's baffling
Thanks to the removal of dislikes, I can't tell if that 83k likes on a 900k view video means you struck a chord or your opinion is so conroversial that 800k people unanimously hated it
I love the hypocrisy of people not agreeing and wanting removal of dislikes but they still go ahead and use the dislike button on your video. They're only proving that dislikes are important.
imagine if someone far in the future went back and saw youtube rewind 2018, and would thought it was well recieved because they saw 3M likes without realising the 17M dislikes
edit: also i know you might not see this but THANK YOU SO MUCH for putting the music list in the description, all youtubers should do that
Ladies and gentlemen, we are here to mourn the loss of dislikes. Please pour one out for our downward-pointing thumby bois as we lower them into the downward spiral.
@trollbreeder theres an easy test to see that they dont do anything step 1) press like and see the number increase by 1 step 2) press the dislike button and watch nothing happen boom, test complete. Now you can also preach to others about how shit youtube is, while nobody really decides to do much about it.
Also people need to stop thinking about switching sites, because nobody will be able to just make a new site since they'd need some absolutely massive servers and some other crazy shit. We need to choose a good team of developers and crowdfund the new website, since there's no way they'll be able to fund it themselves.
As an act of protest, I will dislike every video I watch on Youtube, even if it's a video I actually enjoyed, as a means to trash the unreliable rating system Youtube has created, this may result in something only if we the community as a whole do this together.
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Mr. Skeltal2021-11-11 20:18:01 (edited 2021-11-11 20:22:47 )
“And what happened, then? Well, on YouTube they say – that the downward spiral grew three sizes that day. And then the true meaning of dislikes came true, and YouTube felt the backlash of 10,000 dislike mobs plus two."
I agree. TTS reddit videos are lazy. They don't even ask their own questions, they take already established r/askreddit threads and just put them in a boring text to speech format
Reddit TTS videos are disgustingly successful for how low-effort the production is. I've blacklisted all of those channels from my recommended feed and I'm a happier person because of it.
The problem there is the people abusing the button.
There's a very recent video (not even mine) that has 77 dislikes and like 10 likes because some idiot on Reddit asked people to dislike the video, literally.
I say, keep the dislike button, but prevent people from abusing it on Youtube jeez.
@Cybernik The Robot It's impossible to determine if a dislike is done by a "mob" or out of "real reasons". ESPECIALLY since machines are currently operating most things on YouTube.
If they dare take it out, it will literally be a huge hit to their whole operation.
Many new content can easily be trash, and scams (as there are already) but In massive scale. And the algorithm won't help that, if anything it might boost amd encourage it. Who knows.
@nch20045 I started to see this reedit videos because works for me like highlights, comments that I would not see without them. but I started to became anoyed with them because the cringe clickbaits thumbs and they not show interesting replies if at least they linked the post
please do a follow up. I don't think there truly is anything ore important in modern free speech than the dislike button on the largest and most influential internet platform
Or get atleast one person to say dislike or any other filtered dislike and get people to like it so it will accurately show how much people disliked a video
Well its already gotten that shit I mean on mobile you have the option to press a button on reconmeded videos and put im not imterested in this video nice bloons music btw
If people filter out the word dislike: look up zero width non joiner and coppy and paste it somewhere into the word (it's a character that doesn't have any visual presence) If YouTube disables comments: the site will quickly become worse than 4vhan as there will be litterialy no way for people to get checked and YouTube will reverse it after loosing a significant amount of people
@skrubbed this is an amazing idea. If you don't mind, may I add it to list of things I have to do when certain things happen to make sure the dislike doesn't die?
Saying “comments is a better way of communicating to a creator” is true, until you reach someone with millions of subscribers.
Edit: This comment is a perfect example, the chance of emplemon reading this comment is 1/1000000. I would need 100+ more likes just for a chance of a big YouTuber to read my comment, and basically no big YouTuber will check the comment past the first 3 minutes so your fucking screwed.
Exactly, i only found this comment because i was scrolling this comment section because of the recent news.
Even if its a YouTuber that doesnt have millions of subscribers, theres no guarantee that the youtuber will read the comments. They are almost 100% more likely to see the like to dislike ratio because its one of the first things you see on a video.
I apologize for the sheer hubris that went into this post, it took like an hour to write this fucking novel.
Seeing every kind of media get feedback and commentary was what gave this website its identity, and dislikes were a vital part of that. This used to be one of the few major websites where you could see it happening in a large-scale, user-friendly way. YouTube denying that to its users is one of the most painstaking moves I've ever seen the website make. I knew that the management was terrible, and that it was eventually going to get worse, but I was hoping it would take a few more years for something like this to happen. Things on the website were degrading, and I didn't want to be the person who just let it happen while I get progressively sadder.
Sometime before the counter was removed, I resolved that I would quit going to YouTube for a month, and look around other websites to see if there was anything else worthwhile. I mostly hovered around Newgrounds, and found that you can easily get interesting material, but couldn't seem to find anywhere that had a review/commentary scene that could work as a substitute to YouTube. I was testing myself and learning a lot about content creation in the process, but was still pessimistic about finding a website that could really compare for entertainment. Still, I stuck to the plan and waited out the month.
The website was pretty unceremonious when I came back. It was upset, because YouTube is always upset, but it wasn't up in arms or anything. The complaints about the dislike removal had pretty much died out, channels were producing as if nothing had changed, and most people I was subscribed to hadn't even uploaded since I left. The website barely changed, and suddenly my decision to leave felt a lot more justified. I want this place to recognize when it needs to change.
Relying on the same place for content is easy, and learning the environment of a different website is way harder to manage. Plenty of people never consider going anywhere else purely for that, even if that means the place has to suffer for it. I had never regularly went to any other platform before this point. But YouTube's greatness can definitely exist somewhere else. Finding alternatives for music and entertainment has made me more confident in what I choose to watch, and even if people can't completely transition to somewhere else, I believe that breaking that reliance is helpful.
Every time that this website's users prevent it from getting worse, it takes a fucking historical achievement. I wish it weren't so complicated to fix this website where it sorely needs it, but you're one of the users I trust to get upset and actually fix things. That's why I first came here once the break was over.
Keep up the good work, Emp. I'd like to hear some complaints. And if I don't, I'll be around to pick up the slack.
"When you choose to disable ratings on a video, you are deliberately depriving your audience of one of their expressive outlets, and you are consequently degrading their experience as a viewer." Exactly. Exactly this. Having no voice and feeling weak, powerless and invalidated
Well, unfortunately YouTube didn’t see this video because they are too sensitive to feedback and have some double standards that are really trying to protect their own ass and not everybody else’s
I remember when YouTube wasn't a place where adults would act like emotionally immature children. I grew up with angry reviewers, ranters, and Retsupurae. The uncompromisingly harsh criticism made everything better and more watchable/playable. If unpopular creators think this will improve their situation, it won't.
bro youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@Nikoloz Gilles yeah, that's the reason I never go to the comment sections of those videos They be acting like preventing the spread of a virus should be a human rights violation.
This is a terrible decision for a variety of reasons.
1. Dislikes are a great way to signal quality or lack thereof, so if you are looking for a good tutorial or instruction video where the speaker gives clear and helpful instructions, likes and dislikes allow you to easily sort through videos relating to what you are trying to find. Removing dislikes makes this process much more difficult and time consuming.
2. Apart from the inconvenience (which is honestly enormous when you consider that billions of people use the site for such purposes every single day), it also means that extremists who only care about promoting their ideology will be given an even bigger advantage over moderates now as, unlike those actually taking the time to verify the quality of the video, they will be able to like and comment on videos that appear to support their stance at a far faster rate ensuring that partisan and extreme content which studies have already shown increase both positive and negative engagement (the only negative form of engagement after this policy is implemented being comments which also boost the amount of views a video gets as the number of comments is one of the statistics YouTubes systems take into account when figuring out which videos to promote) becomes far more popular and will contribute to increased political polarization and the acceleration of the political binary in nations where YouTube is used to any significant extent.
3. The fact that a content creator can delete comments they don't like means that those who don't have the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction now lose not only the ability to look at the like / dislike bar and see if something fishy is going on but now their ability to find a comment which debunks the lies within the video are also far more difficult (even impossible if the content creator is determined enough) to find. This will lead to the spread of disinformation and clickbait and ultimately make it so that provocative content is given even more of an advantage over actual quality content in terms of what gets consumed.
4. Apart from the issues which are created by this decision, it also doesn't fix anything as the content creator would still be able to see the amount of dislikes if they go to look at their statistics and they can already turn off dislikes and comments as of now.
11/29/21: On December 13th, the Google API will be removing the dislikes property, which will mark the final day of dislikes on Youtube without third party software. We have 2 weeks left, guys. I'm ready to embrace the new era of Clickbait Supreme Mega Ultra 2.0 Plus and scammers. sigh
Positivity can be toxic if it's not checked. Without the negatives, the positives become meaningless and allow what we hate to prosper with no problems.
Social media without dislikes is like being surrounded by the Stepford Wives. Everyone smiling all the time, nothing but positivity, but it's all hollow. The toxicity is worse than ever before, it's just hidden beneath the surface where it will fester. Remember Rule of Acquisition #48: the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
And here we are yet again, 7 months later! Funny how that works. Yeah... This is going to backfire immensely, because now people have to comment their dislike or hate towards the video in order to express it.
Congratulations Susan, you have officially removed our only way of communication and rebellion. THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION WILL STILL COME. LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S LIBERATION OF YOUTUBE.
nah youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
Can they please just stop making this site cater to more and more emotionally fragile paper people. You already can't see comments where people swear, now we can't see dislikes FFS!
I'm only 1 min in, but I'm still willing to say the only people advocating for removing dislikes are those making shitty content or outright lying. Dislikes will still hit the algorithm, people will still go and dislike mob what they disagree with, but the ones saying "remove it" are the ones that don't want to make it obvious you are watching bad content.
Its a shame how a simple video from 2 years ago fell on the deaf ears of a corporation. They claimed to "hear us out" but still went forward with this poor decision.
It wasn't the dislikes alone though?? It was mainly all the redesigns and talking about the design over on twitter and youtube itself that showed the design was the problem. Without all that stuff the dislikes could've meant literally anything to the director.
Mega Fan Studios There's a conspiracy that the Sonic redesign might not have actually been a result of backlash, but more a planned marketing strategy to get people emotionally invested into the film. I mean, from redesigning every VFX shot about a CG character in a film about themselves in 6 months to the near immediate response since the trailer, I'd say just stand back a little and see what happens with it in a few months.
@CrystaltheCool Ya but the Dislikes was the trigger that got the topic started once people see O wow this Sonic Trailer has alot of Dislikes let's talk about this or fix this then won't dislikes and comments have pushed the ball to the next court sort of speak?
Yeah or tutorials, whenever I have a problem I don't want to waste time on a fix that will not work. Heavy dislikes it's a waste of time, 50/50 it's a coin flip so it might work for me.
Starting a YouTube channel is a massive investment of one's life and livelihood, and as one of those kids who's wanted to become a YouTuber ever since the Minecraft days of 2012, the removal dislikes makes developing an audience all the more impossible.
"They all begin the same way with youtube teasing it and treating it like a non-committal, optional thing. And then it becomes default for the whole site."
i hate this bruh, i didn't even want this. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
@Nikoloz Gilles I myself am pretty left wing and really hate the removal of dislikes. Literally nobody likes it except corporations and politicians (on both sides, and I suspect the next time a republican is in office the dislike counter won't magically return, but at the same time, I think they waited for Biden because it would give them more favor then)
@Lazys The dank engineer [BACK] As a gay man myself, I'd say both wings are 100% guilty in how their politics are mostly filled with the whiniest people to have ever existed(except for Nikocado Avocado).
Thanks to Emp we learn a lot of things that not everyone knows or even understands. It gives you a good way of understanding the more you watch his content. Living in Perfection and Ignoring the negative or even isolating negativity completly is not a good idea. Literally Balance my dude,whitout it life would not be so good.
I watch this video a couple of months ago and i said to my self, it would be crazy if they remove the dislike button, luckily the aren't going to do that, and here we are now
@The Trashman Yee the precedent exists for Youtube to listen if the outrage is big enough. Also, in calling their proposed change an "experiment" rather than flat out declaring that it's set in stone implies Youtube is somehwat open to not implementing it. But, with all the dislikes their channel gets Youtube definitely wants to get rid of dislikes to try and sweep their criticism under the rug. Hopefully the backlash for even proposing this change is enough to get them to back off for a while.
@TFrills Hey, wanna know something funny? This video is a year old. There's literally nothing saying YouTube is trying to protect Biden from criticism.
They're trying to protect themselves from criticism because they constantly shove stuff like Jimmy Kimmel down people's throats.
@Aria Jacobs They did it after he was elected though, the fact the idea only really went through after over a year of being thrown around, possibly more. The fact that it was only after a liberal was elected was suspicious, and especially with youtube, while not necessarily directly influencing the movements of the left, definitely has left leanings. They have the motivation to do it. Honestly I don't even believe they did since it's kind of illogical just by common sense, but it's still fairly interesting to think about it. I mainly just wanted to point out the possibility more, with actual evidence, even if it isn't much.
@Tubby I dont think so, they dont care about backlash, youtube has become but a tool to push whatever they want, too many normies that could potentially change their viewd if they continue to be exposed
3:44 they claim there is still a comment section, but i am here to tell you, that's gaslighting. the comment section is heavily monitored and half the comments you post are invisible to others. it's mostly the negative comments that get roasted. that's if the comment section is even enabled. they will eventually rid the site of a like button, as their videos won't get enough likes compared to videos they would rather the site didn't host. youtube is on a spiral, and it won't be long before a real competitor emerges and strikes the final blow. then youtube can be the corporate tv network it wants to be.
In protest of the garbage decision to remove dislikes, I am not going to use this platform at all until dislikes come back. I’m dead serious, I have other things and hobbies to do, and movies to watch that I haven’t. I will see you all when dislikes come back, hopefully…
@Mercury ikr like dude, i remember when comments with more dislikes than likes still displayed with a red number next to them. And then one day it just was no more. Eck.
@Mercury No kidding lad. Dislikes show how bad some videos really are, like Gametheorys' Tf2 vs Overwatch video, or really any given video from Youtube themselves. Banning dislikes is tantamount to censorship of saying what we do and don't like. Eventually, yeah, even comments will be policed. Maybe not wiped out, but they will be heavily enforced. Likely with another terrifyingly awful bot.
daniel holbrook2022-04-29 20:42:31 (edited 2022-04-29 20:49:17 )
i didn't let dislikes influence my viewing unless they were drastically high, and i doubt a lot of other people did either. even ~20% dislikes i could see as a video being 'controversial' rather than 'bad.' if a video in this territory seemed alright aside from its like ratio, i wouldn't be deterred- if anything, it'd draw my interest in even further. not being able to see videos with really high dislikes has just made clickbait, deception and misinformation even easier. a lot of the time if i'm unsure about a video just based on the thumbnail/title i'll open a private window so that the youtube algo won't feed me more of it if it ends up being slop. i'm really careful with the algorithm. dropping a dislike on a video i actually dislike in such a way isn't worth exposing my account to it in the first place.
15 second unskippable ads about how vaping is a fucking sin against all that breathes, or about a shit game on the AppStore that the “dev” spent 14 minutes on with assets from deviantart should be punishable by death
brave browser has built in adblock for desktop and mobile. combine that with sponsorblock (skips in video ads) and you get to use youtube the way you want to. entertainment, not advertisement.
Don't forget the reminders to use premium, music, and tv every hour
And getting the same three ads for weeks
And keeping the premium features on your menus
And marking videos that have "shared revenue" for having music as music so you can't get around paying for premium with the picture-in-picture feature built into your device (this one might just be me)
And marking the ad as something you don't want to see anymore, only for the next two ads to be the exact same one. Not just for the same thing, the exact same advertisement. (Why even have the system if it doesn't function?)
@Incognito\ I’m perfectly fine with that, hell I may just have been an idiot and it may have just hit 0:07 and I didn’t read it right but I swear it was a unskipable 7 minute poorly made car insurance ad that I saw in 2017
@Futrey I made this comment 7 months ago, genius. You really think my opinion hasn’t changed in 7 months? you wanna tell me what’s changed in 7 months? unskippable ads aren’t a big deal, but they’re annoying as hell. all ads are annoying as hell. now find something better to do.
i dont see what the big deal is with unskippable ads, i mean sure they're annoying, but have you ever tried using cable before? Don't ruin your attention span like this
@So confused Never had a single ad show to me that was longer than 30 seconds, and I believe it was only two 15 second ones, and it was a one-off scenario
I know. I remember a video I watched years ago, watched it again and got multiple unskippable adds throughout the video. That video was 14 minutes long and took another few minutes to get through it.
Exactly. Unlock origin. I'm flabbergasted that a lot of ppl don't use an addblock or any other add on that obfuscate your presence or disable hidden trackers
When I saw this video I thought for a moment; "Oh boy just another video explaining why Youtube should bring back dislikes." Then I saw that it was posted before dislikes were removed and just "...No way..." Man, this aged like fine wine...
YouTube doesn't care about the well-being of its creators. If they really did, then they'd tackle the issue of especially small creators getting bullied by large corporations with things such as false copyright claims. But it's easier for them to say "we're doing this thing for you guys!" and not listen as those same people chastise the decision.
The nail in the coffin for the “comments are better feedback” argument: if a video had 1000 comments would you rather: A:have to spend hours reading them individually. Or B: see that there’s 600 dislikes and say to yourself “maybe I did something wrong” within the timespan of only a few seconds. Any ideas anyone?
Well, in the spirit of what Emp is saying, if people see a comment they like and agree with, (especially if its on a controversial video) they will like the comment. If enough people agree with that sentiment, it will be brought to the top of the comment section, along with all the others that the creator can see how much people like.
The only message that dislikes convey are Good and Bad. Not very descriptive wouldn't you say? For example, if I were to dislike your comment (assume that you could see that it was disliked for this example), the only thing it does is say that I don't agree, but WHY I don't agree. Dislikes by themselves only comment on what a person is saying by saying "Comment Bad," rather than a genuine explanation that someone has to put time into.
Also, people who care more to actually look at comments and choose one or multiple to like shows more care and justification than the opinions of those who are able to click dislike with no effort or thought necessary.
@Narthar you highly overestimate the intelligence of the average internet user. Literally just take a look at twitter. Go on, find a highly controversial tweet and read through the entire comment section. See if you can make any sense of it. Nobody does that now so why would it magically apply to YouTube?
In all honesty, not one to endorse removing dislikes by themselves, but I would argue that a well thought out, descriptive comment about what the uploader did right and wrong with the video could provide better feedback than any rating could.
However, like Lemon implied, most people who comment probably don’t choose to do that, and for those that do, their comments may not stay on top and be read by the uploader.
There is one thing I would argue though (controversial opinion of mine):
Personally, I favor the old star scale over likes and dislikes, and would favor reinstating that, with all ratings being filterable via another function.
There are a number of videos I’ve watched where I honestly have a mixed opinion of over the years for a variety of reasons, and a simple like or dislike wouldn’t really express my opinion well, and there are also videos that I liked that I feel deserve a higher rating than others I also liked, and similar things could be said about my dislikes.
the only thing that didn't age well with this video was the keemstar intro, but then again, it just reminds us how old of an issue this has been. We really need dislikes more than ever, once dislikes are removed I gave a feeling other video sharing websites will genuinely have a chance to survive.
I kind of want to leave a dislike because of the bizarre unfunny (imo) humor that also can be really loud. I like his videos but man the weird jump cuts with discolored simpsons just bother me.
Well, here we are. The downward spiral has finalized. I guess YouTube is "not super democratic." There's an extension that reenables dislikes, but that API will apparently be lost by 13 Dec. RIP
@Random Serbian Guy Well, you heard the part about how it's slimy manipulations and corporate agenda disliked the most. Youtube doesn't mind the first one and likes the latter, because of money obviously
@Mason Edwards no one pushes real leftist ideals lol they push what they think is maximizes their profits so in reality it’s a capitalist idea so if u hate ppl pandering to minorities you should be against capitalism because they only pander because it works for the majority of the population . Real leftist ideals is the dismantlement of capitalism thus going against all private property and means of maximizing profits . 👍🏾 hope you learned some
@Gleveland yup. Many examples of YouTube blatantly breaking actual laws and their own rules and thinking they can get away with it because they own the site
I dreaded the day this prophecy came to pass. Now that it has, I'm glad. 15 second unskippable ads, back-to-back ads, sh*t recommendation feed, and now this. The camel's back hasn't broken just yet, but if this keeps up then the days of my YouTube addition are numbered.
I'll be a happier and more productive person for it, once YouTube finally does something completely intolerable.
It's pretty straight forward at this point. YouTube has no intentions on designing the website to be user or creator friendly. They have been slowly changing the site into an algorithm hell of sponsored/suggested videos, and with the way they have monitored their own dislike system already feels like the goal here is to control and manipulate people's opinions and behaviors. Facebook's already doing it, and that's the reason why that place is a far worse algorithm hell. I wouldn't anticipate change but I appreciate that Youtubers spend time to make videos that help everyone get on the same page, or even become more aware of what's going on right now on the website. Why wouldn't YouTube want to remove the dislike button & meter? They have the most disliked videos on their own website.
I know this is still relevant as shit now, but I thought about something. Videos are a product, they should be able to give you something, may it be better understanding on something or just entertainment, they are a product, if I can't see that there was people who didn't like this product, how I know it does work or is useful? Bring dislikes back YouTube.
It's a real shame that Youtube has shown time and time again that it prefers its own corporate interest as opposed to the interest of the Youtube community.
Without dislikes, likes OR comments, YouTube will indeed become the next/alternative television, just like EmpLemon said in his “YouTube on a Downward Spiral” video.
@Boko Wasn't me who coined it, I had to look it up when I first saw i. Ratioing is somewhat explained in the video, as twitter only shows retweets, likes and comments people gauge how well received a post is by looking at its likes compared to it's comment count.
If the problem is “people coming to a video and disliking it without even watching it”, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just make the weight of a user’s dislike on the total count scale to watch time.
We are proud to announce that our new feature of removing dislikes has been a resounding success and made the platform much better overall. No longer will small creators be harassed by unscrupulous and perfidious dislike mobs. As calculated by our researchers, the initial outrage over removing the feature was overrepresented and the vast majority of viewers have grown to accept and even like the new feature.
youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
You know, I thought I was gonna be content with that little extension that gives my dislikes back, but I feel as if it's going to resemble the comment dislike but with a counter. Think of it from a guy that doesn't have the dislike-returner or whatever you'd like to call it. Yes, I can dislike, but why would I if it doesn't show up to the majority of people as useful information? This means, as the person with the extension that gives your dislikes back, you STILL don't get an accurate rating of the video with the snap of a finger and have to dig through the.. comment section. Yeah. I'm going off of an assumption that not everyone is going to try to bypass this and youtube is going to maintain their position on this one, though. Maybe everyone gets the extension. Maybe dislikes come back due to backlash. Hell, the extension may be removed. I don't know, and I just want the damn dislike button back.
There is no point in linking the dislike removal with the failure of the youtube rewind. There is no actual eviadance proving this, don't get me wrong it is a compelling theory but it is a theory and therefore should be treated as one and not as fact.
Y'know, I used to watch Olson. I liked his movie reviews and some of his social commentary. Eventually I stopped and unsubbed for a few years. When I came back, I remembered why I unsubbed in the first place. He's a self righteous, insufferable ass lol
as if comment dislikes do anything. Back in the early days they used to remove a thumbs up, like on reddit. Now a days it does jack all. Steam does this same practice. Think a review on Steam sucks? well down voting it is useless. Oh if you say its funny that counts! You can't downvote artwork either. Why is the button there if it does nothing? The illusion of choice? Just like a telltale game...
Who would have known that 2 years later he was right. Sad that this company has done so much wrong but still gets accepted. I hate how they have gone for a more business oriented company instead of the small engaging one. Now it leaves youtubers like emp in the dust.
I came here because the return YouTube dislikes extension stopped working for me. This company is garbage they don't care about there creators or viewers, I don't even think in this case that advertisers cared they're just shooting there reputation. Sadly their is not one good competitor I'm willing to use so this is what im stuck with.
Your general point about how yt shouldn't remove dislikes is right but your dismissal of big communities easily mass disliking creators completely ignores the point and jumps into the top 10 most disliked videos, which aren't the problem. In fact, they are one of the very few places where the dislike button works as it should. You can't extrapolate that into million subscriber and lower creators/videos. Especially not if you start by claiming highly disliked videos should be assumed controversial or bad.
The like/dislike ratio is barely usable. It needs a rework, not bland unreliable reasons for its existence like you do on this video.
Guess it doesn't matter anyways. The big corporate entity did the thing that benefits its big corporate stunts.
See the only problem with that is the scummy you tubers who deserve dislikes the most wont do that because they don’t want people to dislike their shit
hello people? have you noticed the covid videos that are always ratioed? i think youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
Also no one gonna read 100+ comments to determine video quality. Plus a lot of criticism or arguments will just get sink on ocean of comments and only most popular will get attention (still not guaranteed, it doesn't always even categorize comments by most upvotes. It's pretty random actually. Like it has it own algorithm, which comment will be on top)
I'm pretty sure this video has more dislikes than it should purely because of it's title. Just like how pewdiepie's video where he asked everyone to keep it 50-50 between likes and dislikes is technically in the controversial tier.
@LexiTHPS Lots of people disliked to support dislikes, actually. I suppose you could call that a checkmate to YouTube removing dislikes, but they're not genuine dislikes, so I dunno, really....
Honestly I think i'm even more disappointed at Rewind 2019 than 2018. Because at least they tried doing something big on that one, while in the newest rewind they literally made a glorified top 10. And they kept hyping it up saying that pewdiepie was going to be in it, mr beast, etc. And while they technically are in the video. The only thing they did was take random footage from their normal videos, they didn't actually reunite and plan out some sort of funny skit in like the other rewinds. It's lazy and an insult to the community
they should at least pick the videos they want to censor.
for example: I want to watch tutorial to build/construct something, instead of determining the video if its good by watching the like/dislike ratio, you now have to watch the whole thing to find out. stupid channels will win. channels like those chinese videos who fixes everything with noodles and hot glue. or those channels who put blades on angle grinder. imagine how many injuries will occur.
in I.T. side of youtube will be flooded with uninformed people who barely speak english giving damaging tutorial on Tech and software topics. so many people will be misguided and disappointed.
no to mention a lot of industries. so many people rely on this platform because they're not a computer who can recall the information they need in moment's notice.
a lot of people rely on this platform to learn new skills.
YouTube: " The people disliking our videos must've come from an angry alt-right mob! " Also YouTube: Shoves political opinions into a video that supposedly celebrates YouTube
YouTube: "Guys, you cant just dislike a video without watching the actual video" Me: You underestimate my clicktivism and lack of anything better to do with what spare time I get.
Removing dislikes on comments was also a terrible idea that happened a long time ago... it creates comment sections that are echo chambers and cesspools of bigotry because only likes are counted, so they just pile up and up even if there are 3k people who liked the comment and 20k people who would dislike it
Hoping a brilliant dev comes around and creates a viable 3rd party solution, with an external 3rd party dislike (and perhaps likes as well) database, tracked outside of YouTube's official counts. Probably won't be too difficult to implement as a browser add-on, but unfortunately will likely be most difficult to deal with iOS users. Of course for Android, the vanced team would probably be able to implement it, but I doubt such a thing would get published to the official apple app store. I'm not talking about the existing plugin to bring back official dislike counts, which will eventually be patched out / API killed, but a long term solution. Not perfect, it won't account for the vase majority of users, but I really can't think of a viable long term solution otherwise. Removing dislikes is by far the worst decision that has ever been made on this platform, as it affects and can lead to harm for every single end user. But it's still no surprise that it's come to this, smh.
I literally came to this video just to see if YouTube removed the dislikes from it yet. Let us all look at the 11K dislikes on this video and think of a better time of YouTube.
but here we are and they actually did it. I will miss this button a lot. From now on I will dislike every single video I see as a form of protest against this system.
I just think he puts too much emphesis on the dislike and doesn't mention how much public opinion is swayed by other things. Dislikes dont mean that much, people will still be able to get their opinions out
@iseemtobelost if that the case then from 2017 most people started to getting hated by the YouTube rewind for obvious reasons and they're vocal about their opinion but YouTube didn't listen until 2018 were rewind became the most disliked video on the platform...
@• Observer The rewinds before didn't get as many dislikes and wasn't as hated. Idk I just find it hard to belive that youtube only cared because of the dislikes and not because everyone hated it and would express their opinion either way. This video assumes that dislikes are the only way to show discontent that matters but if you think about it, it makes no sense.
I know youtube has made pretty awful changes in the past but REMOVING DISLIKES?! That's just way too far! At this point, tick tok is more appropriate website.
I looked at how many dislikes there are on this video to see how many people rooted for getting rid of dislikes but then I remembered that they made the dislike button invisible
I have a feeling that if they do get remove the dislike button then people are gonna use thumbs down emojis on the comment section to describe a dislike
I don't really understand why Emp would single out Dan Olsen and Quinton Reviews? Whilst I agree that dislikes shouldn't be disabled by default I think it should be fine for a creator to choose to turn them off. Tbh it came off more like Emp just personally disagreed with some of Dan and Quinton's beliefs or was salty that Quinton blocked him on Twitter. Emp has the right to his opinion but Dan also has the right to his, maybe he was wrong about dislikes in some ways but the attacks on him in this video seem a little petty.
my thoughts exactly. also thought the counterargument to "dislike mobs" was a bit disingenuous, by looking at the most disliked videos. 99% of youtubers are not jake paul or world famous pop stars... of course they wouldn't have the highest amount of dislikes on wikipedia?
Well now they're finally removing them. Dislikes are still up for me at the moment, so I'll report the ones on this video: As of commenting, this video has 80,056 likes and 11,095 dislikes.
But the thing is, dislikes don't silence people. A person can get disliked to hell and back, but that doesn't effect their ability to just keep doing the same thing over and over again.
@schtipadoo At least we can reply to them, and normally people like the comments rivaling the original comment, so I would say it's very easy to show your opinion with or without the dislike button on comments.
@gapple * stars would probably be the same thing. Low ratings wouldn't be pushed as hard. I don't agree with silencing but if someone things your anti blm points are dumb or something as simple as YouTube rewind how else are we gonna express it's terrible
On the “dislikes are coming from people who haven’t even watched 5 seconds” argument, it’s correct, however I often watch sections from controversial videos on reactionary videos, dislike, and watch the video in its entirety later.
hey emp can i borrow the time machine that you use to make videos that exactly predict the future. i mean how else can you explain this being 100% accurate to what happened in 2022
Hmmmm, I'm seeing some channels like Emps with Dislikes still, but a lot of other channels like legacy media's dislikes are gone, is it a choice a channel can do, or will they all soon be invisible?
To funny thanks to the big-guy in US office... and legacy media complaining to google... we are here now, at least the creator still can see the dislikes.
I can't tell if people are disliking the video to show support for the dislike button, or if they're disliking it to dislike it, but either way it only prove Empy right.
The only people who actively want the dislike button gone. Are those who have extremely controversial opinions and actively get disliked a lot. Or more the ones who aren't used to their controversial opinions being opposed.
The fact they have now completely deleted the dislike button, has also led to a huge increase in scam videos. People selling products, links, and apps that literally do nothing, and people who get scammed leave comments, but people who don't but realize what it is leave dislikes. Now you don't even get to see how many people don't trust new products.
I thought it was kinda weird to make an example out of Dan Olson until you showed he was an actual youtuber putting his opinions out there and turning off ratings and not just a guy on Twitter
It's funny that Dan removed ratings on a couple of his videos, considering one of them is just about editing (where he just talked trash about Suicide Squad, something everyone at the time was doing)
The other one I can think of is admittedly really spicy, one about authorial intent and accountability in freedom of speech (which is pretty ironic)
Unlike what Emp suggests, Dan really doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be cowering from internet hate, he seems really savvy about the inner workings of the platform, and has worked on videos about much more dangerous subjects, and the ratings are still up, so that behavior seems kinda odd
"For every massively unpopular feature that nobody likes and Youtube rolls out anyway, they all begin the same way with Youtube teasing it and treating it like a non-committal optional thing. And then it becomes default for the whole site." Oh no
@Quilly they teased it back then but they just made the announcement that they’re planning to slowly roll out hiding dislikes to anyone but the channel owner.
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” ― Frantz Fanon
@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart Politics in general is full of cognitive dissonance, that's why it is important to stay in the center and not label yourself as being on one side.
@Enfield_the_Enigmatic I know. But factually, lefties are mostly the ones that suffer from cognitive dissonance, considering that they are the one of the last sides to still use propaganda as a ressource to brainwash teenagers.
@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart Yes, the left does target younger people more, but that kinda goes with the whole liberal thing anyway. I will say though, that their marketing is often incredibly shallow. Conservatives tend to be more direct, for better or for worse.
Debates regarding leadership and how a location should be run and any reviews of the 2017 live action film known as star wars the last jedi, are one in the same
Politics vs a politically fueled movie that’s also not very good. They definitely overlap in some areas, but the Last Jedi’s shit for more reasons than just politics
Chennzy The Last Jedi’s a shit movie that tried to hide its problems with shoehorned politics. So, reviewing it usually bleeds into the politics, but not always
Why did anybody care about “YouTube rewind”? I’ve never even really known what it is, and I’ve been here since 2007. I guess it’s YouTube’s own year end highlight reel but who even watches it?
Lots of nonsensical instances where YouTube displays biased reluctance over an alteration due to “constrictions [their] platform contains,” as if they somehow can’t just add quality of life improvements to the features they themselves have constricted. “Dislikes harm a video’s presence on the front page due to what the algorithm prioritizes.” Ok, so you can’t alter the algorithm so that’s not the case? “Annotations are impractical for the platform as a whole, they don’t even work on mobile.” Ok, then implement them on mobile.
I agreed with most of what you said besides what you said about how people "dislike" things on 4chan. Most of the time if its something people legitimately do not like they will simply just not respond to your post or thread until it gets automatically archived. If what you said was outright bad and not even in a funny way people will just not respond to you, and the silence resulting from that is ironically more deafening and hurtful than any amount of angry (You)s coming your way.
Newgrounds servers are too small to handle a large amount users. This has been proven twice, first when [S] Cascade was hosted there & second when Friday Night Funkin' Week 7 became a timed exclusive there. There isn't a massive population so moderation is less tight, if you're gonna have that many people. You're gonna need bots.
well, if dislikes are gone, ppl should take likes off the video, but there is a problem as i m typing this, sice april 14th 2009, 475,261 ppl liked it, some accounts may not be active and some ppl may have forgotten this
El Dente2021-12-20 01:53:12 (edited 2021-12-20 01:53:37 )
Meeting ppl with somewhat similar dislikes is always a plus. Like, If you like pizza with pineapple, I might have to pass lol or pick it off. Not everyone knows exactly what all the like or dislike. However though you find out. I know some may be biased before they try or view it from the type of attention it receives. Though if your just going to judge by where the crowd goes, that's band wagoning.ie, "everybody likes mj" , or the best sports team or hometown team. Instead of just forming the own opinion, whether the a reason or not. I mean all do have our own brain got a reason, use it sometimes. Dislikes are important just as much as likes. Some people are overtly hyper critical about everything, but they have that right too. And some are the complete opposite. Youtube didn't do right by this update, in my own opinion. If its dislikes bots or like bots they should do something to protect against it. And yes the both types of bots.
I love dislikes! One of my most popular videos "CSGO - "Hundredth, FREE" Is The Worst Music Kit👎" has over 657 dislikes and I think it's only right that I try to keep the score up. YouTube is wishing there's this hugbox system where nobody stands in the way of them making money and taking it from viewers without the possibility of feedback or any kind of way for uploaders to improve. It's totally pathetic of them to do it. Thanks for the upload man.
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Mert Efe2021-11-13 19:01:27 (edited 2021-11-13 19:01:36 )
you predicted the future. i hereby declare you my prophey
@كلفل Clivil I for me its more like if theres 20,000k likes and 20,999k dislikes theres no difference but if theres 2,000k likes and 2,999 dislikes it shows 2,0k and 2,9k
Man you should redo this video since they’re hiding the dislikes. Plus the dislike ratios you showed in this are nothing compared to the White Houses YouTube page
I said this in that other video Team YouTube posted recently, but it sucks how the most likely outcome from this controversy is that we'll complain for a couple of weeks, YouTube will give a half assed reply, we'll sperg out some more and then everyone will go back to watching stuff on this site. We'll adapt to it, sure. And then YouTube will crack down on that and we'll get backed into another corner, and this will keep repeating until there's no more corners to run off to.
It honestly sickens me how much our inertia is going to aid YouTube in continuing to treat us (the viewers and creators alike) like shit.
The more I watch Emplemon videos the more I lose hope in this entire plain of existence. Oh well, I guess you could say we are all on a downward spiral.
According to EmpLemon's like/dislike chart his video is between the 'Disputed tier' and 'Controversial tier' which is actually quite similar to the theme of it. Nice >:]
Picture this: I'm a young, uninformed viewer; I click onto a video discussing a topic I'm unfamiliar with. Without the dislike button, I would have no way of knowing that what I'm being presented is flawed or inaccurate.
Now of course, ideally, everyone would apply critical thinking and do their own research, but the truth of the matter is that a lot of the younger audience, and even a good portion of the older audiences will take a video for what it is. Even if, in the end, you and up agreeing with the message anyway, it's important to understand that what you're watching is contestable.
@Nilstrieb same but I kick myself for it. I have ended up thinking some pretty dumb things simply because I was presented with an agreeable video with a lot of likes so I didn't think too critically about it to later have it bite me. I'd call it a bad habit and you should always be on your guard... And what machine of a person will do that? Not me I'm lazy but at least I go with the presumption even things I think absolute truths could be horribly wrong. Sooo... Moral of the story, always be open minded. But hey what do I know?
Picture this: I'm a young, uninformed viewer; I click on a video discussing a topic I'm unfamiliar with. The video is well researched and academically sound but the majority of past viewers disliked it anyway because it conflicts with their conservative views. That might make me not watch the video at all. If people only look at things the majority already agrees with, how are we supposed to keep progressing?
@u9000 Nine Sorry for a very late reply but anyway. To clarify what I meant. I'm a lazy bastard so I have a bad habit of taking info at face value. On occasion I remind myself how flawed of a view that is and that I could very well be wrong about anything and/or everything I know. So I know nothing and my bad habit is I pretend I do know something. What I should do is check sources and think critically. But I'm a lazy bastard who don't do what I should.
Occasionally this comes back to bite me and I end up looking like a fool in a conversation. I proceed to metaphorically kick myself and remind myself I'm lazy and somewhat dumb and to try in the future to proceed with more caution with subjects I think I know but need to remind myself I might not know. My info is surface info that hasn't been checked a lot of the time and I should stick to speaking about topics I've actually checked the sources for or simply admit I'm out of my depth.
It isn't a dual message. (at least I don't think so) probably just confusing? English is my second language so I wouldn't be surprised if my wording is garbage. Sorry for that. the TL:DR of my two point's I was making is below.
-you should always be critical that's the ideal. -I'm lazy and human. So I'm bad at always being critical and I don't like myself for that.
@Amones-Ray I agree with you 100%, I think it's important to keep a critical mind, for both sides. Speaking from personal experience, I've fallen on both sides of the situation. I've seen videos where I had no idea something was off until I saw the dislikes, and I've seen videos where I saw the dislikes but watched anyway, and still agreed with what I've heard. My point was in no way insinuating that a person should use that a determining factor every single time, but more so that it's a very important tool to assist in critical thinking and understanding that should not be taken away. I also was referring more to the kinds of videos where a person is telling a 'story,' making an accusation, or an apology. In these situations the dislike ratio would usually imply that there's something you're missing in the details, they're being deceptive, or other such things. Now of course, you should still always consider that the people disliking the video could be the ones misinformed or in the wrong, but that doesn't make their opinion any less valuable to a critical mind. It seems though, that you were thinking in terms of me political content, in which case I believe that there will always be a very high ratio of dislikes, as is always the case with controversial or button issues. However, although it really shouldn't be given as much thought in a political setting, it still does hold value.
Anyway, I realise this was a bit long, but I do hope you see where I'm coming from.
Aside from me using dislikes rationally, I also need it when someone posts like, a fake news story with click bait. Like, I can't find info on this but the title says it's true, what do the comments say? Oh they're generally positive? I'm sure the creator isn't deleting comments or anything.
@𝖁𝖎𝖓𝖈𝖊𝖓𝖙 𝕴𝖗𝖐𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖆 🐲 𒀭𒌉𒍑 𒄫 𒅇𒋗𒃲 That is true, but I'll relate it to this; if one riot breaks out, does that mean that the right to protest should be taken away? While there will always be the occasional riots throughout history, they shouldn't overshadow the many, many more peaceful protests that go on all the time.
That may have been a tad dramatic, but I believe it does well to illustrate my point.
Additionally, I'd say that calling it a "dislike mob" immediately acts to take away any reason or understanding from the occurrence. It's important to understand that 'dislike mobs' don't happen out of nothing, there is a reason why they occur, illogical or otherwise. While there are occasions where the 'dislike mob' is driven by things such as; a person sending people to try and silence someone, a reaction to someone sharing an unpopular opinion, or cancel culture, it is just as likely, if not more so, that the so-called "dislike mob" is acting in reaction to something that warrants such a reaction. And when I say "warrants such a reaction," I don't necessarily mean that it's something that is completely objective. I'm referring to anything that's considered 'controversial.' Even if I don't agree with something, it's important for it to be represented as something that causes a divide in opinion. Silencing disappearances and hate doesn't make them disappear, nor does it benefit the uninformed. If were silence dialogue and opinions, then we silence our ability to grow our own opinions, and understand the opinions of others; even if we don't agree. Just because something is negative, doesn't mean it's bad. We can't grow if we don't accept that and face reality, even if it is unpleasant.
@UB My point was that like bars can allow videos to tank despite all the people who disliked it not being able to argue against it. This is most likely if the video conflicts with beliefs that a large portion of the population acquired at a very young age from members of the preceding generation. In other words, it's most likely that the video conflicts with views that were and possibly still are mainstream: i.e. conservative views.
@Amones-Ray "videos to tank" Do you mean the reputation of the videos or the actual performance? Because yeah, there's basically no proof that dislikes hurt a video's performance (unless I guess a YouTube employee dislikes it, but it wouldn't be the dislike itself that would affect it)
@UB Yeah, you're right, "tank" was definitely exaggerated. But on the other hand I find it hard to imagine that no one ever decides to stop a video early on because of dislikes.
It’s kind of like a product with reviews. If I see a product with a bad rating I’m going to look at the reviews to see why. If I see a video with a lot of dislikes I’m going to look at the comment to see why
How about rather giving the direct option to comment after a dislike where you can state why you disliked and do it like constructive criticism could be ? I mean I can see people misusing that feature but hey when did stuff on youtube go smooth for once ..
@FlexViper That is an annoying and time-consuming process. You'd have to spend all day making accounts, and you'd barely accomplish anything. 30 accounts equal 30 dislikes, which is nothing.
@MediaMunkee Yeah, large accounts. Reminded me of a brainwashed feminist who came to my school one day and started spitting unofficial facts and silencing anyone who disagreed, because adult>kid so popularchannel>anyone
It's funny because I did this exercise of Dislike separation and 10% basically statistical standard. Also I do have a criticism on this video goes on for 5-7 minutes too long.
The whole spiel explaining how dislikes are good for self improvement, unnecessary.
If I come across a video that has ratings disabled, there's a 90% chance I'm just ditching it unless it's something I particularly wanted to see. I'll usually just assume the video would have 50% dislikes if it were showing them, and it's not worth my time.
I bet that by 2023 they will deactivate comments to protect "people who need it" ie, people that did bad things and don't want to hear criticism or hate.
@Muffin Man They didn't exactly hide dislikes. It's just a 'total score' based on likes minus dislikes, except it doesn't let it show negative numbers for whatever reason. But at least we still have that, rather than a complete removal of dislikes.
Theoretically this video should have zero dislikes. Because the people who disagree and think dislikes shouldn't exist obviously wouldn't use the feature they despise so much, right?
When i heard the news of youtube "testing" to remove the dislike button, this video immediately came to my mind. You were right EmpLemon, you were right.
Because we as collective consumers are unwilling to move to another platform. As Emp himself has said, sadly with most changes people will hemm and haw for a while and still use Youtube despite how fucked the situation is.
If they remove the like button you can't compare the amount of likes to the amount of comments to see whether it's good or not. Edit: Or, better yet, compare likes to views.
I have a lot of difficulty writing comments that I feel comfortable posting. I can just get a bit obsessive with my wording or worry that I'm not communicating my intent clearly or just feel uncomfortable leaving my opinion out for everyone to see. For me, ratings are a must.
Yo, me too. Honestly, I could spend up to half an hour writing a comment, mainly because I feel the wording could always be better and more fluid, and that I had much more to say but didn't want it to turn into tl;dr. Right now I feel I have a better grasp of it but yeah, I still hesitate posting anything most of the time :P
Ive made a habit of posting the following comment on relevant videos:
"This is a friendly reminder that the reason Youtube eliminated the dislike button is to limit your ability to readily tell if other people also think something is a bad idea."
How are comments harder to spam? I see so many relentless spam/harassment style comments, and reporting it does nothing. The only way to get rid of someone spamming the comments, is to notify the creator, which isn’t always easy to do, plus the creator has to care enough to do something about it.
Now youtube are taking out the dislikes. This video predicted this so well. Although we all should have seen this coming. I care about youtube because I see a ton of videos here; between 10 and 20 per day. I AM GOING TO PROTEST. For two weeks starting tomorrow, I will not see any videos from youtube. This is my last hope and effort. Youtube will not see my ad money here.
I have comment this to many videos and to many youtubers I see. But if the case is that youtube doesn´t retract. I have said goodbye to each youtuber I see. I thank them for the awesome work they do. It is hard for me to think I will not see them again; if I must go, I will go. Hopefully, youtube changes just this thing... I really hope so.
The "dislikes are binary" complaint... Ah, maybe we could have a 1-5 star rating system? Oh wait, they did that for years and everyone only hit "1" or "5" anyway. Binary is what we go to when given the choice.
blue gamer52021-11-20 20:27:01 (edited 2021-11-20 20:27:36 )
Now that Youtube has removed dislikes I think It would be a good idea to post a comment that says like this comment if you dislike the video then pin it
To anybody who is just as slow as me, there's an extension to fix current stupid youtube change. Please share this info where you find it to be nessesary.
Removing dislikes was done expressway for big companies and shit like that. Things like GTA V revealed on next gen consoles, that get massive amounts of views but NOBODY likes the fact that it’s a thing. How do they trick the average viewer into thinking the perception of a video with 50K likes and a million dislikes is actually liked by the people? Hide the dislikes. Let them just see how many people liked it, and the view count. It’s completely disgusting
It really didn't; given the fact that this video was made when they were thinking about doing it. It was also bound to happen at some point as YouTube must protect muh brands and muh political figures. This feature is just the worst. I wish that some other platform can overtake YouTube in popularity.
@lakamokolaka yeah but i think the star system is just not really good in the modern internet i mean look at the google play reviews most of them is 5 stars or 1 star so its basically the same system
This is only a workaround. "Return Youtube Dislike" lets you see the dislike counter again. Apparently this add-on won't work in future. Let's hope guys
3:53 ah yes , the comment section , so that when we comment , we can open ourselves to reports and get our whole account suspended (which is essentially a lifetime ban , dont know why they call it suspension) for a few comments and not be able to appeal.
I remember going up to my grand parents house during the summer when both my parents were working and playing ballons td 5 on miniclip. I love that game
Random Crits add to TF2's wackiness. It also helps get rid of that Pyro/Soldier/Demo that camps your spawn and gives a bit more reason to use your melee.
@Pokémaniac Guquiz We have a whole video dedicated to why Crits are bad with actual solid points and you probably chose to ignore it in favor "because its fun".
@Pokémaniac Guquiz That demo/soldier/pyro camping your spawn is more likely to get crits regardless, since they arent stuck in spawn, but i do get your point. It helps sometimes.
Also, for anyone confused on how this is the same but the opposite, in the crit debate, people want to remove a mechanic because the dev wont on their own, and in this argument, people want a mechanic to stay, because the devs are showing interest in removing said mechanic. That is all.
@Pokémaniac Guquiz Random crits are a detriment to TF2's competitive enviroment. Besides, it's always frustrating to get killed by someone you know didn't deserve it. It has gotten to the point where I get frustrated with the game when I crocket someone.
@Pokémaniac Guquiz Competitive mode sucks and you know that. I'm tired of this arguement being brought up, it's stupid. I want to be able to enjoy this game as it was meant to be played instead of playing a cobbled together cs:go comp wannabe.
It's also possible to get a major amount of dislikes when going against a medium with a manipulated fanbase. It's not always the creators fault. Great video never-the-less!
I'm glad I found your channel. I've been binging it the last few days, and from what I've seen you not only can compose a great documentary, but you also seem to be able to form your own rational opinions rather than be strongly influenced by people ("seem", of course, since I don't actually know you personally). I watched Quinton Reviews briefly for awhile there, but after seeing how racist he was I had to unsubscribe and stop watching, and seeing you disappointed in him too in this video brought some solace to my heart. Keep up the good work.
@Sillimant but 4chan has a high concentration of right wing users while on youtube it could be argued that this is the most politically diverse social platfrom on the internet due to how vast youtube is.
@quantum. I never said or even mentioned politics. I was only Talkin about the toxicity which both sites are already known for. If YouTube becomes the same format as 4chan, YouTube will become so much worse than 4chan ever could be
@quantum. I've been on the site and honestly it just depends on where you look. Funny enough, there's way more porn and weebs than there are right wingers.
oh, no, I disliked this video because it was great! we all need the dislike button to be able to express ourselves, so lets give it some space here (maybe make it neutral)
@Charlie Scales Now, since you did that, I'm purposefully not going to change it right now, as of right now, right about now, right now, about now, in this very moment, at this very precise point in time, as in, like, now. Totally.
I remember when I was living in this house and had my photography all up on the walls. Some guy (roommate's friend I think) was over and walked around and basically tore apart every photo I had up.(I was a pretty new photographer and yes they sucked, no one had the balls to tell me though).
Looking back 10 years later he was absolutely right, and it was the most valuable feedback I've ever received. The truth hurts but EmpLemon is right, it's honest, unfiltered, and in the end sets you up to grow as a person/creator.
I totally agree. The only time I really understand creators turning off their likes is when they have an unstable mental well-being. I watch mostly art channels, so when they animate a vent and a bunch of people comment that they “need to go die” then I totally understand. For some things, like animation, usually comments are the best place to criticize because it isn’t an opinion, really, it’s how you do a skill.
It’s also annoying how there are dislikes as soon as a video is posted, so it’s hard not to believe people subscribe just to hate, which can be extremely annoying when they couldn’t have even watched the first few seconds, but it’s never over a hundred.
Great vid, it really helped me understand both arguments and your opinion Thanks dude
Temporarily at least, apparently Google will be updating their API so that browser extensions won't be able to view dislikes shortly after the new year. Shit sucks.
@H.G. Commons I'm suprised EmpLemon has never talked about kiwifarms, probably because the only people who tend to are the people who have been doxed by them or are salty about their existence (and I suspect emp doesn't want to piss them off either). But I think it would make an interesting video because they are a quite unique entity within internet culture which actually seems to be gaining massive influence as of late.
@Bryan Smith Went to KF for the Warframe BS and the KickVic stuff. There's def a lot of autism, but it's generally vaguely pointed in the right direction, and there's strict site/cultural rules against actually bullying the lolcows, which is weird, but actually quite nice in various meanings of the word.
@Gay Champagne Socialist Yeah, they could certainly do a lot worse to the lolcows than they already do, but I suspect they don't because the people they tend to target are already mental wrecks and it's just more entertaining to watch them implode on their own instead of intentionally ruining their lives. Although, I think they could scale back the doxing to just names and faces of the lolcows, but that's just me being optimistic.
I actually found the site through Metokur and the whole IBS drama and it's kind of amazing how addictive it can be to lurk on there.
He wrote an article exposing the cp on 8chan, and he was completely cleared by the police. But sure tell me again how the people fighting cp are the real pedophiles.
There's CP on all social media websites. It's just whether the pedos share it privately or share it on anonymous accounts on sites like 8chan. We've got the "nomaps" on twitter, who jumped from tumblr, for example.
@Julie Swevery Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, all the other major social media sites have more CP on them then the supposed wild-west of either 4chan or 8chan. I would be quite confident on betting it's actually worse per capita instead of just pure volume.
@Void of Space and Time of course you can't do anything if they share it privately, but do you actually want to tell me that all social media sites have approximately the same amount of open cp on them? Bc im pretty sure that 8chan is the only site that's blacklisted by Google for exactly that reason, they don't ban the people and the material unlike all other websites.
@Julie SweveryThere were quite a lot of news stories from a while ago about the issue. The most recent was Youtube, though that targeted 'softcore' CP rings here, but I count those because CP is CP.
@Julie Swevery "the headlining thread on /hebe/ featured a link to an IRC channel hosted on starrevolution.org.[6] A simple IP trace quickly showed that starrevolution.org shared an IP address with multiple other sites - including Laurelai Bailey's personal website[7] and SJWiki, which Laurelai is the proprietress of.[8][9] Finally, it was discovered that Olson had a pre-existing relationship with Laurelai, both contacting her repeatedly via Twitter and being a routine editor of SJWiki. [10][11] Anonymous reports from other SJWiki editors allege that Laurelai was approached by Olson, and leaped at the opportunity to raise her personal profile and Social Justice bonafides. "
@Gay Champagne Socialist so how does this make the cp on 8chan any better. Yt actually did something against them almost immediately, unlike some other website
@Julie Swevery there is no cp on 8chan, it's the rule 1, if cp is posted it's removed "Are there any global rules regarding content?
Only one:
Do not post, request, or link to any content that is illegal in the United States of America and do not create boards with the sole purpose of posting or spreading such content."
@RATO "there is no cp on 8chan" this is just wrong. Even if you falsely belief that Dan set this all up, 8chan still allowed it and didn't counteract. Any way you frame it, 8chan tolerated cp so can you please stop defending them?
@Julie Swevery they never tolerated cp, it was always against the rules and deleted, i was there back in 2014 during the third exodus when hotwheels was still the owner, cp means insta perma ban
@Julie Swevery i posted a link that had the evidence but i think it got filtered, go on google and search "lolcow wiki dan olson" and you find that excerpt that i copied, you see those numbers? ex: "[3] [4]" you click on them and they redirect to the sources of the evidence proving that he did those things
@RATO RATO citing a website that's heavily biased towards Gamer gate is not the good evidence you think it is.
Anyways, maybe I should have been more specific: how would it have been possible for Dan Olson to set up cp on the site when they allegedly instantly ban and delete everything related to it?
I think it was more along the lines of him taking screen shots of CP from 8chan boards to show as examples of 8chan being a terrible place, not realizing that by doing so he is downloading and distributing CP himself.
@RATO screenshots as in multiple? There's only one with no context, all other sources are total shit lmao.
"Dan Olson wanted to frame and set up 8chan with an article" and the source links to Dan's own article and gives no evidence for his supposedly bad intentions, this is laughable
I've always disliked videos that have the comments off and or ratings off and then leave, 95% of the time it means something is wrong with the video and the creator doesn't want newer viewers to know.
You can use the dislike button as a "I've seen it" button to avoid getting constant reposts in your recommendations because videos you've already disliked will never pop up in your recommendations unless Youtube deliberately promotes a video
@Pokémaniac Guquiz I think you misunderstood my comment. If you dislike a video THAT VIDEO will not show up in your recommendations anymore unless there's a special promotion towards that video. You still get OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS based on that video which is still good because they're not videos you've already seen. You can also select "I'm not interested in recommendations based on this video", I'm well aware
There's an easier method - the "not interested" button that shows up if you click the three dot menu on the video suggestion. This also helps not skew your future suggestions.
@Jonseredi I've never seen this happen, and it's not like you can't do it again. I've basically been doing this for years now, for as long as the feature has been available, and my feed is now actually quite decent.
@Selicre Yeah personal experiences aren't creditable here, but just saying you're not interested does not block those videos from popping up in your recommendations again, it only induces the system not to show it to you to some degree which is why it's inferior to disliking that just prevents it with promotional exclusions that will always be recommended to you
Also good for you. The decency of my recommendations is completely up to youtube. Usually I discover good videos like I did with emplemon one day, but sometimes it's just utter garbage especially if youtube themselves promotes certain channels/videos since they're usually not what I want to see
@King Dededelicious There is a BTD 6 on Steam. But it's paid. And it's grindy af. And the double cash mode is a microtransaction. At least there are plenty of user-made challenges and a good variety of towers (alchemist is amazing)
Just wanna congratulate you on making a video that has a second life (becomes relevant again years down the line). It's pretty cool when videos suddenly become relevant again because their creators wanted to talk about something that, at the time, not many cared about (I think).
We all need to band together and get the views thru the roof so that this vid gets on YouTube's trending page. Oh...wait, we're living in a reality where that likely will never happen, and dislikes will be a thing of the past. 🤦♂️
For anyone that didn't see yt's new twitter post from 3 hours ago, it's: "In response to creator feedback around well-being and targeted dislike campaigns, we're testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count. If you're part of this small experiment, you might spot one of these designs in the coming weeks" [then shows picture of new button designs for like, dislike, share, download, and save.]
Jack Kemp2021-12-08 18:00:36 (edited 2021-12-14 01:30:49 )
I use an extra channel called Substitute Dislike Button to leave comments under my videos telling people they're allowed to, "dislike the my video by liking the comment." Edit: They removed it.
I think it would be a neat idea if he did a documentary on flash games since flash will be discontinued in a few short years and all those games won’t be playable anymore.
I agree YouTube shouldn't remove dislikes, but argument basically boils down to "people don't weaponize the dislike button, but also weaponizing the dislike button is good and people should do it."
idk, i think he's completely forgone standalone poops and instead utilize the editing style for his informative works for the lels. But I guess we'll eventually see
Dude the dislikes I almost got me take away lemon law you have to come back your Dewey is 250 YouTube forgot to stop it ever do that system ever again or even dumb ones
Its incredibly ironic how many dislikes this video has. (I'm not trying to make a statement, I just think its funny; I actually completely agree that dislikes need to be kept)
The day will come when they will even remove the Like button. That day is not far along down the road. It might happen sooner than you think. Way, way sooner.
@Anavrin consider the fact that your recommendations are far more influenced by the titles you click than by what videos you like. The act of liking does indeed add to that ponderance but the gross of it has already been established by the act of going to that video, and if you think about it, that is far more meaningful because it is the part that represents curiosity. That is what actually drives people. The act of liking does nothing to confirm whether that curiosity has been satisfied, but instead just establishes if the content is in tune with your ego. The platform is far more interested in feeding you content that will stirr you one way or another, they don't really care about feeding your ego.
Still, I guess there is indeed a point to be made about keeping one trapped in a self-reassuring bubble but as advertisers they also need to bring in new content and products into said bubble, and this is again why the act of clicking the video is more revelatory than the act of clicking like: curiosity. Whether you like the product or not will entirely be up to you but the fact that you looked at it - that is what they are after. That is the reasoning behind what I said, but ofc there are always other ways of looking at it, depending on one's purpose.
How to deal with dislike mobs: Make it so you have to watch the video or at least 90% of it. That way if a youtuber is having drama and sent you to the enemy's channel, you can see the other person's part and reasoning.
Steam's dislike button for reviews turned into the same useless dislike button YouTube comments have. What was once "120 out of 600 people found this review helpful" turned into "120 people found this review helpful", making many awful reviews look decent. Luckily for us they added a "funny" option. So now terrible reviews look like this, "86 people found this review helpful. 584 people found this review funny". Steam unknowing created a clown spotting button.
what a terrible decision on Valves part, especially given that Steam exists solely because it at some point provided people a good user experience for making informed purchasing decisions - even amazon knows better than to sabotage itself like that.
@fartsnstuf Like the "dislike mobs" talked about in this video, review bombs have reasoning. Of course, in this case they do exist and aren't hugely rare, but groups of people don't poorly review a game for no reason. Once again referencing the video, this doesn't always mean the game's bad, but it does mean the people behind it did something wrong.
@Sleeves The problem is that you're comparing apples to oranges in this case, people already bought their desired game, and whenever something bad happens around the developers/parent company (Take-Two temporarily banning single player mods with the use of OpenIV, past Metro games getting bombed cause Metro Exodus is going to be a Epic store exclusive alongside Rocket League and Borderlands 3 getting acquired as well) considering that Valve isn't THAT controlling in comparison to Youtube in this case as long you're not a hacker/cheater, you have as much freedom of speech you can do on the site, I agree that what Take-Two did was harsh, and what's done is done as single-player mods are back and OpenIV is still running, but there could have been a less drastic way to amend the issue at hand, and if all other options have failed, then review bombing is fully justified. In the case of Metro's future games, Rocket League and Borderlands 3 being Epic store exclusive; review-bombing for petty internet drama that only a minority cares about is ridiculous, cause they'll eventually crawl back/towards to Steam in a couple years, or in Rocket League's case: not leave the steam store, cause Bethesda tried this same sort of shit by removing games from Steam for their own launcher and store; and since it's doing so pitifully, it's crawling back to Steam with games like Doom Eternal, Rage 2, Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot and Wolfenstein: Youngblood. appearing late 2019, not to mention adding back the games that was once removed from the Steam store.
@fartsnstuf the problem with the Take-Two case is that if we tried to fight the mod ban in a less harsh way they would just not care review bombs were used BECAUSE they were effective - as on here disliking rewind is a message that we don't like their approach, negatively reviewing a game (in this example, GTA 5) is a message that we don't like what they are doing and it's the only way to answer in a way that they will care about, since many people might not look at the forums of a game/comments of a video, but they will definitely notice when a game/video is rated under 50% positive, and that makes the corporate heads go nuts
@fartsnstuf I disagree. Sure, a lot of these issues are temporary and/or not relating to the core game, but how else will people speak out? With big developers, the only two ways for customers to protest is boycotting and review bombing, and if the game's actually good, then clearly the second option is better. Companies will keep doing what makes more money, so this is a good way to influence them into doing what's good for the consumer.
@Sleeves But there are several problems and variables in conjunction with each other, one of which is that the general audience won't/don't look into the context of why it's being review bombed, for example Monster Hunter World had a bad launch, which the reviews reflected it, after the game got patched and fixed after the launch; the reviews still reflects the game when before it got patched and fixed, still leaving it at a 6/10; which is same rating of No Man's Sky, a notorious rip-off that over-hyped itself into oblivion. between the two, i'd play Monster Hunter World over No Man Sky any day of the week, another notable example is Kerbal Space Program being review bombed because of a controversial chinese translation which boils down to PC culture trying to police everything. In short it's like Reddit with its own sort of ruling system
Well sh!t, if this does not trigger a response, like when they tried to overhaul the verification system, to bring back the visibility of dislikes, they will remove them completely.
@Sharp Hoplite It's been triggering a big response alright. 'Me at the Zoo' the first ever YouTube video had it's description changed to a rebuke of the dislike removal. Even Jawed is fucking pissed.
@Sue Zuccati They basically said: "If we are too dumb to make a rewind, we are not even trying this year. This wouldn't have happened if you didn't dislike our past rewind, be respectful this time." And it's like the most insulting thing youtube has done to the community, it's like they gave up on us, and blamed it on ourselves. This company deserves to learn a lesson from the community, because they didn't understand the first time.
"Removing isn't just a good thing, it's a great thing." I always interpreted that more like "isn't it great that I've been incapacitated from saying anything negative about this? Sure is awesome." But what do I know
Hell yeah! I for one prefer these long videos, as it gives me something to stream in the background whilst I'm doing tasks. I'm currently moving into a new apartment, so I guess it's time for me to hear my favorite angry vegan ranting whilst I'm loading boxes!
@Supreme Lord Daddy Emperor President Trump the nostalgia hearing that hit me like a truck. That game series was my childhood. I remember back when BTD 2 came out and everyone at school was super excited.
I think this video serves as an amazing commentary on how those at the top try to keep those beneath them by masking their agenda to "serve the underdog" when in reality all they really care about is themselves.
It can be seen everywhere. Relationships, our government, politics, and YouTube's dislike system as shown in this video.
Listen to 15:30. YouTube's argument for obscuring the dislike button is to protect the smaller creators from the "dislike mob". When, in reality, the videos with the highest percentage of dislikes are all corporate entities and no small creators. So really, this policy is not in service of the community. It is in sole self interest of the 1%
Thank you very much I just pulled this out of my a$$
Now all they have to do is get rid of that pesky comment section, then youtube will be a much more inclusive community that allows people to express themselves and their opinions
The dislike mob statement is stupid. There are way better ways to deal with that like making it to where you have to watch the video to a certain point to dislike.
I clicked the disliked button not because I didn't like the video, I quite enjoyed it actually. I clicked dislike to show my support for the dislike button.
Youtube: Look at how poorly this video has been received! Removing dislikes is clearly a popular opinion, judging from how many dislikes this video has.
I still remember when you could dislike comments on YouTube and the dislikes would actually show up. The dislike button on comments is just a ghost button at this point, I'm convinced it doesn't actually do anything now. Bring dislikes on comments back! It was a good way for communities to defend against spam and bots in the comments because they'd dislike the shit out of them and they'd get pushed to the bottom of the comments. Now comments could have 1 billion dislikes for all we know but it'd just look like a regular comment still. What's the point of even having it at this point?
Unrelated to anything: your voice reminds me of Yandere Dev. It's so distinct, slow, analytical, and confident, which perfectly pairs with videos about the themes of pointing out truths through data and people's bizarre choices. I'm inclined to trust you more than any psychologist I've ever seen appear on TV
I think more bigger social medias should have dislike buttons. It shows how the masses actually feel about content and it's helped in alot of bigger cases it seems like. But that's just me
There's a very simple solution, simply deactivate the rating buttons until you've watched a minimum of 25% of the video (not necessarily just the first 25%, or any uninterrupted portion that's 25%, just a quarter of the total length of the video, in however many pieces and if you finish watching another time) and maybe a minimum number of minutes for short videos.
Also I preferred the more granular star system, but If I got to reform the current ratings system, I'd leave the like/dislike bar alone, with the same very basic showing the number of likes and dislike and the graph. But what I'd do if give the user the ability to vote twice. So people could either vote like, double like, dislike, and double dislike. But the great thing about this is that for most people it wouldn't really change anything, everyone gets 2 votes and the like/dislike bar still just shows the totals and the ratio, but if you rolled over the bar you'd open a details pane with what would still be effectively the star system, you'd have a menu with 5 options, REALLY like, like, neutral, dislike and REALLY dislike. and then you get 5 bar graphs that show you how many PEOPLE voted for which of the 5 options. So you could see some more useful information like you might have a 98% like/dislike ratio, but when you look you see only a handful of people rating it REALLY, by far the most people just liked it, a significant number of people voted neutral but that few as they are, your down votes came almost exclusively from people who REALLY disliked it. From this you can determine that your content is generally mediocre, fairly bland and non-offensive, but that you don't really have a dedicated core audience and that a small percentage of people either really hated it, were extremely offended, or they strongly disagreed with your message.
It's laughable to say that people who come to youtube are anti-big corporations. You sit here on your Windows or Apple computers and view the site on Google Chrome.
Doesn’t Dan Olson have half a million subs and also a pretty large community within breadtube? Seems like his audience likes him and doesn’t mind that he disables comments on certain videos that hit the zeitgeist.
It is confirmed that dislikes are the same engagement factor as likes for exposure algorithms. So today is opposite day. Never be saddened by the ratio on this video.
I think they should get rid of likes and dislikes and instead have it that the video has a bump rate, so that likes counteract dislikes and vice versa. So a controversial youtube video would have as many "bumps" as a video that is barely seen because the likes and dislikes are so high equally.
I'm watching on my phone and it doesn't even show the bar so you can easily see the ratio. It just shows the numbers. Also disliking a comment seems to do absolutely nothing
For some reason, they removed the visibility of the amount of dislikes a comment gets. For example, this comment has two or three likes and over a thousand dislikes and yet you cannot see that.
16:33 Im subscribed to several female and minority creators and i don't think one of them has experienced a dislike mob on any video Funnily enough they don't really get involved in controversy they umm Make dresses Tell jokes Play video games that sort of thing the kind of stuff that doesn't give you dislike mobs from people who disagree with you
On all YouTube Kidz videos, the comments are disabled, but the ratings are left open. Almost like they acknowledge kids shouldn't be exposed to YouTube comments, but the likes & dislikes are perfectly fine for the developing mind
On Steam, there is no way no dislike game reviews that aren’t helpful, so the only way to show others that the review is bad is by giving it a clown award lol
I have long been a fan of your work, and was delighted to discover that we are peers on this oft-underappreciated issue of dislike suppression. However, as a self-styled democratist of internet discourse, I have ironically found it necessary to exercise my powers of "veto" on this selfsame video.
This is entirely due to the earrape segment found at 22:12 . I simply cannot find the words to communicate the seething enmity I felt towards you during it's excessive and maliciously self-indulgent runtime. It was appallingly insensitive towards your "secretly-listening-to-video-essays-at-work-through-an-earpiece-that-he-can't-be-seen-taking-out-of-his-ear-or-else-he-might-get-fired" demographic, and was about as tone-deaf as the injured parties were upon its completion. I suppose it is self-evident that my only recourse to represent my outrage to anywhere near the magnitude it so desperately deserves is through the time-honored medium of pointlessly bombastic and sententious letter composition. Rest assured, each and every ounce of supercilious disdain you may have detected upon reading this electronic missive, was, (in point of fact) entirely (though not altogether unironically) intentional. At the risk of sounding indecorous: fuck you. And please allow me to present this along with my downvote: 🖕
(Notwithstanding, I quite enjoy your work on the whole, and it is my fondest hope that you will compose many more thought-provoking video essays in times to come.)
"creators are better served by having a circle of people they trust provide direct, meaningful feedback." -Dan Olsen
Or to put it another way "creators are served by having a circle of yesman tell them how they're doing."
You know what needs to happen now? IF they really do remove dislikes from all videos, then on a video we'd normally dislike, we need to go to the comments and put a simple "Dislike". No reason, no explanation. Just do what we normally would, just with a word than a button click. I know I'm going to do it.
I think the most important aspect of the dislike video for me is the use of telling the algorithm to not suggest me something. eg if i watch a little bit of a jake paul video to see whats going on, i'll dislike so it doesn't show up on my homepage
Having dislikes (and likes too) is a ESSENTIAL thing and here I is why: There is a voting system called approval system, a specific version of it you say yes to the candidates you think should win/are good and if you dont rate with a yes/like/good/thumb up its assumed you dont want to like it. When you have tons of candidates (like youtube, where you nave an extreme amount of videos) and can't know everyone, this specific form of approval system become biased towards famous stuff. Imagine a video has a quality of 20% (this means that 20% of each person that view the video will like it) and 10 million views, this video will have 2000000 likes. Now imagine a less famous video with 80% quality and 100000 views, this new video will have 80000 likes. Thats 250 times less likes while the quality was 4x times bigger. This happens because the system (when looking only at likes) counts not knowing the video exist and liking it (if you viewed it) as hating it (since it wont get a like), a solution to fix is to look at the ratio of likes. With all this fame/views, if the video has a low quality with all those likes because of extra views, those extra views will also bring the haters and so the dislikes. Not only dislikes shouldnt be removed, but what youtube should do is instead of showing the amount of likes and the amount of dislikes, it should show the formula LikesToDislikeRatio= 100 *( Likes /(Likes+Dislikes)) to the users (maybe only showing separated likes and dislikes to the owner of the channel), with the sum of likes+dislikes when you put the mouse over the likes to dislike ratio score (to avoid videos with 5 likes and 0 dislikes and so a score of 100, being seeing as a awesome score). PS: it would require at least like or dislike to the score to show, to avoid division by zero. But there is more, they said they reduced 5 stars to just like and dislike, because most people used only 1 and 5 stars, by their logic they hould have changed it to the same thing but with just 2 gradings instead of 5, yet they separated the likes and dislikes as separated thing, instead of making the average like before. I mean no one before counted the amount of 4 stars at a video and said "wow look at this amount of 4 stars".... what mattered was the average score. So (unsurprisinly) they didnt even followed the idea behind the thing they said they were going to do. Anyway, as I said this problem happens when you have approval system and you can't dislike/thumb down something. It doenst affect only youtube likes, but also affect other things like: -Views because its impossible to unview a video so not viewing a video and liking it counts as a hate. This case is even worse, unlike with likes only situation, viewing some video and hating it counts as liking it as it would get a view anyway, unlike with the likes only situation. -Last.fm plays, because you can't say you hate some song just not play it and so if you would love to listen to song X but not know it exist, it count as you hating it. -Using the amount of people that brought product X as a way to gauge quality, many people buy justin bieber albums and because of it he goes to the billboard charts, but his like to dislike ratio is pretty low, with tons of people hating him, this happens because the thing is biased towards famous artists since you can't unbuy some album.
EmpLemon, I'm already stopping at 7:14 to just that you have pretty interesting taste in music. I'd never thought that Bloons Tower Defense (4?/5?) had great music. Good job dude.
@PON PON PATA PON but is that really true, are those statements actual or just fabricated exagerations from thunderfoot. I would like you to source all the information you suggested.
@Sans Spiritus But there are the vocal minority, and I mean VOCAL, that taint the reputation of those seeking actual social justice. In developed nations like the UK, US, etc., many people, including myself believe the anti discrimination approach has (for some people) gone in the direction of anti-freedom of speech. What should happen, in my opinion, is for everyone to meet a middle ground; not everyone wanting equality are angry feminists, but at the same time, there definitely is a significant backlash (for lack of a better word) against the "majority," meaning the "cis-white males" demographic for example that especially more recently, has been occurring.
I was with him up until he started vaguely defending Trump. Kinda pulled me out of the video. Does prove one thing, though: he was right about getting a higher dislike ratio if you discuss politics in your vid.
@Juh Yes, some groups have small amounts of radicalism in them. However continually attacking them by using your sharp vocabulary against them doesn't help anyone at all. We all need to stop fighting and work to solve the current problems in society. The right needs to realise what SJW's are actually trying to do instead of thinking of them as misadraists which a lot of them are not. The left needs to realise that calling the right "facist" "racist" "sexist" isn't going to help anybody at all, and if they are to call someone one of these words than they should justify and reason instead of hitting and running. The right will only understand the left's problems if the left calms down which is suprisingly starting to happen on small parts on youtube with many leftist channels oppening up to explain what is going on.
@quantum. We got 2 different views of an SJW, because I dknt believe every single leftist is like this, but I do know there are a lot of radicals here and they do fit the description. I dont know why they concentrated in portland, but it's unfortunate for us. I dont got anything against 'real SJWs', although I wouldn't call them an SJW since around here thats an insult.
@Garfield the Cat "random points" really? The video is about removing dislikes.
"Childish and politically charged insults" which one exactly? Also the difference between "looks like..." and "you are..."
"You're one of those..." no im not. I find it nonsensical that your reasoning for disliking the vid includes him "using a dead meme".
"Fucking normies" wasnt directed at you but ok
Browsing 4chan doesnt qualify you for deciding who is a tryhard.
Also i mentioned trump because there was some other guy in the comments saying he agreed until emp "defended" trump. Not unusual that a lot of them do that. I didnt call you a "trump hater".
Fun fact: Youtube's going to disable dislikes on ALL videos. Thanks, Dan. And Disney. And CNN. And Jimmy Kimmel. And basically all other big corporations, including YouTube themselves.
To put it shortly: Try imagining YouTube without a system to make your feedback/backlash known to creators, or no rating system at all in general.
Are we starting to value it yet?, I know I am. EDIT: Exactly why I would LOVE more critical viewpoints/opinions on my stuff than good, sugarcoated comments :3
Well you and I don't know for sure, yes the evidance links up but the thing no one knows what goes on behind the windows of youtube's headquaters so we can only leave this idea as a theory.
@tristan the oofer 2 the neutral option is pretty pointless honestly. It would carry the same weight as a person who didn't liked or disliked the video
Did the persons who disliked this video (about dislikes) did so, not because they really disliked this video, but because just for the opportunity to do so?
1. Among Us when youre the imposter 2. playing the piano and accidentally composing something nice 3. blue cheese in a double beef burger 4. orange triangles, theyre just neat 5. the perfect cell OST 6. watching golf when eating fancy food 7. dancing when a football team I dont like loses 8. bowling but throwing the ball instread of rolling it 9. watching tv on a sunday morning with a glas of milk and cookies 10. the noise of a fan at night
im too damn lazy to save videos into watch lists i made for them. i wish there was a little button that would automatically save anything you enjoyed into an accessible list so you can rewatch those videos.
WOW, LIKES DO THAT. so when i give a video a like, that doesn't mean i liked it, it means i liked it enough to watch it again.
The only big instance of a dislike mob I can remember is when Leafy would target small creators and so would his fans on 2 separate occasions. But that’s not even a dislike mob. That was a case of targeted cyber bullying and public harassment that spiraled out of control, which is even worse than a dislike mob
I very highly doubt anyone’s going to see this, also, I’m not a professional, I’m not super smart, but I can see a possible reason for disabling dislikes, but it wouldn’t be the sort of reason YouTube would remove them. I think that having both likes and dislikes can get you stuck in a bit of a content loop, making content specifically to please a crowd, which causes YouTube to recommend your content more, and if you decide to make your income off of YouTube, then, at least from the way I see it, you’d need to keep making similar content just to please the algorithm, and keep your source of income. Basically what I’m arguing (I’m bad at trying to get my thoughts out coherently, so sorry about that) is that the whole system with likes and dislikes, and the whole of YouTube as a whole isn’t really a great thing. So teah, that was me trying to explain my views relatively incoherently, thanks for reading, happy to try elaborate on anything.
I impulse dislike sometimes. I can like (and/or agree with) the whole video, but if there's just a single moment that's too annoying or stupid I'll just go for that button. For example, in some of you videos the audio levels can be very fluctuating and if there's a loud sound effect all of a sudden (especially meme like volumes where it gets distorted), that's almost a guaranteed dislike from me :x Also if people take too long with their intro stuff and advertising their podcast that has already been cancelled two months ago or something like that
I feel like this is the sort of stuff that lets people say dislikes aren't useful, because disliking a whole video for one mistake or minor infraction is just pointless imo. Use the comments for that.
as a person who dislikes a ton of videos, I can say the reason I think its absolutely necessary to have a dislike button is, when someone dislikes a video, that's them telling the algorithm "yo, don't suggest content like this to me, I don't like stuff like this", which allows me to clear my recommended from a lot of the garbage content youtube force recommends down my throat.
I think what a ton of people get wrong is that the dislikes themselves don’t affect a video’s performance, but rather the amount of them compared to likes. I’ve never seen a video with a ratio less than 50% ever show up in my recommended feed.
I always thought it was a big mistake for people to Dislike a video based on disagreeing with the view presented. You should be judging whether the video: 1. Lives up to what the title advertises. 2. Is a good quality video for the people who are interested in that video title.
Because you’re performing the function of rating videos for the benefit of future potential viewers. Disliking a video that delivers on its title and is well produced, is utterly pointless if not counterproductive.
I am someone who obsessively, ALWAYS rates EVERYTHING. I Like or Dislike almost every comment I read. I always vote on websites with article ratings. I’m the guy who goes down an Instagram post and Likes every comment I agree with, just because. I almost NEVER miss rating a YouTube video, partly because of my duty/obligation to future viewers, but also as a “breadcrumb” to remind myself at a future date that I’ve seen the video before.
Nevertheless, I RARELY ever dislike any videos!! Only if the title is an utter bullshit LIE to deceive viewers into clicking, where they’ll all be subsequently disappointed, or if a video is somebody else’s and they’re just reuploading another copy of it, but their version is worse than the original or worse than other copies. Because obviously nobody wants to watch a shit version of a great video.
Or if a video does something egregiously disrespectful to the viewer like purposely blasting loud noises during a segment of whispering as some kind of juvenile prank.
Otherwise 99% of the time, I either Like, or don’t rate the video if it’s just something I’m not interested in, because I neither want to punish nor reward the creator.
I saw the dislikes on this video and assumed I'd get to write a funny comment about the dislike mob. Instead I was greeted with someone who has thought about this enough to where there so sick of it and can't make the argument without making the people he's trying to convince mad. Like gay people who've gotten so sick of having to justify their existence to people that they just make fun of them and leave (somebody advise me on how to rephrase that nicer, because I do mean it in a nice way)
I always thought hitting like would tell their recommender to give me more like this and dislike would say to knock that shit off. How is Youtube going to know what I like and what I don't now?
3:48User criticism can be supplemented by the comment section, making dislikes redundant. - If that is indeed their claim, not only is it preposterous, but it's disingenuously preposterous because they know better than to make that claim. However, is that really what they claimed?
if youtube keeps track of retention time, to avoid dislike mobs from clicking dislikr without seeing the video they could just only count the likes/dislikes of users who have more than 50% retention time? problem solved??
Looking a these comments, 3 months later and there's still dislikes, lol. I've heard they've removed them from a very minimal amount of videos, but every video I've been watching lately has dislikes.
10:50 Well oftentimes it is the alt right. Nutty socially conservative videos don't get downvoted anywhere near as much as nutty socially liberal videos. Almost any time a new video is uploaded containing the phrase alt right (and the alt right didn't make the video or the word hate) then the dislikes will pile up fast. 15:29 See? Bolsonaro is a rightwing populist and that's the video that got the highest ratio of dislikes.
I was sitting here, wondering why I don't find content like this in the Japanese YouTube space than I realized it's because this is primarily a world issue, Japan is the most free out of all the Asian countries whenever you compare themselves to the Chinese government and north Korea specifically.
Though perhaps it's because that's not popular to express such a thing within the current cultural climate Japan is in these current years. I'm only an American, I cannot say anything culturally significant about another country that I don't even live in, it's not the citizens I dislike, it's the government that I disagree with purely. That's all I can provide as someone foreign to Asian cultures.
I love how the people who disagree with this DISLIKED the video. (IK not all people disliked it because they disagreed with the message or content, but a good amount likely did)
Wow! The Youtube like and dislike function is binary? If only we had more options! Like, for example, what if we had five? Nah, that's crazy, Youtube has and always will have 2 or less options. Always. All of the time.
Youtube dislikes are not a measure of objective quality. Youtube Rewind 2018 was horribly disliked and probably cost them millions. in fact, do you think that contributed to them thinking dislikes are bad? Because they were used against them?
Viewing a video may make you look at a ad first, so the creator gets a little bit of money. And commenting something like "i don't like this video because of uga bunga" will literally just make the video more popular and you'll probably get harrassed
Also a example of this is: Not liking a broom you bought, and going out in the streets like " HEY! THIS BROOM HELPED ME CLEAN MY ENTIRE HOUSE BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE IT, GET IT NOW!" And somehow making people be interested
ahahahahahahahahaha hey uh youtube’s new Shorts feature, tailored towards phones and looks like tiktok, does not show dislike counts. Also, this Stories feature which i know fairly nothing about, does not actually let you dislike.
Uh oh! They presented me with a little survey thing: "What do you dislike most about comments on YouTube?" They permit me to answer in 6 ways: Comments lack two-way discussion Comments are repetitive Too many rude or hateful comments People who comment are not credible Comments are not informative Other there is no option to say I like comments.
Im afraid that, with the title like that, people will click just to dislike because "haha funny" and actually make this video/ opinion seem controversial.
It's basically when removing dislikes is like Lenin the all in favor j.k his only fans the majority which is our minority while the minority is the majority part in russian revolution oversimplified.
oh yea....it's starting baby! I called this when I first saw his wavedash and boy was I correct. Now the only thing left is for kazuya to conquer smash ultimate and destroy it's roster balance and it will be brawl and smash 4 all over again baby. I can't wait
Removing dislikes is just a horrible idea. If a video has a huge amount of dislikes it tells the viewer "hey, somethings wrong here" ever came across those videos that claim to know how to hack a game but are actually just scams? Those always had a ton of dislikes, that's something that could very easily save the viewer from getting scammed.
I've had a 12% rating on a video of my cat because some kid made a dislike mob on the video. I mean they shared the link with their friends and told them to dislike the video. I've since unlisted the video.
I was kinda weirded out recently cause while i got my original perception of who Dan Olson was from you..... I then saw Dan in some of Hbomberguy's video insulting even worse people and then I realized that Despite Dan's feelings towards Dislikes (most likely brought on from actual right wing hate mobs hounding him) he's still a better youtuber than you let on to be
@Faboolean I'll take something funny I can come back to whenever I want over seasonal YouTube drama that might not even be relevant later. Takes more talent to make a YouTube poop too, anyone with a mic and something to complain about can make a video essay
Tim pool was great on jre and I subbed to his YT channel because of that. However, I found his videos to be less about helping viewers understand issues in a nonbiased format and more about feeding the machine of outrage culture to exploit views. Maybe I find hyperfocused political commentary tedious as a whole...
8:06 I don’t entirely agree with this because having to adjust your opinion to the audience because of dislikes isn’t a good thing. However I do agree they’re needed if it’s an opinion that causes harm to people, or the video is just outright vile. ex: The Logan Paul forest video. It had a real half-assed anti suicide speech.
You want to get rid of dislikes... okay you can do that no go right a head, then you'll have to get rid of likes too, cant have one with out the other. You cant jusy have it good all the time, got to have bad too. Top of all that people will just say "dislike" in the comments, or worse. I get people do things like disliking something before they see it or try it which i have done, but thats our right to do that.
I don't know if it's just me but I sometimes use the like button solely for bookmarking/saving purposes. So this way it's easier to find the video if I have to search for it.
That's honestly the whole reason why i use the like button (as well as why i rarely leave likes), since YouTube completely removed the "Add to Favourites" feature.
All YouTube playlists have a 5k limit, how can you possibly come back to the older videos conveniently when they're past the limit? It sucks! I liked OP's comment, btw, I don't want to get strawmanned.
@Gelatinocyte it was aimed at OP, but I also find it odd that so many commenters don't seem to know or care about the "watch later" feature. I use it all the time and just use the "like" button for videos I actually like so the algorithm feeds me better suggestions.
Watch later is my save forever playlist. And youtube occasionally shoves watch later in your face, so I exploit it for comfort memories - how convenient.
I've personally never used the dislike button, however, I realize what their significance is. The Ghstbusters 2016 trailer would look very different without it
Tbh with topics like gamergate, likes/dislikes are completely useless. People hit dislike without even watching the video. That's why the option to disable likes/dislikes is good on some videos.
I hate gamergate too but fucking no. The people that hit dislike without thinking don't need to be regulated against, people that don't like dislike mobs can turn off ratings, but dislikes are important to fight off shit like scams, malicious "tutorials", and dumbass capitalist corporate decisions, getting rid of dislikes because of dislike mobs does bad, and doesn't do ANY good, targeted hate mobs will find other ways to attack creators, they won't just give up.
I'm a leftist, and to an extent a lot of the ideas in the rewind are rather fabricated, yes I support diversity(and other forms of social justice), what I don't support is large corporations including diversity(and social justice) for the only purpose of improving brand image. So my outlook: Fuck the corporations, Support social justice.
@Bio-error 1d10t: User unable to create name. I mean, technically the 0th star is just a shattered star, so you could theoretically count it as a negative.
@MiX3K Or have stars ranging from red, then up through the yellows and white-greens, then blue, and for the highest ranking, indigo-lavender. Like real stars. Have another one with black holes (basically for saying "this sucks) That would work great, but I think it might confuse some people, so it should probably be used on an astronomy forum instead or something.
Google and censorship go hand in hand, give em the least amount of leverage and they’ll make the most out of it. I really wish I would’ve appreciated YouTube when it was great.
Welp, now they're experimenting with only letting creators see dislikes, because like 1.5 creators whined about seeing dislikes. Beautiful logic. Plus, the "Disable Likes and Dislikes" feature already exists!
Sometimes YouTube will change something that irks me. They have made the likes and dislikes white and black now, and moved the comments, which are kind of annoying. When they added double ads, that also was annoying but truthfully I won’t be up in arms about it.
But now that they are actually implementing this in an experimental way is a terrible idea. That would legitimately frustrate me, but I can’t do a whole lot to convince them since they don’t listen to people. There is a reason why people hate the Facebook and Twitter rating systems, because removing dislike is the dumbest possible idea you can have for a platform.
"I, for one, welcome our insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a Youtube personality, I can help in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
So that's (one of the reasons) why YouTube recommends new Folding Ideas over old ones, his latest popular video has the ratings on. No dislike mobs there either. YouTube wants engagement, it doesn't care how.
Not only is removing dislikes a bad thing because of no other way to check for the agreements of a video, it will deliberately demolish the goal of Neutral Response.
I do imagine this is a bad thing that will happen, but then again in another video from this channel, (youtube vs viacom) he specified at the start that youtubers generally adapt to any new guidelines or design changes and everything basically stays the same...
Everything continues to become worse, yet nothing ever hits the critical failure point where they'd have to actually try to fix problems to make the website work again...
@Michael Vogel If you go on mobile, and go to youtube shorts, it only shows you likes but not dislikes. People usually complain and then forget about these changes quickly though.
One thing i dont understand and nobody ever brings this up Is why do comments have a dislike option Why do they have a dislike option Its been there since I started coming on youtube in 2014 or so, and its always been there with no dislikes shown, yet nothing's been done with them
Arguably the video already provides enough information that a 2nd video could likely just lead to repeating the same things just with more recent events to work with
Surprisingly, i enjoyed this video. I actually am a big fan of Dan's content and content creators like him. I do wish he showed his ratings, though, i didn't know he was entirely against dislikes because I have no social media, only Youtube and he never seemed to mention it on his youtube. But honestly, this dislike to like ratio is goofy. It doesn't matter if they go away or not because, like you said Emp, they will always be there. I think dislikes are good because if someone disagrees with you they can slap the dislike button and feel like they did something; like they deflated your entire argument! My only criticism of your video is that you kinda just say stuff. I wish you showed actually studies and hard evidence rather than graphs you made. You also seem to target exclusively liberal audiences. You might see me as "liberal" because I said i liked Dan's content, but trust me, I dislike liberals.
Also, you definitely did cherry pick on who gets dislikes. When you mentioned the whole Leafy and iDubbbz debacle and how iDubbbz shooed Leafy, you ignored all the kids and other people Leafy targeted who definitely had a smaller following that him.
Youtube is really smart,destroying free speech so every shit content creator can walk around bragging on how many likes they got and how nobody hates em
@GameMaker 3_5 I don't wanna have Twitter though it's 90% too toxic^^ Youtube Comments might be Toxic aswell but I stuck here long enough to handle it. Not with Twitter though
What, why do people say dislikes are removed...I still see dislikes (with a blue bar under it) ... living in Germany. Hope it is just A/B testing and they will come to the conclusion that dislikes should stay!
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In summary: Small creators can't get hurt by dislike mobs, because dislike mobs are not that relevant. Proof: The most hated videos of all time are not made by small creators but are more like public fuck ups.
I suppose, it could be argued that emp's view on the colour change of the ratings bar is rather nitpicky as it could be a more softer aesthetic change to suit the colours surrounding the website.
If dislikes inhibit a video's growth by impacting the algorithm, whose fault is that? Youtube's. They act like the algorithm is a runaway droid that they have no ability to improve.
I will say, as devil's advocate, that I find the constant dislikes on totally harmless and high-quality videos to be extremely annoying. Dislike brigades are a thing, it's just that they're not necessarily organized; they exist as opponents of a particular content creator, like an anti-fan club, who make a point to dislike the video no matter what.
On some videos, you might see comments saying "this 10 minute video has been up for 1 minute and there is already a dislike" or comments like it, which express incredulity at the impulse to insult someone's work. It shows you the troll mentality that good people have to put up with.
I will say that you really adjusted my opinion with this video though and I do think, primarily for the use of anti-corporate defense, that dislikes should be maintained.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the dislikes on this video are symbolic, as in the people who agree that the dislike should exist disliked the video, as a bit of a joke.
@Jack B No. I disliked it because of how EmpLemon pushed way too much political stuff into the video. Even thought I think I have a very similar political view as Emp, the politcal "jokes" made the video less enjoyable. I also didn't like how much he attacked the other content creator who disabled his likes & dislikes. EmpLemon went a bit overboard, I think.
@ian silent I agree that the way he overly "attacked" other creators and pushed some of his thoughts was uncalled for, but for me personally I would use the dislike only if I disagreed with the general message of the video.
If they remove dislikes, creators won't find out what their audience thinks is not okay to them. Future audiences won't see how others who watched the video liked it. Dislikes is also an faster alternative to leaving a "hate" comment that might get removed or won't be taken seriously.
One of my videos that I spent a lot of time on talks about a controversial event in history, problem was that it got disliked bombed in the first few days. No comments apart from some of my fans saying whatever, they just disliked it. So I thought it was unjustified because I spend time on videos and people just trash on it because they can do it. I remove ratings for about a week, I take them off and all the dislikes are gone.
I don't even know anymore if I either got a dislike mob that just later removed the dislikes, or somehow I was able to remove the dislikes, I want to hear criticism from people, but the fact of the matter is if nobody gives you any and just dislikes, it can't really be seen as controversial and just trolling and ruining a possible reputation.
KEEN ON THE NEXT VIDEO NOT GONNA LIE, idk why my caps was on, meh, love your work emp, loved it in the YTP days and still love what it has evolved into today, keep it up. peace.
They'll remove dislikes the same way FB did, and then at some point no one will care. I think it's bad to not have dislike buttons, but you'll all get over it eventually like FB.
PS : This is disputed video rating at 90% approximately.
I don't find that a compelling argument. I could get over the loss of a limb with time but having all of my limbs is still objectively better. Also, I left facebook years ago so I suppose I didn't get over that site becoming more annoying than useful.
@Ave, True To Caesar! cherrypicking the first result on google says FB has 15 million(!) fewer US users since 2017. I guess even normies who don't know psychological experiments are being carried out on them know when they've had enough.
@Augustus Bohn This isnt an argument. I'm saying the masses are being lulled. I'm not defending FB. Also nobody uses FB to post on it blog style anymore, it's either commercial entities or Messenger. I've abandonned my feed completely and unfollowed everyone. I dont care what happens in your life unless you're a close relative.
Point the video makes is that removing dislikes doesnt benefit creators, but does benefit corporations. Now guess which one of those Susan doesnt give a shit about?
The hard R word doesn't mean black people, its a broad term for being ignorant. Pewdiepie didn't know if that guy was black or not so he was just using it in its proper form. Any word could have been said on that bridge. Educate yourself fools.
i dont get why that “the best men can be” got such a bad ratio, it was a good video with a very positive point. it was just pointing out common issues with men like sexual assault and the stigma that so many have against women that exist in this world
As someone who has been on YouTube for almost a decade (Since 2011, I had a different account than the one I'm using,) I find dislikes completely irrelevant to a video I'm watching unless around 50% or more in comparison to the likes. That usually means the video or creator is getting some serious flak and a red flag. Anything less isn't a hate mob, and couldn't matter less
Okay but I would just love if it prompted you to explain why you disliked it, because when I get a dislike I think "well I fucked up, but where?", I'd just be useful to have something that shows why it was disliked ya'know?
I use Instagram and oh god do I wish they had a dislike/downvote button sometimes. You are absolutely right about people hitting dislike not because of the quality of the video but because they disagree with its message, and I increasingly feel Instagram desperately needs something like this so I can simply hit dislike if I see something cringy and/or offensive, rather than writing a comment and risking starting a war in the comments section. But unfortunately that will probably never happen on Instagram, because most of its users are insecure teenagers who don't wanna have their self esteem ruined if even one person hits dislike on their post.
Maybe they can make it so the dislike button only exists for public accounts. Like you said, when you put yourself out in the open there's always gonna be at least someone who's gonna hate. And this would also probably incentivize IG's younger/more sensitive users to keep their accounts private.
Evidence that at least 1% of viewers are practically guaranteed to dislike a video: Cute puppy videos. How could anyone dislike a cute puppy video? They're so fluffy and adorable. The first five results I found on YT each had at least 1k dislikes. Dislikes are just a part of the game.
The problem with likes and dislikes is that if you're getting dislikes, that still means that you're engaging people albeit in a negative way. If you're getting either, it should be a mark of quality since non-quality content are obscure. Heavily disliked content is just controversial and there's good reason to promote controversial ideas just as well as non-controversial ideas.
A better indication of quality would be the sum of likes and dislikes divided by views. So if you get a lot of views, but few likes or dislikes - then your video is probably pretty low quality.
The people who'd support removing dislikes don't know why people find it weird to ever have them disabled on videos in the first place: it's a shine of cowardice. Why should anyone take your content seriously if you remove the ability to even criticize it? This is so dumb, thinking dislikes hurt you is expecting to fail and have backlash so huge that you put Rewind 2018 to shame. If your video isn't horrible, then the dislikes won't be bad: if they are that bad then it's not the viewers: it's you.
I noticed your video falls into "controversial" tier. Given the topic, I just cannot image why! P.S. I admire your ability to admit that your were internally writing off some of your criticism as fanboyism. We all need to be willing and able to simply own up to ourselves and our sins.
Interestingly, the YouTube comment dislikes actually work... kinda. If you've gone to videos from small-medium channels with less than 1000 comments, you can scroll down and eventually the comment will go from positive/funny to controversial or trolling. It seems disliking comments work, you just can't see how much dislikes a comment has.
March 2020: This video has 68,829 Likes, and 9,400 Dislikes for a total of 78,229 Votes. Dividing the Likes by the Total gives us about an 88% Approval Rating, which lands this video right into the "Controversial Tier". Considering that this video is about a topic that's apparently divisive (according to the video itself), that makes a lot of sense.
So the people who want dislikes to be gone are the same people who disliked the video and the same people who want dislikes to stay are liking the video edit: well shit
You know the crazy part about it, is that I can’t remember the last time I have EVER DISLIKED. A video. I think the last time I did was in middle school. Ok correction I think I did early last year but the point is it’s extremely rare Because if I usually don’t find something interesting or I don’t like it I just leave which I’m sure most of you do. Unless it’s music which I can I understand dislikes on those vids or movies. But The only time I dislike something is if it’s offending as hell disrespectful or just plane wrong. But usually don’t come across that stuff. Because that stuff would probably be flagged and token down by YouTube anyways. So I never understood why the dislikes so many in fact on pretty much almost EVERY VIDEO I ever see. Even on seemingly harmless vids of cute babies or cute cats or good acts of people or whatever wholesome, just anything sweet of that nature. I just always felt it was some sort of mob just going around disliking shit for no reason. I always find my self saying WHO COULD DISLIKE THIS!???
I never dislike and rarely like videos, I mostly like videos just to simply save it because its faster then adding to a playlist. I don't expect anyone over 16 to like videos frequently or even pay attention to the links or dislike ratio. What is the point of the viewer looking at it?
The whole removing dislikes thing is based on the idea that any negativity is bad and the idea that corporations being put down is bad. Which is a horrible, horrible fallacy.
And then there's IGN's review of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers which is at like 90% dislikes. It's important to leave these dislikes up or else people might think it's actually a decent review.
Great video. Great points! (No sarcasm. No shade.)
But, I don't think you should hold people back because they want to disable things in their channels or videos. Or, hide their sub count from the public. They have their reasons and that pertains to their choices. Not yours. Respect. And, if they want the dislike button removed, that's ok too. That's their prerogative.
Even if I got a billion dislikes and lost trillions of subs I refuse to change myself to please strangers that I don't know, nor care about me personally. Or, because they don't agree with what I post. I'm going to do what I think is right and stay true to my beliefs and actions.
I don't care if the dislike button is removed or not. I believe in freedom of speech and choice. But, it's sad how social media controls how we think, feel, decide, and choose. It's a flock of sheep. I'm not going to rule out there are people disliking videos without actually watching the video or because they're influenced to do so by looking at the rating meter. Yes. Dislikes can be hurtful or helpful. But. This is kind of bias and makes the channel owner feel horrible about themselves.
Youtube wants to remove the dislike button? Cool. It's their website, their business. You don't like a video then just ghost it and move on.
I revisited the video, like I do with all Emp videos just to enjoy it again. I went to click the like button, but to my surprise I hit the dislike button at the time the video came out. I laughed to myself, knowing that I did so as an act of support for the dislike button
There is no better demonstration of how fundamentally dishonest Google is as a company than the claim about people being able to show their dissatisfaction through comments. Any person or company that has ever handled a fraction of the data Google processes every minute knows that surveys are far more efficient when they only use multiple choice options, because that data can be processed quickly and automatically to give results.
This is just me but I don’t like videos if I think they are average I just watch them and leave. I like videos that are good, ignore videos that are meh, and dislike videos that are bad.
The problem is it's not a good or bad thing. I often dislike videos for small little things because the creator needs some kind of indication that isn't hate comments that something is wrong.
Stop telling people to like your videos, let them hit that button if they feel like it. It's the same shit with tips, I'm not your boss I'm not responsible for you to get paid. Don't like it? Talk to your boss not me. I barely can afford to go to your restaurant yet you still want me to pay your employees for doing their fucking job? Because they didn't fuck up? Oh boo hoo you can't talk to your boss that way.
I have 100% likes on my channel. Granted, I have fewer than 10 vids with fewer than 200 views between them. But 100% though.... yayyyyy
As a user, I don't tend to use dislikes, I just click away. I do tend to leave a comment if I think the video just needs work or to do something different.
As a creator, I'd value comments to improve my content. I was always under the impression that likes/dislikes are just counted equally as 'engagement'. Nothing but a tool for the user to feel like they're making a point.
I'm not a very savvy person with this stuff, though.
i studdy consperasies and sutch as a hobby, and when it comes to consperacy theories in real life, like the rusia colusion or stolen ellection over in america, it anoyed me when evryone is acusing someone of a colusion and consperacy when what most likely happend was a case of Emergent behavior. Aka, instead of someone hiding in the shadows forcefully manipulated the masses to do something, the outcome was the resoult of the masses doing what was in their favor. sorry the clunky explonation, but lets say there is a gathering of fish, instead of thinking all the fish have come to that place in the pond because of a shadow organisaation of fish has all ordered them there, prehaps there is a piece of bread floating in the water, and all the fish want that water.
I mean a "Dislike mob" could send negative signals not through the ratings, but the average watch time. But still not a valid reason to remove a means of communication your satisfaction or lack thereof.
I disliked your video and watched the entire thing, no offense just living up the nostolgia before it goes away. :) HOPE IT DOESN'T, that's ridiculous.
Actually the Star rating systeme was better dislike and like is too binary there are plenty of video that i neither like or dislike sometime i agree with the message but not its delivery a 3.5....
One last bit. I wouldn't know anything a about being an "uninformed knuckle head spewing opinions". It's not like I just I just say things in the heat of the moment, like here, or towards Nico Evaulates. I don't just accuse people of things without gathering information, or leave comments everywhere. I just not that kind of person.
Dislikes are not counted accurately. Once I was in a heated comment argument and the other guy had 10 accounts all watch 10 seconds of my low view videos then hit dislike. After several hours all the dislikes were automatically removed.
Bruh, I just dislike videos when I don't like it. Like if the format is not one I enjoy, or if it's a topic I don't care about. I use it to tell youtube what to recommend and it works better than the "not interested".
When someone disables ratings and sometimes comments, it either means that the person can't take any critique at all or you're watching a 3D rendered demonstraion of how a mechanical gear system works.
Seriously, when somenone disables the ratings, it means that they don't want a reaction on what they just uploaded. This is a serious red flag. It's worse than starting a discussion and completely ignoring whatever the other side says. It's more like starting a discussion and taping everyones mouth shut exept for your own so the viewers can neither agree nor disagree.
They make thi whole dislike mob idea out to be this horrible thing, but mate has you ever heard of a like mob. And even if there was a dislike mob it would not even matter because youtube has essentially made the rating system obsolete and these mobs are using it for the very thing it was made for, without a dislike we left with just a number to go up, there need to be a balance.
My channel is a Dislike Heaven lol. I expose Tyrants so you can see how that will reflect my channel. I see what you mean about the dislike, but it is used to just go after a person. My videos will get a bunch of dislikes with a 2 second watch time. They just come on, dislike and leave. Is that fair? I think a dislike should be recorded after the video is watched over 50 percent of the video. That helps both parties and you get a better opinion on the content quality.
3:48 until they deem comments section as "inadequate for criticism" but think that shadow banning isn't good enough
Then they'll demand you make your own video responses... until they deem videos as "inadequate for criticism" and keep Youtube as a gated community to corporations and celebrities
Terrible idea. What if I just want to save the video to my liked playlist. What if the video is just funny or very interesting and there isn't much to say about it. What's to stop me from just typing "PENIS" or some other nonsense and leaving. What if the video is a scam and leaving a dislike explanation is literally a waste of time. Why would I take time out of my day to explain why you suck when there's probably already someone in the comments telling you exactly why. It's your job to engage with your audience and find out how to improve, not your audience. You get paid and we don't, so don't expect us to wipe your ass for you and don't expect us to do redundant labor with no pay.
i'm really unsure if i should give you a like, to simply praise you or to give you a dislike to confirm your point...
PS: your talking about ratings seems to solely cover videos which talk about topics and not videos like short fictional stories. like more meta-content than fictional just-content. and i think that's a bit too generalizing.
Or 10% up to 5 minutes, so on a 15 minute video, you would have to watch 90 seconds, but on a 2 hour video you would only have to watch 5 minutes because the max is 5 minutes.
It might be easier to give dislikes a weight depending on how much the user has watched. Someone watches only 3 seconds before disliking? they only left 0.01 dislike as a result.
This is like when Netflix removed the dislike button because all the gay shows, political comedians, and feminists kept getting one star. It's just a way to make people feel isolated in their view point. So, for example, you instead believe a gay show is made because everyone is on board with it rather than some media mogul deciding you should be on board with it.
I regularly dislike videos from creators I enjoy, and I've done it to you. Mostly because FunHaus said dislikes ironically up their engagement; but also one dislike in my mind hopefully means a minor spike from like-minded individuals that a creator notices and realizes something was disliked but not controversial. On the other hand, Game Grumps said they weren't looking at comments/likes anymore around the time they kept reusing some irritating jokes and when I found myself disliking nearly every video without a change I just unsubscribed. Considering how easy it is to get 90%+ likes, you don't even need a thick skin like you do for comments, and legitimate criticism gets buried quickly. I "like" that you noticed a 90% like ratio is fine but means something was off within the video, meaning only people who actually watched are enough to dislike beyond the usual instant dislikes of 2-3%. It means reflect on the video or scroll through the comments, ignoring and finding it persists is going to lead to some lost subscribers eventually, like every vinetuber that's suddenly losing subs after multiples videos about how they don't listen to criticism.
without a ranking system, everyone would just go fucking bonkers. Both the like and dislike feature, help people vocalize their thoughts in a simple compact way, instead of going bananas on a post.
I usually figure the lowest common denominator for likes/dislikes Like this video (currently) has 8/1 like/dislike ratio, which is kinda bad. Most music videos with 1+ Mil views average a 25/1, and very well received videos have 100/1. At least to my brain this is an easier way to look at it
Disliking comments seems to do completely nothing. I think it's reasonable to at least remove the dislike option for the comments since YouTube defenetly won't make those dislikes visible. On the other hand, removing dislikes from one part of the platform can lead to removal of all dislikes, which will make it harder to judge the legitimacy of a video's popularity.
There's also the Kudo's system on the website Dumpert. It functions similarly to Reddit's upvote system, but it doesn't negatively effect it's presence in the algorithm, because there is none
I think we should go back to the star scale. There’s a number of videos where I have had a mixed opinion on them, and a like or dislike didn’t really allow me to properly express that.
So I have been having this ongoing discussion about freedom of speech with a very politically ambitious friend of mine who remains convinced that it should be restricted to essentially exclude what we might refer to as "ideas that are virtually universally understood as bad" simply because the expression of these views by a tiny minority is still, somehow, incentivizing people to carry out the tenets of said ideas. He has yet to give me a satisfying answer as to where he thinks that tiny of fraction of unhinged individuals will go, and how they will be rendered harmless, by simply outlawing their wrong thoughts.
Shutting up a critic doesn't cancel out their criticism. Whatever is wrong with what you did will remain wrong. Voting Trump out of office isn't going to make 45% of Americans that support him go away. A lie will remain a lie.
I feel like you kept taking about Dan Olson a little much but I really liked you bringing up the other social media platforms to explain that people still want to express dislikes. Really proves that at least Youtube needs dislikes and probably any other social media platform.
Big Rat2020-10-01 20:03:40 (edited 2020-10-01 20:07:38 )
I wholeheartedly agree, dislikes are a way for people to tell the content creator to what works and what doesn't. Removing them just makes them hate you more, and would likely make you lose subs, rather than just getting an unpopular video
I remember one up and coming youtuber that made videos about movies and tv shows. One day they posted a video begging to not vote for Trump. A nearly 30 minute rant where the comment section and the likes/dislikes were disabled. If you are that scared why even make the video? They stopped making videos like a month later.
Thanks for the awesome video. I watched a Mr.Beast video where he shows disliking can actually increase visibility of your video. It was a small experiment but it was interesting.
The irony is that clicking like or dislike is still engagement to the algorithm and is treated the same way regardless of what you pick. Videos with higher engagement will get pushed over things that don't have engagement. Also this comment will get buried because I don't have any subs and if someone you are subbed to comments on this video it will rate higher then my comment and get shown first. Everything gets filtered by engagement. Well weighed and filtered. Watching hole ad, watching hole video, liking near the end of the video over liking at the start, commenting at the end of the video. Some things weigh higher like watching hole ad vs hole video but they all add up to give a score that is balanced between other content you have watched. the more content you engage in the more of the same content with the same score will be recommended to you. It wayy more complicated then that but you get the point. this is a dead comment.
the thing is that in a perfect world the star system would still be there but sadly trolls and haters are still a thing.
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Charles Reischer2020-07-11 00:58:36 (edited 2020-07-11 00:58:41 )
As someone unfamiliar with your channel, I am having trouble telling if you are supporting a political party, or using that ironically for comedic purpose
I like the overall message of this video. But as my sincere and unfiltered criticism, I want to say that I didn't appreciate this part of the video which was obnoxiously loud at 22:15, hence I shall dispense a dislike.
Not exactly a defense, but the guy is a former YTP. So expect some earrapes on his videos (the exceptions of course are his more documentary videos, i.e never ever or YouTube geography)
I like how the dan olson example video is a movie review. A critic of a piece of entertainment. Wouldn't it be crazy if you weren't able to critic something?
Why not just, have people watch the videos for X amount of minutes and THEN they can dislike or like, This setting can be used by youtubers and change the amount of time in Youtube Studio, atleast then they can set it for the entire length of a video or 10 minutes (for that sweet ad rev) this is just one idea that might work if implemented work
Some video that I watched had ratings off, and when people brought it up in the comments, the person was like "hurr durr you have to why you dislike it instead of just disliking it." Which I thought was confusing. Aren't dislikes made in tandem with talking about what was wrong?
If you are so afraid of dislike mobs, you shouldn't publish your work. Also if the algorithm don't suggests your video if it is disliked, there is a simple solution: change the algorithm to suggest the video to people with opposite tastes from the people who disliked
i don't dislike a lot of videos, - um, sorry, sometimes i forget to like 'em too- but when someone shuts down their comment section it's my policy to dislike them. i don't know why anyone care about these so-called dislike mobs. you have to click something before you can dislike it. they still get the clicks. those probably matter more
Am I like only person who doesn’t look at the like to dislike Ratio when I click on a video I mean I believe it’s very important to have the dislike button but I never really use either of them
although, if the replies have more likes than the original comment, that's a pretty good way of determining how much people hate it. although i would prefer a way to dislike comments without having to reply.
Which Emp am I supposed to be looking at on that news screen? I see a few sitting behind the desk, one of them holding "teh news". But the Emp mic on the desk is pointed at the Emp in the middle behind the desk. Help.
You sound like a reactionary. Disliked : ) although I don't care if we have dislikes or not I think dan olsen is right that there is a lot of cyber bullying that happens due to dislikes. But tbh that's not really limited to the like/dislike system
On Facebook, there is no dislike button, but you can use the laugh or angry reacc instead. You're not only telling OP that the post sucks, you're telling OP WHY it sucks, in a button press - not a bad system
I disagree, it's more more prone to misinterpretation. Say I react with a laughing emoji to a serious post. Does that mean I find it funny that someone is that dumb? Does it mean that I find the serious topic comical? Does that mean that I think it's funny coming from them? Now let's say someone made a different, equally as serious post and I reacted with an angry emoji. Does that mean I'm angry that this happened, that I'm angry at misinformation in the post, that I'm angry at the person who posted it for one reason or another? It's trying to be a mix of a comment system and a like system and fails miserably at both, because it fails to say anything actually meaningful or significant about the post. This could be fixed by, say, adding in a dislike emoji as well and letting people react with multiple emojis, as to better clarify what the general reaction is.
i came back and only have one problem with the video now, why did he not take out dan olsen's name and @? cause it might get people to get onto his twitter account and harass him, and people probably did
What about obliging those who dislike to write a comment as well? Put a 5-10 word minimum so that it's not just "Stupid." and let the creator know what kind of people are disliking their video and for what reason. Is it just a bad recommendation or an actual critique, something worth thinking over or not. Seems like a better solution to "unreasonable dislikes" than removing them entirely. Maybe do the same for likes to kinda make it fair (tho I don't see a problem with likes currently).
Mmmmm no? Most people don't have the will and the time to express their opinions and that's why likes and dislikes exist, it takes a second to like a video but it takes a couple of minutes to express your opinion through words on a comment, if you force people to do something most people won't even bother to think in doing it, this video has +630k and +5.9k comments, if something like that is mandatory this video would have probably just one thousand comments and likes/dislikes or even less, that's less people that will share their opinions = less people that watch the video because they can't express their opinions instantly = less people viewing videos on YouTube and less money for Google
Come back a year later and sure enough, the like bar no longer even blue and gray, they've made another bs change to black and white :/
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Rin Okumura2020-08-21 05:45:11 (edited 2020-08-21 05:52:59 )
I’m not hating but can you use different backgrounds? They are really full of neon colors and watching it hurts my eyes I don’t want to watch it because it’s to blaring and takes away the attention from the text to the background. I had to close my eyes threw out the video Edit: it got so mad it’s making me laugh by the abnormal colors and the huge usage of it
As a small content creator that doesn’t get a lot of likes or dislikes, does the tier list have the same value or should it be rebalanced for a smaller audience? (Sorry if this is confusing)
I don’t see why catering to your niche is a bad thing. If you’re not trying to do YouTube as a career, what’s the harm in sticking to content you like making? Sure, you won’t get as many viewers/subscribers, but choosing to cater to an ever-changing, ever-expanding audience is much more difficult than creating content you enjoy and attracting the viewers that enjoy watching such content.
Their saying that comments are comparable to like/dislike? I mean I guess you could stretch it that way but at the end of the day looking at two numbers vs reading 100 comments it’s a big time difference
i mean heck the dislikes for comments are already useless. the just do nothing. and it's not like on reddit where one downvote decreases the number of upvotes by one either, dislikes for comments just do nothing.
right now, dislikes on comments already do nothing, they dont count it as a number and it doesn't do a upvote downvote esc thing by counting as -1 either. Why is it even there?
4:04 they can avoid all these arguments by making the like to dislike ratio invisible until you actually press one of them. I mean I wouldn't mind that. it'd be interesting if everyone watched youtube videos in an unbiased approach.
Bit late, but what if you're looking up a bunch of tutorials and sifting through what's worth your time, you'd like to know what videos are worth watching and whether you should look at the comments to see why the video is disliked. Maybe it's a lack of knowledge or bad audio, maybe even a non-sequitor of a video. Who knows if the comments become disabled on a bad video? The ratings would be the only thing you'd have as reference at that point.
Usually most ratings disablers do so because they've been attacked and harrashed by a large mob and don't want any more damage. Its rather easy for emp lemon to stand from his place and say how mass hate and dislike is just normal, what he hasn't seen is the harashment upfront. One example is what 4-chan/right wing gamers did to Anita Sarkeesian, and its more that just people spamming "kys", there were several people who made bombing and shooting threats at venues she was planning to talk at and etc, one person threatened to start a shooting at their school if Anita Sarkeesian were to talk somewhere. All I want to say is that its not really nice of sympthatic to mock comments or ratings disablers as they may just be wanting to stop themselves from complete stress. Afterall you don't know what its like to have the whole internet after you.
@The Spanish Inquisition but do you really think it was just. I mean everyone complains about how much she wanted to "censor" everything yet the same people who said that went out of their way to censor her and any platform/public speaking she had. I don't think its right for someone to say something on the internet only to be met with such harashment. No harashment is ever justified.
Dislike mobs are not rlly a good argument because I always judge a video by the comments and amount of likes. Also, I always consider the YouTubers with more than 1k dislikes a more popular one
I don't dislike dislikes, I personally just find it sad to see dislikes on videos that really shouldn't be that controversial, or videos which are silly to complain about. Be honest, you only think the Gillette ad is bad because someone told you that it was gonna destroy masculinity and bring in an age of far left totalitarian SJW rule or something like that.
It also sucks when you see loads of dislikes on flat earth debunk videos, though I do get a chuckle when sequels (if it's a video series) have way less dislikes because the mob got tired.
17:27WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT… This guy is saying it’s only bad in concept, and not the execution? Yknow, the part that actually matters?!?! He is ADMITTING HIMSELF that it’s not a bad thing in practice but he still doesn’t want it because he doesn’t like the way it sounds. Then he proceeds to describe a circlejerk and says that should be the alternative. My God… I can’t even describe how mind numbingly stupid this is.
This video has aged well, not just once, but twice.
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Truly a timeless video
48 likesFirst time I’ve seen a sequel comment lol
22 likesWhat was the first time? I have seen this video time ago and cant rewatch it right now for reasons...
8 likesguys youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
13 likes@Alessio Muccio the first time was when YouTube was announcing they’d probably take away the dislike button or something like that. This was a few months ago.
19 likesJust like yuri the ex-kgb.
0 likesOuch
0 likesEmplemon only speaks facts
3 likesThey were already discussing it from back then; Youtube just finally implemented it (despite the sheer amount of backlash against it since that time).
12 likesI hate that your right
5 likes@Nikoloz Gilles can't they just hide dislikes for their own videos?
2 likesLife lesson just because you can predict the future doesn't mean you can prevent it
3 likes@Nikoloz Gilles ronaldo is a left winger and striker.... did u mean messi?
1 likeThey did, it. They finally did it.
2 likesIt's like juice that turns into a fine wine, got forgotten, and then turned into a fine vinegar.
1 likeits now old enough to be its own chubby middle aged sugar daddy ... yeah
1 likeI think Dan got his wish
2 likesThis post is just good
3 likes@Nikoloz Gilles I am one of those right wingers, but honestly, your qualifier "[...] right wingers (and I'm not talking about Ronaldo)" was one of the funniest things I've seen all day, I don't know if you just came up with it or I just haven't read that one before. You got a genuine laugh out of me, not just the usual sharp "hnh" through the nose, so thank you for that. You go ahead and have yourself an awesome day you rapscallion!
0 likesIt aged well but not in a good way
2 likesindeed
3 likes@Nikoloz Gilles it’s that or when Biden and Fauci we’re getting LoLed No by voters...
0 likesDemocracy isn’t liked by some I guess
@Ken Hiett well put
0 likes@P4rd0n3d Ph03n1x I was a YTP virgin until I watched a couple of your videos. Immediately intriguing because I've never seen anything so accurately depict a psychedelic experience. David Lynch - Naked Lunch, here we come! Strange how we can tap into memories with such precision, with just the right sounds, smells, or visuals.
1 like@Ken Hiett and i was a psychedelics virgin until recently, i’ve been watching YTPs since 2010
1 likeMaybe too well🤔
0 likes@butterstix 24 please raise your hand if you think the CEO should be “removed” from her position
0 likesThis seems very relevant now...
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true dat. commenting to boost the algorithm
4 likesCould somebody send this to youtube?
4 likesYa think
1 likeNot super democratic in my opinion
8 likesHumm
0 likess a d e . . . .
2 likes@Raum 2901 youtube after watching: Ohho you actually think this is a democracy and we would care for your thoughts. That's so cute. [Immediately shadowbans emplemon]
0 likesThis video has aged like fine wine
6 likesLuckily for us mobile users it’s still around, though I’m not sure how long it will stay this way.
2 likesI hope emp makes some kind of video on the news
1 likeDepression
0 likessigh... youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
0 likesI just woke up and looked up that the dislike button is gone. I am very sad.
2 likesThe man was right.
0 likes@Nikoloz Gilles But disabling ratings on one video was always possible. Why don't they just do that on their COVID video if that was the reason?
0 likesWhats up checkmark
0 likesI’m trying to find a single dislike
0 likesWatching Matt Koval's announcement about the removal of dislikes, I thought something was off.
0 likesThe spoken words did not match the eyes. The video reminded me of an interview Admiral Jeremiah Denton gave in 1966. I have never seen a less enthusiastic, more reluctant announcement of something that is supposed to be great.
Calling the removal of dislikes a good thing for creators cannot be done without conflict by someone holding the title of "YouTube's Creator Liaison". We know this because there exists not a single YouTube Creator who thinks removing dislikes is a good idea -- for YouTube or for Creators.
Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed. Instead, there will be references to various studies. Studies that apparently contradict the common sense of every YouTuber.
The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can't be. In fact, most of it is not good. And that's OK. The idea was never that all content is good. The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.
The process works, and there's a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds. The process breaks when the platform interferes with it. Then, the platform invariably declines. Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre? Because nothing can be great if nothing is bad.
In business, there's only one thing more important than "Make it better". And that's "Don't fuck it up".
-Jawed Karim on Me at the Zoo’s description
true
0 likes"that's a step closer to Twitter"
2394 likesAt this point basically EVERY big social media site has become interchangeable versions of each other. The diversity of websites in the old days is gone, now everything is just streamlined into becoming the same.
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All the same and all garbage
77 likesExcept tumblr for some reason
13 likes@Cat Chara Tumblr has already completed its downward spiral and is now in the grave
121 likesYes. One that maximizes profit over everything else.
7 likeswas just thinking about this, from snapchat and the 'story' origins, to the 'shorts' that every platform now does..these sites are pretty much all interchangable instead of being the unique platforms they once were. you could theoretically scroll your reddit feed, find a topic that includes some outrageous facebook/instagram post, tweet about it and add more engagement to the discussion, watch it blow up and make it's way into the youtube commentator realm and enjoy the fallout of the memes on 4chan at one point lol..
39 likesLets be realistic... The web we knew and loved is gone since 2017.
21 likesguys hear me out. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
8 likesglares at shorts
7 likes4chan is still the same though
18 likessoon 4chan will be better than most combined
6 likesexcept tumblr
2 likes@Season Season Too bad most modern 4channers are redditors who think they're too edgy for reddit.
23 likesNot to defend these sites, but what specifically about these sites makes them feel uniform to you?
0 likesNot saying yard wrong, just curious.
Not familiar with Reddit, how do 4chan’s users remind you of Reddit’s?
0 likes@Fries same UI design, minimalist, basic, all have the dark and light features, messaging feature, stories, accounts, etc. some are different but only by a bit, the days where completely different social media sites were is now replaced with a system that's addictive, easily navigable, profitable and exploitative
16 likes@Fries Basically, each website takes and copy features from other websites that they can take without completely changing the use of their website. Like Shorts on YouTube, which are similar to videos on Instagram, Tiktok, etc.
3 likesI wanted to reply, but YouTube deletes my comments (tumbex, CherryPlayer, LiveJournal). Sad.
0 likes- Adûnâi
@Angamaitë Sangahyando damn
0 likes@popopop984 yeah they all copy everyone else and not have their own creativity cause why do that when you can make profit from doing whatever everyone else is doing
0 likes@Safwaan The only possible difference I see between these social media sites is some of the interests and tendencies of the people who use them more frequently may vary (ex: People who use Twitter more often may have shorter posts than some).
4 likesBut functionally speaking, I see your arguments for them being more interchangeable.
@Fries yeah they used to be more unique but I guess they care more about numbers than the people nowdays
0 likesWhat a shame
0 likesI was doing research for a project, and I was having to delve into old websites from 2005 on archive. God you aren't wrong. Doing that research made me realize how much it changed and how much I miss how diverse the old sites used to be.
1 likeThat does beg one question:
0 likesWhat was the rationale for these websites becoming more uniformal.
@Fries money and cause it's easiest to use, same for nearly everything like bananas, chocolate, etc. it's all 1 type to fit our needs and while it is efficient, it does get boring and repetitive after a while
0 likesa cool term for this is Oligopoly; firms are dependent on each other and copy each other to maximize profits, thanks econ class!
1 like@bareky As much as dependent on one another as a collective mass oligopoly, these sites are dependent on there being no material competition that offers anything they don’t (that would explain functional uniformity across the platforms).
0 likesIf a competitor entered the market that offered features that you don’t see on mainstream social media websites today, then that site would stand out, and would at the very least, appeal to a disenfranchised audience who would like to try something new.
When everyone doing anything are doing it just for money, this happens. People don't make sites and apps out of spare time, a sense of adventure, or for the sole reason of a "cool idea," anymore. We've worked the grind for money into every aspect of society now.
1 likeHobby? More like payless job amirite /s
@Fries Same people running all of them.
0 likes@Cat Chara no one uses tmblr though, it's mainly for fangirling now. which, hey, i don't mind.
0 likesSimplification trend anyone?
1 likeAll the same, shitty, boring design no less.
0 likesyup.
1 likeThe bottom bar appears on every map, making it basically every app is a template of another. Variety? where has it gone.
0 likesBecause when EVERY social media platform is just a corporate playground... hahaha... ...none of them will be.
0 likeswe're doomed. society has gone so far backwards that they can't handle a thumbs down icon with a number next to it.
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Bro that bs reason YouTube gave is just that, BS. They were probably told to do this by a government entity or corporation. Yeah some people were whining but comments (which aren’t removed) are way worse than a like-to-dislike ratio.
66 likesYouTube 2018: Oh no, people are voluntarily choosing to watch YouTubers with a variety of perspectives, let's remove the ones we don't like!
77 likesYouTube 2019: Oh no, people are voluntarily choosing to watch alternative new sources, let's astroturf legacy news media!
YouTube 2021: Oh no, people are expressing their dissent of our design choices through the dislike button, we have to remove it!
The downward spiral never ends.
We're the species that can't decides how to save our entire race from drowning/burning up. We were doomed from the start
10 likesyea i can't understand why youtube would strip away everything that makes their site great. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
1 like@Nikoloz Gilles i can see your point, but I want you to understand the bigger picture. It goes both ways here, and it's not just the righties.
8 likes@The Key and the Gate so true
1 like@The Key and the Gate good one XD
0 likesSociety? The dislike removal is UNIVERSALLY HATED. This is entirely YouTube's fault.
9 likes@Tirocoa yes. that's my point
1 likeOh this is purely to help put slimey companies, and if you didnt want to deal with criticism before the new update, you can just turn off comments and likes and dislikes
2 likes@Maria Hernandez exactly!
0 likesyes
0 likesikr
1 like@xsuperkai64 x YOUTUBE 2100, LETS BAN ADBLOCK SO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR ADBLOCK
0 likesIf like/dislike is too binary, what if we made a system with more than two options, maybe a grading system with, oh I don’t know, 5 stars?
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Good thing we still have Newgrounds!
11 likesfun fact: YouTube used to have that! That's why some old vids say to "rate" instead of "like".
7 likes@Recoin that's the joke my dude
24 likes@Lea Firebender and this is where i realize I'm bad at realizing jokes
20 likes@Recoin Haha no worries it happens
9 likesI prefer like/dislike since it implicitly ask for opinion, not fact. Youtube can use that to tune down the recommendation for me, not for everyone. I can do this to any video
0 likesWhen asked for rate, it sound like I have to be expert in the area.
Legit, I would favor a return to that because what if I had a mixed opinion, that like and dislike wouldn’t express?
0 likesSounds old-fashioned, like something a website in 2009 would do
2 likesAnd here we are, YET AGAIN EmpLemon knowing his shit. Honestly, every so often I get concerned about YouTube in the future making restrictions on who can even upload or shit like that, would tank them but their decisions are that stupid and who knows what will be restricted on the Net a decade from now. Can’t you imagine a timeline where corporations somehow use cyber attacks or viruses as an excuse to create restrictions on who can even upload files to larger sites on the internet or to weaponise them against smaller sites like they “aren’t trustworthy” or shit?
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That seems like exactly what its gonna be. And its all out of our Control At this point. If you told someone in 2010 how bad it would be now? They wouldnt believe you, and its only gonna get worse and worse. The only way to win this game, Is to not play.
15 likesWhats next the search bar
1 likeRemember, YouTube reserves the right to terminates someone's account for any reason. They absolutely can restrict who uploads, if they wanted to.
3 likesWhen I read that they will be removing dislikes, I immediately thought of this video. EmpLemon called it.
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same dude
11 likesOfc he did, YouTube’s behavior patterns easily showed this this would happen eventually
15 likesSame
3 likesIn a Discord server I'm in I pointed my friends to this video in response to the official Youtube one. With an additional recommendation saying: "Take it from a guy with alot more respect and credibility on this website. He knows what he's up to. Absolute grade-A youtuber.
8:54
0 likesSame
1 likeThey have now removed the dislike count, here's what I've observed.
105 likesAs everyone predicted, the comments are more aggressive.
A flood of angry comments is much more noticeable than a single number.
In their attempts to silence criticism, they made it more obvious.
Also, every largely disliked video will have a bunch of "use me as a dislike button" comments, so the change doesn't even do its fucking job.
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yep
6 likesTHEY ARE DOING IT OFFICIALLY NOW, THIS IS IT EVERYONE. THE DOWNWARDS SPIRAL IS BECOMING BIGGER
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It’s not even a spiral at this point. A spiral can’t describe how fast were going down. This is a fucking manhole
163 likesWait really? Can you give me a link to it?
3 likesYouTube is taking the downward spiral with emplemon
22 likes@vakapont A rabbithole describes an echochamber more than a downward spiral tbh
27 likesAnd deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper…
4 likesThis is crazy. Anyway, enjoy the signal boost EmpLemon. You've earned it.
8 likesJust another attempt to neuter the platform and become like TikTok. At this point they should just rename the site to Tube.
20 likesThe end is near
3 likes"Let's hope they listen"
7 likesNOPE
It's official.
4 likesI'm packing up my bags and moving to Twitch.
I'm absolutely TIRED of YT's bullshit.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE NOW APPROACHING THE EVENT HORIZON!
6 likesMake the move, switch to Odysee.
2 likesTactical nuke incoming!
0 likesinstead of pressing dislike you now have to write your hatred down.. not sure if this will work out for youtube ^^
3 likesAnd Steeper
0 likes@vakapont nah a black hole at this point
1 likeat this point, the downward spiral has reached criticla mass
0 likes@TheChasedanger Yup, approaching the event horizon
1 likeits gone for me
0 likesF
0 likessup xdn
0 likes@vakapont a wormhole!
0 likes@Nikoloz Gilles yes, no need to destroy the entire site over something political
0 likesDOWNWARD VORTEX DOWNWARD VORTEX DOWNWARD VORTEX
0 likesI’d argue that YouTube has its uses (in particular, perhaps accidentally, it’s become a very good media archive in my opinion).
0 likesBut with that being said, I do see why people who look at the site from the perspective of original content prefer the site in the 2000’s and earlier teens to the site today.
There are many issues today (censorship, demonetization, and in my opinion most notably the impact of the algorithm) that don’t seem as bad even eight years ago.
What do you think?
OH NOES!
1 likeHey, A Stats Channel!
0 likesif dislike is best,
0 likesend of world peace.
Deluxe Downward Spiral
0 likesKind of. They only reviewed the Number dude.
0 likesDidn't expect to see you here.
1 likeThe main argument saying a dislike bar can lead to a bad performance of the video is a bullshit argument. Imo, its the whole point. The audience should decide what is good content, not the website. It's literally killing free speech. Dislike mobs are bad they say, but a company like YouTube deciding to tamper with the dislike bar is the exact same thing. It forcefully changes the general narrative. They do it to generate a better appeal for large investors in their business.
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While yes, dislike mobs are definitely a problem, however removing the dislikes is Definitely not the solution.
16 likesYouTube is doing the equivalent of teacher of punishing everyone in the class because of the few bad student.
I think showing when the ratio is changing at a faster then expected pace would help, much like showing 10 of the recent videos ranked.
0 likesEmp should do a follow-up to this given the recent news.
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Nothing new to add though. This is just as relevant now than it was then.
36 likes1984
1 likeYes!! @EMPLEMON
0 likesThe problem with saying you can leave a negative comment so we don't need dislikes, is that writing a comment takes more time and effort so people won't bother in many cases. Also, leaving a comment removes anonymity, and opens yourself up to being attacked by other commenters.
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+ It can be easily be deleted
5 likesAnd chances are not many people will see the comment
1 likeThe irony.
190 likesYouTube, the very thing which wants to remove dislikes, recommended me this video.
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Приветствую Циклон ТВ!
0 likesyep
0 likesтупа русский Justin Y., под каждым видео комментарий пишет, респект уважуха 👍
1 likeWatch time
3 likesThey did it. We lost. Dislikes are gone, and now opinions are removed. YouTube is APPEALING TO THE COMPANIES MORE AND MORE.
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I feel like YouTube is trying to become TikTok. The addition of shorts is obvious, and this is also reminiscent of TikTok because they don’t have likes either.
113 likesNot just companies but politicians and news
39 likesNah, the battle has just begun. They are just testing the waters to see how much we care about it.
18 likesSwitch to Odysee, keep your opinion.
13 likes@Nqtural Already did but a lack enough reason right now since most content creators are here. Honestly the only way another website could rival YouTube is if many big users like Pewdiepie or Mr Beast give incentives to people to go there like money or something.
8 likes@draguO doT True unfortunately, that's why I use both at the moment.
4 likestime for a timeheist (Avengers Endgame)
0 likesbruh youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
6 likes@𝐄𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐜 𝐌𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐃𝐨𝐯𝐞 that's right we can't just give up. Just because we can't see the dislike count doesn't mean we can't find another way express disapproval as a community
1 likeYoutube is just an advertisement billboard now
8 likes@Nikoloz Gilles Not just cov-related videos. Just about every White House or corporate Youtube video and many AAA trailers (video game or film) or commercials that spit in the face of their target demographic. Not to mention other regimes in other countries. All of these wealthy and powerful groups have a vested interest in getting rid of the appearance of dissent.
9 likesYouTube has been that company. And if you think this means we lost oh boy you haven't seen nothing yet
0 likes@Pokin Ryan They'll end up getting Ajit Pai.
0 likesOdd, I can still see dislikes for all videos.
0 likesEdit: They got me
Ever since Tseries won, Youtube seemed to go downspirals...
0 likesheh wait till comments get disabled
3 likesThey want to return to the days of legacy media where you were forbidden from criticising the mainstream.
0 likes@𝐄𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐜 𝐌𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐃𝐨𝐯𝐞 and we fail it only gonna get worst
0 likesNo, my friend. YouTube is the company.
1 likeWe still have comment section and "VIOLATIONS TERM REPOST"
0 likesand we can post video to mock or warning other people
“We lost”
0 likesGo outside lmao
@Tuong Tăng posting a video to say you dislike something just feeds further into YouTube's pockets. Also, not everyone knows how to edit, record in proper locations, and were just gonna get a flood of low quality videos doing nothing but complaining about other videos, which is a bad look.
0 likesPersonally I don’t care I just watch the vid
0 likeswelcome to capitalism guy
0 likes@Ho Chi Meme true, that's why we need to use AdBlock and disable it only for the creators we agree with
0 likes@Jsonic [GD] was just about to say that. next thing gone will be the comments. amazon did it when they purchased imdb, the forums at imdb were hella fun back in the day and served as a little fangroup for every tv show/movie/actor etc. and they were just wiped for the internet by bezos. same thing might happen to youtube, so what then?
0 likesAnd yet here we are giving them our time
0 likesMeasuring dislikes are gone. Not the dislikes themselves.
0 likes@Just a guy So the answer is Indian genocide?
0 likes@Fergus Mo They're just helping their fwiends!
0 likesAnd there goes another reason why I hate the "PoWeR oF fRiEnDsHiP".
@KillTrump 666 bro I hate trump too but removing dislikes is bad for everyone. It’s good to give users a heads up on what the consensus is on a video and it also keeps the youtuber’s ego in check
1 like"disabling likes/dislikes is depriving your audience of an expressive outlet"
24 likesThis is exactly how I felt when I came across a video that did this or disabled comments. It feels neutering and manipulative.
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Dislikes are actaully good some people sometimes upload videos, without listening to the dislikes, listening to the dislikes is beneficial, you Can improve your content and put alot of effort and change from a bad content creator to a good one, dislikes are beneficial but we got a backup and it's the comments,
3 likesI hate that this video has become very relevant again. We need bigger creators to speak out against this authoritarian move from YT.
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Creators, including large ones, will like this change since it will make people dislike videos less.
0 likesgoddammit. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
1 likePewDiePie said it's not a great decision. PewDiePie. It was days ago. I don't think YouTube cares about what YouTubers think, even the big ones.
4 likes@LEGOMAN 2 Creators worth watching don't want it changed, and I'm not sure if this is true but I've heard positive or negative feedback increases engagement and views.
2 likes@Nikoloz Gilles I'm impressed at the level of dedication online right wingers have to ratio those videos. All the news videos I've seen talking about kids getting vaccinated have single digit ratings. If the left had that level of mobilization they would never lose another election.
0 likes@Mang Pike Hence The only reason big creators have to openly dislike this change would be to seem relatable and similar to the viewers, as if they're one of us. That would increase their popularity among the masses.
1 likeHowever, if they actually get close to making YouTube revert their decision the giant channels will stop ranting and raving about the removal of the dislike button because if YouTube did pull out that would negatively impact the popular creators in the long term.
YouTube removing dislikes is a hot topic that the masses loathe, so it would make sense for a lot of content creators to be cashing in on the hate train without actually holding the views and ideas of the masses.
Keep in mind that this is mostly speculation since I do not own a massive channel and thus do not know the mindsets of the people who do own such channels.
If you’re dislikes are more than 50% you’re probably the official YouTube channel
77 likesThe fears in this video have now become realized... I never actually thought that YouTube would follow through with it though. I mean, they've made all kinds of terrible decisions in the past. But this level of censorship is an entirely new level of unforgivable
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Oh shit whaddup Hurricoaster!
1 likeThe man himself has spoken
0 likes>A dislike on a Youtube video has never harmed a person, they've only harmed egos.
3000 likesFuck. Nailed it.
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If your ego hurts, then it’s your problem
76 likesSeeing a dislike on my videos makes me feel bad I don’t like that feeling end it just makes newer creators feel more disappointed and making content
11 likes@Black star What does that mean?
7 likes@Sparky1970 A dislike isn't always criticism though, a lot of the time it's just people being negative assholes or having a grudge against the creator. Which is why literally every video on YouTube that has over a certain number of views has dislikes, no matter how objectively good the video is. It's annoying when someone spends days, weeks, months working on something then some mouth breather in a basement who has never made anything in their life just smashes the dislike button. It's just spreading unnecessary negativity.
40 likes@jroma That’s very true, but still.
16 likes@jroma So it's basically like stopping the heckler problem in stand up comedy by taping their mouts shut
7 likes@Janfon1 I'd be fully in favour of that.
5 likesunless the person had emotional problems and they commit not living by choice
1 like@asher ferrara I don’t care about dislikes it just makes me annoyed because there’s no information behind the dislike if you don’t like something then you have to explain why if you don’t want a contact creator to be bad.
0 likes@asher ferrara I still think the useless feature should be removed
0 likesHi
0 likes@jroma So because a very small number of people cause problems, everyone should not be able to dislike? Seems legit
8 likes@Black star Did you even watch the video?
6 likes@jroma Except for the fact that's mostly not true. Mass Disliking has been most often used against big corporations or on a video with a bad take. Removing Dislikes isn't going to stop any hate, people will just find other outlets to put that hate somewhere else.
7 likes2.2K likes
0 likesnice
@Samu-el Daw-kins I’m actually entertaining unlike you guys
0 likes@Black star thats a lie 😅😅😅
3 likesAnd if your ego hurts, you should think about WHY. That’s an important aspect of how any social site works.
0 likes@jroma That's just how people are. If a group of people like something, there will always be that one that hates on it purely for the sake of hating. You can't change that no matter what. It's better to not generalize and realize things for what they are. Removing dislikes is not going to make anything better. An example would be any DIY video that achieves nothing, better to see the dislikes to know that you're wasting your time and move on to a better video that's better suited to help with what you're trying to achieve.
1 like@jroma the real question isn’t why some basement dweller hits dislike on your content, it’s why you even care what the troll thinks in the first place
0 likesYouTube's downward spiral is irreversible, but nobody can seem to replace it.
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Anime pfp? No opinion 👎
0 likes@Henry Crabs Akshually, it's from a video game, and so is yours soooooo
0 likes@Zwan Danganronpa fan? No rights👎
0 likesWell… It was a good run gentlemen. May we find a new platform.
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yes
0 likesVimeo?
3 likesthe hub
0 likesRest in peace, Youtube dislike. The bastards at Youtube HQ have really done it.
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Not just the headquarters, Google too!
3 likes@NeverAngel24 Official YT channel wait W H A T
1 like@Gimmysharp It was them the entire time! They always have been ruining shit since the last 2 decades! Never forget how they terminated SuperPoke Pets, it was horrible! Bring it back, Make The Internet Great Again! ✊😾
0 likesDespite our best efforts. Despite every soldier we lost. Despite all the friends and foes we lost. We still couldn't do it. We couldn't stop them. YouTube removed dislikes.
16 likesSmall Youtubers were used as a cover up.
Dislikes have always been a red flag to me. It doesn't necessarily influence my thoughts on a video, but it gives me warning signs to look out for. If there are 20% dislikes, I can still generally trust a video, but I will look to the comments to see why people are disliking. It's usually minor grievances or some factual thing that was wrong, etc. 50% dislikes is an instant red flag, and if I don't see obvious brigading in the comments (which is pretty rare), I'll assume the video is just incredibly controversial or incredibly wrong, and watch out for those pitfalls through the video.
1063 likesIf the likes/dislikes are hidden? The creator is dishonest. It's as simple as that.
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Based Carrot pfp
7 likesI cannot believe they went through with this. It might seem trivial for "bad" content in vlogs or whatever YouTube thinks is the only content on their platform. But I can say with confidence dislikes will have saved people's lives in the car modding community, and saved millions of dollars in bad mistakes for PC building and similar.
50 likes@Survii Gecko ^this. Ye totally right mate
9 likesBased and accurate. Bring back the dislike button!
13 likesrandom thing here but the first sentence looked like you were calling dislikes bad lol
1 likeGood comment.
0 likes@Determined Follower Problem: I prefer likes.
0 likesThis video has aged better than the management of this platform.
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They've aged, it's just their getting old as hell and more controlling
0 likesThey actually did it. Today, they went ahead and actually did it. They removed dislikes.
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They're about to charge people to upload videos.
2 likesOnce more, in these trying times, we return for EmpLemon, and seek his guidance 🙏
9 likesAs a sort of celebration for predicting the future and to commemorate what may be the last time we can express ourselves freely, I find its only fitting that I place a dislike on this video.
8 likesThis video is very relevant right now. I actually can't believe they've been toying with this idea for so long, and that they're seemingly finally going to go through with it. This is true YouTube armageddon
9 likesWell, they just released the video confirming they WILL remove the dislike counter. YouTube is going to be a significantly larger cesspool than it already is. Thanks YouTube.
25 likesI like how EmpLemon tore apart Dan Olson’s entire argument by pointing out that 4chan, the embodiment of everything that man and his kind hates, doesn’t have a dislike button.
17 likesCongrats on your prescience, and thank you for trying to warn people. Been a fan for years but had to come back to this vid now.
6 likesAnd just like that, the downward spiral just got bigger today.
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And EmpLemon predicted this back in 2019
9 likesSad but not surprising 😔
1 likeDon't worry, soon they will replace it with the love button and you will have a choice between liking and loving any given video. ♥
2 likes@Jonathan Gaeta true
0 likesim so glad I wasn't the only one who revisited this video upon hearing the news
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fr :/
0 likesYou gotta make a part 2 of this, especially how they are doing it for real.
9 likesThis is proof that YouTube has completely lost sight of what made this website great.
8 likesI wouldn't even have that much of a problem with it if you couldn't turn off comments.
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The worst part is that Youtube asked the community for feedback, and literally everyone was against the idea, and yet, YT removed them.
0 likesHell, even big channels (ie. Matpat, Markiplier, SOG, Linus Tech Tips, etc.) weren't happy about it. Matpat even told Susan Wojcicki (the current CEO of YT) to bring back dislikes, but she denied it.
YT is disconnected from the audience, it's baffling
Thanks to the removal of dislikes, I can't tell if that 83k likes on a 900k view video means you struck a chord or your opinion is so conroversial that 800k people unanimously hated it
11 likesand now youtube's removing dislikes ahahahah 🤦♂️ your theory was mad accurate, must be that simpsons spirit
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How much you wanna bet that YouTube disliked this very video
30 likes@Random Serbian Guy 4 trillion marks... (in 1923 German money)
25 likestru ^ coming to rewatch the video now. kek
5 likes@GameMaker 3_5 so like 4 dollars us then lol?
7 likesTHE SIMPSON SPIRIT , PROPHET
2 likes@LgnD2k3 I thought it was 1 usd
3 likesYoutube wants to hide the fact that their rewind failed.
7 likesWait what? Dislikes necer went anywhere.
8 likes208
1 like@macgeek2004 I thought dislikes for comments never worked anyway
4 likesThe mark was Germany's currency until 2000. 4 trillion mark would be about 2 trillion euro
2 likestake the bet fo sure
Technically YouTube has already removed both likes and dislikes, so
0 likesanix?
0 likes@GameMaker 3_5 that's about... A Single Dollar
0 likesIt happened today
5 likes@TheSonicFan4 they used to
0 likesYep they're going away now! :(
10 likesThey did it. Weep
7 likeswelp ... rip dislikes :(
0 likes@TheSonicFan4 Bad news: Dislikes are now gone.
0 likes@tiru liru yeah, now they are. Thankfully it's possible to bring them back.
0 likesIt has come full circle now. The dislike button will soon be gone. Users have almost no way to express opinion now that the creator can't hide.
23 likesI love the hypocrisy of people not agreeing and wanting removal of dislikes but they still go ahead and use the dislike button on your video. They're only proving that dislikes are important.
5 likesimagine if someone far in the future went back and saw youtube rewind 2018, and would thought it was well recieved because they saw 3M likes without realising the 17M dislikes
7 likesedit: also i know you might not see this but THANK YOU SO MUCH for putting the music list in the description, all youtubers should do that
Emp lemon is very good at analyzing YouTube’s behavior patterns. It was pretty easy
5 likesWELL...this aged like fine wine
12 likesLadies and gentlemen, we are here to mourn the loss of dislikes. Please pour one out for our downward-pointing thumby bois as we lower them into the downward spiral.
18 likesRest in peace, Neutral Response. You brought indifference to so many people.
6 likesEmp, how do all your video's age SO well?!
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Because he cares about the site
4 likesYoutube Rewind 2018: Breaks dislike record
2574 likesYoutube: Y'know, that button isn't even necesary at all...
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They're trying to remove dislikes cause of 2018 rewind's mess. They can't take criticism at all
142 likesThe same shit i was thinking
14 likes@Erikas0012 Good, i hope they do. We need a good reason for people to leave this site and find better alternatives.
34 likeshave you also noticed the missing count of dislikes on comments?
31 likesyeah, i thought the comment dislike would bring the like counter down by one like.
7 likesAlso Youtube: * Starts to Cry *
5 likesO M E G A F A C E P A L M
4 likesThis theory is so accurate it's probably truth
4 likesThen they'll take away the like button. If the dislike button is removed.
3 likesI think they put it back tbh.
1 likeThat is exactly what I was going to say!
0 likesRemoving dislike buttons just because an angry mob exists is just like cutting off your head just because headaches exist.
4 likesit actually isn't but makes sense lol
0 likes@trollbreeder theres an easy test to see that they dont do anything
5 likesstep 1) press like and see the number increase by 1
step 2) press the dislike button and watch nothing happen
boom, test complete. Now you can also preach to others about how shit youtube is, while nobody really decides to do much about it.
Also people need to stop thinking about switching sites, because nobody will be able to just make a new site since they'd need some absolutely massive servers and some other crazy shit. We need to choose a good team of developers and crowdfund the new website, since there's no way they'll be able to fund it themselves.
They’re saltiness is showing
2 likes@Somethings Empire COLOSSAL FACEPALM
0 likesAs an act of protest, I will dislike every video I watch on Youtube, even if it's a video I actually enjoyed, as a means to trash the unreliable rating system Youtube has created, this may result in something only if we the community as a whole do this together.
4 likes“And what happened, then? Well, on YouTube they say – that the downward spiral grew three sizes that day. And then the true meaning of dislikes came true, and YouTube felt the backlash of 10,000 dislike mobs plus two."
11 likesAs usual Based Emplemon is right
22 likesAnd such, we travel further and further into the downward spiral for each passing day.
4 likesThanks, Youtube! You made everything substantially worse.
With youtube now hiding dislikes, this video aged like fine wine
5 likesThis is clearly an amazing video, nobody has disliked it!
5 likesIronic how this gets recommended right as YouTube removes dislikes
7 likesit sucks that this is even more relevant now
57 likesAbout Dislikes, I think its very useful.
1790 likesIf its a Scam/Virus, then the dislikes can give a warning.
It can state an option, for example, i don't like TTS Reddit videos.
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same bro
1 likeAgreed
2 likeswait are you cool with tts animations? because thats what i make
4 likes@mottherr I mean, probably not.
58 likesI agree. TTS reddit videos are lazy. They don't even ask their own questions, they take already established r/askreddit threads and just put them in a boring text to speech format
105 likesReddit TTS videos are disgustingly successful for how low-effort the production is. I've blacklisted all of those channels from my recommended feed and I'm a happier person because of it.
68 likesThe problem there is the people abusing the button.
16 likesThere's a very recent video (not even mine) that has 77 dislikes and like 10 likes because some idiot on Reddit asked people to dislike the video, literally.
I say, keep the dislike button, but prevent people from abusing it on Youtube jeez.
jakkery nice try on a sneaky channel plug, but you gotta do better.
5 likesTTS reddit videos are so lazy it angers me. They just steal don't with 0 personality. At least when pewdiepie steals content you get his personality
24 likes@Cybernik The Robot how do we prevent people from abusing it? Its just like review bomb on metacritics its the only way to truly send a message
3 likesOkay so I'm NOT the only one constantly getting my recommendations flooded with that shit no matter how many times I click "not interested"
11 likes@Le Bonk when i am interested in the content i just go see the treath on reddit to not give them any money
2 likes@mottherr If you add actual original substance to the content, then it's not so terrible. A derivative work, such as an animation, is fine.
0 likescouldn't agree more, this is part of the many reasons why like/dislike ratio should be a thing
0 likeswots tts reddit vids?
0 likes@nch20045 I like seeing them, but yea, they're pretty lazy.
1 like@Dil exactly. I hate it when a Reddit channel complains about youtube when they can push out content every hour.
0 likesCybernik The Robot reddit=plebbit
0 likesAnd it's the nicest way to share an opinion instead of leaving a hate comment
0 likes@Cybernik The Robot and some haters tend to dislike their enemys video as soon as they see it...
0 likes@Cybernik The Robot It's impossible to determine if a dislike is done by a "mob" or out of "real reasons". ESPECIALLY since machines are currently operating most things on YouTube.
0 likesIf they dare take it out, it will literally be a huge hit to their whole operation.
0 likesMany new content can easily be trash, and scams (as there are already) but In massive scale. And the algorithm won't help that, if anything it might boost amd encourage it. Who knows.
Reddit tts videos are just horrible and require no effort.
0 likes@tristan the oofer 2 a video where it’s text to speech reading from a computer
0 likes@T ah ok
0 likesI wish they brought back dislikes in comments
0 likes@nch20045 I started to see this reedit videos because works for me like highlights, comments that I would not see without them. but I started to became anoyed with them because the cringe clickbaits thumbs and they not show interesting replies if at least they linked the post
0 likesWith those, I mostly just go to the comment section.
0 likes@Extreme Wreck 2000 Sadly, some content creators can disable comments.
1 likeplease do a follow up. I don't think there truly is anything ore important in modern free speech than the dislike button on the largest and most influential internet platform
5 likesWell, now they did it. They up and did it. Dislikes are no longer here.
25 likesThey did it. To be honest I was expecting them to do it sooner
11 likesSadness, anger, powerlessness, but mostly just sadness.
11 likesIf dislikes actually get deleted, I'ma just comment the word "dislike" when I dislike a video
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coonrat1 Modern problems require modern solutions
765 likesYes, but soy creators can just filter the word "dislike".
517 likesArquimedes Then we can type it as “dis1ike” or “dislik3”, etc. We will find a way!
480 likesLike
234 likesLike
193 likesFun fact: This is already happening to cowards who disable ratings but keep comments
339 likesLike
40 likesArquimedes “not a like”, “anti-like”, “fuck this video”
132 likesLike
18 likesThen we can all like your comment if we agree
25 likes-dislike
7 likesLike
8 likesBut probably they will disable the comment section to prevent that
18 likesSame
1 like@2009Bandman Modern problems require modern solutions
7 likesThat’s a really good idea actually
6 likescoonrat1 same
2 likesI bet you got highest IQ score on your entire planet
13 likesOr get atleast one person to say dislike or any other filtered dislike and get people to like it so it will accurately show how much people disliked a video
5 likesYour comment will be zucced.
3 likesI like the old method of just commenting "Boooooooooooooo", but youtube might try to ban ghosts after that
15 likesVideos with more comments get recommended more. Dislikes do the opposite.
1 likeSimple, but effective....I like it
0 likes👎 there's also this
9 likesLike
0 likesthey will get triggered and delete your comment
5 likes*Comments "Dislike"
3 likes-OH NO BETTER DELETE COMMENTS BECAUSE SOMEONE ON THE INTERNED GAVE ME A BRAIN BOO BOO
"Youtube is now getting rid of comments" Just wait for that.
4 likesWorst case, you can leave a dislike comment on dissenter, but at that point it's so out of the way that there's not much point.
3 likeslike
0 likes@Shade Wood If YouTube disables comments then everyone will suddenly realize the utter brilliance of Dissenter.
2 likes@João da Silvayeah and we cant say "downvote" because we are not degenerate redditors
3 likesLet's all do this if it comes to that
1 likeThat would just make the video do better because it has more comments
0 likesDISSENTER REEEEEEE
0 likesThen you f3 the word dislike and you'll have the number of dislikes a video has.
0 likesBrilliant.
If YT disables comments, make a separate video on why you dislike the video and defend yourself.
4 likesvisionary
0 likesAnd wtf does downvoting a comment actually do?
0 likeslike
0 likes"Australian like"
2 likesDislike
1 likeUndislike
2 likesDis I don't like
1 likeAnd when they turn off the comments, hit them on Dissenter.
1 likeERRandDEL hell yeah duuuuuude
0 likesOutstanding move
0 likesif that happens I'm gonna pay someone to make a bot account named TheDislikeButton that will comment on every single video with just "a"
2 likesWell its already gotten that shit I mean on mobile you have the option to press a button on reconmeded videos and put im not imterested in this video nice bloons music btw
0 likesJust ratio the video
0 likesThey could also moderate the comment section and only allow two comments saying dislike to make it appear legit.
0 likesLike
0 likesthen people can like the "dislike" comment all the way to the top
0 likesYoutube: shit, lets delete comments
0 likesLike
0 likesLike
0 likeslike
0 likesI alread do that
1 likelike
0 likes"Use me as a dislike button"
4 likesJust Another Guy With A Moustache you can be my dislike button anytime
0 likesYou have the entire site backed up with you on that one. Get ready, for the battle may eventually happen.
0 likesAnd just make that the norm - you "like" the "dislike" comment.
0 likesHrm... MIMI LIKe
1 likeL1k3
0 likesDISLIKE
0 likes@João da Silva synonyms
0 likesLike
0 likesdislike
0 likesLike
0 likes@Orion Moreno [100%] Like
0 likesdislike
0 likesLiken't
0 likes"unsubscribed"
0 likesBro just delete YouTube, no one will even be able to make a rant video.
0 likes@2009Bandman And if that gets filtered as well, then we comment "d1slik3".
0 likesDislike
0 likessame
0 likesThey’ll remove the comments
0 likesBut then you'll be notified when someone comments on it 11 months later
0 likesAbraham Adi like
0 likesDislike
0 likesBased and Redpilled
0 likesYES
0 likesGo the steam route and use -rep or +rep.
0 likesBig brain move
0 likesLike
0 likesDislike
0 likesyoutube we shall remove the comment feature and if the make videos saying this we shall remove the video feature
0 likesdislike
0 likesLike
0 likesLike
0 likesdon't make them remove comments
0 likesLike
0 likeslike
0 likesLike
0 likescomments get turned off
1 likeLike
0 likesI was thinking the same thing
0 likeslike
0 likesDislike
0 likesThey're gonna get rid of the comment section next lmao
0 likesPeople have been doing it so long as I've been on YouTube. It's filler but it's effective.
0 likesTheres gonna be hella “use me as a dislike button” spam
0 likesWonderful and creative idea!
0 likesDislike
That is the most veiled insult on lemons ever.
0 likeslike
0 likeslike
0 likesBut it will have no impact on the algorithm
0 likesactually an interesting way of getting around it. then, it could be paired with an extension to create a third-party dislike button.
1 likeNo no wait he's got something going
0 likescreators can disable the work dislike from comments tho
0 likesLmao
0 likesAnd that’s how we lost the comment section.
0 likesDat Boi worth
0 likesbased
0 likesThis still boosts their engagement, increasing how many people see it
0 likes@jollyollybolly they don't currently effect it, so it's not rly the opposite
0 likesIf people filter out the word dislike: look up zero width non joiner and coppy and paste it somewhere into the word (it's a character that doesn't have any visual presence)
1 likeIf YouTube disables comments: the site will quickly become worse than 4vhan as there will be litterialy no way for people to get checked and YouTube will reverse it after loosing a significant amount of people
@skrubbed this is an amazing idea. If you don't mind, may I add it to list of things I have to do when certain things happen to make sure the dislike doesn't die?
0 likeslikes comment
0 likesGalaxy brain move
0 likes“Like”
0 likesYES! thank you! You are a good fellow! Yes yes!
0 likesdislike
0 likesWhat dose disliking a comment actually do?
0 likesLike
0 likeslike
0 likesGood that’s way better for creators
0 likesLike
0 likesAgreed
0 likesdislike
0 likesLikw
0 likes@Tam Ago I would appreciate if you could cut down on the profanity since I would like to keep this a racism free zone pls
0 likesPeople actually do that on Instagram meme pages and it's super annoying
0 likes@Archway Cinema lol
0 likes@João da Silva then make it different "I do not like this video"
1 likeGenius.
0 likesNo that raises engagement and shows the video to more people
0 likes@Oreo17 so does disliking
0 likes@coonrat1 oh really? I thought that liking increased it and dislikes decreased it. That basically removes the main reason to dislike videos.
0 likesWhat if the comments are off too?
0 likesLiked
0 likesLike
0 likesMake a playlist with the videos you dislike.
0 likesi would just say "grr..."
1 likeLooks like you know what you gotta do now.
13 likesLooks like we'll need people to be like you soon.
10 likesaged like fine wine
10 likesAgreed
1 likebad news: it actually is
8 likesI hate to say it, but this aged like fine wine.
12 likesheh.
0 likesI have some news for you...
2 likesGet your fingers ready
0 likesLike
0 likesYep, I liked your comment.
Agreed!
0 likesGuess what
0 likesyes
0 likesYouTube will just ad that to blocked words and it will go into the spam comments folder 🤘😔
1 likeMan
0 likesLike
0 likes@Max Wasson Not that I'm a fan of that...
0 likesGood idea
0 likesIt's not just a joke anymore
0 likesOr just "dis"
1 likeamen
0 likesToo bad you can control your comment section
0 likes@DJ Chameleon You can't control it forever
0 likesLike
0 likesI will like your dislike to cement my own dislike
1 likeI would just pin a comment over my video and title it “dislike button”
0 likes@João da Silva just say “downvote” “d1$l1k3” etc
1 likelike
1 likeIt's coming gamers, the reckoning
11 likesthis aged poorly
11 likesLike
1 likewell, looks like you’ll have to comment “dislike” now
13 likesnows your chance
0 likesThis aged well.
9 likesThis has aged like fine wine
15 likesSaying “comments is a better way of communicating to a creator” is true, until you reach someone with millions of subscribers.
29 likesEdit: This comment is a perfect example, the chance of emplemon reading this comment is 1/1000000. I would need 100+ more likes just for a chance of a big YouTuber to read my comment, and basically no big YouTuber will check the comment past the first 3 minutes so your fucking screwed.
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Exactly, i only found this comment because i was scrolling this comment section because of the recent news.
3 likesEven if its a YouTuber that doesnt have millions of subscribers, theres no guarantee that the youtuber will read the comments. They are almost 100% more likely to see the like to dislike ratio because its one of the first things you see on a video.
I apologize for the sheer hubris that went into this post, it took like an hour to write this fucking novel.
2 likesSeeing every kind of media get feedback and commentary was what gave this website its identity, and dislikes were a vital part of that. This used to be one of the few major websites where you could see it happening in a large-scale, user-friendly way. YouTube denying that to its users is one of the most painstaking moves I've ever seen the website make. I knew that the management was terrible, and that it was eventually going to get worse, but I was hoping it would take a few more years for something like this to happen. Things on the website were degrading, and I didn't want to be the person who just let it happen while I get progressively sadder.
Sometime before the counter was removed, I resolved that I would quit going to YouTube for a month, and look around other websites to see if there was anything else worthwhile. I mostly hovered around Newgrounds, and found that you can easily get interesting material, but couldn't seem to find anywhere that had a review/commentary scene that could work as a substitute to YouTube. I was testing myself and learning a lot about content creation in the process, but was still pessimistic about finding a website that could really compare for entertainment. Still, I stuck to the plan and waited out the month.
The website was pretty unceremonious when I came back. It was upset, because YouTube is always upset, but it wasn't up in arms or anything. The complaints about the dislike removal had pretty much died out, channels were producing as if nothing had changed, and most people I was subscribed to hadn't even uploaded since I left. The website barely changed, and suddenly my decision to leave felt a lot more justified. I want this place to recognize when it needs to change.
Relying on the same place for content is easy, and learning the environment of a different website is way harder to manage. Plenty of people never consider going anywhere else purely for that, even if that means the place has to suffer for it. I had never regularly went to any other platform before this point. But YouTube's greatness can definitely exist somewhere else. Finding alternatives for music and entertainment has made me more confident in what I choose to watch, and even if people can't completely transition to somewhere else, I believe that breaking that reliance is helpful.
Every time that this website's users prevent it from getting worse, it takes a fucking historical achievement. I wish it weren't so complicated to fix this website where it sorely needs it, but you're one of the users I trust to get upset and actually fix things. That's why I first came here once the break was over.
Keep up the good work, Emp. I'd like to hear some complaints. And if I don't, I'll be around to pick up the slack.
Lemon out here speaking facts on feedback
8 likesI'm over here just enjoying him dunking on Dan "Leaking CP to 8Chan" Olson
"When you choose to disable ratings on a video, you are deliberately depriving your audience of one of their expressive outlets, and you are consequently degrading their experience as a viewer." Exactly. Exactly this. Having no voice and feeling weak, powerless and invalidated
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It's so sad what YouTube does.
0 likesI installed an add-on for Firefox so the disliked counter is back, but apparently it won't work in future but still..
It's happening. Emplemon is a prophet.
9 likesWell, unfortunately YouTube didn’t see this video because they are too sensitive to feedback and have some double standards that are really trying to protect their own ass and not everybody else’s
4 likesI remember when YouTube wasn't a place where adults would act like emotionally immature children. I grew up with angry reviewers, ranters, and Retsupurae. The uncompromisingly harsh criticism made everything better and more watchable/playable. If unpopular creators think this will improve their situation, it won't.
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@Abaddon, the Lord of Avernus. Corporations and people with no emotional maturity, like Dan Olson. They are what we call in the biz, 'useful idiots'.
15 likesbro youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
9 likes@Nikoloz Gilles yeah, that's the reason I never go to the comment sections of those videos
3 likesThey be acting like preventing the spread of a virus should be a human rights violation.
This is a terrible decision for a variety of reasons.
8 likes1. Dislikes are a great way to signal quality or lack thereof, so if you are looking for a good tutorial or instruction video where the speaker gives clear and helpful instructions, likes and dislikes allow you to easily sort through videos relating to what you are trying to find. Removing dislikes makes this process much more difficult and time consuming.
2. Apart from the inconvenience (which is honestly enormous when you consider that billions of people use the site for such purposes every single day), it also means that extremists who only care about promoting their ideology will be given an even bigger advantage over moderates now as, unlike those actually taking the time to verify the quality of the video, they will be able to like and comment on videos that appear to support their stance at a far faster rate ensuring that partisan and extreme content which studies have already shown increase both positive and negative engagement (the only negative form of engagement after this policy is implemented being comments which also boost the amount of views a video gets as the number of comments is one of the statistics YouTubes systems take into account when figuring out which videos to promote) becomes far more popular and will contribute to increased political polarization and the acceleration of the political binary in nations where YouTube is used to any significant extent.
3. The fact that a content creator can delete comments they don't like means that those who don't have the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction now lose not only the ability to look at the like / dislike bar and see if something fishy is going on but now their ability to find a comment which debunks the lies within the video are also far more difficult (even impossible if the content creator is determined enough) to find. This will lead to the spread of disinformation and clickbait and ultimately make it so that provocative content is given even more of an advantage over actual quality content in terms of what gets consumed.
4. Apart from the issues which are created by this decision, it also doesn't fix anything as the content creator would still be able to see the amount of dislikes if they go to look at their statistics and they can already turn off dislikes and comments as of now.
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People should make alt accounts with your pfp and a blank Unicode comments to imitate dislikes.
0 likes11/29/21:
11 likesOn December 13th, the Google API will be removing the dislikes property, which will mark the final day of dislikes on Youtube without third party software.
We have 2 weeks left, guys. I'm ready to embrace the new era of Clickbait Supreme Mega Ultra 2.0 Plus and scammers.
sigh
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YT and Google continue to be disliked.
1 likeWell this is officially the dislike apocalypse on YouTube. It was good while it lasted.
5 likesEmp's reading Youtube's every move like a book 👏
3 likesPositivity can be toxic if it's not checked. Without the negatives, the positives become meaningless and allow what we hate to prosper with no problems.
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Exactly forced positivity always feels so disingenuous
75 likesSocial media without dislikes is like being surrounded by the Stepford Wives. Everyone smiling all the time, nothing but positivity, but it's all hollow. The toxicity is worse than ever before, it's just hidden beneath the surface where it will fester.
38 likesRemember Rule of Acquisition #48: the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
Dream stans
6 likes@KingT 02 "hey UwU!!! Uu are all cute smol beans and i love Uu all!!!"
7 likesAs a nintendo fan i can vouch for this
3 likesEspecially if the content is somehow 100 times worse than anything from The King of Hate.
0 likes"Just because you cant see the dislikes doesn't mean they don't exist"
3 likesFUCKING simple yet powerful statement
First the prediction of Leary’s removal, and now this. Praise lord emplemon once again.
6 likesWell, I can say one thing now
2 likesHe was ahead of his time
At least Youtube recommended me this video right when we need it
Holy shit, was this video ever fucking prescient.
21 likesI had a feeling youtube would wait a good long while, and they did. Any horrible idea YouTube teases is inevitable.
2 likesAnd here we are yet again, 7 months later! Funny how that works. Yeah... This is going to backfire immensely, because now people have to comment their dislike or hate towards the video in order to express it.
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Well, you know how it is: people complain for a while, before they adapt and move on.
1 likeStrange how you managed to debunk every argument given for why dislikes would be removed 2 years in advance.
3 likesCongratulations Susan, you have officially removed our only way of communication and rebellion. THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION WILL STILL COME. LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S LIBERATION OF YOUTUBE.
4 likesI'm not mad at Youtube, I'm mad at myself for expecting better of them...
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Couldn’t have said it better myself
28 likesBlessed comment my freind
5 likesLuckily this account of mine seems to have been spared by this change. For now at least.
4 likes@W. D. Gaster I'm confused about what you mean. Could you elaborate please, dear sir 🙂
0 likes@no special person I have three accounts. On two of them the dislikes are no longer visible, but on this one they still are.
4 likes@W. D. Gaster 😳 o darn, thanks
0 likesyeah!
1 likeOr, you know, you could try both!
1 likeSwitch to Odysee my guy.
1 likenah youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
0 likesMore relevant now than ever.
16 likes7 months ago this was just the beginning... now we've entered Endgame
12 likesEmplemon content only gets more relevant. As long as YouTube keeps making shitty choices his content will forever be relevant
3 likesCan they please just stop making this site cater to more and more emotionally fragile paper people. You already can't see comments where people swear, now we can't see dislikes FFS!
8 likesFirst Internet Historian and now Emp? This truly is a glorious day!
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Yeah pretty good day tobe honest
17 likesPerfect storm
6 likesBeyond correct
6 likesThe act man too?
10 likesEh...liked you better when you were in space.
2 likesAlmost heaven...
1 likeAint a coincidence
2 likesFox Of Shadilay bruh me too
1 likeIt's weird how channels I watch have collaborated before
2 likesI know right?
2 likes@Reecherd Brown whaaaa
2 likesIndeed
3 likesThis has been a good couple of days for youtubers making videos I like
2 likesHoly shit I said the exact same thing
0 likesthe stars have aligned
0 likesTruly a fruitful day.
0 likesagreed
0 likes@Casual Goats THE ACT MAN, a guy who talks about video games, dropped a video about why Call of Duty MW3 was mediocre.
0 likes@Reecherd Brown yh
0 likesi was so excited when i saw both of their notifs
0 likesThe Fall of 76 is a general depiction of the current state of the gaming industry.
0 likesBow down to our cooperate overlords lmao
7 likesi love that your categorys line up really well as a parto-distribution
2 likesI'm only 1 min in, but I'm still willing to say the only people advocating for removing dislikes are those making shitty content or outright lying. Dislikes will still hit the algorithm, people will still go and dislike mob what they disagree with, but the ones saying "remove it" are the ones that don't want to make it obvious you are watching bad content.
3 likesIts a shame how a simple video from 2 years ago fell on the deaf ears of a corporation. They claimed to "hear us out" but still went forward with this poor decision.
1 likeDislikes can help a bunch. To avoid scam/clickbait/bad videos. It helped the director to change Sonic’s design
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It wasn't just that, it was also due to general backlash like the very comments and Video Responses.
20 likesIt wasn't the dislikes alone though?? It was mainly all the redesigns and talking about the design over on twitter and youtube itself that showed the design was the problem. Without all that stuff the dislikes could've meant literally anything to the director.
7 likes"We'll fix it in post" - Sonic Movie director
3 likesMega Fan Studios
21 likesThere's a conspiracy that the Sonic redesign might not have actually been a result of backlash, but more a planned marketing strategy to get people emotionally invested into the film.
I mean, from redesigning every VFX shot about a CG character in a film about themselves in 6 months to the near immediate response since the trailer, I'd say just stand back a little and see what happens with it in a few months.
@CrystaltheCool Ya but the Dislikes was the trigger that got the topic started once people see O wow this Sonic Trailer has alot of Dislikes let's talk about this or fix this then won't dislikes and comments have pushed the ball to the next court sort of speak?
2 likesYeah or tutorials, whenever I have a problem I don't want to waste time on a fix that will not work. Heavy dislikes it's a waste of time, 50/50 it's a coin flip so it might work for me.
0 likesGotta leave rude comments in order to show your dislike now.
10 likesStarting a YouTube channel is a massive investment of one's life and livelihood, and as one of those kids who's wanted to become a YouTuber ever since the Minecraft days of 2012, the removal dislikes makes developing an audience all the more impossible.
1 likeWell, looks like EmpLemon has predicted the future... Again.
5 likesYou predicted the future once again, old emp
5 likes"They all begin the same way with youtube teasing it and treating it like a non-committal, optional thing. And then it becomes default for the whole site."
522 likeswell wouldn't you know it...
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i hate this bruh, i didn't even want this. youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
12 likes@Nikoloz Gilles what
6 likes@Nikoloz Gilles I myself am pretty left wing and really hate the removal of dislikes. Literally nobody likes it except corporations and politicians (on both sides, and I suspect the next time a republican is in office the dislike counter won't magically return, but at the same time, I think they waited for Biden because it would give them more favor then)
6 likesya
1 like@Lazys The dank engineer [BACK] As a gay man myself, I'd say both wings are 100% guilty in how their politics are mostly filled with the whiniest people to have ever existed(except for Nikocado Avocado).
1 likeIts almost like Emp is a prophet...
8 likesIt's heartbreaking to return to this video and see the dislikes gone
2 likesThanks to Emp we learn a lot of things that not everyone knows or even understands.
0 likesIt gives you a good way of understanding the more you watch his content.
Living in Perfection and Ignoring the negative or even isolating negativity completly is not a good idea.
Literally Balance my dude,whitout it life would not be so good.
I watch this video a couple of months ago and i said to my self, it would be crazy if they remove the dislike button, luckily the aren't going to do that, and here we are now
4 likesEmplemon you predicted it
7 likesback here for the same reason everyone else is; aged like a fine wine, david gilmour, rob halford, or whatever analogy you want to use
19 likesThis aged so well so much that it seems it was made now just with a different video
3 likes"He can see things before they happen. It's a Jedi trait"
9 likesWhelp, they actually just went ahead and did it, they are planning on hiding the amount of dislikes a video has gotten.
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Yup, it's absolutely pathetic
152 likesThousands of people responded saying it’s a horrible idea, so let’s hope the outrage is enough to tell them to not go through with it, but we’ll see.
178 likes@Tubby they'll be blind to reason, they'll make all valid criticism invisible, like the dislike button
130 likes@That Warlock They are incredibly dense and blind. But hopefully with the overwhelming and universal negative response, YouTube will get the message.
45 likesProbably because Biden has been getting a ton of dislikes.
50 likes@Tubby I mean, they did listen to us when we said not to remove the verification check mark.
11 likes@The Trashman Yee the precedent exists for Youtube to listen if the outrage is big enough. Also, in calling their proposed change an "experiment" rather than flat out declaring that it's set in stone implies Youtube is somehwat open to not implementing it. But, with all the dislikes their channel gets Youtube definitely wants to get rid of dislikes to try and sweep their criticism under the rug. Hopefully the backlash for even proposing this change is enough to get them to back off for a while.
26 likes@smangy shhhhhh cant talk about that
7 likesMan Youtube is saltier about rewind than a salt factory.
10 likes@smangy This video is from a year ago.
2 likes@TFrills Hey, wanna know something funny? This video is a year old. There's literally nothing saying YouTube is trying to protect Biden from criticism.
12 likesThey're trying to protect themselves from criticism because they constantly shove stuff like Jimmy Kimmel down people's throats.
@Aria Jacobs And?
3 likes@Tubby You think they care about criticism? That’s why they’re doing it. Because they are the proud owner of the worst video on YouTube.
2 likes@Aria Jacobs They did it after he was elected though, the fact the idea only really went through after over a year of being thrown around, possibly more. The fact that it was only after a liberal was elected was suspicious, and especially with youtube, while not necessarily directly influencing the movements of the left, definitely has left leanings. They have the motivation to do it. Honestly I don't even believe they did since it's kind of illogical just by common sense, but it's still fairly interesting to think about it. I mainly just wanted to point out the possibility more, with actual evidence, even if it isn't much.
4 likes@RealmerQ See, that's a take I can respect. It's plausible but improbable.
0 likes@Tubby I dont think so, they dont care about backlash, youtube has become but a tool to push whatever they want, too many normies that could potentially change their viewd if they continue to be exposed
0 likes@Aria Jacobs sorry all those logical and reasonable points mean nothing because Biden bad11!!!11!!
4 likesDislikes are gone now
0 likes@Marcus Randall gone on mobile
3 likes@TFrills Ah yes.
0 likesIt's not as if most corporations are in support of the old views of the conservatives.
They’re back on my phone rn
1 likewhat, where?
0 likesHey no they didnt
1 likeYou got 37
1 likeNope, just the comments
1 likeWhat a shame
0 likes@TFrills another victim of radicalization
1 likeRatio'ing will be a youtube thing in the future too lol
0 likesYou can see it on full screen mobile.
1 likeAm I high? Are you guys high? I still see dislikes
2 likesComments too... i want a like dislike system like on reddit
2 likes@Salty Rooster ya
0 likesPeople can just comment "dislike" if they did
0 likesNo just comments
1 likeBiden administration
0 likesThen they didn’t
0 likesIt just occurred to me:
1 likeHow will we know if neutral response is truly neutral?
We are in a dystopia (:
0 likes@PON PON PATA PON yep both sides don't listen anymore just shout they're opinion and dislike spam the opposition, its so damn sad
0 likesIt happened today
1 likeDamn it.
1 likeAnd now it looks like they made the official announcement that they are gonna start hiding dislikes.
1 likeThey just sent out the email today
1 likeYep, they just announced
1 likeJust did…
1 like@Mister Autist well time to dislike all youtubes ads, commercials, and everything that YouTube supports
1 likeAnd it happened
3 likesWell, fuck.
1 likeJust switch to Odysee already...
1 like@A random guy don't wanna, the past is better.
0 likes3:44 they claim there is still a comment section, but i am here to tell you, that's gaslighting. the comment section is heavily monitored and half the comments you post are invisible to others. it's mostly the negative comments that get roasted. that's if the comment section is even enabled. they will eventually rid the site of a like button, as their videos won't get enough likes compared to videos they would rather the site didn't host. youtube is on a spiral, and it won't be long before a real competitor emerges and strikes the final blow. then youtube can be the corporate tv network it wants to be.
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I hope you are right concerning a strong competitor. Bitchute is way too conspiracy heavy for it to be another YOUtube like in the old days.
3 likesWe need to make a mission to make this the biggest video on youtube
2 likesThey're fucking doing it
10 likesCan we finally get a competition platform for YouTube now that this came to fruition?
2 likesIn protest of the garbage decision to remove dislikes, I am not going to use this platform at all until dislikes come back. I’m dead serious, I have other things and hobbies to do, and movies to watch that I haven’t. I will see you all when dislikes come back, hopefully…
4 likesBye bye dislikes.....
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Ok verified youtuber
0 likesR.I.P Dislike Count. You'll be missed dearly.
6 likesWell, as someone who liked this video when it came out and has been targeted by the BS mentioned, I’ll honestly miss it. Rip dislike button
1 likeAnd when everyone is liked on YouTube...
8131 likeschuckle
...no one will be.
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You, my good sir, win the Internet for the day.
272 likesIt’s just like when emp said in his last video,
159 likes“If everyone were talented, no one would be”.
LakituAl that incredibles reference
42 likesI literally had the same idea in my head
13 likesI love this comment
7 likesOh shit
5 likesThat reference gets used so much it's near-biblical at this point.
27 likesdon't worry, i liked this video just for you
0 likes“and when everyone’s super, no one is.”
9 likesDASH?
3 likes@Red Line lolwut
5 likesLakituAl I like this reference so much
1 likeMere exposure effect
1 likedislike
1 like10/10 profile picture
1 likewho
1 likeGoddamn I wish I could share this comment rn
0 likesgood
0 likesMwhuaha ha ha ha ... HA ha HA HA hA ha hAA
0 likesI love this comment
0 likes@Mercury I DIDN'T SEND FOR A PLANE
0 likesya know, that's not a bad point, actually...
0 likesWell... This aged well.
0 likes@Corvus_Armatura Indeed
0 likes@Mercury ikr like dude, i remember when comments with more dislikes than likes still displayed with a red number next to them. And then one day it just was no more. Eck.
1 like@Mercury No kidding lad. Dislikes show how bad some videos really are, like Gametheorys' Tf2 vs Overwatch video, or really any given video from Youtube themselves. Banning dislikes is tantamount to censorship of saying what we do and don't like. Eventually, yeah, even comments will be policed. Maybe not wiped out, but they will be heavily enforced. Likely with another terrifyingly awful bot.
2 likesIt's happening... 😔
8 likesWelcome to our new reality :(
8 likesThis has aged like a very fine wine
6 likesOh boy,this video aged well
8 likesi didn't let dislikes influence my viewing unless they were drastically high, and i doubt a lot of other people did either. even ~20% dislikes i could see as a video being 'controversial' rather than 'bad.' if a video in this territory seemed alright aside from its like ratio, i wouldn't be deterred- if anything, it'd draw my interest in even further. not being able to see videos with really high dislikes has just made clickbait, deception and misinformation even easier. a lot of the time if i'm unsure about a video just based on the thumbnail/title i'll open a private window so that the youtube algo won't feed me more of it if it ends up being slop. i'm really careful with the algorithm. dropping a dislike on a video i actually dislike in such a way isn't worth exposing my account to it in the first place.
1 likeMan, sucks to suck. At least the fact they decided to remove made me remember this video and I can rewatch it, because i like emps vids.
2 likesI love how they just throw “unskippable ads” out there like it’s not a bad thing or a big deal
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Bro, the past month I was bombarded with nothing but 1-2 unskippable ads.
225 likesYou can skip all of them? Wha
23 likes@Hellfire missile salesman youtubers have the choice to put skippable or unskippable ads on their videos. You just choose good youtubers to watch.
169 likesOptitron98 closing and reopening the video sometimes works
19 likesAds on YouTube were a mistake, skippable or not,they shouldn't exist.
38 likes@Tarkus They gotta make money somehow, both youtube and the youtubers
116 likesIt is not a bad thing
9 likesOne time I had a 7 minute unskippable ads
14 likesIsn't it the short 10 second ones?
7 likeszxy2271 null around 5-15 seconds but sometimes YouTube messes up and like what I got, you can get an ad that exceeds the limit for a unskippable ad
30 likesJust use adblocker and turn it off and watch and ad if you really want to support a creator.
12 likes@So confused bro that's when you kill the app/page and come back
2 likes@IceInTheSoda Exactly. I recommend Adblock Plus, which is available as a Google Chrome extension.
1 likeAnd more
0 likes@Tarkus wanna pay for youtube?
13 likesads suck, but they're necessary.
I got an 24 hour unskippable shit fest a while back
6 likesAnd I gotta be honest I fucking love adblock now
YouTube has a big ad problem!
1 likeUNSKIPPLEABLE ADS
@Aetheros they get money from watch time!
0 likesD O U B L E
4 likesA D S
Do you know what cable is
1 likeI was reading this during an unskippable ads
1 like15 second unskippable ads about how vaping is a fucking sin against all that breathes, or about a shit game on the AppStore that the “dev” spent 14 minutes on with assets from deviantart should be punishable by death
4 likesIf you skip all the way to the end and replay thr video, it'll drop all of the ads
1 likeImagine not using an adblocker.
1 likebrave browser has built in adblock for desktop and mobile. combine that with sponsorblock (skips in video ads) and you get to use youtube the way you want to. entertainment, not advertisement.
1 likeDon't forget the reminders to use premium, music, and tv every hour
6 likesAnd getting the same three ads for weeks
And keeping the premium features on your menus
And marking videos that have "shared revenue" for having music as music so you can't get around paying for premium with the picture-in-picture feature built into your device (this one might just be me)
And marking the ad as something you don't want to see anymore, only for the next two ads to be the exact same one. Not just for the same thing, the exact same advertisement. (Why even have the system if it doesn't function?)
laughs in premium
1 like@Gabe Elkins laughs in uBlock Origin and YouTube Vanced
3 likes@So confused I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe.
0 likes@Wandering Exo ok ur not even trying to hide ur lie at this point.
0 likes@Incognito\ I’m perfectly fine with that, hell I may just have been an idiot and it may have just hit 0:07 and I didn’t read it right but I swear it was a unskipable 7 minute poorly made car insurance ad that I saw in 2017
0 likesImagine not having adblocker
1 likeCertain companies have unskippable ads now
0 likes@David Fox Not anymore
0 likesJust use youtube vanced
0 likesLittle did you know unskippable ads aren't a bad thing or a big deal
0 likesAds are how YouTube keeps YouTube free, and they support the creators by giving them ad revenue.
0 likesim surprised on how many people dont use adblock
2 likes@Matthew Christie how so? It‘s similar to private tv networks
0 likesGotta get your commercial reel just like tv :^)
0 likesYou'll complain for a month or two, but ultimately accept the new-norm ;^)
Its not a big deal,baby boy.
0 likes@So confused you know you can just use and addblocker right?
1 like@Futrey I made this comment 7 months ago, genius. You really think my opinion hasn’t changed in 7 months? you wanna tell me what’s changed in 7 months? unskippable ads aren’t a big deal, but they’re annoying as hell. all ads are annoying as hell. now find something better to do.
0 likes@Tarkus How would this website run?
1 likei dont see what the big deal is with unskippable ads, i mean sure they're annoying, but have you ever tried using cable before? Don't ruin your attention span like this
1 like@Abdulrahman Almojil FR tho
1 likeAd blocker advertisement
0 likes@So confused Never had a single ad show to me that was longer than 30 seconds, and I believe it was only two 15 second ones, and it was a one-off scenario
0 likes@Arthur Gonzalez imagine seeing a feature length movie as an ad...
1 like@GameMaker 3_5 Imagine seeing an ad longer than the video you're trying to watch
0 likesWait, you guys are telling me you don't have an adblocker yet?
0 likes...and the addblockers for mobile devices started to emerge and youtube quivered
0 likesJust use adblocker or vanced
2 likesYoutube Vanced. It's a great thing.
0 likesTake off the video and restart it again until you got a skippable ad or no ad.
0 likesFuck google.
I know. I remember a video I watched years ago, watched it again and got multiple unskippable adds throughout the video. That video was 14 minutes long and took another few minutes to get through it.
0 likesUse adblockers.
0 likesExactly.
0 likesUnlock origin.
I'm flabbergasted that a lot of ppl don't use an addblock or any other add on that obfuscate your presence or disable hidden trackers
*ublock origin
0 likesThe ironic thing is that the people for removing dislikes are disliking the video. Wonder why they did that.
4 likesWhen I saw this video I thought for a moment; "Oh boy just another video explaining why Youtube should bring back dislikes."
4 likesThen I saw that it was posted before dislikes were removed and just "...No way..."
Man, this aged like fine wine...
YouTube doesn't care about the well-being of its creators. If they really did, then they'd tackle the issue of especially small creators getting bullied by large corporations with things such as false copyright claims. But it's easier for them to say "we're doing this thing for you guys!" and not listen as those same people chastise the decision.
13 likesWow, Emp your predictions always age like fine wine
3 likesWithout dislikes
2198 likesThe long held and respected game of the Neutral Response will come to an end.
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If there is anything in this world to give your life for it is the sanctity and prosperity of NR. Praise be.
77 likesIT'S THE MAN WITH A MUSTACHE!
8 likesIf that’s true, then nothing in the world will be perfectly balanced. There will be chaos and anarchy
41 likeswhat if he ironicly hid the dislikes on this video?
8 likesI HAVE NO STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
31 likes@Croí Saor I HAVE NO STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT YOUR COMMENT.
7 likesThanos video is still balanced as all things should be
5 likesOh shit
0 likes@Bryan Manuel Baes aye, which video?
0 likesthat is what i was about to right XD
2 likesIf only we could take all the likes away in that event.
0 likesNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesI see you on almost every fuckin video I see
0 likesI was just thinking about that
0 likes@Bryan Manuel Baes Link?
0 likesDestiny will take course of the game.
0 likesHoly shit is it just me or does this comment have exactly 666 likes
0 likesIf YouTube deletes dislikes, tell my wife "hello".
2 likesI have no strong feelings about that one way or another
0 likesNo one's played the game in 3.months. look at the like to dislike ration
0 likesI left a dislike to wish the dislike button goodbye
0 likesI will literally have nothing to live for without NR
0 likesI have no strong feelings about this comment
1 likeI have no strong feelings about that.
0 likesI got banned from a discord for neutral response
0 likesWhere does this guy NOT show up?
0 likesYou look familiar yet different...have we met somewhere?
2 likesIt has officially come to an end sadly
4 likesThe more things change, the more they stay the same…
2 likesdamn this man predicted the future
3 likeswonder how he's feeling now
I just wanted to rewatch this very reasoning masterpiece after YouTube actually did remove dislikes. I absolutely agree with this video.
0 likesI couldn’t be sadder to say that you were right
4 likesThe nail in the coffin for the “comments are better feedback” argument: if a video had 1000 comments would you rather: A:have to spend hours reading them individually. Or B: see that there’s 600 dislikes and say to yourself “maybe I did something wrong” within the timespan of only a few seconds. Any ideas anyone?
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Well, in the spirit of what Emp is saying, if people see a comment they like and agree with, (especially if its on a controversial video) they will like the comment. If enough people agree with that sentiment, it will be brought to the top of the comment section, along with all the others that the creator can see how much people like.
3 likesThe only message that dislikes convey are Good and Bad. Not very descriptive wouldn't you say? For example, if I were to dislike your comment (assume that you could see that it was disliked for this example), the only thing it does is say that I don't agree, but WHY I don't agree. Dislikes by themselves only comment on what a person is saying by saying "Comment Bad," rather than a genuine explanation that someone has to put time into.
Also, people who care more to actually look at comments and choose one or multiple to like shows more care and justification than the opinions of those who are able to click dislike with no effort or thought necessary.
Read all the comments I dare you
1 like@Narthar you highly overestimate the intelligence of the average internet user. Literally just take a look at twitter. Go on, find a highly controversial tweet and read through the entire comment section. See if you can make any sense of it. Nobody does that now so why would it magically apply to YouTube?
20 likesIn all honesty, not one to endorse removing dislikes by themselves, but I would argue that a well thought out, descriptive comment about what the uploader did right and wrong with the video could provide better feedback than any rating could.
1 likeHowever, like Lemon implied, most people who comment probably don’t choose to do that, and for those that do, their comments may not stay on top and be read by the uploader.
There is one thing I would argue though (controversial opinion of mine):
Personally, I favor the old star scale over likes and dislikes, and would favor reinstating that, with all ratings being filterable via another function.
There are a number of videos I’ve watched where I honestly have a mixed opinion of over the years for a variety of reasons, and a simple like or dislike wouldn’t really express my opinion well, and there are also videos that I liked that I feel deserve a higher rating than others I also liked, and similar things could be said about my dislikes.
That’s just my opinion though.
@Fries I mean, they half added back the star system, but yeah I agree that would actually be better on all videos
0 likes@Cosmic space thing How did they half add back the star system?
0 likesI mean - I do have a Spare amount of time of reading every comment individually, so why not?)
0 likesYou know the video is good when its aged like wine TWICE in its lifetime. 🍷🍷
2 likesThey're doing it. I thought comment dislikes going away was frustrating, but this is a while other level
10 likesAnd the one thing that helped the site gain credibility in opinion, will be gone. RIP, Emp you were absolutely right.
1 likeI guess that there is only one way to find out if a video is horrible now:
5 likesIf the comments are disabled.
Never ever has been a "Yikes" more fitting than now.
3 likesAlso r.i.p to the term "ratio"
the only thing that didn't age well with this video was the keemstar intro, but then again, it just reminds us how old of an issue this has been. We really need dislikes more than ever, once dislikes are removed I gave a feeling other video sharing websites will genuinely have a chance to survive.
1 likeIt’s been two years since this was posted and YouTube STILL haven’t learned their lesson yet
2 likesMaybe someone will have to be a dislike button now lmao. This was seriously one of the worst decisions youtube has ever made.
4 likesHow ironic that people who want the dislike button removed disliked this video.
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🤔 Wait what if they do It to kiss It's goodbye just in case?
82 likesI think half of em just disliked because its funny
267 likesI'm tempted to leave a dislike just because I agree and think the video has valid points, so want to support the dislike button.
145 likesI support the dislike button, so it's really a like in a way by disliking the vid
49 likesIrrelevant, but I'm the 420th person to like your comment.
2 likes@Pseudonyme F Yes i disliked because i am mr funny man.
7 likesI kind of want to leave a dislike because of the bizarre unfunny (imo) humor that also can be really loud. I like his videos but man the weird jump cuts with discolored simpsons just bother me.
3 likesI actually fully agreed with what emplemon was saying and really liked his video, but I disliked it to support the dislike button
10 likesgood point. just like flat-earthers using the globe as a reference
0 likesit's a meme
0 likesHis data is shitty, so I disliked.
1 likeI disliked to honour the dislike.
4 likesThe video is about how useful dislikes are and yet a thousand people liked one of those "shame the dislikers" memes. I swear to god...
1 likeI disliked to show my approval.
1 like99 I mostly disliked because I disagreed with the arguments made. I agree with the main argument, though.
0 likesI DISLIKE THIS
0 likeswait why isnt this count
C'MON
Disliked for the VPN
0 likesAnd i disliked you're video for liking likes which likes the people who hate the dislike. #Madlad
0 likesI disliked it just for the meme
0 likes@Pseudonyme Fpretty much
0 likes@fetchstix™ I disliked it for that reason
1 likeI disliked it ironically tho
0 likes99 I disliked to support
0 likesWell, here we are. The downward spiral has finalized. I guess YouTube is "not super democratic." There's an extension that reenables dislikes, but that API will apparently be lost by 13 Dec. RIP
6 likesand i present to you a world where "a troll" makes more sense than the rest of the people, this aged like wine.
1 likeThis video being controversial tier like-wise is a nice proof of concept
2 likeshere's the thing about the downward spiral
4 likesit never ends
I can’t tell if the dislikes are from people disagreeing or people just exercising their right to dislike, but either way gods speed soldiers
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I disliked because Emp should like that.
24 likesI disliked to honour dislikes. That doesn't mean I dislike the video.
10 likesEmp tried to warn us… we didn’t listen.
6 likesEmp's we need you in our time of need
1 likegive us your opinion once more on
Youtube's dogshit handaling of this platform
Once again, emplemon has predicted the future.
3 likes"Let's hope they listen"
12 likesNOPE
This aged perfectly. YouTube is now removing dislikes.
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More prove that YouTube doesn't give too shits about the users enjoyment
61 likes@Random Serbian Guy Well, you heard the part about how it's slimy manipulations and corporate agenda disliked the most. Youtube doesn't mind the first one and likes the latter, because of money obviously
34 likesWait really?
5 likes@Snowmaske's Dead Channel yep.
5 likesI hope it’s an early April fools joke
2 likes@Tahfy no it's already here for some people
4 likestheyre not
8 likes@Random Serbian Guy two
1 like@Mason Edwards no one pushes real leftist ideals lol they push what they think is maximizes their profits so in reality it’s a capitalist idea so if u hate ppl pandering to minorities you should be against capitalism because they only pander because it works for the majority of the population . Real leftist ideals is the dismantlement of capitalism thus going against all private property and means of maximizing profits . 👍🏾 hope you learned some
18 likes@Gleveland yup. Many examples of YouTube blatantly breaking actual laws and their own rules and thinking they can get away with it because they own the site
0 likes@Mason Edwards why you gotta bring politics bro?
5 likesOr using bots to spam likes.
0 likesMy feeling is people pointed out dislikes when they can't come up lol with anything interesting to say 😁
0 likesThey are? Where? They're still around.
1 likeI remember there was a drag queen add that was dislike and I agree with the people that don’t wanna see lgbt in there recommended
2 likesWHAT, THEY ARE?!
0 likes@Commandosoap777 Capitalism and communism are sides of the same coin.
0 likeshaha no
1 likeHas it happened yet?
0 likes//UPDATE 11-11-2021//
okay, they did it
@El Sakamoto que duerme they removed them for a period of time, and then added them back
0 likesIt happened today
1 likeJust happened :(
3 likes@El Sakamoto que duerme It's being rolled out now. It's only a matter of time before the change affects everyone.
4 likesYou got that right 7 MONTHS AGO1?/!?!?
3 likes@Sygneg 7 months ago, they were already testing the removal of the dislikes. Now they're 100% going through with it.
0 likesI dreaded the day this prophecy came to pass. Now that it has, I'm glad. 15 second unskippable ads, back-to-back ads, sh*t recommendation feed, and now this. The camel's back hasn't broken just yet, but if this keeps up then the days of my YouTube addition are numbered.
4 likesI'll be a happier and more productive person for it, once YouTube finally does something completely intolerable.
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Why don't ppl use ublock origin ?
0 likesI don't understand why would someone torture themselves with ads
It’s insane how well this video has aged, profit Emp does it again
0 likesImagine how censored the internet will be in like year 2030
3 likesThis aged well
6 likesIt's pretty straight forward at this point.
278 likesYouTube has no intentions on designing the website to be user or creator friendly. They have been slowly changing the site into an algorithm hell of sponsored/suggested videos, and with the way they have monitored their own dislike system already feels like the goal here is to control and manipulate people's opinions and behaviors. Facebook's already doing it, and that's the reason why that place is a far worse algorithm hell. I wouldn't anticipate change but I appreciate that Youtubers spend time to make videos that help everyone get on the same page, or even become more aware of what's going on right now on the website. Why wouldn't YouTube want to remove the dislike button & meter? They have the most disliked videos on their own website.
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@Shnouth Before I even watch this video, you're telling me something as simple and practically harmless as a dislike is making someone suicidal?
3 likessubscroobed
0 likes@Balz .K they?
0 likesI know this is still relevant as shit now, but I thought about something. Videos are a product, they should be able to give you something, may it be better understanding on something or just entertainment, they are a product, if I can't see that there was people who didn't like this product, how I know it does work or is useful? Bring dislikes back YouTube.
2 likessusan fell down some stairs as a kid and got some major brain damage
12 likesIt's happening. No more dislikes.
6 likesIt's a real shame that Youtube has shown time and time again that it prefers its own corporate interest as opposed to the interest of the Youtube community.
1 likeIf they remove dislikes, then they should remove likes as well.
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Agreed
35 likesAnd comments.
56 likesIf they remove dislikes then ratio-ing will become a thing though.
42 likesWithout dislikes, likes OR comments, YouTube will indeed become the next/alternative television, just like EmpLemon said in his “YouTube on a Downward Spiral” video.
42 likesAn_Annoying_Cat now that’s perfectly balanced
7 likesI mean... There's already a feature that does exactly that.
0 likesI mean they already removed dislikes from comments
15 likesI mean, he does explain how reddit is just as much, if not more, of a cesspool because of that
0 likes@PurelySatire On second thought, fuck playing videos too.
5 likesOn YouTube there’s only positivity
0 likesWithout a balance, there will be an inbalance and no one likes an unbalanced society
2 likesIT'S WORTH IT TO GET RID OF GOODTHINK IF IT ALSO REMOVES BADTHINK!!!
3 likeslike Yin and yang.
0 likesYed
0 likesYouTube will become TV.
1 likeJust wait for it.
this post makes me feel completely neutral
0 likesdisliking comments doesnt do a thing anyways - just going to happen to videos as well
0 likesThat is a cute cat
0 likesI mean I rarely actually use either, so if all ratings were actually removed it wouldn’t affect me too much.
0 likesfu
0 likesWhat about removing likes, but keeping the dislikes?
1 likeEvan the awesome gamer people also use the word like to compare things
0 likesI disliked the comment out of support
0 likesI dont agree
0 likesRemove subscribers
0 likesI have no strong feeling about this one way or the other.
0 likesThey should just remove all videos in general
0 likes@Hero Puddle A what?
0 likes@Boko Wasn't me who coined it, I had to look it up when I first saw i. Ratioing is somewhat explained in the video, as twitter only shows retweets, likes and comments people gauge how well received a post is by looking at its likes compared to it's comment count.
0 likesBeing back the stars
0 likesThis aged well
6 likesGot to love EmpLemon, Man was our Oracle of Delphi.
2 likesIf the problem is “people coming to a video and disliking it without even watching it”, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just make the weight of a user’s dislike on the total count scale to watch time.
2 likesWe are proud to announce that our new feature of removing dislikes has been a resounding success and made the platform much better overall. No longer will small creators be harassed by unscrupulous and perfidious dislike mobs. As calculated by our researchers, the initial outrage over removing the feature was overrepresented and the vast majority of viewers have grown to accept and even like the new feature.
1 likeIf they're removing the dislike button, they better bring back the star rating system
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I'm not sure why google would do that, If anything I thought google hated old youtube with a passion.
42 likes@Nine Tails ?
12 likesHell yeah!
3 likesOr the upvote downvote system
6 likesI hope so...
3 likesBut then the dISLikE mOBs could spam videos with 1 star ratings!!111!!
15 likes@edible knivess did you just eat edible knives?
3 likes@Copernicus thy Canine yes
3 likesTo think this was at one point 2 month old news that we all sighed in relief at the thought of it going nowhere.
3 likesWelp. They actually gone and did it. GG Youtube.
6 likesIt's official, Nintendo is more reasonable than YouTube (Mario Maker 2 has a dislike button)
4 likesThis video is more important than ever.
5 likes"That's a step closer to twitter and that is NOT somewhere anyone wants youtube to go."
209 likesDamn. That really put things in perspective.
That wine aged so well, that it's saddening.
6 likesit's happening...
this aged well. then again we always knew it would.
2 likesEmpLemon is omniscient, it is official
4 likesI thought they didn't have the guts to do it, but now they've half ruined this place.
3 likesThis aged just as well as a bottle of the finest wine from Côte-d'Or.
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sure did
1 like321 likes
0 likesnice
youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
0 likes@Nikoloz Gilles "right wingers" lmfao no, it's just normal people who disagree with it.
2 likesRemoving the dislike counter is gaslighting 101.
1 likeWhen the dislikes started rolling in on the White House yt channel it was a done deal!
Whelp they actually went and did it
8 likesSeeing Emp going after FoldingIdeas is like watching my parents file for divorce.
0 likesHmm.. YouTube might not be a good company after all
3 likesWho would have guessed
If dislikes were removed, it would be like twitter where a comment disagreeing with the video gets more likes than the video
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That would be pretty funny
22 likesSome of my videos have more likes on the comments than the actual videos
13 likesThat'd add a new view to the video
0 likes"ratio"
11 likesyeah. ratioing the video would probably be the only way if that happened
3 likesI just saw a post on Jonny Arnett’s YouTube channel (a pretty good basketball channel), and he claims they just hid the dislike totals.
2 likesEven so, I can see this video’s dislike total on mobile.
Literally "ratio"
1 likeWelcome to 1984
2 likes@Riah big brother is watching.
2 likesBut here's the problem: you can turn off comments on YouTube. You can't on Twitter.
3 likesWell, looks like this will be the new norm.
2 likes@4nt only people @belk mentioned can reply.
0 likesWell. This aged like a fine wine.
4 likesNow that dislikes are gone, this is the first time where I've actually considered deleting YouTube...
2 likes16:20 This is the dystopian future we now find ourselves in.
4 likesYou know, I thought I was gonna be content with that little extension that gives my dislikes back, but I feel as if it's going to resemble the comment dislike but with a counter. Think of it from a guy that doesn't have the dislike-returner or whatever you'd like to call it. Yes, I can dislike, but why would I if it doesn't show up to the majority of people as useful information? This means, as the person with the extension that gives your dislikes back, you STILL don't get an accurate rating of the video with the snap of a finger and have to dig through the.. comment section. Yeah. I'm going off of an assumption that not everyone is going to try to bypass this and youtube is going to maintain their position on this one, though. Maybe everyone gets the extension. Maybe dislikes come back due to backlash. Hell, the extension may be removed. I don't know, and I just want the damn dislike button back.
1 likeworst possible timeline
22 likesI watched this video and a day later dislikes are no longer public on many accounts, including one of mine. As of now, this video has 11k dislikes.
3 likes5:05 this is a good calculation Downs arrangement YouTube, should really easily benefit this accuracy the seriously!
5 likesyou called it soooo hard and holy hell you were so right
3 likesWithout dislikes how else are we gonna meme this year's Youtube Rewind?
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Yeah no dislikes YouTube is indeed bullshit not just because of the Rewind fiasco.
9 likesI would say people would just comment "dislike" but they'll probably disable those too
13 likesMass flag?
15 likesmass flag for sure.
14 likesAre there any repercussions for that? to the accounts that flag? I mean either way I'm down. I'm just wondering how many alt accounts I should use lol
9 likesComment with hate
4 likesJust comment REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE on it and they should get the message
5 likesJust get someone to act as the dislike button.
3 likes@The Purity of Chaos I like the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE screech better so why not both
5 likesWe type dislike in their comment section
1 likeDammitSinged We can bomb next year’s Rewind with flags
2 likes@data wing the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is too powerful? What am I saying? Of course it is
1 likeThere is no point in linking the dislike removal with the failure of the youtube rewind. There is no actual eviadance proving this, don't get me wrong it is a compelling theory but it is a theory and therefore should be treated as one and not as fact.
0 likesAnd now it's official.
7 likes2 years in the future and I appreciate dislikes more then ever.
1 likeyoutube is on it's own downwards spiral into
4 likes...whatever the fuck it's becoming
Y'know, I used to watch Olson. I liked his movie reviews and some of his social commentary. Eventually I stopped and unsubbed for a few years. When I came back, I remembered why I unsubbed in the first place. He's a self righteous, insufferable ass lol
1 likeYouTube: Removes dislikes
2982 likesPeople: Comment dislike
YouTube: Removes comments
People: Make videos saying dislike
YouTube: Removes videos
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68 likeshey what did you do to hornet?
9 likesPeople: Makes channels saying dislikes
91 likesYouTube: Removes channels
And that my friends is the story how Youtube Died
51 likesThis comment is in reverse chronological order.
9 likesYou see I pulled a sneaky one on ya
0 likesAsk InfoWars about removing videos, lolz
0 likesTbh removing videos is not realistic, but removing the option to upload is (e) thanks (e) to article 13
3 likesYouTube: We did it, Dislikes are no more
1 likeIf this site goes down, we're gonna be the one to destroy it for them.
0 likesIt's a vicious cycle.
0 likesPeople: Make websites saying dislike
2 likesYouTube: Removes All Websites
Sounds about right
0 likesPeople: Saying dislike Irl
1 likeYouTube: Thanos snap twice and destroys everybody
People:
If this happens I'll believe Youtube's going down their own downward spiral
0 likesEveryone: Boycotts YouTube
0 likesPeople: hack the website to say dislike
2 likesYouTube:*deletes YouTube *
that would make youtube useless
0 likesHacks youtube to say dislike
0 likesI want to dislike, but your argument is valid.
0 likesigged
0 likes@AscendedProduce
0 likesPeople: Makes web browsers saying dislike
YouTube: Removes the internet
And, thus;
1 likeYoutube Died. Lost money. And, everyone saw google as a joke.
*changes name to SafeTube
0 likesMere exposure effect
1 likeZenlarrus Hiro They call this maneuver “Steel Reihn”
1 likePerhaps that is the case of why YouTube is so filled with dislike bots
1 likePeople: move to bitchute
1 likeHeh 😏 69
1 likeas if comment dislikes do anything. Back in the early days they used to remove a thumbs up, like on reddit. Now a days it does jack all. Steam does this same practice. Think a review on Steam sucks? well down voting it is useless. Oh if you say its funny that counts! You can't downvote artwork either. Why is the button there if it does nothing? The illusion of choice? Just like a telltale game...
1 likepeople: makes a new website about why you dislike a video
0 likesyoutube: removes you and youtube
People: go to Vimeo to say dislike
0 likesYouTube: uh oh
YouTube: removes itself
0 likes@Ndio Africa R/woooosh
0 likesdislike
0 likesThe Hollow Knight --- It can't removed videos, but "restricte" words in video title. (aka you can't upload video with "dislike" in title)
0 likeslike
0 likesWho would have known that 2 years later he was right. Sad that this company has done so much wrong but still gets accepted. I hate how they have gone for a more business oriented company instead of the small engaging one. Now it leaves youtubers like emp in the dust.
2 likesJust because you can predict the future doesn't mean you can prevent it
3 likesOf all the words of tongue and pen
1 likeThese are the saddest:
"EmpLemon was right again"
youtube certainly didnt get the memo, huh
8 likesJesus Christ it’s finally happened. You were right all along you madman.
3 likesThis is it Luigi.
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Shit, Luigi! We gotta do it all over again.
0 likesBring dislikes back.
6 likesRewatching this now that they're gone :(
4 likesWe need a follow up lol
4 likesWow, can't dislike this video now
4 likesWelp, they did it
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Yup. Dislikes are now only going to be visible for uploaders and no one else.
0 likesI disliked this video out of solidarity
2 likesOh boy, if only we knew back then.
2 likesI came here because the return YouTube dislikes extension stopped working for me. This company is garbage they don't care about there creators or viewers, I don't even think in this case that advertisers cared they're just shooting there reputation. Sadly their is not one good competitor I'm willing to use so this is what im stuck with.
2 likesLike em?
2 likesI can't even SEE em!
#1984iscoming
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@Ross Orange just lost em like a day or two ago. Terrible decision on youtube's part
0 likesKINDA NON SUPER DEMOCRATIC
2 likesI love how most of the top comments are from 2-3 days ago. Goes to show that history goes in similar circles all the time.
2 likesThis video is more important now than it has ever been before.
2 likesThe Youtube Prophet
2 likesWhy did youtube disable dislike thay axt like they did bot but they pretty mutch did
1 likeMy man was in the future
1 likeman.
1 likeWhen I noticed that people have been losing the dislikes I immediately went to this video and oh god it’s happened
1 likefunny its poping out on my recomended when its relevent
1 like81k to 11k dislikes, good example
1 likeHow funny that this is reccomended to me now
1 likeIt is censorship
2 likesYour general point about how yt shouldn't remove dislikes is right but your dismissal of big communities easily mass disliking creators completely ignores the point and jumps into the top 10 most disliked videos, which aren't the problem. In fact, they are one of the very few places where the dislike button works as it should. You can't extrapolate that into million subscriber and lower creators/videos. Especially not if you start by claiming highly disliked videos should be assumed controversial or bad.
2 likesThe like/dislike ratio is barely usable. It needs a rework, not bland unreliable reasons for its existence like you do on this video.
Guess it doesn't matter anyways. The big corporate entity did the thing that benefits its big corporate stunts.
THE PROPHET!!!!
0 likesThis video aged like fine wine
0 likeshere, have my very useless like, internet stranger who made a very poignant video!
0 likes:(
0 likesThis video speaks as if it already happened
0 likesSpam the fuck out of Youtube with this.
0 likes;)
0 likesI can see them on certain videos for now.
0 likesFor now.
at least there's a extension that brings back dislikes
0 likesand whats the deal with the 11k dislikes here
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I think any video talking about dislikes will get disliked more because it's funny and ironic
4 likesI never understood why people dislike videos because they disagree with it. The like and dislike buttons should be about the quality of the video.
0 likesHoly shit! It's the guy who runs the Nerds for Yang channel!!
0 likesSuggest
0 likesEveryone Who disliked this just wanted to use it one more time
0 likesWell this aged well
0 likesSo why did you disable your ratings then?
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youtube did
6 likesif he had disabled his ratings, you wouldn't have been able to see his likes either.
3 likesjordan the whole youtube has no dislikes now
1 like@じゃま yea no shit thats the joke
0 likesYouTube: *removes dislike button
1234 likesYouTubers: *start adding strawpolls to their descriptions/pinned comments
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That's... Actually a really good idea if that goes through. Then you could ask any questions to your audience as well.
64 likesStrawpolls are easily bottable
24 likesInb4 external youtube video searching and rating site that embeds youtube videos lol. I can't wait.
9 likesThanks Jonathan Joestar, di molto.
4 likesPolls in info card?
4 likesYoutube: *removes strawpolls
4 likesYoutubers: *why
Wompa Stompa
6 likesModern problem require modern solutions
Goodbye JoJo
0 likesWhy can't Youtube just implement a way to fight against dislike botting instead of straight up removing the button?
0 likes@Zwedgy because fuckin likes and dislikes aren't easily bottable
0 likesSee the only problem with that is the scummy you tubers who deserve dislikes the most wont do that because they don’t want people to dislike their shit
0 likes2019: The return of the 5-star system
0 likesmrs obama it's been an honor
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Goodbye, Skipper
50 likesRIP dislikes o7
6 likesRip
1 likeMe: YouTube would never remove the dislike button!
10 likesYouTube: Not if I have anything to say about it, and I do!
This is truly the end. The downward spiral keeps getting worse and worse.
13 likesOBAMA GET DOWN!!
2 likesDid not expect to see you here!
0 likes@IDK Gaming
0 likesNobody expects the Spanishyguy Inquisition!!
Obama beat gudstrat from bonk
0 likeshello people? have you noticed the covid videos that are always ratioed? i think youtube is just mad the covid information videos they've been putting out are getting ratioed by right wingers, (and im not talking about ronaldo) that's the only reason i can think of, we were getting along fine with dislikes before. i can understand but wrecking the whole site like this is like throwing a temper tantrum
2 likesrip honest youtube ratings
0 likeseveryone, can we get an o7
the downward spiral is immense, I'm starting to cope and seethe
0 likes"User criticism can be easily supplemented by the comment section"
2998 likesDisables the comment section
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*Curb your Enthusiasm theme plays*
117 likesI only see comments with the overused "literally no one:" meme its so lame now
99 likesMere exposure effect
1 likeWe need comments
14 likesEven if many are annoying and pointless, that level of direct communication is vital
Also no one gonna read 100+ comments to determine video quality. Plus a lot of criticism or arguments will just get sink on ocean of comments and only most popular will get attention (still not guaranteed, it doesn't always even categorize comments by most upvotes. It's pretty random actually. Like it has it own algorithm, which comment will be on top)
10 likesThis is when you make a video that's just a power point of all the videos you dislike
2 likesPlus like to dislike ratio is much more simple and easy to understand than scrolling through comments
0 likesTime to make a video on why you hate that specific video, then.
1 likeYeah, a lot of comments nowadays are just shitty memes.
0 likesmm yes communism i hate it.
0 likesDeletes YouTube
0 likesEmp you're entering youtube's danger zone. Watch out and good luck
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Get youtube-dl, and archive his content...
2 likesIt's a good way to catch up with old content from creators too!
He's been in th3 danger zone for quite some time.
7 likesAccording to your system this video is in the “controversial tier” that actually is a pretty accurate representation
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I'm pretty sure this video has more dislikes than it should purely because of it's title. Just like how pewdiepie's video where he asked everyone to keep it 50-50 between likes and dislikes is technically in the controversial tier.
157 likes@🌟 Wander the Nomad when I saw the title I thought that dislikes help them get more views or something. I thought he was asking for dislikes at first
20 likesIsn’t it ironic that people are disliking this video... the people who want to remove dislikes
21 likes@luminen Nah nah Wander had the right idea, I wager people see the title and go "lol okay I'll dislike then ha ha I'm funny."
51 likesi think a lot of people disliked for the meme (including me)
15 likes@LexiTHPS Lots of people disliked to support dislikes, actually. I suppose you could call that a checkmate to YouTube removing dislikes, but they're not genuine dislikes, so I dunno, really....
5 likesNa I disliked the video cause I thought it went with the theme of the video, kinda like the neutral response video with equal likes and dislikes
4 likesI disliked the video (and probably a lot of other people did) because Emp likes dislikes, so I’m helping him out
1 likeI don’t see many people actually disagreeing with the message of the video in the comments tbh
0 likes@🌟 Wander the Nomad lol by
0 likeslol ajj
0 likesHow about now?
0 likesYoutube: *Makes the most disliked video on youtube*
2371 likesAlso Youtube: We are removing the dislike feature.
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"i don't wanna play anymore!!"
95 likesJonny oh yeah I forgot about YouTube rewind after 2019 or was it 2020? Well I don't know..
6 likesOk it was 2019
3 likesHonestly I think i'm even more disappointed at Rewind 2019 than 2018. Because at least they tried doing something big on that one, while in the newest rewind they literally made a glorified top 10. And they kept hyping it up saying that pewdiepie was going to be in it, mr beast, etc. And while they technically are in the video. The only thing they did was take random footage from their normal videos, they didn't actually reunite and plan out some sort of funny skit in like the other rewinds. It's lazy and an insult to the community
17 likesOh how the turn tables
5 likes@Chaos Vader how is that possible... the video literally MENTIONS rewind 2018
0 likes@woah dude it appears that chaos Vader is one of the people that block for disagreeing, as they deleted their comment lol. Mind summerizing?
3 likesThat is why they are removing them
0 likesIt always reminds me of when that one kid always says break or gimme a quick break when i was just about to catch him in tag
2 likesDid you even seen the video
0 likes@Alpha Lax yes, he did seen the video; it was a joke. chill
0 likes@u9000 Nine yea but he stole it from the video
0 likes@Alpha Lax oh yeah thats fair actually
0 likessorry
Of course, they are doing this just for the rewind
0 likesSalty
2 likesYoutube essentially became the Butthurt YT Creator disabling the like/dislike button.
1 likeWhy not remove it entirely. So they only LIKE it,
Comments, even negatives are still a plus to their algorithm and attention
This aged fast
0 likes@Neo Wish It aged beautifully
1 likeI use dislikes to know if im being clickbaited
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Sí
2 likesWell, dislikes are gone now, brands won, the public lost.
4 likesthey should at least pick the videos they want to censor.
2 likesfor example: I want to watch tutorial to build/construct something, instead of determining the video if its good by watching the like/dislike ratio, you now have to watch the whole thing to find out. stupid channels will win. channels like those chinese videos who fixes everything with noodles and hot glue. or those channels who put blades on angle grinder. imagine how many injuries will occur.
in I.T. side of youtube will be flooded with uninformed people who barely speak english giving damaging tutorial on Tech and software topics. so many people will be misguided and disappointed.
no to mention a lot of industries. so many people rely on this platform because they're not a computer who can recall the information they need in moment's notice.
a lot of people rely on this platform to learn new skills.
This is like that moment the crazy conspiracy theory video you watched content becomes realized... otherwise known as, I told you so
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Those crazy conspiracy theorists are always right always
1 likeThis video aged like some very expensive wine
4 likes"Seems kinda not super democratic"
8 likesWelp, The thing we despise has now become a reality. The only thing left to do now is go on A DOWNWARD SPIRAL and regret being a Youtuber.
1 likeAll hail Emperor Lemon, the prophet of YouTube
2 likesTHEY'RE FUCKING DOING IT FUCK
7 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL
YouTube: "Guys, you cant just dislike a video without watching the actual video"
1456 likesLogan Paul: Films a dead body
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11 likesREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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3 likes*cough*
4 likesYou guys seriously don't expect A dead body inside A suicide forest?
1 likeOk
0 likesI wasn't able to watch that Logan Paul video before he deleted it. What was the like-to-dislike ratio of that video?
0 likesYouTube: " The people disliking our videos must've come from an angry alt-right mob! "
6 likesAlso YouTube: Shoves political opinions into a video that supposedly celebrates YouTube
@Jared K Reptile Channel: Abuses reptiles
1 likeYouTube: "Guys, you cant just dislike a video without watching the actual video"
1 likeMe: You underestimate my clicktivism and lack of anything better to do with what spare time I get.
Removing dislikes on comments was also a terrible idea that happened a long time ago... it creates comment sections that are echo chambers and cesspools of bigotry because only likes are counted, so they just pile up and up even if there are 3k people who liked the comment and 20k people who would dislike it
2 likesHoping a brilliant dev comes around and creates a viable 3rd party solution, with an external 3rd party dislike (and perhaps likes as well) database, tracked outside of YouTube's official counts. Probably won't be too difficult to implement as a browser add-on, but unfortunately will likely be most difficult to deal with iOS users. Of course for Android, the vanced team would probably be able to implement it, but I doubt such a thing would get published to the official apple app store. I'm not talking about the existing plugin to bring back official dislike counts, which will eventually be patched out / API killed, but a long term solution. Not perfect, it won't account for the vase majority of users, but I really can't think of a viable long term solution otherwise. Removing dislikes is by far the worst decision that has ever been made on this platform, as it affects and can lead to harm for every single end user. But it's still no surprise that it's come to this, smh.
1 likeThis aged well.
4 likesSo glad im not the only one that thought of this video after seeing what YouTube did today
3 likesWithout them, Rewind 2018 wouldn’t be as memed as it is!
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And don't forget that Futurama dislike-like meme.
4 likes@Ames Starline I have no strong feelings one way or another.
2 likeswhy are all of your comments in bold?
0 likes@Mick Why not?
0 likesWE HAVE TO START A REBELLION
5 likesThe downward spiral got bigger when they took it away.
1 likeThankfully, I still have the dislike button and the green/red colors!
This video aged like wine, simply beautiful
1 likeHE PREDICTED IT ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY EMPLEMON HE IS OUR NEW GOD WE MUST WAIT FOR HIS INSTRUCTION!
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Check out the enclosed instruction book.
1 likeAfter today's YouTube official tweet, we need you back Emp.
274 likesDespite the fact that this video was about news that was two months old, this video has aged incredibly.
0 likesWelp here go towards the downward spiral we go
5 likesThis aged well
4 likesI literally came to this video just to see if YouTube removed the dislikes from it yet. Let us all look at the 11K dislikes on this video and think of a better time of YouTube.
1 likeI guess what we have to do now is type "dislike" and the reason why we dislike the video in the comments,
6 likesbut here we are and they actually did it. I will miss this button a lot. From now on I will dislike every single video I see as a form of protest against this system.
1 likeemperorlemon it happened they softly removed dislikes
6 likescoming back to this video, you know why
5 likesPeople who don't like dislikes: dislike the video
1989 likes*visible confusion*
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What does Obi-Wan Kenobi have to do with that
22 likesI disliked to be ironic.
22 likes@Dillon Blair "Cringe"
0 likesMere exposure effect
0 likesThey literally proved his point
14 likesi just did it for the meme
8 likesSuch a meta comment
0 likes@D Hufflepuff You realize that hurts the video's performance in the algorithm, right?
3 likes@Kiwi Was Once Here Emp literally just said there's no evidence proving dislikes affect performance in the algorithm.
14 likesI just think he puts too much emphesis on the dislike and doesn't mention how much public opinion is swayed by other things. Dislikes dont mean that much, people will still be able to get their opinions out
0 likes@iseemtobelost if that the case then from 2017 most people started to getting hated by the YouTube rewind for obvious reasons and they're vocal about their opinion but YouTube didn't listen until 2018 were rewind became the most disliked video on the platform...
0 likes@• Observer The rewinds before didn't get as many dislikes and wasn't as hated. Idk I just find it hard to belive that youtube only cared because of the dislikes and not because everyone hated it and would express their opinion either way.
1 likeThis video assumes that dislikes are the only way to show discontent that matters but if you think about it, it makes no sense.
Shady Sam r/wooosh?
0 likesShowing solidarity for the cause 😉
0 likesRip my dislikes, they finally vanished today ...
5 likesA Firefox addon called Return Youtube Dislike Stats. It restores or rather lets you see the overall number of dislikes.
3 likesContender for best video that aged like fine wine
13 likesI know youtube has made pretty awful changes in the past but REMOVING DISLIKES?! That's just way too far! At this point, tick tok is more appropriate website.
2 likesSo YouTube have started to "test" removing the dislikes. Who'd have guessed.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that their "test" will yield overwhelmingly positive results.
11 likes@massContinuity called it
1 likeAfter a week, it finally happened for me, RIP dislikes
2 likesI looked at how many dislikes there are on this video to see how many people rooted for getting rid of dislikes but then I remembered that they made the dislike button invisible
1 likeHey you, you're awake. . .
2 likesWait what, youtube with a dislike system?
A world without corporate sanitization?
You must have had quite a fall.
Huh. Almost like this video is very important right now…
5 likesI have a feeling that if they do get remove the dislike button then people are gonna use thumbs down emojis on the comment section to describe a dislike
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Then they’ll get rid of the thumbs down emoji.
9 likes@Jackson Gibbs THEY SPAM THE WORD DISLIKE
11 likesTurn off dislikes and turn off comments. Gotta make sure that eco chamber is bound up nice and tight
7 likes@Decrona and then they just make videos about how they dislike a video.
1 likeI don't really understand why Emp would single out Dan Olsen and Quinton Reviews? Whilst I agree that dislikes shouldn't be disabled by default I think it should be fine for a creator to choose to turn them off. Tbh it came off more like Emp just personally disagreed with some of Dan and Quinton's beliefs or was salty that Quinton blocked him on Twitter. Emp has the right to his opinion but Dan also has the right to his, maybe he was wrong about dislikes in some ways but the attacks on him in this video seem a little petty.
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my thoughts exactly. also thought the counterargument to "dislike mobs" was a bit disingenuous, by looking at the most disliked videos. 99% of youtubers are not jake paul or world famous pop stars... of course they wouldn't have the highest amount of dislikes on wikipedia?
3 likesI'm from the future, it's sadly happening
7 likesWell now they're finally removing them. Dislikes are still up for me at the moment, so I'll report the ones on this video:
4 likesAs of commenting, this video has 80,056 likes and 11,095 dislikes.
I knew it was bound to happen one of these years...
2 likesWhy don’t we remove the like button
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Why dont we just remove videos as a whole
101 likesTriStar thinking too small, we gotta remove the internet
66 likeslegotroop Small Plebian thoughts, computers must go too.
40 likeswhy not remove all fucking electricity huh?
44 likesi think its about time we remove all new technologies for the past 300 hundred years
34 likeshow about the earth?
28 likesexactly, i've contacted youtube several times and they never listen! finally someone else out there that understands this issue!
13 likesRemove the solar system.
26 likesLet’s remove all intelligent life in the universe
24 likes@Gimpy Knee Sac TOO SMALL just remove anything that exsists
14 likesthey'll add a heart
6 likesRemove the concept of removal itself
15 likeswhy dont we remove youtube?
6 likesRemove the entire multivers
6 likesWanted to like your comment but then I took your proposition to heart and pretended there's no button to do so.
6 likesRemove all matter and anti-matter, followed by the concept of existence, space and time
5 likesPucci! Why do you want to reset the universe?
5 likesPucci:
Just remove everything that ever existed
3 likesWhy not remove the universe?
1 likeOk, that's it, [ZA HANDO]
2 likesTime to bite za dusto
1 likeRemove removal
2 likesRemove the bell and like button so youtubers stop going on about it
1 like@chubeviewer sounds great
2 likesLets remove all progrecion we made until now
0 likesOne of the most accurate predictions of the future i’ve ever seen
1 likethis video aged like fine wine.
4 likesOh boy I would love an update and have an hour long rant about how he was right
0 likesI swear we always have to talk with YouTube about this every half a year
0 likesHow the youtube staff meeting preceeding this discussion went:
851 likes"The dislike button makes it too easy for people to silence their opponents, which is bad because only we should get to decide who gets silenced."
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But the thing is, dislikes don't silence people. A person can get disliked to hell and back, but that doesn't effect their ability to just keep doing the same thing over and over again.
34 likes@schtipadoo At least we can reply to them, and normally people like the comments rivaling the original comment, so I would say it's very easy to show your opinion with or without the dislike button on comments.
2 likesAyyyyyy nice!
0 likes@gapple * stars would probably be the same thing. Low ratings wouldn't be pushed as hard. I don't agree with silencing but if someone things your anti blm points are dumb or something as simple as YouTube rewind how else are we gonna express it's terrible
0 likes@Collin McLaren exactly lol
0 likesThis video aged like fine wine
4 likesBoy, this aged fantastically.
2 likesWow this video must be amazing if it has absolutely no dislikes
1 likeToday we just got the news that your prediction was correct, say goodbye to dislikes (thanks YouTube overlords).
2 likesOn the “dislikes are coming from people who haven’t even watched 5 seconds” argument, it’s correct, however I often watch sections from controversial videos on reactionary videos, dislike, and watch the video in its entirety later.
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Links?
1 likeYouTube has done it, emplemon says the truth!
1 likeGod damn this is so relevant it feels like a kick in the nuts
2 likesWell they've done it they've really actually done it
2 likesTHEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
2 likesI was about to check in which category this video falls on and then i realize there are no dislikes. You cant make this shit up!
0 likesfunny enough, this is at 88%, which lines up with the "controversial tier" of 89-80 percent
1 like2 years later and it's finally happening
4 likesthis video predicted the future and AGED LIKE LEGENDARY WINE 15:00
3 likesJust coming back to reflect on how right you were. Pain.
1 likeOne very respected creator who always disables ratings is slackerVK, dude just wants to make guitar covers, and he does an excellent job.
0 likes5:10 - I always surmised that a 10:1 Like:Dislike ratio is when it starts going downhill on average. I studied it a lot lol.
1 likeEdit: 5:40 - OMG ILY, we're on the same page fam.
Looks like the dislikes are removed Forever
5 likeshey emp
1 likecan i borrow the time machine that you use to make videos that exactly predict the future.
i mean how else can you explain this being 100% accurate to what happened in 2022
At least algorithm seems to disobey its creators / Masters
3 likeswow this man is too powerful.
2 likesIf they actually remove the dislike button Im gonna lose it, I will dislike every single video I see from now on to my grave
1 likeEmp just predicted the future.
2 likeshonestly haven't liked a video in ages, and kinda felt guilty for not participating. Great content! Your boi, high boi, sent me this way
0 likesRIP. It's all about YT protecting companies. Moneymoneymoneymoneymoney
2 likesLiterally PewDiePie did a can we hit 1 million dislikes video in 2016 now with the dislike button gone the video won't make sense
3 likesHe tried to warn us.
5 likesSorry, Emp, we did our best.
3 likesif you dislike this video, like the comment. Use it for the sake of just remembering dislikes in the first place
3 likesGonna miss seeing Dramaalert's dislike ratio go up every now and then
1 likeOh well
This reminds me of the fixed vs. growth mindset thing.
0 likesIN EXTREMELY CLOSE BEFORE 1M, we gotta spread this out MORE.
2 likesJust came back here to remember when this was just a warning and not complete prophesy :(
2 likesUnfortunately, this aged like a fine fucking whiskey
3 likesHilarious that this pops up in my feed today
8 likesHmmmm, I'm seeing some channels like Emps with Dislikes still, but a lot of other channels like legacy media's dislikes are gone, is it a choice a channel can do, or will they all soon be invisible?
1 likeIf there's anything that's aged better than wine it's this video.
2 likesEmp tried to warn us, but we didn't listen!
2 likesnot sure if people actually disagree with him or just want to press that dislike button for lulz..
3 likesWhos here after youtube literally did what this video said
5 likesThis is disappointing now, you can't see the dislike bar anymore.
4 likesI came right back to this video today. Emp Lemon, your a prophet.
1 likeThis aged well
3 likesThe most important observation comes at 15:30. This is what it's all about.
1 likeCorrect once again Emperor Lemon. Correct once again.
2 likesThis video is more relevant now than ever before. You are ahead of your Time EmpLemon
0 likesSo, who's coming back to this video after the announcement?
5 likesTo funny thanks to the big-guy in US office... and legacy media complaining to google... we are here now, at least the creator still can see the dislikes.
2 likesWell this aged well
3 likesEmpLemon is a prophet, confirmed
2 likesthe fact that people disliked this video prove his point
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TheKoolKidz fair enough
9 likes@HentaiHistorian he stated thay in the video.
5 likesThis aged like fine wine and milk at the same time
1 likeWow this aged like a fine wine.
2 likes3:50 "Dislike Mobs" do not and have not existed. Nobody has that many friends these days lol
2 likesWe should try to get dislikes back. The viewers of youtube are the lifeblood of the platform and we deserve to have our voices heard!
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you're still here tho
0 likesIronic how probably at least half of the dislikes were by people who wanted dislikes removed.
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@Ape God me too
5 likesNah, I disliked it because it’s ironic
23 likesAnd the rest are just trolling bc of the video
5 likes"Yeah, the dislike mob!!!"
1 likeDidn't you watch the video?
@sweaty ba11s me 三
1 likeYouTube is joining… THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL
3 likesEvery day we stray more and more to Twitter.
3 likesI know I adore them on reddit where if you don't put /s at the end of even the most mildly facetious comment it gets dogpiled.
3 likesThe downward spiral has reached its breaking point
1 likeI can't tell if people are disliking the video to show support for the dislike button, or if they're disliking it to dislike it, but either way it only prove Empy right.
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The only people who actively want the dislike button gone. Are those who have extremely controversial opinions and actively get disliked a lot. Or more the ones who aren't used to their controversial opinions being opposed.
0 likesThe fact they have now completely deleted the dislike button, has also led to a huge increase in scam videos. People selling products, links, and apps that literally do nothing, and people who get scammed leave comments, but people who don't but realize what it is leave dislikes. Now you don't even get to see how many people don't trust new products.
1 likeI fucking hate that this had to age well
4 likesWe need a new platform, youtube is a sinking ship and the captain is ordering the crew to make more holes
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Tiktok is bodying them honestly
0 likesthere is gonna be a follow up video about this since now youtube made the worst mistake in the companies history. but removing dislikes
1 likeI thought it was kinda weird to make an example out of Dan Olson until you showed he was an actual youtuber putting his opinions out there and turning off ratings and not just a guy on Twitter
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To be fair, there are tons of Twitter users that shouldn't even have a YouTube channel due to their toxicity.
30 likesWhat kind of videos does Olson make?
0 likes@Fries Analyses on media (film, TV shows, sometimes games) and politics sometimes
1 likeI actually recommend his stuff, but he's very much a leftist, so you may not enjoy it as much as I do, I dunno
It's funny that Dan removed ratings on a couple of his videos, considering one of them is just about editing (where he just talked trash about Suicide Squad, something everyone at the time was doing)
5 likesThe other one I can think of is admittedly really spicy, one about authorial intent and accountability in freedom of speech (which is pretty ironic)
Unlike what Emp suggests, Dan really doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be cowering from internet hate, he seems really savvy about the inner workings of the platform, and has worked on videos about much more dangerous subjects, and the ratings are still up, so that behavior seems kinda odd
Rip Dan Olson got his wish.
1 likeTbh, Reddit’s system is like a goddamn middle ground, and it’s ok I guess
Edit: it’s just the idiots on Reddit who ruin it
Bad news: Over 3 years later, and YouTube actually removed them.
1 likeWelp, they effed up again. Emplemon, you were right!
2 likesYoutube: *Changes/removes something everyone actually enjoys on youtube without telling anyone *
477 likesViewers and creators: Oh shit, here we go again
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Did you comment this to derek gerards video?
2 likesit starts with "Ah" not "Oh" just to correct you on that.
3 likesThe source of the sentence is also in the video at 8:54
Man I wish this dislike number isn't disappearing right now.
2 likesClearly YouTube had a different idea in mind
0 likesWell, the spiral continues. RIP dislikes
2 likesThis really predicted the future...
2 likes"For every massively unpopular feature that nobody likes and Youtube rolls out anyway, they all begin the same way with Youtube teasing it and treating it like a non-committal optional thing. And then it becomes default for the whole site."
165 likesOh no
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Yep...and look what happened now
6 likesWelp looks like its happened. Truly a sad day.
7 likes@chan r what did i miss oh god
4 likes@Quilly they teased it back then but they just made the announcement that they’re planning to slowly roll out hiding dislikes to anyone but the channel owner.
6 likesOh no
0 likes@chan r welp
1 like12:58 this aged well
3 likesThis has aged like holy sweet wine
1 likethey should have just had it to where you have to watch a good chunk of the video to rate it.
0 likesWhy is it that every video you seem to make is somehow relevant to the future? I mean, look at the Leafy one! You're a fucking madlad
3 likes“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new
49 likesevidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it
is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.”
― Frantz Fanon
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Very interesting quote.
1 like@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart Politics in general is full of cognitive dissonance, that's why it is important to stay in the center and not label yourself as being on one side.
5 likes@Enfield_the_Enigmatic
4 likesI know. But factually, lefties are mostly the ones that suffer from cognitive dissonance, considering that they are the one of the last sides to still use propaganda as a ressource to brainwash teenagers.
@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart Yes, the left does target younger people more, but that kinda goes with the whole liberal thing anyway. I will say though, that their marketing is often incredibly shallow. Conservatives tend to be more direct, for better or for worse.
2 likesLmao great quote but I never saw this coming from someone with a MaximilianMus avatar
1 like@Jubawub JC only speaks the truth
1 like@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart
1 like[citation needed]
This video: exists
1 likeYouTube: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"
This is it, gentlemen.
4 likesWell this definitely aged well
0 likes10/11/21 further down the downwards spiral we go
7 likesthis video is infinitely funnier now that youtube has admitted to watching it
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wait they did?
57 likesPlease provide a source for those who are curious
19 likes@Zenner Oh yeah I did see that, and they're clearly trying to downplay what they're doing and pretending like they're listening...
24 likes@Blehm _ source was posted
4 likes@mixed narwhal it's since been deleted, do you happen to still have it?
33 likeswhy do comments on this thread keep getting deleted
7 likes@alonectorch ask YouTube, oh wait a minute
31 likes@L.Perpenhente watch out, theres snipers on us
14 likesand then they proceeded to completely ignore it as of today
8 likes@BlazingRoman disappointed but not surprised
7 likes@BlazingRoman what now
2 likesCan someone post the course again? Seems relevant to today
6 likes@Riah maybe they won't delete it this time (as if)
5 likesPlease send
2 likesNice doshin propic
0 likesDoubt
0 likes@EmpLemon you were right. thoughts on your whole video prophecizing the goddamn future?
1 likethis aged very, very well
1 likethis video is ahead of its time
4 likes2 years later: Well shit...
5 likesI think Politics and ‘Any review of the Last Jedi’ both fall under politics
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Politics and Any review of the Last Jedi are different. I would say that they both fall under opinions.
8 likesDebates regarding leadership and how a location should be run and any reviews of the 2017 live action film known as star wars the last jedi, are one in the same
3 likesDrab Majesty Yeah, that’s true
0 likesPolitics vs a politically fueled movie that’s also not very good. They definitely overlap in some areas, but the Last Jedi’s shit for more reasons than just politics
4 likesNetworKrakle I like TLJ.
0 likesNetworKrakle The Last Jedi is not politics it is fact that is a abomination
2 likes@Aaron Landry what
0 likesChennzy The Last Jedi’s a shit movie that tried to hide its problems with shoehorned politics. So, reviewing it usually bleeds into the politics, but not always
1 like@Abraxas true
2 likesThe Downward Spiral has hit the Chandrasekhar limit
4 likeslikes prophets of old. it was bound to come some day
4 likesThey always start with small experiments and then they do it
1 likeYeah, you were right all along
3 likeswe should have listened, bur yet we laughed
2 likesI have come from the future to tell you that YouTube did it again.
3 likesgenius to remove dislike buttons... now i write down my hatred into the comment section more frequently
3 likesi hope someone makes a chrome addon to show dislikes
4 likesWithout dislikes, YouTube rewind 2018 wouldn't even be a meme. So yes, we need the dislike button.
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It shouldn’t have been a meme. It should’ve been a genuine celebration of YouTube.
9 likesB O N K O N T H E H E A D It’s sooo bad tho why would it be a celebration
6 likes@Curshburger because it's fucking garbage, it was crying for a celebration, but it did get a celebration alright, just not a good one 😂
6 likesthey only thought of this because of yt rewind lets be real
6 likesthey want to erase the shame of 2018
Why did anybody care about “YouTube rewind”? I’ve never even really known what it is, and I’ve been here since 2007. I guess it’s YouTube’s own year end highlight reel but who even watches it?
1 likeit's done. they did it. they pulled the trigger
3 likesLots of nonsensical instances where YouTube displays biased reluctance over an alteration due to “constrictions [their] platform contains,” as if they somehow can’t just add quality of life improvements to the features they themselves have constricted. “Dislikes harm a video’s presence on the front page due to what the algorithm prioritizes.” Ok, so you can’t alter the algorithm so that’s not the case? “Annotations are impractical for the platform as a whole, they don’t even work on mobile.” Ok, then implement them on mobile.
1 likeIt's sad to see this happen ಥ‿ಥ
0 likesfor everyone fortunate enough to read this comment on a computer:
1 likethere is an extension that allows you to see dislikes
I agreed with most of what you said besides what you said about how people "dislike" things on 4chan.
98 likesMost of the time if its something people legitimately do not like they will simply just not respond to your post or thread until it gets automatically archived. If what you said was outright bad and not even in a funny way people will just not respond to you, and the silence resulting from that is ironically more deafening and hurtful than any amount of angry (You)s coming your way.
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This x1000
7 likesThe pain of being wordlessly labeled as insignificant, not even worthy of a negative comment
10 likesRIP
THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL GROWS WITH EACH PASSING DAY
2 likes3:34 YouTube worrying about 'opposing views' getting censored 😂😂😂😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeYouTube has a strange sense of humor recommending this now
2 likesYouTube has a twisted sense of humor recommending this to me now.
2 likesHe warned us...
5 likes8:00 Well said!
2 likesI know this is crazy YouTube but please hear me out, when a bunch of people dislike the video it's almost as if...they didn't like the video.
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nah
4 likesthat's impossible
Is this how king crimson actually works?
5 likesFishSquadDelta King Crimson ability is to skip beatifuly animated scenes made by David Productions to justifyably pay the workers less.
0 likesThen they loved their rewind for sure
0 likesOh Emp, we're from the future, it's not looking bright at all
3 likesAged like milk
5 likesnow we will never see those thousands of joke dislikes on a dislike related video
0 likesI sense EmpLemon making a video about YouTube removing the dislike ratio information from the public eye
0 likesYouTube is still salty about rewind 2018.
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Wait until 2019
13 likesI read your comment in gribbles voice.
2 likesWell, you called it. Dislikes are gone and so is this video sharing platform. Goodbye, everyone.
1 like"that one seems kinda like uh, not super democratic, in my opinion"
3 likeslmfao ironic that this ended up in my reccomended
8 likesI'm just put this here...
2 likeswelcome to odysee: we have dislikes
Not even 2 full years later and YouTube's actually gonna try and remove public dislikes.
163 likesI say we all go back to Newgrounds.
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@TFrills oh
2 likes@Pocket Jake what?
0 likesNewgrounds sounds like fun but..
9 likesNostalgia is not going to save us this time.
Newgrounds servers are too small to handle a large amount users.
7 likesThis has been proven twice, first when [S] Cascade was hosted there & second when Friday Night Funkin' Week 7 became a timed exclusive there.
There isn't a massive population so moderation is less tight, if you're gonna have that many people. You're gonna need bots.
@TFrills bitchute is awful, don't bother
0 likes@Mercury It’s called a Monopoly
1 likeThey can only dislike something once. You can't do it heavily on purpose.
1 likeThey’re actually fucking doing it I can’t believe it
2 likesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
7 likesTHE SPIRAL GROWS!
17:28 this dude just tried to advocate for having an echo chamber. Thats how people get stupid, dan
2 likesWe need dislikes so that Neutral Response can remain neutral!
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As soon as dislikes are completely gone, Neutral Response will be the best example of YT's downfall
43 likes@Humberto's I disliked your comment to balance it out. Does that work?
8 likeswell, if dislikes are gone, ppl should take likes off the video, but there is a problem
4 likesas i m typing this, sice april 14th 2009, 475,261 ppl liked it, some accounts may not be active and some ppl may have forgotten this
Well this aged well...
2 likesThis hits different now...
3 likesLeaving this video a dislike and soon my opponent will be eradicated.
2 likesThis video has become more relevant than it ever has been.
0 likesAnother Emplemon prophecy comes true.
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love your peacock pfp
2 likesLol this aged like fine wine
4 likes24:22 best quote of the video
1 likeMeeting ppl with somewhat similar dislikes is always a plus. Like, If you like pizza with pineapple, I might have to pass lol or pick it off. Not everyone knows exactly what all the like or dislike. However though you find out. I know some may be biased before they try or view it from the type of attention it receives. Though if your just going to judge by where the crowd goes, that's band wagoning.ie, "everybody likes mj" , or the best sports team or hometown team. Instead of just forming the own opinion, whether the a reason or not. I mean all do have our own brain got a reason, use it sometimes. Dislikes are important just as much as likes. Some people are overtly hyper critical about everything, but they have that right too. And some are the complete opposite. Youtube didn't do right by this update, in my own opinion. If its dislikes bots or like bots they should do something to protect against it. And yes the both types of bots.
0 likesi love how relevant this video is now.......
2 likesI love dislikes! One of my most popular videos "CSGO - "Hundredth, FREE" Is The Worst Music Kit👎" has over 657 dislikes and I think it's only right that I try to keep the score up. YouTube is wishing there's this hugbox system where nobody stands in the way of them making money and taking it from viewers without the possibility of feedback or any kind of way for uploaders to improve. It's totally pathetic of them to do it. Thanks for the upload man.
0 likesyou predicted the future. i hereby declare you my prophey
2 likesyoutube's on a downward spiral again
4 likesAs soon as Youtube announced they were going to remove visible dislikes, I thought of this video, well that and the one on Neutral response.
0 likesAlso about 70%+ of youtube viewers are on mobile, and the dislike bar doesn’t appear.
418 likesCoincidence I Think N O T
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Yeah I'm on mobile and it shows a rough estimate of the likes and dislike which is stupid
21 likesI can see the dislikes but the bar doesn't exist
7 likes@كلفل Clivil I for me its more like if theres 20,000k likes and 20,999k dislikes theres no difference but if theres 2,000k likes and 2,999 dislikes it shows 2,0k and 2,9k
0 likesAnd further we go into the downward spiral...
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Downward spiral
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesMan you should redo this video since they’re hiding the dislikes. Plus the dislike ratios you showed in this are nothing compared to the White Houses YouTube page
1 likeI said this in that other video Team YouTube posted recently, but it sucks how the most likely outcome from this controversy is that we'll complain for a couple of weeks, YouTube will give a half assed reply, we'll sperg out some more and then everyone will go back to watching stuff on this site. We'll adapt to it, sure. And then YouTube will crack down on that and we'll get backed into another corner, and this will keep repeating until there's no more corners to run off to.
0 likesIt honestly sickens me how much our inertia is going to aid YouTube in continuing to treat us (the viewers and creators alike) like shit.
this video aged like fine wine
2 likesWelp, it happened
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Welp, they aint going back
1 likeThere is a lot of dislikes on this video, and I can assume they are from pro removing dislikers
0 likesSee why they are useful?
This man is a youtube prophet lol.
1 likeEmplemon is the simpsons of youtube :/
2 likesDamn, this video is has aged either beautifully or poorly.
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It aged gorgeously
0 likesThe more I watch Emplemon videos the more I lose hope in this entire plain of existence.
36 likesOh well, I guess you could say we are all on a downward spiral.
I AM LITERALLY YIIKING OUT RN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
5 likesThe spiral is downward
4 likesThis aged well
1 likeAnd now they're gone
7 likesAccording to EmpLemon's like/dislike chart his video is between the 'Disputed tier' and 'Controversial tier' which is actually quite similar to the theme of it. Nice >:]
48 likesThis is literally more apparent than ever
1 like2021: dislike ratio hidden
3 likesThis be an F in the chat moment
4 likesThis video popped into my recommendation at the most convenient time
2 likesHere to possibly mourn the dislike button. Things like "Neutral Response" will no longer be publicly balanced either :(
42 likesThis man is single handedly now The Simpson’s
0 likesI'm getting drunk from this video because it aged like wine
1 likeThis isn’t over! Use me as the dislike button!
4 likesWell, we didn’t take his warning and now,
0 likesHere we are.
Picture this: I'm a young, uninformed viewer; I click onto a video discussing a topic I'm unfamiliar with. Without the dislike button, I would have no way of knowing that what I'm being presented is flawed or inaccurate.
331 likesNow of course, ideally, everyone would apply critical thinking and do their own research, but the truth of the matter is that a lot of the younger audience, and even a good portion of the older audiences will take a video for what it is. Even if, in the end, you and up agreeing with the message anyway, it's important to understand that what you're watching is contestable.
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When I see that a video has a lot of dislikes, I just start to think critically more.
27 likes@Nilstrieb same but I kick myself for it. I have ended up thinking some pretty dumb things simply because I was presented with an agreeable video with a lot of likes so I didn't think too critically about it to later have it bite me. I'd call it a bad habit and you should always be on your guard... And what machine of a person will do that? Not me I'm lazy but at least I go with the presumption even things I think absolute truths could be horribly wrong. Sooo... Moral of the story, always be open minded. But hey what do I know?
13 likes@Psi Pi I am so confused by the dual points, what is your main point? (actually asking not trying to be mean)
1 likePicture this: I'm a young, uninformed viewer; I click on a video discussing a topic I'm unfamiliar with. The video is well researched and academically sound but the majority of past viewers disliked it anyway because it conflicts with their conservative views. That might make me not watch the video at all.
1 likeIf people only look at things the majority already agrees with, how are we supposed to keep progressing?
@u9000 Nine Sorry for a very late reply but anyway. To clarify what I meant. I'm a lazy bastard so I have a bad habit of taking info at face value. On occasion I remind myself how flawed of a view that is and that I could very well be wrong about anything and/or everything I know. So I know nothing and my bad habit is I pretend I do know something. What I should do is check sources and think critically. But I'm a lazy bastard who don't do what I should.
1 likeOccasionally this comes back to bite me and I end up looking like a fool in a conversation. I proceed to metaphorically kick myself and remind myself I'm lazy and somewhat dumb and to try in the future to proceed with more caution with subjects I think I know but need to remind myself I might not know. My info is surface info that hasn't been checked a lot of the time and I should stick to speaking about topics I've actually checked the sources for or simply admit I'm out of my depth.
It isn't a dual message. (at least I don't think so) probably just confusing? English is my second language so I wouldn't be surprised if my wording is garbage. Sorry for that. the TL:DR of my two point's I was making is below.
-you should always be critical that's the ideal.
-I'm lazy and human. So I'm bad at always being critical and I don't like myself for that.
@Amones-Ray I agree with you 100%, I think it's important to keep a critical mind, for both sides. Speaking from personal experience, I've fallen on both sides of the situation. I've seen videos where I had no idea something was off until I saw the dislikes, and I've seen videos where I saw the dislikes but watched anyway, and still agreed with what I've heard. My point was in no way insinuating that a person should use that a determining factor every single time, but more so that it's a very important tool to assist in critical thinking and understanding that should not be taken away. I also was referring more to the kinds of videos where a person is telling a 'story,' making an accusation, or an apology. In these situations the dislike ratio would usually imply that there's something you're missing in the details, they're being deceptive, or other such things. Now of course, you should still always consider that the people disliking the video could be the ones misinformed or in the wrong, but that doesn't make their opinion any less valuable to a critical mind.
6 likesIt seems though, that you were thinking in terms of me political content, in which case I believe that there will always be a very high ratio of dislikes, as is always the case with controversial or button issues. However, although it really shouldn't be given as much thought in a political setting, it still does hold value.
Anyway, I realise this was a bit long, but I do hope you see where I'm coming from.
Aside from me using dislikes rationally, I also need it when someone posts like, a fake news story with click bait. Like, I can't find info on this but the title says it's true, what do the comments say? Oh they're generally positive? I'm sure the creator isn't deleting comments or anything.
1 likeBut the like/dislike system has a tendency to be abused by people who want to crush dissenting voices. So-called "dislike mob."
1 like@𝖁𝖎𝖓𝖈𝖊𝖓𝖙 𝕴𝖗𝖐𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖆 🐲 𒀭𒌉𒍑 𒄫 𒅇𒋗𒃲 That is true, but I'll relate it to this; if one riot breaks out, does that mean that the right to protest should be taken away? While there will always be the occasional riots throughout history, they shouldn't overshadow the many, many more peaceful protests that go on all the time.
3 likesThat may have been a tad dramatic, but I believe it does well to illustrate my point.
Additionally, I'd say that calling it a "dislike mob" immediately acts to take away any reason or understanding from the occurrence. It's important to understand that 'dislike mobs' don't happen out of nothing, there is a reason why they occur, illogical or otherwise. While there are occasions where the 'dislike mob' is driven by things such as; a person sending people to try and silence someone, a reaction to someone sharing an unpopular opinion, or cancel culture, it is just as likely, if not more so, that the so-called "dislike mob" is acting in reaction to something that warrants such a reaction.
And when I say "warrants such a reaction," I don't necessarily mean that it's something that is completely objective. I'm referring to anything that's considered 'controversial.' Even if I don't agree with something, it's important for it to be represented as something that causes a divide in opinion. Silencing disappearances and hate doesn't make them disappear, nor does it benefit the uninformed. If were silence dialogue and opinions, then we silence our ability to grow our own opinions, and understand the opinions of others; even if we don't agree.
Just because something is negative, doesn't mean it's bad. We can't grow if we don't accept that and face reality, even if it is unpleasant.
@Amones-Ray "conservative views" Why was that clearly political jab necessary in your hypothetical?
2 likes@UB My point was that like bars can allow videos to tank despite all the people who disliked it not being able to argue against it. This is most likely if the video conflicts with beliefs that a large portion of the population acquired at a very young age from members of the preceding generation. In other words, it's most likely that the video conflicts with views that were and possibly still are mainstream: i.e. conservative views.
0 likes@Amones-Ray "videos to tank" Do you mean the reputation of the videos or the actual performance? Because yeah, there's basically no proof that dislikes hurt a video's performance (unless I guess a YouTube employee dislikes it, but it wouldn't be the dislike itself that would affect it)
1 like@UB Yeah, you're right, "tank" was definitely exaggerated. But on the other hand I find it hard to imagine that no one ever decides to stop a video early on because of dislikes.
0 likesIt’s kind of like a product with reviews. If I see a product with a bad rating I’m going to look at the reviews to see why. If I see a video with a lot of dislikes I’m going to look at the comment to see why
4 likes@Seamus Connolly well put
1 likeWe were warned, but we didn't do anything.
2 likesNovember 30 2021
6 likesThe dislike are officially gone.
Lmao, EmpLemons editor must fucking hate him with the edit around 14:42 😂
0 likesthat was a weirdly aggressive detour about Dan.
1 likeYT finally took away measuring Dislikes after this video, next is taking Dislikes away altogether.
0 likespeople who disagree with this video and press dislike are kinda sus
4 likesLadies and gentlemen , they did it . Youtube died in 2017 , all because of Vox defemating youtube and pewdiepie .
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No
0 likes@belk Tf do you mean? Vox and Wsj lied about youtube and caused the adpocalypse. (Which was when youtube went down hill for me )
1 like@klif47 YouTube died around 2006
0 likesit is a sad day indeed. they are gone. the neutrality has been lost.
2 likes9:24
1 likeYouTube claims they watched this video then totally dodged this point lol. What is this company
This aged well
0 likesJust watched this for the first time about 2 weeks ago. Back to help get it in the algorithm.
1 likeYoutube: I think... we should read the comments
142 likesAlso Youtube: Comments have been disabled for this video
well, this aged well
0 likesHow about rather giving the direct option to comment after a dislike where you can state why you disliked and do it like constructive criticism could be ? I mean I can see people misusing that feature but hey when did stuff on youtube go smooth for once ..
0 likesMore people need to see this
0 likes8:45 Cherrypicking I see, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples aside from Dan Olson, but no you picked him so you can make him a soyjack.
1 likeYOU FORGOT SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMENT POINT
1490 likesYOUTUBERS CAN DELETE THEM
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>inb4 EmpLemon deletes your comment for the luls
126 likesYeah, but huge corporations can delete even dislikes.
99 likesPeople can Keep making channel and spam 'dislike'
10 likes@FlexViper That is an annoying and time-consuming process. You'd have to spend all day making accounts, and you'd barely accomplish anything. 30 accounts equal 30 dislikes, which is nothing.
24 likesWell, large enough accounts can apparently also delete dislikes. Not that I'm trying to invalidate your point. I'm just saying the system is fucked.
21 likes@DasBubba
8 likesYou can mass create bots with certain programs, you need experience though and you can't make it alone.
@MediaMunkee
12 likesYeah, large accounts. Reminded me of a brainwashed feminist who came to my school one day and started spitting unofficial facts and silencing anyone who disagreed, because adult>kid so popularchannel>anyone
@ZackWeaw InZeWalmart Point is, Russian bots alone aren't the ones hating on the Youtube Rewind.
5 likesHe said that. That was his criticism on that argument
2 likesMrComit yeah? Remind me again who was allowed to edit video without reuploading it when it was officially impossible to do?
1 likeTheSheeper087 I’m your 1k like Xd
0 likesNot if you spam it
0 likesHasn't that only ever happened on the diablo immortal trailer?
1 likeAND TURN THEM OFF ENTIRELY
0 likesLIKES AND SUBCOUNTS CAN ALSO BE HIDDEN
Or turn them off
0 likesAnd now we need to rely on add-ons and extensions to show dislikes again. Bravo Youtube, you have made Rick Perry's dream Youtube a reality.
1 likeahead of your time, emp
2 likesIt's funny because I did this exercise of Dislike separation and 10% basically statistical standard. Also I do have a criticism on this video goes on for 5-7 minutes too long.
0 likesThe whole spiel explaining how dislikes are good for self improvement, unnecessary.
This video aged like fine wine
1 likeIf I come across a video that has ratings disabled, there's a 90% chance I'm just ditching it unless it's something I particularly wanted to see. I'll usually just assume the video would have 50% dislikes if it were showing them, and it's not worth my time.
16 likesThis video aged well.
0 likesA good example of the meaning of dislikes are recent Call of Duty trailers
1 likeand this is why emplemon is king
1 likeI bet that by 2023 they will deactivate comments to protect "people who need it" ie, people that did bad things and don't want to hear criticism or hate.
1 likewe’ll just get loads of “use me as a dislike button”
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They'll just delete the comments
19 likesXryeau _ They'll make a video titled "like this video for the dislikes"
35 likes@Just Vibin
5 likesTakedown notice.
@Just Vibin They have a longer road to travel before they just take videos down that they don't like for no reason so yeah, I could see that.
2 likesI wonder about the dislike button on comments.
4 likesIt's just amazing all that they try to force upon us, but then we always find some way around their shit and make them look like fools.
0 likes@Muffin Man They didn't exactly hide dislikes. It's just a 'total score' based on likes minus dislikes, except it doesn't let it show negative numbers for whatever reason. But at least we still have that, rather than a complete removal of dislikes.
2 likesI'll be commenting 👎
0 likesa lot fucking more
Great idea!
0 likesWho was the 470th like?
0 likesYoutube seemed to have proved Emplemon right once again.
2 likesDamn. This hits different now don't it?
1 likethis video aged like a fine wine
0 likesI was like, o check how many people disagree with this video. oh wait, youtube removed the dislike button
1 likeIf dislikes are gone, this site would turn into Instagram.
36 likesJust this false positivity that we know doesn't exist.
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If that happened then we will riot
5 likesTheMikirog it would be Netflix all over again
1 likeI think its a blunt idea from youtube, but I don't like emp's reception to it.
0 likesThis video aged like fine wine
1 likeAged like fine wine! Then YouTube broke the bottle.... lol
1 likeI enjoy this popping up in our current system
0 likesWill this hit a mill by tomorrow? 😶
5 likesTheoretically this video should have zero dislikes. Because the people who disagree and think dislikes shouldn't exist obviously wouldn't use the feature they despise so much, right?
303 likesBut yeah, great video! Unsubbed
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I disliked because I agree with emp
57 likeswhyd u unsub
2 likesIt’s kind of like not everyone who watches a video has to agree with it you soggy waffle.
4 likesYou can agree with his point but still dislike the video for rhetoric and presentation reasons
6 likesIs this the borg or what?
0 likesguys he might be joking, idk tho
0 likesI’m a guess it’s a joke/sarcasm/satire. What’s the difference between sarcasm and satire?
1 like@Danielle Wilson satire is used in comedic fashion while sarcasm gives a negative notation.
5 likes@Phyo Kyaw Khaing thank you. It appearsI've been using the terms interchangablu
0 likesNow YouTube is actually disabling dislikes
0 likesThis video was ahead of its time
1 likeOh i cannot WAIT for the next Emplemon video
1 likeThis aged like a fine wine.
0 likesWe lost. Time to switch to another site.
5 likeswithout dislikes the youtube rewind would only have 200 likes
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Yup wouldn’t matter too much anyway there
0 likesIt has currently 2.5 million likes though
0 likesBut the dislikes out numbers it almost entirely
0 likes@Pigmasks sorta True
0 likesThe Youtube algorithm is a sick bastard.
2 likesthis site ages like milk
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And it seems that it never ages well at all no matter what...
1 likethis video has definitely aged
1 likeGuess now we can use the like to view count ratio.
1 like23:57 They did not, in fact, listen
2 likesI love the "Ys" music back drop. That's a good series
0 likesi congratulate you, i don't know how you managed to predict this but congrats
0 likesWow this video aged great
2 likesi could have lived without seeing that 4chan post
2 likesTHERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION THE SPIRAL GOES, AND ITS DOWN
2 likesOh boi, I clicked the dislike just to see if it was really gone and all I got was a popup that said, "The creator has been informed"
1 likethis man predicted the future of the future predicted
0 likesWhen i heard the news of youtube "testing" to remove the dislike button, this video immediately came to my mind. You were right EmpLemon, you were right.
15 likesDislike 2:electric Boogaloo when?
4 likesWhy do we use youtube if its just gonna become shittier overtime.
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Because we as collective consumers are unwilling to move to another platform. As Emp himself has said, sadly with most changes people will hemm and haw for a while and still use Youtube despite how fucked the situation is.
1 likePeople are zombies for it..
0 likesHe tried to warn us...
3 likesScince youtube has officially removed dislikes, this shit aged like a fine wine
1 like"Since I can't see anyone who disagrees with me, that must mean everyone agrees with me!"
21 likesA brilliant delivery of a sad truth.
THE MAD MAN WAS RIGHT, GOD DAMMIT WHY DIDNT WE LISTEN!
1 likeHoly shit he predicted it
1 likeGood ol chrome extensions save the day
2 likesEmplemon got it right here
1 likeDOWNWARD SPIRAL.
6 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL.
DOOOOOOWARD SPIIIIIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL-
we all know some big company payed youtube to remove dislikes
1 likeWell boys it happened the end times are near
4 likesI mean it was inevitable, but here we are today 🙄
3 likesIt's crazy that this is being recommended again. I wonder why...
2 likes1000IQ move, Bring back the star rating!
0 likesIT HAPPENED GODDAMNIT HE PREDICTED THIS
1 likeIt's over. They've actually removed it. No longer states how many people disliked, it just shows the word 'dislike'. RIP.
1 likeClearly, YouTube hasn’t watched EmperorLemon. Also Rest In Peace leetag’s Neutral Response video and the Byleth direct
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Losing dislikes on neutral response is a loss to internet history, but the outrage to the byleth direct was frankly stupid and unearned.
7 likesWe are now one step closer to YouTube becoming TikTok.
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too late, with all of the weird gacha girls in comment sections, i'd say that we're pretty much american tik tok.
0 likesRiP
0 likesBut you can get dislikes with the suspicious «Youtube Dislike Button» extension.
This is even more relevant now
1 likeThey called him a madman
1 likeThey're just still salty about YouTube Rewind lmao
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You deserve a pinned comment and a plethora of dislikes...
7 likesIf they remove the like button you can't compare the amount of likes to the amount of comments to see whether it's good or not. Edit: Or, better yet, compare likes to views.
0 likesxD
0 likesHere it's time for twitter to add a dislike button but youtube is the one removing it. We're doomed.
0 likesThis is just the start of the downfall of youtube
0 likes2 years and still no dislikes and 87k like. Just proves how well this age
0 likes17:30 Olson literally advising people to stay & create echo chambers :D
0 likesCool
I have a lot of difficulty writing comments that I feel comfortable posting. I can just get a bit obsessive with my wording or worry that I'm not communicating my intent clearly or just feel uncomfortable leaving my opinion out for everyone to see. For me, ratings are a must.
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Yo, me too. Honestly, I could spend up to half an hour writing a comment, mainly because I feel the wording could always be better and more fluid, and that I had much more to say but didn't want it to turn into tl;dr. Right now I feel I have a better grasp of it but yeah, I still hesitate posting anything most of the time :P
1 like7:20 is that the BTD soundtrack?
2 likesits ironic watching this now. He predicted it.
1 likei use this thing called return youtube dislike, its pretty good on browsers
0 likesThey actually did it
2 likesEmpLemon, the YTP who also does commentary.
16 likesA golden channel with wonderful content for people who seeks the second opinion.
Legit makes me wonder if there were any videos out there that had no likes but over 100,000 dislikes. What about THOSE!?
0 likesThat’s crazy. I just watched this video again the other day and now it’s happening
0 likes19:29 thank you, now I need a lobotomy to forget that
0 likesDisliked this video while I still can
0 likesRIP Youtube Dislikes 2010-2021
When you mentioned the removal of the dislike button, my mind instantly went to what'll happen to the "Neutral Response" video.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who's worried about Neutral Response.
30 likes4 people
1 likeYou have stirred people's hearts. Including mine. Well said <3
0 likesFucking hell, they're going to ruin a classic
5 likes7 people.
0 likesAND MY AXE.. Yes, neutral response, the only thing more neutral than sweden.
1 likeI’m worried too :(
0 likesMaybe we can balance the likes and comments saying "Dislike"
1 likeOh no...
0 likesWhat a time for this to show up in my recommended. :')
0 likesRIP Dislike Button
3 likes2007 - 2021
Kenosha Kid did nothing wrong
I am willing to bet if you were to show YouTube this video, they won't even listen.
0 likesThey just fucking removed dislikes
5 likesThanks EmpLemon for continuing to keep Stefan alive 9:45
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The Lamer Gamer I have forgotten and I am extremely ashamed of myself,I think stef deserves another short moment of silence
21 likesF
@Sfs Aviation F
3 likesLest we forget.
3 likesF
2 likesF
2 likesF
2 likesF
2 likesF
2 likesis he ded?
0 likesStefan will never be forgotten, he'll live on in our hearts, such a great meme...
1 likeF
2 likesNew age, who dis?
2 likesF
2 likesexcept Stefan wanted to be forgotten
0 likes@Jeremiah Caulfield Too bad.
2 likesF
0 likesWe must do it ourselves now. Use the comment function as a tool for feedback
0 likes"let's hope they listen"
0 likeslol
Ive made a habit of posting the following comment on relevant videos:
2 likes"This is a friendly reminder that the reason Youtube eliminated the dislike button is to limit your ability to readily tell if other people also think something is a bad idea."
Feel free to join me.
How are comments harder to spam? I see so many relentless spam/harassment style comments, and reporting it does nothing. The only way to get rid of someone spamming the comments, is to notify the creator, which isn’t always easy to do, plus the creator has to care enough to do something about it.
1 like“if the video has less than 50% likes there is probably something wrong with you“
351 likes>insert youtube rewind here
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Tana Mongeau’s videos
0 likesi appreciate your usage of the btd soundtrack
0 likesNow youtube are taking out the dislikes. This video predicted this so well. Although we all should have seen this coming. I care about youtube because I see a ton of videos here; between 10 and 20 per day. I AM GOING TO PROTEST. For two weeks starting tomorrow, I will not see any videos from youtube. This is my last hope and effort. Youtube will not see my ad money here.
0 likesI have comment this to many videos and to many youtubers I see. But if the case is that youtube doesn´t retract. I have said goodbye to each youtuber I see. I thank them for the awesome work they do. It is hard for me to think I will not see them again; if I must go, I will go. Hopefully, youtube changes just this thing... I really hope so.
Sad to see how this went
0 likesThis aged well unfortunately.
9 likesThanks a lot CensorTube.
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Forced positivity time.
1 likeDislike if this video aged well.
6 likesI don’t like it when this happens
0 likesThis video shouldn’t have gotten more relevant
2 likeslets goo high boii we maid it to 1 mil
4 likesWe called him a madman…
5 likesRIP Dislikes
6 likesAnyone else sharing the hell out of this now?
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Meeeeeeee
1 likeWell it finally fucking happen. I hate this shit site.
5 likesThis suddenly became relevant.
1 likeLike fucking clockwork
6 likesCame back because of
0 likesRecent times....
And realized emplemon put an oprah ytp clip in this. God i feel old
Wow youtube recommended me this just when they remove the dislike button
1 likewhat kind of sick kick you getting out of this SUSAN
The "dislikes are binary" complaint... Ah, maybe we could have a 1-5 star rating system?
20 likesOh wait, they did that for years and everyone only hit "1" or "5" anyway.
Binary is what we go to when given the choice.
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What if they gave a percentage of likes?
1 like@Galfin SP then you could extrapolate the dislikes, then what would the point be
0 likes15:38 got me good
1 like11K people seem to agree with you a lot!
0 likeswhat if we start disliking every video we watch
1 likeWow killer Keemstar predicted the removal of dislikes!
2 likesDislikes allow the audience to orient themselves to reality.
1 likeDid youtube listen? No. Will youtube ever listen? Also no.
3 likesThis video needs an update.
1 likeEmplemon can predict anything Youtube related, change my Mind.
7 likesHe was right all along
0 likesNow that Youtube has removed dislikes I think It would be a good idea to post a comment that says like this comment if you dislike the video then pin it
1 likenow we have to do something about it
0 likesTo anybody who is just as slow as me, there's an extension to fix current stupid youtube change.
1 likePlease share this info where you find it to be nessesary.
I guarantee some of those 10,000 dislikes were people who actually liked the video
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I mean, any video talking about dislikes will probably have more dislikes anyway
0 likesThis video was ahead of its time
0 likesRemoving dislikes was done expressway for big companies and shit like that. Things like GTA V revealed on next gen consoles, that get massive amounts of views but NOBODY likes the fact that it’s a thing. How do they trick the average viewer into thinking the perception of a video with 50K likes and a million dislikes is actually liked by the people? Hide the dislikes. Let them just see how many people liked it, and the view count. It’s completely disgusting
4 likesHow about a pinned comment by the creator, periodically updated to reveal the dislike count
2 likesWell, Emp. Guess what is happening now?
1 likeThis video genuinely feels like it advocates for freedom. I'd hate the idea of the dislike button being removed.
7 likesI wonder if all the dislikes are from the people that agree or don't agree?
1 likeWhat a time to get recommended this-
1 likeHey but now we can "bully" behind the meme
0 likesand now they removed them
4 likesEmplemon's editing style is a national treasure.
19 likesthey actually did it
1 like>if only you knew how bad things really are
1 likeGod fucking damn it man
4 likesCame back to rewatch this gem now that dislikes are dead
34 likesThe prophecies are true. YouTube, spirals further down.
1 likeThe day of reckoning has come
3 likesOh boy I wonder why this is the first thing that shows up for emplemon in the search bar
0 likesThis video was ahead of time.
1 likeLet's get this on trending.
14 likesIt's been done and now im sad
3 likesWho'da thunk? They finally did it..
1 likeWell, here's a free comment and hidden dislike to pump up the algorithm! 😂
This cant be more relevant rn
2 likesWe lost…
13 likesAh foreshadowing in its finest
0 likesthey actually fucking did it
1 likeyoutube removes dislikes
0 likeseveryone disliked that.
This video predicted the future.
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It really didn't; given the fact that this video was made when they were thinking about doing it.
4 likesIt was also bound to happen at some point as YouTube must protect muh brands and muh political figures. This feature is just the worst. I wish that some other platform can overtake YouTube in popularity.
Aged like the finest milk in summer
2 likesThe Nostradamus of YouTube
1 likeBrowser addon "Return youtube dislikes", shows you dislikes but they only update every few days.
1 likeI think we need a sideways thumb, for the mediocre videos
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Yeah, too many videos I've watched I don't like or dislike. They're just kinda... Existing?
79 likes@Omaha Bibble Maddox We used to have stars isnt 3 stars basically a medicore rating?
50 likesDon't forget to add a thumb pointing 45 degrees upward and and a thumb pointing 45 degrees downwards for a complete five-point rating system.
55 likesjust dont like or dislike it lol
6 likes@Omaha Bibble Maddox hahHhahahah you're God damn right
0 likesIf you don't have a strong opinion, then you don't need to add a rating!
4 likesOr the star system. Remember that? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
6 likes@lakamokolaka yeah and nobody used the 3 star rating they mainly only used the 5 and 1 star ratings
0 likes@Windmill Hills then dont like or dislike
1 like@cheeto gey
0 likes@lakamokolaka the key word is used
0 likesTaking from the video we've all just watched you could also rate according to the like to dislike ratio.
0 likesor just not vote
0 likesThere's a reason we don't have the star system anymore
0 likesMeh. Just don't like or dislike a video. Giving people too many options makes them do nothing anyway, and people love to fence sit. Make a decision.
0 likes@Unknown Yah used because stars are gone due to google wanting to be more like facebook back then
1 like@lakamokolaka yeah but i think the star system is just not really good in the modern internet i mean look at the google play reviews most of them is 5 stars or 1 star so its basically the same system
1 like@Unknown No not really they got rid of it due to advertizers got pushed down due to they always got 1 to 2 stars for thier ad videos
0 likes@lakamokolaka source?
0 likes5 star coming back baby
0 likesdislike, make a new account and like
0 likesThis is only a workaround.
1 like"Return Youtube Dislike" lets you see the dislike counter again.
Apparently this add-on won't work in future.
Let's hope guys
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is there an extension to stop youtube shadowbanning your comments
0 likes3:53 ah yes , the comment section , so that when we comment , we can open ourselves to reports and get our whole account suspended (which is essentially a lifetime ban , dont know why they call it suspension) for a few comments and not be able to appeal.
0 likesNever more relevant emp
1 likehow does this video only have 2 dislikes
0 likesI’ve been waiting for this to get reccomended
1 likewell THIS aged
3 likesI appreciate the Bloons TD music, I've been playing a lot of it
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When was it used?
1 like@Mandel Around the middle, you should watch the video in its entirety though, to find it.
1 like@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? It was earlier on, and it was specifically from the 5th game
4 likesI remember going up to my grand parents house during the summer when both my parents were working and playing ballons td 5 on miniclip. I love that game
4 likesFrom the main menu.
1 like@Mandel 5:00
0 likesMy brain instantly flicked on when I heard it, nostalgia hit me like a boulder 😵
1 likeYeah. He trully captures the music state
0 likesBTD5 is the best Tower Defense game ever.
1 likeNow this is MY kind of music
1 likeRemoves comments
0 likesBTD has monkeys in it.
0 likesOH MY GOD HE REMEMBERED MUMKEY JONES!
Thanks I was wondering why it sounded familiar.
0 likesPosting comment to boost this video as they have done it
4 likesPOV : you are from High Boi's video
3 likesGoogle / YouTube disliked that
2 likesMan, thought I was going crazy. Playing BTD in the background with the sound off.
0 likesThis reminds me of the "remove random crits" debate, but flipped around
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How so?
0 likesCharlie K removing likes
1 likeI really hate random crits I always die to a kroocket when I'm on a high killstreak
2 likesAnd emplemon is uncle dane.
5 likesRandom Crits add to TF2's wackiness. It also helps get rid of that Pyro/Soldier/Demo that camps your spawn and gives a bit more reason to use your melee.
5 likesbreaking news: they are not the only ones with access to random crits
3 likesWhy are Pro Crits believers only "vaild" reason to keep it is because it's "fun".
3 likesWhy do Anti Crits arguments boil down to having a killstreak or pubstomp ruined?
0 likes@Pokémaniac Guquiz We have a whole video dedicated to why Crits are bad with actual solid points and you probably chose to ignore it in favor "because its fun".
3 likes@George Liquor here is also a whole video dedicated to defending it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pij5aoehWUw
1 like@Pokémaniac Guquiz That demo/soldier/pyro camping your spawn is more likely to get crits regardless, since they arent stuck in spawn, but i do get your point. It helps sometimes.
3 likesAlso, for anyone confused on how this is the same but the opposite, in the crit debate, people want to remove a mechanic because the dev wont on their own, and in this argument, people want a mechanic to stay, because the devs are showing interest in removing said mechanic. That is all.
3 likes@Pokémaniac Guquiz heard of the negativity bias?
0 likeshow about just not play tf2 and avoid the argument completely
0 likesLmao you guys use random crits? Bruh I just have 5 pocket kritz medics
1 like@Pokémaniac Guquiz Random crits are a detriment to TF2's competitive enviroment. Besides, it's always frustrating to get killed by someone you know didn't deserve it. It has gotten to the point where I get frustrated with the game when I crocket someone.
1 like@Enfield_the_Enigmatic They are disabled in Competitive mode, so...
0 likes@Pokémaniac Guquiz Competitive mode sucks and you know that. I'm tired of this arguement being brought up, it's stupid. I want to be able to enjoy this game as it was meant to be played instead of playing a cobbled together cs:go comp wannabe.
1 likeUm, yah, about that like button. Wouldn't it be great if many people decided just not to use it anymore, right?
0 likesThanks, that would be great.
Welp now they're doing it. :(
1 likeI can no longer see dislikes.
3 likesThe only channel this'll improve is How to Basic
1 likeThanks for your insight
0 likesIt finally happened, that wonderful dislike button is gone.
0 likesIt would be cool if you made an update video about this topic
0 likesWell this is depressing.
1 likeToday is the day YouTube died. RIP dislikes.
29 likesDamn I thought this was a new video for a minute
1 likeThey did it....
0 likesThey can't keep getting away with this......THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
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they will.
0 likesbecause people are still using the site.
26:10 just gotta correct you on since Norway, while not in the EU is in the EEA
0 likeswhell this aged whell
2 likesWell, this video is.. yeah..
4 likesWow everyone seems to agree, after all, there are no dislikes.
0 likesSo where do we go from here
7 likesHow does this have over 11k dislikes?
2 likesWell…we tried.
1 likeDisliked. Not because I think this video is crap. In fact I like it. And I like dislikes too. Shall we make this into a neutral response meme?
2 likesBut to hell with YouTube!
They straight up announced the concept of removal of dislike button on my 14th birthday.... Wow just wow.
0 likesSpam Ratio on every shit video and content creator on the site until we get it back. Ratio mobs GO!
1 likeIt's also possible to get a major amount of dislikes when going against a medium with a manipulated fanbase. It's not always the creators fault.
7 likesGreat video never-the-less!
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Yeah, But most of the time. It's there for a good reason
0 likesDear god, they didn't listen to emp
1 likeEmp called it
4 likes[DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL]
5 likesMy mans predicted the future
0 likesThe people that hate dislikes will dislike this video. The irony
29 likeswelp now I can't see the dislike count on this video
0 likesExtremely relevant today
4 likesWe should just go and dislike bomb all of YouTube's videos now
1 likeHe called it
5 likesThis aged like a fine wine.
27 likesMake them regret it
0 likesTHEY ARE REMOVING DISLIKES
3 likesYoutube: "How bout i do, anyway."
0 likesImagine watching this on November 2021
2 likesI swear, EmpLemon is criminally under rated
7 likesI never actually thought this would happen
1 likeFuck
This went well...
0 likesso much for dystopian
2 likesOh YouTube. Where did you go wrong
2 likesCommenting to get this back going
2 likesrating tier list checks out with this video
0 likesWelp, they just announced that they're going to hide dislike counts for all videos later today. Rip
49 likesI swear algorithm is actually programmed to show stuff at a specific time because when Prince Philip died 30% of recommended was Prince Philip memes
0 likesHe was right.
1 likeRealizes you can’t really see the dislikes anymore:
1 likeWow who knew this would be bigger in 2021.
1 likeI'm glad I found your channel. I've been binging it the last few days, and from what I've seen you not only can compose a great documentary, but you also seem to be able to form your own rational opinions rather than be strongly influenced by people ("seem", of course, since I don't actually know you personally). I watched Quinton Reviews briefly for awhile there, but after seeing how racist he was I had to unsubscribe and stop watching, and seeing you disappointed in him too in this video brought some solace to my heart. Keep up the good work.
5 likesAGED LIKE FINE ASS WINE
3 likesaged like fine wine
1 likeI almost want to dislike your vid for the meme but it won’t do anything. You can’t even see it anymore
1 likeof course it comes into my recommend today
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I hate the pill
0 likesOnce dislikes go, "use me as a dislike" comments will spread everywhere.
63 likesAnd everyone knows the only way to deal with that is to remove likes. After that, we become 4chan.
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i love you
3 likesLast thing google wants is their streaming platform becoming a right wing hangout ground.
4 likes@The Spanish Inquisition I know but youtube and 4chan should never be compared
0 likes@quantum. both are toxic, that's more similarity than there should be
3 likes@Sillimant but 4chan has a high concentration of right wing users while on youtube it could be argued that this is the most politically diverse social platfrom on the internet due to how vast youtube is.
0 likes@quantum. I never said or even mentioned politics. I was only Talkin about the toxicity which both sites are already known for. If YouTube becomes the same format as 4chan, YouTube will become so much worse than 4chan ever could be
4 likes@Sillimant ok, lets just end the argument here.
0 likes@quantum. I've been on the site and honestly it just depends on where you look. Funny enough, there's way more porn and weebs than there are right wingers.
1 like@Zac sesz I've looked at Pol, b and d. I can see how different they are. I don't use the site much, but I'm more than aware how different they are
0 likes@Zac sesz I'm a degenerate, what do honestly expect?
0 likesSoon... the internet will own YouTube again.
0 likesand further down we go
3 likesThis got recommended to me for some reason. Its like Youtube itself crying for help from evil overlord susan
0 likesAged like fine wine
2 likesAccording to your Chart, right now your Video is considered as Controversial Tier as I am typing this.
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I noticed that as well, though in his defence, it appears a lot of people disliked the video to express that they approve of his message.
336 likesThat's partly because Presidential faces appeared on the video at all, around any context, over any duration.
80 likes(There was also an ear-rape in there.)
@RdTrler
33 likesThere wasn't anything wrong tho.
I just disliked it because I agree
88 likes@MrGermandeutsch
13 likesTotally agree with you. 100%
I think a lot of people are just disliking it for the meme.
37 likesoh, no, I disliked this video because it was great! we all need the dislike button to be able to express ourselves, so lets give it some space here (maybe make it neutral)
15 likes@Z0mbie ah, the Hbox Jigglypuff. Is that from the "Don't taunt Hungrybox" video?
1 likeIt seems to be in the "Disputed Tier" as of now.
3 likeskids just salty
0 likesyep. 87.3(R)%
0 likes"right now" "as I'm typing this"
0 likes@Charlie Scales
1 likeNow, since you did that, I'm purposefully not going to change it right now, as of right now, right about now, right now, about now, in this very moment, at this very precise point in time, as in, like, now. Totally.
:^)
I wonder i recommending this now is some sort of sick joke from YouTube…
1 likeThis isn't a downward spiral its a fucking straight drop
2 likesAnd in the last week, guess what happened...can you see it people? THIS IS YOUTUBE WORLD WAR 1 DAMN IT!!!
1 likeAging like a fine wine
1 likeI remember when I was living in this house and had my photography all up on the walls. Some guy (roommate's friend I think) was over and walked around and basically tore apart every photo I had up.(I was a pretty new photographer and yes they sucked, no one had the balls to tell me though).
8 likesLooking back 10 years later he was absolutely right, and it was the most valuable feedback I've ever received. The truth hurts but EmpLemon is right, it's honest, unfiltered, and in the end sets you up to grow as a person/creator.
15:30 I'm super annoyed you can't even fucking tell us who this Brazilian celebrity is.
0 likesDisliked.
(Seriously, I'm annoyed as fucking Hell that you flaked out on #1.)
Edit: Daniela Mercury, who spoke out against Brazilian President Bolsonaro, who is in fact a shitty person, is worth mentioning.
They did it!
0 likesThe dislikes are such a nice feature, it would be a shame if YouTube removed it
0 likes0:34 so that’s where the idea came from
0 likesI totally agree. The only time I really understand creators turning off their likes is when they have an unstable mental well-being. I watch mostly art channels, so when they animate a vent and a bunch of people comment that they “need to go die” then I totally understand. For some things, like animation, usually comments are the best place to criticize because it isn’t an opinion, really, it’s how you do a skill.
56 likesIt’s also annoying how there are dislikes as soon as a video is posted, so it’s hard not to believe people subscribe just to hate, which can be extremely annoying when they couldn’t have even watched the first few seconds, but it’s never over a hundred.
Great vid, it really helped me understand both arguments and your opinion
Thanks dude
god this is too relevant
0 likesWell... shit. These möfös are actually removing dislikes.
3 likesEmpLemon prewatched 2021
1 likefor all that are upset about the removal of dislikes, you can get a browser extension that reveals the dislikes.
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Temporarily at least, apparently Google will be updating their API so that browser extensions won't be able to view dislikes shortly after the new year. Shit sucks.
1 likealso, the addon isnt accurate (ie 1k instead of 1006)
0 likesis there an extension to stop youtube shadowbanning your comments
0 likesREMINDER: Dan Olson made a CP board on 8chan in order to frame the website and get the FBI to shut it down.
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O
4 likesThat's some edgy shit
52 likesVibri Evidence? Maybe a KiwiFarms or what?
34 likesWell in that case Dan has searched CP sooooo…
49 likes((dan olson))
23 likes@H.G. Commons I'm suprised EmpLemon has never talked about kiwifarms, probably because the only people who tend to are the people who have been doxed by them or are salty about their existence (and I suspect emp doesn't want to piss them off either). But I think it would make an interesting video because they are a quite unique entity within internet culture which actually seems to be gaining massive influence as of late.
35 likes@Bryan Smith Went to KF for the Warframe BS and the KickVic stuff. There's def a lot of autism, but it's generally vaguely pointed in the right direction, and there's strict site/cultural rules against actually bullying the lolcows, which is weird, but actually quite nice in various meanings of the word.
13 likeso
0 likes@Gay Champagne Socialist Yeah, they could certainly do a lot worse to the lolcows than they already do, but I suspect they don't because the people they tend to target are already mental wrecks and it's just more entertaining to watch them implode on their own instead of intentionally ruining their lives. Although, I think they could scale back the doxing to just names and faces of the lolcows, but that's just me being optimistic.
4 likesI actually found the site through Metokur and the whole IBS drama and it's kind of amazing how addictive it can be to lurk on there.
@deathtrooper666 I was referring to the lolcows kiwifarms talks about.
1 likeHe wrote an article exposing the cp on 8chan, and he was completely cleared by the police. But sure tell me again how the people fighting cp are the real pedophiles.
7 likes+Delighted
10 likes"EXPOSING the cp on 8chan"
There's CP on all social media websites. It's just whether the pedos share it privately or share it on anonymous accounts on sites like 8chan. We've got the "nomaps" on twitter, who jumped from tumblr, for example.
@Julie Swevery Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, all the other major social media sites have more CP on them then the supposed wild-west of either 4chan or 8chan. I would be quite confident on betting it's actually worse per capita instead of just pure volume.
6 likes@Void of Space and Time of course you can't do anything if they share it privately, but do you actually want to tell me that all social media sites have approximately the same amount of open cp on them? Bc im pretty sure that 8chan is the only site that's blacklisted by Google for exactly that reason, they don't ban the people and the material unlike all other websites.
1 like@Gay Champagne Socialist citation badly needed my dude
7 likes@Julie SweveryThere were quite a lot of news stories from a while ago about the issue. The most recent was Youtube, though that targeted 'softcore' CP rings here, but I count those because CP is CP.
3 likes@Julie Swevery "the headlining thread on /hebe/ featured a link to an IRC channel hosted on starrevolution.org.[6] A simple IP trace quickly showed that starrevolution.org shared an IP address with multiple other sites - including Laurelai Bailey's personal website[7] and SJWiki, which Laurelai is the proprietress of.[8][9] Finally, it was discovered that Olson had a pre-existing relationship with Laurelai, both contacting her repeatedly via Twitter and being a routine editor of SJWiki. [10][11] Anonymous reports from other SJWiki editors allege that Laurelai was approached by Olson, and leaped at the opportunity to raise her personal profile and Social Justice bonafides. "
4 likes@Gay Champagne Socialist so how does this make the cp on 8chan any better. Yt actually did something against them almost immediately, unlike some other website
0 likes@RATO what
0 likes@Julie Swevery there is physical evidence that he did that, go on this link https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Dan_Olson and look at the sources for the claims
6 likes@Julie Swevery there is no cp on 8chan, it's the rule 1, if cp is posted it's removed
5 likes"Are there any global rules regarding content?
Only one:
Do not post, request, or link to any content that is illegal in the United States of America and do not create boards with the sole purpose of posting or spreading such content."
@RATO "there is no cp on 8chan" this is just wrong. Even if you falsely belief that Dan set this all up, 8chan still allowed it and didn't counteract. Any way you frame it, 8chan tolerated cp so can you please stop defending them?
3 likes@Julie Swevery they never tolerated cp, it was always against the rules and deleted, i was there back in 2014 during the third exodus when hotwheels was still the owner, cp means insta perma ban
9 likes@Julie Swevery i don't falsely believe, there is literal physical evidence proving that he set it up, it's not speculation
5 likes@RATO then how could Dan Olson have set up a board framing them
0 likes@Julie Swevery i posted a link that had the evidence but i think it got filtered, go on google and search "lolcow wiki dan olson" and you find that excerpt that i copied, you see those numbers? ex: "[3] [4]" you click on them and they redirect to the sources of the evidence proving that he did those things
6 likes@RATO RATO citing a website that's heavily biased towards Gamer gate is not the good evidence you think it is.
1 likeAnyways, maybe I should have been more specific: how would it have been possible for Dan Olson to set up cp on the site when they allegedly instantly ban and delete everything related to it?
Damn
0 likes@Julie Swevery look at the sources on the site and where they lead.
1 like@Gay Champagne Socialist
0 likesWhat are your opinions on the KicVic drama?
Probably becuase mass exposure would ruin it
0 likesToo bad CIA distributes CP and government is aware of this where do you think it all comes from?
1 likeDelighted The website has sources
0 likesLook at those
I think it was more along the lines of him taking screen shots of CP from 8chan boards to show as examples of 8chan being a terrible place, not realizing that by doing so he is downloading and distributing CP himself.
0 likes@Julie Swevery screenshots, IP adresses, etcetera can't be biased, this isn't about opinion
0 likes@RATO screenshots as in multiple? There's only one with no context, all other sources are total shit lmao.
1 like"Dan Olson wanted to frame and set up 8chan with an article" and the source links to Dan's own article and gives no evidence for his supposedly bad intentions, this is laughable
@Julie Swevery the IRC channel was registered on the same IP adress that was registered on laurelai's own personal website and her wikia
0 likes@Julie Swevery i'm not going to bother discussing more with you because you are in extreme levels of denial and not even arguing, just doing Eristic
1 likeDude Dan Olsen is popping off rn holy shit.
0 likesThey didn't listen.
5 likesThis is extremely ironic
0 likesDisliked this because it would've been ironically funny
1 likeThe worst thing about this: there would be no more balance on the neutral response video
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Press F to pay respect to neutral response
0 likesWe’re in the end game now
0 likesZelda into Bloons Tower defense music. Class
0 likesGod I hate Youtube.
4 likesWell Well Well EmpLemon See where we are Now
1 likeLike a fine wine.
2 likesdislikeless youtube
1 likewelcome to hell :)
Suddenly this video got recommended for me again. Figures.
0 likesif they remove dislikes, how will we keep neutral response truly neutral?
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Pappa Nut remove likes
9 likesTake away all the likes
9 likes@Gamer er well sadly a lot of those likes are from dead people or lost accounts.
1 likeHave the creator disable ratings?
0 likesI have never pressed the dislike botton…
2 likesNow they gone 💀
6 likesWe should’ve listened
0 likesAnd now they're gone... damn.
1 likeThat thumbnail is so simple yet so cool, reminds me of Ahoy's videos
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Those are dank.
10 likesOh shit Ahoy waddup
5 likessquar3 I fucking love ahoy dhdbeebev
2 likesHey Emp, what rating tier is this video in?
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Based on his own tier list, in the controversial tier.
0 likes15:24 a força do youtube brazuca aí ó
0 likesRIP dislikes
4 likesI've always disliked videos that have the comments off and or ratings off
6 likesand then leave, 95% of the time it means something is wrong with the video and the creator doesn't want newer viewers to know.
HE JUST DON'T MISS!
0 likesThis is a little too relevant today
1 likeLife is pain, I hate
2 likesEmp dude, props on this video. Good message, well researched and god damn i love well made charts. Good video, worth my time.
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Timothy Godbey poopee
0 likes@MSD preach brother
0 likesThey did it, YouTube removed dislike
3 likesanybody else returning here for obvious reasons
3 likeshe warned us
2 likesaged like milk
1 likeI never thought the day would come, but looks like dislike removal is happening in some form or another.
7 likesHe was a prophet
1 likeThis is so relevant today
0 likesI hate the new update that got rid of it! I would dislike the video..... LOL just trolling
3 likesLiterally only EmpLemon can rant about dislikes for 27 minutes.
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Timothy Michael Naw I think it’s ranting lol
1 likeTimothy Michael .....Nah. Rant.
0 likesTimothy Michael Could’ve sworn that that’s what I was already doing but hey thanks for reiterating my actions.
0 likesHe edits it so it's visually funny as well. It's layered. Like an ogre.
0 likesyoutube strikes again
2 likesLet’s see where this goes
0 likesIn full effect now. Prophetic
0 likesEveryone is just going to compare ratios of views to likes now
1 likeNooooo it actually happened 🤢
3 likesGod help us now
2 likesAlmost 1 million views lets go
2 likesAnd emp called it
3 likesYou can use the dislike button as a "I've seen it" button to avoid getting constant reposts in your recommendations because videos you've already disliked will never pop up in your recommendations unless Youtube deliberately promotes a video
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You will have to remove it from your history, or it will be spammed regardless.
0 likes@Pokémaniac Guquiz ?? Remove what and spam what ??
0 likes@Jonseredi that one video. If it is still in your viewing history, the recommendations will not stop coming.
0 likes@Pokémaniac Guquiz I think you misunderstood my comment. If you dislike a video THAT VIDEO will not show up in your recommendations anymore unless there's a special promotion towards that video. You still get OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS based on that video which is still good because they're not videos you've already seen. You can also select "I'm not interested in recommendations based on this video", I'm well aware
0 likesThere's an easier method - the "not interested" button that shows up if you click the three dot menu on the video suggestion. This also helps not skew your future suggestions.
0 likes@Selicre But they can still pop up in your recommendations after some time. Disliked videos just don't unless Youtube makes an exception
0 likes@Jonseredi I've never seen this happen, and it's not like you can't do it again. I've basically been doing this for years now, for as long as the feature has been available, and my feed is now actually quite decent.
0 likes@Selicre does not stop matpat coming back in my feed every time.
1 like@Selicre Yeah personal experiences aren't creditable here, but just saying you're not interested does not block those videos from popping up in your recommendations again, it only induces the system not to show it to you to some degree which is why it's inferior to disliking that just prevents it with promotional exclusions that will always be recommended to you
0 likesAlso good for you. The decency of my recommendations is completely up to youtube. Usually I discover good videos like I did with emplemon one day, but sometimes it's just utter garbage especially if youtube themselves promotes certain channels/videos since they're usually not what I want to see
“Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted?"
0 likesDamn it man
0 likesI love this feature. Disliked.
2 likesI’m sorry YouTube 2009-2019 for saying you were bad
16 likesI kneel
If only I knew how bad it would really get
Well that's it
2 likesIn the arrrrms, of, the angels, you'll be goooooone
0 likesPlus the consensus of the populace is not the same as truth, you can ignore dislikes too.
1 likeWe tried lads ill see you all at the pub first rounds on me
3 likesRIP dislike button
3 likesemp
0 likesis alf right
Watching this in 2021, it's evident.
0 likesWe're fucked.
welp, I guess we all know why we are here now November 2021 sad times
1 likeLike/Dislike ratio is a measure of controversy, while Like/View ratio is a measure of how much people like a video.
5 likesoh how i miss them
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You can bring it back with a browser extension on desktop and the YouTube vanced on mobile
1 likeWelp... its gonna happen :/
0 likesThis video is very relevant now...
1 likeim not a big trumper but you bring up the mueller report is pretty funny considering the recent news concerning the steele dossier
1 likeAh I see Emplemon is a man of culture. I recognize that Bloons tower defense music anywhere
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The Fish X that alone tells us that he is to be trusted (cuz he is)
9 likesSame here, buddy
1 likeAh yes~ That song got stuck in my head for playing it too much... Is one of the best tower defense games ever!
1 likePaolo we need to save the BTD series since they're discontinuing Flash
4 likes@King Dededelicious There is a BTD 6 on Steam. But it's paid. And it's grindy af. And the double cash mode is a microtransaction. At least there are plenty of user-made challenges and a good variety of towers (alchemist is amazing)
4 likesI didn't really like his biast critiscism of leftism
2 likes@quantum. Yup, almost all of his examples were biased towards the right wing
2 likesRamón Elbal Ruiz and it costs twice as much as the mobile version. didn't stop me from buying it twice tho
0 likesRIP dislikes.
2 likesThe dislikes not being seeable, manly tears
0 likesDepressing what came after this video.
0 likesI love how thorough your content is, even if your channel became a top 10/reaction channel I'd still watch it
4 likesYep, it has started...
1 likeThe start of a new era...
NOW WE CAN ABUSE THE FUCK OUT OF THE COMMENT SECTION WITH THE WORD "DISLIKE"!
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That or tell everyone to install the dislike restore browser extension.
1 likeProphetic...
4 likeshe was correct the counter for dislikes is gone
0 likesMan this is way more relevant
0 likesJust wanna congratulate you on making a video that has a second life (becomes relevant again years down the line).
5 likesIt's pretty cool when videos suddenly become relevant again because their creators wanted to talk about something that, at the time, not many cared about (I think).
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Third life*
0 likesWe're doomed.
0 likes19:31 I regret my curiosity and reading this😢🤒
1 likemuh feeling being hurt from a virtual click.
0 likesedit: I'm not wrong people are wrong.
I love them
1 likeWe are screwed
1 likeAged like wine
0 likeshe was right
0 likesWe all need to band together and get the views thru the roof so that this vid gets on YouTube's trending page. Oh...wait, we're living in a reality where that likely will never happen, and dislikes will be a thing of the past. 🤦♂️
11 likesSomeone show this to Susan.
1 likeDownward spiral
3 likesIs that the music from Bloons TD 5?
1 likeHe warned us
0 likesTHIS IS SO RELEVANT NOW WTF
16 likes#keepdislikes
Welp. Here we are.
2 likesDownward spiral
3 likesThey did it unfortunately
0 likesMe at 1:00 pm
1 likeComments: This is so relevant!
Me: Damn it I’m too late!!
Well, it happened
1 likeHere i am
3 likesAfter the thing happened
Gee wiz mister. I wonder why this lil ol video film gained traction in this neck of time?😗
1 likechecks watch
1 likeaw shit, here we go again
Ah, yes. Not letting people show their disagreement. Now where have we seen that before?
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I'll give you a hint, it's either in Germany in a certain point the 20th century.
21 likes@Giovanni or a very specific country north of south Korea... I wonder what it is...
20 likesTrump and fake news?!
0 likesMost authoritarian regimes in history and more!
1 like@Giovanni WORLD WAR 2 INTENSIFIES
0 likesNobody can disagree if there is only 1 ruler to rule them all in a dictatorship :)
1 likeMore relevant than ever
6 likesThis video's a win-win for EmpLemon. If you like it, you agree, and if you dislike it you're proving his points. This is genius.
3 likeswelp here we go
2 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
4 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
This truly is the worst timeline.
1 likeAnd then they did it.
0 likeswhy is this relevant now
3 likesSoon they're going to get rid of comments too
2 likesFor anyone that didn't see yt's new twitter post from 3 hours ago, it's:
56 likes"In response to creator feedback around well-being and targeted dislike campaigns, we're testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count. If you're part of this small experiment, you might spot one of these designs in the coming weeks"
[then shows picture of new button designs for like, dislike, share, download, and save.]
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Yeah this video is now so much more relevant, but it was already good advice for creators.
11 likes@Mercury no it’s because they’re pissed about rewind being the most disliked video
0 likesThey are surrendering to TicTok.
0 likesDo what I do don't like anything unless you actually like it
0 likesThey did it...
1 likewhats a dislike
2 likesi only know buy product and get excited for next product
RIP DISLIKES
2 likesahead of it's time...
0 likesI use an extra channel called Substitute Dislike Button to leave comments under my videos telling people they're allowed to, "dislike the my video by liking the comment."
0 likesEdit: They removed it.
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so a ratio bot?
0 likesHe warned you all
0 likesThis guy is using Bloons Tower defense 5 Music. That deserves a like
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Nice to know people like us noticed!
7 likesthe nostalgia hit me like a truck
3 likesBloons gang
0 likesDeserves as F
0 likesZOMG Flashbacks
1 likeS u p e r M o n k e y
0 likesInstantly dropped a like when I recognized it.
1 likeI think it would be a neat idea if he did a documentary on flash games since flash will be discontinued in a few short years and all those games won’t be playable anymore.
2 likesHe also used the Simpsons hit and run for PS2 Soundtrack
0 likesI didn't wanna say anything because I wasn't sure it was actually from BTD5
1 likeGlad i wasn't the only one who noticed
0 likesI thought it was btd4 music but it sounded a bit different lol
0 likesHaha yesj
0 likes@King Dededelicious M O N K E Y G O D
0 likesWell guys, we lost.
1 likeOdysee have, and will continue to have a disslike button.
0 likesIt is time for a update
1 liketop tier vid
0 likesI agree YouTube shouldn't remove dislikes, but argument basically boils down to "people don't weaponize the dislike button, but also weaponizing the dislike button is good and people should do it."
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It's true though. It only hurts people who want to lie to themselves about their popularity.
0 likesIts happened, dislikes have been removed, THE END IS BEGINNING.
0 likesUnfortunately we have been brought here again.
4 likesNow I won't know or remember the dislike number count
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It went off in about 83k vs 11k.
0 likesClickbaiting YouTubers lovin this shit
0 likesWell, they did it, today (November 10, 2021) is the day YouTube has finally removed the visibility of dislikes.
10 likesMy spiral only points down
1 likewe all came here for a reason...
0 likesWell.....this age well
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No, it aged extremely well. He predicted that Youtube would eventually try to delete dislikes, and he was right.
1 like@Sneal changed my comment to be more appropriate
1 likeUnfortunately
5 likesThis video is spitting fax
0 likesI mean he was right
0 likesunfortunately youtube didn't like dislikes
1 likepainfully relevant...
2 likesforeshadowing
1 like"Very different from anything I've made in the past year and a half"
63 likesis emp finally going to drop a new YTP?
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I would expect an IRL video more, where he shows his face or somethin'. But I dunno
3 likesidk, i think he's completely forgone standalone poops and instead utilize the editing style for his informative works for the lels. But I guess we'll eventually see
9 likesnoob2243 his face has been revealed before
0 likesDistrack?
0 likesGod damn it
0 likeswelp they did it
0 likesLike a fine wine
1 likeNOO WE CAN'T HAVE NEUTRAL RESPONSE ANYMORE CUZ THEY REMOVED DISLIKES
2 likesI disliked this video because I like this video on dislikes
1 likeIt has begun.
3 likesWelp they're gone now...
0 likesDan Olson does look like the type who wants to give corporations more power. He just doesn't know it.
17 likesThis video has 11 thousand dislikes, interesting.
0 likesHOLY SHIT. THE DISLIKES ARE GONE PUBLICLY.
0 likessend this to youtube
0 likesah shit they removed it
1 like🤔🤔🤔 YouTube December 2019 Policy update now considers this video and videos like this to be Bullying 🥺🥺🥺
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?
1 likeexcuse me what is this channel
9 likes@Pirated Vegas Crashes Alot
12 likesThis channel is a gift from God. Praise the Downward Spiral Master, for he is our leader!
@Pirated Vegas Crashes Alot haha same, the little checkmark set me off xD
3 likesAnyone else see dislikes come back for a bit then go away again? Or am I going crazy?
0 likeshow many dislikes does this video have now emp
0 likesdownward spiral
2 likesthe prescience ☹️
0 likesbro this video is crazy
1 likeCame here because of High Boi´s recommendation
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Same mate :D
1 likeLol me too
1 likeno more dislike button :(
0 likesDisliked to spite youtube
4 likesand so it has come to pass
0 likessuch a world without zinc vibe xD come back dislikes !
0 likesLittle did we know
1 likeDude the dislikes I almost got me take away lemon law you have to come back your Dewey is 250 YouTube forgot to stop it ever do that system ever again or even dumb ones
0 likesEagerly awaiting the day this site becomes the patreon blogger hugbox google always wanted.
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I doubt that would happen. He's in a big circle that will support him; he has friends to back him up.
2 likesSuddenly relevant video
1 likeWhat did folding ideas do?
0 likesTHE GATES TO HELL HAS OPENED
0 likesPREPARE FOR WORSE
You know it got bad when the only website semi popular website that still keep dislikes(and it functionality ) is Reddit and know your meme
0 likesDislikes are now gone; now even this video has no dislikes.
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Not for me
1 likeYou are part of the unfortunate
1 likeI can still see them. For now.
0 likesYoutube did not like this video
1 likehahahahaha so how about that mueller report?
0 likesHoly fuck its begun
2 likesOf course they want to remove it.
288 likesThen YouTube rewind 2018 won't be the most dislike video anymore.
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And when all the videos can only be liked no video will be liked
15 likesIf they remove it, that statistic will never update, and YouTube rewind 2018 will stay the most disliked video forever
0 likesdownward spiral
1 likeRip dislike button
2 likeswell, here we are
1 likeboy o boy did this age well
0 likesEmperor you are one of the few true YouTubers left! Also, you’re a YouTube prophet.
17 likesOkay that’s all I have to say.
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The inquisition wants to know your location
0 likesYes indeed YOUTUBE 0:39
0 likesIt fckigujng happened
5 likesthis video is relevant now
1 likeand that is not good
Sorry for the dislike. #mostlypeasfuldislikeprotest
0 likesAaaaand the dislikes disappeared... So sad...
0 likesthe irony
2 likesToo relivent.
0 likesOh the Irony. -_-
2 likesWait this is two years old?
0 likesdown
0 likesward
spiral
Well, what do you know?
0 likeswho else came from high boy
1 likeYoutube: yes
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesThis is becoming more relevant. Love ya content Emps.
12 likesWho else here after the recent update?
0 likesthe prophet
3 likesFascist Gonna Fascist
2 likesbruh moment
0 likesFirst they take the dislike button. Then they'll take the comments. Soon they will take over opinions. Orwellian future is nigh.
216 likesWell, here we are
0 likesand here we are
2 likesComence to press the panic button.
0 likesthis is ironic
0 likesIts incredibly ironic how many dislikes this video has. (I'm not trying to make a statement, I just think its funny; I actually completely agree that dislikes need to be kept)
4 likeswelp. it's here.
3 likes12:17 gross... Tim Pool is such a slime ball
0 likesLemon how u feel?!
0 likesThe day will come when they will even remove the Like button. That day is not far along down the road. It might happen sooner than you think. Way, way sooner.
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I don't think they would do that. I think YouTube wants to cater to the consumers so that they see a big number and click.
2 likes@Anavrin consider the fact that your recommendations are far more influenced by the titles you click than by what videos you like. The act of liking does indeed add to that ponderance but the gross of it has already been established by the act of going to that video, and if you think about it, that is far more meaningful because it is the part that represents curiosity. That is what actually drives people. The act of liking does nothing to confirm whether that curiosity has been satisfied, but instead just establishes if the content is in tune with your ego. The platform is far more interested in feeding you content that will stirr you one way or another, they don't really care about feeding your ego.
0 likesStill, I guess there is indeed a point to be made about keeping one trapped in a self-reassuring bubble but as advertisers they also need to bring in new content and products into said bubble, and this is again why the act of clicking the video is more revelatory than the act of clicking like: curiosity. Whether you like the product or not will entirely be up to you but the fact that you looked at it - that is what they are after. That is the reasoning behind what I said, but ofc there are always other ways of looking at it, depending on one's purpose.
@Chris Rosenkreuz ight
0 likesOh how you called the future
1 likeNothing new under the sun...
0 likeswe've plummeted
0 likesWell i mean that you could instal a crome extention and see the dislike and dislike cocomellon or we start a potition to add it back
0 likesNot age well UH
2 likesAnyone calculated his likes percentage?
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This video has 81,943 likes to 11,234 dislikes, amounting to a ratio of 88%. VidIQ still works on Microsoft Edge!
0 likesOH IT'S ALL GONE TO SHIT!!!!
0 likesWell...
0 likesHere we are...
Oh my god. You're right.
1 likeNothing matters anymore
0 likes"Ironic"
1 likeThey're gone.
0 likesHow to deal with dislike mobs: Make it so you have to watch the video or at least 90% of it.
3 likesThat way if a youtuber is having drama and sent you to the enemy's channel, you can see the other person's part and reasoning.
fucking rip bruh
2 likesHave we hit the bottom of the downward spiral?
2 likesOh shit no dislikes is live
2 likesthe prophecy
3 likesSteam's dislike button for reviews turned into the same useless dislike button YouTube comments have.
106 likesWhat was once "120 out of 600 people found this review helpful" turned into "120 people found this review helpful", making many awful reviews look decent.
Luckily for us they added a "funny" option. So now terrible reviews look like this, "86 people found this review helpful. 584 people found this review funny".
Steam unknowing created a clown spotting button.
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what a terrible decision on Valves part, especially given that Steam exists solely because it at some point provided people a good user experience for making informed purchasing decisions - even amazon knows better than to sabotage itself like that.
9 likes@YouTopia let me guess, you vehemently defend review bombing games?
0 likes@fartsnstuf Like the "dislike mobs" talked about in this video, review bombs have reasoning. Of course, in this case they do exist and aren't hugely rare, but groups of people don't poorly review a game for no reason. Once again referencing the video, this doesn't always mean the game's bad, but it does mean the people behind it did something wrong.
9 likes@fartsnstuf the need to control an environment to prevent anything bad happening ever is pathological tbh.
9 likesI'm willing to accept the possibility of people abusing their freedoms as a trade-off of them actually having the ability to make meaningful choices.
@Sleeves The problem is that you're comparing apples to oranges in this case, people already bought their desired game, and whenever something bad happens around the developers/parent company (Take-Two temporarily banning single player mods with the use of OpenIV, past Metro games getting bombed cause Metro Exodus is going to be a Epic store exclusive alongside Rocket League and Borderlands 3 getting acquired as well) considering that Valve isn't THAT controlling in comparison to Youtube in this case as long you're not a hacker/cheater, you have as much freedom of speech you can do on the site, I agree that what Take-Two did was harsh, and what's done is done as single-player mods are back and OpenIV is still running, but there could have been a less drastic way to amend the issue at hand, and if all other options have failed, then review bombing is fully justified. In the case of Metro's future games, Rocket League and Borderlands 3 being Epic store exclusive; review-bombing for petty internet drama that only a minority cares about is ridiculous, cause they'll eventually crawl back/towards to Steam in a couple years, or in Rocket League's case: not leave the steam store, cause Bethesda tried this same sort of shit by removing games from Steam for their own launcher and store; and since it's doing so pitifully, it's crawling back to Steam with games like Doom Eternal, Rage 2, Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot and Wolfenstein: Youngblood. appearing late 2019, not to mention adding back the games that was once removed from the Steam store.
0 likes@fartsnstuf the problem with the Take-Two case is that if we tried to fight the mod ban in a less harsh way they would just not care
4 likesreview bombs were used BECAUSE they were effective - as on here
disliking rewind is a message that we don't like their approach, negatively reviewing a game (in this example, GTA 5) is a message that we don't like what they are doing
and it's the only way to answer in a way that they will care about, since many people might not look at the forums of a game/comments of a video, but they will definitely notice when a game/video is rated under 50% positive, and that makes the corporate heads go nuts
@fartsnstuf I disagree. Sure, a lot of these issues are temporary and/or not relating to the core game, but how else will people speak out? With big developers, the only two ways for customers to protest is boycotting and review bombing, and if the game's actually good, then clearly the second option is better. Companies will keep doing what makes more money, so this is a good way to influence them into doing what's good for the consumer.
4 likes@Sleeves But there are several problems and variables in conjunction with each other, one of which is that the general audience won't/don't look into the context of why it's being review bombed, for example Monster Hunter World had a bad launch, which the reviews reflected it, after the game got patched and fixed after the launch; the reviews still reflects the game when before it got patched and fixed, still leaving it at a 6/10; which is same rating of No Man's Sky, a notorious rip-off that over-hyped itself into oblivion. between the two, i'd play Monster Hunter World over No Man Sky any day of the week, another notable example is Kerbal Space Program being review bombed because of a controversial chinese translation which boils down to PC culture trying to police everything. In short it's like Reddit with its own sort of ruling system
0 likes@fartsnstuf you shouldn't take out a feature that ultimately does good just because some people use it for the wrong reasons
0 likesLol they are removing dislikes
2 likesWhat a coincidence
0 likesWell that sucks
3 likesthe irony
0 likesI’m getting Netflix flashbacks, god I miss the Five star rating system
70 likesRIP
3 likeshmm, youtube just thinking their funny recommend me this now huh
0 likesprophetic
0 likesLol I heard bloons music in the background
0 likesIt’s finally gone
0 likesWouldn’t be surprised if they completely suppress the last frontier of free opinion next: the comments
0 likes#justacommentofappreciation
0 likesUMMM, Am I the only one who just noticed dislikes are disabled in youtube?
2 likes(11/29/21)
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It’s the beginning of the downward spiral. Enjoy what little is left while you still can.
8 likesAnother reason to use YT less and to only use it on my Pc with an adblocker and a free dislike extension
2 likesThe announcement was made weeks ago. It's just been a slow rollout.
1 likeWell sh!t, if this does not trigger a response, like when they tried to overhaul the verification system, to bring back the visibility of dislikes, they will remove them completely.
0 likes@Sharp Hoplite It's been triggering a big response alright. 'Me at the Zoo' the first ever YouTube video had it's description changed to a rebuke of the dislike removal. Even Jawed is fucking pissed.
1 like23:56 They didn't listen!
3 likessend youtube hq this
4 likesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
3 likesits november 15th and this video has 81k likes and 11k dislikes
0 likesto sum it up with dislikes =
4 likes"Balanced as all things should be" -Thanos
without dislikes =
"On the brink of collapse" -Thanos
I can only see them on my PC ;-;
0 likesthe prophet
1 likeThe prophet
1 likeHmm.. how relevant
2 likesThey just mad cus youtube rewind 2018 got so many dislikes
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Yet Susan is Happy of It Being the Most Disliked Vid
16 likesFreesmart Channel as if that isn’t completely PR and how much the idea was thrown around almost a month after the rewind hit the top of dislikes
6 likesOhh boy wait for youtube rewind 2019
4 likesMere exposure effect
2 likesIf only they represented actual youtubers instead of Hollywood celebrities, trust fund babies, and nu males.
4 likesBut nope, gotta clench every last cent of that ad revenue! dab dab dab "hIt oR mIsS!!1! fortnite"
And 2019's rewind also. Instead of getting in touch with the community they still are trying to impose that we should be happy with them.
3 likes@Sue Zuccati They basically said: "If we are too dumb to make a rewind, we are not even trying this year. This wouldn't have happened if you didn't dislike our past rewind, be respectful this time." And it's like the most insulting thing youtube has done to the community, it's like they gave up on us, and blamed it on ourselves. This company deserves to learn a lesson from the community, because they didn't understand the first time.
5 likes1K
0 likesexactly
0 likesWonder what he thinks now?
1 likeYouTube is bad
2 likes10k dislikes lmaoooooo
0 likesthey turned them off because their political propaganda was getting mass disliked
1 likeOh boy. This aged like fine wine
9 likeswhy even have dislikes or likes at this point.
0 likesput them back susan
1 likereturnyoutubedislike
1 likeWaiting for the inevitable sequel to this video
0 likes"Removing isn't just a good thing, it's a great thing."
43 likesI always interpreted that more like "isn't it great that I've been incapacitated from saying anything negative about this? Sure is awesome."
But what do I know
I'm so sorry
3 likes*sigh*
2 likes11k Dan Olsen fans, i see 👀👀
1 likeHell yeah! I for one prefer these long videos, as it gives me something to stream in the background whilst I'm doing tasks. I'm currently moving into a new apartment, so I guess it's time for me to hear my favorite angry vegan ranting whilst I'm loading boxes!
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I didn't know he's vegan! Neat
5 likesfine wine
2 likesthey actually fucking removed the dislike button its coming true
0 likeshere from high boi
3 likesAnd here we are.
0 likesI hear that RealJims music. Now you can’t dislike that.
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Meme Insider what about the Balloons tower defense theme
30 likes@Supreme Lord Daddy Emperor President Trump yeah that made me smile a bit, never seen someone using btd soundtracks on a video
9 likesWhat about the superstar saga music? 🔥
1 like@Supreme Lord Daddy Emperor President Trump the nostalgia hearing that hit me like a truck. That game series was my childhood. I remember back when BTD 2 came out and everyone at school was super excited.
2 likesWho's gonna tell him
1 likeTo support, I’ll give a big ol dislike. It might not add to the counter, but I hope you see.
0 likesHey YouTube watch this
1 likeUse this comment as a dislike button
7 likesNot for the video but for Youtube's shitty antics
I think this video serves as an amazing commentary on how those at the top try to keep those beneath them by masking their agenda to "serve the underdog" when in reality all they really care about is themselves.
3 likesIt can be seen everywhere. Relationships, our government, politics, and YouTube's dislike system as shown in this video.
Listen to 15:30. YouTube's argument for obscuring the dislike button is to protect the smaller creators from the "dislike mob". When, in reality, the videos with the highest percentage of dislikes are all corporate entities and no small creators. So really, this policy is not in service of the community. It is in sole self interest of the 1%
Thank you very much I just pulled this out of my a$$
Yes
0 likesJust yes
yet here we are.
0 likesNow all they have to do is get rid of that pesky comment section, then youtube will be a much more inclusive community that allows people to express themselves and their opinions
2 likesOh by the way I was being sarcastic
Prophetic
0 likes“creators are better served by having a circle of people they trust” he’s literally advocating for a... circlejerk?
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Kinda hot ngl
3 likesHigh boi brought me here
1 likeOh man. This is not a drill.
0 likes👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
0 likesHere we are now...
0 likesEmpLemon is the greatest prophet of our time.
14 likesFine wine baby
2 likesApparently, Youtube dislikes them.
4 likesAs a European, I can confidently say that I accidentally liked the 2018 rewind.
0 likesAnd here we are...
0 likesEmp’s video essays have a 100% chance of being at least entertaining
13 likesThe dislike mob statement is stupid. There are way better ways to deal with that like making it to where you have to watch the video to a certain point to dislike.
1 likeI will now comment like or dislike on videos because of youtube being youtube as usual
0 likesHe fucking called it
0 likeslol im switching to odysee
0 likesIn memory of the Dislike button.
11 likescant fucking believe it
0 likesJo you casually making box plots and statistic stuff I am studying psychology and need help with that stuff plllss help..
1 likeSad.
3 likesNostradamus
1 likeI clicked the disliked button not because I didn't like the video, I quite enjoyed it actually. I clicked dislike to show my support for the dislike button.
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Oh good. People are doing it ironically.
11 likesWhy youtube why
1 likerip dislike button
0 likesRip
2 likesRip dislikes
0 likesCan't believe YouTube is actually removing dislikes now...
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wym you 'can't' believe
1 likelmao
well here we are again, this video is always worth revisiting when youtube messes with dislikes, even in spite of overwhelming criticism to the idea
2 likesRewatching emplemon reminded me of the jelloapocalypse "vote." video. Ahhhhh, what a time.
2 likes"What do dislikes do?" Show if people like or dislike the video. It's pretty straight forward I think.
Youtube: Look at how poorly this video has been received! Removing dislikes is clearly a popular opinion, judging from how many dislikes this video has.
4 likesI still remember when you could dislike comments on YouTube and the dislikes would actually show up.
2 likesThe dislike button on comments is just a ghost button at this point, I'm convinced it doesn't actually do anything now.
Bring dislikes on comments back! It was a good way for communities to defend against spam and bots in the comments because they'd dislike the shit out of them and they'd get pushed to the bottom of the comments. Now comments could have 1 billion dislikes for all we know but it'd just look like a regular comment still. What's the point of even having it at this point?
Its over emp dislikes get removed today its been a good run
22 likesRip dislike button (2010-2021)
Ironic how the people who dislike dislikes disliked this video in order to show their support for disliking dislikes, ironic
4 likesThe dislikes on this video are the people who want dislikes removed, which is a paradox
3 likesThis aged like fine wine
13 likesYou know I don’t know if a lot of the dislikes on this video are some kind of intentional irony, or just proves his point or a little bit of both.
1 likeThis aged well holy shit.
6 likesUnrelated to anything: your voice reminds me of Yandere Dev. It's so distinct, slow, analytical, and confident, which perfectly pairs with videos about the themes of pointing out truths through data and people's bizarre choices. I'm inclined to trust you more than any psychologist I've ever seen appear on TV
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That's the most brutal insult I've heard in a while
0 likesIt's been an honor, gonna miss you dislike button
5 likesalmost 3 years later and now they're fucking doing it
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Wait, this is not the first time?
1 like@Rated R for real this time
2 likesYou were right, Emp.
4 likesAaaaaand its done... Emp's known since 2018 and nobody listened to him
6 likesI think more bigger social medias should have dislike buttons. It shows how the masses actually feel about content and it's helped in alot of bigger cases it seems like. But that's just me
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Agree
0 likesHISTORY REPEATS
8 likesI agree with this video, but I am the kind of guy that sorts reddit by "controversial" to get around the hive mind circle jerks lol.
1 likeand this video regains its relevance once again.
6 likesThis place gets worse and worse.
There's a very simple solution, simply deactivate the rating buttons until you've watched a minimum of 25% of the video (not necessarily just the first 25%, or any uninterrupted portion that's 25%, just a quarter of the total length of the video, in however many pieces and if you finish watching another time) and maybe a minimum number of minutes for short videos.
0 likesAlso I preferred the more granular star system, but If I got to reform the current ratings system, I'd leave the like/dislike bar alone, with the same very basic showing the number of likes and dislike and the graph. But what I'd do if give the user the ability to vote twice. So people could either vote like, double like, dislike, and double dislike. But the great thing about this is that for most people it wouldn't really change anything, everyone gets 2 votes and the like/dislike bar still just shows the totals and the ratio, but if you rolled over the bar you'd open a details pane with what would still be effectively the star system, you'd have a menu with 5 options, REALLY like, like, neutral, dislike and REALLY dislike. and then you get 5 bar graphs that show you how many PEOPLE voted for which of the 5 options.
So you could see some more useful information like you might have a 98% like/dislike ratio, but when you look you see only a handful of people rating it REALLY, by far the most people just liked it, a significant number of people voted neutral but that few as they are, your down votes came almost exclusively from people who REALLY disliked it. From this you can determine that your content is generally mediocre, fairly bland and non-offensive, but that you don't really have a dedicated core audience and that a small percentage of people either really hated it, were extremely offended, or they strongly disagreed with your message.
Bastards did it. Not super Democratic, in my opinion
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Don't you mean 'OUR' opinion????
6 likesthe concept of someone disliking this video is extremely ironic if you think about it
1 likehow does someone convey that they don't agree with the idea of dislikes on youtube? by disliking the video of course!
It's official. It's being rolled out now.
6 likesToday they made another tweet about removing dislikes
6 likesIt's laughable to say that people who come to youtube are anti-big corporations. You sit here on your Windows or Apple computers and view the site on Google Chrome.
2 likesthis video rings truther today.
6 likesDoesn’t Dan Olson have half a million subs and also a pretty large community within breadtube? Seems like his audience likes him and doesn’t mind that he disables comments on certain videos that hit the zeitgeist.
2 likesIt is confirmed that dislikes are the same engagement factor as likes for exposure algorithms. So today is opposite day. Never be saddened by the ratio on this video.
1 likeThe day has come
11 likesThe end of an era
5 likesthey should have a like/dislike waiting period when watching any video
1 likeAnd now they're doing it as if it's no big deal
3 likesthis aged like gold
3 likesIt’s always great to see how high that number is in YouTube Rewind
0 likesYOUTUBE BACK AT IT
6 likesPaying my Respects. RIP criticism on YouTube I guess
1 likeI was dislike bombed for no real reason for a few years until I moved on from national content. Even I don't support removing dislikes.
0 likeslooks like youtube bowed down to big corporations!
2 likeswelp fuck, sometimes I wish companies would just listen to people that aren't full on brain dead.
5 likesI hope dislikes aren't finally gone now, please tell me how badly this comment ages.
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They are finally gone...
0 likesI installed a Firefox add on to reappear the dislike counter but apparently it won't work in near t :(
*future
0 likesAnd here we are. Predictable but still disappointed.
3 likesI should set a timer for when comments will be made private and only the creator can see them.
Aged like wine
6 likesMake a response video!
7 likesF
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Cybershe
1 likeEmpLemon is the greatest prophet of our time
1 likeF
0 likesI think they should get rid of likes and dislikes and instead have it that the video has a bump rate, so that likes counteract dislikes and vice versa.
1 likeSo a controversial youtube video would have as many "bumps" as a video that is barely seen because the likes and dislikes are so high equally.
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Likes and dislikes shouldn't ever have an effect on video viewership or else "dislike mobs" would actually become a real thing like on Reddit
0 likesThey should just make the dislikes on comments actually work.
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They work, instead of a bad comment having dislikes, it has no likes
0 likesIt used to be like that, I don't know why they changed it
1 likeThose tiers seem pretty off to me ( I'm not a content creator ) but video is great, as always
0 likesEmpLemon saw this from Future History.
4 likesMaybe they should make the the button only clickable when you watch more or finish the video?
1 likeThe dislike button on comments is just there to mock you
4 likesbruh ive watched like 7 of your vids in the past 2 days, more than any other content creator and you still dont come up in my recommended 😩
2 likes9:00 yup. If I go on a video and the ratings or comments are disabled, that's an immediate red flag and I dip out of there ASAP.
1 likeI disliked the video to show how much i support you.
1 likeI never look at the dislikes until I realize the video truly sucks. The dislikes only confirm my reason for looking at the dislikes.
1 likeShow that video to whoever decided to remove the count🙄
3 likesgod damnit, this is relevant again
3 likesWell I guess this is a controversial video based on the like percentage.
0 likesDislikes are needed for sites with recommendations, LittleBigPlanet removed dislikes and the games recommendations never stopped being mostly trash.
1 like78k likes 10k dislikes
2 likesa video about dislikes gets disliked a lot
If it's <50% then it's YouTube rewind tier
0 likesWhat even is the point of likes if dislikes are gone? Just remove the system entirely at that point...
2 likesi disliked this video just because you should like them, an anyways great video emp :)
0 likesI actually like the days of the star ratings better.
1 likeUghhhh…back to this video. Youtube did it again… 😔
5 likesOh, the one video I can see the dislike bar. Thanks YouTube.
1 likeI'm watching on my phone and it doesn't even show the bar so you can easily see the ratio. It just shows the numbers. Also disliking a comment seems to do absolutely nothing
1 likeShoutout to that time Zach told everyone to dislike bomb that one oneyplays video
0 likesWelp its time for me to pack up and carry on off. See you on another alternative platform!
1 likeFor some reason, they removed the visibility of the amount of dislikes a comment gets.
1 likeFor example, this comment has two or three likes and over a thousand dislikes and yet you cannot see that.
dislike count before youtube hid it all: 11153
2 likesThe prophet had spoken and we fail to listen
4 likesLMAOOOO they just removed the dislike count.
3 likesNailed it
2 likesFUUUUCCJKKK NOOOOOOOOOOO
2 likesat least dislikes are still counted, so there’s a chance, small chance that they could revert it.
16:33
1 likeIm subscribed to several female and minority creators and i don't think one of them has experienced a dislike mob on any video
Funnily enough they don't really get involved in controversy they umm
Make dresses
Tell jokes
Play video games that sort of thing the kind of stuff that doesn't give you dislike mobs from people who disagree with you
and whaddya know, the madmen finally did it
1 likeWell, now youtube is removing them lol (still love this video haha)
1 likedamn it youtube.
2 likesOn all YouTube Kidz videos, the comments are disabled, but the ratings are left open.
0 likesAlmost like they acknowledge kids shouldn't be exposed to YouTube comments, but the likes & dislikes are perfectly fine for the developing mind
I went agead and Disliked this Video with how much I loved this
1 likePatricia Taxxon is the only good YouTuber that I can think of that doesn't have likes enabled.
0 likesIt's happening.
5 likesOn Steam, there is no way no dislike game reviews that aren’t helpful, so the only way to show others that the review is bad is by giving it a clown award lol
0 likesmfw lula gets literally twice as many votes as bolsonaro in the next brazilian election. fascist bros... we got too cocky
1 likeThe day of reckoning is upon us
2 likesOh boy they're doing it AGAIN
2 likesme who has a 40% liked video: HMMM
0 likes10k dislikes yeah this is a banger for sure
1 likeman used the btd5 music.... i gaind alot of respect for you
0 likesim gonna dislike this video on principle great vid tho
1 likebruh what im getting insanely nostalgic, what game is that music from 7:00-7:40 or smth from?
0 likesGOD FUCKING DAMMIT
3 likesThe prophecy has come true
1 likeHey, they finally got removed!
1 likeDear EmpLemon,
4 likesI have long been a fan of your work, and was delighted to discover that we are peers on this oft-underappreciated issue of dislike suppression. However, as a self-styled democratist of internet discourse, I have ironically found it necessary to exercise my powers of "veto" on this selfsame video.
This is entirely due to the earrape segment found at 22:12 . I simply cannot find the words to communicate the seething enmity I felt towards you during it's excessive and maliciously self-indulgent runtime. It was appallingly insensitive towards your "secretly-listening-to-video-essays-at-work-through-an-earpiece-that-he-can't-be-seen-taking-out-of-his-ear-or-else-he-might-get-fired" demographic, and was about as tone-deaf as the injured parties were upon its completion. I suppose it is self-evident that my only recourse to represent my outrage to anywhere near the magnitude it so desperately deserves is through the time-honored medium of pointlessly bombastic and sententious letter composition. Rest assured, each and every ounce of supercilious disdain you may have detected upon reading this electronic missive, was, (in point of fact) entirely (though not altogether unironically) intentional. At the risk of sounding indecorous: fuck you. And please allow me to present this along with my downvote: 🖕
(Notwithstanding, I quite enjoy your work on the whole, and it is my fondest hope that you will compose many more thought-provoking video essays in times to come.)
Your most mercurial and noise-adverse fan,
@Sudoburger ❇️✍️
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Nice Bible paragraph you wrote
1 likeEmplemon tried to mix commentary with YTPs and that's not that good
My man Dan Olson just committed a cringe.
1 likeYou know why you’re here
2 likesWhy is this in something’s wrong tier
3 likesLate comment but I just think you got fixated a little too much on Dan's appearance
1 likeIts funny when you realize people on mobile youtube can't see a bar but only the numbers
0 likes"creators are better served by having a circle of people they trust provide direct, meaningful feedback."
4 likes-Dan Olsen
Or to put it another way
"creators are served by having a circle of yesman tell them how they're doing."
You know what needs to happen now? IF they really do remove dislikes from all videos, then on a video we'd normally dislike, we need to go to the comments and put a simple "Dislike". No reason, no explanation. Just do what we normally would, just with a word than a button click. I know I'm going to do it.
RIP dislikes
3 likesRIP Dislikes.
2 likesPeople should say ratio in the comment section if yt disable dislike
3 likesThey need to remove comments 100%%
0 likes6:15 on one video this happened to me
1 likeOH GOD OH FUCK HERE WE ARE
2 likesFucking knew it goddamnit youtube
1 likeWe're screwed
1 likeThe end is here
2 likesUpdate: it happened. Your opinion no longer matters.
0 likesYou know why you're here
1 likeI will express my dislike with a swift comment
0 likesRIP
5 likesThe BTD soundtrack... bliss
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It doooo
1 likeY'know this video was fine and dandy until you had to go and say that racism is bad.
2 likesAnd for that reason, I pressed dislike.
Markiplier has been someone I have noticed to have a really good like to dislike ratio over the years.
5 likesI think the dislike mob hit this video
0 likesI think the most important aspect of the dislike video for me is the use of telling the algorithm to not suggest me something. eg if i watch a little bit of a jake paul video to see whats going on, i'll dislike so it doesn't show up on my homepage
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You can just remove the video from your Watch History. It has the same effect.
0 likesI could see why people would go with that though. Easier and faster.
@Godzilla 123 I am doing both with hopes the creator would only receive a free dislike from me and not a view
0 likes@Jhejh poT Smart man
0 likesWe also need dislikes to keep neutral responses like/dislike ratio neutral.
11 likeswhatever you have to tell yourself buddy...
1 like"looks like the dislike mob here is just discriminating against Canadians."
41 likesAs they should! I'm Canadian and think we should be discriminated against!
Having dislikes (and likes too) is a ESSENTIAL thing and here I is why:
7 likesThere is a voting system called approval system, a specific version of it you say yes to the candidates you think should win/are good and if you dont rate with a yes/like/good/thumb up its assumed you dont want to like it.
When you have tons of candidates (like youtube, where you nave an extreme amount of videos) and can't know everyone, this specific form of approval system become biased towards famous stuff.
Imagine a video has a quality of 20% (this means that 20% of each person that view the video will like it) and 10 million views, this video will have 2000000 likes. Now imagine a less famous video with 80% quality and 100000 views, this new video will have 80000 likes. Thats 250 times less likes while the quality was 4x times bigger.
This happens because the system (when looking only at likes) counts not knowing the video exist and liking it (if you viewed it) as hating it (since it wont get a like), a solution to fix is to look at the ratio of likes. With all this fame/views, if the video has a low quality with all those likes because of extra views, those extra views will also bring the haters and so the dislikes.
Not only dislikes shouldnt be removed, but what youtube should do is instead of showing the amount of likes and the amount of dislikes, it should show the formula LikesToDislikeRatio= 100 *( Likes /(Likes+Dislikes)) to the users (maybe only showing separated likes and dislikes to the owner of the channel), with the sum of likes+dislikes when you put the mouse over the likes to dislike ratio score (to avoid videos with 5 likes and 0 dislikes and so a score of 100, being seeing as a awesome score). PS: it would require at least like or dislike to the score to show, to avoid division by zero.
But there is more, they said they reduced 5 stars to just like and dislike, because most people used only 1 and 5 stars, by their logic they hould have changed it to the same thing but with just 2 gradings instead of 5, yet they separated the likes and dislikes as separated thing, instead of making the average like before. I mean no one before counted the amount of 4 stars at a video and said "wow look at this amount of 4 stars".... what mattered was the average score. So (unsurprisinly) they didnt even followed the idea behind the thing they said they were going to do.
Anyway, as I said this problem happens when you have approval system and you can't dislike/thumb down something. It doenst affect only youtube likes, but also affect other things like:
-Views because its impossible to unview a video so not viewing a video and liking it counts as a hate. This case is even worse, unlike with likes only situation, viewing some video and hating it counts as liking it as it would get a view anyway, unlike with the likes only situation.
-Last.fm plays, because you can't say you hate some song just not play it and so if you would love to listen to song X but not know it exist, it count as you hating it.
-Using the amount of people that brought product X as a way to gauge quality, many people buy justin bieber albums and because of it he goes to the billboard charts, but his like to dislike ratio is pretty low, with tons of people hating him, this happens because the thing is biased towards famous artists since you can't unbuy some album.
4:58 bloons td soundtrack niceee
0 likesDislike just because I can (at the moment)
1 likeRip dislikes
2 likescan i dislike this to support the movement
1 likeNo no no! This wasn't supposed to happen. God damn it.
10 likesdisliked the vid to prove your point
1 like19:33 I thought I forgot that
0 likesWelcome back everyone
2 likesThe dislike button is a way for creators to find ways to improve (in other words, constructive criticism)
3 likesAussies see dislikes as likes
1 likeFUCK HE PREDICTED THIS SHIT
27 likesIt happened today
3 likesEmpLemon, I'm already stopping at 7:14 to just that you have pretty interesting taste in music. I'd never thought that Bloons Tower Defense (4?/5?) had great music. Good job dude.
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this and Ice Climber's music, EmpLemon likes some classic games, refined taste indeed
1 likeI believe this was from BTD5.
0 likesEveryone who disliked Youtube Rewind: HOLD UP THERE BUCKEROO
249 likesWe need to create a "national dislike day" to tell people that dislikes matter.
4 likesayyy welcome back everyone!
2 likesIm scared dislikes will be disabled
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Your fear was well founded.
1 likeUnfortunately, it seems someone at YouTube didn’t watch this video.
24 likesJust look at the difference in Justin Bieber's song "Baby" and "Pray". Great example
0 likesi heard btd 6 music in the background VERY faintly
0 likesWhy this video has over 2K dislikes
369 likes100% - Because people love dislikes
0% - Other
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I honestly expected more with a video from emp talking about dislikes.
7 likesI actually disagreed with some things he said.
3 likesI didn't like really like how he made fun of social justice either, its just a bit of a childish interpretation really
1 like@PON PON PATA PON but is that really true, are those statements actual or just fabricated exagerations from thunderfoot. I would like you to source all the information you suggested.
1 like@PON PON PATA PON Social justice isn't cancer. Social justice is about equal rights for all people.
1 like@Sans Spiritus But there are the vocal minority, and I mean VOCAL, that taint the reputation of those seeking actual social justice. In developed nations like the UK, US, etc., many people, including myself believe the anti discrimination approach has (for some people) gone in the direction of anti-freedom of speech. What should happen, in my opinion, is for everyone to meet a middle ground; not everyone wanting equality are angry feminists, but at the same time, there definitely is a significant backlash (for lack of a better word) against the "majority," meaning the "cis-white males" demographic for example that especially more recently, has been occurring.
1 like@Mass Debator Thank you.
0 likesI was with him up until he started vaguely defending Trump. Kinda pulled me out of the video. Does prove one thing, though: he was right about getting a higher dislike ratio if you discuss politics in your vid.
1 like@Juh Yes, some groups have small amounts of radicalism in them. However continually attacking them by using your sharp vocabulary against them doesn't help anyone at all. We all need to stop fighting and work to solve the current problems in society. The right needs to realise what SJW's are actually trying to do instead of thinking of them as misadraists which a lot of them are not. The left needs to realise that calling the right "facist" "racist" "sexist" isn't going to help anybody at all, and if they are to call someone one of these words than they should justify and reason instead of hitting and running. The right will only understand the left's problems if the left calms down which is suprisingly starting to happen on small parts on youtube with many leftist channels oppening up to explain what is going on.
0 likes@quantum. We got 2 different views of an SJW, because I dknt believe every single leftist is like this, but I do know there are a lot of radicals here and they do fit the description. I dont know why they concentrated in portland, but it's unfortunate for us. I dont got anything against 'real SJWs', although I wouldn't call them an SJW since around here thats an insult.
4 likes@GreedyRadish when did he do that?
0 likes@Garfield the Cat "random points" really? The video is about removing dislikes.
0 likes"Childish and politically charged insults" which one exactly?
Also the difference between "looks like..." and "you are..."
"You're one of those..." no im not. I find it nonsensical that your reasoning for disliking the vid includes him "using a dead meme".
"Fucking normies" wasnt directed at you but ok
Browsing 4chan doesnt qualify you for deciding who is a tryhard.
Also i mentioned trump because there was some other guy in the comments saying he agreed until emp "defended" trump. Not unusual that a lot of them do that.
I didnt call you a "trump hater".
Here after they are gone
1 likeFun fact: Youtube's going to disable dislikes on ALL videos. Thanks, Dan. And Disney. And CNN. And Jimmy Kimmel. And basically all other big corporations, including YouTube themselves.
11 likesTo put it shortly: Try imagining YouTube without a system to make your feedback/backlash known to creators, or no rating system at all in general.
58 likesAre we starting to value it yet?, I know I am. EDIT: Exactly why I would LOVE more critical viewpoints/opinions on my stuff than good, sugarcoated comments :3
😁Like your Video
2 likesIf you’re being disliked, there’s a reason why.
6 likesMan imagine how funny it would be if YouTube decided to remove dislikes
12 likeswould be really funny
and not at all a terrible idea
and not something they now are doing
It's happening
3 likeswhy does this video have dislikes? do you not like dislikes? then dont dislike lmao
5 likesHe warned us
15 likesIt seems like they're rolling it out today oct 10, 2021.
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You mean November
1 likeDislike gets removed
55 likesHmm...
Turns phone upside down and likes the video
H A C K E R M A N
Aaand now the dislike button has gone black instead of blue. Numb and neutral. Emplemon was right. They are neutering the like-dislike bar.
0 likesI swear Emp is going to relapse into making YTP one of these days.
3 likes19:34 WHAT THE FUCK!
1 like5:58 uh oh.....
2 likesI think this is mostly a petty attempt at compensating for the Youtube Rewind dislikes
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Well you and I don't know for sure, yes the evidance links up but the thing no one knows what goes on behind the windows of youtube's headquaters so we can only leave this idea as a theory.
0 likesWelp, this became very relevant now that they are actively trying to disable dislikes shown on videos...
5 likesAnd it happened
2 likesIf YouTube gets rid of dislikes, then we can't get videos like Neutral response.
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actually i think there should be 3 buttons. one for likes, one for dislikes, and one for a 50/50 opinion. i think itd be better tbh.
7 likes@tristan the oofer 2 the neutral option is pretty pointless honestly.
0 likesIt would carry the same weight as a person who didn't liked or disliked the video
@Random Serbian Guy k
0 likesDid the persons who disliked this video (about dislikes) did so, not because they really disliked this video, but because just for the opportunity to do so?
5 likesdisliking for the algorithm
1 likeThis aged fantastically.
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not really
0 likes@Michael Vogel now it has
5 likes@Michael Vogel dude i wish
0 likesHERE WE GO, BABY
5 likesIH just surprise me there
2 likeshey, 5:40 i think this video is very contrevertial
2 likesAnd we're back at it again
26 likesHe predicted it now YouTube legit wants to limit the visibility of dislikes
HE WAS RIGHT. LIKES AREN'T EVEN BLUE ANYMORE
7 likesEasy solution, make it mandatory to watch enough of the video to dislike it, or like it for that matter.
3 likesEmplemon literally predicted it, the prophecy is true.
71 likesIt's like a Time Traveler warning people that this event will happen.
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except it didn't
1 like@Michael Vogel and thankfully, it didn't.
2 likes@Michael Vogel bit the fact that it almost happened is scary
0 likes@AkiraAndrew and then, it did
1 likeHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1 likeMy top ten list:
10 likes1. Among Us when youre the imposter
2. playing the piano and accidentally composing something nice
3. blue cheese in a double beef burger
4. orange triangles, theyre just neat
5. the perfect cell OST
6. watching golf when eating fancy food
7. dancing when a football team I dont like loses
8. bowling but throwing the ball instread of rolling it
9. watching tv on a sunday morning with a glas of milk and cookies
10. the noise of a fan at night
Not allowed to dislike shit anymore :(
0 likes2021 @youtube
4 likes10,000 people hate dislikes
1 likeCoindidence? I think not so democratic.
0 likesim too damn lazy to save videos into watch lists i made for them. i wish there was a little button that would automatically save anything you enjoyed into an accessible list so you can rewatch those videos.
10 likesWOW, LIKES DO THAT. so when i give a video a like, that doesn't mean i liked it, it means i liked it enough to watch it again.
oh wow.
0 likesprophet.
2 likeswhats goin on big guy
0 likesHAHAHAHAHAH brasil
0 likesBefore the video I didn't really have a stance but you've convinced me to want to keep dislikes.
38 likes#likedislikes
3 likesOh oh how relevant
0 likesHow relevant are you again?
0 likesYes
emp, 2 years ahead
3 likesYou knew it was coming, no one should be surprised....
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Here after YouTubes Tweet :(
1 likeIt was only a matter of when.
2 likes@Shaun well, apparently not yet lol
0 likesAnd today...
1 likePeople shouldn't be allowed to rate videos at all until they've watched enough of it
2 likesSadness
0 likesNot super democratic
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Why do people have to drag politics into everything?
0 likesOh man...
0 likesTa porra menor apareceu até comentário brasileiro nesse vídeo e aquele vídeo da mulher besta lá.
0 likesDamn
1 likeOh damn
0 likesIf they remove the dislike count, I'm disliking every video I watch
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@metacretin also not a bad idea
0 likesAnd they removed dislike.
0 likesWell… uh… whoops
0 likesEmpLemon feels like a big brother sometimes. Giving you hard to swallow pills and telling you to man up on the internet.
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So true
1 likeThe only big instance of a dislike mob I can remember is when Leafy would target small creators and so would his fans on 2 separate occasions. But that’s not even a dislike mob. That was a case of targeted cyber bullying and public harassment that spiraled out of control, which is even worse than a dislike mob
1 likeEvery video I watch, I automatically like it. If I end up not liking it, I'll go back at the end and dislike it.
2 likesYouTube has been removing features instead of innovating them for years at this point, this platform is falling apart
2 likesEmp: I made the dislikes go away by improving my content.
1 likeEmp 5 seconds later: Blasts my entire neighbourhood with a ytpoop
Crazy how youtube, a site that's been popular since 2006, is desperately trying to imitate Tik Tok
2 likesit's funny that this video has quite a lot of dislikes, because most of them were probably from the people who don't like them
2 likesPeople disliking the post because they don't like dislikes is the most ironic thing I've seen on the planet
5 likesI feel the rating tier list should only apply when a video gets enough likes/dislikes
0 likesI very highly doubt anyone’s going to see this, also, I’m not a professional, I’m not super smart, but I can see a possible reason for disabling dislikes, but it wouldn’t be the sort of reason YouTube would remove them. I think that having both likes and dislikes can get you stuck in a bit of a content loop, making content specifically to please a crowd, which causes YouTube to recommend your content more, and if you decide to make your income off of YouTube, then, at least from the way I see it, you’d need to keep making similar content just to please the algorithm, and keep your source of income. Basically what I’m arguing (I’m bad at trying to get my thoughts out coherently, so sorry about that) is that the whole system with likes and dislikes, and the whole of YouTube as a whole isn’t really a great thing. So teah, that was me trying to explain my views relatively incoherently, thanks for reading, happy to try elaborate on anything.
3 likesI impulse dislike sometimes. I can like (and/or agree with) the whole video, but if there's just a single moment that's too annoying or stupid I'll just go for that button. For example, in some of you videos the audio levels can be very fluctuating and if there's a loud sound effect all of a sudden (especially meme like volumes where it gets distorted), that's almost a guaranteed dislike from me :x Also if people take too long with their intro stuff and advertising their podcast that has already been cancelled two months ago or something like that
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I feel like this is the sort of stuff that lets people say dislikes aren't useful, because disliking a whole video for one mistake or minor infraction is just pointless imo. Use the comments for that.
1 like@Mr. Moon Yeah, you make a good point. I try to not do it, the commenting alternative is better
0 likesit's funny that according to the video's own metrics, it's a controversial video
2 likesbut i fully agree with what is being said
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except the part about bolsonaro, i hate that guy
0 likesI think people are disliking because it’s the topic of the video and not because they disagree.
1 likeas a person who dislikes a ton of videos, I can say the reason I think its absolutely necessary to have a dislike button is, when someone dislikes a video, that's them telling the algorithm "yo, don't suggest content like this to me, I don't like stuff like this", which allows me to clear my recommended from a lot of the garbage content youtube force recommends down my throat.
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there's also an option which says "Not interested" in the three dots menu, works too
1 likeThey did it. This new feature will leave a sour taste in my mouth
3 likesI think what a ton of people get wrong is that the dislikes themselves don’t affect a video’s performance, but rather the amount of them compared to likes.
3 likesI’ve never seen a video with a ratio less than 50% ever show up in my recommended feed.
As of 26/08/2021, the YouTube dislike bar doesn't even have blue anymore. Just a filled in thumb and a not filled in thumb.
2 likesAs of 29/11/2021, Youtube dislikes are no longer public. I expect this to get a disgusting amount of backlash and be restored in like a week or two.
I always thought it was a big mistake for people to Dislike a video based on disagreeing with the view presented.
0 likesYou should be judging whether the video:
1. Lives up to what the title advertises.
2. Is a good quality video for the people who are interested in that video title.
Because you’re performing the function of rating videos for the benefit of future potential viewers. Disliking a video that delivers on its title and is well produced, is utterly pointless if not counterproductive.
I am someone who obsessively, ALWAYS rates EVERYTHING. I Like or Dislike almost every comment I read. I always vote on websites with article ratings. I’m the guy who goes down an Instagram post and Likes every comment I agree with, just because. I almost NEVER miss rating a YouTube video, partly because of my duty/obligation to future viewers, but also as a “breadcrumb” to remind myself at a future date that I’ve seen the video before.
Nevertheless, I RARELY ever dislike any videos!! Only if the title is an utter bullshit LIE to deceive viewers into clicking, where they’ll all be subsequently disappointed, or if a video is somebody else’s and they’re just reuploading another copy of it, but their version is worse than the original or worse than other copies. Because obviously nobody wants to watch a shit version of a great video.
Or if a video does something egregiously disrespectful to the viewer like purposely blasting loud noises during a segment of whispering as some kind of juvenile prank.
Otherwise 99% of the time, I either Like, or don’t rate the video if it’s just something I’m not interested in, because I neither want to punish nor reward the creator.
YouTube rewind 2021: the most disliked video ever
1 likeYoutube: removed the dislike button, 16 unskippable ads
So how the hell are we supposed to gauge if a video is worth our time or not now?
3 likesComing back to this video hits different now that YouTube actually removed the ability to see dislikes or at least on Mobile anyways
1 likeI saw the dislikes on this video and assumed I'd get to write a funny comment about the dislike mob. Instead I was greeted with someone who has thought about this enough to where there so sick of it and can't make the argument without making the people he's trying to convince mad. Like gay people who've gotten so sick of having to justify their existence to people that they just make fun of them and leave (somebody advise me on how to rephrase that nicer, because I do mean it in a nice way)
1 likeI always thought hitting like would tell their recommender to give me more like this and dislike would say to knock that shit off. How is Youtube going to know what I like and what I don't now?
0 likes3:48 User criticism can be supplemented by the comment section, making dislikes redundant. - If that is indeed their claim, not only is it preposterous, but it's disingenuously preposterous because they know better than to make that claim. However, is that really what they claimed?
1 likeThis video aged like fine wine 👍
2 likesif youtube keeps track of retention time, to avoid dislike mobs from clicking dislikr without seeing the video they could just only count the likes/dislikes of users who have more than 50% retention time? problem solved??
1 likeI’m starting to notice that YouTube are removing creep catcher channels. There is something going on indefinitely
0 likesI didn't notice I must have seen this video before because It's got a comment from 11 months ago
2 likesI still stand by the dislike button. Only someone who doesn't want to know when others don't like them don't want the dislike button
People that disliked this video talking about keeping dislikes are living in a paradox
0 likesI think you should have to watch a majority of the video to be able to rate it
2 likesHumans should have the right to dislike something. YouTube is becoming less You.
3 likesGlad to know I can make a racist YouTube short and YouTube will hide all the dislikes in the Short format.
2 likesHoly shit they actually removed it
6 likesThe prediction has come exactly into fruition
2 likesLooking a these comments, 3 months later and there's still dislikes, lol. I've heard they've removed them from a very minimal amount of videos, but every video I've been watching lately has dislikes.
3 likesY'know, if the like/dislike bar resembles a cigarette, that's how you know it's a good video.
0 likesif they fully remove dislikes, we should just comment "dislike" on videos.
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Well this aged well
0 likesFun fact: this video is in the controversial tier
2 likesThe person advocating for disabling dislikes is a breadtuber. Shocking.
2 likes10:50 Well oftentimes it is the alt right. Nutty socially conservative videos don't get downvoted anywhere near as much as nutty socially liberal videos. Almost any time a new video is uploaded containing the phrase alt right (and the alt right didn't make the video or the word hate) then the dislikes will pile up fast.
1 like15:29 See? Bolsonaro is a rightwing populist and that's the video that got the highest ratio of dislikes.
if anything, dislikes make them have more views.
3 likesI was sitting here, wondering why I don't find content like this in the Japanese YouTube space than I realized it's because this is primarily a world issue, Japan is the most free out of all the Asian countries whenever you compare themselves to the Chinese government and north Korea specifically.
1 likeThough perhaps it's because that's not popular to express such a thing within the current cultural climate Japan is in these current years. I'm only an American, I cannot say anything culturally significant about another country that I don't even live in, it's not the citizens I dislike, it's the government that I disagree with purely. That's all I can provide as someone foreign to Asian cultures.
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Uhhh I think this is the wrong vid
0 likes@Someone That isn ́t funny i intentionally wrote that here
0 likes@shotakonkin書多恨キン oh
0 likesNice job, honestly I thought mediums were bullshit.
0 likesI love how the people who disagree with this DISLIKED the video. (IK not all people disliked it because they disagreed with the message or content, but a good amount likely did)
0 likesYouTube doesn’t care they just don’t want to see the negative reaction to the rewinds
0 likesinugami korone's videos only have 99.96% likes. this is absolutely unacceptable.
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It's easy to misclick with missing yubi
2 likesthey're just mad about them having the most disliked video on their own platform. (edit: just saw you made this point in the video lmao)
2 likesanyways, whats even the point of dislike button on comments? it does nothing but become blue when clicked
Dislikes are good, look at what happened to Twitter because they have no dislike
3 likesJust saying this is the first video in months I've viewed on my phone that's actually shown the dislike amount
0 likesI agree but I somehow feel like I should dislike this video
1 likeOH SHIT EMP YOU"RE AY 87.9% THAT's CONTROVERSIAL TIER!!!
2 likesI think YouTube wants everyone to become yes men
1 likeThe latest iPhone update for YouTube has removed them.
1 likeDONT UPDATE IT.
In YouTube shorts, the public dislikes are already hidden.
3 likesWow! The Youtube like and dislike function is binary? If only we had more options! Like, for example, what if we had five? Nah, that's crazy, Youtube has and always will have 2 or less options. Always. All of the time.
0 likesYoutube dislikes are not a measure of objective quality. Youtube Rewind 2018 was horribly disliked and probably cost them millions. in fact, do you think that contributed to them thinking dislikes are bad? Because they were used against them?
1 likeif you get rid of dislikes we’d have the system of twitter: a 14 year old boy commenting “ratio” under the video
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dang you said that in the 18th minute. eh my comment still contributes something
1 likeYouTube dislikes is the reason I still have good mental arithmetics
0 likesIf likes are removed, I won't be able to instantly dislike a video when the uploader tells me to like and subscribe
0 likesViewing a video may make you look at a ad first, so the creator gets a little bit of money. And commenting something like "i don't like this video because of uga bunga" will literally just make the video more popular and you'll probably get harrassed
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Also a example of this is: Not liking a broom you bought, and going out in the streets like " HEY! THIS BROOM HELPED ME CLEAN MY ENTIRE HOUSE BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE IT, GET IT NOW!" And somehow making people be interested
0 likesIf I support his points should I dislike it?
2 likesIf dislikes get removed I wonder what will happen to neutral response
1 likebring back stars and maybe the "binary system" wont exist :D
1 likeIm one of the few now that has dislikes hidden, doomsday ahead!
1 likeRest in peace neutral response...
love the super smash bros music in the back 🔥
1 like11:30 That right ,, WE dont Want Sebs .. we want utubers!
1 likeYep, dislikes are going away slowly
1 likeMy most disliked video is 20-50 when I predicted that Steve would be in smash instead of Banjo. At this point, I just think it was funny.
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You got to be wrong and right at the same time.
0 likes@Gamer's Holy Army Yeah. I even anticipated the wave of negativity and made an alternate video about why Banjo was more likely. Didn't matter lol
0 likesIf Youtube removes dislikes expect to see grifters in the comment sections going “Like this comment if you hate the OP!”
0 likesSame shit that happens on Twitter
“Ratio”, “RT if you hate X”, “Like for X, RT for Y”
It won’t get rid of dislikes, it’ll just create a new form of fishing for likes
ahahahahahahahahaha hey uh youtube’s new Shorts feature, tailored towards phones and looks like tiktok, does not show dislike counts. Also, this Stories feature which i know fairly nothing about, does not actually let you dislike.
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Uh oh! They presented me with a little survey thing: "What do you dislike most about comments on YouTube?" They permit me to answer in 6 ways:
2 likesComments lack two-way discussion
Comments are repetitive
Too many rude or hateful comments
People who comment are not credible
Comments are not informative
Other
there is no option to say I like comments.
I have photo evidence of these if you have a discord server
2 likesI disliked, not because i didn't like the video, i loved the video, but to share my l o v e.
1 likeIs this a case of:
0 likesit's not me that is wrong.
It's you that is wrong, bc I always have to be right and can't take criticism from anyone else about what I'm doing.
?
Usually, if a video has likes and dislikes disabled, I leave a dislike just because lol.
0 likesThey did it. Rip
4 likesNext they gonna hide subscriber counts to the youtuber themself.
1 likedisliking this video to exercise my right
4 likesand now I have lived in the apocolypse
2 likesman, i like dan olson's content too.
0 likesi wasnt around back then. but man would the star system really fix youtube.
0 likesLove it
0 likesur now just getting to number 1 ,, 13:42 mins into the video ...
1 like( lol jk ) i love this channel u the man Bra .
On an older channel of mine, I actually did disable likes and dislikes because of mass dislike trolls. It happened every time I uploaded. It was odd.
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Dislikes still further video growth. Who cares if you get dislikes, it helps you way more than it hurts you.
0 likesIm afraid that, with the title like that, people will click just to dislike because "haha funny" and actually make this video/ opinion seem controversial.
1 likethey should make it so the comment section has 3/4 sections, people who liked, people who disliked, regular, and maybe people who did neither
0 likes25:45 20k hours in the game and not even typing in the right place
0 likesso this video is disputed tier huh
2 likesWow, this was a controversial video
1 likecorporate overlords want to get rid of the dislike button because it's used against corporate overlords??
0 likesthat makes NO sense
Disliked to show how much I enjoyed the video!
0 likesIt's basically when removing dislikes is like Lenin the all in favor j.k his only fans the majority which is our minority while the minority is the majority part in russian revolution oversimplified.
0 likesoh yea....it's starting baby! I called this when I first saw his wavedash and boy was I correct. Now the only thing left is for kazuya to conquer smash ultimate and destroy it's roster balance and it will be brawl and smash 4 all over again baby. I can't wait
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How do you wind up this lost on the internet?
0 likesDan Olsen: Withholding Ideas
0 likesbring back the 5-star system.
0 likesI have no idea why this video is disliked by me.... I guess I accidentally hit it.
0 likes2:12 they have been doing this with tons of videos that talk about trump or involve Trump. It’s so fucked
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Oh and Biden videos too
0 likesThis comment section has to be ballanced soooo
1 likeI hate your content. Balanced as all things should be…..
disliking this video just for the hell of it. i rarely dislike things lol.
0 likesHelps get rid of scams
0 likesif dislikes are removed for being too controversial. Then wouldn't likes too be controvertial?
2 likesMore relevant than ever
1 likeAny person who makes kids videos must be completely irrational!
0 likes10k dislikes, how interesting lol
0 likesRemoving dislikes is just a horrible idea. If a video has a huge amount of dislikes it tells the viewer "hey, somethings wrong here" ever came across those videos that claim to know how to hack a game but are actually just scams? Those always had a ton of dislikes, that's something that could very easily save the viewer from getting scammed.
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Yes you right but if only the harambes working in youtube understands it.
0 likesI’m leaving a comment on the videos I watch and this is a copy paste to make it easier for myself
1 likewell it's 2021 and dislikes are still here
0 likesI've had a 12% rating on a video of my cat because some kid made a dislike mob on the video. I mean they shared the link with their friends and told them to dislike the video. I've since unlisted the video.
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That's kinda funny tho, also dislikes still further the channels growth.
1 like3:00 8:56 10:15 11:00 11:42 14:04 14:30 15:23 15:45 16:15 16:34 17:27 18:08 19:38 20:40 20:50 22:10 23:30 24:00 25:20
0 likesDislikes are also a veto to scams
2 likesDon't remove dislikes!
1 likeBRING BACK STAR RATINGS
0 likes“Dislikes this video”
1 likeFunny how is just showed up in my recommended, besides, watched this vid at launch :D
0 likesDislikes are so helpful for guides. If it has more dislikes than likes, it sucks and I’ll watch a different guide.
3 likesWhat would the famous logan Paul forest video be without dislikes
0 likesHey Emp, should I dislike the vid, just to spread how importancy of Dislikes
0 likeslol that b4nny clip at the end
0 likesHmm. Yes. This important thing is made of important thing
1 likeActually would you a video on courage the cowardly dog?
0 likesI’m gonna dislike this to meme out
0 likesAaaaand it's gone.
4 likesand then theres pewdiepies balanced video
0 likesYou have some good takes but damn if there aren’t some thicc political undertones
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Joe Biden, wake up. 9/11. Today same day, what happened 2001.
3 likes@MountainDrew 22 very epic
0 likesyea :/ id say its the one thing i dont like from this channel
0 likesYouTube app has disabled dislike visibility 😐
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@Blaze404 what
0 likesStrange, it hasn't happened to me.
0 likesOn this video I think they added dislikes
1 likehe LITERALLY looks like xi
0 likesCan I both like and dislike this video?
0 likesis that mmx?
0 likesnice pick
I disliked for fun lol
2 likeslove the btd music
1 likeDislike is a usefull feedback tool tho.
2 likesI disliked this video because it is important but i likrd the video honestly
0 likesI liked your video but since it benefits you, I have decided to dislike
0 likesI love it that you used the voice of that Chills guy for your countdown. Made me laugh. God that guy has the worst voice I've ever heard.
1 likeThis video has aged so badly
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What no it aged good
6 likesHow you make no sense
6 likescan't wait till "ratio" becomes popular after youtube removes the dislike button...
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how? Comments can be deleted.
0 likesThey actually did it. Fuck.
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They actually did it. Again. Fuck.
0 likesI love the 10k dislikes
0 likesno, whats binary is having it governed by a single togglable button
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i disliked the video because i agree with the message its trying to send
0 likesTHE DISLIKE IS GONE. D:<
1 likeI was kinda weirded out recently cause while i got my original perception of who Dan Olson was from you..... I then saw Dan in some of Hbomberguy's video insulting even worse people and then I realized that Despite Dan's feelings towards Dislikes (most likely brought on from actual right wing hate mobs hounding him) he's still a better youtuber than you let on to be
0 likesI wouldn’t mind if it distinguished between likes and dislikes by subscribers and non-subscribers on every video.
0 likesThalashy, every time man..
0 likesThe irony of someone disliking this video because the disagree
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"I disagree with the idea that we need dislikes, and to show this I'm going to dislike this video"
1 likePOV: You’re here after the announcement.
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yeah
1 likeye
1 likeYep
0 likesWe have returned.
1 likeI kinda wanna dislike this video. Just because.
0 likes>27 MINUTES VIDEO
133 likes>FROM MY FAVORITE YOUTUBE POOPER
>POPCORN HAS BEEN ADQUIRED
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I'll take YouTube poop over video essays anyday
1 like@cannon this is an inferior opinion
3 likes@polus134not yet
1 like@Faboolean I'll take something funny I can come back to whenever I want over seasonal YouTube drama that might not even be relevant later.
0 likesTakes more talent to make a YouTube poop too, anyone with a mic and something to complain about can make a video essay
no dislikes on reels
1 likeBro I'm high as fuck right now. I listen to a lot of Tim Pool and you made me question reality when you used those clips.
95 likesAlso, great video. You brought up a lot of good points that I never thought about.
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Being high has so much to do with that lol
3 likesTim pool was great on jre and I subbed to his YT channel because of that. However, I found his videos to be less about helping viewers understand issues in a nonbiased format and more about feeding the machine of outrage culture to exploit views. Maybe I find hyperfocused political commentary tedious as a whole...
2 likesi disliked, thank me later :)
0 likes8:06 I don’t entirely agree with this because having to adjust your opinion to the audience because of dislikes isn’t a good thing. However I do agree they’re needed if it’s an opinion that causes harm to people, or the video is just outright vile. ex: The Logan Paul forest video. It had a real half-assed anti suicide speech.
1 likeWith YouTube Rewind 2019, let's all break 2018's record.
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@Nick Gurr Sorry, didnt notice xd
0 likesnow that dislikes will be removed, people will probably just report spam instead :))
1 likethey removed the dislikes on a few of my videos, and removed comments. based ass shit
0 likesYou want to get rid of dislikes... okay you can do that no go right a head, then you'll have to get rid of likes too, cant have one with out the other. You cant jusy have it good all the time, got to have bad too. Top of all that people will just say "dislike" in the comments, or worse. I get people do things like disliking something before they see it or try it which i have done, but thats our right to do that.
0 likes11:44 you must be high to think that!
0 likes21:33 green house big lion
1 likeYour script writing feels like it's improving a lot, points feel a lot more concise and flow nicely. Keep improving, Emp.
16 likes12:55 😭😂😂
1 likeNononononono. We need to see the ratio
0 likessoo this is contoversal video?
1 likei could be the 9.7k'th disslike. but i dont want to disslike this video
1 likeAll the dislikes on this video are people that are ironically disliking it
26 likesWell YouTube is actually trying to do this now so it's probably going to become a feature
21 likesWhy cant i see dislikes?
0 likesI don't know if it's just me but I sometimes use the like button solely for bookmarking/saving purposes. So this way it's easier to find the video if I have to search for it.
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Same here,it's actually pretty useful for that purpose. Doesn't make dislikes any less important,though.
13 likesSame. I usually use the like button for videos that I may want to come back to later, and rarely dislike videos unless they’re “objectively” bad.
7 likesSame. My liked videos list is just a song playlist. Can't be bothered making a proper actual playlist
1 likeThat's honestly the whole reason why i use the like button (as well as why i rarely leave likes), since YouTube completely removed the "Add to Favourites" feature.
4 likes@Hermanni Theres still a add to favourites feature.
1 likeAll YouTube playlists have a 5k limit, how can you possibly come back to the older videos conveniently when they're past the limit? It sucks!
0 likesI liked OP's comment, btw, I don't want to get strawmanned.
Why not just use the "watch later" feature for this?
0 likes@Rkplblenny
0 likesIs that a reply to me or to OP?
@Gelatinocyte it was aimed at OP, but I also find it odd that so many commenters don't seem to know or care about the "watch later" feature. I use it all the time and just use the "like" button for videos I actually like so the algorithm feeds me better suggestions.
0 likesI tend to use the watch later playlist to bookmark interesting videos I like.
0 likesAmateur Professional same
0 likesWatch later is my save forever playlist. And youtube occasionally shoves watch later in your face, so I exploit it for comfort memories - how convenient.
2 likesI agree with the video but i had to dislike it😂
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why
3 likesWhy
3 likesI did my duty and pressed dislike because I approve of your message. 4/5 stars
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remembers when youtube had 5star ratings
39 likes1un4cy they should put that in if they are going to remove dislike
8 likesi disliked this comment :)
4 likesdat boi TOO LATE I ALREADY LIKED MY REPLAY YOU INCOMPETENT STRATEGIST
7 likesI with you fellow YouTuber your comment will be disliked
1 likeyou clearly didnt watch the video then or you dididnt pay attention
0 likesYes. That's what it was.@skunk
1 like@Schrödinger's Pavlov facepalm
0 likesThey should just replace 👎 with this 🖕 lol I mean it makes more sense
1 like🤣bloons music
2 likesIf the likes and dislikes are 50/50
72 likesyou have found that one Futurama clip.
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JoCyanide Neutral Respons
5 likesWho ever dislikes this video is a hypocrite
7 likesI've personally never used the dislike button, however, I realize what their significance is. The Ghstbusters 2016 trailer would look very different without it
8 likeshe dont miss!
15 likesDr Emplemon: How I learned to stop fearing and love the dislike
25 likesTbh with topics like gamergate, likes/dislikes are completely useless. People hit dislike without even watching the video. That's why the option to disable likes/dislikes is good on some videos.
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"stifle public discourse because some people dislike something without knowing about it"
0 likesNo. No video should have dislikes disabled automatically. If people want to disable like/dislike manually, then fine. those people are cowards.
I hate gamergate too but fucking no. The people that hit dislike without thinking don't need to be regulated against, people that don't like dislike mobs can turn off ratings, but dislikes are important to fight off shit like scams, malicious "tutorials", and dumbass capitalist corporate decisions, getting rid of dislikes because of dislike mobs does bad, and doesn't do ANY good, targeted hate mobs will find other ways to attack creators, they won't just give up.
0 likesYoutube wants to get rid of dislikes so that their rewinds can look "good."
4 likesThis has hore dislikes than the video about trump and liberals
0 likesYouTube makes a video, everyone hates it. It becomes the most hated video on YouTube. YouTube removes dislike button. PROBLEM SOLVED
53 likesP.S. wow, thanks for the likes!
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Kostja Brine "DAT OTTAH DU ET"
1 likeI'm a leftist, and to an extent a lot of the ideas in the rewind are rather fabricated, yes I support diversity(and other forms of social justice), what I don't support is large corporations including diversity(and social justice) for the only purpose of improving brand image. So my outlook: Fuck the corporations, Support social justice.
0 likesCame back here because the like/dislike bar is now only a black/white that's horrible on the eyes.
2 likesGran turismo music at 20:00
0 likesHoly shit it finally happened
9 likesI disliked this video back then and I agree. Youtube is going apeshit again.
6 likesHAHAHA
2 likesDislikes removed... Downward spiral.
0 likesThis is gonna be so ironic when we come back to this and the dislikes are gone
11 likesOr better yet, use the same star system as old YouTube and Newgrounds, except the ladder has a 0th star option.
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#BlamTheRewind
5 likesYeah, and have negative stars, too.
3 likes@Bio-error 1d10t: User unable to create name. I mean, technically the 0th star is just a shattered star, so you could theoretically count it as a negative.
3 likes@MiX3K Or have stars ranging from red, then up through the yellows and white-greens, then blue, and for the highest ranking, indigo-lavender. Like real stars.
4 likesHave another one with black holes (basically for saying "this sucks) That would work great, but I think it might confuse some people, so it should probably be used on an astronomy forum instead or something.
@Bio-error 1d10t: User unable to create name. That's actually pretty clever.
2 likesWho’s here after hearing that YouTube is planning to remove dislikes? EmpLemon predicted the future
16 likesdamn
1 likeyou predicted the future my man
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it's not the first time either
2 likes@AlinaGray88 And far from the last...
0 likesThis site is a shitshow
1 likeGod damnit youtube...
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I went STRAIGHT to this video after I heard this. Man...
8 likes@IDon'tKnowAnymore As have I
0 likesYeah, I know.
0 likesI guess this is it huh..
0 likesHey I know you!
0 likes:(
2 likesThis video aged like bitcoin
4 likesI hardly knew ye.
2 likesUsed the “I hate the pill” clip?
162 likesYou have my support
I am sad
0 likesOh no no no...
2 likesWelp.
2 likesSuddenly it's back.
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This is when someone says the milk thing
0 likes20:41
1 likeWell well well how the tables
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How ARE the tables?
0 likesThis video aged amazingly
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Like a fine wine my friend.
2 likesThis aged well
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An aged wine my friend, an absolutely well aged wine...
1 likeCould you make an update video regarding this since Youtube is up to this again
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This video just became a whole lot more relevant
4 likes@Landon Hoover No new comment is nessicary
0 likesfinest fucking wine aging I've ever seen.
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Agreed
0 likesGoogle and censorship go hand in hand, give em the least amount of leverage and they’ll make the most out of it. I really wish I would’ve appreciated YouTube when it was great.
1 likeWelp, now they're experimenting with only letting creators see dislikes, because like 1.5 creators whined about seeing dislikes. Beautiful logic. Plus, the "Disable Likes and Dislikes" feature already exists!
2 likesthey really plannin to take out dislikes, susans pretty much od'ing on positive vibes just so she can think she's been a good ceo
32 likesWell, now I have to share this video with everyone I know
6 likesEmp is a prophet.
5 likesThis aged like fine wine
7 likesYou were way ahead of your time with this video
18 likesOH GOD IT'S HAPPENING, EVERYBODY RUN
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EVERYBODY STAY CALM!
0 likesEVERYONE PANIC, IT IS HAPPENING
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GENERAL QUARTERS, GENERAL QUARTERS, ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS!!!
1 likewho came here after YouTube's announcement
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Everyone who came after you
1 likeAnd this video has become relevant again, because Youtube is on a downward spiral.
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And this video has become relevant yet again, because Youtube is still on a downward spiral.
0 likesThis is a lot more prevalent now.
18 likesIt was only a matter of time...
9 likesNot even two years later and here we are... 😔
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It is two years later tho
1 likeKinda
0 likesThis video has aged beautifully
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especially with the bloons td battles music used at 7:20 and the rise in popularity of bloons TD 6
0 likesextremely relevant video now
11 likesWelp, it's finally happening.... Just one more motivation to YEET out of Youtube...
4 likesOh boi they just announced to pretty much remove it
7 likesAnd now i will watch this video twice just for the hell of it. Banger video, dude.
2 likesAnd now this video is more relevant than ever
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Well shit
0 likesSometimes YouTube will change something that irks me. They have made the likes and dislikes white and black now, and moved the comments, which are kind of annoying. When they added double ads, that also was annoying but truthfully I won’t be up in arms about it.
0 likesBut now that they are actually implementing this in an experimental way is a terrible idea. That would legitimately frustrate me, but I can’t do a whole lot to convince them since they don’t listen to people. There is a reason why people hate the Facebook and Twitter rating systems, because removing dislike is the dumbest possible idea you can have for a platform.
And years later, it’s finally happening!
3 likes(On “select videos” at least.)
THEY DID IT! THEY REALLY DID IT! I immediately thought of this video when I saw it!
2 likesWelcome back from twitter
10 likesEmplemon pulled out his inner Simpson and predicted this shit perfectly
1 like"I, for one, welcome our insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a Youtube personality, I can help in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
0 likeslol. Had to go back to this after the news
12 likesIt's here, the idea is reality.
4 likesWell well well look who unfortunately predicted the future.
9 likesYou predicted the future
5 likesThis is getting more relevant than ever.
2 likesEnjoy the traffic on this video. Courtesy of YouTube.
8 likesThis video is more important now than ever before.
2 likesThis video couldn’t have come at a better time when YouTube is considering taking the Dislikes away thanks Algorithm
0 likesthey are doing it now
8 likesrip dislikes
8 likesSo, when is the sequel coming out?
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Y E S
1 likeWho is here after YouTube’s little “ experiment” tweet?
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aka permanent
3 likesSo that's (one of the reasons) why YouTube recommends new Folding Ideas over old ones, his latest popular video has the ratings on. No dislike mobs there either. YouTube wants engagement, it doesn't care how.
0 likesNot only is removing dislikes a bad thing because of no other way to check for the agreements of a video, it will deliberately demolish the goal of Neutral Response.
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"I have no strong feelings one way or the other"
1 likeThe best solution is for there to be no likes or dislikes...
But that is impossible to achieve
Welp, this video is more relevant than ever.
10 likes.
Edit: This video is way more relevant then ever.
Glad I wasn't the only one who's first thought today was coming back here.
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Ya
0 likesit was never a matter of if, but a matter of when, sadly
3 likesthis aged like fine wine
3 likesmore relevant than ever
5 likesI do imagine this is a bad thing that will happen, but then again in another video from this channel, (youtube vs viacom) he specified at the start that youtubers generally adapt to any new guidelines or design changes and everything basically stays the same...
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Everything continues to become worse, yet nothing ever hits the critical failure point where they'd have to actually try to fix problems to make the website work again...
0 likes"Grass roots youtubers like pewdiepie and MrBeast" MrBeast is in youtube's pocket
0 likes...like fine wine...
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Aggressive drinking noises...
2 likesThis vid is going to be popular, only a little while until this shiz explodes
6 likesHere (again) becuase of the recent youtube tweet update lol
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Here again to say, yeah... youtube sucks
0 likes>very extreme option
3 likesWe are in the endgame now I suppose
This just got more relevant
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and then it got less relevant again
0 likes@Michael Vogel If you go on mobile, and go to youtube shorts, it only shows you likes but not dislikes. People usually complain and then forget about these changes quickly though.
1 like@Kevin Luo ah yeah, apparently you're right, I don't watch shorts so I never noticed
1 likeToday is the day
0 likes4:10 You cut the best part! "My knob tastes funny"
1 likeAged like a fine wine.
2 likesi'm a new sub and i'm really enjoying your vids.
0 likes...but i'm gonna dislike this one because the irony is too funny to me. 😀
Red and Green are difficult for some colourblind people tbh. So using green and red is not really good for accessibility.
0 likesOne thing i dont understand and nobody ever brings this up
1 likeIs why do comments have a dislike option
Why do they have a dislike option
Its been there since I started coming on youtube in 2014 or so, and its always been there with no dislikes shown, yet nothing's been done with them
I came here to say you were right. It's happened.
1 likeWell I haven’t updated YouTube yet, so as long as I don’t update I’ll still see the dislikes.
1 likeemp lemon just does not miss god damn
0 likesEdit: nvm Emp Lemon REALLY does not miss
They removed the Dislike counter!! Now no one can have an opinion!
3 likesWell Susan just did an update as an ‘experiment’...
13 likesThis is relevant now!
13 likes5:05 for an example, Mcarthur Park by Richard Harris is 88%
0 likesThey're planning on doing this now.
3 likesYouTube is really gonna do it. Every time I think they won't sink any lower, they do.
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It does seem to be a common theme with them in more recent decades...
0 likesIt's actually happening now as well LMAO
1 likeOh god he predicted it
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Nah, we failed to stop YouTube despite him warning us.
0 likesWell this video became relevant again.
2 likesthis video aged like wine
1 likeWhen someone dislikes this video: Ironic Palpatine
0 likesThe white house was triggered by the dislikes so now youtube wants to disable it.
1 likeThis is now very relevant.
Prophet Emp. We are doomed.
2 likesAnnnnnd here we are.
9 likesI love you, dude. I fucking hate Dan Olson and Quinton Reviews (even though I'm subbed to him).
0 likesThis video is somehow in the controversial tier
0 likesWe need a part two
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Arguably the video already provides enough information that a 2nd video could likely just lead to repeating the same things just with more recent events to work with
0 likesThis video is more relevant then ever
1 likeSTOP PREDICTING THE FUTURE
6 likesThanks for letting me know about Youtube rewind 2018 just disliked it
0 likesA prediction of the past that became true in the future
0 likes12:09 took a wild turn there for a second. lmao
0 likesWow, this is way too relevant now
1 likeHere after you were right
5 likesIT'S HAPPENING
6 likesWHO’S HERE AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT LMAO
3 likeswe live in the darkest timeline
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Nah, the darkest timeline is where the Nazis won in Europe and Aisa.
0 likesA dark timeline maybe, but not the darkest...
@GameMaker 3_5 it's hyperbole
0 likesThis predicted the future much...
2 likesIt's all has to do with politics. They only care because it's the things they support which are being downvoted.
0 likesDislikes are being removed, so use this comment as the new dislike button.
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This will be our new way... for now...
2 likes@GameMaker 3_5 I really hope this is not how we need to show that we dislike something, but it seems to be the case.
2 likesAaaaand he was right
3 likesIm gonna have to have a talk with my washing machine video
3 likesJoke's on you, outdated video! Youtube actually wants to remove dislike count now!
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Doesn't make its message any more applicable in recent times...
1 likereddit is the opposite of removing dislike
1 likeWe should’ve listened to him
0 likesSurprisingly, i enjoyed this video. I actually am a big fan of Dan's content and content creators like him. I do wish he showed his ratings, though, i didn't know he was entirely against dislikes because I have no social media, only Youtube and he never seemed to mention it on his youtube. But honestly, this dislike to like ratio is goofy. It doesn't matter if they go away or not because, like you said Emp, they will always be there. I think dislikes are good because if someone disagrees with you they can slap the dislike button and feel like they did something; like they deflated your entire argument! My only criticism of your video is that you kinda just say stuff. I wish you showed actually studies and hard evidence rather than graphs you made. You also seem to target exclusively liberal audiences. You might see me as "liberal" because I said i liked Dan's content, but trust me, I dislike liberals.
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Also, you definitely did cherry pick on who gets dislikes. When you mentioned the whole Leafy and iDubbbz debacle and how iDubbbz shooed Leafy, you ignored all the kids and other people Leafy targeted who definitely had a smaller following that him.
0 likesIs he from the future?
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Probably... but then again, he did mention that youtube threw the idea around a few months before this video came out...
0 likesThey’re planning to fucking do it...
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H E R E W E G O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
2 likesThe prophecy is... true.
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Youtube is really smart,destroying free speech so every shit content creator can walk around bragging on how many likes they got and how nobody hates em
0 likesSadly this happened, the dislikes are no more.
6 likesIt’s happening
6 likesWhy the hell is this aged well? :/
0 likesThe prophecy is real!
0 likesWelp, dislikes gonna get yeeted now.
0 likesAm I the only one who disliked the video just because of the title?
0 likesDownward Spiral.
2 likesOh so NOW everybody gets mad dislikes are removed, but whenever I say Twitter should ADD dislikes, people get pissy at me. OK then
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Twitter never had dislikes to start with...
6 likesYouTube is tampering with one of the fundimental functions of their website.
Although that doesn't mean I believe your idea is stupid, it could be done with purpose... might make the site 3% less toxic
they did it
1 likeI disliked this video in agreement of your argument
0 likesThe dislike mob is just a bunch of people hitting the dislike button for shits and giggles
1 likePopping by to say fk YouTube
4 likesI wonder if dislike is Tottaly removed
0 likesPpl would just comment stuff like
"Reply this comment if you dislike this video"
r.i.p.
5 likesGod damn he’s a prophet, a god of the likes of montizon and Susan Wojikiiiokojokoijschky
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Why did you comment this at like 6 A.M?
0 likesI just woke up aroun that time...
Most of the channels with the most dislikes on their videos, are just shitty channels to begin with. (Except pewdiepie, he's a legend.)
0 likeslike a fine wine
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3 likes@Your_Local_Road_Cone Cheers!
3 likesrip dislikes
2 likescould someone spam mob tweet this Video at Team Youtube? I don't have Twitter ^^;
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That isn't too hard to fix though...
0 likes@GameMaker 3_5 I don't wanna have Twitter though it's 90% too toxic^^ Youtube Comments might be Toxic aswell but I stuck here long enough to handle it. Not with Twitter though
0 likesThe people who disliked this video are the biggest hypocrites on earth.
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I think they’re just being funny
3 likes@Kai West i hope so!
0 likesFunny time to recommend this, algorithm
0 likesWhat, why do people say dislikes are removed...I still see dislikes (with a blue bar under it) ... living in Germany. Hope it is just A/B testing and they will come to the conclusion that dislikes should stay!
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We can only hope that it will be what they come to...
0 likes"Dislike mobs" is hardly an issue on YouTubers' minds. It's such a pretty thing to make big changes over.
6 likesHow do you make the most boring subjects sound interesting
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Hes powered by the downward spiral
15 likesThe spiral has blessed this town.
5 likesi feel like the EU is literally gonna ban vpns
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Maybe they'll legally require VPNs to tell websites whether their users are in the EU so they know whether to obey EU restrictions.
1 likeFor ages, l havent't gor any possibilities to dislike comments.
0 likesHow about a timer that makes it so only people who have watched all/most of the video can comment?
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Arguably you could just let the video run without actually watching it and still dislike.
0 likesSomeone make a youtube alternative please.
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Dailymotion, Vimeo, Bitchute, and StoryFire all await you when you are ready to mobilize with the millions of the other men we will need for our D-day invasion...
0 likesIn summary: Small creators can't get hurt by dislike mobs, because dislike mobs are not that relevant. Proof: The most hated videos of all time are not made by small creators but are more like public fuck ups.
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Even big conntent creators like Jake Paul manage to get attention and views besides the hate against him
1 likethere was more to the video than this
0 likesMy boy emp needs way more subs then he has considering the quantity of his vids
3 likesIf I'm being honest; I like the blue/gray. The red & green is bothersome to look at.
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I suppose, it could be argued that emp's view on the colour change of the ratings bar is rather nitpicky as it could be a more softer aesthetic change to suit the colours surrounding the website.
1 like@quantum. I can see what he meant, others have argued this same point too. I just think it looks better.
0 likesShould we remove dislike
13 likesNo 50%🔵 NO but in red 50% 🔴
I don't know weather to like to show support or to dislike to show support
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I think disliking it can be seen as a way to support the continuation of the dislike button
0 likes@GameMaker 3_5 yeah probably
0 likesIf dislikes inhibit a video's growth by impacting the algorithm, whose fault is that? Youtube's. They act like the algorithm is a runaway droid that they have no ability to improve.
11 likesI will say, as devil's advocate, that I find the constant dislikes on totally harmless and high-quality videos to be extremely annoying. Dislike brigades are a thing, it's just that they're not necessarily organized; they exist as opponents of a particular content creator, like an anti-fan club, who make a point to dislike the video no matter what.
On some videos, you might see comments saying "this 10 minute video has been up for 1 minute and there is already a dislike" or comments like it, which express incredulity at the impulse to insult someone's work. It shows you the troll mentality that good people have to put up with.
I will say that you really adjusted my opinion with this video though and I do think, primarily for the use of anti-corporate defense, that dislikes should be maintained.
15:24 VAI BRASILSILSILSILSILSILSILSILSILSILSILSIL!!!!
1 likeI hate that you were right
0 likesDisliked because of the pointless ear rape...still a good vid tho
0 likesWait, so the people who support removing dislikes have disliked this video? Hmmmmmmmmmm
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I'm pretty sure a lot of the dislikes on this video are symbolic, as in the people who agree that the dislike should exist disliked the video, as a bit of a joke.
15 likesnope. not all. i disliked because i genuinely disagree with some of his points
1 like@ian silent wait so do you think the dislike button should be removed?
2 likes@Jack B No. I disliked it because of how EmpLemon pushed way too much political stuff into the video. Even thought I think I have a very similar political view as Emp, the politcal "jokes" made the video less enjoyable. I also didn't like how much he attacked the other content creator who disabled his likes & dislikes. EmpLemon went a bit overboard, I think.
2 likesThat's like saying to emplemon, "Why do you use youtube when you dislike its corperate ideals so much".
1 like@ian silent I agree that the way he overly "attacked" other creators and pushed some of his thoughts was uncalled for, but for me personally I would use the dislike only if I disagreed with the general message of the video.
0 likes"I'm sorry i'm not good I apologize for my ego please forgive me, i'm just European."
7 likesBest b4nny quote of all time.
If they remove dislikes, creators won't find out what their audience thinks is not okay to them. Future audiences won't see how others who watched the video liked it.
7 likesDislikes is also an faster alternative to leaving a "hate" comment that might get removed or won't be taken seriously.
Well then...
3 likesDead on. Dead on.
0 likesI feel like Youtube should hire Emplemon
13 likesdamn..
2 likesThe prophecy is true!
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The funny meme music begins playing...
0 likesOne of my videos that I spent a lot of time on talks about a controversial event in history, problem was that it got disliked bombed in the first few days. No comments apart from some of my fans saying whatever, they just disliked it. So I thought it was unjustified because I spend time on videos and people just trash on it because they can do it. I remove ratings for about a week, I take them off and all the dislikes are gone.
5 likesI don't even know anymore if I either got a dislike mob that just later removed the dislikes, or somehow I was able to remove the dislikes, I want to hear criticism from people, but the fact of the matter is if nobody gives you any and just dislikes, it can't really be seen as controversial and just trolling and ruining a possible reputation.
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Nobody cares, redditor.
0 likes@Dedu Oh no! My ego has been challenged by someone with an anime pfp. What shall I do to proceed?!
0 likes@Z01nk nothing you can do now bud 😎😎😎🔥🔥💯💯💯
0 likes@Dedu Nuts.
0 likesoh boy...
2 likes69k likes, nice
0 likesIt's happening
0 likesthere's always a needle in the haystack, u shouldn't block it.. rather get a magnet and solve the issue professionally
5 likesoh no youtube please don't
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1 likeI'M SORRY JIMBO, BUT I MUST DO WHAT I DO BEST!!!
1 likeGreat video Emp!
8 likesTotally agree with your video!
I disliked. 👎 🙃
so now Fox News reports with No comments or likes/dislikes allowed...
0 likesDid we lose
3 likesRIP
0 likesHahahahahaha. Youtube is thinking of removing the dislike button after their rewind turned out to be the most disliked video in YouTube
45 likes"Comments are a better means of recieving feedback"... Not for the audience, Comments can be disabled and removed by the creator.
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Especially very controversial vids.
8 likesWell if they want to go f comments then they should disable that feature. If that is true i may be in favour of the removal of dislikes
0 likesOr hardly any comments give positive criticism of the video in order to improve the quality of the videos that come after it
0 likesSome even scams lol
0 likesikr i used to censor the f out of my coomment section back when i had a baddie channel before it was nuked
0 likesThis will probably be lost, but I have a Never Ever suggestion:
22 likesThere will Never Ever be Another Comedian like Chris Farley
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Commenting just to get more notoriety to this post.
4 likeswell uh
7 likesWell maybe, if they get their shit together
4 likesThis whole dislike contrivercy could have been avoided
KEEN ON THE NEXT VIDEO NOT GONNA LIE, idk why my caps was on, meh, love your work emp, loved it in the YTP days and still love what it has evolved into today, keep it up. peace.
17 likesThey'll remove dislikes the same way FB did, and then at some point no one will care. I think it's bad to not have dislike buttons, but you'll all get over it eventually like FB.
6 likesPS : This is disputed video rating at 90% approximately.
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I don't find that a compelling argument. I could get over the loss of a limb with time but having all of my limbs is still objectively better.
2 likesAlso, I left facebook years ago so I suppose I didn't get over that site becoming more annoying than useful.
@Ave, True To Caesar! cherrypicking the first result on google says FB has 15 million(!) fewer US users since 2017. I guess even normies who don't know psychological experiments are being carried out on them know when they've had enough.
0 likes@Augustus Bohn This isnt an argument. I'm saying the masses are being lulled. I'm not defending FB. Also nobody uses FB to post on it blog style anymore, it's either commercial entities or Messenger. I've abandonned my feed completely and unfollowed everyone. I dont care what happens in your life unless you're a close relative.
0 likesI wish more video essayists used youtube poop editing.
36 likesOn android dislikes do still exist
0 likesYou were about 2 years too early
0 likesFunny how this is relevance to today without public dislikes.
0 likesSomeone please show this to Susan
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Point the video makes is that removing dislikes doesnt benefit creators, but does benefit corporations. Now guess which one of those Susan doesnt give a shit about?
0 likesonly if he knew
1 likeLike wine
0 likespoeple who hate dislikes pressed dislike on this video
1 likeWho's here in 2021
3 likesWhoops!
1 likePain.
0 likesuh oh spahgettio's
0 likesoh come on
0 likestime to dislike
1 likeI love dislikes, YouTube’s decision is horrible!!
0 likesWelp...
1 likeIt's always a downward spiral man, and its gonna get worse before it gets better... (if it ever gets better)
4 likes8:47
0 likesWell shit.
0 likesPepeLaugh oh no no no
0 likesthis guy: why we should like dislikes
67 likesme, disliking the video: i’m helping
ironic
1 likeOf course
0 likesoh no
3 likesHonestly if a video on YouTube with a lot of views doesn't have a reasonable amount of dislikes can we even call it a YouTube video? Lol
3 likesIt's one of those laws of life or something. I can't imagine YouTube without the "dislike" button!
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if it got patched out we'd just patch it back in
0 likesThat tier list holds up with the Joe Biden videos on CNN these days.
0 likesDisliking for the sake of it. Goodbye, dislike button....
0 likesWE DIDN'T LISTEN
0 likesi feel inclination to dislike this video now
0 likesjust spite youtube
Some people came back to this to
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Yeah, hope they bring OUR dislikes back!
0 likesWow
0 likesF
2 likesCovid 19 section lmao
0 likesThe hard R word doesn't mean black people, its a broad term for being ignorant. Pewdiepie didn't know if that guy was black or not so he was just using it in its proper form. Any word could have been said on that bridge. Educate yourself fools.
0 likes:(
0 likesi dont get why that “the best men can be” got such a bad ratio, it was a good video with a very positive point. it was just pointing out common issues with men like sexual assault and the stigma that so many have against women that exist in this world
1 likeAs someone who has been on YouTube for almost a decade (Since 2011, I had a different account than the one I'm using,) I find dislikes completely irrelevant to a video I'm watching unless around 50% or more in comparison to the likes. That usually means the video or creator is getting some serious flak and a red flag. Anything less isn't a hate mob, and couldn't matter less
0 likesI feel like most of the dislikes are due to irony. I love the video, but I think disliking the video is pretty funny.
2 likesYou know a video did something right when the topic is dislikes and yet there’s still a solid like-dislike video
1 likeEdit Nov 2021: Who knew I'd also end up predicting the end of dislikes?
2 likesYou cannot hate this video. You can't. The dislike button has become a good button. You can only enjoy this video (ratings-wise)
I love the way you incorporate YTP into your videos
1 likeOkay but I would just love if it prompted you to explain why you disliked it, because when I get a dislike I think "well I fucked up, but where?", I'd just be useful to have something that shows why it was disliked ya'know?
2 likesI love how this is probably the most disliked video on his channel
0 likesNow, people get ratings locked on their entire channel by youtube
5 likesI use Instagram and oh god do I wish they had a dislike/downvote button sometimes. You are absolutely right about people hitting dislike not because of the quality of the video but because they disagree with its message, and I increasingly feel Instagram desperately needs something like this so I can simply hit dislike if I see something cringy and/or offensive, rather than writing a comment and risking starting a war in the comments section. But unfortunately that will probably never happen on Instagram, because most of its users are insecure teenagers who don't wanna have their self esteem ruined if even one person hits dislike on their post.
0 likesMaybe they can make it so the dislike button only exists for public accounts. Like you said, when you put yourself out in the open there's always gonna be at least someone who's gonna hate. And this would also probably incentivize IG's younger/more sensitive users to keep their accounts private.
Evidence that at least 1% of viewers are practically guaranteed to dislike a video: Cute puppy videos. How could anyone dislike a cute puppy video? They're so fluffy and adorable. The first five results I found on YT each had at least 1k dislikes. Dislikes are just a part of the game.
1 likeThe problem with likes and dislikes is that if you're getting dislikes, that still means that you're engaging people albeit in a negative way. If you're getting either, it should be a mark of quality since non-quality content are obscure. Heavily disliked content is just controversial and there's good reason to promote controversial ideas just as well as non-controversial ideas.
2 likesA better indication of quality would be the sum of likes and dislikes divided by views. So if you get a lot of views, but few likes or dislikes - then your video is probably pretty low quality.
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You mean the dislike percentages he talked about in the video ?
3 likesThe people who'd support removing dislikes don't know why people find it weird to ever have them disabled on videos in the first place: it's a shine of cowardice. Why should anyone take your content seriously if you remove the ability to even criticize it? This is so dumb, thinking dislikes hurt you is expecting to fail and have backlash so huge that you put Rewind 2018 to shame. If your video isn't horrible, then the dislikes won't be bad: if they are that bad then it's not the viewers: it's you.
1 likepeople always used the dislike button as an threating weapon and its very relatable joke while they still never noticed the flag button
1 likeDisliking this video on the grounds that you disagree is the height of irony.
2 likesThis video reminded me of YouTube rewind and that’s just the funniest thing to me
4 likesAnother great vid. Thank you. Hopefully the dislike button stays alive.
0 likesI noticed your video falls into "controversial" tier. Given the topic, I just cannot image why! P.S. I admire your ability to admit that your were internally writing off some of your criticism as fanboyism. We all need to be willing and able to simply own up to ourselves and our sins.
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I think people are disliking cuz the title seems like it asks for it
2 likes@EonTheAlien Yeah, makes sense. When you're giving your audience the finger, it kinda puts people on edge.
1 likeJust realized this video can be taken down for impersonating someone at your intro. YouTube dont take lightly to that
1 likeInterestingly, the YouTube comment dislikes actually work... kinda. If you've gone to videos from small-medium channels with less than 1000 comments, you can scroll down and eventually the comment will go from positive/funny to controversial or trolling. It seems disliking comments work, you just can't see how much dislikes a comment has.
1 likeWhenever i see someone with comments disabled i immediately assume that they are hiding a terrible like ratio. Why else would you do it?
1 like9:05 "I never seen a succefull and respected youtuber who frequently disabled his rating"
3 likeshey remember in 2014 when pewdiepie decided to disabled comment to even his old videos does no one remembered that?
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That's irrelevant.
0 likesI agree with you, but 'dislike mobs' are a thing though
1 likeMarch 2020:
0 likesThis video has 68,829 Likes, and 9,400 Dislikes for a total of 78,229 Votes. Dividing the Likes by the Total gives us about an 88% Approval Rating, which lands this video right into the "Controversial Tier". Considering that this video is about a topic that's apparently divisive (according to the video itself), that makes a lot of sense.
funny how months later YouTube went popping off making another fantastic rewind video
1 likeSo the people who want dislikes to be gone are the same people who disliked the video and the same people who want dislikes to stay are liking the video
2 likesedit: well shit
You know the crazy part about it, is that I can’t remember the last time I have EVER DISLIKED. A video. I think the last time I did was in middle school. Ok correction I think I did early last year but the point is it’s extremely rare Because if I usually don’t find something interesting or I don’t like it I just leave which I’m sure most of you do. Unless it’s music which I can I understand dislikes on those vids or movies. But The only time I dislike something is if it’s offending as hell disrespectful or just plane wrong. But usually don’t come across that stuff. Because that stuff would probably be flagged and token down by YouTube anyways. So I never understood why the dislikes so many in fact on pretty much almost EVERY VIDEO I ever see. Even on seemingly harmless vids of cute babies or cute cats or good acts of people or whatever wholesome, just anything sweet of that nature. I just always felt it was some sort of mob just going around disliking shit for no reason. I always find my self saying WHO COULD DISLIKE THIS!???
0 likesI never dislike and rarely like videos, I mostly like videos just to simply save it because its faster then adding to a playlist. I don't expect anyone over 16 to like videos frequently or even pay attention to the links or dislike ratio. What is the point of the viewer looking at it?
1 likeRemoving the dislikes will SIGNIFIGANTLY shrink the quality of all of youtube.
1 likeI can't tell if the amount of dislikes you have is people joking around or people genuinely disagreeing with your opinion
0 likesThe whole removing dislikes thing is based on the idea that any negativity is bad and the idea that corporations being put down is bad. Which is a horrible, horrible fallacy.
1 like17:50 dream in a nutshell
10 likesDuuuuuude the star system has been gone for ten years now? Wow.
6 likesI miss when comments could be disliked. People getting bodied left right and center lmfao
3 likesEmpLemon: "You should like dislikes"
0 likes9,000 people watching: ok then *dislikes video*
Hearing the Bloons Tower Defense Theme made my day lmfao I haven't heard it in so long, amazing video!!!
0 likesMe trying not to feel bad for a 81% disliked video of a gun camo and some music:
0 likesYouTube: try this
I think the features, YouTube should remove is disable comments and turn off ratings system.
0 likesAm I the only one that thinks disliking this video because u dislike it is super hypocritical?
1 likeI did my civic duty and disliked the video in-order to show my appreciation of the dislike feature
0 likesthe premier feature has proved that people dislike videos before being able to see what’s happening in it. this is my only discrepancy, good video.
0 likes0:33
0 likesI love how the video has so many dislikes
I dunno man Dan Olsen seems to be doing pretty OK right now and put out some fire videos recently.
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Why are you supporting and advocate of censorship
2 likes"Trust - in a nutshell"
2 likesIronic
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I've seen that video a few times but I've never really looked at it to see what was wrong, is there a good TLDR version?
0 likesAnd then there's IGN's review of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers which is at like 90% dislikes. It's important to leave these dislikes up or else people might think it's actually a decent review.
0 likesSomebody should show this to DSP
1 likeThis was basically 27 minutes of you roasting Dan Olson.
1 likeBy disliking this video you are affectively liking it
1 likeGreat video. Great points! (No sarcasm. No shade.)
2 likesBut, I don't think you should hold people back because they want to disable things in their channels or videos. Or, hide their sub count from the public. They have their reasons and that pertains to their choices. Not yours. Respect. And, if they want the dislike button removed, that's ok too. That's their prerogative.
Even if I got a billion dislikes and lost trillions of subs I refuse to change myself to please strangers that I don't know, nor care about me personally. Or, because they don't agree with what I post. I'm going to do what I think is right and stay true to my beliefs and actions.
I don't care if the dislike button is removed or not. I believe in freedom of speech and choice. But, it's sad how social media controls how we think, feel, decide, and choose. It's a flock of sheep. I'm not going to rule out there are people disliking videos without actually watching the video or because they're influenced to do so by looking at the rating meter. Yes. Dislikes can be hurtful or helpful. But. This is kind of bias and makes the channel owner feel horrible about themselves.
Youtube wants to remove the dislike button? Cool. It's their website, their business. You don't like a video then just ghost it and move on.
Over 9000 people who dislike your take on keeping dislikes disliked the video
0 likesI thought it was "Why You Should Dislike", I love you Emp
0 likesI revisited the video, like I do with all Emp videos just to enjoy it again. I went to click the like button, but to my surprise I hit the dislike button at the time the video came out. I laughed to myself, knowing that I did so as an act of support for the dislike button
0 likesI especially like the BTD5 music. gave me some nostalgia
0 likeswe should go back to the star system
3 likesThere is no better demonstration of how fundamentally dishonest Google is as a company than the claim about people being able to show their dissatisfaction through comments. Any person or company that has ever handled a fraction of the data Google processes every minute knows that surveys are far more efficient when they only use multiple choice options, because that data can be processed quickly and automatically to give results.
0 likesLmao I use the like system as a bookmark tool. sometimes bad video gets likes if I want to show it to someone later
1 likeThis is just me but I don’t like videos if I think they are average I just watch them and leave. I like videos that are good, ignore videos that are meh, and dislike videos that are bad.
1 likeThe problem is it's not a good or bad thing. I often dislike videos for small little things because the creator needs some kind of indication that isn't hate comments that something is wrong.
0 likesStop telling people to like your videos, let them hit that button if they feel like it. It's the same shit with tips, I'm not your boss I'm not responsible for you to get paid. Don't like it? Talk to your boss not me. I barely can afford to go to your restaurant yet you still want me to pay your employees for doing their fucking job? Because they didn't fuck up? Oh boo hoo you can't talk to your boss that way.
i dislike videos that have the like to dislike ratio hidden whether i like the person/agree with them or not. lame move
1 likeThis is a great video man
0 likesI have 100% likes on my channel. Granted, I have fewer than 10 vids with fewer than 200 views between them. But 100% though.... yayyyyy
0 likesAs a user, I don't tend to use dislikes, I just click away. I do tend to leave a comment if I think the video just needs work or to do something different.
As a creator, I'd value comments to improve my content. I was always under the impression that likes/dislikes are just counted equally as 'engagement'. Nothing but a tool for the user to feel like they're making a point.
I'm not a very savvy person with this stuff, though.
YouTube doing something to protect small creators man thats funny
0 likes15:27
1 likeI am brazilian and I don't have any idea who this woman is.
But yeah probably Bolsnaro fans (I forgot the term for this) mass disliked.
They have basically already removed the dislike button on comments.
2 likesI disliked this video... To agree.
0 likesBut seriously. YouTube shouldn't remove dislike function. It's already nonfunctional in the comments section.
lmao edit at 12:00 is great you are a meme and editing master
0 likesdis
9 likeslikes
matter
i miss these times
0 likesPetition to bring back dislikes for comments.
2 likesTo all of the people who disliked this video for the memes, Noice one
0 likesit's an honour to dislike this video :D
0 likesTier list only accurate if you're a big youtube
0 likes12:25 so funny
3 likesThey shouldn't remove dislikes, they should make it so you can see the amount of dislikes on comments LMAO
1 likeWow, I can’t believe a dislike mob bombed this video.
0 likesEmp is a god
0 likesi studdy consperasies and sutch as a hobby, and when it comes to consperacy theories in real life, like the rusia colusion or stolen ellection over in america, it anoyed me when evryone is acusing someone of a colusion and consperacy when what most likely happend was a case of Emergent behavior.
0 likesAka, instead of someone hiding in the shadows forcefully manipulated the masses to do something, the outcome was the resoult of the masses doing what was in their favor. sorry the clunky explonation, but lets say there is a gathering of fish, instead of thinking all the fish have come to that place in the pond because of a shadow organisaation of fish has all ordered them there, prehaps there is a piece of bread floating in the water, and all the fish want that water.
Its the same with mass disslikes and collusions.
Long live the Lemon
0 likesI mean a "Dislike mob" could send negative signals not through the ratings, but the average watch time. But still not a valid reason to remove a means of communication your satisfaction or lack thereof.
0 likesJust make it so that you can't like or dislike at all unless you've watched the ENTIRE video.
0 likesI disliked your video and watched the entire thing, no offense just living up the nostolgia before it goes away. :)
1 likeHOPE IT DOESN'T, that's ridiculous.
Great video!!!! :D
0 likesIma dislike this video since I liked it :)
3 likeshmm yes 9.4k dislikes from either bots who are programmed to dislike everything in the matter of minutes or people who bothered to dislike
0 likesAnd then Xisumavoid came along and used dislikes for a poll
1 likeThat mini youtube poop in the middle of the video was ana awesome surprise
0 likesi automatically dislike a video with ratings disabled
1 like77% lemon, looking controversial are we :(
0 likesThis reminded me of how much I hate quinton reviews
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What does he review?
0 likesActually the Star rating systeme was better dislike and like is too binary there are plenty of video that i neither like or dislike sometime i agree with the message but not its delivery a 3.5....
2 likesi disliked the video to show that i think dislikes should stay
1 likemorgzs vids are always between teh 94 and 70% likes area lol
1 likeThe people who disliked want to remove the dislike.
0 likesYou became the very thing you swore to destroy
I was playing balloons tower 5 and I was like wtf I know I muted the music then I realized it was your video
1 likeDislike it for the memes boys, dislike it for the memes >:)
0 likesOne last bit. I wouldn't know anything a about being an "uninformed knuckle head spewing opinions". It's not like I just I just say things in the heat of the moment, like here, or towards Nico Evaulates. I don't just accuse people of things without gathering information, or leave comments everywhere. I just not that kind of person.
1 likeDislikes are not counted accurately. Once I was in a heated comment argument and the other guy had 10 accounts all watch 10 seconds of my low view videos then hit dislike. After several hours all the dislikes were automatically removed.
0 likesThe star system was the best
0 likesBruh, I just dislike videos when I don't like it. Like if the format is not one I enjoy, or if it's a topic I don't care about. I use it to tell youtube what to recommend and it works better than the "not interested".
0 likesi disliked out of a show of respect
0 likesPutin: puts alexei navalny in prison for surviving poison attack
0 likesThe people: 0:39
Weird how this video got 9k dislikes.
1 likeShould... should I dislike this video??
1 likeShould I unironicly dislike the video
1 likeGood lord, there's not even any color now
4 likesWhy doesn’t dislikes on comments work?
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Yeah I’ve always wondered.
0 likesWhat if my ratings are strange because I barely have an audience
0 likesThank God there are still dislikes
0 likesThank God there are still dislikes
0 likesDid he just predict youtube rewind 2020 13:32 (i mean 2019)
0 likeslook at the like/dislike ratio... pretty sure thats a paradox
0 likes11:16 esse é o comentário brasileiro que você estava procurando
2 likes2 words: L E F T W I N G
0 likesI just realized I can like and dislike at the same time?
0 likesWhy does this have so many dislikes?
1 likeBring back stars system, how about that YouTube
1 likeThe dislike button is the great equalizer.
0 likesI don't remember watching this video but I clicked on it and saw that I disliked it
0 likesIk this has nothing to do with the video but how is adblock not bankrupting youtube?
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Not enough people are using it
0 likesI wish they still had dislikes for comments or at least downvotes
0 likesThe fact it happened again.
1 likenow tell us how useless disliking a comment is
0 likesThis is controversial tier lol
0 likesDat Mario paint music 🎶
0 likesPretty sure whoever came up with this idea was a manchild who can't handle criticism. Far too many people like this these days
0 likesThat dislike ratio
0 likesLooks like your video is in the controversial tier
1 likeAnd the worst scum of all are the people who disable comments.
5 likesIronically disliked (Count 1 dislike as a like)
1 likeWhen someone disables ratings and sometimes comments, it either means that the person can't take any critique at all or you're watching a 3D rendered demonstraion of how a mechanical gear system works.
3 likesSeriously, when somenone disables the ratings, it means that they don't want a reaction on what they just uploaded. This is a serious red flag. It's worse than starting a discussion and completely ignoring whatever the other side says. It's more like starting a discussion and taping everyones mouth shut exept for your own so the viewers can neither agree nor disagree.
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I bet if the gear videos did get comments it would all be
0 likes"Why did i even click on this, but im not complaining"
"Wow this is so satisfying"
If dislikes didn't exist then everyone would've liked the Cuties trailer.
1 likeI disliked this video because you should like them
0 likesyou should have like 1% likes, 99% dislikes, because you should only appeal to highest iq
0 likesDisliked this video, for democracy
1 likeI disliked to show appreciation
1 likeI’m disliking to show my support for dislikes.
5 likesHer kids told her it was CRINGE. XD
0 likesRight now the dislikes are still here
1 like9.4k people are appreciating the dislike button on this video
0 likesThe downwards spiral is speaking during the video
0 likesThey make thi whole dislike mob idea out to be this horrible thing, but mate has you ever heard of a like mob. And even if there was a dislike mob it would not even matter because youtube has essentially made the rating system obsolete and these mobs are using it for the very thing it was made for, without a dislike we left with just a number to go up, there need to be a balance.
1 likeMy channel is a Dislike Heaven lol. I expose Tyrants so you can see how that will reflect my channel. I see what you mean about the dislike, but it is used to just go after a person. My videos will get a bunch of dislikes with a 2 second watch time. They just come on, dislike and leave. Is that fair? I think a dislike should be recorded after the video is watched over 50 percent of the video. That helps both parties and you get a better opinion on the content quality.
0 likes14:33 someone really needs to crsuh Wesley
0 likesI disliked this video in solidarity. c:
0 likesSick BTD music 😎
0 likesi heard 8-bit thriller
1 likelove the btd music
0 likesNo one:
1 likePewdiepie: can this video game the same likes as dislikes
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Be funny please
0 likesimagine the lolzor epic no scopers who disliked this video to be haha lol funny lol lol epic gaming gaming gaming lol lol epic lol !! a !! !
0 likes(foreshadowing)
0 likesHow mant people just disliked this for fun
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did
0 likesgreat videooooo
0 likes8.7k people get it
1 likeThe dislike button on comments is useless.
1 likecan we PLEASE give the comments dislike button a counter... PLEASE
0 likesHow do I use the comment section?
2 likesThen their is me and at least one other person who only uses youtube to dislike every video recommended to them for no reason
0 likes3:48 until they deem comments section as "inadequate for criticism" but think that shadow banning isn't good enough
3 likesThen they'll demand you make your own video responses... until they deem videos as "inadequate for criticism" and keep Youtube as a gated community to corporations and celebrities
FUCK YEAH BLOONS MONKEY MUSIC
0 likesBTD 5 music :0
1 like15:28 VAI BRASIL-SIL-SIL-SIL 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🐒🐒🐒💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚
0 likesWhy do I hear BTD music?
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Blacks Taking a Dump? I think is not allowed in YouTube
0 likes@Zero Black wtf are u talking about dude?
0 likes**dislikes the video because they don’t like dislikes
1 likeBet the people who hate dislikes probably used the dislike button for this video
0 likesI gave you a dislike I hope you like it
0 likesYouTube: dislike mobs shouldn't be able to hurt a video in the algorithm, that's my job
23 likesHere's a better feature:
3 likesRemove the option to remove ratings of the video, that'll teach them.
Its like "Having the ability to say no is illegal" :)
3 likesI think they are removing dislikes Because they want to forget about YouTube rewind 2018
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I guess this is one plausibility.
2 likesI think that you should write a description when you like or dislike.
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Terrible idea. What if I just want to save the video to my liked playlist. What if the video is just funny or very interesting and there isn't much to say about it. What's to stop me from just typing "PENIS" or some other nonsense and leaving. What if the video is a scam and leaving a dislike explanation is literally a waste of time. Why would I take time out of my day to explain why you suck when there's probably already someone in the comments telling you exactly why. It's your job to engage with your audience and find out how to improve, not your audience. You get paid and we don't, so don't expect us to wipe your ass for you and don't expect us to do redundant labor with no pay.
2 likes@Sisyphean Taskmaster Maybe it could be optional.
0 likes@vlassis politis that's what comments are for.
1 likeDislike ratio is BELOW the disputed section of this video, big oof.
0 likesBTD Music nice.
0 likesI disliked this for shits and giggles
0 likes> plays the Simpsons Mysteries music over a Simpsons clip
23 likesCoincidence? I think NOT!
Ahh yes. Build an empire of Yes-Men and stuff 'em all in your Echo Chamber. The Youtube Utopia~
7 likesInteresting...
0 likesIf the dislike button ever gets removed use this comment at a dislike button
0 likesi'm really unsure if i should give you a like, to simply praise you or to give you a dislike to confirm your point...
26 likesPS: your talking about ratings seems to solely cover videos which talk about topics and not videos like short fictional stories. like more meta-content than fictional just-content. and i think that's a bit too generalizing.
where are you dirty dan
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I am dirty Dan
0 likesLove how Quinton Reviews used the "dark place" excuse for blocking people
3 likesI dissagree, dislike
2 likes18:29
0 likesWhat's the song at 4:40
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Check the description and click on the paste bin
0 likesIdea
162 likesDon’t remove the dislike button
Lock it till 10% of the video has been watched
IF they “have to”
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That wouldn't turn out well for videos over 10 hours long
49 likes@Operation Blastflight maybe in that case, it would be watch 5 minutes or so of it.
20 likesOr 10% up to 5 minutes, so on a 15 minute video, you would have to watch 90 seconds, but on a 2 hour video you would only have to watch 5 minutes because the max is 5 minutes.
25 likes@Operation Blastflight How many legitimate 10 hour videos are there again?
5 likes@Theroux don't know the number, but they are rising quickly as editing software becomes more user friendly and cheap.
0 likesAnd "legitimate" means not "Patrick riding a seahorse for 10 hours"
11 likes@Theroux oh, well not many then lol
7 likes@Theroux The longest legitimate video i've ever watched was a 7 hour review of pokemon omega ruby
3 likesNope. Instant dislike.
0 likesI'm pretty sure they do this already
0 likesIt might be easier to give dislikes a weight depending on how much the user has watched.
0 likesSomeone watches only 3 seconds before disliking? they only left 0.01 dislike as a result.
Then I’m giving creators watch time for a bad video. How is that any better?
0 likesIf dislikes do get removed I’m gonna post a comment that says “like this if you dislike the video”
15 likesI here the music and all I can think is btd
0 likesSigh
6 likesGod damn it
2 likesBecause YouTube is, where the poop is. Remember that? Wouldn't it kill to go back to those simpler times? Where squidward got possessed by a lemon?
23 likesi disliked this video.
0 likeswell F
0 likes12:30
0 likes💀💀💀
0 likesPrescient
0 likesoh boy
0 likesDislike button exists, the bar showing the ratio is gone
1 likeLol what is that at 12:58
0 likeswelp...
1 likerip
0 likesThis will only get noticed by the algorithm now that its to late
3 likesThis is like when Netflix removed the dislike button because all the gay shows, political comedians, and feminists kept getting one star. It's just a way to make people feel isolated in their view point. So, for example, you instead believe a gay show is made because everyone is on board with it rather than some media mogul deciding you should be on board with it.
2 likesI regularly dislike videos from creators I enjoy, and I've done it to you. Mostly because FunHaus said dislikes ironically up their engagement; but also one dislike in my mind hopefully means a minor spike from like-minded individuals that a creator notices and realizes something was disliked but not controversial. On the other hand, Game Grumps said they weren't looking at comments/likes anymore around the time they kept reusing some irritating jokes and when I found myself disliking nearly every video without a change I just unsubscribed. Considering how easy it is to get 90%+ likes, you don't even need a thick skin like you do for comments, and legitimate criticism gets buried quickly. I "like" that you noticed a 90% like ratio is fine but means something was off within the video, meaning only people who actually watched are enough to dislike beyond the usual instant dislikes of 2-3%. It means reflect on the video or scroll through the comments, ignoring and finding it persists is going to lead to some lost subscribers eventually, like every vinetuber that's suddenly losing subs after multiples videos about how they don't listen to criticism.
0 likeswithout a ranking system, everyone would just go fucking bonkers. Both the like and dislike feature, help people vocalize their thoughts in a simple compact way, instead of going bananas on a post.
1 likeI usually figure the lowest common denominator for likes/dislikes
1 likeLike this video (currently) has 8/1 like/dislike ratio, which is kinda bad. Most music videos with 1+ Mil views average a 25/1, and very well received videos have 100/1.
At least to my brain this is an easier way to look at it
This video is very entertaining. Thank you Emperor
2 likesDisliking comments seems to do completely nothing.
0 likesI think it's reasonable to at least remove the dislike option for the comments since YouTube defenetly won't make those dislikes visible.
On the other hand, removing dislikes from one part of the platform can lead to removal of all dislikes, which will make it harder to judge the legitimacy of a video's popularity.
There's also the Kudo's system on the website Dumpert. It functions similarly to Reddit's upvote system, but it doesn't negatively effect it's presence in the algorithm, because there is none
0 likesBy his own metric, this video is controversial.
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Controversial opinion after watching this video:
1 likeI think we should go back to the star scale. There’s a number of videos where I have had a mixed opinion on them, and a like or dislike didn’t really allow me to properly express that.
So I have been having this ongoing discussion about freedom of speech with a very politically ambitious friend of mine who remains convinced that it should be restricted to essentially exclude what we might refer to as "ideas that are virtually universally understood as bad" simply because the expression of these views by a tiny minority is still, somehow, incentivizing people to carry out the tenets of said ideas. He has yet to give me a satisfying answer as to where he thinks that tiny of fraction of unhinged individuals will go, and how they will be rendered harmless, by simply outlawing their wrong thoughts.
0 likesShutting up a critic doesn't cancel out their criticism. Whatever is wrong with what you did will remain wrong. Voting Trump out of office isn't going to make 45% of Americans that support him go away. A lie will remain a lie.
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i get his point but nobothy knows if they are right even after being proved wrong
0 likesThe minute you ban the ability to voice displeasure about your work is the minute you stop improving.
2 likesI feel like you kept taking about Dan Olson a little much but I really liked you bringing up the other social media platforms to explain that people still want to express dislikes. Really proves that at least Youtube needs dislikes and probably any other social media platform.
0 likes“They’re intentionally leaving bad reviews”
0 likesHuh, I wonder why they would do that?
I wholeheartedly agree, dislikes are a way for people to tell the content creator to what works and what doesn't. Removing them just makes them hate you more, and would likely make you lose subs, rather than just getting an unpopular video
0 likesI remember one up and coming youtuber that made videos about movies and tv shows. One day they posted a video begging to not vote for Trump. A nearly 30 minute rant where the comment section and the likes/dislikes were disabled. If you are that scared why even make the video?
0 likesThey stopped making videos like a month later.
Thanks for the awesome video. I watched a Mr.Beast video where he shows disliking can actually increase visibility of your video. It was a small experiment but it was interesting.
0 likesThe irony is that clicking like or dislike is still engagement to the algorithm and is treated the same way regardless of what you pick.
1 likeVideos with higher engagement will get pushed over things that don't have engagement.
Also this comment will get buried because I don't have any subs and if someone you are subbed to comments on this video it will rate higher then my comment and get shown first. Everything gets filtered by engagement.
Well weighed and filtered.
Watching hole ad, watching hole video, liking near the end of the video over liking at the start, commenting at the end of the video. Some things weigh higher like watching hole ad vs hole video but they all add up to give a score that is balanced between other content you have watched. the more content you engage in the more of the same content with the same score will be recommended to you. It wayy more complicated then that but you get the point. this is a dead comment.
I feel like since YouTube Rewind 2018, YouTube has just been racing to see how many stupid features they could add as fast as possible
3 likesThis video had a lot of points that were just salt, if it wasn't by that it would be a 10/10 video
0 likesAm i the only person who watches a video before checking the ratings so i can make my own decision on wether or not i think it's good or bad?
0 likesMan I can barely remember when the dislike number for comments was actually visible as opposed to the near completely useless feature it is now
0 likesWho doesn’t want dislike mobs?
2 likesI enjoy looking at the dislikes on YouTube rewind 2018.
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thats a must
0 likesthe thing is that in a perfect world the star system would still be there but sadly trolls and haters are still a thing.
0 likesAs someone unfamiliar with your channel, I am having trouble telling if you are supporting a political party, or using that ironically for comedic purpose
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watch his trump meme video lol. But yeah he's pretty much just being sarcastic most of the time.
0 likesI like the overall message of this video.
0 likesBut as my sincere and unfiltered criticism, I want to say that I didn't appreciate this part of the video which was obnoxiously loud at 22:15, hence I shall dispense a dislike.
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Not exactly a defense, but the guy is a former YTP. So expect some earrapes on his videos (the exceptions of course are his more documentary videos, i.e never ever or YouTube geography)
0 likesI love Folding Ideas but you're really calling him out and you're not wrong.
0 likesI find it funny how this video is actually in 89-80% tier with 11.5% dislikes
1 likeI like how the dan olson example video is a movie review. A critic of a piece of entertainment. Wouldn't it be crazy if you weren't able to critic something?
0 likesfeel like i should dislike this video just to spite youtube
1 likeAnd there's me, who still misses the old 0-5 star ratings.
0 likesI feel like a lot of the dislikes here are ironic
1 likeaccording to the tier list this video falls in the controversial tier
1 likeYou should be able to chose between of some words for some videos like a Gaming video gets good and bad while the politics get agree and disagree
0 likesWhen that Bloons music kicks in
3 likesWhy not just, have people watch the videos for X amount of minutes and THEN they can dislike or like, This setting can be used by youtubers and change the amount of time in Youtube Studio, atleast then they can set it for the entire length of a video or 10 minutes (for that sweet ad rev) this is just one idea that might work if implemented work
0 likesSome video that I watched had ratings off, and when people brought it up in the comments, the person was like "hurr durr you have to why you dislike it instead of just disliking it." Which I thought was confusing. Aren't dislikes made in tandem with talking about what was wrong?
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Nope, some people just dislike and that's all.
0 likes7:09 this dude actually but a bloons td track as back ground music. Nice!
12 likesIf you are so afraid of dislike mobs, you shouldn't publish your work. Also if the algorithm don't suggests your video if it is disliked, there is a simple solution: change the algorithm to suggest the video to people with opposite tastes from the people who disliked
0 likesi don't dislike a lot of videos, - um, sorry, sometimes i forget to like 'em too- but when someone shuts down their comment section it's my policy to dislike them. i don't know why anyone care about these so-called dislike mobs. you have to click something before you can dislike it. they still get the clicks. those probably matter more
0 likesI love it when Emp doesn't say anything about Despacito....haha
0 likesThe more fame and larger their tower of money is...the more desperate they'll become to keep it up, even harming people in the process.
0 likesI assume YouTube is still recovering from the Rewind incident.
0 likesAm I like only person who doesn’t look at the like to dislike Ratio when I click on a video I mean I believe it’s very important to have the dislike button but I never really use either of them
1 likeoh god I forgot about Gamers Rise Up I miss when that sub was a massive joke filled with with "satire" but now.... its gone
0 likesI just realised that the 7k people who disliked this video are people that say dislikes should be removed.
0 likesHmm...
YouTube: We might remove dislikes.
0 likesMe: Is it because of that 2018 rewind..?
YouTube: No..
no way you started the youtube rewind dislike mob what a legend
0 likesThat’s wierd, SilokHawk is in the second bottom tier of like-dislike ratio but his videos are great
0 likesDidn't even have to check the paste bin to recognize that sweet sweet Balloon tower defense sound track, great choice of music
0 likesThe Gran Turismo 4 music gives the video such an amazing atmosphere
0 likesAnother way they've already implemented this is in the comments. You can't tell how much people hate a comment, only the people who do.
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although, if the replies have more likes than the original comment, that's a pretty good way of determining how much people hate it. although i would prefer a way to dislike comments without having to reply.
3 likesIve always loved dislikes sir💪
0 likesAll of this video’s dislikes are ironic
1 likeI love the uses of the simpsons hit and run song at 10:25
0 likeswhy did i dislike this i completely agree lol
1 likeSo basically all the "perfectly balanced as all things should be" videos have fucked up big time
0 likes7:08 oh god that background music brings me back to when I was in 5th grade placing monkey towers on my tablet.
Hm, if only there was a system where you could rate things on a scale?
0 likesThank god this never happened.
0 likesThey just want to remove the dislike button because they saw the dislikes on youtube rewind 2018 as well as 2019
0 likes6:09 Hilariously true
0 likes6:32 and the lowest rating is YouTube rewind
0 likesIronic enough this vid had 8.1k dislikes
0 likesWell on mobile likes and dislikes are now both white and less noticeable, we get closer and closer to the YouTube apocalypse
2 likesWhich Emp am I supposed to be looking at on that news screen? I see a few sitting behind the desk, one of them holding "teh news". But the Emp mic on the desk is pointed at the Emp in the middle behind the desk. Help.
0 likesI like that he put balloon tower defense music in the video
1 likeBTD music in the background makes me go yes
4 likesFor the people who didn't like it they could not say so unless the had a dislike button
0 likesI turned my phone around and accidentally disliked the video. That might say something about analytics.
0 likesYou sound like a reactionary. Disliked : ) although I don't care if we have dislikes or not I think dan olsen is right that there is a lot of cyber bullying that happens due to dislikes. But tbh that's not really limited to the like/dislike system
0 likesI remember when ifunny got rid on dislikes lol.
1 likethis video is apparently pretty controversial
0 likesFun fact: the candidate that brazilian girl told women to vote against, won, and its been the best president we had in like ever.
6 likesCome on we all know why they want to remove it rewind
0 likesHave you noticed how almost every video has a similar like/dislike ratio?
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"Dislike"
0 likesGreat squidbillies reference lol
0 likesThis video has 87.2 % likes
1 likeOn Facebook, there is no dislike button, but you can use the laugh or angry reacc instead. You're not only telling OP that the post sucks, you're telling OP WHY it sucks, in a button press - not a bad system
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I disagree, it's more more prone to misinterpretation. Say I react with a laughing emoji to a serious post. Does that mean I find it funny that someone is that dumb? Does it mean that I find the serious topic comical? Does that mean that I think it's funny coming from them?
0 likesNow let's say someone made a different, equally as serious post and I reacted with an angry emoji. Does that mean I'm angry that this happened, that I'm angry at misinformation in the post, that I'm angry at the person who posted it for one reason or another?
It's trying to be a mix of a comment system and a like system and fails miserably at both, because it fails to say anything actually meaningful or significant about the post. This could be fixed by, say, adding in a dislike emoji as well and letting people react with multiple emojis, as to better clarify what the general reaction is.
Bruh wish we could make a real Soviet Union not another dictatorship
0 likesNice like to dislike ratio EmpLemon
0 likesI still have a dislike on this video because of the original title lol
0 likesI’m gonna dislike this video cuz I like it
0 likesLike the video? Hell yeah. Say hello, dislike button!
0 likesDan Olson enabled ratings on his videos again...
0 likesso far this video is in the controversial tier
0 likesNow this deserves a like
0 likeshavent watched the vid just saw the title and thought it would be funny to dislike it
0 likesMan I love btd music so much
0 likesThat's such a cool thumbnail
0 likesLets go! 100% rating for most of my videos
0 likesIs that Bloons TD background music?
2 likesi came back and only have one problem with the video now, why did he not take out dan olsen's name and @? cause it might get people to get onto his twitter account and harass him, and people probably did
0 likesAnyone that disliked this caused a paradox
0 likesThe middle of your video gave me a fever dream while I was awake.
0 likesWhat about obliging those who dislike to write a comment as well? Put a 5-10 word minimum so that it's not just "Stupid." and let the creator know what kind of people are disliking their video and for what reason. Is it just a bad recommendation or an actual critique, something worth thinking over or not. Seems like a better solution to "unreasonable dislikes" than removing them entirely. Maybe do the same for likes to kinda make it fair (tho I don't see a problem with likes currently).
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Mmmmm no?
1 likeMost people don't have the will and the time to express their opinions and that's why likes and dislikes exist, it takes a second to like a video but it takes a couple of minutes to express your opinion through words on a comment, if you force people to do something most people won't even bother to think in doing it, this video has +630k and +5.9k comments, if something like that is mandatory this video would have probably just one thousand comments and likes/dislikes or even less, that's less people that will share their opinions = less people that watch the video because they can't express their opinions instantly = less people viewing videos on YouTube and less money for Google
youtube is salty from rewind
0 likesCome back a year later and sure enough, the like bar no longer even blue and gray, they've made another bs change to black and white :/
0 likesI’m not hating but can you use different backgrounds? They are really full of neon colors and watching it hurts my eyes
1 likeI don’t want to watch it because it’s to blaring and takes away the attention from the text to the background.
I had to close my eyes threw out the video
Edit: it got so mad it’s making me laugh by the abnormal colors and the huge usage of it
I disliked this video cause the title told me to.
0 likesremove liking completely and let some algorithm do the job.
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The algorithm does it's job independently of likes and dislikes. Did you even watch the video?
0 likesI wish you could see the dislikes on comments
1 likeAs a small content creator that doesn’t get a lot of likes or dislikes, does the tier list have the same value or should it be rebalanced for a smaller audience? (Sorry if this is confusing)
0 likesi feel like ur videos could be so much shorter
0 likesAnd if it’s split it’s neutral response
0 likesI disliked the video to prove I like dislikes
0 likesI don’t see why catering to your niche is a bad thing. If you’re not trying to do YouTube as a career, what’s the harm in sticking to content you like making? Sure, you won’t get as many viewers/subscribers, but choosing to cater to an ever-changing, ever-expanding audience is much more difficult than creating content you enjoy and attracting the viewers that enjoy watching such content.
0 likeswait its emp lemon not e-m-p lemon?
0 likesPreach!
0 likesdislike mobs should be allowed because everbody dislikes the vid
1 likeI disliked this video because I agree with the core message. Like veganism (hint hint)
0 likesYo E,
2 likesI subscribed but I also hit the dislike. Why? Because of that 4chan example. Such atrocities man was not meant to whitness.
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*witnessed.
0 likesoohhh that explains the 8k dislikes
0 likesTheir saying that comments are comparable to like/dislike? I mean I guess you could stretch it that way but at the end of the day looking at two numbers vs reading 100 comments it’s a big time difference
0 likesBalloons td music slaps doe
0 likes#TankTheRewind
0 likesAll the dislikes are from hypocrites
0 likesI agree
0 likesBring back star rating
0 likesGuess this video is controversial...
0 likesIt’s from
0 likes6 second unskippable or 12 second skip after 6
Then
12 second skip or skip after 12
To
TWO UNSKIPPABLE 15 SECOND ADS
i want my dislike button!
1 likelol... people who dislike this video
0 likeswants to remove dislike
Atleast Facebook has a Angry Button above the like button. Than TWITTER.
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THE 😠 IS BETTER
0 likesAnd now comment and posts have dislikes that literally don't matter. You can't even see how many there are!
1 likeI like the dislike button I've used it on my own videos
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Lol same.
0 likespfff, dislike button shouldnt stay. disliked
1 likeInteresting video
0 likesThis is a cesspool down here? Explains the smell.
0 likesMust.... Go.... Find videos... To dislike now....
0 likesNew tier. Jake Paul tier. 0 likes . Oh! Bonus points for the btd songs.
0 likesAh crap, it’s 2020 now, and uhhhh . . .
0 likesPeople who dislike dislikes will dislike the video
0 likesIt's funny because i pissed off the sonic community and so they dislike bomb my videos thinking that will do anyrhing
1 likeAll the dislikes on this vidio are YouTube and its bots
0 likesthis video is at 89% oof
0 likesIve been noticing that you play bloons music in your vids do you play the games?
0 likesHow Asian parents view grade: 6:38
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haha
0 likes20-30 youtube rewind
0 likesi mean heck the dislikes for comments are already useless. the just do nothing.
0 likesand it's not like on reddit where one downvote decreases the number of upvotes by one either, dislikes for comments just do nothing.
me looks at the comments section, hmmmmmm no dislikes
0 likesi unironically prefer 4chan to reddit. is that a problem?
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no, not at all
0 likes@Pigrulerperson kind of, but just for the lolz. i mainly lurk, so i can't say i am actively part of their community.
1 likeAnd now they are both grey... oh no
1 likeWhat's the song that's playing around 24:44? The pastebin the music list is dead.
0 likes19:30 OH GOD
0 likesright now, dislikes on comments already do nothing, they dont count it as a number and it doesn't do a upvote downvote esc thing by counting as -1 either. Why is it even there?
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To give the illusion of choice and agency. It's like the door closing button in an elevator.
0 likesGood video
0 likesbut there's no S O U P!
Every time it seems your video is over it’s not, it’s like feminist, or racism
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What does that even mean?
0 likes7.9+ people agree why we should keep the dislike button
0 likesi left a dislike for you ♡
0 likesOh the "dislike" irony. ha ha ha - people are funny.
0 likesif you disliked this video, you are unknowingly agreeing, since you just did what all points of his video said
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why are you assuming its unknowingly
0 likesI just used my dislike:)
0 likesLiterally why is the dislike button even in the comments if u can’t even see them
1 likeI disliked while I still can
0 likesDamn that BTD music you snuck in there was a good dose of nostalgia
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I KNOW RIGHT
0 likesDislikes
2 likesDis I Like
This I Like
On my phone YouTube is up to date but the dislike is still red
0 likes4:04 they can avoid all these arguments by making the like to dislike ratio invisible until you actually press one of them. I mean I wouldn't mind that. it'd be interesting if everyone watched youtube videos in an unbiased approach.
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Bit late, but what if you're looking up a bunch of tutorials and sifting through what's worth your time, you'd like to know what videos are worth watching and whether you should look at the comments to see why the video is disliked. Maybe it's a lack of knowledge or bad audio, maybe even a non-sequitor of a video. Who knows if the comments become disabled on a bad video? The ratings would be the only thing you'd have as reference at that point.
0 likesi recognize that music 5:05
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BTD5 BABY
1 like@Toymangamer121 KNACK 3 BAYYYYYBEEEEEE!
1 likeI disliked for the cause
1 likeYou should’ve disabled rating in this video for the meme
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Nah how else will he get a <%50 ratio on this video?
1 likeUsually most ratings disablers do so because they've been attacked and harrashed by a large mob and don't want any more damage. Its rather easy for emp lemon to stand from his place and say how mass hate and dislike is just normal, what he hasn't seen is the harashment upfront. One example is what 4-chan/right wing gamers did to Anita Sarkeesian, and its more that just people spamming "kys", there were several people who made bombing and shooting threats at venues she was planning to talk at and etc, one person threatened to start a shooting at their school if Anita Sarkeesian were to talk somewhere. All I want to say is that its not really nice of sympthatic to mock comments or ratings disablers as they may just be wanting to stop themselves from complete stress. Afterall you don't know what its like to have the whole internet after you.
3 likes@The Spanish Inquisition but do you really think it was just. I mean everyone complains about how much she wanted to "censor" everything yet the same people who said that went out of their way to censor her and any platform/public speaking she had. I don't think its right for someone to say something on the internet only to be met with such harashment. No harashment is ever justified.
1 likeAhem, rewind
0 likesThis video should have 100% dislikes
0 likesKnee guard
0 likesDislike mobs are not rlly a good argument because I always judge a video by the comments and amount of likes. Also, I always consider the YouTubers with more than 1k dislikes a more popular one
3 likesDislike should return to the comments section
0 likeswhy you should dislike disliking dislikes
0 likesHoo you should see the marvel comics videos
0 likesDespacito deserves better than this
0 likesLiked.
0 likesthe true useless thing is the dislike comments button
0 likesI don't dislike dislikes, I personally just find it sad to see dislikes on videos that really shouldn't be that controversial, or videos which are silly to complain about.
10 likesBe honest, you only think the Gillette ad is bad because someone told you that it was gonna destroy masculinity and bring in an age of far left totalitarian SJW rule or something like that.
It also sucks when you see loads of dislikes on flat earth debunk videos, though I do get a chuckle when sequels (if it's a video series) have way less dislikes because the mob got tired.
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there should be a 50/50 option, where you dont rlly like the vid, but dont hate it either
0 likes“We shouldn’t silence our enemies” tell that to alex jones YouTube..
8 likesshould just delete the disliking of comments
0 likesthis is sooo bad I am liking
0 likes00:39 how dare u disrespect my ideology like that
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that was a mistake of emplemon
1 likepase daddy kim ÒwÓ
2 likes69 likes
1 likeThat's in China.
1 likeI agree with this video but still disliking for the meme
7 likes"Controversial Tier"
10 likesdamn, actually nice tiers.
YouTube: Creates most disliked video ever
5 likesAlso YouTube: Removes dislike button
So the comment section doesn't exist
1 likeIf dislikes were gone Logan would have gotten away with his unspeakable act
4 likesomg!!!!!
0 likesIf all goes wrong someone else will make a video platform to actually compete with YouTube
0 likesHey look dislikes!
0 likesI disliked this video to show I agree with you.
6 likesEven the YouTube insider guy didn’t like the idea😂
1 likewelp
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you
0 likes@TurretBot Yes. Me
0 likesHello mr nutshino=
0 likeswell well well
2 likesWanted to dislike
0 likes17:27 WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT… This guy is saying it’s only bad in concept, and not the execution? Yknow, the part that actually matters?!?! He is ADMITTING HIMSELF that it’s not a bad thing in practice but he still doesn’t want it because he doesn’t like the way it sounds. Then he proceeds to describe a circlejerk and says that should be the alternative. My God… I can’t even describe how mind numbingly stupid this is.
1 likeWelp.
0 likesㅤㅤㅤㅤ
0 likesNow theres no dislike bar at all
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Now theres no dislike at all
0 likesoh nooooo
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
5 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
comment dislikes are still disabled
0 likesoh no
1 likeDisliked out of support
1 likebring back star rating. fuck likes and dislikes.
2 likesWhy did YouTube get rid of this dislike button
0 likesCool..
0 likes-new video
7 likes-different than the past year and a half's content
FRYING DORY 2 CONFIRMED BOYS
GG
2 likes